Mueller Under Scrutiny; Comey's Latest Stunning Admission; Judge Drops Bombshell In Flynn Case; It Is Now Coming To Light That Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn Has Been Set Up By Former FBI Director James Comey And His Buddies At The Bureau; The Left-Wing Media React To An Interview With First Lady Melania Trump, Saying She Is Whining For Being Criticized By The Media; President Trump Called On The Media Hypocrisy Over At MSNBC Where Its Anchor, Mika Brzezinski Insulted Secretary Of State Mike Pompeo And Heard Crickets From Democrats On That Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST December 13, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7252 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Rachel Campos-Duffy Guests: John Solomon, Jim Jordan, Sharyl Attkisson, Joe Concha Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Great show as always. Welcome to HANNITY. What we're about to tell l you is almost beyond comprehension as it relates to living in this country, because using deception, underhanded tactics, flat out lies, we now know high-ranking officials inside of your FBI targeted an American military hero, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, tried to destroy his life, all because he was connected to Donald Trump. Now, we have tape tonight, James Comey bragging about how he got away with it all on camera. We'll play it for you. Plus, I've got to break down the latest bombshell in the Lieutenant General Flynn sentencing. A judge is now demanding answers over some extraordinarily sketchy evidence for Robert Mueller's office. We also have new evidence of Hillary Clinton's bought and paid for dossier. And the Clinton Foundation, we can report tonight, is being investigated by the FBI. Tonight, we'll update you on the battle over the border wall and funding. Why a government shutdown is not something you have to fear. Stay tuned, part two also of my one-on-one interview with the First Lady Melania Trump just minutes away. We start with a really important, in many ways, sad, breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. So, I'm going to go through this slowly. What I'm going to reveal to you, doesn't matter where you stand in the political spectrum. It should shock every American to their core. Let's start at the beginning. On January 24th, 2017, that's the first week of Donald Trump's presidency. Then- deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe called then national security adviser Michael Flynn to discuss some upcoming training. The conversation quickly turned into a casual request from McCabe to Flynn that he speak with FBI agents over -- about his overseas communications, which we now know were surveilled by federal officials. Remember, Flynn was the incoming national security advisor. It would not be unusual for him to have discussions with foreign leaders and soon-to-be counterparts. What is unusual is this. We know Flynn's surveillance, the unmasking, the lack of minimization of his name, and the leaking of raw intelligence by the outgoing administration, the Obama administration, is beyond rare, likely elicited in terms of its actions, in other words, a crime. But having done nothing wrong himself, Flynn agreed to capping the nothing wrong himself, he agreed to the meeting the various time day at the White House. He also agreed not to have any attorneys present per Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director's request. McCabe literally told General Flynn, a lawyer was not necessary. McCabe who would soon be fired himself for lying told him this. Now, during the meeting, Flynn was casually questioned by two FBI agents, including, there he is, Peter Strzok, you know, the guy that loathed Donald Trump, the man that said Hillary Clinton should win 100 million to zero, the man with the insurance policy and the media leak strategy against the new president should he happen to win, the guy that was ultimately fired because of extreme anti-Trumped bias. Well, according to the FBI's report of the meeting, that's known as a 302, where they discussed the meeting with someone they talk to. It's called the 302. Agents did not come on purpose, warned General Flynn about any potential crimes. And they didn't ask him to explain or clarify any inconsistencies in his answers, and because they wanted him to be, quote, relaxed. This is, by its very definition, a perjury trap. You don't tell somebody you really are investigating, let's put them in a relaxed position, let them talk to us and then, by the way, you don't need a lawyer. Now, as we speak, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn's life, it has been on hold for a long time. He's awaiting sentencing for allegedly lying to investigators during that meeting. A meeting so unusual that even fired FBI Director James Comey himself has now admitted was not standard operating procedure. And he actually -- this is the sickest part of it -- bragged that he ordered it anyway because he thought he could get away with it. This is what we have been telling you. Abuse of power, corruption, not rank and file FBI, the highest levels of the FBI and the DOJ, it shows you this, week one of the Trump administration, the fix was in from day one. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You look at this White House now, it's hard to imagine two FBI agents ending up in the room. How did that happen? JAMES COMEY, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR: I sent them. Something I probably wouldn't have done or may be gotten away with in a more organized investigation, more organized administration, and the George W. Bush of administration, for example, or the Obama administration. The protocol, two men that all of us have increased appreciation for over the last two years. (APPLAUSE) In both of those administrations, there was process. And so, if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself, to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House counsel and there'd be discussions and approvals and who would be there. And I thought, it's early enough, let's just send a couple guys over. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I wouldn't have tried, I wouldn't have gotten away with this in a prior administration. Really? This is week one of the Trump presidency. Isn't the name of Jim Comey's book "A Higher Loyalty"? Wouldn't that be to the United States Constitution, the rule of law, equal justice under the law? Does not sound like a virtuous public servant to you, or someone trying to trap Lieutenant General Michael Flynn from day one? This is how these corrupt officials, again, not rank and file, treated a duly elected president, his first week in office. A 33-year three star veteran hero, five years in combat. And here we have James Comey, fired for mishandling the Clinton investigation, he, too, wanted Hillary to win. Andrew McCabe, he set up the meeting on the phone and said, you don't need a lawyer, fired by the FBI for lying. One of the agents, meeting with Flynn, Peter Strzok, of course, know, fired for his rampant anti-Trump bias. In other words, the three main people initially involved in the Flynn have been fired. Think about that. One day after learning about the shady interrogation tactics from the FBI -- well, there is a judge, U.S. district judge named Emmet Sullivan. He has now ordered to the special counsel to turn over all of the governments documents related to this questioning of General Flynn, by the way, by tomorrow, a rare move from a federal judge, which brings us to a shocking new development. "The Federalist" pointed out something brilliant, what could be in my mind a major bombshell inside the Flynn sentencing memo. They pointed out footnote 23. Footnote 23 references the 302 memo of August 22nd, 2017. Flynn's interview was in January 24th, four days into the presidency. Flynn's interview happened way back when. Now, here's the problem. Flynn's interview with the FBI on January 24th, 2017, the 302s written seven months later? A text message messages for Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, they seem to reference Flynn's interview, his 302 being completed on February 14th. And meanwhile, James Comey, he references reading this 302 before he was fired in May. So the question remains, why was a new 302 drafted in August by the special counsel? What information had changed? Can it be trusted? Was there an earlier 302 memo? Where there were revisions in the memo? And is there a smoking gun here? Either way, we deserve answers. Now, tomorrow, by 3:00 p.m., U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan could have the answers to all of these questions. That is how long he has given to turn over these documents related to the questioning of Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. This is the same judge who dismissed the corruption conviction, eight convictions, of Republican Senator Ted Stevens after discovering rampant misconduct from federal prosecutors in that case, including what he called a blatant attempt to withhold exculpatory evidence. Now, we have been pointing out, it's important to know, the lead prosecutor in the special counsel investigation, Mueller's pit bull, Andrew Weissmann. We talked a lot about him, and Jeannie Rhee, who worked for the Clinton Foundation. But Weissmann in particular, he's a pit bull, has quite a track record with exculpatory evidence. In the case of Andersen Accounting, they overturned Weissmann's prosecution 9-0, does not happen that often. In the case of four Merrill Lynch executives who went to jail for a year, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals overturned those convictions, whole year of their life gone, after Weissmann was rebuked for what? Withholding exculpatory evidence. Why would Mueller hire that guy? Now, tonight, whatever happens in the case of Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, the damage is done. Legal bills have caused this man his home, wrecked his finances, destroyed his impeccable reputation, 33 years in the military, five years of combat duty, tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. Here's our question tonight. Is this how we are going to treat American servicemen and women, war heroes? Because if it is, nobody is safe. This is not how a fair justice system is supposed to operate in a constitutional republic. Instead -- this is the sad part to me -- everything we have been telling you about, for nearly two years, we are facing a two tiered justice system where anybody apparently associated with Trump is going to be targeted. Democrats, they seem to always get off scot-free. That, of course, includes Hillary Clinton. But breaking today, we learn to some new information about her bought and paid for dirty dossier. You know the law firm that hired Christopher Steele -- well, the law firm actually funneled money to the Fusion GPS, the oppo research group, to put the seedy document together. That was Perkins Coie. Well, they considered using -- he considered using, Christopher Steele, the findings to challenge a 2016 election results in court. That is why he was doing it, which makes yet another way Hillary Clinton was planning to use the dirty dossier to rig the election after the election should she lose. And, of course, this was all done with her money funneled through the law firm as a legal expense, not a political expense. Sounds like campaign finance issues. A lot of people in the media are interested in that topic, but not with Hillary. Yet no investigation into that campaign finance violation. The question we all have to ask ourselves is why. Now, it should be obvious. Her last name is not Trump. She is not anyone who supports Trump. So, she has a whole different justice system, one that Trump supporters don't have. We'll have a lot more in this later. But also, tonight, once again, Democrats continuing to play politics with our nation security. President Trump is standing strong, calling out the far left border hypocrisy. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The fact is, they have always supported fences and walls and partitions, but you know what? They only don't want to do it because of me. We need to have the wall. We need border security. Whatever it takes to get border security, I will do it. We've done a really fantastic job with what we have. We can do it almost perfect job if we have the wall and proper border security, and that is what we're going to do for the American people. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: It's really stunning. Democrats say they want border security, sounded like Donald Trump in the Obama years, when it comes to making it happen, they stone wall, they deflect, they distract, they reveal their true open borders agenda. Now, despite overwhelming evidence that walls actually work. Just this week, the Department of Homeland Security released new details on the progress that we have made since President Trump got to office on the border barriers in California, Texas, explaining that as of November 21st, 2018, Customs and Border Protection have constructed more than 31 of the 30 miles that were authorized by Congress. Last year, the remaining miles scheduled for completion soon, adding that, quote, the bottom line walls work. When it comes to stopping drugs, illegal aliens to cross our borders, border walls are proving extremely effective. Take a look at the before-and-after photos from the DHS of the El Centro border in, well, you can see, Southern California. And while those are encouraging results, there's a lot more to do, which is why the president is forging ahead with his demand for $5 billion to fully secure our country's national security issues, make people safe on both sides of the border. We learned about the horrible tragedy tonight, a 7-year-old girl from Guatemala died of dehydration and shock after crossing into the U.S. illegally with her father and the remote New Mexico desert. It's like I have been saying over and over again. A wall can prevent these types of heartbreaking stories once people know they can't get in. They are not going to come. It's a treacherous journey. Dangerous. They ran out of food and water apparently four days before she crossed into this country, the tragedy that can be avoided. It's also an issue of national security. We are also learning a suspected terrorist is the one leading the group of Central American migrants demanding 50 grand in reparations from the U.S., each, to return home. His name is Alfonso Guerrero Ulloa, expected of the 1987 bombing in Honduras that wounded six American soldiers. And, of course, as I have said many times, look, most people I'm sure come here because they want more opportunity for themselves and their family, but the wall with a big door is the way to do it, we'll do it legally for everybody. Now, they want a better life. But even if illegal immigrants with the best of intentions, comes at a major cost to you, the taxpayer. Look at this recent study, for each illegal immigrant that does successfully cross the border, it costs you, the American people, 70 grand per year. The fact is, we must have the ability to, A, vet anyone that comes into our country for our security, and now more than ever, we need a border wall. Common sense strategy actually works. The safety and security of the American people should always be a top priority for any U.S. president. Don't let the media, by the way, scare you about a government shutdown. Most of the government stays open. They don't shutdown, including health, safety, and the postal service will stay open and yes, grandma and grandpa will get their Social Security checks. And I will tell you one other thing. I will support anyone that is furloughed. They should get their full back pay. They should not be victims of what is a serious, important battle over our national security. This holiday season, so many servicemen and women away from their families, protecting our freedoms every day, keeping us safe -- remember, First Lady Melania Trump took some time to visit those soldiers. I was lucky enough to catch up with her aboard the USS George H.W. Bush. We'll give you a preview of part two of that interview. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Even your young son has been brought into this at times. That doesn't -- that wouldn't make me angry. Does that make you angry? MELANIA TRUMP, U.S. FIRST LADY: It does make me angry because children should be off limits. And I protect him and I want to give him a normal life as possible. This is not a normal life, but a life to protect them, and giving him the child he deserves. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And that's what we can all agree with. We'll have part two moments away. But, first, joining us now with reaction to all the latest, Lieutenant General Flynn news is "The Hill's" John Solomon, FOX News contributor Sara Carter, FOX News legal analyst, number one bestselling author of "The Russian Hoax," Gregg Jarrett. Gregg, let me start with you. I think "The Federalist" did a pretty good job because those text messages of Strzok and Page kind of refer to a different 302. I hear about a different 302 that Comey told Trey Gowdy that he likely read. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Seven-month gap between the interview and the date on the 302? Normally, there are three dates on 302, the date of the interview, date of the draft of the 302, date of the supervisor's signature. No more than three oh four weeks should there be a gap. Seven months, it suggests, that exculpatory evidence was redacted or excluded. In other words, they falsified information and concealed other information. And if you doctor or phony up a 302 and presented to a court, I mean, that's a violation of the due process of Michael Flynn. It's also arguably obstruction of justice. It looks like Judge Sullivan, who initially ordered ten months ago to hand over this stuff, is now ordering them again, give me those 302s by 3:00 tomorrow. This is on the eve of the sentencing. If he finds that they falsified evidence, he can throw out the guilty plea of Flynn and set him free. HANNITY: Why do I think we're headed in that direction? Sara, you know, the interesting thing about this judge, Judge Sullivan, he was so angry at the abuse of power back then in the Ted Stevens case, he overturned that case. Ted Stevens' career was ruined by that point, but putting that aside, he ordered a special investigation into the investigators. He was so pissed off. You know, a 14-minute rant, as described by "The New York Times", as brutalizing the people that prosecuted Ted Stevens. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, absolutely, Sean. And Ted Stevens is a perfect example of why Judge Sullivan now is sitting at overseeing the Flynn case is so important. You know, one of the things that Gregg s said is really important is that gap, the timeline, the seven months, it shouldn't be three or four weeks. That is only in extenuating circumstances when an FBI agent is out of the field, maybe interviewing someone any region where they can't have access to a computer. In a case such as this, with such high-profile, I spoke to multiple -- I don't want to say who -- but multiple former senior FBI officials that said it has to be within five days. Within five days per recollection. That way, they can go back to their notes, they have a full recall of what happened during that interview. So, what Judge Sullivan needs to ask for is the workflow chart. That workflow chart will show everything. Not just the 302s but the workflow chart, because that will show who approved it, who it was sent to, and the data that the notes were put into the system, into the FBI system. Once they have that, I think they'll have the answers. HANNITY: And, John, what it shows more than anything, this was week one. McCabe's actions, Strzok's actions, Comey's actions. Comey's admission on that tape, oh, we wouldn't do this in the Obama administration, or the Bush administration. This is week one of the Trump administration. It shows me that it was set up by the get-go, day one. JOHN SOLOMON, THE HILL: I've been lucky to interview most FBI directors and former FBI director's. I have never in my life heard an FBI director talk the way that Director Comey did on Sunday night. It's not the language that FBI and law enforcement use. But let me say something else tonight about Michael Flynn. In May of 2017, there was a document identified to a small number of people in the United States government, it's the possession of the Defense Intelligence Agency. For 18 months, there has been an effort to resist declassifying that document. I know that document contains extraordinary exculpatory information about General Flynn. I don't believe the president has been told about the existence of this document. One lawmaker discovered it but he was thwarted by the Defense Intelligence Agency, and his ability disclose it. I think we all should ask for that declassification. Get that out. It may enlighten the judge. It will certainly enlighten the American public. HANNITY: I think a 33-year vet deserves that. All right. We've got to move on to some other issues. We can confirm tonight, Sara Carter, you have an article, financial experts testify, FBI is currently investigating the Clinton Foundation. How come we don't ever hear of any of these things? What's going on? CARTER: That's right. Well, you know, Sean, this is constant, right? It's a constant battle. John Solomon, John originally wrote this story about these whistle-blowers. They testified today on the Hill to Chairman Mark Meadows and, you know, his House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, that they were questioned by the FBI, they turned over the information to the FBI. And under some pretty brutal questioning, one of the investigators, a financial expert -- by the way, they were very straightforward with the fact that they paid for their own investigation into this. They did this with other charitable foundations in order to seek the truth and, yes, to make money because once they expose this and give it to the IRS, the IRS does pay them for their investigations. So, they basically admitted that the FBI is actually investigating the Clinton Foundation. HANNITY: It's huge. CARTER: And it's been ongoing. It's huge. HANNITY: John, you got a mention today. SOLOMON: Yes, I like to ignore silliness. I will tell you what happens sometimes. Some people issued a statement suggesting I was an agent of Russia. As I came here tonight, Sean -- HANNITY: By the way, everyone is an agent of Russia. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Look at Gregg Jarrett, he's guilty, he's laughing. SOLOMON: Yes, it's pretty funny. But I'll tell you what's not funny, on the way here tonight, a woman stopped me on the street, angry and screaming, and tossed her tacos on me. I did come in smelling like taco dip, I apologize. But this sort of vitriol and silliness that goes on, we ought to just stay focused on the facts and what happens every day in our lives. There are so many important things that were divulged and most of the media is chasing things that are irrelevant to these facts. HANNITY: Last road, Gregg Jarrett. You get it tonight. JARRETT: Well, if you are talking about Hillary Clinton, the evidence is already there. I spent a chapter of my book talking about it. There is an internal audit on her foundation talking about how there was quid pro quo benefits, the Doug Band emails which demonstrate that Bill Clinton didn't just cross the line of impropriety, he demolished it, using the foundation as his own personal piggy bank, as his wife but a for sale sign on the door of her office of secretary of state. It's good that there is an FBI investigation, and there should also be a grand jury to look at. HANNITY: I will make a prediction, 2019, going to be the year of boomerang number two. You watch. Thank you all. Directly ahead, more on the FBI's stunning mistreatment of an American hero. Lieutenant General Flynn, investigative journalist Sharyl Attkisson, Congressman Jim Jordan, they will be here to respond. And also tonight, part two, personal side interview with Melania Trump, our first lady, that coming up. HANNITY: We get back for our top story. As we mentioned in our opening monologue, Robert Mueller's team on defense tonight, really serious claims. The FBI pressuring General Flynn to be interviewed without an attorney present. That has now got the attention of U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan. He's ordered Mueller to hand over all documents related to the Flynn interview by 3:00 p.m. tomorrow, and on top of that, you have James Comey tape boasting, oh, we totally took advantage of the fact this is a new administration. We would not have done nice and the Obama or Bush years. Really? Here to discuss it more, Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan and a host of Sinclair's "Full Measure," Sharyl Attkisson is with us. This is how we treat American heroes that we now brag -- oh, this is something that I wouldn't have done or gotten away with in a more organized administration like the Obama administration and the Bush administration. So, I took full advantage. On top of the deputy FBI director telling Flynn he doesn't need a lawyer or that they wanted him relaxed. Meanwhile, because of the unmasking, and leaking ever on intelligence, something by the way Sharyl Attkisson knows pretty much about personally, they had his direct transcript that they should not have had, Congressman. REP. JIM JORDAN (R), OHIO: Yes. HANNITY: OK, when does this end and when do these people get held accountable, instead of the people with the taxi medallions and the loan applications? JORDAN: Yes. Well, that's why we've always said, we need a second special counsel because, you know, we can put anyone in jail, we can just try to get answers. But you are so right, Sean. When you say I got away with something, that just tells you, you didn't do with the right way. You didn't do it -- you didn't follow the rules, you didn't do it the way you were supposed to. They were so focused on getting President Trump that they were g willing to set up a lieutenant general, a guy who served our country, as you said, 33 years. So, that's the most -- that's the most egregious part of this, what they did to General Flynn. The other thing I think it's important to understand is, Mike Flynn ran the defense intelligence agency. He had to know his conversations with Kislyak were being listened to, were being monitored. He had to know that. There's no reason for him to come in there and say something that wasn't true. He just got caught because he didn't know they were setting him up like they did. And so, Judge Sullivan demanded these documents is exactly what needs to happen. HANNITY: The dynamic trio, Comey, McCabe and Strzok, Sharyl Attkisson. You could relate this -- you can relate to this I'm sure in your own way, especially unmasking surveillance issues. But more importantly, I can't believe this has happened in our country. I don't care where you stand in the political spectrum. SHARYL ATTKISSON, HOST, SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP: I think you're getting at what I think is the bigger story, really and is underreported in terms of how big it really is. Which is, the surveillance and other alleged abuses implemented by some bad actors in our intelligence community. And the problem is, you know, I'm glad that Judge Sullivan is flirting around the edges of this in the Flynn case. But who ultimately does anything about it? Because those accused as in the government computer intrusions to me or are the things that we've talked about are the ones who have the prosecutorial authority. And if they're not going to agree to investigate themselves and prosecute themselves, and so far, they haven't, then where do you turn in all this? HANNITY: You know, I don't know how we remedy this, between -- you go back, they're all the same characters in this play. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: And you know, it's Strzok and Comey writing an exoneration before investigation. She was guilty. The biggest slam dunk case ever with the e- mail server and not responding with a subpoena and erasing and bleach bit, and the of course the FISA abuse. James Comey's admission, Jim Jordan, they didn't vet it. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: But he put his signature on this thing to spy on an opposition party candidate. They've committed a fraud against the FISA court. They don't even tell the judge who paid for it. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: So, may have a political taint to it. That is not how things are supposed to work under this Constitution, under our fourth amendment rights. JORDAN: No, you're exactly right. He said in a deposition last week that he didn't know that they had a legal duty if there was a legal duty to present exculpatory information to the FISA judge. Of course, you have to do that. And for the head of the FBI to say that he didn't know that they technically have a legal duty to do that is scary. The other thing I come back to, Sean, is never forget the bias that exists with these key people. McCabe, Comey, Strzok, Page, Baker, these key people. Remember the name they gave to Clinton investigation "mid-year exam," something they had to get through, they knew the fix was in. They were going to get it and taken care of. Kind of get it through the "mid- year exam." But what was the name that they gave the Trump investigation? Crossfire hurricane. Just the name shows you the bias that was there from the get-go with these top people at the FBI who ran both investigations. HANNITY: And Sharyl, if you look what they did in all of these cases here. They're involved, the same characters, the same players, the same people that had a bias. They did this on week one of the Trump administration. Sounds like an insurance policy to me. Sounds like a media leak strategy is coming thereafter. ATTKISSON: It sounds like an operation. And something I think we learned from Comey, I mean, I thought I was someone who kind of thought this was plowing old ground to look back at the Clinton material. But in light of what he said, Comey said in his testimony that Loretta Lynch, the attorney general, should have recused herself and didn't. And was either compromised or appeared to be not just from the tarmac meeting but about some other unnamed material that we don't know about. Number two, he says that he had known about Agent Strzok and Page's texts, he wouldn't have let them stay on the investigation that they did on Clinton. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I forgot to mention. That's right. And they wiped clean the phones of Strzok and Page when he worked for Mueller. You know why I question Jeannie Rhee and Andrew Weissmann and Mueller's choice of his team all Democratic donors? This is why. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: Pretty disgraceful. All right. Thank you both. When we come back, more of my exclusive interview with Melania Trump. That's up next right here. Stay with us on Hannity. HANNITY: All right. Here now is part two of my exclusive interview with the first lady Melania Trump. And I asked her about the media's attacks even on her own son, Baron. We talked about the Me Too movement and much more. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: Let's talk about media. And there been a lot of controversy as he says it's fake news or some of it is fake news. Do you agree? MELANIA TRUMP, FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES: Some of it. Some of it it's fake news. I would say don't believe everything what you hear and what you read. Not all of it. But some of it is fake news. HANNITY: Even your young son has been brought into this at times. That doesn't -- that would make me angry. Does that make you angry? TRUMP: It does make me angry because children should be off limits. I protect him and I want to give him normal life as possible. This is not normal life. But a life to protect him and give him the childhood that he deserves. HANNITY: You feel it's working out as best he can? I've met him. He seems like a young, very respectful, happy kid. TRUMP: He's very happy. He's strong, he's tough. He's enjoying life in Washington. HANNITY: Who is he more like, the fighter, the outward fighter, Donald or his mom? TRUMP: He has both qualities. He's a fighter. He's a fighter. He has a soft, beautiful heart but he's a fighter, too. And he's very strong. HANNITY: Do you find with all the issues that's your husband deals with, foreign policy, Russia, China, little rocket man, he used this term, all the issues with employment, regulations, energy, borders, the wall, you mostly in agreement on the big issues that he fights for every day? TRUMP: With policies, some of them that I agree, some I don't. I give him my opinion. But he's the president. He was elected. So-- HANNITY: When all is said and done and you now have taken a more public role, what do you want people to know about what issues matter to you the most? I know you have your Be Best campaign. You're seeing the military, you're travelling the world now more than you have. What do you want people to know about what's important to you as first lady? TRUMP: Well, my Be Best be initiative it's in the early stages. And I'm very proud of what I accomplished so far. I have three pillars that is focusing on. It's well-being of children, opioid crisis and social media use. So, I travel the country, I meet with the people, I meet with parents. And I want to shine a spotlight on the organization and programs that support children and want to be the best for them to grow up and a responsible adult. HANNITY: On borders in particular, you did go down to the border and you meet with a lot of border patrol guys. I've been down there 13 times in my 23 years at Fox. Everywhere from the Rio Grande to San Diego in drug warehouses. When you're down there and you see with your own eyes what's going on, is the wall in your head the only answer? TRUMP: I think we need the wall to protect the country. HANNITY: For security. TRUMP: The security. To protect it from the drugs. Of course, we know we will always have people coming over. But this is one solution that we could stop big caravans coming over. And I was on the border and so first time and meet with border patrol and I see what they to 24/7 and their hands are full. HANNITY: You saw rocks and bottles being pelted at them. TRUMP: Correct. HANNITY: And they tried to crush the border like the southern border in Mexico. You recently spoke out about the Me Too movement. We saw what happened with Justice Kavanaugh in his confirmation hearing, which to me is so over the top, but you also said yes, we should take it seriously. Listen to women. But then you've talk about due process and the presumption of innocence. Do you feel that's missing in this movement? TRUMP: I think we should all be heard, women and men. We need to be heard and we need to be treated equal. HANNITY: Remember every time before we ever heard from some of the individuals in the Justice Kavanaugh case, do you hear people say I believe. We haven't heard from anybody. TRUMP: You can believe until you're proven guilty. You cannot be guilty until you're proven guilty. And that's very important that we follow the law. HANNITY: I want to talk about your journey a little more. Because we kind of glossed over it. Because you grew up in a small town, in Slovenia. And then you're a model in Milan and Paris. You were independent. You were alone at that time. TRUMP: Correct. HANNITY: Now did you grow up wanting to be a model or-- TRUMP: I studied design and architecture. And I stopped my study architecture because I wanted to go in modelling business and professional career as a model. So, I moved to Milan and Paris and then New York. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How young were you at that time? TRUMP: I was -- I start modelling in Slovenia first when I was 16. Then we went to Milan and then start from there on. HANNITY: Were you with your parents or you're independent? (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: I was alone. HANNITY: You were alone. TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: So, you grew up fast at young age, independent at a young age. TRUMP: Correct. Yes. HANNITY: As you look back on that, and then your journey from Paris to Milan to New York, did that make you the person that says that they are confident, a good friend and true to herself? TRUMP: Yes. My journey made me that. HANNITY: Madam first lady, thank you so much for being with us. TRUMP: Thank you so much. HANNITY: I really appreciate it. TRUMP: Thank you. (END VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: When we come back, you won't believe this. The mainstream media is reacting negatively to my interview with the first lady. They cannot help themselves. It's pathetic. Joe Concha, Rachel Campos-Duffy when we come back straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Since our interview with the first lady aired the media has predictively sadly pounced to criticize whatever they can come up with. This is beyond pathetic. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SUSAN GLASSER, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: Here's this extraordinary story of a woman who came to this country as an immigrant, as a model and now the first lady of the United States. And you know, you would think in her rare public appearances, you know, that some terrible wrong has been done to her in this country. I've always been surprised by that air of grievance that she carries very publicly with her. APRIL RYAN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: The first lady is echoing exactly what the president says. And it's decrying -- the president has cried fake because he doesn't like the truth that's being reported. And now the first lady who at one point used to see clearer than we thought than she is now. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Meanwhile, President Trump took to Twitter to comment on the anti-gay slur made by one of his ardent critics, MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski. The president tweeted, quote, "If it was a conservative that says what crazed Mika stated on her show yesterday, using a certain horrible term, that person would be banned permanently from television. She would probably be given a pass by their terrible ratings. Congratulations to Rick Grennell, our great ambassador to Germany for having the courage to take this horrible issue on." Here now with reaction, The Hill's Joe Concha, Fox News contributor Rachel Campos -- he's and -- contributor Rachel Campos-Duffy. Merry Christmas. I'll get it out. Joe, let me start with you. (CROSSTALK) RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Merry Christmas. HANNITY: I got to be honest, it is so predictable. I am convinced that if the Trumps gave every person in the United States $5 million this Christmas, everybody, and cured cancer, they'd still criticize them. There's no -- every second minute, hour of every single day of the year, they can't stop it. It's their drug today. They need a fix every day to hate. (CROSSTALK) CAMPOS-DUFFY: Absolutely. It was surprising-- JOE CONCHA, REPORTER, THE HILL MEDIA: Yes, and that's just your opinion, Sean. Go ahead, Rachel. CAMPOS-DUFFY: I thought you were talking to me. I'm sorry. HANNITY: OK. Rachel, go. CAMPOS-DUFFY: OK. I was going to say, I saw in the Washington post, that they had a headline about your interview with Melania. And it was about how her poll numbers are so low. They refuse to look at what she's doing and what she's saying. By the way, I'm surprised her poll numbers and her husband's poll numbers are holding in the 40s with how much negative and unrelenting press they get. Those numbers are built on results. And what Melania was talking with you in the interview was absolutely right. She's frustrated. They refuse to report on the results of the administration and all they want to do is go negative, negative, negative. HANNITY: You know, I was there. I saw all of these events yesterday, Joe. It's like the military lit up. I can't even tell -- it was such, it was great for them. They deserve this. And still, you know what? It's so petty. They attack everybody in that family. And you know, if they can't get Russia collusion, now it's campaign finance. They never ever report on the other side of it, which is all the Clinton crimes that we can prove and collusion with Russia, we can prove. CONCHA: And Sean, I tend to trust local media. I still think that's quite strong. If you read those media accounts of Melania Trump's visits to Joint Langley yesterday, for instance, she was met with cheers and applause when she met with service men and women. CAMPOS-DUFFY: Of course. CONCHA: And I don't know how you could come away from your interview and say, she's whining about the job. I don't see that at all. Because I'm the type of guy who bases people on their actions. And the bottom line is, that this is the kind of gutter speculation that we see with the president as well where we have mind readers or people playing doctor on TV in terms of trying to get in the president's head. But the first lady is obviously clearly enjoying her job. And she's going to places like Alaska like she did last month to visit with troops. So, look, she's getting horrible coverage compared to other first ladies. Her accent has been mocked. We remember Jimmy Kimmel. And look, English is her fifth language. Less than 1 percent of the world's population which is 7.7 billion people can speak-- HANNITY: Can speak. CONCHA: -- five languages. So, it's kind of ironic that a late-night host just mocking an immigrant. No irony there. But look, first ladies are sympathetic figures over all, t doesn't matter who you are. And when you have children in the White House, whether that is Melania Trump, Michelle Obama, Laura Bush or the Clintons, go ahead criticize and mock, but there is no upside to it, Sean. HANNITY: You know, the irony is -- Rachel, you're right about something. The president's approval rating is exactly where Obama's was at his time during the presidency. CAMPOS-DUFFY: That's right. HANNITY: So, with all the talk and all the-- (CROSSTALK) CAMPOS-DUFFY: And think about all the fawning press, Sean. I mean, that the Obamas had. And they had horrible results for the country. It's absolutely shocking. I just want to say this. I don't think -- we've talked a lot about how Michelle Obama has gotten all of these magazine covers. Melania a super model, former super model who has received none. I don't believe for a second that every single editor of those fashion magazines don't want Melania on the cover. What they're afraid of is the backlash that will happen from the gatekeepers of the left and of Hollywood. HANNITY: You know-- CAMPOS-DUFFY: They saw what happened to Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel treated Donald Trump fairly on his show during the campaign and he was shamed and ostracized for it because the left has said you are not allowed to normalize this first lady, you are not allowed to normalize this president or this presidency. And that's what this is about. HANNITY: Wi will tell you this though. And I spent the time and I saw the troops reaction to her. And I asked her about it. She has the resolve that she's going to -- she's going to stay true to herself. That was a part of the interview that we aired yesterday. CAMPOS-DUFFY: Yes. HANNITY: And that strength is something that everybody can learn something from. It's not a Republican or Democratic issue here. Serving other people, making their Christmas, acknowledging their sacrifice for others is a noble thing to do. Leaving kids alone, would also a noble thing to do but the media can't even control themselves there. Guys, we appreciate it. Good to see you both. When we come back, major programming announcement. I did another big interview today. We'll tell you who I was with. You can take bets now on Twitter when we get back. HANNITY: All right. We do have a programming announcement tomorrow night at 9 Eastern right here on the Fox News channel. We will be airing our exclusive interview with U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley covering a wide range of topics. North Korea, Russia, China, Iran, peace in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia. We hope you will set your DVR so you won't miss it. Now, I do say one thing. I'm going to be paying very close attention tomorrow. General -- Lieutenant General Michael Flynn to see the Comey's bragging about he wouldn't have done this in the George W. Bush administration or the Obama administration, bragging that he would take advantage and his deputy, telling General Flynn, don't get a lawyer. This is how we treat veterans? Thirty-three years of service to us. That's all the time we have left. Thank you for being with us. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham, I can't run into the studio tonight. I'm back in the yellow place. Load-Date: December 14, 2018 End of Document Executive Order From President Trump To Boost Opportunity Zones To Help Distressed Areas Especially Black And Hispanics In America; Media Not Covering Trump's Successes; Judges Want ICE Off The Courthouses And Wants To Be Added In The Sensitive Locations List; Melania Trump Criticizes Media; Interview With White House Senior Policy Adviser Stephen Miller; Continuing Possibility Of Border Wall On U.S.-Mexico Border Examined; Pollster Frank Luntz Reviews Potential 2020 Democratic Presidential Candidates. Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST December 13, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8372 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Howard Kurtz Guests: Pastor Darrell Scott, Niger Innis, Chris Edwards, Brian Kelly, Eileen Blessinger; Stephen Miller, Frank Luntz Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Is this how we treat veterans? Thirty-three years of service to us. It's all the time we have left. Thank you for being with us. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham, I can't run into the studio tonight. I'm back in the other place. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: I know that was fun. The swamp enjoyed having you here, Sean. It was really fun. I was hoping -- we were going to do kind of a little swamp monster down there. We had swamp monster puppets, but we didn't get them in time because we didn't know if you could come through the wall. So, you defied once again. Great show tonight by the way. HANNITY: You too. Listen, if I don't see you, Merry Christmas. INGRAHAM: Merry Christmas, Sean. You have a great time with your family. Happy New Year. HANNITY: All right. Happy New Year too. INGRAHAM: All right, we'll see you later. I am Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. from Washington tonight. Did Trump actually let the border wall slipped through his fingers? White House advisor Stephen Miller, one of those rare public appearances for him, he is here tonight to respond to that, and new rumors about who might be the next chief of staff. Plus, liberal judges want to stop ICE from arresting illegals at courthouses. And there is a risk that could present to you, that's coming up. And later, Melania Trump hits back at the media opportunists out there. Wait until you hear what some of today's vile attacks against her. Howard Kurtz is going to weigh in on that. Plus, polling guru, Frank Luntz, is here to break down how the Democrats are stepping on their own message. We're going to bring you the tape. But first, Trump's successes in black and white. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Now, this was a scene you likely did not see on one of your local or national newscasts. The White House announcing a bold plan to change the lives in America of some of our poorest citizens, those who live in the most distressed and sometimes the most dangerous neighborhoods. Flanked by Senator Tim Scott and BET founder Bob Johnson with Van Jones looking on, you see him there. The president signed an executive order creating something called the Opportunity and Revitalization Council. Now, if you think this is just kind of another brick in the bureaucracy here in D.C. signifying nothing, think again. Led by HUD Secretary Ben Carson, it will coordinate efforts across the entire federal government to deliver jobs, investment, and growth in underprivileged areas. By the way, it includes rural areas too. Now this means more private-sector money will flow into some of these high-risk areas or low development areas. And what will that do? In turn, that will deliver jobs. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Isn't it a great thing? (APPLAUSE) Thank you, everybody. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. President? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. President, your reaction to Michael Cohen. (CROSSTALK) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Of course you heard that. The few reporters were actually on hand there. They weren't interested in the substance of this undertaking. All they are interested in is shouting questions out about Cohen. And unlike most White House events starring Trump, it was not broadcast on cable or on C-Span or any of the networks. I wonder why. I will tell you why. Because Trump is delivering results for those who Democrats thought that they had forever co- opted politically. It all smashes the press' relentless drumbeats about how the president just doesn't like black people. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What more do we need to say or hear from this racist man? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Here we have a president who has once again said racist and despicable words about African-Americans, people of color. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All the policy that he's put forward has been anti- people of color. He has continued policies that I believe are racist in nature. DON LEMON, CNN HOST: The president of these United States is racist. All of us already knew that. JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The president seems to harbor racist feelings about people of color. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's just despicable. Every time I watch those, I am like, I don't even want to play them anymore. Media mogul Bob Johnson, one of the most prominent and most successful African-Americans probably on the planet, obviously begged to disagree with that montage. He was on hand to recognize the administration's drive and commitment to help low income Americans. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BOB JOHNSON, BET CO-FOUNDER: Just recently, your Department of Labor signed a historic document that created something called auto portability. Auto portability is designed to reduce retirement leakage among low income 401(k) account holders who tend to cash out. And Mr. President, you should know this, 60 percent of African-American and Hispanic-Americans cash out of their 401(k) accounts. This program will put close to $800 billion back in the retirement pockets of minority Americans. So I just want to applaud you for that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: No coverage. I had to play that just because no one saw it. Now, you see, there are a lot of politicians out there who traffic in bromides shining with a veneer of real compassion. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Hope is the insistence that no matter how tough our circumstances, there are better days ahead. If we persist, despite all of our individual failings and all of our inadequacies, together we can overcome. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's nice. I guess that's Nobel Prize material. But the problem is talking about hope is beautiful but it won't bring business into your community. People who can get jobs tend to have more hope. Despair and crime in places like Chicago and Baltimore spiraled out of control during much of Obama's eight years. But I know what you're going to say. But Laura, Obama and the Democrats care more than Donald Trump. Look, you can see it. You can feel it. They care. Then they're going to bring up Charlottesville and the s-hole comment Trump made to them drive their point's home. OK, even for the sake of argument I concede those points, the tonality, the wording, maybe wouldn't have done it that way, fine. But I ask the following, who cares more about America in particularly the working poor? The guy who delivers results, record low unemployment, opportunity zones and decent chance for criminal justice reform or a party that is all talk and no action? I will take the former any day. Oh, and by the way, the press did find one angle on the opportunity zone that they, well, they thought this part of the story was worth covering. Jared and Trump himself are only pushing these inner-city investment incentives because they will make money off their own real estate holdings. Please. Secretary Ben Carson came on my radio show yesterday, and he swatted this whole thing away. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) BEN CARSON, HUD SECRETARY: These zones were picked by the governors. So they were not picked by Jared Kushner. There are all kinds of people in the country who already have real estate in those zones. Will they benefit? Probably. Why shouldn't they benefit? Why shouldn't everybody benefit? Why shouldn't we create win-win situations? (END AUDIO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I want to see more of Ben Carson out there, by the way. I loved what he had to say. And once again, the media proves itself to be absolutely incapable of covering virtually anything about the work the president does to try to restore our country. Not even an inkling of objectivity. And not -- he didn't do this, by the way, to benefit just a few of his pals or the people who voted for him, but he is doing this to try to benefit those who have been served so poorly by politicians of both parties for decades. But I'm telling you despite everything that is swirling around him the Democrat's obsession with impeachment, the indictments, et cetera, et cetera, the president continues to do work that other presidents wouldn't do. And poor working class Americans will be better for it. And that's THE ANGLE. Joining me now with reaction, Pastor Darrell Scott. He was at the signing of the Opportunity Zones Executive Order and he's also the CEO of the National Diversity Coalition for Trump. And with me is Niger Innis from the Congress for Racial Equality and Chris Edwards from the Cato Institute. Great to have you all here tonight. Pastor, you were at this event yesterday. Now, what's your reaction to some of that sound you heard from my ANGLE that President Trump not only doesn't care about minorities, he doesn't deliver anything for minorities, but that he is an actual racist despite everything that's been laid out. DARRELL SCOTT, CEO, TRUMP NATIONAL DIVERSITY COALITION: Well, I can sum all of that up in one word. And that word is hogwash. I can think of a stronger word but I can't say it on television. Listen, I have been involved in this with the president and with this administration as far as this Opportunity Zone Act and urban revitalization plans for over a year, year and a half. It's something that they've been working very, very hard on. And yesterday saw the fruition of a lot of planning and a lot of time and labor intensive activity working towards it. And this is going to enhance this entire country. It's going to cause developers and builders, it's going to provide incentive for them to redevelop and revitalize these blighted areas in America. And it's going to be a shining symbol of Trump's vision for making America great again. INGRAHAM: But Chris Edwards from the Cato Institute disagrees. Chris, you think this is going to be just a big boondoggle for the developers and the business folks. Not going to trickle down at all to -- CHRIS EDWARDS, CATO INDUSTRIES: I think it's a very well-meaning proposal or law now and, you know, it's a big thing, there's no doubt about it. I think it's very misguided. What these are, there is 8,000 zones across the country now. Politicians across the country sat down that map and literally drew lines down streets in America. On one side of the street, you get this giant capital gains tax break. On the other side of the street, you don't get anything. So what has happened is immediately landowners, and Ben Carson touched on this, landowners inside the zone immediately had these giant appreciations in the value of their property for doing nothing. That's just how economics works. On the other side -- INGRAHAM: Yes, but how do people across the board not benefit though? Of course there's always going to be -- EDWARDS: Because people left right outside the zones are losers. The new investments won't go outside the zones new investment will go inside the zone so it creates inequality between Americans. INGRAHAM: Look, you are loud. You're loud. I love your voice but it's very booming. SOTT: He doesn't know what he's talking about. He doesn't know what he's talking about, Laura. He doesn't know what he's talking about. INGRAHAM: All right, I want to get Niger respond and then you can respond then I have something to say about how the zones actually work, Niger NIGER INNIS, CONGRESS OF RACIAL EQUALITY: Yes. Look, with just a few short years ago during the Obama administration that you had a record number of blacks and Hispanics a part of a growing dependency society, even working- class whites. You know, for the first time, health indicators for white men, working class white men, was catching up negatively to those of black and Hispanic men because there was a sense of hopelessness, a sense of eternal dependency on big government. That has changed. Small businesses for the first time in our history, small businesses, more small businesses were closing than opening. What the president is doing with these opportunity zones and I want to applaud my friend, Pastor Scott. I want to applaud the president. What they are doing is they are making a bet and investment not on big government but on capitalism and I think my friend from Cato would agree that capitalism has done more to free and liberate people from poverty, not just in our country but around the world, than any other system in history. And that's what the Trump administration is investing in. INGRAHAM: I always say, what's the alternative here? What's the alternative? We spent, what, $7 trillion on the war on poverty. We got more poverty. We guys spend a lot of money on the war on poverty, correct, pastor, if I'm right? It is about? Cato has a figure. I think it's about $7 trillion. So what is the alternative? What is Cato -- last time I checked, Cato is for open borders, more trade deals than the TPP, correct? EDWARDS: We are for trade and I agree with everything the other guests mentioned about capitalism. I am all for opportunity everywhere in the country, equal treatment. These zones only touch about one quarter of low income neighborhoods in America. So the three quarters of the neighborhoods left out of these zones are going to be losers because the investments all going to go to these winning zones. Trump's new counsel that he announced yesterday or today is going to put more spending subsidies just in these zones, leaving out the other areas. So I like equal treatment especially at the federal level, not special deals for special groups of people. INGRAHAM: So do you think Donald Trump, hold on -- do you think Donald Trump concocted this whole thing to benefit his son-in-law? EDWARDS: No, no, no, it's a very well-meaning thing. INGRAHAM: OK, so you are not part of that crowd. EDWARDS: No, absolutely. Mr. Kushner does sounds like he owns some of the land in opportunity zones coincidentally. INGRAHAM: I bet a lot of the donors to Cato own a lot of that land too, that's my guess. EDWARDS: And they have all experienced bigger capital appreciation for doing nothing actually and for not -- INGRAHAM: I don't think it's doing nothing. Ii think you are taking a risk, Pastor. You are taking a risk by putting investment in an area that has oftentimes been dangerous, very difficult to grow a company or in the rural zones, just kind of desolate, and no investment at all. SCOTT: Listen. First of all, I think you have given the Cato hater too much time because he is promoting negativism and not wanting to talk about positive attributes of this. First of all, when you elevate the value of these depressed areas, the areas adjacent to the depressed areas automatically elevate their value as well. Real estate 101 is when you look at property value, you look at the comps, comparables. And that's how you determine the value. So, if an area is depressed, it's bringing down the value of the surrounding areas. If that area increases their value, the areas around it automatically increase as well. He's trying to level the playing field and provide incentives for those to invest in areas that previously will not invested in. INGRAHAM: Yes. I want you guys -- SCOTT: Now also, we have a very aggressive urban revitalization program. It's not going to simply be investing in real estate probably. They are going to be investing in the people in those areas today, providing vocational training, educational opportunities, there is going to be a lot to it to revitalize the people. They can be transformed by the renewing of their minds so that the increase in value is total not just physical, it's also spiritual. INGRAHAM: Yes. I want to move to something, guys, I want to move something that -- it grows beyond just the economics of this. To how the left has tried to poison the well among minorities against this president, despite the economic news, despite in issues like this, Niger, criminal justice reform which is coming down the pipe. And this is just 24 hours before this council that Cato Institute thinks is not going to work and, you know, I certainly hope they are wrong. I'm actually very optimistic about this, very optimistic about it. But Niger, 24 hours before this, this is what we were seeing on CNN. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LEMON: West (ph), do you think the president takes hate and white nationalism seriously? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Look, he has very often employed the language that mirrors their own language that, you know, there's that line that Andrew Gillum used back in the Florida race about his then opponent or he said, I'm not saying you're a racist but the racist think you are a racist. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That old trope. That is repeat the same lines over and over again. It's every day the same thing. To this whole panel, we are actually debating whether this will work substantively and maybe America doesn't want to hear that. I don't know. Maybe they just want to hear people yell all day. I think it's interesting that Cato has a point of view about the economics of this. I like to hear from what the folks at Cato have to say or Chamber of Commerce. It's interesting. They are not offering a solution for the inner-city. They are offering the following: Trump is a racist. That's all they will say, or white nationalist. That's it. That's what they are offering black America in the era of Trump, that Trump is a racist. That's it. Niger, I got to tell you, it's infuriating to people who have seen the good work that they are doing or trying to do. INNIS: Well, certainly the far left wing will do that on a regular basis because they have nothing to offer. Our friends at Cato probably have a substantive policy disagreement with the president on this, right or wrong. But I doubt that Chris is going to give into that racial demagoguery. But the reason the far left wing does it because they have controlled inner-city America for 50 years or longer and they have delivered nothing, nothing for the black community. Nothing for the Hispanic community. Nothing for working-class, poor whites for years, so what do they do? Every two years for every four years or every three years for local election, they will drag out the racism card, which is nonsense and say that, well, you've got to keep me in power. Maxine -- Mad Maxine Waters has been in power for decades in Los Angeles. And what has she delivered for her community other than saying that that guy over there or that woman over there if they are Republican and they are white, they are racist. It's nonsense and the black community, Hispanic community is tired of it. And what they are afraid of on the far left is not that these opportunity zones are going to be a failure, but that they are going to be a success. INGRAHAM: Well, I have a question. Why is the president's popularity among African-Americans, it was at 36 in August according to one poll, now it is back down below 20. Why is that? Why is it going in the wrong direction, pastor? I mean, we know Kanye West kind of came and went. We don't have enough Pastor Burns and Niger Innis' out there. SCOTT: It's going to go back up especially after this and the prison reform bill. You know, one thing I agree with my brother Niger, you know what, it's insulting to the intelligence of black America. It is the fact that the left does not give us one intellectual reason to not vote for President Trump or not support him. They give us emotional reasons. He hates you. He hates blacks. Don't vote for him. He hates blacks. Well, he's creating opportunity zones. But he hates you. Well, he's into prison reform, but he hates you and insulting our intelligence by speaking to us like that when the proof is on the pudding. This man, and I said it. He could be the most proactive president for black America in my lifetime, and he's proving me to be a prophet in that respect. He's doing things -- if President Obama had done this, there would be a parade down the street right now. They'd be -- (CROSSTALK) Obama, he's the savior of the black community. He's prisoner reform. Oh, Obama. And so you know, these guys like Cato in them, they are going to find some reason to say something bad. INGRAHAM: OK. Well, was Cato also against prison reform or are you for that? EDWARDS: No, we are absolutely for it. INGRAHAM: OK. EDWARDS: Cato is against Trump. EDWARDS: I am for lower taxes on investment. I am for equal treatment though. We should have lower taxes on investment across the board. The reason why cities like Detroit are poor is because of bad policy, high regulations. Detroit has some of the highest property taxes in the nation. If Detroit lowered its property taxes, it would get more business investment. You don't need the federal government for it. INGRAHAM: All right, great panel guys. Thanks so much. An actual substance discussed. All right. Liberals are always talking about safe spaces, now some left-wing judges want to provide them to dangerous illegal immigrants who are walking out of the courthouse. I'm going to explain all this next, plus Melania called the media opportunists out, and wouldn't you know, they proved her right. Howie Kurtz is here to tell us how. Stay there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Since I took the oath of office, ICE agents have arrested over 235,000 aliens with criminal records including those charged or convicted of more than 100,000 assaults and nearly 4,000 killings. Think of that, 4,000 killings and they want to abolish ICE. No thank you. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, remember over the summer when the Democrats wanted to do just that, what the president said, abolish ICE? Well now, nearly 70 former state and federal judges want ICE banned from courthouses. In a letter to the acting ICE Director, they wrote "Judges simply cannot do their jobs and our justice system cannot function effectively if victims, defendants, witnesses and family members do not feel secure in accessing the courthouse." Well, the group wants courthouses to be added to the so-called sensitive locations list where immigration officers generally do not enter to make arrests. Here now, former assistant U.S. Attorney Brian Kelly who prosecuted immigration cases in the border county of San Diego. Eileen Blessinger is also with us, an immigration attorney. Brian, let me start with you. How bad of an idea is this to ban ICE from operating outside of a court room where lot of these detainees who are obviously illegal immigrants are released or coming and going as part of another case? BRIAN KELLY, FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY: Well, it's a terrible idea, Laura and it's obviously political. This is not a new practice. These arrest at courthouses, they are not very common, but they've been going on since the Obama administration. And I don't recall any of these judges complaining when it was happening under the Obama administration. INGRAHAM: Well, one of the things that they -- that ICE said to us tonight and Eileen, I want you to react to this, they wrote the following to us so they gave a statement. "Arrest in courthouses are routine practice for law enforcement agencies throughout the country. Because many jurisdictions no longer allow ICE to take custody of aliens inside of jails, courthouses are the next safest option. As the judges acknowledged in their letter, ICE updated its courthouse policy in coordination with the Association of Chief Justices and Court Administrators to clarify that the agency target specific aliens, appearing most often as a defendant in criminal matters and not those appearing in court as victims or witnesses." Isn't that the case that this is being thrown out in a very emotional manner, again, to try to paint the Trump administration as well, you are going after like victims of domestic violence in a courthouse. That's really not the case. EILEEN BLESSINGER, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: It may not be that they are specifically targeting the victims, but the impact is the same. The effect is the same. If people are hearing that they are going after illegal immigrants within the court system, then the actual witnesses, the victims, they all think that they are even play even if that's not what's happening in practice. INGRAHAM: Well, there is an updated policy that came out also. There is also something called -- I can't remember the name of the visa, but it's a visa for victims of crime, correct Ryan, that you can apply for if you are a victim. And if these courthouses, these judges or these lawyers for the illegal immigrants aren't aware of this, when their clients are going into the courthouse, well, I just don't know what to say about that. I mean, they are here in the country illegally. We all forget that. KELLY: It's never been the case that illegal aliens were eager to hang out at federal and state courthouses, right. The policy now in place that ICE is implementing targets only certain criminal aliens, members of gangs, national security risks, that sort of thing. They are not just arresting willy-nilly crime victims and things like that. They are in fact trying to do their job in this opposition to them at every turn and is making a dangerous job even harder. It's much safer for them to be making arrests in a courthouse than out on the streets where, you know, anything can happen. INGRAHAM: Where people get killed, including the agents. I mean, we do have to preserve, you know, their safety as well. I've got to say, a lot of the reason, and we heard this from ICE tonight as well, they are doing this, Eileen, because there are sanctuary cities in jurisdictions that do not allow them to go into jails to assess the conditions, the status of particular inmates, nor are they alerted to the fact that certain inmates are released. We just had a case in New Jersey in early November where an individual, it was released and then goes on to murder three people in Missouri, from New Jersey, which is a sanctuary state. So ICE is trying to keep us safe out there and I don't understand for the life of me why people who claim to care about women and children, a lot of Democrats, are in the middle of these defending criminals from being detained by or caught up by ICE. That's going to protect women and children in the United States, and men. BLESSINGER: Well, I mean, I think the important thing here is that the ICE officers are trying to protect them but so are the police officers that are making the cases against these defendants. If the victims don't feel safe going to court, then all of the work that the police officers, the prosecutors have done have fallen apart. When we talk about the U visas, a lot of times the prosecutors don't feel comfortable telling the witnesses about that, the existence of a U visa for fear of it becoming biased later when they are testifying and use against them. KELLY: Well, look -- INGRAHAM: Yes. I think people -- hold on a second Brian. Yes, they are not targeting these people. This is a complete red herring. They are not targeting women or children or people who have been brutalized. That's just not how it works. Just so people understand this case I referenced, Luis Rodrigo Perez, we have a photo. Put it up on the screen, please. Twenty-three years old, charged with killing three people in Missouri, and should have faced deportation proceedings after he was arrested last year in New Jersey for domestic violence. Instead, New Jersey released him, and now we've got three people dead. That's one. We have Juan Ramon Vasquez, another individual previously deported from Honduras who raped a child after Philadelphia officials ignored an ICE detainer. Isn't that lovely. KELLY: That's right. That's right, and there's no reason -- INGRAHAM: And it goes on and on and on. And I put this at the feet of the open borders crowd who cares more about the rights of illegal immigrants than the safety of the American people. It's not fearmongering. These are real lives that have been affected. Brian? KELLY: That's right. And it makes no sense to treat this particular crime different from any others. For instance, if it was an American citizen who was a defendant in, say, a tax case, and there's an IRS agent in the courtroom, no one would complain about that. Or if there is an FBI agent in the courtroom with a warrant on somebody, no one would complain. INGRAHAM: This is a special crime, special status, special protection, illegal immigrants. You can't ever deport them according to most people on the left today. If you really twisted their arms they say I guess most murderers should be deported, but a lot of the other crimes, they should be able to stay here and live out their lives. All right, panel, fantastic job, as always. Last night First Lady Melania Trump spoke with FOX's own Sean Hannity, and she didn't hold back when she was talking about the media. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: What's been the hardest thing that you have to deal with? MELANIA TRUMP, U.S. FIRST LADY: I would say the opportunists who are using my name or my family name to advance themselves, from comedians to journalists to journalists to performers, book writers. HANNITY: Does it hurt? MELANIA TRUMP: It doesn't hurt. The problem is they are writing the history, and it's not correct. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Apparently offended by the truth, CNN proved the first lady's point less than 24 hours later. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: The first lady's poll numbers plummet with her favorable rating falling by double digits. And in a new interview, she calls the hardest part of her job opportunists who use her name, including journalists. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me now, Howie Kurtz, host of FOX News' "Media Buzz." Howie, I found the Wolf Blitzer little intro there interesting. I don't recall their constant monitoring of other first lady's numbers. Maybe Hillary when she was doing Hillary-care back in the early '90s. But that seemed to kind of prove Melania's point. HOWARD KURTZ, FOX NEWS MEDIA ANALYST: I'm less upset at reporting of polls showing her numbers are down. More people still like her. INGRAHAM: Is she a political figure? KURTZ: I guess all first ladies are by definition. By Melania is subjected to a particularly brutal kind of treatment and mockery, whether it's Jimmy Kimmel making fun of her accent to all of this media chatter about, well, why didn't she go on this trip with her husband? And did she swat his hand away? INGRAHAM: Is she even living at the White House? Remember that, she's not even living there? KURTZ: Yes, all of which is designed to insinuate, imply, intimate the marriage is horrible. INGRAHAM: Free Melania, the bumper sticker. That's sweet. KURTZ: Right. And she has got a thick skin, but no honor modern first lady has been treated like this. INGRAHAM: Maria Cardona over at CNN actually said this. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARIA CARDONA, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: She has now adopted this woe is me attitude. She says she believes she is the most bullied person that is out there. They don't believe that she has done everything that she can to focus on what's positive out of these huge, negative administration. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What's negative? The press, the administration? Who adds to the negativity here? KURTZ: When Melania does things in her public role as first lady, she is subject to criticism, I think we can agree on that. But she's a pretty private person. She devotes a lot of time to being a mom. And I am just continually stunned, any other first lady -- she's a former professional model, would be on the covers of women's magazines, but of course she is not for ideological reasons, and that bothers me. But I do think she should do more interviews, because she's actually very good at it. INGRAHAM: I agree. I think she should do more. KURTZ: It is a vacuum. INGRAHAM: I don't want to jump on the criticism, but I'm not criticizing. I'm criticizing because we want to see more of her. KURTZ: Right. INGRAHAM: And she's an incredibly gracious, warm, kind person. And I think people, they don't know her. And so they will jump to thinking something -- KURTZ: There is an air of mystery about her. INGRAHAM: Maybe that's it. And again, Michelle Obama could do no wrong. No matter what Michelle did, if it was the school lunches being thrown away. It must not have been very -- it's OK. She's beautiful. Some of it's fine, but I just think -- KURTZ: I think there is some underlying resentment in the media that she doesn't do more public things because we want her as fodder. You know what, it's up to her how much she wants to do publicly and how much she wants to stay behind -- INGRAHAM: I don't think she will be talking to Larry O'Donnell any time soon. Here's his tweet, "The only thing you need to know about Melania is she is a Trump. A Trump by choice." KURTZ: That captures the entire media mindset. INGRAHAM: Do you know what it is? It's despicable. And it's not kind and it's not nice, and it's just plain rude. For all their commentary that Trump is rude, and Trump can get a little hot on Twitter. We all can. He can back off the Twitter a little bit and it would probably be better. But to say that about the first lady -- I thought we were all for women choosing they want to do. Love who you want. Love is love. What happened to that? What happened to that, love is love? You always hear that, but when someone chooses to love someone they don't lie, then they're a horrible person. KURTZ: It's a woman who is not consumed by political ambition, and yet, well, she's married to him, so she must be a terrible person. That's really pretty awful. INGRAHAM: Anyone associated with Trump by extension for the left are terrible people. Howie Kurtz, thank you so much. Great to see you. And how does Stephen Miller react to the suggestion that the White House let a proposal for the wall slip through its fingertips? The senior policy advisor to President Trump here to tell us why those criticisms are wrong. And some breaking news on the chief of staff search. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI, (D) HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: Chuck and I are not in a negotiation. We are not going for the $5 billion for the wall. We simply are not. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now that Democrats have won control of the House, did President Trump's last best chance of getting that wall already slip through his fingers? Earlier this year he came out swinging against a bipartisan immigration bill that would have funded the wall and provided a path to citizenship for DACA recipients, calling it a catastrophe and a giant amnesty. The bill failed, and the wall, well, still not built. Joining me now is Stephen Miller, senior policy advisor to President Trump. Stephen, does the president feel like this is like the sand in the hourglass that slipped through that little tiny hole? STEPHEN MILLER, WHITE HOUSE SENIOR POLICY ADVISER: Not at all. First of all, the bill that you mentioned in the lead-in would have in fact been a total catastrophe and guided interior enforcement permanently forever. We've already built or have underway over 100 miles of the wall. And this stand that we are taking right now with the entire nation watching and, frankly, the whole world watching is a stand that we think we are going to win. INGRAHAM: The fact-checkers say your border wall claim, the president said a lot of it is already built, was not true. MILLER: The fact-checkers -- fact-checkers -- typically are wrong about these things, and they certainly are in this case. INGRAHAM: So is there the new wall? The super-duper new wall? MILLER: There's beautiful 30-foot rock solid bollard steel in the ground. You can go down and look at it. INGRAHAM: But is it up high? MILLER: Thirty feet tall. So unlike the old, you have it in El Centro, for example, you have it in the San Diego area and Calexico, and many other areas, too. But that 30-foot barrier -- INGRAHAM: I'm going there. I'm going to go just do a show from the wall. Maybe I'll sit on the wall when I do it. MILLER: You see the old shorter barrier that predated this administration. You see people climbing over it and throwing human beings over it. You need that 30-foot height. But I just want to say I want to get to the real issue at hand. The Democrats are fighting for illegal aliens. Donald Trump is fighting for American citizens. That's what this whole thing is about. You have covered this better than probably anybody for years. You understand this is about sovereignty. It's about working men and women. It's about safe communities. It's about wages, living conditions, quality of life. This is the battle right now right before our very eyes. We are going to win because Donald Trump is not backing down. INGRAHAM: Jeff Flake outgoing, you'd be surprised to know, Stephen, he disagrees with you. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JEFF FLAKE, (R) ARIZONA: The notion that Democrats have prevented any fix, the last real vote we had on substantial immigration reform was the bipartisan bill that we did in 2013. Every Democrat in the Senate voted for that bill. This notion that is all the Democrats' fault is just wrong. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Is that true? Do Republicans deserve some blame here? We have a lot of Chamber of Commerce type Republicans. I just had a guy from Cato on. He's a nice guy, but they don't want any border. They don't want any enforcement down there. They want the cheap labor. They want a glut of workers so that wages stay down. Now we have a dearth of blue-collar workers and wages are going up. MILLER: If you zoom out, 30,000-foot view, last few decades of American history, there's no question that both parties in America have contributed to unwise foreign policy, unwise trade policy, and unwise immigration policy. Donald Trump came into office and has turned that all around. Getting tough on China on trade, renegotiating NAFTA, cracking down on illegal immigration, dealing with unskilled low-wage migration, reorienting our foreign policy -- all these issues, Laura, that have been affected working people in our country for decades he's turning them around. But the Democrat Party of today, not the Democratic Party of years pass, not the Democratic Party of Bill Clinton in the 90s, the Democrat Party of today is for open borders. INGRAHAM: We know that. They're all for it. But how are you going to get the wall built? How are you guys -- he campaigned on the wall. Mexico is going to pay for it. Mexico is not going to pay for it unless you're going to tell me something tonight I don't know. But -- MILLER: Just the savings from trade alone will fund it. But I'm actually glad you're bringing up funding issues, because just the cost of heroin, just the cost of heroin in our country a year is $230 billion. Just the cost of public benefits for illegal immigrants every year is over $100 billion. INGRAHAM: We did it last night, $18 billion just for health care a year for illegal immigrants. That's paying for most of the wall right there. This is what Chuck Schumer said about the NAFTA payment. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHUCK SCHUMER, (D) SENATE MINORITY LEADER: The president repeatedly promised that Mexico would pay for his unnecessary and ineffective border wall. Well, Mr. President, if you say Mexico is going to pay for the wall through NAFTA, which it certainly won't, then I guess we don't have to. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well? MILLER: First of all, Chuck Schumer was for the wall when he voted for the Secure Fence Act in 2006. And now that the Democrat Party has become the party of open borders and Donald Trump is president, he's against it. Secondly, if chuck Schumer wants to pass legislation saying that we can spend all of our trade savings on border security, that would be great. In the meantime, the savings for the trade deal will offset the cost of the wall, and more importantly than all of that, there wall is going to save American lives. It's going to save American jobs. And it's going to save in the long-term hundreds of billions of dollars. INGRAHAM: You need the asylum reform, right? You need the asylum reform. You've written about this in the past. I've certainly written about it. Without that reform, for people who cross the border with a child or someone who they say as a child that is not a child, then they are still being released, are they not? They're still being released. You can't detain and house everybody because there are too many people. So they are effectively being released by the Trump administration now because we don't have reforms in place. How do we do that with a Democrat House? MILLER: This is going to be one of the defining issues of the next two years heading into 2020. If the Democratic Party follows the path of open borders, then the Democratic Party is going to engage in self-immolation. Donald Trump is fighting for working people and he's fighting to restore the borders around this country that are the essential ingredient for national sovereignty and national success in a way that nobody has who has held that office not only in my lifetime but, frankly, in the history of this country. INGRAHAM: Do you feel like you can go out in public and restaurants in Washington, and do you? MILLER: I have no concerns. INGRAHAM: You don't. So you eat, you're fine. What was that Broadway show going on outside your house yesterday? Do we have a video of it? Raymond said it was -- who was it looking like, Raymond? Was it La Cage aux Folles, or was it -- I don't know. Who is paying these people? And you weren't even there. But you don't have walls, do you, outside your house, really? There's no. MILLER: No. INGRAHAM: Those are the tech people that have walls outside -- MILLER: Ironically, they would have better chance getting jobs if we can implement some of immigration reforms that we've been talking about. INGRAHAM: Very, very, very fun. OK, what is going on with the chief of staff search? Everybody is saying it's a nightmare. I've heard this endlessly, it's a nightmare in the White House. This spirit is bad. Everyone is depressed. They said that a year ago. They said that almost two years ago. Number one, what is the spirit in the White House? MILLER: The spirit is wonderful. Not only the wonderful spirit of this sacred Christmas season, but also the wonderful spirit of getting to work for a leader who is fighting for every day, ordinary citizens, just regular families in every part of the country. You did your segment on opportunity zones earlier. African-American, Hispanic-American, people who don't have powerful lobbies, powerful special interest, who don't have representation in big interview organizations or on boards of corporate companies and large multinational businesses. Just everyday people in this country now have a champion in the White House. And getting to work for a president who fights every day for just normal, everyday citizens is a privilege beyond words. And all the people I work with feel the same way. INGRAHAM: They are going to focus on the seven-year-old who, this horrific story, a migrant girl who died from dehydration after being brought into the country, or her parent brought her. She died. You know the left will focus on that as if that's Republicans' fault for our believing in a border. They play the emotion game, and oftentimes we play the fact game. Facts are very antiseptic. Emotional stories sell the case. MILLER: Immigration is an emotional issue. And it ought to be an emotional issue because it affects people's lives. And if you want to stop the horrors on the northward trek, the rape that occurs, the abuse that occurs, the physical assault -- INGRAHAM: The death. MILLER: And the death that occurs, then for the love of God, fund the border wall. INGRAHAM: Stephen, Chris Christie, chief of staff, that's what we are hearing tonight, could be him. Any comments? MILLER: I'm not going to make any news on the chief of staff announcement. But whoever the president chooses is going to be somebody who shares his vision, who is going to work hard to implement it, and who is going to be a great selection. INGRAHAM: Stephen, thanks for being with us. MILLER: Thank you. INGRAHAM: Have a great holiday season, merry Christmas, whatever the heck you celebrate. Thanks for being with us. All right, you've heard the term "death by 1,000 cuts." Could the Democrats suffered death by 1,000 candidates? Messaging guru Frank Luntz joins us to go through the best and, well, the not so good aspirations for 2020, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DAVID CICILLINE, (D) RHODE ISLAND CONGRESSMAN: We'll have 30 or 40 probably great candidates running for president. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's a lot. CICILLINE: Because everyone recognizes how urgent this moment is in the history of our country. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The concept of quality over quantity may be lost on the Democrats with the prospect of dozens of Democratic presidential contenders ahead of 2020. Does that dilute their overall messaging? Here now, ad guru and GOP pollster Frank Luntz to break down the emerging Democratic power struggle. All right, Frank, I want to begin with what I like to call the long shots to the longish shots. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you running? REP. TULSI GABBARD, (D) HAWAII: I am seriously considering it. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What would stop you? GABBARD: I'm concerned about the direction of our country. REP. ERIC SWALWELL, (D) CALIFORNIA: I actually do see a path. I am considering it. JULIAN CASTRO: Americans are ready to climb out of this darkness. That's why I am exploring a candidacy for president of the United States in 2020. (END VIDEO CLIP) (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Are we back? Swalwell, Gabbard, and Castro, are they doing this because they see a path, or a path to vice presidency, speaking fees, a book deal? What they heck are they saying here. FRANK LUNTZ, POLLSTER: I hadn't seen that video. The first thing I would tell them is do not announce in front of a brick wall. You are not a comedian. This is not that comedy store. That's number one. Number two is get the lighting correct. It looked like he was a hostage somewhere. INGRAHAM: What was that Castro bite? LUNTZ: He should know better. He's been in politics long enough to know that you don't do that. I think the reason they want to do it is you can write books. Your speaker fee doubles for at least the first six months. And look at that list right there. You can't -- INGRAHAM: It makes me dizzy. LUNTZ: There is no frontrunner there. There are twice as many candidates they may run for the Democrats this time as ran for the Republicans two years ago. INGRAHAM: Now, let's move on to another potential battle brewing, this one between Bernie Sanders and Beto O'Rourke. Bernie was asked about his process for another run along with his thoughts on Beto. Note the slight dig. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRET BAIER, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Can a Texas Congressman who lost his Senate bid win your party's nomination for president? SEN. BERNIE SANDERS, (I) VERMONT: I think it's a little bit premature. BAIER: When do we get your decision, whether you're going to do it again? SANDERS: Before I decide that I want to run, I've got to make sure there is that grassroots support. And that's what we're ascertaining. If there is, I'll run. If there isn't, I won't. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So what are your thoughts? LUNTZ: I think you are missing to the most likely person at this point, which is Elizabeth Warren. I know that may frighten you. I know that may frighten a bunch of viewers. INGRAHAM: Oh, dear, it's fine. LUNTZ: I tell them take a look at her takedown of the CEO of Wells Fargo several years ago. It's a seven-minute video on YouTube. I've never seen a committee chairman tear someone apart. He had no idea that he was done. She's an awesome debater. She has more grassroots support than Bernie Sanders does. And even though she's Hillary Clinton's age, she's got a lot more energy, and she's willing to mix it up with -- INGRAHAM: But Beto won that MoveOn.org poll, which is the true grassroots. They are calling him the white Obama. He is handsome. He moves the stage. He's kind of fun, he's energetic. I guess he is smart. LUNTZ: He is Bobby Kennedy. He looks like Bobby Kennedy. INGRAHAM: He does look like him. LUNTZ: And he does the same thing that Kennedy does. He walks onto a basketball court, starts shooting hoops. I think Beto is an absolute frontrunner, one of the frontrunners for the Democrats. INGRAHAM: And finally, now to Joe Biden, someone who many think is the clear favorite, who now I think is no doubt worried about these young upstarts, Frank. He apparently thinks it doesn't matter who the Democrats put up. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can I ask you why you are the most qualified person to take on President Trump? JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: No one should run for president unless they think they are qualified. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And why do you think you can beat President Trump? Why is this your time? BIDEN: I think anybody could beat him. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anybody, anybody on the Democratic side? BIDEN: Any Democrat could beat him. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I just like the gaffe-o-matic that he is. You just pull the string and a series of gaffes come up. OK, Biden? LUNTZ: The Democrats want someone who wants to run. I'm not convinced that Joe Biden wants to run. He's got to show that passion, that commitment. It's a wait and see for him. INGRAHAM: He's a little old to be running. LUNTZ: So is Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders is so old, it takes him an hour and half to watch "60 Minutes." (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: I think Sanders is more fun personally than Biden. But Biden is kind of a nostalgic candidate. Coming up, comedian Jerry Seinfeld weighs in on the Kevin Hart Oscars next. INGRAHAM: It's time for the Last Bite. Comedian Jerry Seinfeld is speaking out about Kevin Hart being pulled into dropping out of the Oscars. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JERRY SEINFELD, COMEDIAN: When you look at that situation, who got screwed in that deal? I think Kevin is going to be fine. But how many -- find another Kevin Hart, that's not so easy. He is a brilliant guy with a movie career, you know?. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Seinfeld has long called out what he sees as a troubling trend of the PC culture creeping into comedy. And a reminder, there hasn't been a replacement named yet, for Hart. Who want it, at this point? That's all the time we have. Shannon Bream and the Fox News@Night. Take it from here, Shannon. Load-Date: December 14, 2018 End of Document Cohen Sentenced to Three Years in Jail; Flynn Asks for No Prison Time; 30 Rocked: MSNBC's Mika Under Fire; MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski insulted Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and only gave a half-baked apology; First Lady Melania Trump visited two military bases to personally greet them this holiday season and give a humongous thanks to all the servicemen and women who bravely do their duty for the safety of all Americans; Mrs. Trump talks about her role as a wife, a mother, and a first lady who need to focus to her goals and not mind those media who bash her husband and their family all the time Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST December 12, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7007 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sebastian Gorka, Jason Chaffetz, Monica Crowley, Tammy Bruce Guests: Melania Trump Body TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST, "TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT": And if I seem out of sorts it it's because there was an invasion on our own set. Sean Hannity, ladies and gentlemen. SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: It's not an invasion. I've been here 23 years and this is an invasion. You own this place now. CARLSON: That's a very good point. HANNITY: Great to see one person, great show as always. CARLSON: Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: And you actually have a calendar, or a time up there that you steal from my show. CARLSON: You actually always 32 seconds -- HANNITY: That is so not true. I'm going to buy you a calculator so we can get this straight. That's her Christmas gift of this year. Great show. Good to see you. CARLSON: Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Welcome to "Hannity." Today, I had the honor traveling with our First Lady Melania Trump as she visited brave us service members on two military bases and aboard the USS George H.W. Bush, many who won't be with their families for Christmas heroes that will protect our freedoms as we enjoy the Christmas holidays. In just moments, we're going to show you the highlights of that interview and an exclusive one-on-one interview with the first lady herself. Please stay tuned. Also, tonight, we're going to bring you the latest on the sentencing of Michael Cohen and we will reveal disturbing details surrounding what is really absolutely shameful treatment of a 33-year veteran of this country, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. Also, over at conspiracy TV MSNBC Liberal Morning Joe -- well, part of that team is in very hot water tonight. We'll tell you why. And also later, a dangerous terrorist on the loose in France. We will bring you an update on that manhunt and some migrants actually from Honduras and now demanding reparations from you the U.S. taxpayers. All right. Buckle up from D.C., the swamp, tonight's breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Today, I was fortunate enough to witness the bravery, the courage, the might of the U.S. military firsthand as I traveled with our First Lady Melania Trump to Joint Base Anacostia and Joint Base Langley, and then to the awe-inspiring aircraft carrier, the USS George H.W. Bush, where I had the opportunity to sit down with our first lady. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Stay true to myself -- you use that term a lot. And why do you expand on that? What does that mean considering -- and I'll ask you about your roots a little bit, but that stuck out to me. MELANIA TRUMP, U.S. FIRST LADY: I do what I think is right. I know I will get the criticism from the public or from the media, but I will do what is right and what I feel it's right for the country and for the people, and that's what I say. I want to stay true to myself, and listen to myself and what to do and what is right, what is wrong, and live a meaningful life every day. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We're going to have that full interview in just a few minutes, along with our highlights of an incredible trip. Wait until you see these planes landing and taking off, it's unbelievable. First, we do have updates on the Mueller partisan witch hunt. Today, Michael Cohen, he was sentenced to three years in prison after he pled guilty to tax evasion, making false statements on a bank loan application, lying to Congress about building -- a building project that never even got off the ground and a questionable campaign finance violation. Notice something missing? No Trump-Russia collusion, none, again. It's also important to note: Michael Cohen does not have a cooperation agreement with federal prosecutors. And meanwhile tonight, another top target of this Mueller witch-hunt, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, is asking a federal judge for leniency and no jail time, he pleaded guilty to lying to investigators but only after legal bills wrecked his family finances, forced this man 33-year veteran, five years of combat to have to sell his home and probably was most likely threatening punitive action against his son and his business partner. He fell on the sword like probably 99 percent of fathers would do. And tonight, we are learning some disgusting new details surrounding how Lieutenant General Michael Flynn was treated by top federal officials. Now, according to Flynn sentencing requests, then deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe pressured then national security advisor Flynn not to have a lawyer present during a seemingly relaxed, oh casual meeting with the FBI, the one that they said he lied at except nobody believed he lied. Flynn agreed to sit down without attorneys present, and was then subsequently charged with lying during that very meeting. Now keep in mind, Andrew McCabe was ultimately fired from the FBI for him lying to the bureau, and he is currently facing no charges. According to FoxNews.com, Flynn's filing also seemingly demonstrates that the FBI took a significantly more aggressive tack in handling the Flynn interview than it did during other similar matters. For example, quote, no one interviewed during the FBI's Clinton email investigation was hit with false statement charges, though investigators believed those witnesses were untruthful, big difference. And so, as we now know, that is called a two-tiered justice system. And by the way, this might be part of the worst part of Flynn's political persecution, the agents interviewing Flynn -- they never thought he lied. That is a such a miscarriage of justice and an abuse of power corruption scandal, one of the biggest in American history as we've been telling you. And, of course, you're not likely to hear about any of this on any other media, especially over a conspiracy TV MSNBC, especially not on the Liberal "Morning Joe" show, where the host literally spent hours every single day trying to outdo themselves, you know, trading insults about Donald Trump and the Trump family and anybody associated with Trump. Now, it's a pretty sad and scary way to start your morning, but today, co- host Mika Brzezinski went too far, use this pretty disgusting slur just before 9:00 a.m. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKA BRZEZINSKI, MSNBC HOST: I understand that Donald Trump doesn't care, Heilemann makes a good point, he doesn't care. But why doesn't Mike Pompeo care right now? Are the pathetic deflections that we just heard when he appeared on "Fox and Friends", is that a patriot speaking or a wannabe dictator's butt boy? I'm dead serious. I'm asking, are these the words of a patriot? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Wow. You question his patriotism? Unbelievable, over the top. And then following the show, on the other part of the issue, and she issued an apology on Twitter about her language. Some bad choice of words. I should have said water boy like for football teams or something like that. Yes, Mika, pretty bad choice of words. But we're consistent on this program. We don't call for boycotts. We don't call for firings of any kind. In fact, when Mika's colleague, MSNBC host Joy Reid, when she was in hot water over homophobic and conspiracy filled blog that she had, we never called for her to be fired or for her show to be boycotted. People do make mistakes. People are not perfect and I think we're all human and I don't believe anybody's career and my honest opinion should be ruined over a stupid mistake. By the way, she's no fan of mine and neither is Liberal Joe and I doubt they would do this for any opinion host here of Fox News. But it's sad to see Trump derangement syndrome claim yet another victim and, of course, there were many warning signs as the anti-Trump vitriol got worse and worse and worse. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRZEZINSKI: It is clear the president is stunningly ignorant. Probably the most ignorant president we will ever have. He's ignorant, he's warped, he's obsessed with money and sex, and he finds his power through those two things. He will be forever remembered as the president who traumatized little children. That's his brand now. He's the president who purposefully traumatized babies and children. Very, almost cavemen like. It's like Fred Flintstone running the country. I don't think he has the moral compass to make a decision based on our own national security. To anybody who works inside the White House, works on the national security team, works in the State Department, at some point, you are working for a president who is not fit to lead, who's going to do something crazy in five minutes one hour, tonight or tomorrow, like what more do you need to hear from him to start thinking 25th Amendment or something else. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We will have more on this later in the show, but first, we need to turn to breaking news in France. Widespread manhunt underway for the gunman in Tuesday's terror attack had a French Christmas market that left at least two dead. Now, the 29-year-old suspect identified right there as Cherif Chekatt allegedly shouting "Allahu Akbar" as he opened fire before escaping from the scene in a taxi. We're also learning tonight he had a long criminal record and he was already on the authorities radar for connections to radical Islam. So far, five other people with alleged ties to the suspect have now been detained and even more frightening is that French authorities admit that he may have already slipped across the border into Germany. We'll keep you updated. We'll pray for the victims, scary times. Make no mistakes: attack like this, all these attacks underscore the need for safety and security like places, oh, at our southern border, where we have caught people with terrorist ties trying to get into this country, where tonight migrant groups are literally, you know, the ones women and children that the media kept telling us about, remember they were trying to march to the U.S. consulate over Tijuana demanding President Trump, either let them into the country or now they want us to pay them fifty thousand dollars in reparations to go home -- pay you to go home so you don't break our laws and don't disrespect our sovereignty. One group organizers are arguing that it may seem like a lot of money to you, but it's a small sum compared to everything the United States has stolen from Honduras. Now, look we all know probably the vast majority of people who come from poor countries with no opportunity no hope for their children and grandchildren are good people, searching for a better life but demanding entry or pay you, or we'll overwhelm your immigration system? There's no way to act, to demonstrate merit to come into this country. It's also a massive security risk as the "San Diego Tribune" is reporting. Thousands of migrants are now unaccounted for, writing, quote: In the group of unaccounted migrants about 3,500 are presumed to have either crossed illegally into the U.S., moved to other Mexican border cities or simply fallen through the cracks. That is why the president is standing firm rightly so on the border wall, forging ahead on keeping his promise to the forgotten men and women of this country to preserve our nation's safety and security first. Remember, a wall will literally help people on both sides be safer. And then, of course, the wall will have a big door and you can come in legally as the president has said. But we do have the right to vet anyone that wants to come into this country because keeping out potential terrorists, human traffickers, drug traffickers, violent cartel members is a huge number-one priority for our national security. All right. We have a lot to get to tonight, including our interview with the first lady. Joining us now, the author of the bestseller "Why We Fight", FOX News national security strategist, Sebastian Gorka. And the author of another bestseller, "The Deep State", FOX News contributor, Jason Chaffetz. I read this about General Flynn. OK, Michael Cohen admitted to these things, I feel sorry for him and his family tonight but he admitted to these acts that he was responsible for. He's changed his position on a lot of issues. Now, the media, they only want to believe the version that helps their narrative. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: Right. HANNITY: That's fine, that's politics. But he was pushed into General Flynn, a 33-year war hero, five years in combat, forced and told, you don't need a lawyer. The FBI doesn't believe he lied and then he's charged with lying anyway because he's bankrupt, can't fight it, in a threatening probably his kid. GORKA: This is classic entrapment, Sean. If you listen to the testimony of the two FBI agents who don't think he was lying, if you look at what we now know about McCabe, who said, you don't need a lawyer, General Flynn, this is just an innocuous discussion. And then what do they do? They trap him in a process crime. Sean, everybody watching this show right now could be trapped in a process crime. I don't care how much of a boy scout you've been, everybody has a faulty memory and you say one thing on Monday when you think you're in a friendly discussion with some fellow patriots, you think FBI agents, and then a week later, two weeks later, you remember it differently, that's it, you've committed a felony because you have quote unquote lied to a federal agents. That's entrapment of General Flynn. And then we compare this to a man who secretly taped his conversations with his client. Think about that. Michael Cohen admitted he's a liar and he's a kind of guy who has no qualms The most sensitive thing a lawyer has is his relationship with his client. That exclusivity, that confidentiality, this man taped conversations with who knows how many clients? One of them is now the president of the United States. I know which man I believe and it's General Flynn. I worked for him in transition. I worked with him in the White House. He is a patriot, Sean. HANNITY: You know, I don't -- Jason Chaffetz, you are like me. We've talked about that. My mom was a prison guard, my dad at court probation. So many people in the NYPD. So, two guys made it to the FBI, deity in my family. They were the highest of the high. Naturally, we are inclined -- we want to help our FBI. But if you're in a situation now and you want to help them and you're risking if you don't remember something properly, remember, he was illegally surveilled, illegally unmasked, they didn't use minimization and they leaked raw intelligence on this man -- nobody cares about the crimes that were committed where they literally had the transcript. So anything that's not perfectly matched up in an interview to the transcript means that's a lie, that's how they're going to view it, 33 years. This is how we're going to treat this man and tell them advise him, don't have a lawyer, what does that tell people that instinctively like us want to help our FBI? Not these corrupt officials at the top, rank and file, good field office FBI agents that are protecting this country. JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, look, my grandfather was a career FBI agent. We have a great affinity for the FBI. But the upper echelon, it is now well-documented the bias and the animus that they had, and we have a great deal of thanks for General Flynn. You're right, 33 years of service. What's also very striking to me, though, Sean, is the difference in the way justice was played out because I was a very key player in what was going on in trying to get to the truth with Hillary Clinton in her email and the transfer of classified information to a non-classified setting, putting people's lives in danger. I mean, real lives in danger. And yet the five people around Hillary Clinton, they all got immunity agreements with no requirement to cooperate with the government, no ability for us, say in Congress or the inspector general's office to make sure that we can go back and get the truth about them. And then you contrast how the FBI was acting with Flynn and Cohen and others and it just doesn't feel like justice is balanced. HANNITY: Where is Horowitz on FISA abuse? Will we ever have an investigation in Hillary and the violation of the Espionage Act? Or -- let's say Dr. Gorka., forget me, Dr. Gorka has subpoenaed emails and he deletes them, wipes his hard drive clean, bust up his devices, is he getting off? I don't think he's getting off. I think he's going to jail. GORKA: I got the wrong last name. HANNITY: I know you support this president. That means there's a double standard. When is that -- where is that justice or do we not have justice or equal application of our laws in America anymore? CHAFFETZ: Well, it doesn't feel like we are having that equal application of justice. I know the inspector general is looking into the FISA abuse. That has expanded and I don't think we're going to hear about it until the spring or so because there's something like a million documents that they're probably having to sift through to get there. Now, once we have that information that the inspector general can't prosecute, we have not had Donald Trump has not had an attorney general for two years. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: -- on all of these other issues -- CHAFFETZ: Well, we should have a special counsel. HANNITY: -- Uranium One -- CHAFFETZ: And we need a real attorney general, yes, both. HANNITY: We gave Putin 40 percent of our uranium and we have to import it. The FISA -- the warrant we're literally a dossier is paid for Dr. Gorka, Russian lies. GORKA: Not only that. I think the biggest story is still out there and that's the unmasking. I mean, we've talked about, what, for six minutes about General Flynn, a patriot, who was trapped by a political use of the intelligence community and law enforcement, we know there are hundreds of Americans who are unmasked by the Obama administration. Why? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And is 100 percent increased rate in 2016. GORKA: Right, and then just before the inauguration, the president says, oh, let's share all of this intelligence with seven times as many agencies as we did before because who knows, maybe we can bring down the presidency. That's what we're talking about, the politicized use, the weaponization of the intelligence community and potentially hundreds of Americans are affected, Sean. HANNITY: You know, let's stay on that, because if we really cared about Russian influence in the election, which is now evolved into -- well, Donald Trump may have committed a felony campaign finance violation with no lawyer is ever going to buy into, intelligent lawyer that is, except for these crazy dumb TV pundits that are way overpaid and just incendiary and their hatred for two years of Donald Trump. So, the question is what we really going to allow somebody who paid for Russian influence with funneled money, interestingly, campaign finance violations, perhaps, to a law firm, laws, legal expense, not true, foreign national, Russian lies fed to the American people, influenced the election and money kickback in a uranium deal that was signed off on -- you can't tell me that that this is about Russia, because if it was about Russia we would be after these issues. They're not after them. It's just like they only cared about Kavanaugh if he did something inappropriate, wrong. But they didn't care about Keith Ellison or Michael Avenatti, they didn't they didn't jump the gun in those cases, which means they really just care about the politicizing of these issues. Isn't that what it's about? CHAFFETZ: Yes. Look, if you -- if you were serious about this, you would go look at Marc Elias. He was general counsel with the DNC. He advised the DCCC. He was involved with Hillary Clinton. He was involved with the campaign. He was involved a Perkins Coie, and he was also involved with the Panetta Group. And so, all of those ties, millions of dollars going overseas to attract this money but you don't even get the sense that anybody is even sniffing into this and it's just that's where people I just think are losing trust, have lost trust in the justice system because that was fundamentally wrong. It's millions of dollars spent to affect an election by engaging foreign entity and foreigners to be involved in that campaign, and there's so much material. And then you hear Mark Meadows talking about how they have whistleblowers on Uranium One and they pass those on to the Department of Justice and -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I interviewed the whistleblower. He literally was in Putin's network in America, referred to Robert Mueller, then FBI director, blackmail, money-laundering, corruption, kickbacks -- CHAFFETZ: Yes. HANNITY: -- bribery, all these things. Last word, Dr. Gorka. GORKA: The president could pardon General Flynn and he'd make a great chief of staff, don't you think? (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: You just got the headline on Mediaite. Well-deserved, good to see. Congrats on the book and same with you, Congressman. All right. We have a lot coming up tonight from D.C. More on the outrageous hypocrisy. Mika Brzezinski under fire tonight, stunning, ridiculous, insane, corrupt and homophobic comments about Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Tammy Bruce, Monica Crowley. And later, you don't want to miss this interview with our First Lady Melania Trump aboard an aircraft carrier in the Atlantic Ocean from earlier today. You don't want to miss this video. It is amazing, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Our interview with Melania Trump in a few minutes. The destroy Trump media, they have sunk to a new low, as we mentioned in our opening monologue tonight. On MSNBC's "Morning Joe" show, co-host Mika Brzezinski was ranting about the U.S. relationship with the Saudis and called Secretary of State Mike Pompeo an anti-gay slur. Watch for yourself. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRZEZINSKI: I understand Donald Trump doesn't care, Heilemann makes a good point, he doesn't care. But why doesn't Mike Pompeo care right now? Are the pathetic deflections that we just heard when he appeared on "Fox and Friends", is that a patriot speaking or a wannabe dictator's butt boy? I'm dead serious. I'm asking, are these the words of a patriot? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Are these the words of a patriot? Really questioning his patriotism? Ms. Brzezinski on the other side of that said she was sorry, tweeting, quote: Totally agree with your super bad choice of words, I should have said water boy like for football teams or something like that. Apologize to Senator Durbin too. So sorry. Here to discuss this left-wing media hypocrisy, FOX News contributor Tammy Bruce, "Washington Times" columnist Monica Crowley. Look, let's be honest, Joe and Mika hate my guts. Fine, I don't hate them, but I just think they're insane. I mean, it is like a train wreck TV every day in terms of they try -- everyone on that show tries to outdo each other with Trump hate, Tammy. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. HANNITY: But I'm not the thought police. I'm not the speech police and something they would never do for a FOX opinion host is say, you know what, stand-up when people try to boycott or stand up when people call for firings, I believe she's probably sincerely sincere in her apology. People do want to destroy her career over this. This is a problem we have in all of media. Maybe if you make a lot of mistakes, at some point, that crosses a line. What's your take? BRUCE: Yes, my column today in "The Washington Times" actually looks at the attacks on Kevin Hart and Mr. Murray who won the Heisman Trophy for remarks made years ago and when, of course, when Mr. Murray was a child. Mika Brzezinski is a middle-aged woman. She knows what she's doing. She's done television for a very long time. She's a sophisticated woman. That is a very specific phrase to use, not even just saying about it whether it's about lifestyle or you use a word when you're a kid, she chose a phrase that was meant to dehumanize. And so, that is going to speak about who she is as an individual, but at the same time, she apologized. Ultimately, she will be given a pass because she's a liberal and as we're as Mr. Murray and Mr. Hart will probably continue to be hounded. That's the difference, is that they will move along and they will be left alone, but others, there will still be an attempt to ruin their careers, to make their lives difficult. That is the problem here. And we've seen it all along. Usually, if you're on the left, you do get a pass, and this is why we can -- we can see this as being a not just hypocritical but a determination to ruin people's lives by the left. I mean, only conservatives are those who are not conforming clearly enough and that's the message they want to send everyone. She'll get a pass in the end on this. HANNITY: And, you know, we see this with other issues involving NBC. The recent firing of Megyn Kelly, for example, for her comments, Monica. But you have people that actually have dressed that way that still have jobs there, she talked about that, the issue she was involved in. And I'm saying, people have a choice and it's -- they don't have to -- we have to do a good show and ask people to come in if we can come into your home and we're honored if we get there. People don't have to watch any one show, except this one, it's the only one. MONICA CROWLEY, WASHINGTON TIMES COLUMNIST: Well, you're pointing to the staggering double standard that's been in place for a very long time, Sean, and the only way it's going to change is by Tammy and you and me and those of us who are essentially targets of it or victims of it to continually to try to expose it. I'm not a fan of the word police. Word police easily morphs into the thought police and that is a very dangerous road to go down. We're very far down that road already and it is a form of tyranny and fascism. So I don't believe anybody should lose a job for misspeaking or for stating something and then apologizing. But that being said, those on the left have a long history of stating anti- gay slurs and anti-gay jokes, and then when they're called on it, they usually try to minimize it, usually with a cutesy kind of tweet as Ms. Brzezinski did today and pray that it goes away. And it usually does go away, because as Tammy points out, they have something not available to you me and Tammy, which is the protection of the mainstream media. So they don't get the pile-on that we do when we misspeak or when we make a mistake, then our lives are ruined and our reputations are tarnished but they get a pass and they are allowed to go forward. That double standard continues to be in place and it needs to be exposed-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know-- CROWLEY: -- if we're ever going to hope to see an end to it. HANNITY: I -- Tammy, what you said about the slur part of it is right, too. Nobody seems to also paid attention of the part. The things they say about Trump there every day. BRUCE: Yes. HANNITY: They speak for themselves. Mike Pompeo is a patriot serving his country. BRUCE: That's right. HANNITY: He's done an amazing job as secretary of state, creating amazing opportunities for peace in the world. Again, hard things to do. Amazing job as our CIA director and I just saying, you are questioning this man's patriotism with abandon. BRUCE: And you know, she was responding on Twitter without apology to a fellow who is a verified blue check, who I think was a photographer who suggested to her that it would have been better if she had called Pompeo a traitor. So, the left would prefer you to be called something that-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: She pretty much did question his patriotism. BRUCE: -- would require an execution, where you should be killed if you are a traitor to the country, that would be the legal punishment, as opposed to a gay slur. We don't want any of that. And look, if you are in media at any point in time, you've said something that you regret and that you do apologize for. Our point here is the hypocrisy on that end. It's their desire to destroy other people under the guise of being a racist, or a sexist or homophobic. My first book lays out how all of that leads on the left. HANNITY: I remember the book, yes. BRUCE: And that they -- and that they apply it to the president specially and that is the name that is supposed to obliterate you. It's the hypocrisy with those individuals who don't even at least tries to live and excised those kinds of phrases from their lives. And I think that's what's worth pointing out. CROWLEY: And you know what, Sean, into the content of what she was saying, set aside the anti-gay slur for a second. She was tarnishing President Trump and his secretary of state for, what? For trying to maintain the alliance with Saudi Arabia as they are trying to develop an anti-Iran coalition which is a very serious and meaningful, substantial foreign policy exercise, OK? But I didn't hear in the eight long years of President Obama, I didn't hear Ms. Brzezinski or Mr. Scarborough talk about President Obama, Secretary Clinton, Secretary John Kerry bending over backwards to align themselves with the Iranian regime of Hashemi and Rouhani and Zarif. That regime is at least as bad as Saudi Arabia on human rights, if not worse. That regime has killed Americans in Iraq and elsewhere around the world and they still target Israel. And so, I didn't hear a peep out of them on that. But here they are attacking Secretary Pompeo and the president for being "traitors," and all manner of, you know-- (CROSSTALK) BRUCE: If I can add. CROWLEY: -- offenses against the United States. I didn't hear them talking to President Obama. BRUCE: A couple -- about a year -- Monica, about a year and a half ago, John Kerry admitted that when we release that $150 billion to Iran, he admitted that some of that would likely be used for terrorism but there was nothing we can do about it. We didn't hear any complaints from the Democrats or Nancy Pelosi or anyone else when those admissions were made. HANNITY: Amazing. BRUCE: And this is where we're at with these individuals, with the left. HANNITY: Thank you both. We appreciate it. Speaking of which, I talked about this double standard and the treatment of the Trump family, my exclusive interview with our first lady Melania Trump conducted on board the USS George H.W. Bush. An amazing day, that's next. HANNITY: All right. Today the first lady Melania Trump traveled to two military bases, and in navy aircraft carrier to meet our troops and thank them for their service this holiday season. Today, during her tour of the USS George H.W. Bush I had a chance to sit down with the first lady. Why is this important? Because while we are enjoying Christmas, many of them won't be with their families. Take a listen. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: First lady, thank you so much for doing this. MELANIA TRUMP, FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES: Sure. HANNITY: So, you said before you came here, I watched you with all the troops today and you said, that this is about our troops, our families who sacrifice daily for our freedoms, our hearts, our prayers are with all of our deployed soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines who will not be home for Christmas. And so, you decided to do this trip. Tell me more about that. TRUMP: Well, I wanted to, and visit the military families and also the servicemen and women. It's very important that we support them. Holidays are coming and not many of them they will be with their families, so for me, it's very important to show them that the president and I and the country, we are behind them. HANNITY: You know it's amazing. So, we are on the USS George H.W. Bush, who recently passed away. They put as many as 5,000 people on the ship. I was watching you as you were watching the plane, the jets come in and out. If we tipped it over, it would be the size of the Empire State building. What do you think when you see this? TRUMP: It's incredible. Even when I flew over here. You see the ship, it's very small, and then you approach and it's really big. It was great to meet some of the -- some of them, some of them who serve here. Now today there are 3,000 servicemen and women on it. HANNITY: Right now. TRUMP: Right now. And I saw the airplanes taking off and landing, and it's incredible what they do. HANNITY: The cost of freedom is high, very high. We forget sometimes, don't we. TRUMP: Correct. HANNITY: Yes. I watched you as you worked the rope line and as you spoke with the family is. It seemed to me that they cling to you and wanted to send you messages, what were they saying to you? TRUMP: They were thanking me for the service, that what I do for them. And I thank them for the service. I guess I see that we have an incredible support out there and they see what I'm doing and that I'm here for them and to support them. HANNITY: Yes. Let me ask you, so, I would say, I told a lot of people I was going to be interviewing you and there was a curiosity about you. I don't know how you take that. But I think a lot of people know your husband was so outspoken, and you've behind the scenes. But you are making it out more. You went on your trip, you went to what, Nigeria, Ghana, Malawi, Egypt. TRUMP: I went to -- yes. I went to the four countries. I started with Ghana and Malawi, Kenya, and Egypt. I did a five-day trip in Africa on all those four countries. It was an amazing trip and they were very happy I came there. And I worked with the U.S. Aid, so we are helping them to become self-reliant. HANNITY: Yes. I noticed in the interviews, one of the things you often say. First you to find yourself in the ABC interview, and I thought it was an interesting question, as a mom, a wife, as the first lady of the United States, and as a friend. Then you talked about, you are confident, you're very focused and you used the term, stay true to myself. You use that term a lot. And want you to expand on that, what does that mean considering, and I'll ask you about your roots a little bit, but that stuck out to me. TRUMP: I do what I think is right, but I know I will get the criticism from the public or from the media, but I will do what is right and what I feel is right for the country and for the people, and that's what I say. I want to stay true to myself and listen myself and what to do and what is right and what is wrong and live meaningful life every day. HANNITY: You talk about that this is temporary, you see it as temporary. Would you want to stay for a second term? TRUMP: I think my husband he is doing an incredible job. The country does best ever. So, yes, I think I want that the country to continue to do well. HANNITY: You come from a small town in Slovenia. And I don't think you've talked a lot publicly about your journey. From that small town to Paris, to all these major cities, from there to New York City. Tell us about that journey. Was it, were parents with you? Were you a model and alone? What was it? TRUMP: After my studies I went into the modeling business, and I lived in Milan in Paris and in 1996, I moved to New York. And then my career, I loved it, and I stayed in New York and here we are today. HANNITY: You -- it's interesting because you are now traveling, but you end up in the biggest city and you told a story about how you met the president. When did you know that he was the one? Did -- was there a moment? TRUMP: We had a great chemistry when we met-- HANNITY: Yes. TRUMP: -- in 1998 and we started dating and, you know, we dated for a long time before we got married. We got married we had a son, but we had great chemistry from the day one. HANNITY: Yes. Did you -- was there a moment that you realized, wow, small town Slovenia, now I'm the first lady of the United States and I'm living in the White House. Is there a moment that you realized, this is real? TRUMP: It's incredible, especially when you think about it, your life and where you were born, and all the steps you took. I took a lot of steps. It's just not like you end up here, you learn a lot on the way here. In my business, and fashion business, it's a tough business as well. Here, the politics, it's as well, it's tough business. You need to have very thick skin. HANNITY: Yes. What's been the hardest for you since you become first lady? What's been the hardest thing that you have to deal with? TRUMP: I would say the opportunists who are using my name or my family name to advance themselves, from comedians to journalists, to performers, book writers. HANNITY: Does it hurt? TRUMP: It doesn't hurt. The problem is they are writing the history and it's not correct. HANNITY: And especially when the speculation about you and your family and your marriage. TRUMP: Right. HANNITY: And you've addressed that in past interviews. TRUMP: Yes, I did. And you know, some -- they like to focus on the gossip and I would like to that they focus on the substance and what we do, not just about nonsense. HANNITY: What was it, you said when if he ran, you know -- you knew he would win? TRUMP: I told-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Why did you know? TRUMP: I told him, you know, if you run because I knew him and I knew how he connects with the people, he built an incredible business, and his mind is into the business, and it to America great and successful. So, I saw how he connects with the people so that's why I said, I know if you run, you will win and it's a possibility. HANNITY: I know people want to know this. Do you often weigh in on the issues of the day with the president? I know you do watch a lot of news, you are very aware of what's going on, what do you think in terms of -- what can you -- insight could you give us, may be a better way to ask it, is to how when you feel strongly about something that you would relay that to him? TRUMP: I wish to have to time to watch more news, but I don't. HANNITY: You don't? I hope you watch Hannity. (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: I don't. I'm very busy with my office and traveling and doing my work. Yes, I watch you and I sometimes also tape the shows and if I have the time, I watch it. But I know exactly what's going on, I follow what's going on, and I give my husband advice and my honest opinion. Sometimes he listens and sometimes he doesn't. HANNITY: If I look at the two of you, and I know the two of you pretty well, I've known him for a very long time, I don't think there could be two different styles. He fights, he's combative. You've discussed the issues of tweeting and social media, and you've even said that you asked him to tone it down a little bit, how did that go over? TRUMP: Well, you could see it. HANNITY: Meaning it's not working. OK. TRUMP: I don't agree with his tone sometimes and I tell him that. So, as I said before, sometimes he listens and sometimes he doesn't-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Have you ever stop him like he was going to say something and you said-- TRUMP: I said, I said to him, you know, I don't think you need to tweet that out. HANNITY: Yes. TRUMP: But on the end it's his decision, he knows the consequences. He's an adult, you know, but he is a fighter. He is a fighter. HANNITY: You know, it's interesting because you saw the exchange, I assume yesterday with him-- TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: -- and Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, and I give my commentary on it. I said that's what America elected. TRUMP: Correct. HANNITY: Somebody that fights hard for promises. TRUMP: Correct. HANNITY: What do you, what would you want America to know about him behind the scenes that maybe they don't see, or no. That may be the media would never portray about him? TRUMP: That he is fighting for the America and American people every day. Every day. He wants to govern he right way and sometimes it's tough because you could see the media wants to bash and focus on negativity. (END VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: And we have an amazing part two of the interview with our first lady that will air tomorrow night. But when we come back, you are going to watch all these behind-the-scenes footages of Mrs. Trump visiting with our troops. Very inspiring, wait until you see it. One of the best tapes I think we've ever put together, next. HANNITY: Part two of my interview with the first lady Melania Trump tomorrow. She traveled to two military bases. And we took the interview at the USS George H.W. Bush aircraft carrier. She wanted to thank the troops that they have served us. They will be separated, many of them, this holiday season, separated from their loved ones. Here is some incredible behind-the-scenes footage. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) TRUMP: Many of you have recently returned home from deployment. I'm honored to be able to say welcome home, and thank you for answering the call of duty. We know that we are free because you are brave. And I speak on behalf of my husband when I tell you, we are forever grateful for your service. The president and I thank you for all that you do. After we leave here, we will be flying to the USS George H.W. Bush aircraft carrier to visit with the crew on board. That stop will not only allow me to visit with more members of our military but it will be very meaningful after the recent passing of President Bush. I want to let you all know that the president and I are so grateful and have unconditional appreciation for all that you do. Hello, everyone. I'm very honored to be here with you today. Thank you so much for your service and your sacrifice. Thank you all for keeping us all safe and free. The president and I, we are very proud of you, and we wish you a merry Christmas and a happy and healthy new year. God bless you. God bless your families. And may God bless the United States of America. (END VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: When we come back, we are going to give you a preview of some incredible part two moments that we will be showing you tomorrow night. That's next. HANNITY: All right. Programming announcement. Tomorrow night make sure to tune in 9 Eastern. We'll be airing part two of our exclusive interview with the first lady of Melania Trump as she gets very personal about, talking about her son, the unrelenting attacks against her and her family. Very personal moment. Again, part two of my interview tomorrow night at 9 Eastern right here on Fox. Let not - we're always fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. And yes, the left is going to go crazy. And let not your heart be troubled. Laura is right next door. Load-Date: December 13, 2018 End of Document Democrats' False Claims On Border Security While Being Determined To Block The Funding For A Border Wall; The Senate Judiciary Committee Never Submitted To DOJ The Inquiry About Blasey Ford's Letter Being Leaked; Analysts Examine Testimony Of Brett Kavanaugh Accusers; President Trump And Mike Pence Meet With Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer In Oval Office; Hillary Clinton And John Kerry Attend Wedding in India; Interview With Rep. Devin Nunes (R), California Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST December 12, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8654 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Kris Kobach, Scott Levenson, Victor Davis Hanson, Carrie Severino, Scott Bolden, Helgi Walker, Devin Nunes Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: A very personal moment. Again, part two of my interview tomorrow night, 9:00 eastern right here on Fox. Let not -- we are always fair and balanced. We are not destroy-Trump media and yes, the left is going to go crazy. And let not your heart be troubled. Laura is right next door. Laura? LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: You are right through that door and I guess you can't walk over here and come here because the corridor is -- HANNITY: I did that the last time. And you know what, nobody knew what I was doing and like everyone was surprised because you made me go over. INGRAHAM: I know, but you just can't walk over? You can't just come over. HANNITY: Do you want me to walk over? INGRAHAM: Yes, just for a second. HANNITY: Is that possible? INGRAHAM: Yes, just walk over and -- HANNITY: OK, just for a second. Hannity gets a second. INGRAHAM: -- Hannity's going to walk over. OK, this is exciting T.V. Let's see how long it takes us. Do we have the "Jeopardy" theme music? HANNITY: OK, I got it. I'm walking over. INGRAHAM: OK. His MP's going to have to connect them when he comes in. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's got a mic. INGRAHAM: Oh, he has microphone? He has wireless mic? See, we don't have - - M.P., we don't have wireless mics in our studio. We do? I feel like I am hooked up all the time. There is no freedom of movement. HANNITY: -- fell. That would have been great T.V. INGRAHAM: Hannity, what I don't understand is, like, I don't get wireless mics. How do you get -- how do you get a wireless mic? Is that more expensive? You are the star. HANNITY: I'm a grandpa here. I've been here 23 years. How long you've been here? INGRAHAM: A long time. HANNITY: So I walked into the makeup room today and what's the first thing you do? Oh, you only have three jokes in your repertoire. Oh, you're this, oh, and you get to interview Melania. INGRAHAM: Ingraham. All my friends say can he pronounce your name right before the end of the New Year? I said I don't think so. HANNITY: OK, why do you not -- you call me all sorts of names. INGRAHAM: I don't call you names at all, Hannitied. Hannities. OK, I have a serious thing. I loved watching your interview with Melania. She has been maligned and ridiculed and unfairly attacked from almost day one, before they got into the White House. HANNITY: Here is the most amazing thing. She's been independent since traveling around the world -- school, a world of modeling which is extraordinarily tough -- and English is her fifth language, not her first, second, third, or fourth. And more importantly, she has the same passion. Look, the president who I know really well and supports and I believe is treated unfairly, that president -- doublespeak in my ear -- that president works day and night for the country and we've had success. And she too works day and night and I've never seen such an abuse of an entire family like I've seen here. Not only that, the full power of the deep state, Democrats, media, it's unrelenting. INGRAHAM: And there are frothing at the mouth now because they think they -- they think they are cornering their prey and they him right where they want. And I can say the American people are so much smarter than the folks over at the other cables. The folks who are constantly maligning good people and the set up from the beginning -- the more I look at this and I'm getting this tonight, Hannity. The set up from the beginning and you touched on it with Michael Flynn, is appalling what they did to Michael Flynn. It's 32 years. HANNITY: This is how we treat our veterans. INGRAHAM: It's disgusting. I'm going to say it's disgusting. HANNITY: But I will tell you this, mark my words. It won't take long. They are so nuts in Nancy Pelosi's Congress. They are going -- here's my prediction. By month one, you will see the insanity of how extreme this party is coming out and it's going to be -- it will be -- watch Donald Trump's numbers go higher than they've ever been. INGRAHAM: They always take it a step too far. So you have part two tomorrow? HANNITY: Yes. I honestly -- being on that helicopter today watching those planes come in, land and takeoff, watching how the people gravitated towards her. One thing I didn't say which is true, her approval rating is higher than the presidents, and he is so competitive that I can just imagine that (inaudible). INGRAHAM: No, it's great. I can't wait for the story. HANNITY: Thank you. INGRAHAM: Thanks for coming to D.C. and I'm glad you did the interview. HANNITY: From now on, I'm just coming in here in the break. INGRAHAM: Yes. Just do the show from here. It's more fun. HANNITY: But they won't let me do the show here because it's your studio. You have to prepare. That's if they (inaudible) INGRAHAM: By the way, your studio the other night -- I did my show (inaudible). Could you import our graphics next time because they were like oh, no, we can't import your graphics. I mean, everyone is trying to do their best -- They're going to kill me. I was like, this is Hannity's studio. I almost did like itching powder. HANNITY: This is too many Hannities for me. INGRAHAM: It's like itching powder on a seat -- I was going to do something but they wouldn't let me. Anyway, Sean -- HANNITY: Have a great show. INGRAHAM: Have a good trip back. All right my friend. HANNITY: Great to see you and Merry Christmas. INGRAHAM: Merry Christmas. No Grinch for you. All right everybody, it's a long lead-in. The whole show is going to have to change now. All right. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington tonight. It was one of the biggest stories of the year and there are still many outstanding questions. Tonight THE INGRAHAM ANGLE will bring you an update on the Kavanaugh fallout. Is there reallty an investigation into who leaked Christine Ford's letter? What about the criminal referral submitted to the DOJ over false testimony by Michael Avenatti and Julie Swetnick? You be better not going to let go of that answers ahead. Plus, extortion at the southern border. What folks in the caravan are now demanding of President Trump. Hint, it' is not asylum. Raymond Arroyo is also here to break down the body language inside yesterday's Oval Office slugfest between President Trump and of course Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. I guess that's (inaudible). And by the way, a look at the outrageous new Dick Cheney movie coming up in "Seen and Unseen." And Devin Nunes will be here to tell you why the Democrats ending corruption probes at the FBI is very bad news for the country and what we can do about it. But first, immigration truths the Democrats deny. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Congressmen and senators are supposed to be fighting for the American people, their constituents. But when Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer pounced on the president on the Oval Office yesterday, for whom exactly were they fighting? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: We have a disagreement about the wall, whether it's effective or not. Not on border security but on the wall. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You cannot have very good border security without the wall. REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA: That is specifically not true. That's a political promise. Border security is a way to effectively honor our responsibility. SCHUMER: And the experts say you can do border security without a wall which is wasteful and doesn't solve the problem. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Who was Chuck Schumer looking at in that clip? By the way, we have a very fascinating body language expert analysis of that entire exchange coming up in the show. Back to this, both the Senate and the house oath of offices are nearly identical. They begin like this, "I do solemnly swear or affirm that I will support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same." At this point, are we even sure that Chuck and Nancy took the oath? I have a news flash for the dynamic duo. When migrants illegally cross our borders, whether they come to work or to collect welfare, using false documents, whether they come to deal drugs or join murderous gangs that are already here, this does constitute a foreign enemy action. That's why Trump was so clear at the end of that Oval Office exchange yesterday. He understands the threat, and he wants to answer it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: If we don't get what we want, one way or the other, whether it's through you, through a military, through anything you want to call, I will shut down the government. SCHUMER: OK, fair enough. We disagree. TRUMP: And I am proud and I tell you what. SCHUMER: We disagree. TRUMP: I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It's that important for him. But the Democrats are determined to block Trump's efforts to fortify the border and you can see them. They recoil at any border wall talk. Here are the facts. The Democrats are willing to sell out the country, law and order be damned, in order to deny Trump a victory over the wall. A few years ago, they were all for fortifying the border but not now. Of course, if we had a media that publicized actual facts on illegal immigration and other immigration issues rather than obsessing 24/7 about Michael Cohen or focusing on a few really sympathetic people in Tijuana, well, we would have a lot more Democrats feeling the pressure on this issue from the voters. Check this out. A new Gallup world poll found that nearly 160 million people around the world want to emigrate to the United States -- 160 million. I bet it's more than that. Naturally, the U.S. is the top destination for immigrants, 21 percent of them would like to come here permanently. How are we supposed to deal with that kind of demand for access to our shores? Obviously we can't absorb half of our current population, or is that actually what the Democrats want? After all, that would be an entirely new country. The pragmatic position here, my friends, is simple. There must be an orderly, legal process, one that protects the interests of the American people first when it comes to immigration. Most Americans I really think have no idea of the true cost of illegal immigration. Again, the media will not report it. Let's look at health care. Even though illegals are forbidden access from federally funded health care, "Forbes" magazine estimates that 3.9 million uninsured illegals receive about $4.6 billion in health services from the federal government, federal taxes -- 2.8 billion from state and local taxpayers goes to illegal immigrants. And 3 billion from higher payments by insured Americans. In other words, you are paying it because your costs are jacked up. All told, Americans cross subsidize health care for unauthorized immigrants to the tune of $18.5 billion a year. Now with that money, we could build a triple wall with all sorts of cool, you know, stuff on it along the border. Come on, $18.5 billion? The president knows well that our lose asylum loss, another issue, the catch and release policy, chain migration, have also acted as magnets and that has ballooned our illegal immigrant population. Once in country, they place an enormous stress on local law enforcement. As I said, health care providers and our schools, resources that should be benefiting Americans and legal immigrants. This money should be spent on our people and the people who have respected our laws to come here. Not on noncitizens who are illegally present. Here's a perfect example. According to government data released yesterday afternoon, in President Trump's first fiscal year in office, more than 2,304 people were arrested for either employing illegals or working illegally in the country. That's a 700% increase from the previous fiscal year. Now, this is all a direct result of Trump authorizing ICE to investigate all crime committed by or with illegal immigrants and not just focusing of course on the most serious cases. Well, Democrats are going to say why is the government arresting hardworking immigrants? They are just seeking a better way of life. Well, this is a simple twofold answer. One, they are not here legally. But two, and just as important, they are taking jobs that hardworking Americans do not have access to. We cannot incentivize corporations to use cheap labor, giving them an unfair advantage and destroying other company's abilities to compete. The crackdown also by the way sends a message to the next wave of illegals. You too will be deported if you try to come here and work without permission, and of course collect all those benefits along the way so, don't even try. Now my friends, this is Christmas time. And although the country is doing better, a lot better, under Trump, many Americans are still hurting particularly those entering the workforce for the first time. Single mothers and people without college degrees, many happen to be black and Hispanic. They don't have groups by the way like Pueblo Sin Fronteras or Central Sin Fornteras working on their behalf, filing cases on their behalf. Of course, as the competition from the cheap illegal labor harms their chances of employment. Who is going to advocate their cases? Democrats use to claim that they cared about our poorest citizens, the little guy. But this year, Chuck and Nancy seem more like the Grinch, making promises to the illegals. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) THE GRINCH: There is a light on this tree that won't light on one side, so I'm taking it home to my workshop, my dear. I will fix it up there. Then I will bring it back here. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, sure, give all the goodies to the illegals and leave the poor and the working-class to pick up the bill. And by the way, take their tree, without so much as a lump of coal in their stockings. Let's hope that Trump is successful before Christmas in getting the wall-funded and let's hope Congress finally gets its act together and remembers the meaning of that oath that they all took. Otherwise, the Grinch may get his way or her way. And somehow I don't think this will happen to her at the end of the story. And that's THE ANGLE. Every time I see the Grinch, I'm just so happy. Isn't it the best Christmas special ever? Here now to react, Kris Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State and Scott Levenson, Democratic strategist, president of The Advance Group and Victor Davis Hanson, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and author of the forthcoming book, can't wait, "The Case for Trump." All right, Scott, as I just laid out in my ANGLE, the burden of emigration every day on every day Americans, illegal immigration, is pretty stark. So, why don't the Democrats seem to ignore the cost borne by the average working person? SCOTT LEVENSON, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: What they actually do is recognize the fearmongering that's gone on for months. And this fear that's been created by the Trump administration -- INGRAHAM: So you will not answer the question. LEVENSON: -- if you could just let me finish the thought, Laura. INGRAHAM: No, no, Scott. Don't roll your eyes. It doesn't make you any more effective. LEVENSON: -- as my first thought out. The fact is, not that it's just -- well, no, it doesn't. If you just let me finish the thought, I can -- INGRAHAM: My question, Scott. You did this last time. You bugged the heck out of everybody. LEVENSON: -- because no, what you do is you do fearmongering. INGRAHAM: No, no. We're not fearmongering. It's a question. LEVENSON: Fear the caravan. Fear the (inaudible), the caravan is coming. INGRAHAM: No, no. We didn't talk. We talked about a lot more than the caravan, Scott. LEVENSON: Oh, you want to talk about the money. All right, Laura, you want -- let's talk about the money. INGRAHAM: OK, I want everybody to see this right off the top. LEVENSON: Let's talk about the money. INGRAHAM: I want everyone to see this right off the top. LEVENSON: Let's talk about the money. INGRAHAM: This is what Democrats do. I asked a simple question. LEVENSON: Let's talk about the money. INGRAHAM: Scott, I'm going to give you a chance in three minutes, you're going to have three minutes to think about your answer and then I'm going to come back to you. OK, three minutes. LEVENSON: Well, I'm ready. Let's go, Laura, right now. INGRAHAM: OK, three minutes and then you come back. LEVENSON: Oh come on, don't run now. INGRAHAM: I will go to Victor Davis Hanson. LEVENSON: OK, of course. INGRAHAM: Victor, you've written about this, where liberals refuse to exchange in a substantive dialogue. What are we going to do with a limited pool of money that we have with all of the problems that they admit and they claim that we have in the country? What do we do with the limited pool of money? VDH? VICTOR DAVID HANSON, SENIOR FELLOW, HOOVER INSTITUTION: We take more immigrants than any country in the world. Twenty percent of all the immigrants in the world come to the United States. We have more than we've ever had, 50 million, and we are getting to the percentage wise. It's an unprecedented in our history. So we are very magnanimous. And $75 billion go to Central America and Mexico in remittances. And if you do the math, it works out to about $6,000 to $7,000 per person here who is undocumented, and that's 500 or 600 a month and 60 percent of people here are undocumented are on state assistance or federal or local. So Laura, you're basically asking the American taxpayer to subsidize remittances that goes back. And that's in addition to about $2 billion in direct aid and we have over 500 sanctuary cities where the immigration laws are not applied. And we don't do that to American citizens. If you disagree with EPA regulations or gun registration, you can't set up a sanctuary gun city and say you know what, federal laws don't apply to us. And you know, it's sad because people should -- if they have social justice questions, march on Mexico City or Guatemala City, not San Diego. And I think we really need to recalibrate the morality of all of this because we have this idea that we are the victimizers and people trying to break in are the victims, but if you actually look at it, as you said, American citizens have competition for low-wage jobs, entry wage jobs, our social services are swamped. And then there's literally millions of people all over the world that play by the rules, Nigeria, South Korea, India, and all they want is a chance to be a legal immigrant on meritocratic basis. INGRAHAM: A fair chance. Fiarness. All right, We are going to go back to Scott. Scott, you heard my initial question. You heard Victor Davis Hanson. I will give you a chance now to answer the question because we love having you on. Go ahead. LEVENSON: So it's as if we are in a three-card Monte game. If we talk about how much the immigrants are costing this country, we will forget the fact that this president committed to having Mexico pay for this wall that he wants. Nobody is talking today about how Mexico is no longer playing for the wall yet we are all concerned about the cost - - INGRAHAM: OK, so you are still not answering the question. This is your second chance. LEVENSON: -- of immigration but we don't talk about the fact that the president committed to having Mexico build the wall. INGRAHAM: OK. So Scott, you are making our points for us. LEVENSON: Laura, does that cause not concern you? Does that cause not concern you? INGRAHAM: Well, a lot concerns me. You know what, one thing concerns me. The fact that I've given you two bites at the apple in your passed each one. LEVENSON: But wait, the cost of the wall. And you won't answer about the cost of the wall. INGRAHAM: No, I said multiple times on the show. You obviously missed it. That Mexico is not going to pay directly for the wall, but Mexico will not pay for directly for the wall. But I will tell you what. But I will tell you what, Scott. LEVENSON: No one is talking about Mexico paying for the wall, Laura. No one's talking about the president -- INGRAHAM: You don't want a wall. You want open borders and you won't answer the questions. You missed your chance. It's three strikes your out. Kobach go ahead. LEVENSON: Well if you listened to, if we listened to Schumer and Pelosi, both talked about -- both talked about -- INGRAHAM: Listen, let him to talk all show because we'll just get more Republican registrations. Go ahead. Go ahead. You take them all in, Scott and you take them in your house and I will be impressed. Go ahead. LEVENSON: Anytime. KRIS KOBACH, KANSAS SECRETARY OF STATE: There are three -- there are three major losers when we have unbridled illegal immigration right now. The first as has been mentioned, is the American worker because not only are those jobs taken, you also have wage depression as Jorge Borja (ph) says as mentioned and has written about extensively. So the American worker still in those areas are working for lower wages. Secondly, the taxpayer. The total amount, net, even if you take into account the taxes illegal aliens pay, the total amount that we taxpayers are on hook for every year is over $100 billion if you get state expenditures and federal expenditures. And then the third category of people who lose are the victims of the thousands upon thousands of illegal alien committed crimes and as President Trump pointed out in the discussion yesterday, there is the terrorism risk as well. He mentioned 10 terrorists who have come across the southern border. Actually there than 15 publicized cases and it's probably much higher than that because there are many that we didn't catch. So, we have a very real cost in terms of our security, our jobs, and our tax burden. INGRAHAM: Victor, there are about 40,000 to 50,000 American veterans of all races and backgrounds including illegal immigrants who are sleeping on the street on any given night and some about two blocks from where we are right here because there's not enough room in the shelter near us and so they are on the street. I think most Americans, if we have extra cash, extra money, they serve their country. They shouldn't be on the street. We should do something for those people. We all want that. But in this case, the money drives and flows to individuals. God bless them. Everybody is a child of God, but violated our laws. LEVENSON: Laura, you have created the fear of sun (ph) that doesn't exist. INGRAHAM: And so Victor -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Again, liberals don't even know when the question is being directed at them. I will get to you. Hold on. Victor, the question is why has the shift occurred in the Democratic Party? Twelve years ago, Obama and Schumer were all gung-ho on the triple fencing. Now, you can't get them to talk about it. Why? HANSON: No. It's simply a matter of numbers because when we had two or three people here -- two or three million people illegally, then they thought it was an issue that unions were really angry about and they were worried about low-wage constituencies in the inner-city and Americans. And then suddenly, when we got up to 11 million or maybe 20 million people and we have children, we have 50 million immigrants (inaudible) when you count their children, we are up to 88 to 90 million people. And one out of every four Californians wasn't born in the United States. And then it became a demographic issue and a political issue. So, Nevada flipped. I will be frank, California is never going to be red again. Nevada is not going to be red, Colorado is not going to be red. INGRAHAM: And also demographic -- to get to the point, VDH, it's about changing the demographic makeup of the country which they hope will change the electoral makeup of the country, period. Is that cynical? HANSON: No, it's two things. Political power and money. It's employers who want cheap wages and it's governments oversee that want $75 billion in remittances. And remember, they asked very poor people to send back money and be subsidized by the American taxpayer (inaudible) (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Yes. We should all be taxed, 50 percent taxes. This is when I wish I could have you all for an hour. Thank you so much. Great panel. And by the way, it really was the story of the year and we are staying on it because there are still outstanding questions and my question is why isn't anyone asking them? Up next, we examine the re-emergence of Christine Blasey Ford and bring you exclusive updates about where the investigation stands on that leaked letter from Feinstein's office. INGRAHAM: It was a confirmation battle that captivated the nation just over two months ago and there are still many unanswered questions. Justice Brett Kavanaugh had his name dragged through the mud over still uncorroborated claims. Despite that reality, Christine Ford remains a media darling, resurfacing for the first time since her public testimony to deliver this message while handing out an award for "Sports Illustrated." (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRISTIN BLASEY FORD, PROFESSOR, PALO ALTO UNIVERSITY: The lasting lesson is that we all have the power to create real change and we cannot allow ourselves to be defined by the acts of others. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Her re-emergence has led us to dig back into this case, specifically whatever came of the investigation we were led to believe would be launched into the leaking of her initial letter to Senator Feinstein's office. A senate staffer tells THE INGRAHAM ANGLE" exclusively tonight that the judiciary committee never actually submitted the leaked inquiry to the DOJ for investigation. It's unbelievable. Moreover, there is no word tonight on whether any individual offices are investigating it. My question is, we all had to go through that. The Kavanaughs had to go through that. Don't the American people deserve some answers on how it all got started? To help us unpack it all, we are joined by Helgi Walker, former colleague of Kavanaugh in the White House Counsel's Office and Carrie Severino, the Judicial Crisis Network and Attorney Scott Bolden, former D.C. DNC chair. Carrie let me start with you. What could be the reason behind no formal leak investigation having been launched despite what we were promised? CARRIE SEVERINO, JUDICIAL CRISIS NETWORK: Well, it's really discouraging because obviously this is a serious breach of Senate procedure of, you know, someone -- all we know is Senator Feinstein's office had it. INGRAHAM: Walk us through what happened again. SEVERINO: So the letter was sent to Congresswoman Eshoo, right? She gave it then to Senator Feinstein. So as far as we know, those two offices plus obviously Blasey Ford's lawyers themselves were the only ones who had this letter. Not exposing it was the reason that excuse that Senator Feinstein gave for not actually giving it to the FBI and doing what they should've done initially which is what they did with Justice Thomas, saying hey, let's actually look into this and have them do it in a professional, confidential manner to preserve everyone. They didn't do that. It got leaked to the media in, you know, all sorts of suspicious timing et cetera. Feinstein herself when asked during the hearings didn't seem to be. She was like well -- INGRAHAM: She turned around. Remember, she turned around. SEVERINO: No one here -- I think, you guys didn't leak it, did you? I mean -- INGRAHAM: That was so phony baloney. SEVERINO: Clearly she had done her due diligence, right? INGRAHAM: Yes, that was choreographed. SEVERINO: So I mean, this was a real problem that they'd be leaking this. So someone here among the Democrats or her own lawyers was doing something she said she didn't want and caused this huge national blow up. We need to get to the bottom of it. INGRAHAM: Well, it's criminal. It is criminal to do this. You cannot do what they did under the rules of the Senate. Scott, it doesn't matter if it happens to a Republican or a Democrat. Without rules in place to safeguard the entire process and also an individual's innocence, I mean, presumption of innocence, anyone can come forward with any allegation at the 11th hour and sink a nominee, whether it's a Democrat nominee or Republican. SCOTT BOLDEN, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, on this case, Senator Feinstein, her response initially was that she wasn't authorized to release it to anyone. Protocol would have said you should have but Senator Grassley is the one that said that it would be investigated. Why don't you register a complaint with his office, with the Senate. INGRAHAM: Oh, we are, we are. We are. No one else is. BOLDEN: And let's get to the bottom of that because the certainly didn't want to get to the bottom of the truth in regard to the Kavanaugh hearings. So, I'll back you on that. INGRAHAM: Yes, yes, yes. All right, well Helgi, this is what -- remember what Blasey Ford herself said at the hearing about wanting this to be, you know, handled confidentially. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) FORD: My hope was that providing the information confidentially would be sufficient to allow the Senate to consider Mr. Kavanaugh's serious misconduct without having to make myself, my family, or anyone's family vulnerable to the personal attacks and invasions of privacy that we have faced since my name became public. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Helgi, that was a very poignant moment during the hearings, and she had that point, to many Americans, was extremely sympathetic. But who was to blame for that? And what was the motivation for conducting themselves as they did, whether Eshoo's office or Feinstein's office. I don't really think it was Dianne Feinstein herself. She's not a stupid person. She wouldn't do that. But someone did it with the thought of needling this investigation forward at this moment. HELGI WALKER, FORMER COLLEAGUE OF JUSTICE KAVANAUGH: Someone did it with the thought of pushing this into the public realm against Dr. Ford's own wishes, as Carrie said. And I think they were members on the Democratic side of the aisle, of the Judiciary Committee, probably staffers. And we still don't know the answer to any of these questions. And the consequences were serious, as you said. Motivations were blatantly, transparently political to do anything they could to stop Brett Kavanaugh from becoming a Supreme Court justice, and luckily that failed. Luckily, as Senator McConnell said, the mob did not win, and sitting here today, I think that's even more true than ever, thank God the mob didn't win. BOLDEN: If the allegations were true, then he shouldn't be on the Supreme Court. So it's pure conjecture to say someone on the Democratic side leaked it. INGRAHAM: If you beat your wife two weeks ago but there's no one who saw it, should you be sitting here? (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: There was no corroboration. That's why the whole thing fell apart. BOLDEN: Are you serious? Just because you can't prove it or corroborated doesn't mean it didn't happen. INGRAHAM: Is that what you want to do with Supreme Court nominations? This is going to be fun when the Democrats are back in. Can't wait. BOLDEN: It was credible, it was substantial. Even Republicans said it was. Doesn't mean it didn't happen. INGRAHAM: Yes, $647,000 was raised in GoFundMe before it was closed. And the Blasey Ford teams said that they used the money to protect ourselves against frightening threats, including physical protection and security for me and my family and to enhance the security for our home. Any unused donations after the completion of security expenditures will be donated to organizations that support trauma survivors. Any thoughts? That's a lot of money. That's a lot of protection. SEVERINO: She is certainly not the only one has gotten threats. I know the Kavanaughs have gotten extensive amounts of threats on this. And again, this didn't have to happen. INGRAHAM: And they donated. They didn't take their money, right? SEVERINO: No, but that $600,000 goes a long way towards security enhancements, I'm sure. But thankfully she didn't have to pay for lawyers in that, too, because that was all donated. WALKER: None of it connected by some of the Democrats on the -- SEVERINO: The bottom line is it didn't have to happen. If they had not leaked it -- INGRAHAM: Wasn't McCabe's lawyer, Andrew McCabe's lawyer her lead counsel, I believe? Am I getting that right? It's all one tangle. All right, panel, there's more digging we did, though, because Ford wasn't the only one to bring unsubstantiated claims. We also learned tonight that no official process has begun with those criminal referrals initiated on Kavanaugh accuser Julie Swetnick or her attorney, Michael Avenatti. All Chuck Grassley did was send referrals to investigate them for allegedly making false statements to the Judiciary Committee but nothing has been done or made public since. Helgi, your reaction. How much is there to investigate here? WALKER: There's nothing to investigate because Julie Swetnick has pretty much admitted that this was all made out. These supposed corroborating witness she had, Avenatti submitted her declaration. She came forward to not a conservative media outlet and said he twisted her words. He made it out. It's pretty much a clean-cut case that this was fabricated. BOLDEN: That doesn't mean it was fabricated. INGRAHAM: On October 1st, let's put up the graphic, guys. These are Julie Swetnick's, some problems she has. October 1st, 2018, she told NBC her Kavanaugh story and account. The account deviated from her affidavit. And then of course her ex-boyfriend, just for good measure, said she threatened to kill both him and his unborn child and said she's exaggerating everything. Take that with a grain of salt coming from an ex-boyfriend. But the Senate Judiciary Committee Chuck Grassley sent that criminal referral in. But I think in these cases, you can't just say, oh, we're going to do this and expect nobody is going to ask any follow-up questions. BOLDEN: Yes, but if you don't care, all you care about is getting Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, getting him confirmed -- INGRAHAM: We care. We are pointing out to you that we do care about the process. Otherwise we'd just celebrate all the time. BOLDEN: We both care, but it's the leadership on the Judiciary Committee and the GOP in the House and Senate to pursue this. They haven't pursued it. So that confirms that they never really cared about the referrals or the criminal investigation of the Democrats. But why would they do that? Because of the height of the moment. At the height of the moment in sounded good. WALKER: Chairman Grassley took a strong stand in making the referral. He didn't need to do that. And I think it's right that he did that so that people know you can't toy around -- BOLDEN: Why hasn't he pursued it. SEVERINO: If you referred to it, then shouldn't they be the ones -- BOLDEN: Exactly. SEVERINO: The Senate is the ones who do it. INGRAHAM: FBI, Christopher Wray. BOLDEN: Ask them, too. INGRAHAM: All right, thank you all. We are going to highlight this because I think -- INGRAHAM: It's time for the "Seen and Unseen" segment where we expose the big cultural stories of the day. Watching the body language at yesterday's heating Oval Office meeting, we thought it would be instructive to break down what it all meant. And we have some news about the new Christian Bale, Dick Cheney movie. Joining us with all the details, FOX News contributor, Raymond Arroyo, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series. All right, Raymond, let's start with that tense Oval Office meeting yesterday. What does the body language tell us? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Laura, we will examine each of the players here. Let's start with Nancy Pelosi. Like most Italians -- I'm guilty -- her hands give her away. Now watch this. I call this the back of the hand. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI, (D) HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: You have the White House. You have the Senate. You have the House of Representatives. You have the votes. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Laura, you see what she's doing here. She doesn't need to fund a well. She has created her own wall between she and Trump. INGRAHAM: I thought she was going to do something. ARROYO: This is a kind of dismissive. INGRAHAM: Yes, the back of the hand. ARROYO: I'm blocking you out. I'm not even going to give you any signals. And then she looks away at one point. Later she literally turns her body and looks away from him. INGRAHAM: Who is she talking to? ARROYO: She is talking to the press. She is talking to Chuck Schumer, but she won't talk to the president. Later she suddenly became professor Nancy, and she started wielding a particular weapon at the end of her hand. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI, (D) HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: You begin. You make your point, you state your case. That's what the House Republicans could do if they had the votes. But they have no votes. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: See the finger. She starts pointing. This goes on. She schooled him on legislative policy, that she's part of the first branch of government. That is schoolteacher. INGRAHAM: Schoolmarm. ARROYO: Schooling Nancy, and she is kind of teaching him and putting him in his place. INGRAHAM: San Fran grand dame. ARROYO: But body language experts and a lot of the data will tell you this is a weapon. It's like threatening someone when you point at them directly. Let's go to this. This is the president trying to reassert authority here with what I called the king of the throne gesture. Watch for this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI, (D) HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: The fact is you do not have the votes in the house. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Nancy, I do. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He does that a lot. ARROYO: It's the domination. INGRAHAM: Dominating. ARROYO: Then you listen. It's like a megaphone. He is projecting his voice through his hands. You will see him do it a lot. It's a typical Trump gesture, but it's asserting his power. INGRAHAM: It's a guy sitting on the edge of his seat. ARROYO: He is ready to pounce. INGRAHAM: What about chuck Schumer? ARROYO: Hold on. Hold on. Finally, things get very combative. Watch what the president does here. I call this, Laura, the pointed dagger. It's almost like a duel. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We gained in the Senate. Nancy, we gained in the Senate. Excuse me, did we win the Senate? (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Now he's having a conversation with the media over her. And then Schumer comes in, doesn't address the president. He talks to the media. INGRAHAM: Body language. ARROYO: He talks to the media and turns away from the president entirely. They both do this. Schumer and Pelosi at different times do this, and the president as well. At some point he goes right over the head of Schumer, et cetera, and starts talking to the press. It was fascinating watching this. The character we have not talked about in this is poor Vice President Pence, who if you ever wanted to see someone trying to fade into the upholstery -- INGRAHAM: He was pulling a Comey going into the curtains almost. ARROYO: He was definitely fading away. OK, we've got to move on. INGRAHAM: Tell me about this new Christian Bale film called "Vice." ARROYO: Are you familiar with "Anchorman?" Those great films, "Anchorman," "Talladega Nights." INGRAHAM: Hilarious. ARROYO: Adam McKay, the director who brought those movies, has now decided he's going to be an auteur, and he tells the story of Dick Cheney. But it's through a very kind of cracked prism, OK. He claims here that Dick Cheney is a drunk without ambition, Lynn Cheney helped reorient. And then he meets these very dark characters, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Nixon, and they teach them how to become this powermonger. INGRAHAM: This is stupid. ARROYO: It's very dark. And the facts are all over the place. INGRAHAM: What is the connection to reality? ARROYO: We're going to get to that in a moment. At the film premiere, Christian Bale, who plays Dick Cheney, and you have to say, he has vanished into this role. But he talked here about encountering the president, President Trump back in 2011 when he was filming "The Dark Knight Rises" at Trump Tower. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRISTIAN BALE, ACTOR: I met him one time. We will filming on "Batman" in Trump Tower. And he said come on up to the office. I think he thought I was Bruce Wayne, because I was dressed as Bruce Wayne, so he talked to me like I was Bruce Wayne and I just went along with it really. It was quite entertaining. I had no idea at the time that he would think about running for president. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: So they kind of take a swipe at the president at the red carpet. INGRAHAM: I like the interviewer. ARROYO: Giggling along. INGRAHAM: Cute. ARROYO: Here's the nice thing about this film that you have to keep in mind. This is Adam McKay's twisted, cracked vision of Dick Cheney. He has turned this film into a weapon of mass destruction against the Cheneys and everyone they -- INGRAHAM: Why is that relevant? ARROYO: People you and I will know from Mary Matalin to Grover Norquist to Frank Luntz to Rush Limbaugh. INGRAHAM: Frank Luntz? ARROYO: Even Tyler Perry as Colin Powell. And as tempting as that is, it's not how I want to spend my Christmas. INGRAHAM: No, no, that's going to be a big flop. ARROYO: I want "It's a Wonderful Life," not it's -- INGRAHAM: Wait, wait, we've got something. Speaking of fun, now, this is fun. We have some footage of a dance party, not Shannon Bream's Friday dance party, no, no. That's a fun one, by the way. This is something you have to see to believe. This happened in India. What is this? ARROYO: This is footage from a $100 million week-long wedding, Laura, thrown by India's richest man Mukesh Ambani. This is not one but two former presidential contenders on the dance floor. Hillary Clinton and former secretary of state John Kerry whooped it up. They're right there on the left hand side of your screen. INGRAHAM: That little move. ARROYO: They look like a pair of Bollywood extras. INGRAHAM: We need a highlight on John Kerry's head. ARROYO: John Kerry is right there. He's right in the middle. Laura, this reminds me. INGRAHAM: Look at Hillary with the hand. She is doing this. She is doing this. ARROYO: She and Huma Abedin? Huma is there. INGRAHAM: Is that Huma? ARROYO: They're all together there. INGRAHAM: Oh, my God. Where's Cheryl Mills? ARROYO: This is more evidence, and it reminds me of the video of President George W. Bush and 2007. Do you remember this, he went to Africa and tried to dance with the tribal leaders? INGRAHAM: I thought he was cute. I thought he was adorable. ARROYO: He comes off a little bit better than the Bollywood crowd. But this is all evidence, Laura, that politicians really shouldn't dance. INGRAHAM: He's drumming there. Where is he dancing? ARROYO: He danced at the beginning. He did the George W. Bush -- INGRAHAM: But Hillary did the hand. Here's the thing, don't do the hand dance. That never works. ARROYO: Or getting up in front of people -- INGRAHAM: But John Kerry looks like Lumiere in "Beauty and the Beast." Didn't he look like Lumiere. You are expecting melting wax. Look at him doing the turn. He's doing the turn. ARROYO: And Hillary is doing the hold. It is really Mamma Mia. INGRAHAM: White men in white women can't dance. ARROYO: White politicians. INGRAHAM: White politicians can't dance. Any party. All right, Raymond, thanks so much. And when the Democrats come to power in the House, they have promised to shut down all investigations into the corrupt dealings at the FBI. How convenient. So is that good for you or me or the rule of law? House Intel Chair Devin Nunes here next. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you become chairman, are you officially going to end investigation? REP. JERRY NADLER, (D) NEW YORK: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why? NADLER: Because it's a waste of time to start with and the entire purpose of this investigation is to cast aspersion on the real investigation, which is Mueller. There is no evidence whatsoever of bias at the FBI or any of this other nonsense they're talking about. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: None of it at all. Text messages, Strzok, Page, none of that. That was incoming House Judiciary Chair Jerry Nadler explaining he will not continue the investigations into the multiple levels of corruption revealed at the highest levels of the FBI just over the past few years. The FBI is facing new scrutiny tonight after former national security adviser Michael Flynn's defense team revealed some troubling details in a late Tuesday night sentencing memo. Inside it they revealed that disgraced former deputy director of the FBI Andrew McCabe recommended, get this, that Flynn not have a lawyer present during his initial FBI interview. They wanted him to be very comfortable. Here with us exclusively tonight, House Intel Chairman Devin Nunes. Mr. Chairman, thank you for being here. What does it tell you about the so- called respect for the rule of law? They didn't give him an indication that this was any serious interview. They said in fact don't bring your lawyer, because if you do that, we're going have to call the Justice Department. Apparently they were good friends in this interview, and what happened? REP. DEVIN NUNES, (R) HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: What happened to General Flynn is just, it's a tragedy. I have known General Flynn since the mid-2000s. I've visited him numerous times in Iraq. He is the American war hero. You have heard me say this ad nauseam over and over again about the most important crime that was committed here was the leak of the highly sensitive, compartmented information of General Flynn talking to the Russian ambassador -- INGRAHAM: To David Ignatius at "The Washington Post," correct? NUNES: Yes. And then later again it showed up in "The Washington Post," I think even more information. That was a leak of a phone call of an American citizen that he had every right to make. It wasn't just that he was a national security adviser. Any American has the ability to talk to any ambassador that they want. And they used a law from the 1700s, the Logan Act, that had never been used. INGRAHAM: But this was all a pretext. So people watching understand, it looks like a set up. It looks like this is all pretextual. They had the transcript in their hand, the agent said so. They had the transcripts, and they were ready -- if Flynn said he didn't remember, they were going to read part of the transcript to him. But then he's in there without a lawyer, thinking that these are his buddies and there's no problem. Of course, I tell you. I have nothing to hide. Presumably that's what he said. NUNES: I don't want to jump ahead, but I sure you can talk about this, but the 302s. INGRAHAM: The 302s are the memos that they write after an interview with individuals of interest. NUNES: They were not finalized for seven months. INGRAHAM: So they were not finalized until August of 2017? NUNES: Yes. INGRAHAM: Why would that be? Wouldn't you go right back to the office and start working on them? NUNES: I don't know why that would have been, but I also know that we were briefed on those interviews in the House Intelligence Committee a month or two after those interviews occurred. So you have memos that would've been written during the interview, and then you have a briefing before the House Intelligence Committee, probably the Senate. And then you move onward, and it's not finalized until August 22nd. So I'm glad that the judge is looking at this. I think the judge should also asked the House Intelligence Committee to provide the transcript that we have of Director Comey testifying before our committee. He would be interested in that also. INGRAHAM: So the judge is seeking tonight, we learned and you're referencing, seeking to review key FBI notes before it makes a sentencing decision that are involving all this. NUNES: Right, he wants the notes beforehand and the 302s. INGRAHAM: That will reveal a lot about what they actually thought and knew right beforehand right after they left which was apparently that they didn't think he lied, correct? NUNES: Correct. INGRAHAM: So Peter Strzok did not think that Michael Flynn lied? NUNES: That's what I believe, at least from the testimony that we received over many, many months was that there was no lying had occurred. That's why I was shocked by -- INGRAHAM: So he wants two documents, a memo that then FBI Director Andrew McCabe wrote after speaking with Flynn by ahead of the interview he did with the two agents during the same interview. So that's the FD-302, that McCabe part. NUNES: Which is the finalization and the moralization of the original interview. And I still don't understand how it took seven months. And remember, Senator Grassley has been all over this for a year asking for these 302s. INGRAHAM: Sullivan also ordered the special counsel to hand over any memos or interview notes relevant to Flynn. So this all goes to your point. This was a complete setup from the beginning again Flynn. It looks obvious to me. It's obvious to anyone who has bothered to follow this for one minute. Another thing that's obvious is how many politically motivated actors have populated the Mueller investigation. Not all, but I want everyone to remember Jeannie Rhee is, just because of today, because she was speaking at the Cohen sentencing. He was sentenced today, got three years, southern district of New York. And for people who don't know who she is, I want to remind you. She worked for the Clinton Foundation. She repped also Obama Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes during the House Select Committee on Benghazi. She repped Ben Rhodes during all that, and then she repped the Clinton Foundation in 2015. She worked for Hillary Clinton, secretary of state. This is not someone who should be in the special counsel's investigation. And she also gave $5,400, too. NUNES: I have no idea why Mueller picked anyone that -- INGRAHAM: Connected with Hillary and the email investigation, and clearly it's crazy. NUNES: It's totally nuts, and if the shoe was on the other foot, the mainstream media would be going crazy. The Mueller investigation would've been shut down. It would've been called a fraud and hoax from the beginning. INGRAHAM: What do you think of Cohen getting three years? What does that tell you, anything? NUNES: I am watching to see how the media is making this out to be like that Trump did something wrong, when the reality is, he's going to prison for tax evasion. And so, look, I think if you look at what the fed said, the fed said this guy did a lot of bad things, where you have the special counsel's office saying the opposite. INGRAHAM: Rep Denny Heck on your committee says it's the beginning of the end of the Trump presidency. That's what he said. NUNES: We've heard a lot of that kind of talk over the last two years. INGRAHAM: Are people getting nervous on Capitol Hill? Any Republicans getting nervous about any of this? NUNES: No, not that I know. I think we are getting frustrated that we continue to speak truth to power. We continue to get facts out there. And you have the mainstream media who has been involved in this from the very beginning. They were the very first ones to get the Steele dossier that really originated this entire show. INGRAHAM: Devin Nunes, great to see you. Thanks for joining us. NUNES: Thanks, Laura. INGRAHAM: Up next, the last bite. INGRAHAM: First Lady Melania Trump with a message for her critics. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MELANIA TRUMP, FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES: : I do what I think is right. I know I will get criticism from the public or the media. But I will do what is right and what I feel is right for the country and for the people. And that's what I say I want to stay true to myself and listen myself and what to do and what is right and what is wrong and live meaningful life every day. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I love that. Fantastic. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the FOX NEWS @ NIGHT team, take it from here. Shannon, cannot wait. Load-Date: December 13, 2018 End of Document Trump Spars with Pelosi, Schumer in Explosive Oval Office Meeting; Border Wall Battle; Interview with Sen. Ted Cruz (R), Texas; President Trump Bravely Says He'll Own the Government Shutdown and He'll Do It if He Can't Get the Initial Funding that He Needed for the Border Wall; A Prison Reform Bill is Being Presented to Address Problems in the Justice System, Sen. Ted Cruz optimistic that it will be passed on a bipartisan vote; A U.S. District Judge Has Ordered Stormy Daniels to Pay Almost $300,000 to President Trump for His Legal Fees after Her Defamation Lawsuit against Him was Dismissed; Associated Press Reports that General Michael Flynn is Asking for Probation and Community Service for Lying to Investigations Instead of a Jail Time Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST December 11, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7839 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Tammy Bruce, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Jesse Watters, Jessica Tarlov Guests: Dan Bongino, Ted Cruz, John Solomon Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Hi. Welcome to HANNITY on this breaking news night. Let's go back to November 8, 2016. You, we, the people, shocked the world. You voted for a fighter, for a disrupter, someone who will battle hard to keep promises that he made to you and someone who will stand up to Washington, the establishment, smashed through government bureaucracy and actually get things done, and it's working. Well, tonight, President Trump is on offense determined to fund the wall on our southern border that he promised, he is now holding congressional Democrats accountable in a very public way. And yes, fighting for what he promised you. Now, coming up, we're going to show you Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, while they're playing petty partisan politics, President Trump is determined to protect the American people. We're going to play the tape from today's contentious, well, you might want to call it Trump beat down and explain why the blithering idiots leading the Democratic Party are way out of their league tonight. Plus, we'll review the president's plan for much-needed criminal justice reform. And I have a message for a deranged "New York Times" hack Paul Krugman who is literally saying the United States of America, our country, is part of the axis of evil. That was a really bad day for Michael Avenatti and Stormy Daniels as she has now been ordered to pay nearly $300,000 for president Trump's legal bills. All right. Stay tuned. And, we have a huge announcement at the end of the show. But, first, it's time for tonight's breaking news, well, Trump beat-down, opening monologue. Let's be honest. Border security is a deadly serious issue. Look at this, according to the Center for Immigration Studies, since 2001, 15 suspected terrorists -- they have been apprehended at our southern border, including Islamic extremists from al-Shabaab, the Taliban, ISIS. The true number of terrorists-related crossings is, of course, classified, likely much higher. And meanwhile, over 25,000 other known criminal immigrants have been arrested since 2016. This includes over a dozen murderers, 370 convicted sex offenders and nearly 5,000 individuals convicted of illegal drugs or weapons charges. Now, of course, I would tell you that the vast majority of people who went across the border illegally probably are people that want a better life for themselves or their family but even the illegal immigrants with the best of intentions, they are costing, we, the taxpayers, an enormous amount of money. According to a recent study, every illegal immigrant that successfully crosses our border costs you the American people, $70,000 a year. And on December 3rd, over 3,000 people were caught illegally crossing in just one day. In November, 2-year-old toddler was found crossing the border without her parents. We must have the ability to decide who comes into our country to ensure the safety on both sides of the border, to vet people, to make sure they can take care of themselves. So, now, more than ever, we need a massive wall. It's a common sense strategy that actually works, keeping potential terrorists, those that are criminals, human traffickers, drug traffickers out of this country, illegals, that's a national security issue. The president has long promised now to build that wall and now he's fighting to do just that, he's fighting for what's right. And now, he fought hard, this is his history for tax cuts. He gave us the largest tax cut in history. He fought for new trade deals and he's winning on that front. He fought back against Obama's endless bureaucratic regulations and he has created an environment for businesses that are now thriving. He's fought for energy independence and for the first time this week, and 75 years, we are energy independent. He fought for the confirmation of qualified originalists, justices and he's won, and now, he's fighting for the wall on the southern border in a big way and confronting Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer for playing politics with what is the safety and security of every American citizen. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I'd like to not see a government closing the shut down. We will see what happens over the next period of time. But the walls are very important thing to us. I might put it a different way. Border security is extremely important and we have to take care of border security. When you look at what happened with the caravans, with the people, we shut it down. We had no choice, we shut it down. It could be a lot easier if we had real border security. REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), MINORITY LEADER: You have the White House. You have the Senate. You have the House of Representatives. You have the votes. You should pass it. TRUMP: No, we don't have the votes, Nancy, because in the Senate we need 60 votes, and we don't have it (ph). PELOSI: No, no, but in the House, you could bring it up right now. TRUMP: Yes, but I can't -- excuse me, but I can't get it passed in the House if it's not going to pass in the Senate; I don't want to waste time. PELOSI: Well, the fact is, you can get it started that way. TRUMP: The House we could get passed very easily, and we do. PELOSI: OK, then do it. Then do it. TRUMP: But the problem is the Senate, because we need 10 Democrats to vote, and they won't vote. PELOSI: Well, let's take the vote and we'll find out. TRUMP: Nancy, Nancy, we need border security. It's very simple. PELOSI: Of course we do. TRUMP: We need border security. People are pouring into our country, including terrorists. We have terrorists. But we caught 10 terrorists. These are over the last very short period of time -- 10. These are very serious people. Our border agents, all of our law enforcement has been incredible what they've done, but we caught 10 terrorists, these are people that were looking to do harm. We need the wall. We need -- more important than anything, we need border security of which the wall is just a piece, but it's important. SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY), SENATE MINORITY LEADER: You just say, my way or we'll shut down the government. We have a proposal that Democrats and Republicans will support to do a C.R. that will not shut down the government. We urge you to take it. TRUMP: And if it's not good border security, I won't take (ph) it. SCHUMER: It is very good border security. (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: And if it's not good border security I won't take it. (CROSSTALK) SCHUMER: It's what -- TRUMP: Because when you look at these numbers of the effectiveness of our border security, and when you look at the job that we're doing with our military. SCHUMER: You just said it is effective. TRUMP: Can I - can I tell you something? SCHUMER: Yes, you just said it's effective. TRUMP: Without a wall -- these are only areas where you have the walls. Where you have walls, Chuck, it's effective. Where you don't have walls, it is not effective. (CROSSTALK) SCHUMER: Yes. PELOSI: Let's call a halt to this. We came in here in good faith, and we're entering into a -- this kind of a discussion in the public view. TRUMP: But it's not bad, Nancy. It's called transparency. PELOSI: No, and -- I know -- it's not transparency when we're not stipulating to a set of facts, and when we want to have a debate with you about saying -- we confront some of those facts -- (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: You know what, we need border security. That's what we're going to be talking about, border security. If we don't have border security, we'll shut down the government. SCHUMER: Twenty times -- 20 times, you were called for I will shut down the government if I don't get my wall. None of us has said -- TRUMP: You want to know something? SCHUMER: You said it. TRUMP: OK, you want to put that -- SCHUMER: You've said it. TRUMP: I'll take it. SCHUMER: OK, good. TRUMP: You know what I'll say? Yes. If we don't get what we want one way or the other, whether it's through you, through a military, through anything you want to call, I will shut down the government, absolutely. SCHUMER: OK, fair enough. We disagree. We disagree. TRUMP: And I'll tell you what, I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Wow. Chuck couldn't even look him in the eye. FOX News has confirmed that House Republicans are now considering putting a $5 million funding the wall built up for that vote that Nancy Pelosi wants and they will still fund the government at current levels. Now, this bill would prove Nancy Pelosi wrong and then put Senate Democrats in a pretty precarious position. Either fund the wall or they would shut down the government. By the way, if you are a Republican in Congress and you vote no, I will tell you right now that we will be highlighting your name and your record and holding you all accountable. This is about our nation security. It's about stopping drug traffickers and human traffickers. It's about safety for the American people. None of this seems to matter to the left and yet again, they are on the wrong side of what is a monumentally important issue. Look at this, according to a Harvard-Harris poll, a majority of Americans, they support the president, the wall on our southern border. Seventy-nine percent support a merit-based immigration system. Seventy-nine percent want more secure borders. Sixty-one percent say the current border security is inadequate, and 68 percent want an end to the visa lottery system. Now, Democrats don't want to listen to the American people, maybe they should listen to themselves because they are such hypocrites, in the Obama years, they sound a lot like Donald Trump and we've got the tape to prove it. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HARRY CLINTON (D), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I voted on numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in and I do think you have to control your borders. SCHUMER: People who entered the United States without our permission are illegal aliens and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who enter the U.S. legally. The American people will never accept immigration reform unless they truly believe that there government is committed to ending future illegal immigration. BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: Those who enter our country illegally, and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law. And because we live in an age where terrorists are challenging our borders, we cannot allow people to pour into the U.S. undetected, undocumented and unchecked. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh, how times have changed. They all sounded like little baby Donald Trumps. Now, we warn you for a long time. Now, Democrats, now they want open borders. Sanctuary cities, sanctuary states, they even want to get rid of ICE and all the hard work that they do altogether. But remember, they want to keep this agenda hidden, which is exactly was one of the more fascinating moments during that exchange with the president that went on 11, 12 minutes today, they kept urging the president over and over. Can we talk privately? Please? Please? You're killing us. That's a sure sign that they knew they were out of touch with the American people. Can we please do this privately? Pretty please? Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PELOSI: And the point is, there are equities to be waived and we are here to have a conversation in a prayerful way, so I don't think we should have a debate in front of the press. Let us have our conversation. SCHUMER: That's our proposal. If it's good then, it's good now, and it won't shut down the government. TRUMP: We could build a much bigger section with more money. SCHUMER: Let's debate in private. PELOSI: We came in here in good faith, and we are entering into this kind of discussion with the public. TRUMP: But it's not bad, Nancy. It's called transparency. PELOSI: Let's have a conversation where we don't have to contradict in public the statistics that you put forth but instead can have a conversation about what would really work. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No, let's have the conversation in public so we can all see where you really stand. Instead of working towards a solution, you see it. Democrats playing politics and literally commencing with their favorite activity bashing Trump, including, now moments after that tense exchange in the White House, watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PELOSI: The Trump shutdown is something that can be avoided, but the American people do not need at this time of economic uncertainty. People losing jobs the market in a mood and the rest, it's a luxury -- the Trump shut down is a luxury the American people cannot afford. SCHUMER: If he sticks to his position for a $5 billion wall, he will get no wall and he will get a shutdown. This Trump shutdown, this temper tantrum that he seems to throw will not get him his wall and it'll hurt a lot of people because he will cause a shutdown, he admitted he wanted a shutdown, it's hard to believe that he would want that. The president said things are working quite well at the border -- well, we want to give him the same thing he had last year. If they're working well last year, they should work well this year, he shouldn't shut down the government. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Amazing. Chuck couldn't look him in the eye when he was right in front of him, but he comes out strong when those cameras are out there and he doesn't have anybody to debate or to refute what he is saying. Actually, Chuck, the president said he would own it that he's willing to fight for his promise for the American people and that national security is that important to him. OK, he says he owns it, accept it and Nancy Pelosi gets back to the security of Capitol Hill. She actually then questioned the president's -- you can't make this up -- manhood, telling her fellow Democrats, quote: It's like a manhood thing for him, as if manhood could ever be associated with him this wall thing. And according to "The Hill" she also made this odd, weird bizarre analogy. It goes to show, you get into a tinkle contest with a skunk and you get tinkle all over you. Wow that's the leader of the Democratic Party, soon- to-be speaker of the House. This is going to be, listen, you watch in the first three months of next year, this is going to be entertainment at its highest level. I promise you. Now, let's contrast those very petty statements to how President Trump reacted following the meeting. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: I don't mind having the issue of border security on my side. If we have to close down the country over border security, I actually like that in terms of an issue but I don't want it to be an issue. I want it to be something that what the country needs. It's not really an issue. It's something the country needs. It's common sense. The country needs it. We need protection. We need border security. We need security from drugs that are pouring into our country. They're coming in right through that southern border and we need a wall, we need border security and part of border security is a wall. So, I don't mind owning that issue. I mean, Chuck's problem is that you know when the when we glass slows down that was his idea and honestly, he got killed. And so, he doesn't want to own it, and I said you know what, rather than us debating who's owning it, I'll take it. I'll take it. If we close down the country, I will take it because we're closing it down for border security and I think I win that every single time. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Ownership, responsibility keeping promises the courage to fight back. While some criticize the president style, this is why this president was elected. It's why the border wall will get done one way or the other. He is a disruptor in chief and finally promises are made that are being kept. The very reason, the same reason the president Trump's bipartisan prison reform bill will also likely pass Congress and become law. Soon, nonviolent, low risk offenders will have the chance to once again contribute to society without unreasonably long prison sentences. This is good for America, everyone, again nonviolent very important, especially those who are first-time offenders they should have a chance at redemption. Now, remember this scene. Alice Marie Johnson who we'd had the opportunity to meet an interview, thanking the president, thanking the country for a second chance. She spent 20-plus years in prison for one drug offense, nonviolent. And now, others like Alice Marie Johnson currently in prisons, they will be given a second chance. Now, despite real progress across the country on multiple fronts -- well, Trump derangement syndrome has devastated some of America's worst so-called journalists, of course, this includes "New York Times" hack Paul Krugman. This is the most insane thing I think I've read in the New York Times that says a lot, tweeting out an article about how climate change along with a statement that reads, quote: There's a new axis of evil, Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United States? OK. Is this is what "The New York Times" has become, a paper so filled with anti-Trump rage that they employ a person that's calling the United States of America evil, not only is Krugman's anti-climate change rage absurd it's also misplaced. Mr. Krugman in 2017, the U.S. actually led all countries and reducing carbon emissions. I guess journalism is not one of his strengths, but what else would you expect from "The New York Times"? And for the record, Paul, no America is not perfect, no country has ever been. But there's never been a country that has accumulated more power and abused it less and accumulated more power and used it to help advance the human condition more than the United States of America. Of course, you and your biased newspaper so-called of record need a history lesson. All right. Joining us now with reaction to our monologue, former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino, FOX News contributor Tammy Bruce. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Hey there. HANNITY: The best part of today was, it should be public, Dan Bongino, loved it, I want to see that every day. They don't want you to see that. DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Yes. HANNITY: And the other part is, I'll take ownership of the safety of the American people, absolutely. It's worth fighting over. BONGINO: Yes, dropped a huge L on this today, Sean. Nancy and Chuck, they lost big. And, Sean, something happened that should indicate to everybody watching just how badly they lost that interaction in the Oval Office with Trump. Did you see how quickly, not only they jumped to the cameras but then on Capitol Hill, there was a flurry to get to the cameras again? They couldn't reframe this thing any quicker but they realized something happened here, right in front of the country, they were put on the spot with a simple question, will a wall increase border security or not? And Chuck and Nancy flubbed. There's no mulligan. We all saw it, they dropped the huge loss and Trump expose them for what they are. They did a great job today framing this in terms of border security. You know, look at the cost along for the American people look I've been down there times, Tammy. All the way from the Rio Grande through San Diego, in drug warehouses horseback, helicopter, boats, all-terrain vehicles, foot, I've been out with these true these guys. I've seen it up front. The Center for Immigration Studies, they calculate a staggering percent of households led by non-citizens use at least one welfare program and it's costing the American people $70,000 a year, criminal justice system, health care system, educational system, we pay per illegal immigrants grand a year. BRUCE: Yes, we're a generous country. We are and yet Americans are realizing that there is a better way to do this instead of having to be this chaos. But also when another number, 80 percent of the fentanyl that comes into this country comes in through the southern border. This is about life and death for it for American citizens and also for immigrants who come into this country. We want to stay the country that people want to come to, and in order to do that, we've got to secure the border but I would also say with that scene in the Oval Office where the Democrats continue to look the clown themselves it is the best a chance for Americans to see as President Trump's commitment to transparency showing them that kind of meeting. But when they're scrambling to not give him $5 billion for a wall, that's a lot of money for in just a human history. But for some reason, the Democrats were able to find a hundred and fifty billion for Barack Obama to give to an American enemy, to Iran, to the biggest state sponsor of terrorism around the world and to the country that murders Americans and kidnaps them and holds them and disappears them. They found a hundred and fifty billion for that, but they can't find such $5 billion to secure the American people. The president should ask the Democrats, why that is the case? Why does $5 billion to secure the border, why is that not possible for them but they found that kind of money an extraordinary amount of money for an enemy of the United States? The wall, the card that he was pointing to in that in that clip, since the 1990, the five sectors were we have built a wall, over 90 percent of illegal traffic was abated, was ended. It cut it down by over 90 percent in every single place where we built a serious secure wall and barrier. That's what we know. That's what the American people want and that's what the president must -- I know, Sean, you would agree -- must play hardball here. He is our only chance to get these things right and to stop the swamp. HANNITY: I like that he owns it. Well, you know what, we all make decisions in life and we suffer consequences I think the American people will respond very favorably to this and if he holds life -- look, he also has another option. By the way, Lindsey Graham said, don't give up, Mr. President. Then you had, Senator Inhofe, Senator Shelby, you know, we have a $700 billion military budget. This is a national security issue, Dan. The end of the day, if the president needs to go that route, I don't see any problem in that being plan B, and that would include the entire $25 billion. BONGINO: Yes, Sean, let's put this in context. We have a $4 trillion federal budget. I mean, this isn't nickels we're talking about, let's be candid. But in the scope relatively speaking of our federal budget, it's nothing. And the fact that Tammy has indicated, correctly so, we were willing to shuttle pallets of cash to the Iranians yet we're not willing to dedicate a fraction of the budget to secure our southern border with a wall the American people know works. It's ridiculous. You know, Sean, it's not the national defense issue though. That's important and paramount. But second, it's an economic issue, secondly. I mean, Milton Friedman said it best -- you cannot have open borders in a welfare state at the same time. BRUCE: Yes. BONGINO: It is a mathematical impossibility. It doesn't work. HANNITY: All right. Great analysis by both of you tonight. Right on a money. Tammy, great point on Iran. All right. When we come back, we'll explain one thing -- government shutdowns, most of the government stays open. Ted Cruz will join us. Also later, four dead now and a dozen wounded in France at a Christmas market. Authorities are treating it as a terror attack. We'll have an update on that and a special announcement, straight ahead. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PELOSI: People at the top of the Republican Party have lost after losing their offices now because of the transition, people are not in -- (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: We've gained in the Senate. Nancy, we've gained in the Senate. Excuse me, did we win the Senate? We won the Senate. SCHUMER: When the president brags that he won North Dakota and Indiana, he's in real trouble. TRUMP: I did. We did win North Dakota and Indiana. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, Chuck, North Dakota and Indiana were in Democratic hands. Anyway, that was more of the president's showdown, beat down with Democratic leaders earlier today. Now, President Trump continues to forge ahead despite Democratic obstruction. Earlier tonight, he tweeted this: Thanks to Leader McConnell for agreeing to bring a Senate vote on criminal justice this week. These historic changes will make communities safer and save tremendous taxpayer dollars. It brings much needed hope to many families during the holiday season. All right. Joining us now with reaction to this and so much more, Texas senator -- whoa -- we got the new beard thing going on. I didn't know you had that. Ted Cruz is with us. Good to see you, Senator. SEN. TED CRUZ (R), TEXAS: It's good to be with you, Sean. HANNITY: I think you're the only guy in history. I may be wrong, I think you've had more money thrown at you in that last election than ever before in any Senate race. Is that pretty accurate? Almost a hundred million? CRUZ: Yes, no, it's right. They spent over $80 million against us. We were outspent three to one, and they increase Democratic turnout by over a hundred percent. But thankfully, we turned Texans out, we turn Republicans out, and we ended up winning statewide. Very gratified victory. HANNITY: Important race. Here's what I want to ask you -- I remember when in 2013 or '14, when you did a filibuster and I watched I was up for a good part of the night, I can tell you who actually supported you, and I watched you and then there were predictions he's just lost us the Senate. And in 2014, no, we actually had a very good year for the Senate. I watched the president today and I'm thinking -- this is what people want from their elected officials, to fight for the promises they made. You were fighting on health care then, he's fighting on borders now. Why don't we see more of this in the Republican Party? CRUZ: Sean, I think you're exactly right. The American people had for a long time been frustrated with Washington, frustrated that too many too many elected officials don't follow through on their promises and they want us to do what we said we would do. You know, I watched that whole exchange with the president, Chuck Schumer, and Nancy Pelosi, and I think the president was terrific that he was standing up and saying, we're going to keep our promise. We're going to secure the border. We're going to build the wall. And I'll tell you, one of the surest indications of how unhappy the Democrats were in that exchange is over and over again, Nancy Pelosi says, can we turn the TV cameras off? We're not supposed to be doing this publicly. HANNITY: Right. CRUZ: You could tell there are the losing end of the argument when she's scared that cameras are showing that she and the Democrats are for open borders and the president is fighting to do what the American people want, which is secure the border, build the wall and keep our country safe. HANNITY: Well -- and I was down with Rick Perry on the border and on boats and helicopters. I've been down to the border from the Rio Grande through San Diego 13 times. I sat through a security briefing with Governor Perry, 642,000 Texans victims of crime in a seven-year period. Here's my question though -- and by the way, I got to give Lindsey Graham credit, when he stood up to Justice Kavanaugh in that case against what was happening to him. Here's my question: everybody seemed to fear a government shutdown, don't essential services continue? The elderly will get their Social Security checks. CRUZ: Right. HANNITY: Medicare continues, our military are in place, so why always the big fear about a shutdown on something as important as our national security? CRUZ: Well, listen, essential services continue during any shutdown, and at this point about 70 percent of the federal government has already been appropriated. So, we're fighting over about 30 percent of the federal budget. Now I personally hope we don't have a shut down but I think the president is absolutely right to say the American people want the border secured. It's the right thing to do. And the Democrats are just being obstructionist. They are opposed to border security and I'll tell you that's a big reason why Republicans grew our majority in the Senate this election, as the president noted, winning North Dakota, and Indiana, winning Texas is because the American people want the border security. HANNITY: Let me ask you about Mueller and where we are with this. First of all, your thoughts on the double standard, Hillary Clinton, the Uranium One deal gave 20 percent of our uranium to the hostile nation of Russia and the hostile actor Putin, nobody investigates that. Twenty percent. And 145 million went back to the Clinton Foundation or the dossier which we now know that they never vetted but it was the foundation of this entire or the bulk of information for the FISA applications. Nobody talks about that. The money that paid for the dossier was funneled through a law firm. That would seem to me it would be a campaign finance issue but they are trying to claim Donald Trump has campaign financial issues, as a lawyer, I'm asking you, do you see that? Because I do not. CRUZ: Listen, all of these are serious allegations. And the Department of Justice needs to investigate serious allegations of criminal conduct. One of the things frustrating over the last two years is we have not had sufficient accountability in the Department of Justice. I think the Department of Justice should be blind to political party. I don't want a Republican DOJ, or a Democratic DOJ. I want the Department of Justice-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Just equal justice. CRUZ: -- that's faithful to the Constitution and the law. HANNITY: Right. CRUZ: And I'm hopeful with the new attorney general nominee Bill Barr that we will see that at the Department of Justice. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: May I ask you a question? CRUZ: We need to make sure that everyone is held accountable. HANNITY: I had this woman Alice Marie Johnson on who the president commuted her sentence. Amazing woman, 20 years, on single drug crime. How do you feel about the prison reform bill as long as violent felons are not included? CRUZ: Well, I think we are getting ready to have a major bipartisan victory. And I want to commend the president's leadership on criminal justice reform. I'm a longtime advocate of criminal justice reform and I think reducing mandatory minimum sentences for nonviolent drug offenders makes a lot of sense. There are far too many young black men in prison for decades for simple possession, and that's not right. And so, but my big concern, you just put your finger on it, is we should not be releasing violent criminals. Violent criminals are totally different. I draw a big line between violent and non- violent. And so, what happened last week, I drafted an amendment to this bill that excluded violent criminals that said we're going to focus relief on nonviolent criminals but rapists, murderers and violent criminals are going to stay in jail. The sponsors of the bill in the White House they took my amendment word for word and when they took my amendment I'm now supporting, and I'm a co- sponsor, I urged Mitch McConnell to take it up and schedule a vote. And just today he announced, we are going to do it. I think we are going to pass this, which will be a major, major bipartisan victory and I think it's in the interest of justice. HANNITY: I do, too. All right, Senator, well said. Good to see you. I'm getting used to the new look. If it gets wider and longer, next year you could be Santa Claus. You have ways to go. CRUZ: Ho, ho, ho. HANNITY: All right. Senator Ted Cruz, thank you. All right, up next, a major developing terror situation in France. Plus, the A.P. now reporting that General Michael Flynn asking for probation and community service for lying to investigations. Trace Gallagher has all the details later. We have a big announcement. Not a good day for Stormy Avenatti. We'll get to that too, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Breaking news, this is a Fox News alert. A.P. is now reporting that General Michael Flynn has requested probation and community service. Earlier today also, there was a deadly shooting in France which is now being treated as a terror incident. Trace Gallagher joins us live in our west coast newsroom tonight with the latest on both of these stories. Trace? TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Sean. Let's begin with the shooting. The attack happened near Stroudsburg famous Christmas market which is one of the city's biggest attractions. The same Christmas market was the focus of an Al Qaeda plot back in 2000, although it remains unclear if the market was targeted this this evening. Witnesses say the suspect initially open fire on people crossing a bridge and that the gunfire came in several bursts, sending people running and panicking into nearby buildings and restaurants. Authorities have now confirmed that four people are killed, and a dozen wounded. Check that three now killed, they downgraded it, a dozen wounded, though six of the injuries are said to be minor. Investigator say the 29-year-old gunman was born in Strasburg and is well known to local police as a terror suspect. In fact, before today shooting, police converged on the suspect's apartment in connection with an armed robbery earlier this week. Grenades were found during that search but the suspect fled the apartment before police arrived, and then despite heavily police presence at the Christmas market, the suspect also got away there. They do be believe he has links to extremist groups. And separately tonight, we should say that breaking news ahead of his sentencing next week for lying to investigators about his contact with Russia's ambassador to the U.S. The lawyers for Trump national security advisor, the former national security adviser Michael Flynn are now asking that Flynn get probation and community service instead of jail time. Remember, this is key because prosecutors have also agreed the retired army lieutenant general should spend zero time behind bars. The sentencing is next week and prosecutors have until Friday to reply to Flynn's request for community service. They are asking for 200 hours of community service, no more, and no jail time. Sean? HANNITY: He spent only 33 years serving his country. Trace Gallagher, thank you. I think he's been through enough. We'll continue to monitor both of these stories. Also, tonight, a U.S. district judge has ordered Stormy Daniels to pay almost $300,000 to President Trump for his legal fees after her defamation lawsuit against him was dismissed. Meanwhile, more signs of a lot more Clinton corruption. John Solomon out with a new report entitled "Did the Clinton Foundation mislead the IRS? State filings raise the question." We did reach out to the foundation for a response they told us in part these charges are minor infractions, similar to a speeding ticket. Only bad if you are a Republican. Joining us now with reaction, The Hill's John Solomon, Fox News contributor and investigative reporter, Sara Carter, and Fox News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett. Did the Clinton foundation mislead the IRS, and why was the home and the whistle-blower, why was that home raided? Do we know, John? JOHN SOLOMON, VICE PRESIDENT, THE HILL: I think we do. I think in that one whistleblower -- and by the way that's not a whistleblower that will be testifying Thursday. Very different. I think there was concern there were classified documents still at the house and the government wanted to make sure that they were in the proper storage facility. I don't think it's more than that. Now let me tell you about the Clinton Foundation. In 2005, Utah regulators were reviewing their license to operate in the state of Utah and they said, hey, we see some missing data on your form. You should amend your form. You're not disclosing your fund-raising consulting fee is on the line that's required, amend that and then we'll give you a licensed. And the Clinton Foundation came back and said, no thanks. Too much expense to go through the trouble and fixing our IRS form and they just pull that out of the state and then do charitable. I go through about 2,000 pages of documents on this column and you will see numerous instances where they have a consent agreement and they admit to wrongdoing in Mississippi. They are forcibly, involuntarily closed down in Massachusetts over a technicality. They don't have a perfect record in complying with regulatory compliance and I think that's one of the issues you are going to see Thursday at the hearing with Mark Meadows. HANNITY: It's going to be fascinating. Let me go to Gregg Jarrett on the legal side of this. Uranium One and I know all of us know William Campbell. That is going to be a big issue only because that, too, is connected to the Clinton Foundation and the 45 -- 145 million thrown back to the Clinton Foundation. We knew that Putin operatives were in this country involved in bribery, extortion money laundering, and kickbacks. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Right. HANNITY: OK. Then the $145 million kick back. Between that and the dossier that Comey admits he never verified. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: Big problem. All of these Clinton issues now are definitely going to be in the forefront. My sources tell me, in a major way, in spite of all the double standards that has existed up to this point? JARRETT: Sure. Because it's a crime to confer a benefit to a foreign government or to anybody in exchange for money. And you know, one has always wondered why the Clinton Foundation wasn't seriously investigated, not to mention Hillary and Bill Clinton. At the same time, they were investigating the Russians over this extortion, bribery, and money laundering, et cetera, it turns out there were four people in charge of that investigation. Robert Mueller, James Comey, Andrew Weissmann and Rod Rosenstein. So, I think we have answered-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Wow, how about they keep coming up together. JARRETT: And you know, I write about all of this in the book, in my book "The Russia Hoax." And you know, it's obvious in addition to those individuals that Loretta Lynch's Department of Justice opened a sham investigation that quietly vanished. Why? Longtime friends of Hill and Bill. HANNITY: All right. Sara, I know you spent a time, a lot of time with William Campbell. We had a spy. Let's talk about Russia. In Putin's network, that wanted a foothold in our uranium industry. We don't have enough uranium. We have to import uranium. And they ended up getting this approved by Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder and then the money from the people flowed back to the Clinton Foundation. How could anybody seriously talk about Russian influence and not deal with the Uranium One, Hillary Clinton, and not deal with the phony fake Russian dossier that she paid for that was used to influence the outcome of the 2016 election by disseminating lies about Donald Trump. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, Sean, there are several things here and I think you hit it right on the money. William Campbell, I was talking to him just recently as this week. You know, he had all this information, he was delivering it in very specific notes-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Who did he give it to? CARTER: -- to his FBI handlers, to the FBI directly. He specifically told them about pay for play. How the Russians were planning on influencing Hillary Clinton and the foundation that their hopes were that during even, during the time between 2009 and 2013. Remember, this is an area where the FBI was investigating. I mean, the investigation was never shut down. What happened to all of that information why they didn't go forward with it that William Campbell spoke to the Little Rock Arkansas FBI field office recently and he delivered that information. And now we know there's other whistle-blowers coming forward. So, something is shifting, something is happening and Hillary Clinton and the foundation are being investigated. We'll just have to wait and see what they find. HANNITY: I know everybody is frustrated because this has been only a one- sided investigation. CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: It's all on all things Trump. But and I think you will all confirm with me, is that my sources tell me all of this is coming out. The dossier, the FISA abuse, to the Uranium One deal. All agree? JARRETT: I hope you are right. CARTER: I agree. Lots of sealed indictments, Sean. SOLOMON: I'm certainly hearing that now. HANNITY: I have very good sources. I really do. You guys do too. CARTER: I know. HANNITY: Great work all three of you. Thank you. When we come back, Nancy Pelosi, really? Mocking the president's manhood after the beat down that she and Chuckie got today? Jesse and Jessica are here. We'll find out who is a world, and a big programming announcement coming up at the end of the show. HANNITY: All right. So, as we've been talking about all night, and we showed you earlier, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer clearly rattled after today's meeting at the White House. Pelosi even describing it as tinkle contest. It talked about the president's manhood because he supports security in our southern border. All right. Whose world is it going to be tonight? Fox News contributor Jessica Tarlov. The guy has two shows because one is not enough. The Five, Watters World, Jesse Watters. Let's just talk about, can we pretty please with -- pretty please with sugar on top get these terrible cameras out here and negotiate a loan? Because you are making us look really bad and it's embarrassing. Then go back and talking about manhood in a tinkle war and calling the president a skunk, I'd say it was pretty one-sided. And the president saying, I'll own a shutdown. Good. Because the American people ant the border wall. JESSE WATTERS, FOX NEWS HOST: Yes. Being manly is a burden, of all people I understand that, Sean. But listen, being manly is going to build a wall that's going to prevent more Kate Steinle's from being killed, then I'm all for that. And I think she's mixing metaphors with a tinkle. I think it's don't pee down my leg and tell me it's raining. So, she seems a little confused on that issue. She does want to go back to the smoked-filled back rooms and cut a deal and pass a bill so she can find out what's in it. Trump totally exposed her. He beat both of them. Two on one. Sean, it was like Candia doubles. He smoked them both and now they are running back to the cameras to try to spin the story. It's not even a lot of money he's asking for, five billion out of $4 trillion. HANNITY: Exactly. WATTERS: That's like loose change in a couch. HANNITY: And by the way, and it's not like 150 billion like Obama gave the Iranians. JESSICA TARLOV, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: It was their money. He was returning their-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: It was the terrorist money. Yes, go with that, Jessica. HANNITY: But we didn't have to give it to them. TARLOV: No, I will go with that because that's actually what happened. HANNITY: Keep going with that. WATTERS: Yes, give the terrorist their money back. HANNITY: That's he's leaning. TARLOV: Nancy Pelosi smoked the president, 100 percent. HANNITY: What are you smoking if you believe that? TARLOV: You guys are better about it and I get that. But she showed him up, she fact-checked him to his face-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: How did she do that? TARLOV: -- and he couldn't stand it, so he got angry and he took responsibly for the shutdown-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He wasn't angry. TARLOV: -- which he didn't want to do and Mike Pence sat there with his eyes closed meditating or whatever was going on there because he couldn't even deal with how badly Trump was being beaten by Chuck and Nancy. HANNITY: Jessica-- WATTERS: Who and I want the president to be a little bit angry. I mean, remember Barack Obama he was too cool. We have the American beheaded by ISIS. And what did he do? He played golf and a fist bump. I like a president that gets a little fired up. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: let's talk about Jamal Khashoggi then. I'm Jared Kushner, hey, MBS, no big deal, I'm going to help you get through this. What would you guys do if that was going on under Obama? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know what I love about this? You know what? The American people have put up the poll earlier. They want the border secure. We see the drug trafficking, human trafficking, all the terrorists that have that we know known terrorists, ISIS, Al Qaeda, that have tried to cross our border. TARLOV: He made up that said. HANNITY: All the crimes committed by a small percentage but we've got to keep the American people safe, right, Jessica. TARLOV: Absolutely. But Nancy Pelosi, again was very clear. She said, of course, border security. Chuck Schumer is offering him $1.6 billion. I would take the deal if I was him because by January 3rd, he is not going to have any control of that House that he thinks he can get the border wall passed through. And he's not going to get a better deal. So, take the money and run, my friend, in the Oval. WATTERS: Yes. Listen, it was the-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He get the military to pay for it. WATTERS: It was the Schumer shutdown last time, it didn't work so well. I think it takes a lot of guts that Trump owned the shutdown. He doesn't, you know, fold like those other people the last time. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: He was a petulant child. WATTERS: He's going to own this shut down. TARLOV: Fine. Enjoy it. WATTERS: And he's going to get the wall. It's not going to be like promising to shut down Gitmo and not delivering in eight years. He's going to get the wall-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Not going to be a red line either. TARLOV: Very strong bad tonight, Jesse. Sean, come on, give it to me. I had everything ready. WATTERS: She's begging for it, Sean. TARLOV: I want it. HANNITY: All right. Let me tell you, I've got a decision. Ninety-nine to one. Watters world. WATTERS: You got one. HANNITY: Not even close tonight. WATTERS: You got one. TARLOV: This is pathetic. HANNITY: All right. When we come back, a big announcement to share with you. That's next. HANNITY: All right. A big programming announcement. Tomorrow the first lady Melania Trump will be visiting two military bases and the aircraft carrier the USS George H.W. Bush. We will be there for all of it. We're going to take you behind the scenes with Mrs. Trump. We'll have an exclusive sit-down interview with her aboard the aircraft carrier. And the full interview will air tomorrow night 9 p.m. Eastern. We hope you don't want to miss it. I hope you will set your DVR. Remember, we will always be fair and balanced. We are not the destroy-Trump media. Here's the question you have to ask yourself tonight. Are you happy that somebody is willing to fight to keep their promises? I personally find it refreshing. Maybe you don't like the combative style but it gets us tax cuts, the end of bureaucracy, conservative justices and it'll get us a border wall. That's all the time we have left. But let not your heart be troubled because the news is not over because Laura Ingraham is up next. Hello, Laura. Load-Date: December 12, 2018 End of Document Sparring of Words in the Oval Office between Trump, Pelosi and Schumer; Time Magazine Awards Journalists Person of the Year; Terror Attack in France; Trump Wants a Border Wall and Threatens of a Looming Government Shutdown; Article Reports Anti-Semitic Comments Made by Founders of Women's March; Retreat Excludes White People from Attending Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST December 11, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8582 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Trace Gallagher, Tom Homan, Guests: Raheem Kassam, David Goodfriend, Jeffrey Lord, Steve Scalise, Ann Coulter, Ladawn Jones, Horace Cooper, Antjuan Seawright Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: I personally find it refreshing. Maybe you don't like the combative style, but it gets us tax cuts, the end of bureaucracy, conservative justices and it will get as a border wall. It's all the time we have left, but let not your heart be troubled because the news is not over because Laura Ingraham is up next. Hello, Laura. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: I am excited about your interview with Melania. She is so -- HANNITY: And I can tell it's going to be fun. INGRAHAM: I love her. She's so great. She is so under covered by the media who just anything connected to Trump, they will try to trash. When Michelle Obama blinked, she was on the cover of the magazine. HANNITY: No, no, no. It's worst than that. They are mean and abusive to her and I have gotten to know her. Smart, lovely, amazing and I hope America gets to see that tomorrow. It is so unfair what they've done to her. INGRAHAM: And I hope she does more of these types of events. I think, it's not a criticism but it's a suggestion that the more people get to know her -- HANNITY: And you want to know the best part? INGRAHAM: -- the more people get to know her, the more they are going to like her. So don't make yourself so scarce (ph) because we want to hear from you. HANNITY: Remember, (inaudible) using a fifth language and she is such a success on her own. The best part is and the president was at 49 percent in his approval rating today. Obviously, all the hysteria on the left is not working. But her approval ratings are higher and I have reminded the president of that in the past. INGRAHAM: Yes, he loves that. Sean, I can't wait. I'm so glad you're doing that. Give her my best. She's one of my favorites. HANNITY: And I'll see you in D.C. tomorrow. Have a great show. INGRAHAM: Sounds great. All right, I am Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington tonight. An Oval Office throw down where Democrats pleas for privacy reveal their losing hand on immigration. Plus, the disgusting origin story of the radical Women's March. We're going to have a new expose that may imperil some of the Democrats newest stars and this story is completely wacko. Vice News is promoting an overseas vacation retreat that bans white people. Yes it's true. The debate over what can only be described as a new form of voluntary segregation. But first, guardians of the fallacy, that's the focus of tonight's "Angle." The political and media establishment, they've been at war and a cold war really with Donald Trump for more than three years now. And from the outset, he represented everything they hate, and not just his America First policies, but his brash, take no prisoners style that threatened to crash their exclusive club. But as the Mueller probe and its new New York offshoot come to a head, the media feel well-positioned to recast their image from #fakenews to galaxy saving superheroes like Batman or Aquaman. They've decided to try a franchise reboot. The first comes courtesy of "Time" magazine's person of the year. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) EDWARD FELSENTHAL, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF & CEO, TIME: As we looked at the choices, it became clear that the manipulation and abuse of truth is really the common thread in so many of this year's major stories, from Russia to Riyadh to Silicon Valley. And so we chose to highlight four individuals and one group who have taken great risks in pursuit of greater truths. (END VIDEP CLIP) INGRAHAM: And I only heard -- caught the last part of what he said when I first saw this and I thought, oh wow, they are giving it to China's persecuted Christians. That's amazing. Well, instead, "Time" magazine has kept the award kind of inside the family and named a group of journalists as the people of the year with the understated title "The Guardians and the War on Truth." The group includes slain journalist Jamal Khashoggi and the Capital Gazette staff which lost members of course when a shooter opened fire on their offices. Of course, we love objective journalists and the targeting of reporters just because they are doing their jobs is despicable. Well also, isn't there something kind of transparently self- serving about journalists giving awards to other journalists? Well, to his credit and professionalism, Capital Gazette editor Rick Hutzell expressed uneasiness about the recognition. He said I hate being the story. And he added that this was the first sit-down interview he had done since that June attack. Good for him. By the way, as an aside, later in the show, we will reveal whom we would have picked for persons of the year. So stay with us for that. It's going to be a lot of fun. But by the way, "Time" isn't the only aging outfit trying to resurrect its damaged reputation. Retired senators are also lumbering back from obscurity to claim the mantle of moral and intellectual superiority. Rising from the political dead, they promised that their wisdom will save us from Trump. You've got to read between the lines. All you need to know though was that op-ed was the brainchild of Trump basher extraordinaire Chuck Hagel and Connecticut liberal Chris Dodd. They said on part, "We are on the eve of the conclusion of the special counsel Robert S. Mueller's investigation and the House commencement of investigations of the president and his administration -- we urge current and future senators to be steadfast and zealous guardians of our democracy by ensuring that partisanship for self-interests not replace national interests." Well, kind of high-minded malarkey signifying nothing. Well, look, I will forever salute Chuck Hagel's military service but that doesn't give him immunity from political criticism that is just kind of brain dead. Where was the bipartisan cabal when we needed to guardians of the rule of law and transparency during the Obama years? Fast & Furious, Benghazi, the IRS scandal, the Clinton e-mail cover-up, the horrors at the VA, the green energy boondoggles involving companies like Solyndra just to name a few. Where were these 44 senators when we needed guardians of our border? Where were they when we needed guardians against the rigged trade deals that empowered a ruthless communist regime in China? And where were they when we need guardians against activist judges who stray far, far beyond their Article 3 powers? Look, Donald Trump ain't perfect. None of us are. None of us is, to be grammatically correct. But he's done more in two years to try to safeguard America, the country we love, than all those senators who signed that op-ed combined. The media and failed politicos are guardians. They are guardians of a fallacy that the American people need protection from their own political choices. The president was duly elected and is entering the third year of his first term, but the media and political establishment are still in denial. Do you notice by the way that they basically given up on substantive debate on any of the issues that Trump is really tackling? Instead they often prefer personal invective to pragmatic solutions. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUTH MARCUS, DEPUTY EDITORIAL PAGE EDITOR, WASHINGTON POST: The president has very little in the way of attention span. The president is undisciplined. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Secretary Tillerson, you know, called him an effing moron with not for nothing is the highest rank of moron (inaudible) that's achievable. JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC HOST: He gets bored after about 15 seconds. Even people talking to him. REP. KAREN BASS (D), CALIFORNIA: He doesn't want information. He comes into the job with very little knowledge. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, if he is that uninformed, how did he beat all you smart people? That's my question. My fiends, populist movements are popping up all over the world. They are challenging the old political orders that have failed to raise the standard of living of their own people or to safeguard the culture. Folks aren't mad because they enjoy being mad. They are mad because politicians have screwed things up so badly across the board. But the guardians of the old order, they right now feel empowered by Trump's legal woes and a new Democrat majority in the House. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA: -- call a halt to this. We have come in here as a first branch of government. Article I, the legislative branch. We are coming in, in good faith to negotiate with you about how we can keep the government open. The American -- DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We are going to keep it open if we have border security. If we don't have border security, we are not going to keep it open. PELOSI: I'm with you. I'm with you. We are going to have border security. SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: And it's the same border -- you are bragging about what has been done. TRUMP: By us. SCHUMER: We want to do the same thing we did last year, this year. That's our proposal. If it's good then, it's good now and it won't shut down the government. TRUMP: Chuck, we can build a much bigger section with more money. SCHUMER: Let's debate in private, OK? Yes. Let's debate in private. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Let's keep all this private. And then the media guardians, they jumped in with their questions. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you define what it means to have border security? TRUMP: We need border security. The wall is a part of border security. PELOSI: We came here in good faith and we are entering into this kind of discussion in public view. TRUMP: But it's not bad, Nancy. It's called transparency. SCHUMER: We shutdown the government over a dispute and you want to shut it down. You keep talking about it. TRUMP: No, no, no. The last time Chuck you shut it down -- SCHUMER: No, no, no -- TRUMP: And then you opened it up very quickly. SCHUMER: Twenty times. TRUMP: If we don't get what we want, one way or the other, whether it's through you, through a military, through anything you want to call, I will shut down the government. Absolutely. SCHUMER: OK. Fair enough. We disagree. TRUMP: And I am proud -- and I'll tell you what -- SCHUMER: We disagree. TRUMP: I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, it's pretty amazing watching this whole thing play out because by refusing to be cowed by warnings that a partial government shutdown would damage him and his party politically, well the president is actually doing what the retired senators claim to want. He is standing on principle by acting on the urgent need to preserve the sovereignty and security of our country. And by the way, notice what Pelosi said several times during that very fiery exchange. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PELOSI: The point is, is that there are equities to be weighed and we are here to have a conversation -- TRUMP: Correct. PELOSI: -- in a careful way, so I don't think we should have a debate in front of the press on this. TRUMP: We would do it immediately. We will get it passed very easily in the House. PELOSI: No, that's not the point. TRUMP: We will get it -- PELOSI: Again, let us have our conversation and then we can meet with the press again. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Wait a second, wait a second. I thought the liberals were all about transparency and protecting the guardians of the truth. But the moment the guardians report on their conversations, Nancy wants them shooed out of the room. This exchange shows in dramatic fashion why Trump has so confounded the establishment. He pulls the veil back, allowing the American people to see just how unreasonable and how petty the Democrats have become. Because an agreement on wall funding may give Trump I guess a partial victory. They refused to budge, even if the DACA kids end up getting a path to citizenship in the process, which they would've gotten last February. And no matter how much a deal would help the country, guess what? The Democrats don't care. Score settling and preventing Trump from declaring victory on something. And that's the "Angle." Joining me now with a reaction is Raheem Kassam, Lincoln fellow at the Claremont Institute and author of the new piece, "Time's Failing Person of the Year List a Product of Cultural Decline." David Goodfriend, former aide to President Clinton is also here along with Jeffrey Lord, contributing editor to "The American Spectator" and former aide to President Reagan. Raheem, let's start with you. Your thoughts on the failure of the media and Democrats who can't seem to grasp the current moment. What happened today for instance? RAHEEM KASSAM, LINCOLN FELLOW, CLAREMONT INSTITUTE: They love slapping themselves on the back. And the "Time" magazine cover is just more of them slapping themselves on the back and saying, you know, we are the people that you should all aspire to and that you should all listen to. I mean, you remember when, I think it was the Hillary Clinton e-mails came out and they said, you know, you are not supposed to read this. The public aren't supposed to read it but we will filter this for you and you just listen to what we say. And the same thing you saw happening today as well. I mean, imagine that room, imagine the Oval Office if the roles have been reversed and those were Republican sitting there and it was a Democrat president, you know, with the press have gone to such great extent as they did today to go, oh, what an absolute mania happened today in the Oval Office. This is unbelievable. It's extraordinary. And they wouldn't have done it and they never did it under Obama. Remember, Obama used to kick people out of press conferences too. But it only gets reported on President Trump. So for me, you know, the two things couldn't have timed themselves, you know, better together today. The "Time" magazine front cover and what we saw unfold in the Oval Office. INGRAHAM: David, here are some of the persons of the year runners up. We had Mueller. You can actually make a decent case for Mueller being a person of the year. You had Merkel. Let's give a nod to the Brits with Merkel. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Please don't. INGRAHAM: You had Putin. You had Blasey Ford, Jae-in, and then you had -- it says David Trump on my sheet but I assume they mean Donald Trump. So, journalists giving awards to other journalists, I mean, there's lots of heroism out there. We have some ideas coming up later on in the show, but it's a little self-serving, don't you think? And it's part of the bubble of the media and politics, which I am probably part of, I try not to be, but I'm here so I'm probably part of the problem. DAVID GOODFRIEND, FORMER SURROGATE, HILLARY FOR AMERICA: Well, you invite me on your show so I like you. INGRAHAM: But I like you so that's okay. We like each other. (CROSSTALK) GOODFRIEND: So, I am going to shock Raheem here and say that I don't often agree with things I read in "The Daily Caller." I don't often agree with what you write, Raheem. However, I do think Bob Mueller would have been an excellent choice. I mean, we have a memo now that names the president as an unindicted co-conspirator. When was the last time that has happened? INGRAHAM: They have a news (inaudible). GOODFRIEND: We have 33 indictments around the world, not just Americans. We have senior White House staff who have been convicted or -- INGRAHAM: They don't say unindicted co-conspirator. Wait a second. Are we supposed to be the guardians of the truth here? They don't say that. Name one place that says that. GOODFRIEND: Individual one. It says individual one was working with Cohen and that is exactly -- INGRAHAM: Don't throw that word co-conspirator around, partner. You're getting a little ahead of yourself there. GOODFRIEND: Unindicted co-conspirator, but I agree with you. I agree with you. I think Bob Mueller would have been a fantastic choice because he really has changed the world. Not since Richard Nixon have we seen -- INGRAHAM: Journalists are self-serving, all right, let's go Jeffrey. GOODFRIEND: I think that was a good choice. I back Bob Mueller as (inaudible). KASSAM: The great -- INGRAHAM: Yes. We got to get to Jeff. KASSAM: -- it's great talking points, but put it this way. It says for better or worse, people that impacted the world. GOODFRIEND: Yes. KASSAM: And Bob Mueller did do that. I agree. I agree. INGRAHAM: When they gave it to Trump, Jeffrey, we don't want to spend a lot of time on this -- when they gave it to Trump, it has to be this snarky comment. This is back in 2016, he shocks the world by winning the presidency. They had to give it to him. You know they hated to give it to him for, "reminding America that demagoguery feeds on despair and that truth is only as powerful as the trust in those who speak it." You know, then the picture of Obama is so like aspirational then the picture of Trump is this menacing figure in a wingback chair, like turning around. Trump looks like -- it's just right down to the photo they selected. So obvious. JEFFREY LORD, CONTRIBUTING EDITOR, AMERICAN SPECTATOR: My favorite is that in 2008 when President Obama was elected and was selected as Person of the Year, I'm not kidding you. They compared him to Obi-wan Kenobi. Seriously. And then we get to Donald Trump, and he's the president of the divided states of America and he's a demagogue and all of this. I mean, this is what they do. This is why "Time" magazine has been sold three times, gotten rid of by its parent company, bought by somebody else who then sold it again a few months after they got it. INGRAHAM: Yes, a diminishing readership. LORD: I mean, their audience is going down, right. INGRAHAM: This is a shtick. The magazines love doing lists because lists always sell. Click, click, click, al the top 10 this. It's lazy journalism. OK. So we got to move to Pelosi because Pelosi reacted after the Oval Office, which you couldn't take your eyes off of it. It was wild today. She comes out and she makes a comment about why she was concerned about the transparency of it all here let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PELOSI: I will say this. You want to know if it was more productive behind the scenes. I hear some of the reporters saying, the Fox reporters saying why do you not want transparency in this discussion? We don't want to contradict the president when he was putting forth figures that had no reality to them, no basis in fact. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Raheem, no basis in fact? I mean, Donald Trump has wanted a wall for more than three years. He's arguing and fighting for the wall, I guess she is referring to when said certain sectors have less immigration. I'm not sure whether that was accurate. I've never have gotten a read on that. I'm not sure if that was accurate or not, but she's not shy about criticizing him ever in public. KASSAM: For somebody who makes her, you know, makes her living by criticizing this president, you would think she would want every camera in the room. If she is so certain that he is saying falsehoods, then put all the cameras in the world in the room and get everyone to report on it. It seems utterly bizarre - to take it back from sort of partisan politics, but from a campaigning standpoint which is what she's doing her. You would want that if you believe you were in the right. You only don't want that if you don't believe you're in the right or that you don't believe that you're oratory (ph) can cut through with the American people and I think she gets that. INGRAHAM: Again, weren't Democrats always against -- weren't Democrats -- a lot of Republicans as a populist were against the backroom deals, a smoke-filled rooms where the decisions are made, and all the people come out afterward and say this is how you dumb little people are going to live because we already made the decision. Backslapping. We had beer together. Then we're going to tell you how to live. These cameras come in and we actually see what they say when they're a little nervous. You see the body language of Schumer. I loved it from beginning to end. I love seeing the (inaudible) with Trump. Great. GOODFRIEND: I don't know if it's the British accent or the ascot (ph). I'm agreeing with you so much. We are not making for good television, but I will tell you this. I will tell you this. No disrespect to Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer, but did you notice who was missing? Did you notice who was missing? The people actually running the Congress. Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan who are actually running the Congress right now. They are running the lame duck Congress. These people have nothing to do with the final deal. You need to have all of the leaders there and that's why it was such good television, Laura, because it was cited by Donald Trump -- INGRAHAM: But wasn't that -- admit it, wasn't it brilliant for Trump to call them in? I mean, he came in and they came into his sandbox. GOODFRIEND: And Laura, then -- but I'll tell you this. The shutdown is still going to be on -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Hold on. We are going to get to the shutdown. We're getting to the politics of the shutdown and the mechanics of what's going to happen in the next block, but Jeffrey, I think this was classic Trump, taking control of the narrative. It wasn't all clean and perfect, believe me. And I think a couple things he said I might've said them differently. But he was engaged. He was engaged and was like, look, we are doing this. LORD: He just loves this stuff. Yes, yes, that's exactly right. And if you notice, you couldn't help but notice Nancy Pelosi's little dig. She says when reporter asked and then she backs up and says a Fox reporter. Oh, my goodness. Heaven forbid. Did somebody commit journalism in the Oval Office? You know, it's just astounding. INGRAHAM: I think it's, again, we're getting back to the theme of my "Angle," the guardians of the truth. And when these 44 senators come out, bipartisan, they come out with the big op-ed. And Panetta was one of the. I want to play a little snippet from what he said today with Andrea Mitchell. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LEON PANETTA, FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF FOR PRESIDENT CLINTON: We have just seen a perfect example of how not to govern the country. To have that kind of dispute and do it openly before the press at a time when they really do need to sit down and see if there's a way to work out a deal here. But to confront each other that way and to have everybody yelling at one another, I think it's just to sent a terrible message to the American people about how our democracy functions in Washington. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Does he know his history? How democracy -- they were dueling and he was carving (ph) -- Democracy is rough and tumble. People are arguing at their dinner tables. It's OK. We are going to survive an Oval Office (inaudible). Why worry about it? GOODFRIEND: I understand, but listen. Don't you think that there is a difference between theatrics and results? If that debate -- INGRAHAM: Yet, Trump gets results. They do personal invective. GOODFRIEND: Well, if he shuts down the government, is that a good result? KASSAM: Yes. INGRAHAM: I think, absolutely. GOODFRIEND: OK. OK. The majority of Americans through the polling just occurred in the election, seem to disagree. So we will find out again. INGRAHAM: It didn't hurt them last time it happened. GOODFRIEND: Actually, you just lost the House and actually you say that's just fine. I agree. That's really is what conservatives think. INGRAHAM: 2013 shutdown, that didn't hurt the Republicans. KASSAM: No. Everyone has to agree all the time as you and I have to agree all the time. GOODFRIEND: Correct. That is correct. KASSAM: But there is a goal in mind. That man was elected on that goal and he is going to do it. INGRAHAM: He's got to get that wall built and there's got to be a wall. It can't be a patchwork of see-through drones. All right, Jeffrey, sorry, we've got to go. We'll have a longer segment next. Sorry about that. Since "Time" magazine couldn't pick a satisfying person of the year, were going to do it later on in the hour. Up next, we're beyond the borders. Stay there. INGRAHAM: This is a Fox News alert. We had another terror attack on a Christmas market in Europe. This time near the city of Strasbourg, France and officials there are confirming that three people were killed and another 12 wounded when the terrorists sprayed gunfire into the holiday crowd and then took off. French authorities confirming the suspect previously known to authorities and at this hour, he is still outstanding. We will update you on any developments as they come to us. Very disturbing news out of France tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PELOSI: A shutdown is not worth anything and that we should not have a Trump shutdown. You have the White House -- TRUMP: Did you say Trump? PELOSI: You have the White House. You have the Senate. You have the House of Representatives. You have the vote. You should pass it. TRUMP: But I can't get it pass in the House if it's not going to pass in the senate. I don't want to waste time. PELOSI: Well, the fact is, you can get started that way. TRUMP: The House we can get passed very easily and we do, but the problem is the Senate because we need 10 democrats to vote and they won't vote. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, Pelosi challenged the president and Republicans in the House and they might call her bluff. House Republicans said late today they will try to pass a $5 billion funding bill for the wall. This would be a stunning rebuke of Nancy Pelosi. And my question is, would a shutdown put pressure on Schumer to cough up the Democratic votes needed to avoid a filibuster? For answers we are joined by House majority whip Steve Scalise and former acting head of ICE and Fox News contributor Tom Homan. Congressman, was this part of a coordinated plan? Was this all planned out or was this the president kind of shooting from the hip on his own instincts? REP. STEVE SCALISE (R), HOUSE MAJORITY WHIP: Well, Laura, this is the president saying I'm going to call you on your bluff, you know. You want to talk about shutting down the government. You want to talk about blocking border security. I'm going to bring you to the White House and lay out exactly why we need to secure the border. And frankly, President Trump laid out a lot of real important specific details of why it's important that we secure the border. The illegal crossings that happen every single day, 10 known terrorists according to Homeland Security on average that come across our border every day. And the caravan, over 600 convicted criminals that are part of the caravan. We need to secure the border. President Trump ran on securing the border. It's time we back him up on it. INGRAHAM: Tom, look, you've been in the fight and the thick of this for so long and I frankly -- I said this on the radio this morning -- I cannot believe we are here. The country is -- this is a crisis at our southern border. Toxic environmental mess, health crisis, humanitarian. little kids' lives are being endangered down there, human trafficking, drugs, guns, all the rest, gang activity. And that's just getting started. TOM HOMAN, FOMER ACTING ICE HEAD: I have said it over and over again. Look, I don't care if Republican or Democrat, there is no downside on securing our border. It means less illegal immigration which means you don't bankroll the criminal organization that kill our officers and there is less illegal immigration. Let's drive (inaudible) less illegal immigration. I don't see the downside. The only thing I think, I wish Trump would have asked Schumer on camera what you voted for in 2006 to build a barrier. What changed other than the anti- Trump agenda? INGRAHAM: Yes. Kellyanne Conway made that point earlier and others. I mean, Obama, all these guys spoke so passionately about the need to have this fence but now Trump says it's a wall and no, no, we only got to give a pittance of the money. By the way, Jackie Speier, congressman, spoke out today. I want to share it with you. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. JACKIE SPEIER (D), CALIFORNIA: So he could set up that opportunity to test out his theory that he has the votes. I don't think he has the votes in the House. He's acting like he's a cornered animal and he lashes out. That's not the description of any president that I want in charge of our country. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK. Back to the point I made in the last segment. Rather than offer a substantive menu of solutions here, it is personal invective. It is Trump is this, Trump is that. He's a dictator -- it's like you hear what she said. There is no solution. They're not going to argue about how we are going to do it better or we actually have a plan for reforming asylum laws that's really going to cut the flow. It is Trump is a bad person. Is she right though? Do you have the votes? SCALISE: Laura, first of all, there is strong support in the House -- INGRAHAM: Do you have the votes? SCALISE: -- for securing the border and given the president -- INGRAHAM: What does that mean? Do you have the votes for the wall? SCALISE: So if the president says $5 billion is what I need and ideally you try to get an agreement with the Senate and that means you have to have some Democrats as part of that agreement, but if not, we can pass in the House. We've been trying to get an agreement with the senate because ultimately to get the bill to the president's desk has been the objective, not just to pass a bill in the house, but ultimately we can pass a bill in the house. The president is saying I will at least meet with Senate Democrats and House Democrats to see if we can get an agreement. The president is trying to get an agreement to solve the problem. I think what you are seeing right now and today was on display in the White House. A Washington Democrats want open borders more than they want it for the government. INGRAHAM: They don't want to give him a win. Isn't that a big part of this? SCALISE: That's a big part of it. INGRAHAM: He could have solved this last January and February during the other mini shutdown when the president said give me chain migration cuts, the visa lottery. We wanted E-Verify. SCALISE: And Chuck Schumer initially agreed to all of those things, and then the radical left is the ones who went and blew the whole deal up. INGRAHAM: The president also said something about the wall and its current state that made me curious. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: A lot of wall has been built. We don't talk about that, but we might as well start, because it's being built right now, big sections of wall. And we will continue that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I must have missed the wall being built. What wall? Where's it being built? TOM HOMAN, FORMER ACTING ICE DIRECTOR: I think what he means is they are upgrading certain parts. INGRAHAM: That's not a wall. Stop saying it's a wall. There's no wall. If you want a wall, say we don't have the wall. I know it's bad because he made the promise, but they are not building the wall. So you've got to stop saying that. That undercuts -- he was great. I thought he was great in the Oval Office. You don't have to -- SCALISE: He was great, but understand, there is about 100 miles of wall being built, but that's not anywhere near where we need to go to get this job done. So there is a small start, but there's a lot more work to be done. INGRAHAM: That's not a lot of the wall. What is it, 1,600 miles? That's not a wall. HOMAN: It's not the wall that Border Patrol wanted. Border Patrol has rangers that -- INGRAHAM: Is someone is telling him that, they're giving him -- HOMAN: The wall they want is the one they need and the one that should be funded. That's not what was funded in the last bill. SCALISE: But they also want the technology and the tools to keep our Border Patrol agents. And you've seen this, Laura, you've highlighted it. Our Border Patrol agents are under attack by a lot of the criminals in this caravan. We need the tools to keep our Border Patrol agents safe who are keeping America safe. That's part of this -- INGRAHAM: I still say if we don't reform those asylum laws, people will be pouring in on those -- SCALISE: By the way, every single member of the caravan was offered asylum by Mexico and work permits by Mexico and they turned it down. INGRAHAM: We've got to keep the pressure on the Democrats. They are on the wrong side of this, and the American people are with the Republicans on this. SCALISE: American people want border security. Let's go get it. HOMAN: You hit the nail on the head when you said this is an anti-Trump agenda. They don't want to give him a win. You've got Schumer and Pelosi, both support sanctuary policies in their states. So they want a sanctuary policy to keep illegal aliens in, but they don't want to fund the wall to keep him out. You have two of the worst people in the Oval Office to even talk about border security. They put their political futures out of this country's security, which is their number one responsibility. Shame on them. INGRAHAM: California and New York. HOMAN: They entice people to come here illegally. INGRAHAM: He might be in New York City, he gives them all the ideas, they get whatever they want. They get their IDs and they get their ability to work, no problem. HOMAN: Absolutely. Come to New York City or come to California, get to a sanctuary state, we won't work with ICE. Welcome. INGRAHAM: We'll demonize ICE. Guardians of the galaxy, I don't think so. All right, guys, thank you so much, great to see you. And coming up, we've warned you about the deep hatred at the root of the Women's March. There is another Women's March coming up soon in the new year. We have an expose that looks into their shocking origins and the Democrats that it puts at risk. Don't miss this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. KAMALA HARRIS, (D) CALIFORNIA: I know we will rise to the challenge, and I know we will keep fighting no matter what. (END VIDEO CLIP) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND, (D) NEW YORK: This is the moment you will remember when women stood strong and stood firm. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS, (D) CALIFORNIA: We are tired as women of being relegated to simply being thought of as a particular constituency or demographic. Let's buckle in, because it's going to be a bumpy ride. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, those two supposed Democratic rock stars have become some of the more powerful advocates of the radical group known as the Women's March. Some new details on how that group was started. However, we may have them rethinking their association. Trace Gallagher is life out on our west coast newsroom with the shocking origin story of the group. Trace? TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: And Laura, the dichotomy here is certainly stunning. As part of its mission statement the Women's March says it's committed to finding anti-Semitism, and yet two of its leaders and most public figures, Tamika Mallory and Carmen Perez, have praised Nation of Islam leader and known anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan. Mallory has called him the greatest of all time and was in attendance this year at Farrakhan's annual address where he gave Tamika Mallory a shout out, then proceeded to give a speech replete with anti-Semitic and homophobic remarks. The Women's March says Farrakhan's statements don't align with the group's principles, and Mallory's presence at his annual address was bad judgment. Yet Perez and Mallory have disavowed his comments, and now "Tablet" magazine is reporting that during the Women's March first meeting back in November of 2016, both Mallory and Perez endorsed an infamous and debunked anti-Semitic trope that Jews exploited black and brown people and were proven to be leaders of the American trade. The controversy is also gaining notice because the Women's March has become, as you noted, a powerful organization and has been endorsed by potential 2020 presidential candidates like California Democratic Senator Kamala Harris and New York Democratic Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, both of whom spoke at the Women's March pre-rally in January, 2017. It's also worth noting that despite allegations of anti-Semitism among some leaders, Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, the Jewish founders of Ben & Jerry's ice cream, are standing by their partnership with Women's March. Even marking the partnership with a brand-new flavor, Pecan Resist. Laura? INGRAHAM: Trace, thanks so much. And joining me as Ann Coulter, conservative commentator, and Ladawn Jones, a Democratic state rep in Georgia and criminal defense attorney. All right, Ann, why aren't Gillibrand and Kamala Harris and all the other female Democratic leaders who back this group, why aren't they being pressed by any members of the media every time they step in front of a microphone given the connection between the Nation of Islam leader Farrakhan and this group? By the way, their march, I know, Ann, you and I should go, it's January 19th, coming up. ANN COULTER, AUTHOR, "RESISTANCE IS FUTILE": Totally. I will be there. Laura, I think you know the answer that question. I think we're going to be seeing a lot of these disputes in the Democratic Party base because they all hate one another. You have the Muslims and the Jews and the various exotic sexual groups in the black church ladies with the college queers. The only thing that keeps the Democratic base together is for them to keep focusing on white men are the ones keeping you down. You must hate white men. It's the one thing they all have in common. So as it becomes increasingly clear that we are not going to get a wall or Trump fulfilling his immigration policies, the one thing we have to look forward in the new country is just ginning up all these hatred in the Democratic base. INGRAHAM: One of the things that was written, Ladawn, about the group, and this is this new "Tablet" piece. This was by Mercy Morganfield comments about, she's the D.C. coordinator of the march, said this, "Bob Bland called me secretly and said Mercy, they've been in bed with the Nation of Islam since day one. They do all of our security." Is that the group you want doing your security given the most hateful anti-Semitic comments made over the years by Farrakhan, calling Jews termites most recently and any number of assorted sordid things he's said? LADAWN JONES, (D) GEORGIA STATE REPRESENTATIVE: Last time I checked, it is not common for you to ask for the religious preferences of the people who are protecting you when there are those who are threatening your life simply because you are standing up for a woman's right to vote, a woman's right to equal pay. This is a silly nonstarter by conservatives trying to split a movement that they know is externally powerful. And they are afraid of this next march coming up because they know it will get even more women, progressive women, into office just like it did in this past election. You guys should come out. You might learn a thing or two. INGRAHAM: Actually, I think we are not the ones who are making a big deal of this. I think actually some of the founders of the march themselves are very concerned about this anti-Semitic taint within the organization. I think they want the march to be successful, and I don't blame them. They put together an amazing array of people, it was a huge turnout. But if the shoe were on the other foot, and it was a bunch of conservatives getting together, and all of a sudden the security for the group was like some David Duke type guy, you guys would be rightly saying, what are you doing? Why are you having them do the security? I don't think we would get away, Ann, with saying they are doing security. We don't ask their political views. COULTER: You don't have to hypothesize it. There's this group the Proud Boys. They have defended me all over America. And by the way, they are quite multiethnic. And I don't ask what their religion is. They are attacked by being accused of being a group of white men. Like I say, that's the only thing that keeps the Democratic base together, they keep hating white men. Even though the Proud Boys are not only white men, but what are they being attacked for? For defending people like me. INGRAHAM: There's another piece, Mercy, a piece of this "Tablet" article, and I'll read it. "It was there that Perez and Mallory allegedly first asserted that Jewish people bore a special collective responsibility as exploiters of black and brown people, and even, according to a close secondhand source, claimed that Jews were proven to have been leaders of the American slave trade." So this was some of the conspiracy theories at the 2016 inaugural Women's March meeting. Are you concerned about any of that? JONES: Not even remotely concerned. Listen, the organizers have all, and it was quoted in the "Tablet" article, they have denied that this even took place. This, again, is just an attempt to try to slow down a movement that conservatives are really afraid of. Listen, if you know anything about the Women's March or if you look at their website, you see that the entire purpose is intersectionality, is about inclusiveness. It's about bringing in people of all races, all genders, and all religions to stand up for a common purpose, which is American women. And I can get why conservatives are concerned, because they know that is a tie that binds us as American, worry about our children, worry about the economy. And it's one of those things you can't split up. INGRAHAM: We just heard Kamala Harris who said she was sick of being treated as a demographic group in that sound bite we bumped in with, but that seems like what the Women's March is kind of doing to itself. I don't think there were a lot of pro-life Democratic women at the march. I don't think so. I don't think I saw many of them showcase. It was more of the celebrities screaming about how they wanted to blow up the White House. Was it diverse? What do you mean diverse? Diverse in what way? Not intellectual diversity. COULTER: The feminists can't even get along with the transgenders. In Los Angeles, you have Mexicans and blacks fighting like banshees. In New York, it's Puerto Ricans against the Dominicans. The idea that you can just step forward and say we are for unity and tolerance -- no. Like I said, this will be the one fun we will have the new country. The great accomplishment of the Women's March seems to be selling a lot of t-shirts. INGRAHAM: We will see what happens. COULTER: Actually. We know in 2018 there was a record number turnout of women who got elected to the Democratic Party. I know that's not usual since they have all white males who were elected, except for the one white female that was elected. But diversity is part of the story. COULTER: White men are still running your party, whereas only about 20 percent of the Democratic voters are white men but, wow, look at the leadership. Look at all the Democrats running. Your nominee is probably going to be Beto O'Rourke. There are only a few women even running. White men run your party. If you have anybody to complain to, it's the Democratic Party. INGRAHAM: Come on, Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden are very diverse, Ann. That's not fair at all. But I think the Women's March, look, I don't agree with them, but they did turn a lot of people. And the Republicans have to take a page out of some of the organizing of the Democrats. But I appreciate the conversation, guys, thanks so much. By the way, are we witnessing a 21st century version of segregation? Seriously. Wait until you hear about a vacation promotion that bans people from participating based on their skin color. The heated debate next. INGRAHAM: Do you know there's something of a booming tourism sector focused solely on black people who don't want to be around white people? It's not a joke. "Vice News" traveled one of the resorts catering to these customers who say it's their only way to escape racism in the United States. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The breath in is the reminder that we are safe. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We needed a safe space that was outside the United States to hold certain conversations. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Would having white people on this trip ruin it? EMMA DUNCAN: I don't think we would be as open and as honest as we are with the group that we are in now. CHRISTINE DONNELLY: We're looking for ways, coping mechanisms, and ways to take care of ourselves, because we are not on the agenda. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I feel like white people shouldn't even have passports, because they've done enough -- especially white Americans. Leave them in the United States. They do not need to come here. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They've shouldn't even be able to travel. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They need to stay in the United States. My tip to white people is to let us have our space. Let us have our room, and go hang out with other white people. We are OK. You've done enough damage. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: my breath is taken away. That woman you just heard is Andrea X. She is the founder of the Women of Color Retreat in Costa Rica. And she went on to say that she's not doing this as a type of reverse racism. Really? Here to debate this, Horace Cooper, co-chair of Project 21, and Democratic strategist Antjuan Seawright. Horace, if you replace white with any other group, what do you think the reaction would be? I think we are the only ones doing this on cable news which I can't believe. I saw this and I almost fell over. You can't really be serious. Now we're self- segregating, which people can do whatever they want, but then don't claim that you are all tolerant. HORACE COOPER, CO-CHAIR, PROJECT 21: This is worse than that. This actually is bigotry. This actually is racism. Look, what we are talking about is people using justified language in their own minds for saying it's OK not to associate with them or their kind. We don't want to travel with them. We don't want them to be able to fly. INGRAHAM: They should stay in the United States, I love that. That was a good one. COOPER: Any time that my grandparents would've heard phrases like that, we knew what they meant and what they were trying to express. It was separatism. It was you stay over. And we as a nation have come together to recognize that that kind of bigotry and that kind of ignorance shouldn't be welcomed. One last thing I wanted to say, and that is that we would be seeing boycotts. We would be seeing all -- heads exploding. INGRAHAM: Boycotts? COOPER: If Expedia allowed you to purchase your whites only cruise, do you understand how seriously the left would take that? INGRAHAM: I want to play something for you, Antjuan. This is more from the retreat cofounder. And this is from again from "Vice News." Do we have it? Let's listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What would you say to someone who is like it sounds like paradise for black people, in some ways it's motivated by the same hate that white people who want to create white nations and white spaces have? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I would say doesn't have anything to do with them. This is about us feeling our community. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Your thoughts? It's not about racism. ANTJUAN SEAWRIGHT, FOUNDER AND CEO OF BLUEPRINT STRATEGY: So a couple things. I don't necessarily agree with the approach and how it was couched, maybe some of her language use. But let's be honest. These things happen. They just may not always be broadcast. And the truth of the matter is, and again I'm not agreeing with their tactic and what it is, but the truth of the matter is boys have trips all the time in which girls are not allowed. Corporations go on retreats et cetera were certain groups are not allowed, where they have it's just them. INGRAHAM: Corporate? Whites only corporations? SEAWRIGHT: No, I am saying corporate retreats. INGRAHAM: They don't bring the competition to their retreat. What are you talking about? SEAWRIGHT: Corporate retreats happen in which it is just them and their group of people -- INGRAHAM: Right, the leadership of the company. That's not racially exclusive. SEAWRIGHT: Again, I'm not justifying what she did. What I'm saying, these exclusive trips happen. But again, I think that's wrong. INGRAHAM: Look, the thing I wanted to get at, and I guess we don't have this particular sound bite, but she said every time a have a conversation with white people, I just pick up on certain things that they say. I pick up on the microaggressions, the passive aggressiveness. I pick up on it. So I decided one day just to eliminate white people for my personal life. And ever since then, my life has been way more breezy. That's the founder of this organization. SEAWRIGHT: I think that feeds into this narrative and it gives fuel to the fire of racism and hate and bigotry and all the things that divide us in this country. So I fundamentally do not agree with their approach. INGRAHAM: You're not like this. You wouldn't go on this. This is where you just got to say this is ridiculous. SEAWRIGHT: I'm here with you, Laura. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: But Horace, I think there is something, though, in this, that we are at a point where we are supposed to be, everyone, just be cool. People are different, the different races, different backgrounds, different ethnicities. Let's try to come together and everyone have a solution to something. But instead it's you are over there, and I'm here. I thought separate but equal wasn't OK. I thought it had to be together. Thurgood Marshall. COOPER: Again, that's the point here. Again, imagine what if a group of fraternity members all white, all-male, said they were just going to regularly -- SEAWRIGHT: Let's not assume those things don't happen, though. COOPER: Let's see what would happen if someone came out on the news, "Vice News" ran a story about these. Those individuals will lose their job. They would lose their jobs, their livelihoods would be changed. INGRAHAM: I am happy to go on vacation with both of you any time, as long as your wives are OK. All together, exclusive. SEAWRIGHT: Inclusive, not exclusive. INGRAHAM: Inclusive. Good idea. Great to have you both on. All right, coming up, since "Time" routinely disappoints with their pick of person of the year, we reveal "The Ingraham Angle's" list next. A hint -- it was a tie. Stay there. INGRAHAM: OK, to heck with the "Time" magazine persons or people of the year. We decided to highlight an "Ingraham Angle" person of the year. Ready? It is a tie. The first are the heroic first responders who risk life and limb to respond to the tragic and devastating Paradise fire out in California. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: County 13, it's bad. He guys, go up towards the left. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are they coming for us? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Watch out, watch out! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jess! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Amazing. The second are the border agents who, despite being constantly maligned, go about doing their job keeping this country safe. We spoke to Chief Rodney Scott of the San Diego sector in June. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RODNEY SCOTT, BORDER PATROL CHIEF AGENT, SAN DIEGO: The misinformation that's going on... INGRAHAM: That's a nice way of putting it by the way. SCOTT: I'm trying to be polite. It's actually very frustrating and it's extremely insulting. So a lot of us just flat out why (ph). (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Congratulations to our agents and our first responders always putting serving others above self and the recipients of the first ever INGRAHAM ANGLE Persons (ph) of the Year Award. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the FOX NEWS @ NIGHT team, have a jam-packed show that take it from here. Shannon? Load-Date: December 12, 2018 End of Document Interview with Sen.Lindsey Graham (R), South Carolina; Interview with White House Senior Adviser Jared Kushner; Jared Kushner Talks about the Importance of Reforming the Criminal Justice System, Said It Will Benefit a Lot of People Who Have Not Committed Worse Crimes to Have a New Life and Be Able to Become Productive in the Society; Former FBI Director James Comey Set to Face Lawmakers Again Next Week to Answer Questions about the Investigation of Trump and What He Knew about the Dossier that Was Used Against the President; A Psychology Professor at Minnesota State University at Mankato Accused God of Being a Predator for Impregnating the Virgin Mary "Without Her Consent" Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST December 10, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7422 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Catherine Herridge, Newt Gingrich Guests: Lindsey Graham, Jared Kushner, Cathy Areu Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Welcome to this busy night of HANNITY, where a lot of breaking news and analysis, I promise you will not get anywhere else. FISA abuse, FISA fraud, fraud committed upon courts, Russian lies paid for by the Clinton campaign and the DNC, bribery. We had American uranium, the foundational materials for nuclear weapons, oh, they go to Russia and Putin in exchange for what appears to be kickbacks. Fraud, pay to play, rampant corruption, and conflicts of interest everywhere. And for years, what has happened? The Democratic Party, the Clintons, the media, some of and their highest ranking officials we have now learned in the last two years inside of your government fleecing the American people, committing serious crimes. But tonight, the mainstream media in America, the Democrats, the deep state cronies obsessing over one thing and one thing only, their fantasy, their imaginary campaign finance allegations against President Trump. Now, we're going to break all of this down, which is the left's desperate final attempt to destroy, delegitimize, and unseat a duly elected president, overturn your vote. Plus, we'll show you how disgraced FBI Director James Comey -- you may have just implicated himself. And stay tuned. In just moments, I will sit down for a rare one-on-one interview with Jared Kushner. Also, Newt Gingrich, Senator Lindsey Graham will join us tonight. And you won't believe, this is insane, what a liberal professor is saying about God and the Virgin Mary. We'll get to all of that, but it's time for our breaking news opening monologue. All right. So, it begins. Now, remember, just a few months ago during the midterms, I repeatedly warned you, pretty much every night about what the Democrats' real but hidden agenda was. The agenda they were hiding before the election. They want to impeach the president, they want open borders, get rid of ICE. They want their crumbs back desperately, more regulations and endless nonstop investigation into all things Donald Trump and his administration. Now every night as we go over the news, I want you to look at things from a different perspective. As we talk to these new newsmakers on the Democratic side. Ask yourself very important questions because you're going to come to a conclusion pretty quickly, I think. Are those in power that we show you every night -- ask yourself, if what they are doing is good for this country. To do their comments, do their remarks, do their actions, do they strengthen the country? Will what they are doing improve the lives of the American people? Help the American people? Advance our country, our country's interest? Now, you can forget about a red state, blue state, Democrat, Republican, conservative, liberal, left, right, it doesn't matter. Is what you're seeing good for the United States of America and the American people? Because as we speak, there are some in this country so filled with anti- Trump rage every second, every minute, every hour of every day that they are willing to say and to do anything to destroy the president, his family, delegitimize the 2016 election, even if America and we the people suffer as a result. Now, many months ago, I identified what I call the five forces that are actively working against the president. Obviously, it's Democrats, they hate him. Then you have, of course, the establishment media, they hate him. Never- Trumpers, they want to be justified in -- well, not being a part of electing somebody who has governed conservatively, establishment Republicans that are weak. And the deep state. And for almost two years, they have been totally obsessed, as we all know by now, Russia, Russia, Russia, with a few intermittent distractions like Stormy, Stormy, whatever else. But on Friday, those five forces suffered a serious setback when the special counsel's memos on Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen indicated no, none, no evidence of any Trump-Russia collusion. Zero. It's about taxicab medallions, loan applications, taxes in general, nothing about Russia or Trump. Now, the destroy Trump forces were kind of distraught, so they sent their selves into the predictable convulsions and then they settled on plan B, their backup plan, imaginary campaign finance violations against President Trump, that's what the Russia collusion was about. And in their sad and hate filled world, Michael Cohen's guilty plea to making illegal campaign contributions will surely result in the end of President Trump once and for all, or so they say. Let's take a look at this manufactured but predictable hysteria. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a man who came in and said, I'm bigger than the House, I'm bigger than the intelligence community, I'm bigger than checks and balances, I'm bigger than the judicial community, I'm bigger than the free press. And he is only going to pay for that for the rest of his life. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When immigrants procure their citizenship by fraud, we strip them of their citizenship. When a president procures his presidency by fraud, should we consider doing the same? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think the American people would support impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump will be, must be impeached. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's got to know his future looks like it's behind bars. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump is a criminal enterprise. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It certainly looks like they are the kind of offenses that would call for impeachment hearings. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You have this memorable phrase of individual number one. You know, it's going to go down I think in the history books along with some of those memorable Watergate phrases. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He may be the first president in quite some time to face the prospect of jail time. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When evidence become so clear that you're very likely have a criminal sitting in the Oval Office, what is the Congress left to do at that point? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: These are the same people that have been saying the same lies for two years and it is unfounded. According to FOX News legal analyst, our Gregg Jarrett, if Michael Cohen's nondisclosure payment to Stormy Daniels or anybody else served a secondary purpose or dual-purpose, then it is not considered a campaign contribution and thus not illegal. In other words, if the payment benefited the Trump Organization, the Trump brand name, even President Trump on a personal or family level, that's not against the law. It's as simple as that. And the president summed it up pretty perfectly on Twitter, writing, quote: There was no collusion, so now the Democrats go to a simple private transaction, wrongly call it a campaign contribution, which it was not, but even if it was, it is only a civil case like Obama's, but it was done correctly by a lawyer. And there would not be a fine, lawyer's liability if he made a mistake, not me. Cohen just trying to get his sentence reduced, which hunt. Now, remember that Cohen changed his story on this particularly issue, and it's fascinating because the liberal media and the Democrats -- they only want to pick the version that fits their desire political goal. They didn't believe him the first time. Even initially stated that the Daniels payment for example came out of his own pocket without the president's knowledge, and sadly, most of his alleged crimes do include lying and fraud. But the media wants to believe Cohen now. They don't like Michael Cohen. They have never liked Michael Cohen. And they are not his friend today. And meanwhile, the president has acted in accordance with the law. He committed no criminal campaign finance violation and he sure as hell never colluded with Russia, which is what this was supposed to be about. But then we have disgraced FBI Director James Comey. He's never let the presumption of innocence get in the way of his complete and total obsessive hatred for President Trump. Last night, he called on Americans to oust President Trump with, quote, every breath we have. But he is not bias at all, take a look. (BEGIN VIDO CLIP) JAMES COMEY, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR: All of us should use every breath we have to make sure that the lying stops on January 20th, 2021. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh, I guess he does not have a political agenda. The same guy that leaked information to get Robert Mueller appointed. Oh, that's the same Comey that might have espionage issues himself by releasing those documents and the same guy that -- well, may be in trouble himself with the law. I have some advice for Jim Comey, don't throw stones from a glass house. It's December, but the year of the boomerang is not quite over. Now, late last week, Comey testified behind closed doors on Capitol Hill about the multitude of serious controversies surrounding his leadership at the FBI, including FISA abuse, his handling of the Clinton investigation. And for a man who claims to have such integrity, such a great memory, he seemed to have a really hard time answering questions or remembering anything that matter, in fact, many of them in the room accused him of using his attorney is to run interference while another 245 times he says he can't remember one shape, matter or form. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REPORTER: The Republicans came out and said that a government lawyer ran the interference in sense (ph) to shut down of specific lines of questioning, did that happen? If so, what topics were not discussed? COMEY: One, you read the transcripts and I think you will see that not happening. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He did admit, by the way, that the Steele dossier was never verified. You know, the bulk of the FISA application, we'll get to that in a second. So, another lie from James Comey -- now, the transcript was out, it was happening over and over and over again, 250 times according to Trey Gowdy, during his testimony, he answered, I don't recall 71 times, get this, he stated, I don't know an additional 166 times. One lawmaker reportedly said, quote, his memory was so bad I fear that he might not remember how to get out of the room after the interview. Another claim, quote: It was like he suddenly developed Alzheimer's after conveniently remembering enough facts to sell his book. It's pretty awful. A lot of selective amnesia for someone who claims to be an innocent man. But even more troubling is this, it's something Comey actual said during this hearing. According to this transcript from Friday, he admitted that Hillary's bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier, the one that was used to commit a fraud four separate occasions on FISA courts was never verified either before or after the FISA warrant application. Let me explain this. In other words, the FBI and the DOJ had zero idea if what they were using to get one of the hardest warrants to get, a FISA warrant, zero clue whether any of the evidence was credible, true, and corroborated, which by law and by a protocol must happen as a matter of course. They spied on an American citizen, trampled on his Fourth Amendment constitutional rights. A Trump campaign associate with information paid for by the Clinton campaign and the DNC that we now know is completely and totally unverified. But wait, didn't Rod Rosenstein or Sally Yates, who signed off, signing off on the final FISA application, identity say that law enforcement if they are going to sign a FISA warrant, didn't he say that that officer must wear that the information in the FISA request is true and accurate? And if he got it wrong, there were serious consequences. I know, because -- well, I have the tape. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROD ROSENSTEIN, DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL: There is a lot of talk about FISA applications. And many people that I see talking about it seem not to recognize what a FISA application -- a FISA application is actually a warrant just like a search warrant. In order to get a FISA search warrant, you need an affidavit signed by a career federal law enforcement officer who swears that the information in the affidavit is true and correct to the best of his knowledge and belief. And that is the way that we operate. If it is wrong, sometimes it is, if you find out that that there is anything incorrect, that person is going to face consequences. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Comey is going to face consequences. Just waiting to find out what they were. And an American was spied on by your federal government, think about this, with a warrant based on what was on uncorroborated, unverified, opposition research, bought and paid for Russian lies by Hillary Clinton. And they never told the judge that Hillary paid for it. Ever. Multiple judges were lied to. Multiple frauds were committed on the FISA court. When will we hear from the FISA judges? Because those would be crimes in all likelihood, our own Gregg Jarrett has identified six specific felonies that would be applicable on this case alone. Now, if the left really cared about civil liberties, they would be demanding an investigation. They would care about equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws, and our constitutional rights. But like with everything else, the destroy-Trump forces, they're willing to put all of their hatred for the president above everything else, for them, it's always politics that trumps, no pun intended, all. It's the very reason they tried to ruin Justice Kavanaugh's life without any due process, without any presumption of innocence on a case that have been 36 years prior. But at the same time, they barely yawned, said nothing over recent abuse allegations, physical, emotional, against Keith Ellison, their number of two at the DNC. Many of the same people love Bill Clinton. None of them spoke out about Michael Avenatti. None of the -- if you are a Democrat, you do not get the Kavanaugh treatment. That is a very reason why they obsess about Russia, Russia for years, but they ignore the Uranium One scandal, where Vladimir Putin had a network inside this country, the foundational material of nuclear weapons, for crying out loud. Twenty percent of America's foundational material for nuclear weapons. Putin's network in America, we have a spy in there that's chronicling robbery, kickbacks, money laundering, extortion. And he is telling the FBI, then Robert Mueller, but the deal still went through, Hillary approved it. And guess what, her foundation ended up with people involved in that deal $145 million given to the Clinton Foundation. And yes, some of that uranium left the United States. Where's the outrage over that serious Russia scandal? Why would we ever allow Putin's thugs in America to get a hold of our uranium and we don't have enough uranium as a country? Where's that investigation? And in the case of Hillary's dirty dossier, OK, same year, 2016, Russian influence. Her campaign funneled millions of dollars, oh, through a law form, I bet if Paul Manafort or Michael Cohen did it, they'd be arrested. But anyway, then using an op research firm, hiring a foreign national who uses questionable spies from Russia, Christopher Steele puts together research from his sources in Russia. The dossier is based on Russian lies paid for by Hillary, literally leaked to the American people to influence the 2016 election. I thought we were investigating Russian influence on the election. No investigation into bought and paid for lies to influence the American people. So you think about this when you turn on these other networks or pick up a newspaper. You know, you think about this if you listen to any Democrat across this country and their sanctimony, and their lecturers talking about campaign finance, there's no Trump-Russia collusion. But we have major, major mistakes. Let's see, Vladimir Putin, tell Vladimir about more flexibility after the election, Dmitry Medvedev, or the Uranium One deal. Or what we were just talking about and that relates to the dossier. Joining us now, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. Senator, have one big question, you are laughing -- SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: That is allowed to unpack. That was pretty good. HANNITY: I care about -- I don't trust Putin. I think that he is a thug. I think he sent his thugs here. We had an FBI spy in his network. He is trying to get a foothold on our uranium industry, bribery, kickback, money -- we all knew about it, but they still signed off on the deal. And Hillary benefited through the foundation. She paid for a Russian dossier, full of lies. GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: Absolute lies that were disseminated for the American people. Where's that investigation, Senator? GRAHAM: Well, we should have had a special counsel appointed a long time ago to look at all things Clinton. So here's what I will do if I am the chair of the Judiciary Committee in the Senate next year. I'm going to look at the FISA warrant application, how much of it was based on the dossier, was there any information beyond the dossier offered to get the warrant? And if the dossier was unverified, how could you swear to the court that it was accurate? Somebody misled the court. So I promise you and your listeners that we're going to find out how this warrant was issued. How could a judge determine that there was probable cause if the only document was the dossier that was unverified? How did the system break down? HANNITY: Senator, I got to be honest. Not only did -- and that information was pushed out to the American people. They did not verify it nor did they tell the courts of something I believe is pertinent. That Hillary paid for it. Why would they not tell -- why would they hide that from the court? GRAHAM: So, to issue a warrant against an American citizen, to surveilled them under the FISA statute, the judge has to believe that there is probable cause that the person is connected to a foreign entity. If the document that the judge was given was paid for by a political party and the opposing candidate, and it was never verified and it's not verified to this day, what happens to those who submit the document to the court? If they're not punished, you're going to reinforce doing this in the future. Imagine if it was the Trump campaign, the RNC hired a foreign agent to get a political dossier against Clinton given to the court that turned out to be a bunch of garbage and it would be front page news all over the world. We're not going to let this go because it is important to the American people that the FISA warrant application process works correctly. HANNITY: Let me ask you this, when we get to the bottom, obviously, Comey is biased and wanted Hillary to win as was Peter Strzok who interviewed her and thought that you should win 100-0. My question is, are we going to go back to the investigation into the illegal server with classified and top-secret information on it, too? Are we going to get into the Uranium One? How did that ever happen? Was there a quid pro quo? And who would appoint a special counsel? Would it be the new attorney general? Can the president do it? Can you do it? GRAHAM: Well, it would be the new attorney general. And here's I think what's frustrating to you and others, is that when Mueller is done, nobody can doubt that Trump was looked very hard. They are trying to flip people right and left, none of that was done during the Clinton investigation. As a matter of fact, the people involved investigating Clinton wanted her to win and Trump to lose. So he never had the same scrutiny. I hope in the future that's corrected. HANNITY: Can the president get the five -- you are telling the president to hold out for the $5 billion on -- for the wall? Or don't do the deal? GRAHAM: Again, don't give in, get the five, begin put duck on the tail, make them say no to wall funding, make them say no to relief of the doctorate recipients. Stay strong, Mr. President. You got the right -- you're on the right side of this issue. HANNITY: All right. Lindsey Graham, good to see you. Thank you. And coming up, a rare exclusive one-on-one interview with senior adviser to the president, does not do many interviews, Jared Kushner, he is next. Also, Newt Gingrich tonight and the war on Christmas may be worse than ever -- straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now for a rare exclusive one-on-one interview, senior adviser to the president -- that would be Jared Kushner. Jared, good to see you. You hate doing these interviews. I do not blame you, who would want to come on and do this? JARED KUSHNER, SENIOR ADVISER TO PRESIDENT TRUMP: It's great to be with you, Sean. HANNITY: All right. A lot going on at the White House, let's start with the news a little bit. We got a new A.G. coming in. We are waiting for chief of staff. Obviously, two years of the Mueller probe hanging over everybody's head. Still no evidence of any collusion, but it seems like the pressure is ratcheting up. What is it like inside the White House? What can you tell us about these changes? KUSHNER: Well, first of all, I want to start by thanking General Kelly for his great service to this administration, General Kelly has served the state for 40 years, and over the last two years in particular, he's been very helpful to the president towards implementing a lot of the important parts of his successful agenda. So I want to start with that. I think the president right now is going to -- brought a new White House counsel today who just started and it's going to be fabulous, the president announced his pick for attorney general who will be quite good as well from what I am seeing. And right now, in the White House, we have a lot of people who are just working along and the president will make the right choice for chief of staff when he's ready. And, hopefully, he'll choose somebody who's got great chemistry with, great relationship with, who will help him navigate the next couple of years through all of the good opportunities that emerged to keep pushing forward. HANNITY: I'm 30 years in radio, 23 years now as a Fox News Channel. For example, news came out today that nobody in the news is ever going to talk about that the U.S. is now an oil exporting nation for the first time in 70 years. Add that to all of the other economic success and foreign policy success, you don't hear about it. You are inside that White House. If you turn on the TV, you know what you're going to hear every second, minute, hour of every day, how does that impact you and the rest of the White House? KUSHNER: I think that there is a large part of the White House that it really doesn't impact that much. You know, we know what the president wants to accomplish. He's very clear with what his objectives are. And our job is to come in every day, focus on those goals, how do we achieve them and keep moving along. Nobody really saw a lot of these numbers coming in terms of the oil experts and how we were going to make America an energy independent country, but we have accomplished that. That has been through a lot of great work of a lot of the cabinet secretaries, but really the leadership of the president to make that happen. So, again, there is a lot of stories that get a lot of attention in the news, but we have a lot of phenomenal people in the White House and the administration who show up to work every day, ignoring the noise that's out there and just focusing on how do we accomplish the objectives of the president which is to make our country more prosperous, increased wages for people, create more jobs and keep people safe. HANNITY: OK. One of the issues, you work on specific issues, I will ask you about the Middle East. I know that you have been working on those issues. I want to get into the issue of prison reform. I think one of the greatest moments in the president's history, he commutes a sentence of a woman by the name of Alice Marie Johnson. I'd actually a chance to interview her, and we have this video of her after what 20 years in jail, one drug offense, it was serious, but one. And she comes out and I will never forget what she said, she says thank you, America, thank you Mr. President. You won't regret giving me a second chance. And there is a big prison reform bill, and I know that you're spearheading it in terms of the White House. And I know that there has been reluctance and resistance, especially Mitch McConnell in the Senate and others, my question to you is, why it is -- what to do we need to do when you have a 77 percent recidivism rate, and -- are we locking people up but not equipping them to meet the challenges when they finally get out? What do you see as the biggest problem? KUSHNER: Right. So, this bill will accomplish a lot to make our community safer, the recidivism rate that we have is way too high. And not doing anything about that is irresponsible. And we are allowing people to go back to the communities who we can help. And there are a lot of programs based in red states that we have really modeled us off of. So, we know that this works. And we have been able to build a very strong bipartisan coalition under the president's leadership to come up with a bill that we think can really solve a lot of those problems. And what it is is going into the prisons and giving job training, vocational training, mentorship, mental health treatment, drug addiction treatment to people who are coming out who are nonviolent offenders and figuring out how when they leave prison, they have a better chance of getting a job in reentering society in a productive manner than going back to a life of crime. These reforms are based on what has worked and it will make a big difference. So, the president has built an amazing bipartisan coalition of Democrats and Republicans, and we are very close right now, and hopefully this will get to the floor and we will be able to have a big bipartisan celebration before Christmas. HANNITY: Violent offenders, those are people that you cannot let out. Those are people that got to serve their term, but on the other hand, I do think that there has been disproportionate sentencing, especially on, for example, on the cracker and powder cocaine issue, that is been proven over and over again. I would love to see the president -- and I don't know if this part of the package, transform the power of the pardon. Find, put up committees, find those people that we really believe have a very low chance of recidivism, one time offenders like Alice Marie Johnson and find them all and let them -- give them another chance with certain conditions, perhaps. KUSHNER: Right. Well, this bill does part of that, which is what it does it ranks all the different inmates who are in our federal prison system under a likelihood of committing a crime in the future. And it allows us to put the focus on the nonviolent people who have a low risk, somebody like Alice Marie Johnson, that case was a grave misjustice. And the president did a great job towards righting that wrong. That case really touched his heart and that was something where he realized that there was no reason for taxpayers to be paying to how somebody like Alice when she could be out in society and be a good role model for others. Taking the mistakes that she made and figuring out how to show other people how to not to make those same mistakes. Look, we have a great criminal justice system in this country, it's the best in the world, but it's still far from perfect. And this bill would do a lot to correct some racial disparities that we have in our system. HANNITY: Can we save money? Can we save the taxpayers money in the process? KUSHNER: Yes, absolutely, you know, we are putting too much money towards warehousing people who we don't need to be warehousing, that money instead should be going to law enforcement on the front lines to keep our communities safe. And if we do this right as we've seen in a of these Republican states, we've been able to reduce crime and also cost. Which is why this is something that is good. Again, this is a policy that we've been able to bring a lot of very smart people together, we've got a great coalition, and the reason we have been able to do that is because it's a data-driven model and it's based on things that work and have worked before. HANNITY: Last question, another area that you have been interested in is the Middle East, you have been on a number of trips, you've been to Jordan, Egypt, Israel, Saudi Arabia. You have talked to all these people. It seems like there is a moment where there is a new alliance or coalition emerging against Iranian hegemony and a potentially nuclear armed Iran, has that process been hurt as a result of the Khashoggi killing, what is the status? I know 17 individuals are being held responsible, and do you feel that we will get to the bottom of it if we haven't already. KUSHNER: I think that our intelligence agencies are making their assessments and we are hoping to make sure that there is justice brought where that should be, we are focused on the broader region which is figuring out how to hopefully bring a deal together between the Israelis and the Palestinians. That conflict has gone on for way too long. The president has been very focused on trying to bring all of the different parties together. And we are hopeful in the next couple of months we'll put out our plan which, again, not every side is going to love, but there is enough in it and enough reasons why people should take it and move forward. This plan will keep the Israeli people safe, give them a good future, but also give a real opportunity and hope for the Palestinian people so that they can live much better lives. I've been saying a lot that you shouldn't be hijacking your children's future because of your grandparents' conflict. And this is a conflict that has been going on for way too long. And the way the people are living in Gaza and in the West Bank right now is not acceptable. And there is a lot that we could be doing to improve their quality of life, but it comes with resolving some of the core issues. And it's not just the Israelis that wanted it, it's not just the Palestinian people who wanted, it's all of the people I speak to throughout the entire Middle East who would like to see this issue resolved so that they can focusing on a brighter future. HANNITY: All right. Jared Kushner, thanks for being with us. I appreciate your time. When we come back, disgraced FBI director James Comey set to face lawmakers again next week. Catherine Herridge has a full report, also Newt Gingrich weighs in, and later, an unbelievable story about a professor and what that professor said about the Immaculate Conception and the Virgin Mary. TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Live from America's news headquarters, I'm Trace Gallagher. People across the south trying to recover from a deadly storm that hit their region over the weekend. Tonight, at least three deaths are being blamed on the storm that blanketed five states with snow and freezing rain. Hundreds of thousands of homes remain without power. Icy roads also triggered hundreds of accidents and while the storm has now passed, people are being advised to stay home because of roadways that remain treacherous. President Emmanuel Macron admits he's partially responsibility for the anger that has fueled weeks of protest in France. In a televised address to the nation today, Macron said he may have given the impression he doesn't care about ordinary citizens and might have hurt people with his comments. Macron previously told an unemployed man that he could find a job if he, quote, "crosses the street." When news breaks out, we'll break in. I'm Trace Gallagher. Now back to Hannity. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with the latest breakdown of the Comey testimony, plus what we can expect when he returns to the Hill in one week for a second round of cushioning, Fox News chief intelligence correspondent, our own Catherine Herridge. Catherine? CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CHIEF INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: Sean, there's 235-page transcript shows the FBI put four Americans connected to candidate Trump under investigation at the height of the presidential campaign. Ten months into that investigation with intelligence from a surveillance warrant, two senior FBI officials, former lawyer Lisa Page and now director James Comey testified collusion was unproven when special counsel Robert Mueller was appointed in May 2017. Comey said of the FBI Russian investigations, quote, "we open them in late July, didn't know whether we had anything. In fact, when I was fired as director, I still didn't know whether there was anything to it." Republicans castigated Comey for failing to answer their questions 245 times, because he claimed not to know or could not remember key details including the surveillance warrant application for Trump campaign aide Carter Page. It says verified application, which means that the information is vetted. But Comey testified that the FBI was still working to substantiate the DNC Clinton campaign funded dossier before and after the application. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. PETER KING, (R) NEW YORK: Ro me it's hard to believe that Jim Comey would've forgotten all of those different details. I mean, I am on the intelligence committee, Jim Comey testified before us a number of times, I never recall him not being able to answer a question. (END VIDEO CLIP) HERRIDGE: Committee Democrats said the hearing was designed to damage the special counsel, not search for answers. Comey is scheduled to come back a week and will likely face questions about leaking memos, documenting his conversations with the president, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Catherine Herridge from Washington, thank you. Joining us with reaction author of the bestseller "Trumps America" The Truth About Our Nation's Great Comeback," Fox News contributor and former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich is with us. So, he's not answering any questions, he literally said something that should be remarkable to everybody. That what the Nunes and Grassley-Graham memo said, the bulk of information for the FISA application to spy on a Trump campaign associate, they never told the judges, Hillary paid for it. So, it may be political nature asterisk. They never verified it. And then if you, you know, listen to everything else that he says, how do you get a FISA warrant by committing a fraud like that on the court? NEWT GINGRICH, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, by the way, without any consequence. You know, if Comey had been a witness being interviewed by Mueller and he had 245 I can't remembers, I suspect they would keep him in there for 1,000 hours until he finally remembered. This is nonsense. Any person with a reasonable sense of judgment knows that they were breaking the law for the purpose of trying to defeat Donald Trump and then when the Trump won anyway, they went on breaking the law including illegally leaking things and this is not -- as far as a historian, it's hard to explain how unique it is to have the head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation this deeply engaged, this dishonest, this patently fraudulent. I mean, nobody believes that he didn't know 245 times. And I think that it is a really sad commentary on how sick the system has gotten. HANNITY: The Russians were invited to interfere in our election with what we now know to be fake information that Hillary and the DNC she was running paid for the dossier that even the dossiers author doesn't recognize as true. Maybe when pushed under oath, and then Comey admits that the dossier is unverified. They literally did these four times. GINGRICH: Right. HANNITY: They signed their name to this. And nobody had bothered to look to find out that it was nonsense. And when you look at when this Russian investigation and Trump begins in July of 2016 by May, both Lisa Page and James Comey said there was still no evidence. Then they appointed Mueller I guess to find it because they couldn't find it. GINGRICH: Let's be very clear here. If we had any sense of equal justice, everything that Comey has done what in fact from the standpoint of Mueller would have Comey right now lined up for a whole series of felony charges. These things, you're right. He is signing documents which is illegal to sign knowing that they are false. And now he is telling us, he didn't know the things that he said in the document. Well, in any reasonable system, Comey would now be guilty, I think by his own admission of a series of felonies including what they are going to ask about next week, which is having leaked things which is illegal. But it tells you what a one-sided political witch hunt Mueller is engaged in. That all of these things go on and somehow it never quite becomes important, but going after General Flynn after his 35 years of risking his life for America, that's OK. Even though nothing Flynn he's been accused of is comparable to what Comey now has admitted. HANNITY: What Comey has admitted, what Clinton has done, the Russian dossier, the Uranium One deal. I mean, I begin to worry here. And then you see immediate and total meltdown freak-out mode, screaming every second, minutes, and hour of the day impeachment. Because they could not get what they wanted out of Russia, now they are actually suggesting it's a campaign finance violation and they want to believe Michael Cohen's new story about the deal that he put together that he said the president didn't know about, and he paid it out of his own money. GINGRICH: Right. HANNITY: But now they will take the second version and go with that as gospel truth. GINGRICH: Well, as I said on your radio show today, and my newsletter on Wednesday will be all about this. I believe we should challenge Mueller to release all 70 hours, 70 hours of his interviews with Cohen. We have to find out how often did they blackmail him? How often did they threaten him? How many different stories did you tell? Why did they only believe the one that suits their purpose? Because my guess is that you will find 70 hours that he told five or six or seven different stories. HANNITY: All right, Mr. Speaker, thank you. It's going to be interesting. GINGRICH: Good to be here. HANNITY: It's going to be a hell of a year coming up. I'll tell you that. And it will mostly be fun and they will overreach it as I said earlier. All right. Coming up, you won't believe what one professor is accusing God of being. It will discuss to you, but it's something that we better deal with now. HANNITY: All right. Here we go again, you cannot make this stuff up, a psychology professor at Minnesota State University at Mankato accused God of being a predator for impregnating the Virgin Mary, quote, "without her consent." The associate professor Eric Sprankle made the argument on Twitter. We did reach out to the university for comment, they told us, quote, "Minnesota State University of Makato denounces all messages that demean religious beliefs of any kind, however, as a public institution of higher education, we respect the rights and privileges associated with the U.S. Constitution including, in this case, the First Amendment, right and freedom of speech and religion. Dr. Sprankle tweeted from a special account though we find this message ridiculous, outrageous and offensive, he has every legal right to voice his opinion." Also, tonight, an update on a story we told you about last week. Remember the self-proclaimed grinch principal in Elkhorn, Nebraska banning candy canes because they were shaped like a letter J for Jesus, well, he's been put on leave. Joining us now, former governor and Fox News contributor, Mike Huckabee, and Catalina magazine publisher Cathy Areu is back with us. Cathy, it's very interesting that you get reactions depending on somebody's individual faith. There are some times that if anybody says anything negative about some religion that's politically incorrect. But it seems that one group who is acceptable to bash their deeply held religious beliefs, it seems to be on a more regular basis Christian and Christians. Why? Why is that? CATHY AREU, PUBLISHER, CATALINA MAGAZINE: Perhaps they are the most popular religion, maybe it is because more people know more about Christmas than they do about Kwanzaa than they do about Hanukkah. So, it's easier to pick on the religion that most people know about, the holiday that most people know about. HANNITY: And what is your reaction to what this person said about the Virgin Mary and sexual assault by God. AREU: It was so extreme, but take anything out of context, the story itself if you are just to explain the story. About this, virgin and spirit and you know, what the story is, then you would think, well, that's wild, but then if you put it back into its context it's from the bible, then it's religion and it makes perfect sense. But when you take something out of context like that, if you pull Jesus out of context, you can make anything up. People love to do that. HANNITY: All right. AREU: They love to say if Jesus were alive now, what would he do? Where would you shop? What would he eat? So, these guys was just really extreme. The professor went way out there. HANNITY: Governor, I'm not a part of a group that says fire him. I guess people in school have a right to sign up for somebody's class or not sign up for somebody's class. It's up to them. But we are seeing a lot of this. You know, we have a nativity scene and the baby Jesus is in bars. Candy canes are banned because J equals Jesus. I never really saw a candy cane as a J before, but apparently that happens. And then you have a first grader who is being told that Santa doesn't exist and reindeer don't exist, contradicting the values of parents. This happens every year, why? MIKE HUCKABEE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: You know, Sean, I think first of all that professor probably got run over by a church bus when he was a little kid and he's never gotten over it. I mean, I cannot imagine how somebody can come to the conclusion even having a cursory reading of the gospel story. But the one thing that I will complement him for, it appears that he does believe in the virgin birth of Jesus Christ, so that's a plus. He just doesn't believe that it happened as the scripture teaches it. Now this principle in Nebraska, that's one for the books. That shepherd's staff candy cane might remind somebody of Jesus. Well, I have news for her, and I know this going to shock her, but Christmas is all about the worship of Christ, Christ mass, Christ mass that's what it's about. So, I hope she doesn't get any presents, may be a lump of coal in her stocking. Because anything else and it would be unfair to her and it might insult her sensitivities. We are living in an absurd age. I grew up in a time where not everybody believed in Jesus, but we accepted that it was a part of our culture. You didn't have to embrace the spiritual and religious aspects of it to appreciate that it was Christianity that built most of the hospitals, the great colleges and universities, including every single one of the Ivy League schools. Not that they have any semblance of connection to their history. But Sean, it is like the society has lost its collective mind. HANNITY: Well, America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, period. All right. When we come back at, Rush reveals what's really behind the Democrats impeachment talk. We'll have that video straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. So, amidst all the liberal hysteria and baseless impeachment talk, Rush Limbaugh explain the big picture. What's really going on? Just take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: The whole point of all of this has been to just flood the media each and every day with all of this negative news about Trump be it stealing the election, being immoral reprobate, has been designed to get you to have doubts about Trump. It's specifically designed to make you afraid to publicly proclaim your support for Trump. It is about you beginning to be afraid to support Trump because of the reaction you are going to get from people who are being treated to this salacious stuff. Because they can't get to where they want to go if Trump's approval numbers hang in the mid-40s or higher. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Rush is right. That's what they want. It's going to be death by 1,000 cuts. Hopefully worse-case scenario for them as he's unelectable in 2020. I think you the American people will get to decide that, not them. All right. That's all the time we have for tonight. Let not your heart be troubled. Remember the radio show three to six each afternoon. Hannity.com has all the information you need. And Laura is next. Have a great night. We'll see you tomorrow. Load-Date: December 11, 2018 End of Document Comey's Closed-Door Testimony in Congress Claiming He Does Not Know or Remember Key Details in Russia Case; Rep. Nadler Vows to End Investigations Except the Mueller's Probe; Democrats Pushing for Trump's Impeachment and Jail Time; Kyler Murray Apologizes over Old Tweets Reported by USA Today Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST December 10, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7986 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Byron York, Michelle Malkin Guests: John Solomon, Andy McCarthy, Mike Mukasey, Brian Watkins Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Let not your heart be troubled. Remember the radio show, 3:00 to 6:00 each afternoon. Hannity.com has all the information you need, and Laura is next. Have a great night. We'll see you tomorrow. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hey everybody, I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from New York City tonight. The left ambushes yet another public figure over social media sins from year's past. This time a "USA Today" writer uncovers tweets by newly chosen Heisman winner Kyler Murray written when he was 14 years old. Now, what public good does this serve and where does this all end? Plus, an alarming report about police recruits plummeting in two-thirds of the departments across the country. Could the constant derision of our law enforcement end up leading to a public safety crisis? We're going to explain. And why do advocacy groups seem to care more about illegal immigrants seeking shelter rather than focusing on American vets or our mentally ill who are living on the streets. An INGRAHAM ANGLE examination of that later in the show. But First, Comey's convenient memory loss and the search for answers. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Now, it may be time to send over some, I don't know, Prevagen over to the former FBI director Jim Comey. He seem to experience some severe amnesia during his close door testimony before the House Judiciary and Oversight Committees on Friday. They were exploring the factual predicate of the entire Trump-Russia probe like who knew what and when. But Jim Comey just could not recall. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) JIM COMEY, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR: I don't know for sure. I don't know the answer to that. I don't know for sure. I don't know the answer to that. I don't know the answer to that. I don't recall. I am not familiar with that article. I don't remember it. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: So we don't have the video. So we have to go through all the best dubs there. He is such a smart guy. Don't smart people have a pretty good memory? According to Fox's analysis of the transcript, during his 5.5 hours of testimony, Comey said, "I don't remember" 73 times. He responded "I don't know" 161 times, and "I don't recall" 8 times. Well, here's why all this matters. Republicans are still struggling to find the answers about the origins of this Russian collusion probe and what is happening with the biased investigators who advanced it as an insurance policy should Donald Trump win the election back of course in 2016. Well, when asked if he could recall who wrote this initiation document for the Russia probe in July of 2016, Comey had no recollection. He also claimed to have no knowledge of the involvement of Peter Strzok. He's a lead FBI investigator who led the Clinton e-mail probe, whose text to girlfriend Lisa Page included gems like this. "Trump's abysmal, hoping people will just dump him." Comey also could not remember why the FBI granted immunity to Brian Pagliano. He is a State Department employee who set up Hillary Clinton's private e-mail server. Well, Comey's got more blind spots than Christine Blasey Ford. Seemingly, he couldn't remember anything about the British spy Christopher Steele passing his dossier along to Justice Department official Bruce Ohr. Well, of course, it was Ohr who forwarded it to the FBI sparking the surveillance of Trump campaign figures. Remember carter page? But the few details that Comey had clarity on raise important questions. He told Congress that the details of the Steele dossier were unverified when they were used by the FBI to secure surveillance warrants of Trump campaign advisor, Carter Page. Now remember, that's what started this entire Russia-Trump probe. Comey also maintained that it was not necessary for the FBI to validate the sources of the dossier. With questions outstanding, Comey will be further grilled by Congress next year. As the clock is running out on the Republicans efforts to get answers, Democrat Jerry Nadler, who will soon take over the House Judiciary gavel, has already announced his first order of business, to shutdown all investigations of possible corruption at the FBI and Department of Justice. Shutdown their handling of the Hillary e-mail probe and all inquiry into the political motivations behind the Trump- Russia investigation. So once Nadler takes the reins, it's all over. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you become chairman are you officially going to end this investigation? REP. JERRY NADLER (D), NADLER: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why? NADLER: Because it's a waste of time to start with. The entire purpose of this investigation is to cast aspersion and the real investigation (inaudible). There is no evidence whatsoever of bias in the FBI or any of the other nonsense they are talking about. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, this other nonsense speaks directly to the credibility of the Mueller probe and calls it into question. Isn't Nadler in the least bit curious about the origins of the Steele dossier and possibly that American citizens were erroneously surveilled to serve a purely political end? And what role did memory challenged Comey play in all of this? The Department of Justice inspector general report did question Comey's judgments about the Clinton e-mail investigation as well as the Russia probe and they are still investigating by the way that Comey leaking of his own memo to the file after his conversation with the president. Remember when he sent it over to his friend at the "New York Times?" That investigation is on-going. But Nadler and company want to bury all those concerns and rush right into the end game. There is only one investigation Nadler means to keep alive and that's Mueller's. The incoming chairman already believes the southern district of New York's contention that the president instructed his lawyer to pay settlement to two women during the campaign. Well, that that's a felony directing a felony, Bingo. That's ground for impeachment. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAKE TAPPER, CNN HOST: If it's proven, are those impeachable offenses? NADLER: Well, they would be impeachable offenses whether they are important enough to justify an impeachment is a different question. But certainly they'd be impeachable offenses because even though they were committed before the president became president, they were committed in the service of fraudulently obtaining the office. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Translation, good choice deep state. In the end, we may end up where this Russia probe began. Partisans misusing the tools of justice in a brazen attempt to drive a president from office. No matter what Nadler says, no matter how he tries to rush the public along to impeachment, questions linger, disturbing questions linger about the political nature of this entire collusion probe. And we will get answers, whether James Comey recalls them or not. And that;s THE ANGLE. Joining me now with reaction is John Solomon, opinion contributor for "The Hill," Byron York, the "Washington Examiner's" chief political correspondent and Andy McCarthy, former U.S. attorney, both are Fox News contributor and also, talk about an all-star panel, former attorney general Mike Mukasey. General Muklasey, you were chomping at the bit over there. I mean, Comey, amazing amnesia that he had. Are we screwed for years? He is smart as a whip. He is focused. He is a detail-oriented individual. Memos to the file, he wrote them regularly. How do you forget so much? MIKE MUKASEY, FORMER ATTORNEY-GENERAL: It's extraordinary transcript. It was also extraordinary because at one point he's asked about the statement by the -- well, he says the president told him about laying off Flynn. And so that was very disturbing and he started an investigation based on that statement. And then he is asked about President Obama saying on national television that Hillary Clinton should not be charged because she did not intend to do anything wrong. So, that was on national television. So, somehow it doesn't matter. That was the clear import of his response and it's mind blowing. It really is. Well, he also wasn't asked about and what he should have been asked about I think is the fact that President Obama's e-mails were found on Hillary Clinton's illegal server so that if he charged her, he would be charging the president as well and whether that paid any role in his calculations. I would be interested to know his answer to that. He will be back next week. INGRAHAM: John, it's important what the former FBI director did remember, however. Tell us about it. JOHN SOLOMON, OPINION CONTIBUTOR, THE HILL: I think the most important recollection he could -- he still have after his book was that the Steele document, Steele dossier which is the genesis of the majority of the support in the FISA warrants was not corroborated, was not verified when it was submitted as evidence. The FISA rules are clear. You don't submit unverified evidence to the judges. So his admission of that validates what several congressional committees have been looking at for several month including Devein Nunes and Chuck Grassley and people like Mark Meadows. It's an extraordinary admission and I think the IG now has a pretty important statement to put in his report next year when he looks at the FISA abuses. INGRAHAM: Andy, I want to go to you because Comey has spoken out since his testimony. He gave a big Q&A at the 92nd Street Y last night here in New York and he was asked about the question of impeachment. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) COMEY: I can't see what the end of the Mueller effort looks like. I don't know what form it will take. I don't know what they will conclude. And so I can't say in that respect. I can tell you that all of us should use every breath we have to make sure that the lying stops on January 20th, 2021. In a way, I hope Donald Trump is not removed from office by impeachment because it lets the country off the hook. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Andy. ANDY MCCARTHY, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: Well, you know, look. I think he's become very partisan. I am sorry to see that. You know, I don't actually mind partisanship. I mind it when people are pretending to be objective or at least presenting themselves as objective and just calling it down the middle. You know, there is a lot of talk about the necessity of the American people holding Trump to account and it seems to me that the FBI had a golden opportunity to hold Mrs. Clinton to account. They decided not to do that. And I also think, Laura, looking at this, I don't see how any objective person looking at this even allowing that Mrs. Clinton has the constitutional presumption of innocence just like everybody else does. I don't know how anyone could look at the two sides of this equation and say that the quality of justice was the same. So, if we're going to talk about accountability, I think we should talk about accountability. INGRAHAM: Yes, Byron, the scales of justice tipping one way. Hillary's top aides get immunity. We don't know why they were granted immunity. If anyone on this panel knows, I don't think we have been fully told why Cheryl Mills or Huma Abedin were given immunity, and why this other guy was let off the hook, Pagliano, that apparently, you know, Comey had no memory of. He is the guy who set up the e-mail server. Why is he given immunity? Byron, so we're going to get into the issue with the campaign contributions in a moment, but on this issue, because Nadler shutting it down, I think that hurts them. I think that hurts them in their effort to what they think is exposing Trump because it looks so patently one sided. BYRON YORK, WASHINGTON EXAMINER: It did. And so many of the things we learned that John was talking about the dossier earlier, so many of these things we learned including who paid for the dossier, the origins of the dossier, whether the dossier was ever verified. All of those things we learned were the result of the House of Representatives specifically Hous Intelligence Committee with Devin Nunes and the Senate Judiciary Committee with Charles Grassley, asking and pressuring the Justice Department to tell them these things. And by the way, the Justice Department stone-walled and slow- walked that it could. And one more thing about that dossier about using it on a FISA warrant on. Also remember, that on January 6th of 2017, when Donald Trump was still the president-elect, Jim Comey and James Clapper and John Brennan, the top intelligence chiefs traveled to New York and Comey briefed the president- elect on the allegation that he had been in a hotel room in Moscow with prostitutes. Of course they haven't been verified but he actually -- this was the first thing they told the president. So, they relied on the dossier to an extraordinary amount. INGRAHAM: Judge, every time I go back and review what's happened just over the last couple of years from Hillary today, it really is stunning. That dossier, unverified, being used as the chief component in this FISA application, I mean, you are a federal district court judge. If you found out that the crux of an application to you for something this important to surveil an American citizen was not verified and also funded by the political opponent, direct political opponent of the subject of the investigation, overall subject, that's amazing. MUKASEY: I would be up the wall about it and I think their claim that somehow they told the judge by slipping a clever little foot note -- INGRAHAM: Footnote in. MUKASEY: -- about the origin of it, I don't think that really survives scrutiny. Also, it seems to me pretty unusual that although Jim Comey described that dossier as unverified, the submission that he made and signed is marked a verified submission to the FISA court. A verified, unverified submission? What's that about? INGRAHAM: You have the entire thing dogeared. By the way, judge and I were laughing before the show started, like this is like going back to the old legal days, judge, on the federal district court. In New York, he has it all dogeared, McCarthy. It's like, this is taking us all back. But just -- you read it. Now, what really jumped out at you the most from Comey on Friday? MUKASEY: A couple of things. First of all, his constant inability to define the questions and to understand the questions when the Republicans were asking them and his expansive orations when the Democrats asked him questions or his succinct, yes, no, I do, I don't answers to their rhetorical questions. Those were just fine. But when the Republicans were asking questions, he was backing and filling and hemming and hawing (ph). I was really quite noticeable. And I was also struck as I said before, by that exchange about him claiming that the president was telling him to layoff Flynn and that he had to start an investigation of that. But when Barack Obama went on national television and said he didn't think Hillary Clinton had done anything wrong or intended to hurt the country, which by the way was not the standard under the statute, but it was a broad hint that she shouldn't be charged. He was, yes, he was moderately upset about that but didn't see any reason. INGRAHAM: That wasn't said to influence an ongoing, perhaps, ongoing or forthcoming investigation. Andy McCarthy, I want to go to you. The big take away from the sentencing documents from the southern district was that language about directing the payments, correct? So, directing payments to these two women, $150,000 and $130,000 -- Michael Cohen used the LLC, ends up paying the American Media, Inc. National Enquirer, and then paying Stormy Daniels directly. That has led all of the other cables to conclude, aha, we finally got the road runner, Trump. They got roadrunner and he is guilty of a felony and he's on the fast track to impeachment. It is amazing that without any reference to the president or the underlying facts, the sweeping conclusions are made by people who frankly should know better on national television. MCCARTHY: Yes. Well, I think they think, Laura, or they want you to think that because Cohen went into court and pled guilty to these two counts of campaign finance fraud, that that settles the matter and that means that that's done. That's settled. We don't have to talk about that anymore. In fact, it's very questionable whether these two transactions are campaign finance violations. Even if we assume that they are, that has often, even in much more serious cases than this been handled as an administrative matter. But I think there is very significant question about whether these kinds of payments are obligations or in fact in-kind campaign contributions. And the other thing I'd say, Laura, that people ought to think about is there is a sense here where they get Trump coming or going, right? So they say that these were campaign expenditures and he should have disclosed them. If they're campaign expenditures, he could have settled them with campaign funds, but I am wondering what the Democrats would have said if Trump had taken campaign money and done these payments. I assume what they would have said was that he was diverting campaign funds to personal use. INGRAHAM: Oh yes. But it would have been legal though. There was a report in the FCC -- MCCARTHY: --so, it just seems to me that, you know -- INGRAHAM: Yes, it would have been legal though. I don't think it would have been any problem under the FEC rules on that. If it was disclosed and there were a nuisance, so you considered nuisance suite or -- that's what he said today by the way when he was -- was it today? Well, basically, this is a private matter. This is not a done essentially implication being to influence the election. I want to play something for you Byron, this was from Rand Paul -- I am so glad he said this. The underlying constitutionality of this campaign finance regulations. I couldn't agree with him more. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. RAND PAUL (R), KENTUCKY: I personally think that if someone makes an error in filing paper work or in not categorizing a campaign contribution correctly, it should not be jail time. It ought to be a foul line. And so it's just like a lot of other things that we've done in Washington, with over-criminalized campaign finance. INGRAHAM: A good friend of mine today, Byron, were saying why are conservatives accepting these as constitutional matters? They are not constitutional matters. I can make a good case on that but maybe we'll see that later on from the Trump folks. YORK: Well, a lot of conservatives have argued -- Mitch McConnell did a big lawsuit about it -- that these limits on political donations are limits on free speech and violate our first amendment rights. They lost on that. So these limits are there. We saw a really big shift, a sudden shift in the discussion about Trump in the last few days, which is for two years it was Russia, Russia, Russia. And now it is campaign finance violations. And what is clear is Democrats believe they already have enough to impeach the president because they can say now, truthfully, federal prosecutors in New York implicated the president in two felonies. They've said it over and over you're going to hear it millions of times in the future. That's what these prosecutors have done in New York including this part in the Michael Cohen sentencing memo. INGRAHAM: Yes. Judge, do you think it's that simple? MUKASEY: I don't really because although Cohen's admissions are binding on him, it certainly not binding on but they are not binding on the president. The statute I believe says that the purpose of the contribution has to be to influence the election. Not a purpose, the purpose. So that for example, if he was interested in saving his reputation, saving his marriage, in addition to whatever influence it might have on the campaign, that's the end of it. John Edwards beat the same charge back in 2012 based on the same kind of reasoning. And I don't see that it's really that much of a danger to the president. Yes, he might be charged, but I don't see it as a viable case. INGRAHAM: Fantastic panel guys. Thank you so much. And coming up, the left is collecting another social media pelt. Well, "USA Today" smearing the Heisman winner Kyler Murray just hours after he won the big award. His sin? Insensitive tweets he sent when he was an adolescent. Michelle Malkin, Glenn Greenwald, react next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KYLER MURRAY, QUARTERBACK, OKLAHOMA SOONERS: This is crazy. Man, this is an honor, something that, you know, I will never forget and something I will always cherish for the rest of my life. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray accepting the coveted Heisman trophy over the weekend. And within hours of that moment, "USA Today" writer, Scott Gleeson, rained on that career changing moment writing, "Heisman trophy winner Kyler Murray had a Saturday to remember. But the Oklahoma quarterback's memorable night also helped resurface social media's memory of several homophobic tweets more than six years old. Well, Murray immediately apologized saying the old tweets don't reflect who he is or what he believes. The old tweet and that shaming comes just days after actor and comedian Kevin Hart was forced to step down as the Oscar's host after tweeting -- his past tweeting came back to haunt him. So, is any of this fair? Here now we have conservative commentator Michelle Malkin and Brian Watkins, a civil rights and criminal defense attorney. Michelle, let's start with you. My word, I am glad there was no Twitter or YouTube or anything when I was a kid or when I was in college because, you know, we all do stupid things in college and I'm proud. I do stupid things. But this just seems now, like it's -- he is not a political kid. First of all, he is a student and a football player. And he can't even have his moment working as hard as he did his whole life. MICHELLE MALKIN, CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR: Yes, that's right. And this so- called reporter, Scott Gleeson for "USA Today" was not practicing journalism. He was lying in wait for the moment to "resurface" these tweets he clearly he had been sitting on and waiting to relish the moment to spring them on this young man at the height of his achievement and hi moment of, you know, really what should have been a satisfaction and pride for himself and his family. It's not journalism. Its vigilantism and its social justice warrior use of social media run amuck. I think that every journalist at "USA Today" should hang their heads in shame that this man, Scott Gleeson, is allowed to operate as a so-called reporter at that publication. And it really does call into question what exactly is news? There is nothing news worthy and the fact that a young man, when he was a teenager, 14 or 15 years-old, said stupid things. And I think you have it exactly right, Laura, which is who among us hasn't done stupid things when we were teenagers? I think maybe there's an object lesson here for every agent for every promising sports, young person or athlete -- INGRAHAM: Well, don't go on social media. MALKIN: -- to stay off social media. INGRAHAM: Yes. Don't go on social media at all. I think more and more people are going to come along to that understanding that social media, just too precarious, too dangerous. Brian, here's what he said last night after this surfaced. He said, "I apologize for the tweets that have come to light tonight when I was 14 or 15. I used a poor choice of word that doesn't reflect who I am or what I believe. I did not intend to single out any individual group." And I think a lot of people are watching this today and saying does this same standard apply to people like Sarah Silverman or Amy Schumer or Chelsea Handler. We have a couple of other tweets we will put up on screen. This is what -- we'll put up Chelsea Handler first. She said, "This is what a -- I'm not going to say the word -- bird likes like when he flexes." That's hers. And then this is Sarah Silverman, "I don't believe this in a hateful was, but the new bachelorette's a -- f word -- I'm not going to say it." That was in 2010. Now, Amy Schumer, "Every skyfall -- f word - I'm about to get knee deep in Helen Hunt #thesessions. What are we doing to ourselves here Brian? I mean, they were adults when they said that stuff and they are comedians, so they can get away with it? BRIAN WATKINS, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Yes, comedians can get away with things that the average person can't, but more importantly, I mean, I think what the reporter of "USA Today" did was despicable. That's not reporting. He's not a journalist. That's just tabloid, you know, smear. I don't know why you want to smear a young college kid in his, you know, moment of glory like that. But on the other side of that is you got to stay off the internet and the twitters and the social media. That stuff is there. It doesn't forget. INGRAHAM: But Brian, this is what I'm saying, liberals are becoming the anti-fun group or party. I mean, no one can have any -- now one can make a mistake. No one can say something in thumbprint (ph) and you've said, that comedians can get away with it. Well, Kevin Hart can't get away with it. Kevin (inaudible) himself a few days ago after he was selected to host the Oscar's. And I've had the chance to meet him once. He probably doesn't remember me. He's a great guy, great person. And I'm not going to apologize. (Inaudible) forced -- you must -- you must bow down at the altar of political correctness, and I just think guys it's a kill-joy moment in the country. No one can breathe without fear of offending someone else. And being kind and having manners, we all should have better manners. I agree with that. But when you -- you can't be 14 or 15? I just think, Michelle, I think it's again, I think the left is becoming precariously close to the line of irrelevant in the culture when this is the kind of stuff they focus on. MALKIN: Well, yes. WATKINS: It's can't say that it's the left. INGRAHAM: Yes, it's the left. WATKINS: It's not. INGRAHAM: Yes, it is the left. MALKIN: Of course it is. WATKINS: No, it's not. It's society. INGRAHAM: Society? No. MALKIN: No, no, no. WATKINS: Yes. Society cares -- (CROSSTALK) MALKIN: I'm glad -- WATKINS: When people put things up on the Internet, it's society that cares about it. If you put something up on the Internet and society didn't care what you put on the Internet, it wouldn't be an issue. So the only thing that makes it an issue is society. MALKIN: They went after this young man because he was a successful athlete, and that journalist who was a social justice warrior wanted to bring him down because he fought the wrong things when he was a teenager. INGRAHAM: It's a lesson. MALKIN: That's right, it's a -- INGRAHAM: This is a lesson going forward. It's a warning shot across the bow. Any of you people out there, any of you guys coming up through the ranks, you better watch out, because we are watching you. It's like Big Brother but it's not coming from the government. All right, guys, thanks so much. Glenn Greenwald is with us. So happy he's here. I've never gotten to meet him in person, but of course he's from "The Intercept," a co-founder of "The Intercept" and he's done so much great work over the years. Glenn, I saw a tweet of yours today. I had no idea you were in New York, so it's great to see you. This is kind of nuts. I am just so glad I didn't grow up in the era of all this stuff. And if it makes me a fuddy-duddy to say that, I'm fine with that. GLENN GREENWALD, CO-FOUNDER, "THE INTERCEPT": That was my reaction was the thing for which I'm most grateful is there was no Internet when I was an adolescent. And I'm somebody who actually worked for several years to protect the Internet, to defend privacy on the Internet because it's such a critical innovation. So when I hear things like stay off of social media, stay off Twitter, as the father of two children, ten and eight, that really disturbs me. The Internet is a really important means of communication. But it is true that if we signal to people that your every word will be forever scrutinized for propriety, even in adolescence, the purpose of which is rebel and test limits, we're either going to destroy the Internet or breed a really conformist society where everyone is petrified of ever sounding an off-key note. And both of those are equally terrible. INGRAHAM: I mentioned the issue of Kevin Hart who was going to host the Oscars. This is what "Saturday Night Live's" Michael Che said defending Kevin Hart. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL CHE, COMEDIAN: That was short. (LAUGHTER) CHE: Kevin Hart had to step down as host of the upcoming Academy Awards because of homophobic tweets from 2011. Didn't the academy nominate Mel Gibson for an award just last year? Also, if Kevin Hart isn't clean enough to host the Oscars, then no black comic is. The only black comic I know that is cleaner than Kevin Hart is booked for the next three to ten years. (LAUGHTER) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was pretty funny. I get the sense people on the left are saying we better watch out because you start finding the Handlers, Silverman, Schumer tweet, I don't think they should never work again because they sent those tweets out. Everyone should kind of take a breath and everyone should be able to poke fun at everybody else. No group should be off-limits, frankly, except kids. GREENWALD: And I think the question is, do we want to judge everybody by the worst possible moments that we can find about them and then hold trial by the Internet? That's one of the things that's really toxic as well. INGRAHAM: I've been dying to talk to you about what you think now that Comey testifies on Capitol Hill. You probably saw some of that. What were your thoughts? GREENWALD: I think if you go back to 2016 and look at the reason why there was a special counsel in the first place, the argument was that we suspect the Trump campaign might have conspired or aided and abetted in the hacking, which was the crime. And we are so far removed from that where even Jim Comey said during his tenure he was aware of no evidence proving any of that. We're now celebrating Stormy Daniels payments and the possibility that Jared Kushner once met somebody who was a Russian national. We're so far afield from what the original investigation was that people barely remember why it exists any longer. INGRAHAM: And what's interesting is they keep saying all these Russian contacts. And if someone calls Trump Tower who says they are a trusted source close to the Kremlin and he talked to Michael Cohen for five minutes, and Michael Cohen is like we're not following up on this. That's a contact. That's part of the narrative. That didn't go anywhere. They rebuffed anything. GREENWALD: Russia is like a big and important country. And if you are doing politics or you're doing business, you're doing real estate, you're going to end up talking to Russians. And I don't think we want to create a climate where having communications with Russians, people of Russian national origin or Russian citizenship, is a crime, but that is essentially the climate that has been created. People in Washington are petrified to talk to Russians. INGRAHAM: Maybe we should go over to the Russian Tearoom. Want to go? (LAUGHTER) GREENWALD: I think that would be very incriminating, especially if we did it together. INGRAHAM: Exactly. Glenn Greenwald, thanks so much. And could years of anti-cop rhetoric be responsible for starving American police departments for new recruits? That's scary. A new debate over that, next. TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Live from America's News Headquarters, I'm Trace Gallagher. Thousands of people are still without power after a deadly storm hit parts of the south. Officials in North Carolina where nearly two feet of snow fell blame at least three deaths on the storm. Duke Energy says some 100,000 customers lost power in North Carolina. Power outages were also reported in Virginia, Georgia, Tennessee, and parts of Alabama. The storm also causing major flight delays and closed down several schools. U.S. authorities arresting 32 people during a demonstration at the border separating San Diego from Tijuana, Mexico, 31 for trespassing, and another person for assaulting an agent. About 300 people participated in the rally which was organized in support of the caravan of Central American asylum seekers who say they're fleeing violence in their home countries. When news breaks out, we'll break in. I'm Trace Gallagher. Now back to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CROWD: Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon! Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon! Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon! UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do we want? CROWD: Dead Cops! UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When do we want them? CROWD: Now! UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do we want? CROWD: Dead Cops! UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When do we want them? CROWD: Now! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Those chants have become common refrains across the country in the wake of police involved shootings. A new study shows that they may have a chilling effect on new police recruiting classes. The Police Executive Research Forum found that applications have fallen at two-thirds of the departments across the country, adding this alarming realization, "Although the U.S. population has risen from 267 million in 1997 to 323 million in 2016, the number of full-time sworn officers per 1,000 U.S. residents has dropped from 2.42 in 1997 to 2.17 per 1,000 residents in 2016." Joining me now is Heather Mac Donald, the Thomas W. Smith fellow at the Manhattan Institute and author of the book "The War on Cops," along with FOX News political commentator and co-host of "THE FIVE," Juan Williams. Heather, you have written extensively wrote about the issue of the police and their relationship to local communities across the country. We can remind everybody about Trayvon Martin, what happened to Michael Brown, what happened of course in Baltimore to Freddie Gray. We had several police officers in Baltimore who were accused of the most horrific things, obviously facilitating the death of Freddie Gray and also with Darren Wilson in St Louis, Ferguson. They were all exonerated. Whatever happens to those police? HEATHER MAC DONALD, AUTHOR, "WAR ON COPS": What happens to the ones who are exonerated? They go on to face further disciplinary charges from their departments. But those are aberrations. Those do not represent the norm of policing in this country. In fact, most officers are out there trying to do their job. But what has happened because of these protests and the narrative is that officers are backing off of policing. A cop in Chicago told me he has never experienced so much hatred in his 19 years on the job. And so it has had a result on recruiting. INGRAHAM: And my point in raising that is they were called pretty every name in the book. Darren Wilson hadn't had a single disciplinary action I believe against him when the death of Michael Brown occurred, he discharged his weapons. It was supposed to be hands up, don't shoot, except that never was said. So my point is, police are accused, even when they're exonerated their life is pretty much destroyed. Who wants to sign up with that, Juan Williams? JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST, "THE FIVE": I think it's a tough job. I think heather has documented that very well in her books. But I think the big change to my mind is cellphone cameras and body cameras on police. And I think that has effectively said no longer can you rely on what used to be called the thin blue line or the blue wall of silence to somehow protect you when this happens. We just had a case in Birmingham, Alabama, outside Birmingham in Hoover, where a black man was trying to help people get off of a troubled situation at the mall after a fight, and he gets shot. And initially the police story is he was involved in the incident. Then the police said no, that wasn't true, and then they go silent. No one knows what happened. Why was this man shot? And similarly we've had other cases like this. I think a lot of people remember Philando Castile in Minnesota, where he is in a car. He says to the police officer I am legally allowed to carry a registered gun, and he still gets shot in his car in front of his girlfriend and his kid. INGRAHAM: Those are horrific examples. WILLIAMS: Right. INGRAHAM: And if this is racism in an individual that compels him or her to shoot another individual just willy-nilly because of the color of their skin, the person should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of law, never to be seen again. WILLIAMS: It's not only race. I think there are other issues here, Laura, but specifically I would point to mental illness. I think a lot of people who get shot by cops have mental issues. And if you have mental issues and a minority in a bad neighborhood, police of course are nervous. They're concerned about their own safety. INGRAHAM: Here's the problem, though. In 2014 and 2015, Heather, you know this study, it came out in August, Rutgers University looked at basically that year of police involved shootings. Black cops were just as likely to shoot a black individual as white police officers. There was virtually no difference in the study done by two Rutgers professors. Other examples of course, the 'Journal of Trauma and Acute Care Surgery," 1.04 million calls for police service, only 0.086 percent of those cases involved the discharge of a firearm. MAC DONALD: The Obama Justice Department found that in Philadelphia black officers were far more likely to shoot blacks who were not armed than white officers were out of what is called threat misperception. There is simply not a systemic problem of policing in this country. What we need to start talking about, Laura, is the reason that officers are in minority neighborhoods in greater numbers, because that's where people are being victimized at much higher rates. The black crime problem will only be solved when the family comes back together again. But until that happens, policing saves lives. And when police back off -- INGRAHAM: What if they feel like they are the targets, Heather, and Juan, I want you both -- they feel like they have the target on their black, because if they protect themselves acting in a split second, they've been trained, but if they hesitate, they could be killed. If their weapon discharges, which almost never happens, look at these statistics, they could be sued. And even with immunity they can be sued, their lives are destroyed. So is it a wonder we have these horrific recruitment statistics? MAC DONALD: No, of course not. And the discourse has to change. And it is changing. At least we do not have an echo-chamber for the Black Lives Matter movement in the White House now. And so I hope that eventually cops will go back to proactive policing. WILLIAMS: Boy, I wish we did. MAC DONALD: The narrative is very, very destructive. Again, if the media focused on every time a police officer shoots a white person, the public would think we have an epidemic of shootings of white people. It's this perception that we have an epidemic of black shootings is simply a media creation. WILLIAMS: So I would defer to you, Heather. I would say that if you are shooting white people, black people, Asian people, Latino, I don't like it. But police have the authority of state in terms of carrying the weapons. And when you see the kind of reaction, especially from poor black communities, that feel that the police don't show up in terms of serving them. Instead they show up and treat everyone as a suspect and people, especially young men feel intimidated and bullied, I think you understand we have a problem. MAC DONALD: That's not what I have heard. INGRAHAM: If we don't start recruiting police -- in New Orleans, the last time I checked they had 800 spots opened in New Orleans, just in the city of New Orleans. That was the last time I checked. That's six months ago. That's a real problem. And people aren't going to be able to be safe and protected in their community. WILLIAMS: Everybody wants to be safe. INGRAHAM: So when you dial 9-11 you want to get a police officer to show up. WILLIAMS: But you don't want to be shot. Already this year you have 937 people shot and killed by police in this country. And people are like, who, what is going on? INGRAHAM: We've got a lot of dangerous people in this country. MAC DONALD: There's 10 deadly weapon assaults on officers in this country in just two-thirds of the police jurisdictions for every one officer involved shooting. INGRAHAM: Guys, I've got to go. Guys, we're going to keep on this issue in the new year. We have to see progress in the way police are recruited and the rules of engagement. We have to see improvement. Coming up, why are some groups doing more to help illegal immigrants than American vets or even our mentally ill who wind up on the streets? Exposing a problematic strain of advocacy, next. INGRAHAM: Now to a story out of California that might just prompt Americans to ask, shouldn't we take care of our own citizens first? The "L.A. Times" regrettably notes shelter is increasingly scarce for migrants released in San Diego County by ICE. And similar religious groups in Arizona are likewise pleading for help for what they consider a crisis watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We have more people coming in this Friday. There's probably going to be about 100 people coming in. And then we're going to wait for ICE to let us know if there's going to be another bus or maybe two buses next week. We don't know yet. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The church stockpiles clothes and shoes, but there isn't enough to go around. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: My question tonight is, as heart-wrenching as these stories are, why aren't these advocates pushing for more shelters for homeless Americans like our vets and the mentally ill? Joining us now is Tammy Bruce, president of the Independent Women's Forum and FOX News contributor, and Jumaane Williams, Democratic New York City Councilmember and candidate for New York City Public Advocate. Jumaane, San Diego regional task force, they reported in June of this year that the number of local homeless veterans had increased by 24 percent just last year. Shouldn't we focus on little things a little closer to home here? JUMAANE WILLIAMS, NEW YORK CITY COUNCILMEMBER: It's interesting that you say that, particularly around housing. I have been dealing with housing my whole life. I know that the homeless crisis in New York City, and there even has nothing to do with undocumented immigrants. INGRAHAM: It's limited resources right? We have limited resources in the United States. WILLIAMS: I actually put a resolution into the city council to stop the administration from getting rid of a program that helps house homeless veterans. So it's interesting that you would say that as I am fighting for the administration to keep a program for the same people you are talking about it. INGRAHAM: I don't care who is fighting for it. My point is a simple point. WILLIAMS: But it's not binary. INGRAHAM: I'm trying to get you to follow what we're saying. We have a limited pool of resources, Tammy. My mother said, does money grow on trees? No, it doesn't grow on trees. We have a limited pool of resources, and a limited number of volunteers that at least don't get paid by the federal government to resettle refugees. It's an enormous problem we have. When you go on the streets two blocks from here in D.C., a couple blocks from the FOX Bureau, and people are out on the street and can't get in the homeless shelter. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, whether it's in the train stations, we know this, right, Grand Central, Penn Station, Union Station in Washington, across the country, tent cities in San Francisco and Los Angeles and San Diego. These are local communities also funded with of course local dollars. In San Diego it's a particular problem because veterans when they come home, a lot of course land in San Diego. We have over 1,300 homeless veterans in San Diego who are not swamped with people who are worried about if a new bus will come or if there's going to be enough clothes. They are sleeping just out in the open. So it comes down to two different things. It is about resources which are limited because there is no money tree, even though it's taxpayer money, it doesn't mean it never stops. But at the same time it's about a priority, that, yes, these stories are heartbreaking. But we do have to decide why is it that now with the rhetoric and the narrative that illegal aliens are taking a priority over Americans who put their lives on the line, signed up, served this country, went into the military -- WILLIAMS: That's just not true. BRUCE: -- managed to get home to defend this country and freedom, and yet they are the ones who we have abandoned to some degree. That's my concern. INGRAHAM: Jumaane, I would say if you took a, just for fun, if you did a national referendum, just the question of, i we had a pool of $200 million to spend per annum on homelessness, should that be directed toward Americans or should have be directed in decent part to illegal immigrants? It would be like 98 percent. WILLIAMS: You projecting a binary choice that is false. INGRAHAM: Life is filled with binary choices. You either go this way, the road not taken, Robert Frost. WILLIAMS: And so undocumented immigrants, I prefer to call them undocumented immigrants. INGRAHAM: Sure, documented Democrats. WILLIAMS: To rehumanize them. I aim to tell you now, if we had no undocumented immigrants, we would have a homeless crisis like you're speaking about. So we have to -- INGRAHAM: So you think we should bring in more homeless people in this scenario? WILLIAMS: No. Overhaul the immigration system, because we know that's what the biggest problem is. And we have enough resources to deal with all of this. Why are we spending -- INGRAHAM: Where are we getting the money? WILLIAMS: Why are we spending so much time -- INGRAHAM: Where is the money coming from? WILLIAMS: When the biggest crisis -- INGRAHAM: Liberals never want to answer, where is the money coming from? Are you opening up your home to illegal immigrants tonight? WILLIAMS: It has to do with all these other issues that we focus on. INGRAHAM: Limited pool of resources. Do you understand that. WILLIAMS: Understood. But right now the issue is not undocumented immigrants. BRUCE: And space. It's about where they're going to be, it's about limited space. WILLIAMS: Tell Trump to stop taking away the programs of housing the homeless veterans. Let's start there. BRUCE: It's priorities. WILLIAMS: You should prioritize that. I'm prioritizing it. INGRAHAM: I'll work with you on that. All right. Guys. BRUCE: It's priorities. WILLIAMS: I'm prioritizing homeless veterans. BRUCE: There is nothing shameful to have Americans be our priority, and especially for this country remains a place -- WILLIAMS: But it's shameful to pretend that the reason it is not happening is because of undocumented immigrants. That is just a false -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: All right, guys, we're out of time. We'll be right back with the Last Bite. Stay there. INGRAHAM: It's time for the Last Bite. By now you have the seen that miracle play yesterday by the Miami Dolphins winning against the Patriots in the last seven seconds of the game. It was unbelievable. A lot of the Pats fans, though, didn't take it too well, especially this nice gentleman. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How did that happen? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A freak play. A crazy play. How could it happen? How could it happen? Where the -- they have to get the other end of the goal line safe. Are you -- me? Look at this. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: We laughed so hard. You have to rally see the extended view of that. That's all of the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team, take it from here. Go Miami. Load-Date: December 11, 2018 End of Document It Has Been A Tough Week For President Trump, Ripped By The Media And With Another White House Shake-Up; New York Times Reveals Les Moonves' Cover-Up And More Sexual Misconduct; Kevin Hart Bowed Out From Hosting The Oscar's; Google Staffers Wanting To Bury Conservative News Sites. Fox News Network MEDIA BUZZ 11:00 AM EST December 9, 2018 Sunday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7906 words Byline: Howard Kurtz, Charlie Gasparino Guests: Anthony Scaramucci, Emily Jashinsky Body HOWARD KURTZ, FOX NEWS HOST: On Buzz Media this Sunday, saturation coverage as prosecutors accuse Paul Manafort of repeatedly lying, Michael Cohen of initially lying including about Russian contacts, and the press seizes on details tied to the president. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Prosecutors have for the first time accused the president of involvement in not one but two crimes. LAWRENCE O'DONNELL, HOST, MSNBC: Donald Trump will be, must be impeached because of the crimes prosecutors say he committed in the Michael Cohen case. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: To watch the reaction on the other networks tonight, you might as well have thought that Donald Trump just came out in a -- like a hammer and sickle T-shirt and said, look, I'm actually a Russian operative myself. SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Zero evidence in any of these documents, so Trump-Russian collusion zero. We have absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing by the president of the United States. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: President Trump is claiming vindication. How much of Robert Mueller's sentencing memos is really new? And do they warrant the dire headlines about implicating individual one Donald Trump? And John Kelly leaving as chief of staff as the latest White House shakeup is crucial as the press account suggests. Anthony Scaramucci, the former Trump White House aide, will be here. As George H.W. Bush is laid to rest on a tidal wave of positive media coverage, some pundits kept using this dedication to disparage Trump and there were some heated arguments. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MEGHAN MCCAIN, HOST, ABC: Can we focus on the president, please? I don't want to talk about Trump when we're in the moment of -- we're honoring a great president. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Why do the media have to make every story about Donald Trump? An outside investigation finds Les Moonves lied to CBS in covering of sexual misconduct. His $120 million severance could be toast. And the network still paying big bucks to an accuser of the legendary 60 Minutes boss Don Hewitt. Plus, Kevin Hart is out as Oscar's host after refusing to apologize for some long ago homophobic tweet, but he says he has changed. Is that enough? I'm Howard Kurtz and this is Media Buzz. It was, according to the media, a bombshell of epic proportions. Robert Mueller finally revealing some of his evidence and findings against Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort and clearly implicating the president. It was, according to Trump defenders, basically a dud. Hush money payments involving alleged affair but very little material on Russian collusion. And Donald Trump's reaction? Totally clears the president. Thank you! Earlier, there had been a day long media buildup until prosecutors finally filed their sentencing memo for Mike Flynn and you could see the sense of deflation when there were no new revelations and Robert Mueller said the ex- national security advisor shouldn't go to jail. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIMI ROCAH, LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR, MSNBC: Like everybody else, I was frustrated and sort of said, really, when I first looked at it because it's so redacted. JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN CHIEF LEGAL ANALYST: The frustrating part of this for those of us who are interested in the case is that the core of his cooperation is blocked out. INGRAHAM: I think this is a big zero. I think this Mueller thing and what they did to Flynn is disgusting. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Joining us now to analyze the coverage: Mollie Hemingway, senior editor at The Federalist and a Fox News contributor; Sara Fischer, media reporter for Axios; and Richard Fowler, radio talk show host and also a Fox News contributor. Mollie, few new details from the sentencing memo such as that Michael Cohen was contacted by a Russian national in 2015, who said he could offer political synergy at the government level and wanted to set up a Trump- Putin meeting which of course didn't (ph) happen. Do these and other details warrant the media's def con one (ph) coverage? MOLLIE HEMINGWAY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR, SENIOR EDITOR, THE FEDERALIST: Well, first of on that detail that was, I think, a wrestler who had reached out to Michael Cohen and Cohen didn't respond to that offer of help from a wrestler in Russia, so sometimes when these things are written, they are written in very dramatic style and if you dig into them, there isn't a lot of there there. And I think this is very important for media coverage. There have been these two competing theories about the Mueller investigation. One is that there really was treasonous collusion with Russia to steal an election or at least very good reason for thinking so. And that explains why the Department of Justice and FBI did so many things that you would normally not see, spying on a campaign, running informants, having wiretaps. The other theory was that this is actually just kind of a witch hunt. This is an attempt to bring down Trump through any means possible. So when you get plea agreements that have nothing to do with Russia and Michael Cohen was being looked into because our government believed that he was the central linchpin, that he had gone to Prague and met with Russians, nothing in these documents say any of that thing. So when you have the evidence supporting this other theory, that this isn't a legitimate investigation but just a political means to get rid of Trump, I think that needs to be part of the conversation as well. KURTZ: Richard, there were two prosecution memos on Cohen. The Mueller's office called for leniency, Manhattan U.S. attorney's office called for substantial jail term and said that Trump directed the hush money payments to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal before the election to cover that up and that's damaging. But based on Michael Cohen's account, didn't everyone in America basically know that? RICHARD FOWLER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I think it depends on who voter you're asking, which American you're asking. I think there is a couple things that we find out from many of these documents. One, we know that there is still more work to be done by Mueller and his team. A lot of it is redacted. So we actually don't know if there was or wasn't Russian collusion because it could be in blocked out parts of the memos or the parts of the memo that are currently under seal. But what we do know, and I think it's important that we do know this, that the president of the United States asked his lawyer to pay off a porn star and a playboy playmate. And for a party that, you know, says that they have a moral high ground, that is problematic. I think it is important for the media to cover that. KURTZ: I agree it's important. We covered it along not as a tabloid story but as a money trail story but is not Russian collusion. Let me just ask you, Sara, before we move on, because there has been nonstop coverage of all this Mueller stuff this week. What got lost is that Trump nominated William Barr, President Bush 41's attorney general, to come back and run the Justice Department. Given all the criticism of the acting attorney general, Matt Whitaker, who criticized Mueller, I don't see the pres giving Trump a whole lot of credit for picking a guy who is well qualified and not a crony. SARA FISCHER, MEDIA REPORTER, AXIOS: Who is lauded by Washington officials as someone who can be trusted in this position. I think that it's been largely skipped over because it is not the biggest and most controversial story of the week. KURTZ: Or does it not support the media narrative that Trump is trying to squelch the -- FISCHER: And undermine the investigation, exactly right. KURTZ: So let's turn to the media coverage of the Paul Manafort memo. It says that the prosecutor say Manafort told repeated and discernible lies even while he was supposedly cooperating with the special counsel's office, and including about a meeting with a business colleague in Ukraine, said to have ties to Russian intelligence. Is that a significant story? HEMINGWAY: I'm not sure and I mean Paul Manafort has his own trouble and he seems to have made poor decisions while he is -- KURTZ: He's got credibility problems, to say the least. HEMINGWAY: But again, this is another one of these people who supposed to be a central figure that shows us that there was this collusion between Russia and Trump to steal the election that rightly belonged to Hillary Clinton. KURTZ: Right. HEMINGWAY: He has been investigated to an inch of his life and we still don't have any evidence of Russia collusion. Some people are willing to wait for years, decades, whatever it takes. Bit other people might think, gee, this really doesn't seem like they really had legitimate reasons to be worried about Russia collusion. KURTZ: There was nothing -- HEMINGWAY: There was an interesting story this week that came out of CNN where some of the principles involved in setting up the special counsel, they said they didn't believe there was Russia collusion. By that point, they knew that wasn't true. But they were seeking to rein in the president. That is a very surprising admission and that is very problematic for people who want to have the Russia collusion investigation have credibility. KURTZ: Richard, particularly in the case of Mike Flynn, the former national security advisor, but others too, what do you make of some conservative commentators including here on Fox saying, well, lying to investigators is basically a process crime, an underlying crime, and therefore is no that big a deal? FOWLER: So in the Mike Flynn case in particular, I think he has to be held to a higher standard for a couple of reasons. Number one, he was a three- star general. Number two, he had the job and he was going for the job to be the national security advisor to the president of the United States of America, which is one of the highest positions in our government. And not only did he lie to the FBI but he also lied to the vice president. So it's disheartening to me -- KURTZ: He did a whole lot of lie. FOWLER: Yeah, but it's disheartening to me to see conservative commentators defend him and say, oh, it's a mistake when he lied to the person, to our vice president and the president. That's problematic and he belonged behind bars for that. KURTZ: And it might have been different if Democrats accused of lying -- FOWLER: I think if it was a Democrat, they belong behind bars too. KURTZ: A big deal to me because it is at the heart of our law enforcement system. HEMINGWAY: People should not lie to federal authorities. That's absolutely true. It is also true that the investigation itself produced these crimes. Here is another crime that happened related to Mike Flynn. Someone in the Obama administration made a criminal leak of that phone call. I don't even know if it has been investigated. Certainly no one has been held accountable. That was one of the three leaks of information that really set up the Russia hysteria that a lot of people fell for. None of them had been investigated. Nobody has been held accountable. FISCHER: I'm going to push back on that point for a second. I mean, just to say that if it weren't for this investigation, then he wouldn't have committed a crime, he just shouldn't have committed the crime. HEMINGWAY: That's true, but if the investigation is producing its own crimes, that's not very -- KURTZ: So -- go ahead. HEMINGWAY: People were promised treasonous collusion with Russia. They're not getting anything -- FOWLER: But Mollie, here's the point. The point is it's not that he called the ambassador. It's the fact that he chose to lie about calling the ambassador that makes it problematic. HEMINGWAY: Actually that's not true. When it was first reported, David Ignatius of the Washington Post -- FOWLER: We can debate about (INAUDIBLE) we want to, but would you cover it up? He covered it up. Michael Cohen covered it up. KURTZ: I'm going to have you guys think (ph) this outside. I did find it fascinating. We played those clips earlier about how depressed and deflated some of the commentators particularly MSNBC looked on Flynn business. So, John Kelly, I mean, it seems like, you know, it's been a year of stories, he's out the door, he's toast, he's a dead man walking. Well, yesterday, President Trump confirmed the latest round of story that the general will be leaving as White House chief of staff this month. Let me read to you from Washington Post news story, Mollie. How much difference can any White House chief of staff make with the headstrong, impulsive and mercurial president who often governs by impulse and tweet, is uninterested in reading lengthy briefings, and is happiest at his rallies? According to that -- HEMINGWAY: Is that a news story or -- that's a surprising amount of opinion for a news story. But this is one of these things that people have been so interested in when Kelly is going to depart. We've heard this dozens of times. Apparently it's finally happening. And like a stopped clock, sometimes it ends up -- KURTZ: It feels kind of anticlimactic (ph) because his demise, his threshold device has been predicted so many times, and of course it was only over the summer that the president came out saying he'll be staying through 2020. We all said, well, yeah, maybe. I mean, this is a guy who was fired so many times in the press, but clearly their relationship had deteriorated and that's why it doesn't feel as dramatic to me as would otherwise. FOWLER: No, I don't think it's dramatic at all. I think the president does have the ability to pick his chief of staff. I think it's ironic that if you look at some of tweets from eight years ago, the third year of Obama's term, President Trump criticized Obama for having three chief of staffs three years in. KURTZ: It looks a little different when you're behind the big desk. Sara, let's close with this New York Times story, an investigative piece on two women, let's put them up on the screen, who worked at the president's golf course club in Bedminster, New Jersey. They both say that they are illegal immigrants. One said she made his bed. She cleans his clothes. That he was kind and gave her a 100-dollar tip on occasion. But that she was offended by his anti-immigrant rhetoric. Is that story big enough and is it fair game? FISCHER: I think it plays into a narrative that President Trump is using this immigration debate as part of a political plug but he doesn't actually feel so much strongly about these immigrants. KURTZ: Except that he didn't know. The story says that he didn't have direct knowledge that they were immigrants. They faked their papers. FISCHER: Yes. KURTZ: And couldn't you investigate any business and finds some illegal immigrants? FISCHER: That's of course but has the president come out and say I completely feel awful about this, this is such a big deal? He hasn't said anything. I think the reason is because he doesn't think it's that big of a deal that he had illegal immigrants working at his gold club in Bedminster. I'm from New Jersey. I grew up close to that golf club. I mean, there are a lot of illegal immigrants and people that come to New Jersey and then go on to get papers. So it's not the most uncommon story. I just think it plays into a narrative that President Trump is going hard after immigrants, illegal immigrants, but at the same time, when this happens, he hasn't really tweeted anything about it. KURTZ: The White House has not responded. All right, let me get a break here. Remember to check out my new podcast. More details on that later. Ahead, Anthony Scaramucci will be here on the president's rough week with the press. When we come back, big time fireworks on the view as the celebration of the life of George Herbert Walker Bush turns into another round of Trump-bashing (ph). (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JON MEACHAM, PRESIDENTIAL BIOGRAPHER: George Herbert Walker Bush was America's last great soldier- statesman, a 20th century founding father. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Former Newsweek editor and Bush biographer Jon Meacham paying tribute to George Herbert Walker Bush as the Washington Cathedral funeral. But in this sea of media praise, some pundits couldn't resist using 41's death to bash 45, such as MSNBC host and former George W. Bush, Nicolle Wallace. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) NICOLLE WALLACE, HOST, MSNBC (voice over): I think what everyone is getting at is that under Donald Trump, the office of the presidency has been debased in a way that is unimaginable for people who served every past president. (END VIDEOTAPE) KURTZ: And then there was the brawl on The View when Meghan McCain objected rather forcefully to Joy Behar turning a discussion of Bush's record into an attack on President Trump. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MCCAIN: Can we focus on the president, please? I don't want to talk about Trump when we're in the moment of -- we're honoring a great president. JOY BEHAR, HOST, MSNBC: Excuse me a second please. I want to talk about -- MCCAIN: But I'm not interested in your one-issue voting. BEHAR: I don't care what you're interested in. I'm talking! MCCAIN: I don't care what -- WHOOPI GOLDBERG, HOST, MSNBC: You know what? We'll be right back. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: That is called cutting to commercial. Mollie, what do you make of Joy Behar who is arguing with Meghan McCain who is married to your boss at The Federalist? She's hardly the only one hijacking the discussion of George H.W. Bush and his legacy to beat up on Trump. HEMINGWAY: We did see a lot of this. And it manages to be disrespectful to both presidents, both President H.W. Bush and President Trump. This is a time to remember all the great things that the first President Bush has done. He only served one term but it was a very significant period in time. His role in the widwifing the end of the Cold War alone gives you more than enough to talk about. You don't have to talk about -- everything doesn't have to be about the current president. KURTZ: Meghan McCain wasn't having it. The Daily Mail reports that off the set, Joy Behar continued to rage and said she couldn't take this anymore. So, some of this gets really personal. FOWLER: It does. The award goes to Whoopi on this one for cutting to commercial, and I think rightfully so. I think this past -- the earlier part of this week, we spent a good amount of time celebrating the United States, our democracy, and respect for our institutions which is what George H.W. Bush stood for to his dying day. I mean, I think there was a big conversation about whether or not he would invite President Trump to his funeral. I was like, that's a no brainer. Of course, he would, because it's beyond what he said about his family, it's more about the presidency of the United States. And George H.W. is one person that gets that. KURTZ: You know, I understand some comparisons are inevitable between 41 and 45 given their different style, shall we say. But by the time of the national cathedral funeral, it's been going on for days. The Trump denigration seemed to me by those who don't like this president was just out in the open. The Washington Post had three different headlines criticizing Trump on a day that was supposed to be devoted to George Herbert Walker Bush. FISCHER: Yeah, I think that's an unfortunate thing. You really want to focus on the life and legacy of George H.W. Bush. You don't want to have to tie it into the current administration. I can see why someone like Nicolle Wallace is going to highlight the difference between the two. I mean, you're talking about a hero, World War II veteran, versus somebody who hasn't served, who had never been in politics before. So I get the comparison, but I think it's not necessary to go that far deep into comparing the two when you're just trying to preserve someone's legacy. KURTZ: Right. And of course, Meghan McCain just went through this with her own dad a few months ago, John McCain, and what many felt was President Trump's lack of positive reaction or obligatory saying nice things. Mollie, it didn't seem to matter in this case that Trump didn't make racial remarks about George H.W. Bush, that he met privately to Bush family, that he went to the Capitol to view the casket, that he attended the funeral, some people didn't like the way he was sitting there. The media narrative was set, was it not? HEMINGWAY: Oh, absolutely. And even to Richard's point, the proper thing to do when a previous president dies is to invite the president. This is a proper norm. That you wouldn't do things like that is what is the breaking of the norm. And there was a lot about President George H.W. Bush. He was so virtuous. He was someone with a lot of dignity. That's something we all can learn from. And when people say, oh, just President Trump needs to learn from that, I think our world today shows that we all can learn a lot from that. KURTZ: And just briefly, Richard, it's fair to point out that George H.W. Bush was president in far less polarizing time. Today's polarization is not completely due to Donald Trump. He didn't invent it. FOWLER: No, he didn't invent it. And I will say this. I think there was a lot of coverage of the entrance of Donald trump into the row of presidents. I think that some commentators say that he was sort of out of the commander-in- chief club and there was a lot of conversation about that. It was overplayed because I think the day was less about Donald Trump and the day was more about -- should have been more about H.W. Bush and his legacy. KURTZ: Right. Quick footnote. Jon Meacham, we learned, his biographer, read the eulogy to President Bush in his dying days and classically George H.W. Bush said, that's a lot about me, Jon. (LAUGHTER) KURTZ: Richard Fowler, Sara Fischer, Mollie Hemingway, thanks so much for being here this Sunday. Ahead, appalling new revelations about how Les Moonves tried to cover up his sexual misconduct at CBS. Will that cost him $120 million? But up next, Republican senators challenged the president on the death of Jamal Khashoggi and the next U.N. ambassador who used to work her at Fox. KURTZ: The media had been highly critical of President Trump for refusing to accept the CIA's finding that MBS, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, ordered the murder of opinion journalist Jamal Khashoggi. So, they played it as a pretty big story when some Senate Republicans broke with the president after a CIA briefing. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: There's not a smoking gun, there's a smoking saw. You have to be willfully blind not to come to the conclusion that this was orchestrated and organized by people under the command of MBS. DAVID IGNATIUS, COLUMNIST, WASHINGTON POST: There is zero question of what MBS did. He is complicit in murder. There is still a question of what the United States does about it. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: And I get that the president has to weigh the diplomatic and financial consequences of our relationship with Saudi Arabia, but it's really becoming possible to ignore the evidence in this tragic case. President Trump has named Heather Nauert, the State Department spokeswoman best known for having been part of the team at Fox and Friends, to be the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, and some pundits are disparaging the choice. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: In terms of what we normally look for at the United Nations, her resume is very thin. Her experience in diplomacy is nonexistent as best as I can tell. JOHN AVLON, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Heather Nauert will be a great choice to be, for example, the next White House press secretary. Choosing her as U.N. ambassador makes no sense. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All the skeptics that seem to be lining up on the left about her, bring it on. When she goes in front of them for confirmation, she will knock it out of the park as she has been for two years. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Look, it's true that Heather Nauert who also worked at ABC doesn't have much diplomatic experience and it's easy to say she is just a TV personality, but she has done a good job dealing with journalists at state, was promoted to undersecretary, and besides, Trump may see this mainly as a communications job. Now, some of her predecessors have had tremendous credentials such as George H.W. Bush, but others were politicians without international experience or academics or even journalists. Samantha Power was a terrific journalist and author when she joined Barack Obama's campaign, spent some time in the White House, and then got the U.N. job. John Scali was an ABD diplomatic correspondent when Richard Nixon gave him a White House advisor job and then sent him to the U.N. So this question, the reaction have been different if, let's just say, Nauert worked for the Today Show instead of Fox and Friends? The Weekly Standard, the influential conservative magazine here in Washington, may be in its final days. The parent company owned by billionaire Philip Anschutz says it's exploring possibility for the Standard. It was founded by Rupert Murdoch in 1995 and led first by Bill Kristol and now by Stephen Hayes, a Fox News contributor. The Standard has lost circulation while being highly critical of President Trump. It's also been a very tough time for print magazines. Ahead on Media Buzz, Kevin Hart is blowing off the Oscars after criticism of his homophobic tweets from years ago. We will debate that one. But first, after a year of stories predicting his exit, General John Kelly is out as the president's top aide. Anthony Scaramucci is on deck. HOWARD KURTZ, MEDIA BUZZ, HOST: It has been a tough week for the president, ripped by the media over the Mueller investigation. It ain't over yet, another White House shake-up. Joining us now from New York is Anthony Scaramucci, the former White House communications director and author of the book, Trump: The Blue Collar President. So this latest White House shake-up -- you're an expert on those, after years of journalistic predictions and rumors, the president confirmed yesterday that John Kelly, the guy who fired you, will be leaving this month as White House chief of staff. Is that a good development for the president? ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI, FORMER WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: You know, I think so. And I respect John's career as a military person and 40 years in the service. And listen, he lasted 46 times longer than me, Howie, so he had to be doing some things right there. But I think the president needs somebody that really likes him, likes his agenda, and wants to work with him on his agenda. And he also needs somebody that can push back on the president the way the president likes to be pushed back on. I think the big misnomer is that the president likes sycophants. I think the real people that are closest to the president realize that he doesn't like that at all. If anything, he likes an honest, rigorous debate. But he wants them to really know he's the boss, he's the one in charge, and he's the one who is going to direct the traffic in the end. KURTZ: But is it a misnomer that the president's management style is kind of chaotic and he's constantly cycling through not just chiefs of staff, but other top aides? SCARAMUCCI: It's interesting. I actually don't find it to be like that. What I find it to be is if he -- if he had a good hub and spoke system and he had one guy as his chief of staff that really liked him, and then he had fortification of confidence of those other people, the thing would actually run very seamlessly, just the way it did inside the Trump organization. I will take you back to the Trump organization, 15 to 20 years of solid management there. He had a hub and spoke system. And once he trusted everybody in those seats, he did well and the administration or the company did even better. And so, he just needs to get somebody in the seat that likes him, that can talk to him in a way he likes to be talked to, that recognizes that there is numero dos, if you will. And then, the last piece is he has got to get people in those seats that want his agenda that are less establishment- oriented and really want to help the American people. I mean, you have to think about the sacrifices that the president has made to take this job. I know people laugh at me when I say that, but he had an unbelievable life before he entered the American presidency. KURTZ: Yeah. SCARAMUCCI: And you know, you got a lot of these establishment guys that are trying to gum him up, as he is trying to serve the American people. So let's pick somebody to be the chief of staff... KURTZ: All right. SCARAMUCCI: ... that would help him prosecute that. KURTZ: Let me get you on this latest media flaps. So Rex Tillerson is talking to CBS' Bob Schieffer and he says the president is pretty undisciplined, doesn't really like to read, and sometimes wanted -- he tells him to do things that are illegal. The president actually now tweeted back that Tillerson is dumb as a rock and lazy as hell. Should he be disparaging those who work for him like that? SCARAMUCCI: Well, look, I'm not in love with that tweet. You know, if I was there, I would say he should not necessarily do that, you're the president. I think it's unfair for Rex to be saying he's trying to get him to do things illegally. I think all the president is trying to do is push the envelope. He's a big guy that brainstorms a lot, makes a lot of suggestions. If some of those suggestions are illegal, and of course, he doesn't want you to do those, he's just trying to push the envelope of his creativity. But I shouldn't be calling him dumb as a rock. If I was there, I would recommend the president not to do that. KURTZ: All right. SCARAMUCCI: He would then laugh at me and says he's going to do it any way probably, Howie. That's how it goes. KURTZ: You know where you speak. So, this is sort of a related question. Is the president helping himself in this heavy coverage week of the Mueller investigation, but with these constant tweeting attacks on Mueller accusing his office of McCarthyism, going after Comey, does that help him in terms of the way the story is perceived? SCARAMUCCI: Yeah. So it probably doesn't help him in the way the story is perceived. But I actually do think it is helping him because I think he's really trying to send a message that he hasn't done anything wrong. And he thinks this thing has dragged on for too long. And if you really analyze what took place, there is nothing even on the edge of illegality as it relates to the president. So I know other media networks are saying that he committed felony, so on and so forth. But that's actually not true from the report. Even if you are trying to surmise what's in the redaction, I think the president is in the free and clear on all that stuff. KURTZ: All right. SCARAMUCCI: He's exhausted -- he's exhausted by this. KURTZ: Let me ask you this. With the guilty pleas by Cohen, and by Manafort, by Flynn, and by Gates, some media outlets say, well, the president, you know, is involved in a culture of lying. I don't think that's fair, but it is also true that he hired all these people. Is that a fair criticism? SCARAMUCCI: Well, I think -- I think what a fair criticism is that some of these things that happened outside of the campaign, maybe there needed to be a little more vetting of what these guys were actually doing. But I don't think you can tag on the president something that happened 10, 5, 8 years ago, or things that happened in Michael's case. Full disclosure, I'm a friend of Michael's and I wish him and his family well. But in Michael's case, as it relates to the taxi cab medallion stuff, I don't understand how that can be pinned on the president. KURTZ: Right. So that stuff is completely separate. SCARAMUCCI: So it's totally separate. So if you're going to tell me you are hiring thousands of people and that you don't have a few rogues in the system, look, at Sky Bridge, I do a background check on every single person. I have to tell you, we usually get everything right. But sometimes, we don't. And we fire those people very quickly. But at the end of the day, people are imperfect, Howie. Probably nobody is more imperfect than me. But let me tell you something, people are imperfect. And so at the end of the day, you are going to have situations like this. KURTZ: Well, you have embraced your imperfections, unlike some people. And finally, there is an emotional outpouring in the media of gratitude and affection for George Herbert Walker Bush. The president acted graciously, met privately with the Bush family. He praised Bush even though it is well known that he was at odds with the family, especially George H.W. Do you think he may have learned something after what happened -- after John McCain's death in terms of conducting himself in sort of a high road, the passing of somebody whose family he disagrees with? SCARAMUCCI: Well, listen. This stuff I don't understand. He handled that thing like a gem. He did everything right, lent the plane out, went to the event. They asked him not to speak. He was gracious said no problem. KURTZ: So why did the media not give him more credit for that? SCARAMUCCI: Well, they're sore at him for all the other stuff. At the end of the day, he beat the pants off the media in November of 2016. They still can't believe it. And he's still driving a very hard wedge against them. And so, they made themselves the story now and they're pounding back at him. But at the end of the day, he handled that very well. And I thought he looked great yesterday at the Army-Navy game. And by the way, he got a very rousing ovation from the Navy and the Army at that game. OK. So at the end of the day, look at his record, look at what he's doing for the country... KURTZ: Right. SCARAMUCCI: And let's sort of dial it down a little bit. You know, Kevin McCarthy was on Maria's show earlier. My guess is that they will cut a deal with the Democrats going into 2019. My guess is he's going to have a very good narrative for the 2020 election. KURTZ: We'll see. And we'll see how the media narrative develops as well. Anthony Scaramucci, great to see you from New York. SCARAMUCCI: Happy Sunday. Good to be here. Thank you. KURTZ: Ahead, another mess for Facebook, as internal emails reveals its cut-throat culture. But coming up, Charlie Gasparino has been doing some digging since the New York Times reveal the cover-up and even more sexual misconduct by Les Moonves and a pay-off involving celebrated producer Don Hewitt. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NORAH O'DONNELL, CBS THIS MORNING CO-HOST: Report this morning says CBS' former chairman and CEO Les Moonves tried to destroy evidence and misled investigators looking into sexual misconduct allegations against him. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: That draft report from two outside law firms hired by CBS obtained by the New York Times is stunning. Before he was ousted as CBS chairman, Les Moonves deleted hundreds of text messages to cover-up his attempts to silence an actress named Bobbie Phillips, who accused him forced oral sex more than two decades ago. Moonves -- and this is new, received such sex from at least four women work working for CBS, under circumstances that was not involving romance. Another CBS employee was said to be on-call to provide oral sex in his office. And other staffers knew about it, the report said. Moonves acknowledged that and other instances of sexual conduct, but said they were consensual. And that he fully cooperated with the probe. Joining us from Connecticut is Charlie Gasparino, senior correspondent for Fox Business Network. And, Charlie, you have been doing some reporting on the CBS board and how it allowed this conduct to go on for a very long time. Explain. CHARLIE GASPARINO, FOX BUSINESS NETWORK SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: Well, a lot of the board members who are -- board members have been interviewed by the investigators, they said -- particularly some of the independents are saying they had no idea this was going on. They weren't friends with Les Moonves. This was not something that was openly debated until very recently at the board level, his sexual misconduct, or alleged sexual misconduct. The other thing that is kind of interesting here is a lot of the allegations are before his contract. I think his last contract was 2017. These are allegations that occurred -- you know, at least based on what we know, before he was married to Julie Chen, right. So we are talking 10 years ago maybe or longer. So what's interesting is that when this stuff first surfaced, the board really doesn't want to pay him the $120 million. They think it looks bad. How do you get not to pay him the $120 million? Well, you have to show some sort of a lie, a violation of his contract that is much more contemporaneous. KURTZ: And that, Charlie, is where the cover-up comes up. GASPARINO: Yes. KURTZ: There is a report that the lawyers, the investigators asked him to bring in his iPad so it can be checked for messages. And he brought in his son's iPad in an attempt to deceive the board. GASPARINO: Right. You see, that's how they're going to deny this. And that has been modus operandi from day one, when he left, and they cut the deal where his $120 million would be contingent on the investigation. We reported -- I reported on Fox News that, that day was a Sunday, maybe a couple of months ago, that listen, everybody thinks he's going to get this golden parachute. He probably isn't because of his investigation. And whatever he tells investigators that might be lies. And I tell you, that has been from day one what they have been handling on, basically denying his compensation because of some more contemporaneous indiscretion like lying about that. KURTZ: Lying and lying repeatedly. It would look awful for him to get that kind of money. But the New York Times seems to have a pipeline, has got one after another, Jeff Rapp reports, it sounds to me like somebody at the CBS board or close to the CBS board wants this out there, so make sure it is not changed, and make sure that in the end Moonves doesn't get the big golden parachute. GASPARINO: The leaks have been pretty amazing. As someone who loves leaks and I made a career out of them, these leaks blew me away. Because you know there isn't a lot to gain on the board for leaking this stuff. I mean, Les Moonves would come out and would say you violated our confidentiality. There is a confidentiality that is supposed to occur while this investigation goes on. There is one place I think that people -- that people believe, if there is ever a place where it could happen and it can happen much more easily is not at the CBS board, not at CBS management obviously, but at national news. This is either the Shari Redstone, who he has battled against, and you know, her people who might leak this. KURTZ: Right. GASPARINO: There is some separation between -- right. KURTZ: Let me jump in because I have one more I want to get to. There is a second draft report, again in the Times, that CBS was right to fire 60 Minutes producer Jeff Fager, who had been accused of more minor instance of sexual misconduct. And that 20 years ago, CBS paid $450,000 to a woman who accused Don Hewitt, the legendary, celebrated, long-time executive producer of 60 Minutes. She was accusing him on sexual assault and that continues to this day. They keep renewing the deal. And the woman has received more than $5 million. GASPARINO: You know, I just wonder why these aren't disclosable (ph) events. I mean, you know, you would think that something that is that material, the number isn't material maybe to the corporate earnings. But the fact that it affects a major player like Don Hewitt, why that isn't -- why that isn't some how discussed at the board level, disclosed to investors... KURTZ: Right. GASPARINO: ... that they should know this. I mean, this is where this gets really tricky for CBS. This is where law enforcement officials might come in and say why didn't investors know about this? KURTZ: It's really -- it's really something. GASPARINO: They do have some issues. KURTZ: It's really something. CBS isn't the only one who has a similar problem at Fox. I found this to be really startling. Charlie Gasparino, great to see you as always. GASPARINO: Anytime. KURTZ: And after the break, should Kevin Hart have apologized for years old tweets knocking gays or was he right to putt on hosting the Oscar's? KURTZ: Kevin Hart bowed out from hosting the Oscar's after the motion picture academy demanded an apology for nearly decade old tweets that were clearly homophobic. And on Instagram, he refused. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KEVIN HART, AMERICAN COMEDIAN: I'm almost 40 years old. If you don't believe that people change, grow, evolve as they get older, I don't know what to tell you. If you want to hold people in a position where you always have to justify the past, I'm the wrong guy, man. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Interesting video production there. Hart later said in a statement it's not the first time it has come up. I have addressed it, I've spoken on it, I said where the rights and wrongs were. Joining us now is Emily Jashinsky, culture editor of the Federalist. So, Kevin Hart basically saying I'm out of here, I have dealt with this before. I don't want to be a distraction. I'm not apologizing to you suits. What do you make of him bailing on this prime hosting gig? EMILY JASHINSKY, THE FEDERALIST: Well, I like that we played the video because what's particularly interesting and I would say ridiculous about this case, is that he's not standing by what he said. He says he's changed, he says he has evolved. And so, he's essentially being punished for something he doesn't even believe, and something that his mind has changed on. So, I mean, it's just one of those situations that is so hard to stomach. I'm disappointed that he stepped down because I thought this was a huge missed opportunity for the academy and for Kevin Hart, two very powerful institutions in of themselves, one of the most successful comedians in the world, one of the most of powerful, the most powerful... KURTZ: Yeah. JASHINSKY: ... awards ceremony in the entertainment industry, to just draw a line in the sand and say, we're not going to cave into this. KURTZ: Right. Now, I want to be clear that these homophobic tweets are offensive, they can't be defended. For example, he wrote -- this is you know seven to nine years ago, if his son played with his daughter's doll house, he would break it over his head because that's gay, or I'm not passing along a picture of a naked man. That would make me gay by association. But, as you say, years have passed and he says he has changed. JASHINSKY: Years have passed, he says he has changed. And he also -- he used a slur in some of these tweets. And like you said, not all of this can be defended by any means. He's not even standing by it. And so, to punish him for something that they're not even standing by, you can go back to any comedian. And Nick Cannon, in fact, has been finding examples of other comedians... KURTZ: Where did he write this? JASHINSKY: On Twitter. Nick Cannon on Twitter has been finding similar examples of other comedians using words like this. I don't care if it's Kevin Hart, I don't care if it's Sarah Silverman, if it's Chelsea Handler, Michelle Wolf, Stephen Colbert, I don't care who it is. We can't hold comedians to the standards that we hold politicians to, because comedians say things. KURTZ: Yeah. It is sort of their stock and trade. But there is a line that shouldn't be crossed. I think even Kevin Hart realizes that. And he did apologize to the LBGTQ community for his insensitive words of the past. He didn't have any problem doing that. JASHINSKY: Right. KURTZ: Have we reached the point now where like nobody is qualified for anything. Nobody can pass muster because sometimes, some place in the past, they may have said something wrong or insensitive, and somebody is going to dig it up. JASHINSKY: Yeah. I don't know who they're going to find to host. I'm sure they will find somebody, but it's not going to be... KURTZ: Mr. Rogers is no longer with us. JASHINSKY: And I would say, I always make a joke that if we purge all the comedians who said something offensive in the past, we're going to be left with Jimmy Fallon. But the left can't even handle Jimmy Fallon, who can normalize Trump by touching his hair. KURTZ: Right. JASHINSKY: So we have to stand up. I think this was a missed opportunity. It's disappointing. And the saddest thing is he couldn't even apologize it in a way he couldn't even say that he was wrong, and we all could move on. That wasn't even good enough in this case. KURTZ: He was willing to apologize, but not to the academy. I guess he just felt that he was being put on the spot, in a way that he thought was unfair. And you're right, they will find somebody else who has never had a Twitter account, for example. JASHINSKY: That would be the way. KURTZ: Emily Jashinsky, great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us this Sunday. Still to come, inside info on how Facebook tries to crush competitors. And more evidence of Google staffers wanting to bury conservative news sites. Stay with us. KURTZ: Facebook cultivated an image of being about friends, but the British Parliament had unearthed emails that show it to be another cut-throat corporate. Facebook decided to collect all the text and calls for Android phone users. Even one executive wrote that asking people to opt-in was a pretty high risk thing to do from a PR perspective. Facebook bought a privacy app to collect data on its competitors. And when the company wanted to restrict access to Facebook friends who Twitter's rival (inaudible) service (ph), CEO Zuckerberg wrote, yes, go for it. They soon went out of business. Facebook says the correspondent tells only one side of the story and omits important context. We've reported before on Google executives decrying the election of Donald Trump. Now, the Daily Caller obtained emails showing some staffers wanted bury search results from conservative news sites. One engineer wrote, how many times did you see the election now card with items from opinion blogs, Breitbart, Daily Caller elevated next to legitimate news organizations. That's something that can and should be fixed. They're not blogs, by the way. But another Google engineer, Hillary supporter, objected, thinking that Breitbart, et cetera are not legitimate news sources is contrary to the beliefs of a major portion of our user base and is partially what got us into this mess. MSNBC is not more legit than drudge, just bus Rachel Maddow may be more educated, less deplorable, closer to our views than, say, Sean Hannity. How about that, at least one Googler standing up against blatant bias? Burying search results because of ideology that's contrary to the whole reason people use Google. And there is some evidence. Well, that's it for this edition of Media Buzz. I'm Howard Kurtz. Thanks for watching. Hey, check out my new Podcast, Media Buzz Meter. 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Load-Date: December 10, 2018 End of Document The Mueller Memos; Comey Testifies On The Hill; The Mueller Probe Has Been Rolling But Of All The Taxpayer Dollars That Have Been Spent, The Team Still Got No Evidence To Pinpoint That President Trump And His Associates Colluded With The Russians To Steal The 2016 Elections; Three Whistleblowers From The Clinton Foundation Have Turned Over Hundreds And Hundreds Of Documents That May Show Clear Evidence Of Pay-To-Play Scheme Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST December 7, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8202 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Catherine Herridge, Tammy Bruce Guests: Mark Penn, Darrell Issa, Doug Schoen, Larry Elder, Joe Concha, Sean Spicer Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Thanks, Tucker. And this is a FOX News alert. Major breaking news tonight on multiple fronts. The Mueller memos are out. Paul Manafort accused of lying to investigators. Michael Cohen will spend significant time in prison, and yet bad news for the left. No evidence of any collusion. Nothing. And what the left is claiming isn't true. We'll prove that in the course of our hour tonight. We've been saying this for months, Trump Russia collusion has been, remains a hoax. We now have evidence. Meanwhile, disgraced FBI Director James Comey testified today on Capitol Hill. He wants you to believe that FISA abuse never happened. We're going to show you how he's shocking, indignant remarks are actually proven wrong. And we'll also tell you who needs to be prosecuted as soon as possible. It is now day 569 of the Mueller witch hunt. And yes, what we've been telling you about our two tiered system of justice has never been worse. We start tonight, a lot of breaking news in our opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. We have major developments tonight from the Mueller witch hunt. Here's what you need to know: first, the special counsel's memo on Paul Manafort is out. It is heavily redacted. We do know however that Robert Mueller believes that Paul Manafort breached his plea deal and lied to investigators all surrounding alleged crimes, none of which have anything to do with President Trump, none of which has for do with Russia or anything to do with collusion. Instead, a source with knowledge of the investigation tonight telling FOX News that much of the redacted information likely includes potential criminal allegations, we are told, against Tony Podesta. That would be John Podesta's brother, Democratic lobbyist. John Podesta, of course, the Clinton campaign chair. Absolutely nothing. Now, we're talking about in the Manafort case, tax evasion, other charges, bank loan applications, dating back to 2007. White House press secretary Sara Sanders issued this statement that said, quote, the government's filing in Mr. Manafort's case is absolutely nothing about the president. It says even less about collusion. It is devoted almost entirely to lobbying related issues -- and I'll add long before Paul Manafort ever met Donald Trump. And also breaking today, two separate sentencing memos were filed against one time Trump attorney Michael Cohen. First, the Southern District of New York completely rejecting Cohen's pleas for leniency, writing that, quote, a substantial term of imprisonment is warranted. Cohen's decision to plead guilty rather than seek a pardon gone does not make him a hero. The prosecutor's recommended only a slight reduction to the suggested five-year prison sentence. The next memo from the special counsel, that focused on Cohen admitting that he lied under oath to the federal government writing, quote, the sentence imposed should reflect the fact that lying to federal investigators, in fact, has real consequences. Let's be clear, the one thing that these two filings have in common, nothing to do with Russia or collusion at all. Zero evidence in any of these documents of Trump Russia collusion. Zero. Now, today, the president, he applauded the ruling. He tweeted, quote: Totally clears the president. Thank you. And the president's attorney Rudy Giuliani called these findings: Complete exoneration of the president. They have nothing. We are very happy about it. And president and Giuliani, they're right about this. Legal scholar Alan Dershowitz, very passionate tonight, echoing a lot of these sentiments, including by the way, saying, don't ever think about making a deal with Mueller because it's not going to work out too well for you. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALAN DERSHOWITZ, LEGAL SCHOLAR: Right now, it does not sound like it's good news for Mueller. It doesn't sound like in Cohen they have the found a witness that will give them the key to the kingdom. So far, the only solid evidence that he has provided is the campaign contribution issue and it's a very, very weak case. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Tonight, we have two men facing years behind bars. The third George Papadopoulos was released from prison today after serving his 12-day sentence for lying to Mueller's investigators. Meanwhile, we had earlier in the week, American hero, Michael Flynn, well, he pled guilty to lying to investigators and will become a convicted felon but only after his reputation and his finances were totally destroyed, and the question is, for what? When you read these documents, we hear about taxi medallions, fraudulent loan applications, tax evasion, lying about a potential project in Moscow that never got off the ground, and whether they stopped talking about it in January of 2016 or June of 2016. Wow! The horror. How will American ever recover? Clearly, the election was stolen by all this information. After months of intense investigations, millions and millions and millions of your dollars spent, seedy, perjury traps, legal coercion. We have absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing by the president of the United States. And then you ask yourself this question. Do you feel safer tonight? Do you feel safer that a low level campaign volunteer, he spent his 12 days in jail for allegedly lying to the omnipotent Robert Mueller? Do you feel safer that American military hero, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, that he had to sell his house to pay his legal bills? Oh, the thanks one gets for 33 years of service to his country, five of those years in combat. By the way neither Comey, McCabe, Strzok or anybody in the FBI thought he lied. But, of course, they put the screws to General Flynn and he had to compose a lie about lying and he did it to protect his family and to get out of the mess economically that they were putting him in. Do you feel any safer tonight that Michael Cohen is going to go to prison for a significant amount of time, let's see, for lying to Congress? Lying on a bank application? Taxi medallion loans? Not paying taxes? Do you feel safer knowing that Manafort might spend the rest of his life behind bars because of, again, tax fraud and lies on loan applications? Had nothing to do with Russia? Years before he met Trump? Do you feel safer that everyone surrounding the president is seemingly targeted and those on the left get away every single day scot-free? Is that the America we want to live in? Take for example, fired FBI Director James Comey and what we learned this week about him. "The Hill's" John Solomon reporting, we now have email chains that prove that Comey and others in Obama's DOJ, they actually, knowingly committed fraud on the FISA court and they used Hillary Clinton's bought and paid for phony Russian dossier, the bulk of the evidence in their FISA applications in their case to obtain a warrant to spy on a campaign associate by the name of Carter Page. Well, they did all of this we learned this week, knowing full well that the intel community did not trust the contents of Hillary's bought and paid Russian dossier. In other words, they knowingly committed fraud on the FISA courts, not once, twice, three but four times. Where is that investigation into Jim Comey and Sally Yates and Rod Rosenstein and everybody else that signed on to those FISA applications? Giving judges fraudulent, unverified, uncorroborated Russian lies not telling the judges that it was directly paid for by the opposition party candidate to spy on an opposition party? Well, today, Comey testified behind closed doors on Capitol Hill. His attorneys allegedly ran cover for him and prevented him from answering any tough questions. During a subsequent press conference, arrogantly, he's brushing off any charges that his FISA court conduct was wrong, illegal and disgusting. But I want you to think of this -- remember, he's the guy that signed on to the first warrant. That was in October of 2016. But that means he had to verify it was true. That meant he verified it. That means he corroborated it. That means he's standing behind it. But yet in January, at Trump Tower, he told Donald Trump, then president- elect, that it was salacious and unverified. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMES COMEY, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR: I have total confidence that the FISA process was followed and that the entire case was handled in a thoughtful, responsible way by DOJ and the FBI. I think the notion that FISA was abused here is nonsense. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Not even Christopher Steele believes his own dossier. And he's still defending it? The bulk of information used to get warrants to spy on Americans, is that a little more important tonight? I would think it is. We all know the dossier was and is a debunked lie, Comey never verified it, nobody verified it. Nobody corroborated Steele's so-called evidence. Steele himself wouldn't stand by it when questioned under oath in an interrogatory down in Great Britain, even after it was used to obtain a FISA warrant, even he said it was salacious and unproven months after they had the FISA warrant in place. And James Comey, I'll guess you sleep well tonight knowing that our two tiered justice system will never likely hold him accountable. So too will these liars, people that lied under oath. Well, Michael Cohen is in trouble tonight because of it. What about Cheryl Mills or Huma Abedin or Bruce Ohr, or Glenn Simpson, Christopher Steele, James Clapper, John Brennan, Andrew McCabe, Lois Lerner, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder? Yes, all those lied to authorities. They were never prosecuted, never even investigated in many cases. And let's not forget about James Comey. Remember he lied to Congress under oath. But I doubt he'll get the Cohen treatment tonight. And then you have the king and queen of corruption, Bill and Hillary Clinton, from mishandling top secret, classified information, obstructing justice, what, deleting subpoenaed emails, acid washing hard drives with Bleach Bit, busting up by hammers devices, phones and BlackBerrys, leveraging their political positions in order to rake in millions of dollars. The Clintons tonight are perhaps this country's most corrupt politicians, and they have never, ever, ever been held accountable with you. But that might be about to change. John Solomon, breaking news right here on this program last night, federal authorities received whistleblower information in 2017 alleging that the Clinton foundation of a whole bunch of wrongdoing. Congressman Mark Meadows has confirmed that the whistleblowers have, in fact, turned over hundreds of foundation documents to law makers and potentially now shedding light into the Clinton's cloud of corruption. We're talking about information surrounding quid pro quo promises made to big donors while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state and the commingling of funds with the foundation and the Clinton's private money and so much more. Including one glaring example, when Hillary Clinton as secretary of state, remember this deal, signed off on sending 20 percent of our uranium, the foundational material for nuclear weapons, to Vladimir Putin. And by the way, this occurred as the Clinton Foundation was receiving millions and millions of dollars from the chairman of Uranium One and all the banks involved. Now, think about this, we knew that Putin had operatives inside the United States. William Campbell was a spy within that network, identifying bribery, extortion, kickbacks and money laundering and guess what? Robert Mueller was the FBI director. In the end, Putin not only got the foothold into our uranium market, the deal happened and none of those people got in trouble. But the Clintons got the money, they the kickback to the foundation in terms of millions and millions of dollars. So, tonight, an investigation we now know as of yesterday is ongoing. I said over and over, it is time in America, we care about our constitutional republic that we end a two tiered justice system, that we have equal application of our laws and equal justice under the law. And now, we do have more good news, a federal judge just today agrees with me. Judge Joyce Lambert who is overseeing Judicial Watch's Freedom of Information Act lawsuit that involves Hillary's secret server email saga, it dropped a major bombshell this week about just how far the government is willing to go to skirt transparency laws, writing, quote: At best, the state's attempt to pass off its deficient search as legally adequate during settlement negotiations was negligence born out of incompetence. At worse, career employees in the state and justice departments colluded to scuttle public scrutiny of the Clinton, skirt FOIA, Freedom of Information Act, and hoodwink this court. And he didn't stop there, calling the Clinton email affair, quote, one of the gravest modern offenses to government transparency. This judge now has ordered additional fact finding in the case. But this is massive news and we'll continue to keep you updated. All right. Here to go through all of the day's news, FOX News contributor and, of course, investigative reporter, Sara Carter, the author of the number one "New York Times" bestseller "The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Greg Jarrett. The one thing as I read it through this, we've got a lot of the interesting things here. We've got a lot of really big sins like -- by the way, don't lie on a loan application. If you owe the taxes, pay the taxes. That's my advice, because obviously you're going to get in a lot of trouble. And when you read these things you say, OK, people did wrong things here. But none of it, not one bit of it, Greg Jarrett, has to do with Trump, Russia and collusion. And it seems it that the media is only fixated on one thing and that was Michael Cohen's payment as it relates to Stormy and Karen McDougal as somehow we now have a campaign finance violation. I've got a whole list of them here of Obama and a bunch of other people who committed them too. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: And they're civil penalties, they're not criminal cases. Why? Because to prove a criminal case of campaign violation, you have to prove that the candidate knowingly violated the campaign election laws and prosecutors rarely are able to prove that because most people in America, candidates especially don't even understand the incredibly complex laws. There's two things we learned from these memos today. One, in all three of them, there is no reference to Trump- Russia collusion to win the election. And the other thing we learned is that people like Manafort are refusing to tell Bob Mueller what Mueller wants to hear. In other words if you don't abide by this Russian hoax, then we're going to throw the book at you and come after you with a vengeance. HANNITY: You know, Sara, people say why do you compare all the things with the Clintons? Because we know she's violated the Espionage Act. It is the single biggest slam dunk case on obstruction of justice. We know that Comey and Strzok wrote an exoneration before they ever investigated. Strzok wanted and expected Hillary to win a hundred million to zero. Then it gets into, well, they exonerate her for crimes we know they commit. She then pays for a dossier that actually had real Russian lies in there that were spread to the American people. But also, what we learned this week in John Solomon's column is that, in fact, the FISA courts, the FBI and all those people that signed those FISA warrants, they knew they probably were false. They did it any way. That is a fraud on the court. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: That's absolutely right, Sean. What we have learned over the last nearly two years of investigations, both John Solomon and I, as well as congressional investigations is one thing, that the special counsel was appointed to investigate a non-crime. There was no crime there. And what was out there was actual crimes and potential crimes over the last two years that have been unraveled from uranium one and the testimony given by William Campbell about the dealings both with Clinton and the Clinton Foundation and now, the stories that have come out that John has put out there that are incredible, that there is hundreds of pages of documents that a whistle blower has turned over to Congress, several whistleblowers. We also know that General Flynn, I mean, incredibly, did not lie to the FBI agents. That came out of Comey's own mouth. Yet for some reason, Mueller was able to twist his arm and get him to admit to one count of lying, so that he could drag this honorable man, this hero, through the ringer and, you know, take away his ability to defend himself publicly. What we need now, though, is a special counsel, a second special counsel to investigate this. And this is coming from lawmakers on the Hill, from attorneys who have been very well read on this issue, whether William Barr, whether he gets nominated, becomes the until you attorney general, whether he will appoint a second special counsel is vitally important now, because the American people deserve to know the truth. And the people who violated the laws, including the foreign intelligence surveillance court when they violated both the FBI and DOJ to get that warrant on Carter Page need to be held accountable and it needs to be investigated. HANNITY: But this is the thing, you know, Gregg, we talk about Uranium One. William Campbell was -- we had a spy inside Putin's network, OK? JARRETT: Sure. HANNITY: We still allowed, even though we knew, he was reporting back bribery, kickbacks, money laundering and all sorts of other crimes to the FBI. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: They don't act. The deal actually goes through with Hillary's permission, money from people involved get sent back to the foundation. That's Russia. Russia got our uranium. OK. Nobody seems to care. JARRETT: And the Clinton Foundation got $145 million from Russian sources related to that. (CROSSTALK) CARTER: And Bill Clinton got half a million. HANNITY: -- dossier, you know, bought and paid for Russian lies, and it looks like James Comey is the only person on earth that believes that two hookers were urinating on Donald Trump's bed in the Ritz of Moscow. Steele doesn't believe it but Comey apparently does, based on some of his words today. So, you go through this. We've got loan application lies. We've got taxes that weren't paid. We've got campaign finance violations. Process crimes like lying to the FBI. But yet we have real Russian lies that the other candidate paid for. Nobody cares about that. Why? How is that possible? JARRETT: You know, if there is any collusion, it was Hillary Clinton who paid for Russian information, fed it to the FBI and the Department of Justice, to damage Donald Trump. And the FBI and DOJ ran with that, they used this phony dossier and they knew it was fabricated. And the new emails that we'll get when they're declassified will prove that. HANNITY: Well, how many laws are broken when you lie -- why do I think if I was stupid enough to lie to a judge -- JARRETT: Six, six felonies. HANNITY: -- you couldn't get me out of jail and you're a pretty lawyer. JARRETT: Yes, one of them is abuse of power, obstruction of justice, perjury, the list goes on and on. When you deceive a court and conceal evidence, you're lying to them. You're perpetrating a fraud. You know, the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court John Roberts is in charge of the FISA court. He should order a president judge to hold a show cause contempt hearing. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: -- on Trump, too, I guess. Doesn't he appoint all 11 FISA court judges? JARRETT: James Comey and Sally Yates and Andrew McCabe and Rod Rosenstein, before that court, to say, explain yourselves. HANNITY: But we knew part of this. What John's blockbuster this week showed, we knew the part that they never told the FISA court that, in fact, Hillary paid for this document. They said might have a political taint to it. That was as far as they went, in a footnote. JARRETT: In a footnote. HANNITY: Right. OK, so now we know that our intel community had real problems with the dossier. Turns out Christopher Steele in the end wouldn't stand by it. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: So, they go before a FISA court note once, not twice, not three, four times, Sara. CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: And they're using information that they didn't verify or corroborate. Not only that, that they suspected was false from the beginning. CARTER: Absolutely. HANNITY: Why? For Russian lies. CARTER: Absolutely. Another problem that the intel the community has, Sean, and you know this, based on stories we wrote over a year ago was the fact they were unmasking Americans. And when are they going to investigate who unmasked Lieutenant General Michael Flynn in those documents to "The Washington Post"? I mean, that's one of the most egregious violations in the intelligence community is when you unmask an American's name. And we all believe we know where that came from, and it came from leakers within the government that wanted to push this type of collusion story forward, a false narrative. There wasn't even just that. Remember over the 300 unmaskings that Samantha Powers was involved in and all the other unmaskings, and the weaponization of the intelligence community. These are egregious acts that basically violated the foundation of our Constitution and what we stand on, on principle. So, the only thing we can do -- HANNITY: One of the first articles you and John co-authored together had to do with surveillance, unmasking, the lack of minimization and the leaking of raw intelligence. That is a crime that happened to General Flynn. That's where the perjury trap. They had the whole conversation. And they bring him in, he didn't even know he was being really the interviewed, he thought he was being informed getting into his new position. So, he didn't remember it perfectly. The FBI didn't think he was lying but he's going bankrupt, he has to sell his house, they're threatening his kid, his family or somebody. And I'm wondering, what was the increase in surveillance? Wasn't it 300 percent in 2016? CARTER: Yes, it was, over a certain amount of years. Then the Obama administration, themselves, had to come forward to the courts and admit that they were doing this. And then they secretly tried to bury it. But let's remember this, when the FBI agents interviewed General Flynn, they went back and notified the FBI including Comey and Andrew McCabe, that Flynn did not lie at all. In fact, he gave them information that he didn't even know they knew. So, he was even more than forthcoming with them. So, the American public really has to think about what happened here, and what can happen to them if something like this happens again, because it shouldn't be allowed to happen again. And people should be held accountable. HANNITY: All right. I want to go to a legal question for you, Gregg. And, by the way, I have it right here, oh, Obama 2008 campaign fined $375,000 by the FEC for campaign violations reporting. OK, the one thing out of all of this, because they can't tie Donald Trump to the taxi medallion issue or the loan application issue or the fact that some people didn't pay all their taxes and were hiding income from the government, through various I guess banking methods. So, the media are saying, well, Michael Cohen paid this money to buy the silence of these women, therefore it's a campaign donation or violation. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: And because it was on his behalf, and remember Michael said he did it on his own originally, I think he changed his story. But on his own, not telling Donald Trump what he was doing and then was paid back. Is there any law that was broken there? JARRETT: No, first of all Donald Trump used his own money. And under the law, you're allowed an unlimited amount of your own money to your campaign. And second of all, in addition to that, you know, you're also able to skirt the campaign laws as a crime because you didn't knowingly break the law. And, you know, if Michael Cohen was filing faulty paperwork, that's what he did, not Donald Trump. HANNITY: OK. If the president -- so Michael changed the story. Originally, I think he said January of 2016, Trump Moscow, the tower, was - - they stopped, any discussions of it. It never happened in the end. But then he said, no, it was actually June. So, it went on longer than he originally said. Let's say he did continue. Let's say they built Trump Tower Moscow. Is there any illegality in any of that? JARRETT: No, it's perfectly legal. Look, anybody can develop real estate in Russia or anywhere else. And this guy, you know, the president of the United States was a real estate developer. He backed out of the deal. He had a letter of intent and then he said, sorry, I'm not going to exercise this. There's no evidence of any collusion with Russia that pertained to the election. There's no secret bank account. No secret conveyance, no rendezvous in Moscow, none of that. And yet the media and liberals claim collusion. HANNITY: Don't lie on your loan applications, pay your taxes, if Robert Mueller offers you a deal, don't trust him, because it didn't get Michael Cohen a whole lot, did it? And there's not equal justice under the law. That we learned. All right. JARRETT: Yes. You should never trust Robert Mueller. If you get a subpoena as I told somebody recently who got a subpoena, don't talk to Robert Mueller, go immediately to a lawyer. This is an individual who got a subpoena, who knows nothing about any of this. But that's what Mueller is doing. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Don't pass, don't collect 200 bucks, go straight to jail. CARTER: Right. HANNITY: That's what it seemed like. All right. Guys, good to see you, Gregg and Sara. All right. Joining us live with a report is our Washington FOX News chief intelligence correspondent, Catherine Herridge, she like us is, by the way, I read every bit of this today, and I was like -- ready to fall asleep. . CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, there was a lot to go through. And just to recap, Sean, for folks at home, we had two filings late today out of New York state, one from the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York and the other from the special counsel recommending significant jail time, about four years and $500,000 fine from Michael Cohen. There's one section that's getting a lot of attention tonight about Cohen and what he offered the special counsel on Russia, and it reads in part: Cohen provided the SCO, that's the acronym or the short form for the special counsel office, with useful information concerning certain discrete Russia related matters core to its investigation that he obtained by virtue of his regular contact with company executives during the campaign. Cohen provided relevant and useful information concerning his contacts with persons connected to the White House during the 2017-2018 time period. But the filings don't explain more about the nature of the contacts. It's also important to note that the U.S. attorney filing is very dramatic in the way that it's written. And it reads in part, while many Americans who desired a particular outcome to the election knocked on doors, told you at phone banks or found other legal ways to make their voices heard, Cohen sought to influence the election from the shadows. He did so by orchestrating secret and illegal payments to silence two women, who otherwise would have made public their alleged extramarital affairs with individual one, who was then candidate Trump. Here in Washington, we also had a filing late today on the president's former campaign chairman. One of the documents was filed under seal which means it is not public. The other was released publicly. But as you can see here, it's heavily redacted. It makes the case that the lying Manafort is guilty of in the plea deal actually relates to his contacts with the White House with the administration. It doesn't go to the issue of Russian coordination or collusion, Sean. HANNITY: What about -- there's one report I've not been able to confirm it, anything involving any people connected to, say, John Podesta? HERRIDGE: Right. My colleague John Roberts was able to get some information this evening that the section that is sealed in the Manafort filing here in Washington has to do with Tony Podesta. Tony Podesta was doing lobbying work with Paul Manafort, with Ukraine. I also understand from the reporting earlier this week of the "Associated Press", the special counsel has been looking at Greg Craig, a former White House counsel under the Obama administration, correct me if I'm wrong on that designation. But the bottom line is, it does appear the special counsel is looking at Democrats, and what's called a violation of FARA, which is the Foreign Agents Registration Act. People have been asking whether the special counsel was going to do apply the laws equally in this case? We at least see perhaps some indications that they're looking at Democrats. If I could just finally on James Comey, because this was a big story today, but kind of got buried in the avalanche of filings sort of late in the day. And Comey as you know was on Capitol Hill for this closed door transcribed interview under oath for six hours. This is an extraordinary situation where an FBI director is brought back to the Hill, put under oath for a transcribed interview because the lawmakers in effect on the Republican side really don't trust him. I mean, I don't know if there's an easier way to say it, but they didn't trust him enough. They wanted that transcribed interview. After the session, he got a number of questions which frankly felt to me like softball questions, and didn't really go to the issue of the Clinton emails, and the disparate handling of that case as opposed to other federal prosecutions and then also the Russia case. And let's just take my questions I got to him. Whether there was evidence that there was FISA abuse or the misuse of the surveillance process during the 2016 election. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMES COMEY, FORMER UNITED STATES FBI DIRECTOR: A total confidence that the FISA process was followed and that the entire case was handled in a thoughtful responsible why by DOJ and the FBI. I think the notion that FISA was abused here is nonsense. (END VIDEO CLIP) HERRIDGE: The question was about whether he had total confidence in the dossier and its use to secure that surveillance. As you know, Sean, by the time he briefed the incoming president in January of 2017, that dossier was still unverified at that time. So, that's three months after the initial application. The great thing about the deal that was brokered between Comey's lawyers and the lawmakers on Capitol Hill is that this transcript is going to be made public. And this will allow individuals to test the statements that they heard today from director Comey, that he answered the questions, that there was really nothing about Russia, only the e- mails and that there was no problem with the FISA or the surveillance warrant process. And it will also allow us to test the statements of Republicans that a government lawyer really ran a lot of interference and shut down critical lines of questioning, Sean. HANNITY: You know, so much here though. I mean, Chris, if you look, Catherine, remember Christopher Steele in that interrogatory, he wouldn't stand by his own dossier. So, if it was as the Nunes and as the Grassley Graham memo say, the bulk of information in the FISA applications came from that dossier and its own author doesn't stand by it, then one has to question if this e-mail chain does exist as John Solomon reported this week, that said directly that James Comey's name was on it. Did they verify it and when? What did they verify? What part of it was wrong? And if it was the bulk of information, was a fraud committed on the court? Also, one other question. Why didn't they tell the court, the FISA judges that in fact Hillary had bought and paid for that FISA warrant when it was just a mere footnote in the FISA application? So, I think-- (CROSSTALK) HERRIDGE: We're going to get a lot of good stuff, I think in that transcript. We'll see what questions were avoided and whether they were legitimate reasons-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I think we'll get it tomorrow, right? HERRIDGE: That was the plan. But I think there could be a little foot dragging. There was a Justice Department lawyer in there, a government lawyer. And there may be issues about redactions. And both sides would want to be clear that the transcript is accurate, right, before it goes out. HANNITY: Well, I think-- (CROSSTALK) HERRIDGE: But there's going to be a lot of good stuff. You can test what everybody said today and see if that really was an accurate portrayal of what went down inside that closed-door session. HANNITY: All right. Thanks for taking us inside. Catherine Herridge in Washington tonight. HERRIDGE: You're welcome. HANNITY: Thank you. Joining us now with reaction, former Clinton pollster and adviser, Mark Penn, California Congressman Darrell Issa, and Fox News contributor, Tammy Bruce. Good to see you all. Congressman Issa, you were in there. Hopefully we'll get the transcript tomorrow. I just went over the problems with these FISA applications. Is it true that the bulk of the information came from the dossier that Christopher Steele doesn't even stand by? REP. DARRELL ISSA, (R) CALIFORNIA: That's exactly correct. Not only came from the dossier, but as you know, Christopher Steele hasn't been in Russia in 20 years. So, even the people, the unknown people responsible for it could have easily, easily have in fact been agents of the Russian government, which would mean that Hillary Clinton is the one guilty of the so-called collusion. HANNITY: That's a great irony there. You have been very critical, Mark Penn, of this process from the get go here as you should be. I don't -- I believe if we have a duel justice system -- I'm looking at taxi medallions, I'm looking at loan applications. I'm looking at tax violations. I'm not seeing any collusion here at all. This has gone so afar. But I do see issues with Russia with Uranium One. And that is that we had a spy within that network. And we did have a lot of money kicked back in the end. Then I do see issues with this dossier. because it's full of Russian lies. And the FBI used it as the basis of the FISA applications. And in fact, they never verified it. What James Comey just said is false. Because we know they didn't verify it because Steele doesn't stand by it. MARK PENN, FORMER CLINTON POLLSTER AND ADVISER: Well, I typically urge all Americans to read the dossier. Because anyone who actually reads the dossier understands that it's a joke document. It's a document filled with nonsense that couldn't possibly be true that almost reads like an April fool's joke. And now that we spent, you know, I don't know, $30 million, you know, investigated almost everyone in the campaign, in the administration, there's still no evidence of anything that one would call collusion and certainly not related to the individual case. If anything, we're drifting more and more back to Monica Lewinsky days by talking about payments to Stormy Daniels and trying to take payments that are clearly not, you know, campaign related under the definitions that have been ruled by the SEC and try to turn those into crimes that you associate the president with. It's that whole creep of the special counsel to get the president all over again. HANNITY: And Tammy, it seems that Gregg Jarrett explained it very well in terms of the law. I watched the hysteria on TV. And they're saying campaign finance violations. Well, I've campaign violations from '96 over here, and from 2008 over here, and from Bob Dole over here, and from Al Gore over here. And the biggest fine paid by Obama. My question to you, is as you look at where this has now gone, I mean, I feel bad for the men involved in the things that happened, but I feel that they're victims of what is selective prosecution and a political witch hunt that they got caught up and by no other reason that they like Donald Trump. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, look, this is why we're nervous when there's more regulations and more laws because we pretty much wake up in the morning as Americans and we're breaking some kind of a law. But then it's selective about how it gets applied. But it's always kind of hovering over you, this entire dynamic ranging from the dossier to what Catherine Herridge described about their writing in the filing that they just did. It's fan fiction. And we're talking about criminal justice reform on one hand from the Trump administration, of course, and the American people see this fraud, this hoax being unleashed upon people in Washington. But we experience it also at the local level in our daily lives, whether it's the disenfranchised, or people of color. This is a chilling event. Americans recognize it, they do not like it and it's up to the president to make sure this dynamic remains clear to the American people-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, the president has a lot-- BRUCE: -- about what's happening to them. HANNITY: He can still release the applications, the gang of eight information and the 302s and the e-mail chain. Do you believe -- last question, Darrell Issa. We just had comments from James Comey. Do you believe what he said about the FISA warrants was accurate or did he lie? ISSA: Well, he certainly is inaccurate. The idea that these things were anything other than falsely granted based on deceiving a federal judge is more laughable than what Mark said about the dossier itself. Ultimately, this dossier is what got them into a business of looking for a crime that didn't happen. HANNITY: Unbelievable. BRUCE: Right. HANNITY: All right. Thank you all. I appreciate it. When we come back, Congressman Mark Meadows revealed today -- well, what did he reveal that should have the Clintons very worried tonight? Doug Schoen, Larry Elder will examine that as this busy news night continues. We're glad you're with us. HANNITY: All right. The left of America loves to focus on the Mueller probe and phony Russian collusions. The Clintons they always seem to get a pass, don't they? Buy maybe that's finally changing. Congressman Mark Meadows confirms that the Clinton Foundation whistleblowers have turned over what is hundreds and hundreds of documents that may shed a light on what is a criminal pay- for-play scheme as John Solomon first reported here last night. Federal authorities received whistleblower evidence in 2017, 6,000 pages alleging Clinton Foundation wrongdoing. Here now with reaction, former Clinton pollster, Doug Schoen, radio talk show host, Larry Elder is with us. Your friends with the Clintons at one point, Doug Schoen. (CROSSTALK) DOUG SCHOEN, FORMER CLINTON POLLSTER: True. I do. HANNITY: Listen, you have to give it to them. They seem to skate every single time. SCHOEN: Well, and my position is, if you're going to finish as I think we should the Mueller investigation, why wouldn't we want balanced and to look at the issues that have been now credibly raised? I mean, I'm not passing judgment on anything, Sean. But fair is fair. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So, you agree Uranium One is troublesome, Uranium One is troublesome, the phony Clinton bought and paid for dossier that Christopher Steele doesn't stand by which became the basis for FISA warrant applications? Those bother you? SCHOEN: Yes, they do. I mean, look, I've read the dossier. That it was-- HANNITY: Ridiculous. SCHOEN: -- put together by the Clinton campaign, paying millions of dollars for it and used it as a basic for FISA warrants is a troubling thing to me that I think-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Troubling? SCHOEN: Well, it is. Yes. I want-- HANNITY: The guy that wrote it doesn't stand by it. Our FBI -- we now learned this week in John Solomon's investigative report, Larry Elder, not only that, our own intelligence community had questions but they still used it as the basis and bulk of information to obtain a warrant to spy on a Trump campaign associate. Now, those are Russian paid for lies. I thought we were worried about Russian interference and take it a step further, those lies were disseminated to the American people to cause them to vote against Donald Trump. LARRY ELDER, SYNDICATED RADIO SHOW HOST: Well, that's right. And it's becoming increasingly obvious, isn't it, Sean, that this whole investigation started with this bogus dossier. And I'd like to point out, people are defending the Mueller probe by arguing. Well, he's gotten eight or nine convictions so far. Well, if the definition of a good special counsel probe is ow many convictions you get, then the Clinton Whitewater probe was a home run. A grand slam. They got 14 convictions including then then-sitting governor of Arkansas. And those convictions, Sean they had to do with the underlying purpose of the investigation, which was an alleged crooked real estate deal. These convictions that Mueller have gotten so far has nothing whatever to do with collusion or conspiracy or coordination by Donald Trump. So, it's a whole thing has been weaponized against President Trump-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me ask you a legal question. People forget you're a lawyer. I do not forget my friends that are lawyers. I might need them one day. All right. But this is important. Gregg Jarrett talked about this. ELDER: Yes. HANNITY: So, I watched some of the media tonight. They're claiming campaign finance violations. Number one, Gregg Jarrett rightly points out it would be civil in nature. Number two, Michael Cohen's original story was that he did this without the knowledge of Donald Trump on his own with his own money acting in a way he thought as his own personal attorney that his client would want him to act. Donald Trump did pay him back the money and so on and so forth. But as Gregg pointed out, it's civil, a. B, the president has the ability to spend any -- there's no limit to the amount of money he could spend as a candidate running for that office. How is that a crime? SCHOEN: Yes. I-- ELDER: Well, that's what I-- SCHOEN: Right. ELDER: I agree with his analysis. Look, it's not a crime. What did Bill Clinton say? Everybody lies about sex? The idea that Donald Trump wouldn't want people to know about his relationships is no surprise. Is it a crime? NO, it is not a crime. HANNITY: Last word, Doug Schoen. SCHOEN: What I would say is, if anything happened to Donald Trump after the Access Hollywood tape came out, his vote went up. So, figure that into the equation. HANNITY: I don't know how to interpret that, Doug Schoen. I'm not even going there. All right. Good to see you both. SCHOEN: Thank you. HANNITY: When we come back, we're going to show you how the destroy Trump media, their insane reaction to today's court filings. Here's the hint. They were giddy. Putting their liberal spin on all of it. Sean Spicer and Joe Concha will analyze a very corrupt media. An abusively biased one. That's our job. We'll keep them honest next. HANNITY: All right. So, the media predictably absolutely giddy about the Mueller nonsense memos frankly. Gleefully echoing the phony, the false talking point that Trump committed felonies. He didn't. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In a lot of ways, it cannot be underscored that these memos really aren't about Cohen. I mean, they're about Cohen but do they really point to the president in a way we haven't seen before? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sure. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is the first time that federal prosecutors are accusing the president of the United States of having directed a crime. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm willing to bet that there is good evidence that Trump had the requisite intent-- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- to commit this crime as well. REP. TED LIEU, (D) CALIFORNIA: Michael Cohen's two campaign finance felonies were directed by a person named as individual one. That person is Donald Trump. That means that Donald Trump also committed two felonies. JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST: The Department of Justice today in the most explicit terms said the president of the United States committed two felonies. Just said it right. Came out and said it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Joining us now, the Hill's media reporter, Joe Concha, and American First Action senior adviser, Sean Spicer. You know, what they're forgetting is Michael for a long time said that he did it without anybody's knowledge, Sean. And they did it on his own with an entity he created and didn't tell the president and only later the president found out and paid the money back, which by the way the president as Gregg Jarrett and Larry Elder have analyzed tonight would be perfectly able to do with his own funds which is that ultimately he did pay him back. So, what they're saying here is they want to believe one version of Michael Cohen that fits their narrative but not remind people the other narrative of Michael Cohen. Which one do you believe? SEAN SPICER, SENIOR ADVISOR, AMERICAN FIRST ACTION: Well, not only that, but if you read the complaint, I mean, it's ridiculous. They talk about Michael Cohen's taxi medallion, failure to pay taxes, a bunch of things that have nothing to do with Russia and nothing to do with collusion or nothing to do with this campaign. And then you see some of these reporters say in the clips that you just showed that the Department of Justice said the following. It said nothing of the sort. And yet, to your point in your opening monologue, these reporters are so fixed on going after this president, they will literally make stuff up. It's amazes me for as much as they despise the term fake news, the clips that you just showed, showed the length to which they will go to make things up and attack and undermine this president. HANNITY: You know, Joe, I mean, in this, they go through a litany of crimes. They say that Michael Cohen should have substantial jail time. Talked about a side of Michael Cohen that his friends did not know about. Then they get to this part. They take the version that is most recent about well, at the behest of Donald Trump, that he did these things, that the president was asking him to commit crimes, which is very different from what he originally claimed. Who should they believe? JOE CONCHA, REPORTER, THE HILL MEDIA: Well, we don't know, right? Ultimately, Sean, the theme here from the very beginning has been the question of did Donald Trump and campaign associates collude with Russian officials to change the outcome of the 2016 election. And if you don't connect that dot in the court of public opinion, nobody cares about this other stuff. And I have precedent on this. We all have it. It's just a matter of remembering it. Remember, during the 90s, Bill Clinton was not being investigated for his affair with Monica Lewinsky. It just kind of creeped in that direction. And then when he committed perjury about that affair and then he was impeached over it and obviously wasn't removed from office-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And that was about -- just to clear, that was about the Paula Jones lawsuit. CONCHA: What he was impeached -- yes. Right. Exactly. So, it ends up being another thing all together. And when that happened, Bill Clinton's approval shot up to 73 percent in Gallup. In other words, if Democrats overreach here and the media overreaches here on things that aren't collusion, no one is going to care. It's irrelevant. I understand there are crimes, but unless it's the big thing that this thing is been based on from the very beginning-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But they -- it used to think-- CONCHA: -- it, doesn't matter. HANNITY: It is a different story, Sean Spicer. And then they list a litany of crimes. And I feel sorry for Michael and Paul Manafort. You know, these are human beings with families and lives here. And they want to believe the side that fits their narrative, not the fact that, they say he did all these horrible things but I'm going to believe this one thing that he said here, not that contradicts what he previously had said. SPICER: Right. I mean, there's two things that I think are important here. Number one, when you read both of the documents that the DOJ has put out tonight both with respect to Manafort and with respect to Cohen, the underlying principle in both is that they lie. They didn't tell the truth. That's what they got busted for. And you made the point earlier in the show, don't lie, don't cheat on your taxes and file the forms correctly. HANNITY: Yes. And don't lie on-- (CROSSTALK) SPICER: That's what this is about. They didn't-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I got to go-- SPICER: And that's what they're getting butted for. This has nothing to do with the president. HANNITY: All right. Quick break. More at this busy news night continues. HANNITY: All right. There are lessons to learn here. Certainly, don't lie on loan applications, and be very careful when you pay your taxes, and make sure you pay all your taxes and follow the rules and laws, et cetera. But the other thing to learn here is we have duel justice systems in America. Load-Date: December 8, 2018 End of Document Mueller Filings: Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort Both Lied Under Oath; No Mention of Russian Collusion on the Mueller Filings; Former FBI Director James Comey Testifies on Before Congress; ABC Rescinds Invitation to Kevin Hart to Host Academy Awards; Disney Song Criticized; New Bill in Colorado Would Regulate Car Delivery of Marijuana Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST December 7, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 9339 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Byron York, Raymond Arroyo, Guests: Joe diGenova, David Katz, Corey Lewandowski, Jonathan Singer, Luke Niforatos Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: And make sure you pay all your taxes and follow the rules and laws, et cetera. But the other thing to learn here is we have dual justice systems in America. Uranium One, the phoney Russian dossier, that is the story of tonight. Thanks for being with us. Have a great weekend. Laura is next. INGRAHAM: I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington tonight. This was one again, of the busiest Fridays in recent memory, and we will methodically breakdown everything you need to know about the Mueller sentencing memos. All the Cohen, Manafort and all the Comey news in just moments. But we will also plan on getting into some other stories later tonight. Hollywood A-list Kevin Hart withdraws from hosting the Oscars over gay remarks that he made a decade ago. So is the PC culture killing entertainment and comedy? Raymond Arroyo will be here and show us more of the, well, more repulsive toys of the season in "Friday Follies." Everyone needs a little laugh tonight. And plus, how weed is taking over every part of America. We begin in talking about the big push for legalized medical marijuana and how that somehow morphed into pot being delivered right to your front door on command. And later in the show, I'm going to take on the lefty lawmaker pushing for this new delivery service. But first, this is a Fox News Alert. All right, tonight, Bob Mueller's special counsel team and the southern district of New York have delivered three court filings involving that we are going to tell you everything you need to know tonight about all of these filings shedding light on the Mueller case and the sort of risk this could pose to the president. There is so much hyperbolic reporting surrounding these release I wanted to go straight to our panel. Let's get right to it. Former U.S. attorney Joe diGenova, David Katz, former assistant U.S. attorney and Byron York, chief political correspondent for the "Washington Examiner," Fox News contributor and President Trump's 2016 campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, a man who overlapped with Paul Manafort on Trump's team. Joe diGenova, to watch the reaction on the other networks tonight, you might as well have thought that Donald Trump just came out in like a hammer and sickle t-shirt and said look, I'm actually a Russian operative myself. But what did we actually discover? Let's start with the Cohen filing. Again, the recommendation for his sentencing which is coming up next week. JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: What we learned was that there is no evidence again of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign and certainly nothing with the president personally. We learned that Michael Cohen is a kind of a rather unscrupulous individual who sought to enrich himself through the campaign and did some pretty sleazy deals after the campaign. But in fact there is no suggestion whatsoever that the president did anything wrong or committed any crimes or certainly had any contact with Russians. A lot of hype, lot of sound, lot of noise, lot of drama but no substance in terms of the president of the United States. INGRAHAM: Now, someone jumped on this part of the special counsel's filing on Michael Cohen without including the last part. We're going to just read it to the end and you can make your own conclusion as to why some media organizations are leaving it off. "The defendant also provided information about attempts by other Russian nationals to reach the campaign. For example, in or around November 2015, Cohen received the contact information for and spoke with a Russian national who claimed to be a trusted person in the Russian Federation who could offer the campaign political synergy and a synergy on government level. Cohen however did not follow up on this invitation." Byron York, that's just one of the small little, you know, pieces of information about Russia that is being seized upon by people like, I think Maggie Haberman and others. Russia is here. Russia is here. Nothing happened with that. BYRON YORK, WASHINGTON EXAMINER: Nothing happened with that and it also didn't happen with several other contacts or alleged contacts between Russians and members of the campaign. We don't know who this Russian national was. We don't know what was going on. Clearly Michael Cohen wasn't very interested. He was still interested on Trump Tower Moscow I think. I will tell you though, I think what's going to come out of what has happened today is a pivot from talking about Russia to talking about campaign finance violations. I think that's in the Michael Cohen stuff and that's where he (inaudible). INGRAHAM: We're going to get -- I want to get ahead of ourselves. David, I want to go to you because this is the kind of hyperbolic over-the-top commentary that we heard just about that one Russian contact that was never followed up on. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: Synergy is -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, synergy sounds a little collusion, UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's a Harvard Business School term for collusion. COOPER: Right. It's the Hollywood term for collusion. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But this goes back to why this is, I mean, this is politically very damaging for the president. I think what -- COOPER: We knew this actually could like stick. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think this could stick, yes. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: David, collusion, now "The New York Times" is coming up with new adjectives. Love it. DAVID KATZ, FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY: Well, there is something called conspiracy and of course the inquiry is always whether Cohen or Trump transitional officials were in league with Russian operatives. Now that has to be proven yet, but I think -- INGRAHAM: No, David, hold on a second. If that call happened and we assume it did it, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, you don't think Russia or China or Saudi Arabia is trying to get into contact with all these campaign officials, you bet they are. Always trying to reach out and make contact. If the call was made in 2015 November, there is no crime there. What's the crime? KATZ: Well, there is a law which prohibits foreign context and all of these campaigns are very well aware of what the ramifications are. INGRAHAM: What was that? What law are you talking about? KATZ: That a presidential candidate and also -- so presidents or candidate cannot accept help from foreign governments. And so if there was help from a foreign government, they have to be proven. INGRAHAM: There was no help with a foreign government. There was an offer by an individual who claimed that he was trusted who was -- and basically swatted away by Michael Cohen. Big deal. KATZ: Well, supposedly Cohn continued -- INGRAHAM: Cohen, not Cohn. Gary Cohn is a different person. KATZ: Supposedly Michael Cohen continued with those negotiations with all in the Trump Tower -- INGRAHAM: No, it's a different person. It was a different person\ KATZ: -- and there is going to be all of this inquiry into the Trump Tower. That's what -- they're interested in with Michael Cohen and when Michael Cohen gets sentenced in a week, even if it is three or four years, there is going to be a Rule 35 down the road, Laura, you know that, where he will get another chance to help. And of course that's very troubling -- INGRAHAM: He was described as not a cooperating witness. The southern district of New York basically kicked him to the curb. The special counsel's office said he was more helpful but that's not on what you are talking about, that's not the part you are talking about. I want to go to Corey on this. Corey, I've heard this time and again, collusion, collusion, collusion. They are trying to affect the election. I have no doubt that there are a lot of countries that were trying to effect our election. No doubt in my mind and I'd love to know more about what China was trying to do to affect our election. But how is this, and I keep going back to the same thing, how is this Russian collusion? COREY LEWANDOWSKI, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Laura, what people forget is Barack Obama was the president of the United States. His intelligence community was tasked with making sure that no outside entity interfered with the outcome of our election. No one talked about -- Donald Trump was a private citizen. He had nothing to do with the integrity of the ballot process or the integrity of how the election was going to be administered. That all fell under the Obama administration, the Comeys, the Clappers, the Brennans of the world. There was no collusion. There was no cooperation. There was no coordination between anybody on the Trump campaign and Russia. It didn't happen. INGRAHAM: The word conspiracy was thrown all around. In major American newspapers tonight, the word conspiracy is used over and over and over again. Conspiracy with the Russians. Conspiracy with the Russians. LEWANDOWSKI: Michael Cohen had nothing to do with the campaign. He wasn't a campaign employee. He didn't have campaign e-mail address. He wasn't compensated by the campaign. He was a Trump organization employee of which literally he was 20 floors apart from where the campaign was. He had no operational authority or whatsoever for the campaign. He couldn't make decisions on behalf of the campaign. YORK: I think we should note that Mueller has not charged anybody. Not Cohen, not Manafort, not Flynn, not Papadopoulos, not Gates. Nobody has been charged with taking part in a criminal conspiracy to influence the 2016 election. INGRAHAM: "The Washington Examiner," Byron, your newspaper, Eddie Scarry's piece tonight, " Michael Cohen lied about dealing with Russia, but Trump didn't." I think we have an interesting full screen and I want to read this for diGenova. "There is a simmering media narrative that this would prove Trump had also lied about his dealings, given his repeated claims throughout the campaign and into his presidency that he had no deals with Russia. But even though liberal Slate publication in late November said: In the strictest sense, none of these denials appear to represent a lie as far as we know because of Trump's adherence to present tense verbs. I have no dealings with Russia. I don't do deals. I have no loans with Russia. But these statements serve to mislead people about Trump's attempted deal with Russia and Cohen's past contact with the Russian government. Maybe there is more to learn in the special counsel's investigation and maybe there's not. But if Trump's ties to Russia amount to a business deal that fell flat, and which he was not forthcoming about, liberals and Trump opponents should brace themselves for another round of those pangs of disappointment." I thought it was a really good piece, Joe. Again, the Russian collusion or the word conspiracy -- when I see the word conspiracy out there today, the journalists who know better, it's disgusting. Absolutely disgusting because they either don't know the law or they are purposely ignoring it. DIGENOVA: Well, I think it's very important to underscore what Byron just said. Not a single charge in any of the crimes that Mueller has brought involve a conspiracy by anybody in the Trump campaign or Trump himself, to deal with Russians, Russian governmental officials, Russian business people, Russian political people, Russian comedians, Russian grocery store keepers, nothing involving a criminal conspiracy. In fact, all of the illusions to Michael Cohen's attempts or attempts to get at Michael Cohen by Russians are simply described as things that happen. They are not described as parts of a crime. So the notion that there was some sort of conspiracy described in today's multiple pleadings is false reporting of the worst kind. It is hopeful reporting. It is anticipatory reporting, but it is not actual reporting. INGRAHAM: All right, Alan Dershowitz has weighed in tonight as well. He was on with Tucker earlier. David, I want you to react to this. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALAN DERSHOWITZ, PROFESSOR, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL: The report well, set out a circumstantial case based on the lying that is taking place, a circumstantial case for arguably political sins. But I don't see any crimes. Collusion itself is not a crime, using information given by Russia to WikiLeaks would not be a crime unless the campaign participated with WikiLeaks in the hacking itself and there is no evidence to support that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: David, where is the crime, the Russia crime? KATZ: Well, that was one of the things that Mueller was trying to find out from Manafort. I think one of the reasons why Mueller says Manafort is in breach is because he thought there were two things that Manafort knew about and wasn't telling the truth about consistent with Mueller's other evidence. One of them was whether Manafort had these contacts with WikiLeaks, with Trump intermediaries or with Russian intermediaries. That was the allegation. The other one is the Trump Tower meeting in New York City, the one in 2016 with Kushner and Donald Trump, Jr. That's what Mueller thinks Manafort knows more about than Manafort is telling. That's why he says he is in breach, Laura. INGRAHAM: Right. I understand that, but Rudy Giuliani came out -- DIGENOVA: But that's not in any of the pleadings. But that is not in any of the pleadings. INGRAHAM: That's not in the pleadings and -- DIGENOVA: What David just said is not anywhere in anything that was pleaded today. KATZ: Well, you can say that it's speculation but you wonder why is Mueller saying that there is a breach, there is a long under seal pleading that was filed today. There is also a lot of redacted pleadings that were filed today regarding Manafort. So, you wonder what is Mueller saying the breach is all about. Stay tuned, but that's what I think you're going to hear in court. YORK: It does appear that Mueller is still angry at Manafort for all the lies he told about his business dealings in Ukraine. INGRAHAM: Going back to 2009. YORK: This whole Constantine Kaliomnik in 2004 and 2006, this whole Constantine Kalimnik stuff. It had to do with making all that money over there and not reporting it for U.S. taxation. INGRAHAM: Twelve million bucks and Kalimnik was a one-time Russian intel guy, but when you say that there is no such thing as a one-time. Once you're in, you're always in. So, again, the "New York Times" as well, and then there was Manafort not telling the truth about this Ukrainian-Russian guy -- Russian-Ukrainian guy. OK, it has nothing to do with Donald Trump. Nothing to do with collusion, nothing to do with Donald Trump, and maybe Paul Manafort to go to prison for a long time But this has zero to do with Russia trying to interfere with this election, working with Donald Trump to do it. Zero. LEWANDOWSKI: Laura, Paul's crimes that he's (inaudible) and convicted of and plead guilty to preceded his tenure at the Trump campaign by a decade and what we have seen now is that the Mueller investigators are taking those crimes and sending them -- INGRAHAM: (Inaudible) them into this current narrative. LEWANDOWSKI: -- to the southern district of New York for prosecution because they have no jurisdiction here. The Mueller team is not here to look at crimes that were committed 10 years prior the Trump campaign. INGRAHAM: But why did Trump -- I got a question. Why did Trump hire Manafort? LEWANDOWSKI: It's a great question. INGRAHAM: Why the heck did he try to hire Manafort? LEWANDOWSKI: Because at the time -- INGRAHAM: He was the gold standard in the `80s. LEWANDOWSKI: No, no, he was the delegate hunter. He was still doing things on the fax machine which is the way to do it in the 1980s and, you have to remember, when Paul Manafort came to the campaign -- INGRAHAM: I remember. LEWANDOWSKI: -- it's when Ted Cruz was winning delegates even though he was losing states and they were concerned about a floor fight. And Paul was the last guy -- INGRAHAM: And you weren't enough to handle it. LEWANDOWSKI: That's what they say. That's what they say. I didn't believe it then and I don't believe it now. INGRAHAM: Yes, I was like, yes, I didn't get to Manafort. This is like a total time warp going back (inaudible) Byron in the `80s like Manafort Stone and Atwater Manafort -- YORK: The `70s. INGRAHAM: The `70s, going back a long way. LEWANDOWSKI: Manafort (inaudible) landed back together so who knows. INGRAHAM: Yes, I know. OK, let's -- Joe, I want to touch on this issue of the campaign finance issue because I think that's the toughest here for the president and clearly the one that's going to give him the most angina overnight because, Michael Cohen, and it's laid out in the pleading today. Michael Cohen does say or the prosecutor say as he confessed to in August, allegedly that Trump directed the payments to the "National Enquirer" and to Stormy Daniels, $150,000 and $130,000 respectively with the coordination and direction of individual number one. That's what the pleading says. You kind of see it there. Now, that's a violation of the campaign finance laws. That's the allegation and you look at the statute, you can't use a company to make donations to a campaign. They slipped it through that LLC, can't do it. What are your thoughts on that tonight? DIGENOVA: Well, according to the former chairman of the Federal Election Commission, that was not a violation of the federal campaign finance laws. Now, the use of a corporation would be, but you would have to prove that Donald Trump knew that the corporation was being used to do it. It was not illegal for Donald Trump to allow his personal funds to be used to pay hush money. Paying hush money is not illegal. The question is was it done to further the campaign or was it done to prevent personal embarrassment and to keep it quiet. That is actually makes it impossible to prove a crime because either one of those scenarios is possible and therefore a jury would have to guess at that. Not only that, there is no evidence that the president of the United States ordered that it be paid through a corporation, which is what would make it illegal. The payment itself would be perfectly proper. So, it is absolutely no way in which the president had any exposure. INGRAHAM: What if it's disclosed. You are saying it's proper even though it's not disclosed? So Joe, you are saying it's proper, even if it's not disclosed. If it's meant, and this is what Cohen plead to I believe, correct me if I'm wrong. That it was meant to influence the election. DIGENOVA: It only has to be disclosed if it is a personal campaign contribution by the president. If it is paid to keep the women silent, it is not -- because he doesn't want to embarrass his family. That is not a campaign fund. INGRAHAM: Well that's where -- yes, it's a POV of the Trump team versus what Cohen is trying to say to try to get less jail time. I mean, that's -- look, he wants to get less jail time so he's got to do something. He's got to (inaudible) some of the blame over to Trump because he's got to parry down the jail time there. But David, this is what some of the commentators today were concluding on the campaign finance aspect. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The big news tonight is not about Michael Cohen, it's not about Paul Manafort, it's about one person, Donald Trump. For the first time, you have federal prosecutors essentially saying that Donald Trump committed a felony. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But this is the first time that federal prosecutors are accusing the president of the United States of having directed a crime. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What they say is Michael Cohen's two campaign finance felonies were directed by a person named as individual one. That person is Donald Trump. That means that Donald Trump also committed two felonies. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: David, two felonies? Is that with the statute says? KATZ: Well, I think that Joe has a pretty thin read for the president to hang his hat on. I think if there really was an intention and if that money was paid, and if anything that Michael Cohen says ends up being true, that's a huge problem. And there is also as you I think suggested, there is a failure to disclose. There is a reporting violation. Now, Senator Edwards was prosecuted. He was acquitted, but he was prosecuted by the Obama Justice Department, as you recall, for you could argue personal. There were two different instances. Yes, he was found not guilty but certainly the president's dream is not to go to a jury trial and be found not guilty. He wouldn't want to head this off long before that and I don't think that argument really works. YORK: That's why we're all going to be looking at that Edwards' case because the Justice Department in that case really kind of leaned forward on that too far. And if the president can make the argument that this was a payment to avoid personal embarrassment, and frankly Donald Trump could say, I've been paying off women for years, long before I ever started running for president. This actually makes a lot of sense. INGRAHAM: Well this is what "The New York Times" leads with in their main coverage of this today. Prosecutors say Trump directed illegal payments during campaign. So, involving two women, McDougall and Stormy Daniels, $150,000 and $130,000. One payment made to buy the rights to Karen McDougall's story from American Media and the other a direct payment. You know what I could go back to and this is just a -- this question is like, you know, it's somewhat related here but, why hire Michael Cohen? I mean, again, I don't know Michael Cohen. I've talked to him like once or twice, but why is Michael Cohen working at all for Donald Trump? I mean, why is he in a position of any authority? I don't get that. KATZ: He was Trump's fix-it guy for over 10 years, Laura. That's the reality. LEWANDOWSKI: Well, he didn't do a very good job fixing things. He didn't do -- and look, to Byron's point, if there is a pattern here of the Trump organization making payments to entities or individuals over the last 10 or 20 or 30 years and no one knows that, then this is nothing. And this is Michael Cohen trying to plead out to something that he has either has a history of doing in the past or we know has transpired in the past, and we'll find out if that's case, but this is Michael trying to save himself because it looks like he's going to go to jail for (inaudible) to four years. INGRAHAM: Let me just read something, Byron. I'll get you in a second. This is in the southern district's filing today and it just sums up the kind of guy Michael Cohen is, and like we are in Washington and there are a lot of sleazy people in D.C., OK, but this is kind of amazing. "Cohen, an attorney and a businessman, committed four distinct federal crimes over a period of several years. He was motivated to do so by personal greed and repeatedly used his power and influence for deceptive ends. The crimes committed by Cohen were more serious than his submission allows and were marked by a pattern of deception that permeated his professional life and was evidently hidden from the friends and family members who wrote on his behalf." Now, this is all going to be one sided because it's all coming from the prosecutor and I'm and old defense attorney so I'm very weary of you prosecutors. But it's -- you got to rely on him to make the case against the president. And Joe diGenova, you rely on a snake like Michael Cohen. It happens. It happens in mob cases. You rely on criminals to give up the goods, you know, on John Gotti. DIGENOVA: Well, first of all, they are not going to be making a case against the president of the United States no matter what their evidence is because the Justice Department has ruled that you cannot indict a sitting president. They ruled twice on that, once in a Democratic administration under Bill Clinton and once in the Nixon administration. But it's very important to realize what the prosecutor said in those pleadings. They said that Michael Cohen violated the law and that he was, according to them, was instructed by number one, the candidate, to make the payments. They didn't say that the candidate told him to make illegal payments. They were very careful not to say that the candidate instructed him to violate the law. It's a very, very important part of the pleading. They have not alleged that the president of United States violated the law. They have alleged that Michael Cohen did. INGRAHAM: Yes, well again, I think the president not being charged is different from what the Democrats are hoping for perhaps, is for the president to be dealt with in the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate. Let's watch. DIGENOVA: And they can do that. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where is this going to go? It's going to go it seems to me with the president being indicted or at least up to that point and it's going to go to Congress taking on a very serious and very, very appropriate investigation and you might call that the opening days of an impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think what this totality of today's filings show that the House is going to have little choice the way this is going other than to start impeachment proceedings. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Byron. YORK: I think that a lot of Democrats will tell you that as of today they now already have enough to go forward with that. When Michael Cohen pleaded, he said he had made these playoffs at the president's direction, but that was just Michael Cohen saying that. Now, they're going to say you have federal prosecutors saying the president committed two felonies -- INGRAHAM: The weight of the Justice Department. YORK: There you go. And that is going to be enough. And so I think there is going to be a serious number of Democrats -- they are still a month away from being sworn in -- a serious number of Democrats who say the case has already been made. INGRAHAM: Corey. LEWANDOWSKI: Michael has no credibility. We are now seeing that he made $4 million from corporations who wanted access to Donald Trump and said Michael didn't deliver anything. You know, he is a serial liar. We know he lied to Congress. He's now pled guilty to that crime. He was lying to the investigators and he wanted to save himself. So if the Democrats think they're going to move on impeachment on the president of the United States on the word of Michael Cohen, they will see the repercussions of that at the ballot box in 2020. KATZ: You know, Michael Cohen is the lawyer that Trump chose for 10 years to represent him, just as Manafort was the campaign chairman that he chose. INGRAHAM: Really two bad choices. KATZ: I mean, this is a lot of Trump's own making and I think that we have to be -- INGRAHAM: That doesn't mean he's committed a crime. Having bad judgment and whom you hire, we've all hired people we regret, believe me but -- KATZ: But it would say a lot of things, Laura, and they are going to be corroborated. This didn't get this far without them having corroboration records, tapes. One of the people we haven't heard about is the "National Enquirer." If you believe that Mueller is smart enough -- this is not his first rodeo -- to put in clues and not to put in clues. How about the things that aren't in there? How about the fact that there's no discussion of this fellow at the "National Enquirer?" INGRAHAM: What about him? David Peck (ph), what about him? KATZ: Probably because he is working with the investigators. And there are other people who would appear to have been left out or minimized or kept in the redacted or under sealed portions who are probably working and providing a lot of corroboration to the investigation. So I think we have to be realistic. INGRAHAM: Well, I got to say, I'm not saying that -- I hear what you are saying but I'm not seeing it so far. I'm really not. And Joe diGenoiva, we could sit here all night and speculate about this. DIGENOVA: Let me tell you something. The one person who is worrying tonight is Tony Podesta and the other person is Gregory Craig because that's where the cooperation has been and they are finally looking at a Democrat and it is Tony Podesta's failure to file as a foreign agent and Gregory Craig's failure to file as a foreign agent. That's what they are looking at. That's what much of this is about the unsealed portions. INGRAHAM: Yes. John Roberts has already -- John Roberts, Joe, you know, our own John Roberts has reported that. That in fact that was part of what was in those redacted portions referencing those two. DIGENOVA: Right. Right. INGRAHAM: Jonathan Turley spoke out earlier today about what the special counsel now is going to be trying to do anew with Michael Cohen. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JONATHAN TURLEY, LAW PROFESSOR, GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY: It's clear with Cohen that this is not the end for Cohen. They are dangling out what is called a 5k1.1 letter, which is basically a cooperation letter. And they come back repeatedly and say, you don't have that letter. And so what they're doing is essentially turning this into a canned hunt. They're going to hit him with a sentence. The only way he's out of that cage is if he tells them what they want to hear. But that actually is concerning to me because here's a guy who's obviously cooperating fully. They say he is credible. So, what else did they want him to say? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: David, I got to get on this because this is why people -- sorry -- really dislike certain prosecutors. He has given information. He's been interviewed seven times by the special counsel I think at least, and did you hear what he said there? They were trying to get him -- what they want him to say. Paul Manafort has been sitting in solitary confinement. The most hardened criminals in the United States are not in solitary confinement. They put that man in solitary confinement, he is only out two hours per day because he hasn't given them what they want him to say about Trump. I find that to be appalling. And everyone watching the show right now should realize, U.S. prosecutors do this every day to people. They do it -- not the solitary confinement as much, but they turn the screws on individuals. A lot of people who don't have as much money as these individuals to fight it, but they do this every day because people are petrified they don't want to spend the rest of their life rotting in jail. And it's a tool and it's a tactic, and sometimes it's for good, I understand, but in this case, especially with this Manafort deal, I find it repulsive what they've done with him. KATZ: Well, I'm a federal criminal defense attorney right now and I think one of the great things for your viewers that this Trump incident, whatever you want to call it, is two years of Trump, have shown the nation, is that our federal criminal laws are in great need -- INGRAHAM: It's a nightmare. KATZ: -- are in great need of reform. And this idea that they are going to squeeze Michael Cohen, maybe he'll tell them the truth. But the fear is maybe he won't and they are obviously going to give him another shot after his sentencing to three or four years. They're going to get what they call a Rule 35, which is a way that the federal prosecutors say to a judge, you know what, he's cooperated with us since his sentencing, now you should give him a big redaction. And what an impeachment of a witness that now he is facing three or four years, probably getting a stay of surrender during that, and now he grass (ph) out, provide some information and how do we judge the credibility of that as probably not credible. He better have corroboration -- INGRAHAM: I'm going to say again, and very interesting, where is the Russian collusion? YORK: The thing to remember about Cohen and Manafort are special cases because they are the ones who committed big personal crimes in their businesses. They were both basically convicted -- INGRAHAM: These are financial crimes. YORK: -- of evading taxes and in large sums. That's what they're going to get, the big jail time for. INGRAHAM: They always get the mob for tax evasion. They get them for tax evasion, wire fraud, a 1001 statements, et cetera. YORK: A false statement we have, one guy who's gotten 30 days, another guy who's gotten 14 days. INGRAHAM: We have Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills who got nothing. They got immunity deals. LEWANDOWSKI: We have Andy McCabe who has been lying to the FBI since he was the acting director and hasn't been prosecuted yet. Look, I'm no fan of Paul Manafort, let's be clear. He's being treated worse than El Chapo who is on trial in New York for being the -- for running the biggest syndicate in the world, right. Look, they have done this to Paul because they want to go after the president because they have a political agenda. Bob Mueller and Jim Comey go back 25 years together and it's political in nature and we deserve better from the Justice Department. KATZ: Manafort was found to have obstructed justice while he was out on bail. You have to remember, that's why he's -- INGRAHAM: But solitary confinement? KATZ: That's not right. But the fact that he was detained is not really outrageous if he was tying to tamper with witnesses while he was out on bail, Laura. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let me tell you what's really outrageous. INGRAHAM: I will say, I will repeat, solitary confinement? KATZ: That I don't agree with. That I don't agree with at all. INGRAHAM: That should be sanctionable. I would sanction the push for the solitary confinement. I find it -- I don't even have words for it. Who gets solitary confinement anymore? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: It has been an appalling display of bad supervision by federal judges as well who are permitting this. We shouldn't let them off hook. INGRAHAM: Right. DIGENOVA: But let's remember, there is no Russian collusion that has been proven, and what really matters is how this investigation got started. What was the role of Brennan and Clapper and Comey and Sally Yates. And when we have a new attorney general, who I hope will be Bill Barr, a superb nominee, one of the first things he should do is appoint a special counsel if Mr. Huber hasn't completed his work to investigate the genesis of all of this where no crimes were committed by anybody in the Trump campaign involving Russian collusion, and yet somehow the intelligence community of the United States was used as a weapon of federal law enforcement, one of the most disgraceful performances. Anybody who cares about freedom, ought to care about that in spades. INGRAHAM: All right, we've got to get to Comey, because Comey came out, he testified on Capitol Hill today behind closed doors, the transcript is coming out tomorrow, right Byron? So we will know tomorrow what was said. Apparently his lawyer were pulling him back from answering lots of questions, big shock. But I want to get your thoughts on what he said. We have a number of soundbites, guys. I want to make sure we go through them in the right order, before we get to the attorney general, he also spoke about what he perceives to be the ongoing series of attacks from Trump on the Justice Department. I think we have that, let's watch. We're getting it. It should be coming any moment. Everybody ready for Christmas? What do you want in your stocking? Joe, you get coal all the way. Here we go. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMES COMEY, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR: I think the president's attacks on Justice Department broadly and the FBI are something that, no matter what political party you are in, you should find it deeply troubling and continue to speak out about, not become numb to attacks on the rule of law. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, the president of the United States is speaking out for the rule of law as well, David. He is speaking out for the idea that when you file for surveillance on an American citizen you reveal that the research provided was actually ginned up and funded by the individual campaign's political opponent, Hillary Clinton. That was not given to the FISA court, one of the many abuses that James Comey and company are responsible for. KATZ: Laura, we should not be so ready to attack federal judges. Federal judges and their independence and their unbiassed-ness, that is a great jewel in our system. And federal judges I think have acquitted themselves very well in this case, including the FISA judges. INGRAHAM: I'm not talking about the judges. KATZ: You're claiming that the FISA judges -- INGRAHAM: First of all, FISA judges have been very unhappy. One at least has been very unhappy. KATZ: They had a footnote. They had things to go from. And the FISA I think has done a good job in this, and I think that the federal judges in general have done a great job. INGRAHAM: David, let's talk about -- a lot of people listening aren't lawyers. If someone was coming after you, they wanted to get you, and the research that they were using was funded by someone who was your mortal enemy, sworn enemy in business or law, and that wasn't told to the judge, you think you would be a little upset? I think all of us at this table would be a little upset because it's tainted evidence or at least it has to be really looked at with a grain of salt. KATZ: You've never had a guest who believed more in the exclusionary rule than I do. INGRAHAM: You don't sound like it? What happened to you? KATZ: I'm a criminal defense attorney, and absolutely if there is really tainted evidence, it shouldn't be used. It shouldn't be the fruit of a poisoned tree. But I don't quite but that here, Laura. I'll be honest with you, I don't quite buy it here. LEWANDOWSKI: Laura, this is what they did. The FBI leaked classified information, they sole sourced it to reporters, they took those reporters stories and they used them as verification in their second FISA application, because the first FISA application, unlike 98 percent of them, was actually denied and the judge stepped off the bench and called the second FISA judge and said, am I reading this correctly? They're looking to spy on an American citizen for political purposes and the first application was denied by the Justice Department. INGRAHAM: I want to get your thoughts now on this comment from Comey after his House hearing today about Trump's pick for the next attorney general. It likely raise some eyebrows in Trump world today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMES COMEY, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR: I like and respect Bill Barr. I know he's an institutionalist who cares deeply about the integrity of the Justice Department, so I'm sure he'll use the standard career resources he has to judge what he should be involved in and what he shouldn't be involved in. But Bill Barr is a talented person who was a good attorney general the first time. I liked him very much then. I think he'll serve the Justice Department well. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joe, what do you think the president is feeling listening to Comey praising Barr tonight. Trump is like, wait a second, get Chris Christie on the line. What's going on there? I'm just teasing him. DIGENOVA: Comey is doing what he usually does. He uses sanctimony as a weapon. In his particular case it's very unbecoming. Let's remember, James Comey is a disgrace, fired FBI director because he violated the law, he violated the chain of command inside the Justice Department. I really don't care what James Comey thinks about anything. And I sincerely hope that when the new attorney general takes over, one of the first things they do is get a draft indictment of James Comey for leaking classified information, leaking information to "The New York Times," leaving third parties to leak information. I think his performance as both a director and as a former director is a disgrace. And let me just tell you, from my conversations with people inside that building now, they are embarrassed by Comey and everything that he has done since he was fired and before he was fired. INGRAHAM: And I just want everyone to know, I never want to say that I'm a great institutionalist. (LAUGHTER) YORK: One last thing. The behavior of the Justice Department in this whole investigation, Capitol Hill trying to find out what's going on, they have slow-walked and stonewalled every step of the way. INGRAHAM: I wonder why. I wonder why they slow-walked. You all were fantastic, thank you for being with us on a very busy Friday night. We have to have some fun now, right? Raymond Arroyo is next, you will not believe it. INGRAHAM: It's Friday, so it's not just Cohen and Manafort. It's time for Friday Follies. And today's topic, Kevin Hart bowing out of the Oscars, a classic Disney song nixed at an Ivy League University, and some of the -- again, the second installment of the grossest toys of the Christmas season. Joining us now, all the details, Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series. All right, Raymond, comedian Kevin Hart was all set to host the Academy Awards, and he's a funny guy. What happened there? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Laura, the Academy wanted and ABC wanted just what they did in the case of Roseanne Barr, a larger-than-life edgy act that would draw a big audience. But when controversy followed, they ran for the exits. Let's go back to 2010. This is a bit of Kevin Hart's act. So you see what ABC knew they were getting into. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KEVIN HART, COMEDIAN: One of my biggest fears is my son growing up and being gay. If I can prevent my son from being gay, I will. Every kid has a gay moment, OK, every kid. But when it happens, you have got to nip it in the bud. You've got to stop it right there. Hey, stop, that's gay! No! (LAUGHTER) (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Now, Hart also wrote similar tweets. And over the years ABC and the Academy had to know this. Now they fired a director remember a few years back for making an anti-gay slur on Twitter, and you will remember why they probably hired Hart. He's a beloved African-American performer in this age of Oscars so white, and because of what he said at MTV Video Music Awards Laura earlier this year. You'll remember he's sided with the NFL kneelers and told the president, quote, Trump, suck it. INGRAHAM: Lovely. ARROYO: The Academy loved the Trump bashing, edgy, crass Hart until Hollywood and the community started pushing back on social media, calling him homophobic, anti-gay. And they reached out to Hart. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KEVIN HART, COMEDIAN: I just got a call from the academy, and that call basically said, Kevin, apologize for your tweet of old, or we're going to have to move on and find another host. They're talking about the tweets from 2009, 2010. I chose to pass. I passed on the apology. The reason why I passed is because I have addressed this several times. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: He decided not to apologize. He said I'm not going to apologize. He eventually collapsed and he did apologize. But what this demonstrates, ABC, which is the network involved in the Academy Awards, they did not learn the Roseanne Barr lesson, which is when the PC dogma moves in and makes demands on you, stand firm. You can get people to apologize for outrageous things, but you can't collapse and throw your talent overboard or comedy, the lane for comedy is going to narrow. Nobody wants hate, but give people an option. Give them an opportunity to respond. INGRAHAM: What did we play last night from Jerry Seinfeld when he was on? ARROYO: We have another one of Jerry Seinfeld. INGRAHAM: A longer clip. ARROYO: Watch this, because it speaks to just this issue. Comedy is by its nature dangerous. INGRAHAM: And in that clip of Kevin Hart, just before we go on, he sounds like he is a self-caricature. It's comedy. He doesn't really believe what he is saying, he's just trying to make a fun moment. And I understand how people would say, that's not -- and I get it. But the idea that he, actually that's the way he really feels. Of course it's not. Of course it's not the way he feels. ARROYO: Watch this, Seinfeld. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JERRY SEINFELD, COMEDIAN: I do this joke about the way people need to justify their cellphone. I need to have it with me because people are so important. Well, they don't seem very important the way you scroll through them like a gay French king. (LAUGHTER) SEINFELD: And they thought, what do you mean gay? What are you talking about gay? Why are you saying gay? What are you doing, what do you mean? And I thought, are you kidding me? (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: This is the problem, everybody is so sensitive. We need to have our foibles and who we are lampooned so we can laugh together and get passed the bias. INGRAHAM: Everyone could laugh at each other. Don Rickles, would he be able to even perform today? ARROYO: Rickles would never be able to leave the house. INGRAHAM: Jerry Seinfeld won't go to college campuses because humor is dead. You cannot -- forget it. Raymond, let's talk now about the PC police again. They are everywhere striking fear into everybody's heart, striking even the sweet little Disney song from "Little Mermaid"? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (MUSIC) (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: You can't sing that anymore, Laura. The Tiger Tones who was the a cappella group at Princeton, they sing this and their routine is to bring a girl up from the audience. You see it here. And they serenade her, and they at the end invite another audience member to kiss the girl. Well, they are no longer performing kiss the girl because they were written up in the Princeton paper, and the woman -- INGRAHAM: "Princeton Tiger." ARROYO: Right. And she criticized them, saying this is a heteronormative attack on women's rights to oppose the romantic and sexual liberty taken by men. INGRAHAM: Is she supposed to write a consent form up on stage? ARROYO: That was the heart of her complaint, no consent. Now, can I just stop for a moment. This is the romantic and sexual liberty taken by a crab. You'll remember a crab in the movie is trying to convince the guy to kiss the girl so she can get her voice back. This is so -- INGRAHAM: I have a question. There are lots of banned songs. Does that mean George Michael old song I want your sex, are we never going to hear that on TV? ARROYO: That one should be banned entirely. INGRAHAM: On MTV. We've go to go through MTV's, if they ever play music anymore on MTV, we've got to go through all their playlists, nix it all off. ARROYO: Princeton needs to invite a ladies a cappella group to change the song, make it kiss the boy, and invite a guy up, you won't have any problem with consent, I promise. INGRAHAM: All right, finally. ARROYO: You remember, Laura, last time I introduced you to some of the most popular toys of the season, and they are really nasty and gross. We got such a reaction, I did some more research. I found two other toys. I have to bring this to you. INGRAHAM: These aren't real. ARROYO: These are real. INGRAHAM: These are not real. ARROYO: This will not be on the Arroyo kids' Christmas list. The first is called, this is not a joke, doggy doo. Look at the promotional video. Players feed the dog pellets of dogfood, squeeze the leash according to the number on the spinner. Now, the product says if the poop plops when your turn comes, you get a fart token, and the most fart tokens win the game. INGRAHAM: This is fake. ARROYO: The game maker Goliath, it's not. Goliath claims this promotes responsibility. I think it glorifies crap. I don't need a game like this. You know why? INGRAHAM: My kids -- ARROYO: I have the home addition of this. It's called Mattie the poop machine. I don't need to have a game. Do we have time for the other toy? We don't. INGRAHAM: Yes, we do. ARROYO: Oh, we do? OK, it's called Snot-it. (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: Now Snot-it is you where glasses with a long, sticky strand of snot and you pick up a colored booger. INGRAHAM: Let me see. The color. ARROYO: Look at this. Why would you ever get this game for a child? They already play with all manners of excretions. We don't need a Snot-it game. INGRAHAM: I can say one of my sons in particular would love that game. ARROYO: They'll all love it, but should we be encouraging it? INGRAHAM: Well. ARROYO: My advice, take an Allegra D, break out the Kleenex, and play Uno, or teach them a game they can play into adulthood. My great grandmother lived with us. You know what she taught me, the games? INGRAHAM: What? ARROYO: Blackjack. She worked at the Sands Hotel. That's a game you can play right up until you die. INGRAHAM: Didn't you ever play, were you like a Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots? Battleship. I sunk your battleship. ARROYO: We had something -- it's the same idea as that poop game except you shove swords into a barrel and the pirate pops up. My kids love that game. But do we need a poop game? INGRAHAM: You have to open up your mind to the possibilities. ARROYO: So the PC police don't -- INGRAHAM: Whoever came up with these games, they had to have been doing those shrooms that we are going to be talking about in the next segment. It's the potheads coming up. At first they told us it was just going to be legal for medicinal purposes, now they want it delivered right to your front door. A debate about the weed-ification of America, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How's it going, man? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey. Pretty good. How is it going with you? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Say man, you got a joint? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, not on me, man. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It'd be a lot cooler if you did. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: First we were just told that it was just going to help people coping with serious illnesses. Then we were told it was just to relieve pain. Then we were told it was for legal adults, and no worse than alcohol. But now Colorado, surprise, wants to take it to a whole new level. Frustrated by the more moderate John Hickenlooper's plodding weed legalization, Democrats are emboldened. They have progressive Jared Polis taking over the governor's mansion there, and they want to pass a bill to be allowing pot delivery right to your front door. Here to debate it now is Representative Jonathan Singer, Democratic Colorado state rep, and a sponsor of the marijuana delivery pilot project, and Luke Niforatos, he's a chief of staff and senior policy adviser for the group Smart Approaches to Marijuana. Jonathan, why make it easier for folks to get their hands on pot? JONATHAN SINGER, (D) COLORADO REPRESENTATIVE: Thanks for having me on. In 2012 voters said that marijuana was going to be legal, it was going to be constitutional, and regulated similar to alcohol. And right now what we're seeing is people going up on Craigslist, delivering their marijuana to people's doors and not caring about what was on the other side of the door. Is it a kid, is it an adult? We don't know. Now it's time to actually take this out of the shadows and regulate it just like alcohol, make sure we license our drivers, get them tracked by GPS, and make sure that we are not selling to kids. INGRAHAM: Legalization has not eliminated criminality in the marijuana trade in Colorado. You're aware of that. There's lots of investigations, lots of prosecutions. Marijuana being grown illegally, being shipped out of state illegally. And we have that minor inconvenience that it's still a federal crime, is it not. So you want to make it now legal to facilitate an ongoing federal crime with the delivery of pot to the doorstep. SINGER: I think it's even more important to stamp out a black market. INGRAHAM: It's not stamped out with marijuana in general, though. SINGER: That's because we are not fully regulating it like we should be. LUKE NIFORATOS, SMART APPROACHES TO MARIJUANA: Here's the thing. I'm from Colorado, lived in Colorado my whole life, and we've seen the black market actually thrive in the, quote-unquote, legalized state of Colorado. In fact, Colorado is now the number one exporter of black market marijuana. We have international cartels that are buying up suburban houses, turning them into grow houses, and shipping marijuana across the country, and upping violent crime in the state. So there is a major impact to the black market when you legalize it. It doesn't just go away like we were told. And really what we're not talking about, black-market is an issue, but the real issue is that today, the owner of Marlboro and Philip Morris, a major mega billion dollar tobacco company just bought a $1.8 billion stake in a marijuana company. INGRAHAM: It's about money. NIFORATOS: Yes. This is big tobacco -- INGRAHAM: When John Boehner, guys, when John Boehner, who used to be against legalizing wee, he comes out and he's like, well, I've had a change of heart, I've evolved on this issue. I'm like, OK, how much money are you making on the board of the pot company you're sitting on the board of. You're a consultant? Let's disabuse ourselves of the notion that this is all for regulating and we want to make everything safe. This is about big money. If there weren't billions in this, Representative Singer, we wouldn't be talking about it. This is all money-making. I'm a capitalist, but it's also, you have to look at who is funding this and why. And then maybe ask the question, is it good for especially young people who are using this in greater numbers today because of the overall legalization push, trying it earlier, and having more developmental problems as a result? Not so much older people, but the young developing brain, it's a disaster to start smoking pot or ingesting pot at an early age. SINGER: That's where all three of us are going to agree. This is not for kids. Unless you are talking to a doctor, this is not something that could should be having. In terms of the money, John Boehner supporting this, the bill that I ran last year was supported by a libertarian Republican. This isn't a Democratic or Republican issue. INGRAHAM: Of course. Libertarian Republicans think that amphetamines -- NIFORATOS: if everything happened in a vacuum, then great. If smoking a joint didn't affect people on the roads, then great. But you know what, it does. And there are moms, in fact moms who have been on this show whose daughter died in a car accident from a marijuana impaired driver, and that has doubled in Colorado since legalization. INGRAHAM: How would that work on the delivery? Play it out for me. So you would go on kind of like an Uber style web site, or your app, just for pot. Or would it be, Uber drivers could also themselves just deliver it? I'm just not even following how it would work. SINGER: First of all, impaired driving is incredibly serious. I have been to the funeral of a friend of mine who lost a stepdaughter to a impaired driver who was impaired with both alcohol and marijuana. It wasn't strong enough, our laws are not strong enough around that. But the way that this works, it works just like Uber eats. You can dial something up and you have a licensed GPS tracked person who shows up, who is checking I.D., who is making sure this isn't getting into the hands of kids. NIFORATOS: So here's the thing, though, is in Colorado we've seen youth use rise. So in all the states that legalize, youth use is up 14 percent. In Nevada it's up 45 percent 12 and up. So laws laid with the best of intentions have still had horrific impacts. And not only that, but we're talking about apps now, we're talking about technology, we're talking about new innovations that this big tobacco industry -- INGRAHAM: I want to have you guys back on. When Polis gets sworn in and we see this thing go forward in the first six months. Thank you so much. And spreading Christmas cheer in a very unique way, it's tonight's Last bite, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The best way to spread Christmas cheer is singing loud for all to hear. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Inspired by that motto, a Boston firefighter decided to spread some Christmas cheer in Beantown with a twist. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (MUSIC) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He says only one person didn't play along with the pillow fight. Oh my gosh, I want to go there. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the FOX NEWS @ NIGHT team, take it all from here. Shannon? Load-Date: December 8, 2018 End of Document Awaiting Mueller Memos on Manafort and Cohen; Dem Operatives Facing Federal Investigation; Clinton Foundation Under Scrutiny; Mainstream Media Showed their Disrespect for the Late President George H.W. Bush for Using His Memorial Service to Demonize and Humiliate President Trump; A Principal at an Elementary School in Omaha, Nebraska Banned Candy Canes Because It Looks Like J-Shaped that Represents Jesus, and She also Banned Christmas Carols, Ornaments and Other Christmas-Related Decors Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST December 6, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7627 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Trace Gallagher, Steve Doocy, Ainsley Earhardt Guests: John Solomon, Devin Nunes, Michelle Malkin, Roberto Hernandez, Joe Concha, Dan Bongino Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Welcome to HANNITY. Tonight, a whole lot of brand-new breaking news. All eyes tonight also on Robert Mueller, day 568 of the witch hunt, and just to recap, zero Trump- Russia collusion has been discovered, none. We do, however, tonight have no evidence that two top Democratic operatives could be in very serious trouble over their shady international dealings. We're going to bring you that report. Also, a huge blockbuster breaking story from "The Hill's" John Solomon, who has damning new information on the world's seediest charity, and there is evidence, the Clinton Foundation. And tonight, we'll show you the latest controversy swirling around Democrat Kamala Harris. And we'll reveal the dire consequences from one company's war on the Second Amendment. And stay tuned, we have a mini monologue tonight and what is the media in this country's disgusting new low, if you can believe it. But first, sit tight, buckle up. It's time for a lot of breaking news -- it will take a full hour -- opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Tonight, we are still awaiting Robert Mueller's next move. Two reports are expected before the end of the week, including new information on the special counsel's coordination with Michael Cohen and as well as findings from the never-ending saga surrounding Paul Manafort. Oh, he had nothing to do with Russia. Neither case is anything to do with collusion. And on Tuesday, Mueller released its report on Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. That memo also providing zero evidence of collusion, a process crime. You leave it to fake news CNN to put facts last, and immediately speculate that the Flynn memo was the beginning of the end for the president. Lies they have been telling us for two years. They keep just re-circulating the same lies. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The redacted document, if we can put it up, people on Twitter were literally speculating that part of those blacked out part, it matched the number of characters in the words "President Donald J. Trump." That's the extent to which people are going. You can see it there. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: For nearly two years, Robert Mueller and his merry band of Democratic donors, they have provided ample fuel for everyone who wants to destroy the administration, delegitimize a duly elected president. Now, today, the president made this astute evaluation, writing, quote: without the phony Russia witch hunt, and with all that we have accomplished in the last almost two years, tax cuts, regulation cuts, judges, military, vets, my approval rating would be at 75 percent rather than 50 percent, just reported by Rasmussen. It's called presidential harassment. Now, when Robert Mueller wraps up his investigation, he shouldn't have any trouble getting a job at the DNC. He is already, what, raise millions of dollars for Democrats, worked overtime, full-time, to destroy President Trump. And he has so many connections, after all. His staff, his entire probe with big-time Democratic donors, oh, and even former Hillary Clinton lawyer over at the Clinton Foundation. But as the hunt continues, we can report good news to you tonight. A few on the left are actually finally being held accountable. Tomorrow, James Comey, he will not testify under oath in front of the House Judiciary Committee and he will have a lot to answer for, and much of it surrounds Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. After all, remember, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, all previously stated Flynn did not appear to them to be lying. And now, Flynn ultimately pled guilty to that charge, which stemmed from our federal government illegally, what? We had surveillance, unmasking, no minimization, and then, of course, leaking raw intelligence on Flynn's international communications. So what did Comey know about that illegal unmasking? And leaking raw intelligence? And while Comey prepares for the hot seat, two other anti-Trump operatives are in hot water tonight. "The A.P." is reporting that Democratic lobbyist Tony Podesta, the brother of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta, along with Obama's former White House counsel, Greg Craig, they are now the subjects of a federal investigation into their lobbying efforts for the pro-Russia government of Ukraine. No criminal charges yet filed, but the investigation is reportedly ramping up as we speak tonight. And also breaking tonight, a new report from John Solomon at "The Hill" revealing shocking details about the investigation into the Clinton Foundation. According to Solomon -- he'll join us in a few minutes -- a 2017, while a whistle-blower submitted thousands and thousands of pages of evidence revealing shocking allegations, including, quote, serious concerns about legal compliance, improper -- literally comingling a personal and charity business, and, quote, quid pro quo promises made to donors, while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state. It is important that the Clinton Foundation raised a whopping $62.9 million in 2016, when a Clinton presidency looked inevitable. The very next year, after a shocking defeat, well, the foundation only managed to raise a paltry, well, $26 million. Now, that is a very suspicious trend, given clear pay for play accusations surrounding the Clinton Foundation. Now, a spokesperson from the foundation did get back to us and tell us that it is one of the most heavily scrutinized charitable organizations in the world and is continually subjected to politically motivated allegations and the foundation's CFO is denying any inappropriate or illegal activities. Well, we'll see. And, by the way, Solomon has been very busy this week. Last night, right here on this program, well, we showed you another breaking report from "The Hill", exposing serious FISA abuse at the highest level of James Comey's FBI and Obama's DOJ. And according to this report, the new evidence in a form of a huge email chain finally discovered after two years revealing that, quote, "The FBI was aware before they secured their first warrant, infamous FISA warrant on Carter Page, that, in fact, there were intelligence community concerns about the veracity, the reliability of the main evidence, the bulk of evidence, that went into the FISA application. In other words, the Clinton bought and paid for Christopher Steele dossier with Russian lies. Now, this smoking gun evidence that high-level FBI officials willfully committed a fraud, multiple times, on FISA court judges to obtain and secure a warrant on this Trump campaign associate, Carter Page. They never told the FISA judge that the dossier was bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton, a massive omission, or that its contents were never corroborated or never verified, and that our own intelligence community had doubts. And yet, because of that phony dossier, and American citizen, for a year, was spied on by our federal government, a grave miscarriage of justice. John Solomon will have more in just a minute. But first, we are only weeks out of the midterms and already, believe it or not, the 2020 election is starting to heat up. Democrats have an extremely long and extremely weak field of candidates likely running to challenge President Trump. And tonight, one of the top contenders, far left zealot, Kamala Harris, is cutting ties with a top aide embroiled in what is a massive harassment scandal. She accepted his resignation today after "The Sacramento Bee" reported the details of a 2016, $400,000 suit, and Harris is claiming she had no prior knowledge of this massive legal filing. Uh-huh. We'll find out overtime. Now, Senator Harris will reportedly decide over the holidays whether or not she wants to challenge President Trump in 2020. And, of course, Harris, and other top liberals, will make gun ownership a big issue for 2020. Make no mistake, they do not believe in the Second Amendment the way a lot of Americans do. But Democrats should, well, probably take note of what happened to Dick's Sporting Goods. Earlier this year, remember, Dick's Sporting Goods took a political stance against the Second Amendment. They actually hired a gun- control lobbyist, refused to sell guns to law-abiding citizens under the age of 21. They stopped selling AR style long rifles. Well, now, the chain sales have dropped nearly 4 percent and its outdoor focused field and stream stores may soon be closing their doors. Now, sadly, what Dick's and most of the Democrats often take for granted, the Second Amendment matters to the American people. That is why it is, yes, number two. It's an ever present check on the threat of foreign, domestic, and also, it is more than that, to own a gun. It's the right to defend yourself and your family, self-preservation, a protection of all our enable rights as Americans. We live in a dangerous and more violent world every day. All right. Joining us now, more breaking news, on top of his report yesterday about the Clinton Foundation, is "The Hill's" John Solomon. This article means, to me, that, all that evidence, 6,000 pages, is that the total? JOHN SOLOMON, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER, THE HILL: That's right, 6,000 pages, 95 exhibits. HANNITY: Ninety-five exhibits. OK. So, the other question is, why don't we go through what they found and why we are here and why they have not been under more fire? SOLOMON: Yes. I think, first of all, it's interesting who they are, who made this complaint. These are former experts from the Drug Enforcement Agency for the U.S. attorney's office in Connecticut, for major complaints for major Wall Street firms. These are people that live and breathe tax law and good governance and they put together this complaint. They assembled a lot of internal documents from the Clinton Foundation, perhaps most importantly, two legal reviews that the Clinton Foundation did on itself. And what they found is that the Clinton Foundation itself, its own lawyers, warned that there was a strong possibility that donors were being made promises of quid pro quo favors from Secretary Clinton when she was in the Obama administration and return for gift to the foundation. They warned that there was a culture of noncompliance, not wanting to comply with the law, with the rules of the foundation had to follow. They said that Bill Clinton's personal interest and his comingling of his personal business with the foundation posed a grave threat to the foundation itself. These are not Republicans. These are not partisans of saying it. These are internal documents of lawyers hired by the Clinton Foundation to find out what was going on wrong in the foundation, as to what they found. So, these investigators assembled all these evidence. They then go and they interview the current CFO, the longtime CFO, of the Clinton Foundation, a guy named Andy Kessel, and they do this in November '16, they take them out to dinner, lunch, New York, and they ask, are there problems here? And according to their memo, their interview memo after they met with him, he makes several spontaneous claims, that he can control Bill Clinton, that people have been trying to stop them from comingling personal business with the foundation but nobody can control him. And he makes the most provocative of statements allegedly, if you believe this memo, in which he says, I know where all the bodies are buried at the Clinton Foundation. So, they assemble all this evidence, they give it to the IRS in August '16, they give it to the main Justice Department of Bill Clinton's -- excuse me, Donald Trump's Justice Department in October 2017, and then in early 2018, they are called by the FBI in Little Rock and they provide the evidence to the FBI in Little Rock, which means the main apparatus, the IRS, and the FBI, and, now have access to all of these allegations of wrongdoing. HANNITY: What is happening -- look, John, you are talking about 6,000 pages, 95 exhibits of a 48 page submission. And the evidence, as I read in your article, seems overwhelming and incontrovertible here. How has it been sitting for a year, especially in light of, we already know the issue of Hillary's violation of the Espionage Act by having that mom and pop shop server, we had secret, top-secret, classified information on it? That's a violation of the Espionage Act, obstructing justice as it relates to how she deleted emails, wash your hard drive clean, and had devices broken up. They seem to skate every time. You are describing, literally, systematic violations of every charitable contribution law imaginable here, including IRS violations. They are sitting on that for a year? Who is looking into it? SOLOMON: Well, that's a great question. I think we're going to get a very important answer. I want to put a special date on your calendar. Next Thursday, Mark Meadows, Chairman Mark Meadows, House Subcommittee on the Oversight -- House Oversight Committee, is going to have a hearing, these two whistle-blowers, two of the whistleblowers who helped form this complaint, did this all this investigative work, are going to testify for the first time in public, and they have asked the Justice Department to come in and say, what have you done with us? Mr. Huber, John Huber, the special U.S. attorney who President Clinton's former attorney general, Jeff sessions named year ago, what have you done, how much money have you spent. Bob Mueller spent tens of millions of dollars, what have you done to look at these allegations. We may get our first answer in public to what the Justice Department has done. Now, we have some hints my story. We know that the FBI not only had contact with these whistle-blowers but I'm able to confirm from Clinton Foundation sources that Kessel, the CFO, the guy who ran the finances, was interviewed by the FBI in 2017. We know that Doug Campbell, the undercover informant for -- that was undercover to the Russian nuclear, he was interviewed by the same Little Rock FBI. HANNITY: That was Uranium One. SOLOMON: Yes, Uranium One informant. So, we do see some activity. If I had to guess for my reporting, if there was action going on, it is in Little Rock, Arkansas. But for the first time, Congress is going to put the Trump Justice Department's own officials, their feet to the fire and we're going to get an answer. Have you done anything? How much of you spent on this? Is there a legality or should we drop this line of inquiry with the Clinton foundation? Next Thursday could be the day we get our answer. HANNITY: The people that would you've spoken to in the legal side, do they see laws violated? SOLOMON: They do. And so, I sent this to a half-dozen former FBI, IRS experts who focused and charity fraud and financial fraud, and all of them said to a T, if this walked into my door, it would give me a predicate for opening a criminal investigation of the Clinton Foundation and perhaps individuals inside of them. Every one of them said. I think one of them, Jeff Danik, very well-known, decorated FBI agent, made some of the most complex financial fraud cases in the history of the bureau, said I would open up on this in the second based on what these investigators put together in this private document. HANNITY: Back-to-back huge bombshells by John Solomon. We're going to have you back tomorrow and the rest of the week, into next week to get into this more deeply. John, thank you. SOLOMON: Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Joining us with more reaction, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes is with us. First, do you have any reaction to what you just heard from John Solomon and then I want to go to a breaking report from yesterday? REP. DEVIN NUNES (R-CA), HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: Yes, it doesn't surprise me, Sean. I mean, we have actively been looking into the Clinton Foundation, Uranium One, if you may remember, we assigned a tax force leader, Peter King from New York, to look into this. So, we have seen troubling information from this, and I can't verify John's reporting, he always does a good job, he has great sources, and I'm sure there is much more to be learned on it. HANNITY: Let me go back to the breaking news yesterday. What we discovered, I don't know how this was not known when we go back two years now, pretty much investigating this whole issue, the Clinton bought and a paid for phony dossier et cetera, what we know how I found out, there is an email chain, or a chain of emails, James Comey is on it, top DOJ officials are on it, and they knew, and the Intel Committee had -- intel community had massive questions about their veracity, the truthfulness, the validity of the dossier, what your memo and the Grassley-Graham memo point to as the bulk of the applications for the FISA warrant against Carter Page. When did you first find out about this email chain? NUNES: Well, I don't know that the email chain and John's reporting is the same stuff we are looking at, although it sounds very similar. What we have been saying, and this went as high as the speaker of the house, we've been requesting for many months about, and I talked about it on your show a couple weeks ago, that there are emails, there are redactions that we are quite convinced that if that is unredacted and provided to the House of Representatives, to the Intelligence Committee, it will be very clear that there is very much -- it was very well known, there was a lot of information that was not provided to the FISA court leading up to the warrant on Carter Page. So I don't know exactly who John's sources are. But I do know that we have been trying to get these reductions from emails without looking -- it's possible that we are talking about the same types of emails. It's also possible, Sean, that there's even more emails that we don't even know about. But what we are aware of, what I call the fourth bucket of information, it would be very clear that there were people within the FBI and DOJ that knew well and good before they went to the FISA court that Christopher Steele and others were up to some really bad and nefarious activities. HANNITY: So, you're saying that these emails will be the fourth bucket. The 302s would be the second bucket. The FISA applications themselves, especially the last one, pages 10 to 12, 17 to 34, then the gang of eight information, those would be the four buckets. What John is saying here -- NUNES: That's correct. Remember, Sean, the first three, the president has actually called to have declassified. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But he's holding it back, he recently said. NUNES: -- tonight is this fourth bucket. HANNITY: OK. So, what I want to ask is, if they knew, and if the intelligence committee knew that they questionable, the whole dossier was questionable, it was the bulk of the FISA applications, and they used it anyway, we know that they omitted that Hillary bought and paid for it with a footnote that said it might have a political taint into it but they did not say it was the opposition party candidate, is it possible that they knew it was not true, that they gave it to the FISA court anyway, that they didn't do their due diligence, verifying, corroborating, and that they totally and completely committed fraud on the FISA court, not once come, but four separate times, meaning that everyone was signing off on an application to spy on an American with evidence that they, at best, could very likely not be true? NUNES: Yes. So, remember what we have been looking at criminally, has been abuse of power, whether or not there was a conspiracy to abuse power, you know about that, you've talked about that for a long time. What this gets into, is this would be the first clear evidence that we have on another major crime, which would be called lying to a federal judge, which is a crime, and a major crime. HANNITY: But the people we are talking about would be Comey -- NUNES: It is the evidence we have. HANNITY: This would be Comey signing off on it. Rod Rosenstein signing off on the last one. We have Sally Yates signing off on it, right? NUNES: Well, they are the ones that signed off on it, but they're not necessarily the ones who would have provided and doctored the information. So, really, the people that are culpable here are the ones who were in these discussions, that knew about the information that was not provided to the court. HANNITY: Even though Adam Schiff, who I have a lot of issues with, will be the chairman of the committee come January, will you still have the authority and the ability to get this information to the American people? NUNES: Yes, the only difference is that I will be the Republican leader on the committee. The question is, the subpoena power will lay in the hands of the Democrats. HANNITY: But the Senate would have the power, too, as well. (CROSSTALK) NUNES: That's true. But we have also, for many months here, Sean, been willing to -- we've said, our investigation is over with. The White House is going to be able to declassify a lot of this information to help us out to get to the bottom of this. HANNITY: All right. Congressman Nunes, you've done great work, so has John Solomon. If so, basically what I said is true, that is there is no equal justice, equal application of our laws, that will be shredding, literally shredding, if you are giving false information to a court, to obtain FISA warrant to spy on an American, and not even verifying it. Wow. Michelle Malkin debates and immigration activist about the crisis at our southern border. That's next on this breaking news night. Also later, a school principal trying to ban candy canes because it has a J-shape and it might have to do with. Steve Doocy and Ainsley Earhardt are here in studio to react, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. As the migrant caravan continues to cause chaos on the border, reports are emerging of a migrant woman, a member of the caravan, who entered the U.S. illegally, gave birth to a baby less than 24 hours later, and then ICE released a statement saying they have arrested 58 illegal aliens in five-day raid in the New England area. According to ICE, among those arrested, 30 had prior felony convictions for serious or violent offenses, 33 have criminal charges pending, 15 were previously released from local law enforcement custody without an active detainer, nine were referred for criminal prosecution. One is being referred to the U.S. marshals for failure to register as a sex offender. Nine have been previously removed from the United States, and returned illegally. Four had active, well, Interpol red notices. Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi says she will not accept a DACA deal in a exchange for the wall. Guess they don't want to fix the problem ever, even if you give them what they want. Take a t look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REPORTER: Would you be willing to support some degree of wall funding if you got a permanent, bona fide solution on DACA? REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: No. REPORTER: Why not? PELOSI: Well, because they are two different subjects. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Here with reaction, we have conservative columnist, our friend Michelle Malkin, and immigration activist Roberto Hernandez. Roberto, you look at all of that and I understand that a lot of people want to come to America, I just want people to come legally, so we have a chance to vet them, to make sure we pay, on average, $70,000 per year per illegal immigrant, the American taxpayer. That's health care, education, criminal justice system, and, you know, we have Obama authorized $300 million to pay for free legal advice. We have two recent cases where innocent people, one in Oregon, one in Texas, were murdered by illegal immigrants. Why can't we just do this all legally? ROBERTO HERNANDEZ, IMMIGRATION ACTIVIST: First of all, when Obama campaigned to be president, he promised that he was going to do immigration reform the first year that he was in office. And Nancy Pelosi was the head of the speaker of the House -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Sir, I ask you a very simple question, what do you say to the families -- you're not answering my question. What do you say to the families -- HERNANDEZ: Let me tell you -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: There are two families in the last three weeks that lost loved ones because of illegal immigration. Why can't we, as America, have the right to vet people to make sure that they can take care of themselves when they are here and that they don't have any criminal ties or backgrounds? Is that fair? HERNANDEZ: The Democratic Party failed to do immigration reform. HANNITY: You're not answering my question. Is that fair that we vet people? HERNANDEZ: What we ended up getting was DACA, a program for -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You have no intention of answering my question. What do you say to the families -- listen to me! What do you say to families who lost their children because of illegal immigrants coming to the country illegally, violating our sovereignty and our laws, and they end up killing innocent people? That's not the vast majority. But when that happens, what you say those parents? HERNANDEZ: But that's just a few people. We have criminals every day in this country. How many white people are killing people in this country? MICHELLE MALKIN, SYNIDCATED COLUMNIST & AUTHOR: Oh, wow. HERNANDEZ: You know what, you are picking on a few incidents, a few incidents. That is what you are doing. You are picking on a few incidents. When you look at -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Michelle Malkin. Michelle? HERNANDEZ: Who are the majority of the criminals in this country, they are white. We are not talking about them. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. Michelle? MALKIN: They avoid the basic, fundamental question, and the basic distinction between people who want to come here illegally and people who want to come here illegally. Sean, you could have one of these open borders extremists on every single night, and they sound so reasonable, and actually I agree with what he was trying to stay there when he was avoiding your question -- yes, Democrats are hypocrites, they talk out of both sides of their mouths on this issue, and I know that people like him and his lobbying groups are very disappointed that they didn't get to the wholesale amnesty they want. The bottom line is, people like Mr. Hernandez, your guest in San Francisco, which has been absolutely ruined by illegal alien sanctuary policies, and you want him to confront the violent crime that has wracked families of all colors in San Francisco and he won't do it. Instead, he'll talk about the plight of all of these migrants from around the world who want to flood our borders and cause even more chaos. The cost of health care, welfare, education and crime and the impact on American workers of all colors. HANNITY: Thank you both. We appreciate it. When we come back, liberal media if you can believe it, they are now stoop to a new low using the memorial service for Bush 41 to once again attack President Trump. Is there any decency? Our mini-monologue straight ahead. TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Live from America's news headquarters. I'm Trace Gallagher. Several sources telling Fox News that President Trump will nominate Heather Nauert as U.N. ambassador. He is expected to make it official and in tweet tomorrow morning. Nauert currently serves as the State Department spokeswoman. She as previously an anchor here at Fox News Channel. If confirmed, she would replace Nikki Haley who announce she would be leaving the job as the end of the year. A final salute for our nation's 41st president. Family and friends held a funeral for George H.W. Bush in Houston. Mr. Bush's flag draped casket was then loaded on to a special funeral train painted to resemble Air Force One. Bush was buried on the grounds of his presidential library in College Station next to his wife Barbara and daughter Robin. The former president died last Friday at the age of 94. I'm Trace Gallagher. Now back to Hannity. HANNITY: All right. As I have explained again and again, when it comes to trashing President Trump, well, nothing is off-limits. And if you thought what we showed you last night was bad, it's getting even worse. Ad that is the subject of tonight's mini-monologue. All right. Tonight, the media is sinking to new depths if that's even possible. Clearly it is, as they continue to use the funeral, the life, the legacy of former President George H.W. Bush to attack President Trump. Now after yesterday's powerful memorial service in Washington, D.C. for the late 41st president, well, your mainstream media still cannot stop using these events to demonize their current enemy, which is President Trump. And it's getting even more ridiculous. They are now going after President Trump over how he prays. I'm not making this up. To them, even standing silently during the Apostle's Creed in the funeral is cause for an attack against him. But to choose the media is getting more and more unhinged and more hateful and more divorced from any sense of reality or what their real job is supposed to be. And they wonder why nobody trust them. And of course, the destroy Trump media didn't stop there. Rather than focusing on the life, the accomplishments, the sacrifice, the service of the 41st president, the coverage looked like this. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEPHEN COLBERT, COMEDIAN: It was a full state funeral. It was quite a moving sight to see the presidents and the first ladies in the front row waiting to honor President Bush, chatting comfortably with one another, until Trump showed up, then it became was silent staring time. Donald Trump is the only person in the world who can bring down a funeral. JIMMY KIMMEL, COMEDIAN: Hillary Clinton is just staring straight ahead like-- (APPLAUSE) KIMMEL: Like she is on an elevator with a weirdo. (APPLAUSE) KIMMEL: And it was like it really was something. It's like all of American's divorced parents together in the same room for the first time. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was extraordinary. To see President Trump sitting with former presidents paying tribute to a leader whose humility and decency is so different from today's politics. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think you want to give out medals for not screwing up a presidential funeral. The president was on his best behavior this week but that's a fairly low bar. MAUREEN DOWD, COLUMNIST, THE NEW YORK TIMES: Well, I think in this era of covering white collar crimes and porn stars and vulgarity, you know, it was nice to look back to someone trying to represent decency and civility. And when they were planning his funeral in 2011, he said to an aid, do you think anyone will come? And that modesty is in such contrast to Trump's endless odyssey of narcissistic self-discovery. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That's not egregious of now so-called journalists over at ABC News even joked about a future funeral for President Trump. You can't make this up. Take a listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Perhaps a recognition in terms of his involvement in the proceedings by President Trump that he someday will be getting a similar treatment when he passes as a former president of the United States. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Probably a different tone in that funeral? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Perhaps. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's going to -- first he is going to choregraph it, so it maybe more Trump attuned fanfares. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Maybe he was taking cues. Yes, he would do it bigger. One would imagine. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It will be the best presidential funeral ever. No one had -- will ever have seen anything like that. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And as disturbing as that was, well, no one embarrassed themselves more than fake news CNN, our friend Don Lemon said something so outrageous that even his colleague had to call him out. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DON LEMON, CNN HOST: I want to say that I don't think I would have shaken hands with him. I don't know -- I would just. Nope, I couldn't do it. I'm not that big a person. I would hope that I would be. But I don't -- I can't fake the funk as they say. I want to show you something. CHRIS CUOMO, CNN HOST: You don't have to. LEMON: OK, come here. Come here, Don. CUOMO: Go ahead. LEMON: I try to shake hands. So, I go. CUOMO: Poor Don. You're petty and small. LEMON: I'm not petty and small. That's real, brother. That's real. CUOMO: Real petty and small. LEMON: And it shows you this is not-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But it's like I keep telling you this is all part of a pattern demonize, denigrate, delegitimize every second, every minute of every hour of every day President Trump at all cost even if it means using the passing of an American icon, who by the way, they were pretty mean to when he was alive, President H.W. Bush to try and score cheap political points and further divide the country. Here with reaction. He is the media reporter from The Hill, Joe Concha, and former Secret Service agent, our friend Dan Bongino. Joe, let me start with you. They said he was a gentleman and he was. And but, they didn't say nice things about him when he was alive. Being a gentleman back then he was a wimp, you know. He was, you know, he was out of touch. He didn't know how to use a scanner which, by the way, was a fake news story back in the day. And so, Reagan and Bush 41, McCain, and even, you know, Bush 43 while he was alive, they trashed these men. Utterly destroyed them. Now they die, they say nice things to appear or create a veneer that they are bipartisan. JOE CONCHA, REPORTER AND COLUMNIST, THE HILL: Bipartisan. HANNITY: And they're not. CONCHA: George W. Bush was also called a racist. Before it was fashionable to call anybody a racist before the Willie Horton ad if you remember that. Interesting stat, in 1992, 7 percent of journalists voted for George H.W. Bush. The rest obviously for Bill Clinton. You play some clips there and Kimmel and Colbert were joking and they are late night hosts, so I kind of give them a pass on that. I still think it's classless given that this was a state funeral held the same day. But ABC News their senior analyst, a guy like Terry Moran is making jokes while you are watching the procession of the casket of George H.W. Bush being taken out of a plane. And he is making jokes about President Trump's future funeral? Do these guys have any self-awareness? The answer is none whatsoever. So, Sean, this is why the media is not only mistrusted but held in contempt-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Deservedly so. CONCHA: -- by at least half the country. It's not about distrust anymore. It's like, I don't like these people. They don't have any class. And they are cheesy. That Don Lemon skit. I'm going to show you how I'm going to blow off Donald Trump by not shaking his hands. What is that? He is called an anchor on that network. He's not even an opinion guy. HANNITY: You know, Dan, I always said in the Obama era, I said specially on radio more than television that wouldn't be good for me to get an interview with then President Obama because I respect the office. And I think he is a good father. Probably a good guy. It's just a radical ideologue that governed horribly. It's a hard thing, because you -- I respected the office. I wouldn't be able to interrupt him or can you or Joe. Let's put it that way. DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: And you do that. CONCHA: Right. HANNITY: So, I mean, what did you think of that? BONGINO: Yes. Sean, this is -- you're right. You know, I served as a secret service agent for, you know, years. Proudly under Barack Obama because I believe in the Constitution of the republic although like yourself, I disagree with just about every ecological position he had. But this is what's known as the myth of the good Republican. You probably know what I'm talking about here. When a Republican is powerless or has left the political scene, what the media will do, is they will paint their coverage of this Republican as something it wasn't. You're absolutely right. When George H.W. Bush was in office it was merciless the media coverage. I was just a young man back then but I specifically remember it, and it was merciless. And they do it for a reason, Sean. They do it because of this foil effect, right. They want to make the current Republicans appear really bad, right. Why do you put a diamond on the black background? Because it seems shinier. So, what they want to do is they do the reverse foil. They want to see and make these Republicans, especially Donald Trump seem awful. So, they go back and rewrite history about how they covered past Republicans. It's total nonsense and everybody sees through it. HANNITY: All right. I got to roll. Thank you both. CONCHA: Thank you. HANNITY: All right. You're not going to believe it. This, what we tell you next, liberal lunacy around Christmas at an all-time low. Once principal trying to ban candy canes because they are J shaped when you hold them that way. And they think that means Jesus. Steve Doocy, Ainsley Earhardt from Fox and Friends are next. HANNITY: All right. Last night we told you about the Massachusetts pastor who put baby Jesus in a cage. There it is a nativity scene to make a point, what about not Christmas, not about what Christmas season is all about but about immigration. But now there is more left-wing insanity to tell you about. There is a principal at an elementary school in Omaha, Nebraska, literally banning candy canes, saying "the J-shaped represents Jesus." Now she also banned Christmas carols, ornaments and even reindeer. We reached out to the district for comment, they told us in part, quote, "The memo does not reflect the policy of Alcorn public schools regarding holiday symbols in the school." The school also noted that the principal had been placed on administrative leave. I just can't believe we're doing this. Joining us now he is the author of the bestseller "The Happy Cookbook," Fox and Friends Steve Doocy, also, another bestseller, Fox and Friends co-host Ainsley Earhardt. By the way, Ainsley is doing a holiday special, it's now airing on Foxnation.com. And here is a clip from that series. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AINSLEY EARHARDT, FOX NEWS CO-HOST: How did you decide to use the red Christmas balls that's different from last year? MELANIA TRUMP, FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES: It's very important to choose, you know, to show the people something different each year. We have thousands of thousands of people coming through here and see the decorations. So, it's very exciting. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: They also co-host the number one morning show in all of cable. Steve and Ainsley with us. Merry Christmas. EARHARDT: Merry Christmas. Thank you for having us here. HANNITY: Good to see you. STEVE DOOCY, FOX NEWS CO-HOST: Good to see you, sir. HANNITY: OK. I am on page 184. What page are you on, do you even know? EARHARDT: I'm on page 158. HANNITY: By the way, great Christmas gift. Wait, you are ahead of me? EARHARDT: I'm ahead of you. HANNITY: Where is Brian and Mr. Kilmeade in this? (CROSSTALK) EARHARDT: He is ahead of all of us. He's on 134. DOOCY: You are talking entrees. If you want to be on page one, be an appetizer or breakfast. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How did he get on the show? Brian does three hours of radio, three hours with you guys, then he does Outnumbered, The Five, and Tucker. I'm sure -- why is he not here EARHARDT: He is a work horse, yes, he loves to work. We are proud of him. HANNITY: Good. All right. You know, I'm a Christian. I know you are Christian. You write about your faith a lot-- (CROSSTALK) EARHARDT: And Steve is. HANNITY: -- in your books. And Steve is. I want to be a better Christian. Let me put it that way. But I -- this is what Christmas is about. We have a teacher telling kids, five-year-olds that Santa doesn't exist. Then the J represents Jesus. Now we have to politicize Christmas and put a nativity scene the baby Jesus in cages. EARHARDT: Yes, you have a satanic statue called the "snaketivity" in Illinois' capital in the state house Rotunda in between a menorah and the Christmas tree. You have this lady, the principal at the elementary school who doesn't want to have candy caned because they rep -- they have a J. You know what I thought about? I didn't even think about that. But I thought, no, I even like candy canes even more. HANNITY: Great. EARHARDT: Because the J for Jesus, the red is for the blood-- HANNITY: There you go. EARHARDT: -- and the white is for the resurrection as the principal said. HANNITY: Now you have young kids, so would you ever want to take away the joy and the happiness of Christmas morning when-- (CROSSTALK) EARHARDT: Absolutely not. Now this is what she wants to take away in addition to what you already listed. The elf on the shelf, Santa's Christmas trees, Christmas book-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What is the elf on the shelf? EARHARDT: -- green and red items. HANNITY: Yes. EARHARDT: She wants to take away Christmas videos and movies but you can't have gifts, snowman, snowflakes, gingerbread people, holidays around the world. You can have hot chocolate. You can have scarfs and gloves and you could have hats. DOOCY: Listen. HANNITY: Wait a minute. He is getting cold in the stock before putting, drying up in the front of the book, but go ahead. DOOCY: I think -- you know, you guys, great points. However, I think that this principal who has said this deserves a raise. You know, we need more people in education who are very creative. Because if you look at a candy cane and you see Jesus. That is very creative. That's very interpretative. Having written a cookbook, and on page 186, our candy canes-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Two pages away from Hannity's recipe of corned beef. Go ahead. DOOCY: Candy canes, as it turns out, candy canes used to be straight. And then about 250 years ago a German guy decided, you know what, I'm going to bend the top to make it look like a shepherd's hook. That -- it's a shepherd's hook. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Wow. You wouldn't get that in any other book. DOOCY: It's not a J for Jesus. HANNITY: But the -- listen, there is a hostility, you know, towards Christmas. When you look at it, there is a fear that is consumed people to the point where they even are willing to destroy what Christmas is for the fun side for kids and also the meaning of the holiday for Christians. That to me is like, where is their tolerance on the left? EARHARDT: That goes back to the beginning of time, though. I mean, that's never going to change. There will always going to be people who want to destroy what the season is all about. I mean, think about Harrod, he was trying to kill the first-born son. You know, it goes back to the beginning of time, Sean. People have always been like this. They're not going to win. I'm sorry. The battle is going to be won by our lord and savior. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So, there is an end of the story already. Well, as a Christian, I believe that too. Steve? DOOCY: The problem is because there are so many -- we're a litigious nation now. You know, everybody seems to wants to sue other people for a variety of reasons. HANNITY: I want to sue you for putting my recipe in your book and I didn't get any proceeds, but, go ahead. DOOCY: So many people are willing to bend and do things they don't want to do simply because of the threat of a lawsuit. And you know, when you look at how many schools don't do Christmas parties anymore, Christmas programs, they do holiday parties or winter in our town parties because they are afraid of lawsuits. And they can't afford a lawsuit. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's Hanukkah. I have many friends that celebrate Hanukkah. I say happy Hanukkah. All right. It's crazy. Your Christmas special airs on Foxnation.com. EARHARDT: Yes. It's up on Fox Nation. And we go, we visit with George (Ph), Building Homes for Heroes. HANNITY: I love that. EARHARDT: That great organization built a home for him. It's outfitted for him. We went inside the White House with Melania. HANNITY: Cool. EARHARDT: We also did make a wish foundation. You can find out what they're doing behind the scenes and how many kids are getting wishes. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So, this is only on Fox Nation. EARHARDT: It's only on Fox Nation. HANNITY: Dot com. EARHARDT: Yes. HANNITY: Are you going to do a show? Are you going to do a cooking show? (CROSSTALK) EARHARDT: Yes. He has a cooking segment. DOOCY: I do a cooking show on Fox Nation. HANNITY: All right. I have an announcement soon about Fox Nation. I haven't made an announcement. Listen, Merry Christmas to both of you. DOOCY: Thank you. HANNITY: I watch every morning. You guys are the best. Congratulations on a great year. (CROSSTALK) EARHARDT: Thanks, Sean. DOOCY: Merry Christmas. EARHARDT: Merry Christmas. HANNITY: By the way, if you don't have Fox Nation, sign up. I'm going to have a little announcement about this. When we come back, highlights from President George H.W. Bush's funeral earlier today. HANNITY: Today, the funeral service for President George H.W. Bush was held in Houston, a powerful ceremony and a testament to what an extraordinary selfless life, a life of leadership, sacrifice, giving that he left. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Today after 94 years, the heavy hand of time has claimed the life my gamp's. But, in death as in life, my grandfather has won. For he has exchanged his earthly burdens for heavenly home and is at peace. Yes, George Herbert Walker Bush is the most gracious, most decent, most humble man that I will ever know and it's the honorable lifetime to share his name. God bless you, gampy. Until we meet again. Maybe on that rock boat we built together. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: God speed, H.W. Bush. Good, great faithful servant to all of us here in this country. Our thoughts and prayers remain with the Bush family. That is, though, all the time we have left this evening. As always, thank you for being with us and let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Laura Ingraham is up next. Load-Date: December 7, 2018 End of Document Liberals Trying to Tell You What to Feel, Act, Pray Making Them the Worst Type of Moralist, even Criticizing Trump at Bush 41's Funeral; Former FBI Director Jim Comey to Testify on Capitol Hill; Mueller Probe May Focus on Former Obama and Clinton Aides; Government Report on Climate Change Criticized; Lawsuit Brought against Rhode Island Government for Not Preparing Students for Civic Duty in America; Bomb Threat Causes CNN Building Evacuation Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST December 6, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7979 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Raymond Arroyo, Byron York Guests: Harmeet Dhillon, Jennifer Holdsworth, Herman Cain, Jonathan Turley, Chuck DeVore, Chris Hahn, Michael Rebell Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Our thoughts and prayers remain with the Bush family. That is all the time we have left this evening. As always, thank you for being with us and let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Laura Ingraham is up next. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: I am Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington. With disgraced FBI director Jim Comey set to testify on the Hill tomorrow, there are specific questions that need to be asked and answered, namely why did Hillary aides Cheryl Mills and who Huma Abedin likely get away with lying to the FBI while Trump associates are prosecuted. Byron York has some answers. And while the resistance cheers, the Mueller probe may have inadvertently ensnared former Clinton and Obama aides. Professor Jonathan Turley will tell us why this is another sign that Mueller has overstepped his bounds. Plus, we were led to believe that everything the government tells us about climate science is true, but what if those reports are being funded by billionaire activists? The man who investigated the latest climate report is here to tell us what's going on. Herman Cain and Raymond Arroyo are here as well. But first, the attack of the liberal killjoy's. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Liberals are trying to tell us how to feel, how to celebrate, and if you can believe it, even how to pray during the holidays. A few decades back, they fought really hard against a campaign by Tipper Gore. Remember when she was lobbying for warning labels on music that had explicit content in the lyrics? And let's face it. Whenever parents for instance raise concerns about the music industry's gross, explicit lyrics or over-sexualized scenes on T.V., well, liberals responded with, oh, just change the channel. But today, they have a current case of amnesia because they are now the new censors, and the offending content, Christmas songs. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The character in the song is saying no and they are saying, well, does no really mean yes? And I think in 2018, what we know is consent is yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you see in the video how she tries to leave and he grabs her arm and then she looks at her arm. And then he closes the thing and says you can't leave. I mean, that part is somewhat coercive. I mean, I have to say it's making me re-think -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The song. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. It is making me rethink it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now I am rethinking a lot of things too after watching (inaudible) comment there. All right. Maybe it's really cold outside. Well, notice how the left, they don't want to place any limits on what is truly objectionable content, you know, hip-hop, rap, some of the worst of stuff which routinely objectifies women, demonizes law enforcement and celebrate things called murder. But instead they seek to spit (ph) the darkest spin on part of our American musical traditions. The left has no problem with performances like these, but "baby, it's cold outside" is a national disgrace. Thankfully not everyone is thrilled though about where the politically correct crowd is taking us. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Not me. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm going to go back in. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. GAYLE KING, CBS HOST: No, so I mean, so we'll just have to agree to disagree. I just think that it's a light, flirtatious song. And she clearly doesn't seem to be so upset. Keep looking at the whole darn song before you make a decision. I am so irritated by that. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, my guess -- KING: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sit down. We are losing our sense of humor nowadays. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Bingo, Gayle King. Even Christmas specials, we used to look forward to them every year. They only played once a year that made them more special. Even though specials aren't safe from the liberal black list. Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer has been singled out by "The Huffington Post" as seriously problematic. Have they watched T.V. recently? People are being sexually assaulted and brutalized 24/7, "Huff Po." But a 54- year-old clay animation reindeer sends them all to the crying room? Well, actually scenes like this are quite harrowing. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: From now on, gang, we won't let Rudolph join in any reindeer games, right? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I love the little whistle around his neck. Sorry, but I think I have to take a moment here. I think just seeing that scene may have triggered my PRSD, post Rudolph stress disorder. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right, son, try it on. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't want to. Daddy, I don't like this. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You will like it and wear it. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now there's one thing I want to make very plain. No doe of mine is going to be seen with a red-nosed reindeer. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Summon the grief counselors. Oh, and by the way, they say it is sexist because Rudolph's dad, of course, you can see, he tells his wife with that the search for their son is man's work so she can't go out in the cold. He will go find Rudolph. You stay here on the home front, honey. Now, this is a beloved Christmas special and the longest continuously running one as well. But do you see what liberals seek to do? They are trying to disrupt and destroy traditions and replace them with their own version of some transitory nonsense. By seeing dark forces and even an innocent Christmas special, they divide us with the goal of ripping away yet another little innocuous thing that families have enjoyed for more than half a century. But nothing fun and traditional is off-limits or I would say for any of these censorious liberals. Years ago they started complaining that Charlie Brown, that Christmas special, was offensive too, you know, because it was too Christian. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The angel said unto them fear not for behold, I bring you tidings of great joy which should be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior, which is Christ the lord. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I still cry when I see that. It never could be made today. By the way, any day I am expecting that PETA is going to lodge a complaint about Dr. Seuss' "The Grinch." After all, that green guy with the attitude didn't treat Max the dog very well. Now, the left are the worst types more or less because they claim not to be. They talk about tolerance and diversity and being your authentic self. I'm going to speak my truth. But what they really want is for you to bow down and worship at their altar of self-righteous political correctness. They want to control what you watch, what you eat, what you hear and yes, how you speak, and even as we saw during the Bush 41 funeral yesterday, how you pray. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DON LEMON, CNN HOST: I'll just point out at this moment, the Apostles Creed being recited, President Trump and the First Lady not reading. Everyone had the thing in their hand, but they're not -- what was that about, Sally? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, it's odd because, you know, he is the supposed religious person who has a spiritual advisor, Paula White, and he had been speaking, you know, pray at his inauguration and he has all these evangelicals around. So, I thought that was bizarre and yet he didn't even try to read it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: First of all, Trump is considered a very religious person? I don't know what she's reading. Sally Quinn, who is a journalist, who in her memoir described hexing three people, two of whom died, and she's going to demand that Trump recite a religious creed at a public ceremony or judge him? Let there no judgment. But again, this is the problem with the left, depending on the politics of the moment they go from being libertines to puritans. The once aggressive seculars suddenly become religious enforcers. And these are the same people who by the way applauded when prayer was driven out of public schools and who cheered when manger scenes were pulled from the public square. For ever crowing about how we need separation of church and state, a phrase found nowhere in any of our founding documents. My friend, today's left is blissfully unaware of how much they become caricatures of what they accuse conservatives of being. They claim to be tolerant. They are among the most rigid, intolerant people on the planet. They claim to be pro-choice. That only applies to abortion, maybe or gender. They claim to be for creative expression, but they are control freaks and monoliths. They really want to do is stifle and marginalize conservative voices whether they are on college campuses, in the workplace, in the U.S. military or yes, right here on cable T.V. And while they point the finger at Trump for being divisive, they are the ones working overtime to divide the country along lines of race, ethnicity, and sexual orientation, just to name a few. But above all, liberals have become aggressively boring and no fun at all. And that's THE ANGLE. Joining me now for reaction is attorney and RNC committeewoman from california, Harmeet Dhillon, Fox news contributor Raymond Arroyo, and CRO of DSPolitical Jennifer Holdsworth. First of all, I want everyone to know that this is a safe space here. You can -- we won't censor you like some of the liberals. Raymond, I want to start with you. There's a sense of fun and whimsy that seems to be missing in this whole political correctness moment that we've been living in for some time. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: The jokes are out the door. You can't kid and look, how do we get over difficult situations? How do we overcome and find connections with people we disagree with? We joke. We make fun of each other and ourselves. That is being pushed further and further out of society. You see it in some of the clips you played. You can't do a little racy or suggestive song. This was a way in the 1950s that people interacted. It was a way to suggest something without gratuitously hitting you over the head with it. Now, we are in a gratuitous age where you can't make the quiet sideswipe, the fun jokes on the side. Everything has got to be to be very plain, very black and white and frankly it's a lot uglier out there today. INGRAHAM: It's more divisive and not fun. Jennifer, this is what Jerry Seinfeld said a few years ago. He was on with Seth Meyers talking about what it's like to be on the comedy circuit. He's also said he will not perform on college campuses because talk about an un-fun place these days. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JERRY SEINFELD, COMEDIAN: I can imagine some people say, well, that's offensive to suggest that a gay person moves their hands in a flourishing motion and you now need to apologize. I mean, there is a creepy PC (ph) thing out there that really bothers me. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Jennifer. JENNIFER HOLDSWORTH, CRO, DSPOLITICAL: I don't think it's so much about political correctness as it is to just being sensitive of what might really hurt someone. And, you know, look, when we talk about, you know, Christmas songs, I wouldn't necessarily put "baby, it's cold outside" in the realm of Christmas songs. You know, when you talk about liberals -- INGRAHAM: Oh, even if it's not. HOLDSWORTH: -- criticizing, you know, the way -- INGRAHAM: Does it play it in June? HOLDSWORTH: -- the way President Trump, you know, praise. You know, this is a president who was sitting less than a foot away from another president who, you know, a lot of conservatives talked about being a Muslim for the last decade, as if there was something wrong with that. So, I think when we talk about turning the tide of the national conversation into something that's a little less offensive. It doesn't have to do with political correctness. I would like to see what conservatives would have said had it been President Obama who did not recite the Apostles Creed when the entire rest of the church did. INGRAHAM: One thing that's different here is that conservatives actually try to say we want to conserve the culture. We want to conserve that what makes us different is OK. It's okay to be different. It's OK to have different points of view. But what I'm trying to get to, Jennifer, and you didn't quite seem to understand what I'm saying, is that in this world of -- if you are offended, I can't say it. I can't even feel it for fear of losing my job, not getting a promotion, and not getting a benefit in the workplace. People are afraid to speak their minds. That is not liberal. That's scary. And that is censorious. That's what the left always considered conservative. Harmeet Dhillon. HARMEET DHILLON, RNC COMMITTEEWOMAN FOR CALIFORNIA: Absolutely, Laura. I mean, you know, conservatives are not in the business of critiquing how people pray. I just think that's crass and, you know, he prayed the way he felt comfortable doing. And it's not our business to critique that. But what I see on college campuses and workplaces where I do a lot of litigation is that people are constantly censoring themselves, walking around on eggshells. You know, young people are actually doing consent videos before they move to second base with a girl so that they don't get sued. And it's really sucking all the joy out of life -- INGRAHAM: And romance. DHILLON: And romance. And if I were a young person these days, I mean, I would be very stressed out and having to take all the drugs they take now because they're always worried about what the new rules are. HOLDSWORTH: I mean, are you saying that consent is sucking the joy out of romance? DHILLON: No, what I said was making a video to document the consent is sucking the joy out of interactions between the sexes. ARROYO: Fear of being dragged before a board or the fear of litigation keeps boys from asking girl out and vice versa in some cases because they don't know where the line is going to be. DHILLON: Presumption of guilt. Don't forget about Title IX, which puts all the boys who looked at a girl in the box for years after -- HOLDSWORTH: It's definitely a conversation to be had about due process and what we need to do on college campuses. But I think the consent is a completely different conversation. INGRAHAM: Raymond, you actually interviewed candidate Trump about his faith and going -- ARROYO: About prayer in particular. INGRAHAM: About prayer, but again, liberals criticizing how someone decides to pray in the moment. That is wild to me. I want to play what he said to you about his own prayer. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: When you pray, what do you pray for? DONALD TRUNP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I don't want to talk to you about that. I mean, I pray. It's very personal to me. I'm a person of belief. I certainly, you know, I pray for my family. I pray for our country. But I don't want to talk to you about that. I think that's very personal. ARROYO: OK, between you and God. TRUMP: It is between me and God, yes. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I like the fact that you want to talk about it. Really -- liberals are -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: I get trashed for wearing this cross by the way over my cloth. HOLDSWORTH: I never get trashed for wearing my cross. INGRAHAM: I do. Go to my twitter feed. You are a liberal. You can do whatever you want. ARROYO: With apologies to the jewelry choices ladies. The moment criticizing the man for not praying the Creed though or reciting it, first of all, you are dealing with the man who I think is new to faith. He's working his way through it and he's not ostentatious. But I would, Jennifer, but I would prefer someone -- I would rather a faithful pagan who follows -- protects religious freedom and advances basic morality in our government over a pious fraud who assaults both. (CROSSTALK) ARROYO: That's the difference that many faith filled people had with President Obama. It was the policy, not the man. DHILLON: But it's the secular humanist. They don't believe at themselves. (CROSSTALK) HOLDSWORTH: -- criticizing the way somebody prays and pointing out hypocrisy and conservatism. ARROYO: Why is quiet prayer a ((inaudible))? HOLDSWORTH: Liberals have been called godless for years when they have worshiped a variety of gods. INGRAHAM: What? HOLDSWORTH: And I think if you're -- INGRAHAM: That's a non sequitur. You are not arguing the point. The point is that liberals claim that they are pro- choice, be who you want to be, be your authentic self, my truth. Trump is praying the way he darn wants and he gets trashed by Don Lemon. Don Lemon used to be someone I actually respect. Don Lemon has gone so far over the line. God bless him. I don't know what's going on with him, but you are so obsessed with trashing Trump that you've got to trash him, you know, at the moment when everyone is honoring George Bush. I don't understand that. I think it speaks so poorly of where this culture is and I think it goes back to, Jennifer. People are truly just afraid. They are afraid. They are afraid to speak, afraid to feel. Now, if you hum along to "baby, it's cold outside," you might as well have raped somebody. I mean, honestly, it's gone way over board and it's, well, this is just not fun. There's no fun. Can you really have fun? I guess you can smoke pot, do edibles and then talk about how you might want to change your gender and that's kind of interesting, I guess, but you can't do much else. I guess play sports. Honestly, and the public life, it's very hard. Jerry Seinfeld is right. Humor is dead and that's why they go into political humor and they trash Trump. ARROY: Right, and are moving to a secular dogma, which no one really knows. It's -- Pope Benedict coined the phrase, dictatorship of relativism. I think we are here. It becomes its own dictator. INGRAHAM: All right guys. All right, thank you so much. And our next guess by the way joins us to expand on what we brought you in last night's ANGLE. Well, the Democrats claim to be, you know, they are the smart party. They are the science party, the intellectuals, all the troglodytes who voted for Trump, clinging for your guns and religion and all the deplorables. You just need to sit down, shut up and let the smart people run the country because things are very complicated. Last night we pointed that out to you and sadly the left and many of the GOP establishment smarts have been wrong on issue after issue for years. And today, well, they were just wrong on geography. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA: We can move forward with this. We have a responsibility, all of us to secure our borders. North, south, and coming in by plane on our coasts, three coasts, north, south, and west. And that's it. It's a responsibility we honor, but we do so by honoring our values as well. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Was she in REM cycle? Like what was that? Here now is former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain. Look, Herman, we all misspeak. I mean, OK, I've misspoken. It's not a bit, you know, I don't want to -- it's fun. Remember trying to have some fun, poke fun at yourselves and, you know, there's not three coasts, Herman. What coast are you on right now? HERMAN CAIN, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am on the east part of the nation. Allow me, Laura, for one moment. I want to respond to Jennifer, your previous guest -- INGRAHAM: She's right here. CAIN: before we get into our topic, OK. The constitution says freedom of religion which means also freedom to read and freedom to not read if you don't want to. I have been in a -- HOLDSWORTH: It also means freedom from religion, sir. CAIN: Allow me to speak, please. You had your chance to say what you wanted to say. I have been in a different religious setting than my normal setting and I didn't pretend to do everything that they did because I wasn't comfortable doing it. So I remained silent and I did read. Now, the liberals want to make a big deal out of that that the man didn't read. Freedom of religion means, excuse me for getting a little passionate about this, also means freedom to not read if you don't want to. Now, Laura, the compilation that you put together last night was so impressive to me and my folk that I wanted to reproduce that clip on my website, hermancain.com. It demonstrates without a question of a doubt how hypocritical that the Democrats are, and it demonstrates clearly, better than anything that I have ever seen, that they do believe that they are smarter than everybody else. This is why they are trying to destroy and change our culture from top to bottom. That's what they are trying to do. And you made that point very clearly by showing what they have said historically and what Senator Hirono had said. INGRAHAM: A lot of the Republicans have got -- yes, a lot of Republicans have screwed up along the way as well. CAIN: Exactly. And that's exactly -- INGRAHAM: I mean, of opening the -- China into the WTO, not worrying about the housing bubble, the housing credit. CAIN: Yes. INGRAHAM: I mean, Iraq was all going to work out in a couple of -- CAIN: On and on and on. INGRAHAM: -- none of that worked. Don Lemon said he wouldn't shake hands with Trump at the funeral. Is that a sign of openness or tolerance or, I mean again, Don Lemon is, you know, kind of a liberal guy, but he didn't want to shake and he wouldn't. If he were there, he wouldn't. CAIN: Laura, that is not a sign of tolerance. That is a sign of disdain and trying to enforce the liberal doctrine of you conform the way we want you to conform or we are going to try and intimidate and ostracize you. That's what Don Lemon is talking about. They were at a funeral. INGRAHAM: All right, I got to get to my Apostle's Creed here. I've got to get to my Apostle's Creed and I think I got to go to confession after this segment. CAIN: They were at a funeral. INGRAHAM: All right, thanks so much, Herman. And ahead, while the resistance cheers the Mueller probe, it may have inadvertently ensnared former Clinton and Obama aides. Professor Jonathan Turley and Byron York, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. JIM JORDAN (R), OHIO: Do you see how someone could view the context of what she did, set up a private system, she alone controlled it. She kept everything on it. We now know from Ms. Abedin's deposition that they did it for that very reason. And when they got caught, they deleted what they had and they scrubbed their devices. Is that part of the context in evaluating this decision? JAMES COMEY, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR: Sure, sure. And understand what inferences can be drawn from that collection of facts, of course. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What inferences could be drawn? BleachBit. Former FBI director Jim Comey will be back on the Hill tomorrow and there are some double standards at play, namely when it was revealed in e-mail the Clinton aides Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills had likely lied to the Fbi about their knowledge of her private server. Why the heck weren't they punished? This question has new resonance in the wake of General Flynn's life being turned upside down on account of similar transgressions, lying, a 1001 violation. So might Comey face questions about that double standard? Here with us is Byron York, "Washington Examiner" correspondent and Fox News contributor. Byron, you just wrote a great piece about a set of questions that Comey should grapple with, be asked and have to answer, number of which is? BYRON YORK, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Michael Flynn. What did FBI agents think when they interviewed Michael Flynn on January 24, 2017, just four days into the administration. You remember, they interviewed him about that wiretapped phone call he had had during the transition with the Russian ambassador. And why did they go to the -- why did the FBI go to the White House? And did really, as we have heard that Comey has said, that the FBI agents believed that Flynn was not lying. INGRAHAM: Including Peter Strzok who was there. YORK: Including Peter Strzok. So, what did the FBI agents really say about this? Has Comey actually read the transcript of these conversations? INGRAHAM: Or (inaudible). YORK: Absolutely. And did Comey believe that Michael Flynn was going to face a false statement charge because members of Congress say that Comey told them back then that he did not expect Michael Flynn to be indicted. INGRAHAM: So, the big sentencing memos are going to come out looks like on Friday, both Manafort and Cohen. Looks like both are coming down. It's going to be a big, big news night tomorrow. What do you expect if anything Comey behind closed doors -- we'll get the transcript on Saturday with what he says -- what light will he shed on this question that we posed at the top? How did Hillary's aides seem to always get away in the end? They get away with this stuff in the end. YORK: Well, he's been questioned about stuff like this before because as you remember, it was over the July 4th holiday in 2016 that they questioned her. And then almost instantly they exonerated her of making any false statements. INGRAHAM: And he wasn't there during the questioning. YORK: No, but it's as if the FBI didn't even check her testimony. And we later learned that they had been writing this exoneration memo for months before they questioned her and before they questioned a lot of other key figures. And of course they handed out immunity like candy. On the other hand, Comey has been asked these questions before and there were some Republicans who were not happy with Comey being called to be questioned tomorrow. INGRAHAM: But Strzok was the agent that interviewed Mills and Abedin, correct? YORK: Correct. INGRAHAM: He also interviewed Michael Flynn. YORK: Yes. INGRAHAM: And he's testified on Capitol Hill. So what if they gotten on that from him? YORK: Well, they didn't -- he didn't talk about the Flynn case to them because the FBI and everybody associated with has said, well, it's an ongoing criminal investigation. I'm sorry we can't talk about it. Well, Flynn has already pleaded guilty. And Charles Grassley of the Senate Judiciary Committee has been trying to get information on that ground, on that basis, saying well, look, he's already pleaded guilty. Well, now, by the 18th of December, just a few days from now, he's going to get sentenced and it's really all going to be -- INGRAHAM: But Byron, wasn't Michael Flynn out of the country when he was wiretapped or he was surveilled -- they listened -- YORK: Right. It was the Russian ambassador. INGRAHAM: Right. So it's not wiretapped. They are allowed to do that under U.S. surveillance policies. No problem. But then his name was unmasked. You wrote about this as well. YORK: This was something that Devin Nunes got a lot of criticism for bringing up, but the point is we do wiretap. We never say this. But we wiretapped top Russian officials. We knew what was being said. But then you think who's on the other end of that conversation? And that's what was so- called unmasked and -- INGRAHAM: Why does Susan Rice's name come up frequently? YORK: Because she was involved in a lot of the unmaskings and the questions Republicans asked -- INGRAHAM: At the National Security Council. YORK: -- and never got an answer to, as why was it so necessary to learn these people's names? INGRAHAM: Byron York, we appreciate it. We can't wait -- I mean, Christmas is early. We're getting all these things. Big night tomorrow night. And while the resistance has -- (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO, FOX NEWS SENIOR JUDICIAL ANALYST: This is not strictly speaking a Bob Mueller investigation. This is an example of where he discovers something. His FBI agents learn something about Podesta's brother in the course of interrogating witnesses. They are looking at whether or not the Podesta firm in conjunction with the Manafort firm did lobbying for political groups in the Ukraine and did not tell the federal government. This is the first time that the Democrats or any Democrat is arguably within the ambit of something that Bob Mueller does. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, while the resistance has been cheering its every move, a referral from the Mueller probe involving former Obama and Clinton aides is now heating up with an increased focus on Clinton-linked Washington insider Tony Podesta and former Obama White House counsel Greg Craig. Here to help us make sense of all of these players, constitutional law professor, FOX News contributor Jonathan Turley. Professor, assuming this is true, why shouldn't we be just as critical of this in terms of an overreach by Mueller as we were when the other parties were involved? JONATHAN TURLEY, GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY LAW PROFESSOR: That's a valid point. These violations in terms of registering as foreign agents use to occur rather regularly. It's a rather regular practice in Washington. People would mix these things, they'd get caught on them. They would often retroactively apply for these. They generally were not viewed as strong criminal cases. But they went after people like Mueller and others for the failure to register for these types of issues. And now it looks like they are proceeding against people like Podesta. What's interesting about Podesta is -- INGRAHAM: He was offered immunity, wasn't he? TURLEY: That's right. He wasn't given transactional, but he was offered immunity. INGRAHAM: More limited. TURLEY: That's right. And since then, of course, Manafort did speak with them a great deal. And so there is a possibility that Manafort did drop a dime on people like Podesta. INGRAHAM: And I think for Mueller's case, if he's laying out some case against some member of the Trump circle, if he seems to be a little bit more evenhanded and how he kind of throws out the judgment or the facts, it will be better for the overall credibility of the report, perhaps? TURLEY: I think it will be. But the problem is, if this is how it ends, it's going to be rather underwhelming. This is like going around and shooting the wounded. These are not significant crimes. They may be perfectly appropriate to proceed for, and certainly to refer, but this is not what we've all been waiting for. Now, maybe he'll prove to be that Agatha Christie prosecutor and in the final scene we find out all the characters, the things they didn't tell us before. But if not, there's going to be a lot of disappointed folks in this town. INGRAHAM: If it comes down to Farah, the foreign agent. TURLEY: That's right, or Corsi and Stone, that's going to be rather -- INGRAHAM: Again, where's the collusion? Where's the work between the Trump circle and Russia to throw the election, or to get Hillary and release the emails? This is a long process. Is an ending, do you think? TURLEY: I think it is ending. But we have all of these speaking indictments that have been filed. None of them suggest that there's any connection, any knowing involvement with Russians by top Trump officials thus far that would sustain this type of collusion conspiracy that people are talking about. Maybe he's holding it for the end, but we haven't seen it so far. INGRAHAM: Bill Barr's name was out there today as perhaps Trump's pick to be attorney general, a couple other names are out there, Chris Christie and a few others. What about Bill Barr, former attorney general himself for a short period of time? TURLEY: Bill would be just an absolutely brilliant choice. He is a go by the book guy. He is as steady as a rock. I represented him during the Clinton impeachment with a bunch of other former attorney generals. In fact one time I got a call from him at 40,000 feet in his plane heading to Europe to tell me he spotted a typo in one of our briefs. INGRAHAM: Oh, no. TURLEY: Yes, I spent years in therapy over that. That's the worst moment. INGRAHAM: So he's a stickler for details. TURLEY: Exactly. He's actually one of the best lawyers I've ever encountered, which really puts the pressure on when you represent him. But he would be ideal. And he would get through the Senate very, very easily. He would bring instant credibility. You could not pick a better guide this moment for that job. INGRAHAM: And he already was once confirmed. They are citing things he said about Comey. We'll play just a quick snippet. This is from May of 2017. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BILL BARR, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL: He crossed a basic line back in July, fundamental line in the department, which is that investigations are supervised and directed by the lawyers, the prosecutors at the department, not the agents. And what is of concern and certainly what appears to have concerned the administration was not so much that transgression but his steadfast refusal to acknowledge that he had transgressed those limits on his power. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Not shy about talking about -- TURLEY: It's hard to imagine anyone would object with anything he just said. The Democrats have been saying that. The Republicans have been saying that. It's the one point upon which there is universal agreement is that Comey overstepped his bounds. That was in the Rosenstein memo. Rosenstein quoted Democratic and Republican appointees saying that what he did bordered on the horrific. So the point that you should really get out of that is really the essence of Barr. He was loved by agents at the Justice Department. INGRAHAM: Boy, do they need that now. TURLEY: Yes. And he's just this rock-solid guy who views these things with clarity. He speaks very directly to them. There's no effort on his part to spin ever. He just talks directly to the issue. Comey was outside the navigational beacons, and he said that. INGRAHAM: And he and Comey couldn't be different. Bill is someone who doesn't want the credit. He doesn't need to get the credit. But steadfast and clear, and I would not want to debate him on any legal issue. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: I'm glad you were representing him and not I. Jonathan Turley, thanks so much. And when you hear the term deep state, you might think it refers to topics like the ones we just discussed. but what it extends to government climate reports, too? An analyst digs in. next. INGRAHAM: When the government puts out reports, it does give it an aura of credibility, right? That's exactly how the latest National Climate Assessment was treated, when newsrooms flew into a frenzy about the looming apocalypse. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is criminal really when you get down to it. It is tragic that we have a president who at this critical moment chooses not to be a firefighter but to be an arson. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We've got kids. We don't want to be slowly burned to death on our own planet here. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Climate change could kill thousands of Americans and cost the U.S. economy hundreds of billions of dollars. We are just suggesting, Mr. President, if you don't want to believe science, maybe just start with climatekids.nasa.gov. It's a pretty easy read. It's fun. There are pictures. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's right, Anderson. You are smarter than everyone else. Anyone scared yet? What if we were to tell you that same government policy paper was funded with the help of progressive climate alarmists like billionaires Tom Steyer and Mike Bloomberg? Here now, the man who uncovered the funding, Chuck DeVore of the Texas Public Policy Center. Chuck, tell us a bit about how you were able to find out who funded this and what their climate agenda may be. CHUCK DEVORE, VICE PRESIDENT, TEXAS PUBLIC POLICY FOUNDATION: That's a great question. First of all, I owe a lot to Nick Loris over at the Heritage Foundation because he did a quick critique on exactly the point that you showed, the huge hit to the economy and thousands of people dying. That's what the media focused on. That was taken from one study, funded unfortunately by federal government tax dollars, but also Michael Bloomberg and Tom Steyer. And so he mentioned that. And then I dug into it some more. And I found out, Laura, was one of the main authors of the report, Professor Rising (ph) from Berkeley, this guy is a veritable basket case. On his blog, he talks about quote, eliminating the president. On his blog, he talked about how he's concerned about the rise of religious extremism in the United States and in the Middle East, I guess equating guys like me with Al Qaeda and ISIS, which is, I don't know, a little kooky if you asked me. He's one of the main authors of the report. And the reason why they are doing this, of course, is that they need to whip people up into fear so that we can hand over our sovereignty, hand over our autonomy, to these people who are better than us and smarter than us. INGRAHAM: Smarter. Go back to my ANGLE. I did an ANGLE last night about how the left loves to portray itself as the smart set. They know better than the little people. You may like to fill your truck up with diesel, but guess what, it's all going to be better under the new way of doing commerce and fueling vehicles, and you've just got to listen to us. We'll give the tax incentives to the, electric cars and so forth. And you see what's happening in France. People are just rejecting it. There's a lot going on in France beyond that, but that's part of this. It costs real money, and people don't want to open up their wallets. DEVORE: It does. And it hits the middle class the most. The thing that's amazing about France's is gas there is about $7.06 a gallon, and almost half of that as taxes, so a lot more than here in America. But what they were rioting over, Laura, was just a 25-cent a gallon increase in gas tax and about a 10 cent a gallon in diesel. The U.N. climate expert who wants to of course transfer a lot of our wealth to corrupt third world countries, he estimates that in 12 years we are going to need a carbon tax that's the equivalent of about $49 a gallon for fuel. You think there's riots in France now over 25 cents, imagine what happens with $49 a gallon. INGRAHAM: By the way, there is another brainiac whose words we must share with our viewers, Chuck, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER: I wish that I could be the Terminator in real life to be able to travel back in time and to stop all fossil fuels when they were discovered. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: First of all, send me a memo when he's going to drop the "Terminator" references. It's more like "Kindergarten Cop," it's a climate cop. He should do a whole new sequel to that, Chuck. DEVORE: Just think about what he said. If he could travel back in time and stop all fossil fuels, it's like, are you kidding me? So stop the industrial revolution in its tracks around 1700? We would be living in abject poverty and misery right now if that were to happen, which I guess it's kind of like "The Terminator" movies, right? Wasn't that some sort of post-apocalyptic dystopia? INGRAHAM: Yes, yes. And Chuck, how would he get on the G-4 to the next film festival? That's what I want to say. DEVORE: Exactly. INGRAHAM: Chuck, thanks so much. This leads us to our next question. Some of the most influential leaders in the Democratic Party have lied to you about science for decades. So why are we still listening to them? Here to debate this is radio host, former Chuck Schumer aide Chris Hahn. All right, Chris, I know you just got off your global express jet. But "The Federalist's" David Harsanyi wrote a great piece today documenting the less than stellar track record of some of the climate alarmists. I want to start with this one. Back In 1970, Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that, quote, "civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken." So what happened? He was the soothsayer of the time. CHRIS HAHN, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Yes, you know, look, major events don't happen on a schedule, right? Climate change is real. It is happening. We have seen evidence of it. INGRAHAM: It's always happened. HAHN: Just this year between the major storms, the California wildfires, it is a problem that we should be addressing. And 97 percent of scientists who study this agree that this is a problem that is manmade, caused by our using of fossil fuels, especially coal, and it is time for us to wake up and all speak with one voice. This should not be a political debate whether or not it's real or not. It should be a debate about how we solve the problem. Instead, we still have a president of the United States who said this isn't even a real problem. This is a real problem. It needs a real solution. INGRAHAM: Do you have a problem, though, Chris? Chris, do you have a problem, though, I think we have a lot of problems that are resulting in cataclysmic issues happening to our environment. I am a conservationist, so I want to conserve the beauty that we have. And we have to have business. That's where I come down. I'm not a scientist. I don't pretend to be one on TV. But it is interesting, going back to judging. In retrospect, we can see who is a pretty good prognosticator and who wasn't such a good prognosticator. So let's try this one. This is back in 1977. The was Barack Obama's future science czar John Holdren predicting that global warming could lead to the deaths of about 1 billion starving people by 2020. We have about 13 months left, so what happened? There is another recent prediction, by the way, that I have to get to. Al Gore, he proclaimed in 2006 in that "Inconvenient Truth" film that sea level would rise 20 feet, quote, in the near future. Was that just when he stepped into the Atlantic? Sorry. But according to scientists, sea level rose about three inches between 93 and 2017. Up next, we lost Chris on the satellite. This is live TV, it's what happens. Chris, we didn't do it on purpose. It was the climate. Lawsuit madness. A new federal complaint accusing the state of Rhode Island for failing to provide students with the skills they need. I'm going to talk to the lead lawyer in the case next. INGRAHAM: The NYPD is investigating a bomb threat near CNN's New York City bureau in Columbus Circle. Due to the threat, the office has been evacuated. Right now, CNN is airing taped programming due to the disruption. And, my friends, we are going to keep following this in this segment, and Raymond Arroyo will join us. Again, the temperature is got to be brought down in these conversations. And politics should be debated and aggressively so, but not violence. And our thoughts are with our friends over at CNN. We are competitors in cable, but we are thinking of you and hoping everyone is OK. We will continue to monitor this and bring you the updates throughout this hour. Now, another topic, have lawsuits gone too far in the United States? It's a question was asked before, and it's when we keep debating this. We need lawsuit reform. We have too many people suing too many people. It's killing business, killing initiative, loser should pay. But maybe we need a fresh look at all this. Check this out. Public school students and parents are suing Rhode Island's governor and other educational officials in federal court, saying that the state failed to prepare young people to fully participate in civic life. That's interesting. Here now, lead counsel in the case, Michael Rebell of Columbia's Teachers College in New York. Michael, thanks much for being here tonight. You recently remarked that, quote, we are living in troubled times. Our democratic institutions are being challenged like never before. It's a provocative statement, but what makes these times more troubled than five years ago, we had all these riots in St. Louis and we had Baltimore. We had the Freddie Gray, we had Michael Brown, we had Trayvon Martin. So is it all Trump? MICHAEL REBELL, COOK VERSUS RAIMONDO LEAD COUNSEL: I'd like to look back to the era of George H. W. Bush that we were thinking about yesterday. It seemed like a century ago when people could engage in civic conversation, people from different political perspectives, and try to work things out. Now our whole situation is totally polarized. People scream at each other. They don't think. They don't talk. I think it is a very troubled time, and it is different from I think virtually any other era in American history. But another problem we have got here, Laura, our founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson, Sam Adams, you go back to any of them, they said that this experiment in mass democracy that they were implementing, first time in human history, could only survive if we had an educated citizenry. And that's been a theme throughout American history. INGRAHAM: So, OK, the soliloquy is fascinating. REBELL: OK. INGRAHAM: It's fascinating. Dan Henninger wrote a great piece, by the way, in "The Wall Street Journal" today, don't blame Trump for a corrosive culture. Nice try. But the culture has been corroding for decades. And every time conservatives say we've got to look at this cultural equation, both in politics and entertainment industry, everything is coarsened, they are always laughed at and they're called a bunch of rubes. And you want to circumscribe creative expression. So the idea that Trump brought in the era of coarseness which is what many on the left are trying to bamboozle us with is patently ridiculous. REBELL: Listen, we are not saying that Trump brought this in. I trace in my book that I wrote on the subject the decline in the schools taking responsibility for seriously preparing kids for citizenship. It goes back 50 or 60 years. I think it's gotten worse now. INGRAHAM: But isn't that a little difficult for public school teachers especially today, professor, they are competing with a lot. They are competing with broken families. I have two educators in my family, one at a public school, one at a private school, different political backgrounds, both of them. But what I hear and have heard over the years is this is really tough. We have in some cases 17 languages spoken in public schools over northern Virginia. Teachers are trying to do their best, but teachers aren't parents. We have a fundamental problem with a breakdown across societal lines. And it's not racial and it's not ethnic. It's in the home. REBELL: Look, that's a whole other area. Laura, we could get into that, I'm sure, for another half-hour. But the point is, only one-third of the American population even knows what the separation of powers is. Only 23 percent of our students on the latest national tests were proficient in civics. I mean, our democracy cannot survive if two-thirds of the people can't name the three branches of government. The schools do have a responsibility for this. INGRAHAM: We have heard this for some time, which is why you should be for public school choice and choice in education, which is what conservatives have been lobbying for years. Take the monopoly from a public school's away from the poor kids and opened it up to competition. Professor, we've got breaking news in New York tonight with a new threat against CNN. Sorry, we have to cut that short. We will be right back. The very latest on this apparent bomb threat outside of CNN. Again, our thoughts are with our friends over the other network. We'll bring you the latest. Stay there. INGRAHAM: CNN has gone to taped programming after a phoned in bomb threat of some sort of evacuated the building. Raymond, we were talking about how things are too hot, and there's nothing for people to hold onto. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: When the world starts to shift, crazy people react in crazy ways. We set that on October 24th when those pipe bombs were disseminated at CNN and other media outlets. We pray this is nothing like that. INGRAHAM: Cesar Sayoc, nut bag who was with his weird van. People have got to understand, when individuals who are already on the edge feel like - - got to take the temperature down. And that's a good lesson from George H.W. Bush. Bring it all down a little bit. We still have an aggressive debate. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team, take it from here. All the latest developments. Shannon? Load-Date: December 7, 2018 End of Document John Solomon: FBI E-mail Chain May Provide Most Damning Evidence of FISA Abuses Yet; Mueller Files Sentencing Memo for Flynn; The Granddaughter of President George H.W. 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HANNITY: All right. Tucker, thank you. All right. Welcome to HANNITY. Tonight, we have major breaking news. "The Hill's" John Solomon tonight has just uncovered smoking gun new evidence of FISA abuse committed at the highest levels of James Comey's FBI including a damning e-mail chain. Coming up, we are going to show you the damning new discoveries. Also tonight, the Mueller witch-hunt is apparently winding down. The mainstream media is praying, hard, for the bombshell that they're not getting. And in just moments, we are going to tell you everything you need to know about the special counsel's brand new report on Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. They are going back to the 1600, 1700s. I'll explain. And an American hero's life was ruined over a process crime? While many top Democrats, they got away scot-free with much worse. Tonight, we'll show you some disgusting remarks from a prominent senator we were just talking about that thinks we the people are pretty stupid. And later, we'll bring you the latest chapter in the war on Christmas -- get this -- featuring a far left pastor putting the Baby Jesus in a cage to protest President Trump. Unbelievable. And we'll play a powerful tribute to President George Herbert Walker Bush. Stay tuned. We begin with our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Little thing about me, I grew up in a house 50 by 100 lot, surrounded by law enforcement everywhere. My mom was a prison guard for 25 years. My father, he was a family court probation officer. Many, many cousins were on the New York police department. And my two relatives that made it to the FBI, they were considered deity. Not kidding. But tonight, I'm shocked and frankly saddened by what is corruption and abuse of power at the very top of America's most trusted institutions. Now, breaking tonight, "The Hill's" John Solomon has yet -- just dropped yet another bombshell on James Comey's FBI. And according to "The Hill" and his report, newly unearthed e-mails show that top DOJ, FBI officials that they engaged in a willful and organized effort to defraud a FISA court judge prior to the 2016 election. Now, we have talked about this but we never had these e-mails. This all surrounds the FISA warrant application and the subsequent renewal applications of Trump campaign associate Carter Page. According to those newly uncovered e-mails, we now know the basis for this warrant was the Clinton bought and paid for dirty dossier. Remember the bulk of evidence. Now, James Comey, along with other top DOJ officials and FBI officials knew the evidence presented in the dossier was shady at best. This is what Solomon has uncovered tonight. The e-mail exchanges show that the FBI were aware before they secured the now infamous warrant that there were intelligent community concerns about the reliability of the main evidence used to support it. That being the Hillary Clinton, Christopher Steele Russian dossier. And according to Solomon, the FBI was fully aware that Steele was, quote: had contacts with news media reporters before the FISA warrant was even secured. Now, remember, the FBI attempted to bolster its FISA application. Remember they used what we call circular reporting, Yahoo News. By the way, they knew the source was Christopher Steele. So, it's really just one source but they like to create the impression for the court that there is multiple sources. No, that's circular reporting. So, to say recap, the FBI under President Obama, they got a warrant to spy on Trump campaign associate Carter Page at the height of the 2016 election. In order to achieve this feat, well, they had presented the FISA court judge with evidence that we now know that the FBI knew was sketchy and knew was not verified and they themselves had doubt about it ever being true. Now, they knew the evidence was bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton, that was withheld from the FISA court judges. And the evidence was bolstered with the circular media reporting that the FBI knew Christopher Steele was behind. But, as we now know, that's not how so-called evidence was presented to the FISA court. So, tonight, the smoking gun evidence that the leadership under FBI committed a complete and total fraud on the FISA courts by presenting the court Hillary's bought and paid Russian dossier as real intelligence and they hid the fact that the other evidence was nothing more than circular reporting. They knew it all. The e-mail chain shows it all. Now, the evidence shows a serious miscarriage of justice, a serious abuse of power. It should shock every American, especially in light of yesterday's news. And this Friday, James Comey will testify before the House Judiciary Committee. Hopefully, he will be held accountable. Now, we did reach out to the FBI and James Comey for comment, have yet to receive a response. John Solomon will join us with more on devastating new report in a minute. But, first, we do turn to the mainstream media's obsession of the week once again featuring Robert Mueller's partisan witch-hunt and special counsel memo on Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, well, many in the press are yet again predicting an end to the Trump presidency. It's going on for two years. It hasn't happened yet. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going to tell you one thing I take away, there's about a size 16 shoe going to drop here. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My takeaway was that Bob Mueller and his people have a substantial case going here. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Anyone who is in Flynn's orbit either before those -- the election, during the transition and few weeks that Flynn is the national security advisor is worried. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Here in Trump land tonight, and these documents come down, how do you feel? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm wigging out. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The fact that he is saying senior government leaders should be held to the highest standards, I would be a little nervous if I were the people involved in the obstruction of justice investigation, starting, of course, with the president of the United States. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Despite the hysteria, predictable hysteria, you just saw the latest Mueller memo does not contain any Watergate-like revelations, not even close. Here are the facts: the Mueller memo makes references to Lieutenant General Flynn violating -- this is how deep they had to dig here -- violating the Logan Act. The Logan Act is an archaic law that was passed, get this, in 1799 and it was only responsible for two indictments in the 1800s. Now, he was also allegedly been investigated for violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act or FARA, as it's called, which was used only seven times since it became law in 1966. This is how -- it's all in that memo that we had last night. This is how desperate and how pathetic Robert Mueller is. Now, remember, Lieutenant General Flynn was first a victim of a crime himself because they knew nothing about General Flynn except that they illegally surveilled him, illegally unmasked him. They put aside the -- what we now call you are supposed to do mitigating. They're supposed to literally, once an American is on the line, you are not supposed to identify them. And then raw intelligence on General Flynn was leaked. And that illegally leaked information was then used against him by team Mueller. Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, well, he pled guilty to a process crime. That's true. You can't get him on any underlying crimes about collusion with Russia and lying to Mueller's investigators neither Comey didn't think he lied, McCabe didn't think he lied and Peter Strzok who interviewed him, he never thought Lieutenant General Flynn was lying. He pleaded guilty only after he had legal bills that were wrecking his finances, forcing him to sell his family home, nearly going bankrupt. And in all likelihood, he was told investigators would go after his son who he did business with. So, he fell on the sword in that case. Is that what justice in America is supposed to look like to you? What about Mr. Mueller? Are you happy about this? Is this what we get after your 567-day investigation? This guy served his country 33 years, five years in combat. According to the memo, Flynn agreed to cooperate with the Mueller investigation but the details of that cooperation are redacted. However, the memo does detail zero evidence of collusion, none, zero once again. And while an American military hero's life has been wrecked for a process crime, we'll take a look at those on the left. Do you see those people there? Well, seemingly will never be prosecuted for their lying. Long time Clinton aide Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin -- remember, they lied to the FBI about Hillary Clinton's private e-mail system. DOJ official Bruce Ohr or Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson likely lied. How do we know? Because they gave completely contradictory testimony. Then we have dirty dossier author Christopher Steele, he was fired from the FBI for lying. That didn't stop him from trying to work with Bruce Ohr and feed special counsel Mueller more of his phony lies in the course of this investigation. James Clapper lied under oath about the national surveillance program. So, too, did John Brennan as he also likely lied about -- under oath about leaking. And we know James Comey lied to Congress about when he wrote the report exonerating Clinton and Comey's second in command Andrew McCabe was fired because of a long pattern of lying. Don't forget Lois Lerner lied to investigators about the IRS scandal. Obama's A.G. Loretta Lynch lied about talking to anyone on the Clinton campaign about the FBI's Clinton probe. And another Obama A.G. Eric Holder lied under oath on multiple occasions. But rest assured, Robert Mueller can now sleep well at night after taking down a decorated military hero who dedicated his entire adult life to public service, 33 years serving his country, five of those years in the field of battle. Great job, Mr. Mueller. I'm sure America is feeling a lot safer tonight now that lieutenant general Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI when the FBI never thought he lied. Now, later this week, by Friday, Mueller is expected to file new memos on Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort who have also been accused of violating their plea deal. Now, still the only thing in common with Flynn, Manafort and Cohen is that their cases similarly have absolutely nothing to do with Trump-Russia collusion, period. We are dealing with taxi medallions and loan applications and taxes from back in 2007. And we'll have a lot more later on the show with that. But, first, with the details from his breaking news report is "The Hill's" John Solomon. All right. Let's start at the beginning here. Because we have talked a lot about these issues but tonight's news is different, because we have now discovered a long e-mail chain. Is that a proper way to characterize it? JOHN SOLOMON, THE HILL INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Yes. That's how it's been described to me. That's correct, Sean. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Just to get it set up, whose names are on this e-mail chain? SOLOMON: Well, I'm told that James Comey is one of them, that there are people from the national security division of the Justice Department and that there are key players that were the obvious people involved in the FBI. I don't have their names, working at various points on the Russia investigation. So, it's a large group of people trying to get ready to get this FISA warrant submitted to the court and there are two or three very important revelations. One is that James Comey is involved in discussions. Two, there is mention in these e-mails that the intelligence community, possibly the NSA or another agency, had concerns about the quality of the intelligence in the Steele dossier. And, three, that there were pretty significant worries, concerns that Christopher Steele had already begun talking to the news media. This is before they filed a FISA warrant, before they fire him. If all those things are true, if the FBI had not corroborated and there were concerns about the Steele dossier, if they knew that Steele had talked to Yahoo News and then Yahoo News has used as a corroborating piece of evidence for the dossier, these are serious issues that would be misleading the court with this information by portraying it as something more solid than it is. And, you know, we learned all about this from two appearances on Fox News over the holiday week. Devin Nunes showed up on Maria Bartiromo's show and your show and he said, hey, I kind of amended my request for the declassification. No one followed up. So, we started of requesting questions and we followed up there is e-mail trail and it may be some of the more damning and belated produced evidence that may suggest wrongdoing at the FBI. HANNITY: Let's go through this slowly. SOLOMON: Sure. HANNITY: We have evidence that you have uncovered, e-mail chains from these people at the FBI and DOJ that are at the top levels. SOLOMON: Right. HANNITY: And what we now know is that they knew that this was not verified, this dossier. They knew that -- they knew where it came from, that Hillary had paid for it, they never took the time to verify it themselves. SOLOMON: Right. HANNITY: And rather than do their due diligence, they went along and just decided that they wanted to get the FISA warrant and they committed what is ultimately a conscious fraud on the court. Is that a fair question? SOLOMON: I think that's the question and allegation that has to be further investigated. Until we see the actual language of this e-mail, I don't want to pass judgment. I can tell you people who have seen it or been involved with that e-mail say directly it's amongst the most damning evidence of wrongdoing by the FBI. If those people see it, and if Devin Nunes thought it was important to bother the evidence and ask him to declassify this among the other documents, I think we should assume it's a very important piece of evidence. HANNITY: So, how could anybody justify not telling the court key pieces of information? Before -- you know, we have a quote of Rod Rosenstein, it was back in may when he said when you are talking about a FISA, you know, you have a career of law enforcement official. And they put their signature, that's the full faith and credibility that they are putting behind that warrant. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: But they never verified it and now we know that they even suspected themselves that none of it was true in many ways. But it never stopped them because their desire to get that warrant far exceeded a desire to do it in a -- use the proper process and processes and do due diligence and they wanted it more than they wanted to follow the law. And they purposefully kept information that is pertinent from the judges. That's fair, right? SOLOMON: Yes. I think that's definitely -- I think that is now not in dispute anymore. Let's think about what we know, Sean, for sure indisputable. The core evidence for the FISA warrant, that's Andy McCabe's description. Without it, we would not have pursued the FISA warrant, came from a product paid for by Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party to try to destroy Donald Trump in the final months of the election. We know that the people who handle that evidence prepared and tried to rush it through the FBI to the court were two agents who on their own said they wanted to stop Donald Trump from becoming president. We know the person who created the dossier doesn't stand by it. He says he knew it was uncorroborated intelligence when he submitted it and he himself despise Donald Trump. And despite all that, and now the NSA or some other intelligence community agency having concerns about the dossier, and the FBI knowing the journalists they were going to use corroborating -- HANNITY: Last question -- SOLOMON: -- all of that, all of that now is not disputed and we think this is a good product. I think that's the question that we need to have answered. Why did this move forward with all of these flaws? HANNITY: These just aren't flaws. They knew it was fraudulent and their desire to get Trump I would argue far exceeds it by other evidence. So, now, the question is the president before the election talked about unredacting and releasing the FISA application. SOLOMON: Right. HANNITY: That has not happened yet. "Gang of Eight" information, that has not happened yet. The 302s with Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele, that has not happened yet. SOLOMON: Right. HANNITY: And the president recently said, well, I might do it at the appropriate time if this is the fight that the Democrats in Congress want to have. But this is the fourth bucket as we call it that Devin Nunes was talking about that everybody knew. SOLOMON: Right. HANNITY: Everybody knew this was phony -- this basically they created and fabricated a lie at worst, a story to the court and withheld exculpatory information that would have prevented any judge from ever granting a FISA warrant. Why won't the president release it? SOLOMON: So I think his lawyers and he have come up with a prudent concept. My reporting indicates that he is still as committed as ever to releasing these documents. But, listen, the first thing that will vindicate the president is if Robert Mueller finishes his investigation. The president is not charged with any crimes, right? He wants to get this over with. He is fearful and his lawyers are fearful if he releases the documents before then, he will be accused of tampering or trying to sway the investigation at the last minute. It's on a wind down. Let it wind down is what the president and his lawyers I think are thinking, according to my reporting. And then we can he have this debate about how this thing originated and all the flaws that occurred and try to make sure it doesn't happen again to some other person in the future. I think that's the process he is following. HANNITY: John Solomon, great reporting. Thank you. SOLOMON: Thank you, Sean. HANNITY: This is huge. We'll have more on this later in the show. All right. Yesterday during a conference in Washington, Democratic Senator Mazie Hirono explaining why Democrats have a hard time connecting with voters. They're just too smart. We'll get to that in a minute. But, first, joining us is former speaker of the House, author of the bestseller "Trump's America: The Truth About Our Nation's Great Comeback", Newt Gingrich. All right. When you read this thing on General Flynn, we find out, OK, that there are only two known instances in which individuals have been indicted for violating the Logan Act, the last of which came at 1853. And neither indictment resulted in conviction. And the other one is mentioned is the FARA law and we know that the DOJ issued a report that tallied all the prosecutions under FARA since 1966. That would be seven cases with one conviction. Is this how deep we go to get a guy that served 33 years in the military, that the FBI didn't believe was lying? NEWT GINGRICH (R), FORMER SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Sure. I mean, look. You have to understand Mueller is not involved in an investigation. Mueller has a Trump destruction project. He brought on a team, all of them dedicated to destroying Trump. They have done everything they could to destroy Trump. And part of that technique, which, frankly, Sidney Powell described brilliantly in her book, "License to Lie", about the Justice Department. Part of that technique is you throw the kitchen sink. You basically threaten somebody and say I'm going to bankrupt you, I'm going to put your son in jail, I am going to charge with you so many different crimes you will never get out from under it. Now would you like to talk? And when you have the full power of the federal government against you, it's pretty tough not to try to find a way to get him off your back. It has nothing to do with the truth. It has nothing to do with justice. And, Mueller, I think, in a really sad -- historians some day will comment that this was one of the most extraordinary efforts to undo the will of the American people by an established bureaucracy and its establishment friends that we have seen in all of American history. I want to make one point just to put this in context. Donald Trump after 92 percent negative coverage for two years, 92 percent negative coverage for two years is somewhere between 44 and 48 percent approval, depending on the poll. Ronald Reagan about this point in 1983 was at 35 percent. The fact is that Macron, the wonder boy of France, is now down to 25 or 26 percent and just had the worst riots in Paris in 50 years. So, the whole notion that Mueller is now the person who is going to go out and save America by destroying the president, I think is an anti constitutional effort by the organized left. HANNITY: So, John Solomon just breaks this sorry. Now, we knew they didn't verify the dossier and it was not corroborated, which is part of their protocol and also part of the law. But now we see an e-mail chain where they knew it had massive credibility problems. This is what he discovered, an e-mail change with all these people names in it that shows they knew there was problem to the very evidence -- the bulk of evidence that was used to obtain the FISA warrants in the FISA application and they withheld all of that exculpatory information from the judges, as well as who paid for it which was Hillary and how it was a political document. How can they get away with that abuse of power? GINGRICH: Well, because they're the establishment. They are the fix. They are the insiders. They are the guys that "The New York Times" and "The Washington Post" and all the networks except for Fox all surround and protect them. They operated on a premise, and, of course, they all thought Hillary was going to win. So, they never thought this was going to come to light. They thought they were helping the winner. And I think it was an enormous shock election night to suddenly start -- for Comey in particular -- to suddenly start realizing that his neck was on the line. He had been breaking the law, but he always thought he would be protected. Everybody near the Clintons have been protected as you pointed out. HANNITY: All right. Comey's chain is on this e-mail chain. He was on the e-mail chain. He signed off on that. GINGRICH: Of course. You had the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation actively trying to destroy a presidential candidate. You have the former head of the FBI, Bob Mueller, actively trying to destroy the president of the United States. I mean, as a point here, and I know it's frustrating, but the fact is, this is a clear cut drama. They hate him. They want to destroy him. It has nothing to do with the truth and nothing to do with the law. HANNITY: There's no -- if we don't get everyone else that lied that we know lied under oath, if Hillary is never held accountable. You can say we have no equal justice or application or laws. That's the scary part for every American. Mr. Speaker, thank you. When we come back, a one-on-one shootout, me versus Geraldo Rivera about immigration. Also later, we've got an update to tell you about. Remember the teacher ruining Christmas for five and six-year- olds? Oh, you won't believe it and one church literally put what is a statue of the baby Jesus in a cage to make a political statement against Donald Trump, shocking, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. "The Daily Caller" reporting that illegal immigrant previously deported, get this, eight times has been arrested for murder in the United States and meanwhile, yesterday, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals struck down legislation that makes it a crime to encourage illegal immigration, ruling the law violates free speech and a Massachusetts state judge is now suspected of helping an illegal immigrant flee ICE. And as we previously reported on this show, congresswoman, there she is, Pramila Jayapal, who participates in the writing of the nation's laws -- well, she went and met the caravan, met up with them in Tijuana and escorted several migrants across the country. Isn't that nice of them? And joining us now, FOX News correspondent at large, Geraldo Rivera. Geraldo, let me just read this to you a little bit here. We talked about family separation and all the issues involving immigration, well, number one, we have a study that shows $70,000 per year the American taxpayer pays for every illegal immigrant. We have also 63 percent of illegal immigrants get some form of government assistance. But look at this one case. Here we have, you know, a guy that had been deported eight times now commits a murder with a guy he works with at a creamery. Geraldo, you get so worked up. I want a wall. I want to vet people. I want to make sure they can take care of themselves and not a burden on the American taxpayer. We need the wall. And I think it would be good for people on both sides. GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT AT LARGE: I think that you and I together, Sean, bridge the spectrum on this issue. We both want the wall. I think that the wall will bring order to the border. It won't solve the problem particularly of the drug cartels and the professional criminals, but it will stop some of the kind of chaos that we have seen recently with the migrant caravan. All I am asking is for compassion for the youngsters brought here at a tender age by their parents through no fault of their own. If the president can win the wall, the Congress funding of the $5 billion down payment for the wall, then I think the Democrats in Congress, it is incumbent on them to compromise if they want the Dreamers to get the pathway to citizenship. There is a compromise there. This issue is fraught with emotion. You mentioned the fellow who deported eight times and kills his colleague at work there. HANNITY: By the way, a weekend before, a young teacher in Texas, same story. RIVERA: Horrible. But there are, for instance-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Kate Steinle. RIVERA: -- within the sound of my voice here in the heart of Manhattan, there are a million undocumented immigrants within just this the radius here, just the radius of New York City. You never hear about them, why? Because they commit fewer crimes than citizens, Sean. They are people. They just wanting to feed their children. They just want the American dream. They live in desperately poor countries. They come because they are hungry and they are afraid. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Geraldo, wait a minute. I can sympathize with that, but look at the study that we have out. A majority of non-citizens, even those with legal green cards are tapping into welfare programs to the tune of six -- this is according to the census bureau, 63 percent, the last reporting year 2014, non-citizens using welfare programs and it grows to 70 percent for those here 10 years or more. So, it is costing us a fortune number one. It compromises our safety, number two. It puts a burden on our criminal justice system, educational system and healthcare system. (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: I do agree. HANNITY: Where is the sympathy for the American people? We deserve to be protected first before we start thinking about helping other people in other countries. RIVERA: See, your viewers know you as the tough guy. And, you know, you have a very strong commitment to patriotism and I love you for it, you are my brother. You know that when immigrants come to this country, they come poor. They come because they are the wretched masses yearning to breathe free. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Geraldo, we have poor Americans-- (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: They come because-- HANNITY: -- that we need to take on first. RIVERA: Or the Jew suffering from the programs. HANNITY: Why don't we take care ever the poor Americans first-- RIVERA: But-- HANNITY: -- and then maybe we can think about helping with our generosity. There's never been a country that accumulated more country and advanced it for human good than this one. RIVERA: The fellow you mentioned that killed his friend there, if you mention that, in fairness there are 10 million or 11 million undocumented immigrants. Why not we talk about the 9,999,000 who did nothing but go to work and take care of their children and make their community a safer place. I think it's unfair when we take these-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: OK. How about those-- RIVERA: -- anecdotes and we scare people with them. HANNITY: Will they pay for their own vetting? Will they also guarantee that they won't be a burden on the American taxpayer? Are those two fair-- (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: You know, they'll pay-- HANNITY: Are those two conditions fair? RIVERA: Enrico Fermi, Albert Einstein, all immigrants, they come here. HANNITY: You are not answering. Should they pay for their own vetting and should they-- (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: You know, they will, you can bill them by the second generation, they will be totally assimilated. By the third generation they won't even speak their native language anymore. HANNITY: Seventy thousand dollars a year per-- RIVERA: This is a nation of immigrants. We need a combination of pragmatism and compassion. HANNITY: All right. Geraldo, you get the last word. RIVERA: Thanks. HANNITY: When we come back, Rush Limbaugh calling out the phony mainstream media. Jenna Bush Hager explaining how a magazine cover that called her grandfather a wimp impacted her. And I'll address that and much more. A Hannity mini monologue. And then later how one church is politicizing Christmas. You won't believe it. And we have an update on that teacher that said to five and six-year-olds that Santa doesn't exist. By the way, kids, fake news. It wasn't true. Update on that teacher straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Now unhinged 24/7 destroy-Trump anti-Trump media continues to lose curability by the second, especially as they use the passing of President George H.W. Bush to attack President Trump. Unfortunately, they are just behaving as I told you that they would and that the subject of tonight's mini monologue. All right. So as the nation mourns the loss of President George H.W. Bush, well many in the media they continue to use his death and incredible legacy to denigrate President Trump, their tactics are getting more disturbing as they move on. Just look at how the mainstream media went after the president for paying his respects to the late 41st commander- in-chief. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Could not help as an American having lived for the last three and a half years or three years or two years specially to apply words to moments over those last two years, and go, wow, wouldn't it have been nice and different if. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It became uncomfortable when every one of the people who eulogized the 41st president talked about civility. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Talked about generosity. You could feel the un -- I mean, it was a contrast. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think Prince Charles has felt more comfortable in New Guinea than this president felt here today. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He is not one to mend fences, too readily. I think he is doing this because he feels he has to do it. I can't help but wonder if there was a thought bubble over Donald Trump's head just now what he was thinking as he stood there. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have to imagine he was thinking how much longer do I have to stand here? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Pretty shameful, sickening, but not at all surprising. Now Rush Limbaugh appearing with our own Shannon Bream. He didn't hold back in calling out this media hypocrisy. Just take a look at what Rush says. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: It's phony. They never treated him this way when he was president. They were vicious to him like they are vicious and partisan to every Republican. I think it's just a vehicle for them, Shannon, to be able to contrast what they think Trump is versus the way they are telling us Bush was. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. You see what's going on. Like we saw with Senator McCain, most in the mainstream media they do a complete 180, forgetting their once vicious and nasty coverage like when Senator McCain was running for president. New York Post columnist Michael Goodwin who will join us in a moment wrote a column this week entitled, "Democrats do, really do love Republicans - when they're dead." And Goodwin exposes just how low the press will sink to try and score cheap political points against their political enemies. And by the way, these tactics have serious implications. For example, President Bush's granddaughter Jenna Bush Hager, she is opening up about how nasty the media can be reflecting on Newsweek's infamous wimp cover of her grandfather from decades ago. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JENNA BUSH HAGER, GEORGE H.W. BUSH'S GRANDDAUGHTER: He spoke softly and he didn't speak about himself. He was humble. But why did that have to equate to being a wimp? And it didn't to us. He was our hero. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: If you are not outspoken and you are soft-spoken you are a wimp. Otherwise you are Donald Trump and you're too abrasive. All part of a pattern, smear a person's name when they are alive. Create a veneer of bipartisanship and unity once they passed just so they can attack their new political enemies. In this case furthering to bludgeoned Donald Trump. Here with reaction, Fox News contributor New York Times columnist, Michael Goodwin is with us, former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer, also a Fox News contributor. Here it is, "Dems love Republicans - when they're dead." Michael Goodwin, the fact is it's true. MICHAEL GOODWIN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, it is sad, Sean, you are right. And as I point out in the column this all sounds similar. The -- he is a hero. He is a genuine gentleman. He is a patriot. He is a great American. And they said the same thing about John McCain when he was in his coffin. But when they were alive the same media attacked them relentlessly, accused them of racism. Of, you know, stirring up fomenting trouble everywhere. It's going and taking the country backwards. They attacked their Supreme Court nominees with the same way that Brett Kavanaugh was attacked. HANNITY: Yes. GOODWIN: So, there is a pattern, except when they die, then suddenly they were the great Americans. In this case, of course, they are being used, virtues are being used against Donald Trump. So, it's really a double whammy for the Democrats in this day and age. HANNITY: They did the same thing with Ronald Reagan, John McCain, Ari, with 41 and 43. You're very close to the Bush family. You were there when they were bludgeoning 43. I mean, that was a daily -- I didn't think it could get worse but it's gotten worse. ARI FLEISCHER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. HANNITY: You know, let me put it this way. When I die all you liberals out there that hate me don't change what you really think of me. Just say it. Just be honest. it's cool. It's going to be all right. 'm going to give you a pass from heaven if I'm ever invited in. FLEISCHER: Sean, you know, here's the one that to me speaks volumes. And that was the New York Times when George H.W. Bush as president went to visit a trade show and saw an absolute brand-new technology for scanning products at a supermarket. Nobody had seen it before. And the New York Times story front page "Bush encounters the supermarket, amazed." Here is the lead of the story. The career politician who lived the cloistered life of a top Washington bureaucrat for decades is having trouble presenting himself to the electorate as a man in touch with middle class life. This now is the man that New York Times and others are holding up as a role model for all Americans because of his goodness, because of his principle, because of his civility. They mocked him relentlessly, and the thing about that story it was 100 percent fabrication. That never happened. The New York Times wasn't even at the event and that was not what Bush was amazed about. And the New York Times was writing up-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, Dan Rather lied about 43. FLEISCHER: They haven't corrected it yet. That's correct. Dan Rather lied about 43. Fabricated information about Bush. GOODWIN: Correct. HANNITY: Well, let me ask you. So, if you are soft-spoken like 41 you are a wimp in the media's eyes. If you are iconoclastic and combative like Donald Trump you are a, you know, a bruit and this is unacceptable to the office. So, you can't win, can you? And now all of the sudden now they hated 43, Ari, now they love him. Now, he's -- we'd take him back in a minute. No, they wouldn't. They would be all over him in five seconds. FLEISCHER: No. And you know, I remember in the 2000 campaign when George W. Bush was running against John McCain, the press was all for John McCain. I remember thinking to myself as soon as John McCain wherever to beat George H.W. Bush they will go against John McCain. They'll switch on a dime. HANNITY: Yes, and they did. FLEISCHER: And that's the way they always are. HANNITY: last word, Michael. GOODWIN: Well, yes. I mean, look at the way John McCain was treated when he ran against Barack Obama. Then he was just another dirty Republican. HANNITY: A racist. GOODWIN: They loved him in 2000. That's right. But by 2008, he was just another dirty Republican. Now he's dead and so he is great. HANNITY: Yes, amazing. Save the lies if I ever pass away. Just speak the truth. Just say what you really feel. All right. When we come back, we have got an update. Remember the story we brought to you earlier this week that school, that teacher ruining Christmas for five and six-year-olds? Got an important update. And you won't believe why one church put Christ in a cage to make a cheap political point on Christmas. Unbelievable. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Sadly, Christmas continues to come under attack. Now we got to warn you, you probably don't want your kids to watch this segment. There's a church in Massachusetts they put a baby Jesus in a cage as part of a nativity scene to make a point about illegal immigration. Also, tonight, we have an update on the story that we told you about earlier in the week. Remember that New Jersey substitute teacher telling first graders that Santa, the tooth fairy, and the Easter bunny aren't real. She has now rightfully been fired. Now one of my upcoming guests, David Kyle Johnson responded to our segment Monday night with a piece in psychology today entitled "Sorry, Sean Hannity, the truth about Santa is not fake news." And joins us now. He's a professor at Kings College and also with us is Fox News contributor, Rachel Campos-Duffy. You know, I read your column and then I looked into your background a little bit. This is like your big claim to fame. That you think that parents are lying, and perhaps even hurting their children by telling them about Santa Claus who is real. I know Santa is real. (CROSSTALK) DAVID KYLE JOHNSON, PROFESSOR, KINGS COLLEGE: Yes. The position I take-- HANNITY: Rachel knows he is real and you sit there. JOHNSON: -- is that simply parents would be better off if they did not lie to their children about Santa Claus. HANNITY: Well, the thing that stands out to me the most, it seemed really uptight and you seem like you need to loosen up a little bit and you might want to look through the eyes of a child the anticipation and the fun that goes along with Christmas and the Christmas season instead of being so kind of like, retentive about it. JOHNSON: Well, I think you may be mischaracterizing my view here. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: No. You say don't lie to kids about Santa. JOHNSON: I'm not that upset and uptight about it. HANNITY: You are saying we are lying to them. JOHNSON: It's more a matter of what the best parenting practices are and that parents need to be more cognizant about the risks that lying to their children pose. HANNITY: Risk? JOHNSON: Yes, you can damage your credibility with your child. HANNITY: With my 5-year-old child. JOHNSON: You can use it as a disciplinarian crutch. That is, it can be very, very harmful. It's very - psychologists agree that it's pretty bad to use Santa as a disciplinary in crutch. You can promote credulity in your child by encouraging to believe in things simply because they are fun or simply because they can be rewarded as a result. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, I can make the argument then that Halloween is teaching kids to be-- JOHNSON: And you can even stifle a child's imagination by doing this. HANNITY: I can teach Halloween as teaching kids to be socialists because they are banging on doors and saying give me something for free. We could go that far if we want to. But that would take away the fun of Halloween which is the point. Rachel? RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I would just say the story of Saint Nicholas is based on Saint Nicholas, who by the way, his feast day is tomorrow and lots of kids including my own are putting their shoes out today to get a preview of what's to come in on Christmas. And you are right, Sean, this is a season of anticipation. And there actually is, it's advent. And it's actually the waiting for Santa and that anticipation actually has very deep cultural and religious significance for myself, for you, and for many other Americans. And what I think is interesting is Dr. Johnson is clearly an atheist. And so many times people who come from that secular point of view are calling for tolerance and open-mindedness and respect for so many things, and yet they can't seem to find that for Christian traditions and beliefs. And that's really what this is about. HANNITY: Dr. Johnson? JOHNSON: You are completely strong manning my position. I am not intolerant of Christian traditions at all. I think everyone should be able to free, should be free to celebrate Christmas in whatever way they should to. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Do you think damaging the children. JOHNSON: When Christians celebrate Christmas by revering Christ that is perfectly acceptable-- HANNITY: In your own words, you think it can damage-- (CROSSTALK) CAMPOS-DUFFY: It's just so silly. JOHNSON: I am merely making observation about what I think is better for parents to do with their children. If they choose to do that, they are perfectly free to do that, but I'm also perfectly free to point out the kind of risk that a parent should be aware of when they are lying to their children about Santa Claus. CAMPOS-DUFFY: And I may have a Ph.D. but I have a lot more common sense, I think, doctor, with all due respect, and I think that parents do this because they have memories of Christmas themselves. And those memories are beautiful. (CROSSTALK) JOHNSON: Well, you see, this is-- CAMPOS-DUFFY: The Christmas spirit, wait a minute, the Christmas spirit has actually, this western Christian tradition has inspired giving salvation army, toys for tots, wreaths on the graves of our fallen soldiers. So, this is a beautiful tradition. And the Christian tradition. And I think that what you are doing is you are overthinking this. And you are taking the fun out of it and maybe you are a little bit grinchy. HANNITY: We'll get it quick 15 second response. JOHNSON: That's a very grinchy attitude to take. Christmas is about so much more. CAMPOS-DUFFY: Of course, Jesus Christ, I agree with that. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way, professor, we have got to go. You seem very angry. I just wanted to wish you a merry Christmas. (CROSSTALK) CAMPOS-DUFFY: Merry Christmas to all of you. JOHNSON: I'm not angry at all, Sean. HANNITY: I hope Santa Claus -- I hope Santa Claus puts coal in your stocking. When we come back, today the world remember the life, the incredible legacy of former President George H.W. Bush. We got highlight from today's emotional memorial service in Washington. That's next. HANNITY: All right. The funeral for President George H.W. Bush was hosted in Washington, D.C. today where a powerful ceremony was held to honor the exceptional life of service that he led. Just take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GEORGE W. BUSH, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We are going to miss you. Your decency, sincerity, and counsel will stay with us forever. So, through our tears, let us know the blessings of knowing and loving you, a great and noble man. The best father a son or daughter could have. And in our grief, let us smile knowing that dad is hugging Robin and holding mom's hand again. (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: A good man, a life of service. He'll be missed. Unfortunately, that's all the time we have left. We hope you join us on a weekday radio show, 3 to 6. This show will always be fair, balanced. And we're not the destroy- Trump media. But let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham standing by in D.C. Load-Date: December 6, 2018 End of Document Democrats Think They Are Smart And Intelligent And Even Ridiculed Trump Of His Intelligence; Elitism Could Be Downfall Of The Democrats In 2020; A Judge In Massachusetts Suspected Of Helping An Illegal Immigrant Escape ICE; Church Displays Nativity Scene With Baby Jesus In A Cage As Commentary On Immigration Controversy; ABC To Not Play List Of Traditional Christmas Songs Due To Offensive Lyrics; Living U.S. Presidents and Families Gather Together For Funeral Of George H. W. Bush; Tom Arnold Criticizes NRA; Past Controversial Comments Surface On Israel From Marc Lamont Hill Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST December 5, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8529 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Charlie Kirk, Andrew Yarrow, Scott Levenson, Leo Terrell, Brian Kelley, Dan Bongino, Horace Cooper, Jonathan Harris Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: A good man, a life of service. He'll be missed. Unfortunately, that is all the time we have left. We hope you join us on our weekday radio show, 3:00 to 6:00. This show will always be fair, balanced and we are not the destroy-Trump-media. But let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham standing by in D.C. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, it was amazing to see all the former presidents together. I mean, we have such a rough and tumble political world and political life here in Washington especially. It is kind of sad that it takes something like this for everyone to pause and most people, not everybody, be able to pause and appreciate a life, as you said, well lived, and a man with immense patriotism and love of family and love of country and it's as simple as that. It is just nice when that can happen. It doesn't happen often. HANNITY: You know what bothers me? It bothers me, though, that we can't say a good thing in life when somebody is running, and as Michael Goodwin said, Democrats love Republicans when they are dead, but how do they treat them in life would be more telling. INGRAHAM: Yes, it's transparent. I mean, everybody has been outed on this. I actually was here when they were saying those things. I was a law clerk at the Supreme Court when they were trashing H.W. Bush. And they loved it. He was a blue blood from Connecticut. HANNITY: He's a gentleman. INGRAHAM: But they made him out to be not very smart, believe it or not. HANNITY: Not true. INGRAHAM: So anyway, it's great that people can take this moment, we know who is telling the truth, who's been naughty, and who's been nice. We had a great show. HANNITY: You are getting coal in your stocking, Ingraham. You deserve it. You are in trouble all the time. INGRAHAM: Wait, OK. All right. HANNITY: I'm just saying. INGRAHAM: I have something on its way to you already by the way. You McDonaldland gift certificates, right? Those one with the fifty cents -- HANNITY: Great. A McDonald's gift certificate. I appreciate it. INGRAHAM: All right, Hannity, great show. HANNITY: I love McDonald's. I'm good with it. INGRAHAM: Me too. All right. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is "The Ingraham Angle" from Washington, D.C. Ahead we have a packed show for you tonight. Does the left think half of America is not just wrong, but really stupid? Well, it's a serious question and one that is now front and center given some recent comments by Democratic leaders. I'm going to explain in just a few moments. Plus, did a Massachusetts district court judge actually help a fugitive illegal alien evade ICE custody? A federal investigation has now been launched. We have the details. They will knock your socks off, OK. Again, I'm from New England and New England is always surprising me. And also tonight, one leftist celeb is taking aim at black NRA members tonight. A debate about the continued marginalization of African-American conservatives later in the show. And more Christmas songs have been banned by the very unfun -- another fun killers on the left. They are killing fun all over the country. And some disgusting Christmas toys that were all the rage. We are going to examine the body language of George H.W. Bush's funeral, believe it or not, there are some people speculating that certain people were -- well, we'll tell you. And that is "Seen and Unseen" with Raymond Arroyo. But first, Democrats defining intelligence down. That is the focus of tonight's "Angle." Now, despite the big gains in the House and the midterms, Democrats still may not get it. They have a new line. They've been testing it out. All right, ready for this? They are now the smartest people in the room who have all the answers, even if you are too stupid to understand it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: One of things that we Democrats have a really hard time is connecting to people's hearts instead of here. We are really good at shoving out all the information that touch people here but not here. We Democrats know so much -- that is true. We have the kind of tell everybody how smart we are, and so we have a tendency to be very left brain. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, unless you think this is some isolated idea, all right, that we are just so smart we have trouble connecting with you. It's actually something that is shared fairly widely and two of the latest forbearers, by the way, of the Democratic Party. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Do you really think Donald Trump has the temperament to be commander-in-chief? Imagine him in the Oval Office facing a real crisis. BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: He just says, I'm going to negotiate a better deal. What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn't have an answer. This office has a way of waking you up. His positions or predispositions that don't match up with reality, he will find shaken up pretty quick. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK. The obvious implication being that Donald Trump and those Americans who voted for him are just a bunch of dumb (inaudible). Now let's face it, when Trump won in 2016 -- you can see Obama there, still shell- shocked back in November of 2016 -- well, he embarrassed, Trump embarrassed a lot of the so-called experts. The consultants, the pollsters, the strategists, all the big thinkers, and the establishment class. So feeling suddenly diminished, they lashed out at Trump, belittling his intelligence. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The problem here is that the president doesn't read. We know that. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Isn't it remarkable how little confidence Donald Trump's own lawyers have in him? That they think he is too stupid to stand -- sit across the table with Robert Mueller? MIKA BRZEZINSKI, MSNBC HOST: Almost caveman-like. It really is. He is like Fred Flinstone running the country. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's man without curiosity. It's a man who doesn't read, and it's a man with an attention span of a rabid Tsetse fly. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, that is going back to Mark Shields. Well, they said similar things by the way about Reagan, until he died, of course, and then they all pretended that they never said any of the mean stuff they said about him for his two terms in office. Liberals claim to be for the little guy. They are the champions of the average person. But they are really elitist snobs at heart. Maureen Dowd, a "New York Times" columnist, used to write these pieces mocking the cultural and culinary tastes of Bush 41 and Barbara. You know, he ate pork rinds and the two of them watched things like "America's Funniest Home Videos" on T.V. on Sunday nights. The subtext was always, look at the Bushes, Ivy League blue bloods but still unsophisticated, and frankly, not all that smart. But here's a news flash for everybody. No one who becomes president is dumb. Especially not Trump, who managed to beat not one, but two political dynasties to win the White House. Remember all the dire predictions made by all those political and business savants about a Trump presidency? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If the unlikely event happens and Trump wins, you will see a market crash of historic proportions. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In the event Donald wins, I have no doubt in my mind, the market tanks. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump is moving us toward World War III. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The lack of a diplomatic and serious engagement strategy, in my view, has us sliding toward war by next summer. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: We can just play this all night long. We sort of have a show because that is really entertaining. Democrats and their allies imply that they have a monopoly on intelligence and brainpower. But if that's true, why have they screwed things up so badly when they have the chance to fix them? While Trump identified the threat, for instance, posed by China and has challenged them, who can forget Bill Clinton pushing for China's acceptance on the world stage with his misguided WTO push? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Disagreement is a good deal for America. Our products will gain better access to China's market. If China gains no new market access to the United States, we will gain tough new safeguards against surges of imports and maintain the strongest possible rules against dumping products that have hurt Americans in the past. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, my gosh. Rhode scholar, Yale undergrad, Yale Law school, and like many others, he didn't see the obvious coming. China has manipulated and distorted world markets, engaged in blatant ransacking of our intellectual properties, and dumped heavily subsidize products into the United States, leading to the loss of millions of U.S. jobs. The CEO of Minnesota's Cambria, it makes quartz countertops, told us earlier this week how China targets U.S. manufacturers for the sole purpose of destroying them. And then, dominating the market. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are subsidized by their government. The People's Republic of China is not a friendly participant in a free enterprise economy in America. They subsidize their companies, they run their banks, they are state-owned and they are going after American manufacturing. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: But no worries because Democrats have all the answers. Now remember President Obama assuring us, by the way, that his cabinet would be staffed with the best and the brightest? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KATHLEEN SEBELIUS, FORMER U.S. SECRETARY OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES: We are on track to flip the switch on October 1st. We are on track to have the marketplace up and running on October 1st and confident that we will be up and running and on track on October 1st. Nobody says the site is working the way we want it to. Certainly the president acknowledge like yesterday, no one could be more frustrated than (ph) I am, and the president, that this isn't smooth. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: All right, $120 million or so, right, to get that website, was it more? And they couldn't get a website working. Like a freshman at MIT could get the website working. Who can forget the Obama administration's foreign policy flops? Again, these are the smart people, remember. Mazie Hirono said we are too smart for our own good. Remember when he designated the Muslim Brotherhood as moderate Islamist in Egypt and he called Iran's president Rouhani a moderate reformer? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: We are encouraged that President Rouhani received from the Iranian people a mandate to pursue a more moderate course. Iran's genuine commitment to go down to a different course will be good for the region in the world. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It's been awesome so far. And how about all the geopolitical geniuses that Hillary's State Department, allowing our ambassador to travel to Benghazi when we knew about repeated security threats and an unstable situation on the ground? He and three others ended up dead. Trump removed the rose-colored glasses and what he did is he confronted the rogue powers in the region as they exist. Trump's foreign policy is more pragmatic and prudent. He doesn't believe in nation-building, nor does he believe passivity is the answer in the face of real threats. But the Democrats, they feel like, come on, they have with the wind at their backs now. Forget all the stuff that happened, all their predictions that came out -- no, they didn't come out to be true at all. But they feel like they have a head of steam, and maybe you can kind of understand it. They picked up 40 seats in the House. But right now, what I'm seeing, there is very little evidence that they have learned much about America. Why they voted in the first place for Donald Trump, and why they still support so many of his policies, especially on trade and immigration. And for all the Democrats star power, they couldn't win the big races in Florida, Texas, or Georgia. Why not? I'll tell you why, in part, they have not come to terms with the fact that their decades of errors pave the way for Donald Trump. But I'll tell you this, at least Senator Claire McCaskill, of course she lost her re-election bid, she seemed to have learned something, telling NPR, "I don't think my vote against Kavanaugh hurt me as much as the spectacle that occurred. There were mistakes made by my party in terms of how that was handled." Well I'll say. The bright lights of the Democratic Party, though, they thought that the American people would rally behind them. And they set about to destroy the life of a man who actually is brilliant and one of the finest judges in America. Well, instead, most fair-minded people, maybe they didn't go to Yale Law School. They saw the campaign of the Democrats, the campaign of personal distruiction, for what it was. Insidious. I don't know what the next two years is going to bring. But before you sweat the warnings of the expert class, remember just how much they screwed up over the past 30 years or so. And that's the "Angle." Here now, Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA founder and president, Andrew Yarrow, senior fellow of the Progressive Policy Institute, and author of the book "Man Out," and Scott Levenson, Democratic strategist and president of Advanced Group. Andrew, now, you wrote a piece about -- recently about how the Democrats have foolishly written off white America, and it kind of dovetails into -- we dovetail into each other what I'm talking about here. They are very smart. So why do they screw up so much and why did they lose that part of America? ANDREW YARROW, SENIOR FELLOW, PROGRESSIVE POLICY INSTITUTEL: Well, it is a big failing of the Democratic Party. I mean, they basically ignored their concerns and even put down the concerns and problems of lots of white American men. And you know, you hear the disdain in many, many Democrats, not all, on their voices or their expressions, you know, the deplorables itself is -- INGRAHAM: Clinging to their guns and religion to deplorables. YARROW: Yes. INGRAHAM: Charlie Kirk, you've talked about this a lot. The Democrats have always tried to champion, a claim that they champion the little guy. We're going to help you up. But here you got this billionaire guy, Trump comes along, his policies are actually helping the little guy. CHARLIE KIRK, FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT, TURNING POINT USA: They took a billionaire from New York to champion the wants and needs of middle America, which is now everywhere between Manhattan and Malibu. But look, they have called them slope-headed, you know, us from the Midwestern part of the country, slope-headed, you know, bible thumpers, and clingers to their god, gun religion. And over a period of time they start to become the ruling class. And you look at Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, they are that ruling class where your proximity to Washington, D.C. dictates how much wealth and power you have. And the best indication of this, the wealthiest counties in America are right around here in Washington, D.C. Eight out of 10 of the wealthiest counties in America are around Washington, D.C. INGRAHAM: Big government pays big money. KIRK: That's right. Lobbyist, croniest (ph) deals to Washington and middle America saw in Donald Trump, finally, a populist hero that talked about trade and immigration, a way that no one had for a long, long time. INGRAHAM: Scott, Mazie Hirono's comment just really -- I found it interesting on a number of levels because I don't think she realized that she -- she was speaking truth to power in a way because a lot of us have been watching this slow moving train wreck against blue-collar America, both from Democrats and Republicans who missed the boat on China, they missed the boat on immigration, they missed the boat on NAFTA, and Mazie Hirono says, look, we are just too smart. We can't really connect with the hearts of America. SCOTT LEVENSON, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: No, that's actually not what she said, Laura. What she said was it's a struggle to make things digestible. And that's true with the sound bite -- INGRAHAM: Because Americans are too stupid to understand they are waging their flat-lining (ph). LEVENSON: No, it's actually, you know, that you're right. I'm sorry you feel that way, Laura. I'm sure you don't really feel that way but you keep repeating that you think that Americans are too stupid. I don't know why you would repeat that. INGRAHAM: Because Hillary called them the deplorable and Obama said they were clinging to guns and religion, that's why. LEVENSON: No, it is, in fact, if you'll let me finish. If you let me finish. Just over the last week, we've had a complete attack on intellectualism by the Republican Party. This administration started with an attack on Obamacare, it failed. The fact is, they tried to destroy Obamacare, and Americans recognized that all they were doing was posturing. They didn't really care about the health care of America because these are complex issues that have to be debated and discussed and strategized. The answer is not just to kill Obamacare nor is the answer, when people -- INGRAHAM: So, I have a question. It's a simple question. LEVENSON: Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Laura, if you could just -- Laura, if you could just let me finish my thought -- INGRAHAM: No, no, I don't play your game. LEVENSON: Just let me (inaudible) my thought. But when the president has experts starting from wrong -- INGRAHAM: My question is, if the smart people wanted to renegotiate NAFTA -- let me ask you a question and see if you can answer the question. LEVENSON: I was actually -- I was just finishing the though. If I could just finish the thought on why the president INGRAHAM: Let me ask you a question, a simple question about NAFTA. You are not going to answer. Charlie, go ahead. LEVENSON: Go ahead. KIRK: If the ruling class and the philosopher kings were really that smart, the VA would not have been a total mess for 20 years and NAFTA wouldn't have decimated the middle part of the country. LEVENSON: Listen, we have Republican presidents during those 20 years. OK! (CROSSTALK) KIRK: The experts have screwed this country in both political party for the last 30 or 40 years. And now you see the Democrats say, just trust us with more power. We just haven't implemented our full time yet. And this is exactly where the rebellion of Donald Trump was rooted in, is that, you know what, the American people know better than the rulers here in Washington. INGRAHAM: Yes, Chris Matthews actually had a comment I thought that was fairly interesting about how the Democrats have become the elitists. They were always really against the elitists. Everyone likes smart people. Smart people are great. So Andrew, you're just casting what we're saying. Just take a breath, let me play something for you, and then you can react because I would assume you don't think Chris Matthews is a member of the right-wing conspiracy. Listen to what he said in June. LEVENSON: I just don't understand your attack and the intellectualism. INGRAHAM: Stop talking. Listen. Stop talking. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNBC HOST: A true Democrat, lowercase d, thinks they know better than anybody else. That's what a Democrat is. And the party regains that with white, black, Hispanic people, everybody. Starts to think of themselves as one of them instead of being better than them, they'll get back to the party of the people. And they are not there yet. There are too many elitists -- there are so much elitism in the Democratic Party. It is so outrageous. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Andrew, you disagree with Matthews? YARROW: No, not really. I mean, I think there are parts of it that is right. I mean, the problems with both political parties, problems Washington for a long time here, but the thing about the Democrats has really gotten to bother me, is the political correctness that, you know, they can't see men's problems, in which I talk about in my book, "Man Out." Instead they see men as the problem. You know, they don't look at the concerns of men, men who are out of work, struggling for fatherhood and families, men who have are struggling with poor health, mental health, and men who don't know what it means to be a man today. INGRAHAM: Since andrew took a bite of that one, Scott, let me read this from Tim Ryan, who actually had another interesting point about all of this. We'll put it up on the screen. "The Achilles' heel of the Democratic brand is that we look elitist and judgmental." Democrat from the rust belt of Ohio. Your reaction to that? LEVENSON: The fact is, when we look at trying to find a solution to the global crisis of warming in our environment, that's us trying to take a stab at a difficult policy, you should not deny it, like the president has in the face of experts. We are trying to deal with the policy challenge not deny it. Same is true with health care. We are trying to address a policy challenge, not throw everybody out of health care. What Americans want, which is why we gained 40 seats, is health care that works. They did not want health care just thrown out. That is why we gained seats, Laura, and you can't deny that we gained seats this year. INGRAHAM: I actually said that in the "Angle" but you might not be listening, OK. LEVENSON: We did so far and we all reasoned (ph). You didn't -- No, I did but you did point a reason. INGRAHAM: I actually made that point in the "Angle" but you weren't listening, which is why liberals don't learn. LEVENSON: But it's important to understand -- INGRAHAM: You don't listen to what the people are telling you. LEVENSON: What is important to do is understand why we picked up seats, Laura. Why we picked up seats. INGRAHAM: Right. Well, I know. I know why you picked up seats. LEVENSON: Explain. Why? INGRAHAM: There's a whole bunch of reasons, but Charlie, let's talk about what -- as we close here. Specifically on the issue of very complicated issue like trade, you have Bob Lighthizer, you have Wilbur Ross, you have Stephen Vaughn inside the USTR. You have the finest thinkers on the issue of trade that we've ever had in the U.S. government, ever, and I worked for Reagan, ever. They are smart. They are getting it done, and they have already made huge headway. Bush -- Obama promised it and Clinton thought about it. Never would happen. KIRK: The difference is you have very smart people finally negotiating for the American people not for big transnational corporations trying to benefit foreign nations, such as China so they can dump their products here. And the other important point is, liberals they say, oh, we are for gun control, they walk around with armed guards. They want open borders, yet they live with walls in their gated communities. They are against school choice and they send their kids to privat schools. They are the ultimate hypocrites. INGRAHAM: All right guys. All right, thank you so much. The church, by the way, politicizing a nativity scene. They protest President Trump's immigration policies and did a liberal district court judge actually help an illegal alien evade ICE custody? Wait until you hear the stories, next. INGRAHAM: We've long told you about activist judges undermining Trump's immigration policies, but this next story is outrageous. A district court judge in Massachusetts is accused of helping an illegal immigrant sneak out a backdoor to avoid being deported. Here's the back story. Jose Medina-Perez of the Dominican Republic was in court on drug charges and also faced a fugitive warrant for drunk driving. In a new audio recording obtained by "The Boston Globe," his defense attorney is heard at the bench with the prosecutor. And Judge Shelley Joseph, they raised doubt about whether Medina-Perez had been correctly identified by ICE and whether he should be set free. Listen. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) SHANNON JURGENS, PROSECUTOR: I don't think it's him. DAVID JELLINEK, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: ICE is convinced that this is the guy. (Inaudible). I went through and did the research. There is 13 (inaudible) to social media. So something is badly (inaudible). My client denies that it's him. ICE will pick him up if walks out the front door. But I think the best thing for us to do is clear the fugitive issue and release him on personal (inaudible). SHELLEY JOSEPH, JUDGE: If you need more time to figure this out or until tomorrow. ICE is going to get him. What if we continue -- JELLINEK: Are we filming? JOSEPH: Larry, can we go off the record for a moment. (END AUDIO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, minutes after that recording, witness say the illegal was escorted out a back door and then released from custody. He then scaled a fence and escaped. We should note he has not been caught. Joining me now, Leo Terrell, civil rights attorney and Brian Kelley, a former federal prosecutor in Massachusetts. Brian, I want to start with you. How unique is it to have a federal investigation into a sitting state court judge on an issue such as this? BRIAN KELLEY, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: Well, it's not common at all, Laura. You know, it's a bizarre set of facts, right? The defendant is arrested on drug charges. He's been deported twice before, and then because, for whatever reason, the judge turns off the tape recorder, contrary to court rules, we don't really know what she says next. The next thing you know, he's running out the back door into the streets of Boston. So I think even by Massachusetts standards, this is a little bit too much judicial activism, and it has led to, according to "the Boston Globe," a federal investigation, a grand jury investigation. And that in and of itself, is quite unusual. INGRAHAM: Well, he has since been caught, I want to make sure I get that right. So he is since been caught. But the underlying facts of this are really disturbing. Governor Charlie Baker spoke out about this, Leo, I want your reaction. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHARLIE BAKER, GOVERNOR OF MASSACHUSETTS: The facts of this case as presented by the media indicate a willful attempt to obstruct the work of a federal law enforcement official. And that is in an appropriate role for a judge. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, I guess Judge Shelley has not been on the bench very long, but nevertheless, Leo, would you say, Judge Joseph -- would you say that this is warranted? Is this extrajudicial conduct? I mean, when you look up activist judge, this is really activist judge. This is not just a ruling, this is "go." LEO TERRELL, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: Well, Laura, hi. Thanks for having me. First of all, we're going after the judge, what about the prosecutor and the defense attorney and the officers who allowed him out to escape? I find this really odd because, as the governor said, based on the facts from the public, where is the investigation of the district attorney and the prosecutor? Wasn't there a conspiracy when they all got before the judge and said all these things? So I think my colleague, who is on the show, is ignoring the prosecutor who represents the state of Massachusetts, and the defense attorney. Why single out the judge? Why? I'm confused. And one other point -- INGRAHAM: Does the judge not have control of his own court? Brian? KELLY: Well, I think people expect a judge to uphold the law, interpret the law, but not subvert the law. So I think the focus is on the judge right now because it is such a bizarre set of facts. And so that is why I think the judge is under investigation. We don't know what the grand jury will find, apparently according to "The Boston Globe," they are investigating. They are hearing different witnesses. So who knows where it will lead. But this is not what taxpayers should pay their salary -- TERRELL: Well, are you on national T.V.? Are you on national T.V. saying that it was just the judge and nobody else? And you know as well as I do, being a federal prosecutor, that there got to be some evidence where the judge actively instructed someone, and you are just speculating right now. INGRAHAM: Called some investigation. KELLY: No, no, wait a minute. Look, there is evidence on the record where she says, "ICE is going to get him," and then, in violation of the court rules, she turns off the tape recorder. And she doesn't turn off the tape recorder because she is obeying the court rules. She knows that she's doing something, it seems, that is not appropriate. The next thing you know, the defendant, an illegal alien, is running out the back door into the streets of Boston. INGRAHAM: Well, he knew what he was getting. He was getting a get out of - - literally getting a get out of deportation free card, OK? That is what he was getting. KELLY: If this defendant, if this defendant -- TERRELL: Brian and Laura, what about, what about -- why don't we just get the prosecutor on the "Laura Ingraham Show," the prosecutor and the defense attorney and say what did the judge say? We've got direct evidence. INGRAHAM: Leo, I love you, and if you want to be my booker, Andrew will not be happy about that, let me just say that? And we'll always take booking help. I love that. But here's the problem is in Massachusetts, we have at least some of the counties are sanctuary counties. Boston itself is a sanctuary city, correct? So this is kind of in the DNA now of Boston, that you don't want to release people out the front door of the courtroom because ICE is going to, on occasion, we hope more than on occasion, be there to arrest them once they are released. And they know that. That is why they go out the back door, sneak out the back. KELLY: I guess we now have sanctuary courtrooms. INGRAHAM: Good point. TERRELL: Let me just say this, based on this, if you are having a sanctuary city, you have just stated that every official who endorsed a state-sponsored sanctuary city should be arrested for failing to cooperate with ICE. That is what you are basically saying. INGRAHAM: That might go a little far, but, well, you are getting warm. You are getting warm, Leo. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Great debate, you guys. Thanks so much. And with the Christmas season comes, what, Santa, candy canes, headaches from shopping. Nativity scenes? But this year, instead of being surrounded by adoring animals, baby Jesus is surrounded by a cage. That is right -- why are we Massachusetts again? A Massachusetts church is trying to send a message about Trump's immigration policy by putting the baby Jesus in a big, square cage. Where are the three wise men? Separated by a metal fence, reading the book "Deportation." Here is the pastor defending this decision. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEPHEN JOSOMA, PASTOR OF ST. SUSANNA PARISH: And 65 million refugees worldwide seeking a better way of life, and we were wondering what that might look like 2,000 years ago if this family encountered the same dynamics that are taking place in our own country right now. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: First of all, if he is a priest, wears his collar, although I like the plaid, looking good. But could we find a collar? And that's not the first time, by the way, this church has waded into politics. Last year, that same nativity scene had baby Jesus surrounded by a list of the deadliest mass shootings in U.S. history. Joining me now with reaction, Dan Bongino, host of "The Dan Bongino Show." Dan, this is literally separating church from state with a cage, right? Is that where we are? DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Laura, I read an interesting piece a while ago about how the government had this really incredible success with stopping smoking. And the reason they did was because everyone out there knew someone who smokes, right? So they knew how to talk to those people. It was a mom, a dad, a brother. The problem with liberals is, as in with this case, the priest and the folks in the church said, well, we were just looking to spark a conversation. This way? Like, why would liberals want to spark a conversation do they always do it in the worst way possible? Taking advantage of nativity scene. It reminds me of the Kaepernick case. He takes a knee. OK, you want to talk about police use of force, fine. But he was a pair of socks on with cops depicted as pigs. It's just like, listen, we can talk about immigration, but clearly liberals have not learned that putting a cage around baby Jesus is probably not the way to, quote, spark a conversation. INGRAHAM: Dan, in some parts of the country, they had to actually kind of put baby Jesus and have ties to the ground because people would steal the baby Jesus. People will take the wise men. That's why a live nativity scene is always better. It's harder to physically take the people and the animals, but they actually will steal them. At first, I thought, oh, God, this is -- they really need a lot of security for their manger scene. But they are trying to make a point. So the lefty priest says this in "The Boston Globe." "We thought we would kind of put a mirror image of what it would look like if this happened 2,000 years ago. It's kind of a mirror image of where we are at today." Move over Thomas Aquinas. What? I don't even understand that. He needs a mirror -- go ahead. BONGINO: Yes, Laura, 2,000 years ago, Laura, we didn't have the airbus or the 747, OK? There wasn't a way to transport millions of people into a sovereign nation at any given time. Listen, with all due respect, I'm a practicing Catholic, I love my faith. My wife is an immigrant to this country. I am not anti-immigrant. I'm anti-lawbreaking. You have to come here legally like my wife did. This isn't a complicated argument. One more thing, to the liberals, do you have to be a blowtorch on everything? Do have to blow up -- INGRAHAM: Yes, they do. BONGINO: They've destroyed Halloween. Halloween now, every costume, every parent has to worry if it's cultural appropriation. You couldn't wear the black panther costume apparently if your kid wasn't black. This was an actual controversy. They blew up Thanksgiving for colonialism, or whatever liberal victimhood of the day. Can we just leave baby Jesus alone? INGRAHAM: They are anti-fun. They are not fun people. They are not fun. BONGINO: Friends don't let friends mess with baby Jesus. Just leave baby Jesus alone. Let us enjoy Christmas. I'm begging you, just give us one holiday. INGRAHAM: Dan, there is no room at the end for baby Jesus and there is no room in America for the thousands of thousands of people in Tijuana, OK? It's a mirror image, as this priest said. No wonder fewer people are going to church. Stick with the gospel and leave the theatrics and the props to other people. Dan, thank you so much. And when it comes to -- coming up, we have a related topic. More Christmas songs are being added to that do-not- play list this year. We are going to examine the body language, also, at George H. W. Bush's funeral, some are talking about. That in "Seen and Unseen" with Raymond Arroyo, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (MUSIC) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It's time now for "Seen and Unseen." Tonight's edition, verboten Christmas songs and gross toys. Last week we told you about a station banning, what you just heard, "Baby, It's Cold Outside," from their airwaves. Now a new ABC piece suggesting that other songs could be just as problematic. So if the leftwing grinches have their way, you may have to stop singing all the songs you love to sing. Really? Joining us now with all the details, Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series. Raymond, what in the good Lord's name is going on? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Laura, ABC and others are trying to create their own index of prohibited Christmas songs, starting with "It's beginning to look a lot like gender rigidity." Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (SINGING) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A pair of hop-a-long boots and a pistol that shoots is the wish of Barney and Ben. Dolls that'll talk and will go for a walk is the hope of Janice and Jen. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: That line is offensive, Laura, because, here's the quote, "It offers me no help in dispelling the myth that dolls are just more girls and guns for boys." Now, songs reflect an era. This was written in 1951 by Meredith Wilson. INGRAHAM: It also reflects reality. My sons can find a gun and any twig pile or any -- ARROYO: When my boys were little, they turned Lego into guns. It doesn't matter. You could take guns away from them. They'd find sticks and turn it into guns. They naturally -- INGRAHAM: Not all boys are like that, but a lot of them are. ARROYO: ABC is also targeting the Eartha Kitt hit "Santa Baby." (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Think of all the fun I've missed. Think of all the fellows that I haven't kissed. Next year I could be oh, so, good, if you check off my Christmas list. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Laura, they say that song is full, ABC does, it's full of sexual - - INGRAHAM: Unlike everything else on ABC. Oh, my God! Are you kidding me? ARROYO: It implies all that a woman must do to end up on Santa's nice list. All the songs from this era, Laura, were about innuendo, but they weren't gratuitous and explosive, unlike the age we find ourselves. INGRAHAM: When Santa said ho, ho, ho, it meant one thing. Now in other songs it might mean something else. ARROYO: They're going to ban your show if you keep this up. INGRAHAM: I'm saying they can do anything and say anything that is a most objectifying of women, and frankly, men, as well. And they are like, oh, this is free expression, turn it off if don't like it. ARROYO: Here's Mariah Carey hit, "All I Want for Christmas," it too, ABC, put on their list of do not play during the holidays. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (SINGING) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Santa won't you bring me the one I really need? Won't you please bring my baby to me? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What's wrong with that? ARROYO: Well, they say this focuses on a woman wanting nothing but a man for Christmas. It's not the most empowering or evolved message for women. God forbid they listen to "Blue Christmas" or "What are you doing New Year's Eve." Those are all desperate people wanting a partner. This is called human experience. It's what song is meant to capture -- love, sex, desire. INGRAHAM: So the Stones, "Can't Get No Satisfaction," that's OK with them, though? ARROYO: I guess. I guess. These people should go in the corner and hum "Greensleeves" to themselves. I'd tell them to sing "Ave Maria" but "Blessed among women" might cause problems because where are the men and the others. INGRAHAM: Oh, no. Let's get some of the more sought after toys this season, Raymond. What are they? ARROYO: This is related, Laura, to the song bans we are talking about, because on the one hand they are playing puritans, saying you can't listen to that song, it's too gross. On the other hand, the hottest toys of the season are so gratuitous and disgusting I hesitate to even share them with you. INGRAHAM: Oh, but go ahead. ARROYO: Pimple Pete. Here we go, Pimple Pete -- you actually squeeze and tweeze his zits for points. And if you pull to hard -- INGRAHAM: What? You're making this up. ARROYO: Look, it's a video. If you pull too hard, his nose explodes and the mega zit juice will wash across the players. Can you imagine is? INGRAHAM: I dated someone like that in high school. ARROYO: This is something I used to try to avoid this. Now you play for fun. INGRAHAM: It's all part of life. ARROYO: How about this one -- flushing frenzy. You plunge the toilet, and after you had a number of times -- OK -- once you plunge it too many times, the poop goes flying and you have to catch it. Why are we teaching our kids to play with feces, why? INGRAHAM: First of all, my son Nico never flushes the toilet. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: So if this encourages him to flush ever -- how many times do I say to him, Nico, have you flushed? Yes. I said, oh, really. I have to be the poop police and go over -- ARROYO: If that poop is flopping out of the toilet you've got big plumbing problems in the Ingraham household. INGRAHAM: Remember, what was your favorite toy growing? Did you like battleship, or like Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots? That was awesome. ARROYO: My favorite toy was a nerf gun. I had this nerf gun, and I broke things in the house. It wasn't pretty. INGRAHAM: Battleship? ARROYO: We have to talk for a few moments about the Bush funeral now. INGRAHAM: Something important. ARROYO: This is very important. There were some moments we want to decode for you. The body language was quite revealing. Now here are the former presidents and their wives before President Trump's arrival. You can see there interacting here. Go full screen on this, guys. They are jovial, they're interacting, everybody is talking and happy. Michelle and President Clinton are laughing. Then, then, President Trump arrives. He shakes President Obama's hand, grudgingly shakes Mrs. Obama's hand. Look at the -- catch the look on Mrs. Obama. Now everybody -- everybody suddenly becomes still lives at Madame Tussauds. Look at Hillary. Hillary wouldn't even look down the aisle, she is staring at that altar like her life depends on it. INGRAHAM: She hasn't averted her gaze. Is there anything you can tell us about? There was one point where Donald Trump crossed his arms. ARROYO: He did, during the service. He did cross his arms. INGRAHAM: Crossing arms is not the best -- ARROYO: It's a protective gesture. INGRAHAM: It looks like you are worried about something. ARROYO: It's a protective gesture. They were icy and a bit cold. Their body language, which was open and -- before he arrived, suddenly got very real. INGRAHAM: Raymond, Raymond. OK, keep going. ARROYO: Then later, President Bush came in. And he greeted each of the people in the first pew. Watch this. Look at the reaction. Then he hands Michelle Obama a mint. Remember, he handed her a mint at the McCain funeral. So look at the change. INGRAHAM: Slow-mo, I like the slow-mo move. ARROYO: But again, everybody kind of warms up when he steps -- INGRAHAM: Well, W. is funny as all get up. He is so funny. ARROYO: He's a very accessible guy. INGRAHAM: And I thought he did a great job today. I got teared up. That was great. ARROYO: It was a very moving tribute to his father. INGRAHAM: I have a question. We're out of time. What was it with the overcoat? ARROYO: President Trump came in -- INGRAHAM: He got hit on Twitter for the overcoat. He walked into the overcoat, and then he handed it to the marine. ARROYO: He handed it to the marine who took it outside and put it in the car. INGRAHAM: There were like that is an autocrat. Maybe he was cold. ARROYO: Maybe he was cold and walked in with the coal and forgot to leave it in the car. It's not the end of the world. But the interplay between the presidents always interesting to watch. INGRAHAM: Fantastic. And coming up -- by the way, "Greensleeves," now I'm going to have it in my head. ARROYO: Don't you love it. I love "Greensleeves." I'm going to go -- INGRAHAM: Depressing song. All right, coming up, why is leftist celeb Tom Arnold calling out African- American gun owners? This can't miss debate, next. INGRAHAM: OK, why is it that whenever African-Americans embrace a conservative ideal, they're maligned with no repercussions? Take Tom Arnold on the issue of NRA membership. The actor who has made misogynistic attacks on black conservatives like Candace Owens, just took aim at black gunowners, claiming they are only five black NRA members. Well, the NRA doesn't disclose membership numbers broken down by race. Pew Research found that 24 percent of African-Americans were legal gun owners, not far off the percentage of all adults. So here to debate, Horace Cooper, co-chair of Project 21, and Democratic analyst Jonathan Harris. All right, Jonathan, whether it is supporting guns or supporting Donald Trump, it seems like the impulse, the reflex on the left, is to say, how pathetic, how silly, call you an Uncle Tom or just plain stupid. What's going on there? JONATHAN HARRIS, LIBERAL ANALYST: I think it is just generally because the GOP has not been super friendly to African-Americans, so it's kind of silly when you embrace policies from the GOP since they are not really working for you. INGRAHAM: The Second Amendment is not a GOP policy. HARRIS: No, no, certainly not. But I was surprised that he thought the number was that high in terms of NRA members. No, I'm kidding. But they own guns, of course, but I think he was saying specifically -- and he's joking. I think he's kidding. I think he is trying to make a broader point that the NRA doesn't necessarily -- that is not their target demo, is African-Americans. And I don't think the GOP's target demo is African- Americans either. INGRAHAM: I thought the NRA was all about making money, raising money, making money. If you want to raise money, you raise it from all people. And you want people to be safe, or secure, and be safe gunowners, doesn't matter whether you are black or white, or Asian, but the point is, why is it always a pejorative? I thought we believed in diversity -- diversity of thought, diversity of belief. And, Horace, I've heard that so many times after having clerked for Justice Thomas and all the years that we've addressed this issue of race and intellectual diversity. I just think that the more the merrier. Argue the point. HORACE COOPER, CO-CHAIR, PROJECT 21: Tom Arnold lives in a little bubble, and in that little special bubble, there is no possibility of any knowledge of experience that is different from that. If I lived in the darkest blue parts of the country, I'd probably, too, would have this attitude. I grew up in Texas, and it was not unusual, it was actually the opposite to be -- it would be thought of as unusual if people I knew, black, white, or brown, weren't interested in firearms. I joined the NRA at one point, I know many people who have. And, in fact, in our history as black Americans, the NRA as a civil rights organization has played critical roles. HARRIS: I am from those blue parts, I'm from southern California, and I love that, and that is probably why the whole obsession with guns kind of strikes me as odd. Also, there have been moments in history that when black people would go out to buy guns, that there were be response of restricting gun laws so that they couldn't have access to guns. I'm sure that's where that comes from. INGRAHAM: That's outrageous and racist. I certainly don't support that. I think it's ridiculous. HARRIS: That's American history. So I'm sure that is where that comes from. COOPER: Something that the NRA fought against, something that people like Robert Williams from the 1950s -- INGRAHAM: Sadly, Democrats actually supported those -- COOPER: -- stood up to fight against the Klan using an NRA membership and club to -- INGRAHAM: You know what I just thought about, Jonathan, and maybe you think about it this way. If there is such, again, a reflex against the police, the police are trigger-happy, they unfairly target African- Americans, and I can actually understand that sentiment. I really can. Then why wouldn't people want to take control of their own safety? Whoever you are, wherever you live, especially a dangerous part, I would rather be in charge of my own safety instead of some legislator making the call that, oh, no, these people can't have guns because guns are too dangerous. I thought the police were too dangerous for African-American communities. HARRIS: I think, one, you don't want to have open warfare on the streets between people and the police. COOPER: We've got that now in too many cities. HARRIS: But also I think it's because the idea that it doesn't sync up with the reality of the situation. INGRAHAM: I would just rather be in charge of my own safety and not farm it out to anybody else. COOPER: Absolutely. INGRAHAM: And another topic, guys. I want to get to this about some on the African-American left seem to have some type of anti-Semitic bias. I ask this as we learn of new unearthed comments from Marc Lamont Hill accusing Israeli Jews of poisoning Palestinian water. There is a petition circulating, though, calling for CNN to rehire him over his previous remarks when he gave that speech at the U.N., many people interpreted that to mean the destruction of Israel, the way he described it. Talk about it, Horace. COOPER: So one of the saddest things about this -- it's not just that this individual's comments were hateful, they were vicious and nasty, is the historic record of Jewish Americans working to make it possible for black Americans to achieve the civil rights efforts. The NAACP was founded with generous support from Jewish Americans. Even groups like the United Negro College Fund has received the record of Jewish Americans working for and advancing the interest of black America. It makes it really, really hurtful to hear the kind of comments like these that we continue to hear. INGRAHAM: Jonathan, do you think Marc Lamont Hill was fired inappropriately? HARRIS: It was inappropriate. I don't know how on earth you hear river to the sea and his entire speech was about human rights and treating Palestinians with respect. These are Palestinians -- INGRAHAM: You think Jews are poisoning the water of Palestinians? HARRIS: I don't know what he was talking about there. But there, literally, Palestinians in Israel are legally second- class citizens. He was talking about equality. Bernie Sanders himself has spoken out of some of the violence coming out of Israel -- INGRAHAM: From river to the sea? From river to the sea? That is the phrase anti-Semites use. COOPER: They make up these claims of our dog whistles, about complicated things about like is Elvis Presley being given the Medal of Freedom award a dog whistle. This actually is an anti-Semitic phrase. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, thank you so much. And for more on why Trump won and how the GOP could turn things around and do it again, grab a copy of my new paperback, "Busting the Barricades, What I Saw at the Populist Revolt" in bookstores everywhere. You will love it. And Donald Trump is the only president who has had to deal with a hostile press. Tonight's Last Bite, a special one, next. INGRAHAM: A live look at St. Martin's Episcopal Church were President George H. W. Bush lies in repose. And as we remember 41 tonight, we found this old clip from his days in the White House that might remind you of someone. It is tonight's Last Bite. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GEORGE H. W. BUSH, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: Funny how the gentlemen with the glasses. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. President. Mr. President, I have a very important question to ask you. BUSH: Only in Congress, they say I yield to the distinguished lady from Texas. But if you don't want to yield, I'm sorry I recognize the gentleman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, some members of your -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I would expect (ph) to yield but I would expect you to (ph) -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- some members of your administration -- BUSH: I've disappointed you so much. Please go ahead. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I love watching those old press conferences. And he had to wrestle the press, too, always interrupting, never wanting to yield the floor, but that's all the time we have left. Shannon Bream and the FOX NEWS @ NIGHT team, take it from here. Ms. Shannon? Load-Date: December 6, 2018 End of Document Breaking Special Counsel Investigation Developments; Special Counsel Robert Mueller Gave His Verdict To General Michael Flynn After A Year Of Prosecution, That He Would Not Go To Jail For Lying About His Transactions With Foreign Countries; Analysts And Other People Are Wondering Why Hillary Clinton And Other Top FBI Officials Were Not Punished For Obviously Obstructing The Law Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST December 4, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8836 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Catherine Herridge, Gregg Jarrett Guests: Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, Mark Penn, Matt Gaetz, Sean Spicer, Dan Bongino Body TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: "HANNITY" is up next in four seconds. And we'll have more on that unfolding story. SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: It becomes so timely. It's amazing. CARLSON: Again, I got the clock. HANNITY: HANNITY is pissed off tonight and I'm going to explain. Tucker, great show as always. Thank you. All right. Welcome to HANNITY. Just breaking, big news out of the Mueller witch-hunt. The special counsel just released its report on Lieutenant General Michael Flynn -- you know, the guy that served his country 33 years, five years in combat? Now, Mueller is recommending after all of this time no prison time for General Flynn. But the damage has been done. Flynn is, quote, a convicted felon, a victimless process crime based on evidence that is suspect. The FBI didn't think he lied. Now, you can't get him on an actual crime so the old perjury trap always becomes the fall back in the Mueller camp of Democratic donors. This is how America is going to treat a military hero? This is a sad and pathetic moment for not only the special counsel but for the country. We'll check in with Catherine Herridge. She has been reviewing as we have the full report. We will also react to this travesty of justice. And also tonight, we continue to monitor the dangerous situation at our southern border. Now, while the left active solid promoting illegal immigration with promises of open borders, sanctuary cities and potential citizenship. On this program, we have always told you the cold, hard truth. As we speak, there are thousands of migrants stuck south of the border in Tijuana, Mexico, camping out, squalid conditions, and now, a daily stream of migrants are sneaking into the United States and another border rush has happened. Now, coming up, we're going to do something you will never see on any other network. We're going to break down the serious and deadly risk. The numbers are staggering as it relates to illegal immigration. Also, we have alarming video we will share with you tonight. Look at this: young children being dropped over the border wall by smugglers, some as little as 2 years old. And later, you won't belief what a CNN panel said about President Trump because he was paying respect to the late President George H.W. Bush. It's vile. It shouldn't shock you coming from CNN. I'll explain in a mini monologue tonight. And last night, we told you about a teacher ruined Santa for kids in class. We'll you about that. Also, we have an update, plus, much, much more. Sit tight, buckle up, we have a big breaking news opening monologue that we begin with. After multiple delays, it has been a full year, a full year, ruined in General Flynn's life. Robert Mueller's report on the former national security advisor, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, three stars by the way, finally out. And he has been jerked around by this witch-hunt for almost an entire year. We know now he was coerced into pleading guilty only to a process crime, lying to investigators. Now, this despite fired FBI investigator James Comey, fired Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe and even Peter Strzok interviewed him, saying that there was zero indications that, in fact, Flynn ever lied, actually lied when they were in charge of the investigation. We begin tonight with a report in Washington with our own Catherine Herridge. Catherine, I actually have a report that you did, if I can put my glasses on I will find out the date on this thing. May 4th. In it, House Intel report, Comey testified FBI agent saw no physical indications of deception -- CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: That's right, uh-huh. HANNITY: -- by General Flynn. HERRIDGE: That's right. That came, Sean, from testimony given to the House Intelligence Committee by the former FBI Director James Comey, as well as his Deputy Andrew McCabe. And that testimony was given several months apart. They both reported the same thing that agents saw no signs of deception. In other words, they didn't think Flynn was lying to them when he tried to relate his conversations and contacts with the Russian ambassador. So, the question has always been, how do they get from, as McCabe said, a very poor foundation for false statements case to a guilty plea for lying to federal investigators? I'm still going through the records now. Just to break it down and keep it simple, this sentencing memo from the special counsel, Robert Mueller, says that Flynn lied about two separate issues. One was his contacts with the Russian ambassador during the transition and also his communications and business dealings with the Republic of Turkey. Based on high level cooperation with the special counsel, they are recommending the minimum on the sentencing spectrum, which would be no jail time, possibly probation. But, what everyone is going to be talking about is what's called an addendum. This is the document that the special counsel has put forward that lays out how former national security advisor Mike Flynn has been cooperating with the special counsel. And according to the addendum, which is heavily redacted, he has provided almost two dozen interviews with the special counsel and just taking the redactions out, what we can see is that those interviews have focused on contacts between the Trump presidential campaign and Russian officials so that's phase one. And then also in the second phase, the Trump transition team as well as Russian officials. So, we know Flynn has cooperated, provided information about both ends of the spectrum there, the campaign and then also the transition period. What I draw your attention to is these heavily redacted sections which the special counsel is withholding, they say, because of sensitive ongoing investigations. But what they do say in one section is that Flynn has been so important to their investigations because, quote: the defendant began providing information to the government not long after the government first sought his cooperation. His early cooperation was particularly valuable because he was one of the few people with long-term and first-hand insight regarding events and issues under investigation by the special counsel. So the bottom line is the special counsel is recommending the minimum, so no jail time for the former national security advisor. You are quite right. What's detailed here are process crimes, what they call lying to federal investigators, which is a violation of a thousand and one, typically a maximum of five years. But in this case, they are recommending the minimum. Lying about contacts with the Russian ambassador during the transition period and lying about his work with the Republic of Turkey. What we can't know at this point is what is in those redacted sections and how it may relate to other individuals and any future criminal prosecution in the coming days or weeks, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Catherine Herridge in Washington. We will get back to her later in the program tonight. HERRIDGE: Sure. HANNITY: When we talk about process crimes, wouldn't it be normal when you look at the date 2016 incoming national security advisor talking to his Russian counterpart. This is way over the line. Look, I'm going to go through this slowly. If you believe in this constitutional republic, equal justice under the law, application of our laws, you ought to be very concerned tonight and outraged. General Flynn's entire life has been put in limbo for an entire year for this? I have read the entire report. They even used the Logan Act, and actually rarely ever used or invoked. But Hillary and the Espionage Act, he has lost his House because he couldn't afford the attorneys. He had to sell his house. His life's work, 33 years of serving his country, washed down the drain for this? Reputation destroyed for this? Nobody in the FBI thought this man lied. Comey didn't think so. McCabe didn't think. Strzok of all people, he didn't think so, and he interviewed Lieutenant General Flynn. Thirty-three years of service, five years in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan. And this is the treatment? This is the thanks this country gives him? This is what -- this is how we treat people? What kind of justice system is this? His house nearly faced bankruptcy, literally and his world crashes before him and his entire family, and I would bet any amount of money that the only reason he signed this deal was -- well, it's the same old system. Well, we might have to go after your son worked with you and, you know, then we are going to invoke the Logan Act, which nobody invokes to go after him. So he could have made, instead of serving his country in the private sector a lot more money. But, now, he has to sell his house, literally fall on the sword for his family. And don't forget, we know that they got through what a lot of this information, through what? We knew he was the victim of illegal surveillance, illegal unmasking, illegal leaking of raw intelligence. What about the people involved in those crimes? His rights were violated at every level. Now, this is a disgrace and this is what we have been telling you. It's the glaring example of a two-tiered justice system in America. In Mueller's sentencing memo, it says, quote: Senior government leaders should be held to the highest standards. Can we start with Hillary Clinton and James Comey? Because we have a long list of Democrats and Trump haters who have lied under oath before Congress and have faced no consequences. For example, long-time Clinton aide Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin lied when they told the FBI investigators they had no knowledge of Hillary's private email except they used it, either DOJ official Bruce Ohr, Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson. They -- of course, one of them was lying due to their contradictory testimony. Nobody was held hostage like this for a year. Dirty dossier author Christopher Steele, his entire dossier has been debunked, he lied to the FBI, was fired for lying to the FBI. But he was still working with the Justice Department and Bruce Ohr to get to special counsel Mueller. James Clapper lied under oath about the National Surveillance Program. So too did John Brennan also likely lying under oath about leaking. And don't forget, James Comey himself lied under oath when he said the report about the Clinton investigation had not been written before she was interviewed. Lie. That was being written in May of 2016. They interviewed her in July of 2016. Comey second in command at the FBI. Andrew McCabe fired because of his pathetic pattern of lying. So, you are going to end up with something like this in his life? Where are the federal cases against any of these people? And that's the short list. Are charges going to be brought to all of those people? When are the screws going to be turned so they composed? Don't hold your breath. And according to Michael Goodwin, President Trump is now preparing and he should be preparing for all-out political war for good reason. Robert Mueller and his team of partisan Democrats, even Clinton attorneys and a pit bull that lost 9-0 in the Supreme Court cost tens of thousands of people their job, Andrew Weissmann, and put four people in jail overturned by the Fifth Circuit, they have set out to disrupt, discredit, and destroy the presidency of Donald J. Trump. No matter how many lives are ruined in the process. You can't get him on the crime. Let's get him on a process crime. Let's set a perjury trap. Now, we have a lot more all throughout the hour. We will check in with Congressman Mark Meadows and Congressman Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz. Also, let this monologue be a warning for anyone thinking about traveling through Mexico tonight to cross the southern border illegally. A "Hannity" investigation, it is not easy, it is not safe. And you are literally risking your life. If we had a wall up that people knew they could never get in, lives would be saved. Look at this from the "A.P." In the past four years, approximately 4,000 migrants have gone missing, 4,000, during their trek through Mexico. And "The A.P." is also reporting that the true number is likely, quote: their words, much higher and, quote, bodies may be lost in the desert and families may not report missing loved ones who were migrating illegally. Cartels have long scary history of kidnapping and slaving, murdering undocumented migrants traveling to the U.S. 2010, a mass grave containing 72 dead migrants was discovered. They were all murdered by a dangerous gang cartel called the Zetas Cartel. And just this year, a hundred migrants from the caravan, including children, have been kidnapped. That same cartel reportedly responsible for those who do successfully cross the border illegally, the risks continue even within the United States, as they trek through rural areas of Texas, north of the border. Hundreds of bodies have been found. Many dying of dehydration after getting lost in the desert. In one Texas county alone, over 550 bodies have been recovered since 2009. We talk about family separation. What about permanent family separation with people dying? Now, meanwhile, look at this video, fencing along the southern border poses a serious risk for illegal immigrants lest we build a sufficient wall. Shocking video from Arizona shows a suspected smuggler, look at this, tossing children over an 18-foot border wall. Others below attempting to catch the kids -- look at this -- on the other side. Take a look at that video. One as young as 2 years old. In Tijuana, where the majority of the 10,000 plus members of the migrant caravan are indefinitely stuck in limbo, the conditions there are horrific. They face squalid camp sites, insufficient facilities, rampant disease, a third of the migrants are now being treated for health-related issues. Tijuana's health department is reporting three confirmed cases of tuberculosis, four cases of HIV and AIDS. Four case of chickenpox and a hepatitis outbreak. And, yesterday, dozens of migrants attempted to sneak across the border near Tijuana scaling a 10-foot metal fence. That's the one probably Chuck Schumer wants. Others were able to squeeze through gaps in the fencing near the coast. Most were apprehended. I have no doubt the majority of migrants headed to the U.S. are merely in search of a better life and more opportunity. That's why if a wall is properly built, it will secure people on both sides and the door can be built and we can reform our immigration system. But, be warned, while immigrating into the U.S. is illegal and not easy, coming across illegally can take your live through the southern border, very harsh, risky, deadly. And, we often report the serious consequences illegal immigration poses to those already living in the U.S. We have a briefing I witnessed from Texas Governor Rick Perry -- 642,000 crimes committed at the hands of illegal immigrants in a seven-year period in Texas alone. Keep in mind, every single illegal immigrant that crosses our border costs you the taxpayers around 70 grand. And last year's total tax bill was a whopping $135 billion. A massive border wall would cost just a fraction of that. And not only would Americans literally -- would be given important opportunities here to control our borders, but it would be a deterrent for people that would take that treacherous journey through Mexico -- simple solution to a complex, costly, dangerous problem. It's time for the border wall to be fully funded and right now. But we're going to have more on that later in the show. We first get back to our top story as we are joined by North Carolina Congressman Mark Meadows, Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan, both leaders of the Freedom Caucus. All right. Jim, I will start with you tonight. REP. JIM JORDAN (R), OHIO: Sure. HANNITY: So, this is what we get. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: A man's life ruined. All of these other people have committed crimes that we know of. The information obtained on General Flynn was obtained illegally. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: OK. They put his family through hell. He has to sell his house. They threaten his family or he falls on the sword and signs something he knows is not true so they don't go after his family. Is that justice in America? JORDAN: No, it's not. And your monologue was right on target, Sean. Remember -- James Comey, director of the FBI, fired. Deputy Director McCabe lied three times under oath, fired. Chief counsel at the FBI demoted, Jim Baker, demoted and then left. FBI counsel Lisa Page demoted and left. And deputy head of counterintelligence Peter Strzok demoted and then fired. But even those five people thought Mike Flynn didn't lie when he was interviewed by the FBI. Only Bob Mueller did and now this is what happens. So, we've got to keep this in context. The top people at the FBI all demoted, left, or fired who have launched and ran the Clinton investigation, launched and ran the Russia investigation, put the fake dossier in front of the FISA court to get a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign, even they didn't think Mike Flynn lied when he was being interviewed by the FBI. And now, Bob Mueller is saying he should get the most lenient sentence possible but they still have the information they gave him. We'll find out what that is when we get the unredacted version of what Catherine was referring to tonight. HANNITY: Listen, but I'm looking, seriously, Mark Meadows through all of this here. And what they're saying here, days prior to the FBI's interview, the defendant, "The Washington Post" published a story alleging he had spoken with Russia's ambassador to the United States on December 29th. Wouldn't it be a normal process for an incoming director such as General Flynn to have conversations with his soon-to-be counterparts about important issues, even a change of policy that might be coming or different points of view that they may have considering we have diametrically opposed views between Obama and President Trump? REP. MARK MEADOWS (R), NORTH CAROLINA: Well, it would be a natural occurrence. And I can tell you, there are Democrats and Republicans on the Hill that probably have had a lot more conversations with the Russian ambassador than Mike Flynn ever thought about having. And, yet, here we are tonight looking at a three-star general being held guilty for missing a day and perhaps not recalling something. But here's the other thing that we have got to remember, Sean, is this, I've got looked at this report and, yes, everybody is going to focus on what has been redacted. But let's look at what's not in there. There is no suggestion that Michael Flynn had anything to do with collusion. He was with the transition team. He was part of the campaign. And, yet, there is no mention of collusion. I think it's good news for President Trump tonight that this is what has come down to, even though they said he substantially cooperated, I think he substantially cooperated to say that there was no collusion and we can look at it with that in mind. HANNITY: Well, let me look -- Jim Jordan, I'll read to you. "The Post" query whether the defendant's actions violated the Logan Act. The Logan Act is 18 USC 953. It's all but rarely federal statute prohibiting private diplomacy with federal nations. It is -- I think maybe, what, five or six times it's been used and most instances, the people get off innocent. So, this is what they are suggesting in this and that he was speaking, you know, as part of the president's incoming team, transition team, that they had spoken to the defendant, that he denied speaking to the Russian ambassador about sanctions, which the president had already said publicly if I'm not mistaken that in fact, oh, there's no -- you know, that's probably going to be what our policy is. That's it? This is what this is about? JORDAN: No, I know. And when you look at the larger framework, of course, first of all, he's a national security advisor. Of course, he's going to be talking to foreign dignitaries. And that's going to be -- and he's going to be doing that in the transition and you are exactly right what the president said earlier. But I keep trying to bring this back into a context. The guy we need to talk to, Sean, while the left is making all kinds of hay about this story tonight about Mr. Flynn, the guy we need to be talking to is Rod Rosenstein. It has been 10 and a half weeks since it was reported that he talked to subordinates about wearing a wire and invoking the 25th Amendment. And Mark and I and other members of Congress have yet to ask him one single question since that became public. That needs to happen in the next 26 days before Nancy Pelosi is speaker of the house. That's what I'm focused on. This is news tonight, I get, we've walked through this, but that's the real thing we have to focus on in the last weeks of this Congress. HANNITY: Let me go back to Mark Meadows. Congressman, if you go back to the House Intelligence Committee report, Comey testified that FBI agents saw no physical indications of deception. Now, that includes McCabe. That includes Comey. And that includes Peter Strzok of all people that interviewed him. They didn't think he lied. And, you know, and this sends a very bad message to everybody. And that is, boy, you better never talk to the FBI. Even though you might be inclined because have you -- I grew up with reverence for this great institution. You better never -- unless you are a Democrat then you can say anything you want. Then you are covered. That's what I take out of it. MEADOWS: Well, I think, here's -- it's not just in the House Intel. Jim and I have been part of testimony and briefings and questioning where that was reiterated not once, not twice, but three different times that they didn't believe that Mike Flynn lied. So, here's what we have got. We've got a situation where we are a year and a half into this investigation. It started back in May of 2017 and here we are in December. If this is the best we've got coming out of Mueller's investigation, it is time that he writes the report, closes it out, and let the American people focus on what is important to them, which is really about making sure they keep their jobs and the economy and what the president has been delivering on. So, it's time for Mueller to bring it to a close. Hopefully, this is the beginning of the end but it can come none too soon for most Americans. HANNITY: It's amazing to me, Jim, as I read through this. Quoting "The Washington Post", I'll give you one example, and they talk again about 18 USC 953, that's the Logan Act, and subsequent to -- they literally quote "The Washington Post", in an article. Prior to the defendant's FBI interview, members of president-elect's Trump transition team, I think they might be talking about Vice President Pence publicly stated that they had spoken to the defendant and he denied speaking to the Russian ambassador about the sanctions. Look, I don't know what your guys' lives are like. I can tell you what my life is like. The number of conversations I have on a daily basis, if you ask me who I talked to yesterday, I will not be able to recall with any sense of certainty. Most people live busy lives. I was there, I watched this. This was as busy as a time as anything else and I'm sure there are a lot of pleasantries back and forth. We're going to work on a lot of issues together, which would seem perfectly appropriate to me. JORDAN: Yes. Look, and if they thought he said something that wasn't accurate, why not circle back with him. After all, he served our country, was a three star general. Why not circle back with him? And as we pointed out several times, the FBI, these key people, the same FBI who I think took something to the FISA court that they didn't check out themselves, those same people said we didn't think he was misleading us at all. But if there was some kind of question, give -- circle back to the general and find out, instead of using it to get the information that looks like Mr. Mueller was trying to get. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Mark, go ahead. MEADOWS: One other thing that we've got to realize, Jim and I have been in these interviews and testimony, there is a whole lot more that we can look at in terms of the conversations that FBI agents and previous agents have had that call into question whether they are being truthful or not than what we see with General Flynn. And this Logan Act, it's a relic of a bygone era. It was meant and designed to say, we want to make sure you are speaking on behalf of a legitimate government. It's time that we look at this in a very different light. HANNITY: Yes. I think we have to look at in a different light. I just gave you, Mark, a list. We just laid out. Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, all of these people who lied before Congress, all of them. We know that they lied. Then we have Hillary Clinton. James Comey wrote this exoneration in early May with Peter Strzok. He lied and said he wasn't beginning the writing of that exoneration. That's a lie by him. By the way, he also might have issues with the Espionage Act when he leaked information to the professor friend for the very purpose of getting it to the "New York Times" so that might spark the appointment of a special counsel. He should have the same legal jeopardies. Hillary's, you know, mom and pop shop bathroom closet server, we believe at least six foreign entities hacked into it. We know it's a violation of the Espionage Act. We know that her aides emailed that very site and had email addresses from that site. I don't see any of them going through what a 33- year veteran, five years of combat veteran has gone through, guy that served his country. Do you? Why is there this double standard? MEADOWS: Well, there is a double standard it means if you are associated with the Trump team, the Trump campaign and the Trump administration, you come under greater scrutiny than a lot of other people that have been here and playing the game here in Washington, D.C. That must come to an end. It will come to an end. Guys like Jim and I are willing to hold them accountable. But enough with the talk. Let's get Rod Rosenstein in here and make sure that he testifies and actually tells the American people what he said or didn't say. HANNITY: Well, I have a tape. We played it the other night, Jim Jordan, of James Comey literally saying well, I lie, you know, I have lied and McCabe lied. But you can still lie and be a good person. The exact words of James Comey. JORDAN: Sean, James Comey was saying he didn't want to come testify in a closed door session with Congress because of leaks. This is the guy who leaked the information to the "New York Times" to create the momentum for the special counsel. So, come on. Mark is exactly right. You are exactly right. There is two standards, one for us regular folk, a different set if you are part of the political establishment. That's what drives Americans crazy. HANNITY: All right. Thank you both. Freedom Caucus members Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan, we appreciate it. JORDAN: Thank you. HANNITY: We have a lot more on this breaking news with Mueller recommending no prison time for former national security advisor Michael Flynn. We bring in Florida Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz, former Clinton pollster Mark Penn. Mark, you have been extraordinarily critical of the process crimes that are involved here. We have in the last week talked to Jerome Corsi. He was offered a plea deal, 72 years old. If -- he doesn't take it because he says I can't lie under oath before God, which by the way, God bless him for having a heart to tell the truth. But it would have made his life easier if he did. And in an interview with me here and on my radio show for an hour, he literally said they were telling him what -- they wanted him to say. If he just said it he wouldn't get probation. He wouldn't go to jail. His life would be great. Now, he risks dying in jail. We have all of these process crimes but no underlying crimes. MARK PENN, FORMER CLINTON POLLSTER AND ADVISER: Well, I think that's exactly right. I think what I observed is that the independent counsel's office, instead of getting people to sing is getting people to plead guilty to things so they can build a circumstantial case against the president in a report completely misusing the judicial process. Now, look, 19 interviews with someone suggests maybe they didn't like what he had to say in the first ten. That is -- that is incredible number of interviews to get somebody to wind up. And let's all relax here. If, in fact, General Flynn was colluding with the Russians, he wouldn't be getting no prison time. That means on its face, he was not colluding with the Russians. And if he had things to say about a transition team doing the transition, I'm sure they had communications with Taiwan, with China, with South Korea. I mean, this is what transition teams do. HANNITY: During the whole Clinton impeachment issue, and you were working for the Clintons for years as their pollster. Do you remember there was never any proportionality? Here we have a guy that served his country 33 years, five years of combat. And he is the incoming -- you know, serving his country, national security advisor, and he is meeting with his future counterpart, literally three weeks away. And they are having discussions and getting to know each other. And maybe he didn't remember. Maybe he didn't want to remember. I don't know. But it's so insignificant to me. I know they are recommending no charges here and trying to help out he helped us here and here and here and it's a big mystery of the media. If they had evidence of collusion, wouldn't we know by now? PENN: Well, as I said, you would know it in the sentencing because it's not what he is being sentenced for. They wanted to get him to something so that when President Trump said, hey, maybe you should consider, you know, the Flynn case and the situation in totality, that, in fact, they would find something here that Flynn did, so they could make it look like the president was obstructing justice, when in reality here, the use of the Logan Act was outrageous. The fact that FBI agents went to question him in the first place was really part of what seems to me, something of an effort-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Come on, unauthorized private diplomacy for a guy-- PENN: Well. HANNITY: -- that's going to be in power in 20 days. PENN: Right. And looking Senator Kerry went recently to visit the foreign affairs ministries of Iran themselves in person. So, obviously, somebody coming in and transition would be totally inappropriate to do this. But, remember, the Obama did not like General Flynn. They did not want him back in government. HANNITY: Let me go to Matt Gaetz. We just got this in. Rudy Giuliani, the president's attorney has come out with a statement and he likened the offense in the Flynn guilty plea to spitting on the sidewalk with major repercussions for many. And he said that there was nothing in the sentencing memo at all to suggest collusion. Denounce the Mueller team and there was over zealous media inspired prosecutors and that quote, "they are sick puppies," your reaction? REP. MATT GAETZ, (R) FLORIDA: Well, I think that Mayor Giuliani had pretty stiff penalties for spitting on the sidewalk in New York during his time there. But the great irony, Sean, is that Robert Mueller has achieved the same outcome that Donald Trump was at. I mean, Robert Mueller has essentially said to the court lay off of Mike Flynn. He is a good guy. If Trump said the same thing to Comey they apparently want to throw him in jail for it. It shows the double standard. Look, we would not even be talking about Michael Flynn right now if it were not for the initial interviews he did with, wait for it, Peter Strzok. The very same Peter Strzok who had the insurance policy against the Trump presidency. The same Peter Strzok who said no we will stop him. And most importantly, the same Peter Strzok who when talking to his girlfriend 10 months into this investigation after Michael Flynn's story had already been told was saying there is no there-there. There is no evidence of collusion with Michael Flynn or President Trump or anyone else. This whole thing is a joke. Michael Flynn won't be facing any prison time but he would have faced no legal jeopardy at all if he just wouldn't have pled guilty because they would have never gotten a conviction with Peter Strzok as their star witness. HANNITY: OK. Let's go through where we are here with the sentencing issues. And Mark, you actually had a really good column on this. All right so, Michael Flynn we got process crime, lying to the FBI. But the FBI we know didn't think he lied. And they did surveil him illegally, unmask him illegally and leaked raw intelligence illegally but let's forget that part, you know, we got it illegally. All right. So, he has a process crime. Michael Cohen, taxicab medallions and taxes, that's where we got and he lied to Congress, OK? I listed all these Democrats that lied to Congress they don't get anything. George Papadopoulos, again, two weeks, lying to Congress. Then we go to Paul Manafort. OK. Paul Manafort, loan application and tax issues. Then Jerome Corsi, you know, they want him to sign on to lying to the FBI. Roger Stone, who knows what they are going to do with him. And I'm thinking are we going to apply this to the Podestas? Did they always for the FARA Act? Did they always are they going to look into it if they did it the right way? And they did all that -- I don't know that they have or haven't or anybody else that might have violated this? Where is -- why are we here two years later where we are going back to 2007 and we're going back to 3 weeks before you are about to take the position and you're meeting with counterparts? Why are we here? PENN: Look, we are here because an effort was begun to have an insurance policy against Donald Trump winning the presidency and, you know, I spent a year fighting the independent counsel for President Clinton. I thought that was wrong. I thought this has been wrong from the beginning the kind of pleas here where the crimes are created by the independent counsel. Conveniently he gets them to plead in areas of lying where he wants them to plead after finding unrelated offenses. This is star chamber tactics. I've said that for a long time. You are seeing it come it to the fore. And with Flynn. HANNITY: It's scary. PENN: I think with Papadopoulos getting two weeks from a P.R.-- HANNITY: Stupid. PENN: -- point of view I had to come forward with no jail for Flynn or he would have looked even worse. And this Mueller effort is a P.R. effort as much as it is a real effort. HANNITY: OK. But here's what we know. Here's what we know. We know that Hillary had a private server, illegally. And we know she had top secret classified and special access programming information, congressman, on that server. Then we know that an exoneration was written in May of 2016 but they interviewed her or 16 other people associated with those issues. And three days after the interview they basically laid out that she violated the law but they give her a pass. OK. Then they begin this whole witch-hunt into the whole Russia thing. Long -- by the way, long before this December so-called discussion that Flynn had with his soon-to-be counterpart. Here is what is interesting to me. Then we do have some Russia collusion in the 2016 election. We have Hillary and the DNC's bought and paid for unverified, uncorroborated dossier was that debunked. We know it was used to obtain a FISA warrant, four separate FISA applications against the Trump campaign associate. We know that they lied to the FISA court. There were grand omissions in the FISA report. The bulk of information was Hillary Clinton's bought and paid dossier. They didn't tell the judges it was her document. We know that false information hookers peeing in beds was leaked to the American people before the election to influence their vote with Russian lies. And then we know that it was used post elections to bludgeon Donald Trump and get the appointment of Robert Mueller because they had a media leak strategy followed by an insurance policy. And where is the -- when are these people going to jail? Never mind the intelligence abuses, surveillance abuses, et cetera? GAETZ: Well, they are not. And the reason they are not going to go to jail is that Jeff Sessions was a low energy attorney general who never really brought the resources to bear to hold them accountable. It's deeply troubling. It's probably the reason why Jeff Sessions isn't there. The real question, Sean, isn't whether or not there's a double standard. Your fact pattern lays that out. The question why is. I think that the inspector general gave us the answer. When he said that never before, never in the history of the FBI had he seen the same people involved in that Hillary Clinton investigation migrate over and start investigating the other contender in the presidential race Donald Trump. And then lo and behold they end up on the Mueller team. And so, I think a big part of the reason why that there is this attack on the president is because you got people covering up for failing to do their job as it related to you Hillary Clinton or actively trying to help Hillary Clinton avoid consequences for her crimes. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. GAETZ: The personnel overly are outrageous. Jeannie Rhee -- HANNITY: Stay right there. GAETZ: Yes, sure. HANNITY: Joining us on the phone number one New York Times bestseller "The Russia Hoax, the Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump" Fox News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett. Well, I know you've read it. I read it now multiple times. And the more I read it the angrier I get. Because this is it. This is how we treat a guy that served his country all these years and put his family through hell and have to sell your house because you can't afford the attorneys to keep going in defending yourself. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: well, Representative Gaetz is correct that had this case been brought to trial Mueller would lose and Flynn would win. I've read the sentencing memo, nothing about collusion. The addendum, very short, five pages, heavily redacted. It says Flynn helped in two cases, two areas. One, a criminal case not handled by Mueller, and, therefore, not collusion related. And the other area was discussions that the Trump transition team had with foreign governments including Russia. But that's not collusion either because the election was over. So, you know, it sort of makes you wonder what's Mueller doing here? Is he going after people in the Trump transition team for a Logan Act violation interfering with foreign diplomacy? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How many times does the Logan Act-- JARRETT: That's absurd because the transition team is allowed to contact foreign governments. HANNITY: The Logan Act 18 USC 1953, now they forget about 18 USC 793, the Espionage Act where I believe and you believe that both Comey and Hillary could very well, we believe they violated it, we have identified about 18 crimes with Rudy Giuliani that Hillary probably commit you had. I mention I just went through the whole litany of everything that happened with the Clinton dossier. Real Russian collusion, really paid for, really designed and used to influence the election. But let's got to Logan Act in particular because that's what they site here. How often has that been invoked that federal statute which prohibited unauthorized private diplomacy with foreign nations. Wouldn't an incoming administration official at this level, wouldn't it be normal to have contact with your soon-to-be-counterpart? JARRETT: Yes. In fact, in my book I interviewed the author of an expert who wrote a book himself on transition and he said are you kidding me? It would be malpractice for an incoming administration not to have conversations with Russian and other governments. That's what they are supposed to do. You have conversations to prepare the incoming administration and he laughed when I suggested that it could possibly be a Logan Act violation. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me -- let me ask-- JARRETT: Nobody has ever been prosecuted successfully under the Logan Act. HANNITY: The night you released your book, when it finally came out, we had been telling the audience. I watched you write the whole thing. Do you remember the specific of the conversation we had before we went on the air? Do you recall? JARRETT: You said that the premise would be proven true. HANNITY: No, I did -- well, if I asked you the details of that conversation, how many details would -- this is big -- one of the biggest days of your life. This book I told you this book would go number one of the New York Times list and it did for six weeks in a row. And, but here is the point you wouldn't be able to recall, would you what we really talked about off air. JARRETT: No, of course not. HANNITY: So, how do they expect, how do they expect people to recall specifics in conversations with people? And what does it say about somebody like myself whose mother was a prison guard and my father worked in family court probation and all my cousins were cops, and two guys were deity that made it to the FBI. What does it say if you want to cooperate with institutions that we grew up revering and you get it wrong and it's a political case this is how you are going to be treated? The only recommendation I could give somebody is don't help, don't open your mouth. JARRETT: Right. If the FBI or Robert Mueller, God forbid, comes knocking at your door, do not talk to them. Go to the nearest lawyer. And you should not provide documents. You should not provide any information whatsoever. Because they will entrap you and smear you in a perjury trap. HANNITY: All right. JARRETT: You know, they play a game of got you. If you forget one conversation or one e-mail that they have their grubby hands on, they will charge you with lying. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But this is -- but this is now-- JARRETT: And that's what they did to Michael Flynn. His recollection of a conversation with Kislyak was different than the FBI's version of events. HANNITY: But the FBI-- JARRETT: Well, that's not a crime but Mueller makes it a crime. HANNITY: And that's the point. And every single example we have from Michael Cohen taxicabs well, he did admit to lying to Congress. He changed this testimony. We'll out that aside. Tax issues, loan application issues with Manafort had nothing to do with Russia long before he was near Donald Trump and his life. The same with tax issues with him. You look at all the other, George Papadopoulos, really? Two weeks in jail, again, another process crime. It seems like Mueller's goal at this point is to go after Trump and collusion in two different areas. Which is why he is trying so hard to tie people that I interviewed in the last week both Jerome Corsi and Roger Stone to WikiLeaks, an saying they were trying to get that information and then give that information to the Trump campaign. Now, both of them have told me in strong terms that they never talked to Julian Assange, they never talked to WikiLeaks. They never talked to any representatives of WikiLeaks. But after the DNC leak, I assume they wanted the information. They were speculating that he might have more or in the case of Roger Stone he says a friend told him that he had more. So, like the Pentagon papers case, even if they did have the information, it wouldn't be illegal for them to get it if they didn't conspire to get it and steal it or hack into somebody's system to get it, correct? JARRETT: That's exactly right. Let's assume that Jerome Corsi or Roger Stone successfully made contact with Assange and gained information and passed it along to the Trump campaign that passed it along to Americans. That's not a crime. That's what I tried to do. That's what you did. You are the only one who successfully interviewed Assange. That is not crime. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And by the way, and he said to me-- JARRETT: And the problem is that Mueller is criminalizing acts that are not criminal at all and weaponizing the system of justice for partisan purposes. HANNITY: But didn't they illegally surveil, unmask, and leak raw intelligence on Michael Flynn to get to this point? Didn't they steal the information illegally? Isn't that how we got here? JARRETT: Absolutely they did. And they unmask for a variety of individuals. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Who is going to be held responsible for that? JARRETT: And none of those people who were involved in the unmasking have been properly investigated or prosecuted which is a crime. So, you know, there is a two-tier system of justice here. If you are friends of Bill and Hill and Obama you can do anything. If you are remotely associated with Donald Trump they will come after you. HANNITY: All right. Last question and I think this important. Assange, if he didn't hack it himself and he was given the information, wouldn't the Pentagon papers' case hold for him similarly the New York Times published the exact same thing. JARRETT: Yes. It probably would, although it's a debatable subject as to whether or not Assange qualifies as, you know, a journalist or a news organization WikiLeaks. But, nevertheless, you know-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, if he didn't hack it and he was given information which have been given to him in the past it would seem that the six-three Supreme Court decision the Pentagon papers case would apply to anybody, especially because that information then also was used by another news organizations. JARRETT: If he were prosecuted, he'd have an excellent defense. Let's put it that way. HANNITY: All right. Thank you all for being with us. All right. We have a lot more to get to tonight. We'll have more on the breaking news. Catherine Herridge now has been combing through Mueller's filing and she has found some very interesting tidbits. Also, Sean Spicer, Dan Bongino, big breaking news night, stay with us. HANNITY: All right. This is a Fox News alert, Robert Mueller finally releasing his sentencing report a year later on general -- Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. With more from Washington, she has been combing through the details. Look, I've read it over and over again but you still find little nuggets every time you read it. CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CHIEF INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: That's right. It's definitely worth, the folks reading at home taking the time to read the documents themselves. It's not that long and they can reach their own assessments based on what's public. And also, Sean, was blacked out or heavily redacted. Some of the things that now jumped out at me is that when you look at one of the first violations, which is lying to federal investigators, you know, if you just think back to October of this year, a senior FBI official was found by the Justice Department inspector general to have lied about sports tickets they received from a television journalist who was covering that department, yet there was no prosecution in that case. And I think that goes to the idea that critics say there is a double standard in the Mueller probe. The second is this lying about work on behalf of the Republic of Turkey. This is a violation of something called FARA, the Foreign Agent Registration Act. In this particular case, the special counsel makes the argument that General Flynn lied about his activities for the Republic of Turkey and a project his company was doing with them. Also wrote an op-ed on their behalf, lied about how that was initiated. But for most people, FARA violations are kind of paperwork problems and once the paperwork is resolved and gotten in order, it does not result in a criminal prosecution. And the third thing, if I could, that jumped out at me is that when you read sort of the statement recommending a reduced sentence for Michael Flynn for his lengthy cooperation with a special counsel, there is a reference to this January 2017 Washington Post story, I know you've been talking about it but this really is one of the important data points in the investigation. It was the first time that there was a leak about Mike Flynn and the conversations he had with the Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at that time. As I recall, Mike Flynn was outside of the country so his communications even as an American citizen would have been picked up by the intelligence community but in those circumstances, the American citizen's identity is hidden in what they call anonymized so they are just U.S. person one. But in this case, that's-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: If I may-- HERRIDGE: Yes, go ahead, please. HANNITY: I don't mean to interrupt you but I think the audience needs to know, there is a process -- I understand he's out of the country -- but there is a process when we know that there is an American citizen on the line. HERRIDGE: Correct. HANNITY: That a process called minimization. HERRIDGE: Correct. HANNITY: They are supposed to not -- and more importantly, they're not supposed to identify -- they would usually identify as American citizen unless there was clear-- HERRIDGE: That's right. HANNITY: -- terrorist talk or something so outrageous that it was a national security issue. HERRIDGE: That's right. So, this is what they call the unmasking controversy that Republicans have been so focused on and in one case, the House intelligence committee found that a former Obama administration official had unmasked over 200 names, or their office had come in the course of one year. And that's highly unusual activity. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: In 2016, Samantha Powers it was over 300. HERRIDGE: That's correct. HANNITY: Yes. HERRIDGE: So, the thing people need to know at home, is that when someone leaks the name of an American citizen whose conversations have been picked up in the courts of foreign intelligence gathering at the very least, that is a mishandling of classified information or a disclosure under USC 798. And those are criminally prosecutable actions, Sean. HANNITY: But also, we know the Logan Act, for example, 18 USC 953 rarely invoked federal statute prohibiting unauthorized private diplomacy with foreign nations, but there's also talking to a future counterpart, it's pretty unbelievable. Catherine, great-- (CROSSTALK) HERRIDGE: Folks at home can read the documents and decide for themselves whether they think it's an equal application of the law-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Easy ready. HERRIDGE: -- or whether there was a separate set of rules. Yes. HANNITY: All right. Great job for us tonight. Thank you, Catherine Herridge-- (CROSSTALK) HERRIDGE: You're welcome. HANNITY: -- in Washington. Joining us now, we don't have a lot of time. Dan Bongino, Sean Spicer. You know, I am glad about one thing in this document and that is they talked about his 33 years of service, five years combat duty. You know, retired three-star general. But, it says, however, senior government leaders should be held to the highest standards. Dan Bongino, are we holding Hillary Clinton to the high standards? Are we holding James Comey? McCabe, Strzok, Page and the rest of this as Joe DiGenova said "bad cops, corrupt cops?" A few, not rank and file. Those at the top that abuse power or lied to the FISA courts. Do we hold them to the highest standards? DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: No, of course not. I mean, this entire case was based on the dossier. Let's just go through the top of the FBI, people you're talking about. James Comey said it was salacious and unverified. Andy McCabe said they would have -- he's the number two at the FBI, said they would have had no case without the dossier. Bill Price, the number three said they hadn't even verified it, that it was in its infancy. Peter Strzok who was the lead investigator at the FBI, in his own text said there was possibly no there-there. And Lisa Page, the lawyer in the FBI in (Inaudible) case, Sean, quote, said "It could be literally nothing." (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I only have-- BONGINO: That's the upper level of the FBI on the Trump case. HANNITY: I apologize to both of you, I only have 30 seconds and we will have you both back. I apologize because of the news. Last word, Sean. SEAN SPICER, FORMER UNITED STATES WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I would just say that the timing of this is what concerns me. The president had probably the best seven days of his administration between the G20, China, the USMCA signing, and the way that he is pitch-perfectly, he and the first lady have handled it-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. We'll get back to this. SPICER: -- to Bush presidency's funeral, it's a shame that this is happening now. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I apologize to both of you. We'll continue. HANNITY: When you really look at this in its entirety and you've got a man with 33 years of service, five years combat duty, an entire year of his life ruined on a process crime, and all these other people go free. We are in the middle of a constitutional crisis - equal justice, equal application of our laws. We'll have more tomorrow. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham, I wish I had an extra hour tonight. Load-Date: December 5, 2018 End of Document Michael Flynn's sentencing, Mueller has recommended no jail time on Flynns' substantial help to the investigation; Confederate statue "Silent Sam" to be moved as students protest stating the statue is racist Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST December 4, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8047 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Sol Wisenberg, Jason Chaffetz, Victor Davis Hanson Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: I wish you would say, go ahead, Hannity. I'm taking the night off. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Oh yes, whatever. OK, bye. HANNITY: All right. Welcome to the Laura Ingraham show. I'm Hannity filling in for Laura. INGRAHAM: Hey Sean, you know what I was looking as I was listening to your show tonight? All of the Cheryl Mills, like people -- people forget there is so much stuff that happened from the fall of 2016 to today. Obviously, the Mueller, all the stuff we are learning about with Flynn tonight, but it just swamps all of this other stuff that happened. We are going to talk about it with Chaffetz and -- HANNITY: You know what frightens me though? This man's life -- this is how we treat our heroes because he didn't remember a fact and the lying and the FBI didn't even think this guy lied. This is wrong and I am worried that we have one justice system if you are a Democrat or Hillary, and another for the rest of us. That's not right. INGRAHAM: Or Cheryl Mills, you know. Sean, I agree with you. I think, again, our viewers and people across the country, a lot of the stuff is complicated, their agenda (ph) and there is redactions and trying to follow what the substantial assistance Flynn gave, we don't really know. It is all kind of axed (ph) out. HANNITY: You know too, remember, this is all information they obtained illegally against General Flynn. INGRAHAM: Yes, and also, it wasn't collusion before the election. To throw the election to Russia, all -- that's all -- at least to what we know, that is out the window. That is certainly nothing to do with Flynn. So, I think that's what people have to keep their frame around, the frame of reference and the timing of what they are saying. HANNITY: Well said. INGRAHAM: A false statement is never good, you know, you can't lie to investigators, but you also don't use the scam special counsel investigations to go trolling on this magic mission to try to find wrongdoing where it doesn't exist and that's what I've always been concerned about. HANNITY: I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I think he deserves better than this. INGRAHAM: Well, I agree. Sean, thanks so much. It was a fantastic show. HANNITY: Have a great show Laura. Thank you. INGRAHAM: All right. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is "The Ingraham Angle" on a very busy news night here in Washington. This show has it all for you. We have politics, culture, startling rejection of history, but first. Breaking news, as I just said in the Mueller probe, as the documents, sentencing documents against former Trump national security advisor Michael Flynn just dropped. These are heavily redacted documents revealing among other things that Flynn, a former three-star general, provided substantial assistance and gave 19 interviews, sat 19 times before the special counsel and other DOJ investigations. Now, as a result of Flynn's cooperation, Mueller and his team are recommending no jail time. It's important to note, the documents presented tonight do not provide specifics about what exactly Mueller has learned from Flynn, only that he provided documents and communications. Now, what issues those communications refer to tonight is anyone's guess. Remember, this has been a saga that has enveloped the entirety of Donald Trump's presidency, and in the process destroyed, as Sean said, this good man's life. Even if Flynn does serve no prison time, the judge agrees with the prosecutor here, imagine how his life has been thrown into complete turmoil, and for what? Was this 18-month process good for the country? Are we better off? Did we stave off future Russian involvement in our elections because a former three-star general had to bow to the altar of Bob Mueller and the special counsel, the special counsel helpers? I think we have to go through this methodically tonight, and we are going to do this. Real questions remain and real questions must be answered as this investigation continues to move forward, although it looks like it is wrapping up. Here now, two men who have been studying this report. Former deputy independent counsel and Whitewater investigator Sol Wisenberg and former House Oversight Chair and Fox News contributor, Jason Chaffetz, and Victor Davis Hanson, is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and author of the forthcoming book, "The Case for Trump," and he joins us now. Sol, let's start with you. Your thoughts after reading these documents? SOL WISENBERG, FORMER INDEPENDENT DEPUTY COUNSEL: Well, my thoughts are first of all, the general would have received probation no matter what. Whether he cooperated a little or cooperated a lot. Like you say, the key parts of how he assisted have been redacted. What stands out the most is that a lot of people thought Mueller was going to use the sentencing memos to tell the world about his case because he is afraid that his final memo may not be publicized. He didn't do that here. In fact, he showed remarkable professionalism by keeping redacted. He could have said, here is how he helped and it could've been bombshell, and he didn't do that. So I think to me, that is the big take away. The memo itself is kind of a dud because all the good stuff is redacted. INGRAHAM: Well Jason, here is part of the memo, "Given the defendant's substantial assistance and other considerations set forth below, a sentence at the low end of the guideline range including a sentence that doesn't impose a term of incarceration is appropriate and warranted." I guess it is the meaning of "substantial assistance." JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, you can be polite, you can comply. You can answer all of the questions. Donald Trump has answered all their questions. He has been as open and transparent as anything, but I think Sol is right. There was no bombshell because there is no bombshell! It's that simple. If they had him on collusion with Russia to affect the election, then absolutely they would have gone after him. But -- INGRAHAM: He pled to two counts to 1001, right? Two counts of lying to investigators. CHAFFETZ: But this is a process crime. You should have filled out the proper paperwork. We are not going to hear to excuse it but it is the inconsistent application of the law that drives everybody crazy. I can't tell you how many people came before the oversight committee when I was the chairman and they lied to us. We referred it to the Department of Justice and said we are not interested. INGRAHAM: No, we can't do anything about it. CHAFFETZ: But then it's with Donald Trump, and you bet you. They will go after -- they gave immunity to Hillary Clinton's closest advisor. INGRAHAM: I was just reading the Cheryl Mills stuff. I mean, these are things that I forgot until tonight. WISENBERG: But Mueller didn't do that. In fairness to Mueller, that's not his jurisdiction. So, it is unfair. You can say it is unfair -- CHAFFETZ: It is the Department of Justice -- WISENBERG: But Mueller has a specific thing that he is supposed to look at. He is not supposed to look at Cheryl Mills. CHAFFETZ: But he is not looking at collusion with Russia and the election. This stuff happened after that. INGRAHAM: Well, it is interesting and VDH, I want to get you in on this because the actions we are talking about here, his conversation with the FBI that they didn't believe included lies. They did not believe -- including Peter Strzok, who did the interview with Flynn. He went back to headquarters and they didn't think he lied. Those were the 1001 violations, lying reportedly about his conversation with the Russian ambassador. Whether that conversation included a conversation about referenced to easing up on the sanctions, or don't go crazy on the sanctions. In other words, we are coming in, we're going to get rid of the sanctions. And apparently, he either misremembered or wasn't forthcoming on that. It didn't go into -- well what happened before this in 2016? Were you setting up some deal to make it easier for Russia to interfere in our elections? Which, again, is what the special counsel was set up to examine, that type of collusion. Even with the redactions, when it comes to Flynn, at least, there wasn't any collusion on his part. The question is whether any of the figures associated with the Trump administration or Trump campaign that could be still as Sol alluded to, caught up in this dragnet. VICTOR DAVID HANSON, SENIOR FELLOW, THE HOOVER INSTITUTION: I think just as historian when I look for two things in these Mueller stories. One, does the Logan Act appear and it was referenced in this, and one, does the Foreign Agents Act -- INGRAHAM: FARA. HANSON: -- the FARA Act appear. And when that appears and tells me they really don't have anything only because we've only had two people prosecuted on the Logan Act. John Kerry all of August and September met with the Iranian foreign ambassador in Paris and he admitted that he was discussing the Iran deal which is antithetical to the efforts of the present administration. Nobody called that a Logan violation or seriously did. And we have al sorts of the swamp in Washington. Everybody is dealing with foreign agents. I mean, they are representative government so Christopher Steele was not a U.S. citizen. He was a foreign British subject and he was supplying data to the Hillary -- Clinton campaign for money. And he was seeding it throughout the government. Nobody talked about the agents there. And then more importantly, in that document there is worry that Flynn was working in a way that was unethical with the Turkish government or maybe with the Russian government, but it had no effect because when Donald Trump came in, when you look at Russian sanctions, the oil policy of the U.S., increasing production, arming the Ukraine, attacking Russians in Syria or whether it was ending the Obama romance with Erdogan and Turkey. We were much tougher on Turkey in much tougher on Russia. And finally, I mean, if you want to reduce everything, you get down to one point, all of these stories, the surveillance, the entire collusion comes back to the Steele dossier, and that was the source of the FISA warrant that was used in part at least to collate testimony with surveillance. And we know now that although they said it was a bot document, nobody ever told the FISA court judges that it was paid for by Hillary Clinton. INGRAHAM: Absolutely not. HANSON: Nobody ever told them that Christopher Steele, the author of that dossier had been let go as unreliable. Nobody ever told the FISA court judges that the news accounts they presented to those courts were circular and were based on the dossier itself. So that was kind of a poison tree and a lot of these people have said things in numerous testimonies not knowing that that would be collated with a surveillance, and then we get into the unmasking. And then finally -- this is a finally, 25 people in the DOJ or FBI have been reassigned, chose to be retired or were fired in association to this entire mess. Nobody is talking about it. I can't think of any time in U.S. history where the two top intelligence agencies, the head of those agencies, Jim Clapper and John Brennan, not only lied under oath to a congressional committee, admitted they lied under oath, and had entire exemptions. So, I know it's not YouTube all the time, but that is really disturbing that we have this Mueller trap and then we have all of these violations that -- so when Mueller starts to be so sanctimonious and quote the Logan Act and the Foreign Agent Registration Act and government officials got to be above the law. Well, yes, but that is not happening. So we loose public confidence. INGRAHAM: Well, it is kind of rich. It wasn't Mueller himself, but what preceded Mueller to set up this entire investigation from the beginning. And so we have gone over this meticulously. The reference to his military service, his exemplary public record, how common is that in a sentencing document such as this, taking that into account as a mitigating circumstance. I mean, it seems to kind of makes sense, but -- WISENBERG: It is very common if you are the defense attorney doing this memo and it's common if you are the government and that client has helped you. But I wanted to say one thing about Flynn, there is nobody in town who really believes that Flynn would have pled guilty unless Mueller had something against one of his family members. Of course, there is -- INGRAHAM: Or threatened his family members. WISENBERG: Right. And that is often done by prosecutors and I don't know of anybody who thinks that Flynn would have pled if that wasn't out there. And we just don't know what that is. I do want to say in Mueller's defense, there is a mention of the Logan Act here but Mueller does not say in any way that Flynn violated -- INGRAHAM: Yes, but certainly not in there. WISENBERG: But the other thing to keep in mind -- the other thing to keep in mind is that Mueller does say -- he does not say what it is, but Mueller does say that Flynn provided important information about connections between the Trump campaign and the Russian government or attempts to make connections. All I'm saying is, you're right, he doesn't say Flynn did that, but he does say that Flynn provided information. So again, if there is nothing there, that may be one reason Mueller is not talking about it, or it may be that Mueller is a professional and it's just not appropriate to release that information. INGRAHAM: There is a lot of redaction too. The left tonight is going crazy. They are like, OK, it's Downey Jr. I mean, they are -- it is speculation overdrive tonight on the other -- WISENBERG: Collusion. INGRAHAM: Well, yes. The collusion is all in the redaction. WISNEBERG: Oh, it's delusion. It's delusion. INGRAHAM: Delusion, collusion, all in the redaction. But Jason, again, we go to again, what Victor Davis Hanson said. We have proven instances of blatant lying to cover up how this whole thing started in the first place. Lying to federal judges -- and I say it's lying. When you don't reveal who actually started this whole ball rolling on the dossier, that is a lie. I still think that FISA judges should be a lot more angry about how this all went on from the beginning. From that spawn this entire investigation. From that filing and that surveillance spawn this entire thing. Period. CHAFFETZ: It was an absolute fabrication. They took -- they planted stories. Remember, a big start of this when we finally -- INGRAHAM: It's like a circular deal. Like, it's in the press and you cite that and then put it in the FISA. CHAFFETZ: -- plant of the story, take the story, present it to the court. I do think the House judiciary and the Senate judiciary of Lindsey Graham is going to do his job to its fullest. Bring up the FISA court judges. Have them explain how this process works. I was on the House judiciary and when we were going through hearings, they wouldn't let us even go to attend one of those meetings and they wouldn't let us even talk to those judges. But there was clearly lying, misinformation. I know the inspector general is still doing an investigation of the FISA because it's probably not until mid next year is best I can tell. It's going to take way too long. But the bottom line here with Mr. Flynn, he didn't have the financial means to fight this. INGRAHAM: Yes, I would say that. I saw you referenced that, and Jason, picking up on it. He doesn't have a lot of money. I mean, when a prosecutor says, you ever want to see your wife again? You know, your son, your little grandchild? He's never going to see your grandchild. You are going to go to jail -- he's going to go to jail for the next 30 years -- don't worry. It is scary for most people. I mean, I -- WISENBERG: But he never -- he had competent counsel, he never would have gone to jail. If he had fought this and lost he never would have gone to jail for a significant period of time for offenses like this. I believe from what I've -- INGRAHAM: But two false statements? WISENBERG: Right. INGRAHAM: A 1001 statements and an article he wrote for "The Hill" about Turkey? CHAFFETZ: It's because he didn't have any -- he didn't have any -- WISENBERG: This guideline range of zero to six months was -- he would have had that no matter what because that would have been his guideline range. So what's going on here is there was something else. There was a threat that was made against somebody but -- INGRAHAM: It's his son. It's about his son. WISNBERG: But here is something else though, you can believe two things at the same time. You can believe there was the seat of the FISA court and that that should be investigated and that people should be prosecuted if they had found to have lied about that. And you can also believe that Mueller should be allowed, even if you don't think he should have been appointed, that Mueller should be allowed to continue his investigation and not be attacked every day by the president. You can actually believe those two things. INGRAHAM: No, I don't think it's helpful to attack Mueller every day. And I don't. I tend to look at what they produce. After 18 months -- and you've got this guy in a vice grip for 18 months. I mean, unless those redactions are really like knock your socks off, maybe they will be. CHAFFETZ: I don't think they are. INGRAHAM: I don't either. I think this is a big zero. I think this Mueller thing and what they did to Flynn is disgusting. And I want to talk to you about this VDH, what they did on the Turkey issue, which is getting almost no play tonight on the other networks. They actually said as you said, the foreign -- the FARA Act, the Foreign Agents Registration -- what is it? I always (inaudible). The defendant made a second series of false statement to the DOJ concerning his contacts with the Republic of Turkey specifically on March 7th, 2017 after he was no longer in the administration. The defendant made materially false statements in multiple documents that he filed pursuant to the Foreign Agents Registration Act pertaining to a project he and his company had performed for a principal benefit of the Republic of Turkey. And apparently the false statement was, well, it was more directed by the government of Turkey then you let on. And he wrote a piece in "The Hill" about that minister that the president of Turkey wanted back in Turkey. That came out March! I just find this to be -- like, this is it? You got the FARA and -- I'm sorry, I just think this is ridiculous! I'm so sorry. HANSON: I don't believe you should attack the special counsel but what Mr. Mueller is doing, he is criminalizing the status quo behavior in Washington. That is what Washington people do. And what we have to ask yourself, does it have any effect? And when Trump came into office, they reversed the so-called special relationship that Obama had developed with Turkey that gave us in part the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and et cetera. So, Trump was harder on the Russians. He is harder on Turks. If you had said, Laura, 18 months ago, $30 million ago, when we were told that there was a new dream team, these were the all-stars, these were Mueller's army. All of these gushing about these wonderful Ivy League lawyers, et cetera. If you have told them that we were going to start with this bang and we were going to end up with a whimper, they were going after Jerome Corsi of Infowars and Roger Stone, you know, perennial provocateur, I think "The New York Times" would have wept and been humiliated. That is where we are now. Eighteen months later we are going after minor characters that have always been on fringe activities and they are supposedly going to drop the bomb shell -- every day we hear a bombshell, bombshell, bombshell -- INGRAHAM: Tonight, it was -- HANSON: -- and that this investigation -- INGRAHAM: Victor, tonight it was the president was shaken, rattled by the Flynn memo. Every time something drops. HANSON: Yes. It's always going to be a watershed (ph). It's going to be a bombshell. INGRAHAM: They have a camera in the White House and the president is rattled. I'm sure he doesn't like the investigation, I mean, who would? HANSON: I don't think Mr. Mueller necessarily is culpable himself, but whether he did know so or not, what we have seen now is we've seen the impeachment reach (ph) early in the administration. We saw the emoluments clause. We saw the 25th amendment. We saw the Logan Act and now the Mueller investigation psychologically feels that same need because we don't have any information that the Trump campaign or transition did anything -- INGRAHAM: Collusion! Where is the collision? I got Sol. Sol is I think judicious, you're judicious and you're prudent in your analysis. We do not know what is in these redactions. We don't know -- Michael Cohen has tape recordings that are -- we don't know. This is like a slow roll. The question is when is this ultimately do you think going to wrap up? Do you have any idea? WISENBERG: I think we are near the end but keep in mind, how you typically determine what a prosecutor's office has is you look at every plea deal, you look at the language of the deal and you look at the statement of the offense. That is where they say, this is what the guy did. And in every single case, you have nothing to indicate that there is a major collusion/conspiracy case involving Trump or his lieutenants conspiring illegally with the Russians, or conspiring with anybody to hack computers. Now, I'm just saying, all I can do is read the tea leaves based upon what prosecutors and defense attorneys always look at. If you look at the documents, there is not going to be anything major there. That's just the way it is. INGRAHAM: So, it's not what everyone thought. Trump is working with, oh, the left -- Trump's working with Putin, working with -- and they are all going to steal the election from Hillary. That is what the average person was led to believe at the beginning of all of this and we will see where we end up. Fantastic analysis by all of you. Thank you so much. There are a lot of stories we are going to cover tonight and one, the war against history? Yes, next. INGRAHAM: Enemies of American history, that is the focus of tonight's "Angle." Now back in August, protesters at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill took it upon themselves to rip down a confederate statue. Well, it was the "Silent Sam" statue and honored UNC students who had fought for the confederacy in the Civil War. Over the last few years, the statue has been labeled "a celebration of white supremacy" by some, and a piece of history by others. Well, yesterday, the university board announced a plan to house the statue and a new $5 million history and education center on the edge of campus where it will be properly contextualized. But even as she announced the plan, Chancellor Carol Folt was clearly not entirely on board. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CAROL FOLT, : CHANCELLOR, UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA: I have a preference to move it up campus but like everyone here, I sore to obey the law and sometimes you don't agree with laws. But I don't have the privilege of choosing which laws I agree with and which ones I do not. (END VIDEO CIP) INGRAHAM: How brave. Well, a 2015 North Carolina law forbids agencies from permanently removing and relocating state owned memorials or statues. And North Carolina likely passed the law to protect against what it saw happening across the country. What's been happening? Well, nationally since 2015, more than 100 confederate monuments and statues have been removed. Students, protesters, and faculty members at UNC want the same fate to befall "Silent Sam." The North Carolina law be damned. Forget about it. They took to the campus Monday night to protest the plan to house the statue in a new building. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: No cops! No KKK, no fascist USA! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: Hey hey, ho ho. Silent Sam has to go. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: UNC is not concerned about preserving history. It is concerned about not upsetting its racist donors and the board of trustees and Carol Folt. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm disappointed to be associated with an institution that continuously seeks to protect and glorify the white supremacists who love to hate us. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: To enable white supremacy is to perpetuate white supremacy and that is exactly what the board of trustees, Carol Folt are doing right now. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It's funny how they are reading it off their phones. Well, who needs paper? But the history was so and that cut and dried. There is a movement particularly among the young to hate the past and eradicate anything they find objectionable or troubling. And look, every country, all history has its bad side and good sides. Good stuff, bad stuff. But this recall is a kind of destructive mind-set of let's say ISIS. Think about ISIS, what they did. They pillaged and they wiped away irreplaceable, historical, and religious monuments. From Palmyra, remember in Syria, simply because they could. It's offensive to them. Now, no matter what one thinks of the way this was all treated after the civil war, where they built these monuments or not. This happened, OK. The confederacy happened, and we owe it to the future to leave history as it existed undisturbed. Continue to debate it, have conversations about it, but why not allow future generations the opportunity to mark this history, process it, and come to their own conclusions. Put up another statue commemorating the slaves who were abused and killed adjacent to "Silent Sam." But to destroy instead of engage, to defy the law instead of respect it, is no way to honor the past or the future or to highlight all the gains America has made. Now, by committing acts of violence to get your own way, and defying laws to remove figures that you find offensive, you start to look a little bit like the thing you are protesting. Should you succeed, by the way, in the future, some other mob might well tear down your statue because they themselves find what you did offensive. So where does it all end? And you would have, you know, taught them that it's fine to destroy all trace of whatever we find objectionable in the past? Let's hope the board of UNC, North Carolina's Historical Commission has less destructive tendencies. We can hope. And that is "The Angle." Joining me now, two students from the university of North Carolina Chapel Hill. Magdalena Horsempa (ph), who is a student supporter of the "Silent Sam" statue on campus, and Alana Edwards, she is the president of the UNC Young Democrats, a group adamantly opposed to the statue's presence anywhere on campus. Now Alana, it seems that the first step for critics of these statues was to move them out of the public square and into historical buildings. OK, so that happened -- or that was happening. But now that's offensive. So where does this ever end? What do you propose it be done with the statue? You can't have it out on the public where it always has been, can't move into the building, so what now? ALANA EDWARDS, PRESIDENT, UNC YOUNG DEMOCRATS: I think with the "Silent Sam" down, it is time to start contextualizing the past of the monument. And one thing I would like to bring up is when you look at when this monument was elected, it was 1913, the height of the Jim Crow era, and the dedication speeches espoused white supremacy. And personally, I am a proud southerner, and I had ancestors fighting on both sides of the war, and I value the lessons to be learned from the Civil War. But I see this monument as destructive, and a symbol of a different era entirely, and not of the actions of UNC student who served at that time, but when it was dedicated in 1913, the era of white supremacy. And so while there is no clear-cut solution, I do think, and state law is very restrictive, I think that it deserves a place off campus where it can be placed within the proper context of which it was erected. INGRAHAM: So let's go to you, Magdalene, on this. What should happen to this statue? There is a law, a state law, passed unanimously, I believe, in the state. One chamber of the state house, but then ultimately it was signed into law, that exists. You can't just remove things never to be seen again. These are state owned memorials, and it says very clearly, a monument, memorial, or work of art owned by the state may not be removed, relocated, or altered in any way without the approval of the North Carolina Historical Commission. They wanted to basically stop these things from disappearing in the middle of the night as we saw in places like in New Orleans, where statues have been removed never to be seen again. So Magdalene, what happens next? MAGDALENE HORZEMPA, CHAIRWOMAN, UNC COLLEGE REPUBLICANS: So next, of course, I feel that if these students are going to protest on the north side of campus, they are absolutely going to continue protesting to stop you being in the new museum and education center on the south side of campus. I feel that only placing the monument on the south side of campus in a building allows UNC administration to ignore the problem that is going on on campus, and that is liberal students feeling that they can run a university and encompass -- try and encompass and overthrow the opinions of the majority and only allow the public to see the vocal minority that is taking place. In my capacity as the chairwoman of the UNC college Republicans, I have said before I do not condone any kind of mob rule or anarchist activity on campus. And for these students to feel that it was OK to take this statue down in the very beginning in August, that's absolutely not OK. Chancellor Folt let them get away with it, UNC police, Chapel Hill police, and the lack of consequences from events in Durham also made students think that they could get away with something like this. And that's absolutely not -- INGRAHAM: Alana, when you look at these images, this is like mob rule. You rip something down, you say I'm offended by it, and we are all supposed to throw you a parade. Welcome to the world. Again, I'm kind of tired of the snowflake line and all the college students are snowflakes, but the real world is filled with complicated, very difficult dilemmas for everyone. EDWARDS: I agree. And I think -- INGRAHAM: You might not like the lyrics to a song you hear on the radio. Maybe you like the tune but you don't like the lyrics. Well, I guess you could say, well, it offends me, that should be banned, because it objectifies women as just a piece of, you know, sexual gratification or something. Pretty much everybody is offended by something. You know what I'm offended by? I'm offended by students who refuse to see that the progress has been made in the United States of America and seem to want to want to find some type of, I don't know if it's belonging or relevance in a world where moral relativism actually kind of reigns supreme. But it looks like students, it is kind of a social gathering almost. What can we tear down today? Or how can we get on YouTube? Or how can we -- I'm glad you are on with us tonight to try to explain this. I think most people in the real world are like, kids, don't try this at home, because if you try this at home you will be put in jail. You try this in the real world you will be put in jail. Go ahead. EDWARDS: I think we see in the civil rights era I think people would have said similar things about people protesting then. I think civil disobedience and peaceful protests are -- INGRAHAM: Does not look peaceful to you what happened last night? Really? That's peaceful? EDWARDS: I would say last night I believe there were two arrests. INGRAHAM: That's not Rosa Parks, sweetie. That's not Rosa Parks. HORZEMPA: That's not peaceful. EDWARDS: I would like to emphasize that there were two arrests, and they were nonviolent isolated cases. And I think with any group that large there will be people who act in ways that may cause them to get arrested. But what we saw last night, there was no violence. I think that it was just students voicing their opinion. And one point I would like to bring up that our democratically elected student body president voted no to this proposal. So I don't really agree with the sentiment that this isn't what student want, because I think clearly we see by the numbers gathering, by the student body president, by the 5,000 letters and emails written to the Chancellor Folt when she solicited input from the campus community, I think they are all pretty clear that students don't want Silent Sam on campus. INGRAHAM: Magdalene, final thoughts, real quick. HORZEMPA: Absolutely not. This action does not encompass what the campus needs to be. UNC was founded on a Lux Libertas, which is light and liberty, and neither one of these situations encompassed that, neither one of them. INGRAHAM: More debate. HORZEMPA: This statue belongs where it was. INGRAHAM: I think more debate, not less debate. Don't remove historical markers, talk more about them. Guys, thank you for being on. Something interesting happening in the 2020 race. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who do you want to see run? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We'll have 30 or 40 probably great candidates running for candidate. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That a lot. Forty, really? Forty candidates? HORZEMPA: There are a lot of U.S. senators who talking about it, a lot of governors, a lot of people outside of politics. I think we're going to have a big field. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And you thought the GOP field was big in 2016 -- 30 or 40 people. Wow. Just look at these recent developments as Democrats continue to embrace Beto-mania, which goes unabated, old Joe Biden is reemerging to say, wait an Amtrak minute here, OK. I think I am the most qualified person in the country to be president, he said. There is a new twist on all of this tonight. Just hours ago, it was reported that Beto O'Rourke secretly met with President Obama, who is said to be very excited about his potential candidacy. So how bruising will a Biden-Beto Democrat primary be? Throw in another 28 people or so. Here to debate, Corey Lewandowski, former Trump 2016 campaign manager, and Juan Williams, FOX News political analyst, co-host of "The Five." Juan, Obama's old staff seems to be prepping an instant kind of plug and play for Beto presidential campaign. Your thoughts? JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST, "THE FIVE": Not quite. Rahm Emanuel, the mayor of Chicago, has said you've got to win something. And he thinks the idea that Beto O'Rourke did not win versus Ted Cruz in Texas means that he shouldn't be a contender here. He has got to prove that he can be a winner. But I see lots of Obama people, to your point, Laura, saying -- Obama people -- saying, hey, you know what, we haven't seen excitement, this kind of charisma, this kind of young people attracted to a candidate since 2008, and that's Barack Obama. And by the way, in Iowa, they have just done a survey and it came back that most of Iowa Democrats say they would like to see a young, energetic new face on the scene. And I don't think there is anyone who fits that bill better than O'Rourke. INGRAHAM: But of course, his old vice president, Corey. Joe Biden clearly isn't feeling the love here. He is pretty experienced. He was vice president for eight years, and Robert Francis does the shirt sleeve thing, kind of like Obama used to do. He's used to jump on stage in his shirt sleeves, he is young and energetic, and loved by a lot of Democrats. I've never seen anything like it, someone who has never won a big position, looks like the mojo and the energy is moving to him. Never seen anything like it. COREY LEWANDOWSKI, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: This reminds of Roger De Niro in "Raging Bull" when he says I could have been a contender. I could have been somebody. But you've got to win first is what it comes down to. Next thing you know you're going to tell me the ticket is two failed candidates, Beto O'Rourke and Andrew Gillum from Florida are going to combine to be two losers who are going to run when we have a, quote, experienced candidate like Joe Biden. That means old to the average person. "Experienced" means old. The frontrunners for the Democrat nomination are both in their mid-70s, and then we've got Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris and all these others who can't get out of their own way, who want to run to the far left. And the Democrats are going to nominate a very liberal progressive who Donald Trump is going to walk all over. INGRAHAM: Juan, there was another guy who ran and won and hadn't run and won anything, Donald Trump. He never won a political office, and he won the presidency. WILLIAMS: Yes, and also, hey, Corey, Donald Trump is up in his 70s. So Joe Biden is highly experienced. I think when Joe Biden says he is the most qualified, it reminds me of George H. W. Bush, very qualified, lots of experience. You can't argue with Joe Biden's many years in the Senate and also as the head of the Judiciary Committee. INGRAHAM: They don't want Biden. They don't want Biden. They want Beto. WILLIAMS: In the polls he's the number one candidate, Laura. INGRAHAM: I know. We have it. The Harvard Harris poll, we put it up, it's Biden, 25, Bernie Sanders, 15, Hillary Clinton, 13, Beto O'Rourke, nine percent. I don't think any of that means anything right now, because I'm telling you, although Obama is meeting with -- he has met with Bernie Sanders, he has met with Elizabeth Warren, and Mitch Landrieu, speaking of people who like to pull down statues in the middle of the night, or at least countenance that, Mitch Landrieu. So Obama folks and the former president himself, they are kind of running out of patience with Trump, Corey. LEWANDOWSKI: Of course they are, because -- INGRAHAM: Obama is like, guys, let me show you how it's done. Let me show you how it's done. And Beto is kind of the, as he is described by, what the "New York Times" or the "Washington Post," as the white Obama. They are describing him that way. LEWANDOWSKI: Look, Obama has seen all of his signature policies reversed under this president. He has seen the economy explode. He has seen the magician that he claimed didn't exist, which is Donald Trump, brings jobs back to this country. He has seen this president renegotiate bad trade deals, and he wants anybody who can challenge him. The problem is, look, in the 2016 election, we had the adult debates and we had the children's debates, which was two separate stages. Now with 30 candidates we are going to have the geriatrics debate, the losers debate, and everybody else on the stage. It's amazing. We're going to have 30 people, you've got to be kidding me! (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: All right, guys, I want to get your thoughts on something else, though, because tonight we are mourning the passing of a presidential campaign that never got off the ground. Michael Avenatti announcing on Twitter that he will not run in 2020. Could we possibly get the porn star attorney to change his mind and give Joe and Beto and Kamala a run for their money? Juan? WILLIAMS: I think only if we want to tickle you and Corey, because you guys would have a field day talking about him, and Stormy Daniels and all of that. I think Stormy remains on the scene as kryptonite to Trump, but I think you guys as political people would think, how ridiculous. Now, I must say, he does reveal an instinct on the Democratic part, which is they want someone who would go toe- to-toe slugging it out with the heavyweight champ, Trump, right. And so Avenatti says that is what he will do. These other people, he says, they are wimps. They are going to get run over by the big heavyweight, Donald Trump. But I think you are going to find that the Democrats have a big appetite for somebody who is a fighter. But to me, Avenatti has just too many deficits, too many flaws going in. He is too much of a target for you guys. INGRAHAM: He talked about, you need a fighter in 2020. We get that, but you also need someone who comes with some level, I think, of gravitas and experience. Who knows where we will be in two years in the economy, certainly hope the economy is doing well in two years. But you're going to go up against someone who has been through the meatgrinder of politics over the last previous six years. And that's not easy. I don't care if you are young and energetic and good looking, you are from Texas and you have a cool name, that doesn't mean you have the political talent of Barack Obama. He had an enormous raw political talent, Obama did. And we will see about whether Beto does. Corey, real quick, close it out. LEWANDOWSKI: And I agree with Juan. I don't think anybody whose nickname is creepy porn lawyer had a real chance of being the Democratic nominee. I could be wrong, but I don't think it's a great nickname to get into politics with, especially a guy who has been thrown out for not paying his bills, he has all these liens against him. I think creepy porn lawyer had no real chance anyways. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, thanks so much. And we have long warned about the dangers facing the caravan at our southern border, both during the track and when they arrived. Two shocking developments have proved us right. The report is disturbing and the video next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We've got a challenging and still potentially volatile situation in Tijuana. We've got over 7,000 migrants there. They were well organized. They were brought to the border by a group that told him they would able to cross easily into the U.S. to present asylum claims. We do see individuals trying to cross illegally. We saw the scenes of families literally dropping children over the fence. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: This is the video that the Customs and Border Protection commissioner was just mentioning. So do the people throwing their children over an 18-foot border fence seem like, I don't know, they're concerned parents, model parents? Some of those kids, not surprisingly, were seriously injured. And all the while, migrants at the border are demanding faster processing into the United States so many can disappear into the mainland. Here to debate this, Tom Homan, former acting ICE director, and FOX News contributor and immigration attorney Gunther Sanabria. Tom, critics of the caravan are told that we are inhumane for warning of these dire conditions, but to see the numbers of people that are now reported missing from the original caravan, either dead or missing, their family doesn't know where they are and they're actually not at the border crossing, not to be accounted for. TOM HOMAN, FORMER ACTING DIRECTOR, ICE: For the last year and a half I have said over and over again, illegal immigration is not a victimless crime. They hire a criminal organization to smuggle them to the United States and across the border. These are bad people. And President Trump tried to do the right thing and put them into a port of entry by saying you can't if you enter illegally, to put them in a port of entry where they're guarded by federal agents 24/7. But because of what the ACLU did when they sued Trump for that, and this judge in the Ninth Circuit, what he basically did was put them back in the hands of the smugglers, you saw just saw the video of a smuggler dropping a child over the wall, they put them back in the hands of criminal organizations, more women will be raped, more people will die because rather than being a port of entry now, they are going to cross illegally with the help of criminal organization. INGRAHAM: Gunther, the criminal organizations I think in part and other NGOs promised these migrants they were going to get into the country, and I think they didn't believe Trump when Trump said, you're not getting in, not getting in the way you want to. We are going to process you in the way we can. So they were sold a bill of goods. GUNTHER SANABRIA, D.C. IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: I see a problem here. Telling everybody to just go through a port of entry and not having enough people at the port of entry is creating a problem for a problem. I'm not saying that everybody should just jump the wall, OK. But if you are going to tell people, this is the entrance, have people prepared to receive all those people trying to look for asylum. INGRAHAM: And 91 percent of them have fraudulent claims for asylum, 91 percent is the government's estimate given the past experience and the surge of asylum claims of the last six years. They have skyrocketed, Gunther. SANABRIA: I don't think fraudulent is the word. I think that people come to apply for asylum and they don't qualify. The numbers are there. There is no evidence of fraud. There is evidence they don't qualify. INGRAHAM: Pueblo Sin Fronteras, if I were at the Justice Department, I would open up an investigation just into that one group, Pueblo Sin Fronteras, which are sending representatives down there, and in a very cute and kind of veiled way, this is how you apply for asylum. Well, I want to come work in the United States. OK, but you have to have credible -- it's a scam. SANABRIA: It's not that simple. It's not that simple. That interview is actually pretty tough. It takes a couple hours. I have seen the pages. I have seen people come with their interviews to my office. And I see 20 pages of questioning. It is not simply saying I want to apply for asylum, I qualify, and then you are in. It doesn't work that way. INGRAHAM: They're economic migrants, all right? These people want to come to work, or join family members. They want to be in the United States for a variety of reasons. SANABRIA: Of course. INGRAHAM: But a very small percentage -- HOMAN: But the fact is that 89 percent of them will pass the first credible fear interview by an asylum officer, but as Laura just said, 90 percent will lose in front of an immigration judge. So the delta is too big. So it is easy to pass. You've just got to know what to say for that first interview. We had criminal investigations into this. American attorneys have been down there teaching and telling them what to say. That is just fact. SANABRIA: No, I'm sorry, but the attorneys are not teaching them what to say. These are people running from fear, they are running from a country where they are being killed. Their wives and children are being persecuted and killed. To you they are telling the same story. To the attorneys -- INGRAHAM: I saw a lot of them interviewed. They didn't say anything about any of them being killed. They're like, I want to come and work in the United States. I've seen all those -- there is some really interesting freelance reporters down there, YouTube kids interviewing -- and I think they are kind of on your side on this, but people are just saying in Spanish because obviously they don't speak English. And they are like, I've got friends there, I'm not a threat. That is what they say. I believe most of them are not a criminal threat, but they have made the criminal organizations richer. And they have hurt the people of Tijuana in this process who are, by the way I want play this, this one Tijuana official, Genaro Lopez Moreno. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When they first got here there were like 360 migrants coming here. Things got out of hand because it kept growing and growing. This is a federal issue. This is not a municipal issue. But we are carrying the load, the financial load of keeping these people with medicine, food, shelter, blankets, and whatever. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Tom, real quick. We've got 10 seconds here. HOMAN: Mexico should have done more on the southern border. You can't tell me they couldn't have stopped this caravan if they really wanted to and really tried. INGRAHAM: Gunther, come back. We'll have a longer segment on this. This isn't going away any time soon. Thank you very much. And we will be right back. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Something lost in a lot of the breaking news coverage of today and everything that has happened in the last week is President Trump's visit with George W. Bush and his wife, Laura, to console them about H.W.'s death even amongst all these heated political debates. That was a lovely moment. And Mrs. Bush went over to the White House, saw the Christmas decorations back in the White House where she spent eight years. Load-Date: December 5, 2018 End of Document Remembering President George H.W. Bush; Media Attacks Trump After Bush 41's Death; The Media Couldn't Set Aside Their Hate For President Trump That Even In The Wake Of President George H.W. Bush's Death, Their Focus Is Still To Destroy The Sitting President; A New Jersey Substitute Teacher Was Criticized On Social Media For Trying To Ruin Christmas By Telling Kids That Santa And The Reindeer Are Not Real; The New Mexican Government Has Basically Shut Down Food Deliveries, Water, Even Bathroom To The Sports Complex Where Migrant Caravans Are Temporary Staying Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST December 3, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7691 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Mollie Hemingway, Doug Schoen, Steve Harrigan, Monica Crowley, Geraldo Rivera, Thomas Homan, Rachel Campos-Duffy Guests: Cathy Areu Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Lying pomposity, smugness and groupthink, got it. I got it down. Pat it. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: You got it, man. HANNITY: All right. Thank you. And welcome to this busy breaking news HANNITY tonight. We start with the FOX News alert, moments ago, President Trump visiting the capitol rotunda to honor former President Herbert Walker Bush who will lie in state there until Wednesday. Tonight, we will remember the life and the legacy of the 41st president of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush. President Bush was a man devoted to his family, his country, to making this world a better freer safer place -- a lifetime of incredible service. And we'll also have tonight my full interview with 41 from 2004. We'll also show you the very worst media coverage surrounding the president's passing, pretty despicable. Plus, we have new developments in the Muller witch-hunt front. Some really bad news for Bill and Hillary Clinton. Also breaking news on anti-tax riots in Paris. And you won't believe you will not believe what one teacher in New Jersey told kids about Santa. Five and six year old kids. If you have young kids, you may want to tune them out at that point. It will shock your conscience. We start tonight with our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: On his 18th birthday, George Herbert Walker Bush put off his impending college education. He enlisted in the United States Navy, becoming the youngest aviator in the Navy. It was six months after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. In the following years, he flew dozens of combat missions all across the Pacific Ocean. After one such mission in 1944, his plane's engine was set ablaze by enemy fire, forcing him to bail out over the ocean. After being rescued several hours later by a U.S. submarine, Bush reportedly wondered quote why had I been spared and what did God have in store for me. As it turns out, God had a lot in store for George Herbert Walker Bush. He became successful in the oil business in Odessa, Texas, a U.S. congressman, the 10th ambassador to the United Nations, the chairman of the Republican National Committee and also ambassador to China, the director of the CIA. He served eight years as Ronald Reagan's loyal vice president, which was one of the most successful presidencies in history. And, of course, he was elected the 41st president of the United States. George H.W. Bush had one of the most notable resumes in the history of the U.S., but his personal life was even more impressive. Along with his beloved wife Barbara of 70-plus years, he was a parent to six children including former president, a former governor. He was a grandfather to seventeen and a great-grandfather to eight. Through it all, he never forgot the brave men who and women in this country that protect us every single day, make everything possible, including in 2004 when he sat down for an interview with yours truly. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: You know it touches me, Sean, I admit living in some what of a cocoon as a former president. But I go out of my way to say hi to these policemen and firemen there. And I'll tell you, the ones that I talk to -- we're for your son, our great word for you, one of them lift up the back of his lapel like that it big George W. button. HANNITY: This is the same guys, they watch FOX News every night. (CROSSTALK) BUSH: Well, I'm sure they do. I'm sure. But, you know, this is -- these people are not elitist, country club people. They're saving our lives with their service. HANNITY: Heroes. BUSH: And when they say, we're for the president, I'll tell you, I get very emotional at that. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We'll have more of this interview coming up in its entirety in just a few minutes. But obviously, in both his personal, professional life, President Bush was always a good, decent, honorable person, serving his country. During his four years in the Oval Office, eight years as vice president, he had to deal with some of the most challenging issues in modern American history. He saw the collapse of the Soviet Union after a successful strategy with President Reagan called peace through strength. He ushered in the reunification of Germany. He constructed literally and conducted the First Gulf War in response to Saddam Hussein's hostile actions an attempted takeover of Kuwait. And along with his predecessor, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush transformed the country, at that time creating 21 million new jobs. It was at the time a longest period of peacetime economic growth in American history. They took the country -- get this -- double-digit unemployment, double-digit interest rates, inflation to amazing lows. The very same thing, by the way, that President Trump is now doing after the disaster of the Obama economy. They inherited the economy of Jimmy Carter. But, of course, the Bush presidency did not go without some controversy. They all have controversy. Some criticized him for not taking out Saddam Hussein after he decimated the Iraqi army in Kuwait in a very short period of time. He's also attacked on the issue of his no new tax pledge. You might remember, it was the infamous "read my lips, no new tax" moment. And like since Ronald Reagan, Bush encountered a media that was actively rooting against him, and it's only gotten worse since then. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you explain how you were supposed to be the -- you are you an anti-terrorist expert. Iran was officially a terrorist state. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president also got a chance to see a supermarket checkout scanner in action. It doesn't as though he had really seen one of those before, and the president said that he was amazed. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The Bush campaign has really been a model and how you elect somebody who even his friends think is a weak national candidate. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We find it's very steady work keeping up with Bush's lies. They do keep coming very thick and fast. Lying is something that comes to him alarmingly easily. It's something that he resorts to with I think it's a slightly worrying sort of skill. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: What you saw there was only the tip of the iceberg. During his reelection bid, "The New York Times" reported that fake story about President Bush's so-called amazement at supermarket scanning technology. They tried to paint him as out of touch, although widely refuted, "The New York Times" included this fake story in its obituary of the president. Meanwhile, the so-called journalists at the "A.P.", they couldn't hide their contempt for now the former president even passing away, tweeting, quote: George H.W. Bush, a patrician New Englander, his presidency soared with the coalition victory over Iraq and Kuwait but then plummeted in the throes of a weak economy that led voters to turn him out of office after a single term, has died. He was 94. That tweet has since been deleted. But, of course, this is all part of a pattern, isn't it? The mainstream media viciously attacking any prominent Republicans, all while providing cover to all of their friends in the Democratic Party. Reagan was portrayed as a heartless monster the eight years he was president. George Bush literally bashed for his speaking style among other things. John McCain excoriated throughout the 2008 campaign as racist and worse. Mitt Romney called the sexist and misogynist because he wanted to hire women. Apparently, these attacks are just obviously completely disingenuous when you have that people die and all of a sudden, they now like them. Like we saw with Senator McCain. Most of the mainstream media, oh, they'll do a 180 after they excoriated and when I was running for president and treated him horribly, seemingly forgetting about their nasty coverage -- a pattern to destroy people's names of character when they're alive and then create a veneer of bipartisanship and then will say nice things about somebody when the person dies. It's so transparently phony. We've got the video evidence take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEPHANIE RUHLE, MSNBC HOST: Hi there. I'm Stephanie Ruhle. Clearly, a little broken up. ANDREA MITCHELL, NBC NEWS: Breaking that pledge showed the character and resolve of the man to do which he was persuaded was the right thing to do economically, even though he at the time that it might guarantee that he'd be a one-term president. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are mourning something greater than one man in some ways. We are mourning an ideal, because President George H.W. Bush was the last of the greatest generation. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Such respect for the position, the institution of the presidency. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But what a -- what a special person, what a patriot, what a person of service to this country and of just incredible decency. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And an example to, oh, let's praise former President Bush who the media was never nice to, maybe you can use that to bludgeon Trump. And when the dust of partisanship settles, history will look back on 41 as an American hero. And when his country called George H.W. Bush, he answered that call. He answered the call in the Pacific at the ripe age of 18, like so many in his generation including my own father. He answered the halls of our nation's bureaucracy as he entered that. He answered the call as the 41st president of this country. He did it as a father, as a husband and now answers once again to his beloved Barbara Bush in heaven after they both had an amazing 73- year marriage. Our thoughts and prayers tonight go out to the entire Bush family. And over the years, I did have the opportunity to sit down with President Bush. We're going to play that interview coming up. Before we get to that interview, I first turn to a lot of breaking news. We start in France tonight where tensions are very high after very violent protests against the French President Emmanuel Macron are taking place. This all started as a demonstration by France's Yellow Vest Movement against the country's crippling gas designed to, quote, fight climate change. Now, this comes as gas prices in Paris are now already over $7 a gallon, really insane, and so far across France. Those protests have left three dead, hundreds wounded, over 400 have been arrested. As it turns out, I guess socialism, high taxes and government enforced climate shaming didn't exactly lead to societal euphoria. Instead of pushing a massive climate change agenda, it only puts a bigger burden on -- who -- the lower the working-class people of France and anywhere else they use this. And while no one supports violence and destruction, should we be surprised? This should serve as an important warning to everyone here in the U.S. We'll continue to monitor the latest. Also, new developments tonight as it relates to the Mueller witch-hunt breaking today, according to a report, from Michael Isikoff, remember him? Robert Mueller is now tying off loose ends and a probe that appears he says to be coming to a close. This comes today as author and 72-year-old Jerome Corsi filed a criminal complaint against the special counsel, alleging that Mueller and his team of Democratic lawyers sought his false testimony and, by the way, laying out how, quote, Dr. Corsi has been criminally threatened and coerced to tell a lie and call it the truth. And Mr. Corsi explained on this show, he rejected a plea deal because he refused to lie because under oath and before God. Pretty courageous decision given that is and literally threatened with what could be a life sentence in jail for not agreeing to testi-lie to the special counsel. This is the opposite of how our justice system supposed to work in America we all were brought up to believe that was supposed to investigate crimes and then find perpetrators, not the other way around. Remember, there's still zero evidence to date of any Trump-Russia collusion, nothing. Remember, General Flynn, George Papadopoulos pled guilty to process crimes as a result of the investigation itself, nothing to deal with the investigation. Manafort, guilty on some counts, pled guilty in crimes, oh on loan applications and tax issues going back to 2007, taking place way before you ever joined the Trump campaign. And instead of investigating the obvious collusion at Obama's DOJ and Comey's FBI, and, of course, them using dirty, phony campaign op research that Hillary paid for from Russia -- well, they continue to push only the phony partisan Russian narrative only to bludgeon, undermine and delegitimize these duly elected president we now have. Also in that vein breaking tonight, Comey has reached a deal with House Republicans to sit for a private deposition after trying to force a public hearing. Now, will he ever be held accountable like Michael Cohen for lying under oath? Remember, he said the report about the Clinton investigation wasn't written before she was interviewed. That was a lie, apparently, we don't have equal application of our laws. One standard for Republicans, another for Democrats like Comey, and certainly, maybe even a third system for the Clintons entirely. And, by the way, thankfully tonight, it might be closing time for the Clintons' shady and once lucrative business of turning political access into hard cold cash. According to long longtime "New York Times" columnist, even Maureen Dowd, well, a recent joint speech by Bill and Hillary Clinton was pretty disappointing at best. She writes, quote: Their pathological need to be relevant in America is belied by a Canadian arena where stretches of empty seats bear witness to the passing of their relevance. Even the few showing up, they were getting a discount, according to a new report. Tickets to see Bill and Hillary, as low as 11 bucks in some of the locations. They asked me, that's still overpriced. OK, a lot more to get to tonight. The latest on the caravan, the media's latest low as it relates to the passing of President 41, George Herbert Walker Bush, and you won't believe -- you will not believe how one teacher decided to ruin Christmas for five and six-year-olds. But tonight, we first remember the legacy of service, President George H.W. Bush. We're going to go back to 2004. I had the opportunity to sit down with the former president ahead of that year's presidential election. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: It's got to be harder to watch your son the president than to be president. BUSH: It is far worse when they go after your son and I would say unfairly a lot of the time than when they used to when I was in the crosshairs and we get condemned and criticized. Even when I thought it was unfair about me, it hurts much more when it's your own son. HANNITY: Yes. And you might -- BUSH: Not even a close call. HANNITY: Not even close, because I think about my son who's a lot younger than yours, but I would think that's got to be a lot harder, and you may have to go through this one more time. You know, I just talked to your -- the other son of yours in Florida. He's got a lot of potential. BUSH: He's good. He's really good. Oh, God, he's good. And they singled him out for two years ago as the number one target for the Democratic Party nationally, not just for governor, for Senate. Terry McAuliffe, for whom I don't well put it this way I'm not very high on him, came and made this the number one -- number one goal for the Democratic Party nationally and Jeb won by 14 points. HANNITY: He did. And the polls were a little closer going into that election. BUSH: That's right. HANNITY: And he won by much wider margin and I guess made it Mr. McAuliffe a little unhappy about that. You know, your son said something the other day that really struck me he really did want to go to Washington and change the tone -- something that he was able to accomplish in Texas. BUSH: Yes. HANNITY: Since he's been there and I'm not talking about the Michael Moore's or the pundits on TV -- yes, we'll get to him in a minute. BUSH: Oh, well, good. Hurry up. HANNITY: But former Vice President Al Gore's screaming George Bush betrayed his country. Ted Kennedy regularly calls the president a liar. He concocted a war for political gain. Have you heard the leaders of the Democratic Party that shrill? BUSH: I've heard him shrill and I've heard some of ours shrill in the past. But I've never felt the climate like it is now, nor the shrillness of the political opposition. HANNITY: It hurts? BUSH: Well, yes, you expect some of it. But when it's your son and they call him a liar, when they when they impugn his motives, it hurts a lot. HANNITY: Yes. BUSH: You think I feel strongly about it, talk to Barbara Bush. Because she just gets to tell me not to watch and all of that. But I can't, I can't not watch. HANNITY: You're engaged. I read recently that she won't read "The New York Times" anymore and -- BUSH: She doesn't (ph). HANNITY: She tells you to stop whining about it when you do read it. BUSH: Yes, well, I still read about it and I'm whining more and much more publicly than I used to, because -- HANNITY: Why? BUSH: Because I think they've gone too far. I think they're advocates for the Democrats. I think they have lost their objectivity that they did have many years ago. I think there's a certain arrogance amongst a lot of their people. I think, you know, you expect this on the op-ed page, you got people in there that's smear George and slam him every day. But that's -- you know, that's different. But when the news columns, when you see subjectivity creeping into the news columns, it concerns me. HANNITY: Yes, I think -- BUSH: And they'll deny it's happening and I say, well, too bad, I think it is. HANNITY: There -- you saw back in the -- at the convention, the protesters. Michael Moore conspiracy theories about the Bush family. You even commented publicly about him. BUSH: Well, he's bad and, you know, I didn't go to see his movie and so he'll say, well, how can you criticize me when you didn't see it? Hey, we've had tons of people go to see it. It's just my problem, I don't want to pay one dime that some of which might eventually end up in his pocket. But he is a below-the-belt guy. He knows that because my family are public persons, we couldn't can't -- don't have any access to making him tell the truth. He made some comment I understand in this documentary that's got him all kinds of liberal fame, that we got a billion, two hundred million dollars out of the Saudis or we were enriched by that. But he has it very cleverly, gets it in a way that there's no libel. I don't like him and I don't know him, and I don't want to meet him and I don't like his movie and I'm not going to see it. How's that for fairness? HANNITY: You like to fill it not my talk show? BUSH: No. HANNITY: That's offering strong opinions. Zell Miller, when he spoke at the Republican Convention, had some incredibly harsh criticism of the Democratic Party and he said, where -- yes, where is the bipartisanship when we need it most he's talked about a manic obsession to bring down your son, our commander in chief. He said they're motivated more by partisan politics by national security. Today's Democratic leaders see America as an occupier, not a liberator. Do you see a shift and a change, I mean, we had in years gone by, FDR and JFK and Truman and the modern Democratic Party? BUSH: Well, I've referred to Zell Miller about the shift and change because he was one and now he's not. And he's watched, he's worked with them, his own party, and he -- you know, as Reagan said the party left him and that's what Reagan said about the Democrats. HANNITY: You were involved in a revolution. When President Reagan and when you were vice president and you proposed your economic plan and you were going to cut taxes, a lot of people predicted a depression would ensue. BUSH: Yes. HANNITY: You have the longest period of peacetime economic growth, 20-plus million new jobs were created. When you decided to build up our military and end what President Reagan called the gap of vulnerability and confront the evil empire, there were those that predicted World War III would ensue. But we know what happened -- the wall came tumbling down. BUSH: Yes, right. HANNITY: So, there was a lot of criticism. Is it similar -- I mean, if you look at -- (CROSSTALK) BUSH: I think there's some similarity from the critics, some of the same critics in the -- HANNITY: Your friend Ted Kennedy. BUSH: Yes, my friend Ted, we have a very pleasant personal relationship but, you know, I -- when he goes after the president in a personal way, I don't like it one darn bit, and he knows that. You know what touches me, Sean, I admit living in some what of a cocoon as a former president, but I go out of my way to say hi to these policemen and the firemen there, and I'll tell you, the ones that I talk to -- we're for your son, one them lifted up the back of his lapel like that, a big George W. button. HANNITY: This is the same guys, they watch FOX News every night. (CROSSTALK) BUSH: Well, I'm sure they do. I'm sure. But, you know, this is -- these people are not elitist, country club people. They're saving our lives with their service. HANNITY: Heroes. BUSH: And when they say, we're for the president, I'll tell you, I get very emotional at that. HANNITY: You say about the Bush family, it's not about legacy, it's about duty and it's about honor, and it's about service. That's -- is that something you and the president talked about? BUSH: No, but I don't need to talk to him about it because I know what motivates him. I know it's motivate him over is over his lifetime, and I'm just saying at this stage of my life, what that matters -- service, duty, honor, country, service to others, helping others, points of light, and family. In my case, with our two public figures, sons, it's a pretty easy fit. HANNITY: And you're proud of them and you said you think you won substantially. BUSH: I do. I honestly believe it. But, you know, I could be wrong. Heck, I thought I'd win and I was (INAUDIBLE) only Mary Matalin (INAUDIBLE) a country that did. But I got you know -- look at it this way: the Lord works in mysterious ways, Sean. And if I have won, I doubt that the president would have been president today, maybe in the future. And Jeb might not be serving admirably in his second term as governor. (END VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: Service, duty, honor, God, family -- an amazing man, amazing family. All right. Directly ahead, we have a busy news night. How is the media using the death of a former president, George H.W. Bush, to attack Trump? It's pretty despicable. We've got full analysis and at some point, the kids can't watch this show tonight. I'll explain. HANNITY: All right. The media has been extensively covering the death of former President George H.W. Bush. Some are actually using Bush 41's passing to attack President Trump. Sad, but not surprising. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Volunteering to serve in World War II, as (INAUDIBLE) ambassador, CIA director, congressman, vice president, president -- a whole life of public service. Donald Trump has been a life of service to himself. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They both believe that the presidency is bigger than themselves, which is not something that this president always adheres to. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think this is also a 24 hours of nostalgia about what leadership used to look like in this country. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's a great clip from 1980 when George H.W. Bush is challenged on his -- how tough he is. And he talks about toughness is about having values and standing for them being principled. Toughness is not attacking. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He understood that the press wasn't the enemy of the people, and even said, basically at the end of the day, we're all in this together and I will be here for you, just like I know you would be there for me. What a remarkable difference between 1988 and 2018. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And today on "The View", Joy Behar used H.W. Bush's death to launch a tasteless attack on President Trump, provoking Meghan McCain, or at least recently as we know, lost her own dad to issue a fiery response. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": As a candidate he said, those who think we are powerless to think we could do anything about the greenhouse attack effect are forgetting about the White House effect. And then he signed into law the Clean Air Act Amendment of 1990, one of the most sweeping environmental statutes ever. This president that we have now is trying to unravel everything that he did and Obama did. And if we ever become a one issue voter, it will be about pollution and the greenhouse effect and the fact that -- MEGHAN MCCAIN, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": Could we focus on the president please? I don't want to talk about Trump. (CROSSTALK) MCCAIN: We are honoring a great president. BEHAR: Excuse me a second, please? I wanted to talk about -- (CROSSTALK) MCCAIN: We're honoring, but I'm not interested in your issue. BEHAR: I don't care what you are interested in, I'm talking. MCCAIN: I don't care what you are interested in, either. WHOOPIE GOLDBERG, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": We'll be right back. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Anyone noticed like the liberal snowflakes behind -- forget it. Joining us now, FOX News contributor, senior editor at "The Federalist", Mollie Hemingway, is with us. FOX News contributor, former Clinton pollster, Doug Schoen. "Washington Times" columnist Monica Crowley is with us. You know, Monica, you think back -- for example, I supported John McCain when he ran for president when it mattered. And -- because I thought he would be the better president and I was proven correct in the end. All those people that viciously attacked him, oh, it was like, they were his best friend. And we see it now with Herbert Walker Bush, we saw it with Ronald Reagan. It's like a phenomenon. They'll try and bludgeon you when you're alive, and then, now that you no longer a political threat, oh, you are the greatest person that ever lived. MONICA CROWLEY, COLUMNIST, "WASHINGTON TIMES": Yes. You know, Sean, death enhances the memory of almost everybody, but it's particularly striking when a Republican politician or president passes away, and then the mainstream media which relentlessly pounded that Republican politician during his or her time in office, then suddenly, they are a saint. I think in the case of President Trump, the mainstream media will use any cudgel to try to pound the president into the ground. You mentioned Senator McCain when he passed, they certainly did it then. They're doing it now. And, you know, I wrote a column for "Spectator USA" today, talking about how President Nixon essentially launched President Bush into national -- as a national figure when he chose to take George W. Bush -- George H.W. Bush, rather, after he lost the Senate campaign and made him U.N. ambassador. And I think that lesson, too, Sean, is that, this position requires heavy weights, like George H.W. Bush at the U.N. And that's why I hope President Trump will choose Ric Grenell for that position. But whether it's Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Senator McCain, George H.W. Bush, you see where vision as a plenty when they pass away. HANNITY: Mollie, thanks for joining us. What are thoughts on it. It is a bit of a phenomenon though. And to me this is phoniness about it. Like, for example, I didn't care that John McCain when he came back after he serve, he said these guys on talk radio and cable said with them. I'm cool with that. You know, he kind of like me when he's running for president and like those outlets when he was running. I didn't take it personally. But this is so overwhelmingly transparent to me. MOLLIE HEMINGWAY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: And it is particularly phony in the case of President George H.W. Bush. You know, that's the issue where the only good Republican is a Republican who is not a threat. So, we saw a pretty quick change in the media coverage of President George H.W. Bush from when he was president to the moment Clinton defeated him. But when he was a candidate, when he was the vice president, when he was running when he was president, the media coverage was vicious. And they called him a whimp, that was the headline, that was the cover of Newsweek magazine. So, to say today, he was so kind and was so respectable, well, this was the same media that was decrying him for his personal traits. They lied about him and his reaction to a supermarket scanner which is something that the New York Times not only never corrected, they repeated it just yesterday. And his media coverage was so bad that his primary campaign bumper sticker when he ran for reelection was, annoy the media, reelect Bush. To say that he did not run a campaign against the media is just wrong. And so, people are rewriting here in a way that it's not OK. HANNITY: Yes. You know, one other thing that's so amazing. It was a lifetime of service. That was the greatest generation, Doug Schoen. And my father also signed up and he served in the navy as well. And look, we look at this, and it's like you're literally hearing people, this is the death of a really honorable human being. DOUG SCHOEN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. HANNITY: That served his country his whole adult life. And a lot of those same people who aren't nice to me during his life. But now he is a nice one and now they'll use that to bludgeon Trump because they don't like President Trump. SCHOEN: Well, look, I think that's ridiculous. I speak as a Democrat. I look at-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's not you. And I don't -- I don't put you in a category of the average snowflake Democrat to be honest. SCHOEN: I'm not. But I want to say one other thing that about George H.W. Bush that is bipartisan and I think transcended in importance. He more than any single individual was responsible for the fall of the Soviet Union, the fall of the wall. The end of communism in eastern and central Europe. And if we as Democrats and Republicans can't celebrate that now there's something wrong with us and I hope that President Trump in his foreign policy has a similar success. HANNITY: Listen, I would argue real quick, Monica, the policies of President Trump on regulation on taxes on justices and judges on the courts, all on the wall even peace through strength standing up to our enemies, identifying evil for what it is pretty similar to what President Reagan and President Trump -- President Bush also stood for. CROWLEY: Yes, a hundred percent which is part of the reason why the mainstream media and others who oppose President Trump oppose him. But they mostly oppose him, Sean, based on style. They are reposed by him. They consider him a Bulgarian and they reject his style and they load him in every way, but his policies are quite popular. He's delivering a booming economy-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know, that's the thing. CROWLEY: -- and a stronger military and a stronger international position and the American voters agree with that and supported. HANNITY: You know, shocking, Mollie, I'll give you the last word, we have about 25 seconds. That every president has their own style and sometimes the moment calls for like, I would argue this one disruptive. Yes, Donald Trump breaks a few dishes but things are getting done and we needed them to get done. HEMINGWAY: Well, and it's OK for different presidents to have different styles. It's disrespectful in this media coverage of President George H.W. Bush's death to make it all about Trump. They're two different people and it does a disservice to both of them. And it manages to be disrespectful to both of them. HANNITY: All right. Thank you all for being with us. We appreciate it. SCHOEN: Thank you. HEMINGWAY: Thanks. HANNITY: A lot more news tonight as we check in Steve Harrigan live on the grounds. He's in Tijuana as that crisis continues. He'll update us on the migrant caravan. Also, former acting ICE director Tom Homan, Geraldo Rivera, they'll debate and if you have young children, five, six years old they're not allowed to watch the end of the show tonight or towards the end. You won't believe what one teacher told the students about Santa Claus. The war on Christmas is back straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us live from Tijuana the very latest update on the massive migrant caravan stalled along the U.S.-Mexico, Fox News correspondent our own Steve Harrigan is there tonight. Steve, the latest. STEVE HARRIGAN, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Sean, the new Mexican government is really trying to get a grip on the situation on the border. They basically shut down food deliveries, water, even bathroom to that sports complex. There was one point, holding as many as 6,000 people, most of those from Central American nations and really conditions of squalor. Human waste, mud, respiratory infections. They've really tried to shut it down and move people to a new shelter further away from the U.S. border about 10 miles further away. Conditions at the shelter still tough but at least there's concrete on the ground instead of the mud. We spoke to a woman there this morning with two small children. She said she was given pizza 16 hours ago but nothing since then. So, a little more livable not the help as says it was. One final thing to note about this new shelter. We've really seen the numbers go down from about 6,000 to 2,000. Many people saying that people have either gone back to Central American nations, they're staying here in Mexico to try and find jobs or small groups crossing over the border illegally into the U.S. Sean, back to you. HANNITY: All right. Steve in Tijuana tonight, thank you. And unbelievable story to share this weekend Washington Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal met up with the caravan in Tijuana, tweeted, quote, " I was able to successfully assist five asylum-seekers, two unaccompanied minors, a mother and her nine-year-old child had a young man with a serious medical condition into the United States." Meanwhile, new census data tonight shows that 63 percent of noncitizens, 63 percent are using some sort of welfare program compared to 35 percent in native households. In other words, people that are here American citizens households. Joining us now with reaction, former ICE chief, Tom Homan is with us and Fox News correspondent Geraldo Rivera. You know, Geraldo, there's only two things that I want. Actually, I want no more wall with the door and I want -- well, three. I want be able to vet people so that our citizens are safe if we bring new people in and I want to make sure that people come in and they're not financially the average right now is $70,000 per year per illegal immigrant, you know, that we pay annually per person. We can't afford that, Geraldo, we have citizens that could that need some of that money. GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT-AT-LARGE: First of all, Sean, can I join you in sending my love and affection to the Bush family. RIVERA: Of course. RIVERA: A great family, passing of a great man who was an incredible example of service to our nation. Tom, I recognize your service as well. Let me just say hi and acknowledge. You know, migrants come in-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You just ruin the whole show, by the way. Being nice to our other guest you just, you know, this is twice now you've done this. RIVERA: I just because I am sincere man. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I know. I'm kidding you. RIVERA: I'm just telling you how I stand. I think there would you remember back or when your family tells the story of how your forebears came to this country there were also dirt poor. The Irish were fleeing the potato famine. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Ten bucks in the-- RIVERA: The Italians were fleeing their devastated economy. The Jews of Eastern Europe coming and fleeing the programs. There's always a reason for the immigrants. They come that first generation, they often don't speak the native language, they're dirt poor, they work their way up, they realize the American dream. They come. The invent Google, they, you know, invent all of these new gizmos and businesses. That is what, it is the lifeblood that feeds our Republic, Sean. We are a nation that we take people from the four corners. I mean, just the fact that they can get here shows that they are-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. I don't have a lot. I get that. But listen, you are not addressing the main point. We, my grandparents, you're right, they were poor. Irish Catholic need not apply my fore grandparents, you know. RIVERA: Right. HANNITY: But the point is they came in legally. Claim asylum. I have the full work records I actually have freight, Tom, and that's, again, I go back to my three things here. A wall with a door protects everybody, vet people to make sure they're not our enemies, and three that they got to be able to take care of themselves financially and not count on the American people. THOMAS HOMAN, FORMER ACTING DIRECTOR, UNITED STATES IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT: Look, I agree with you, Sean. But before I go on with that question, I need to call up this congressman that you just, that tweeted the story. What she did she use her official position to go down there and do a political stunt and take these five people and put them ahead of 2,800 people that were standing in line asylum-seekers too. She went down there and use her official position to break the rules and play a political stunt. But she must to blame our president saying he used the caravan political stunt. The president is doing his job. He's protecting our border, he's securing the border, he's protecting America. He's protecting the sovereignty in this country, and you know what, he's doing a damn good job at it. HANNITY: Geraldo? HOMAN: And anybody who doesn't recognize that is ignoring the facts. HANNITY: Geraldo? HOMAN: So, this congressman rather than being a political stunt she did ought to be sitting her butt in in Washington, D.C. and fixing the loopholes that cause this caravan to even happen. HANNITY: Let me go back to-- (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: On December 7th-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And these guys are getting hit with rocks and bottles. HOMAN: Yes, sir. RIVERA: On December 7 the government runs out of money. The president is threatening a shutdown unless they come up with the $5 billion down payment for the wall. The congressional leaders as I understand have just beg the president to extend the deadline for two weeks with some short-term financing. Let's get behind the solution right now. Build the wall, give him the financing, give amnesty to the DREAMers. The youngsters brought here at a young age through no fault of their own. Build the wall, free the DREAMers. This is a compromise, Sean, that you can champion. HANNITY: Excuse me, Geraldo, the president offered that and they decided to use it as a political weapon. Tom, you get the last word. HOMAN: Yes, sir. Look, this president I've worked for six president I respect them all. But no one has done more for more security and public safety and protect the sovereignty in this country than President Trump. I agree with Geraldo. We need to stand behind him. We need to build that wall, but that needs come first. HANNITY: Yes. HOMAN: Border security need to come before rewarding people for illegal behavior. HANNITY: Exactly. HOMAN: That's what gets us in trouble every year. HANNITY: We'll put a big door it will say, one will say, Geraldo, the other will say Trump. It will be great. RIVERA: Compromise is heard. We both have to give. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And we'll pull in for Tom. RIVERA: Compromise is heard. HANNITY: All right. Thank you both. When we come back, you may not want your young kids to watch. I'll explain. You won't believe what a teacher in New Jersey is saying about Santa and much more. Shocking. The war on Christmas straight ahead. HANNITY: I hate to say this. I never anyone to tune up, but if you have young children you may not want them to see this next segment, in fact, you may want them to leave the room. Because while the Christmas season is a time for fun and celebration, especially for kids, family gatherings and trips to sit on Santa's lap tell what you want for Christmas. In New Jersey a substitute teacher Montville, New Jersey decided to tarnish the holiday for five and six-year-old first-graders, going off on a Grinch -like diatribe during a writing assignment about how Santa isn't real. Fake news how reindeer can fly more fake news. And she didn't stop there. Telling the students the Easter bunny, the tooth fairy they're not real either. More fake news. And now following outrage from parents, school officials now apologized and said that they've talk to her about her, quote, "poor judgment." Really? Robbing a kid of happiness at Christmas. Here with reaction, Catalina magazine publisher, Cathy Areu, Fox News contributor, Rachel Campos-Duffy is with us. Good to see you both. Cathy, just tell me you don't see this as wrong. CATHY AREU, PUBLISHER, CATALINA MAGAZINE: It's definitely wrong. I happen to be a certified teacher in New Jersey, so I know the rules. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That's scary. AREU: Quite scary. That's scary, no. HANNITY: A little bit. AREU: But I know the rules quite well and you're not allowed to put your personal beliefs into the classroom and if the parent's personal beliefs are that Santa is real, as we all know, and the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What would you tell your kids? AREU: I would tell my kids what I would want them to believe, and I would do the research and I would pass that-- HANNITY: And what is that? AREU: -- on to the children. HANNITY: I'm asking what you would tell them. AREU: The truth that Santa is definitely real. I would not say those things in the classroom. You cannot. You could be fired-- HANNITY: OK. Rachel, here's the problem. AREU: -- for imposing those beliefs in the classroom, it's like religion, you don't bring that up in the classroom. You don't bring up these things in the classroom. HANNITY: It's a captive audience. RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Amen to that. HANNITY: We know what happens in high school junior high, college for sure, you know, it seems like academe is just run by leftists that have a very different world view but they have a captive audience and they try to indoctrinate kids. These are five and six-year-old kids literally shattering what is probably the best day of the year for many of them. And appropriate-- (CROSSTALK) CAMPOS-DUFFY: I know. Leave it to-- HANNITY: -- no, fire this -- we can't fire teachers today. AREU: You could fire a substitute. She's probably fired. CAMPOS-DUFFY: Well, but the school district to be clear, Cathy, the school district has said, well, we're working through this. Working through what? (CROSSTALK) AREU: Firing her. CAMPOS-DUFFY: This teacher clearly has poor judgment should not be working with young children and clearly doesn't understand that the parents are the primary and most important teachers and there, and her point of view, her belief system should never supersede that of the parents. Look, this is the indoctrination of kids. It keeps going younger and younger. Liberals ruined Halloween now they're working on Christmas. This is a really, really bad thing. One good thing that come out of this is that Cathy and I agree 100 percent for maybe the first time. AREU: First time ever. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. But let's say this. But Cathy, you know this is true. CAMPOS-DUFFY: We've known each other for a long time. HANNITY: Once you have tenure this is unholy alliance between Democrats and teachers in New York City. For example, has teachers even accused of inappropriate behavior with students and all they do is parked them and continue to pay them. We need to be able to fire people that are not up to the job. AREU: They are fires. I'm a tenured teacher. I got my tenure in Florida. As I am a tenured teacher. HANNITY: Well, for a New York City-- ARE: And no, I would have, had I cross the line if I said that about Santa, I don't think the parents would have defended me. And I think the school would have said goodbye. The parents right now are very conflicted whether they should lie to their kids about certain things and that seems to be the controversy. But when it comes to this, I don't think this teacher is going to make it in the classroom. HANNITY: Rachel, we'll give you the last word. CAMPOS-DUFFY: I think the answer -- the answer -- the answer, Sean, is school choice. So, if the school is not responding to what the parents want, clearly, we all know Santa is real and these parents are furious at the substitute teacher, the answer is a school choice. So parent have a choice of where they want to send their kids. HANNITY: Yes. For all the kids if they did watch Santa is real. AREU: Definitely. HANNITY: Rudolf is real. I used to (Inaudible) tooth fairy is real. If you heard it from any teacher or anybody, they are fake news. When we come back, we'll continue to remember the life, the legacy of President Bush 41 as spoken in the words of Bush 43. That's next. HANNITY: All right. So, in 2014 when I wasn't quite as young looking as 2004 I traveled to Texas to interview former President George W. Bush about his dad. Here is a particularly touching moment that shows the close bond between father and son. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GEORGE W. BUSH, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It's a loud shout- out to how blessed I am. HANNITY: Yes. BUSH: To be able to have your parents alive during the presidency and, of course, having them thrive after the president. I mean, after all this is a guy who jumped out of a helicopter on his 90th birthday. HANNITY: I saw the video. BUSH: It's unbelievable. HANNITY: By the way, you voted yes on that. BUSH: Yes. HANNITY: I guess the family. Your mother was suspicious. Some of the doctors didn't think it was a good idea. BUSH: Yes. Well, the chief of staff calling around and saying what do you think. And I said, jump. And, you know, after all, it had to have made him feel very young. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right, that's all the time we have left this evening. Our prayers for the Bush family. Laura Ingraham standing by in Washington. Load-Date: December 4, 2018 End of Document Media Bashing And Criticizing President Trump Instead Of Honoring The Life And Legacy Of President George H.W. Bush; President Trump And Rudy Giuliani Attack Mueller's Team For Intimidation Tactics On Witnesses; U.N. Panel Opposes Media Outlets Critical of Immigration; Interview with Nigel Farage; U.S. Company Brings Case Against Chinese Companies For Unfair Trade Practices Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST December 3, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8035 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Matt Schlapp, Byron York, Trace Gallagher Guests: Mike Huckabee, Craig Shirley, C. Boyden Gray, Jon Sale, Nigel Farage, Marty Davis Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Some of the doctors didn't think it was good idea. GEORGE W. BUSH, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Yes. Well, the chief of staff calling around saying what do you think and I said jump. And, you know, after all, it had to have made him feel very young. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right, that's all the time we have left this evening. Our prayers for the Bush family. Laura Ingraham standing by in Washington. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Sean, great to see you, fantastic show tonight and -- HANNITY: Have a great show. INGRAHAM: yes, it's a weird feeling here in Washington. It's an odd, odd moment for all of us who grew up and worked in the Reagan-Bush administration. It's just a breathtaking -- HANNITY: You're right. That's where my political interest came from. INGRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: Watching those 12 years defined my love of politics for sure. INGRAHAM: Absolutely, for all of us. Thanks so much, Sean. Great show tonight. HANNITY: Thank you. INGRAHAM: I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington tonight. A day of tributes in the nation's capital after the passing of the 41st president of the United States, George H.W. Bush, and in moments, my ANGLE takes a look at how the media are shamelessly using what should be this reverend occasion, well, to hit the current occupant of the White House, President Trump. And also tonight, a jarring admission from a U.N. panel. Could criticizing mass migrations actually become a criminal offense? A story you will need to see to believe. Plus, President Trump and Rudy Giuliani are opening new lines of attack on how Bob Mueller's team is conducting the witness interviews. With no collusion in sight, has the special counsel actually crossed the Rubicon here? We're going to examine that. But first, honoring Bush by bashing Trump. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. When a former president passes away it's appropriate to celebrate his life, his achievements and to remind the public of his record and his legacy. Sadly, though, with the death of George H.W. Bush some in the media and politicians from both parties are abusing this moment to trash, instead, the sitting president. As the Bush motorcade was making its way to the capitol for the last time MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace, a former Bush aide herself, could not restrain herself. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NICOLLE WALLACE, MSNBC HOST: I think what everyone is getting at is that under Donald Trump the office of the presidency has been debased in a way that's unimaginable for people who served every past president. I think what's lost in this moment is our reverence and our dependence and the way we need and rely upon the elegance and the traditions of the presidency. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Let's get this straight. She's talking about reverence and she's trashing the current president as the motorcade is inching its way up Capitol Hill. And then there was this gem from earlier in the day. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let's see what happens at Wednesday's memorial service. My prediction is that Trump fakes more respect for a family whose unprecedented history of public service has repeatedly belittled, then he goes back to making a mockery of the very office George Bush and this nation long revered. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well think about it this way, President Bush was a man who loved his country, loved his family, his faith and his friends. He was a war hero and a dedicated public servant throughout most of his life. So are these folks really honoring that legacy and his innate sense of decency and kindness by slashing the man who entered the White House 25 years after him? Look, even if you don't care for President Trump, even if you just hate President Trump, try showing just a little bit of class and decorum, as Bush 41 would have. The hits on Trump -- subtle and not subtle at all -- have been interwoven throughout the commentary and the coverage. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They both believe that the presidency is bigger than themselves which is not something that this president always adheres to. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What George Herbert Walker Bush is being remembered for this week isn't a tweet or isn't a press release or nothing much more than his fundamental character. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I do not know how it's going to work when Donald Trump is an ex-president and theoretically a member of this club. I really think it's going to change because I don't think these men who share something in common will share that in common with Donald Trump. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: At some point you don't even know what to say to these people. That was Ron Klain by the way. They lack all sense of decency. They reduce a presidential death to just a political battering ram like any other issue. But what you hear -- if you listen closely, is the last gasp of an embittered establishment. Now, as we have seen across Europe and across much of the United States, populism is swamping the old guard, whether it's on the right or on the left. So rather than direct their anger at Trump, the establishment frankly in both parties should be directing it at themselves, for it is their policies that the voters turned against in 2016. Things like open borders, China trade, NAFTA, high taxes, endless wars, those weren't Trump policies. Those were the policies of the establishment and the establishments GOP'ers apparently think that the way, what, win them back the people that they lost to Trump is to belittle the president non-stop, even during formal and informal on-air eulogies and tributes? At a time like this when a father, a grandfather, a great grandfather and a former president has died, we should be bigger than the petty politics of the moment. I think we should be capable of uniting as Americans and celebrating the best of George H.W. Bush without resorting to the same old usual political snark and calumny. And isn't that what President Bush would have wanted? And that's The Angle. Joining me now, we have an amazing panel, former governor of Arkansas and Fox News contributor Mike Huckabee, presidential historian, Reagan biographer Craig Shirley and former White House counsel to George H.W. Bush, Ambassador C. Boyden Gray. All of you, it is great to have you. I know our former President Bush would love the fact that we're all getting together to talk about this moment and his legacy and honor him for who he was, his patriotism, his love of country, his deep sense of public service. Craig, I want to start with you. What did Bush, I mean, you knew him -- I knew him not as well as Boyden. I want to hear from Boyden on this, but we grew up in the Reagan revolution. I worked for President Reagan, Reagan- Bush. You know, worked there. If it weren't for Reagan-Bush I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't be doing this. CRAIG SHIRLEY, PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN: Neither would I. INGRAHAM: None of us would be here doing this. SHIRLEY: Right, that's right. It would be a different world for me. INGRAHAM: Yes. So, a different world, but I have to believe that the man he was wouldn't have loved a lot of the stuff he's hearing. SHIRLEY: You know, it's amazing, it's just that -- is that, you know, when Eisenhower was in office -- they derided Eisenhower as (inaudible). He couldn't read if his lips were chapped. And then he becomes a battering ram used by the establishment against conservatives. Richard Nixon was cited the other day, I saw on MSNBC as an exemplary president and remember how they treated Richard Nixon in office. Gerald Ford was mocked when he was in the White House and then they made him an exemplary figure. They like presidents -- Republican presidents who no longer have power. They bashed the heck out of George Bush when he was in office, annoy the bumper sticker in 1992, annoy the media both for Bush -- INGRAHAM: We're going to get to that in a second. SHIRLEY: Yes. In `88 he had famous dust-ups with the media. He banned "Newsweek" from his campaign plane because they produced that awful cover. INGRAHAM: You never know this. We're going to get to the media angle on this, but now I have to say, Boyden, as a White House counsel you knew the Bushes so well. When I first met you it was just at the end of the Bush era in 1992. It's a heartbreaking loss. But, you know, listening to Bill Kristol for instance today, he tried to capture what he thought were the big conflicts of the moment, again, at a time where it's just great to honor who Bush was. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BILL KRISTOL, EDITOR-AT-LARGE, THE WEEKLY STANDARD: There were Reagan Republicans and Bush Republicans. There is W. Bush Republicans and McCain Republicans, and what strikes me compared to today is what they all have in common. And then the Reagan Republicans and the Bush Republicans, the McCain Republicans some were a little more conservative than others. They had different views on some issues, but they all respected the country, respected the institutions, tried to live up to what they thought was a pretty impressive history, pretty impressive future for this country and that is unfortunately, I believe, a contrast with the Donald Trump's Republican Party. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I kind of agreed with everything up until the very last minute. SHIRLEY: Up to the very last minute. INGRAHAM: Boyden, your sense about just how rank the abuse of this moment is just to, again, as Craig said, bash Trump. C. BOYDEN GRAY, FORMER COUNSEL TO GEORGE H.W. BUSH: It doesn't make any sense and he wouldn't have done this -- that is, 41 wouldn't have, and two of Trump's greatest achievements, deregulation and judges were right out of the Bush playbook. So, I don't understand why Kristol would turn what was actually a pretty good recital into a negative in the last two sentences. It doesn't make any sense. INGRAHAM: Governor Huckabee, like all of us sitting here who owe so much to the Reagan-Bush legacy, to see, you know, the family gather, this is a moment of mourning and it is a moment of reflection on a life well lived. Policy debates. They're important. Craig writes about them. I speak about them. But at this moment it's about this incredible man. I mean, what an amazing family this was. I mean, they were well to do but they never lost that kind of innate sense of love of country and love of family, and their faith, which is being underplayed by some today, conveniently. MIKE HUCKABEE, FORMER GOVERNOR OF ARKANSAS: You know, if I'm going to get a lesson in how to deal with a death and how to do it with class and dignity, I'm not going to look to Mika Brzezinski, I'm not going to look to Nicolle Wallace or Bill Kristol. I'm going to look to President George H.W. Bush who -- even though he was not real fond of the 45th president and thought that some of his ways were not his, but he intentionally made sure that this president would be invited to be a part of the funeral service. Laura, that's class. That's dignity. That's the president Bush that we loved and considered to be a great statesman, who loved his country more than he disliked anybody, and I think he gave us the template for how to handle these kind of moments and we ought to be taking our lessons from the man that we're honoring whose casket lies in state at the Capitol right now. INGRAHAM: Yes. I always get such a lump in my throat when you see the casket being walked up the steps, and it's just -- it's sad that these are the types of moments that are required to get us to stop for a moment or should stop for a moment. Like, we're Americans. We want to be successful, and free, and independent. We have an incredible history and incredible founding documents. It shouldn't be just these moments. I want to talk to all of you for a moment about the recasting of the historical narrative. Craig, we talked about this a little bit on the radio this morning. Some of the more absurd moments of the past 24 hours came when the rabidly anti-Trump press again tried to piggyback on the death of an American patriot to defend their own reputations. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC SHOW HOST: He understood that the press wasn't the enemy of the people, and even said basically at the end of the day, "We're all in this together and I will be here for you just like I know you would be here for me." What a remarkable difference between 1988 and 2018. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it was a mark of that sense of respect as I say that was very, very noticeable then and is all -- is virtually absent now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He had good relations with the media. He called us the media, invited us to White House dinners occasionally. He kept up with us. I was just reading Maureen Dowd. I love Maureen Dowd. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: All right. This rank revisionism is stunning and it's -- they regularly spewed vile against George H.W. Bush. Boyden, you worked at the White House. I was here as a young Reagan staffer. They were trashing him. And Maureen Dowd by the way, who is lionizing him today, I mean, and she's a very -- I love her writing. I'm going to say it's really fun. She used to call him like -- just belittle the Bushes like what they watched, what they listened to for music. I was reading a column from May 1, 1990. She called them the gracious cruise director of international politics. She lampooned him for patting Barbara on the derriere during the Dukakis campaign. That's the nice stuff she said about him. As for his great relationship with the press as we alluded to earlier, look at this 1987 "Newsweek" cover. Bush considered it the cheapest shot of his political career. Check it out. Well, you could read it. It's like referring to him as the wimp factor, or how about this great relationship with Dan Rather during a 1988 interview. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GEORGE H.W. BUSH, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, Dan, let's be careful here because you're -- DAN RATHER, CBS NEWS HOST: I want you to be careful, Mr. Vice president. How do you explain -- you can't remember if the other people at the meeting say he was apoplectic. BUSH: I wasn't there at that point. RATHER: You weren't in the meeting? BUSH: I'm not suggesting. I'm just saying I don't remember. RATHER: I don't want to be argumentative Mr. Vice President. (CROSSTALK) BUSH: It's not fair to judge a whole career. It's not fair to judge my whole career by a rehash on Iran. How would you like it if I judged your career by those seven minutes when you walked off the set in New York? Would you like that? RATHER: Mr. Vice President -- BUSH: I have respect for you but I don't have respect for what you are doing here tonight. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: All right, give us all a break. We could go on and on with this but Craig, that just -- Helen Thomas, all of these crowd, Boyden, you had to deal with these people. SHIRLEY: -- with "The Washington Post" once wrote that George Bush reminded every woman of her first husband. I mean, the media was vicious to him during the `80 campaign. He got in a very contentious argument with a group of reporters because they charged he wasn't tough enough to be president. This man was a war hero. He would set out in the wilds of Texas to create a business. Of course he was tough enough and he got really angry with them. He says, "You know, none of you ever had to watch your child die. I did." So this idea that he wasn't tough enough to be president, which is nonsense. But the media, the wimp factor, which was written by Evan Thomas, who was the original red-diaper baby because his parents were both well-known rich limousine liberals, is that they viciously attacked him all during his presidential career. INGRAHAM: I'm going to tweet this column after the show or during the commercial break, "Bush's Taste Down Home to Less so" ridiculing the Bushes morning -- I'll just read this one piece because it captures what -- everything that elites think, and they were the elite. I mean, the Bushes were the elites. This is the media elites trashing Bush because he was a Republican, Boyden. GRAY: Well, I knew that he was going to win the election. And with that Dan Rather thing, I happen to be in the White House and stayed, couldn't leave for three hours because of the phone response. INGRAHAM: Love it. GRAY: They loved it. And to think that he was a wimp or something like that, when he took on Dan Rather, that was one of the high points of his campaign and I think one -- INGRAHAM: But Boyden, you were there, Craig was there, I was there. This was nonstop combat. People had this -- looking back, all that Reagan was an avuncular man. Reagan was so nice and optimistic. Trump is so mean while Bush is so -- Bush was tough when he need to be. They're different personalities. Different world experiences. So what? It's OK. SHIRLEY: The author, Evan Thomas -- the "Newsweek" was banned from the -- INGRAHAM: Banned from Air Force One. Mike Huckabee, Jamie Gangel who interviewed the Bushes many times. Remember -- everyone has to remember Bush did not vote for Donald Trump. He called him a blowhard according to, you know, he said "I didn't like Trump, but I know he's a blowhard." Bush didn't like Trump. That's fine. I mean, I disagree with him but it's fine. Jamie Gangel spoke today on CNN about whether the Bush funeral and the memory of George H.W. Bush will necessarily alter the way Donald Trump speaks. Like he should have different policies, I guess, because George H.W. Bush passed away, and I want to play this exchange for you, governor, and have you react on the other side. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMIE GANGEL, CNN SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT: Will it have an effect on the tenor of this town? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a great point and a great question because we had this conversation just three months ago when we said farewell to Senator McCain and everybody thought maybe that would be a reset moment in Washington and, of course, it was not. GANGEL: The Bush family has said he has the White House and I think John Kelly has been responsible for this, that they have really just opened the doors, bent over backwards to make everything work. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But come next week do we see a more bipartisan Washington when they get back to the border wall fight, when we're back to new developments on the special counsel? I would not bet on it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, so governor, Trump should give up the wall because George H.W. Bush died. That's the argument they're actually making on CNN. HUCKABEE: Sophistry. I know. Every president has his own personality. They have their own focus and you know, the media in what you've just played has reminded us why most of Americans absolutely don't trust them and hold them in contempt. And every president has their contentious relationship with the press. This one that we have now is probably, maybe has the most contentious relationship but is in large measure because the press absolutely refuses to be journalists and they just want to be opinion mongers. And it's unfortunate they're taking what ought to be the celebration of a great patriot, a great statesman, a great selfless servant of this nation and instead of focusing upon his qualities, they're trying to focus on what they perceive to be as the lack of qualities in Donald Trump -- the very qualities that many Americans, frankly, believe to be the reason he's president right now. INGRAHAM: Seven percent, Craig, of the media, seven percent voted for George H.W. Bush and (inaudible) Boyden's (inaudible) goes, wait a second. Was it that many? (CROSSTALK) GRAY: They did not plug (ph) it, did they? INGRAHAM: So again -- GRAY: I guess they had a lot of writers at "National Review" that year. INGRAHAM: They embrace a Republican in death but don't treat them fairly in life when they're actually in office, appointing people like Justice Clarence Thomas. Remember it? They trashed him for the Clarence Thomas for whom I worked and love. GRAY: Remember the hearings? Remember the Thomas hearings, how vicious they were? INGRAHAM: Yes, well again. GRAY: Yes, right. INGRAHAM: So, but that is the world as it is. We're not trying to gloss over the real differences that exist but Craig, Reagan and Bush, you have written about it, "Rendezvous with Destiny" which is one of the great, great biographies of Reagan. Tell us a little bit about that. SHIRLEY: It was very contentious. They didn't get along. The 80's primaries, Boyden was there. It was heated. It was argumentative. They were in two cultural universes, is that, you know, one was more moderate, the other one was more conservative. It was a marriage of convenience at the Detroit convention. The Reagan so opposed picking George Bush who most people thought was the obvious choice because Bush had come in second in the primaries, had foreign policy experience and all that. is that they sought the co- presidency with Gerald Ford and then tried to get Paul Laxalt, former senator or senator from Nevada on the ticket. So they very much resisted the idea of picking George Bush. INGRAHAM: But they ended up having eight years -- SHIRLEY: Yes. INGRAHAM: -- in the White House and boy, it was a great partnership. GRAY: It was a great relationship. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: So, it ended up being a really good pick in the end. SHIRLEY: But that's politics. INGRAHAM: That's politics. It's a good -- it's a trade-off, right, Boyden? GRAY: Yes, absolutely. It was a great choice and Reagan really appreciated Bush who never wanted to take credit for the great things he did for Reagan, but Reagan knew. INGRAHAM: In a way, a perfect vice president. GRY: Yes. He was. Yes. INGRAHAM: Governor Huckabee, final thought? HUCKABEE: Well, I think it's a great time for us to reflect upon what service and sacrifice is all about. George Bush was a courageous man who enlisted to serve his country under age, shot down. He lived his life -- an exemplary life of family, faith and love of country. God bless him and God bless his memory. INGRAHAM: We should pray tonight for his family and all those who are grieving and mourning. For our country, learn something going forward about you can disagree but at these moments it's time to be Americans and stand for all the goodness in his life. Great panel. Thank you so much. And President Trump and his attorney Rudy Giuliani ramping up their attacks on the special counsel. Is their anger warranted at this juncture? An examination in depth, next. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) RUDY GIULIANI, LAWYER FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, I think the special prosecutor has stepped over the line now with the way he's intimidating people in order to tell what he believes is his version of the truth. An ethical prosecutor would stop this and pursue some other line of inquiry with other people. You can only exert a certain amount of pressure before it becomes unethical and destructive. (END AUDIO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The president's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, is taking aim at what he calls the destructive tactics employed by special counsel Bob Mueller's team. Now, this was soon followed by the president taking issue with a possible plea deal between his old lawyer, Michael Cohen, and Mueller's team, a deal that could spare Trump's former attorney, jail time. "You mean he can do all of the terrible, unrelated to Trump things having to do with fraud, big loans, taxes, et cetera and not serve a long prison term? He lied for this outcome and should in my opinion serve a full and complete sentence. Throw away the key. Joining me now is Jon Sale, former Watergate prosecutor, Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union and Byron York, chief political correspondent at the "Washington Examiner" and a Fox News contributor. All right Jon, let me start with you. Is there a method to this madness now being employed by the president and Giuliani? They're kind of tag-teaming on Mueller. What's the theory, strategy, point of that? JON SALE, FORMER WATERGATE PROSECUTOR: Well, I don't think its madness. I think what they need is to maintain support in the Senate and most importantly with the American people. But as a defense lawyer, Michael Cohen is a dream. A dream, but I'm troubled by the power of prosecutors. Michael Cohen, the first thing that comes to your mind. What is he? He's a fixer. Well, I don't know what a fixer is. Nobody has on LinkedIn card I'm a fixer. I mean, I know dentist, I know doctors. I don't think I have ever met a fixer. So Michael Cohen taped his own client. What lawyer has taped his own client? A judge found probable cause to authorize searches of Michael Cohen's residence, his hotel, his office. They found a treasure trove of information which led to his plea in the southern district of New York to tax evasion, to false statements to a bank, which involved lying, then his lawyer goes on CNN and offers up his testimony to the special counsel. Well, is that a way to try and sell your cooperation? And then after that what's his plea? His plea, what is it of all things? It's to lying. So if that's the best they can do, there is something wrong with I think the power of prosecutors. There is incentive to shade the truth. INGRAHAM: Well, I'm saying it as an old defense attorney. It's way out of control. They've got no real supervision. They can never budget -- they can blow their budget and just get more money. Byron York, I want to go to you. Michael Isikoff, Yahoo News, said to tonight special counsel Bob Mueller's prosecutors have told defense lawyers in recent weeks that they're tying up loose ends in their investigation providing the clearest clues yet that the long- running probe into Russia's in the campaign may be coming to its climax potentially in the next few weeks right before Christmas. BYRON YORK, WASHINGTON EXAMINER: Yes. I mean, now that has been a question recently, you know. When we heard about Mueller talking to this whole Jerome Corsi stuff and Roger Stone stuff and then wrapping up Michael Cohen, you know, what's going on? Was he either opening up new inquiries in which we would have this investigation, you know, through 2020 or something? Or was he really trying to tie things up in a bow and finish it up? So, a lot of these complaints that we're hearing from the president and Giuliani about Mueller could be coming at a time when Mueller's actually winding down. INGRAHAM: Matt Schlapp, now they're actually floating the idea that Trump talking about his constitutional right to pardon could be tantamount to witness tampering. Just for fun on a Monday night let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In the middle of an active investigation, President Trump praises Roger Stone for not testifying against him. Is this witness tampering? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That is what some lawyers would suggest cite 18 USC 1512 -- laws against witness tampering. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is right on the edge of witness tampering. Federal law makes it a crime to do anything to dissuade or try to postpone or delay someone's testimony. (END VIDEO CLIP) MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: Can I just try to explain something here, which is everybody involved in this investigation - - if you're Mike Flynn, if you're Paul Manafort, any of these names you just mentioned, they all know that there is a chance of a presidential pardon and they all know the president has already used his pardon powers, you know, I wouldn't say aggressively but robustly. So they all know this is at play. So, what is -- why is Michael Cohen doing what he's doing? He's a no-down (ph) dirty dog. They have everything on him they could possibly want. INGRAHAM: Well, he wants it -- well, he was looking at, you know, basically life in prison. Now it's down to about 60 months. SCLAPP: Right. Because he has a corrupt business INGRAHAM: They want that wiped out all together. SCHLAPP: But it's his corrupt business. Just remember, its corrupt business. That's what they got on him. INGRAHAM: Taxi shield. YORK: Remember when Papadopoulos pleaded to lying and Van Der Zwaan pleaded to lying, and Flynn pleaded to lying, people said, well, I guess they're not going to use them as witnesses because they've just pleaded to lying. This has just happened to Michael Cohen. So Mueller is not planning to use these men as -- INGRAHAM: They're not nothing, but they're process crimes. YORK: -- as witnesses in a future prosecution. INGRAHAM: But John, we don't know what Mueller has. I keep saying this as an attorney. You don't know what the Mueller team has. Andrew Weissmann, he's not over there at the southwest Washington at the Mueller headquarters with the marble faux pillars out front where he's playing pattycake. So there's something that we're not seeing that they're holding back. I'm not saying it's the big kahuna here, but there is something else going on because otherwise the week -- they wrote this editorial today. They said the following, the special counsel has taken his attention away from diplomacy and other ordinary business of the presidency. Mueller has failed to deliver the goods not simply because there are no goods to deliver but because delivering them is not the point. The point is to hurt Trump. They haven't gotten close to conclusion. Even old Jake Tapper said that last week. JON SALE, FORMER ASSISTANT WATERGATE PROSECUTOR: Regardless of what Mueller, nobody is pointing out that there is a presumption of innocence which goes to everybody, including the president. So I just am at a loss for everybody saying, my God, Mueller must have something and the world is going to cave in. Whatever Mueller has -- INGRAHAM: I just there is some trick. There are some tricks up their sleeves. I don't think this is just going to be some tepid report that says they could have just used some better judgment, Byron York, where it's like the appearance of impropriety. I don't know. SALE: Can I put out one thing quickly? INGRAHAM: Real quick, then we've got to get to Byron. SALE: The problem with a special counsel is they're on a mission. If they do a thorough investigation, they have not failed if their conclusion is the president did not break the law. They are just as successful in their mission if they come to that conclusion. INGRAHAM: Bingo, bingo. YORK: It's going to be a one-sided report because that's what he's doing. He's a prosecutor. He's not going to give a defense brief for the president. So he's going to give it to Congress -- it's going to get to Congress. And the new Democratic majority will figure whether -- SCHLAPP: Can I say something fast on that? It's very important. This is a political exercise. Impeachment, special counsels, it's all about politics, Laura. We just had a big nationwide campaign. Show me the ads the Democrats ran on collusion. It's not a real thing. This whole investigation as far as the American people are concerned, as far as their daily lives, has no impact and they're tired of it. INGRAHAM: But later on we'll tell you what does have impact, is what's going on in the trade world and with China. We're going to get into that. And also a shocking proposal -- great segment, guys -- from a United Nations official. Could the mere criticism of mass migration end up now becoming a criminal offense? This is not exaggeration. We're going to play the tape. A story that has my blood boiling and had it boiling over the weekend, next. INGRAHAM: Frightening proposals emerging from a U.N. panel over the weekend. Not only does the so-called United Nations Global Compact for Safe, Orderly, and Regular Migration want to make immigration a universal human right, they want to make it a crime for media outlets to allow for certain types of criticism against migration. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARCEL DE GRAAFF, EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT MEMBER: Criticism of migration will become a criminal offense, and media outlets -- and that also concerns you -- that give room to criticism of migration can be shut down. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Here now is someone who knows more about this than the average Joe, I would say, this diminished E.U. today, is Nigel Farage. He was the vice chairman of the pro-Brexit movement that raised red flags about all these issues, especially on immigration destroying the fiber of the U.K. Nigel, thanks for staying up so late for us tonight. We really appreciate it. Is there a chance that with this global compact on migration that this actually could come to pass, that this type of criticism of migration could be criminalized? NIGEL FARAGE, VICE-CHAIR, LEAVE MEANS LEAVE: You were quite right to say that what the U.N. wants to do is make immigration a human right. What it also wants to do is make illegal immigration legal by defining a refugee as anybody that wants to move between countries. So basically, what it wants to do is to make us all global citizens, and governments are going to this next week. Many will sign up to it without ever consulting their own people. But you are quite right. The most worrying part is the section on the media, where it says very clearly that media outlets who are intolerant, critical, xenophobic, or racist in their criticism of mass migration -- now, as soon as you start to define people like that, you're getting into territory where people can be defined as committing hate crimes. They want to make it -- they actually want to make it illegal to criticize open-door immigration. Is it actually going to work? Well, thankfully, the U.N. itself doesn't have legal power. But -- INGRAHAM: But Nigel, doesn't this also, though, operate as kind of a framework for international human rights cases? And it ends up being a framework that, under a different Supreme Court in this country, could actually be referenced? There are a lot of justices who believe that referencing foreign law is OK, which, of course, it's not the way it's done in our country, and sadly, it's been done in the past. So that's the problem. It becomes another international norm. And climate change is one thing. I'm not talking about climate change, but in this case it's a norm. So if you -- we do a lot of stuff on migration. You and I have talked about the migration, immigration, illegal immigration issue for years. So just talking about the fact that we have so many illegal immigrants on social welfare now in the United States, a big survey came out today, about 60, I think 61 percent on some type of social program, that would be considered, perhaps, hateful. FARAGE: Yes. Here I am in London. There are, as we speak, 1,000 police officers in London who just investigate hate crime. And the definitions of what hate crime get broader and broader. This is an attempt by the U.N. to make any criticism of mass migration something that should be considered criminal. And effectively what they're saying is they will favor media outlets that promote their ideas materially. They're even talking about funding media outlets that support their view. (LAUGHTER) FARAGE: No, I'm being serious. Believe me, I have seen this myself in Brussels, because the European Union, that is the sort of prototype for the globalists. And the European Commission actually give money to media organizations that promote their views and increasingly demonize those that take a different point of view. And you're right, the International Criminal Court, areas like that can start to make judgments in these areas that will, you're quite right, be referenced by national courts. INGRAHAM: And they also, they marginalize voices. You see this happen on social media, it's happening on Twitter, obviously on Facebook, YouTube channels, they're making judgment calls on who and who is not part of the acceptable club. Nigel, I want to play a soundbite from the grand dame of migration, which is Angela Merkel, of course. This is just from a week and a half or so ago. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANGELA MERKEL, GERMAN CHANCELLOR: The pact for migration as well as for refugees is the right answer as we are just as the beginning of solving global problems together internationally. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: You're on satellite, so unless your German is really good, it's basically this is a right. We have to stand up for the right of refugees. I believe in standing up for refugees, but it doesn't mean that every country's border has to remain open if a global entity like the U.N. says, OK, you've got to do it, whether it's to the 7,000 people in Tijuana or any other group. FARAGE: Let's just remember what a refugee is. There is a 1951 definition of what a refugee is, and it's a person in fear of their life or their liberty as a result of their race, their religion, their views, their orientation. That does not mean that millions of people that have crossed the Mediterranean over the last couple of years, encouraged by Angela Merkel, were refugees. They weren't. They were economic migrants coming from all over the world, using the opportunity of the huge stupidity made by Angela Merkel. I genuinely believe, good evening, Laura, that Christians living in Iraq and countries like that who have literally got nowhere to go, they qualify as genuine refugees. But you cannot open the door to mass millions and suddenly pretend that's OK. And this is exactly what the U.N. are trying to do next week. They're trying to bail out Angela Merkel and the other politicians who have made these huge mistakes. And I would have thought what Mrs. Merkel ought to do, rather than defending her judgment, is to apologize to millions of German people for fundamentally changing the nature of a culture of the towns and cities in which people live without ever asking the people. INGRAHAM: Sweden is seeing its populist movement. We saw the results of last election. We see it happening in Andalusia in Spain. Macron, he is in some really hot political water. Obviously, Brexit. Things are changing. And the elites don't get the message. But Nigel, thank you for being up with us late. FARAGE: Thank you. INGRAHAM: Really important topic, and I really appreciate it. Thanks so much. And my friends, it's often kind of hard to understand just why China is such a threat to you, the American people, the American worker, American factories, real jobs. Our next guest is going to show you what happens when China tries to destroy an American manufacturing base. One company that's fought against China and won. He's going to tell us why this is so important. The man fighting back will explain, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Today I'm directing the United States trade representative to examine China's policies, practices, and actions with regard to the forced transfers of American technology and the theft of American intellectual property. As president of the United States, it's my duty and responsibility to protect the American workers' technology and industry from unfair and abusive actions. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That event, President Trump, was attended by my next guest, Cambria CEO Marty Davis. His company was the target of a Chinese effort that would have destroyed, potentially, his company, and that is until he and the White House with its own policies and its focus fought back. Marty is going to join us in just a moment. But first, Trace Gallagher is live now in our west coast newsroom with the back story on this battle. Trace? TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Laura, as the U.S.'s largest producer of quartz countertops, backsplashes, and floor tiles, Minnesota's Cambria company makes it their business to keep an eye on foreign competition. For example, in 2010 the company said China exported $5 million of quartz into the U.S. Last year that number jumped to more than $450 million. And for the first nine months of this year the total bounced up again to $526 million. But the quartz wasn't just being imported. It was being illegally dumped in the U.S., meaning China was subsidizing it so it could be sold in this country well below cost. The goal of course is to undercut the competition and control the market. Cambria estimates that last year alone China displaced $1.2 billion of U.S. quartz. And adding insult to injury, China was also slapping a 40 percent tariff on quartz being imported to their country. Last April, Cambria petitioned the U.S. Commerce Department and the International Trade Commission to intervene, writing, quote, "Fair trade and free-trade are inseparable paradigms. You simply cannot have one without the other. We believe strongly in free trade -- to protect it, we must demand fair trade." And sure enough, subsequent investigations have found that China was indeed dumping underpriced quartz into the United States. So in September the Commerce Department increased tariffs on select Chinese quartz to five times the previous number, and bumped up the tariffs once again in November. Clearly the companies reselling the cut-rate Chinese quartz were hoping to keep the goods flowing. Now it appears they too will have to make a few adjustments. Laura? INGRAHAM: Trace, thanks so much. And Marty Davis, CEO of Cambria is here. Marty, this is a wild story. You started this company when? MARTY DAVIS, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF CAMBRIA: In 2001, Laura. INGRAHAM: In 2001, and you saw a market. And you live in Minnesota. Your family has done business in Minnesota, and you want to employ Minnesota employees. What happens years later with China's involvement? DAVIS: We saw an opportunity. We started the company, we founded the company, myself and Jim Ward, our finance manager, were the original employees. Today we have nearly 2,000. We went through a lot of struggles to build the business, as you would imagine. By 2010 or 11 after the meltdown of 2008, we got back on our feet, and the company was starting to flourish as was the industry. And we developed a lot of technology, invested heavily in innovations, did a lot of work around productivity, and really the business started to skyrocket. And about that time, 2013, 2014, the Chinese producers from China started to dump product into the United States. INGRAHAM: What does that mean, dump product? For people who are watching. DAVIS: They're subsidized by their government. The People's Republic of China is not a friendly participant in a free-enterprise economy in America. They subsidize their companies. They run their banks. They're state-owned. And they're going after American manufacturing. INGRAHAM: Are you afraid of competition? That's what the free-traders would say. Marty, are you afraid of competing with China? Can't you beat China, Marty? What's the problem? DAVIS: We are free traders, and you have to have fair trade to have free trade and a level playing field. I think the president understands that and does his team. We like competition. Competition helped us develop our technologies a lot better. We have tremendous competition in the industry from other domestic producers, and it's been good for the industry and for the business. It's not competition. This argument by some of the politicians about free trade, they don't understand what free trade is. They should get out in the market and run a manufacturing facility and have your manufacturing worker have to compete with the Chinese government instead of a Chinese manufacturing worker. There is no competition there. INGRAHAM: Tell me about the average employee you have. DAVIS: And the business fails. INGRAHAM: The people in your firm, tell me about them. What are they like? DAVIS: The people that helped us build the company start from all different kinds. The graduate students and undergrads and hardworking, unskilled labor that come out of high school and go to work in a manufacturing facility. And they work hard. They're innovative. They're productive. They're focused and they're diligent in their work. They're amazing, and they'll compete with anybody in the world. But you cannot compete with a rogue party dictatorship like China who has targeted this amazing economy in America as their target to, I say heist our manufacturing platforms and move them to China. INGRAHAM: Now, tell me about the president's approach. And I want to play a soundbite for you first. This is from Abby Phillip, she's a CNN reporter, and made this point about the president's use of tariffs, Marty. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ABBY PHILLIP, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The president decided to use tariffs, which is a pretty archaic tool to get China to the table. And maybe they have gotten them to the table, but they have not been making a lot of progress. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Archaic tool. DAVIS: Yes, first of all, a lot of our politicians, and many of them Republicans don't understand the use of the word "tariff" or what it really means. Tariff is a trade-enforcement tool in many instances and most. That's what the president and his excellent team, Lighthizer, Wilbur Ross, and Peter Navarro and others that are over there, they are extraordinary leaders in this part of our economy, they understand that it's a trade- enforcement tool to ensure that trade law that is violated is dealt with. And these conditions -- they're violating existing U.S. trade law. We didn't go and ask for new law. We asked the United States government, trade and commerce, to -- we petitioned them to go after China and investigate whether they are violating U.S. trade law. INGRAHAM: And they found that, indeed, they were. They went from $5 million worth of quartz material, that raw material to make the counter, to what? DAVIS: Yes, $5 million imported in 2010 to roughly $570 million in 2017. And if you look at their economics -- INGRAHAM: It's $800 million. That's the projection for this year will be $800 million. That's not dumping -- if you don't see those figures and you don't think that's dumping a cheap product -- DAVIS: Laura, there's a couple of key points. If you look at what they displaced in our market prices, it's over $1 billion, which is one-sixtieth of the deficit. In addition to that, the Chinese product in some cases -- this is amazing to anybody that's manufactured in the marketplace -- their prices were below our raw-material costs. INGRAHAM: That is the classic dumping case. If you dump it under cost then there is no competition. DAVIS: That's right. INGRAHAM: The people who you employ, they're mothers, they're fathers, they're high school graduates, people who graduated from college, engineers and so forth. What do these jobs mean for them? DAVIS: Obviously, they're a great part of the company. They are the company. I would tell you that their dedication to our business is why it exists. We should have invested another $150 million in property and equipment we should have added 350 employees to our company. In 16 we shut that down as a result of this dumping. INGRAHAM: Because of China's cheating. DAVIS: That's a fact. INGRAHAM: You were able to fight China here. A lot of companies can't. Marty Davis, thank you for doing that, and thank you for having an open mind politically. This is not politics. This is about the country and manufacturing. DAVIS: This is a policy issue, not a political issue. And I don't understand why it's not a policy issue for the entire country. It's not political. INGRAHAM: Marty Davis, thank you so much for joining us, really appreciate it. And coming up next, the Last Bite, on an unexpected champion straight ahead. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. Remember the name Jalen Hurtx, so humble, so talented? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JALEN HURTS: None of this has been easy. Since the championship game it hasn't been easy. But I think it shows true character and true heart, trying to fight to the finish. But people have doubted me. People have said I should leave. People said I should have left right after the game. I am blessed enough to be graduating on the 15th. Not many people realize how important that is for me. So I don't think transferring was everything, you know. And I'm blessed to be here. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Jalen Hurts comes from behind for Alabama winning the SEC championship when two of the quarterback got hurt. Congratulations, Jalen and all of the players at Alabama and all the final four for going into the national championship. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team, take it from here. Load-Date: December 4, 2018 End of Document Most Of The Media Align With Democrats; White House Is Such A Leaky Place; Former EPA Chief Scott Pruitt Was Given Questions In Advance In TV Interviews; Joe Scarborough And Mika Brzezinski Tie The Knot Fox News Network MEDIA BUZZ 11:00 AM EST December 2, 2018 Sunday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7677 words Byline: Howard Kurtz, Gillian Turner, Jessica Tarlov, David Bossie Guests: Corey Lewandowski, Emily Jashinsky Body HOWARD KURTZ, FOX NEWS HOST: On Buzz Media this Sunday, President Trump now calls the media America's greatest enemy. That according to interview with two of his closest outside advisers who have their own indictment of the press. Corey Lewandowski and David Bossie will be here. Media mania as Michael Cohen pleads guilty to lying to Congress over his role and planning of Trump Tower project in Moscow during the campaign. And the press calls him a threat to the president. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: He is a weal person and what he's trying to do is get a reduced sentence. So he's lying about a project that everybody knew about. CHRIS HAYES, HOST, MSNBC: The president of the United States has been lying to the American people for years now. Lying that he was ever doing any business with a foreign power which was at the same time committing criminal acts to help get him elected president. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Now, given Cohen's history of mistruths, let's put it that way, the question is, was he lying to Congress then or is he lying to Mueller now? SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: This deal, guess what, it never, ever, ever happened. The project never got off the ground. No Trump organization investments were ever made and today, the Trump organization has no buildings in Russia. You wouldn't know it if you're watching the mainstream media. CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: It was in the works at a time when the president said he had no business with Russia. No investments. Not doing the deal doesn't excuse the president from lying about trying to get a deal done. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Are the pundits siding with Michael ohen against his former boss? This as Paul Manafort and Julian Assange denounced the report of The Guardian about their supposedly secret meetings with WikiLeaks vowing to sue the paper. And the media say the president has signaled a possible pardon as Manafort's plea deal blows up, while The New York Times reveals his lawyer was secretly briefing the Trump team about his talks with prosecutors. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LAWRENCE O'DONNELL, HOST, MSNBC: There he is committing the crime of obstruction of justice in plain sight. He is willfully obstructing Robert Mueller's pursuit of justice in the Manafort case. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Robert Mueller's prosecutors are instead threatening elderly men with life in prison for petty crimes, crimes that have nothing to do with spying or Russia or anything else that threatens America. The whole thing is grotesque joke. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Trump telling The New York Post that a Manafort pardon isn't off the table. Is the media chatter justified? Plus, the legacy of George Herbert Walker Bush, a president whose reelection slogan has annoyed the media but in the end was celebrated by the media. I'm Howard Kurtz and this is Media Buzz. There is a lot to get to on the coverage of Michael Cohen's guilty plea, but I want to start with this question of media credibility. The Guardian story about Paul Manafort looks like a bombshell and it sure was treated that way on television. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: We begin with the new report that Paul Manafort, the president's former campaign chairman, paid secret visits, multiple ones, to Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy in London. This is according to The Guardian. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: If the story was true, it meant that Manafort met with Julian Assange as a Trump campaign official in 2016, months before WikiLeaks did that massive dump of Democratic e-mails hacked by Russian operatives. But this was followed by denials, Manafort claiming the story is totally false and deliberately libelous. Assange said the alleged meetings never happened. "Remember this day when The Guardian permitted a serial fabricator to totally destroy the paper's reputation." WikiLeaks says it is willing to bet The Guardian a million dollars and its editor's head that Manafort never met Assange. WikiLeaks now raising money online to sue the London paper. Joining us to analyze the coverage: Gillian Turner, Fox News correspondent and a former White House official in two administrations; Emily Jashinsky, culture editor at The Federalist; and Jessica Tarlov, senior editor at The Buzzle and a Fox News contributor. OK, Gillian, the part about the editor's head (ph) is creepy. GILLIAN TURNER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Yes. KURTZ: But I have a lot of respect for The Guardian which won a Pulitzer four years ago for reporting on leak on documents. But this story with the fierce denials seems a bit thin. TURNER: Even if The Guardian was "us weekly," I would still go with that reporting because your choices are in terms of believability and trust are between Paul Manafort, WikiLeaks and, you know, outlet three. No matter who outlet three is, I'm going with them. KURTZ: Manafort of course is an admitted liar. I doubt, Emily, we're going to see this million dollar bet by Julian Assange. Should the media have been more cautious about running with this, because if it's true, Julian says, we potentially devastating tying the Trump camp to WikiLeaks? But if it's true, I mean, you got all people involved saying absolutely it's not untrue. EMILY JASHINSKY, CULTURE EDITOR, THE FEDERALIST: Right. And to Julian's point, I think it's very fair. You know, Paul Manafort is not necessarily the most honest man in Washington. That being said, the intensity of their denials, I think, is well worth noting because this is something that if it is true, there should be video footage, there should be evidence of travel, there should be plenty of evidence that if you are doubling down this hard, you're going to look really dumb. And so there's reports that The Washing Post, The New York Times are trying to confirm The Guardian story. That did not happen. The Guardian later softened its story a little bit, things like -- KURTZ: Apparent. JASHINSKY: Apparent, yes. So, I think that the story didn't prove to be the bombshell that the media eagerly wanted it to be -- TURNER: I'm sorry to jump it. I just have to clarify before everybody kills me online. I'm not saying that I believe that Paul Manafort went into the embassy and met with -- what I am saying is that if my choices are between the three of them, I believe The Guardian has by the far the most credibility. KURTZ: In fairness, Jessica, somehow it was reported it was unconfirmed, that we couldn't confirm it. JESSICA TARLOV, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH, BUZZLE.COM: Right. KURTZ: But there is an assumption that Manafort was lying, except I still can't figure out how he could get three times into the Ecuadorian embassy without anybody knowing it. TARLOV: No, I lived in London for six years. I was on CCTV probably 23 hours of my day. If not on the news, there should be records of this. At the same time, The Guardian -- KURTZ: This is the surveillance -- TARLOV: The surveillance in London which they are famous for and have been fighting terrorism very effectively for years now. There should be records of it. But at the same time, The Guardian, as you pointed out, is an incredibly reputable outlet. They stand by their story. They softened it a bit. But they say that they do have sources on this. We see how it plays out. But I would say that the journalists who were reporting it were saying according to The Guardian. This wasn't, you know, CNN running with it and not, you know, saying this is who came up with it. So, I think it is fair certainly to bring up. And on the same week that we find out that Paul Manafort violated his plea deal, again, I'm going with Gillian here -- KURTZ: We'll come back to that. But let me turn to this incredible media mob scene in Manhattan. We put that up on the screen. Michael Cohen sort of came out of the blue, pleading guilty a second in a second case to lying to Congress. There we go. This was treated, Gillian, as a bombshell. Liberal pundits were saying, well, the president's former fixer has finally nailed him. This of course having to do with Cohen's role in pursuing Trump Tower fixer lied in pursuing the Trump Tower project in Moscow. And conservatives are just following the president's lead and saying, hey, look, he has twice admitted lying in two different cases, how can you believe him? TURNER: Well, Cohen has managed to do something that really not many people have been able to do which is put President Trump on the defensive, think now the media smells blood in the water. And so they are all over this like white on rice. You know, it's like a very -- I would say compromised or vulnerable position for President Trump to be in. His defense now is actually Michael Cohen is a liar. It is very hard to backtrack going from somebody once called the brilliant, trustworthy, terrific guy to calling him a liar. KURTZ: Cohen's version, Emily, is that he has decided to stop lying when he decided to sort of come clean and cooperate with Robert Mueller. And the media -- is the media consensus accurate when -- if he's telling the truth, then we already knew that the Trump organization was pursuing a real estate project in Moscow through January 2016, just before the primaries and caucuses start. Now, it's supposedly through June of 2016 when he's winning the nomination. And that's not according to Michael Cohen. Then BuzzFeed has additional detail that Vladimir Putin was promised a -- had been promised a $50 million condo in the building to help attract the rich Russians. JASHINSKY: If that story is true -- the whole thing with this lying is important. I think it is important that -- and President Trump said this week, you know, it's not as though nobody knew about this still. So while he's calling Michael Cohen a liar, he is also saying this deal was pretty widely known at the time. If it goes into June and we have the president on the record saying X, Y, and Z, I have no deals in Russia, I'm not doing -- KURTZ: He said that many times. JASHINSKY: At the same time, it is not colluding with the Russian government. Both of those things can be true. KURTZ: I think the media consensus, Emily, to jump on you there, is that well, he now would have a motive to cooperate with Russia, if you wish, trying to do this deal. And yes, we knew about it. But the president says, look, I was a businessman, there was a good chance I wouldn't win, this was my business and so what's wrong with my pursuing such a project which by the way never went anyway? TARLOV: There are two issues at play. One, the lying, saying multiple times I have no business dealings in Russian whatsoever which we know is not true. We have pictures of the whole Trump family out there in Moscow. We are in there first. We know this deal was happening. If there was a $50 million apartment promise to Vladimir Putin, that is actually a violation of our laws. KURTZ: You say the deal was happening. I mean, it didn't happen. TARLOV: It was being pursued and you have Ivanka on e-mail talking about an architect. KURTZ: OK. TARLOV: I mean, everyone was involved in there and they were not supposed to. And for you to say it can be a business deal and nothing to do with the government, nothing in Russia gets done without Vladimir Putin on that level. So it's not like doing a deal in the America and the president of the United States not being involved. Vladimir Putin controls every single thing that happens there because of his dictatorship. So -- JASHINSKY: But that doesn't mean that we've had evidence, concrete evidence arise that the Trump campaign in and of itself was colluding with the Russian government. KURTZ: No, I don't think it was claiming that. TARLOV: Right. KURTZ: It is potentially a significant event but it comes down to this question of, do you believe Michael Cohen now? But not all the reporting on this has been 100 percent accurate. Emily, NPR is reporting that Donald Trump Jr., the president's son, contradicted Cohen by saying all the discussions about any deal ended in 2014. He was talking about a different deal. He is record as having discussed the fact that they were pursuing this Moscow project in 2015 and 2016. NPR kind of pulled it back, no apology, no full correction. We mischaracterized what Don Jr. said? JASHINSKY: Yes. The update that added to their story, I think, was ridiculous. I think the story should have been retracted. This was an incredible blunder because what they ended up updating the story to reflect was in the transcript that they were working off. It was readily available. You could read it. It didn't take, you know, Mollie Hemingway at The Federalist, it didn't take her that long to connect the dots here and get the story put together showing that the NPR's narrative here was easily disputed. TURNER: It shows shadow (ph) reporting and that the reporter who put this story together didn't actually bother to read through the whole transcript. KURTZ: Right, it was there in plain sight and Don Jr. has called this a desperate attempt to smear me, a desperate and sloppy attempt. I think -- I'm not saying it was a smear, but, man, it was a bad mistake. So, coming back to Paul Manafort, the president's former campaign chairman, there was a kind of a media explosion when Mueller said he has violated his plea deal, he is still lying to us and so forth. And then it really intensify when The New York Times reported Rudy Giuliani, that while he was supposedly cooperating with Mueller, his lawyer was briefing the Trump team's lawyers. Some in the press characterizing Manafort as being a double agent. TURNER: Yeah, it was this triangulated deal whereby somehow Paul Manafort's attorneys were hoping to ingratiate him, continue to ingratiate him with the Trump campaign, but also continue to lie to Mueller's team. It's sort of have your cake and eat it, too. That is just not really feasible. It also intensified the debate this week with the pardon issue. KURTZ: On that point, let me jump in -- TURNER: I don't mean to jump ahead. Sorry. KURTZ: No, it's fine. TURNER: I know you hate that. I'm sorry. KURTZ: You queued it up for me. So the president spoke to New York Post. He was asked about this by reporters. Let's hear what he had to say. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: The question was asked to me by The New York Post and I said, no, I have not offered any pardons. And I think they asked or whatever, would you? I said, I'm not taking anything off the table. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: So, the media interpretation is Trump is sending a very clear signal that he could potentially pardon Manafort and here are some of the anchors on other channels saying he is obstructing justice by even talking about this. TARLOV: Yeah. This goes back -- President Trump has been very nice to Paul Manafort publicly. Remember when he was on trial, he was tweeting this is terrible, he is a very fine man, very nice man, and the contrast between him and Michael Cohen start there. KURTZ: Because Cohen caved at the time Manafort did, yeah. TARLOV: It seems like he isn't. but Judge Napolitano last week was making the case that actually what Bob Mueller has done that is very smart is make Paul Manafort pardon proof by having federal crimes and state crimes, because President Trump can pardon him on federal level but can't on the state level. KURTZ: Regardless of whether that will happen, Emily, what do you make of the pardon coverage? Do you think it is a fair reading of the president's comments in interview or do you think it set off just a wild speculation? JASHINSKY: I think that the speculation about obstruction of justice is too far. I mean, I don't think that this is obstruction of justice. I think Jessica is right to point to the contrast between Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort and that this is a president who clearly values loyalty and to the extent that he's treating him differently, that's a real story. But to say that this is obstructive of justice, I think of course -- TURNER: I think the media though is saying it's unethical for the president to be commenting about a potential pardon, period. And that's a reasonable position to take. President Bush was bombarded with media questions in the last few years of his administration about pardoning Scooter Libby. KURTZ: Yeah. TURNER: He said I am not -- KURTZ: The presidential could have deflected the question, but let's just say that that is not his style. By the way, president taking a lot of flack for re-tweeting this picture. We put it up quickly. When do the trial for treason begin? Again, he was just re-tweeting. We see there Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, but also Rod Rosenstein, Bob Mueller. Kind of a unique thing for a president to do. (LAUGHTER) KURTZ: Ahead -- TARLOV: So kind, Howie. KURTZ: Corey Lewandowski and David Bossie when the media are in Donald Trump's words America's greatest enemy. When we come back, there has been an outpouring of journalistic praise since George H.W. Bush's passing, but the tone was very different when he was president. Brit Hume joins us, next. KURTZ: The paper today are filled with glowing tributes to George Herbert Walker Bush after his death at 94. Washington Post, public servant and statesman. New York Times using the same picture, a genial force in American politics. Some on the other special sections and articles, praise. But it wasn't always this way. Joining us now, Brit Hume, Fox's senior political analyst who covered him in the White House. Brit, what do you make of the contrast between just, you know, bipartisan praise across the media landscape, across the political landscape and that famous bumper sticker from 1992? We got a picture of then president holding it up. Annoy the media, re-elect Bush. BRIT HUME, FOX NEWS SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: The media were very hard on him when he was president, even as he was running for reelection. There was, Howard, a kind of an issue -- it was a certain reverse snobbism. George Bush was the blue blood aristocrat from a New England family who went into politics. He was looked at with certain condescension because he had been such a silent and loyal figure under Reagan and fill all these different jobs. He wasn't a terribly talented public speaker. KURTZ: Right. HUME: He was thought to be a man -- he paled in comparison to Reagan although there were times when he could be extremely articulate. But think of what he inherited, Howard. I mean, they said that he had no vision. But what was happening when he became president was, the vision of many who have come before him was coming to fruition. The collapse of the Soviet Union, the fall of the Berlin wall and the rest of it. His job was to manage that skillfully to make sure it didn't fall apart, which he did. KURTZ: Which history has recorded that he did. Now, when Vice President Bush was running, there was this 1998 interview with -- excuse me, 1988 interview that ended up being half (ph) the CBS News with Dan Rather. It got very testy over Iran-Contra. Take a quick look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GEORGE H.W. BUSH, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It's not fair to judge my whole career by a rehash on Iran. How would you like it if I judged your career by those seven minutes when you walked off the set in New York? Would you like that? (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: That was sort of a protest by Rather. So Bush could be feisty when he was provoked. HUME: Yeah, he was a competitor, Howie. He didn't have a mean bone in his body, but he was a competitor who within limits do what he had to do to deal with the task at hand. The task at hand for him of course is getting elected and assuring the Republican base that he had steel in him. Dan Rather was not a popular figure on the American right and when he took him on in a way he did in that interview, encouraged by our founder, Fox News Roger Aisles, the late Roger Aisles, it rallied people behind him. The people in the Republican base really liked that interview. KURTZ: Right. HUME: He had done well at it. KURTZ: Right. Roger Aisles then working for candidate George Bush. This also came up in this infamous Newsweek cover which was called -- the headline was, fighting the wimp factor. This covers a World War II hero and yet this was the meme that Newsweek immortalized. So he had a lot to overcome in terms of the media's perception. HUME: He did. And, Howard, you know, he was the youngest naval aviator ever when he enlisted as a young man prior to going to college which he could certainly have done. But he chose to enlist and he was shot down over the Pacific and rescued in the nick of time by an American submarine. That's not the behavior of a wimp. It persisted nonetheless. Even after he was out of office, 1995, Maureen Dowd writing in The New York Times, she never cared for Bush, described him as Bertie Wooster, the silly British aristocratic character of the comic novels by P.G. Wodehouse. That image of him persisted. This was after he had managed the collapse of the Soviet Union after he had mounted the coalition that won the Gulf War. He achieved quite a lot, but nonetheless it persisted. It's that kind of reverse snobbism about class that you see that permeates the media. Now, you see the media exemplifying it in somewhat different way towards Donald Trump. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: -- contrast and he's now a useful foil (ph). We have less than a minute, Brit. Since you covered that White House, what was it like to deal with George Bush personally? HUME: Well, he was -- he knew us all because he had been around forever, all of us who covered him at the time. He was exceedingly friendly to us as he was to everyone. He had a real blessing in a way because he has a forgiving spirit. And so he endured the slings and arrows from the media with only a handful exceptions. He was forgiving about it. He didn't stay mad at people for very long. And I think that helped him a lot. His press relations really weren't bad. His news conferences were fairly frequent and orderly. He basically did fine. I want to add one other thing, Howard. During the run-up to the Gulf War, he had a lot of meetings with the press, many of them impromptu. And he became in that moment, Howard, extraordinarily articulate and precise in his discourse. We had not seen that in him before. KURTZ: Right. HUME: It was a remarkable display of what he could do when he had to and he did that. And he was nice. KURTZ: That counts for a lot particularly in today's toxic politics, but we got to leave it there. HUME: It does. KURTZ: Brit, thanks so much. Great to see you. HUME: You bet. KURTZ: Ahead, Corey Lewandowski and Dave Bossie are openly attacking never Trump conservatives in the press in very personal terms. Up next, the media debate over the caravan changes dramatically after an attack on border patrol agent. KURTZ: The media consensus was that President Trump hugely hyped the migrant caravan in Mexico to rile up his base during the midterms. But last weekend, a number of migrants charged an entry point near San Diego and attacked border patrol agents with rocks, seriously injuring three of them. One of 40 migrants were arrested on the U.S. side. But much of the coverage focused on the agent's use of teargas to push the attackers back. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: If you caught any news about the border crisis in the last 24 hours, you have been subjected to a disgusting and blatant attempt at emotional manipulation. O'DONNELL: We know that the president thinks that using teargas on children looks bad. There is no reason to assume that Donald Trump actually believes that it is bad to use teargas on children. GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: I am ashamed this teargas choked me. We treat these people, these economic refugees as if they're zombies from "The Walking Dead." (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Gillian Turner, I was quite surprised to hear Lawrence O'Donnell say (INAUDIBLE) Donald Trump is fine with tear gassing women and children. But that Reuter's photo, if we can put it up, of the Honduran woman and her two daughters, even if they were, bystanders, you know, it went viral and it certainly gave plenty of fuel to the president's critics. TURNER: I mean, that looks -- the idea that his is near the American border is quite shocking, frankly. But I think the caravan issue at large is something the media continues to get wrong on all sides. It's been this fault line issue. People believe that it is either a national security threat of epic proportion or it's a humanitarian crisis. And nobody makes any room for anything in between or anything that accommodates both. It's very difficulty sometimes for I think the media to accept the idea that more than one reality or one truth can be evident at a time and that sometimes things are not so clear-cut. KURTZ: Right. Polarized coverage contributes to that. On that point, Emily Jashinsky, it is not wrong to say that President Trump heavily pushed the caravan and immigration in general as an issue to get his voters out during the midterms. That may be true. But doesn't this attack show that the media's dismissive approach that the caravan was nothing wasn't entirely right? JASHINSKY: Right. That narrative fell apart, I think, and we saw that in really upsetting way. I mean, those images were nauseating. They are obviously compelling. You cannot blame the press for disseminating them. It is something that we should all be aware. At the same time, there are several years over the course of the Obama administration where tear gas was used around 20 times. This has been happening at our border. People have thrown -- KURTZ: That didn't get mentioned much. JASHINSKY: No. And people were throwing rocks and bottles at the border before. This is something that has been happening for years. This was an obvious flareup. It was hard to watch, hard to look at. But the narrative that this caravan post no threat to the United States border would never arrive and if it did it would be very few people just did not come to pass and the media of course never reflected on that. KURTZ: Jessica Tarlov, some press accounts did make clear that border patrol agents were using the tear gas after they were attacked -- TARLOV: Attacked, yeah. KURTZ: -- by these rocks thrown by migrants. But others kind of fudge it almost as if to suggest they have no right to defend themselves. TARLOV: Yeah, absolutely. It's a very difficult position I think to be in when you have a certain point of view, and certainly, if your party's alignment and you have to go with that. I know that for myself as a liberal opposition voice, often surrounded by conservatives. But if I show any weakness in an argument I am making, then that gets seized upon. KURTZ: Right. TARLOV: And that's why I think that the Gang of Eight for instance and the Gang of Six had so much trouble getting their bills passed because the other sides, the partisans out there... KURTZ: Right. TARLOV: ... said we can't have any compromise here because that lets down our base that feels a certain way. KURTZ: Is that reflected in a polarized media, which either says a caravan is fearsome or the caravan is harmless? TARLOV: I think it's absolutely the case. You know, for a while, when they were arriving around Christmas time in December, I felt perfectly fine saying you guys are being crazy. It's a humanitarian crisis. They won't be here for months and this is an election issue. Then you see law enforcement being attacked by a small minority... KURTZ: Yeah. TARLOV: But you are forced to acknowledge it because no one should be getting rocks or bottles in their face for doing their job. But that doesn't change the fact that it is a humanitarian crisis. KURTZ: I'm glad we got some new insight -- brought new insight to the coverage. Gillian Turner, Emily Jashinsky, Jessica Tarlov... TARLOV: Thank you so much, Howie. KURTZ: Thanks very much for being with us this Sunday. Ahead on Media Buzz, CNN fires a contributor over a speech many view as calling for Israel's destruction. But first, Corey Lewandowski, there he is, and Dave Bossie on why they say most of the media is aligned with the Democrats. KURTZ: With the war between the president and the Special Counsel heating up, we turned now perhaps Donald Trump's most influential outside advisors. And they have a very harsh indictment of the media in their book. Joining us now from Manchester is Corey Lewandowski, Trump's former campaign manager and advisor to Vice-President Pence's PAC. And here in Washington, David Bossie, the president's former deputy campaign manager and a Fox News contributor. The book is Trump's Enemies: How The Deep State Is Undermining The Presidency. Corey, CNN's Jeff Toobin after the Michael Cohen plea and the Manafort business said on air, Donald Trump may not finish his term in office. Are the media impouncing (ph) on what Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort have done depicting kind of prosecutorial news tightening around the president's neck? COREY LEWANDOWSKI, DONALD TRUMP'S FORMER CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Howie, this is amazing. CNN does not have one on-air talent that could be considered a conservative. They have gone so far to the left that their only message now is to go after the president. What Michael Cohen has pled to was lying to Congress, which no one told him to do but himself. You know, CNN ran wall-to-wall coverage about a meeting that Paul Manafort supposedly took with Julian Assange, which we now we find out actually never happened. CNN, MSNBC, and the mainstream media has Trump derangement syndrome. KURTZ: Well, we don't know for sure the Assange meeting happened. But as we talked about earlier -- I'm not sure about this case. I know, Dave, you have very strong feelings on Michael Cohen's credibility. But, isn't it also true that the president, who you admire, hired Michael Cohen and hired Paul Manafort and hired Michael Flynn, and hired Rick Gates, all of now played guilty to lying and other crimes? DAVID BOSSIE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: But the crimes, Howie, have nothing to do with the president. KURTZ: I wasn't suggesting that. BOSSIE: No, no, no, I know that. But the CNNs and MSNBCs and the wall-to- wall Trump derangement syndrome reporters, they cover Washington, they cover this president, want to jumble it all up and make the narrative to the American people that these all have something to do with the Russia collusion investigation. They do not. This president has nothing to do with Paul Manafort prior to his campaign. The same thing -- look, Michael Cohen pled guilty to wire fraud and bank fraud related to a taxi company in New York City. KURTZ: Right. That's the first case. BOSSIE: Nothing to do -- but nothing to do with the president. Paul Manafort, wire fraud and hiding money overseas and lying to the IRS over business deals, you know, 10 years before the campaign. KURTZ: I get that much of the cases don't involve Trump or the Trump organization. But, Corey, in your book, you guys both sat for an interview with the president. And he said to you that fake news, which of course he has attacked, what he calls fake news, is the greatest enemy in this country. Greater than terrorists, greater than gang members? LEWANDOWSKI: Look, Howie, there is -- there is a cabal of the fake news. When I look at Jennifer Rubin in the Washington Post, who supposedly claims to be a conservative, which is such a farce, she is the last thing from a conservative. Bill Kristol, who is supposed to be a conservative, you know, attacks this president because he is like a delivering method. KURTZ: OK. I'm going to come -- I'm going to come back to that. But address the greatest enemy part because that's a pretty serious charge. LEWANDOWSKI: Look, it's -- Howie, Howie, these people have all gotten together to attack this president for nothing. The fake news has stirred up the American people. And what this president has done, as he has pointed out how fake their stories are, the media members don't want to report the news, they want to be the news. We have seen that with Jim Acosta. And there was never an apology. Jim Acosta went on TV and said this caravan was never coming. They're going to be hundreds of miles away. Go ask the people on the border, who have rocks thrown at them, if the caravan is there. These guys are the fake news and this president has done a good service by calling them out. KURTZ: Dave, the president also told you guys it's hard to defend yourself, except on social media, of what is an overwhelmingly negative amount of coverage. He is the biggest bullhorn in the world. So it shouldn't be that hard for him to defend himself. BOSSIE: And he does it every day. And he needs to do it. And what happens is this media narrative by the left-wing media in this country, this vast left-wing conspiracy that is out to destroy this president. They tried to defeat him during the campaign, they tried to legitimize him during the transition. And now, they are trying to run him out of town you know through impeachment. It's going to be a very tough next two years, because the American people instead of being able to get things done for the American people, the president and the White House is going to be under siege by this left-wing Congress. KURTZ: Well, for the record, we haven't gotten to impeachment yet, if we ever do. But, Corey, I have read something you and Bossie wrote on your own. The press trades on the emotions of their audience. The more they stir them up, the more they get them to buy their newspapers, tune into their channels, or click on their website. And that's true. It's true on both left and the right in my view. But doesn't the president, like many other politicians, also play on the emotions of the voters? Why single the press out? LEWANDOWSKI: Because the press is in this to obviously make money. And what they want to do is the more salacious the story, the more the press talks about it. Look, Howie, you talked about it earlier on your show today. The Guardian story, it became on for 24 or 48 hours, about whether Paul Manafort even went to London to do a meeting. Nobody did any homework on this. Look, Paul is a very bad guy. He has spent a lot of time in jail for a lot of crimes that he committed that had nothing to do with the campaign. But somebody, media outlets should have verified the story before they just ran with the Guardian story, because they want click bait. And that's what happens. So the president has to use his megaphone to push back on these fake stories or else, the American people will think it is just true. BOSSIE: And by the way, this story is now days old. Nobody in the mainstream media, the garbage that they continue to put out there on this Julian Assange meeting... KURTZ: It's hard to disprove a story, this kind of thing. BOSSIE: No, no, no, no. Howie, Howie, London has an incredible security, security cameras. The embassy where this meeting was supposed to happen, security cameras, the media stakes this out all the time. KURTZ: All right. Fair point. Fair point. BOSSIE: There would be one piece -- one shred of evidence if this meeting actually happened and not one person, after nearly a week, has been able to say that it happened. KURTZ: All right. Quick question for you, David, before we go to a break and then we'll continue. You guys write that the media are a little more than the public relations arm of the Democratic Party. BOSSIE: That's right. KURTZ: I get that there is bias. I get that there is unfairness. I get that there are stories that are wrong. But P.R. for the Democrats? BOSSIE: Howie, this -- the New York Times, the CNN, MSNBC, they are Super PACs for the Democratic Party. KURTZ: New York Times broke the Hillary Clinton email story. That doesn't sound like a Super PAC to me. BOSSIE: No, no, no, no. Howie, look, let's be real. They have to write stories and they do write stories that are factually based. But if you look at the totality of their coverage, they have been so predominantly negative, 90 percent of the coverage in the New York Times and the Washington Post are negative. Those stories are negative. And that is what this president has been up against since the first day of his campaign. KURTZ: You guys have a lot to say, so let's continue the conversation after the break. And later, the text messages revealing the story that media mogul Les Moonves didn't want told, a cover-up of alleged sexual misconduct with an actress 23 years later. KURTZ: Corey Lewandowski and Dave Bossie on their new book, Trump's Enemies. And, Corey, among those enemies, according to you is White House leakers, people around the president who dump out stuff, making him or their colleagues look bad. You guys are right. They get seduced by the press, indignated (ph) with calls, they're stars for the first time in their lives. Is that why the White House is such a leaky place? LEWANDOWSKI: Well, I think that's part of it. And look, these people who are nobody before coming to the Trump administration, all of a sudden get courted by the media, tell them that they want to have them on TV, they become stars. And all of sudden, they think they are the show. And they are not. And look, what we've seen in what Bob Woodward's book pointed out was Rob Porter, Gary Cohn, others were literally taking documents off the president's desk. Those are enemies, not just of the president, but of the American people, because he is stopping his agenda from going forward. KURTZ: And, Dave, you picking up the president say the fake news. You say that fake news refuses to report that the stock market is booming under Trump or about record-low unemployment numbers. Now, leaving aside the recent downturn of the market, there have been plenty of coverage about the stock market going way up. I think what you are really arguing is that you don't think Donald Trump gets enough credit. Certainly... BOSSIE: You look at his list of accomplishments over the last two years of his presidency, it has been unbelievable. Whether it is on economic policy, domestic policy, or foreign policy... KURTZ: This is usually reported. BOSSIE: Look, it's not an overstatement. This president does not get the credit that he deserves. The mainstream media's narrative is all about this fake Russian collusion story. They eat up column inches to sell newspapers and get clicks. And they don't talk about the good things that this president does on a daily basis for all Americans. When the economy goes up, that helps all Americans. When we are safer at home and abroad, that helps all Americans, and they play divisive politics every single day. KURTZ: Corey, let me come back to something you alluded to in an earlier segment. And this is from your book, turncoat Republicans and former Republicans have flooded our airwaves with hatred for President Trump. And you go through the list, Bill Kristol, jealous angry clown, political activist, Jennifer Rubin you mentioned, George Will, Bret Stephens of the New York Times, Nicole Wallace desperately wants to be loved by the Trump- hating viewers at MSNBC. Why can't you not just say they are Republicans or ex-Republicans who disagree with Trump, as opposed to disparaging them in such a harsh fashion? LEWANDOWSKI: Because they have such a hatred for the president that they can't see past that's hatred. Look, these were supposed to be the individuals who wanted to have a conservative president to come here. And calling Jennifer Rubin a conservative columnist or blogger for the Washington Post is like calling Ana Navarro a conservative. It is such a scam. These people should be called out for what they are, which are hypocrites. Donald Trump has been the most of conservative president since Ronald Reagan or even before. When you look at the non-partisan Heritage Foundation, who says what he has been to accomplish in the first two years puts him on par ahead of Ronald Reagan. He should be praised by the conservatives. But Bill Kristol, Jennifer Rubin, you know, all these guys, they are clowns. And they are supposed to be conservatives. But they're using their hatred of Donald Trump to further their own agenda and to have their own political philosophy put out front... KURTZ: But would they... LEWANDOWSKI: ... which is they hate Trump. KURTZ: But would -- they would say, David Bossie, is that they are sticking to their principles as conservatives that Donald Trump has a different view of conservatism. BOSSIE: Yeah. KURTZ: And I'm just struck by the way in which not that you named them, not just you disagree with them, not that you criticize them, but the way that you just personally disparage them. BOSSIE: Yeah. We stand by every work. Look, these people, the Jennifer Rubins and the Bill -- I have known Bill Kristol a long time. I respect him. KURTZ: The guy worked for Dan Quayle. BOSSIE: I look at him as a mentor. But, as a conservative myself, I fundamentally -- I don't understand how you look at the Supreme Court, the federal judiciary, deregulation, tax cuts, you look at the policy agenda across the board of this president, if his name was Bill Smith and the president talks about it in his interview with us that's in this book -- if his name was Bill Smith, they would be fawning on him. But they hate Donald Trump. And they put their hatred against -- above the ability for them to give him credit for even the smallest thing. They hate his style and they can't get over that style to get to the politics or to the conservative agenda that he has been so successful in determining for the American people. KURTZ: All right. Next time, maybe both of you would tell us what you really think. Good discussion. Dave Bossie, Corey Lewandowski, good to see you both. LEWANDOWSKI: Thanks, Howie. BOSSIE: Thank you. KURTZ: Still to come, disciplinary action at Fox News, firing at CNN, and a chilling expose about Les Moonves and the actress who says he ruined her career. KURTZ: During some appearances on Fox & Friends, former EPA chief Scott Pruitt was given the questions in advance and his team sometimes suggested the topics, according to emails provided to the Daily Beast. In one instance, a year and a half ago, a producer asked for talking points on the three top EPA priorities that Pruitt likes to discuss, and even provided the introductory script for approval. Perfect, the Pruitt aide replied. Here's part of that interview. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEVE DOOCY, FOX & FRIENDS CO-HOST: The press made President Obama out to be the environmental savior. And yet, when you look at the number of toxic dumps left on your plate, it's a big number. SCOTT PRUITT, FORMER EPA ADMINISTRATOR: Absolutely. In fact, as you have said, these sites across the country have some of the, you know, uranium and lead, posing great risk to the citizens on those areas. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Fox News says it has disciplined the staffers involved, but is not disclosing what action was taken. A network spokesperson said this is not standard practice whatsoever and the matter is being addressed internally with those involved. Look, it's not unusual for television producers to respond to pitches or to provide topic areas to make sure a guest is prepared to respond, but providing questions and scripts in advance is journalistic breach and should be, absolutely, out of bounds. By the way, it was also last year that Fox's Ed Henry grilled Pruitt on some of the financial problems that later led to his ouster. CNN has fired long-time contributor Marc Lamont Hill for a U.N. speech in which he accused Israel of ethnic cleansing and called for a dramatic change in the region. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARC LAMONT HILL, FORMER CNN CONTRIBUTOR: And that is a free Palestine, from the river to the sea. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: That phrase from the river to the sea echoes the language of such a vowed enemy as Hamas and essentially calls for the destruction of Israel. Now, Hill says he favors a boycott of Israel, but not violence against the Jewish state. Now, commentators have the right to express their opinions, but that incendiary phrase, from the river to the sea, caused him his cable news contract. A gripping New York Times investigation has documented how Les Moonves already ousted as CBS Chairman over multiple accusations of sexual misconduct, allegedly assaulted a young actress named Bobbie Phillips more than two decades ago. And then, tried to buy her silence this year by arranging a bit part or two of CBS shows, one them paying just $1500. Phillips said he ruined her career by promising her movie parts, this is back in 1995, and then forcing her to briefly perform oral sex. Moonves says it was consensual. But the Times shows through interviews and lots of text messages that Moonves was so desperate while fighting for his job, again this year, that he told his agent, if Bobbie talks, I'm finished. The episode prompted CBS board members to finally turn on him. And I can't see how they can now possibly pay him $120 million in severance. Finally, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski, making some news of their own. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WILLIE GEIST, MORNING JOE CO-HOST: Joe and Mika are off today and this week. Why you asked? They had a very busy weekend. Joe and Mika got married. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: The MSNBC hosts tied the knot, congratulations at the National Archives presided over by Democratic Congressman Elijah Cummings. It was all very quiet and private, except for the exclusive Vanity Fair interviews and photos. That's it for this edition of Media Buzz. I'm Howard Kurtz. I'm glad we had a chance to pay tribute to George H. W. Bush who was just incredibly gracious in office. To contrast that with history and the media now recognizing what George 41 did. Hey, check out my new Podcast, Media Buzz Meter. We kick around the day's most important or fascinating stories. And you can subscribe at Apply iTunes or Google Play or FoxNewsPodcast.com. Let's continue the dialogue on Twitter @HowardKurtz. And check out our Facebook page. We post a lot of original content there, videos and my daily columns. We ran out of time here. Folks, we're back here next Sunday morning, 11:00 Eastern. We'll see you all then with the latest buzz. Load-Date: December 3, 2018 End of Document Trump Versus The Left-Wing Resistance; Immigration Problem Continues At The Border Where Border Patrol Agents Are Being Pelted With Rocks, Bottles, Projectiles; When Agents Responded With Tear Gas To Violent Illegal Immigrants, The Media And The Democrats Went Crazy On It And Forgot That The Same Tactics Were Used By The Obama Administration; "The Daily Caller" Reported That The FBI Has Raided The Home Of A Whistleblower Who Testified And Actually Gave Documents Pertaining To The Clinton Foundation And Uranium One To A Government Watchdog; A Report Says That Google Employees Allegedly Debating Burying Conservative Media In The Search Results In The Lead Up To The Election In 2016 Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 30, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 6999 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Newt Gingrich, Tammy Bruce, Mike Huckabee Guests: John Solomon, Dennis Prager, Peter Hasson Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: And welcome to the special edition of HANNITY: Trump Versus the Left-Wing Resistance. Five hundred and sixty-two days, over $20 million, your money, zero evidence of Trump-Russia collusion, and tonight, for the hour, we're going to show you the real story behind the Mueller witch hunt and why it's a witch hunt, perjury traps, testi-lie, legal bribery in America. Oh, tell us this and you get a get-out-of-jail-free card. A political persecution led by a team of big-time Democratic donors and even Hillary supporters and lawyers and Trump-hating sycophants. We have a two-tiered justice system. It should scare every American regardless of where you stand in the political spectrum. This is the biggest abuse of power, corruption scandal we have had in our lifetime and it continues to unfold. And breaking tonight, a damning new report from "The Hill's" John Solomon, it is now showing how six different members of the intel community literally tried to set up the Trump campaign and Trump campaign officials during the 2016 election. Very important story you will only hear tonight on HANNITY. And, of course, in the mainstream media, they're just too busy worshiping at the altar of all things Robert Mueller, celebrating any and everything that contains Russia, Russia, Russia, even if it's insignificant. And later in the show, we'll take on Google and other big tech companies who systemically discriminating against conservative and freedom of speech. All right. Buckle up, time for our special Friday opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. For months, you have heard me call right here on this program the Mueller investigation a witch hunt. You've heard the president say it. You've heard me say it's the biggest abuse of power corruption scandal in modern American history. Tonight, we are going to break down the scandal item by item, step-by-step, based on three serious issues -- the abusively biased partisan makeup of the political investigation, the focus of the investigation on a single man. We don't have equal justice under the law, rather than an actual crime. And third, what is a rampant double standard present in our justice system today. All right. We get started. On May 17th 2017, Robert Mueller was tasked with investigating fears that the country of Russia interfered with our presidential election the year before. Now, given this was a hotly contested subject, well, you would think it would obviously be a politically charged issue. You would expect Robert Mueller probably to be careful to appoint a team of nonpartisan investigators that didn't have any conflicts of interest. Sadly, the exact opposite happened. His first lead investigator, the now fired Peter Strzok, the same guy that said that Hillary Clinton should win this election 100 million to zero. By the way, the same guy that said, oh, all sorts of things about Donald Trump and talked about an insurance policy just in case he did win. Now his lead prosecutor, meaning Mueller's Andrew Weissmann, the guy "The New York Times" called Mueller's pit bull, actually attended Hillary Clinton's election night party -- oh, he is objective. Weissmann also praised Acting Attorney General Sally Yates when she refused to follow orders from her boss, the president of the United States. Mueller also appointed a woman, her named is Jeannie Rhee. She previously served as an attorney for Hillary Clinton, that's right, at the Clinton Foundation. Now, this looks really, really bad and it's only the tip of the iceberg because Mueller literally filled his team of so- called objective investigators with major Democratic donors, no Republicans, people who donated tens of thousands of dollars to the Clintons, the Obamas and others. Fourteen of the 17 special counsel prosecutors, registered Democrats, zero Republicans. And at this point, Robert Mueller might as well have hired Maxine Waters and Elizabeth Warren. He's not even trying to appear fair and it's no wonder that from the very beginning this investigation centered around one man and one man only and that's your president, Donald Trump. It's the opposite of how our justice system is supposed to work, which brings us to part two of our witch hunt analysis. Remember the old Soviet Union, they investigated people and then they found crimes. In America, we are supposed to investigate crimes and find the perpetrators and sadly, here we are investigating a man, not a crime. Look at Michael Flynn, look at Papadopoulos, look at Manafort, Stone, Jerome Corsi, they share only one thing in common, connections to Donald Trump. Flynn, Papadopoulos pled guilty to process crimes caused by the investigation itself. And in the case of Flynn, the FBI didn't even think he was lying but he ran out of money and had to sell his house and I'm pretty certain that his son was threatened to be investigated if he didn't sign the papers. And for example, Manafort's crimes, nothing to do with Russia, nothing to do with collusion. You have issues that were previously resolved that date back to 2007. Loan applications and taxes and no matter what Mueller throws at these men, it doesn't matter. Hours of interrogations, threats, life in prison -- well, he's always offering to get out of jail free card if they say what Mueller and his team want them to say. By the way, with no evidence whatsoever needed of any Trump-Russia collision, nothing has been uncovered, zero. Even CNN's fake news fake Jake Tapper admitted. There's literally no crime here. You know why? Because there isn't. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAKE TAPPER, CNN HOST: So, this is -- look, this is clearly not welcome news for the president. I don't want to pretend that it is. But once again, I looked at these documents and I don't see any evidence of conspiracy between members of the Trump team and members of the Russian government to interfere in the election. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No conspiracy, no collusion and no crime. What we have though is a political persecution. By the way, this started way before Mueller. Now, breaking tonight, "The Hill's" John Solomon is reporting during the presidential election, Donald Trump's allies were constantly targeted by our own intelligence apparatus. At least, six people he is reporting tonight with long- established ties to the FBI or U.S. western intelligence agencies made entrees to key figures in the Trump business organization, or his presidential campaign. This all happening between March and October, 2016, in the lead up to the election. And Solomon continues: Nearly all of the contacts involve the same overture, a discussion about possible dirt, stolen emails and harmful to Hillary Clinton, or unsolicited business in London or Moscow. And get this, according to the report -- these contacts were likely efforts by Obama's DOJ. Why? To bolster claims made in Hillary Clinton's bought and paid for phony lies dossier, the lying dossier put together by Christopher Steele. He doesn't even stand by his own dossier. He can't corroborate anything in it or verify anything in it. This is huge news because they are plotting, planning and scheming and that brings us to the third issue on our analysis, the disgusting, despicable, two-tiered system of justice. That shouldn't be in the United States of America because in 2016, the Clinton campaign funneled millions and millions of dollars through a law firm, Perkins Coie, in order to hire an op research firm, in order to hire an ex-foreign spy that had deep Russian connections, to dig up dirt on Donald Trump. That's by Christopher Steele puts together wholly uncorroborated, unverified dossier full of Russian lies, probably straight from the Kremlin. And instead of investigating the obvious collusion, Obama's DOJ, Comey's FBI, they use that dirty campaign op research. They never verified, they never corroborated, as the very basis to open an investigation into Donald Trump. And by the way, get deep into the Trump campaign by committing fraud multiple times on the FISA court, to get warrants against the Trump campaign associate, that's Carter Page. They use that in they coordinated leak strategy and they talked about it. Why would they have a leak strategy? To manipulate the American voters. And today is a foundation of what is Robert Mueller's witch hunt. It's gross, despicable double standard, it doesn't end there. Remember Uranium One. Let's talk about this, do we really care about Russian interference in America? Hillary Clinton, secretary of state? One of nine people, including Eric Holder signing off on sending 20 percent of our uranium which is the foundational material for nuclear weapons to the hostile regime of Russia, the hostile actor Vladimir Putin? In 2015, "The New York Times" reported, quote, shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, oh, the former President Bill Clinton received $5,000 in Russia for a speech from a Russian investment bank. Yes, the same bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock. And it gets even more sketchy. During the transfer of Uranium One to Russia, the Clinton Foundation, they received millions and millions of dollars from the very people involved in the deal. And, by the way, in the lead up to this, the FBI director at the time was Robert Mueller, we had an FBI informant inside of Putin's network right here in America and he was telling the FBI about what he was witnessing. Serious, serious issues. Here's what he told me when we had the opportunity to talk to this informant. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: At some point, you became aware that Russia wanted to get a foothold in the uranium industry and that they were looking at this conglomeration that we now know as Uranium One, and that deal was going to give them that foothold if, in fact, it was approved by nine government agencies. FBI INFORMANT: Yes, sir. There was no question about it. HANNITY: Yes. And the FBI knew that? FBI INFORMANT: The bureau knew it. The Uranium One position was a part of a long-term strategy, a four tier strategy by the Russians. HANNITY: They are telling you that they had confidence that Clinton would sign off on this deal? FBI INFORMANT: Absolute confidence. HANNITY: Did they have confidence that Obama would sign off on this deal? FBI INFORMANT: They were quite sure that Obama and the administration who they had deemed and labeled as being very weak multiple times would respond favorably. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So before they approved it, that informant described issues involving bribery, extortion, kickbacks, money laundering, Putin's network inside of America, to get a foothold in our uranium industry, the foundational material for nuclear weapons. By the way, Bob Mueller happened to be the FBI director at the time. He was the one being informed. Why would they ever approve any such deal like that? So, is Robert Mueller's band of Democratic donors, are they investigating that CD link between the Clintons and Russia? And, by the way, of course not. What about Mueller? He was the director. That was his guy that infiltrated Putin's network in the United States. Maybe he could be investigated. Has to do with Russia and nuclear materials, why did they ever let that happen? That's because we now live in a two-tier justice system. One where President Trump and anyone around him are aggressively pursued for months on end by a team of Democrats masquerading as investigators. The Clintons, any other Democrat, they get away scot-free. Every American should be very concerned and worried about what is a completely unfair precedent in this country. And sadly, most of the mainstream media, they are so left-wing in their partisanship, so filled with anti-Trump rage every second, minute, hour of every day, that they are literally cheering Mueller every single move he makes with giddy anticipation and excitement, trembling with joy and happiness, sort of like Chris Matthews getting a thrill up his leg watching Obama. Every time they hear the word Russia, Russia, Russia. Even if Mueller is just indicting intelligence officials from Russia that will never be brought to the U.S. to be put on trial ever, and just to mention the name. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This guilty plea yesterday was an early Christmas present from all the congressional committees that are investigating the Russia case. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am still of the mind that this president may not serve out his term. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: From our reporting, one thing is clear. He's been knocked off balance here completely. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The question comes, when do Republicans start to turn on Trump? Because that's the only thing that's going to get Trump out of office. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If this were a mafia investigation, Trump could be indicted under RICO, no question about it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I spoke with the source who is very close to Michael Cohen who said to me today, in no uncertain terms, Michael has the goods. He has extremely valuable information. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have as somebody who is in Trump's innermost circle for so long, Chris, who is known as his fixer, who knows where the bodies are buried. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is not the way a high elected official is supposed to talk. It's the way guys talk to me when they are wearing orange jumpsuits and explaining why they got done wrong. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: NPR also today trying to link Donald Trump Jr. to the Cohen revelations from yesterday, all but calling him a liar, but yes, hours later, NPR was forced to backtrack in an editor's note, writing they mischaracterize Don Jr.'s statement. These people are not looking out for you, the American people. They are looking ahead to the 2020 election. They are rooting for the president to be delegitimized, to fail, no matter the consequences, no matter the upset to the entire country -- not helping the American people in any way. Joining us now, FOX News contributor Sara Carter who, by the way, on hannity.com, brand-new opioid documentary. It is really well done. My radio producer Linda McLaughlin and her, it's so well done. I haven't had a chance to watch it. Congratulations. And also from "The Hill", John Solomon. John, let's start with your breaking report. So, we have all these entrees into all these Trump people, just before the election. It sounds like the whole thing was thought out, planned out and set up. Explain. JOHN SOLOMON, THE HILL: Yes, and, you know, the origin of this story, Sean, is last Tuesday when I was on your show, you had Congressman Nunes on just before and I was listening, he said something I had not heard in all the months I've been working on the case. He said beyond the Steele dossier, there was a very troubling effort to come up with other evidence that would corroborate the Steele dossier that was a suspect and it was just as bad evidence and may have also included exculpatory information that had been hidden. So, I went back and started digging, and this is what I found -- six different people volunteer, inject themselves into the Trump organization between March and October that have direct ties to the FBI or U.S. intelligence. Two Russians inject themselves into operations during that time, both are here in only on a U.S. Justice Department parole visa. That's another fact. Two more Western intelligence or Western diplomat intersect or start relationships with key people in the Trump Organization, and all have the same overture. Either I got dirt on Hillary Clinton or I got a nice deal for you, would you like to talk to me? It looks like a targeted operation to start a probe, whether there was something going on here. And here's the most troubling thing. When you go back and look at Devin Nunes' comments on your show last Tuesday, he said this evidence was worse in quality and perhaps also had more exculpatory information, and yet, it wasn't disclose properly to the FISA court. We may have two corrupt lines of evidence flowing in to try to justify this investigation. HANNITY: So, then, Sara, we would have the dossier in one corner and then the spies we already knew in the campaign. Then you got intel people secretly trying to basically infiltrate. And I don't know if the word tempt or entice people close to Trump -- SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Set up. HANNITY: How would you characterize it? CARTER: I would characterize it as, if they didn't have any evidence of a crime and they are sending all of these informants in, allegedly, these six informants, and they are enticing them with real estate deals or, I have information on Hillary Clinton that's going to help your campaign, I would call that a set up, Sean, straight and simple. Look, if they are collecting information -- by the way, let's not forget they were also collecting information on Americans through unmasking. And John and I broke those stories well over a year and a half ago. There were over 300 that Samantha Power alone collected and we still don't have information on that. So, they weaponized the intelligence system and the intelligence apparatus, they go after specific targets within the Trump campaign. Here's a question that I'd like to ask and I think the FBI needs to answer. Did they debrief the Hillary Clinton campaign? Were there any Russians attempting to target the Hillary Clinton campaign? I find it difficult to believe that the Russians only try to reach out to the Trump campaign. And if they did it, if they did, did the FBI debrief them on that? Because that would answer a lot of questions for us -- if they didn't do it for Trump and they did for Hillary. HANNITY: If it was really about concern about Russia, then how is it possible the whole dossier issue that Clinton paid for? By the way, it was disseminated before the election to influence the American people, I'm sure there were people that probably read about hookers in the bed in Moscow, I'll be a little easier tonight, they probably said I'm not voting for that guy. But those are all paid for Russian lies. If they cared about Russian interference, why did that come up? Or, John, Uranium One, where we all -- you know, Sara knows, I know the informant. We've all spoken to the informant. The informant describing kickbacks, bribery, money laundering, extortion, Putin's thugs in America, and they still got approval and the Clinton Foundation still got their money in terms of a kickback to the foundation. SOLOMON: I think there is growing evidence that the Clinton political research effort was an effort to make sure that Hillary Clinton's vulnerabilities on Moscow would be off limits in the election by putting Trump on the defensive and from that they put an entire criminal investigation I two years of our country with still no evidence of collusion. At this point, we have a few people pleading guilty to lying about unrelated events and that it's a real -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Loan applications, taxi medallions and people not paying their taxes. SOLOMON: Yes, and I got a little bit of breaking news for you -- HANNITY: And get out of jail free cards, but yes. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: To the Uranium One and the dossier issue, you get the last word. CARTER: OK. Well, Sean, let me tell you this. When it comes to Mueller, we know this for a fact, that William Campbell, and I talked to him today and I spoke with him. And he said, look, he was informed of everything about Rosatom, about the uranium deal, he was in charge of the FBI then. So, we have to ask ourselves this. Where we are going from here? We have so much evidence on the other side, is there going to be a special counsel investigating the other side, or what we seen in Hillary Clinton, what we've seen with our weaponization of our intelligence apparatus, when is that going to happen? HANNITY: I got -- there's something percolating that will probably break Monday. Do either one -- you're both smiling. Do either one of you want to give the audience, well, a little heads up? SOLOMON: I'll give you some breaking news right now, Sean. Just two hours ago federal prosecutors assigned to John Huber, the U.S. investigating the Clintons, reached out to a whistle-blower in the Clinton Foundation the first time we've seen contact between a Clinton Foundation whistle-blower in that particular federal office. That just happened tonight. HANNITY: Are you talking about the one who is homeless, right? SOLOMON: No. You will learn more about them on Monday. I bet you. HANNITY: All right. We'll learn that on Monday. Sara, last word? CARTER: I say we have to keep our eyes -- HANNITY: Give us a preview of Monday's coming attraction. (LAUGHTER) CARTER: I think we've got a lot to look forward to on Monday, Sean, and I think that the American people are going to see that there was happening behind the scenes at the FBI, as well as the Department of Justice and Michael Horowitz have been doing a deep dive into this. And there's going to be a lot of breaking news in the next months and months to come. HANNITY: Amazing, the year of the boomerang -- we will right all along -- continues. Thank you both. We'll have more reports on Monday. All right. When we come back, Robert Mueller's witch hunt is sabotaging our foreign policy. Newt Gingrich will answer that question directly ahead, in this special edition of "Hannity: Trump versus the Resistance". (NEWSBREAK) HANNITY: All right. Welcome back to this special edition of "Hannity: Trump Versus the Resistance." Now, as the Mueller witch hunt continues, there's still no evidence of any Trump Russia collusion. So, ask yourself, why was the Michael Cohen filing done on the eve of this high stakes G20 Summit? This is not the first time this is happened. Remember the Paul Manafort indictment, the George Papadopoulos guilty plea, both announced just days before the president left for an historic 12-day trip to Asia and White House Press Secretary Sanders, she said today that the probe may be hurting the U.S.'s ties with Moscow, all suggesting that the special counsel may be trying to derail the Trump presidency in more ways than one. Joining us now with reaction, author of the bestseller, "Trump's America: The Trump About Our Nation's Great Comeback", FOX News contributor and former speaker of the house, Newt Gingrich. You know, one of the things, you know, you talk about the success of Trump in your book, but then you also have the warnings, warnings, warnings, what the president needs to be aware of. Obviously, I stand on my original premise. Mueller is out for blood. Mueller picked this team of Democratic donors, even Clinton's old lawyer at the foundation, Andrew Weissmann and company, for a reason. He wants to hurt the president as badly as he can, and that's why he's offering all these get out of jail free cards if he just say whatever we want you to say. NEWT GINGRICH: Look, I think we ought to quit talking about the Mueller investigation, and start talking about the Mueller Trump destruction project, because it's very clear that Mueller and his left-wing lawyers are methodically doing everything they can to destroy the president. In effect, to create a non-justice department, because this is not justice, a non-justice department coup d'etat in which they undo the votes of the American people and they pile enough junk. And that's all the stuff is, they file enough junk around that they just gradually overwhelm President Trump. I think if you start and you look at everything they have been doing, and you said, you know, from day one, this was never about Russian collusion, this was never about finding the truth, this was about a methodical effort to destroy President Trump by any means necessary. And you look at some of the things they are getting indictments on, I mean, again, somebody goes and lies to the Congress, that stupid, they deserve to get indicted. I'm not in any way defending Cohen, but they were lying about stuff that wasn't a crime. That's the point that Andy McCarthy keeps making as a former Justice Department lawyer that none of the underlying patterns were crimes and people were allowed to be in business. People are allowed to do deals. People are allowed to do a lot of stuff. And yet, what you get of course is the headline in the elite media that somehow this is another terrible blow to Trump. What it really is, is further proof that Mueller's interest is in destroying the Trump presidency. And your point is exactly right. They have no reason to release this as the president goes to an important meeting in Argentina with 19 other world leaders. HANNITY: All right. GINGRICH: I mean, this is sort of like, undermining America for partisan reasons. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So then, you've been through this. You've been in the minority in Congress and you were the speaker in Congress. A lot easier to be the speaker I'm just guessing although, you've take a lot more income. And let's be honest, you took a lot your fair share. So, we don't have an agenda the Democrats in the House. All they're saying endless, endless investigation. Nancy Pelosi's first agenda item she announced earlier today, release Donald Trump's taxes. Now that's not going anywhere in the Senate. Good thing the president went out to campaign very hard to keep the Senate because that's going to help him, but it's still the intention. I don't see an agenda to serve the American people. GINGRICH: Well, and remember, Sean, this is what people have to understand. There's a 1923 law which allows the chairman of the Ways and Means committee to request the tax returns of any American. So, I can imagine a circumstance with the new chairman of the liberal Democrat will exercise his legal right. The Internal Revenue Service will turn over the Trump tax returns which are supposedly secret and the release of which would be a felony. And then by some magic methods that all of us will be shocked at they'll turn out on page one the New York Times. So, I would not -- I mean, these people are playing for blood. This is more like the chair in the French Revolution than it is like traditional American politics. They will do anything break any rules and I think break any law if it will enable them to get Donald Trump. HANNITY: Let's go to the border. You know, it was interesting during the campaign. They're just trying to gin up racial tensions. This isn't a real. They are thousand miles away. Well, they're not a thousand miles away anymore. And border patrol agents pelted with rocks, bottles, projectiles, and but using the same tactics that Obama used. Interestingly, nobody cared then. Tear gas to disperse crowds that would try to break down the wall and enter the country and charge into the country illegally. Petty severe crisis in Mexico. Then you have 600 criminals identified by the DHS and Mexican officials that have infiltrated the caravan. How do you, where do we go from here? How do you stop that from happening? GINGRICH: Well, first of all, every citizen should ask their Democratic congressman or senator, are you really comfortable with 600 identified criminals coming in the United States and just one particular way. Remember, if they get to come in this time the number of people who will be coming north in the next six months will be amazing. Because people who were down there watching to see what happens. And I think it's is astonishing to me that Senator Schumer, Speaker Pelosi, nobody is held accountable when you get a report from the Department of Homeland Security that in this particular group there are 600 people who were convicted criminals. Now I suspect the average American if that was presented to them which it won't be by the elite news, it won't be on the New York Times page one. But that's an astonishing piece of data. So, I think that the president simply has to come back home keep driving the point. He's the one person who can break through the news blackout and get to shoot to the American people. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Shoot, all right, strategically-- GINGRICH: And I do think-- HANNITY: -- it would be a good or bad idea to either, a, use the reconciliation process to get full funding of the wall over the president to say I'll just shut down the government and just wait. GINGRICH: Well, I think the president has already indicated whether he may do to shut the border and see how much how rapidly that causes a real pain level. I mean, the number of American businesses will be knocking on doors in Congress. Within two days it will be amazing. HANNITY: All right. Mr. Speaker, thanks for being with us. All right. When we come back, busy news night. The Clintons back in the news for all the wrong reasons. This time it's going to be real. We have a full report, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. As we continue on Hannity. While President Trump continually fends off the resistance the Clintons ever notice they seem to always get a free pass. Well, today the Daily Caller reporting the FBI has raided the home of a whistleblower who testified and they actually gave documents pertaining to the Clinton Foundation and Uranium One to a government watchdog. You want real Russia collusion, the real story with real evidence, real proof. Well, remember the Clinton State Department multiple other agencies. They approve the transfer of 20 percent of U.S. uranium to that Russian company. And by the way, interest link to the Uranium One deal gave millions and millions to the Clinton Foundation. And just today, Judicial Watch announced that they are suing for documents about the efforts by the Obama DOJ to shut down an investigation into the foundation. What about the foundation silence on all their donations from the Saudi's and other foreign governments that we have documented on this program. Hardly a peep from the mainstream media any of this. Here with reaction by the way, the host of Huckabee, Mike Huckabee is with us. Fox News contributor Tammy Bruce is back with us. You know, I look at the Uranium One deal and I know William Campbell, and I interviewed him and he saw the bribery, extortion, kickbacks, money laundering and Putin's thugs here in America, Tammy. And Robert Mueller happen to be the FBI director at that time. He is getting the information; the sale went through. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. HANNITY: He approved the money I kicked back, not a peep in the media. BRUCE: No. HANNITY: Just like there's no peep in the media about the phony Russian dossier that Hillary paid for. BRUCE: Yes. HANNITY: Why? BRUCE: Well, look the system is established to protect and for things like this. This is why you have such a sloppy system with the Hillary campaign. There's been such a level of protection that they haven't had to be careful, and suddenly thank goodness because the American people and Donald Trump that environment changed and they were unprepared. This has been going on. Well, who knows how long? Generation, certainly. Certainly, through the 20th century. So, the system is meant to do this and it's of course it's a mutant kind of system that protects the bad guys. We are in the process of changing that and it's going to take more than two years or one term or two years. It's going to take at least a generation to move us out of this corrupt kind of framework. And of course, it's good fight back. And when you've got the entire monster geared to fighting back. It takes somebody really strong and it takes the American people. This is, you know, we're the bulwark here. The legacy media has abandoned their job and the American people are the ones now through. Thank goodness, the internet new media. Multiple modes of communication, cable television-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But it's still-- BRUCE: -- that makes the difference. So, we're going to be able to do it, but the communication framework is going to be different. HANNITY: For example, Governor, so you have all these people the Senate judiciary I believe whatever the charge is they believe it all. But they didn't say a word about the charges, not 36 years ago about Keith Ellison emotional and physical abuse. They didn't, they all love the Clintons. We know all the allegations against Bill. They didn't say a word about Avenatti. He wasn't going to give Brett Kavanaugh due process, and presumption of innocence. So, it's not the issue they care about, it's the politics they care about, just like here. Russia collusion but not if it's Hillary's dossier or Uranium One giving 20 percent of America's uranium to the hostile regime of Vladimir Putin. We though Russia was so bad that they would want to join us and really get to the bottom of it. MIKE HUCKABEE, FOX NEWS HOST: Well, this isn't about truth justice of the American way. This is about raw power and keeping it, and if you lose it then get it back even if you have to try to overturn the results of an election. And that's why it should be so very troubling. Sean, I don't think you or anybody else in America truly believes that Bill Clinton gave a speech that was worth half a million dollars in Moscow while his wife happens to be the Secretary of State. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And he met Putin. HUCKABEE: And then suddenly, and amazingly and coincidentally, it just happened that the Uranium One deal came through, FBI director was Bob Mueller. I don't think he's investigating that while he's got this incredible unit of Democrats that he's assembled to do investigation of Russia collusion. The real Russia collusion is seemingly going uninvestigated. And then you have-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. But governor, here's the bottom line. HUCKABEE: Yes. HANNITY: We're like an island here bringing up news and information with evidence something they don't have against Donald Trump. And yet, it penetrates, and it penetrates. And I bet anything Mueller is going to use a sledgehammer to try and bludgeon in his report, Donald Trump. HUCKABEE Well, there is no doubt about that. But the one thing that has to happen is that the president has to appoint a permanent attorney general, not a temporary like Whitaker. Maybe it's Lindsey Graham, maybe it's Trey Gowdy. I don't know. Maybe a Sean Hannity for heaven sakes. HANNITY: That's a bad idea. HUCKABEE: But he's got to have somebody-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I wouldn't get one vote. HUCKABEE: Yes, you know what, it's probably a bad idea. They will never confirm you, that's for sure. HANNITY: You're right. HUCKABEE: You'll never make it to the Senate. BRUCE: Well-- HANNITY: Tammy wouldn't even vote for me if she was on the Senate. (CROSSTALK) HUCKABEE: But they're got to have someone, Sean. BRUCE: That's not true. Look. HUCKABEE: They got to have someone, Sean, who is going to be relentless, not in trying to be harsh to the Democrats but trying to be fair to the truth. BRUCE: But let me add. HUCKABEE: And get to it no matter who it bothers. BRUCE: Let me add, because the person that is going to do the best job is going to be the person that the Democrats freak out about the most. This is why the Senate as it exists now the new -- the newbies coming in. Even with Romney, we've got to make sure the president makes it clear to Mitch McConnell and every other senator in the Republican Party that that this matters that his next attorney general must be confirmed that they cannot allow the Democrats to mock up the waters and change this framework. Everything is at stake because the person who is right for that office and every appointee that the president is going to upset people, specifically because they intend to clean House and that's what's important here. HANNITY: All right, guys. Great analysis. We'll stay on it. We'll do their job. Eventually, hopefully the truth comes out. And when we come back, another example abusive bias against conservatives. This time social media giant Google will expose the search giant when we get back right here as we continue tonight. Trump versus the resistance on Hannity. TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Live from America's news headquarters, I'm Trace Gallagher. Alaska is picking up the pieces tonight after a magnitude 7.0 earthquake rocks the state. The powerful tore up roads like this and shook buildings. According to the U.S. Geological Survey the epicenter was about seven miles north of Anchorage, the state's largest city. There were a number of aftershocks, including a magnitude 5.7. No deaths have been reported but at least 40,000 people are without power tonight. President Trump signs the new trade pact with Canada and Mexico. Mr. Trump was joined by the leaders of both countries during the G20 summit in Buenos Aires, Argentina. This deal would replace the North American Free Trade Agreement. It still needs to be approved by all three countries before it can officially take effect. When news breaks out, we'll break in. I'm Trace Gallagher. Now back to Sean Hannity. HANNITY: All right. As we continue tonight, Trump versus the resistance, well, tonight, we have yet another stunning example anti-conservative bias from a big tech giant. Daily Caller reporting Google employees allegedly actually debating burying conservative media in the search results in the lead up to the election in 2016. And a Google spokesperson responded to the disturbing report. The statement reads, in part, quote, "Google has never manipulated its search results or modified any of its products to promote a particular political ideology. Our processes and policies do not allow for any manipulation of search results to promote political ideologies," unquote. This is not the first time Google has been in hot water with conservatives. Remember this video of top Google execs at a company meeting recorded when Donald Trump won Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, it's very sad. Most people here are pretty upset and pretty sad for and because of the election. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That was the first moment I really felt like we were going to lose. And it was this massive like, kick in the gut that we are going to lose. And it was really painful. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We'll be very strong and we'll call in, you know, not just from a press standpoint or a P.R. standpoint but actually working hard behind the scenes to stand up for what's right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's this worth being very vigilant and thinking about all these issues what can we do to it, too, maybe a better quality of governance decision-making. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Here to discuss big tech bias author of this report Daily Caller reporter, Peter Hasson, and nationally syndicated radio host and the founder of Prager University, own university. He is a doctorate from his own university. Good to see you, Dennis. DENNIS PRAGER, NATIONALLY SYNDICATED TALK SHOW HOST: I don't. I don't. HANNITY: And you know, let me start with you. yes. PRAGER: I got no. I got no. HANNITY: Because we're seeing this all over social media. It's happening on Twitter, people being bad because of their opinions. I understand they have the right to their own standards. But are they objective, are they biased. You see the Google reaction. We had issues with Facebook. And I'm looking at all of this and I'm thinking it is -- these companies are powerful. Those decisions if they make them that has huge implications. PRAGER: We have had about this 60 of our 400 videos at various times on the restricted list. They include such terrible things as a history of the Korean War, one that I happen to have given on our human beings more valuable than animals. There's a visual real porno example for you. HANNITY: That's a real tough for you. PRAGER: I mean, this is what's -- that's a real tough one. Andrew Roberts, the great British historian. He's gave, just gave a course on why Churchill save western civilization, that's on the restricted list. If it's pro-west, pro- America, pro-religion and pro-Israel it is almost always placed on a restricted list, which means that if you have any anti-porn filters in your house you can't even see our videos. Libraries can't see them. Schools can't see them if they have any of these filters and we can't monetize them. HANNITY: You know, Peter-- PRAGER: So, it's very curious. HANNITY: I -- it's a fine line. Companies do have a right in a free society, and I don't want to -- I don't want to get involved in their policy. I believe in free speech, more speech, even -- but when you're making editorial decisions and you're that big it's a little chilling but maybe the answer is free market. Maybe the answer is, create a competitor. Nobody I would assume would want a racist or (Inaudible) an anti-Semite on their sites. I would understand that part, but who then where does the line get drawn. PETER HASSON, REPORTER, THE DAILY CALLER: I think it's important to keep in mind that all of these tech companies, you know, portray themselves as neutral platforms, you know. So, it would be one thing if, you know, you're a Huffington Post and you say we're going to promote a certain viewpoint. You know, if that's -- if the Huffington Post if they want to do that, that's fine, but that's not how Google portrays themselves. And what these documents that we obtained showed is it showed Google employees talking about, you know, politicizing their products for political ends and to hurt President Donald Trump, you know. And Google get back to us and said, well, these were just conversations they never really went anywhere. HANNITY: Al right, guys. Thank you. Unbelievable. I think conservatives need to get their own companies here. More HANNITY right after this. HANNITY: All right. Unfortunately, that's all the time we have left this evening. We want to say as always, thank you for being with us. We'll always be fair and balanced, we are not the destroy-Trump media. Don't forget my syndicated radio program, 600 plus stations around the country, just go to Hannity.com, and hopefully you can join us every day, as well. And I have an announcement coming up next week, I think you'll like it. All right. I hope you have a great weekend. We'll see you back here. Load-Date: December 1, 2018 End of Document Legal Minds on the Panel Have Said that Mueller's Team is so Desperate that until Now, They Couldn't Find any Evidence on the Trump- Russia Collusion; A Number of Migrants Have Clashed Out with Border Patrol Agents on Sunday, Some Were Arrested but Not Charged with Anything, Others Decided to Self-Deport Themselves; CNN Fired their Contributor, Marc Lamont Hill, for His Outrageous Comments about Israel; New Developments in Mueller's Witch-Hunt Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 29, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7790 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Jason Chaffetz, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Geraldo Rivera Guests: Alan Dershowitz, Dan Bongino, Joe Concha Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Two things I'm never going to do in life, two shows. Jeopardy, I'm great at home and I'll blow it at person. And I'm not doing your quiz show, ever! It's never happening. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Why? HANNITY: Because I'm not -- CARLSON: Never say never, Sean. I think you'd win. HANNITY: Whom I going to lose too? It wouldn't be fun. Great show. Tucker, thank you. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: All right. Welcome to HANNITY. All right. This is, as I have been saying, the biggest abuse of power, corruption scandal in modern U.S. history. Throughout the hour, we're going to break it all down A to Z. Information I promise you're not going to get anywhere else. It's not as complicated as they are making it elsewhere. In other words, the Mueller witch hunt should put real fear in the hearts of every law-abiding citizen, every American. It doesn't matter where your politics are. There is no equal justice under the law. There is no equal application under the law and the blatant political bias around every turn. We are criminalizing political differences in America. A dangerous precedent is being set now and Mueller, he's not only on a mission. He's not a mission for truth and justice. He's on a crusade to destroy, delegitimize, disrupt the Donald Trump presidency. And also coming up tonight, I'm going to weigh in on the recent developments as they relate to Michael Cohen, Jerome Corsi, Roger Stone. We'll break down in detail the disgusting two-tier justice system in this country tonight. And also, after widespread pressure, fake news CNN had to fire one of their contributors over an awful bigoted, anti-Semitic rant. We're going to show you how CNN's far left, Trump-obsessed rage has fostered what is a corrosive, abusively biased environment at the "facts first" network. It's worse than it's ever even. All right. We're going to get through it. It's going to take the full hour. Stay with us. Time to start with our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. So, the Mueller fishing expedition is now day 561 and now desperate for dirt, any dirt on Donald Trump. They are frenetic. They're going to the well 70 hours Michael Cohen apparently spent with the special prosecutor. One time Trump attorney pled guilty to a charge of lying to Congress over something called the Moscow project. Now, Cohen is now claiming that the Trump Organization continued to negotiate the finance by Russia, name lease of Trump deal of a potential building in Russia during the 2016 election. He first said discussions had ended in January of 2016. Now, he's saying they ended in June of 2016. The destroy Trump media, of course, used these anonymous sources, they are saying that Cohen, get this, allegedly told investigators he was negotiating a deal in Moscow to maybe give Vladimir Putin a $15 million penthouse in the proposed building project that Donald Trump wasn't paying for, so that rich Russian oligarchs would want to live there. And just moments ago, John Roberts reported a source close to the president calling it, quote, nuts. It would be a stupid idea. And the president never heard of any such deal. And, by the way, this deal, guess what, it never, ever, ever happened. The project never got off the ground. No Trump organization investments were ever made and today, the Trump Organization has no buildings in Russia. You wouldn't know it if you're watching the mainstream media. There's -- by the way, even if it had happened, this is the most fascinating part, there's no crime here. None whatsoever. Donald Trump was a real estate mogul in New York, that's what he did his whole adult life and how he made a living. And he invested in many countries. By the way, doesn't every politician that gets paid with our money, don't they get paid when they are out campaigning for the next election by us? In 2017, this potential project was widely reported everywhere by just about every outlet. Fake news CNN, ABC News, so did "The Hill", almost every other news network. In other words, we knew this. This is not a story. In any way is it a news story. It's been reported on extensively. However, that doesn't matter to the left. And it certainly didn't matter to Robert Mueller. He is more interested in making the mainstream media bubble and fizz like Alka-Seltzer in water and he is just desperate. All he wants to do every day is mention Russia in some way, indicting all these, you know, former KGB guys, all their intelligence people that he's never bringing to the United States ever, under any circumstances, just so he can mention Russia, fomenting breathless reporting, to give credit to its never ending witch hunt. And, by the way, Robert Mueller is playing your media with their bias in their hate of Trump just like a fiddle. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's Shakespearean because somebody who said he would take a bullet for Donald Trump is now pointing the gun at them. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Michael Cohen could be the most -- single most terrifying person for Donald Trump, the single most destructive person for Donald Trump going forward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Today is the really good day for Donald Trump to resign, I really believe that. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president's reaction to Michael Cohen's -- the news about Michael Cohen today was exactly what we as prosecutors always heard from mob bosses and drug kingpins, that is the cooperator is lying. He is just saying these things about me that aren't true to get a lighter sentence. And so, this is kind of playing out exactly like a significant, complicated, organized crime prosecution would play out. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everything is aiming at the president personally and that's got to be very unsettling for them. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So, the truth is putting aside all the conspiratorial reporting from people that say they're fair, balanced, objective and they're not, your mainstream media. Even if Michael Cohen's time line revelation was accurate. Let's say it is, you know, that it wasn't in January, it was June. No crime was committed, ever. It wouldn't be a crime. Legal scholar Alan Dershowitz who's going to join us in just a minute summed it up perfectly. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALAN DERSHOWITZ, LEGAL SCHOLAR: Almost all the indictments secured by Mueller have either been indictments of people lying that is for committing crimes that didn't occur before he was appointed but occurred as a result of his being appointed, or finding financial misconduct by people that are unrelated to the president or unrelated to the Russia probe. This new development with Cohen suggests that they're going to go after political issues, not just criminal issues. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Alan Dershowitz is dead on accurate. And, by the way, he is just telling the truth. And whatever happened, may be I'm old-fashioned but I kind of believed in attorney-client privilege. If Cohen was in fact working for the Trump Organization as a lawyer, how can Mueller and Cohen break what is a pretty ethical mandate, especially when there's no crime? Now, of course, despite all of this, there's no evidence of Trump Russian collusion. Nothing, zero. And tonight, President Trump, he weighed in on the Cohen guilty verdict with some pretty harsh words. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: He is lying about a project that everybody knew about. I mean, we were very open with it. We are thinking about building a building. I decided ultimately not to do it. There would've been nothing wrong if I did to it. If I did do it, there would've been nothing wrong. He is a weak person and not a very smart person. He's got himself a big prison sentence and he is trying to get a much lesser prison sentence by making up a story. Now, here's the thing: even if he was right, doesn't matter, because I was allowed to do whatever I wanted during the campaign. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And, by the way, we're going to get to this issue, I call it the Sammy "The Bull" Gravano syndrome if you will, how prosecutors offered deals. Tell us this, and you get a get out of jail free card, or lower sentence, less sentence. Now, the president's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, he also weighed in. He said, quote, Michael Cohen is lying. It's no surprise that Cohen lied to Congress. He is a proven liar who's doing everything he can to get out of a long-term prison sentence for serious crimes of bank and tax fraud that had nothing to do with the Trump Organization. Look, I know Michael Cohen. He has a wonderful family. I can't imagine the pressure that he is under. I'm not going to pile on. He's got a lot of hard things that he is facing, but this is important. If this is Mueller's big witness, it is fair to ask, who are we to believe -- the Michael Cohen then or the Michael Cohen now? That's a fair question. This is just the latest example of what is Mueller's concerted effort to turn the screws on everyone who was ever associated with President Trump. Let's look at the list. Michael Flynn, no Russia collusion, he pled guilty to lying to investigators. They ruined his life, he had to sell his house. And they probably threatened his kid is my guess. George Papadopoulos, he is spending two weeks in jail. Nothing about Russia. Lying to investigators. He now will have a felony on his track record forever. Paul Manafort had a book thrown over him. Oh, let's see, financial crimes dating back to 2007? Bank loan applications, taxes, nothing Russian. Nothing. What's amazing is he got a cooperation deal that ended likely because, well, he wouldn't lie like Jerome Corsi wouldn't lie. Meaning he's -- think about this: Paul Manafort tonight is willing to risk dying in prison than lie as the prosecutors would want. Jerome Corsi on the show last night, on my radio show for a full hour this afternoon rejecting another lying investigators plea deal. He might die in prison. He is 72 years old. He could have gotten to get out of jail free card and now is under Mueller's microscope, potentially facing life in prison, dying in prison like Paul Manafort. And as he said last night on my radio show today, he is willing to do that because he can't lie before his God. That's what he said. His faith won't let him. Roger Stone is also literally feeling the special counsel's wrath. Now, none of the men I just mentioned to you have pled guilty to or admitted to anything related to Russia collusion. There's no evidence of any Russia collusion. None of them are being tried for any crimes related to collusion. Five hundred and sixty-one days of what? Now, here's the problem and this is where we get to the crux of the matter. We have to analyze this deeply. What's happening is instead of seeking truth and justice, instead of applying our laws, equally applying our laws to everybody, equal justice under the law, what you are watching is a special counsel that has spun out-of-control, left way beyond his mandate, laying just perjury traps and literally trying to coerce people into what we call testi-lying. In other words, Mueller is telling people. If you just say what we want. I mean, Corsi give me full detail in my radio show today. Look, there was -- just tell us. You won't even get probation. You know, if not, you're going to die in jail. That's the choice. And to think he is saying, I'm not going to lie, I won't lie. I believe in God, Jesus. I'm not going to do it. It's similar prosecutorial treatment that, remember, Sammy "The Bull" Gravano -- you may not remember the case, I'll remind you. Killed at least, get this, that guy right there killed at least 19 people. He got off on no jail time. Then he just had to literally testify against John Gotti. And then after that, he was rewarded. Not only did he not go to jail, he was in the witness protection program when he got a nice new house in Arizona. Isn't that nice? Nineteen people. No time in jail. Meanwhile, if you are not a notorious gangster or a Trump ally, the wheels of justice are turning much differently. Mueller's team collects lying to investigator, guilty pleas like they're going out of style. They can't get the underlying crime or these people to say things that they don't live to be true. Top Democrats, deep state bureaucrats, they lie to get away scot- free. I've got the list. Look at the longtime Clinton aide, Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, blatantly lied when they told investigators that they had no knowledge of Hillary's private emails. Really? Because they actually emailed there. Our friend and reporter here on the Fox News Channel, special report, Catherine Herridge reporting either DOJ official Bruce Ohr or Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson likely lied due to their contradictory testimony. Dirty dossier author Christopher Steele, not only did he lie, he lied and leaked and was fired by the FBI. And then guess what? He was working still with Bruce Ohr, fourth most powerful guy at the Justice Department, and now we have notes that show that he was trying to feed Bruce Ohr whose wife Nellie worked for Fusion GPS information he was trying to feed Robert Mueller. And meanwhile, remember, Steele doesn't even stand by his own dossier when challenged in an interrogatory in Great Britain. James Clapper, let's go to the videotape. He lied under oath about national surveillance programs. So too John Brennan. He also lied under oath about leaking. James Comey lied under oath when he said the report about the Clinton investigation and not been written before she was interviewed lie. Comey's second-in-command, Andrew McCabe, he was actually fired because of his pattern of lying. Where are the federal cases against these liars? Against these people lying to Congress? Instead, what, we are pushing for charges, fired FBI Director Comey actually defended the DOJ's pattern of lying on the view, literally saying, I lied, McCabe lied, but you can still be a good person if you lie. Well, unless you're a Republican, then they're going to put you in jail. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MEGHAN MCCAIN, THE VIEW: Your second in command, McCabe, was fired for lying multiple times within the FBI. You defended his character on Twitter. That's OK. Lying is OK internally? JAMES COMEY, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR: No, it's definitely not. In fact, the McCabe case illustrates what an organization that is committed to the truth looks like. We investigated to hold -- I ordered that investigation. We investigated and hold people accountable. Good people lie. I laid out on the book, I think I'm a good person, where I have lied. I still believe Andrew McCabe is a good person. But the inspector general found that he lied and there are severe consequences in the Justice Department for lying as they should be throughout the government. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Good people, they live. The only problem is, they're not giving Mueller wants, oh, then you're going to be charged with perjury. It's what I've been telling you. You want real Russia collusion, we got it with all the evidence that Mueller doesn't have about drum. We've got the fixed email investigation, violation of the Espionage Act, the biggest obstruction of justice case I've ever seen, the dirty dossier bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC. Why? To lie to voters and convince voters of Russian hookers urinating in Trump's bed in Moscow so that they won't vote for him. I wonder how many Americans didn't vote for Trump because of that leaked lie, that paid for lie. The FISA fraud abuse, lying to FISA judges, literally a FISA fraud extravaganza. And, of course, omissions that don't even tell the judges that Hillary paid for it. And then we got insurance policies, leaking policies. Is Robert Mueller even going to ever look in that direction? I thought we were looking for the truth, for real Russia collusion. We've got evidence on all of this and it's a slam-dunk case. Why is he not? Because there's one set of rules in this country now for one group of Americans, the swamp creatures, or if you are a liberal Democrat or your name is Clinton. Another set of rules for everyone else. Try this at home. You are subpoenaed, you delete the email subpoenaed, you acid wash your hard drive. You have your devices busted and you have SIM cards taken out. Good luck to you. It's not going to work. In other words, we don't have equal application of the law, equal justice under the law. This is a two-tier justice system. You as an American, every American tonight, it should scare the hell out of you. If the president of the United States and those who surround him are subject to what is now clearly a double standard political persecution, nobody in this country is safe. Nobody. This is a United States of America. We're not a banana republic. At least we're not supposed to be. This is not how our constitutional republic and system of justice is supposed to work. We can do better, we better do better. We better demand better. We'll have more on this throughout the show. But, first, we turn to a network whose motto is -- well, about as fake as their coverage, the so-called "facts first" network, CNN, forced to fire a longtime contributor but only after widespread outcry over his anti-Semitic rant during a speech at the U.N. Take a look at this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARC LAMONT HILL, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: If we are standing in solidarity with the Palestinian people, we must recognize the right of an occupied people to defend itself. We must prioritize peace. But we must not romanticize or fetishize it. Commit to political action, grassroots action, local action, and international action that will give us what justice requires. And that is a free Palestine, from the river into the sea. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: In case you don't know, from the river to the sea, Israel is located between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean. Marc Lamont Hill was literally repeating a call from terrorists and Palestinian extremists. In other words, you wipe Israel off the map. Now, while Hill was ultimately fired, literally disgusting far left rhetoric from CNN anchors, contributors did nothing new. Their hatred for the president and everything that he represents, the fact that he won has driven this network into a very dark, frankly scary place. Day after day and minute after minute, second after a second, the coverage is more absurd, biased and frankly hateful. We're going to show you a montage tonight you'll want to show your friends. But first, joining us now, reaction to our top story. FOX News contributor Sara Carter and the author of "The Deep State", FOX News contributor Jason Chaffetz. Jason, you were there with a lot of those people that I put on my list lied. JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. HANNITY: I don't see any of them -- I don't see any consequences for any of that. So, am I to interpret this right? That the only people that get hit with lying to Congress issue are if you are related to Trump. That's it. Or General Flynn, Michael Cohen, pick your person or poison. CHAFFETZ: Yes. Look, I was the chairman of the Oversight Committee and it was crystal clear in the Hillary Clinton investigation, the five people closest to Hillary, they all got immunity agreements and immunity agreements that required no cooperation with the government. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Explain what that means and explain the computer aspect. They were able to keep the evidence. CHAFFETZ: Yes, and so, you have Cheryl Mills, you have Heather Samuelson, you have Bryan Pagliano, you have these people closest to Hillary Clinton. She is under investigation because of what happened in the inspector general, they are giving immunity agreements, not complete immunity, but immunity from any prosecution from the Department of Justice. But they didn't have to cooperate with the governments. They didn't have to answer questions from Congress. They didn't have to provide information to the Department of Justice. That's why you give them immunity agreement is to get this. And then on the Trump case -- I mean, everybody from Eric Holder to Hillary Rodham Clinton to the IRS targeting scandal to the Fast and Furious, all of these cases we have referrals from the Congress to the Department of Justice to prosecute them. And nothing, just crickets. Never had a response from them. HANNITY: By the way, Sara Carter. We put on my website a link. Sara, and my radio producer Linda McLaughlin produced a nonprofit, totally informational, great -- literally, it's a public service about the opioid crisis in the country. We put it up on hannity.com. So, let's stay focused on what's really going on here, because to see people that will risk their lives and say, you know what? My faith in God, my belief in our country tells me I can't go along with your lies. Jerome Corsi spilling out in detail, they're saying, say this, you won't even get probation. We'll leave you alone. Really? SARA CARTER, FOXNEWS CONTRIBUTOR: So, they want him -- they want him to compose, right? This is what Mueller needs. HANNITY: Ahh, compose. CARTER: Exactly. He needs people to compose this narrative in order for him to mean something. I mean, look, he is building a legacy, right? He's the special counsel. That's why he keeps pushing towards Russia, even though nothing connects to Russia. But Michael Cohen did, yes, he lied to Congress. It's wrong but we saw, Sean, even the clips that you showed, James Clapper lied in 2013. He flat out lied to Senator Wyden who was a Democrat who asked him specifically if United States government was collecting information on Americans and he said, no, sir, we are not, not wittingly. And he knew he was lying. He ran out a statute of limitations on that, it was five years. And he walks away from it. And this isn't the only time. And the FBI uses the dossier, full of lies, full of lies, to go after, to spy for an American -- (CROSSTALK) CARTER: Exactly. HANNITY: Russian lies use to propagandize the American people to get votes using the Russia lies that you bought and paid for. How do you -- how is it possible that Mueller ignores all of this and the media ignores all of this? CARTER: I don't know how it's possible, but the American people are not dumb, Sean. The American people are seeing right through this. Believe me. They are. They are realizing that there are two sets of rules and this is why it's important for Congress even now, even people are saying, oh, it's a lame duck Congress, nothing can be done now, but it's very important that we continue to push for investigation, and it's important to get to the truth. HANNITY: All right. Let me ask this, last word, we'll give it you, Congressman Chaffetz. Where -- how do we get equal justice under the law back? CHAFFETZ: Well, first thing we need to do is that Congress needs to be able to get James Comey back up in that transcribed interview and let Gowdy and Ratcliffe and Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows, let them go after them. They've got to do that before the clock runs out in January. HANNITY: Well, remember, we also have Lindsey Graham in the Senate. And, oh, Donald Trump campaigned, helped Marsha Blackburn, helped Rick Scott, helped Ron DeSantis, helped Josh Hawley, Joe Donnelly was beaten by Mr. Braun. I think he did a pretty job. That was probably helpful for himself. All right. Thank you both. All right. When we come back, we'll expose perhaps Mueller's most outrageous tactics yet. Alan Dershowitz, Gregg Jarrett, they'll break it all down. We have got a lot of ground to cover. The latest on the caravan and much more, straight ahead. HANNITY: Right now, joining us for legal analysis of all this, Gregg Jarrett, new op-ed out of FOXNews.com entitled "Cohen Guilty Plea Does Absolutely Nothing to Show Wrongdoing by Trump." He joins us. And, of course, his book, number one bestseller, "The Russia Hoax". Also with us, the author of another bestseller, "The Case Against Impeaching Trump", Harvard Law Professor, Alan Dershowitz. Professor, let me start with you and -- OK, I called the Sammy "The Bull" syndrome. Nineteen murderers, you give up Gotti, you testify, no jail time, we'll put you in the witness program, you get a house. Mr. Corsi, you say you never met Julian Assange, never had any contact with anybody from WikiLeaks, you give us a connection, you get a get out of jail free card. Why do you have a problem when something of value is given for testimony? DERSHOWITZ: You should. And Judge Ellis who presided over the first Manafort case had that problem too. He said that kind of thing inclines witnesses not only to sing but to compose. There was a case from years ago when one of United States Court of Appeals that said that when prosecutors offer incentives to witnesses, they are bribing them. Unfortunately that case was later overruled, but the decision was absolutely correct. Prosecutors offer bribes, bribes in terms of life, liberty, contact with family. HANNITY: Is that legal? Because I don't think I'd offer a bribe to them. DERSHOWITZ: Unfortunately, if you offered a bribe, you go to jail. HANNITY: Yes. DERSHOWITZ: But if a prosecutor offers a bribe, it's regarded as good conduct. It shouldn't be legal. Tragically it is. But what we're seeing now is case after case, being built against people simply for lying. These are not crimes that occurred before the special prosecutor came to office. He is supposed to have uncovered crimes that occurred in the past. Instead, he is facilitating and incentivizing the crimes by creating these perjury traps, virtually all of his indictments and pleas come from people who we got to lie in front of investigators by setting perjury traps to them. The other one -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Isn't it amazing though -- DERSHOWITZ: -- is unrelated to the president. HANNITY: Isn't it amazing, though -- DERSHOWITZ: Where's the beef? Where's the crime? HANNITY: Thank you. And let me go to Gregg. It is amazing that both Corsi and Roger Stone, I asked them straight up, multiple times, did you ever have any contacts with Julian Assange? No. WikiLeaks? No. Any sources close? No. Actually, there email messages bear that out that they didn't. And here's where they're trying it seems to get Donald Trump. The Moscow deal, I don't see -- that's what Donald Trump did for a living. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Right, it's perfectly legal. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: -- legal there, number one. And the other is, they're trying to connect him to WikiLeaks through Corsi and Roger Stone. And they say they never talk to the guy. JARRETT: This demonstrates that it's quite likely that Robert Mueller and his team of partisans have no evidence, not a whiff of collusion involving Trump and the Russians. The Trump tower meeting was perfectly legal. Hacking, that is absurd. Trump wasn't involved in that. Construction project that was abandoned in Russia, that has nothing to do with Trump and Russian collusion. If there was evidence of collusion then Michael Cohen would've been charged. Instead, Cohen and four others have been charged with these processed crimes which as the professor points out are actually a creation of the special counsel's presence and have nothing to do with Trump or Trump, Russian collusion. So, I suspect-- (CROSSTALK) DERSHOWITZ: But here's the problem for the president. JARRETT: Yes. DERSHOWITZ: Here's the problem for the president. Robert Mueller will write a report. The report it will be based on the testimony of people who have lied and who have not been cross-examined. When the report comes out it will be extremely critical. I've used the term devastating just like the story report was devastating and Iran-Contra was devastating. But it's devastating only if it is unrebutted which is why it is absolutely essential for the president's team to demand that the Justice Department not allow the release of the Mueller report until they've had a chance to review it and rebut it. And then both reports-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me -- I agree with you. DERSHOWITZ: The Mueller report and the president's lawyer's report come out at the same time-- JARRETT: Right. DERSHOWITZ: -- so the American public can judge. HANNITY: Let me ask you this, professor. This is important. You even said today, firing Mueller wouldn't be an impeachable offense. The president said he is not going to do that. And you also talked about this being political now with Mueller. I want to ask through his prism. Isn't it true based on the Pentagon papers, the Supreme Court decision, six to three. That the New York Times and Washington Post, they can publish stolen material as long as they didn't steal it. DERSHOWITZ: Right. Of course. HANNITY: Now I interviewed Julian Assange he said he didn't get it from Russia. No state party, et cetera. Maybe it was a cut out. Maybe it could have been, you know, we know Hillary's computer is in the bathroom closet were hacked by at least six foreign intelligence services if not more. So my question to you is, based on that, that would mean that these e-mails be it WikiLeaks or the New York Times that published to WikiLeaks which is ironic. If they didn't hack and it was given to them from sources doesn't that mean that what they printed is legal? DERSHOWITZ: Absolutely. The president has the same authority and the president's campaign has the same authority as the New York Times and Washington Post. They are allowed to print material that they know was stolen as long as they didn't tell the people to steal it or give them directions how to hack. Nobody alleges that of the president's campaign. And therefore, they have completely the right to do it. The problem is Mueller is throwing away from his mandate to find crime. It is now looking for political sin. Building buildings in Moscow, using stolen material from Assange. These are not crimes. He has no authority to be a roving commissioner to find political sins. So far, I don't see any evidence of crimes except for ones he helped to facilitate by getting people to lie in front of his own investigators. HANNITY: And Gregg, this is what professor Dershowitz means when he says criminalizing political differences. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: Because all those people that I pointed out lied to Congress, they're not in trouble today like Michael Cohen, are they? JARRETT: Yes. I mean, if you are a friend or a supporter of Donald Trump, you get prosecuted for little or nothing. And if you are a friend of Hillary or the Obama administration or a public official, nothing happens to you. The fact is that Mueller is presenting to these witnesses a narrative of Trump Russia collusion. He is demanding under a threat they support it. Some of them won't and Mueller is trying to prosecute them as a consequence. That is unconscionable. It's wrong and it's corrupt. HANNITY: Fascinating analysis by both of you. Thank you both. No wonder why you both has bestsellers. All right. As we move forward, more breaking news tonight. You won't believe what we are now learning about the caravan. Now 7,000 people in and around Tijuana. Here's the clue. Liberals aren't going to like what we are going to report. I have a mini monologue straight ahead. Also, Geraldo and Dan Bongino, straight ahead. HANNITY: We have major updates on the caravan tonight. Everything we been warning you is unfortunately being proven true. Everything the media people like Barack Obama, everything they were telling you completely false. That's the subject of tonight's mini monologue. Still camped out in Tijuana, Mexico, following clashes with U.S. border patrol officers Sunday. Just today, DHS release more information on what are extremely dangerous conditions for many people where higher women who were assaulted during this journey. Griff Jenkins reporting that some migrants are actually self-deporting as they face diminishing prospects of entering the U.S. legally. And he is also uncovering that despite what the mainstream media has been telling you, the vast majority in the caravan happened to be men. And health officials they are telling that one-third of the people traveling in the caravan are being treated for various health issues including lice, skin infections, three confirmed cases of tuberculosis, four confirmed cases of chicken pox, and more. And by the way, I think we should on a humanitarian basis help. Let me be clear, I said many times, I want many people in the caravan. I know that they are searching for a better life. But storming the border, attacking border patrol rocks, bottles, and other projectiles, that's not seeking asylum. When do you, so-called asylum-seekers act like that? We're also learning tonight none of the migrants involved in the clashes will face any the prosecution despite the president's bow that lawlessness on the border will not be tolerated. Meanwhile, the threat of more violence is even prompting the Department of Justice now to send DEA agents and U.S. marshals service personnel to Southern California. And just last night, we learned that an admitted MS-13 gang member was recently arrested at the border crossing east of Tijuana. And he's been identified as a 29-year-old Honduran. Telling authorities, he was part of the caravan. Despite mounting evidence, the media is continuing to downplay that real threat all while ignoring the failures of the Obama administration and what they did. They shot pepper spray and tear gas at people that try to come into the country illegally. Nobody reported on it then. Joining us now, NRA TV contributor, Dan Bongino, and Fox News contributor our friend, Geraldo Rivera. Geraldo, you know, you got me so mad one night because I said to you, I told you this was coming. What do you want to do, Sean? You want to shoot? No. I don't. I have acknowledged to you how many times that I probably 99 percent want a better life and I sympathize. I really do. My heart goes out to them. I want humanitarian health care. We have -- we can help them with TB and check them. We need to do it. But the problem is, loss, sovereignty, borders. That's what matters and the identified criminals that have infiltrated the caravan. GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT-AT-LARGE: Hello, Dan. I love you, my brother Sean. You know, I stand shoulder to shoulder with both of you when it comes to exposing the Russia collusion illusion. But I think the harsh treatment of those migrants at the border with the pepper spray and all the rest of it, the militarization of the southern border. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Just like Obama, Geraldo. RIVERA: It was, you know, that doesn't make it right, Sean. HANNITY: All right. RIVERA: That doesn't make it right and I-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But what do you -- how do you stop people that are charging your borders? How would do it? RIVERA: Of the 42 arrested, eight were women with children, Sean. Those scenes are etched in our national psyche now. Like the separation of the children from their parents two months ago. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Where were you in the Obama years? Where were all your liberal friends in the Obama years? RIVERA: Sean-- HANNITY: He did it. RIVERA: If indeed these sins were committed during the Obama administration-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They were. RIVERA: -- that doesn't mean these sins being committed now are right. HANNITY: OK. RIVERA: We have a collected recollection. HANNITY: But Dan Bongino, it's not just 42 people. (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: Wait a second, we can't -- we can't -- we can't treat these people like, you mentioned one MS-13 member- - (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: There were hundreds of people. So, what do we do when they charge-- RIVERA: -- among 7,000 or 10,000? HANNITY: What about -- Geraldo. Dan, what about our border patrol guys? Rocks, bottles? Projectiles? Tear gas isn't going to kill you and I think parents have a responsibility to pull their kids away from that situation. That's their responsibility, too. DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: Yes. You know, Geraldo, again, I appreciate your comments. I consider you a friend too. But you are way, way off base on this. I have stood at roll calls, I was a law enforcement officer. I'm not looking for anybody's pat on the back, your tax dollars paid for it. It was a great job. But I ask you the same question Sean ask you. You're given a lot of platitudes. Nobody wants to see anyone tear gas. You win. Points stipulated. We both are empathetic to that. But that was not the choice of the border patrol officials. The choice was made by people who stormed the border illegally. And I ask you a very simple question and I would sincerely appreciate an honest answer. You're standing in the face of these border patrol agents, patrolling our border, just doing their jobs to keep our secure. What are you telling them to do when a rock comes at their face? What? What's your answer? Nobody produces an answer? They just produce platitude. What do you do? RIVERA: You do -- this is what you -- this is what you do not do, Dan. You do not shoot teargas at women with small children. BONGINO: I didn't ask you what you don't do. I ask you what you do-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Geraldo and Dan, hold on, guys. RIVERA: You and Sean are both-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. Wait. Geraldo, you answer. What do you do? RIVERA: -- the grandsons or the great grandsons of the immigrants. Italian immigrants, Irish immigrants, they were slandered just like you are slandering these people. (CROSSTALK) BONGINO: Paula, my wife Paula is an immigrant. RIVERA: -- with these -- and they have diseases. BONGINO: I know. RIVERA: They are bringing disease. Read the newspapers in the middle of the 19th century. The Irish who bring in diseases. The Italians are bringing diseases. BONGINO: You're not answering the question. RIVERA: This is a slander. (CROSSTALK) BONGINO: What won't you answer the question, Geraldo? HANNITY: Geraldo, you're not answering. RIVERA: These are images of people who are seeking a better life. What you don't do is you don't-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What do you do? RIVERA: -- put 6,000-- BONGINO: You're not -- what do you do? RIVERA: (Inaudible) that's at the border. HANNITY: What do you do when they are throwing rocks and bottles at our agents? BONGINO: Nobody is saying-- RIVERA: All right. Here's what you do. You send Spanish-speaking ambassadors to the crowd. You explain to them that they are not going to be able to rush the border. (CROSSTALK) BONGINO: To take a rock in their face? Are you serious? RIVERA: You explained to them the facts of-- BONGINO: Geraldo, you're not serious. RIVERA: -- the reality of what's happening. HANNITY: There's hundreds of-- RIVERA: This is the stain-- HANNITY: All right. Hold on. RIVERA: This is a stain on the Trump presidency that it would be very difficult to eradicate. HANNITY: Geraldo, there are hundreds charging the border and charging at police. What if its thousands? What to do you then? That's an important question you need to answer. RIVERA: Are you going to believe those words, are you going to believe your own lying eyes-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You are going to talk to them? RIVERA: -- when you look at the video and you see the composition of this crowd? HANNITY: Men-- RIVERA: This is a benign suffering civilian crowd. HANNITY: Rocks, there we go. There's the rocks being thrown. RIVERA: The three scenes of the rocks being thrown. What about the scenes of them living in squalor in the athletic fields where they are left and they are-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Do it legally, Geraldo. RIVERA: -- are begging for food and overflowing toilets and the most inhumane conditions. (CROSSTALK) BONGINO: So why not claim asylum? Why not claim asylum? RIVERA: Where -- where is USA? BONGINO: Why throw a rock in the face of a border patrol agent? RIVERA: That rock that-- BONGINO: No, no. Geraldo, no, no, no. You still haven't answered the question. RIVERA: In the tidal waves-- BONGINO: You are suggesting that a Spanish translator-- (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: You do it with humanity, Dan. You do it with humanity and compassion. Humanity and compassion. HANNITY: All right. I got to -- hey, Geraldo. BONGINO: Then don't throw rocks in their face. HANNITY: Let me just say this, if we had the wall. Nobody would get hurt on either side. And we have the door. (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: I agree. Let's build it. Build the wall. HANNITY: Build a wall. All right. We can be on agreement. Build a wall. Up next, hypocrisy and fake news CNN. This is -- they've lost it. It's bad. Joe Concha is going to break it all down. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. As I mention in our opening monologue tonight, CNN fired their contributor Marc Lamont Hill for his outrageous comments about Israel. But it's only the latest example of insanity at the so-called facts first network. Here are some more of their hysterical, insane, crazy, biased coverage. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRIAN STELTER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: Is this president trying to impersonate Hugo Chavez? Recep Tayyip Erdogan? Vladimir Putin? JAMES CLAPPER, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: What a great case officer Vladimir Putin is. He knows how to handle an asset and that's what he is doing with the president. PHILIP MUDD, CNN COUNTERTERRORISM ANALYST: When do we see almost a shadow government come out and say, we cannot side with the government? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why is President Trump showing sympathy for white nationalist and other hate groups? MUDD: What does that tell you in an America that one -- that in one generation called you (muted), what does that tell you, Don? ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: We can show you his words have absolutely emboldened white supremacists. STELTER: Sixteen tweets to start the new year, some of them deeply disturbing. These are the messages from a person who is not well from a leader who is not fit for office. VAN JONES, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: This president is a snowflake. OK? Everything he says, they are mean to me and they don't like me, and I just don't understand that it is not fair. This was a white lash. This was a white lash against a changing country. It was a white lash against a black president in part. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Now we now bring in Joe Concha, media reporter for The Hill. And I guess my favorite in all of that is Van Jones who are maybe, Dr. Humpty Dumpty giving his diagnosis. JOE CONCHA, MEDIA REPORTER, THE HILL: Yes. I don't think we should ever really be giving somebody who is married to a doctor. You probably don't want to play a doctor on TV when you are basically doing a diagnosis from a far. Yes. That's never a good look. Look, obviously, Marc Lamont Hill, Sean, had to be fired in this situation. You mentioned it before. Free Palestine from the river to the sea. That's right out of Hamas script that calls for the annihilation of Israel. No question about it. I'm not big on firings and the sort of situations but this was unavoidable. But here's the thing. CNN has somewhere to around 40 to 50 contributors underneath their umbrella. So, firing Marc Lamont Hill isn't that hard of a thing to do because you have three, four dozen other people you can just plug in there. The other bigger names that you show during that montage, people that are on the air more of people that are anchors on that network or host shows. There are a lot harder to fire in this situation. I'm not calling for them to be fired. Because look, if we are to fire every single person that called the president a racist or a fascist or questioned his mental health on national television, 90 percent of this industry-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me ask you this. CONCHA: Yes. HANNITY: I am arguing, it's literally every -- almost every second of every minute of every hour of every day. Stormy, Stormy, Stormy. Russia, Russia, Russia. S-hole, s-hole, s-hole. Michael Avenatti TV. It's-- (CROSSTALK) CONCHA: Not anymore. HANNITY: There is no -- they say they are reporters. I'm a talk show host. I do some objective reporting, investigative reporting. I do a lot of opinion. I'm the whole newspaper. But they say they're news. They're dishonest. CONCHA: Then that's the thing, right. I mean, if we are talking about say, a Don Lemon, for example, he is called an anchor on the network. He is somebody who gives opinions. It gets confusing after a while. Same thing with Anderson Cooper or Chris Cuomo. They are anchors; therefore, they should be on there asking questions and gathering information. Or Jim Acosta at White House briefings asking questions and gathering information. Instead, all these people share their innermost feelings on certain topics. Their emotions. They debate in certain situations and that's not what the job is. And I think that's where mistrust comes to within people watching at home and watching the media. They don't know who the anchors are from the opinion people from the pundits anymore. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They all have opinion. CONCHA: And then when they hear a-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I don't see any of these people-- CONCHA: -- when they hear a side being given, then they don't know what to conclude from that because it sounds like you're trying to draw the viewer to a conclusion instead of letting them draw their own conclusion. Ad I think that's a big problem in our industry right now. No question. HANNITY: Listen, I admit I'm a talk show host. We sometimes do straight news. We sometimes do opinion, sometimes do investigative reporting. But we tell you we do it all. They say they do one thing. They don't. Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh have been phenomenal this week on radio. Here is part of Rush coming up next. HANNITY: All right. So, amidst all of the hysteria today over a Michael Cohen's guilty plea. Rush Limbaugh had a very sobering perspective on the big picture. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: We have been lied to our ourselves. We have been misled, we have been misdirected by a willing accomplice drive by media working with Robert Mueller and his staff of anti-Trump lawyers and the entire Democratic Party combined with the Washington establishment to create in the minds of the American people a story that didn't happen, couldn't happen, nobody can ever prove it happened. Where is the tampering of votes? Where is the meetings? Where is the strategy? Where is the evidence that Trump got together with Russians to sabotage the Hillary campaign, which is what everybody has been led to believe happened here? Robert Mueller has nothing because there is nothing on what everybody in this country has been misled to believe for the past two years. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Bingo. Right on the money. We will always be fair and balanced. We are not the destroy-Trump media. Hope you check out my radio show. It's on hannity.com, 3:00 to 6:00 every afternoon. And let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Laura Ingraham -- I didn't get my announcement tonight and then there's a reason but it's all good, it's coming. Load-Date: November 30, 2018 End of Document Michael Cohen Has Pleaded Guilty to Lying to Congress where Trump Says He is a Weak Person Trying to Get a Reduced Sentence; An Anti-Semitic Hiding in Plain Sight as Linda Sarsour Spills Hate and Lies across the Media; Anti-Defamation League Criticizes Activist Linda Sarsour; Health Problems of Migrant Caravan Members Examined; MS-13 Member Arrested as Part of Migrant Caravan; President Trump Calls Off Meeting with Russian President Putin; President Trump to Meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 29, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7920 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, John Roberts Guests: Sol Wisenberg, James Trusty, Michael Turner, John Solomon, Ariel Gold, Michelle Malkin, Jane Orient, Jay Lanham, Michael Pillsbury, Daniel Hoffman Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Bingo. Right on the money. We will always be fair and balanced. We are not the destroy-Trump media. Hope you check out my radio show. It's on hannity.com, 3:00 to 6:00 every afternoon. And let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Laura Ingraham -- I didn't get my announcement tonight and then there's a reason but it's all good, it's coming. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: This is the longest tease ever. You are the master of the never ending tease. HANNITY: No, it is not on done purpose. I honestly just want to get a camera issue or tell -- INGRAHAM: -- it's tomorrow. Without tomorrow it's going to get -- it's like Christmas. Oh, no, we couldn't get to it tonight. Monday, tune in -- HANNITY: I am so nice to you. Why are you being so mean to me every night? INGRAHAM: Because I have known you for 20 years and I know all your little tricks and your teases -- HANNITY: It's not -- this is not a trick. I am really excited about the announcement. I'll tell you, it has to do with Fox Nation and my part in it and I am excited about. INGRAHAM: I think it's great that you are going in costume on Fox Nation. We have all been waiting for the big reveal. HANNITY: Good grief. God help us. Take over the show. INGRAHAM: All right, Hannity. Great show as always. I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington tonight. And we have a Fox News Alert. The president is speaking out about his former lawyer, Michael Cohen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: He was convicted with a fairly long term sentence on things totally unrelated to the Trump organization, having to do with mortgages and having to do with cheating the IRS perhaps, a lot of different things. He was given a fairly long jail sentence and he's a weak person and by being weak, unlike other people that you watch -- he's a weak person and what he's trying to do is get a reduced sentence, so he's lying about a project that everybody knew about. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I hate the fact that he has to shout over that Marine One, the big boy (ph) up there, he's screaming over that. Now, President Trump landed in Buenos Aires just moments ago ahead of the G20 summit. We're going to have a live report on the ground with the latest reaction from the White House on all of the Michael Cohen news. And also ahead, the liberal media slamming the president over supposed anti-Semitic ties, but what about the real anti-Israel hate coming from the left. You will not want to miss my ANGLE later on tonight. Plus, an admitted MS-13 gang member caught trying to sneak into the country with the caravan. Oh, what a shock. And new details about the dangerous diseases that migrants are bringing with them. The experts will weigh in. But first, the top story tonight, a liar caught lying. Today President Trump's former lawyer, Michael Cohen, pled guilty to special counsel Bob Mueller's team admitting he lied to congress about his involvement in efforts to build the Trump Tower complex in Moscow. Now, he claims his original story to the Senate Intel Committee that those efforts ended in January 2016 wasn't true and that they extended into even June of 2016. Now, given Cohen's history of mistruths, let's put it that way, the question is was he lying to Congress then or is he lying to Mueller now. But some have already made up their minds. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But I know that, no, this is not the first guilty plea for Cohen but this is the difference. This is the first plea deal with Mueller's prosecutors. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We've been asking a lot of questions about whether or not the special counsel would believe Michael Cohen, whether or not he would have any credibility with the special counsel. Well, clearly now we know he does. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I actually believe that Michael Cohen only lied in the service of Donald Trump. I think that otherwise in his life, he was a fairly up front guy, pretty reputable. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, putting Cohen's credibility aside, there is the other issue. What transgressions have been proven to be committed by the president at all? What does the White House think of all this? For answers, we go live to Fox News chief White House correspondent John Roberts. John, did you just fly in as well? Did you just land because you look so fresh like as a daisy. Look at you. You look great. JOHN ROBERTS, FOX NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, we landed about 12 hours ago after an overnight flight, so whatever sleep we got on the plane is whatever sleep we've had but, you know, we are in Buenos Aires. We are in Argentina and everybody is feeling good here. I tell you, one thing that we do know about this whole Michael Cohen plea deal is that it did not catch the president by surprise, Laura. Unlike the rest of the world that was taken by surprise, because the president was informed of the pending guilty plea last night by one of his outside counsel, Jane Raskin. She was told about it by the Department of Justice last evening. She immediately telephoned the president to talk about it. She also told Rudy Giuliani who talked with the president last night and Giuliani talked with him again this morning. So by the time that the president came out of the White House to go to that noisy helicopter that you alluded to this morning, he had plenty of time to digest the Cohen guilty plea and prepared to answer questions about the Trump Tower project in Moscow. Listen here. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We decided -- I decided ultimately not to do it. There would've been nothing wrong if I did do it. If I did do it, there would've been nothing wrong. That was mu business. So he is lying very simply to get a reduced sentence, OK. (END VIDEO CLIP) ROBERTS: We also found out today that the president did answer a question that Robert Mueller had about the Trump Tower Moscow project, what the president knew about it, who else he talked to about it. Fox News has told that the president did not put a date on when communications regarding the project ended for the simple reason that Mueller didn't ask him about it. The president's outside legal team said that there is no evidence of wrongdoing by the president. They also took aim at the special counsel for the timing of the announcement of the Cohen guilty plea. Rudy Giuliani saying, "Documents that the special counsel's office is using to show that Cohen lied to Congress were voluntarily disclosed by the Trump organization. It is hardly coincidental that the special counsel once again files a charge just as the president is leaving for a meeting with world leaders." You might remember that he indicted 11 Russians on conspiracy to try to throw the election just before the president went to meet with Putin, who you see there, in Helsinki. "BuzzFeed" tonight also has an interesting story that the plan with Trump Tower was for Putin to be given a $50 million penthouse in Trump Tower Moscow as an enticement to sell the other apartments to Russian oligarchs. Kind of his idea of come live where Vladimir Putin lives. I've contacted a source close to the president who have spoken with him about that article. The president thinks that the story is nuts, that it would be a stupid idea to sell or to give rather a $50 million penthouse apartment to Vladimir Putin and that the president never heard about that idea. Also, Laura, a little secret here. You alluded to the helicopter. That is the sound of the auxiliary power unit which the White House could ask the military to turn off but it also serves as a convenient foil for the president who says I can't hear the question. There is a noisy helicopter behind me. INGRAHAM: I remember when President Reagan, we were on the lawn watching him leave ans he would just go -- and he would wave. It was always the wave, wave off. And it was that twinkle in his eye. ROBERTS: That was usually when Sam Donaldson asked a question and then Reagan would go "What?" INGRAHAM: Oh, yes, I can't hear you. Waters running. Blades moving. John, do you think at this point, much of what we are hearing from the Mueller team is all that surprising to the Trump legal team? I mean, people forget they have been dealing with these issues for months and months and months. They have been going around and round with Mueller on all these questions. ROBERTS: And don't forget that the president's legal team had a joint defense agreement with Michael Cohen's team before he entered the first guilty plea deal and that was canceled. They also have a joint defense agreement with Paul Manafort, still is in existence to this day. So, they are getting information about what Mueller has been asking Michael Cohen and what they've been asking Manafort. They're also getting some information about what Mueller has been asking Jerome Corsi. So, I don't think any of this is surprising to them. But I think that perhaps the second guilty plea might have been a little bit of a surprise yesterday when it was relayed to Jane Raskin by the Department of Justice, but the president was fully prepared for it this morning when it came out. A lot of people thought that he was blindsided. He was not in fact. INGRAHAM: He doesn't seemed fazed at all about it this morning. John, thanks so much. Great reporting tonight. Get some sleep. Now, what shouldn't be lost on you, in any of the viewers, is that the special counsel's original mandate was to find out what Russia did to influence the 2016 election. Now today, there still been no evidence presented by the Mueller team that any criminal collusion occurred between Trump folks and the Russian government. So perhaps the (inaudible) in class can breathe a little bit before we make any grand declarations about where this investigation is actually going. But for more insight, we put together a super panel of experts who are going to provide you with all the answers you need to know. Sol Wisenberg, former deputy independent counsel during Whitewater investigation, James Trusty, former DOJ attorney in the criminal division, and here with me in studio, House intel member Michael Turner and John Solomon, investigative reporter and opinion contributor of "The Hill." Let's start with you congressman. Where we are right now is seems like leaps and bounds beyond what we were led to believe when this entire thing kicked off, when Jeff Sessions recuses, Rosenstein steps in. It seems to have a real meltdown, decides got to appoint a special counsel. And here we all this time later with like a 72-year-old guy, you know, looks like he might, you know, get charged with something or Roger Stone kicking around and now we have this deal with Michael Cohen. REP. MICHAEL TURNER (R), OHIO: Well, you have an excellent point about what the original mandate was of the special counsel. And when the news first broke, it looked like it was, you know, an exciting story about Michael Cohen and being, you know, coming forward with a guilty plea about lying. But upon further investigation, what is so notable here is that in the written statement that he actually gave to the Senate, he made a statement that he was not involved in collusion with Russia, the Russian federation, or involved in any way in any hacking. That is not a statement that he pled guilty today or that the Mueller team or special counsel alleged was false. So, here you have a statement that actually relates to the mandate of the investigation and that's not the subject matter of an alleged lie at this point. And you have that the investigation and the marching in of the guilty plea over a failed real estate deal. Not the same thing. Not what we're looking for. If the special counsel had information that this was a false statement from Michael Cohen, you would've expected that would've been part of the guilty plea today. INGRAHAM: Sol, the false statement, 187 USC 1001. It's a classic go to charge in these types of cases. You don't lie. You don't tell lies to a prosecutor. You get in big trouble when you do. But it's also a tool, the cynics would say. People don't want to be in jail for the next 60 years and you get your sentence reduced if you, well, may be, I guess I wasn't completely forthcoming on that. How do you see this Michael Cohen announcement today fitting into this overall narrative? SOL WISENBERG, FORMER DEPUTY INDEPENDENT COUNSEL: If you actually look, Laura, at the plea agreement and at the criminal information, there is absolutely nothing that implicates President Trump in a crime. There's absolutely nothing in there that says where Michael Cohen says President Trump talked with me about the lie I was going to tell to Congress. We conspired. We talked about it. There is nothing whatsoever. So, if we really confine ourselves to the actual law and not a bunch of babble that you here all day on television, let's just look at the actual documents. It doesn't implicate President Trump in any way, which brings up the question of why he was so angry if he had been told about this and why he came out and said Cohen is nothing but a liar. He's lying. All Cohen said is that I lied to Congress. He didn't say that President Trump helped me lie. So, there could be all kinds of things that Mueller is keeping quiet from us that we don't know about that Cohen has told him. That's possible. But that's the realm of speculation. Let's talk about reality, and reality is this is a nothing burger. INGRAHAM: But John Solomon, to listen to congressman on the other side of the aisle today, Eric Swalwell, one of our favorites. I want you to listen to what he said about where this is all going. JOHN SOLOMON, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT, THE HILL: All right. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ERIC SWALWELL (D), CALIFORNIA: I believe they are obstructing the collusion and again this is where Donald Trump will say, oh, they are just trying, you know, to bring him up on lies. Well, only guilty people lie and what they are trying to protect is that the president, his family, his businesses and his campaign sought dirt on Hillary Clinton from the Russians and sought to do a big deal in Moscow at the time of the campaign. And when they were confronted about it, they lied. Where I come from, that's collusion. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: John. SOLOMON: I don't know where he comes from but it isn't collusion. Let's take a look at what happened today. The president's attorney admitted to lying about a business deal that would've been perfectly legal, may be stupid, but perfectly legal if it went through. He doesn't implicate the president at all. And I think more importantly, people are missing the significance of why this happened today. Bob Mueller waited in wait to see what the president would say in his answers to see if he could catch him in a perjury trap. He didn't. The president answered in a way that was consistent with the evidence, so he's cleaning up now and finishing up this Cohen investigation. That's what went on today. INGRAHAM: Now, James, how would you as a prosecutor in the criminal division treat a witness like Cohen who's obviously -- he was trading on the president's name. He strikes me as somebody who loved being close to power and he knew Trump, obviously. Helped him, as the president said, a big favor years ago. How do you treat him given his admitted slipperiness with the truth and facts? JAMES TRUSTY, FORMER DOJ ATTORNEY: Right. Well, look, you have to go into it knowing that you're kind of engaging in snake wrestling. And as much as a private attorney as the defense attorney, I would relish the idea of cross-examining this guy. I mean, he's a lawyer who betrayed his client, who said he would take a bullet, didn't mean that, has now admitted criminal culpability that is his own culpability and now he's trying to get a break from the judge. So, there are a million very stock great things you can cross-examine on but I have to say some of the prosecutors on that team know their way around the courthouse. You know, Greg Andres would put mobsters on the stand who had a lot of baggage too. So they are not blind to the fact that this guy is kind of a horrible character are not instantly likable by many outside his family. So they're going to be looking to corroborate. They're going to be saying you have to corroborate. INGRAHAM: And James they have -- he has tapes, right? We have forgotten that he has tape recordings. He has tape recordings apparently. TRUSTY: Well, that's the thing. If he has either documents -- but if he has e-mails, documents, some powerful corroboration, you might actually be able to overcome all of the initial dislike and more importantly disbelief of Michael Cohen that you are going to have as a juror. INGRAHAM: it won't play. But even they have Jake Tapper saying -- where's the collusion with the president? And this is all interesting, But again, we don't know completely what they have. We don't know yet. Congressman, I want to talk for a moment about what happened today with Comey because he doesn't like this idea of coming in and talking to you guys in closed session. He sent a tweet, "Today my legal team filed court papers to try to get transparency from House Republicans. Let the American people watch." So then he an get that -- what did he say, nauseated. He was nauseous, it makes me nauseous. So that made me nauseous to see, but of course, you guys are the ones who have a problem with transparency, that's rich coming from Comey. TURNER: Right. This is not about transparency. It's about stall tactics and stall tactics only. During that lure of the incoming Democratic chairman of the committee said, according to Bloomberg today, that this is about trying to pump (ph) this over so that perhaps the subpoena can be averted. The reality is that Comey is free in the public to say whatever statement that he wants to make and he doesn't get to choose under which forum congress calls him forward. INGRAHAM: So, what's going to happen next? I mean they are -- TURNER: Hopefully the court process will work quickly and -- INGRAHAM: Fast? You guys got what, five minutes left in the majority. TURNER: -- that there will not be, you know, an impediment to this (inaudible) subpoena, from Congress should be a subpoena that stands and he should come forward and testify. INGRAHAM: Sol, incoming House Judiciary chair Nadler said the following today, "Anyone who still believes that this is a witch hunt must now face the reality that the investigation appears to be closing in on the president." Sol, given what we know now, what about that statement? WEISENBERG: Well, number one, I never thought it was a witch hunt, but there is certainly nothing again in the official papers that have been released that we look at which is how Mueller explains things to people, that would indicate that they are closing in on the president. I would like to make another point about Cohen. Cohen's case has already been -- his Mueller case has already been reassigned to the New York judge who handled his original case. Now, the sentencing range in this case in New York was with the southern district, was 46 to 57 months. It could be as high as 63 months. By consolidating these for sentencing, he has the potential to actually get probation because Mueller is giving him a 5K1 for cooperation which is a very significant thing. And so, they are consolidated for sentencing. That judge in the New York case in the southern district case will sentence together. There's a whole grouping concept in the guidelines, and at the end of the day can say, wow, your cooperation with Mueller was so great, you are going all the way down to probation. Now, his attorneys could argue for that anyway but when you have a 5K1 from the government, it's a huge thing. So, keep your eye on that. INGRAHAM: Well, we are working on booking him so thank you. We prefer to interview him in studio and not in jail, so thank you so much. All right guys, thanks so much. The left is quick to tag the president as being now anti- Semitic. It's the most ridiculous thing ever, of course no evidence at all. But they have blinders on when it comes to some of the most vile elements of anti-Israel hate in their own party. My ANGLE and reaction from Michelle Malkin, next. INGRAHAM: Anti-Semitism hiding in plain sight. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. During the next several months, we at THE INGRAHAM ANGLE are going to devote a significant amount of time unpacking the most important political and cultural stories of the day. Our aim is that these investigations help you better understand the people and facts behind critical challenges facing you, your family, and our country. Tonight we examine the pernicious influence in American politics of this woman, Linda Sarsour. A woman described by "The New York Times" very affectionately as a home girl in a hijab. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LINDA SARSOUR, ACTIVIST: I am a Palestinian Muslim-American activist born and raised in Brooklyn and every Islamophobe's worst nightmare. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Sponsored by Mercedes. Well, she is a nightmare, period. A relentless self-promoter, she represents so much that is hideous. Now, check out this attack on the Trump administration where Sarsour actually invokes jihad. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARSOUR: I hope that we, when we stand up to those who oppress our communities that Allah accepts from us, that is a form of jihad that we are struggling against tyrants and rulers not only abroad in the Middle East or in the other side of the world, but here in these United States of America were you have fascist and white supremacists and islamaphobes reigning in the White House. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Reigning in the White House. She is also extremely subtle. Now, as a co-founder of the anti-Trump Woman's March in January 2017, Sarsour became a near constant fixture in the media, spewing her hate and her lies every where. Now, wherever there is a camera, you will find her trying to hog it as she did in the Kavanaugh confirmation fight even. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARSOUR: We are! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: We are! SARSOUR: About to! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: About to! SARSOUR: March! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: March! SARSOUR: We need! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: We need! SARSOUR: Everyone! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: Everyone! SARSOUR: To pay! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: To pay! SARSOUR: Attention! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: Attention! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And a bad chanter. She was arrested during the hearings themselves but so were a lot of other leftist agitators. She wore it as a badge of honor. Yet Sarsour who claims to stand for all these oppressed people all over the world and has even done some fund-raising for victims of anti-Jewish violence is really an anti-Semite herself hiding in plain sight. Sarsour and two other founders of the Women's March, Tamika Malory and Carmen Perez, have all appeared at events sponsored by the (inaudible) anti-Semitic organization the Nation of Islam, including by the way, one where Farrakhan himself said the Jews are my enemies. Now, any association whatsoever with Farrakhan is the ultimate tell regarding someone's true motives. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LOUIS FARRAKHAN, LEADER, NATION OF ISLAM: When they talk about Farrakhan, call me a hater, you know what they do, call me an anti-Semite. Stop it. I am anti-termite. The Jews don't like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that's a great name. Hitler was a very great man. And Farrakhan, by God's grace, has pulled the cover off of that satanic Jew. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Of course, a perfunctory condemnation of anti-Semitism or other forms of bigotry was issued by Sarsour and her cohorts, but they have yet to condemn Farrakhan himself. Last spring, the Women's March Organization cited the difficult and often painful work of intersectional movement building, hence why they had to work with him. And instead of a strong unequivocal condemnation of the Nation of Islam founder, they wrote "Minister Farrakhan's statements about the Jewish, queer, and trans people are not aligned with the Women's March Unity Principles." Oh, that's tough. But now, to quote another well-known anti- Semite, the chickens are coming home to roost. The main founder of a Woman's March, Teresa Shook, wants the Sarsour, Mallory, Perez trio to step aside. Even that nasty Trump hater, Alyssa Milano, was less than charmed. She is threatening to boycott the next Women's March coming up in just a couple months unless Sarsour and company leave the organization. My question is, what took them so long? Sarsour of course feigned an apology but she is not backing down from her harsh attacks on Jews. Just a few weeks ago on Facebook, she slammed folks who masquerade as progressives but always choose their allegiance to Israel over their commitment to democracy and free speech. Now the phrase "allegiance to Israel" is a favorite among the anti-Semitic set. To his credit, CNN's Jake Tapper was all over Sarsour last spring after the Women's March wished a cop killer fugitive who fled to Cuba, a happy birthday. The venomous Sarsour responded with this. "Jake Tapper joins the ranks of the alt-right to target me online." Aside from Tapper's twitter takedown, media outlets including CNN were responsible for elevating Sarsour to cult like status. So desperate to smash all things Trump, the left was only too happy to offer this incendiary figure a platform to organize. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARSOUR: We're coming back out and we're announcing today to the American people to join us around the country and in Washington, D.C., on January 19, 2019. We are outraged that we are talking about and putting victims on trial and talking about Dr. Ford in the way in which she was treated at that hearing. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Unreal. But today, some good news. CNN dumped contributor Marc Lamont Hill after he delivered a speech at the U.N. that seem to call for wiping the state of Israel off the map. Lamont Hill's association with the network was especially ironic given the network's new series at CNN about the rise of anti-Semitism here and abroad. Sarsour owes her public profile to a press that has gone out of its way to cover for her rather than actually cover her true motives and allegiances. They made excuses for Sarsour because she's a woman, she's Muslim, and she's a harsh critic of the president. Now they are paying the price with further erosion in their own credibility. And that's The ANGLE. Joining me now with reaction, conservative commentator Michelle Malkin and Code Pink's national co-director Ariel Gold. All right, Ariel, now you say that Linda Sarsour is an ally of the Jewish people. Then why would Jewish- Americans like Jonathan Greenblatt, he's the head of the Anti-Defamation League, have a real problem with their statements? ARIEL GOLD, COD-DIRECTOR, CODE PINK: It is so disgraceful that Jonathan Greenblatt is spending his time going after people who are our real allies come. After the attack on Jewish cemeteries, Linda Sarsour raised over $100,000. After the Pittsburgh massacre, she raised over $200,000. Why are people trying to drive wedges between Muslim and Jewish partnership? We have no greater ally in the Jewish community in this time where anti- Semitism is dangerously on the rise than Linda Sarsour. INGRAHAM: So the Anti-Defamation League doesn't know what anti-Semitism is? GOLD: The Anti-Defamation League is completely out of line in this case. And they are on the wrong track. They are on a witch hunt against Linda Sarsour for being a strong Palestinian Muslim woman rather than dealing with the fact that we have white nationalism in the Senate, in the House, and in the White House. INGRAHAM: Wait a second. We have white nationalism in the Senate? Name three white nationalist senators. GOLD: What about Sean (ph) King? INGRAHAM: Why is he a white nationalist? In the U.S. Senate? Sean (ph) King? GOLD: In the House. INGRAHAM: He is an activist for Black Lives Matter. GOLD: Sorry, I might be referring to -- INGRAHAM: That's all right. I don't know what you're getting at. MICHELLE MALKIN, CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR: Let me rescue her. INGRAHAM: Let's talk about this, Michelle. I think that sadly when we have these very emotional appeals by people like Linda Sarsour, she's an interesting figure. She's very captivating in many ways, the way she talks. She's a leftist. She hates Trump. Woman, Muslim. And so I think a lot of people will give her a lot of slack for that reason. And yet if conservatives say one thing out of line, you have "Media Matters," little people in their underwear in the basement writing about it, you've got all these -- boycott, boycott. But someone like Linda Sarsour gets Mercedes sponsoring her interviews. Shocking. MALKIN: Yes. Right. Well, she has bamboozled a lot of people, and she is a master at using the Islamic technique of taqiyya, which is lying to promote the Islamic caliphate and Sharia law. And I just want to give credit to all of the outspoken critics of Sharia out there who have been squelched by social media and who have been marginalized by the elites in the mainstream media, people like Laura Loomer who is responsible for confronting those Women's March organizers who marched into one of these Politicon conferences in L.A. and was the one who disrupted it to call Alyssa Milano to the carpet. And it wasn't until that happened that these Women's March leaders finally acknowledged the toxic anti-Semitism that lies at the intersection of the extreme left and radical Islam. There is a type of Sharia, an American Sharia, a Silicon Valley Sharia that seeks to silence those voices. And I think that Ariel Gold in particular has a lot of gall talking about repairing relationships with people when Ariel Gold and Code Pink itself has been so much responsible for the kind of toxic anti-Semitism and hatred of Israel that we are seeing. In fact, Ariel Gold has uttered the same phrase that Marc Lamont Hill got fired for, from the river to the sea, which is not just a dog whistle. It is a blatant call. It is the most famous call for the extermination of the state of Israel. INGRAHAM: Let's let Ariel respond. GOLD: First of all, I meant to say Steve king in the House who is supporting -- supports white nationalists. But from the river to the sea, Marc Lamont Hill was clear that what he was discussing is the Palestinians deserve freedom, equality, and justice, just as Israels do. INGRAHAM: He didn't say that. GOLD: He did. He said that Palestinians inside Israel face over 60 laws of discrimination -- INGRAHAM: Ariel, why is he hanging out with Farrakhan? Would you hang out with Farrakhan? GOLD: Palestinians in the West Bank face military occupation. INGRAHAM: He called Jews termites. MALKIN: You're a liar. She's a liar. GOLD: Palestinians in Gaza are faced with -- INGRAHAM: Ariel, Ariel, Ariel. MALKIN: This is taqiyya. GOLD: -- has become unlivable. INGRAHAM: Emoting in the way of talking doesn't make you any more credible. GOLD: Palestinians deserve the same quality and rights that Israelis do. INGRAHAM: Ariel, here is your problem. You have got an avowed, I'm sorry, an avowed anti-Semite in Farrakhan. Do you disagree with that? GOLD: I have no love for Farrakhan. INGRAHAM: So why is the head of the Women's March posing with him, and why are the trio of fools at the Women's March showing up at his Nation of Islam conferences? Why? GOLD: Linda Sarsour shows up for Jews. Nobody showed up after the Pittsburgh massacre -- INGRAHAM: Why is she going to Farrakhan's conference? You have no answer for this, Ariel. And I'm telling you, the FOX viewers are watching. You look like a wonderful person. GOLD: And Linda Sarsour has been very, very clear that she does not support Farrakhan's anti-women hatred -- INGRAHAM: But if Donald Trump showed up at his -- then don't go to his conference. GOLD: -- anti-LGBTQ hatred, and anti-Semitism. INGRAHAM: He wants to wipe Israel off the face of the map, and you've got these people standing side-by-side with him. That is shameful. The man is an old guy now, but he is a shameful anti-Semite. He's been that his whole life, and he ridicules all of these groups that you are in favor of. He goes after the LGBT community. He ridicules women. Farrakhan does that. I want to go back to Michelle because I'm very -- the rise of anti- Semitism. Alan Dershowitz talked about this today, Michelle, on my radio show, specifically CNN -- what's that? We don't have time to go that, unfortunately. But guys, I'm sorry. We could do this for an hour, and both of you are great guests. I didn't mean to get too hot on this, but you are both great guests to come on. It's a very important topic. Coming up, what is lurking inside the caravan at our southern border? You are going to want to hear what Homeland Security and our own reporters just found out, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If we let the trash accumulate, we will become infected more than we already are. Many of us are already infected with cough, flu and all that. If we let the trash accumulate later, it will become a risk for the children and for all of us here. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: A Honduran migrant raising red flags about the very caravan that he's part of. This is the Tijuana health department, and they are telling FOX News exclusively that more than a third, that's nearly 2,300 of the migrants who have set up camp in the border town, are being treated for health issues ranging from respiratory infections to TB, and a few even with HIV. Joining me is now Dr. Jane Orient, executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. Dr. Orient, now, you say that despite claims to the contrary, the medical screening are not even close to being sufficient here. Explain. DR. JANE ORIENT, DIRECTOR, AMERICAN PHYSICIANS ASSOCIATION: Oh, I think that they are not. And I think that one of the most serious problems is tuberculosis. Almost all of the tuberculosis that we have in the U.S. now occurs in foreign-born citizens, and the threat of this multiple drug resistance to TB or even extremely drug- resistant TB is very great. And there's not really a simple way of ruling this out. We really need to do chest x-rays. And even if a person has latent TB now, it can break down and become active at any point. This could be transmitted on the bus. It can be transmitted very easily. And it can be extremely difficult to control. INGRAHAM: And who ends up picking up the bill here? The American taxpayers. And I got an email today from a very dear friend of mine who said that one of his relatives is a public school teacher in the Washington, D.C., area, and she says kids are showing up every day in class with no proof of birth, no proof of shots, immunization, or anything. And they are coming in with all sorts of maladies. And each time one of them sneezes, half the class goes sick for a week. That might be a slight exaggeration. But I've heard this time and again, Dr. Orient, from teachers who are reporting that the kids -- and again, it's not the kids' fault. Your heart breaks for them. But the kids are coming in with either diseases or serious respiratory infections that are horrifically contagious. And this has just got to change. It's not fair to the American people. It is not fair to the Tijuana folks either. What's your one suggestion that has to be implemented for this all to stop? ORIENT: I think that we need to go back to the policies we had when we had immigration, great waves of immigration from Europe where people went to Ellis Island. They were quarantined for a time to make sure they weren't incubating a serious disease, and they had medical examinations, and they had a good medical history and testing for things that could be a threat. Otherwise we could have diseases spread throughout the country that could be killing our children, as possibly that outbreak of respiratory diseases did in 2014, perhaps not coincidentally when we are resettling Central American children all over the U.S. INGRAHAM: Yes, well, and I think again we have hepatitis outbreaks that are being feared now, and all the people who want to keep bringing people into the country who are camped out in places like Tijuana, maybe they should all just come and live in their houses for a while. But that would never happen. Doctor, thanks so much. There's more alarming news about just who is inside the caravan. The president has warned that members of the violent MS-13 gang are illegally crossing our borders. And now we have proof. Border Patrol just arrested this man, Jose Villalobos-Jobel, he's a self-proclaimed member of MS-13, and he told agents he was traveling with a large group from Central America and he planned to claim asylum. Strength in numbers. And here now Jay Lanham, executive director of the Northern Virginia Regional Gang Task Force. Jay, you are part of a taskforce here in northern Virginia that deals with this issue, gang activity. Does any of this surprise you? JAY LANHAM, NORTHERN VIRGINIA GANG TASK FORCE: Not a bit. Gang members are continuously trying to cross the border. What better way to get across the border than to covertly intermingle yourself with a large group like this caravan and just try to come across the border unnoticed. INGRAHAM: A lot of them have been already deported, and then they make their way back into a large group of people. And again, the emotion of all of it is being played on the left in the United States. It's a very emotional -- you have the teargas and the women and children and the Hello Kitty backpacks. In a way, that's a perfect place for someone who wants to elude the Border Patrol just walking across the border illegally. Then being part of this large group, it's just a much better deal for them. LANHAM: Absolutely. We encounter many people who have come here and been deported. So I find it very shortsighted and naive by individuals to think that there are not gang members intermingled in with this caravan. The gangs need numbers to become the alpha dog in the area, and that's how they get their numbers. They bring them from Central America. INGRAHAM: This is a DHS statement to FOX News. "As President Trump and Secretary Nielsen warned, over the last few weeks we have identified over 600 known criminals and gang members in the caravan and we are now predictably seeing members of the caravan including criminals show up at the border claiming asylum. These threats are not only going to increase in light of illegitimate judicial injunctions and loopholes created by Congress." In the end Congress has got to do something about this. LANHAM: Absolutely. Anyone who comes across the border has to be vetted. They have to be thoroughly vetted for their background to see if they are criminal or they're in gangs. And a lot of them are going to come across the border undiscovered because records don't exist. You can't vet someone when you have no records or background on them. So if Congress doesn't come up with a way to stop these individuals from coming across the border, then we're going to continue to have gang members in our community. And to me, one gang member who comes here wanting to commit murder and violence is one gang member too many. INGRAHAM: People think gangs, they are in places like Chicago or maybe Baltimore, maybe some really bad areas in L.A. But that's not the case with MS-13. LANHAM: No. In fact, if you look at the northern Virginia area, this is the largest El Salvadoran population in the United States. So where does MS-13 come from? El Salvador. So we have a very large population of them here. INGRAHAM: Apparently some of the MS-13ers are now coming from Honduras as well. They brought the countries together in gang activity. LANHAM: Absolutely, all of Central America. INGRAHAM: All right, thank you so much for the insights. And coming up, Trump touching down in Buenos Aires just a few moments ago ahead of tomorrow's G20 summit. A high stakes meeting with China's President Xi is still on the books, but Trump is canceling his meeting with Putin. A former CIA Moscow station chief and the man who has the president's ear on China are here to tell you how this might play out. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think we are very close to doing something with China, but I don't know that I want to do it, because what we have right now is billions and billions of dollars coming into the United States in the form of tariffs or taxes. So I don't really know. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: President Trump arriving in Buenos Aires, Argentina, ahead of tomorrow's high stakes G20 summit. Trump shocking the Kremlin earlier today after abruptly nixing a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin over Russia's seizure of Ukrainian ships. And tensions running high between the U.S. and China as the trade war rages on. Trump's all- important meeting with President Xi could impact the balance of that relationship for many years to come. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I have been preparing for it all my life. It's not like oh, gee, I'm going to sit down and study. I know every ingredient. I know every stat. I know it better than anybody knows it, and my gut has always been right. And we are doing very well, and I will tell you, China very wants march wants to make a deal. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me now is someone who briefed President Trump yesterday on actually how to handle that meeting, Mike Pillsbury. He served in both the Reagan and Bush 41 administrations and is the author of the phenomenal book "The 100 Year Marathon." And joining me is former CIA Moscow station chief Daniel Hoffman. Let's start with you, Mike. I want to start by taking us inside your meeting with President Trump yesterday. You spent about an hour with the president. If you can share any thoughts about where the dynamic is today. MICHAEL PILLSBURY, BRIEFED TRUMP ON MEETING WITH XI: I think the president has very strong views on China. He first laid out a very detailed plan 18 years ago in eight pages of a book where he talked about the steps that America should take to stop what he called the fleecing of our country by China. So he doesn't need advice for me or, frankly, anybody else. He laid this out 18 years ago. He's added to it during the transition and since he became president. The problem we face I think really is on the Chinese side. They think they can use the same old tricks that worked against previous presidents against President Trump. And it's not working. And there is a chance they are going to offend him, so I don't expect a big breakthrough Saturday night. INGRAHAM: Yes, but you've got Steve Mnuchin, Larry Kudlow, who's, in my view, not as bad as Mnuchin on the trade issues. Steve Mnuchin is not with the president on the trade stuff. Who is? Bob Lighthizer, Peter Navarro, people like you, myself, and people who have been dealing with the China stuff in print and on radio and television for many, many years. But the Chinese have now even turned their boosters against them. Winston Lord and this group yesterday coming out with a report, a phenomenal report. Winston Lord, you can't believe it. And it's a report about how China has influence, and both Mike and you know about this, China has influenced America from the universities, the research, the forced technology transfers across the board. And we are going to go in and we're going to be like, you're going to behave better on opening up your markets and then we're going to take away the tariffs. China is like, let's go party the town. PILLSBURY: It's a stunning confession from our China -- INGRAHAM: The elites got it wrong for how long? PILLSBURY: Well, they basically go back 40 years when Dr. Kissinger opened the door. INGRAHAM: WTO, permanent trade status. PILLSBURY: These are left-wing China experts. These are not conservatives. So it's all the more refreshing, it's sort of a source of delight to people like me and Laura. INGRAHAM: But you've got to keep these tariffs, keep the pressure on, because it's working. Mike, the Putin deal is the big one. The president not meeting with Vladimir Putin. Dan, I'm sorry. I'm thinking of Dan. DANIEL HOFFMAN, FORMER CIA MOSCOW STATION CHIEF: Mike can probably answer that one pretty well, too. I'm good with that. INGRAHAM: Sorry. Hi, Dan Pillsbury, the brothers Pillsbury. So let's talk about what this means and how significant Russia's actions in Ukraine are. HOFFMAN: They're pretty significant. It's the height of hypocrisy even by the Kremlin's own lofty standards to fire upon and seize Ukrainian vessels and sailors, and violate international law and a bilateral treaty with Ukraine, and then blame it on Poroshenko's government. So there's no question in my view that we need to respond. We need to draw a line which the Obama administration failed to do on Ukraine when Putin annexed Crimea. INGRAHAM: Why cancel the meeting, though? Why not confront Putin on it? HOFFMAN: I will tell you that on this network I said that I thought the president should confront him publicly, deliver a strong rebuke. INGRAHAM: Why not? HOFFMAN: It doesn't mean that he can't do it without meeting Putin. I think it would have been pretty good optics if he'd actually been in a meeting with Vladimir Putin and called him out for Russia's aggression against Ukraine, which is under siege, land, air, sea, cyberspace. And we need to stand up for Ukraine's sovereignty, I think. INGRAHAM: So right now, the Russian psyche, I know you lived there. I lived there. They are a very proud people. This in a way helps Putin, does it not, at home, this nationalist spirit? We're taking on the Americans again. We're protecting the motherland. It's back to the old days. HOFFMAN: You got it right. Vladimir Putin wants to portray Russia as a besieged fortress which only he can defend. And when he portrays the west as Russia's enemy, it's not anything more than our values and our democracy which is what threatens him the most. And that's frankly why Ukraine is such a threat because it's a country on his border with a sizable Russian population and a commitment to democracy. INGRAHAM: What's going to happen tomorrow with Xi? PILLSBURY: There's going to be a private one-on-one session with just the translators where there is some flexibility perhaps for Xi to say something to President Trump. Then there is this canned meeting where, with time for interpretation, there's really less than an hour for each leader to speak. Probably the other six, including Peter Navarro, have to hold their silence. Then there's going to be the spin on Sunday for what happened. INGRAHAM: OK, so we are waiting for Sunday. This is like the Super Bowl for us. We are very excited, all these issues. Guys, thanks so much. Up next, the Last Bite. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. Outgoing House Speaker Paul Ryan is on his farewell tour, he and Cher. Today, his portrait was unveiled on the Hill. His reaction was so Ryan. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They say a picture is worth 1,000 words. Here is some pretty good reading, my friends. (APPLAUSE) REP. PAUL RYAN (R), SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES: I hadn't seen it yet. It looks like me. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: By the way, it costs $25,000. But don't worry. Private funding paid for it all. Can we have a magic marker and put the beard on? That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team, take it from here. Shannon, I'm so punchy tonight. Load-Date: November 30, 2018 End of Document Interview with Republican Strategist Roger Stone; Interview with Conservative Author Jerome Corsi; Jerome Corsi Shared How He Was Threatened, Ridiculed and Accused of so Many Things by the Mueller Team when He Did Not Utter the Words that They Want to Hear from Him Regarding the WikiLeaks' Julian Assange Getting the E-mails of John Podesta; The Department of Homeland Security Confirmed that a Man Who Was Arrested Recently at the Calexico Border Admitted to Being a Member of MS-13 Gang and Was Part of the Huge Caravan Trying to Cross the Border Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 28, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7453 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Andy McCarthy, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Morgan Ortagus Guests: Roger Stone, Jerome Corsi Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Great show as always. That kind of cracks me up every time you do it. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Me, too. I love it. HANNITY: I can't help it. It makes he laugh. Welcome to HANNITY. All right. Buckle up, this is a chockfull hour. Mueller's partisan witch hunt will soon come to an end but not before he makes a Hail Mary attempt to damage, destroy and disrupt the presidency of Donald Trump. Now, the screws are being turned on two Trump supports. Both of whom will join us tonight, Jerome Corsi and Roger Stone. Mueller is threatening them with what could ultimately be a life in prison sentence, laying perjury trap after perjury trap around every corner. He wants them to do what we call testi-lie against each over but there is no evidence, up in of any crime being committed. As a matter of fact, we'll have a full legal analyst tonight. This is now a rogue prosecutor who has lost any and all perspective, any objectivity and appears to be flailing around all in a desperate attempt to indict anyone who doesn't say what he wants them to say. People are now risking their lives in jail rather than tell lies they want told. Jerome Corsi and Roger Stone will be here and we'll talk to them and they will describe it in their own words. At this point, it is a full blown political prosecution. Tonight, we have a lot of big news to cover. We have a mini monologue tonight at the ongoing crisis at the southern border. Let's get started. Buckle up. A lot of information tonight. Time for our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: Let's start with this tonight. It is not a crime to get oppositional research against a political opponent. If it were, every politician would be in prison. But here we are, 560 long days into the Mueller witch hunt, Jerome Corsi, Roger Stone are in the hot seat for what? Trying to find dirt on Hillary Clinton? According to leaked special counsel documents, Mueller is investigating communication between Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi, including an e-mail on or about July 25, 2016, where, quote, person one, we know as Roger Stone, sent a message to Jerome Corsi with the subject line, "get to the founder of organization 1, aka, WikiLeaks, Julian Assange. Now, the body of the message read: Get to Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy in London, and get the pending WikiLeaks e-mails. They deal with foundation, allegedly. OK. So you heard that Assange, remember the DNC leak just before the convention, may have had more information, in this case, on the Clinton Foundation. And they want to know what he has. Roger clearly didn't know exactly what the e-mails contained in any way. In no way did he urge anyone to steal or hack the Clinton campaign or John Podesta e-mails. No evidence of that. Jerome Corsi flatly denies ever having contact with Julian Assange. In fact, Jerome Corsi voluntarily handed over his computer and cell phone, access to all of his e-mail and social media account, in order to cooperate fully with the special counsel's investigation. Now, that's how investigators gained access to the e-mail we just showed you. And now, Mueller's investigators, they are trying to get Jerome Corsi to testi-lie -- say what we want in other words -- and we'll go easy on you. If not, he is 72 years old, he may spend the rest of his life in jail. This is what we described as a perjury trap and ask Corsi to recount details about years-old email chains that he obviously didn't remember. Now, sadly, now, this is now my advice to everyone I know. Never talk to, in spite of your love of law enforcement, FBI, truth, investigations, don't talk to them ever, without the advice of legal counsel, because if you say the wrong thing, if you forget an e-mail from two years ago, clearly, you are in legal jeopardy and they will throw your ass in jail. Now, here you have an American citizen facing years in prison all because he received an e-mail from Roger Stone about a rumor and then forgot the e- mail existed two years earlier. Now, what have we now become as a country here? Is Jerome Corsi really a threat to the nation? Is this what Robert Mueller thinks is justice and what it looks like? You know, 17 investigators, multimillion dollar budgets, 600 days, 72-year-old man facing life in prison for receiving an e-mail and not remembering it? This is a disgrace tonight. This is a danger to every American tonight. Corsi is fighting back. He tweeted out, quote: In a memo to my attorneys, I have instructed Klayman and Gray to file with Acting AG Whitaker a criminal complaint against Mueller special counsel and the DOJ for prosecutorial misconduct in my case. Jerome Corsi turned down a deal from Robert Mueller to plead guilty to lying under oath. Not Russia collusion. And rightfully so, I think anyone could not remember an e-mail for two years ago. Neither did Roger Stone. So if trying to access information that people might have and you care about politics and you like one candidate over another, then almost every media outlet would then also be guilty. Let me give you an example. 2016, nearly every paper, news organization, they accessed WikiLeaks documents surrounding the stolen Podesta e-mails. Just like the DNC ones. And many, included the "New York Times", they actually provided direct links to the leaked e-mails inside of their articles. They did what WikiLeaks did. In a similar situation, let's take you back. A "Hannity" history lesson, 1971 is the year. "New York Times" published a top secret federal report of the Vietnam Wars. It's called the Pentagon Papers. The report was stolen, given to "The Times" by federal employees. Other news outlets subsequently published the papers. The Supreme Court upheld the media's right to publish the stolen "Pentagon Papers" in a 1971 ruling 6-3 majority ruling. Oh, well, they didn't steal, they didn't conspire to steal it. OK. It wasn't ruled wrong by the Supreme Court. There is the precedent. Now, if Roger Stone or the "New York Times" or anyone else wanted to find out if there really were smoking on the Podesta e-mails in 2015, that says it's not a crime unless they steal it. They hack or they conspire to steal it. Nobody has even suggested that happened. Now, this is important. With that said, according to leaked information surrounding the president's written answers to the special counsel, Roger Stone never informed Trump about the existence of the WikiLeaks e-mails. Roger Stone will join me in a few minutes. He told me on the radio show today Trump absolutely told the truth on that answer. But as I said earlier, looking for dirt on a political opponent is not a crime. That's exactly what Democrat, oh, Adam Schiff, the soon to be chairman of the House Intel Committee is caught on tape doing -- Robert Mueller, pay attention -- when he gladly fielded a call from somebody he believed to be a Russian claiming to have secret embarrassing information about Donald Trump. The call turned out to be a prank. But listen to Schiff desperately trying to dig up elicit Russian dirt on Donald Trump. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D-CA), RANKING MEMBER, HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: He was in Moscow in November 2013, he met with a journalist? CALER: Well, she's poor journalist. But anyway, she became famous because Putin is her godfather. SCHIFF: OK. Putin godfather, OK. CALLER: She also known as the person who provide support for oligarchs. She met with Trump and she brought him one of Russian girl celebrities, Olga Buzova, who's also known as person who has strange reputation. SCHIFF: Olga, and how do you spell her name? CALLER: Olga Buzova. SCHIFF: And what's the nature of the Kompromat? CALLER: Well, there were pictures of naked Trump. SCHIFF: And so Putin was made aware of the availability of the comprising material? CALLER: Yes, of course. SCHIFF: Thank you very much. We will be back in touch with you with the staff to make arrangements to obtain these materials for our committee and for the FBI. And I appreciate you reaching out to us. (END AUDIO CLIP) HANNITY: What's the nature of the kompromat? We'll be getting back to you. Now, is Mueller going to be launching an investigation into the biggest liar on television every day, Adam Schiff, on Russia collusion? What about Hillary Clinton, the single, biggest, most outrageous part of all of this and it is a national disgrace and a double standard. Yes, Russian collusion took place in 2016 election. In fact, the Clinton campaign spent millions of dollars funneled through a law firm to hire an op research firm, to hire a foreign national -- I thought that was wrong -- to dig up Russian lies on Donald Trump. Again, they funneled the money through a law firm, cover up their actions, hire a foreign agent to get in touch with his Moscow connections, write a report about Trump, a phony Russian dossier spread throughout the highest levels of our government, leaked to the American people. Why? Because they wanted to influence the election with Russian lies. And don't forget about the foreign governments that likely hacked Clinton's private server with the top secret classified information. That she acid washed, deleted, Bleach Bit, obstructing of justice investigators and real crimes violating the Espionage Act. And clear obstruction, there has never been a clearer case of obstruction of justice. She goes free. But Mueller, his merry band of Trump-hating sycophants, they don't care that Peter Strzok started this witch hunt and thought Hillary should win 100 million to zero. They haven't even literally begun to look in the direction of Hillary Clinton. And we have real evidence in that case, real crimes, real Russian interference, bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC, and those lies were rejected even by Christopher Steele himself when pressed in an interrogatory in Great Britain under the threat of perjury. Then it's used as the basis of a bulk of information to get FISA court warrants but they didn't tell the FISA judges, oh, Hillary paid for it all and none of it is verified. And Mueller's investigation, this is not about Russian collusion or they would have gone after Hillary about her Russian collusion. This is all about, has been about destroying Donald J. Trump, your duly elected president. Now, what else should we expect? Look at the team I've been warning about that Mueller put together -- 14 of 17 registered Democrats, 12 donating to Democratic campaigns including Hillary Clinton. One attorney, Jeannie Rhee, actually represented Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. Mueller's pit bull Andrew Weissmann attended Hillary Clinton's election night victory party in Brooklyn and, of course, supported Sally Yates' insubordination against the president. The conflicts of interest are too unbelievable to be true. Now, of course, you're not going to see this in the mainstream media, because they're just an extension and the cheerleaders for their friends on the special counsel and all things Democrat and pushing the single biggest, most absurd collusion theories you'll ever here. But while the left gleefully cheers for Team Mueller, American lives tonight are being ripped apart because without any underlying crime, the screws were turned, you will remember on General Flynn. He ran out of money. He lost his family home. He had to sell it, face bankruptcy over the mounting legal bills before pleading guilty to lying to investigators. The only problem is, the FBI never thought he lied. They probably threatened to go after his son. So, good father falls on the sword, forced to admit to something the FBI never thought he was guilty of. This was the thanks I guess you get for serving your country for 30 years. Low level volunteer, campaign adviser George Papadopoulos also coerced into pleading guilty to lying to investigators. He is in jail for two weeks. Paul Manafort, convicted of collusion, nope. Financial crimes, oh, loan applications, tax issues, going back to 2007. And now, the special counsel, if you look at this case accusing him of breaking the deal and planning now to throw the book at him. He now by not going along may face life in jail. None of these charges have anything to do with Russian collusion. None of the real Russia collusion is ever looked at. And it doesn't stop the left from dreaming and cooking tunnel conspiracy theories. Look at "The Guardian" this week posting a fake story about Manafort many meetings with Julian Assange supposedly at the Ecuadorian embassy. The biggest problem is, we have Paul Manafort's passport and it doesn't show that he entered London in the years "The Guardian" claimed. Little background might work for them once in a while. And both Manafort and Julian Assange vehemently deny the meetings. They are both preparing lawsuits. And tonight, President Trump is fighting back, telling the "New York Post" that endless investigations will be met with a forceful response, including the declassification of the important DOJ, FISA, special counsel documents and the other piece of information that are, quote, devastating to Democrats. The president should act. What is happening in Washington, the swamp, the sewer, the greatest travesty of justice, corruption, abuse of power we have ever seen. You're witnessing a partisan witch hunt. That is what it is. But not into any crime. Not into any collusion. Into a single man that they hate won the presidency, and that's Donald Trump. And you got investigators, almost all of them Democrats, you know, singularly focused only on him, and loving Hillary Clinton supporters. She gets a pass. Schiff who you just heard gets a pass. The Constitution gets shredded. No equal justice under the law, no equal application of our laws. It's all to destroy the president you elected. And they are willing to destroy lives of anyone and everyone who dares get in their way. A lot of ground to cover. Joining us now, Republican strategist Roger Stone. Roger, welcome back to the program. Let me start with the e-mails that go back here. Word is -- and this is, you know, word is a friend in the embassy plans two more dumps. Corsi wrote on August 2, 2016, referring to Julian Assange. One shortly after I'm back and 2nd in October. Impact planned could be damaging. What do you know about that? ROGER STONE, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Well, I think it's speculation from Jerry Corsi who is an excellent investigative reporter. Nowhere does it say John Podesta's e-mails have been stolen and will be published. Jerry said last night on "Tucker Carlson" that he had told me and other people that. I have no memory of him telling me that. I don't know who those other people might be. But I think it's despicable that they have tried to pit Jerry Corsi and I, both strong supporters of the president, against each other when the bottom line is neither one of us received anything whatsoever from Julian Assange -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Have you ever talked to Julian Assange? STONE: Or anyone else. HANNITY: Have you ever talked to him? STONE: No, never. HANNITY: Never meet him? STONE: No, never. Never met him. HANNITY: All right. Did you get to Assange at Ecuadorian embassy in London, get the pending WikiLeaks e-mails over read the e-mail, et cetera, et cetera? Did you send that Corsi? STONE: Yes, I did, but there is some back story. I had gotten an e-mail from Charles Ortel, which was a forward from James Rosen of FOX, who had said he had a tip that the coming disclosures pertained to the Clinton Foundation. That turned out, by the way, to be false. I did know that Jerry's associate Ted Malloch, nice fellow, who I'd met in New York, and mentioned that he knew Assange. I think it may have been just name-dropping. So, I asked Jerry to see if he could get it. Jerry didn't respond, did not send me anything. We are trafficking in political gossip. We're trying to find out like, every politico, like every political reporter in America what it was that Assange has, because he had teased it on CNN. He had teased it on FOX. Every political reporter in the country knew it was coming. We wanted to know what it was about. HANNITY: Let me ask you this. The tweet of August 21st, 2016: Trust me, it will soon be the Podestas' time -- plural, Podestas -- time in the barrel. Weeks later, emails stolen from Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta would -- I talk -- we're going to talk to Andrew -- Andy McCarthy and our own Gregg Jarrett tonight. Did you ever conspire to hack, conspire to hack, steal any e-mails from anybody? I say this in the precedents that discussed earlier, the Pentagon Papers. STONE: No, absolutely not. On July 31st, Peter Schweizer published his "From Russia with Money", an extraordinary expose of the Podesta brothers' extensive dealings with oligarchs around Putin in aluminum, uranium, gas, banking. Jerry Corsi also helped educate me about the fact that Panama Papers published in April of 2016 detailed the Podesta brothers' extensive business dealings. But the 21st was not even my first tweet. In fact, on the 15th, I had tweeted that Paul Manafort makes John Podesta look like St. Thomas Aquinas. So this was not my first tweet. Now, the claim that I later -- that the tweet caused controversy brought heat on me was not true because until six weeks later, when Assange did publish the Podesta e-mails, there was no social media commentary. There was no media commentary. There was no congressional investigation. There was no Mueller investigation. HANNITY: Let me ask you this, Roger, if I may. STONE: There was no subpoenas. So, I had no need for a cover story. HANNITY: What I construct and this is from Jerry Corsi, and I'll ask him in a minute. What I testified to the grand jury was I believe I was creating a cover story for Roger because Roger wanted to explain that tweet. By the way, the special counsel knew this. They can tell my key strokes on that computer. What is that about? STONE: Yes, my point is I had no reason for a cover story. Jerry said I was getting heat but there was no heat. For six weeks, no one even noticed that tweet. It was not until the Podesta papers were filed, were published by WikiLeaks that it became controversial. So, I had no reason to cover it up. I had no advanced knowledge of the hacking or -- pardon me, the theft or the publication of the Podesta e- mails. I had no reason for a cover story. HANNITY: Roger stone, by the way, his book "Stone's Rules" -- you think you're going to be arrested, don't you? STONE: I have no idea. If this is done on the basis of actual evidence and the law and the facts, no, because I haven't done anything illegal. I have been targeted for one reason and one reason only. I'm loyal to the president of the United States. I strongly supported his election. I started urging him to run in 1988, again in 2000. HANNITY: Let me ask you this. STONE: Again in 2012. That's why I'm persecuted. HANNITY: The president gave statements today, was leaked that he answered two questions. One was about you. Did you ever talk to the president about Julian Assange or WikiLeaks ever? STONE: Absolutely not. And -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So the president told the truth in what we learned today? STONE: Yes, absolutely. We -- at no time did Donald Trump and I, either candidate Trump or President Trump, discuss WikiLeaks. But as you know, Sean, they're trying to destroy you financially to make you plead guilty to some minor crime you didn't commit. Just like General Flynn. So, I had to set up stonedefensefund.com. It's why they are trying to censor me on "Infowars", so I have no platform to respond to these personal attacks. It is really devastating when they try to destroy you like this. HANNITY: It's amazing, too, when you see all the evidence of what Hillary did and they don't go near it. Roger Stone, thank you. I appreciate you being with us. STONE: Thank you. HANNITY: Joining us now, author of the upcoming book "Silent No More: How I Became a Political Prisoner of Mueller's `Witch Hunt'", Jerome Corsi, is with us. You said I'm not taking the plea deal. I know I could go to jail for the rest of my life. A lot of this resolves around the text message sent to you by roger who you just heard that you didn't remember. And you were amending your testimony numerous times because you didn't remember what you wrote or said two years ago. JEROME CORSI, AUTHOR, "SILENT NO MORE": That's correct. And what the special prosecutor is asking me to do is accept a fraudulent plea which I'm going to have my attorneys file criminal charges on with the Department of Justice. My experience made it clear to me that the political criminals are running the Department of Justice and Mueller's prosecution. I was ridiculed. My testimony was laughed at. They yawned at it. They misbehaved and they accused me of being a liar and fabricator, I think, which was an attack on me for the books I have written that have been successful, 20 books since 2004 -- HANNITY: I remember when you wrote -- let me ask you this, you spent how many hours before Mueller and his team? CORSI: I was there for 40 hours approximately. HANNITY: Let me ask you this, when they were offering you this plea deal, which they even said might result in probation, maybe no jail time at all. When you were confronted with the opportunity because -- you're right, you're 72 years old. You may be -- this could be a life sentence for you in jail. But when they were talking to you, were they telling you what -- in your opinion, what they wanted to hear and if you said it, you'd get off scot- free? CORSI: Oh, absolutely. In fact, my attorney said all they want you to say is that you're the source -- HANNITY: Give me an example of that. What were they telling you they wanted to hear? CORSI: Oh, they wanted to hear that I had a source connected to Assange or I did -- some way had a direct contact with Assange so they could do the connection, which would go Roger Stone, Jerry Corsi, Assange. And then they had their basis for collusion. It was complete nonsense. But they would not accept when I told them that, in fact, I never met Assange. I had no contact with Assange or intermediary. HANNITY: You never had any contact with Julian Assange or WikiLeaks? CORSI: Absolutely not. HANNITY: Never? CORSI: Never. HANNITY: Stay right there if you can stay. We're going to hold you over. Jerome Corsi will be with us, and then we're going to ask the important legal questions. Is any of this if you don't steal, you don't hack, you don't conspire to, is any of this a violation of law? It's important question. Gregg Jarrett and Andy McCarthy, as we continue, important breaking news tonight on HANNITY. HANNITY: I will continue my interview now with Jerome Corsi who decided to turn down a plea deal agreement with the special counsel's office. He says he committed no crime. All right. You never spoke to Julian Assange. You never met him. You never spoke to anyone at WikiLeaks, any surrogate? JEROME CORSI, CONSERVATIVE: That's correct. I never did. HANNITY: OK. Let me go back then to August 2nd, 2016. And you said and wrote: Word is a friend in embassy plans two more dumps, referring to Julian Assange and WikiLeaks. One shortly after I'm back, 2nd in October. Impact planned to be very damaging. So, if you don't know him, how did you know that? CORSI: Well, because it was a matter of deduction. I had expert analysis and information on how the Democrats put their computer system together. The release of information on July 22nd, 2016. They got Debbie Wasserman Schultz, was taken from the DNC e-mail server. But it only included officials who were not John Podesta. I said John Podesta is missing here. And I know whoever stole e-mails from that server had John Podesta's, and I said, if I had John Podesta's e-mail, I'd keep them until the end and make it my October surprise -- HANNITY: So, you deduced they had to have them -- CORSI: I deduced it. HANNITY: -- because of the same server. CORSI: Same server. Had to come out -- HANNITY: Let me go to "Wall Street Journal" then. You said, what I construct, and what I testified to the grand jury was I believed I was creating a cover story for Roger, meaning Roger Stone, because Roger wanted to explain the tweet that I had earlier asked him about. And, by the way the special counsel knew this. They can tell virtually my key strokes on that computer. Roger said that's not logical and said that you were squeezed by Mueller's prosecutors when you said that. Can you shed some light on that? CORSI: Yes, two points very quickly. First of all, they constantly pressed me about what Roger thought. And I told it was a shame I didn't take a mind reading course at Harvard, but I can't tell you what somebody else is thinking. And listening to Roger tonight, it sounds like that's Roger's explanation and I'll accept that that's what Roger was thinking. In terms of what I thought he was doing -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Were you trying to -- were you trying to -- as you said, were you trying to create cover story for Roger? CORSI: Yes, let me answer that. In politics and as in public relations -- I was trained in public relations by Edward Bernays, the founder of it, you know, you create narrative to benefit your client. British Petroleum going after the oil reserves all over the world becomes BP, and suddenly, it's beyond petroleum. Well, BP is no more beyond oil than Long John Silver was beyond looting. Is that a lie? HANNITY: Let me ask you this. You actually said the following. You said, "I, in my heart I went in to tell the truth. Did my best to tell the truth and I won't swear before God and a judge something I consider to be a lie." We're talking about two-year-old e-mails, Mr. Corsi, two years old. And then you acknowledged the times that you had forgotten some of the e-mails. You could have possibly gotten no jail time, none at all. And now you might, as you even said, risk dying in jail. You are old. You are 72 years old. Look, we all worry at this point in our lives, right? CORSI: Yes. HANNITY: Why? CORSI: Because-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And here is my bigger question. What did you know they were trying to get you to say? CORSI: They wanted me-- HANNITY: What did they want? CORSI: They wanted me to name a source with WikiLeaks that I had that told me Assange had Podesta's e-mails. And to answer your other question, the plea deal they were offered, I had to go before a federal judge and swear under God and to a federal judge that I knowingly and willfully submitted false information that I knew to be false to the federal authorities in order to mislead them. I didn't do that. I'd rather spend -- if the United States has come to it I'll spend the rest of my life in jail but I will not swear under God to a lie. I won't do it. HANNITY: And but you do admit you -- listen, I can't tell you who was on my show last week. So, you know, if I'm in the same position unless I reviewed all my e-mails and went back and look at it ahead of time, I wouldn't remember. I don't know who was on the show last week. I can tell you Reagan's accomplishments from the 1980s but I can't tell you who was on. Let me ask you this. I think this is very, very important. And you know, if you didn't have any communications and you didn't know and you're -- did you ever because, looking for op research isn't a crime. We'll get to our attorneys next. If you conspired to steal, hack into somebody's personal e-mails or whatever or had any doings with that, that would be a crime. Did you do any of those things? CORSI: Absolutely not. I deduced that Assange had Podesta's e-mails, I knew it they were going to be in and how damaging they were going to be in and how they were used. But I'm not a human tape recorder. You can't punch a button and have me recite word for word a conversation or an e-mail I did two years ago. And that's what the prosecutors demanded. They ridiculed me. They yawned. They got up in the room. They abused me all kind of ways psychologically. They did that to coerce me. To make me from day one, to think that if I didn't tell them what they wanted to hear I was going to go to prison for the rest of my life and die there. HANNITY: Did they say that to you? CORSI: They made it very clear these was serious offenses and there could be multiple charges and there could be-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me ask you this. I remember when you wrote the book on John Kerry. We had you on many times at the time. CORSI: Yes. HANNITY: You know, I'm reading what the media writes about you, that you didn't believe the moon landing was real or that 9/11 -- I just -- I want to get it accurate -- was an inside job. I don't know if you believe those things or not. Do you? Because I was surprised when I read it. CORSI: I don't. That is fabrication. I don't believe. But you are getting into a very important point. Aaron Zelinsky, one of the prosecutors, said ridiculed me, he said you just take that fact and you make lies. Well, I know he is ridiculing my work on, you know, Barack Obama, the birth certificate. HANNITY: Right. CORSI: He's ridiculing the sweep votes. I'm being persecuted and prosecuted because the left wants to get rid of me. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Listen, you are allowed to have controversial opinions and views. I would disagree with you on both of those things but this isn't what's at issue here. CORSI: Right. HANNITY: What's an issue here is, were you offered basically freedom if you told lies? And you are saying they wanted you to lie, they were pushing you to lie. CORSI: Yes. If I had given them what they wanted it would be happy, happy. In fact, after the first grand jury testimony, they all shook my hand and congratulated me they blew it up in the second round because I did not have a source for WikiLeaks. They blew it up for that reason. HANNITY: All right. Jerome Corsi, thank you for being with us. We wish you the best of luck. This is pretty unbelievable. Especially with the Hillary side of this. All right. When we come back, this is going to be important legal analysis. Andy McCarthy and Gregg Jarrett. Is anything that we are talking about here looking for op-research a crime? Or do you have to conspire and actually do the things? What about the Pentagon papers case? That's next. HANNITY: All right. Here with reaction to the legal side of my interviews with Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi, is the author of the bestseller "The Russia Hoax: The Elicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump" Fox News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett, and former -- and Fox News contributor, NRO contributor and of course, the Southern District of New York, probably one of the most prestigious D.A. offices in the country, Andy McCarthy. So, if a 72-year-old guy hands over his computers, cooperates 40 hours, doesn't remember e-mails from two years ago, and then is told if you tell us this we'll basically going to let you off the hook. But he knows it's a lie. And he is willing to risk life in jail here. Is there anything here that you hear is a crime from either Stone or Corsi? Because I don't. I hear people looking for op-research in a campaign which happens in every campaign. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: You know, it's not a crime to fail to recollect something. ANDREW MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. JARRETT: But in the twisted world of Robert Mueller if you don't remember three e-mails you sent two years ago you get charged with a crime, you get accused of lying even though you told the truth. You are an imperfect human being. You don't remember it. What Corsi was doing two years ago reaching out to Assange and WikiLeaks is the same thing I did and journalists did all over America. HANNITY: Listen, I think I'm the only guy that actually flew to London-- JARRETT: Yes. HANNITY: -- and interviewed Julian Assange-- JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: -- when he said no. And he reaffirmed this actually tonight on NBC. No, it wasn't from Russia. No state party. Maybe there is a third party cutout. I have no idea. (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: Right. None of that is a crime. HANNITY: But that's what he said. JARRETT: And Mueller knows. And I think there is a very good chance that he will never charge Jerome Corsi with making a false statement because Mueller knows he couldn't possibly win and prove that case in front of a jury in a court of law because it requires specific intent. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So, we're going to put a 72-year-old guy in jail. Andy, you worked at one of the Southern District of New York. Some of the best prosecutors ever worked there. When a 72-year-old guy can't remember e- mails from two years ago and amends his testimony a number of times but wants to cooperate in any way, do you see a crime here? MCCARTHY: Well, the problem, Sean, is that if there was a crime here, they wouldn't be asking Jerry Corsi to plead guilty to false statements. You know, the office that you said I worked at, you are quite right. We had a lot of very accomplished cases that were done there. But I can tell you having done a number of them that nobody builds a case this way. When you actually have a crime, what you do is you make the main cooperator plead guilty to the conspiracy and he explains here is what the conspiracy was, here is what I did. Here is what the Russians did. Here was connection in the Trump campaign. Here is who the hackers were. But you need to have a crime that people agreed to in order to have a conspiracy. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. Let me ask you that. MCCARTHY: They don't have that. HANNITY: A crime would be-- MCCARTHY: They've never had that. HANNITY: -- if they conspired somebody to hack into somebody's e-mails. A crime would be-- (CROSSTALK) MCCARTHY: Right. HANNITY: -- if they did it themselves. MCCARTHY: Hacking is a crime. Right. HANNITY: Or conspired. It sounds like they are speculating. I think there is a big bombshell coming because WikiLeaks had released the DNC e-mails earlier. MCCARTHY: No, they are not -- the prosecutors here are not speculating. What they are doing is criminalizing Republican presidential politics. And camouflaging the fact that that's what they are doing by taking a few false statements counts. In other words, they get a few people to plead guilty so that they can say-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Or misremembering. You know, I don't remember the last time you were on my show, Andy. (CROSSTALK) MCCARTHY: Well, regardless of what's it worth. HANNITY: And I love you. And you are on the show a lot. You know, I couldn't tell you who is on last week. Again, I can tell you Obama's failed record off the top of my head. You know, let me ask this. In light of-- (CROSSTALK) MCCARTHY: But Sean, the thing is-- HANNITY: Go ahead. Go ahead, sir. No, you go. MCCARTHY: What I was just going to say. No good prosecutor builds a case this way. You don't build a case by pleading your cooperating witnesses to lying to the FBI. HANNITY: What about the-- (CROSSTALK) MCCARTHY: What do you want, you want to put a witness on the stand and the thing the jury remembers about them is that they are a liar? HANNITY: It kind of sounds like bribery to me. Say what we want. That's what Corsi is saying. He knew what they wanted him to say. He could have saved his own ass. He could just-- (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: These are the just tactics. HANNITY: What do you want me to say? OK, I'll say it. JARRETT: These are unconscionable tactics by an unscrupulous and unprincipled lawyer. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I don't like that system. That's a quid pro quo. Gregg, I got a specific question. Six-three decision, Pentagon papers, stolen information. New York Times and other publications, Washington Post published it upheld by the Supreme Court. Six-three decision. And that was stolen information. Now if WikiLeaks didn't steal it and it was given to them-- JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: -- and the New York Times published what WikiLeaks published, they are not based on the Pentagon paper decision neither one of them including Assange would be guilty of any crime because they didn't steal it or hack it, correct? JARRETT: That's absolutely correct. The Pentagon papers case really does stand for the proposition that publications can publish stolen documents as long as they are not involved in the stealing because it's in the public interest. I was important for America to learn about the lies underlying the Vietnam War and the same can be true here. Isn't it important that Americans learn of corrupt behavior by Hillary Clinton and the Clinton campaign and the DNC? Of course, it is. Even though that information was either stolen or it was leaked by someone. Which might not even be a crime to begin with. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Why don't they ever go to Assange, WikiLeaks and say OK, you got this information. They make deals with everybody else. Why didn't they make a deal with him and say you show us the, where this all came from? And then we'd get the definitive answer, wouldn't we? It seems like nobody wanted to get that answer. Where did Assange get it from? I interviewed him. He said it wasn't Russia, he said it wasn't a state party. He didn't tell me who it was. But he got it from nobody which means he didn't steal it based on what he is saying, correct? Go ahead. MCCARTHY: Sean, you know, look. Look at the -- look at the indictment of Manafort. Look at the indictment of Gates. There is a million crimes in both of those indictments. Mueller is scorching the earth to find crimes in order to justify this investigation. If he had it, don't you think he would have charged something other than false statements? HANNITY: Last, it's a yes or no question. When you add the Hillary issue of Russia, pay for Russian lies to influence the election, which they won't go into, are we losing equal justice? JARRETT: Absolutely. HANNITY: Under the law, equal application under the law? Yes or no. JARRETT: Hillary Clinton paid for Russian information, fed it to the FBI to damage Donald Trump. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And also fed it to the public. JARRETT: That should be investigated. HANNITY: Andy, are we losing equal justice, equal application? MCCARTHY: We have never had equal justice in this. There has never been -- in one case they bent over backwards not to make a case. In the other one they are scorching the earth to find one. HANNITY: Well, just take the shredder and put the Constitution in it and just say goodbye. That's what it sounds like to me. That's how it's written. You know, where is prosecutorial discretion? Where is any sense of objectivity, proportionality as the Democrats said during the Clinton impeachment hearings? Gentlemen, you've been amazing. Thank you. We're going to follow the story and continue. But we have on update. DHS reporting that MS-13 gang members arrested by the border patrol as part of the migrant caravan. Sara Carter and Morgan Ortagus, they're next. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Also, another breaking news tonight. The Department of Homeland Security is confirming a man was arrested at the Calexico border crossing east of Tijuana and admitted to being MS-13 gang member, and said he was part of the caravan. Here now with reaction, former treasury intelligence analyst, Morgan Ortagus, and Fox News contributor, Sara Carter. Now, Sara along with my radio producer Lynda McLaughlin they did a - by the way, no money, it was basically a, what do we call it? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Non-profit. HANNITY: Non-profit documentary. CARTER: Educational film. HANNITY: Well, what you guys did, you and Lynda was amazing. Not in vain. it's about the opioid epidemic. Let's talk about the people. You had reported MS-13 gang members when you were down there, Sara. CARTER: That's right. When I was in Guatemala over three weeks ago, and I was there to actually see the second wave come across the Honduran border. There were several, actually, that I encountered, several MS-13 gang members. The only reason I can say this is that I could visibly tell they were MS-13. I even talked to them by the tattoos and the markings on their arms. You got to realize this now, Sean, though. Over the last several years, MS- 13 has been asking their gang members to actually not tattoo themselves so when they recruit new and younger gang members, they have actually asked them not to tattoo, not to have any markings and not to dress like them to really make themselves incognito so that when they can come across the border they can easily blend in and not be targeted by DHS. So that's another big concern. HANNITY: We now have, Morgan, thousands more going to the border. We saw the rush, we saw the bottles thrown and rocks pelting our border patrol people. Which makes it even more dangerous. Tear gas was used. By the way, Obama did every month of his presidency on average. MORGAN ORTAGUS, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Right. HANNITY: And nobody in the media seemed to care then. This is a big crisis. I guess the question is now that the DHS and the Mexican officials have identified over 600 criminals, some gang members like we discussed. How do we let any one of them in and how do we tell the difference? I'm sure the majority just want to be in America for opportunity. ORTAGUS: I think you are totally right, Sean. And I think what we saw during the 2016 election is that the wall seems to be somewhat of a domestic policy dispute. And now what you are seeing I think is a real legitimate national security situation here. I think Americans are starting to see it that way. I think that Americans are going to reject this false premise that the Democrats have put forward, which is you either have open borders and everyone can come in or if you want some sort of sensible immigration plan, if you don't like people storming our borders, if you don't like people throwing rocks at our ICE agents then somehow you are a racist and that you hate all immigrants, you know. That sort of a false choice that the American people have been given and what they are seeing through these images is that we have legitimate national security challenges. And this is going over, Sean, not just between the U.S. and Mexico. We are seeing this as an epidemic in Central America and Latin America. We've seen over four million Venezuelans in the socialist country that's falling apart flee their country. Colombia is dealing with this. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me ask you both this. ORTAGUS: This is not just a U.S. issue. HANNITY: You know, and, Sara, you know, Griff Jenkins reporting the overwhelming majority are men. CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: I understand the argument, our guys are getting pelted with rocks, bottles, and the other items. And they use tear gas and then people say, well, they are women and children. Well, if I'm a parent and I see people rushing the border and you see a conflict coming, I, as a parent personally would feel responsible to get my kids as far away as possible. Do they bear any responsibility? CARTER: But Sean, yes. But Sean, let me tell you. They are using them as pawns. Remember, when I was in Guatemala, I said the same thing. They would put the women and children, the very few women and children in the front, they would use them as human shields. This is across the entire roughly 2,000 miles southern border. They are seeing this in Texas, from 3,000 to 5,000 a week over the last two months of people coming across in the Rio Grande sector alone. Those are the numbers that they are seeing. In Arizona, it's the same thing. HANNITY: Last-- CARTER: And what we are seeing in Tijuana is an example of how bad this is getting. HANNITY: And it's only getting worse. Last 20 seconds, Morgan. CARTER: That's right. ORTAGUS: I would just say that the president should continue to stand firm on the funding this $5 billion that he wants for the wall. Because it's not just about the wall. It's about a fight to implement our laws. HANNITY: Yes. ORTAGUS: It's symbolic about the immigration plan that he needs to have. So, I hope he keeps up the fight. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But Chuck Schumer only wants a fence to people who just climb over. All right. Thank you, both. When we come back, more HANNITY after this. HANNITY: You know what's so fascinating about all of this, is, you know, if you look that was nearly 600 days, tens of millions of dollars. Trump Russia collusion. You have Hillary collusion right there bought and paid for to influence the American people, all but ignored by the media, ignored by Robert Mueller. Unbelievable. If you say this, we'll buy your testimony. We'll give you and get out of jail free card. Is that the country we want? Is that our constitutional republic? We'll have more tomorrow. Let not your heart be troubled. By the way, Fox Nation will tell you this big announcement tomorrow. Laura Ingraham, I have a big announcement about Fox Nation tomorrow. Load-Date: November 29, 2018 End of Document Former President Obama Taking Credit for the Success of the Current Administration, Trump's Administration, and Criticizing Trump on His Public Appearances; Obama Speaking about Identity Politics and the History of It; Analysts Examine President Trump Comments on Mueller Probe and Pardoning Paul Manafort; "Murphy Brown" Reboot Reportedly Canceled; Celine Dion Releases Gender-Neutral Clothing Line for Children; Organizations Aiding Migrant Caravans Profiled Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 28, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7956 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Howard Kurtz, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Victor David Hanson, Austan Goolsbee, Craig Shirley, Joe diGenova, Dan Bongino, Richard Goodstein, Allen Orr, Hayden Ludwig Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Unbelievable. If you say this, we will buy your testimony. We will give you a get-out-of-jail-free card. Is that the country we want? Is that our constitutional republic? We'll have more tomorrow. Let not your heart be troubled. By the way, Fox Nation, I tell you, it's a big announcement tomorrow. Laura Ingraham, I have a big announcement about Fox Nation tomorrow. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: You do? I think it's great that you're going to be the fashion coordinator for all the, you know, wardrobe dresses out of all the -- look, you are wearing kind of an ice blue -- HANNITY: You know, I got enough people in my life right now that tell me that I dress like crap -- INGRAHAM: No, you actually look -- HANNITY: -- and telling me what shirts to wear, what ties to wear. INGRAHAM: No, no, Sean. I was actually going to say. Tonight, I'm looking -- it's a very nice flattering ice blue because -- do you have blue eyes? I can't remember if you have blue? HANNITY: No, they are hazel. INGRAHAM: (Inaudible) hazel. HANNITY: They are squinty you can't tell. INGRAHAM: But it looks (inaudible). It is ice blue with kind of a purpley, blue -- HANNITY: You know, let's just reverse this. I start talking about your fashion, I am dead. INGRAHAM: I kind of look like -- I'm kind of like doing and Alexander Hamilton thing tonight I have decided. I'm going to like burst out into a room where it happens. HANNITY: You know, why we are friends, I don't know. INGRAHAM: I don't know, but I adore you. So, great show tonight as always. HANNITY: Have a great show. INGRAHAM: All right, I am Laura Ingraham. This is "The Ingraham Angle" from a very busy Washington tonight. What else would it be? The president is taking forceful aim at the special counsel investigation, claiming that Mueller's witness tactics end up being pure of McCarthyism. Joe diGenova is here to tell us why he thinks Mueller's team members can be sanctioned. Plus, an anti-Trump sitcom is canceled. We predicted it. And singer Celine Dion is pushing a rather unconventional clothing line for children. Why it all matters? Well, Raymond Arroyo will break it all down. He's here. Details in "Seen and Unseen." And by the way, who are the hidden figures inside the country, our country, helping to guide and organize the caravans to our southern border. An "Ingraham Angle" multi-part investigation, we have another installment tonight. But first, Obama's failed reset. That's the focus of tonight's "Angle." The Obama's left the White House almost two years ago. Can you believe it? But they don't want you to forget how awesome they were. Excuse me, are. Well, with Michelle's current rock star like book tour, the pair's global speech (inaudible) and their deep ties to Hollywood celebs, they are hard to avoid. Last night, Barack Obama visited the Baker Institute in Houston, Texas, and he came off as a man who is obsessed with himself and obsessed with taking credit for another guy's -- Trump's-- success. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: And by the way, American energy production, you wouldn't always know it but, you know, it went up every year when I was president. And that whole, suddenly America is like the biggest oil producer and the biggest -- that was me, people. I just want you to -- Sometimes you go to Wall Street and folks would be grumbling about anti- business. I said have you checked where your stocks were when I came in office and where they are now. What are you talking -- what are you complaining about? Just say thank you please. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: No thank you. Obama's efforts at legacy building notwithstanding the difference between the two president's economic records are stark. Andy Puzder, fast food exec and one-time Trump labor secretary nominee wrote a fantastic piece in yesterday's "Wall Street Journal." He compared the end of the Obama economy with the beginning of the Trump economy. Check this out. GDP growth staggered along at 1.5 percent in Mr. Obama's final six full quarters in office. But growth doubled to 3 percent during Mr. Trump's first six full quarters. The increase in job openings over Mr. Trump's first 21 months has averaged an impressive 75,000 a month. But over Mr. Obama's last 20 months in office, the number of job openings increased an average of 900 a month. Well, during Mr. Obama's last 21 months, the number of employed Americans increased -- not bad -- an average of 157,000 a month. But under Mr. Trump, the increase has accelerated to 214,000 a month. A whopping 36 percent improvement. Unbelievable. Well, on top of that, we all know other facts, right. There had been record low African-American, Latino unemployment. Credible rise in small business applications, and totally jacked up consumer confidence. You get the point. Obama's pathetic attempt to take credit for the fruits of his successors policies while Obama criticizes most of those very same policies, just patently ridiculous. And that's not the only thing by the way that doesn't wash in Obama land. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: Michelle and I and our girls, we came out intact in a -- and what I mean by that is that the core values that we brought into the office, pretty homespun values of, you know, tell the truth and try to see the other person's point of view and treat people kindly and with respect. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: With respect? Excuse me if I laugh. Like all the respect his administration and he himself showed for any Obama critic? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: Let me just make this point, John, because we are not campaigning anymore. The election is over. They had suspicions about whether government should make sure that kids in poverty are getting enough to eat. Think of how much better off our country would be if Republican politicians hadn't spent years precisely trying to scare voters. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's all Republicans did. And that was the nice stuff he said by the way. And as far as his homespun values that he bragged about last night, values like, I don't know, telling the truth. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And Solyndra is going to be a really good investment -- $500 million down the tube. Well, Obama is spending his nonretirement pining away, let's face it, for the bygone era when liberals dominated all media platforms. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: Whether it was Cronkite or Brinkley or what had you, there was a common set of facts, a baseline around which both parties had to adapt and respond to. And by the time I take office, what you increasingly have is a media environment in which if you are a Fox News viewer, you have an entirely different reality than if you are a "New York Times" reader. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Yes, it is entirely different. We see the world as it is, while "The New York Times" and certain other networks sell their own version of reality. And oftentimes that version of reality is one where all those flyover people in the middle of the country, they kind of just fade away to be replaced by hip or cool or progressives and maybe some socialist urbanites. Well some of us on talk radio and the president despises talk radio, we actually speak with the so-called deplorables every day. We actually saw Trump's victory coming while the so-called erudite said, who live and die by every headline and the old gray lady, were confident right up until the end that Hillary Clinton was going to win. But the real reason Obama detests Fox, talk radio, pretty much any conservative website, is because he prefers life kind of the way it was or is today on college campuses, you know, where diversity of thought is largely nonexistent and where violators of vague community standards are punished or shunned. And meanwhile, where sycophants and toadies, certain liberal ideals or people enjoy special privileges and nonstop accolades from professors for their courage and their insight. Guess what? Millions of Americans were actually glad either they didn't go to university or they are glad that they live now in something called the real world. They actually graduated and they prefer news sources and commentary where their own values are not under constant assault and ridicule by the so-called elites. But Barack Obama kind of has contempt for a lot of those values, at least in a lot of the values you and I hold dear. And he doesn't have all that much respect for any American who doesn't think like he does. Now, this line last night made it clear he hasn't learned much of anything since his snide, bitter clinger comments. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: That quickly enough to the fact that there were people being left behind and that frustrations were going to flare up. In those environments, you then start getting a different kind of politics. You start getting the politics based on a nationalism that's not pride in country but hatred for somebody on the other side of the border. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, so let me just get this straight. Anyone who supported Donald Trump especially his immigration policy, border enforcement and the like, is basically a racist xenophobic bigot or maybe you are just one of the mill stupid hick. He has an interesting way of kind of saying -- he doesn't come out and say it, but that's, you know, you don't have to be Einstein to read between the lines there. At bottom, it's a negative and cynical view of about half of the American population currently. You know when you think about the dark, cynical view of America, do you know what it reminds me of? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEREMIAH WRIGHT, PASTOR, TRINITY UNITED CHURC OF CHRIST: The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three strike law and they want us to see God bless America. No, no, no. Not God bless America. God damn America. It's in the bible. They are killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. OBAMA: I don't think that my church is actually particularly controversial as a member of the United Church of Christ. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: No, no, it's not controversial. Well, I guess you can take the man out of Reverend Wright's church but you can't take Jeremiah Wright's mind-set sometimes out of the man. Beneath all the polished and the smooth talk and kind of side jokes, Obama still can't see that there are substantive reasons why not everyone loves him. Maybe not as much as to the likes of Beyonce and Jay-Z do. And that's the "Angle." Here to react, Victor David Hanson, senior fellow at Stanford University Hoover Institution and author of the forthcoming book, "The Case for Trump," Howard Kurtz, host of "Media Buzz," and Austan Goolsbee, former economic advisor to President Obama. So Victor, let me start with you. Why does President Obama -- he feels like he has to always come out and try to rebrand his presidency. It seems really insecure. They always kind of claim Donald Trump is insecure. It seems like he's very insecure to kind of say, well, I am the one who got all the oil stuff going and I'm the one who did -- when the facts just frankly are not there in comparing the two economic records, as you see Puzder do in the "Journal" yesterday. VICTOR DAVID HANSON, SENIOR FELLOW, STANFORD UNIVERSITY HOOVER INSTITUTION: Yes, I think there are two points. One is the progressive mind-set sees politics as a 360-degree, 24/7 operation or job, so the last day in office is the first day of another progressive career. We saw that with Jimmy Carter. Remember, he always had the comment and editorialize and travel when Reagan was president. During the two Bush's presidencies, Al Gore and Bill Clinton were quite active in criticism. And Obama is doing the same thing. For them, it's a nonstop activity. And, you know, they need to get a ranch. He should go to Hawaii and buy a farm and focus on Netflix. That's what Reagan -- went up to the ranch. W (ph) went to the ranch and let his predecessor be. And it's kind of an irony that we have an antithetical presidency back-to- back, a progressive and a starkly conservative and when you let history adjudicate, you brought up facts, but the prior administration prognosticated that you need a magic wand to carry off what Trump promised and Paul Krugman said the stock market was going to tank and Barack Obama said you can't drill your way out of oil shortages and Larry Summers I think said 3 percent GDP. INGRAHAM: It was a fantasy. No, it was all a fantasy. It was all a fantasy. Never going to happen. Never going to do -- HANSON: Yes, exactly. And Trump came in and said no, I'm going to deregulate, I mean, do all these things. Yes, and so let history decide. We are only 18 months into the administration. You cited the facts. Obama should stop re- litigating the past and be empirical. INGRAHAM: Let it play out. HANSON: And let (inaudible) decide. INGRAHAM: Yes, we'll see. We'll see in another two years. Maybe all of this will go away and I certainly hope it doesn't. HANSON: Absolutely. INGRAHAM: Howie, I want to focus on the media aspect of all this. It really is quite something because a lot of the things they accuse President Trump of, thin-skinned, insecure -- HOWARD KURTZ, FOX NEW HOST: Narcissist. INGRAHAM: -- narcissist, boasting. I mean, the fingers always pointed back at you, like the Buddha said. And it seems like when you watch Obama, yes, he's cool. He's kind of back in the chair. He's fun. But it seems like a lot of that going on here. KURTZ: Barack Obama got the most gushing press since George Washington and clearly he misses it and he misses the spotlight, but he has to give a rest to this golden oldie about Fox News. That record is so scratched up and being played so many times. He completely ignores the fact there are all these liberal media outlets that make Trump bashing a 24/7 business model. Now, I give him a little more slack than you do because all ex-presidents talk up what they think is good about their record, but a lot of it is the indirect shots at Donald Trump. He doesn't mention Trump's name since the midterm elections -- INGRAHAM: Yes, but come on, that's so obvious. KURTZ: But we all know when he talks about, well, you know, nobody near me was indicted, he's talking Paul Manafort, he's talking Mike Flynn. You know, this is the way he is trying I think to make himself look better t his successor's expense. INGRAHAM: But why is that -- why he's offending half of the population, a good strategy for expanding his influence into 2020 for instance. I mean, it's the same thing they always do. It's what Hillary did with the deplorables. He got away with it with the bitter clinger thing because he was so good as a politician. But there are not many Obama's who got to come around and be an Obama type person. But Fox, talk radio, they have pretty much everything. They have the universities, they have most of the churches, they have most media outlets still today, most all newspapers for the most part, and that is still not good enough. That's what is stunning to me. KURTZ: Yes. Well, I think that, you know, Barack Obama's view of the world is simply that where he still can't believe that Donald Trump won the election. INGRAHAM: He can't believe that people -- all people don't love him which is what they accuse Trump of. Trump gets mad if you slight him. If you criticize him even slightly, Trump reminds you of it, but that's what Obama does. KURTZ: Right. But he's probably feeling slightly emboldened by the fact that Democrats took the House and he's saying (inaudible), now they're going to see that I was better than he remember. INGRAHAM: Yes, we'll see. Austan, this is what the president said, speaking of the no indictments. He made this comment. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: Not only did I not get indicted, nobody in my administration got indicted which by the way was the only administration in modern history that that can be said about. In fact, nobody came close to being indicted partly because the people who joined us were there for the right reasons. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, really? I mean, let's go through the list. Short of indictments, Austan. Fast and furious, IRS scandal, Solyndra -- we believe $500 million taxpayers money, Benghazi -- we have dead U.S. ambassador -- Susan Rice went out there and said it was a tape that caused the deaths. The V.A. scandal, a disaster. Tens of thousands of veterans denied care. Shinseki resigns in disgrace. You know, of course we had the OPM hacked by the Chinese which was a nightmare. And we could go on and on and on. So yes, no one was indicted. Maybe that's more, you know, maybe that's more related to the fact that we had Loretta Lynch and Eric Holder in the Justice Department. I don't know. That's just a speculation. AUSTAN GOOLSBEE, FORMER ECONOMIC ADVISOR TO PRESIDENT OBAMA: I don't know. It seems like you got to kind of focus your fire there, Laura. You're (inaudible) all over the place. INGRAHAM: Oh really? They are facts. What are those facts? GOOLSBEE: What I will say is, well, I would observe two things. One, I agree with you and I agree with our discussion there. I prefer if -- I would prefer if President Obama and all previous presidents kind of let it go, let the battles be fought not by the old administration. Let the new administration -- even if you think they are making mistakes, I don't think its right for the president to be the one out leading personal attacks. You saw with the bush administration, George Bush, he went to the ranch. Dick Cheney took a totally different approach. He was very critical by name, you know, going after the administration. And I favor the Bush approach. I wish Obama were not being as critical as he is. That said, I don't think that it's an exaggeration when the president says there are more people being indicted and there have been more scandals under the Trump administration than there were under the Obama administration. That's all for a fact. INGRAHAM: But the point, but -- I understand what you're saying. Technically that is true. However, what he's intending all of us to take away from that is we had this ethical group. They were only in there to do good stuff. Well, I mean -- GOOLSBEE: Well, I was trying to do good stuff -- look, it's a fair point. INGRAHAM: I am not saying you weren't. See, we love you. GOOLSBEE: I started from the spot that I agree with you. I don't think that the president should be -- the former president should be saying that about the current president. INGRAHAM: Yes. VDH, go ahead. HANSON: I would just say I don't think that's quite correct because the verdict is not out. Eric Holder was the first attorney general to be held in contempt of Congress. Lois Lerner pled the Fifth Amendment and we don't know what's going to happen with the Obama FBI, CIA, NSC, and DOJ officials because the verdict is not out on Bruce Ohr. Eight to 10 FBI officials have already been retired or reassigned or maybe facing indictment. We saw that James Comey and John Brennan, James Clapper, it's not over because we are looking at a situation where a presidential candidate hired a foreign national to find dirt on her opponent in that dossier was seeded among top officials of the Obama administration. We haven't had an accounting, ethical or legal yet and it's coming. INGRAHAM: And we didn't have a chance to put that in our graphic, Victor, so you actually win the graphics award tonight. Thank you so much guys. Great segment. And coming up, what else did Obama get wrong? Well, historian Craig Shirley is here to tell us. Plus, can targets of the Mueller probe sue the special counsel or his team and could the Mueller team even be sanctioned? Joe diGenova, dan Bongino, and Goodstein take that up ahead. INGRAHAM: Former President Obama didn't just attempt to remake his own past but also the success America enjoyed in the aftermath of the Cold War. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: The Washington consensus, whatever you want to call it, got a little too comfortable with, you know, they all look at the GDP numbers and they are looking at the internet and everything is looking pretty great. And particularly after the Cold War -- after what you guys engineered, you have this period of great smugness on the part of America and American elites thinking we got this all figured out. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me now, Reagan historian and author of "Rendezvous with Destiny" Craig Shirley. Craig, you were particularly struck by former President Obama's historical illiteracy. Please explain. CRAIG SHIRLEY, REAGAN HISTORIAN: Look Laura, I can understand why he wouldn't be smug about the winning of the Cold War. We in fact won the Cold War. We didn't end the cold war. But we freed millions of people formerly imprisoned behind the iron curtain. We tore down an evil empire. Ronald Reagan literally changed the world than previous presidents, as that we should have been smug. I think one of the great failings when the wall finally fell and Gorbachev resigned, the George H.W. Bush administration, is he never went on national television to explain to the American people why the anti-communist policies of Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy and every president going forward and why the policies of why 55,000 boys didn't die in vain in Vietnam. Why the vigil a long twilight struggle against Soviet communism was important. It was a great struggle. INGRAHAM: And tie it all together. SHIRLEY: Yes. Exactly. We should have been smug. We won. The good guys won and the bad guys lost. We should have been smug. INGRAHAM: No, you are smug today when you pass Obamacare and then the website doesn't launch. You know, that is something to be really smug about. Craig, I got to play something else for you because we don't have a ton of time. SHIRLEY: OK. INGRAHAM: Identity politics was discussed at length last night and this need for civility, like we had civility during Obama or in the recent past and now we have no civility apparently because of Fox News, talk radio and a few conservative websites. But this is what he said about identity politics and where it all began. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: When I hear people say they don't like identity politics, they don't like -- I think it's important to remember that identity politics doesn't just apply when it's black people or gay people or women. The folks who really originated identity politics with the folks who said, you know, 3/5 clause (inaudible). That was identity politics. Jim Crow was identity politics. That's where it started. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Thoughts there? SHIRLEY: Well, he was just lost where his teleprompter, isn't he? He talked about Jim Crow in the context of the American Revolution -- is that Jim Crow was 100 years later and without the framework that was created, the brilliance of the framers in Philadelphia in 1707, he never would have been elected president. We never would have had the chance to pass the 13th and 14th amendments to the Constitution. So, is that to attack the framers and founders as being mired in identity politics, the American Revolution was about escaping the identity politics of the British Empire where British subjects had rights and American subjects had no rights. I can't think of any better example of identity politics than that. INGRAHAM: So he went to pretty good schools, right? Credibly well educated and -- SHIRLEY: But did he crack a book? INGRAHAM: Well, I mean, you know, everyone complains. All the things they complain about Trump, that he doesn't read enough history, all the things the elites -- or he's narcissistic, he's thin-skinned, he's obsessed with his own -- what person who runs for president, except for Reagan may be, doesn't have an outsized ego. They all do. But for all the things they criticized Trump for, watching Obama last night, I mean, he's kind of a cool (inaudible). He has really cool approach, but come on. He is so mad about Trump's success. He is so enraged that things have gone really well in the economy. So he has to say I did it. I find that to be -- it's just not that mature for someone who fancies himself as mature kind of elites, well-educated individual. SHIRLEY: Yes, he said something curious too. He said, well, nobody was indicted. Of course, you just went through a whole litany (ph) of scandals (inaudible) to the Obama's eight years in office. One thing that you overlooked was the criminal use of the IRS to shut down the (inaudible) around the country -- INGRAHAM: Yes. That was on the list. Lois Lerner, yes, but I didn't mention it. Give me a break. SHIRLEY: He was. But he said nobody was indicted since that -- that's like saying, well, I should go on Mount Rushmore because I didn't rob banks. I mean, that's not really, you know, something to really boast about, as to say, well, nobody was indicted -- INGRAHAM: Hey Craig, has the Nobel committee ever been the same since President Obama won the Nobel Prize? SHIRLEY: No, but the Nobel committee -- INGRAHAM: I mean, that's -- we just let that go. I mean, that was amazing. SHIRLEY: Yes, but you go back to Japan occupation by Douglas MacArthur, he deserved the Nobel Prize for that and he never got it. INGRAHAM: All right, Craig, thanks so much. And President Trump sending clear messages to Mueller's special counsel team today in a wide-ranging interview with "The New York Post." He addressed the targeting of Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, and Jerome Corsi saying, "We are in a McCarthy era. That was a bad situation for the country, but this is where we are." With regard to Manafort, his message to Mueller was a little more direct saying of a part of the following, "I wouldn't take it off the table. Why would I take it off the table?" Here to discuss, former U.S attorney Joe diGenova, former Clinton advisor and attorney Richard Goodstein and host of the Dan Bongino podcast and author of "Spygate," Dan Bongino. DiGenova, the president talking pardon with Manafort. A little premature for that? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: Yes, of course. And it's just the president is tweaking and trolling people and trying to get a rise out of people. That's what he does. It's part of his shtick. But the thing to me that's fascinating is, all of a sudden, the entire investigation by Mueller's is focusing on people who are lying. That's what it's always been about. But now it's really about lying, with Stone and Corsi and Flynn and everybody. Why is that happening? The answer is very simple. The original purpose of the investigation was Russian collusion. That has failed miserably. There's no evidence of it. So what is he doing now? He's charging people with lying so that he can say in his report I would have proved collusion but all these people lied and prevented me from doing it. This is the new narrative of Mueller. He's not of course mouthing it, but his actions prove conclusively that his new narrative is if these people hadn't lied to me, I would have been able to prove collusion. This is the new Russian collusion theme now. This is what he's going to do. That's going to be what the report is going to be about. INGRAHAM: But Dan Bongino, this happened on CNN today. This was Jeffrey Toobin about where this is all headed. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN CHIEF LEGAL ANALYST: We are now in the realm of possible impeachable offenses, and that is much more of a political question than a legal question. However, that shouldn't distract us from the fact that this is egregiously inappropriate behavior on the part of the president. It is all but an encouragement to Paul Manafort to stop cooperating. Take your punishment. I will take care of you later. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Dan? DAN BONGINO, FORMER NYPD OFFICER: Toobin is an embarrassment. The fact that this guy is a legal analyst, he should get a refund from his law school. I'm not sure if he's aware of the separation of powers, but the presidential pardon is a Constitutional power, Laura. I'm not sure if Toobin is aware of that, if he learned that in law school. But the reason that was implemented was so the executive branch would have some check over what were perceived gross abuses of our system. The president can do that. Having said that, Joe is right. Joe just nailed it, although I'm sure Richard will try to make the case otherwise. There is no predicate crime here, Laura. There is zero evidence of collusion, no less conspiracy to collude or any kind of a crime at all. And if Mueller was really doing his job, which he's not, he would be investigating the real Russian collusion which there is actual evidence of which is collusion between the Hillary team and Russians. There is real evidence of that, by the way, which we can document. INGRAHAM: Richard, it came up tonight that they are upset about Manafort's Ukrainian business dealings, which I guess go back some years involving a lot of different people, including one Russian oligarch that is so mad that he is suing Manafort I think for $10 million that he thinks he got ripped off. But how did we get here? Where is all this thought of Russian collusion? We're talking about Russian meddling and it was all being coordinated, one would think, out of Trump headquarters, and now poor old Jerome Corsi. This is where it is? RICHARD GOODSTEIN, FORMER CLINTON ADVISER: Can we talk about this McCarthyism charges for a second? INGRAHAM: So you don't want to address -- GOODSTEIN: I will get back to it. Just one second. INGRAHAM: OK. GOODSTEIN: I don't think Donald Trump knows what McCarthyism is. McCarthyism was when you're making charges without evidence. And all Mueller is doing is having evidence to back up charges. He wouldn't be getting all these convictions and pleas and indictments if he wasn't able to take his evidence to a grand jury or a petty jury. And I think he is talking about browbeating. That's what he seems to be complaining about. And I don't remember either of you complaining when Ken Starr basically set up Monica Lewinsky, got her in a room, had her crying, wouldn't let her see a lawyer. Somehow I don't remember Starr's sympathizers complaining about that, what Donald Trump is complaining about now. INGRAHAM: I think that is a fair point. And I have actually addressed that as someone who's had some time to think about this. And I think prosecutors exist to get convictions. There are some good prosecutors out there, but what I'm saying is let's step back a minute and see where this started, how it started, and whether we are seeing from some maybe well- intentioned people some really egregious abuses of prosecutorial authority. GOODSTEIN: Here is the predicate that I would say there are two questions that Mueller needs to answer. The WikiLeaks stolen stuff that Donald Trump trumpeted 115 times of the campaign trail, WikiLeaks, Podesta emails dropped within an hour -- INGRAHAM: It's not a crime. GOODSTEIN: It actually is, computer privacy. INGRAHAM: President Trump talking about it, obviously -- GOODSTEIN: He is using ill-gotten gains. They dropped those emails within an hour after "Access Hollywood." Was there an American involvement or did the Russians do that on their own? INGRAHAM: OK, so he's spinning a theory. We get it. GOODSTEIN: I'm just saying, there are all these bots communicated these messages like Pizza-gate to all these swing voters, is that something where there was an -- INGRAHAM: We are two years into this. We are two years into this almost and they've got nothing except an old 72-year-old guy. GOODSTEIN: They got all these indictments of all these Russians. INGRAHAM: OK, they've got all these indictments of the Russians. That's not Donald Trump. DIGENOVA: This is all about failure. This investigation is a complete failure. The purpose was to investigate a conspiracy between the Trump campaign or the president and the Russians. There is absolutely no evidence of that in any of the cases that he has brought. That is why he is now focusing on these side characters to accuse him of lying or perjury because his narrative is going to be I couldn't prove collusion because they wouldn't let me. This is where we are. This is the pathetic state of Mueller's handling of this. This is an embarrassment. INGRAHAM: We've got 30 seconds. Can anyone be sanctioned in the Justice Department for how this has gone down, or in Mueller's team? DIGENOVA: This requires a federal grand jury to investigate the conduct. INGRAHAM: Where is our attorney general? DIGENOVA: We need one right now. GOODSTEIN: Let's see what the report says, please. We are speculating wildly about something we don't really know -- DIGENOVA: I know what it's going to say -- they wouldn't let me do my job. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, I want another hour of this whole panel. It's so great. INGRAHAM: It is time for a palate cleanser. It's time for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we explore the big cultural stories of the day. Canceled sitcom, the first lady's Christmas trees, and a demonic children's clothing line from a famous singer, no doubt. Joining us now with all the details, Raymond Arroyo FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series, beautiful covers. Raymond illustrated them himself. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: No, I didn't. INGRAHAM: Didn't I approve any of those covers? ARROYO: Yes, you helped. INGRAHAM: OK, thank you. Raymond, let's begin with Candace Bergen's much touted "Murphy Brown" return. And? ARROYO: And it's been canceled. I want to start. It was canceled because the ratings started really low. "Rosanne" premiered with 18 million people. This thing barely broke 6 million. INGRAHAM: Lefty blue hairs are not what we want to see on TV. ARROYO: What did we say when this premiered? Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Even viewers called it strident, heavy-handed, not character driven at all. INGRAHAM: Can I say something? Two words -- not funny. ARROYO: Only 7.4 million tuned in to this premiere. Candace Bergen is using a very wooden Murphy Brown to communicate her politics, and I don't think the audience will accept this. INGRAHAM: No. Come up with a new idea. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Well, they haven't accepted it. It's been canceled, as we prophesied. The problem here, Laura, is it went so political. It wasn't about the characters. He was about the politics. This is a recent episode all about ICE and migrants. Watch. INGRAHAM: Oh, no. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We received a call from a neighbor here about a taco truck. Seems the truck belongs to a Carlos and Maria Gonzales, undocumented immigrants, outstanding removal order. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You guys cannot barge in here like this. I know that you are used to dealing with people who are scared and vulnerable, but if you don't get out of this truck, I will spatchcock you. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: This is so tired, the timing. Charlie McCarthy has more on the ball today than she does. INGRAHAM: God bless Candace Bergen. She is too shot up to get it -- ARROYO: She was very candid with Joy Behar the other day about what this whole series was really about. It was all political. INGRAHAM: To get Trump. ARROYO: Yes. INGRAHAM: What did she say? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CANDACE BERGEN, ACTRESS: If the election had gone differently, we would not have brought it back. JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": So it's because of Trump that it's back. Is that what you're saying? BERGEN: Yes, it is. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Without Trump there wouldn't have been a show. Diane English, the creator, says we are not really canceled. We always wanted 13 episodes. We may be back. Don't worry. "Designing Women" and "Cagney and Lacey" are coming back. I don't think they're going to make it either. Let's move on to something really scary. INGRAHAM: This new general neutral clothing line. ARROYO: Yes. INGRAHAM: Singer Celine Dion let them have those things. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: It's pushing. No one gets that joke except us. But what's going on. ARROYO: This line is called website Celine Nununu. I swear to God. INGRAHAM: What? ARROYO: Celine Nununu. And this is the website. It says to liberate children from the traditional roles of boy and girl. It's to amplify the discussion about a humanistic education which is gender free. She rolled out this new fashion line, and it's in conjunction with an Israeli fashion line, with this very bizarre ad. She walks into maternity ward, blows glitter around the room. All the boys are in blue, the girls are in pink. Not after she does her magic. And then in one of the bassinets, this big voodoo doll appears. It's a very strange line. You see it on the right- hand side of your screen. See it? INGRAHAM: Why is that enticing for a clothing line? ARROYO: Let me show you the bizarre fashions, OK? These are gender- neutral, but they are very dark. There are skulls in the collection. Why would you put babies in skulls I don't know. INGRAHAM: Planned Parenthood. ARROYO: There's this all-seeing eye that's a big thing with -- INGRAHAM: Is that the Antifa child? What was that? ARROYO: Bizarre. And this group, this Nununu, they have demonic designs with horns, hoodies for kids. INGRAHAM: I thought it was Halloween costumes. ARROYO: It's very dark. Look at this. This from their Instagram page. INGRAHAM: That looks like something out of "The Wizard of Oz" with the Lollipop Guild, the Lullaby League came up. ARROYO: Celine Dion and the founders of this brand explained themselves in a CNN interview. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are at Celine Nununu trying to shape the future of all human beings by saying find your own individuality. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We bring a new order as a concept into the world. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know what, you don't know what they are going to become later, and you don't want for them to have a problem of growth. And say I am supposed to be like that, I am supposed to say that, I'm supposed to dress like this could because I am a guy, a boy. I'm supposed to do -- no. No. You don't know. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: I think that's what people are going to say about this line. Celine, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. INGRAHAM: This is going to go the way of "Murphy Brown." It's all going to be rejected by the customers. I don't even understand it. ARROYO: Unless you are a member of the Addams Family or a satanic cult, why would you dress your infant in this wear? INGRAHAM: But they admitted what their goals are. ARROYO: A new order. INGRAHAM: They want a new order. They want to effect the culture, change the way people -- ARROYO: Her heart may go on. Her sales are going to go the way of the Titanic. INGRAHAM: Who are the helping hands organizations, Raymond, do you think. This is a tease. ARROYO: You're moving on. INGRAHAM: I am moving on. ARROYO: Wait a minute, I want to an insignia. I saw it has the crocodile. I want the sinking ship from Titanic, because that's where this line is headed. Now you can go on to your next segment. Melania Trump and her response to the Christmas decoration-gate. We are doing that on FOX Nation, so watch for that. INGRAHAM: Fox Nation. Have we already done that? ARROYO: We're out of time. INGRAHAM: We're out of time. Who are the helping hands? They're organizing and funding these migrant caravans that are wreaking havoc at our southern border. We have an "Ingraham Angle" continuing investigation. We will bring you the latest next. INGRAHAM: Time now for and "Ingraham Angle" investigation. Who are the people behind these caravans that many think are wreaking havoc at the southern border? There are certain groups, many inside our own country, who are the chief drivers of these efforts. At the tip of the sphere is an advocacy group known as Pueblo Sin Fronteras, and we have highlighted them many times on the show. Pretty much before anyone was talking about them, we were. And they are described on their home page as, quote, "a collective of friends in permanent solidarity with displaced peoples." Sounds pretty nice. And the folks in charge of the group, Roberto Corona, he's a Mexican born American and founder of Pueblo Sin Fronteras. Irineo Mujica is a dual Mexican-American citizen who was actually arrested in Mexico earlier in the last month after he obstructed Mexican police efforts. And finally, there is the American Alex Mensing. He's an American project coordinator with Pueblo in San Francisco. It doesn't stop there. PSF is a sister group to the Chicago-based entity Centro Sin Fronteras. "Fronteras" is the word for borders in Spanish. And that's led by an activist, fairly left wing, known as Emma Lozano. She doubles as the pastor at the Lincoln United Methodist Church in Chicago. Last night we told you how these church groups can often be used to blur the lines between religion and activism. Catholic church, a lot of people know I'm a Catholic, they get almost $100 million a year to resettle refugees and migrants across the United States. What we laid out is just a small part, though, tonight of the Fronteras web, and we will continue to expose in the days and weeks ahead those groups and individuals who were involved in this. And they helped organize the caravans starting in Honduras and Guatemala, and also American immigration lawyers at the same time are also involved. And joining us now, we are delighted they are with us, their vice president Allen Orr joins us along with investigative reporter Hayden Ludwig, who recently took a deep dive into the activists behind the caravan efforts. Gentlemen, thanks for being here tonight. Allen, let's start with you. The argument from some, and I am one of them, is that this seems to go beyond charitable efforts to help those in need to actually organizing people in foreign countries in large groups to eventually overwhelm our southern border. Is that accurate? ALLEN ORR, VICE PRESIDENT, AMERICAN IMMIGRATION LAWYERS ASSOCIATION: It really depends. For American immigration lawyers, we are not in foreign countries. What we are doing is addressing individuals, either women, children, men who have been detained in the United States. So we are not doing the outreach abroad. INGRAHAM: There are some lawyers, American lawyers. ORR: But hey are not part of our organization. That's not on behalf of our organization that are doing that. And those people who call themselves good Samaritans that are doing that what they feel to be God's work, don't necessarily -- INGRAHAM: A lot of them are doing the coaching, though. We've exposed this before. Lawyers from San Francisco, we try to get them on the show, they won't come on, who are literally down in these camps saying this is how the process goes. You have to show a credible fear. This is what credible fear looks like. It's basically coaching people. ORR: Some of it is coaching, some of it is being a lawyer, because as a lawyer we advise people what they need to do to meet the criteria. INGRAHAM: You can't advise them to lie. ORR: Not to lie, but we can tell them what the criteria is for them to be able to get into the country. INGRAHAM: Most of the people, though, are economic migrants. And 85, 90 percent of their claims are rejected, and they were under Obama and they are under Trump. So these are overwhelmingly economic migrants who want to be here, be with family members, friends, or work here, and/or all of those. ORR: Right. And so the issue is if they really are economic migrants, they why not just process them, deny the cases, and send them back out. So that's really a U.S. border processing issue, not that of the migrant. So if the migrant walks in and says I'm here to work, then we should be able to say, OK, no, that's not one of the reasons for the grounds to stay here. So as lawyers, we are saying open up the ports and process the individuals. Don't send the military. Send judges and social workers. INGRAHAM: Let's talk about where this is from the Mexican standpoint here. Interesting polling that came out today, at least I saw it today, 55 percent support tougher measures in future caravans, these are Mexican, 52 percent support blocking them from entering the country without legal documentation, and that's "El Universal" which is a very, very big Mexican newspaper. I actually read part of this in Spanish. I am really trying to get my Spanish back. It's not quite there yet. But what about how this is playing in Mexico, on the Mexican side, because it seems like every reporter down there is telling tales of woe in Tijuana. HAYDEN LUDWIG, ANALYST, CAPITAL RESEARCH CENTER: Mexico is paying the price, right? Ultimately, as Tucker Carlson has pointed out, it's piles of garbage that are being left over by this massive caravan of thousands of people moving up from Central America. They haven't crossed over into the United States yet. So it's Mexico that they are sitting in, and the Mexican people are paying the price for that. And they want these people to follow Mexican law. They have already shown a disdain for Mexican national sovereignty by violating their borders and going into Mexico. INGRAHAM: Yesterday in "The Angle" I pointed section 1324-18-USC, which is basically a very serious criminal provision that can be violated by anyone who is knowingly aiding and abetting those to come here to game the system, violate our immigration laws. It would be serious, and serious repercussions if someone dies as a result of illegal efforts. There are laws on the books that exist that can be used to prosecute individuals who help conspired to violate immigration law. Is there anything that you have found in your investigative reporting that would indicate that there is rampant legal problems with what's being done on the so-called humanitarian side? LUDWIG: I think in the United States, you have organizations, you pointed out two of them. There is a third one, La Familia Latina Unita, United Latin Family, that's right. And that organization, all three of them, they are pushing what a nonprofit can get away with. Emma Lozano, who runs Pueblo Centro and La Familia, for instance, has endorsed candidates for public office, J.B. Pritzker for Illinois governor just recently, using United Methodist Church letterhead. So these organizations in the United States have shown a massive disdain for what nonprofits should be engaging in, both religious and secular nonprofits. INGRAHAM: Allen, a lot of these churches, Methodist Church, Lutheran Church, Catholic Church, they want pews. They want people and bodies in the pews. And her church, I believe the registered 1,600 DACA members -- 600, excuse me. ORR: Helped them with their applications, absolutely. INGRAHAM: So we're saying, is it a church, is it an activist group, community organizing? It's kind of a lot of things at once. ORR: Absolutely. INGRAHAM: What are the motivations here, and are there legal ramifications when some of this so-called activism is really organizing people in wide- ranging violations of U.S. immigration? ORR: I will not say there are not people who don't violate the law, immigrants who violate the code and individuals who do. But that is not rampant overall. But I will tell you is that Mexico, while they are saying all these things about immigrants, are absorbing them. They're giving them jobs. INGRAHAM: They are trying to give them asylum and a lot of them aren't taking it. Gentlemen, we'll continue this. Thank you so much. We will right back. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Oh, well, the show was so good, last segment so good that we don't have time for a last bite, which is very upsetting. But have no fear because Shannon Bream and the FOX NEWS @ NIGHT team take it from here. Load-Date: November 29, 2018 End of Document Polls Are Closed in Mississippi Senate Run-Off; Exposing Mueller's Witch- Hunt Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 27, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7480 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Peter Doocy, Jesse Watters, Jessica Tarlov Guests: Lindsey Graham, Herman Cain, Joe DiGenova Body Update on Clinton Foundation Scandal; Interview with Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina; New Developments in Crisis on Southern Border; Roger Stone's Friend, Jerome Corsi, is Now Involved in the Intertwined Russia Probe where Special Counsel Bob Mueller Says They Got E- mails from Him Talking about the WikiLeaks; HHS Secretary Nielsen Said in an Exclusive Interview that the Caravan at the Southern Border is Growing and It is Important to Impose Tough Restrictions so that Illegal Immigrants Could Not Get in to the U.S.; The Left-Wing Media Can't Give Christmas a Pass for Mocking First Lady Melania Trump's Christmas Decorations at the White House; The Polls in Mississippi are Now Closed and Recent Number Shows that Cindy Hyde-Smith is Leading Versus Her Democrat Opponent Mike Espy SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Thanks as always. Welcome to "Hannity". And this is a FOX News alert: polls are closed across the great state of Mississippi. We are currently monitoring the results out of what will be the last Senate seat to be decided. We hope to make that call during this hour. We hope you stay tuned. But, first, big news as it relates to the Mueller witch hunt. Coming up tonight, we're going to show you how two individuals are literally standing up to Mueller's coercion and what we call test the lie tactics. And we'll expose a fake story accusing Paul Manafort of having secret meetings with Julian Assange. Nothing more than a conspiracy theory and literally peak Russia collusion hysteria at its worse. The reporting has been atrocious. And also tonight, we have an important update on an actual scandal surrounding this sketchy Clinton Foundation. And we're going to bring you the very latest from the crisis at our southern border. Tonight, we will expose some of the almost unbelievable hypocrisy from America's left and your mainstream media. Senator Lindsey Graham is here to weigh in on that. Also, the Homeland Security Secretary Nielsen, she will join us tonight. Sit tight, buckle up. Glad you're with us. Time, we begin our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Tonight, it appears another so-called Russian bombshell has fallen completely flat. "The Guardian" today reported without any evidence, vague sourcing, that former Trump campaign manager, Paul Manafort, and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange met multiple between 2013 and 2016 at the Ecuadorian embassy in London. Well, tonight, Paul Manafort is strongly denying all of that, firing back in a powerful statement that reads, quote: This story is totally false, deliberately libelous. I have never met Julian Assange or anyone connected to him. I have never been contacted by anyone connected to WikiLeaks either directly or indirectly. I have never reached out to Assange or WikiLeaks on any matter. Now, Manafort is also vowing to pursue all legal options against that paper. And WikiLeaks, by the way, they are even going further tonight. They tweeted, quote, willing to bet "The Guardian" a million dollars and its editor's head that Manafort never met Assange. Assange, too, rightly so, moving ahead on possible legal action, in addition to being absolutely rebuffed by both parties involved. What's fascinating is "The Guardian's" story filled with serious flaws. And, by the way, no evidence of any meetings, vaguely described sources, and none on the record. Remember, the Ecuadorian embassy in London is one of the most surveilled and secured buildings in the world. I know. I went there. I interviewed Julian Assange in January of 2017. Visitors are monitored. They are photographed, videotaped by multiple governments. And now, "The Guardian" is being accused of quietly stealth editing the story. The paper actually altered their own headlines, adding words, sources say. They didn't have that in beginning and they softened key elements of the language just hours after receiving all the backlash. And while the fake news media jumps on anything, everything Russia, except Hillary's phony dossier, regardless of any actual evidence, President Trump is not backing down. And today, he had sharp words for Robert Mueller. He tweeted, quote: The phony witch hunt continues but Mueller and his gang of angry Democrats are only looking at one side, not the other. Wait until it comes out how horribly and viciously they are treating people, ruining lives for them refusing to lie. Mueller is a conflicted prosecutor gone rogue. And then Trump continued, quote: And the fake news media builds Bob Mueller up as a saint when in actuality, he is the exact opposite. He is doing tremendous damage to our criminal justice system where he is only looking at one side, not the other. Heroes will come of this, and it won't be Mueller and his terrible gang of angry Democrats. Look at their past, look where they come from. And look at this, $30 million, the witch hunt continues. They've got nothing but ruined lives. Where is the server? Meaning Hillary's server. Let these terrible people go back to the Clinton Foundation and the Justice Department. Still, President Trump is letting the process play out. He told "The Washington Post" tonight he has no intention of stopping the investigation. But the president's concerns are being echoed by legal scholars like Alan Dershowitz, who warned today about what Mueller's true motives really are. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALAN DERSHOWIZ, LEGAL SCHOLAR: Mueller is not going to produce a neutral report. He is not going to be fair. He is going to produce what he believes is going to be a devastating attack. He is going to put together everything. He is going to use information from Manafort and others without necessarily disclosing that there they are liars. And so, the president's team has to be read ready. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: This is exactly what I have been saying on this program from the get-go. Our own Gregg Jarrett has explained what we're witnessing now is the classic Mueller, Andrew Weissmann, pit bull tactics, using threats, coercion, to get people to what we call test the lie. In other words, tell us what we want to hear. And guess what? We're going to go easy on you. And, by the way, if you don't tell us what we want to hear, well, you might spend the rest of your life in jail. But look what's happening. This is fascinating. Paul Manafort and Jerome Corsi, they are now taking a stand. They're refusing to cooperate and go along with the test the lie scheme. They're not willing to tell a story that they want told. Even both of them, elderly men, risking life in prison. And they could say exactly what these rogue prosecutors want to save themselves. But, clearly, their conscious refuses to allow them to lie. CNN reporting that Robert Mueller has his hands on 2016 e-mail communications between Corsi and Roger Stone, supposedly showing some attempt from Stone to seek information from WikiLeaks. We'll see how this plays out as Mueller continues to turn the screws on both Corsi and Stone. One thing as I have read it, it doesn't show that they knew anything was stolen in any way by anybody. Anyone ever hear of the Pentagon papers? Just a thought. Remember, it is now day 559 of Mueller's "destroy Trump" witch hunt. Zero evidence, zero, of Trump/Russia collusion. We got, oh, lying to the FBI, lying to prosecutors, lying on loan applications, didn't pay your taxes. Where is the collusion? Why not go after Hillary? What we are seeing is a two-tiered justice system? Hillary Clinton paid for phony Russian lies that were fed to you, the American people, to influence the 2016 election and no legal consequences? President Trump, everyone associated with him, they turn the screws ever so tight, Mueller and his merry band of partisan investigators with a horrific track record. It's a travesty of justice. It is the biggest abuse of power corruption scandal we've had. Never mind Hillary Clinton from the get-go got exonerated, no real investigation. They were writing her exoneration in May and they didn't interview her and 17 other people until July. She committed obvious and clear felonies including obstruction when she deleted, and she acid washed and then busted up devices. But America's left and their friends in the mainstream media, they can't get enough. But they never talk about the dual justice system, the Hillary system and then the system for the rest of us, completely obsessed with a phony Trump- Russia collusion theory. And meanwhile, the destroy Trump press is all but ignoring the major scandal surrounding what might be the world's sketchiest, so-called charity. The Clinton Foundation back in the news. Federal investigation is now currently under way into Bill and Hillary's prized so-called nonprofit organization. FBI agents who are seeking to determine whether or not the Clintons employed an elicit play-to-pay scheme for years. Remember, during Hillary's tenure as then-senator and then-secretary of state and during her two runs for the presidency, that foundation raked in tens and tens of millions of dollars. Many of the largest donations coming from foreign governments. We're talking about millions of dollars from Australia, Norway, the Netherlands, Ireland. And remember, Hillary Clinton's, you know, claim to be the champion of women during the 2017 campaign, her foundation took in tens and tens of millions of dollars from countries with the most despicable, disgusting, horrific human rights records, Middle Eastern countries practicing Sharia, treating women like second and third-class citizens and worse. And the Clinton Foundation taking between $10 million and $25 million from Saudi Arabia -- forbids women from traveling without a male guardian's permission, persecutes Christians and Jews and literally gives the death penalty to gays and lesbians. What did they do? They took millions from these countries and they bought the Clinton silence and they took more from Kuwait and Qatar, Brunei and Oman and UAE, Algeria. They bought her silence. She never criticized those atrocious human rights records like we have regularly on this show. And in 2016, alone, the foundation took in a whopping -- get this -- the year she is running, $62 million. In 2017, after Clinton's devastating loss to Donald Trump, her foundation only received $26 million in donations. Oh, that's a huge, massive drop, and that's because after it became clear that Hillary Clinton would never be president. So what were all those big donors hoping to gain from their enormous deposits into the Clinton Foundation? Looks to me like that's called access, pay to play, paid access at the highest levels of our federal government. Imagine for a second Donald Trump ever did this. You are buying access that no other law-abide be citizen would ever dream of. Do you think they get invitations to the White House? Do you think they get access to the president if she had won? Access to the Senate seat when she had that, the State Department when she was secretary of state? If everything went according to plan, access to the Oval Office? Of course, everything didn't go according to plan and Hillary Clinton lost because you, we, the people -- well, Donald Trump became president in spite of all the deep state's effort to prevent that from happening. Now, they are delegitimizing and, frankly, we will see in the next two years nothing but an all-out effort and assault to destroy the presidency of Donald Trump. And now, we have the opportunity to uncover what looks like a completely corrupt pay to play scheme that should have no place in this constitutional republic of ours. And the mainstream media, they choose to ignore this developing scandal. Of course, they are all things Democratic. They are an extension of the Democratic Party. They are too busy covering Stormy, Stormy, and shh- hole, shh-hole, et cetera. They don't want to cover the crisis at the southern border, at least not in a fair and honest way. Now, thousands of migrants have arrived south of San Diego. The biased press can no longer ignore the serious situation or pretend it is some grand conspiracy theory cooked up by the GOP to get votes in the midterms. Instead, the media's echo chamber is spinning out of control over the use of non-lethal tear gas. Why? To disperse a massive group of migrants that attempted to break all of our laws, rush the border and many assaulting our own border patrol with rocks and bottles and other projectiles. And we have it on tape. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN: Bad things breaking out at the San Ysidro port of entry near Tijuana. The president falsely described the caravan as an invasion. Now, he seems intent on trying to make it as ugly as he imagined it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is there any defense for using tear gas on children? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What Americans really should be, especially Trump supporters, people who, you know, don't quite see the inhumanity that's going on here, who maybe think that 3-year-olds need tear gas. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There has got to be a pragmatic and compassionate answer here that does not involve tear gassing children. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We look at children get subjected to tear gas. That's the United States causing that. That's outrageous. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He wants that chaos on the border as he continues to treat these people, so many of whom are leaving violent lives in Central America, like terrorists. They're bad some people, yes, like bad 4-year- old that got teargassed the other day. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And as you can see, your mainstream media doing anything, everything to vilify President Trump and his administration over the crisis at our southern border. However, as per usual, they have completely failed to tell the whole truth. Look at the study tonight from NewsBusters. Last night, networks totally ignored the use of tear gas during the Obama administration. Do you remember this kind of hysteria? A report from "The Washington Times" shows that, oh, tear gas was used about once a month during Barack Obama's time in offense in order to repel migrants at the border. Once a month. Think about that. Isn't that all you need to really know about the bias of the media in this country? There was no monthly outrage over the actions of the Obama administration, no grandstanding, no dramatic pleas for civility, no talk about women and children. This shows without any shadow of a doubt, the destroy Trump press, and that's who they are, are willing to do and say anything and everything to damage the administration. This has been two years and ongoing, many on the left try to paint the Trump administration as monsters. The statistics, the truth, history tells a much different story. In fact, 100,000 asylum claims were processed last year under the Trump administration. By the way, that happens to be a record-setting amount. That's up 6,000 from Obama's final year in office. Under the Trump immigration application, into the United States they have surged, probably because of the better economy. Unfortunately, this causes serious back logs and we now are currently at 786,000 pending immigration cases. Now, keep in mind, the U.S. has received 160,000 asylum cases this year, compared to just 42,000 in 2008. A good economy, again. As of September, there were 42,000 likely illegal immigrants held in ICE detention facilities despite only enough funding and capacity for 40,000 people. Now, the president has requested more funding for ICE. But as we know and as we can see, America's immigration resources are stretched extremely thin. They are operating at maximum capacity. This makes the situation at our southern border even more serious and more dangerous for those people that put their lives on the line to protect our country, or sovereignty, our borders, our rule of law. None of this seems to matter to the left. The president is working hard to improve the lives of our American people, and our immigration system, strengthen our borders, ask people to respect our laws. And the left is working overtime to destroy the reputation of the Trump administration. No conspiracy is too absurd for them, no lie too egregious, no rhetoric too disgusting. And when Democrats take control of the House, in a few short weeks, I digress here a second, when they do, oh, we have great things planned. It's only going to get worse, mark my words. Two years, never-ending nonstop attacks, nonstop investigation. What are they going to do for you, we, the people, to improve the economy and our security, to bring us to energy independence? Probably nothing. Here now with more on the serious ongoing situation at the southern border, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. You know what's amazing as you watch -- SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Yes. HANNITY: First, you see the statistics in the Obama years and all the times they used tear gas. Do you remember any reports, any hysteria from the media about that? GRAHAM: Well, number one, no. How long does it take you to figure this out? When it comes to Obama, when he uses tear gas, he is protecting the country. The narrative is that Trump is a cruel, heartless bastard only works if he used his tear gas on kids, and it undercuts the argument that Obama administration used tear gas to protect our border from being overrun. The question for the country is, what do you say to the people who shot the canisters? I stand behind the men and women on the border standing between us and people that want to cross illegally. When you are slamming the tear gas, you are slamming the people we put on the border to protect us. That's what disgusts me the most. HANNITY: What are we -- what are they supposed to do, when rocking and bottles are being pelted at them? What are we supposed to do when they are breaking down barriers and want to rush the border? This is what we were warning about before the election. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: And it's now coming to pass. There are thousands more still coming. GRAHAM: Well, I have been a lawyer in the military most of my adult life. You use the least amount of force possible to protect you and secure the mission. The mission is to protect the border from being overrun. So, tear gas keeps the people apart. You don't get in a fight. That's a good thing. The bottom line is Donald Trump was right to call the caravan out weeks ago. He is right to make sure it never crosses the border. People throughout the world are watching the president. If he blinks here, his credibility on securing the border is dead. He is not going to blink. To my Democratic friends, how go you expect the public to work with us to fix a broken immigration system if you support one wave after another? A lot is at stake here. The president is not going to bend. He's not going to back down. I hope the Republicans and Congress will stand behind him. HANNITY: So, President Obama tear gases people on a monthly basis. We now have literally and we'll talk to Kirstjen Nielsen, secretary of homeland security, we have identified -- Mexico, too, has identified at least 500, maybe 600 criminals coming across that border that have integrated themselves into the migrant population. And that means -- when I sat through a briefing with Rick Perry in Texas when he was governor, a security briefing that Obama should have been at, when I sat through it, they had a seven-year period of time, 642,000 crimes committed against Texans. Some minor, many serious, including murder. I have interviewed angel moms and dads more than I ever wanted to in my whole life, lost their lives to illegal immigrants that were -- that we even had in our justice system and never deported. At what point does the government bear the responsibility that they didn't do their job and enforce the law? What culpability do they have? GRAHAM: Well, I think we have a lot of culpability as a nation from ignoring this problem. You know, doing the same old thing and expecting a different outcome is insanity. President Trump is going to stop the caravan. The next ones coming won't come if this one is stopped. He will shut down the border if he has to. Democrats should give him the money he needs to secure the border. If they deny him the funding to secure our border, President Trump is going to push back and fight back. This is a day of reckoning for the American people. What message do you want to send to the rest of the world about our border? If you want to be open borders, this is your chance. If you want to stand firm, this is also your opportunity and I hope Democrats understand you have got to really hate Trump to not see this caravan is a problem for the American people? HANNITY: Let me ask you a last question about Mueller. The president said he is not going to stop this, never had any plans. He said it numerous times now. At this point, how do we justify as a nation that believes in a constitutional republic, we agree in equal application of our laws, equal justice under the law and Hillary used paid for phony Russians lies to influence the American people. That was used as a fraud on the FISA court, would never verify or corroborated. Hillary never identified as having paid for it. And then it goes further and it is used as part of a leak strategy. The bulk of information according to yours and Charles Grassley's memo used to obtain the FISA warrants. Why has Mueller, if he cares about Russian interference, she paid for it, why is that not an issue? GRAHAM: Well, you can't blame Mueller. It is not his charter to look at that. I do blame -- HANNITY: Whoa. Why is it not? If he is looking for Russia collusion, why is that not within his mandate when somebody's loan application is within his mandate? GRAHAM: It might be. I blame the Department of Justice for not appointing a special counsel to look at the FISA warrant. They really got away with a lot here. And if I'm chairman of the committee next year, we are going to look at FISA warrant problem. I promise you we will. HANNITY: You're going to get to the bottom of that. You also -- could we get to the bottom of Hillary's e-mails and destruction of e-mails? GRAHAM: We need a special counsel to look at all of this. Why was the FBI in the tank for Clinton? Did they have a political bias? This screams for a special counsel. That's why Trump was so upset at the Sessions Department of Justice. HANNITY: Lindsey Graham, Senator, thank you for being with us. When we come back, we'll go live to Mississippi. We're waiting on the results of this crucial last Senate race, and we'll have more on Mueller witch hunt. Don't go anywhere. Joe diGenova, Herman Cain -- they are next, straight ahead. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with the latest news on the high stakes Mississippi Senate election, FOX News correspondent, our friend, Peter Doocy, is there on the ground. I'm getting some anecdotal reports about turnout in more Republicans areas versus Democratic areas. What I've heard, and I hope you can confirm, Democratic strongholds didn't maybe have the bounce that would be needed to win in Mississippi. PETER DOOCY, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: From what I saw a minute ago, it doesn't sound like enough of certain counties are in yet to know for sure. So, that is the case in some places, maybe not in others. But it was interesting, Sean. This morning, we drove from Gulfport here to Jackson, it's a couple hours. And just about everywhere we went on the side of the road, there were these big flashing billboards that said vote again. And now we do know generally how many people got a message to go and cast a ballot for the second time in three weeks. It was 30 percent to 40 percent of registered voters in Mississippi according to state officials who are saying it started out slow and steady but it really picked up towards the end of the day. Right now, the Democrat, not far from here, the Democrat Mike Espy, is having his election night event at the Mississippi Civil Rights Museum. We understand he is on site watching returns that could make him the first African-American senator elected in Mississippi since Reconstruction. Cindy Hyde-Smith meanwhile trying to make history of herself as the first- ever woman elected to the Senate from Mississippi. And she is waiting to see if voters who said they were offended by a joke that she made about a public hanging voted in larger number than people who took it as a joke. Her supporters did something at the last minute, too. They tried to shine a light on a Clinton era indictment against Mike Espy and last night some of the people introducing the president and Cindy Hyde- Smith came to the stage to say he had to leave, Espy had to leave as Clinton's agriculture secretary because, they said, he was too corrupt for the Clintons. We'll see which argument was stronger shortly -- Sean. HANNITY: All right. Peter, listen, please tell me when you talk to your dad and that, please ask him why I was dumped on page 184 of his latest book? I was dumped at the very end, as an afterthought. DOOCY: I call him. I text him. I think you are with the entrees. It goes in the order of a meal, Sean. HANNITY: Yes, he didn't ask for an entree. He asked me from -- you know, whatever, I wasn't the appetizer. Peter, we'll be checking back with you, monitoring all the results out of Mississippi. We'll bring you any numbers as they come in. They are notoriously slow, unfortunately. We are hoping they come in soon. First, earlier tonight, Jerome Corsi sat down with our own Tucker Carlson. He was discussing his experience dealing with team Mueller. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEROME CORSI, CONSERVATIVE AUTHOR: Everything they wanted, I had nothing to hide. I gave it to them immediately. And for having forgotten on day one, because I hadn't reviewed the e-mail, this particular e-mail about Ted Malloch, I'm now being charged with willfully and knowingly giving false information, which is nonsense. CARLSON: Do you think that your political views are playing a role in the decision of the special counsel to charge you with a felony? CORSI: Yes, I think. And also, by the way, they accused me of deleting the e-mails. And I told them to restore -- they restored the emails I supposedly deleted through the time machine. This is a political witch- hunt. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Here with reaction, former U.S. attorney for the district of Columbia, Joe DiGenova, and America Fighting Back chairman, Herman Cain. Joe, let's go, this is pretty profound. We call it. Test the lie, and what -- what usually happens is, you sit down and they say, listen, if you don't want to spend 10 years, the rest of your life in jail, we need information. So, they make a deal and usually, sadly, often is the case, Joe, tell me if I'm wrong, they are basically telling you what they want to hear. And Paul Manafort and Jerome Corsi, from my observation, are refusing to tell them what they want to hear even though they would benefit probably dramatically and may both face life in prison. But they are refusing to capitulate. Is that accurate? Is that probably accurate? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY, COLUMBIA: Yes, I think it is. And I think we can tell right now from the manner in which the Mueller investigation has failed, utterly failed to produce any evidence of collusion between the Russian government and the Trump campaign or President Trump himself. And so, now what they are doing is they are in spasms of vindictive prosecution, unethical prosecution just to get somebody to get something to get close to the president. It is outrageous. I hope that the next attorney general, the permanent attorney general, who I hope the president will nominate soon, will take control of this. And one of the first things he should do, the new attorney general, after sworn in, is have a meeting with Mr. Mueller, find out what's going on, where he is going and when he is going to end. That is a duty that the next attorney general has, because this investigation by Mueller is unconstitutional, it is founded on no crime, it is created by Rod Rosenstein because he is a gutless, duplicitous failure of a deputy attorney general. He should be ashamed of himself. And the new attorney general should fire Rosenstein ASAP. HANNITY: You know, Herman, people ask, why do you bring up Clinton? Number one, these very same people that have attacked this president, you know, Peter Strzok, Page, Comey, they all set this up. And the reason is they allowed Hillary to get away with what were known crimes, and obstruction, and a violation of the Espionage Act. It's now incontrovertible. And that's the point. And then she paid for the phony Russian dossier that even Steele never stood by, went under oath and in derogatory in Great Britain. And yet, FISA court, FISA courts were lied to, information withheld, nothing was verified. And then, Russian lies fed to the American people paid for by her. How does that get ignored and we have no evidence here ever of any Trump/Russia collusion? HERMAN CAIN, CHAIRMAN, AMERICA FIGHTING BACK: It gets ignored because of hypocrisy on steroids. Jerome Corsi is one of the most honest, honorable individuals on the planet. No one can remember ever word, every nuance of everything that they may have said over the last 10 years. No human being on earth. But when they get an opportunity to dig through dozens and dozens and thousands and thousands of pages of comments, they will pick out one thing that they want to use to run up the flag pole in order to try to make a case out of it. This is nothing but a witch hunt looking for a witch and they haven't found a witch in nearly two years, Sean. That's all it is. HANNITY: I believe, Joe, if Jerome Corsi wanted to make it easy on himself, Paul Manafort wanted a lesser sentence. All they had to do was say what was wanted. (CROSSTALK) DIGENOVA: Of course. HANNITY: And by the way, we have Mueller and his Pitbull, Weissmann, have a history of this. DIGENOVA: Well, here is the deal. You are absolutely right. Both of these men could give Mueller the lies that he wants if they wanted to make life easy for themselves. But you bring up Weissmann. Let's remember, Andrew Weissmann has a reputation for being one of the most unethical prosecutors in the country. He has been rebuked many times. Here's the thing. Remember, Andrew Weissmann showed up at Hillary Clinton's victory party on election night. HANNITY: Yes. DIGENOVA: He sent Sally Yates an e-mail saying, bravo, for violating an order of the president of the United States when she refused to enforce the travel ban. HANNITY: It's a disgrace. DIGENOVA: That tells you why Mueller's team is compromised, conflicted, ethically in every conceivable way and it's a disgrace that Bob Mueller hired no Republicans and all Democrats who are Clintonistas. HANNITY: All right. Thank you both. Powerful testimony from both of you. We'll follow this closely. When we come back, my exclusive interview with homeland security secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen. What the destroy- Trump media doesn't want you to know about the border, next. HANNITY: All right. There is a Fox News alert as we continue to monitor the Senate election results out of Mississippi at this hour. Cindy Hyde- Smith leads 55.8 percent to 44.2 percent. Thirty-eight percent of the precincts are reporting. And we will continue to update you throughout the hour as these important results come in. Big difference here. It is either going to be 53-47 in the U.S. Senate, Republican advantage, or 52-48. A big difference for confirmations, big difference as it relates to Supreme Court justices that are trying to be confirmed. First, we go back to the crisis on our southern border. The H.S. Secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen, released a statement yesterday saying the migrant caravan is, quote, "far larger, more organized than previous once." Earlier, I sat down with the secretary to talk about this and so much more. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: Joining us now is Secretary Nielsen. Madam Secretary, good to see you. KIRSTJEN NIELSEN, UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY: Good to see you. HANNITY: Let's talk first about the weekend. Let me quote one border patrol chief, Carla Provost. "Our agents were being assaulted. a group rushed the area throwing rocks and bottles at my men and women putting them in harm's way." And numerous other similar reports. How bad was it? NIELSEN: Well, you know, Sean, first of all, let me just say, this is a testament to the training and professionalism of the border patrol that no one was hurt. We had 1,000 people rushing the border in a very violent and lawless way. We will not stand by as our border patrol are attacked. So, they defended themselves. HANNITY: Yes. I don't know if they have any choice. The thing is, we see now that the mayor interestingly of Tijuana said, excuse me, Trump was right. This is an invasion. And they have now had a lot of issues that they have had to deal with. But the migrants, the caravan are still coming. And they are coming in bigger numbers. What if larger numbers of people rush the border, are you-- (CROSSTALK) NIELSEN: We were-- HANNITY: -- confident you are prepared? NIELSEN: We were prepared this time. We will be prepared for any additional migrants. The president has made it quite clear. We will not tolerate illegal or violent entry into our country. So, this time, he talked about it for a month in advance as the caravans were making their way up. He raised awareness. He called in the military. He called in Concertina wire. We hardened the ports. We called in additional law enforcement, state and local and federal. And we are prepared. We will be prepared. We will not allow illegal entry into our country. HANNITY: One thing the president said, if they are going to be seeking asylum, they are not going to be in this country or allowed in this country while whatever process goes forward. One of the problems had been, people cross the border, they claim asylum, they get a court date, they are released into America and they never show up again. So, how insistent is the president that they stay in Mexico? And how are relations with Mexico considering they were told a long time ago they should be dealing with this? NIELSEN: Yes. You know, this is an important point that you raised, Sean. Ultimately, we only see about 9 percent, 10 percent of Central Americans who make an asylum claim actually be granted asylum by an immigration judge. And that's really important. That's really important to put in perspective. So, 90 percent of those making asylum claims are not making the claim that can be honored under the statutory framework within the United States, it's not a valid reason for asylum. You have heard me say it before. If you are coming to get a job, that's not a claim for asylum. If you are coming to be with your family, that's not a claim for asylum. HANNITY: Isn't it likely they are going to be coached? And if they really want asylum, didn't Mexico offer them work permits to work in South Mexico. That was apparently rejected by most. How many people are we now talking about in the remaining caravan still making its way north? NIELSEN: So, we believe there will be about 10,000 ultimately. There is between 8,000 and 10,000 now. But you're exactly right. The government of Mexico offered everyone asylum. They also offered work permits. That's why this caravan is very different than ones we've seen in the past. Not only is it violent. But to the extent that it claims that its members would like to seek asylum. They have been offered asylum but they've turned it down in Mexico. HANNITY: Let me play a shot from 60 Minutes, tis was Scott Pelley. The argument was about the separation issues and how there was a warrant for one 3-year-old. I do want to get your response to it. The president tweeted out, and we have images of even young people, when Obama was president, that are behind fences. They would say its cages if it was Donald Trump. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SCOTT PELLEY, CORRESPONDENT, CBS: The Trump administration made the decision to separate children from families. What responsibilities did they take on in your estimation? CECILIA MUNOZ, FORMER OBAMA OFFICIAL: They issued an order without consulting with the agencies who were responsible for carrying out that order. We take better care of people's effects when we send them to the jail than we took care of the children who we took from their parents. PELLEY: You quit your job at homeland security. I wonder why. SCOTT SHUCHART, FORMER DHS OFFICIAL: I had taken an oath to uphold the Constitution. We were being asked as a department to do something that violated the civil rights and civil liberties of persons. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I want to get your reaction. Wasn't it President Trump that stopped the practice through an executive order? NIELSEN: Sean, it was. But, you know, I am so disappointed in that piece. That is journalism. That's not journalism. That's factually incorrect. We did not have a policy to separate families from the children. What the president said and what all presidents have said before him, we enforce the law. This president takes that very seriously. So, what you saw was as we enforced the law against those who chose to enter illegally, mind you, not go legally to a port of entry but enter illegally. They were prosecuted. And because of that, if they had children with them, so as not to put children in a custodial jail, they were separated and put in the good care of HHS. HANNITY: All right. NIELSEN: Yes, 60 Minutes, they need to go back and check their facts. They should have taken more time to understand how the immigration laws of this country work. (END VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: All right. Results now coming in out of Mississippi. And the Republican has a big lead with a little over 40 percent of the vote in. We'll get to that. Also, the media going after our first lady over Christmas decorations. They can't stop hating a lovely first lady. They wouldn't do this to Michelle Obama, would they? We'll get to that. Jesse, Jessica, whose world? We'll find out next, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. This is a Fox News alert. We are monitoring the results out of the great state of Mississippi. And there you have it. At this moment, Cindy Hyde-Smith, she is leading 55 to 45 percent. Forty- six percent of precincts reporting. We'll have more on that. Our own Peter Doocy is on the ground in a minute. But first, Christmas season can't even slow down the media's unhinged, 24/7, every second, minute, hour of every day, Trump hate machine. Now they are using the White House Christmas display as a line of attack against the first lady. Look at this. They are calling the decoration "trees of death," comparing them to the Handmaid's tale. And you know what, it's really pretty despicable. I've seen it, absolutely beautiful, stunning decorations that go on. And you know what, all these media people, and we'll get to our guests. By the way, co-host of The Five, Watters World and Fox News contributor, Jessica Tarlov. How did you do it again? JESSE WATTERS, FOX NEWS HOST: Just in, and then out. HANNITY: All right. In and out. WATTERS; There it is. (CROSSTALK) JESSICA TARLOV, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I'm going to set this out. HANNITY: We're going to find whose world it is. We can't even let the first lady, and the great irony is, all of your liberal friends, they are begging for tickets. I know who they are, to get into the parties at the White House. You know where I'm not doing? I'm not going to a White House Christmas party. TARLOV: I'm not either. HANNITY: I wasn't invited, were you? WATTERS: Yes, I was. I can't believe that Trump didn't invite you, Sean, after all of the nice things you've said. Terrible. I'm so grateful. HANNITY: You really want to run into all our fake news friends? WATTERS: I just want to see the beautiful Christmas decorations. I think they are gorgeous. TARLOV: It looks like they're shining. HANNITY: Why do they constantly pick on the first lady? I do know. Who is beyond lovely, sacrifices a lot, is out there doing causes that, you know, are trying to help kids and people in the country. Why? I didn't see this. Michelle Obama got criticized for saying for the first time in my adult life I'm proud of my country. TARLOV: Michelle Obama got criticized for a lot more, including wearing sleeveless shirts. There's an issue about her. HANNITY: I never talk about it. (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: I'm still upset about the shirt. TARLOV: Her beautiful biceps. See, there you have it right there. Listen, the Christmas decorations, whether you like them or not, it's not really the point. I saw people really focusing on those be best decorations, you know, she's a -- cyberbullying campaign. (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: So what? TARLOV: With a husband who cyber bullies. It's hypocritical. She said that she was one of the most bullied people out there. I mean, if Michelle Obama-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: Yes. Imagine, listen to this. Imagine if Hillary was elected-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: I'm so happy. WATTERS: -- Bill Clinton would have been in charge of the Christmas decorations. TARLOV: Yes. WATTERS: Imagine there have been mistletoe everywhere. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Jesse, that's below-- WATTERS: The media would love that too. TARLOV: That's beneath you. I will not do that. (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: You know what, this is what happened when Trump won out. HANNITY: That was funny. That was-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: I'm so glad you're back in studio for this. HANNITY: He is winning by a lot. TARLOV: Yes. HANNITY: He got you there. WATTERS: You know what this is? This is when Trump derangement syndrome meets the war on Christmas. You get decoration gate. You guys are scared of Christmas decorations. I didn't think you were that big of a snowflake. I'm going to buy one of those Trumpy bears that we see on the Kim (Ph). I'm going to give one to you. It will be like your little emotional support animal. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Is hat real? Because I thought that was it. Is that Trumpy bear thing real? HANNITY: I have no idea. TARLOV: You haven't seen this commercial? WATTERS: It's all too real. TARLOV: It's frightening. WATTERS: Yes. It paces your salary. TARLOV: It paces yours too, then. HANNITY: Great. WATTERS: Thank, God. TARLOV: I don't make enough to the end of this conversation. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I have no idea. TARLOV: I don't know. Listen, I don't think the trees are that big of a deal. I think-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. Let me move on. TARLOV: OK, cool. HANNITY: I just think we need to show the first lady, and Ivanka, leave the women and children out of it. Can we do that? Leave Baron-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Ivanka works for the government. HANNITY: OK. Baron doesn't need to see another severed head of his -- of his. I'm sick of it. TARLOV: I'm all for protecting Baron there, but, Ivanka-- HANNITY: I saw the Tom Arnolds-- TARLOV: -- works for them. Jared Kushner works for them. She is the first lady. She has taken on responsibility for this campaign. HANNITY: Cindy Hyde-Smith looks like she is going to win tonight so far. WATTERS: Yes. I mean, the Deep South is still Trump country. The glue wave didn't go that far down. You know. Listen, it's important she gets this seat. Then you don't have to worry about, you know, the Romney swing vote, the Susan Collins swing vote. You have a very solid-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They have a cushion. WATTERS: -- Republican cushion in the Senate and it looks good. HANNITY: By the way, he didn't lose 69 seats like Obama in the House and Senate or 60 like Clinton. WATTERS: Yes. HANNITY: He netted seats. Clinton-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: You are not actually going to argue that this was a job well done by the Republicans. HANNITY: Compare 69-60. (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: And you add votes in-- HANNITY: And Trump wins seats because he went out and campaigned. TARLOV: We just picked up 40 states. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Check mate Trump. TARLOV: We just pick up 40 states. HANNITY: I think 38 or 39. TARLOV: No. It hit 40 today because of the new California state. HANNITY: I didn't hear that call. TARLOV: Yes. Blue wave all over the place. The popular vote here. HANNITY: This is easy tonight. Sorry. In, out, his world. What do you think? WATTERS: Do you guys agree? TARLOV: These people are against me, my own boyfriend. HANNITY: Yes, they're all against you. WATTERS: Merry Christmas, Jessica. Merry Christmas. HANNITY: We'll update you on Mississippi's vital Senate race. We'll have the latest results. Peter Doocy on the ground, next. HANNITY: All right. Our own Peter Doocy standing by in Mississippi. I got 56 percent of the vote in and Hyde-Smith up by 11. It looks like it's going to be a Republican tonight in Mississippi. PETER DOOCY, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: And, Sean -- and Sean, we just got an update from the Mike Espy headquarters about five minutes from here. They have turned off the projector screens that did show some of the returns coming in for the last few hours. So, right now a different mood over there compared to here where there does seem to be little bit of excitement building. No surprises with the Hyde- Smith team. The results that you're seeing right now is exactly the way that they say they projected it based on turnout and base on what they thought the mood was here in Mississippi despite all the controversy and all the national attention on the race the last couple of days. Sean? HANNITY: All right. Peter Doocy, great reporting. We'll get the final tally and call coming up probably pretty soon. All right. But unfortunately, this is terrible. It's all the time we have left. I can't stay here anymore. But let not your heart be troubled. We're always fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. Laura Ingraham is from Washington, D.C. Load-Date: November 28, 2018 End of Document Roger Stone Versus Jerome Corsi on Advance Knowledge on WikiLeaks and Knowledge on the Russia Investigation by the Mueller Probe; Trump Needs a New Attorney General for the Russia Investigation, the Border Crisis and the Judiciary; President Trump's Possible Picks for New Attorney General Examined; Mississippi GOP Candidate Cindy Hyde-Smith Elected to U.S. Senate; Religious Organizations Help Resettle Refugees; Melania Trump's Christmas Decorations Draw Criticism Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 27, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8251 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Peter Doocy Guests: Roger Stone, Jon Sale, Mark Penn, Peter Schweizer Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, but unfortunately, this is terrible. It's all the time we have left. I can't stay here any more. But let not your heart be troubled. We are always fair and balanced. We're not the destroy Trump media. Laura Ingraham is from Washington D.C. Not the swamp or sewer. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, you know, when you think of Mike Espy, like are (inaudible) going to show up or Webb Hubbell? I mean, this is like the old home team, right, like Espy. These names are just kind of floating out there in the (inaudible). HANNITY: This is a -- listen, this is a big win. Think about this, Trump goes, he helped Marsha Blackburn. He helped DeSantis. He helped Scott. He helped defeat Claire McCaskill with Hawley. He helped defeat Joe Donnelly. He helped defeat Heidi Heitkamp. He couldn't go in all 435 congressional districts but he helped in the Senate. It's going to help him big time. INGRAHAM: Yes, I think Sean, you might have pointed this out, but, you know, Mia Love, you know, poor Mia Love. She didn't really -- wasn't on board with Trump on immigration and trade. HANNITY: I like Mia Love. I really do. I wish she would have held her seat. INGRAHAM: Yes, I do too. I don't think, you know, the president probably shouldn't have said the no love thing and she probably shouldn't have criticized him on the way out the door yesterday, but I think -- HANNITY: Well, maybe she'll be back. I think she's got -- she brings a lot to the Republican Party. I hope she comes back. That was a tough loss. I really wanted her to win. INGRAHAM: All right. Well, Hannity, great show tonight as always. HANNITY: Big night in Mississippi though. INGRAHAM: Yes. Mississippi is going to be big so, we wait for the final call, but thanks so much. Great show. HANNITY: All right. Have a great show. INGRAHAM: All right. I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington tonight. As you just heard Sean and I talking about, we're still awaiting the final results in the Mississippi senate race. At this moment, Cindy Hyde-Smith has a fairly comfortable lead over former Clinton agriculture secretary Mike Espy. A victory by Hyde-Smith would expand the GOP lead in the senate, 53 to 47. We're going to have a live report from the ground as soon as we get this final call so keep it right there. Also, between the Mueller investigation and the ongoing crisis at the border, my ANGLE, it's going to come in the B- block, is going to explain why the president must pick a new attorney general like yesterday to quote one of my favorite senators. Plus, the THE INGRAHAM ANGLE will take you behind the caravan headline for a shocking investigation into the tens of thousands of migrant teens currently being housed inside our country. And the astronomical costs associated with their care. You're paying for it my friends. And it's becoming a preversial (ph) side tradition. The criticism of Melania Trump's Christmas decorations. They did this last year and we were at the White House. We loved the decoration. This year, the critics are back. They have nothing better to do than to go after Melania Trump. But first, a war of words among two reported targets of the Mueller probe. Earlier today, "The Daily Caller" reported of an early copy of a book written by author Jerome Corsi. Now, in this book, Corsi claims that he testified to Mueller's grand jury that just one month before the 2016 election, Trump confidant Roger Stone, asked him to contact Julian Assange about releasing John Podesta's e-mail. Now, Corsi claims this was because Stone had advanced knowledge of the release of those infamous "Access Hollywood" tape, that knowledge that he knew about that and advance knowledge of the e-mails themselves. Corsi was asked about this earlier tonight on our own Tucker Carlson. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEROME CORSI, RIGHT-WING AUTHOR: This is a political witch hunt because I did not have a contact with Assange but yet they have figured out that Assange had Podesta's e-mail. So I figured out and told Roger Stone and told many people in August. It just happens I was right. I did figure it out and I connect the dots and this time I happen to be right. You just won't believe that I figured it out. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Roger Stone is disputing some of Corsi's other claims and he has a lot to stay. He joins us now in an exclusive interview to tell us what is going on here. Roger, it's good to see you tonight. I know you watched what Mr. Corsi said on Tucker Carlson's show. A lot of folks watching, you know, they think of the Mueller probe and like nefarious Russian plots and they hear, you know, Assange's name and Ecuadorian embassy. They don't know who Jerome Corsi is and they kind of know who you are, but simplify this for us is so our listeners know what they need know to understand the current state of affairs in this investigation as it pertains to you. ROGER STONE, FORMER ADVISOR TO DONALD TRUMP: Well, first of all, Laura, thank you for having me because my own show at Infowars is so heavily censored to deny me a forum top have a chance to defend myself. I'm very grateful for the chance to be here. This is very simple. It shows what happens when you hotbox a 72-year- old man for 40 hours as the Mueller interrogators did. Quite clearly, I made it very clear that on August 21st, I posted a tweet that said, the Podesta's time in the barrel will come. I meant that public scrutiny of the Podesta's Russian business interest as I had been briefed about by Jerry Corsi, would be in the media. Now jerry Corsi has been browbeat into claiming that that was some kind of a cover story and because I was taking t for that tweet. But that's not even logical, Laura, because my tweet wasn't controversial until six weeks later when Julian Assange published John Podesta's e-mails. So, I had no advance notice that his e-mails would be stolen aor that they would be published. And then the secondary claim that I knew about the Billy Bush NBC tape in advance and that I asked Jerry Corsi to contact Julian Assange to ask Assange to move up or move back his data dump to distract the attention from that, that's a fairytale. That's just (inaudible). I learned about it at 4:00 in the afternoon like every other American. I was actually on the street in Manhattan. Look, I just think it's sad that he's been pressured this way to bear false witness against me. INGRAHAM: Roger, there's no text evidence or e-mail evidence regarding the Billy Bush claim and nothing definitive about the other claim about advance knowledge. There's just one e-mail from you to Corsi from July 25th of 2016. We'll just put it up on the screen. Then this is from the draft court papers, "Get to (Assange) at the Ecuadorian embassy in London and get the pending WikiLeaks e-mails." That's what you've referenced several times. And just once again, why does that look bad? STONE: Well, this is an important back story because hours before that, I was forwarded an e-mail by James Rosen of Fox that had been sent to me by Charles Ortel, one of the very best researchers and investigators in the country. And Rosen had gotten a tip that the disclosures were going to be about the Clinton Foundation. Like every politico, like every political reporter in America, I was curious about what Assange had. The bottom line of this, Laura, is very clear. Nothing we've learned in the last 72 hours shows that there was any collusion between the Russian state and Donald Trump's campaign. Two million -- pardon me -- $20 million and two years in, there's still no evidence of any such Russian collusion. This is a witch hunt. INGRAHAM: Well, not according to -- Roger, not according to David Cicilline who -- and this is from today on CNN - - who made a contrary claim. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. DAVID CICILLINE (D), RHODE ISLAND: Well, I think, again, this is more evidence of an ongoing conspiracy or collusion between high-ranking Trump campaign officials and WikiLeaks and Julian Assange and the stolen e- mails. You can see that he's not only directing Jerome Corsi to get information about or get the copies of the e- mails or get information about them. He reports back to Roger Stone on August 2nd. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Your response to him, some of it you've covered specifically. STONE: When did political gossip become criminalized? Everybody in the America wanted to know after Assange teased these e-mails on CNN in June, and then on Fox in August, what exactly it was that he had. But there is no flow of information. I received no e-mails and passed no e-mails on to Donald Trump or the Trump campaign. That's just a fairytale. But let's face it. The entire Russian collusion delusion is meant to distract us from the fact that the Obama administration, the Obama NSA, the Obama FBI, were using illegal, unconstitutional FISA warrants to spy on Donald Trump's campaign, and were using the FBI to infiltrate Donald Trump's campaign. That, plus Uranium One, there's a great need to distract from all of those things so, we point to Donald Trump and the phony Russian collusion, which just doesn't exist. INGRAHAM: Have you been offered a deal by the special counsel? STONE: Most certainly not. And there's no circumstance under whatsoever that I would bear false witness against the president. I am being persecuted because I supported Donald Trump for president and because I helped defeat Hillary Clinton and for no other reason. INGRAHAM: Roger Stone, thank you so much for joining us tonight. We really appreciate it. And joining us now with a reaction, Attorney Jon Sale who was an assistant special prosecutor during Watergate, and Democratic pollster Mark Penn, the architect of Bill Clinton's re-election who knows a lot about special counsel in investigations. Jon, let me start first with you. Now, what do you make of Mueller's investigation? It seemed to be landing on these mostly bit players who at best were on the periphery of the Trump campaign. JON SALE, FORMER ASSISTANT WATERGATE PROSECUTOR: Well you have to look at their end game. It goes from WikiLeaks to Corsi to Stone, but that does not establish what they're after. So, what they are trying to do is flip people. And I think the Manafort story is really a tragedy. I mean, this man has been in solitary confinement because he so-called lied. He's going to serve life in prison and people saying, why is he lying? Who is he protecting? What is he afraid of? I mean, is anybody saying he's just not going to say what they want. He's just not giving up the president. Doesn't the president deserve the same presumption of innocence that everybody else has? I just -- sometimes I think that I'm living on another planet. But when you hear Mr. Corsi and Mr. Stone going on television and saying they're going to be indicted and actually explaining their defense, I would think as their lawyers are tearing their hair out. INGRAHAM: Yes, it sounds -- it sounds, I mean, they both in their own, you know, description, and again, I'm speaking as a defense attorney. I'm very suspicious of most prosecutors. No offense to prosecutors out there who are doing a good job. But I know the racket they play. They have an enormous amount of power and someone is looking at life in prison versus, OK, we just need you to say, you know, you got to be truthful. You know what being truthful means. You want to see your wife for the next five years, don't you? You want to see the birth of your first grandchild. Most people just crack, and I think that's what happened to the former national security advisor. I don't think he lied. And Mark Penn, I got to go to you on this. As a political matter, here we are again. It seems like this is deja vu all over again with the special counsels. MARK PENN, DEMOCRATIC POLLSTER: Well, it does. It seem likes the special counsel don't want to end an investigation and not come back with some scalps and really what you really see here is it seems like this investigation is over. They looked at the campaign. They looked at every e- mail. They got it from the GSA. They interviewed 40 witnesses. This thing was done. Stone's e-mails here with Jerome Corsi happened after the July 22nd DNC dump in which WikiLeaks announced they had more e-mails to do. So, all they were doing was speculating back and forth between can you get it, what's going on, which you would -- frankly, I would have been surprised if Roger Stone hadn't in a bunch of e-mails to people like that. INGRAHAM: But everybody was talking about do you know, have you heard anything, what do you got, any one talked to Assange? PENN: And this is not criminal. And it certainly shouldn't be the contents of an investigation that's clearly just about over. INGRAHAM: And we had Corsi tonight, Jon, respond to this -- his claim that he had met Assange. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TUCKER CALRSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Have you ever had contact with Julian Assange? CORSI: No, I never met Julian Assange. I have never spoken with him. I never e-mailed him. I've had no contact with Julian Assange whatsoever. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I mean, why would he lie about that? I mean, there would be some type of record of some type of meeting and it seems like Assange and WikiLeaks is laying out a lot of money saying these meeting that they claim occurred didn't occur, million dollar bet on that. SALES: I mean, a special counsel will pass on a lie they say if he now changes his story and they will not oppose probation for him. So, I've been through it so many times where the prosecutor, if you say certain things it's the key to the jailhouse. I remember as a young lawyer in Watergate, when Archibald Cox said to a few of us, remember, we're not here to get the president. We're here to do a thorough investigation. That's what I would hope the American people deserve for the Mueller investigation. INGRAHAM: But I mean, how many people believe that Andrew Weizmann, who a staunch Hillary Clinton supporter and others who are in this special counsel's office, Mark Penn, are, you know, they are the Eliot Ness' out there. There's getting the information -- that's all they want is the information. They are going to put it out there. It seems highly unlikely and that's why people like Derschowitz are out there. Let's play what Alan Derschowitz said and we'll let you react. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALAN DERSHOWITZ, HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR EMERITUS: He's going to produce what he believes is going to be a devastating attack. He's going to put together everything. He's going to use information from Manafort and others without necessarily disclosing that they are liars. (END VIDEO CLIP) PENN: Well, look, I think that Andrew Weizmann has a questionable reputation for having taken witnesses and taken the legal process too far, but the most important thing I found was in the exit polls. Donald Trump only had a 44 percent job approval, but 54 percent believe that the Mueller investigation is political in nature. This investigation has been discredited and they don't want to end it in a fair way. I think really Derschowitz is right. They are going to issue a report and they are going to make it as damming as possible just like Ken Starr did. INGRAHAM: John, earlier tonight when Corsi was interviewed by Tucker, he was asked about this, you know, (inaudible) have you knowingly ever subverted the interest of our country to help another country like Russia. Did you ever have contact with Russian intelligence and he said absolutely not. I'm a loyal American. I have no contacts with Russian intelligence. No business interest in Russia. Have nothing to do with Russia. I've never been to Russia. That's kind of the key per sound bite of that interview if you ask me, but I guess he had a white Russian once though at a bar so that's enough. SALES: Well he wasn't being vague about that and I think Roger Stone said, when you asked him about if he was all for the deal, I think he said I would not bear false witness. I mean, doesn't that tell it all? But I think this investigation needs supervision. And I think it needs supervision by a permanent attorney general, not to cut it off, not to --cut off its oxygen, but to say, let's bring this to a reasonable conclusion. INGRAHAM: Jon, you gave the interview to my next -- my introduction basically to my next segment about why the president needs to select an attorney general now, so thank you for that. Great segment guys. Thanks so much. SALES: My pleasure. PENN: Thanks for having me. INGRAHAM: And WikiLeaks has once again found themselves at the center of this latest battle. Not just with Stone and Corsi but with Paul Manafort as well. Now, after it was suggested by "The Guardian" newspaper, that Manafort met three times with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, both Manafort and Assange have threatened legal action against U.K. paper for libel. Now joining us now is someone who knows a lot about how WikiLeaks operates, Peter Schweizer. He is the president of The Government Accountability Institute. Peter, WikiLeaks seems to be intersecting with all the Mueller targets here. So what is actually going on here? Again, I think most people trying to unpack this. It's very confusing. It seems very remote from this idea of Russian meddling in the elections and colluding with the Trump person, but (inaudible). PETER SCHWEIZER, PRESIDENT, THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY INSTITUTE: Yes, I know. I think you are exactly right. I mean, look, when the FBI issued its initial finding on the 2016 election, they talked about the fact that the Russians wanted to sow dissension in the United States. That was the basic theme. But, you know, the Clinton campaign and the Democrats did not want to accept the 2016 election results and they quickly pushed this narrative that really what the Russians were doing was helping Donald Trump win and they now are hoping that Mueller is going to come up with evidence of that fact and they simply haven't. In fact, if you look at what happened in 2016, you look at all the things that play, the Steele dossier, you find Russian fingerprints everywhere and not designed to help Donald Trump, but designed to cause dissention. WikiLeaks has, you know, long time been a crossroads for information. It provides information to reporters. It gets used by news sources. But the notion that somehow it is part of some master plan that they collaborated with the Trump campaign and the Russians is just laughable and I think the pushback that you're getting on these claims by the guardian are evidence that there's a lot of falseness information out there about precisely what went on. INGRAHAM: Well, at some point, an attorney general -- if we had an attorney general who wasn't acting, didn't have any kind of, you know, cloud hanging over his head. At what point can the special counsel's office be sanctioned? I mean, this is the problem with the special counsel's independent counsels. They're kind of running wild with the veneer of supervision. I know Rosenstein and Trump can seem like they're getting along better and that's great. But if the whole game here is to turn the screws like a 72- year-old man to say, OK, you're going to gasp for your last breath in prison unless you fess up to like spooning with Julian Assange. The whole thing is a farce. And at some point, the special counsel's office, if this keeps going the way it's going, I don't understand why there wouldn't be sanctions filed against some of these lawyers making these outrageous moves on our judicial system, honestly. That's where I am on this right now, unless something else happens, that's where I am tonight. SCHWEIZER: Well, I think you're right, Laura. Look, the narrative and the goalpost keeps shifting. I mean, the original narrative was that Trump, you know, the meeting at Trump Tower and the Russians there working together. Then it is Roger Stone who is working with Julian Assange. What these e-mails show of course is Roger Stone didn't have contact with Julian Assange. He's asking Jerome Corsi to reach out to Julian Assange. So now the focus is on, you know, this author, Jerome Corsi who is 7-years- old and he's not involved in the Trump campaign. He was not a central player in this drama and they have decided they're going to put the squeeze on him. INGRAHAM: But he has a book out. Yes, but he has a book out. By the way, this is the new story today, Peter, in the "New York Times." I got to put up this headline real quick to get you to react to it. This is a new story, that Manafort's attorneys have been briefing Trump's attorneys on what he told Mueller. Well, for what? Welcome to the world of information sharing among lawyers. Big deal. SCHWEIZER: Well, yes. As if lawyers never talk. That's exactly right. I mean, defense clients do this all the time in criminal cases. They do it in investigations. This is what's done. I mean, this is where it's come. And to the larger point that I was making, Laura, to your point about the attorney general, these issues, I mean you look at the Steel dossier. Christopher Steel, the person that wrote it, you look at the gentlemen at the State Department, Winer, who is pushing it and legitimizing it. You look at a guy like Adam Waldron (ph) who was also pushing it. All o f them are tied to a Russian oligarch named Oleg Deripaska. Well, it would be very interesting to find out what role if any that this Russian official might have played in pushing the Steele dossier. I don't think the Mueller investigation is going to look at. If we had an attorney general, they could certainly make sure that that was subject of a serious investigation. And as long as you don't have someone making a priority it's not going to happen. INGRAHAM: All right, interesting information all around. Great, great conversations. Up next, my ANGLE on the next A.G. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Justice delayed, justice denied. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: By putting attorney general that never took control of the Justice Department -- Jeff Sessions -- never took control of the Justice Department and it's sort of an incredible thing. I'm disappointed in the attorney general for many reasons and you understand that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well it happens in relationships. The president and Jeff Sessions started off strong. They were tight. But then they basically ended up hating each other. Well, it's been three weeks since Trump canned Sessions and we haven't heard much about his -- filling this critical position of the attorney general since this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Well, I have some very, very good people, but I think there's no rush. You know, it has to go through a Senate process which takes a long time, but we'll pick somebody that's great. We're going to pick somebody that's very good. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, the fact that we still have no A.G. nominee has Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Chuck Grassley up in arms. He said, "I think it would be wise for the president to get somebody appointed like yesterday. How long does it take for to you make up your mind for who you want to be the attorney general?" Grassley makes a good point here. This is no time for the administration or the United States to be without an attorney general. We need a permanent, top law enforcement officer in place particularly at a time when our border is under assault. Now, for its own part, Democrats and their media sponsors have had a field day since the president selection of former Sessions chief of staff Matthew Whitaker. And he was named of course as acting A.G. Lawsuits have been filed by senate Democrats Blumenthal and Hirono to remove Whitaker claiming the pick is unconstitutional since Whitaker hasn't been confirmed by the Senate. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: He very simply cannot install a person like Matt Whitaker who is his lackey and lap dog when the office really requires qualification. And Matt Whitaker lacks the key qualification which is approval by the Senate. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The state of Maryland has also filed an absurd lawsuit to block Whitaker for his involvement in an existing Obamacare lawsuit that they say would protect people with pre-existing health conditions. My friends, this is all an unnecessary distraction. Trump's DOJ should be devoting its manpower and resources to defending his policies against the relentless attacks by groups such as like the ACLU. There is no point in fighting unnecessary battles launched by vicious opponents nor by delaying the nomination of a new A.G. does the president need the appearance of seeming to be worried about the pending Mueller report. Now, notwithstanding the bad blood between the president and Jeff Sessions after his recusal in that Russia probe, Sessions was tough and he was in sync with Trump on border enforcement. And now more than ever, we need a strong, smart, well-respected A.G. who is liked by the president to immediately do the following. Number one, lead the fight against the nationwide injunctions enacted by activist district court judges and issues from illegal immigration to healthcare -- these injunctions issued by these activists on the bench are thwarting the rule of law, the will of the American people and the president. Number two, the new A.G. needs to launch an investigation of open borders groups such Pueblo Sin Fronteras that have organized and choreographed this migrant crisis at the border. These organizations are criminal conspirators. They are masquerading though as non-profits helping the migrants. Right now, there are laws on the books that a smart leader at DOJ could utilize to stop this caravan madness. What are these laws? One, there is Section 274 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, any person who knowingly brings or just attempts to bring an alien into the United States illegally, has committed a crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison. Moreover, anyone who encourages or induces an alien to come, to enter or reside in the United States legally can be jailed up to five years. And someone who aids or abets people committing either of the above acts can also be jailed for five years. And by the way, it gets better, 18 USC section 1324 even invokes the possibility of the death penalty for those who's actions result in the death of any person while violating the governing immigration laws. Jeff Sessions dropped the ball on this issue. A new A.G. must not. Number three, before Pelosi takes the gavel and a deluge of Democrat-led Congressional investigations hit the Trump White House, a whip-smart, strong experienced A.G. is needed to coordinate legal strategy and defend the president's policies and decisions. That means coordinate with the White House. This requires that he or she be confident and competent enough to appear on fair media outlets to advance the White House's position. We need to see the attorney general. Fourth, let's face it. We need a new A.G. to help restore public trust and the department, of course the Department of Justice and the FBI. After the reputational harm that Comey, McCabe, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok and a gaggle of others have caused, it's time for the president to turn the page and nominate someone with experience and credibility to head the DOJ. Weeks ago, I suggested former New Jersey governor Chris Christie as a possible A.G. pick. He would be fantastics. So would our next guest. And that's THE ANGLE. But first, breaking just moment ago, GOP U.S. Senate -- GOP for the U.S. Senate, Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith wins that runoff in Mississippi, keeping the seat in Republican hands and giving the GOP Senate a 53-47 advantage. We're all going to have a live report right before Hyde-Smith's remarks later in the hour after little marble removal from my mouth. But here now to react to my ANGLE is Andrew McCarthy, a former chief assistant and U.S. attorney and FOX News contributor. All right, Andy, the FOX News alert, very important of course, but it got in the way that great intro to you. So I have two picks, Christie and you. ANDREW MCCARTHY, FORMER CHIEF ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY: I thought the alert was that you nominated me. That's what I thought was the news break. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: I was like, wait a second, the alert coming right out of that. But this is how we roll. It's live news. Andy, what do you make of -- you know what I think about you. You would be phenomenal. I don't know whether you'd do it or not, but you would be phenomenal. But setting you aside for a moment, what about this need to have an attorney general in place given all of these critical issues that I outlined facing this administration? MCCARTHY: Laura, when you were giving that synopsis, which I think was terrific and really hit exactly what we need to have right now, which is very strong hand at the Justice Department, and it's been lacking for a long time. I'm a Jeff Sessions fan, but if you don't have the president's confidence, then you can't be effective in that position. So we've really had a void at the Justice Department for a while. And I was just getting that 2007 feeling, and thinking about what uproar we were in at that time between the U.S. attorney's crisis and the things that were going on in Iraq and the enemy combatants and how they were being handled, how they were being interrogated. And it seemed like we were in just complete uproar at the Justice Department. And then all of a sudden Bush brought in Judge Mukasey to be the attorney general. INGRAHAM: That was fabulous. MCCARTHY: And suddenly you had an eminent figure who was strong, who had the respect of the courts, who had the respect of both sides of the aisle, even people who disagreed with him politically could not argue with the fact that Judge Mukasey was a person as far as the law is concerned of great rectitude and dedication to the enforcement of the law. And it was like everything changed overnight. For 18 months, there was lot of other problems in the Bush administration, but the Justice Department was not one of them. And I think we really need that now. INGRAHAM: Alberto Gonzalez, God bless him, I'm sorry, was not a strong attorney general. We go Mukasey in there and I think they turned the page. Specifically on Whitaker, again, I've met him. I like him a lot. I think he's a dedicated person and I think he is a smart guy. But that's an unnecessary distraction. The president doesn't need another thing to deal with, except the main things, which are the problem at the border, these injunctions that are wrecking his policies and thwarting the rule of law. And imagine having a strong attorney general on television a couple times a week saying, you know why these injunctions are bad? Because one unelected person shouldn't change U.S. policy overnight. Just something as simple as that, Andy, and we don't have that now. MCCARTHY: No. And it makes a difference, Laura. Even if you're making a point that's unimpeachable, it makes a difference what the gravitas of the person making the point is. And that goes not only for somebody who can be a presence in the media, which is obviously important nowadays, but somebody who is going to look eye-to-eye at the U.S. courts, because that's a lot of where this these take place. What you talked about in terms of stepped up border enforcement and the thing we could do now if we exploited the American laws that we have on the books now, that's a position that can be forged by somebody that the courts know is a force to be reckoned with. It's going to be tough for somebody who's very presence there in the job right now is controversial. And like you, this is not a wrap on Matt Whitaker. I don't know him. But a lot of people who I do know and respect think he's a terrific guy, but he comes in with a problem in terms of not being somebody who is not only confirmed, but he doesn't have that experience and background. And I think he needs what we said the last time. He needs a wartime consiglieri. INGRAHAM: Everything goes back to "The Godfather," Andy, you know that. All of life lessons. "Godfather" one and two. You don't have to really go further. Adam Schiff said that they're going to bring Whitaker before Congress and they're going to put him through the paces. The first thing they do when they get the gavel back is they're going to have Whitaker up there going, why do you think you're a constitutional appointment? You have no authority. And it's going to be another sideshow. Again, the president has so much on his plate, he has to start ticking off these agenda items at the Justice Department. Can't do it when you don't have attorney general. Do you think he'll pick someone before the end of the year? MCCARTHY: I sure hope so, but I don't know. I don't know why he hasn't picked somebody now. But as you point out, as far as the testimony is concerned, that's the job. And if you have somebody who can be a presence in the room, that's not somebody they want to bring down there every couple of weeks or couple of months. The reason they're trying it get their mitts on Whitaker is because they think the department is on its heels. And we need to get it off its heels. INGRAHAM: Andy, would you do it if you were asked? If the president said I need you, would you do it? MCCARTHY: Laura, come on. I'll tell you what I tell everyone else. On those indictments, I don't need to be on the signature line. I just need to stay out of the caption. INGRAHAM: All right, Andy, thanks so much. And we want to go live now to Peter Doocy in Mississippi where this big Senate result just came down. Peter, what can you tell us? This is a big night for the Republican Party, a big night for President Trump who went all in over the weekend. PETER DOOCY, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: And Laura, we understand now for the first time, I just got this few seconds ago. Mike Espy has conceded. He was scheduled to call Cindy Hyde-Smith about 10 minutes from now, but with the race being announced and called sooner than his campaign was expecting, over at the Espy headquarters about five minutes away from here, they turned off the projector screens that had been showing returns, and he went ahead and called Cindy Hyde-Smith. We also now understand that she and her family are going to come down any minute here after what her campaign says was not a very suspenseful night. It was unclear exactly what kind of numbers they might have had when she became the first person, the first candidate to ever get President Trump to come and campaign twice in one day for her, but her campaign was sitting back there looking at projections that they had based on trends that they were seeing and turnout that they thought. Special elections are a lot harder to predict the turnout than a general election. But they say that things unfolded almost exactly like they thought. And again, an early night here in Mississippi where Mike Espy, the Democrat, he was trying to become the first African-American elected since Reconstruction has lost to Cindy Hyde-Smith who will now become the first woman ever elected senator out of Mississippi. Laura? INGRAHAM: Peter, that's a first. And what they also did, and they worked overtime to do this over the last week, week-and-a-half, they were trying to make this out to be another disaster, Confederate flag, she's basically a segregationist up against someone who would be the first African-American senator from Mississippi. And I think in the end, a lot of these charges are falling on deaf ears because people think it's just too much. If everything is a racism, then nothing is racism after a while. And I think it obviously didn't work. And it wasn't a horserace contrary to what all these media people were drumming up as a horserace. It never was a horse race. DOOCY: And Laura, I had somebody associated with the Espy campaign tell me a little while ago that they were not -- and I'm just going to turn around with this music to make sure that she's not coming out. There's too many signs. I can't see. But somebody with the Espy campaign said they thought that this was going to be just like the Alabama special election. It's a strange time on the calendar, and there's all this controversy, and a Democrat can sneak to a victory. But what wound up being different is when Roy Moore was the candidate in Alabama, the president never even did a rally for him. He just got as close as Pensacola, Florida. And the rest of the bigwig RNC folks in D.C. kept him completely at arms lengths. The GOP sent the full cavalry here to Mississippi. Again, two Trump rallies in the day, Ronna McDaniel was there with him, the vice president was with him, the other senator Roger Wicker was here, Lindsey Graham was here. So they had a full show of force to come and help Cindy Hyde-Smith. And she's about to accept the rest of Thad Cochran's term here in Jackson right across from the Thad Cochran courthouse. INGRAHAM: It's a funny thing, Peter, when they all unite together and fight for something, they oftentimes win. Peter, thank you so much. And we're going to take you to the Hyde-Smith speech if happens within the hour, which I imagine it will. But first, the caravan is just one of many issues facing our country at our southern border, but it is this next story that might be the most shocking. Check this out, right now, 2,324 mostly Central American teens are being held at just one facility in Tornillo, Texas. More than 1,300 of those teens have arrived just since the end of October alone. So what's the cost to you, the American taxpayer? Nothing, right? Well, it's $1,200 per child per day. And the plans to close this facility, of course, are being scuttled. A contract obtained by the Associated Press shows that this facility could remain in operation into 2020. In the end, this one facility could cost U.S. taxpayers more than, I kid you not, $430 million. For a frame of reference, there are at least 100 of these facilities in 15 states. We wanted to look into who profits from these open borders nightmares that we're seeing unfolding, and we took a look at the latest HHS resettlement disbursements, and we found that these groups got the most money, ready, to resettle the refugees and the migrants. The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, they got over $80 million in total government contracts and grants. For some reason the most recent numbers we have are only 2015. That number has got to be higher today. Something called the Church World Service got over $68 million in both U.S. and state grants and contracts to deal with this influx of all these migrants. The Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services got over $45 million from the government in 2017. It is no wonder, then, that Pueblo Cinfronteres, the big backer that we talked about in THE ANGLE behind these migrant caravans, they helped organize the caravans, referred to the mass of migrants in a press release today as, quote, "The Exodus." It's an obvious reference to the Bible, of course. They used that same term, "The Exodus," 17 times. Joining us now to debate whether this caring for, taking them in, $430 million later if these numbers hold, why it's all required of us as Christians and people of faith to spend this money and take it all in, Pastor Aubrey Shines of the Glory to Glory Ministries, and Jonathan Merritt, the author of "Learning to Speak to God from Scratch" and contributing editor at "The Week." Jonathan, let's start with you. Do you see how some people might consider this sort of activism a misuse of religion? My question is, can't religious people disagree on how to welcome a stranger and how to help others in need versus essentially throwing open our borders and releasing people once they cross the border illegally? JONATHAN MERRITT, AUTHOR AND FAITH HEALER: Yes, absolutely. We can disagree on how to do it. I think that what you're reading in this press release is recognition that the Christian story is really a migrant's tale. And this is not the first ministry to use that kind of language. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops have done this. The World Relief with works with the National Association of Evangelicals have done this. The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the southern Baptist Convention with 15 million evangelical members across the nation have also drawn on this language. So this use of this language is not a controversial thing if you really look at the groups that are using it. And it's not a left-right thing. You're finding that a lot of Christian groups on the political right have used this language as well. INGRAHAM: I understand what you're saying. However, if you take money off the table for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, they get about $100 million. All in it's about $100 million a year. Lutherans, about $50 million, other groups tens of millions of dollars. You take that federal money off the table, and I'd love to see all of the great work of all the organizations. MERRITT: It's slightly offensive if you've ever spent time with social workers in America. These are not people driving Cadillacs and making it rain with money. INGRAHAM: I don't care what they are driving. No, no. I don't care what they're driving. MERRITT: The people who are resettling refugees, if you actually go out and spend some time with the Catholic charities for example, these people are not in it for the money. And even insinuating that is quite offensive to religious -- INGRAHAM: I will say what's offensive to me is someone cherry picking verses out the Bible like Matthew 25, the admonition to feed the hungry -- MERRITT: You're not cherry picking -- INGRAHAM: Hold on, Jonathan. MERRITT: No, but you're not cherry picking out of the Bible, because now you're in my arena. I'm the guy here between the two of us who went to the seminary. You're not cherry picking it out of the Bible. INGRAHAM: Cherry picking -- MERRITT: Almost every Biblical character in the Bible was an immigrant at one time or another. INGRAHAM: Is it in the Bible not to let the other guest speak? I don't think so. So let's go to Matthew 25. Does the admonition to care for others apply to individuals or to governments, Aubrey? BISHOP AUBREY SHINES, CHRISTIAN PASTOR: Listen, first of all, thanks, Laura, for having me. Always great being with you. And Jonathan seems to choose whatever he wants to choose. He certainly doesn't represent an orthodox view of anything that's Biblical, whether it is on this issue or same sex marriage issues. He just doesn't. The Bible is constructed of a group of laws. And if you happen to believe in Christianity, and again, I know that, Laura, you have lot of viewers that don't. But if you were to choose to be a Christ follower, Christ says, and I quote, I am the door. Do not come to the father any other way other than through me, the door. And if you don't come that way, you won't be welcome. So Jonathan's views are not keeping anything that's orthodox, nor has his views been on any subject matter as it relates to anything especially that this president is doing right now. He's out of order and he's been out of order. And this is why he grandstands every time he has an opportunity to speak. INGRAHAM: One of the things that I think everyone has to kind of come to terms with, is that if there are borders, and if there are things called countries, then we must respect other country's laws. That is also in the Bible, render onto Caesar what is Caesar's. Jesus and Mary traveled freely within the Roman Empire because they lived in Roman occupied land. The idea that we can have an open, borderless society, and we'll all be better people. I guess we can do that. SHINES: Laura, we cannot open our borders -- MERRITT: We're not talking about anybody breaking law. SHINES: -- no more than we can open our doors. We lock our doors at night for a reason, Jonathan. Stop grandstanding. INGRAHAM: Hold on. Jonathan? MERRITT: We're not talking about anybody breaking laws. These people are seeking asylum. SHINES: They are breaking the laws. If they come here -- MERRITT: It's not illegal -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: I have a question. Guys, one at a time. Both of you, the same question. Jonathan, if someone walked through your front door uninvited and set up shop, maybe had couple of other people with them, and maybe they broke down a fence to get to your house or maybe they broke in through the front door, maybe they came through a window, and they said, you know, something, I feel oppressed and you need to help me. You call the police or do you say, the Bible compels me to help you because you say you have a claim. You see when you take it out of this current situation and you put it in an individual context. MERRITT: No. First of all, we're not talking about somebody breaking into houses. We're talking about people seeking asylum, right. That's the difference. Of course when you frame things that way, a disingenuous way, a way that doesn't actually align with the situation, it sounds like that. INGRAHAM: Really, because last time I checked -- MERRITT: There were people who were fleeing violence. If you said that there was a mother with her children who was fleeing violence and came to my doorstep, yes, I think I would help that person. And I think Jesus would want me too. INGRAHAM: Really? If they kicked in your front door, Jonathan, you'd be calling 911 in about five milliseconds, OK. Someone kicked down your front door and they claimed that they needed help. You'd say, who are you? What are you doing here? Why are you here. And Aubrey, I probably have the answer to the question. You would call 911 because it's a violation of your border. We're out of time. SHINES: It is a violation. INGRAHAM: I'm grandstanding now. But that's what I can do, and it's my show. Guys, we'll have you back. I love having both of you on. We disagree on some stuff, but it's good. Another holiday season, another disgusting attack on the first lady. We have that coming up. INGRAHAM: The left is now freaking out over, I kid you not, the White House Christmas decorations. Yes, I'm serious. While much of the White House was decorated in just a typical Christmas fashion, Melania Trump added a hallway of red trees, triggering lefties everywhere. "Slate" even called them the red Christmas trees of death. Joining me now, Monica Crowley, "Washington Times" opinion editor, Harmeet Dhillon, and Cathy Areu, publisher of "Catalina" magazine. Sorry, ladies, breaking news. We have to be quick tonight. Cathy, now what's wrong with red trees? Would they have been happier if they were blue trees for the whole electoral map. CATHY AREU, PUBLISHER, "CATALINA" MAGAZINE: Actually no, Michelle Obama tried the blue theme, the red, white and blue theme for Christmas. And she was criticized for that whole thing her last Christmas in the White House. So no blue. But yes, she thought outside the box, and unfortunately, Melania Trump just did not score points with these trees. They're calling it the shining. They're really putting her down for it. And Pat Sajak was commenting that if she was married to someone else maybe she wouldn't be getting so much criticism for being so outside the box. INGRAHAM: You think? Monica, I've heard a lot of really goofy criticisms of Melania Trump. This has to be the dumbest thing I ever heard. I don't really care what color the trees are. I kind of like traditional whites. I like the big old, the ones that basically cause a fire bulb, those big ones, the colored ones from the 70s. Those are my favorites. That would be funny, a retro Christmas with real candles on the trees. They're going crazy here. MONICA CROWLEY, COLUMNIST, "THE WASHINGTON TIMES": We are now into year two of these absurd attacks on the first lady and the White House Christmas decorations, which, by the way, are beautiful, just as our first lady is. She is spectacular. She has impeccable taste. And the White House looks gorgeous. It doesn't matter what she would do. She could what they actually think are the perfect decorations and they would still rip her apart simply by virtue of who she is married to and the president's agenda. INGRAHAM: Harmeet, I think that even hanging Planned Parenthood ornaments on the tree, they would criticize that. This is now the lowest of the low, the most pathetic. And I think most Americans hear this and they go la-la- la. They don't even care. HARMEET DHILLON, ATTORNEY: Absolutely, Laura. My people don't even do the Christmas trees, but we went to the White House Christmas party last year. It was gorgeous with the white trees there in the same place, and the red trees are beautiful as well. But whatever color tree she had there or decorations, the left would be attacking her and being malicious and nasty. So very proud of our first lady. She has impeccable taste, and I look forward to seeing those trees this year as well. INGRAHAM: I think it's diversity of colors -- white, red. Maybe Cathy will be happy, we will do blue. And maybe we'll get the old fashioned retro bulbs for next year and really drive them crazy. Guys, sorry about the short segment. And Cindy Hyde-Smith gave the GOP another Senate victory tonight. Final thoughts, next. INGRAHAM: OK, with a now 53-47 advantage in the Senate for Republicans, all I want for Christmas is more judges make it happen and a new A.G. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the FOX NEWS @ NIGHT team, take it from here. Load-Date: November 28, 2018 End of Document Illegal Immigration Crisis on Southern Border; President Trump Holds Rally in Mississippi; Latest Developments on the Mueller Probe; President Trump Held a Rally in Biloxi, Mississippi to Support Republican Candidate Cindy Hyde-Smith; The President Laid Out that the Democrats Would Like to Derail His Agenda, and Therefore, It Is Important that a Republican Leader must Sit in that State Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 26, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7138 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter Guests: John Solomon, David Bossie, Corey Lewandowski Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: You, too, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Busy night. Welcome to HANNITY. Tonight, America's sovereignty is facing a monumental challenge. Over the weekend you witnessed hundreds of so-called asylum-seekers rushing the fencing along our southern border. They attempted to make an illegal crossing by force, hurling rocks, bottles and other projectiles at our U.S. border patrol agents and they were rebuffed with non-lethal tear gas. This is the crisis, yes, we have been warning you about and it's about to get much worse. Now, many on the left -- they are demonizing border patrol agents. Why? For protecting themselves and our country against what is blatant lawlessness. Some are accusing them of launching chemical weapon attacks and others literally calling them terrorists. Others comparing this to the Holocaust. We have all the madness, we'll call at the left's ignorance, pathetic political posturing on what is a very serious issue. We will also show you what's really going on at the southern border. DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, she will join us exclusively tonight. Plus, huge news tonight, Jerome Corsi and Paul Manafort refuse to go along with the narrative, lies of Robert Mueller. This is huge. We will explain why. And also tonight, we will preview tomorrow's special election. This is important in Mississippi. The outcome there will determine the future of the U.S. Senate. Also, we'll take you like tonight, President Trump's rally is coming up in a few short minutes. First, it's time for our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. As you are watching our monologue, think about these three simple questions. Do we as a constitutional republic, do we have the right to sovereignty? Do you believe in borders? Do you believe we have a right to protect those borders, protect our sovereignty? Now, for weeks, we've been warning about the looming crisis out of the southern border, now at least 5,000 migrants have already arrived in the Mexican border city of Tijuana with thousands more still on the way. Now, they are all demanding entry into the U.S., most under an asylum designation. But over the weekend, we saw several hundreds of these so-called asylum- seekers, look at what they're doing, they are rushing the U.S. border. They are hurling rocks, bottles, other objects over the fencing. Three border patrol officers were struck. We have broken windows, damaged vehicles of border patrol in order to protect the border themselves, U.S. Border Patrol agents fired non-lethal teargas to disperse the mob of migrants trying to break across by force. Earlier today, Border Patrol Chief Carla Provost, she described this tense and the scary situation, take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CARLA PROVOST, U.S. BORDER PATROL CHIEF: Our agents were being assaulted, large group rushed the area and there were throwing rocks and bottles at my men and women, putting them in harm's way as well as other members of the caravan. We needed to disperse the group and with that assaultive nature, it was imperative that we disperse them from the area. STEVE DOOCY, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: So it wasn't because they seem to be running towards the United States, it was because they were hitting your border patrol with rocks and bottles? PROVOST: Yes, sir, they were. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And meanwhile, over at fake news CNN, San Diego's chief border patrol agent, Rodney Scott, had this to say about those who rush the border. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE TV ANCHOR: Explained the decision to use the teargas, because that is one question I think people have this morning. RODNEY SCOTT, CHIEF PATROL AGENT, SAN DIEGO SECTOR BORDER PATROL: So, one of our primary missions is to make sure that we keep the border safe and secure. I kind of challenge that this was a peaceful protest or that the majority of these people were claiming asylum. We ended up making about 42 arrests, only eight of those were females and there were only a few children involved. The vast majority of people we are dealing with here are adult males. Similar to what we saw the first wave of the caravan that came up about a week or so ago, the group immediately started throwing rocks and debris at our agents, taunting the agents. Once our agents were assaulted and the numbers started growing, we had two or three agents at a time initially facing hundreds of people at a time. They deployed teargas to protect themselves and to protect the border. If they were truly asylum-seekers they would've just walked up with their hands up and surrendered, and that did not take place. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And just a few moments ago on "The Story," Chief Scott also had this to say about the migrants. Just take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SCOTT: We took this caravan very serious from day one. It's like no caravan we've ever seen before. You've heard reports that caravans happen all the time. That's true, but not caravans that have a propensity for this type of violence and not these massive numbers of people. We watched as they came up through Mexico, the violence that they were subjecting the Mexican police and the military too. We prepared accordingly. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: More violent than previous caravans. This is a serious situation. We don't want anybody to get hurt and we do know a lot about those now trying to cross our border. By the way, even on conspiracy TV MSNBC, a reporter actually stumbled upon the truth and told it. The majority of migrants at the border, they are not asylum-seekers, they are mostly men looking for a better life and I believe that probably about 99 percent of them, but we will tell you more in a second. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: She says she is hoping they give her a chance to work. That's what we've heard from this family, this family hasn't really talked about asylum per se, they are saying they don't even want to come to the United States and definitely, they are going to be asking for permission to work for three to four years. From what we've seen, the majority are actually men and some of these men have not articulated that need for asylum. Instead, they have talked about, you know, going to the United States for a better life and to find work. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Border security should not be a partisan issue. While most individuals who try to integrate into the U.S., I understand that they come from countries, no opportunities, poverty, good, decent people. They want what we often take for granted. But that's not always the case. Bad people constantly trying to gain access into our country. I've been down to the border more than anyone else that I know when the media, about 13 times. I've witnessed illicit drug smuggling operations, drug warehouses, human trafficking, violent gang members arrested. I've sat through a briefing with then Governor Rick Perry showed, what, 642,000 crimes committed against Texans alone at the hands of illegal immigrants in just a seven-year period. This week, a suspected illegal immigrants charged with killing a Texas teacher during a hit-and-run incident and according to the DHS, they have identified, along with Mexican officials, over 500 criminals that have infiltrated the migrant caravan. Bad people moving among those that want opportunity. Those with criminal records always actively trying to get into the U.S. in order to protect the safety and security of everyone living here, we've got to protect our borders. If we had a secure wall right now, nobody would be in harm's way. In lieu of a robust border wall, this country will always be vulnerable. If you saw it this weekend, look at the videos, look at the pictures, as agents forced to defend themselves against hundreds of so-called asylum- seekers who were attempting to break into the United States by force. By the way, those who seek asylum don't generally assault U.S. border patrol officers. And there are about 10,000 or up to 10,000 more people coming. But not according to the left. Liberals, Democrats, the media now waging a full- scale smear campaign against those defending our rule of law, our country. One Democratic senator actually tweeted, then deleted, a suggestion that the border patrol engage in a chemical weapons attack. Why? By firing teargas? Rihanna called the Border Patrol's actions, quote, terrorism. And then there's that Democratic, well, I guess, rock star, Ocasio-Cortez, tweeting, quote, this: asking to be considered a refugee and applying for status isn't a crime. It wasn't for Jewish families fleeing Germany. It wasn't for targeted families fleeing Rwanda. It wasn't for communities fleeing war-torn Syria. By the way, last time I checked throwing rocks and bottles at law enforcement generally doesn't count as an application for refugee status. In any comparison, by the way, as Lindsey Graham pointed out in a tweet today of the Holocaust to modern-day Central America does an extreme disservice to those who suffer and were murdered with unbelievable evil under Nazi Germany. The demonization of the Border Patrol, Trump administration continued all over TV. Predictable but sad. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDOE CLIP) PADMA LAKSHMI: We have plenty in this country, plenty to share, plenty for everybody and I think we need to remember that the reason we are great is because of this melting pot of immigrants. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There has got to be a pragmatic and compassionate answer here that does not involve teargassing children. That is not who America is. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Using teargas in this situation does not seem justified. We are investigating the facts on the ground but the Border Patrol has a history of using unnecessary force. SEN. BEN CARDIN (D), MARYLAND: Here we look at children being subjected to teargas, that's the United States causing that. That's outrageous. SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I), VERMONT: She's on the wrong side of history and the wrong side of decency. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are not a military dictatorship. And the military does have a certain level of independence as a commander-in-chief. But the military also does have the authority to decide for themselves where there are more lines that they will or won't cross. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So what should border patrol do when they are being hit with rocks and bottles and other things? What you just saw is just pure politics in motion. People literally lying to you. You saw the video, we will show it again tonight. In 2013, interestingly during the height of the Obama administration, guess what? Border Patrol agents did the exact same thing. Quote: They used pepper spray to fend off a group of 100 migrants who attempted to rush the same exact port of entry. So where is the mainstream left-wing media's outrage then? You know, where were Democratic tweets, Democrats tweeting dramatic tweets accusing the president of all sorts of things? Of course, that was then, this is now, and while the security threats of unvented immigration remain the same, the politics of the left have changed and changed dramatically. We've shown you the video over and over again. They now believe it's politically expedient to push for open borders, unfettered immigration, sanctuary cities, the end of ICE. And that's what Democratic presidential hopeful Kamala Harris actually compared, said, well, there's a perception out there, isn't there, with ICE and the KKK. Now, the left is trying to score political points over what is now an actual real crisis. Our border patrol agents deserve our protection. The rule of law needs to be adhered to. They don't seem to care about the 500 criminals that Mexico and the U.S. have identified as having infiltrated the caravan. They don't care about the extreme security risks associated with illegal immigration. They sure don't care that each illegal immigrant according to the study held three weeks ago that successfully enters the country cost you the American taxpayer around $70,000 per year. And sadly, the left only cares about winning, no matter the cost, no matter the damage, no matter the risk. They are not getting rocks hurled at them, or bottles hurled at them, clearly political. Sadly this is just the beginning. Let me make a prediction. Over the next two years, the left's sole focus will be destroyed Trump, for years, I have warned you, what, about the five forces out to destroy this president. We had two years of nonstop attempts at delegitimizing a duly elected president. The Democrats, one, the mainstream media, two, the deep state, three, weak Republicans four, and never Trumpers, they want to be proven right. So, mark my words. As we now had into January, the hate Trump House of Representatives, when they take power, those five forces will align and spew anti-Trump vitriol every second, every minute, every hour, every day. Good news for us -- they will overreach. They will really extend what they think is a mandate that is not. What they won't to do, sadly, is anything that will help the people of this country. You, the people, we, the people. And that is the most -- right now, we have the most radical left-wing House of Representatives this country is ever seen. There are no more moderates. And, of course, the deep stateside, we've been witnessing Mueller's destroyed Trump partisan witch hunt play out for, what, the past 558 days. And breaking tonight, this is huge news, Mueller is alleging that his top target, Paul Manafort -- remember, the target was about loan applications years ago, tax violations years ago. They are saying that he lied to investigators after agreeing to his plea deal. We also learned that Roger Stone's associate Jerome Corsi, he has rejected a plea deal from Robert Mueller. The deal involved Corsi pleading guilty to one count of perjury. Gregg Jarrett will join us in a moment. Here's what he noted, what we are seeing here is the classic Mueller- Weissmann tactic, using threats and coercion to get people basically to test the lie. In other words, what that usually means is you either tell us what we want you to tell us, you lie, or you are going to get punished. Think about this. If they said what Mueller wanted, Corsi and Manafort, all they have to do is saying what they're basically saying they want to hear. They would likely get a better deal. By not doing this, it means both those men know that they may be risking spending the rest of their lives in jail and they have decided not to do it. This is a profound development and I can't wait to hear the full back story in both cases. Look at General Flynn, 30 plus years serving his country. The FBI didn't even think he lied. Comey didn't think he lied. Strzok didn't think he lied. But he was on the brink of bankruptcy, had to sell his home to pay his attorneys, so they turned the screws, probably threatened to go after his own son and now he's awaiting sentencing. And, by the way, and they didn't even believe he lied. Then there's George Papadopoulos. He's now in jail for two weeks. He feels like he was set up big time, just look at his tweets. He will be locked up for the next 14 days. We'll talk to him afterwards. And as any of us have anything to do with Russia collusion? Nothing. Because there is none. There is no Trump- Russia collusion. But we have been able to reveal on this program Clinton collusion. But they cared about collusion, they certainly don't care about that because if they did, they would look at surveillance abuse, oh, unmasking abuse, leaking intelligence abuse, lying to FISA courts and committing fraud upon the courts. They would look at the circular leaks of the phony dossier. They would look at how the dossier was used to lie to the American people before the election and how Hillary paid for those Russian lives. They never told the FISA court this. No one seems to care in Mueller's office. Hillary's bought and paid for Russian lies. This has literally become the biggest travesty of justice, a one-sided witch hunt that has no interest in truth or real Russia collusion. Hillary can pay for Russian lies, they don't care. They can propagandize and lie to the American people, they don't care. Even the author of the dossier, Christopher Steele, even he doesn't stand by the dossier. So, my warning is buckle up because Democrats are going to rehash all of it Democrats take the House. We'll have a lot more later in the program. But first, and just moments, we're going to take your life, as you can see, to Mississippi, the president is currently about to rally voters ahead of this important runoff tomorrow between Republican Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith and liberal Democrat Mike Espy. This is a really important race that is definitely in play, if you are in Mississippi, because a win for the Republican Hyde-Smith, well, that means an opportunity for the GOP to solidify its lead in the Senate. It's either going to be 53-47 or 52-48, and remember, votes in the Senate are so important, especially when it comes to things like, oh, confirming, constitutionalist, originalist justices, for the president to make important appointments like replacing Jeff Sessions. And you have Democrat Mike Espy, a far liberal that clearly supports Chuck Schumer and the rest of his radical Democrats already in Washington. He has been dodged by many ethical questions stemming from his recent work, lobbying work for an alleged war criminal from the West African country, the Ivory Coast. Espy was also forced out of the Clinton administration back in '94 while under investigation for allegedly receiving improper gifts. While he was acquitted for the 30 felony charges, the independent counsel found a pattern of, quote, improper behavior. Now, regardless of what the mainstream media wants you to believe, this race is very simple, Hyde-Smith is a vote for the Trump agenda. That means confirming originalist justices, a vote for Espy is a vote for the swamp and Chuck Schumer, it's that simple. So, Mississippi, this race matters and I hope you vote tomorrow. OK. Now, we are awaiting any minute now the president I believe, if I see right, and might be put Mike Pence up there, I think it is, and he's not on stage yet. We have a lot of news also about the deep state that we are going to get to. Joining us with analysis, the author of the number one "New York Times" best seller, "The Russia Hoax", FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, "The Hill's" executive vice president, investigative columnist John Solomon, FOX News investigative reporter and contributor, Sara Carter. Gregg, let's start with Manafort and Corsi. Both of them know what the special counsel wants to hear. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Sure. HANNITY: They are not giving it to them. That means they are risking, maybe both of them, they are older, may be risking their whole life in jail as a result of just not saying what Mueller's team wants. Explain the process here. JARRETT: Well, if it's true, they are to be commended for refusing to lie. All too often, overzealous prosecutors don't care about the truth, they care about charges and convictions. And so, they use tactics of coercion and threats and bribery and extortion to get people to sign a sheet of paper that they know is a lie in order to implicate someone else based on false evidence. You know, if you and I did that, Sean, it would be suborning perjury, but somehow over the years we've allowed the government to do it and it is unconscionable and it is wrong. And that appears to be what's happening here. But we just don't know quite yet. HANNITY: Think about this, they know what they want these guys to say. They know what they want them to say to them. They say it, they probably get out of jail, get a get out of jail free card, get out of jail early card. They both are saying they refused to do it. JARRETT: That's right. HANNITY: To me, that means -- that takes an act of courage because spending the rest of your life in jail is not a fun prospect. (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: It is an act of courage. And the question is, is Mueller capable of this? Well, as you pointed out, all we have to do is look at his treatment of Michael Flynn, who told the truth and yet Mueller went after him, threatening his son and broke Flynn financially in order to get him to cop a plea to something he honestly didn't do. HANNITY: Let me go to John Solomon. JARRETT: FBI agents determined he told the truth and yet Mueller charged him with lying. HANNITY: You can comment on this, John, but you've also been following this migrant story. JOHN SOLOMON, INVESTIGATIVE COLUMNIST, THE HILL: Yes, I -- HANNITY: I'm looking at this video. Go ahead. SOLOMON: Yes, a couple of quick things. First, one of the clearer things tonight is that Bob Mueller is clearly winding down. He's ready to sentence Manafort, that's one of the headlines that doesn't get noticed. But he's ready to move forward, he's going to sentence Manafort. He's wrapping this investigation up. This thing is winding down. We're going to find out these facts and work through them and I think people will know the truth soon. On the migrant crisis, one of the top officials on The Hill TV show this morning he said three things that I thought were really important. One is those troops that the president sent to the border, they are not window dressing or eye candy. They've been very helpful for establishing security. Two, it would be more helpful if they had a wall. And, three, you thought that was a peaceful protest Sunday on the border, you weren't there. And I think those are three things that aren't cutting to the message of the media but they are important to listen, these other guys on the ground telling us what they really need. It's time that we start to listen to them. HANNITY: Let me go to you, Sara. You've been following both stories. We'll give you an opportunity to respond to both. Let's start the border. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, with the border, let's start with the border first. You know, as we are all focused on Tijuana and we see what's been happening there, we know that the majority of people that are amassing of the border are mostly men. I decided, let's call the people down in the Rio Grande sector in Texas, let's talk to the people in Yuma. And what I'm hearing is just as astounding, over the last two months, Sean, 5,000 a week have been going in to the Rio Grande Valley sector, the McAllen Sector. Last week, they have 242 beds for holding in that sector. Guess how many people were in a holding center? Twenty-seven hundred. And I got this from the union representative Chris Cabrera just tonight before I came on the air. So, there is a huge problem not just in Tijuana, but while we are all focused there, let's not forget about the rest of the roughly nearly 2,000-mile border. And if were going to talk about Mueller in the investigation, this is what the special counsel does, right? So, they are pressurizing -- they're putting pressure on everybody, that Paul Manafort, everyone else, Jerome Corsi, they are wrapping up. But this is standing a message to the judges because they want the maximum effect -- the maximum sentencing because this is all they have. No collusion. Nothing. HANNITY: Paul Manafort in jail for the rest of his life because he won't give it a lie you are asking for. That's basically it. All right. CARTER: Yes, and Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, we are seeing what's happening with that. Look, he's coming up for sentencing and we know what John said was a fact. There was no collusion, that's exactly what the FBI had been saying from the beginning. HANNITY: We got to break. Thank you all. Great work. We appreciate it, we will follow this in more detail tomorrow. We expect when we come back we will take you live. The president, it's an important race in Mississippi, very big race tomorrow. It's either 53-47 or 52-48. If you're in Mississippi, it's important. Also tonight, an exclusive interview with Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen on the migrant crisis, caravan and more. We'll go to Mississippi when we get back. HANNITY: All right. Perfect timing, the president is in Biloxi, Mississippi, right now. He just took to the stage campaigning for Senate candidate Cindy Hyde-Smith ahead of tomorrow's special election against Mike Espy. It's an important Senate election. It's either going to be 53- 47, 52-48, it's a big race. Take a look. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STAES: It's about time, it's about time. Under Republican leadership, America is winning again, America is respected again. We are respected like at no time before. And I can tell you I am meeting constantly with foreign leaders and they walk in and they say, Mr. President, it's incredible, what's happened with your country in such a short period of time. America is respected again. (APPLAUSE) We've unleashed the greatest economic comeback in American history. More Americans are working today than ever before. Think of that, today, right now, more Americans are working in our country than at any time before, so that's a big thing. That's a big thing. (APPLAUSE) We've created 4.5 million new jobs, and we've lifted 4.3 million Americans off of food stamps. (APPLAUSE) The unemployment rate just hit the lowest level in more than 50 years and here in Mississippi the unemployment rate has hit its lowest level of all time. Congratulations, Mississippi. (APPLAUSE) African-American unemployment has reached the lowest rate ever recorded. African-American youth unemployment has reached the lowest rate ever recorded. And African-American poverty is at an all-time low. (APPLAUSE) Remember what I used to say. What the hell do you have to lose, right? Well, we've produced and we are going to continue to produce. Republicans passed a massive tax cuts for Mississippi families. We eliminated a record number of job killing regulations and America is now the number one producer of energy on the planet earth. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Not even close. And that took place pretty quickly, didn't it? We are taking care of our veterans and our military will soon be more powerful than it has ever been before. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And because of that incredible power, hopefully we will never have to use it, right? But to protect these amazing achievements, Mississippi must defend our Senate Republican majority. You know, we had a fantastic evening and day very recently, the midterms, we got very little credit from the fake news media, very little credit. (CROWD BOOING) TRUMP: They talked about the House, but the people I campaigned for in the House, which was very few, I can't -- look, and one person. But the people I campaigned, like in Kentucky, Andy Barr and so many others, they won, but the people I campaigned for, generally, the governor of Georgia, governor of Florida. Governor of Ohio. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Tennessee. Senator, great new senator from Tennessee. Indiana. North Dakota. Missouri. Florida. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And many, many others. We got very little credit but if we win tomorrow, we go 53 to 47 and nobody can believe it. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Fifty-three to 47, they are not happy. The fake news is not happy about those numbers. But that really does, that gives us very much of a breather and for those of you that study politics, when the sitting president picks up a seat, let alone like we've done, that's considered a big deal. For whatever reason. For whatever reason. But I used to say I think that's going to happen and I have to tell you, we had three seats, even four seats that were so close we almost won in areas that a lot of people say don't bother contesting. We almost won in four states that a lot of people said don't bother, you can't win. I said let's give it a shot and I will tell you-- (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: -- a little tricky business going on, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt, right? If you let Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters and Chuck Schumer-- (CROWD BOOING) TRUMP: -- win the Mississippi Senate seat, they will try to erase all of our gains, reverse all of our progress and oppose -- you know this, they want to impose their extreme job killing agenda and I just said -- you just set your all- time record in Mississippi for jobs. It can disappear quickly with the wrong leadership. We don't want that to happen. So, if you want more jobs, less crime, strong borders, how are we doing on the borders? (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Then you only have one choice tomorrow. You must vote Republican. We are honored tonight to be joined by several really terrific Mississippi Republican leaders and we will start with a friend of mine, he has been so incredible. Seven months ago, he took me around to see things and then he showed me something that he's maybe the most proud of all of, the African- American museum, Phil Bryant put his guts and his life and his blood into it. Number one, it's doing fantastically, but number two, I loved it, and he did a fantastic job. He has a great governor, Governor Phil Bryant. Where is Phil? (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Come here, Phil. Come here, Phil. Come on up here, Phil. We have to get him up here, right? (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Great governor. GOV. PHIL BRYANT, (R) MISSISSIPPI: Mr. President, thank you so much. Are we having a great night tonight? (APPLAUSE) BRYANT: Are we proud to have Donald J. Trump in the house! You are here, he is here to help elect Cindy Hyde- Smith and make America great again! God bless you, Mississippi! (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Thanks, Phil. Thank you, Phil, great job. Lieutenant Governor Tate Reeves. Lieutenant governor. Where is our lieutenant governor? Where is he? Crazy? Thank you, Tate. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: A man who has been spectacular, the job he's done, everyone is talking about it. U.S. Attorney Mike Hearst. Mike, thank you, Mike. Thank you, Mike. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: A very good friend of mine, he's always there, he is always available and he has very smart. He loves the people of Mississippi. He loves the people of our country. Senator Roger Wicker. Roger! (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Thank you, Roger. Great job. And a man that did so well recently, it will go down for a long time, you are going to be seeing those words, they were beautiful words and they were needed very desperately at that time. Brett Kavanaugh was being treated very unfairly, very, very unfairly, and Lindsey Graham got up-- (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: -- and he hit a chord that you hit very rarely in the world of politics or anything else, he said things that were said not only so well, the meaning of what he said really changed the course of that event and now we have a great, great Supreme Court justice, Brett Kavanaugh. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Lindsey Graham. Lindsey, thank you, Lindsey. Thank you. Thank you, Lindsey. He really did, that was very special. We are all here tonight to support an amazing leader and a tremendous champion for this great state, a woman who went to Washington-- HANNITY: All right. As the president goes through his introductions, and I assume that he will next be introducing Cindy Hyde-Smith, we go really quickly -- we will get back to that in a second as he gets back to substance. The author of a brand-new book by the way, "Trump's Enemies: How the Deep State is Undermining the Presidency," former Trump campaign manager, Cory Lewandowski, former Trump deputy campaign manager David Bossie. Guys, this election -- by the way, I want to get into the substance of your book. It's really well written, a little scary. Let's talk a little about - - I'm sorry, guys? Dave Bossie, let me, all right, they are talking in my ear. Dave Bossie, this race tomorrow is very important as the president goes here 53-47, 52-48, in the Senate, a big difference. DAVID BOSSIE, FORMER TRUMP DEPUTY CAMPAIGN MANAGER: You know what, this race has to go our way. We have to have the senator get reelected. Senator Hyde-Smith must get reelected tomorrow and it's important for the president's agenda, for our America first agenda. This president is working, again, as hard as he can for every candidate, to get every single voter to the polls tomorrow. HANNITY: You know, you look at the importance. It's so funny because in his first midterm, Clinton lost eight Senate seats, 52 House seats. BOSSIE: That's right. HANNITY: Obama lost six Senate seats, 63 House seats, 69-60 and this president nets, it looks like, you know, what we netted Florida, big change in Missouri, North Dakota, Indiana. Huge wins for the president and the places he campaigns the hardest. BOSSIE: That's exactly what we just heard the president talk about. This president is the greatest campaigner we've ever seen and it is exciting to watch him during the midterm elections in September and October really turning up the volume. He's here again in Mississippi for a must win tomorrow and I think he's going to get her across the finish line. And that way we have an easier time in the Senate getting our nominees through, getting judges through and passing important legislation to move America forward. HANNITY: You know, Corey Lewandowski, I know you and Dave co-authored this book, your second, by the way. "Trump's Enemies," about the deep state and I talk about the five forces. Explain to people exactly what's going on and why this is so dangerous, something we have been delving into deeply, doing a deep dive here on this program almost every night. COREY LEWANDOWSKI, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Well, Sean, you know, the permanent bureaucracy and Washington, D.C., is one that transitions from one administration to the other and what they have done particularly to Donald Trump, who is a change agent when he came to Washington, was to stop his agenda by obfuscation, by subverting the will of what he wants to get done, by putting things out to pasture, by using the bureaucracy. And what this president wants to do now is he's very clear, he's going to get his agenda done and that includes draining the swamp and bringing people to Washington, D.C., who understand that putting America first is not just a slogan, but as a way of life. HANNITY: We saw that in the last election, interestingly. Although the media won't give him credit. All right. So the book is called "Trump's Enemies, About the Deep State," at Amazon.com, bookstores everywhere. Guys, I can't help it but the president is taking your time, so you have to forgive me. But congratulations, both of you on the book. Thanks for being with us tonight. We'll have you back soon. LEWANDOWSKI: Thanks, Sean. BOSSIE: Thanks very much. HANNITY: All right. What we are going to do is while we are now watching Cindy Hyde-Smith speak, we are going to take a break. When we come back, we will go back to the president, his rally in Mississippi in the lead up obviously to tomorrow's important special election there. A lot at stake in Mississippi that open Senate seat. We'll hear the president talk more about the borders, Mueller's investigation I'm sure will come up. We'll carry it live right here. HANNITY: Thanks for sticking with us as we go back to live, Biloxi, Mississippi, the president holding a rally for Cindy Hyde-Smith ahead of tomorrow's special election. This is a big deal, it's either going to be 53-47 or 52-48. This election is important for the U.S. Senate confirmations for Supreme Court justices. Back to the president. TRUMP: Climbing those walls would be a very painful experience right now. Republicans are committed to halting this incursion and defending the sovereign borders of the United States. We are sending a simple message to the lawless caravans and to the illegal trespassers marching towards our border. It's very simple, turn back now, go back home, we will not let you in. We are not going to let you win. Turn back now. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Illegal immigration is also deeply unfair to American workers, including African-American workers, people don't realize what happens. My administration will always put the citizens of our country first. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: The policies of open borders are a threat to every community. Since I took office ICE agents have arrested over 235,000 aliens with criminal records, can you believe that, 235,000? (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: That's a lot. And by the way, they want to get rid of ICE, can you believe it? These are tough, strong, brilliant people that also happen to love our country. And I don't want that job, and you don't want it, and you don't want it, and you don't want it, and you might take it right there. He might. This guy, I think you could qualify. Including those charged or convicted of more than 100,000 assaults and nearly 4,000 murders. And we're getting MS-13 out, we are taking them out by the thousands and shipping them the hell out of here. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: We are getting them out. In the state of Texas alone, according to the Texas Department of Public Safety, between 2011 and 2018, more than 663,000 crimes were committed by illegal immigrants. You hear these stories about they don't commit crimes, we commit crimes, they don't commit crimes. Always it's us. No, no. It doesn't work that way, it's fake news. Fake news. (CROWD BOOING) TRUMP: Just recently an illegal alien released by a sanctuary city in New Jersey was charged with a triple homicide in another state. In just one operation alone our ICE officers arrested 355 MS-13 gang members on Long Island and in the New York City area. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Of those, nearly half were present in the country because they took advantage of the Democrat-backed loophole granting entry to unaccompanied alien minors. Welcome to the United States. Yet, Democrats want to abolish ICE. They want to turn America into one giant sanctuary city for violent criminals and MS-13 and other gang killers. No, thank you. No, thank you. No, thank you. (CROWD BOOING) TRUMP: Republicans believe America should be a sanctuary for law-abiding citizens, not criminal aliens. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Every single day, we are finding the illegal alien gang members and predators and we are either throwing them the hell out of here, putting them in jail or just plain getting them out of our country as nicely as possible. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Tomorrow's election is about safety and tomorrow's election is about prosperity. For decades, Washington politicians allowed foreign countries to plunder our jobs, shutter our factories and decimate our industries. I've been talking about it for 20 years. When I was in the private sector -- I can't believe I'm not in the private sector, now they call me a politician. I'm a politician, I can't stand it. They said he's a political person. But I've only had one race, and look at the results, here we are. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And we are only going to have one more race and hopefully that result will be even better, because we produced. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Trillions of dollars were ripped from our nation and redistributed all across the globe. We've distributed money and we've distributed our wealth, it's been ripped away from us. It's been taken and given to China and given to Japan and given to South Korea and given to South America and given to everybody all over the world. It's been given to everybody but us. We racked up $4.5 trillion in trade deficits with China since they entered the WTO, that's the World Trade Organization, which other than NAFTA is probably the worst trade deal in any country has ever entered and we entered it and that's what built China into the power, but now we are the big power, we are far more powerful and that's the way we are going to keep it. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: We had an annual trade deficit. (CROWD CHANTING) TRUMP: Thank you. (CROWD CHANTING) TRUMP: We had an annual trade deficit, listen to this, who made these deals? Who made them? Almost $800 billion a year we lose on trade, we are stopping that, we are turning that, we just made a great new deal with Canada, with Mexico, but of course they have to treat us fairly, otherwise we we'll just tax their product when it comes to us, you know that. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: You know that. You know that. You know what I'm talking about. Entire nations were built at the expense of America's middle class, and frankly, at the expense of America's business. This massive transfer of wealth represented the greatest jobs theft in the history of the world. Greatest jobs theft. And you know what, I don't blame China and I don't blame these other countries. I blame the leaders of the United States that allowed this to happen. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Why shouldn't the other countries try and make these great deals that they've made? I told President Xi, I mean, it's over. I said it's over, but I don't blame you. I don't blame you at all. I wish we had people that did the same thing in reverse, but we didn't have those people, unfortunately. Here in Mississippi you lost four out of 10 manufacturing jobs in the last 20 years alone, but those days are over, that's why you're doing so well now, and you do have a great, great governor, I have to say. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: America's economic surrender ended the day that I took the oath of office, it ended. And, you know what, it really was -- through stupidity it was an economic surrender. Economic surrender. Why we allowed it to happen, how we allowed it to happen, why these politicians didn't do their job, it's a disgrace. So, we are not going to be taken advantage of anymore. Under my administration, we've created 600,000 brand- new manufacturing jobs that people said could never come back to our country. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Remember the previous administration? Remember the previous administration said manufacturing jobs, that will never happen. I kept saying what's he talking about, manufacturing. We got to make things, right? They said manufacturing jobs would never come back, you would need a magic wand. Well, we found the magic wand. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And they are great jobs, they are high paying jobs, they are brilliant jobs, they are important jobs. Look at what's-- HANNITY: Election there tomorrow for the U.S. Senate. This will be the final seat decided there. We've got to take one more break. I apologize, it's not my rules. Anyway, we'll have more HANNITY right after this. HANNITY: All right. So, the president continues the speech in Biloxi, Mississippi. This runoff election is really important because the difference between Republicans having 53-47 in the Senate majority or 52- 48, big difference when it comes to judges, big difference when it comes to confirmations. So, we'll get to -- we'll watch that very closely. We will have results tomorrow. Also, tomorrow, an exclusive interview with the Homeland Security Secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen on exactly what happened at the border, we'll cover that. We'll tell you the truth other networks are not. Lindsey Graham will join us. That's all the time we have left. But we'll see you tomorrow at 9. Let not your heart be troubled. There she is. Load-Date: November 27, 2018 End of Document Left-Leaning Media Using Manipulation By Emotion In Reporting The Crisis Happening In The Southern Border; Chaos Has Erupted Making The San Ysidro Port Of Entry Temporarily Closed; Migrants Using Women And Children As Shield While Throwing Rocks Towards Border Patrol Agents; U.S. Border Patrol Clashes With Members Of Migrant Caravan; Jerome Corsi Turns Down Plea Deal With Special Counsel Mueller; Special Counsel Mueller Announces New Charges Against Paul Manafort; Analysts Examine Possible 2020 Presidential Contenders Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 26, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8489 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Mollie Hemingway, Matt Schlapp, Trace Gallagher Guests: Steve Scalise, Tom Homan, Jeff Paul, Hector Garza, Art Arthur, Sol Wisenberg, Chris Hahn Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Also tomorrow, an exclusive interview with Homeland Security Secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen will join us and exactly what's happened at the border. We'll cover that. We'll tell you the truth all the networks will not. Lindsey Graham will join us. That's all the time we have left, but we'll see you tomorrow at 9:00. Let not your heart be troubled. There she is, Laura Ingraham. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Right at 10:00. Look, you hit it right at 10:00 (inaudible) -- I'm just taking at my time now (inaudible). HANNITY: Excuse me. I didn't take one second off your time. It was dead on at the zero-zero mark. INGRAHAM: Did you have -- you know, I am delighted -- I am delighted to talk to you. You know why Hannity? I want to find out -- did you already make turkey soup with that deep-fried turkey that you made? You have the soup from the -- HANNITY: Do you want to know the truth? INGRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: OK, there wasn't any left to make any turkey soup. INGRAHAM: Oh, please. Did you invite the homeless? HANNITY: It is the juiciest, moistest, most delicious. It's a butterball turkey fryer, Masterbuilt. Go to Home Depot. Make another turkey. Compare. INGRAHAM: This is the worst product placement. You have said this like at least every time. HANNITY: It's not product placement. I am telling you it's the best. INGRAHAM: Send me one. Send me one at this point. I'm getting one from HANNITY. HANNITY: OK. You know what I'm going to do? I am going to send you. I'm going to mail - text me your address. I have no idea where you live -- and I will mail it to you. I will have it sent to your house tomorrow. INGRAHAM: No, but you have to come and cook the turkey. I'm not (inaudible). I want you to come and cook it. HANNITY: What do you mean I have to come and cook the turkey? INGRAHAM: I got an apron. Slap it on (inaudible) stay in kitchen. HANNITY: I will send you explicit instructions. You will be able to figure it out. INGRAHAM: All right. We got to get -- this is fascinating. HANNITY: A 15-pound turkey, get this, 45 minutes, done. INGRAHAM: (Inaudible) forget Fox Nation. You and I are just doing a cookie. Forget that doozy with a cooking show. All right Hannity, great show tonight. HANNITY: Have a good show. INGRAHAM: All right, you take care. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington. Majority whip Steve Scalise, Tom Homan, Sol Wisenberg, Matt Schlapp, Mollie Hemingway, a lot more going to join us in moments. But first, let's get into the big news of the day. How to heal a lame duck? Yes, that's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. If you have caught any news about the border crisis in the last 24 hours, you have been subjected to a disgusting and blatant attempt at emotional manipulation. Now, at a time when we actually need something called real reporting, instead we get this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NICOLE WALLACE, MSNBC HOST: Look at the photo. See for yourself. That group includes men, women, and several children, some of them trying to cross after being denied access to the port of entry where they could legally claim asylum. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: One photo shows a mother struggling to scoop up her children and flee the fumes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This photo shared around the world shows a family running from the fumes. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's it, it's the one photo. On Sunday, in a brazen act of lawlessness, scores of migrants attempted to rush the border, and they placed our agents, our sovereignty, in peril. Border patrol had two choices. Let them over on the U.S. border like what they did to Mexico or Guatemala or use nonlethal teargas to repel the crowd. Now, these are the only images the media are circulating -- women and children who appear to be running for their lives. The hyperbole, the meter on the hyperbole was in full tilt mode. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a shameful American moment. It's a shameful American moment. Those children, those pictures are the pictures we saw at the end of the Vietnam War. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, no one wants to see children in distress. But that comment was an embarrassment. And remember, Donald Trump didn't create this crisis. His foremost responsibility is safeguarding the nation, which is what he's doing. Reporters who are either lazy or agenda-driven are using their own toxic agents to blur the eyes of the public on this critical issue. Now, this is what really happened on Sunday. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRANDON JUDD, PRESIDENT, NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL: The way these people rushed the border was absolutely monstrous. They pushed women and children up front and then behind those women and children, they started throwing rocks, cement bricks. They started throwing bottles at our Border Patrol agents. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Just a bunch of modern-day patriots. And as for the mothers and children, well, do they make up the bulk of those arrested? No. Here is our San Diego border Chief Rodney Scott. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RODNEY SCOT, SAN DIEGO BORDER PATROL CHIEF: We are making about 42 arrests, only eight of those were females and there were only a few children involved. The vast majority, the people we are dealing with are adult males similar to what we saw of the first wave of the caravan that came up about a week or so ago. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now -- in total now, about 69 arrests have been made and the crisis continues to escalate, which THE ANGLE repeatedly warned you would happen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: A new migrant caravan from Central America, the second in six months, is now headed up through Mexico to the United States this week. Crusading reporters are feeding the narrative that anyone opposed to welcoming these caravans into our country are cruel, horrible, awful, rotten people. These caravans, it's got to stop. I mean, it's just -- it's untenable. It's unsustainable. The people in this country want orderly immigration. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, of course the atom splitters over at the other networks claimed it was no big deal. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There is no invasion. There is no emergency. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are panicked about this fake invasion. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For everybody out there that was telling me, no, it's a real story. We are worried about the caravan to come in and Trump strong enough to -- I go back to what I said about Martians coming to my backyard. They are not coming and the caravan is not coming. The leprosy is not coming. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: A thought is not coming. It's not just the media know nothings though who need to be exposed here. We are making a list and we are checking it twice. And others have been very naughty as well on this issue. One of the prime drivers of these never ending caravans are groups such as Pueblo sin Fronteras and a Chicago-based Sentro Sin Fronteras. They have been organizing this caravan and other caravans for months, in fact, years. And Pueblo Sin Fronteras even put out a press release, this was last March. It reads like some type of primer for a borderless world. This is my favorite line in the press release, "We demand of Mexico and the United States that they open the borders to the U.S. because we are as much citizens as the people of the countries where we are and/or travel." What? OK, they are not American citizens, but this is a classic citizens of the world claptrap that's been funded by billionaires who want transmigration to be universal right. Now, number two on our naughty list, activist judges. Acting like a super legislature, district court judges continue to frustrate the president's every initiative when it comes to immigration enforcement. Just last week, the president was hit with two devastating rulings. In the first case, Judge Jon S. Tigar, an Obama appointee from the Ninth Circuit (inaudible) bar the president from limiting asylum claims to those who enter the country legally. Then in Michigan, a Judge Marc Goldsmith ordered the release of nearly 100 Iraqis who were incarcerated under the Trump travel ban. Now, all of this explains why the president is running very short on patience. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It's a shame. It's a shame. It's a disgrace frankly. Some judge sitting at some location very far away is telling our incredible military and law enforcement what to do, and it's not right and that's been going on like that for a long time. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: These nationwide injunctions got to be stopped. Now, he's absolutely right. Certain judges have completely abandoned their article III limits and are totally out of control. But Congress, perhaps more than all of the other culprits on this naughty list, deserves the most of the blame here. Now, both parties could have solved this nightmare had they acted to shore up the asylum loopholes while Obama was still president. Democrats should have struck a deal also with Trump while the iron was hot last January. Republicans were willing to grant a pathway to citizenship for nearly 2 million illegals, fixing the DACA problem. They (inaudible) do this for a limit on chain migration and visa lottery and of course the funding for his border wall. Now Trump was actually excited about the prospect of this deal. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: I will consider that a great achievement to solve the DACA problem. It's been out there a long time. These are good people. These are people that should be able to stay in this country. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, it didn't matter. Schumer rejected this out of hand. It was more important in the end for the Democrats to deny Trump a win on immigration than it was for the Democrats to agree to protect our country. And even avoid the type of crisis we see on the border now. Now, at the same time, many weak-kneed Republicans, many of whom are captive to agribusiness or the hospitality or construction industries, were unwilling to go to the map (ph) for the Trump agenda. So nothing ended up getting done. With 12 legislative days left until they lose power in the House and only 15 in the senate, Republicans must unite and make passing Trump's immigration enforcement agenda a priority. Working through Christmas and shutting down the government, yes, if that's necessary. This is a crisis that must be addressed immediately. And we know that once Nancy has the gavel back, the Democrats answer to things like this. It will be to just simply allow the situation to worsen, encouraging thousands more to storm our borders and put women and children at risk. The Republicans meanwhile have a chance to make this short session of Congress a lot less lame by addressing the most immediate problem facing our country today. But I am telling you if the Republicans duck it once again, they shouldn't expect to be back in charge anytime soon. And that's THE ANGLE. Joining me now with reaction is House majority whip Steve Scalise, author of the great new book "Back in the Game" along with Tom Homan, former acting director of ICE and a Fox News contributor. Congressman, let's start with you. The House GOP only has 12 days left. Was I too harsh on my ANGLE. there on where I'm laying -- REP. STEVE SCALISE (R), MAJORITY WHIP: Laura, thank you, you laid out the landscape really well and clearly this goes back to Barack Obama's presidency when he created the DACA problem without ever trying to solve it. He said literally come to America illegally, bring your kids here illegally. He never tried to fix it. They never, in fact, when Pelosi had the House, they had a super majority in the Senate. They never tried to bring a bill to fix the problem. They wanted a political issue. And so they never tried to fix it. As you pointed out again, President Trump comes into office, Chuck Schumer initially was willing to work with him on a solution to DACA that included funding for the wall. Then the radical left went nuts and Schumer pulled the deal off the table. We have tried to pass bills through the House to solve the interior loophole problems that you've cited so many times, as well as funding the wall. Not one Democrat. We've had two different approaches on this, so no matter where you are on this, there was a chance for you to vote to solve a problem. Not one Democrat voted for any of those bills. INGRAHAM: Could have shut down the government, right? SCALISE: Well, we still have, by the way, in the next two weeks the Department of Homeland Security's budget expires at the end of November. And this is going to be one more battle that we're going to have and it's going to happen in the next few weeks right here in (inaudible). INGRAHAM: We're hearing, Tom, Joni Ernst was on one of the other shows last night or yesterday. I watched it last night. Republican senator from Iowa was basically saying we can't shut down this government for the wall. These are the Republicans that we are dealing with here. I mean, Steve Scalise has done a yeoman's work with everything he's been through to try to stand for the American people. They are not many who will. You have seen this. You and I sat here at this table, Tom, and you said to me watch what happens. It's going to get worse and worse and worse and right now we have 5,000 people a week crossing our border illegally separate from the caravan. TOM HOMAN, FORMER ICE ACTING DIRECTOR: Look, I have been at this game for 34 years and unfortunately everything I said is coming true and I tell you, we had some great Republican congressmen take the bull by the horns. We had McCall (inaudible) was a great bill. And a lot of Republicans -- some of the Republicans senator support it. Of course, no Democrats did. But that fixed the problem. It fixed the loopholes. It fixed all the loopholes and gave some relief. Perfect bill. And I said it many times in your show Laura, I don't care if you're Republican or Democrat, there is no downside on securing the border, none. INGRAHAM: Paul Ryan is on his way out. I like him personally but he has never wanted to fund this wall. I'm going to say, Paul Ryan has never wanted to fund this wall. He didn't want to deal with this problem for a whole bunch of reasons. He was never comfortable with the president's immigration agenda. I think that looking back, that ended up really hurting the Republicans. If you don't have someone at the helm who is championing what the president is doing, and I don't think McConnell really want to do it either. I mean, he talks a good game but I don't think either of them really wanted to do it. SCALISE: We were able to get a $1.5 billion of new funding for border wall in this year's budget. Obviously, we want more. The president has asked for $5 billion. I would like to see us get there. We have had a number of bills to try to solve that problem. Let me make this point about the end of the year funding for the Department of Homeland Security. When people talk about a government shutdown, they try to use it in a pejorative term to try to scare people. Over 70 percent of the United States government is fully funded until the end of next year's fiscal year including the Department of Defense, which is critically important. In the past, you saw Obama use our troops as hostages to try to say hey, the troops won't get paid unless you give me X, Y or Z. We have now fully funded the entire Department of Defense, including given a pay raise to our troops. That goes through September 30th of next year. So now, all we are talking about is an important part of government but it's less than 30 percent, including the Department of Homeland Security. That's where the wall funding comes in. So, there will be no widespread government shutdown. It's all about funding the Department of Homeland Security and building the wall. HOMAN: I have to add this. In addition to the wall funding, ICE needs funding for beds, because ICE cannot detain people arrested at the border and this catch and release again, more caravans going to come. There's no consequence to deterrence, why would they stop? INGRAHAM: Rodney Scott, I know you know him. I have interviewed him so many times including down at the border in San Diego. He said what we are seeing, contrary to what all of these bleeding heart media types, most of whom would not sponsor illegal immigrants if they had to personally guarantee their economic independence, they would never do it. But they talk a good emotional game when you see the pictures, the sad picture of the people fleeing -- but Rodney Scott knows this of sector better than anyone, said this. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SCOTT: What I saw on the border yesterday was not people walking up to Border Patrol agents and asking to claim asylum. They were chanting, waving a Honduran flag and throwing rocks at the agents. If they were truly asylum- seekers, they would have just walked up with their hands up and surrendered, and that did not take place. (END VIDEO CLIP) HOMAN: And I know Rodney Scott. He's a great American patriot. And I'll add this, look. The border (inaudible) the tear gas out (inaudible) sending on rock throwers. They didn't send it on women and children. Of course the wind drift and that happens. However, you know, I want to give a shout out to NBC. They did a great storytelling. You know what they did? They interviewed that woman with the two children in the picture and she came out and said she was coming to the country to join her husband who was illegal in the country in Louisiana. Nothing about fear and persecution. So I hope that is exhibit A in her future political asylum case. This is exactly what I said. People are coming to get a job or people come here to rejoin love ones (ph). INGRAHAM: So it's a big lie. I'm trying to illustrate for people is that we actually need real reporters who put aside, whether they don't like Trump, like Trump, and they say this is how we got here. Real persecution is happening all over the world. Congressman, do you know what's happening to people like Asia Bibi, a woman in Pakistan, Catholic. SCALISE: -- make this point too, Laura. President Trump was very clear in saying that there is a legal way to come to America to seek asylum and there is an illegal way. We're not going to let you just storm a border and climb a fence. Go to a port of entry and state your case. Make your claim. That's the way to do it. INGRAHAM: Mexico is going to help us, I think. (CROSSTALK) SCALISE: The Tijuana mayor -- even the Tijuana mayor said they are getting a overridden with some of these people that are coming to attack law enforcement officers. Not to seek asylum. And by the way, most of them pass through at least one other country already that offered asylum. INGRAHAM: How many laws have they violated, Tom. How many laws they violate before they get to San Ysidro on average? HOMAN: Several, several. They enter the country legally. First crime is a misdemeanor. However, a lot of these people based on our intelligence have been deported before so when they enter the country illegally, that's a felony. But one thing I want to say from the naysayers and teargas, need to get this out. For those naysayers, put on a uniform, strap a gun to your hip, get rocks thrown at you and tell me there wasn't a better response. It was non- lethal law enforcement response that was proper considering they're being assaulted. SCALISE: And where were they when the Obama administration was using teargas? INGRAHAM: Yes, back in 2013, you have to disperse a crowd. How do you disperse a crowd? But Rihanna calls it terrorism, guys. Rihanna is upset. She doesn't have security at her concerts, right? Let's let everybody through her concert. Anyone who wants to go on-stage with Rihanna, not only can they go on-stage but they can get a hot meal at her house afterwards. I don't think so. Guys, thank you so much. And what we saw yesterday at the border reminded us that the media hand- wringing over this expanding caravan is getting worse by the day as I've just said. But there is one exchange in particular that stood out. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM ACOSTA, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: I wanted to challenge you on one of the statements that you made in the tail end of the campaign, in the midterms, that this caravan was an invasion. As you notice -- TRUMP: I considered it to be an invasion. ACOSTA: As you know, Mr. President, the caravan was not an invasion. It's a group of migrants moving up from Central America towards the border with the U.S. Your campaign had an ad showing migrants climbing over walls and so on. TRUMP: That's true. They weren't actors. They weren't actors. ACOSTA: They are not going to be doing that. They are hundreds of miles away though. They are hundreds and hundreds of miles away. That's not an invasion. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: None of these reporters should still be working in this business. It's dereliction of duty. There should be a price to be paid there. Joining us now, how the media missed the story from the start purposely -- missed the story is Mollie Hemingway, senior editor from "The Federalist." Mollie, what are the chances of Jim Acosta apologizes and not only getting this wrong, but telling the president he was wrong. MOLLIE HEMINGWAY, SENIOR EDITOR, THE FEDERALIST: But it's really an amazing exchange to go back and look at. It looked bad at the time, the way he was pontificating and giving his opinion which was not based in fact. The way he was belligerent with that reporter. That was an embarrassment at the time. After this weekend, it is a complete and utter humiliation. And this is the guy who is sort of the mascot of the White House Press Corps. They have decided to make him the guy that they all rally behind. And he could not have been more wrong about the facts, but he's actually just doing what a lot of media have done. There have been so many false statements said about this caravan, whether it's that it's largely comprised of women and children or that these are valid asylum-seekers or that there is no criminal element or that they will never make it to the border or that they will never scale the border or that they are no threat to sovereignty and they are no threat to the United States. All of that was completely exploded this weekend and it would be nice to see the media react more honestly about that. Instead, they are doing what you pointed out in the first segment which is taking a picture of one woman and her children and making them -- INGRAHAM: Oh, I saw that coming a mile away. Didn't you see that a mile away? Once they got the photo of the woman wearing the tangled shirt, whatever that cartoon character was and you knew that was going to be it because that is a lazy man's way of reporting a story. Lazy, lazy, lazy. Do your job. Put your Trump bias in the backseat for five seconds and try to be honest about this story. I find it appalling. I got to play something for you Mollie that even you may not believe. This is Mike Lupica who is really good at writing about sports. He's now a political guy. This is what he said. Let's watch. I think we have the Mike Lupica. Do we have it? It's coming. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKE LUPICA, MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR: And I keep asking this question. When is the first guy from the caravan going to shoot up a synagogue on a Saturday morning? When is the first person from a caravan going to shoot up a dance club in southern California or a country music festival in Las Vegas? Every time there's another mass shooting in this country, one of my first reactions after I am struck again by the horror of the routiness in this country is please don't let it be an immigrant. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Please don't let it be an immigrant. Real quick, Mollie. HEMINGWAY: Look, human nature is the same across immigrant or nonimmigrant populations. What comments like that are doing are saying that you aren't allowed to have a conversation about rule of law, national sovereignty, borders. That's inappropriate. INGRAHAM: All right, Mollie Hemingway, thanks so much. We have a lot more to get to. This story is breaking as we speak tonight. Stay right there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (CROWD SHOUTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, as we noted in tonight's ANGLE, the left in the media often use this emotional imagery to tell you just one side of the story from the border. But what really happened when agents dispersed gas canisters into crowds of migrants trying to break through the southern border? For more, here's a report from Fox News Jeff Paul in Tijuana, Mexico. JEFF PAUL,FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well the scene outside the main migrant shelter is overwhelming. You have people walking in all sorts of different directions. Thousands still living inside, others now moving to the outside where they were living in tents. And despite all these crowds that you're seeing out here, things are relatively peaceful compared to what just happened the day before. U.S. Customs and Border Protection reporting that rocks were thrown at at least four agents. No injuries but as a result, teargas and pepper spray balls were used to get the crowd to disperse. There were also several arrests and others who just ran to safety looking for cover. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): When went to that side, it was when they started throwing teargas at us. And there were many children who fainted. Many young children fainted. My daughter also got gassed. Pregnant women and there are many men who also fainted. PAUL: There were arrests on both sides of the border both in Tijuana and in the United States. Seventy-nine people arrested in the United States for trying to cross the border illegally. Despite that showing of force from authorities on both sides of the border, many of the migrants out here remain hopeful that one day they will somehow still be able to gain access to the U.S., Laura. INGRAHAM: All right, Jeff, thanks. Now, what about the agents involved? Is anyone telling their stories? Well, imagine if a mass of humanity charge at you, wanting to enter your home. Maybe come live with you for a while, throwing rocks and waving another country's flag. Well, while the agents themselves aren't able to speak out at the moment, they are allowed to talk with their representatives. One joins us now to share what he has learned. Hector Garza is the National Border Patrol Council president and is with us tonight from San Antonio. Hector, what are the people on your team telling you on the ground? You just saw a report about what happened and another -- a very emotional woman who said they just started throwing teargas canisters at us. That's not actually what happened but that's what she said. What did they encounter? HECTOR GARZA, VICE PRESIDENT, NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL: Well, our agents were actually under attack. They were assaulted. These migrants were throwing rocks. They were throwing glass bottles. And they were also throwing other debris that was in the area. And as a matter fact, some of our agents were hit on their helmets with these rocks. And there were minor injuries. There was also damage to government vehicles and the windows were broken. So, this is an assault. This is an invasion on our agents, on our country. And our agents had to respond with a very low level of force, which is the teargas that was deployed. INGRAHAM: Now, we have heard from everyone from Mexican government officials to Guatemalan officials who said from the beginning that the use of women and children at the front of these lines, whether they are crossing the bridge into Mexico from Guada or breaking the border into Guatemala from Honduras, that this was done very deliberately with careful planning. Unfortunately, the children end up casualties, the ones who aren't trafficked, end up as casualties in all these or injured or traumatized. But they want to blame, Hector, President Trump because I guess the border should just be open and people should be able to come in 100 at a time and fill out a form and say I want asylum. GARZA: Well, these people think that they're going to do the same thing they did on the Guatemala-Mexico border. They are wrong. Our agents are properly trained. They are going to be using reasonable force. And something that they are reporting to us is that these migrants were using these children as human shields as they were launching rocks at our agents. So, they had no regard for human life. They did not care about the other migrants. They did not care about the kids. And our agents did a great job by using teargas to be able to disperse the crowd. Now, our agents could have been justified to use a higher level of force but they did not. They used a very low level of force and they were successful. They did a great job out there. INGRAHAM: But Hector, what if the numbers increase? What if they swell? GARZA: Well, we are going to have to keep using the same strategy. The good thing is we have the military and that's what President Trump did for us. We are going to have to deploy more resources to the area. But it is going to get out of control and that's why Congress needs to act and we have to make sure that we do build that wall so that we can avoid these types of confrontations because people will end up getting hurt. Now again, our agents are properly trained and they're going to do the best job that they can out there, but again, these caravans, they need to stop and we need to do our job and also Mexico needs to do their job as well in helping us on the southern border. INGRAHAM: They should never have been trucked up to the border. Many of them were trucked up. They should never have been allowed to cross New Mexico. There's a series of things that had to happen for this situation to result in the crisis that it is today. Hector, thank you very much. And please think the Border Patrol for us. They are doing incredible work under very difficult circumstances, and being maligned by everyone from Hollywood actors and actresses who themselves -- how many immigrants would a sponsor in their homes if they had to? And politicians and business types. So we really thank you so much. And by the way, those crashing our southern border, of course, are referred to in blanket terms, like they are migrants seeking a better life. They are asylum-seekers. They're would be refugees. But they wouldn't be criminals, right? No. Joining us now to explain is former immigration judge Art Arthur, currently resident fellow in law at the Center for Immigration Studies. Art, you have dealt with this issue. You and I have been talking about this now for months. And I'm actually sad to say that we predicted this, because it would have been great if this never happened, because people's lives are put in jeopardy. Our sovereignty is imperiled. And now we have the vilification of President Trump because the situation became the boiling pot that it is right now. ART ARTHUR, FORMER IMMIGRATION JUDGE: You see a variety of crimes that these individuals have committed. Entering the United States illegally is a violation of Eight United States code Section 1325. It's a misdemeanor, as Mr. Homan indicated before. Some of these individuals have entered the United States previously. That's a felony. Assault on a federal officer is a crime. It's a felony in and of itself. So we see a number of these individuals committing crimes. In addition, Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen indicated that there are 500 criminals and gang members that are included in this group of individuals. Quite frankly, I think that number is probably low, because the numbers that we have is only as good as the intelligence. INGRAHAM: Art, my other Border Patrol sources are telling me that 5,000 illegal immigrants a week, the whole caravan down there, a week are crossing other sectors. As everyone is focused on this, 5,000 coming in through Yuma, through Laredo, the Rio Grande. It's being swamped. ARTHUR: The RGV is completely overrun right now. INGRAHAM: What is the RGV again? Oh, Rio Grande Valley. ARTHUR: Rio Grande Valley. INGRAHAM: I am quick. Thank you. ARTHUR: The Rio Grande Valley is completely overrun right now. These individuals have gone to Tijuana probably because it's the Ninth Circuit and they have the best chance of getting relief and getting released there. But the fact is that we see a huge of migrants enter through Matamoros and Eagle Pass. So those sectors are also overrun by individuals. And again, the first act that they commit in the United States is a criminal one. INGRAHAM: And they have committed many crimes along the way. Other countries sovereignty, sometimes assaults on other countries border patrol. This is what Alisyn Camerata, who I have always liked, but she's on another network, this is her argument about the current crisis now and why what we are seeing is a sign that everything's working, we don't need a wall. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Shutting down the border worked, and it also proves that we don't need -- I think -- a border wall because the migrants made -- went out of their way to go to the Tijuana entrance because the rest of the border was considered too hazardous, too dangerous to cross. So they went extra hundreds of miles to the port of entry of Tijuana because they considered that the easiest. So in other words, the system is actually working. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Did some reporter -- was there a reporter and a control room whispering "say this"? She can't actually believe that. ARTHUR: The reason why the rest of the border is so dangerous is because it is so controlled by the drug cartels. And the drug cartels are getting their funding from exactly the same smugglers who are smuggling these individuals to the United States. We are supporting the drug cartels by allowing these individuals to be smuggled into our -- INGRAHAM: We just said the other sectors are being overwhelmed as we speak right now. ARTHUR: Absolutely. INGRAHAM: Every day of the week. So it's a sign it's working. I have to play one more thing. Tearjerker, tearjerker moments. Rick Wilson another network tonight. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RICK WILSON: This is not just the terrible threat of a little shoeless girl wearing a Hello Kitty backpack at the border. Oh, my God, whip out the teargas. But it's done deliberately and methodically and cruelly. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So Trump is doing this cruelly, focusing on the little girl with the Hello Kitty backpack. ARTHUR: Border Patrol agents are getting rocked along the border. I have been in a Border Patrol vehicle that got hit by cinder block, and I can tell you right now, Laura, it's the sort of thing that you really want to have a strong response to. We need to have a strong response so we can make sure that are agents are safe. And that's what the president's is attempting to do. INGRAHAM: You agree with me Congress has to act? The asylum loopholes have to be -- ARTHUR: And I have been saying that for a year, saying that for more than a year. INGRAHAM: And if they don't do that, we're going to have more of this? ARTHUR: Absolutely. INGRAHAM: All right, Art, thanks so much. And what is going on with the Mueller investigation? We haven't talked about that in a few weeks. A significant development involving a rejected plea deal earlier today may tell us a lot. All the answers you need are straight ahead. INGRAHAM: Some big developments in the Miller investigation tonight, including a plea deal gone awry and another that may have been violated. For details, we are joined by FOX's Trace Gallagher. What would we do without a Trace? That's what I say. Has anyone ever used that before, Trace? TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Nobody has. But I don't know what you'd do, Laura. But breaking tonight, we should note Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team has now submitted new court filings claiming forward Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort violated his plea agreement by lying to prosecutors and the FBI. Now, the special counsel didn't say what he lied about, only that he did so on a, quote, variety of subject matters. Manafort denies he lied. He was convicted in August on eight counts of bank and tax fraud. In September he agreed to cooperate with Mueller to avoid a second trial and for a possible reduced prison sentence. The government now wants Manafort sentenced immediately. Meantime ex-Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos reported to a medium security prison today in Wisconsin to begin serving his 14 day sentence for lying to the FBI about his interactions with Russian contacts. Papadopoulos claims in April of 2016 he was in the U.K. and was told by a professor with ties to Russia that the Russians had obtained thousands of Hillary Clinton emails. Remember, this was months before hacked emails from Clinton campaign chair John Podesta were posted on WikiLeaks. Then in August of 2016, Papadopoulos told an Australian diplomat the Russians had derogatory information on Hillary Clinton. The diplomat reportedly pass that info onto western intelligence. Papadopoulos now believes he was set up and is willing to testify before the Senate Intel Committee. And now Jerome Corsi, an associate of Trump confidante Roger Stone, says he is rejecting a plea deal from Robert Mueller's team. The special cause reportedly has evidence showing two months before John Podesta's hacked emails went public, Jerome Corsi knew WikiLeaks had them. And Mueller's team is examining whether Corsi passed that information along to Roger Stone. But Corsi says he did not have inside information from WikiLeaks. Instead he, quote, connected the dots, saying two months before the Podesta emails went public he logically deducted the Julian Assange had them. Mueller's investigators apparently not buying it. Laura? INGRAHAM: Trace, thanks so much. And joining me now is Sol Wisenberg, former deputy independent counsel in the Whitewater, Lewinsky investigation. Sol, we haven't seen you for a while, so I'm so excited to have you want. But why are you not hear? You are there. What does this tell you that Mueller is focusing so much of his effort now on someone like old Jerome Corsi. He is in his 70s. He's done a lot of writing, colorful writing, interesting writing. A lot of people really like his stuff. Is he grasping at straws here? What is this? SOLOMON WISENBERG, PARTNER, NELSON-MULLINS: Well, from the very beginning of his tenure, Mueller has taken the position that if you lie to us, and obviously it's his view as to whether or not they lied, but if you lie to us, we are going to prosecute you. And that's really something that a lot of aggressive special counsels have done. Patrick Fitzgerald did it in the Scooter Libby case. And the reason they do this is they are here for a limited time. They know they're going to get criticized publicly, like they all are, like Starr was, like Archie Cox, and like Mueller has been. And so they want to strike terror into the hearts of the people that they deal with and they question. And Mueller has been very consistent in this regard, if you lie to us, we will charge you. So I don't know -- INGRAHAM: Hold on, Sol. This is what prosecutors -- and I am speaking as an old defense counsel, but prosecutors have a big weapon in their arsenal. And the weapon is you talk to us. If you don't, we are turning the screws. We are going to turn them and turn them and turn them, and it's going to be so painful that you're going to say something. And I am not saying all prosecutors are bad. I am not saying that. But I want to play when Jerome Corsi said about this, because he's not willing to take a plea deal. He said I'm not going to lie, basically, to take some lousy plea deal. If I have to die in jail, I will. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEROME CORSI: The American people have got to understand we have a criminal Department of Justice. And they are taking citizens. I've never committed a crime in my life. I am 72 years old. I can die in prison, but I will not lie to say I didn't tell the truth to the special counsel. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Honestly, I believe him. I don't know. Just like you know you just have a certain radar about people and things. I don't know. WISENBERG: Let me tell you a little secret. Let me tell you a little secret about Jerome Corsi and about Papadopoulos. Neither of these guys had to talk to Mueller at all. Mueller couldn't have turned any screws on either one of these guys. They could have said, guess what, we decline to talk to you, and if Mueller had called them to the grand jury, they could have said, guess what, we are not -- we are going to plead the Fifth Amendment, because these guys were not like major players than drug administration who might be embarrassed if it came out that they took the Fifth Amendment. So these guys, I don't know what their problem is, why they felt like they had to talk to the government in the first place. INGRAHAM: They were corroborating. Sol, they don't have anything to hide. Maybe it was stupid. Maybe you're saying it is stupid. Shouldn't talk to Mueller. They get Andrew Weissmann, Mr. Legal Eagle, and all the other people in there who hate Trump. So I get it. I wouldn't have advised my client to talk to them. But I think they feel like, Jerome Corsi, I didn't do anything. I am a journalist writing stuff, and I didn't do anything. But again, you can indict a ham sandwich. WISENBERG: You can. And the bottom line, as you know, we don't know if they had anything to hide or not. But I'll tell you one thing about Corsi, he was apparently trying to work on some kind of deal where he would not plead to intentionally lying. Really, the only way you can be successfully plead guilty to a crime of a false statement is if you did it intentionally. If you didn't do it intentionally, he shouldn't plead guilty. INGRAHAM: All right, so Dershowitz now, Dershowitz has been reviled by the left or defending Trump. All the invitations to the parties dried up at Martha's Vineyard. Apparently, nobody would come to his party. WISENBERG: So sad. INGRAHAM: The Martha's Vineyard crowd just turned the cold shoulder. I was very distressed by it for him, actually. WISENBERG: They haven't invited me to any of their parties either. They shut me out, too. INGRAHAM: Sol, what people don't know about you is you are so much fun. WISENBERG: That's right. INGRAHAM: So the fact that they didn't -- it's very upsetting to me that you wouldn't be invited. But this is what he said yesterday that set the internet on fire. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALAN DERSHOWITZ, HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR EMERITUS: And I think the report is going to be devastating to the president, and I know that the president's team is already working on a response to the report. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So does he get a leak from Mueller, or is it just rank speculation? WISENBERG: I think it's rank speculation. On the other hand, it's pretty clear that there is no love lost between Mueller's prosecutors and the president and his people. And so it wouldn't be surprising to me if a report is hard- hitting. Here is a key thing people haven't focused on yet. Granted, it's only been a couple hours since Mueller made his filing about Manafort, saying that Manafort lied and committed new crimes. Mueller said, let's proceed to sentencing, and Manafort's attorney agrees with him, and Mueller said, we're going to be filing something, judge, we're going to be filing a sentencing memo with you that details, and I'm quoting Mueller here, that details all of the various lies and crimes that Manafort has committed. So I think Mueller will take this opportunity. He is very limited in what he can say, unless he is doing it in a court filing. So I think you're going to see a document from Mueller in the Manafort case that won't be a speaking indictment. It will be a speaking sentencing memo. INGRAHAM: But a lot of this stuff has stuff to do with his old business dealings going back several years, predating the campaign. I don't know about that. WISENBERG: Right, but Laura -- you are right, but I don't think that's what they're they have been asking him about, and I don't think that's what they are going to say he's been fibbing about. And who knows whether he is or not. Another interesting thing, Mueller does not have the power to say you lied and the deal is off. The court will make that decision, and that's an important distinction. INGRAHAM: Sol, it's good to see you back. We have missed you terribly. WISENBERG: Great to be back. INGRAHAM: All right, you take care. Have a good night. WISENBERG: Great to be back. INGRAHAM: Among the potential list of 2020 Trump challengers includes some hilarious sideshows. Schlapp and Hahn debate the never-ending parade of also-rans, even some from the right. That's next. INGRAHAM: Now, if you can believe it, the race for 2020, I cannot believe I am already saying this, is already off and running. And the latest batch of contenders, well, may not have the president's sweating too much. From the right corner, we have two contenders who don't have much of a constituency in their party but still think they can challenge the president for the nomination. First, we have Jeff, always a Flake. His approval among Republican voters in his own state was a whopping 20 percent, forcing him into early retirement. Still, he recently told "Politico" that he has not ruled out a run for the presidency. And then there is old John Kasich, the man who seemingly lives in an MSNBC greenroom. Great food there. And he didn't even show up at his own party's presidential convention when it was held in his state where he was governor. But he thinks he can challenge Trump and is very seriously considering it. From the left, Robert Francis O'Rourke, the darling of the Democratic Party, couldn't win his Senate race in Texas but he is now saying a presidential run could be in the cards. And then there is Mr. Impeachment himself, Tom Steyer. Seeing Trump's success, he thinks basically any billionaire can run for president. Bloomberg is going to do it. Last week, Steyer released his five rights for Americans that looked an awful like a presidential platform. Here to debate whether any of these challengers should keep the president up at night, Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union, and Chris Hahn, radio host and former aide to Chuck Schumer. All right, Matt, should the president be worried? When I think of John Kasich versus Trump, I get palpitations. It's so exciting, first of all, as a thought of a debate between the two of them. MATT SCHLAPP, CONTRIBUTOR, "THE HILL": Maybe John Kasich could actually keep it close in Ohio, at least. That would really be a good step for him. Usually for Republican presidents, if they face a primary challenge, it is toast in November. I think with President Trump it's exactly the opposite. I actually think if he is a guy like Flake, I assume Flake runs as a Republican, I'm not sure, Flake or Kasich runs in the primary, I think it emboldens him. He likes a foil. It will make him stronger and better. And as far as all these Democrats are concerned, the fact that it's so big with so many interesting characters, I actually think it plays to his advantage as well. INGRAHAM: Chris, first of all, I hope you had a nice Thanksgiving. Nice to see you. CHRIS HAHN, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: I did. I did. INGRAHAM: Did you cook? Are you one of those progressive men and you cook and you wear the apron and all that? HAHN: I don't wear an apron, but I did cook. But the butcher did most of the work brining the turkey. INGRAHAM: Very cool. I'm totally kidding. I love all -- cooking is a family affair. Beto O'Rourke now, he's a contender. His wife said a pleasant thought, but she's leaving open the possibility of being OK with it. "Newsweek" actually had an article today, Chris, the title of which was Beto O'Rourke -- If Beto O'Rourke was president, here's how he would handle the migrant caravan. That's the title of a "Newsweek" w-e-a-k piece. SCHLAPP: I thought there wasn't a caravan. INGRAHAM: Thoughts, thoughts, Chris? HAHN: I remember laughing very hard when a guy named Donald Trump got into the race, saying he'll never win the nomination, and if he wins the nomination, the Democrats will win 40 states. So be careful what you wish for. Beto O'Rourke, if he closes the gap the way he did in Texas and increases that margin in other states, he will get over 300 electoral votes easily, and maybe even closer to 340. He is an inspiring guy, and we will see what happens. There's going to be a large field. There was a large field -- INGRAHAM: Why is he inspiring? Wait a second. OK, Obama did better than he did in rural Texas, if my memory serves me correct. And why is he inspiring? He's cute, but why is he inspiring? What's inspiring about him? HAHN: The guy reminded me a lot of Donald Trump. He was always trailing the poles, but yet everywhere he went, thousands of people showed up to see him. There is something there, and I think if the guy runs for president, he's going to be a serious contender. I don't know that he'll be the nominee, but he will absolutely be a serious contender in the Democratic primary. And a big field didn't hurt the Republicans in 2016, it won't hurt Democrats in 2020. And frankly, if I was a Republican, I would throw my name out there just in case the president decides he doesn't want to run or doesn't run for other reasons. INGRAHAM: For the speaking fees alone, you'd throw your name into the hat, right, Schlapp? SCHLAPP: Totally. I agree with Chris. I think the big field is not a bad thing. INGRAHAM: No, I don't think it matters. It doesn't matter. SCHLAPP: Because they don't really have an obvious top tier candidate. It's a big smorgasbord. And they need to have one of their big leftwing blowout arguments and figure out who's going to come out of it. INGRAHAM: But John Kasich, he just keeps showing up. It's like a bad toothache that just keeps coming back. SCHLAPP: The thing with John Kasich -- INGRAHAM: One word. SCHLAPP: Not going to win. Never Kasich. INGRAHAM: Never Kasich. Guys, thanks so much. Tonight's last bite takes you to the NFL. Stay there. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. If you've ever watched a Bill Belichick press conference, this from Denver Broncos linebacker Von Miller will ring true. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) VON MILLER, DENVER BRONCOS LINEBACKER: It was a great team win. On to Cincinnati. We played great defense. We played great offense, great team win. So on to Cincinnati. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you channeling Bill Belichick? MILLER: We had a great win today. Great team win. I'm sure we had an incredible day, but it's on to Cincinnati. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's what they look like, you know, when they win. Isn't that great? I love his glasses too. All right. That's all the time we have tonight. Ed Henry is in for Shannon Bream and he takes it from here. Ed, it's on to Cincinnati. Load-Date: November 27, 2018 End of Document Conditions at the Southern Border Intensifies as the Mayor of Tijuana Declares a Humanitarian Crisis as President Trump Threatens to Close the Border; Liberal Media Keeps on Downplaying the Threat of the Migrant Caravan; Rare Rebuke from Chief Justice Roberts and President Trump Pushes Back on Claims of Bias from the Ninth Circuit Court; Donald Trump Discusses Possible Government Shutdown over Border Wall Funding; New Pew Poll Ranks Ways Americans Find Meaning; Shoppers Talk about Black Friday Sales Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 23, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8447 words Byline: Raymond Arroyo, Kevin Corke Guests: Brandon Judd, Mark Krikorian, Saman Nasseri, Donald Bramer, Joel Rubin, Joe diGenova, David Katz, Jonna Spilbor; David Burstein, Audrea Decker, Tony Perkins, Hemant Mehta, Mike Lindell Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) JEANINE PIRRO, FOX NEWS HOST: I'll be joined by Michelle Malkin, Steve Doocy. It's always a hoot. Sean Hannity will be back on Monday with another can't-miss show. Thanks for being with us. INGRAHAM ANGLE starts now. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS HOST: I'm Raymond Arroyo sitting in for Laura Ingraham on this special edition of THE INGRAHAM ANGLE live from New York City tonight. President Trump is doubling down on conflict and continuity in the final weeks of 2018, laying down the gauntlet over border enforcement. We'll explore his unprecedented feud with Chief Justice John Roberts and why Mr. Trump may have good reason to be upset with the politicized courts. Plus, God is coming up short with Americans this year. We'll examine a new survey that reveals they are finding meaning in other places, some good and others, well. And I hit the streets on this Black Friday to see how confident Americans are as we enter the biggest buying season of the year. Then, in an exclusive INGRAHAM ANGLE -- well, in an INGRAHAM ANGLE exclusive, Mike Lyndell, the "my pillow" guy is here to explain why he is not letting critics scare him from his passion projects, including a new movie which will tell us about tonight. But first, the crisis at the border is getting worse by the day as thousands of illegals immigrants gather in Tijuana, Mexico planning their next move, which according to reports includes a possible human stampede. This as police arrest nearly three dozen migrants on drugs and drunkenness charges. The Tijuana mayor says his town is in the throws (ph) of a humanitarian crisis. He declared, "They have categorically omitted and not complied with their legal obligations. So we're now asking international and humanitarian aid groups to bring -- come in and carry out humanitarian assistance." At the same time, a group of 150 migrants from that massive caravan stormed the border waving a white flag and demanding better conditions claiming they don't have adequate food and housing. I think they forget they are the ones who chose to make the illegal journey, but never mind that. Tijuana continues to struggle to accommodate the estimated 5,000 migrants spending roughly $30,000 a day to house and care for them. But President Trump is not mincing words about what will happen if that caravan comes to the U.S. threatening to close the border completely. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If we find that it's uncontrollable, Josh, if we find that it gets to a level where we are going to lose control or people are going to start getting hurt, we will close entry into the country for a period of time until we can get it under control. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You mean the entire border? TRUMP: The whole border. I mean, the whole border. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: The strong stand comes just days after what was described as a fiery meeting in the West Wing. That meeting resulted in the White House authorizing thousands of troops at the U.S. border, giving them the ability to use force if necessary to protect border agents. That would allow Secretary of State James Mattis to order those thousands of troops to do just that, protect border agents. The Department of Homeland Security says there are 500 known criminals in that caravan, 500, headed to the U.S. At least that's what they know of at this moment. The Mexican ambassador to the U.S., Geronimo Gutierrez is also concerned about violence telling the "Washington Examiner," "We share the opinion that there are people that have criminal backgrounds." Yet the media is still trying to down play the threat. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) ALI VELSHI, MSNBC HOST: There's no evidence, no one in these caravans that has suggested that there is some sort of attack or any of that sort of thing. This is sort of the president's continued bluster on this one. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There's no indication that anyone is funded by terrorist group or is really coming in with some sort of plan to cause harm against the United States. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I, as a national security official, would want to focus on the actual threats and not these invented threats of caravans over a thousand miles away. (END VIDEO CLIPS) ARROYO: Joining me now is Brandon Judd. He is the president of the National Border Patrol Union, Mark Krikorian, executive director of The Center for Immigration Studies and Saman Nasseri, an immigration attorney and activist. Brandon, I want to start with you. You were part of that White House meeting that ended with authorization of force along the border. Is this all an invented threat at the border in your estimation as many in the media are now saying? BRANDON JUDD, PRESIDENT, NATIONAL BORDER PATROL UNION: No, absolutely not. All you have to do is look at the number of people that are gathering in Tijuana that are waiting to come across the border. And these threats that they're going to storm the ports of entry, it's an obvious sign that they do not care about our laws, that they're going to do what they need to do for their own benefit instead of doing it in a legal manner. Again, if you look -- when I was in that meeting, what I saw is I saw an unwavering determination to secure the border for the American public, for the safety of the American public, and we appreciate that and appreciate that determination that the president has. ARROYO: Saman, your reaction. I mean, look, this is the head of the Border Union. He knows what's going on there given what his members are feeding back to them. Your reaction? SAMAN NASSERI, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: And I think that the conversation shouldn't be so much about the caravan but I think the caravan sheds light more on the fact that our immigration system is truly broken. The fact that this is what's considered a real threat is 5,000 people coming to the border, seeking asylum. Why is that -- why is they the issue? Why isn't the system the issue, because these people haven't stampeded. They haven't rushed the border. They are not carrying weapons with them. No one has seen them try to hurt anybody. So why are we making the people escaping their problems the issue? Why don't we try to criticize the actual immigration system and fix that problem? ARROYO: Well, let's hold it there a minute, Saman. I mean, there are abuses of the asylum system going on. Asylum is when you are under persecution not just because I'd like a better job and a nicer neighborhood, right? Mark Krikorian your reaction. MARK KRIKORIAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, CENTER FOR IMMIGRATION STUDIES: Well, that's exactly right. I mean, I'd say that the broader system is the problem and the system is we have asylum rules that incentivize people to make these bogus asylum claims to essentially use asylum as a strategy for illegal immigration because none of these people has any realistic expectation of actually getting political asylum at the end of the day. They're doing this to apply for asylum as a way of getting pass the border and then they're home free. This has been going on since the Obama administration really kind of incentivized it and, you know, we're still dealing with the fallout from it that's why we have this caravan and that's why there are other caravans behind them that are trying to do the same thing. ARROYO: I want to roll this tape. This is Kirstjen Nielsen, the Homeland Security chief along the border. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KIRSTJEN NIELSEN, SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY: The reality is that there are currently over 6,200 individuals camped out south of the U.S. border in Tijuana today as I stand here. In Mexicali, there are more than 3,000 caravan members. These two groups combined with other caravans making their way through the northern triangle in Mexico will result in approximately 8,000 to 10,000 migrants amassing along our southern border. The crisis is real and it is just on the other side of this wall. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Your reaction. I want to go to Brandon Judd. JUDD: Well, again, if you look at this, this is not about legal immigration. This is about illegal immigration. If those people are not -- they're not going to wait until they go through the ports of entry. They are going to cross the border illegally. And the first act that they are going to make when they come to the United States is an illegal act. That should make everybody a little bit concerned about what the motives are. ARROYO: What about the criminal element here that's being reported? They claim they have 500 criminals as part of these caravans. Saman, does that mean nothing to you? We should just open up. We let them come in under the asylum laws? NASSERI: No, and I think that's the wrong characterization of the argument. And I don't think -- these people aren't coming to the point of entry or crossing illegally. ARROYO: That's not a characterization, Saman. It's not a characterization at all. NASSERI: It is. It is a characterization because there's no proof. ARROYO: No, because Homeland Security is telling -- NASSERI: There's no evidence of that. ARROYO: Right. No. This is what they're saying. NASSERI: There is no evidence of that. ARROYO: So Kirstjen Nielsen is lying? NASSERI: And the Department of Homeland Security has issued a memo. Well, the Department of Homeland Security already issued a memo saying hey, we need to work with Mexico to try to vet these people in Mexico, keep them in Mexico, go through the asylum process there and then take it on a case by case basis and see who qualifies, see who doesn't pass into the port of entry. There's absolutely no evidence or no proof that these guys are going to show up to the port of entry, bum rush the border and run through and become "illegal immigrants." They're coming to the border seeking asylum. And it is unfair to say that all of them don't have a plausible case because some of them really do probably have a very plausible case. And unfortunately they get washed up with the ones that just come here because they want a better job. But the truth is, there are a handful of them are good few dozen. I would say even a few hundred and they have a good case that are living in bad conditions that have seen people get murdered, that have had family members gets murdered. I see them -- I turn away a dozen people from my office who I say I can't help you, you don't have a case. But every once in a while someone with this situation comes in and has a good case. ARROYO: There's no doubt the asylum laws need to be re-visited but perhaps we've not been looking at them in the right way and I think, you know, we can't just have -- my father waited a year in line before he even had his papers recognized. Then he came into the country with a sponsor and then he served in the military before becoming a citizen. There has to be an orderly process. Thank you, gentlemen, all for your contributions. Here now to explore whether the president has the constitutional authority to use U.S. troops to protect the border on American soil, the border agents, we're joined by Donald Bramer. He is a former intelligence officer and Iraq veteran and Joel Rubin, former Obama deputy Secretary of State. Joel, I want to start with you. Do you believe the president was wrong to send the troops to the border because of the unclear mission? But isn't protecting the southern border and enforcing standing immigration laws mission enough? JOEL RUBIN, FORMER OBAMA DEPUTY SECRETARY OF STATE: Well, Ray, there is no mission. There's no military mission here. There is no clarity about the end point, what the objectives will be for the soldiers. And really, even if there's a technical ability of the president to send the troops there, it's a bad judgment. This president has a habit of using our troops as political props and that was the intent for this prior to the mid-term elections to turn out the vote. And really, these troops are doing nothing there. They are sitting, they are waiting. They are doing support. We have civilian enforcement that can do the job. We don't need to have our troops at the border. ARROYO: Donald, are you concerned about this so-called human stampede that has been threatened? Is that a reality and is that similar to what we saw in the summer when the border was under such pressure? DONALD BRAMER, FORMER INTELLIGENCE OFFICER: Well, this stampede if you will is a very real reality and a lot of these folks that are coming to our border are known criminals and we've already found cases of weapons among them. And you know, even in Tijuana, they are talking about disorderly conduct, drunkenness. These are not the type of people that we want in the United States. You know, I applaud the president and maybe all of his tactics aren't always the best but we have a right to protect our borders. ARROYO: Donald, I want to play something for you and Joel. This is Senator Kamala Harris. She said this the other day. I want to get your reaction. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: These folks who are being deployed there, they're going to leave -- they have left their families. They will not be home looks like for Thanksgiving and of because they are needed to be some demonstration for the T.V. cameras based on a political agenda instead of what is a national security threat. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Donald, does the president have the authority to deploy troops in this way. There is that act, the Posse Comitatus Act that forbids using the military to enforce domestic law. Does that apply here? BRAMER: Well, these soldiers and forces, they're not law enforcement officials., but he does have the right to deploy them because it is his right as commander-in-chief to support this country, whether it's in humanitarian aid or supporting our borders. And this something that's, you know, been present before. You know, President Nixon did it. President Reagan did it. President Bush did it and President Obama did it. It's been done before. It is his right and he has to protect this country. ARROYO: Joel, your reaction. RUBIN: Well, I really believe that we could find the $100 million that we spend on sending the troops there. Better uses for that money. We could be sending it to the countries to help stabilize them so people don't leave -- ARROYO: You don't believe there's a national security (inaudible)? RUBIN: I believe that our civilian agents from DHS are capable of handing this and I don't believe that we need to have troops at the border now being authorized to shoot at a caravan of individuals who there are some unruly ones where by in large the overwhelming majority of women and children waiting in camps to go through an asylum process. ARROYO: Well, it's not all women and children or you wouldn't have the 34 arrests, (inaudible) possession -- RUBIN: The overwhelming majority are though. ARROYO: Well, you've got people with (inaudible) possessions, they are carrying weapons. They're being arrested now by the Tijuana government. RUBIN: And the civilian police can handle that as they should in the orderly process or the process that is in place is working and it should work. We don't need to have military troops there to enforce the process that is already being executed properly. ARROYO: Donald, your thoughts? Do we need those troops or not or is Trump just playing fast and loose here? BRAMER: No, I do think we need the troops. You know, right now, CBP is 80 percent undermanned right now. And if only for a short period of these troops can support them to do the logistics things so that the CBP officers can do their job, I mean that's important. If they're observing and they're providing support, then let them do their jobs so that CBP can actually perform what they're hired to do. ARROYO: Gentlemen, I'll give each of you a shot at this. Should the president close the border down? Does he have the authority to do so? Donald you first then Joel, very quickly, 10 seconds each. BRAMER: Whether or not he should or should not, that remains a question as we look forward to the caravan as it moves forward. Does he have the authority? Absolutely. It's his right to defend this country, to defend our borders and protect the United States citizens. ARROYO: Joel, if he believes there's a national security threat, clearly he can close down the border. RUBIN: National security threat should always be dealt with, but it's an American value to allow people seeking asylum to come here to this country. We need to keep that border open for those people. ARROYO: Well, we let a million people in a year as citizens. I think that shows the welcoming spirit of American. Thank you, gentlemen. President Trump's spat with the Ninth Court of Appeals intensifies as he renews his claim of bias and he's taking some heat from within his own circle. The story, next. Stay there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: The Ninth Circuit -- everybody knows that it is totally out of control. What they're doing, what they're saying, the opinions are very unfair to law enforcement. They are very unfair to our military. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Welcome back to the special edition of THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. As we look at the president's conflict and continuity in the final weeks of 2018. And he's not backing down in his war of words with Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts and escalating the feud with the liberal Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which just ruled against his administration's asylum policy. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We got a lot of bad court decisions from the Ninth Circuit, which has become a big thorn in our side. But it's a terrible thing when judges take over your protective services, when they tell you how to protect your border. It's a disgrace. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Does President Trump's dispute with Roberts and the Ninth Circuit show any signs of resolution or is this just the beginning? White House correspondent Kevin Corke takes us through the last 48 hours from Palm Beach where he's covering the president's Thanksgiving vacation. Kevin? KEVIN CORKE, FOX NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Raymond, good evening. This actually, this back and forth stems from the president's comments about Judge Jon Tigar's nationwide injunction to effectively stop the Trump administration's new asylum policies. And you and I have talked about this on a number of occasions where you have this lower level judge at the federal level and an Obama-appointee making a ruling to thwart the Trump administration, forcing it to go through the course before that policy takes effect. Now, the president called this judge and Obama judge, which is why the Chief Justice weighed in. He said, "We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges, or Clinton judges. What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. That independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for." However, given the Ninth Circuit's well-earned reputation for being let's just say a progressive and for frequently ruling against the president and his policies, well, he said it's high time someone called them out for their judicial activism. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We're getting some terrible decisions from the Ninth Circuit as usual. I don't know if we ever had a victory in the Ninth Circuit. We have to appeal it, appeal it. There is a vast number of their decisions get overturned generally speaking and it's a shame. It's a shame. It's a disgrace, frankly. Essentially they are legislating and it's not right. And it's been going on like that for a long time. We have to use some common sense. The Ninth Circuit, everybody knows that it's totally out of control. (END VIDEO CLIP) CORKE: Meanwhile, online, Chuck Grassley said this. He said, "Chief Justice Roberts rebuked Trump for a comment he made about a judge's decision on asylum. I don't recall the chief attacking Obama when that president rebuked Justice Alito during a State of the Union." Clearly a snapshot my friend of the intensity of this debate, especially as it involves both this administration and the Ninth Circuit. Raymond? ARROYO: Thank you, Kevin. Joining me now are three legal experts, former U.S. attorney Joe diGenova, former federal prosecutor David Katz and criminal defense attorney, Jonna Spilbor. Thank you all for being here. Joe, I want to start with you. Your reaction to Chief Justice Roberts scolding the president and insisting that there are no partisan judges, Joe. JOE DIGENIVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: Well, I think the chief justice's comments were blatantly inappropriate. He injected himself into a political discussion about the effect of the court. He never should have done that particularly after the debacle of the Kavanaugh hearing where everyone was trying to do its best after that to remove the Supreme Court from the political arena. And the chief justice arrogantly, and I underscore arrogantly stepped into it. It is a major mistake by the chief justice and of course, you notice he has been quiet now because he realizes that he did make a terrible, terrible mistake. Whatever he may have thought of the president's remarks, it's not his responsibility to rebuke the president of the United States, which is exactly what he was doing. And after sitting there in January of 2010 and listening to President Obama rebuke him and the rest of the Supreme Court for their decision in Citizens United when he said absolutely nothing to defend the integrity and independence of the court, for him to get involved in this was absolutely abysmal judgment. ARROYO: Joe, I want to show people that moment. You referenced it. Senator Grassley as well. I want to take everybody back. This is 2010 when then President Obama publicly called out the Supreme Court's Citizens United ruling and wrongly stated a few facts. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: With all due deference to separation of powers, last week the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the flood gates for special interests, including foreign corporations to spend without limit in our election. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Alito was sitting there going, no, no, no -- mouthing no. Why do you think he said nothing then, Joe diGenova, and he's speaking out now? Why this moment? DIGENOVA: It's very, very simple. President Obama was a Democrat and President Trump is a Republican. John Roberts' judgment in this is so abysmal, so bad, so apparently political in its motivation, so opportunistic. It really is appalling. I'm embarrassed for the court. I feel very sorry for the other members of the court. And I really think the chief justice has made a major, major mistake with regards to it. Talk about he himself now has undercut the independence of the court by becoming involved in a political discussion. It's a very sad day for the court. ARROYO: Thank you, Joe. Jonna, I want your reaction. Do you agree with Joe diGenova? Do you think that this is raising the political temperature rather than lowering it? JONNA SPILBOR, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: A hundred percent. And I want to know, first of all, the chief justice is talking out of school because yes, we do have Obama judges and Clinton judges and Trump judges. Where was the chief justice when Ruth Bader Ginsberg was calling the president a fake, a phony and openly criticizing him? Where was the rhetoric then? It did not exist. ARROYO: David, your thoughts. DAVID KATZ, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTRO: Well, Chief Justice Roberts is one of the most admired public servants in America and that's regardless of party. Someone had to come to the defense of the judiciary. We have an independent judiciary which is the crown jewel of our rule of law and our (inaudible) in this country. ARROYO: This is not the first time a president has called out the Supreme Court. Jefferson, Madison were upset with their appointees. FDR was going to pack the courts. What is different this time with the president disagreeing with the justice? I guess the justice is speaking back. KATZ: Well, I guess President Lincoln actually increased the court to 10. They don't call that court packing but President Lincoln increased the Supreme Court to 10 so its come and it's gone. But I think the important thing to remember here is that that judge in San Francisco cannot speak up for himself or his decisions. Someone had to speak up for the third branch of government, the independent judiciary. And that's what Chief Justice Roberts did. He did it very well and he wasn't arrogant at all. ARROYO: Jonna, I want to put something up on the screen. Chuck Schumer came out today with a tweet. He is supporting, surprise, surprise -- he is supporting John Roberts. He writes, "I don't agree very often with Chief Justice Roberts, especially his partisan decisions which seem highly political on Citizens United, Janus, and Shelby. But I am thankful today that he almost alone among Republicans stood up to President Trump for an independent judiciary." Is that what his role is, to stand up to the president? SPILBOR: No. Absolutely not. And if we're going to have an independent judiciary, if we're going to be one big happy nonpolitical family, then the chief justice should not have said a word. He almost contradicted himself by the fact that he said what he said. ARROYO: David, you really don't think we have activist judges anywhere? KATZ: You know, I'm a defense attorney now. I go to court -- ARROYO: You worked for the Reagan administration. KATZ: Right. ARROYO: You don't think there are any activist judges? Look, just the other day, I pulled this. Judge Carlton Reeds struck down the 15-day abortion ban in Mississippi. He overruled the entire legislature there, the entire states' will and he said men were all involved in this. Well, who created Roe v. Wade? Nine guys, right? KATZ: We have an appeals system in this country. If you don't like the district court or the trial court's decision, you go to the Court of Appeals. You know what else? This decision wasn't even from the Ninth Circuit. It was from a district court judge. It hasn't even been to the Ninth Circuit. The Ninth Circuit can be a very mixed bag. Not all the decisions are the -- ARROYO: Should it be broken up? Trump wants to break it up. KATZ: No, it should not be. SPILBOR: I think it would be a great idea because this is travel ban deja vu all over again. Trump is going to succeed when this goes on up. KATZ: Very good. What a -- ARROYO: Thank you both for being here. And thank you, Joe diGenova, for your insights. Up next, President Trump says he will do whatever it takes to get his border wall built, even if it means shutting down the government. And remember when Michael Moore said people needed to literally put their bodies on the line to stop the president? I know it's hard to believe, but now he's hit a new low. We'll explain, next. Stay there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL MOORE, FILMMAKER: Of course that's hard. You can't build a bridge to a racist or misogynist. You know, they have to be shunned. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Welcome back to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. I'm Raymond Arroyo sitting in for Laura. President Trump is gearing up for a fight with Congress over funding for a new border wall. With the migrant caravan knocking on our southern border, the president believes we need the wall now, and it couldn't be more apparent or urgent. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It could happen, over border security. The wall is just a part of border security, a very important part, probably the most important part. But could there be a shut down? There certainly could. And it will be about border security, of which the wall is a part. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Is a shutdown looming? Here to react is David Burstein, CEO and founder of Run for America and a progressive commentator, and Audrea Decker, she's a conservative commentator. Let me start with you, Audrea. Does the president have enough support in the GOP to get his border wall funding? He couldn't get it last time. ANDREA DECKER, CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR: Right. Well, regardless of if he has the support or not, his job is to enforce the laws that are on the books. And the fact is, is we have borders in our nation. People can't just decide they're going to cross over without permission. And we need a system in America that is fair to the people waiting in line and to also the people that want to come over. So absolutely, he needs to do whatever he needs to, to secure the border. ARROYO: Yes, but the Republicans haven't joined him. There's disunity in the caucus. I want to play something for you, David. This is Congressman Pete King talking about this government shutdown and who it might hurt. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. PETE KING, (R) NEW YORK: I strongly support funding the border wall, but I don't believe we should shut the government down. We have an obligation to keep the government going. And also, politically, this would play into the hands of the Democrats. We'll get blamed for shutting down the government. The wall won't be built, the wall won't be funded, and we'll be blamed for it. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Won't this hurt Republicans? DAVID BURSTEIN, CEO AND CO-FOUNDER, RUN FOR AMERICA: I think if I were the Republicans, I would be worried about that, because the reality is people just voted for change. And what they really voted for is people voted for action. Shutting down the government is not what people are looking for. And being president, there's a responsibility to get one thing done at a time. And he may not get this priority on this go round. ARROYO: It didn't hurt when Newt Gingrich did it years go. I was covering the Capitol Hill then, and they turned out pretty well. What is Paul Ryan? Why not in his final act as speaker and with this caucus, many of these people are leaving, why not support the president in this promise he made to the American people that got many of them elected the last time? DECKER: That's the thing is that the Republicans should be fighting for this, and they're not. And I think part of the reason why Trump has brought this up is that he's a great negotiator. And we know that sometimes has to push the Republican Party to take action on important issues. And this is an issue that President Trump ran on and got elected on. So the American people do want to see this happen. ARROYO: It's almost Christmas time. Let me run through the GOP lame duck wish list. These are the things they hope to accomplish. They have a lot to get done. They want to get a 10 percent tax cut. They want building the border wall, stopping birthright citizenship, cutting off U.S. and Central American nations aid, and protecting preexisting conditions. Will any of that get accomplished? David? BURSTEIN: Well, I think maybe one or two of these things will get accomplished. It seems that people suddenly find their political energy in the last days when they suddenly -- after their constituents had told them they no longer want them there. ARROYO: I know, but they 15 legislative days left for the Senate, 12 in the House. That's not an eternity. BURSTEIN: I have to say it's amazing that there seemed to be three months where nobody could find anything to do except campaign, and now in the last 15 days of the year suddenly there's a list of priorities. ARROYO: We'll get it all done. OK, the Democrats also have a lot to get to, Audrea. Here's what they're planning. They have put forward their own little wish list. It includes looking at the President Trump's tax returns, his family business, Trump's dealing with Russia, the Stormy Daniels payment, and the James Comey firing, and there are more things coming about Ivanka's phone calls. This could go on for another 10 minutes. Your thoughts on what this will mean. Are we basically talking about gridlock? DECKER: Yes. And I don't think this is beneficial for the Democratic Party either. Let's take about the issues that Americans care about. Let's have a real discussion about the issues and the principles and let's see where we fall on them. Let's have deals negotiated in Congress on behalf of the American people. Stop going after Trump. Put out your solutions and your policy ideas. ARROYO: I'm going to turn to 2020. The Democratic contenders are beginning to emerge. As you know, former vice president Joe Biden is at the top of the list, 33 percent of Democrats like him according to that last CNN poll. And there you can see the huge field. It looks like the Brady Bunch on Viagra. They're just exploded. Your thoughts, who is going to take the lead here, David? Who's your man? BURSTEIN: This is going to be a very, very tough race. If I had to look at anyone on that sheet, I saw a picture of the Rock. And so I think if the Rock runs, he's probably got the best shot. But I do think really this is a crowded field. And Democrats would actually do well to consolidate early and not let this be a repeat of 2016 where they end up in a situation with one person who is able to be the loudest like President Trump was -- ARROYO: People heard him. BURSTEIN: -- who is able to dominate everybody else -- ARROYO: And 46 percent of voters think President Trump will win again, 47 percent don't in that last CNN poll. Those are pretty good numbers. Who would you like to see the Dems run against Trump? DECKER: It's interesting. I think we should keep an eye on Senator Cory Booker and Senator Harris, those are two interesting people, or O'Rourke out of Texas, raised a lot of money. Interesting to keep an eye on him. But this election is going to come down to values. I think it's going to be about values. President Trump proved that. People voted for Trump, not for his personality, but for the values. And so I think both sides are pretty divided right now. I think it's going to come down to that. ARROYO: I think it's going to become about competency and safety given what we're doing, and how this economy ends up. Before we go, I have to get your reactions to this. Liberal filmmaker Michael Moore who just this summer called on people to put their bodies on the line to stop the president, he is now calling for the shunning of Trump supporters. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL MOORE, FILMMAKER: You can't build a bridge to a racists or misogynists. They have to be shunned and treated like we treated smokers 20 years ago, 10 years ago. Racists and misogynists shunned. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: So all Trump supporters are basically racist and misogynist, they should be shunned. Audrea, your reaction? DECKER: Name calling doesn't help anything. We need to be able to have a conversation in America where both sides come together, and maybe disagree with each other, but do it respectfully and with civility. And we don't need more of that in America. That kind of rhetoric is divisive and it's dangerous. ARROYO: David, isn't this kind of David. It reminded me of the attacks this week on "A Charlie Brown" Christmas where people are now saying, critics are saying you're racist, Charlie Brown, because there's Franklin, the black friend, who is at the other side of the Thanksgiving table. This is really -- isn't this too far? The use of race to demonize people, a whole swath of Americans? BURSTEIN: Yes. I think we've gone too far. And at this time of year where everybody is coming together and celebrating the holidays, I hope people in Washington can find it in their hearts to say let's work together and hear everybody's voice. ARROYO: Look at that. David, in the break, we're going to sing Kumbaya. (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: Thank you for being here. Up next, a surprising new survey from Pew shows that Americans find meaning in something other than faith. And a spirited debate with Tony Perkins and atheist Hemant Mehta, next. ARROYO: With the holiday season in full swing, Pew Research asked where do you find your meaning in life? According to this research study, the majority of Americans, 69 percent, say family. Surprisingly, faith comes fourth at 20 percent. Joining me now to discuss is Family Research Council President Tony Perkins, and Hemant Mehta, who is the editor of "Friendly Atheist." Thank you both for being here. Your reaction to this, I want to start with you, Tony. Does this beseech a dwindling of faith that we see, God and faith as a meaning of life, dwindling, sinking in the polls? TONY PERKINS, FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL PRESIDENT: Actually, Raymond, I'm thrilled by this, that family is so high ranked in this survey, that people say that family is where they get their sense of meaning. That's actually a positive revival of family, if you will. I think if you look at how the economy is doing in the United States, unemployment is low, it's not surprising that religion actually drops down lower in this list. It's still fourth. That's still pretty good considering what is happening in other industrialized nations. When there's a downturn in the economy, when things start to fall apart, that's when people turn to religion. So from a sociological standpoint, I think this is accurate. From a theological standpoint, it is a bit troubling. ARROYO: Hemant, your reaction? HEMANT MEHTA, EDITOR, FRIENDLYATHEIST.COM: Yes, I agree, it should be troubling for religion. It doesn't surprise me one bit that people find meaning in family and experiences, and what actually surprised me the least about this is when they looked at young people specifically, I think faith became less of a meaningful experience for people who were younger than the age of 30. So it shows that faith has a lot of trouble moving ahead in the future regardless of what the economy or social situation is. ARROYO: Tony, you react to this, but Hemant, all the studies I've seen, faith is something that usually comes to people as they age in life, as they encounter challenges and they deepen their understanding of the world and get out of themselves, right, Tony? PERKINS: What Jesus taught in Matthew Six was seek first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all of these things will be added unto you. That's what I was referring to from a theological standpoint, because when you set your eyes on the things on this earth, you miss the bigger things. And as you live for those things that are transcendent, then all the other things fall into place. But it is interesting, as you look at the age, as people get older and they start dealing with the real issues of life and considering what happens after this life, there is more of a turn toward religion, because they want to make sure that they make the right decision. ARROYO: And those people who said that faith was important to them, it was the most meaningful thing in their lives, so they feel it deeply. And that was an interesting part. MEHTA: That was a small group of people. That was a small group of people. And again, when so many young people are finding more value in people they love and the ability to make the most of the one life that they have, they're not going to resort to religion later in life. That's a very optimistic spin that has no bearing in reality. PERKINS: That's been a progression for decades. And it's not a small percentage. You look at black and white protestants, six out of 10 say religion is a top issue them, conservatives, same thing. The divide is really ideological. But I would say the one thing that is encouraging, again, going back to this, it's a time to be happy -- ARROYO: Very quickly, Tony, because I've got another topic. PERKINS: Family is top priority. And that's a good thing. MEHTA: That is a good thing. ARROYO: I want to get your thoughts on this, gentlemen. "Nature" magazine, the prestigious science magazine, came out against President Trump's proposal to identify sex based on strictly biological criteria. "Nature" tweeted this. "Editorial, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services proposes to establish a legal definition of whether someone is male or female based on the genitals they were born with. This proposal has no foundation in science and should be abandoned." Really? Hemant, I'll give you first crack at that. You think it should be abandoned? MEHTA: Look, this administration has shown us since day one they don't care about what science experts have to say about anything involving science. They would rather trust people like Tony who base their entire knowledge of science based on page one of the Bible. ARROYO: Wait a minute. But Hemant, your genitalia, the way you were born, you sex, does kind of tell you your gender. Isn't that scientific? Tony Perkins? MEHTA: That is the least nuanced perspective you can possibly take on this issue. PERKINS: Look, listen. This is what happens when people can't defend their position. They begin attacking the opposition. (LAUGHTER) PERKINS: Look, the reality is that we base law and policy on fact, on science, on biology, not subjective feeling. And what the Trump administration is doing here is reestablishing what was in place for probably 50 years through the 1964 and 72 nondiscrimination acts where sex is based on biology. MEHTA: We learn more as time goes on. If this administration cares about science, they should talk to the people that study this for a living. They should look at organizations that gave this information. PERKINS: If that is true, then the facts would be on the side of "Nature" magazine. ARROYO: "Nature" magazine is a magazine. It's not the people who do this for a living. MEHTA: I don't need an education on science from someone who is known for rejecting it all the time. ARROYO: When you look down and see what your kid is born with, that's pretty biological and scientific to me. I think we can make a ruling. Gentlemen, thank you. I wish we had all day. Now see them in the time breaks, the commercial breaks of this show often, but the My Pillow guy is now moving into film. Michael Lindell is here to explain his latest project, next. Plus, I hit the streets of New York to find out how the economy is impacting Black Friday shoppers. Wait until you see this. Stay here. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're going to splurge a little more. ARROYO: Really? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The economy is doing great. Everyone should be excited about the economy. Come on. It's awesome. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Welcome back to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. Raymond Arroyo sitting in for Laura Ingraham. Who doesn't know the My Pillow good night? But Mike Lindell is much more than that. He's a Born Again Christian conservative who is now giving Hollywood a run for its money. He's investing in a new film that attracting some controversy. Joining me now exclusively is Mike Lindell to tell us about this new film. Mike, it's called "Unplanned." It's a prolife film. Years ago, I interviewed Abby Johnson, who is the centerpiece of this story and the film. Tell me about it, and why did you decide to bankroll it? MIKE LINDELL, CEO AND FOUNDER, MY PILLOW: Well, they reached out to me. And they said you want to do a cameo? Would you like to get behind this film? And it was all anti-abortion, anti-Planned Parenthood. I prayed about it. I said, you know what, I'm all in. It was interesting, the cameo that I had, I get down there to do this filming, and they said Mike, we're going to bring in a stunt double. I said I don't want any stunt double. I want to do my own thing. So that was fun. ARROYO: What do they have you doing in this movie? Are you jumping out of cars? What are you doing, Mike? LINDELL: I'm riding a bulldozer, and you've only got one shot at this. There was like 300 or 400 extras, and it brings down the Planned Parenthood sign. And true story, this is based on a true story. And there I am getting out of the bulldozer. But all the producers had to decide because I said, no, I want to do my own stunt. I want to do it myself because I don't want to go on FOX later on and say I had a stunt double. (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: Now the truth can be told, Mike. Tell me, this is not going to be your only foray into films. You just also financed another movie coming out called "From Crack Addict to CEO," and it concerns somebody's personal biography. Who might that be? LINDELL: Yes, that would be myself. Actually my book is going to come out first. Another reason I got into films, I wanted to get involved with quality, amazing movies that have a message. And when my book comes out, it's called "What Are the Odds, From Crack Addict to CEO?" And if anyone doesn't know, I had an amazing story. I used to be a crack cocaine addict. But this movie "Unplanned" is going to be just amazing. It's going to send a very powerful message about abortion, being prolife. Everything starts at conception. And it's going to be amazing. It's an awesome movie. It comes out March 22nd, 2019. ARROYO: Mike, very quickly, what was the one thing -- and we only have a few seconds here. What was the one thing that turned your life around? What was it? LINDELL: Jesus. ARROYO: That's a pretty good answer. LINDELL: Jesus Christ, yes. ARROYO: My final question. Do you get a free My Pillow when you buy tickets to either of these movies? That's what I want to know. LINDELL: No. But if you do get one, you'll be sleeping well. ARROYO: I knew you would get a plug in. Thank you, Mike Lindell. We'll talk to you soon. Also tonight, the biggest Black Friday in history is coming to a close. The National Retail Federation says a record 116 million shoppers were expected to hit brick and mortar stores today. That's up 63 percent from last year. So I hit the streets of New York to see how this booming economy might be helping. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am not holding back. I do feel a little better about spending this year, and I feel like the sales are about the same. There were stores that were like 50 percent off. I think that's a really good teal. So I'll go in any time they say it's 50 percent off. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I do feel better about shopping. I think there are great sales out there to be had, and I think we've taken advantage of them while we're here. ARROYO: What did you get? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Many clothes, things, and yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My gosh. We're having a great time. We're not holding back. We're spending the weekend in the city and having a blast. We're really celebrating this year. ARROYO: Personally, with this economy, are you holding back? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. I'm splurging. ARROYO: Really. Why? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Doing well, the economy is doing very well. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was really crowded, for sure. ARROYO: How are you feeling about the economy? Are you holding back or do you want to splurge a little more? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're going to splurge a little more. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The economy is doing great. Everyone should be excited about the economy. Come on. It's awesome. ARROYO: Are the sales better this year than last year? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Absolutely. Yes. Check out his Uggs. ARROYO: What did you get? You got new Uggs? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Check out her watch. She got a fossil watch. ARROYO: Why do I feel like Vanna White. I'm pointing. And what did you get? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I got some Thanksgiving Macy's mugs because she was in the Thanksgiving Day parade yesterday. And so I wanted some mugs to commemorate. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Never splurging. ARROYO: Never? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I always splurge. ARROYO: So it doesn't matter? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Doesn't matter. ARROYO: How do you feel the economy is doing? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Awesome. ARROYO: Really. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Awesome. And I'm a small business owner, so we know. It's doing really, really well. ARROYO: Tell me what you got. She did you buy? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just for my mom. ARROYO: Jackets for mom. And what is this? Some goodies. Good, good. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We bought to many. ARROYO: More loot. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, we have like 20, for sure. ARROYO: What? Tell me, are the sales better this year than last year? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. Much better. ARROYO: Really? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, and there's so many more people out today than ever. ARROYO: Happy holidays and merry Christmas. Which do you prefer? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Merry Christmas. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Merry Christmas. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Merry Christmas all the way. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Merry Christmas. ARROYO: Happy holidays or merry Christmas? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Merry Christmas. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Merry Christmas. ARROYO: Merry Christmas to you. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you. ARROYO: Do you prefer happy holidays or merry Christmas? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Merry Christmas. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Merry Christmas. ARROYO: When you're a small business, do you prefer happy holidays on merry Christmas? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Merry Christmas. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Both, because I think that there are a lot of holidays celebrated. But it's special to me to say merry Christmas. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Merry Christmas! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Happy holidays. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I like both. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I know they're great sales, but I'd rather have my money in a Roth IRA. Compound interest is the most powerful force in our universe. Everyone used to open up retirement accounts. ARROYO: Who put you up for this? Where did you come from? Who do you work for? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I work for Rural Opportunity Institute, but I come from Iowa. And I just believe in saving. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Well, it's not a Black Friday out there I can tell you. It's very bright. Stay tuned. Tonight's literal last bite right after this. ARROYO: Well, it's time for the literal last bite. Last night, my home team, the Saints whooped the Falcons, then they indulged in a bit of a Thanksgiving tradition, or is that a Falcon leg? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Go ahead. I want to hear how they are. Is it all right? (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Save one for me, Drew. And only in New Orleans do you get a second line parade at a who dat Walmart after game day. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (MUSIC) (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Does this sort of thing happen? The second line is after you bury the body, you celebrate that they have gone home to God. We have second lines all the time. With Christmas upon us, may I recommend my "Will Wilder" adventures for young readers? The third in the series is coming in February from Random House. But it's a perfect time to get "Will Wilder, The Relic of Perilous Falls" and "The Lost Staff of Wonders." They're sort of young Indiana Jones meet "Stranger Things." And it's one of the few middle grade series where the entire family goes on the adventure with a hero. Get the "Will Wilder" books. That's all the time we have tonight. And I want to thank Laura for having me sit in for her. She'll be back Monday. Load-Date: November 24, 2018 End of Document President Trump Has A Long List Of Achievements Since He Was Elected In Office; Democrats, Along With Their Mainstream Media Friends And Liberals, Are Trying To Ignore What Trump Has Done For The American People And Just Oppose Everything He Plans; Democrats Went Around The Country To Campaign For The Midterm Elections But They Don't Have Any Platform That Will Lift The Lives Of Suffering Americans Or To Improve The Economy, Their Focus To Win Both The House And The Senate In Order To Use Their Power To Retaliate Against President Trump And His Cabinet Members Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 22, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 6715 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Matt Finn Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Welcome to the special edition of HANNITY, and happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Now, for the hour, we will bring you some of the most memorable opening monologue from the past few weeks. Tonight, we start with the midterm elections. I recently explained in a monologue how Democrats prior to people going to the polls once again pulled out their tired, worn-out playbook to try and win votes. They do this every two and four years. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: All right. Devoid of any ideas to help improve the country, the left in America completely humiliated after 2016, they are now desperate. Every two and four years, you've heard me say this often, we've become accustomed to their playbook. Republicans, racist, sexist, you know the whole list, et cetera. But over the past 21 months, we have seen something even worse than what we usually see, name-calling, identity politics, that just wasn't enough. Instead, we watched the left for two years now vilify this president, any conservative, any Republican. Now calling on their supporters to literally create crowds, confront so-called evil opponents that happen to just disagree with them. Hillary Clinton said, you can't be civil with a Republican Party member that wants to destroy American values. And there's Maxine Waters, one of the new leaders of the Democratic Party, urging her supporters, create crowds, go after Republicans, where they eat, and grocery stores, department stores, gas stations. Cory Booker urging voters, get up in the faces of people in Congress and the cabinet. Eric Holder, Republicans go low, we kick `em. This kind of rhetoric started from the very moment Donald Trump, frankly, came down the escalator, but certainly when he was inaugurated. In fact, on January 31st, right after the president is inaugurated, 2017, failed vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine, just to remind you, he had this to say about what Democrats need to do in order to reclaim their power. They were looking for it on day one. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. TIM KAINE (D), VIRGINIA: The way we get outside the bubble is we take advantage of this tremendous public outcry against the administration. What we've got to do is fight in Congress, fight in the courts, fight in the streets, fight online, fight at the ballot box. And now, there's the momentum to be able to do this and we are not afraid of the popular outcry. We are energized by it and that's going to help us do our job and do it better. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: On this program, we are saying this better stop. This is what I'm saying to everybody. This better stop before people, our fellow citizens, some of our elected politicians are severely injured or even killed. In this country, differences should be settled at the ballot box, not on the streets, not with a violent mob, not with fists or intimidation. Not with riots in major cities. And as you can see, this is not the approach Democrats are taking. And while words are just words, I understand, I hold people accountable for their own actions, but some people are inspired by these words, sadly. Are we really surprised by what we have been witnessing, what we have all been seeing? Sarah Sanders, her family, kids, run out of a restaurant. Secretary Nielsen, same thing. Senator Ted Cruz, his wife, Heidi, run out of a restaurant. The Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi violently confronted just trying to go watch a movie. Republicans shouted down all over D.C. and reports tonight in Minnesota, two local Republican candidates were assaulted by far-left individuals. In one case while talking to constituents, state representative candidate Shane Mekeland literally was sucker punched. Not only does he have a serious concussion, he will have a four to six-week minimum recovery. He says this is not what he signed up for. No kidding. A few days earlier, while campaigning door-to-door, state representative, Minnesota, Sarah Anderson, she was punched by a person claiming to be an anarchist. And meanwhile, in Nevada, a Democratic operative arrested after violently assaulting GOP campaign manager Kristin Davidson after a political event in Vegas. Nevada's attorney general, now the Republican gubernatorial candidate, called this a new low for politics in Nevada. And last night, Senator Lindsey Graham, he talked about how he was actually spat at during the anti-Kavanaugh protests. Listen, a threatening package was sent to Susan Collins' home with contents they claimed to be ricin, a poison that can kill people. Her staff receiving thousands of coat hangers, other horrible threats via phone. Make no mistakes: what we are seeing here is the left unhinged in America and they have been unhinged the day that Donald Trump announced, certainly the day he won, and the day he was inaugurated and it has not stopped. They are hoping that this vitriol, this hatred where the even get rid of due process and the presumption of innocence, they are hoping this is what carries them into November. And if Democrats take the House, I've been telling you, and it's true, impeachment will be on the table. They just keep begging Maxine Waters, just keep it a secret. Just like the Center for American Progress says, don't talk about, ever, immigration. It's a losing issue. Just pretend you're somebody you're not. How does that help the American people? What does that do to create jobs? How does that make us more prosperous? How does that make us and our families more safe and secure? We see it every two and four years -- racist, sexist -- you've heard my list. But this time, it's even worse. Now, the mainstream media literally trying to link President Trump, FOX News, talk radio, everyone they disagree with and hate anyway with vile atrocities, with an anti-Semitic attack that took place in Pittsburgh. I'm not making it up. We got the tape. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right and we have to start doing something about them. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, if you guys stop saying mean things about me, I'll stop inciting angry lunatics to kill you. Deal? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whether the president knew what he was saying, the alleged gunman certainly heard something that resonated. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What a Trump is doing is stoking and inciting for the purposes of political power the worst amongst us to take action in his name. Anybody who sits there and says that there is not causality between these events and the incitement is as dishonest as they are blind. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think you have to be a rocket scientist to draw the lines between these people and the rhetoric that is being parroted by the president of the United States right now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The racists and the anti-Semites think that he is perfectly tolerant of racial violence and anti- Semitic violence. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Yes, the president is the most pro-Israel president in our lifetime. Ask the prime minister of Israel. Ask Ron Dermer. They are pointing it out. And to blame individuals like this is beyond hateful. We'll get to that later. Also, we have anti-Trump hatred. It's become so unhinged, even the rabbi from the synagogue that was attacked, he's getting hate mail. Why? Because he's meeting the president who was going to mourn the lives of innocent people killed. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RABBI JEFFREY MYERS, RABBI OF THE TREE OF LIFE SYNAGOGUE: When I first said that the president was welcome, I received a lot of emails, too numerous to count. I can't keep track for every mail I read, two appears as I'm reading that one. So, I just cannot keep up with it. I've received many emails that are not happy with those words. The thing that saddens me is those emails also contain hate, and it just continues in this vicious cycle. Hate promulgating more hate promulgating more hate, and that's just not the solution. We need to be better than this. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Pretty despicable. We do need to be better than this. The violence has got to stop. The threats, the intimidation have no place in this country. Sadly, many on the left, political differences now just demonize somebody you disagree with. To them, Republicans are evil, the president is evil, FOX News, talk radio is evil. It's why you see this kind of rhetoric, over the top from liberals like -- oh, actor James Cromwell saying this week that there will be, quote, blood in the streets if Democrats don't take back power and destroy the president's agenda. Tried to walk it back, good luck with that. This kind of rhetoric is not only surprising, but it's regular. The left is using the politics of fear and division for decades. They want dirty air and water. Republicans want to take your grandma on a wheelchair and throw them over a cliff and they want to kill children. It's nothing new. This is their playbook. Don't take my word for it. We have been chronicling a history of slander, character assassination, character bludgeoning by the left for now as we begin our 23rd year, four decades on this program. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Many Republicans talking coded racial language about takers and losers. They demonize President Obama and encourage the ugliest impulses of the paranoid fringe. BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: If you accept the support of Klan sympathizers before you are president, you will accept their support after you're president. JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: He's going to let the big banks once again write their own rules, unchained Wall Street. They're going to put y'all back in chains. AL GORE, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: It's wrong what the leader of the Republican Party and this Congress are doing in blocking an accurate census because they don't want to count everyone that they don't think they can count on. They are in favor of affirmative action if you can dunk the basketball or sink a three-point shot. But they're not in favor of it if you merely have the potential to be a leader in your community and bring people together. Don't tell me we've got a colorblind society. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: June 7, 1998, in Texas, my father was killed. He was beaten, chained and then dragged three miles to his death all because he was black. So, when Governor George W. Bush refused to support hate crimes legislation, it was like my father was killed all over again. MISSOURI DEMOCRATIC PARTY RADIO AD: When you don't vote, you let another church explode. When you don't vote, you allow another cross to burn. (MUSIC) OBAMA: And then you got their plan, which is, let's have dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: See? We don't just make this stuff up. This is what they say every two and four years. (END VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: Here's my opening monologue from after the midterms, breaking down what the results mean for the president, Republicans and the country. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: For months, Democrats, their funds on CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, "New York Times," "Washington Post," they all but were giddy, guaranteeing a huge, massive, enormous blue wave. They predicted that Americans would send a message to President Trump. They acted like Republicans have never been more unpopular, divisive, racist, sexist, and even worse. And guess what? Again, they were completely wrong. That blue wave, it never happened. Tonight, we do have a split Congress, Democrats picked up seats in the House of Representatives, Republicans main control, gain seats in the U.S. Senate, increasing their majority. Republicans were also victorious in the most high-profile races, where literally tens and tens of millions of dollars were spent. In Texas, Democrat, almost $100 million, a little less than $100 million, they used to defeat Ted Cruz, it didn't work out. His opponent, Bozo O'Rourke got support from celebrities, Beyonce, Jimmy Kimmel, well, that was all a waste because Senator Cruz was reelected last night. In Florida, socialist darling of the left, Mayor Andrew Gillum was bolstered by a visit from Obama, a campaign concert even with Jimmy Buffett, nearly every single poll predicted a Gillum win. Again, they were wrong. Republican Ron DeSantis supposedly had no chance, he is now the governor-elect of Florida. Good decision, Florida. In the Senate, Republican Rick Scott, he won against Democratic incumbent Bill Nelson. By the way, Nelson is being a bit of a crybaby, he wants to challenge the seat, wants a recount. Scott up by tens of thousands of votes, that seat is now Rick Scott. That's Senator Scott from Florida. In Georgia, former president -- former President Obama campaigned, Oprah Winfrey campaigned, even went door- to-door for Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams. Well, pro-Trump Republican Brian Kemp, he is over the 50 percent mark. That means there will be no runoff in the state of Georgia. Another win. Now, of course, one of these things that they all have in common is President Trump campaigned in all the states. He was in Georgia, Florida, Missouri, Indiana, Tennessee, North Dakota, Texas, where Republicans took home statewide victories. Now, Republicans will pick up what looks like a gain of three seats in the U.S. Senate, that is massive, especially when you look at the historical perspective. Democrats will get a net gain of around 35 seats that gives them control. They needed 23 for control of the House. But some results are still pending. Now, let me put this in perspective. Republicans actually had what is an amazing, historically speaking, election night. Now, remember, 44 House Republicans retired, that is a massive number. But here is the history, here are the headwinds, that very few people ever talk about. Let's go back -- let's start with 2010, Barack Obama's first midterm. Look at that. Democrats lost in his first midterm, 63 seats in the House, six seats in the U.S. Senate. That's a total of 69. In 1994, Clinton Democrats lost 52 seats in the House, eight seats in Senate. That's a net loss of 60. Even Ronald Reagan, 1982, he'd only been in office two years, his first midterm, Republicans lost 26 House seats and gained zero seats in the Senate. Since 1914, look at this, the president's own party has only picked up seats three times during the midterms, three times in over 100 years. We knew this going in. During the same period of time, Donald Trump is only the third president to gain Senate seats while losing seats in the House. And Trump campaigned for senators, he went to state to state for those races he could campaigned for. He couldn't go out and go to all 435 House districts with 435 different House candidates, that would be physically impossible. Now, keep in mind, during Obama's eight long years in office, look at this, Democrats lost control of more than 1,000 state and national offices. By the way, he had a pretty bad night last night. (END VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: Now, we're just getting things started. Coming up on this special edition of HANNITY, my opening monologue on Justice Kavanaugh's confirmation battle. That's straight ahead. (NEWSBREAK) HANNITY: Welcome back to the special edition of HANNITY. And here is my opening monologue from the night that Brett Kavanaugh was sworn in as a Supreme Court justice. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: All right. In 2016, remember then-candidate Trump, he promised to reshape the U.S. Supreme Court. He wanted to put on people that were originally constitutionalist, those people as judges. Not people that legislate from the bench. Well, tonight, President Trump has resoundly fulfilled yet another campaign promise. Judge Brett Kavanaugh is now officially been sworn in as the newest member of the U.S. Supreme Court, a lifetime appointment, making him now the second judge successfully sent to this bench by the president. And tonight during his swearing in ceremony, the president, he congratulated Judge Kavanaugh. He also apologized for the horrific nomination process that we all witnessed for almost three straight weeks. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: On behalf of our nation, I want to apologize to Brett and the entire Kavanaugh family for the terrible pain and suffering you have been forced to endure. Those who step forward to serve our country deserve a fair and dignified evaluation, not a campaign of political and personal destruction based on lies and deception. What happened to the Kavanaugh a family violates every notion of fairness, decency and due process. Our country, a man or a woman, must always be presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Presumption of innocence, it is core to who we are. Judge Brett Kavanaugh had this to say about his historic nomination. Let's take a look at that. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUSTICE BRETT KAVANAUGH, U.S. SUPREME COURT: Article 3 of the Constitution provides that the judicial power shall be vested in one Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is an institution of law. It is not a partisan or political institution. The justices do not sit on opposite sides of an aisle. We do not caucus in separate rooms. The Supreme Court is a team of nine and I will always be a team player on the team of nine. I was not appointed to serve one party or one interests, but to serve one nation. America's Constitution and laws protect every person of every belief and every background. Every litigant in the Supreme Court can be assured that I listen to their arguments with respect and in open minds. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now in the face of one of the most despicable, disgusting political hit jobs ever in our history -- well, Judge Brett Kavanaugh just made history now from the very beginning the day that Justice Kennedy announced his retirement right here on this program, I warned you all of this would happen. Now, tonight, we begin thanks to all of you. This is now the beginning of my 23rd consecutive year right here on the FOX News Channel, and over the course of that period, we have chronicled all of this for you. It is the Democratic playbook. We get this all the time. Robert Bork, Clarence Thomas, and now they did it to Justice Kavanaugh and his two young girls and his wife and his family. What this is about is about power. The left will stop at nothing when it comes to blocking a nomination or winning an election. Elected Democrats openly even accusing Kavanaugh of gang rape and drugging teenage girls on a regular, almost weekend basis, calling him evil, comparing him to Bill Cosby and so much more. And with zero, zero corroborating evidence, zero corroborating witnesses and it was based on, what, nearly four decades old claims and most of them had holes and inconsistencies all over the place. Now, this kind of guilt by accusation was parroted by the so-called news media in this country, including the late- night so-called common comedian and comedy shows with the far-left holier-than-thou host like Stephen Colbert. Over the weekend, well, we had a writer for Colbert's late night show actually tweeting this: Whatever happens, I'm just glad we ruined Brett Kavanaugh's life. Ah, just for a second, stand back, think how ugly and despicable disgusting that is. She later apologized and she's being sarcastic. Nothing funny. That tweet sums up pretty much what we have witnessed now for far too many elections, far too many confirmations in this country. And unfortunately, it's all they're offering you the American people in 29 days. The politics of personal destruction their motivations, they -- it's clear, it's obvious, it's transparent. They want to regain power and they do it try to make conservatives as evil as you possibly can. And as you can imagine -- well, they're taking the Kavanaugh -- they're taken the Kavanaugh confirmation tonight very well. Gee, this is a shocker. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the institutionalization of tribalism on the court. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Women who are shrieking out in agony saying you cannot impose this on us. You can't send us back to the `50s. But Mitch McConnell says, yes, I can. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a president who says. He's for law and order, but not when it comes to sexual assault. That's quite clear. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think this is in many ways a crushing defeat for women, for women's rights. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Trump has delivered for these people on the things that they care about most. He has delivered racism for these people. He has delivered misogyny for these people and now, he's delivered the Supreme Court for these people. We're going to see if this if this reign that they now have control over all three branches of government, we're going to see if this reign lasts for 30 days or two years, or Thousand-Year Reich. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, after Senator Susan Collins issued a historic address and bravely cast what was the deciding vote, sending Judge Kavanaugh to the bench -- well, recently, Senator Collins, her staff, get this receiving rape threats, death threats, other derogatory calls. An op-ed in "The New York Times" entitled: White women, come get your people -- slamming Collins and any woman that thought different than they did and supported Kavanaugh, calling them, quote, gender traitors. Over at NBC News, an op-ed led with the headline, quote: Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation is the ultimate affirmation of the patriarchy and Republican women let it happen. Next, there is known anti-Semite, anti-Sharia law or Sharia law advocate, Linda Sarsour. Really? She's helping organize the Women's March and actually introduced Senator Kirsten Gillibrand in New York at an anti- Kavanaugh protest? A woman that tweeted out, quote, that Senator Collins is, quote, a disgrace and her legacy will be that she was a traitor to women and marginalized communities? History will not treat her kindly. Cancel Kavanaugh, hashtag. (END VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: And coming up on the special edition of HANNITY, my opening monologue on President Trump's accomplishments, the ones the mainstream media will never tell you about. Stay with us. HANNITY: And welcome back to this special edition of Hannity. It is no secret that liberals look the other way, they downplay and ignore the president's very long list of accomplishments. But there is no denying that his agenda is working for the American people. Now I highlighted many of the president's successes in one of my opening monologues recently. Just take a look. Tonight, Democrats spread a message of fear and division like they do every two and four years, President Trump a very positive message to deliver today. His agenda, it is working, the evidence is in. The economy is booming like never before and just today, new numbers. The labor Department announced big news, a whopping 250,000 more new jobs added in just the month of October, shattering all expectations even in spite of a hurricane. And unemployment, well, it's at a 49-year low, 3.7 percent. We now have a record number of Americans employed and wage growth, look at this number. It is now surging past 3 percent. That means real money in people's pockets for the first time since 2009. And overall, nearly 4.5 million jobs have been added since President Trump has been elected. Now keep in mind, we already have a record unemployment for Hispanic-Americans, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, women in the workplace, youth unemployment. We literally have more jobs available, about a million, than we actually have on food stamps. We have more people out of poverty than ever before. There are more jobs than we have people for. The country, we have success after success shattering every record on the books. And record low unemployment in 14 states. Now even some on the left, they can't help but admit the Trump agenda is actually working. We are getting all these election week conversions. Look at this. Former Obama economic advisor touting the jobs numbers calling the jobs report, quote, "everything you could ever want." In a New York op-ed for Fox News, former Clinton advisor Mark Penn, he praised the president for taking a bold stance on major issues. Americans tonight are taking notice four days out of an election, it is why the president's approval numbers are continuing to soar, hitting 51 percent in the latest Rasmussen poll. So, four days until the important midterm elections. Ask yourself this question, is President Trump delivering on his promises? Is he keeping his word? Well, he is going all in, you can see it. Eleven cities, 11 states, 11 stops in just what, five or six days. Fighting for every vote, crisscrossing the country. The speed of Trump, all on behalf of policies that are working for the forgotten men and woman that suffered eight years under Barack Obama because of every objective economic measure, you look at it. We are better off. All right, two years ago, Americans from all over this country went to the polls, they cast their ballots for Donald J. Trump. Virtually all the political pundits and analysts, so-called journalists, pollsters, they predicted a huge win for Hillary, they were all wrong. Americans, the voters, you shocked the world and ever since while the Trump agenda has been paying massive dividends in just two short years. And this all comes as President Trump slashed regulations. Promises made, promises kept. It comes after he signed the single biggest middle-class tax cut in American history, a promise made, a promise kept. He opened up American energy, now literally we are on a path towards energy independence. Green lighting the drilling in ANWR, the Keystone pipeline, the Dakota access pipeline, a promise made, promise kept. Negotiating new trade deals in Europe, renegotiating NAFTA, pulled us out of the job killing Paris accord. Promises made, promises kept in two short years. He has led with peace through strength abroad. He has pulled us out of the one-sided ridiculous insanity of the nuclear deal, we are no longer dropping cargo planes of cash on a tarmac for radical mullahs that chant death to America. Addressing the looming crisis in North Korea, keeping the promise. So many other presidents made, he's the only one to keep. This promise of moving the embassy in Jerusalem, in Israel to Jerusalem. Promises made, promises kept. And despite being out of office for two years, this is the joke of all jokes watching Obama this weekend -- Obama with the worst record of any president in modern history which I will point out -- he is now trying to take credit for Trump's success, watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: When you hear all this talk about economic miracles right now, remember who started it. (APPLAUSE) OBAMA: Remember who started it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Let's remind you the voters what his actual record is, because it's humiliating and it's embarrassing. Eight years of Obama, 13 million more Americans were on food stamps, eight million more Americans in poverty. The lowest labor participation rate since the 70's. The worst recovery rate since the 40's. The lowest homeownership rate in 51 years. Get this, he was the only president in U.S. history never to experience a 3 percent GDP growth in a single year of his presidency, and the guy that claimed $9 trillion in debt? That's irresponsible and unpatriotic? In eight years of Obama, he took on more debt than any of our president before him combined. That was two years ago. Tonight, President Trump have been making a final pitch to voters in an op-ed on Fox News and the message is clear. "If you want more safety and security and prosperity for the American people from all walks of life, this is about continuing the progress, voting Republican." HANNITY: And coming up on the special edition of Hannity, what do Democrats plan to do that now that they have control of the House. That monologue straight ahead. MATT FINN, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Live from America's news headquarters I am Matt Finn. President and first lady Melania Trump spending the Thanksgiving holiday at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach County, Florida. The Trumps hosting a holiday dinner there tonight, it was a lengthy menu, it included a carving station with turkey and all the trimmings as well as beef tenderloin, lamb, salmon, also Chilean sea bass, red snapper, and braised short ribs. Sides included whipped potatoes, sweet potatoes and traditional stuffing. Gusty winds and bone chilling temperatures did not stop a holiday tradition, the 92nd annual Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. New Yorkers and tourists braved the frigid temperatures to watch the colorful parade. Giants floats were kept a little closer to the ground because of today's wind. There were floats aplenty including this one from Sesame Street. I'm Matt Finn. Now back to Hannity special. You're watching the most powerful name in news, Fox News Channel. HANNITY: And welcome back to the special edition of Hannity. I warned you this could happen. Now that the midterm election is over, we are starting to see what Democrats and their real agenda will be, the ones they were hiding. I broke it down in this opening monologue, take a look. The modern Democratic Party, the left wing in this country is in a very sad and frankly, alarming state. Night after night right here on this program, we have documented their hard-left turn and with very few exceptions, the party is now devoid of any moderation, any moderates. No diversity of thought. No ideological differences. Everybody else that thinks differently, they are vilified. They offered no solutions to help the forgotten men and women in this country and solve our problems. Now they called those who disagree with them evil. They have ginned up hatred and fear all across the country and now many top Democratic leaders, they are going further urging supporters to take vengeance against those that dare to disagree with them. This includes the former Attorney General Eric Holder. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ERIC HOLDER, FORMER UNITED STATES ATTORNEY GENERAL: Michelle Obama, I love her, you know, she and my wife like really tight which what scares me and Barack. But Michelle would say that, you know, when they go low, we go high. No. No. When they go low, we kick them. (APPLAUSE) That's what this new Democratic Party is about. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We kick them, really? This is the top cop under Barack Obama from hope and change to kick them on the ground. Of course, Holder is not alone. That kind of despicable and disgusting rhetoric has been echoed by so many top Democrats. Watch for yourself. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, (D) FORMER U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. That's why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and/or the Senate, that's when civility can start again. REP. MAXINE WATERS, (D) CALIFORNIA: It you see anybody from that cabinet, in a restaurant, in a department store, in a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them, and you tell them they are not welcome. Anymore, anywhere. SEN. CORY BOOKER, (D) NEW JERSEY: Please don't just come here today, and then go home, go to the hill today. Get up, and please, get up in the face of some congresspeople. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You know what, with rhetoric like that, is it any surprised that Republicans across the country have been literally harassed by angry mobs, left-wing activists. Just a few days ago we witnessed members of Congress getting shouted down on Capitol Hill, harassed in elevators, stalk, and airport, run out of restaurants. And even one instance where a Republican congressman was assaulted inside his own office after a hoard of protesters kick in his door. In Portland, Oregon, far left activists blocking traffic and assaulting commuters. Meanwhile, you have Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, Homeland Security Secretary Nielsen, Senator Ted Cruz, press secretary Sarah Sanders, all recent targets of the far-left mob. But over a fake news CNN, their word police, well, they've taken over believe it or not, some of their hosts are actually shaming guests for using the proper term, which is mob. Would they want their liberal friends run out of restaurants like Sarah Sanders, Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen? Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MATT LEWIS, COLUMNIST, THE DAILY BEAST: When you see people like Ted Cruz getting chased out of restaurants by a mob. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're not going to use the mob word. LEWIS: I will. It's totally a mob, it is without a doubt. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey, Matt. LEWIS: There is no other word for it. It's a -- go up to, put up the-- (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mob. A mob. Stop. Stop. LEWIS: That is mob behavior. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How many times do you have to say that. (CROSSTALK) DON LEMON, CNN HOST: Hold on. Everybody, stop, everybody, stop. Matt, we already did that, we already said they want mobs. No, it's not mob behavior. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you. LEMON: It's people who are upset and they are angry with the way the country is going and the policies that there people-- (CROSSTALK) LEWIS: So, they're just-- LEMON: Will you let me finish, Matt! Please? Before you jump in? OK? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, the left-wing media, fake news CNN they are asking you not to believe your lying eyes, you, the American people, of course, you know better. Your head is not buried in the ground like theirs and you know a mob when you see one. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (CROWD CHANTING) SEN. TED CRUZ, (R) TEXAS: Excuse me. CRUZ: Let my wife-- (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Kirstjen Nielsen is in a Mexican restaurant of all places, shame on you! (CROWD CHANTING) ELAINE CHAO, UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION: Why don't you leave my husband alone? (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Back off. (CROSSTALK) (CROWD CHANTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That's a mob. Now, Congresswoman Maxine Waters who called on the mob to harass conservatives at gas station and grocery stores, et cetera, she is actually now audaciously blaming President Trump, of course. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WATERS: We cannot allow Donald Trump and anybody else to take protest away from us and to be violent and to try and make us look like a mob. They are trying to change the description of protest and call it a mob. Well, this president is the poster boy for what a mob protester looks like. He, as a matter of fact, he is the one who has been violent in his speech. This country is past due for the kind of protest that we have seen women do in the last few days. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now to think that Congresswoman Maxine Waters could be a committee chairman if Democrats take back the House in 27 days? That brand of vitriol, that could have real consequences. Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky he issued this urgent warning earlier. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. RAND PAUL, (R) KENTUCKY: When Democrats say get up in their face, they need to realize that there are a lot of unstable people out there, there are people with anger issues. There are people that are prone to balance, they might even live next door to you, you don't know where these people are, but what we shouldn't do is incite people to violence. The problem is, is rational people might back down but what's going to happen when the guy comes with a gun to a rally or comes with a knife to a rally? There is going to be an assassination if this doesn't ratchet down and I think the other side needs to really calm the rhetoric down. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Remember, Senator Paul was attacked in his home, he was a senator, his private information was doxed by far-left activists. Senator Paul's wife, Kelly, now sleeping with a loaded gun by her bed. And sadly, many Republicans private contact information that is being made publicly available by extreme left-wing radicals. Democrats in the House, they are still planning to wage a never-ending full-scale investigation into everything. Let me make you a promise tonight. We will be watching every day, let's see if they do anything for you, we, the people. And by the way, they just want to attack Trump, they don't care about anything else. That's their top agenda item. Jerrold Nadler, the likely chairman of the judiciary committee, he was overheard on a train from New York to D.C. bragging about his plan to launch full-scale investigations again after two years into Russian collusion and plot to impeach Judge Kavanaugh. Good luck with that. Now he's not the only Democrat plotting endless investigations, likely incoming House intel chair, he's really the biggest liar in Congress, Adam 'shifty' Schiff who wants to be a TV host on MSNBC, he has similar plans. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF, (D) CALIFORNIA: While the Republicans walked away from the investigation, the Democratic minority has continued and we've been bringing witnesses, and we've been learning more and that work won't stop when we take the majority. But we will be able to get answers the Republicans were unwilling to pursue, records that the Republicans wouldn't ask for. The question, though, that I don't know whether Mueller has been able to answer because I don't know whether he's been given the license to look into it is, were the Russians laundering money to the Trump organization, and that will be a very high priority to get an answer to, for the reason that if they were doing this, it's not only a crime but it's something provable. Something that the Russians could hold over the head of the president of the United States. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Let's not forget about congresswoman impeach 45, reclaiming my time, reclaiming my time, Maxine Waters. She's now hoping to become the next House financial services chairwoman. Instead of working for the betterment of all Americans she is plotting revenge, impeachment, and as the head of that committee she would be overseeing Wall Street, take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WATERS: They say, Maxine, please don't say impeachment anymore, and when they say that, I say impeachment, impeachment, impeachment. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, it's going to be an entertaining two years, our job we will be keeping an eye on all of them. Now Democrats they are taking their cues from their de facto leader, of course, Nancy Pelosi and her track record, her leadership is suspect at best. Take a look. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI, (D) CALIFORNIA, MINORITY LEADER: We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy. If what you're doing is cutting the taxes at the high end and therefore not being allowed to invest in the future, you're doing a great disservice to our country. We all agree that President Trump's decision to end DACA is a despicable act of political cowardice. Donald Trump is a job loser. The debate on healthcare is like death. Well, I wanted single payer. I mean, I wanted a - I would love a single payer but we're not there. In terms of the bonus that corporate America received versus the crumbs that they are giving to workers to kind of put the schmooze on is so pathetic. So, what? They're going to say if you give them some stock it's going to be a slippery slope? I certainly hope so. The priorities in American people and they are not what President Bush is saying. I'm so sorry, President Bush. We've seen nothing that we can work what I can work with President Bush on. The president's fitness for office is something that has been called into question. I'm very worried about his fitness. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Did you see anything there indicating Democrats have plans to make your life better? Of course not. They are on a path for revenge and this is all about a quest for power. We'll have more of the special edition of HANNITY as we return, straight ahead. HANNITY: Welcome back to the special edition of HANNITY. Unfortunately, that is all the time we have left this evening. Happy Thanksgiving to you and our family. We thank you always for being with us, and let not your heart be troubled, the news never stops. Laura Ingraham or somebody is next, have a great Thanksgiving. Load-Date: November 23, 2018 End of Document Laura Ingraham And Panel Discuss About Thanksgiving Dinner, If It Should Be Free From The Subject Of Politics; Laura Ingraham Interviews Rob Reiner About Politics In Hollywood; Analysts Compare Presidents Donald Trump And Ronald Reagan; Politics In Sports Examined; Presidential Pardons Of Thanksgiving Turkeys Profiled Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 22, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8547 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Shannon Bream, Sara Carter, Ed Henry, Matt Finn, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Scott Bolden, Bill Bennett, Craig Shirley, Lou Holtz Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: We thank you always for being with us, and let not your heart be troubled. The news never stops. Laura Ingraham or somebody is next. Have a great Thanksgiving. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hey, everybody, I'm Laura Ingraham. Welcome to the special Thanksgiving edition of THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington tonight. We are going to take you through the topics that dominate Thanksgiving tables across the land and interviews that we have done that speak to those very issues. And on tonight's show, Raymond Arroyo and I analyze the executive turkey pardoning techniques -- very important -- of various presidents. And we will talk about some of our favorite family traditions, and then we are going to dive into Thanksgiving at dos and don'ts of our own and I have many. Football, of course, is such an integral part of Thanksgiving traditions, and we recently spoke to legendary coach Lou Holtz about the dangerous conflation of sports and politics. The entertainment industry is always a hot topic at the dinner table, and even more so this year. So we are going to bring your highlights from our interview with Hollywood heavyweight Rob Reiner and ask him why Trump derangement syndrome is such a powerful force in Tinseltown. But first we begin with a frightening realization that millions of families across the country face tonight. They talk politics over turkey. The total horror of that unfolded all across the land. And just last year, a poll from "PBS NewsHour" and Marist found that 58 percent of Americans dread talking politics, while 31 percent said they were eager to hash it out over the table. And even more alarming, an issue of "Science" magazine this past May revealed that Thanksgiving celebrations this year -- that year -- were about 30 minutes to 50 minutes shorter for Americans who cross partisan lines for the holidays and those who traveled to areas that voted as they did. Well, joining me now is our own little Thanksgiving gathering, so excited, Shannon Bream, chief legal correspondent and host of the show airing right after this one, "Fox News @ Night," one of my faves. And of course, Scott Bolden, Democratic strategist and attorney of course, and Sara Carter, investigative journalist and fox news contributor, and Ed Henry, chief national correspondent, all the way up in New York. Guys, it's great to have you all on tonight. And Shannon, I want to start with you. You heard those two studies. Are we really this far apart politically and how do you control your interactions especially with family members who can push your buttons like nobody else? SHANNON BREAM, FOX NEWS CHIEF LEGAL CORRESPONDENT: I think you get everyone into the turkey coma. What is it, the tryptophan? It's the thing that gets everybody happy. You've got football, I mean, you've got pumpkin pies. I mean, there are so many other things to focus on other than the sad, horrible jabs at each other. I mean, if you show up first of all in your pajamas to the table that is a conversation starter. You can stay in your adult onesie as long as you can and then I just want -- I would rather debate the stuffing like is it filling, is it wet filling and stuffing. I'd rather debate that that than politics. INGRAHAM: But it is kind of crazy, though. I mean, I remember the old saying, never talk politics -- SCOTT BOLDEN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: I was about to say that. INGRAHGAM: --and religion at the table. My mother used to say that a lot and I think that there is really something to that like if you go to Europe -- people say you go to Europe (inaudible) and you go to Europe and they are always kind of surprised. They say, well, what do you do? They don't even ask what do you do. It is always about is this wine great or have something else, do you like this? But we do get all wound up. BOLDEN: Yes, we are wound way too tight. And by the way, I sit and talk to my clients about religion or politics whether there is alcohol involved or not, but I think everyone ought to start the Thanksgiving dinner table, pre-table setting with alcohol. Whatever you do that day, you drink. Drink and keep drinking and stuff. Shall I say that on national T.V.? INGRAHAM: Yes, it's fine. BOLDEN: But moderately drinking, but also maybe just a little buzz, because everybody will be happy at the table by then. INGRAHAM: Well, except for those mean partisan -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, unless you have -- (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: You got to keep those out. They can go eat on the porch. INGRAHAM: Sara, but I think people feel when they are with family, especially, that they can kind of let their hair down and they can have these conversations at the table, right. It is a safe space, but is it really? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, it is a safe space until everybody starts arguing, right? And that is when everything ends. So if you want the 30 to 50-minute short version of Thanksgiving, go ahead and bring up politics, right. Then you can scoot everyone out of the house. But if you don't, I think the important thing is, Laura, is like sitting down. What we try to do is talk about the things that we are grateful for, right? We try to just steer away like what we are grateful for each other, the things we have done over the year. Try to focus on those things that make us happy as a family and especially when you have children, right? When you have kids sitting around the table and there are a lot of adults, you know, it is a time to just kind of behave yourself. INGRAHAM: Right. BOLDEN: And they're listening. CARTER: Yes, they are listening and when somebody starts to get out of line that is when you bring in the pumpkin pie or the sweet potato pie -- BREAM: Or the alcohol. (CROSSTALK) CARTERL: You know, play a little joke about that and go on. I really think, though, you just brought up so many great points here. We are living in a time where people are so divisive and we have seen what, you know, is happening in California with the wildfires, the devastation, the loss of life. I think it is a time to sit back and be grateful for what we have and who we are, and just talk about those things. Those are the things that are going to make us -- INGRAHAM: And by the way, these dinners are going to continue because we are going into the Hanukkah season -- CARTER: That's right. INGRAHAM: -- we're going -- advent is starting, then it is Christmas then it New Year's, so there is going to be a whole series of opportunities to offend each other. So why do it -- BREAM: Spread it out. INGRAHAM: Don't limit it today. All right, Ed, everybody at this table and you, first of all, we wish you were here because we're all (inaudible) -- no, we're not. But Ed, we wish you were here because we love you, but we wish you were here. But Ed, here's what I find. As people come up to me or at the table from having like, well, "I know you don't want to talk shop, but" and then they just go, "I know you are sick of politics, but do you mind if I say this?" And what are you going to say, no? But that happens to me all the time. And of course you say, oh no, happy to talk GDP, or happy to talk, yes. This is like just what I want to do on Thanksgiving. Did you ever get that? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I get it all the time, you are absolutely right. And you don't want to seem rude and say, you know, stop talking to me, but I talk politics all day. Let's talk about something else. And frankly, that is what I want to add to the conversation. Why are we even forcing it? If people are so divided, let's talk about things that unite us. And we heard it from Sara, Shannon, and Scott, as well, talk about family. You know, oddly, religion is almost less divisive now, talk about your faith. Talk about football, how about football? No one has mentioned football yet. INGRAHAM: Well -- BOLDENT: Depending on who you -- what your team. CARTER: Depends on your team. HENRY: But Laura -- INGRAHAM: I'd like to say is two words, "Roll Tide." It's all in the -- HENRY: TDS is real. Turkey derangement syndrome is real. INGRAHAM: OK. All right. Here are five ways to keep family political arguments off the table, OK. Number one, reminisce about Thanksgiving dinner past. Number two, accept that mundane conversational questions are fine. Number three, skip the tradition of going around the table at all and saying what you are grateful for. BREAM: Come on. BOLDEN: I like that tradition. INGRAHAM: This sounds counter-intuitive, but expressing gratitude invites political statements like I'm glad Democrats won the midterms. I'm glad that California flipped fives seats. BREAM: That is always that aunt (ph), right? BOLDEN: I am, but I won't to say that. I am, but I won't say that. INGRAHAM: But Scott, this is for you. Number five, limit alcohol before and during the meal, Scott, so. BOLDEN: I thoughts (ph) are depressing. The mean drunks will go to sleep. INGRAHAM: No, but Ed -- Ed, isn't that right because some people when they drink, they lose their inhibitions so, they might get a little bit -- HENRY: Let me say another thing about Donald Trump. And another thing, and by the way, crooked Hillary -- yes. CARTER: I just got one more thing to say about the (inaudible). HENRY: Keep your alcohol away. INGRAHAM: When you really think about it, all right, when we're all -- we'd all take our last breaths and we all hope that's not anytime soon, but when we do, we're not going to be remembering anything about any of the political stuff that has -- really, we are not. We're going to remember when we saw our child for the first time, you know, that hug from your mother when you were hurting. That when you helped someone or someone helped you or mistakes that you learn from, that is the kind of stuff you remember, right? CARTER: Yes. You remember when you look in our child's face and you remember the first time they took their first walk or the first time they came home and said "mommy, I love you," you know, for after-school or, you know, the things that you did together as a family to get through the hard times. And you know, we've forgotten about service to others, right. Just taking a moment to do something for somebody else and not for ourselves and maybe that is a good thing that will get families together tonight. You know, do something for somebody else, for a stranger and make yourselves feel good about it. You know, it is a good feeling to get away from yourself. BOLDEN: But you know, if it does delve into politics, I'd like to drive the conversation to really just how great this country is. Democrats or Republicans, we got a lot to be thankful for, for just being here in this country, and I'm going to challenge my family members -- if we are being divisive, and both sides can take blame, what individually are we going to do to bring this country together in our own space and our own community? That's a great conversation -- INGRAHAM: This is why I love Scott. He's so (inaudible). You all really need to work -- are you guys auditioning for the Hallmark Channel? (CROSSTALK) BREAM: Which by the way, also, will shut down everything. You just watch the Hallmark Channel and you can also work on your Black Friday list. You know what I mean. You sit down and you start mapping the shopping strategy for the next morning or whatever. INGRAHAM: Oh yes, I'm all over that. BREAM: People will want to know the deals and bargains and they would want to -- BOLDEN: Online. (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: They are always online. BREAM: Yes, you put bargaining deal with family members too like, if you don't start a fight tonight, I will get you tomorrow. BOLDEN: Right. BREAM: You get this. INGRAHAM: Ed, what would someone have to do to get you to miss part of Thanksgiving Day to wait in line to buy something at a store? This is a phenomenon I can't believe happens. HENRY: You're right. I would never wait for hours. It's insane. (CROSSTALLK) HENRY: And you see the video every year of people beating each other up just to be the first in line at Target or Wal-Mart. What are you thinking, people? CARTER: They are getting their frustrations out. That's what they're going to be doing. INGRAHAM: Shannon, they are there with her hibachi grills and their grilling out (inaudible), this is Thanksgiving. He's like, well, this is my Thanksgiving dinner. BREAM: Again, I do think you should wear pajamas if you are doing thi sin public. It is just kind my roll for all things that are uncomfortable. INGRAHAM: OK, Shannon, that one poster -- you're going to poster your show -- BREAM: Yes, in the pajamas. I mean -- INGRAHAM: In onesies. BREAM: I have the feety (ph). The feety (ph) is different than the ones that just cut off at the ankle. (CROSSTALK) CARTER: Are you going into a theme here? INGRAHAM: I will never, ever wear an adult onesie. That's like that -- what's that other hoodie thing that -- I don't know what -- CARTER: You should ask people to send you pictures if they are wearing. (CROSSTALK) BREAM: Yes. Tweet a picture. CARTER: Tweet the pictures. BREAM: Tweet us your picture of what you are wearing because (inaudible). INGRAHAM: All right, let's go around and -- let's start with worst but funny, not worst sad, but like worst or most uncomfortable Thanksgiving or holiday moment involving a table or being around the table. CARTER: Oh, gosh. INGRAHAM: All right, I'm going to start. I'll let you be. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: OK. I was 12 years old and my, or maybe 12? No, maybe 11 or 10. And my brother Jimmy came home from college. He went to WPI, and has just came home from college and I idolized my brother Jimmy. Idolized. As the littlest -- I missed him. I cried when he went to college. He comes home and he had his hair a little long. This is the '70s -- his hair was long. He came home with like a macrame belt, you know, those like belts that used to have the long tassels. My mother, god rest her soul, we lived in a tiny little rambler house, she looks at him and says, "What? You are going to get your hair cut." I can still hear her voice. "You are going to get your haircut. What's happened (inaudible) it was just the way she was. My brother got up from the table and walked from Glastonbury, Connecticut all the way to the Hartford, Connecticut bus depot and took a bus back home, back to the college, sat there and ate like a hot dog out of a can for Thanksgiving. We laughed about it years later. My brother and I still laugh about it, but I was bereft without my brother like I was crying. It's just a stupid stuff that happened like, kid's parents, you know, push the buttons. CARTER: And everybody fights, right? (CROSSTALK) CARTER: We try to act like -- when we try to act like, oh, and people think your family must be perfect, you never have an argument. No, we had great arguments. You know, my mom was from Cuba and Thanksgiving was her favorite holiday. She loves this country. Always wanted to make it the most perfect dinner, invited everybody over, all the aunts, sisters, my godfather Emilio. I just remember one where they got into a big, political argument. Yes, we are a divided family. There are conservatives and liberals. Big argument. The argument just kept escalating, the turkey was in the oven, and the turkey was burned. There was -- INGRAHAM: It burned bad? CARTER: Yes. It burned completely. The fighting went on for so long. I mean, Cubans can really go on. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: That is my kind of Thanksgiving. CARTER: Yes. Cubans go -- yes, it burned. There was no -- but you know what, in the end -- in the end I thought it was going to end badly. In the end, everybody was laughing, everybody thought -- the turkey made them laugh. They cooked something else. I think they went -- INGRAHAM: Do you remember what the argument was about? CARTER: You know, I kind of remember. My uncle had come from Cuba -- I don't want to get into -- there were a lot of arguments back and forth about the political system. INGRAHAM: All right, Scott? BOLDEN: Why turkey pots (ph) are really important in my family. Me and my dad and brothers and cousins, we love the turkey necks and we like the Turkey tail (ph), don't pass any judgment, right. INGRAHAM: I like it too. BOLDEN: So we cooked extra ones, right? But if you get to the dinner table late, they are all gone. And I got there late one day after college when I was coming home, and they were all gone and there was no piece at the table. My dad is a retired judge. I'm a lawyer. I got a couple of cousins that are lawyers. INGRAHAM: You argued that out. BOLDEN: And I was ready to write a legal brief to all of them about how offensive they were to not leave me a turkey tail or a turkey butt. INGRAHAM: Shannon? BREAM: I'm going to take it Christmas because most are going to be there. But my family, I remember, I had come home from college and I remember we were invited to -- my dad was really good friends with the man who was then lieutenant governor of Florida -- and we are invited to this special Christmas or Christmas Eve dinner with their house. So they give me a tour of the house and I'm at the top of their staircase and I look down, the party is down there, I'm getting ready for the dinner, and I somehow missed a step and I start sliding down the staircase and I'm grabbing onto the banister, which is woven with live garland. And I'm jamming my hands with pine needles the whole way down. The whole party stops and everybody watches this girl fall down. And I get up and it's silent and I'm sort of like, "I'm fine," but my hands are bleeding and the needles are falling and I'm like, this is going to -- I'm not embarrassed at all. And I was like 19 or 20. INGRAHAM: I know when you are that age, anything is embarrassing. All right Ed, give us something, I mean, your stories not exaggeration but -- HENRY: You know, I hear always wonderful stories and yet what comes to mind is my grandparents were always determined to have one table -- even though their dining room table couldn't come close to fitting everybody. And so by the time you got down to me, when I was a kid, you know, you are like four tables down, it was like a construction table that was missing a leg. Hence, the name kiddy table, and I remember how hard I worked to want to get to the -- I want to get to the big table someday. INGRAHAM: Any day now, Ed. You'll be there, any day now. HENRY: Yes, someday. I'm still not there, you are right. INGRAHAM: All right, guys. All right guys, that was fantastic. For more on why Trump won and how the GOP can do it again, get a copy of my paperback, "Busting the Barricades: What I Saw at the Populist Revolt" in bookstores everywhere. And coming up, actor, director, and outspoken Trump critic, Rob Reiner is here. He is a lot of fun and he is going tp address Hollywood's black list for conservatives, next. INGRAHAM: The entertainment industry makes no bones about their preference for liberal politics. But this past midterm season, they seemed to kick it up a notch. It makes this interview with Hollywood actor and director Rob Reiner I conducted last January all the more relevant today. He makes no secret about it that he is not a big fan of our commander-in-chief. You think? I sat down with him to find out why. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Let's talk about what politics does to art, OK? ROB REINER, ACTOR AND DIRECTOR: OK. INGRAHAM: Politics and art, they always had a connection. REINER: Yes. INGRAHAM: There's always been a connection and conservatives in Hollywood, you know, the ones that will actually rear their heads, say that there is a blacklist in Hollywood. That if you express support for Trump, basically it is like what Harvey Weinstein did. The people (inaudible) they don't work. REINER: I don't know that there is a blacklist, but I can tell you that the vast majority of artists, directors, writers, actors, are liberal. There is no question about that. And there is a reason for that because liberals have a very big view of things, you know. This is what I've said. I said this to Bill Clinton. In the Oval Office, I said, you know the difference between Republicans and Democrats? Republicans know they are right. Democrats entertain the possibility that they might be wrong. And that is the big difference, and that is why you see liberals drawn to the arts, because it is more of an open minded kind of thing. And I'm open minded -- look, I came on your show. INGRAHAM: I love it. This is what it should be about. I love it. I think it is fantastic. REINER: Yes. INGRAHAM: Now, are you bothered -- looking back in the '70s as I grew up watching you, as Michael Stivic, the liberal do-gooder on the family. REINER: Right. INGRAHAM: Did it bug you with that Archie Bunker was more beloved than your character because you are kind of your character. He was a liberal who ended up playing this kind of, you know, this blue-collar, irascible guy, but he had a lovable side to him. REINER: He did. He did. And he got a lot of criticism because people are saying -- INGRAHAM: Love Tim. They love Tim REINER: Well, they were saying how dare you make a lovable bigot? INGRAHAM: Right. REINER: And we always said, he is a human being. He loves his wife, he loves his daughter, and that makes him human. INGRAHAM: And you say -- but you say Trump -- you said he is a racist. You said he -- REINER: Well, he is. INGRAHAM: He absolutely is not. Do I look like a person who would hang around with someone who is -- I don't hang around with him but I've known him for 15 years. I will tell you this and you have to believe me. REINER: I'm going to listen. INGRAHAM: You might think he is, you know -- REINER: I just go by what he says. INGRAHAM: You might disagree with his policies, that's fine. I have no problem with that. He's not a racist. He is not a racist. REINER: Then why did he spread this thing about Obama -- why did he spread this thing about Obama being not a citizen? INGRAHAM: I disagree with that. There were a lot of people who did that. REINER: Well, that is a very racist thing. INGRAHAM: He is not a racist. If you are a racist -- REINER: And why did he say -- INGRAHAM: I don't think Oprah Winfrey would have been friends with him for all those years. That is just ridiculous. REINER: And why does he say that there is good on both sides when there are Nazis marching? INGRAHAM: Sometimes, he's not the most precise in his lingo (ph). REINER: And why does he say S-hole countries? Why -- INGRAHAM: So, like Obama S-house or you know, S-place -- S-storm about Libya or Lindsey Graham. Is he a racist, who talked about the hell hole of Mexico and Central America? Again, I see -- REINER: I'm just putting all of these things together, Central Park five, not renting to black people. There's a thing here. INGRAHAM: So you -- anyway, so, getting back to the -- REINER: I think he is a racist. INGRAHAM: But you don't know him, like I don't say people are racist -- REINER: I don't know him that well. I've met him one time. INGRAHAM: I know and you thought he was a narcissist like nobody in this town is narcissistic. I read your comments about Trump. "He is one of the biggest narcissist." I'm like, you hang out with the people who read other people's lines for a living, OK. REINER: You bet. And I can tell you -- INRAHAM: And they look at themselves in the mirror all day. Look, I'm in television too, but come on, I mean, narcissism? REINER: OK, so let me tell you. I work with the biggest narcissist in the world. Actors are the biggest narcissists in the world. They want attention, they want to be loved, they don't even come close to this guy in the one time I spent with him. I was with him with Billy Crystal and we -- INGRAHAM: Another person I adore. REINER: It was at his hotel for one of his fights. You know, they had a fight -- INGRAHAM: But I mean, narcissist. REINER: And he basically only talked about himself the whole time. INGRAHAM: I know, we all know that's a (inaudible). I mean, Bill Clinton was a smooth operator, but he might be better at hiding his narcissistic tendencies. Clinton, Obama, I mean, Reagan actually was not narcissistic at all and I used to work for him. Not narcissistic, but, I mean, JFK. REINER: Usually, you get to that position, you need to be loved. You need that much of attention. INGRAHAM: But do you -- do you have like -- So Archie, like people compare Trump to Archie Bunker. OK, fine, whatever. REINER: Well, they are both from Queens. INGRAHAM: They are both lovable, but you don't see anything redeeming, at all, in Donald Trump? Not a -- REINER: I don't see him -- I don't see him being lovable. I'm not judging, you know, Donald Trump by -- INGRAHAM: You just don't like his policies. I mean, you don't like his policies, that's fine. REINER: No, no, no, that's not true. I don't like his policies, that is true. INGRAHAM: The booming economy, you don't like that. REINER: But I don't like the way he conducts his life, the way he treats people. INGRAHAM: But you just did a movie about LBJ who had horrible personal flaws. REINER: I don't like a man who goes like this with towels, with paper towels. I don't like that. I don't like the way he treats other people. INGRAHAM: OK, so the paper towel throw, you know, was he a big athlete? Was this like in Houston, the hurricane deal? REINER: Wow, you're making some really bad arguments, Laura. INGRAHAM: I don't think so. REINER: You are smart as hell. You know better than to say when I make that comment, I'm talking about the way - - his behavior, the way in which he behaves towards other people. That's all, that's all I'm talking about. I'm not talking about anything else. INGRAHAM: OK, just before we let you go, your dad is such an amazing man and talent. REINER: Well, I'm going to say you're great because you try to find the differences and the tension even when there shouldn't be. I think that's pretty admirable. INGRAHAM: I mean, I don't think this -- it's a conversation and I'm just. And again, Rob Reiner is someone who actually should be lauded because he is someone who doesn't agree with probably a lot of what I think, that's fine, but he actually comes in for a conversation. And I tell you, Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill, Rob, a lot of them won't come on this show because I actually read legislation. REINER: Who doesn't come on the show? INGRAHAM: Lindsey Graham, Jeff Flake, John McCain -- well, he's not feeling well, but, you know, Cory Gardner, a lot of Republicans. They are afraid to answer questions about their job and I find that to be disturbing. The fact that you are willing and you've gone on with Tucker, I know. You went on with O'Reilly. And that is really admirable. REINER: We ca have a conversation. INGRAHAM: It's really good and more people should do that. And we do have a lot in common, believe it or not because I love your craft and what you have done in Hollywood. I don't want to get you in politics. Politics is about that much of life, but your dad is someone I also really, really admire. He is 95 years old. REINER: Yes. He's going to be 96 in two months. INGRAHAM: As old as my mother would have been. REINER: He gets up every morning and he says if I'm not in the obits I eat breakfast. INGRAHAM: (Inaudible) read the obits to make sure I'm not in them. And what life lessons it did you learn from him that you carry with you when you get up in the morning? REINER: The biggest thing I got from him is the way in which he conducted his career. The way in which he treated other people and the way in which he did his work. I, you know, it wasn't like he sat me down and taught me. I just watched the way he behaved and how he handled his career. It was like a regular guy, you know, so that's what I got from him, more than anything. INGRAHAM: Thanks for being here. I had a lot of fun. When you come back on? REINER: Yes. Absolutely. (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Coming up, do you want a worthwhile sense of history for the Thanksgiving table? Two Reagan experts talk about the uncanny similarities between Trump and our 40the president, next. FINN: Live from America's headquarters, I'm Matt Finn. Hundreds of volunteers are spending their Thanksgiving Day searching for the remaining victims of the so-called Camp Fire, the death toll from the deadliest wildfire in California history rising again tonight. An 84th victim has been found. Another 563 people are still unaccounted for this evening in and around the city of Paradise. The city was largely incinerated by the fire that started two weeks ago. Heavy rain today is hampering search efforts. China's vice minister of commerce taking the United States to task Friday night in Beijing, Wang Shouwen saying trade talks between the U.S. and China should be mutually beneficial. China's commerce minister lashing out against a recent United States report showing Beijing has failed the changes of unfair practices in intellectual property and technology transfer. The presidents of both countries are expected to talk in person at the upcoming G20 summit. I'm Matt Finn. Now back to the INGRAHAM ANGLE special. INGRAHAM: Here is a little lesson for your turkey and stuffing conversations. Donald Trump is nearly 675 days into his presidency, and a new polling average from 538 reveals that he is just as popular as Ronald Reagan was at the exact same time in his presidency. But there is still a lot more he can learn from the great communicator. Earlier I spoke with the two experts, Bill Bennett, who served as the secretary of education under President Reagan, and I worked for him, and Craig Shirley, the author of four bestsellers on the 40th president, including "Reagan Rising." (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: All right, Bill, I find this to be fascinating that we now have all of these liberals coming out and saying, well, the Trump folks, on any given number of issues, gosh, if only they were more like Reagan. How do you process this today? BILL BENNETT, FORMER SECRETARY OF EDUCATION UNDER RONALD REAGAN: Yes, well, it is kind of funny, isn't it, rosy memory changing the way things were. I don't remember it being very pleasant back then serving with Ronald Reagan with the liberals in the media. There is a line in Shakespeare, though, that says he's good, being gone. But one has to say, whatever criticisms came down during the Reagan era -- and there were a lot of them -- I got some, you derivatively got some, you were working for me, as you said. Ronald Reagan got plenty. It's nothing compared to what Donald Trump is getting. So if they can use Ronald Reagan to beat up Donald Trump, they will do it. And they can do it with a straight face. I don't know how they pull off the straight face. INGRAHAM: Craig, you always remind us of this fact, that the left will do anything to regain power, even invoking the political figure they thought was basically the enemy. I want to play some flashback sound from some of our favorites in the media. And I believe this was during the administration, right after the president -- right after he passed away. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MORLEY SAFER, FORMER CBS CORRESPONDENT: Did his vision include extraordinary deficits? Did his vision include cutting the budgets for education and back of the hand in terms of public education? LARRY KING: Are you saying, Morley, history will not be kind to him? SAFER: No, I don't think history particularly will be kind. I don't think history has any reason to be kind to him. SAM DONALDSON, FORMER ABC ANCHOR: I used to say, you are down on your luck, and you got through Secret Service, got in the Oval Office, Mr. President, I'm down on my luck. He would literally give you the shirt off his back. And then he would sit in his undershirt, and he's sign legislation throwing your kids off a school lunch program, maybe your parents Social Security. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He wanted grandma to eat Alpo, remember that, guys, Craig? This is unbelievable. CRAIG SHIRLEY, RONALD REAGAN BIOGRAPHER: Ketchup was a vegetable, too. This is a pattern that plays itself out actually many times, Laura. When Eisenhower was president, liberals derided him, they said Eisenhower couldn't read if his lips were chapped. Then he becomes a paragon of virtue. Barry Goldwater was attacked by psychiatrist in newspapers and denounced as crazy. Now he's held up by liberals as a paragon of virtue. The left hated Richard Nixon. I saw a liberal story on MSNBC the other day actually favor Richard Nixon comparatively to Donald Trump. Gerald Ford, both Bushs were all hated by the left, until they were no longer in office. Then they become convenient tools to bash the current occupant of the White House. So it's nothing new, but it's especially infuriating with Reagan because they know nothing about Reagan. As I said earlier to you this morning, Laura, they are in over their head. They don't know what they're talking about. INGRAHAM: And we all worked for President Reagan, and we all know that on the issue, for instance, of immigration, a lot of Democrats are out there saying, the Republican Party, Donald Trump, if only again they were more like Reagan on immigration. So let's play a few of the choice sound bites from President Reagan on immigration. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RONALD REAGAN, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: The simple truth is that we have lost control of our own borders. And no nation can do that and survive. I've spoken of the shining city all of my political life, but in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks, stronger than oceans, windswept, God blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds, living in harmony and peace. If there had to be city walls, the walls had doors, and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Bill, you can take a hit at that one. First of all, I get shivers every time I hear him speak. But talk about the city on the hill, the city had walls, it would have a door. So the left takes that part of the city on the hill and anyone can come. Ronald Reagan wanted everyone to come, but then of course they forgot the part about the wall and the part about the country without borders isn't a country. BENNETT: Once again, he's good, being gone. It occurred to me while you were talking to Craig, maybe two, three, four elections in the future, we will see videotape of Donald Trump -- the liberals saying those were the days when people had heart and soul. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: I don't think so. BENNETT: Just a thought experiment, here, Laura. Could it be worse until it gets worse? SHIRLEY: Bill might be absolutely right. BENNETT: But no, there is so much the two share in common. Craig was saying the other day, or maybe I read it in his book, this commitment to defense, to a defense buildup, which is so essential to both of them. The focus on a wall, Reagan wanted to tear one down, the right one, and Trump wants to build one up, and that is the right one, too. But they're very different personalities, and yet very much going in the same direction, it seems to me. The thing I think, I would be interested in Craig's opinion on this, having served in the cabinet, and proudly, for Ronald Reagan, I think this is a more conservative cabinet than Ronald Reagan had, don't you? INGRAHAM: Craig? SHIRLEY: Yes, I think so. But it's also, don't forget, Bill, the bench -- you were a great conservative in the cabinet, and William French Smith, and of course Ed Meese, but the bench was a lot thinner. This is a byproduct of the Reagan presidency is that there's a lot more talent now to be available for the Trump administration that wasn't available in 1980. INGRAHAM: And think about that. Think of all of the people that were waiting in the wings to get appointed to the appellate court. All of those 50 something-year-olds, late 40s, they were children of the Reagan era, were they not, Bill? I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing -- the left would probably love that, if it weren't for Reagan, if I didn't work for you. I wouldn't be doing any of this. BENNETT: The AAA and AA leagues, very much highly populated with the right people. I remember, Laura, at our place, remember, we got known as Fort Reagan at one point. We had 134 political appointees. And I remember Senator Weicker who was supposed to be a Republican, said what are you doing with all these political appointees? And I said, I think we are doing it right. We won. We won the election. And that was a great training camp. And it is interesting to see where a lot of those people have gone. Famous television personalities, such as yourself -- INGRAHAM: Bill, they can blame you. (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Coming up, the disappearing goal line between sports and politics. Legendary football coach Lou Holtz joins me next to explain. INGRAHAM: When you think of Thanksgiving, come on, you think of football. But sadly, football has been hijacked in some quarters for political gain. A few months back, we spoke with Lou Holtz, Notre Dame legend, and a member of the college football hall of fame. We spoke about patriotism and the clash between sports and politics, and why it has become so overwhelming today. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: This has been so wild, for me, to watch what's happened and in football. I've always been a football fan, my whole life. My mother was an Alabama fan -- sorry, coach -- she was a wild Alabama fan, which I inherited. No particular reason. She just liked Bear Bryant. And it was always imbued with a sense of patriotism and love of country. And we are now at a place where an invitation to the White House turns a Super Bowl champion coach into a puddle of goo. They're debating for weeks how to handle it. What has happened in our country? LOU HOLTZ, COLLEGE FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME: First of all, I was fortunate enough to take a football team to the White House, and it was a great experience for all of our players. One again, they weren't going to earn millions of dollars player a year by playing professional football. But I think that we just get fouled up in what our priorities are. The one thing I always told our team, and I believe this so strongly, we'll not use our football team to promote anything except the University or the Philadelphia Eagles or the New York Jets, whatever the case may be. If you want to promote a cause and use your time and your money, that is fine. The locker room belongs to the players in the NFL. They can say anything they want in there. However, the football team on the field belongs to me, and we have to be focused on one thing. We're here to win back the Super Bowl, nothing else matters. I don't want any other distraction on this football team except one focus. I congratulate Coach Peterson on just doing a tremendous job. He lost a great quarterback, yet he still managed to win the Super Bowl. And I'm very proud that he was looking forward to getting to the White House. And it is unfortunate the players don't get that experience. INGRAHAM: And his quarterback was actually one of the few people who wanted to come to the White House, along with Coach Peterson, who wanted to come, as well, but they didn't make the trip. Another coach from the NBA, Coach Kerr from the Golden State Warriors, made this point, coach, about patriotism and Trump, let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEVE KERR, HEAD COACH, GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS: The president is turning all this stuff into a political game, and a ratings game. And it's a blatant display of nationalism. We just have these military sing-alongs at the White House to show how patriotic we are, even though we don't know the words. (LAUGHTER) KERR: It's just incredible. It is incredible. But I'm really proud of people in this country who are recognizing what's happening, and instead of turning this into a political game. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He went on to say, they are following their conscious, basically. That is Steve Kerr, coach for the Warriors. HOLTZ: First of all, where is he living? I think Golden State is out around San Francisco, and that's probably the view of most people. Laura, I'm an individual. I remember when my father went to the Pacific for almost five years. I never saw my father for five years, but fortunately he came back. Many children's fathers didn't come back because they paid the ultimate sacrifice. I've been to Afghanistan. Last June I was in Korea, the DMZ zone. Go into a hospital in Afghanistan and see people that have lost their legs, et cetera, and yet they still have a love of this country. When you talk about politics, then that is what is coming into this game. If you don't believe in something -- and I think it comes back down saying President Trump is a racist. I get tired of hearing that, racist, homophobia, et cetera. For 70 some years, he did business. He was in the public limelight. There was never a claim one time about him being a racist. I was in Detroit yesterday with Ben Carson, we are trying to do some things for the disadvantaged youth under President Trump's leadership. They had a sign there I thought was great. They said talent is equally distributed around the world, opportunities aren't. Let's work to give people an opportunity, particularly the young people. But there have been more cops shot this year than in the previous year. You just keep looking at it, it is absolutely insane, because we aren't focused. We have a problem because we have different objectives. We might have a difference of opinion, how to make America great, how to get people an opportunity, how to win a championship. Coach Kerr has done a tremendous job. He has some great athletes. He also won several championships when he was a player. Congratulations on that. But when you talk about a political statement, read Steve Kerr's comment, that says it all. INGRAHAM: I think what they are saying is the players are following their conscience about police brutality. It is not about the country, it's not about the flag, they are very patriotic people, but they are just, in their own way, protesting against police brutality, and they think Trump doesn't understand that, so they don't want to go spend time with before. HOLTZ: I think what President Trump said this morning is great. He said to all the players, you talk about police brutality, you talk about police being unfair, bring it to me, bring me the case, bring me the people. I will look into it. He can't do any more than that. But let's not use sports in order to promote a cause. We are there to win a championship, that is our only purpose. INGRAHAM: I can tell you, coach, I was at the White House when the Crimson Tide came, of course national champions this year. They all came, coach made it clear everybody is coming. I'm sure players didn't like Trump there, but they came. They had a great time. It was a beautiful event. It was packed out, and to me, that is what it is all about. We put aside politics. It is about the country, and that's the people's house, and celebrating national champions. Lou, it is so great to see you. Huge fan. And come back soon, would you? HOLTZ: I will, but we've got to go to Notre Dame to a game like you requested. INGRAHAM: We are doing out this fall, OK? You and I are going to a game this fall. I'm embarrassed, I've never been to Notre Dame. I'm completely embarrassed, so I am coming this fall with you. That is a date. Coach, thanks so much. HOLTZ: Thank you. (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Coming up, Raymond Arroyo and I analyze of the techniques of presidential turkey pardoning, and we share some of our personal traditions for this Thanksgiving time of year. INGRAHAM: So I've heard of getting a turkey and bowling, but I've never heard of using an actual turkey as a bowling ball in a black bag. Apparently, another bizarre Thanksgiving tradition, in a moment. But first, each president seems to have his own technique of pardoning the Thanksgiving turkey at the White House every year. Some do it more successfully than others. With expert analysis from a body language expert, I'm joined by FOX News contributor Raymond Arroyo. Raymond. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Happy Thanksgiving. INGRAHAM: Happy Thanksgiving. So what's going on here. ARROYO: This goes back 71 years. Truman was the first president, supposedly, presented with a turkey. He did not pardon the turkey presented by the National Turkey Federation. I guess he ate it. INGRAHAM: What are you going to do, put it on a leash and collar and take it around? ARROYO: He did not pardon it, but every president since then has. And they all have their own particular technique of pardons. Here is Ronald Reagan. I call this the jovial, offhanded approach. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (LAUGHTER) RONALD REAGAN, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: Look, I had a chance to shoot a bunch of you the other day and didn't. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: That was the pardon, by the way. He shook hands, said goodbye, told a joke, and left. Other presidents have gotten more particular. Reagan, he kind of kept it very informal. I call this the stocking presidential pardon. There they are, stalking. INGRAHAM: Are they hurting the turkey? ARROYO: Either/or. But they're kind of creeping up on it. INGRAHAM: Why are they chasing the turkey here? ARROYO: It flew off the table and now they're going after it. Then George W. Bush came up with another approach. I call this the peck and pat approach to turkey pardoning. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: This is so stupid. ARROYO: No. Watch. Here comes the peck. There's the peck. And then he does this pat, very gentle pat. He doesn't want to get another peck. So that is his approach. And then later, of course, you have what I call the full ritual pardon, which Barack Obama implemented. Watch this. It is practically a religion ceremony. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: Popcorn, you have a full reprieve from cranberry sauce and stuffing. We wish you well. And we are going to give Carmel a break, as well. (LAUGHTER) (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: A full benediction there, Laura. He gave them the full blessing. INGRAHAM: I like that. ARROYO: I kind of like that, too. Then Donald Trump last year, President Trump, he created a very official, officious pardon for the birds. INGRAHAM: I don't see him working well with animals of any sort. ARROYO: Wait until you see it, it is very interesting. The official presidential pardon. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Today in the spirit of Thanksgiving, I will grant a presidential pardon to a turkey. Are you ready, Drumstick? OK. Drumstick, you are hereby pardoned. (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Drumstick. Only the bird Trump was pardoning would be called Drumstick. You know these things only live two years after they pardon them. INGRAHAM: Sad. ARROYO: They don't have long lives. So in some ways it may be more of a pardon just to eat them. Anyway. INGRAHAM: Sorry, we don't want to offend vegetarians. ARROYO: Traditions this time of year, Laura. What were your family traditions this time of year? INGRAHAM: My mother was a baker extraordinaire. She loved baking pies, and she made her own crust, she had this whole ritual with the cloth on the counter, and the flower, and rolling it out. And she would always say, this is the rolling pin we had in the depression, it is the only thing that survived the flood. But that was like five other things in a house that survived the flood. But everything was the only thing that survived the flood. But she not only made the most incredible pies and incredible crust, but she would demand that you say she makes of the most incredible pies. So she would make it, and then she would cut a piece -- ARROYO: Wait a moment, I have to stop you. A tradition, by its nature, is something that is continued by the children in the next generation. So do you sit there with a rolling pin, mother Ingraham, at the home front over the fire making your own pies? INGRAHAM: My mother frequently asked me to take part in the cooking, and I was out playing kickball or baseball. ARROYO: Or at Balducci's ordering the turkey. INGRAHAM: I find you can get a decent pie that comes with frozen crust. They're actually pretty good. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: I have tried to make the pies. It is so frustrating, because it never comes out like my mom's. My mother would say, it's good, isn't it? Is it the best pie ever? And I would say, yes, mom, it's best pie ever. She demanded loyalty. ARROYO: I have to tell you our tradition. After we eat -- and this is an important time of year two cherish with your family. You never know -- INGRAHAM: When is the last time, my mother would say that. ARROYO: -- when's the last time you will see some of these relatives, so we do have to cherish every moment. After we eat we normally get together and play a game, like say anything, or Uno, or something, so that you're talking, you're interacting in new ways. The focus should be, and certainly in our house, is peace and harmony, Laura. Peace and harmony. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did I say something wrong? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You said a lot of things wrong. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You want to meet grandma? Here she is. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, my gosh. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: That is not a scene from my house, cruel of you people to edit that in. It's horrible. But look, I am so thankful this time of year, certainly for the entire FOX family for joining us and having us into their lives. To you and the crew in New York and everybody here in Washington, it has been a fantastic year. INGRAHAM: Aren't grandpa. ARROYO: Thank you. We have to do something uplifting at the end. INGRAHAM: It is more fun to focus on the horror stories of Thanksgiving. I don't mean accidents -- no, it is more fun to focus on things like the blowups. ARROYO: The house burning down. INGRAHAM: The best are people in a rush because they forgot something. Literally on my radio show, this woman said she forgot something, she had to roll out to the store really fast. She turns the car on, backs up, smacks, forgot to put the automatic garage door up. She smashes it. But people all have a story about Thanksgiving. You like to go to Bob Evans at Thanksgiving, don't you? ARROYO: I have hit Bob Evans once or twice. I don't like the day long fast. I think you have to eat. A man has to be fed earlier in the day. So at 10:30, yes, I break off for Bob Evans, have a little turkey, that is my pre-Thanksgiving feast. I'm going to thank me for you, I'm glad I could be of service. (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: Happy Thanksgiving. Oh, and I'm hosting tomorrow night. INGRAHAM: I cannot wait. And I'm thankful for Tommy and everyone on the staff and everyone in Washington and New York, they have done a great job over the last year. And all of our advertisers and our sponsors and our watchers and our viewers. ARROYO: I agree. INGRAHAM: Now they are called watchers. It has been a long year. We are going to be right back with my Thanksgiving message. INGRAHAM: Before I go, I want to give a heartfelt thanks to our veterans and to those men and women currently serving in our armed forces, deployed overseas, away from your families. And we are so thankful for everything you do for our country every day. Your sacrifices, many of them unsung. But we notice, and we salute you every day. You put your lives on the line for all of us. And you spend time away from your homeland and all of your friends and family. And we just thank you so much. Thanks for everything you do. Happy Thanksgiving. Load-Date: November 23, 2018 End of Document Trump Submits Written Answers to Mueller; Trump Reiterates Support for Saudi Arabia; Crisis at the Border; Media Hypocrisy Exposed; Breaking Down Midterm Election Results; Congressman Nunes Talks about the Fourth Batch of E-mails that Unveils the FBI Officials Who Knew Firsthand about the FISA Application to Surveil Carter Page; The Hill Reported that Christopher Steele Who Brought the Phony Dossier Was Not Really Vetted to be Called as an Expert on Russia; Senator Lindsey Graham Said that He Truly Believes that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman Knew about the Killing of Jamal Khashoggi and that MBS Probably even Ordered It; There's a Hot Debate Between Critics about Ivanka Trump Who Mistakenly Used Her Personal E-mail for Government Transactions, but a Lot are Saying that It is Not the Same as Hillary's Case where She Puts National Security in Jeopardy Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 20, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7663 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Jesse Watters, Jessica Tarlov Guests: Devin Nunes, John Solomon Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Thank you, Mark Stein. We appreciate it. Welcome to HANNITY. This is a massive news night. Stick with us. It will take the whole hour. The witch hunt, Mueller may soon be over. Today, the president, he submitted written answers to the special counsel's questions, and his attorneys are calling for Robert Mueller to wrap it up. A huge development, big win for the president and a crushing blow to the president's political opponents. We're going to bring you the very latest details all coming up tonight. Also, a total media freak out over something the president never did. And also is right about regarding Clinton and Comey. We also have an important message about what is the situation ongoing in Saudi Arabia. The president's comments today. And we are going to give you a HANNITY history lesson on America, at times having to deal with really evil, bad actors for reasons that make sense. And tonight, the turmoil at our southern border, dozens of migrants have now been arrested. Hundreds more are believed to be criminals, and gang members, and traffickers, others merely in search of a better life and economic opportunity. But all our now demanding passage into the U.S. and the people in Tijuana, they have just had it tonight. In moments, we are going to break down the risks and costs associated. What it means for you with illegal immigration. And we will expose tonight the mainstream media's hypocrisy -- it's stunning -- surrounding Ivanka, Comey, email, Hillary, hysteria. All the hypocrisy on that and also Michael Avenatti. Plus, now that the dust has settled, we are going to put the midterm results in perspective and tell you why the media never wants to talk about it. The big blue wave was a little ripple. We'll tell you why it didn't materialize, and we will show you how one failed Democratic gubernatorial candidate is becoming the world's worst sore loser. A lot to cover, it will take the full hour. Thanks for being with us. We start with our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Breaking just moments ago, we learned that President Trump has submitted written answers to the special counsel Robert Mueller and the president's attorney, Jay Sekulow, issued this statement. Quote: The questions presented dealt with issues regarding the Russia related topics of the inquiry. The president responded in writing. Rudy Giuliani adding, quote: It has been opposition from the outset that much of what has been asked raised serious constitutional issues and was beyond the scope of a legitimate inquiry. This remains our position today. The president has nonetheless provided unprecedented cooperation. The special counsel has been provided with more than 30 witnesses, 1.4 million pages of material and now, the president's written responses to questions. It is time to bring this inquiry to a conclusion. Make no mistake, huge win tonight for the president and his legal team. His attorneys were pushing for written answers. That means no subpoena fight, no subpoena before the grand jury, no in-person interview, no year- long fight headed towards the Supreme Court, no perjury traps, and keep in mind, these were all questions, none of them were about obstruction of justice. Why? Because there never was any, just like there was never a collision. Instead, Mueller focused on this Russia collusion and time and time again, the president has already answered these questions, denied any collision, any conspiracy, any coordination with any foreign government, especially Russia. So, now, this has just become a formality. After spending nearly 600 days, the investigation might soon finally be coming to an end. The media hysteria conspiracy theories -- well, they will just find something new to lie to you about. Now, if we really care about truth and equal justice in the United States today, well, tonight, the door is wide open. Hillary Clinton's bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier filled with Russian lies, rampant FISA fraud abuse committed using those bought and paid for Hillary Russian lies, literally fraud committed against judges to get subpoenas to get warrants against a Trump campaign associate Carter Page. And then after that, the coordinated leak efforts to literally lie to the American people, propagandize them, misinform them so that would influence the 2016 election. That all now needs to be investigated if we really care about Russia collusion, and equal justice under the law, and equal application of our laws. And tonight, the Mueller probe, that seems to be winding down, while "The New York Times" is reporting that Trump wanted to order the Department of Justice to prosecute James Comey and Hillary Clinton. Now, does that sound like breaking news to you? Because, it isn't, it shouldn't, and because we know how the president feels about Hillary and Comey, and we know Hillary committed crimes. It's not even in dispute. And, of course, the anti-Trump haters over on conspiracy TV MSNBC, and fake news CNN acting like they found it. They've been looking for two years and now they found it. Maybe they could have listened to his rallies that they wouldn't play when they were yelling "CNN sucks" and "lock her up". They would have learned something there. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CILP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is what happens in authoritarian countries, the president or leader orders the prosecution of his political enemies. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's a prima facie evidence of abuse of power. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is absolutely off the charts. Donald Trump is basically running his office like he's the head of a banana republic. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think this is a scandal at 15 on a 1 to 10 level. He was essentially trying to use the apparatus of the state to punish his political enemies. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He never did anything! Never, ever! It's a phony story, fake news. And when the story broke, by the way, we reached out to Gregg Jarrett for his reaction and he said, how is this even a story? He is right. He'll join us later with much more. Now, during the 2016 campaign, then-candidate Trump repeatedly said that he wanted Hillary Clinton prosecuted for her email servers scandal, and Clinton and Comey both should have been investigated. We only investigate Trump, I guess, in this political climate. He gave Hillary Clinton the nickname "crooked Hillary" for a reason. And let's be honest, she should have been prosecuted, the single, easiest obstruction of justice case, slam-dunk that I've ever seen in my life. You know, when you delete subpoenaed emails, acid washed the hard drive, Bleach Bit, hammers devices. And, by the way, Comey's actions legally need to have been looked into and should be. And when we come back also tonight later on in the program, we'll have Senator Graham joining us. He'll weigh in on all of it. Now, we turn to the situation with Saudi Arabia's crown prince. Now, pay close attention, this is going to be very hard for the liberals and the media to keep up with. I want them to pay very close attention. The murder of the Saudi journalist, Jamal Khashoggi, was reprehensible. That is evil. And I have little doubt that this evil act was carried out in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul at the direction of Saudi Arabia's crown prince known as MBS. On this program, frankly, and all the media, well, there is nobody that's been tougher on Saudi Arabia and nobody more consistent of my criticisms of Saudi Arabia for a whole host of reasons. I have been their loudest critic for good reason. I have called out Saudi Arabia's rampant human rights abuses, their complete lack of common decency. Saudi Arabia's treatment of women, they can't drive, up until recently, couldn't vote, and literally have to ask their husbands if they may travel abroad. Gay people are killed just for being who they are. Christians and Jews, oh, guess what, they are literally not allowed, you can't build a temple, you can't build a Christian church and they are persecuted in Saudi Arabia. And up until recently, women in Saudi Arabia couldn't do anything, you know, without being around the male guardian from their family or else they would get in trouble. And, by the way, women need permission for just about anything, even to marry, to work. Being gay is illegal, punishable by death. Christian churches and temples banned. Now, while the Clintons were more than happy to accept tens of millions of dollars. Now, think about this -- the Clintons took tens of millions of dollars to enrich themselves and their foundation from the Saudi kingdom. What did they get? They have never been this critical of Saudi Arabia, as critical we have been. I will call out evil wherever I see it. The murder of Jamal Khashoggi was evil. The world is an ugly, dangerous, complicated place. And today, President Trump, he issued this statement reaffirming America's strategic partnership with Saudi Arabia and had this to say with reporters at the White House that they took such umbrage with. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If you look at Iran, just take a look at Iran, and you look at what they are doing, they are a terrorist nation right now. Although, I must tell you, they are a lot better right now than they were when I took office. When I took office, they were heading in a very, very bad direction. And at some point, things very positive frankly could happen with Iran, but we also need a counterbalance. And Israel needs help also. If we abandon Saudi Arabia, it would be a terrible mistake. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The president is right and I want to explain in all specificity why this isn't about politics. As evil as this kingdom is as I have said over the years, the president is right. Saudi Arabia has now emerged at an important point in history as a partner in the Middle East. Let me explain this, and it brings us to a quick HANNITY history lesson. As a country, we have to make a lot of tough, very, very difficult strategic decisions, not like putting millions in your pocket like oh, the Clintons. And deal with a lot of immoral and in some cases evil international partners. I will give you one quick example, World War II. We struck alliances with Stalin, a mass murderer in Russia, the former Soviet Union. That evil dictator would go on to murder more people than Adolf Hitler, but the survivor of America and Europe was in jeopardy. And during the Cold War, we partnered with dozens of brutal dictators to violently squash the spread of the evils of communism. And now, Saudi Arabia is similarly, horrible regime, but there is a key alliance that is now in place, and that would be the United States and Israel, and Egypt, and Jordan, and also, let's see, the Saudis, and the Emirates. And what is the alliance against? Iranian homogeny. Iran is currently the world's number one state sponsor of terror. They are funding numerous proxy wars. And if the mullahs that chant "death to America", "death to Israel", and want to wipe Israel off the map, if they ever get nuclear weapons, millions and millions of people can die. So, we have to make a strategic decision. We can't take that risk. In fact, the current alliance -- again, the U.S., Israel, Jordan, Egypt, the UAE, the Saudis has a crucial -- they have been a crucial force in checking this Iranian hegemony. And this is the alliance we now need to stop these radical mullahs with their radical threats from ever getting their hands on nuclear weapons. Still, many on the left, they are in meltdown mode over the president's handling of Saudi Arabia. You know what? Where have they been? Former Obama U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power tweeting, quote, it is a mean and nasty world but Trump siding with the meanest and nastiest out there, whether, you know, al-Sisi, or Putin, or assassin MBS will leave the world even nastier. This statement is a green light for would-be murderers in countries that have things Trump things we need. How about a history lesson for you, Samantha. Maybe you forgot about your time in the Obama administration because it was Barack Hussein Obama who sent tanks, F-16 fighter jets, over $1 billion to a guy by the name of Mohammed Morsi, remember? He was with the radical Muslim Brotherhood that rose to power in Egypt. Mohammed Morsi, the guy who once referred to people in Israel and Jews as the descendants of apes and pigs and the Muslim Brotherhood also funding terrorism around the world. And, by the way, that's your boss, former boss, Obama, who partnered with them for no strategic reason. Obama gifted that guy billions of dollars, material support, planes, tanks, and cold hard cash. We can't forget that, yes, Obama also partnered with the radical Islamic mullahs in Iran, the number one state sponsors of terror, and a horribly flawed nuclear deal, the U.S. sent $1.7 billion in cash and other currency directly to the mullahs. Yes, the same people that plot the destruction of Israel and the United States on a daily basis, and thank God is instructing them to do it, and treat women and Christians and Jews and gays and lesbians the way they do. So, Susan Powers, spare us the faint, phony, selective moral outrage. And remember, as I pointed out earlier, Hillary Clinton totally ignored the Saudi Arabia treatment of women, gays, Christians and Jews for millions of dollars in cash because they bought her silence. She is never criticized the way we have regularly on this program. Today, with Iran now posing the single biggest threat to the United States, the Middle East, and the world, this strategic partnership with Saudi Arabia is too important, if at all possible, to dismantle. We can keep it together. It's smart. It's incredibly complicated, incredibly dangerous in the Middle East. And on top of that, the Saudis are spending hundreds of millions of dollars on weapons purchases that, by the way, both Russia and China wanted, and we got. And that means, what? We are going to make, let's see, Putin and the leaders of China rich again? I don't think that's a good idea to take Americans -- their jobs away from them. I'm not willing to do that. And do we want to help out, put a new alliance together? Let's see, the Iranians, the Syrians, China, and Putin and Russia? It's a dark, evil, ugly world at times. Far more complicated than what liberal networks that hate Donald Trump even, you know, taking a breath could ever possibly understand. All right. We have to turn to another situation closer to home. For weeks, we've been sounding the alarm about the massive caravan of migrants marching towards our southern border. We have tracked them through Central America as they broke down Guatemala's border fence, stormed into southern Mexico. We have followed this journey north towards the U.S. border and warned about possible gang and criminal infiltration. We showed you how the Trump administration prepared for the approaching caravan. Thousands of active-duty troops were sent to the border, razor wire was deployed to bolster the fencing, and new barriers were also constructed. And hardworking U.S. border patrol agents stepped their reconnaissance efforts up. A serious situation, but not according to the Democrats. Remember for a while they were ignoring the migrant caravan and accusing Republicans of fabricating this phony crisis in the lead-up to an election for political gain? Others called it all a conspiracy theory. Obama laughed at the idea, at one event he was speaking at. No, it's a real situation with real consequences. We now know our own DHS and leaders in Mexico saying that over 500 criminals are now traveling with the migrants, and according to a new report, law enforcement has even paid undercover informants to address security threats. By the way, that is called being smart. And yesterday, we saw in Tijuana, authorities having to arrest 34 members of that caravan for offenses like public intoxication, disturbing the peace, resisting arrest. But despite all of this, the federal judge yesterday in San Francisco, what a shock, dealt a blow to the president's border security efforts in the rule of law, striking down a temporary asylum ban on those who don't apply at a port of entry. See why holding the U.S. Senate and the president now campaigning and picking up seats for the first time in 100 years, a sitting president that gets the White House, is able to do this in his first midterm election. As I've been telling you, the majority of people just searching for a better life. I get that, but we have got to bet anybody who wants to come here. Five hundred criminals infiltrated, walking with the caravan people. It's even why Mexican people now are protesting the caravan and saying that they have even been invaded, and echoing President Trump's tough talk on the board appeared to take look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump was right. This is an invasion. What Donald Trump said was right. This is an invasion. This is what it is. And more caravans are coming. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: An invasion, oh. And, by the way, there are now thousands on our southern border. People on the left said they would never get there. Our national security is about more than just a security unvetted, unchecked, mass migration comes at a massive cost to you, we the people, the taxpayers. A new report published in "Forbes" exposing how you, the American people, pay for health care for illegal immigrants to the tune of $18.5 billion a year. And according to the Center for Immigration Studies, illegal border crossings are up, and comes with it, a massive price tag for the American people. We'll have a lot more on this developing situation also throughout the show. Now, tonight, the mainstream media is all but refusing to cover the crisis at the border. But instead, they are busy obsessing over Ivanka Trump. She briefly used a private email account, this goes back 15 months ago, to send and receive some that were work-related messages, talking about a few hundred emails, 15 months ago, she was new on the job, new to Washington, all of the emails have been handed over to the federal government. They are saying this is like Hillary, although they never criticized Hillary. Nothing has been deleted, a nonstory. No classified information. But Hillary Clinton, when she was conducting State Department business with a private email, and stored her email private in a bathroom mom-and-pop shop type company, many of those emails she sent and received were deemed top secret. She lied to us. We can prove the lie. Thousands of emails were deleted. Nobody had ever heard of Bleach Bit, but now we know what it is. And guess what, none of these were turned over to the federal government, and the media remained silent. They covered for their friends, the Clintons. And now, they are treating Ivanka like, you know, the nonstory like the biggest scandal of the century. What a bunch of phony hypocrites. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The arrogance, the incredible arrogance with a little measure of stupidity. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's possible she is considered a princess and totally separate from the rest of the rules the American government and the president, cabinet, and advisors go by. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When the new Congress gets sworn in, the House Oversight Committee, they need to seek nothing less of Ivanka Trump and her lawyer than the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They really are a mob family. They basically took what they were doing in the business, the Trump Organization, and brought it to the White House. They didn't care at all what the rules were and what they can and cannot do. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Yes, they didn't cover Hillary Clinton's crimes. We know she committed crimes. This is hypocrisy in action. This is why so many Americans don't trust the people in the media -- nor should do. It's destroy Trump every second, every minute, every hour, every day. And they are just hypocrites. Two weeks ago, remember, the media ignoring the story, James Comey was using private email for FBI business. Basically crickets. You didn't hear the same type of criticism. It's the same reason now members of the media now totally ignoring their former BFF, Michael Avenatti, for so many months he was the poster child on cable news, fake news CNN, conspiracy TV MSNBC, spreading vile claims against Justice Kavanaugh that they were spreading and believing. They believed. And guess what? He's now the left's -- all of a sudden, they changed their guilt by accusation motto. The new standard they created in America. Yet no one in the mainstream media, all of Avenatti's friends, they are pretty much silent and pretty much not saying anything. So what does that mean? It means the issue of sexual assault that is so serious, that is not what matters to them, because if it did, they wouldn't be best friends with the Clinton's, would they? They would not have worshiped the media or been worshiped by the media as they have been. And Keith Ellison would have been vetted and called out. The issue really seems to be important, a sexual assault or charges like this important only if they can bludgeon a Republican. Then there is no due process, there is no presumption of innocence. Where is all the outrage on these channels, their best friends? Now, if you are on the left, the rules don't apply to you. One set of gestures for them, and the guillotine pretty much for everyone else. And the mainstream media's postelection spin doesn't help either. The delusional liberals, the media, they are now trying to pull a fast ball on the American people saying Trump has been rejected. This has been a massive blue wave. His presidency has been contained by some imaginary blue wave. In historical terms, it was a trickle, with some Democrats refusing to even call the election legitimate in races that didn't go their way. We saw that in Georgia in the governor's race where Brian Kemp won. He won outright. But Stacey Abrams said Georgia did not have a free and fair election and Brian Kemp dismantled the democracy. Really classy. It sounds like a sore loserism. The Democrats did, of course, pull out some victories in the midterms. According to FOX's account, the Democrats, they won 232 seats in the House compared to 199 for the Republicans. Four races yet to be called. They picked up 37 seats for the Democrats, but they lost all those seats and Claire McCaskill is out, and Heitkamp is out, and Nelson is out, and Donnelly is out. Oh, yes. So, President Trump, if you actually look at numbers and history did considerably massively better the previous two Democratic presidents. 2010, Obama's first midterm. Dems lost 63 seats in the House, six seats in the Senate. '94, Bill Clinton lost 52 seats in the House and eight in the Senate. Now, bear in mind, the Republicans actually added to their Senate majority and, by the way, that number is likely to grow next week. An important election. If you are in Mississippi, that special election, November 27th. President Trump will be stumping for Cindy Hyde-Smith at a rally next Monday. As a matter of fact, two or three in her bid to become the first female senator from the great state of Mississippi. That is an important vote if you live there. This is a big race. A Republican victory means 53-47 in the Senate and further insure that Trump's agenda of a booming economy, strong national security, together immigration, and, of course, originalist, constitutionalist judges, and the appointments he wants goes forward. All right. We have a busy night, busy night as I told you. We have Congressman Devin Nunes, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, John Solomon, he has breaking news. We'll react to Trump submitting the written answers to Robert Mueller. Basically, that plane is landing without any turbulence, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. New developments on the Mueller probe tonight. President has submitted his written answers to the special counsel, signaling that the probe may be wrapping up. Here now with reaction from the World AG Expo in California is House Intelligence Committee chairman and that's California Congressman Devin Nunes. To me, the president has already answered those questions. It seems to me that not having a subpoena fight, he's not going to be testifying in public, seems to be wrapping up. But I would like to see the work that you have started, and Lindsey Graham, and Charles Grassley have started finished. Where are we with that? REP. DEVIN NUNES (R-CA), CHAIRMAN, HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: Thanks, Sean. What I would like to see with the Mueller probe is some kind of probe into Christopher Steele and the Clinton campaign and those Russians. That is what really disappointed me about all of all of this. Also, who leaked General Flynn's name? So, I don't think you really -- I mean, there was never any collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Sadly, you have half of the Democrats in this country that believed that somehow the Russians changed votes in the last election. And the people who have been spreading this poison ought to be ashamed of themselves. So, I'm glad that maybe this is coming to an end, but I will stress, I still don't believe it. I won't believe it until I see it. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Adam Schiff will never give it up. NUNES: Well, that's true. But to your question, I think there is some reluctance in the White House to actually -- to actually go out and release all the documents -- the four buckets as we call them -- the Carter Page FISA, the third renewal. We have the Bruce Ohr 302s. We have the exculpatory evidence, and now, we also have a fourth bucket of emails that the FBI was sending around that shows that clearly they knew what they were doing before they went to the FISA court. HANNITY: All right. Let me ask you the importance of this, because especially the fourth FISA, the third renewal signed by Rod Rosenstein, pages 10 to 12, 17 to 34, I've never read it, I would like to read it. The 302s, that's Christopher Steele, Bruce Ohr. The FISA applications themselves, you talked about the fourth bucket with the FBI. The president said that he would declassify and unredacted this. He still hasn't done it. How important is it and what would it do to mute whatever plans the never ending investigations, that, you know, the lie -- well, shifty Schiff has, you know, wants to go on? How would that mitigate what he is trying to do which is to make this go on till the end of history? NUNES: Well, what it does for us is it gives closure to the House Republicans and all the information that we have uncovered for the last two years. It would give finality to everyone who wants to know exactly what their government did to a political campaign. That's why we want this FISA out there. I always talk about this last FISA because people will learn about the insurance policy, they will finally learn the insurance policy that Strzok and Page put together-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What was the insurance policy? NUNES: -- to learn what it is. HANNITY: The Russia investigation? NUNES: So, if you were -- well, I actually don't think so. I think the insurance policy was, a lot of people thought that but what we believe the insurance policy is what is remaining in the last FISA that no one knows yet. So, it's what James Comey called a mosaic, the other facts that they have to go before the FISA court. We think that that should be-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: There is another FISA against another individual? NUNES: No, no, no. This is the same the Carter Page FISA. HANNITY: OK. NUNES: So, remember when we came out and said the bulk of the FISA was made up of the phony dossier and the fake news, and then you had all of these people scramble around and saying no, no, there was all this other information. Well, we went in and we began to look at other information and we found out that it too was not only phony but I think also-- HANNITY: Wow. NUNES: -- as concerning if not more concerning than the original information that was used in the Christopher Steele dossier. HANNITY: Well, I hope we will work with you. I am not giving up until all of those people that violated all of these laws and committed all of these lies to courts and misused their intelligence and spread Russian lies, real lies paid for by Hillary, are held accountable. Thank you, congressman. We also have another major story tonight about the deep state. John Solomon reporting for The Hill. Questions grow about the FBI vetting of Christopher Steele's Russia expertise. Solomon now joins us, along with Fox News contributor, Sara Carter, and author of the bestseller The Russia Hoax, Fox News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett. Let's start with your story, John Solomon. JOHN SOLOMON, VICE PRESIDENT, THE HILL: Yes. Listen, the more we learn about Christopher Steele the more the reason to doubt that he had any expertise whatsoever on Russia. We used his document to justify spying on a presidential candidate in the final weeks of an election. What I learned is that back in the beginning of his relationship with the Justice Department in 2016, he produced an intelligence document predicting that Vladimir Putin was losing his grip on power, he's about, he was on his way out the door. That hasn't turned out to be very good intelligence, has it? It's two years later and Vladimir Putin is firmly entrenched in power. There is a real question about whether they vetted his expertise and his sources and I think that that is going to become a big issue as to what Congressman Nunes just said. We used this dossier and we didn't know that it was really verified. I reported in my story, Jon Moffa, one of the key intelligence analysts inside the FBI told Congress recently, they were just beginning the process of verifying the dossier when it already showed up as being, quote, unquote, "verified and substantiated" in the FISA application. That's a complete abuse. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He's already committed as a fraud. It was presented as a truth. SOLOMON: That's violation of law there. SOLOMON: It's a real problem. HANNITY: Let me go to Gregg. So, New York Times, Trump wanted Clinton and Comey prosecuted. First of all, he never did. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Right. HANNITY: You know, I love the media getting all hyperventilating and in a state of whatever hysteria, as usual over something that never happened, but. JARRETT: Right. And the New York Times berries that in paragraph six, so you really have to read to get to the point of the fact that he never did it. How is this news to begin with? For three years the president has said Hillary Clinton broke the law, jeopardized national security, should be prosecuted, and he vowed to reopen the case. And when we learned James Comey lied to a FISA court and also stole government documents to trigger the Trump special counsel investigation, the president also said he should be investigated and prosecuted and warranted. So, you know, how is this news? And I'm glad you played the clip so people on CNN and MSNBC who said, this is an abuse of power by Trump. No, it is not. They are wrong. They are ignorant. HANNITY: As usual. JARRETT: Thomas Jefferson ordered the prosecution of Aaron Burr, John Kennedy encouraged his brother to prosecute the Mafia, and in fact, Barack Obama ordered his Department of Justice not to and defer prosecution of millions of people here illegally. The president has a constitutional duty to enforce the law and prosecute those who break it. HANNITY: Unbelievable. Sara, we got so much in terms of -- you back to the beginning with Hillary. Two weeks -- two weeks ago, the FBI director James Comey admitted he used private e-mail for FBI business. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: That's right. HANNITY: We barely heard a peep. (CROSSTALK) CARTER: We heard nothing. HANNITY: Hillary used an entire server. So, 15 months ago, nothing classified, new to government, Ivanka Trump had a couple hundred e-mails. You would think-- (CROSSTALK) CARTER: This is all political. Sean, this is all political. This is all playing politics. Ivanka Trump, this is a non-story. Hillary Clinton is the story. She destroyed her devices, she lied, she sent classified information on an unsecured server, which we know now based on intelligence was infiltrated by other state actors, there's other outside forces. China, Russia, who knows who else got a hold of these e-mails, and 33,000 disappeared, and a few of them are trickling out here and there that Judicial Watch was able to get a hands on. This is a flat-out joke. They keep perpetrating disinformation on the media to the American people and they don't hold the people accountable who actually broke the laws. HANNITY: All right, thank you all for being with us. By the way, Gregg Jarrett will be hosting on a 600 plus radio station, my radio show tomorrow. Have fun. Don't mess it up. Just kidding. He's done it before. When we come back, Lindsey Graham weighs in on the crisis at our southern border. Also, we'll get his reaction on the situation with Saudi Arabia. Stay with us. A lot of breaking news. And Jesse and Jessica were a tie last week, it was no -- it was my world, not theirs. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Big developments today with the migrant caravan amassing on our southern border. The A.P. reporting that Tijuana officials now have arrested 34 migrants on charges like drug possession, public intoxication, resisting the police. Meanwhile, an activist judge in San Francisco temporarily blocking the administration's policy of denying asylum to migrants who cross the border illegally. here with reaction, South Carolina Senator, Lindsey Graham. You know, it was interesting. Now that they were saying that Republicans were only saying this to scare people before the election. It's real. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Right. HANNITY: Ask the people in Tijuana that say that they feel like they have been invaded. But it's now here. And I want to get your reaction. How do we handle this? GRAHAM: Well, number one, if it weren't for Fox News you wouldn't know that people in Tijuana have had a problem with this. The people there are pushing back hard. So, under our law, if we come here illegally you can still seek asylum and once you make an asylum application, it takes months for it to get through. We wind up releasing you into the country. This is nuts. So, I'm going to introduce legislation early in the next Congress to make sure that if you come here illegally you can never apply for asylum. President Trump is right to change his policy and we'll see what happens. HANNITY: Yes. All right. Let me turn to another. I have your statement on Saudi Arabia. I don't think there has been anyone in the media more critical more regularly for more years-- (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: That's for sure. That's for sure. HANNITY: -- than me of Saudi Arabia. How they treat women, gays, lesbians, Christians and Jews are persecuted. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: With that said, I think MBS did know, and probably order the killing of this Jamal Khashoggi. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: Here's the problem we have. World War II we had to align with a mass murder by the name of Joseph Stalin to defeat Hitler. GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: We didn't like that alliance, either. Right now, we have a historic moment where U.S., Israel, Egypt, Jordan, the Emirates, the Saudis are now perfectly aligned against Iranian hegemony and the threats of them getting a nuclear weapon with their radical ideology of wanting to destroy the world and America and Israel. GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: I think there should be -- I agree with you about sanctions, I agree there needs to be a punishment, but I also agree with the president-- GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: -- that we should not end this relationship. GRAHAM: Yes. And I'm not talking about ending the relationship. Everything you said is true about the strategic nature of the relationship, but here's what I believe. Saudi Arabia needs as more than we need them. It's not too much to ask an ally not to butcher a guy in a consulate. This is not World War II, so I am not going to look away at what MBS did. I think he did it, I think he is-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I do, too. GRAHAM: -- absolutely crazy about what he's done in the Mideast. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And, you know, also a danger, though-- GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: -- that we push him into the arms he would buy, he would have more strategic alliances, we drove him into the arms of Putin, Iran, Syria, and China? GRAHAM: Well, I'll be honest with you, Sean. There is no way no way Saudi Arabia is ever going to align with Iran, they are mortal enemies. If they want to, you know, balance from Russia, fine. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I got it. GRAHAM: The bottom line here is, I care about the strategic relationship. I'm going to support Israel completely but I'm not going to turn my back on this guy. We've got a historic opportunity here to tell the people in the Mideast there is a new sheriff in town. If you disrespect us and you trample over civilized norms, you're going to pay a price. If you want to keep MBS, that is your decision to make, Saudi Arabia. As long as you make that decision, you have a hard time with me. If you want to replace him with somebody who is not crazy, that would be a good move. HANNITY: Yes, I agree with you wholly. All right. A it goes with the president-- (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: It's not complicated for me. I like Saudi Arabia-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: No, it's not complicated either for me. GRAHAM: -- but this guy is crazy and he needs to go. HANNITY: But there is some -- I actually really believe we have a moment in history that never existed before. This strategic alliance-- (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: Totally. HANNITY: -- would actually be-- GRAHAM: Totally, 100 percent. HANNITY: -- the moment where we find peace in the Middle East. GRAHAM: Yes, maybe. HANNITY: And the Iranians are far too dangerous. We cannot allow that moment to come when they have nukes. Let me ask you. So now the-- (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: Yes. Radical Islam with a nuclear weapon is really dangerous. HANNITY: Yes. That's a bad scenario. A.G., who would you like to see? GRAHAM: I don't really -- Mr. Barr is good, I like Mr. Ludick (Ph), there are a lot of good choices. I would like to see somebody in place next year that can guide the Justice Department in a new direction. I think Jeff Sessions had to go. The president was right to replace him. I like Mr. Whitaker, fine, but I don't think he's the permanent solution. I promise your viewers, if I am the chairman of the judiciary committee, we're going to find about -- find out about the FBI the way they got a FISA warrant against Carter Page. I think the special counsel should been appointed yesterday. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Go ahead. All right. Last question-- GRAHAM: A hundred percent. HANNITY: How important is Mississippi this last-- (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: You know, if the shoe were on the other foot, they would be crucifying us right now if this was a warrant issued against a Hillary Clinton sympathizer. I mean, I cannot believe the double standard of our friends in the media if shoe on the other foot. This is somebody that, you know, that hated Trump, and we were going after a Clinton person like this, it would be front-page news all over the place. To your listeners, we're not going to ignore the rule of law. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How important is Mississippi? I got to go. GRAHAM: We are going to find out where it goes. HANNITY: All right. How important is Mississippi, and then I got to roll. The Senate race. GRAHAM: If you care about judges, and you care about tax cuts, you care about a strong military, vote for the Republicans. The Democrats is going to take us backward, the Republicans will keep us on track. HANNITY: All right. Thank you for being with us, Lindsey Graham. Have a happy Thanksgiving. Coming up, Jesse and Jessica, no winner last week. They will take on the media freak out and double standard and hypocrisy over the Ivanka Trump so- called female controversy nonstory. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. The left predictably spinning out of control over Ivanka terms e-mails. Now a lawyer blasting the quote, "misinformation being peddled," and clarified that Ivanka never created a private server, never transmitted classified information, hasn't deleted any e-mails, and by the way, this is when she first started 15 months ago. Here to talk about this and more, co-host of The Five, and the host of Watters World, two shows, Jesse Watters, and Fox News contributor, Jessica Tarlov. JESSICA TARLOV, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Zero shows. HANNITY: Everyone is comparing it to something it's not, Jessica. See how intellectually honest you are. And that is, this is a 15 months ago, no classified information, no bleach bit, no acid washing, no deletions, no hammers, no devices. Big difference. TARLOV: Big difference but still a big deal, no? JESSE WATTERS, FOX NEWS HOST: No. HANNITY: No, I don't think so. TARLOV: She knew exactly what she was doing, she spent a couple years listening to her father chant lock her up because Hillary Clinton had used an illegal private server-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You're losing already. TARLOV: -- that mishandle her e-mails, so why isn't Ivanka to blame for this? you got to admit it was a mistake, an unforced error, she shouldn't have done it. Say it right here. HANNITY: OK. WATTERS: But I don't think Ivanka ever put national security in jeopardy. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: You don't know actually. Trey Gowdy is going to find out. WATTERS: She never said any classified e-mails. Listen, the FBI is not investigating it because it's not a national security threat. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Congress will be. WATTERS: And she didn't also acid wash the e-mails and delete 30,000 of them after they were under subpoena. So, she didn't have any of her friends plead the fifth, and she didn't smash anything with a hammer. These were incidental e-mails that she sent from a private account. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Why did she do it? WATTERS: Sending about her child schedule ad about transportation. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: You don' know what it's about. You haven't read them. Then all of Hillary's e-mails were all about yoga? WATTERS: No. TARLOV: There we go we agreed. WATTERS: And also, about Chelsea's wedding. Remember, these were about the-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Well, that was a big event in their lives. WATTERS: You think this is a big deal, it's not. TARLOV: I don't. WATTERS: You're trying to land punches. This is about the Washington Post trying to drum some scandal up so they can tip off the House investigations committee in order to investigate the president. HANNITY: All right. TARLOV: I don't think so. HANNITY: Let me move onto another issue. Hang on. I want to bring up this Avenatti issue. Look, he deserves due process and the presumption of innocence, that which he wouldn't give Judge Kavanaugh. But these allegations, we are talking about a felony, domestic abuse, and the person says, the accuser says, he hit her, dragged her across the floor, called her an f-ing b-word, et cetera, et cetera. Now, I don't know if any of this is true. TARLOV: Right. HANNITY: I actually hope and pray it's not. TARLOV: Of course not. HANNITY: But the left seems to only care about guilt by accusation when it's a Republican that they can bludgeon, like they did an innocent man, Judge Kavanaugh. Otherwise they wouldn't be such great friends with the Clintons, they would be so outspoken about Keith Ellison, and all of a sudden nobody has a word to say about Mr. P.P. himself, Avenatti. It's the hypocrisy, Jessica. Do they care about the issue that's so serious about a sexual assault, and the abuse of women-- TARLOV: Yes. HANNITY: -- or do they just care about the politics? TARLOV: No, they absolutely do care about the issue of sexual assault and the abuse of women, that's why Al Franken no longer has Senate seat. (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: Then why are they so quite-- TARLOV: Jesse, I had two seconds, give me another second. WATTERS: OK. Go ahead. TARLOV: I don't think that they have been quiet here, and for you to say that everyone was a fan of his, I know that he got a lot of segments on TV, he was even here on our own network with Tucker calls him the creepy porn lawyer, or whatever. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. Last word, Jesse. TARLOV: It's a (Inaudible) deal but no one is an Avenatti fan certainly on this panel and you are not going to hear any defense of it. HANNITY: Jesse? WATTERS: I would say that he has totally disqualified himself, he has blown himself up. I believe innocent until proven guilty but you never touch a woman, and the media is so silent it shows how hypocritical they are. If it was a Republican that was accused of doing this, it would be all over. HANNITY: I just-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: It is all over! HANNITY: I want everybody to look at this moment, like Duke Lacrosse, like UVA, like Ferguson, like Cambridge, like Baltimore, like, you know, Treyvon Martin. Everyone needs to stop rushing to judgment. I reach a duel. And Avenatti deserves the presumption of innocence and due process. All right, thank you both. By the way, it's Jesse's world tonight on substance alone. When we come back, Rush weighs in on the hysteria about a Ivanka's e-mails. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. We close with Rush Limbaugh's take on the Ivanka e- mail non-scandal. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: I'm not going to talk about Ivanka Trump's e-mail until it is proven. It is proven that she created a secret e-mail server and put it in her home, preferably in the bathroom to hide a pay for play scheme. And then trying to destroy it when subpoenaed. I'm not going to talk about Ivanka Trump and her e-mails until somebody shows me that what she did got anywhere even close to what Hillary Clinton did. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right, checkmate, Rush. All right, that's all the time we have. We'll always be fair and balanced. Let not your heart be troubled. Load-Date: November 21, 2018 End of Document Did Media War with White House Backfire?; Trump Sends Written Answers to Mueller; Is Russia Investigation on Last Leg?; "New York Times:" Trump Wanted to Order Department of Justice to Prosecute James Comey and Hillary Clinton; Mueller Questions Beyond Scope of Legitimate Inquiry; White House Lays Out New Rules for Reporters; White House Restores Jim Acosta's Hard Pass, Outlines New Rules for Journalist; No Comedian for D.C.'s Nerd Prom this Year; White House Correspondent's Dinner Featuring Author Instead of Comedian this Year; Trump: We are with Saudi Arabia; Senator Calls Trump Statement "Saudi Arabia First;" Circuit Judge Blocks President Trump Executive Order Restricting Asylum Seekers to Ports of Entry; Student at U.C. Berkeley Draws Controversy over Comments on LGBTQ Community; Some Actors Calls for Boycotting Georgia in Wake of Gubernatorial Election Criticized Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 20, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8021 words Byline: Mike Huckabee, Kevin Cork, Juan Williams, Dan Bongino, Jeffrey Lord, Kristin Fisher, Walid Phares Guests: John Sale, David Tafuri, Rebecca Heinrichs, Francisco Hernandez, Art Arthur, Isabella Chow, Anthony Sabato Jr. Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: And then trying to destroy it. I'm not going to talk about Ivanka Trump and her emails until somebody shows me that what she did got anywhere even close to what Hillary Clinton did. (END VIDEO CLIP) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Checkmate. Rush, that is all the time we have, we will always be fair and balanced. Let not you heart be troubled. Governor Mike Huckabee is filling in for Laura. You did a great job last week. It is great to see a governor and it is always good to see you. MIKE HUCKABEE, FOX NEWS HOST: Well, thank you Sean. Have a great thanksgiving, it is a pleasure to be here for Laura and you and your family have a great time. HANNITY: Wait. Here's the thing, remember when the media was questioning whether Sarah, your daughter makes pies? I know for a fact she does. As a matter of fact, I wish I was at your house eating them on thanksgiving. HUCKABEE: I can attest to the fact that she makes them and they are fantastic. It is a typical southern woman's pie, but let me tell you something, never ever question the authenticity of a southern woman's pie. It is going to be trouble. HANNITY: Spew and I agree. By the way, who would want that job? She doesn't amazing job every day. We are always glad to see you. Thank you governor, have a great show tonight. HUCKABEE: Thank you very much. And good evening everyone. I'm Mike Huckabee. I'm in for Laura Ingraham tonight and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. A big show you for you tonight at the White House press corps, the war with the Trump administration might just backfire. In a moment we will explain how two recent decisions point to a new reality for the media. Plus, the President is under siege over critics over his response to the Saudi Arabia killing of Jamal Khashoggi. An all-star foreign policy panel will tell us why, despite his critics, Trump had no choice, but first. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The witch hunt has been going on forever. No collusion, no nothing. They finish them yesterday. The lawyers have them. I assume they will turn them in today or soon. (END VIDEO CLIP) HUCKABEE: Shortly after the President deliver that statement on his way to Mar-a-Lago, it was indeed confirmed that the President and his attorney officially responded to special counsel Robert Mueller's team. The president's lawyer Rudy Giuliani added, and I quote, it is been our position from the outset that much of what has been asked raised serious constitutional issues and was beyond the scope of the legitimate inquiry. This remains our position today. End quote. So, is this probe now finally, finally, finally on its last leg? For more on what the White House is thinking tonight, we go live to Kevin Cork, who was traveling with the President in Palm Beach. Kevin, I know you are suffering down there in Palm Beach. Tell us what's up. KEVIN CORK, FOX NEWS, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Yes, what are he going to do about it? Hey Governor, great to be with you, and wonderful to have you on the program. Happy thanksgiving to you and certainly your family. I can just tell you this, the White House remains resolute and determined that this probe is going to end one way or the other, sooner preferably than later. I can also tell you that they continue to insist that there was never ever any Russian collusion. And we've talked about that at length. And so the obvious question becomes now, what happens as we move into the next phase with the special counsel? The ball is clearly in Robert Mueller's court and there are frankly governor, a number of different directions he could choose to go in, because despite the White House has frustration, this probe will continue until it reaches a natural end or the acting A.G. puts the brakes on it. So the question becomes, where we go from here? Well, the Mueller team could review the President's answers that you just talked about and they could simply ask for more information. They could review those answers again and then prepared to simply disclose the report that we all figure is just about wrapped up. Meanwhile, compare his answers with other respondents and that is where things could get a little interesting if not thorny. And then ultimately, the nuclear option they could choose to subpoena the President of the United States. Now, let's be clear about this, governor. Sources tell Fox News that while the President's legal team remains open, and I'm using air quotes to a possible sit down with the special counsel. No one, repeat no one, believes that will happen without a subpoena. Even if it were to happen, I don't think there is any question, it would spark a constitutional crisis. Something will be keeping a very close eye on, but for now, enjoy the holiday week. Mike, back to you. HUCKABEE: Thank you Kevin. And you enjoy your thanksgiving as well. Even in Palm Beach. Well here with more, Attorney John Sale, he served as special assistant counsel at the Watergate trial, he was under Archibald Cox and Leon Jaworsky. Also with me Juan Williams, Fox news political analyst and cohost of The Five and Dan Bongino, former secret service agent and host in our ATV. John, I want to start with you. We have these answers now. They been submitted. Is there a timeline that you can sort of give us an insight into? JON SALE, FORMER SPECIAL ASSISTANT COUNSEL AT THE WATERGATE TRIAL: Well, nobody has a timeline, but I think -- let's put it in context, I don't think and I argued it in an article I wrote in the hill, I don't think that the special counsel is entitled to any answers from a person they are investigating. I mean, I represent people all the time who were being investigated. We never give a statement and prosecutors to their job. They continue with their thorough investigation, they draw their conclusions without the benefit of answers from the President or the investigating. I think you're getting more than they ordinarily would and in this case they you can write a report. The office of legal counsel has said they cannot indict the Presidents. So, after over a year, after over a million documents, after -- I think it is 35 witnesses with the President did not assert any privilege. Is it time for them to write the report and let the court of public opinion decide whether or not there was collusion? HUCKABEE: OK, so, Juan do you want to give me the contrarian opinion as to why they should keep going on and on like the energizer bunny for heaven's sakes? JUAN WILLIAMS, FOX THE FIVE SHOW HOST: No Mike. I am all for wrapping it up. Obviously this is not of the length that we saw in terms of prior prosecutors investigating president. Those go on for five years or more. So we're coming up on two years here. And so I don't think that is the reason. Although I would prefer given that we will see a lot of you know, excitement around the 2020 election that somehow this gets out of the way. I prefer that. I will say that I was taken aback by the effort by Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer to limit the scope of the investigation by saying, we are not going to answer any questions about obstruction. I heard what was being said, hey you don't have to answer anything. That is fine, but the President has long said that he has nothing to hide. And then the later issue is, that "The New York Times" today broke a story saying the President was suggesting to the White House counsel that somehow the Department of Justice go after Jim Comey. Go after Hillary Clinton, in other words, punish his political opponents. Boy, that sure seems like obstruction. I don't know anything about what is in the Mueller report obviously. I don't know about collusion, I don't have any evidence of that prior me. But boy, that sure strikes me as a man who is trying to obstruct an investigation because he worries that he is in deep water. HUCKABEE: Yes. Dan, you know, if that happened, my gosh that would almost be as bad as when Obama went after people through the IRS and the Justice Department. We had wiretaps on James Rosen and his parents in the Associated Press. And to Juan's point about limitation of the investigation, let's talk about that a minute. Because as I recall the only thing that was supposed to be investigated was whether or not Donald Trump colluded with Russia. That was the limitation of the investigation. This thing has continued to go on and on. Dan, I would like you to weigh in and tell me. You know, if that is a limitation, is this about over? DAN BONGINO, NRATV CONTRIBUTOR: I always enjoy the company of my good friend Juan and you, governor. But Juan, I don't know how you said that with a straight face. Are you seriously making the case that targeting your political opponents which was in that "New York Times" story is all of the sudden this malicious thing while simultaneously we know that Trump team was spied on by the Obama administration? Juan. WILLIAMS: Wait a minute. What is that about? We know that in fact, when Trump said there was a wiretap on Trump tower. Everyone said that is not true. BONGINO: Juan, do know the name Stephan Halper? He was a central intelligence agency, intelligence asset that was utilized against a Trump team. You know how I know that, Juan? Because he actually emailed people in the Trump team. The emails -- I don't know if you miss that. But that is out there. That was he's famous outed in "The New York Times" with a said everything, but his name. So, I just find it bizarre that you would say, oh, my gosh, this is offensive. Trump allegedly targeted his political opponents as you completely ignore the fact that the Obama administration actually did target their political opponents. That is not open for disputes. That actually happen. WILLIAMS: Dan, hold on. I think what you are saying is that when the Obama administration knew of Russia interfering in 2016, they may have approved somebody saying, hey what is going on here? That is not punishing your political opponent. That to someone in office acting like an authoritarian. They are obstructing the instruments of criminal justice to go after your political opponent. BONGINO: Juan, listen. Again, I'm sorry but you're just not familiar with the details of the case. The Deputy Director of the FBI himself Juan, said there would've been no Russian collusion case without the dossier. The dossier has been debunked. None of it is true. It is nonsense. WILLIAMS: What do you mean it is not true? Let me just quickly say -- HUCKABEE: I'm going to have to jump in. I'm doing this immensely. Juan, Dan, I've enjoyed this immensely. But I want to thank you and Jon, all for being here. But I had to let you go. Get your turkey cook. Thank you. I'm going to turn now to the ongoing battle between CNN and the White House. CNN celebrated their legal victory when Jim Acosta got his press pass reinstated. But what does it mean for everybody else? Byron York writing yesterday, said and I quote, the Acosta decision could make it easier for White House officials to kick reporters out. End quote. Joining me now to discuss his former White House press secretary, and senior adviser to the America first action pack, Sean Spicer. Along with former Ronald Reagan aid and author of the forthcoming book, Swamp pores, Jeffrey Lord. All right. Gentlemen, let's talk about the new rules of White House has laid out for reporters. Actually will they be followed by Acosta and his colleagues in the press room? Plus, is the White House going to need to come up with a maybe three strikes and you're out plan. Sea, your view on this new announcement of the White House? SEAN SPICER, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Well, governor, it is great to see you. I think, I talked about this and my podcast with Kellyanne Conway. This is a discussion about content versus conduct. And I think there is a very capable press secretary that is right now able to discern the difference between the two. No one has a question about the content of any reporter's question. They can ask whatever they want. But their conduct is what is in question. I think that is what the judge ruled the other day. Will they behave in a way that is professional? Will they respect not just the office of the presidency, but their fellow reporters? And I think that is what this really comes down to. I think there is a great press secretary now. You may know her. That knows how to call balls and strikes. And there is a President who knows how to understand that as well. And I think this is what it comes down to. Were other organizations, no names mentioned, but you may guess them are trying to blur the lines is the question about what the content is. No one cares what the reporter asks. They can ask whatever questions they want. But the way these reporters conduct themselves, did they conduct themselves and show respect not only to their fellow reporters, but to the President of the United States, and the White House is what is in question. HUCKABEE: Jeffrey, the judge ruled in a rather narrow way. He did not say that the first amendment was in any way being attacked by Jim Acosta losing his hard pass. It was just the process was not fully visible to the world. And therefore his Fifth Amendment issue was the only one. But they celebrated as if somehow they had taken a stand for democracy. I don't remember any of the mainstream media being really that clever, clear and honest about what that ruling was from the judge last week. JEFFREY LORD, TRUMP SUPPORTER CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Yes. You are absolutely right, governor. And Sean has hit the nail on the head. This is about conduct. Not about content. You know in the last couple of days we have heard from Major Garrett nor with CBS. In the Obama days of course, he was the White House correspondent for Fox. No one remembers Major Garrett acting like Jim Acosta. That is because he didn't. There was a way to do this. Sean has been the White House press secretary, I had been a press secretary to a senator and a congressman before that. This is totally unprofessional stuff. I think that CNN has to be very careful here of what they wish for. Because now, if there's going to be a set of rules and regulations, the good press secretary that Sarah is, she will call them out. One other thing, I took a quick look back at a memory from childhood of JFK's press conferences. Where he had adversarial reporters. They were so well mannered, governor. It is beyond belief. We've gone so far down the path and in the wrong direction with these stuff. It is almost unbelievable and I think CNN and Jim Acosta will come to regret it and so will their compadres in the room. HUCKABEE: I want to get your thoughts on the fact that the White House correspondent association have announced it is not going to have a comedian wrote the media next year, which is known as the annual nerd prom. Instead they will have biographer Ron Tarnow is going to be the featured speaker to put some perspective on today's politics and history. Last year speaker, Anti-Trump comedian Michelle Wolf tweeted this in response. She said, and I quote, the White House correspondent association are cowards. The media is complicit. And I couldn't be prouder. End quote. First of all, I am not sure they had a comedian last year. That Michelle Wolf and she just wasn't funny. So Sean, what is your response to the fact that the correspondents association for the first time in decades has decided that they're not going to have that kind of -- I would say, lack of political humor going on? SPICER: You know what. Here's my response, I applaud Olivia Knox and the White House correspondent association for doing this. They want to have a dinner that celebrates the first amendment. It actually shows that that is what their intent is. So I applaud them for it. Because last year they wanted to have a comedian and they talked about how this comedian, Michelle Wolf would conduct herself and talk about the first amendment. And it wasn't. It was rude, it was disgusting. I think for them to at least acknowledge the fact that they want to talk about the first amendment and have a historian do it. I don't know what these individuals are going to talk about, but I think at least their intent is right. And I will give them credit for that, because last year's dinner was disgusting. And what I thought was more appalling about the dinner and anything is that they branded it as about the first amendments. The comedian, if that is what you call her, wasn't that. And no one in the White House correspondent, from NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, said anything about the way that this person so called conducted themselves in the quote of spirit of the first amendments. So, to see them at least acknowledge that that wasn't the right direction is at least something that I want to applaud and say, at least you got the message. HUCKABEE: Well, we will see how it works out. Jeffrey, Sean, great to have you both. Happy thanksgiving. LORD: Thank you governor. SPICER: Thanks. Happy thanksgiving. HUCKABEE: You bet. Straight ahead, Trump's critics are lashing out over his response to Saudi Arabia today in a wake of the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Up next, our panel will explain why he might have sided with the lesser of two evils. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: The fact is maybe he did and may be didn't. We are with Saudi Arabia. We are staying with Saudi Arabia. And by the way, just so everyone knows, I have no business whatsoever with Saudi Arabia. It is all about for me -- very simple, it is America first. Saudi Arabia, if we broke with them, I think your oil prices would go through the roof. I've kept them down. It is a very simple equation for me. I'm about to make America great again. I'm about America first. (END VIDEO CLIP) HUCKABEE: That was a President earlier today addressing his decision not to further punish Saudi Arabia after the killing of Jamal Khashoggi. For more on what the White House and the critics are saying tonight, let's go to Kristin Fisher, she is live in Washington. KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, President Trump says there'll be no further repercussions against Saudi Arabia because he believes a good U.S., Saudi Arabia relationship is simply more important. He is putting business opportunities and security alliances over this human right abuse. The murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. The decision comes despite a report that the CIA believes that the Saudi crown prince did order the killing. But President Trump said today, that he is standing by the Saudis. Here's why. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: I'm not going to tell the country that spending hundreds of billions of dollars, and to do one thing very importantly, keep oil prices down so that they're not going to a 150 dollars a barrel. I'm not going to destroy the world's economy and I'm not going to destroy the economy for our country by being foolish with Saudi Arabia. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: But the president's decision is being denounced by members of both parties on Capitol Hill. Even by some of his closest allies. Republican Senator Lindsey Graham said, I fully realized that we have to deal with bad actors and imperfect situations on the international stage, however when we lose our moral voice, we lose our strongest asset. And Senator Rand Paul said, I'm pretty sure this statement is Saudi Arabia first and not America first. In that statement President Trump said the Congress is free to go in a different direction if it so chooses. Indeed tonight, Senator Graham said that he believes there will be strong bipartisan support for serious sanctions again Saudi Arabia, Mike. HUCKABEE: Thank you Kristin. Joining me now with reaction, Walid Phares the foreign policy advisor from Donald Trump's 2016 campaign. David Tafuri, the former Obama campaign foreign policy advisor and former state department official. As well as Rebecca Heinrichs, senior fellow at the Hudson Institute. Let's talk about this. Good or bad move on the President's part? WALID PHARES, FOX NEWS FOREIGN POLICY EXPERT: I think the President is basically telling us that the national security, the high interest of the United States basically tells us that we need to maintain the strategic relationship with Saudi Arabia. But at the same time, there needs to be an investigation. And I think if you want to be fair in America and around the world, that investigation should be comprehensive all the way. If there are other crimes, we've heard that before. So I think on the one hand, maintaining the strategic relationship with the Saudis to contain the Iranians and to make sure that we are continuing to fight against the jihadists and ISIS is the right thing to do. And the investigation should be separate from politics and go all the way. HUCKABEE: Rebecca it does seems that this can't be just a binary choice. It is either the Saudis are the Iranians. If something does something bad, even if they are our friends, but we need to do something to say that this has to be seriously dealt with? A systematic murder of journalist, that is pretty serious. REBECCA HEINRICHS, SENIOR FELLOW, HUDSON INSTITUTE: Mike, I think that the President actually is being prudent here. It is not a binary choice as you said, but we have sanctions, 17 Saudis. The king of Saudis Arabia has identified who is responsible for Jamal Khashoggi murder. But the President has decided that we have to look at the context. That does security relationship between the United States and Saudi Arabia. There are couple of major things we have to keep in mind. Saudi Arabia is critically important for the global energy market. Even as the U.S. becomes energy independent, our allies still rely on petroleum that comes from Saudi Arabia. Especially as we sanction Iran, we need that oil keep flowing from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia also helps us keep in those energy choke points open. The Iranians don't have a monopoly on those. And then of course, their helping the United States in pushing back Iranian aggression generally in the region. It is such a critical relationship. And so I think the President really threads the needle carefully and balancing the human rights concern of Khashoggi's murder and also taking into consideration, first and foremost that the priority which is the security of Americans. HUCKABEE: David, President Trump is not the first President that has had a cozy relationship with the Saudis. To my knowledge, all the Presidents, Democrats and Republicans have sometimes, I think too cozy with the Saudis. Even after 9/11 when we really didn't call their hand after the reality was that they were highly connected to the folks who were guilty of 9/11. So, is President Trumps any different than the other Presidents? Democrats and Republican who have kind of look the other way at the atrocities of the Saudis? DAVID TAFURI, FORMER STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Well, that is a fair criticism against all of our Presidents. But this was a serious provocation. The world is watching to see what America is going to do. And what America needs to do is two things. We have to send a message to the world that we won't tolerate this kind of behavior and there will be repercussions for it. At the same time, we have to preserve our alliance with Saudi Arabia, because it is important ally. So to punish them and make them say they are sorry and make them do the things they will never do this again so other countries also don't do it, but also preserve that alliance. That is important. Now President Trump was doing an OK job of that, but it went off the rails today with his public statements. You saw some of them in the previous reporting, he also put out a written statement. It looks like he wrote it himself. It starts out saying that the world is a dangerous place. That is not an appropriate way to start a foreign policy statements. It sounds like he is saying, he can't protect us from the types of thugs that Saudi Arabia has sent to kill this journalist, Khashoggi. That is not appropriate. American values are not for sale. You heard Trump talking about how that is it is more important that we be able to sell arms to Saudi Arabia than we stand up for rule of law and that we stand up for human rights. That is not right. He needs to go back to the original attack, which is we will punish Saudi Arabia, but we will preserve a relationship with the king. We will encourage them to make sure everyone who is responsible, no matter how high it goes up, everyone who is responsible is punished. HUCKABEE: I did some quick answers from each of you. Let me start with Walid with you. What are the Presidents options? What should he do? If you're whispering in his ear tonight, what would you tell him he has got to do? PHARES: It is very simple. On one hand, continue with the investigation. We've had investigations in the past like with the killing of the former Prime Minister of Lebanon Hariri that are 13 years from now. So we have to be very serious about these investigations. On the one hand, these sanctions should target those who are responsible enough to engage in geopolitical mistakes by engaging more influence of the Iran and Yemen or another part of the region. So we have to be very careful. Distinguishing between the legal process and the geopolitical process. HUCKABEE: Rebecca, very quickly. Just a simple answer. Does this hurt the President with members of his own Party? HEINRICHS: I don't think that it showed. I think the president is being completely realistic with the cards that he has been dealt. He should continue to pressure the Saudis privately and we should continue to hope and to push that the young prince to move towards reform. He has shown an interest in having a softening relationship with Israel. That is a critical ally. We need to continue to cultivate that relationship and pressure on where we can, so that it is useful. HUCKABEE: And David, is this a good or bad message to the Iranians? TAFURI: Well, the Iranians like this. They want to see a division between Saudi Arabia and the U.S. We have to shoe that we are going to keep that alliance in place and we are going to continue to confront Iran, but we are going to curb this kind of conduct with Saudi Arabia. Let's see what our CIA says about who is responsible. The President should work with her intelligent agency and with Congress to come up with a resolution that is going to punish Saudi Arabia but preserve the alliance. HUCKABEE: Thank you all. David, Walid, Rebecca, have a great thanksgiving. Coming up, the small handful of leftist's judges be making decisions that adversely affect all of America? Wait till you hear how an Obama appointed judge, just up in the president's emergency restrictions on asylum claims. That debate is coming up next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: People should not be allowed to immediately run to this very friendly circuit and file a case. It is a disgrace. In my opinion, it is a disgrace what happens to the ninth circuit. (END VIDEO CLIP) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You go to the ninth circuit and it is a disgrace. And I'm going to put in a major complaint, because you cannot win if you are us a case in the ninth circuit. And I think it's a disgrace. This was an Obama judge. And I'll tell you what, it's not going to happen like this anymore. (END VIDEO CLIP) HUCKABEE: That was President Trump taking aim at the liberal ninth circuit and one judge in particular, U.S. district judge, Jon S. Tigar, who was nominated by President Obama back in 2012. Judge Tigar issued a nationwide injunction against Trump's newly announced emergency restrictions on asylum claims. This means anyone seeking asylum can do it anywhere they want. That's instead of the ports of entry that the Trump administration sought to restrict it to. To debate this topic is Francisco Hernandez, immigration attorney, and Art Arthur from the Center for Immigration Studies. Art, let's start with you. This is basically saying, come on in any way you can. That seems a little dangerous to sort of change the rules of how people seeking asylum get into the country. ART ARTHUR, CENTER FOR IMMIGRATION STUDIES: And it's the danger that Judge Tigar actually ignores. In fact, he seems to be completely unaware of the dangers that exist for people who enter the United States illegally. Sixty-eight percent of all of those individuals were assaulted during that trip, one-third of all women are sexually assaulted during the trip through Mexico to the United States to enter illegally. What the Trump administration has attempted to do is dissuade individuals from entering the United States illegally, to have an orderly process by which individuals go to ports of entry. And yet for some reason, Judge Tigar has said that individuals who are entering the United States illegally have some right to enter the United States illegally, or at least the Trump administration hasn't acted properly in constraining them from doing so. FRANCISCO HERNANDEZ, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: No. It's absolutely incorrect, it's not true. It happens to be the law. If he doesn't like it, why doesn't he get Congress to do the immigration reform that he has promised for two years? It happens to be the law. ARTHUR: Francisco, you know now that's not -- HUCKABEE: Hold on, guys, hold on. If it is the law, then isn't the law that you have to go through a port of entry? Isn't it the law that if you want to go into a country that there are processes to legally immigrate? Francisco, I believe that there ought to be a legal immigration policy. I am for immigration. I am not against it. I am even for asylum for people who are truly in danger. But this is not what we are talking about. We are talking about people just showing up. So how do you respond to that? HERNANDEZ: Because they still have to make a claim, past the threshold burden of proof to show that they have at least the opportunity for political asylum. And the people making the evaluations on whether they have shown that proof are employees of the State Department. It doesn't mean they get political asylum because they cross in a legal point of entry for nonlegal port of entry. It doesn't matter. The proof is the same. And the people who are evaluating our employees are President Trump. So it doesn't make a difference where they cross. They still have to show up. ARTHUR: But they don't have a right -- they have a right to apply for asylum, but they don't have eligibility for asylum. And what the Trump administration attempted to do was restrict the ability of individuals who have entered the United States illegally in violation of U.S. law. You have committed a crime from applying from asylum. HERNANDEZ: They can't come legally through port of entry anyway. It doesn't matter if they line up at the port of entry, they're not going to be let in anyway until they are hard on their political asylum claim. By the way -- ARTHUR: Absolutely, but if they show up at the port of entry, we can allow them to enter in an orderly fashion. We don't have hiring squadrons, we don't have the cartels to enter the United States legally, yes. There might be metering. We might be limiting the number of people. HERNANDEZ: How do you think they got here? ARTHUR: They got here by passing through Mexico. HUCKABEE: Francisco, let me weigh in here, Francisco. HERNANDEZ: Sure, governor. HUCKABEE: Francisco, let me ask you this, if a person shows up, you say it doesn't have to be a port of entry, just anywhere. And they say, I need asylum. So if that is the case, where are they held until this investigation happens? Do let them roam freely in the country? HERNANDEZ: No. HUCKABEE: Where are they held without the criticism that they are being held illegally or unlawfully? HERNANDEZ: In order for them to make a claim of political asylum, they have to go to an immigration official and stake their claim. So even if they cross in a non port of entry, they still have to an immigration official to set up the proof. And if they go through a legal point of entry, there is no mechanism where they can come in legally anyway. That is the misconception that we are operating under. They cannot -- ARTHUR: There is no misconception, because they can allege -- they can assert credible fear if they go through a port of entry. They are found to have a credible fear, then they are placed in removal proceedings and they can make an application for asylum. That is exactly the Trump order says. HERNANDEZ: But the law says it doesn't matter where, even if they come in from a nonlegal port of entry, they still have to go to an immigration officer to make their claim for political asylum, otherwise they can never even apply. It doesn't make a difference. This is about -- (CROSSTALK) HUCKABEE: Excuse me. Excuse me, guys. Shouldn't it trouble us all that a judge, a single federal judge decides for the entire nation that he is just going to upend the elected president's policies? I think that's got to be a little bit troubling. HERNANDEZ: He did not upend it. He just said that's the law. ARTHUR: And governor, that's exactly the problem. HUCKABEE: We've got to go. I wish I could spend more time. We have to go. I am so sorry. We will try to do it next time. Up next, Laura recently spoke to a U.C. Berkeley student about how she was being targeted for her Christian beliefs, this after she dared abstain from a vote on LGBTQ rights. This is a can't-miss Defending the First segment which is coming up next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ISABELLA CHOW, STUDENT SENATOR AT U.C. BERKELEY: I don't see a conflict between being able to accept love and validate you as an individual and yet not fully agreeing with how you choose to identify yourself sexually. (END VIDEO CLIP) HUCKABEE: By simply daring to dissent, our next guest has had her campus life destroyed. Isabella Chow, a student senator at the University of California Berkeley got kicked out of her own party and is being pressured to resign because of her religious views. Her crime? She simply abstained from a largely symbolic student vote on October 31st because she didn't fully agree with certain clauses inside the pro-LGBTQ bills. As a result, she got labeled homophobic and transphobic, even though she didn't even oppose the final vote. Laura had the opportunity to speak with Isabella earlier. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Take us through these past few weeks. We want to establish what happened. This is a student government kind of proclamation stating what, exactly? ISABELLA CHOW, STUDENT SENATOR AT U.C. BERKELEY: Yes. So the bill, the main bill that I abstained from opposed Trump's proposed reforms to Title IX, and specifically one clause where a person's gender is defined as a person's biological sex. The bill that I abstained from, not only did it say we support freedom from discrimination and harassment for all individuals and especially LGBTQ individuals, but at the end there were clauses that asked me to promote an LGBTQ identity and lifestyle, and to promote organizations whose primary purpose is to promote the LGBTQ identity and lifestyle. And I said because of my Christian views and because I represent the Christian community on campus, I cannot fully support this bill. INGRAHAM: And so for that, being a Christian and being unapologetic, you were labeled some pretty terrible things. "The Daily Californian" said the following, "Isabella Chow made transphobic and homophobic statements during ASUC meeting, publicly dismissing the identities of individuals on campus. Chow's language erased and dehumanized individuals," et cetera, et cetera. How do you respond to that? Did you dehumanize people because of your faith? CHOW: Yes, I'd actually like to go back to my originally statements on the Senate floor on October 31st. And what I said was, one, I think that discrimination and harassment is never ever OK. But where I cross a line between where I can protect you as an individual and where I can promote your identity is a very fine line for me to walk. And so my response is, I don't see a conflict between being able to accept love and validate you as an individual, and yet not fully agreeing with how you choose to identify yourself sexually and how you choose to promote your sexual lifestyle. INGRAHAM: Right, I get that. Isabella, it's a simple, I think, understanding here. They are asking you to promote something that is contrary to your fundamental religious belief. CHOW: Exactly. INGRAHAM: That is requiring you to worship at the altar of something that you don't believe in. It is as simple as that. I don't know whether it is a proclamation or what you said on October 30th, it's as simple as that. And my problem with this is, this is happening across the board in American society. If you are -- you try to be -- no one's perfect. We all fall down. But if you try to live your faith and you believe your faith as, I guess, stated in the Bible or whatever you view the Bible to be, and it's contrary to whatever prevailing norm is at this point popular, then you're labeled a hater, homophobic, transphobic, any phobic that comes to mind, and they want to shut you down. So now you are dehumanized. So what they are accusing you of, they are now doing to you, requiring you to resign from your various positions, have no position on campus, and be reviled. And for that, we're supposed to give them like two thumbs up? I don't understand how that is diversity today. CHOW: Yes. I can't tell you how many times I've been called the f-word in person, online, social media, on the Senate floor. And other slurs that I just don't want to repeat on camera. INGRAHAM: When you say, look, I love all people, but just like you don't agree with everything I believe in, I don't agree with everything you believe in, but I love all people. If you call yourself gay, I love you as a person. It doesn't mean I have to validate everything you do, just like you wouldn't force them to belief in something that they don't believe in. That is the whole freedom of conscience thing, I thought. CHOW: Yes. I think where they are coming from is because we can't understand how you can love us and not accept our sexual identity, therefore we're going to say your words about love and acceptance are completely worthless. And we are just to take your words about not accepting us and twist that mean that you are a hater and a bigot. INGRAHAM: That's right, but it's meant to shut down speech. This is my point. Are you getting any support on campus, Isabella? CHOW: I've gotten encouraging prayers from the Christian community. I've gotten encouraging support from conservative groups on campus. But besides that, students are afraid to speak out even if they support me, whether that's in person or on social media. INGRAHAM: Right. That's the poing. CHOW: And so it's hard. Yes. INGRAHAM: Everyone is afraid. If you are in the military and you believe certain thing that are not popular today, you can't speak out. If you are in business, heaven forbid you speak out. If you give a donation to a group that they label as haters or horrible or awful rotten people, then you are afraid. Everybody is afraid. That is not a free society. That is not truly a free society. And I've got to say, I don't care what your belief is, if you're Christian, you're atheist, you have a right to speak out and to have your views respected on college campuses. The university says that the student government is autonomous. It is that correct, because don't you guys get money from the university? CHOW: That is correct. Our money comes in student fees. As a Senate class we manage about $1.5 million to $2 million every year. INGRAHAM: OK. OK. I'm making a legal point, which I know Harmeet Dhillon is representing you. But that is a connection to the university, so the university can say all they want, that we believe in free speech for all people. But if one individual's right to free speech is being denied, and if you are being effectively punished for what you believe, I think the university is in a heap of legal trouble. And I think you are incredibly brave, because it is not easy. And feminists should be supporting you. All the pro- women, pro-choice people, they should all be supporting you because you are actually speaking your conscious. And Isabella, we really appreciate you coming on tonight. And we'll be following this case very closely. You have a great lawyer, that is for sure. CHOW: Thank you so much. INGRAHAM: All right, you take care. (END VIDEOTAPE) HUCKABEE: Great report by Laura. Last night Laura brought you the outrageous story about Hollywood bigwigs and how they are considering a boycott of the entire state of Georgia, all because Brian Kemp won the governor's race. Up next, actor Antonio Sabato Jr. sounds out on his fellow Tinseltowners. You better stay with us for this one. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Georgia has become a major Hollywood production place because they've been given tax breaks. And Hollywood actors are claiming this is going to start a boycott of Georgia because Stacey Abrams lost an election. This is where we are headed. This is not where we are headed. This is where we are. They refuse to accept the results of an election. This means the people of the state of Georgia are blanket racists. (END VIDEO CLIP) HUCKABEE: Hollywood sought to inject themselves into the Georgia race with appearances from the likes of Oprah and Will Ferrell. And now after the loss they are calling for a mass boycott of the whole state. As Rush just laid out, taxpayers in that state subsidize a large chunk of Hollywood's largesse, and this retaliatory action is only likely to hurt the people at the bottom of the rung, people that have jobs in the film industry and Georgia. Here with his own comments for Hollywood, actor Antonio Sabato Jr. Antonio, I'm delighted to have you with me. I don't think this decision set well with you, did it? ANTONIO SABATO, JR., ACTOR: No, it does not. These are people in Georgia. These production companies that are working there, they are amazing people. I love the people there that I'm surrounded with. All the crews, the makeup artists, transportation. So you want to take all those jobs away from these working people in Georgia? By the way, they are generating billions of dollars in Georgia because of the tax write-offs which they should do here in California but they will never do it. So these people and Hollywood have the guts to say something like this. It's just they are conceited, they are selfish for themselves. And they don't care about America. They don't care about this country, and it is a shame, because in the past it used to be a lot different. But I'm going to stand up for that. I am a conservative. I believe in God. I believe that the future is a lot better than the past. We have a lot of work to do, but these people have got to stay away. Georgia is doing phenomenal. And I give them so much credit because the Republican leaders who are taking care of the people of Georgia, and they should do it here in California, but that is a whole different story. I'm upset of this, because these people in Hollywood, they make a lot of money, they travel in private jets, they have all this. But there's people for them in production companies like in Georgia, they need jobs, they need to work. It's unfair to them. HUCKABEE: It is interesting, even Stacey Abrams, who lost the governor's race, not very gingerly, by the way. And she has certainly not been very statesmanlike in the defeat. But even she said that the boycott is absurd. We have got a statement by a tweeter, his name is Dustin Lewis. And I want us to take a look at it because I think it is pretty powerful. He says this. He says "This boycott is about to make my head explode. Alyssa Milano and Ron Perlman, Bradley Whitford, instead of hurting all of us who have families and careers here, join us in fighting. Killing our livelihood is a slap in the face to your fellow SAG-AFTRA artists." And I think that's kind of exactly what you are saying, Antonio. This is now about the million-dollar actors. This is about the folks who work behind the scenes, whose name may get rolled on a credit. But these are the folks who have to feed their families and put food on the table. SABATO: Absolutely. Look what they've done to me. They blacklisted me, and I worked in the business for 30 years. My father was an actor. I love what I do, but because I represent the Republican Party, I am a conservative, and I support our president, you've been tossed on the sideline. And you can't speak. It is just blacklisting to a level that I have never seen before. And it is happening right here, exactly what we're talking about. It is just so unfair. We are supposed to live in the greatest country in the world we are free to speak our minds, and disagreements are fine, but not to this level. I've never seen so much hate coming from Hollywood in my entire life. When we had Obama running this country into the ground for eight years, we didn't talk about this. We didn't complain every day. We didn't call people names or treat people really badly every single day. We went on with their lives. And so -- HUCKABEE: Antonio, we're going to to run out of time here. Before we do, I've got to ask you about your thoughts on the anti-Trump actor, Jim Carrey. "Hollywood Reporter" says that during a panel discussion Carrey claimed "Trump is a melanoma and that anyone who covers for him, including Sarah Sanders, is putting makeup on it. It shows that there is a deeper problem in this country and the problem is greed." Most people know that Sarah Sanders is my daughter, but I don't need to defend her. SABATO: Wonderful daughter. HUCKABEE: She is capable of defending herself against Canadian comedians whose biggest movie was "Dumb and Dumber." So Antonio, your reaction to Jim Carrey? SABATO: All I've got to say right now, because I'm very close to Jesus, and I've got to say I pray for these people. I pray for them and I hope everything is going to change at some point for them and they find some peace and love, because we've got to move on. We have this president running this country, we have got to support him. We've got to support this country. We've got to support our troops. We have so many things that we've got to do. We have homelessness, people addicted to drugs left and right. We have so much to do, and this is the last thing we need to worry about. And I give your credit and your daughter for all the hard work you guys do every single day. I'm right with you on everything. HUCKABEE: Antonio, thank you very much. Hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving, and it is an honor and a pleasure to have you here. SABATO: Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you. HUCKABEE: We're going to be right back with the last bite. HUCKABEE: And it's time for the last bite. It's the moment we have been waiting for, which bird will President Trump pardon for Thanksgiving? And the results are in. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Today's lucky bird and guest of honor is named Peas along with his alternate name, Carrots. This was a fair election. Unfortunate, carrots refused to concede and demanded a recount, and we're still fighting with Carrots. (LAUGHTER) TRUMP: And I will tell you, we've come to a conclusion. Carrots, I am sorry to tell you, the result did not change. (END VIDEO CLIP) HUCKABEE: Well, that is all the time we have got for tonight, but before I go, make sure to check out my brand- new book, "Rare, Medium, or Done Well, Making the Most of Your Life." It is not a cookbook, not a political book, but it's the kind of read that has the endorsements of people from as far to the left as a Van Jones and to the right as Robert Jefferson, Eric Metaxas. It's an inspiration read just in time for Christmas available online and in bookstores everywhere. And I hope you'll catch my weekend show, "Huckabee" on TBN, Saturday, Sunday 8 and 11 Eastern. Right now, good night from Orlando. Load-Date: November 21, 2018 End of Document Latest Developments in Migrant Caravan Crisis; Is the Mueller Probe Wrapping Up?; White House Unveils Reporter Conduct Rules; New Midterm Election Fallout; Update on Devastating California Wildfires; The Department of Homeland Security Said at Least 500 Criminals HAVE mixed In to Caravan of Illegal Immigrants Who are Trying to Come to the U.S. for a Better Life; In an Interview with Fox's Chris Wallace, President Trump Said It Was Him Who Made the Answers to Mueller's Question But It Was His Legal Team Who Wrote It Down; Comedian Michelle Wolf Going after the White House Correspondents Association for Not Choosing Her as Speaker NEXT year, Instead Picking Ron Chernow Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 19, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7593 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Trace Gallagher, Tammy Bruce, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter Guests: Thomas Homan, Alan Dershowitz, Willie Robertson, Dan Bongino Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Great show as always. And welcome to HANNITY. Busy news night. That caravan everybody said would never get here they are now as we speak at our southern border now the first, migrants have already arrived south of San Diego, thousands more still on their way and the Mexican border city of Tijuana they are in crisis mode tonight. Tensions are running high, the migrants are now stuck between our reinforced border, and a Mexican city that wants them gone. And coming up we'll bring you the very latest or what is now a serious developing situation. Also that have an update on the Mueller witch-hunt could it finally be in its final days, it's beginning to look like it, and the White House just unveiled. New rules for reporter conduct that would require, oh people like Jim Acosta, other so-called journalists act like professional adults, but don't hold your breath. The president may have outsmarted everybody in all this, and I'll explain. And also tonight, the election in Florida is finally officially over. Here's a sore loser in Georgia who lost but doesn't want to kind of fully admit it. And we are continuing tonight to monitor the devastating wildfires in California tonight, a tragedy that could have and should have been prevented. Sit tight. A lot of news this Monday. We start with our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Tonight, the crisis on our southern border is growing more serious. Three thousand migrants now have already arrived south of California's border. A number that is expected now to swell to more than 10,000. Tensions are now escalating in Tijuana Mexico where thousands have poured in straining local resources and fueling conflict, and what the mayor there is calling a migrant tsunami that could last six months. Now, Mexican nationals are taken to the streets they are standing up for their own borders and sovereignty, and they're telling the caravan to go home. And some are even literally backing and quoting President Trump. Take a look at this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (CHANTING) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump was right. This is an invasion. What Donald Trump said was right. This is an invasion. This is what it is. And more caravans are coming. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Donald Trump was right. It's an invasion. Now, four years on this program, I pointed out the huge massive hypocrisy Mexico always wanted to lecture America on the issue of immigration when they jailed or returned people that entered their country immediately. There was no, quote, due process. They were out or sent to jail. And I've been saying that while the vast majority of people coming here, I got it, I understand it, you understand it. They want a better life for themselves, their kids, their grandkids. The problem is they've not been vetted, no background checks, no knowledge of any criminal history. They may have. This unchecked, unvetted mass migration would be reckless to American national security. That's a threat. And just today, the Department of Homeland Security in this country confirmed to Fox News they have now identified more than criminals that are traveling with the caravan flow, just mixing in, adding that the vast majority and the caravan are able-bodied males, not women and children. Off of women and children are purposely put in front just for the cameras. And by the way, now, thankfully, the president is following through on his promise to increase border security. Promise made, promise kept. He tweeted out a picture of the revamped barbed-wire fence near San Diego, vowing that there will be no quote climbers anymore under our administration. But remember, the situation would be so much different for everybody, so much safer for everybody if we had a law and people would respect our sovereignty and our borders and our rule of law. It would be safer for everybody on both sides and, of course, that wall can have a big door as the president has often said. America can and should accept immigrants. But we have to vet anybody and everyone who wants to come to this country. And we'll have more on this serious situation that's developed all throughout the hour. But first, the Mueller witch-hunt, the left, the corrupt media, they might soon be in need of a new conspiracy theory to obsess over because the probe could now be entering its final days. It now appears there will be no in- person interview between President Trump, Robert Mueller or his team of left-wing lawyers. That would mean be no perjury trap, no subpoena, no battle before the Supreme Court, thankfully. Instead, the president will submit written answers to the special counsel. We expect sometime this week maybe even as early as tomorrow. Now, of course, if Mueller's investigation really is a probe into Russia collusion, all of his questions we know have already been answered. We know that in multiple interviews, President Trump has consistently denied any collusion or conspiracy with Russia. We know the president consistently denied any knowledge of any collusion within his campaign. We know the president has flatly denied any election coordination with Russia whatsoever. And to this day, there's no evidence. We know that the convictions of Lieutenant General Michael Flynn and campaign aide George Papadopoulos had nothing to do with collusion. We know the same about Michael Cohen. We know that Paul Manafort's crimes have nothing to do with collusion. And meanwhile, there are still major questions surrounding real instances of collusion that Robert Mueller and the media in this country have ignored. Why is it Robert Mueller investigating the Clinton bought and paid for phony debunked Russian dossier? Why didn't the special counsel probe the Russian lies found in Steele's so-called research, which by the way Clinton paid for? Why is it Mueller investigating the Pfizer fraud surrounding the grossly dishonest use of those Russian lies or that even the author of the lies Steele himself said, oh, I have no idea if it's true? Now, why isn't he investigating the coordinated effort by the deep state, people at the top levels of power within our government, the Obama government, Democratic Party, leaking Russian lies to the American people so that they could influence voters right before an election? Remember, they had an immediate leak strategy later. What about the Strzok-Page insurance policy? Why is there literally no investigation into any of that by the special counsel whose main mandate was to look into Russia collusion? The simple answer is, it has been at singularly focused witch-hunt only on Donald Trump, carried out by a partisan team of investigators who have wanted, first, him not to win the presidency but then discredit and delegitimize the presidency of Donald Trump. And, of course, stopped his agenda. Over the weekend, the president had this to say about the ongoing probe. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: All these people that say I'm going to end the investigation, you know, they've been saying that now for, how long is this witch-hunt gone on? It's gone on for what? CHRIS WALLACE, FOX NEWS HOST, FOX NEWS SUNDAY: Since May of '17. TRUMP: OK. But how long have I been looked at? You know when I've been looked at? From the day I -- WALLACE: Since July of 2016. TRUMP: From the day I announced, I was looked at as a candidate with nothing, no proof, with phony people like McCabe and Strzok and his lover. You had Lisa Page, his lover. These people were looking at me, they wanted an insurance policy, just in case I won or Hillary lost, and this was the insurance policy. It's a scam. There was no collusion whatsoever, and the whole thing is a scam. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, while the president is rightfully critical of the one-sided partisan witch hunt, all members of the media missing in action, they have become Robert Mueller's biggest cheerleaders, night after night after night, over a year and a half, conspiracy TV MSNBC, fake news CNN leading with breathless speculation about Trump Russia collusion and it's not happening, avoiding the biggest corruption abuse of power scandal in history that we have laid out for you. And, by the way, Lindsey Graham on this program very willing to have full investigations and perhaps even a special counsel, considering that's all the Democrats in the House want to do for the next two years. So, instead of these networks putting facts first, they've been waging a PR-like campaign against the man that they never wanted to be president. But they call themselves journalists on these networks. So, it's no surprise that many so-called reporters replaced actual journalism with anti-Trump vitriol. Every second, every minute, every hour of every day in some cases. And, by the way, especially true of Jim Acosta. Day after day, he made a mockery of these press briefings, trying to prop himself up. Instead of asking questions, he engaged in debate with the president or Sara Sanders, insults, fundamental rudeness. Instead of seeking answers, asking tough questions, bashing the administration with statements, he replaced reporting with grandstanding. And earlier this month, Acosta's unprofessional behavior -- well, that culminated in this confrontation where he actually made, if you can see right there, he wouldn't even give the White House in turn back the microphone, refused to turn over the microphone to the intern after the president had to say enough. How many times does a president have to say to one reporter enough, enough, enough, enough between them? If I was one of the other reporters waiting to ask a question, I think, I'd be ticked off. Anyway, following that incident, subsequent ban from the White House, Jim Acosta now has regained his hard pass, but let's remind you of some of his past behavior. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Not you, not you, your organization is terrible. JIM ACOSTA, CNN REPORTER: You are attacking our news organization, can you give us a chance to ask a question, sir? Sir, can I stay -- TRUMP: Quiet. Go ahead. She's asking the question, don't be rude. ACOSTA: Mr. President-elect, can you give us a question. You're attacking us. Can you give us a question? I'm not sure. This press conference was ever on the rails. As you heard numerous times during this news conference, the president was just not in touch with reality. The president just seems to harbor some deep-seated racial attitudes about people of color coming in from other parts of the world. It's like we're just covering bad reality television is what it feels like. I think at times this, White House has an unhealthy fixation on what I call the three Ms, the Mexicans, the Muslims and the media. If you don't mind, after I'm finished, if Major, or Halle or Vivienne (ph) or one of her female colleagues could go after me, that would be great. This president just to follow up on these allegations against -- TRUMP: What does he mean by that? Explain. SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I'm going to move on. David, go ahead. ACOSTA: The president's tone towards the press obviously is not helpful at times and I think that that's plain to see. SANDERS: It's part of the negotiation that we expect Congress to have and -- ACOSTA: And you understand Democrats are saying that they may not be in favor of this kind of deal. But they say thanks but no thanks for a wall - - SANDERS: Jim, I'm not negotiating with you. I'm going to let Congress take care of that. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jim, Jim, Jim, I appreciate your speech. ACOSTA: I think we saw the president's true colors today, and I'm not sure they were red, white and blue. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh, they're not red, white and blue. Great for Jim, mister objective reporter, to decide Now, the irony here is the great boomerang that may have happened. Why? Because now as a result of the court ruling didn't talk about the First Amendment, talked about the Fifth Amendment due process. But anyway, I have here a list of all of the qualifications and new standards that every reporter has to meet if they want to stay in the White House. And people will be given that due process. That means they may have ultimately made it easier to kick out people that refuse to abide by the decorum of having the honor to work in that house. Be as tough as you want. But it's not about you, it's not about having a debate with the president of the United States. So, while Acosta's hard passed has been restored, he now faces new White House rules aimed at curtailing unprofessional behavior. That sounds fair to me. First, the journalists called upon to ask a question will ask a single question and then will yield the floor to the other individuals in there. Second, at the discretion of the president or other White House officials taking questions, a follow-up question may or may not be permitted, and where a follow-up has been allowed and asked, the questioner will then yield the floor. Third, yielding the floor includes when applicable, physically surrendering the microphone to White House staff were used by the next questioner. And fourth, failure to apply abide by any of the rules, one through three, may result in suspension or the revoking of the journalist's hard pass. Now, it's important to remember freedom of the press does not guarantee freedom to the White House grounds. Now, there is no law regulating the president's access to the press. They don't even have to do press conferences which brings us to a "Hannity" history lesson tonight. For most of American history, there was no press corps inside the White House. Now, the McKinley administration was the first to communicate with the press on a consistent basis and he used them to bolsters public support for the Spanish-American war. But formal press conferences, they didn't take place until the Woodrow Wilson administration, and the first press secretary took office in 1929. And get this: press conferences were all off the record until the Eisenhower administration. Now, the White House briefing room, that wasn't constructed until 1970. It's actually built over a pool and the pool still exists. So, it's important to remember despite the constant stream of negative coverage, President Trump has granted a historic level of access to the press. His briefings are incredibly long, some lasting for well over an hour as the president fields dozens and dozens of questions. A "New York Times" photographer recently said that Trump provides more access than the Obama administration. Now, the White House correspondent from CBS echoed those remarks that, quote, we see him all the time. Now, the president has a new strategy for dealing with Acosta, and frankly those rules will be applied to everybody, equally, as they now try to turn his briefings into a circus. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: And we'll have rules of decorum. You know, you can't keep asking questions, You have -- we had a lot of reporters in that room -- many, many reporters in that room and they were unable to ask questions because this guy gets up and starts, you know, doing what he's supposed to be doing for him and for CNN, and you know, just shouting out questions. But I will say this, look, nobody believes in the First Amendment more than I do, and if I think somebody's acting out of sorts I will leave, I'll say thank you very much, everybody. I appreciate you coming and I'll leave. And those reporters will not be too friendly to whoever it is that's acting out. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. So, we'll continue to monitor the new White House press strategy as it unfolds. But now, we have good news to start with here. The Florida recount is finally over. Andrew Gillum, Bill Nelson have now finally conceded. Rick Scott, the governor, is now the senator- elect from the great state of Florida. Ron DeSantis, congressman, will be Florida's next governor. And tonight, we don't yet know the cost of this year's Florida recount, but just 18 years ago, the 2000, that recount cost the taxpayers millions of dollars. Now, the colossal bill to taxpayers is not the only fallout from this year's Florida election mayhem. Broward County supervisor of elections Brenda Snipes, she has now officially resigned from her post. Frankly, it's about time. She came under heavy fire after magically finding, oh, tens of thousands of votes, days after day of today after the election. And, of course, mixing dozens of invalid ballots with valid ones, their staff accidentally leaving a box of blank ballots in a rental car at an airport and she missed her state's recount deadline by two minutes, invalidating the results that would have given another almost 800 votes to Rick Scott. Criminal investigation is now ongoing. Meanwhile in the state of Georgia tonight, the election chaos does somewhat continue there. Now, Stacey Abrams refusing to officially concede last week, although she's acknowledged there's no real path to victory. Also refusing to say that Brian Kemp is the legitimate governor of the great state of Georgia. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is he the legitimate governor-elect of Georgia? STACEY ABRAMS (D), FORMER CANDIDATE FOR GEORGIA GOVERNOR: He is the person who won an adequate number of votes to become the governor -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But that's not -- with all -- with all due respect and I respect where you're coming from and I respect the issues that you're raising, you're not answering the question. Do you think -- (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, is he -- you're not using the word legitimate. Is he the legitimate governor-elect of Georgia? ABRAMS: He is the legal governor of Georgia. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Legal, legitimate, concede, you know what? Sounds sore loser- ish. Not good for anyone's future and political ambitions. So, while Abrams tries to uproot the will of the voters in Georgia, we still have two us House races that are still undecided. They're looking good for the Republicans. Mia love in Utah, up by 1,500. Robert Woodall, a little below 500, looks like both of them leading in those races. All told, Democrats picked up, according to FOX News, 37 seats in the House. That is nothing compared to Presidents Obama and Clinton. Look at this: 2010, Obama's first midterm, well, Democrats lost 63 House seats and six seats in the Senate. In '94, under Bill Clinton, his first midterm, Democrats lost 52 seats in the House, eight in the Senate. So much for the blue wave. There is one critical Mississippi Senate race runoff coming up. The left is pulling out all the stops there to derail Cindy Hyde-Smith's chances in her runoff election. But Trump is hitting the stump. He'll be out in Mississippi next Monday for a rally. And now that Trump is campaigning for her, the Democrats will only pull out even more dirty tactics for that crucial Senate race. We'll stay tuned to that. But if you think about it, well, the president didn't go so often to Florida and Tennessee and Missouri and Indiana and North Dakota and he'll be going to Mississippi. Could we have had a very different result, comparing his first midterm to that of Obama and Clinton and basically pretty good night for the president. Now, we have to turn now to the horrific wildfires that continue to rip through the state of California tonight. This is horrible. The statewide death toll is now up to people, and we have nearly a thousand Californians missing. The devastation as you can see and the level of damage is beyond shocking billions and billions of dollars in damage and the personal toll is beyond any description. This could and should have been prevented. Look at what "The Wall Street Journal" reported in their editorial board. Federal-state environmental protections have left California's drought impacted forests vulnerable to these fires. Get this: in a seven-year period, 130 million trees have died in seven years. The government is preventing them from being cleared. Well, how does that help stop forest fires? And according to "The Journal", quote: The Endangered Species Act and the National Environmental Policy Act have hampered tree clearing, controlled burns, timber sales on federal lands. And the article goes on, quote: California also restricts timber harvesting, requires myriad permits and environmental impact statements to prune overgrown forests. Controlled maintenance in California's forests have got to now be a top priority. This has happened year in and year out, and the president, by the way, went to California this weekend, he and Jerry Brown are in agreement -- the regulations need to change. The forests must be controlled and properly maintained, so we can prevent loss of life, damage property, lives uprooted. The government has to get all people's backs and they have to come up with common-sense policies so they can protect their state, their people, their homes, their families with better forest management. These fires cause far worse environmental damage than a controlled burn or timber excavation. And as I've said before, human lives, of course, are irreplaceable. And we do pray tonight, everyone in California for all of them. Many people suffering tonight, many people scared, worried. They don't know where their families are. Thousand missing people, 80 dead. When we come back, a live report on the migrant caravan. A huge showdown as we speak in Tijuana, Mexico. Plus, the former head of ICE, Tammy Bruce will -- and Tammy Bruce will be here to discuss the crisis on the border as this and much more continues. We're glad you picked FOX. We're glad you're watching "Hannity". HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with the very latest update on the migrant caravan that has now made our way to our southern border, FOX News Los Angeles correspondent, Trace Gallagher, is with us. Trace, a few thousand people now in Tijuana. Things look very tense. TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, and at the border, Sean, people carried signs saying "no to illegals" and "no to the invasion". These were signs carried by Mexican citizens in Tijuana who made it clear the Central American caravan is not welcome in their city. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm not really in favor of them coming the way they did. You know, to me, it feels like they invaded and that was not the correct way. But I know all of them are not like that. (END VIDEO CLIP) GALLAGHER: The icy reception came as a shock to many in the caravan who say up to now, the Mexican people have treated them well. But even the local mayor who wore a make Tijuana great again hat said he might consider a referendum to force the migrants to move on, otherwise, they could be here for a while. There are currently six thousand migrants waiting for entry into the U.S. That's a two to three month wait just for an asylum interview, plus an additional seven to eight thousand migrants are moving toward Tijuana. For now, Mexico is providing a stadium for shelter along with bed pads, food and showers. But the government says it does not have the resources for long-term shelter. And today for the first time, the U.S. shut down the San Ysidro port of entry near San Diego, fearing a large number of migrants were planning to rush the border. But with miles of new razor wire fence, a full contingent of border patrol agents and military members getting into the U.S. will not be easy, although some us troops have finished their duties and could start coming home this week. Finally, we should note, DHS said today, more than criminals are traveling with the migrant caravans and that most of the caravan is made up of single adult or teenage males -- Sean. HANNITY: All right. Trace Gallagher in Los Angeles tonight, thank you. Also, as President Trump tries to secure our southern border, Democrats continue to demonize agents and Senator Kamala Harris said this just last week at the confirmation hearing for Trump's picked to lead ICE. Take a look at this outrage. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Klan was what we would call today a domestic terrorist group. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: Why? Why would we call them a domestic terrorist group? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because they tried to use fear and force to change political environment. HARRIS: And what was the motivation for the use of fear and force? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was based on race and ethnicity. HARRIS: Right. Are you aware of the perception of many about how the power and the discretion at ICE is being used to enforce the laws? Do you see any parallels? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I do not see any parallels between sworn officers and agents -- HARRIS: I'm talking about perception. I'm talking about perception. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I do not see a parallel. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The perception of ICE being the KKK? Here with reaction, FOX News contributor Tammy Bruce and former acting ICE director, FOX News contributor Thomas Homan, is with us. I don't know how you react to Tammy -- react to Kamala Harris, sir, but number one, I like your reaction, and number two, I think more importantly you see what's beginning to boil over in Tijuana and I don't see any good answers here, and the people in Mexico using Donald Trump's verbiage, language, the feeling that this is an invasion and it comes at a great cost to them because their borders were not respected. Their law is not respected. THOMAS HOMAN, FORMER ACTING ICE DIRECTOR: Well, first of all, on Kamala Harris, what she did was disgusting. I mean she compared to 20,000 men and women of ICE, the same men and women that lead the safety and security of their home every day, strapped a gun through the hip and defend this nation -- to compare them to the -- to such a hate group is just disgusting, you know? And for her as a U.S. senator, to make that comparison, when her herself need to look in the mirror, she failed the American people. ICE is enforcing the laws that Congress enacted. They're not making this up. So she would have done her job and close the loopholes that caused illegal immigration, we wouldn't have this caravan today. So, shame on her. And I've said it once before -- she should go walked in national law enforcement memorial and apologized to all the fallen border police and ICE agents that gave their lives for this country. She is disgusting on what she did. As far as what's going on Tijuana, look, we got a great president. We got a president takes border security seriously. We got a president that believes in the sovereignty in this country. We got a president that believes in a rule of law. We got a president that supports the work of ICE (ph). He's doing his job. So, what's going on in Mexico as you said, Sean, they're waking up. Their country had -- their sovereignty has been attacked. These people went through their southern border, assaulted their federal officers and their military. Mexico is finally saying enough is enough. And the reason this is coming to ahead is because President Trump is taking power, and you know what? Our border is closed for illegal business. So, what he's done is force this caravan to be stuck in Tijuana, he put the issue on the front burner. He degrade -- he's right on everything he's done in this border. And I'm certainly glad he is there. And now everybody is talking about and we are going to be successful on this. HANNITY: Let me, you know, Tammy, you got protesters in Tijuana erupting. Trump was right. This is an invasion. Five hundred criminals our Department of Homeland Security point out of mixed in with those that perhaps is one of better life, which I'm assuming. Mexico is not prepared to deal with any of this, and now it's gotten to the point where we got thousands of people and no place to go which is being laughed at by people like Barack Obama, and Democrats before the election this is just fearmongering and apparently it doesn't like it. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, it doesn't. And look, a lot of those people we think it's possible moved to try to access the United States to Tijuana because the drug cartels are unhappy because of the most rudimentary steps we've actually taken. Razor wires. Some, you know, impediments at the border to keep people from being able to come over has affected the ability to move drugs into the country. Imagine the success would have if there was a wall, 64,000 deaths from heroin and other opioid overdoses, but primarily heroin in this country. In 2016, 64,000 dead Americans. At the very least that's the reason why we should secure the border in this regard. And regarding Kamala Harris speaking about the drug trafficking into the interior, ICE is the organization that saves lives that protect the lives of the immigrant communities legal and illegal. It doesn't matter when they deal with MS- 13. The sex trafficking, the drug trafficking. The efforts to kidnap children to force them into gangs to force them into drug abuse. It is ICE that get the criminals who are stopping that activity. And for Kamala Harris to suggest that those individuals who risk their lives to save the lives of the immigrant communities and also the lives of people in the urban areas is obscene and it highlights the fraud that the Democrats are now, and especially the women were claiming to be feminist lading that party they are condemning girls and women in the process of this rhetoric to create more divisions. We should all reject it. HANNITY: All right. Powerful, Tammy, thank you. Thomas, thank you. All right. A lot more news tonight. President Trump taking matters now into his own hands about the questions Mueller wants to answer. Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, and Alan Dershowitz. Also, tonight, Hollywood threatening to boycott the state of Georgia, you won't believe the ridiculous reason why. "Duck Dynasty's" Willie Robertson and Dan Bongino as we continue. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS WALLACE, FOX NEWS HOST: Your team is preparing written answers to questions about-- (CROSSTALK) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: No, no, not my team, I'm preparing written answers. Look, I'm the one that do -- does the answer. Yes, are they writing them out? WALLACE: Yes. TRUMP: Yes, they're writing what I tell them to I write. WALLACE: Are they going to be submitted? TRUMP: At some point, very soon, yes. I've completed that. WALLACE: So, your -- you are submitting? TRUMP: And it wasn't a big deal. And by the way, it wasn't a big deal. The answers -- the questions were asked and answered. It wasn't a big deal. You know, they make it like I had meetings for many, many hours. I got the questions, I responded, we wrote them out. I read them once, I read them the second time, we made some changes, and that's it. It's very simple and, do you know why? I did nothing wrong. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: President Trump this weekend on Fox News Sunday discussing the written answers that he will provide to the Mueller investigation. Is it now the beginning of the end? Here with reaction, he's the author of the number one New York Times bestseller "The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary and Frame Donald Trump" Fox News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett, and the author of another bestseller, "The Case Against Impeaching" Alan Dershowitz and Fox News contributor Sara Carter. Let me start with you, Gregg. With a series of questions, OK, did you collude with the Russians? No. Do you know anybody who colluded with the Russians? No. Did you know about what WikiLeaks was going to release? GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Right. HANNITY: No. I mean, what else is there to ask, because it's only about that and not about obstruction. JARRETT: Yes, you're right. Anything he did after he took office plus obstruction is off the table, which means there really are unlimited numbers of questions, frankly it should have taken about five or 10 minutes to answer them. He might be question about the Trump tower meeting. Did you know in advance about it? Not that I recall, that's what he had said ad nauseam. Look, 1.4 million documents were provided by the White House, 20 people including four members of the White House counsel's office were available to special counsel Robert Mueller. Additional individuals from the campaign were also made available, so. And this president has been very open and has voiced his sentiments about this. So, frankly, Mueller knows everything. HANNITY: You know, let me go to you, Professor Dershowitz. Because i many ways, this is good news, because we had discussed the possibility of a subpoena fight the president having to go before. The grand jury, it would have been I think bad for the country. You have been very outspoken about it, I think you are right on that. And I also have to believe that we did actually have all that we discover about a fixed investigation into Hillary. In other words, they were writing the exoneration, they never interviewed her months before. They were writing the exoneration. Then of course the fraudulent Russian dossier that was leaked to the American people to influence the election, and then used later to help discredit and delegitimize Donald Trump's victory. There is Russia information that they ignored here, which shows to me a bias, a complete double standard. ALAN DERSHOWITZ, PROFESSOR, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL: Well, I think the most the striking example of the bias is Rod Rosenstein still being in charge of the investigation. He is the crucial, the main witness for the defense. If there is any discussion at all in the report of any allegation of obstruction of justice, the defense is what Rod Rosenstein said it was OK. He told me to do it. It was his idea. He wrote the memo. How can you both be in charge of the investigation, and the main witness for the defense? As far as the written questions are concerned, what I think is going to happen once the questions are submitted is, the Mueller team will go through them with a fine-toothed comb and see if there's any contributions to anything said by any of the witnesses, because the whole purpose of having him answer questions whether orally or in writing is a perjury trap. And I think the written questions make it much, much harder for President Trump to fall into any kind of a perjury trap. And remember, you can fall into a perjury trap even if you tell the complete truth. All you need is somebody who contradicts you who will prosecute or believes and then you are in the perjury trap. HANNITY: And Sara, from a news standpoint, does that mean -- I think Lindsey Graham was pretty clear in saying that, you know, I think the Hillary e-mail investigation might then begin again, especially if the Democrat want to spend the next two years investigating this for the 400th year. But then it raises, what happened to Comey, what happens to McCabe, what happens to Bruce Ohr, and Christopher Steele, what happens to Strzok and Page? What about the media leak strategy, what about the insurance policy? What about Clinton should win 100,000,000 to zero in terms of the race against Donald Trump? All of which we now have evidence of, on top of will we get to see the FISA warrants? The gang of eight information, the 302's, Bruce Ohr with Christopher Steele? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, and now there is a fourth bucket that Devin Nunes has talked about, you know, he will be wrapping up his chairmanship and he's talked about a set of e-mails, basically a set of e- mails that have proved that people within the FBI and DOJ knowingly withheld information from the FISA court. So, this is very important, not only do we and I think America wants to see transparency here with the FISA warrant. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance warrant, the Bruce Ohr interviews, those 302s that mention, Sean, as well as the gang of an eight notebook. But now there is a fourth bucket. And not only that. I don't think that they are going to ack away. I truly believe that all of the evidence that's come out over the last two years particularly directed at the FBI and DOJ, those senior- level officials, as well as Hillary Clinton, as well as the information that we found out about Stephan Halper, you know, the professor. And working with, you know, basically with the FBI and Bruce Ohr, basically being-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And George Papadopoulos. CARTER: George Papadopoulos, yes, absolutely. This is all going to move forward. HANNITY: Let me ask, professor, let me ask you because I think this is really, really important. If there was fraud committed on the FISA court to get into a backdoor way into the Trump campaign associate, and all prior contacts information, e-mails included, and they purposely withheld information and gave the FISA court unverified and uncorroborated information. I got to imagine as a civil libertarian you take that case, you run with it, you bring it to the Supreme Court it's nine-zero, Dershowitz wins. DERSHOWITZ: Well, I think that there is great concern about how the FISA court operates and there is now I think a lot of consensus that the FISA court has to be restructured. They should have a permanent group of defense attorneys with security clearance who can be there to challenge anything presented by the government to the FISA court. So that, for example, in this case, a defense attorney would say, what is the basis of this? How did you get it? Did you check it, did you validate it? HANNITY: They didn't. DERSHOWITZ: You know, and they didn't do any of that. HANNITY: They didn't. DERSHOWITZ: And it should be done. HANNITY: And they withheld, Gregg, I'll give you the last word, they withheld pertinent information. JARRETT: It's a fraud on the court to conceal evidence and deceive the judges. And the tragedy here is that there were never any hearings by the FISA judges. They simply accepted as truthful from the FBI and the Department of Justice but we know which wasn't truthful. So, is it going to be that they are going to probably land this airplane in a way that they hope, Sara that the investigations into the deep state end, is that their hope that they want prosecutorial discretion applied everywhere? CARTER: I think so. I think that is their hope. And I think we have a lot more coming in the future, Sean. I know there is a lot more information out there and indictments all the way. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We're waiting. President Trump-- (CROSSTALK) DERSHOWITZ: Well, I think the great news is that conservatives are becoming civil libertarians now, because the ACLU-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: With all due respect, I've always been a civil libertarian for the last 20 years. DERSHOWITZ: -- there is no water, so I think it's very important. HANNITY: All right. CARTER: It is. HANNITY: Good to see you all. This is going to get interesting. All right. When we come back "Duck Dynasty's" Willie Robertson, Dan Bongino. Hollywood in the Trump era, you won't believe the latest, that's straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Comedian Michelle Wolf the entertainer at the last year's White House correspondent's dinner, attacking the White House Correspondents Association for ditching the traditional comedian and booking historian Ron Chernow as next year's featured speaker. Wolf tweeted, quote, "The WHCA are cowards, the media is complicit and I couldn't be prouder." Also, tonight, following Brian Kemp's successful gubernatorial campaign in Georgia against Democratic challenger Stacey Abrams, well, several Hollywood actors are now calling for a boycott of George's film and television industry. here with reaction author of the brand-new book "American Entrepreneur: How 400 Wears of Risk-Takers, Innovators, and Business Visionaries Built the USA," Duck and buck commander CEO, the man himself, Willie Robertson. You get a little grey area there in that beard, Mr. Robertson, he's beginning to-- (CROSSTALK) WILLIE ROBERTSON, AUTHOR, AMERICAN ENTREPRENEUR: Come on now. HANNITY: No, come on, now, not that you're getting grayer by the day, I can't believe how old you look. ROBERTSON: Well, you're looking more silver as well my friend. HANNITY: And Dan Bongino, former Secret Service officer and "Spygate" is his new bestselling book. You know, you are rarity, Willie. You guys have this hit show that goes on for years and years and years. You actually mention God in a positive way. The family prays at the end of every episode even with your crazy uncle. And your dad wanted to baptize me in an alligator pool. ROBERTSON: He still does. HANNITY: What? ROBERTSON: He still does. HANNITY: I've not doing it in an alligator swamp. He wants to take me out, there are alligators. I've seen episodes where the alligators live, and he wanted to take me out there and dunk me. ROBERTSON: He still does. Well, you know, our family is strong about our faith. We are willing to show that and never held back from that. You know, I think all this boycott, boycott this, boycott that, it's getting old in my opinion. And I think, you know, we got to deal with the results and say, let's move on and be positive. I mean, if not, we are going to have to have -- where we'll have to have all new entertainment for, you know, the left side and the right side for each other. Comedians are supposed to be funny, so be funny and be funny for all of us. HANNITY: You know, I think a lot of it, we are watching a lot of sore loserism (Ph), Dan Bongino. I mean, Bill Clinton, 52 House seats, he lost in his first midterm, eight Senate seats, you know. Then you got the real winner, he loses six Senate seats and 63 House seats and that's Barack Obama's first midterm. Trump picks up all the Senate seats and he only lost 37 House seats which by the way, historically always happen, and they can't handle the loss. Trump outworked them again. DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: Yes. Wherever he campaigned for the Senate, Sean, they did really well. But you know, think about how silly and ridiculous this entertainment industry full boycott of Georgia, right, Sean? So you have this entertainment industry where large swaths of them are liberal, right. They work in this state, largely in California on the West Coast. We have really high taxes. The entertainment industry escapes to go to Georgia, which is more business friendly which makes them more money. They lose a race by a sliver. Hey, listen, Stacey Abrams did pretty well for Georgia but she still lost and they call for a boycott of the industry that's making the money. HANNITY: Hey, Willie. BONGINO: I mean they live in intellectual black hole. HANNITY: You think of the billions of dollars. Places like Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon. They are all investing in content. It's a massive amount of money and what they are finding is, family-friendly, good themes uplifting movies that have a message and aren't afraid to say they believe in God, like I do, and you do, they are doing well. ROBERTSON: Well, there is no doubt that P.G. movies and movies that more people can watch are more profitable. I've been to Georgia and I've seen the new studios and it's unbelievable what they are investing down there. And so, it's going to be a loss. But these boycotts have been tried before, you know, speaking of Georgia, you know, they are going to have, years ago boycott Chick-fil-a, we were boycotted against. And those things failed, so I think-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, I don't support boycotts. You know what boycotts are, they are just a way of shutting down and silencing people that you don't agree with. Dan Bongino, you know this as well as anybody. BONGINO: Yes. I mean, it's almost the greatest thing that can happen to your business these days, is to have some of these silly liberal groups boycott you. I mean, Sean, I went to go and get a chick-fil-a sandwich after the chick-fil-a boycott Willie is talking about, the line was around the corner, up in Frederick in Maryland. It took me two hours to get a sandwich. I wish I have known the chick-fil-a when that boycott-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I wish I've invented chick-fil-a. BONGINO: That was the dumbest boycott ever. HANNITY: I'll have more money than Willie. ROBERTSON: We all wish we own Chick-fil-a, we can agree on that. HANNITY: By the way, Cracker Barrel is another one. I mean, look at Cracker Barrels, everyone wants to go there. BONGINO: Right. HANNITY: All right. So, what's up with the Robertson's. How is everybody is doing there? ROBERTSON: Everybody is fantastic. We are ready for Thanksgiving. And that means honing seasons here. So, we're back in the woods and still doing what we do. HANNITY: We're doing what we do. Sit around, eat a lot, pray and-- ROBERTSON: And cheese (Ph). HANNITY: -- have a great business. You know what, Dan and I work too hard. We weren't smart like you. ROBERTSON: Save it, save it. HANNITY: Save it. BONGINO: This is guy is a genius, man. HANNITY: All right. Good to see you both. All right, when we come back, more HANNITY right back after this quick break. Stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Quick programming note. Be sure to tune in tomorrow night at 9 p.m. Eastern. Senator Lindsey Graham will be joining us, along with the House intel committee chairman Devin Nunes. And you don't want to miss that. Here's the question. How do we have what we know to be crimes committed. Will the Republicans follow through? The bigger question is, will there be equal justice and application of our laws. We will get into that. We'll see if the Mueller questions are answered and much more tomorrow night. As always, thanks for being with us. Always fair, balanced, not the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is in our nation's capital, clean and healthy. Load-Date: November 20, 2018 End of Document President Trump's New Approach On Governance, As The Uniter-in- Chief, But Still Gets Criticized No Matter What As The Democrats Deny His Accomplishments; Protest In Portland As Antifa Targets A Journalist; It Is Identity Politics For The Democrats As Their Focus On 2020; Detroit Education Board Removes Ben Carson's Name From School; Portion Of Migrant Caravan Reaches Tijuana; Analysts Examine Criticism Of Women Voters For Trump As Being Racist Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 19, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8066 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Matt Schlapp, Candace Owens, Raymond Arroyo, Monica Crowley Guests: Chris Hahn, Andy Ngo, Carol Swain, Leo Terrell, Paloma Zuniga, Art Del Cueto, Rochelle Ritchie Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Will the Republicans follow through? The bigger question is will there be equal justice and application of our laws? We will get into that. We'll see if the Mueller questions are answered and much more tomorrow night. As always, thanks for being with us. Always fair, balanced, not the destroy-Trump media and let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is in our nation's capital, clean and healthy. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, I have a question for you. When you make your turkey, do you stuff the bird ahead of time or do you just do like that stove top deal on the stove? HANNITY: No. No. I personally cook the turkey every Thanksgiving. It is called master belt. It has come out with a butterball turkey fryer. INGRAHAM: OK, we heard this. We heard this before. HANNITY: OK, no, no. You can take a 20 to 25-pound turkey. It's done in two hours. It is the best turkey in your life. INGRAHAM: What about stuffing? Stuffing. I got the turkey part. What about the stuffing? HANNITY: You make the stuffing separately and then you put it in after. INGRAHAM: Then what do you put in it? Do you put apples? Do you put the giblets in? Do you grind the giblets yourself? I mean, how do you do that? HANNITY: Do you want the Hannity -- do you want to spend the next hour going over the Hannity family Thanksgiving Day secret recipe? INGRAHAM: Yes. I think people are much more interested in this. I think people are frankly sick of politics and they want to talk Hannity's stuffing recipe. That is a -- that's the ticket. HANNITY: I am telling you, you've not -- turkey is dry but when you deep fry the turkey, the butterball master belt, it's the best thing you've ever eaten, ever! INGRAHAM: All right. Well, send me some FedEx because I'm going to a buffet -- HANNITY: I will mail it. It will taste great after. INGRAHAM: All right, Hannity, great show tomnight. HANNITY: Have a good show. INGRAHAM: All right. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is "The Ingraham Angle" from Washington tonight. Trump, the uniter-in-chief? What? My "Angle" is going to explain how this could happen and how this could be the path forward for this president. Plus, have Democrats completely abandon the white vote? Well, we are going to bring you a debate over a new piece that sheds light on how the party has further embraced identity politics ahead of 2020. And Hollywood is calling for a boycott of the entire state of Georgia. Oh, that's all. Plus, a new type of pants that solves an age old problem. And the smells and bells are in a special Monday night edition of "Seen and Unseen" with Raymund Arroyo. But first, time for the uniter-in-chief. That's the focus of tonight's "Angle." Over the weekend, President Trump visited fire ravaged California accompanied by Democratic Governor Jerry Brown and Governor-elect Gavin Newsom. The president was clearly moved by the extent of the devastation. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Nobody would've ever thought this could have happened. So, the federal government is behind you. We are all behind each other. I think we can say truly, Jerry, right? Jerry and I have been speaking and Gavin and I have now gotten to know each other and were all going to work together and we will do a real job. But this is very sad to see. As far as the lives are concerned, nobody knows quite yet. They are up to a certain number but we have a lot of people that are unaccounted for. I think we are all in the same path. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What was unexpected was how Governor Brown and Governor-elect Newsom responded to their day with the president. And of course his personal interest in the tragedy. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JERRY BROWN, GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA: I really appreciate the president being here and putting the focus and the spotlight on probably the worst tragedy that California has ever seen. GAVIN NEWSOM, GOVERNOR-ELECT OF CALIFORNIA: There is no politics being played here. The expectation going forward that the federal government is not just going to be here today with all of you but tomorrow and over the course of the next few years as we rebuild. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, sure the cynics are going to say this is all just a show because Brown and Newsom, they know they are going to need the federal government's help to recover from the worst fires in the state's history, but still, it was nice to see. In the last few weeks, notwithstanding some ill-advised tweets about Adam Schiff's name and retired Navy Admiral William McRaven, President Trump seems to be projecting a different dimension of himself. Understanding now that he has the Democrat house and he has to contend with that, might President Trump be trying a new approach to governance? Should he? Will this change minds grow support for his economic agenda? It's clearly working. But beyond all of that, wouldn't it be good for the country? I get the sense may be you do to that Americans have undoubtedly grown weary of how politics has infected so much of our daily lives. Not that it's not important, it obviously is or I wouldn't be doing this every night. But it's not everything. And it shouldn't be a blood sport every single day. The president doesn't need to swing at every pitch. Nor does he need to respond to every unfair criticism no matter how vile it is. Not even when it comes from self-absorbed media figures. Now this Thursday is supposed to be a time when we all gather around the table to give thanks. Not to get stuffing thrown at us by cousin Helen or Uncle Joe who is in a white rage about the president's views on climate change or something. And may be, just may be, the president has decided to modestly recalibrate his approach to his job and find places where both parties can agree even as the critics persist. Now, believe me, I am not saying he should change his goals on core issues like trade or immigration. He is doing great on both. But he could be changing how he pursues them. I think the president needs more happy, not more anxious, voters going into 2020. A recent Morning Consult poll showed that 64 percent of voters believe the media have divided the country while 56 percent, not an insignificant number, blame the president. Now, it's not surprising that nearly two-thirds of Americans blame the press given how biased and how completely unbalanced most of them are, and they have been towards this president since the beginning. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN HOST: President Trump is ratcheting up his anti- immigration rhetoric using the White House podium to stoke fear. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Look, I don't know whether this president is anti- Semite or not. I get asked that a lot. I think we all do. I also know that he has said things that are heard as dog whistles by anti-Semites. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He goes on television and pronounces himself a nationalist. Nationalist -- that word has been used in many ways. It was used by the American Nazi party. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, the vitriol from both the hard left and the media and yes, there are some overlap there, is spewed even as President Trump has attempted bipartisan outreach on issues such as immigration reform. Remember, the Democrats rejected it last February. You know, others might have responded to the political stonewalling by the Democrats with a "to hell with the whole bipartisan thing." But not Trump. He is undeterred, trying to find common ground, announcing his support last week of an issue that Democrats once heartily clamored for. I'm talking about criminal justice reform. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Americans from across the political spectrum can unite around prison reform legislation that will reduce crime while giving our fellow citizens a chance at redemption, so if something happens and they make a mistake, they get a second chance at life. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: This got about as much coverage as his visit to California this weekend. In other words, not that much. Not one senate Democrat attended the White House announcement which I found to be a disgrace. This political slight was not lost by the way on Senator Cory Booker's home paper. Today, the Star-Ledger wrote the following, "Booker, who has made a huge issue about justice reform, should have gone to the White House and showed bipartisanship. Democrats can engage with the White House and show independence at the same time." Apparently not. The left's new strategy is to completely deny that Trump has accomplished anything positive and to deny him any cooperation even on issues where they agree. Now, how sick is that? Only a few fair-minded liberals like CNN's Van Jones who worked with the White House, including Jared Kushner, on this bill, actually celebrated the accomplishment. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) VAN JONES, CNN HOST: President Trump said listen, if this is going to make streets safer, if it's going to give people a fair chance, if some of these forgotten men and women, some of them are in Appalachia as well. Let's do something. And so listen, I think you got to give him some credit. I will give him a salute and an applause. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And for that statement of support, Jones was lacerated. Professor Crystal Marie Fleming tweeted "Give the white supremacist misogynist his due, Van Jones says." Others were equally unhinged. Michael Harriet at "The Root" saying no, Van Jones, I do not have to give the racist-in-chief his due. So much for common cause. By the way, for all you looking like to the Obama presidency through these rose-colored glasses today, this is what the country felt about the state of America six years into Obama's presidency. Fifty-five percent said Obama had done more to divide than unite the country. Well? Now, this is something the president at the time said he had to admit when he gave his final state of the union address. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It's one of the few regrets of my presidency that the rancor and suspicion between the parties has gotten worse instead of better. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, are things today worse? Maybe. And both folks from both parties, they could do better, including the president. Including me, all of us, I guess. And we should celebrate though the president because he is trying to reach across the aisle. Criminal justice reform is just one of the examples. And just because haters on the left are going to ridicule him or belittle the president's efforts, it's no reason for the president to back off. His trip to California, prison reform, his work to lift the standard of living of minority communities, it's all positive signs. There are those who will work overtime to deflect and demean any efforts by this president to broaden his appeal. And most importantly, to broaden the appeal of his policies that, again, are working. I say let the critics do what the critics are going to do. This will make them look petty and just pure partisan. Reagan appealed to women and minorities by smiling through the storm, always keeping the focus on the lives of everyday Americans. Trump calls them the forgotten people, their families, their jobs, their neighborhoods, their faith. By taking the focus off himself and keeping it on the horizon of possibility, the president will unmask the real dividers and give voters more of what they are hungering for: unity through strength. And that's the "Angle." Here now, Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union, Candace Owens, communications director for Turning Points USA and Chris Hahn, former aide to Senator Chuck Schumer. Matt Schlapp, let's start with you. I think the president has shown frankly often times enormous restraint, given how radical the left has become and how much they resist giving any credit or any pretense even of wanting to work with him on issues, even an issue as powerful as criminal justice reform. MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: That's right, and the American Conservative Union has been taking the lead on that important issue. I think it must be tough to be the president because when he turns on his television set at night, except for this show and a few other shows, and when he reads the paper the morning, 90 percent of it is just an indictment and an attack on everything he is and everything he stands for. And I think you're righ. I think he's got to take it all and understand that the American people love his agenda. They want him to push hard. And I think he would do the country a lot of good if his leadership could also include the fact, look, Nancy Pelosi or another Democrat most likely will be leading the Democrats in the House. They are going to be the majority party. Let's work on infrastructure. Let's work on China as a national security foe and let's get criminal justice reform passed. I think it would show the country that on some matters, partisanship and what party you are in, it just isn't as important as getting something done to the country. INGRAHAM: Chris, back in June, there was a piece I came across today when I was getting ready for the show from "The Atlanta Journal-Constitution." It's a column written by Lee Raudonis. Here was the title, "Why Trump Can Never Unite the U.S." "While the political divide between Republicans and Democrats has been going for many years, Trumps entrance onto the political stage has raised the intensity of the division to a level that would've been impossible to predict just a few short years ago." Well, I've got to say, you know, we got Obamacare ran through without a single Republican vote. I think the stimulus had like one vote. Seminal pieces of legislation had virtually no Republican support, totally upended a seventh of our economy. That was pretty divisive stuff from Obama, was it not, Chris? CHRIS HAHN, FORMER AIDE TO SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER: I don't think so. I think most Americans now understand that that was actually the right thing, which is why they sent Democrats to Congress this year. I think that the president should do more to reach across the aisle. I met the president before he was president. I found him very engaging and very charming. And I think that if he engaged more and didn't like, you say, swing at every pitch thrown at him, I think he could do better and I think he would do better as president. I think he'd get more accomplished. I think this criminal justice reform measure that he passed, I will be one of the progressives that say that's a great thing. I think it's great for our country. I think it's great for a lot of people who have been thrown away. INGRAHAM: Where were the Democrats? Where were the Democrats? The fact that Cory Booker does -- and Chris, I'm not, you know, ranting at you here. It's just frustrating because I knew Cory Booker. I knew Cory Booker, Candace, when he was the third way kind of Democrat. He was the old Clinton out from formulation. He was a third way Democrat. He was interesting. He was innovative. He was moderate on a lot of issues. He could work with Republicans, Candace. He doesn't even show up for this, couldn't be bothered, Candace. CANDACE OWENS, COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR, TURNING POINT USA: I mean, that's what we are seeing. And look, I am under the impression that I believe very much that Trump is a wartime president. He is like Winston Churchill, he is like Harry S. Truman. So people say, he shouldn't attack, you know, he shouldn't go on the offense so much. But he should because he's exposing the people that have in fact been at the helm of all of this divisive rhetoric in this country. In many ways, I think that history will favor the president. They will show the reason that he won, is because he was serving a united message. This is a message that the politicians perhaps don't understand, that the swamp does not understand, that perhaps the Hollywood elite does not understand. But the American people do. We understand exactly what he's doing and that's why we support him and that's why he is in the White House today. INGRAHAM: Yes. My view on this is being tough, that's great. We all love it, tough, strong president. But, you know, you don't have to like ridicule Adam Schiff's name. There is plenty about Adam Schiff you can take issue with substantively. And Matt, I'll go with you on this. That's a kind of thing -- well, that's just an unforced error. There's no reason enough to do that. I'm not going to harp on it, but that's the kind of -- it detracts from all the progress, economic progress and the stuff he's doing that is good stuff. There's no reason for it. I know it's tempting and we all get in that mode, I mean, I have done it too, but I don't think there's any -- he's not advancing his own cause into the areas of the country, among women, among minorities, in my view, on that, but you know, maybe people have a different view. SCHLAPP: I think when it comes to the investigation of which has gone for basically his entire presidency, I think the entire nation has had enough. I think it's interesting, Laura, Democrats didn't run 30-second ads on Russian collusion or Robert Mueller. We are all done with it. I think what you're saying here, opening in your anger is look, when the president is the commander-in-chief, when the president is our leader and he goes to California and consoles people who are having devastation, everyone in America is rooting him on. And when the president stands up for things like criminal justice reform, I think he's going to get more Americans to route him on and I think there has been so much more bandwidth people have on issues and he ought to focus on the most important ones. INGRAHAM: Yes. Chis. HAHN: So Laura, you know, Democrats ran on health care. Republicans ran like Democrats are evil. I think Candace had it right. The president is a wartime president. We are at war in Afghanistan. He is not at war with people of the opposing party. We might sometimes disagree. The election is over and it's time for us now to try to move the country forward and find common ground. Every good president that has faced a defeat like this president has in a midterm has moderated their positions, moved to the center, found common ground and got reelected. If he doesn't move to the center -- INGRAHAM: What? Obama lost 63 -- whoa, whoa, whoa. Obama lost 63 seats -- HAHN: And he moved to the center. INGRAHAM: How did he moderate his position? He ran against Mitt Romney who rode off half the country with the surreptitiously recorded, you know, statement. And then I don't think Obama moderated at all. I don't see any example of how he moderated. I mean, I don't see -- HAHN: If he hadn't moderated, he wouldn't have gotten re-elected. INGRAHAM: I don't think so. HAHN: The fact that the president -- (CROSSTALK) SCHLAPP: That's ridiculous. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: All right, Candace, last word. Let's got top Candace for the last word. Candace, can this president unite -- go ahead. OWENS: I absolutely do believe that he can unite and I believe that we are at war. The war is ideological. We are up against cultural Marxism in this country and that is what the president is fighting day in and day out. HAHN: Ridiculous. OWENS: And look, people like to say that we should not be, you know, he should not be tweeting, but that's why he won. He won because he understands and he is harnessing the power of social media in the same way that FDR harnessed the power of the radio and in the same way that J.F. Kennedy harnessed the power of T.V. So he understands what he's doing. I think that that's the reason he's going to win again in 2020. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, thank you so much. HAHN: Not at war with other Americans. INGRAHAM: All right, well, you got to expand that base, keep expanding, focus on the American people. I think that's, I mean, that's my old boss and that's what he did and I'm sticking to it. All right, while the president was touring the charred neighborhoods of California with two Democratic leaders, the far left was engaged in violent protest just north of him in Portland, Oregon. Take a look at these shocking videos from just this past weekend. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't touch me. Don't touch me. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Get out of my walkway. I am trying to walk. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go ahead. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How about you get the (BLEEP) out of here, Andy. TEXT: You parents would be embarrassed by you -- and your grandparents -- who have been oppressed by white men throughout history. You should be shamed of yourself. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why should I be ashamed of myself? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because you are an Asian giving into white supremacy (BLEEP). UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're a little anti-Islamic fascist (BLEEP). (CROSSTALK) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The man who shot those wild scenes, Andy Ngo, will join us next. Stay there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Second Avenue are closed. (BLEEP). Get back (inaudible) square or any other place that is not closed. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The man who shot those wild scenes, Andy Ngo, joins us to tell us what he saw. Andy, now these folks have began to target you for just filming this in Portland where you have this "Men Too" protest and then some Antifa masked fool showed up. Tell us what happened. ANDY NGO, JOURNALIST: Yes. So on Saturday, hundreds of people affiliated with Antifa and other far-left movements descended on downtown Portland to protesting event that was meant to bring attention to men who have been falsely accused of sex crimes. Now, for your viewers who might be wondering why an event like that would've gone to such a vicious backlash in Portland. Well, to set the context, Portland is a progressive monoculture here and the resistance is mainstream. The so-called resistance is mainstream. And so, it's used as a rallying cry and people actually think that they are in a cosmic battle with so-called fascists , hence, (inaudible) Antifa and that's how they (inaudible) these people to come out and fight. INGRAHAM: But Andy, Andy, they are most fascistic -- Andy, Andy -- NGO: Yes. INGRAHAM: Andy, these are the most fascistic people out there because they don't tolerate any dissent. I think you're being there filming this, you are the resistance. You are resisting, as you called it, the monoculture in Portland, Oregon. And when they were descending upon you, did the police stepped in to the kind of separate people? Were you there by yourself? NGO: So, Antifa has a lot of cheer leaders in the media and broadcast media, they have Doe Lemon on CNN. Here they have the local left-wing press, and because I've dedicated the past two years to shining a light on their ideologies and tactics are the compass on a non grata. So when they saw me, they encircled me. They tried to intimidate me. They pushed me around and then when they saw that I wasn't having any of it, they eventually sprayed me and my camera equipment with silly string. And all the while, dozens and dozens of police officers were all around me, an arms length away and they didn't do anything because there is a policy in place where they don't -- they are not allowed to escalate the situation. And that type of policy is why last month you saw there was viral footage coming out of Portland of people commandeering our streets and assaulting people basically with impunity. INGRAHAM: Of course they are. I mean, this is -- but what is it about Portland that is so wild now? I mean, it's a monolith. There's no real resistance except for a pocket of people. Why Portland? NGO: Because -- it's important to say that it's an ideological monoculture. So a lot of the people here have really little to no experience interfacing with conservatives. So when they hear that somebody who's putting on an event and that person happens to be pro Donald Trump, in their eyes, in their ears, they are hearing that it's a fascist event -- INGRAHAM: So, Hitler -- NGO: So they come out with weapons, with bottles of urines, with sticks, with bear mace, ready to fight because they really think that they are in a cosmic battle on the streets. INGRAHAM: No, no, because they are up against Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, you know, the KKK all wrapped into one and one moment it is Trump. The next moment it is you for filming it. And it's craziness. It's got to stop. Andy, stay safe out there. Thank you for joining us tonight. And I want to return to the Democrats new plan for 2020. Abandon and demonize half the country. An illuminating piece in "Politico" today points out how identity politics have come to dominate the party's new power structure, writing "White and nonwhite Democratic hopefuls are shrugging off warnings that embracing so-called identity politics could distract from the party's economic message and push white voters further into Donald Trump's arms." Joining us now, Dr. Carol Swain, is a former professor of political science at Vanderbilt University Law School and civil rights attorney Leo Terrell. Leo, let's start with you. Is this a direction that you want to see your party go? LEO TERREL: I want to see it go like you've been trying to tell Mr. President Trump throughout this your entire program. Trump place identity politics. He has sent out coded message. The Democrats welcome his identity politics and they are intersecting race, identity and social issues such as criminal justice. They are challenging whites to join up because Trump has alienated every base in this country. I've been watching your show. You see it, Laura. You have been trying to send Trump a message. He plays identity politics and the Democrats are seizing on it. Final point, Orange County, also known as Reagan country, is now all blue, Laura Ingraham. Orange County, California. All blue. Ask yourself why. INGRAHAM: I am aware that it has turned all blue. There are a lot of reasons for that. Democrats also lost the south over a period of time. That had to be, you know, slowly, slowly worked on by the Democratic Party. Politics is not a zero-sum game. It changes over time, Leo. You know that as well as I do, but Carol, you have been very vocal especially on social media discussing why you think African-Americans need to maybe in some cases look a second time at Donald Trump because of what he's done just on the issue of the economy, with black people and helping minorities have a better standard of living. CAROL SWAIN, FORMER POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR: Yes, I am an enthusiastic supporter of President Trump and we already see movements of blacks, especially black men supporting the president. And as far as identity -- INGRAHAM: Go ahead, sorry. SWAIN: As far as identity politics, the political left has been playing that for the last two decades on university campuses and they have taken it now to the electorate. And I think that it polarizes, its tribalism and it doesn't serve the interests of Americans. And so it's not Donald Trump, it's the political left, and they are destroying America in the process. INGRAHAM: But Leo, Leo, Leo, I want you to respond to Carol. Hold on. I want you to respond to Carol, but she was referencing what's happening on college campuses, whether it is Berkeley, what's happening at some of the Ivy League schools. People are literally afraid to speak out. They are afraid. If they are conservative and you are on a college campus, maybe you are a Christian conservative or some evangelical kid, you are afraid to say anything. You are afraid to speak. That can't be liberal, right? TERRELL: Laura, I saw the same numbers that you saw in the midterms. White college students voted Democrat. White males with college degrees and females they voted Democrat this year. Laura, you know the story -- SWAIN: Because they have been shamed -- because they have been shamed and intimidated. TERRELL: Oh, come on. SWAIN: They have been brainwashed. TERREL: We are not doing that (inaudible). Shame on you. We can't go in that (inaudible). They are not ashamed. You hear what she's saying? She' saying that white college people are being brainwashed on national TV. Laura, you don't believe that. You don't believe that, Laura. INGRAHAM: Leo, what did both Hillary Clinton, and we have a segment coming up, we're going to talk about a Kirsten Powers said about white women, that they are too stupid or too naive and the fact that they voted for Trump, they must be racist. I mean, who is playing identity politics more than the left saying that a black person can't support Trump, your self- loathing, or a white woman can't support Trump, you're a racist. And you're saying Donald Trump is the problem? You've got to be kidding me. TERRELL: What I am saying, Laura Ingraham, is that white females supporters -- INGRAHAM: You can just call me Laura, by the way. There's no other Laura onset. TERRELL: OK, Laura, pal, friend, whites supported Trump in 2016, but in 2018, they left him. And for my opponent here, you are talking about blacks are moving towards Trump -- when he does criminal justice reform, I'll vote Republican, OK. We he actually talks, when he puts pen to paper, I'll vote for Trump in 2020. SWAIN: He's done more for blacks than President Obama and previous Democrats. TERRELL: Oh, please. Those are talking points. SWAIN: And blacks are waking up, blacks are waking up to the fact that the Democrat Party has used them as pawns, and Donald Trump -- INGRAHAM: Hey, guys -- TERRELL: That's a monolithic -- that's a monolithic analogys. INGRAHAM: Guys -- TERRELL: When he gets criminal justice reform, I'm voting for Trump. Criminal justice reform, I'm voting for Trump. INGRAHAM: All right, Leo. SWAIN: Civil rights activists like you are helping destroy America. White people -- TERRELL: You see that? That's talking points, Laura. That's typical talking points. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: OK, guys, one of you is going to have to stop talking for just a second. Let me just say, Leo, I'm going to take you out to dinner, OK. When you come to D.C., I am taking you out to dinner. Carol is going to come. TERRELL: Deal. INGRAHAM: Carol, I'm going to fly you in. We are all going to have a meal together, OK? But Leo, you will vote for Trump, because I'm telling you he is going to get this criminal justice reform, I believe he's going to get it passed. And he's going to get some Democrat support. Watch. TERRELL: I am recording this program, Laura. I am recording this program. INGRAHAM: Make America great again, Leo. TERRELL: All right, good. Here we go. INGRAHAM: Guys, it's great to have you on. You are both wonderful guests. And coming up, a special Monday night edition of "Seen and Unseen" with Raymond Arroyo up next. Don't go away. INGRAHAM: It is time for a special Monday edition of "Seen and Unseen" where we expose the big cultural stories of the day. Secretary Ben Carson's name may be coming off a school in Detroit, Hollywood is calling for a boycott of Georgia, and some new jeans could make Thanksgiving more pleasant. For all the details, we are joined by Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series. Raymond, why is detroit planning to remove Ben Carson's name from a local school? What? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Of all the people, nice Ben Carson, the neurosurgeon, now HUD secretary, the Detroit Education Board, Laura, voted six to one to remove his name from a school that it has been on since 2011. It's the Ben Carson High School of Science and Medicine. You would think that would be OK. Well, they feel the people of Detroit are out of sync with the Trump administration and therefore Ben Carson must go. Of all the cabinet members, who could be more mild and inspirational, frankly, than Ben Carson? Here is a little bit of his talk about the mind and the importance of initiative. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BEN CARSON, HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT SECRETARY: The human brain, if you have an average brain, you are capable of almost anything, because of the complexity of our brains, billions and billions of neurons, hundreds of billions of interconnections. With something like that sitting up here, why would you ever alter the words "I can't." (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's very dangerous. ARROYO: Ben Carson, he is a Detroit native, Laura. A man who came up from poverty. He became head of pediatric neurology at Johns Hopkins. He separated Siamese twins. Why wouldn't you leave his name? But you know what it shows -- political assassins willing to take a strike people's memory, names, images because they disagree political. The other day it was Robert E. Lee. Today not even Ben Carson is safe. I don't like this idea of targeting political opponents this way no matter who is in charge. INGRAHAM: Ben Carson -- first of all, we haven't seen much of Ben Carson. I want to see more of Ben Carson. Where is he, by the way? I like him but I don't see enough of him. Raymond, shortly before Stacey Abrams' defeat in the Georgia governor's race, Frank Rich tweeted, quote, "If Kemp wins Georgia, Hollywood should put its money where its mouth is and pull all production out of the state." I thought Frank Rich was such a great reviewer, such a great writer, but this is so sad to me. This is getting completely out of hand. What's going on? ARROYO: It started a bandwagon effect. Now a lot of Hollywood stars, Alyssa Milano and others, Ron Perlman, they've jumped on the bandwagon. Alyssa Milano tweeted "There are 20 productions shooting in Georgia. Is the entertainment industry willing to defer the economy of a totally corrupt state that suppresses democracy, where the winner isn't the best choice for the people but the best schemer or crook?" I want to stop here for a second. Imagine if the people of the United States look to California and said this is a corrupt state. These people disagree with me. Therefore, we shouldn't help them in the wake of these fires. This is an outrage. You have to give diversity and allow states to vote their own way, vote their conscience, and elect their own representatives. You don't get to bully them. INGRAHAM: This whole show tonight, we didn't even plan it this way, but the show is just revealing what the left is doing to shut down diversity of thought, and it has to be resisted if we are going to live in a free society. Raymond, real quick, tell me about these new British, can we call them dungarees? Is that allowed? Dungarees. ARROYO: This is a U.K. company called Shreddies, and they are releasing something called the flatulence filtering jeans. They actually have a charcoal lining, Laura, that, well, they erase the aroma that comes when one passes gas. And according this company, a healthy person passes gas 14 times a day. During Thanksgiving I bet during things giving that's multiplied by 12. So imagine the health advantages of these jeans. I have to read the instructions to you. We'll put them up real fast. This is the instruction, sit or stand with your legs together and let your wind out slowly. That's the way these jeans work best. So these are going to sell a lot better than Celine Dion's gender neutral demonic children's wear, I promise you. So happy Thanksgiving. INGRAHAM: This is just -- my kids can finally watch a segment on my show and laugh. Raymond, happy Thanksgiving, great to see you. Up next, the full story on the caravan that you are not hearing, of course, a dual Mexican-American citizen who has been down in Tijuana, and a border agent who just met with President Trump today join us next. Stay right there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: The caravan was a complete ruse. It was a joke. It was about fear and loathing. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This stupid caravan conspiracy theory. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And the solution to the caravan invasion all along, it wasn't the troops, it wasn't walls. It was apparently just getting past the midterm elections. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: We have long said that it's easy to want to welcome everyone into this country from your TV studios in Manhattan. But it's a far different reality when they are now living among you. Just ask the people of Tijuana. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CROWD: Mexico! Mexico! Mexico! UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): What Donald Trump said is true. It's an invasion. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining us now is a dual Mexican-American citizen who has been documenting what's been going on in Tijuana, Paloma Zuniga, and Art Del Cueto, vice president of the Border Patrol union who met the president today. Paloma, tell us a little bit of what you have seen just over the past few days down there. PALOMA ZUNIGA, DUAL MEXICAN-AMERICAN CITIZEN: I have seen Mexico being furious, furious at this caravan invading. They are calling it an invasion of Mexico, an invasion of Tijuana. People are out on the streets demanding, begging our government to send these people back to their countries, because we should take care of our Mexican people before we take care of anybody else, which is a very similar sentiment as the Americans are having right now. INGRAHAM: Are you scared, by the way, that you are going to be called a racist yourself as a dual Mexican- American citizen for basically wanting Mexico to have its own sovereign space? ZUNIGA: I already get called a racist. INGRAHAM: That's great. Wow. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Art, I want to go to you here. This affects the Border Patrol once they cross into the country. The story is today that there is extra spillover coming to Yuma sector in Arizona. Last time I saw you a couple weeks ago in Arizona. You talked to the president today. What did he say? ART DEL CUETO, VICE PRESIDENT, NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL: It was a great meeting talking to him. And what's truly great is we have a president that cares. We just do. It was refreshing to talk to him. He understands what's going on. Look what he did down there to the fence down in San Diego. He put the concertina wire. I know some people have criticized him over that. INGRAHAM: They are ridiculing the wire. They are saying it is chicken wire. We need a wall. We're not getting a wall. Congress won't do it. DEL CUETO: Whoever thinks it's chicken wire, they are welcome to go down there and rub their hand down the wire and see if it's just chicken, because he did a great thing. We are happy for it. Finally people are noticing. Just watching the people down in Mexico, they are now understanding the frustrations that we have had. INGRAHAM: The media have told us -- this is why Trump calls it the fake news. It's fake news to say it wasn't a problem, Paloma. They say it's not a problem. It's not going to be here for another month, or maybe Christmastime. So they wanted this to be a massive crush of humanity at our border because they thought Trump was going to back off and let them all just rush the border. And today they shut the border down at the San Ysidro crossing, which was really gutsy of the president to do. It was a gutsy call. He made the call. It was the right call, it probably saved lives. Paloma, I want to play for our audience an interview that you did with an individual only identified as Edgar. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'll tell you that 90, 95 percent of all the residents of Tijuana are very concerned. They are very afraid of what could happen. There's no control of the crowd. The Tijuana people are scared and they are pissed off. And I can tell you people are against the caravan even at a larger rate then in California. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Paloma, DHS today said that 500 criminals at least are embedded in this caravan. I don't know how they came up with that number. We will look into that. But it doesn't surprise me. Mostly are working age men or late teenagers, it's not overwhelmingly women and children, as, again, the fake news would have us believe. ZUNIGA: Right. It's definitely not just women and children. There are men coming in. We don't know who they are. They have no I.D.s. They claim they left everything behind, so they invaded Mexico without I.D.s. Tijuana people are terrified. I know that Tijuana's life and future will forever change if this caravan happens to stay in our city that we have worked so hard for to make safe, to make clean, because we have a very American mentality in Tijuana. We love Tijuana. I've been in Tijuana since 2008, and I can tell you that Tijuana will never be the same again until these people leave. And they are definitely not crossing over to America. INGRAHAM: They are going to have to deport them. Mexico is going to have to deport them. And Art, I want to get to you on this. I've been hearing that there's now unprecedented -- it's kind of quiet for political reasons -- cooperation with Mexican authorities, the new administration, AMLO, and this administration on holding this back holding this tide of humanity back. Are you hearing that? DEL CUETO: That would be something I wouldn't be involved in, obviously. It would be operational. However, I can tell you that it's going to take a lot more than just the president. We are going to need Congress to get on board. INGRAHAM: This lame duck -- they are putting the word "lame" into lame duck. Really lame if they don't give the funding for the wall. And Paloma, this would help the people in Tijuana, it would help the safety of the people in the caravan, 100 women and children apparently are just gone, disappeared, trafficked. This is a problem. DEL CUETO: There's a lot of things that need to be done. Like I said, we had a meeting with the president earlier today. I think it was a very good meeting. I think we have a president was on board. We just need to get everything else on board. INGRAHAM: Paul Ryan, Paul Ryan, do the right thing before you leave this town and actually do something to help this country when it comes to this immigration crush. It's outrageous that this has not been solved by the Republicans who had the House and Senate and did literally almost nothing on this huge asylum problem. I'm sorry, it's a major problem, and the media were lying when they said it wasn't a problem. DEL CUETO: We need the DHS leadership to get on board. INGRAHAM: Kirstjen Nielsen, she is a nice person, but where the heck is she? DEL CUETO: Everyone had got to get on board. INGRAHAM: You've got to get Tom Homan in there, although I would miss him on the show. We've got to go. Listen up, women. A CNN commentator says that you are racist if you support the president. Oh, that is nifty. Monica Crowley, Rochelle Ritchie take on that debate after the break. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KIRSTEN POWERS, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: It is one thing to just be intolerant and have your own views and say I'm not interested in what other people think and I'm not going to talk to them. I think that's a problem and that's bad. It's an extra step to say that people cannot say or express things that you disagree with, and that's what this book is about. It's about this not only did they not want to hear it. They don't want anyone else to hear it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was Kirsten Powers when she selling a book called "The Silencing, How the Left is Killing Free Speech." She felt very strongly about it at the time. She actually wrote that in the book title. How things have changed, just three years. Now Kirsten Powers is doing her own silencing and berating white women who voted for Trump. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KIRSTEN POWERS, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: They will say I'm not racist. I just voted for him because I didn't like Hillary Clinton. And I just want to say that that's -- that doesn't make you not racist. It actually makes you racist. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, you follow that logic? We didn't even get to the patriarchy part of that. Joining me now with reaction, Monica Crowley, "Washington Times" opinion editor, and Democratic strategist Rochelle Ritchie. Monica, let's start with you. Kirsten isn't the only pundit making this claim, but she might be the most surprising given some of her past work. Your thoughts? MONICA CROWLEY, COLUMNIST, "THE WASHINGTON TIMES": I have known Kirsten for years and I like and respect her very much. But I'm incredibly disappointed in her remarks here. She seems to have dutifully submitted to CNN and its insane, dishonest agenda. There are two things that are ludicrous on its face in her remarks about, well, if you voted for Donald Trump, particularly if you are a white woman, that somehow makes you a racist. The first, Laura, is that it's the presumption Donald Trump himself is a racist, which clearly he is not. That it's all part of this massive defamation effort launched against this president from day one, and only fools believe that. The second part of this is, if you voted for him, you are a racist. By that logic, Laura, if you voted for Mrs. Clinton, you are a liar and law breaker. If you voted for Donald Trump, you are a racist, or a rapist. It is patently absurd. And it doesn't follow any logic whatsoever. I'm just very disappointed. INGRAHAM: I am beyond disappointed because what she is doing is generalizing and stereotyping, which is what the left says conservatives routinely do. I think you can be a woman and be liberal, conservative, black conservative, white liberal -- it's about what you believe. And Rochelle, I want to go to you on this. To say that women who voted for Trump are racist, she also said they are oppressed because they are part of a patriarchy. Then she said they benefit from the patriarchy. We don't have time to play that part. That didn't even make sense to me. They are oppressed but then they benefit from it. Which is it? RACHELLE RITCHIE, FORMER CONGRESSIONAL PRESS SECRETARY: Laura, I'm not going to sit here and say all white women that voted for Trump are racist. I don't believe that, so that's not going to come out of my mouth. What I will say is that I think those women who voted for Trump where he's been accused of racism, I think they don't care if he is because it does not impact their everyday lives. Taking race out of this, not talking about white women but talking about women in general that voted for Trump, it surprises me not because of their race. It surprises me because of the misogynistic comments that have come from Trump, and yet he has still been able to have some sort of support from white women or women in general. So that's the big thing to me. I'm not really sure why Kirsten made these comments because, quite frankly, this is a system she has benefited from as a white woman. INGRAHAM: Liberals didn't care about any of this after Bill Clinton, right? He became a global brand after being impeached. I just watched that A&E special on the Clintons. It was like a flashback for all of us who were covering it at the time. That wasn't really a concern back then that women can't support Bill Clinton because look what he did. Women disagree, and they disagree on these issues. Monica, close it out. CROWLEY: Feminism was supposed to be about women having the ability to do what they wanted and think the way they wanted. And I voted for Donald Trump. I am not a racist. I voted for Trump because of economic issues, trade, exiting the Iran deal, renegotiating NAFTA, and so on, and a pro- Israel stance. That's why I voted for him. INGRAHAM: Guys, thanks so much. We'll have a longer segment next time. And the craziest high school football finish. The last bite, next. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. This might have been the craziest high school football game of all time in Washington, D.C. Last night, Catholic rivals Gonzaga and DeMatha were facing off for the league crown. Gonzaga found itself down 20 to zero early on. It fought all the way back to take the lead with 30 seconds left. So it was over, right? DeMatha took the ensuing kickoff all the way back for a touchdown with 15 seconds left. Was it over again? Watch what happens. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The ball is in the air, and it is going to get there. Somebody caught that. Did somebody catch that? Gonzaga, did they catch that? Touchdown Gonzaga (INAUDIBLE) won the WCAC. On a last-second touchdown pass. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And the Gonzaga kids were actually saying the Our Father in the stands. I like that video. The Our Father then you see -- they needed to do the Hail Mary, full of grace then -- all right. Congrats to the Purple Eagles. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team, take it from here, Shannon. Load-Date: November 20, 2018 End of Document Crisis At The Southern Border; Outrageous Attack On ICE; Avenatti Arrested; New Developments In The Mueller Investigation; Immigration Is Always A Hot Issue Between Two Parties In America; Republicans Want Immigration Reform But Democrats Always Oppose The Proposal Being Laid By The Other Side; The Hypocrisy In The Media Is Overwhelming Over The Case Now With Michael Avenatti Who Was Accused Of Alleged Domestic Abuse; The Presumption Of Innocence And Due Process That Avenatti Wants To Take From Judge Kavanaugh Is Now The Exact Situation He Is Facing; Hollywood Elites Continue With Their Anti-Trump Campaign, And Sometimes Even Going Too Far, Like Madonna Who Says She Thought Hard Of Blowing Up The White House Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 15, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7116 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Trace Gallagher, Ari Fleischer, Monica Crowley, Geraldo Rivera, Herman Cain Guests: Herman Cain, Piers Morgan Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. I'll watch it, what was it, the cranberries? Everyone needs to be careful. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Fermented crab apples. HANNITY: And frogs, too. CARLSON: Exactly. HANNITY: Exactly. All right. Thank you, Tucker. And, all right, my opening monologue in just a moment but first -- the FOX News alert. The migrant caravan continues to move north through Mexico towards our Southern border. Trace Gallagher joins us from our West Coast newsroom tonight with the very latest -- Trace. TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Sean, hundreds of Central American migrants, maybe more than a thousand, can now see U.S. soil, but they remained in Mexico, at the Tijuana border. Many said they expected to see an Army waiting on the U.S. side, but instead, were being surveilled by Border Patrol agents and helicopters, while U.S. contractors used barbed wire to reinforce the existing fence. So far, the only conflict was a fight between some migrants and local Mexicans telling them to go home but it appears they will be here for a while. The asylum application process at Tijuana border is already six weeks and that's just initial interviews. Nobody is sure how long the wait time will become when the caravan of 4,000 to 5,000 arrives late next week. Even U.S. social workers who came to Tijuana to help say the migrants got bad advice to come north. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Somebody has to let them know, hey, it's not going to be easy, because it's not. (END VIDEO CLIP) GALLAGHER: Yes, we know there are members of immigration advocacy groups, embedded with the caravans, coaching migrants, which is likely why many have turned down offers of jobs and asylum in Mexico, opting instead to go to California to take advantage of sanctuary laws. Though we should note, more than a dozen members of the caravan were arrested late last night after sneaking across the border into the mountains near San Diego -- Sean. HANNITY: All right. Trace Gallagher on the West Coast newsroom tonight -- thank you. It is a big breaking news night. We have a lot to cover. We just saw the report, the crisis of the southern border is escalating tonight as we speak. Now, coming up, we're going to show you horrific new video illustrating just why it is so important to secure our southern border. And meanwhile, a Democratic presidential hopeful just compared ICE to the KKK. And tonight, we'll have the very latest developments surrounding Michael Avenatti, who is facing felony domestic abuse charges. We will point out the left's glaring due process double standard in this country. And we have new to elements from the Mueller witch hunt. There will be no more recounts by the way in Florida's gubernatorial election. Republican Ron DeSantis is now officially the governor-elect. Buckle up. Time for our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. The crisis at our southern border is growing more serious every day. In Arizona, over 650 illegal immigrants crossing the border, were just detained in just the last 48 hours. And according to our own William LaJeunesse, a dozen members of the caravan were arrested Wednesday night near San Diego for crossing the border illegally. Remember, only the first few hundred migrants have arrived. We are expecting a couple thousand in just the next few days and then many more after that. Let me be clear. I have said I really believe the vast majority of people in this caravan are probably people that are poor, they have good intentions, they're looking for a life for themselves, their family, a good job, a better future. And there is for us a massive security risk. Now, criminals also will take advantage of unchecked, unvetted migration into our country. We see it every day. Look at what happened in Arkansas on Sunday. At 29-year-old illegal immigrant opening fire on officers during a traffic stop outside of Fayetteville. We have the dashcam footage. But be warned, this video is disturbing. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (GUNFIRE) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Shots fired! I need units now. (END VIDEO CLIP HANNITY: This is why they talk about vetting people before they come into the country. Thankfully, no officers were injured. The perpetrator was taken into custody. But this act of violence is unacceptable, and the very reason secure our borders, a strong system of vetting are vitally important. When I sat through a security briefing in Texas with Rick Perry, 642,000 crimes they had documented in the seven- year period of time. Some not serious, but some very serious, going up to murder. That's in one state. And while most Americans support common sense border security measures, far left Democrats are continuing to demonize those who are just trying to protect us and enforce our laws. Take for example, California Senator Kamala Harris, who just literally compared ICE to the KKK in the sense that, don't you think there is a perception problem that ICE seems likely KKK? Well, speaking with the nominee to lead that agency. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Klan was what we would call today a domestic terrorist group. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: Why? Why would we call them a domestic terrorist group? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because they tried to use fear and force to change political environment. HARRIS: And what was the motivation for the use of fear and force? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was based on race and ethnicity. HARRIS: Right. Are you aware of the perception of many about how the power and the discretion at ICE is being used to enforce the laws? Do you see any parallels? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I do not see any parallels between sworn officers and agents -- HARRIS: I'm talking about perception. I'm talking about perception. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I do not see a parallel between what is constitutionally mandated as it relates to enforcing the law. HARRIS: Are you aware that there is a perception? Are you aware that there is a perception? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I see no perception that puts ICE in the same category as the KKK. Is that what you're asking me? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That senator wants to be your next president. Now, what you saw is beyond despicable. Now, to be that patronizing, frankly, idiotic, utterly disrespectful, too many women in law enforcement that put their lives on the line for us every single solitary day is shameful. How many border agents have been injured or killed performing their daily work? It's exactly what I've been warning you about. This is the most radical crop of Democrats who have ever come to Washington. Instead of respecting our laws, our sovereignty, our constitution, they push for open borders, sanctuary cities and states, and without a doubt, they are saying they want to abolish ICE, the very organization responsible for enforcing our system of immigration laws. They don't care how much it costs, what danger it poses to you, the American people. They want wide open borders. And tonight, Kamala Harris might have one less challenger in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary. Yesterday, fame-seeking anti-Trump attorney Michael Avenatti, he was arrested on charges of felony domestic violence. Now, these are very serious charges. But unlike him, and many others that were so willing to rush to judgment and never afforded Justice Kavanaugh due process, their presumption of innocence, we on this show are consistent. Every American deserves due process. Every American deserves that presumption of innocence. Yes, even if you don't agree with them politically, someone like Michael Avenatti. He deserves it, you deserve it, everybody deserves it, and guess what? Judge Kavanaugh deserved it, and didn't get it. Now, the rush to judgment, this is a dangerous thing in this country. Remember Richard Jewell, falsely accused of being the lone bomber in the Olympic Park bombing an '96. He fit the profile of the lone bomber because he lived with his mother. I didn't know at that time, he was listening to my radio show, and I was saying, that makes no sense. It turned out he was a hero. He wasn't the bomber. I found out later, he told me, I was the only one, listening to the show, that stood out for him, and at least gave him a fair shot, the presumption of innocence. By the way, you might remember the Duke lacrosse team. They were falsely smeared. On our show, we didn't rush to judgment. And I took the time to go and meet with some of the kids and their families to do some investigative work. And let's not forget what the left did in Ferguson, police officer Darren Wilson was never charged in that case. His career was ruined anyway. Remember what happened in Baltimore? Everyone rush to judgment, all those officers were guilty of what happened with Freddie Gray. None of them convicted. How many times did the president at the time, Obama, rush to judgment with Cambridge police acting stupidly? During every big moment, so many people on the left, if it fits their political agenda, if it's politically expedient, if they can get cheap political points, they rush to judgment? Just for political gain. No presumption of innocence ever with these people when it comes to politics. So yes, Michael Avenatti deserves due process. He deserves the presumption of innocence, even though it wasn't that long ago, he does not extend that basic decency to Justice Kavanaugh. Frankly, just the opposite. Remember, it was he that pushed at phony claim from a client named Julie Swetnick. Remember, they came out with the affidavit. At the time, by the way, Alan Dershowitz said he might have to resend this because the story started to change. And she was alleging that when Brett Kavanaugh was in high school, he participated in numerous parties, gang rape parties where girls' drugs are systematically drugged, boys lining up in the hallways, waiting their turn to gang rape their teenage victims. And she claimed it happened several times. These claims were given to the Senate Judiciary Committee in a sworn statement. None of those claims -- and none of them -- were ever corroborated. No evidence was ever presented. Swetnick later backtracked during an interview with NBC. Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley recently referred Avenatti and Swetnick now to the Department of Justice for a criminal probe into their false statements. It is clear that Avenatti -- he wanted to derail Judge Kavanaugh's life over these absurd claims. He should have gotten the full story, and how does his own client contradict what he said in an affidavit? He didn't give a rip about due process, presumption of innocence. And now, this issue has come full circle for him. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL AVENATTI, STORMY DANIELS' ATTORNEY: I have never struck a woman. I never will strike a woman. BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE: I have never sexually assaulted anyone. Not in high school, not in college, not ever. AVENATTI: I am looking forward to a full investigation, at which point I am confident that I will be fully exonerated. KAVANAUGH: I know that any kind of investigation, Senate, FBI, Montgomery County police, whatever, will clear me. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, in this country, these protections, due process, should never, ever, ever be a partisan political issue. It's not a Republican, Democrat, conservative, liberal. It must be applied to every American equally. Sadly, Avenatti wasn't the only person on the left with no forethought, no principles. And just a short time ago, so many Democrats, so many in the mainstream media, they were willing to throw out fundamental, basic rights right out the window because of an unyielding partisan hatred for Judge Kavanaugh. Remember this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a monumental, defining moment this week, when you have someone like Cosby going to prison and then in the same breath, having Kavanaugh possibly going to the highest court in the land. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am blown away. Before I saw this up, I'm like, oh come on, what could be in this guy's yearbook? Like a little nonsense. This is sick stuff. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The devil's triangle in your yearbook, forever and ever? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: These people in Congress right now, and that Senate Judiciary Committee, these white men, old, by the way, are not protecting women. They are protecting a man who is probably guilty. SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: Not only do women like Dr. Ford who bravely come forward need to be heard, but they need to be believed. They need to be believed. I just want to say to them another country, just shut up and step up. Do the right thing. SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: Let me just say right at the outset, I believe Dr. Ford. I believe the survivor her. SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: I believe her, I stand with her. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You hope she shows up on Monday? Do you hope that she testifies? GILLIBRAND: I don't think she should be bullied into this scenario, where it's a he said-she said. It's as a sham hearing. And I don't think she should participate in it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's definitely attempted rape. I don't see it any other way. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Remember, the charges against Judge Kavanaugh were from 36 years ago. Where's the outrage? Those people you just watched over somebody they politically agree with, Michael Avenatti, are they so willing to suspend these fundamental rights when it comes to claims made against him, why? Because he's a Democrat or his name is not Keith Ellison, another example? They are not charges from 36 years ago. By July of this year, when he was spewing nonstop anti-Trump vitriol, well, guess what? Michael Avenatti appeared on on cable news over 200 times. According to analysis from the "Washington Free Beacon," fake news CNN, conspiracy TV MSNBC gave Avenatti $175 million worth of free media coverage. Why did he become the star guest? Because he was trashing Donald Trump and Michael Cohen. Now what do we hear about? Crickets. Now, "NewsBusters" reports that CNN barely covered the Avenatti arrest. MSNBC also tried to ignore and play down the story. That is in stark contrast to their wall-to-wall coverage of the Swetnick allegations with no evidence of regular gang rapes and drugging of teenage girls when Kavanaugh was in high school. All right. An important issue, this is about the rule of law, equal application of the law. Let's not politicize political differences, or criminalize differences like this. This is now becoming madness. Now, let's turn to the latest out of Mueller's partisan witch hunt. Earlier today, President Trump, he was sounding off, reminding, we, the people, the American people, that there's been no finding of collusion. He also highlighted how much money and time this endless investigation is costing you, the American taxpayer. And the president went on to tweet, quote, universities will someday study what highly conflicted and not Senate approved Bob Mueller and his gang of Democratic thugs have done to destroy people. Why is he protecting crooked Hillary, Comey, McCabe, Page, and her lover Peter Strzok, and all of his friends on the other side? They have spent months digging into everything and anyone and everyone associated with President Trump while ignoring what we now know to be factual and true. That is collusion, real crimes committed by Hillary Clinton, violating the Espionage Act. Fact: the biggest, easiest a slam- dunk case as it relates to, oh, obstruction of justice, we've ever seen. Why has there been no Mueller investigation into Hillary's bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier, put together by a foreign spy, Russian intelligence sources, paid for by Hillary and the DNC that she was controlling. Why? In order to in part influence an election. You, the American people., how was that not Russian collusion? What about the dissemination of the Russian intelligence, throughout the highest levels of your government? Those Russian lies spread out to the American people before the 2016 election, to propagandize and influence people before they voted in that election, and used then to destroy President Trump after the election. What about the fraud on a FISA court? Four times, Grassley, Graham, Nunes memos. The bulk of information in those FISA warrants use the same, unverified, uncorroborated dossier that Steele under oath himself testified he had no idea it was true. This is all being ignored. Why? Because his partisan witch hunt has never really been about Russia collusion. It has been about delegitimize President Trump. He started by a guy that says heed should lose 100 million to zero in the election. The guy that exonerated Hillary, was writing an exoneration before investigation. Show me the man, I'll find you the crime. And finally tonight, we do turn to good and bad news out of Florida. First, the good news, there will be no more recounts in the gubernatorial election, barring any last-minute legal attempts to maybe steal the election, have to always assume that's a possibility. Republican Ron DeSantis is now certified, he will be the next governor of the great state of Florida. Gillum, of course, has not conceded even though he only picked up -- get this -- one vote in the recount. One vote. My sources tell me tonight that in fact Rick Scott has picked up a lot of votes in the recount. In the Senate race, the chaos continues after machine recount, well, Rick Scott remains way ahead, having picked up in fact some votes. Palm Beach County, once again, failed to meet the statutory deadline, so the original results in that county stand. But a hand count of thousands of contested or faulty ballots, those with under-over votes, that means at the top of the ticket, you are supposed to fill in the oval and there's a dot down there, you can bet that Nelson's attorney will say come you see that dot at the bottom? I think they should put it up here. That's going to be going on, the madness continues. Democratic attorneys are now pulling out all the stops to try to make up ground, which will be impossible. Following a suit, a Florida judge ordered earlier that throwing out ballots with mismatched signatures was unconstitutional. Now, this is what this means. Any liberal judge can change the law. That means ballots can change up to 11 days after the election. That is insane. In other words, he changed Florida state law from the bench. Also extending the deadline for so-called gearing contested ballots to Saturday, bringing about 4,000 votes into play, which means that 13,000 plus vote lead that, in fact, Rick Scott has, will stand. By the way, the same judge, FOX News has learned today, whose wife, Karen Walker, donated -- oh, to Senator Bill Nelson. Shouldn't he have recused himself? All right. We're going to continue to track the results out of Florida as November 20th is now the deadline to certify the election results. But you can anticipate, I am sure, more and more and more court challenges. All right. A lot of breaking news on the caravan, Avenatti, so much more. The latest out of Florida. Geraldo and Herman Cain join us next for a debate about the crisis on our southern border. Later tonight, Piers Morgan, who knows the president well, a critic and a fan. He'll tell us why, straight ahead. HANNITY: Democratic California Senator Kamala Harris, considered a top contender, supposedly, for the 2020 Democratic nomination for president, making huge waves today, suggesting that ICE, the perception of ICE, was the same perception as the Ku Klux Klan. You can't make this up. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Klan was what we would call today a domestic terrorist group. HARRIS: Why? Why would we call them a domestic terrorist group? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because they tried to use fear and force to change political environment. HARRIS: And what was the motivation for the use of fear and force? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was based on race and ethnicity. HARRIS: Right. Are you aware of the perception of many about how the power and the discretion at ICE is being used to enforce the laws? Do you see any parallels? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I do not see any parallels between sworn officers and agents -- HARRIS: I'm talking about perception. I'm talking about perception. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I do not see a parallel. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Here now with reaction, America Fighting Back chairman Herman Cain. FOX News correspondent at-large Geraldo Rivera is with us. I'm going to start with you, Geraldo. I will concede, the first wave, 80 people, I think about 900, 1,000-mile, then many more following. Let's concede, 99 percent, they want a better life, they are told they will get into America, that's why they are part of it. But we have had our own Department of Homeland Security and Mexican officials confirm that criminals are integrating into that migrant population moving here. That is a danger to every American. We see what they are doing with the fence, this was on the Mexican border -- not the fence -- knocked to the fence down and ran across the border. This is the point. We cannot have this here, you agree with me, a border wall -- but at some point, how is it possible that we had a party during the Obama years, the Democratic Party, sounding like Donald Trump today and now they are comparing it to the -- our brief law enforcement to the Klan or there is a perception that they are like the Klan? GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT-AT-LARGE: Let me start there, we agree, shame on Senator Harris, someone with great experience and obvious intellect. For her to be so intellectually lazy as to stoop to a comparison between our hardworking law enforcement, however you agree or disagree with their mission, and comparing them to a violent, racist, terrorist organization. I mean, she knows better, and she really owes everyone of those ICE agents an apology. And sooner rather than later. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Border agents get killed down there. Border agents risk their lives. RIVERA: They absolutely do. And what she said was beyond the pale. It's like one of my pet peeves is when people say, he's a Nazi, he's a KKK, it is -- it insults all the real victims of racist terrorism, in the case of the KKK, and all the people, the genocidal victims of the Nazis, the industrialized power that sought to wipe about people. So, I think that our elected officials have to leave those comparisons aside. Now, dealing with the issue, and I sense in your voice, in a way that I haven't in a while, Sean, there was a real sympathy for the vast majority of those pathetic, poor, striving people who only want pick -- HANNITY: Geraldo, I've said this all my career. RIVERA: -- or mow lawns or baby-sit, or wash dishes. HANNITY: I understand it. RIVERA: That's all they want to do. And I think the real dilemma -- and I'm sure that you will ask Herman Cain about this -- the real dilemma is, I don't think either party right now is either equipped to or has any inclination to resolve this issue. I think that both parties have dug in, there is not going to be a wall -- HANNITY: That's not true. RIVERA: -- but the Democrats won't agree with it. HANNITY: You acknowledge Donald Trump offered a deal. RIVERA: There is not going to be the Dreamer amnesty -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The wall for the Dreamers, he offered it. RIVERA: I know that, I know that, I know that. And you and I have both endorsed that deal. But I don't think that we are ever going to get there, not in the lame duck session, it won't happen, now you're going to defy the Congress -- you're going to have this issue around for a while. HANNITY: All right. Let me ask Herman. Herman, we are a nation of laws. We are a nation that has sovereignty and borders and we've got to protect it. The worst scenario I think that can unfold here is that thousands make it to our border and the scene you saw in southern Mexico unfolds here. I don't want anybody getting hurt. I don't want any confrontation. It wouldn't be good for anybody. If we had a wall with the door, and you could come in legally, we wouldn't have any of these problems. HERMAN CAIN, AMERICA FIGHTING BACK CHAIRMAN: The rare instance where Geraldo and I agree -- HANNITY: That ruins my show. CAIN: We -- (LAUGHTER) CAIN: We agree at the parallel that Kamala Harris tried to grow is absolutely despicable. There is no comparison between people trying to enter this country illegally and the KKK. So, Geraldo and I agree. Here's where we don't agree. The Republicans have tried to craft a solution to prevent this problem. They tried to put forth a solution while at the Democrats were in control of the House and the White House and the Congress. But it was the Democrats who do not want a solution. The Republicans want a solution. One other quick thing, ICE is not in the business of fighting perception. They are in the business of dealing with reality. And the reality is, our southern border is on the verge of an invasion, and that's what they are trying to fight. It has nothing to do with perception. And for Kamala Harris to talk about, this is perception, she's absolutely wrong, number one. And number two, perception has nothing to do with reality that they are trying to illegally invade our country. I respect the fact that they are trying to leave a situation where they can get a better life, but you can't get a better life by coming into this country and breaking the laws as you try to enter. SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Geraldo? GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT-AT-LARGE: I just think, Herman, with all due respect, and you know I respect you highly. I think that you can't use language like invade, at the same time speaking sympathetically about this pathetic group. These are not MS-13. Come on. We have to look and see who they are. These are the people that want to pick the apricots, they want to pick the avocados, they want to mow your lawn, they want to wash the dishes, and they want to deliver the pizzas. We have seven million jobs. They know that jobs are just there for the asking. We have fruits and vegetables dying on the vine because there aren't enough workers to do it. They see that there are jobs available, if they could just get into the United States. And we say, wait a second, you can't come in because we need process, we need procedure. And they say, but I'm hungry? You know. I think that it's a damnable difficult situation, and I'm not blaming anybody but I think that the parties -- they have to put aside their parochial differences and where I disagree to Herman is-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Geraldo, the president offered the best deal ever. RIVERA: -- the Republicans are good, the Democrats are all bad. HANNITY: I don't want to jump in the debate, it will be two on one. Which I like actually when it's two liberals against me. Last word, Herman Cain. CAIN: Here's the deal, here's the situation. It only takes one MS-13 gangster to kill an American. That's one too many and that's my point. So, I understand their plight but I do not agree with the illegality of their plight. That's where most Americans are. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I will bring back when I sat through the security briefing, 6,442 crimes. Law enforcement presented a huge presentation. I was there with Rick Perry. I've been to the border what, 10 or 11, 12 times and I've seen it all up front, all up close and personal. All right. Thank you both, Geraldo and Herman Cain. When we come back, more hypocrisy on the left. They didn't believe in due process, the presumption of innocence for Judge Kavanaugh, you won't believe by the way how some now have reacted to what happened in terms of Michael Avenatti. Also, Ari Fleischer, Monica Crowley will be here to respond. And an exclusive interview, Piers Morgan. He had to borrow my shirt to get on the show. I will explain. HANNITY: All right. Last night, Michael Avenatti was arrested on suspicion of domestic abuse charges. It didn't take long for Hollywood liberals like Alyssa Milano to disavow him, and The View co-host, well, today, suddenly, they are fans of due process. Where did this all come from? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOY BEHAR, HOST, ABC: It was very upsetting to hear this, it was very disappointing. If it proves to be true, I will disavow him. I think he should take a polygraph test just to clear the air and I think that would help him. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. BEHAR: And then we'll see what happens. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What drives me crazy is the hypocrisy in these moments, when it's who you like that you want to believe. And I think if you believe in due process with Kavanaugh then you should also believe in due process with Michael Avenatti. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We don't know a lot. We don't know who the alleged victim is but if true, I -- you know, I'm so disappointed. I'm so disappointed and I agree with you, we would have to disavow him. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Media is such a different tone especially compared to the way they treated Brett Kavanaugh. Joining us now Washington Times columnist, Monica Crowley, former White House press secretary, Ari Fleischer. Ari, you know, I'm not a registered Republican. I'm a registered conservative. Republicans screw things up a lot, they really do. One of the things I gave them credit for, they handled the Kavanaugh and Kavanaugh case with the seriousness-- ARI FLEISCHER, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Yes. HANNITY: -- it deserved. I think they did it right. They had the hearings and they went through the evidence, and now, we have a point where Avenatti, Julie Swetnick they are now being investigated. I believe in the presumption of innocence and due process, Michael Avenatti did not. FLEISCHER: Yes. HANNITY: Now you see the media tone changed. Reaction. FLEISCHER: Look, number one, I take no joy in this. Any time somebody is arrested who may go to prison that nobody should celebrate this. HANNITY: I agree. FLEISCHER: But due process, and you are innocent until proven guilty, can never be slogans in America, they must be real. They must be the way our justice system is built on that we all respect. Michael Avenatti had no respect for either, for innocent until proven guilty, or due process. And that's what he tried to do to Brett Kavanaugh. Now it's come full circle and now he has to deal with it. He's lucky that because of people like Brett Kavanaugh who believe in the Constitution, he will have his due process in his day in court. HANNITY: The one report in TMZ that could be problematic if that turns -- if that turns out to be true, is apparently when he ran in, this is the day after, and the words, "she hit me first." If that came out and that's true, Monica, that's problematic in my mind. That would be problematic for anybody. MONICA CROWLEY, COLUMNIST, WASHINGTON TIMES: Is that his defense? She hit me first? I mean, it's not-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: No, he says he didn't do any of it to be fair to him. CROWLEY: Right. Look, all of these Hollywood liberals and others who embrace Michael Avenatti as some sort of hero of the resistance, they are all learning right now that you live by the Avenatti and you die by the Avenatti. OK? He will have his -- he'll say he will have his day in court, he will have his own legal representation as he is entitled t. It's very ironic that he was first in line trying to deny that to Brett Kavanaugh. And by the way President Trump as well with his representation of Stormy Daniels. A lot of these women who just blindly embraced this guy without looking into his background. I mean, he's going through a very messy divorce, his ex-wife had a sworn statement in those proceedings where she claimed that he emotionally abused her. So, there may or may not be a pattern of behavior here with Mr. Michael Avenatti. But the fact that the left just blindly-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, let me ask you this, though. CROWLEY: -- raced to embrace him only because he opposed President Trump and was trying to lead the charge to take on cases to try to destroy him is despicable. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, that's why he got 108 appearances. On MSNBC and CNN, 101, and 200 total, but whatever the number is. But o those two channels in particular over 100. What about, Ari, when people when these issues come up, they don't know any of the facts, they don't know an allegation has been made, no corroboration. And then when you get deeper into it, some -- again, in the case of Professor Ford. You know, it finds out she identified an eyewitness to the incident who said it didn't happen in that case. FLEISCHER: Right. HANNITY: Swetnick's allegation was so over-the-top from the get-go, and then she changed her story. But when people say, I believe her, without knowing anything about the case, what does mean -- because that happens a lot now. I believe. Women have a right to be believed. I think when serious allegations are made, we need to take them seriously. FLEISCHER: And the women who made the allegations against Bill Clinton are still largely not believed by those on the left. Look, it's a terrible hypocrisy. If the person is a woman who is attacking or saying that Republican did something wrong or immoral, the entire left says women are made to be -- should be believed, right from the start with no investigation necessary. I believe. Yet, now, they are all pausing. It should be one constant standard, it should be the Republican standard. It should be the due process standard, it should be the innocent until proven guilty standard. For one and for all regardless of ideology. The left needs to stop this, I believe anybody, if they attacked Republicans. Let's just have due process. HANNITY: Yes. And it shouldn't be political. These issues are too serious, these charges are too serious and the issue is too serious. Nobody wants anybody that abuses women to get away with it, nobody, no person with a conscience or a soul. Monica, what about the, I believe before we know anything? CROWLEY: Yes. You know, I think we are starting to see a turning of this. You know, the Me Too movement started out with a very noble purpose. It's been weaponized. We saw that with the Kavanaugh hearings. And now I think with the Avenatti case, we might a tipping back to the idea that justice should be blind and equally applied. I hope so. HANNITY: All right. Ari, Ari, good to see you. And Monica, good to see you. Thank you both. CROWLEY: Thanks. HANNITY: When we come back, the only reason that Piers Morgan is actually going to be on the show is because he borrowed a shirt and didn't have one. But he takes on Hollywood's unhinged response to the Trump president and what he likes about Donald Trump and what he is a critic on, that's next, straight ahead. HANNITY: Right now Hollywood is continuing to ramp up their vial daily hatred campaign against President Trump. His supporters, for example, this week, insane Robert de Niro totally unhinged, another vulgar rant, and of course this behavior has been going on now for two years. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MADONNA, SINGER: Yes, I'm angry. Yes, I am outraged. Yes, I am outraged. Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When was the last time an actor assassinated a president? I want to clarify, I'm not an actor. I lie for a living. However, it's been a while. And maybe it's time. ROBERT DE NIRO, ACTOR: Today the world is suffering from the real Donald Trump. Come on, let's go, what are we talking about? Let's clap for that. (APPLAUSE) DE NIRO: This (muted) idiot is the president. The guy is a (muted) fool, come on. Our government today with the prompting of our baby in chief has (muted) as I call him. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And yet, the president has shattered one economic record right after another, unemployment straight down the line. Joining us now, he is the editor at large with the Daily Mail.com, Piers Morgan is with us. Piers, by the way is in the U.S. hosting Daily Nail TV early today and tomorrow. And your show is a massive hit. Your only mistake in TV in the U.S. was lecturing Americans about guns which I don't want to you talk about. PIERS MORGAN, EDITOR AT LARGE, DAILYMAIL.COM: We could go -- we could go a long time on guns, Mr. Hannity, you and me, but let's not do it tonight. HANNITY: OK. Not tonight. Did you really -- you almost had to borrow my shirt to come on TV because -- is that my gift to you? MORGAN: My (Inaudible) actually pinged off which I'm blaming on a rather large ribeye steak I had earlier this evening. HANNITY: Well. MORGAN: And then they say, what do wear one of Sean's? Unfortunately, your shirt was obviously a lot much too big for me. HANNITY: Probably, it's big because I do mix martial arts 90 minutes a day. MORGAN: Of course. Of course. Of course. HANNITY: Well, it's good to see you. Welcome back. Congrats on you-- MORGAN: Thank you. HANNITY: -- I know you have a huge show and huge success. I love your iconoclastic nature on Twitter although I got bored with it, I did it for a while. Here's -- if I had one piece of advice for President Trump, it would be this. He can communicate on Twitter and he reaches so many people, he doesn't even need the media to communicate, he didn't even need a press secretary in a sense although I love Sarah sanders. Five percent, just pull back on 5 percent of those tweets and he'll be goaded. MORGAN: Honestly, if you took away the tweets and the rhetoric from Donald Trump's detractors and you actually focused on what he actually does as president, he would be nowhere near scary to them as they portend that he is. Those clips that you played though, Sean, already interesting to me. I've had a bug bead about this Trump got elected. Well, for two years now, we had most of the major liberal celebrities in the world just basically screaming in a massive gigantic hissy fit that their choice Hillary Clinton did not win the election. And they cannot abide the fact that somebody like Trump, a celebrity actually like them somehow with no political experience came through and won the White House. And you know, it reminds me a bit of the Brexit debate in Britain, it's exactly the same thing. Where everyone who voted Brexit are calling to all the celebrities must be stupid and racist and sexist and so on. Same debate in America. And the clip you just played, I mean, frankly, people should be arrested for saying some of the stuff they have been saying. HANNITY: Exactly. MORGAN: Making direct bomb threats to the White House. And I've written column after column and I've made this point to them. Look, you can scream as much as you have liked. You can be as abusive about Donald Trump as you want to be. You can call him all the names that you're calling him, but all it will do is empower Donald Trump, it will rally his base and as we saw with Hillary Clinton when she played the celebrity card so hard in 2016, it doesn't work. Taylor Swift and Oprah Winfrey recently in the midterms, both back candidates who lost, two of the biggest stars in America with the biggest followings. It's not enough to just be a Trump basher. You have to be offering something more, and I'm just - look, I'm like you, Sean. I find it vomit making that these stars time and again just think it's cool and productive to scream abuse at the president of the United States. There is no respect for the office, no respect for the White House, and frankly, not much respect for their own fans, many of whom will have voted for Trump. HANNITY: And the economic success, record ow unemployment in 14 states. African-Americans, Hispanic- Americans, Asian-Americans, women in the workplace, youth unemployment, shattering records which is great for the people that matter, that make I think, America great. Let me ask you picked up something that very few people did. Obama lost 69 between the House and Senate seats in his first midterm, Clinton 60, and Donald Trump did something that only happened three times in a hundred times, picked up three Senate seats. MORGAN: Yes. And I, again, I wrote a column for Daily Mail saying to the Democrats, look, whether you like Trump or not, I'm aware they all can't stand the side of him, you got to try to beat him in 2020. If I was taking this midterm objectively and I would say look, he improved his majority in the Senate, right, he won a lot of other races that other people didn't think he'd win. Obviously, he had a loss, he lost the House. But I if I was a Democrat, I would look at those results in totality and go, we got a problem in 2020. How are we going to beat this guy? Who are we going to put up against him? He's a brilliant campaigner, he's doing rally after rally, his base looks rock-solid and he's all the usual suspects screaming at him and telling him he's an idiot, and yet he is an incumbent White House president. And I think the odds are something like 75 percent of all incumbent presidents who run again get reelected, and is they run on a surging economy those odds are going to the mid-90s. So, Donald Trump has a very, very good chance I would say of winning the next election. If you are a Democrat, stop screaming and try to find the candidate and a message which could actually beat him because right now I don't see either. HANNITY: They're never going to do. You are giving very smart, sound advice and they will never follow it. In the next two years, we will chronicle the insanity that continues. All right, the next time you are in the states, I want you to invite you one, to my house to see my gun collection and how I secure them safety. I believe in responsible gun ownership, and, I'm going to take you shooting. MORGAN: Well, I'll do that but I'll also try and convince you that when we took away all the guns in civilian hands in my country in Britain, it was successful and we haven't had a school shooting since the 90s. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Yes. Bad idea. MORGAN: I'll convince you. HANNITY: All right. Good to see you. And congrats. I know your success. Piers Morgan hosting Daily Mail TV tomorrow morning. When we come back, a convicted murder - get this - may be tied to over 90 unsolved homicides, 90. That straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Before we go, a disturbing story to tell you about tonight. Seventy-eight-year-old Samuel Little, convicted murderer, serving a life sentence for multiple homicides has provided details to law enforcement about over 90 unsolved killings across the country dating back to the 1970s. It means that well, that may be one of the deadliest serial killers in American history. Wow. Tragedy for so many innocent people and their families. We pray for them tonight. We will always be fair and balanced. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. She is in the swamp, the sewer, Laura Ingraham. Load-Date: November 16, 2018 End of Document The Angel, Michael Avenatti And The Complicit Left; Hand Recount Underway In Florida Senate Race; Tensions High In GA Gubernatorial Race; Liberals Blinded By Hatred Of All Things Trump; Avenatti, Liberal Savior Or Laughing Stock; Michael Avenatti Accused of Domestic Violence; President Trump to Bestow Presidential Medal of Freedom Posthumously to Elvis Presley; Controversy over E-Cigarettes Examined Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 15, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7904 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Phil Keating, Harmeet Dhillon, Trace Gallagher Guests: Pete Dunbar, Erick Erickson, Sean Duffy, Scott Bolden, Horace Cooper, Jonathan Harris, Janette Nesheiwat, Tom Scibelli Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS: The news continues. She is in the swamp, the sewer, Laura Ingraham. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS: Can you do me a favor and stop saying the word sewer and then going Laura Ingraham. HANNITY: How about I say the sewer and then the swamp? INGRAHAM: No. I need a buffer sentence between that and my name. HANNITY: I will figure it out. INGRAHAM: Hannity, I have a question for you. I have a question. My question to you is do you -- I seem to remember you cook your Turkey for thanksgiving. HANNITY: I do. INGRAHAM: Do you cook it in a pit? Don't you dig a pit or something? HANNITY: Listen. Master build has the butterball Turkey fryer. It is safe. People used to fill their backyards or blow up. It is safe. It cooks twice as fast. The best, juiciest, the most delicious Turkey you've ever had in your life. And I will even make one on the air before thanksgiving if you are in New York. INGRAHAM: OK. I think it's lovely that you invited Michael Avenatti to come. I think that is a gesture that only you could have thought of. That is very generous. HANNITY: Listen. He should have done this for Kavanaugh. He didn't, but I believe it across the board. These principles -- you are a lawyer. You know this. Too important. INGRAHAM: I agree. All right, Sean. I'll be waiting for my Turkey next week. I am Laura Ingraham and this is "The Ingraham Angle" from Washington. And tonight a really important and a very fun show for you. Stay with us. Drama continuing, I can't believe we are still saying this, and Florida. The Rick Scott campaign is now charging Broward County election official Brenda Snipes with intentionally missing today's deadline, because the result shows that he had more votes. The latest updates in moments. Plus, my angle is going to tackle the latest with the aforementioned Michael Avenatti, not just the latest felony assault charges he faces, but the complicity the left and the media share with his rise. And what could possibly be controversial about President Trump posthumously awarded Elvis Presley the Medal of Freedom. Well, the Washington Post found a way and wait till you hear how. And what happens when a doctor and a millennial who does vaping take on the latest FDA push for regulations on the e-cigarette market? I can't miss the debate later in the show. But first, breaking news out of Florida tonight. An unprecedented statewide hand recount is currently underway following a five-day machine recount of the more than 8 million votes cast in last week's election. The Secretary of State ordered him recounts earlier today in the Senate race between current U.S. Senator Bill Nelson and his challenger Republican Governor Rick Scott. And this isn't just in Broward and Palm Beach counties. The order gives canvassing boards in every single one of the sunshine state 67 counties three days to pour over thousands of ballots that were rejected by machines. For more on what's next, we go to Fox's Phil Keating live in beautiful Riviera Beach in Florida tonight. Phil? PHIL KEATING, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Laura, the same two Florida counties and new election issues once again. Palm Beach County where we are, well, they missed the states recount deadline. The only one of 67 counties to do so. And Broward County got there results in 2 minutes too late, meaning five long days of hard recount work down the electoral drain. That machine recount actually showed Republican Rick Scott statewide gaining in votes and his lead over the original results. Scott now leads Nelson by -- he lead by .15 percent. Hand counters will now go through all the problematic ballots which had under votes and over votes to see if that changes anything. Also in the closely watched governor's race, the recount results stayed almost on was exactly the same, with Republican former Congressman Ron DeSantis leading Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum by .41 percent. Still close, but avoiding a hand recount. While Broward County celebrated after midnight when it completed recounting the ballots, well today's election staffers uploaded its results to the state at 3:02 p.m. They were due at 3:00 sharp. So the original numbers will be the ones made official. Not everybody was happy down there in Broward and the word tonight of a staffer quote I worked my ass off for nothing. Palm Beach County failed to make the recount deadline period. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I will explain it to say that I believe strongly that it was not a human effort. It was mechanical. We are required to present a report to the Secretary of State and that is exactly what I'm going to report. (END VIDEO CLIP) KEATING: And because of that, Senator Nelson has now filed a new lawsuit late this afternoon against Palm Beach County and the state. He wants all of Palm Beach County's ballots, the entirety of it, recounted by hand. This new hand count of these under and over votes due to the Secretary of State by Sunday. Laura. INGRAHAM: All right, Phil, thanks so much. And today's order for recount, follows more evidence of potential dirty tricks by Democrats in Florida. First the Naples news reporting earlier that Florida Democrats plan to use altered forms to fix mail ballots across the state after the imposed deadline. Now these altered forms were reported to federal prosecutors so that they could review the potential election fraud. Second, after U.S. Chief Judge Mark Walker ruled Thursday that voters should have until Saturday to correct signatures on ballots, a win for Senator Nelson, Fox News learned that Karen D Walker, the wife of the judge had previously donated to Senator Bill Nelson's campaign. Shouldn't that have led to recusal? Joining me now is Pete Dunbar, an election lawyer in Florida. Who is overseeing many of these recount efforts? And Harmeet Dhillon, an attorney and RNC committee woman. I want to get to the issue of Judge Walker in a moment, but Pete, what can you tell us about the seeming dirty tricks from the Florida Democrats with regard to these altered forms? PETE DUNBAR, COUNSEL TO REPUBLICAN PARTY OF FLORIDA: Well, Laura, it's nice to be with you tonight. We've been hearing rumors about this for the last couple days. I think it is now taken the appropriate course of action so that it will be looked into. I've been in the Florida political arena now for about five decades. This is the first time we've seen something quite like this are the allegations quite like this from either of the two state parties. It is a bit troubling, but it will be processed appropriately. I will also say that after the governor-elect was confirmed today after the machine recount, the waters here in Florida are combing a little bit. INGRAHAM: Well, it's about time. But there is no reason they should continue to happen in Florida, frankly anywhere, with modern technology. This shouldn't be that difficult, if they follow rules in the beginning through the process. Harmeet, I want to play this from David (inaudible) who is air in Burnet about this two minute supposed missing the deadline late deal. Let us watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And Broward County, what's amazing is that they finished the count 2 minutes late. They submitted the results 2 minutes late so they will not be counted. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean in that case, I mean, a law is a law or do you let that in? I understand. (END VIDEO) INGRAHAM: You're not going to let it in, Harmeet, if it's going to help the Republicans. HARMEET DHILLON, ATTORNEY: Yes, in this case it is almost an 800 vote advantage for the governor. That is why I think there's suspicious about it being a potential missing of the deadline. INGRAHAM: Now, Harmeet, when you keep hearing the refrain Republicans are saying voter fraud, there is no -- no voter fraud, no voter fraud at all. This is just a process, Harmeet. You're raising a red flag for no reason. How should we speak about this given these irregularities that have been reported and people like Brenda Snipes has become the poster girl for this type of corruption? DHILLON: It is fraud. I mean, first of all, Rick, I think politely referred to the fact that the Democratic Party in conjunction with officials of the Democratic Party actually sent out altered forms to several thousand voters in Broward County. Actually statewide. They did so called chasing effort, but they only sent them to Democratic registered voters. So they are only interesting and correcting the signatures for Democrats, not for Republicans. And unfortunately this judge who seems to have a conflict went ahead and extended the deadline. So that is organized. It wasn't one-off. Isn't a mistake. That is thousands of ballots, thousands of forms going out with false information deceiving voters about their right to correct their ballots. INGRAHAM: Now, Pete, what I'm concerned about in the hand recount, this effort to discern the intent of the voter. If the ballot is rejected by the machine, because it was either I guess it could be an under vote. No, there was something on the ballot that was wrong? You spill your coffee on it? I don't know what it is. If it is not read easily by the machine, these attempt to say well, if you voted for DeSantis, you would have voted for Nelson or if you voted for the Democrat agriculture commission, how odd that you didn't vote for Nelson. This is the kind of thing that people look at and say maybe people don't want to vote for these people. Maybe that is why they didn't vote. It is crazy. DUNBAR: Laura, I think you're right about that and I think here is what happens. They will look to examine, but it's possible for the machine to reject ballots that might have a smudge on them. If you mailed in your ballot and you happen to fold over one of those items and it may not be the races that are in the close contests, the machine will kick it out and it needs to be examined. The canvassing board process in Florida is pretty balanced and I think fair. There is a circuit Judge or a Judge, the supervisor of elections, county commissioner. Both sides are allowed to be there and be present while the decision is being made and if they want to object to it, they can. But here's the other interesting point for what it's worth. If you look at the volume of the universe of ballots that are now narrowed and what remains an issue, it's not going to change the results. Much like we saw on the governor's race, I would tell you that the results that were given on election night, I think in the governor's race after 8.2 million votes, the recount showed there was a one-vote differential and by the way that went to the governor-elect. I think we're going to find the same process to be true. While there is the issue for the legal ballots when it's all said and done. INGRAHAM: This is when I'm concerned about. Harmeet, last comment. The Republicans always seem to be outflanked by lawyers on the ground. The Democrats are always ready for this. We're going to do this. Rick Scott has his own money and he has a lot of money in his campaign coffers. He was smart to take this right to the court. Some of these other races across the country, the Republicans didn't take the same approach. DHILLON: no, I would agree, Laura. We've been caught flat-footed in many races where lawyers on the ground and that kind of aggressive effort could have changed things. You know unfortunately that didn't happen so I hope we learned a lesson for 2020. Were really going to need to do that and have lawyers in every race. Every congressional candidate needs a lawyer on speed dial. INGRAHAM: The rules have to be applied across the board. If you don't fill in your ballot right, guess what, it's not about that should count. Only legal votes count. If you can't follow the rules and figure out how to fill in a bubble, sorry, no one should have to hold the ballot to the light and figure out how you voted. Thank you, Harmeet and Peter. By the way, another big race that still has not been called. The Georgia governor's race. Republican Brian Kemp has 55,000 vote lead on Democrat Stacey Abrams, but she refuses to concede, claiming racism. And she is claiming voter fraud. Trace Gallagher is live in our West Coast Newsroom with that story tonight that he is been following. Trace? TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Laura. The campaign of both Republican Brian Kemp and Democrats Stacey Abrams, are claiming victory after a Federal Judge issued what appears to be a split decision to the benefit of Abrams campaign. The Judge rules absentee ballots need to be reviewed and the ones previously rejected because of incorrect birthdates must be counted. Now, to the benefit of the Kemp campaign, the judge say, absentee ballot with the wrong addresses and those who voted to the wrong county will not be counted. Now, to be clear, the Abrams campaign isn't hoping to pick up enough absentee votes to win the election. Instead they are trying to extend the election. They believe by getting a 17,759 votes that would bring Brian Kemp below 50 percent and force a runoff on December 4. The Kemp campaign calls it impossible saying quote, after all the theatrics, the math remains the same. Abrams lost on Brian Kemp won. Election is over." in in case the math doesn't add up, the Abrams camp is already on to plan B, which is to accuse Brian Kemp of wrongdoing. Saying as Georgia Secretary of State and cheat on elections, he essentially cheated. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Unequivocally that we believe Brian Kemp mismanage this election to sway it in his favor. (END VIDEO CLIP) GALLAGHER: Though the campaign offered no evidence which has not stopped Democrats outside of Georgia from also using the s word, here's Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SENATOR SHERROD BROWN, (D), OHIO: If Stacey Abrams doesn't win in Georgia, they stole it. It's clear. It's clear. (END VIDEO CLIP) GALLAGHER: It's clear, but again no evidence. And Hillary Clinton and New Jersey Senator Cory Booker also say without evidence the election was not fair. By the way, the deadline for all vote counts in Georgia is November 20. Expect more lawsuits to fly well before that. Laura. INGRAHAM: All right. Trace, maybe we should just extend it all the way through the New Year. Let's go all the way to 2020 and then 2022. Let's never end this midterm's election cycle. Trace, thank you so much for that report. Our next guest just wrote a terrific piece titled "The real reason Stacey Abrams won't concede." Joining us know someone who knows more than most about Georgia politics, he writes a lot about it. Founder of the research and, Erick Erickson. Erick, it's great to have you here tonight. Now, you heard the report from Trace. He had been following this race very closely. Why was this so ugly from the start? And then, how did they get and why is it at the place now where she is trying to force the recount. There is no way she is going to get there, but what's going on really here? ERICK ERICKSON, FOUNDER OF THE RESURGENT: Well, you have to go back to 2014. Stacey Abrams made her claimed that she could get elected by doing voter registration drives though out the state and she fails. She has to explain to her donors and keep Democrats agitated, there is another race coming up in two years. She wants to run against Senator David Perdue there. So, by keeping Democrats in flame, she thinks she can move into a runoff in December. The Secretary of State's race isn't a runoff, and keep Democrats going, but there's a key point here. All this Democrats are saying Brian Kemp stole the election. The Secretary of State in Georgia plays no role in the election other than making sure the ballots are uniform so we don't have Florida style problems. The Secretary of State role doesn't become effective until after the election is over. Kemp resigned before playing that role. Every problem the Democrats have highlighted are actually local elections officials most of them and Democratic counties. INGRAHAM: And Erick, from the beginning they have been trying to push the narrative. With Oprah, big roll out with Oprah. That if you don't vote, then you are betraying your ancestors' past, that is number one. Number two, these idea that Brian Kemp by cleaning up the voter rolls which I believe by law he is obligated to do that he is actively trying to suppress minority voting. Respond to that. ERICKSON: An you know, to some degree, there's a question of whether or not minority voters decided not to go vote, because the Abrams campaign was telling them it's not going to count anyway and Kemp is going to steal it. So how many votes did she lose? The Kemp campaign, the Secretary of State is required by law in odd-numbered years to clean voter rolls of voters who haven't voted in seven years where contacted and did not reply. The Democrats are saying that there was a massive amount of votes this year taken off the rules. That is true, but the Secretary of State George is prohibited from removing people from the rolls in election years. Those were local officials who were removed people who are either committed felonies, died or declare incompetent by courts of law. These are the only people who had been removed from the rolls this year. INGRAHAM: Now, so why is Sherrod Brown and Kamala Harris getting involved? Kamala Harris is running for President in 2020. So this is part of that effort clearly, but why is Sherrod brown, I'm not making that connection. ERICKSON: Because there's going to be a Secretary of State runoff in the Democrats have a chance of winning so they're trying to keep Democrats really inflamed and impassioned by this. Remember this all goes back to a Democrat strategy after 2000 with Katherine Harris in Florida where they decided that key to winning states was to win secretaries of state races, because the Secretary of State presided over voter rolls. They've been making claims about Brian Kemp when really that is when the Democrats wanted to do, they want to win the Secretary of State office in Georgia, thinking that will help the Democrats in 2020. INGRAHAM: Her campaign manager actually mentioned the Secretary of State role today. Let us watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I would like to remind everybody that his last official act as Secretary of State was using that body as a taxpayer-funded arm of his campaign and issuing a press release. That said I am the victor. The next day he is standing saying he is governor-elect. We reject that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Erick, I mean, I'm happy to have that loop play morning, noon, and night. That would be really good for the Republican Party in Georgia. But your response to her. ERICKSON: Well, the math doesn't add up for her. There are no more votes outstanding. All the counties have reviewed even the absentee ballots now and there are no more votes. She fell 17,795 votes short for getting into run=off or a recount. The votes are there, she consumed all she wants to try to keep Democrats focus on the runoff for Secretary of State, but she will never be governor of Georgia. INGRAHAM: This again is about more identity politics, trying to register more people to vote and leading all the way to 2020. Erick, terrific, thank you so much for joining us tonight. You won't want to miss this. Tonight's angle tackles the media and the Democrats' Michael Avenatti problem. The angle after this. INGRAHAM: Avenatti's assault on Democrats credibility. That is the focus of tonight's angle. Since Trump entered his run for the presidency in 2016, Democrats and their media sycophants have been on an absolute mission to not just defeat him, but to destroy him. And all those around him as well. They are also blinded by their hatred of all things Trump so much so that they have hitched their political wagons to a cast of radical unsavory characters that looks like a reunion of the suicide squad. Enter Michael Avenatti. A two bit tax cheat and celebrity attorney reborn as crusading lawyer to porn star Trump accuser Stormy Daniels. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL AVENATTI, STORMY DANIEL'S ATTORNEY: The President trusted Mr. Cohen as his fixer for years. He trusted him with his innermost secrets and I think that the chickens are about to come home to roost. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: They are coming home to roost, all right. As a battering ram against Donald Trump and later his Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, Avenatti was elevated by the left. The media couldn't get enough of Avenatti. He went from huckster hard-charging plane's lawyer to a nationwide brand. His face was suddenly plastered all over TV. This profile from "Vanity Fair" is my personal favorite. There he is, the race car driving lawyer with a shaved head and well defined cheekbones who launched a thousand heart-eye emojis. I don't think I can continue. Now the piece goes on to address some pretty salacious rumors about his tan. I don't fake bake. He said. He does moisturize twice a day, but shuns complicated skincare products such as eye creams and 40 minute masks. At one point last spring he was getting 100 to 125 interview requests a day. He was soon a featured guest at glittery events as well. Like MTV's video music awards. Maybe they confused him with the rapper Pitbull. I see the similarity. Their political and entertainment media, they just worked overtime to showcase all things Avenatti. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN TONIGHT NEWS GUEST HOST: Thank you very much. You saw this coming. You are putting a lot of chips on what was going to happen with Michael Cohen and what it would mean for your case, but today your stack is a little higher. Michael Avenatti, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Avenatti has been getting fed information that is more true than not. What he is doing on TV, that is his business and the people who put him on. We are going to bring in a key player from all of this, Michael Avenatti, because he sees it differently. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Curiously neither Cuomo nor Don Lemon covered Avenatti's arrest last night by the LAPD on domestic abuse charges. Huh, wonder why. Last night Anderson Cooper did cover Michael Avenatti's post-prison press conference. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AVENATTI: I appreciated. Thank you. ANDERSON COOPER, BREAKING NEWS SHOW HOST: That is Michael Avenatti, who is just I guess been released from custody. We are going to continue to follow the story tonight. There is even more breaking news in the Russian investigation potentially development as we wait for new moves from Special Counsel Mueller. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Wait, wait, wait, I missed it. It was a drive-by mention. Move on to the next topic now. Please, go, go, go. From Weinstein to Sharpton to Louis Farrakhan and now to Avenatti, the Democrats of the pattern, don't they? Of aligning themselves with cd figures even if it means betraying the Democrats espoused values that would have actually advanced their cause. The Democrats are more than happy to sell out basic principles of decency and fairness in their efforts to take down Trump and frankly anyone connected to him. At least Avenatti was forthright in his intentions. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AVENATTI: I believe that our Party, the Democratic Party, must be a Party that fights fire with fire. So I say when they go low, we hit harder. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Isn't that what the woman who is accusing him is saying? The Democrats should've seen the Avenatti flameout coming a mile away. A guy who tried to cheat his law partner, in a million in fees, a guy who is evicted from his own offices, who is willing to cast his lot with a sad figure like Daniels. A guy who stooped even lower to peddle Julie Swetnick's false and frankly defamatory claims against Kavanaugh. Avenatti was an arrest waiting to happen. In fact, last month Senate judiciary committee chair Chuck Grassley made a criminal referral to both Avenatti and Julie Swetnick for making false statements to Congress. And this was some guy that the left seriously considered as a Presidential contender for 2020. For months, Clinton alum Adam (inaudible) has been shuttling the lawyer Avenatti from Democratic Party event to Democratic Party event all over the country in order to familiarize Avenatti with the whole process of running for the presidency. And the Vermont Democratic Party actually canceled Avenatti's appearances this weekend following his arrest. Well, in a twist of fate, the man who urged us to believe the women making wild decades-old allegations against Kavanaugh now has a change of perspective. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AVENATTI: I have never struck a woman. I never will strike a woman. I have been an advocate for women's rights my entire career and I'm going to continue to be an advocate. I'm not going to be intimidated from stopping what I'm doing. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I have a question. Can you advocate for women's rights behind bars? I guess they do have desks set up in prison. How well Democrats and liberal women who embrace this would be Trump slayer react now to this? He is innocent until proven guilty. I said that last night, but will CNN give even a fraction of the airtime to his accuser as they did to his clients? Don't hold your breath. That is the angle. When we return, reaction to my angle and a further examination of why the media so desperately wanted Avenatti to be their golden boy. And later, what happens when a millennial vaping fanatic faces off with a doctor warning against the practice? This can't missed debate later in the show. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I owe Michael Avenatti an apology. For the last couple of weeks I've been saying enough already, Michael. I've seen you everywhere. What do you have left say? I was wrong, brother. You have a lot to say. The Democrats could learn something from you. You are messing with Trump a lot more than they are. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Why didn't we use that for "The Angle"? That's the best one ever. Back now to tonight's angle, Avenatti's assault on Democrats credibility. I laid out my case. Now let's see what my panel thinks. Here with us is Wisconsin Republican Congressman Sean Duffy and attorney Scott Bolden. Scott, let's start with you. Avenatti was all about the women. You've got to believe the women. What does she have to gain? What do these women have to gain after Christine Blasey Ford got a million bucks from GoFundMe? What does she have to gain? I think she had a lot to gain. But what do we have to gain, these women, what would she have to gain? SCOTT BOLDEN, CHAIR, NATIONAL BAR ASSOCIATION PAC: He is their lawyer, and he's advocating on their behalf. And he's articulate, he's telegenic, and he's fighting. INGRAHAM: He has a heck of a right hook. BOLDEN: No, that's not true. INGRAHAM: I'm joking. It's a joke. Come on. BOLDEN: No, because he is innocent until proven guilty, and with him and his clients, the women, he's got witnesses, he's got a complaining witness, and he's got corroboration. He's advocating for them. INGRAHAM: He has a criminal referral, too, doesn't he? BOLDEN: That's politically driven. The Republican chair of the Judiciary Committee referred it, and that's not going anywhere because his client had an affidavit she signed. INGRAHAM: She lied. So you think people should be able to accuse men with impunity? BOLDEN: She was mistaken, but you're going to take a long way to say she lied. You're going to have to prove that, and that's hard in this country. INGRAHAM: But are we still waiting for Michael Avenatti's two witnesses he claimed saw Brett Kavanaugh put grain alcohol in a punch bowl. Why have witnesses? BOLDEN: The Senate Judiciary Committee would get to the truth and seek corroboration, we probably would've talk to those two witnesses. INGRAHAM: Scott, even you can't defend this Avenatti character at this point. Stop digging on him. Stop digging on him. BOLDEN: Character? He's a lawyer. REP. SEAN DUFFY, (R) WISCONSIN: Isn't it interesting, though, that Scott will come out and say we need the Constitution and he's innocent until proven guilty, though for Republicans, we're guilty until proven innocent. BOLDEN: No, no. I don't believe that either. But I do believe Avenatti has clients who have made accusations against the president, they have corroboration, and they are listening. INGRAHAM: We can't relitigate Kavanaugh. BOLDEN: I am talking about Stormy Daniels, and Swetnick and others. When I say Swetnick, what I mean is they never did get corroboration because the committee never went for corroboration. INGRAHAM: My God, if you are going to defend Julie Swetnick, the women is -- BOLDEN: I'm not defending here. I'm just reporting. INGRAHAM: She is a nightmare. It is completely outrageous and false and Kavanaugh, two words, life tenure. Let's talk about this, though. Where does this go for the Democrats? They always complain Republicans are willing to sell their souls for Trump and they're believing these things they didn't used to believe and for Trump. I always believed in his views on trade and immigration, so it doesn't apply to me, but they say that. But what about this. This guy is a piece of work, whether this is true or not. I would take all this allegations from yesterday off the table, just his other behavior and all the other stuff he's been through and done. DUFFY: I think the guy is a scumbag. The three of us are lawyers. He gives lawyers a bad name. That's why I don't say I'm a lawyer. I'm a prosecutor, because we have such a bad reputation. But here you have a guy, he's an attractive man, he's well-spoken, and you have a guy like that who is willing to be a pit bull against Donald Trump and you will have every liberal network put him on TV to bash the president, take down the Supreme Court nominee. And when this story comes out, it is crickets. I thought it was fascinating what you played in "The Angle" is you have CNN talking briefly about this story, and back to Russia. Back to Russia. INGRAHAM: Four seconds. Four seconds. We all have to admit that was so obvious. Anderson was like let's get off this story now. We have elevated him for months, now we can't report on this. These are Iowa voters, guys, who are reacting to a possible Michael Avenatti run for the presidency. The actually seemed pretty excited. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Would you potentially vote for Stormy Daniels' lawyer Michael Avenatti? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I probably would, yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm going with Avenatti. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Avenatti. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I would lean that way. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Towards Avenatti. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was in August. I don't think they will be doing those interviews anytime soon. BOLDEN: Maybe, maybe not. But politics and elections are about who you like, and voters vote for who they like regardless of their policies. He's an attractive candidate. He has got no political background or record, don't get me wrong, and I'm not sure he could make it through the Democratic primaries with so many other Democrats running. But it's an interesting story. But I don't think it has a lot of depth or substance to it. INGRAHAM: Would you ever fail to pay your law partner like millions of dollars that your law partners is owed on the case? The judge ruled a $10 million verdict against Avenatti for cheating his law partner. That's like cheating at golf times 100. BOLDEN: Would you ever vote for someone who's been accused of groping 20 women? Yes. GOP voted for Donald Trump. He's accused of lying, he's accused of lying on his taxes. You still voted -- not you, but the GOP voted for him. So why not Avenatti? I'm not a big fan of Avenatti, but Donald Trump showed that anybody can get elected. DUFFY: Donald Trump had an agenda. Michael Avenatti is only anti-Trump. And that was the message of the Democrat Party -- BOLDEN: Over two years out. You never know. DUFFY: Listen, this is all they run on. I'm anti-Trump. BOLDEN: This is a hard argument I'm making. (LAUGHTER) (CROSSTALK) DUFFY: It's an anti-Trump movement, and that's why people -- he hates Trump and he gets great air time. He can run for president. INGRAHAM: It worked for some of these House seats. The Democrats took it for some of the House seats, and maybe they think they can win the presidency with it. I don't think you've heard the last of Avenatti. And I said innocent until proven guilty last night and I said you can't believe someone just because they made an accusation, even though he didn't give that same courtesy to other folks. BOLDEN: He was probably set up, anyway. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Marion Barry line. One final thing, Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has said that she can't afford an apartment in D.C. I don't know what the congressional salary is. You probably know. Is it $150,000? DUFFY: It's $174,000. INGRAHAM: But she can't afford an apartment. DUFFY: What's unique though is when I ran for Congress I went seven months without a salary, I had six kids, and I said, hey, I struggled to pay my bills, and the left went wild. Struggling Sean Duffy. And now Alexandria Ocasio- Cortez says she can't afford an apartment. Oh, she's just a poor middle-class working girl from the Bronx. The coverage is outrageous. INGRAHAM: The coverage is just fawning. DUFFY: Poor Duffy -- INGRAHAM: But how many people had much money? You go to Craigslist. You have to live with a bunch of people like everybody else. DUFFY: But also when you work for Congress, it's expensive, and if you don't work and you have six kids and you take seven months off and your wife doesn't working as well. I had six kids and she had six pairs of shoes. You had to get the seventh -- INGRAHAM: But let's be honest, though, let's be honest, because Sean earned a lot of money with the log sawing thing that you did. The lumberjack sports. You won a lot of big prize money, OK. BOLDEN: D.C. is an expensive town. We have stories of congressmen and I think maybe one senator sleeping in her office because they couldn't afford two places. But what I don't understand about the media is what's the angle in making a big deal out of your challenge or her challenge? What does it mean? INGRAHAM: Because the median income in the United States is $51,000 and that's with three kids. BOLDEN: But she hasn't started yet. She hasn't started her job yet. DUFFY: This is before you start the job. Mine was before I started the job as well, and I can't afford a nice little flower like that either. BOLDEN: Oh, my goodness. An attack on the -- INGRAHAM: All it is, it's a version of I had to walk to school five miles. How many bathrooms did you have growing up? DUFFY: Two. INGRAHAM: How many did you have? BOLDEN: Two. DUFFY: But 11 kids. INGRAHAM: One, I had one. One bathroom. BOLDEN: And look at how you've done now. Look at how well you're doing now. INGRAHAM: Six people in the house and one bathroom and we all survived, somehow. All right, guys, thank you so much. And what could possibly be controversial about President Trump posthumously awarding Elvis Presley the medal of freedom? Wait till you see the message "The Washington Post" says this sends. Stay there. This one is ridiculous. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (MUSIC) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, my gosh, greatest music video ever. The first one, really, when you think about it. Elvis Presley, an American icon, adored by millions, has been selected by President Trump to receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom tomorrow. And while most would view him as a well deserving recipient, "The Washington Post" apparently could not help but take a shot at the president, writing, quote, "a little nod to the good old days back when black visionaries could invent rock-and-roll but only a white man could become the king." Ridiculous? How unhinged have they actually become going after Elvis. Joining me now set to discuss it, co-chair of Project 21 Horace Cooper and liberal analyst Jonathan Harris. Jonathan, I mean, Elvis is just cool, OK? I didn't like the 1972 Elvis as much, but that Elvis was just cool. And he embraced black music. He wasn't trying to hide black music. But "The Washington Post," really, this is what you're going at here? JONATHAN HARRIS, LIBERAL ANALYST: I'm personally not a huge fan of Elvis. It might be a generational thing, but I'm not a huge fan of Elvis myself. And I think it's just the optics look weird. It's like of all the people you could have picked, you're going to pick someone who many people at least feel to some extent or another appropriated black music because it wouldn't be embraced by black artists, that it was embraced by a southern white America because a white artist was doing essentially black music. Why would you pick someone like that in 2018 with all of the racial division that he's caused and he inherited as much as he caused, and pick someone like that? Why? INGRAHAM: Was Elvis a racist? HARRIS: No, I don't think Elvis was a racist, but I think the optics of what he represented was -- INGRAHAM: So why does it send a message? HARRIS: Because the optics of what Elvis represented. INGRAHAM: What? What? HARRIS: He was like -- the south said we'll take black music as long as it's packaged in a white guy. INGRAHAM: I think that was a fact of a changing American society. And I think you could probably make the argument that without Elvis, you wouldn't have had other musicians, down the road, go to Al Green or even some of the gospel singers who went back even pre-Elvis became more popular post-Elvis because of the rise of that type of music. I think it brought a lot of people into this spotlight who might not have gotten into the spotlight without that kind of meteoric rise that he had. But Horace, I do think this is actually now comedic that we are talking about Elvis and the fact that this sends a racist message. Is it another dog whistle, Horace? HORACE COOPER, CO-CHAIR, PROJECT 21: The left has just jumped the shark. INGRAHAM: That saying has jumped the shark, but that's OK. COOPER: This individual was so accomplished, he sold albums that blacks, whites, browns, America enjoyed, America celebrated. He was America's hero. And absolutely he ought to be. And it's a real shame that people would look at his achievements and say we want to hold that back because we think this is somehow a secret dog whistle for a racist agenda. INGRAHAM: If the president had picked Michael Jackson who was called the king of pop. HARRIS: I was thinking Donald Trump and Michael Jackson were very close. He could have picked something like that, philanthropist, no racial controversy. COOPER: Why didn't Barack Obama pick him? INGRAHAM: Why didn't Obama pick Michael Jackson? HARRIS: There's a question about that. But I'm like why are you picking Elvis? He has been dead for at least a couple minutes now. Why are you picking Elvis? COOPER: There are lots -- INGRAHAM: There were a lot of people who are legends. He was the most influential. I think you can't, anyone can really argue, the most influential person at the time in American music. And it wasn't music that was threatening to the new generation, obviously, people thought it was a threat. They didn't like it. They didn't like his moves. So I think you can argue as a liberal that Elvis was really what ushered in obviously the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, all the way down to the Who. Little Richard. They loved Elvis. Little Richard loved Elvis. I think you could talk to him today. COOPER: Millions of Americans go to Graceland. This is just a ridiculous -- INGRAHAM: Have you ever been to Graceland? COOPER: I have been to Graceland. INGRAHAM: I have never been. I'd like to go. COOPER: It is a great experience. INGRAHAM: Let's all go together. We could film it. It could be fun. Come on. HARRIS: That would be my first time. COOPER: The point is to bring up him as a divider when he actually united Americans with music. INGRAHAM: I'm going to turn you into an Elvis fan. I'm going to turn you into an Elvis fan. HARRIS: If you can accomplish that. INGRAHAM: And you're going to turn me into -- who's your favorite? HARRIS: Michael Jackson, actually. INGRAHAM: I love Michael Jackson. I'm going to turn you on to Elvis. HARRIS: If you can do that. INGRAHAM: You're going to like Elvis in the end. When I play you the old gospel Elvis. You will love it. Nancy Pelosi, she has been thrilled with one figure that also maybe not be as uniting as Elvis was, and this is Al Sharpton. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI, (D) HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: Thank you for helping take back America. People all over the place are calling me, writing, airports here and there, thank you for saving America. I give those thanks to you. Thank you for saving America. Reverend Sharpton, thank you for saving America. (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I think she said that four times in one click. She was at the National Action Network Legislative Policy Conference. It's a civil rights organization founded by Sharpton. Did Al Sharpton save America, Jonathan? HARRIS: I may have missed that memo. Not that I'm aware of. INGRAHAM: We need to check on Nancy at this point. I'm not quite sure -- COOPER: He saved America from racial harmony. HARRIS: No. What I will say -- no, there's a lot of things he's done that are problematic. COOPER: Problematic? HARRIS: You are a Trump supporter. We are not going to get into that. But he's done a lot of things that are problematic. But I think most people, what Nancy Pelosi is referring to, he's done a lot to eradicate racism and to take on people who have been racist. COOPER: We have to stop racism by causing racism, that's his -- INGRAHAM: We are going to be going to vaping right now. I wish you could stay for this segment. We actually have a millennial vaping fanatic facing off with a doctor warning against it. Find out what's going on, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The disturbing and accelerating trajectory of use we are seeing in youth and the resulting path to addiction must end. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: E-Cig usage has risen nearly 80 percent among high schoolers, and as a result the FDA wants regulation specifically with regard to flavored varietals that have help propel an explosion in use among the young. Here now, two folks on very separate sides of this issue. Janette Nesheiwat is a family and emergency room doctor, and Tom Scibelli, a blogger at Barstool Sports who affectionately goes by the name Tommy Smokes because of videos like this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The first think I'm going to try, sick Juul trick. (MUSIC) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can't overdose on Juul, can you? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Wow, that's pretty cool. All right, Tommy, sell me why these flavored e-cigs shouldn't be regulated, even when teens are using them in these increasing numbers. TOM SCIBELLI, ON-AIR PERSONALITY, BARSTOOL SPORTS: I'm 22 years old, so I'm using them legally. And honestly, they are just cool. They're cool. You rip them. There is nothing cooler than blowing a fat cloud like that. They call me the colossus of cloud. It helps my swag. It helps my drip. I just love walking around. It's really good for getting chicks, too. So, honestly, I started about a year ago and I haven't looked back since. INGRAHAM: I have a question. You use a cell phone quite a bit? SCIBELLI: Yes, quite a bit. INGRAHAM: So why don't you rig it up to your phone so you won't have the actual calories burned by grabbing your phone so you can vape and check email and text of the same time. You have it right off the side. That will be your invention. I'm giving it to you. SCIBELLI: I'd vape like this, and then blow. INGRAHAM: Yes, right. You don't have to keep switching devices. Humor aside, doctor, what should we know about the use of these e- cigarettes, vaping? Wildly popular. Parents don't really know their kids are doing it. What's the big deal? It's not like a cigarette, right? DR. JANETTE NESHEIWAT, BOARD CERTIFIED MEDICAL DOCTOR: It's just as harmful as cigarettes. Smoking causes more deaths than alcohol, drugs, guns, car accidents combined. The nicotine in cigarettes and in vaping products such as the Juul is highly addictive. And when it comes to children it can cause brain developmental abnormalities in kids. It can cause concentration problems, memory problems, problems with decision- making, anxiety, depression. So it really can have a significant toll on children, and it's really important that we educate parents and educate children and students just to stay away from smoking. INGRAHAM: OK, but the argument from the big lobbying organizations pushing vaping is that you don't get the tar in your lungs that you get from a regular cigarette. NESHEIWAT: It doesn't matter. But iou are inhaling propylene glycol, formaldehyde, traces of metals and chemicals which can cause upper respiratory tract infections, asthma flareups, COPD, which can allow you to have troubled breathing beyond oxygen tanks and put some people in the emergency room. Poor Tommy over there is gasping for air. INGRAHAM: Tommy, you don't seem to be bothered at all by formaldehyde or any of the things. You love it. And look at how Tommy, look at how he looks. He looks fantastic after all this. SCIBELLI: Thank you. NESHEIWAT: Right, but 10, 20 years from now he's going to be have trouble breathing. He may develop chronic bronchitis. SCIBELLI: I'll be cool. NESHEIWAT: I'm here for you, Tommy, if you ever decide you want to quit. INGRAHAM: Hey, Tommy, did you smoke cigarettes before and was this your way to get off, or no? SCIBELLI: No, no. No cigarettes. Cigarettes are bad for you. I would never do anything that's bad for your lungs or anything. I just stick to Juul. INGRAHAM: Have you heard of wet lungs, what that is? SCIBELLI: No. So what is that? INGRAHAM: Wet lungs, doctor, explain it to us, because now we are finding a lot of Juul usurers developing this syndrome called wet long. NESHEIWAT: Sure, it's also known as popcorn lung -- SCIBELLI: I love popcorn. NESHEIWAT: -- which can cause scarring and inflammation in your lungs. And actually people who start off using Juul or vaping products, that has been considered to be a gateway drug and can lead people to actually start smoking real cigarettes. And that is a concern. SCIBELLI: No, popcorn is delicious. I'm not worried about that. INGRAHAM: So what flavor do you use, Tommy? SCIBELLI: I usually go mango. Mango is my go-to, but I will blow whatever, whatever is in front of me. INGRAHAM: They are regulating it now. The flavors are gone. You should go full on menthol cigarettes. SCIBELLI: The man can't stop me. They can't stop me. NESHEIWAT: That's the other thing, Laura, is that they are targeting these cigarettes to children, mango, Hawaiian punch. That's just criminal. INGRAHAM: That's the problem, the tutti-frutti, the cotton candy. All right, guys, we are going to check in with Tommy smokes in about six years and see how he's doing. But this was a fun segment. Stay there. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. First lady Melania Trump is spreading her Be Best initiative, I think. Are we using that one? All right, we love Melania, but we have to do this. We are going to do Melania tomorrow. Kamala Harris, let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. KAMALA HARRIS, (D) CALIFORNIA: Are you aware of the perception of many about how the power and discretion at ICE is being used to enforce the laws, and do you see any parallels? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I do not see any parallels. (END VIDEO CLIP) Load-Date: November 16, 2018 End of Document Latest Developments on Migrant Caravan Crisis; Interview with Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi; Interview with Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina; President Trump Pushes a Legislation that Will Change the Old Prison System Which Was Written During the Bush Administration; Stormy Daniels' Attorney, Michael Avenatti, Now Bailed for $50,000 after He Was Arrested by Los Angeles Police Department for Domestic Violence; the Associated Press Reports that Hundreds of Migrants Have Already Arrived at the U.S. Southern Border; According to Reports, Presidents Trump's Legal Team Maybe Turning Written Responses to Questions from Bob Mueller, and the Special Counsel Could Also be Wrapping Up His Report on the Russia Probe Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 14, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7427 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter Trace Gallagher Guests: Pam Bondi, Lindsey Graham, Austan Goolsbee, Daryl Parks Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: First, congratulations on two years. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Thank you. HANNITY: You deserve all of it. You're right. We don't have this job without those great audience. CARLSON: That's for sure. That is true. HANNITY: All right. One thing I got to add. This is your second year anniversary. When you get in your 23rd year, a little bit of this white stuff is going to start sneaking in. I'm just warning you. CARLSON: Oh, no. Grecian formula, that's where I'm going. HANNITY: All right. Tucker, thanks tonight. And all the best as always. CARLSON: Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Welcome to HANNITY. So much breaking tonight. The first members of that migrant caravan, they have arrived in our southern border. Now, some are actually seen scaling the fence between Tijuana, San Diego. We have the video. Thousands more just days away marching by foot through Mexico, demanding passage into the U.S. Now, coming up, we'll bring you a full report to what is now becoming potentially a serious situation and show you how the left is trying their best to play it down, ignore what could be a looming crisis. Now, we'll also cover another serious situation, that is these massive, deadly wildfires ravaging California as we speak tonight. By the way, our prayers with everybody out there impacted by this horrific fire. And we have more post absurd election drama out of Florida and Georgia tonight. We will reveal how Democrats are trying to rewrite the rules, upend the will of the American people. Once again, the armchair constitutional scholars on mainstream networks, left-wing networks, guess what? Dead wrong again. The Department of Justice, they are standing behind President Trump's appointment of Matthew Whitaker as the new acting attorney general. We also have an update tonight. I knew it was coming. Mueller's which hunt. And, by the way, we have serious news, Michael Avenatti. He is the attorney for Stormy Daniels. Has been arrested on serious charges. And on minutes, I will take on two -- not one, two liberals on everything from the border wall, the Trump agenda, the caravan, you name it, we'll get to it. All right. Sit tight. A lot of news. Time for our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. We've been warning you now for weeks, thousands upon thousands of undocumented migrants, they have been marching towards America, our southern border. Now, the vast majority of these people, I've been saying, I believe are coming here in search of a better life. More opportunity, a land of opportunity, and freedom. But here's the problem. These individuals, they have not been vetted -- no background checks, no criminal history checks, no proof of employment, no family ties to the U.S., no comprehension, in some cases, of what the laws of America are, no case for asylum. Many have no paperwork whatsoever. But they are demanding entry into the United States. And tonight, the first migrants have now reached our southern border. A group of around 80 migrants that split off from the much larger group, they claimed widespread harassment, mistreatment at the hands of their fellow migrants, and they were able to fast-track their journey north and advance to the United States. According to the "A.P." tonight, while another group of several hundred migrants will arrive the next few days. Now, some have tried to scale the U.S. border fence -- look at these videos -- right near Tijuana. Others crawled through openings forced to crawl back because U.S. border control agents responded and they are about to enforce the law. That is not a good first impression. This is just a small part of how many people are actually coming, and a clear warning of a looming crisis. And according to reports from Mexican officials who as many as 10,000 migrants are just days away. Now, the Department of Homeland Security is warning and they have put out statements that over 270 suspected criminals, gang members, drug traffickers have been blending in with what is mostly a male caravan. We've also learned that some illegal immigrants previously deported from the U.S., they are also attached to the group. Now, 7,000 active duty U.S. soldiers, they have been deployed to help secure the southern border. Now, they have been laying razor wire and conducting and constructing other barriers to prevent illegal immigration, protecting our sovereignty, our rule of law. We are a constitutional republic. It's important to remember, weeks ago, we witnessed the breaking down of that fence as you can see in southern Mexico in their border, crashing the gates into that country. This is a serious situation and an important reminder about why strong borders the rule of law, and yes, the wall is so important. Now, if the president's plan has been implemented so far for a massive border wall, that had been completed with the big door in it, as he has said, the situation would be mitigated. It would be controlled. As a matter of fact, it would not even be a possibility of some type of confrontation. America needs immigrants. But we have to vet anyone, everyone coming into this country. We have to do everything in our power, other bad people, even if they are mixing in with good people, from entering this country. This is the very reason why Democrats few short years ago supported the enforcement of our border laws and our border. Remember this? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON (D), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in. I do think you have to control your borders. SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: People who enter the United States without our permission are illegal aliens and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who enter the U.S. legally. The American people will never accept immigration reform unless they truly believe the government is committed to ending future illegal immigration. BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: Those who enter our country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law. And because we live in an age where terrorists are challenging our borders, we cannot allow people to pour into the U.S. undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh, of course, now they are singing a much different tune. They sounded like Donald Trump. The party has moved so far radical left that virtually no Democrats supports border enforcement. And now with the caravan marching north, the left is doing anything and everything to play this situation down. It could get serious. Imagine, for a second, thousands of people -- not just 80, at the border, what happens then? Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When we are sending 15,000 troops to the border for a political stunt? That's a warning sign. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is no doubt that what the president has been considering great strategy to bring out his base? You know, this stupid caravan conspiracy which hasn't been talked about since election day. REP. RUBEN GALLEGO (D), ARIZONA: We see what he's doing with our troops at the border, essentially using them as props. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It seems we've got the all clear. The emergency is over. The solution of the caravan invasion all along, it wasn't the troops, it wasn't the wall, it was apparently just getting past the midterm elections. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And I just remember when I would look up every night it was, the caravan is coming! They are going to take your job! They are going to be doing all this. And it's like, and now, you don't hear anything. Those people, they bought it hook, line and sinker. People bought it, oh, my gosh, we should be putting a barbed wire. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Some people did, some people -- (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, unlike CNN, MSNBC, their cohorts in the Democratic Party, we are going to continue to track what is a very serious situation. And meanwhile, we're also following some horrific news out of California. Wildfires ripping through areas in both northern and southern California. Now, the statewide death toll is up now towards 51. Thousands of buildings, homes, other structures destroyed, billions of dollars in damages. And an entire town was even burned to the ground. The devastation was shocking. Tonight many are looking for answers, making a serious case. Could this fire have been prevented? Now, according to "The Wall Street Journal" editorial board tonight, federal, state, environmental protections have left the drought impacted forest invulnerable to these fires. Now, there's nearly 130 million trees that are dead. That have died in the past seven years alone, the government has prevented them from being cleared. For example, quote, the Endangered Species Act, the National Environmental Policy Act have hampered tree clearing, controlled burns, timber sales on federal land. The article goes on, quote: California also restricts timber harvesting and requires myriad permits and environmental impact statements to prune overgrown forests. And in California, quote, to burn leaves, tree limbs, land owners must obtain air quality permits. Now, these permits are extremely restrictive, can be difficult to produce, controlled maintenance in California's forest, we get these forests put out -- when these fires are put out, this has to be a top priority. We cannot put peoples' lives in jeopardy. These fires cause more far worse at environmental damage than a controlled burn, or timber excavation and human lives are irreplaceable here. It shouldn't take another fire for laws to be adjusted and all the people in California now in these areas have their lives at risk. And, by the way, our prayers are with all of them. All impacted by this horrific crisis. Look at that. It is out of control. And we will continue to track this story. But first, we do turn to Florida. The election catastrophe that is ongoing. Tonight, the statewide recount continues with tomorrow's deadline looming. Both Republicans, Ron DeSantis, Rick Scott, they do look poised for victory. And tonight, there are still so many questions surrounding the sketchy actions of Broward County and its supervisor of elections Brenda Snipes. Now, she somehow managed to magically find -- oh, I found it -- 75,000 purportedly uncounted ballots days and days after election night, by the way, all in violation of state law and the state constitution. And Snipes continued to report these ballots in the week following the election. And for days, she wouldn't tell anybody where these ballots were coming from. Now, tonight, we still have no idea what happened and President Trump, he's calling for her to be fired. But as the recount rolls on, Snipes, well, did have time to go on CNN and defend herself. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have been cited, Ms. Snipes, as a problem in this process, that you're not doing the job a transparency, and you're not doing it with the efficiency that gives confidence in the overall process. How do you respond? BRENDA SNIPES, BROWARD COUNTY SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS: Well, you know, those are opinions that people have put forward for their own various reasons. But I like to call your attention that this midterm election, in addition to running very smoothly, was one of the most highly participated midterm elections probably that we've had in 20 years or more. There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes to make an election possible, to make it efficient, and to make it something that voters want to participate in. And, obviously, we are doing that. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Now, given a poor track record as we have detailed every night on this program with deadlines, maybe she needs to be doing her job, counting the votes instead of going on interviews. Now, tonight, Florida is not the only state facing insane election drama. In the state of Georgia, Democrats are refusing to concede that governor's race. That's between Stacy Abrams and Republican Brian Kemp, despite no path to victory for Abrams. By the way, they're not stopping there. Far left Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown, he is ramping conspiracy theories, and accusing Republicans of outright stealing the election, kind of rich considering all we've seen in Florida. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D), OHIO: If Stacey Abrams doesn't win in Georgia, they stole it. It's clear. I say that publicly. It's clear. They can't win elections because there's way more of us than there are them. They can't win elections fairly. They win elections by redistricting and reapportionment and voter suppression, in all the ways they try to scare people, particularly people of color, how to make it hard for people in college campuses, especially community college where there are more low income people and more people of color. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: It's beyond sad, despicable, sadly predictable sometimes with some people, you know, stirring racial tensions. And remember, redistricting, that would have zero impact or effect on the statewide race. But of course, this is nothing new from this crop of radical Democrats. There seemed to be no moderates left in the party. They are all literally cheering for Robert Mueller. Please, find something, anything. We can't do it on our own. And tonight, we have new developments from that witch hunt. FOX News has learned that President Trump and his legal team are on the verge of making a decision about whether to submit written answers to the special counsel. That development follows the latest on from Senator Jeff snowflake who again today exposed himself, well, not as a conservative. Now, Majority Leader McConnell flatly rejected Flake's bill for, quote, protecting Mueller to the floor. President said recently he has no plans to do anything with Mueller and Flake is threatening the president, all his Republican colleagues, saying he will oppose all the presidents judicial nominees until he gets his way and the Senate votes on that legislations that supposedly protects Mueller from being fired by the president which isn't happening, blocking conservative judges, breaking a promise to the people you represent in Arizona? Senator Flake, tonight, he should be ashamed. And also breaking tonight, the armchair constitutional scholars on left- wing mainstream so-called media networks and the Democratic Party, they were all wrong. The acting attorney general, as we all told you on this program, Matt Whitaker, he did receive the full backing of the Department of Justice. The DOJ releasing a 20-page memo explaining the things we told you, that Whitaker is unquestionably authorized to lead the department. And they cited the very law we had cited, a 1998 law that called the Federal Vacancies Reform Act, and the Appointment Clause of the U.S. Constitution, adding that there have been, quote, countless similar presidential orders dating back over 200 years. And finally tonight, we're going to end with one very important topic and it's called due process, the presumption of innocence. I have been saying all during the Kavanaugh hearings, a foundational principle in a fair and just society, it has served this country so well, a pillar, our constitutional republic. And, by the way, if you remember during Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings, we defended this principle from baseless attacks and irresponsible accusations by individuals, some on the left, some for political gain. And, of course, we have that fame seeking attorney Michael Avenatti who is one of those irresponsible actors. And he brought forth claims from a client who accused Kavanaugh of gang rape almost on a weekend basis and drugging young teenage girls, boys lining up in the hall, and one by one, quote, waiting their turn to rape these young women. There was no evidence, that story eventually changed. Avenatti demanded his client and all others, you know, who had made accusations, that they should all be believed. You might remember this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL AVENATTI, STORMY DANIELS' ATTORNEY: If the president was smart, if he wasn't so arrogant, he would see the writing on the wall, and he would pull this nomination immediately. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you make accusation or allegation of whether or not you stay or go, Michael, what does it set up for the future? AVENATTI: I mean, that's a very good point, Chris, but I think we're beyond that from what I understand, relating to the lie detector test being passed, which of course is not admissible in a court of law. We're not talking about a mere accusation or allegation. And here's another important point. This isn't going to be adjudicated in one day or even two days. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, we learned tonight that Michael Avenatti has been arrested. He was taken into custody by the LAPD. He's been charged with a serious charge, and that would be felony, domestic violence. He is denying these allegations. He is proclaiming his innocence. And I will be consistent on the issues of due process and the resumption of innocence. But one can only wonder if now maybe Michael Avenatti would apply the same standard to himself that he had applied to Justice Kavanaugh. Or maybe tonight that he would prefer the country give him due process, and the presumption of innocence. Or will you lock yourself up and just throw away the key? I believe he deserves assumption of innocence, due process. Let the legal system do their job. And hope and pray that the right justice and answer comes through. All right. Joining us now with an update on Florida is the attorney general of that state, Pam Bondi. Pam, thank you for coming back. Let's go to the criminal investigation of what is going on there. I have been told by numerous sources that varying pieces of evidence have now been handed over to various law enforcement agencies in Broward that know things about what happened in Broward County and Palm Beach? Can you confirm that? PAM BONDI (R), FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: No, Sean. It's a pending criminal investigation. FDLE has opened a hotline with us. Folks can call in if they have information. But right now, it is a pending criminal investigation. I laid out in my letter why we do believe there is plenty of reasonable suspicion for criminal activity. And that investigation will continue. On the flip side, we are working tirelessly right now, constantly, on the civil suits that are being filed, and frankly not by Bill Nelson, but by everybody who's been using him as a pawn. HANNITY: Explain -- before we know that, we do know laws were broken. And we do know, for example, 30 minutes after the polls close, you are supposed to report. You're supposed to report every 45 minutes. Other laws that we know have been broken, and it seems like certainly it's been mishandling. I mean, all of a sudden, you find a box of ballots in a rental car in Tampa from Broward County. That seems pretty problematic to me. The laws that we thought were broken, what the judge said on Friday said was the Florida constitution not being abided by, what happens in those cases. BONDI: Well, Sean, everything is being reviewed and looked at as it comes in. And again, citizens, if you have more to bring to us, bring it to us. Please? Call the Florida department of law enforcement. And that's why we're not waiting until this is over. We've started a criminal investigation now. I can't discuss any more about it because it is ongoing. And that's much different than the civil lawsuits that have been found. But this is very serious. We are taking it very seriously. Law enforcement is taking it very seriously, because it's the integrity of our elections. HANNITY: Putting aside the recount in 2000. You have 2004, we had problems. 2012, 2014, 2016, '17, and in August of last year, we had a judge's ruling about misconduct in a particular election. My question is how is it even possible, with all of those violations leading up to this, that the very same people were in place? I think people of Florida and the country need to know. This is not just a Florida issue. This impacts all the country. BONDI: It sure does. It does. It's the integrity of our democracy, our elections, the bedrock of which we are founded, our country. And that's why we are taking it so very important. But ethically, I cannot talk about a pending criminal investigation. You should be a prosecutor, though, because you've come up with some very good points that I think law enforcement, I'm certain, are taking into consideration. HANNITY: All right. Pam Bondi, thanks. We will update this obviously until we get a results. Of course, another delay because the machine got heated in the recount in Palm Beach. The machines don't work. It's unbelievable. Pam Bondi, thank you. All right. When we come back, Senator Lindsey Graham says he will be ready to reopen a Hillary Clinton email investigation. We'll talk about the recount with him. He will also be the next chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee. We'll explain that. Later, well, it kind of takes two on one. I'm going to debate two liberals about what is going on with the migrant caravan, we'll talk more about Avenatti, and the California wildfires. A lot more news straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. The recount continues tonight in Florida. But, first, according to new reports, Senator Lindsey Graham may be the next chair of the Judiciary Committee as Senator Grassley weighs his departure, increasing the chances of a full investigation into the FBI, their handling of the Clinton email probe. And joining us now with more reaction, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. Senator, good to see you. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Thank you. HANNITY: Before we get to that, I want to ask you about your thoughts on the recount and all of a sudden, you know, 80,000 here, 15,000 here, they just keep showing up. GRAHAM: Well, if Rick Scott had not weighed in the way he did, and President Trump had not spoken up, I think they would've stole this thing from us. Ninety-something thousand votes counted after the polls close. We stopped the bleeding. He has a lead now that can't be overcome in my view by a recount. So, I think Rick Scott is going to win this and I think mathematically Nelson is eliminated. But thank God that President Trump and Rick Scott took this seriously. HANNITY: Yes. Senator, we have a lot of important judicial appointments. We have the threat by Jeff Flake tonight about protecting Mueller. And I know you said that is fine, but the president said he has no intention of firing Mueller. It looks like some agreement has been made by the reports I read, between the president's lawyers and the special counsel, written answers. That would mean this is now coming to an end, at least in my mind. GRAHAM: Well, this is a manufactured problem. President Trump is not going to fire Mueller. Mueller is going to be allowed to do his job. And we need conservative judges on the bench, as many as we can, as often as we can get them. I don't know what Senator Grassley is going to do. He's been a great chairman of the committee. If I'm chairman next chairman, we are going to do judges, judges, and more judges. And at the end of the day, I am convinced that Mr. Mueller will be allowed to do his job. I've not seen one scintilla of evidence of collusion. The obstruction of justice thing never made any sense to me. You can fire somebody who works as a political employment, the FBI director can be fired for almost any reason. And the Democrats wanted Comey fired. So, I feel good about everything right now. HANNITY: In many things, I think you had a key moment in the Kavanaugh hearings when you spoke up. It was a powerful moment and an important one in terms of what was going on with Justice now Kavanaugh. And one of the people that made the most outrageous claims was Michael Avenatti. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: He's facing serious charges tonight. But that story, we now know, it changed with the client that he was representing. It changed pretty dramatically in terms of what she said. He made these accusations, and as I've been playing, I'm not saying this -- I believe in due process and the presumption of innocence, especially with serious charges. It has served this country so well. And to not be consistent, make me a hypocrite, I am consistent. But I wonder if you have thoughts about this tonight. GRAHAM: Well, number one, Ms. Swetnick's affidavit on its face just made no sense. Who would repeatedly go to parties for women who are being drugged and raped and not say anything about it and keep putting yourself at risk? So, the claim by Ms. Swetnick that was authored by Mr. Avenatti actually helped us because it was over the top. Now, he's being charged, seems like a credible allegation, but he's entitled to the presumption of innocence. And I will give him that do. I'm not out to get Mr. Avenatti by turning the legal system upside down. HANNITY: Nor am I. Whatever is fair, right, just, moral, let's stay with that. GRAHAM: Right, exactly. HANNITY: You said you are ready, perhaps, to reopen the Hillary email investigation. We know the Democrats in the House, they've been doing hundreds of different investigations. This is what is important to me, and people have said, well, why do you talk about Clinton? Because it's -- do we have dual justice system, or equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws? That would mean an exoneration before an investigation in the case of Hillary Clinton. That would mean if we are going to talk about Russia and Russian influence, that has to go to the dossier, bought and paid for, funneled money into a law firm into an op research group, to a foreign national. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: The bunk lies the author wouldn't even himself stand by when pressed in an interrogatory in Great Britain. Then, the leaking of such information to influence the 2016 elections, lies about Donald Trump paid for from Russia. And then of course, being used to appoint a special counsel. It is all of that on the table for you? GRAHAM: You know, to my Democratic friends, if you want to look backwards, we are all going to look backwards. I want to know why the FBI reached to the conclusion along with the Department of Justice that Hillary Clinton didn't commit a crime. Was it because of political bias? If you really wanted to stop Trump, how in the world could you indict her? Was the reason she wasn't indicted is because they wanted to make sure they stop Trump and how can you stop him if you indict her? HANNITY: Yes. GRAHAM: Did the Department of Justice and the FBI use a document paid for by the Democratic Party? Research by foreign agents to get a warrant against an American citizen that was inappropriate, potentially unlawful? We need a special counsel to look at all of this. But I intend to look at it. HANNITY: I agree. GRAHAM: I'm going to look at it. If you are going to keep plowing everything up in 2016, count me in. If you want to look for it, I will look for it. If you want to look back, we will all going to look back to everything and everybody. Not just a Trump. HANNITY: Let me ask you this. I forgot the fraud on the FISA court, because that was the-- (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: That's the fraud on the FISA court. HANNITY: -- Grassley-Graham memo. GRAHAM: yes. HANNITY: The bulk of -- quote, "the bulk of information came from the phony, unverified, uncorroborated dossier that mostly has been debunked." You know, there's a proposal by the White House today about prison reform. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: I had the opportunity. We also had the video of Alice Marie Johnson, and when -- one defense, it was serious, 22 years in jail, raced out to the arms of her family. It was beyond a touching moment. And said thank you, America, for giving me a second chance, I'll not let you down when the president pardoned her. And I look at prison reform. We've got two million people in jail. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: In a five-year period, a 77 percent recidivism rate. I want to find every Alice Marie Johnson in America and I'd love the president to pardon one such person, 10 people a day if we can do that, because I think we do need real reform. There is unfairness in the system. GRAHAM: Yes. Wouldn't it be ironic if it was Donald Trump who fixed the problems created by the three strikes, you out rule passed by Bill Clinton? Wouldn't it be ironic it was Donald Trump and the Republican Congress working with Democrats that allowed just thousands of African-American and Hispanic males a second chance for nonviolent offenses? And create bed space for truly violent people. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, punishment is not working. If you have a 77 percent recidivism rate, locking you up in a place with bad people and you're not helping or advancing and changing hearts and minds, it makes sense to me. But senator, well follow that more. I think there is a lot of potential there. GRAHAM: Yes, sure. HANNITY: Imagine the president transforming the power of the pardon for every Alice Marie Johnson who I met and is an amazing woman. I think it would be great for the country. GRAHAM: Well, getting minorities out of jail, giving them a second chance, improving the economy for African- American, Hispanic families is a very big deal. HANNITY: Senator, good to see you. Thank you for being with us. When we come back, I'm not taking on one. No. It's kind of always unfair when a conservative debates a liberal. I'm taking on two. I'll explain next. We also have deep state news and an update on the Mueller investigation. Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, they have the latest, and Trace Gallagher here he will give us an update on Michael Avenatti's arrest as Hannity continues. Stay with us. HANNITY: All right. So, some of the migrant caravan have arrived at our southern border and now we see thousands of others also coming. The A.P. reporting, quote, "migrant caravan groups arrived by hundreds at U.S. border." Joining us now for a debate, former chair of the council of economic advisor of President Obama, Austan Goolsbee, and civil rights attorney, Daryl Parks. Austan, it's so good to see you, you know why? Because I just played at the beginning of the show, I hope you are watching a guy by the name of Barack Obama, who you love! You absolutely adore and who I think did a horrible job. OK. We disagree. And he sounded like Donald Trump about protecting our borders, respecting our sovereignty. What has happened from then until now? AUSTAN GOOLSBEE, FORMER BARACK OBAMA CHIEF ECONOMIST: Only good things. You know, look, Sean, you and I have been friends for a long time. HANNITY: Yes. GOOLSBEE: And I will say among Democrats, among liberals, I'm totally in agreement that a country should control who comes into that country. So we should secure the border. HANNITY: All right. Hang on. Mark this moment, that means you and your wife, who I have met and had dinner with, I finally had influence with you. GOOLSBEE: Yes. HANNITY: We are making progress. GOOLSBEE: Well, look, here's what I'm saying. The caravan -- I'm glad you are at least following up on this. The president was out Trumpeting this as an invasion and the biggest threat to national security. The vast majority of the people in this caravan are still in the city of Guadalajara which is a 800, 900 miles away from the U.S. border. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But they are now getting transportation. GOOLSBEE: And there are women escaping domestic violence in Guatemala. There are four-year old kids -- this is not what we should be -- if you're concerned about border security-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, let me tell you why we should be concern. GOOLSBEE: -- let's put the focus where it should be. Not on these kids. HANNITY: Daryl, let me -- let me concede. Putting aside, 300 have been identified by both Mexican officials and Department of Homeland Security as to be bad elements that are trying to mix in with the caravan crowd of migrants. And as I watch them, I would argue probably 99 plus percent are good people, live in poverty, horrible lives, want what we all take for granted in this country. It's the 300 others that we have to worry about. Here's what I am afraid of. Here's the video of what happened at the southern border in Mexico. And that is they take defense, they knock it down, they race across the border. For the safety and security of everybody, if this happens on our southern border, I don't want anybody hurt. All we are asking, if you want to come to this country, to do it legally. You are a lawyer. Do you respect the law? DARYL PARKS, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Without question we respect the law, Sean. And we expect that those people who want to get to the border they are going to do the right thing. These people are -- we shouldn't demonize them. They are trying to escape poverty, they are trying to escape political instability. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I didn't demonize -- did I demonize? PARKS: I know you didn't. And I'm glad you didn't. You didn't. Tonight, you are doing great, Sean. Thank you. HANNITY: Tonight, I'm doing great, all right. Just tonight, though. PARKS: You are doing great tonight. You do well all the time, but tonight you are doing great. Let me say this thing. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I know you are doing better tonight. PARKS: These people are looking for a better opportunity. They are looking for better opportunities like all of us in America. I'm sure once they get in, they'll follow their rules. HANNITY: But we have laws. PARKS: I don't think we need to be in-- HANNITY: We are a constitutional republic. We have borders, sovereignty, laws. PARKS: Yes, we are. HANNITY: And if you really want to be here, the first -- the first prerequisite has to be, obey our laws, respect our laws. Don't just take it upon yourself. PARKS: OK. HANNITY: Go ahead. (CROSSTALK) GOOLSBEE: I agree with Daryl. You know, the only think I'd say-- PARKS: But at this point we have no indication that they are going to break the rules. GOOLSBEE: Yes, that's true. And remember, our law, if you are coming to apply for asylum, our law requires you to come to a port of entry to apply for asylum. Hundreds of these migrants are literally trying to make appointments to come in and apply for asylum, and we've sent 15,000 U.S. troops skipping their Thanksgiving with their family to go down there and do nothing. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, Austan, the problem is this. You know, we saw what happened -- we just played the tape what happened at the southern Mexico border. We can't have that happen here. And I'll tell you why. PARKS: But Sean, a few people-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The first people that need to be protected are the innocent people that want a better life, let's protect them first. GOOLSBEE: OK, I agree with that. We can all agree on that. Yes. Now 40 percent of the people-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: This is a really bad-- GOOLSBEE: -- that come to the U.S. illegally, 40 percent of the people that come to the U.S. illegally come to the airport, Sean. They come in and then they overstay their visas. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And we are trying to make improvements there as well, Daryl. PARKS: Well, without question. I hope and pray these people will come, they will apply properly and they will get the opportunities that our country can provide them to and be-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I think you should give them pro bono legal work. I think you should do them for free and Austan will help pay for it because he's a really rich guy. (CROSSTALK) GOOLSBEE: When you finally pay me for my bet, Sean, I will be a rich guy. HANNITY: I have overpaid you for your debt. you don't remember the dinner I paid for? GOOLSBEE: Wait a minute, wait a minute, you did pay for that dinner, but that was on a technicality. HANNITY: A technicality! A thousand dollars-- (CROSSTALK) GOOLSBEE: But you bet me six -- you said Obamacare was going to cost 100 million people their insurance. So, I'm still waiting for that one. HANNITY: Excuse me, millions -- OK, the cost-- (CROSSTALK) GOOLSBEE: You said 100 million. HANNITY: -- is between 100, 200, and 300 percent -- so many counties have one option. Many millions lost their doctors, their plans and everybody is paying more. Broken promises. GOOLSBEE: Yes, but not 100 million. So, you are going to be paying me more! HANNITY: Well, what do you say to the millions of Americans paying more, lost their doctor, lost their plan, only have one option now? That's it. GOOLSBEE: I tell those people to say, thanks, President Trump. HANNITY: You've lost your mind. But see, it takes two liberals, once conservative. This way it works. Anyway, thank you both. When we come back, we have some big breaking news, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett. Surprising developments in the Mueller probe. Also, the latest on Michael Avenatti's arrest from earlier tonight. Does he tonight believe in due process? Has he changed his mind on the presumption of innocence? That straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. The Mueller investigation maybe finally wrapping up tonight, the Trump administration, according to reports, maybe turning written responses to questions from special counsel as early as this week. And today, in the U.S. Senate, Mitch McConnell blocked the legislation put forth by Senator, well, Jeff 'snow' Flake that would, quote, "protect Mueller from being fired." Even though President Trump said he's not firing him. Here with reaction, the author of the number one New York Times bestseller, "The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump," Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, Fox News contributor, Sara Carter. Sar, you just heard Lindsey Graham, and very clear that starting in the beginning, Hillary Clinton, exoneration before an investigation. Then of course the FISA abuse and FISA court fraud that was committed, the bulk of information being the unverified dossier that not even Christopher Steele would stand by, and of course trying to influence the 2016 election with bought and paid for Russian lies and using the false information circular reporting to also influence the appointment of special counsel. A lot there. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: A lot there, Sean. And I think Senator Graham is right off the money. If we get Senator Graham and he takes the chairmanship of the Senate judiciary committee, I can guarantee you that he's going to move forward with this. The American people need this. They want this to wrap up. They want to know the truth. This is why not only does there need to be an investigation by the Senate judiciary committee, but we also need those documents declassified and only the president can do this. The only way to get to the truth is to get transparency, to get those documents declassified. That's the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant on Carter Page. We also need the gang of eight to find her. HANNITY: The gang of eight, 302's. CARTER: Yes, and the 302s by Bruce Ohr. This is what needs to be done now so that we can move forward. HANNITY: You know, it's interesting. Because Donald Trump was able to defy the history of Bill Clinton who lost 60 seats, eight Senate seats in his first midterm. Obama who lost, Gregg, six seats in the Senate but 63 House seats. And he fought to keep the Senate as hard as he did. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Right. HANNITY: It's rather profound now because all of the threats that the Democrats are making, all of this would move right over to the U.S. Senate, wouldn't it? (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: Right. It's absolutely would. HANNITY: And oversight. JARRETT: And Lindsey Graham is the perfect person to conduct the investigation. Because he knows there is a plethora of evidence that there was an illicit scheme by the FBI and Department of Justice to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump. And he would reopen the Hillary Clinton email case -- you know, it's a crime for an FBI director or official or agent-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Eighteen USC 793 I have it etched in my brain. JARRETT: Yes. It is a crime to hide incriminating evidence and to make a decision about a case, the Clinton case, for political reasons. So Lindsey Graham will investigate that. HANNITY: Let me ask you this. If it's true, all the reports that there are going to be written answers only on Russia, not on any obstruction -- because the president can fire anybody he wants. You know, Jerry Nadler saying, well, he wants to investigate, you know, what the president said -- it's meaningless if he said something, didn't do it. But is this the beginning of the end if, in fact, there is not going to be a subpoena, written answers are going to be handed in? It sounds like the airplane is now heading in for a landing, Sara. CARTER: It is. It is. Every source that I've spoken with tonight and over the past week says that Mueller is going to wrap up this investigation. We are not going to see anything happen to President Trump. What we might see is some indictments, maybe Roger Stone, Jerome Corsi who is his assistant, Roger Stone's assistant very closely involved with him. One of the things that I did, Sean, that to me is so important, and there was never any evidence -- never, from the very beginning of this investigation by the FBI, that there was any kind of collusion, which isn't a crime anyway, but there was never any evidence-- HANNITY: None. CARTER: -- the the Trump campaign was working with the Russians. HANNITY: Only on Hillary's side. CARTER: Only on Hillary's side. Absolutely. HANNITY: We only have about 40 seconds I want to give it to Gregg. I believe in due process deeply. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: The presumption of innocence, you are on a lot with us during the Kavanaugh hearings. Michael Avenatti serious charges tonight. I believe he deserves that also. JARRETT: He does. HANNITY: I'm sincere. JARRETT: You should be commended for what you said about that. Because everybody, including Michael Avenatti, deserves the presumption of innocence and due process, but isn't it ironic that Avenatti was the one who didn't want to afford due process and presumption of innocence to Brett Kavanaugh? HANNITY: Maybe. JARRETT: I wonder how he feels tonight. HANNITY: That's the question. You know, does he now believe in that? Because he is claiming his innocence? And as a matter of fact -- thank you, both. We will have a full report and an update on Michael Avenatti's arrest as we continue tonight on HANNITY. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with the very latest news on the arrest, serious charges, Stormy Daniels' lawyer, Michael Avenatti, Fox News Correspondent, Trace Gallagher. Trace, very serious charges, it's a very strong denial by attorney Michael Avenatti. Tell us. TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Sean. Michael Avenatti was booked on felony domestic violence. The Los Angeles Police Department wouldn't identify the alleged victim or say how Avenatti knew her, but police did say she had visible injuries. And TMZ is reporting the injuries were on her face and were, quote, "serious." There are also reports that Avenatti says she hit him first, calling the situation, quote, "B.S." Police say the alleged violence happened yesterday in West Los Angeles. Avenatti was arrested today and posted a $50,000 bond just a short time ago. When he walked out of jail, Avenatti diplomatically thanked the police for their hard work and then said this. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL AVENATTI, STORMY DANIELS' ATTORNEY: I have never struck a woman. I never will strike a woman. I have been an advocate for women's rights my entire career and I'm going to continue to be an advocate. I am not going to be intimidated from stopping what I am doing. (END VIDEO CLIP) GALLAGHER: Unclear exactly what he's, quote, "doing," but there's been talk of a 2020 presidential run. He was reportedly set to speak this weekend at events for the Vermont Democratic Party but had to cancel. Avenatti became well known for being Stormy Daniels' attorney and then brought forward serious allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. Those allegations were later knocked down. We don't know when the Avenatti has to appear in court again. Sean? HANNITY: OK. And these are felony charges, correct, that we are looking at? GALLAGHER: Felony assault charges against him. Very serious. Don't know what the jail time is, but these are serious charges if proven. HANNITY: All right. Trace Gallagher, thank you. I do believe in due process, presumption of innocence. And it should take place here as well. Let not your heart be troubled. We're always fair, balanced, not the destroy-Trump media. Laura Ingraham? Take it away. Load-Date: November 15, 2018 End of Document Exclusive Interview wtih House Majority Leader McCarthy and Whip Scalise; Media Tries to Obscure Claims of Voter Fraud; Snipes Disturbing History Overseeing Elections; Florida Election Countdown Showdown; GOP Unites and Exposes the Fraud of the Left; Election Incompetence is a Travesty of Democracy; Media Gives Dems Free Pass to Claim Vote Fraud; Left Claims Kemp Stole GA Governor's Election; Media Downplays GOP Concerns over Voter Fraud; Where Does GOP Stand after Midterm Election?; Michelle Obama Goes on Book Tour; Michael Avenatti Arrested on Domestic Violence Charges; Criticism of President Trump's Appointment of Matt Whitaker as Acting Attorney General Examined; Part of Migrant Caravan Reaches U.S.- Mexico Border Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 14, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8098 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Richard Denapoli, Dan Bongino Blaise Ingoglia, David Bossie, Kevin McCarthy, Steve Scalise, Ken Starr, Andy McCarthy, Tom Homan Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't know what the jail time is, but these are serious charges if proven. SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Trace Gallagher, thank you. I do believe in due process, presumption of innocence. And it should take place here as well. Let not your heart be troubled. The always fair balance, not the destroyed Trump media, Laura Ingraham? Take it away. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, thanks so much. Fantastic show as always tonight. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington tonight, a lot to bring you and we will unpack it all. What's really going on with the ballot box in Florida? Tonight, ANGLE investigates the corruption and dirty dealings and tells you why the GOP should unite to fight it. And lawyer to the porn stars, you heard Hannity talking about Michael Avenatti and some legal troubles of his own. And Michelle Obama taking some sidle cheap shots at President Trump. Raymond Arroyo has got it all in the seen and unseen. Plus, how will they fight the new Democratic majority in congress? Republican majority leader Kevin McCarthy and whipped Steve Scalise are here exclusively. And former independent counsel Ken Starr and Andy McCarthy are here as well. Lots of legal developments to unpack, but first, Snipes and swipes at the ballot box. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. The integrity of our elections is imperiled tonight. We may be witnessing yet another in a series of stolen elections in Florida. Democrats are experts at pulling swifties (ph) at the ballot box, you know, it is widely believed that they resorted to voter fraud in Illinois and Texas to tilt the election of John F Kennedy over Nixon in 1960. And they may be up to their old tricks again. Ballot irregularities in Palm Beach and Broward County in Florida are front and center. The President, of course, has been very vocal about what he believes is happening there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, you take a look at the past. Take a look at the past. And all of a sudden they are finding votes? You mean, after the election they are finding votes? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Predictably, the media had rush in to pooh-pooh any notion of voter fraud. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is no evidence to back up the claim, aimed at the Florida recount. But it offers a window into the president's state of mind. To be very clear, and I just want to make sure everybody at home understands, there is no evidence to that story. It is like it never happened. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: "The New York Times" yesterday wrote, in Florida, no one has offered evidence of widespread election fraud. No one? I love the weasel word widespread, NATO. If 1-2 counties in Florida are engaged in voter fraud, it is widespread. It affects the entire state results and the results perhaps of the rest of the country. Let's examine the facts. Things are so bad in Palm Beach that Governor Rick Scott, who was in a tight Senate race there, sued the county election supervisor, Susan Bucher. The judge determine that she had a legal withheld over voted and under voted ballots from the canvassing board. And worst she has refused to allow public scrutiny of the ballots. Scott has vowed to fight back against Democrats playing fast and loose with the voter's will. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RICK SCOTT, (R), FLORIDA GOVERNOR SENATE CANDIDATE: I will not sit idly by while unethical liberals try to steal this election from the great people of Florida. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And the governor has also sued Broward County election supervisor -- something of a k-- kind of her own rock star these days Brenda Snipes. Now, Snipes is a piece of work. Her predecessor literally walked out of her office in 2003 for a grave and neglect mismanagement and incompetence. Practically a tradition down there in Broward. And in May, a Judge found Brenda Snipes guilty of illegally destroying ballots during a primary election in 2016. But in August, a court found her guilty of secretly opening mail in ballots, which is illegal in her state. But on Friday, Governor Scott won his lawsuit against Snipes. The court found that in this election, she continued to discover new ballots. She was found in violation of the state's public records law and has been ordered to release information to Governor Scott. So far? She hasn't complied with the order. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: You refused to give the Scott campaign the information they wanted and had to go to court. The judge said you had to turn it over. You didn't turn it over by the deadline that was given. That is cast as a partisan's spat, that you are doing that because you're a Democrat. How do you respond to that? BRENDA SNIPES, ELECTION COMMISSIONER: Well, I was talking with the woman today and she came in the office and she made some statement about a partisan's statement, and she said I know you are a Republican. I said I have been a Democrat all my life. In this position, I have been very focused on Party, because I want to treat all of the voters in Broward County the same. We don't select who we give out information to. We give information to those persons who have requested it. I believe the public records request is in a timely manner. And we attempt to do that. And -- (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And -- wait a second. Did she actually hear the question? This woman is unbelievable. The "Miami Herald" reports that an election worker found bags of uncounted early ballots in the Broward County elections office. Snipes also mingled rejected the provisional ballots with the accepted ones and then she proceeded to count them all in the official vote tally Neato. Now a recount is underway where the counters must discern the intent of the voters if there is a mark on the ballot here or there. My friends, this is a complete travesty that cannot be permitted to change the outcome of this election. It sadly is not restricted to the sunshine state. We are going to show you what some Democrats are trying in Georgia in just moments. So what is next? I think as the Kavanaugh fight demonstrated, the Republicans must stand united to expose the maleficent and the fraud of the left. Because when we do, we usually win. We cannot allow this flouting of the rules and procedures by corrupt officials or political hacks, cannot let it stand. If we allow this to go unchecked, it will undermine our democracy, and like a contagion it's going to spread across the nation. 18 years? Can you believe it, since Bush v Gore? It's absolutely unforgivable that we are still dealing with these type of issues. It is time for the Department of Justice to step in and do a top to bottom investigation regarding why these issues still persist. If necessary, people are going to have to go to jail. There has to be repercussions for willful fraudulent defiance of electoral laws. If this isn't cleaned up, I'm telling you, the GOP can kiss any hopes of restoring their majority, let alone a Presidential victory. They can kiss it bye-bye in 2020. And that is THE ANGLE. Joining me now, Richard Denapoli, former chairman of the Broward County GOP and current state committee man and also a recount monitor, so he is actually in the room while the votes are being tabulated in Broward. And also with me, Blaise Ingoglia, chairman of the Florida Republican Party. Richard, let me start with you tonight. Give me some insight in to what you have uncovered as you have observed what's been going on in your home state, estate we all love so much. What have you found? RICHARD DENAPOLI, ELECTION ACCOUNT MONITOR: Well, it is a national embarrassment here in Broward County. We've had Brenda Snipes as the supervisor of election for about 15 years now. And just a repetitive problems. One after another, she is faced multiple lawsuits over the years, she has illegally destroyed ballots, she has not followed the law. There are so many irregularities in Broward County that all confidence in her is lost as a fair arbiter in the election. You know just myself on Sunday night, and Avis employee from a rental agency at the airport contacted me to let me know that there was a provisional ballot box left in a rental car at the airport which contained unmarked ballots in it. There are a lot of problems here in Broward County. No one has any confidence in Brenda Snipes. INGRAHAM: OK so, a box of unmarked ballots. What can possibly go wrong with that? Just floating around on carts. Are they supposed to even leave the polling places? They don't like it would seem like -- that is like having a test floating around, SAT test floating around or something. That is obviously a lot worse than an SAT test. It is just ridiculous. DENAPOLI: It is. INGRAHAM: Blaise, I want to go to you. Because Snipes seems to be in willful disobedience of court orders. She just simply doesn't care. I mean, she is making $178,000 a year. She is got 10 percent-20 percent salary bump up in 2016. She is making pretty good coin for screwing up another election. But why should anyone have faith in this process here and yet all these media outlets, there is no fraud, no fraud at all? Look the other way. No fraud. BLAISE INGOGLIA, FLORIDA REPUBLICAN PARTY CHAIRMAN: Yes. Laura, to your point, the Florida GOP, we sued Brenda Snipes after last election because we saw a lot of the same stuff happening in this election. We got an order from a Judge just telling to basically to follow the law. Nothing more than just "follow the law." Supervisor Snipes then went to court asking them to lift that order and we had to go back to get them to put that order back in place for this election, but by her asking a judge to lift the order and all the order said was just to follow the law, that goes to show you the mind-set of a supervisor Snipes. She clearly does not want to follow the law, she wants to do what she wants to do, and what she is doing is not transparent. She is doing a lot of stuff behind the scenes outside the public eye and that is eroding the confidence in her abilities and the electoral process that you are referring to. Here is the problem and this is the big problem. There are so many problems going on in Broward and Palm Beach counties. This is where the liberal media gets it wrong. If they keep on saying if there is no evidence of voter fraud, when I am asking is show me that there is no voter fraud going on at all, because of all of these inconsistencies, if there were fraudsters that wanted to fraud in the election all they would have to do is head to Broward or Palm Beach. INGRAHAM: Yes, I mean, it should be the opposite. The burden should be on them to show them this is actually working legitimately. I want to play something for both of you. This is Brenda Snipes last night in a tour de force performance on CNN about the separated ballots. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CUOMO: Your critics point to 2020 rejected provision -- 22 rejected provisional ballots that were put in a batch of 200 valid ones. SNIPES: There were 25 ballots in question, not 21. Those 25 ballots had not been counted as of today. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, one little problem there. Her own lawyer contradicted what she said today. This guy Pettis said, he told reporters following a Saturday deadline to transmit Broward's results at the canvassing board. They had in fact included those provisional ballots and it count. The 205 previously open provisional ballots are they included in the numbers sent to the state or not ask the reporter. Yes, they are Pettis responded. They had been included in that process, but there is no way to separate out valid and invalid, correct? I will go to Blaise -- or Richard. DENAPOLI: Exactly right. The problem here is if she just did her job, which is she is supposed to report the total of 30 minutes after the polls close at 7:00 p.m. And she did not accomplish that while other counties across the state whether large or small, Miami-Dade County with many more voters tabulated its results in a timely fashion, but it all comes down to Broward where over 80,000 ballots came in after the deadline! And that is the core problem here. That is why you have these allegations of fraud, is because, did these ballots actually arrive by the deadline of 7:00 p.m.? Who knows? Only Brenda Snipes knows. INGOGLIA: What so concerning about what Brenda Snipes just said is that she either has no clue what's going on or she is blatantly lying to everyone in the clip. Just think about this for a second. Brenda Snipes took an illegal ballots and willingly mixed them with legal ballots. Just think about that for a second. This is a supervisor of elections. It was such a bad job and such incompetence that they could not tell which ones were legal, which ones were illegal, so they were just, like, you know what, let's just throw them altogether. That is the problem. That is one of the reasons why we, I, the Florida GOP, we have been fighting so hard for transparency. Because unless we know what exactly what they are doing behind closed doors, will never know what they're doing. We have no idea. INGRAHAM: You will never going to know guys and I'm telling you, Republicans will never win Florida again unless these stuff is cleaned up. I mean, every day I keep saying, I can't believe this is happening, but it seems to get worse on a daily basis. They want to extend the deadline to next Tuesday, they want to keep extended the deadline and all these lawsuits because they think they will find the votes? Trump is exactly right. INGOGLIA: Laura, that is because they cannot win unless they litigate their way to a win. Look, there's not enough votes out there. We have 41 of 67 counties report today for the machine recount. Bill Nelson only increased his vote total by 49 votes. At this rate, Bill Nelson will pass Governor Rick Scott in the year 3640. This race is over. INGRAHAM: This is ridiculous. I think the feds have to come in for the state is not cleaning this up. By the way, again, some people might not already know this, but Gillum and Nelson's lawyers are fighting to include noncitizens in the vote in Palm Beach. I guess in the recount. That is in the transcript that came out. Unbelievable. DENAPOLI: The real trial has yet to begin. INGRAHAM: Exactly. Thank you for explaining that. We'll have you back because this is going on for some time. As we just explained, incompetence runs deep in some of the Florida, more Democratic counties. For raising questions, Republicans are told that they are engaged in "wild conspiracy theories.", but some of the most prominent Democrats in the country get a free pass for using completely over-the-top language about the Georgia gubernatorial race without any evidence at all. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If Stacey Abrams doesn't win in Georgia, they stole it. It's clear. I say that publicly. It's clear. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that Stacey Abrams election has been stolen from her using what I think is insidious measures to disenfranchise certain groups of people. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If she had a fair election, she already would have won. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: No media concern about that. Here now, David Bossie, deputy campaign manager for Trump 2016. And of course, Fox News contributor, Dan Bongino, former secret service agent, and are in a TV host. Da, let's start with you. The GOP is diverting the rule of law in Florida by asking folks to follow actual election law, what do you call this from the Democrats in Georgia? DAN BONGINO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I'm not surprise Hillary Clinton thinks Stacey Abrams is the governor. She thinks she is the President. I mean, she legitimately thinks that she won that election -- Hillary Clinton is still confused Laura that the Electoral College is how we elect Presidents and not the popular vote. Not only is this stunning, but this is what the Democrats do now. This is the new M.O., Laura. They lose the senate, you'll see a bunch of liberal outlets, the Vox, every time I say that people think I'm saying box, you know, we see them say wow, we got to disband the senate. This isn't working. The Supreme Court, they lost 111 of it. We got to stack the courts, these are the Democrats! They do not take fidelity to the rule of law seriously. One more thing, Laura, you know, we had a bad night. I mean, Republican, let's just accept it. It wasn't a great night, it wasn't a total wipeout, but it wasn't a good night. Do you know what happened, Laura? Everybody went to work the next day. They took their kids to the soccer game, no one was bashing a Starbucks like Antifa. Just get over it. The Georgia race is over, you lost. INGRAHAM: All right Dave, we are going to get to some of the real numbers in the house later on with Scalise and McCarthy. This Georgia stuff is toxic. They are actually intimating a whole lot of negative things on the left against Brian Kemp to almost delegitimize him before he is inaugurated as the next governor of Georgia. DAVID BOSSIE, LET TRUMP BE TRUMP, AUTHOR: They are doing to Brian Kemp what they did to President Trump right from the first day. He is not a legitimate President. He is not our president. He did not win a rightful election. Therefore, for the last two years, they do not respect him, they bash him, they try to further delegitimize him. And they are going to continue to do this in Georgia, they are going to try to do this to Rick Scott in Florida. They are doing it across the country. Wee this -- I look at this as potentially a stress test for how they want to go ahead and learn from this, even though they will not win everything, they stress test for 2020 so that they can between now and then figure out how to manipulate, how to through litigation and through backdoor maneuvers win these races by stealing them in 2020. INGRAHAM: And Dan, it's not just you know kind a general criticism of the process. The reason the Georgia allegations are so toxic and poisonous all across the board is because they are intimating that Kemp's supporters and the machinery of the process in Georgia is basically racist. That this is a -- you are suppressing black vote by cleaning up voter rolls, which is mandated by law, by the way, but it's always rigged. Always pushing the racial narrative. BONGINO: Yes, Laura, it's really discussing. You are seeing this down in Florida as well with Gillum, the Democrat nominee, he was -- on the campaign trail, he worked hard, he lost fair and square, but the narrative in Florida now as well, there are some racial politics involved and Florida wasn't ready for a black governor -- Laura, Florida voted for Barack Obama twice. I wish they hadn't, but they did. It's such a stupid narrative. And it's really pernicious. I'm glad you're bringing this up, because it is such a -- Laura -- serious question, is there anything worse to call someone in the country a racist? And the liberals know that. They know that it's nonsense. It's really, really sad. They keep ripping the country apart going back to identity politics. INGRAHAM: And Dave, you keep thinking it's not going to go lower, but it does. For all the high and mighty talk, of you know, they go low, we go high, Michelle saying that on the book tour. OK, that is fine. BOSSIE: When you put it back on the streets, they create violence, they create distractions. Look, if it was me, if I was Ron DeSantis, I would be firing this woman Brenda Snipes in one of my first actions on the job, because no one in Florida, no matter what side you are on, can have confidence in this -- INGRAHAM: Why did Rick Scott let her stand? BOSSIE: I think that is a question for a different day. I think the new governor coming in with a clean slate can make moves. I hope he does. He needs to take very seriously what steps he needs to take to make sure Florida vote in 2020 is clean. INGRAHAM: If the states can't get this done, there should be a voting rights act investigation undertaken by the Justice Department. BOSSIE: May be Mueller can take this over. Maybe if he is really looking for something to do, and he wants to find voter suppression issues, maybe Mueller -- INGRAHAM: Dan Bongino, can you imagine what they will say when Matthew Whitaker comes in and totally up and lowered out, they'll really have a conspiracy going. (Inaudible) All right, guy's thanks so much and coming up, how will House Republicans, what Dave and I were just talking about resist Democrats who are determined to lob subpoenas at the President? Fresh up their leadership elections today, current house majority leader Kevin McCarthy and with Steve Scalise will explain. INGRAHAM: One of the lessons to be learned from the midterms was that the failure of RNC and GOP party leaders to highlight their races that really matter. Well, California is a prime example where even a week later, the GOP is still losing races they should've won. Republicans now have the least representation in that state since the civil war. It's a heartbreak. Here to react our two Republican leaders in the house, who are reelected today to their positions for the 116th Congress today and house majority leader Whip Steve Scalise whose book, I love it, I am holding it back and again, "One gunman, countless heroes, and the fight for my life," just hit the shelves yesterday. I love the book. Congressman, thank you so much for being here. We have to talk about the midterm results first. Congressman McCarthy, I want to talk to you about this California deal, because I've been talking to a couple of committee people in California and they are enraged, because they felt like, they were outspent in that state. They were outmaneuvered and there was no reason at least maybe five of those seats should flip Democrat. What insight can you give us? KEVIN MCCARTHY, HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER: Well, a couple of things happened in California. First of all they created this top two system. So here we are in the top two, it pushes out Republicans. INGRAHAM: Nobody understands what that means. MCCARTHY: Top two in the primary. Whoever gets the top two numbers goes on to the general election? Our Senate race, we didn't have a Republican. We are now finding when we had our Senate race, there was no Republican. (CROSSTALK) This is what causes the problem, because you are not getting a quality head. So, we didn't have a strong governor candidate who can help carry through. We had seven seats in the congressional that Republicans currently hold that Hillary carried, and we had Michael Bloomberg come over the top of it. $5 million. They spent 150 million more dollars than we had in this process. Now we went out with the Vice President Mike Pence and we raise more money than we ever had before, but when you can write a $5 million check and you focus on Stephen Knight, or if you go into -- look at Mimi Walters. She was ahead by 6,000 votes on Election Day winning and when then provisional ballots come forward and all of a sudden we are losing -- INGRAHAM: Is there transparency in looking at these provisional ballots in California? MCCARTHY: Do you know, what is the difference between California and Florida? We don't have a Republican governor? INGRAHAM: What is the oversight? MCCARTHY: Very, very difficult. INGRAHAM: Antifraud? MCCARTHY: We are finding others. If they are registered to vote in the process? Is the election law going through, we are analyzing all of them now? But we were ahead, we lost Jeff Denham, we are behind in Mimi Walters. Kim were challenged, David Valideo, and you look at Dana Rohrabacher. Here are seats that are fundamentally different on Election Day -- INGRAHAM: We have to learn that one fast, because that is a big one. Congressman Scalise, I want to also talk about what's going on the Democrat side before we talk about what might happen going forward the Republicans. There is a lot of push back against Nancy Pelosi becoming the next speaker. You all can vote in these speakers' races, right. It is for everyone to vote. Would you support Nancy Pelosi? Will you announce her as speaker? REP STEVE SCALISE, (R) HOUSE MAJORITY WHIP: I think they deserve Nancy Pelosi as speaker, but I sure don't want to see it. I went through two and a half years of Nancy Pelosi as speaker when I came in not long after Kevin and she was bigger and you saw what she did to the country. They rammed through Obamacare with the famous, you have to pass the bill to find out what's in it. They did cap and trade in the house -- INGRAHAM: But there are more radical than she could be. That person could be worst. SCALISE: You saw the left. Cortes from New York, was actually protesting in Nancy Pelosi's office, because she does not think Nancy Pelosi is liberal enough. Imagine that. So that is how far left of center their party has moved. If they govern that way, Laura, that is not how they campaign. All those districts they flip seats from Republicans to Democrats, those candidates didn't say they were going to be more liberal than Nancy Pelosi. In fact, many of them said they are going to be pro- life, pro-gun, anti-Pelosi. Their very first vote in January will determine whether or not they keep or break that promise. INGRAHAM: You think, she will get the speakership? We got a whole list of people saying she should not run. They don't want her to run. MCCARTHY: They will fold because they came from the minority to the majority. They won with women votes. They are going to remove the woman speaker for a man? Think of this. If they go back to the same old -- INGRAHAM: Subpoenas are going to be applying. MCCARTHY: But this is the old leadership. The average age in the process, mostly but this is the same leadership they've had before. Nancy, Steny Hoyer and Clyburn. INGRAHAM: It screams youth. What about you guys. Let's talk about what's in store versus you versus Jim Jordan. The President wants Jordan, he tweeted out, he is interested in Jim Jordan going to the house judiciary to be a help for him on the judiciary. MCCARTHY: The President and I almost talk every single day. He just called me tonight. We just had our election. Jim Jordan and I come in together. I think we are more united than we've ever been. Jim is on oversight. Jim also serves on judiciary, so he is there to make those fights. I think as we move forward, we'll do our steering committee and people can run for the ranking member slots for those lots are open. The conference will decide. INGRAHAM: How would you do with these subpoenas? They are dealing with everything to the naming of the post office building, the emoluments clause and who knows? SCALISE: The Kavanaugh hearing showed that the country doesn't want that kind of obstruction. President Trump has worked really hard to get this economy back on track. And we worked very close with the president and he is talked to a lot of us about the things that we wanted to do to keep the economy going. If they want to focus on turning back the economic growth, try to raise taxes, they are not going to have that happen. If they want to try to just sit there and obstruct and block everything that the president wants to do and go down the impeachment road, that's, again -- those members that flipped seats from Republican to Democrat campaigned says would do opposite of that. So if they do, they are going to pay a dear price. And ultimately that's one of the ways we get the majority back in two years. INGRAHAM: Congress McCarthy, a lot of concern about the caravan that was supposed to never get here, it was a month away, or don't worry, it's not an emergency. A lot of people in the caravan are in San Ysidro tonight. MCCARTHY: They're on the wall. INGRAHAM: They're on the wall. They are climbing over the fence. It's not a wall, but they're climbing over the fence on top. MCCARTHY: In California, we built the wall. That's part of the funding added. INGRAHAM: Part of it. MCCARTHY: Part of it, we have to finish it. INGRAHAM: Are they passing ballots to them? Here pass it to him and then pass it on. MCCARTHY: They read the provision. INGRAHAM: But what about the lame duck? What's going to happen in the lame duck. A lot of people are worrying that it's either going to be a bad amnesty deal, a ram through of amnesty, not going to get funding for the wall, the president needs that funding. MCCARTHY: On the House side, we feel very good about this. We have more than 5 billion. That's in addition to the billions we've already sent. The Senate has already been the challenge. We are working with the president and the Senate because we are still in the majority until January. And the American public wants their borders secured. So that's why we are moving forward. We will be coming back in after thanksgiving as well. We have seven of the bills to get finished and one of them happens to be dealing with this as well. I think we'll get it done. SCALISE: We need to fully fund the wall. And we've been working with President Trump to do this. INGRAHAM: But $5 billion doesn't get -- MCCARTHY: But it is a bill to build the wall. SCALISE: Ultimately let's have this fight in the next few weeks. MCCARTHY: Let's plug the book. INGRAHAM: "Back in the Game." First of all, you look great. You are doing great. You're an inspiration to so many people, how you dealt with hardship. We all deal with hardship in our life. You dealt with really tough stuff over the last year. And I just want to tell you, just for me and watching you, I get teared up because you are incredible. And this book is important for people to read and understand, much better anything that McCarthy has written. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: That's that dry policy stuff. This is personal inspiration, but also why you can never give up. Your faith has been so important for you. SCALISE: Laura, faith was so important to me. One of the reasons I wanted to write this book is to feature all the people that helped me get back in the game. And they were real heroes, there were real miracles that happened. And my wife Jennifer and I went through them. We call them the little miracles, just one thing after the other that happened on that ballfield and afterwards that you can't explain any way except that they were true miracles from God. And then the heroes, from David Bailey and Crystal Griner who risked their lives, got shot. In the book, we go into detail about that shoot-out. INGRAHAM: And stuff that never had been revealed before. SCALISE: They almost ran out of ammo. David was almost hit fatally. All of it is in the book. It's going to be something that everybody can get something out of about. A happy ending. MCCARTHY: The day of the shooting, he won't remember this -- INGRAHAM: We're going to go to black here in a second. MCCARTHY: But one thing I will tell you, we were there that day waiting for Jennifer. He's lucky he's alive. INGRAHAM: We thought we lost you a number of times. Thank you so much. "Back in the Game." The power of prayer, that's what I take away from it. Raymond Arroyo has answers for us in "Seen and Unseen," next. INGRAHAM: It's time for are "Seen and Unseen" segment where we expose some of the big cultural stories of the day. Getting banned from the happiest place on earth? Michelle Obama's subtle Trump book tour slice, and the lawyer to the porn stars booked for hitting a woman. Joining us now is Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" stories. Raymond, a New York man now has been permanently banned? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Banned. INGRAHAM: From your favorite vacation destination. ARROYO: From Disney. Dion Cini is his name. He is a recidivist Trump supporter, Laura. He's gone about parks carrying these posters that he, or banners, that he's displayed all over the parks. This is a guy who on Broadway, went to a Broadway show, "Frozen," rolled out a Trump banner. They had to pull it away from him. Then he goes to the Disney park, puts it in front of the train station. They warned him, because they have a policy, no flags or banners or signs that incite a crowd. He tested it again this week. He went on Splash Mountain, held a banner above his head as he went down the falls. You see him there. And they escorted him off the property, banned him from ever returning. He says it's because of the content of the sign. The truth of the matter is they do have this standing policy. My advice? Where a wear a MAGA hat. Keep your politics in the political realm, keep entertainment and fun where it belongs. Now, some people have problems with this, Laura, like Michelle Obama, who has embarked on a 13-city book tour to promote her new memoir. Her first stop was in Chicago last night where she appeared at a glittery interview with Oprah. But between the old stories and inspirational talk were some pointed critique at the president. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHELLE OBAMA, FORMER FIRST LADY: People ask do I missed the White House. And it's like, no, I don't miss the house because we took what was important in that house with us. And it is with us. It's family, it's the values, it's the friendship. So the house is beautiful, and it's historic, and it was an honor to live there. But the people in it make it what it is. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: People make it what it is. They took that magic, they took the glamour with them when they left the White House. INGRAHAM: I'd say so. ARROYO: It's a shell now, just a sad shell. Then there was the meditation on going low. Remember, when they go high, we go low. Watch this. See who's going low here. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHELLE OBAMA, FORMER FIRST LADY: -- get results when you go low. You just get your attitude out. When you are in the White House and you have that platform and that responsibility where every word matters, you are often thinking, at least Barack and I often thought is what we are about to say going to help, is it going to move the needle forward, or is it just going to make us feel vindicated in the moment? (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: A gentle hit on Trump without leaving a bruise. Michelle is really good at this. She kind of messages this interestingly. And then we found this montage, Laura. It was very interesting. There was a line she kept using in all these interviews to promote the book. You know. You know. INGRAHAM: You know. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHELLE OBAMA, FORMER FIRST LADY: You know. You know. You know. You know. You know. You know. You know. You know. As you know. You know. You know. You know? You know, you're writing your book. You know, Barack is, you know. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Fifty-five times she used you know in that interview. INGRAHAM: She says it's like a lot, too. ARROYO: Maybe she should change the name of the book from "Becoming" to "well, you know." INGRAHAM: Maybe you know what it's like. (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: You know, Michelle Obama. INGRAHAM: That's a gorgeous book cover. ARROYO: We've got to move to Avenatti. Breaking news tonight. He has been arrested. Of course, Stormy Daniels' lawyer and Democratic presidential aspirant Michael Avenatti arrested by the LAPD tonight on allegations of domestic violence. The victim's face is reportedly bruised and swollen. At the time of the arrest, Avenatti said she hit me first, this is bull -- fill in the blank. That is one substance I think Avenatti probably has a lot of familiarity with. Your reaction to Avenatti's arrest here on these charges. INGRAHAM: Here's what I'm going to say. Just because he takes conclusions with no evidence, I am not going to do that. I am a former defense lawyer and I don't like the idea of convicting someone on an allegation. I don't know enough about this case. ARROYO: So don't believe the victim without proving it? INGRAHAM: I want to see some more -- I don't see anything. TMZ has a thing. ARROYO: It is interesting. The man that they raised up, he was going to take Kavanaugh down, Trump down. INGRAHAM: I am still waiting for the two witnesses to spiking the punch bowl. Remember, he said I have two witnesses. They're going to come out any day now. ARROYO: And there's a criminal referral, by the way, against him. INGRAHAM: The guy is, come on. Tucker had the best description of him. That having been said -- ARROYO: You're not convicting him yet. INGRAHAM: I don't convict people. Remember, I stood with Al Franken. Just because he had that weird picture, I didn't like that. ARROYO: The merciful Laura Ingraham, you know. You know? You know. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: His unpopularity might have cost the GOP a Senate seat in Arizona, and now Jeff Flake trying to further harm his party before he leaves. Ken Starr and Andy McCarthy are here to sound off next. Thanks, Raymond. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JEFF FLAKE, (R) ARIZONA: With the firing of the attorney general and, in my view, the improper installation of an acting attorney general, the president now has this investigation in his sights. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: With that utterance, outgoing Senator Jeff Flake has perfectly summed up his career in the upper chamber. Despite zero evidence of any threat to the Mueller investigation, Flake is now saying he'll block the confirmation of highly qualified conservative judges across the land. Here now to react is former Whitewater independent counsel and judge himself, Ken Starr, and former assistant U.S. attorney and FOX News contributor Andy McCarthy. Andy, you think this bill that Flake and his newfound Democratic buddies are offering is unconstitutional. Explain. ANDY MCCARTHY, FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY: Well, all of the authority in the Constitution in Article Two, all the executive authority is vested in the president. In our system, prosecution is an executive power. You cannot pass a Constitutional bill that essentially takes away the president's executive power and the president's power to lead the executive branch and reposes it in someone else, whether it's the prosecutor himself or some other branch of government to oversee him. So the reason people oppose this, Laura, as a legal matter is that it's unconstitutional. But as a factual matter, as you suggest, this is pure grandstanding and theatrics under circumstances where there is no reason to believe there is any threat to the Mueller investigation. INGRAHAM: And Judge Starr, think about the phenomenal, in many cases, young lawyers who have been waiting for confirmation. Appellate courts judges, district court judges, military court, you just want to hold them all up? KEN STARR, FORMER INDEPENDENT COUNSEL, WHITEWATER: It's terrible. It really is. And I agree fully with Andy. There's no foreseeable threat. There just isn't. I understand that -- wait, who is this Mr. Whitaker guy and what did he say when he was a CNN commentator? But he's now the attorney general of the United States, so it's regular order. And as you well know, Laura, there are processes within the Justice Department, so he will be consulting on these kinds of actions that could affect the investigation. So he's not a solo performer. INGRAHAM: I want to talk about what's going on with the Whitaker appointment, and you have some conservative lawyers, including Kellyanne Conway's husband and others who are saying this is completely unconstitutional and illegal to nominate or to appoint his as acting attorney general because he has not been confirmed by the Senate. I want to play a montage of some of them. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whitaker is effectively a constitutional nobody. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think Matthew Whitaker's appointment was unconstitutional, illegal, and just plain wrong. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just don't see any legal opinion that I can take seriously that counters this. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Judge? STARR: The Office of Legal Counsel is this set of constitutional lawyers. They are paid to look at these kinds of issues, and they concluded in a very careful memorandum. It's 30 pages long. People may disagree with it. I think it happens to be correct. This isn't whether it was wise to appoint Mr. Whitaker, it is was it lawful. I think it clearly was under a specific statute passed by Congress that permits the president to do exactly what he did. INGRAHAM: Andy, I want to go to you on this. This is on Shep's show earlier today, Judge Napolitano was saying about this very issue and the OLC's ruling on the Whitaker appointments. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO, FOX NEWS SENIOR JUDICIAL ANALYST: I was very disappointed to see the lawyers working for Matthew Whitaker go back to 1866 and look for a precedent there to decide whether or not he was lawfully appointed. I don't care what happened in 1866 because the Congress changed the law in the 1960s and said whoever runs the Justice Department has to be nominated by the president and confirmed by the Senate because we put too much power in their hands. That kind of power can't go to a political hack. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, well, political hack, he was a federal U.S. attorney in Iowa. But your thoughts and what Judge Napolitano said there. MCCARTHY: I was disappointed to hear my friend Judge Napolitano suggest -- well, I was disappointed to see that he doesn't really understand how the Office of Legal Counsel works. But what they do is things like go back to the precedents that go back to the founding of the country and to the constitution, particularly, Laura, when it's a constitutional claim being made. I understand Judge Napolitano's point that the statute is from 1998, but the statute is not what people are complaining about. It's whether this application of the statute is constitutional or not. And one of the ways that constitutional lawyers go about making that analysis is to go back to the history of the United States and see where the situation has come up again and how it's been handled. INGRAHAM: Judge, do you think that Mueller is going to wrap this thing up, the Special Counsel, by the end of the year? STARR: I think so. The indications are that we are moving along, but apparently there may be a couple of more indictments on the way. But I think we are ready for there to be a wrap. INGRAHAM: Like Jerome Corsi and Roger Stone? Perjury, this process -- STARR: I will say this. Let's don't lie of the prosecutors. Bad idea. INGRAHAM: Not a good idea. Guys, thank you so much. And coming up, the media told you the caravan was no threat, 1,000 miles away, no worries. It's just a midterm scare tactic. Guess what? It's here. New details with the former head of ICE next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC CO-HOST: There is no doubt that what the president was considering great strategy to bring out his base, this stupid caravan conspiracy theory. CHUCK HAGEL, FORMER DEFENSE SECRETARY: I think it's obvious and it's very clear that it was a political stunt that he pulled. Using our troops as political pawns for his political interests is just wrong. REP. RUBEN GALLEGO, (D) ARIZONA: Why the president stops talking about the caravan? Because the election is over. This is a stunt. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: We aren't stopping talking about anything. The caravan is not a stunt. It's already actually in our own backyard. A DHS official telling FOX News that a breakaway group of a few hundred migrants from the caravan is at the border of Tijuana and San Diego. You can see dozens of migrants right here physically scaling the border wall. It's like an Olympic sport. Former acting ICE director Tom Homan joins me with reaction. Tom, we were mocked for raising this issue, a massive caravan, thousands of people. In this case there are 400, 500. They are here. TOM HOMAN, FORMER ACTING ICE DIRECTOR: Game one. Let's go. I think the president has prepared us well. Border Patrol has additional resources. The ports of entry have additional resources, additional asylum officers. They will come in under our rules. They will come in, they'll be metered in, get their interview, they get their due process. And hopefully we detained them long enough to see a judge. A vast majority, the latest numbers I saw, 91 percent will lose their case because it's fraud, it's frivolous claims. Put them on a plane, send them home. As soon as that happens, we send a strong message and you see these caravans start dwindling. INGRAHAM: Now, the president, I think in my interview and other interviews, has talked about tents. It was in my interview I did with him, we're going to have a lot of tents. To your knowledge, are there tents set up to hold these people? HOMAN: I know we did solid structures in the past, back in 2014. I don't know what tents are available now, but look, tents, that's not a bad deal considering where they are supposed to be coming from. I saw a video clip earlier today on FOX News and I saw one of the caravans carrying the Honduran flag, march with a Honduran flag. I never saw a group of political refugees carrying the flag of their oppressors. INGRAHAM: I think of that poor Asia Bibi, that woman in Pakistan, the Christian woman, no one is giving her asylum. That woman is going to be killed in Pakistan. She is a Christian. She should be allowed to come into this country. I want this administration to allow her asylum. That's a clear case of asylum. Asia Bibi should be allowed to come into this country. HOMAN: Nine out of 10 lose their case. So that's a clear example. They here to take advantage of a threshold in the system, they're coming here to America. If they're escaping fear and persecution, they could have gotten asylum in Mexico. INGRAHAM: The president likes what you say on this issue. You are no nonsense, you see that repercussions to unlawful behavior are gaming the system. There are repercussions, and the law is uniformly enforced. You have less illegal immigration, just the way it works. So your name has been floated as a possible replacement for Nielsen should he she leave her post at DHS. Are you interested? HOMAN: I can't speculate what the president is going to do. I can tell you this. The greatest assignment of my life was being the acting director of ICE for a year-and-a-half because I came up through the ranks. I've done the job. INGRAHAM: You've done it. HOMAN: The 20,000 men and women that worked for me? I didn't ask them to do anything I haven't done. And in one of the greatest honors of my life has been to work for this president, and I've worked for six of them, no one has done more for border security and immigration enforcement and law enforcement and the rule of law than President Trump. Thank God he's the guy sitting in the chair right now, especially in these times. INGRAHAM: They got to get the Republicans to fund that wall and fund everything else we need to do, change the asylum laws, correct? They've got to do this. HOMAN: If the Republicans would've joined with this president in the beginning, we wouldn't have the caravan today. INGRAHAM: This is what the president said today about Nielsen. He said, "I'm looking at things. I haven't made a decision yet. I'll be making a decision on Homeland shortly. I have not made decisions. I will be making changes on various things." But your name is in the mix. HOMAN: We've got a secretary. I support her. I know she's working really hard. I'm certainly honored that my name is being mentioned. Again, I salute this president because he's doing the right thing for this country. He's keeping his promises. And I can tell you the morale at ICE, the morale at Border Patrol has never been higher than it has been under -- INGRAHAM: I have a feeling it'll be pretty high if you are named as well. Tom, thanks so much, really, appreciate it. The last bite up next. INGRAHAM: All right, it's time for the last bite. Today, Secretary of Defense James Mattis visited our southern border, and he had this inspirational message for the U.S. troops protecting America from that massive migrant caravan. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMES MATTIS, DEFENSE SECRETARY: Loyalty only matters when there's 100 reasons not to be loyal. Do you know what I mean? I mean when it is raining and you are cold, it is when you are in a position where people are showing a lack of respect for each other elsewhere, and you and your team are holding strong, you know. Nothing can change it. Nothing can change it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What a stud. And "The New York Times" there would say, oh, they shouldn't be there. The - he is just great. I love that moment. Now, we thank all of our troops fighting to protect our freedom everyday. Wherever you are, at home, abroad. And that's all the time we have. Shannon Bream and the fantastic "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team, take it from here. Shannon? Load-Date: November 15, 2018 End of Document Latest Developments in Florida Election Chaos; CNN Sues White House for Revoking Jim Acosta's Pass; Interview with Senator Marco Rubio of Florida; Senator Marco Rubio Gives His Take on the Consequences of Incompetent Election Officials in Florida and the Chaos that It Brought to the System; Former Hillary Clinton's Pollster, Mark Penn, Said in a "Wall Street Journal" Piece that Hillary Will Run Again in 2020 Presidential Elections; According to Reports, President Trump's Legal Team is Almost Finished with the Written Answers to Bob Mueller's Question with Respect to the Russia Probe Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 13, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7504 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Catherine Herridge, Gregg Jarrett, Jesse Watters, Jessica Tarlov, Monica Crowley Guests: Pam Bondi, Marco Rubio Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Area 51, Roswell, New Mexico, check it out. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST, TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT: That's right. HANNITY: All right. Thank you. Great show as always. And welcome to "Hannity". All right. Tonight, the chaos continues in south Florida. The Broward County supervisor of elections may soon be out or worse. Tonight, a criminal investigation is now underway as Republicans Ron DeSantis, Rick Scott now look poised for victory. We will bring you the very latest updates from Florida. Plus, get this. Jim Acosta, fake news CNN, they are now suing the president in a complaint that is chock-full of abject lies and distortions. Acosta and his employer CNN, they're actually claiming that the White House is stripping his constitutional rights by not allowing him inside 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Jim must really be crying himself to sleep at night. All right. So, coming up, we will break down the bogus lawsuit. We'll show you just how Jim's hyper-partisan unprofessional behavior is unbefitting to the industry that he claims to be serving. And also tonight, we will preview a looming feud inside the Democratic Party between the far left and the far, far, far extreme radical left. And speaking of which, believe it or not, Hillary Clinton clearly may be gearing up for yet another presidential run. Also tonight, Monica Lewinsky speaking out about her infamous affair in the Oval Office. She wants an apology and I think she deserves one. We'll show you the tape. Also stay tuned, we got a lot to get to. Time for our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Just a lot of ground to cover tonight. We will get it all in. And we begin in Florida where the recount is moving forward and barring any kind of disaster, Ron DeSantis and Rick Scott will rightfully be Florida's next governor and senator. Now, with that said, what we have seen out of liberal Broward and Palm Beach Counties has been an absolute national disgrace. Over at Broward County, election supervisor Brenda Snipes magically dislocated over 75,000 new ballots days and days after the election. Now, earlier this week, a box containing provisional ballots was actually found by an employee at a rental car company left behind an airport in Fort Lauderdale. Multiple state election laws, we now know they were broken, disregarded altogether. A court has ruled that Snipes acted inappropriately and now, the Attorney General Pam Bondi and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement are investigating claims of criminal voter fraud. Now, we have embattled election supervisor Brenda Snipes who might be out of a job soon. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRENDA SNIPES, BROWARD COUNTY SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS: It is time to move on, and let someone else, maybe one of you guys out there, handle the election business. But I think I have served the purpose that I came here for, which was to provide a credible product for our voters. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Tonight, losing her high-paying job may be the least of her worries. The Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi and Florida Senator Marco Rubio will be with us tonight. But, first, Jim Acosta desperately trying to get back into the White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Last week, his White House pass was revoked after what was clearly unprofessional conduct, an incident where he just refused to give up a shared microphone. Shared, keyword. Made contact with a White House intern who tried to take the microphone back. And, literally, he wanted to debate the president of the United States after accusing him pretty much of being a racist. Well, that's sort of like par for the course at fake news CNN. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM ACOSTA, CNN REPORTER: If I may ask you a question -- DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: That's enough, that's enough. ACOSTA: I just wanted to ask another question -- TRUMP: That's enough. ACOSTA: Pardon me, ma'am -- (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: That's enough. Put down the microphone. ACOSTA: Mr. President, are you worried about indictments coming down in this investigation? REPORTER: Mr. President -- TRUMP: I tell you what? CNN should be ashamed of itself having you working for them. You are a rude, terrible person. You should not be working for CNN. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, while Acosta's pass was revoked for his unprofessional conduct, no one else at CNN, by the way, is affected. Nobody. And, by the way, the president answered his question. How many times does the president of the United States need to tell someone, a fame-seeking reporter, that's enough, that's enough? Now, CNN still has access to the White House. Acosta is still free to spew his anti-Trump hatred anywhere he wants, just not inside the walls of the White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. But now, Acosta and CNN are suing President Trump and other officials in the administration. Now, the lawsuit laughably claims that Acosta's constitutional rights have been violated. The complaint also goes on to list the following lies as facts: they say that Acosta merely asked a question during the press conference. Well, you just saw it. That's a lie. He tried to grandstand, he gave his commentary, and he wanted to debate the president. Next, the suit suggests that Acosta didn't put his hand on the White House intern. Well, you can see right there on your screen, well, the intern tried to get the microphone back, and there was contact. I'm not saying anything bad happened with that. But the complaint also claims that Acosta has been a journalist -- this is my favorite -- for more than two decades and is widely respected for his diligence and independence. That's the biggest lie. Jim Acosta is a lot of things. He is not a fair, balanced, independent journalist. Now, he is a far left, grandstanding, sycophant, left-winger, capitalizing on his blatant anti-Trump bias. And his conduct inside the White House has been frankly, a lot of times anything but professional. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ACOSTA: I'm not sure this press conference was ever on the rails, as you heard numerous times during this news conference, the president was not in touch with reality. The people who work at this White House all the way up to the president evidently believe that journalists are the enemy of the people, literally, the enemy of the people. I'll say that the press is not the enemy of the people, and, you know, I think maybe we should make some bumper stickers, make some buttons. A wall can be different than border security, sir. SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: No, actually -- ACOSTA: It could mean agents, more fencing, it doesn't necessarily mean a physical wall -- SANDERS: That is part of the negotiation we expect Congress to have -- ACOSTA: Democrats are saying they may not be in favor of this kind of deal. They say thanks, but no thanks for the wall. SANDERS: Jim, I'm not negotiating with you. I'm going to let Congress take care of that. ACOSTA: What we are witnessing is erosion of our freedoms in terms of covering the president of the United States. I think there are moments where this president is sensitive to criticism and he lashes out. The last three news conferences, Wolf, all of the questions from the American news media have been handled by conservative press and I think, Wolf, there is no other way to describe it but the fix is in. The Statue of Liberty has always been a bastion of hope for people of the world -- (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jim, do you believe -- Jim, I appreciate your speech -- ACOSTA: I think we saw the president's true colors today and I'm not sure they were red, white, and blue. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Not sure if they are red, white, and blue? True colors. That would be opinion. I thought he was supposed to be a journalist. Now, Jim Acosta's coverage of President Obama was actually a little different. Take for example this glowing coverage of Obama at his 2012 inauguration. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ACOSTA: Obviously this is the moment that everybody is waiting for. On inauguration day, the president on the first lady stepped out of their limo and walked down Pennsylvania Avenue, you know? I feel like I should pinch myself right now, Wolf. I can't believe I have this vantage point of history in the making. WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: You are literally what, about 15, 20 feet away from the president? ACOSTA: I'm probably a good, I would say, 50 feet away from the president right now, Wolf. We're very, very close. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: It sounds like he had a thrill of his life, like Chris Matthews. Anyway, Acosta's overwhelming bias, it's not shocking. In fact, he's pretty much toeing the company line at fake news CNN. For eight long years, they just worshiped Barack Obama, they love the Clintons. Remember, Clinton news network? Now, CNN claims to be facts first but in reality, they put their hatred for Donald Trump before anything else. Every second, every minute, every hour, every day, pretty much Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is this president trying to impersonate Hugo Chavez? Recep Tayyip Erdogan? Vladimir Putin? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What a great case officer Vladimir Putin is. He knows how to handle an asset and that's what he's doing with the president. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When do we see almost a shadow government come out and say we cannot side with the government? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why is President Trump showing sympathy for white nationalists and other hate groups? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What does that tell you in an America that one -- that in one generation called you (EXPLETIVE DELETED)? What does that tell you, Don? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can truly say that his words have absolutely emboldened white supremacists. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has given oxygen to racists. He is clearly trying to ignite a civil war in this country. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is a sign out there that's been hung out in the White House or outside the White House saying, if you're not white, you're not especially welcome. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The president gets two scoops and everyone else around the table gets one, and no word if there were sprinkles. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If you think you have had an ear full of Donald Trump, check out what is in the air of the beagle in Britain named chief. Brace yourself. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If I took a dump on his desk, you would defend that. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sixteen tweets today to start the New Year, some of them deeply disturbing. These are the messages from a person who is not well, from a leader who is not fit for office. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's president snowflake, OK? Everything -- oh, they are mean to me, that they don't like me, I just don't understand it, it's not fair. This was a whitelash. This was a whitelash against a changing country. It was a whitelash against a black president, in part. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That's a lot of opinion by people that claim that they're journalists, left-wing opinion. Now, is anyone really surprised that the network that you just saw had their chief White House correspondent kicked out for unprofessional conduct? Now, the White House is classifying the Acosta suit as, quote, "more grandstanding" from CNN. Now, a "Law and Crime" website, it's a great website, op-ed, trashed the complaint, and renowned journalist Bob Woodward rebuked the lawsuit and called out the media becoming emotionally unhinged over Trump. The great one, Mark Levin, he just ripped and slammed the suit over the so- called constitutional issue, which is a farce. Take a listen. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) MARK LEVIN, "THE MARK LEVIN SHOW": You understand that there is nothing in the Constitution that compels the president to hold a presidential press conference, period? What, the court is going to order him to hold one? There's nothing in the Constitution that compels the president to call on anyone from CNN, let alone Jim Acosta. Period! And Acosta does not have a constitutional right to disrupt the press conference and CNN doesn't either. (END AUDIO CLIP) HANNITY: And as per usual, CNN is all bark, no facts. We'll keep you updated on this ridiculous lawsuit. Now, you might have noticed that fake news CNN, conspiracy TV MSNBC, other far left outlets, well, they now seem to be avoiding any post-midterm election coverage. It's not an accident. Democrats had a historically very poor performance in last Tuesday's election and that's why they don't want to talk about it. Now, Republicans, yes, they lost the House, but they made gains in the Senate, something that has only happened three times in 100 years of midterm elections. 1994, let's look at the tape. Bill Clinton's first midterm election, they got shellacked. They lost 52 House seats and eight Senate seats. It was even worse under Obama. He set a record. 2010, his first midterm, Democrats lost a whopping 63 House seats and six Senate seats. Now, the Democrats are in disarray. Serious battle brewing tonight on Capitol Hill between far left Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and even further left-wing Democrats like the socialist, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Now, the 29-year- old incoming congresswoman from New York actually joined a climate change protest -- get this --dash outside of Pelosi's office. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ (D-NY), U.S. REPRESENTATIVE-ELECT: It's not about a person, this is not about a personality, but it's to show whoever is speaker, and ideally, what we see, is that should Leader Pelosi become next speaker of the House, we need to tell her that we've got her back in showing and pursuing the most progressive energy agenda that this country has ever seen. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No moderates exist in today's modern Democratic Party. Now, this is the same incoming congresswoman who recently filmed her presidential aspirations on Instagram live while making macaroni and cheese, the same incoming congresswoman who campaigned on a message of massive tax increases and a government nanny state. And meanwhile, other incoming members of Congress have publicly -- they come out against Nancy Pelosi taking the gavel as speaker of the House. So, Pelosi is probably likely to become the next speaker. Many powerful Democrats are lining up behind her, including longtime Congressman Elijah Cummings. And now, Pelosi and her allies are pulling out one of the Democrats' favorite political tactics in order to ensure her speakership. This was an "Politico" today. But watch this, the gender card. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), MINORITY LEADER: It's very important that you cannot have the four leaders of the president, these five people, and not have the voice of women, especially since women were the majority of the voters, the workers on the campaign, and now part of the glorious victory. When I came to Congress, there were 12 Democratic women. I said, we have to change this. Now, we'll have close to 90. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, whether or not Nancy Pelosi becomes the speaker, let me be very clear and warn you once again that the Democratic agenda does not include making the lives of the American people better. Instead, what we now know, what they hid during the election is their plan to use their power in the House for revenge. And, by the way, they will do anything and everything in their power to bog down the administration with absurd investigations. And while House Democrats are plotting just revenge, they don't have any answer to President Trump in 2020. According to one former Hillary Clinton advisor, Hillary Clinton -- get this -- apparently, she seriously thinking about running again. We're going to have more on that, Jesse and Jessica will join us. But, you know, it's interesting to just watch all of this unfold in action here, because you know what? It's a good thing that the president campaigned hard and broke the trend that neither Obama nor Clinton could. Three new Senate seats, Republicans keep control of the Senate. And now, we have more Clinton news out there as well and their old baggage, 20 years after Monica Lewinsky became a household name, after then- President Bill Clinton engaged in sexual misconduct with the White House intern, Lewinsky speaking out about the Clinton affair and the horrible damage that it did do to her life. In a new documentary series for A&E, in an opinion piece in "Vanity Fair" about why she participated in the documentary, well, Lewinsky says that if she saw Hillary Clinton, she finds the strength -- she said, if I were to see Hillary Clinton in person, I know I would summon up whatever force I needed to again acknowledge to her sincerely how very sorry I am. By the way, good for her. By the way, I think that's extraordinarily brave, gracious, and frankly, honorable. Here's a clip from the documentary. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MONICA LEWINSKY: I just -- I felt terrible. I was scared and I just -- I was mortified and afraid of what this was going to do to my family, and, you know, I was in love with Bill at the time. So I just felt really responsible. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: In the op-ed, Lewinsky also said she was disappointed that Bill Clinton said he didn't owe her an apology when he spoke with NBC News back in June. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INTERVIEWER: But you didn't apologize to her, at least according to folks we talked to? There was never an apology? BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT: I have not talked to her. INTERVIEWER: Do you feel like you owe her an apology? CLINTON: No. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: A lot of other people to apologize to. Apparently, He's not up to the challenge. There is one standard of conduct for the Clintons and another for everyone else. Now, for years, the biggest Clinton apologists, they were members of Hollywood. Today, they are continuing to ramp up their vile, daily hatred against President Trump and his supporters. Last night, deranged anti-Trump actor Robert de Niro, well, he continued to spew violent rhetoric while speaking at a Friars Club event in New York City using profanity and to urge the overthrow of the government. Now, of course this type of sick behavior is nothing new. Advocating violence, using vulgar language is all part of a pattern from the Hollywood left. I think an awful lot about blowing up the White House. They have been melting down since the day Donald Trump was elected before our very eyes. Common sense Americans know better than to buy into the hate that they are spreading because that is exactly what it is. All right. We'll have a lot more on all of this throughout the hour. But first joining us, we go back to our top story, and that is the shenanigans, what's going on in Florida. Joining us now, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi. Pam, good to see you. Thank you for joining us. Let's talk a little bit now. PAM BONDI (R), FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Sure. You too, Sean. HANNITY: There is an investigation. What can you tell us about it? BONDI: Well, I, of course, will not go into any details about the criminal investigation but I felt very strongly in my independent authority as chief legal officer and law enforcement officer for the state of Florida that we had to get the Florida Department of Law Enforcement involved in this, do interviews. There have been so many allegations -- and right now, that's all they are. They are allegations. But I've had my prosecutors on the ground in Lauderdale. We have the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. And the Florida Department of Law Enforcement has also opened a tip hotline for folks to call. You can go on their website and get it, I can give it out. But if folks feel that they have seen evidence of fraud, call that in. We are clearly doing an investigation. We have made no conclusions. But this is about the integrity of our election process and wherever it leads, we want to be sure that voters know that our process is going to be fair and legal, Sean. HANNITY: We had a judge Friday say the Florida constitution was violated. Look, the canvassing board -- this is Florida law -- shall report all early voting and all tabulated vote by mail results to the Department of State within 30 minutes after the polls closed. That didn't happen. BONDI: Right. HANNITY: The canvassing board shall report with the exception of the provisional ballot results and update in the office every 45 minutes. It was supposed to have observers in there. That didn't happen as well. Sixty-five of the 67 Florida counties included the Panhandle, 37 of those counties, or 35 of them, they were ravaged after the hurricane. They all got the job done. BONDI: That's right. HANNITY: How is it that this keeps happening in Broward County? BONDI: Well, and that's what we're looking into, and that's what I can't go to in detail. But what you said was clearly laid out in a letter that I sent to the Florida department of law enforcement saying why we need to open a criminal investigation and that has now been done. There is an active criminal investigation. At the same time, Sean, you know there are countless, at least seven civil lawsuits filed by the DNC, by the ACLU, I believe, by the League of Women Voters, all these civil lawsuits. They are basically trying to as you know throw out deadlines so it would be the Wild, Wild West. I mean, without deadlines, how do you manage elections? And they also don't want to require signatures for provisional and vote by mail ballots. And let me make this very clear. Florida law -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Yes, go ahead. BONDI: Florida law expressly and unambiguously states that you must have signature verification. So, what they want to do, they want to change the law after the ballots have all been cast and go back retroactively and change our law, which is -- it's ridiculous. And Bill Nelson needs to take a deep breath and concede gracefully and walk away from this. HANNITY: Let me run down the list, if I may. BONDI: Sure. HANNITY: We know that Snipes just, you know, in the course of the selection, rejected mixed the rejected provisional ballots with several hundred valid votes. Well, that means it's corrupted. In August, the judge ruled that Snipes actually mishandled mail in absentee ballots. In 2017, a judge ruled that she illegally destroyed ballots. Some Broward County officials in 2016, poll results were reported before the polls were closed. It goes back to 2012. It's every year, Pam. BONDI: And, Sean, that's why I directed the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to open an investigation, not wait until this is over. They have opened an investigation at my direction and that is ongoing and active criminally. HANNITY: Right. BONDI: We have intervened in all the civil lawsuits that deal with the constitution. And I feel we are on firm constitutional ground as well. HANNITY: All right. Pam Bondi, the attorney general of Florida, thank you for updating us. We'll follow this criminal investigation closely. When we come back, Senator Marco Rubio, he was the first person to realize what was going on. We'll talk more about that. Later, reports tonight that Trump's legal team is finalizing their written answers to Mueller's questions. So, will this so-called witch hunt finally be coming to an end? Catherine Herridge, Gregg Jarrett, Monica Crowley, so much more, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. So, as a Florida recount is underway, Broward County has come into focus for its history of incompetence and controversy, especially under the leadership of election supervisor, there she is, Brenda Snipes. According to former DOJ official J. Christian Adams, Snipes' misdeeds include prematurely destroying ballots after the 2016 primary race, reporting more registered voters than citizens, doctoring reports about cleaning voter rolls and losing the manual on removing dead voters. Florida Senator Marco Rubio has been very vocal with his concerns about the election and all these era galaxies. He joins us right now. Senator, honestly, you were the first that really brought this to my attention, thank you. Fifty-seven thousand-vote lead, now dwindling down to 12,000. Now, they are going to have even more time. I'm concerned. You actually said -- you used the word "steal". Do you believe there's been an effort here, corruption here to steal an election? SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R), FLORIDA: Well, here's what I believe. I believe the law hasn't been followed from the beginning. You know, those early votes, the last time they were cast was the Sunday before election. By law, those were supposed to be downloaded and sent to the state by 7:30 p.m. on the night of the election. And then you have to process the absentee ballots, the mail ballots that have come in before that time. And then there's always some that come in Monday and Tuesday before the election. Those should be shortly thereafter. They didn't follow any of that. It is also additional votes added to every county, because people are voting for overseas, or because you haven't fully processed all the ones that you had by 7:30. But you're supposed to update that every 45 minutes. They didn't do that. We know for example that is part of the Broward County's vote count, it includes at least 19 people who were disqualified from voting by their own canvassing board, who they only took the ballots to after being forced, after being cut, and we don't know how many others that may have happened in. And now we know they didn't start the recount, the machinery count until this morning, after -- everybody else started Saturday or Sunday, Miami-Dade is almost done. So, it's irregularity after irregularity. And as far as stealing is concerned, let me just make this one point on that, that's what election lawyers -- the election lawyers are not coming to Florida to make sure every vote is counted. The reason why election lawyers get involved is to make sure as many votes as possible for their client is counted, and as many votes as possible for their opponent is disqualified. And when you have in office -- this in office, an election office this incompetent, and in this lawbreaking, it creates enormous opportunity for those sorts of arguments to be made. And suddenly the elections are decided by a judge or by lawyers, not by voters the way they are supposed to be. HANNITY: Well, we know, for example, that Snipes accidentally, she mixed in rejected provisional ballots with a number of valid votes. So, what that ultimately means, senator, is that the entire count is irreversibly corrupted, and you know we have all of these violations, 2012, 2014, 2016, 2017, now it's happening again. I, for the life of me, especially after all we went through, dimpled, pebbled, scattered, smothered, covered, and everything else in 2000, this keeps happening. This keeps happening. There are 57 counties, 65 of them got it right. And more importantly, 35 of those counties had been victimized by the hurricane, especially the Panhandle. They got it right. RUBIO: Yes. And so, you talked about a case, these provisional ballots are they were in an envelope. And what supposed to happen is you present those to the canvassing board to decide whether or not they are allowed to vote. She didn't do that. She opened it up. She basically decided they were going to count and she counted the votes. Then she got caught. She said, I submitted to the canvassing board and they found that 21 of them should not count. So, they said, all right let's find the 21. It's too late. Once you pull the ballot out of the envelope there's no way to match one with the other. So, that's just one example of the kinds of things that have been going on top of some of the history that you've outlined already over this sort of thing. And so, yes, it's deeply concerning that they are not following the law. They are not following the law and that's why we have election laws. I want every legal vote that was cast in a timely fashion to count. HANNITY: exactly. RUBIO: No one here is asking that now to happen. One more point and here's where we really got to keep an eye. What will happen after the machine recount is any race in the state that's within less than a quarter of one point which will be the Senate race and the agriculture race, there will have to a hand recount of the over votes and under votes, basically that somebody skip the ballot and not vote for this race. Now the canvassing board, if the accounting teams don't do it, have to sit down and determine did the voter intend to vote or not. And that's where lawyers get involved and start arguing that a mark here and cross here and circle over here was voter intent. Now the statute is pretty clear, but what that should be that doesn't mean anyone is going to follow it or that they are going to follow it. So, there's a lot to be concerned about and that's why it's so important that they had scrutiny and transparency and that we watch it every step of the way. HANNITY: Are you now confident that we have this -- we know the Attorney General Pam Bondi we just spoke with, are you confident with that this will be done right. We know, for example, the attorneys for Mayor Gillum and soon- to-be ex-Senator Nelson that they even wanted an illegal immigrant's vote, they objected. They wanted that counted. Then of course we're are finding ballots in the back of rental cars in Tampa from that county. So, are you confident when they do over/under votes, if there is a mark like 400, you know, so far away that they are going to try and argue that those are real votes and that they intended to vote when you miss the entire oval or whatever way you do it? RUBIO: Well, there is no doubt that the lawyers are going to argue that any kind of mark that favors their client they are going to argue with intent. The statute is pretty clear. The law says if you are going to, for example, circle names as opposed to filling in the bubble then you have to do that consistently throughout the ballot. I'm confident that lawyers are going to try to get everything counted. I don't know what the canvassing board is going to decide. HANNITY: yes. RUBIO: I don't know what's some federal judge is going to step in and decide. But that's the point. This level of incompetence gives you no confidence about anything with regards to that office and that's why we got to keep paying attention to what's happening there. HANNITY: Senator, you called everyone's attention to this, you are ahead of the curve. Thank you for standing up for legitimate, a legitimate, fair, legal process. The fact that so many laws were broken has to disturb every American. Thank you, sir, for being with us. All right. When we come back, multiple reports tonight that the president's legal team is almost finished with the written answers to Mueller's question. Catherine Herridge has a full report on that. And we get analysis, Gregg Jarrett and Monica Crowley. And then later tonight, Jesse and Jessica they're back. Who's world is it going to be as Hannity continues. HANNITY: All right. In other news tonight, there were reports that Trump's legal team has preparing -- has been preparing to hand over written answers to Mueller's team. Joining us now live from Washington on this and much more, Fox News chief intelligence correspondent, our own Catherine Herridge. That sounds like we might be getting to the end, Catherine. CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CHIEF INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: Well, that's right, Sean. And good evening. Two sources familiar with the discussions told Fox tonight that the written answers are being finalized and could be submitted to the special counsel Robert Mueller and his team as early as the end of this week. Contacted by Fox the president's lawyers had no immediate comment. We recently reported the president's legal team was preparing written responses about alleged coordination with Russia during the 2016 campaign and not obstruction of justice over the president's May 2017 firing of FBI director James Comey. The president's legal team consider those questions infringe on the president's constitutional power to hire and fire. Returning to Capitol Hill, earlier today Democrats also ramped up attacks on Matthew Whitaker, the acting attorney general. With the Senate judiciary committee's ranking Democrat Dianne Feinstein calling for emergency hearings with Whitaker and former Attorney General Jeff Sessions. The committee's Republican chairman who controls the Senate committee calendar and knows Whitaker from Iowa politics pointed to the ongoing Justice Department ethics reviews. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CHUCK GRASSLEY, (R) IOWA: So, I think that answers it. It doesn't matter what the Democrat think if he's going to that process that's going to answer that question. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Senator, do you have any concerns -- do you have concerns about the comments that Whitaker has made about the Mueller probe, and also-- (CROSSTALK) GRASSLEY: As long as he made -- as long as he made them as a private citizen, no. (END VIDEO CLIP) HERRIDGE: Sources familiar with the process tell Fox the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel plans to issue an opinion defending the Whitaker appointment and pushing back strongly against legal analysis that the appointment is unconstitutional. Sources said the opinion is expected in the coming days possibly as early as tomorrow, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Catherine Herridge with an important report tonight. Thank you. Joining us now with reaction, author of the number one New York Times bestseller "The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Framed Donald Trump" Fox News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett, along with Washington Times columnist, Monica Crowley is with us. You know, if it's now what written answers, that would suggest that the whole issue that we had discussed in the past about a potential subpoena of the president, would not be happening. The fact that it seems exclusively to focus on the original mandate, if you will, which is Russia collusion we have no evidence of collusion up to this point, none whatsoever, except for Hillary Clinton. And they didn't seem to go into that too deeply paying for the phony Russian dossier that was used to commit a fraud in a FISA court, and influence the American people before the 2016 election and then undermine the president post his victory. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: So, the lawyers for Donald Trump were very smart in refusing an in-person interview, because even if the president tells the truth, Mueller is so unscrupulous and on principled he would charge the president or accuse him of lying. So, the way to go is written answers. They're also limited the scope and no obstruction of justice. So, these answers to questions will only be about collusion and the answer is, quite frankly, which will be prepared by the lawyers to ensure the president isn't in legal jeopardy will be very brief. I don't know anything about collusion, I didn't talk to Russians about the election. And the next question, the answer will be the same answer as before. So, it's going to be very brief, it will not put the president in legal jeopardy. It is a win for the president and his team, and a loss as it should have been for the guy on your screen, Robert Mueller. HANNITY: Well, we know the team, the Andrew Weissmanns, the Jennie Rhee's, all the Democratic donors, Monica. It has never been to me just the appearance of the people he selected to me has been so over the top. I want specifically -- the only thing we're hearing now that Jerome Corsi is suggesting that he is been told that he might face charges of lying which would be in the vein, if I guess Michael Flynn, although the two FBI agents claimed he never lied. And maybe Papadopoulos. But if that's it, and Roger Stone is who they want to go after, I'm not sure what that would all be about but it doesn't seem connected to Donald Trump in any way. MONICA CROWLEY, COLUMNIST, WASHINGTON TIMES: Yes. So far what we now and what we've seen from the Mueller team are essentially process crimes, right. Nothing that goes to the core of the original assignment for Robert Mueller which was to investigate so-called Russia collusion which our friend Gregg Jarrett has called aptly the Russian hoax. They did their best during the campaign, Sean, to block Donald Trump from becoming president. Once he became president it moved to a different phase, which was trying to undermine and ultimately destroy his presidency with this investigation, which is essentially tantamount to the cover up. Now I'm gratified to see that the president has an excellent legal team including a new White House counsel, presumably they are doing everything they can to protect the president and to defend against any kind of legal exposure here by making sure that answers are properly done and in writing. HANNITY: You know, Gregg, we have spoken a lot on this program about the conflicts of interest with Rod Rosenstein. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: Number one he recommended the firing of Comey, number two, that would make him a witness, witness a. Number two, he signed the fourth and final FISA warrant, the third renewal application, and everybody is now selected moral outrage again from the media at the appointment of Matthew Whitaker to replace Jeff Sessions in the interim because he had said that he thought that the mandate was exceed by Robert Mueller, and a few other things. And people, actually on other networks -- lawyers are actually making the case that it's not a valid legal appointment. I called you, and you cited the Federal Vacancies Act. It is 5 USC 3345, I can read it or you can tell everybody, whatever you prefer. JARRETT: The president is authorized by Congress under the act you just cited to name somebody temporarily to head up an agency, somebody who is an official or an employee that has been there for 90 days, and so Whitaker satisfies that legal standard. It is perfectly valid. It is not unconstitutional. HANNITY: It says, the president is going to appoint -- according to that statute -- a person holding a Senate confirmed office or an officer, or employee of such an executive agency who served in a position in such agency for not less than 90 days, who meets the criteria, and these fake news attorneys, the fake attorneys almost, are wrong again. But the double standard is obvious. All right. Thank you both. We appreciate it. When we come back, here we go again. This is getting more insane. Hillary Clinton's former advisor says she is going to run again in 2020. Jesse versus Jessica, whose world? We will find out next, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. So, I'm hearing today that Hillary Clinton may be gearing up for a 2020 run. Former Clinton pollster Mark Penn and Andrew Stein writing in the Wall Street Journal said "Hillary will run again." And by the way, Michelle Obama said she thinks it's a good idea. Joining us now the co-host of the Five, this guy got two shows, not one shows, he's got two shows. And of course, Watters world, Jesse Watters. And Fox news contributor, she's back, she's out for blood tonight. She wants to win, Mr. Watters. JESSE WATTERS, FOX NEWS HOST: I'm nervous. HANNITY: I actually think if I'm Donald Trump, I'm saying run, Hillary, run, please. Because I don't think she's going to win. They ran a terrible campaign the last time, and now they are also saying, she's going to reinvent herself. She is going to be a radical Hillary Clinton again. It didn't work out for Bill Clinton in 1994, did it? WATTERS: I mean, if she runs, even Democrats, Sean, are going to chant lock her up, lock her up. They don't want her to do it again. What's her slogan going to be, still crooked? I mean, listen, she's got high negatives. HANNITY: Is still crooked Hillary. WATTERS: Yes, right. She's got high negative, her husband lost her fastball, his fastball. The donors are getting alligator arms, they don't want to throw money into a losing effort. She's got that losing standstill. She can't clear the field. The media is in love with Beto. I don't see where she's going here at all. HANNITY: You know, look, Jessica, if that's who you want -- tell me who you think. Your top three or four people that would be able to challenge Trump and do well. Who do you think? JESSICA TARLOV, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Interesting. My top three people were my dream ticket is Kamala Harris and Sherrod Brown as her V.P. candidate. WATTERS: That sounds like a nightmare. TARLOV: To you, because you will lose. HANNITY: Nightmare, I'm with Jesse. TARLOV: I think Sherrod Brown should definitely be in the next there, Al Franken probably would have been if he hadn't been pushed out of the Senate. Some of these new faces are exciting and I think there is an argument to be made for someone with executive experience, so looking at a big mayor like Eric Garcetti, Mitch Landrieu, for instance, some gubernatorial experience, may be John Hickenlooper. I know you guys are getting excited just hearing about all this. HANNITY: All right. TARLOV: And can I say something though about that op-ed? HANNITY: I'm hearing for Spartacus to run. WATTERS: Yes. What about Pocahontas and Spartacus? I like that ticket. TARLOV: I don't really need that this evening. Can I just say about the op-ed though. This coming from Mark Penn who lost the 2008 election for Hillary Clinton and a persona non grata in Clinton world. And Andy Stein who is the head of Democrats for trump. HANNITY: All right. Let me ask you this. TARLOV: It's unbelievable. HANNITY: I watch, I played this tape in my opening monologue of Monica Lewinsky she's doing this documentary. She gave this interview and she said, if I saw Hillary Clinton, I would find the strength to go up and apologize again to her. I was -- that is stunning grace. That was amazing. She was the intern here. And her life has been turned upside down. We saw her crying in this documentary. And Bill Clinton said when I asked, I don't need to apologize for her. How does between that and all the other Clinton women, Juanita, Kathleen, Paula, Democrats let him get away with it? Why? Why can't he just say, if you want an apology, you deserve one and I will give you one? TARLOV: I don't know, I think he absolutely should have apologized to her. I think that Hillary Clinton should have also said that it was a mistake and it was an abuse of power. That's fundamental to the Me Too movement. HANNITY: No. She said she never got it, Jesse. Never. WATTERS: No. She never got the apology. TARLOV: I'm saying that they should have apologized. WATTERS: No. She never got the apology. And let's remember, Hillary ran that war room where they fought those bimbo eruptions. And that's a so- called her bimbo eruptions-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And George Stephanopoulos-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: That's not even my language. HANNITY: -- of ABC News. WATTERS: They called her a floozy, psycho, a griefer, and a clinger. HANNITY: Yes. WATTERS: And so, the Me Too movement certainly boomerang on the Clinton's and they should own up to it. HANNITY: Jesse -- Jessica, last word? You can win it right here. Go ahead. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: My last word is maybe Donald Trump could also apologize to all of the women that he has taken advantage of. TARLOV: What do you mean Miss USA? He gave those women a lot of opportunities, Jessica, come on. TARLOV: I think you are now record. WATTERS: Come on. He cherishes women. TARLOV: Stop. Stop. Stop. He does not cherish women. HANNITY: Al right. I'm going to tell you what. It's been a while since we had you on. For the first time ever, a tie. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: And on the Me Too evening? WATTERS: A tie. HANNITY: It's a tie? TARLOV: A tie. HANNITY: A tie. TARLOV: OK. You -- nobody's world tonight. WATTERS: I want a recount. I want a recount. HANNITY: I want a recount. All right. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh, amazing take. This is amazing. What is really the motivating factor behind the recount in Florida? That's straight ahead as we continue. HANNITY: All right. So earlier today, Rush proposed an interesting theory today about the Florida recount. Take a listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: So, which party is it that will not accept the results of elections? Which party is it trying to undermine our faith in elections. And by the way, do you think what's going on in Florida is really all about these two races here, the governor race and the Senate? I mean, it is, but there's something much bigger at stake as well, and that's 2020. I think there is, I think if we stick at this long enough and we dig deep enough to find out what they are actually doing here, I think they are trying, the Democrats, are trying to set the stage for some kind of election law change or adjustment. That they think they're going to need in 2020. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Great points as usual. All right. That is all the time we have left this evening. We gave Rush the last word. We'll always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. Yes, we're different. And thank you for always being with us. And let not your heart be troubled because standing by in the swamp, Laura Ingraham. Load-Date: November 14, 2018 End of Document The New Members Of The House Of Representatives Might Be Too Much To Handle Based On Their Political Views And Beliefs As Progressives; Nancy Pelosi's Bid For Speaker Of House Is Facing Some Uphill Battle As Some Of her Party Members And Even The Freshmen Congress Will Not Vote For Her; CNN Sues Trump Administration For Revoking Press Credentials Of Chief White House Correspondent Jim Acosta; New Hampshire Independent Voters Have Negative Reaction To Possible Hillary Clinton Presidential Run In 2020; Florida Continues Vote Recount In Senate And Gubernatorial Races Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 13, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8051 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Howard Kurtz, Phil Keating Guests: Harmeet Dhillon, Nomiki Konst, Victor Davis Hanson, Jeffrey Lord, Frank Luntz, Mark Penn, Doug Schoen Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Great points as usual. All right, that is all the time we have left this evening. We give Rush the last word. We will always fair and balanced. We are not the destroy-Trump media. Yes, we are different. And thank you for always being with us. And let not your heart be troubled, because standing by in the swamp, Laura Ingraham. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: I have my boots on. I can always stand in the swamp, those big waiters, you know, when you are a kid, you go out fishing. Yes, it looks good. HANNITY: Tucker likes to go fly-fishing. Do you do that? INGRAHAM: Yes, I am doing that every weekend, Hannity, with three kids. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I tried it once with Dick Cheney, I'm like, this is way too much work. Where's the beer? INGRAHAM: No, no, no. It's too -- by the way, I can't believe Brenda Snipes didn't come on with you tonight. She was on another network. HANNITY: I'm shocked. You know, amazing, I mean -- INGRAHAM: You are very charming, so I don't know why she wouldn't have come on with you. HANNITY: She says she's never had any controversy at all. She didn't know how this happened. Just, you know, 75 to 80,000 ballots just magically appear. No problem. No laws obeyed. INGRAHAM: It's very unfair of you to even bring that uncomfortable topic up Hannity, but I loved your show tonight. HANNITY: Bad host. Bad host. INGRAHAM: All right, great show, Hannity. I will talk to you later. HANNITY: All right, have a good show. INGRAHAM: All right, I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from an extremely busy Washington tonight of course. Fresh-faced congressional members descended on the capital for orientation today. In moments, my "Angle" tells you why the Democrats should be wary of some of these new kids. Plus, what does a former CNN contributor think of the network's lawsuit against the White House? Jeffrey Lord is here to tell us. And an "Ingraham Angle" exclusive, after teasing a potential third run for the presidency, what do New Hampshire voters think about another Hillary Clinton candidacy? Frank Luntz with a can't miss focus group reaction later in the show. You do not want to miss this. It is hilarious. But first, the freshman insurrection, that's the focus of tonight's "Angle." Today was orientation day on Capitol Hill for new members of Congress. But for Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic leadership, the new class is turning out to be more than they bargained for. Now, checkout newly elected congresswoman Alexandria Cortez. I think she may find her transition from rock star activist to just another member of Congress a difficult one. Someone should tell her that if you want to be taken seriously even as the youngest member of the House, protesting outside the former speaker's office isn't a genius move. She appeared with 200 young climate change activists and it was inside Pelosi's office. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALEXANDRIA CORTEZ (D), CONGRESSWOMAN-ELECT NEW YORK: We need to tell her that we've got her back in the showing and pursuing of the most progressive agenda that this country has ever seen. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, these whippersnappers don't care about your seniority Grandma Mimi (ph). They want action, specifically Trump impeachment, Kavanaugh impeachment, et cetera. Well, the juvenile display ended with arrests and Ocasio-Cortez hightailed it out of there before, you know, the mob actually had the cuffs put on them. And to appear magnanimous as she faces election for speaker, Nancy begged the Capitol police to show mercy to the young protesters so they could "continue to organize and participate in our democracy." Well, she is trying to thread the needle here. She is attempting to placate the far left in the ranks while balancing the interests of members from districts that run more red. This comment, I found this today in "The New York Times" online. I think it really accurately describes the current dynamic in Pelosi's house. Stay with me here, this is good. The Democratic Party won but the blue party is not a solid, strong, united front. They are a bunch very different groups that don't see eye to eye on most anything but were united under the banner of "fire Trump." Good luck to them now. Their infighting will keep them busy arguing with each other before they can even mount an attack on red. Something that is good for the economy will not be good for the socialist led by Ocasio-Cortez. Any immigration reform will be rejected by the same cadre unless it abolishes ICE. Any cooperation with red will be forbidden. Nancy Pelosi has inherited a load of unruly children. Good luck to her getting anything passed by her own people." Well, it's not a guarantee as to who will be the next speaker at this point. There is seditious talk in the Democratic caucus of finding an alternative to Speaker Pelosi. To save her gavel though, Nancy is playing the female card. In other words, she is trying to convince her caucus you can't maintain a majority without a woman running the show. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA: You cannot have the four leaders of Congress, the president of the United States, these five people, and not have the voice of women, especially since women were the majority of the voters, the workers in the campaign and now part of this glorious victory. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: But there are dark pink clouds gathering on the horizon of this glorious victory. The newly elected crop of women on Capitol Hill see things differently than speaker grand nan (ph). Though they do not represent the majority of Democratic freshmen, these progressive upstarts have all the juice, all the energy and all the excitement. And the political gender card that Pelosi perfected has been deployed in a new way by all these new gals. Congresswoman-elect Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Ocasio-Cortez tweeted out this picture of themselves at a progressive caucus orientation the other day. Check it out. They are respectively the first Muslim-American woman, the first black woman from Massachusetts and the youngest woman ever elected to Congress. They caption the picture "squad." In another photo with a hashtag #changecantwait. Nancy Pelosi might have tagged this one #mobsquadhelp. Well, these women may as well be the four horsewomen of the apocalypse with the Democratic Party if you ask me because they represent some of the most radical views in Congress. Free college for all, free health care for all, the abolishment of ICE, a green new deal where the U.S. depends entirely on renewable energy. Have fun on those planes. And on the foreign policy front, they are even wackier. The anti-Israeli bias of some of these junior congresswoman- elect is downright disturbing. Ocasio-Cortez in July called Israel an occupier of Palestine. I guess she found that on Wikipedia. And when pressed to explain her views, well, you know, it was like, not pretty. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARGARET HOOVER, PBS HOST: You used the term the occupation of Palestine. What did you mean by that? OCASIO-CORTEZ: Oh, I think what I meant is like the settlements that are increasing in some of these areas and in places where Palestinians are experiencing difficulty in access to their housing and homes. HOOVER: Do you think you can expand on that? OCASIO-CORTEZ: Yes. I mean, I think also just -- I am not the expert on geopolitics on this issue. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The two new Muslim members of Congress go even further than this. Tlaib endorses a one-state solution where Jews have no right to their sovereign state. She said in an interview citing her Palestinian heritage, "Separate but equal does not work." And in 2014, Omar tweeted, "Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel." Nice. She recently called Israel one of our closest allies, an apartheid regime. Now, one doubts that this is what women had in mind when they voted for these female candidates, but you never know. Well then there is Massachusetts Ayanna Pressley. I think she's my favorite of all of them. She is a leftist on the warpath against white men. She hailed from the Boston City Council before walloping incumbent Democratic Representative Michael Capuano. Pressley doesn't sound like she's going to be singing "Love Me Tender" to Nancy Pelosi anytime soon. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AYANNA PRESSLEY, CONGRESSWOMAN-ELECT: It's not just good enough to see the Democrats back in power, but it matters who those Democrats are. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, Pressley vows that she's going to shake up what she calls "the corridors of power and most decision-making tables that are dominated by white men." (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PRESSLEY: When it comes to women of color candidates, folks don't just talk about a glass ceiling. What they described is a concrete one. But you know what breaks through concrete? Seismic shifts, drastic change, activist leadership. A movement builds and the citizen activist rises and a force -- they are a force to be reckoned with. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, a force to be reckoned with, we will see. But if her tenure on the Boston City Council is any guide, she is going to make Maxine Waters approach seem more like Joe Manchin's. Now, you can be certain these far left newbies is going to make governing all but impossible for the Democrats and leadership, especially considering that they are going to have progressive support though for one of their top agenda items, Trump's impeachment. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KATE BOULDAN, CNN HOST: Is impeachment your top priority if you get elected? OCASIO-CORTEZ: I think it's certainly something that needs to be on the agenda. I absolutely do. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We don't want to be in a situation where the president is deranged and we've got nothing that we can do about it. REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: They say Maxine, please don't say impeachment anymore. When they say that, I say impeachment, impeachment, impeachment. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Fraternities across the United States are going to have drinking games all next year with the "I" word. Well, the Democrats have to be very careful here. Impeaching Donald Trump, Brett Kavanaugh, Wilbur Ross, I mean, whoever they are going after, could place them in severe political jeopardy. According to a new "Politico" morning consult poll, 51 percent of all voters are opposed to the Democrats moving articles of impeachment against the president next year. Only 33 percent support impeachment. But among Democratic voters, 61 percent want their party to start impeachment proceedings, while just 22 percent are opposed. Expect Pelosi or whoever the Dem -- whomever the Dems elect as their speaker to delicately approach impeachment proceedings despite the cries from the left. But that doesn't mean that they won't harass the president and his administration to satiate their base. Axios reporting that the Dems are loading the subpoena cannon with 85 plus Trump targets in sight. The president's tax returns, real estate deals, Russia involvement, interaction with the FBI, even the Space Force will be targets of Democratic investigation. But one gets the sense, as they often do, that the Democrats are about to overplay their hand big time. Because if the Kavanaugh circus proved anything, it's that women don't like to see people unfairly tried in a public setting, particularly when the charges are politically motivated. While wrangling with the left-wing of her party, Pelosi should not mistake her slim house majority for a sweeping political mandate or a license to make war on the president. Voters, female and male, will not stand for it. And that's the "Angle." Joining me now for reaction, attorney and RNC committee woman for California Harmeet Dhillon and DNC reform commissioner and former Bernie Sanders national surrogate Nomiki Konst is friends with Ocasio-Cortez. Nomiki, I want to start with you. Does Ocasio-Cortez's stunt today demonstrate how divided House Democrats are? NOMIKI KONST, DNC REFORM COMMISSIONER: I don't think that House Democrats are necessarily divided. I think we are going through a very natural transition. What she did in Nancy Pelosi's office was actually a sign of a strong party. We have a new generation. (LAUGHTER) KONST: I'm sorry, who just laughed (inaudible), the Republicans. INGRAHAM: I'm sorry. KONST: I'm sorry. INGRAHAM: Oh no, Nomiki, that's funny. KONST: You are laughing. This is how democracy works. Our party likes debate. Our party believes in free speech. Our party is grass-roots. Your party is -- INGRAHAM: How many pro-life senators? Name the pro-life senators in your rank. How many? KONST: That's a Republican issue. We believe in -- INGRAHAM: No, it's a human rights issue, thank you very much. KONST: No, no, human rights issue is -- INGRAHAM: Yes, well, the babies don't count, we know that in your party. But I have a question. So, you're saying Nomiki -- KONST: Human beings don't count in your party. As soon as they're born you forget about them. INGRAHAM: -- you're saying Nomiki that it's a sign of unity when the biggest rock star, youthful congresswoman helps take over Pelosi's office. That's a sign of unity? I think it's interesting but to say it's a sign of unity, Harmeet Dhillon -- KONST: The base is healthy. It's America. Republicans don't like debate. We do. INGRAHAM: I get it, I get it. You cannot sell sand in the desert, OK? And you can't sell this to me, that this is a sign of unity when you see 200 climate change activists and Ocasio-Cortez like gesticulating all over the office, people getting arrested, Harmeet. HARMEET DHILLON, RNC COMMITTEE WOMAN FOR CALIFORNIA: Yes, I know it's a little wacky and alarming I'm sure, particularly for Nancy Pelosi and other senior leaders of the Democratic Party because they've won the election already now. It's the time for them to coalesce if they want to get anything done. But there has already been signs beyond what we saw in the spectacle in your video today, Laura, that they want to change the rules to increase the threshold in the Democratic caucus to 218. In other words, they want there to be virtual unanimity among the caucus. And so, what the Democrats are really -- they are over playing their hand like you said. And I think we're in for a lot of fissures and a lot of discord within as well, which means they're going to undermine their ability to move forward with their agenda. INGRAHAM: And Nomiki, just so you understand where I'm coming from, the Republicans had plenty of dissent in their ranks. I mean, the freedom caucus versus the Paul Ryan contingent and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing but it's not a sign of unity. It is a sign that the party is changing. There is one side jockeying for power. KONST: That's what's happening with us. INGRAHAM: Yes, but I'm not saying -- it's not unity. I mean, maybe it's farcical to think a party is ever going to be completely unified. The Republicans certainly weren't, Harmeet, when they came in 2010. We had a big fissure in the party in 2010, did we not? DHILLON: Yes, absolutely. We did -- KONST: But now that they have their tax cuts -- DHILLON: -- and we're continuing to see that -- KONST: Everyone is on the same page now that the tax cuts are there. DHILLON: Well, no -- INGRAHAM: I don't think so. I wish. I wish the Republicans were unified. I actually don't think they are unified at all. I really don't. DHILLON: No, they are not unified at all. I wish they had actually been more unified in the last two years and we would've potentially held onto more seats. INGRAHAM: Nomiki, let's play this for you. These are some of the Democrats who have stood now against Pelosi as speaker. Let's take a listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I won't be voting for Nancy Pelosi. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am not voting for her. No if, ands or buts under any circumstances. REP. ABIGAIL SPANBERGER (D), VIRGINIA: No, I will be voting for someone who represents the values that I am working to achieve for our district. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So where is this going, Nomiki do you think given the excitement behind Congresswoman-elect Pressley and Ocasio-Cortez versus some of the old guard? KONST: Yes. I think it's not necessarily a generational issue here. I mean, the bottom line here is we won back Congress. The Democrats won back Congress and it is important to have somebody who understands how congress functions, how to work with a diverse caucus. Now, do we have issues with Nancy Pelosi being -- and every single Republican attack ad, absolutely. That's going to happen no matter what. You guys are still complaining about Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is off in retirement now, but you're still leading episodes about Hillary Clinton. They are going to do that no matter what. I think what Nancy Pelosi does bring is an expertise, knowledge, she's very likable. When it comes to some progressive issues, she's very strong. When it comes to corporate issues, she's not. I think that progressive of my generation would like to see somebody who is more independent of the corporate class that does not reflect a new generation of progressive Democrats. INGRAHAM: That's what we want in the Republican Party. That's why the Republicans and Democrats can maybe on some issues we can come together because I want my party to be less captive to the corporate class too especially on issues of human rights in places like China and our trade relationships. Let's put up a list, Harmeet, of some of the issues that are uniting a lot of Democrats today. We mention some in the "Angle." Free college for all, free health care for all, abolishing ICE, a green new deal which would include not permitting any money coming into campaigns from any industry that is attached in any way to fossil fuels. DHILLON: Right. And rolling back tax cuts, that is another one that's really motivating to them. And I don't think they are going to have unity on that because the same money that got these people elected, the big, you know, corporate interests that want to see Democrats controlling the agenda, they aren't going to let those types of radical far left things happen. And so I think that ultimately they are really going to be hobbled in getting this done but it is going to cause a lot of acrimony and discord. And I think the real battleground, Laura, is not going to be for the speaker chair but for all of the seat below it. So Nancy might end up getting the speakership but the leadership roles below her maybe going to some of these new radicals, and that's really going to be -- INGRAHAM: Nomiki, does some of the anti-Israel sentiment -- it's not so much a substantive debate about U.S. aid to Israel or Yemen or Saudi Arabia but there seems to be among some of the newer more exciting candidates a visceral hatred of Israel. KONST: I would not say that at all. INGRAHAM: And that -- you didn't get that? We just laid it out in the "Angle." Did you listen to the "Angle" Because they are words? KONST: I know. I heard that. I've listened to many of these candidates. I've seen them. I've spoken to several of them. I looked at their platforms in-depth. I think that when it comes to some of these candidates, they are talking about the free-speech when it comes to BDS. That is something that should be debated. That's what the ACLU takes a position on. INGRAHAM: Its apartheid? KONST: I think that others are misinterpreting their stances but that is something we should be able to debate in a democracy. INGRAHAM: Yes, but saying that Israel is an apartheid regime. It's our strongest ally in the Middle East and a democracy. It's not an apartheid. That is just ignorance. KONST: Well, this is where -- INGRAHAM: I mean, I am all for debate but that's ignorance. That is complete ignorance, and it's bordering on anti- Semitic. It's a fascinating conversation and I think this is exciting time for the Democrats, you have to say. If you are a Democrat, it's exciting. It's exciting to challenge the old guard. KONST: It's an exciting time for women. Over 100 women elected to Congress so, we can say we want about Kavanaugh, they did turn out. INGRAHAM: I think it's exciting to see what happens. Republicans have their challenges in the majority and we will see where the Democrats go. Fantastic conversation from both you. And for more on why Trump won and how the GOP could do it again, grab a copy of my new paperback. "Busting The Barricades: What I Saw at the Populist Revolt" in bookstores everywhere. And next, CNN sues the White House. Does this play right into the president's hands? We are going to examine it, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think you should let me run the country. You run CNN. And if you did it well, your ratings would be much higher. JIM ACOSTA, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: But let me ask you -- If I may ask you another question. Mr. President -- TRUMP: OK, that's enough. Peter, go ahead. ACOSTA: If I may ask you another question. Are you worried -- TRUMP: That's enough. That's enough. That's enough. ACOSTA: Pardon me ma'am. I'm -- Mr. President -- TRUMP: Excuse me. That's enough. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I still love that intern. Do we know who that is? I want to take her to lunch. All right, CNN filed a lawsuit today demanding that the Trump administration reinstate reporter Jim Acosta's press credentials. A move that Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said was "more grandstanding from CNN." Now, the White House you recall revoked Acosta's credentials over that theatrical display at last week's press conference. And CNN's lawsuit is now claiming that banning Acosta runs afoul of the First Amendment's freedom of the press as well as CNN's Fifth Amendment right to due process. Joining me here to react, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Victor David Hanson, Howie Kurtz, host of course of "Media Buzz," and Jeffrey Lord, former CNN contributor and author of the forthcoming book "Swamp Wars." Jeffrey, let me start with you. You claim that CNN only cares about certain types of free-speech --as a CNN alum explain. JEFFREY LORD, FORMER CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, well, you know, two things. Firs on the First Amendment, it's great that they care about the first amendment but as I have written in "Swamp Wars," they are selective about it. When people are out there trying to attack Fox News advertisers or get Fox destroyed, when they are going after conservative contributors or commentators, whether it's on Fox News or in conservative media, they are silent on all of this. And so too is the White House Correspondents Association. Last year, I wrote a column about this after I went to the correspondents dinner and they were all about the First Amendment. I asked Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity if in their various troubles with people trying to take them off the air, the correspondents association had ever defended them. The answer was no. This is the problem. I mean, it's sort of, you know, First Amendment for me but not for thee. And the second thing is, you know, I have to tell you, I know Jim Acosta. I liked him. I was on panels with him, you know, in the sort of off- duty hours as we were running around America. I spent time with him. I remember one night being in the same room with both Jim Acosta and Sarah Sanders. Things were fine. I cannot understand what he is doing here. CNN's own video shows him touching this girl and then he goes on CNN and says it didn't happen. I mean, I don't know what to say about that. INGRAHAM: I don't care if he is like the humanitarian of the year, OK. I think we should ban anyone saying someone is a nice person. I'm glad they are a nice person. I help puppies and cats out of trees. LORD: Just apologize. INGRAHAM: But it is a stunt. This is "look at me" time in the White House press room. LORD: Yes. INGRAHAM: I want to go to Howie also. Howie, I always forget you worked for CNN eons ago. HOWARD KURTZ, FOX NEWS HOST: Yes, a different era. INGRAHAM: A different era, but this is what CNN said in a statement today, Howie. "Among other things, the Fifth Amendment rights to due process, that's the funniest of all, First Amendment rights, freedom of the press." And he said, "If left unchallenged, the actions of the White House would create a dangerous chilling effect for any journalist who covers our elected officials." Has Donald Trump not availed reporters of himself and tough questions over the last year? KURTZ: He's taken zillions of questions especially lately. But with this lawsuit, CNN is basically signaling to million of Trump supporters that not only does it seem journalistically oppose the president, it is legally opposing the president. And then Jeff Zucker, the CNN president who is now casting himself as defender of press freedom, said today, "The First Amendment guarantees reporters the right to ask tough questions." Nobody is disputing that. It's not about Acosta's questions though he kind of lectured the president rather than asking questions. It's about him flaunting the rules, interrupting other reporters, interrupting the president and refusing to give up the mic. And that's been lost in this battle over credentials. INGRAHAM: VDH, the public's view of the press, as you pointed out many times in your writings, has been declining fairly precipitously over the years. How does this affect that? VICTOR DAVID HANSON, SENIOR FELLOW, HOOVER INSTITUTION: Well, it's in a larger context. The (inaudible) no conservative outlet said 93 percent of CNN's first 100 days was anti-Trump. And then we had Christianne Amanpour, a pretty stellar luminary at CNN said she could no longer be neutral when it came to Trump. And got to keep the cycle drama in context. It's not like Trump is surveilling the Associated Press or James Rosen of Fox. He hasn't -- KURTZ: That happened during the Obama administration. HANSON: Yes it did. And the other thing to remember is CNN, I mean, when Trump says fake news, what comes to my mind is they said that Comey would refute -- CNN did -- Comey would refute the Trump test -- not. And they said that Donald Trump, Jr. had advanced knowledge of the WikiLeaks. Not. They said Donald Trump knew about the Russian meeting in the tower. Not. They said that Scaramucci had $10 billion hedge fund connection with Russians. Not. You put all of that context and then you have Anderson Cooper with the dump (inaudible). You had, I think, the religion editor said -- remember the religion editor said Trump is a piece of -- I can't repeat what he said. You had Kathy Griffin with the facsimile of a head. INGRAHAM: Well, Ana Navarro last week, does she work for (inaudible) CNN. HANSON: They were joking on the hot mic. Remember the joke about the hot mic that Trump would crash. INGRAHAM: Plus Ana Navarro said -- called the president of the United States a racist pig last week. And then it's like this. HANSON: How about the former head of the CIA, Hayden, twice evoke the holocaust and Nazi imagery -- INGRAHAM: SO that's fake. That's a lie and they are perpetuating a lie. HANSON: CNN is basically part of the resistance and I think that Acosta knows that and he is virtue signaling to his audience, to his peers, and to his bosses. INGRAHAM: Well, I also have heard, Jeffrey, from -- well now, three members of the White House media circle, that they don't like this. Again, I'm not going to get into personalities. Some people are like -- that's not important. But it does take away from substantive questioning on what's going to happen with his meeting with President Xi. What's going to go on with the attacks on the president's trade policy from the globalists at Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, all these hedge funders that are trying to affect the president's policy? Those are really interesting questions. What are you going to do with the caravans? But you can't ask those because Jim Acosta has to throw a hissy fit as a grown man and pull a microphone away from like a 22-year-old young woman. That's classy. I'm sorry, but it's just embarrassing. It's embarrassing for CNN. I'm glad Ted Turner said what he said recently. Ted Turner or Larry King said CNN has long since gone. Larry King said it's all about Trump and long since been a news network. It's not a news network anymore. Jeffrey? JEFFREY LORD, CONTRIBUTOR, EDITOR, "AMERICAN SPECTATOR": You've got those peers of his in the room, and you have to believe that at a certain point, they are saying, for heaven's sakes, Jim, sit down and shut up. INGRAHAM: Why aren't they saying anything? LORD: Well, I think what we have is a serious case of groupthink and herd thinking there, and I think some of them are afraid to because it's peer pressure. They are all supposed to be anti-Trump. That's why they don't speak out. HOWARD KURTZ, FOX NEWS MEDIA ANALYST: I do think it was a strategic misstep for the White House to take away the credentials because it made him into a journalistic martyr. At the same time, it's made Jim Acosta famous. Maybe CNN will give him an opinion show which is what he should have. INGRAHAM: He's not a reporter. He's an opinion guy. VDH, I've got to ask you, what about Trump standing there, instead of revoking credits, standing there and saying , guys, I'm happy to answer questions. When you want to have a press conference, let me know. Tell Sarah. I'll be back. And just leave. HANSON: That might be wise, but it is sort of like revoking the security clearance Brennan. Brennan basically called Trump treasonous and announced that -- so it was the same idea. If you hijack your show and don't announce or opinionate and you start ranting, or if I -- I was a professor for 35 years. If I took a class over and I started doing that, I don't have First Amendment rights. My bosses or the dean would call me in and say you're done. You are unprofessional. The idea that he has a God-given right to sermonized and pontificate on a soapbox - - INGRAHAM: The lawsuit is a farce. And Ted Boutrous, who is a respected lawyer, for arguing that this is a due process or First Amendment issue, anyone who knows anything about First Amendment law, I'm sorry. That itself is a disgrace. You don't have our First Amendment right to enter the White House compound. It's preposterous. Guys, thank you so much. And up next, an "Ingraham Angle" exclusive. So would voters really support a third Hillary Clinton presidential run? Frank Luntz asked that question to a New Hampshire focus group. The can't-miss answers, hilarious, are next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) FRANK LUNTZ, POLLSTER: How many of you by show of hands, and I want you to shoot them up, how many of you want Hillary Clinton to run for president in 2020? (END VIDEO CLIP) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you want to run again? HILLARY CLINTON, (D) FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: No. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There was a pause. CLINTON: Well, I'd like to be president. (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, she has tried before, and now there are rumors that she may make a third run is the charm. But what do actual voters think? In an exclusive for "The Ingraham Angle" Frank Luntz conducted a focus group of New Hampshire voters and asked them if they had the stomach for another Hillary run. Their answers, well, they were quite revealing. Here's the exclusive footage. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) FRANK LUNTZ, POLLSTER: How many of you by show of hands, and I want you to shoot them up, how many of you want Hillary Clinton to run for president in 2020? Go. (LAUGHTER) LUNTZ: Why not? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Been there, done that. Hillary's day is done. Hillary was the most qualified permits that ever ran for president but the least electable candidate that ever ran for president. And although she will always have those credentials, she is not well-liked and she's not popular enough to be about to get the voters to vote for her. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just don't want the same old thing. LUNTZ: The same old thing? Isn't that kind of insulting? (LAUGHTER) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. I don't mean old as she is old. I mean the same old thing meaning we already had a Clinton in there. We don't need another Clinton in there. We need somebody that is going to change. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think the Democrats really need to do some research in coming up with some other candidates. Hillary's name comes up a lot, and she's got the experience and so forth, but just, as you were saying, that's in the past. We really -- the Democrats really do. They have to find other candidates that can win the election. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She's been rejected twice now by the electorate, and I just think if she runs again, there's not much of a chance. I think it would be a waste if she ran again. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The third time is not going to be a charm for her. She has been rejected. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Even though she's a female, you can't run because you are female or black or whatever. She's old. She is old news, I should say. Not old. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She gave us Donald Trump. That should be enough. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She was the only person that could lose to Donald Trump -- I mean that Donald Trump could -- LUNTZ: Do you guys agree with that? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. I think anybody would've lost Donald Trump because he said what a lot of people wanted to hear, unfortunately. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me now, the man you just saw lead that discussion, pollster Frank Luntz. So Frank, you are a professional pollster. What would you advise Hillary after hearing those answers? FRANK LUNTZ, POLLSTER: To write another book. Go do more speeches. She will be embarrassed if she does it, and if I was close to her, as Mark Penn is coming on the show, I would simply tell her no. You had a shot. You had a good shot, but the time has passed. INGRAHAM: I like the one woman, in schools in New Hampshire for a while, I love the woman who says, third time is not a charm, the New Hampshire accent. The other says she gave us Donald Trump. I think where they might get it wrong if she's the only person who could've lost to Trump. And the wisdom at the end, the woman said no, I think he was saying what people wanted to hear. And she said unfortunately. But it's interesting to hear that group of people. Was there anyone else? LUNTZ: Yes, to my surprise. They complained she was old. They didn't really mean her age, but they did a little bit. What they really want is someone who they think can be Trump, and they picked Joe Biden. INGRAHAM: So they didn't like Hillary. So who do they like? In part two we do get some of the folks and what they say about who might have the right stuff to take on President Trump, as Frank just said, so let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If the Democrats don't come up with somebody that, nonpolitician. LUNTZ: Who? Who? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hillary is oatmeal in the Democratic Party. It may be good for you and it may say all the right things, but the Democratic Party need somebody with some charisma and some pizzazz, like the gentleman from Texas. LUNTZ: Beto O'Rourke. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Beto O'Rourke. LUNTZ: You think he's good. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He seems to be able to maybe ignite the party again, which was something President Obama could do. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bloomberg. LUNTZ: Why Bloomberg? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He was mayor. (LAUGHTER) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think he could take on Trump. He has talked about becoming a Democrat now. I think he's actually represented all parties. He knows that he's got to go to the Democratic side if he really seriously wants to run. His business background, he's very outspoken. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Joe Biden would run for president with a vice presidential, young vice presidential candidate that can go hand-in-hand with him. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Wait a second, Joe Biden? The other one was saying Hillary was old. Isn't Joel older than Hillary? Or is it because he writes Amtrak that makes him an interesting candidate? LUNTZ: I'm told Amtrak created the quiet car because of Joe Biden. INGRAHAM: Oh, my goodness. LUNTZ: It's interesting that they are naming people who have been around for a while but they reject Hillary Clinton. And a lot of those people there, because they're independents and they can vote in the Democratic primary, half of them don't want someone who can beat Donald Trump. Half of them still want Trump as their president. So the battle in New Hampshire isn't just on the left and on the right. If you capture the center, it's 20 percent, it's additional votes that you can't get in other state primaries. INGRAHAM: To me the hilarious thing is when people are saying that guy in Texas, he has charisma. That guy. Beto. It's the name, I think, Beto O'Rourke, Barack Obama. You know, the names are the same. Charisma, people are looking for charisma because they know that Trump had it. LUNTZ: But these are supposed to be the most educated voters, they're supposed to be the most informed. And what is clear is that they are now choosing people not based on policy but based on personality. And that has changed. INGRAHAM: And Trump's personality, contrary to the Jim Acostas of the world, people like that kind of rough-and- tumble thing. He was our bully, he a lot of people thought. LUNTZ: That's the point, it has to be for them. If it's just for Donald Trump, he will fall short. But if he is fighting for me, if he's fighting for us, then he will be successful. INGRAHAM: So if you could advise Trump tonight, keep the focus on America, away from your personal squabbles. LUNTZ: And I'd also being saying I'm your voice. Not only do I hear you, not only am I listening, I'm your voice in Washington. INGRAHAM: The forgotten people, that line from his inaugural and from the convention speech, that really drove it home. Frank, loved this, thank you so much for doing it. And much to the glee of the Trump world, a former Clinton advisor recently wrote an op-ed saying that Hillary will in fact be the Democratic nominee. Mark Penn is here to react to the focus group you just on next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Who is your dream person to run against in 2020? You have already raised $100 million. Dream candidate to run against. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: So far I like them all. I don't see anybody -- INGRAHAM: Hillary, apparently she is not down and out. TRUMP: I like her too. I like her too. I'd be very happy with Hillary. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is not much of a chance. I think it would be a waste if she ran again. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Answers like that may come as a surprise to one of our next guest. Mark Penn recently wrote a "Wall Street Journal" op-ed in which he claimed, quote, "Reinventing herself as a liberal firebrand, Mrs. Clinton will easily capture the 2020 nomination." Joining me now democratic pollster, former Clinton insider Mark Penn, along with former Clinton pollster Doug Schoen. Mark, you heard those New Hampshire voters. Do you still stand behind your piece? MARK PENN, DEMOCRATIC POLLSTER: Those were New Hampshire independent voters. Hillary has a 75 percent favorable among the Democratic base, 77 percent in the Gallup poll. If you look at it, is she going to run? I don't really know for sure, but will she look for an opportunity to undo the wrongs that occurred? Will she come back? She stayed very, very close to the Democratic base. She is fighting now in Florida. She's out there on the stump. You look at the possible opponents in the Kavanaugh hearings, they made fools of themselves. No one has emerged as a strong candidate on the Democratic field. I say it's a real possibility that she will run, and if she does, she will have an opportunity to have a second chance at defeating Donald Trump. INGRAHAM: Words like "old" and "oatmeal" were used to describe Hillary Clinton. When I start hearing that, it's time to go, I don't know what, sell reverse mortgages or something. I don't know. That can't be feeling all that good. Independent voters are important in New Hampshire, are they not? PENN: If we ran a focus group on Donald Trump, he wouldn't fare so well either. The truth is both Trump and her have almost the same image, have about 40 percent favorable and about 55 percent unfavorable in the country. INGRAHAM: That's a fair point. That's a fair point. Doug, this is what Mrs. Clinton said tonight in Austin, Texas. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, (D) FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I was kind of criticized and made fun of in the 2016 campaign because I really did give it a lot of thought about what we could do and what would work. And I kept thinking that that would matter. It kind of didn't at the end. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: She's kind of saying, Doug, that voters don't really know what matters. Is that a winning message? DOUG SCHOEN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I must tell you, I agree with Mark's basic premise. She will run if she can run. She will say whatever she needs to say to win. And what I took from that, Laura, is she trying to figure out what would get her elected. It didn't work. And so she is now sort of blaming the electorate and doing what she has never done, which is to blame herself. Frankly, when you lose an election, you've got to be introspective. And so far, I haven't seen that from her. INGRAHAM: Mark, one of the other things I think some folks thought after they read your piece, which was a fascinating piece, was that back in 2007, your strategy memo, I think, you said Obama was unelectable except against Attila the Hun, back March 19th, 2007. "I can't imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values." It sounds like I could have written that, Mark. But he actually ends up winning because he runs against McCain who was basically carrying on the Bush tradition which people were rejecting, were they not, in 2008? I've made some bad predictions, too, so that's OK. PENN: I think that prediction was off, but the point, that's really taken out of context. The point was that Hillary was actually born in the Midwest, and people really had lost the notion that she really had deep connections to the Midwest because they thought of her as a New York liberal. In fact, the day before I wrote that, Obama had got to Kansas and they said he was truly a midwestern American. So that was taken out of context. Fair enough. He did win against McCain who turned out to be a far weaker candidate. INGRAHAM: He was a -- God rest his soul, American patriot, but he was a terrible candidate for the presidency. Doug, close it out for us. Biden or Hillary, if you had to pick right now the candidate was going to beat Donald Trump, which one would you pick? Either/or, that's it. SCHOEN: Yes, either/or, I would pick Biden over Hillary. Hillary will run if she can, but there will be a fresh face because the Democrats always want somebody new and different. Mark my words. INGRAHAM: New Coke, new Tide, new, new, new. SCHOEN: Exactly. INGRAHAM: All right, gentlemen, thanks so much. SCHOEN: Thank you. INGRAHAM: And we warned you the Democrats are going to seek to extend the Florida recount by any means necessary, and they might be getting some help. We are going to take you live to ground zero in Broward County next for details. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHUCK SCHUMER, (D) SENATE MINORITY LEADER: Trump and Scott are attempting to bully the election officials in Florida out of doing their jobs in an attempt to win this election. It's just plain wrong. It's un-American. (END VIDEO CLIP) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRENDA SNIPES, BROWARD COUNTY SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS: In this position, I've been very focused on party because I wanted to treat all the voters in Broward County the same. And I think if you ask the voters, you would find that I have that reputation. I don't have a reason to hold anything back, except that I don't want to give out information that is incomplete or incorrect at that particular time. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: No problem. That was Brenda Snipes, the Broward County supervisor of elections, a registered Democrat denying that politics is playing any part in the recount mass unfolding right now in Florida. It comes as we are learning of some new Democratic efforts to extend looming deadlines. Why not? By any means necessary. Senator Marco Rubio is not buying it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. MARCO RUBIO, (R) FLORIDA: This election office this incompetent and this lawbreaking, it creates enormous opportunity for those sorts of arguments to be made. And suddenly the election is decided by a judge or lawyers, not by voters the way they're supposed to be. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: FOX's Phil Keating is live with us from Broward County, Florida, tonight with all the late-breaking details. Phil? PHIL KEATING, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Laura, just to the south of us in Miami-Dade County, Florida's largest, that one with the most balanced recount, they are done. Finished the recounting process tonight to a room full of applause. Meanwhile the lawsuits in Florida continue, and the extension of recounting hours by days just may still happen. Looking live inside Broward's operation, sorting of ballots continues around-the-clock but they have now completed recounting all early votes. That's 300,000. They are ahead of schedule for that Thursday afternoon official recount deadline. Democratic Senator Bill Nelson, joined by minority leader Chuck Schumer, is now suing in federal court to kill the deadline period, so that every county can finish. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. BILL NELSON, (D) FLORIDA: This process is about one thing -- making sure that every legal ballot is counted, and protecting the right of every Floridian. (END VIDEO CLIP) KEATING: Nelson is behind Governor Rick Scott by 12,000 votes in his recount battle with the governor, Rick Scott. And as the legally required recounting has now gone three days plus, President Trump keeps up criticism. "When will Bill Nelson concede in Florida? The characters running Broward and Palm Beach voting will not be able to, quote, "find" enough votes. Too much spotlight on them now." And an hour ago, Broward County's embattled supervisor of elections Brenda Snipes unexpectedly faced the media cameras and said she might resign actually after all of this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRENDA SNIPES, BROWARD COUNTY SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS: All the emphasis, all the focus is on me. But I have a great staff who takes on any task and their job is to get it done. So regardless to whether I'm here or someone else is here, there is an excellent foundation to this office and it really won't matter. (END VIDEO CLIP) KEATING: And tonight in Palm Beach County, just to the north of us, reports that two of their recounting machines, they are old and overrun, malfunctioned. Mechanics are on the way, but reportedly a day's worth of recounting work has been erased, and that is a county that was struggling to meet the deadline Thursday. In fact, a Leon County judge this afternoon extended them for five more days so they can recount all their races, a decision likely to be appealed. Laura? INGRAHAM: Phil, thanks so much, 21st century in Palm Beach county, still can't count the votes. Oh, my goodness. Thanks for that great report. And when we come back, Monica Lewinsky opens up about Bill Clinton in a new interview. Tonight's last bite next. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. Monica Lewinsky speaking up for the first time about why she fell in love with then-president Bill Clinton. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MONICA LEWINSKY: It's not as if it didn't register with me that he was the president. Obviously, it did. But I think in one way, the moment we were actually in the back office for the first time, the truth is that I think it meant more to me than someone who other people desired, desired me. However wrong it was, however misguided, for who I was in that very moment at 22 years old, that was how it felt. (END VIDEO CLIP) LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: It's heartbreaking to hear that. She also told the magazine she recoiled whenever Bill gave an interview in the years following because she knew he would never be asked about his affair. An indictment on all our media. Now, that's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team. Take it from here, Shannon. Load-Date: November 14, 2018 End of Document Dems Plotting Destructive Agenda For House; Fraud In Florida?; The Recount In Florida's Midterm Is Not Over Yet, And As Time Passes Each Day, Governor Rick Scott's Lead Versus Incumbent Bill Nelson Gets Smaller; Congressman Matt Gaetz Was Stopped By Some Men When He Tried To Investigate What's Inside A Truck That The Congressman Believes Carried Some Things From The Recount; A Democrat Representative Admitted To Axios What The Majority In The House Are Planning To Do To President Trump Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 12, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7306 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Gregg Jarrett, Andrew McCarthy, Tammy Bruce Guests: J. Christian Adams, Matt Gaetz, Steve Scalise Body TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Here was a political dispute where everybody stayed calm and kind of reasonable. Nobody's life was destroyed at the end, and everybody came back out of the other sides enhanced. That's a good news story, one of the few. That's about it for us tonight. We'll be back at 8:00, tomorrow night, for the show that's the sworn enemy of lying pomposity, smugness and groupthink. Sean Hannity next up. SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: I'm not going to say that you're seven seconds late, because I know you have the scoreboard over there. CARLSON: I don't actually. The clock went dead. HANNITY: I know -- this is important. Listen, on a personal note. I know you're in vacation last week. I'm so sorry all that you and your family had to go through. Hang in there. We've all had some of this -- it's not -- it's really dangerous. Hang in there. I feel bad for your wife, your family, your kids. CARLSON: Thank you. The more good news is there are more good people in this country than bad, and we've heard from a lot of them. We're grateful for that. HANNITY: A hundred percent. CARLSON: Thank you, Sean. HANNITY: All right, my friend. Good show, Tucker. Welcome to HANNITY. All right. Buckle up, tonight, the sanctity of your vote in this country is at risk. As Americans, we have polls on Election Day, we expect our votes to be safeguarded, to be tracked, counted by diligent, honest officials in accordance with the law. That did not happen in southern Florida. Since election night, nearly 100,000 uncounted votes have just magically turned up in liberal Broward and Palm Beach Counties. We have no idea where the votes came from, where they've been, why they weren't counted last Tuesday. So many laws -- we will outline this tonight -- have been broken. Our inalienable rights have been spent on and now just breaking moments ago, our sources confirming tonight to "Hannity," they are telling us a criminal investigation is in fact now underway. Now, coming up, we are going to show you why this crisis in Florida should deeply concern all Americans, not just Floridians. And tonight, we've warned you for months the destructive Democratic agenda they are hiding will wreak chaos across the country. Now, they are finally telling us endless investigations, subpoenas, a quest for impeachment, not a single plan to improve the lives of the American people. So, it is now the top order of business in the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives, just destroy Trump, the Pelosi-destroy-Trump House. Now, we're going to show you how Pelosi, Waters, Schiff, Nadler and company are hitting the ground running. It's everything they purposely did not tell you before the midterms that they have been planning all along. All right. Sit tight, buckle up. A lot to cover tonight. It will take the full hour. We start with our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC HANNITY: All right. Less than a month ago, a massive category four hurricane made landfall on the Gulf Coast of Florida in the Panhandle. Thirty-five counties were under the state of emergency, 155-mile-per-hour winds wreaking havoc throughout the Panhandle. The destruction, as you can see, as we saw, was horrific. Entire blocks were literally wiped away. The area sustained billions upon billions of dollars in damage. But on November the 6th, Floridians in the Panhandle, they went to the polls and their votes were counted, every single one of them on time in accordance with Florida law and Florida's Constitution. Sadly, the same cannot be said in southern Florida. And Palm Beach, Broward Counties, we are witnessing a colossal disaster. Laws have been broken. Florida's Constitution ignored. None of this was caused by a hurricane, but rather local officials who are incompetent, corrupt, and obviously feel they are above the law, that 65 other Florida counties, 65 of 67, adhered to. In Palm Beach County, at least 15,000 new ballots were unearthed and counted after election night. And in Broward County, almost 75,000 so- called "uncounted votes" magically turning up day after day after day after the election. Tens of thousands of lost ballots just seemingly appeared out of thin air! The vast majority, of course, cast by Democrats. Now, this should not -- let me be straightforward -- this should not be Republican/Democrat, conservative/liberal. This is -- they shouldn't be about politics. This is much deeper. Whatever your political affiliation, what we are witnessing is a horrific miscarriage of America's most fundamental rights and a serious potential, now criminal violation. The law is clear. It is unambiguous. Florida law, let's put it on the screen. Quote, says, the canvassing board shall report all early voting, all tabulated vote by mail results to the Department of State within 30 minutes after the polls close. The law continues, quote, the canvassing board shall report with the exception of provisional ballot results updated precinct election results to the department at least every 45 minutes until results are completely reported. Sixty-five of Florida's 67 counties, they complied with the law, including every county in the panhandle that was absolutely ravaged by Hurricane Michael 27 days prior to the election. Broward, Palm Beach Counties totally ignored the law, broke the law. For days, Broward County officials continued to tally literally tens of thousands of votes in violation of state law. It appears yet again we have one system of justice and elections for Democrats and another for the rest of us. Now, the supervisor of elections in Broward County, a woman by the name of Brenda Snipes, would not even tell state officials where these mysterious votes were coming from, where the votes have been, how many votes were left to be counted -- again, a violation of law. There was no updating of votes every 45 minutes -- again, violating the law. And this morning, multiple boxes full of sample and provisional ballots left behind in some rental car, were actually discovered by an Avis employee at Fort Lauderdale Airport. This is insanity. You know, we send election observers to other countries. We need them here. On Friday, Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz literally blocked from observing a location where ballots were being loaded into a truck. Take a look for yourself. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MATT GAETZ (R), FLORIDA: Why can't we watch what's going on, man? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're told you can't be here. GAETZ: Who told you we can't watch what's going off the truck? Who's -- yes, I would love to see. You tell me why we can't know what's going in and out of that truck. Who -- what's the name of your supervisor? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Will get all this taken care of. GAETZ: Do you know his real name? The supervisor's name, who -- what is their name? You know their names? Will you tell it to me? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What's on the truck? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: What we are seeing in South Florida is a national disgrace and it's far worse than that. Broward and Palm Beach Counties violated any chance of there being any real integrity in the vote in Florida. We will never have any chance of knowing what the accurate vote tallies were from this past election now in the state of Florida. That has been ruled. That's off the table. And tonight, all we really know for certain is that the, quote, newly counted ballots have drastically tightened the election and subsequently triggering statewide recounts. All because of what is gross incompetence, corruption, at the Broward County supervisor of election board and Brenda Snipes. Now, she has a history of this. Late last week, we have a judge ruling that Brenda Snipes actually violated state election law. What is more outrageous is this is not new for Ms. Snipes. Now, her track record is literally atrocious. Why she's in this position is beyond any understanding. How she's been allowed to continue in this powerful position is beyond comprehension. Last week, we learned that Snipes, quote, accidentally mixed in provisional ballots with several hundred valid votes. That means the entire vote count has been irreversible corrupted. And just this past August, a judge ruled that Snipes systematically had mishandled mail-in absentee ballots. In 2017, a judge also ruled she illegally destroyed ballots following a primary race. And in 2016, some Broward County election results posted were online, get this, before the polls have closed. And in 2012, 1,000 absentee ballots, well, they were mysteriously discovered in Broward County a week after that election. And in 2004, Snipes simply lost track of 16,000 absentee ballots. Now, this is the woman that could determine the outcome of these important races for the Senate and the governor's race in Florida. Now, many Floridians are rightfully calling for consequences. Former Governor Jeb Bush tweeting out there's no question that the Broward County supervisor of elections, Brenda Snipes, failed to comply with Florida law on multiple counts undermining Floridians' confidence in our electoral process, supervisory Snipes should be removed from her office following the recounts. Maybe now. I don't think we should wait. Senator Marco Rubio, very vocal, also about Snipes and her incompetence and corruption, tweeting, quote: Every vote time legally cast and received within time frame required by law should be counted. The issue in Florida has been repeated violations of election law by the incompetence and lack of transparency of Palm Beach Elections, Broward County Elections. And now, Snipes could, in fact, tonight be facing criminal charges. Sources have confirmed to us on multiple levels tonight, a criminal investigation into election misconduct in South Florida is now ongoing. Just a short time ago, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi released a letter from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement stating that they will work with the Attorney General Bondi on any criminal investigation and subsequent prosecution of Brenda Snipes or anyone else who may have broken laws and committed voter fraud. Now, of course, the damage has been done. Florida governor-turned-Senator- elect Rick Scott is now sounding the alarm. You don't just magically find 93,000 votes laying around unless you need smoke for cover. That's why this is so problematic. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GOV. RICK SCOTT (R), FLORIDA: Bill Nelson is clearly a sore loser. He cannot stand the fact that he's not going to be elected for, what, the first time in decades, and he won't -- he's just here to steal the election. That's what he's done. His lawyer came down here and said, I'm here to win the election. I'm not here to get a free and fair election to make sure votes are counted. No, he wants to win the election. That's his only purpose. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, make no mistake, when the dust settles here, Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis will take their rightful place as senator and governor of Florida. But tonight, Democratic operatives, they are trying to prevent all of that from happening. On Friday, lawyers for the Gillum and Nelson campaigns, they actually objected to a judge, to noncitizens votes being rightfully denied. In other words, they want votes from noncitizens to now count. Where is their integrity in all of this tonight? That means they only care about power. Nothing else. Rule of law means nothing to them. And it gets even worse. Nelson just hired an attorney. His name is Marc Elias. His name may sound familiar to you. He's the left-wing hack at the very center of Hillary Clinton's attempt to rig the 2016 election with that phony dossier. Remember, Clinton, the DNC paid millions to Elias and his firm, Perkins Coie, yes, that firm, to dig up the Russian dirt, hire Fusion GPS, hiring a foreign national Christopher Steele, and ex-foreign spy, subsequently put together a dirty dossier full of Russian lies that not even Christopher Steele stood by? That campaign opposition research? Remember, it was distributed across all of Obama's DOJ by Steele as credible, nonpartisan, information, the contents leaked to the press before the 2016 election. Remember, David Corns' article October 31st, 2016, only days before the election, he reported that, quote, a veteran spy has given FBI information alleging a Russian operative to cultivate Donald Trump. And let's not forget about Michael Isikoff's Yahoo report September 2016, alleging Russian collusion. Democrats trying to rig the election with the help of Hillary's bought and paid for foreign nationals using Russian lies. Remember, none of it was ever confirmed. Most of it has been debunked. And as you can see, Elias - - he's been very experienced Democratic operative and, of course, he's also been involved in past recounts. His quotes will shock you. In 2013, he said, those who have seen past recounts in Virginia know that they do not tend to change the results. By the way, it was only 167-vote advantage for the guy he is representing. The next year, he said, quote, recounts really only happened where you are talking about dozens or a few hundred votes separating candidates. Gee, Marc, I wonder why the change of heart. Gun for hire, say anything, just, you know, make the rules up as you go along? Now, of course, the Democrats -- they pretty much wrote the book on election rigging during the 2016 election. I seem like the only one that's pointed this out. We all know the Democratic primary, we know it was fixed for Hillary Clinton. Remember, former interim DNC chair Donna Brazile admitting this on my radio show -- remember, she has actually used the word "rigged", she kind of tried to back off in this interview but she admits she used it. Take a listen. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) DONNA BRAZILE, FORMER DNC CHAIR: What I said in the book was that an exchange for bailing out the party which was broke, the Clinton campaign would get control over certain decisions and aspects of the DNC that made it difficult, if not impossible, for me to do my job. It was unethical, but it was not rigged. And I stand by that. HANNITY: But you said you actually use the word rigged. BRAZILE: Of course, because I promised Bernie that I would go department by department and do a forensic test to find out what happened. (END AUDIO CLIP) HANNITY: She used the word "rigged" herself and she tells the story how Bernie was robbed by the DNC machine that Clinton was controlling, the cancer, as she called it. Hangs up the phone after having to tell Bernie Sanders the truth, said she cried out of anger over this. So, we have one system for this, and elections for Democrats, just like we have one system of justice for the Clintons, and another one for anyone who opposes them. This is not equal justice under the law or equal application of our laws. Now, tonight, we are going to bring you updates all throughout the hour from Florida as they become available, but a criminal investigation -- let me repeat, ongoing as we speak. Now, whatever happens in Florida, there is one thing, I know the Democrats were all excited because they got control of the House of Representatives. By the way, the president in retrospect, now that he went out and fought for all those Senate candidates and Republicans picked up those seats in the Senate, by the way, turned the blue wave into a little baby blue trickle, because now Democrats are doing exactly what I told you they would do. They're now coming clean, the things they were saying on the campaign trail, about what their real plan is to wage what is a never ending full- scale investigation into anything and everything Donald Trump, to destroy this president. According to new reports, Pelosi and company -- get this -- they are planning to launch a subpoena cannon at the Trump White House, firing on all cylinders with a political hit list of nearly 100 targets, meaning 100 investigations. Tax returns, Stormy Daniels, James Comey, impeachments of Justice Kavanaugh, Shifty Schiff wants to actually investigates the president's treatment of CNN, "The Washington Post," Amazon. Democrats -- they are stopping at nothing to pursue the unhinged campaign to halt President Trump and his progress. By the way, that means our progress, that means America's progress. And, of course, this is a plan of endless investigations. By the way, very few facts. Nancy Pelosi actually saying Democrats don't need an indictment to move forward on their impeachment fantasies while she and other Democrats feel even more baseless hysteria about Mueller's Russia probe. House Democrats, they have been working over drive to now smear the acting attorney general, Matt Whitaker, which was the president's lawful choice, period. And don't forget Rod Rosenstein who's been running this whole thing is conflicted in multiple ways like signing the last FISA, writing the letter recommending that Comey get fired. But he's still been running it, they didn't care about his conflicts. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D-CA), RANKING MEMBER, INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: I want to make this very clear, if he doesn't recuse himself, if he has any involvement whatsoever in this Russia probe, we are going to find out whether he made commitments to the president about the probe, whether he is serving as a back channel to the president or his lawyers about the probe, whether he's doing anything to interfere with the probe, Mr. Whitaker needs to understand that he will be called to answer and any role that he plays will be exposed to the public. We don't want there to be any ambiguity about that. INTERVIEWER: You do not have any confidence in him as America's top enforcement officer? REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), MINORITY LEADER: No, I don't. And don't just take it from me. There is bipartisan editorializing about this that he should've never been appointed and it does violence to the Constitution and the mission of our founders to appoint such a person in such a matter to be the chief legal officer in our country. And that's bipartisan. REP. JERROLD NADLER (D), NEW YORK: I'll go further. His appointment is simply part of an attack on the investigation by Robert Mueller, the special counsel. It's part of a pattern of interference by the president and the part of pattern of obstruction of that, attempted obstruction of that investigation. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The only problem is no one is talking about meddling with the Mueller probe. Nobody. The president has had twice in the last week, no. So, ask yourself, the House Democrats -- is there a single agenda item that they are advocating that will make your life better? Anyone agenda item that's going to create more jobs, make this country safer, build a brighter future for our kids and our grandkids? Well, we know the answer tonight is no. It's all part of what I've been telling you, they've been hiding what their agenda is really all about. It slipped out occasionally and they tell everybody, stop, which is more mobilizing their political hit list. Get revenge. They didn't like the results of the 2016 election. By the way, they didn't like the results of this election. They want to shield their own deep state corruption and put this country's future at risk. What they ought to be focused on is our kids and our grandkids, and law and order, and equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws. And, yes, something called our Constitution. Yes, the document from which all laws originate from. Our founding Constitution. All right. We have a lot to get to tonight. We'll also talk about Georgia. We'll also talk more about this agenda of the Democrats as it's revealed. We are going to start with the legal side of all this. We'll talk to Gregg Jarrett, Andy McCartney on what has happened down in Florida. That and so much more as we continue this busy breaking news edition of "Hannity." (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GOV. RICK SCOTT (R), FLORIDA: My goal is that we follow the law, and what we've seen is, you know, the supervisor election in Broward and Palm Beach County, both of them, the courts have said they haven't followed the law. We know Brenda Snipes mixed illegal ballots with legal ballots. We know they have not let party officials in. The courts have said follow the law. So, what I'm trying to do is get them to do what we expect. The laws are set up there to prevent fraud and for whatever reason, they don't want to do it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That was Florida Governor Rick Scott earlier tonight, reacting to the latest developments in the Florida recount. Here with reaction to get the legal side of all of this, author of the number one "New York Times" best seller, "The Russian Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton, Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, and FOX News contributor Andy McCarthy. Let's start with -- we have civil violations of law and now we have the criminal investigation that has now begun with law enforcement, Attorney General Pam Bondi tonight. What are we possibly looking at legally, Gregg? GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Well, unfortunately, Florida law has no teeth. Most of the violations already committed by Brenda Snipes, who is the epitome of incompetence and recklessness are civil violations. So, the only penalties is a fine which she doesn't even pay that comes out of her office. It's true that there are felony statutes of fraud, there are about 20 of them in Florida. So far, three agencies in Florida say we have no evidence of fraud. But, Sean, their investigation is in a premature stage and only cursory so far. So, it's good that the Attorney General Pam Bondi is vowing in an extensive investigation. Snipes had the audacity to stand in front of cameras, I think it was today, and say, until now, nobody ever accused her of doing anything wrong, which is a lie. Every election she's been presiding over since 2002 has been marred in controversy. The question is, is she capable of corruption? Her track record suggests she is. HANNITY: Yes. Let me go to Andy. Look, it's not even a question laws were broken. We saw what the judge said on Friday night about the Florida Constitution, about laws in this particular case. But without rehashing what I've said in my opening monologue about Brenda Snipes' history, you have to wonder why she was there but more importantly, what do you see on the legal side? ANDY MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, Sean, I think you've hit on the right question right now at the start, why is she there? She really should not have been there presiding over this particular election given what her track record is. And, you know, look, we have a situation where in Governor Scott's case, somebody had a 50,000 lead on election night, it's down the 12,500. There could be good explanations for that. There could be corrupt explanations in that. And the problem is that the public has a right to know what is the explanation for it and the way that they conducted themselves, it makes it very difficult to give credit to this in terms of election system that has integrity. I think as you said at the end of your monologue, at the end of this, what we end up with is Senator Scott and Governor DeSantis because I think they're big leads are too big to be overcome even by rampant corruption and fraud if there is some. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Do we know if we have all the votes? Yes -- do we still have tens and thousands behind her back as we speak? You know, oh, I just happened to find another 20,000? MCCARTHY: Well, Sean -- right, but this is the thing. If you are behind, your motive, your incentive is to try to foment as much chaos as you can, and prevent there from being like a ceiling of where we know where the votes are, and they don't go any higher. And obviously if you are in front, as Scott and DeSantis are, what you want is some certainty. You want to say, you know, look, however the votes come out, they come out, but we at least need to know how many there are. HANNITY: We're never going to get, I can say with certainty tonight, number one, laws were violated. That's a fact. That's indisputable. Then we have the incident of Snipes mixing, rejected provisional ballots with legitimate provisional ballots, Gregg. We will never get a accurate count for Florida. It has already been tainted on many levels. Sixty-five of the 67 other counties, including the Panhandle -- if it's happened in the Panhandle, I might understand it. But if 65 counties continue to get it right in Florida, in 2012, 2014, '15, '16, and '17, the same players, the same nonsense, the same games, it is not fair to the rest of Florida what goes on here. JARRETT: It's not. And it tells you, Sean, that something is amiss here, when 65 counties can get it right. But just about every election, these two counties, Broward and Palm Beach can't. She missed, Brenda Snipes, every deadline that was set and everybody else met them. She comingled valid with invalid ballots. And astonishingly, tens and thousands of ballots suddenly and magically materialize out of nowhere with no proper accounting, no chain of custody. We have no idea when these ballots were casted and by whom. And so, you know, this has got the nefarious look of corruption written all over it. I'm not saying that fraud was perpetrated. But it does need to be investigated given her track record. HANNITY: Let's look at two specific issues, Andy, as we move forward. So, we have two different recounts really that are going on. There are two difference thresholds. One will be different in the governor's race because the threshold is higher. And as much as the vote disparity is greater. That would be a machine recount. MCCARTHY: Right. HANNITY: Then you've got they are going to look at I guess all of these provisional ballots. And there you have, we already have the attorneys for both Mayor Gillum and soon to be ex-Senator Nelson wanting to count the votes of illegal immigrants. They stood up and they literally advocated that those votes be counted. What are we supposed to do in that case? MCCARTHY: Well, Sean, this is where they are philosophically at, though. That they've been, you know, we have two different things going on here. We have the potential, procedural irregularity that applies to this particular election and then you have the overarching Democrat approach to government, which is to eviscerate the distinction between citizens and noncitizens. And we shouldn't be -- we shouldn't think for a moment that if you can wrap your brain around a procedural irregularity that their overarching agenda goes away. It doesn't. So, of course, they are going to take the position that none of the votes of people who might not properly be voting should not be counted because in their minds those people are just as legitimate to count as Americans voting are to count. And that's why that's a big reason why our electoral system is in the mess that it's in, you know, the fact that people whine over these-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Because after 2000-- MCCARTHY: -- for people who shouldn't be voting having their votes counted when we -- that means Americans who vote get their votes discounted. That's just as big of a problem. HANNITY: Gregg, I mean, this is 18 years after 2000. Tenfold (Ph) perforated, not perforated. Let me ask you this. Mark Elias, who you know so well-- JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: -- from this whole Perkins Coie issue -- he had a Virginia client ahead by a 165 votes, .0007 percent. Criticize Republicans for not conceding saying, the recount don't tend to change the results. A 165 vote difference. He had another client just up by 12,000 votes and said recount should only be done whether a dozen or a few hundred votes separating the candidates. It doesn't exactly sound like a man of deep-- JARRETT: No. HANNITY: -- abiding principles that cares about fairness and equality and justice under the law as it relates to elections. JARRETT: People should be suspicious when Hillary Clinton's lawyer who paid for Russian information is involved in any election recount. And that's Marc Elias. HANNITY: All right, guys. Thank you both for your analysis. The legal side of this is going to be very important as we move forward. And when we come back, we have more stunning examples, stunning incompetence and bias from the officials in charge of the elections in Broward County. Tammy Bruce, J. Christian Adams, also Matt Gaetz will join us what he witnessed this weekend. We have the videotape and more straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with more reaction to tonight's breaking news, Fox News contributor, Tammy Bruce, and former DOJ official, election lawyer at the Public Interest Legal Foundation, J. Christian Adams. J., you have been there, you've been following this. Let's go back to what you're seeing on the ground, what people need to know, how bad is this. And do you agree with Andy McCarthy's assessment that he doesn't believe it will ultimately impact the foreign final results, which is that Rick Scott will be the next senator and DeSantis will be the next senator? J. CHRISTIAN ADAMS, ELECTION LAWYER, PUBLIC INTEREST LEGAL FOUNDATION: Andy is right, recounts usually confirm the existing tally. But Sean, what you are seeing is astonishing incompetence. We sued Brenda Snipes for incompetence in maintaining the voter rolls. And I got to know her very well. I got to know her employees. She was my witness on the stand on a federal court trial where she admitted noncitizens are on the voter rolls in Broward. They're voting. She doesn't turn them in when she finds out about them. She admitted there are felons illegally voting. She doesn't call the police when she finds out about them. There are people on her voter rolls who are born, have birthdates when Grover Cleveland was president in Broward County. So, I got to see close up how incredibly incompetent both Brenda Snipes is as well as her entire staff. So, this is not just her, it's the whole office. HANNITY: Well, and we see that, Tammy, because it keeps happening year in and year out. This is nothing new. I go back to the simple point. And based on what J. Christian Adams is saying here, why is she there, but more importantly the rest of Florida is hurt by this and now they are being heard dramatically by this. And their vote ultimately is in jeopardy really in the end? TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Right. That every false vote, every illegitimate vote that's counted erases the vote of an American citizen. And that of course makes a mockery of the entire system. But I would take one issue with one word of our friend J. Christian about incompetence. This is intent. And I think that it's very important and Republicans and conservatives tend to expect the best of people. But the fact is the left, you can't presume that they mean well. They do not. And this is a matter of, you know, the end justifies the means. And it's about -- it's not even about winning. Winning of course implies that you follow the rules and you've persuaded people. This is about stealing power. And that's what we are seeing unfold here. And I have to say, you know, the problem with the FBI and DOJ, everything we've seen there with that corruption and the degree that they went to, to try to invalidate an American presidential election, I have to suggest that I think it's pretty obvious, that kind of a problem didn't just exist as an isolated issue within the federal government. I think it's throughout the system that now presumes is completely in charge and these elections are charades and that they're meant to give the impression to the American people that there vote counts, whereas in fact, you saw Hillary's reaction of the shocked that something didn't happened in a predetermined way. So, I think we have to take this very seriously and recognize. And look, you asked Rick Scott a night or two ago or maybe at the end of last week, why is she still there, because you know, he's been the governor. And he really didn't answer you. And that's what concerns me as well. The system allowing a woman like that to continue to operate. Because in a way this kind of chaos maybe suits the establishment in general, not just the Democrats. HANNITY: By the way, we are watching the recount as it takes place even as we speak, we expect by Wednesday that Ron DeSantis will be declared the winner. I think that it's the 19th, J. Christian, if I'm not wrong, that Rick Scott would be declared the winner in that particular race. But I want to go back to Brenda Snipes and her team and how many hours you spent and what other things you learned about her on top of that, which we already know? ADAMS: Look, Sean, the trial went on for two weeks. They were losing things. When we are in discovery, we ask for their manuals and procedures on how they keep the voter rolls claim. They couldn't find any. Until the third day of trial when they sprung it on us. And it's just astonishing levels of incompetence and chaos. I mean, you've never seen anything like it. And of course, they ascribed race, they said they were being sued because of racial issues. It's the same playbook we see everywhere. But I want to warn you, Palm Beach is going to be a problem. Palm Beach has outdated equipment. They can't do a paper ballot manual recount. By the way, paper ballots share a lot of the blame here too. It slows the system down. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What happens when they talk about over votes, and under votes, there is a mark over here but not over here where you're supposed to do it. They are going to say while the intent is there for that. And in the one case where they went before the judge and they literally, both Gillum and Nelson's lawyers said no, we want them to count. It was one vote, but one vote shows the lack of integrity? BRUCE: Look, I think this entire dynamic shows what Governor DeSantis is going to be up against, what he's going to do have to do and what Senator Scott is up against. They've got to clean this up. Florida is too important of a state. It affects the entire nation, and for every citizen, Democrat or Republican, the legitimacy of this election is key. Both of those men have to step up and take the Donald Trump approach of being street smart and working first for the American people. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I want to see. BRUCE: They are going to have the opportunity, I hope. HANNITY: Now that we know a criminal investigation is underway, I want o see everybody will now have to testify. Let's see if we can get to the bottom of this. The problem is you can't -- that's not going to be something it gets them very expeditiously. All right. Thank you both. When we come back, you're just not going to believe what happened over the weekend. What Democrats are planning to do by the way to Donald Trump now. We have Steve Scalise. Matt Gaetz his experience this week in Florida. We got the tape, that's next, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. As I explained to my opening monologue tonight, the House of Representatives is poised to become literally the Pelosi-destroy Trump House of Representatives. We got a sneak preview Sunday when a Democratic congresswoman from New York, Nita Lowey literally sat down with Axios. You got to watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The majority look into these issues related to President Trump that has come up, the space force. REP. NITA LOWEY, (D) NEW YORK: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: James Comey 'aspiring? LOWEY: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The travel ban. LOWEY: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The family separation policy. LOWEY: Absolutely. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hurricane relief in Puerto Rico? LOWEY: It was absolutely inadequate. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: White House staff use of personal e-mail. LOWEY: For sure. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president's business dealings abroad. LOWEY: Absolutely. And I want to see his tax returns. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: By the way, we're not like identifying everything they kept quiet. About a hundred issues they want to investigate, no plan to make your life better. I can only imagine what else they have in store. Also, tonight that Florida recount is on. Here's what happened to Congressman Matt Gaetz this weekend, literal stopped from viewing, he was filming. Ballots being transported. They stop the congressman from doing due diligence. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MATT GAETZ, (R) FLORIDA: Why can't we watch what's going on, man? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We were told you can't be here so you get that-- GAETZ: Who told you we can't watch what's going in and out of the truck? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My supervisor-- (CROSSTALK) GAETZ: Who is supervisor? Yes, I would love to see him. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Until then, let's go. GAETZ: All right. You tell me why we can't know what's going in and out of your truck. What's the name of your supervisor. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We all can take care of this. GAETZ: Do you know his or her name? The supervisor's name? Who -- what is their name? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We'll be watching you in a second. GAETZ: Do you know their name? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. GAETZ: What is it, you tell it to me? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'll bring that to you in second. GAETZ: What's on the truck? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Joining us now is Congressman Matt Gaetz along with the author of the brand-new game -- brand new book, I've read this book cover to cover, "Back in the Game: One Gunman, Countless Heroes, and the Fight for My Life," Republican House majority whip Steve Scalise is with us. Congrats on the book. I know you are still recovering. I know it's been very hard and we do know how close you came not to surviving that day. We are so glad you're here. Let's go to the Florida recount issue first. Matt, you represent the Panhandle. Twenty-seven days before this election, entire neighborhoods were wiped out. But on time, following Florida law, they got the job done. But as usual, Broward and Palm Beach, you went down on behalf of your constituents, I assume, because their votes shouldn't be, well, counterbalanced by something that's corrupt. Tell us what happened. GAETZ: Sean, you're absolutely right. I will be damned if the people in south Florida are going to dilute the legal votes of my constituents are who have a right to an honest, fair representative republic. In the video you just showed they were armed police, they were stopping me just from trying to get an accurate record of what was going in and out of the supervisor of elections office in the middle of the night. I don't know if it was furniture, I don't know if it was election equipment, ballots. What I do know is that there is no chain of custody for 80,000 ballots. Those ballots reach five pages long, so you're looking at over 404,000 pages of information-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But why did they-- GAETZ: I don't know. HANNITY: You're outside, and not inside. GAETZ: I'm still waiting to hear from the supervisor! No. And look, I mean, what are we afraid of? We had the Palm Beach supervisor of elections tell the media that if they didn't turn their cameras off, she was going to have them arrested. That's the type of thing you would expect in a communist or fascist dictatorship. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What's the name, Jim Acosta think they respond differently. And even if they weren't being rude. GAETZ: Listen, if I was Jim Acosta, this would be viewed as a human rights violation. HANNITY: yes. GAETZ: But because I'm a congressman trying to represent my constituents, I was told that I couldn't get an accurate record of what was going on and now, no chain of custody for ballots. HANNITY: Unbelievable. That means we -- how could you have any faith in it coming out days after the election, violating law after law? Congressman Scalise, you just heard Nita Lowey. We've been hearing from Nadler. We've been hearing from Schiff. We've been hearing from Maxine Waters. We've identified -- Axios identified 85, at least 100 investigations. How do you stop what is obviously the Pelosi- destroy Trump at all costs subpoena brigade? REP. STEVE SCALISE, (R) LOUISIANA: well, Sean, first of all, I think that they go down this road at their own peril. President Trump just followed through on all the things he promised he would do. It's frankly it's why the left doesn't like him so much. But it's also why in every place I would go to, every swing district I would go to, you would see thousands of people showing up for Trump rallies. President Trump would go to a place and there would not only be a packed house of 15,000 person arena, but they would be another 15,000 people waiting outside because they love what he's done to get this country and this economy back on track. And you look at the Senate seat that he was able to flip, the Democrat seats that are now Republican Senate seats because of President Trump's leadership. HANNITY: Yes. Well, if-- (CROSSTALK) SCALISE: And so, if they want to have this agenda, Sean, where they just want to harass the president. I think it's going to backfire on them like what happened with the Kavanaugh hearing. HANNITY: And look what happened in 2010 with Obama his first midterm, six Senate seats lost, six, 62 House seats, that was 69 in total. In 1994, eight Senate seats, 52 House seats. And I think Matt Gaetz was saying, we're learning tonight good thing Donald Trump worked hard and picked up those Senate seats and we won those races. GAETZ: Yes. Donald Trump is pretty good at winning states and that's what presidential reelection will be all about. President Trump's coalition clearly involves creating massive turnout in areas where he's popular. You know, he embraced the challenge of this midterm unlike any president in modern history. Now we've got to make sure that the strategy of the resistance doesn't metastasize from obstruction in Congress to stealing elections. That's why the work we're doing in Florida is so important. HANNITY: Yes. GAETZ: I don't want to give the Democrats any opening in the future to go and do that. HANNITY: All right. I want to thank you both. By the way, Steve, I did read your book. It's "Back in the Game: One Gunman, Countless Heroes, the Fight for My Life." Amazon.com. I hope people got a copy of it. It describes so many great heroes. Thank you. All right. When we come back, Congressman-elect Dan Crenshaw appeared on Saturday Night Live this weekend after one of the comedians actually mocked his war wounds. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. So last weekend, Saturday Night Live's Pete Davidson widely criticized for mocking Republican congressional candidate Dan Crenshaw. He lost an eye due to an IED injury while he was serving this country in Afghanistan. Well, this weekend Dan Crenshaw appeared on Saturday Night Live where he accepted the comedian's apology and had a really important message for all of us. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PETE DAVIDSON, COMEDIAN: I mean this from the bottom of my heart, it was a poor choice of words. The man is a war hero and he deserve all the respect in the world. I just wanted to say for people that don't know, the reason you are wearing an eye patch right now is that you lost your eye to an IED in Afghanistan during your third combat tour. I'm sorry. DAN CRENSHAW (R), CONGRESSMAN-ELECT, TEXAS: Thank you, Pete. I appreciate you saying that. DAVIDSON: So, are we good? CRENSHAW: We're good. Apology accepted. There is a lot of lessons to learn here, not just that the left and right can still agree on some things, but also this, Americans can forgive one another. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Really, really class act. Anyway, this Veterans Day, I do want to take a moment and acknowledge the great, great sacrifices that our military has made every single day. They protect our freedom, our liberty, our Constitution, our way of life that we often take for granted. We want to thank every woman -- men and women in uniform, past and present, thank you. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham, taking it away. Load-Date: November 13, 2018 End of Document Florida Recount Process Is Underway As Six Lawsuits Have Been Filed By Both Rick Scott And Bill Nelson In The Senate Race; Palm Beach County Might Not Meet The Deadline Saying Their Equipment Is Not Designed For The Recount To Meet The Deadline; Michelle Obama Publishes Memoir; French President Macron Gives Speech Critical of Nationalism; Organization Making Efforts To Save Animals From California Wildfires Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 12, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7748 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Phil Keating, Monica Crowley, Guests: Lizbeth Benacquisto, Shari McCartney, John Eastman, Miguel de Grandy; Candace Owens, Rochelle Ritchie, Yoram Hazony, Mark Simakovsky, Rachel Shackelford Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: They protect our freedom, our liberty, our constitution, our way of life that we often take for granted. I want to thank every woman -- men and women in uniform, past and present. Thank you. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham taking it away. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, great to see you. By the way, I think you should wear one of those salmon color hoodies that Davidson wore on Saturday Night Live. I mean, what if you just came out one night and you did the whole opening, breaking news monologue, in that salmon color hoodie? That would be cool. HANNITY: You are breaking up on me. You're causing trouble. La, la, la, you're breaking up. I can't hear you. Hello? INGRAHAM: You always do that! When I do a good joke, you always do that. You always say you can't -- it's like that old the commercial, can't hear you, water running. Remember that from long time ago? HANNITY: Hang on, the water is running -- Marco Rubio moment. And by the way, Marco did warn us about all of this. He was the first. Pretty scary what's happened down there. INGRAHAM: Oh my god, he's been great. Hannity, aren't you having a flashback, though? Remember we were on the air in the 2000 recount and kept going back and forth all night long? I think I was on the air with -- HANNITY: Dimpled. Perforated, you know, scattered, smothered and covered. I mean, it's just is -- INGRAHAM: The question is why haven't they learned anything between from now -- Sean: Eighteen years ago. INGRAHAM: No, no, no, it's pathetic. But you had a fantastic show as always tonight, Hannity. Thanks so much. HANNITY: Have a great show, Laura. Good to see you as always. All right, I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington tonight. There are a flurry of lawsuits in the Florida recount battle. Hannity talked about some of them, and in moments, a live report from outside the Broward County Election Center. We are also going to talk to experts there on the ground. Also, in tonight's ANGLE, you do not want to miss this one, Michelle Obama's new memoir targets Trump, race, and her own marriage. Well, you will hear my take on what the book is really all about ahead of the heated debate we're going to have on that topic. French President Emmanuel Macron is the latest to hit Trump over the embrace of nationalism. An expert tells us why Trump is right and the French are oh so wrong. But we start tonight on the ground in Florida where Republicans Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis still cling the razor thin leads. Here to give us the latest is Fox News correspondent Phil Keating outside the Broward County election's board, Phil. PHIL KEATING, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Laura, some Florida counties have already totally completed the recounts, however, not in Broward County nor in Palm Beach County. Here in Broward County, the actual recounting of the votes has still has not even begun. Looking live inside the Broward County Election's Departments tabulation center, workers are still running 3.5 million pages, sorting out the first pages from the ballots which have the actual recount races on them. Once that is done, Broward will then run 800,000 ballots through a dozen tabulation machines. The Florida senate race between Republican Governor Rick Scott and incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson has Scott leading by just 12,000 votes out of 8 million cast. That's after round one. Six lawsuits in total have been filed by these two candidates, four by Scott, two by Nelson. A Broward judge denied Scott's motion today to add state cops inside the recount room and impound machines and ballots were not in use. However, the judge did decide to add three more Broward sheriff's deputies just to make sure everything is secure and running properly. The governor's race not as close as the senate race with former Congressman Ron DeSantis leading Tallahassee Democratic mayor Andrew Gillum by 33,000 votes. Both parties really want their man in the governor's mansion, seeing that as an edge in this toss-up state that is so close, so close we have three statewide recounts going on here. That's happening two years from now, the next presidential election. DeSantis is already acting as governor-elect, assembling a transition team and looking at the offices in Tallahassee. Meanwhile, Democratic Gillum conceded on Tuesday night but then he took that back over the weekend once the numbers started closing the gap. And even though he says his odds of winning this recount are incredibly small, he says every vote still deserves to be counted. The recount deadline statewide, this is Florida statute, is Thursday 3:00 p.m. All 67 counties must have the recount numbers in or, according to law, those votes won't be counted. Broward is confident they will make that. However, up and Palm Beach County where they have older machines which can only recount one race at a time, they do seriously worry that they cannot make the Thursday deadline, Laura. INGRAHAM: Phil, thanks so much. And here now are two people with inside knowledge of how this wacky Florida election system work, specifically as they relate to Broward and once again Palm Beach County. Republican Lizbeth Benacquisto is rules chair for the Florida State Senate and Shari McCartney is an election lawyer in Broward. Shari, let me start with you. What should the viewers at home need to understand? What do they need to understand tonight about these persistent problems all these years later in Broward County? SHARI MCCARTNEY, ELECTION LAWYER: Well, hi, Laura. You know, I just left the supervisor of elections office and I can tell you that the tens of thousands of ballots are being run through machines through the night, we've yet to begin the recount process here. INGRAHAM: Wait a second. Wait a second. So, it's supposed to be finished by Thursday and yet the mandated recount in Broward County has not yet begun? How is this the 21st century in the most technologically advanced country on the planet? How is this still possible? MCCARTNEY: Well, you know, process and procedure are central to an election. In fact, it's everything and when that's lacking or procedure be lacking, this is what results. You know, I worked on the recount in 2000 and some things are different and frankly some things stay the same. INGRAHAM: Well, what are the things that have changed that should give Floridians and frankly all Americans across the country watching this because so much always seems to hinge on Florida? What should give them faith in the system tonight? MCCARTNEY: Well, first and foremost, we know longer have chads so we are not dealing with hanging chads or pregnant chads or any kind of manual vision where we have to hold it up with a magnifying glass. We're dealing with scantron's and bubbling. And so we'll have under votes and we'll have over votes but there will be a lot less possibility for manipulation and problems like that. I have to tell you that I'm convinced that once this is done, the result that we had on Tuesday night will stand. INGRAHAM: Alright, Shari, let's go to you. Palm Beach County -- Lizbeth, let's go to you, Palm Beach County, Susan Bucher who is the election supervisors there said the following about the Thursday 3:00 p.m. deadline. Again, this is Palm Beach County. She said, "Our equipment is not designed to meet the deadline and we've been complaining to the state for almost 10 years and they never extended the deadline. We'll give it our best shot effort, but what we need to do is machine recount all of our ballots to find the over and under votes." And then she said she didn't know whether she thought, you know, they would miss the deadline or not. Again, same question, we are asking about Palm Beach County. I mean, again, the money they've poured into the electoral process in Florida, yet we are still back at oh, the machines aren't good enough. I just -- I find this whole thing both sad and uproariously funny if it weren't so important. LIZABETH BENACQUISTO: Well, thank you for having me, Laura, but the truth is it's unacceptable. And when the supervisor of elections of Palm Beach County raised her right hand, took an oath to follow the law, it wasn't when it was convenient. It wasn't when it was easy. It was every time. And we have every expectation that she will meet the deadline and perform as she has sworn her obligation to do. INGRAHAM: Shari, let's go back to you because Brenda Snipes has spoken out and she said this after all the questions, which Jeb Bush tweeted today saying she should step aside in Broward County. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRENDA SNIPES, ELECTION SUPERVISOR, BROWARD COUNTY: The lawsuits as they ar written certainly cast aspersions on my character and we have rebuild character over a period of time and character is always on display. And I've worked here for about 15 years and I have to say, this is the first time that this office or I have been under such attacks. So, if we make mistakes, we own mistakes. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, Shari, this is the first time we have ever heard a complaint about Brenda Snipes, OK? And President Obama is going to run for senate as a conservative in some state, OK. It's like craziness! MCCARTNEY: Well, yes, I was there today when she said that. And you know, I think she's sincere in what she says and she truly believes it, but the fact remains that it seems incredibly ad hoc. There don't seem to be formal process and procedure. If there are, they certainly do not seem to be being followed. And when you have that, you are naturally going to have the chaos and the resulting, you know, confusion and basically a sense of crisis in our election system. INGRAHAM: Yes. Well, conventional wisdom is that she's done, Snipes is done and Scott and DeSantis, presuming they hold onto their slim leads, that they are going to move quickly to replace her, is that accurate senator (ph)? MCCARTNEY: I truly believe that governor-elect DeSantis will work with a legislator to make sure that we undertake all necessary and appropriate updates and changes to the electoral laws and make sure that we have a system in place that instills confidence in the resident's of the state of Florida. INGRAHAM: Yes, I mean, Floridians at this point, it's just about your pride, OK. We just got to get your pride back and just fix this. Republican, Democrat, it doesn't matter. Just fix this so this ridiculous situation does not occur for up and next election. We appreciate both of you being on tonight. And just today, Governor Rick Scott coming under fire, two different fronts. First, a group of Florida voters and organizations filed a lawsuit alleging that Scott has illegally abused his power as governor to swing the outcome of his race. And second, his opponent, incumbent Democratic Senator Bill Nelson is calling for his recusal. Watch. We don't have it so we are going to just keep going. So joining me now, constitutional law expert Professor John Eastman and Miguel de Grandy, a recount expert who worked on the successful Bush 2000 team down in Florida. John, the state judge, Jeff Tutor, admonished Governor Scott today for suggesting voter fraud occurred in this race saying, "Everything the lawyers are out there saying out there in front of the elections office is being beamed all over the country. We need to be careful of what we say. Words mean things these days." So John, are Republicans exaggerating this? JOHN EASTMAN, LAW PROFESSOR, CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY: I don't think they are exaggerating and I am one of the lawyers suing Brenda Snipes right now. What we found is that they do not clear there voter rolls for illegal citizens. They don't clean them for felons. They don't clean them for people who die out of state. They do check for people who die in state, but guess what? A lot of Floridians had two residences. And you know, it's just unconscionable that they are not cleaning those rolls. The reason that is so significant is that it creates an opportunity for fraud. And when they've uncovered 80,000 ballots after election night, you know, because they wanted to narrow the race, you know, you just got to raise some real serious red flags. INGRAHAM: When people think 80,000 ballots and they think this is the United States of America -- if Jimmy Carter had gone to some foreign country and you had heard about these types of things happening, Jimmy Carter would be giving a speech about how this is like a bloodless coup going on in a particular country's important political race. EASTMAN: That's right. I think the Ugandan delegation is going to come watch our Florida elections on the next one. INGRAHAM: Maybe they should be the observer. Miguel, is John overstating this because to listen to some of the other types on other networks, this is just outrageous that there is anyone out there alleging voter fraud. This is just a process, Miguel, and the process says to go on, and maybe it takes a little while. But "every vote must be counted." Is that really what's going on here? MIGEUL DE GRANDY, FLORISA RECOUNT PROCESS: We do agree that every vote must be counted, but when you do things behind closed doors, when you do not report periodically as you are supposed to, when you deny access to people to witness in the election process which our law by the way requires that it be witnessed, then you do sow doubts in the electorate as to the integrity of the election. Some things we know so far, we know 22 illegal votes were mixed with votes that were valid votes. That can't be taken back because those are anonymous. We know that a loose one noncitizen voted and that the Gillum campaign was advocating to have that vote count. And so when there is irregularities that occur, when there is no public viewing of the process, it does create questions. INGRAHAM: Well, when I say every vote must count that such a noble, you know, blanket statement. It's a great sentiment. But John, isn't it true that every legal vote must count, and the rules have to apply across the board regardless of what outcome you wish in the end? EASTMAN: Now, that's right and I will give you one example. A court decision in August against Brenda Snipes -- I was intrigued by her saying that she has never made a mistake before. They were opening absentee ballots unsupervised in secret. The reason that significant is you've got to verify that the absentee ballot is from a legal voter before that ballot is taken out and put into the anonymous box where you can't otherwise pull it back. And she was doing this and got an injunction issued against her to stop that. These are the kind of things that are routinely going on down there and that's a problem. We learned it in 2000. We learned about dimpled ballots that cannot be dimpled without breaking the thing unless you packed in several ballots at once. I mean these are the kind of things that have been going on there way too long. INGRAHAM: Miguel, and so there are some of the smaller races, well, that are very significant positions in Florida have also been affected by this. After trailing Republican Matt Caldwell after Tuesday's vote for the agricultural commissioner, which is a big position in Florida, has enormous significance in policymaking in the state. Democrat Nikki Fried now leads him by 5,326 votes. So, they found those votes too! How is this possible that you are finding votes all these days after an election? DE GRANDY: That's a big question mark and we are trying to find out. The bottom line right now is that the votes that were reported Saturday are the universal votes. They are going to be subject to the recount. We have the governor trailing by -- the governor-elect trailing by 34,000 votes. The senator-elect trailing by 12,000 votes. I do not think a recount is going to make a difference in this case even if you bring in -- INGRAHAM: Rarely does, correct? Yes, they rarely make a any difference. Swings 100 to 200 votes either way. DE GRANDY: Yes, and even if you bring in the votes that are subject to the lawsuit in the panhandle, you are talking about 2,000 votes. That's not going to swing this election. And the important thing is to make sure that there are a lot of eyes on this process from this moment on. INGRAHAM: Well John, we're talking about so many ways Republicans could have handled this in the years leading up to this. To me, it's a swing and a miss for Rick Scott who I think has been a phenomenal governor. Why wasn't this cleaned up? I got so many radio callers say why isn't this cleaned up by now. Brenda Snipes by the way, Andrea Mitchell said she was a Republican today -- no, she was appointed by a Republican. Bush, who's now said she should be -- EASTMAN: She was re-appointed by Jeb Bush but after another election scandal when they found hundreds of ballots -- INGRAHAM: Registered Democrats. EASTMAN: Yes, hundreds of ballots stuffed into a drawer. They weren't ever counted. Look, there are two things here. One, the reason we keep adding new accounts is because they are accepting absentee ballots that come in after the legal deadline. That's a violation of Florida law. INGRAHAM: Why is that a violation of the voting rights act? EASTMAN: Well, it is. INGRAHAM: Why does it not cancel out lawful votes? EASTMAN: It does lawful votes. And then the second thing is, we don't have any chain of custody. I mean anybody that watches any crime show knows about the chain of custody evidence We ought to be applying the same principle of the chain of custody. INGRAHAM: The integrity of every document, every ballot must be insured. EASTMAN: And it ought not to go outside the office without both a Democrat and a Republican watching where it goes. INGRAHAM: Well, this happened -- are you concerned this could happen going forward in 2020? ASTMAN: I am very concerned and, you know, one of the reasons we have the National Voter Registration Act and the Help America Vote Act was to provide money to the states to make sure this stuff did not happen again and here it is. INGRAHAM: Yes. It seems like some of it was wasted. Gentlemen, thank you so much. And up next, my ANGLE takes on Michelle Obama's new memoir. Stay right there. (COMMECIAL BREAK) INGRAHAM: Becoming or unbecoming? That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Michelle Obama's rolling out her new memoir titled "Becoming" with the exactly the sort of fanfare we've come to expect from the Obama's 13-city book tour, and touchy-feeling arena interviews by celebrity moderators. Today, the former first lady gave a pre-launch sit down with "GMA's" Robin Roberts. And the issue of race figured prominently. Even when Mrs. Obama spoke of meeting her husband. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROBIN ROBERTS, ABC HOST: He comes blowing into town, a little bit famous already, late for the first meeting. MICHELLE OBAMA, FORMER FIRST LADY: Late. Late. I was like, is he trifling? Does the black man's going to be late on the first date? I'm like --- ROBERTS: You went weren't overtly impressed in the beginning? M. OBAMA: I wasn't, you know, I had my suspicions when a bunch of white folks falling over a black man because I sort of think, OK, he can talk straight, so they think he's wonderful. So, that was my theory. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Stereotyping much? Well, for all of her beauty, her glamour, her obvious accomplishments, the former first lady just can't get past race. It's like a loop that almost seems to play on her head, one that surfaces repeatedly in her public comments? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROBERTS: What do you wish you could tell your pre-White House self? M. OBAMA: You know, the hard parts were the things that I expected. That it was going to be hard, you know. So much of this country lives in isolation and we just don't know each other. And so there were people who didn't know what a black woman was and sounded like. So, I knew that was going to be a challenge, that I would have to earn my grace. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Wait, wait, wait. Americans didn't know what a black woman was and sounded like? What America is that? Long before anyone had ever heard of Barack or Michelle Obama, America had already made enormous progress vis-a-vis race. Think about it. Some of the biggest names in business, medicine, the law, entertainment, sports, and media are African-American. But, of course, this isn't the first time we've heard Mrs. Obama share her feelings about America. Remember this comment she made after her husband won the nomination in 2008. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) M.OBAMA: Let me tell you something. For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was before she won the nomination, but you get the point. Again, until the Obamas showed up, America was in sad shape racially. At least we've led to believe that. Well, contrary to her well-cultivated public image, Michelle Obama from her earliest years at Princeton was extremely political. Well, that's fine. No big deal. And she grew up in a middle-class Chicago household. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) M.OBAMA: Across the street, I usually meet my friend Terry Johnson right in front of that garage. This is my block. ROBERTS: Three generations of Robinson's lived here on Euclid Avenue, a home owned by Michelle's great Aunt Robbie and Uncle Terry. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, she was a daughter of a Democrat ward boss and she worked her way up to the Ivy League. Laudable no doubt. But contrast the (inaudible) media coverage of Michelle's personal story with the way another black female brainiac had been treated over the years, conservative scholar Condoleezza Rice. Now, Rice grew up in far worse conditions, in the segregated south. She would earn degrees from the University of Denver, Notre Dame, and a fellowship at Stanford University where she eventually became a professor and a provost. Oh, and she did become the first female African-American Secretary of State in 2005 long before anyone heard of Michelle or Barack Obama. Now, I guess Condoleezza was just unable to show us what a prominent woman was like or sounded like. Again, it's all who tells the story. I mean, Michelle Obama collected more magazine covers than vegetables from that White House garden. While a real cover girl, First Lady in Melania Trump, of course, supermodel, is lucky if she gets her picture in the "Parade" magazine insert. This Michelle Obama book launch, when you really think about it, is just one more example of someone cashing in for trashing Donald Trump. And also of course it helps set the table for 2020. The Obama's still want to be the big power brokers in the Democratic Party, and Michelle is a global superstar, so she helps frame the issues for Democratic Party still straddling the old and the new. In the aftermath of the election, Hillary Clinton tried to explain remember, why 52 percent of white women voted for Donald Trump. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Due to ongoing pressure to vote the way that your husband, your boss, your son, whoever, believes you should. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, Michelle Obama takes that snide condescension a step further, writing in her memoir "Becoming," "I will always wonder about what led so many women in particular to reject an exceptionally qualified female candidate and instead choose a misogynist as their president." Very nice. Now, remember, she wasn't paid that huge advanced that she got for her book to share fashion tips or pumpkin pie recipes, but to deliver body blows to Trump with a velvet glove. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) M.OBAMA: I said what I continued to say. Being a commander-in-chief is a hard job and you need to have discipline and you need to read and you need to be knowledgeable. You need to know history. You need to be careful with your words. But voters make those decisions and once the voters have spoken, you know, we live with what we live with. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Drat. Democracy. Well, Michelle Obama's attack on the president and her dismissive writing, writing off a whole chunk of the American electorate and a sizable group of women that she claims that she cares so much about, may be it's surprising to some but it's really not unexpected. She is for all of her protestations a political actor. But wrapped in the glittery embrace of celebrity, Michelle hopes women will look pass some of that along the edges, some of it acidic of her memoir, because Oprah today named it one of her book club picks. But if Michelle Obama continues the divisive and racially obsessed politics she's been pedaling in advance of this release, readers may consider it one of their least favorite things. And they may even find some of her political commentary unbecoming. And that's THE ANGLE. All right, up next, can't miss reaction to THE ANGLE and Michelle Obama's intentions in this book from Candace Owens, Monica Crowley, and Michelle Ritchie. Don't move. INGRAHAM: Here to respond to my ANGLE, Candace Owens, communications director for Turning Points USA, Monica Crowley, senior columnist for "The Washington Times," and Democratic strategist Rochelle Ritchie. Candace, are these political swipes and reworked old stories, are they really worth the half of the reported $65 million advance that Michelle Obama was paid for her memoir by Crown Publishing? CANDACE OWENS, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, TURNING POINTS USA: I think to the Democrat Party, they are definitely worth it. These are the same tired and baseless accusations that everybody says when they want to sell books. We saw this from Michael Wolff, we saw this from Omarosa. They are constantly using the president and trying to feed the divisive rhetoric that's already out there in the media. But I take great exception to the idea that our president, this tired, baseless accusation, that he's a misogynist. Misogyny does not appoint Sarah Sanders. Misogyny does not appoint Kellyanne Conway. Misogyny does not appoint everybody on his staff that we are seeing that is being led by women. But it's really ridiculous and it's tired, but it's really unbecoming especially coming from a former administration to constantly verbally assault this president. INGRAHAM: Rochelle, it's interesting coming from someone who's such a global celebrity as Michelle Obama to hear her sound I would say rather ordinary in her criticism of the president. What she said about the president, without necessarily mentioning his name, was what you would hear on one of the other cable networks. Morning, noon, night, you could pick that out of the commentary you hear from all the Trump haters on the other cables. So how does that really distinguish Michelle Obama from any garden-variety leftist? ROCHELLE RITCHIE, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Look, Laura, I think it's no surprised that I'm the only person on this panel right now who's really excited to actually read Michelle Obama's book. I think she's an exceptional woman. I think that she serves as a great example to women all across the world, that our ticket to success is our brains and not our body. And I think that she's simply telling her truth. The xenophobic accusations that were hurled at her husband were definitely offensive, and as she mentioned in her book, it put her family at risk. And I think she's just being very candid and very honest. This is one portion of the book where she is talking about Trump. It's not entirely about Trump. So I don't see really the problem with her writing this book, and I think many more first ladies, I'm sure first lady Melania Trump will come out with a book and she will share her personal feelings what it was like to be in a Trump White House. So I'm not really sure why there is so much anger and hatred as far as Michelle Obama coming out and sharing her truth. INGRAHAM: It's not anger. It's certainly not hatred. We have nothing personally against the first lady, and I think she's extremely impressive as an individual, as a mother, as a spokesperson for what she believes in. So I think she's very impressive. We are talking something that they decided to sell this book with. Trump-trashing is a cash-in scenario, Monica. When you trash Trump -- and you could say the same thing about people criticizing Obama early on in the presidency, be fair here. But you trash Trump, you get a big advance. Why is that interesting? That's my point. It's interesting to hear about her growing up, I guess maybe how she met Barack, although we've heard those stories before. But Trump is a racist, Trump is a misogynist, Trump is a misogynist -- OK. We've been hearing that now for years. MONICA CROWLEY, COLUMNIST, "THE WASHINGTON TIMES": Right. And it's boring and predictable, and that's why it's so disappointing to hear it from the former first lady. There used to be a rule, Laura, that if you had nothing nice to say about someone, don't say anything at all. And that rule was also supposed to extend to former presidents, their wives, and others in a president's inner circle. And Mr. Obama's predecessors have abided by that rule, but neither the former president nor the first lady have. And I wonder if she has some political ambitions of her own, which is why she thinks she can stake out this ground in attacking the president. But I also think both of them were so concerned when President Trump was elected that their entire legacy was about to go out the window. We were told for eight years by the Obamas and everyone in their administration was that the new normal was high unemployment and the loss of manufacturing jobs and anemic economic growth and American decline and the globalist march, all these things were inevitable. President Trump have put the lie to all that. And so I think what you are seeing is enormous frustration and lashing out on the part of Mrs. Obama and, frankly, everybody in the Obama administration. INGRAHAM: I want to play for you something from Zerlina Maxwell, I'll go do Candace on this. And she was on MSNBC today on this very subject. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ZERLINA MAXWELL, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF PROGRESSIVE PROGRAMMING FOR SIRIUS XM: I agree with her. The fact we elected someone who had no qualifications to be a president who was running against a woman with a laundry list of qualifications to be president, and instead America, or the electorate, chose to give the Electoral College to the person with no experience who happened to be a man just like all of the other presidents. So what Michelle Obama is highlighting is the fact that that that in it of itself is misogynistic and sexist, and perhaps as a country we should take a moment to reflect on that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Again, woman who voted for Trump are either dumb or they are just following their husbands, and we are not going to offer any ideas, Candace, about how to raise the standard of living for the average American. We're just going to call people misogynist, racist, xenophobic, nativist, all the ists and all the isms. They are all worn out, forget the actual debating of ideas. OWENS: That's exactly correct. And look, you're right. It is frustration, it is fatigue. They're not offering anything of substance. There's no ideological debate taking place. It has been proven now. OK, you were apprehensive in the beginning about Trump and his lack of experience in the realm of politics. But it's now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that this president has been tremendously successful. So at this point it feels a bit like whining. And I think just as Americans, we are ready to move on from this concept of everybody has to be an ism if they don't think like me. You don't elect somebody because they are a woman. You elect somebody because they are best person suited for the job. And up against Hillary Clinton President Trump was a much stronger candidate. He ran a better campaign and that's why he's sitting in the Oval Office today. INGRAHAM: Rochelle, do you think that the press has treated Melania in the same way that they treated Michelle? RITCHIE: Look, no. I don't think they have, and I can be honest about that. When we look at how Michelle Obama was treated, she was treated in a very different way. But I think that's because her husband was also not pushing forward a very divisive rhetoric in the press, and her husband was not attacking the press. And this is something -- Melania is not innocent in this at all, either, when it comes to this whole birther issue which she also pedaled for her husband. So no, they haven't treated her fairly, but at the same time I think they are looking at the sort of administration, the sort of rhetoric that is coming from her husband, and it's not attractive to them. INGRAHAM: Are you aware of the polls at the end of the Obama administration about whether the country felt like his eight years in office had united the country, are you aware of those, Rochelle? RITCHIE: What I'm aware of is that 77 percent of the country right now in the polls that came out just before the midterm elections says that the country feels that they are more divisive. I am aware of that poll. INGRAHAM: I understand that. But what I'm trying to say, and Monica, I'm sure you're aware of this, that there was a wild percentage of Americans who believed that the Obama presidency was not a uniting force in America. Despite all the promise and the historic nature of his presidency, people felt like the country was more divided and less united, and angrier. And this was not a "Daily Caller" poll. I think it was AP or "Washington Post." Forgive me for not having it off the top of my head. I did it today on radio. But Monica, so the idea that Trump is the great divisive factor in America, it's not how a lot of people felt at the end of eight years of Obama, which is why in part they elected Trump. CROWLEY: That's exactly right. And what we saw over eight years with President Obama is that while he was personally popular, people appreciated the fact that he was an exceptional character, the first African-American president and they were a proud of that fact, his policies were wholly unpopular. And in some ways that's the mirror image where personally he is not so popular, but his policies are incredibly popular. And getting back to the Melania issue, any Republican first lady is going to be treated like this, Laura. It's just a fact of the double standard life in America, unfortunately. And it's really unfair to her. But I think Americans by and large are sick of the double standard, and that's why -- INGRAHAM: It's apparent. CROWLEY: -- continuing support for President Trump because he's trying to smash it. INGRAHAM: It's apparent. And Candace, we're almost out of time, but the Bushs did not criticize the Obamas. They didn't. OWENS: That's correct. RITCHIE: Why would they? Why would they? I'm sorry. I know you're talking to Candace. INGRAHAM: Because they doubled the debt. Because we had Benghazi, because Obamacare was a cramdown, let me count the ways. RITCHIE: But they also didn't question whether or not Obama was born in this country. I don't even you can make that kind -- OWENS: These are cheap shots. I'm going to finish my -- it's them trying to resuscitate their relevancy, because, unfortunately, this president has laid slaughter to the Obama legacy and that's what's going on. RITCHIE: No, not at all. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, thanks so much. And President Trump called out once again for his embrace of nationalism by the leader of a country who has benefited from American power, of course. The foremost intellectual on nationalism is here to answer Emmanuel Macron, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: They have a word. It sort of became old-fashioned. It's called a nationalist. And I say really, we're not supposed to use that word? You know what I am? I'm a nationalist, OK. I'm a nationalist. (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: President Trump has defended his use of the term "nationalism" as an intense love of one's country. But leftist commentators and other internationalists say it's a dog whistle to white supremacists. And now on an occasion commemorating the 100 year anniversary of the armistice ending World War I, French President Emmanuel Macron has joined the fray. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) EMMANUEL MACRON, FRENCH PRESIDENT (through translator): Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism. Nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism by saying our interests first, who cares about the others? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me now, Yoram Hazony. He's the author of the book "The Virtue of Nationalism," and Mark Simakovsky, former NATO chief of staff. Yoram, let me start with you. What does Macron get wrong here about nationalism? YORAM HAZONY, PRESIDENT, THE HERZL INSTITUTE: Well, Laura, Macron is pursuing the same agenda that he's repeatedly since he was elected president of France a year-and-a-half ago. Just in October at the United Nations, Macron told us he deplores a world that he calls a world of lawlessness in which everyone pursues their own interest. Macron has a problem with the idea of national interest. He says that national interest is national selfishness. And now he's telling President Trump that to be a nationalist and to pursue your own interest is a betrayal of moral values. INGRAHAM: All right, Mark, this is what Christian (ph) Whitten (ph) is saying about Macron's commentary. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think Macron within the E.U. is under a lot of pressure. Frankly, Germany is willing to cut a deal on the trade changes that Trump wants, to lower tariffs across the board. Macron doesn't like that. He doesn't like the pressure. He doesn't like having to spend more on the military. He doesn't like the fact that Italy is, along with Britain, peeling away from the E.U., not quite as directly, yet. Eastern Europe, not as kosher on the E.U. So a lot of these things just aren't going the way that this form this former investment banker would like them to go. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Mark, if globalism of the sort that Macron loves, and internationalism, was helping the average German or Frenchman, there wouldn't be a backlash against internationalism or globalism. There would be let's do more of it. But they are under enormous pressure, are they not? MARK SIMAKOVSKY, FORMER NATO CHIEF OF STAFF: They absolutely are. I think this speech, there's two parts of the speech. One is Macron is a encapsulating himself as an opponent of Trump, and he's betting that the French people believe and are supportive of an anti-Trump -- INGRAHAM: As a national front pushing back on him. Obviously, they've had gains in recent polls and recent local elections. SIMAKOVSKY: And this is risky for Macron because he has European elections coming up next year which will be the first barometer for his own term. He's trying to put himself in polar opposite to Trump. And of course, he's isolated because Mrs. Merkel's also political ambitions are on the decline. But also I think this was a warning. This speech was a warning to those that believe that the nationalism and populism that fueled World War One is the rise and is a danger to the European continent. I think he was brave in making that statement at the speech. INGRAHAM: Yoram, this is what Ainab Salbi said today about what nationalism actually creates. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AINAB SALBI, AUTHOR: What led to World War I and World War II is nationalism, basically. It is divisions and fighting. European allies have seen the wards, have seen actually the consequences of what nationalism could destroy their own countries. And so when Macron says about collaboration and fighting together for the common good, when he talks about creating a European army, you have to watch for these things. And I feel like this is the beginning of the European separation from America. And this is really scary. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: This is really scary. Why is it scary for Europe to spend more money on Europe's defense? A hundred years after the World War I armistice, why is that calamitous to the internationalists? I'm not following that. HAZONY: This is the same propaganda that we've been hearing from liberal intellectuals in Europe since right after World War II. They always have the same mantra that nationalism caused the world wars. Historically, if you go after World War I and you actually see, you'll see that most people after World War I believed that what caused the First World War to go on for four and a half years and to leap to 20 million deaths was the life and death struggle between German imperialism trying to break the back of British imperialism in its effort to take over the world. With World War II, you can say the same thing. Adolf Hitler, if he hadn't wanted to take over the world, if he hadn't said in "Mein Kampf" that his goal was to make Germany the lord of the earth and mistress of the globe, he might've been a terrible German leader, but he would not have led to the deaths of 50 million or 60 million people. So this claim -- INGRAHAM: I see what you're saying. But Mark, just very quickly, respond to that. Nation-building, wanting to transpose our view of democracy on other nations, we've lost trillions of dollars, countless lives, damaged lives at home, depleted our military. We weren't pursuing nationalist agenda in Iraq or Afghanistan or all throughout the Middle East, went with? SIMAKOVSKY: No, but I think what Mr. Macron is saying is that Europe has maintained peace when the trans- Atlantic community has been united, has cooperated. When the common elements of common security, which NATO represents, actually supports American interests and support French, German, U.K. interests. And there is a risk today that trans-Atlantic unity is falling apart. INGRAHAM: Where are they going to go, into the arms of China? Where European going to go? SIMAKOVSKY: No. I think the fear is that Trump is going to take the United States out of the game, and that Russia and China can create conflict like they are creating in eastern Ukraine, that China is creating in the South China Sea, and the U.S. won't be there to help secure the peace. INGRAHAM: Gentlemen, fascinating conversation. Thank you so much. And up next, we go live to the ground in California where those devastating fires continue to ravage two separate parts of the state. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There's never been anything like this. I've never seen the devastation, carnage, never. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Three separate wildfires continue to rage in California tonight and the devastating images continue to pour in. Evacuee John Yates remarking to "USA Today," "It just looked like "Dante's Inferno." Black and red was all you can see. The numbers are heartbreaking, over 200,000 acres completely scorched, tens of thousands of structures completely destroyed. And then there's the human toll -- 31 have been confirmed dead with another 230 unaccounted for. Joining us now on the ground in Paradise, California, is Rachel Shackelford, a local horse trainer leading efforts to evacuate animals as well. Rachel, thank you for being here. I am so sorry for what you and everyone in your community have been going through. It's almost too much to comprehend. How are you personally holding up? And if you could take us through some of your efforts. RACHEL SHACKELFORD, HORSE RESCUE VOLUNTEER: My gosh. Thank you. It's been a long five day, so I apologize. I'm a little weary over here. It's a very humbling experience being out here. It's just amazing how a lot of us, the horse community, are really coming together. Everyone is donating what they can, if they can't, their time, their finances, their resources. It really does take a village to help everyone out here. And all of our hearts go out, so we are all working together very closely to just come together and be out here are the people, their animals, their properties, their neighbors, their friends, their family. It's been very devastating being out here. INGRAHAM: Rachel, I was so heartened to see through all this heartbreak and tragedy was that people were putting aside their differences, their political differences, and just what can I do to help you. What do you need? Can I get you a truck, trailer, feed? You can you bring your animal to my home. And we need to do more of that in this country. I'm a political commentator, but the best of our country comes out in a time of crisis, and that applies to politicians who should sometimes button it and not comment on things, and people like me and others. But I just applaud all of you for doing what we should do to help our fellow man. It's awesome. SHACKELFORD: Thank you. Thank you so much. NorCal Livestock Evacuation and Rescue, this is what we're about. We are a bunch of volunteers that are put together. We work individually with the owners. So if the area is clear we're able to come out and get their animals. We are closely working with CHP, with the rangers, with the game wardens. We're out here wanting to make sure that we are also safe as well as the properties, so when we go in here and get these animals, then we can go ahead and bring them back to the volunteers and the other certified help that are working closely with the veterinarians to get the animals the care that they need so they can be reunited. And it is amazing how much social media has gone on. All of us, every once in a while, we are like, man, we don't want to get on Facebook. But it has been amazing at how far Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. Yes, it is tagging people -- INGRAHAM: They got it done. It's amazing. Rachel, thank you so much. Incredible report. And don't lose your own life. As much as we want to save our animals, look at for yourself, too, my friends. Up next, the last bite. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RONALD REAGAN, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: The living have a responsibility to remember the conditions that led to the wars in which our heroes died. Perhaps we can start by remembering this, that all of those who died for us and our country were in one way or another victims of a peace process that failed. Victims of a decision to forget certain things, to forget, for instance, that the surest way to keep a peace going is to stay strong. Weakness, after all, is a temptation. It tempts the pugnacious to assert themselves. But strength is a declaration that cannot be misunderstood. (END VIDEO CLIP) Load-Date: November 13, 2018 End of Document Election Chaos in Florida; Latest Developments on Senate Race in Arizona; Liberal Bias Exposed; Controversy into Florida's Election fraud by a Democrat Election Official is Heating Up as Governor Rick Scott's Margin Gets Thinner Versus Democrat Bill Nelson; Republicans are Calling for Brenda Snipes Who Had A Record of Sabotaging Election Records Even from the Past; Michelle Obama Blames President Trump in Her New Memoir for Her Family's Safety Being Put on Risk, but President Trump Counters Her by Also Blaming His Husband for Depleting the Military, among Other Things Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 9, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7122 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Jason Chaffetz, Tammy Bruce, Deneen Borelli Guests: Rick Scott, Lindsey Graham, J. Christian Adams, Ronna McDaniel Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Welcome to the special edition of HANNITY. A crisis is brewing on Southern Florida tonight, days after Republican Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis secured victories in each of their statewide races. Thousands of new ballots magically appearing seemingly out of thin air, all in deep blue Democratic districts only. And since election night, over 15,000 new votes have been unearthed in Palm Beach County. Tens and tens of thousands more mysteriously discovered in Broward County, all in violation of Florida law. And now, the state is bracing for recounts in both the Senate and the governor's races. Rick Scott, the governor, the senator-elect, will join us in a moment. He's alleging that rampant fraud is at play. And now, Broward County supervisor of elections Brenda Snipes is facing serious claims of election malfeasance. We'll have a full report on her and reveal her shady past tonight. Plus, we'll have the latest news out of the razor tight Senate race in Arizona. And we'll call out conspiracy TV, MSNBC's chief election night anchor after public promoting far left anti-Trump protests organized by the radical group MoveOn.org. We'll also show you how President Trump is responding to crazy Jim Acosta's latest unprofessional behavior. All right. Sit tight, buckle up, it's Friday night. Time for our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Tonight, there are some troubling developments in the great state of Florida. Thousands of uncounted ballots, they're just turning up in Broward County and Palm Beach Counties only. In other words, only Democratic votes. These 15,000 votes were mysteriously found in Palm Beach County. And in Broward, it is far worse. On election night, the county reported roughly 634,000 votes, which they are supposed to do. Two days later, Thursday morning, that number somehow got move up to 695,000. Then later in the day, over 10,000 more votes just magically turned up. Several thousand more votes were just located hours later. And it continues on and on from there, magically just keep going up, up, up. Florida state law states, quote: the canvassing board shall report all early voting, all tabulated vote by mail results to the Department of State within 30 minutes after the polls close. The law continues, quote, the canvassing board shall report with the exception of provisional ballot results updated precinct election results at the department, at least every 45 minutes until all results are completely reported. Now, Florida has 67 counties, 65 of those counties complied fully with the law on election night, including, by the way, the hurricane ravaged areas in the Panhandle. As of today, we have no idea where these votes were coming from. Why were they missing for several days? Where have they been? Why was Florida and federal election laws obviously violated? They didn't pay attention to any of them. We didn't even know how many votes were left. We don't know now exactly. Governor Rick Scott is sounding the alarm, rightly so, along with Marco Rubio. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GOV. RICK SCOTT (R), FLORIDA: It's been over 48 hours since the polls closed and Broward and Palm Beach Counties are still finding and counting ballots. And the supervisors, Brenda Snipes, and Susan Booker, cannot see to say how many ballots still exist and where these ballots came from or where they have been. The people of Florida deserve fairness, and transparency, and the supervisors are failing to give it to us. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And Florida Senator Marco Rubio is also speaking out, warning about a possible attempt to steal this election, tweeting, quote, Broward election supervisors ongoing violation of Florida law requiring timely reporting isn't just annoying incompetence. It has opened the door for lawyers to come here and try and steal a seat in the United States Senate and Florida cabinet. Now, Senator Rubio's warning must not be taken lightly. It's getting worse by the hour. Tonight, we're facing a serious issue, a chain of custody issue with Broward County because, oh, they found 83,000 votes after the initial election night canvass? Here we are 72 hours later? Those votes, at this point, can't be trusted. There is tight control now over voter access, security, and custody, because these votes cannot be traced to the actual voter. The time, the location, the law compels the state to dispose of these ballots. In other words, we have no documented way to know in any way if, in fact, these ballots are legitimate or where they are coming from. This means, you know, some kind of malfeasance -- by the way, nothing new from Broward County or Palm Beach County. Now, the supervisor of elections there, her name is Brenda Snipes, we'll have a full report on her later. She has a long history of misconduct. In August, a judge ruled that Snipes systematically mishandled mail-in absentee ballots. And in 2016, a court found that Broward County broke both state and federal laws by illicitly destroying ballots. But Brenda Snipes wants Floridians to think that their votes are in good hands. Why couldn't she do what the other 65 counties in Florida did? And that is, obey the law. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRENDA SNIPES, BROWARD COUNTY ELECTION OFFICIAL: It's a serious issue with me. I've been doing this since October 22nd. We ran 22 states. We ran 14 days. We ran 12 hours. We had a big vote by mail. So don't try to turn it around to make it seem like I'm making comedy out of this. OK. All right. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And she was found in 2016 having violated both federal law and the laws in Florida. Yes, long time. Now, thousands upon thousands of votes just go missing for days, and that's all you have to say? Brenda Snipes, she's either corrupt, incompetent, or both. She's obviously not respecting the laws of Florida or, of course, country. It's been proven over and over again. No one will ever know the true validity of this vote. Now, it's impossible. And today, rightfully, angry Floridians were gathering outside of the Broward County election office demanding answers. And just breaking, hours ago, a judge ruling Broward County violated the constitution of Florida. They didn't follow the open records laws, and demanded that election officials hand over important details about the newly discovered ballots. The judge also made no ruling yet on the claims of corruption and the legal fight is far from over tonight. And also tonight, we still have more questions than answers. Earlier today, here's what President Trump had to say about this dubious situation in Florida, which, by the way, this has gone on for years which we'll tell you about in a minute. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You notice the votes never go the other way. They hire lawyers and the votes don't ever seem to go the Republican way -- although I hear -- I don't know, you tell me. It's always the Democrats. It's always GPS Fusion. It's always crooked stuff. Look, look at what happened. How many FBI are gone. How many Justice Department people are gone, that I found out. There is a lot of bad stuff going on in this country, and we're finding out, and I'm getting to the bottom of it and I've done a hell of a job. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, the sanctity of the vote is at stake tonight in Florida. All Americans need to be outraged. We send election observers to other countries. We need them in Broward County, and Palm Beach County. And, of course, nothing new from the cheating Democratic Party. Just think about this. It's really just a page out of Hillary Clinton's playbook on how to rig or steal an election. Remember, when she fixed the DNC super delegates against Bernie Sanders and more? Remember, Donna Brazile admitted to such, had to make that uncomfortable call to Bernie Sanders and made it impossible for him to ever win. It was all rigged. Remember when the Clinton campaign before the general election in 2016 -- oh, yes, Marc Elias, the attorney for Clinton, the attorney now leading Democratic cause down in Broward County. Well, don't forget, he's the guy that used Clinton campaign money. They went into a law firm, Perkins Coie. They funneled the money to Fusion GPS. It wasn't about legal bills. It was about creating a dirty dossier full of lies about Donald Trump, by the way, throughout the highest levels of government and then sending that information out to the American people. Why? To malign the candidate Donald Trump. Why? So they will get extra votes. Why? To cheat in an election. Don't forget, that information was disseminated by the top levels of government. It's practically at this point the Democratic motto, when you can't beat them, just cheat them. We'll have more throughout this show. Governor Rick Scott will join us in a few moments. We'll also have an important update on Arizona. We'll tell you more about who Brenda Snipes really is. Now, the Senate race between McSally and Sinema, that's too close to call, but a deal now has been worked out a few hours ago regarding many of the contested ballots. We'll have an update on that coming up. But first, let's turn to the developing story about a pretty obvious partnership between NBC News and the controversial far left group known as MoveOn.org. Remember on Wednesday, MSNBC's chief conspiracy theorist, who refers to herself as a journalist, an election night anchor over at NBC, Rachel Maddow, urging her supporters to take part in nationwide anti-Trump protests, tweeting: It's happening. This is the break, in case of an emergency plan to protect the Mueller investigation. 5:00 p.m. local time, protest tomorrow, Thursday, November 8. We knew this would happen at some point. The day has arrived. And then Maddow also tweeted out a list of the protest locations, and last night, many far left Trump haters answered the call and participated in the left's break the glass of urgency moment that they call it. Anyway, these protests took place in 60 cities organized by MoveOn.org. So, NBC has aligned themselves now with MoveOn.org, the same group that referred to General Petraeus, an American hero, as general betray us, during his successful surge efforts in Iraq. It's the same group that compare President Bush to Hitler, in an ad that was condemned by the ADL. It's the same group that accused John McCain of wanting to send everyone's children to war. And MoveOn.org also partnered with activist Linda Sarsour during the women's march. A known anti-Semite, and Move On funded and promoted the 2016 Chicago protests outside of a Trump rally. That's the one that became violent. It forced the campaign to cancel the event. And tonight, there you have their big star over at NBC News, election night coverage host Rachel Maddow denying organizing the anti-Trump protest with Move On? Well, we just saw the tweets. She's claiming she's merely reporting. No, she's telling people, this is the time, the break the glass moment. So, give us a break. If reporting that something is happening is the same thing as organizing it, I'm happy to take credit for organizing the new Trump family patent on what, you know, Chinese, whatever. Anyway, the resignation of, what, Spiro Agnew, that was a tough one but I'm a diligent organizer. It's total B.S. It's a total lie. It's a total con job, just like the lie that she claims to be a journalist. That statement is a lie. Of course, we all know Maddow isn't a reporter. She's not a journalist, even though her network trots her out to be their anchor on election night. She's a Mueller-obsessed anti-Trump conspiracy theorist who's constantly and wrongly predicting Trump's eminent demise. Any second now, it's going to happen. Of course, all part of Russia collusion and the witch hunt, with no evidence, but ignores all the evidence we have about Hillary and her bought and paid for Russian lies that, of course, was used to commit fraud on a FISA court four times, used to misinform the American people before the 2016 election, used as part of a media leak strategy to get Robert Mueller appointed, part of the insurance policy. She's whipping her followers into a frenzy. Sadly, with Mueller's probe seemingly coming to a close -- well, I guess they are about to be in for a whole lot of disappointment. So, of course, now, we have MSNBC, and their new partners, MoveOn.org, and you've got CNN, fake news, foaming at the mouth over Sessions' departure. Many even claiming that the Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker is going to derail the Mueller investigation. The president said yesterday that's not happening. And while Democrats are fueling more baseless Russia hysteria, more conspiracy theories, President Trump fired back today. When asked if he wants Whitaker to rein in the special council, here's what he had to say. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REPORTER: -- Matt Whitaker to be involved in the Russia probe? Do you want him -- TRUMP: It's up to him. REPORTER: Do you want him to rein in Robert Mueller? TRUMP: What a stupid question that is. What a stupid question. But I watch you a lot. You ask a lot of stupid questions. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Whitaker has a strong record and that's why the left is rushing to demonizing him. He has been critical of Mueller going too far with this endless investigation. And he wrote in 2016, Hillary, yes, she's lucky she wasn't indicted. But in no way is anyone talking about meddling with the Mueller witch-hunt. It's going to play out and when it does, President Trump will be able to move on, if you will, to use a phrase, unencumbered by conspiracy theories aimed to delegitimizing his presidency, although, I got to warn you, they're just going to create new ones. They'll be created by Maxine Waters, Jerrold Nadler, Adam Schiff and company, and Nancy Pelosi. Finally, tonight, before we go, we have an update from the ongoing Jim Acosta saga. As you know, earlier this week, he acted in a completely unprofessional, combative way, even making contact with a White House intern. As you can see there, she's trying to say your questions are over. The president told you to sit down. How many times does a president have to say enough, enough, enough, enough? Just rude. Another example of his egregious, you know, self-serving narcissistic behavior and now, his White House pass, sadly, has been revoked. And Jim's boss, fake news CNN head, is now standing behind his embattled Trump hater spewing some Trump hate on their own, writing in a statement, quote: The president's ongoing attacks on the press have gone too far. They are not only dangerous, they are disturbingly un-American. And earlier today, President Trump responded to the attack against him and Acosta's terrible conduct against him. Let's listen in. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: I think Jim Acosta is very unprofessional. I think -- he does this with everybody. He gets paid to do that. You know, he gets paid to burst in. He's a very unprofessional guy, whether it was me or Ronald Reagan or anybody else, he would have done the same thing. Look, I don't think he's a smart person but he's got a loud voice. When you're in the White House, this is a very sacred place to me. This is a very special place. You have to treat the White House with respect. You have to treat the presidency with respect. If you have every seen him dealing with Sarah Huckabee Sanders, it's a disgrace. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Acosta wanted a debate. He wanted a fight. He wanted something that would help make him a bigger star. President Trump, well, he doesn't respect CNN's ugly coverage, their abusively biased coverage and that's okay. They don't like when it the president hits back. Criticism, by the way, is not an attack on the First Amendment. And, by the way, had they acted respectfully, he would still be in there. But without a doubt, CNN's coverage has been obsessive and pretty despicable. Let's take a trip down memory lane. I hope fake news CNN is watching. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels is causing stormy weather. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Porn star Stormy Daniels claims president Trump broke the law, had her bullied. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Does Stormy Daniels have the president's number? It sure seems that way. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: President Trump might have met his match with Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How is Stormy weathering this? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stormy speaks. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're hearing quite a bit from Stormy Daniels. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Every second, every minute, every hour, every day, day in and day out, hate Trump. Yes, that kind of coverage deserves criticism especially when so many of the people you saw, they claim to be unbiased. Not partisan. They think they are journalists. They are not. When we come back, Governor Rick Scott, Senator Lindsey Graham all weighing in on today's big breaking news going on down in Florida. Don't change that channel as we continue. (NEWSBREAK) HANNITY: All right. Joining us now to fill us on the Florida crucial Senate election and what's going on down there, we have Governor, Senator- elect Rick Scott is with us. Senator, great to see you. What's -- obviously you had a good court ruling. Now, let's talk about where we are and where we go from here. GOV. RICK SCOTT (R), FLORIDA: So, as you know, I ended the night Tuesday night with a 57,000-vote lead, and now I'm down to 15,000 vote lead. We head -- to go to court to try to get the supervisor of elections in Palm Beach and Broward county to actually do their job, to not violate the law and to provide us information. We won that lawsuit today. So we're looking forward to getting that information. We are -- you know, we've hired the right lawyers. We have Gibson Dunn, who won -- argued the case with Bush versus Gore successfully. Their lawyers, Bill Nelson's lawyers who is trying to steal this election, he -- they went to federal court today trying to get the certification postponed. They were not able to do that. So, basically tomorrow, my win will be certified by the court subject to a recount, assuming I'll be less than the 40,000-some votes needed for -- to do a recount. And then we'll just keep going. They're going to -- I mean, it looks like they are going to do everything they can to steal this election. I'm so disappointed in Bill Nelson, a career politician who's been there forever, and all he's doing now is he's hired Hillary Clinton's lawyer to say, and his lawyer said it, I'm here -- I'm here to win this election. Not a fair election, not make sure all the ballots are cast. I'm here to win this election. The words should be, I'm here to steal this election. HANNITY: Look at all laws that are broken here. Within 30 minutes of the polls closing, by state law, you're supposed to literally have a vote tally in terms of mail absentee ballots. They are supposed to be counted within 30 minutes. We're also supposed to have observers. We're all supposed to -- by law, every 45 minutes, there is supposed to be an update. None of that has happened here, and this particular woman that we keep talking about, Brenda Snipes, she has a history of violating Florida and federal law. How is it -- how is it possible 72 hours later, plus, that we are in a position, where they are still dumping ballots, they never report on time, they are not allowing the people to observe as is protocol? How was that possible? SCOTT: Well, we've gone to court. We've asked the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to investigate. But they have come up, in Broward, just Broward by itself, after election night, they came up with 78,000 more votes. We still don't have the information on it. That's why we've gone to court. Another 15,000 in Palm Beach County. No idea, how they showed up, when they voted or anything about them. So, we won the lawsuit today. We're waiting to get that information. So, it's just -- it's hard to believe. This is just -- you know, you can only assume that this is just, you know, you have to assume that they are doing this just for fraud, to try to steal the election. HANNITY: You know, but there are 67 counties, Governor, Senator-elect, in Florida. How come the other 65 counties never have any problems and the problems all exist in these two counties? And at what point, where is law enforcement, the fact that they would allow three full days to have zero supervision. They should have gone in there and shut this place down because again, they are just violating laws left and right, which she's been found to do. So, it seems now -- God only knows what they have done in the 72 hours, and, by the way, she expressed -- she didn't appear to like you very much. It seems like she has a strong opinion against you. SCOTT: Right. Well, clearly, she's got, you know, she's got a bias, and the -- my expectation is law enforcement is going to find out exactly what happened. The courts, we're winning in the courts so that's going to help us to get to the bottom of this. But, look, I won, or the citizens of this state won this election fair and square. I am the next -- I'm the senator-elect in the state. We will be certified tomorrow and we're going to fight every one of these lawsuits and we're going to win. We're not going to let these liberal activists from all over the country come down here and say, oh, we're going to steal this election from somebody that follow the will, you know, we're going to follow the will of the people in this state. We're going to work hard every day and we're going to win this. HANNITY: Right, it's going to be an investigation. This is going to go on, but you're saying by Saturday, you will be declared the winner? SCOTT: So, the first thing will be the certification based on information that comes from the local supervisor of elections. We should be certified as the winner at that point on Saturday subject to a recount, and then we'll have the machine recount through next Thursday. In the meantime, any -- votes that come in from the military, which can come in a little bit later, those will be counted, and then if I'm below about 21,000, then there will be a manual recount after that. But in the meantime, you know, the Democrats, Bill Nelson, who can't stand to lose is just going to file every lawsuit they can and we're going to have to fight back every lawsuit there is. HANNITY: Unbelievable. Governor, no one should have to go through this. SCOTT: Hard to believe. HANNITY: And the fact that the history of Brenda Snipes, the history of these two counties, even the Panhandle, 27 days earlier, hit with one of the most severe hurricanes with so much damage, they didn't have a problem. This is unacceptable, and it looks like a banana republic. You know, we send observers over to other countries. We need an observer in Broward County. Maybe we can get somebody to observe from now on, and she cannot be allowed to do this again. I hope we get to the bottom of it. All right. We're watching, Governor. We're going to pay with close attention. Joining us now with reaction to the midterm election chaos and much more, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham is with us. Lindsey, I'm literally watching this as the world is. And we go from 57,000, I'll read it to you, then 38,000, then 30,000, then 21,000, then 15,000. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Yes. HANNITY: I mean, you can't make this up. And -- GRAHAM: No, you can't. HANNITY: -- but Florida federal law is very clear. GRAHAM: Well, the law exists to avoid this situation. You want to account for the vote 30 minutes after the election, every 45 minutes. There's been over 90,000 votes come in after the close of voting in clear violation of Florida law. It's designed to prevent this situation. Broward County is a national joke when it comes to elections, and here's where Kavanaugh has a lot in common. When it comes to counting votes and confirming judges, there is nothing Democrats won't do to win. They tried to destroy Brett Kavanaugh. It didn't work. They are trying to steal this election, it's not going to work, and I can't wait to get back to work and make sure we put men and women on the judiciary who actually follow the law. The law means nothing to liberal Democrats. It's all about outcome, and they are not going to win-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Hey, Lindsey, senator-- GRAHAM: -- they didn't destroy Kavanaugh and they aren't going to screw Rick Scott. HANNITY: Senator, Hillary cheated Bernie Sanders out of the nomination. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: Marc Elias is her attorney. Now think about this. He's the one involved. The money funneled through a law firm. I would argue that we should investigate if that's a campaign finance violation. Funneled through a law firm. GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: Labeled as a legal expense but it wasn't. It was then used to hire Fusion GPS. This is the same Marc Elias. Then of course that leads to the Russian dossier. The Russian dossier is disseminated, leaked, its contents, before the 2016 election. Why? Because they wanted to steal that election by misinforming and propagandizing the American people. GRAHAM: Sure. HANNITY: Same players, same characters, same M.O., same objective. Win by any means necessary. GRAHAM: Well, look at Brett Kavanaugh. They tried to deny him a place on the court by being deceitful, withholding information from the committee, ambushing him, changing the legal standards, you're guilty until proven innocent. What are they doing in Broward County? They are taking Florida law and turning it upside-down to get a result. This liberal activist lawyer, the Clinton lawyer, went to Florida with the purpose of winning the election. While the election was held on Tuesday. You know, Bill Nelson was running, not the lawyer. Rick Scott won fair and square. And what's going on in Broward County is not fair and it's not square, and we're going to get to the bottom of it. Rick is going to win. But please remember this about 2018. The 2018 cycle is going to be remembered for liberal Democrats doing whatever it takes when it comes to judges and votes to win. The law be damned, in the eyes of liberal Democrats, the law is just something to get around when it comes to winning what you want. HANNITY: Well, remember a judge found that Snipes had violated state and federal law. That was the Debbie Wasserman Schultz recount. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: She just destroyed the ballots-- GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: -- illegally. She's not updating every 45 minutes. Which she's supposed to do. She didn't -- she didn't give an accurate number. Thirty minutes, all the other counties in Florida, including the Panhandle did. I just -- if this is not stopped, there is no stopping -- the level of cheating that will go on will be unprecedented. GRAHAM: Yes. Incompetent and deceitful is no way to go through life but if the shoe were on the other foot and this was a Republican held county -- a Republican county they are eating us alive right now. HANNITY: Yes, good luck. Yes. The media is ignoring it. All right. Senator, thank you. We appreciate it. Coming up, former DOJ official with exclusive details about the Broward County election chief's highly checkered past. Wait until you hear this. It will blow you away. Ronna McDaniel, Jason Chaffetz all with the breaking news out of Florida tonight as we continue. Glad you're with us. HANNITY: Right now, as Florida braces for a possible recount, obviously, really bad shenanigans going on, they are Broward County, Florida, is now coming into focus for its history of utter incompetence, ignoring the law, controversy, especially under the reign of election supervisor Brenda Snipes. Joining us now with reaction, former DOJ officials, an election lawyer at the Public Interest Legal Foundation, J. Christian Adams, who actually wants to post Snipes, along with RNC chair, Ronna McDaniel, and the author of the New York Times bestseller, "Deep State" Fox News contributor Jason Chaffetz. J. Christian, let's start with you. So, you had a chance to depose her. Let's put up on screen, we found that she destroyed ballots illegally back in the 2016 -- that was the primary race, that she had more registered voters than citizens, that she documented reports about cleaning voter rolls, and lost the manual on removing dead voters. Now, on top of that we know the laws that have been broken here. That within 30 minutes of the polls closing, all of those absentee ballots and early voting, all of those numbers should have been handed over. They were not. They were supposed to have been updating a every 45 minutes. They have not. You see this -- you know, one direction - - you know, Rick Scott going from 57,000 to 15,000. What do you know about Brenda Snipes? JAY CHRISTIAN ADAMS, ELECTION LAWYER, PUBLIC INTEREST LEGAL FOUNDATION: A lot. The Public Interest Legal Foundation has been fighting her in federal court for over two years. It's called ACRU versus Snipes. She was my witness in a federal trial. She admitted that noncitizens vote in Broward County. It's a total clown show, Sean. I mean, she has people on the voter rolls there who were born when Grover Cleveland was president and she's not removing them from the rolls. She lost the manual actually to tell her how to do it. It's a clown show over and over again of incompetence. Hiding the ball from the public. She just simply is the worst election official I have ever seen in the United States. HANNITY: It's worse than that, though. Even the ruling today by this judge, Jason Chaffetz, they're violating the Constitution, we know they violated numerous Florida election laws, already up to this point. Nobody intervened here. Why she was allowed to do this after all the previous mishaps she's had, and, again, a court said she violated both Florida and federal law in the past, and yet she's still in this position. ADAMS: When I had her on-- (CROSSTALK) JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, I know, it's really stunning. HANNITY: Jason, yes. CHAFFETZ: I mean, it really is stunning. And look, Ron DeSantis and Governor Scott, they deserve to have people to watch this. What they read too is that they were -- if there was a ballot that had some sort of question mark, they could literally have an election official fill out another ballot and then run it through the machine to count a vote. And I'm sure it's not a coincidence that every time this happens it seems to be going in the direction of the Democrats. They've got to get a grip on this immediately. HANNITY: When you're talking about that many votes it's unbelievable. Ronna, let's get an update in terms of, do you have enough lawyers on the ground? They sent in Marc Elias. Marc Elis, I know Jason knows him well, he's the guy involved for Hillary Clinton's campaign. Fusion GPS. CHAFETZ: Yes. HANNITY: Funneling money through Perkins Coie, hiring, of course, Christopher Stele. CHAFFETZ: Yes. HANNITY: Phony dossier, disseminated, propaganda, lies sent out. Leaked, so that it would hurt Donald Trump in that election. Stealing the election from Bernie Sanders. I mean, this goes on and on. What's happening here and can you update us on Arizona, Ronna? RONNA MCDANIEL, CHAIRWOMAN, REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE: So, we do have enough lawyers on the ground, Sean, and obviously, we had this great ruling today where the judge said that they were being unconstitutional in the way they were not being transparent with the ballots. Brenda Snipes. In Arizona we just also got a good court ruling. We had two Democrat counties in Arizona that were continuing to try and fix ballots and cure votes and none of the Republican counties were doing it. The court ruled today that all the counties get to do that equally, and so that's going to be going on until next Wednesday. That's going to be very good for Martha McSally but our lawyers have been on the ground. The RNC is on the ground. We have over 300 staff in each of these states to monitor the machine recounts and all of this curing that's happening in Arizona and we have to do this. It's unfortunate. Listen, it's not incompetency, it's intent. This is corruption, it is election meddling. HANNITY: We know that. MCDANIEL: I don't know where Adam Schiff is because there's cameras, collusion and election meddling. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Yes. And you know, and J. Christian, the reason we know that it is intent and their desire because we've got 67 counties in Florida. Great people of Florida. The 65 other counties, they abide by the law. They reported within 30 minutes. They update every 45 minutes, and they respect both federal election laws and Florida state laws, and the Constitution. Now, she has been found to have violated those in the past and we now have a court decision about having violated them again. Why are there no consequences? How does she stay in this position? ADAM: Well, don't forget, Sean, that her predecessor Miriam Oliphant was removed by Governor Bush for incompetence. So, when I asked her on the stand in the federal trial how many changes did you make to the personnel of Miriam Oliphant, you know, woman who was removed for incompetence, how many people did you replace? Guess what the answer was? There's nobody. She kept everybody there. All the people who were screwing it up 15 years ago are still screwing it up today. That office is unbelievable. It's like they hand out sedatives in the morning to all the employees. I did depositions of these employees. They don't know what they are doing. It's incredible. Incredible the cheating allowed for them to stay in office. HANNITY: It's -- no I don't think even it's incredible. I think it's impossible, I don't believe this is credible at all, and if the Panhandle, Congressman Chaffetz, if the Panhandle can get it right after hurricane Michael and what happened to them, and do-- CHAFFETZ: Yes. HANNITY: -- and abide by the law, they would have, I think, a reasonable excuse. If they had some problems or whatever. CHAFFETZ: Yes. HANNITY: Maybe needing a little more time. Not 72 hours and every, you know, every 12 to 14 hours, three in the morning, we'll announce, we just found another 10,000 votes for Bill Nelson but not for Rick Scott. CHAFFETZ: Yes, refilling out a ballot, suddenly finding boxes of ballots. And remember, the reelect -- or the election campaigns in the past, maybe there has been a discrepancy of a couple of hundred votes moving in this direction or that direction but we're talking about tens of thousands of votes, and it's impossible, as you say, Sean. HANNITY: Ronna, we'll give you the last word. MCDANIEL: Well, I just hope Governor DeSantis as his first act as governor removes Brenda Snipes as the Broward County clerk. I think it needs to happen. he'll have that authority. She has broken the lawyer, she's broken the trust of the people of Florida. She's disenfranchised every voter in Florida with these 70,000 found votes-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's now impossible to know the absolute truth here. MCDANIEL: -- and we need to get to the bottom of it. HANNITY: It is impossible to know the truth at this point. She has tainted the election in a way, all in favor of Bill Nelson. And of course, Hillary's cronies are in there doing what they always do. Just ask Bernie Sanders and you might ask them about the phony dossier that they were leaking to the public to hurt Donald Trump, to cheat in that election. All right, guys, thank you all for being with us. All right. When we come back, a lot more. Michelle Obama, new book. Tammy Bruce, Deneen Borelli will weigh in and much more, stay with us. HANNITY: Al right. The press has now obtained a copy of Michelle Obama's upcoming book, "Becoming," where she reportedly writes that she would, quote, "never forgive President Trump" for his, quote, "birther remarks about her husband." Meanwhile, the president was asked about her comments this morning. Let's take a look at his response. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I guess she wrote a book. She got paid a lot of money to write a book and they always insist that you come up with controversial. Well, I'll give you a little controversy back. I'll never forgive him for what he did to our United States military by not funding it properly. It was depleted. Everything was old and tired. And I came in and I had to fix it and I'm in the process of spending tremendous amounts of money, so I'll never forgive him for who he did to our military. I'll never forgive him for what he did in many other ways, which I'll talk to you about in the future. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with reaction, Fox News contributors Tammy Bruce and Deneen Borelli. Good to see you both. DENEEN BORELLI, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Hi, Sean. HANNITY: Tammy, let me start with you. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Hi, Sean. HANNITY: Whatever happened to, they go low, we go -- the Democrats want to kick them. BRUCE: Yes. HANNITY: And get in their face and create a crowd and after they create a crowd, they will follow them into a grocery store, department store and gas station, and say we don't want you anywhere, anymore. (CROSSTALK) BRUCE: You know, considering the environment that we've got, right? You would think that she would think twice about the nature of that kind of rhetoric. But look, you know, she's speaking her mind. If people thought she was not a political person, obviously, this abuses them of that notion. But I would also suggest that she's also very angry at the wrong person. Not the Clinton campaign in particular but Sidney Blumenthal is the one who created this in a way for the 2008 campaign. Of course, the Hillary adviser, he had worked in the Clinton White House and was with the Clinton Foundation. And he went to McClatchy news service bringing this up, about this argument which, of course, most of us found absurd that he was not born in this country. So, she also should just actually never forgive Sidney Blumenthal. But beyond that, it's also interesting, though, that her husband, and I'll remind you, in this exchange, she, of course, made it personal about him. The president talked about the military. He talked about their impact on something for this country. But her husband, then, during his term, accused Donald Trump and his rhetoric of helping ISIS do its job. So there is the man that he is accusing of being complicit in mass murder and terrorism and I think that maybe there would be a worry about the impact on Barron Trump, a boy at the time, but that seems to not be a concern here. HANNITY: Yes. BRUCE: I think that there is, of course, a lot -- everybody in a political environment needs to think about that but I think that this is a bit of a low shot, and considering, of course, what her husband has said in the past about Mr. Trump, and that maybe we can all move a little bit higher when it comes to all of this. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know, I was never a birther. I just thought it was stupid, Deneen. BRUCE: It's idiotic. It was idiotic. HANNITY: It just a really stupid thing, you know, and it became a big to do about releasing the birth certificate. Let me play Michelle Obama. Because she is political and she inserted herself a number of times, her saying something that I found pretty shocking at the time. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHELLE OBAMA, FORMER FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES: For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country. Because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: It wasn't the only time she said that and I'm thinking, well, I was kind of proud of my dad and all the heroes of World War II, and our brave guys that slammed the beaches in Normandy and defeated imperial Japan and fascism and communism and Nazism. I was proud of them. BORELLI: Well, Sean, let me just say for the record I have always been proud of our country, of my country. Listen, Michelle Obama is bitter. This is the same Michelle who came from Chicago, who went to Princeton, who went to the White House. She's one of the most well-known women in the world. She's a globe traveler and multimillionaire. And yes, she made that statement in 2009 for the first time in my adult life I'm now proud of my country. Where else in the world could you achieve so much? Only in America. BRUCE: Can I ask, Sean, I'm real curious, great points from Deneen on that point. I'm wondering if she writes about the three million that fell into poverty during her husband's two tenures? If she regrets any of that. HANNITY: Actually, it's more than that. Eight million that went into poverty. Thirteen million more Americans on food stamps. I'm not trying to correct you but-- (CROSSTALK) BRUCE: No. No. But when it comes to the number of women specifically that had-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Women, OK, I didn't hear you. BRUCE: Yes, women that normally, we've got a record, of course, of women who vote and have started their own businesses under President Trump, who ofc course the lowest unemployment rate in American history but under Barack Obama, the condition of women's lives were destroyed effectively. Poverty, no jobs, the future gone, all their money was gone, no money in their pocketbook. Doctors are gone. Hospitals are gone. HANNITY: Well, you're raising a good point. BRUCE: It was a disaster. HANNITY: And you could look at we talk about the Democratic breakdown. When we now have record low unemployment, Deneen, since Trump has been elected. BORELLI: Yes. HANNITY: Unemployment in 14 states. African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Asian-Americans, women in the workplace, youth unemployment, and our vets are now getting back to work thank God. They had so many multiple deployments. Those are huge records. MICHELLE OBAMA, FORMER FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES: Yes. I totally agree with you. Don't forget, former President Obama, the one who said you didn't build that to the small mom and pop shops and to the entrepreneurs. President Trump is putting America first. He's remembering the forgotten men and women, you just mentioned a number of startling accomplishments that we have recognized under this president because of tax cuts and roll back of regulations and it's about America first. We are open for business. HANNITY: All right, guys. Good to see you. Thank you for being with us. BRUCE: Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: I'm sure the media will go nuts. Here we are. The anointed one, Barack Obama, they are back. When we return, we'll have some closing thoughts straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Unfortunately, that is all the time we have left this evening. Remember, we're all fair, balanced, yes, we're not the destroy Trump media. As always, thank you for being with us. We will be on this Florida fraud on Monday. We hope you have a great weekend. We'll see you back here on Monday. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Laura Ingraham, next. Load-Date: November 10, 2018 End of Document Chaotic Recount Effort in Florida Underway; Trump: Election Fraud in Florida Senate Race; Broward County's Election Corruption History; Florida GOP Candidate Suing Broward County Amid Accusations of Election Fraud; Family of Girl Killed in Parkland Shooting Talk about Corruption of Broward County; Analysts Examine Media Figures Questioning Praying for Victims of Shooting; President Trump's Contentious Press Conference Examined; Restaurant Owner Criticized for Painting Mural of American Flag on Wall Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 9, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7936 words Byline: Mike Huckabee, Phil Keating, Trace Gallagher, John Roberts, Ari Fleischer, Laura Ingraham Guests: Matt Caldwell, Andrew Pollack, Hunter Pollack, Jason Altmire Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: We hope you have a great weekend. We'll see you back here on Monday. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues with Laura Ingraham, next. MIKE HUCKABEE, FOX NEWS HOST: Good evening, I'm Mike Huckabee in for Laura Ingraham tonight in Nashville. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. Well, a lot of breaking news to get to you this evening. We start with a chaotic recount ever down in Florida. The recount imperiling the slim leads of Governor Rick Scott running to unseat Democratic Senator Bill Nelson and Ron DeSantis, who is running for governor to replace Scott. Republicans are rightfully pointing to Broward County. The second most populous county all of Florida. It may also be its most corrupt and poorly run, something the president pointed out earlier today. Let us watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: What is going on Florida is a disgrace, go down and see what happens over the last time, 10 years, take a look at Broward County. Take a look at the total dishonesty of what happen with respect to Broward County. Broward County/election. There is a lot of dishonesty. (END VIDEO CLIP) HUCKABEE: In moments we'll be talking to Republican Florida representative and candidate for agriculture, Commissioner Matt Colwell. He is soon his only vanish in the wake of this new recount and he is steaming mad at Broward County, but first, on the latest regarding these recounts and the many lawsuits that are swirling around, we're going to go to Phil Keating live in Miami tonight. Phil? PHIL KEATING, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Good evening, governor. The Florida vote counting appears to be almost finally complete, but not quite yet. Believe it or not, right now in Broward County, they are still counting the final remaining provisional ballots. All of this happening on a day when Governor Rick Scott, the Republican candidate for senate, wins two times in court. Tonight, outside the Broward County elections department, yes, even tonight, protestors are still demonstrating, with Democrats and Republicans trading accusations of attempting to steal the election from both sides. Inside the building, all day and into tonight. Broward County canvassing board went through all remaining Provisionals comparing signatures and voter intent before validating the ballot or tossing it out. Miami-Dade, and most other Florida counties have already finished their counts. Now, in Broward County and Palm Beach County this afternoon Governor Scott when both of his lawsuit with the judges forcing those election supervisors to allow campaign observers better access to the process, and the ability now to immediately start inspecting Broward County's voter records, which the Scott team had wanted to do all along. Governor Scott reacted with this, "Bill Nelson is trying to commit voter fraud in broad daylight and we won't let them. We'll continue to fight for fuller transparency and accountability." Scott's Tuesday night lead over Democratic Senator Bill Nelson has shrunk to just 15,000 votes right now. Less than two tenths of 1 percent, out of eight million votes cast. That is how close it is. As more and more votes were counted and added to the totals for the past three days. Senator Nelson swung back, "he isn't telling the truth, Governor Scott, which is votes are not being found. They are being counted." One thing Governor Scott did ask the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to do last night was to investigate any improprieties with the vote count process. After a full day the FDLE says they have found no evidence of any fraud or irregularities. Unofficial election results from all 67 Florida counties are due in Tallahassee tomorrow by noon the Secretary of State will add up the numbers and if any race is decided by a margin of less than a half percent as appears to be the case in the Senate and governor's race, then they will automatically be ordered for a mandatory machine recount. And most counties we spoke with today intend to do that as soon as the order comes in tomorrow afternoon. Governor? HUCKABEE: So Phil, you thought the elections were over and you were going to have a nice, calm weekend. Boy, were you ever wrong, right? KEATING: I tell you, 10 days of this midterm craziness and it's just beginning, I feel. HUCKABEE: But how come it is that 66 counties in Florida can get it right and Broward County can't even find all the ballots until four days after the election? How do they justify that? KEATING: Well, right now, they haven't actually provided detailed answers as to how this happened. There have been reports tonight of double bags with perhaps up to a hundred mail-in ballots that had yet to be delivered. So they missed the deadline and those votes may not count, and we also have some postal workers out of the Opa- locka Florida facility, where that suspicious mail bomb package for Senator Cory was found a few weeks back, and the mail bomber story, some workers there took some photos of a lot of piles of mail-in ballots that were still sitting there undelivered to supervisors of elections office, but still very unclear. Had those arrived after Tuesday or had they been there before Tuesday. A lot of questions right now but, you know, a lot of people call the Broward County elections department inept at times. Well, I'll let you be the Judge. HUCKABEE: I think it's easier for a three-year-old to find Easter eggs than it is for Broward County to find ballots. Phil, thank you very much. Now, we go to Trace Gallagher for more on the corruption surrounding elections in Broward County, Florida. Trace? TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Governor, in Broward County, not only under votes yet to be counted in the Florida Senate race between Republican Governor Rick Scott and Democratic Senator Bill Nelson, just a short time ago, they found bags of early mail-in votes that had somehow gotten lost, which only adds to the County's infamous election reputation, starting with Gore V. Bush in 2000, where after a razor thin finish of the Presidential race reports started coming out over so-called dimples and hanging chads. Paper ballots that were not punched all the way through and therefore not counted. The Gore campaign asked for a recount in four Florida counties including Broward County. 36 days and 45 lawsuits later, the Supreme Court stopped the recount and Bush won the election. Then in 2004, the Presidential election between George W. Bush and John Carey, Broward County elections supervisor Brenda Snipes who is currently embroiled in the Nelson's Scott Senate controversy, accused the U.S. postal service of losing close to 60,000 absentee ballots. She later lowered the number to 6,000 and dropped off replacement ballots to the U.S. Postal service the Saturday before the election. After mail carriers had gone home. Prompting one postal worker to say, "There is no way in hell those people are going to get their ballots in a timely fashion, they should get their act together over there." The snafu meant thousands of voters in the Democratic leaning county were out of luck. Of course, Bush went on to win. Finally, in 2016, the 23rd Congressional District Race between Debbie Wassermann Schultz and Tim Canova, landed Brenda Snipes in court. Canova asked to physically inspect Broward County's votes, but Brenda Snipes' office had destroyed the physical copies and only kept digital copies. A violation of the law stating physical copies must be kept for 22 months after an election. Governor? HUCKABEE: Thank you, Trace. Well, our next guest saw his lead evaporate seemingly overnight. Here to tell us about the lawsuit that he just filed is Florida state representative Matt Caldwell, he is a Republican candidate for agriculture commissioner. Matt, why did you feel the need to file the lawsuit? MATT CALDWELL, (R), AGRICULTURE COMMISSION CANDIDATE, FLORIDA: Well, thank you, governor, and you said it earlier. I am steaming mad about this. You know, we went to bed Tuesday night with a 40,000 vote lead and over the course of the last three days, the Broward County supervisor has continued to find magic bags of ballots that have turned that into a 3,000 vote loss. It's really spectacular, and, you know, the voters deserve to have a straight answer. There are eight million people roughly that voted in this election and the fact that we can't get a satisfactory answer for now, after three days of asking where did these ballots come from? When were they cast? And why haven't they been counted yet? It's completely outrageous. You know, we worked very hard. We were on the campaign trail for nearly two years straight. Florida is not a small state. We traveled corner-to- corner a hundred thousand plus miles campaigning and to have this done to our family, to our campaign, all the people that have put that time in, I just think it's, frankly, unjust. So we did file a lawsuit today, and demand that she provide answers. Where did these ballots come from? And why are they still being counted. You know, you're supposed to have all of your early votes tabulated and reported half an hour after the polls close. So 7:30 Eastern is when those were due. That is still open. If you check the state's website now, Friday night here at 10:00 p.m., that is still open in her report. It's just totally outrageous, and not only can we not trust the answer at this point, but we can't even begin to figure out why we couldn't trust the answer, because we can't get a straight comment from her in any way whatsoever about this situation. HUCKABEE: Matt, we've got some sound with Brenda Snipes, the election commissioner down there. I would like for to you take a listen to it and then get your reaction to it. This is earlier today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Other counties have been able to do it. BRENDA SNIPES, ELECTION COMMISSIONER: Other counties didn't have 600,000 votes out there. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Miami-Dade did. SNIPES: Well, have you been -- never mind. Let me go check. I'll check. (END VIDEO CLIP) HUCKABEE: So, Matt, you've seen this, you heard her excuse. It doesn't seem like that is satisfactory to you or to a whole lot of other people in Florida who cast their ballots believing they were going to be counted Tuesday night. CALDWELL: No one takes that credibly. I mean, we have numerous large counties. Miami-Dade County is one of the largest counties in the country. They got all of their ballots counted and reported in a timely fashion on Tuesday night. Orange County, where Orlando is, millions of people. Hillsboro County, where Tampa is, millions of people. Again, it's just a habitual problem with Broward County, and, you know, we listed some of the problems we've seen in the past in our lawsuit today. You have allegations from a former employee of hers that in 2016, she caught employees filling out blank ballots by the stacks back in a secret locked room, and, I mean, this is really disturbing stuff, and then you look at this scenario, where again, we went to bed on Tuesday night with a substantial lead, and it magically disappears over the last three days, just enough ballots to not only push our victory into a loss according to her tally, but also to push both the Senate race and the governor's race into a recount. It just stinks to high heaven. And again today, another 2,100 ballots reportedly that was just found, misplaced, set aside. We can't get a straight answer to that. You know, the governor filed his lawsuits. Both of his have been victorious so far and his were very simple. Just give us the public records that prove you have been counting these ballots in a regular manner over the last several days that we can at least, you know, see a trail of custody, so that we can see that these have been handled properly. We've got accusations coming out that they have been replacing damaged ballots, you know, something that comes in the mail, torn, that they can't feed through the machine correctly, the supervisor is allowed to create a duplicate, but it has to be done with the supervision of multiple people so they can testify it's been done accurately. Meanwhile we got rumors that they have been doing the replacements without anybody in the room, running new ballots through and who knows what votes are being counted. HUCKABEE: You know, Matt, I think that is a great concern to everybody. We don't know where these ballots have been. It's not just being discovered, but where have they been? We thank you so much and we will be keeping our eye on your lawsuits to see how this all turns out. I hope you get some rest this weekend in spite of all of this. Great to have you with us. Well, the Pollack family has seen firsthand on how the incompetence in Broward County can have tragic results. They lost their beautiful girl Nadel Pollack, in the tragic Parkland shooting earlier this year. In the aftermath of that tragedy, we learned disturbing details about the incompetence of the sheriff's office in Broward County. Earlier today, to voice their displeasure with the rank corruption engulfing Broward, father and son, Andrew, and Hunter Pollack, led a protest. They join us now to tell us why. Andrew, Hunter, first of all, thank you for being with us. I know, this brings up some really painful memories for you due to the fact that you lost a daughter and a sister in the Parkland shooting. You think Broward County and the manner in which they handled that were a big part of that. Tell me why. ANDREW POLLACK, FATHER OF PARKLAND SHOOTING VICTIM: Well, let me tell you, governor, no one has been affected more by Broward County than myself and my son, and my family. My daughter was murdered in Broward County and, as I started looking into this investigation, I could explain to all the listeners out there how this is happening in Broward County. You have a superintendent in Broward who is a Democrat, who brought policies to Broward County that led to my daughter getting murdered. You've got a sheriff in Broward County who is a Democrat who is a failed leader. He has vote of no competence from his own union, a Democrat, then you've got an SOE, who is also a Democrat who has already been brought up on fraud. These leaders are all unethical, liberal Democrats that aren't capable of running, running a preschool let alone a County. So it's very important, when people see what's going on in Broward, these people are unethical, you've got a Broward teacher's union, all Democrats. You've got the school board, all Democrats. And to me, I have seen it unfold. You know, it's nothing new. We've had these problems in Broward and it leads to unethical, liberal Democrats, Mike. HUCKABEE: Andrew, I guess the question would be, if this level of incompetence is so evident, why do the voters put up with it? It doesn't seem to matter whether it's Democrat or Republican, this is not about the parties, it's about the people whose lives are being adversely affected. Why do the people in Broward County not demand a change and enact a change? A. POLLACK: Well -- (inaudible) (CROSSTALK) HUCKABEE: Go ahead, Hunter. HUNTER POLLACK, BROTHER OF PARKLAND SHOOTING VICTIM: If you look at our county -- a catastrophic hurricane just ruined the whole area, within hours, they were able to get their votes casted. Broward County right now is the laughing stock of the entire country. The governor stood by my family since the worst tragedy of our lives and we're going to stand by him. They will be dammed if they think they will steal this election from us. HUCKABEE: Yes. We love Rick Scott. He was there for our family and we'll be there for him in Broward. This is also very personal. With the death of meadow, this is not just an abstract thing to you. You lost your loved one. Your daughter, your sister. Do you hope, do you think that the voters of Broward County will finally get enough of this and say, we want to see something substantively changed in Broward County? A. POLLACK: Well, that is why the sheriff is scrambling right now because he knows we're going to start holding these officials accountable. To me, my life, I tell people all the time, the word that haunts me is accountability, Mike, and we haven't seen it in Broward County and it's about time, that you know, we're going to put some officials in place that are going to start holding these people accountable. You've got a superintendent -- HUCKABEE: I hope you can do it. We've got to go, but I want to say thanks to you and Hunter both for being here and sharing the deep, deep personal story that you've experienced. President Trump -- H. POLLACK: Thank you, governor. HUCKABEE: Thank you very much. HUCKABEE: President Trump has been voicing his displeasure about the recount efforts down in Florida from overseas. Coming up next, John Roberts is going to join us live from Paris. He is got the latest that he is hearing from the White House. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: There's bad things have gone on in Broward County. I think that people have to look at it very, very cautiously. (END VIDEO CLIP) HUCKABEE: President Trump is keeping a close eye tonight on the Florida ballot controversy in Broward County. At this hour the state's second biggest County is not just counting votes. They claim they are still finding votes and putting the results of a high stakes governor and Senate races into question. Chief White House correspondent John Roberts is live from Paris. He is with the president tonight. John, what's the latest? JOHN ROBERTS, CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Governor, good to see you tonight from Paris, early this morning, rather. Because its bad weather outside we had to come inside so we hope our facsimile of the Eiffel tower will suffice tonight. Clearly this is in important issue for the president. He woke up on Wednesday morning thinking that they had picked up five Senate seats, netted out four, but now a couple of those races in Arizona and Florida are in question and the President wants to get as many people under the Republican banner in the Senate as possible to confirm federal judges and maybe even a Supreme Court Judge. So on the way out the door from the White House to Paris this morning the President voiced his concerns about it. Listen to what he said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: What's going on in Florida is a disgrace. Go down and see what happened over the last period of time. 10 years, take a look at Broward County. Take a look at the total dishonesty of what happened with respect to Broward County. Broward County/election. There is a lot of dishonesty. (END VIDEO CLIP) ROBERTS: That was just the President getting warmed up, because as soon as he hit his seat in Air Force One he started tweeting, as soon as Democrats sit their best election stealing lawyer, Mark Elias to Broward County, they miraculously started finding Democrat votes. Don't worry, Florida, I'm sending much better lawyers to expose the fraud. The President went on. Rick Scott was up by 50,000 votes on Election Day and now they found many votes and he is only up 15,000 votes. The Broward effect. How come they never find Republican votes? The president also with an eye cast towards Arizona tweeting just out in Arizona, signatures don't match. Electoral corruption. Call for a new election. We must protect our democracy, but the President getting thrown some shame from Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum in Florida after the President said Andrew Gillum conceded. Now he is back in play because of this recount, Gillum tweeting, "what's embarrassing to democracy is not counting every vote and you, of course, referring to the President, count every vote." It's so important, again, because the President wants to get as many Republicans as possible in the senate, to get those Judgeships through, potential Supreme Court nominee as well, and he is got Ohio in his back pocket. Now with the win from DeWine so that sets himself up well for 2020. If it were to happen that Ron DeSantis in this recount were to lose the governorship in Florida to Andrew Gillum, well, that wouldn't put the President in as good a position for 2020 in the state of Florida. So that is why the president, even though he is asleep right now, probably somewhere in his mind, governor, thinking very hard about what's going on in Florida, particularly Broward County and Arizona tonight as well. HUCKABEE: John, thank you very much. But I doubt the President is asleep. Be watching for a tweet any moment now. All right. Joining me with reaction is someone who knows the recount situation in Florida all too well. Former White House press secretary for Bush 43, Ari Fleischer. Also with me, former Pennsylvania Congressman Jason Altmire. Ari, first to you. Why in the world are we back here? ARI FLEISCHER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, this gives me the he vee gee bees (ph) doesn't it? We are back her, because Broward County has a tradition and you are watching this tradition come into play. What bothers me so much about the nation going through this again as the entire integrity of our democracy and what rest on elections that are meaningful and accepted? And you can't after the night -- after the game is over and one team wins you can't say I've unilaterally decided we're going to go into extra innings and we're counting the runs differently. That appears to be what's happening in Broward County. HUCKABEE: Jason, how trouble is it that some of these ballots, we have no idea where they have been since Tuesday. There has been no chain of possession. I know you're a Democrat, but you're a fair one. You're a good guy. How does that hit you in terms of just an objective view, does that make you a little squeamish that we don't know where these ballots have been? JASON ALTMIRE, (D), FORMER PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR: There is no question that Broward County has a well-deserved reputation for infamous Election Day activities, and I don't mean anything criminal. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement has looked into this. I just think it's an incredible lack of communication and, for all the confrontation, for all the lack of communication, and I think everyone should agree we should count every vote, and, as I understand it, this process although it's taking longer than it should, is the normal process. The votes that came in up until the end of the early voting, they were counted, and that is what was reported by 7:30 on election night. Then the votes that they are counting now, and it is taking longer than it should and they will have to account for that, are the provisional and the absentee ballots that came in subsequent to that, up until Tuesday election day. Under state law those ballots have to be counted by tomorrow at noon. It appears they are going to reach that deadline. So I don't think anything mysterious or criminal has happened. It's just unfortunate that you have three races in Florida, it looks like, that effectively were fought to a tie and when you have eight million votes count within the statistical margin of error of basically a tie, it gets ugly and it's messy and it's not fun to watch, but unfortunately, that seems to happen more often than not because Florida is such a divided state. HUCKABEE: But does it pass the smell test? I mean, all the other counties including the ones hit by a hurricane were able to get their votes counted on time. Broward County can't, and we don't know where those ballots were. There was one box that a teacher found just in a storage area. Who had possession of that? How long was it sitting there unattended? FLEISCHER: That is exactly the point, governor. You have to have faith in the process and when something goes wrong, and things do go wrong this has to be a valid explanation and no valid explanation has been given. Nobody knows what is going on in Broward County. Why they were late. What ballots were found, why they were found late, why they were counted late. You just keep getting the additional votes, keep going and breaking for the Democrats. Now, maybe in a Democratic County you can say votes would normally break for a Democrat, but by what percentage? How come? These are the explanations, this is called transparency, and when you have one powerful commissioner in charge of the elections with a history of mischief in the elections, and gotten in trouble legally for destroying ballots previously, you have to scratch your head and say, is this on the up and up? And that is the problem. It's all moving in one direction, and it's not just within the statistical margin of error -- tens of thousands of votes have been moving. That is the problem. HUCKABEE: And Jason, we heard for two years, Russia, Russia, Russia. They are interfering in the election. They are mocking it up, where we don't know really who should have won. How do you not blame Republicans who want to say Broward, Broward, Broward that they have messed it up? ALTMIRE: Look, both Republicans and Democrats are incredibly frustrated with what's happened in Broward because as Ari Fleisher just said, this is a repeated incident. This is circumstance that seems to happen every election there and that is unfortunate and there needs to be a review of what happened and probably a change made at the top in that County, but I think governor Scott and Congressman DeSantis are still going to prevail, and it's unlikely you're going to see a 15,000 vote margin overturned in a hand recount. So at that point they should be happy that every vote is counted. Again, it was messy, it wasn't handled in the way it should have been. It wasn't communicated properly, but in the end in order to have a valid outcome of the election, you have to count every vote and that is what's happening. HUCKABEE: Well, thank you both. Glad to you have you both here. Go ahead. FLEISCHER: All right. Thank you. HUCKABEE: OK. Yes, we've got to run. We just found out that they have stopped the counting of the ballots tonight. They have -- recessed for evening and they will get some sleep. I'm sure they will need it. I am sure they want it. And then a lot of coffee in the morning and a lot more counting. All right. Coming up, the left wing media mocking prayer in a wake of tragedy. Believe it or not. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm sorry, but that should be outlawed. (END VIDEO CLIP) HUCKABEE: Next, we're going to talk with someone who is on-board with that sickening suggestion, to not have the prayer. That is coming up ahead. HUCKABEE: As families of the California shooting victims try to come to grips with their chief, some on the left say offering them thoughts and prayers is offensive. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: When you offer thoughts and prayers, you mock those who lost loved ones, because if you gave it any thought at all you would never walk away from any of these without figuring out a better way to deal with them. And prayer, you think leaving it to God is the answer? We pray for strength. We pray for wisdom, for resolve. But we clearly don't want to act on any of those here, so what are you praying for? What would it take? How about a stadium full of children of the most influential people in our society, all holding puppies, what if they were all shot and killed? Would we act -- CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNBC HOST: Thoughts and prayers? I'm sorry, but that should be outlawed. I know it's well-intended in some cases, but it's a throwaway line by a staffer who knocks off some script, some product, some wordage for somebody political to make it sound like they give a damn. (END VIDEO CLIP) HUCKABEE: Joining me now is Tony Perkins, the executive director of the Family Research Council, and Igor Volsky, the executive director of Guns Down. I want to start with you, Igor. Earlier today you tweeted this. You said, quote, "Screw thoughts and prayers," end quote. Why does that bother you so much? IGOR VOLSKY, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, GUNS DOWN AMERICA: Oh, it doesn't. Look, I pray. I know a lot of people who pray. My point is you've got to pair the prayer with action. The action I want to see is moving towards a future with fewer guns. It's making guns harder to get. It's about living in safer communities. I don't care if people pray. I just think that they should pair it with actually doing something to solve our problem. HUCKABEE: Why would you mock, though, the idea that people are trying to show their sympathy, their compassion? And nobody knows exactly what to do. They would love to get rid of people who have mental health issues and get them where they can get the help they need. There are a lot of things people would love to do, but if they don't feel the power to do it, do you think it's powerless to pray? VOLSKY: Not at all. I am all for prayer. I think people are helped through prayer and that's a good thing. I'm just saying it's not enough to just pray, because if it was, we wouldn't be having this problem anymore, but we do. And in terms of what we do, I think it's actually pretty simple. You look at what other nations have done. They have made guns harder to get. They have had licensing programs, they have raised the bar on gun ownership. And that's really what we should do here in. So in terms of what to do, we know what to do. The problem is, sometimes, and it's been for the last really 20, 30 years on the federal level, we failed to actually do it. So pair the prayer with action, and, governor, I'm a happy camper. HUCKABEE: Tony, when I hear Chris Cuomo giving me a theology lecture, when I hear Chris Mathews trying to tell me these are meaningless words, I have a visceral reaction to that. I would like to get yours. TONY PERKINS, PRESIDENT, FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL: I'm with you, governor. First off, let me say that we are praying for those families, those victims of this senseless violence. In fact, one of our team members lives in that community and their church had a prayer, one of these prayer events. Let's be honest. This is an attack, the same attack that Barack Obama started with his mocking of people who cling to their religion and their guns. This is more of the effort to try and quarantine religious expression within the four walls of our churches, in our synagogues. But here's a news flash. We'll get more of this. When we remove God from public, the public square, and we remove virtue, violence and vice rush in. And I'm tired of being lectured by liberals about their will liberal gun grab, because, look, in Washington D.C., where our office is, a gunman came in inspired by the Southern Poverty Law Center with 100 rounds of ammunition in a place that has some of the strongest gun laws in the country to kill us, and he shot one of our people. Thank God, and we did thank God, we prayed to him that the shooter was incapable of carrying out what he wanted to do. Yes, people in this country do pray, and to say that laws will solve this, no. The transformation of hearts will solve this. VOLSKY: Mike, listen, I'm not going to take morality lessons from a man who spent his entire life denying me the right to marry, denying me the right to serve in the military, denying me the right as a gay man to even exist because he would send me into conversion therapy. So put that aside, Tony. The fact is, what we need and what the majority of Americans support are bold laws -- are bold laws that make guns harder to get. PERKINS: Talk to Rahm Emanuel about that in Chicago. VOLSKY: That's what Americans want. PERKINS: No, it's not. VOLSKY: That's where Americans are at, Tony. PERKINS: That's what you and Nancy Pelosi want. HUCKABEE: Tony, let me give you the last word, because we're going to run out of time. Igor, let me interrupt you, because Tony, you've kind of come at him. He's got a right to round. Tony, take the last word. PERKINS: Look, there is a moral standard, and that's why they want it out of the public square. VOLSKY: Don't lecture me on morality. Don't do it. HUCKABEE: Let him finish, please. PERKINS: It's God's standard, and that's the problem. They want nothing to do with a moral standard. VOLSKY: I want safer communities. I want kids to come home safe, and that's what every single parent in this country wants. PERKINS: Let's let kids know that they are created in the image of God and they have a God that loves them, but we've kicked him out of our schools. VOLSKY: Listen, that's fine, but what they also need is to live in communities that aren't overflowing with guns, where people don't have access to weapons of war. That's what we actually need along with the prayer. HUCKABEE: Thank you both. I appreciate it. Coming up, reporters losing their cool, a waffle house needs a new ceiling, and changing your age? Maybe you might get some better dates. Raymond Arroyo will bring you tonight's Friday Follies, and that's coming up next. HUCKABEE: It's Friday, that means it's time for -- reporters undermine civility, and truly a Friday folly at a waffle house. Laura spoke with FOX News contributor Raymond Arroyo earlier to bring some sanity to this week's madness. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: The White House this week, and what it tells us about the country, the craziness and the press corps. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: What we saw the other day at the White House was a complete disgrace. And I want you to listen closely to this exchange. It explains a lot of what ails the White House press corps and the relationship with the president. CNN's Jim Acosta, watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I wanted to challenge you on one of the statements that you made on the tail end of the campaign, in the midterms. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Here we go. ACOSTA: Well, if you don't mind, Mr. President. That this caravan was an invasion. TRUMP: I consider it to be an invasion. ACOSTA: That's not an invasion. TRUMP: Honestly, I think you should let me run the country, you run CNN. And if you did it well your ratings would be much higher. OK, that's enough. ACOSTA: If I may ask one other question. (END VIDEO CLIP) HUCKABEE: There is a little bit there that a lot of people missed. Jim Acosta, I'm perfectly fine with he and any reporter gathered asking the president a tough question. That's what he's there for. You're representing the American people. But you are not allowed to become the debating society of the east room, and there he inserted his opinion and he said, that's not an invasion. Well, with all due respect, Jim, that's an opinion. Not an inquiry. You're there to ask questions. Conspire with your fellow White House correspondents. Ask the same question or in different ways. You need to get answers for the American people, but you are not allowed to debate the commander-in-chief and to turn this into some kind of roughhouse free-for- all which is what happened the other day. INGRAHAM: What he's turning into is an exchange about himself. This was really about Jim Acosta taking center stage away from the president. ARROYO: That's the problem with the cameras being -- INGRAHAM: This is a problem with a lot of these journalists, not all of them, but gone are the days of Brit Hume -- and I'm not saying it because Brit Hume works here, because I remember watching him when he was at ABC, when I was in college watching him, thinking, wow, OK, he gets it. He knows what he's doing. And Tom Brokaw in his day, these were real reporters asking real questions. ARROYO: I want to show you this. I call it the some people approach. Now, this is a "New York Times" reporter Yamiche Alcindor. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) YAMICHE ALCINDOR: On the campaign trail you called yourself a nationalist. Some people saw that as emboldening white nationalists. Now people are also saying -- DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I don't know why you'd say that. That's such a racist question. There are some people that say the Republican Party is seeing as supporting white nationalists because of your rhetoric. What do you make of that? TRUMP: I don't believe it. Let me tell you, that's a racist question. What you said is so insulting to me, it's a very terrible thing that you said. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: So this thing went back and forth. This was almost the entire press conference. INGRAHAM: Some people. ARROYO: Some people. INGRAHAM: Some say. That means she says. ARROYO: Exactly right. Who are these some people? INGRAHAM: What didn't she just say, I think you're x. I think you're a misogynist, racist, whatever it is. Don't say some -- what people? If I'm Trump I'm saying, give me some names. ARROYO: Give me exact people who say that. Quote a source. INGRAHAM: I like the fact that he turns the race thing back on them. They are the most race obsessed people out there. I love the fact he said no, that's a racist question. ARROYO: You know what this underscores -- decorum, manners, protocol. That means something, and you need it, particularly in the people's house. This is the people's house, and there were some reporters, this thing turned literally into a shout fest. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Sit down, please. Sit down. I didn't call you. I didn't call you. I'm not responding. I'm responding -- excuse me, I'm not responding to you, I'm talking to this gentleman. Will you please sit down? Excuse me. Excuse me. Would you please sit down? Please, go ahead. You rudely interrupted him. You rudely interrupted him. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: I wish the president had frankly walked out of the room. He should have said, you know what, you people don't know how to respect this institution and the time we're giving you. When you do, I'll be back. He should have walked out, because it dragged him into turning him into the corrector in chief. But this shows an incivility, a lack of respect for your obligation to represent the American people, and it's spiraling throughout society. What we saw at Tucker Carlson's house this week demonstrates this in bold and horrible colors. The idea that you can have a political difference with me, and I with you, and that gives me license to attack, harass, and drive you out of the public square and the marketplace, we've got to reject this. Not only as people in the media but as society. It's horrible. I didn't like it when people yelled at Pelosi the other day when she was going into that campaign event. People said use the f-word on her. I don't like this. This is a sick spectacle. It makes the White House -- it de means the White House and one of our treasured institutions. INGRAHAM: Raymond, we're going to do this segment coming up about a flag, just a flag mural being defaced. A woman said the wall is kind of worn down. We're going to put something nice on it. ARROYO: And they put a flag. INGRAHAM: They were in the middle of painting a beautiful American flag. People came along and threw paint at it and they basically threatened her beforehand. I don't want to give it away. But that's another example, intimidate. But when people call these protests -- these are not protests. These are criminal acts. They are acts of intimidation, and they are a type of political and rhetorical political violence. I don't like it. ARROYO: I've got to show you a different type of violence. This one kind of comedic. Down in Alabama where you're going, a guy goes up, breaks in. His name is Glen Bost. He takes off his pants, goes into the bathroom. INGRAHAM: Breaks in where. ARROYO: A waffle house. He ties his pants around the door to keep it shut, climbs into the ceiling tiles. He's trying to break into the waffle house office to rob them. And then this happened. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Be quiet, he's the maintenance guy. Hello. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Holy -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't go nowhere. Stay right there. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: He's in his underwear running around the waffle house, fell right through the ceiling. Here's my favorite part of this story. You know how they located him? He's still at large. They found his pants tied to the men's room. He left his wallet in the pocket. (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: So if you see a man in his skivvies with a waffle on his tuchus, call the Alabama police. INGRAHAM: First of all, is the waffle house known for having a lot of cash on hand? When I think of a place to rob, the waffle house -- loose change that they find in the seat cushion? ARROYO: I'm going to climb into the ceiling like tom cruise and lower myself into the office. What was he thinking? INGRAHAM: They're usually those ones that I had in my basement growing up, those K-Mart drop ceilings. ARROYO: That's what that was. INGRAHAM: You can hide stuff up there. They just drop right down. It's not actually a ceiling. ARROYO: This is ridiculous. I've got to tell you this quickly. A 69-year-old man, a Dutchman, is trying to -- he's suing the government because he wants to identify as a 49-year-old man. His name is Emile Ratelband, and he feels he's being discriminated against on these dating aps because when he puts he's 69 they don't swipe back, but if he put he were 49 then he might be a whole new man. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I feel -- I suffer with my age. When I'm really 49 again, I will have a baby again. I will buy a new car again. If I am that age again, I have hope again, I'm new again, and the whole future is there for me again. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: So he's saying they are discriminating against him, Laura. INGRAHAM: Ageism, it's called ageism. ARROYO: If they can redefine their gender, and reidentify as something different, he's saying I want to identify as a different age, he says he's trapped in an old man's body but he's got the body of a 25-year-old and the spirit of a 49-year-old. INGRAHAM: If it's all subjective is, then why couldn't I say like I want to be a gazelle in Botswana, graceful. As long as you can outrun the lions. ARROYO: Height, race, sex, these are things, not only is it important to define you, the state needs these things so they can serve you. Otherwise, I want to identify as a 70-year-old because I want those Social Security benefits. Bring them now. (END VIDEOTAPE) HUCKABEE: I love that. Actually, I'm imagining myself with six pack abs right now. Coming up, protestors swarm a pizza shop as vandals target an American flag mural in a small New York town. Laura talks to the owner of that shop. That's coming up next. HUCKABEE: Vandals in New Paltz, New York target a pizza parlor for the crime for painting an American flag mural. Laura spoke earlier with La Bello Pizza Bistro owner Maria Lisanti, and Joey Garcia, a veteran who organized a parade to support the flag. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Before you even had this mural painted, I guess it was kind of an old wall and you wanted to spruce it up, you had some problems, I understand, with protestors. And for people who don't know where this is, this is in New Paltz, New York, about 80 miles north of New York city. And it's 14,000, 12,000 people in a small town. But what were the protestors beef, what was their beef about the flag? MARIA LISANTI, OWNER, LA BELLA PIZZA BISTRO: Well, they didn't want a flag. They thought it meant a political position, and they were opposed. INGRAHAM: What political passion is a flag other than this is the United States of America? Did you engage in any conversations with them? LISANTI: No, I didn't. I really didn't interact with them at all. I just observed. INGRAHAM: Were they standing outside? Were they coming in and expressing themselves verbally to you, saying, I'm not going to ever order one of your pizzas or grinders, or what? LISANTI: I did have a few people come in and say they couldn't support my store any longer because they felt I took a political position, so they couldn't spend their money. INGRAHAM: Wait a second. Wait a second. OK, are these college kid, because I know you've got a college. You've got a state university, New Paltz, right, in town. LISANTI: Yes. INGRAHAM: Were they college kids? LISANTI: No, in particular, that was not a college kid that came in and told me that. INGRAHAM: That's a relief. OK, so that happened, and then fast forward to the paint splattered all over the mural. People across the country are wondering, why are we focused on this small town in New York and this one mural in this one defacement of a mural? And we're focusing on it because it's our flag, and it represents a lot. Joey, you're a veteran. You saw that this had happened the in your hometown. You decided to do what and why? JOEY GARCIA, VETERAN WHO ORGANIZED FLAG PARADE: So when I saw the pushback she was getting for putting an American flag mural up, I personally had a problem with that so I had the idea, why don't we have an event where we all just come together in support of the flag, in support of the mural, and show our support. And I wasn't sure how it was going to go, what kind of turnout we would get. We ended up having like 400 or 500 people came out. It was amazing. We all had our flags. We showed our support. It was a great, positive, peaceful day. INGRAHAM: And Joey, did you have a chance to speak to any of these brave protestors who were against this mural? Did you ever engage in any meaningful dialogue with any of them? GARCIA: I tried. There was not much meaningful dialogue to be had with most of them. The day of the event, we had some of them show up. INGRAHAM: I see them. Lovely. GARCIA: I tried to talk to them, tried to explain, hey, you guys have the right to be out here, so do we, let's keep it peaceful. They really didn't want to hear any of that. I was labeled many different names by people, some of these protestors, some people in the community for putting this walk together, but it was just about supporting our flag, our military, and our law enforcement. INGRAHAM: Joey, does it seem like these protestors, just from the way they appeared, it's an aggressive -- I don't know if it's a protest. It's an aggressive intimidation campaign. They are trying to intimidate Maria to put something else up there, to frighten her. That's why they have black flags. It looks more like ISIS than any type of peaceful protests that I was used to seeing growing up. So their goal is to do what, really? To have more dialogue or to shut it down? GARCIA: To shut it down. They disagree with it so they'd rather it just go away and not be there. And they didn't want us to be out there that day. Like I said, we have had 400 or 500 of us. There was like 20 of them. INGRAHAM: That's great. That's great. GARCIA: And we just did our thing. Our chants for USA, their chants, you can't say on TV. INGRAHAM: Lovely. Unity and diversity day, by the way, is something that has been celebrated in New Paltz, New York, unity and diversity day. How about a little unity behind our nation and the idea of liberty and freedom? GARCIA: I agree. LISANTI: Exactly. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, thank you so much for joining us tonight. We really, really appreciate it. And thank you, Joey, for supporting Maria, and I'm glad you raised all the money to redo the mural for the new wall. I'll have to check it out if I come up there. Guys, thanks so much. LISANTI: Thank you. (END VIDEOTAPE) HUCKABEE: Closing thoughts, next. HUCKABEE: Thanks to Laura Ingraham for allowing me to do the show tonight. Fortunately, I was able to do the show from Nashville where I do my weekend show each Saturday and Sunday at 8:00 and 11:00 p.m. eastern on TBN, and I hope you'll check it out. I fear that if I did this show in Washington, Jim Acosta of CNN might grab the microphone and refuse to let go. One lady he better not mess with is Laura Ingraham. Load-Date: November 10, 2018 End of Document Unacceptable Tactics of Radical Left-Wing Mob; Liberal Bias Exposed; Latest Dirty Dem Tricks Exposed; The State Of Florida Is In Controversy Right Now After Broward County Supervisor Of Elections, Brenda Snipes, Refuse To Let Both Parties See The Recount Documents, And Now Re- Elected Governor In Florida, Governor Scott Filed A Lawsuit Against Her To Reveal What Hocus-Pocus Snipes Is Doing; Tucker Carlson's Home Was Swarmed By Anti-Fa Protesters And Calling Him Racist And Shouting Threats; Robert Mueller Is Reportedly Has Begun To Wrap Up His Final Reports In The Russia Investigation Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 8, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7362 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Gregg Jarrett, Sebastian Gorka, Sara Carter Guests: Rick Scott, Matt Schlapp, Dan Bongino, Jim Jordan Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Wait, what -- by the way, this is like all Brian, all the time, and I don't want any excuses, you are supposed to be up in six hours. BRIAN KILMEADE, FOX NEWS HOST, "FOX & FRIENDS": Right. HANNITY: You know, getting ready for your show. No excuses, no sleeping in, no Doocy get extra segment stuff. We are going to be watching in the movement morning. KILMEADE: I'm going to be dedicating all three hours to Sean Hannity. However, you're going to be sleeping through it because you do your show, and you go to the post-party. HANNITY: I'll be wait -- I don't sleep. All right, Brian. Good show tonight. We'll watch in the morning. A crazy busy, insane at news night. Welcome to "Hannity". Thank you for being with us. Two days ago, you, we, the people, went to the polls, we settled our political differences at the ballot box, remember? Well, this is the lifeblood of our great constitutional republic. But sadly, we have some extremists on the left clearly preferring mob rule. We will lay this out tonight. We had last night an angry group of purported Antarctica's surrounding the home of our friend, fellow Fox news host Tucker Carlson. This is where he lives, his wife, his children. They tried to break down his door, vandalizing his house. Now, they were shouting threats through a bullhorn. His wife was inside, alone, locked herself in a pantry, had to call the police. Coming up, we're going to respond to the continuing angry, left wing mob in this country. These are unacceptable tactics. And it better stop. Somebody is going to get hurt or worse, as I have been warning. Also tonight, we will show you how MSNBC conspiracy TV, fake news CNN, once again at cheerleading for Robert Mueller to find something, anything on Trump. By the way, the clearest evidence we have, they weren't too happy with you and Donald Trump on Tuesday night. We also have a message for Jim Acosta, conspiracy theorist Rachel Maddow tonight, and we'll show you the latest dirty trick tactics from the Democrats, including a plan to impeach Justice Kavanaugh. Yes, they want to go back there. And just breaking moments ago, Rick Scott filed a lawsuit against Broward County, he should have. We'll explain it in detail. And bring you important updates from the sad, horrific shooting that affected a friend of this program in California. Stay tuned. It's time for a busy night, breaking news, opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. You've heard me say this over and over again. There is no place for violence, threats, intimidation, in the United States of America. For years, many on the left have outright vilified President Trump -- and by the way, anyone associated with him, any Republican, any conservative. We have seen it all throughout this election season -- Nazi comparisons, racism, sexism, and really far worse. Prominent Democrats Maxine Waters, Cory Booker, urging followers to get in other people's faces, the faces of their political opponents, and of course, create crowds, follow them into grocery stores and gas stations and department stores, and tell them that they're not welcome anywhere anymore. Get your crowds. Now, we have some deranged far left lunatics are following suit. Before the election, what did we see? DHS Secretary Nielsen run out of a restaurant, Sarah Sanders with her kids run out of not one but two restaurants. So, too, Senator Ted Cruz with his wife, Pam Bondi accosted at a movie theater, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, a guy banging on his desk, followed him through airports, Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, his wife, with him and literally accosted on a number of occasions. Kevin McCarthy, his office vandalized. Two Republican politicians punched in Minnesota. One victim, a serious concussion, the other, a woman. And we had, just before the election, packages, white powder, mailed it to the president, his son, Don Jr., his wife, Mattis, Wray, Gina Haspel, Fox News has also been a target of the mob. We just saw Brian Kilmeade -- well, he was a stocked through the streets of New York City, harassed, followed in a subway, called out in a subway. Now, I've had more threats in my personal life than you can ever imagine. I don't talk about it often. Last night, or friend, Tucker Carlson, targeted at his own home in Washington, D.C. Angry group, far left extremist surrounding his house, his wife, home alone, having to barricade herself inside the house and calling the police. But not before the mob literally cracked his front door, throwing themselves against it, vandalizing his driveway, and his car with spray paint, shouting threatening messages over a bullhorn. This is your radical left-wing Democratic Party tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CROWD: Carlson, we are outside your home, and we want you to know where you sleep at night. Mail bomb. Tucker Carlson, we will fight. We know where you sleep at night. Tucker Carlson, we will fight. We know where you sleep at night. Racist scumbag, leave town. Racist scumbag, leave town. Racist scumbag, leave town. Racist scumbag, leave town. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: "We know where you sleep a night", mail bomb? OK, those people do need to be arrested. This is the illegal behavior, and totally unacceptable. Now, thank God his children were not inside, we feel badly for his wife tonight. This mob needs to be put in jail. Now, another far left group, they have doxxed the personal information of Tucker, Ann Coulter, yours truly. In other words, what they did in the course of the night -- well, related to, or they say they are related to, groups like Antifa and others, that's what they say. They published our home addresses online for everybody to see. Why? They are spurring threats, violence, intimidation -- by the way, for me, I'm not living my life in fear, I won't be intimidated by nobody. No one is going to silence me. I have been through this for most of my career. I feel sorry for people that are now seeing what others have lived through for a long time, but I do have a serious warning. Nothing good is going to come out of this. This mob mentality has got to stop. Somebody is going to get hurt or worse. Now some of the Democrats finally, even some on CNN and MSNBC, are speaking out against what happened to Tucker. And, by the way, earlier tonight, Tucker thanked everyone for on either side of the aisle for their support, but with all due respect, they are a day late and they are a dollar short. Remember, before the election, Democrats were silent, crickets, following all of the cases of mob rule against a Sarah Sanders, Pam Bondi, Kirstjen Nielsen, CNN was busy playing the word police, if you recall, chastising anyone who uses the term "mob" to describe a mob. Remember this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you see people like Ted Cruz getting chased out of restaurants by a mob -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, you're not going to use the mob word here. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's totally a mob. It is without a doubt. There is no other word for it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Matt, Matt -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a -- go watch. Put up the video tape -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A mob? Stop, stop. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That is mob behavior. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How many times -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Everybody, stop. Everybody, stop. Matt, we already did that. We already said they weren't mobs. No, it's not mob or hate behavior. It's people who are upset and they're angry with the way the country is going, and the policies. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, so they're -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Will you let me finish, Matt, please, before you jump in, OK? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The rhetoric on that channel has been so over the top, so insane, and it continues. Now, nobody deserves to be stalked, harassed, and threatened by an angry mob. Now, sadly, even one of their anchors is being threatened. We stand in solidarity with him tonight. We don't want everybody -- let me be very clear, leave everybody alone. And I've been saying that somebody is going to get hurt, could be worse. This needs to be condemned on both sides of the aisle by every media outlet. And, by the way, there's plenty of -- well, vilification of political differences. I'm not against any free speech. Words are words. Threats are a very different thing. Let's not create the crowds, follow people, cabinet members, into department stores, gas stations, and so on, and tell them they are not wanted anywhere anymore, or to kick them, or we can't be civil. Let me tell you if you are a conservative tonight, let me say this. And let's say you see somebody you don't like it, politically, someone you disagree with. Leave them alone. Leave them alone. They are with their families, they are eating, leave them alone. We don't want to be like these left-wing radicals. What we are now seeing is downright apocalyptic coverage from fake news at CNN, MSNBC -- by the way, only say fake news or use a conspiracy TV or people chant that "CNN sucks", they kind of do, but that's not a threat. That is an opinion. Those are words. By the way, others -- all of this conspiracy around Jeff Sessions departure, they obviously -- by the way, a great indicator, they weren't happy about Tuesday, they don't want to talk about the blue -- the blue little trickles. So they are back to their old conspiracy theories. That means they are not happy with the we, the people, again, and Donald Trump, again. In other words, that the world was shocked, again, they didn't get what they want. Many are now claiming that this is an attempt to meddle with their golden goose, the Mueller witch hunt. There you have it, MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, get this, she is now actively promoting -- and this NBC News, she says in interviews, she is a journalist -- I say I'm a talk show host, being a talk show host, I do news, I do opinion, I do straight interviews, I do debates, I give strong opinion -- we are the whole newspaper. When you say you are a journalist, you are supposed to be fair and balanced. You are supposed to give it right on the middle. She is not a journalist. Now she has partnered with MoveOn.org, and the pro-Mueller protester. This is what she tweeted: It's happening, this is glass in case of emergency plan to protect the Mueller investigation, 5:00 p.m. local time, protest tomorrow, Thursday, November 8th, we knew this would happen at some point, the day has arrived. This is the group she is supporting, moveon.org. In case you forgot, they are the group that put out -- remember, General Betray Us, that ad? In 2004, they made an ad that compared George Bush to Adolf Hitler. This is the group that NBC wants to align themselves with? And, by the way, there is a lot more than even mod. Just pick this up before, President Bush, Adolf Hitler, oh, filmmaker Michael Moore partners with them, and they want to, well, expletive punch to burn at this mother down. That's the group NBC and conspiracy theorist Rachel Maddow is now helping to organize, promote, radical leftist protest. Tom Brokaw, what's going to happen when someone gets hurt at your break the glass moment led by Rachel? The on-air coverage was even more dramatic, even sicker, take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a slow motion, almost a self-coup by which a president pulls power to himself that he is not supposed to have to protect himself. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What we saw today is a kind of coup against the rule of law, a kind of action that you see in a tin-pot dictatorship. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There has been a slow motion Saturday night massacre starting with the firing of James Comey, and now with the firing of the attorney general. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are we seeing a kind of gangster mentality at the White House and trying to control the DOJ? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I really do think this is a national emergency. I don't think you can overstate the gravity of the situation, and it's incumbent upon, you know, really everyone in public life to respond to this like it's an emergency. People -- you know, the broad public, this is the time to maybe take to the streets. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president's panicked firing of his attorney general has moved Donald Trump one step closer to impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They always have a opinion of the White House counsel, they know exactly what they were doing, as I said earlier, to plan like a murder. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, of course, the mainstream media, they are very worried tonight. According to reports, Mueller is now writing his final report. The probe should finally be coming to an end. No evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. We do have evidence of Hillary Clinton paying for Russia lies, and that became a fraud on the FISA court. That also became the basis to lie to the American people to help Hillary win, propagated by top people in the intel community. And then, course, they use it a basis of circular reporting so that they can get Robert Mueller appointed, Comey leaking. Now, regardless of the outcome or the timeline of Mueller's witch hunt, Democrats in the House, they are still planning to wage a never ending, full-scale investigation into everything. Let me make you a promise tonight. We will be watching every day. Let's see if they do anything for you, we, the people. And, by the way, they just want to attack Trump, they don't care about anything else, that's their top agenda item. Jerrold Nadler, likely chair of the judiciary committee, overheard on a train from New York to D.C. bragging about his plan to launch full-scale investigations again after two years into Russian collusion and plot to impeach Judge Kavanaugh, good luck with that. He is not the only Democrat planning endless investigations, likely incoming House Intel chair -- he's really the biggest liar in Congress -- Adam Shifty Schiff wants to be a TV host on MSNBC, he has a similar plans. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: While the Republicans walked away from the investigation, the Democratic minority has continued, and we have been bringing witnesses and, we've been learning more. And that work won't stop when we take the majority, but we will be able to get answers to Republicans who are unwilling to pursue, records that the Republicans wouldn't ask for. The question though, that I don't know whether Mueller has been able to answer because I don't know whether he has been given the license to look into it is, where the Russians laundering money through the Trump organization? And that will be a very high priority to get an answer to, for the reason that if they were doing this, it's not only a crime, but it's something provable. It's something that the Russians can hold over the head of the president of United States. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Let's not forget about congresswoman -- "impeach 45", reclaiming my time, reclaiming my time, Maxine Waters. She is now hoping to become the next House Financial Services chairwoman. Instead of working for the betterment of all Americans, she is plotting revenge, impeachment, and as the head of that committee, she would be overseeing Wall Street. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: They say Maxine, please don't say impeachment anymore. And when they say that, I say, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment. (LAUGHTER AND CHEERS) WATERS: And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them, and you tell them they are not welcome. And with this kind of inspiration, I will go and take Trump out tonight. And I will fight every day until he is impeached. Impeach 45. This is a bunch of scumbags, that's what they are. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Those are very strong words, Congresswoman. WATERS: Organized around making money. The fact that he is wrapping his arms around Putin, while Putin is continuing to advance into Crimea. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, it's going to be an entertaining two years, our job, we will be keeping an eye on all of them. Now, Democrats -- they're now taking their cues from their de facto leader, of course, Nancy Pelosi, and her track record, her leadership, is a suspect at best. Take a look. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what it is in it, away from the fog of the controversy. If what do you're doing is cutting the taxes at the high-end and therefore not being allowed to invest in the future, you're doing a great disservice to our country. We all agree that President Trump's decision to end a DACA is a despicable act of political cowardice. Donald Trump is a job loser. The debate on health care is life death. Well, I wanted -- hey, I would love a single-payer, but we're not there. In terms of the bonus that corporate America receives, versus the crumbs that they are giving to workers to kind of put the schmooze on is so pathetic. So what? They are going to say, you give them stock, it is going to be a slippery slope? I certainly hope so. The priorities of the American people, they are not what President Bush -- excuse me -- I'm so sorry, President Bush. We see nothing -- that I can work with President Bush on. The president's fitness for office is something that is being called into question. I'm very worried about his fitness. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Do you see anything there indicating Democrats have plans to make your life better? Of course not. They are on a path for revenge, and this is all about a quest for power. By the way, you know, Obama lost a 69 seats between the House and Senate in 2010, and Bill Clinton lost 60. Donald Trump picked up Senate seats. Now, for years, one of the biggest lies of the Democratic Party, obviously, CNN. Their constant destructive anti- Trump coverage, it's second by second, minute-by-minute, hour by hour. It's unprecedented. And leading the way, well, you got chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta. And yesterday, his permanent White House press pass was revoked after making physical contact with a White House intern during an extremely controversial line of questioning. It wasn't really a question. He wanted to debate the president and not give anyone else time. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM ACOSTA, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Mr. President, if I may ask one more question. Are you worried -- DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: That's enough. That is enough. That's enough. (CROSSTALK) ACOSTA: Pardon me, ma'am. TRUMP: That's enough, put down the mic. ACOSTA: Mr. President, are you worried about indictment coming down in this investigation? REPORTER: Mr. President -- TRUMP: I tell you what? CNN should be ashamed of themselves having you work for them. You are a rude, terrible person. You shouldn't be working for CNN. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And then the president defended Sarah Sanders. How many times does the president of the United States have to say that's enough before CNN respects the office of the presidency? Many on the left rushing to the defense of their anti-Trump hero, Jim Acosta, and hosts on "The View" actually accused the White House intern who's just trying to get the microphone back of assaulting Acosta. Pretty unbelievable, but true. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What I saw was a battery, not by Jim Acosta, but by the White House aide. When you are holding something -- if I may, if you are holding something you snatch this from me, this cup is now an extension of me, and that means you have battered me, you have assaulted me. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, so you are blaming the woman. You are blaming the woman -- (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Intern should be arrested for battery? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm telling you what the law is. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That's what you call Trump derangement syndrome. That's a mass psychosis, and without a doubt, Acosta deserves to be banned from the White House. He has earned it. He is unprofessional. It's outrageous. It's insulting. He wants to argue with the president. He gets more airtime, and even though claiming to be an unbiased journalist, he always seems to make the story about himself, rarely asking questions, treating his press briefings as debates. He constantly accuses Trump and his administration of everything, racism, sexism. Acosta is a self-serving liberal hack with zero journalistic integrity. But don't take my word for it. We've got some of his greatest hits. Watch them in action. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ACOSTA: I'm not sure if this press conference was ever on the rails, as you heard numerous times during this news conference, the president was just not in touch with reality. The people here who work at this White House, all the way up to the president, evidently believe that journalists are the enemy of the people, literally, the enemy of the people. I'll say that the press is not the enemy of the people. And, you know, I think that maybe we should make some bumper stickers, make some buttons. The law can be different than border security, Sarah. SARAH SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: No, actually, I don't. ACOSTA: Border security can mean drones. It can mean agents. It can mean more fencing. It doesn't necessarily mean a physical -- SANDERS: And that is part of the negotiation we expect Congress to have. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Bumper stickers? OK, a shameful act. He is supposed to be a journalist, that is a charade. You do a disservice to real journalist in the press corps, and it is a disservice to the American people. We will have more in a moment. Let's turn to another story. We'd go to Florida, now bracing for a massive recount tonight. Defeated Democratic Senator Bill Nelson moving ahead on his recount plans after losing to Republican Rick Scott. Rick Scott will join us in just a moment. Currently, Nelson trails by nearly 20,000 votes, but that is still close enough for the mandatory recount. How Nelson has hired, get this, Marc Elias, name sound familiar? He is the Clinton campaign attorney at Perkins Coie that paid Fusion GPS for the dirty Russian dossier on Trump. So, just to be clear, the lawyer at the center of the major recount effort happens to be the same one at the center of the biggest corruption scandal abuse of power scandal in our history. He has organized an effort behind a dirty dossier for Clinton, he is at the very center of the Democrats' efforts to use campaign op research to malign Trump before and after the election. Now he has hired Bill Nelson. And now, it looks like the Florida governor's race could also be headed for a recount despite Democratic Andrew Gillum conceding the race to Ron DeSantis. Now, Marco Rubio, rightly sounding the alarm, warning of these possible tricks in Broward County, saying Broward election supervisors, ongoing violation of Florida law, requiring timely reporting, isn't just annoying incompetent, it has now opened up the door for lawyers to come in here and steal a seat in the U.S. Senate and Florida cabinet. There are so many unanswered questions. Why can't Broward and Palm Beach report like every other county in Florida? Now, what is also taking place, by the way, why is it taking so long to count the votes? Where serious, mysterious, uncounted ballots, where are they all coming from? Don't forget, a federal judge recently ruled the county elections chief Brenda Snipes, illegally destroyed ballots, that was in the Wasserman Schultz 2016 primary race during a pending lawsuit. Snipes, she is still in charge of Broward County. Moments ago, learned that Governor Scott filed a lawsuit, rightly so, against her over serious violations of the law. He will join us. Finally, tonight, we end with a sad and tragic story. The White House flag lowered at half-staff today, in remembrance of the 12 victims of this morning's senseless shootings in Thousand Oaks, California. One of the victims was California Sergeant Ron Helus. He was the first one on the scene, responding right after. Our good friend, Adam Housley, he also lost a niece in all of this. Our thoughts and prayers go out to everybody there. All right. We have a lot more to get to tonight. When we come back, Rick Scott will join us as what we now see, the law broken again in Broward and Palm Beach. We'll explain next. HANNITY: All right. New tonight, Governor Rick Scott filed a lawsuit against Palm Beach and Broward counties for lack of access to public records regarding voting numbers. This comes as a recount now looms over his race for the U.S. Senate. Joining us now, the man himself, Governor Rick Scott. Governor, I'm looking at these numbers appeared on election day, you were up 57,000 votes. What is the number now? GOV. RICK SCOTT (R), FLORIDA: Now, it's down to 15,000 votes. So it is clear we have some left-wing activists, we've got some Democratic D.C. lawyers. They're down here for one purpose, to steal this election. Somehow, the Broward County supervisor -- HANNITY: Governor, I looked at the numbers, you were told five different numbers. Florida law says that all absentee early voting numbers must be reported within 30 minutes of the polls close in, correct? SCOTT: Absolutely. HANNITY: In those numbers -- SCOTT: Sean, they found 78,000 new votes since election day, two days ago, in Broward County, and 15,000 more votes in Palm Beach. We don't know how many more votes that they are going to come up with, but it sure appears that they are going to find as many votes as I can take to win the election. HANNITY: Right. SCOTT: So I have asked the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to immediately do an investigation. We filed lawsuits. We're going to fight this and we're going to win. HANNITY: Well, she, in 2016, her office posted results and a half hour before the polls close, that's an election violation law -- broken. She was sued for leaving amendments off the ballot. She also in the case of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, why is this person even working there? SCOTT: Well, what I have done is, I have asked for an investigation -- but we have examples -- the Palm Beach supervisor won't allow normal party officials that are supposed to be reviewing ballots, they are not allowing them to do it properly, that's a violation of the law. They're supposed to report all these results, they are not. But how did they come up with 70,000 more votes? Just in Broward, and 15 in Palm Beach. No other counties have these problems. We had a horrible hurricane in the Panhandle, it didn't happen there. The lawyers that come down have said, they're not to -- they are here to win the election, not here to say, I want to find out what the results I make sure it is a fair result. They're down here for one reason-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But governor, wait a minute. SCOTT: -- and they have said that, to win the election code HANNITY: Twenty-seven days -- 27 days ago, the Panhandle was smashed with one of the worst hurricanes we've seen. They got their votes in on time and they ended up doing this. I cannot -- to me, this is the single biggest abuse of power in an election I've seen, and they have Marc Elias, the guy at the heart of the whole Perkins Coie, Fusion GPS, Clinton bought and paid for dossier, leading the way? SCOTT: Yes. I mean, they are down here, he is down here for one purpose, to steal this election. And he said he is down here to win this election. He doesn't care about anything else. HANNITY: He's down there to win it. SCOTT: So, we won -- yes. We won. I'm going to be the U.S. senator, I'm going to fight this all the way. We are going to do everything we can, we're looking at every legal remedy we can exercise, we are going to fight this and we are going to win this. This is wrong what they're doing. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And every other county except Broward and Palm Beach did it the right way. Every other county, and they've done this before. (CROSSTALK) SCOTT: Every other camp. HANNITY: And she, why does she still have a job? SCOTT: Well, she is definitely elected in these counties. And the -- but think about it, some of these other supervisors they did it the right way are Democrats, also. So, every other county, Republican or Democrat, those supervisors did it the right way. These two didn't, they violated the law. We're going -- I've asked for a law enforcement to do an investigation, and we have already filed a lawsuit, we're going to make sure we win this. I won this election for the benefit of the people of the state, their will is not going to be thwarted. HANNITY: I'm never seen anything like this in my life. It is obviously corrupt, obviously laws were broken, obviously there are shenanigans here, I believe you and Senator Rubio are 100 percent correct, we will follow this everything will second of every day now. Because the people of Florida deserve their just vote, which they got, and you won this race hands down, and this is -- this is a disgrace that they get to do this. Election and, election out. Somebody needs to go to jail here. If this keeps happening, you keep violating the law, you don't respond, every other county response, then you change your numbers again and again and again, something is not right. All right, governor, thank you. Joining us now, author of "The Russia hoax," number one New York Times bestseller, Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett. And from the American Conservative Union chairman Matt Schlapp. We know a lot about Marc Elias, don't we, Gregg Jarrett? GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Yes. HANNITY: And we also know that there are laws in Florida, every other county abided by them, except of these two counties-- JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: -- which have a history of never abiding by them. JARRETT: You know, the conduct of Brenda Snipes in Broward County is beginning to stink like a bucket of fish in the sun. I looked at the statutes in Florida, I look at the governor's lawsuit, he is absolutely correct, she has broken the law multiple times and it's only been two days. She was supposed to hand over vote totals, she hasn't. The number of ballots canvassed and to be canvassed, she hasn't. And then the most egregious is under the law, the governor is allowed to make a written request to look at the public records of this, she refused to do that. So, she has a long and distinguished history of violating the law, you know, judge, as you pointed out in your monologue, I already found several months ago, that she unlawfully destroyed ballots, and now the sudden discovery of 78,000 ballots, is she creating ballots, whereas before she destroyed ballots? So, I think the governor is right, this looks like an attempt -- especially with Hillary's lawyers involved, to steal this election. HANNITY: It is a disgrace, I've never heard of anything like this. Matt Schlapp, just imagine for a second if Republicans ever tried to pull this off, election after election after election, how come every other county got this right? Even the Panhandle, which was devastated 27 days earlier? MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: Well, because Republicans follow the rules, Sean, and you said this has never happened before, this seems particularly egregious, but this actually does happen. The more times they -- the more times they count these ballots, the narrower this is going to get. We've seen this when Norm Coleman ran for Senate in Minnesota with the big, urban populations, we saw this when Dino Rossi ran for governor a couple of times as a Republican in Washington, when John Thune first ran for the Senate. This actually happens more times than it gets coverage, and here's what I know after spending 36 days in the Florida recount in 2000. The more they count then the worst it's going to be for Rick Scott. He is doing the exact right thing. Ronna Romney at the RNC is doing the exact right thing, take them to court. Shine a spotlight on this -- the fact that they are counting these ballots, as Gregg side, behind closed doors without a Republican observer and a Democratic observer, is completely against the spirit and the law, and this must stop, or they will steal another one. HANNITY: It is impossible to just out of thin air, go from 60,000 votes, 70,000 votes, to 80,000 votes. SCHLAPP: They have done it before. JARRETT: Not without corruption. SCHLAPP: That's right. That's right, Gregg. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Marc Elias, Perkins Coie, Fusion GPS-- SCHLAPP: Yes. HANNITY: -- the biggest corruption and abuse of power scandal. Gee, they picked the right lawyer for this one, I can't wait to see what happens here. People of Florida, pay attention, this is serious. All right. When we come back -- and we'll stay on it. Sebastian Gorka and Dan Bongino react. Anti-fa now showing up at Tucker Carlson's home. And they are literally releasing the names of prominent conservatives. Why? To intimidate, harass, something horrible will happen if we don't stop it. Straight ahead. HANNITY: As we reported earlier, Tucker Carlson's home was swarmed by anti-fa protesters shouting threats, trying to break down his doors. His wife was in the house. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (CROWD CHANTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Joining us now with reaction, author of the bestselling book "Spygate," former Secret Service agent and NRA TV contributor, Dan Bongino. Also, another bestseller, "Why We Fight," Fox News national security strategist, Sebastian Gorka. I'm looking at this, they were quiet about all of this when Sarah Sanders, Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen, two Republicans punched, one a woman in Minnesota, rocks thrown through Kevin McCarthy's office, Ted Cruz, Ted Cruz's wife, you see these tactics, Dan, somebody is going to get hurt. They even screamed "mail bomb," "we know where you sleep." That is a threat. Shouldn't that be, is that against the law? DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: Absolutely. I mean, they vandalized his house, Sean. I mean, this was - - this was gross. This was disgusting. This was filthy. But Sean, I have personal expense with this. I've been in your studio in New York, and I have been in Tucker's in D.C. Many times. I've been on your set with liberals. There have been some spicy debates on your set, and you know what happens in the green room? Everybody shakes hands and says I'll see you the next time. There's got to be a red line here. You know, I appreciate some of the talking heads on the Democrat side, who spoke out against this, but this has to be universal, Sean. I mean, when this pipe bomb guy recently-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, they reported that one because they thought they could blame that on Trump, like the synagogue shooting-- BONGINO: Right. HANNITY: -- they can blame on Trump. BONGINO: Of course. HANNITY: The synagogue shooter was anti-Trump because he is pro-Israel. BONGINO: Yes! But -- and the condemnation was universal on our side. People have to speak out and draw a red line against this. What happened at Tucker's house last night was an abomination, it was disgusting. HANNITY: You know, and let me say there was a report on Mediaite tonight, Dr. Gorka, that a CNN anchor apparently is receiving threats. No conservative -- we don't want you, you are not a conservative if you are sending threats to people. Period. No, we have no room for it. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: No. HANNITY: Now, we have over at a conspiracy TV MSNBC, they've -- Rachel Maddow is now encouraging people to go out and protest today, part of an Moveon.org effort that's a general betray us, the same people that you know, featured elderly women vowing to, you know, private part punch Mitt Romney and burn this mother f-er down. And ads comparing Bush to Hitler. So, this is the network Tom Brokaw is proud of? This is the -- this person, Maddow, claiming she is a news person, really? GORKA: No, she is not a news person, Sean. There is a direct line between Jim Acosta's behavior at that press conference and what happened at our friend Tucker's house, these people are repeatedly crossing the line of what is acceptable. Whether you are a reporter in the White House or whether you are a demonstrator in D.C., they are undermining or they are broadening what is called the Overton window, meaning the list of things that are deemed acceptable. This behavior -- Jim Acosta's behavior -- or the behavior at Tucker's house, would have been deemed absolutely unacceptable just two years ago. But when you get Maxine Waters-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, they're releasing -- they are throwing up, it's doxing, they're putting up the addresses of people like me-- GORKA: Right. You. HANNITY: -- Tucker, Ann Coulter. And I understand. You know, I will say another thing here, you know, when people -- CNN will say we are called fake news. They are, they are not news. They are opinion. They lie about it. (CROSSTALK) GORKA: Well, Larry King said it. HANNITY: And when crowds chant "they suck," that's not violent. Or the president says "fake news is the enemy of the people," I take that to me, you are performing a disservice by lying to people. That's all that is. (CROSSTALK) GORKA: They're not-- HANNITY: And those are words. This is a call to action, like Maxine Waters. GORKA: Yes, this, this is the direct result, the vandalism, the intimidation of a woman by herself at home, is a direct result of Maxine Waters' incitement to do this, to harass people who are conservatives, and also Eric Holder, former attorney general of the Obama administration. HANNITY: Yes. I have -- I'll give you the last word, Dan. But I have a word for conservatives. BONGINO: Yes. HANNITY: Don't kick them, don't get in their faces. If you see people you disagree with. Don't create crowds, don't follow people into stores, leave them alone. Leave them alone, leave every liberal alone, leave every reporter alone. Leave every elected official alone. BONGINO: Sean, it didn't work that well for Republicans in the election and the midterms. Where were the Republicans breaking store windows in the Starbucks and attacking people? The answer, they were at work, going to work and taking care of their families. Take a little lesson from that on the far left. It's how politics should work. HANNITY: They were dead silent, Pam Bondi, Sarah Sanders, Secretary Nielsen, Ted Cruz, Ted Cruz's wife, they were silent. Now they are actually organizing it on MSNBC, and partnering with Moveon.org? Bush is Hitler? It's pretty disgusting. BONGINO: Not journalism. HANNITY: All right. When we come back, there are reports, Robert Mueller has begun to write his report on, quote, "alleged Russia collusion." Jim Jordan, Sara Carter straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Following Jeff Sessions' departure from the DOJ, Matt Whitaker is now the acting A.G., he will oversee the Russia probe. The Democrats are apoplectic. This comes as new reports claim that Robert Mueller has begun to write his final report in the investigation. Here with reaction, Republican Congressman Jim Jordan, Fox News contributor Sara Carter. To me, a new attorney general also means -- and the president said he is not going to stop, congressman, he is not going to stop the investigation. So that is just hysteria and lying again from the left. That they weren't happy with the election results, and now they are going there. REP. JIM JORDAN, (R) OHIO: Right. HANNITY: The question is, will a new A.G. look at real Russia collusion with real evidence, real FISA abuse fraud, real abuse of powers with the powerful tools of intelligence, surveillance, unmasking, leaking raw intelligence, the exoneration before investigation of Hillary; Hillary breaking the law by having top-secret information classified information on a secret server? Is not going to happen? JORDAN: Let's hope so. I mean, the short answer is we don't know, but this idea that the left is saying Mr. Whitaker should recuse himself is ridiculous. I mean, think about this. Rod Rosenstein is overseeing the Mueller investigation. Rod Rosenstein wrote the memo for firing Comey, overseeing special counsel Mueller, who is looking into the firing of Comey. And he doesn't have to recuse himself? We said he should recuse himself a long time ago, but somehow because Whitaker wrote something along time ago, critical of the special counsel, he does have to recuse -- it makes no sense. I hope they investigate the very things you're talking about, because that's where the abuse took place. When one party used an opposition research document by the other party to go to a FISA court to get a warrant to spy on a president's campaign that is as wrong as it gets. HANNITY: By the way, we have breaking news. Law enforcement is looking into another big corruption scandal having to do with election fraud in Broward and Palm Beach. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: Wow. That's going to be interesting. Let me go to the law, as pointed out by our friend, Gregg Jarrett. That was a tweet, by the way, by the president. Under Federal Vacancies Act 5USC 3345, Sara, the president can appoint a person holding a Senate confirmed office, or an officer, or employee of such executive agency who has served in a position in such agency for not less than 90 days. He has served for more than 90 days. There are some really dumb lawyers on TV that don't get it. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: They just don't get it. And the president had every authority -- every authority to let go of Jeff Sessions. At this point in time. Look, there was already talk that the attorney general himself was going to leave after two years. That he didn't want to stay on. And now with Matt Whitaker as the acting attorney general, they can move forward, Sean. What we know is this, just as a Congressman Jordan said, that Rod Rosenstein is basically conflicted out anyway, and let's not forget about the testimony of James Baker, the former general counsel at the FBI, who basically testified that Rod Rosenstein himself, himself, was discussing possibly invoking the 25th amendment, and actually recording, you know, the president, secretly taping him. The New York Times was the first to break that story, and that a story has been confirmed over and over again. HANNITY: Last word, Jim Jordan. JORDAN: No. Sara is especially right. We still don't have the McCabe memos that we subpoenaed. We still don't have the FISA application that we were entitled to see as a separate and equal branch of government with clearance. We still don't have the James Baker 302s, and we still don't have the Bruce Ohr-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, the president said yesterday he might release them. (CROSSTALK) JORDAN: I hope he does. HANNITY: So, let's get them out before, you know, Pelosi and company gets there. JORDAN: Exactly. Exactly. CARTER: Absolutely. JORDAN: Yes. That's what is coming, they are going to be investigating all kinds of other things, but this is the central issue and we need to get to the bottom of it. HANNITY: The 302s, gang of eight, and we need the FISA warrant applications. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: Ten through 12, pages 17 through 34. People tell me there's important stuff on it. Good to see you both. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh sounds off on Attorney General Sessions resigning at the request of the president. That's next. HANNITY: All right. Rush earlier today pointed out how totally unfounded the hysteria surrounding Sessions' departure has been. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: The attorney general is being fired! Being asked to leave. It is perfectly constitutional. And yet, the left is running around talking about a constitutional crisis. They still believe that Robert Mueller has evidence that a Trump colluded with Russia. And they think that Trump is getting rid of Sessions so that Trump can put somebody in there who is going to shut this down so that the truth about Trump stealing the election doesn't come out. That is what they believe. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Right on. And by the way, can you just imagine, NBC News, Tom Brokaw, person that says she is a journalist, Rachel Maddow, partnering with Moveon.org, which is, by the way, he is Hitler - Bush. Michael Moore, General Petraeus. It's sad. All right. Let not your heart be troubled. We're always fair and balanced. Laura Ingraham is next. Load-Date: November 9, 2018 End of Document Democrats Still Crying Racist Against President Trump And His Supporters After Losing The Midterm Elections; Rick Scott Suing Democratic Election Officials In Broward County And Palm Beach, Florida; Matthew Whitaker's Appointment Is Unconstitutional Says George Conway; Shooter In California Attack Bar; Officer Who Entered Bar With Mass Shooter Recognized; Donald Trump Names Republican Candidate Who Lost in Midterm Election at Press Conference; Bernie Sanders Makes Comment On White Voters In Florida Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 8, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7953 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Barry Richard, Miguel De Grandy, Joseph Klock, James Trusty, David Katz, Chad Anderson, Mark Fuhrman, Corey Lewandowski, Sean Spicer, Horace Cooper, Will Jawando Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Tom Brokaw, a person that says she was journalist. Maddow, partnering with moveon.org, which is, oh by the way, he is Hitler, Bush, Michael Moore, General Petraeus, its sad. Let not your heart be troubled. We are always fair and balance. Laura Ingraham is next. How are you tonight? LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, they have been playing this trick about you are Hitler, you are racist, you are anti-Semitic, you are Stalin, you are Pol Pot. I mean, they -- HANNITY: Listen, by the way, imagine this, move on -- General betray-us, number one -- INGRAHAM: I remember that. HANNITY: -- a war hero, with the elderly woman, they have an ad that want to private part punch Mitt Romney and burn this mother effer down. Ads comparing Bush to Hitler. They are now partners, and NBC News is literally organizing and telling people, this is a break the glass moment we all have been waiting for. Here is where you go protest. That is not going to end well. INGRAHAM: No, and Sean, I have to say, I think the press behavior in the briefing room yesterday, whipping -- they are trying to whip everything up into this frenzy, not just ask tough questions. They are trying to whip everything up into a frenzy, I think that gives, you know, some impetus to the nut bags out there with the masks, all of the brave kids in the masks. HANNITY: And by the way, I want everybody to be safe. (Inaudible) says the network sucks, that doesn't mean -- or fake -- those are words. They (inaudible) are real people being really organized and told to create crowds, get in people's faces, follow them, kick them, and don't be civil with them. You know what, I'm telling every conservative, you see somebody you don't like, stay away. INGRAHAM: Yes, absolutely. And there are some great press people out there doing good jobs, but we got -- everyone has to take the temperature down and it's got to calm down. You can have a spirited conversation. HANNITY: Well, CNN got a threat today. I don't want him threatened. INGRAHAM: No journalist -- HANNITY: I even said I saw Acosta, who I can't stand, anyone goes after him and on there, I will fight to defend him. INGRAHAM: I would love to see that. I don't want anyone fighting Hannity. HANNITY: You just want to see me fight because you know I train every day. You just want to see if it's true. INGRAHAM: It's not bad. It's not so bad. I'm going to be more peaceful and calm, Sean. Great show tonight, by the way. I loved your coverage of what they did it to Tucker. HANNITY: Thank you. Have a great show. INGRAHAM: Thank you for doing that. HANNITY: OK. INGRAHAM: All right, I am Laura Ingraham, and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington tonight. If you thought the midterm drama was over, well, you are in wrong. Shades of 2000 in Florida tonight as the state is mired once again in a recount drama. Governor Rick Scott just filed a lawsuit in the last few hours against Broward Palm Beach County, where votes are seemingly appearing out of nowhere, trunks of cars, you know, the bottom of your garbage disposal -- kind of an exaggeration, but not all that much, not all that far off. And Trump just responded and will speak to the attorneys on the ground in just moments. Plus, Bernie Sanders is saying that Andrew Gillum and Stacey Abrams struggled to win votes because white voters were scared of them. Horace Cooper is here a little bit later on to respond. And why does President Trump's new acting attorney general Matt Whitaker bother so many of the resistance folks? We are going to examine it. And we also speak to a good friend of hero, Sergeant Ron Helus, tragically one of the 12 senselessly killed in the Thousand Oaks shooting today in California, the last night in California this morning. But first, refusing to accept the agony of defeat, that is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Republican Brian Kemp has declared victory, says he will begin his transition to the governor's office today, but don't forget, his opponent, Stacey Abrams, she is not conceding yet. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: DeSantis has declared victory, Gillum has conceded, but he has tweeted saying that he wants every vote to count. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bill Nelson has brought in a high-powered Democratic lawyer from Washington, D.C., to oversee this recount. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Well, in close or particularly contentious races, Democrats more so than Republicans seem to have a problem conceding defeat. Now, it can't be that the other guy won fair and square. It has to be that either the election system broke down or some mystery votes are hiding somewhere or the entire process must be tainted. Well then there is the other way to explain a tough loss, well, the voters must be racist. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump's instincts were validated in big sections of the country. The incitement strategy, the racial demagoguery, it worked. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Trump's Republican Party is getting increasingly older, increasingly wither, increasingly rural. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The other thing that could be happening in Florida is the Bradley effect, I mean, which once affected -- lowered the Election Day vote totals of black candidates. Former L.A. mayor Tom Bradley who kept running for governor and the polls would show that he would win and somehow on Election Day, he would lose. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So mired in race. Even after Democrats flip to the House and many minority candidates won from coast-to-coast, once the result in the Florida's governor's race and in Georgia rolled in, Adam Serwer of "The Atlantic" published this piece. It was titled "America's Problem Isn't Tribalism -- It's Racism." And writing, "If Republicans ran on their policy agenda alone, they would be at a disadvantage. So they have turned to a destructive politics of white identity, one that seeks the path of power by deliberately dividing the country along racial and sectarian lines. They portray the nation as the birthright of white, heterosexual Christians." Yes, Adam, that is what those policies that led to record unemployment for African-Americans and Latinos are all about, stoking racial and sectarian ethnic fears. It's absurd. The most despicable use of race in the midterms came from the Trump haters and some Democrats. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) ANDREW GILLUM, FLORIDA GUBERNATORIAL DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE: Now, I'm not calling Mr. DeSantis a racist. I'm simply saying the racists believe he is a racist. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sign me up in the category of the people who think he is racist. He has said so many racist things. He has done so many racist things. He is a racist pig! UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Making overtly bigoted, racist statements, attacking brown people, attacking black people. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: When bizarre and suspicious racist robo-calls (ph) were reported in Florida, remember Republicans, including DeSantis and Rick Scott, immediately and vociferously denounce them, as they should. Back in 2016, the media tried to paint Trump as the one -- remember, he wasn't going to be accepting any of the results of the election. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS WALLACE, FOX NEWS HOST: Are you saying you are not prepared now to commit to that principle? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: What I'm saying is that I will tell you at the time, I will keep you in suspense. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, Hillary responded to that like this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: That is horrifying. You know, every time Donald thinks things are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is it is rigged against him. That is not the way our democracy works. He is denigrating, he is talking down our democracy. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Talking down our democracy. Well, the media echoed Hillary, outraged that Trump would ever challenge the legitimacy of an election won fair and square. But all of their full moral outrage was exposed when Trump actually won in 2016. Suddenly our sacrosanct representative democracy -- it wasn't so sacrosanct after all. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. President, I rise today to discuss legislation I introduced to eliminate the Electoral College and ensure that the candidate who wins the most votes will be elected president. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Yes, the heck with the way the framers set it up, let's just dispense with it since we lost. Now, Republicans, even the president, of course they have their own hang-ups about legitimacy. Obama's birth certificate, which Trump himself focused on. But almost two years into the Trump a administration, many of the diehards -- after all, they are called the resistance -- still do not accept the results. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. JOHN LEWIS (D), GEORGIA: I believe in trying to work with people -- it is going to be hard, it is going to be very difficult. I don't see this president-elect as a legitimate president. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My personal view is that it was not a legitimate election. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's your president. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is our president Angela (ph). He is the president of the United -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, not mine. Not mine. I'll never -- CLINTON: I think there are a lot of questions about his legitimacy, and we don't have a method for contesting that in our system. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: No wonder people are losing faith in our Democratic system. Listen to those people. Now, according to an Axios survey, just 51 percent of Americans said they have faith in the country's democracy. A whopping 37 percent, more than a third, say they have lost faith in it. My friends, this is really distressing for America's future. If the people decide the system is rotten, they are really saying the country is rotten. And soon they are going to be saying it isn't worth protecting anymore at all. But let's hope that we can turn this dynamic around, there is so much craziness out there. And this means that both parties need to do better at focusing on issues, the issues the American people care about, instead of just a perpetual grievance, politics, it is getting old. Look, some recounts are mandated, and they are in Florida, and if the margins are close enough, Republicans and Democrats, they should both ensure that any recount is done fairly, no creating ballots where none existed. Now, I got say, it was hardly reassuring to learn today that in Florida's most populous county, Broward, the elections chief there is a Democrat named Brenda Snipes. Well, Brenda was found guilty of violating state and federal law for destroying ballots in the 2016 congressional race when those ballots where, at the time, subject to a lawsuit. And breaking in the last couple of hours, we had a lawsuit filed by Governor Rick Scott against Broward and Palm Beach County. Rightfully, he is going on the offensive against this entire shoddy practice. Republican lawyers, you better make sure that Democrats do not start torching absentee ballots in dumpsters in Boca, or finding other ballots other places. Let's all just remember that while losing is never fun, and we remember our losses, believe me. We remember `92, we remember `96, we remember 2006 during the Bush midterms, 2008, 2012, it is never fun. But I will tell you, losing our Democratic process would be catastrophic. And that is THE ANGLE. Joining us now, three men who know this Florida issue better than pretty much most everyone in the country. Barry Richard is currently Andrew Gillum's attorney. He also represented George W. Bush in the 2000 Florida recount. Miguel De Grandy was also part of that Bush legal team, and Joseph Klock was attorney for Secretary of State Katherine Harris during that very same recount representing her against all of these legal challenges. Joseph, I want to start with you tonight. Do you think it is wise for Governor Scott to move on the offensive, as I do, against Broward and Palm Beach counties, or is that premature? JOSEPH KLOCK, ATTIORNEY: No, I don't think it is premature. You've got be -- you have to sort of stay ahead of the flow of what is going on. I think all of the -- I was not aware of the lawsuit until I drove over here tonight, but obviously what he wants to do is just to make sure that there is judicial supervision of what is going on, things don't happen that ought not happen. INGRAHAM: Barry, I want to go to you. You are representing Andrew Gillum. He did concede the other night, but as you said earlier tonight, I heard you, you said well, that is not a contract. He thought the moment warranted a concession. But -- and your client and you say you are watching things very closely with the vote count. Last I checked, I think it was about 40,000 or so votes separating Gillum, of course, and Ron DeSantis. What are you looking at tonight? BARRY RICHARD, ANDREW GILLUM'S ATTORNEY: There is a vast difference between 2000 and now. In 2000, our recounts were precipitated by the candidates who had to request them and got to select which counties they were in. The legislature as a result of 2000 has significantly changed Florida statutes. So, the candidates really have nothing to do with it now. If the margin between the candidates is less than one half a percent, it's an automatic so-called machine recount, where the ballots are sent through the machines again. If it is less than a quarter of a percent, then there is an automatic statewide manual recount. As far as Mr. Gillum is concerned, he is just waiting for the system to play itself out. This is part of the electoral process, it is part of the vote counting, and he will accept the results. INGRAHAM: Miguel, I want to go to you. I think a lot of people watching across the country find it very odd this whole process of the vote count extending so many days. Explain to the viewers why that is, with provisional ballots, what those are, and moving into absentee, military count, which I understand in Florida have not been counted yet. MIGEUL DE GRANDY, BUSH LEGAL TEAM in 2000 RECOUNT: Provisional and absentee -- and military absentees are one issue, but what we can't understand is why is it that mail-in ballots and early votes are still being counted and have not yet been properly recorded? According to our laws, those votes are supposed to be uploaded the day before election so that they can be reported half an hour after the votes close the next day. So we are at loss to understand what is happening in Palm Beach and Broward. And it is the same two counties that can't seem to get it right out of our 67 counties in the state of Florida. INGRAHAM: Well, what about the concern -- I want to go back to you, Joseph, about Brenda Snipes in Broward and the concern that Marco Rubio -- he was on another network -- no, he was on our network, earlier tonight, and he just was basically laying waste to what happens in Broward County. The president tweeted out about this also tonight, which we will put up on the screen -- we put it up on the screen and then I will go back to you, Joseph. This is what the president said tonight. He said, "Law enforcement is looking into another big corruption scandal having to do with election fraud in Broward and Palm Beach, Florida. Florida voted for Rick Scott." Your comment tonight, Joseph. KLOCK: Well, as Barry said, our legislature thought that they addressed some of the problems to avoid this kind of thing from happening. It is really kind of embarrassing to the state that we have to have this kind of thing go on. And as, you know, my county, my home county is Miami, Dade, we don't have this kind of thing happening here. And if, you know, because Ms. Snipes apparently has this cloud hanging over her head, and then if there indeed ballots that are now showing up, they shouldn't be. I mean, the only ballots we should be waiting for at this point in time are the military ballots which I understand have until November 16th. So, I think, you know, we need to make sure that we take whatever steps are necessary with the judiciary to protect the integrity of the system so that we don't have these problems. And I think Barry will agree that one of the reasons we still have this is we don't have statewide controls over balloting. It is done on a county by county basis, and that is why you can have these outliers. INGRAHAM: Got it. OK, so Barry, you know, I didn't practice election law, but I remember being down in Miami, Dade during the recount. I think I remember seeing you guys down there at the time, but this is what Rick Scott said, this was just a short while ago, referring to Marc Elias in Tallahassee. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RICK SCOTT (R), FLORISA SENATE CANDIDATE: I will not sit idly by while unethical liberals try to steal this election from the great people of Florida. Senator Nelson hired one of Hillary Clinton's lawyers from D.C., and the first thing he did was tell reporters he is here to win the election. Now, he is here to try to steal the election and to try to thwart the will of the voters of Florida. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Barry, your reaction -- tough words from Rick Scott tonight. He is certainly not going to sit back in what he believes is going to be an election stolen for him at the hands of Miss Snipes. RICHARD: Well, I have no reaction in the first place. I am not involved in that race. And in the second place, it is not my purpose to become involved in the political debate, I am just the lawyer representing a client legally and those things are beyond my sphere of representation. INGRAHAM: Oh, the old Brendan Sullivan thing, I'm not talking about it, I respect that. Good for you, Barry. RICHARD: No, no, no, that is not what I do. I'm a lawyer, I'm representing a client. INGRAHAM: I got it. I go it. RICHARD: I represent Republicans and Democrats. INGRAHAM: I didn't say otherwise. I appreciate it. Miguel, I want go to you on this because obviously, we want to protect the integrity of the vote. I agree with Stacey Abrams and everyone else who said every vote should count. If you voted and you're eligible to vote, your vote should count. I think what -- people watch this, and they are like, how is this in the United States of America that this kind of stuff seems to drag on. People are talking about this dragging on another few weeks in Florida. And I think that's what kind of eats away at people, both Democrats, Republicans, people on the, you know, in the middle. DE GRANDY: Laura, I can't agree more. I lost my first election to the Florida House of Representatives by one vote in 1998, so I am very keen on the fact that every vote needs to be counted and our election needs to be tabulated fairly. What concerns us at this point is the irregularities that are occurring, when we can't view the ballots being, for example, the ballots that are damaged, being duplicated, which is required by law, in the presence of witnesses. And we are denied access to that process where we start hearing that in Palm Beach County, there are situations where they are actually taking steps that are outside of the public domain. That they are divining voter intent when that is the exclusive providence of the canvassing board, and putting those as recorded votes instead of bringing them to the canvassing board for their determination of public process. We should all be very concerned. INGRAHAM: Yes. They have to be verified by the proper channels, not just a divine (ph) -- intention divine. And By the way, Gillum's campaign said -- put out a tweet, "The Gillum campaign is looking for volunteers to help cure leftover ballots." What does that mean, Barry, since you will talk about your client? We're almost out of time. I get it guys. So cure leftover ballots, what does that mean, Barry? RICHARD: To cure leftover ballots? INGRAHAM: Yes, that is what your campaign sent out, what does that mean? RICHARD: I don't know what it means. I'm not suggesting -- INGRAHAM: You represent them but you don't know what that means. OK. All right. RICHARD: I don't know what it means because I don't know what that reference was to. It is not something I am involved in. I'm not trying to be difficult for you, but when I was asked to come on the show, it was to address the differences between the 2000 campaign -- INGRAHAM: We got it. That is the point you made earlier. RICHARD: -- we vote and this one and you are asking me questions that are beyond my core of knowledge. INGRAHAM: I didn't know. I'm sorry, I didn't know you were so sensitive about so you can't talk about what the campaign -- RICHARD: I'm not sensitive but I'm not -- listen, I'm not a political spokesman. I'm a lawyer who represents clients. If you want to ask me about that, I'm happy to respond. INGRAHAM: I understand. I understand. Well, this is your client, I imagine, talking about curing ballots. RICHARD: Well, you asked me what -- you asked me what a statement meant when he said "cure ballots," that is not a legal term. I didn't write the statement and I don't know what it means. INGRAHAM: OK, all right. This is not advancing the conversation. All right, we appreciate it. Gentlemen, thank you very much for joining us. And next, after already sending liberal opponents into a tizzy, we will tell you what Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker just dropped that has left even the most unhinged more unhinged. Stay there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are we approaching a constitutional crisis? SEN. JOE MANCHIN (D), WEST VIRGINIA: I think we're on the verge of that. I think it is a big mistake to let Jeff Sessions go. What raises my concerns is the person who has been so vocal against the investigation that was going on, now putting in charge a day after the election. I think that sheds bad light on it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, Joe Manchin is obviously feeling pretty comfortable since his re-election, but his contention is shared though among the left and media chattering class, mainly that Jeff Sessions, his forced resignation as attorney general and Matt Whitaker's ascension to this acting role in the post, poses a grave constitutional threat to the country and imperils Mueller's investigation. Here to separate fact from fiction, former DOJ prosecutor James Trusty and former U.S. assistant attorney David Katz. James, I want to start with you. There are some suggestions that even when conservative legal minds, Kellyanne Conway's husband, George, that this was an illegal appointment in the acting capacity of Mr. Whitaker. JAMES TRUSTY, FORMER DOJ PROSECUTOR: Well, I mean, this is all new territory so we can't pretend that anybody has got like some vivid example to make their case. But there are scholars and there are may be more politically oriented scholars getting out there and saying that the fact that this is a non-Senate confirmed person renders him ineligible. I think there is still a whole bunch of the corollary issues when it comes to the Mueller probe and Rod Rosenstein, but there are at least some people reporting that they think this violates the constitution. It's an invalid pick. INGRAHAM: David, this is what Conway and Neal Katyal write in today's "New York Times." "Mr. Trump's installation of Matthew Whitaker as acting attorney general of the United States after forcing the resignation of Sessions is unconstitutional. It's illegal. And it mean that anything Mr. Whitaker does or tries to do in that position is invalid. Constitutionally, Whitaker is a nobody. His job as Mr. Sessions' chief of staff didn't require Senate confirmation, as James just said. For the president to install Whitaker as our chief law enforcement officer is to betray the entire structure of our charter document." David? DAVID KATZ, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: Well, Laura, it is great to be on with you again. And the person that I would quote on this is Justice Thomas. Justice Thomas wrote a very incisive decision where he said that framers of the constitution recognized that there is great risk of corruption and abuse if one person could name all of the top officers in government. In this situation, that refers to President Trump. Of course, what Justice Thomas was referring to was that the framers had great experience with kings and other people, who at the time didn't have any check on their power. So, I am with Justice Thomas on this one. I'm worried about this issue. I think everyone should be worried about this issue of the president appointing a principal officer. Now, he could appoint Whitaker and nominate him, and the Senate, which is Republican, including in the lame duck session, there are 51 Republican senators -- they just approved Kavanaugh -- let him appoint -- let him nominate this man, Whitaker, and let him have a Senate confirmation hearing if he thinks he is really the person for the job, but not in this manner. In this manner, Laura, he's got to put Rosenstein in there, or he's got to put the solicitor general in there. INGRAHAM: All right, so first of all, nice try on Justice Thomas, but you are making a massive leap from that case and a general statement about the government to a specific case involving a specific acting attorney general. We don't have time to debate that. That was cute, though. James, let's talk about what is really going on here. Adam schiff also -- look, for them it is Mueller, Mueller, Mueller. You notice we did not talk about Mueller at all during the midterms, but now the midterms are over, so it's back to Russia, Russia, Russia. And so this is what they are worried about. They are worried about Whitaker who said things on CNN before that seemed to be more hostile toward the idea of Mueller. So this is what Adam Schiff said today, let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: If he doesn't recuse himself, that any decision he makes in the Mueller investigation is going to have a taint about it. Did he, was he forced somehow to make a commitment to the president to ignore the advice of (inaudible) at the Justice Department, or not to seek out their advice? Was that part of his getting the job? Because this president is guided by one thing alone, and that is what is good for Donald Trump, the country doesn't matter that much. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Again, ignore the pejorative -- that is just typical Adam Schiff, but he is making the Conway point about, OK, anything he does is thus invalid. Today they announced the new rules or what they want to be the new rules on the migrants coming in, specifically a change to asylum law. Now, Jeff Sessions was all on board on all of this, by the way, but that you would have to present yourself at a port of entry, not just, you know, coming across the border and then saying I want asylum. Is that what they are setting up here so anything Whitaker is a part of, no, no, no. No can do? And does that survive legal challenge? TRUSTY: Well, I mean, again, unchartered territory. But they are certainly setting up a situation where they are inviting litigation at every step of the way. And for the Mueller probe I would just say-, really the key is still Rosenstein. Rosenstein is a Senate confirmed superior officer. If he has any voice on the supervision then there is really no issue there in terms of the appointments clause. But if they clean house, if Rosenstein leaves, then you really have a pretty viable issue about whether Mueller loses inferior officer status and becomes somebody subject to all sorts of motions to dismiss or motions to quash subpoenas. So, it is inviting a litigation, but nobody can act like this is essentially, you know, the capital is on fire and that we're about to lose our democracy. INGRAHAM: Yes, the whole democracy. Hey David, real quick, a friend of mine mentioned to me today, it would have been a kind of a NATO move by Trump to name Rod Rosenstein as acting attorney general. He's already overseeing the Mueller investigation, big deal. They seem to be talking about getting along. Could have done that, right? KATZ: Laura, he'd be the logical choice. There is no question he was presidentially nominated and he was approved by the Senate. Likewise, the solicitor general seems like a good candidate and would be a proper person. But I think -- I think that they should litigate this issue, and I think that they will. And I do think that Justice Thomas would be with the people who would say, in accordance with the National Labor Relations Board case, which is a recent decision, that President Trump cannot do this. And I think that he should pull back and maybe put Rosenstein in there. He would be a good choice. Why not if they are getting along? INGRAHAM: All right, thanks, guys, appreciate it. And up next, breaking new developments in the mass shooting in California. And inside a bar filled with college students for country night, a dozen dead, including a sheriff's deputy. Tonight he's being called a hero. And one of his former friends and former coworkers joins me next. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Our friends got the barstools and they started slamming them against the windows so we could get out. So we were able to get out come out, he broke the window. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Tonight, police are still trying to determine the motive of that gunman that opened fired inside a California bar, killing a dozen people, including a sheriff's deputy. The terrifying ordeal caught on camera. Sergeant Ron Helus was one of the first officers to enter the Borderline Bar and Grill and was killed trying to stop the shooter. He is being hailed as a hero for saving lives last night. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GEOFF DEAN, VENTURA COUNTY, CA, SHERIFF: Sergeant Helus was on the force for 29 years, was looking to retire in the next year or so. He died a hero because he went in to save lives, to save other people. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me now is a man who knows Sergeant Helus well, Deputy Chad Anderson of the Ventura County Sheriffs Department who worked with Officer Helus. The sheriff's department is grieving tonight, and we are so -- I feel like we do this way too often, but we are so sorry for your loss. What an amazing man, and you are such a good friend of Officer Helus. Tell us about him as a person tonight. DEPUTY CHAD ANDERSON, VENTURA COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT: Well, he was a great man. I worked with him when I first graduated the police academy, and he was a great sergeant, he was always there for us, they are to lead us and to guide us. And he was a great man. INGRAHAM: How is his family doing tonight? I know the heartache will never go away, really. But any word on his family? ANDERSON: No. They are still dealing with it. It's as tough as you can imagine it is. INGRAHAM: Tell us what you know about what happened in this bar. A former marine combat officer, or enlistee, I guess, goes in there, really fun college night, great hangout for some of the Pepperdine students and others, and just turned into a bloodbath. What do we know? ANDERSON: Yes. We know that, so we received phone calls, the 911 dispatch center received phone calls at about 11:19 last night. Sergeant Helus responded. When he got to the Borderline, there were two CHP officers rendering aid to one of the victims. And as they were rendering aid, they heard Sergeant Helus -- heard shots fires. So he grabbed one of the CHP officers, and they entered the borderline. And when they entered, Sergeant Helus was struck multiple times. The CHP officer grabbed a Sergeant Helus and pulled him out to a safer location. And later he was transported to the Los Robles Medical Center, and there he succumbed to his injuries. INGRAHAM: Another act of senseless -- ANDERSON: A really tough time for all of us here. INGRAHAM: Senseless violence. A man reportedly dealing with some obviously PTSD, mental issues, had some fairly minor brushes with the law. But anything else on your radar about the gunman, who killed himself, tonight, anything more that we know? ANDERSON: We responded in April of this year. That was the only other contact we had with this suspect. We responded to his house for a family disturbance, and the deputies contacted the crisis intervention team. They responded, evaluated the suspect, and didn't deem that he was a danger to himself or others, and he was released from the scene. And that's the only other contact we had with him. INGRAHAM: Do you know if he had gun permits, he was clearing a Glock 45, I guess. Did he have a permit for that? ANDERSON: I'm not aware if he had a permanent or not. INGRAHAM: OK, deputy, thank you so much. ANDERSON: The investigation -- INGRAHAM: The investigation is ongoing, I know, we will learn a lot more in the future. ANDERSON: The investigation is still going, yes. INGRAHAM: Deputy, thank you so much. We grieve with all of you, and we will continue to pray for you, your whole community, all of the survivors, the victims, our hearts break for you. Thank you so much for being here. ANDERSON: OK, thank you. INGRAHAM: And Mark Fuhrman, former L.A. homicide detective, FOX News contributor. Mark, another soft target tragically exploited last night, gun fire, 12 dead. What is the first step to, maybe, can we better protect places like this going forward, or this is just what we are going to have to deal with? MARK FUHRMAN, RETIRED LAPD DETECTIVE: Laura, unfortunately a soft target where the suspect is actually one of the regular customers makes it almost impossible. He is known to security. Security is not armed. Security was taken out immediately by the suspect, and then he went inside and took out more security so he could actually do what he wanted inside the bar. It's pretty tough to create a hard target out of a restaurant or a bar where people can walk in and out, even with security. I kind of wonder his motive. This is where a lot of survivors from the Las Vegas shooting actually congregated and actually were celebrating life, and I'm sure it was well known who they wear. They there that night of the shooting. And I kind of wonder if this was not possibly something to do with the motive for the suspect. INGRAHAM: Yes, and this being reported on now, just we are learning the beginning information about some of the victims, one who in particular who survived, obviously Las Vegas, succumbed to injuries last night. Mark, when I hear about the sergeant, he was the first one to go in with another police officer, and he went in there, because that is what you do when you hear gunshots, went in immediately, and was almost immediately, apparently, hit multiple times. When he go into a situation like that, you hear gunfire, you walk in -- just tell us what you are trained to do and why you are trained to do it. FUHRMAN: Certainly you don't want to walk in to -- directly into fire. You want to somewhat flank any entry, if you can. But we can just only imagine, a bar usually has a rear exit through the kitchen or the back of the restaurant or the back of the bar, and they have a front entrance. That is where the direction of the fire was coming from. And unfortunately, because of all of the school shootings, the only tactic that you can actually use if you are a first responder is you have to go to the shooting to try to stop the mass murder. If you just wait and set up a perimeter and wait for SWAT, the suspect is just continually killing people. And this is where the tactic comes up. So the sergeant and the CHP officer had to go to the only location where they could gain entry, and I'm sure they tactically tried to enter. But once they did, he was fatally shot. That creates a tactical nightmare when you have only one way in and you have to go in. When you talk about bravery, knowing that you are going in to a hot scene with an active shooter, and there's only one place that you can go in and only one place the suspect has to focus on, that concentrates of the fire in one location where you are going in. INGRAHAM: You just walk right into it, which it sounds like he did. What an incredible man and a horrific story. Mark Fuhrman, you always give us such great perspective. Thank you so much tonight. And President Trump called them out by name yesterday, and tonight, the establishment is fighting back. Sean Spicer, Cory Lewandowski are here with a message for a few of the sore losers. Don't go away. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Carlos Curbelo, Mike Coffman -- too bad, Mike. Mia Love, Mia Love gave me no love. (END VIDEO CLIP) (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: I'm sorry. That was from President Trump. It didn't sit well with him and they didn't really support him. And it didn't sit well with a few of the outgoing House members. Here is Pennsylvania congressman Ryan Costello. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. RYAN COSTELLO, (R) PENNSYLVANIA: Those folks gave their all in a very tough political environment that was created because of the president. Not only did he not acknowledge that, but he somehow falsely suggested that if they would have attached themselves closer to him, that they would have done better when I would make the argument they would have done worse. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What a shame that he is retiring from Pennsylvania sixth with that personality. So what did two of the president's former staffers think of all of this? Let's ask them. Joining me now, former White House press secretary Sean Spicer, former Trump campaign manager, co-author of "Trump's Enemies," Corey Lewandowski. Corey, I watched this Ryan Costello on CNN today, and I just started howling. The guy jumped out of the sandbox because it was too difficult to play, he retired after two whopping terms, and then he's like, oh, the president is being mean, and he is the one who dragged the whole party down. If it wasn't for President Trump, we would be dealing with Hillary in the midterms. COREY LEWANDOWSKI, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: You are exactly right, and people have a very short memory because Donald Trump carried so many across the finish line just two years ago. I can think of at least four members of the U.S. Senate and dozens of members of Congress who wouldn't have been reelected if Donald Trump wasn't on the ticket. And look at the races where the candidates embraced Donald Trump in Missouri, in North Dakota, in South Dakota, in both of the major races in Florida, in so many other places, in Kentucky sixth district with Andy Barr. When they brought Donald Trump in, when they said come in and help us, Mr. President, Mr. Vice President, come and help us, we want to run with you, those people are coming back to Washington because they embraced the Trump- Pence agenda. And those that didn't, they are going home. INGRAHAM: Sean, there are some tougher districts. Curbelo's district, south Florida, he said -- this is a tweet he sent out. He said, "So yesterday, Donald Trump stated that had I been more aligned with him, I may have one back. Let's check, I lost Florida 26th, 49-51. My colleague, DeSantis, who is closely aligned with the president, lost 46- 53." I don't know what he is talking about, lost 46-53. But I guess he is saying it is a small difference. It is not a big difference. So the idea that Trump somehow -- his distance from Trump and some issues caused the loss, I mean, he is representing a fairly purplish district. SEAN SPICER: That is right. But I think this election, in particular, was a base election. This was about energizing either our side or the Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer side. The president very clearly demonstrated through his travel through those battleground states, especially in those final few days, that he was going to run through the tape, energize the base. The Kavanaugh stuff really got people going, his talk about what was at stake and the results that he was getting. When you coming into an election like this, getting that base fired up, getting the enthusiasm gap closed, it was a month-and-a-half ago that the Democrats enjoyed up to a 12-point enthusiasm gap. It was because of the president and him hitting the campaign trail that that gap closed. INGRAHAM: Corey, Romney tweeted out something kind of interesting after the midterms. He said the following, "I want to thank Jeff Sessions for his service to our country as attorney general. Under Acting Attorney General Whitaker, it is imperative that the important work of the DOJ continues and the Mueller investigation proceeds to its conclusion unimpeded." What did you make of that? LEWANDOWSKI: This is Mitt Romney already injecting himself into the Washington scene. I think he is going to be ultimately a thorn in the side of the president for a long time. Mitt is the one who made the speech that the president, then candidate Trump wasn't qualified. He changed his tune when running for the U.S. Senate, and now he is coming to Washington, D.C., I heard he was shopping for an apartment today in Washington. And look, this president has been very clear, Bob Mueller is going to finish of the investigation, but you can't have an investigation that goes on in perpetuity. Bring this to close, let the American people see exactly what I already know, there was no collusion, there was no cooperation, there was no coordination with the Russians in any way, shape, or form by our campaign, and let's end this investigation so we can get on with the people's business. INGRAHAM: Sean, I know it -- SPICER: Laura, real quick, I think one of the things that is forgotten is that the president, the underlying premise of why the president fired Sessions was because of the Sessions misled him, frankly. Sessions took a job know that he would have to recuse himself, and the president felt like he was offering him something and that he was going to be the faithful steward and leader of a department. And shortly after taking the job, recused himself, thereby not able to be the true, full leader that was supposed to be the person he was appointing as attorney general. So everyone is jumping to conclusions about what this means for Mueller, but the bottom line is we have seen from the president's words, actions, and tweets for the past year-and-a-half that frankly this stemmed from a level of disappointment in how Jeff Sessions presented himself for the job in the first place. INGRAHAM: The Sessions people are telling me in the last couple of days that Sessions didn't know that the campaign was being investigated until after, of course, that reassurance to the president, until he gets in DOJ. So he could have said he wasn't going to recuse, but on the investigation, on the campaign, once that was going to be the subject of part of the investigation -- again, that is what I am being told, and it kind of makes sense to me. But nevertheless, Mitt Romney, God bless you, are you setting up a 2020 challenge to President Trump, that's my question tonight. Gentlemen, great to see you, as always. And coming up, racial politics have been an issue that has been animating the left the entire cycle. They're not done yet. Wait until you hear what Bernie Sanders said about white voters in Florida and Georgia. That debate next. INGRAHAM: Here's what Bernie Sanders thinks about Florida and Georgia voters, quote, "There are a lot of white folks out there who are not necessarily racist who felt uncomfortable for the first time in their lives about whether or not they wanted to vote for an African-American." Joining us now with reaction, Democratic strategist and civil rights attorney Will Jawando, and Project 21 cochair Horace Cooper. Horace, your reaction to Sanders tonight. HORACE COOPER, CO-CHAIR, PROJECT 21: If everything is racism, nothing is racism. People who voted for Barack Obama now want to vote for Donald Trump. People who voted Republican, they voted Democrat, that is how people make choices. Calling them out as bigots or somehow uncomfortable with blacks doesn't serve any interests. In fact, it sets us all back. INGRAHAM: Will, is there something to that, that everything does seem to be hit with the r-word now, if it involves either a challenger who is a minority or an incumbent who is a minority, at some point race will be involved. WILL JAWANDO, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: These are southern states. There's only been two black elected governors ever in the history of the country. Slavery, racism is our original sin here. We're still dealing with the after effects. There is a region that DOJ had preclearance in these states until the voting rights act was eviscerated. So of course some people show up -- I've run for office. I've had people call me the n-word at their door, I've had people invite me in that didn't look like me. So it exists in our country, but I think it's getting better. I think the real story is you see Abrams and Gillum and others, Lauren Underwood in a 94 percent district get elected. So things are changing, it exists, but it's the dichotomy in America. But I think it's true, though. COOPER: Bernie Sanders should recognize, if you come up with an extremist progressive agenda, it doesn't matter what your color is. People are going to reject you. INGRAHAM: They did some liberal stuff on the referenda, didn't they? They did the Medicaid expansion, marijuana, more marijuana stuff. COOPER: They certainly did. But O'Rourke lost in Texas for the same kind of reason. You can't be an extremist and win. That's the real issue here. Don't call it racism. Let's have a real conversation. INGRAHAM: A debate. The problem is when you call someone racist that kind of ends the conversation. There's really nowhere to go there because you don't even deserve a debate if you're a racist. JAWANDO: I don't think he said they were racist. INGRAHAM: He came pretty close. JAWANDO: But I think the point is you have to acknowledge racism exists. COOPER: Racism is not explaining the elections that are happening in the United States of America. We just watched. JAWANDO: It's a factor. COOPER: It is not a factor. It is not a factor. That is ridiculous. JAWANDO: To say it's not a factor is -- INGRAHAM: You guys, when we do a whole show, we're going to do a whole show on this topic, and you guys have to be on. We want you and three other people for the hour. And we are probably going to take it out of Washington, frankly. But thank you so much for joining us, and sorry it's short tonight. Right back with some news that just broke, stay right there. INGRAHAM: The Florida recounts are going to be big news for the foreseeable future. We told you early about President Trump's reaction. This was a tweet that came out a couple of hours ago, law enforcement is looking into another big corruption scandal having to do with election fraud in Broward and Palm Beach. Florida voted for Rick Scott. Chuck Schumer has now responded, and he put out a tweet. And in the tweet he said, he said -- law enforcement is looking into another big corruption scandal. So there is on the screen. "In a democracy, no one, not even the president, can prevent the lawful counting of votes. We'll not allow him or anyone else to steal this election." My friends, this is going to be a big one. Sorry I was reading the wrong tweet. So Schumer, Trump going after each other. One more point, we're almost out of time. One more point. OK. Tonight, a Montana federal district court judge, Brian Morris, an Obama appointee, put a temporary, well, hold on the Keystone Pipeline saying the justification for it was incomplete. I didn't have to ask who the judge was but I knew it was an Obama appointee. And I was right. So, Brian Morris, look for the Justice Department to appeal that. That's going to go all the way to the Ninth Circuit. Got to have more judges on the Ninth Circuit. All right. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team will never read the wrong tweet. Load-Date: November 9, 2018 End of Document GOP Holds Senate, Dems Take House In Midterms; Jeff Sessions Is Out As Attorney General; The Left's Disappointment After the Democrats' "Blue Wave" Does Not Materialize; President Trump Ousted Attorney General Jeff Sessions And Now Matt Whitaker Takes Over As Deputy A.G. Who Will Be Rod Rosenstein's Boss; CNN's Jim Acosta Taking The Spotlight At The White House During President Trump's Press Conference; Analysts Say That The New Leadership In The DOJ May Open Up The Documents Clogging The Russia Probe And The Investigation On Unscrupulous FBI And DOJ Officials Who Were Biased Against President Trump Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 7, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7499 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Catherine Herridge, Newt Gingrich, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Jason Chaffetz Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Great show as always. Welcome to HANNITY. All right. Jam-packed hour. The so-called blue wave, turned out to be a farce, media pundit, Democrats, all wrong yet again. President Trump's aggressive, tough campaign strategy, his economic success, foreign policy success, led to political success. Last night, Democrats did win control of the House, but they lost seats in the U.S. Senate, and they also lost several high-profile, enormously well- funded races in the states like Texas, and Florida, Georgia. And Republicans, they still hold the majority of governorships all across the country. When we put this in perspective for you, you will see why this was such a great night. And we'll also show you how people on other networks, fake news at CNN, conspiracy TV MSNBC, reacted to this underwhelming blue trickle -- maybe we'll call it the trickle. We also have highlights from the presidents a smack down of CNN's Jim Acosta. By the way, he has now had his credentials at the White House, I argue rightfully, revoked. I never interviewed Barack Obama. I would never be that rude. And by the way, we'll put all this in historical perspective, a very important "Hannity" history lesson on what midterms are usually like, perspective I promise you will get nowhere else. Also breaking news, Jeff Sessions is out as the attorney general. We're going to preview what it will be like with an attorney general who has not recused himself from the phony collusion witch hunt, which I'm sure we'll be back on tomorrow, and now, we can have it real investigations, we will call for tonight, featuring actual, real Russia collusion with proof. And we are looking at, yes, you, Hillary Clinton. And, of course, we have a huge lineup tonight. The great one Mark Levin, former Speaker of the House Gingrich, and so much more. And I have an announcement at the end of the show. It's important. So much information, so little time, I will answer the question why I was not in the air last night. There is an answer. I will explain it to you. All right, we leave election night to so many other people -- by the way, congrats to everybody that was on last night. Let not your heart be troubled, it is time for all breaking news, buckle up, jam-packed, opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. For months, Democrats, their funds on CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, "New York Times," "Washington Post," they all but were giddy, guaranteeing a huge, massive, enormous blue wave. They predicted that Americans would send a message to President Trump. They acted like Republicans have never been more unpopular, divisive, racist, sexist, and even worse. And guess what? Again, they were completely wrong. That blue wave, it never happened. Tonight, we do have a split Congress, Democrats picked up seats in the House of Representatives, Republicans made control, gain seats in the U.S. Senate, increasing their majority. Republicans were also victorious in the most high-profile races, where literally tens and tens of millions of dollars were spent. In Texas, Democrat, almost $100 million, a little less than $100 million, they used to defeat Ted Cruz, it didn't work out. His opponent, Bozo O'Rourke got support from celebrities, Beyonce, Jimmy Kimmel, well, that was all a waste because Senator Cruz was reelected last night. In Florida, socialist darling of the left, Mayor Andrew Gillum was bolstered by a visit from Obama, a campaign concert even with Jimmy Buffett, nearly every single poll predicted a Gillum win. Again, they were wrong. Republican Ron DeSantis supposedly had no chance, he is now the governor-elect of Florida. Good decision, Florida. In the Senate, Republican Rick Scott, he won my head against Democratic incumbent Bill Nelson. By the way, Nelson is being a bit of a crybaby, he wants to challenge the seat, wants a recount. Scott up by tens of thousands of votes, that seat is now Rick Scott. That's Senator Scott from Florida. In Georgia, former president -- former President Obama campaigned, Oprah Winfrey campaign, even went door-to- door for Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams. Well, pro-Trump Republican Brian Kemp, he is over the 50 percent mark. That means there will be no runoff in the state of Georgia. Another win. Now, of course, one of these things that they all have in common is President Trump campaigned in all the states. He was in Georgia, Florida, Missouri, Indiana, Tennessee, North Dakota, Texas, where Republicans took home statewide victories. Now, Republicans will pick up what looks like a gain of three seats in the U.S. Senate, that is massive, especially when you look at the historical perspective. Democrats will get a net gain of around 35 seats that gives them control. They needed 23 for control of the House. But some results are still pending. Now, let me put this in perspective. Republicans actually had what is an amazing, historically speaking, election night. Remember, 44 House Republicans retired, that is a massive number. But here is the history, here are the headwinds, that very few people ever talk about. Let's go back -- let's start with 2010, Barack Obama's first midterm. Look at that. Democrats lost in his first midterm, 63 seats in the House, six seats in the U.S. Senate, that's a total of 69. In 1994, Clinton Democrats lost 52 seats in the House, eight seats in Senate. That's a net loss of 60. Even Ronald Reagan, 1982, he'd only been in office two years, his first midterm, Republicans lost 26 House seats and gained zero seats in the Senate. Since 1914, look at this, the president's own party has only picked up seats three times during the midterms, three times in over 100 years. We knew this going in. During the same period of time, Donald Trump is only the third president to gain Senate seats while losing seats in the House. And Trump campaigned for senators, he went to state to state for those races he could campaigned for. He couldn't go out and go to all 435 House districts with 435 different House candidates, that would be physically impossible. Now, keep in mind, during Obama's eight long years in office, look at this, Democrats lost control of more than 1,000 state and national offices. By the way, he had a pretty bad night last night. It is a much different picture under President Trump, which of the media won't tell you. Now, why is this all true? Well, look at the economic front, our economy, thankfully, is booming. The forgotten men and women that we all talked about in 2016, they are now seeing prosperity that has been long overdue for them, 4.5 million new jobs created since Donald Trump was elected, 4.3 million fewer Americans on food stamps, over 4 million Americans out of poverty. Thanks to this economic boom. The manufacturing front, over 400,000 new manufacturing jobs, jobs Obama said would never coming back. Look at this: employment claims at a 49 low. We are seeing record low unemployment, African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian-Americans, women in the workplace, military veterans, and youth unemployment. Median household income in this country is hitting a record high. We saw 4.2 percent GDP growth in the second quarter, 3.5 percent in the most recent third quarter. This all comes as President Trump slashed regulations, promises made and kept, after he signed the single biggest middle-class tax cut in history, another promise that he made that's kept. You're not likely to see any of these statistics on television on any so- called news channel. On those networks, people were actively rooting for the blue wave that became a little trickle, a little drizzle. And in the lead up to the election, they were actually vilifying -- they went insane in the days leading up to yesterday, all things Trump, nonstop, in a last ditch effort to bolster their friends in the Democratic Party. They were literally an extension of all things liberal, socialist Democrats, and they are like state-run Democratic media. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If Trump wins, he will cast it as a complete endorsement of his most undemocratic behavior. If you are 18 and that happens, you stand a very real chance of not living at a western-style democracy for part or all of your life. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He is a racist pig! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He is talking about whites a premise does ideology. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What Donald Trump did was normalize racism. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump is not only disgusting and vile, he's stupid. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This racist, heartless, soulless man. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president is obviously a racist. He's obviously demagogue. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This president has radicalized so many more people than ISIS. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Blah, blah. Last night, Republicans -- well, they started to pick up big wins. Look at the states they are winning -- Florida, Tennessee, Indiana, Missouri, massive victories in the states. And, by the way, elsewhere, commentators, anchors, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, once again, they started to crack up and melt down. It was like 2016 all over again for them. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tonight, there was some hope that the Democrats would have a wave election, it's not going to be a wave election. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can tell that there is not a blue wave forming. There is not a blue tsunami that's going to repudiate Donald Trump across the country. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you look at what's going on here tonight, this is not a blue wave. This is not a wave that is knocking out all sorts of Republican incumbents. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It has to be said, the Democrats are having, so far, a lot of vote to come in, a disappointing night. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But they can't have -- there is no tsunami. There is no tsunami coming. I mean, winning the House by one vote, one member, is enough, is enough for them, but there is a lot of disappointment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is heartbreaking, though. It's heartbreaking. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm still -- my nails are still like clutching to hope. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm thinking about the best laid plans in 2016, the Javits Center. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There is only so far science and polling and academics can take you. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: They don't really take losing well. I'm going to be honest, I don't like to lose either, I enjoy winning, and in particularly didn't like when Obama won met, not once, but twice. And not only did they once predicted a blue wave not materialize, but their anti-Trump narrative has been rejected by you, we, the American people, and we're doing so much better. Ever since Donald Trump announced his run for office, and Melania, Mr. Trump coming down that escalator in Trump Tower, they vilified everything this president has said or anything he has done, it has been an unprecedented amount of hatred, scorn, ridicule, attacks, delegitimization, of this president. Some coverage has been downright -- actually, hysterical, apocalyptic, over-the-top. Here is just a small sample of what you see day after day, every second, every minute, every hour of every 24-hour a day for over three straight years, all the same networks, and it never stops. And they can't help themselves, apparently. They must be like addicted to this hate. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is this president trying to impersonate Hugo Chavez? Recep Tayyip Erdogan? Vladimir Putin? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He said today, America first. It was not just racial, I mean, I shouldn't say racial, Hilterian background to it. Just like Kim Jong-un, what is he doing? Knocks off all his relatives when he gets scared. When you get scared of your positions, you start killing people around you, we don't do that in this country. We fire them. Trump seems to know how to fire. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is not of a sound. That's somebody that clinically look at and say, there is something wrong there. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Trump needs to be medicated and hospitalized. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump, again, being a schmuck. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can surely say, his words have absolutely emboldened white supremacists. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has given oxygen to racist. He is clearly trying to ignite a civil war in this country. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is a sign out there that has been hung up in the White House, outside the White House, saying, if you're not white, you are not especially welcome. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is a racist. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When do we see almost a shadow government come out and say, we cannot side with the government? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Just downright disgraceful. And, by the way, all over -- this is so-called news? Others speak in one voice with the Democratic Party? The state- run Democratic Party. Despite false claims of impartiality, being fair and balanced, these people, they work on every single day, they want to destroy the presidency of Donald Trump at all costs. Even, sadly, if it is going to hurt the people that are clearly benefiting in this country from his presidency. Isn't it supposed to be out serving people? And today in a press conference, the president came out with a conciliatory tone. Kind words for likely incoming Speaker Pelosi, urging bipartisanship and the newly divided Capitol Hill. But guess what? People in the media, they wanted none of it. Especially true of CNN's Jim Acosta. As he all but called the president a racist, tried to debate the president, thinking, oh, it's my TV show. And physically strong-arming a female White House aide, angry the blue wave his network predicted never materialized. This conduct is beyond reprehensible. Imagine anybody doing this to Obama. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM ACOSTA, CNN REPORTER: Mr. President, if I may ask a question, -- DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: That's enough. That's enough. ACOSTA: Pardon me, ma'am. TRUMP: That is enough. That's enough. Put down the mic. ACOSTA: Mr. President, are you worried about indictments coming down in this investigation? REPORTER: Mr. President? TRUMP: I tell you what? CNN should be ashamed of themselves having you work for them. You are a rude, terrible person. You shouldn't be working for CNN. Go ahead, please. REPORTER: Thank you, Mr. President. TRUMP: I'm not responding -- I'm responding -- excuse me, I'm not responding to you, I'm talking to this gentleman, will you please sit down? Excuse me. Excuse me. Would you please sit down? Please, go ahead. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Despite this is despicable conduct, CNN is actually defending their chief White House correspondent, Trump hater, Jim Acosta. In a statement, CNN wrote that the president's conduct with today's presser was quote, dangerous, disturbingly un-American. Well, breaking just moments ago, the White House responded, and they have suspended Acosta's White House pass until further notice. They wrote, quote: President Trump believes in a free press and expects and welcomes tough questions of him and his administration. We will, however, never tolerate a reporter placing his hands on a young woman, just trying to do her job as a White House intern. Now, the fact that CNN is proud of the way their employee behave is not only disgusting, it is an example of their outrageous disregard for everyone, including young women, who work in his administration. CNN's nonstop, apocalyptic rhetoric is not a winning message. Americans can see right through the biased vitriol, as we saw on the results last night. And by the way, Americans know that Democrats have no plan to make their lives better. And it's only going to get worse. By the way, we have the best plan ever, stay tuned. And now, with Nancy Pelosi, the de facto leader of the Democratic Party, along with, let's see, oh, the liar, shifty Schiff, and Maxine Waters, and Jerrold Nadler, Democrats sharpening their knives against President Trump's. Many top House Democrats planning nonstop investigations into the president, all designed to make him look bad. How does that whole help we, the people? How does that help the American still in poverty and food stamps and out of work? Today, the president responded to these threats. And guess what? Sometimes, what's good for the goose, good for the gander, and it works both ways. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REPORTER: Are you offering a "my way or highway" scenario to the Democrats? You are saying that if they start investigating you, that you can play that game and investigate them? Can you compartmentalize at that. TRUMP: I know more than they do. REPORTER: Can you compartmentalize that and still continue to work with them for the benefit of the rest of the country, or are all bets off? TRUMP: No, if they do that, then it's just all of it is a warlike posture. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, currently, Nancy Pelosi has an average approval rating, a whopping 27.5 percent. By the way, that's not going to get any better with the partisan political investigations. And as of now, Pelosi is the only leader in the Democratic Party, according to a recent poll ranking 2020, Democratic presidential contenders -- well, none of the above actually topped the list. We'll have more on this throughout the show. And I will tell you, this is a huge deal. One thing we promise on this program, we are going to watch every day, and we are going to watch their actions and their rhetoric, and we are going to see, what will they try to do to help the American people? Or is it just revenge? Is it about hitting Trump? All right. We turn to another huge story, broke just hours ago. Jeff Sessions is now out as attorney general. In a letter, he wrote, I have been honored to serve as the attorney general, and have worked to implement the law enforcement agenda based on the rule of law. That formed a central part of your campaign for the presidency. One thing, a commentary here -- I have known Jeff Sessions a long time. I personally thought he would be a great attorney general. Thought it was a great choice. I know him to be a good man. I know that for a fact. For whatever reason, him, and Sessions, Trump and Sessions, the president and Sessions, they just clashed from the get-go. And it started with the recusal, which shocked everybody, especially the president. And I think this probably was not the right job at the right time, that was his intention from the get- go. But I do think he's a good person. He has served his country honorably. Sadly, Sessions was MIA on one of the most important issues on going inside the halls of the DOJ. In just the first few weeks of taking office, Sessions recused himself from all things Russia. He should have told the president, in my belief, ahead of time. That ultimately led to Robert Mueller's special counsel and a witch hunt, which has now spent months, over a year, digging and digging and digging into everyone associated with Trump. No evidence of Trump-Russia collusion, found Paul Manafort imprisoned over bank applications and tax fraud from years ago. Young Trump campaign staffer George Papadopoulos, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, convicted of lying to investigators, nothing to do with Russia. Now, with Sessions out, the acting attorney general will be Matthew Whitaker. He will oversee the Russian investigation. The left is racing to demonize this man as we speak, and as I have been shouting from a mountaintop for years, there are a lot of crimes and a real, actual collusion that needs to be investigated if we are going to have equal justice under the law. The Russian lies bought by Hillary Clinton, the dirty Russian dossier. Let's not forget about the strategy to leak those lies to you, the American people, from high ranking members of Obama's government, why? To influence the 2016 election and help Hillary with propaganda and Russian lies. FISA abuse, literally lying to a FISA court, literally abusing power before a FISA court, not telling them the truth on purpose. A Trump campaign official was actually spied upon by your government, misleading FISA court judges, committing fraud, using the dirty dossier, circular reporting on that dossier, as the bulk of their evidence. Four FISA warrants, in other words, fraud committed on a court to get a warrant to spy on a campaign associate of Donald Trump in the lead up to an election and influence the American people, and then bludgeon Donald Trump with things that are not verified or corroborated. And of course, this all goes back to Hillary Clinton's private server in a bathroom closet, how she was exonerated before an investigation even started, really, weaponizing intelligence, FISA court fraud, insurance policies, a media leak strategy, so much for a real, un-recused attorney general to investigate. We'll see what happens. Acting Attorney General Whitaker has a strong record. That's why they want to demonize him. In a 2016 op-ed, he wrote that he would have indicted Hillary Clinton. In another, he wrote Mueller was going too far in his collusion investigation. And it did go too far. It looks like we can finally have an attorney general that is unrecused, will actually stand up for the rule of law, equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws. All right. When we come back, a lot of ground to cover tonight. Mark Levin, Newt Gingrich, Catherine Herridge, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, and everyone is asking why was I not on TV last night, I must have gotten in trouble. I'll explain, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Welcome back to "Hannity". All right. For more on the midterms, Jeff Sessions' resignation today, we go to the great one, Mark Levin, host of CRTV's "Levin TV", number one -- by the way, your ratings were a kilo on Sunday night. MARK LEVIN, FOX NEWS HOST: Well, we do our best. HANNITY: Thank me -- "Life, Liberty, and Levin" right here on the Fox News Channel. Let's start with the results -- I want to three topics for you, you can go in any order. I want your take on the results, your take on the media, and your reaction to Jeff Sessions' resignation today. LEVIN: Well, you know, Sean, in many ways, it's one and the same thing. The media were very angry today at that press conference, and you have to wonder why. I thought the president they said had a lousy night, the Democrats take about 34 seats. And I want the American people to understand what that means is they have an 11-member majority in the House. And with that 11-member majority, most of which are Republican seats, they intended to everything they can to cripple the executive branch and cripple the presidency, and I will get back to that in a minute. What we saw today and that press conference was a disgrace to this country. Imagine the world watching what took place there. These kamikaze journalists obviously in a coordinated attack on this president, they are trying to cripple this presidency, they are trying to sabotage this presidency, it's not going to work, but that's what they are doing. They are furious that this blue wave was a blue tickle last night, because that's all it was. And they've been talking about blue wave, they've been beating down this president, beating down the Republican Party, beating down these candidates. They pull out their racist tool to use, their white supremacy tool to use, they pull out their Nazi tool to use, their Hitler tool to use. They tried everything they could. You can't tell the difference but in Democrat talking points and the media in this country, because in many respects they are one and the same thing. Survey after survey, over the decades, have shown us that most in the media are liberal, most live and operate on the Eastern Seaboard and the Western Seaboard. Look at what is going to happen now in the House of Representatives. Look at the diversity of Marxist and Leninist, pretty much -- the Finance Committee, Maxine Waters, L.A. Let's see, the House Oversight Committee, Jerrold Nadler, Manhattan. The House Intelligence Committee, Adam Schiff, L.A. Elijah Cummings, heading the Oversight Committee, as well, he will be from where? Baltimore. And of course, you have Nancy Pelosi, San Francisco, it's over here and over here. What about the middle of the country and the rest of the country? They are not going to be represented because the Democrat Party is controlled by these hard-core leftists. I am sick and tired of these media types trying to hijack these press conferences. These press conferences are for the American people. CNN, you don't even have an audience, it's not for you. It's not for MSNBC, and it's not for every harebrained, malcontent, liberal dressed up as a journalist. You know, we have standards in this country for doctors, for lawyers, for truck drivers, for plumbers, for electricians, what are the standards for journalists? Fake Tapper, Fake Tapper was a spokesman for a Democratic congresswoman. Then he was a spokesman for handgun control. Now, he's a journalist. There is a guy that used to work for Obama who works at CNN, now he is a national security reporter. What are their standards? There are no standards for journalist today. And let me tell the journalist, you say tell the president, stop saying, stop saying the media are the enemy of the people. Now, he is not saying the whole media, he has about a thousand times. Let me tell the media something, the president isn't the enemy of the people, either, and you should stop your campaign of trying to cripple him and destroy him. They are upset because there was no blue wave. They are upset they lost in 2016. They are upset they lost in 2018, and guess what? They are going to lose in 2020, too. As for Sessions, it's a constitutional crisis, don't you know? What's a constitutional crisis? The president got rid of a cabinet secretary, the attorney general. He's only been telling us for ten months what he plans to do. It is likely Saturday night massacre. They drag out John Dean, a guy that doesn't even have a law license anymore, the guy who served time as I seem to recall, through Watergate. Now, he is a contributor to of, what, CNN or MSNBC? There's an authority. And what does he say? It's like the president is plotting to kill somebody, a murder. Well, so he gets rid of Sessions, what, so what happens? He has an acting attorney general, then I hear these so- called experts, he can't do that, there is a rule of succession -- of course he can do that. Moreover, they say it's like the Saturday night massacre -- how? Did he fire Mueller? Did he order the attorney general to fire Mueller? Did he order the deputy attorney general to fire Mueller? He hasn't ordered anyone to do anything to Mueller. Mueller is still, you know, roaming the countryside looking for people to prosecute and challenge and so forth and so on. Nothing has happened. But Schumer as they are, Schumer as they are, I think we have a constitutional crisis. Let me tell you something, this is an important point. I have said that the appointment of Mueller is unconstitutional it violates the Appointments Clause, and Schumer proves my point every day. You know why? Because if Mueller was like an assistant U.S. attorney, a U.S. attorney, they wouldn't keep saying he is separate, protect him, he is different, he has to report to himself effectively. That's why his appointment is unconstitutional, because it's supposed to go to the Senate and be confirmed, just a little nicety there that I wanted to mention, as well. In any event, the Republicans had a very good night, they had a good night, quite frankly, because of the president. It is the president who held the Senate, and some of these excellent candidates, and the losses in the house could have been worse. But they weren't worse. And that's why the media are furious, Sean, that's the bottom line. And I'm going to tell the media something. You are humiliating yourself, you are embarrassing yourselves, the American people, more and more are turning on you, not because of the president says you are the enemy of the people, but because you act like the enemy of the people. You know what we learned in this press conference today thanks to the media? Nothing. A presidential press conference isn't for CNN, which doesn't have any viewers, anyway, it's for we, the American people. You ask questions to elicit information from our president-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Hey, Mark. LEVIN: -- so we can know what's going on. HANNITY: You know, Mark, I put up Barack Obama in his first midterm, 69 House and Senate seats. Bill Clinton, 60. Three times, it has happened where a president in his first midterm wins as many seats, that's at. LEVIN: Yes. But he's a -- they are liberals, they are Democrats, they like them, so you know, they get treated quite differently. HANNITY: All right. Great one, we call you the great one for a reason. Mark Levin, don't miss "Life, Liberty, and Levin." The number show Sunday nights, 10 p.m., you get to see it all right here on the Fox News Channel. When we come back, our great historian our friend and former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, he will join us. Also, a live report from Catherine Herridge about Sessions resignation, and why wasn't I working last night? I'll tell you. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now -- all right, joining us now with the very latest on the resignation of Attorney General Sessions, the election, and, of course, well, poor Jim Acosta, anyway, Fox News chief intelligence correspondent, first on we got a report from our friend Catherine Herridge on Sessions. What's going on, Catherine? CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CHIEF INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Sean. This morning White House chief of staff John Kelly ask Attorney General Jeff Sessions to resign. And the news went public after the president's news conference. A source close to the administration told Fox that Whitaker is well-liked by the president, and not seen as an FBI or Justice Department insider who came up through the ranks with special counsel Robert Mueller, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, and others. Whitaker, who was a Sessions' chief of staff at the Justice Department and is now Rosenstein's boss is already under scrutiny tonight for tweets, in an op-ed he wrote last year about a redline he said special counsel Mueller should not cross, quote, "it does not take a lawyer or even a former federal prosecutor like myself to conclude that investigating Donald Trump's finances or his family's finances falls completely outside of the realm of his 2016 campaign. That goes beyond the scope of the appointment of the special counsel." Behind the scenes, Whitaker was described to Fox News as a quiet advocate for the declassification of the Russia records, which include the surveillance warrant renewal for a Trump campaign aide approved by Rosenstein in 2017. The president recently backed away from the declassification, but today seem to indicate it is back on track. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We are looking at that. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're still considering it. TRUMP: No, no, we're looking at it very seriously. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. TRUMP: Declassification, we are looking at very seriously. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Can I ask one more question? TRUMP: It's amazing how people on the other side just don't want those documents declassified, but we are looking into that very carefully. I certainly want to wait until after the midterms. (END VIDEO CLIP) HERRIDGE: Before last night's vote, a source close to the Russia congressional probe told Fox that they believe the White House would move quickly on the Justice Department shake-up if Republicans expanded their Senate majority, virtually guaranteeing, rather, a relatively smooth confirmation for the president's choice to ultimately lead the department, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Catherine Herridge in her Washington bureau tonight, thank you. Here with reaction, author of the bestseller "The Trump's America: The Truth About Our Nation's Great Comeback," Fox News contributor and former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich. The year you became speaker, the first time Republicans won in 40 years, Bill Clinton between the House and the Senate, he lost what, 52 House seats, eight Senate seats? Obama, in 2010, lost six Senate seats, but a whopping 63 House seats. I would say, by historical standards, the president picking up all of the seats in the Senate is a spectacular win for the president, and some of the most heavily financed races. Your thoughts? NEWT GINGRICH, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I think that's right. I think first of all, if you look at the average between Obama, Clinton, and Trump, Trump clearly did dramatically better, almost twice as well, and when instead gaining seat in the Senate, which given the nature of the 2020 Senate elections, probably means the Republicans now will be in a majority, in all probability, through 2022, or later. Very much different than what the Democrats hope for, some very big wins, some places where they were very hard-fought, Florida, for example. A remarkable outcome, both for governor and for senator. And on the House side, I think the first real break point was when 43 Republican House members decided that they would retire this year, which I think is the largest number in modern history. That gave them a tremendous number of openings to try to defend, and what you really saw, and I wrote in my newsletter today about this, you really saw a green wave of money. If we look at Texas, for example, where I think Beto O'Rourke will have spent over $70 million losing a U.S. Senate seat. And everywhere you turn around the country, particularly in House races, you are seeing enormous numbers of money coming in, whether it was from Bloomberg, writing million- dollar checks, other people from various organizations. I think one of the hidden stories that will come out in the next two or three weeks is the sheer scale of this green wave that was seeking to drown the Republican Party and defeat the president. HANNITY: You know, the amazing thing is, you ended up getting Clinton to change, and we balanced the budget for the first time. Listen, I remember you guys doing that town hall, you're sitting on these little seats one day. GINGRICH: Yes. HANNITY: But we did balance the budget, it made real progress, there's a lot of give and take in that. Is Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Jerrold Nadler, are they capable of doing what Clinton did, which I think, easily helped him get reelected two years later? GINGRICH: You know, I don't know, I thought earlier today that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell had a great interview, and he said to them something which I can reflect on, because I was there, and that is that the politics of investigation may make your partisans happy, but may turn off a lot of people. I think the president clearly is going to reach out on things like infrastructure, he is going to reach out on some practical common-sense steps on health care, including lowering the cost of drugs, I think he is going to try to find issues to make it very hard for the Democrats to say no. And then we will see whether or not they are so rabid, and certainly the left wing of the Democratic Party is much more rabid than anything that either Clinton or I had to deal with in the '90s. And so, it will be interesting to see how it develops. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What is your reaction to Jeff Sessions' announcement today? Because I couldn't believe when he recused himself. If he had any thought that he would do this, I thought he would have told the president, at least the courtesy of a heads up, hey, I may have to recuse here. And we know the results of all of that, and I know now they are trying to go after the interim attorney general. But I think, for a president not to have an attorney general and the most important case that he wanted in his administration has been very harmful. GINGRICH: Well, first of all, I think it was handled exactly right, because of the day after all of the election, I think the chief of staff, John Kelly, did the right thing, and an immediate response, knowing it was coming, the attorney general did the right thing in resigning. I will say just for a minute if I could, Sean, I've known Jeff Sessions for a long time. He was a very solid conservative in the Senate, he actually helped organize the first Trump campaign meeting in Washington, and it is been sad to see him after he go through all of this, and I suspect he is a very relieved guy tonight. HANNITY: I've always known him to be a good man, I agree with you, this was not the right position. I was, it worked out, I think, just better for everybody at this point. GINGRICH: That's right. HANNITY: Mr. Speaker, thank you so much. When we come back, OK, Jeff Sessions gone, everything about the Mueller probe that the left doesn't want investigated that may now begin. This could be very interesting. Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Jason Chaffetz, and why didn't I work on election night? I will explain all of that straight ahead. HANNITY: All right, tonight, Democrats are quick to push more Russia hysteria following the departure of the Attorney General Jeff Sessions. For example, Congressman Jerrold Nadler, get used to him, we are going to be following him and, let's see, Pelosi, and Maxine Waters, we are going to see if they are going to work for you. He is expected to be the next house judiciary chair, tweeting that he wants answers about who is now in charge of the Mueller probe and suggested more endless investigations. That is really going to help the American people. Joining us now, author of The New York Times bestseller "The Russia Hoax," Fox News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett. Also, the author of "The Deep State," another New York Times bestseller, Fox News contributor, Jason Chaffetz, Sara Carter, investigative reporter and Fox News contributor. Where is your book? How come you don't have a book? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I'm going to have a book, Sean, you know it, too. HANNITY: All right. You know, I know that almost immediately, this recusal, recusal. Gregg Jarrett, you probably have been the single most outspoken person that Sessions has to go, what do you think of the interim attorney general? Do think he is going to recuse, God help us? GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: No. HANNITY: Or with the president now appoint a full-time replacement? JARRETT: Well, now that there is no recusal because Sessions is gone, the acting attorney general, Matt Whitaker, can now preside over the special counsel case, and he should. What the media didn't point out today is that Rod Rosenstein should recuse himself, he is both a witness and a prosecutor in the same case. Whether it's Whitaker in the end who is the permanent A.G., or, I would recommend Representative John Ratcliffe of the House judiciary committee, former top official at DOJ, former U.S. attorney. Those individuals, Ratcliffe or Whitaker, I think, would bring to justice those in the Department of Justice and the FBI who abuse their positions of power to target Donald Trump without evidence, and to spy on the Trump campaign with fabricated evidence. HANNITY: And Jason, let me go to you, you know Whitaker. We've known his work now for a long time. The president was very clear, those 302's, the gang of eight information, those FISA warrant applications they may now all will be released. I also would say that probably, the investigations into Hillary, and all of these other instances, FISA abuse, lying to the FISA court, abuse of some of the powerful tools of intelligence, might now be on the table. JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. Look, Senator Sessions then became Attorney General Sessions, he was a revered member of the Republican Party, and I wish him nothing but the best, but when he it became the attorney general, I got to tell you, members of Congress became very dissatisfied with him because he did not loosen up the documents, did not respond to subpoenas, and did not give people like myself, when I was the chairman of the oversight committee, the documents that we wanted. Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, Trey Gowdy, John Ratcliffe, they can't do their job unless they have their documents. So, now that there's new leadership in place, I think there is an expectation that those things do get loosened up, and by the way, I agree with Gregg, I hope that President Trump appoints John Ratcliffe, I think he is best person to do that. HANNITY: Really? OK. CHAFFETZ: Yes. HANNITY: Sara, now the exoneration before investigation, the real Russian dossier, that can now be investigated by the new attorney general. Democrats want a lot of investigations, there are a lot of fertile ground that we know crimes were committed. CARTER: Absolutely. And I think one of the things that they're going to be looking at is also all the unmaskings. How was the intelligence community weaponized, particularly and how the FBI handled this investigation into President Trump? I mean, there are so many avenues that can be looked at right now, and we know, based on what President Trump said today, that there is a strong possibility, Sean, that these documents will be declassified, the American public deserves to know what was going on. And I've also been hearing that indictments may be around the corner, so there is a lot more information that's going to come out in the near future. I think the president did the right thing, he waited until after the midterms, and it was expected, the president has every right, every right, to say it is over, Jeff Sessions. And you know, most of the time it would have happened anyways. It's been two years, it's time for Jeff Sessions to move on-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: If I was Hillary, if I was some of these top DOJ, FBI officials, I think I'd be very nervous tonight about what could be coming. You all agree with that, real quick. JARRETT: The law enforcers became the lawbreakers, they should now be held accountable. HANNITY: Jason, will that happen? CHAFFETZ: After the inspector general report, it is crystal clear that is Department of Justice that's in chaos, and they need new leadership to straighten the ship out. HANNITY: Ten seconds, Sara, is it going to happen? CARTER: That is what I was just going to say, it is going to happen, it will happen, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Many of you think I was lazy and didn't show up for work last night. I have an announcement. HANNITY: All right. Welcome back to HANNITY. Before we go, a lot of you last night wondering, my gosh, where is Sean Hannity? Why isn't he here? I don't work on election nights. I haven't for most of the years I've been here. I want to address something because, you know, it's amazing the things that people write that aren't true, you know. So, we did this event with Donald Trump the other day in Cape Girardeau, Missouri, and I tweeted out I was not part of whatever coverage was going to take place at the campaign. I gave a tweet that was 100 percent truthful. I was watching Rush give his speech. The president, I had no idea. He invited me on stage. I'll be honest, I was honored by the president's request. It was not planned. And I want to be very, very clear. I'm up on stage. You know you've heard me say it all the time, every day, every night, because I believe it's true. That there's a lot of fake news. I want to be very clear, especially after hearing some commentary, and reading some things. I was not and would never refer to my friends, my colleagues here at the Fox News Channel in those remarks. As a matter of fact, they are such a cut above everybody else. By the way -- if anybody construed it that way, I'm totally sorry in terms of the people that I work with. I called a couple of my friends, colleagues here, and I've had a great relationship with almost everybody here all the time I've worked here. I'm very -- I am a talk show host. They do news. I don't know how they do what they do. They do local news. National news. International news. Well, they have one really tough job because they have to stay fair and balanced and they do that in an amazing way every single day. Me? I'm like the whole newspaper. We do news. We do investigative reporting. We give strong opinions. And yes, sometimes they have to take heat because of what their opinion side friends say. But I want to tell you something: I'm so honored and proud being able to work here with the best journalists in the entire country. They are -- by the way, we saw it in the ratings last night and I wasn't even here. Higher than my ratings by a lot, actually. Number one, beating all the networks, beating all the cable channels. They did an amazing job. That's what they do. I'm proud to be a small part of this. And I love these colleagues. Most of them are like friends. All of them, as a matter of fact. All right, that's all the time we have left this evening. As always, thank you for being with us. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is next live. We'll see you back here tomorrow night. Load-Date: November 8, 2018 End of Document At Trump's Request, Attorney General Jeff Sessions Resigns And Matt Whitaker Takes Over As Acting Attorney General; Democrats Calling For Matt Whitaker For A Recusal For His Past Comments On The Mueller Probe; Trump And Republicans Claim The Senate In The Midterms; Racism By Leftist Media Even After The Midterms; Celebrities Attempts To Encourage Voting Examined; President Trump Holds Press Conference After Midterm Elections; Nancy Pelosi Makes Bid For House Speaker Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 7, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7760 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Andy McCarthy, Raymond Arroyo, Byron York, Matt Shlapp Guests: Joe diGenova, George Terwilliger, Dan Bongino Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: That's what they do. I'm proud to be a small part of this and I love these colleagues. Most of them are like friends, all of them, as a matter of fact. All right, that's all the time we have left this evening. As always, thank you for being with us. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is next live. We'll see you back here tomorrow night. INGRAHAM: I'm Laura Ingraham and this is the "Ingraham Angle" and we have breaking news on multiple fronts tonight. We are going to unpack it all for you. And I tell you, where the dust is still settling on the split midterm results, another bombshell appears to the news cycle. Jeff Sessions is out. The attorney general has submitted his resignation at President Trump's request and we are going to have reaction to all the fallout in just moments including what this could mean for the Mueller probe. It's freaking everyone out. Also tonight, my angle on what the midterm results mean for you and for this president. Plus, Trump takes it to the media -- this was unbelievable today. I scream in laughing. Why a raucous White House press conference earlier today reveals the media have basically learned zippo during these past two years. And Raymond Arroyo is here for "Seen and Unseen." He tackles the big losers of last night, especially the celebrity stars who started to fall. But we begin tonight with the news that pushed the midterms off the front page, the resignation of Jeff Sessions. All right, Sessions' departure comes less than two years after he angered Trump by recusing himself from the Russia probe. The president repeatedly expressed his frustration over that original decision to recuse. Now, stepping in as acting attorney general is Matt Whitaker. He is a former U.S. attorney from Iowa who is serving now or was, as Sessions' chief of staff. Now, Trump is said to have a very strong personal rapport with Whitaker who at least for now will oversee the Mueller probe and the rest of the DOJ business, which includes, by the way, DOJ's other federal investigations including those New York prosecutors who were looking into the finances of the president and his former aides. Now, for what this A.G. resignation could mean, we are joined now by former U.S. attorney Joe diGenova who is not in the studio -- so sad are we. Former assistant U.S. attorney and Fox News contributor Andy McCarthy and George Terwilliger, former DOJ deputy attorney general who actually became an acting A.G. himself. Now Joe, let's start with you. Democrats are already calling for Whitaker to recuse himself because of his past statements on another network. He was a contributor and he made some comments about the Mueller probe in writing. We'll get to some of them in a moment, but your reaction? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: Well, those previous comments are not recusable comments. Mr. Whitaker is a fine person. He is completely independent. He knows about the administration of this particular case. I am delighted that supervision of this case has been taken away from Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein in light of his conduct. And I think that Mr. Whitaker will handle this fine. The Democrats are doing what they always do, when they don't have anything else, they just start screaming and yelling. This is an embarrassment to them, but it's going to continue and Mr. Whitaker is going to be just fine. INGRAHAM: George, I want to go to you since you were acting A.G. and I remember now! I hadn't forgotten! All right, so Schumer today said the following, George. He said, given his previous comments advocating defunding and imposing limitations on the Mueller investigation, Mr. Whitaker shouldn't recuse himself from its oversight for the duration of his time as acting attorney general. And just so people know what we are talking about, I want to play this sound bite from Mark Whitaker. Now, this George was from CNN and it was back in July of 2017. Let's take a look. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MATTHEW WHITAKER, ACTING ATTORNEY GEBERAL: Well, I can see a scenario where Jeff Sessions is replaced with a recess appointment, and that attorney general doesn't fire Bob Mueller but he just reduces the budget so low that his investigation grinds to almost halt. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Different life, he was working for a network. Grounds for recusal? GEORGE TERWILLIGER, FORMER DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL: No. I mean, two quick points, Laura. One, if every time a lawyer made comments about some matter of public interest and then later got involved and would have to recuse himself, poor Joe for example, wouldn't be able to practice law. But secondly, your point is well taken. The fact of the matter is -- DIGENOVA: And I'm doing just fine. TERWILLIGER: -- that this was a different time, a different set of facts. And I'm sure Matt will make his decisions in this case, based on whatever circumstances he becomes aware of. INGRAHAM: So, and just for our viewers' edification here, as acting attorney general you have all the powers of the attorney general, correct. You just simply haven't gone through Senate confirmation, and it's thought to be temporary. Could it be indefinite? TERWILLIGER: Well, under the vacancies act, there'll be some limitations of time. And Matt can't be nominated to succeed to his own position while he's in the position. And there are a couple of exceptions such as he cannot sign FISA's. INGRAHAM: OK now, this is getting very interesting. All right. We got to go to Andy here. John Brennan, your favorite, Andy, was out today -- sorry, Joe's favorite -- was out today, of course, banging the same recusal drum that George were just referencing. Let's watch Brennan and company. (BEGIN VIDEOCLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR (via telephone): Matt Whitaker comes with a lot of baggage and it's going to be quite evident I think whether or not he is going to fulfill his responsibilities now in that position. NICOLE WALLACE, MSNBC HOST: Are you saying that Mr. Whitaker with his public statements, public writings and his comments on television should be recused from overseeing the Mueller probe based on those statements? BRENNAN: I would think that there is a very strong case that given his public acknowledgment of this prejudice to view on this issue that he should recuse himself. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Andy? More recusal talk. It's what they pushed Sessions into doing and I know there's a debate about that. I still say Sessions didn't have to recuse himself but he rushed to recuse himself. A lot of pressure put on him and he wilted under it in my view. But is there really legitimate grounds here for a former commentator to have to recuse here? ANDY MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: No, Laura. I look very carefully at what he said when he was at CNN. I actually have a column up about this at "National Review" tomorrow. He didn't say anything that was in the nature of recusable commentary. He didn't make any prejudgments about the investigation. He didn't say anything to denigrate what Mueller is up to. And what I find fascinating and I'm not casting aspersions, I want to be clear, on deputy attorney general Rosenstein's ethics. But I have not heard any of these guys complaining that Rosenstein is overseeing this investigation, notwithstanding that Mueller is investigating supposedly Trump for obstructing the investigation by firing Comey, a transaction in which Rosenstein is a key player. So if there is anybody in this equation that has a screaming conflict of interest, it's Rod Rosenstein. And I haven't heard these guys say a word about that. INGRAHAM: Joe, I have to ask you on picks for attorney general. We all have maybe a couple of ideas. What are your ideas? DIGENOVA: Well, I have a couple of ideas which I have shared with the president and I'm not going to share them with anybody else. INGRAHAM: OK. DIGENOVA: So if I say any of my ideas, I will be sharing a conversation with the president, so. INGRAHAM: I got it. Can you give us a vowel and you know, can we do a wheel of fortune? I mean, my gosh, this is so frustrating. Now everybody is going to want -- OK, forget it -- DIGENOVA: There are plenty of great people. There are plenty of great people. INGRAHAM: OK, that's it. That's such a uncharacteristically vague answer from Joe diGenova. He's always going right into the day (ph). All right, Terwilliger, couple of ideas. Come on, just throw it out. This is a fun conversation. We don't know who -- TERWILLIGER: I agree with Joe. There's lots of great people out there. INGRAHAM: OK. Am I the only one who's going to give the president any advice here on who should be -- OK, Andy, do you have any -- other than Andy and Joe and George -- Andy, Joe, George, attorney general -- Andy, would you take it? If he asked you would you do it? MCCARTHY: Laura, I do not need to be on a signature line. I'm content to not be in the caption under where it says "U.S. versus." That's what I'm trying to say at this point. Look, George Terwilliger and Joe diGenova have been on the top of every single list of this question every single time I've ever been asked it, and boy, could the president ever do a lot worse. INGRAHAM: Yes, so we got Terwilliger on the list. I was just trying to hint around this, Andy. You gave it away. All right. So you got Joe on the list. You got Terwilliger on the list. I'm going to -- you are. All right, I'm going to make a suggestion. And just to throw it out there, you can all criticize and attack. It's fine. I'm going to make a suggestion of Chris Christie. And I'm going to tell you why, OK. I think there are a number of reasons why Christie would be good and we might have him out of order if we have a graphic. Number one, he has about an 18-year personal relationship with the president. They get along. They know each other. He has already walked through the media fire. He knows what it's like to be in the bright, white spotlight of the New York media, and frankly the national media. I think temperamentally he and Trump are similar. They get along as people. They have kind of a similar style. I don't think that's a detriment in this job whatsoever. He was known as a tough as nails prosecutor, very well respected by career prosecutors at DOJ. I think, you know, bridge-gate -- I don't think any of that matters I think with the number of Republicans we have now in the Senate. Christie would get confirmed if the president said this is the guy I want. I think Chris Christie would get confirmed. I don't think it would be much of a problem and I don't think the beach photo or the beach closure is going to knock him out of it, OK. That's my view. All right, come on, Joe, give me some thoughts on that. Christie? DIGENOVA: Chris Christie would be fine. He's experienced. He's smart. He's intelligent. He would have the full confidence of the president of the United States which to me was missing with the relationship with Jeff Sessions. The president is entitled to have a full-time attorney general and Christie could fulfill that role very nicely. INGRAHAM: Andy McCarthy, what about Christie? MCCARTHY: I've had my policy disagreements with him, but no one can question his credentials. I'd be worried that the bridgegate thing would be more of a problem than I think you are calculating because I think they would try to re-litigate that whole thing, but let -- INGRAHAM: But Republicans in the Senate aren't going to re-litigate it. If the president said, look, he's my guy. I know him. He's not going to wilt under pressure. He's not going to go, "recusal, recusal, recusal." He's not going to do that. Plus he has actually a good relationship with Mueller, right. I mean, not good a relationship but he respects Mueller. He's not been on T.V. saying it's, you know, a witch hunt which I think would be a problem for him becoming attorney general. He's been quite, I think, dispassionate in his overall analysis, Andy MCCARTHY: Yes -- no, look, all of that is true. I just think -- I probably think it would be more of a problem than you do in terms of the way it would play out at a confirmation hearing. But I do think he'd be confirmed and I think he'd do a good job. And by the way, his lawyer in bridgegate was Christopher Wray. INGRAHAM: OK, the tangled tentacles all around. All right, George, before I let you go. What do the Republicans have in store in the House of Representatives? So they have subpoena power, all these very anxious Democrats have been out of power for a while, tax returns, emoluments clause, business dealings? They're itching for it. TERWILLIGER: It has the promise of getting really ugly. And I think the White House is going -- and the administration in general are going to have to make some very hard decisions about what things to fight, when to fight, and how to fight, but they are going to have to fight. INGRAHAM: And again, Chris Christie is a fighter. I mean, anyone who's seen his old press conferences from New Jersey is among the most entertaining, but he does it -- he's really smart. TERWILLIGER: That's true. And he's also, I mean, I think it's really important that somebody at the top of the Justice Department, particularly with these issues actually be a real prosecutor, you know. INGRAHAM: Who knows how to do it? TERWILLIGER: Exactly. Yes. INGRAHAM: Who knows what it's all about? And that's I think, that was a deficit, was it not, Joe, for Jeff Sessions. Jeff Sessions I think is a very nice person. He's phenomenal on so many of the issues that Trump cares about and was great. I love what he's doing on the marijuana thing. I'm with him on that. But temperament versus real nuts and bolts experience in that regard I think is hard. DIGENOVA: Well, and he had another problem and that is the president insists on people who have command presence. That is certainly something which Chris Christie would bring to the job. And with Robert Mueller spending more than $38 million to produce absolutely nothing by way of Russian collusion, Christie would be the perfect overseer of that monstrosity. INGRAHAM: And before I let you go, Andy, does the Mueller investigation -- how do you see it developing at this point with the change of Sessions? MCCARTHY: I think it's probably pretty right. I think Mueller is towards the end of what he's doing anyway, but I love that you want a wartime consigliore. INGRAHAM: You bet. I go for the Italians. It's the Italian mindsets with diGenova. I mean, now we like the Irish too. MCCARTHY: Joe, did I pronounce that right. Joe? INGRAHAM: Yes, you did. DIGENOVA: Yes. Yes you did and by the way -- INGRAHAM: Have you never watched "Godfather?" My god. If you never watched "Godfather" 1 and 2, the best movies ever made. All right guys fantastic. Thank you so much for your insight. And George, great to have you. Will you come back? TERWILLIGER: I'd love to. It's good to see you, Laura. INGRAHAM: You're fantastic. I mean, you're much better than Joe and Andy. Oh, I'm just kidding. All right, for more on why Trump won and how the GOP can do it again, remember get a copy of my new paper back, you will love it, "Busting The Barricades: What I Saw at the Populist Revolt" in bookstores everywhere. And coming up, I'm going to tell you what the midterm elections really mean in a special election edition of "The Angle." So stay there. INGRAHAM: Trump's victory and the Democrats' race to defeat. That's the focus of tonight's "Angle." All things considered, it was a very, very good night for Republicans and a major win for Donald Trump. Now, the president was absolutely tireless on the campaign trail. He stumped for Republican senate candidates across the country. Trump ignored the advice of people like Paul Ryan, god bless him, and the liberal media consultants. And that he followed his own political instincts. And I will say that those instincts are generally superior to all the so- called pros, many who a few months ago by the way were predicting a big blue wave, which in the Senate was more like a wave goodbye for Democrats. And in the end, the president accurately laid out what this midterm would hinge on. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONADL TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This will be the election of the caravan, Kavanaugh, law and order, tax cuts, and common sense. That's what it is, common sense. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He couldn't have been more correct. In the end, the Republican saw historic gains in the Senates, something that has only happened three times since 1906. And certainly, Kavanaugh, and he ticked that off, was a huge factor. Almost all the Democratic senators in tight races who voted against Kavanaugh lost. And those who suggested that the president should've muted his talk of immigration on the campaign trail -- hello, Paul Ryan -- were simply wrong. Most pro-amnesty Republicans -- well, they either retired or lost. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: You have some that decided to, let's stay away, let's stay away. They did very poorly. Carlos Curbelo, Mike Coffman -- too bad, Mike. Mia Love. Mia Love gave me no love. And Barbara Comstock was another one. Peter Roskam, didn't want to embrace. Eric Paulson didn't want to embrace. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Why didn't they want the embrace? Mia Love didn't give me love - - I'm sorry but I'm screaming. It was so funny. All right, so most of those who bucked the president on immigration, they crashed and burned. Still others like Paul Ryan, Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, and as we said, they retired. And of course there were some exceptions. We got to be fair. Kris Kobach was basically attached to the hip with Trump on immigration, but he lost in Kansas's gubernatorial contest. Sadly, he just wasn't a great campaigner. But on the whole, Trump's strong immigration policies prove a deciding factor in both the senate and gubernatorial victories in Florida, Texas, and in Georgia. Now, in Florida, for example, voters rated immigration the second most important issue. Just a few points behind health care. Check it out, three points. Now, these midterms also show that neither political nor Hollywood star power paid off in Georgia or in Florida. And what the Democrats did achieve in these midterms was a, well, below average pickup of seats in the House against the party of power. The amazing thing is with all this happening, the democrats still really haven't learned anything. Since Donald Trump descended that big brass escalator in the Tower, they've been trying to cast him as a racist, a homophobe -- not homophobe -- xenophobe, biased, you know, he's kind of like an Archie Bunker in a long red tie. Actually, Archie Bunker, a lot of people would know (inaudible) but, you know, it's just you cannot put up with someone like Archie Bunker today. My friends, the Democrats are bereft of real ideas. So rather than offering some, they propose socialist style freebies, in health care, college, universal pre-k. And the Democrats once again, by the way, went all in for identity politics in the midterms. They tried to argue that Brian Kemp in Georgia was trying to stop black people from voting. It's ridiculous. They tried to argue that Ron DeSantis in Florioda was some kind of closet racist for questioning Gillum's ethics. And it went on and on and on. And even after they got shellacked in 2016 and lost the Senate last night, they are still dealing the race card. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He used every race, dog whistle, every bigotry that he had. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Making overtly bigoted, racist statements, attacking brown people, attacking black people. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want us to watch because he's going to replace the caravan with a New York (inaudible), west coast intellectual Jew (ph) Adam Schiff, a black man, elijah cummings, and a woman, Nancy Pelosi. CHUCK TODD, MSNBC HOST: The president has enough support and enough places to win big races in states that have large enough rural populations to either offset suburban America or whatever. (BEGI VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It's those racist rural people. So, how dare those country bumpkins ruin the country for the urbanite elites? Now, when the country rejects the left's racialization of politics, well, basically the Democrats just write them off altogether. I have a simple question though to ask. How do you build a political movement by hating on basically half of the American people? Rather than grapple with why this tactic fell flat last night, the media continued the race to the bottom during today's White House news conference. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: On the campaign trail you called yourself a nationalist. Some people saw that as emboldening white nationalist. Now people are also saying that the president -- TRUMP: I don't know why you'd say that. It's such a racist question UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There are some people that say that now the Republican Party is seen as supporting white nationalists because of your rhetoric. What do you make of it? TRUMP: Oh, I don't believe that. I don't believe that. Why do I have my highest poll numbers ever with African- Americans? Why do I have among the highest poll numbers with African-Americans? I mean, why do I have my highest pollings? That such a racist question. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you ever made racist remarks? TRUMP: I don't know. No, no, I would never do that and I don't use racist remarks. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, one point of fact -- TRUMP: Go ahead. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, no, one point of fact, because you told her you have the highest poll among African- Americans. It's just eight percent, sir. Single digits. TRUMP: So when you talk about division, it's people like this that cause division. Great division -- point of fact is that I never used a racist remark. That's the point of fact. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The press was just absolutely reprehensible today. I have never seen anything like that. And the president is right. Rasmussen's tracking poll from October 29th has the president at a 40 percent approval among black respondents. So he can throw out those single digits all they want, let's take -- take a (inaudible), 40 to 8, let's say it's 25. Now, it's good that the president smashed back against these obvious attempts to recast his victory and demonize his supporters. Here are the facts, the Democrats have lost two Supreme Court seats, the Senate, and the White House. And after two years of protest and nonstop attacks on Trump, they emerge from the midterms with no mandate. Good going, guys! There is no doubt the president of course now will have his work cut out for him. He is going to have to recalibrate his approach as the New Year begins under Democratic house rule. So he would be wise to do a few things. Begin to expand his movements beyond where it already is and he's got to adapt to the changing demographics in key states. Occasionally, he should shift to a more moderate tone while not moderating his policies. He should offer to work with Democrats on issues of common concern which by the way, he did today! Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: I put that statement out on social media today about Nancy Pelosi and a lot of people thought I was being sarcastic or I was kidding. I wasn't. I think she deserves it. She's fought long and hard. She's a very capable person. Nancy Pelosi and I can work together and get a lot of things done. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was a great moment, but he's getting no credit for that. Now, sometimes the president might seem to think that showing his humanity or soft -- I do not want to say soft, maybe his humanity is a sign of weakness. It's not. And the turning on the charm sometimes, it resonates especially with female voters. So going forward, the president should urge by the way, separate from all the tone and how you should come off, the president should urge Mitch McConnell to go full steam ahead with Senate confirmation of both judges and members of the executive branch. The next Supreme Court nominee should be chosen without regard to gender, skin color, none of the bean counting. It should only be based on his or her conservative bonafides up. Forget the bean counting, you don't need to do it. Now, don't fret the House investigations Mr. President. We all know that Nadler, Maxine, Schiff, et cetera, will all take you the step too far in their fervor for payback, and the voters won't like that at all. President Trump will have to be more creative in advancing his agenda forward. But in the meantime, he should feel really good about what he accomplished, especially since the voters may have unwittingly given the president something he has needed for so long. A clear and worthy opponent. And that's "The Angle." All right, coming up, who were the biggest losers last night? Hollywood, for one. And they still haven't gotten the memo. Raymond Arroyo is here. "Seen and Unseen" next. (COMMERCIAL BEAK) INGRAHAM: Time for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we explore some of the big cultural stories of the day. Now it could be the biggest Hollywood flop ever, maybe since the "Ghostbusters" reboot. Their political advocacy did not achieve what they had hoped. Joining us now, Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the just released paperback, "Mother Angelica, Her Grand Silence." Everyone get out and get that. Now, Raymond, Hollywood just had a horrible night. They accused me of trolling Taylor Swift, by the way, in "The Hollywood Reporter." I just sent a funny tweet. I think she's adorable. She's an adorable young woman. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: The goal for many in Hollywood, Laura, and the Hollywood community was to turn out that young vote. One of the biggest efforts was a star-studded telethon organized by comedian Ben Gleib. Jerry Lewis had the Love Network. This was the Resist Network. And as we reported the other night, the idea was that you called in and pledged to vote and a star would call you back. There was only one problem -- no one knew who host Ben Gleib was and they barely knew the stars at the phone back. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are going into our celebrity phone bank. This is amazing. Look at these incredible people we have here. Ariel. Oh, my God, hello, high five. Guys, Jamila here. We've got everybody here in the phone bank. We've got Erik Griffin. Oh, my God. We've got Matt Smith, everybody. We've got an incredible lineup right here. Hello, everybody, we've got Bill Bellamy, Debra Messing, Fortune, Ike Barinholtz. Holy crap. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Lovely, "holy crap." ARROYO: Debra Messing is the only person I recognize in that entire lineup. INGRAHAM: Only one. I literally was like, Joe Smith. ARROYO: Mike Brown. Needless to say, this effort did not produce much. There was a bump, though, in the youth vote. According to a Tufts study, there was a 10 percent increase in voters 18 to 29, but two-thirds of those were Democratic. And this is where things fell apart. A third was conservative. So despite Taylor Swift and Will Farrell's efforts, there were young conservatives in the mix, which threw off Hollywood's intended efforts. INGRAHAM: Charlie Kirk, maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses. It might be working, the crossroads. ARROYO: The youth vote failed to flip any of the major races, Laura, in Florida, Georgia, Texas. Actresses Julianne Moore and Rosario Dawson even narrated an ad on Trump's immigration policy to try to move voters. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Then they created a humanitarian crisis by cruelly separating many of those families and putting the children in cages. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They want to begin imprisoning these children indefinitely. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Imprisoning children indefinitely. INGRAHAM: Indefinitely. ARROYO: So we just take children from immigrant's arms and keep them. They keep them for a limited time while they await trial and make sure they are with the adults -- INGRAHAM: First of all, they might not be aware of a third branch of government. It's called the judiciary. And the judicial branch has said only 20 days. Maybe we should sent them a pocket copy of the constitution, Raymond. ARROYO: Here's the unseen bit of this. This whole effort was organized by a group called We Stand United, Mark Ruffalo, Marisa Tomei, and others. These are filmmakers, people in the digital industry. They band their efforts, they tell stories they hope will move the electorate. So they got what they wanted partially. INGRAHAM: Will they ever stop politicking? Tell me what happened at the Israel film festival in Beverly Hills. That actually sounds like a fun film festival. ARROYO: This is the 32nd film festival. Jason Blum, the producer of "Halloween" and "Get Out," Oscar winner, he was given an award, a film award. When he got up, he started talking about Trump. And he said not only did he like the president, but the president is creating anti- Semitism. This crowd didn't like it. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And now I'm being physically removed. It's why Trump is not the right guy. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: They are yelling, and pulling him off the stage. The film festival says, look, we got security in there to take him away for his own safety. But he picked the wrong crowd. Here's the unseen bit of this. This film festival has long been sponsored by the Sheldon Adelson Foundation, a very conservative funder of Republicans. There must've been a lot of pro-Israeli, pro-Trump people in the room. They didn't like this. I don't like this kind of civility. However, when you go up to get a film award and that's what the audience expects, you don't throw politics in. And some people were yelling. If you listen closely, it's a film festival, not a political rally. INGRAHAM: We are sick of hearing your political views when you're accepting an award. We didn't go to the movie to hear your political views. They're not, frankly, very interesting. Sorry. But let me tell you, that was an interesting moment. They don't think he's anti-Semitic, do they? ARROYO: Before I go, last night we were watching Nancy Pelosi's news conference, Laura, and you noticed that assistant Democratic leader Jim Clyburn standing here behind Pelosi, did not crack a smile throughout the whole presser. So it made me think of a song. INGRAHAM: What song? (MUSIC) ARROYO: And you tweeted out, why is Jim Clyburn not smiling? Today he did his own interview with CNN. Look what happened. Wait till you see. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A big night for you. Back in the majority very soon. Should the focus now for Democrats be finding more common ground with the president? (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: So he can't smile without you, Laura. He must have read your tweet. INGRAHAM: I just saw them there, and it was after all the coverage -- by the way, great night for FOX News. Awesome, everybody. Great team effort. All the production, all the people behind the scenes. The people on camera, they are all right. But the people behind the scenes are the best. But I was just watching, they won the House. He looks like he lost his best friend with old Nancy. ARROYO: He found his smile the next day, Laura. INGRAHAM: But he also had a shawl collar on. ARROYO: You're not going to get on people for the shawl collar sweaters. I like those sweaters. INGRAHAM: We'll have to ask Tommy whether he is pro or anti, our executive producer, shawl collars. Sorry. ARROYO: I've never seen anybody with a greater opinion of man's couture than you. INGRAHAM: Shawl collars, ixnay. But he smiled. I was glad he was happy. ARROYO: Andy Williams loves those. INGRAHAM: Good. No big turtlenecks. Thank you, Raymond. In one postelection press conference with the president, the media revealed they have learned a zippo in the past two years. Bongino, Schlapp, and York breakdown why the country sees the media as more divisive than the president, next. INGRAHAM: A short while ago, the White House announced they are suspending access to CNN reporter Jim Acosta after some absurd self-involved theatrics during a White House news conference today. Here are some choice moments. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I wanted to challenge you on one of the statements you made on the tail end of the campaign in the midterms. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Here we go -- ACOSTA: Well, if you don't mind, Mr. President, that this caravan was an invasion -- TRUMP: I consider it to be an invasion. ACOSTA: Mr. President, that's not an invasion. TRUMP: Honestly, I think you should let me run the country, you run CNN, and if you did it well your ratings would be much better. ACOSTA: If I may ask one other question. Are you worried -- TRUMP: That's enough. That's enough. ACOSTA: Mr. President, I was going to ask one other -- the other folks -- pardon me, ma'am. TRUMP: That's enough. I'll tell you what. CNN should be ashamed of itself having you working for them. You are a rude, terrible person. You shouldn't be working for CNN. ACOSTA: Mr. President, you repeatedly over the course of -- TRUMP: Just sit down, please. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You said the Democrats would unleash a wave of violent crime that endangers families everywhere. TRUMP: Because they are very weak on crime. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are you pitting Americans against one another. TRUMP: Peter, what are you trying to be him? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I'm just asking a question. To be clear, the question is why are you -- TRUMP: Thank you very much. Sit down. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But you didn't answer my question. Just very simply, the question is why are you pitting Americans against one another, sir. TRUMP: I'm not. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, if it's unfair to the country and it's costing millions of dollars, why don't you just -- TRUMP: Give him the mic, please. I've answered the question. Go ahead, take -- thank you. I will give you voter suppression. You just have to sit down, please. Sit down. I didn't call you. I didn't call you. I didn't call you. Excuse me, I'm not responding to you. I'm talking to this gentleman. Will you please sit down? Excuse me. Excuse me. Would you please sit down? Please, go ahead. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you, Mr. President. Now that the House of Representatives -- TRUMP: Very hostile. It's such a hostile media. It's so sad. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining us now, Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union, Byron York, chief political correspondent at the "Washington Examiner," FOX News contributor, and Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent, host of "The Dan Bongino Show." Dan, I've got to start with you. Have the media learned anything about how Trump rolls and about why he connects with the American people after you saw that disgraceful performance today by the reporters in the briefing? DAN BONGINO, HOST, "THE DAN BONGINO SHOW": No, they've learned nothing, Laura. For four and a half years I've worked in the White House, and I'm old enough, Laura, to remember, and I'm sure you are as well, "The Daily Caller" reporter questioning Obama while he was making statements, and the media lost its mind, how disrespectful, how horrible it was. What you saw today was not a press conference. What you saw was an interrogation. And what they wanted was not answers. What they wanted was a confession. They came in there convinced Donald Trump was a fascist, a racist, and a xenophobe, and they wanted him to answer. That was the confession. But one last thing on this, Laura, too, because this is -- I don't know what's more embarrassing, Acosta and the press corps behavior, or Jim Acosta singlehandedly changing the conversation from the Democrats' House takeover to a conversation about Jim Acosta? Well done, Jim. Really nice job. You learned a lot of lessons from that. INGRAHAM: I've got to say, and Byron, I want to go to you on this. You are a working journalist every day, great columns. It seems like a lot of these reporters are really all about -- not me, them. The finger is always pointed back at them. Look at me, look at me, look at me, I'm having my moment, viral, viral, viral. It's so just unseemly. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing for the country. And I want to show this graphic. This is Americans saying the media have divided more than united since Trump took office. More to unite, media, 17 percent, more to divide with the media's role, 64 percent. That's political morning console pole. So who is more divisive here? BRYON YORK, CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT, "WASHINGTON EXAMINER": A poll came just before the midterms, and it did ask does President Trump do more to divide or unite, and 56 percent said that he did more to divide. But then they asked about the press, and they said 64 with the press. So they thought the press was more divisive. And I think today what we saw is a perfect example of that. They just went overboard on the adversarial thing. Chris Wallace, who has covered a lot of White Houses, called Jim Acosta's performance shameful and said he had embarrassed himself. And there comes a point when the president of the United States is the president of United States and you are the reporter standing there asking the question. You ask a question, you ask a follow-up, you try to persist. But you can't just keep doing -- INGRAHAM: When that Neil Munro from "The Daily Caller" asked that one tough question on immigration, it was one tough question he got throughout. They went nuts on him. YORK: They did. He was completely out of line. Obama was just speaking, and Munro got up and interrupted him and Obama was clearly stunned. INGRAHAM: Compared what they are doing now? YORK: Yes, but Neil Munro was really out of line in doing that and deserves some sort of censure. And perhaps that will happen in the Acosta case as well. MATT SCHLAPP, CONTRIBUTOR, "THE HILL": We have a censure. He's lost his hard pass to the White House. And there's no timeframe on that. I think that's the right decision. There does have to be some decorum. There is another piece here which is the media is trying -- they are supposed to be facilitating a give-and-take with the president, you know who for, the American people, so they can learn. Here You have a president who said in the last 24 hours, maybe sometimes I should look at my tone. He says today, Pelosi is in charge of the House, maybe I should work with her. And they turned that which is an important moment for our republic into this ridiculous charade of trying to shame Trump. What about that PBS question about nationalism equates to white nationalism? This has to stop. INGRAHAM: That whole nationalism thing -- my earring fell. Isn't that fun. The whole nationalism thing. Let me see if I can talk and put it in at the same time. The whole nationalism thing has been completely opposed. Yorum Hazony's piece on that, just totally exposed it. CNN did put out a statement today, tonight. This is what they said. "This president's ongoing attacks on the press have gone too far. They're not only dangerous, they're disturbingly un-American. While president Trump has made it clear he does not respect a free press, he has a sworn obligation to protect it. Jim Acosta, fellow journalists everywhere, we stand behind him united." Dan Bongino, again, this is the drumbeat. He's a tyrant, he's an autocrat. He's like Putin, Stalin, and Pol Pot combined. They been doing this from day one, Dan, and it does not resonate. I'm sorry, they don't learn. They should have asked the question, what's the first thing you're going to work on with Pelosi. How are you going to get it done? That's a tough question. How are you going to get it done after you've insulted her? I would ask that question. Go ahead, Dan. BONGINO: Laura, what we witnessed again was like an intergalactic cosmic disgrace. Americans who work for a living had to be horrified at what they saw if you had happened to witness that live today. You're right. There were so many good questions to ask. How do we feel about it, making permanent the middle-class tax cuts that Nancy Pelosi, by the way, complained about because they were not permanent, how about that? How about portions of our health care law, government interference that are upping the prices on them? How about shooting loans? How about the opioid prices? And as Mark Levin said earlier on Hannity's show, what answers did we get, Laura? Nothing. We got a question about, Mr. Trump, are you a racist? Mr. Trump, are you going to obstruct justice by firing Bob Mueller? How out of touch in the bubble dwellers can they be? INGRAHAM: Great point. You two, very quickly, Radio and Television Digital News Association says it condemns this obvious punitive action of the administration and call on it to restore Mr. Acosta's credentials immediately. Byron, the White House is not going to OK his credentials. YORK: I think the reason the White House gave, somehow Acosta had harmed the young woman -- INGRAHAM: Laid his hand on her. Look at the tape. YORK: Laid his hand on her. Listen, I don't think that's a very good reason. I think they could say they were doing it because he was disruptive at this event. But there's got to be some sort -- INGRAHAM: I disagree. If this had happened during Obama -- she's an intern. He's like wrestling over the microphone. What are you, 12? SCHLAPP: I don't think he tried to punch her, but she was clearly shaken. She was nervous. She's on national TV. She's probably a 20-years-old kid, and she was so nervous because he would not relinquish the microphone, and that was really the wrong thing. INGRAHAM: Panel, stay right there. We have a lot more to get to with you. Just a short time ago, Nancy Pelosi formally launched her bid to be the next speaker of the House. But will she be able to fend off the radical leftist heading to Washington? That's next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I was trying to hang onto the microphone so I could continue to ask the president questions. Obviously, I didn't put my hands on her or touch her as they are alleging, and it's just unfortunate that the White House is saying this. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's all we need to hear from him. CNN, by the way, tonight issued a statement saying basically that the president's revocation of the press pass was a threat to democracy. Byron York, a threat to democracy, because it was a melee in there. He might as well have just taking the podium from the president and done the press conference himself. Why doesn't he just do that, next time? YORK: If I remember correctly, this actually happened with Jim Acosta before during the transition. I think it was a news conference at Trump Tower, and Acosta treated it as if it were a one on one, as if there was nobody else sitting there, nobody else was going to ask questions. And you do not have a right to ask questions indefinitely of the president of the United States. You ask your question, you ask a follow-up, and it's over. INGRAHAM: We don't have to dwell on. But you just can't keep the microphone -- and these other reporters, like, covering for -- what are they calling him? That's unfair. That's unfair, but it's a clever pun. SCHLAPP: But let me tell you, he likes that microphone. INGRAHAM: He should have said I paid for that microphone. He should have done a Reagan. Let's now talk about Nancy Pelosi. We'll go to Bongino on this, because she was treated with kid gloves as you guys pointed out during the break. Dan, they are asking her, tell us how great all these new women are who got elected. It's like what's your favorite color kind of press conference with her. But she played it pretty nice and pretty down the middle today, a little different from Jerry Nadler who was absolutely on the Acela Express this morning rattling off all the investigations he's going to undertake according Mollie Hemingway's piece today. BONGINO: Yes, I read the Mollie Hemingway piece. I encourage everybody to do so be. Jerry Nadler gave an interview to an entire car on the Acela heading back to D.C. and was totally unaware of that. And let me tell you, Laura, I've done this before talking a little too loud outside of the quiet car, so I know what Jerry Nadler is going through. So this impeachment thing that Nadler allegedly said, that this was going to be a goal number one, think about this. You have upwards to 12 to 15 Democrats who just won on the kind of hopey-changey stuff in Republican leaning or swingy districts. How do you think that's going to go over when they have to get on the record on impeachment, for instance, Steve Russell's seat in Oklahoma City that they just won that's like R plus six? Good luck with that. I think they've got to dial that back, and Jerry Nadler needs -- INGRAHAM: And the polls are showing, Matt, we're almost out of time, the polls are showing that people don't want the impeachment stuff. SCHLAPP: No, they don't. And do you know who really gets that? Even Nancy Pelosi understands that. You saw the answer, she's like we're going to very careful and take these step-by-step. She's going kicking and screaming. She knows if they overplay their hand, they're going to lose all these seats they just picked up. YORK: Real quick, Russia was not an issue in the midterms. The Democrats didn't bring it up, and we saw a poll from the exit polls saying that 54 of the people believe the investigation was politically motivated. INGRAHAM: And immigration, number two issue in the state of Florida, immigration number two issue, only behind health care by three points. Interesting. Guys, fantastic. Great to have you on two panels. Loved it. Tonight's last bite is from a Republican woman in California making history, though you might have never heard of it. Certain firsts don't count, coming up. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. The mainstream media fawning over the more than 85 women elected to Congress last night. That is kind of a cool thing. But they are forgetting the Republican who is also making a first. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) YOUNG KIM, (R-CA) FIRST KOREAN-AMERICAN ELECTED TO Congress: As you know I am an immigrant from South Korea. So I have a unique perspective into what it means to be an -- to live an American dream. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I want to have her on. Maybe she'll come on tomorrow. Phenomenal. What a great story. Beautiful, well-spoken, an incredible first. Just selected to Congress in California's 39th district. And also, blue state, a red victory there. Congrats to her. That's all the time we have. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team, take it from here for us. Another fantastic show. Shannon? Load-Date: November 8, 2018 End of Document Crucial Midterm Election Is Tomorrow; Key Races Still Neck-And-Neck On Election Eve; President Trump Rallying GOP Voters Nationwide In Final Midterm Push; Thousands Of People Have Lined Up In Cape Girardeau, Missouri Just To See And Listen To President Trump's Speech, Some Even Stayed For More Than 12 Hours Under Pouring Rain; President Trump, Talking With Sean, He Said That He Wants To Build The Border Wall And He Wants To Improve More The Economy In The U.S.; Trump Also Said The Midterm Election Tomorrow Is A Tight Race But Is Optimistic That Republicans Will Still Win The House And The Senate Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 5, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8563 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro Guests: David Limbaugh, Sean Spicer, Dan Bongino, Matt Schlapp, Donald Trump Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Tucker, great show as always. Welcome to HANNITY. It is midterms. Hello, guys, how are we doing, all right? (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) HANNITY: Look at this! We are broadcasting live from Cape Girardeau, Missouri, where President Trump and radio legend Rush Limbaugh, this is his home, are set a take the state right behind me. And coming up, the president himself, he's going to join us for an exclusive live interview. Plus, we'll take Rush Limbaugh's speech as it happens. So, tonight, so much is at stake in a few short hours. Are you ready? A packed house. Americans, you have the power. You have the fate of all 435 House seats, 35 Senate seats and 36 gubernatorial elections. As we speak, the balance of power is literally up for grabs and in just a moment, we're going to break down all of the close races. We're also going to call out the mainstream media and their final negative over-the-top predictable push for all the Democratic allies and Democratic parties. And tonight, we have the highlights from the president's final message to you, we the people, as he's been pounding the campaign trail, crisscrossing all across the country. America, you have the power. Tomorrow you can shock the world again. It's time for our midterm elections breaking news, Cape Girardeau, Missouri, opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Two years ago, Americans from all over this country went to the polls. They cast their ballots for Donald J. Trump. Virtually all of the political pundits and analysts, so-called journalists, pollsters, they predicted a huge win for Hillary and they were all dead wrong. Americans, the voters, you shocked the world and ever since -- well, the Trump agenda has been paying massive dividends in just two short years. The economy is booming, 4.5 million new jobs, 4.3 million fewer Americans on food stamps. Four million Americans lifted out of poverty. On the manufacturing plant, Obama said these jobs -- they're never coming back -- 400,000 new jobs. Unemployment claims are at a 49-year low. In just two years, we are seeing record low unemployment for African- Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian-Americans, historic unemployment for women in the workplace. These are all records. And for military veterans and for youth unemployment; median household income is now hitting record highs, 4.2 percent GDP growth in the second quarter, 3.5 percent in the most recent quarter. And this all comes as President Trump slashed regulations, promises made, promises kept. It comes after he signed of the single biggest middle- class tax cut in American history. A promise made, a promise kept. He opened up American energy. Now, literally, we are in a path towards energy independence, green lighting the drilling at Anwar, the Dakota access pipeline, the Keystone pipeline, a promise made, a promise kept. Negotiating new trade deals in Europe, renegotiating NAFTA. Pulled us out of the job killing Paris Accord. Promises made, promises kept. In two short years, he's led with peace through strength abroad. He has pulled us out of the one-sided ridiculous insanity of the nuclear deal. We are no longer dropping cargo planes of cash on a tarmac for radical mullahs chant "Death to America." Addressing the looming crisis in North Korea, keeping their promise has so many other presidents made, he's the only one to keep this promise of moving the embassy in Jerusalem -- in Israel to Jerusalem. Promises made, promises kept. And despite being out of the office for two years -- this is the joke of all jokes -- watching Obama this weekend, Obama had the worst record of any president in modern history, which I will point out, he's now trying to take credit for Trump's success. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: When you hear all this talk about economic miracles right now, remember who started it. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) Remember who started it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Let's remind you, the voters, what his actual records is, because it's humiliating and it's embarrassing. Eight years of Obama, 13 million more Americans are on food stamps, 8 million more on poverty, the lowest labor participation rate since the '70s, the worst recovery since the '40s, the lowest home ownership rate in 51 years. Get this -- he was the only president in the U.S. history never to experience 3 percent GDP growth in a single year of his presidency. Oh, and the guy that claimed $9 trillion in debt, oh, that's irresponsible, and unpatriotic. In eight years of Obama, he took on more debt than every other president before him combined. That was two years ago. Today, President Trump has been making a final pitch to voters and an op-ed on FOX News. And the message is clear: If you want more safety and security and prosperity for the American people from all walks of life, this is about continuing the progress, voting Republican. The Democrats, we know, they have no plan to make your life better, safer, more prosperous. Eight years under Obama was a disaster. So instead, what have we been witnessing? Democrats have some pretty extreme ulterior motives. I've been sounding the alarm about this for months right here on this show. When Democrats tell you what their plans are, believe them. Maxine Waters, she keeps saying, "impeach 45, impeach 45", "reclaiming my time." And, by the way, her fellow Democrats keep saying, Maxine, just don't tell them. We'll do it but just don't tell them, keep quiet. Keep it a secret. Remember this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: I'm in this fight. I'm in this fight and I'm not going to move and, as you know, there is a difference in how some of our leadership talk about how we should handle all of this. They say, Maxine, please don't say impeachment anymore. And when they say that, I say, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment -- (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, that's coming from a congresswoman who will likely chair a very powerful house committee if the Democrats regain power. And by the way, she, Adam Shifty, the liar Schiff, oh, they're bragging about their plans to initiate endless House investigations into the so-called Russian collusion. We've had two years of this nonsense. The chair of the all-powerful Intel Committee, watch the liar, Shifty Schiff. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D-CA), RANKING MEMBER, INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: While the Republicans walked away from the investigation, the Democratic minority has continued. And we've been bringing witnesses an end we've been learning more. And that work won't stop when we take the majority but we will be able to get answers the Republicans were unwilling to pursue, records that the Republicans wouldn't ask for. The question, though, I don't know whether Mueller has been able to answer, because I don't know whether he has been a given license to look into it, is where the restaurants laundering money to the Trump organization. And that will be a very high priority to get an answer to, for the reason that if they were doing this, it's not only a crime, but it's something provable, something that the Russians could hold over the head of the president of United States. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: It never ends. It's the same -- it's like on a rewind. Never ends, a loop. Democrats, what do they want? They want unless investigation into a farce, but they don't want to investigate Hillary, the one that paid for phony Russian lies that led to, oh, lying to FISA court judges and committing obviously a fraud on the court. Oh, then leaking that information so they can get a special counsel. They don't care about that. They only care about, oh, if it's involved President Trump. They want to impeach, investigate the president. And if you want to vote for Democrats tomorrow, you're voting to raise your taxes. Remember, Nancy Pelosi, largest tax cut in American history, literally 90 percent of working Americans benefit and you saw what they were willing to do to Justice Kavanaugh. You want higher taxes? You want the lies said about a man that was literally smeared and slandered and besmirched with no due process, no presumption of innocence, they will block all judicial appointments. By the way, remember the great promise, keep your doctor, keep your plan, and pay less? What a lie. It's the biggest lie ever told by any one party. And now, they are literally trying to campaign on that lie. Oh, they want to preserve Obamacare forever. That's what's at stake tomorrow. They want to bring back the mandate tax that President Trump and the Republicans killed. They couldn't care less if your premiums continue to skyrocket. For them, it's about power. Look at the issue of immigration. They are told by the Center for American Progress, don't talk about it. Oh, change the topic. But we know what they want -- open borders, sanctuary cities, sanctuary state, to abolish ICE. And once again, they are hiding their agenda from the American people. Center for American Progress, the think tank of John Podesta, oh, just change the topic as quickly as you possibly can. And, by the way, Democrats, they are literally listening because their radical positions are so unpopular, they can't even run on what they truly believe. That's the modern Democratic Party. This is your choice tonight. Is this what you want? Because that's the agenda of Nancy Pelosi. That's the agenda of Chuck Schumer. You vote for any House Democrat, you are voting for Pelosi. You bought for any Senate Democrat, you are voting for Chuck Schumer. Everything at this hour tonight is up for grabs. But the good news is, you have the power. Tonight, we are working on three different scenarios, just so you know. Scenario one: Republicans maintain the majority in the House, gained seats in the Senate, and guess what? That is a huge win. Republicans, option number two: it's a split decision. That would be Republicans losing the House, gaining seats in the Senate. Worst-case scenario, which, you know, we'll let the fake news guys over their talk about, would be Republicans losing the House and Senate. That would mean Wednesday morning, you hear a Speaker-elect Pelosi, Senate Majority-elect Chuck Schumer. In the House, there is literally about 36 toss ups that will decide whether or not Nancy Pelosi gets that gavel back. Now, these are incredibly close, important races. Look at them on your screen. We also have on hannity.com, literally states like California, Minnesota, New York, New Jersey, Virginia, everywhere in between, all 435 seats matter. Historically, a sitting president almost always sees losses in the House. Look at this number. In 2010, the first midterm of Barack Hussein Obama, Democrats lost 63 seats. Oh, but he was elected two years later. 1994, Bill Clinton, Democrats lost 54 seats, and for the first time in 40 years, leading the way by Newt Gingrich, Republicans took back the House of Representatives. Both of them, Obama and Clinton, two years after those disasters midterms, went on to win reelection, two years later. Over in the Senate, we are watching a handful of very close races that will determine whether or not Chuck Schumer becomes the majority leader. Right now, where we are tonight in Missouri, we are right now, Republican Josh Hawley, who will join us, is polling well. He's up against liberal radical leftist incumbent Claire McCaskill, far left senator who is trying to convince the good people of Missouri that she is a moderate. We know that's not true. Don't forget, she voted against Kavanaugh, she voted against Neil Gorsuch, she voted against the tax cuts for the people of Missouri. Her campaign caught on tape literally supporting widespread gun restrictions and gun bans. But she's not telling the people of Missouri that. Arizona, I can't even believe we are talking about this race. Republican, American hero Martha McSally, multiple tours of duty, six in Iraq and Afghanistan, 28 years of service. While McSally was serving her country abroad, her opponent, radical leftist Democrat, Kyrsten Sinema organizing events with a radical since indicted lawyer for the blind sheikh leading antiwar protests in a pink tutu with a group of witches -- I'm not making that up. She was making the case for, oh, it's OK if Americans want to fight with Taliban. And asked this weekend, she stood by that stupidity. Those are our enemies. She called Arizonans crazy, the meth lab of democracy. But they are only crazy in a Lindsay Lohan way. We go to the state of Indiana, a toss up tonight between Mike Braun and Democratic incumbent. Well, for Schumer wannabe disciple Joe Donnelly. According to reports, not only has funded shadow efforts to find ads for the third- party libertarian in that race, he can't win without the libertarian in that race, dirty politics at its worst. And one more reminder, by the way, that a vote for a libertarian in Indiana is a vote for Donnelly and Schumer. In Montana, this is a state that is now in play. Republican Matt Rosendale gaining ground against Schumer Democratic incumbent Jon Tester. In the latest poll, Tester down by three. Fifty percent of the state voted, it will all depend on turnout tomorrow. Remember, people of Montana, Tester voted with Schumer 87 percent of the time. You might as well have Schumer. In Tennessee, a very important race. Republican Senate candidate Marsha Blackburn should win. If you are in Tennessee tonight, take nothing for granted, anything can happen. Nevada, races are always close. Republican Senator Dean Heller in a most- hold seat for the Republicans. Now, we're going to have an actual race in our hands in West Virginia. That's news tonight, between incumbent Democrat Joe Manchin, Republican Patrick Morrisey. And in Florida, let me just be blunt -- everything in Florida is as usual, too close to call. Democratic do-nothing Schumer Democrat Bill Nelson against the Florida Governor Rick Scott who has been there again and again for the people of Florida. In Florida, the gubernatorial race also so tight between Ron DeSantis and corrupt socialist -- by the way , wouldn't it be great if we could ay get from an FBI, you know, investigator, free tickets to "Hamilton," and free vacations like Gillum, the worst crime rate in all of Florida. Republicans -- by the way, you guys like Elton John? (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) Just checking. We need a massive turnout. It's all about turnout tomorrow. That's all it is. You get -- we'll get to the government we deserve. We are keeping our eyes also on a potential shocker, of all places, in New Jersey. Polls between corruption- plagued Democrat Bob Menendez, Republican Bob Hugin. Marine, Semper Fi Bob. Guess what? Closer than anybody predicted. And in the great state of Texas, Ted Cruz has and has maintained a steady lead against Bozo O'Rourke, even though this Democrat has literally almost gotten $100 million to throw at the greatest constitutionalist in the U.S. Senate. Texas, don't let somebody that doesn't have Texas values win Texas. Ted Cruz needs to be back in the U.S. Senate. Tomorrow's vote will be crucial. Democrats across the country benefited -- I'm looking right over there, all over there -- fake news by the mainstream media, the biggest donor to the Democratic Party, they speak with one voice at this point, and say the most hateful, disgusting, despicable, anti-Trump vitriol that this country, frankly, has ever seen. They have been worse than ever. And we've got the tape to prove it. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNDENTIFIED MALE: If Trump wins, he will cast it as a complete endorsement of his most un-Democratic behavior. If you are 18 and that happens, you stand a very real chance of not living in a Western-style democracy for part or all of your life. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He is a racist pig! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's talking about what white supremacist ideology. We are not on a slippery -- we're not on a dangerous slippery slope, we are falling. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you had a kid that had A's, B's on their report card, doing well with their trumpet lesson, but also happened to be selling meth out of the basement, you would say, hold on a second. I can't just talk about the good stuff, I've got a problem with this kid. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Racism, xenophobia, all these things that I thought were already stigmatized, but Donald Trump has brought them out of the closet, brought them out into the open. He's using them for his political advantage. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What Donald Trump did was normalized racism. He normalized racist -- overtly racist behavior. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: How despicable on "Saturday Night Live," one a so-called comedian making fun of Republican congressional candidate Dan Crenshaw -- oh, a hero who lost his eye while serving our great country as a Navy SEAL in Afghanistan. By the way, all of you on "Saturday Night Live" can go straight to hell, over this. You owe this man a profuse apology. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Dan Crenshaw. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, come on, man. Hold on. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You may be surprised to hear he's a congressional candidate from Texas, and not a hit man in a porno movie. I'm sorry, I know he lost his eye in war or whatever - (LAUGHTER) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: What jackasses. Honestly, that crossed the line, way beyond it. They owe him a massive apology. Dan Crenshaw, to his credit, is taking the high road. He's now demanding a phony apology, which is what it would be anyway. And tonight, he represents everything that's great about this country, everything great about the American people. We are here in Missouri and Cape Girardeau, the people that worked hard, play by the rules, pay their taxes, raise their kids, obey the laws, and frankly, get left behind by corrupt governments where politicians, they just want their power. Finally, government has been working for the forgotten men and women of this country. Like the left, by the way, you know what? He is not playing the politics of victimization. He won't give into the gutter level attacks of NBC. Are you proud of that, Tom Brokaw? Where is Tom Brokaw speaking out about this? Or is anyone a fake news conspiracy TV MSNBC? Are you going to vilify those disgusting remarks? You don't have the courage to speak out? And while Democrats call every conservative, as I told you, racist, sexist, xenophobic, misogynist, homophobic, Islamophobic, dirty air, dirty water, throw granny over the cliff and kill children, they do it every two years, every four years. You ask yourself, which side are you on? The side of the decorated, principled war heroes like Martha McSally and DNA Crenshaw? I know the people in Cape Girardeau are. Are you on the side of those who support tax cuts, lowering regulations, support what is now has been an economic boom we have not seen in over 10 years? If you want secure borders, you want a wall with a door and to demand that we respect our sovereignty, our borders, that people come in legally, you want to enter policies of sanctuary cities and sanctuary states, you believe in peace through strength, do you value due process, do you value the presumption of innocence, do you love our Constitution, our American values that made this country so great? The people that make this country great? Or do you support those on the left, do nothing but smear, slander, besmirch, name call, plot political revenge, obstruct the president's agenda, they have no plan to make your life better. They attempt day after day, hour after hour, to divide this country anyway they can. Today on multiple campaign stops, President Trump highlighted what is a clear choice and contrast between the parties and division for this future and he made his final pitch, which he will be making right after this show tonight to voters. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Everything we have created and achieved is at stake on Election Day, it is. If the radical Democrats take power, they will take a wrecking ball to our economy and to our future. (BOOS) The Democrat agenda is a socialist nightmare for our country. The Republican agenda is the American Dream, and that's what we're doing. We're bringing back the American Dream. They want to raise your taxes, the Democrats do, restore crippling regulation, shut down your new steel mills, take away your health care, and put illegal aliens before American citizens, that's what they want. (BOOS) Democrats are inviting caravan after caravan of illegal aliens to pour into our country, overwhelming your schools, your hospitals, and your communities. There's only one way to stop this Democrat-let assault on America's sovereignty. You have to vote Republican tomorrow. You have to. I am asking every citizen from every party, every background, and every race, color, and created, to reject the Democrat politics of anger and division, and to unite behind our proud and righteous destiny as Americans altogether. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: In just a few short hours, you have the power to shock the world again. By the way, just think of what is going to be like to watch the corrupt media if you do it again. They will lose their minds. We're in Cape Girardeau, Missouri. Judge Jeanine, David Limbaugh, his hometown, Rush's going to be on stage in a little while, and the president, he joined us for a one-on-one interview. It's election eve, we are in the great Show Me State. How are you all doing? (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) We are all having a good time? Look at this crowd, it is packed to the gills. Look at everybody. The president should be here shortly. They are revved up, ready to go, and I hope you are already to vote tomorrow. Quick break. We'll be back. Cape Girardeau. It's "Hannity." Stay with us. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: The greatest political movement of all time in this country. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And it's an incredible time in America. Jobs are soaring, wages are rising, poverty is plummeting, and more Americans are working today than ever before in the history of our nation. Tuesday is your chance to send a message to the Democrat mob and to everyone who has made it their mission to denigrate our movement and to divide our great nation. It's not going to happen. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. That was President Trump at his Ohio rally earlier today, making his closing arguments before what is a historic midterm election tomorrow. I hope you like the fact that you have the power. We're alive tonight. We're in Cape Girardeau, Missouri, big Senate race here. Josh Hawley is going to check in with us. By the way, the president is arriving. We're going to go backstage and see him in a minute. Joining us as now is author and attorney, he is Cape Girardeau's own, David Limbaugh. And, oh, perfect timing. "Sweet Child of Mine", right? And Judge Jeanine is here. How are you? Let's give it up. Look at this. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) HANNITY: All right. So, what are we going to see tomorrow? I mean, we know what the predictions are, as far as I'm concerned, polls are meaningless. JUDGE JEANINE PIRRO, "LIARS, LEAKERS, AND LIBERALS" AUTHOR: They are meaningless. Look, we are living in very unusual times, and you say the balance of power is at stake. It's razor-thin, unexpected turnout could change anything. There is no predictability here. Here's the bottom line, Sean, if you like the economy we're in, that's going through the roof. If you like the fact that you can get a job, that you're in a position where even if you have a job, they're going to give you a raise because they don't want to go somewhere else, this is what the America that you want. HANNITY: By the way, "Saturday Night Live" did a horrible job on you. (LAUGHTER) PIRRO: It's all right. HANNITY: By the way, what a bunch of jackasses what they did to that Navy SEAL American hero. PIRRO: Oh, terrible, terrible. HANNITY: I'm holding myself back. David, this is your hometown, you are a star in this town, your brother is a star in this town, your daughter is now a star in this town. DAVID LIMBAUGH, AUTHOR: You know, Judge Jeanine is exactly right. We face a stark choice. We have made so much progress in making America great again, restoring its prosperity and strength, and the Democrats talk about divisiveness, Sean. If they win, they go -- they're going to try to be divisiveness for the next two years with their investigation -- HANNITY: David, there is not one thing that I hear them say that is going to improve the lives of people in Cape Girardeau or anywhere. LIMBAUGH: Nothing can stop it. HANNITY: Nothing. LIMBAUGH: It's all about slandering Trump. They say he is a threat to democracy but they still haven't accepted the public's will in electing him. HANNITY: Yes. PIRRO: And you know what? This is a man who was relentless in his promise keeping. You know, as you look around here, promises made and promises kept. He moved, he moved the embassy to Jerusalem. And the economy, the strongest economic growth in history. Everything is better. This is the America that we want and people need to understand that if they don't go out and it is not happening. HANNITY: So, this is what's happening. Let me describe the scene here if I can to everybody. PIRRO: Just wild. HANNITY: They are like, firing out hats and T-shirts. I mean, this is literally like a rock concert. And the funny thing is, it was pouring rain. I went out and met a lot of people before the show, David. They were soaking wet hot, they were out there since this morning and the crowd outside is bigger than the one inside, about 10,000 people. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, when this was first scheduled to happen, some 60,000 people applied for 7,500 seats. HANNITY: It's crazy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's probably more than that. People are excited. I agree with the judge, they are, we are going to take this. There's not going to be any blue wave, there's not going to be even be a blue puddle. We're going to win this thing. HANNITY: You know, the bottom line is, this is where people have to understand what they do tomorrow matters. It's all about turnout. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is. HANNITY: And you know what? If you want the country to won, get your ass out and vote. PIRRO: Absolutely. And you know what, these are the people of America not the right and the left, that these are the real people who are out here at four in the morning some of them. HANNITY: The people that work hard, play by the rules, pay their taxes. PIRRO: That's right. HANNITY: Obey the law, raise their kids. The irredeemable deplorables. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. HANNITY: That cling to their gods, guns and religions, those people, David. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: By the way, we're still here. This is still America. We don't threaten their freedom, they do threaten our freedom. HANNITY: By the way, how funny was it, boxing Obama, no, no, you didn't feel that. I feel that. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: That was great. Yes. HANNITY: All right. Are you all having a good time? What a crowd. We'll come back. When we come back, the president of the United States from Cape Girardeau. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Republicans have created the best economy, this is the single best economy in the history of our great country. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And it's the hottest jobs market on planet earth. But everything we have achieved is at stake tomorrow. Everything. Because they can take it apart just as fast as we built it. But I don't think that's going to happen based on what I'm saying all over. (APPLAUSE) HANNITY: We are in Cape Girardeau, Missouri. Missouri is obviously a very important state. Josh Hawley going up against liberal Democrat senator, kind of Chuck Schumer, like Democrat and that's Claire McCaskill. And when the president gets here, we'll go right to him. But in the meantime, we're joined by Sean Spicer, Dan Bongino, and Matt Schlapp. It's a little quieter in here, good to see you guys. Sean, you were there and you were on the road with the president the whole time. In 2016. I look at these crowds, I was out a lot on the road then too, it seems almost identical. Polls were polls but the only poll that matters is tomorrow. SEAN SPICER, FORMER UNITED STATES WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: That's absolutely right. I mean, look, Sean, everybody is leaving everything on the field. This president went all out on 2016. As we remember he ran through the tape the day before the election he was out there in Michigan, in Wisconsin, doing everything he could rallying every single person, every single vote. He's doing the same to keep a Republican majority, the same people that brought him to the White House he wants to make sure return to Congress. So, he's out there flipping these states red. I think Josh Hawley is going to do it, and I think that we are going to have Mike Braun from Indiana, Patrick Morrissey from West Virginia. Look, everybody has left evrything on the field. The president is doing everything he can. The reason we're competitive in the Senate, normally a president out of power loses up to five seats. The reason there is no blue wave in the Senate states, then the Senate, is because this president has gotten involved and left it on the field. The RNC has left it on the field, America first has left it on the field. We have made this competitive because this president is engaging like never before. We will pick up seats in the Senate which is unprecedented because this president inserted himself. We will keep the House competitive because of this president and the results that he's getting. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know, this is the amazing thing. SPICER: So, despite the blue wave, we are getting it done. HANNITY: You know, Matt, I will go to you, and this is amazing thing. You know, two of the worst midterm losses, well that happened in 1994. Republicans took control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years with Newt Gingrich. MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: Right. HANNITY: Fifty-four seats, 64 seats in wow with Obama in 2010. And like, I'm listening to these idiots in the media, if something happens it's all Trump, this is unprecedented. It's not, it's actually he's facing the headwinds and really looking good in the Senate, but again, it's all going to come down to turn out. It always does in a midterm election. SCHLAPP: You know, sometimes, Sean, it's not looking at the head-to-head polls but it's looking at the other dynamics. And when you have those other big waves in the past, you just brought up two red waves. I remember the one in 1994, it's one of the reasons I'm in Washington, D.C., but that was when Republican enthusiasm was very, very high. And liberals and the Democrats, you know, they were discouraged. And there was asymmetry between the parties and coalitions on their enthusiasm. What happened after the Kavanaugh hearing and because of the president's relentless campaigning is our sides enthusiasm now equates to their side's enthusiasm. You know hash tag resistance is passionate. They hate this president and they want to do everything they can to search and destroy anybody who supports him. But what's happen in the meantime is the battles have been joined. For that reason, there cannot be any blue wave. I agree with Sean. We're actually going to have a historic night in the Senate, and I think because of what the president has done, you know, we are very competitive in the House. We can hold on to this majority in the House. I think it's a coin flip. And it will, if it comes out the one thing, Sean, does the Trump voter in 2016 vote tomorrow? HANNITY: You know, well, that's the most important thing and it always comes down to turnout in these midterm elections. You know, you look at it, and it's tight, Dan Bongino. It was funny, because if you follow Nate Silver, one of the 5, 30, he thought it was almost like an 80 percent chance. DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: Right. HANNITY: Trump is going to lose in 2016. Now he's saying on 87 percent chance that the Democrats take the House, 15 percent chance that they take the Senate. It's all about them. But then he writes this piece today like, well, it could be between 15 and 50, I mean, which is like the biggest CYA. And I'm kind of laughing. And I don't know-- BONGINO: Right. HANNITY: I don't know, we'll find out a lot more by the end of tomorrow night and early on Wednesday morning whether or not polls in the era of trump mean anything. BONGINO: Yes. That was a bold prediction by Nate Silver. They can pick up anywhere from zero to 435 seats. HANNITY: yes. BONGINO: That's a great job, Nate. You really pin that down for us. HANNITY: That's really going on a-- (CROSSTALK) BONGINO: Sean, there are two things -- two things, though. I want people to pay attention to why I think I agree with Matt. There's a good possibility we hold the House. I think we definitely pan our lead in the Senate. A couple of things. Number one is, the Democrats have largely self- selected and live in big cities where they rack up winds of, you know, 90 to 10 percent. But that doesn't matter, whether you win 51, 49, or 90, 10, it doesn't matter. HANNITY: Right. BONGINO: So, these swinging suburb districts what are the chances of us losing them all? I don't think they are very good, I think we're actually going to perform pretty well, because a lot of suburban working families are tired of being called Russian bots and racist for the last year. So they're tired of it. But secondly, Rasmussen had a great article out today, Sean. And they said Republicans are far less likely to tell pollsters who they vote for by the marking of -- by margin of like 20 percentage points over Democrats. I think there is a big under vote, I think there is a damn good chance we hold the House. HANNITY: You know, it's very interesting. Matt Towery is a friend of mine a longtime pollster out of Georgia. He is saying, this is very different environment, and they're not even polling, you know, landlines anymore. There's an over percentage oversampling at Democrats, oversampling of young people. You know, 2004 the exit polls, Sean Spicer, John Kerry was the president. Two years ago, when the exit polls came out at 5.15 Eastern Time, and looked at it, Donald Trump had lost Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin and he won them all. And that was the day of the election. The media is giddy because they are reading this information, thinking its gospel truth, and it's not. SPICER: That's absolutely right. I mean, I talked about this in my podcast today. That there are -- that the lessons from -- no one learned the lessons of 2016. If you look at the intensity of the president's rally, the number of people that are coming out, they are waiting in line for hours on end just to hear him speak. These are people that understand what's at stake, I think that intensity. The idea that people are getting on these calls that pollsters are making and standing on there for 25 or 30 minutes going through a litany of questions, they are not being represented in what you are seeing. And I think tomorrow night we are going to see that come through again where you're going to see pick up in the seats in the Senate which defies the logic of a blue wave and then I think we're going to keep the house. HANNITY: Yes. SPICER: It may not be pretty, it may not be decided tomorrow night. But I think for all of the talk, and you see a lot of folks in the media now backing off their predictions saying that they never actually believe that it was a blue wave. But the reality is that for all of these folks who doubled down, that it had to be against Trump. If it wasn't for Trump, we wouldn't be in the game that we are now. This is the problem. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We have 11 cities-- SPICER: They want to make this against him but the reality is, the only reason we're in the game historically is because he's so invested in maintaining a House and Senate majority. HANNITY: The people also need to know California, in southern California there are five districts or six districts that matter the most-- SCHLAPP: Right. HANNITY: -- in terms of tipping the balance of power. Minnesota plays a big role. Michigan. Illinois. New York and New Jersey. All 435 seats in play. All right, when we come back, he's in the building, the president of the United States will join us right here from Cape Girardeau, Missouri. It is our election eve edition of Hannity. HANNITY: All right. Welcome back to Hannity. We are in cape Girardeau, Missouri as you can see, we have a massive crowd outside. The president now apparently walking in the building. He is going to stop by here before he has a big rally in cape Girardeau, the home of radio legend, Rush Limbaugh. He will be introducing the president tonight. We go back out into the crowd where our very own Jeanine Pirro is standing by. You know, judge, we've done a lot of broadcast together, and you know, literally for like an hour before the broadcast I don't think I sweat this much because we were out there having fun, throwing footballs, signing hats, taking pictures. It's almost like rock concert atmosphere without a guitar and without a band. You've been to a lot of these events-- (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: You know what, Sean-- HANNITY: -- and for a midterm it's a phenomenon to watch this like night after night and more people outside in a pouring rain for 10 hours today. PIRRO: You know, Sean, that is exactly the point. Because as I'm out here listening to everyone, you realize these people are so psyched. We have never seen more people vote before the midterm election as early as they were voting now. The energy in this crowd is unbelievable. I've talked to people who have been here for 12 hours already. And it doesn't matter, these are good hardworking Americans who know what they want, who know that Donald Trump has made a difference for them. They are willing to stake their day and their night out on it in the rain and in the cold and they are psyched. And if this is any reflection of what's going on in this country, and as you and I know, I think it is, and it may be a good day but it is, as you have said, it's going to be razor-thin. HANNITY: I will tell you, Florida is too close to call. Tennessee is looking good with Marsha Blackburn. You can't take it for granted. This race in Missouri with Josh Hawley is crucial to whether or not the Republicans have a successful night in terms of keeping the Senate. The same with Indiana. Joe Donnelly -- if the libertarian wasn't in that race, they would -- he would lose by 10 points. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: I'm hoping people understand that that's splitting the vote. Then you go to Jon Tester, all of a sudden now, wow, the libertarian polls out, now his opponent is now up by three. And then of course, Nevada. Always a close state but Dean Heller is holding onto a slim lead. The only think that's surprising me is the mixed polls in Arizona. Here we up. Kyrsten Sinema who said it's OK to battle with the Taliban that Arizonans are crazy in a Lindsay Lohan way and it's the meth lab of democracy, and I'm thinking, how does she even -- how does she even register in a state as patriotic as Arizona? PIRRO: As Arizona. I agree with you. And you know what, Sean, as you talk about this, I think what people need to remember is that Donald Trump. President Donald Trump and the people on the right have been called every name in the book. All of us, you and me. Deplorable, horrible people. Vulgarities. This is what people need to remember. If you want to see Maxine Waters, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi for the next two years in your face, then don't go out and vote. But if you want to continue with this winning streak that Donald Trump and winning with an economy that's through the roof, we don't have a choice. It's clear. You have to get out and you got to vote. And you could feel the energy here, by the way, Sean. It's really, it's palpable right now, he's got to be close. HANNITY: Yes. Well, he is actually, he's working his way back here but it's hard to get back here where we are. And I hope he can get out here before the show. Now it's interesting too, is this is the home of Rush Limbaugh. Radio icon, 30 years, he has changed the name dynamics in terms of media in a way that -- you know, Mary Matlin once said, I don't know what the country would be like if we didn't have Rush on the air for 30 years. now Fox has been on the air for -- I begin my 23rd year here and it's pretty amazing. You know, what difference considering all the media slants one way. (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: Well, you know what, Sean. Right. And Sean, if it weren't for people like you and Fox, and Rush Limbaugh, I mean, the mainstream media would be controlling our thoughts and what we say and how we say it. Thank God for people like Rush who come out and who say things that make sense to everyday working people. That fight the other side, that make it clear that the left isn't always on the side of these people who really want to pay their dues and simply want to live free and take care of their family. So, if it weren't for people like that, then we wouldn't have the opportunity that we have right now to recognize the successes that-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But you -- all right, I got to -- Judge Jeanine, I hate to do this, but when the president of the United States walks in -- this is yours, sir. How are you. TRUMP: I'm very good. HANNITY: You're not even tired, are you? TRUMP: I'm not that tired. I'm excited because we had an incredible day today in Ohio. HANNITY: Yes. TRUMP: We had an incredible time in Indiana and now we are with you. HANNITY: You left nothing on the field, 11 stops and 11 cities and-- (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: No, but I feel guilty about interrupting Judge Jeanine. I don't -- I don't like doing that. HANNITY: She'll give you an earful about it probably soon. The closing argument seemed to be the same. I started my show tonight, and I said, this is where two years ago. This is the record of Obama-- (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: Right. HANNITY: By the way, the biggest joke I saw this weekend is him saying, a guy that said, you didn't build that, I started this. And I'm like, no. TRUMP: No, it's a joke, it is. Frankly if their agenda kept going, meaning if the other side had won, we would have been down 4.2 or six or seven, we were going down. It was very bad when I took it over, and if we didn't open it up and cut regulations the whole Obama thing would have collapsed that would have been a disaster. HANNITY: Four point five million jobs in less than two years. TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: And 4.3 million Americans off of food stamps, four million Americans out of poverty. A path towards energy independence. You spent 3.5 billion on the border wall, and I know you are disappointed. You want the rest. TRUMP: Well, I wanted to build at one time and you need it and you see it but now we have the incredible military forces out there, and they are putting up barbed wire fences. We have a barbed wire wall. You see what they are doing highest level. And we are making a very strong. We're making it very -- you know, the whole thing in terms of military, plus the back wall and plus the barbed wire, plus we have a lot of digging going on, a lot of trenching. And people aren't going to come into our country without going through the legal process. You can't do that, otherwise, you have no country. HANNITY: We keep saying it, we want you to come, just come legally. TRUMP: The whole plan of the Democrats, I got 700 billion, 700 million for the military. The next year e got 716, we've totally rebuilt our military. But they fight like you have never seem to make sure we don't build the wall. And I got 1.6 billion, another 1.6 billion and a third 1.6 billion, I'm building it in nice large pieces but I'd like to build it all at one time. Their whole plan is to try and make sure that we don't build the wall. That's the whole thing. The number is peanuts compared to what we did with the military. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Did you see the study last week, $70,000 per illegal immigrant in this country that we pay. TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: That's, you know, that's education and health care. TRUMP: Sean, we lose -- we lose $100 billion a year on illegal immigration. We lose that in one year. If you spent the money to build the wall, that's just a tiny fraction of one year and we're going to build it. But that's not -- we are very strong now. We have the worst laws anywhere in the country, catch and release, visa lottery, all of these laws here are disaster. We have the worse laws, we got to get them changed. The Democrats won't give us any votes. We need Democrat votes. You can't. We don't enough Republicans unless we elect a lot of Republicans tomorrow. But I will say that we are doing really well on illegal immigration, considering that we have the worst laws we have ever seen. We are moving thousands of MS-13 out of the country, they are being put into jails and they are being sent out of the country. And frankly, in a lot of ways I like out of the country put more because putting them into jail, let them solve it. But we've moved thousands of MS-13 gang members, we moved them out of the country. HANNITY: We have close races in Florida. TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: You were down I was watching you last night in Florida. Indiana, you take the libertarian out and Joe Donnelly loses by 10. Montana now you have the Republican Rosendale up by three. TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: You have in this state, Josh Hawley up by three. You have in Nevada, Dean Heller holding on by three or four. TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: Arizona, I don't know how a woman that supports, you know, Americans fighting with the Taliban even gets 5 percent of the vote but it's apparently a little tight race with Martha McSally, a war hero. TRUMP: I think Martha is great. She is a hero. She flies, she was one of the best fighter pilots, I mean, she was really good. I spoke to some of the people that went with her and were with her and said she's tremendous as a pilot. I don't know how she could possibly lose the other one with, that she's terrible. HANNITY: Yes. TRUMP: You talk about border walls, the other one doesn't want any border walls. She doesn't want any protection. Nothing. But I think Martha is going to do well and I think North Dakota is going to do well. Florida is a very, very close race and it's inconceivable because Bill Nelson-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's always close in Florida. It wasn't that close for you though, you did OK in Florida. TRUMP: No. We did great. But Bill Nelson is a terrible senator. HANNITY: He have never -- it was funny. (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: He never called me. HANNITY: You've given a speech the other night, you said. I've never talked to him and they took credit. TRUMP: He's never once, he's never once called me saying, can I have something for the people of Florida. Never once -- two years, almost two years, whereas, I must say, Rick Scott, that's all he does is call. HANNITY: Rolls up his sleeve -- sleeves. (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: He wants things. Look at the great job he did with the hurricanes, I mean, he did a fantastic job. Lake Okeechobee, they had a big problem, he's taking care of Lake Okeechobee. But Bill Nelson, the current senator never calls. So, hopefully for the good of the people of Florida, and also, I have to say. Ron DeSantis has to be governor. You can't let a man that-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Forty percent. TRUMP: -- a man ran Tallahassee into the ground. Highest murder rate they've ever had, corrupt crime ridden. It's a -- you can't let him be the governor of Florida, that would be a disaster. Ron DeSantis, Harvard and Yale, a good guy. Hard worker and I think he is going to be a great governor but it's a very close race. HANNITY: You want to make a closing argument. You know what's interesting, because I watch the media. They are trying to define this as a Trump midterm. They kind of forgot the-- (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: Unless we win, in which case they'll go. HANNITY: Then they go back to Russia. They'll go back to you. (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: They'll go back to Russia. HANNITY: They'll go back to Russia. It was funny. Bill Clinton lost about 54 seats in the House. Obama lost 60- some seats in the House. I love how Nate Silver who said you had a 20 percent of winning on the day of the election, you know, predicting 85 percent chance, but then you read the article, it says, they could be anywhere between 15 and 16. I could predict 15 and 16. I don't have to do any, you know, polls to find that out. It's the American people that decided it's getting out in midterms -- TRUMP: There is something going on there Sean. I leave Ohio, thousands and thousands of people cannot get into this massive arena. I just left Indiana. Thousands and thousands of people outside can't get -- there's something going on. There is an electricity that feels like 2016. HANNITY: Mr. President, on the way in here it was pouring all day here for hours. I went out for an hour. I'm actually sweating more than ever, almost like Marco Rubio that day. And I like Marco, don't misunderstand me, but I went out there and hour before the show and the crown is electric. Every hat I signed, it wasn't a "Hannity" hat. I wish I had penny for every one of the Make America Great hats I signed today, but every hat was soaking wet. There is a bigger crowd outside then there is inside. TRUMP: True. HANNITY: What do you want to say to the Americans -- we have about 30 more seconds -- am I right on the -- TRUMP: Well, I'm just -- HANNITY: I have 90 seconds, OK. TRUMP: I'm just honored because no matter where I go, it's the same way. It's not like just in Ohio or just in Indiana or just right here in Missouri. I'm so honored by it. There is something going on and it reminds me of two years ago when I knew something was going on and you knew it by the way and people that were with us knew it. They were looking at each other. I remember, I will never forget, two sort of anti-reporters were looking at each other as I was making a speech with 32,000 people and they were going around, look, that was a great time and I think this going to be a great time. HANNITY: Election day, I actually called you. I said you are going to get bad news at about 5:30 or 5:15 that afternoon. You lost Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. And you won them all. Polls don't mean anything. What really matters is tomorrow. TRUMP: I lost them -- I lost them based on the fake news. HANNITY: Fake news. TRUMP: But about two hours later, when they counted the actual votes, we won very easily. HANNITY: The home of Rush Limbaugh. TRUMP: Yes, great man. HANNITY: And Cape Girardeau is hometown for you. Mr. President, good luck. TRUMP: Thank you very much. HANNITY: You put it all -- you left it all on the field and that's the way it should be. TRUMP: Well, we did. We did. And I think going to be interesting -- HANNITY: You missed my opening monologue tonight. TRUMP: I did -- no, I saw it on the plane. I actually saw it on the plane. I never miss your opening monologue. I would never do that. HANNITY: Mr. President, good luck. TRUMP: Thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. HANNITY: Good to be with you. Thank you for being with us. We appreciate it. All right, we are out of time. Let not your heard be troubled. The news continues. Laura Ingraham is standing by. Load-Date: November 6, 2018 End of Document The Agenda Of President Trump Will Be Tested In Tomorrow's Election; President Trump Holds Rally in Missouri; Rush Limbaugh Joins President Trump In Missouri Rally; Keeping The GOP Majority And Trump Putting Work In For His Base For The Midterms Election; Interview With Georgia Gubernatorial Candidate Brian Kemp; Pollsters Analyze Likely Midterm Election Outcomes; Celebrities Hold Telethon to Encourage Voting Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 5, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8079 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Ed Henry, Monica Crowley, Chris Hahn, David Bossie, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Brian Kemp, Tom Bevan, John McLaughlin Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: But then you read the article that says, they could be anywhere between 15 and 60. I could predict 15 and 60. I don't have to do any, you know, polls to find that out. It's the American people that decided it's getting out in midterms -- DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There is something going on there Sean. I leave Ohio, thousands and thousands of people cannot get into this massive arena. I just left Indiana. Thousands and thousands of people outside can't get -- there's something going on. There is an electricity that feels like 2016. HANNITY: Mr. President, on the way in here it was pouring all day here for hours. I went out for an hour. I'm actually sweating more than ever, almost like Marco Rubio that day. And I like Marco, don't misunderstand me, but I went out there and hour before the show and the crown is electric. Every hat I signed, it wasn't a HANNITY hat. I wish I had penny for every one of the Make America Great hats I signed today, but every hat was soaking wet. There is a bigger crowd outside then there is inside. TRUMP: True. HANNITY: What do you want to say to the Americans -- we have about 30 more seconds -- am I right on the -- TRUMP: Well, I'm just -- HANNITY: I have 90 seconds, OK. TRUMP: I'm just honored because no matter where I go, it's the same way. It's not like just in Ohio or just in Indiana or just right here in Missouri. I'm so honored by it. There is something going on and it reminds me of two years ago when I knew something was going on and you knew it by the way and people that were with us knew it. They were looking at each other. I remember, I will never forget, two sort of anti-reporters were looking at each other as I was making a speech with 32,000 people and they were going around, look, that was a great time and I think this going to be a great time. HANNITY: Election day, I actually called you. I said you are going to get bad news at about 5:30 or 5:15 that afternoon. You lost Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. And you won them all. Polls don't mean anything. What really matters is tomorrow. TRUMP: I lost them -- I lost them based on the fake news. HANNITY: Fake news. TRUMP: But about two hours later, when they counted the actual votes, we won very easily. HANNITY: The home of Rush Limbaugh. TRUMP: Yes, great man. HANNITY: And Cape Girardeau is hometown for you. Mr. President, good luck. TRUMP: Thank you very much. HANNITY: You put it all -- you left it all on the field and that's the way it should be. TRUMP: Well, we did. We did. And I think going to be interesting -- HANNITY: You missed my opening monologue tonight. TRUMP: I did -- no, I saw it on the plane. I actually saw it on the plane. I never miss your opening monologue. I would never do that. HANNITY: Mr. President, good luck. TRUMP: Thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. HANNITY: Good to be with you. Thank you for being with us. We appreciate it. All right, we are out of time. Let not your heard be trouble. The news continues. Laura Ingraham is standing by. Laura, how are you? Do you want to say hi to the president? LAURA INGRAHAM: Hi, Mr. President. TRUMP: Hi Laura. INGRAHAM: Are you going to close this or what? TRUMP: She is really -- you are doing some job. So very proud of her. HANNITY: She's laughing. Why do you always get the compliments all the time? You got the interview last week. You got the compliments. INGRAHAM: Oh my god. HANNITY: And, you know, here I am -- I'm soaking wet. INGRAHAM: I do not know who is more competitive, you or the president. It's a tie, OK. The two of the most competitive people ever. HANNITY: (Inaudible). I'm competitive. INGRAHAM: Oh my gosh. HANNITY: I will say this. I think everybody has met their match. I don't think anyone has your energy level. You'd love this. You really love this. TRUMP: Well, I love what we are doing for the country. I love what we are doing for the people. It's turned around. We are rebuilding our military. Our vets now have Veteran's Choice which they've never had -- 44 years they were trying to get it. We are just doing a good job. And we have the strongest economy we've ever had in the history of our country and you know that. HANNITY: I went through every record. One question you want me to ask the president on your behalf, Laura? Go ahead. INGRAHAM: Mr. President, the American people are I think desperate for calm and unity. What message tonight are you going to give them as we move forward looking to the horizon of the future in this country? HANNITY: American people looking for calm and unity. It is a divided country in many ways, what message do you have for America? TRUMP: Well, I think success will do that. I think we have to get over this election, see how it comes out. It will be an interesting time, but I think, you know, I really think we have to do that first. I think success is going to do -- we are having the most successful time financially, economically, that we've ever had. I think that's going to bring a lot of people together. It's going to start. HANNITY: OK, Mr. President, thank you. TRUMP: Thank you very much. HANNITY: Laura, have a great show. It's great to see Missouri. My final word to everybody is go vote. Go shock the world. Do it again. Just imagine the payoff when you look at the media's face tomorrow, they will crack up. It will be -- that will be worth the price of admission. Have a great night. Thank you all for being with us. INGRAHAM: Hannity, great show. Thanks so much. I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE live from New York City tonight with special election eve show and insight. We're going to take you live to Georgia where the race for governor is getting very dirty, charges of racism and accusation of voter hacking. This race kind of has it all. And Republican gubernatorial candidate Brian Kemp joins us later on the show. Plus, Congress' balance of power could flip tomorrow night. Ed Henry breaks down the key midterm races. And coming up, we will take you live to the Trump rally there in Missouri. He and Rush Limbaugh will hit the stage in just moments. But first, protecting your future, preserving America, that's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. All right, election day, can you believe it's finally upon us? So, it's important to focus on what we know to be true about the choice that millions of you will make tomorrow. While we often hear that all politics is local, there is just no getting away from the fact that Trump's policies are on the ballot. And that should mean Republicans should do very, very well tomorrow night. And whether or not you applaud the president's tweets or his tone, there is no debating that his policies have been reaping huge benefits for the American people. The U.S. added 250,000 jobs in October, blowing away the 180 that were predicted. Unemployment, another record low at 3.7 percent. Wages were up a robust 3.1 percent -- that's music to my ears. As for those manufacturing jobs, you know those things that Obama said were never coming back. Well, they are and with a vengeance. Even the most left leaning "PolitiFact" hd to admit this. Well, then there is trade. Remember when Obama promised to renegotiate NAFTA? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I would immediately call the president of Mexico and the president of Canada to try to amend NAFTA. We have got to make sure that our agreements are good for everybody because globalization right now is creating winners and losers. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That sounded really good. Unfortunately, it never happened under Obama. Well here's the difference, Trump promised and Trump delivered. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We have negotiated this new agreement based on the principle of fairness and reciprocity. To me, it's the most important word in trade because we've been treated so unfairly by so many nations all over the world that we are changing that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What about consumer confidence? It hasn't been this high since January 2001. And according to "The Washington Post" survey, 86 percent of Americans say they are doing well, as well, or better financially. Seventy- one percent say the economy is good or excellent, that's up from 60 percent in August. And Americans feel better about their future. More money in their pockets. Less job insecurity. And on judges, the president has hit home run after home run with the help of course of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Judiciary Committee Chair Chuck Grassley. He's had two stellar Supreme Court justices confirmed and the 29 circuit court judges with many more to come. This may indeed be his most important legacy item. On immigration, well, the president has been hobbled by Congress. Remember when he offered Democrats a compromise that included legal status for 2 million last February? They rejected his offer. Referring instead to, well, politics as usual, because they preferred to keep the political issue alive. As for the waves of migrants making their way towards the United States? The president is 100 percent correct. We must take a firm stance and we must call on the military. He did that. But the Democrats say, don't worry. Be happy. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are, you know, hundreds if not thousands of miles away. DON LEMON, CNN HOST: People he called invaders even though they were a thousand miles away. OBAMA: Suddenly, it's this group of folks -- we don't even know where they are. They are way down there. That's the biggest thing. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: You notice how they are always at thousand miles away? They never move. They're just in that same spot. Come on, Democrats prefer that we do nothing and then we wait for a full blown crisis to appear at our border. And then they will make emotive arguments to just waive everyone in, hoping to welcome thousands of undocumented Democrats into the country. Here is Trump's midterm report card as I see it, my friends. Job creation, he gets A. Trade negotiations, A-, we still have work to do with China. Public confidence and optimism, definitely an A. Healthcare, B-, still got a lot of work to do there and communications issues. Judges, A. Immigration, B+. Well, folks aren't voting over foreign policy but it is worth noting that the president has not gotten us into any stupid wars so young people should love that. The only thing better would be for us to get out of Afghanistan after 17 long years. So, now, what are the Democrats offering as an alternative to the Republican prosperity agenda? Well, cliches. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. BEN CARDIN (D), MARYLAND: The Democrats want to embrace the principles of our values. REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA: My optimism springs from the courage, the purpose of our candidates running that are spectacular and they know their why. SEN. MARK WARNER (D), VIRGINIA: Even folks who may agree that the economy is going pretty good, I think many, many people will realize we need a check on this president. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, then they dangle the prospect of a bunch of free stuff. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I), VERMONT: I believe in Medicare for all single- payer system. STACEY ABRAMS, DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, GEORGIA: There certainly should be an ongoing review of what Medicare for all can do VAN JONES, CNN HOST: Medicare for all, free college tuition. How do you pay for something these other priorities that you've been talking about. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don't have to pay more to do better. Sometimes you got to do better to do better. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK. Then they're going to roll back immigration enforcement. (END VIDEO CLIP) ALEXNDRIA OCASIO-CORTEX (D), NEW YORK CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE: We can replace it and we can replace it with a humane agency. SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: We should protect families that need our help and that is not what ICE is doing today and that's why I believe you should get rid of it, start over, re-imagine it, and build something that actually works. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: I think there is no question we got to critically re-examine ICE and its role and the way that it is being administered and the work it is doing and when need to probably think about starting from scratch. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Then they are going to sell us out to the big weed lobby and, well, not just big weed, other drugs. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OCASIO-CORTEZ: I believe in the free legalization of marijuana. I do think that we can explore when it comes to other substances. I think that we need to loosen regulations to allow them to be studied more for medical purposes. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I mean, come on, Fentanyl, that has a lot of good uses, right. And though it won't power the American voters, well, they will move to impeach the president. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (R), CALIFORNIA: Please don't say impeachment anymore. And when they say that, I say impeachment, impeachment, impeachment. REP. AL GREEN (D), TEXAS: I rise today, Mr. Speaker, to call for the impeachment of the president of the United States of America. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: All right, is that what we really want? Well, of course not. But let's check in with what Rush Limbaugh is saying in Cape Girardeau. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) RUSH LIMBAUGH, AMERICAN TALK SHOW HOST: I am so hoping that in a few short minutes, you start chanting something else. Maybe you'll -- I was just -- I was just talking to people backstage and somebody said that the president and all of us have been labeled by some Democrats in the media divisive. Divisive?! The Democrats haven't even accepted they lost the election in 2016. That's what this is all about. It is serious stuff. All of this. I mean, for crying out loud folks, you look at what happened in the last two -- for two years ago, a year and a half, every day, newspaper, every newspaper, "New York Times," "Washington Post," anonymous intelligence sources confirming that Trump colluded with Putin to steal the election. There is no evidence for it. Zilch, zero, nothing. It didn't happen! It was made up. Hillary Clinton colluded with Russia. Hillary Clinton rigged that election. (CROWD CHEERING) LIMBAUGH: I love these rallies. They got the message. They got the message. These rallies, I have to tell you, they are the envy of official Washington. Do you realize there isn't a single elected official in either party who can do what this is tonight? Other than Donald Trump. There is nobody. (CROWD CHEERING) No one. And they are jealous. They are envious. This isn't supposed to happen. You people are supposed to love them, not Trump. So guess what? They want to get in on it. Bill and Hillary Clinton and their national stadium tour talking about -- have you seen Obama? He has been stumping down in Florida where I live. He's drawing crowds of a thousand people, 2,000 people. Joe Biden can't put a phone booth because he's looking for somebody to punch out. (CROWD CHEERING) This is incredible! And, you know, a little history, when I first started watching the campaign, I watched the president and his family come down the escalator in June of 2015 and I heard his opening remarks and I said there is no way. And then I saw the first polls. And then I saw the first one of these and I said he's going to win because he has a connection. (CROWD CHEERING) There is no other politician with a connection to voters like this. Nobody has it. And Washington can't stand it. I'm not kidding. The establishment cannot stand it at all. Now, folks, in all candor, you know, we are a nation, a great nation at risk in a dangerous world and much of the risks that we face is internal. Well, it's -- OK, tell me that we are divisive and so forth and they haven't accepted the fact they lost the election. So now -- let's take -- look at the caravan, just for an example. They think that the president doesn't want the caravan, you don't want the caravan because we are racist or sexist. Not it at all. It's an issue of law. Why should we stand aside and let people break the law? (CROWD CHEERING) What's so hard about this? We just stand aside, let them violate the law! It is -- we get all these labels thrown at us and we love our country and we want the best for everybody in it. We want the best for our kids and our grandkids. We want everybody to be great. We want everybody to experience the American dream. It was, you know, I'm from here. I'm from Cape Girardeau and -- (CROWD CHEERING) It was -- don't take this -- it was 50 years ago. It was the first time. I was 16, first time I was told I wasn't good enough to succeed in radio. (Inaudible) We are all told this. We all know how to fail. We don't need to go to the library to find books on how to fail because we all know how to do it. If you ever go to the library and find a book great moderates in American history or great committees in American history. Donald Trump wants America to be great again and it's not a slogan. It's an objective. And it is -- (CROWD CHEERING) (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: All right, joining me now, we'll check back in with Rush, is Monica Crowley, columnist for the "Washington Times'" Chris Hahn, former aide to Senator Chuck Schumer and Dave Bossie, president of Citizens United and a Fox News contributor. Monica, Trump at three different states today. Is that going to give Republicans a boost tomorrow? MONICA CROWLEY, COLUMNIST, WASHINGTON TIMES: Well, you know what, I think what we've learned over the last three years, Laura, is that Donald Trump is the only bullhorn who matters, right. So, he has the ability to put the country in a completely different state. He has the ability to rally the base, get out voters and support candidates who frankly the smart Republican candidates area the ones who have fully embraced him, stood by his side. And the signal is, look, if you want to continue this extraordinary record of achievement that Donald Trump and the Republican Congress has delivered to the American people, both in terms of a stronger economy and a stronger international position, vote for those Republican candidates even if you do not like particularly you member of Congress, just do it because this president needs backup. INGRAHAM: Chris Hahn, Obama had some really big rallies in 2010. He still lost obviously a lot of seats. It's a tough deal in the midterm cycle for the party in power historically. Only three times have they held seats or gained seats, I think since Civil War. What do you think about this? Is this dynamic any different? What do you think? CHRIS HAHN, FORMER AIDE TO SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER: No, I think history is history, right. And I think history is against Republicans in this election. I think the wrong track number is the number that most fascinates me. The same poll has the president at 46 percent high watermark for him. Has the wrong track of 59 percent. That suggests to me that the American people like checks and balances. They like Article I having a superiority to Article II and they like (inaudible) 51 ambition -- counter reacting ambition. I think that's what they're going to go out and vote for tomorrow. They're going to vote for a check because look, there are things -- I'm sure there are a lot of good things. You are a very easy grade (ph). I wish I had you in law school. I probably doing better in life right now INGRAHAM: No, I would have failed you. HAHN: Thanks a lot. INGRAHAM: I'm just teasing. HAHN: But, you know, there are a lot of good things he's done, but there's a lot of things he needs some check, some things in the cabinet especially the EPA administrator, the interior secretary. The American people have questions about that. They're going to get some answers when Congress have a proper check. INGRAHAM: But they are not voting on that. Dave Bossie, right track, wrong track, I do think Chris is right. That's an interesting barometer. However, I'm pretty sure on the right track, wrong track, this president has improved those numbers. I'm thinking about 17 percent approval of -- improvement, excuse me, of those numbers since the end of the Obama era. But nevertheless, the president is still underwater in overall approval. He is over about 51 to 52 percent. In the economy, Republicans rate better in the economy. Democrats rating better on health care. How will that play? DAVE BOSSIE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, first of all, the reason that the president is underwater in those polls is because the mainstream media continues -- for two years, continuous stream of lies about this president on a daily basis no matter what the topic. And the Democratic party, the party of chaos, the party of no substance whatsoever, no agenda for the American people, has not accepted this president, try to delegitimize him, and that is what the American people here -- every minute of every day. And this president has to fight that at every single turn. And that's why you see him underwater because people hear this incessant noise from the mainstream media, the liberal biased media every day. And this president has had to fight it every single day and that's what troubling to people like me because his accomplishments are outstanding, whether it's the economy or national security. INGRAHAM: The 3.1 percent improvement in wages is huge. That in and of itself is huge. Panel, stick around. We are going to take you back to the president's final rally of the midterm season, plus Ed Henry is here to break down what races could determine the balance of power, next. INGRAHAM: Trump has been working overtime to preserve the GOP's congressional majority. To explain the effect that he may have down the stretch, we're joined by Fox News chief national correspondent Ed Henry here in New York, Ed. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Laura, great to see you. Think about how much ground President Trump may have made up in these midterms. Then campaign started to talk of blue wave, hammering about the president putting himself front and center. But it's closing with elite pundits now hedging of whether Democrats will even take the House as Republicans are poised to perhaps increase the majority in the Senate. Th president doing what he promised, no-stop (inaudible) all weekend. Three more rallies today, packed houses in Ohio, Indiana, and now Missouri. All three have big Senate battles. The closing argument about Kavanaugh, the caravan but also the economy. You were just talking about it. Look at this ABC/"Washington Post" poll, 65 percent of the public has a positive view of the economy up from 51 percent just before the inaugural. Highest level of optimism since 2001. The president said these rallies, if Democrats score big wins, they will take a wrecking ball to the recovery. Well the president also said he's bullish about gaining seats in the Senate. GOP currently has a 51 to 49 edge. Interesting when it comes to the House, top prognosticators like Nate Silver of 538.com, now hedging, saying Democrats are clear favorites to win the house, but it's not for certain. And his models show a wide range for how many seats the Democrats may pick up. They need to flip 23 seats to take the majority, listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NATE SILVER, ELECTION FORECASTER: Most of those are above 23, which is how many seats they would need to take the House, but like -- but no one should be surprised if they only win 19 seats. And no one should be surprised if they win 51 seats. Those are both extremely possible based on how accurate polls are in the real world. TRUMP: It's the greatest political movement of all time in this country. And it's an incredible time in America. Jobs are soaring. Wages are rising. Poverty is plummeting, and more Americans are working today than ever before in the history of our nation. (EBD VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: Now, remember, it was two years ago this week the prediction models that the elites were counting on and said Hillary Clinton had a 98 percent chance of winning the White House. That was two years ago this week, Laura. INGRAHAM: Ed, thanks so much, and back with me, Monica Crowley, Chris Hahn, and Dave Bossie. OK, well, it is true, remember two years ago, guys, we were all here and all the pundits and prognosticators were very -- they were coming up to me in the makeup chair going, oh, 400 electoral votes, Laura, in my face, really close. I said, that's a pretty big win then for Hillary. A couple of hours later, well, we were the one smiling ear to ear. But this is different. It's a midterm cycle. And Tom Steyer, Monica and Bloomberg and big billionaires, they put in a lot of money in these races and they signed up a lot of people to vote. People are getting text messages, have you voted yet? Do you need to know where your precinct? It is really smart of them. They are really connecting voters with voting. And are Republicans doing that to the same extent? I don't see it. CROWLEY: Well, you know, the jury is still out on that question, Laura. It's true that money is absolutely necessary -- INGRAHAM: I haven't got one in Virginia. One text message. CROWLEY: But it's not -- it's not particularly decisive either. I think and as one of the very first to say Donald Trump was not just going to be the nominee but the president of the United States. I do not think the great silent majority is done quite yet. I think we are going to see that same number of voters that came out to elect Donald Trump, conservatives, Republicans, independents and disaffected Democrats, come out now because Donald Trump has created an emotional bond with the American people. And now he actually has a record that he's running on. And those folks out in America who are benefiting from his agenda want to make sure that he is well-protected. HAHN: I think there is enough people who voted for Trump who are a little regretting that position right now, that are going to vote the other way this time and I think turnout is going to be through the roof in this election on both sides. INGRAHAM: It already is. HAHN: But when more -- BOSSIE: Chris, there is also the other side of that. HAHN: -- when more people come out, it usually benefits the Democrats. And I consider myself an elite pundit. I'm putting the number 35 in so, you know, I think it's going through -- I think that's where we are going to wind up. INGRAHAM: Dave Bossie, I think the issue of race has really come right into the center for a lot of reasons with these horrific acts of violence, you know, white nationalist, you know, sending , you know, crazy stuff in the mail. We got that horrific attack in the synagogue. So people are riveted to this conversation for a period of time. However, the Democrats tend to overplay their hands on these issues. This was Nicole Wallace over at Msnbc who was stunned that it's not 90 percent chance that the Democrats are going to take everything. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NICOLE WALLACE, MSNBC HOST: How is this where we are and how is this -- how is this about -- how is this not a 90-10 issue? How are 90 percent of Americans, white, black, brown -- how are 90 percent Americans not vehemently, not so upset about racism that they are not out marching and protesting all Republicans? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Remember when Hillary said -- do we have the bite, what Hillary said? Let's listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTTIAL CANDIDATE: Why aren't I 50 points ahead you might ask. Well, the choice for working families has never been clearer. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: You know, when you can't sleep at night, just listen to that on a continuous loop and you go right to bed. BOSSIE: That will scare you to sleep. INGRAHAM: Yes, well, you know, it is a sense of they are so racist, they are Nazis, they are autocrats, they are Stalinist, I mean the list goes, the isms, the insults go on and on. BOSSIE: Laura, we heard this all two years ago. These exact same arguments being made two years ago, they were not true then, they are not true today. The people you're talk about that you mentioned in the open, those are the people that are going to be coming out in droves tomorrow. We are looking at numbers of about -- over 100 million people may vote in this midterm election. It will be in just unbelievable numbers across this country. And those are the people that are sick and tired of being told from the pollsters who to vote for and what to vote for. Look, I actually stood in the campaign headquarters with then candidate Trump, and we were looking at those early exit polls, and it was a gut punch saying we definitely going to lose. After hearing all day the Nates of the world and every negative pollster telling we were 100 percent certain going to lose. And of course we won. That's where we are headed tomorrow. We will pick up seats in the Senate's and we are going to keep the House. And this is going to be a monumental shift towards the president tomorrow night. INGRAHAM: I was seeing earlier today, and I believe it was on another network, but they were saying that early voting in Florida showed that -- I think it was 25,000 to 30,000 more Democrats voting early in Florida than Republicans. Now, that's party registration. That doesn't mean it's for whom you voted. Yes, please. BOSSIE: If you don't mind. So when we were going into Election Day two years ago, we were about 100,000 votes down, meaning 100,000 more Democrats voted for us that the Republican -- voted for Hillary than the for Republican. We ended up winning by 125,000 votes two years in Florida. Today we are about 70,000 votes down only. And so we are in a much better position. INGRAHAM: So you're thinking it's better. BOSSIE: It is much better. It is much better. And so I know Chris wants to say no, but the numbers don't lie, Chris. INGRAHAM: Chris Hahn, do you think young people turn out to vote, greatest numbers ever, yes? Because Hollywood told them, we're going to get to that later. CHRIS HAHN, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: It's a 400 percent increase in Texas and about a 300 percent increase in Florida. INGRAHAM: I thought you said 400 percent increase in taxes. I'm like, no, that's what the Democrats -- HAHN: Stop. INGRAHAM: More young people voting than ever before in a midterm, I predict yes. MONICA CROWLEY, LONDON CENTER FOR POLICY RESEARCH: Oh, yes. But I think - - look, I think it's happening on both sides. I think the massive turnout is happening on both sides. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, some explosive 11th hour charges in the Georgia gubernatorial race between Brian Kemp and Stacey Abrams. They've made an already contentious race explosive. Brian Kemp is here with his final message to the voters next. INGRAHAM: The Georgia gubernatorial race has been one of the most hotly contested races this cycle. The race has been rocked with charges of racism and voter suppression, with celebrity and political power players descending on the peach state throughout. Joining me to react, Georgia secretary of state, Republican candidate for governor, Brian Kemp. Mr. Secretary, thanks for being here tonight. This is how Stacey Abrams responded to your campaign's charges of hacking. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STACEY ABRAMS, (D) GEORGIA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: I think he cooked up the charge because he realizes once again he has left 6 million voters information vulnerable, and he recognized that if he got caught two days before the election having exposed so many Georgians, he would lose. And so he did what he does always, blame someone else for his mistake. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Your response? BRIAN KEMP, (R) GEORGIA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: Look, we got this information over the weekend, immediately called Homeland Security, FBI, and the Georgia Bureau of Investigations. After meeting earlier today, the Georgia Bureau of Investigations has opened a criminal investigation into this matter. Their cybercrime center will be investigating that. So it's not in the hands of my office. We have passed the information along to them. They believe it to be credible enough to open a criminal investigation. And that's where we are right now. INGRAHAM: Can you give us any more, though, Mr. Secretary? Can you give us any more? KEMP: I really can't. INGRAHAM: Is there one person, two person, five people? Overseas? In the country? KEMP: Laura, I understand, look, this is a criminal investigation, very serious matter. We've handled this like we always do cyber incidents in the office of secretary of state or any other investigation. When it's criminal we go to the proper authorities. We've done that with the GBI. They found it to be credible enough to open a criminal investigation. And we'll let them take the lead on that. I would refer questions to them at this point. INGRAHAM: Mr. Secretary, people from Jimmy Carter and, of course, other supporters of Stacey Abrams have said, well, you can't be impartial in dealing with any claims of voter suppression or challenges to the final vote once they are all cast tomorrow. Your response to that has been, well, a bipartisan commission is involved in looking at any such charges, and there's no worries. But do you see why Democrats would be concerned? And if that she was on the other foot, wouldn't Republicans be saying kind of the same thing? KEMP: Anybody that knows how the system works in Georgia wouldn't be saying that. That's a ridiculous claim. It's our county elections offices and superintendents that actually hold the election. They are counting the votes. Their local election board certifies the elections. The press and the public can go watch that. All this nonsense of voter suppression is absolutely ridiculous. Minority participation is up 23 percent in the great state of Georgia. There's a million more people on our voter rolls now than when I took office. I created an online system when Georgians can register to vote 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Stacey Abrams voted against that legislation. And if you look back, every two years these same things, these same type of charges have happened from her local groups that are supporting her extreme agenda. She's trying to distract from the record that she wants people who are here illegally to vote for her and be part of the blue wave. They even sued us over that. When we called them out in the lawsuit as to how ridiculous that was, they withdrew the complaint, and then they were suing us to do something that we already do. This is the 11th hour tactics of them. I am doing my job, Laura. I have a duty to keep elections in Georgia secure, accessible, and fair. And that's exactly what we are doing. INGRAHAM: So President Obama comes into town, Mr. Secretary, Oprah comes into the town. And it was all star power all the time. And they come in, they can draw huge crowds. Are you concerned that the star power will translate into votes and people just say, well, I like President Obama. He's great person, we liked him as president. And Oprah, we love her show. We love her magazine. So we're going to turn out to vote for Abrams. But two historic African-American success stories urging people to make history once again in the state of Georgia? KEMP: President Obama didn't win Georgia. I think everybody, including President Trump, thinks highly of Oprah Winfrey. But Georgians are going to vote for the best person to move their state forward. I talked about that last night at the rally, that they had the support of their celebrities, and I had the support of the president, the vice president, coach Vince Dooley and Herschel Walker, the goal line stalker, and a lot of other great Georgians. I think that's what Georgians want. They want a governor that's going to build off of us being the number one state for business in the country six years in a row. That was announced today by Governor Deal. I'm proud to have the governor's support as well as former Governor Sonny Purdue. We've had a great run of Republican leadership over the last 16 years. I want to keep that same direction and move it to a new level. Stacey Abrams wants to take that completely different. Raising taxes, having bigger government, a radical government takeover of health care. INGRAHAM: Georgia's economic revival has been something to watch. And people wanting to turn that back and say no because Oprah came into town? God bless her, but you can't argue with success. Mr. Secretary, we'll be watching very closely tomorrow. We really appreciate you giving us time today for a very busy night tonight before voters go to the polls tomorrow. Thanks so much. And Trump's election proved conventional wisdom did wrong in 2016, so could it happen again? Pollsters are nervous ahead of tomorrow's midterms, and two very prominent ones join us next to break it all down. And Raymond Arroyo is here to reveal what Hollywood and the president are doing in the final hours of this midterm race. Stay there. INGRAHAM: It's a question that has nagged pollsters since November 8th, 2016, and it's certainly one that they don't want to face tomorrow. What went wrong? The established narrative is that Democrats are likely to gain control of the House and Republicans hold the Senate if not expand their majority. But that narrative is based largely on national polls. So have pollsters made enough adjustments since 2016 to right their wrongs, or are we in store for another night of surprises? For answers, let's bring in two prominent members of the polling field, John McLaughlin, CEO of McLaughlin Associates, and Tom Bevan, publisher and co-founder of Real Clear Politics. John, what's different this time around for the polling companies and how they maybe have tweaked and adjusted their methodology? JOHN MCLAUGHLIN, CEO, MCLAUGHLIN AND ASSOCIATES: They were so wrong. We're talking about the media pollsters. Us who work for candidates, we live or die with the candidate. And they got surprised that, remember, the electoral lock that they were talking about two years ago. And inside the Trump campaign, we were saying no, we could win. And we were sending it around to five or six different cities a day. And that Sunday when we went through the analytics with Jared, like we could win, but we need a good turnout on Tuesday. Do you know what? Same thing tomorrow. If we don't have a good turnout, there's 35 million votes cast, and it could be 100 million. But if we don't have a good turnout, we lose. And right now, by the way, on Tom's website, there were all these Senate races today, Nevada, Florida, Missouri, Indiana. You had each different pollster saying in the media that one would say the Republican are going to win, one would say the Democrats are going to win. Some of them are going to be wrong. But the media, they basically - - they never say they are sorry. They just put out wrong polls. INGRAHAM: It's the only profession that I know of where you can be consistently wrong. Not just pollsters. Pundits -- if you are a basketball coach and you have a losing season after losing season, you are done. You're gone. Maybe you go coach high school. But what is different this time, Tom, that you are seeing in the polls that you saw last time? TOM BEVAN, REAL CLEAR POLITICS CO-FOUNDER: I want to go back and defend some of the polls in 2016, the national polls in 2016 were actually better than they had been in previous cycles. What was bad about 2016 were the pundits who were all over the place saying this was absolutely a locked race for Hillary Clinton when it was actually much, much more competitive. And there was data to support that. INGRAHAM: Yes, but don't we hear about the wall, the big Waterloo in Pennsylvania, I love sitting at the Hilton watching the Waterloo collapse, the Waterloo. And there was no way he was going to win in Wisconsin, and Michigan was done. It wasn't just the pundits. There were a lot of pollsters who got this thing wrong in 2016. Nate Silver, the big guru, everyone's looking at Nate Silver, oh, Nate Silver. I'm sorry, but Nate Silver was wrong, badly wrong. Crystal ball of Sabato's smashed all over the floor from UVA. That was wrong, too. BEVAN: Part of that was the experts were assuming -- there was data, and this is why there's some deja vu that's happening in this race, right. There's certainly evidence out there, data to support the idea that Democrats are going to win back the house and may even go 35, 40, 45 plus seats, whatever, and keep the losses and even pick up a seat in the Senate. But there's also data out there that supports the idea that Republicans could still have a pretty good day tomorrow. But it's whether the pundits have been willing to acknowledge that data and look at that data. I don't know that there's been a lot of introspection, I don't know that there's been lot of learning on the parts of experts and analysts when they are looking at the data that's out there right now. INGRAHAM: John, a lot of people put a lot of stock in the generic ballot. And I think most people watching, that sounds good, plus nine, plus seven. Once it was plus 14. In reality, what does that translate into? MCLAUGHLIN: You've got to look at the internals. A lot of these polls, because you get these colleges. You brought up the sports metaphor. I wish these colleges would get good sports teams. Instead they have polls outfits like Quinnipiac. In their national poll they'll have 23, 24 percent Republicans. It was 33 the day that Donald Trump got elected. Where did we go? We haven't left. And I'll tell you. I'm doing a race in Connecticut, you've got Sacred Heart has us up two, you have Quinnipiac has us down a couple points. INGRAHAM: Stefanowski going to win that? MCLAUGHLIN: He is going to win that, because it's about -- INGRAHAM: My home state will be rescued, finally. MCLAUGHLIN: But we've got to get out tomorrow. INGRAHAM: Got to get out. MCLAUGHLIN: You've got to get out because you've got a choice. Lamont, when they asked him this morning if he would raise taxes, he said no comment on a debate today. INGRAHAM: But I want Stefanowski. We are going to check in with President Trump's final midterm push in Cape Girardeau, Missouri. Let's check in. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: And Nancy Pelosi. (BOOS) TRUMP: From erasing everything we've gained, our economy is setting records on a daily basis. (CHEERS) TRUMP: There is no place I would rather be for the last stop of this campaign then right here in Missouri with the incredible men and women who make our country run. This is my last stop. (CHEERS) CROWD: Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! (CHEERS) TRUMP: Thank you. Thank you. We are changing the slogan. It's "Make America Great Again," greatest slogan of all time. Greatest slogan. But you know what? We can't use it for the second four, because they'd say, well, I thought you were going to make it great. What are you doing using it again? So our new slogan will be in another year, "Keep America Great." (CHEERS) TRUMP: Keep America great. That's true. Because the wrong people follow us in office, it could all be wrong. All of those 401(k)s, where your wife or your husband thinks you're a super genius, a great financial genius, because you are up 51 percent, you are up 60 percent, you are up 42 percent. My husband is a genius. But for the whole marriage of 20 years, she was screaming at him, cursing at him, saying you don't know what the hell you are doing. Now all of a sudden, he's a genius. You are looking very good. You are looking very good. But I have to say -- this is my last rally. I told you. Left Ohio. Left Georgia yesterday. Left all these great states. Montana. Big sky, big sky. We left all of these great states, we covered a lot of territory. My last stop is here. I think for one reason, for one reason, and I have to say it. Because this is the home of Rush Limbaugh. (CHEERS) TRUMP: And David Limbaugh. David, thank you. David, thank you, David. Great lawyer. I hear David is a great lawyer. Right, David? David told me. No, but Sean told me. Everybody told me. Thank you, David. But this is the home of Rush, and what he did today was fantastic, because he doesn't do that. He doesn't do that. This is his home. He loves Missouri. And it's very important. Also, this is the place that Josh is running. Josh is a young, incredible guy with tremendous talent. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: He will serve this country so well. He will represent Missouri so well. And he's actually leading. He's actually leading. (CHEERS) TRUMP: He's actually leading. For decades, Washington only served the powerful and the well-connected. Those days are over. Together, we are the voice for every citizen who has ever been overlooked, abandoned, neglected, ignored. You remember the word, the "deplorables." That was a good speech. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: I don't know did the speech writer for the "deplorable" speech, did that person get fired immediately or the following week? Wow, did he give us a great gift. But the deplorables are the greatest people on earth. They are the smartest. (CHEERS) TRUMP: Is there a doctor in the house, please? Doctor, doctor, please. Thank you. Thank you very much. Take your time. Doctor, take your time. We have plenty of time to the right? (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Thank you, doctor. Take your time, doctor. Thank you. INGRAHAM: Hollywood is making a concerted push ahead of these midterms. We'll check back in, make sure that individual who obviously needs medical attention got it. But here to tell us more, what happened tonight, you've got to see the cultural elements here, Raymond. Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor. Raymond, what's happening? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Hollywood had something they called, Laura, the telethon for America. The MDA telethon has been canceled, by Hollywood tonight convened the Telethon for America. A comedian Ben Gleib got Jane Fonda and Olivia Munn and all of these big stars -- INGRAHAM: I have no idea who any of those people are, other than Jane Fonda. ARROYO: But Ben Gleib took to the phone bank, where he had all the glitterati assembled. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OLIVIA MUNN, ACTRESS: Hey guys, yes, I'm here on our green room. Does is seem festive on TV, because this is what it looks like back here. everyone just kind of hangs out. So there is a bar, there is somebody taking a picture of me over here. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: That was Olivia Munn, who went to the big celebrity room. I think we have another clip of Ben Gleib, who is the founder of this thing. But here's how this works, Laura. They had a phone bank, you call in and promised to vote, and then a celebrity calls you back. Who are these people that need to call -- they are not even raising any money. Can you raise money for a charity maybe while you're at it? You've got the celebrities there, you got the phone bank. INGRAHAM: Anyone that anyone knows? ARROYO: There were a few. Julia Louis-Dreyfus, and Tom Arnold was down front I think still trying to find those Trump tapes, he's still looking. So this is kind of sad but last ditch effort -- INGRAHAM: This what -- I'll had it to them. They are all in because of their hatred for Donald Trump. I mean, these people despise Donald Trump. They don't care about the good economy. If more Americans are doing better, Hollywood doesn't care, they don't give a rip because it is about Trump. They want to get rid of Trump. ARROYO: There's also something very important happening here. This was clearly geared toward young viewers, young voters. They are trying to inspire them. In fact there even a song, go and vote even if you just do it for the sticker and to brag on Instagram. INGRAHAM: The sticker? Honestly. Up next, the heated moment from our Friday focus group where we were in Phoenix. We didn't show it to you on Friday. We'll show -- (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you are marginalized and you are under the foot of your oppressor, like, I can't say that I am comfortable and thus able to be in a space where I can have really intelligent, intellectually clear dialogue. Do you want me to say, excuse me, sir, can you please take your foot off my throat? It doesn't work that way. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I say, let the vote be a conversation to take the foot out of your neck that anyone might have on your neck. Use the vote. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: An important final message for voters ahead of tomorrow. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team. Take it from here. Shannon, take it away. Load-Date: November 6, 2018 End of Document Four Days Until Crucial Midterm Elections; Dem's Dirty Midterm Election Tactics; Trump Touts Booming Economy on Campaign Trail; White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders Said That The Mainstream Media Will Never Change Their Extreme Hate To President Trump, And That They Will Never Give Him A Break, Neither They'll Recognize His Administration's Achievements; Some Democrats And The Media Are Too Confident That They Are Going To Win This Midterm Elections In Both The House And The Senate But Polls Doesn't Seem To Agree With Their Confidence As It Shows Republicans Still Has A Chance To Win The Senate Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 2, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7533 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Bill Hemmer, Tammy Bruce Guests: Mark Penn, Herman Cain, Sean Spicer Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Welcome to "Hannity." In four days, just four days, the polls will be open, you will have the power to decide the balance of power in Washington, D.C. Remember, a vote for any Democrat in the House, that's a vote for Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Jerrold Nadler, Shifty Schiff. A vote for any in the Senate, you're basically voting for Chuck Schumer. This is the reality. We'll show you all the stats to back it up tonight. It looks unusually close this midterm election and it looks like turn out is going to be key. As per usual, Democrats have been using the politics of fear and division to motivate their base. You've seen it with your own eyes, for months, vilifying Trump, his supporters, and even the man that he appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court. No lie too egregious, no exaggeration too bold and no smear too absurd. Democrats are willing to do and say anything because they want power and we have been showing you the tapes to prove it every night. But tonight, the president, he's out pounding on the campaign trail, fighting like never before. And unlike Democrats, he actually has a track record and a positive message to share. With great news today, the economy is booming like never before. We'll show you today's numbers and also, we will have more analysis from all the critical election races all across America. Bill Hemmer will join us from the "Hannity" big board. Plus, we're going to give you an inclusive new Project Veritas videos, two of them. And we have an update from the crisis at our southern border. Buckle up midterms, four days away. It's almost game-time. But, first, time for tonight's breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. President Trump, he is out pounding the campaign trail again. This weekend, he will be making stops in four different states. Today, he held two major rallies, Indiana and West Virginia. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We are finally putting America first. It's been a long time. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) But if Chuck Schumer, Cryin' Chuck, and Nancy Pelosi -- (BOOS) And the legendary Maxine Waters -- (BOOS) Take power, they will try to erase our gains and eradicate our progress, that's what's going to happen. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: President Trump campaigning in West Virginia. That means one thing, incumbent Democrat Joe Manchin is in serious trouble. You do know that he won by, like, 40 points in 2016 in West Virginia. Tonight, Democrats spread a message of fear and division like they do every two and four years. President Trump, a very positive message to deliver today. His agenda, it is working, the evidence is in, the economy is booming like never before. And just today, new numbers. The Labor Department announced big news. A whopping 250,000 more new jobs added in just the month of October, shattering all expectations, even in spite of a hurricane. Unemployment, well, it's at a 49-year low, 3.7 percent. We now have a record number of Americans employed. And wage growth, look at this number -- it's now surging past 3 percent. That means real money in real people's pockets for the first time since 2009. And overall, nearly 4.5 million jobs have been added since President Trump has been elected. Now, keep in mind, we already have record low unemployment for Hispanic Americans, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, women in the workplace, youth unemployment. We literally have more jobs available, about a million, than we actually have on food stamps. We have more people out of poverty than ever before. There are more jobs than we have people for. The country, we have success after success, shattering every record on the books and record low unemployment in 14 states. Now even some on the left, they can't help but admit that the Trump agenda is actually working. We are getting all these election week conversions. Look at this. Former Obama economic advisor touting the jobs numbers, calling the jobs report, quote, everything you could ever want, in a New York op-ed. For Fox News, former Clinton advisor Mark Penn, he praised the president for taking a bold stance on major issues. Americans tonight are taking notice four days out of an election. It is why the president's approval numbers are continuing to soar, hitting 51 percent in the latest Rasmussen poll. So, four days until the important midterm elections. Ask yourself this question: is President Trump delivering on his promises, is he keeping his word? Well, he's going all in. You can see it -- 11 cities, 11 states, 11 stops in just, what, five, six days, fighting for every vote, crisscrossing the country at the speed of Trump, all on behalf of the policies that are working for that forgotten men and women that suffered eight years under Barack Obama, because of every objective economic measure, you look at it, we are better off. Meanwhile, Democrats, no plan to make your life better. They offer nothing but, what, daily hate, division, obstruction. They want higher taxes, more regulation, more Obamacare, more open borders, more sanctuary cities. They obstruct originalist justices that believe in the Constitution. They want endless investigations. They want to even go back to the phony Trump- Russia collusion claims. Ask yourself, how is any of this agenda going to improve your life? Make no mistake, there are no moderates left in the Democratic Party today. This is a party of radical extremists, any moderates have long been drawn out into his extinction, every Democrat you elect votes as a bloc, based on the direction of Chuck Schumer in the Senate, Nancy Pelosi in the House. In the Senate, Montana Democrat incumbent, Jon Tester, he voters with Chuckie Schumer 87 percent of the time. By the way, Montana voted for Trump. By the way, he calls himself a moderate, he's anything but. He's Chuck Schumer except he lives in Montana. In Ohio, Senator Sherrod Brown, look at this. He votes with Schumer a whopping 98 percent of the time. In Florida, Bill "do nothing" Nelson, he votes with Schumer 88 percent of the time. North Dakota, Heidi Heitkamp, she supports Schumer 70 percent of the time. West Virginia, Joe Manchin sides with Schumer 64 percent of the time. Every county in West Virginia voted for Trump. Indiana, Joe Donnelly -- well, he says he's a moderate. He's not. He votes with Schumer by a whopping rate of 74 percent, especially on the big issues. And Donnelly now in the last week of the campaign is trying to appear to be something he's not, just like we saw in Tennessee, and in Missouri, an Arizona, and in North Dakota and Florida, he's trying to pretend he is a moderate. As you can see, that's a bald-faced lie. According to a report from "The Daily Beast," he's actually running a stealth campaign. Look at this. In Indiana, running ads in support of the third-party libertarian. That candidate literally is siphoning away votes from Michael Braun. They are splitting the ticket. They're doing it on purpose. Now, he knows he could not win -- Joe Donnelly could not win a one-on-one battle with Michael Braun against the Republican. Now, this is dirty, despicable politics, yet predictable at its worst. And today, a brand-new undercover Project Veritas video, guess what? Joe Donnelly's wife and campaign staff all scheming once again to cover up just how liberal Joe Donnelly really is, as again, as always, we show you the tape and you get to decide. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOURNALIST: What's Senator Donnelly's take on like right to work? Do you know? We looked it up -- JILL DONNELLY, WIFE OF SENATOR JOE DONNELLY: Do you want to answer this or do you want me to? CAMPAIGN WORKER: No. JOURNALIST: Sorry. TONY FLORA, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF LETTER CARRIERS UNION MEMBER: Right to work, it takes away workers' rights and destroys unions. He's for working for families. JILL DONNELLY: He's for working families. JOURNALIST: But he supports the unions, right? CAMPAIGN WORKER: Well -- JILL DONNELLY: Don't say that to people. JOURNALIST: Sorry, no. But I'm just wondering for myself to -- FLORA: Yes, yes. JILL DONNELLY: He does. JOURNALIIST: Got it. But, it's almost like Donnelly has to play down being liberal. Does that make sense? DAVE MADDEN, JOE DONNELLY CAMPAIGN: Yes, he does, especially in Indiana, just because like -- JOURANLIST: Super red. MADDEN: -- it's so conservative. You know, we have, like, four or five safe Democratic counties. JOURNALIST: Do you think he has to stifle more of like, his liberal side to kind of -- even get the platform in the first place? WILL TALCOTT, DONNELLY CAMPAIGN WORKER: I feel like probably. JOURNALIST: It sucks. TALCOTT: To some extent, because -- JOURNALIST: Yes, it sucks. TALCOTT: He's -- I know for a fact that he's losing voters because of Kavanaugh. JOURNALIST: Because he voted no. TALCOTT: Because he voted no. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, we reached out to the Donnelly campaign, didn't request -- return our request for comment, but is really anyone shocked? We have been showing you this in all of these red states, Democrats pretending to be something they are not. Countless examples caught on camera, plotting to seem less liberal, less extreme. Basically bamboozling, purposely lying to the people in their states. They want to hide just how far left the entire Democratic Party has become. They are out of touch. They have contempt for the voters. Claire McCaskill is saying, well, she's not one of the crazy Democrats when in fact, she actually is. Jon Tester complaining that the Democratic Party botched the Kavanaugh debate. Yes, they didn't give him a chance. Remember Montana was against Kavanaugh -- and Tester was against Kavanaugh from the beginning. Joe Donnelly actually ran an ad warning about socialists and government-run health care. His party, his BFF, his new best friend, his buddy Chuckie Schumer gave us that failure, gave us that monstrosity. Nobody kept their doctor, their plans, and everybody paid more. And many people only have one choice of a health care provider. This is a lie campaign. Now, they almost always vote with Schumer. They support the far left policies of Schumer. They constantly work to obstruct President Trump and his agenda. All they want is power and they have contempt and they are caught on tape. Bredesen caught on tape. Claire McCaskill caught on tape. Heidi Heitkamp caught on tape. Kyrsten Sinema caught on tape. Now, we have Joe Donnelly, caught on tape. Gillum, the one who's one running for governor in Florida, caught on tape. Look no further than Kavanaugh and Gorsuch. Only an extreme party line far left Democrat would be voting against these two highly qualified, impeccable candidates. And we saw what happened, no due process, no presumption of innocence. And tonight, we have yet another revealing Project Veritas video to show you, this time, yes, it comes from the great state of Texas. By the way, $80 million they have been using in Texas to smear and slander Ted Cruz, who has been a staunch constitutional conservatives for six years. And they've come up with their new hero, their new anointed one. Beto "Bozo" O'Rourke as I call him. He's caught on tape, people in his campaign, scheming to divert campaign funds to help migrants entering our country. By the way, potential huge campaign violation. We report, you view it, you get to decide. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DOMINIC CHACON, FIELD MANAGER, BETO O'ROURKE CAMPAIGN: I think we can use that with those cards (the campaign prepaid cards) to buy some food, all that (AUDIO DELETED) can be totally masked like "oh we just wanted healthy breakfast". JOURNALIST: I know that we're using some of the campaign resources to help with the migrants like, I just didn't want anybody to get in trouble with that, like I didn't want them to ask any questions about people using resources. JODY CASEY, CAMPAIGN MANAGER, BETO O'ROURKE: Don't worry. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I don't want to get caught, we could be fined $50,000. Oh. In a statement, by the way, Bozo O'Rourke's campaign, they attacked Ted Cruz of using fear and paranoia. You can see their words on tape, projectveritas.com. Meanwhile, former communist turned former CIA director turned fake news conspiracy TV theorist, MSNBC hack John Brennan, has now officially endorsed Bozo. And tonight, Senator Ted Cruz maintains the lead. That raised is tight, $80 million liberal Democrats have thrown against Ted Cruz. Texans, Bozo does not represent Texas values. It is that simple. In Florida tonight, usually successful Governor Rick Scott, he's in a very, very tight race, too close to call against incumbent, liberal, do-nothing Senator Bill Nelson. The race for governor is also just as close. Republican, Freedom Caucus member Ron DeSantis making a last-minute push as his opponent far left, Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum, facing tonight serious charges of corruption, atually taking tickets to the Broadway hit show "Hamilton." He took them from an undercover FBI agent running a bribery scheme. Guess what? Apparently, it worked. Gillum also accepting a luxury vacation in Costa Rica from a lobbyist and other possible scheme. Gillum reportedly facing investigation as we speak tonight, yesterday calling the corruption charges a sideshow. I think all of you probably want free tickets, free vacations? Free, free, free? Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MAYOR ANDREW GILLUM (D), FLORIDA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: The president has called me thief. If I'm stealing anything, it's hearts and minds. We're going to win this race frankly for that reason. On issue, as I said all along, I have zero tolerance for corruption. I am not under FBI investigation and neither is my city. What we have done is aided them all the way along, "Hamilton" has again been a sideshow. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh, I'm stealing hearts and minds and cash for "Hamilton" tickets and free luxury vacations. Gillum wins, probably won't even a finish his first term. See, he can't be governor of Florida from a federal prison. Let's see what happens. Now, despite everything we have just showed you, Nancy Pelosi, she couldn't be more confident, guaranteeing a huge Democratic victory a few days ago. Now, even left-winger, far left-wing conspiracy theorist Michael Moore thinks Pelosi went too far. There's a problem when you lose him. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL MOORE, FILMMAKER: I'm not going to make the mistake that someone else made on a late night show a couple of nights ago? SETH MEYERS, LATE NIGHT: OK. MOORE: A Democrat -- MEYERS: Yes. MOORE: -- who just automatically announced, we're going to win, and it's like, my God, that's what happened in 2016. Everybody was throwing the party for Hillary before the election. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Notice how all these Hollywood liberals, rich Hollywood liberals -- is kind of interesting -- they always support policies that never work for the people of this country, like Michael Moore. If you lose Michael Moore, Nancy, you know you are treading on some dangerous ground. Now, for years, Democrats, they have relied on the monolithic support from Hollywood to get that message out. And one of their favorite, far left actors, poor little Alec Baldwin, is in trouble. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALEC BALDWIN, ACTOR: Can you imagine any other president saying this? No, because that would be that the action of a dictator or a king, not the president of the United States. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Alec Baldwin is actually arrested today in New York City for allegedly punching someone in the face. What about? A parking spot dispute. But the left thinks angry Alec is the perfect messenger for their platform. You know what? Probably is. All right. Before we go tonight, we must address a topic that grows more serious with each passing day, thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants still marching toward our southern border. And while the majority of those migrants, probably 99 percent, have good intentions and probably want what we take for granted, they are in search of another life for themselves and their families, there is a massive security risk at play here. Nobody can vouch for any one of these people. The Department of Homeland Security is now reporting and assessing tonight that 270 people in that caravan of thousands are either known gang members or have criminal backgrounds. Now, the president is vowing to turn back the caravan, saying he's willing to commit as many as 15,000 troops in order to secure our border, protect our sovereignty, respect our laws. He also told those who intend to illegally come into this country, they should turn back now, they are wasting their time. By the way, our troops have already begun arriving from McAllen, Texas, on Thursday, and more are on the way. And tonight, we are learning that a group of migrants have already filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration for violating their constitutional rights. And they are not even at the border yet. They are not citizens. And, of course, Democrats, they're not allowed to talk about this. John Podesta's group says do not talk about this, just switch topics. They don't want to talk about any of this. They don't want to talk about what they really believe because they support open borders, sanctuary cities, sanctuary states. Doesn't matter how much it costs you, the taxpayer. They also rolled out their retired fearless leader, yes, he's back. Former President Obama, the anointed one, who mocked America's caravan concerns as nothing more than a political stunt. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: In 2018, they are telling you, the existential threat to y America is a bunch of poor refugees a thousand miles away. They are even taking our brave troops away from their families for a political stunt at the border. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I think he's lost a step or two. He doesn't quite have the magic he once did. According to a new study tonight, look at this, six in ten Americans, they want the troops to stop the migrant caravan from entering our country illegally. Fifty-one percent of the Hispanic Americans also support troops at our southern border. Sadly, Democrats are putting their heads in the sand. Instead of securing our border, protecting Americans, respecting our sovereignty, our Constitution, we know their plan, open borders, sanctuary cities, regardless of how much it costs the American taxpayer. Instead of growing the economy and creating jobs, they want, what, they want to raise taxes. That's what this election is about. You want to raise taxes or cut taxes? You want to protect our Constitution or do you like those that block constitutionalist judges and smear and slander and eliminate all due process and presumption of innocence? Instead of improving the lives of the forgotten men and women that make this country great, what do they want? Endless investigations. Really? More Trump-Russian collusion? For another two years? In four days, this coming Tuesday, you have the power to shock the world. You can stand up for common sense, for what's working, everything that makes America great. This election is about jobs, higher taxes versus tax cuts, whether or not our borders will be secure or not, energy independence or energy dependence. This is about America being strong on the national stage or not. This is about America for your kids, for our future. A lot at stake. When we come back, Bill Hemmer at the "Hannity" big board tonight. We'll take a look at the Senate and House and Senate races that matter the most. They all do. Herman Cain and Mark Penn will be here. Later, a big announcement. Stay with us. A lot of news tonight. HANNITY: All right. Only four days left until you, the American people, head to the polls. Joining us now from the "Hannity" big board, "America's Newsroom" co-host Bill Hemmer. You know, yesterday, you were using the baby "Hannity" big board and I'm like we got the big board. And I'm like, what happened? BILL HEMMER, FOX NEWS CORRSONDENT: You want a supersize it, don't you? HANNITY: Yes. HEMMER: You will see that on Tuesday night, I don't want to give away too many secrets away just yet. But, Sean, in a moment, I'm going to show you the what-if scenario that you predicted last time for the Senate, OK? And I'm going to see in a moment if you change your mind over 24 hours. Is that a deal? HANNITY: All right. You got it. HEMMER: OK. First, I want to start with the House. And, Sean, here's what we'll take our viewers through. On Tuesday night, around 7:00, what are the telltale signs about how this race is going? The polls close at 7:00 in Indiana, Virginia, lots of good House races there, in the state of Georgia, good governors races down there. And at 7:30 p.m., we're moving to Ohio and West Virginia, and North Carolina, a couple of good House races here as well. At 8:00, I think this is really where you start to digest the data. This is where we start to get an idea as to which way perhaps this race is going, especially on the House side. And here's what I'm looking at, Sean. We have at the moment at least 29 races that we think are pure toss-ups. But in Pennsylvania, here with the contours in New Jersey, we have eight different races that we think are in play. Red is leaning Republican, blue is leaning Democrat. The yellow ones here are pure toss-ups. It is my hunch, Sean, I don't know if you agree or disagree with this, but I think Democrats -- I think they could win net three House seats in Pennsylvania. Remember, they went redistricting back in January. It's not apples to apples from two years ago. So, I think if they do better than three, they could be in for a good night for the Democrats. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: If it's a big change though, when they gerrymandered again, that was a big deal. And you are right, they redid the districts to -- for the very purpose that they could pick up these seats. HEMMER: I've done the math. I think it's a net of three for Democrats. If it's higher than that, then they could be off to a good night, if it's at three or less than, that could be a better time for the GOP. Now, conversely, for Republicans, Sean, always come back here to Florida because I keep driving myself down the I-4 corridor in my mind -- you know, Tampa, Orlando, or Daytona. There are two house races down here that lean Republican, 15 and 16. If Republicans hold them early in the night, again, this is around 8:00 or 8:30 in the evening, it could be a good time for the GOP. The other one I'm watching here is back in Ohio. Now, remember, just a few months ago, we had that special election. This is Ohio district 12. This is Columbus, Ohio, the suburbs out to the rural areas. If Troy Balderson holds on, and we might get an indication early on the night, again, it would be a good sign for the Republicans. So, we'll see how this goes. And again, I mentioned the 29 toss-ups, these are the districts on the map. They will tell a story for you throughout the coming days for what matters and where. Now, you want to talk about the Senate, OK? Where was the president today? He was in West Virginia. He was in Indiana. West Virginia, you know about that Senate race, Patrick Morrisey against Joe Manchin. This is where all of the polls come together. Manchin appears to have the lead by about eight points, but let's just take you back two years. I mean, this is an extraordinary thing. These are presidential results from 2016 in West Virginia. Do the math there, Sean. That's 42 points where the president was a winner and that is again why he thinks he's got a good shot flipping that seat for Morrisey. By the way, congressional seat number three is up for grabs. Pop over to Indiana real quick, a state that he won by 20 points two years ago. The Senate race there, we know what it is. It's Joe Donnelly, the Democrat, Mike Braun, the Republican. If you look at the polls and smash them altogether, it looks like Donnelly has about a one-point lead there. Now, last night, we did a what-if, right, for the Senate for you. Let's go ahead and dial this up and tell me where you think something could give. Remember, we started with 51-49, Republicans and Democrats. Last night, you said Missouri flips, right? HANNITY: I say Missouri -- well, first, Republicans have to hold Tennessee, Nevada with Dean Heller, and Martha McSally. I hope and I believe she would win Arizona. So, they hold those three. HEMMER: OK. HANNITY: Florida is too close to call in my mind. I do believe North Dakota will flip. I believe Jon Tester is in trouble. Indiana is so close, the only thing holding back the Republican is the libertarian in that race. And I -- so all of these are fluid. I'm not sure about West Virginia. That would be an outlier, as would be the state of New Jersey. Bob Menendez is in big trouble. They put huge resources in at the last hour to help him. So, net pick up, I would say Missouri. I would say net pick up North Dakota. HEMMER: OK. HANNITY: I would say net pick up Indiana, and we can go from there. HEMMER: OK, I have to flip Indiana. This is your final answer, right? You're at 54-46. HANNITY: I'm where I was yesterday, I didn't change my mind. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: Bill Hemmer, thank you. We'll be watching. We'll see you back here Monday. Joining us now with reaction, America Fight Back chairman Herman Cain, and former Clinton pollster, adviser, Mark Penn. What a great piece out. Good to see you both. Mark, let's start with you. You seem to have a grasp -- it really is a phenomenon, and to be fair, to Democrats, Clinton had it to a certain extent in '92. Obama had it in 2008, and Trump has it and he is not running. Trump has these crowds and overflows that are massive. People don't seem to be counting that. MARK PENN, FORMER CLINTON POLLSTER AND ADVISER: Well, I think we missed in 2016, how these rallies really made a difference. And it looks like President Trump is pursuing a Senate strategy, this thing is likely to be a split decision in midterms after the first two years of the presidency, and that's as close to a win as you are likely to get. But I think that, you know, something is going on here with the insults being thrown around. What I really said today in the piece in FoxNews.com is, look, we see insults on both sides. I think where Trump had the advantage in 2016 was he hit issues, whether he's hitting the economy where he's got a 57 percent approval, or immigration where he is provocative, not only on the side -- I don't agree with all the policies, but he's talking about issues. And the failure of the Democrats is not to join issues. Get out there on health care, infrastructure, redoing the cities, crime. You don't hear any of that being joined on the other side. And I think that's a big mistake. HANNITY: I agree with you. Democrats have not picked a single issue that they're running on. They are being stay - - they are being told to stay away from immigration to just stop talking about impeachment. A lot of hate Trump rhetoric and want the crumbs back and they really show that they want open borders. You know, but Herman Cain, I do think that we got to take seriously history and headwinds. And I think Mark is right, if the Republicans pick up seats in the Senate that's a huge win, even if the Democrats were to take back the house. We got to just go back and look at history. In '94, for the first time in 40 years Newt Gingrich won the house for Republicans. That was Bill Clinton's first midterm. In 2010 was a blowout that was the first midterm for Barack Obama. Huge Republican pickups. So the president has certainly a lot of headwinds as it relates to the house, I would say that house right now leaning tonight towards Democrats because so many tossups are Republican holds or Republican must holds, but I think the Senate goes Republican. HERMAN CAIN, CHAIRMAN, AMERICA FIGHTING BACK: Yes. Well, for sure we know that we will know after Tuesday night. But here's the thing. Today is a lot different than those other two years that you referenced those other two situations. And here's why. People have more access to information than they've ever had, which I believe is going to change what has happened historically in terms of how this might turn out. I'm still cautiously optimistic that the Republicans will maintain control of the house and Republicans will maintain control of the Senate. I'm not counting whether they were going to pick up seats from I'm maintaining that they may control it. And here's why. You have some people at the call secret conservatives that aren't making any noise, they aren't saying anything. They aren't participating in the polls. I think the polls are directional, but the polls are not exact in terms of what think the outcome is going to be. HANNITY: Well. CAIN: But the big thing is people have access to more and better information themselves. HANNITY: Well, certainly that the polls are wrong in '04. Exit polls show John Kerry was president. In 2016 could've been more wrong, could have been wrong in 2014. There is something too, I think, Mark what Herman is saying here. Now by the way, I do fear is a great motivator. Fear of Nancy Pelosi really have a good shot here hopefully motivates people. But at least -- at least on the conservative side but the reality is, if they pollsters wrong this time we might be making the case that polls are irrelevant in the era of Trump. PENN: Well, look, I agree with that. There's a conventional wisdom here based on the polls that the Democrats will take the House and the Republicans will hold and probably expand their lead in the Senate. If that happens as pollsters I'm going to look good again, we kind of knew what was going on. If something happens either way, there's a Democratic wave that we didn't expect and the Democrats getting or there is a Republican wave and you hold on. That's clearly not what the polls are saying. And therefore, we're really going to have to question the polls and Trump in the era of Trump as it become harder and harder to do. But I think this is going to be the return of conventional wisdom. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Predictions. You're going with conventional that. PENN: Yes. HANNITY: You're going with that. What do you. Herman, you are predicting both houses Republican. CAIN: I'm predicting both Houses. You cannot bat elections today the way you used to. HANNITY: I am predicting too close to call. There are pick up seats in the Senate and then the House I would say advantage tonight Democrats. I would just tell the truth. But you can shock the world. We'll explain more as the program unfolds. Sarah Sanders on the media's outright despicable horrific unprecedentedly low coverage leading up to the midterms and an important announcement. It's pretty important. We'll tell you about coming later in the show. HANNITY: Al right. So, this week we saw the hate Trump, destroy-Trump mainstream media blatantly rooting for the Democrats to win in four days. In case you missed it, well, here are some of the examples. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKA BRZEZINSKI, ANCHOR, MSNBC: You want to live check on this man and his unrelenting race to the finish here to make sure he can continue destroying this country. You might want to vote all D. MAX BOOT, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: Instead of standing up for this kind of hatemongering by President Trump, Republicans are imitating it. STEPHEN COLBERT, COMEDIAN: I know I haven't stop praying since you were elected. Dear God, when will this end? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Joining us with reaction White House press secretary, the hardest job in the entire universe, Sarah Sanders is with us. Good to see you. This went from, look, there's been nonstop hate almost from the day Melania and the president came down the escalator, but this took on a whole new level this week. Racist Nazi comparisons, it just never ending, blaming the president for the synagogue shooting, and yet the guy that shot the synagogue and committed that act of terror that anti-Semitic act hated Trump because of his strong support for Israel. That's how bad things have gotten. SARAH HUCKABEE-SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: It absolutely discussing. I'm just glad to see there's no bias in the media. That's my favorite part of all the clips that you just showed. They constantly talk about how they are fair in their reporting, but what you just gave us was a glimpse into every day with many in the media. One of the saddest truths is that they want to blame this president for every single problem in the world but refused to give him any credit for all of the success that he's had. It's absolutely outrageous and I think you just saw a great taste and a sad truth of what we deal with unfortunately, every day. HANNITY: You know, for example, you watch fake news CNN and they deserve every criticism they get. It is almost every second, every minute, every hour of every day that this is all that they do is demonize the president. And even -- it's gone beyond what we get every two and four years racist, sexist, homophobic xenophobic, Islamophobic, dirty air, water, kill children and throw granny over the cliff. Now he's responsible for terrorism or some nut that, you know, sends bombs to innocent people. SANDERS: One of the things I found so startling. There was a poll that came out just today that showed over 60 percent of the country feels like the media is dividing the country, and only 17 percent thinks they actually do anything to help bring people together, yet, they continue to try to place the blame on the president is absolutely outrageous. We saw CNN the first thing they did after the suspicious packages were mailed it wasn't to condemn the individual, it was to go after the president. The first thing the president did was condemn the individual and go after that person. At some point, Democrats and the media have to put personal responsibility on people that are carrying out these heinous acts and doing these despicable things. Yet, they continue they want to try to put every single bad thing in the world on the president and it's just getting out of control. HANNITY: You know, in a weird way, and it was funny to get lectured by Jeff Zucker and I'm like, watch thy own network and you might see, you know, the very thing that they accused president of. But in a weird way with the public 60 plus percent seeing that the media is that way. I think they -- I don't think it means as much. And now the president has been on the road, he's doing 11 stops in less than a week and the president's gone all in on the campaign and I always -- I don't believe the polls anymore because I think there is that incalculable base of Trump voters that will never talk to the media or any pollster. They are going to go click and not answer or lie to them. SANDERS: Absolutely. And you can see that every one of the events that the president has hosted not just over the coming days. But what we've seen over the last month it's unprecedented the types of crowds and the people and the enthusiasm that the president is turning out particularly when he's not on the ballot. And I think that we have a great momentum going into Tuesday. They're great enthusiasm. And the reason is because the president has had an incredible two years and people have to make a decision. Do they want to continue to go down the road that we're on under the president's leadership with a booming economy? One of the best economies we've seen in years, if not in history is happened under this president and that's because of the tax cuts. That's because of him getting rid of this job killing deregulations that have been a burden on businesses, particularly small businesses-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, let's talk about that. SANDERS: -- over the last eight years. HANNITY: All right. We have 250,000 jobs by the way. And normally when you have hurricane that impacts job creation, you have literally wage growth, the highest since 2009, unemployment at a 49-year low, 4.5 million new jobs since the president was created. We have literally eight million Americans off of food stamps and out of poverty in that time. And literally the best two years economically that we've ever had. And yet, I don't think I've ever watched any one of the big three networks the New York Times, Washington Post ever talk about what is really an economic miracle. SANDERS: And they all said it couldn't be done. And frankly, Sean, the sad piece is, I think a lot of people in the media want to see the president fail and it drives them absolutely crazy that he continues to succeed week after week, month after month and deliver on things they said that weren't possible under any president, much less under this president. HANNITY: Yes. SANDERS: And he continues to surprise them all, and I think you do it again on Tuesday. HANNITY: Whatever they pay you it's not nearly enough. You couldn't pay anybody. I don't know why you do this job. How you-- (CROSSTALK) SANDERS: I love our country and I'm proud to serve in this administration. I think we got a great story to tell and I'm glad I got to do it. HANNITY: Boy, that's a great answer, you are serving your country. Yes. This is, you know, you carrying a lot of heavy backpacks out there. Sarah Sanders, thanks for being with us. SANDERS: You bet. Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: All right. When we come back, the president back on the campaign trail, he'll be on the trail all weekend. I'm joined by some special guest. We're going to explain and get reaction with Tammy Bruce and Sean Spicer, all coming up. And we have a little big surprise you don't want to miss. It's big, straight ahead. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Under Republican leadership, America is booming. America is thriving, and American is winning like never before because we are finally putting America first. BOOBY KNIGHT, BASKETBALL COACH: What I want you to say very simply is this. Go get them, Donald. (APPLAUSE) KNIGHT: One, two, go get them, Donald. (CROWD CHANTING) KNIGHT: Three, go get them, Donald. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That was from the president's rally from earlier today as he is barnstorming and crisscrossing the nation. Joining us now with reaction, America First Action senior adviser, Sean Spicer, and Fox News adviser, Tammy Bruce is with us. Tammy, I watched the president he is going all in. And I watched the Democrats don't have the equivalent of Donald Trump. And I watched, you know, the Georgia race and I know it's close but I think Brian Kemp is going to win that race, he's for governor down there. And watching just when you compare him and this is somebody who is great on the stump in '08 and '12. To President Trump it just does not have the same zap, zip. I don't know what you want to call it. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. You know, I think the big difference is and we can tell not only can the live audiences tell but those of us watching him can tell. This is a man who genuinely likes what he's doing, who likes the people that he works for. He loves the country. This is not a game for him. He has a mission as a businessman to accomplish something and he is all in. And you see -- this is the difference and this is part of what got him elected as well. And of course, you know, he knows that his fight has been one, if you will, but he knows that for the American people to continue to succeed he must have the House of Representatives to be able to continue the agenda. And this is, that's part of this commitment, of course, and I think that when it comes to the issues also this is a big difference. The president is talking about issues. The issues that affect all of our lives. The Democrats constantly still are effectively threatening us with every conversation with every assertion. It is about chaos, it's about threats. It's about whether it's Nancy Pelosi now and Hillary Clinton saying, well, you know you give us what we want well, you know, stop being violent. That has got to be acceptable. But they say that because they don't have the issues with which they can discuss. One fellow on Twitter. Brian, you are noted today, 25 -- 250,000 jobs. We know of course accomplished, we know that in the last jobs report today. And Alec Baldwin punches a guy in the nose. This is jobs not mobs, right. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He can't -- he can't handle the pressure. BRUCE: We got jobs in one hand, mobs on the other one. HANNITY: You know, you look at the economic numbers today and there are astounding, historic, Sean Spicer. And then I'm listening to, you know, Adam Schiff and Maxine Waters they are talking about revenge. We'll do to you what you've done to us and endless investigation. And I'm thinking is there one platform, is there any one policy they are offering. They won't talk about immigration. John Podesta's said don't. They won't talk about impeachment. They told Maxine to be quiet. What do they stand for, what are they offering the American people that is going to make their lives better? I don't hear any of that. SEAN SPICER, FORMER UNITED STATES WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Well, it's difficult, Sean. The jobs report this morning showed 250,000 jobs in October, which is another continued 200 plus thousand a month. We're just averaging just over 214,000 jobs a month. Real wages went up 3.1 percent, that's the largest growth that we've seen wages since 1969. Sectors like manufacturing, healthcare, hospitality, construction, all areas where I think Democrats will be looking to the working class to say we can provide better policies, but they can't. People are taking home more, they're finding jobs their lives are better and that makes it very difficult politically to go out there and say we offer you a better solution. So, they're having a difficult time doing this. And Tammy is right. They don't -- they can just go out and scare you because they don't have any real policy items and the president is getting results. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. So. SPICER: And if I just say, Sean. I mean, look, you correctly put it. The president has running through tape. America first is now in for millions of dollars. He's in Indiana tonight we're in $3 million in there. We've been in for Patrick Morrisey in West Virginia. We're all in this together. We're going to big in the Senate. HANNITY: You know what, we know what the conventional wisdom is that we hold the Senate and pickup seats and the House goes to the Democrats by a tiny margin. I want your predictions. Tammy? BRUCE: Well, look, the conventional wisdom two years ago was Hillary is going to be president. That didn't happen either. I trust in the American people and that means I believe that we'll hold the House of Representatives on Tuesday. HANNITY: What do you think, Sean? SPICER: Fifty-five seats in the Senate. We hold all four seats the Dems are targeting. And we hold the house by two. BRUCE: Bravo. HANNITY: Listen, I like fears a motivator. And I'm Irish. I like them. I'm thinking the worst-case scenario when something is going to go wrong, you know, any second now. So, I hope you're both right. All right. When we come back, a huge announcement. Find out where we will be Monday and who we will -- who we will be with. That's next. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Quick programming note. Make sure to tune this Monday night, election eve, 9 Eastern. And we will be live at the president's final rally in Cape Gerardo, Missouri. That's the home of Rush and David Limbaugh. Plus, we will have an interview with the president. You don't want to miss that before he takes the stage in Cape Girardeau on the eve of the midterm elections. You don't want to miss them. Also, Fox News has announced the launch of our new premium subscription service called Fox nation, Foxnation.com. It goes live on November 27. It's an on-demand service daily live opinion shows, documentaries. Here's a sneak peek of one of the documentaries you will only be able to see there. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The tragedy on Martha's Vineyard has raised more questions that have been answered. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Camelot ended. The morning police found that car. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We found the body. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was Mary Jo (Ph). UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Senator Kennedy, what have you done? It's been 10 hours and you haven't told anybody. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The Kennedy name ran that part of the United States. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The chief says Senator Kennedy obviously we need to talk to you, can you come down here and Kennedy says, when I prefer you come to me. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was supposed to be an autopsy, they tried to get away with it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We wanted to find out what happened. And here we are 50 years later and we still don't know the whole story. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The story of Camelot only works if it has magic, he used up all the magic. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And for a limited time, you can sign up as a founding member and by doing so you get exclusive merchandise. Just go to Foxnation.com to find the details. All right. That's all the time we have left. Listen, we'll you see you Monday from Missouri. It's game time, everybody on board. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura is next. We'll see Monday from Missouri. Thanks for being with us. Load-Date: November 3, 2018 End of Document Five Days Until Crucial Midterm Elections; Mainstream Media, Celebrities Supporting Dems; Caravan Showdown; A Fox News Poll Shows A Map Of States Where Democrats And Republicans Lead Against Their Opponents, And It Clearly Shows Even In Other Polls That There Is No Sure Blue Wave Coming Like The Democrats First Claim That They're Going To Take Control Of Both The House And The Senate; Critics And Analysts And Even The Media Have Said It's Too Early To Call The Election But What's Clear Is That It Is Going To Be A Tight Race And A Record-Breaking Midterm Election In U.S. History Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST November 1, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7538 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Bill Hemmer, Steve Doocy, Mark Levin Guests: Dan Bongino, Mike Braun, Matt Rosendale Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Good to see you. All right. Welcome to HANNITY. At this hour, the political firestorm is now brewing tonight in our nation's capital. Democrats long predicting their blue wave. Nancy Pelosi all but guaranteeing a Democratic landslide. The liar shifty Schiff, Maxine Waters both plotting revenge tonight, real revenge. But with just five days to go until the all-important midterm elections, oh many prominent Democrats, yes, they're limping and hoping that Tuesday gets here fast enough because they're limping towards the finish line. Why? Because every race is up in the air everything's in place tonight. Plagued by corruption -- get this -- New Jersey Democrat Bob Menendez literally, it's all hands on deck scrambling to try and get him reelected in New Jersey, to save New Jersey tonight. You have far-left Florida gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum, he is facing a firestorm of controversy on top of his ongoing criminal investigation a major development as it relates to the tape we aired from Project Veritas last night. In Arizona tonight, Democratic radical Kyrsten Sinema, she's having a hard time shaking her really bizarre comments. She's literally down by seven in a brand new poll, may be suggesting if you've got a run for office, you may not want to call the people in your state crazy and maybe not say it's okay to join the enemy, the Taliban after we lose 3,000 Americans. Now, Republicans are leading in early voting numbers that's good news but as we speak the mainstream media. They've lost it. They're all in. Now 24/7 campaigning for Democratic candidates, a full-on media assault to help Nancy and Chuck. Celebrities, they're losing it. They're out in full force. Everyone on the left seeking to reclaim power at all costs. Next, Tuesday, November the 6th, everything's at stake. The good news tonight is you have the power, you can shock the world again and if you do, how priceless would that be. And by the way, also tonight, the migrant caravan gets closer and closer. You have the power to secure our borders once and for all in five days. Sit tight, buckle up, it's time for tonight's breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. The president as we speak holding another big rally tonight, this time in Missouri. He is there campaigning for now surging Republican Senate candidate Josh Hawley in his race against far-left incumbent Claire McCaskill. Let's dip in. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The choice in this election could not be more clear. The Republican agenda is the mainstream agenda of the American people. It's how we all got here the greatest movement in the history of politics in our country. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) It's about you, not about me. The Democrat agenda is the agenda of the extreme far left. They've gotten crazy, folks. They've got totally loco. (END VIDEO LCIP) HANNITY: Are there any Democrat you can think of in the country that can get crowds like that night after night after night? Interesting phenomenon. Now, for the past two years, McCaskill, she has imposed the president on every issue. She is out of touch with Missouri voting against both Supreme Court picks. She voted against the tax cuts, that's money in your pocket. She never backed the president's plan for a wall. But now, she's claiming, well, maybe President Trump is right on border security. In other words, and election week conversion, not even year. She's literally lying and caught lying to the people of Missouri. They're not stupid. "Real Clear Politics" average puts Josh Hawley up at this hour, being caught on tape basically admitting, like so many others, she's pretending in Missouri to be a moderate to win. That's not helping her. McCaskill is not the only Democrat in serious trouble tonight. In fact, Republican candidates nationwide are ahead in early voting numbers. That is a good thing because in 2016, during Trump's historic win, Republicans were actually down in the very same metric. Look at the state of New Jersey tonight. Who thought we'd be talking about New Jersey? That's a deep blue state. Scandal-plagued Democrat incumbent Senator Bob Menendez seriously now losing ground to his Republican opponent. According to a report from "The New York Times", the Democrats are scared all hands are on deck, they're all scrambling to save New Jersey. Now, to all our viewers in New Jersey tonight, this is real. Menendez can and should be defeated. You need to vote. We go to the state of Florida tonight, another scandal-plagued Democrat. Gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum facing even more serious issues. As we speak, a criminal investigation into bribery charges continues to unfold -- oh yes, the FBI guy that gave them tickets to "Hamilton". Oopsie-daisy. And now, more fallout over the undercover video we showed you broke last night right here on this program. ProjectVeritas.com showing how Gillum staffers trashed Floridians, plotted to deceive voters. Now, you get to decide for yourself. If you live in Florida, is this the guy you want as your governor? By the way, he wants to raise business taxes 40 percent. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOURNALIST: So then none of the programs that that you know people are hoping for would happen? OMAR SMITH, GILLUM CAMPAIGN STAFFER: Basically. JOURNALIST: Well, do voters know that? SMITH: Hmm? JOURNALIST: Do voters know that? SMITH: That's not for them to know. JOURNALIST: Huh? SMITH: That's not for them to know. Remember our saying, modern day fairy tales start with "once I am elected". JOURNALIST: So, are you suggesting that this is a -- we should keep this a well-kept secret? SMITH: Yes. Why wouldn't we? So, you have extreme right wingers, those are the Trump and the crazy, crazy, crazy Republicans. The progressives are the crazy, crazy, crazy Democrat. Your hipsters, your hippies. JOURNALIST: Oh, you're not a progressive? Isn't Gillum a progressive? SMITH: Gillum is a progressive. JOURNALIST: So Gillum is part of the crazy, crazy? SMITH: He is part of the crazy, crazy, crazies. The rules in Florida (EXPLETIVE DELETED) suck. JOURNALIST: Tell me about it, man. SMITH: This is a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) ass state. JOURNALIST: OK. SMITH: It's a cracker state. JOURNALIST: OK. SMITH: OK? Ask anybody outside of here. You go Port St. Lucie, Orlando, man, them crackers ain't going to let us do that (EXPLETIVE DELETED) dawg. Boy, you crazy? You have to appeal to white guilt. JOURNALIST: All right. So, how would you do that? GILLUM CAMPAIGN STAFFER: Why does it have to be white guilt? Why can't it just be -- GILLUM: Cause that's what it is. SMITH: That's what it is. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He's part of the crazy, crazy, crazy left. And by the way, he's not telling the people of Florida that. Oh and by the way, Florida, this is an F'ed up state, a cracker state. Oh you whip him up, the poor, the middle class, you have to whip him up into a frenzy in order for them to vote. Really? Well, today, the campaign had to part ways with that staffer. They didn't return our request for comments. Shocking. But if Gillum's crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy far left views, maybe it could work at fake news MSNBC. And his radical associations and his corruption aren't enough to support this guy or reasons not enough to support this guy -- remember, Floridians, his first order of business is to raise your taxes. I'm sure you're all dying for that, want to vote for that in Florida. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDREW GILLUM (D), FLORIDA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: Ninety-seven percent of businesses in my state pay no corporate taxes at all. Ninety-seven percent. Three percent of companies in the state of Florida, the wealthiest percent of companies in our state, pay the corporate tax rate. It's the same 3 percent that walked away under the Trump attacks realignment, with six point three billion dollars of our money. So, what we've said is you can keep $5.3 billion, but we want a billion of that to come into the state of Florida. The state of Florida cannot be a cheap date and think that we're going to be able to rise to the highest of our potential. We're 40th out of 50th in quality of public education. In my opinion, this is a win-win. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Florida, my prediction is, if you do vote for Andrew Gillum, you're becoming a crazy, crazy, crazy state. Anyway, if he wins you will reap all of the consequences with your paychecks. Gillum will laugh all the way to the bank, and then he will be the most radical left-wing governor in history. Ron DeSantis needs your support tonight. In Arizona, great news. Veteran war hero of 26 years, six tour deployments -- Afghanistan, Iraq -- Martha McSally, on this show last night, she has now finally opened up a significant seven-point lead in that race against Democrat Kyrsten Sinema. The radical past is now finally sinking in with the people of Arizona. Yes, she organized an event with the radical attorney for the notorious blind sheikh as we've been telling you. Once suggesting it's okay after 9/11 for Americans if they want to join the Taliban, you know, the group that wants to kill us. We the people of America. Also constantly calling the good people of Arizona, quote, crazy but kind of in a Lindsay Lohan way. And she said, of course, at her state, she wants your vote, is the meth lab of democracy. And when given a chance to actually address these remarks, no apology, none. This is amazing. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KYRSTEN SINEMA (D-AZ), U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE: As we see in the waning days of this campaign, Martha has chosen to continue running a highly negative campaign full of false attacks and lies. That's her choice. She can continue to do so if she wants. But Arizona voters will choose the person they trust to be their voice in Washington, D.C. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: She wouldn't even apologize for saying it's okay to join the Taliban. I guess the truth hurts there. People of Arizona are waking up tonight. And while Republicans appear to have a serious edge in the Senate, the House, a different story. Dozens of must- win Republican held districts are now toss-ups tonight. Nancy Pelosi, she's predicting victory. In five days, if Republicans lose control of the House, let me point out to you what will happen. That's right. Nancy Pelosi will be your speaker. The biggest liar in America, Adams Shifty Schiff, he will be the House Intel Committee chairman. Endless investigations of nothing. He's already bragging about his plans to ramp up these investigations into phony Trump- Russia collusion which has pretty much now been debunked. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: Republicans walked away from the investigation. The Democratic minority has continued and we've been bringing witnesses in and we've been learning more, and that work won't stop when we take the majority, but we will be able to get answers the Republicans were unwilling to pursue, records that the Republicans wouldn't ask for. The question though that I don't know whether Mueller has been able to answer because I don't know whether he's been given the license to look into it is, were the Russians laundering money through the Trump Organization? And that will be a very high priority to get an answer to for the reason that if they were doing this, it's not only a crime but it's something provable, something that the Russians could hold over the head of the president of the United States. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh my God. He's been saying the same thing for two years. Anyway -- and by the way, he doesn't care about Hillary's bought and paid for phony Russian dossier. Yes, the one that they used to commit a fraud on a FISA court. Then, of course, there's impeach 45, Maxine Waters. Democrats win, she will likely chair the very important Financial Services Committee and let's just say in her own words, she sounds like she's out for revenge, too, just like shifty Schiff. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: I will be the first African American, the first woman to chair the powerful Financial Services Committee. (CHEERS) That's all the Wall Street, that's all the insurance company, that's all the banks. What am I going to do to you, what I'm going to do to you is fair -- I'm going to do to you what you did to us. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I'm going to do to you what you did to us that's why all House races mattered tonight. Now, regardless, I'll say this -- let not your heart be troubled. FOX News contributor, former speaker of the house, Newt Gingrich, out with a brand new piece tonight. He is throwing cold water on the Democrats' blue wave predictions. According to the former speaker, Republicans will likely hold on to the Senate and gain seats and he says maybe even the House. But that's going to be decided by you, we the people. Of course as pointed out in this very insightful piece, the U.S. Senate controls judicial confirmations. Meaning if Republicans control the Senate, the president's agenda, he argues and his right, will remain intact. Now, of course, the left is doing anything and everything in their power to stop the president's successful agenda and all Republicans across the country. And as per usual, predictably, Hollywood's biggest know-nothing liberals they're out there hitting the campaign trail for Democrats. Oprah, oh she's out there stumping for Georgia's totally unqualified gubernatorial candidate in Florida, Jimmy Buffett, he's still playing. He's performing at a campaign event for Gillum and Nelson. And on TV, many other celebrities there telling you exactly how they want you to vote because they're celebrities they always know everything. They're right. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, POLITICAL AD) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If somebody asked you, what do you care about, what would you say? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Losing your health care. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Equal pay. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Equal rights. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What really honestly matters to you? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Look, if you're worried about your pre-existing conditions. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If you can't take another school shooting. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What matters to you. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Civility. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Kindness. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Dignity. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Freedom of the press. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Freedom of speech. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All of our freedoms. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do they matter. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Serious. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Seriously. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do they matter to you? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Then vote. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If you care about immigration. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Children being taken away at the border. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If gun reform matters. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Climate change. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Health care for young. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: For old matters. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: Then vote. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If basic human rights matter, then vote. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If women's rights really are human rights. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: Then vote. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't lose hope. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Vote as if it matters because it does. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Get out and vote, it matters. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: On November 6th, we're all in this together. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: They kind of forgot that they want open borders. They kind of forgot that they liked Obamacare and supported him, and he was the worst economic president in our lifetime. They never mention due process and the presumption of innocence, or the Constitution, or lower taxes. That's right. Obama raised them. Now, of course, far left Hollywood liberals are not the only sycophants supporting the Democratic cause. Tonight, the biggest cheerleaders of the left of long been members of the mainstream media. But tonight, wow, they're up in their game. Some of their best anti-Trump rhetoric ever is getting rolled out and out of control, especially true, poor morning liberal Joe. I think the election is really taking a toll on poor Mika. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKA BRZEZINSKI, MSNBC HOST: Our democracy is under attack with bombs targeting Trump's enemies and shootings in synagogues by a nationalist imitating the president's racist rants. The rhetoric of this racist, heartless, soulless man will lead to more violence. Yes, I said that. This is a so-called leader with no shame. He doesn't care. He's got no sense of decency, no sense of duty, and no limits -- if you want a slight check on this man and his unrelenting race to the finish year to make sure he can continue destroying this country, you might want to vote all D. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You know, just imagine for a moment, liberals like to imagine John Lennon, just imagine for a moment what's going to happen if the Republicans kept the House and the Senate, they're going to lose it. That's almost worth the price of admission. I know that trying to scare you into voting Democrats in the midterms and, of course, Howard Dean was far worse, actually sick celebrating the Democrats momentum surrounding the shooting in the synagogue in Pittsburgh and I'm not making that up. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HOWARD DEAN (D), FORMER VERMONT GOVERNOR: The Democrats are trying to basically run against a president. He's got a very powerful message of hate basically, which can be effective at times that like this when the nation has been turned upside down by this president. So, you know, I'm pretty optimistic actually. I do think there is a tendency towards voting Democratic. I think Democrats are a lot more energized, particularly I hate to say this, after the shootings in Pittsburgh. That's pretty sick, pretty ugly, pretty twisted. Look, we have to do take everything Howard Dean though says with a grain of salt, everyone. He's not exactly known for being of sound mind around election time. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DEAN: We're going to South Carolina and Oklahoma and Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico. We're going to California and Texas and New York. We're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan, and then we're going to Washington, D.C. to take back the White House. Yay! (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. I guess we can expect more of that if the Democrats big blue wave doesn't exactly play out on November 6th. Just imagine that. Now, tonight, while the media the left working extra hard vilifying Republicans and the president -- well, he's focused on a serious situation at our southern border. And at this hour tonight, the migrant caravan is pushing even closer to our southern border. As a response, President Trump is now sending up to 15,000 troops to help secure that border. The first act of duty military actually arrived today in Texas. Earlier today, the president had this very clear warning to those marching towards our borders with no intention of respecting our sovereignty, our rule of law and our borders. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: At this very moment, large, well-organized caravans of migrants are marching toward our southern border. Some people call it an invasion. It's like an invasion. They have violently overrun the Mexican border. You saw that two days ago. These are tough people in many cases. A lot of young men, strong men, and a lot of men that maybe we don't want in our country. But again we'll find that out through the legal process. These illegal caravans will not be allowed into the United States and they should turn back now because they're wasting their time. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: John Podesta's Center for American Progress actually saying, don't talk about immigration, just don't talk about it, just you know change the topic. That's what they're saying. Without a doubt our immigration system is broken. The situation is dire at the border. 2018 alone, over 50,000 unaccompanied minors have been apprehended crossing illegally, a hundred and seventy one percent increase from 2010. This year, over 17,000 known criminals have been apprehended at the border, along with over a thousand dangerous gang members. 2017, over 2,000 pounds of fentanyl was seized by ICE, enough fentanyl to kill every single solitary American. And a stunning new data from the Center for Immigration Studies is showing tonight that each illegal immigrant that crossed the border costs you the American taxpayers $70,000, and Trump is vowing to take a stand against this illegal immigration free-for-all, and he's pushing to end birthright citizenship chain migration and build the border wall. He's already spent three and a half billion, he needs 20 more. Sadly, Democratic policies, open border, sanctuary cities and states created this crisis at our southern border. There wouldn't be a caravan if we had the wall. And that means, everybody would be safe on both sides and the wall can have a door. Those same Democratic politicians literally put their heads in the sand. They're told not to talk about it, just like they don't talk about impeachment. Now, it's the president's job to clean up their mess, protect the American people. Five days from now, you have an opportunity and a duty to send a message. You can shock the world. Imagine what its going to be like and some of these news networks, I can handle a win or a loss, but they'll go nuts. You'll watch their heads explode on TV. Hollywood will lose it. Straight ahead, we're going to look at the "Hannity" big board tonight. Our friend Bill Hemmer will go over all of these important races that will decide the balance of power in the House and the Senate. Steve Doocy, Dan Bongino, and the great one Mark Levin all coming up. Please stay with us. HANNITY: All right. The "Hannity" big board is back. And joining us now with the very latest, where things stand in key midterm races -- BILL HEMMER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: (INAUDIBLE) aren't you? Aren't you? HANNITY: What? That's the "Hannity" big board. HEMMER: I thought was the Bill board. HANNITY: That's my big board. HEMMER: Because it's your hour, you're right. Sean, I need 30 minutes, by the way. (LAUGHTER) HEMMER: I want to say, there are a thousand stories for Tuesday night. I mean, really more than we count. HANNITY: Listen, this is fun. It's super bowl. All right. Take it away. Show us what we got. HEMMER: OK. So here's what we tried to do to viewers to try and tell the story a little bit. Where was the president tonight? He was in the state of Missouri and you know what's going on there. The Democrat Claire McCaskill and the Republican Josh Hawley, our FOX poll came out last night. It's just razor tight, 45 percent to 45 percent. This is what I think is interesting about the reason why the president made this trip to Missouri tonight. Go back two years. These were the results. He won the state by 19 points. There's a lot of red on that state right, Sean? There's just a few blue counties, but this is where the president has rally tonight. This Columbia, Missouri, Boone County, you see Hillary Clinton wanted by about seven points. But look at all the red surrounding here and watch this number here from 46.8 percent, it's 72 percent, its 73 percent, it's 76 percent, its 71.9 percent. You get the idea. And the president has said himself that this is a base election. You got to turn out your base if you want to have a chance and that's really what a lot of these this travel is about. Here's the what-if scenario for the Senate. A lot of people know this right now, just as a reminder. This is our base for Tuesday night, 51 Republicans, 49 Democrats. We'll see how the map fills in. That's on the Senate side. On the House side, I know you're keenly interested in these toss-up races. Here's what we have at the moment. This could change but these are districts that we consider coin tosses for Tuesday night. Might go to 32, might come down to 25, but right now, it's 29. So, what's the difference between Virginia 8th and California 10th? Now, this is not true for every district here, but this is what Republicans are up against on Tuesday night. A lot of retirements, a lot of open seats, a lot of districts were the Republicans won but Hillary Clinton won on the presidential level. And so we have to throw that now under the and find out on a geographical sense what we think could happen come Tuesday night. So, we broke it up in the region. I'll give you an example here, Sean. I can give you countless examples of where the scenario that I just laid out is true all across the country. This is Virginia 10, this is Barbara Comstock, this is outside of Washington, D.C., and a real tough race here with Jennifer Wexton. These were the presidential results two years ago in that district. Hillary Clinton won by 10 points. So, you see what some of these candidates are up against. That's Washington D.C. Take you down the Florida Keys, similar scenario. You see Hillary Clinton won by about 16, 17 percent. I can take you out into the plains out in Kansas, right? This is Kansas district number three. This is Kevin Yoder, the Republican, and a race against Sharice Davids, the Democrat. Two years ago, Hillary Clinton won just by a margin here, about four thousand votes, about 1.2 percent on the margin. But this is another example and you go out to California too and I think this is very, very important for our viewers to remember, and all the folks running across the country. Poll closings in California are 11:00 Eastern Time on Tuesday night. We have eight toss-up districts in California alone. If the House is really that close, in the seven of eight, Hillary Clinton won the district two years ago. So, you see now what's on the line. And just one last thought here, Sean, this is where we were two years ago. State by state, presidential results when Donald Trump stunned the world. And we're going to see on Tuesday night how are these voters he attracted two years ago, how many are still with them in 2018. So -- HANNITY: All right. Pretty amazing. If I look at the Senate, I would also say I think Florida is a toss-up right now. It's dead even. HEMMER: OK. HANNITY: And Josh Hawley is pulling ahead. Marsha Blackburn's got a nice lead now in Tennessee. Kyrsten Sinema, she's down a lot in Arizona. Dean Heller is holding up in Nevada. That's an important Senate race. HEMMER: Are you doing the math in your head while you're doing this? Because I'm trying to -- try to guess. HANNITY: Yes. Well, then we can go in Montana with the libertarian pulling out, that now is a race that is in play which we will go. We have the Republican candidate on tonight. Heidi Heitkamp is down by double digits. That's a pickup in North Dakota. HEMMER: Hang on. Hang on. Pick up in North Dakota. Now you're at 52, 48. What else did you say? HANNITY: Well, I went through the wall. I went to Tennessee. (CROSSTALK) HEMMER: All right. Tennessee stays. Missouri would be-- HANNITY: Nevada. Texas that Ted Cruz is going to win. HEMMER: Nevada would stay. What happens in Arizona? HANNITY: OK. But when did we ever heard of a person running for the Senate that calls everyone in her state crazy, the met lab a democracy. And she says it's OK to join the Taliban after 9/11. HEMMER: I'm not voting in Arizona but you're saying Martha McSally win. So now you are at 53, 47. HANNITY: By the way, now you understand why they never want me on election night. HEMMER: I got you. Is that your projection for Tuesday night? HANNITY: My prediction to which state? HEMMER: In all of them. You can predict-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: My prediction is Marsha Blackburn. My prediction is Josh Hawley. My prediction is Dean Heller. My prediction is Martha McSally. My prediction is Heitkamp loses. Joe Donnelly if people in Indiana don't buy vote libertarian that can be one, and Tester can lose in Montana now that the libertarian pulled out. HEMMER: What happened in Florida? HANNITY: I'll throw it up for grabs. Right now, up for grabs. HEMMER: OK. I'm going to keep you at 54, 46. HANNITY: That's where I am. HEMMER: We see if you feel the same way tomorrow night. HANNITY: OK. Bill Hemmer, thank you. HEMMER: Nice to see you, Sean. HANNITY: When we watching on on election I'll be home drinking heavily, depending either celebrating or in misery. One of the other. Joining us now, author -- I can't believe Steve Doocy sells a cookbook three weeks before the election. And I love him. And the worse part he puts me on page 184. He put Brian and Ainsley on page one and two. STEVE DOOCY, FOX NEWS CO-HOST: Listen, you should be happy because your recipe is in the holiday chapter and now we're November were talking turkey. This cookbook is the best turkey you've ever had in your life. And then the Sean Hannity corned beef of course. HANNITY: Yes, put me at the end of the book, and you know, in the credit section somewhere. DOOCY: Star. HANNITY: Appendix. And we have NRATV former Secret Service agent, by the way, he has a bestselling book as well, Dan Bongino. DOOCY: It's a good book. HANNITY: OK. Dan, let's take a look at those races. Do you agree with my senate predictions? DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: Yes. I think your Senate predictions are spot on. But, Sean, I think -- I think Rick Scott takes it in Florida. Listen. Nobody knows who Bill Nelson is, Sean. You know, I jokingly said last night, I live in Florida down here, I spent all my time here, obviously. People think he is Ben Nelson from Nebraska, the courthouse (Inaudible) guy. Nobody has any idea who this is Bill Nelson. HANNITY: It's true. BONGINO: He has very little legislative record to run on. Rick Scott, I think did an admirable job with the disastrous hurricane up in the Panhandle. I think Florida, I think Rick Scott has got a darn good chance. And I think Ron DeSantis pulls it out too. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I'm agreeing-- BONGINO: I think there is a massive under vote in the polls for these two guys. HANNITY: I think for Rick Scott. And also, we had Ron DeSantis. This tape was devastating. This Project Veritas tape on Andrew Gillum. Steve, I know you are covering it every morning. On a serious note. I think we look good, conservatives and Republicans. If you don't want speak -- speaker of the house Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Schumer. DOOCY: Right. HANNITY: Things look better in the Senate. I think Bill Hemmer makes a lot of good appoints. Forty-five retirements. That's a lot. Headwinds against, you know, look Bill Clinton got crushed in '94. Newt became the speaker first time for 40 years; 2010 Obama crushed in this first midterm. DOOCY: Well, think about why there are so many retirements this time around is because a year ago, if the election would have been held a year ago it would've been a gigantic blue tsunami. Remember, repeal and replace that the Republicans had promise for a very long time that didn't get passed. The president's approval rating was not where it is today. And we were not to the point where the tax cut for Americans was going to go through. HANNITY: Yes. DOOCY: Fast forward to today and now the president has got ratings and tax cut-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The Kavanaugh effect, the caravan effect. DOOCY: Sure. HANNITY: The mob rule effect. And then I would add one other thing. Are you better off than you were two years ago? DOOCY: See. I think that is perhaps is tactical mistake of the Republicans. They should've been playing on the economy because the Democrats have brilliantly played the healthcare card. In the last year they-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How can they play the healthcare card when they gave us Obamacare? DOOCY: Listen, because. HANNITY: Keep your doctor and plan and save money? DOOCY: Because in the last year when the Republicans did the tax cut they took away the individual mandate. HANNITY: That's true. DOOCY: And it gave the democrats the argument, you know, they took away the individual mandate, what are they going to take away from you next? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. I got to run. DOOCY: They don't have a single plan, they don't have a five-point plan. HANNITY: Predictions? DOOCY: They just think that people are going to wind up voting for them because of that. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Bongino, prediction? BONGINO: We hold the House by two to three seats and we pick up four to five seats in the Senate guaranteed. HANNITY: Steve? DOOCY: If I had a magic eight ball I would shake it and it would say ask again later. HANNITY: You're totally whipping out. I gave you my set of predictions-- (CROSSTALK) BONGINO: Come on! Doocy, get on the record. HANNITY: I tell people what I really believe. DOOCY: The Republicans will hold the Senate. HANNITY: And as of tonight, Republicans on paper are down five in the House. That means you better take it seriously. When we come back, we'll get the great one Mark Levin's predictions for the mid-terms and his take on the state of the country. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now, he is the host of CRTV's Levin TV. The host of Life, Liberty, and Levin. Wow. You had big ratings this weekend tight here on the Fox News Channel. I call him the great one, Mark Levin. We missed you a couple of weeks and we're glad you are back, my friend. Let's talk the election. MARK LEVIN, FOX NEWS HOST: Thank you. Well, you know, it's time for we the people to stand up for ourselves, for our families, for our faith, for our country, for our party, and for our president. You know, the media had interposed themselves in this election, Sean. We're actually fighting the media. We're fighting the Democrats, we're fighting academia, we're fighting Hollywood and all the rest. And 64 percent of the voters say the press has done more to divide the country. More people think the press has divided the country than the president of the United Sates. And I'm going to tell you why. The word Hitler is very popular with the press. With Joe Scarborough, the word white supremacy is very popular over there at CNN. The word Stalin is now starting to pick up. They consider those of us who support this president and support an American agenda as Nazis. They referred to us to as a racist, as white supremacist. Every time there's some horrific event they're trying to pin it on us, pin in on our president, pin on our party. It's really time America to push back. Enough is enough. We cannot turn any part of this government over to these radical hard-core Democrats and their mouthpieces in the media. And I want to give you a few examples here. They talk about the president his tone and the relationship to violence. The president hasn't caused any violence. When anti-fa is out there beating up people the Marxist militia the media are very passive, rarely say anything. When Bill Clinton pardoned the FAO and terrorists who murdered four people and injured 44 other people. I don't remember them saying Bill Clinton was contributing to a violent tone in this country. When Barack Obama commuted the leader of that organization who never repented, I don't remember them bringing that up. When Barack Obama befriended Bill Ayres and Bernadine Dorn of the Weather Underground and the SDS, the bombers domestic terrorist, I remember anybody talking about him and violence and the tone of violence. Do you? Obama opens an embassy in Cuba, a genocidal police state. He celebrated. Donald Trump moves our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, the capital of Israel and he's attacked by fools like Steve Schmidt over on MSNBC. Now let's talk about immigration briefly. Dwight Eisenhower. He is not considered a white supremacist, does he? He is not considered a racist, does he? Dwight Eisenhower when he became president of the United States he created a program called operation wetback. That's not me. That was him. Operation wetback. What was that? He ordered the military to round up 1.3 million illegal aliens and deport them. And that's exactly what he did and he was supported by the Democratic Party too. I'll go further. Nineteen sixties. Cesar Chavez, the founder of the United Farm Workers Union. He ordered his members at night to watch the southern border and report illegal aliens coming over the border to then the INS. Nineteen sixty-nine Chavez, Ralph Abernathy, who'd been the confidant of Martin Luther King in 1969 and Walter Mondale. I don't believe he was a racist. They led protests on the southern border against illegal immigration. I'll go on. The press says Donald Trump is threatening freedom of the press. How so? By calling them out? By challenging them? By exposing them? John Adams, one of our greatest founders, put in place the Sedition Act. The Sedition Act. He actually put some newspapers out of business and put some journalist in prison. Abraham Lincoln put out an executive order. They shut down almost 300 newspapers, and put journalists and editors in prison. And not -- not only that. The great progressive leader Woodrow Wilson. He had the Sedition Act of 1918, did the same thing, put some journalist in prison and imprisoned some of his opponent. Donald Trump hasn't done anything like this. He's not rounding up illegal immigrants who are in this country by the hundreds of thousands. He's not shutting down newspapers. He's not putting journalists in prison, yet they refer to him as Hitler and Stalin. And then we have this policy where we separate children from their parents to come here illegally not because we want to put them in cages like Obama did, but because we want to protect these children from coyotes, from kidnappers. You got to sort them out to figure out who's who since they're here illegally. And they said, well, he's putting them in internment camps. Actually, it was Franklin Roosevelt who actually put Japanese Americans and Americans of Japanese descent in internment camps. They don't call him Hitler. They don't call him Stalin or anything of the sort. And I'll even go here. They attack our president. They say a womanizer. They bring the Stormy Daniels in front of TV left and right, left and right. This president has been our president. He's conducted himself in the Oval Office with great acumen. Great acumen. People are laughing. JFK was having affairs constantly in the Oval Office in the White House with a niece German spy, with a mob boss girlfriend, with a 17-year-old intern and he was outdone by LBJ. We don't talk about that stuff. How come? Because our goal you see is to trash the president of the United States. The media in this country. America is campaigning against you, campaigning against your values, campaigning against your virtue, against the declaration against the Constitution. And you have a rare opportunity every now and then to show yourself to stand up and say we're not putting up with this anymore. We're going to protect our country. We're going to protect our values, our institutions, our party, and our president, and most of all ourselves. You're sick of being called Nazis, you're sick of being called racists. You're sick of being called white supremacist then you need to vote. And you need to vote now if you have early voting and you need to vote Tuesday. And you need to be on your own precinct camp and bring out four, five, or six people and make sure you vote. Because here's the deal. If more of us vote, we win. If less of them vote, they lose. HANNITY: Mark Levin. By the way, I want to say publicly our condolences. I knew your dad. He recently passed away. A great man. Thank you, my friend for being with us. LEVIN: Thank you. I appreciate it. HANNITY: Don't miss it. mark's show, big show this weekend. Life, Liberty, and Levin. You don't want to miss it, Sunday night right here on the Fox News Channel. When we come back, two important Senate candidates. One, Mike Braun, Indiana. Matt Rosendale in Montana. They can both win. We'll explain when we get back. They'll join us. HANNITY: Just five days away from this crucially important midterm elections. Tonight, we are featuring two very important key Senate races. They could tip the balance of power. Joining us live from the great state of Montana, GOP Senate candidate Matt Rosendale, and from the great state of Indiana, the Hoosier state, GOP Senate candidate Mike Braun. Mike. I hear there's going to be a big rally tomorrow. The president, if my dates are right. MIKE BRAUN, SENATORIAL CANDIDATE, (R) INDIANA: He's coming in tomorrow and then. Yes. He is coming in tomorrow to Indianapolis and then next Monday, the Fort Wayne. HANNITY: Well, two important. Listen, both of you were in the same predicament until yesterday. And Matt, I'll throw it to you. You had a libertarian in your race and something happened that caused him to drop out of that race. And clearly Jon Tester has been in a steady Schumer vote. He doesn't represent the values of Montana. Bottom line. MATT ROSENDALE, SENATORIAL CANDIDATE, (R) MONTANA: No, he does not, Sean. And I'll tell you something. This backfire on him. Jon Tester's dark money allies sent out an illegal mailer and what it did was help us to unify the libertarians and the independents and the Republicans across the state Montana, although it came no shock to us because Jon has been the recipient of so much financing from the special interest and lobbyists. He is the number one recipient of contributions from lobbyist in the nation Sean, in the entire nation more than Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But did he vote for the tax cut, did he vote for Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch. ROSENDALE: Yes. HANNITY: Because I think that Montana the vote is so heavily Trump would have like those things. ROSENDALE: They would really like those things. I've been traveling around the state and we are seeing a dramatic expansion of our economy. And jobs being created because as a direct result of those tax cuts that Jon Tester did vote against and he voted against Gorsuch, and he voted against Kavanaugh. And yet, he embraces the idea of open borders and sanctuary cities and that is not aligned with the ideals of the people of Montana. HANNITY: Mike Braun, let me go back to you because you don't have the luxury that your soon-to-be hopefully colleague had with the libertarians are wrapping up. You still have a lead. I love libertarians. I really do. I have civil libertarian streak to me in some ways. The problem is they are siphoning away votes for you and that only helps Joe Donnelly. So, I'm asking my libertarian friends in Indiana to vote for you. Joe Donnelly. He also didn't vote for either the Supreme Court justice. He didn't vote for the tax, did he? BRAUN: No. It's basically the same thing as tester and both of our races have been dominated by Chuck Schumer's PACs that pour in all this negative advertising. And Sean, it's because the Democratic Party what is their message, sell us more government that they already aren't willing to pay for and shovel at that debt onto our kids and grandkids. So, I think it's all coming home to roost across the country. You cannot win these races that are trying to tear down your competition, especially when you got bad voting records like both Tester and Joe Donnelly. HANNITY: You know, it's amazingly. I'm watching both of you. These are two very red states that have Democrats that are totally and completely out of touch with the values of their own state. We are going to be watching very closely. How long is Jon Tester now been in the Senate, Matt? ROSENDALE: Too long, Sean, too long. He is been too wrong for too long. He's been in for 12 years and he stood there 12 years ago and told folks he wouldn't be encumbered by special interest. He said he would. He complained about reckless spending and has increased the national debt from eight trillion to over 21 trillion at the exact same time that I was cutting costs at the state level. He is completely out of touch with the folks of Montana. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Mike, final-- ROSENDALE: (Inaudible) in Washington, D.C. HANNITY: Mike Braun? ROSENDALE: And he put Montana in his rearview mirror. HANNITY: And, Mike Braun, let me go back to you. If the people go out and vote for you they will have their values reflected in Washington, will they not? BRAUN: No doubt about it. And Joe Donnelly from the time he get to Notre Dame got his law degree he's been running for office and been a career politician and has voted against Hoosier values for the 12 years he's been in Congress and then Senate. And you can count on me to reflect-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I want to wish both of you. BRAUN: -- Hoosier values when I become the next senator. HANNITY: Mike Braun, we're wishing you the best. We're going to be watching Indiana and Montana both winnable states. Both would be pickups huge for the country. When we come back, more highlights the presidents rally from earlier tonight in Missouri, straight ahead. HANNITY: So, in his rally tonight in Missouri, President Trump pointed out key differences between Democrats and Republicans choice election. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Republicans are the party of all Americans. We welcome citizens from all works of life and embrace freedom of thought, freedom of speech, and freedom of everything else. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: The democrats are the party of rigid ideology and total conformity. They demand absolute agreement and they dismiss the mean and demonize anyone who questions their radical ideas. Did you ever see anything like what's going on? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You decide. Four nights. Let not your heart be troubled. Load-Date: November 2, 2018 End of Document Democrats' Strong Effort Of Trying To Brand President Trump As A Racist As They Lose Their Hold On African-American Community; President Trump's Statement That Illegals Can No Longer Claim The Reason Of Asylum To Enter The United States; Close Congressional Races Examined; Polling Indicates Close Races in Montana, Arizona, and New Jersey; Analysts Assess Effectiveness of Midterm Political Ads Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST November 1, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7379 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Kimberley Strassel, Niger Innis, Jonathan Harris, Art Del Cueto, Pam Owens, Tom Bevan, Doug Schoen, Frank Luntz, Victor Davis Hanson Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: They demand absolute agreement and they dismiss, demean, and demonize anyone who questions their radical ideas. Did you ever see anything like what is going on? (END VIDEO CLIP) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: You decide in four nights. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham, I have a question for you. So -- LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Yes. HANNITY: -- just for a second. I know conventional wisdom says, all right, Republicans will pick up seats in the House and they may lose the Senate -- they may lose the House and pick up seats in the senate, and I'm just thinking, just imagine for a moment all the media, if Republicans win it all. I am just, you know, I'm an optimistic guy. I don't know what is going to happen. I can take victory or defeat. I can't imagine how unhinged they will be. It's worth the price of admission just for that. INGRAHAM: Well, Sean, they will be wearing what I am bearing. Black. Remember the day after the election that was all black, they all wore black. They look lik they lost their bestfriend. It's an election. You will get -- the country goes one way then it goes another way, then we figure it out. It's going to be OK. HANNITY: No, no, no. I want to win this one. INGRAHAM: We're going to take a breath. HANNITY: Just to see their faces. By the way, where are you? INGRAHAM: I'm in Phoenix, Sean, because we're covering this McSally race out here. HANNITY: Yes, she's great. INGRAHAM: Sinema late surge. They got planes over me. It's like -- this is fun. We're going to hit all that -- HANNITY: But I got to tell you one thing. I don't want to take your time. By the way, according to Sinemma you are among crazy people in a Lindsay Lohan way. The meth lab of democracy, oh, and by the way, it's OK to fight with the Taliban. Good luck to Krysten Sinema. INGRAHAM: God bless her. Those old tapes are the gifts that keep on giving here in Arizona. So I think the people have taken a second, third, and fourth look at Ms. Sinema. So, I think it's going to go a good way for McSally, but covering this spot (ph). HANNITY: All right. I'm glad you're out there. We'll be watching all night. Have a great show. INGRAHAM: All right, Sean. Thanks so much. Great show. I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE live from the border state of Arizona tonight. We have so much to get through. I don't think an hour is going to do it, but we have to fit it into an hour so stay right there. States like this are not just front and center ahead of next Tuesday's mid-terms because of a close senate race. They resonate nationally because the issue of immigration has come to the fore once again. Since President Trump has refocused attention on the issue, of course he is being labeled a racist. You just heard him refer to that in his speech tonight in Missouri. And tonight, Hispanic border patrol agent and a family member of a victim of illegal immigrant crime will be here to react. Plus, where the polls stand now and what ads are actually working the most with voters. The men who know the answer is Tom Bevin, Doug Shawn and Frank Luntz are all here. I cannot wit to talk to them. Everything you need to know in this raining days of this midterms. And Democrats, by the way, have long decried dark money and dirty tricks and politics. They are always bemoaning that. Well we're going to layout tonight how they are shamelessly engaging in both this mid-term season. It's off the charts. But first, race to the bottom. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. The better Donald Trump does among African-American voters, the more race obsessed the Democrats and their shameless media enablers become. When young African-Americans leaders were recently invited to the White House by the president, they were instantly derided by the left. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AL SHARPTON, PRESIDENT, NATIONAL ACTION NETWORK: It was not a summit. It was a make America great rally. The use of young blacks as props which really is an insult to them. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, insult to them Al? Really? Aren't those racist sentiments by the way? Isn't it wrong to lump people into political camps based on their skin color or believe that only authentic African-Americans are the ones who despise Donald Trump? And I thought stereotyping people based on their skin color was the definition of racism. And why should a reverend be speaking on these terms at all by the way? I think what's going on here is they are worried about their prospects. And so now the left are engaged in a coordinated effort to brand Donald Trump as a racist. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We have a white nationalist president who is a threat to American democracy. DON LEMON, CNN HOST: People know when you say nationalist and smart people know what that is a dog whistle for. That's a wink and nod to white nationalism. EDDIE GLAUDE CHAIR, CENTER FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDIES: But this man doubled down after 11 beautiful people were shot and killed while worshipping. For what? Some ideal of whiteness that Donald Trump represents and spews out of his mouth every single day. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Yes, and that's what Donald Trump thinks about every morning when he wakes up. Whiteness, come on. You are better than that. And then there is this tiresome claim. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARAH SILVERMAN, COMEDIAN: Trump knows the only way that they can energize their base is through fear. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I thought Sarah Silverman was supposed to be funny. Oh, well, really? Talk about fear, fear mongering. What was Oprah Winfrey doing in Atlanta today if not fear mongering? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OPRAH WINFREY, CELEBRITY: I am here today because of the men and because of the women who were lynched, who were humiliated, who were discriminated against, who were suppressed, who were repressed and oppressed. And I refuse to let their sacrifices be in vain. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Got to hand it to Oprah. She is a great speaker, but I kind of I liked her better when she was giving way Toyotas and refrigerators. To try to tie the candidacy of the Georgia Republican gubernatorial candidate Brian Kemp to the scourge of racism and even lynchings? Come on, Oprah. It's dehumanizing. It's completely baseless. It's totally cruel and again, I say, you are much better than that and your are much bigger than that. And I'll also say this to Oprah Winfrey, how is this living our best life now? This kind of broad brush race baiting desensitizes us to the real racists out there who should be condemned and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law when they commit heinous crimes and use violence to hurt and maim people of a different race. By the way, what did Kemp ever do aside from running against a black opponent? Nothing. For a taste of true racial obsession and outright racism, hear what a few prominent Democrats said this week that didn't get all that much attention. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KARA SWISHER, JOURNALIST: What do you think of Cory Booker and his comment, and fell free -- HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I adore him. SWISHER: No, what do you think about him saying kick them in the shins essentially -- start to get to that kind of political -- CLINTON: Well, that was Eric Holder. SWISHER: Eric Holder, oh, Eric Holder, sorry. CLINTON: I know they all look alike. SWISHER: No they don't SEN. JOE DONNELLY (D), INDIANA: Our state director is Indian-American, but he does an amazing job. Our director of all constituent services, she's African-American, but she does an even more incredible job than you could ever imagine. (EN VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I still can't believe that comment. All right, look, come on, it's all race all the time. And in Florida, Project Veritas caught a staffer of a Democratic candidate for governor, Andrew Gillum, saying that they are saying this about Gillum's promises and about the state itself. OMAR SMITH, GILLUM CAMPAIGN STAFFER: Fairy tales in the modern day begin with once I am elected. This is a (BLEEP) up ass state. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. SMITH: It's a cracker state. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, now, imagine if a conservative staffer for Ron DeSantis were saying something similar. It would be a wall-to-wall news day and night and he and the candidate would be labeled as racist. And a pathetic and a transparent double standard is what we just showed you because you know they are really not going to cover that. That's just some fringe guy making a video. Democrats like Gillum and Stacey Abrams in Georgia are featured in endless puff pieces across all media. And most of these pieces focus on their race as their biggest selling point for the candidacy. OK, I assume they are about more than that. They have views and they have ideas. But it's always about race and race for the most part alone. But black Republicans like John James running for senate I Michigan or Omar Qudrat, a Muslim Republican running for congress for California's 52nd district, they are hardly covered at all. So I guess race doesn't matter if you are a Republican. It's not historic at all. The reason again for this leftist race baiting, Trump's policies are working for African-Americans and the results are now beginning to come in. Democrats sense it. They are losing their grip on the black community. Black unemployment is down. Black entrepreneurism is up. And the polls are moving. Check out this new Harvard Harris poll. A year ago, President Trump's approval rating among black Americans was a paltry 10 percent. Today, it's almost triple at 29 percent. And look at this, a year ago, only 17 percent of African-Americans approve of the president's handling of the economy. Today, 40 percent approve of his economic prowess. And this may be the most revealing number of all. On the issue of immigration, 15 percent of black Americans like Trump's approach last year, not great. This year, again, it's almost doubled, 29 percent approve of Trump's immigration stance. My friends, you might not like everything he tweets, I get that. But Donald Trump is standing up for all Americans. He doesn't care about your skin color. He doesn't care about your ethnicity or what religion you practice. He is about America and that is a good thing. And back to Obama for a moment because he is campaigning all across the country. Aside from his incredible example of being -- he's a great father and himself a historic figure. You have to ask this question, what did Obama actually do, substantively do for black America? African-American wages during his eight years were flat. Obamacare was a complete and total disaster. And he did little to protect the black community from the competition of cheap, illegal labor. Hardly talked about it. Do not let the race hucksters convince you to embrace the failure of the past. For the Democrats, this is not about protecting minorities. It's about regaining raw political power even if it means turning American against American and stopping the economic revival we've seen, the best I think we've seen in decades across all races and all ethnicities. And that's THE ANGLE. Joining me to discuss, Kimberley Strassel is a Fox News contributor and editorial board member of the "Wall Street Journal" and Niger Innis is a civil rights activist and leader of the Congress for Racial Equality and Jonathan Harris is a liberal analyst. Niger, let's start with you. How effective do you see these strategies in winning over African-American voters in the midterms? Let's start with what the Democrats are doing. Trump's a white nationalist. He cares about whiteness. He's a racist, embracing racist policies. The drum beat across all media today. NIGER INNIS, CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST: Well, in the past it's been what they go to in their playbook. They can't talk about the economy and the record low black and brown unemployment. I mean, historic lows since we have been recording these numbers. So, they go to their dirty bag of tricks and they pull out the race card. You know, I've been calling it for close to a couple of decades and my father, the great Roy Innis, before me. You know, he called it racial hustling. And the problem is and the reason we take this posture is we come from a civil rights organization, the Congress of Racial Equality where, you know, you want to talk about real voter suppression. You know, three of our boys, (inaudible) and Goodman, they became (inaudible) to the civil rights revolution, were murdered. They lost their lives. They didn't have to show an I.D. They lost their lives. They were murdered by the Klan in Mississippi for registering people to vote. After reconstruction -- INGRAHAM: But Nigel, right here what's happening today, Nigel, we have made no progress. INNIS: That's nonsense. INGRAHAM: There's almost no progress because Donald Trump is president. INNIS: That's an absurdity and it spits on the grave of all of those brave whites and blacks that gave their lives for the civil rights revolution, for the civil war 100 years before then. And it really sends the wrong message to young blacks, young whites, Hispanics, Asian-Americans that they actually live in a country because of our constitution and because of the passage of 14th amendment, that is the freest liberty embracing country not only in the world but in the history of the world. INGRAHAM: Jonathan, we have some interesting races across the country. I know you disagree with what Nigel just said. JONATHAN HARRIS, LIBERAL ANALYTST: Right. INGRAHAM: But Stacey Abrams maybe elected the next governor of Georgia. You have Andrew Gillum in Florida. Barack Obama a two-term president, very popular, went out very popular. So, for Oprah to come to Georgia and she's a larger than life figure and she's an incredible person. Done a lot for a lot of people, then she comes to Georgia and she basically acts like no progress has been made and we are on the verge of having this guy, Brian Kemp oversee mass lynchings of African-Americans. How is that a positive engagement on politics? HARRIS: Laura, I think what she is doing is acknowledging the fact that Brian Kemp is suppressing over 53,000 votes and that's according to the AP in Georgia. And that this is a long history of suppressing votes in the south by conservatives, by Republicans. In 2005, the head of the RNC actually apologized for embracing what he called the southern (inaudible) the southern strategy where the Republican Party embraced racism from white people to get votes. That was what the Republican Party tried to do. That's where this all comes from because that was their strategy, and though he apologized for it in 2005, there is no proof that they've stopped doing it. Cue Donald Trump calling Mexicans murderers and rapists. INGRAHAM: OK, well, we're not -- let's stay in Georgia for a moment because I think this is really important for people to understand what did happen in Georgia. When voter registrations and Kim I know you know about this, you have written about this, the integrity of the vote does need to be maintained. And duplicate registrations, people registered in multiple counties, registration whose names are not quite matching. States all across the country end up cleaning up their rolls. They do it, they've always done it. But this has turned into a racial football in Georgia, Kimberley. And, you know, you heard what Jonathan said, 53,000 have been purged from the rolls or have been suppressed. Is that really what has been happening and is Brian Kemp the culprit? KIMBERLEY STRASSEL, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: No, because we've been cleaning up the voter rolls. It's a routine thing that happens out in states year after year and you are not seeing it happen just minorities. People of all races and all distinctions occasionally are pulled off and sometimes it's an error. Often it's just to update the list. But look, the rhetoric here has changed so much this election, Laura. We used to talk of -- the complaint used to be well tougher voter I.D. laws. Let's not move to claims of outright suppression. We used to claim that Republicans have latent racism, now you are outright calling them white nationalist. And there is an electoral strategy behind this and it is the speck. Look, you cited that poll, Democrats continue to argue every time there is a poll that says that African-Americans are supporting Donald Trump in greater numbers. But even they will admit that it has shifted a little bit. And in a race this close where two or three points could be the deciding factor, to have African-Americans come out and vote for Republicans or worse in their mind, simply not come out and vote for Democrats, stay home because they are not animated against Donald Trump. That could be the difference between victory and defeat and that is why you see this rhetoric reaching such extraordinary levels. INGRAHAM: Yes, both side are accusing the other of ramping up rhetoric for political reasons. Niger, I want to go to what Vice President Pence said today, kind of reacting to what Oprah did in Georgia. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I would like to remind Stacey and Oprah and Will Farrell, I'm kind of a big deal too. This ain't Hollywood. This is Georgia. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: How much star power, I mean, Oprah did have an effect in 2008. She really turned out some voters for Barack Obama, there's no doubt about it. She is still very popular. But the economy now is doing well. The economy in 2008 wasn't doing all that great. But now the economy in Georgia has picked up, wages have gone up, the great economic statistics that just came out yesterday with rising wages. So Niger, does the celebrity factor work here even using the race card? INNIS: I suppose there will be some degree of an impact. There is no doubt that Oprah is very popular, but I actually think that come next Tuesday, there is actually going to be a surprise. I don't know that Republicans are going to hold on to the House, but I think they are going to do a lot better particularly in the minority community than people are polling right now. I think, you often hear of like there's a hidden trump vote that could move the polls 3 to 5 percent. It's not just whites, you know, that are afraid to tell their pollster that they are voting for Donald Trump. You know, there is a rein of terror in minority precincts and among sometimes when an activist, you know, that punish people that are supposed to vote Democrat if you are black, Hispanic or Asian. INGRAHAM: Yes, people are afraid. Jonathan -- I ask Jonathan, we're out of time, but Jonathan, don't you agree that it's not a good thing if people are afraid to wear a t-shirt supporting whether it's the Democrat or the Republicans? And now you have people who are literally afraid to wear a MAGA hat. They are afraid because they are going to be called a racist. Is that a good thing? HARRIS: I don't think they should be afraid. They should be embarrassed however. INGRAHAM: OK, well, they are afraid because, you know, the charge of racism is potent. HARRIS: They should definitely be embarrassed. No, there should be no fear from expressing your political opinions, but when you are embracing a person and a party who openly advocates for racism, calling themselves a nationalist and things like that, you should be embarrassed to embrace that absolutely. Be not afraid. INNIS: Everything is racism (inaudible) HARRIS: Not everything is racism. INNIS: -- says, you can't throw out the racism card forever. HARRIS: It's not a racism card. (CROSSTALK) HARRIS: When someone is being racist, calling them a racist is not pulling the race card. That's not what that is. INGRAHAM: Well, the record low unemployment for African-Americans, that's definitely not racist. I'll tell you that. HARRIS: Obama cut it in half. INGRAHAM: Kimberley, we're almost out of time, but progressive -- well, wages have finally gone up, didn't under Obama. Kimberley, real quick because we're almost out of time, progressivism, does it -- even if they take the house, do progressive policies end up showing us something new this time? Georgia, maybe Florida, new economic boom under a liberal policy? STRASSEL: Yes, it's not been noticed, but actually there are very few real progressive candidates out there who are likely to win. Democrats have in fact been keeping a lid on them. Most of the races we've seen have been Democrats trying to position themselves as centrist or moderates. Look out in Arizona, and to the extent that the progressive had all the air time in the Kavanaugh hearing. They are the ones that actually blew the potential for a blue wave so that is not what's winning it for Democrats this year. INGRAHAM: I don't think most of them want to talk about the caravan. They don't want to talk about that issue at all because they know it doesn't pull well amongst some constituents. It's a great conversation guys. Thank you so much. The reaction by the way to Trump's moves on immigration over the last week have resulted in a common refrain from the left. Oh, what is it? Racist! A Hispanic border agent and the aunt of a police officer killed by twice deported illegal alien tells us why they are offended. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Tonight we broadcast from the border state of Arizona where immigration will play front and center in the senate race. Very tight tonight between Republican Martha McSally and the Democrat Kyrsten Sinema. Now, according to DHS, there are approximately 370,000 illegal immigrants already in the state and thousands more are in mobile mobs barreling towards the U.S. border ready to claim asylum. The so-called caravan. Now the president throwing a wrench into their plans by announcing today a big change to the process. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Illegal aliens will no longer get a free pass into our country by lodging meritless claims in seeking asylum. Those who chose to break our laws and enter illegally will no longer be able to use meritless claims to gain automatic admission into our country. We will hold them. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Fantastic! I love it. Joining us now with reaction is Art Del Cueto, vice-president of the National Border Patrol Council and host of the Green Line radio show and an old friend of mine, and Pam Owens whose nephew, Detective Michael Davis Jr. was murdered in 2014 by an illegal immigrant who was already twice deported. And Art, first to you, is this going to make a difference in the number of illegals crossing the border especially with this caravan approaching? ART DEL CUETO, VICE PRESIDENT, NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL: I think we have a situation where we have a president that actually cares and I think that's what's important. We have somebody -- he is actually making a bigger deal out of it. He's keeping us in the limelight. He's showing that he cares about illegal immigration and that's a huge deal because we haven't seen that before and that's very, very welcome. I hope it stops them from coming across, but the reality is unless you stop the catch and release, it will not stop. INGRAHAM: He said we're going to catch, yes, we're going to catch but we're not going to release. He said that today which a lot of people are questioning. I want to play something for you and for Pamela. This was Jake Tapper of CNN earlier today discussing what the president said. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAKE TAPPER, CNN HOST: We were told by the White House that President Trump would be introducing a new proposal, a new policy when it came to asylum. That's not actually what happened. I don't know of a national security expert who says there's actually crisis at the border. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He doesn't know of a national security expert who considers it a crisis at the border. You deal with this day in and out. Is this a crisis with the number of people now crossing the border? DEL CUETO: It's been a crisis for quite some time. It was a huge crisis during the Obama administration. When we started under President Trump the numbers lowered dramatically on his rhetoric alone. I think we missed the mark, the leaders of our agency, but now we are seeing a president that is going to enforce the law. He is not bringing anything new to the table. He is just saying you need to protect our borders. I mean, what a crazy idea, right. INGRAHAM: But it's racist and you are Hispanic yourself. How does it feel to you to have the president called racist, anti-Latino, xenophobe, nativist. Every time he talks tough on the border wants to do something all those names, we just did a whole segment on it, all those names come out. DEL CUETO: You know, when you don't have an argument anymore and you realize that you are wrong, that's what you have to say, racist. I myself, I've been called an Uncle Juan so many times, a race traitor, why don't you try, you know, stand up for your own race. It's not a racial thing. Border security has nothing to do with race. The security of a country has nothing to do with race. I owe everything to this country and the only flag that I will fly, the only flag that I support and the only country that I support is the United States of America. It has nothing to do with race. INGRAHAM: A lot of blue flags in that caravan, the Honduran flag, other flags. I don't see a lot of American flags but -- DEL CUETO: Well, if you are escaping a country because they have oppressed you so badly, would you be really flying the flag of that country that oppressed you? INGRAHAM: That's a great point which I have not thought of. Thank you for raising it. Pamela, I want to go to you because the president has been vilified, Pamela, for raising the issue of illegal immigrant crime. Outrage all day long because he discussed cases such as that of your nephew, a police officer in California. Gunned down in cold blood by Luis (inaudible) Montes who was twice deported and yet came back and killed and then laughed about it in court when he was being sentenced. I've got to get your take on the vilification of this president and his concern about illegal immigrant crime, Pamela. PAMELA OWENS, AUNT OF OFFICER KILLED BY ILLEGAL: I support everything this president is doing and has done. Our entire family are so grateful for everything that he's done. I get so angry when I listen to what people do say about him because he is not a villain. He is doing what he was hired to do, which is protect our nation and protect our people. That's what he is there for. That's what he is supposed to do. And finally, we have a president who is doing it and Democrats just can't stand it. They have blood on their hands. They should be ashamed of themselves. Listening to the last guest talking about we should be embarrassed. No, they should be embarrassed. And shame on them, all of them. And thank you, President Trump. INGRAHAM: I have to say Pamela, I am so stunned when I see people -- I should not be after all of these years. I should just not be surprised at all, but I am stunned. When you have someone standing up for victims, victims who are trafficked, victims of gun crime, guns coming across the border. I know you deal with the fentanyl, Art, as well, coming across the border, and in this case a California police officer, two gunned down. And for him to bring this up is somehow racist? He doesn't care if it's black, white, Asian, gay, straight. It's an American killed. OWENS: Exactly. INGRAHAM: And that's racist? If you could speak directly to the American people watching this right now, Pamela, about this toxic charge of racism that we heard all day long on CNN and MSNBC, all day long. OWENS: Well, I can tell you that, take a walk in our shoes and see what it feels like, you would understand. It has nothing to do with race. I don't care what race Mr. Bracamontes was. He murdered two officers as well as I believe the man that he carjacked was a black man. So let's not talk race. It has nothing to do with race. He was a criminal. An illegal alien. He was not an illegal immigrant. He was an illegal alien in our country numerous times illegally. And shame on those who get on the president for doing what he should do. INGRAHAM: They used the charge because they do not have an answer and they know this is a potent issue. As the president said today, if we have time to play it, women want to be safe too, Art. Let's watch that. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There's nothing political about a caravan of thousands of people and now others forming pouring up into our country. We have no idea who they are. I don't want them in our country. And women don't want them in our country. Women want security. Men don't want them in our country. But the women do not want them. Women want security. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Safety is very important, home, homeland. Those concepts for women, as a woman, you want to be safe. Not everybody is a criminal. A lot of people just want to come and work. We all know that. But sadly, that hasn't been the case. Even right near here, Mesa, Arizona, we've had a big problem in Mesa, Arizona, Grant Ronnebeck, shot in the face. DEL: But you don't know. That's the thing. If you don't vet these people properly, you don't know. You are here in Arizona. Close to 40 percent of all of the drugs that enter this country legally come through here. And we are coming up on elections. And I think it's very important that people are going to realize when you go to that poll, do you want border security? Forty percent of drugs come through Arizona. Do you want border security or do you want somebody that doesn't care about our borders? INGRAHAM: Sinema is not good on the border. She is terrible on the border. McSally is the only person. DEL CUETO: You've got to think about it. INGRAHAM: Absolutely. Thank you so much to both of you. Pamela, and Art, great to you have on, as always. Pam, thanks for being brave, and brave enough to share that story tonight. We will never forget. And when we come back, the pollsters, they have it all covered for us. You do not want to miss this next segment. Stay right there. INGRAHAM: Only five days to go until the midterm elections, and tonight we highlight some of the races that Democrats once thought were sure bets. Now it's anyone's guess. Joining me to discuss is Tom Bevan. He's the cofounder of publisher of Real Clear Politics, and Doug Schoen, a Democratic pollster. All right, guys, Tom, let's start with you. John Tester out in Montana. He was sailing to reelection. But tell us about some of the dirty tricks that have his challenger, Republican Matt Rosendale, back in the hunt tonight. TOM BEVAN, REAL CLEAR POLITICS CO-FOUNDER: Well, we did have this situation where the libertarian candidate, he didn't drop out of the race, but he endorsed Rosendale, and threw his support behind Rosendale. But, the Libertarian wasn't get a lot necessarily support in the polls, but even a small shift in this race. We have got Tester up about four points in our Real Clear Politics average. The problem is we've only had one poll, two polls in October. One of them was completed two weeks ago, so we literally have almost no data in Montana to tell us what's going on there. It seems like it's a close race. Trump has obviously been there. And this could be one of those surprises on election night purely because we don't have really good data on what's going on. It hasn't been polled very heavily at all. INGRAHAM: Doug, I want to go to you. Down in Florida, things are interesting there, because it looked like Gillum was beginning to build this big momentum. Then we started hearing more about this corruption, getting bribes potentially, the FBI investigation, now stuff with anti- Israel group. And now his lead has been cut in half, and obviously Trump is spending a lot of time there as well. What's going on? DOUG SCHOEN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Look, Florida is a very close, toss up state in both the governor's race, Laura, and the Senate race. And you're absolutely right. Gillum had opened a double-digit lead. Since then we've heard a lot more about a corruption scandal potentially during his administration, travel gifts. And there is also the issue of the role of the president trying to mobilize voters for DeSantis who had been slipping until recently. I see this as a very close race, slight advantage to Gillum, but no more. INGRAHAM: I want to go now Missouri where Claire McCaskill, guys, is a very interesting place. She made a comment is Donald Trump's border security policy, specifically talking about I think the wall and other things. Let's watch what she said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CLAIRE MCCASKILL, (D) MISSOURI: The impression he is giving Missourians that somehow the Democrats are in favor of our border being overrun. I am not. I support the president 100 percent doing what he needs to do to secure the border. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Tom, McCaskill is like a border hawk. She's going to be wearing a MAGA hat soon, riding the border. What's going on there? BEVAN: So McCaskill is the Lucy with the football for Republicans. Every cycle they think they can get her and remove her and kick her out of office, and she always survives. This year seems a little bit different. And that comment is one of the reasons why. She is also running ads saying, look, with people on camera saying, look, she is not one of those crazy Democrats like Bernie and the others. If this race definitely has a different feel to it. The polls are very, very close. Our Real Clear Politics average has Josh Hawley up two points. But this race is definitely close. You can't really count out McCaskill. She is a hard campaigner, she's a good campaigner. She's obviously doing what she needs to do to try and win this race. But this one feels different. I think she might be end up on the short side five days from now. INGRAHAM: We just saw that graphic come up on Trump's approval rating for the economy. Great news for him on the economy, 51 percent approval rating. And his numbers in both Florida and in Tennessee with Marsha Blackburn very good. But I want to move up to New Jersey for a moment, Doug, because Bob Menendez is another person who has been just mired in various scandals. But he's still holding on to a lead over Bob Hugin. Could that perhaps change? SCHOEN: It could. And Laura, the only thing that is tethering Bob Menendez up at this point is the fact that the state is so very, very Democratic, and as long as I can remember going back over 20 years it's been represented by Democrats in the Senate. That being said, the lead in the polls that I have seen is down to somewhere between four and six points. So it's a tossup according to Charlie Cook. It could go either way. But the democratic nature of the state make Bob Menendez ever so slightly a favorite. INGRAHAM: Tom, we are out of time. But a quick question. Could it be that in some of these polls people are actually afraid to say they will vote for the Republican? You find that sometimes in workplaces, they've afraid to say I'm a conservative. Is there something about pollsters that people might not always be truthful, or are or they pretty straight with the pollsters? BEVAN: There was an effect that we found in 2016 where Trump's numbers were higher actually when the poll was conducted with the robo-call, was an IBF poll, which means that instead of talking to a live pollster, if it was press one if you support Donald Trump. Trump actually got higher slight higher rates in those types of polls as opposed to talking to live pollsters. So there is a big of that effect. We may see it come back here in 2018. But it's very hard to quantify by each individual poll. SCHOEN: Laura, Democrats like polls more than Republicans and answer them in slightly higher numbers, which effects the ultimate results as well. INGRAHAM: Can't wait. Guys, thank you very much. Great insights. Now, we have been reviewing the hottest and most effective ads this election cycle. But we want to bring in someone, an advertising guru. You know old Frank Luntz. He's going to break them down for us. Stay there. INGRAHAM: A good campaign ad can completely change the course of an entire race. And there is one man who studied their effectiveness for years. Joining us now is Republican pollster and ad guru Frank Luntz. Frank, great to see you. I know you are in Georgia. I am here in Arizona. And I want to start with an ad from President Trump. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When I look at the way things are, it reminds me how far we have come. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These numbers, they are depressingly -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The economy is growing even more slowly than we thought. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Things are starting to change. There is more opportunity and security to I have invest in the ones that matter. But this could all go away if we don't remember what we came from and choose the right future. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Frank, what do you think about that one? FRANK LUNTZ, POLLSTER: It's clearly a partisan ad, but to my surprise in the testing that we just completed, that ad was celebrated. Democrats responded almost as favorably as Republicans because it dealt with an emotional appeal that the public wants. A mom and her daughter desperate for things to get better. And people actually do -- Democrats even give Trump credit for improving the economy. So that was right on the mark. It's one of those rare partisan ads that are effective. INGRAHAM: I want to play an ad from Brian Kemp in Georgia. Stacey Abrams getting some help from Oprah today and Will Ferrell earlier this week. But let's watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRIAN KEMP, (R) GEORGIA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: I'm Brian kemp. I am so conservative, I blow up government spending. I own guns that no one is taking away. My chainsaw is ready to rip up some regulations. I've got a big truck just in case I need to roundup criminal illegals and take them home myself. Yep, I just said that. You want a politically incorrect conservative, that's me. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, How did that do? How does that one do. LUNTZ: Fantastic among Republicans, awful among Democrats. And actually people who are independent wonder is this guy serious or is he a good old boy. All of these ads are going to be shown Monday night on HBO and Vice News. We have tested over 250 of the political ads, and that one among Republicans is in the top 10. But Democrats when they look at it, they say no way. INGRAHAM: OK, let's move on to Bob Hugin, because I'm going to stake it on Hugin beating Menendez. I might be wrong, but I have hope for New Jersey. I love the state of New Jersey. It's corrupt, but it's a beautiful state in many ways. I want it to get better, so I want Hugin to win. So let's watch this ad. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: These are difficult times. Things are better for us than they were for our mothers, grandmothers. Now we are going through another change, and it will make life better for her. Reading this sworn FBI affidavit containing allegations bob Menendez traveled abroad to have sex with underage prostitutes, one thing became clear. We'll never be able to explain a vote for him to her. (END VIDEO CLIP) LUNTZ: Brilliant. Brilliant. INGRAHAM: What do you think about that one? LUNTZ: There is no other word to describe it. It is brilliant because there is a special relationship between a mother and a daughter, and this is one of those places where the Me Too movement is alive, and it's alive on behalf of the Republicans or against the Democrats. I believe that there are a series of ads right now that may cost Bob Menendez the election, and that is one of them right there. INGRAHAM: Thanks so much, Frank. Fantastic. Democrats used to claim, by the way, that when it comes to dark money and dirty tricks, they are totally above board. It's all the Republicans who do that stuff. But tonight we have information showing that they are intently engaged in both this election season, and we're going to show you next. INGRAHAM: Don't you love it when Democrats, or frankly anyone is claiming moral superiority on an issue, then they end up doing it, like we're not going to use dark money in politics or dirty tricks. But tonight we have information that the Democrats are heavily utilizing both. First the tricks. Anonymous and potentially illegal mailers targeting Republican voters in Montana, Indiana, and Missouri attempting to scare them into staying home. And then there is the dark money. The "New York Times" reporting on a group called the Hub Project. It's run by Obama alums match with a stated goal of funding progressive candidates to the tune of $30 million this cycle, mostly through anonymous sources. Joining us to discuss is Victor Davis Hanson, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. Victor, I thought the Democrats were against these practices. They abhor them. They abjure them. (LAUGHTER) VICTOR DAVIS HANSON, HOOVER INSTITUTION: No, the parties have switched, Laura. The wealthy and the poor are in the Democratic Party and the middle-class has fled. You can see that in the 2008 and 12 and 16 campaigns. They vastly outraised Republicans. Obama was the first president to refuse public financing of campaigns. He paid a $375,000 penalty for fines. And then you look at the wealthiest 20 counties in the United States, 15 of the 20 are Democratic. The great wealth, Laura, in this country is no longer mining or agriculture or steel. It's high-tech. It's media, it's high finance. So Apple, Google, Amazon, Bloomberg, Facebook. That's why we have $1 billion coming into this race. And I'll just end by thinking that it's not always logical how you spend that money when you have so much of it. Some of it is very sloppy on their part. They feel that Ted Cruz is public enemy number one, maybe Devin Nunes is public enemy number two. And they are pouring $75 million into a Senate race they are probably not going to win that could have been used a lot better elsewhere. But Nunes here where I am in central California, he's sort of Emmanuel Goldstein of "1984." They have two minutes of hate and they're not distributing the funds to candidates that would have a far better chance than his opponent. But you're right about the malfeasance. It's sort of like the ends are so justified, that they are so noble, redistribution, identity politics, equality, that any means necessary to obtain them are considered OK. INGRAHAM: Victor, can I get you to weigh in on the race baiting that we started the show with tonight. We're here in Arizona, immigration ground zero, 40 percent of all illegal drugs come in through Arizona, as you know. It's a really important state. But the race card being played all day long, and frankly for most of this election cycle against supporters of president and his agenda and so forth. Your final thoughts on that? HANSON: It's the same idea, though. It's flipped. So the civil rights people that were in large part in the north, at least, Democratic, now they believe that your superficial appearance is essential rather than incidental to your character. And it's conservatives who are live and let live. It's just incidental what a person looks like. They flipped just like the money question that we discussed earlier. INGRAHAM: Well, I think people are getting tired of it. I really do. I think it's an insult to true racism and epitomizes true racism. Victor Davis Hanson, thank you so much. And everyone, I want you to stay there for a preview of a very important INGRAHAM ANGLE from Arizona tonight. We're going to continue right when we come back. INGRAHAM: You just heard from Art Del Cueto from Border Patrol who just told us how important this state of Arizona is to the entire immigration debate. Tomorrow we'll bring you a special focus group of Arizonans of every political stripe to discuss this pressing issue. We'll also talk with Senate candidate Martha McSally as she looks to close the deal versus Kyrsten Sinema. So be sure to turn in. It's going to be a very important INGRAHAM ANGLE tomorrow night. That is all the time we have tonight here. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team is there in Washington to take it away. Shannon. 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You know, after the election, a great question to the president, what about Area 51? TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: That is a good question. I ask him. Please? HANNITY: I will do that for everybody's sake. Tucker, good to see you. Great show. Welcome to HANNITY. Buckle up. We've got a busy hour. We are barreling now towards the finish line, six days, you have the power, you decide the fate of your government. Are you going to allow Nancy Pelosi, in California, Chuck Schumer, New York to control your taxes and your border security, immigration policies, the future of your Supreme Court? Or do you want your life to continue to get better? Are you better off than you were two years ago? That's what's at stake. And coming up, we will show you how Nancy Pelosi has already -- she is declaring victory despite, of course, 30- some odd toss-up races in the House. Maybe you'll shock the world in six days. We also have the highlights, the president on fire, huge rally in Florida tonight. We'll play an exclusive bombshell new video, Project Veritas, wow is all I have to say, exposing the hidden agenda lurking inside the Gillum campaign down in Florida. And I have a message for Don Lemon, fake news Jake Tapper, and the rest of CNN, they have literally become nothing but a propaganda arm of the Democratic Party, all while masquerading as nonpartisan journalists. Also tonight, an important update from the border as we await the caravan of illegal immigrants demanding entry into our country. Sit back, buckle up. Six nights to go. Time for our jam-packed breaking news opening monologue. All right. On this Halloween night, we are facing -- well, a terrifying prospect. Nancy Pelosi as the new speaker of the House, Chairwoman Maxine Waters, the liar in chief himself, Chairman Shifty Adam Schiff, Chairman Jerrold Nadler in six days, if you don't want that nightmare to become a reality you have to get up and get out and vote and vote in huge numbers. Every race matters. Nancy Pelosi's bags are packed. She is ready to move into a brand new office, the speaker's office. In fact, she has now declared victory. Forget about voting according to her. It's all in the bag. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA: We will win. We will win. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) STEPHEN COLBERT, LATE NIGHT TV HOST/COMEDIAN: Please don't say that. Do you want to say that on Hillary's fireworks barge that she cancelled? (LAUGHTER) COLBERT: Please, please, please don't say that. PELOSI: We will win. We own the ground. We're not yielding one grain of sand. COLBERT: And how long are the curtains that you're measuring right now? PELOSI: No, we're not measuring. We're just walking precincts and if everyone votes, we'll have even a bigger victory. But we will -- Democrats will carry the House, if we have a bigger victory, the Senate, governorships, it's going to be a great night for America. COLBERT: There has been a lot of talk lately about lowering the temperature of political discourse. Have you seen evidence of that? PELOSI: Well, I think when we win, you will see evidence of that. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh, when we win, we'll be civil then. But up until then, you know, not tell the American people what we really want to do. Now, the president, give him a lot of credit, doing everything he can do to keep Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and their far left radical friends away from power. Tonight in Florida where the president held a raucous rally for Ron DeSantis and Rick Scott. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Republicans want strong borders, no crime, no chaos and no caravans. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) Democrats want open borders and they want to invite caravan after caravan into our country, which brings crime upon crime. (BOOS) If you want high taxes and high crime, vote for the Democrats. Vote for the Democrats. Loyal citizens like you help build this country and together, we are taking back our country, returning power to you, the American people, which is true. It's been your movement. This has been your movement. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Rick Scott, Ron DeSantis locked in extremely tight races. Early voting continues in Florida as we speak. But tonight, we have a new bombshell revelation in Florida's gubernatorial race -- a brand new, stunning undercover video from projectveritas.com taking you inside the far left campaign of socialist Andrew Gillum. One of his staffers caught on tape coming clean about his campaign's dirty political tricks, even using racist language to describe the people of Florida. And we'll let you watch the video and you, of course, get to decide. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOURNALIST: So then none of the programs that people are hoping for would happen? OMAR SMITH, GILLUM CAMPAIGN STAFFER: Basically. JOURNALIST: Well, do voters know that? SMITH: Hmm? JOURNALIST: Do voters know that? SMITH: That's not for them to know. JOURNALIST: Huh? SMITH: That's not for them to know. Remember our saying, modern day fairy tales start with "once I am elected". You have extreme right wingers, those are the Trump and the crazy, crazy, crazy Republicans. The progressives are the crazy, crazy, crazy Democrat. Your hipsters, your hippies. JOURNALIST: Oh, you're not a progressive? Isn't Gillum a progressive? SMITH: Gillum is a progressive. JOURNALIST: So Gillum is part of the crazy, crazy? SMITH: He is part of the crazy, crazy, crazy. The rules in Florida (EXPLETIVE DELETED) suck. JOURNALIST: Tell me about it, man. SMITH: This is a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) ass state. JOURNALIST: OK. SMITH: It's a cracker state. JOURNALIST: OK. SMITH: OK? Ask anybody outside of here. You go Port St. Lucie, Orlando, man, them crackers ain't going to let us do that (EXPLETIVE DELETED) dawg. Boy, you crazy? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And F'd up state. A cracker state. We reached out to Gillum's campaign for comment on the video. They haven't gotten back to us. This is the most radical group of Democrats ever to seek office and now even more evidence. Now, of course, we have been exposing Gillum on this show for weeks, highlighting what are huge ongoing ethics problems and probes involving him, oh, actually taking bribes from undercover FBI agent. And tonight, we are learning even more about his questionable spending habits. Brand new report, Gillum, while mayor of Tallahassee, stuck a Florida taxpayers with the bill for a fundraising trip to discuss his run for governor, putting an even, well, more difficult corruption cloud over his candidacy. We reached out to Gillum's campaign about that story too and haven't heard back. Florida, you have the choice, get out to vote, or let's see a 40 percent increase in business taxes. By the way, I wonder if the people on the tape are going to be fired. Of course, Ron DeSantis, Navy JAG officer, congressman, supporter of the Trump agenda, by the way, the Florida economy is literally hanging in the balance. Andrew Gillum exposed as someone willing to say and do anything. You notice the one thing consistent about all of these tapes. They have to lie to trick you into voting for them, and being somebody they are not. And you just saw it with your own eyes. And Gillum, no different from any Democrat up for election. We have seen tape after tape, week after week, of undercover videos from Project Veritas and you see this widespread deception in all these Democratic campaigns. You have got Kyrsten Sinema out in Arizona. Oh, she thinks that's the meth lab of democracy and no problem if Americans join the Taliban. Then, you got Claire McCaskill, she is caught on tape being a phony, one thing in public and one thing in private. Then you got Phil Bredesen, he thinks the people of Tennessee are ignorant. Heidi Heitkamp, North Dakota, they are all lying to you. Watch the tape. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JESSE OVERTON, DIGITAL DIRECTOR, SEN. HEIDI HEITKAMP: It's an election year for her. She is being careful about pissing people off, and it's funny she said basically like -- after the election, if and when she gets elected, she is going to be super liberal. LAUREN FROMM, FIELD ORGANIZER, KYRSTEN SINEMA CAMPAIGN: There is a lot of conservative people in Arizona. So, she can't alienate the conservative or moderate conservative voters by being super pro-choice. She is pro-choice, she is a liberal, she is progressive. JOURNALIST: Right. FROMM: But she doesn't in this election want to draw too much attention to being progressive. BOB MILLS, DEPUTY REGIONAL FIELD DIR., CLAIRE MCCASKILL CAMPAIGN: She doesn't like openly go out and support groups like Moms Demand Action or just like other groups that are like related to that, because that could hurt like people -- like her ability to get elected. JOURNALIST: I was so confused because I just can't believe that he would actually vote yes. WILL STEWART, FIELD ORGANIZER, PHIL BREDESEN CAMPAIGN: Oh, he wouldn't. But he's saying he would. VIKRUM, PHIL BREDESEN CAMPAIGN STAFFER: It's politics. STEWART: Which I don't know if it makes it worse or better. No, it makes better, but it's still -- JOURNALIST: But what's the like -- I don't understand what's the game by saying yes? STEWART: Moderates. CHANDLER BURDGESS, PHIL BREDESEN CAMPAIGN STAFFER: Moderate Republicans. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Democrats can't run and tell you what they really believe, what they'd really do. So, they're pretending to be something they are not. And they're literally acting as moderates when they're anything but, and kind of laughing at the fact that they are doing it. It's sad. One of the Democrats exposed by Project Veritas, Missouri Senator Claire McCaskill, she now finds herself feuding with own party just days before the election, after calling a state senator, Maria Chappelle-Nadal a crazy Democrat for making despicable comments about the president, well, and being assassinated. Well, the state senator fired back in a series of tweets, calling McCaskill Dixie Claire, comparing her to a slave owner, along with other words we won't repeat here. But without a doubt, that woman's comments are reprehensible. And with just six days until the midterms, believe it or not, McCaskill is now making an election year conversion, one week out of the election, saying nice things about Donald Trump. She even claims to support Trump 100 percent when it comes to border security. This is Election Day conversion. This is not truth. Actions speak louder than words. Claire McCaskill voted against the tax cuts for the people of Missouri. She voted for Obamacare. Remember, keep your doctor, plan, and save money? She voted against Justice Gorsuch. She voted against Justice Kavanaugh. In fact, she didn't even give the benefit of the doubt, due process, the presumption of innocence, to Kavanaugh when he was facing uncorroborated, untrue, ridiculous charges of gang rape in which she had the chance to stand up for due process, presumption of innocence, constitutional values that have served this country so well. She was nowhere to be found. She's not a moderate. She's never been a moderate. She is literally Missouri's Chuck Schumer. So, if you want Chuck Schumer, vote for Claire McCaskill. Or you can support the Republican who's up in the polls, only slightly, Josh Hawley, who is continuing to in momentum. And as his Republican Matt Rosendale, Montana is now a state in play. Now, by the way, he is now giving Democratic incumbent Jon Tester the fight of his life. That is a winnable race for Republicans. Why? Breaking news in that race tonight. The libertarian candidate has dropped out and endorsed Rosendale, Tester's opponent, giving a big boost to the GOP. Montana, you now have a chance to pull off a major political upset because this race is dead even. By the way, Indiana, you y may want to follow suit. Don't vote for the libertarian. That only helps the incumbent, Chuck Schumer Democrat by the name of Joe Donnelly in Indiana. In sixth days, you will definitely see one of three results. First is a best case scenario. Let's start with the good news. Republicans pick up seats in the Senate. They hold onto a small majority in the house. Second scenario would be a split decision. GOP holds onto power in the Senate, picks up some seats but loses the House. And there she is. Nancy Pelosi becomes your speaker. The third -- well, that's sort of like the doomsday Halloween nightmare scenario. That involves Republicans losing both the House and the Senate, meaning you stayed home. You didn't get involved. And by staying home, that's a vote for Pelosi or a vote for Schumer. Or if you vote for any Democrat, House or Senate, it's pretty much the same thing. Now, that scenario, that is what the mainstream media is openly rooting for, for years, election after election. Democratic Party's biggest donor, their biggest ally, their biggest contributor has always been the mainstream media. Like the Democratic Party, the media, they use deception and lies and misinformation to influence the American people. They are agenda-driven. Let's look at fake news CNN. Believe it or not, their network's motto is "facts first," nothing could be further from the truth. But two nights ago, Don Lemon, he hosts a show on their prime time network, actually telling his audience that the biggest terror threat in America is white men. And according to CNN, the facts first network, white men, especially those that are conservative on the right, are scary, evil creatures. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DON LEMON, CNN HOST: We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right. And we have to start doing something about them. There is no travel ban on them. There is no ban on, you know, they had the Muslim ban. There is no white guy ban. So what do we do about that? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Stop demonizing them but then let's demonize them. Forget about ISIS, forget al Qaeda, forget about the left wing nut job who shot up a congressional baseball field full of Republican lawmakers last year, or the person who just shot up a Republican campaign office last week, or the people sending ricin to Mattis and President Trump and Wray and Gina Haspel or the Trump family or the steady stream of terroristic threats that we see regularly against members of the Trump administration or people being run out of restaurants by, you know, with their families by these mobs that take place, you can't say mob on CNN. According to Don Lemon, CNN, facts first, radicalized conservative white men are the biggest threat in the country. Look, I understand we're six days out of an elections. I met Don Lemon and actually seemed like a nice guy. I want to be clear. I don't support boycotts. I don't support firings. CNN can program any way they want to program. Don, you should apologize. Sadly, I doubt he will. His utterly biased anti-Trump anti-conservative vitriol sadly is nothing new. Night after night, what they say facts first -- well, they replace facts with fear, and an unhealthy dose of identity politics. We've got the tape. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LEMON: He has given oxygen to racists. He is clearly trying to ignite a civil war in this country. This president constantly denigrates people of color and women, too. Let us not mince word -- let me not mince words here. This president traffics in racism and is fueled by bullying. What I saw was a minstrel show today, straight out of a dictator's playbook. For anyone out there, any of you attempting to defend what he did, you are an enabler. He apparently doesn't care about you or America or the dignity of the office. How many times will you look the other way? How can you look at yourself in America? How can you? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Lemon is not the only so-called CNN news anchor to feature anti- Trump rhetoric. Holier than thou colleague fake Jake Tapper recently invited a far left anti-Trump zealot on his program who promptly made this bizarre comparison, equating Trump to ISIS. Yeah, the people that cut off heads. Those people. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JULIA IOFFE, GQ REPORTER: I think, you know, this president, one of the things that he really launched his presidential run on is talking about Islamic radicalization and this president has radicalized so many more people than ISIS ever did. I think the president has far more supporters who espoused an equally hateful ideology. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No pushback from fake Jake. And Julia Ioffe, her name, deranged so-called journalist, that he invited on the show, literally says that Trump is worse than ISIS. And the torch bearer for the facts first network just tosses to another guest, who is rightfully looking on in horror. But then Tapper got the message and gives her another chance to clarify her remarks, her insane remarks, and as you might imagine, she offered disingenuous apology and in one breath, bashes Trump some more. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) IOFFE: I think I spoke in the heat of the moment, a very emotional and personally painful time for me. I think I exaggerated and I apologize for that. But what -- the point I was trying to ham fistedly to make is that it's not a coincidence that according to the ADL, the number of anti- Semitic attacks has dropped by nearly 60 percent in the first year that Donald Trump was in office. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The guy that has been more friendly to the state of Israel, praised by Bibi Netanyahu, Ron Dermer, the guy that was -- the only president, they all made promises to make Jerusalem the capital, that guy was Donald Trump. And by the way, the guy that shot up the synagogue and committed that evil, horrific, terror act of atrocities, killing innocent people, oh, he hates Trump. Why? Because he is so pro-Israel. And CNN wonders why the president calls him fake news. All of these crowds all over the country chant "CNN sucks." Are you proud of this coverage, Jake? Is this who you want representing your facts first network? All right. Of course, Lemon, Tapper, the rest of the fake news colleagues at CNN are not the only far left media shills of the Democratic Party. As we count down to the midterms, mainstream media's antidrug smear machine, which has gone on for two years, is in full gear. Their vitriol knows no bounds. Their hatred, their bias is literally spitting out of control, frankly, a sign of desperation, that they can't handle what might happen Tuesday if all of you vote. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The language does sync with some of these violent haters. It's unfortunate that people talk in the same language as murders but that is what it is. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is an emergency. The Trump presidency represents an emergency. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bringing back Stalinist or certainly what was used by Germany during World War II as propaganda, is really disgusting and startling. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's been playing the racist card. He said I'm a nationalist, David Duke comes at the next day saying, thank you, thank you so much for finally admitting that you are white nationalist. It lines up historically exactly with what certain countries were talking about when they are talking about gypsies and Jews. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's an anarchist as far as I'm concerned. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Saying you're not a globalist and that you are America first and a nationalist by putting America first does not equate to white nationalism. There is a huge difference and they know better. What you see is just part of an echo of the Democratic Party playbook. Every two years, every four years, you've heard me say it, and I warned before this election, racist, sexist, goes on and on. Now, their rhetoric is so over-the- top, so utterly absurd, so, frankly, dark and evil and what they are saying, worse than ever. I have been doing radio 30 years, started my 23rd year here at Fox and all we see here is the media desperately wanting Republicans to lose in six days. And while the media spreading hate, guess what? We have real issues to deal with in the United States. At this hour, yes, we do have thousands of migrants continuing to march our southern border. And while the left is framing the caravan as being made up of all good people, seeking a better life, which, by the way, I believe probably 99 percent of them are. They live in poverty. They want the American dream, the land of opportunity, milk and honey. The Mexican ambassador to the U.S., this is what he said in an interview revealing that some of the migrants are, quote, "very violent". That's what Mexico say. Now, in order to secure our points to entry, the president, well, he is now considering sending up to 15,000 troops to protect our borders, our rule of law, our sovereignty, and he's doing it ahead of time and telling people they will not get in illegally. And while some on the left are trying to spin this story as right-wing fear-mongering, Defense Secretary Mattis -- well, he kind of set the record straight and a general man is f kind of way. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMES MATTIS, DEFENSE SECRETARY: The support we provide to the secretary for homeland security is practical support based on the request from a commissioner of customs and border police, and so we don't do stunts in this department. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We don't see stunts in this department. So, you can wait until the last minute or you can prepare, considering that is their stated goal, to enter America illegally. But they do need to turn around, and they need to go back and apply the right way, do it with the rule of law, follow our laws, like so many legal immigrants who desperately want to become Americans. We just need to know you come here with good intentions, that you want to be a part of our family. We get to vet you, you can sustain yourself. All right. A lot of news tonight. We're going to check in with three Senate candidates in tight races. Martha McSally, Arizona, John James in Michigan, Marsha Blackburn, who's taken a nice lead, but don't count anybody out. Every vote counts. Marsha Blackburn straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with a preview of Tuesday's important election, six days away, U.S. Senate candidate from the great state of Arizona, Congressman Martha McSally, U.S. Senate candidate from Michigan, John James, is back with us. Senate candidate from Tennessee, Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn. Good to see you all. Martha, I'm looking at your race, and then one poll as you tied, and one poll has you up, and I'm thinking, how is it possible that a woman that says Arizona is the meth lab of democracy, and says that people of Arizona are crazy, invites the blind sheikh's lawyer, the radical lawyer, to speak at Arizona State University, and says that it's okay for American to join the Taliban, while you have served 28 years, six tours of duty, while she was out organizing protesters, and I'm not making it up, with witches. How is this even a race with the people of Arizona? REP. MARTHA MCSALLY (R), U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE FOR ARIZONA: Well, Sean, it is unbelievable. And this just goes to show you that she is Chuck Schumer's top recruitment and with a lot of money, with TV ads, millions and millions of dollars, she's been t able to fool a lot of people. They are not aware of those things unless they are watching your show, which I'm grateful that you keep bringing it up. But the Arizona media has been protecting her and so she's coming across as something she's not, and the biggest political makeover in our history. But, look, we're down for the wire. We have six days to go, and we can make sure we secure this victory with support from people all over Arizona and the country. They can go to make sallyforsenate.com. They can contribute, so we can make sure we win, and we need -- if you're in Arizona, look, I'm asking for your vote. And I'm asking you to send out an email, do a Facebook post, make sure you get to the polls, tell your friends and family, this is so high-stakes and every vote is really going to matter. HANNITY: I think you're right and on every front, John James, you have now close the gap, 16 points. You got a race in Michigan, which, you know what, as I said to you, I get so impressed every time I've had you on radio or TV. But every campaign is the same. Democrats, your opponent is basically Chuck Schumer of Michigan, as are all the Democrats, but they're not going to talk out about the agenda. They'll never support a president's Supreme Court justice. They want their crumbs back. They want open borders, sanctuary cities, it's -- you know, they want Obamacare. How can Democrats be running on the biggest mess they ever created? JOHN JAMES (R), U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE FOR MICHIGAN: Well, Democrats have to run on identity politics because they have no identity. They have to pit Americans against each other in order to keep themselves propped up. And that's a different message than I have. I don't have a black or white message. I have a red and -- I have a red, white, and blue message. I'm a combat veteran who understands how to bring people together. I'm a business leader who understands how to grow businesses and grown economic opportunity. We have energy all over the state and, yes, we close the gap from 23 down to six down this past Friday. We have the momentum in this race, because people recognize that we can finally have experience, combat experience and business experience, to lead us forward into the future. You can learn more about our race at JohnJamesforSenate.com. And the vice president came to visit just a little bit earlier this week and saw the energy that we have in this race and the momentum that we have. The president on the United States on the Ingraham Angle a couple of nights ago said he would be willing to come to the state. Well, Mr. President if you are watching, please come to Michigan. We need to you help us come across the hump and you have excellent luck on election day eve. We want you back in Michigan. HANNITY: You have everything we want in government. With business experience, military experience. Marsha, we've been friends a long time, I've watched your campaign. One thing, there's a lot, five Project Veritas tapes have come out. What -- your tape of Governor Bredesen hiding who he really is, purposefully lying to the people of Tennessee and his staff, which has turned out being his staff actually referring to the people of Tennessee as ignorant. I think Tennessee is one of the greatest country. I happen to love national and country music. So, since that time it seems like your poll numbers have gone up a lot. REP. MARSHA BLACKBURN, (R) TENNESSEE: They have indeed. And we like the trend that we are on. I have to tell you there has been one slight and one diminishment after another from the Bredesen camp toward the voters of Tennessee. There's been -- they have been referred to as idiots with an expletive in first of idiots by a Bredesen spokesperson. Said they weren't worth the time. You have Hillary of course deplorables comment and Bredesen stain kind of following back on with that and their spokesperson's Mark Brown's comments. But here is the thing, Sean, Tennesseans are pretty specific about what they want in next U.S. senator. They want a conservative. They want more constitutional judges. They want to keep their tax cuts and I can guarantee you this. They want that southern border secured. And they are very concerned about the caravan that is coming through Mexico into our southern border. And every day people are saying, Marsha, we know you are going to stand with the president and you are going to stand to get that wall built. And absolutely, I am. And it's a pivotal issue in this race. HANNITY: You know, I would say Martha, Kavanaugh, caravan, a lot of the rhetoric of the left has been so over the top. And the economy has turned around dramatically. Are we better off than we were two years ago? I'm not talking about us. The forgotten men and women that I talk about in 2016 they are better off. We had the biggest tax cuts, less regulation, four million jobs created, eight million fewer people on poverty and food stamps. I like America succeeding. And the border is a big issue in Arizona. REP. MARTHA MCSALLY, (R) ARIZONA: Amen, Sean. I mean, I was at a small business conference today and the optimism is there because of the conservative policies. We are working with President Trump in cutting taxes and rolling back regulation. People are being lifted out of poverty and thanks to the leadership of Governor Ducey here, Arizona is up for business. And we want to keep going in that direction. But, border security is a big issue. The two bases in my district are now going to be staging areas for the military coming there. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, or you can pick somebody that thinks-- MCSALLY: We are going to welcome them. Yes, go ahead. HANNITY: Arizona is crazy and that literally thinks it's OK to join the Taliban. MCSALLY: Exactly. HANNITY: John James, do you know what I would like to see in Michigan. MCSALLY: Go ahead. HANNITY: I would love -- I've been to Detroit. I would love to see this great city revitalized instead of talking about knocking down entire neighborhoods to consolidate services. That can happen. JAMES: Yes, it can, absolutely. And you mentioned in your last segment about people who are coming up from Central and South America who want the American dream. Who can blame them? But the thing is so do people in Michigan. Son do people in Detroit. Detroit has become Jim Crow north. Detroit is the number one most segregated in the city in the entire country. And Senator Stabenow has been an elected official for 43 years, been in a position to do something about it and hasn't. We need to make sure that we bring positive sustainable change for everyone. And Detroit is where we need to start and we need to start bringing more jobs back to Michigan. I can do that. HANNITY: All right. Marsha, we give you the last 20 seconds. BLACKBURN: I tell you. This is going to be a great race. And I think the more that the American people and Tennesseans are looking at what happened to Kavanaugh, what is happening with this caravan, wanting to keep their tax cuts and thinking about what it would look like if you had a majority leader Chuck Schumer and a speaker Nancy Pelosi, they are re-thinking this, Sean, I think we are going to do very well on Tuesday, November 6th. HANNITY: All right. Thank you all for being with us. And we'll be watching closely to six nights from tonight. All right, when we come back, president on fire tonight in Florida. He will be doing a lot of campaigning and a lot of states as we now approach in the final stretch here. Ed Henry has a full report. Judge Jeanine Pirro weighs in next. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now the president in Florida tonight raucous rally. A lot of fun for people there. What to expect from the president's a lot of campaigning this week leading up to the midterms, Fox News chief national correspondent, the man with the White House, is he holding down the fort until the president gets back. He is going to go in. He is going to have a little dinner. Ed Henry. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: I better not do that. HANNITY: I know, it's not going to work. HENRY: It does. It's not going to work. I'll get in trouble. The president has been vowing in recent days, Sean, he is not leaving anything in the locker room and he is backing that up. Out on the field tonight as you mentioned but also in the final six days he is going to have 11 stops in eight states. It gives you an idea of the phrenetic pace. Son buckle up. Florida, one of several states he will hit twice. Missouri, Indiana, are the others, all three states, of course, have very tight Senate races where Democratic seats can be flipped. Look at that map. It tells us the president is less focused on the battle for the House. Democrats may have a small edge there, but might not be a Democratic wave like they thought. They may have the edge. He has already traveled to some of those house races earlier. Now he is all over red states that he carried in 2016 where they are either big Senate races or governor race in the case of Florida. There is both. You have Republican Governor Rick Scott trying to unseat Democratic Senator Bill Nelson while Republican Congressman Ron DeSantis is trying to succeed Scott as governor running against Democrat Andrew Gillum. The president laid the stakes out and made the case at this rally, watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Bill Nelson wants open borders. We don't want open borders. Our country can't survive with open borders. Andrew Gillum is too extreme for the people of Florida. You're not going to -- you're not going to take it long. He is also weak on crime. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: Now Gillum and Nelson allies on social media tonight saying they think the president was all about fear and demagoguery at this rally, they are going to have their own big gun coming out Friday in the state of Florida. Barack Obama will be campaigning for Nelson and Gillum. Bottom line, one big reason President Trump wants to make sure that he gets both Scott and DeSantis to win is that would set the table for him, of course, in a key battleground state for 2020, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Ed Henry holding down the fort at the White House tonight serving as interim president while the president flies back. All right. Joining us now with reaction, author of the number one, number one New York-- (CROSSTALK) JEANINE PIRRO, FOX NEWS HOST: Stop it. HANNITY: What do you mean, stop? Why are you telling me what to say on my show? Bestselling book "Liars, Leakers, Liberals" The Case Against the Anti-Trump Conspiracy." She of course hosts "Justice" right here on the Fox News Channel, Judge Jeanine Pirro. You know, stay with Florida for one second here. This tape by Project Veritas. You whip them up. The poor, the middle income you have to whip them up into a frenzy in order to get them to vote. I don't think that he can say it about his gun agenda because is he trying to get moderates. The same as the other four tapes. Tennessee, Bredesen, Claire McCaskill, Kyrsten Sinema. And here is the last one. Gillum is not, you know, his own staff, Florida is f'd up, crack -- and f'd up crack of state, you have to appeal to white guilt. PIRRO: OK. What that is, it's about Democrats lying to get back into power. They are so desperate that they will do anything. And I want to focus on this also. This guy Gillum who is running for governor of Florida against Ron DeSantis who's got a record that is, you know, beyond. I mean, he has done so much for this country in the House. But this guy Gillum has run a city into the ground. It has the highest crime rate running in Florida for the last four years. It has the highest murder rate in the city's history. He hates law enforcement. He thinks that cops are nothing more than people who put minority in plantation cages. This is a guy who-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Did he say that? PIRRO: Yes. Well, he supports the defenders project. It is a -- I think it's called the defender's program where he ascribed to it. HANNITY: Wow. PIRRO: It is a manifesto that is anti-law enforcement anti-American. This is a guy whose experience belies who what he is saying. HANNITY: Let's say conventional wisdom is right and the Republicans, the split decision that I talk about that they keep the Senate, Republicans, they pick up a few seats, Heidi Heitkamp seat. Probably. I can't see Claire McCaskill winning in Missouri. She is way out of touch of the people of Missouri. I can't see Kyrsten Sinema win. Dean Heller seems to be hanging on. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: Now Jon Tester is in trouble. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: If people in Indiana don't vote libertarian, Joe Donnelly would be toast. He is a Schumer Democrat. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: So, my question is what if there is a split. What if Nancy Pelosi becomes speaker. Now, go ahead. PIRRO: Well, if she becomes speaker, I mean, it's going to be aggravating. I mean, to have to listen to this woman for the next x number of years. I mean, nothing she says makes sense to me. But what more than that. In the end the Senate is what really counts. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How do you really feel? PIRRO: You asked me so I told you. The senate is what really counts. OK? And, look, Donald Trump, the president can certainly give any candidate the edge. This is a man who you just go to America and you say do you like the money in your paychecks? Do you like the reduced regulations? Do you like the fact that GDP is 4.2? Do you like consumer confidence? Do you like the fact that ISIS' caliphate is destroyed and on and on? That is the Republican message it's fact. What he says is what he does. HANNITY: So, the headwind though, is 45 retirements in the House. The headwind is history. Only three times in 100 years. You know, think of 19, what, '94 when Newt came to power. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: You know, that was a blistering year against two years after Clinton. A disaster in 2010 for Obama. The exception would be George W. Bush after 9/11. PIRRO: Right? HANNITY: Right? PIRRO: Which kind of changes the dynamics. HANNITY: It changes in 2002. But America has never had this type of growth and turn around in two years. You know, that's what -- I don't understand if people vote Democrat you are voting for the radical agenda that failed for eight years. PIRRO: But you see, Sean, what they have done for the past two years since Donald Trump has become our president is they have registered these leftists to vote. They've all kinds of new voters coming into the system now. But I think the most important thing that people can do is realize that you can't count on any polls. We couldn't count on them in 2016. HANNITY: No. PIRRO: People are afraid to say they are pro-Trump. You know it, Sean, and so do I. They attack you. So, don't-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So, predictions? What's going to happen? PIRRO: I think that we may lose the House by a couple. It certainly is not going to be a blue wave. We're going to hold the Senate, maybe get more seats and America is going to continue to be on a roll. HANNITY: But by a couple. That means it's within reach. PIRRO: I know. HANNITY: If everybody votes. PIRRO: I know. HANNITY: Yes. I followed your-- (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: You are right again. HANNITY: I'm always right. When we come back, the left Hollywood liberal elites pulling out all the stops all things Democrat. They are about as corrupt as the media. Tammy Bruce and Monica Crowley straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Hollywood leftist elites they are coming out strong to campaign for Democrats. Jane Fonda, Amy Schumer set to appear on a voter telethon. Jimmy Kimmel, yes, Mr., well, let's just say Harvey junior and musician Brandon Flowers are appearing at Vegas event for the senate candidacy of somebody. And Oprah Winfrey is going to campaign for Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams. And all this actor Cromwell, James Cromwell is warning of, quote, "blood in the streets if Democrats lose the midterms." Isn't that nice of them? Joining us with reaction, Fox News contributor, Tammy Bruce. Senior fellow London Center for Policy Research, Monica Crowley. I will throw it to you guys. Here we are, six days out we know what conventional wisdom is, we see the president working harder than any of these candidates, to be honest, trying to carry them on his back. What happens? MONICA CROWLEY, SENIOR FELLOW, LONDON CENTER FOR POLICY RESEARCH: He is doing multiple events a day. It's almost like 2016 all over again. I have a column coming in tomorrow at the Washington Times about the Trump effect on the midterms and what I think is that the conventional wisdom is out the window the way it was two years ago. I think Donald Trump was able to establish a emotional bond with the voters of this country which got him elected. And that emotional bond is kicking in now even though he is not on the ballot. The American people want to give him back up. They want to protect him. They look at him as their champion and they do not want him threatened by impeachment or a stalled agenda. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. Look, I think that when you see him at some of these rallies and we're going to see him at so many more coming up. This a man who achieved what he wanted to, right? He became president. Clearly now proving this is transcending him. This now, he understands that he got his accomplishment but he still works and doubles down on knowing what the country needs, what he has got to do for them. He's in a way just kind of blended in with the nature of the power of patriotism and the greatness of the country. So, as he stands there, it's really interestingly, it is about him. He is on the ballot. But he, as a representation of all of us of the nature of what Americans want. HANNITY: Well, he can't bail out every stupid dumb boring Republicans either. (CROSSTALK) BRUCE: And he doesn't have to. HANNITY: No. BRUCE: He doesn't have to. This should be-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Some of these guys are just awful. What made them think they could run for office? BRUCE: He needs to inspire the candidates themselves. But this revolution in 2016 was despite what the Republicans were doing and despite this one. Let me say one thing about Hollywood. If they had been successful in 2016, someone like Schneiderman of the New York attorney general would probably be the attorney general of the United States. Harvey Weinstein very well could be in the administration. The Democrats have got to realize that Hollywood and who Hollywood has supported had maintained the things that made people's lives miserable, that destroyed lives. If Hillary had won none of that would have been exposed. And this is -- so when we think about Hollywood and their decision-making, bad news, bad news. HANNITY: So, there is an unknown, all the rules are changed under Trump. CROWLEY: Yes. HANNITY: I don't care what Nate Silver has to say he was wrong. BRUCE: That's right. HANNITY: They have been wrong in 2004, John Kerry was president. They were wrong in '14, nine seats picked up in the Senate. CROWLEY: Yes. HANNITY: They were wrong, way wrong. Donald Trump didn't win a state based on the exit polls date of. CROWLEY: So, Donald Trump has shattered pretty much every paradigm of what we know and expect in terms of conventional wisdom, polling and also the accepted precepts of leadership. So, the smart GOP candidates have embraced him. They brought him into their districts and into their states. They are hoping that some of his star power rubs off on them. But also, they want to be connected with him because they want voters to understand they will help Trump keep this economy going. HANNITY: You said something before you came on about how -- no Trump voter that I know of is going to talk to any pollster. BRUCE: Yes. Well, look. There is a point where now we don't look at pollsters as friendly. There is also a danger to speaking your mind. These are strangers that are calling you. We also have understood that in fact, this now is really private. This is so personal to us because we've realized the impact of politics on our personal lives. HANNITY: Predictions? BRUCE: I think that we will -- I have been saying this for a while even pre-Kavanaugh. I think we keep the House and we gain more in the Senate. CROWLEY: Agreed. We are going to retain the House-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I want everyone scared to death of Pelosi. CROWLEY: -- but everybody needs to get out and turn out and vote. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You need to go vote. BRUCE: That's why they will vote. They've got to. They know this. HANNITY: All right. More highlights from the president's raucous rally in Florida from earlier tonight. HANNITY: All right. At his Florida rally earlier tonight, the president made an important point about the divisions in this country, especially in the wake of last weekend's horrific tragedy that some on the left tried to blame him for. Take a look. (END VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: After the state of unity and togetherness, I came home and sadly turned on the news and watched as the far-left media once again used tragedy to sow anger and division. (CROWD BOOING) TRUMP: They did everything in their power to try to play it up and push people apart, that's what's happening. They are pushing people apart. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: It's all about division. Here I remind you, you have the power, six days. Quick programming note, don't miss tomorrow's show. The great (ph) Mark Levin will join us. And we're always fair and balanced. And you could shock the world. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham, hi. Load-Date: November 1, 2018 End of Document Democrats Resort to Race-Baiting and Using Anti-Trump Tactics in the Midterm Election; Laura Ingraham Interviews the Mexican Ambassador to the U.S. and Former ICE Chief Discussing about the State of the Migrant Caravan and the Actions Taken by Both Sides; President Trump Deploys U.S. Military Personnel to Southern Border Ahead of Migrant Caravan; Barbra Streisand to Release New Album; Dr. Christine Blasey Ford's Funding Measures Examined Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 31, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7886 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Matt Schlapp Guests: Dan Bongino, Scott Bolden, Thomas Homan, Geronimo Gutierrez, Raymond Arroyo, Joe diGenova, Harmeet Dhillon Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: -- happening here, pushing people apart. (END VIDEO CLIP) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: It's all about division. Hear I remind you, you have the power, six days. Quick programming note, don't miss tomorrow night's show, the great one, Mark Levin will join us. And we are always fair and balanced and you can shock the world. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham, hi. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hey Hannity, I have a question. What was your favorite Halloween costume growing up? Like what was your -- Sean: Why are you asking me about Halloween? I don't even know what Halloween is. You know what Halloween - - all right, everyone is going to take this seriously. For the record, I'm kidding, OK. Halloween kind of teaches kids to be liberal. Can I have free stuff? I said that once in the media went nuts. Hannity says Halloween is for liberals, I'm like, I'm joking. INGRAHAM: Yes. Well, you're one of those parents who (inaudible), you open the door and you take actually 70 percent of the kids candy and say how does it feel? HANNITY: Oh my gosh. You know, you are horrible. You are a horrible person. INGRAHAM: You know what, I was once -- I was -- You know what I was -- HANNITY: What did you dressed as this year? INGRAHAM: No, I didn't do anything this year. I'm just a beleaguered single mother. So, when I was 12, my friend Pam and I dressed up as bombs but you can't say bombs anymore, right. That's another costume you can do. HANNITY: Well, that's probably going to get you in trouble. I can't hear you. You're breaking up on me. Bad line. INGRAHAM: I'm sorry, but we're both -- we really had no money for costumes. We're just like (inaudible) our faces. HANNITY: Sorry, sorry, lost connection. INGRAHAM: Get out. People can laugh and have a good time. HANNITY: Listen, Halloween is for kids. Have fun, dress up, get free stuff and be jacked up on candy and you can't fall asleep. Good luck. INGRAHAM: All right, Hannity. Great show tonight as always. HANNITY: Have a great night. INGRAHAM: All right, I'm Laura Ingraham and this is the THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from a menacing Washington tonight. We are now less a week away from the crucial midterm elections and in moments, I'll lay out why it's so vital to choose treats over tricks at the ballot box. And after Don Lemon said white men represent the country biggest terror threat, CNN is all mum, no comment. We are going to explain why. Plus, what happens when the former head of ICE and the current asking Mexican ambassador to the U.S. share a set with me tonight? A blunt conversation about the caravan is ahead. And Raymond arroyo is here with a Halloween treat. Who did the voters think is the scariest politician in Washington? A special "Seen and Unseen" ahead. And what happened to all that money? Justice Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford raised through her GoFund me efforts about a million bucks. And THE INGRAHAM ANGLE deep dive, and I hate that phrase, tonight. But first, Democrat tricks versus Trump treats, that's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Democrats are putting all their candy in a new basket of candidates this Halloween and the result for Americans can be downright nauseating. Here is Democratic gubernatorial hopeful Andrew Gillum on the trick he has in store for Florida voters. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CRAIG MELVIN, NBC NEWS HOST: But you do want to raise taxes on businesses. ANDREW GILLUM, DEMOCRATIC GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE, FLORIDA: Correct, I believe that businesses ought to pay their fair share. MELVIN: You do want Medicare for all for all. GILLUM: I do believe that health care ought to be a right and not a privilege. MELVIN: So you would acknowledge that you are perhaps more progressive than -- GILLUM: Oh, well, progressive I wouldn't deny any day of the week. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Everything is free, no one has to pay anything. Now, I can't imagine that this is what Florida voters really want. Higher taxes, more spending, and more regulations that will end up choking their states' now thriving economy. And then there's another charismatic leftist, Stacey Abrams, running for governor of Georgia. Now, she has a positively spooky view of basic economics. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STACEY ABRAMS, DEMOCRATIC GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE, GEORGIA: And I am sick and tired of hearing about the free market being the solution to this problem because I've never seen a free market write a prescription in rural Georgia. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Yes, let's have state price controls, that always work well for the United States or any country. Why waste time with capitalism and socialist redistribution seems, you know, like so much more fair? Well Abrams is currently running neck and neck with Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp. And now she's trying to connect with regular folks by bringing in megastar power. Oprah is coming into town and she's hoping to be the queen maker in Georgia, and comedian Will Ferrell is going door to door to canvas for Abrams hoping that you think he's a real anchorman who knows something about politics. Former President Barack Obama and Senator Bernie Sanders are also expected in Georgia next week. And meanwhile, President Barack Obama heads down to Florida on Friday -- totally unfazed by the new revelations that his guy Andrew Gillum was again shown to be corrupt. Of course, what he did? Well, he used taxpayer funds from his mayoral office to take a private plane to meet with his donors to his gubernatorial run. When confronted on his corruption, Gillum runs to race. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GILLUM: I don't take free trips from anybody. I'm a hardworking person. I know that may not fit your description of what you think people like me do, but I work hard for every thing that I've gotten in my life and I don't need anybody handing anything for free. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, that subtext wasn't too hard to read. His frequent trick of course is used to deflect questions about his own Tallahassee sleaze by claiming that his opponent, Republican Ron DeSantis is just a blatant racist. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GILLUM: I do think that Mr. DeSantis is probably given too much harbor to racists and a xenophobe's and anti- Semites. He has spoken at conferences with them. He authored a book justifying slavery. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, now that is just a bald-faced lie. Ron DeSantis wrote a book justifying racism and slavery? It's a wonder he was ever elected to the House of Representatives. Well, we pulled to the book, it's called "Dreams from our Founding Fathers" and in it, DeSantis recounts how Alexander Hamilton and Benjamin Franklin lamented the "notorious compromises" that were made to tolerate slavery so the constitution could actually pass, they could form a government. And here's the quotation, "For anti-slavery delegates like Hamilton and Franklin, abolition of slavery would be a moot point if a failure to erect a functioning government snuffed out the ideals of the American Revolution in their infancy; then the future of all Americans, the free as well as the slave, would eventually be as serfs to a despotic government." The recitation of historical fact is not racist, nor is it justifying slavery. And either Andrew Gillum is just really not all that smart, or he's purposefully lying about something this awful and horrible. It's defamatory and it should not be tolerated or rewarded by the voters of Florida. But of course racism seems to be one of the most potent forces that the Democrats have in their trick bag this midterm season. Everywhere you turn, the refrain is the same. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) EDDIE GLAUDE, CHAIR, CENTER FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDIES: What I did wrong in 2016, is I overestimated white people. I didn't think white people would put him in office. So here he is running around the country, appealing to our darker angels, appealing to our hatreds and fears. And I'm supposed to believe that Delaware County and Ohio is not going to vote for him? That the suburbs in Pennsylvania aren't going to vote for him? DON LEMON, CNN HOST: If the evidence is there, what do you want me to do? Lie about it? I'm a journalist. I have to give the facts and the truth. The truth and the evidence points to him being a racist. He is a racist. (END VIDE CLIP) INGRAHAM: This is race baiting taken to a new low, if it's even possible to go any lower. Rather than mount credible arguments in the face of Trump's success, it's easier to tar him and all Republicans who ever supported him as racists or just members of the third Reich. They are completely race obsessed on the left. Here's Indiana's Democratic Senator Joe Donnelly who recently attempted to brag about some of his employees, or at least about their ethnicity. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JOE DONNELLY (D), INDIANA: Our state director is Indian-American, but he does an amazing job. Our director of all constituent services, she's African-American, but she does and even more incredible job than you could ever imagine. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I don't know what that is (inaudible). And at a moment when the country is focused on immigration and securing the border, Texas Democratic superstar Beto Robert Francis O'Rourke dropped this treat on MSNBC's Chris Matthews. He slipped it in his view of the border while talking about how he met his wife. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BETO O'ROURKE, DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL NOMINEE, TEXAS: We met on a blind date in El Paso before Tinder, and took her over the bridge, to Ciudad Juarez, her sister city, had a margarita at the Kentucky Club, and we just really hit it off. And I told that story to folks to kind of remind them of the bi-national nature of the U.S.- Mexico border. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Somehow, somewhere that passes as really intelligent, the bi- national nature of the border. A border is between two countries, right. So there are two but what does that mean, bi-national nature? There are two distinct nations and a border should be protected, Robert. But now compare all of those Democratic tricks, the tax hikes, the empty racism charges, the vision of an open border, abolishing ICE, all that stuff, to Trump's treats. Now, under this president, this news came out today, wages and salaries rose 3.1 percent in the third quarter, the biggest increase in a decade. The GDP expanded by 3.5 percent annual rate ahead of the 3.4 percent expectation. African-American and Hispanic unemployment are at historic lows. And the president is taking real steps like sending 5,000 troops to the border to protect our sovereignty. And your bottom line, your wallet. You will know the Democrats don't really offer any cogent argument or response, alternative to the Trump record because they expect to win via a sustained campaign of anti-Trump anger and race baiting. But like old Halloween candy, none of that is going to satisfy or sustain the country and it'll just give you a really bad aftertaste in your mouth. It's kind of bitter. And that's THE ANGLE. All right, joining me now to discuss on this Halloween, Dan Bongino, a former Secret Service agent, Scott Bolden, Democratic attorney and Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union. Matt, let's start with you. What will happen to the Democratic Party if they can't win this midterm cycle? They are moving further to the left it seems like every day and every day there is something, in my view, more unconscionable said about racism, like that comment that was made by Gillum about Ron DeSantis' book. MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONERVATIVE UNION: Which is just history. So look, here's what I fear, is that there will not be a blue wave. You can't have a blue wave when the Republicans pick up Senate seats and I think it's almost impossible for them not to pick up Senate seats. They are certainly not going to lose the majority so, there's no wave. The question is do the Democrats get back the House? Well I fear -- I hope for the country's sake the Republicans hold on to the House, which is by the way, very much in play. But what happens if these Democrats who have been told that there is this huge wave coming by almost everybody in the media and what if doesn't really happen. I fear that the people who follow these hateful rhetoric, they are going to come unglued, but I don't think that's so great for the country. INGRAHAM: Scott, Don Lemon on CNN, he used to come on my radio show every now and then. I always liked Don Lemon. I feel like people go on these other networks, I'm sorry, and I know people will say don't say you like Don Lemon, but he was like -- reasonable we disagreed on stuff but it was like a good conversation. But to hear him say that the biggest threat to the country are white men the night before last and then CNN comes out today and says we have no comment, were not going to have any comment about that. What if someone said something about black men in any way, shape, or form there and what he said, what's going on out there? SCOTT BOLDEN, CHAIR, NATIONAL BAR ASSCOCIATON PAC: I certainly don't take matters or threats to my American way or American life. SCLAPP: I don't know if Don Lemon agrees with you. (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: I know he does agree with me. If you listen to the whole quote, he was doing a comparative. I'm not making any excuses for him, I would never use the language. It was broad brush -- INGRAHAM: No boycotts or anything like that. BOLDEN: No boycotts or anything, but he was comparing what Democrats believe to be this hype about this Honduran caravan, compared to real threats in America. And what he should have said was that we know that a right wing extremist commit heinous crimes. There have been about 115 in this country and when they do the majority of those 115 have been right wing extremists including last week. INGRAHAM: At Fort Hood? How was that? How was the Navy barracks up here? About the recruiting station in Little Rock. BOLDEN: Well, I'm talking about the -- let me finish. The 115 acts, the majority of them were committed by angry white right wing extremists. And they are usually more deadly. And by the way, that same group kills more police officers on an annual basis. And so what Don was doing, I'm not going to make an excuse, but what Don was doing is doing that comparison. INGRAHAM: Yes. Our point here is that race seems to be the obsession of the left without concern of the sub- centered issues. BOLDEN: But it's Trumps obsession too. INGRAHAM: I don't think so. I think what Trump is saying is the border matters. I want to play something from Donald Trump tonight, getting back on the Democrat superstars and the tricks they have and what they are playing on the voters of their various states. This is what Trump said about Andrew Gillum, let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Andrew Gillum wants to take a wrecking ball to one of the most successful economies anywhere in the world, the Florida economy with massive tax hikes, crippling regulations, and a socialist health care takeover that would destroy your state. Andrew Gillum wants to throw open your borders to drug dealers, human traffickers, gang members, and criminal aliens. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Dan, you're in Florida, how is this playing in the state? Gillum is rated as like the megastar along with Robert Francis O'Rourke and Stacey Abrams? DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: It's not playing well at all, Laura. I live in Martin County, which is basically a 50/50 split. It's R- plus one county, meaning it's almost right down the line balanced. And I can tell you, listen, it was not a scientific sample. I'm not a pollster. I'm not claiming as such. But I make my way around the county, I get out a lot. I give a lot of speeches and I have not seen Republicans as fired up about defeating a candidate as I have for them about defeating Gillum. It has everything to do with his policies. Now, the left, of course as you point in your opening, wants to make this about race, that's absurd. It's outrageous. People in Florida move here, Laura, for a very distinct reason. I know you're familiar with Florida. People move here from the northeast to escape the taxes and big government, not to re-elect big taxes and big government in the form of big government Andrew Gillum down here in Florida. I'm going to predict, could be wrong, but I think he loses this race. I think those polls are off. INGRAHAM: I think all the news that has come out about taking the official money and the plane to the donor meeting and the FBI surveillance and dealing with -- I think all of that is bad. I want to get to something that happened on "The View," Matt, yesterday. This was Abby Huntsman, an interesting interview with Stacey Abrams. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ABBY HUNTSMAN, THE VIEW CO-HOST: Do you think that Kemp's efforts, do you think they are racially motivated? ABRAMS: I don't question his heart, I do question the results, and we know that he has disproportionately purged voters of color, stop voters of color, arrested voters of color, and that's problematic because regardless of his intent, the result is that racial bias has been injected into our system. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, I guess you could say that about Rahm Emanuel because in Chicago, people of color are also arrested, and in Hartford, Connecticut, people of color -- I mean, that's a (inaudible) trick. She's clever. She's clever. She got a lot of praise for saying I can't question his heart. SCHLAPP: Right. But he's a terrible guy. By the way, all those things are crimes. You can't keep someone from voting who has legally gone through the process to vote. All that he's talking about and other folks who care about integrity of those voter list is we have to spend money on making sure these lists comport to reality and that the people on those lists are actually eligible to vote. This is about one man, one vote because if people who aren't eligible to vote do vote, they dilute my vote, they dilute your vote, they dilute everyone's vote. (Inaudible) voter's ineligible. BOLDEN: This is actually unconstitutional -- SCHLAPP: But they're not ineligible. BOLDEN: You can't kick somebody off the list if their legally to be on it. SCHLAPP: Under the law -- BOLDEN: But he does because of this one match -- one name, one match. And so if a person gets married and their last name doesn't match or they have a hyphen with their name, those voters get pulled. Those names get pulled. SHCLAPP: Then the list gets muddied and you don't know who is supposed to vote. INGRAHAM: Well, guys, you can't board a plane -- you can't board an international flight if your passport is different from other primary identifications. BOLDEN: We're not talking about flying to another country. INGRAHAM: Now, Bolden, both of them are basic -- it's more of -- it applies across the board. BOLDEN: It could be provisional ballots, let them vote. INGRAHAM: Well, I think it's also very insulting to say or imply that minorities are unable to follow rules of voter registration which I always wondered, how do people make that point, like, that people don't have identification on them. I don't get that. BOLDEN: The name match could be from five years ago if they had been married or not married. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. INGRAHAM: Then change the law. Then Georgia should change the law. SCHLAPP: You know how this works. To get in this building tonight I had to give them an I.D. that (inaudible) to be right, it's the way it is. INGRAHAM: All right, I want to play for Dan a moment from Bill Nelson, he's obviously running for re-election in Florida, very important Senate race against Rick Scott, the current governor. And this is what he said about the atmosphere in the United States. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. BILL NELSON (D), FLORIDA: That story of Rwanda is very instructive to us. It turned into a genocide. A million people hacked to death within a few months, and we have got to watch what's happening here in America. ` (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So Trumps America is basically on the verge of having a million people hacked to death with machetes. Only time I've seen that is when we had concerns about terrorists coming into the United States but Dan, take it away. BONGINO: You know, Laura, I spent some time in Kigali, Rwanda, that's and that's a pretty disgusting horrifying charge. From a guy in Bill Nelson, who really nobody in Florida knows who he is. When you go around and ask about the Bill Nelson, they go, oh, that old senator from Nebraska? No, no, the guy here in Florida. We have a senator named Bill Nelson? Nobody knows it. No, I'm not kidding. Nobody knows him. Matt, come on, Matt. Tell me I'm lying here. SCHLAP: That was Ben Nelson. BONGINO: They have no (inaudible). That's what they say. They go, wasn't it the guy with the corn husker kickback on Obamacare? BOLDEN: He's an elected senator. What do you mean no one knows him. (CROSSTALK) BONGINO: He gets elected because he runs under the Democrat line. Nobody has -- but the point is, that is an absurd absolutely outrageous comparison. Laura, if Trump is some kind of a fascist, he is most assuredly the worst fascist in human history trying to shrink government, decrease the power of government, give you back your own money, school choice, give you back your own health care. The whole idea of a fascist is to empower government, not to dis-empower it. This is just idiotic nonsense. INGRAHAM: All right. I give all of you treats tonight. All of you treats, no tricks for you because you were all good. All right, up next a rare joint interview, live here in the studio, the former head of ICE and the current Mexican ambassador to the U.S. They sit down with me live to seek out solutions for stopping these multiple caravans heading our way. And who's behind them. You don't want to miss this (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) GERONIMO GUITIERREZ, MEXICAN AMBASSADOR TO THE U.S: We have been trying to avoid, at all costs violence in the border. Unfortunately, some of the people in the caravan have been violent against authority, even though they have offered the possibility of entering and compliance with immigration law and refugee status. (END AUDIO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The Mexican ambassador to the United States saying what many of us fear is actually happening in this caravan moving closer to our southern border. In fact, border officials say the majority of the migrants are single adult men, only about a third of them are family units. Joining me now, and a truly unique interview together, Mexican ambassador to the U.S. Geronimo Gutierrez and former acting ICE director, Tom Homan who is now a Fox News contributor. Now, let's start with you Mr. Ambassador, tell us about some of the violence inflicted on your police just over the last four or five days. GUITERREZ: The truth Laura is that the vast majority of these people are just looking for a better opportunity, but it's also true that they have had violent conducts with our police. That is why we have police presence in our southern border, the Mexican government has offered them refugee status, this is very important. A big number of them, over 2,000 have accepted that status and we continue to work to achieve making sure that there is a social safety but that the law is uphold. INGRAHAM: So, when they pushed through that barrier at the Suchiate bridge, am I getting that right? GUTIERREZ: Suchiate, yes. INGRAHAM: Suchiate Bridge -- when they pushed through, and them they crossed that river, they were supposed to stop, they didn't. Right? Is that a violation of Mexican law? GUTIERREZ: What we have made very clear to everybody is that anybody that comes into Mexico must do so legally in compliance with immigration INGRAHAM: Is that legal, what we're seeing on the videos? GUTIERREZ: No, but the fact is that, and you can understand from a moral point of view, we have to, you know, look after the safety of the children and the women that are out there. INGRAHAM: The Guatemalan minister yesterday, the minister of security yesterday told us that the women and the children in some cases are being used as shields as they were in Guatemala, put them up front so any pushback would appear to be heartless, horrible, callous, terrible, is that happening? GUTIERREZ: We have precise protocols. Our police is well-trained and we have human rights agencies there and NGOs, you know, taking a look at everything that is going on there. INGRAHAM: Tom, the NGO's in my view, however, are part of the problem. THOMAS HOMAN, FORMER ACTING ICE DIRECTOR: Yes. INGRAHAM: Pueblo Sin Fronteras. Pueblo Sin Fronteras is a group that helped organize the caravan last spring, and they are coaching a lot of these migrants on the ground especially in mexico and they are insisting the caravan moving up north, correct? HOMAN: Absolutely. They've done it in the last caravan. They're doing it in this caravan. INGRAHAM: And what does the United States at this point do? You worked in Mexico before when you were acting ICE director. We have a better relationship with Mexico I think now than we've had in quite a long time, we are actually trying to cooperate and get things done. HOMAN: Actually, when I was ICE director I have a good relationship with the ambassador and still do. We worked on a lot of good things together. Mexico has helped in many ways. The last couple years they have a arrested a lot of central Americans on their southern border, people that would have made it to the United States. So, they assist us in that manner. And as the ambassador just said, they have taken a couple of thousand that applied for asylum in Mexico, which again, good that is not going to make it here. INGRAHAM: Most don't want to come -- stay in Mexico, correct. HOMAN: Right. Correct. INGRAHAM: Most want to come to the United States. They've said that on camera multiple times. And Mexico is a great place but that's not the safe harbor they want for the most part, correct, Mr. Ambassador? GUTIERREZ: Well, it's true that many of them want to reach the United States, and I guess many people would understand why. Some of them have family members. The most important thing again is that we have offered them a very good opportunity to stay in Mexico, President Pena Nieto started a new program called "This is Your Home." It offers them services, education, health and a work opportunity, and we're -- INGRAHAM: You guys have a lot of extra cash floating around. If you're going to take all these people in, isn't Mexico kind of have a lot of -- GUTIERREZ: No, it's the right thing to do. INGRAHAM: So they could qualify as refugees under Mexican law because they are leaving for a better job, most of them are just leaving for a better job. And, you know, it's violent, but it's violent in Mexico. Mexico has violent problems. GUTIERREZ: You know, both the United States and Mexico have a shared interest in making sure that whatever migration takes place it's legal, it's safe, it's orderly, and that is not easy to achieve as Tom would say, we don't see eyeball to eyeball -- INGRAHAM: But this is being organized. The idea that this is some organic thing where people are being persecuted for their religion or as part of ethnic cleansing which is like the Rohingya, like what you're seeing there, what you saw in Rwanda (ph). That's not what's happening here. Tom, this is an organized effort and I want to play something that Mike Pence said this week, about what's going on with these caravans. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The truth is these caravans though are being driven by leftist organizations in Central America. They are, and by human traffickers who -- you need to know have no regard for human life. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What about that? HOMAN: He's 100 percent correct. First of all, you are correct that the people that do get to the United States and actually go to court, 80 percent of them are losing their cases because coming here for a better job, better life doesn't qualify for asylum. It has to be persecution based on race, religion, or political preference. But these human traffickers don't care about -- these are commodity. They're making money by moving these people north. The criminal cartels are involved. The drug cartels are involved so you got to pay a tax working through the plazas. Mexico has been a good partner. There is a couple more things Mexico could do to help us. Me and the ambassador, before I left for work (inaudible) an MOU for (inaudible) to our country. INGRAHAM: What is that MOU? HOMAN: A memorandum of understanding, we're talking about a safe third country where people that come to the United States, apply for asylum and wait in Mexico until their hearing, rather than be in the United States and go into society and never show up in court. I don't know where that's at, you know. Now they got a change in leadership in Mexico but I think if Mexico agreed to a safe third country, that would be a great alternative for the United States. It would be great. I also think Mexico could expand the biometrics. When they come across people from other countries, we have a bitmap program, they are a part of it. We can expand it so they can take biometrics from these people so we know in advance who's coming and if there are terrorists and bad people, not only do we know, the Mexican government will know. INGRAHAM: The idea that this is just -- let's go back to this. People call it a migration, like it's a migration, just a natural process. This is an organized effort, and we had the Honduran leftwing politician who was pulled out of the migrant caravan in the first few days of the caravan, he was pulled out and arrested along with two others. There's a sense that Venezuela has its hand in all of this as well. And this is what President Trump said, I think it was today before boarding Marine One about whether he's fearmongering on the caravan. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: No, I'm not fearmongering at all. We've have about 5,000, we'll go up to anywhere between 10,000 and 15,000 military personnel on top of border patrol, ICE, and everybody else at the border. Nobody is coming in. We're not allowing people to come in. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Mr. Ambassador, your reaction to that. GUTIERREZ: First of all, let me say something. If we are going to look at these comprehensively, we also need to recognize that countries benefit from legal migration. Just a few weeks ago, we had the Central Americans, the United States and Mexico co-convene a conference here. And what was very clear about that conference were three things. Number one, we need to work on development. And we need to make sure that migration is not a forced decision. And we're doing it, the United States and Mexico. INGRAHAM: It's overwhelming our system, Mr. Ambassador. It's hurting Americans and it's hurting law enforcement. It's hurting us. GUTIERREZ: It's a good investment. Laura, it's a good investment. INGRAHAM: What's happening now is not a good investment. Many people are watching this and they don't buy it. But go ahead. GUTIERREZ: But we need to work on development. INGRAHAM: Legal immigration is, legal immigration. What we are seeing is an organized hit on the border, it's organized. GUTIERREZ: But Laura, even if this caravan was not presently, we would still have that challenge, to ensure that from a regional point of view migration is legal, safe, and orderly. And the United States, Mexico, and Central America must work together to achieve it. And it's very sensitive here and that's a clear issue, but the only way that we are going to solve this is, yes, enforcing the laws, obviously, also working on development. INGRAHAM: Why are these trucks allowed to bring people up from the up to the border? Why are we seeing truck after truck, bus after bus? These NGOs are facilitating this illegality. GUTIERREZ: Just so you know, in the state of Oaxaca, for example, all transport companies just issued a statement saying they're not going to provide -- INGRAHAM: That's a heck of a lot of trucks. Trucks, buses, really dangerous, kids are being -- there's no seatbelts that I saw. Tom, are we going to have another migrant caravan soon after the second one we have? HOMAN: First of all, the president is not fearmongering. This is a national security issue, bottom line. Border security is national security. That's why the president is moving as fast he can because we have got to show the other caravans we're taking action. INGRAHAM: Thank you, both, it's great to have you both with us, as always. And it's been several news cycles since we revisited the accusations against Brett Kavanaugh by Christine Blasey Ford. Where's all that money she raised? We'll talk about that. INGRAHAM: It's time for our "Seen and Unseen" segment. Tonight's edition, Barbra Streisand is going on the road and binge eating something. And just in time for Halloween, who do voters think are the country's scariest politicians? Joining us with answers, Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the just released paperback, I love this book, "Mother Angelica, Her Grand Silence." It is awesome, Raymond. What is eating at Barbra Streisand? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, Trump, and the daily news cycle. And she claims, Laura, that not only that, Trump has forced her to eat. Here's a quote from an interview she gave to "The New York Times" today. She says "I'm just so saddened by this thing happening to our country. It's making me fat. I hear what he said now and I have to go eat pancakes now. And pancakes are very fattening." Laura, she's channeling her age not only at the maple syrup and the stack of pancakes, but into new music. She's released an album called "Walls" which comes out this week. Here's a track, I want to give you a preview, a music video that she has written and directed. INGRAHAM: Dogs across America, cover your ears with your paws. ARROYO: A very small sample. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (MUSIC) (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: There is more autotune here than in Ariana Grande album or three. (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: I can barely hear Streisand through all the autotune. Anyway, look, this is angry music, it's divisive, political music. INGRAHAM: It's just bad music. ARROYO: It's not why people come to Barbra Streisand. So now she is saying this. Heed this. listen closely. She told the "New York Times" "I've been thinking about, do I want to move to Canada? I don't know." I thought about this, if she's going to Canada, perhaps there's a way to quickly get up to Vancouver, let's say. She's already in the carpool karaoke with James Corden, so go all the way. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you really have to hear music? (MUSIC) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Let me just say about that, she has her own backing vocals underneath. Come on, she couldn't hit that note of her life depended on it. ARROYO: At least she'll have someone she likes to listen to on her way up to Vancouver, herself. Remember Chelsea Handler, Snoop Dogg, Lena Dunham, they all promised to leave the country if Trump won. They are still here. INGRAHAM: Alec Baldwin. ARROYO: But they're still here. And she'll be here, too. INGRAHAM: Why don't they go to Mexico? ARROYO: We've got to go to Kanye West. There's another celebrity, Laura, in the glare of politics. Kanye, can you believe this, it's only been three weeks since he sat in the Oval Office with the president. He's now pulling away from politics. He wrote on Twitter "My eyes are now wide open and I realize I've been used to spread messages I don't believe in." INGRAHAM: My sneakers aren't selling. ARROYO: "I'm distancing myself from politics and completely focusing on being creative." Laura, the focus of his wrath here seems to be Candace Owens. INGRAHAM: You buy that? ARROYO: I kind of do. The Blexit thing, the black exit which she was promoted, she claimed that Kanye design the t-shirt that she's selling. It turns out he didn't. She tried to correct that. He then said I don't want to be associated with this anymore and he pulled away. So that's that. INGRAHAM: I don't buy it. What did we say at the time? ARROYO: We said at the time he was probably promoting an album and to be very careful of this. We don't have time to play our best of. But just in time for Halloween, Laura, I asked the question, went on the road and asked voters, who do you consider the most scary political figure in the country. Their answers might surprise you. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Who is the scariest political figure this Halloween to you? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Maxine waters. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Maxine waters. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Maxine waters. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Maxine waters. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nancy Pelosi. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nancy Pelosi. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nancy Pelosi. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nancy Pelosi. ARROYO: As we go toward Halloween, scariest political figure? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hillary Clinton's face. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hillary Clinton. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hillary Clinton. ARROYO: Still? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Still. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The scariest person in politics today would be Donald J. Trump because he's the one who's going to run a lot of people out of the swamp. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I love the guy in the ski hat. ARROYO: So Trump ended up being the scariest of all because he can repel all the other frightening characters. So they said. INGRAHAM: Back to Kanye, you said -- ARROYO: Do you want to play it? INGRAHAM: Do we have time? Please, please? ARROYO: They don't have time. They're telling us we've don't have time. Anyway, we did say, both of us. INGRAHAM: Beware. ARROYO: And Kanye's learning the lesson that Barbra Streisand I think will learn. Keep to what you do. Entertainment us. Keep the politics out. If you don't you're going to suffer Kanye's last album, only sold 60,000 copies. He has got a new one dropping in November and he wants that one to sell. That's what explains this. INGRAHAM: Ben Affleck did really well after he worked with Hillary. Didn't he have a big -- (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Anyway, thanks, Raymond. See you later for our first anniversary, unending celebration, apparently it just never stops. ARROYO: It goes on. INGRAHAM: Don't miss that. But next, remember all the pundits and politicians who told us that Christine Ford had nothing to gain by coming forward to accuse Justice Kavanaugh of sexual assault? That's not the whole story. Joe diGenova and Harmeet Dhillon are here next to break it all down. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Take a look at Dr. Ford. She came forward out of a sense of civic duty. She has nothing to gain. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She has nothing to gain from coming forward like this. Her life has been upended. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She had nothing to gain and everything to lose by coming forward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's a serious matter who serves on that court, and she has the courage to come forward. She has nothing to gain. What does she have to gain? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, really? Well, it seems that she did have something to gain. According to the GoFundMe account set up, all those on her behalf, she raised nearly $1 million in donations, and at least one report said she has received several book offers to boot. Joining me to discuss all this, former U.S. attorney Joe diGenova, attorney Harmeet Dhillon. Harmeet, I want to start with you. Justice Kavanaugh has declined the money raised on his behalf and it's going to charity. Is it incumbent on Ford to do the same? HARMEET DHILLON, ATTORNEY: She raised the funds, or the funds were raised on her behalf allegedly for security, travel, and associated expenses related to her legal appearance. And so I think in terms of the premise on which she raised the money, certainly she has raised a heck of a lot more money than what was needed for these causes. So it would be the right thing to do. But what is weird about it is she is actually continuing to raise the money weeks after the hearing. She's put out statements on GoFundMe that she still has expenses, she still needs more money. So it is getting a taint of pure commercialism here and not for the purposes that it was orginally intended. So I think it's inappropriate. INGRAHAM: Joe, I want to go to you. We got a statement tonight from her counsel saying the following, "These funds have been used exclusively for necessary costs of physical security and housing occasioned by coming forward about her sexual assault by Brett Kavanaugh," which I don't believe. "Justice Kavanaugh ascended to the Supreme Court but threats to Dr. Ford continue. All unused funds will be donated to organizations that support trauma survivors." Your reaction, Joe. Do you buy any of that? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: No, I do not. Dr. Ford -- and I use the word "doctor" advisedly -- has converted her testimony into money. She has monetized this outrageous, phony performance that she did before the Senate Judiciary Committee into money. She didn't want to come forward, everyone says. By golly, isn't it amazing how everything about her just became public so she had to come forward? Whatever her lawyer says is irrelevant at this point. This is no longer the silly nonsense that lawyers like that like to pretend when something is over. This was an ugly abuse of power by the Democrats with the assistance of Ford and her lawyers, Debra Katz and Michael Bromwich. The money that is being made now is dirty money, it's filthy money, it's just like drug money, it's awful. What they did to the senatorial confirmation process is inexcusable. Shame on her, shame on her lawyers, and, by the way, I didn't believe a single word of her testimony. INGRAHAM: I didn't believe it either. And Harmeet, when you think about other people who raise these outrageous claims that were unsubstantiated, no corroboration contemporaneous or really otherwise, Avenatti is having to now endure a Congressional to federal investigation on what he did. But I still say that Feinstein and her whole office should be investigated for that initial leak that put this whole country and Kavanaugh through all this. The idea that they can skate on that, I just think that's not the kind of senatorial courtesy I think the American public deserves of this process deserves. Harmett? DHILLON: I completely agree with you, Laura. The senators in question have absolutely made a mockery of this process and casually drive by destroying of people's lives without any consequences. And it has been going on for a while. And when you couple this particular episode with the fact that around the election, major Democratic donors were offering $750,000 and up to people to accuse Donald Trump of gross crimes, you had to completely disregard. There is no barriers for these people, there's no boundaries, there's no decorum, and it's a complete abuse of the process. And so I think Joe is right on point. It's drug money, it's dirty money, it's a perversion of our process. INGRAHAM: Joe, really quick, Mueller, the allegations that Republican operative, this Jack Burkman, people never heard of him, that he was trying to get someone to accuse Mueller of something. What is there? DIGENOVA: I have no idea. And I think the notion that Bob Mueller is asking for an investigation of some unknown fantasy people making allegations about him is nonsensical. But it's part and parcel of the embarrassment that the Mueller operation has become. And we have one person to thank for it, Rod Rosenstein, perhaps the most embarrassing deputy attorney general in the history of our country. INGRAHAM: President Trump seems to have a better relationship with Rod right now. I asked him about that the other night. DIGENOVA: Yes. The president is trolling Tod, that's what that's all about. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Joe, Harmeet, thanks so much, happy Halloween. We're celebrating another day, why not, one-year anniversary of THE ANGLE. And up next, some of our best moments and the heights. What does that mean? And the falls, stay there. INGRAHAM: You don't want to miss this. Without further ado, here are more of our favorite moments from year one of THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Welcome, everyone, to the debut of THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. All I'll say is I'm going to call it as I see it. I'm going to get answers for you, and I'm going to hold the powerful accountable. And that includes you, Mr. President. SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: THE INGRAHAM ANGLE starts right now, two minutes late. INGRAHAM: Can you do a voiceover? I actually want you to voice that over for me, and we'll play that every night instead of the graphic. Trump calls out to the real Russian collusion, that's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. What they are teaching our children, that's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. The anatomy of a freak out, that's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. The Democrats Me Too suicide mission, that's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Meet the chairman. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. I had a horrible dream last night, one of those you wake up in a cold sweat types. The calendar read Wednesday, November 7th, and the Democrats gain control of the House of Representatives. Could I aspirate you? ARROYO: Me? It is this what you mean by seen and unseen? INGRAHAM: This actually works. This is great. If only Nancy Pelosi was here. ARROYO: Thanks a lot. INGRAHAM: Just a joke. ARROYO: Can you bring me back? INGRAHAM: No, you're gone. You're disappeared. We have unbelievable news, it's groundbreaking information, you're not going to want to miss it. If you have to go to the bathroom, pause us because you're not going to want to miss this. ARROYO: Smile. INGRAHAM: Go to the edge. INGRAHAM: The ACLU used to care about the rights of the accused. ARROYO: You threw me down in such a cruel fashion, heartless. INGRAHAM: My hand slipped a little bit. ARROYO: You pushed me with great vigor. I will give you a hug for a buck-thirty. INGRAHAM: You get nothing. Get away from me, don't touch me, get away! No, no. Get away! This is really a sign of the decline of society. ARROYO: The staff and I are presenting you with a rose, but I want you to know, I'm going to take this back before the show is over. (LAUGHTER) (END VIDEOTAPE) ARROYO: At the end I did take it back, but tonight on your first anniversary, we are giving you another rose. I'm not good to fight you over this. INGRAHAM: You told me to bring this to my house. ARROYO: I know. I didn't have one. INGRAHAM: Wait a second, you're giving me a rose that you told me -- ARROYO: Those are called props, Ingraham. Don't ruin the drama for everybody. INGRAHAM: Oh, my God. ARROYO: I could take it back. In fact, since you're so ungrateful, I'll keep it. I'll do it again. INGRAHAM: Alexis says bring a rose from your house, Raymond needs it for the show. What. ARROYO: There were no florists open. They're out of season. We tried. INGRAHAM: Oh, my God. Coming up, one more surprise for THE INGRAHAM ANGLE'S first anniversary next. INGRAHAM: OK, I told my kids I would show the photo of them tonight, do we have it, when they went out trick-or- treating. There they are. Maria is an M&M, Niko is Jack Sparrow, and Dmitri is, what is that? The Grim Reaper. ARROYO: The Grim Reaper. OK, we're going to do -- we have to light the final cake. Oh, my God. INGRAHAM: Raymond. ARROYO: I'm so sorry, Laura. Load-Date: November 1, 2018 End of Document One Week Until Crucial Midterm Elections; President Trump's Solemn Pittsburgh Visit; Analysts Say The Race For The House And The Senate Are Really Tight For Both Republicans And Democrats, But Republicans Must Have A Strong Message In Order To Win The House Because Trump's Agenda And His Accomplishments Will Be Twisted If Democrats Take Back Control From The GOP Majority; The Media, As Always, Blaming President Trump Whenever There's Something Bad Happening In The Country Just Like The Synagogue Massacre In Pittsburgh Where 11 People Were Killed, But They Never Commented Anything About Democrats Hanging Out With Anti-Semitic Leader, Louis Farrakhan Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 30, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7302 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Doug Schoen Guests: Ronna McDaniel, Pam Bondi, John McLaughlin, Darrell Scott, Alan Dershowitz, Mike DeWine, Lindsey Graham Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Great show, Tucker. Good to see you. And welcome to HANNITY. One week from tonight, seven days, you will tune into the FOX News Channel, the fate of your government rests in your hands. So much at stake, your paycheck, your taxes, your retirement, your 401(k). Your economy, immigration, border wall, originalist federal justices, due process, presumption of innocence, peace through strength and so much more. I argue tonight that we are at a crossroads in this country will either get better or worse. In one week, you have the power. Not the pundits, not the fake news network, not the pollsters, you get to decide and shock the world. Coming up, we'll profile all of the biggest races all across the country. We'll explain the three possible election outcomes. And also tonight, President Trump just wrapped up a very solemn trip to Pittsburgh where he, the First Lady Melania, met with the victims and mourned this weekend's horrific attack. Vile, evil deranged monsters like this man responsible for Saturday's anti-Semitic massacre will never define us as a country, even though there are people that try to politicize such tragedies. Unbelievable. We will respond to all of that hateful coverage that you've been watching. Not here of course. All right. So, sit tight, buckle up. We have a busy show. Time for our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. One week from tonight, you tune into the Fox News Channel, the election results at this hour will be pouring in. The balance of power and Capitol Hill will be decided. You will definitely see one of three results. In the best-case scenario, Republicans pick up seats in the Senate. That helps with confirmations of Supreme Court justices and holds onto a small majority in the House of Representatives. The second scenario could happen, split decision. This is what most analysts are predicting and the GOP would hold onto power in the Senate, pick up seats, but lose the House and, yes, Nancy Pelosi would be the next speaker of the House. Third, worst-case scenario involves Republicans losing both the House and Senate -- meaning you get Speaker Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Schumer. Oh, I'd like to say it's unlikely. That would pretty much be an unmitigated disaster and a really bad night. We've had them before, kind of like when Obama won twice, but you can prevent that. Thankfully, the Senate is looking pretty strong for the Republicans. We look at North Dakota, Democrat incumbent Heidi Heitkamp is now down by double digits against Republican Kevin Cramer. In Nevada, GOP Senator Dean Heller, he is maintaining a consistent, but it's always a tough state, lead against his opponent. Then we have incumbent Indiana Democratic Senator Joe Donnelly now down to Republican Mike Braun. It's a little complicated in Indiana because there's a libertarian on the ticket and that would split and siphon away votes mostly from the Republican Braun and help Donnelly, so libertarian vote pretty much is a vote for Chuck Schumer and Donnelly. Meanwhile in Florida, razor, razor-thin, close as it can be. Well, Rick Scott, one of the most effective governors in the c history of the state, bringing in over 2 million jobs in his term and he's in a very close race against Democratic do-nothing Senator Schumer wannabe incumbent Bill Nelson. And let's not forget about this all important race in Arizona. You know, American hero Republican Martha McSally, a vet, 28 years, six tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. Her opponent, Kyrsten Sinema, a radical disgrace for decades, even trashing the people of Arizona, calling them crazy, comparing the state to a meth lab of democracy and she says Arizona is famous in a Lindsay Lohan kind of way, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. 2003, not long after the 2001 trade center attacks, she even suggested it was OK if Americans go fight for the Taliban, our enemies. She also promoted events at Arizona State University featuring a radical far left lawyer, the one who were presented, oh, radical blind sheikh. And then, by the way, Sinema organized antiwar rally with self- described witches. As Martha McSally said, while she was fighting for a country she was running antiwar protests and wearing a pink tutu. And yesterday, Project Veritas unleashed a private video showing how she and her campaign are caught on tape openly admitting just how far left she is. But she's hiding it from the people of Arizona. It's amazing how consistent the Democrats are. Don't tell them what we really think. We can't win on who we really are. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEOAPE) MICHELLE DAVIDSON, SINEMA'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER: I mean, I think you have to look at this why Kyrsten approach is so, I think, important. We can't be talking about this with Republicans now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. DAVIDSON: We can't, right? LAUREN FROMM, SINEMA'S FIELD ORGANIZER: There's a lot of very conservative people in Arizona and so she can't alienate the conservative or moderate conservative voters by being super pro- she is pro-choice. She is very liberal, she's progressive. But she doesn't, in this election, want to draw too much attention to being progressive because she's trying to be more -- that's why I think she took so much Democratic help, too. Otherwise she wouldn't have won also. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) move up, become powerful. KYRSTEN SINEMA (D-AZ), U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE: I believe that we should offer citizenship to every person in this country who isn't bad. You know, if you haven't committed a bad crime, you know, then you should get a path to citizenship. That's what I believe. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, Sinema is the latest Democrat caught on tape by ProjectVeritas.com. Arizona, do you really want to put someone that thinks it's okay to fight with the Taliban, that radical, in the U.S. Senate? Now, the campaigns of, let's see, Democrats Claire McCaskill, Phil Bredesen, Heidi Heitkamp, they were all exposed on camera proving our point. If you want to win and you are a Democrat, you cannot reveal who you really are or what you really believe in. You've got to lie to your constituents. That is pathetic. Senator McCaskill, members of her staff revealing their far left plans, strip gun rights from law-abiding American citizens in Missouri -- by the way, always voting with Obama, not voting very often with Trump at all. McCaskill should be defeated in a state that is Trump territory. In Tennessee, Phil Bredesen, well, his staff admitting that he would never support actually Kavanaugh's nomination if elected and that people in his own state are kind of ignorant despite promising otherwise. Caught in a lie. Lying to the people of Tennessee. Marsha Blackburn, she is up in the latest polls there. If Republicans have a really, really good night, if you want to be optimistic, why not, right? Democratic incumbent Manchin is now down 2 in West Virginia. This is a real race. Tester in Montana is within the margin of error, only up 3. He could be defeated. Corrupt New Jersey Democrat Bob Menendez now at risk of losing that race, now within the margin of error. Nobody saw that coming. And meanwhile, the balance of power in the House is very much up for grabs at this hour. "Real Clear Politics" putting 204 House races in the Democratic column, 199 in the Republican column. Thirty-two toss ups will decide the majority. To make it simple, we are putting up on the screen, we have all of this on hannity.com detailing, you know, the balance of power. These races will tip that balance. And by the way, there could be as few as a four-point win either side. All these races you're looking at are neck and neck. And tonight, also, we're tracking one gubernatorial race very closely. That's Republican Ron DeSantis of Florida in a very tight race against radical Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum, far left corrupt socialist calling for a 40 percent tax hike for businesses in Florida. That will destroy the economy of Florida. Gillum is actually facing an ongoing federal investigation into serious corruption and accepting bribes valued at thousands of dollars from undercover agents, including tickets to the hit Broadway play "Hamilton' and a luxury vacation. Florida, you better wake up. You cannot let that man be your governor or you will see your economy tank. Early voting has now started all over America. If your state has early voting, you want to go vote, get it done. Ask yourself this question tonight, are you better off than you were two years ago? Is the economy better off? Have burdensome regulations on businesses been cut dramatically more than at any other time in our generation? Are we now finally on a real path to becoming energy independent? The lifeblood of our economy? Do we now have better trade deals? Oh, and is little rocket man talking about denuclearization of the Korean peninsula? Has he stopped shooting rockets over Japan? Is our relationship with Israel better? Do we pull out of that disastrous Iranian deal? Are we having better relations in terms of a new coalition? Israel, the U.S., Jordan. Egypt, the Saudis, to stand up against Iranian hegemony? Did we get to originalists as promised on the U.S. Supreme Court? Do you care about presumption of innocence or are you worried about protecting your borders tonight? Do you support the president's new plan to end birthright citizenship for those who came to this country illegally? Do you want a wall on our southern border? Well, one week from tonight, one week from today, all of it is on the ballot. Get to the polls and vote or else you get the government you will deserve. You will wake up on November 7th and you will hear Speaker Pelosi or soon to be Speaker Pelosi, Speaker-elect Pelosi, Senate Majority-elect Chuck Schumer. Let's see, Maxine Waters, Adam shifty Schiff, Jerrold Nadler, Elijah Cummings, they will all be committee chairmen and women. That is not going to be good. The Democratic agenda will become reality. What do they want? Open borders. They want to keep Obamacare. Really? How did that work out for you? They want their crumbs back. They want higher taxes. They want activist justices on the court. They will open endless investigations into the president. They will block any investigation into the deep state. Mark my words: America gets the government they deserve. But polls are often wrong. So, on the one hand tonight, we are going to go over the poll numbers, but on the other hand, they were wrong -- if you look at the exit polls in 2004 and 2016, John Kerry was supposed to be president and so was Hillary Clinton, they often get the polls wrong. By the way, Hillary -- she still hasn't quite recovered. She's still forcing her way into the public stage. Not really a pretty picture, including recently when she made this offensive joke. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON (D), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I don't want to paint with a broad brush, every immigrant is this, every African-American is that, every other, you know, person with different religious beliefs or whatever, that's childish. UIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What do you think of Cory Booker -- CLINTON: I adore him. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ye, what you think about him saying kick them in the shins essentially, start to get to that kind of political -- CLINTON: That was Eric Holder. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That was Eric Holder. Sorry. CLINTON: I know they all look alike. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, they don't. (LAUGHTER) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, well done. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The mainstream media all but ignored those remarks. I just wonder, how would they have reacted if Donald Trump said it? You can hear the audience laughed, cheered, moderator grinned ear to ear. But what if a Republican made that same comment? We all know the outrage or feigned, I guess it would be, moral outrage and selective moral outrage of fake news CNN and conspiracy TV MSNBC and elsewhere it would be nonstop, all conservatives painted as racists. Today, President Trump, he visited the site where an actual racist, vile, anti-Semitic monster attacked a synagogue, killing 11, injuring six others. The president, the First Lady Melania met with the victims, mourned this horrible attack and sadly even as we speak, the mainstream media, those on the left are still going to great lengths, lying to paint a false narrative picture of the president, of FOX News, talk radio and even many of you, the American people. Racist, condoning and inciting such reprehensible violence night after night, day after day, minute after minute. They paint all conservatives, most Republicans as cancerous hate-mongers. Let's take an example. "GQ" writer Julia Ioffe yesterday on fake news CNN Jake Tapper's show. She actually said that Trump is worse than ISIS and we are getting lectured by CNN lecturing the president on civility. This is a joke. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JULIA IOFFE, "GQ" WRITER: I think this president, one of the things that he really launched his presidential run on is talking about Islamic radicalization and this president has radicalized so many more people than ISIS ever did. I think the president has far more supporters who espouse an equally hateful ideology. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: After not pushing back at all, Jake Tapper later gave Ioffe an opportunity to explain the remarks. She partially apologized, then continue to just bash President Trump in one breath. And, of course, she wasn't banned from fake news CNN or MSNBC. Instead, they just continue to feature her as the great guest over and over again. All week, she's been spewing absurd anti-Trump hatred and the mainstream media apparently loving it. But they lecture us on civility. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) IOFFE: This tale of anti-Semitic comments, anti-Semitic tropes seem to follow him everywhere. There might be fire where that anti-Semitic smoke is. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You say that Trump sets the tone. He has allowed bigots go about their business. IOFFE: Absolutely. The ways in which he condemns racists where you can see it so half-hearted. It's like a kid being forced to do something by his parents. It's interesting you mentioned World War II because when Donald Trump said that he was a nationalist, he didn't just off the cuff say he was a nationalist. At that point, I think, kind of the racism and anti-Semitism that he had been winking at in these dog whistles I think became a vuvuzela. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And, of course, the media lecturing the president on civility and tone on talk radio and civility and tone and lecturing FOX News, they wonder why people chant that they suck constantly, regularly. There's no introspection, no internal conversation that maybe they've earned it and the president calls them fake news and they bubble and fizz like Alka- Seltzer in water and with just one week to go until election day, Ioffe, others, mainstream media speaking literally now in one hysterical voice of the Democratic Party desperate to win in seven days. "NewsBusters" study in the lead up to the midterms, mainstream media's coverage of President Trump coverage has been ten times more negative than the coverage of all Democratic candidates combined. And, of course, we see it every two and four years -- racist, sexist, you've heard my list, but this time it's even worse. Now, the mainstream media literally trying to link President Trump, FOX News, talk radio, everyone they disagree with and hate anyway with vile atrocities, with an anti-Semitic attack that took place in Pittsburgh. I'm not making it up. We got the tape. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right and we have to start doing something about them. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, if you guys stop saying mean things about me, I'll stop inciting angry lunatics to kill you. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whether the president knew what he was saying, the alleged gunman certainly heard something that resonated. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What a Trump is doing is stoking and inciting for the purposes of political power the worst amongst us to take action in his name. Anybody who sits there and says that there is not causality between these events and the incitement is as dishonest as they are blind. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think you have to be a rocket scientist to draw the lines between these people and the rhetoric that is being parroted by the president of the United States right now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The racists and the anti-Semites think that he is perfectly tolerant of racial violence and anti- Semitic violence. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Yes, the president is the most pro-Israel president in our lifetime. Ask the prime minister of Israel. Ask Ron Dermer. They are pointing it out. And to blame individuals like this is beyond hateful. We'll get to that later. And so, we have anti-Trump hatred. It's become so unhinged, even the rabbi from the synagogue that was attacked, he's getting hate mail. Why? Because he's meeting the president who was going to mourn the lives of innocent people killed. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I first said that the president was welcome, I received a lot of emails, too numerous to count. I can't keep track for every mail I read, two appears as I'm reading that one. So, I just cannot keep up with it. I've received many emails that are not happy with those words. The thing that saddens me is those emails also contain hate, and it just continues in this vicious cycle. Hate promulgating more hate promulgating more hate, and that's just not the solution. We need to be better than this. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Pretty despicable. We do need to be better than this. The violence has got to stop. The threats, the intimidation have no place in this country. Sadly many on the left, political differences now just demonize somebody you disagree with. To them, Republicans are evil, the president is evil, FOX News, talk radio is evil. It's why you see this kind of rhetoric, over the top from liberals like -- oh, actor James Cromwell saying this week that there will be, quote, blood in the streets if Democrats don't take back power and destroy the president's agenda. Tried to walk it back, good luck with that. This kind of rhetoric is not only surprising, but it's regular. The left is using the politics of fear for decades. I tell you every election season. Every two years, every four years, this is what they do, this is their playbook. So, will you stand against the vilification of political differences? Are you going to buy into these hysteria, this vile, vicious untrue attacks? Are you going to let Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer control the fate of your government? Is there anything the Democrats are offering to you, the American people, to help this country become a better place? To help its citizens, the forgotten men and women? The same party of Obama's record failures. What about appealing for impeachment for no reason, endless bickering, obstruction. That's all they're offering. Health care? Oh, how does that promised, keep your doctor, keep your plan, and pay less work out for America? It was horrible. Most people have one provider, that's it. No choices. Losing doctors, losing plans. You think open borders is smart? Really? We are not a country that has sovereign borders, the rule of law? They want to eliminate ICE? They want more sanctuary cities and states and free health care whether you are a citizen or not? They want to take back your crumbs and say so? Really? They want to pick your pocket of every dime you have. They want liberal activists, judges on the court. In other words, they want to bring back the failed policies of Obama's. Is that what you want? Are you better off than you were two years ago today? Is America better off? Is the economy better off? Are we more secure as a country? That decision will be yours in seven days. You can once again shock the world. Joining us now, RNC chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, along with Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi. You know, I looked down in Florida, I'm shocked that a guy like Gillum, who wants to raise business taxes 40 percent, is under corruption investigations, has said awful things about law enforcement, wants to impeach the president, Medicare for all. I don't know who's going to pay for it. How is this even a close race? And the same with Bill Nelson. What is -- is there any one thing anyone could say Nelson has done in the century that he's been there? PAM BONDI (R), FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Yes, I can. He's only passed 1 percent of the bills in the 45 years that he's been in political life. It's unreal. The man has basically done nothing. He's voted for higher taxes 300 times versus Rick Scott, a businessman, a career businessman, who has turned our state around. We are in the black. He's created millions of jobs. He has lowered taxes. Our state is in the best shape it's been in because of Rick Scott. He's a businessman and he wants to serve in the Senate. Then you take that down to the governor's race with Gillum, like you said. This guy signed the Dream Defenders pledge. People go online and look at that pledge -- anti-gun, anti-law enforcement, anti-jail, anti-police. Versus Ron DeSantis, who has dedicated his life to service. He's an Iraqi veteran. He served in the war for us. This guy -- it's unreal. He believes in lower taxes. He cares about our state. People have got to get out and vote, Sean. This election is crucial. HANNITY: Ronna, let me run through the states, yes or no, does Rick Scott and DeSantis win Florida? Polls show it's neck and neck. RONNA MCDANIEL, RNC CHAIRWOMAN: I think they do win Florida. At the president is going down to Florida tomorrow. He's going to go down a second time before Election Day, and Pam just laid out the differences between these candidates. I mean, Gillum is extreme. He will destroy the Florida economy. HANNITY: Right, but let me ask you other questions. I want to move on. MCDANIEL: Go ahead. HANNITY: Marsha Blackburn, does she beat the guy caught lying on tape, Bredesen? Does she win? MCDANIEL: Yes, I think Marsha Blackburn wins Tennessee. HANNITY: Is Claire McCaskill in that case, Hawley win? MCDANIEL: We are seeing that race narrow. We need Missourians to go out and vote. But I think Josh Hawley wins that race. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How does Dean Heller do in Nevada? MCDANIEL: Dean Heller is doing great right now in Nevada and we also have two potential pickups in the House in the third and fourth districts. HANNITY: What about Arizona? Will Sinema, the radical, have any chance against McSally? Because those polls are dead even. MCDANIEL: Yes, Sinema is the greatest actress on the planet and she deserves an Oscar for her award-winning change, but I think McSally pulls that out. Listen, it's narrowing. It is neck and neck. HANNITY: North Dakota, Heitkamp is in -- MCDANIEL: Cramer will be the next senator from North Dakota. HANNITY: And what about Jon Tester? Could he lose? It looks like it. MCDANIEL: He can and the president is the biggest aid. Every time he goes into that state, we see Rosendale go up. HANNITY: What about other states we're looking? Indiana, I hope people don't vote libertarian. MCDANIEL: Indiana, Braun has opened up a lead. West Virginia, Manchin is on the ropes. You look at New Jersey. HANNITY: What about New Jersey? MCDANIEL: Yes, New Jersey -- I mean, listen, it is within the margin of error. Bob Menendez is a crook. Bob Hugin is a businessman. These are states that we can win. HANNITY: Last question, while Republicans hold the House? MCDANIEL: I think we'll hold the House, but it's going to be tight. We've got to get out and vote. HANNITY: I would argue that tonight we are down five seats by my measure. Pam? BONDI: Got to vote. Everybody's got to get out there and vote. John James, Michigan, Bill Schuette for governor of Michigan. Got to vote. HANNITY: Another great, he's a star. John James has cut the lead down to 6 in Michigan. You're right. All right. Good to see you both. Appreciate it. When we come back, we have surprising numbers coming out ahead of the midterms. We will look at the polls. Doug Schoen, John McLaughlin will look all across the Senate and the House of Representatives. You vote one week from today. HANNITY: All right. So, the midterm election is one week from today and some races are down to the wire. As of today, "RealClearPolitics" map has Democrats up 5 in the House. That's how close it is. Joining us now to help explain where things stand, FOX News contributor, former Clinton pollster Doug Schoen, former Trump campaign pollster John McLaughlin. Doug, you were on with me, it's funny, it's what the polls show. So, you got, what, 32, what we say toss ups in the country. DOUG SCHOEN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Right. HANNITY: You told me just a couple of days ago, you said Democrats plus 5. SCHOEN: Yes. HANNITY: Actually tonight, if the election were held today, I think you're right. I think the Democrats would get the House because Republicans have to sweep those 32 races. My hope is, is that the Trump voters understand the severity of Nancy Pelosi being speaker and that that would overcome that deficit. SCHOEN: Yes, I think that's a hope, Sean, not a reality. I think the Democrats will win narrowly. I would say that I don't see the blue wave materializing that the Democrats hoped would show up but there are enough vacancies, open seats and frankly Democratic -- HANNITY: You have 45 retirements and you got the headwind of history. SCHOEN: Right. HANNITY: But if they pick up seats in the Senate, that's the split decision that most people are calling tonight, one week out, John McLaughlin. But pundits are wrong. They were wrong in 2014, 2016, 2004. Just a few examples off the top of my head. JOHN MCLAUGHLIN, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN POLLSTER: Right, they are wrong again. But you know what? I can't disagree with you or Doug right now because there are too many open seats. And the election really depends upon a turnout from the rest of this week and on Tuesday, because the early voting states, you see the Republicans are doing better than -- they are doing about what they did in '16 - (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: In Florida. MCLAUGHLIN: -- in Florida but not as well as they did in '14 because the Democrats and the anti-Trump vote are coming out a little bit better. So, we really have to watch that. Plus, you can't let up on election day. Remember, everybody was saying a year ago when you had Virginia and Alabama, they were saying, gee, the Democrats won't come out, we'll get our vote out it will be a usual turn out. No. Instead of 2.2 million in Virginia had 2.6 million and there was 11 percent more Democrats. This year the Republicans have to stay fired up right through Tuesday. And that's what the president is out there doing the rallies that he's doing. And he's kind of get polling needs to catch up-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's kind of carrying a lot of these guys on their back. MCLAUGHLIN: Yes. HANNITY: All right. So, you would say tonight that Republicans are a little behind in the House and there's got to be some urgency. We put up on my web site Hannity.com those races that will tip the balance of power. But really, every race matter. There's always a couple of surprises somewhere. What about the Senate? How many -- we'll start with you, John. How many Republicans, do you think they pick up seats, if so, where and how many? MCLAUGHLIN: that's where the Republicans have put in their resources. They probably should put more back into the House, but they will pick up three, four, maybe five seats in the Senate because in those states, being with Trump or without Trump really matters because you have 26 out of the seats up for grabs are Democratic seats. Ten are in states that Trump won. So Heidi Heitkamp is in trouble. Manchin is in trouble in West Virginia. I think McCaskill is going to lose in Missouri. So, you've got a trend where Democratic incumbents are in big trouble. Like you've been saying in Indiana if they vote for the Republican instead of the libertarian, Donald is in trouble in Indiana. So, the Republicans are doing-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. So, what do you see in the Senate? You believe the Republicans hold the Senate as a Democrat, Doug Schoen? SCHOEN: Yes, I do. I'm a little less bullish on the Republican chances than you and John. I think Arizona remains in play, Indiana is within the margin of error. I don't really believe that necessarily McCaskill goes down but I have to say, all the trends are moving toward the extent there are trends in the direction of the Republicans. The only contrary state now is Arizona. Nevada remains within the margin of error but moving marginally in the direction of the Republicans. HANNITY: Yes. Look, Florida to me is too close to call. I think we hold Tennessee. I do think Claire McCaskill loses. I think that Project Veritas tape has hurt her. Her lying about her R.V. trip hurt her, her voting reliably Schumer hurt her. She's not a moderate. I think you're right about Nevada. We hold that. I think Kyrsten Sinema is in trouble because as more and more gets known about here. Heitkamp is going to leave. Tester is going to be a tight race in Montana. I think Donnelly if they vote libertarian, John is right, we win that. And then interestingly, even West Virginia is in play now. Even New Jersey might be in play. SCHOEN: Yes. I think the Democrats will hold New Jersey, hold Tester and it won't be three or four, I think it will be a couple of seats but clearly the Republicans are poised to hold the Senate as the Democrats win the House. HANNITY: All right. But John, you do say Republicans can come back. MCLAUGHLIN: Yes. HANNITY: What is it going to take for them to make up that five seats, say, deficit if we are all right? Because we are all agreeing. A little behind tonight on the House. MCLAUGHLIN: You said the magic words, stop Pelosi. Fifty-five percent of Americans don't like her, 30 percent -- 30 percent are favorable to her. We've seen it where they don't want her as a speaker. Even Democrats don't want her as the speaker. So, we've got to draw that contrast between her. HANNITY: By the way, Doug is not going to admit it, he doesn't want her. He's not going to admit it. SCHOEN: No. I will say it here. No Pelosi, no impeachment, yes to the Democrats. HANNITY: All right. One week from tonight, let's see how smart we are. All right. When we come back, more of the media's shameful, despicable double standard. Democrats for years have been palling around with radical racist anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan. You almost hear nothing about it. We've got the full report. That's next. Straight ahead. HANNITY: In the wake of the synagogue Pittsburgh massacre, the media has been vilifying President Trump saying his rhetoric is somehow connected to this horrific shooting. Now the media is saying next to nothing about major Democrats, their connections to one of the biggest racists and anti-Semites in America, Louis Farrakhan Nation of Islam. Here's what Farrakhan said about the Jewish people. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LOUIS FARRAKHAN, LEADER, NATION OF ISLAM: The Jews don't like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. The satanic Jews. They control everything and mostly everybody. There were many Israelis and Zionist Jews in key roles in the 9/11 attacks. See the Jews have control over those agencies of government. The powerful Jews are my enemies. Farrakhan, by God's grace has pulled the cover off of that satanic Jews. Call me an anti-Semite. Stop it! I'm anti-termite. (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And we could spend all night on the racist side of him. Joining us now, author of "The Case Against Impeaching Trump," Harvard law school professor Alan Dershowitz, and CEO of the National Diversity Coalition for the president, Pastor Darrell Scott is with us now. You know what bothers me? I've got pictures, Alan Dershowitz, of Bill Clinton, what, two months ago. ALAN DERSHOWITZ, PROFESSOR, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL: Right. HANNITY: Sitting three seats down from this virulent racist and anti- Semite who I have gone after my whole career. Eight years after Obama, then the picture comes out of Farrakhan and Obama. You know, he hung out with a lot of other radicals in Chicago as well. Then we've got Keith Ellison. Nobody ever wants to talk about Keith Ellison who associated with this guy. This is one of -- this guy is evil and then they blame Trump, who I think is the pro -- most pro-Israeli president in our lifetime in a generation. The only one that had the guts to make Jerusalem the capital. A great relationship with the prime minister. We are truly friends and partners and best allies and they accuse him of causing what this horrible terrorist act in the synagogue? DERSHOWITZ: Well, you know, I'd like to put what I call a testing hypothetical. When I was a professor I always asked hypothetical questions. What if Bill Clinton's, one of his people that he loved in the area of country and western music died and Bill Clinton was invited to sit at his memorial service and he walked in and three seats away from him was David Duke? Is there anybody in the world who believes that Bill Clinton wouldn't have gotten up and left? But he didn't leave when he was seated three seats away from Farrakhan. What's the reason for that? Does he think that somehow Duke is worse than Farrakhan? Farrakhan has a much bigger following and is much more of -- advocates the kind of violence that we saw. Is it that you have a different standard when you have a black bigot than when you have a white bigot? That won't wash. You know, I'm so disappointed in my friend Bill Clinton. I voted for him twice, I regard him as a friend but I cannot imagine how he can sit next to one of the most evil anti- Semites in the world. The black caucus has welcomed Farrakhan. Other leaders of Congress have welcomed Farrakhan. It's an extraordinary double standard. There has to be one standard against anti-Semitism. You cannot tolerate it. You cannot normalize it. You cannot make it acceptable and all of these actions implicitly make Farrakhan's anti- Semitism acceptable and normalized. HANNITY: I can't say it any better than that, Pastor Scott. DARRELL SCOTT, FOUNDER & PASTOR, NEW SPIRIT RIVAL CHURCH: Well, the thing that immediately comes to mind when you say that about Bill Clinton and the thing that ashamed me is the fact that he was sitting in a Christian church. Farrakhan is not only notoriously anti-Semitic, he's also anti-Christian as well. DERSHOWITZ: Right. SCOTT: So, to have him sitting on the platform in a seat of honor in a Christian church, that was deplorable as well. But you know, black leaders and black pastors, they embrace Farrakhan and they're afraid to offend him simply because they think that because of his suppose it pro-black bigoted message that they need his approval, they need his endorsement in order for them to get elected or to have the power. They are afraid to make an enemy out of them but the truth be told, Sean, and Professor Dershowitz, truth be told, a number of them privately share his anti-Semitic feelings. And they buy into those anti-Semitic stereotypes that Farrakhan perpetuates. And you know-- (CROSSTALK) DERSHOWITZ: Well, they have to be exposed. They have to be exposed without regard to their race. SCOTT: Yes, he perpetuates this victimization and he identifies the Jews as the oppressor. And so, he's doing this to the masses and the leaders buy into it and they even have a somewhat unspoken agreement that will keep this in private between us, but we really share the same ideals. And it's a shame. It's a shame that this man is allowed the latitude in America that he's allowed because he is who he is. DERSHOWITZ: Well, you know, it's easy for people on the right to condemn people on the left who are bigots and it's easy for people in the left to condemn people on the right. What's hard and what needs to be done is people on the left condemning bigotry from the hard left and people on the right condemning bigotry on the hard rate. It's the special obligation of people to condemn the extremists on their side of the political spectrum. HANNITY: But you know but-- (CROSSTALK) SCOTT: Even within your own ethnic group. Blacks that need to condemn bigotry by blacks. Whites need to condemn bigotry by whites, whoever. We need to do it within our own confines as well. We can't say we just condemn bigotry if it's against us. If it's bias we have to condemn it as well. DERSHOWITZ: Look, I have condemned bigotry among some Jews, extremist Jews who have expressed anti- black or anti-Latino sentiments. It's the obligation of everybody to condemn this kind of bigotry no matter what the source. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I agree with both men. I agree on one thing. DERSHOWITZ: Whether you agree with them on other issues. HANNITY: I was raised Catholic. The corruption of the Catholic Church is beyond any comprehension. It is unacceptable. People should be going to jail for the horror that they committed, the crimes, the evil that they perpetrated and the cover-up anybody involved similarly should be in jail. You're right, professor. DERSHOWITZ: But you have to praise the Catholic Church for its attack on anti-Semitism. That was maybe a little late in coming but it has been so strong, so strong. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, historically was late, professor, let's be honest. DERSHOWITZ: But it has been so strong that today from pulpits all over the country anti-Semitism is repeatedly condemned and that's a good thing. HANNITY: Yes. And I don't think the relationship with Israel has been any closer as it is now. (CROSSTALK) SCOTT: You're absolutely right. HANNITY: And you know, you see this submerging alliance against the Iranian hegemony. We might actually have a chance of peace in the Middle East like nobody imagine a few years ago. Thank you both for being with us. DERSHOWITZ: Thank you. HANNITY: When we come back, one week from tonight the election results will be pouring in. Senator Lindsey Graham, Mike DeWine, they're next as our coverage continues. Stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Midterms just a week away. The fundamental rights that make this country great all in the ballot. Due process, presumption of innocence, our Constitution, the economy, our safety, our security. Joining us tonight champion of those right, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine. He is running for the governorship of Ohio. Mike, this is an important race for this reason. People forget these governor's races, `20 we get the senses. And then you get all the realignment, congressional seats begin to change and they rewrite what the districts are and usually the party in power has greater say. MIKE DEWINE, GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE, (R) OHIO: Well, you know, Sean, it's amazing how much money has been poured into the state from the Democrat side. They really recognize the importance of the governorship in 2020. They get it, and so we've seen millions and millions of dollars coming from California and New York outside the state of Ohio. HANNITY: Yes. And you know, senator, you've been -- you now -- this moment in the Kavanaugh hearing I would argue was a tipping point. That moment doesn't happen I'm not sure Kavanaugh got through. And I said it to you then, I'll say it to you now. You did the right thing, it was clear, it was moral in justice and indignation and you spoke for a lot of people. You now have been in a lot of states. You're travelling all through. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, (R) SOUTH CAROLINA: Yes. HANNITY: I don't know who's busier, the president and his 11 stops before election day. I think you have probably as many. GRAHAM: He's got a better plane. HANNITY: He's not going to like it if you have more than him by the way. GRAHAM: No, don't worry. But he's got a better plane. I can't promise you that. HANNITY: Sure. Let's talk about what is resonating with people on the stops. What are issues resonating. I assume immigration? Not wanting to give crumbs back? The Democrats desire to impeach. Open borders. Yes, judicial nominees, the Kavanaugh effect? GRAHAM: All the Kavanaugh and the caravan. I mean, if you're Republican and you're not excited about voting, you're legally dead. Kavanaugh was an assault on everything we hold near and dear. Why it is always our judges. This has been a nightmare for red state Trump Democrats between the Kavanaugh debacle, despicable character assassination and a caravan trying to overrun our borders. This has been a nightmare for red state Democrats unless unified Republicans, again, whether you are a Bush Republican, Trump Republican, vegetarian Republican, you were upset about what they were doing to Brett Kavanaugh. They tried to destroy this man's life to hold open the seats so they could fill it. They do not recognize President Trump won the election and he chose a qualified person and it is resonating all over this country. It has united Republicans. It has put Democrats on the defensive. HANNITY: Explain on the issue of Mexico, because I know you got the attention of the Mexican government yesterday with your comments. GRAHAM: I did. I'm about to get it again if you will give me 30 seconds. HANNITY: Go ahead. GRAHAM: I appreciate the phone call for -- I -- they do watch Fox News. Thank you, Mr. Ambassador, from Mexico, calling me. I like what you said to me. It's important that we keep this caravan away from the United States border. We can work on fixing the triangle countries, make their lives better and we can work together to secure both sides of the border but you need to stop this caravan. I appreciate what you said to me and keep working with Trump. I think you'll be a good ally. HANNITY: All right. Let me, Mike DeWine, if we look at Ohio, no Republican has ever won the presidency without winning your state and it is truly a swing state. Two times voted for Obama. Votes for Donald Trump. Even with the hostility I would call it of John Kasich, but as the economy since Donald Trump has been president better for the people of Ohio and more specifically how do you help it? DEWINE: Well, we would move forward. Certainly, move forward under President Trump. If you go back eight years when my opponent Richard Cordray was the attorney general and Ted Strickland was the governor, we had lost 400,000 jobs. We had double digit unemployment. Things were going south. Today we've regained those 400,000 jobs, plus 150,000 other jobs this past year. In September to September. We gained more jobs, new jobs for the state of Ohio then we've had for any year for 21 years. HANNITY: Well. DEWINE: So were moving in the right direction. What we don't want to do is go back to the tax-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I got to run. DWINE: Tax issue (Inaudible) all the time. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: If you've got Lindsey Graham on your side and Bill Cunningham on your side you're doing pretty well because they are both great Americans. All right. We'll be watching Ohio closely. One week from tonight. When we come back, Rush explains why you must vote in seven days. HANNITY: Today Rush made a wise observation about why it's imperative that we all vote. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: It is a seminal moment when a political party as its official position refuses to accept election results, and that's where we are. And that is why we are where we are. They refuse to accept it. For whatever reason, they hate Trump, they don't feel good about it, they disagree, whatever. It doesn't matter why, but just the fact that they refused to accept the results is a horribly dangerous thing. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Right on. One week from tonight, you have the power to once again shock the world. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is next. Load-Date: October 31, 2018 End of Document President Trump Taking Aim At Birthright Citizenship; New Caravan Making Its Way To U.S. Border; THE INGRAHAM ANGLE's First Anniversary; Leftist Freaks Out Over Trump's New Plan On Birthright; The Shady Birth Tourism Is Big Business In The U.S.; Birth Tourism Site Ends In Tragedy; Tragedy Stabbing At Birth Tourism Center In New York; Guatemalan Intel Secretary On Migrant Caravan Coming To The U.S. Border; Interview With Guatemalan Secretary Of Intelligence Mario Duarte; Caravan Of Immigrants In Mexico Continues Journey Towards U.S.; Analysts Debate President Trump's Use Of Word "Nationalism" Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 30, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7473 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Andy McCarthy, William La Jeunesse, David Bossie, Monica Crowley Guests: John Eastman, Mingli Chen, Mark Krikorian, Mario Duarte, Chris Hahn Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: It is a horribly dangerous thing. And SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Right on. One week from tonight you have the power to once again, shock the world. Let not your heart be troubled, Laura Ingraham is next. Hi. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hi, Hannity. You had a great show. Anything else you want to say? HANNITY: Thank you. No, it's good to see you. Great interview with the President last night. INGRAHAM: Happy anniversary? Come on! HANNITY: Happy anniversary -- what? INGRAHAM: One year on the show, I've done the show for one year tonight. HANNITY: Oh, happy anniversary. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: I'm going to call Jill. Jill will say, this is exactly what happens to me. That is Sean's wife. HANNITY: Excuse me? You didn't wish me happy anniversary when I started my 23rd year? I mean, you are 22 years behind. INGRAHAM: Well, what's the 23rd anniversary, like aluminum? What is 23? HANNITY: Obviously -- no, it is silver, 25, silver, 50 is gold. INGRAHAM: I am just teasing you. Am I going to see you Monday in New York, or am I going to come on your show or something? HANNITY: I think so. Yes, come over on my show on Monday. We love to have you on. We love having you on. INGRAHAM: We are going to hang out on Monday. You had a greats how tonight Hannity. HANNITY: All right. Thank you -- have a great show, great interview with the president. INGRAHAM: All right, thanks so much. I am Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington tonight, just one week out from the all- important midterm election as Sean said, President Trump taking aim at birth right citizenship. Tonight, we are going to expose the whistle and blow the whistle on another shady part of this. Birth tourism. Now you don't want to miss this unbelievable story that we will highlight tonight, it doesn't get nearly the coverage it should get. And as a second caravan now clashes with police at the Guatemala Mexico border, the Guatemalan equivalent of our CIA chief is going to join us tonight to tell us what his services have discovered about who is actually behind the caravan organizing. Plus, the race to abolish free speech. A scourge once relegated to college campuses is now essentially infiltrating every facet of political life. Tonight we will show you how one phrase has been used repeatedly to silence Trump and his supporters. And as I said, it's our one year anniversary tonight so make sure to and stay for some of the highlights and low lights -- no. Just the highlights of our biggest interviews for the past years, but first, when birthright goes wrong. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. From the second President Trump announces plans to address birthright citizenship earlier today, the left freak out. Now here's what the President told Axios. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We are the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby and that baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years with all those benefits. It's ridiculous and it has to end. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you talked about that with council? TRUMP: Yes, I have. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So we are in a process? TRUMP: It is still in the process. It will happen. We have an executive order. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: An executive order, now, predictably open borders maybe they were quick to denounce the President and condemn his even raising idea of ending birthright citizenship. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As if we needed it, there's more evidence that immigration remains the President's animating issue. This new proposal to end birthright citizenship. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is talking about birthright citizenship and I think he is done to just simply to inflame the issue. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, this is the hard-liner immigration message, the fear of immigrants changing the way of life of Americans. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It really hearkens back to some of the darkest chapters of American's history where in 1857, the Scott decision. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, move over Encyclopedia Britannica. Look, this is default behavior of all those deflected with Trump derangement syndrome. When they are faced with an inconvenient truth. They demonize the President, and just dismissed out of hand of the issue. Heaven forbid we actually present the American people with a factual unbiased presentation of the issue. First of all, President Trump had already committed to ending birthright citizenship during the campaign, so aside from his mentioning the drafting of executive order in the pathway to fulfilling his promise, it's hardly a news flash. And why is this an important issue in the first place with the President? So many of his supporters and I would dare say Democrats as well. A lot of it goes for the money. Consider the number of children born to illegals each year. Back in 2010, the center for immigration studies estimated that between 300,000 and 400,000 are born to illegal aliens in the United States annually. Now that figure is bound to be a lot higher today given the new research that the number of illegals in the U.S. is at least double what was originally thought. Or, about 22 million. Let's conservatively say that 400,000 children are born every year in the United States to illegal immigrants. While those are people that hardworking U.S. taxpayers have to educate, and for whom they provide health care, and in many cases food stamps. Obviously infrastructure, et cetera, et cetera. CIS estimates that the annual cost to the U.S. taxpayers of children born to illegal aliens is a staggering $2.4 billion. You think our vets and our homeless and our inner city schools could use that money? Maybe we could even pay down some of the debt. Well, to borrow down a little further, a 2015 CIS report found 51 percent of immigrant headed households used at least one federal program. Cash, food, housing or medical care compared to only 30 percent of native households. And we aren't just talking by the way about folks on these over stays or who cross the border illegally. Many of you would be stunned to know that there are entire industries both here and abroad that are now devoted to gaining the birthright citizenship system. It's called birth tourism and it's become big business in the United States, attracting immigrants from China, Taiwan, Mexico, Russia, and Turkey. What they do is they purchase package deals, where they come to the U.S. as a visitor for a month or several months and have their baby on American soil. For upwards of $50,000 these foreigners are guaranteed U.S. citizenship for their children. It's wild. And that furnishes them of course, with preferential college treatment, when the kids reach age 18 and they also can sponsor the parents for green cards on their 21sit birthday. That is pretty nifty. So I'm sure this is what our founders intended when they were drafting the 14th amendment, right. Now contrary to what Obama and s many in the left are saying today, President Trump by questioning birthright citizenship, you know, mantra is provoking a conversation that I think is sorely needed in the country. So, rather than just castigating the President or caricaturing his position. Why not have a substantive debate on it. How he wanted to proceed with immigration in United States seems like a worthy conversation to me to have especially during the midterm election. And up until now, Trump is the only President who has been willing to have that debate. What are the Democrats afraid of here? And that is THE ANGLE. Joining me now with reaction, Dr. John Eastman, he is a senior fellow at the Claremont Institute and constitutional law professor at Chapman University. And Andy McCarthy is a contributing at National review and a Fox News contributor. John, I want to start with you because you wrote in "The New York Times" that birthright citizenship is not actually in the constitution. So why does the left think it is? JOHN EASTMAN, SENIOR FELLOW, CLAREMONT INSTITUTE: Well, they have misunderstood one of the causes and the constitution. There's actually two requirements for automatic citizenship. You have to be born on U.S. soil, and you have to be subject to the jurisdiction. And they just read that last clause out of the constitution as if it's not there, as if it means the same thing as being physically present here, but for those that ratify and those that drafted that language, it meant subject to the complete jurisdiction, not subject to allegiance to any foreign power and that is what mandates birthright citizenship. So the children are citizen, the children are lawful permanent residence, they are automatically citizens if they are born here. But the children of temporary visitors are people who overstayed their visas and certainly the children of people who are not even lawfully present in the United States at all are not automatically citizens according to the constitution. And President Trump's executive order just wants to get the constitutional right. INGRAHAM: Andy, the reaction today was just over the top, hyperbolic, and even Paul Ryan, we are going to play a little clip from this. Paul Ryan said this, I believe it was on a radio show. Let's listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PAUL RYAN, (R), HOUSE SPEAKER: You cannot infect citizenship with an executive order. Like when Obama try changing immigration laws in an executive action and obviously as conservatives, you know, we believe in the constitution. You know, as a conservative on a believer in following the plain text of the constitution. I think in this case, the 14th amendment it's pretty clear. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Andy McCarthy, Paul Ryan, outgoing Speaker of the House, not giving it Trump any help there, but he said though, we have to have congressional action. It is that true? ANDY MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I think they should have congressional action, Laura. As a practical matter, personally, I think this is a constitutional provision of the 14th amendment where we are not only just dealing with the constitutional provision, it's also been codified by Congress. I think they made a pretty clear that they want to weigh in here and that they feel like and rightly so, that they are the supreme branch of the three in terms of defining citizenship. So, I think there's a very good argument that Trump shouldn't do this by executive order, as a practical matter I must tell you, I think the way the Supreme Court lines up, the only way they have a chance of succeeding on what I and my friend John Eastman think is a correct policy is by getting it done by statute rather than executive order. But when Ryan says that the constitution is pretty clear, I don't know what constitution he is reading, because as John just pointed out, there is a very strong interpretation of it that goes back to the people who actually defined it at the time that it was ratified that runs 180 degrees different from the way that Ryan is interpreting it. INGRAHAM: John Eastman, I want to go back to you on this. Again, I think people and Andy talked about how this has been codified by congress. I think he is talking about -- we don't want to get in the ways of the law, people -- but Section 1401, of the applicable code. Now what is Andy talking about? And again, does this mean that the President as the chief executive officer of the United States, with a concern of who comes into the country and who does not, and who gets citizenship and who doesn't get citizenship, that he does not have the right to do this. Explain the 1401 issue? EASTMAN: Well, the 1401 issue, Congress has a statute that defined citizenship, but it uses the exact same language as a constitution, so we have to figure out what the constitution means. And like I said before. There are two requirements, born here and is subject to the jurisdiction. Let me give an example. If a British citizen is over here as a tourist, he has to comply with our laws while he is here. He drives on the right side of the road and not the left side of the road, but he is not subject to our allegiance, he doesn't get drafted into our army, he subject to the partial territorial jurisdiction. Not the complete jurisdiction that was intended. And what the President is trying to do is just enforce that law as written. And I will give you one very good example and I think Andy will agree with me on this. You have to be a citizen in order to get a passport and the one thing that everybody agrees with is the subject of the jurisdiction clause at least excludes the children of diplomats who are here. And yet our passport office is unlawfully giving passports and deeming as citizens the children of diplomats who are clearly not covered by the 14th amendment. So the President's executive order could for example just tell the passport office to quit violating the law that would be well within his rights as the chief executive of the country. INGRAHAM: Chuck Grassley looked like he agreed with Paul Ryan today. Which was a little disappointing for those of us who really like Chuck Grassley. I want to just go through the list of countries, not that this matters because we have our own constitution understanding, but that do not offer birthright citizenship -- most of the developed countries other than Canada. Australia, Austria, Denmark, France, Germany, Israel, Italy, Japan, New Zealand, Norway, Slovakia, South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, Spain, the U.K., none of them offer this type of birthright citizenship. Which Andy, we will get into this in a moment. It does create perverse incentives and this birth tourism issue which we are going to get in deeply here, it is a huge problem and we have horrible situations happening in New York and California with their abuses and so forth. How do you think this ultimately comes down Andy? MCCARTHY: I think a lot of it depends on how it goes up to the Supreme Court, Laura. You are quite right. You know, look, when you hear people defend this, what they say is this is absolutely what the 14th amendment requires, they never say this is good policy because its indefensible policy, but I just think having fought the old military commissions battle back you know, 10 or 12 years ago, however long it was, there was a lot of authority that President Bush had to unilaterally order military commissions and the court told him nevertheless that he needed Congress. And I just think, you know if this goes up to the Supreme Court as an executive order, we lose, if it goes up to the Supreme Court as statute, at least there is a chance. INGRAHAM: All right. John and Andy, thank you so much. Fascinating conversation. And now onto that story HANKS: I was alluding to, a shocking one, as result of something called birth tourism, a phenomenon where foreign nationals come to this country to just give birth with the explicit purpose of securing citizenship for their infant. Just in the last month, in a story that got very little attention, a worker at one of these host homes went on a gruesome attack, stabbing two adults and three infants. One as young as only three days old. This particular site was used primarily by a Chinese citizen seeking to get that all important U.S. passport for their infants. Joining with more, is Mark Krikorian, the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies and Mingli Chen, is an immigration lawyer in New York in the area where this birth center was broken up. Mingli, I want to start with you. This story got very little attention. And you pointed out that some of these birthing centers are properly registered and some are not. Explain that. MINGLI CHEN, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: Well, from my experience of dealing with my clients and targeting other customers, I learned that some of the maternity centers are registered, and they are primarily registered as a day care. They are doing something else. They are doing the maternity center providing some type of a full service to the mothers who give birth to the infants, they are providing this and that service without telling the government. So that is against the registration. INGRAHAM: Well, in this particular case, Mark Krikorian, was just absolutely hideous. "The New York Times" and New York post did big stories on this at the time. The carnage happened around 3:40 a.m., in a three storey home and flushing, the workers provide care to babies born in the U.S. in exchange for thousands of dollars. One of the employees identified as Yufan Wang, went berserk, attacked a 63-year-old colleague, the 31 year- old man and then stabbed three baby girls. At 3-day-old, 2-week-old and 1- month-old. And women show up twice a week pregnant and have their children there, all right under the nose of New York officials. MARK KRIKORIAN, CENTER FOR IMMIGRATION STUDIES: Yes, but, I mean a lot of these operations are going to be like this, kind of sleazy -- you know, I won't say black market, but they are not properly registered. And there are others that really are higher quality, but it cost a lot more, this seems to be a discount operation. In other words, if you really have a lot of money in China and you want to get a U.S. passport for your kid, there are higher end versions of this kind of thing and it's not just Chinese. There are Russian birth tourism, people from Mexico, this is a big business and it's all legal. That is the problem. These people are not breaking our laws, we are the ones who have this set up of rules that lets people have a kid here, wait for a month or two for the passport to come in, you know in the mail and then they leave. At least the children's illegal immigrants actually grow up here as Americans, these kids -- they never grow up as Americans, they grow up in China where they grow up -- INGRAHAM: And they want the passport again to reinforce this point why? KRIKORIAN: A couple of reasons. It depends on the people. One, it's kind of an escape hatch. It's like things go bad in your country and you are in China or Turkey, you never know what is going to happen there, it is a way to get out or at least get the kid out. Look, the last helicopter off the embassy are much more likely to have your kid on it if it has a passport. Also, when the kid is an adult, he gets to sponsor you for immigration, so it is kind an almost a retirement program for some people and finally, it is a way of getting cheaper tuition if you want to go let us say, University of California in Berkeley, foreign students have to pay more than U.S. citizens. So it is an easier way of getting to college and then finally for some people it's a way of dodging the draft. If you are in Turkey, you don't want to serve in the Turkish army, and I wouldn't, this is a way to send your kid here. INGRAHAM: By the way our framers are not, this is not our framers was intended. Mingli, I want to go with you, is China cool with this? I mean, you work with a lot of immigrants from China, or people who come here as tourists and they do this birth tourism, but is China OK with this? It is not a problem? CHEN: China doesn't care. They don't care even somebody is coming out of the country and going to the United States to give birth to the baby. They just care whether that person or any person like will do something bad to the government, otherwise, giving birth to a baby have nothing to do with the Chinese policy. INGRAHAM: And when you go to China, Mingli, do you -- just anyone can go to China and get Chinese citizenship, right? That is the way it works there? CHEN: As far as I understand, the Chinese policy is not. INGRAHAM: While of course, you have a little different system there which is fine, but you probably want to control their immigration and their citizenship a little differently. Mark and Mingli, thank you so much. And for more on why Trump won and how the GOP could do it again, grab a copy of my new paperback, "Busting the barricades." When I saw the populous revolt. You will love it. It is in bookstore everywhere. And coming up, as the media busiest itself with Trump birthright citizenship banned. A new migrant caravan is actually storming into Mexico from Guatemala. The head of the Guatemalan secretary of strategic intelligence is here with some inside info about who is behind these new efforts. Stay there. INGRAHAM: A new migrant caravan is storming violently towards our border. Mexican authorities telling the Associated Press that the migrants quote attacked its agents with rocks, glass bottles and fireworks, while some allegedly carrying guns and even firebombs. As these mobile mobs barrel toward our border, we are learning more about who is actually inside the first caravan. Check out this interview Griff Jenkins conducted with one of the Honduran migrants in the original group. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you willing to break the law to get back to the United States? UNIDENTIFIED MALE (TRANSLATOR): He says he wants to apply for pardon for the felony he committed. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you ask him exactly what happened? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (TRANSLATOR): A third-degree felony, attempted murder. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: My Spanish is not great, but I understood that. Now Fox news reporter William La Jeunesse stayed up for us and joins us on the ground in all walks, Mexico, with a live report. William, thank you for staying up, you work such a long day. Tell us what we need to know. WILLIAM LA JEUNESSE, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: That is OK, Laura. Well, I will tell you that the migrants we have spoken to know they are criminals among them. That is why they kind of hang out in groups of five or ten or 15 to watch each other. So you will sleep while I watch your stuff. Now we have interviewed so far two gang members, one from L.A. and one from Houston. A human trafficker and a drug trafficker from North Carolina who said he can't go back because he will be quote, "killed." So it is not in common to border patrol tells in these large groups they are seeing down the southwest border right now, 100, 200, sometimes 300 people, for there to be criminal aliens among them that is not uncommon. Now we've also been told by law enforcement sources that Mexico has been cooperative in providing Intel to the U.S. that indeed there are people here that have criminal records and in fact that is why President Trump, when he says there are bad guys here, he is not wrong. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I didn't want to run from the border patrol. I just want to be legal and safe. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I heard he say, most of us running the caravan, we are not a thug. Not all of us, but you know, there are some people going here that it's true, they are a bad person. (END VIDEO CLIP) LA JEUNESSE: So that first guy you heard from, he was human trafficker who got arrested in Texas with three illegal aliens in the truck. So here are the stats from border patrol. 2016, almost 13,000 criminal aliens arrested and it's gone down since then but that August figures where that 2018 figure is only through August. The offenses ranged from murder to sexual assault, the largest criminal reentry of a DUI, domestic violence and assault, burglary and theft. So at this point in time, the U.S. is doing, you know, what it can, it knows there will be people there which of course, is why one of the reasons President Trump is doing what he did. I just want to say that, you know, a lot of people here, they are uninformed about what to expect from the United States. But for the first time yesterday we saw a U.S. immigration lawyer down here who works with migrant groups telling them how to pass a credible interview. How to say, I was threatened, who were you threatened by and what's the relationship? Why you couldn't go through the police, those kind of things. So those are the things that they did with the caravan in March and April in terms of telling these people how to make it into the country, we will have to see with the changes the President is making whether that is possible or not. Back to you. INGRAHAM: William, just one question. How are they moving from point a to point b? We see all this video of various flatbed trucks, are these just random people, like come on board and I will give you a ride, I mean how is that working? LA JEUNESSE: Yes, it is. It started out walking, right on last Sunday, you know 10 days ago, whatever and then they started hitchhiking and then different towns have heard about them, of course getting publicity down here, so you are right. Buses, trucks, cabs, vans like this one, they will each pay like a bucks 50 to go from one town to the next. Sometimes 40, 50 miles. Tomorrow they are going to stay here and they are trying to get transportation, 150 buses to take them to Mexico City, where they will go talk to the government about their demands. Now back to you. INGRAHAM: That is a lot of money, to pay for 150 buses. Thank you, William so much for being there tonight. And so why do the caravans keep coming? Joining me us now from Guatemala City is a Guatemalan secretary of strategic intelligence, Mario Duarte. Mario, we heard from some officials in your country that there are certain organizations funding these caravans. What can you tell us about them? MARIO DUARTE, GUATEMALAN SECRETARY OF STRATEGIC INTELLIGENCE: OK, so before we start, Laura, I wanted to wish you happy anniversary on your great show on behalf of the President Morales. We are great fans out here. INGRAHAM: Thank you. Thank you so much. DUARTE: Now back to your question, as you might have heard from the President from Honduras, he spoke with Vice President Pence. They have detected some NGO's, some groups, leftist groups funding this caravan. With funds from leftist countries in Latin America. We are working together with them to find out what is going on, who are their organizations that might be helping them and obviously we are sharing all these information with American intelligence in America security agencies. INGRAHAM: Mr. Secretary, some folks in the United States wonder, why can't Guatemalans fix what ails Guatemala? I mean, I've been to Guatemala many times, I have a beautiful daughter who was born in Guatemala, and it is one of the most beautiful countries. Natural resources, just natural beauty and incredible people, but obviously, a long history of difficulty and corruption and concern. So, how do you deal with that? I mean that is a big problem. I mean, a lot of people are from Honduras, but before that, a lot of Guatemalans were mixed in as well. DUARTE: Well, we had detected, some Guatemala -- but as you say most of them are from Honduras. Now, yes Guatemala is a great country. And we have great resources unfortunately through our history, we had had a several difficulties with different ideologies. We had a 36-year internal conflict, and we had to work through that with our citizens and to get of that situation. We've been working on that very hard. President Jimmy Morales administration has been putting a lot of emphasis on building up our institutions, building up our capabilities, and obviously working with partners like the United States and other countries. INGRAHAM: And Mr. Secretary, your country was not able to hold back that initial caravan, nor was it able to hold back the second caravan that's making its way through Mexico now, nor could Mexico. Why couldn't you hold them back? And what was your sense about the people in this caravan? Are they all just good people who want a job? Are there bad people mixed in, is President Trump right about that? DUARTE: Well, we are looking at different situations here, Laura. Central American countries, we have an agreement since 2006 or 2008 that our citizens can freely move between the countries as long as they carry their national I.D. and go through a regular immigration process or border checkpoint. These caravans as you might have seen from different videos, it was a very, very big group, over 3,000 people. And when the Guatemalan security forces, let me say that really quickly, we put over 2,000 police officers and close to 1,000 military -- INGRAHAM: Yes, but you couldn't hold them back. We're almost out of time. You couldn't hold them back, though Mr. Secretary. You could stop it. DUARTE: Yes, there was an issue here. We tried very hard, as you could have seen in the videos. The issue is that these people put babies, women, and the elderly at the front almost like human shields. So when they started pressing them against our security personnel, we had to do our best to protect their lives, to protect their human rights, and their dignity as well. With that in there we always put life first, and we had to protect these people, and obviously that is when the rest of the caravan over pass our security forces. INGRAHAM: Mr. Secretary, we really appreciate it. We hope you continue to work with the United States government. These caravans have got to stop. It's untenable. It's unsustainable, the people in this country want orderly immigration. I'm sure it's no great shakes for you trying to do with it there as well. So thank you very much for joining us ton,, and we'll check back with you soon. The rabbi of the Tree of Life Synagogue, believe it or not, on another issue, is receiving hate mail. For what? For welcoming the president's visit to Pittsburgh. Ahead, we examine how those who claim to be opposed to hate may actually be stoking it. Stay there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RABBI JEFFREY MYERS, RABBI FOR TREE OF LIFE SYNAGOGUE: When I first said that the president was welcome, I received a lot of emails, too numerous to count. The thing that saddens me is those emails also contain hate. And it just continues in this vicious cycle, hate promulgating more hate promulgating more hate. And that's just not the solution. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was Rabbi Myers of Pittsburgh's Tree of Life Synagogue. Like the rabbi's correspondence, the media is self-righteously claiming to be fighting against hate and anti-Semitism and so forth. But the only thing they seem fixated on is fighting the president. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's really unusual for a sitting president to head to the scene of a tragedy like this and not be in the company of other elected officials. That just goes to show how controversial this last week has been, really, when it comes to this conversation about the president's rhetoric. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I spoke to somebody in Trump world this morning saying why is he going. And the response was, he does care, he's just not any good at it. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He does not lean into unity and hope and that message. It doesn't come naturally to him. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me to react to all of this is Dave Bossie, FOX News contributor, coauthor of "Trump's Enemies," and Chris Hahn, former aide to Senator Chuck Schumer. David, let's start with you. Why is a visit to pay respects to the victims of this horrific anti-Semitic slaughter over the weekend controversial? DAVID BOSSIE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: It's simply not controversial. It's only the ones with Trump derangement syndrome that want to make it so. They hate this president more than they love the country. I've been saying it a long time, and it's unfortunately. And it's in this time, and I hope -- I think that Chris will agree with me. We all have a responsibility to try to ratchet down the partisanship, not ratchet it up. The president, as all presidents do, went to the scene of a tragedy to try and pay his respects with the first lady, with his with his son-in-law who is Jewish, with his daughter who is Jewish, to pay respects to those fallen, those first responders that were incredibly brave going after the shooter, and their families. That's what presidents do. And that's what should happen, and we should all take a moment just to take a deep breath, not hyperbolic partisanship. INGRAHAM: CNN was doing this whole deal, Chris Hahn, on the so called 2,000 protesters, some of them organized. "The Daily Mail" has a big long piece on it tonight by the Democrats for a Socialist America and other leftwing groups, and so forth. And that's fine, they can protest the president. But this is what Ana Navarro said earlier today. I'll have you react. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANA NAVARRO, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: The reason he's being faulted is because everything he has said beforehand and everything he has said sense makes this act seem like he is checking off a box and just rings hollow. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Chris, is the president checking off a box? CHRIS HAHN, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: I don't know what's in the president's heart, Laura. I think every president should visit scenes like this. I know the city was concerned about security and resources to protect the funerals and other people because they were worried about a copycat. So whether or not he should have been there or not will be debated. I think that will pass very shortly. What needs to be done by the president, and I agree with Mr. Bossie, is we need to racket down the rhetoric in this country. The president needs to choose his words more carefully. He cannot be saying that he is a nationalist. I am the grandson of people who were chased out of Europe by nationalists and the great grandson of people who were murdered in concentration camps by nationalists. So there are better words to use for love of your country, like patriot, or just love of my country. But using that word has really set a tone that many in this country have their back up and are angered by the president. I think the president should choose his words more carefully and try to unite the nation, especially -- the election is going to be over a week from tonight, Laura, and I hope that the day after the election the president of the United States looks into the camera and says it's time for this nation now to have healing. INGRAHAM: Chris, is that what Nancy Pelosi is planning to do? I take what you say and I know you feel it in your heart, and I respect that. HAHN: I do. INGRAHAM: But the idea that in a midterm election, the president should just kind of sit there and say, well, this is my view on immigration, this is the chart we have here, and this is the GDP. Come on. The left will hit him with everything they have had from the very beginning. The idea that he can't argue this stuff at this point because we've had horrific tragedies is very convenient for the left. HAHN: Oh, no, Laura, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm -- INGRAHAM: That's what the left is saying. They want to silence this president. HAHN: That's not what I'm saying at all. INGRAHAM: They want to silence this president. HAHN: I think the president could run on his accomplishments and make a comparison to his opponents, but he's got to catch the hateful rhetoric. Calling himself a nationalist, saying -- INGRAHAM: Read Yoram Hazony's book on nationalism. He is a renowned Jewish scholar. His view on nationalism is very different from yours as are many others who are not fans of Trump. HAHN: My great grandfather was killed by a nationalist, murdered by a nationalist in a concentration camp. INGRAHAM: Those are also socialists. Go ahead. BOSSIE: Chris, I just want to say that the president's heart is filled with love for all the American people, and I just have got to say this. His grandchildren are Jewish. This is something that's very close to home to him. So I know the left wants to hate on him and I know that they want to argue with everything, but can they not just give him one moment to pay respects to the 11 that died in Pittsburgh? That's what America historically has always done. And I think we need to check ourselves and do that some more. HAHN: Again, I'm not faulting him for going there. But like I said, there are other words. That word has been taken. And there are people in this country who know what nationalist mean. But -- BOSSIE: No, but the president. HAHN: There are people in this country who when they hear nationalist, they think white nationalist. INGRAHAM: Shouting doesn't make it any better. Shouting doesn't make it any better. I get it, but we have freaks in all walks of life and all over this country who listen to this snippet on CNN or this snippet here, and we could take this and extrapolate it out until the cows come home. BOSSIE: The president is a patriot. INGRAHAM: He wants the best for the country. I think the Democrats want the best for the country. But you can't demonize every word that comes out of someone's mouth because he's beating people on some of these issues. That's what I have a problem with. I don't want to circumscribe more speech in the country. HAHN: He should stop using that word, Laura. He should stop using that word. There are others. INGRAHAM: If he does that, I'm sure, Chris, you're going to be all in Trump's camp. Thank you, gentlemen, I really appreciate it. It's an important day today. The speech police, though, are back again, as I referenced, and the stronger they are this time. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANA NAVARRO, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Listen. I think nationalism is a dog whistle for white nationalism. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's just want Chris Hahn said. Monica Crowley is here next next to explain how this dangerous trend of speech codes from college campuses foisted on society at large is something we all need to think a little bit about. Don't go away. INGRAHAM: Here is the left's really cool game. You disagree with a particular policy or phrase from the president, then you just describe a really nasty qualifier to describe it. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ARI BERMAN, "MOTHER JONES" SENIOR REPORTER: Voter fraud is the new dog whistle. It's the new welfare queens in Cadillacs. ANA NAVARRO, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I think nationalism is a dog whistle for white nationalism. TOM PEREZ, DNC CHAIR: When he's in the biggest trouble, the biggest dog whistle he blows is the immigration dog whistle. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This other guy is a stone cold, in my opinion, he's a thief. Look at the job he's done as the mayor of Tallahassee. He's a total disaster. JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Look, that is a racial dog whistle pure and simple. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: How do you call cats? It's always the dog whistle. We have to have new phrases here to really trash the president. Joining me now from New York City is "Washington Times" senior opinion columnist Monica Crowley. Monica, what's the end goal for the left ear? MONICA CROWLEY, "WASHINGTON TIMES" SENIOR OPINION COLUMNIST: Laura, this was George Orwell's dire warning coming to pass, and that's not an overstatement. The founders made the amendment protecting free speech the first one for a reason. You cannot have a truly free society if free speech is infringed or circumscribed either by the government, which is what the First Amendment was designed to guard against, or by these roving mobs of leftists that control the media and the narrative. They use fear, intimidation, extortion, blacklisting, boycotts, and so many other manipulative ways as hammers against anybody whose speech they disapprove of. It is a form of totalitarianism. We are well down this road. And if we don't watch out we're going to end up like Europe where free speech is essentially out the window. INGRAHAM: And Monica, it always ends up boiling over. They tried to do this with even the issue of abortion. The Supreme Court comes in and finds a right in the Constitution that's not there, Roe versus Wade. And 45 years later we are still debating Roe versus Wade, you still have hundreds of thousands of people, they tried to say this is just a choice. Everyone is like your euphemistic language doesn't work with me. And the debate continues. So you can't take issues off the table. The Supreme Court really couldn't do with Roe. And I think the college campus censorious folks out there who are trying to foist this on society at large, I don't think it works. I think they just ends up breathing more resentment. CROWLEY: They are trying to turn the entire country into the college campus. And what they are essentially doing by using all these instruments of intimidation and extortion and boycotts and so on, is enforce speech codes. And they really have enormous success so far, unfortunately, in marginalizing if not outright silencing people. I was at the store the other day and the cashier recognized me, and she said, Monica, you know what, I keep my mouth closed. I'd rather not say anything than get into trouble with my boss or lose my job. That is a victory against the First Amendment, and that's very dangerous for the future of the country. INGRAHAM: And we see it in the military, we see it in big corporations, and people are afraid to speak out, they're afraid to speak their mind. That's a terrible thing in this country. CROWLEY: Dangerous. INGRAHAM: Do it respectfully, but speak your mind. Monica, thank you so much. And folks, we are celebrating an anniversary tonight, our own. THE INGRAHAM ANGLE turned one today. And isn't the program still adorable? Ahead we're going to celebrate the big one on ones from the past year. INGRAHAM: The first of our best of year one series begins tonight with some of the most consequential interviews to date. Enjoy. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Are you having fun in this job? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I love it. There's been a lot of false reporting that I'm angry about things. INGRAHAM: I've never seen you angry. I've known you for 14 years. TRUMP: I think the press is fake, a lot of the media is fake. INGRAHAM: You're like a distinguished elder statement, and you are doing videos we are putting up the finger to the president and saying f-this, f- that. If Trump is rude in all these things, why are you -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because he offended us. INGRAHAM: But why are you doing the same thing back? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is offending the rest of the world. INGRAHAM: Criticizing this administrations immigration policy when they are assisting despotic, totalitarian, basically obviously communist regime overseas, but Trump is the threat? MIKE POMPEO, SECRETARY OF STATE: I think we have American foreign policy on the right track on each of the dimensions that you are describing. And when we get it right, when we ultimately see the end result of President Trump's efforts, I think you will see many of these things in a place that America has not seen before. INGRAHAM: I've had the great privilege of knowing Kavanaugh for 25 years. If this can happen to him, I tremble for this country and this process, and for any man or woman who find themselves up for a big job who didn't spend his or her teenage years in a convent or a monastery. Do you intend to use this issue on the campaign trail for the last four weeks, and what are you going to say about it? MITCH MCCONNELL, (R) SENATE MAJORITY LEADER: Absolutely. I'm going to remind everybody of the importance of the Senate, two Supreme Court appointments, 26 circuit judges, a record for the first two years. These are lifetime appointments. INGRAHAM: Is it collegial on the inside for people who don't know about it? CLARENCE THOMAS, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE: It is a good place to work. You can disagree with this opinion or that, but I'm not a person to say it is a sour place or it's a dour place or that it is funereal in it's atmosphere. It is a wonderful place to work. INGRAHAM: What do you pray for? JOHN KELLY, WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF: I pray for world peace. I pray for our society that seems to be so broken right now and against itself. I pray for my family. I pray for my son and all the fallen. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wasn't in the game, he didn't do drugs. INGRAHAM: Give me a hug. The word "nationalism" has taken on, for the left, this connotation of fueling anti-Semitism, hate, even violence. Do you think that is fair, and do you want to further clarify what nationalism means to you? TRUMP: No. To me I don't want to clarify. It means I love the country. It means I'm fighting for the country. SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Hang on. Just wait for me. I'll be right there. Hang on one second. I'm literally walking into the next studio. This is how close I am to you. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Make sure the lighting is really shadowy. He's a shadowy figure. (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Oh, my goodness, one year. I can't believe it. Coming up next, a surprise and a celebration you don't want to miss, next. INGRAHAM: All right, everybody, one year anniversary of THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. Tommy, Alisa (ph) just had a baby. Raymond, our entire great staff, Renata, (ph) Melissa, Debbie, who is not here. Jessica, Alexis, all of our great camera people. What is this, like the Academy Awards? Scott, Sean (ph), Dario, Mike M.P. (ph), everybody. Raymond. Load-Date: October 31, 2018 End of Document Pittsburgh Suspect Charged with Hate Crimes Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 29, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7493 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Kristin Fisher, Matt Schlapp, Jason Chaffetz Guests: Michael Waltz, Sean Spicer, Michael Waltz, Rick Scott, Ron DeSantis Body The Media's Shameful Blame Game; The Left's Double Standard; The Democrats and the Mainstream Media Are Blaming President Trump for just Everything Bad that's Happening in the Country which Includes the Recent Horrific Shooting Incident that Happened in Pittsburg Where 11 People Were Killed by Anti-Semitic Gunman; Eight Days before the Midterm Election and the Race is Too Close between the Democrats and Republicans; Some Analysts Say Republicans Must Win at Least Three Seats in the Senate in Order to Get the Majority Numbers for the Party because if Not, Senator Elizabeth Warren and Nancy Pelosi Will Sit in Their Respective Aimed Positions and They'll Do Their Best to Impeach President Trump SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: It was a packed show. Good show, Tucker. We've got a packed show as well. And welcome to HANNITY. Terror strikes Pennsylvania. Over the weekend, a vile anti-Semitic racist murdering 11 people, injuring six more during what is literally a baby- naming ceremony at a Pittsburgh synagogue. Hate crimes charges have been filed against the monster responsible, who should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. And predictably and sadly, without skipping a beat, the mainstream media and their friends on the left are once again twisting the strategy and literally rushing to politicize this tragedy. Now, when we thought it couldn't get any worse -- well, they are now blaming president Trump for the senseless actions of a madman who actually hates President Trump. Now, we're going to show you the most despicable coverage of the weekend's attacks, including a new low for CNN and humpty dumpty. And we are also going to call out to a glaring double standard of the media surrounding the Democratic Party, their love fest with radical racist anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan and others. And with just eight days to go into the midterms, we have a brand-new undercover Project Veritas video. We will debut right here on the show, showing just how radical -- and we always knew she was radical -- Arizona Senate candidate Kyrsten Sinema really is. And we'll give you updates on so many of the races across the country, so many important elections. They are neck and neck as we now head towards the finish line. It's your choice this election. Not the media's, not the pollsters. All right. Sit tight. A lot of news. Time for our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. The face of evil, sadly, once again, rearing its ugly head. Over the weekend, a despicable anti- Semite named Robert Bowers open fire inside a Pittsburgh synagogue, killing 11, wounding six other innocent people. Among the victims were two siblings, a primary physician, a husband, a wife, who were killed in the very same synagogue where they were married more than 60 years. This is the deadliest attack against Jewish community on American soil in our history. President Trump immediately condemned this heinous act of evil over the weekend. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This evil anti-Semitic attack is an assault on all of us. It's an assault on humanity. The scourge of anti-Semitism cannot be ignored, cannot be tolerated, and it cannot be allowed to continue. We can't allow it to continue. It must be confronted and condemned everywhere it rears its very ugly head. Through the centuries, the Jews have endured terrible prosecution, and you know that. We've all read it, we've studied it. They've gone through a lot. And those seeking their destruction, we will seek their destruction. (CHEERS) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Their destruction. The president's right. Evil, anti-Semitic, racists have no place in this country and perhaps no president in modern history has demonstrated more support for Israel, the Jewish people, than President Trump. It starts with a personal connection. His daughter Ivanka, his son-in-law Jared, both are Jewish, his grandchildren also Jewish. As president, he deported a known Nazi death camp guard, even after President Obama failed to do so. And he is the most pro-Israel president since, well, the U.N. partition plan, 1947-'48. Even moving finally the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to its rightful capital, Jerusalem, a promise made by many past presidents, never fulfilled. Israeli Prime Minister, well, Bibi Netanyahu just thanked President Trump for his leadership and condolence letter to the Pittsburgh community and the Jewish community in America. Also, Israeli Ambassador Ron Dermer, he had this to say. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RON DERMER, ISRAELI AMBASSADOR TO THE U.S.: I have to tell you, Victor, I've been following anti-Semitism all of my adult life. I have never heard a stronger statement than the statement the president of the United States made yesterday. He said at his rally in Illinois that if you are going to try to destroy the Jewish people, we're going to destroy you. I have never heard a non-Israeli figure anywhere, not a European leader, not an American president, ever say such a strong statement, condemning anti-Semitism. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And it was the right thing to do for the president. Now, despite what you just saw from Ron Dermer and what you heard from the prime minister, of course, the mainstream media, Democratic Party, they are now speaking with one voice, literally condemning President Trump for this weekend's horrific attack. In Washington, and "The Washington Post," Dana Milbank writing, quote, Trump's America is not a safe place for Jews. Also in "The Post", an editor writing that Trump has, quote, stoked the fears of those like Bowers, and according to a columnist in "New York Times", quote, Trump has flirted with the deepest racists and Nazis and it has not gone unnoticed, least of all by then. This is beyond despicable, beyond low, beyond disgusting, obviously in the lead up to an election. Not only is President Trump historically supportive of the Jewish community and Israel, but the monster responsible for Saturday's act, they tend to omit this, of terror, actually hated Donald Trump. Why? In large part for being so close to our closest friends and allies in Israel. Robert Bowers postings online about his contempt for the president and the fact that he has this close alliance with Israel. Still, the mainstream media's coverage was even worse on air as they tried to spike some type of political football over a story that is so serious, so horrific, fake news CNN, a "GQ" correspondent, on their network, actually said President Trump was worse than ISIS. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think, you know, this president, one of the things that he really launched his presidential run on is talking about Islamic radicalization and to this president has radicalized so many more people than ISIS ever did. I think the president has far more supporters who espouse an equally hateful ideology. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: CNN fake news president Jeff Zucker is lecturing the president on rhetoric? Civility? Now, she's since claimed her remarks were, quote, exaggerated. This is the kind of hateful, observant rhetoric. It's nonstop. All weekend on CNN, fake news, conspiracy TV MSNBC. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tweeting about baseball or talking about his bad hair day, that was done intentionally, to send a message to white nationalists. This doesn't bug me that much. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These aren't dog whistles at this point, they are bullhorns. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Anti-Semitic comments, anti-Semitic tropes seem to follow him everywhere. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has an obligation to try to rid as much of this tribalism. And I think what he has done over the course of the last few years is help foment this. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president has not been dabbling in the elimination of this rhetoric. At some point, he doesn't dog whistle, he uses megaphones to tell these tribes that they belong to him. And this is leading to violence. Directly. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How do you marry the situation with the president last week saying he's a nationalist? All he has to do with a white nationalist. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He does have to take some responsibility for the type of racist, vile climate that we find ourselves in. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president is obviously a racist. He's obviously a demagogue. He obviously condones anti-Semitism, stokes up nationalist hatred. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, remember, this comes after days of the media's quest to pin the mail bomb scare on President Trump, again, politicizing tragedy, something that all Americans should be united on. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Evil lurks in the hearts of men and it does. And what Trump has tapped into his evil. This is now become a struggle about good versus evil, and the president of the United States is evil. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He created the atmosphere where a sick person, a criminal, somebody like this terrorist, would actualize Trump's clear intent. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That sounds like he is not condemning the bomber. It sounds to me like he is partnering with him. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The president's inflammatory and violent rhetoric inspires these murderers and bad guys. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Trump is evil, partnering with the attempted bombing. And that brings us, by the way, to fake news is CNN humpty dumpty himself, that basically is CNN's poster boy, and pretty much the stenographer for Jeff Zucker, Brian Stelter. Over the weekend, he and a guest for "The Washington Post" tossing around an idea that this show, "Hannity," responsible for violent actions of a deranged individual. Now, we are crossing into legal territory. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRIAN STELTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Margaret, you wrote about this this week with regards to the bomb attack, the suspicious packages. You said, look at all the targets. It reads like a list of Sean Hannity's pre-broadcast crib notes. This is the way you put it in your "Washington Post" columns. Again, are you blaming the Hannitys of the world? MARGARET SULLIVAN, WASHINGTON POST: Well, I think they have a share of sort of this, you know, revving up of hatred. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: What you are hearing from Jeff Zucker, humpty dumpty, fake news CNN, other members of the media, this is crossing lines into slander, this is libelous, and, by the way, with obvious malice. They refuse to tell the truth about what my loud positions have been against all violence, purposely lying about my positions. Over and over again, go back to the Kavanaugh hearings, it's been recalling for security of every American regardless of their political opinions, constantly denouncing violent actions. You have heard me say this a million times. America's issues must be addressed at the ballot box, saying over and over again, and I have posted the tapes on Hannity.com, when Barack Obama was president, we must protect America's presidents. And, by the way, I even said I would physically defend CNN reporters or anyone else if I saw any physical act of aggression against them, and I meant it. You know, if you call out lies, call fake news for what it is, if you point out a political agenda under the guise of so-called news, that is not a call for violence. It is a simple, fundamental truth. The media doesn't want to hear it. There is a reason the American people are chanting "CNN sucks!" They are earning that chant, literally minute-by-minute, second by second, 24/7, hatred of all things Trump! Of course, the media's purposely lying and it's downright reckless. It's irresponsible. You know what? If something happened to me, think about that, under other Fox News employee, by that twisted standard and paradigm, they would be held responsible. And with all due respect to a lot of people, I have likely had more threats against me in my career than any one of them, real threats to me, to my family, to people that work for me. And today, during an interview with Laura Ingraham, which will air right after this show, President Trump responded to the media's blame game and here's what he said. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST, "THE INGRAHAM ANGLE": You put bomb in quotes, they went crazy over that too over the weekend, because you use the word bomb in quotes. Would you like to kind of -- TRUMP: No, look. He was insane a long time before -- you look at his medical records, he was insane for a long time. Bernie Sanders had a fan who shot a very good friend of ours, Steve Scalise, and other people. He was a total maniac. No one puts his name in the headline, Bernie Sanders, and the headline. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, not only is the media's blame game a disgusting example of gutter politics, at its worst. It's also an example of a shameful double standard. While the media, their friends and the left, predictably vilify everyone on the right, and they say nothing about top Democrats. We were like a lone voice here when Democrats and their connections to some of the most despicable, racist, anti-Semites in America today, let's go for one example. Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, a virulent, racist anti-Semite. Here's what Farrakhan thinks about the Jewish people. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LOUIS FARRAKHAN, NATION OF ISLAM LEADER: Here the Jews don't like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. The satanic Jews, they control everything and mostly everybody. There were many Israelis and Zionist Jews in key roles of the 9/11 attack. See, the Jews have control over those agencies of government. The powerful Jews are my enemies. Farrakhan, by God's grace, has pulled a cover off of that satanic Jew. Call me an anti-Semite. Stop it. I'm anti-termite. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, that disgusting hatemonger, racist, anti-Semite, has been revered by many top Democrats. Here he is smiling, posing for a picture with former President Barack Obama. By the way, prior to Obama's run for president, this photo was purposely hidden from we the people, for eight years when Obama was president. And just a few weeks ago, Farrakhan actually appeared on stage, this is a few weeks ago. Look who is there? Bill Clinton, beloved by the Democratic Party, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson. Then there is the DNC deputy chairman, Minnesota candidate for attorney general, Keith Ellison. He wants reportedly work for Farrakhan and allegedly met with the hate preacher several times since. Now, sadly, the Democrats' radical ties don't stop at Farrakhan. The far left activist Linda Sarsour, she actually issued public support for the Muslim Brotherhood, Sharia law, praised also Farrakhan's Nation of Islam. And she blamed the Jewish, quote, media for her negative image. And despite this, she was honored by the Obama White House as a champion of change in 2011. And more recently, she introduced Democratic Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York at a rally. By the way, you won't hear about any of this from the mainstream media. Why? Well, it's eight days before an election. The media desperately wants the Democratic Party to win the midterms. They want to Trump to lose. The gloves for them are off. There is nothing they will not say or do to help the Democrats win. They have a political agenda. They always have, since day one, they have hated Trump. The day he came down the escalator. They will stop at nothing to vilify those they disagree with while shielding all of those they support. This is the same reason you want to hear about the constant stream of violent acts that we have covered on this program carried out by left-wing mobs against conservatives. By the way, CNN says you can't call them mobs. And recently, gunshots were actually fired into a Florida GOP campaign office. Thank God no one was hurt. And meanwhile also in Florida, a man there has just been arrested for threatening to kill a Republican congressman. At a rally for Republican Senate candidate, Marsha Blackburn, with Lindsey Graham this weekend, multiple members of the let's angry mob dragged out by security after trying to derail her event. And in the lead-up to the midterms, so many serious acts of violence and incivility have been documented, two local Republicans punched in Minnesota, one a woman, another cold-cocked from behind, had a concussion. GOP campaign manager in Nevada was also assaulted, threatening packages purportedly containing ricin were sent to, let's see, President Trump, Secretary of Defense Mattis, FBI Director Wray, CIA Director Haspel. We know what happened with the president's son, Don Jr. He was targeted with a suspicious package sent to his home, forcing his ex-wife to become hospitalized. A truck with a Trump bumper sticker, well, that was set on fire. So many prominent Republicans have been run out of restaurants, airports, and more. And I've almost been saying daily and nightly, all of this has got to stop. While every person definitely is responsible for his or her own actions, we have been calling for calm, peace, security. Americans can settle their differences at the ballot box in eight days. Violence is not an acceptable answer to any political disagreement. By the way, Hillary says we can't be civil. Eric Holder says kick `em. And we've had far worse. What, Maxine Waters saying create a crowd, followed them into restaurants, department stores, grocery stores? Create a crowd, tell them they are not wanted anywhere anymore. Eight days from now, you, we the people have a chance to settle our differences in a peaceful, Democratic way. And tonight, we have so many updates from so many important races around the country, including even more shocking developments out of Arizona tonight. Remember, we first showed you Democratic Senate hopeful Kyrsten Sinema calling Arizona the meth lab of democracy, calling Arizonans, who she was to vote for her, crazy. That the state was famous but only in a Lindsay Lohan kind of way. She once said it was okay for Americans to go fight with the Taliban after 9/11? Arizona, think about that tonight. And Sinema even once promoted an event at Arizona State University featuring a radical lawyer who represented the blind sheik. And meanwhile, Martha McSally, her Republican opponent, 28 years of service, six tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan, while Sinema was leading as, quote, McSally said, anti- war protesters with a pink tutu on. Now, it gets even worse. We have tonight exclusively video from projectveritas.com. Sinema campaign staffers caught on tape, openly admitting just how far left she really is, and they are now hiding it from the voters in Arizona. Just take a look at the footage. You decide. (BEGIN VIDEOAPE) MICHELLE DAVIDSON, SINEMA'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER: I mean, I think you have to look at this why Kyrsten approach is so, I think, important. We can't be talking about this with Republicans now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. DAVIDSON: We can't, right? LAUREN FROMM, SINEMA'S FIELD ORGANIZER: There's a lot of very conservative people in Arizona and so she can't alienate the conservative or moderate conservative voters by being super pro- she is pro-choice. She is very liberal, she's progressive. But she doesn't, in this election, want to draw too much attention to being progressive because she's trying to be more -- that's why I think she took so much Democratic help, too. Otherwise she wouldn't have won also. (INAUDIBLE) KYRSTEN SINEMA (D-AZ), U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE: I believe that we should offer citizenship to every person in this country who isn't bad. You know, if you haven't committed a bad crime, you know, then you should get a path to citizenship. That's what I believe. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Somehow polls show Sinema still neck and neck with McSally. The people of Arizona need to ask themselves, who do you want representing you? A war hero who supports the president, put her life on the line for her country, and for all of you in Arizona? Or somebody think that's okay to join the Taliban and thinks you're crazy? A radical left-wing activist who has far left views and clearly act hatred for the people of her own state? This is the most radical crop of Democrats to ever seek elected office. There are no more moderates. Remember Claire McCaskill, Missouri, now pretending, she was caught on tape admitting support for a widespread gun restriction by Project Veritas, taking a very different public stance. Thankfully, Republican Josh Hawley is now surging. Tennessee Republican Marsha Blackburn taking up momentum over Phil Bredesen after people for him said that he was just lying to the people of Tennessee about his support for Kavanaugh and his campaign referred to people in Tennessee as ignorant, the people they want voting for him. North Dakota, Heidi Heitkamp also caught by Project Veritas on tape. Her campaign admitting on video that while she campaigned as a moderate, she, like every other Democrat, he's really just another far left Schumer senator. And other Republicans were also gaining momentum around the country. Look at West Virginia, Patrick Morrisey, now, aw two-point lead against incumbent Joe Manchin. Remember, Joe was against the tax cut, supports Obamacare. John James in Michigan now a chance. It's outside, but he was down 20. He's only down six against Debbie Stabenow. And if you look at Republican Rick Scott, he is tied neck and neck, 46 each, with Bill Nelson down in Florida. Governor Scott has been great for the state of Florida. He will join us tonight along with Ron DeSantis, who is running for governor. Meanwhile, Republican Mike Braun in Indiana, he is now beginning to build a lead over incumbent Democrat Joe Donnelly. If you are in Indiana, remember, a vote for the libertarian is pretty much a vote for Donnelly. And Democrat Jon Tester, he's feeling heat in Montana, still holds a slight lead. And even Democrat Bob Menendez is in the fight for his life, believe it or not, in New Jersey. Granted, it's an outside shot, but he's within the margin of error. "The New York Post" now releasing a blistering editorial, telling voters to oust this corrupt senator. And over in the House, according to "Real Clear Politics", Republicans now are projected to keep at least 200 seats, Democrats, 205. That means Republicans are down. That means control of the House and whether Nancy Pelosi becomes a speaker comes down to 30 toss-up states and most toss ups are being held by Republicans. I listed them all at hannity.com. So, we are eight days away from the midterms. That balance of power rests in your hands. Democratic Party, their agenda is, what, impeach the president, they want their crumbs back, rescind the tax cuts, they want Obamacare, how did that work out for you? They want to block Supreme Court nominees, they want open borders, they want to eliminate ICE, sanctuary cities, and, by the way, launch every investigation into Trump they can ever think of. Tonight, there are three potential outcomes. Republicans can maintain control of both the House and pick up seats in the Senate. That's option one. Option two, Republicans, it will be a split decision. Nancy Pelosi becomes speaker, but Republicans pick up the seats in the Senate. Finally, the final outcome, the Democrats take both the House and Senate. Pelosi and Schumer leading the way. God, help us if it is the latter. You have the power to shock the world. When we come back, Sean Spicer, Matt Schlapp, Lieutenant Colonel Michael Waltz reacting to my opening monologue and much more. Stay with us, a lot of breaking news straight ahead. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: The very first thing the media did was blame the president and make him responsible for these ridiculous acts. That is outrageous that that would be the very first reaction of so many people across this country. I'm not finished. The only person responsible for carrying it out, either at these heinous acts were the individuals who carried them out. It's not the president, no more than it was Bernie Sanders' fault for the individual who shot up a baseball field of congressional Republicans. You can start putting the responsibility of the individuals on anybody but the individual who carries out the crime. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That was White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders criticizing, rightly, the media for trying to tie President Trump to the horrendous, vicious anti-Semitic shootings in Pittsburgh and the mail bomb scare. Are they that desperate? Here with reaction, American First Action senior advisor, Sean Spicer, American Conservative Union chairman, Matt Schlapp, Florida Republican congressional candidate, Lieutenant Colonel Michael Waltz. And, by the way, Colonel Waltz has been active at the Florida GOP office that had gunshots fired into it over the weekend. Michael, tell us what happened down there. LT. COL. MICHAEL WALTZ (RET) (R), U.S. CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE FOR FLORIDA: Well, apparently, someone decided to shoot up the local party headquarters where I also have a campaign office. I was just speaking there last week and the podium and the wall where I was speaking is now riddled with bullets, Sean. So, this is personal. The campaign volunteers had just left before this happened. I got to tell you, as a combat veteran, you know, this is what we deal with over in the third world, over in places all over the world. You know, in America, we resolve our political differences with debate, with votes, not with guns and bombs. And, Sean, this is why we need, in my view, more combat veterans in office, on both sides of the aisle, because, you know, we have perspective. Our enemies have names, like Osama bin Laden and like Mullah Omar, you know, not to names like Nancy or Chuck. We understand who their real enemies of the United States are. And this is no way to resolve our political differences. HANNITY: And this is something we should all now. WALTZ: This has to stop. HANNITY: You know, and, Sean Spicer, I never blamed Bernie Sanders -- as a matter fact, I went out of my way to say he's not responsible for what one of his supporters dead on that ball field. I was clear when Obama was president, when somebody walked into the White House and literally didn't get caught, we got to protect our president. And I agreed with very little politically with Obama. SEAN SPICER, REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: You're right. But you also have been very clear that anybody who wants to use violence or any type of threatening activity as a way to get their means is not something that you find acceptable. You've even gone so far as to talked about protecting other journalists from networks that are rivals. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way, Jim Acosta. I said I'd defend him and defend him if anyone laid a hand on him. I don't particularly like him but it's the wrong -- it's the right thing to do. SPICER: Right. HANNITY: Just because somebody chants fake news doesn't call -- that's not a call for violence. It's a calling out of their horrible coverage. SPICER: Right. And what troubles me right now, Sean, is that there is a tremendous tragedy experienced in Pittsburgh just a few days ago. There was another tragedy when so many of these individuals all be on the other side of the aisle had threatening pipe bombs sent to them. I can't imagine the level of anxiety and concern that that puts those individuals and their family. This should be a time of healing this should be a time of concern. Instead, we see this finger pointing. Mostly in the direction of President Trump trying to figure out how much blame we can assign to him. As opposed to comforting those who were injured or who lost loved ones in Pittsburgh. This should be a time when we come together as an American and talk about how great we are as a country. I've heard that rabbi make so many great statements about what a great country we are and how his synagogue is going to be a place of prayer. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He did a beautiful prayer today, I would say that. SPICER: He did. HANNITY: Yes. SPICER: And that's who we are as a country. It's about the people who rush to the scene not that all the individuals that shot up. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me go to Matt. SPICER: And yet, we are talking too much about -- we're talking too much about the media and their role in assigning blame than those who suffered a loss. HANNITY: But it's despicable. The rush to -- look, they hate Trump on these networks. Every second, every minute, every hour of every day and then they can't understand why they get criticized. It's warranted that's why. You know, Matt, for example, the media only cares about Russian collusion and not about Hillary's bought and paid for dossier. MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: That's right. HANNITY: Used to lied commit frauds on FISA courts and influence an election. They only care about Kavanaugh 40 years ago but not about Keith Ellison or ill Clinton. SCHLAPP: Right. HANNITY: And similarly, you know, all of these people that have been, you know, attacked in restaurants by mobs, they were virtually silent. So, their hypocrisy is on display. SCHLAPP: Well, I know what it's like because I go on some of these networks and some of these shows. And I will tell you, Sean, that the-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You have my sympathy. SCHLAPP: The American people are fair and they see through this. If you look at the polls. You know, some these media personalities like to talk about the president's polls which are actually pretty stout especially heading for with the week to go before the election. If you look at their own polls they're terrible. People will actually will be called the fake news or the left leaning news, whatever you want to call it, they are not held in highest esteem by the American people. Because they believe they have an agenda and they're dishonest about that agenda and so they try to spin everything that happens in society, in this case, into Donald Trump's fault. He is responsible for everything that's going wrong in the country. The problem with that is that the polls show that the American people actually feel better about this country than in all the eight years of Barack Obama. So, we are on the right track. And they see the president as leading and they don't believe these lies. HANNITY: All right. Let me ask all three of you. Michael, we'll start with your predictions. It's either going to be Republican wins House and Senate, extra seats. Split decision on the House and the Senate or Democrats win? Prediction? MICHAEL WALTZ, CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE, (R) Florida: Sean, I've knocked hundreds of thousands of doors over the last year. The people-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I am not asking that. Give me a prediction. WALTZ: People want results. They don't want resistance. Period. And I think we're going to see a Republican win and Republican turnout. The red wave is coming. HANNITY: What do you think, Sean Spicer? SPICER: Republicans pick up seats in the Senate. We have a 55-seat majority. We maintain a two-vote majority in the House. Maintain both Houses. HANNITY: What do you think, Matt? SCHLAPP: Three seats in the Senate or more and I think it's a coin flip on the House. It's getting better for Republicans every day. HANNITY: I say Republicans pick up at least three in the Senate. And if the vote were today, I say they are down five and that Pelosi is winning as of now. That means people have to get out to vote. All right. Thank you, all. When we come back President Trump and first lady Melania traveling to Pittsburgh tomorrow. Kristen Fisher will join us from the White House for the full report. And over 5,000 troops as of today headed to the border. Jason Chaffetz, Sara Carter. A lot more news as Hannity continues. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now from the White House with the very latest on the president's upcoming visit to Pittsburgh tomorrow, as well as an update the president sending troops to our border. Fox News Washington correspondent Kristen Fisher tonight. Kristin? KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Sean, President Trump says that he is going to Pennsylvania to really grieve with the Pittsburgh community. He has been welcomed by the rabbi at the Tree of Life synagogue which is where this deadly attack took place. But there are about a dozen other Jewish leaders from a national organization for progressive Jews who were saying that President Trump is not welcome in their city until he fully denounces white nationalism. Well, tonight, in an interview airing 30 minutes, Fox's Laura Ingraham asked President Trump if he'd like to clarify what being a nationalist means to him. Here's what he said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: To me, I don't have to clarify it. It means I love the country. I look at two things, globalists and nationalists. I'm somebody that wants to take care of our country. Because for many, many years, you know this better than anybody, our leaders have been more worried about the world than they have about the United States. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: Now she also asked him why he decided to take the rare step of sending more than 5,000 active duty military members to the southern border when he deployed the National Guard which is something that both Presidents Bush and Obama did to little effect. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: This is the -- I mean, I am sending up the military. This is the military. And they are standing there. And one thing that we'll have-- (CROSSTALK) LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: No lethal force? TRUMP: When they are captured we don't let them out. What has been happening, and we're not as of pretty recently, we're not letting them out. What happens is they would catch and release. We are catching. We are not releasing. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: Now the White House is also considering some kind of executive or regulatory action. One idea that's being tossed around is to only allow migrants to only make asylum claims at official ports of entry, which means that any migrants who cross the border illegally would not be able to claim asylum in the United States. Now, Sean, that is an option that is still being considered. It is still on the table by, being considered by the White House tonight. But that decision to send the military to the border that is already happening, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Kristin Fisher in our nation's capital tonight at the White House, thank you. Joining us now with reaction the author of the book "The Deep State," Fox News contributor Jason Chaffetz, also Fox News contributor Sara Carter. She just returned from Guatemala for an independent investigation into the caravan. Sara, I'm assuming that 99percent of those people, you know, estimate anywhere from five to seven or 14,000. Some see, to think that the crowd has gone down in size a little bit. I'm assuming 99.8 percent are good people that want a better life for themselves and their families. But there is nobody on television that can vouch for any one person there. You reported that you ran into people with MS-13 tattoos on. And the danger is, we are a nation of laws. Our sovereignty needs to be respected, as well our Constitution and you have to do it legally. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, absolutely, Sean. And when you look at, you know, being in Guatemala and being there when the second wave of the members of the caravan were coming through. I mean, the majority were over 1,500 men. I'm not saying that, you know, the people there shouldn't be trusted or aren't suffering. What we're saying is that we don't know who these people are. They're coming across the border. The majority of them were men like I reported. Some of them were former or current MS-13 gang members. They had tattoos to show it. Some of them were very young. I asked a lot of the men, who were at family age, where is your families, where is your wives, where are your children? Some of them said, well, they're in the front of the line. They went ahead of us. Others said well, they are back home. We are coming to look to work. We expect to find jobs. This is a very dangerous situation, Sean. Remember, nobody crosses through Mexico to the United States borders without paying the drug cartels. HANNITY: Yes. CARTER: The drug cartels and the Norco traffickers on all the routes into the United States. These people are in a very precarious dangerous situation. They are coming to the U.S. border. And I think the president is sending a direct message to Central America, to the Central American governments, take care of your people. Make sure that they are safe in their homelands and stop this migration from coming forward. When he sends the troop to the border, he is sending that message. And I've been told that that message is being well received. Not by all. But for example, the Guatemala government has turned back people. The Mexican government has asked people to return home too. HANNITY: And as Mexico should have stopped this from day one. They did not, you know, if you look at Podesta, congressman, Jon Podesta Center for American Progress they are telling Democrats just get off immigration. Don't talk about it. The silence of the left has been deafening here. Similarly, Maxine Waters even said, they keep tone down. Don't talk about impeach 45. Let's keep it secret. Then we got Phil Bredesen, a candidate from Tennessee, Claire McCaskill, Heidi Heitkamp and now Khrysten Sinema all saying one thing privately and caught on tape that we are acting like moderates, but we're really left hard left swing Schumer supporters. The Democrats can't tell the American people what they want to do. So, they've got basically they have a strategy of lying with eight days to go until the midterms. JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: That's right. They don't have the policies that America agrees with. On immigration they don't have a single bill that they can point to that they're supportive of. They want to abolish the Immigration Customs Enforcement, ICE. They don't want a wall. Some of them want to take down the existing wall. They are encouraging what is, essentially human trafficking. Let's call it what it is. If you're taking people from Honduras and Guatemala and who knows what other countries north through Mexico, that is human trafficking. You would think that somebody in the Democratic side of the aisle would stand up and say enough is enough we're not going to do that. But they want that gavel so bad. They want Maxine Waters to be the chairman of financial services. They want to make sure that Nancy Pelosi is the speaker of the house and I think they are willing to do anything they can to get there. HANNITY: I think that's what the media now why they ratcheted up the way they have. I mean, what they have been doing to the president over this horrific evil synagogue shooting and blaming him. The guy that shot up the place hates him in part, because of his strong support for our closest allies. Our friends Israel. All right. Thank you both. When we come back, eight days to go until the crucial midterms. Things are tight in Florida. Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis, they will join us next, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right, eight days until the important midterms. We now turn our attention to the important state of Florida. Joining us now, Governor Rick Scott who is now running for the Senate. Forty-six, forty-six, why do you run this notoriously close elections in Florida? Can you give us a 10- point lead? It's a tight race there. RICK SCOTT, GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA: That would be nice. But you know, this is a 50-50 state. So, we work every day. But, look, we're going to have a big win and here's why. I'm running against a guy that has never done anything. He's been in office for 42 years and he has absolutely nothing to run on. We just had a horrible hurricane and he goes up to the Panhandle, does photo-ops and says nothing else for me to do. I'm going to the campaign. I mean, we federal resources, state resources, local resources, we all have to work together to take care of those families. But not -- my opponent he is just worried about his job. HANNITY: You know, I watched you during the hurricanes. And I will say this. Because people in Florida need to know. I see you in New York all the time. Because you come up and you come on my radio show. Because you were there enticing business to Florida. If you look, Nelson didn't support the tax cuts. Now you've got, I think of a single accomplishment this guy has ever had or what he's ever done for the people of Florida. And you know, you roll up your sleeves every time there is a hurricane or natural disaster and you are out among the people not sleeping you know, five days at a time. SCOTT: You know, somebody said to me what is the difference? I said I work. Senator Nelson doesn't work. We added 1.6 million jobs, we've cut taxes. I call on companies every day. Nelson -- I mean, he doesn't -- he doesn't do anything. Here's the latest, Sean. You'll love this. We put an ad up today. But here's what Bill Nelson did. In a prior race his campaign manager says I need some money. So, Nelson sells a house for $2 million than what its worth, he puts the money into his campaign. That's D.C. That's D.C. -- you know, that's D.C. corruption. He needs to explain this. Of course, he doesn't. There's no explanation. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Will be the people of the Panhandle be able to get out and vote and get absentee ballots? I know so many people are devastated and please send my best regards and prayers to them. SCOTT: You know, Sean, we, when I worked hard to make sure they got the power back on, they got their food, their water and tarps on their houses. We're down about 15,000 homes and businesses without power. Here's the nice thing about the panhandle. People came from all over the country. They brought food, they've been feeding families. They've volunteered and put tarps on homes. They are buying generators from people. HANNITY: Amazing. SCOTT: This shows you how nice this country is. This a beautiful country. They are going to -- but they are going to get to vote. We've opened up and make sure opened up polling booths. They're going to vote. HANNITY: All right, senator, I know it's a close race. I'm hoping for good results for you on election night. Thank you for the good job you've done. You've done a great state -- job for the state of Florida, brought a lot of jobs. We'd love to see you in the Senate. Thanks for joining us. SCOTT: We'll be there. See you, Sean. HANNITY: And joining us now, Florida Republican gubernatorial candidate, Ron DeSantis who would like to replace Rick Scott. You know, I'm looking at your opponent, if you don't mind me going through. Supported by Bernie Sanders, which is interesting. Financed by all of these rich billionaires on the far, far left. A 40 percent increase in the corporate tax rate he supports. Wants to eliminate stand your ground. Against all of the president immigration policies, wants to abolish ICE, and supports the impeachment of Trump and he is corrupt. Didn't he take free tickets from the FBI undercover guys? REP. RON DESANTIS (R), FLORIDA: Yes. Actually, he's taken more than that. There was a $1,000 ticket to a show to a Broadway show he took-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Hamilton, that's right. DESANTIS: yes, from an undercover agent posing as c contractor with the city. But then the lobbyist who arrange that junket also paid for Gillum to go and have this luxury stay in Costa Rica which is worth about $1,000. And then what happened was Mayor Gillum turned around and gave that same lobbyist a contract with the city for $2 million. So, it's quintessential pay to play municipal corruption. And by the way, that undercover FBI agent, new documents that came out the other day, he actually under-wrote a Gillum fund-raiser for $4,300. Gillum never disclosed that but these documents prove it. So, there is now doubt that there's corruption in Tallahassee. It is one of the most corrupt cities in Florida. It also has the highest crime rate in Florida. And this is a guy who has taken a pledge attacking our men and women in law enforcement. He will not standby them. HANNITY: One of the reasons Florida has prospered, no state income tax. I know Rick Scott brought a lot of business to Florida. If you got a 40 percent increase in your business taxes, you're not going to have anybody coming into Florida. They're all going to leave to friendlier tax states. DESANTIS: We'll lose jobs. We'll lose jobs, we'll lose businesses. And all of the flow of investment that we're prime to get particularly on the heels of the federal tax bill in getting rid of the SALT that will come to a screeching halt. But here is the thing, Sean. He would raise more taxes than just that. That's just what he's touting you-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, let me ask you his. What did he say about the police, he is not a big fan of the police I read? DESANTIS: He said police and prisons have no place in justice. It's outrageous. HANNITY: My gosh. All right. Ron DeSantis, another close race. Florida is very tight. These are two races I'm paying close attention to. Wish you all the best, congressman as you run for governor. More HANNITY after this. HANNITY: All right. That's all the time we have left this evening. We are now eight days away. One week from tomorrow you have the power to shock the world. Three outcomes. You can help Republicans win back the House and Senate or just pick up seats in the Senate, lose the House, split decision, or it could be really bad day. I don't even want to think about that. All right, so let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Load-Date: October 30, 2018 End of Document Democrats Are Blaming President Trump And The Conservatives And Tying The Current Tragedies To Them to Silence And Shut Them Up In This Midterm Elections; President Trump Interviewed Exclusively By Laura Ingraham On Issues Of Midterm Election, The Spate Of Violence, Immigration, Stock Market And Trade Policies; President Trump Discusses Trade and Russia Investigation; Analyst Examines Criticism of President Trump in Wake of Synagogue Shooting; Interview with Senator Lindsay Graham; Al Sharpton Criticizes President Trump's Speech to Turning Point USA's Young Black Leadership Summit Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 29, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7868 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Donald Trump, Naftali Bennett, Joel Rubin, Lindsay Graham, Horace Cooper Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: We can have Republicans win the House and Senate or just pick up seats in the Senate, lose the House, split decision, or it could be a really bad day. I don't even want to think about that. All right, so let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. So Laura Ingraham has an interview with the president, an exclusive, and she calls me from the White House basically rubbing it in today. What's up with that? LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Wait a second. I will not reveal what actually happened, but suffice it to say -- HANNITY: I might have exaggerated a bit but you did call me from the White House, and don't lie, you were kind of rubbing it in a little. INGRAHAM: I was not and you've had about five interviews with the president and travel a -- HANNITY: I've been here 23 years. I get the little, you know, I'm like the bridge between two generations of Fox News. INGRAHAM: No, you are the old generation. You are not the bridge. You are the older generation. I'm just kidding you! HANNITY: Don't watch the interview. INGRAHAM: OK, I mean, you look so young and vibrant as always. Thank you Sean. HANNITY: I just busted my own camera. Great. They are going to put that in my -- take it out of my paycheck. INGRAHAM: Fantastic show as always, Sean. HANNITY: Have a great evening. We're going to be watching. INGRAHAM: All right, thanks so much. I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE on a very big night from Washington. Earlier today, I went one on one with President Trump. We talk about the deadly shooting in Pittsburgh, the spate of pipe bombs sent around the country last week, and the push by some to connect his words with those heinous acts. We also discussed his new plans for the border, the midterm and reports his legal team will provide written answers for Bob Mueller's investigation, but first, using tragedy to silence the president. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. With midterm polls tightening in key races in favor of Republican candidates across the country and that blue wave beginning to slip away, liberals are attempting to neutralize the GOP's most effective campaigner. Of course I'm talking about President Trump. In the last few months, he's delivered results for the American people on the economy and trade, just to name a few. And of course he stood strong on law and order, Justice Kavanaugh and border enforcement. But in the wake of the tragic slayings at a Pittsburgh synagogue over the weekend, some on the left have labored to blunt the Trump momentum by trying to link the president to this lunatic anti-Semite shooter. MSNBC'S in "Morning Joe" even thought to connect the president's views on the migrant mob to the mass shooting. Now, see if you can follow this line of reasoning. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC HOST: The last caravan that they whipped up frenzy about actually only brought 14 arrests by the end of the caravan. They know it's a lie. And they are spreading hatred across America and at the end of the day, Mika, again inspiring people like this Pittsburgh mass murderer. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK. Now, if you can't follow that thinking, the idea at least is transparent, tag conservatives with a gruesome tragedy and then push for the conscription the restriction of speech that liberals find abhorrent. Now, we saw the shameless politicization in the wake of the Mandalay Bay and the Parkland shootings as well. Each time conservatives were singled out and condemned as somehow being guilty or complicit when nothing could be further from the truth. Now, remember when that negligent Broward County Sheriff Israel tried to blame the NRA for the Stoneham Douglas shooting? (BGIN VIDEO CLIP) DANA LOESCH, NRA SPOKESWOMAN: This monster, carrying bullets to school, carrying knives to school, assaulting students, assaulting his parents, 39 visits in the past year. That should never have been allowed to get that far. SCOTT ISRAEL, SHERIFF, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA: And I understand you are standing up for the NRA. You just told this group of people that you are standing up for them. You are not standing up for them until you say I want less weapons. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, the idea then and now is to declare conservative toxic and tie them to a property in hopes of just shutting them up or scaring them so they won't speak out. Effective conservative political speech has to be stifled at all costs, particularly Trump's. This is former President Barack Obama trying to accomplish just that over the weekend. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There's nothing compassionate about ripping immigrant children from the arms of their mothers at the border and putting them in pens. I think it's wrong to spend all of your time from a position of power vilifying people, questioning their patriotism, calling them enemies of the people and then suddenly pretending that you're concerned about civility. Come on! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: No, you come on. You were the president who expanded the family detention and separations out of concern that children were being trafficked in human trafficking. Now, Trump does the same thing, he's depicted as some kind of monster? Give me a break. And MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell tried to go even further attempting to blame not only the president, but his supporters for the horrific shooting in Pittsburgh. That was until a congregant at the Tree of Life synagogue shut her down. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDREA MITCHELL, MSNBC HOST: It is not just our political leaders because we see thousands of people at rallies starting in 2016 and straight through to this weekend who are cheering hateful speech. LOU WEISS, CONGREGANT, TREE OF LIFE SYNAGOGUE: I really can't think of anything less helpful than to be politicizing this. I mean, this man hated Jews. He actually hated Trump as it happens. Some people are trying to discourage Donald Trump from coming to Pittsburgh. He should come. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now the president is going to Pittsburgh tomorrow with the first lady to pay his respects to the families at the Tree of Life synagogue and to comfort the grieving, which is only the right thing to do. The very idea that the president would condone or countenance a rabid anti- Semite killing innocent people in prayer is absurd and its offensive. He has a Jewish daughter, a Jewish son-in-law and Jewish grandchildren. He has been one of the most vociferous and strong supporters of Israel that we've ever had. He relocated the American embassy to Jerusalem in the face of incredible resistance despite the fact that all these other presidents promised to do so. And the president told me today at the White House he is undaunted by the liberal attacks and their outrageous implications. Now, the left can go right ahead, go right on with their pathetic attempts to demonize this president in the last days of this midterm campaign, but it will not work. But it does reveal their desperation. His warning of an approaching horde of noncitizens, one organized by outside political forces, is not messaging hate. It is standing up for America's sovereignty. It's what presidents should do to protect the nation and to preserve the integrity of our own laws. And the Democrats know that is also a winning political message, which is why they're stooping to use tragedy to smear the best campaign closer the GOP has ever seen. Good luck, my friends. It will not work. And that's THE ANGLE. And now my interview with President Trump. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Mr. President, thank you so much for being here today. We really appreciate it. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Thank you Laura. INGRAHAM: I know you're heading to Pittsburgh tomorrow and Rabbi Jeffrey Meyers from the Tree of Life synagogue said last night the following. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEFFREY MEYERS, RABBI, TREE OF LIFE SYNAGOGUE: I want to address for a moment some of our political leaders who are here. Ladies and gentlemen, it has to start with you as our leaders. My words are not intended as political fodder. Stop the words of hate. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So given his words, what do you think your role tomorrow will be and should be? TRUMP: Well, I'm just going to pay my respects. I'm also going to the hospital to see the officers and some of the people that were so badly hurt and I really look forward to going. I would have done it even sooner but I didn't want to disrupt any more than they already have disruption but I look forward to going to Pittsburgh tomorrow. INGRAHAM: You said over the weekend you might even tone up the rhetoric. The media today seized on it at Sarah Huckabee Sanders' press briefing. If they are pointing fingers at you saying, look, you could do more, you're the leader of the free world. What do you say to that? TRUMP: Well you know, I did a rally and I said, in fact, I was thinking about canceling it. I also did the Young Farmers and it was great doing that and then I had a rally afterwards and I said you know, you make them too important if you start canceling. I remember Dick Ross (ph) wanted to get the Stock Exchange open as soon as possible, did a great job and other things. Once you start doing that, once you cancel -- so you are doing a rally and rallies are meant to be fun. Rallies are meant to be everything and I said tone it down and then you saw the group saying, no, don't tone it down, don't tone it down. So, we had a great rally in Illinois for some great people and frankly, I think that's probably the way it should be. You should go about your life. You can't let these people disrupt any more than they already have, which is disgraceful. What he did is disgraceful. You can't let it happen. As far as with the rabbi said, I agree with him. INGRAHAM: The word nationalism has taken on, for the left, this connotation, of fueling anti-Semitism, hate, even violence. Do you think that is fair and do you want to further clarify what nationalism means to you? TRUMP: No. To me I don't have to clarify. It means I love the country. It means I'm fighting for the country. I look at two things, globalists and nationalists. I'm somebody that wants to take care of our country because for many, many years, you know this better than anybody, our leaders have been more worried about the world than they have about the United States. And then leave us in a mess, whether it's the wars, whether it's the economy, whether it's debt, whether it's all of the things that they've done, including putting in the wrong Supreme Court justices, and we've already put two great ones in. Now, I'm proud of this country and I call that nationalism. I call it being a nationalist and I don't see any other connotation than that. Now, as soon as you make any statement nowadays with the political correctness world, they make a big deal. I'm not a globalists but I want to take care of the globe, but first I have to take care of our country. I want to help people around the world but we have to take care of our country or we won't have a country, including we have to take care of our country at the border. INGRAHAM: When you hear people use the phrase anti-Semitism to describe anything connected to you, you have a Jewish daughter, you have grandchildren who are Jewish, what's your reaction to that? TRUMP: And it just received an award from the state of Israel from Bibi Netanyahu thanking me because I moved the, as you know, the embassy to Jerusalem, making Jerusalem the capital of Israel and I just did that. Now, how many presidents said they were going to do it and they never did it? Many, many presidents. I won't go over the names but I can tell you every one of them. I can tell you what every one of them said. I just opened up and we opened it up. We didn't just name (ph) it, you know, it is going to take years and years to build and it was going to cost over a billion dollars. I opened up a beautiful building for $400,000, already open, well over a billion dollars and it's opened after four months. INGRAHAM: And you were criticized for that too. You were criticized at the time I believe for being too pro- Palestinian, and now you're criticized on the other side. TRUMP: And in fact, this horrible human being, this terrible person tht did the shooting, he was not a Donald Trump fan because he said I was too close to Israel. So, that seemed to be his reasoning. So, I will tell you, I'm going to show you right after, I'm going to show the most beautiful plaque. It just came. They must have known you were going to be doing this interview, but it was sent by Bibi Netanyahu thanking me for opening the embassy in Jerusalem, which as you know is like the biggest deal. INGRAHAM: The phrase enemy of the people, another phrase that's been seized upon by many in the media, many in CNN, but not just CNN. There was a woman who was just on CNN a short while ago saying that you have radicalized more people than ISIS. That was CNN today. TRUMP: Well, that must be some kind of a sick woman. When I say the enemy of the people, I'm talking about the fake news, and you know it better than anybody. You have news out there they are so fake and I can do the greatest thing ever, North Korea as an example. We would have been going to war. Normally, we would have been going to war with North Korea. I think President Obama would have gone to war. If he had had an extra year he would be in right now a war with North Korea. He told me it was by far -- and I'm not knocking him for this -- he said it is by far his biggest problem. Look at what we've done and yet when they talk about North Korea they say what's taken so long? INGRAHAM: But you know they're going to be biased. TRUMP: This has been -- wait a minute -- this has been going in 70 somewhat years and they say -- I left Singapore where we had our meeting, where we really had a very good meeting and a good relationship, like what four months ago. They say the new line is what's taking so long? I say -- INGRAHAM: Well, how does it help expand your base to call them the enemy of the people? How does it help America heal in times like this? TRUMP: Because, I'll tell you why, it's a very good question. Before we finished, so we've done a great job with North Korea. Then they said we can't get them on anything because the sanctions are wrong, we got everything, there's no missiles, we got our hostages back. We have the remains coming back -- everything. So now they said he met -- the new line is, I met. INGRAHAM: Of course. TRUMP: But listen to this. INGRAHAM: But why are you expecting they are going to be fair to you? They're never going to be fair to you. TRUMP: But they were thinking I met, OK. That's the new line. I shouldn't have met, so, you know. And if you go back to before I got here and look like we were going to war, above war with North Korea. So -- INGRAHAM: I was here with Reagan. I refer Reagan, they called him stupid, dumb, slept on the afternoon, incompetent, a warmonger and he always kind o -- he was like -- he had Stealey (ph), but he was -- TRUMP: But he didn't have social media. He would have fought back. He didn't have social media. When they -- it's my form of telling the truth. Here's the problem, we have a lot of supporters. You know that better than anybody. All you have to do is look at your ratings, OK. But you know it better than anybody, their supporters know that they're lying. I watched "Meet The Press" this weekend. Everything was so falsely put, putting words in people's mouths -- INGRAHAM: Are they trying to hobble you in the midterms because you're the best closer for this party. That's what the Republicans are saying. TRUMP: Well, 100 percent. They are going at it and I'm getting 25 and 30,000 people to these rallies. Nobody's ever seen it. There has never been anything -- this isn't bragging. There has never been anything like what's happening. I went to Illinois. You're going to see, a Boeing 747, this massive hanger packed and they had to use a second hanger for the overflow. Nobody has seen anything -- INGRAHAM: Yes. TRUMP: And always, look what happened for Ted Cruz. He's doing great now. We left Houston, he's now doing great. They don't even talk about that race and his opponent is not very good. INGRAHAM: The bomber who sent the letters to CNN and Democrats was a fan of yours. He obviously also seems insane, completely insane. So, what do you say about that? You put bomb in quote, they went crazy over that too over the weekend because you used the word bomb in quotes. Would you like to kind of -- TRUMP: No, look. He was insane a long time before -- you look at his medical records, he was insane for a long time. Bernie Sanders had a fan who shot a very good friend of ours, Steve Scalise, and other people. He was a total maniac. Nobody puts his name in the headline, Bernie Sanders, in the headline wit the maniac -- INGRAHAM: In fact, Nancy Pelosi said do not politicize this back at the time. TRUMP: I was in the headline of "The Washington Post," my name associated with this crazy bomber. Trump bomber or something, but I was in the headline when they got him. They didn't say bomber found, they talked about Trump in the headline. Now, they didn't do that with Bernie Sanders when he had -- they didn't do that with the Democrats when other people came out. They didn't do that with President Obama with the church, the horrible situation with the church. They didn't do that. They put my name in the headlines. When I say enemy of the people, I'm talking about the fake news, and it is fake. And the thing is, my people understand. One quick (inaudible), so, a reporter for "The Washington Post" does a story that -- a place that I was doing, an arena was empty and he shows a picture, not a very good crowd Mr. Trump, something to that effect. And then it turned out that he took the picture five hours before the people started coming into the arena. The arena was packed and there were thousands of people outside. They had to retract it. But this is the kind of dishonesty that we have. (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Part two of my interview with the president is next. His reaction to former President Obama hitting him on the midterm trail and so much more. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Now for more of my interview with President Trump. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Going into some individual races, Florida obviously so important to 2020, but important period. Andrew Gillum against Ron DeSantis. Ron DeSantis congressman, strong supporter of yours. Over the weekend you called Andrew Gillum, you referenced him being a thief, what did you mean by that? TRUMP: Well 100 percent. Well, the FBI offered him tickets, said $1,800 a piece and he took them. He took a trip with the same FBI agent I guess he was posing as a developer or something. The man stone cold took the stuff. I don't even think he should be allowed to continue on wit this. INGRAHAM: He responded today by calling you weak. You are howling because you're weak. That's what he said in a tweet. TRUMP: I haven't heard that one lately. That's OK. Good, that's a change of pace. Look, here's a guy that in my opinion is a stone cold thief and his city, Tallahassee, is known as the most corrupt in Florida and one of the most corrupt in the nation. He's a disaster and how he's even close to being tied is hard to believe. But Florida can't have -- if Florida has a governor like that, and I know Florida better than I know practically anywhere. Florida will become Venezuela. It will be a disaster and you have Ron DeSantis, who is a Harvard Yale guy. He's had a really terrific, you know, he's very good person. He's going to be a very good to a great governor. This other guy is a stone cold, in my opinion, he's a thief. How can you have a guy like this? And you just look at his record. Also, look at the job he's done as the mayor of Tallahassee. He's a total disaster. INGRAHAM: John James of course, running for senate. TRUMP: Star. INGRAHAM: Beto O'Rourke is down in the polls since you came in Texas but John James is only eight or nine points off his senate bid. He's like Army combat veteran. Why do you think he's not getting the play? TRUMP: He is doing so well that I'm trying to get to Michigan. That's how well John James. John James is a star. African-American, great guy, and you know John James -- he was one of four or five people running and I'm watching television and I see John James and I said who is that guy? He is running in Michigan. Let me see him again and I said that guy is great, he's a star. Now, she -- I don't know, she is just a clone for -- all she is an automatic vote -- Debbie Stabenow. She has been a disaster for Michigan. She is an automatic vote for Schumer. John James is a young star and I said I'm going to back him and I backed him. (Inaudible) I backed him and he's taken off. He ends up winning with, you know, not a lot of money, ends up winning the primary and he's doing really well. He's down seven which sounds like a lot but it's nothing because normally they are down 25 or 30. INGRAHAM: Obama is kind of following you on the campaign trail. He was in Wisconsin -- TRUMP: How is his grass(ph)? INGRAHAM: Yes, at Wisconsin. He's going to Florida this week and he brought up the issue of the caravan and he said the following. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: They're trying to convince everybody to be afraid of a bunch of impoverished, malnourished refugees a thousand miles away. That's the thing, the most important thing in this election. Not health care, not whether or not folks are able to retire. Suddenly it's this group of folks we don't even know where they are. They're way down there. Don't fall for that kind of fearmongering. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: We are scaremongering people on the border. TRUMP: Yes. Well, he's trying to do the opposite. It's the problem with our country and you look at that caravan and you look largely, very, you know, big percentage of men, young, strong. A lot of bad people, a lot of bad people in there. People that are in gangs. We don't want them in this country. If they want to come into the country you have to apply like other people. We have millions of people coming in. They apply. They're coming in legally. We have a very strong border. I called up the military. This caravan is not -- they're wasting their time. They are not coming over the country. INGRAHAM: What is the military going to be able to do? Obama and Bush both sent the National Guard and it had no effect. TRUMP: But they're not me. They're not me. I'm sending up the military. This is the military and their standing there and one thing that will happen -- INGRAHAM: No lethal force. TRUMP: -- when they are captured, we don't let them out. What has been happening and we are not as of pretty recently, we are not letting them out. What happens is they would catch and release. We are catching, we are not releasing, so if they want to come over -- we're not even doing that. We're not letting them into this country. Were not going to let gang members -- INGRAHAM: But what if they're applying for asylum? Isn't the law because Congress is changing (ph) the law? TRUMP: If they are apply for asylum, we are going to hold them until such time is their trial to -- INGRAHAM: Where? Do we have the facilities? TRUMP: We're going build tent cities. We're going to put tents up all over the place. We are not going to build structures and spend all of these, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. We are going to have tents, they are going to be very nice and they are going to wait and if they don't get asylum they get out. And very few people -- they don't actually -- if you want to wait, they don't usually get asylum. You know that. INGRAHAM: Eighty percent, the projected. TRUMP: The problem is they release them in and then they have the trial three years later and nobody shows up. But we are going to -- unlike Obama and unlike others, we are going to take the people, were going to put them in and they're going to wait. And you know what, two things happen. When they find out that that happens you're going to have far fewer people come up. And also, President Obama separated children from parents. Nobody talks about this. INGRAHAM: Until a judge came along and said you can't do it. TRUMP: No. He separated -- no, President Obama separated -- INGRAHAM: No, in the beginning. TRUMP: OK, just so we all understand -- INGRAHAM: "The New York Times" is saying the military, Mr. President, being called up by you is an election year play. Is this politics or is this real? TRUMP: We are being invaded. When you look at that, thousands of people. Somebody said, you know, now on that one when they built it down. I'm pretty good at figuring out how many people. Thousands and thousands of people on the bridge when you look at that bridge loaded up with people. That's called an invasion of our country. This has nothing to do with elections and I've been saying this long before election, I've been saying this before I ever thought of running for office. We have to have strong borders. If we don't have strong borders we don't have a country. INGRAHAM: Democrats are worried about the Latino vote suddenly. They are worried they're not going to get the numbers. TRUMP: They should be. They should be. You know why? Because the Latinos, the Hispanic-Americans have the best unemployment numbers and employment numbers in the history of our country. The African-Americans have the best employment and unemployment numbers in the history of our country. Asians, best employment numbers in the history of our country. Women, 65 years, you know, all of these things, women have the best numbers they've had in 65 years. They should be worried. INGRAHAM: How are you going to expand into these traditional Democratic areas? TRUMP: With results. INGRAHAM: Kanye West spend some time here. TRUMP: He was great. He was great Jim Brown. They were great. INGRAHAM: It's fascinating. How big of an effect is West on this push for African-American support? TRUMP: Well, a person came into my office who does poll numbers, said I do not believe how good these poll numbers are with African-Americans, and you see what's happened with my poll numbers. But here's what also happened. When we have the best employment numbers, the best median income numbers for all of these groups. I mean, we have the best numbers we've ever had and I sometimes jokingly say it's going to be awfully tough to beat me in a debate when I have the best numbers ever produced. So I think they should be worried. They should be worried about the African-Americans because they are going to lose them. INGRAHAM: Will you do some events in the inner cities? TRUMP: I'm doing them. I already have them scheduled. INGRAHAM: One thing that I think a lot of us are very concerned about is what's happening with the market this year. It's flat for the year, down a little bit, off its record high, both the S&P and the Dow. I know you've complained about the Fed before. How much is cheap credit globally is a part of this problem? TRUMP: Well, remember this, President Obama had the worst recap that we've ever had since the Great Depression, OK, in terms of coming back. But he was dealing with zero money, zero interest money. We actually created value for money so the people that have money in the bank and did it the way you were supposed to do, they are actually getting interest on the money now. The Fed is being very tight. Now, in one way you have to say that's very conservative. That's a good thing from the standpoint of conservative. I don't like it because it closes it down a little bit, but we're up. We are up almost 50 percent from the time I got elected, almost 50. In fact, more in some instances and now we are down just a little tiny bit. We have such a strong -- when you go job numbers, when you go companies moving into our countries. We have so many companies, big ones like Foxconn and like the car companies. They are moving back to Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, North Carolina, they are coming back and nobody's ever seen this. You've never seen it before. They left and they had no intention. We just signed a deal with Mexico and with Canada. We did a new deal with Korea. INGRAHAM: How about Bolsonaro? You talked to him last nigh. What can we expect for -- he's called the Trump of South America. TRUMP: I know. I'm honored. We had a great conversation, and he's now the head of Brazil. INGRAHAM: A deal, trade deal? TRUMP: Yes, I could see that happening. You know, Brazil has traded as very tough because they charge very big tariffs. Brazil has been very tough. So, we'll be able to straighten that out, but we have of course what's happening with China. China has been really hurting our country economically. And you see, we are going to win that one. It's going to happen. We're going to win that one. INGRAHAM: How confident are you about the deal? TRUMP: I could make a deal right now, I just say they are just not ready. INGRAHAM: $250 billion additional tariffs if that deal doesn't go through. TRUMP: $250 billion and have $267 billion waiting to go if we can't make a deal. INGRAHAM: Are you optimistic? Scale of 1 to 10. TRUMP: I think that we will make a great deal with China, and it has to be great, because they've drained our country. We have really helped rebuild China. They've been taking out an average of $500 billion, billion, a year for many years. Not going to happen anymore. INGRAHAM: Who is your dream person to run against in 2020? You've already raised $100 million. Dream, dream candidate to run against? TRUMP: So far I like them all. I don't see anybody -- INGRAHAM: Hillary, apparently she's not down and out. TRUMP: I like her, too. I like her, too. I would be very happy with Hillary. I like them all. I don't see anybody that I wouldn't enjoy running against. And that could happen, but I don't see it right now. INGRAHAM: A couple other questions FOX viewers really want to know. Declassifying those documents, they were kind of kicked over to the inspector general. Why not declassify them, get them all out? TRUMP: We are getting very close to doing what we have to do. I want to wait until after the election. INGRAHAM: Why are you and Rod Rosenstein such good friends now? It seems like everything has been settled. TRUMP: I do get along. But this should have never -- there should have never been a special council, in my opinion. It's an illegal investigation totally. A lot of people agree with me. A lot of people on your show and on other shows agree there was no collusion, there was never any collusion. It shouldn't have ever happened. But with all of that being said, I do get along. And I have made everything available. You know why? Because I have nothing to do with Russia. Hillary was a lousy candidate, and I did a very good job. INGRAHAM: Are you going to do written questions, written answers? TRUMP: She didn't go to Wisconsin, she didn't go to Michigan enough. She didn't do what she had to do to win, and it's just one of those things. But we have nothing to do with Russia, and I think you probably know that almost better than anybody. INGRAHAM: The written questions to Mueller's, written answers to his question? TRUMP: It's ridiculous that I have to do anything because we didn't do anything. But we will probably do something, yes, where we will respond to some questions. INGRAHAM: How's Melania doing? TRUMP: She's doing fantastically, really good. She's doing a great job. Just got back from Africa, and she saw some things that were really eye- opening. And tremendous poverty, tremendous poverty. So we're trying to help. INGRAHAM: Thank you, sir. Thank you for your time. TRUMP: Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you, Laura. INGRAHAM: Really appreciate it. (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: A bit more of our interview in the last part of a show. But next, in the aftermath of the deadly shooting at that Tree of Life Synagogue, critics took aim at President Trump's rhetoric. Ahead, the Israeli minister of education responds. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I'm just going to pay my respects. I'm also going to the hospital to see the officers, and some of the people that were so badly hurt. And I really look forward to going. I would have done it even sooner but I didn't want to disrupt any more than they already had disruption. But I look forward to going to Pittsburgh tomorrow. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was President Trump on what he hopes to accomplish with his visit to Pittsburgh in the aftermath of the horrific attack that left 11 dead. Now, some have suggested that the president's own language contributed to this tragedy, and even though the perpetrator hated his support for Israel and apparently hated him. Here to react, Naftali Bennett, the Israeli minister of education and minister of the diaspora Jews, along with Joel Rubin, president of the Washington Strategy Group and former Obama deputy assistant secretary of state. Mr. Minister, I would like to start with you. What would you like to say tonight to the president's critics? We'll get to some of the specifics in a moment, but a message to them about their concern about his language? NAFTALI BENNETT, ISRAELI MINISTER, DIASPORA AFFAIRS: First of all, I came over from Israel to tell the folks in Pittsburgh that we stand united. Israel has always been under attacks, and now we've seen the deadliest anti- Semitic attack in America's history. And we do stand united with our brothers and sisters. Unfortunately, anti-Semitism has always existed. Where there are Jews, there's always been anti-Semitism, and we need to speak up. And I believe that's what the president is about to do. What he's done, he spoke up very loudly, very clearly, saying he would fight anyone who is anti-Semitic, and that's what we would expect, and we were very pleased to hear that. INGRAHAM: What about the resistance, though, Mr. Bennett? The resistance to the president's visit by, not all, but some more progressive of Jewish leaders in the country and in Pittsburgh proper. They were even criticizing your decision to come to Pittsburgh, and I believe we have one of those -- this is a tweet by David Simon, who is a Jewish-American writer. He said "Go home. Netanyahu's interventions in U.S. politics aided in the election of Donald Trump and his raw and relentless validation of white nationalism and fascism. The American Jewish community is now bleeding at the hands of Israeli prime minister and many of us know it." Those are tough words, not just directed at Donald Trump, but Bibi Netanyahu. BENNETT: Those are terrible words, but they are on Twitter. They are not in reality. I spent a couple of days in Squirrel Hill in Pittsburgh with the Jewish community, and all I received was warmth, desire for unity. I think the president is absolutely right as the leader of the United States to go there and visit. I'm sure he would have been criticized had he not decided to go. And I think it's time for unity and for all of us to stand together. That's what we're doing. INGRAHAM: Joel, let's go to you. Some of the language being tossed around about President Trump I find to be not that helpful. This is a woman named Julia Ioffe on CNN just moments before I interviewed the president. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JULIA IOFFE: This president, one of the things that he really launched his presidential run on is talking about Islamic radicalization. And this president has radicalized so many more people than ISIS ever did. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: She came out with kind of a half-hearted apology afterwards, Julia Ioffe, her name is. Your thoughts? JOEL RUBIN, FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE: Laura, first and foremost, I thank the minister for coming to Pittsburgh. I'm a fourth- generation Pittsburgher, grew up in Squirrel Hill. That's my parents' synagogue that got shot, so it's very personal. So for him to be there, it's positive. Political debate is part of Jewish life, and it's also part clearly of the community's feelings. This tweet, this statement, it reflects a real raw emotion right now. And I think American Jews in particular are very concerned about the rhetoric about how Jews are being described right now in the political environment. And we feel that that is contributed to a culture of hate that may have inspired this killer. INGRAHAM: The reference to Donald Trump, though. Donald Trump just -- I had the chance to see this big stone plaque he received today from Benjamin Netanyahu for his work for the Jewish people. It was in the Oval Office. He had just received it. His daughter is Jewish, grandkids are Jewish, son-in-law is Jewish. A year ago, I think, there were saying he was too pro-Jewish. He was anti-Palestinian because of the move ultimately of the embassy to Jerusalem. Saying that he's causing a horrific attack by a man who said he despised Donald Trump. RUBIN: These are two separate issues. Support for Israel is not the same as what the American Jewish experience is. And right now in this country there is deep concern. After Charlottesville, for example, where the president was not clear in his condemnation of the white supremacy. And that kind of fed into this idea that maybe the president is not calling anti-Semitism or ethnic baiting enough. And it continues. There are many examples that make people very concerned about how we're being treated right now here at home. INGRAHAM: Mr. Minister, your response to that? The Jewish community has been fairly -- more Democratically aligned politically. But this is a tragedy that hits home for so many, including Joel, so many out there. Your final thoughts tonight? BENNETT: I think we all have to speak out whenever anyone talks anti- Semitism, be at Louis Farrakhan, who just a few days ago compared Jews to termites, or David Duke. RUBIN: Agreed. BENNETT: And I think President Trump has been extremely supportive of the state of Israel. Moved to the embassy to Jerusalem, has recognized Jerusalem as our capital, has been a big friend of the Jewish people. This is not a partisan issue. It's got to be bipartisan. The president and on the other side of the aisle, everyone has to step up, speak up against anti-Semitism, and that's exactly what's going on here. INGRAHAM: We all can probably do a little bit better tonight, and I appreciate both of your being here. Thank you so much. And Lindsey Graham has been hitting the trail for the GOP senators across the country and came face-to-face with some nasty protesters in Tennessee. He's going to be her next to tell us why this exemplifies what's at stake just eight days away. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Senator Lindsey Graham was campaigning with Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn in Nashville yesterday when a mob of angry leftists disrupted them, yelling for Trump's impeachment. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let's take a moment and remember those that lost their lives in Pittsburgh. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Marsha Blackburn is a white supremacist! (SHOUTING) CROWD: USA! USA! USA! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And did you catch that? During a moment of silence for the Pittsburgh victims, these disgusting protesters heckled Senator Graham and Marsha Blackburn. Senator Lindsey Graham joins us now. And senator, you say this paints a clear picture as to what's at stake in these midterms and why they're so important. I know you have been running yourself ragged going all over the country. And thanks for staying up with us tonight, but this is a very important time for this country. Explain why you think this is so critical at this juncture. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, (R) SOUTH CAROLINA: Who do you want to run your government? The bottom line, what they did was rude and crude. It's the gift that keeps on giving to Republicans politically. This is not good for the country. If you want to reward this behavior, then you get a chance a week from tomorrow to do so. If you think this is inappropriate and wrong for the country, you can vote Republican. I've tried to work across the aisle. I will keep trying to work across the aisle, but I've had it with this intimidation, in- your-face radical left. I want to shut them down, and the best way to shut them down is to beat them at the ballot box. INGRAHAM: Senator Graham, there has been a drumbeat over the past few days since this horrific, dastardly, evil, satanic act took place at that synagogue. And we have a montage, I just want to share with you, of individuals on television trying to tag President Trump with it. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have a problem, and we have a president who doesn't seem to believe he has a role to play in dealing with it. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would put specific responsibility on the president. I think what he's done over the course of the last few years is help foment this. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At the center, an unapologetically incendiary president untrammeled by traditional norms of civility. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Your reaction? GRAHAM: Again, they don't get it. I think when we win a week from tomorrow, and I think we will, I hope they understand that one of the reasons that we are doing so well as Republicans is people are disgusted with what you've just seen and heard. Nobody blamed Bernie Sanders when his supporter shot Steve Scalise, tried to kill a bunch of Republicans. Nothing Trump can do is right in the eyes of these people. Trump is not responsible for this anti-Semitic hatemonger who will meet justice. That's not Donald Trump's fault. He didn't send anything through the mail. That's not his fault. It's not the left's fault when people do bad things in the name of the left. So the American people have had it with this. I've had it with it. Kavanaugh, the caravan, blaming Trump for everything under the sun. If you want to change the way the country is going and you want to tell these people they've got it wrong, then vote a week from tomorrow for the Republican Party. The only way they're going to change is for them to lose. If you want Kavanaugh to mean anything and if you don't want any more Kavanaugh character assassinations, then you need to reject what they did and hand them the defeat they deserve. They want power so badly, the media is in the tank for them, and the only way they'll get it is for the American people to send a loud and clear signal that we're tired of you, tired of your tactics and blaming every Republican for everything. INGRAHAM: Senator, very quickly, the 5,200 troops being called up to go to the border, I understand they're going to be putting reinforced razor wire on the border fence. Donald Trump reacted to this, but Bush tried National Guard and Obama tried National Guard. We spent like $1.4 billion, we didn't get much for it. Do you think this will be different this time? GRAHAM: Name one person who has tried to solve immigration harder than I have. I've reached across the aisle, and I am offended by this caravan trying to overrun our country. We are a hospitable nation. They're taking advantage of our generosity. We need to send a clear signal to this caravan and every other caravan that America is not going to tolerate this. So President Trump is doing the right thing. To our friends in Mexico, if you don't help Trump stop this caravan you're going to pay a price in Congress when it comes to this trade deal. INGRAHAM: Lindsey Graham, thank you so much. I know you stayed up for us. We really appreciate it. And we break down some ugly comments from Al Sharpton this weekend about President Trump's appearance at a Turning Point USA's Young Black Leadership Summit. Stay there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REV. AL SHARPTON, MSNBC HOST: It was a make America great rally, the use of young blacks as props, which really is an insult to them. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Those wide remarks by Al Sharpton were directed at the attendings of Turning Point USA's Young Black Leadership Summit where President Trump gave a speech last week. Here to react is Horace Cooper, co- chair of Project 21. Horace, it seems that the reverend Al believes that only Democrats should have the monopoly on outreach to African- Americans. I found that, I've got to say -- I shouldn't be surprised, but it was still despicable. HORACE COOPER, CO-CHAIR, PROJECT 21: Not just the monopoly on outreach, also the monopoly on the use of bigoted and racist remarks with every single group. He didn't just attack Kanye West and other moderate blacks. He's attacked gays. He's attacked Asians, both Chinese and Koreans. It's his vile language that refers to people who are Jewish as diamond merchant. These are the kinds of comments that a man like this makes, and then he wants to stand up and say he should be the arbiter of what constitutes racism and what doesn't. My group, Project 21, was created precisely because we want to make sure people understand that black Americans aren't identified by our skin color. We all have individual views, opinions. We can be Democrats, we can be Republicans. He's none of those things. He's just a bigot. INGRAHAM: To your point, MSNBC trotted out Al Sharpton this weekend to react to the Pittsburgh tragedy. Was that a wise decision given his ugly history of comments about people of the Jewish faith? Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REV. AL SHARPTON, MSNBC HOST: We must equally be outraged with the Tree of Life 11 and say that there is no room for bigotry anywhere. (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: No room for bigotry anywhere. I would agree with him on that, but why does that not apply to some of his past statements? COOPER: Here is the guy who is the posterchild not for a dog whistle, for coming right out and using the most vile and bigoted remarks. And he targets people all the time. When it was Don Imus who came on his program and wanted to apologize for the bigoted remarks that he had made, his response was, you can't be a purveyor on the national airways if you're making comments like this. And yet there he sits on MSNBC. INGRAHAM: A lot of corporate types like to -- they want to play nice with Al Sharpton because if they do play nice with Al Sharpton they won't get hauled in or sued or they won't be harassed by him. I think that's part of it as well. But to say that the black youth that were at that Turning Point summit were used, that's an insult to their intelligence. They were there because they wanted to be. Horace, thanks so much. And what was behind this moment at the White House Halloween event yesterday? The president explains. INGRAHAM: Tonight's last bite, one more snippet from my conversation with President Trump today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: You had a lot of kids. There was one moment where I was watching on video, there was this little girl. She had kind of a wand or something, and she was -- and you said, you pointed over the press and you said -- what did you tell her? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It was a snake. It was a cobra. It was a cobra. And a little beautiful girl, she -- I said let me have that and I looked at the press. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, that's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the Fox News @ Night team take it from here. Load-Date: October 30, 2018 End of Document Donald Trump's Hot Rhetoric Fosters A Climate That Helped Produce The Pipe Bomb Attacks; Saudi Arabia's Public Prosecutor Says There Is Evidence That Khashoggi's Death Was Premeditated; Megyn Kelly Makes A Big Blunder With Blackface Comments Fox News Network MEDIA BUZZ 11:00 AM EST October 28, 2018 Sunday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7682 words Byline: Howard Kurtz, Gillian Turner Guests: Anthony Scaramucci, Marisa Guthrie Body HOWARD KURTZ, MEDIA BUZZ SHOW HOST, FOX NEWS: On "Buzz Media" this Sunday, President Trump and the media escalate their warfare over who is to blame for the mailing of pipe bombs to CNN and leading Democrats even after an unhinged suspect is arrested. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) DON LEMON, CNN HOST: He blamed the victim tonight. For him to sit there and blame us -- we are the victims here. CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: And only us. LEMON: It's disgusting. CUOMO: They just sent a bomb to CNN and the president doesn't say a word about that and then tells us we are to blame. MARC THIESSEN, COLUMNIST, WALL STREET JOURNAL: The idea that Donald Trump is responsible for these attacks is patently absurd, any more so, by the way, than the idea that Hillary Clinton was responsible for the shooting of Steve Scalise. MIKA BRZEZINSKI, HOST, MSNBC: We don't know who sent the packages, but I do know in my heart that President Trump bears a lot of responsibility for rhetoric that made it almost inevitable that top Democrats and the media would be targeted. ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: The president shows instead to blame one of the intended targets, a target that he himself views and has called publicly an enemy of the people. SEAN HANNITY, TALK SHOW HOST, FOX NEWS: We are on day four of what is the media's shameful attempt to connect President Trump, Fox News, talk radio, even me to these horrible actions of a madman. (END VIDEOTAPE) KURTZ: And that debate extends to yesterday's flutter at a synagogue in Pittsburgh that claimed 11 lives with "The Washington Post" saying Trump is being accused of fostering the toxic environment for such political violence. Is there a journalistic reflex to blame the president? Constant coverage of the caravan as the press accuses President Trump of using the migrants as a way of stirring up his base over illegal immigration and journalists say lying in the process. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) LAWRENCE O'DONNELL, HOST, MSNBC: Of course the Democrats had nothing to do with creating a movement of people in central America so that Donald Trump could use that movement to people as a campaign device to lie about so that he can create more fear and loathing in his desperately fearful supporters. GREG GUTFELD, HOST, FOX NEWS: It was the media and the advocacy groups who seized on the spectacle to begin with, to create an ugly political issue. And then they go, but look what Trump is doing. They are a bunch of hypocrites. (END VIDEOTAPE) KURTZ: Were the fact checkers challenging the president once again? Former Communications Chief Anthony Scaramucci said yeah, he lies, but his supporters don't care. Is that true? "The Mooch" will be here. Plus, NBC has dumped Megyn Kelly from "The Today Show" after a fierce backlash to her comments about dressing up in blackface. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MEGYN KELLY, JOURNALIST AND POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I'm Megyn Kelly, and I want to begin with two words. I'm sorry. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Why was that apology not enough to save her morning show job? I'm Howard Kurtz and this is "Media Buzz." President Trump's initial response to the first wave of pipe bomb attacks against former presidents and a former news outlet was to asked both sides to tone it down. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: The media also has a responsibility to set a civil tone and to stop the endless hostility and constant negative and often times false attacks and stories. Have to do it. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: But CNN president Jeff Zucker chastised Trump and Sarah Sanders in saying there is a total and complete lack of understanding at the White House about the seriousness of their continued attacks on the media. That prompted the president, by the way, to ratchet up his rhetoric on Twitter. "A very big part of the anger we see today in our society is caused by the purposely false and inaccurate reporting of the mainstream media that I refer to as fake news." And then his rallies as well. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We have seen an effort by the media in recent hours to use the sinister actions of one individual to score political points against me and the Republican Party. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Joining us now to analyze the coverage: Emily Jashinsky, culture editor at "The Federalist"; Sara Fischer, media reporter for "Axios"; and Adrienne Elrod, Democratic strategist and former Hillary Clinton campaign aide. Emily, what do you think of journalists and pundits blaming President Trump because of his rhetoric for what was an unknown perpetrator sending pipe bombs to CNN and Barack Obama and the Clintons and Joe Biden and other leading Democrats? EMILY JASHINSKY, CULTURE EDITOR, THE FEDERALIST: I think it's unfortunate and it takes responsibility away from the where it belongs, with the sick and twisted individuals who are committing these heinous crimes whether it's yesterday, whether it was earlier this week with these pipe bombs to blame anybody but the people responsible for this. I find it disgraceful and unfortunate. Of course, my prayers are with the victims of all of these crimes right now. But I just -- it was tough to watch some of the media coverage this week as well. KURTZ: Adrienne, and we see this on the synagogue shooting as well. We'll talk about it in a moment. No matter how much you may -- people may dislike President Trump's rhetoric, fake news, enemy of the American people against the press, I've been critical of that, is the finger pointing unfair when the suspect who was arrested Friday has a long history of crimes and terror threats that way predate Donald Trump being in politics? ADRIENNE ELROD, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST, FORMER HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN AIDE: The media coverage, the media blaming is not unfair because while I'm not going to sit here and blame Donald Trump for any this, I will say that the divisive and hateful rhetoric that he has as president of the United States, he did this when he was a candidate. Frankly it helped get him elected. He is still doing it now as president. That is a big problem here. And what he could have done this week -- KURTZ: It's a big problem. It's funny to say that, when you say here, are you tying that to people using bombs and rifles to kill -- trying to kill other folks? ELROD: I am saying that there is a divisiveness in this country that the president of the United States has created and he goes to his rallies, he criticizes the media. We've had media who of course had to have secret service protection. He is not doing anything to try to bring this country together. He could have used this moment and yet he said couple of things earlier this week to try to, you know, say we need to unify, we need to come together, and then he attacked CNN. Let's also not forget, Howie, that he tweeted a video last year of him in a wrestling outfit tackling a CNN reporter. KURTZ: All right. Let me get to Sara. By the way, even after the suspect was arrested, Steve Schmidt, Republican strategist and MSNBC contributor, said, Trump created an atmosphere where a sick person, a criminal, somebody like this terrorist would actualize Trump's clear intent. So before, it was like, well, don't blame Trump because he might be a lunatic. Now, it's like, yeah, he's a lunatic but he loves Trump, so we can still blame Trump. SARA FISCHER, MEDIA REPORTER, AXIOS: I think that Donald Trump's rhetoric fans the flames for an already existing problem. And so as Adrienne said, there are things that he can be doing to create more unity so that you're not having people that are acting out and blaming, you know, pundits or targeting pundits. But Donald Trump is not doing that. He might say it's time to call for unity, but then he goes out in his rallies and he endorses people who are beating up on journalists. He still continues to attack CNN. And so I think you're in a little bit of a chicken in the egg situation. Once Donald Trump starts, then the media fights back, and it's not a very presidential thing to start. KURTZ: Yeah. There was, by the way, some divisiveness in this country before Donald Trump was elected. Let's turn the camera around because here you have Donald Trump saying the media should be more civil, and I'm seeing very less self-reflection on that. Isn't it true that cable news and the web reward divisive rhetoric and play up inflammatory soundbites? JASHINSKY: This is what's been difficult for me to watch as a conservative, someone who has monitored just terrible media coverage for years and it's part of the reason that I came to the city to do what I do because I grew up so frustrated by this. It's a hard -- I hesitate to talk about it now, because obviously CNN was the victim this week. They had a device sent to their headquarters, whatever. But when you see at rallies people chanting "CNN sucks," I would never do it personally, but CNN makes no effort to understand why people feel that way. They do the opposite, right? The act like they're the victims, that they've done nothing wrong to deserve this, and they have played -- I mean the chyrons that CNN ran on their lower thirds this week, some of them are ridiculous, and that's what get people so upset. And so there is no room for violence. There is no room to be sending devices to CNN. It has to stop. I hate it, but there is a need for self- reflection. KURTZ: I want to get to the chyrons. I'll come to you, Sara, so, first of all, CNN's New York bureau was evacuated along with the rest of Time Warner Center, and the anchors had to go out on the street and report, Jim Sciutto, Poppy Harlow. So, this was personal for CNN. I understand some of the emotional reaction we are seeing. On the other hand, here is John King, CNN anchor, saying on the air that he doesn't blame President Trump for the pipe bomb attacks, and look at this on-screen headline. CNN: Trump has no plans to claim any personal responsibility for inciting serial bomber. Sara? FISCHER: This happens all the time. If you are a web producer and you're changing the headline on the web article, that doesn't reflect the article. The same thing happens in TV. It doesn't make it OK. KURTZ: CNN made an editorial decision to put that on the screen. FISCHER: They absolutely did make an editorial decision, but it wasn't necessarily John King's decision and that's - - KURTZ: You know, I'm not blaming John King, I'm looking at the network. FISCHER: Right. Well, the network is going -- quite honestly, the network is going to blow this up. And they are going to be a little bit hyperbolic to be completely fair because quite frankly they feel personally attacked and because also they feel as though inciting that sort of really, you know, it's like that move is going to resonate with their audience. KURTZ: Adrienne, I have a presidential tweet for you on this very subject put up on the screen. "Funny how lowly- rated CNN, and others, can criticize me at will, even blaming me for the current spate of bombs and ridiculously comparing this to September 11th and the Oklahoma City bombing, yet when I criticize them, they go go wild and scream, it's just not presidential." ELROD: Look, again, I agree with everything that we all said here. This has been an ongoing issue with President Trump and CNN. Obviously, Jeff Zucker, the president of CNN, had every right to say what he said because CNN is taking this very personally. But Donald Trump has a big issue here. Anytime there is an article or any sort of media that he doesn't like that criticizes him, he calls if fake news, when really it's oftentimes covering things that he said, whether he was misspeaking, was lying about something, didn't get facts straight, and he has really caused a lot of distance the very beginning of -- when he started running for president. So, this is an ongoing issue. I wish that we could set -- take this moment and use it as a reset so that the media and the president could start from ground zero -- KURTZ: Yeah. ELROD: -- and we could do a reset. KURTZ: If anything, there has been an escalation. By the way, this suspect in the mail bombs, spewed a lot threats and hate on Twitter, and Twitter did nothing. Twitter needs to step up on this. So, there was also a presidential tweet -- I'm not going to read the whole thing, but basically he was complaining about all the coverage that the mail bomber was getting, saying this was slowing the momentum of the Republicans to the midterms, news not talking politics. President took some heat for that. JASHINSKY: Yeah, I think it sort of reveal the mindset that I wish the president of the United States didn't have. If something happens, you shouldn't automatically be jumping to the political implications of it and how it can be used politically. I didn't like that at all. I mean, this was such a tough week. There are so many things in so many different directions that were disappointing to see. That tweet was one of them. KURTZ: Adrienne, you know, a lot of the critiques I find in the president are about his style. So for example, he didn't mention CNN by name in terms -- he didn't mention Barack Obama. He didn't mention the Clintons. He didn't call any of them. ELROD: Right. KURTZ: And I think there was a lot of criticism in the press, things a traditional president would do, but as we know, Donald Trump is not a traditional president. ELROD: Correct, but still, even he is not a traditional president, there are things that he can still and should do as president of the United States. He should put all his animus aside that he has for Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton and the Obamas and CNN and get on the phone to call these people and say let's use this as a moment to come together, and I'm sorry that you went through this. He didn't do it. KURTZ: Yeah. ELROD: Even if he's not traditional, he still should have done that. KURTZ: He could have said, look, I've been highly critical of CNN and I stand by that criticism, but it is greatly unfortunate that this pipe bombs were sent and, you know, people felt threatened. You think about people losing their lives, whether it is somebody in the mail room or one of the anchors. "The New York Times" had a wrap-up the other about a conspiracy theory that went out there before the arrest. This was some left-wing scam, these were harmless bombs sent by Democratic operatives to generate sympathy, and talking about how it spread from fringe conservative websites, people like Ann Coulter, the mainstream media. Lou Dobbs had a tweet that he posted then deleted, talking about fake bombs. Are some at the media too quick to give this conspiracy theories oxygen? Obviously we know now it's not true because the person was arrested. FISCHER: I think a lot in the media are really too quick to give them oxygen. Part of the problem again, as you mentioned, the social media. You see these conspiracy theories and hash tags go viral instantly overnight. And so they look as a sense of false authority, like they are getting tons of pick up when in reality it is just standing the flames it's not. KURTZ: Right. So then television producers see this and say, oh, it has a thousand re-tweets or million likes or whatever. I guess it's news. We are not endorsing it but then you are kind of spreading it. I think we need to be a lot more cautious about that. Let me get a break here. Ahead, Anthony Scaramucci on his former boss's continuing war and the media and vice versa. But when we come back, the horrifying shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue. Some in the press actually trying to tie this one to the president as well. KURTZ: After a gunman who openly despise Jews opened fire yesterday in a Pittsburgh synagogue killing 11 eleven people and wounding six others, President Trump denounced what he called an evil act produced by the poison of hatred against the Jewish people who he said have been persecuted for centuries. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: This was an anti-Semitic attack at its worst. The scourge of anti- Semitism cannot be ignored, cannot be tolerated, and it cannot be allowed to continue. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: And today "The Washington Post" from page -- above the fold headline pointing to this and other recent attacks states critics as saying the president and the GOP have gone beyond partisan political convent (ph) and to outright demagoguery against racial minorities, foreigners and prominent Jewish political figures. Emily, I am not saying the press shouldn't hold the president accountable for his rhetoric which sometimes gets hot which sometimes is offensive to many people. JASHINSKY: Right. KURTZ: But critics, the critics and couple of liberals say he's fomenting right-wing extremism like it didn't exist before. JASHINSKY: Yeah, "The Washington Post" story was very disappointing because anti-Semitism is something that festers at the fringes of both parties. It completely exists on both sides. And to say that because -- to tie it somehow to -- again, we had this conversation in the last bloc as though the person that is responsible for this is not responsible on their own as though anybody else has any responsibility for what happened in that synagogue yesterday. It is just disappointing. It is really disappointing and wrong. KURTZ: And Adrienne, my heart absolutely breaks for this tight-knit Jewish community in Pittsburgh where this hateful shooting took place in a place of worship. The shooter had a history of anti-Semitic social postings. But as far as President Trump, there were many mass shootings when Barack Obama was president including the tragedy of the nine African-Americans killed in the South Carolina church. So from the press perspective, it is not like this violence began with the Trump administration. ELROD: Correct. This has been going on for a long time now. Mass shootings unfortunately have been going on for a long time. But there is still an underlying threat to the pipe bombs, to the shooting that happened yesterday, and that is hate. The president of the United States regardless of political party has the responsibility to do everything that he or she can bring this country together. And the media is not seeing that from President Trump even though I will give him credit for his words yesterday, which were unifying. But we need to see more of that. And I think that the press does have a point when they say, if the president was doing more to unite this country, you know, we might have -- we might see less of this. KURTZ: Just briefly, Emily, it's not one side. And doesn't the press also have the responsibility to be more careful and what's reported and in inflammatory language and attacks? JASHINSKY: I believe that's true. I will say that in this context, I don't -- obviously both sides have responsibility, but in this context, I don't want to say that either of those things -- I don't want to say the press caused it, I don't want to say the -- KURTZ: No. I'm talking about mutual responsibility. JASHINSKY: Yes. KURTZ: President also getting some flack for saying, well, better if there were armed guards at the synagogue. I don't know if there can be armed guards at every place of worship in America. "Slate" had a headline, Sara, the president's dehumanizing language has made political violence and hate crimes like this, the synagogue shooting more likely. Julia Ioffe, GQ writer who lost a previous job for tweeting a so-called joke about (ph) president and incest, posted this yesterday, "word to my fellow Americans Jews: This president makes this possible. Here. Where you live. FISCHER: Going too far. Absolutely going too far. The president's rhetoric, again, it doesn't help, but the president's rhetoric is not what caused this particular -- KURTZ: She was talking about moving the embassy to Jerusalem which by the way was the official policy of many congresses but just never got enacted. Yes, so when journalists do that, it's your fault, it's your fault, it's your fault, and that undermines credibility. The president had nothing to do with what happened in Pittsburgh. FISCHER: Going back to what Emily was saying before about CNN, I mean, the media has to understand what Trump supporters feel when it comes to the media taking one side, and it's tweets like that, by the way, which make them feel that way. I did account earlier this year, I found that 12 journalists, 12 had lost their jobs this year due to political tweets that were taking one side or another. A lot of them had to do with, by the way, the media going overboard about their criticism of Trump that were unwarranted. Think about Dave Weigel and the tweets from "The Washington Post" about crowd sizes. KURTZ: Jemele Hill of ESPN -- FISCHER: That's right. KURTZ: -- calling him a white supremacist. FISCHER: Yes. Journalists have to take accountability for being fair even in an environment where it can be difficult. KURTZ: You know, there is a long history here and a blame game depending on who the target is. So, we talked about the shooting at the Republican baseball practice last year in Virginia and Steve Scalise almost killed. And the guy there hated Republicans. Left-wing rhetoric can't be blame for that. Some tried to do that. He liked "Rachel Maddow Show." She absolutely nothing to do with it. This guy watch Fox News. Male bomber had nothing to do with it. This goes back to, you know, Sarah Palin being blamed even recently by "The New York Times" for the shooting Gabby Giffords because she put out a political map. When Timothy McVeigh blew up the Oklahoma City federal building. Bill Clinton went after Rush Limbaugh over fostering climate of hate. This has to stop. These are not the people responsible. We should hold them accountable when they go too far in their rhetoric, including the president and others and including the media as well. Great to see you all this Sunday, Adrienne Elrod, Sara Fischer, Emily Jashinsky. Ahead, President Trump accuses the Saudis of a terrible cover-up in the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. Isn't that what the president has been saying all along? Up next, President Trump makes the central American caravan a major midterm issue with plenty of help from the media. KURTZ: It's known simply as the caravan, the thousands of migrants who have made their way from Honduras to Mexico, and President Trump has turned it into a daily television story. What's driving the coverage as Trump knew it would is the pundit challenging his motives and making the migrants a major midterm issue. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NIA-MALIKA HENDERSON, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL REPORTER: One of the things you do see him doing is sort of ginning up the culture war, kind of ginning up this idea that there is this horrible brown people, you know, coming to America, possibly Middle Easterners, even though there is no evidence of it. LAURA INGRAHAM, TALK SHOW HOST, FOX NEWS: Rather than doing actual reporting and digging into this, it is easier to take up the mantra of the left, embed yourself with the migrants, actually, act like you're a migrant, emotionally manipulate the audience and then dismissed Trump as just a heartless fearmonger. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: The media also turned the caravan into a debate on the president's veracity and he gave them the ammunition. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice over): Do you have evidence that there are terrorists in this caravan? TRUMP: You know what you should do, Jon, go into the middle of the caravan, take your cameras and search. You're going to find MS-13, you're going to find Middle Eastern, you're going to find everything. (END VIDEOTAPE) KURTZ: But the White House offered zero evidence as the president had to admit. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) TRUMP: They could very well be. UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice over): But there's no proof. TRUMP: There's no proof of anything. There's no proof of anything, but they could very well be. (END VIDEOTAPE) KURTZ: While Trump weighs an emergency plan to close the border to the migrants, that was leaked to "The Washington Post" and "The New York Times." He stoked the debate with a term that sparked anger on the left. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) TRUMP: And I say really, we're not supposed to use that word. You know what I am? I'm a nationalist, OK? (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: I'm a nationalist. JIM ACOSTA, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: I don't think it's a stretch for a lot of Americans out there to wonder whether or not the president is secretly considering himself a white nationalist. LEMON: Nationalist. Use that word. We are going to talk about that word tonight. It is a favorite of the alt-right and is loaded with nativist and racial undertones. TUCKER CARLSON, CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL COMMENTATOR, FOX NEWS: Hitler was a nationalist. Of course so were Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln and every other leader of every other nation state throughout history until about 20 minutes ago, but whatever. (END VIDEOTAPE) KURTZ: Huge difference between nationalists and white nationalists. Now, the press was right to call Trump on his unproven charges but round up helped him turn the caravan into a major controversy by taking the president's bait. Ahead on "Media Buzz," why did NBC move so quickly to dump Megyn Kelly after an on-air blunder? But first, Anthony Scaramucci says Trump supporters will never abandon him, even if they think he's lying. "The Mooch" is here live. HOWARD KURTZ, MEDIA BUZZ, ANCHOR: Some presidential confidants praise him no matter what, but our next guest has sometimes been critical of the president including on this program. Joining us from Los Angeles is Anthony Scaramucci. The former White House communications director and author of the new book, Trump: The Blue-Collar President. Now, you've told me that you don't like President Trump's constant criticism to the press, you've told him as well, what do you make of liberal critics in the media, pundits, some anchors who say that Donald Trump's hot rhetoric and enemy of the American people brought sides against the press, have helped foster a climate that helped produce the pipe bomb attacks. ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI, FORMER WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: OK, I think that's obviously unfair. I mean, you can't link a madman or people who have mental illness, and say well, it's because of the presidency. So you can't hold him accountable for those people. But if you are asking me could the president deescalate a little bit and have his approval ratings go up, and be seen a little bit differently, Howie, I absolutely believe that. I think he has got a 5- to 7-point head wind from some of the rhetoric. And so, he may say well, that's what got me to the presidency. But I think now is a moment for him where he could go to another level. And there is no reason he couldn't be in the mid-50s getting with what I see going on in the economy... KURTZ: Right. SCARAMUCCI: And how happy people are with, you know, jobs and wage growth et cetera. So you can't hold him accountable for those people. That's ridiculous. KURTZ: Some people in the press -- some people in the press also tying it to the horrible synagogue attack in Pittsburgh yesterday that killed 11 people. So if you think he can help himself politically by toning down the bellicosity and just for example, you know, he never made any public mention that CNN and Barack Obama, and the Clintons and so forth were targets for these pipe bombs, why doesn't he do that, because he believes it helps him politically not to? SCARAMUCCI: Well, you know, I don't even think he's that contemplated with that. I think he's biologically designed where when people are smack talking against him, he'll smack talk back two, three or four times. And so, he doesn't like the fact that he has been treated unfairly. The Harvard study says 92 percent of the press treats him negatively. And so when they are coming at him, he'll come at them four or five times. But if he slowed it down one notch, and just dialed in some level of you know a smoother edge if you will, it's not saying he doesn't have to be adversarial. This whole whirl-like thing is just hurting him. So, to me, calling President Obama, as an example, about a sign of graciousness, that would help him with that 5 to 7 percent of the people that really like him, but they are a little bit concerned about the sharpness of the tone and they're concerned about the angry rhetoric. KURTZ: Let me ask you about the president's veracity, a major topic of the media. Let me just briefly play a clip from MSNBC's daytime news anchor Stephanie Ruhle. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) Stephanie Ruhle, MSNBC ANCHOR: Every day the president of the United States lies. And every day the media fact-checks him. And if we would like that to stop, he should stop lying. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: So that's the daily drum beat, Trump lies, he exaggerates, he creates his own facts. And you've said sure he lies, you've told him not to lie, but journalists and other opponents make a mistake in thinking this is the way to beat him on that question. Explain. SCARAMUCCI: Yeah, well, I mean, number one, I think you know it's a little bit of puffery. It's all about that exaggeration. It's like what my grandfather would say, why let truth get in the way of a very good story. The president has an entertainment streak to his personality, particularly at these rallies. And so, he does play to the crowd. And I think that these hall monitors, and the media that are quote, unquote, fact- checking him and have all of these anger are making a very big mistake. It's OK to say hey, he said this, but here's the facts. But to get all upset like that, I think it's not helping them. KURTZ: Right. SCARAMUCCI: If anything, it has galvanized the president's base. KURTZ: Well, sometimes... SCARAMUCCI: They don't like when I say -- don't cut me off. KURTZ: I'm not going to cut you off, I will give you a chance to answer. And sometimes, I think he just gets things wrong. In other times, perhaps he doesn't want to know what the reality is, but think about what you are saying. You are his friend, his former aide, you wrote a book praising him as a blue-collar president, so you're clearly routing for him. And you're acknowledging a pretty steady stream of lies by the president of the United States, you said he can lie -- he can tell 10,000 lies as far as you are concerned. And yet, you're saying it doesn't matter. So are you giving him a giant pass? SCARAMUCCI: Well, I don't think so. I didn't say it didn't matter. I think it's fine for the media to hold him accountable. I'm saying something differently. I'm saying... KURTZ: You're saying his supporters don't care. You're saying his supporters do not care. SCARAMUCCI: I'm saying that his supporters have felt a vacuum. I write in my book, Howie, that the middle class and lower middle class for whatever reason have never felt an advocate in the Oval Office at least for 30 or 40 years. Some of my Democratic friends will be mad at me for saying that. But just think about what happened, he hijacked the base of the Democratic Party and moved it over to the ledger of the Republicans. And so, how did he do that? He did that because these people want jobs, they want higher wages, and they want better things for their children. And so, the Democrats focused on a lot of the social issues and the appropriateness of being politically correct, and some of the environmental issues, and I'm not even taking issue with any of that. But I'm just explaining that it left a wide-open berth for somebody like President Trump to step in there. So he may say some mistruths, he may say some things that you don't like. But guess what, those people are galvanized around him, they like him, and he's going to win re-elections. You would be so much better off as a Democrat, if you say wow, you know, he did steal our people. Let's change our product line and speak to those people about policies that can work for them rather than fact-checking the president of the United States. KURTZ: You told CNN -- you told CNN that Trump is not a nationalist. But then, he says he is -- that creates some controversy, because he wants you, the network, the media, to be upset about it. So, is some of what he does in this realm simply aimed at sticking it to the press or generating a big press reaction, which then amplifies his message? SCARAMUCCI: So the fact that people don't understand what you just said is an absolute fact. I find it ironic. It's almost laughable. So he's clearly not a nationalist. He can go out tomorrow night, and speak somewhere, you know, pick a location on a campaign trail, call himself a nationalist. But the Orwellian definition, the Barbara Tuchman definition, the 200 years of understanding the spectrum and the rise of nationalism, he's a peace keeper. He's not a nationalist. And so, he can keep saying it. And if he wants, it will rile up the media. The media will focus on that. And then again, they're missing the point on the deliverables to blue-collar people, blue-collar families and the middle class. KURTZ: Last question because I have got half a minute left. In your book... SCARAMUCCI: It's a sleight of hand, Howie. KURTZ: Sorry to break in. In your book, on your 11 days as communications director, you now say, you told Meet The Press that John Kelly, chief of staff, has hissy fits and he's hurting the president. Given that Kelly was the guy who kind of helped usher you out of the White House, is this a little personal on your part? SCARAMUCCI: Yeah. I mean, listen, if you want to think it's personal, that's fine. I have been fired before. John wasn't the first person to fire me. I've also had to fire people. So it's not personal. I am just being observational of what I see going on. And if you think I'm the only person that is a current or former White House staff member that thinks that way, that's fine, too. But I know that's not the case. But that's another reason why I couldn't really survive in Washington. Because, you know, I like speaking very plainly, telling people the truth. So if you think it's personal, I will let people that are viewing your show evaluate that. But for me, it really wasn't personal. I don't like the way I was fired. I think it's ridiculous to fire a guy like me like that, given the amount of money I raised, the media advocacy, and support of the president. You didn't have to do it that way. KURTZ: Got it. SCARAMUCCI: I think it's ridiculous. That's a poor reflection on him. KURTZ: I like people who speak plainly. That's why I like having you on. Good luck with the book, Anthony Scaramucci. Thanks for joining us. SCARAMUCCI: Thanks, Howie. KURTZ: After the break, the Saudis changed their story on the Khashoggi murder again. Guess what, it was premeditated. How do you cover such mendacious lies? And later, why Megyn Kelly's apology for her blackface comments isn't enough for NBC. KURTZ: This week's pipe bomb attacks follow a media uproar over the gruesome murder of Jamal Khashoggi. And after weeks of shifting cover stories, Saudi Arabia's public prosecutor now says yes, evidence suggests the killing of the Washington Post contributor was premeditated. And President Trump stands as he bombs as well. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It was carried out poorly and the cover-up was one of the worst in the history of cover-ups. It's very simple, bad deal should have never been thought of. Somebody really messed up. And they have the worst cover-up ever. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Joining us is Fox News correspondent, Gillian Turner. And Gillian, when the cover of the Khashoggi murder was at its peak, some people, especially on the right, said the media were overplaying this because it was a columnist, one of their own. Maybe it's a way to criticize the president. Now that CNN is the pipe bomb target, you are not hearing that as much, perhaps because the targets also included Obama, the Clintons, Biden, Eric Holder, and so forth. GILLIAN TURNER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think what the media was reacting to was the fact that the president did not come straight out and blamed, condemned the Saudis and the royal family. The media is very prickly about this. It's not just when it comes to Saudi Arabia. It's not just when it comes to President Trump when they feel he's hedging, he's not being forceful enough in condemning America's enemies. They get mad. And that's what, you know, we saw that with Kim Jong-un, with Vladimir Putin, now, it's the crown prince. KURTZ: Well, should the media is entirely prickly because the Saudis were telling a ludicrous story. I mean, last week on this program, we had Bret Baier with the foreign minister who was peddling the fistfight story. It was just a fistfight that interrupted inside a consulate in Turkey. Now, we have the president coming around. Initially, he seemed inclined to sort of defer to the Saudi explanations. Now, he says it is the worst cover-up ever. So were the media right to keep pushing on this? TURNER: I think so. You know, he came - the president came out on the right side, eventually. I guess he was waiting for whatever his own reasons were. It was very well said, it was the worst cover-up job in the history of maybe all time. So it is obvious to everybody. KURTZ: Right. Initially, they said he went out alive. TURNER: Right. KURTZ: Then it was a fistfight. And then, finally now, premeditated, which was obvious all along. TURNER: And you know, as a member of the media and as a member of the American public, what the Saudis were peddling here was offensive for the first two weeks. KURTZ: Right. Now, the crown prince said it was a heinous crime and so forth. How do reporters cover a regime, that in this case at least, blatantly lied again and again. It's now evident. This is not an opinion. It's fact. TURNER: It is fact. I will say though that it's also something that foreign governments do. They lie to the United States. It's not something new. KURTZ: Maybe this was such a high profile case, or that the media made it such a high profile case with Khashoggi. TURNER: And the media doesn't have the make the same considerations that the government does, right? I mean, they have a different rule. They don't necessarily have to worry about American national security interests the way that President Trump does. KURTZ: Well, balancing act with trade and military with the Saudis. TURNER: Exactly. KURTZ: They can just sort of be morally outraged, especially if a journalist happens to be involved. Now, we are seeing some of the same finger pointing going on with the yesterday's mass shooting in a synagogue in Pittsburgh. I mentioned earlier some headlines suggesting President Trump and his tone is perhaps to blame. It brings this up, which is what's your reaction as a reporter when people said nobody cared about this Khashoggi killing except for journalists and how come you journalists didn't care about the deaths in Benghazi, which I take exception to? TURNER: I do, too. I got a lot of comments when I was reporting on the Khashoggi murder from folks in social media saying exactly that, saying how can you care about one person from Saudi Arabia when we have a caravan careening towards the U.S. border, when we had Americans murdered in Benghazi. It's spurious line of reasoning. KURTZ: Everybody cared of the fact four American lives were lost in Benghazi. Then it became a two-year investigation with a lot of political overtone. And so... TURNER: That was part of the -- I don't know where the line of thinking originated, I don't know if it was a government sort of line that's being pushed or whether people came up with that on their own. You know, this is just one person. They are not an American, he has ties to Hezbollah. KURTZ: That's a bad guy anyway, they claim, yeah. TURNER: You know, I don't know where it came from, but it was completely ineffective. KURTZ: I think the one that we can conclude is that in the current climate even murder, even violence can and is being politicized. And that's sad to me at least. Gillian Turner, great to see you. TURNER: Thanks. KURTZ: I know you got a busy day today. Still to come, NBC spent $69 million to lure Megyn Kelly from Fox. Why is the brass now so quick to dump her? KURTZ: Megyn Kelly was talking about Halloween of all things on her NBC morning show when she made a big blunder. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MEGYN KELLY, NBC HOST: Because you do get in trouble if you are a white person who puts in blackface Halloween or a black person who puts on whiteface for Halloween, like when I was a kid, that was OK, as long as you're dressing as a character. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: The former Fox News host also apologized to her colleagues in a letter. But that didn't stop the criticism within NBC or the coverage on the network. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AL ROKER, TODAY CO-ANCHOR: Well, the fact is, while she apologized to the staff, she owes a bigger apology to folks of color around the country, because this is a history, going back to the 1830s. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Her comments came during a panel discussion on her program this morning, quickly sparking a backlash over remarks many viewed as racially tone deaf. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KELLY: I'm Megyn Kelly and I want to begin with two words, I'm sorry. I learned that given the history of blackface being used in awful ways by racists in this country, it is not OK for that to be part of any costume, Halloween or otherwise. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: NBC has now confirmed reports by me and other journalists that it's ending her role anchoring the third hour of the Today Show. Joining me now from New York, Marisa Guthrie, television editor for the Hollywood Reporter. So how big a mistake were these blackface comments considering that Megyn Kelly made a full apology on the air? MARISA GUTHRIE, HOLLYWOOD REPORTER TV EDITOR: Well, they were the last nail on the coffin. She had been talking to Andy Lack, the NBC news chairman, before she made the comments about winding down her 9:00 a.m. show. It wasn't necessarily working. She had lost nearly a half million viewers compared to the show she replaced, which was a lot cheaper to put on. And so, she had angered NBC news management by aggressively reporting on Matt Lauer by reporting on the accusations against Tom Brokaw, and then, by suggesting that NBC should hire an outside investigator for the Ronan Farrow, Harvey Weinstein reporting. All of these things that made NBC news management very angry, so the blackface... KURTZ: Well, hold on. So she made them angry by being aggressive and reporting when it came to NBC people. Look, there was a lot of resentment against Megyn and NBC. She also felt that she wasn't being supported. There were a lot of leaks that seem to come from NBC against her... GUTHRIE: Yes. KURTZ: In places like New York Post... GUTHRIE: Yes. KURTZ: So, when you have say final nail in the coffin, it almost sounds like NBC seized upon this admitted mistake as a way to orchestrate her rapid exit. GUTHRIE: Look, I think that if she had not done all of those other proceeding things, and her ratings were great, and management liked her, they would have supported her. But they signaled pretty right away with that report on NBC Nightly News the night -- the day she made the comments, that was nearly 5 minutes, the report, which was an eternity for a 22- minute broadcast. So they signaled right away that the gloves were off, that they were not supporting her, that she had no support internally. KURTZ: Right, a long report. I give NBC for covering it, but the way in which it was covered suggested that there was maybe a bit of a grudge. And then, there were these leak reports that Andy Lack, as you say, the NBC News chairman, had privately condemned the reports, the staff members. So it seemed like you know this all happened so quickly... GUTHRIE: Yes. KURTZ: That Megyn Kelly had almost no chance to fight back. And you know, I also give her credit for the apology. I mean, it wasn't like she went out and said everybody should go on blackface. She just put it, it was a serious mistake. But as you say, was the resentment also tied to the fact she was making so much money, the $69 million contract, and that she came from Fox? GUTHRIE: I think that she -- her persona, and her on-air style, a prosecutorial interviewer, somebody who challenge orthodoxies, like she brought to NBC. That's who she was when they hired her. KURTZ: Right. That was NBC was getting. GUTHRIE: Exactly, exactly. And this has been a, you know, narrative in all of this coverage that she may have convinced herself that she could do this morning thing. She may have convinced NBC executives, but they should - - they should have used a little more introspective and knew what they were getting. And so, you put her in that and the demographics of morning TV and daytime TV have changed. So you know her style worked very well at Fox News. You know, she was a tough interviewer. She was a really strong interviewer. And so that didn't fit with daytime TV. She was bringing all that to the 9:00 a.m. hour of Today. KURTZ: Right. GUTHRIE: And it was causing all sorts of problems. KURTZ: Well, I understand the debate. It wasn't a great fit in all of that. But at the same time, it seems the way -- the way in which she was pushed out over this, a way that made her seem guilty despite the apology was just brutal -- was just brutal. GUTHRIE: But they let her go on and apologize. KURTZ: Right. And that was her last day. GUTHRIE: Yes. KURTZ: And then, suddenly, she's gone. All right. We got to go. Marisa Guthrie, thanks very much for sharing your insights. GUTHRIE: No problem. KURTZ: And that's it for this edition of Media Buzz. I'm Howard Kurtz. Hey, check out my Podcast, Media Buzz Meter. We kick around today's five most important or interesting stories. You can subscribe at Apple iTunes, Google Play, FoxNewsPodcast.com. Let's continue the conversation on Twitter @howardkurtz or to our Facebook page. I write columns every day. We post a lot of original contents. We like to have a dialogue going especially in a week like this. There has been so much tragedy and so much criticism over the media's behavior. Back here next Sunday, you know the time, 11 Eastern. See you then with the latest buzz. Load-Date: October 29, 2018 End of Document Mail Bomb Suspect Arrested; The Media's Shameful Blame Game; Last Developments On Migrant Caravan Crisis; Reports Say That President Trump Is Planning To Make An Executive Order That Would Halt Asylum Seekers And Illegal Migrants From Entering The U.S. Southern Border; Actor Robert de Niro Was One Among The List Of People Who Were Targeted By The Bomb Sender But Critics Say That de Niro Was Too Harsh On President Trump; Senator Lindsey Graham Says He's Optimistic That Senator Dean Heller Will Win Nevada In The Coming Midterms Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 26, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7359 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sebastian Gorka, Tammy Bruce, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett Guests: Bernard Kerik, Dean Heller, Lindsey Graham Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Welcome to HANNITY. And tonight, a suspect believed to be responsible for this week's mail bomb scare has now been arrested. In moments, we're going to tell you what we know about this deranged individual. Plus, we are now on day four of what is the media's shameful attempt to connect President Trump, FOX News, talk radio, even me, to those horrible actions of a mad man. And coming up, we're going to take on the left wings smear merchants. We'll call out their hypocrisy and respond to all of this outright slander. Now, once again, the left is trying to score cheap political points in the victory by vilifying all Trump supporters. It's beyond disgusting. And also tonight, we have a very important update on the migrant caravan and we are only 11 days away until the all important midterm elections. So, stay tuned, buckle up, it is time for our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. So, tonight, President Trump announced that the person allegedly responsible for the mail bomb scare is now thankfully in custody. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I am pleased to inform you that law enforcement has apprehended the suspect and taken him into custody. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) It's an incredible job by law enforcement. We have carried out a far- reaching federal, state, and local investigation to find the person or persons responsible for these events. These terrorizing acts are despicable and have no place in our country. No place. I have instructed authorities to spare no resource or expense in finding those responsible and bringing them to swift and certain justice. We must never allow political violence to take root in America. We cannot let it happen. I'm committed to doing everything in my power as president to stop it, and to stop it now. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Amen. And tonight, federal officials, they are continuing their important investigation, but thanks to their hard work, their dedication, their determination, here's what we know about the suspect. His name: Cesar Sayoc. Now, he's a middle aged Florida resident with an extremely long criminal track record, including multiple counts of theft, drug charges, illicit steroid use and much more. He's even charged with making a bomb threat back in 2002 and throughout his life, Sayoc has accumulated dozens of felony and misdemeanor charges, and he reportedly filed for bankruptcy in 2012 when he lived with his mother. Now, his van was covered with dozens of bizarre bumper stickers, including many that were derogatory, some threatening to Democrats. His multiple social media accounts were equally odd, very disturbing. As you can see, this is the picture of an irrational man who is deeply, deeply troubled. Like the president said, we want anybody, anybody responsible for this heinous bomb scare to be held responsible to the fullest extent of the law. If Sayoc is found guilty, he should go to prison for an extremely long period of time. These actions are deplorable and inexcusable. There is no room for political violence in this country. We solve our problems, like in 11 days, at the ballot box. And as I have said many times, this is a very serious story but over the course of this week, what we have seen, what we have witnessed, in the mainstream media and the left, has been downright disgraceful. Before ever even knowing who was responsible for this heinous act, the media started playing the blame game, rushing to judgment as usual. They put facts last. They rushed to judgment and they did anything and everything possible to link President Trump and anyone who supports him to this act of terrorism. Even the graphics on fake news CNN blaming Trump, calling the would-be bomb victim, quote, Trump's targets. Trump's targets, believe it or not, the vitriol was far worse on air. Now, watch from just the past 24 hours, it should make your heart, well, sink. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, the list of targets was right out of Trump's relentless rhetorical playbook. The bomber's enemies were his enemies. He has said so again and again and again. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everybody should stop pretending that Trump really doesn't know what he's doing. That when he says these things, he knows exactly what he's trying to encourage. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump fails the country. He doesn't just fail Democrats. He feels Democrats and Republicans and all-Americans in between. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's refused to do in any way acknowledge what role his rhetoric may have played in cultivating the current political climate. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This president has an obligation to stop picking on reporters. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The president has created a culture of comfort for violent rhetoric and actual violence. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And he spends most of his time at his rallies throwing verbal bombs at all of the people that received these bombs in the mail. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And one fake news CNN political analyst even blaming yours truly for the bomb scare, especially as it relates to Robert de Niro. This is a disgrace. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just want to go back to that because everybody said, why Robert de Niro? He hasn't criticized the president since the Tony Awards in June. But you found that what Sean Hannity says has a direct link. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It may have. We don't know who it is. We don't know what the motive. But what was fascinating is, you see a direct pattern between the president's attacks on Twitter and stage, being echoed and amplified by FOX News and other folks in the conservative agencia (ph). But de Niro is not like the others, right? Why Robert de Niro? Well, one of the things I found rose, October 15th, Sean Hannity was doing a whole segment blasting de Niro for things he said on the Alec Baldwin show of all things, in which he said that Trump allies will regret it because they made a deal with the devil. So, that all of a sudden becomes Trump -- Robert de Niro's calling the president a devil and us devil worshipers in effect, you know? It's playing the victim card, but it was top of mind 10 days ago. And it's usually going to be seen. What is that? When we find out who this is. HANNITY: Now, John Avlon is both lying and he's ignorant. And, frankly, recklessly irresponsible. Now, he's the walking embodiment of why so many Americans just don't trust the media, why they chant "CNN sucks." Maybe you should watch a full episode of "Hannity" or listen to my radio show and he would actually see how I have been repeatedly calling on political vilification in this country to stop, especially the confrontations. How I deplore, disavow all incivility and acts of violence from the left and the right. By the way, if Avlon ever watch my show, listen to my radio show, he would know how much I value law and order and the safety of everyone, including people I disagree with passionately. For example, when President Obama's security was threatened in 2014, I spoke out over and over and over again how we need to protect our president, even though I had strong disagreements with him. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We have three incidents. We have the fence jumper, made it much further into the White House, even past the stairs going into the residence, which is scary. We have the second incident in 2011, six shots fired at the White House, took them four days to determine they thought it had nothing related to do with the White House, which I disagree with. And then a guy with w a gun got on an elevator with the president of the United States. ISIS, our enemies, are watching this. We got to protect our president. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Every elected official, every cabinet member, and every member of Congress, the Senate, deserves security. Everyone deserves a safety. And, by the way, my heart goes out to anyone who has ever been threatened or harmed because you know what? I know firsthand how it feels. I have been through more, frankly, I am willing to make public, including white powder mailed to me, telling me it's anthrax. I had an assistant of mine scared to death, put in isolation for hours as a result of one incident. I had numerous other real threats in my career to both myself and my family. Lunatics, they have no political boundaries. And to suggest that honest, vigorous, hard-hitting debate and criticism is somehow the motivating force behind one fringe violent individual is intellectually lazy, John Avlon, and frankly, nothing but a cheap attempt to capitalize off a series incident. You should be ashamed of yourself. Now, remember, I never blamed Bernie Sanders because one of his loyal supporters shot Republican lawmakers, nearly killed Steve Scalise on a baseball field last year. As a matter of fact, I said the opposite. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I'm not blaming Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders supporters -- this was one nut. Remember that Bernie Sanders supporter, the one that targeted Republicans at baseball practice, leaving Congressman Steve Scalise fighting for his life? Well, was the media blaming Democrats for that? No. And, by the way, they shouldn't have. I don't blame Bernie either. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I don't blame Bernie either. It would be irresponsible to tie him to what one nut supporter does. I have said many times. there are deranged people on both sides of the aisle, and they, and they alone, are responsible for their evil actions. And, by the way, this brings us to our next point, the left's double standard. While the mainstream media condemns what they see as destructive rhetoric from only the right, they may want to reflect inward first. Per usual, and just the past 24 hours alone, the anti-Trump vitriol from the mainstream media, destroy Trump media, has been down right despicable. And we've got the tape. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D), NEW YORK: When you keep stirring that pot, and you have leaders, the president of United States, people listen to him. He is no longer on the talk show. He's the president of the United States. This is whipping up people and you will see people respond. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was elected to be president of the United States, not a mental patient. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is just escalating. And it's only going to get worse if he doesn't change his tone. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Maybe they should be lecturing Maxine Waters and company, you know, create a crowd, follow them to grocery stores, department stores, gas stations, they are not wanted anywhere, anymore. What you just saw is nothing new, because the left's hatred of all things Trump has been boiling over since the day he and Melania came down the escalator. Here is just a small sampling of the insanity. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. You tell them they are not welcome. HILLARY CLINTON (D), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. ERIC HOLDER, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL: Michelle always says that, you know, when they go low, we go high. No, no. When they go low, we kick them. ROBERT DE NIRO, ACTOR: How dare he say the things he does. Of course I want to punch him in the face. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I want to send the military to the White House to get him. (LAUGHTER) MADONNA, SINGER: Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When was the last time an actor assassinated a president? It's been a while. And maybe it's time. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tyrants, number one, want to denigrate the people that go about the fourth estate, the journalists who go out and try to determine what the truth is. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to read the definition of treason. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When did we see almost a shadow government come out and say, we cannot side with the government? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are oddly influential with the guy who wants to kill us. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is a sign that has been hung up in the White House or outside the White House saying, if you're not white, you're not especially welcome. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So, you know what? Yes, with rhetoric like that, it is kind of odd they are now blaming Donald Trump and his allies for the actions of a lunatic, especially since multiple deranged far left individuals have been -- we've been watching now for weeks, harassing, attacking, threatening, Republicans all over the country, just in recent weeks. We have been warning you, Rand Paul has been warning you, something horrible is going to happen. It doesn't matter if it's left or right. But the left's silence when it's their side has been deafening and worse. And some elected officials actually sent out marching orders to harass, intimidate cabinet officials, elected officials, and candidates. White powder mailed to the president, President Trump, Secretary of Defense Mattis, FBI Director Wray, CIA Director Haspel, that's just three weeks ago. The president's son who was also targeted with a suspicious package, Don Jr.'s ex-wife hospitalized because of that package. A truck with a Trump bumper sticker, that was set on fire. You have two Republican candidates in Minnesota were punched. One, a woman, another, a man, with severe injuries, he's cold cocked from beyond, six weeks, bad concussion. Republican campaign manager in Nevada that he was assaulted. There were dozens more incidents of vandalism, assault, harassment, including top Republicans stalked in airports, run out of restaurants repeatedly. We've shown you this videotape. Now, while we constantly condemn acts of violence on both sides of the aisle, when something happens to a conservative, Democrats have been missing in action, noticeably silent. We're going to have a lot more on this throughout the show. But first, more big news in the looming crisis at our southern border tonight. The migrant caravan continues to move north, even as we speak. Defense Secretary Mattis just approved a request to send even more troops to the border. Now at least 800 soldiers have officially being dispatched to bolster to efforts of our border patrol agents. President Trump recently told the migrants and the caravan, said it again tonight, turn back. And now, he is reportedly mulling an executive order to bar entry of all migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border, which he has the authority to do. We're gong to keep you posted as this situation continues to unfold. But, first, we get back to the top story. Joining us now is FOX News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka and former NYC Police Commissioner Bernie Kerik. Welcome, both of you. Congrats on your book, "Why We Fight," a bestseller, Dr. Gorka. Bernie, from day one, you said they catch and you thought between 48 and 72 hours, you were dead on the mark. You even told me last night, your gut was telling you based on what you are witnessing, that it was imminent. BERNARD KERIK, FORMER NEW YORK CITY POLICE COMMISSIONER: Right. Look, there was an enormous amount of evidence. The packaging, the devices that should have a trigger mechanism to explode upon opening, that didn't work. So, when you take this, you take the technology that we have today and the unbelievable work and ability of the Joint Terrorist Task Force, the FBI, the New York City PD, the other federal agencies and New York state police, you can't beat it. You can't beat it. They did a phenomenal, tremendous job. HANNITY: You know, I want to -- how did you -- you know, the thing is, we are talking about 13 bombs. So, the big question to me, I will ask you this, and we will talk about the politics with Dr. Gorka, 13 times, these bombs are designed, the minute you open it, they are supposed to explode. Now, we are told by FBI Director Wray that they had powder and shrapnel and the glass and other shrapnel inside these bombs, using PVC pipe, simply made, can even see this garbage on the Internet, sadly. KERIK: Right. HANNITY: How is it none of them exploded? Just we're lucky? He didn't know what he was doing? Or may be designed not to explode? KERIK: Sean, did you see the guy? Did you see his van? I mean, come on, I don't think this was an EOD expert. This is somebody that says something in a magazine or wanted to create something that looks heinous, if you will. The bottom line is, I know EOD guys that work for me and look at this stuff, and they burst out into laughter and said it's never going to happen. The bottom line is, it was in the device itself. There may be material that could be explosive, which is what the FBI director may be talking about. And, keep in mind, Sean, for charging instruments in DOJ, by a U.S. attorney, they want to make sure that the elements are there for a crime for them to charge this guy. So, it's going to be a while before they make a determination exactly what they consisted of, their ability to detonate. But we are lucky, one, the guy he was a dud and he had a bunch of duds that he sent out to the country. HANNITY: Oh, thank God because nobody -- thankfully, nobody got hurt. Gorka, in the lead up to this, I have been saying it, Rand Paul said it, we saw in the Kavanaugh hearings, things are getting hot in the halls of Congress. I suggested we may have to clear the halls of the congress, not the Republican, it was getting too hot. Then we had Pam Bondi, she's run out of a movie theater. Secretary Nielsen, ran out of a restaurant, Sarah Sanders and her kids run out of a restaurant. Then, it gets worse, and it continues. Ted Cruz and his wife, then it's Mitch McConnell in the airport, Mitch McConnell last weekend, boulders sent through Kevin McCarthy's office. The left's silence here was deafening. Then something happens and they said, well, we think this guy might be a Trump supporter, now we will speak out. It is his hypocrisy -- it doesn't matter where that I violence comes from. We settle differences like we can in 11 days in the ballot box. DR. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: That list that you showed in your monologue is shocking, even for somebody like myself who isn't hypnotized by the fake news industrial complex. The list of incidents should be shocking to all Americans. It tells you one thing, Sean. Violence against those you politically disagree with is okay for one party in America, and one party alone, and it's the Democrats. There is no equivalent of Antifa on the right. And I'd just like to see a fraction of the coverage devoted to what the commissioner calls the duds that this dud shipped out by the mail. I'd like to see a fraction of that coverage for the president's former daughter-in-law, who was sent to hospital because of that white powder device that was sent to her -- HANNITY: Dr. Gorka, one other thing, though. The media is -- they have been waging war to delegitimize this president before he got elected. GORKA: Since the beginning. HANNITY: And the president, if he says, fake news, they are fake news, you know what? He's not advocating violence against news people. That is their big claim to fame, it's sad that they are so sanctimonious and narcissistic that they think that they're the most important people and can't be called out for their bias. But the bias itself is so evident every day. GORKA: Fake news is exactly what we have to call these outlets, when you have these outlets talking about the Russia collusion delusion for two years, when you talk to you -- when you hear them talking about the racism of the president, a man who in one of his first actions, pardoned an African-American heavyweight boxer, who was prosecuted for racial reasons. He pardoned a black grandmother who was put in prison for being a drug dealer. They peddled fake news and, Sean, I'm going to use that phrase until they act like journalists and I can guarantee you, so will the president. HANNITY: All right. Last word, Bernie Kerik. KERIK: You know, I just -- one thing I want to touch on. You know, fake news, CNN, the mainstream media, every single day, they delegitimize the president's complains and his frustration and his anger by their own coverage. So, it has to change. HANNITY: You walked off the set, didn't you, of CNN recently? KERIK: I did. Two nights ago, I walked off. HANNITY: Why? KERIK: Well, you know what? I went on to talk about the events, talk about the bombs, to give the American public some insight, and they let John Brennan on the air for 10 minutes rant about the president. HANNITY: Yes, unbelievable. This should be a moment we all come together, and it should be one thing we all agree on. But -- all right. Thank you, both. When we come back, busy breaking news night. A live update on the mail bomb suspect. Also, more on the abusively biased media blaming the president and conservatives and talk radio and Fox News for this cowardly, dastardly deed. Joe Concha, Tammy Bruce are next as we continue. (NEWSBREAK) HANNITY: All right. So, in the midst of the mail bomb scare, the media is proving just how abusively biased they really are. Now, for days, they have been blaming, oh, talk radio, Fox, and, of course, the usual go to, President Trump. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: His natural state of being is to pick the political fight and not to worry about the greater consequences of things. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You think that he is knows what he is doing in rhetoric, encouraging people to take action, like the person who sent the bomb. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everybody who is apparently in Trump's scope, his focus, are in now danger, critical danger, their lives threatened. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: These people ever watch their own shows and the vitriolic language they use every day? Now, in a truly surreal moment, fake news CNN's John King went on the air yesterday, he was actually saying with his words, no one is blaming President Trump, even as the lower third banner on the screen was blaming President Trump. You can't make this up. It's true. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN KING, CNN ANCHOR: No one is blaming the president. Is anyone blaming the president? The president wants to make this about him. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh, excuse me. Joining us now, FOX News contributor Tammy Bruce and from "The Hill," media reporter Joe Concha. Tammy, I see you laughing and shaking your head. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Right. HANNITY: I don't think these people even watch their own shows. BRUCE: Yes, look, yes, it's remarkable to watch this unfold. Look, while these are all very distinctively different dynamics, this horrible situation with a man arrested in Florida, right, a violent national -- attempted violent crimes, sexual assault in the Judge Kavanaugh case, in the caravan, the plight of people around the world looking for a better life, matched with our national security, a need for a strong border. What the media has done in every single one of these, and this, of course, is attached to the American left, and some liberals, certainly the Democrat Party, is to use these incredibly important issues against us, to twist them, not report them as they truly exist, and to use them to simply politically, every single thing they see is through the prism of this dynamic of trying to destroy one man because they simply can't stand the fact that they lost an election. Now, for the American people, as we come up to the midterms, and this is why it's gotten more absurd by the moment, is to not be duped when they hear these things. And this is the problem for regular liberals, the regular base, when there is something perhaps that the media needs to address with the federal national government, perhaps the president, no one will take them seriously because they have beclowned themselves in addition to harming everyone across the board, all of these issues are -- you know, they transcend politics. They are nonpartisan. And yet, this is with the media has done, destroying their own industry while at the same time harming every American who cares about violent crime. These are criminals. This guy arrested for the mail bombs, he's a career criminal. They will always find an excuse, as was the man who did the GOP shooting at the baseball diamond. He had a history of domestic violence, assaulting his daughter, his foster daughter. These are people who will find an excuse to exact their violence, has really ultimately nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with violent individuals who, in the midst of 350 million people in this country, it is remarkable that so few people in fact act in this matter as they view it through a political prism. We should be proud of this country, proud of every single American. And remember that. HANNITY: You know, Joe unfortunately, your job, you get paid to watch a lot of this garbage. I wouldn't want your job to be very blunt. So, you got this idiot on CNN suggesting, well, I think I figured out why is Robert de Niro on the list because on this day Sean Hannity was critical. I was critical of De Niro for saying he wants to punch the president of the United States in the face and calling him a punk, a dog, a mat and words that I can't say on TV. He should've joined me in that criticism. I never told that he would go after De Niro nor would I four weeks on this program, Joe. Weeks I've been saying people need to calm down. JOE CONCHA, REPORTER AND COLUMNIST, THE HILL: De Niro made the f-Donald Trump comment on CBS for the Tony's, or he made other comments to Alec Baldwin on ABC. In other words, De Niro's comments were everywhere. Just because you talked about it and criticize him. So, to connect that dot and say that somehow you are responsible for De Niro receiving one of those explosive devices that is obviously reckless. And we keep having pundits on cable news playing psychologist and medical experts from afar, psychoanalyzing people like the president when Joe Scarborough said he had early onset dementia. And you're not a doctor, you're not a psychologist so how do you know these things? But let me get back to that chyron for a second, Sean, if don't mind. You know, with John King and the chyron is obviously the headline that you see in your screen on the news. One of them was Trump has no plans to bear any personal responsibility for inciting serial bomber. That assumes a lot, doesn't it? And we've seen this movie before and what's frustrating for the American people at home that don't trust the media, and many of them don't is that our media doesn't learn from the mistakes. Two thousand eleven, Gabby Giffords she is that horrible shooting in Arizona. Sarah Palin is blamed because she put out flyers that were targeting that district politically. In other words, take it back. The accusations always get a huge stage. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: People thought (Inaudible) do it. CONCHA: Yes, always get a huge stage and megaphone, the exoneration barely makes some people -- and later we found that Gerald Walker (Ph) had no political affiliations and was not incited by Palin but you didn't hear that part because that's after the fact. (CROSSTALK) BRUCE: Can I add one point? CONCHA: So, you think we've learned from that situation and we haven't he. Go ahead, Tammy. BRUCE: One element of this especially with before they even knew who was going to be arrested. We had no idea who is sending these bombs around. The media as we see whether it's the Capital Gazette or even the Boston bombers or this situation they know they've got a window no matter what the end result will be. They feel that they've window to where they can change and create the narrative. And of course, once again, they misunderstand what the American people want. They certainly are disconnected with who we are and how we view this. And that's abandonment of their job of the American people and of the importance of the delivery of real news so that the American people can feel, though, that we are able to come to decisions about it. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And calling them, Tammy, fake news is not a call to violence. BRUCE: No, it's not. HANNITY: Frankly, it is a-- (CROSSTALK) BRUCE: It's a statement of fact. HANNITY: -- get on truthful statements. BRUCE: Yes. HANNITY: And all these people, Joe, real quick, were silent when all of these Republican cabinet members and Republican officials will run at a restaurant by mobs, CNN even said you can't say that it's a mob. CONCHA: Yes. Look, you can't have it both ways and say President Trump rhetoric is triggering people to incite violence and then ignore Maxine Waters or Cory Booker or Eric Holder anybody who said get up on people's faces, run them out of restaurants tell them they're not welcome and kick them. You cannot have it both ways, Sean. BRUCE: Great point. HANNITY: Yes. They are intellectually lazy and bitterly partisan, but they claim they're fair and they're not. All right. Thank you both, tammy and Joe. When we come back, the migrant caravan continues to make its way north through Mexico headed towards our border. Reports that President Trump is contemplating now an executive order that will hold asylum-seekers migrants from ever entering the southern border. Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, they're next, and much more news straight ahead. HANNITY: Fox News is now reporting that President Trump is mulling an executive order that would halt asylum- seekers and migrants from entering our southern border. Let's get more reaction to today's big breaking news. Joining us the bestselling author of "The Russian Hoax" the number one New York Times bestseller, "The Elicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump" Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett. Also, Fox News investigative reporter contributor Sara Carter. She just got back from Guatemala during an exclusive investigation of the caravan. I'm also hearing with the military been set up on the border that their plans too are to create barriers of some kind as quickly as possible in case there is some type of rush on the border. Sara? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, that's exactly, Sean. So not only are they going to be concerned about a rush coming across the border. We saw that in Mexico. We've seen it in Guatemala. It's very dangerous. It is an enormous problem, but the military is also there to conduct logistics. Remember our resources even though they've grown over the recent years they are limited. Border patrol, ICE is overwhelmed. And with this mass of people coming over it's going to be a potentially big problem. Speaking to sources both in ICE, as well as border patrol over the last few days there's a reason why the president wants to initiate or find a way to kind of halt this asylum process. There's been a big problem with credible fear application where they've been prospecting people through over the last eight years and not even questioning some of the circumstances around their credible fear. HANNITY: Yes. CARTER: Pretty much anything from a political prisoner to a, my husband beats me up, to, I mean, I even heard a story where my neighbor was a witch. Everybody was processed in. So, there's a big problem with that. And the president really needs to take a look at. HANNITY: Nobody can vouch for anybody that is coming across the border. Even if we assume 99 percent are good people that want a better future. They still have to do it legally. What's interesting to me, Gregg Jarrett is the silence on the left. All Democrats it's been deafening on this. We know they want to eliminate ICE, they want open borders, they don't want the wall built, we know that part, and they want sanctuary cities and states, but their silence is deafening. Let's talk also, legally, though, the president has the authority on every aspect of this-- GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Yes. HANNITY: -- to do what he needs to do. JARRETT: It is not a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, because that bars the military from performing domestic law enforcement functions. That's not what this is. Look at the pictures. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Invasion. JARRETT: This is a threat of an invading-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Of potential invasion. JARRETT: -- force that already with force bashed through the Guatemalan fence and are marching to our border. You're right, Sean, to point out we don't know who these people are individually. They may have criminal records. Some of them may be armed. So, the president has the absolute legal authority to order troops down there and they are logistical support, as Sara pointed out, the president would be derelict in his duty as constitutional authority if he didn't do this. There the pictures right here going through the fence. There are other pictures that are even more graphic. This is what they are threatening to do to the United States. HANNITY: Well, I would imagine as part of this we have a few weeks now before they get up here, Sara. CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: It would seem to me not only do we don't want to have on one side of the border 14,000 people that would be willing to do what we just saw them do in Mexico which is knock down on a fence there and literally rush across. They would be then precipitating a confrontation. In the weeks leading up to what I've got to believe there's going to be some type of barrier installed that possible. CARTER: Well, I think what they are going to try to do is and I know they're doing is, they're working very closely now with the Mexican government, they're trying to see what can be done on Mexico's part to turn some of these people around. Remember, Sean, I was down there interviewing them. These people one, had been lied to, some of them. Others were part of this movement because they had been bust in by groups by leftist groups in Honduras and by people who said look, this is your chance. Walk straight, the Americans will let you in, there's no way that they can stop you. They've been trained on what to say to our asylum through to get to our asylum process. So something had to be done. This is the reason the Guatemalan government under President Morales, this is the reason why the Mexican government right now, why President Trump is being so tough on them and saying look, you need to turn these people around. We are not going to let them into our country this way. There is a process to coming into the country legally and we are not going to allow our border to run over. Period. HANNITY: I can -- I can -- and we know President Trump. I can pretty much guarantee you this is not a Barack Obama redlining the sand. CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: This caravan will be stopped if they -- if Mexico allows them to make it to our southern border. And I actually pray it doesn't happen. I don't want to see anybody hurt here. CARTER: No. HANNITY: Or nor do I want to see our country invaded by 14,000 people. None of whom have been vetted. CARTER: Sean-- HANNITY: And not of whom we can vouch for. (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: The alternative -- the alternative for the president is to shut down the border completely which would be economically devastating for Mexico and would get their attention to stop this caravan before it gets to our border. HANNITY: It seems like that's going to happen, right? JARRETT: The president has the authority to do it. Reagan did it. Bush did it. CARTER: He does-- JARRETT: It can be done again. CARTER: Absolutely. HANNITY: yes. CARTER: And we got to remember this, Sean. People are already being hurt. A lot of those people in the caravan and the children that are there, some of them are being trafficked. Some of these women have already been trampled, some of the children have already been trampled in these rushes, they've been putting the women and children in the front of these line. This is mostly men. So, people are already being hurt, nobody should be supporting this type of organized type of movement. This is a threat both to Central America, as well as the United States and to the people that are in these groups. HANNITY: And the great irony in all of this is we did have a wall it would not only create safety for America but it would be safer for the people that will end up on the other side wall. It would be far safer situation for everybody. All right, guys. Thank you. When we come back, only 11 days until the midterms. Senator Lindsey Graham campaigning with Senator Dean Heller in the great state of Nevada. That is a must win Senate seat for the Republicans. They will both join us straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. It's only 11 days until the most important midterm election in our lifetime. Republicans now continue to rally voters in key battleground states. For example, new polls show Republican Senator Dean Heller is continuing to gain momentum in Nevada. And Senator Heller joins us from Vegas along with, the man of the moment, Lindsey Graham who single- handedly, I could say save Judge Kavanaugh. Good to see you both. (CROSSTALK) SEN. DEAN HELLER, (R) NEVADA: Thank you. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, (R) SOUTH CAROLINA: Thank you. HANNITY: Dean Heller, Senator, I saw you out there. yes, he's OK, Lindsey, but you know, he's doing all right. (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: (Inaudible) if I face him myself. HANNITY: Listen, I like it better when you are on our side when you're on my side but you are great and I applaud - - I applaud you for your efforts. HELLER: Yes. HANNITY: I was out there I saw the crowd when I was in Vegas and I got to see you out there, senator, and I got to tell you there seen a lot of enthusiasm, but the reality is and I know you are up seven in one poll. Nevada is tight all the time. HELLER: Yes, yes. Sean, as you well know Nevada is a purple state, so all my races, this is my fifth state I race in. You know, they all seem to come down to a lot of couple of weeks that we're on the bubble with the wind to our backs and you know that's why it's working out now. And to have guys like Lindsay come out and campaign for me, I tell you Lindsey get a bigger crowd than Biden gets here in the state of Nevada for that matter-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Better not say it's a better crowd that Trump because you're both in trouble. I'm warning you right now. GRAHAM: (Inaudible) I won't-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know, but Senator Graham, this is really important. I personally think the only state I'm really worried about is little bit in Florida but I think Rick Scott will come back. He's up by two in the latest poll and Ron DeSantis for governor. But I think Marsha Blackburn will win Tennessee, I hope. I don't think Claire McCaskill is going back to the Senate. We caught on tape lying to the people of Missouri about who she really is. We see the same in your adjacent state and Krysten Sinema. I mean it's OK to join the Taliban. I can't imagine the people of Arizona voting for that. Heidi Heitkamp I think is a pickup, a possible pickup in Montana. And the people in Indiana stay away from the Libertarian candidate Joe Donnelly. He will be saying goodbye in January. Senator Graham, what are the top issues? GRAHAM: Well, I think one, attitude he has a great attitude. Dean Heller to me just represents a happy warrior. He will cross party lines when it makes sense for Nevada. I think that the big issue is what you were talking about before is what kind of country we're going to be. The way we respect elections or do we destroy a conservative candidate no holds barred and call that an honorable endeavor. Your pocketbook is an issue, your safe is an issue, but how Kavanaugh is an issue. All I can say is if you really were disgusted by what happened to this fine man destroying at all cost you got a chance to send a signal they will never stop this until they lose. And I hope if wins it's over. We're going to hold the Senate. He is running a great race but there's an attitude you're going to see at all. HELLER: It's a big one. HANNITY: And Nevada is very key. Same with Tennessee I would argue as well. You know Newt Gingrich had been saying that it's about Kavanaugh, this caravan that is making its way to our southern border but I would add two other things about the mobs confronting Republicans and cabinet members and women and families, which is been pretty despicable. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: And the last thing is we have record low unemployment in 14 states, record low unemployment for African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian-Americans, women in the workplace. Senator Heller, I don't want that progress to stop if the Democrats get in power. HELLER: Yes. Well, let me add one more thing to that, Sean. And it's probably the combination of everything that you just said. What we've noticed for the first time in the first 19, 20 months of the Trump presidency. His numbers are starting to move in Nevada. He stayed pretty consistent, 47, 48 percent per approval. He is above 50 percent now. When he jumped and I'm just telling you within the last 30 days you're starting to see Trump movement and that's helping all of us. HANNITY: Senator Graham, putting aside the Senate for a minute, you're way, way back in your past or once a House member. GRAHAM: That's right. HANNITY: A much harder read on the House. HELLER: I can remember. HANNITY: And it seems like with all the retirement, you got 45 retirements. GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: History not working with us. The House is a little bit more of an uphill climb. What are your thoughts on the House? GRAHAM: Well, I just left California we got 14 Republicans in the party chairman in California Republican Party chairman, so if the election were held today we went 13 up. There's a post Kavanaugh vamp. If you're a Republican and you're not energize by Kavanaugh and the caravan you're probably legally dead. So, our people have every reason to vote. Kavanaugh reminded us what they would do with power. The caravan reminds us of how weakness invites aggression and this caravan needs to be stopped and President Trump is going to stop it. The better we do in the Senate, the better we do in the House. I think -- I think we got a good chance of holding the House. HANNITY: It's funny, though, those seats in California, you're right. I've identified six on my list of the top 30 in the country-- GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: -- that I put up on my web site and Dana Rohrabacher and Duncan Hunter those are very important seats. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: As is your seat, Senator Heller. We wish you the best. The key to a great night-- (CROSSTALK) HELLER: Sean, thank you. HANNITY: -- on election night is going to be watching you hopefully get reelected in Nevada. All right. HELLER: Right. HANNITY: Thank you both. When we come back, the video of the day, we have a preview of the great one, Mark Levin. And a preview of his show for Sunday night. HANNITY: All right. This weekend and the great one Mark Levin is back and he is hosting Newt Gingrich on her show. You don't want to miss it. Here's a sneak review. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER UNITED STATES SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: I would say 60 percent of them are great party today. There's a radical party. Kevin McCarthy had it exactly right that when he said this is now a campaign between America and socialism, it's not between Democrats and Republicans, and I think this is now the socialist party of the United States. And you look like places like Venezuela which is disintegrating and you have to ask yourself when how can any rational person favor the kind of socialism that every time it's tried is a disaster. MARK LEVIN, FOX NEWS HOST: So, you think this election like McCarthy is about Americanism? GINGRICH: Yes. LEVIN: Versus socialism. GINGRICH: Which country are we going to? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Two intellectual conservative heavyweights Life, Liberty, and Levine Sunday. The great one is back 10 p.m. Eastern right here on the Fox News Channel. All right. Unfortunately. that's all the time we have left. We'll always be fair and balance. We are not the destroy- Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is next. Have a great weekend. We'll see you Monday. 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Great show. Congrats, by the way, on the success of the book. Buckle up, busy, busy news night. A lot percolating out there and we're only 12 days away from the all-important midterm elections where you get to decide, where you have all the power. Does Nancy Pelosi become the next speaker of the House? You decide whether that happens, or Chuck Schumer becomes the next leader of the United States Senate. And so much is at stake, including, let's think about this, building the wall in our southern border, because at this hour, the migrant caravan is still headed straight towards our southern border in the U.S. And as we speak, they are marching through Mexico, growing in size, we have estimates now have at least 14,000 people planning to pass through a U.S. port of entry, or maybe not a point of entry. And coming up, we'll show you how the president is responding tonight. He has a message for those in the caravan. Also at this hour, American troops are headed to the border. Also, we'll have important election updates from all across the country, including some extremely interesting and good poll numbers for Republicans. One state, West Virginia, another state, believe it or not at play in the Senate might be the state of New Jersey. And also tonight, the mail bomb scare, that continues. Breaking earlier today, two more suspected bombs were discovered. This is a serious situation but we're going to show you how, sadly, there are people in this country on the left in the media, trying to use it to bludgeon, as usual, President Trump, and anyone who supports them. Buckle up. It's time for a very busy night. We start with our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Less than two weeks until the midterms, the topic of immigration could literally decide the balance of power or tip the balance of power in the election. Now, for years, the Democrats have all but ignored border security. Now, many on the left have actively worked against President Trump, his plan for a border wall. Many prominent Democratic leaders, they have vowed to abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, ICE. They have turned out an immigration deal that would have offered to address the status of so-called streamers. The president was willing to negotiate. It's now perfectly clear, obvious, and transparent that Democrats -- literally, they want open borders. They don't want a wall. They don't want law enforcement and they don't want an enforcement of our laws and open literally a free pass in terms of our border. And they support sanctuary cities and sanctuary states, and free health care for all, like in California. And now, there is fast approaching a crisis at our southern border tonight. No one on the left even seems to care. Their silence is deafening. Thousands upon thousands of migrants literally marching to the U.S. in what would be a mass invasion in order to demand entry or just sneak in with no visa criminal application, no documentation, no paperwork, and in many cases, no way to verify who anybody is and where they came from. Now, this would not be an issue -- think about this -- if we had a fully constructed border wall today -- that caravan wouldn't exist. And this week, President Trump is responding. Today, he ordered at least 800 more troops to our southern border to help with security. He also issued this warning to the caravan on Twitter, writing, quote: to those in the caravan, turn around. We are not planning people into the U.S. illegally. Go back to your country. If you want you can apply for citizenship, like millions of others are doing currently. And as we speak, the caravan seemingly has no plans to turn around, which would set up a very serious confrontation if they choose at the U.S.-Mexico border. Coming up tonight, Sara Carter will join us with well analysis of all the risk here, including she met some people, members of MS-13, and she just returned from Central America where she was tracking and investigating this caravan. Only 12 days until what could be the most important midterm election in our life. This could be a tipping point for America. From issues like our borders, due process, the presumption of innocence, the growing economy that is creating so many millions of jobs, to our safety come our security from all over the world, so much at stake in 12 days. And it's up to you to make your voice heard at the ballot box. And tonight, big news, Republicans, they are gaining momentum and states nobody thought might be in play. West Virginia, a new poll out today, Republican Patrick Morrisey has a two-point advantage on Democratic incumbent Joe Manchin. Wow. Now, Joe votes with Schumer almost all the time, although he did have an election year conversion. He did vote for Kavanaugh. But, literally, the president single-handedly has been helping in that state. And from borders and all these other issues, if you look, you know, we got a lot at stake in West Virginia. I would argue that the president of the United States, he, himself, he saved the coal industry, with Patrick Morrisey up two points against Joe Manchin. You know, Schumer almost all the time, Manchin voting for, the single -- this president single-handedly saving the coal mine industry, creating jobs for people in West Virginia. Joe was against the tax cuts. Joe supports the disaster of Obamacare, not free-market solutions. Now, this would be a huge come-from-behind win for Morrisey, who is up against Joe Manchin, and who is undergoing an election year transformation into a moderate, a Kavanaugh supporting Democrat. OK, the only one. In New Jersey, look at this, Senator Bob Menendez locked in a very tight race. New Jersey could actually turn red. Remember, Christie Todd Whitman. Remember, Governor Kaine. Remember Governor Christie. All from New Jersey, all Republicans. It can happen. In Missouri tonight, Democrat Claire McCaskill, she's showing more signs of desperation in her race against Republican Josh Hawley, who is now leading in the polls there, releasing an ad where she is calling her own party crazy. I'm not going to disagree with that part. Take a look. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) AN ANNOUNCER: Paid for by McCaskill for Senate. SEN. CLAIRE MCCASKILL (D), MISSOURI: I'm Claire McCaskill, candidate for U.S. Senate, and I approve this message. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you know about this Josh Hawley guy? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I know he was a Yale lawyer who worked in D.C., and he supports those tariffs. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, what does he do now? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I think we just elected him to attorney general. He's a man in a hurry, prosecuting fewer criminals and has never tried a case. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And hasn't Hawley been caught hanging at the gym and now buying wine during work hours. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I saw that. Has this guy done anything as A.G.? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, the one thing he did do is use our tax dollars to file that lawsuit to end protections for pre-existing medical conditions. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, totally helping the insurance companies and not us. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I don't always agree with Claire McCaskill but she works hard, fighting against those tariffs, doing all those town halls. And Claire is not afraid to stand up against her own party. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, and Claire is not one of those crazy Democrats. She works right in the middle and find compromise. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Especially when it comes to protecting things here in Missouri. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. The people of Missouri, know this: she is no moderate. McCaskill voted against your tax cuts. She voted against both Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch. And she doesn't support President Trump's plan, she doesn't support border security, a border wall, and she wants to keep Obamacare. She has no plan to make your life better. She kind of, and this ad, appears to be talking about herself. Her far left views were also exposed in the undercover video by projectveritas.com earlier this month, where she is pretending to be someone she is not -- a moderate. She's not moderate. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CLAIRE MCCASKILL (D), MISSOURI: If we have the kind of year I think we might have, we could actually be in a position where we could put some of the stuff on the floor, and we would get 60. McConnell knows this. He doesn't want to put it on the floor, it will go to the House and it's awkward, all those House members are total NRA folks. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you would be on board with the bump stocks and -- high capacity mags? MCCASKILL: Of course. Of course. I've voted for most of those things before. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For a ban? MCCASKILL: Oh, yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But she doesn't openly go out and support groups like "Mom's Demand Action" or just like other groups that are related to that, because that could hurt, like her ability to get elected. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That video shows Claire McCaskill is literally lying to the good people of Missouri. And, frankly, it's insulting. Which brings us to the wacky Senate candidate from Arizona, and that's Democrat Kyrsten Sinema. She got more bad news today and she deserved it. You just will loss the endorsement of the Arizona State Troopers Association. This was a group that had supported her and three past elections. They are now realizing, like many Americans, that Sinema is way too radical for Arizona voters. Remember her comments, calling Arizona the meth lab of democracy. Arizonans crazy, saying this is shocking to everybody, that it's okay, after 9/11, for Americans to go join the enemy, the Taliban. Right after 9/11. She was inviting that radical attorney for the blind sheikh to Arizona State University. And, by the way, who is she up against? Martha McSally, 28 years serving her country, six tours of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan. This is the single most radical crop of Democrats ever to seek office. And less than two weeks from tonight, you have the power to stop Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, prevent Maxine Waters, that liar Adam Schiff, Jerrold Nadler, from becoming committee chairs. Now, you vote for any Democrat in the House, you are voting for Pelosi. Any Democrat in the Senate, you're voting for Schumer. It couldn't be more clear. And the good news, we are only 12 days away, well, President Trump's "Real Clear Politics" average job approval just hit a 20-month high. And John McLaughlin, the pollster, says new data shows tonight it's tight, but Republicans can still hold onto the House. You have the power to make that happen. Now, we're going to will have full election analysis just moments away, but first we continue to track the mail bomb scare putting many Americans on edge tonight. Two more suspected bombs were discovered earlier today, targeting former Vice President Joe Biden and actor Robert de Niro. That brings the total of mail explosions up to ten and thankfully -- thankfully -- none of these packages detonated. Thankfully, no one was injured. Still, you have to feel horrible for anyone who is threatened. Sadly in my life, I have been through similar situations. I deplore, like most Americans, what is happening here. I hope we catch and I am hearing we might be catching soon, the monster responsible for these acts. They should go to prison for a very, very long time, because without a doubt, it's a serious story. The sad part of the story is, those that want to politicize this. Over 24 hours, your mainstream media, people on the left, Democrats, have been using what is a scary situation to bash, bludgeon, President Trump and anybody that supports President Trump, attacking FOX News, talk radio, yours truly. Keep in mind, we have no idea who committed these acts. We don't even know his or her voters. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is fair to blame in some sense the president's rhetoric. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president cannot escape special scrutiny. He is at the head of the hate parade. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump unleashed the dogs of hatred in this country. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The rhetoric that comes out of this White House is not helpful at all. There is collateral damage. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The rhetoric has been going on. It's been present at his rally since he was a candidate. What is new? What is new is a toxic mix, the toxic mix of embracing dictators. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The tone is coming from the top and now, CNN has become a target. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's incumbent upon the Republicans in this country to start to speak out. They are perpetrators also. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I do know in my heart that President Trump bears a lot of responsibility for rhetoric that made it almost inevitable that top Democrats and the media would be targeted. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To say there is no connection between what Trump has said about Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Eric Holder, John Brennan, and CNN, and the thinking of the person who sent those pipe bombs, is foolhardy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is someone who has been weaponized Trump's Twitter feed and made it into a hit list. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: One fake actually saying that no one was blaming as President Trump for the heinous act, OK, while he was saying it, the on-screen banner right underneath him literally blamed President Trump for the heinous act. You can't make this up. So, listen to the words, watch the lower third. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No one is blaming the president. Is anyone blaming the president? But the president now wants to make this about him. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oops. Anyway, today, White House Press secretary Sarah Sanders called out the media for aggressively trying to link the president in a sick way of the United States to what are acts of an obviously deranged individual who at this hour is still unknown. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I think it is absolutely disgraceful that one of the first public statements we heard from CNN yesterday was to put the blame and the responsibility of this despicable act on the president and on me personally, when the person that is responsible for this is a person who made and created and put these suspicious packages in the hands under the arms of innocent American citizens. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, regardless who is sending me threatening packages, Congresswoman Maxine Waters, who was a target of one such packages is actually calling for Trump to take full responsibility, as if Trump mailed to the packages himself. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: I think the president of the United States should take responsibility for the kind of violence that we are seeing for the first time in different ways. I think the president of the United States has been dog whistling to his constituency, making them believe that their problems are caused by those people over there. And I think that they are acting out, that they believe the president wants them to do. He, in his own way, really does do a lot to promote violence. Now they are trying to turn it on us. Of course, they would like to intimidate us, and, of course, we must be wise, we must not be foolish, and I think the foolish ways, we should never stop the struggle and the fight for justice and equality in this country. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Let's do a "Hannity" flashback. This was back in June. The same Maxine Waters. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WATERS: You have members of your cabinet that are being booed out of restaurants. You have protesters taking about their houses who's saying, "No peace, no sleep." And if you see anybody from that cabinet, in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out when you create a crowd, and you push back on them, and you tell them they are not welcome anymore anywhere. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Get a crowd, not welcome anywhere, anymore. In this country, calling out Democrats for what is their horrible political agenda, that is not an incitement of violence, calling out fake news for being fake, and not objective and not fair and not balanced, but opinion, that is not an incitement of violence -- and the left, of all people, should believe in this. Night after night, for over a month now, we have been calling for this rhetoric in this country to cool down, starting with the Kavanaugh hearings. But this breathless, incendiary rhetoric from the left has been nonstop, ever since Trump's inauguration. This includes elitist target of the mail bomb scare, Robert de Niro. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROBERT DE NIRO, ACTOR: How dare he say the things he does. Of course I want to punch him in the face. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. DE NIRO: It was only a symbolic thing anyway. It wasn't like I was going to go punch him in the face. He's got to hear it. That's what he makes people feel. This (EXPLETIVE DELETED) idiot is the president. The guy is a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) fool. Come on. Our government today, with the prompting of our baby in chief, has (EXPLETIVE DELETED) in chief I call him. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Come on, I won't punch him in the face, the president. Of course what you just saw is just the tip of the iceberg. Let's take another trip down "Hannity" memory lane. Some of the classics. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON (D), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. ELLEN DEGENERES, TV HOST: If you had to be stuck in an elevator with either President Trump, Mike Pence, or Jeff Sessions, who would it be? SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: Does one of us has to come out alive? (LAUGHTER) SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: Please don't just come here today and then go home. Go to the Hill today. Get up and please, get up in the face of some Congress people. ERIC HOLDER, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL: Michelle always says that, you know, when they go low, we go high. No, no. If they go low, we kick them. JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: The press always asks me, don't I wish I were debating him? No, I wish we were high school, I could take him behind the gym. That's what I wish. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wants to send the military to the border. So -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to send the military to the White House to get him. (LAUGHTER) MADONNA, SINGER: Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. JOHNNY DEPP, ACTOR: When was the last time an actor assassinated a president? I want to clarify, I'm not an actor. I lie for a living. However, it's been a while and maybe it's time. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You know what? We don't need lectures from any of them anymore about civility. And just Tuesday, "The New York Times," the paper of record, actually publishing a short fictional story fantasizing about President Trump's assassination, complete with a drawing of a handgun and a Russian flag with a title, "How It Ends." Just as Trump or anyone who supports them, all vilified by the left. This has been going on for over two years, a slew of violent acts, other cases of incivility committed by sound deranged, far left individuals. And today, we learned that a New Jersey Republican candidate, he got a letter threatening the lives of his wife and small children. And there is more. Take a look at your screen, right there, two Republicans punched in Minnesota, one Republican incapacitated for six weeks and the other was a woman. We have another Republican assaulted in Nevada, suspicious packages containing a substance purported to be ricin. Remember, that was sent to Susan Collins of Maine, top Trump officials, including Trump himself, Secretary of Defense Mattis, FBI Director Wray, CIA Director Haspel, and the president, and his family, the president's son targeted with a suspicious package. Don Jr.'s ex-wife hospitalized because of that package. A truck with Trump bumper sticker set on fire. Dozens more instances of vandalism assault, harassment. Don't forget about all of the Republicans run out of restaurants, many women. Republicans stalked in airports, spit on in Capitol Hill. And despite all of this, no calls come from the left. No statements of unity, virtually no one in the Democratic Party publicly condemning those acts. And the media, all but ignoring these stories. On this program, we have long said that every person is responsible for their own behavior. I don't try to blame Bernie Sanders, and I didn't try, when one of his supporters tried to assassinate a Republican congressman last year, Steve Scalise, on a baseball field. But tonight, it's sad that the media, the left, Democrats seem to only care about scoring cheap political points and political rhetoric and vitriol, but only when the left is the target. It's like they only care about Russian collusion if it's Trump, just like they only care about potential sexual assault from 40 years ago when it's Kavanaugh, but not, let's see, Cory Booker or Keith Ellison or their beloved Bill Clinton. That's off limits. No calls for FBI investigations in any of those cases. It is a shameful double standard. You have 12 days. This is a choice between a party of principles, a president that's keeping his promises, and a party of fear. A party of high taxes, they want their crumbs back, they said so, a party that is planning to cut more taxes and make the tax cuts permanent. That is your choice. A party that wants open borders, eliminating ICE, or a party of sanctuary cities and states, or a party that believes we need to protect our southern border and build a wall. A party that wants more, and less regulation, or a party that says regulation is a stranglehold of business in America. Those that believe in top down health care, Obamacare, versus a free market, better health care system that works, in other words, health savings accounts or health care cooperatives. Then, of course, their big goal, you give power to Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, what is their quest? Impeachment, but just don't tell the American people, just like John Podesta advises, don't talk about immigration, don't tell people how you really feel. In 12 days, you have the power to literally, again, shock the world. The power is in your hands. You decide. Not them. When we come back, Congressman Steve Scalise, and also, we'll check in with Pam Bondi, David Limbaugh, so much more, reacting to our open monologue. Stay with us. We have a lot more breaking news straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. So, in the wake of the flurry of suspicious packages being sent to prominent Democrats and CNN and the media is rushing to blame the president, talk radio, FOX News, the GOP. Meanwhile conservative Congressman Steve Scalise, he was the victim of a gruesome political violence, and he is out with a new op-ed. After bombing attempts, all must agree of violence and terror have no place in politics. He joins us now along with the author of the new book, "Jesus is Risen," a "New York Times" bestseller, "Paul and the Early Church", David Limbaugh, also an attorney of mine. Steve -- by the way, I knew more -- by the way, Pam Bondi, the attorney general. She was ran out of a movie theater. We're going to get to Pam. I'm sorry, Pam. Steve, you know, I know how bad your situation was, especially the first 48 hours. I think I have been hearing that you are having massive blood transfusions. You are literally on the verge of death. We found out later they're shooting was a Bernie Sanders supporter. I said on the air -- I have never blamed Bernie Sanders because one of his a supporters would ever act in a crazy, violent way. I think you agree with me. REP. STEVE SCALISE (R-LA), HOUSE MAJORITY WHIP: I totally agree with you. HANNITY: Yes. And the point is, you know, there are crazy people. We don't know who is responsible here. But you are also right in saying, this has got to stop. I don't even think that we should allow the public in the halls of Congress anymore after what we saw in the Kavanaugh hearings. Do you agree with that? SCALISE: No, you still want to have the House and the Senate be places where the public can come. You know, somebody trying to act up and disrupt the hearing, they should be arrested and -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You got people confronted and they won't let them get into an elevator? SCALISE: Again, if somebody is going to try to assault somebody, those are crimes and they ought to be -- they ought to be arrested, prosecuted. But look, I mean, one of the things you are seeing right now, we all should be condemning what's happening with these bomb devices that are being sent. But the left shouldn't just be angry about this, when they are silent about attacks on conservatives. I've been very vocal against attacks on conservatives or Democrats, Republicans or Democrats. It doesn't matter. There's no place for it in politics. But don't just come out and announce it when it is somebody on the left getting attacked and be silent when it's somebody on the right. This is a time for all of us to come together and say this isn't America is. We're not just going to look the other way on one side, but only be concerned when it affects us. All of us should be concerned when anybody is trying to be threatened or attacked based on their political views, regardless of what the views are. HANNITY: You know, Pam, I watched you, what happened when you are trying to see a movie. We saw Sarah Sanders and her kids and her family. We saw Secretary Nielsen. We saw this weekend, Mitch McConnell, a guy banging on his table, stealing his food, throwing it out the door, a boulder through Kevin McCarthy's office window. We've seen Ted Cruz and his wife run out of restaurants. And what's sad is there was virtual silence. You could see this building, you know, and nobody -- the only -- you know, it always seems to some on the media or the left, it's the only seems to matter. They were OK with the mob violence. CNN saying don't say mob violence. It looked like mob violence what was been happening? PAM BONDI, FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Of course, that was mob violence. And you know, Representative Scalise said it best in his op-ed and it was beautiful, Steve what you wrote. DAVID LIMBAUGH, AUTHOR AND ATTORNEY: Thanks. BONDI: He said violence and terror have no place in politics nor in our society and it's a shame that after what happened to him he's even having to right now so this is still going on. Sean, you and I have been saying for how long this is going to happen again. This has got to stop. This has to stop. Everybody just had to call a timeout on this horrible, horrible language. And, you know, Eric Holder I know that man and for him to say kick them when they're down is disgusting. And it doesn't matter what side it's coming from, it just has to stop on all sides-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know, David. BONDI: -- or someone is going to get hurt. HANNITY: You know, I look at, for example, you know, Russia collusion. You know what? There is no Trump Russia collusion. But Hillary did pay for Russian lies that was used to disseminate lies to the American people. It was used to secure FISA warrants and commit a fraud on the court. It was used to help set up, you know, through a media leak strategy. The special counsel Robert Mueller, that the left never wants to talk about that. The left only cares about assault sexually when it's Kavanaugh but not Keith Ellison, Bill Clinton or Cory Booker in an allegation have been made against him. And the same here. You know, why can't we just have some basic fundamental rules here. Shouldn't the Kavanaugh rule apply to everybody? Shouldn't Russia collusion apply to Hillary too? BONDI: Well, that's how due process-- (CROSSTALK) LIMBAUGH: I agree with-- HANNITY: David? LIMBAUGH: I agree with Congressman Scalise and Pam Bondi. The problem that I see here is the left as usual always use these opportunities to exploit these things politically. When Trump came out and denounced this violence and called for unity they jumped on him because he wouldn't condemn himself. You had Pelosi and Schumer just outright said Trump needs to condemn himself before we'll even accept this. And the left always rushes to blame conservatives. They did it with Sarah Palin, saying she painted a bull's- eye on someone, and then that led the violence. Now they're saying these bombs are direct result of Trump's vitriolic statements. They don't take responsibility. The media and the left don't take responsibility for their own negativity their own lambasting of Trump 24 hours a day on the news and it's just outrageous. And that's got to stop too. Violence isn't the only problem. HANNITY: You know, Steve Scalise, I just got to say at this point after all you've6 been through. You still have a hard time walking, don't you? REP. STEVE SCALISE (R), LOUISIANA: Yes. I'm still doing physical therapy a few days a week to build my strength back up and get to where hopefully I don't have to walk with the crutch and that's my next goal, so I'm working towards that. I get better every day and God's been great to me. I'm lucky to be alive. HANNITY: Pam, how is it that the left claims a monopoly of compassion for women in particular, champions of women, but it's only Kavanaugh to get the Kavanaugh standard. And all the women that have been thrown at restaurants they were kind of silent, including you thrown out of the movie theater-- (CROSSTALK) BONDI: Well, and then Maxine Waters double down on it afterwards. It's absurd. And it's just, they need to stop and the president has nothing to do with this. HANNITY: Yes. David, last word. LIMBAUGH: Yes, there's no pleasing the left. They want to keep these issues start up because they don't have any substantive political issues on which they can win and they're really desperate right now before this election. They're very nervous, so they've got to keep this rhetoric revved up and politicized, and it's shameful. We all condemn it. I agree with the other two guests. We condemn all violence from anybody. HANNITY: I said at the time I wanted Obama protected when that guy run to the White House. What do we do, we got to protect our president? I said it many, many times. It goes for Maxine Waters, that goes for Nancy Pelosi, anybody. You know what? People have a chance in this country. We have a ballot box and we have an election in 12 days. Make your opinions down there. Thank you, all. I appreciate. When we come back, we have the latest on this migrant caravan that is growing by the hour. Ed Henry with full report. Dan Bongino, Rachel Campos-Duffy, Sara Carter who is down there joins us straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. As we continue, joining us now with the latest on the caravan, Fox News chief national correspondent, our own Ed Henry has the very latest tonight. Ed? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Sean, good to see you. There are reports breaking this hour that the Trump administration is now thinking about a dramatic escalation in terms of dealing, not just with the caravan, but cracking down on illegal immigration. So, the president is thinking about an executive order to use travel ban like authority to crack down on who exactly can get asylum at the U.S.- Mexico border. This would be a big step, it's being considered tonight by the White House, we'll see whether they move forward with it. In the meantime, you see all this media coverage about the suspicious packages that's taking the focus of the midterms a little bit away from what the president has been saying. He wants to frame it around Kavanaugh, the caravan, tax cuts and as he's put it common sense. But today, the president very much try to keep that caravan, which grew back up to over 7,000 migrants in front of the mind of voters going to the polls in less than two weeks. Early voting already starting in many parts across the country. The president got some backup today from Vice President Mike Pence after the president himself tweeted directly to the caravan, quote, "Go back to your country and if you want, apply for citizenship, like millions of others are doing." Then the vice president jumps in. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: To those in the caravan, turn around. We are not going to allow you to enter our illegally. (CROWD CHEERING) (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: Now the president has also ordered the Pentagon to send U.S. troops to the border. This will include about 800 military engineers, doctors and lawyers who will go to back up the border patrol that's already there, as well as, remember the 2100 National Guard troops the president already sent there. Where the troops is still being worked out in terms of the details. But the fact that the present is now engaging active-duty military in this effort shows he continues to follow up on a key promise from his own 2016 campaign, cracking down on illegal invasion. And the breaking news again tonight, reports that the president is considering at least an executive order of some type that would crack down on who exactly can get asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border. Bottom line is, the president already tweeted days ago, Sean, that he might have to shut the border down altogether. This might be one step in that direction until he feels that the situation is under control, Sean. HANNITY: And as we pointed out he has a legal and constitutional authority to do so. Ed in Washington tonight, great reporting. Thank you. The New York Times reporting that President Trump as he just mentioned considering executive action to stop migrants from entering the country. It'd be similar to Trump's previous travel ban. Joining us now with reaction, former Secret Service agent NRA TV contributor, Dan Bongino, along with Fox News contributor investigative reporter, Sara Carter. You see her often on Fox News -- Fox and Friends weekend, Rachel Campus-Duffy. Good to see you all. Sara, you are down there. You reported to us that in fact you saw people with MS-13 tattoos. I want as you're speaking to put up the video we just saw. And that is if they get to the southern border, this is when they were at the border with Mexico. Mexican police did not have a very large presence and they're banging down that fence and then you see them rushing across the border and they didn't do anything, that's not going to happen here. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: That's right, Sean. I think people should be very concerned about what's happening here. Remember, a lot of these people that are crossing they've been couched, they know what to say. This is the reason why the president is considering this drastic action. So, they get to the border. They try to clean, credible fear, asylum. They know the stories they need to say to get the asylum pre-screeners to approve them into the country so that they can actually get a court date. These are really deep concerns here within ICE. I was on the phone with ICE agents, as well as border patrol agent. This is a large group of people. And remember, it's swelled as it went through Mexico. So, we had the people coming from Honduras through Guatemala and then some of the people in Guatemala turned back and went back to Honduras but then the rest of them kept moving and what happened was the drug cartels kept adding to it. So, they were putting their own people in, the Smugglers. And today I just got information and some photos actually right before coming on the show that in Guatemala they found seven little children, unaccompanied minors with no parents that they've now taken them to a facility, a social worker's facility and they're keeping them there. So, people are willing to do almost anything. Remember, these aren't just migrants looking for work. Some of them are, but there's also people in there that are willing to cross the line. There are criminals and they are willing to do things like smuggle children into the country that are unaccompanied. HANNITY: Dan Bongino, the president has been clear and one thing you can say about President Trump, when he says something he means it. You heard the vice president, if there's any confrontation on our southern border it will be precipitated by people that do not respect our Constitution, our rule of law, our borders and our sovereignty. They will cause whatever confrontation happens. And you have even people on the left, though, they all say wow, they want open borders clearly. DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: Yes, they're huge, Sean. A lot of this is being driven by a Honduran congressman, Mr. Fuentes who has been driven by radical far left ideology, as matter of fact, he didn't even expect the caravan to grow as large as it did. But let me just ask a simple question to our far-left friends who have been, Sean, conspicuously silent on this. What's the point of a border? I mean, seriously, if 5,000 people can walk across a border with "air" quotes here, illegally into the United States without being vetted, what's the point? And they keep saying, hey, prove to us that there were criminals in there. No, no, we don't have to prove anything. They were entering the country illegally or threatening to. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But there's a bigger point. BONGINO: You have to prove to us that you're not criminals, not the other way around. HANNITY: Nobody can vouch for every person there and then let's assume that the 99 percent just want a better life. Nobody can vouch for anybody. Rachel, one of the things that I think people need to understand. If we had the border wall built them coming to the border wouldn't be a problem at all. RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: It's absolutely true, Sean. And one of the things that was brought up today again by Secretary Neilson in her very good interview with Martha MacCallum earlier today, 30 percent of those little kids that you see mixed in MS-13 and other adults that we don't know who they are in that caravan. Thirty percent of the girls that are on this journey are sexually assaulted, almost 20 percent of the young boys are sexually assaulted. Where's the Me Too movement? Where are all the Hollywood people that were staging protest earlier this summer about the situation with the unaccompanied children being separated. If this is really about the kids where are now on this issue? This is heartbreaking stuff on nine-year-olds getting, you know, they are having to give pregnancy to 9-year-olds at the border. Our U.S. officials are having to do that. This is crazy stuff. The left needs to do some soul searching because it is their open border policy, they're encouraging, they're celebrating this, and in some cases they're organizing it. And they bear some responsibility for sure. HANNITY: All right. Rachel, thank you. Dan, by the way, congratulation on your new book. Sara, great reporting. And we appreciate all of you being with us. When we come back, Tomi Lahren on the streets of Los Angeles what do they think about this caravan. You won't believe what they have to say. Also, Anthony Scaramucci, Herman Cain, they weigh in. More breaking news as Hannity continues tonight. HANNITY: All right. So as the migrant caravan makes it way north right to our southern border, Fox Nation's Tomi Lahren, Foxnation.com hits the streets to Los Angeles asking people what they thought. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TOMI LAHREN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Can I ask you a question real quick. Are you aware at all of what's going on at our border with the migrant caravan coming in thousands of people coming from Central America, what do you think? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's a place to be at, I can see why a lot of people want to come. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If I was living outside the United States I would do everything I could to get here. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you don't stop tis caravan there's going to be more. There's already one building. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think that the entire caravan is filled with bad people and hombres. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We just can't a bunch of people crashed the border. That's insane. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There should be some amnesty granted to them because of the travesties that are occurring in their country. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you take of the American people first and foremost before we deal with anybody else's country's and their problem. LAHREN: Do you think we should have a wall-- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. LAHREN: -- on the southern border to stop people from just coming in? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. There should be no wall. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. A wall barrier is the stupidest possible thing. (CROSSTALK) LAHREN: Why is that? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because look at history. Look at the Great Wall of China. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There should be no walls in our planet. It's just wrong. I mean, imagine every country had a wall, how we ever get around and move around. LAHREN: Does it make you nervous about who would be coming over here since we really don't know who these people are? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, because they really don't know who must the people are that are already here. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: God bless America and every one of you is welcome here. I love you. She's out. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Quick programming note, by the way, Tomi will be a part of the all-new Fox nation first look. And that airs Sunday night 8 p.m. right here on the Fox news Channel. Actually, I might even be on the Fox nation. I do. It's going to be big. Anyway, Tomi will tell you how to become a founding member of Fox Nation and the new streaming service. But first, joining us now, author of the bestseller "Trump, the Blue-Collar President," Anthony Scaramucci. And from America Fighting Back PAC, chairman Herman Cain. Good to see you both. HERMAN CAIN, CHAIRMAN, AMERICA FIGHTING BACK PAC: Thank you. HANNITY: Mooch, starting with you. This is really important. One thing that you write about in your book that is so true about Donald Trump. He says it, he means it. ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI, FORMER WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: No question. He is a deliver on his promises and literally goes down the list. The legendary Steve Roth from Vornado Realty said about the president. He takes out a yellow piece of paper he writes it down on the list and he checks off the list methodically. And so, he is super happy that he is fulfilling these campaign promises. And so, the border thing will get straightened out. And as you know, Sean, it's important for the American people to understand the tightness at the border and the reduction of the illegal immigration has led to taking out the slack in the labor market and that's why the African-American labor numbers are so fantastic as well the Hispanic-American labor number. So, the president is getting directly what he wants. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And record states. Records, Asian-Americans, African-Americans, Hispanic-American. SCARAMUCCI: No question. HANNITY: Women in the workforce. Amazing statistics which should be in people's minds in 12 days. Herman Cain, we saw the video earlier what happened at the Mexico border the southern border. And we saw offenses and they were allowed to get through. That's not going to happen here. If they do make it to our southern border and I pray they do not, any precipitation any charge like that is going to be met with our military. I don't want anybody getting hurt. I would argue that the overwhelming majority these people want a better life which I can appreciate a lot, but we don't know, we can't vouch for not any one person in there and others will mix in with them. But it would be precipitated by Mexico also allowing this. CAIN: You're absolutely right. We have a president that has clearly stated in his own words. This is our house. He has also stated he will protect the United States of America at all costs. This president has given notice to the Democrats, the media and the lunatics. This is our house. Secondly, if you were standing in the front door of your home and people showed up that you did not know, and they had no credentials, would you let them in your house? The answer is no. And fortunately, we have a president that is saying exactly the same thing. This is our house. HANNITY: I hope to God they understand this is real. By the way, congrats on your new group. Mooch, congrats on your new book, "Trump, the Blue- Collar President" Amazon.com, bookstores everywhere. All right. More HANNITY right after this. HANNITY: All right. That's unfortunately all the time we have left. Remember, in 12 days you get to decide. Four hundred thirty-five members of Congress up for reelection. States like Florida, governor, senator. Then we have Tennessee, then we have Missouri, then we have Nevada, then we have Arizona, then we have even Montana can be one, and Indiana can be one and you could make it all happen. Even West Virginia and New Jersey are now in play. Two days. Let not your heart be troubled. There she is. Laura Ingraham takes it away from the sewer. Load-Date: October 26, 2018 End of Document Democrats Blaming President Trump On Pipe Bombs Sent To Prominent Democrats, As They Were The Usual Target Of President Trump On His Rallies; Investigators Are Saying That Some Of The Pipe Bombs Were Dud, Possibly Meant To Scare Or Intimidate; Senator Chuck Grassley Makes Referral To Justice Department to Investigate Michael Avenatti And Julie Swetnick For Making False Accusations Against Judge Kavanaugh; Florida Gubernatorial Candidates Andrew Gillum And Ron DeSantis Have Final Debate; Analyst Examines Immigrant Caravan From Guatemala Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 25, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7880 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Ed Henry Guests: Chris Litman, Jeffrey Lord, Victor Davis Hanson, Danny Coulson, Ryan Morris, John Lauro, Candace Owens, Derek Maltz Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Montana can be won and Indiana can be won and you could make it all happen. Even West Virginia and New Jersey are now in play, 12 days. Let not your heart be troubled. There she is. Laura Ingraham takes it away from the sewer in Washington, D.C. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: OK. Every time you throw to me, the last word out of your mouth is sewer or swamp. OK, I get it. It's getting to be a little demoralizing. Come on, it means like a -- HANNITY: It's not my fault. I live in a sewer and swamp in New York also. I pay 10 percent state income tax. If I lived in Florida or Texas I would pay zero. That means, why are we here? I agree. INGRAHAM: I can't (inaudible). HANNITY: And the weather is better there. INGRAHAM: There is a tiny violin playing for you Hannity. We've already decided we're all moving to Texas. HANNITY: Are you making me throw papers at you again? INGRAHAM: Come visit us soon. You had a great show tonight, Hannity. HANNITY: Oh, you too. Have a great show. INGRAHAM: All right. I am Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from a very busy news night here in Washington. We still have no suspect or motive in the case of those devices sent to prominent Democrats in the last few days. But that has not stopped some media organizations from what I think is despicable finger pointing, and we have it for you. Plus, we received some very interesting details about these bombs from authorities today, yet some media folks, they just don't want to talk about it. We'll examine. And last night's Florida gubernatorial debate revealed an ugly truth about some Democratic tactics. Level unfounded charges of racism and then you win the argument. Candace Owens will be here later in the hour to break down the left's new rules. But first, the Democrats convenient case of amnesia, that's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Now at this point, it seems the bomb-like materials sent to prominent Democrats and CNN were not meant to detonate but they were meant to intimidate and sow fear. And predictably the left and their journalist brethren are blaming Trump. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Law enforcement investigators are obviously right now I'm sure noticing that all of the recipients have been the targets of wrath from President Trump. CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNBC HOST: He has frequently channeled his supporter's rage toward people or groups that he sees as his political enemy some of whom were targeted by today's bombs. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is distracting from that, you know, that idea of what atmosphere we have in our country right now. And he is not doing anything to really tone that down. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The impulse to blame the president takes us back to the issues of basic fairness and common sense. Two qualities that seem to be in short supply these days. It's irresponsible and it's outrageous for these folks to even imply that somehow these dastardly acts were provoked by our commander-in-chief. And the media wonder why the American people have increasingly little respect for them. And plus, where was their outrage and fury when prominent Democrats were either just personally and viciously insulting conservatives or actually using aggressive actions toward them? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store or a gasoline station, you get out and you gather a crowd and you push back on them. JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The press always ask me, don't I wish I were debating him. No, I wish we were in high school -- I could take him behind the gym. HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: No toxicity there at all. No urging of aggressive rhetoric or aggressive attitudes. And what was all the media and Democratic outrage when Hollywood made threats and showcased bloody depictions of the president? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's William Shakespeare's play "Julius Ceasar" like you have never seen before. A man dressed to look like President Donald Trump gets stabbed to death on stage. ROBERT DE NIRO, ACTOR: Of course I want to punch him in the face. KATHY GRIFFIN, COMEDIAN: I won't give away what we're doing, but Tyler and I are not afraid to do images that make noise. MADONNA, SINGER: I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. JOHNNY DEPP, ACTOR: When was the last time an actor assassinated a president. DE NIRO: I'm going to say one thing. (BLEEP) Trump! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh sorry, I guess that constitute high art in America these days. Well, not only was there no criticism from the left, they were applauding this stuff. And they just love these ugly personal confrontations, ones like this. And they are so nasty. All the different stuff, and there were like the stores and the restaurants to elevators. I don't recall folks like Joe Scarborough asking if Hillary or Maxine's rhetoric led to all these harassment and viciousness. I think the Democrats have just gotten so wrapped around the acts about Trump and all the stuff he has achieved and his numbers are going up, yet, they have adopted a by any means necessary strategy to get him out of power. And by not strongly and repeating -- repeatedly condemning the groups destructive activities and the message, I think in a way you could argue they have become the party by default of Antifa. And let's stop comparing by the way the Tea Party to Antifa as some on the left have stained to do. I heard that today. Last time I checked the Tea Party was like dressed up like Betsy Ross and some -- they were gathering and debating about how to stop Obamacare and stop future bailouts, arguing about tarp. The Tea Party was interested in driving people to the polls in 2010, not driving people from the public square. And now in the wake of these bomb mailings, it is amusing if not disturbing to watch the pied pipers of chaos, the fomenters of harassment try to flip the script. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DON LEMON, CNN HOST: All of you guys, I am so glad that we are here and alive today because we could have been mourning you guys. MIKA BRZEZINSKI, MSNBC HOST: I do know in my heart that President Trump bears a lot of responsibility for rhetoric that made it almost inevitable that top Democrats and the media would be targeted. WATERS: I think the president of the United States has been dog whispering to his constituency. I think that they are acting out that they believe the president wants them to do and the way that he wants them to act. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Is this is a woman who said, you know, basically go find them wherever they are, the gas station, restaurant, wherever they are in public. My friends we all remember what happened more than a year ago. June of 2017, when a Trump hating Bernie Sanders supporter and yes it was all verified. James Hodgkinson, opened fire on a Republican baseball practice. There could have been 12 people killed and not one nearly killed, of course, Congressman Steve Scalise was. And when somebody came, remember, began looking for a political explanation for the shooting. Do you remember what Nancy Pelosi at that time said? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA: This sick individual does something despicable and it was horrible what he did, hateful. But for them to all of a sudden be sanctimonious as if they have never seen such a thing before. I think that the comments made by my Republican colleagues are outrageous, beneath the dignity of the job that they hold. How dare they say such a thing? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: How dare anyone ascribe any type of connection to a nasty, horrible, criminal act with the tonality or atmospherics? In the aftermath of the Scalise shooting there was no examination of how Democratic rhetoric might have contributed to the violence. And there certainly were no apologies from the left. I don't think all that many people demanded apology. But now, in a joint statement with Chuck Schumer, Pelosi is actually trying to blame the president for these suspicious packages. She said in a statement, "Time and time again, the President has condoned physical violence and divided Americans with his words and actions." OK, where was she last year when Maxine Waters -- she's now the queen to the left of speaker circuit (ph) -- was making threats like this? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WATERS: And with this kind of inspiration I will go and take Trump out tonight. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE). (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: She was not talking about like out to dinner by the way. Now, this is like the moral outrage revealing what most Americans should already know. The left basically wants to impose what's tantamount to a college speech code or a college code of conduct on the rest of us where the left gets to speak, hate and pretty much do whatever they want with impunity. But the rest of us have to watch every word, every emphasis. But I think the American people are smarter than the Democrats give them credit for. I think they see through attempts like this to limit speech and politicize the acts of a few lunatics. Here is what is really going on. In the face of Kavanaugh, the caravan and the tightening polls, the Democrats and their press enablers are hoping that the horrific events of the last 480 to 72 hours will in some ways serve to stem the GOP's late surge. The public will suddenly look at them as, look at what you did, look at what you created. And in order to do this, they will need to silence Donald Trump on the stump -- and it rhymes. They want distract voters and keep the great closer, which he is on script, force the president to be more like a conventional politician on the trail and less effective. Well, good luck with that. This cynical ploy will not work. Most Americans know real evil when they see it. And they know what political opportunism is and that it can sometimes spring from that very evil. And that's THE ANGLE. Joining me now, Jeffrey Lord is the contributing editor to the "American Spectator" and former aide to President Ronald Reagan, and with me in studio is Drew Litman, is a former chief of staff to former Democratic senator Al Franken. Drew, I'll give you the first crack. Now, you heard Nancy Pelosi there in THE ANGLE. It was an outright rage for Republicans to worry about the Democrat's demonization of Trump and Republicans and how could you do that, but in this case the script is flipped, is it? DREW LITMAN, FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF OF SEN. FRANKEN: Well, what is different here is that Donald Trump is president. He commands the military. You have mentioned he is the commander-in-chief as well as federal law enforcement. When he makes a threat, what sounds like a threat, it has a different kind of potency. But even during the campaign, he urged his supporters at a rally to apply Second Amendment remedies to Hillary Clinton if she was elected. That could only mean shooting her. He also said that she ought to have her Secret Service detail pulled and we should see what happens. Clearly he contemplated some kind of physical danger for her. And now that -- INGRAHAM: So you actually -- you're saying tonight that you believe that Donald Trump wants physical harm to happen to Mrs. Clinton, really? LITMAN: I believe that's what he expressed, yes. Do I think -- INGRAHAM: Do you actually -- I actually don't think Democrats want physical harm to come to Republicans, well, I mean some in the restaurants maybe want to provoke some, you know, reaction on (inaudible) someone who is like this close to your face and your child was next to you. You probably wouldn't say hi, want to sit down and join us. You'd probably pretty ticked off, wouldn't you. LITMAN: I do completely. INGRAHAM: Yes. So what people are trying to provoke a reaction, but Maxine Waters says go where they are, go to the gas station. Eric Holder said when they, you know, when they hit us, we kick them. Hillary Clinton, we can't be civil. Holding up a decapitated head of the president. Getting applause when you say F the president. LITMAN: Cathy Griffin doesn't speak for the Democratic Party. INGRAHAM: They are applauded. They are (inaudible) Maxine Waters goes to every awards show that I can think of and is basically the toast of the town after what she said (inaudible) somehow. LITMAN: President Trump made her the toast of the town by singling her out for attacks. She is the only one out of 435 members of Congress to get one of these bombs in the mail. Do you think that's not because of the rhetoric President Trump uses? He abuses her at every rally. I think she's his favorite target. INGRAHAM: Jeffrey Lord, your reaction? JEFFREY LORD, ONTRIBUTING EDITOR, THE AMERICAN SPECATOR: Well look, There is a climate of hate in the liberal media and all of it is directed at the president. You know, CNN and Jeff Zucker and I used to work there. My old boss, I still like him. I love and respect all of my former colleagues over there and (inaudible) they have been put through hell the last couple of days. I would just say that running these constant chirons (ph) and everything, blaming the president, inferring that the president was responsible for this. We have no idea who did this. Absolutely no idea whatsoever. And I would just say to them stop, stop, stop. Jeff, for god's sake stop this. What is really dangerous about this, Laura, is Jeff's logic. And I want to read one sentence to you. This is from an Illinois paper. And the sentence -- it was a letter to the editor. And the sentence reads this way, "One of my favorite TV shows is the "Rachel Maddow Show" on MSNBC." The guy who wrote that, Laura, is the guy who shot Steve Scalise. Now, words matter Jeff Zucker says and these other folks are saying. If words matter, what they are really saying that MSNBC and Rachel Maddow who are very anti-Trump are responsible for the Scalise shooting. That's just a bunch of hooey. That is very, very dangerous. And I tell you, what is really bad about this is, god forbid that something happens to the president or Sarah Sanders or some member of this administration. This kind of argument will whirl around in a heart beat and fingers will be pointed at CNN or MSNBC to try and lay the responsibility on them, and that is wrong. INGRAHAM: Well, it's all an attempt to circumscribe speech. I mean, look, I really think more speech is better. Calling everybody -- when everybody is Hitler, nobody is Hitler. When everybody is racist, nobody is -- I mean, it demeans true evil and true evil intent. When you want physical harm to occur, to happen to someone, whoever mailed these things, whether they wanted those things to go off or not, some people area saying they didn't, this is an evil intent. We understand that. We know that. LORD: Exactly right. INGRAHAM: Connecting political speech -- LORD: Whoever does this is responsible. INGRAHAM: Unless you are saying go hit them, or go -- I think it's a very dangerous territory people are walking into it here, but Jeff, you touched on this. Take a listen to what CNN's John King said today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN KING, CNN HIST: No one is blaming the president. Is anyone blaming the president? But the president now wants to make this about him. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, did you look down when he were talking, John? The lower third on the screen says, "CNN: Trump has no plan to claim any personal responsibility for inciting serial bomber." Here is another one. "Manhunt for serial bomber going after Trump's targets." Drew, is that defensible on CNN's part? LITMAN: Perfectly defensible. The -- INGRAHAM: He said they are not blaming Trump. They are clearly blaming Trump in the lower third, otherwise known as the lower third chiron (ph). LITMAN: I think they are not blaming Trump emphatically enough. These are Trump targets, the people he has sited. He refers to people as traitors. They've committed treason. They are enemies of the state. He offered to pay if his supporters would beat up protestors, having to pay their legal fees. That's very specific. INGRAHAM: So when someone would equate -- actually I have a lot of respect for Rachel Maddow. I think she does a great show. I don't agree with her on anything, but -- and I say that -- people are probably going to hate me the fact that I said that, but I'm going to say that, OK. If I was a liberal I would watch Rachel Maddow. But when you have someone like Maxine Waters saying go out and do this. When people repeatedly are calling Trump like Hitler. I mean, people, if they could have stopped Hitler, they would have. So you are saying that that has no connection to anything that would happen to a supporter of the president like Steve Scalise? Wouldn't happen to -- if something happened to the president, would you then connect those claims of Hitlerism to the assassination attempt? Would you do it both ways? LITMAN: Are you suggesting that Steve Scalise was shot because of Democratic rhetoric? Is that what you're saying? INGRAHAM: The president has repeatedly been called Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, pretty much every dictator rolled into one, on a continual loop inn left wing media of which James Hodgkinson devoured on a daily basis. So you think there is -- I'm saying, I actually agree you can't do that. You want to do it one way but not the other way, which is convenient, which is what THE ANGLE is about. LITMAN: How did Republicans talk about Obama, remind me. Did they not say he was a dictator? INGRAHAM: A dictator? Well, if he's exactly what a dictator, you're just - - it's idiotic, OK. People say idiotic things. The left used to be about free speech. The left now is about college speech code and circumscribing speech. Less speech or more speech? And by the way, I defended your former boss when they tried to throw him out. I was the one the few people on T.V. who said let the voters decide. LITMAN: I appreciate that. INGRAHAM: Not a lot of people did that. And he and I -- he's been really nasty to me and I actually defended him. Gentlemen, thank you much. As the Hoover Institution, Victor Davis Hanson writes, "we are reaching a tipping point of civil strife not seen maybe since the 1960's and it seems that the rules of discourse are being dictated in this case solely by the left. Victor Davis Hanson is the author of "The Second World Wars" and he joins us now. Victor, you've been hearing the conversation. Your reaction to what you've heard so far tonight. VICTOR DAVIS HANSON, AMERICAN HISTORIAN: Yes, I think Americans are just tired of this instant virtue signaling and wounded fawn victimization when we don't know any of the facts of this incident. And they want symmetry. There is no rule in the arena. We don't be what the relationship is between violent or edgy speech and violent acts. We have been told -- and I agree with that. I believe in free speech, that there is no connection between James Hodgkinson shooting Steve Scalise necessarily and two years of the type of speech you played. If that's true, then there is no connection between Trump being sort of over the top in some of his rallies and this incident to what extent. But that's not what we are getting. We are getting an asymmetrical idea that when progressives use edgy speech, it has no concrete ramifications. And when a conservative doesn't say nearly as much or as violent rhetoric, it does. I just don't think that's a proposition people can accept. And if it were true, then you would see tomorrow just think of it, Maxine Waters, Joe Biden, Eric Holder, they would just cease all of their violent speech, all of their rhetoric for the next two years because they have made the argument in the case of Trump, that it will lead to something. But I don't think they will cease it. And if you do think that we need to curb our speech, there are ways to deter it. If you can say, you know what, you cannot imagine, promote, advocate the killing or the assassination of the president, cutting his head off, burning him up, blowing him off. We don't want that. And if -- you might have to take a time out. You have a 90-day cooling off period and no fly list of flights. I think that would stop at tomorrow if you believed that was necessary or if you have somebody go to campus and you get physical. These are very elite people. They have trajectory, clear trajectories. They are quite ambitious Maybe you could charge him with a felony or the people in the streets of Portland, and that would deter it if you wanted to do that. So, we have mechanisms to make the argument between violent edgy speech and violent acts. The problem is are your listeners -- INGRAHAM: Well, I want to give another example, Victor -- yes, I want to give some -- sorry to interrupt -- I want to give another example of some of the violent and edgy speech. Barack Obama when he came on the campaign trail, you know, magnetic speaker, you know, historic. This is 2008. I remember this well. This was in Philadelphia June 13th. "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun. Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl. I have seen Eagles fans." Now, I know he doesn't really mean bring a gun to a fight, but again, if a conservative says something like that, it's how dare -- you are in the pocket of he NRA, how dare you say that? So like, no one -- everyone is like walking on a tinder hooks if you are on the right. But if you are on the left, cut his head off, get in their face, make Susan Collins cower in an elevator and then you get the heroes welcome at the next Grammy's. HANSON: And that was very influential because Cory Booker channeled Barack Obama when he advocated people getting to use Barack Obama's words that he embraced. Get in their faces in a way that Eric Holder also talked about taking a gun to a knife fight. So influential but I agree with you, that didn't result in concrete actions. INGRAHAM: Victor, we'll see you on radio tomorrow I hope. And up next, more on those devices sent to various Democrats around the country, and what they can tell us perhaps about the perpetrator. We are into the facts, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And we are told by several officials that fortunately the devices they've been able to examine so far appear to have been poorly made. They apparently contained a number of flaws -- taped to the side an electrical circuit, apparently a timer though its exact function isn't yet understood, nor was it clear what was supposed to set the packages off. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Report tonight reveal that some of the suspected mail bombs addressed to high profile Democrat were simply not capable of exploding. The others have yet to be analyzed, but it is thought to that they will suffer from similar flaws. So what might any of this tell us about the motive and perhaps the skill of the perpetrator? Has this been hyped or in the caution and the attention it's getting warranted? Joining us now to discuss is Danny Coulson, a former deputy assistant director of the FBI and was the lead agent investigating that horrific Oklahoma City bombing. And Ryan Morris is an explosives training expert, founder off Tripwire Operation Group. Ryan, given your expertise in this filed, what can we take away from the fact that these devices appear at least to what we know now to be all duds? RYAN MORRIS, EXPLOSIVES EXPERT: Well, Laura, I have 24 years as a police officer. I have been a bomb squad commander and a supervisor in explosive specialist with the Department of Homeland Security. I've looked at thousands of x-rays. And today, when I saw the x-ray that was put out to the media, immediately, people that worked with me every day at Tripwire, we looked at it and said there is no way any form or fashion, the x-ray that we looked at, that that device would function. And then when we looked at the pictures that were put out there of the actual device itself, it looked very -- we term it Mickey Mouse. The device, it was very crude, you know, it's a PVC pipe. It's got a red and black wire. Very Hollywood, indicators like what would be in a Hollywood movie. And then of course the timer, the digital timer that is present there. None of that would be, you know, what a real bomber would want to do if it was a real bomber, Laura, it would be somebody that's going to send a device through the main, that would be a victim actually and when it gets there, a timer is not an effective means of deployment. INGRAHAM: Danny, Chris Cuomo said something a little bit different about what he considered to be this -- excuse me, Governor Cuomo, about this device. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDO CLIP) ANDREW CUOMO, GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK: It is wrong to say in my opinion that these are fake bombs. There is a question as to whether or not the bombs were designed to detonate or to intimidate. The question is the motivation. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Danny? DANNY COULSON, FORMER FBI DEPUTY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR: That's laughable. Laura, I have commanded the Oklahoma bombing investigation and I have been to bomb school and I have been a victim of an IED. I know how these things work. And either this guy is the Alfred E. Neuman of bomb makers or he had no intention of these things going off. As you other guest said, this looks like a movie prop. And then you have to get to the point of what then is the purpose? And I tend to believe that the purpose is not to hurt anybody because these things are not capable of injuring people and that's verified by the technician that examined them. So then what is the story? I think it's theatre. I think it's definite theater and it's messaging. And I think that is the distinction here. It's almost a joke. It's not a joke because we take it seriously, but this thing is not a bomb. It doesn't have the components of a bomb. No bomber that makes a bomb out of PVC pipe because it doesn't restrict the explosion, it causes it to accelerate and hurt people. So, it looks really like a movie prop. That whole thing is designed for theater. It's like a firebug that sets a fire so we can see the fire for trucks coming. It's almost like that or it's some kind of messaging. I think that's what we're going to find out once the FBI and ATF and the NYPD resolve this thing (inaudible) where we're going. INGRAHAM: Danny, I was talking to a friend of mine who is always on the Israeli message boards. And he said, I guess the guys who do the stuff you guys do in Israel, we're just -- (inaudible) laughing. It was horrible and it scarce people but what you guys did, it just looks ridiculous. Is there anyone who wants to do harm, does not construct something at this type of I guess, on of them said it looked like a flashlight connected with, you know, like a little baby alarm clock or something. It just looked absurd. So what does this tell us perhaps Danny about motivation other than I want to get attention? COULSON: I think -- that's a great question. I think it's one of two things and I probably like going to be popular for saying this, but instead of sending a message to these people that we are watching you and we're coming after you and try to intimidate them. Or is maybe even possibly to create sympathy for them and I don't know where it's going to come out. INGRAHAM: Ryan. I will just get Ryan -- sorry. let's get Ryan in on this. Ryan, motivation given as you guys describe, the kind of the prop-like quality -- Mickey Mouse quality of these devices? MORRIS: The only thing there be would be to intimidate or to cause fear or panic initially here. These are not functional devices. They sent them all over the place. In my opinion as well, I agree with your other guest. These devices are just meant to intimidate or cause fear. INGRAHAM: Well, but Chuck Todd -- I have reason to play this one sound bite guys. Chuck Todd on MSNBC said this today. It's really quick. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHUCK TODD, MSNBC HOST: I have this fear that it could be some Russian operation too, designed to do what is happening now. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Danny, Russians. (LAUGHTER) COULSON: The Russian make really good bombs, and most people I've dealt with in my career, they all make good bombs, too. This was not a bomb. It's a fake. It's a prop. And the motive we'll find out. The FBI will find this guy. There is so much opportunity to collect evidence, and the fact that they have so many devices that are intact, they will take those devices apart and they will trace the components back to the guy who built it. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, thank you so much, fascinating stuff. And could this be the end of the line for lawyer to the porn stars Michael Avenatti? A blistering criminal referral against him was just handed to DOJ by Senator Chuck Grassley. Details next. INGRAHAM: A bombshell criminal referral dropped the Senate Judiciary Committee today, calls for a criminal investigation into the accusations against Brett Kavanaugh made by Michael Avenatti and Julie Swetnick. Joining us to discuss the details is FOX News chief national correspondent Ed Henry. Ed, what is the latest tonight? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Laura, good to see you. More trouble for Michael Avenatti, starting with the fact that Senate Judiciary Chair Chuck Grassley is pressing the Justice Department to investigate whether he and his client Julie Swetnick conspired to provide false statements to Congress and tried to obstruct the Senate investigation during that confirmation battle over Justice Kavanaugh. Swetnick alleged without any corroborating evidence that Kavanaugh was involved in gang rapes during high school, but then gave varying accounts. Grassley declaring in the criminal referral to the attorney general Jeff Sessions and the FBI director Chris Wray, quote, "In the heat of partisan moments some do try to knowingly mislead the committee. That's unfair to my colleagues, the nominees, and others providing information who are seeking the truth. It stifles our ability to work on legitimate lines of inquiry. We can't just brush aside potential violations. I don't take lightly making a referral of this nature, but ignoring this behavior will just invite more of it in the future." In a brief interview today with FOX, Avenatti lashed out at Grassley, saying this is clearly political. And then he added this at a news conference in New York. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL AVENATTI, ATTORNEY: We welcome the investigation requested by Senator Grassley who obviously has no idea what he has just done. What he has effectively done now is he has now opened a Pandora's Box. And my client and I are very much looking forward to a full and complete investigation. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: Though now some of the left appear to be turning on Avenatti and his dream of running for president. VanityFair.com running aiece mocked the lawyer for suffering two setbacks this week, one a multimillion dollar judgment for failing to repay a debt to a former colleague, the other a court order evicting him from his Newport Beach offices after not paying rent for four months. "Vanity Fair" declaring, quote, "Both lawsuits suggest a downright Trumpian habit of racking up debts and evading responsibility when the bill came due." And interesting tweets basically attacking Grassley and Kavanaugh from Planned Parenthood Action and NARAL, which put together the same exact statement, declaring, quote, "We still believe Julie Swetnick" # believesurvivors. That led conservative to tweet back, what about believing alleged survivors of rape and sexual assault that have accused Democrats, like Juanita Broaddrick. Laura? INGRAHAM: Thanks so much, Ed. And joining us now is former federal prosecutor John Lauro. John, thanks for being here tonight. You called this referral substantial. Tell us why. JOHN LAURO, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: It reads like a prosecution memo which really lays out a compelling case particularly against Ms. Swetnick. And what Senator Grassley has done, he's very careful, by the way, and very thorough, but he lays out a case where she submitted an affidavit, and I have it here before me, where she makes very specific allegations that Brett Kavanaugh she became aware was involved in spiking punch, was involved in targeting vulnerable women, young women, and actually participating in gang rapes. Now, that's what she submitted under oath, an affidavit. And then later she goes on TV and says, I really don't remember any of that, and thoroughly contradicts her affidavit. So what Grassley says is, listen, you can't submit a sworn statement to my committee and then go on TV and say something that's contradictory to that. That warrants an investigation of perjury and obstruction of justice. And frankly I read it. This is a compelling document. And I think the FBI and the Department of Justice is going to investigate this. INGRAHAM: So John, the statutes involved, a number of them, false statements, 18-USC-1001, 18-USC-1505, obstruction of a Congressional investigation, and then 18-USC-371, it's a conspiracy. Obviously, the two of them working together, there we go, perhaps with others. There might be even more. This is just the very beginning of what we are seeing here. And I think it's really important that Senator Grassley does this, John, because otherwise any nominee who they want to stop, it will just be, oh, I heard this. No, no, I remember this 25 years ago. And oh, yes -- and it's the worst, more horrible accusations, unsubstantiated. Why not? There is no price to be paid? I would go after this Feinstein leak, too. They should do a full and thorough investigation of Feinstein. And some of my friends were saying even some of the accusers in this case. Did Christine Ford tell the truth? I don't know. But a lot of friends of Kavanaugh are very upset about this and think there was a lot of lying going on. LAURO: I couldn't agree more. And what Senator Grassley is saying is you have to have respect for the process. When you submit a sworn affidavit to my committee, I expect it to be truthful. And if it's not then you are going to suffer the penalties under criminal law. The other thing Avenatti refused to do was allow Swetnick to be investigated by the committee, and that very unusual if these allegations had some substance to them. But essentially what Senator Grassley is saying is you can't lie and disrupt corruptly my committee proceedings. And by the way, if that rule of law is not maintained, then the whole process becomes a sham. So he's doing exactly what he needs to do to ensure that justice is done. INGRAHAM: He is a showboating viper, if you ask me. Avenatti on with Kasie Hunt back on September 30th, he was also promising like that going out of business sale on the rug store, the oriental rug store, we're going out of business, we lost our lease, and then it never goes out of business. He is always promising corroborating witnesses and they never occur. Why? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KASIE HUNT: Are you aware of any people or potential witnesses who were at this parties that could corroborate her story? MICHAEL AVENATTI, ATTORNEY: Many. Many. Many witnesses. I have spoken to many witnesses. I have been clear for the last week that there are corroborating witness. We just didn't make this up out of whole cloth. I didn't just reach into the ether to find some woman to sign a false declaration. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Quick final thoughts, John? LAURO: Not one corroborating witness and instead just a baseless accusation that almost destroyed a man's life. INGRAHAM: All right, thanks so much. And John, we really appreciate it. In last night's debate between Andrew Gillum and Ron DeSantis in Florida revealed a troubling truth. When in a jam, Democrats cry racism. Candace Owens explains. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RON DESANTIS, (R) FLORIDA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: The question is, did you pay for the "Hamilton" ticket or did the undercover FBI agent pay for the "Hamilton" ticket? ANDREW GILLUM, (D) FLORIDA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: I'm a hard working person. I know that may not fit your description of what you think people like me do. But I worked hard for everything that I have gotten in my life, and I don't need anybody handing me anything for free. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And that exchange points to what has become an uncomfortable truth for some GOP candidates this cycle. If you criticize a Democrat you might just get tagged a racist. Is an honest debate even still possible? Joining me now with her reaction, Candace Owens who is the communications director for Turning Point USA. Candace, do you see this as a convenient ploy. The left is doing it. Gillum obviously got in a big jam with this potential bribe of a real estate developer. The FBI was clearly surveilling him, and he was willing to take these tickets and other things. That's the question. It has nothing to do with his race and what color skin he has. CANDACE OWENS, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, TURNING POINT USA: I think when the argument is lost they result to ad hominem attacks. And here's what I don't like about this. I feel like it really reinforces the bigotry of low expectations for the black community, meaning apparently we can't win based off of our own merit. We can't win a race based off of our own ideas. So what are we going to do? We're going to cry victim. We're going to say that we are being attacked because of the color of our skin. It's nasty and it's negative and it's pointedly wrong. I also think it's a show of weakness from Andrew Gillum. INGRAHAM: He is the new thing in the Democrat -- he's a new superstar. I think he is trying to be almost an Obama-type figure. He's kind of homespun, he gets on stage. And it's kind of charismatic. OWENS: Right. INGRAHAM: Except when you look at the state of Florida, Tallahassee in particular, Tallahassee is the real problem city. He's been running Tallahassee. And with DeSantis, if we want San Francisco to come to Florida, then yes. But you can't even say that, apparently. OWENS: Right. If you want Venezuela to come to Florida. He is truly pushing a socialist platform right now which should terrify everybody. He thinks I'm going to be able to get away with this because I'm black and I'm willing to throw down the black card. The black card needs to be expired, needs to be ripped up. You win based on good ideas, not because of the color of your skin in this country. INGRAHAM: Candace, you had a really interesting event today with Turning Point. I got to see the pictures that Donny Trump, I think it was Donny Trump, tweeted out tonight. What was going on today? OWENS: We are having a massive young black leadership summit. All conservatives wearing MAGA hats, and the energy in that room, I can't even tell you. It's here. INGRAHAM: I love it. OWENS: You can't stop it. Black America is tired of being the victim that the left uses to gain power in this country. And we are here and showing up, and the president will address us tomorrow. INGRAHAM: Wow, what time is that happening? I didn't' get any invitations. That's great. (LAUGHTER) OWENS: It's 11:00 a.m. And it's going to be at the White House, and I can't wait to hear what he has to say because this crowd is fired up. They're shouting lock her up. It was something to be seen tonight. INGRAHAM: There is not enough media coverage of interesting candidates. There is a Republican Muslim candidate in California who is running, Omar Qudrat. I might be getting his name wrong, but it's a difficult race, but fascinating. Obviously John James running for Senate. John James, unbelievable veteran, incredibly smart, combat pilot. But it's like he doesn't exist. They don't know what to do. OWENS: Because they think there is something proprietary about black people, so when black people deviate, and when I say that I'm referring to the left, when black people deviate from the way that they think we should think they try to ignore us and to shove us under the rug, but I think time's up on that. I'm calling time's up on that. INGRAHAM: What about college campuses? I know Turning Point does an enormous amount to fan out to college campuses. This is something we have needed for so long. We have college conservative newspapers, even those have been under assault. What has been the reaction? I know sometimes you get stuff thrown at you, but it's a badge of honor, as long as it's not going to hurt you or anything. But what has been the reaction among especially minorities students when they talk to you, they see you, they meet you. You are nice. You're fun. OWENS: In the beginning, last semester we were met with so much protesting. The entire game has changed. They are wearing MAGA hats, they are saying thank you. They're jumping up and mocking Beto for pretending to be Hispanic. We have a large Hispanic following. So something is working. They're starting to say. Maybe it's because Kanye West put on the MAGA hat and people are starting to pursue different ideas. But this country is changing, I am telling you. And I say this all the time. Black Americans have nothing to fear when Donald Trump said he is going to make America great. We are Americans too. INGRAHAM: I think you are a weapon, you're a weapon in a good way. And I love it. I just love it. I love what you are doing. Thanks so much for being here. It's great having you in studio. I might crash your event tomorrow. How do drug cartels operate inside caravans like the one we see approaching the U.S. border? Is it really happening? And what connection do they have to international terrorism? A former head of special ops for the DEA is here next. He has some shocking revelations. Stay there. INGRAHAM: The Trump administration has come under fire for calling out the potentially dangerous members of that caravan making its way up through Mexico. There's another one on its way, too. Since drug cartels control the illegal flow of nearly everything moving through Latin America, we want to know how they actually still might be influencing this caravan even though they say there is strength in numbers of people. Joining us is Derek Maltz. He's a former DEA special ops division head. And Derek, we really appreciate you being here. I've been waiting to talk to you. Is a caravan of this size a threat? It's described as this is just a sea of humanity wanting a better life, but what could be embedded in this caravan? DEREK MALTZ, FORMER DEA SPECIAL OPS DIVISION HEAD: We have a national emergency right now, as far as I'm concerned, Laura. First of all, the terrorists are tapping into the criminal networks for funding. That's number one.A Drugs are generating $400 billion a year around the world. And right now we have young kids dying from the poison every single day. We have about every 11 minutes we have somebody dying from an opioid overdose, right. So we have mass amounts of people coming into our country with disease, with crime, with drugs. And you know what, we have to put it to end it. Thank God President Trump has stepped up and has sent the troops down there to kind of help us. Now, 11 years ago, we had a case against a very big arms trafficker. This particular guy wanted to get 100 passports for Middle Easterners. That's 11 years ago. These organizations don't just wait. They actually are planning to get people here in this country to do very bad things. That's the bottom line. INGRAHAM: At one point they found 100 Bangladeshis -- most of those probably wanted work in the country, but they found Bangladeshis, even Somalis in the area where the caravan was gathering. When it's 4,000 people, maybe 5,000 people. That's a lot of people. If everybody at one time is approaching a border checkpoint, some of them will go through the regular port of entry, some will just walk across. But they basically get processed and released into the country after their coached, correct? That's how it happens. MALTZ: Exactly. And you look at El Salvador, you look at Guatemala, you look at Honduras. These are some of the most violent countries in the region. INGRAHAM: That's why they say they want to leave. MALTZ: Right, they want to leave, but they want to come here and they want our taxpayers to pay for their babies, pay for their food, pay for their college. And then all our kids and all the hardworking Americans have to pay the bill. And what about the diseases that are coming in from Africa? What about some of these new TBs and all these different -- INGRAHAM: No one talks about the health implications. The financial implications are enormous. The health implications, I think the media, where is all the investigative reporting on all of these diseases that are just popping up? Kids are being paralyzed for bizarre reasons we don't even know. I am not saying it's immigration. We definitely have a TB problem. We also have Chagas disease, all sorts of other things. Chris Cuomo claimed that the border wall will not stop the cartels. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: I have had the unfortunate pleasure of spending way too much time south of the border covering the drug cartels. You have not. So let me tell you how it works down there largely. Tunnels, OK. They also use planes. They also use huge cargo containers. So the idea you are a wall away from stopping the drug problem is also untrue. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What is your view on that? MALTZ: My view is that the wall alone is not going to stop the drug cartels. They are a business enterprise that wants to make money. They are going to figure out ways to get the stuff into the country. They have tunnels. Chapo Guzman and Sinaloa Cartel was building tunnels many, many years ago. But if there's a wall that they climb over or can't drive a car over, we are going to be able to prevent them from getting into this country like they are right now. Go talk to the farmers, Chris Cuomo, the border, go talk to the people that are on the border and these people are coming onto their property with weapons. And it's just like a free-for-all on our border. So the wall is definitely going to help but it's not alone going to solve the problem. INGRAHAM: It's a slow it down, slow it down deal. It's great having you on. Come back soon. MALTZ: Thank you. Any time. INGRAHAM: And thanks for your service to this country. We'll be right back. MALTZ: Thank you very much. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. Today's news about Michael Avenatti, Julie Swetnick reminding us about an interview we had with Swetnick's ex, about three weeks ago. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Did she ever discuss with you in your seven-year relationship, it was from 1994 to 2001, the issue of sexual assault, or did she mention even having been sexually assaulted? RICHARD VINNECCY, JULIE SWETNICK'S EX-BOYFRIEND: Never, never, once she mentioned that to me. If I know -- if anybody knows Julie Swetnick, I know. She is -- if you ask me, personally, if I believe her, I don't believe her. INGRAHAM: That's all right. Michael Avenatti is going to fix the whole thing. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team, take it from here. Shannon, who are you rooting for in the series? Who are you rooting for? 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We need you to watch the show for the entire hour tonight. Now, tonight, many Americans are on high alert after a series of suspected mail bombs were sent to several prominent Democrats all across the country. At this hour, nobody knows who is responsible. Let me be clear and let me reiterate what I've been saying know for a month on this program -- so many times, violence, threats, intimidation, it has no place in this country. We are the United States of America. We solve our political differences, which are very acute at this moment, at the ballot box. That would be 13 days from now without bloodshed. Now, the disturbed individual responsible must be held accountable. And with that said tonight, sadly, we have so many people on the left and in the mainstream media all day rushing to judgment as usual to score cheap political points. Many are actually blaming the president, Fox News, talk radio, yours truly. It's a disgrace when just the opposite is true and we are going to respond to this slander on this program tonight. We'll also point out how Democrats after weeks of literally calling for incivility and kicking and, you know, getting in people's faces and following them telling them you are not wanted anywhere anymore, all of a sudden, are pretending to be the party of peace. This is hypocrisy at its worst. We'll expose this massive double standard. We'll show you the political environment that many that are complaining today, they themselves fostered into the lead up into these important midterm elections. So, sit tight, buckle up, we need the full hour tonight. A lot of ground to cover. We start with our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Tonight, we have some very disturbing news. Manila envelopes each containing crude looking pipe bombs targeted several high-profile Democrats all over the country. Now, these packages were addressed to former President Obama, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder, George Soros and reportedly even Maxine Waters. The other package intended for CIA Director John Brennan was addressed to CNN's headquarters in New York. All the packages listed Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz in the return address. Thankfully, none of these devices exploded and no one was injured. And at this hour, a full-scale federal investigation is on to hunt down whatever maniac would be responsible for what is a despicable act. Now, you have heard me say over and over and over on the show, but I will repeat it one more time, violence, threats, intimidation, has no place in politics, no place in this country. And what we saw today was the work of pure evil. This is an act of terror and I feel terrible for anybody who was threatened today. It's wrong, period. Now, I have had many, many threats myself over the years. I've had white powder sent to my office. One of my employees spend, what, nine hours in isolation and things even far worse than that but I'm not going to talk about. My heart goes out to anyone ever threatened, anybody today, anybody tonight. No conservative that I know and would ever support -- would ever support this horrible act. No matter how strongly you disagree with some of these beliefs, everyone in this country deserves safety and security. I've said that throughout my career. Earlier today, President Trump immediately condemned this reprehensible act. Here's what he said. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The safety of the American people is my highest and absolute priority. The full weight of our government is being deployed to conduct this investigation and bring those responsible for these despicable acts to justice. We will spare no resources or expense in this effort. And I just want to tell you that in these times, we have to unify. We have to come together and send one very clear, strong, unmistakable message that acts or threats of political violence of any kind have no place in the United States of America. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No place in this country. The president's right. Despite not knowing who was responsible for these mail bombs today, we had so many people rushing to judgment -- the media, the left, Democrats, all trying to score cheap political points and a political victory on this. All day as this story was unfolding, they have no facts, immediately assigning blame to their political rivals, especially President Trump. In a joint statement, even Schumer and Pelosi saying President Trump's words ring hollow until he reverses his statements that condone acts of violence. CNN's fake news president Jeff Zucker, he's blaming Donald Trump. There is a complete lack of understanding at the White House about the seriousness of their continued attacks on the media. Even when they lie, you are not allowed to call out lies? Blaming the president for an act of violence from an unknown perpetrator seems beyond shameful that a network that claims to put facts first. And, of course, anti-Trump vitriol continued every minute, every hour, every second of the entire day. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's remember, we have a president who has talked for a couple of years now about imprisoning his political rival in Hillary Clinton who has encouraged violence against the media. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The president and his allies, they need to dial down the political rhetoric. They are making people less safe. They are making journalists less safe. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is hard to suspend relief and not see the context of what is occurring today with the president who was repeatedly suggested that the press is the enemy of the people. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are in an era now where violence seems to have licensed by the president of the United States. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you look at who they've targeted so far it's almost like they are following Donald Trump's Twitter feed. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: FOX News hasn't gotten a bomb yet. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Words are words. The president was not the only target of the blame game by the left-wing media trying to score political points. FOX News, talk radio, yours truly, were actually vilified. One particularly uninformed leftist pretending to be a reporter at NBC tweeting, quote: There will be a rush to pin these mail bombs on extremists. Talking points from fringe websites and communities on Facebook and Reddit it and so on, but George Soros, Obama and the Clintons have been viewed at the root of all the evil on talk radio and FOX News for over a decade. Now, before this abject idiot tries to blame me, FOX News talk radio for the acts of clearly disturbed individual who we don't know who it is yet, maybe they should watch an episode of the show or listen to my radio show because night after night, for a month, I have called for calm. I have condemned these confrontations, these, these mobs, these violent acts on the left and right. I don't assign blame based on political expediency is clearly you and your colleagues are. One of Bernie Sanders supporters -- remember, we all watched tried to assassinate Republican lawmakers on a baseball field, nearly successfully killing someone that I like personally and consider a friend, House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, I didn't blame Bernie Sanders, nor should anybody have blamed Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders didn't tell that evil maniac to kill Republicans. You might remember this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I'm not blaming Bernie Sanders and Bernie Sanders supporters. This was one nut. Remember the Bernie Sanders supporter, the one that targeted Republicans at a baseball practice, leaving Congressman Steve Scalise fighting for his life? Well, was the media blaming Democrats for that? No. And, by the way, they shouldn't have and I don't blame Bernie either. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I -- nobody should have blamed Bernie. Political disagreements, even political battle in back-and-forth, they're not supposed to be marching orders for deranged individuals. President Trump, this show, when we rightly call out and expose the left for their hypocrisy, and we will do more of it in a minute, or deep state corruption or the fake news media for reporting fake news almost every night, that's not inciting violence, I'm saying just the opposite. This is about going to the ballot box. That's where we settle our political differences. I didn't love it that Obama won twice, I didn't like it at all, but America goes on and I said many times during his presidency, we've got to protect our president. Now, the same goes for anyone in the mainstream media, including those who trashed Trump supporters and Democrats, or who bashed conservatives day after day, night after night, 24/7. There's hardly a word in the dictionary if it's negative that I haven't been called at some point in my career, or that they haven't used against the president. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The mobs that I see are the people that go to Trump rallies and laugh when Donald Trump mimics the testimony of an alleged victim of sexual assault. The mobs I see are the people who cheer when Donald Trump trots out the word "I'm a nationalist" and tells people to ignore the negative connotations, the lessons of history of what that's associated with. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He knows that in America, the work nationalist usually follows the word white -- white nationalist. That's what it meant in the 21st century. Trump voters understand. David Duke understands that Donald Trump has to leave the word white out of his use of the work nationalist. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You hold down the woman while the rapist is rating her and you didn't do it to her, are you a rapist? I mean, let's just really - - let's cut the B.S. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tens of millions of people voted for him after he showed his heart for years. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you suggesting that they are racist? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes! UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The people, all the people who voted for Donald Trump are racist? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No longer say Trump's the bad guy. If you vote for Trump, you are the bad guy. If you vote for Trump, you are ripping children from parents' arms. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, while I deplore that kind of rhetoric, the left is not responsible for the sad actions of a lunatic. Now, sadly, there are crazy deranged people from all backgrounds, all political points of view. Recently, Republican senator, remember Susan Collins? She was the target when a suspicious package reportedly containing ricin was sent to her home three weeks ago, packages were sent to President Trump, General Mattis, FBI Director Wray, CIA Director Gina Haspel allegedly having ricin in them. Another suspicious parcel targeted Donald Trump Jr. and his family. His wife went to the hospital. Today, Don Jr. tweeted, quote, as someone whose family has directly been the victim of these threats, I condemned whoever did this, regardless of party or ideology. This crap has to stop and I hope they end up in jail for a long time. Amen, so do I, because I know from personal first-hand experience it is a horrible thing to go through. What's happening to many people tonight, it has happened sadly many times to me in my career. We have been saying for months that the rhetoric we are seeing, the mobs we are seeing in this country that everybody needs to calm down. Rand Paul said it, I've said it -- before someone gets hurt or worse. I've been saying it nightly. Recently, we reported that Republican Congressman Kevin McCarthy's office, well, they threw a boulder through the window. And night after night, we show you, what, disturbing videos, Republicans stalked, harassed, kicked out of restaurants and worse with kids and children even involved. Take a look. (VIDEO CLIP PLAYS) HANNITY: Now, while we on this program have been constantly now condemning this unacceptable behavior night after night, Democrats, the liberal media, they are nowhere to be found. They have been silent. They've been missing in action when women are kicked out of restaurants with their kids and at a movie theaters, and Senator Cruz can eat dinner with his wife Heidi and we saw what happened this weekend, Henry Kissinger and Mitch McConnell. And the media and fake news CNN even lectured us you can't call that a mob. CNN literally said you can't call it a mob. Meanwhile, the rhetoric from the left constantly is demonizing their political opponents. They need a big fat mirror of themselves tonight to look at how they say things. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ELLEN DEGENERES, TV HOST: If you had to be stuck on an elevator with either President Trump, Mike Pence or Jeff Sessions, who would it be? (LAUGHTER) SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: Does one of us have to come out alive? (LAUGHTER) SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: Please don't just come here today and then go home. Go to the Hill today. Get up and please get up in the face of some Congress people. ERIC HOLDER, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL: Michelle always says that, you know, when they go low, we go high. No. No. When they go low, we kick them. JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: The press always asks me don't I wish I were debating him? No, I wish we were in high school so I could take in behind the gym. That's what I wish. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Remember Madonna? I think an awful lot of blowing up the White House or holding up severed heads of the president of the United States. Oh, I didn't see a whole lot of criticism of the left. A little, not a lot. Yesterday, former VP Joe Biden even compared the president to George Wallace. Today, he's singing a much different to them tweeting: This country has got to come together. Oh, OK, crazy Uncle Joe. You can't go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have an Indian accent. You know, really, we got a lecture from Joe Biden, crazy Uncle Joe? And this is true of many Democrats. Remember Hillary Clinton, what did she say? We can't be civil with Republicans, remember this? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON (D), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. That's why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and/or the Senate, that's when civility can start again. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh, today, now she's singing a different tune after actual criminal acts against Democrats, only if it happens against Democrats. I'm beginning to catch on here. Now, she's calling for us all to come together. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CLINTON: It is a troubling time, isn't it? And it's a time of deep division and we have to do everything we can to bring our country together. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Really? You said we couldn't be civil. Oh, that was last week. Oh, I understand how that works. We can't, of course, forget about Congresswoman Maxine Waters repeatedly calling for Republicans could be stalked, harassed, confronted and grocery stores, department stores, gas stations, tell them they are not wanted anywhere anymore. That was a couple of weeks ago. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEOI CLIP) SEN. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: You have members of your cabinet that are being booed out of restaurants. (CHEERS) Who have protesters taking up at their house who are saying, "No peace, no sleep." And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them, and you tell them that they are not welcome anymore, anywhere. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: They are not welcome anywhere anymore. Oh, that was then. That was a couple of weeks ago. Now, Congresswoman Waters issued a statement today that reads: I unequivocally condemn any and all acts of violence and terror. What happened to get a crowd, followed them into department stores, grocery stores, gas stations, tell them they are not wanted anywhere anymore? All these networks all day, selective moral outrage, they have been dead silent in the lead up to today, frankly complicity in giving her and all of these people on the left a pass and many of them themselves using incendiary rhetoric. The greatest hypocrisy of all. Today, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. Remember when he said this about conservatives living in New York if they are pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, this is what he says. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D), NEW YORK: Who are they? Are they these extreme conservative who are right to life? Pro assault weapon, anti-gay? Is that who they are? Because if that's who they are and if they are the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of New York, because that's not who New Yorkers are. (END AUDIO CLIP) HANNITY: No place in New York if you're pro-life, pro-Second Amendment. Anyway, he's calling for civility today. Wow. The champion of civility. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CUOMO: -- is overheated rhetoric, extremism that pushes people to violence. And at the end of the day, we may have political differences, but this is one country, we're all Americans, e pluribus unum, out of many one, and keeping the debate and the dialogue civil is very, very important and for elected leaders who in many ways set the tone, it is especially important. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: E pluribus unum, except if you're pro-life and believe in the Second Amendment. What you just saw it as a sad pathetic double standard in the Democratic Party. This is what I call phony selective moral outrage. False play. We see it over and over again. So quick to call for unity when Democrats are targeted, but when Republicans are threatened, as they have been for weeks and weeks, they've been silent. They obsess about Trump, Russia collusion, no evidence, but they ignore Hillary Clinton purchasing dirty Russian lies and disseminating them to the American people to steal an election. Bought and paid for Russian lies. That's ignored by the same media. On the topic of sexual assault, they want a seventh FBI investigation into Brett Kavanaugh. It's called the Kavanaugh treatment. But they are silent, totally silent, the same people, missing in action with all the allegations against Keith Ellison. They love Bill Clinton, Spartacus Cory Booker and others. The Democrats silence when Sarah Sanders, Pam Bondi, Kirstjen Nielsen are harassed and ran out of restaurants. Ted Cruz ran out of a restaurant with his wife. Mitch McConnell, a guy banging on his table this weekend. Rocks being thrown through Kevin McCarthy's office window. Violence, threats, intimidation, harassment. Let me tell you what it is, it's unacceptable for anybody, but the left has been silent. We've been outspoken. There is pure or outright hypocrisy they only seem to care when it's against members on the other side of the aisle, only when they can use it to attack President Trump and bludgeon him. Now, hopefully today, hopefully people are beginning to realize what I have been saying, what Rand Paul has been saying -- the political climate in this country is getting dangerous. Somebody's going to get killed or worse. We don't want that to happen to anybody. Democrats, fake news CNN, others, they all could have spoken out when something like, you know, today's bomb scare happens. They should, but they should have also been denouncing all the incivility, all the kick `em, all the follow them into stores, they are not wanted here anywhere anymore. And this is what matters: in 13 days, we solve our differences at the ballot box. I'm willing to accept that my side can lose. You have an opportunity. We have an opportunity to settle disagreements there. But even after 2016, they wanted to undo an election. We saw all the corruption and laws broken in the aftermath of the 2016 election. The survival of our constitutional republic depends on law and order, equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws. We must protect the safety of every American. OK, I'm all for civility. I really don't mind a good verbal debate with people. And I don't care if people call me names. No matter what the differences are. And so -- but we need to watch how bad this is gotten, and before somebody gets seriously hurt or worse. I pray that doesn't happen. Now, when we come back, Eric Trump, his entire family has gone through more than anybody could imagine as it relates to this. We'll talk to him. We'll talk to Newt Gingrich, Michelle Malkin. Stay with us. A lot to get you on this busy news night. We are glad you chose FOX. HANNITY: And as we've seen all day, the despicable threats against Democratic politicians. This is very dangerous. We've got to make sure the American people are safe and secure. It should have been condemned by all Americans, if the right thing to do. Donald Trump Jr. tweeting today: As someone's family has directly been the victim of these mail threats, I condemn whoever did this regardless of party or ideology. This crap has to stop. I hope they end up in jail for a long time. Joining us now with reaction from the Trump Organization, the son of the president, Eric Trump, is with us. You know, it really does bring into focus Madonna -- I dream an awful lot about blowing up the White House. It really does bring into focus the things that have been said about you, about your entire family, a severed head of your father. Listen, your father is outspoken, iconoclastic and he fights for what he wants and he shakes people up. Very different from what Maxine Waters has been doing or the month-long getting in people's faces and confrontations with women and children, though. ERIC TRUMP, SON OF PRESIDENT TRUMP: No question about it. It's very different than Eric Holder. I mean, I thought your opening monologue was beautiful. And, Sean, these people should be hunted down and they should be thrown in jail for a very, very long time. It's that simple. It doesn't matter which party it is. Hey, last year, I had white powder sent to my help. Don had white powders into his house. The white powder literally blew up in my wife's face, right, and the FBI and the Secret Service, they caught the guy and they threw him in jail. They need to do the exact same thing to this person. They need to hunt this person down, they need to throw the person in jail, and they need to throw away the key because honestly the lack of civility is unreal. This isn't the country we are, this isn't who we are. There are many Democrats who are -- you know, and Republicans, they are all great people. The vast, vast majority of people are great people. They don't want this nonsense. This isn't right. HANNITY: You know, I've watched the horrible things said about your sister. I've watched what your younger brother Barron has had to go through. I watched the most vile things said about Melania, who was a wonderful woman, I've gotten to know her personally. Forget about the president. We're -- he's in the arena. Like you had white powder sent to me and other threats far worse than that. And I really sympathize with what these people and organizations are going through today because I've been there. But the reality is most of them have been silent with Maxine Waters in the lead up to this and Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen, Sarah Sanders, Ted Cruz and his wife. Henry Kissinger, Mitch McConnell, four instances for him. And the latest weekend, Kevin McCarthy having a boulder thrown through his office window. They've been virtually silent on his instances. TRUMP: Not to mention pickup trucks that are being torched in parking lots at rallies and so many other things. I mean, how hard is it just to say that this is not right? That everybody condemns this regardless of what political side you're on? Everybody condemns it and these people deserve to be in jail for a very long time and this doesn't represent the political party. I mean, how hard is that to say? You know, you see some of the kind of diatribes the CNN went on today and some of the other news networks went on today and it just further deepens the divide that this has nothing to do with the good people of this country. HANNITY: You know, and it's funny, they are so upset that your dad, I believe rightfully, calls out fake news. We have watched through almost two years, beyond two years if you take the election into account that every second, every minute, every hour of every day. They just trash your father, say anything they want to say. And then when they get called out -- for example they always give Hillary a pass. They gave Obama a pass. They are attacking your father with conspiracy theories and lies about Russian for two years and they are wrong. Your dad calls them out for being fake and they are and somehow they're going to equate that to a call for violence? That is total B.S. and they've got to know that. TRUMP: There's no question about it. I mean, they are all for the First Amendment until you say something that they disagree with and then there are no longer for the First Amendment. It's why Twitter, it's why social, it's why these rallies -- I mean, I was in Houston the other day, my father 22,000 people in the audience, he had 50,000 people outside. It's why it's been such a powerful tool for him, because he can talk to the American people and he can cut through the nonsense. And think about the media, Sean. You know this better than any human being in the world. But it's controlled by a very small group of elitists. They don't like him, they don't like his message. They got it wrong. They never said he could win. They didn't think he could win. They gave him at one point, in terms of the New York Times they give him a 1.9 percent chance of winning on election day and now they're doubling down and they're doubling down again. And so, if that hypocrisy. I mean, they don't want my father to be right, you know. They want to do anything they can to use anything against my father. And, Sean, I say this all the time, they are going to get it wrong again. I mean, they're absolutely going to get it wrong again. HANNITY: What's your take on the midterm? I see Republicans, I believe they'll hold the Senate. It's a harder read in the House. I do believe that everything is in play and it's all going to be about turnout. TRUMP: It is about turnout. And if the army of Trump gets out there we will win. If people are complacent and they stay at home I don't think we will, right? I mean, the army of Trump has to get out and I hear all the time, Sean, well, my guy is Trump, why guy is not on the ballot. I go you can't think that way, you have to get out, you have to vote. If you are not voting Republican, if you are not voting Republican you effectively voting against my father and you have to get out. I mean, the country is doing so well, our economy is doing well. I mean, it's just-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We know what the Pelosi agenda is. They want to impeach your dad. They want to keep Obamacare, a disaster, they want their crumbs back. TRUMP: Sure. HANNITY: They want open borders. And you know-- (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: And they want to double your taxes, Sean. They want to double your taxes and they want to fight law enforcement, they want to abolish ICE and they want to do so many other things. This country is on fire. It is doing so well and we have to keep Republicans in power. HANNITY: You know, it's a weird position to be in that they almost have to cheer for America to do as bad as we did in the Obama years so they can get their power back and it's just the opposite has happened. We had two years of amazing prosperity. What I'm arguing, Eric, is if you vote for any Democrat in any district in the House, you are voting for Pelosi. You don't show up, that's a half a vote for Pelosi and if you vote for any Democratic senator you might as well vote for Chuck Schumer because that's what you're getting. TRUMP: Yes. That's 100 percent right. I mean, they would rather see America fail than my father succeeds. I've said that for years. They would rather see America fail than my father succeeds. HANNITY: It's sad. TRUMP: Republicans have to get out there, you have to vote and you have to keep on winning for this country. HANNITY: Thirteen days from tonight we will be giving out the results right here on the Fox News Channel. All right. Eric, good to see you. Thank you. When we come back, Ed Henry will have the latest on the investigation into today's mail bomb scare. Also, Newt Gingrich, he will weigh in on all of tonight's breaking news. Also, later, Michelle Malkin. Stay with us, we got a lot of news to get to. HANNITY: Joining us now with the very latest on the bomb scare from earlier today, Fox News chief national correspondent, Ed Henry is with us. Ed, what's going on? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Sean, great to see you. In fact, breaking in the last few moments the FBI has confirmed that a second suspicious package was sent to Democratic Congresswoman Maxine Waters out in California. They caught it actually before it ever reached her office. It's at a mail sorting facility in downtown Los Angeles that at this hour has been evacuated as they try to get to the bottom of it. All of this coming as the president bows tonight the full weight of the federal government will be coming down hard on the suspect or suspects declaring the safety of the American people is his highest priority. The president saying no expense will be spared to get to the bottom of this. Multiple law enforcement agencies on a manhunt tonight to get to the bottom of this. Now the Secret Service is the usual male screening procedures block a suspicious package from being delivered to the New York home of former President Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. That kind of started all this off. A nearly identical package had been addressed to the Washington, D.C., home of former President Barack Obama and Michelle Obama. Nobody heard but officials say there appeared to be live explosive devices so the NYPD immediately started taking more proactive steps. Then this morning CNN's New York bureau, all the surrounding residences, offices, restaurants, businesses at Columbus circle in Manhattan evacuated after being targeted with a similar package. A federal law enforcement official telling Fox tonight that there are several similarities to a device recovered Monday at the home of billionaire Democratic donor George Soros. The working theory at this hour is that an individual or group is behind all of the packages. The package that was sent to CNN's mailroom you can see had excessive postage and packaging, all red flags and the fact that the stamps were licked also point to likely DNA that will be corrected. The president jumping on this today. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We are extremely angry and upset, unhappy about what we witnessed this morning and we will get to the bottom of it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: Now while officials have not been able to figure out a motive I mentioned Democratic Maxine Waters said today that she was targeted. There was a second package that was sent to her. So with all of the targets being individuals or groups that the president has attacked verbally Democrats are already trying to point the finger of blame at the White House. Rush Limbaugh suggesting today these attacks were actually false flags by the left trying to frame the president essentially while Hillary Clinton called today for the country to come together. Remember, earlier this month she said Democrats should not be civil with a party that she said was trying to tear away which she cares about, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Ed Henry in Washington tonight. Joining us now with reaction, author of the bestseller, "Trump's America: The Truth About Our Nation's Great Comeback," former Speaker of the House, Fox News contributor, Newt Gingrich. We are seeing, Mr. Speaker that it seems the left -- if it's about Russia collusion, it doesn't matter, only if a Trump collusion. Not Hillary paying for Russian lies. If it's about sexual assault or harassment it's only if it's Kavanaugh or hurt the Republicans but not if it's Keith Ellison or maybe Cory Booker, an allegation against him. You know, in this particular case all the outrageous rhetoric and conduct we've witnessed over the last month and since Trump has been president, I think a lot about blowing up the White House, et cetera. Severed heads. It seems that they only care if it's against them and not Republicans or the president. Do you see that same pattern? NEWT GINGRICH, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, sure the patterns -- I thought Eric Trump was close to perfect in the way he outlined the situation. Look, we believe in the rule of law. We believe in the rule of law at the border, which is where we are concerned about the caravans. We believe in the rule of law in terms of our internal politics. Anyone who engages in an effort to use violence in this kind of a setting should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. We have to send a signal to every crazy person who's out there and every extremist on both sides that this is not tolerable. I don't care who your target, whether it's Steve Scalise home of Republican whip who was shot or whether it's somebody getting a bomb in their home. We have to come together as a country and say we are going to have huge fights of a policy but we are not going to tolerate lawbreakers, starting with people who literally threaten the lives of other people. And I think whoever is doing this, the president is exactly right. We have to track them down, lock them up, and we frankly should make an example of them. They should have maximum penalty under the law-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But we've seen the build up to this-- GINGRICH: -- to send a signal. HANNITY: We've seen the rhetoric, Maxine Waters and so many others. And we've seen all the confrontations. People run out of restaurants. You know, women run out of restaurants. We saw what happened to Kevin McCarthy and Ted Cruz and his wife. Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen, Sarah Sanders. You don't see the same intensity if it's a Republican. GINGRICH: No, because the elite media doesn't feel the same affections. But I would make the same argument. I think somebody who trespasses in a restaurant as they did against Mitch McConnell and his wife, Elaine Chao, they should be prosecuted for trespass to the fullest extent of the local law. I think somebody who -- the people who went after Kevin McCarthy should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. We have to reassert that the rule of law is paramount, it's what makes us the most unique country in the world and people can have strong language. They cannot have strong actions. And I think we cannot tolerate the stuff-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But we can't have as people saying if you see them, you follow them into department stores and restaurants and grocery stores and you tell them they are wanted anywhere anymore. That's what we've been hearing. GINGRICH: Look, I think is perfectly appropriate to say to Maxine Waters are you prepared to admit that what you said was wrong, to say to Hillary Clinton about the comment the other day out, are you prepared to admit that that was wrong? To say to the former attorney general who said kick them when they're down. Are you prepared to say that's wrong? I'm all for that. HANNITY: Yes. GINGRICH: But I'm also for establishing a really life and death decision - - and by the way, this is exactly why I feel so strongly about the border. We have to reassert the rule of law in this country. We have to mean it and we have to go after people who violate it. HANNITY: Mr. Speaker, you said this election, 13 days, two weeks from tonight people will be, people will be watching the results come in. I'm sure many in this audience don't want to hear the word speaker-elect Pelosi or Senate majority-elect Schumer. You've been saying it's about Kavanaugh, caravan. I would add to that also about mobs that we've been witnessing and I'd add one other thing, are you better off than you were two years ago? Because by every objective measure we are better off economically and security wise. GINGRICH: Look, I think the theme of jobs not mobs is a good one. I want to give you a surprising idea. We are more likely to have 57 Republican senators than we ought to have Schumer as the majority leader. That's how big the opportunity is. HANNITY: You are confident. I'm less confident about the House 13 days out. Why are you confident? GINGRICH: Well, I'm very confident about the Senate. I think the Senate, basically, Mitch McConnell is going to be the leader. The House is still a fight. I like what Kevin McCarthy has done. I like his proposal to have a vote on strengthening the border. I think that every single day I watch we get better, we get stronger. Barbara Comstock is now stronger in Northern Virginia than she was a week ago. I see this everywhere I turn around the country. We are gaining ground. People are coming home, and frankly, a lot of folks who weren't sure are looking at things like 7,000 people in the caravan coming north to try to attack the United States-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's up to 14. GINGRICH: -- and they are deciding that the Democrats are just plain wrong. HANNITY: If we think about this, Mr. Speaker, if we actually had the wall built we wouldn't have this issue. On either side. GINGRICH: Sure. HANNITY: You know, all right. Mr. Speaker-- (CROSSTALK) GINGRICH: Look, a speaker-- HANNITY: Two weeks from tonight we'll be talking about those results. You either going to have a total victory, maybe split decision, or you are not going to be happy. The American people have the power to shock the world again. All right. When we come back, speaking of that migrant caravan, now as it grows to 14,000, making its way through Mexico and towards the U.S., Sara Carter was down and just returned from Guatemala. She will join us with Michelle Malkin. That's next. Stay with us. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) D. TRUMP: When our country is assaulted by thousands and thousands of people marching and they openly say we are going to go into the country, we can't do that. We can't do that. Can't allow that. It's unfair to you, but it's also unfair to thousands and thousands of people that have gone through a legal process, some are waiting in line 10 years. Everything is perfect and they don't get in but other people just march right in. It will not happen, you watch. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. That was the president tonight in Wisconsin continuing to stress our border security. Joining us now with reaction, CRTV host, award-winning show, Michelle Malkin Investigates, Michelle Malkin, Fox News contributor Sara Carter. She just returned from the caravan in Guatemala. You were reporting last night, Sara, that in fact you did see MS-13 gang members infiltrating this caravan in spite of people saying no. How do you know they were MS-13 and what else did you see? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, some of the people within the caravan were actually tattooed with MS-13 markings. They were-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, that would pretty much give it away I think, yes. That will do it. CARTER: That would give it away. Yes. It wasn't the majority of people, though, Sean. But what I can tell you was that the majority of people that were in the caravan and the people I interviewed on the ground there were men. There were a few hundred women. This was the tip of the spear as I call it on the border of Honduras and Guatemala when the second big wave came through. So, I was right there as the second big wave crossed into Chiquimulilla, Guatemala and they were making their way through Guatemala, through the migration services as well as the Guatemalan defense personnel that were on the ground and law enforcement. There was little they could do. Guatemala, El Salvador, and Nicaragua have basically a system set up like the European Union where people with papers can travel back and forth freely. One of the things the Guatemalan government did do while I was down there was tell a number of the people look, we have buses, the United States is not going to let you in. You are in for a treacherous track to the U.S. It could be extraordinarily dangerous to your children, to the few children that were there. But the men that were there appeared to be well coordinated, organized. HANNITY: Yes. CARTER: According to Guatemalan intelligence this was an organized effort coming out of Honduras to move people through to the U.S. border and now we know it's about 14,000 people that are heading that way. HANNITY: Well, the scary thing is -- Michelle, you wrote a book, I don't remember what the year was but it was called "Invasion." MICHELLE MALKIN, HOST, CRTV: Yes. HANNITY: They get to this border. If there is any crisis at our border we have laws, we are a constitutional republic. We have -- we need border security. If we had the wall up we wouldn't have this problem. MALKIN: That's right. HANNITY: I'm praying Mexico does their job. It's their job now to send them back. MALKIN: It is. And I wrote "Invasion" in 2002. So, little has changed and the manufactured migratory chaos that we are seeing is a result of many factors and a lot of it is malfeasance on the part of certain governments and it is good to hear that at least Guatemala is making some effort. We will see what Mexico is going to do. The thing is if you read the Mexican Constitution and you know anything about their own immigration policies, in theory at least-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They put you in jail and then they send you home immediately and then they lecture us that we are not being nice. MALKIN: Exactly. Exactly. And its hypocrisy, isn't it. I think that it does behoove us to remind everybody as President Trumpet did, that this is not just a national security issue. This is not just a matter of rule of law invoking article four section four of the Constitution which says it is the obligation of the federal government to protect each and every one of the states against, what, invasion. That's why I named my book "Invasion" 16 years ago. But also, an issue of justice and equity. And I'm so glad that President Trump speaks up for all of the families here and around the world that follow the rule of law in order to honor that country that we all have benefited from. My family is that-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Sara-- MALKIN: -- the American dream. HANNITY: We run out of time. MALKIN: And we want to protect the brothers who follow the law. HANNITY: How long will it take them to walk to the United States? Because I hear Mexico is shutting down all public transportation. CARTER: That's tight. It's going to take them sometime. I'm hearing from weeks to four weeks to get there for the first wave to actually arrive. Remember, Sean, they are actually coming through with drug traffickers, they are putting their people in as well. So, this is swelling in Mexico as well. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We can't let that happen. CARTER: That's what's happening. HANNITY: Sara, Michelle, thank you both. More HANNITY right after this. HANNITY: All right. Thirteen days from tonight, you have a choice. In the House, if you don't vote for a Republican, that's a half a vote for Pelosi. If you vote for the Democrat, left a full vote for Pelosi. Thirteen days from now we'll be talking about the results. In all these Senate races a vote for any Democrat is a vote for Schumer. By the way Joe Manchin is down too in West Virginia. Well, all those breaking news tomorrow. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is standing by. She is in the sewer, the swamp, known as D.C. Load-Date: October 25, 2018 End of Document Democrats target of suspicious packages with pipe bombs inside. The FBI is already investigating the packages sent to Obama, Hillary Clinton and John Brennan; The Democrats are blaming President Trump over the bomb threats; Andrew Gillum, Beto O'Rourke, and Stacy Abrams being embroiled because of their past actions like accepting gifts, flag burning, and driving drunk Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 24, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7562 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Catherine Herridge, Rick Crawford, Jimmie Oxley, Dan Bonggino Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: We will have all those new breaking news tomorrow. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is standing by. She is in the sewer, the swamp known as D.C. tonight. Hi. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hey Sean. Great to see you. Fantastic show, double standard. (Inaudible) of that develop, and horrific stuff. Anyone using the U.S. mail or any of the means -- HANNITY: Let's keep everybody safe. How about this, people can say what they want, leave people alone in restaurants and grocery stores and then (inaudible) -- fight at the ballot box. Vote for whoever you want. I hope it's Republican, but vote for who you want. INGRAHAM: Amen. Sean, great show tonight. HANNITY: Have a good show. INGRAHAM: I'm Laura Ingraham. This is "The Ingraham Angle" from Washington and this is a Fox News alert. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Those engaged in the political arena must stop treating political opponents as being morally defective. You have to do that. The language of moral condemnation and destructive routine, these are arguments and disagreements that have to stop. No one should carelessly compare political opponents to historical villains, which is done often, and it's done all the time. It's got to stop. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was President Trump earlier tonight addressing the news of explosive devices sent to the homes or offices of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder, George Soros and Maxine Waters, and one that was addressed to John Brennan but ended up somehow at CNN. Now, we still don't know anything about who is behind these undetonated bombs or what their possible motives could be? But of course that didn't stop the media from cracking the case. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you look at who they targeted so far, it's almost like they are following Donald Trump's twitter feed. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, we are in an era now where violence seems to have a license by the president of the United States. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But the president certainly has encouraged this kind of rhetoric. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is what happens when the president calls you the enemy of the people. Why did CNN get the bomb? (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Fox news hasn't gotten a bomb yet. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It sounds almost like wish casting there, Sunny. Well, look, this might be politically motivated. After all, only Democrats received the packages. But let's not go pointing fingers until we have all the details. Now what exactly do we know tonight? We thought we would go actually to people who report and who know something. Fox News chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge is here. Catherine, where are we at this hour? CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CHIEF INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: Well, thanks Laura. Within the lat hour the FBI confirming two more packages, both addressed to Congresswoman Maxine Waters bringing the total tonight to seven. Earlier today, FBI Director Christopher Wray issued this statement asking for the public's help saying, no piece of information is too small and warning that more packages may be out there. Director Wray said each package used the large Manila envelope with bubble wrap, six forever stamps with the same return address using the wrong spelling for Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz as well as computer printed address labels. A former federal investigator tells Fox that such printers can embed identification codes into the actual print that can link the packages and in some cases trace the printer. As you mentioned, the first package to billionaire and Democrat donor George Soros arrived on Monday followed by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, former president Barack Obama, former CIA director John Brennan that was delivered to CNN, and former Attorney General Eric Holder. The Secret Service confirmed its routine mail screening intercepted both of the packages and they are working directly tonight with the FBI, ATF and the postal inspectors as part of the JTTF, that's the Joint Terrorism Task Force. In his first public comment after the bomb scare, Brennan told an audience in Texas that President Trump was to blame for the political climate. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: Trump too often has help to incite some of these feelings of anger, if not violence, when he points to acts of violence or also talks about, you know, swinging at somebody from the press. (END VIDEO CLIP HERRIDEG: And Brennan said he hoped the president's statement condemning the pipe bombs marked a turning point. It's important to note that no suspect, no motive or political agenda has been publicly linked by the FBI to these devices, Laura. INGRAHAM: Catherine, the work of the Secret Service at the Clinton's home in Chappaqua, that was critical in this case, was it not? HERRIDGE: What has happened, so in the post 9/11 world, is that they have these off-site screening facilities and in the case of Hillary Clinton and also Barack Obama, they intercepted the packages before they even got to the home. So nobody -- the intended recipient never touched anything that was dangerous. INGRAHAM: And they have already concluded this is obviously all sent by the same person or a group of people who are responsible. HERRIDGE: All the devices and the packaging have the same hallmarks and they are investigating it. The working theory is that it was a single individual or a single group. INGRAHAM: Catherine, thank you so much for coming in tonight. And so how sophisticated where these devices and why didn't any of them actually detonate? We wanted to speak to some experts on the subject and Jimmie Oxley is a professor and explosive expert. She aided in the investigations in the '93 World Trade Center bombing and the 2005 London bombings. And Republican Rick Crawford is a member of the House Intel Committee and previously served as an explosive ordnance disposal technician for the four years he was in the U.S. Army. Thank you both for being here. Jimmie, I want to start with you. Having seen the pictures of these devices, how operational do they appear? JIMMIE OXLEY, EXPLOSIVES EXPERT: Well, what we have seen is some x-rays and they looked like they would be operational. It is typical for EOD, Explosive Ordinance Disposal to be able to x-ray packages. They do that first to ensure that there is a device if you have a suspicious package. And then to take a look at where the initiations system is and how it works. In this case we are told there's a digital clock as part of the device. INGRAHAM: And I want to go to you Congressman Crawford. Bob Baer, former CIA operative was on CNN tonight. And he made a comment about the device. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BOB BAER, FORMER CIA OPERATIVE: They probably weren't meant to go off, the worst kind of bomb you could send in the mail is a pipe bomb, they are easily discoverable, people are going to pick them up. They make no, you know, hand addressed in the rest of it. It makes no sense. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Do you agree with his analysis? REP. RICK CRAWFORD (R), ARKANSAS: Absolutely. I think it was probably designed to get attention. It was designed to be caught. And while it maybe a device that could function I think it was designed more than anything to strike fear in the hearts of those people who they were intended to target, not necessarily to kill them. INGRAHAM: Professor, back to you. Tracing the individual, they believe an individual as Catherine Herridge said, is responsible for this one individual. Tracing the material back to that individual, it was so hard in the case of the Unabomber, huge damage obviously, horrific damage done at his hands. It took years and years. Why might this be different? OXLEY: The Unabomber took years and years because his bombings were spread out over years and he actually had a hiatus from bombing for a number of years, if you remember that case. He was quite an experimentalist and tried different signatures. This particular person or group has already been linked, to seven bombs in three days. And the post office has a lot better tracking facilities. Let's face it, if these were caught before they got to the intended victims partly because the post office has certain precautions in place. Now they can trace it back to an area and start looking where the components, whether they be chemical components or physical components like the pipe itself, where those were purchased. INGRAHAM: And Congressman, it was reported earlier today that the post office wasn't used, that there was a courier used at the CNN drop for this particular envelope. So, the post office wasn't, you know, the stamps weren't marked, they weren't actually stamped. Does that make it more difficult or less difficult? Same thing with the Soros mailbox, however, they left it Soros, apparently maybe in -- CRAWFORD: You might necessarily. INGRAHAM: -- so if it wasn't the post office, security cameras and then the actual individual materials? CRAWFORD: Yes, I think what you have is, you know, security protocols anytime you have, you know, any kind of commercial operation like CNN. They are going to have a high security, rigid security protocols. Certainly somebody a high profile individual like George Soros would have security protocols that would catch that kind of thing. But, the other thing, you know, the comparison about the Unabomber and how long that took, the digital footprint is so much more pronounced today than it was when the Unabomber was active and so not only that. In this post 9/11 era, our bomb techs have gotten so much better in the technical exploitation of intelligence. And so we have seen over the last several years, almost two decades now that we have been engaged encounter I.D. Operation, our sophistication as bomb techs has improved dramatically, so that we can go and attack the network quickly and identify those perpetrators, cut off their supply and be able to bring them to justice in a much more expeditious manner. And so, I think you will see this resolved much, much quicker than you would have in an incident like, for example the Unabomber INGRAHAM: Now, professor, if you were profiling this case, what do you think the hallmarks are here, of who might be behind this? Given the way this device was assembled and of the targets that obviously were chosen? OXLEY: Well that's not really my expertise to talk about profiling, but usually bombs are by somebody that is either disgruntled, evil or just plain crazy. It's hard to say what combination this is. I'm sure there's much speculation on that point. But as I said that's -- INGRAHAM: Congressman -- sorry -- Congressman, remember the House Intel Committee? Obviously members of Congress are taking this very seriously. The White House near immediate condemnation. Your sense from the House Intel Committee perspective tonight? CRAWFORD: Well, you know, immediately I agree, you know, condemnation on this -- this is a condemnable act regardless of who the perpetrator is. The good news is the resources we have available to go after the perpetrator or perpetrators as the case may be, and that we have a huge database. And I will say this, as a former bomb tech, I know what the reporting protocols are and I know that the FBI has great expertise and the intelligence committee has great expertise in being able to go after and exploiting that intelligence and find out who these people are. There is a big digital footprint here that they might not even be aware of. But I can tell you this, if these experts are aware of it and they will find the perpetrator very quickly and I think we'll be surprised to see how quickly they are brought to justice in a case like this. INGRAHAM: Good. Fantastic. Thank you both for joining us tonight, We really appreciate it. I want to bring in former secret service agent Dan Bonggino. Dan, thanks for being here. How does the agency address the threats like these and how much a part of the investigatory process will they be going forward? DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Well, this is interesting, Laura. The Secret Service has an MOU, a memorandum of understanding with the FBI. When an attack or an attempted attack like this actually happens, and it's for obvious reasons. If an attack like this happens, the Secret Service typically doesn't conduct the investigation. What they do is they'll secure the crime scene, in this case, the mail facility and the FBI will come in and do the investigation. The reason being, you don't want the Secret Service investigating and (inaudible) potential hole in their security plan, which by the way there was not in this case. The Secret Service did everything by the numbers. They did a fantastic job. They acted wonderfully in this case, but the FBI will take over from this point. They just secure the crime scene, the Secret Service. One more thing Laura, they will be kept informed obviously about the status of the investigation, in case there is an ongoing threat. INGRAHAM: Dan, we had ricin attacks back in December I believe. Mattis and chief of naval operations both received. You've had threats. , you know, we got that powder going to the Trump kids, even here at Fox some years ago including myself was, you know, we received these envelopes with harmless powder in the mail but it's meant to scare you, it's meant to frighten you. The fact that this has become political this fast, and I will play something that Hillary Clinton said earlier today for you and get your reaction. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's a time of deep divisions, and we have to do everything we can to bring our country together. We also have to elect candidates who will try to do the same. You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. (NED VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Yes. I thought it's a flashback at the end to what you said recently about, you know, can't be civil with certain people. So the fingers pointing at Trump all day long on the other networks, which I found disgusting, continue through the night, yet we had Holder, you know, "kick 'em," Hillary, Booker, Maxine Waters, all the different points in time -- And Joe Biden of course, you know, take him behind the barn or whatever he said years ago. I mean, it's rough- and-tumble world of politics. But the idea that this is now they are tagging Donald Trump with this, Jeff Zucker is (inaudible) obviously his network involved today with the, you know, with the envelope going there. It's horrible. But Jeff Zucker, really? That's where you want to go for now? BONGINO: Yes, it's gross. It's disgusting. Matter of fact I remember doing commentary on this network during the really horrific shooting in the baseball field. Every commentator on this network going out of their way to make sure, me included by the way, even on my own show, that the person who did that, Bernie Sanders, although he was a supporter, had no responsibility for that whatsoever, none. That person was responsible for their own actions. And yet, in an incident like today, Laura, let's be clear. We have no evidence whatsoever about who this person was yet that's been released publicly. I'm sure the FBI is working on it. None that indicate a motive. Zero. And yet we have irresponsible gross coverage out there, people jumping to conclusions, claiming they have some kind of inside information about a motive and some kind of link to Donald Trump. I mean, this is really grotesque. There is no place for this. And that clip you played on Hillary sums it all up. Just a week ago she was talking about uncivil treatment of Republicans being almost mandatory, and now all of a sudden she's the peacemaker? We just had one of her advisors on the network yesterday, defending, confronting in some cases aggressively, Republicans out in public places. I mean listen, there is no place for violence and politics. Period. Full Stop. Nothing further needed. But there is a place in politics to call out frauds. And if you haven't been on that side of non-violent, an event you need the entire time. Don't jump in the game now and try to blame it on Donald Trump. INGRAHAM: After the president came out and condemned obviously these horrible, you know, bomb attacks -- would be bomb attack -- CNN had a panel, various people came out. It was not enough for them, you will be surprised to hear, I'm sure, Dan. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I thought it was the absolute bare minimum that the American people could expect from the president to say, given the circumstances. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What leaves me wanting, like Carrie, is you find yourself saying, I just wish he could have said some other things. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think it would have behooved him to be a little bit more complete. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let me think about this. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Your reaction Dan. BONGINO: A little more complete? What else does she want? Does she want him to call for the guillotine? He couldn't have been more -- the full force, the full extent of the United States government will be dedicated to bring these people to justice, what else do they want? The president can do no right, Laura, in their eyes. There is nothing he can say and nothing he can do to get in their eyes, to get him right with them on the left. And you know, they all insulate each other, they speak to themselves in a bubble. See, we don't have that luxury here on this network. You say anything evenly remotely out of the media narrative, you are on twitter all day with these attack sites on this network. Yet over there, they get away with whatever they want, they say whatever they want even though they have absolutely no evidence, zero what the motive was in this case. INGRAHAM: Dan, you know what else they are doing which I saw all throughout the day? They are trying to tie these horrific bomb letters to the overall conservative populist ideology. So in other words, during the closing weeks of the campaign, now they don't really think Donald Trump should be aggressive campaigning and Jake Gafford (ph) kind of spoke to this about the criticism of Waters and John Brennan. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, with the exception of the violence part of it, I don't know that it's just the far right. I think it's just a lot of Republicans. We hear Republicans on Capitol Hill, congressman talking about Soros, talking about John Brennan as he should be the focus. It's not just the fringe anymore. This is now mainstream Republican thought. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So you can't talk about George Soros or you are basically, you know, in some way kind of responsible for this atmosphere. BONGINO: Laura, this is a fundamental misunderstanding of conservative ideology by people who don't understand it. We believe in (inaudible) god- given rights, god-given rights. Not state sanctions rights. They may protect your rights but these are right created by God for everyone. Liberals, conservatives and even communists, god-given rights. That's a fundamental misunderstanding in a very irresponsible comment by a guy who should know better. He's usually a little more fair than that. That is an outrageous comment. There is nobody I know that would be -- you would be kicked off this network immediately and you and I both know it if you got off the air, out on the air advocating violence. That is nonsense. INGRAHAM: And by the way, remember in 2012, the Democrats couldn't stop talking about the Koch brothers. Remember old Harry Reid on the Senate flour. I mean, they picked their targets to vilify and it's OK when they are doing it and they are winning, but when Republicans are starting to make a political comeback, you know, you can't talk about these issues anymore. This is crazy. BONGINO: Yes. Mitt Romney didn't pay his taxes, remember? (Inaudible) He says, well we won, didn't we. I mean, that's their morals right there. INGRAHAM: Yes, bingo. Dan, thank you so much. And coming up, the flameout of the Democrats newest stars, that's the focus of tonight's "Angle" when we return. INGRAHAM: The flameout of the Democrats newest stars, that's the focus of tonight's "Angle." Over the last few months, the media have anointed liberals like Florida gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum, Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacy Abrams and Texas senatorial candidate Beto O'Rourke as Democratic superstars to watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What is the read down there on the (inaudible) of this race. I mean, Abrams is a star in the Democratic Party. CHUCK TODD, MSNBC HOST: Gillum brings something. He brings energy, brings passion. He is a star. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And some of these candidates, like Beto and Gillum, is that not only do you get the star power, you get the youth. BETO O'ROURKE, TEXAS SENATORIAL CANDIDATE: I love you too. Thank you all. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're a rockstar. O'ROURKE: No, no. It's just so many great people. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, you really are. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: In these final weeks of campaigning, we are learning more about all three candidates that should give all the voters in their respective states reason to question the nonstop hype. Let's start with Andrew Gillum. Text messages reveal that the Tallahassee mayor accepted a hotel room, tours and tickets to the Broadway show "Hamilton" from real estate developers without ever disclosing the gifts. Only those developers were undercover FBI agents and the developers had been in touch with Mayor Gillum about a real estate project in Tallahassee. His opponent Ron DeSantis, Republican, confronted him with all of this at their debate on Sunday. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RON DESANTIS, REPUBLICAN GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE, FLORIDA: The question is, did you pay for the "Hamilton" ticket or did the undercover FBI agent pay for the "Hamilton" ticket? ANDREW GILLUM, DEMOCRATIC GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE, FLORIDA: I'm a hardworking person. I know that may not fit your description of what you think people like me do, but I work hard for everything that I've gotten in my life and I don't need anybody handing me anything for free. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, Gillum tried a different answer with Chuck Todd yesterday. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GILLUM: What Florida voters need to do about me is that for 15 years, I've served honorably, respectively, and have served my community without so much as a stain on my record or on my name. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Whatever his (inaudible) he's spinning and badly. And text messages just released by Gillum's lobbyist friend, he's told clearly on August 10th of 2016th that Mike Miller, the undercover FBI agent, and the crew have tickets for us for "Hamilton" tonight at 8:00 p.m. Awesome news, Gillum texted in response. Now whether his brother gave him a ticket or not, he knew the source of the ticket. A supposed developer who needed his help. Now, this is why the state of Florida's Ethics Commission is investigating Gillum. The probe remains open and the Democrats Florida star seems to be falling. Tonight at his second and last debate against DeSantis, Gillum was pressed on the issue and things got hot. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DESANTIS: He wants you to believe that he's not under investigation. Why would an undercover FBI agent posing as a contractor give him $1,000 ticket to "Hamilton?" GILLUM: But I take responsibility for not having asked more questions. But let me tell you, I'm running for governor and the state of Florida we got a lot of issues, in fact we got 99 issues and "Hamilton" ain't one of them. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Nice try, Andy, but I would like to have been in the room where it happened. Now, I suggest that Gillum moves to San Francisco where his views and his style of politics would fit perfectly. Now let's move onto the governor's race in Georgia where this video footage of gubernatorial candidate Stacy Abrams surfaced. Now, it shows her and others on the steps of the Georgia capital burning the state flag in protest. It was 1992. Now, Abrams sought to explain her flag torching this way. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STACY ABRAMS, DEMOCRATIC GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE, GEORGIA: Twenty-six years ago as a college freshman, I along with many other Georgians including the governor of Georgia were deeply disturbed by the racial divisiveness that was embedded in that state flag with the confederate symbol. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, that maybe be true, but the governor of Georgia at the time did not set the flag on fire on the capitol steps. He worked through the legislature to amend the flag, change it and remove the confederate symbol that people found offensive. So, does a candidate for governor consider it right to simply destroy public images or symbols that individuals find offensive, some individuals? That's a question that the people of Georgia will have to answer. And then, there is super Beto. Yes, some street artist has tried to depict O'Rourke, whose real name is Robert Francis, as some sort of super hero but his actions belie the designation. Back in 1998 when this Texas senatorial candidate was 26, he was drinking under the influence driving and he struck another car and attempted to flee the accident. Well, since then, he tried to soft pedaled the arrest. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BETO O'ROURKE, DEMOCRATIC SENATORIA CANDIDTE, TEXAS: I did not try to leave the scene of the accident though driving drunk, which I did, is a terrible mistake for which there is no excuse or justification or defense and I will not try to provide one. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, you should also not try to excuse yourself from attempting to leave the scene of an accident, when that was clearly your intention. Now, as the arresting officer rode in a police report at the time, "the driver attempted to leave the accident, but was stopped by the witness." Nice try, superman. And I haven't even mentioned Beto's 1995 burglary charges for breaking into the University of Texas at El Paso, or this heinous commercial. (VIDEO PLAYING) INGRAHAM: OK, more like leader of the hacks. As voters head to the polls, it would serve them well to see through the liberal media pixie dust about all of the so-called Democrat superstars. Who these people really are, well, check it out. And more importantly, what they believe in. Open borders, higher taxes, government run health care, gun- control, and more regulations on business. Also remember, that when you look at stars, you're actually seeing the light reflected from a star that has actually already burned out. Kind of like what the economy would be like if these three get into power. And that is "the angle." Visitors to the Magic Kingdom are leaving something behind that has Disney pretty upset. Raymond Arroyo has the gory details in our "Seen and Unseen" segment, next. INGRAHAM: It's now time for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we explore some of the big cultural stories of the day. On the docket tonight, new ghosts, thieves and sinners. It seems appropriate one week from following. Joining us with more, Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series. Raymond, let's get a start with the ghoulish revelation out of the happiest place on earth. What's going on? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. They have something called a Code V. That's when a visitor to Disneyworld vomits. The have a Code U which is when someone urinates. There's another code. It's called the HEPA cleanup, and that's when they use the HEPA filter on the vacuum cleaner to pick up human remains. People scattering ashes in the magic kingdom. A new "Wall Street Journal" story, apparently this is a trend, Laura. And they talked to a woman who dropped her father on Main Street and her brother in Epcot. Thank goodness nobody like the animal kingdom or the other parks. INGRAHAM: What? ARROYO: Can you imagine? I realize they want to keep the memories alive. It's a place of happiness where you were with whole family. But do you really want your relatives spending all eternity with the crowds and the heat, being stomped and the food dropped? Not where I'd want to be. INGRAHAM: I'm just glad it's not one of those big chicken legs, turkey legs. ARROYO: Now, where do you think in all places at Disneyland or Disneyworld is the most favorite spot to drop the remains of grandma? INGRAHAM: OK. (MUSIC) ARROYO: The Haunted Mansion, Laura. INGRAHAM: I love the Haunted Mansion. That's my favorite. ARROYO: Of all places, there are extra ghosts being outed all the time apparently. Here's what they do. We've been on these rides where they will say, we are experiencing technical difficulties. You're ride will continue in a moment. You know what they are doing? They found a pile of ash remains, they stop the ride, vacuum it up, and then it continues. INGRAHAM: No they don't. ARROYO: That's what "Wall Street Journal" reported. INGRAHAM: I want to see that story. I don't even believe this. ARROYO: So now in addition to the bacteria on the rails and inside the rides, I now have to worry about human remains. INGRAHAM: Raymond, it's your time to admit. How many times have you been to Disney pray tell? ARROYO: Probably 40 something times. INGRAHAM: You're kidding me. That's an illness. ARROYO: I'm sorry, but here's what I feel. If you have a relative you love, don't drop them in the lagoon at the "Pirates of the Caribbean." When they sing, "Yoho, Yoho, a pirate's life for me," they didn't mean for all eternity. It's just for the ride. INGRAHAM: I just want my ashes scattered over -- ARROYO: Granny and splash mountain is not part of the lyric. INGRAHAM: The Pentagon maybe. All right, with the midterms around the corner, I guess the dirty tricks would be expected. You found one in the ninth district of Delaware? What is that? ARROYO: Yes. This is a state rep, a Democratic state rep. Her name isn't Monique Johns. Now, the Republican who has the seat currently, Representative Kevin Hensley. We have video of this. Here's Hensley. He goes to the door. He puts his pamphlet in the door of one of the people in his district. No sooner does Hensley step away then Monique Johns shows up. Now, she is the contender for this seat. INGRAHAM: There she goes. ARROYO: Here she comes. Watch what she does. She goes up, grabs the pamphlet, then says, I'm taking this one home, and puts her own in the doorway. In the age of ring, Laura, when every doorbell has a candid camera on it, it's best not to steal your opponent's paraphernalia. Just leave them there and put them side-by-side. Let the voters figure it out. INGRAHAM: It's kind of like the UPS truck, those people who follow the RPS truck, the Amazon Prime, it's their prime choice for someone else's packages. ARROYO: Do you remember that video from last week? It was a postal worker who dropped the posts off and he urinated on the front porch, and they caught it on camera. Don't do bad things on people's porches. Leave their porches alone. INGRAHAM: This is frightening. ARROYO: I have to tell you about this, some big news, serious news, Laura. The attorneys general of D.C. and Virginia have opened up investigations into the clergy sex abuse crisis in the Catholic Church. Of course, it's a global phenomenon. As of tonight there are 14 states conducting active inquiries into this abuse. I recently sat down with Cardinal Gerhard Muller. He is the former head of the Vatican doctrinal office, the second most powerful man in Rome, responsible for prosecuting clergy abuse cases for the entire church. Muller was fired late last year by the Pope, which we discussed. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: He removed you according to reports because you were too tough, to insistent on tribunals and penalties for these priestly offenders. Is there any truth to that? GERHARD LUDWIG MULLER, GERMAN CARDINAL OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH: He gave no explanation, but some of his friends around him, they attacked me to be a hardliner in this case. But I think it's the only possibility to react, the church must be very clear in favor of the victims and we must be hardliners. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: He was on the hardliner and was on the side of victims. According to reports the Pope and some of his friends stopped investigations of cardinals in England and elsewhere and rescinded penalties for priests found guilty of this. If you want to know why the sex abuse crisis is engulfing the church, this might be part of the reason, a failure to prosecute these offenders. INGRAHAM: The Pope pulled him off duty. ARROYO: Possibly, quite possibly. INGRAHAM: It seems to me that's what he just told you. ARROYO: It needs to be explored. INGRAHAM: I like him, by the way. ARROYO: I do, too. INGRAHAM: I like him a lot. ARROYO: I'm going to be back later, we're going to talk about mega millions and why you lost. INGRAHAM: What? (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Thank you, Raymond. Fresh off the Florida gubernatorial debate, Congressman Ron DeSantis is here next on his strategy to catch up. The polls are very tight, though, now, in Florida. And plus his reaction to the latest controversy surrounding his Democratic challenger Andrew Gillum and that "Hamilton" performance. Stay there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDREW GILLUM, (D) FLORIDA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: Immigration and border control has an important job to do, and we ought to empower them to do the job, which is why we propose moving the agency inside of the Department of Justice which obviously already oversees four agencies. RON DESANTIS, (R) FLORIDA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: Why would you allow your dislike for the president to knowingly put communities at risk? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Congressman DeSantis is looking for moments like that down the home stretch and he looks to make up what is now about a six-point deficit in the Real Clear Politics average versus his opponent, Tallahassee mayor and uber liberal Andrew Gillum. Joining me now with how he might do that is Florida Congressman, gubernatorial candidate, Ron DeSantis. Congressman, thanks for being here. We invited Mayor Gillum on the program, but he politely declined. So how do close the gap in these polls at this point? RON DESANTIS, (R) FLORIDA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: I'm not worried about polls. I'm worried about votes. We've had a very good showing. We're turning out the voters we need to. We're going to continue to do it. My primary average when I won the primary was 15 points off, it was off for Gillum. So I definitely do not go by media polls. I go by our polling, our targeting, and everything is going in a good direction. And I think the reason is because you have a candidate like Andrew, he's running on abolishing ICE. He said last debate he would not cooperate with ICE at all. And so, you know, if you have somebody who is criminally illegal, we want to get them out, you have to be able to do that. He also is embroiled in this ethics scandal because he lied about it on Sunday night. He said that he pays for everything, has never gotten anything for free. Then documents come out two days later showing he got $1,000 ticket to "Hamilton," this play, from an undercover FBI agent posing as a contractor with business before the city. But also, the documents also showed he got $1,000 stay at a villa in Costa Rica with these lobbyists who are trying to get a contract through the city of Tallahassee. And guess what, they helped arrange the "Hamilton," they helped to arrange the Costa Rica pay for, and then Andrew Gillum gives them a $2 million contract to build a restaurant in Tallahassee. That is the essence of corruption. INGRAHAM: Yes. And "Hamilton," it's nice to have Washington on your side. It's nice to have the real estate developer on your side, or it's nice to have Mayor Gillum on your side. Congress, Mayor Gillum responded tonight, saying this was all a distraction, ethical concerns, whether he lied, and it was last night actually. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDREW GILLUM, (D) FLORIDA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: The Republicans obviously want to distract. The goal is obviously to use my candidacy as a way to reinforce, frankly, stereotypes about black men. We are sick of racist attacks. We're sick of bigoted attacks. We're sick of divisive language and strategy. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, so that was his response. In other words, it's kind of all racially charged, maybe even racist. DESANTIS: Laura, it's not about black or white. It's about right or wrong. And the fact of the matter is when you're taking gifts from an undercover FBI agent, that's wrong. When you are taking gifts from lobbyists, that's wrong. And it does violate Florida law. But then when you give them what they were looking for, this $2 million, that's the essence of the quid pro quo thing. And it's obviously wrong to lie about, and lie about it -- and he was indignant on Sunday night. He said, I'm a grown man, I pay for everything myself. Then it turns out he doesn't pay for very much that we've seen in these documents. And so I think he realizes he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he realizes he's been lying. And think about this, Laura. He still says, I have not been under FBI investigation. If he is not under investigation, why would an undercover agent be giving him $1,000 ticket to "Hamilton"? Of course he is under investigation. INGRAHAM: He took it up a notch tonight in the debate with you in responding to these same charges and the concern about getting free stuff from agents posing as this developer. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDREW GILLUM, (D) FLORIDA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: My grandfather used to say a hit dog will holler. And it hollered through this room. Mr. DeSantis has spoken. First of all, he has neo-Nazis helping him in the state. He has spoken at racist conferences. I'm not calling Mr. DeSantis a racist. I'm simply saying the racists believe he's a racist. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's an old trick, the left does that a lot. The communists believe he's a communist, you could play that game all day long. But he's made this a racial issue, so every time you raise a question about his is ethics, his brother is now under investigation, right, Marcus, for maybe voting illegally, clearly there is an FBI investigation ongoing. It's racist to mention that, so how are you to debate him if every inconvenient fact becomes a charge of racism, Congressman? DESANTIS: I think what he's doing is turning off voters. The fact of the matter is, he's a career politician. He's been in office since he was 22, never had a job outside of politics. And he acts like one. He doesn't accept responsibility for anything. He always looks to pass the blame to somebody else. And so that's really what he's doing here. He's trying to divert away from the fact that he's running on a radical agenda that Floridians don't want, and he's embroiled in a corruption scandal that he's been lying about four months and has now got caught red-handed. So that's just the reality. And look, voters see right through what he's doing. INGRAHAM: He made a big deal at the first debate, we're almost out of time, about you get support from the NRA. Doesn't he get support from Planned Parenthood and all these leftist groups that are responsible for the snuffing out of hundreds of thousands of lives every year? DESANTIS: Exactly. And he says I will believe in science. Well, he doesn't believe in science when it comes to right to life, I'll tell you that. INGRAHAM: Fantastic. And thanks so much, Congressman, for coming on tonight. Again, we did invite the mayor on. We wanted both of your perspectives, but he didn't get back to us, so we appreciate it. And after President Trump said he was a proud nationalist, it suddenly became OK for his opponents to call him Hitler. Well, a professor who just so happens to be the foremost scholar on nationalism, who happens to be Jewish, is here to react, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I watched enough History Channel to know that they cheered at Hitler, too. Nationalism isn't divorced from the capacity to cheer at a crowd. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It reminds me of the kinds of words that came from people like Hitler who thought that in Germany he was a nationalist. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Those slanderous comments leveled against President Trump after he dared say he was proud to be a nationalist. So what is nationalism? What's it all about? Israeli philosopher Yoram Hazony, quorum has oni wrote recently, "it is a mistake to think of nationalism as an inherently regressive or destructive political force. In fact nationalism was the engine that established modern political liberty, and it has been a spur to diversity among nations." And Yoram, whose book, "The Virtue of Nationalism" came out last month joins me now. Thanks so much for being here, loved your piece. Given what we just read it, that you wrote, obviously, how do you react to the proponents of nationalism being linked to Adolf Hitler today? YORAM HAZONY, PRESIDENT, THE HERZL INSTITUTE: It's despicable, obviously, and really a disgrace. I think the people who are appearing on those clips simply -- the best face that you can put on it is that they are just ignorant. They don't know the first thing about nationalism, and they might not know much about Adolf Hitler other than what they saw in a clip on the History Channel, as we heard. And with that they feel equipped to go out and to smear people who have nothing to do with Hitler with this kind of smear. They should be ashamed of themselves. INGRAHAM: I don't know even how any of them are on television, frankly. That is perpetuating a fraud upon the viewing public, and it is historically ignorant, completely out of place. The point about nationalism that President Trump actually made tonight again in Wisconsin, he said what he views as the globalist understanding is you put the interest of the global community ahead of your own peoples. That's what he's getting at, and that's what a lot of us saw happening over the last 20 plus years or so which led to the rise of China and other strife across the globe. Meanwhile, America got weaker, less powerful, less influential certainly under Obama. HAZONY: I think President Trump is exactly right on this. The confrontation between globalists and nationalists is the great political issue of our age. And the truth is that every political leader should really be taking a stand. There's nothing more important than this question of how we are going to order the political world. And President Trump, he told us where he stands. Every one of us is going to have to take a side between globalists and nationalists eventually. INGRAHAM: His point is that we live in the greatest country on the face of the earth. He wants to make it even greater, but what's wrong with that? Remember when Obama said the Greeks believed in in Greek exceptionalism, the British believe in British exceptionalism, like it's all the same. Reagan had a different view. This is the greatest nation. We are built on the ideal of freedom. And in 240 plus years, we became the global superpower, and we want to keep it that way. And that's what Trump wants. He just doesn't want us to go down the tubes because we are spending money on stupid stuff. HAZONY: I think that's what he wants. I'm also hearing him say something in addition, which is that he said repeatedly that he doesn't have any kind of animosity towards other nations. He's happy for other nations to see their own way of life and their way of thinking as the best and each one of them should look out for their own interest. Notice the decentralization that stands behind this whole way of looking at the world. This is a classical, nationalist, which says I can mean well and think well of all sorts of other countries. But each one of them has to be responsible for its own traditions to pursue things according to its own interest. Compare that to the globalist side. The globalist side is the other side of Trump's dichotomy here, and that globalists, he's saying, these are people who look at the entire globe as though it's like a single political and economic entity. And because they look at it that way, they are unable to keep their eye on what's best and what's needed for their own nation. And that is indeed a completely different way of looking at the political order with a totally different morality. I think he's completely right to draw our attention to this. INGRAHAM: Absolutely. And Japan has its own way and Britain might have its own way, and that's OK. We can't lecture to the rest of the world about how they live their lives. Yoram, thank you so much, loved your piece, and really appreciate your perspective on this tonight. How did I react, by the way, to losing out on last night's mega millions? You might be surprised, next. INGRAHAM: So there was a winner in last night's mega millions. I'm still here, obviously it wasn't I. ARROYO: There are the winning numbers. Last night Laura has her tickets out. And she goes, now, wait a minute. I have 62, I have five. There's the ticket. INGRAHAM: You don't see the numbers there. ARROYO: And she's going through it. I said, Laura, this isn't bingo. INGRAHAM: I had five at the end. ARROYO: You have to get them in sequence, Laura, exact sequence. Load-Date: October 25, 2018 End of Document Migrant Caravan Advancing Towards U.S. Border; Trump and Pence Issue Warnings on Caravan; 14 Days Until Crucial Midterm Elections; The President of Honduras Said the Caravan that was Trying to Cross the U.S. Border is Being Organized by Radicals and Also Financed by Venezuela; Former Trump Campaign Aide George Papadopoulos Said He Will Go after All Those People Who Mistreated Him; Sara Carter Reported that Nearly about 100 People from Cuba, Congo, and Other Places Have Mixed In to the Caravan that Are Trying to Cross the U.S. and So with Other Bad Actors like MS-13 and Drug Cartels which Raises Great Concern for the Trump Administration; Pollsters Have Weighed In Saying that Some Key States Have Strong Leaning for Each Party But It Is a Tight Race and It Is Too Early to Predict Who Has an Edge to Take the Majority of Both the House and the Senate Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 23, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7818 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Jason Chaffetz, Sara Carter, Doug Schoen Guests: Ronna McDaniel, Dan Bongino, John McLaughlin, George Papadopoulos, Simona Papadopoulos, John Solomon Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Great show, as always. So much breaking news tonight. Welcome to HANNITY. All right. Tonight, that caravan continued to march north. It is picking up steam. It is growing in numbers. It is getting exploited by dangerous individuals trying to sneak across our southern border. The security concern is dire. Sara Carter has been tracking this caravan from the ground. She'll join us in moments with a live report, and she believes in fact that MS-13 is among the crowd. We have other news on that front. And coming up, we'll break down the serious risk in play here and just who is organizing this caravan. We'll also reveal tonight how Democrats, they are completely ignoring this looming situation. In other words, they are taking John Podesta's Center for American Progress advice. In other words, the crisis they created, they want open borders, sanctuary cities, sanctuary states, and guess what? Amnesty. If we had a border wall tonight, this would not be a threat to the United States, or even to the people that couldn't possibly get hurt here, which nobody wants. We are just 14 days, tonight, and two weeks, you're going to tune into this channel, and a very important midterm election. The Democratic playbook is in full effect. We're going to expose the very worst, most despicable, vile ads that are out there, filled with politics of hate and fear, which I predicted. Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi, once again, she is measuring the drapes, she thinks she is getting the gavel back. But you have the power. We'll tell you her bold and new prediction. And we have brand-new undercover footage. Once again, Project Veritas, first, they outed Bredesen in Tennessee, than McCaskill, tonight, wait until you see North Dakota Senator Heidi Heitkamp for who she really is. A far left Democrat like everybody else in the Democratic Party, masquerading as somebody they are not. Moderates. We also have new, damning reports on the Democrats running to be the next governor of Florida, Andrew Gillum. Wait until you see this guy's record, facing also an FBI investigation into serious corruption allegations. All right. Buckle up, stay tuned. A lot to cover in tonight's jam-packed opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: At this hour, thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants are now marching through Mexico toward our southern border to demand entry into this country. So, just how massive is this organization? That has been organized, who is organizing, who is providing the funding, and are there ulterior political motives at play here? Well, today, the vice president, Mike Pence, answer some of those important questions. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: At the president's direction, I spoke to President Hernandez of Honduras, who told me that the caravan is now making its way through Mexico headed for the southern border, was organized by leftist organizations and financed by Venezuela. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: One of the shadowy left-wing organizations now involved, their name is Pueblos Sin Fronteras, explains that its dream is to, quote -- watch this -- turn down border walls imposed by greed. Now, think about what that means. This group is calling you, we, the American people, greedy for wanting a border wall or believing in our constitutional republic, our sovereignty, the rule of law in this country, for wanting to control immigration, for wanting to know exactly who wants to come into our country, and what reason they want to be here. Fair questions. And, of course, the caravan poses massive security threats, frankly, for both the people marching and for the American people. Now, reports indicate that previously deported, illegal immigrants, they are using this caravan to sneak back into the U.S. after being deported. Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, she recently warned that cartels are trying to infiltrate this caravan, and today, both the president and the vice president issued this serious warning. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PENCE: The United States of America intervenes and prevents ten terrorists or suspected terrorists from coming into our country every day. So it is inconceivable that there would not be individuals from the Middle East as a part of this growing caravan. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I spoke with border patrol this morning, I spoke to `em last evening, and I spoke to `em the day before. I speak to `em all the time. And they say, and you know this as well as anybody, over the course of the year, over the course of a number of years, they've intercepted many people from the Middle East. They have intercepted ISIS. They have intercepted all sorts of people. They have intercepted good ones and bad ones. They have intercepted wonderful people from the Middle East, and they have intercepted bad ones. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And breaking tonight, new reports that yet another caravan is now forming in El Salvador with plans to make it to our southern border. Now, the media, the left in this country, they are either ignoring the story or making ridiculous claims that Republicans want to violently repel this group, or even attack them with the military. That is an absolute lie, it's absurd, and if there is, God forbid, any concentration at our southern, it will not be because the United States is causing it. And, by the way, let me say for the record, I am sure that the vast majority of people in this caravan, we know what they want, a better life, that they are not getting in their own country. But we cannot guarantee -- no one can guarantee -- if you are listening to any commentary, nobody can vouch for every single person that is marching in that caravan, whether or not they have our best intentions at heart. Now, if we did have a serious, expansive border wall today, which could be built expeditiously, guess what? This would not be an issue. It won't be an issue in the future if we build a wall. But Democrats, they think it's politically expedient to have open borders. They have supporters of sanctuary cities, even sanctuary states like California, and, by the way, an acceptance of anyone and everyone who comes here illegally, they want amnesty, they are the party of amnesty, they just don't want to tell you because John Podesta's group is saying, just don't say it, don't tell people who you really are -- all while people, the ones that do the right thing, enter the country legally, respect our Constitution, respect our sovereignty, respect our borders, respect our rule of law, guess what? They are waiting in line, patiently. And sadly, there is not one Democrat in this country tonight, not one, speaking out and supporting law, order, American sovereignty, borders, our Constitution. Now, this is not a crazy idea because guess what? Well, we have the videotape. And a few years ago, even then Senator Obama, many top Democrats today, they were singing a very different tone. As a matter fact, they all sound like Donald Trump today. But, of course, that was then, they wanted your votes then, and this is, of course, now. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, FORMER PRESIDENT: We all agree on the need to better secure the border and to punish employers who choose to hire illegal immigrants. We are a generous and welcoming people here in the United States, but those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of law, and they are showing disregard for those who are following the law. We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently, and lawfully. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Wow, it sounds like Donald Trump. Now, Democrats are playing politics with immigration, no surprise. The Trump agenda constantly promoting policies that do put America, Americans first. Remember it last night's rally, the president had this to say about what his agenda is all about. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: A globalist is a person that wants the globe to do well, frankly, not caring about our country so much. And you know what, we can't have that. You know, they have a word, it became old-fashioned. It is called a nationalist. And I say really, we are not supposed to use that word. You know what I am? I am a nationalist, OK? I'm a nationalist. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Globalists, they want the world to do well first. The president wants America first. That's what he is saying a nationalist is. And obviously, he has America first policies. The media, though, of course, typical in any election year, they are trying to say those remarks imply that he must somehow be a closet racist or somehow, you know, those are dangerous, those remarks. Really? Think about this. It is now somehow politically incorrect to say we are going to promote the American people, American values, American law and order and prosperity first. I'm America first. Here's what I mean when I say that. I want every single American, regardless of race, background, national origin, every American to have a shot at the American dream. That means a good job, money for retirement, a nice house in a safe neighborhood, good schools for their kids, the ability to take a vacation, go out to dinner. You know what, Americans? Let's get Americans to lift them out of poverty first. We still have too many Americans in poverty. We already are the most generous people on the planet, and always will be. That is who we are. There is never been a country in the history of man that has accumulated more power and used it for the good of other people than the United States of America. And the president saying, yes, America first, but what we have as a result? Record low unemployment, 14 states, African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Asian-Americans, women in the workplace, and, of course, youth unemployment. Incomes growing for all races at all Americans. That is great for our country, or family, our fellow Americans. And the media wants you to believe that Trump's America first policies are racist. No, African-Americans, Hispanic- Americans, Asian-Americans, women in the workplace, are benefiting, rightly the most, and we are lifting every American up, and two years of success after eight years of failure. This week, Obama trying to take credit once again for the Trump economy. Let's remember what life was like eight years of Obama. Lowest labor participation rate since the `70s, 95 million Americans out of the workforce, the worst recovery since the `40s. Obama in eight years added 13 more million Americans on food stamps, 8 million more Americans in poverty, 43 million total, stagnant wage growth, the only president to never reach a 3 percent annual GDP growth, and accumulated more debt than all 43 presidents before him combined. That's his record. And despite the mainstream media, who loved Obama, he was their savior. That's a record of failure. Now, Americans of all backgrounds, all ethnicities, are doing better than never. And yet, they want you and the media, and the Democratic Party, to loath President Trump. Now, their favorite tactic is flat-out just called the president a liar. If he cured cancer, they would still hate him. Look at this banner from conspiracy TV MSNBC -- fear, falsehood, fact checks, terrible. CNN, fake news, no better. Trump spreads lies and stoke fears ahead of election. Why don't they run his speech and let their audiences decide? And, of course, the lying smear continued on air, it was even worse. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm sorry, the president flat out lied saying Congress was working on a plan and coming back before the election. He gets caught in the light, changes his story again and says we're going to get to it eventually. The president thinks you are stupid. The president think people are stupid. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are officially in a fact free zone. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: President Trump tries to play to his base with all right falsehoods. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's not even trying to hide his lies anymore. He says, bleh, putting it all out there. He's spreading a lot of lies about nonwhite people to all white crowds, Mika. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, a lot of what the president is saying is just not true. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The president seems to be in a fact-free frenzy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's Trump respiration. He inhales oxygen, he exhales lies. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: They're all afraid they're going to lose. They're all afraid their blue wave may not happen. You have the power to stop it. Mainstream media is worried because races all across the country, they are tightening. Looks like the Republicans are going to pick up Senate seats tonight. According to -- even NBC News, Republicans outpacing Democrats in early voting in key states. But don't take that as a great indicator. Tonight, election forecaster Nate Silver, he is predicting a six in seven chance, 87 percent, the Democrats will win back control of the House. Keep in mind, by the way, he was wrong in 2016. He's predicting Nancy Pelosi will control the rein of our government as speaker of the House, and says 82 percent chance, the Senate will remain in the hands of Republicans, and likely to pick up new seats. Now, this is a very real prospect. It will come true two weeks from tonight if you don't get off your ass, go to the polls, and vote for Republicans. You vote for any Democrat for the House, you are voting for Nancy Pelosi, who is measuring the drapes. Or, if you vote for a Democrat for the Senate, you are voting for Chuck Schumer. Take a look at Nancy. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), MINORITY LEADER: If the election were held today, the Democrats would handily win the House. I can only speak in the present tense because you never know in another couple of weeks. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You can stop it. "Real Clear Politics" average for the generic congressional vote currently gives Democrats an advantage. If Nancy Pelosi takes control, there is no plan for improving this country. All they want is to hate and stop Trump. All they want is investigations, higher taxes, the crumbs back, open borders, and Obamacare. So, instead of campaigning out any ideas to help you, Democrats across the country doing what they always do. Their standard playbook, I have said it over and over, racist, sexist, misogynist, xenophobic, Islamophobic, dirty air, water, kill children and throw granny over the cliff. This election cycle, we have seen those vile ads, some of the most vile ever, including this despicable ad out of Pennsylvania from Democrat Bob Casey against Republican Lou Barletta. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Our twin daughters were four when they got sick. There are no words to describe the terror we felt when doctors that they both had cancer. Our whole world changed. Thank god we had health insurance. But if Lou Barletta has his way, kids like mine could be denied the care they need. In Congress, Barletta voted to let insurance companies strip coverage for pre-existing conditions. Why would I ever vote for Lou Barletta? SEN. BOB CASEY (D), PENNSYLVANIA: I'm Bob Casey, and I approve this message. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Really exploiting kids for political gain? There are no lengths, there are no limits, to how low the Democrats will go to scare you, the boater. According to the left, voting for a Republican is a risk to your life. I can prove it. Take a look. (BEGIN VDIEO CLIP) REP. BETO O'ROURKE (D), TEXAS: Ted Cruz has voted to take away health care from millions of American families. He has tried repeatedly to roll back protections for pre-existing conditions, and he shut down the government for 16 days because he thought too many people had too much health care. AD NARRATOR: Scott took over a million bucks from corporate polluters and savaged environmental safeguards, slashing $700 million from water protection. No wonder he doesn't want to talk about it. AD NARRATOR: Balderson's plan could mean cuts to Medicare and Social Security, can Balderson even said he has no problem raising the retirement age? Troy Balderson, that's not funny at all. AD NARRATOR: Mike Rasor wants to take women's access to preventative care and a formidable cancer screening, including mammograms. It is clear. Rasor is wrong for women and wrong for Ohio. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All lies, I warned you, same playbook every two or four years. Given his rhetoric, is it a surprise that a mob is acting out all over America. You see it right here, night after night now for weeks. Republicans stalked, threatened, driven out of restaurants, shouted down in airports, and tonight, even new reports that the Office of House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, they through a boulder through his window. Now, look at the pictures, show an enormous boulder that was thrown through his window. Look at that. This is never acceptable. Needs to stop immediately. With just two weeks until the most important midterm of our lives, by the way, over differences need to be solved at the ballot box. No Democrats are condemning this. If anything, their rhetoric is encouraging it. They should be more responsible. A brand-new reports on three Democrats, including two facing off in tight races, we start with Senator Cory Booker, Spartacus himself, currently not up for reelection, but he is facing a new sexual assault allegation from an anonymous source. Now, on the show, I'm consistent. Senator Booker deserves the presumption of innocence, due process, even if he didn't promote the same basic rights during the Kavanaugh hearings. We reached out to his office for comment, Spartacus is silent. Meanwhile, we have a new revelation about Senator Heidi Heitkamp:, look at this. First, her campaign was derailed after mistakenly outing sexual assault victims against their wishes and a campaign ad, look at this brand- new undercover James O'Keefe ProjectVeritas.com, showing Heitkamp campaign staffers revealing that while she campaigns as a moderate, just like Bredesen in Tennessee and Claire McCaskill in Missouri, she is no different than any other far left Democrat. All Democrats are lying. They are literally lying to you. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's an election year for her. She's being careful about pissing people off, and it's funny, she said basically like, after the election, if and when she gets re-elected, she's going to be super liberal. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think she'd move farther to the left. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think she would move to the left. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think if we have a Democratic Senate, she would vote for more policies that you see with Democrats. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh. She is going to be super liberal, but she is not running as a super liberal. Are you surprised? Remember, she throughout due process and resumption of innocence and tried to block Kavanaugh's nomination. It shouldn't be any surprise. Heitkamp's office does not want to talk to us, shocking. Meanwhile, we're continuing to track a very important, tight governor's race in Florida. Look at this, Ron DeSantis, far left radical Democrat Andrew Gillum, at this hour, Gillum is facing very serious, ongoing ethics probe over his conduct as the mayor of Tallahassee. And breaking today, new text messages show that Mr. Gillum during a 2016 trip to New York with longtime ally and lobbyist, Adam Corey, Gillum got tickets to the hit Broadway play "Hamilton" that came from an undercover FBI agent posing as a businessman looking to develop property in Tallahassee. Where I come from in Long Island, that's called a bribe. Now, this raises even more questions about Gillum's judgment and past behavior. And, of course, she's innocent until proven guilty, but I'd like some answers. Even more concerning is what we've uncovered about as far left plan for Florida. Forty percent corporate tax increase, abolish ICE, universal health care, also, he has ties to far left radical groups, including radical anti-police groups, with call for the abolishment of prison. And, Ron DeSantis, former Navy JAG officer, congressmen, Freedom Caucus member, pro-growth, low tax Republican. Gillum, of course, a radical socialist. The choice is clear -- Florida, Gillum will ruin your state. Your safety, your security, your economy, are on the line in 14 days. Two weeks from tonight, you decide if Nancy Pelosi is speaker, Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, all chair committees. If you want those people holding the Trump agenda hostage, a vote for a Democrat is a vote for any of the people you see on your screen. Joining us now, RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniels with us, and the author of "The New York Times" bestseller, "The Deep State", FOX News contributor Jason Chaffetz. What happens if they win? JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, think about, those people become chairman, chairman. You've got to refer to Maxine Waters as the chairman. Jerry Nadler chairing Judiciary Committee. And Adam Schiff will displace Devin Nunes. And all of those investigations -- HANNITY: The biggest liar. CHAFFETZ: Yes. And all those investigations, that you see Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows and Radcliffe and Gowdy, those go away because they are going to dismiss those and you're going to get Elijah Cummings and you're going to get Jerry Nadler, the power of subpoena to go after this administration day after day. HANNITY: Ronna McDaniel, I feel better about the Senate -- I don't have a crystal ball -- than I do about the House. Nate Silver says 82 percent chance Republicans keep the Senate, 86 percent chance they lose the House. He was wrong in 2016, is he wrong tonight? RONNA MCDANIEL, RNC CHAIRWOMAN: I think he is wrong, Sean. I mean, listen, they've been talking about this blue wave over and over and over again. We're not seeing it. We are not seeing it in the early voting in Florida, and Nevada, and states that we are already seeing results come in, and certainly on the Senate side, we are seeing leads open up in North Dakota and Missouri and Indiana. So there's great opportunities to pick up seats. But you are right, we have to get out and vote. What you just talked about, what would happen if we lose the House, I know it's not Halloween yet, but a shiver just went down my spine. So, we need all of our voters to get out. This is not a done deal. The Democrats are energized, the only way we keep the House is if we get our voters out paired talk to your family, talk to your friends, go to vote.gop.com, and get everyone out to the polls. We are fighting for our future. We know what Nancy Pelosi means -- higher taxes, abolish ICE, open borders, and miring our country down in investigation after investigation. HANNITY: And she wants the crumbs back and to keep Obamacare. That is not a radical agenda, Jason Chaffetz. MCDANIEL: Exactly. CHAFFETZ: No, it is. Think about, they want to raise taxes, they want to abolish ICE, they want these open borders, they don't denounce any of these violence, they stand for the resistance movement, they want the scorched earth. That's what they -- they are going to deliver what they are promising. We should believe them. HANNITY: But all of these people, Ronna, they are not telling their agenda. They tell, Maxine, shoosh. Even John Podesta, Center for American Progress, don't talk about immigration. Not one Democrat talks about the caravan headed to the southern border because they want open borders, they support amnesty, sanctuary cities and states. So, that's what they really want, but they are not saying it. Bredesen got caught calling the people of Tennessee ignorant. We know that McCaskill got caught saying, oh, I'm anti-gun, I'm all pro everything Obama believe. Heitkamp's staff saying she'll be a super liberal. You know, thank, God, Project Veritas got this tape. MCDANIEL: Yes. I mean, they are the liars. You know, it's funny that the mainstream media says that about our president who told the truth and actually delivered on the promises he made on the campaign trail. But you have Democrat after Democrat being caught in a lie, running on one thing, and then saying, yes, just elect me, and then I get there, I'll govern with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi has said very clearly, you have a free pass, run against me, say you won't vote for me for speaker, because I know when you come home, you are going to vote for Nancy Pelosi, which would be a disaster. HANNITY: A vote for a Democrat in the House is a vote for her. A vote for a Senate Democrat is a vote for Schumer. Good to see you. Congrats on the book. CHAFFETZ: Thank you. Thanks for having me. HANNITY: Sara Carter live in Guatemala, next. She spoke with some members of the migrant caravan and has breaking news. Also, Dan Bongino. Much more, busy breaking news night. Two weeks from tonight, you decide if you shock the world again. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We have to do something that we all agree with, we have to change the laws, we have to make that much different. They are very soft, and it is a different time. It is really a different time. Maybe there was a time where that could have been appropriate, but we have to have immigration laws now that are suitable for this time and that work. And the ones that we have now are old and they don't work, they don't work and they don't come close to working. And we need protection. We have to have a wall. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That was president earlier today, blasting our week immigration laws that have allowed this can migrant caravan to become a major crisis, Sara Carter went down to Guatemala this week as an independent investigative reporter, joined the caravan for a few days to find answers as to who these people are, how they got organized, and who sent them towards this country. She obtained exclusive footage, as you see on your screen. And she joins us live tonight from Guatemala. And also with us, former Secret Service agent, NRATV contributor, Dan Bongino. Sara, let's start with you. You apparently ran into people that were part of MS-13, which was reported earlier today. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Correct. HANNITY: People want to hear this. CARTER: Yes, absolutely. We ran into people that were part of MS-13. It appears that there were other people, as well, other gang members from various different groups. And there was an enormous amount of men. We were there to greet, basically, the second wave of people crossing from Honduras into Guatemala. I was right on the Honduran border with officials there. Spent some time with, as well with Guatemalan officials, the head of Guatemala's intelligence, Mario Duarte. I also spent time today with the president of Guatemala, President Jimmy Morales. So, this has been a huge issue for the people of Guatemala, for the government of Guatemala. I can tell you what I saw were very few women and children, and an enormous amount of men. There were about 1500 in the second wave, they believe there are about 7,000 in total, that crossed through here. Remember, a lot of people began joining the very first wave when they got into Mexico, so there were a lot of coyotes, a lot of drug cartel members that were pushing their own people into the crowd to join these crowds that were moving from Honduras, all the way to Mexico, to reach the U.S. border. But the majority of them were men, the women and children were in the front, and it was a very dangerous situation for them because there was a move, a push, some of them had been trampled. They had been way to the front of the line. But I could tell you, I saw over 1,000 men, many of them highly organized, wearing the same backpack, a few of them had told me that it was an organized movement, that they have people contact them in their villages, and that's why they were part of this movement going in. They had heard it on the news, as well. So, this is very important for people to understand, this was not a spontaneous movement. This was a very organized event. HANNITY: And the vice president -- let me get to Dan Bongino, then back to you, Sara. The vice president saying today that the Honduran president is saying, organized by radicals within that country, but also financed by Venezuela. DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: Sean, the evidence is everywhere. We've seen a Honduran left-wing congressman, I believe the name is Fuentes, who has already come out and made some statements that the left wing in South America is behind this. Again, this is only ignored by the media, but the problem here is the media and their liberal allies, Sean, are doing nothing to buttress the president and back up the president in what should be, Sean, what should be a bipartisan issue. You have close to 10,000 people, potentially, getting ready in the next coming weeks to potentially hit our southern border, not through a port of entry, but to enter illegally. We have no idea who they are, and the Democrats are OK on this. Every responsible Republican should get every Democrat on the record as to where they stand on this. HANNITY: Listen, I'm just going to assume, Sara, that the vast majority of people are living in poverty, their government is not working for them, we see widespread abuse, even the money that we give to a lot of these nations, I'm sure most, 99 percent, let's say, are good people that want a better life. I understand people's desire to be here. But we have laws, we are a constitutional republic, we have sovereignty, we have borders. And we have a process for people to come in. The idea -- by the way, if we had the wall, Sara, this couldn't happen. But the idea that America would somehow, by defending its borders, if there is any confrontation, it will be caused by other people that don't respect our laws. I don't want any innocent people hurt here. But I don't -- nobody can vouch for anybody in that group. And if there is 1 percent that want to bring harm to our country, we owe it to the people here to protect them and not let that happen. CARTER: Absolutely, Sean. A couple of points here that are very important right now, the government of Guatemala, Present Morales told me today in an interview, that he understands how President Trump feel, he understands how the American people feel. He wants a full cooperation with the United States, he will fully cooperate, they want to bring the criminals to justice that organized this event because innocent people are harmed. And these are the people that are being pushed into these caravans, and being told lies, being brought up to the United States. But just as you said, there are elements of danger within these caravans. Members of, you know, these migrants, members of MS-13, members of other gangs. They also found within the first wave of the caravan, and even within the second wave, Cuban, people from Congo, people from all over the world, that were put into these caravans and from specific places, nearly about 100 or so. They have been rounding up, they have detained them. I have talked with intelligence officials here on the ground, this information is legitimate. Now as for the ISIS members that I know everyone has talked about over the last few weeks, you know, over the last week, that was information that was obtained from the intelligence services out here in coordination with U.S. intelligence, I've been told, over the last three years. So, they have found members connected to ISIS, and other various terrorist group here in Central America. HANNITY: Yes. You know, and Dan, if they get to the border and charge our border, that's an invasion. That's not a caravan, that would be an invasion. BONGINO: Sean, there is no other way to describe it, Sean. And also, what happens when all the attention is being paid to the caravan, what happens at other points of entry as well, Sean? There's a lot of secondary effect in this, as well. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All Democrats that we have on tape saying one thing years ago, that now they sound like Trump. Now, not one is speaking out, not one. BONGINO: Right. HANNITY: Because they don't care to ever take a stand. They want to hide and see which way the wind blows. That's not leadership. Sara, thank you for reporting. We'll have a new report from her tomorrow. Dan Bongino, thank you. When we come back, Nancy Pelosi thinks this selection is in the bag for Democrat and she is going to be speaker. Doug Schoen, John McLaughlin, they'll break down the polls on what you can expect two weeks from tonight, that's next. HANNITY: All right, two weeks from tonight, one of the most important midterms of your lifetime, battleground race has remain neck and neck. Republicans are surging in places like North Dakota, by the way, Indiana now surging. People in Indiana, you vote for the libertarian, you are throwing away your vote and helping Joe Donnelly. No offense to libertarians, don't split the vote. And of course, President Trump's approval numbers are the highest ever. Deputy DNC chair Keith Ellison sinking fast as Dianne Feinstein, Kamala Harris, and Spartacus stay quiet, people in Minnesota see what's happening there. New poll showing Ellison down to Republican opponent Doug Wardlow down by seven points, as he should be. Now remember, in addition to his radical left beliefs, Ellison facing serious accusations of domestic and emotional and physical violence from his ex-girlfriend, Karen Monahan. No calls for FBI investigations there. Shocking. Joining us now with reaction, Fox News contributor and former Clinton pollster, Doug Schoen. Republican pollster John McLaughlin. Here's my take. DOUG SCHOEN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. HANNITY: Florida, I would say Gillum and Nelson are slightly ahead for the Democrats. SCHOEN: True. HANNITY: I would say Marsha Blackburn, after that tape by Project Veritas, she will take Tennessee, I hope. I think Claire McCaskill is in deep trouble in Missouri tonight where she got revealed. Heidi Heitkamp is in trouble. This Sinema woman is out of her mind, in Arizona. I don't think she wins against Martha McSally. I think Dean Heller holds on. If people in Indiana don't vote libertarian, you are splitting the ticket. if you get rid of the libertarian you win Indiana. And I think Dean Heller is holding on a slight margin, tight race will be there. The House, it is going to be two, three, four seats either way. SCHOEN: Yes. The way I see it, Sean, the House I think is now 25, 26, 27 Democrats. HANNITY: That will be plus four Democrat. SCHOEN: Right. HANNITY: Slim margin. SCHOEN: And I wish I could sit here and tell you that you are wrong about the Senate. I'd say we got a chance as Democrats to pick up Nevada and Arizona, but other than that, I think there is a decisive movement to the Republicans. HANNITY: Kyrsten Sinema who caught on tape calling them the meth lab of democracy, the people of our state crazy, the fact that she-- (CROSSTALK) SCHOEN: She is a moderate Democrat, Sean. HANNITY: In Arizona state, a radical attorney for the blind sheikh, and she said it's OK to join the Taliban. SCHOEN: Right. HANNITY: Really, you're going to bet on that one? SCHOEN: Well, right now the polls have her even or slightly ahead. HANNITY: Actually, McSally had the latest poll up seven. JOHN MCLAUGHLIN, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN POLLSTER: Yes. HANNITY: Yes. SCHOEN: One poll. MCLAUGHLIN: She is not a moderate. And the good news side is the Houses where the battle is right now. And you've done a great job raising the specter that Nancy Pelosi could be the next speaker, the most powerful Democrat in the country. She thinks-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Third in line to be president. MCLAUGHLIN: Right. HANNITY: God help us. MCLAUGHLIN: So they won't just impeach the president, they'll impeach the vice president too. So that one is out of the bag. But in the meantime, we're going to have a poll tomorrow that we'll put online, a thousand likely voters nationwide, 44 percent Republican, 45 percent Democrat. That's close enough to hold the House. And you've got -- you've got basically Pelosi because she has this 55 percent unfavorable rating across the country. HANNITY: Yes, 45 Republican House retirements. MCLAUGHLIN: Right, well, right, but still, that's why the president, his job approval numbers coming up, right. We'll have a 48 percent job approval for him tomorrow that matches what Rasmussen has. But as his job approval comes up, he raises the floor for the Republicans. HANNITY: Am I wrong in saying that any -- if people don't vote in the House races, that's a half a vote for Pelosi. MCLAUGHLIN: Right. HANNITY: If they vote for a Democrat, they are voting for Pelosi. (CROSSTALK) SCHOEN: And fortunately-- HANNITY: You vote for a Democratic senator, you are voting for Schumer. SCHOEN: And fortunately, Sean, the Democrats are mobilized. Now Republican enthusiasm has come up substantially since the Kavanaugh hearings, but we are seeing the same level of visibility and activism in Democratic districts. HANNITY: I agree with you. I agree. And look, a lot of it is anti-Trump hate that's been ginned up for two solid years. But nobody can doubt, lowest unemployment numbers for African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Asian- Americans, women in the workplace. SCHOEN: Fortunately, the Republicans don't do as good of a job as you do in delivering that message. MCLAUGHLIN: But I go back to the 63-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What you say to Republican side, what should they be saying? MCLAUGHLIN: The 63 million Trump voters out there. And if they get complacent because only 90 million votes in the midterm election, if they get complacent and say the president is taking care of it, and stay home, we'll lose. if they get fired up as the Democrats do and come out and win, come in and vote-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They'll win. MCLAUGHLIN: -- we'll be able to win. HANNITY: But so, it could if Republicans win Senate seat and hold the House, that would be massive. MCLAUGHLIN: Right. Sean-- (CROSSTALK) SCHOEN: That would be -- that would be Armageddon for the Democrats. We have to, and I predict will, but narrowly win the House. I think they-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You're predicting by four seats. SCHOEN: Yes. I am saying it's going to be tight. That's what all the public ratings are going to say. (CROSSTALK) MCLAUGHLIN: I think it's too close to call in the House right now. HANNITY: Too close to call in the House. MCLAUGHLIN: And we have to look at Pelosi and get the Republicans fired up, because she means open borders, more taxes, less jobs, and government run health care. SCHOEN: We need no impeachment, centrism on moderate Democratic Party. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know they are going to -- it's going to be endless. That's what it's going to be, not to help the American people. SCHOEN: We need a compromise on immigration, education, and health care. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Yes. You keep dreaming, not with this crowd of radicals. That's not going to happen. SCHOEN: I'm not a radical, Sean. HANNITY: No, you're not. Don't listen to Doug if you are a Democrat because he might actually help you win. All right. Good to see you both. This is, listen, if you don't get out and vote, you will get the government it deserves -- there's only so much I can tell you. Nancy Pelosi is not great. It's not going to be good. We'll handle it, if it happens, but we have a better option, you voting. Up next, huge deep state news continues to be exposed. Big report, John Solomon, that he just broke. He will join us with George and Simona Papadopoulos, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Now a bombshell report about the deep state, John Solomon, listen to this. Explosive story out from The Hill tonight, "A convenient omission, Trump campaign advisor denied collusion to FBI source early on." Now, it's about the FBI ignoring exculpatory evidence in their FISA warrant applications. John Solomon joins us along with former Trump campaign aide, George Papadopoulos, his wife Simona who fought so hard for his defense. John, I'll let you break it down. JOHN SOLOMON, VICE PRESIDENT, THE HILL: Sure. This is really simple. Remember, the FBI opened up the entire Trump collusion investigation on the suspicion that George had some collusion going on behind the scenes with the Russians, specifically related to Hillary Clinton's e-mails and the hacking. Just a few weeks after they open that investigation, George has a conversation with an FBI informant, a professor named Halper, in London, and he tells Halperin. He is going to tell it way better than I am. But he tells them, we weren't colluding, I wasn't interested and in fact, including with the Russians would be treason, we didn't do it. The FBI has that in its possession. Its obligation is to shut down the investigation or find other evidence, what do they do? They don't tell the court about this, leave this out of the FISA application, and they pivot to the Steele dossier and other things which are far less credible in their minds than the original allegation about George. And so, this is really evidence of innocence. Withheld from the court, withheld from the American people. And all these facts-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, it sounds like Andrew Weissmann's history. And don't forget, fraud was committed on the FISA court, four times, because they purposely withheld where the information came from, bought and paid for by Hillary. And they withheld from the court the bulk of evidence was the unverified, uncorroborated dossier. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: Simona, you went to bat for your husband when he couldn't speak for himself. You know, I hate to say -- now, remember, Lisa Page said there is no evidence. Nine months, that's when they started their leak strategy, their insurance policy. And remember Strzok said there is no there-there. Even they said it, and yet, they used lie about him. SIMONA MANGIANTE PAPADOPOULOS, GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS' WIFE: That's what I try to stress since that, they number one, I am a direct witness to what happened to George. I come from Europe and I know the background-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You're from Italy. S. PAPADOPOULOS: I'm from Italy. HANNITY: Right. S. PAPADOPOULOS: Exactly not Russian. HANNITY: People say, I know people write that all the time. S. PAPADOPOULOS: I don't know, I can try to cook spaghetti. HANNITY: Yes. S. PAPADOPOULOS: Anyway, I insisted there were so many exculpatory evidences, and that's why you (Inaudible) I really wish that the truth can come out, because I know the sentence has been fair, but I think he doesn't deserve that one way. HANNITY: But here's the thing. George, this is -- look, I would say, don't open your case up because in two weeks - - anyone can suck up two weeks of their life, and I wouldn't want you to open yourself up to something further. So, you are in a tough spot. But this is what -- what John is reporting is true, anything you can add? GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN AIDE: All I can add about this is that John is absolutely right. I actually have zero Russia contacts or connections whatsoever. From after a year of researching my situation and John's excellent reporting it seems that I was completely set up by western intelligence masquerading as Russians. Now if that's true and certain people in our intelligence community knew it the whole time that these people that I encountered were actually western intelligence, and not Russian what on earth am I getting in trouble for? HANNITY: And you said from the beginning it didn't happen. That's what John is saying. G. PAPADOPOULOS: Absolutely. I told this person, Stephen Halper, you know, just stay away from me. HANNITY: And he said it. G. PAPADOPOULOS: And it's apparently exactly what happened, yes. HANNITY: John, where do we go with this? What does he do here, I mean-- SOLOMON: Sean, I got to tell you this tonight, the spin coming out of the Justice Department is absolutely amazing, I would call it un-American. People are telling me tonight they don't think the Justice Department had an obligation to tell the courts about exculpatory information. HANNITY: Wow. SOLOMON: Think about that statement for a second. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That is a total lie. SOLOMON: Yes. And in the FISA court, where the accused someone like George, doesn't have a representative, a lawyer to defend them. It's all in secret, can you imagine that sentiment being shared with Congress, or to the judges on the FISA court, I would like to see how long that lasts. HANNITY: What do you do after this? G. PAPADOPOULOS: We're just looking to move on with our lives right now and start a family. HANNITY: You are going to -- and you are going to go after people that have mistreated you? G. PAPADOPOULOS: Anybody that has mistreated me I'm going after. HANNITY: And you are going to see Gowdy and Goodlatte this week. G. PAPADOPOULOS: In a couple of days. We want the truth out there. HANNITY: OK. She really fought for you, congratulations. G. PAPADOPOULOS: That's why I love her to death. HANNITY: Good for you. S. PAPADOPOULOS: I love him. Thank you. HANNITY: All right. When we come back, a video that should make Bozo O'Rourke in Texas and supporters cringe, next. HANNITY: All right. Leftist and media darling Beto basil or bozo O'Rourke or like I said bozo, he's garnered a passion of following. However, a new Campus Reform video illustrates just how little his fans actually know about him, his career or his so-called accomplishments. This is priceless. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you had to make a decision right now, who do you think you would support? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Beto. I would probably vote for Beto. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of what I know that's only Beto. If election were tomorrow who do you think you'd be more likely to vote for? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Beto. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Any accomplishments in his career that you can point to that would make him a good person for office? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am not aware of a lot of specific accomplishments that he has made. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Any accomplishments that Beto that you would point to? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't know any so I can't say any for that. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Is there any that you would point to as things like, yes, he has accomplished for this? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think he has accomplished like honestly, he needs to get his name out there. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Beto bozo, no accomplishments but we want to vote for him. Unbelievable. You know, it's just like, you know, Bredesen in Tennessee, and McCaskill. Now tonight we showed you the ProjectVeritas.com. Go to their web site, look at their videos. They can't tell you what they really believe. They are purposely lying to you. You vote for Pelosi, you vote for any Democrat, you are voting for her. You vote for any Senate Democrat you are voting for Schumer. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham live, now. Laura? Load-Date: October 24, 2018 End of Document Democrats having no answer to the immigration crisis and the media's coverage and narrative of the caravan invasion; President Trump is blasted for claiming to be a nationalist Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 23, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8194 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: James Trusty, Eileen Blessinger, Tom Homan, Steve Scalise, Preston Mitchum, Horace Cooper, Harmeet Dhillon, Sarah Badawi, Corey Lewandowski, John James Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: -- you vote for Pelosi. You vote for any Democrat, you're voting for here. You vote for any senate Democrat, you're for voting for Schumer. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham, live, now. Laura. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, thanks so much. By the way, it's Robert Francis O'Rourke, OK. Beto sounds cooler but his name is Robert Francis. HANNITY: Bozo, how about Bozo. INGRAHAM: So I'm just calling him RF. HANNITY: I like Bozo. INGRAHAM: Yes, that's a real subtle, Hannity, as usual. All right, great show tonight by the way, loved it. Fantastic. HANNITY: Thanks Laura. INGRAHAM: All right. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is "The Ingraham Angle" from Washington tonight. As the so-called caravan continues to swell in size, we're going to ask the questions are media brethren will not. Who is funding these efforts? How has it grown so quickly and what did the Democrats have to offer besides a bunch of cliches and bromides, and of course grandstanding? All those answers tonight. Plus, after Trump declared himself a nationalist last night, the media have a case of the vapors. They are labeling him a white nationalist. And tonight, we're going to examine the disturbing trend of the left pushing race at every turn. And we will bring you more footage from Raymond Arroyo's trip to Houston, this is so funny, and what he heard from women about Kavanaugh and the midterms might actually surprise you. Plus, Steve Scalise, Tom Homan, Corey Lewandowski, all here. But first, leftists aiding and abetting an invasion. That's the focus of tonight's "Angle." If you have been watching other networks, which of course you shouldn't be, well you are likely to have a very distorted view of reality when it comes to the caravan of thousands making their way to the U.S. border. The sympathetic overwrought coverage of this invading horde, you know, calling it a caravan is a misnomer and frankly sickening. The networks have dispatched teams of embedded reporters, I mean, reporters enclosed -- who are not so much covering the horde as covering for it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You see trucks full of freshly cooked tortillas, and incredible sort of Christian gestures of welcoming the stranger. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As a nation in the United States, we have to choose what kind of nation we are and treat them with respect. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- up fear of the stranger is a tactic that's as old as politics. That's what makes the teachings of Christ to welcome the stranger, so radical. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Who died and turned him into Joel O'Steen? Anyway, their biggest gripe is a president suggestion that middle eastern terrorist might be part of this peace-loving group of traveling mothers and children. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Take your camera, go into the middle and search. You are going to find MS-13, you're going to find middle eastern, you're going to find everything. DON LEMON, CNN HOST: He's ceasing on unsubstantiated right wing media reports that the caravan has been infiltrated by criminals and unknown middle easterners. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The reality here is, there is no specific evidence as far as we know. ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: Have you seen any evidence as to the president's claim there are middle easterners members of this caravan. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of course not. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, it turns out the president may be privy to more information than the bright lights at CNN headquarters and their reporters are ever privy to. Tonight, the spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security confirmed that the caravan includes "citizens of countries outside of central america, including countries in the Middle East, Africa, South Asia and elsewhere are currently traveling through Mexico toward the." And Vice President Pence said something else that is getting very little attention. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: What the president of Honduras told me was organized by leftist groups in Honduras, financed by Venezuela and sent north to challenge our sovereignty and challenge our border. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now that by the way, to toot our own horn, confirms what we reported last Friday night. Now, rather than betting with this ever- expanding horde of people surging toward the U.S. to violate the immigration laws or at least gain the system, and laboring to humanize them, all these reporters, why aren't the journalists doing their jobs and investigating who actually organized this crowd, and who is financing them? Now, the vice president just gave you a huge tip, run with it. Instead though, the media are strangely incurious about things like the arrest of Irineo Mujica. He's the director Pueblo Sin Fronteras, and the main organizer of the caravan that stormed the border last spring. Mujica is a renowned activist with dual U.S.-Mexican citizenship who you see here being arrested last week by Mexican authorities for allegedly attacking officials and resisting arrest when they intercepted the horde. Now, why was Mujica there in the first place? And what about Bartolo Fuentes? Guatemalan officials arrested him last week when the horde entered their country. Fuentes is a former Honduran opposition party leader and yet another immigration activist. Now, he's reportedly the main organizer of this latest invader caravan. Guatemala deported him back to Honduras and this all substantiates Vice President Pence's comment earlier today. But where are the journalists following up on this story? Who is funding Fuentes and Mujica? And what are their ultimate goals? Rather than doing actual reporting and digging into this, it's easier to take up the mantra of the left, embed yourself with the migrants, actually, act like you are a migrant, emotionally manipulate the audience and then dismiss Trump. It's just a heartless fearmonger. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Trump continues stoking fears over illegal immigration. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's easy for these voices of fearmongering on the right to say, oh, look this. This is threatening all these people. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You see he is stoking fear and lies. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is betting on this caravan vaguely for the midterm election to get people afraid and out to the polls. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Do they all read the same sheets in the morning? (Inaudible) marching order? Who do they get them from? They are all repeating the same lines. Do you notice there is no substantive solutions being offered? It's just a pejorative against Trump. The Democrats have no answers, zero answers to the immigration crisis. So, like their media enablers, they write it off as just Trumping, you know, he's just alarm as fearmonger. But that's not an answer. And just a few years ago they actually agreed with Trump. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked. SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D), CALIFORNIA: The day when America could be the welfare system for Mexico is gone. We simply can't afford it. SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: People who enter the United States without our permission are illegal aliens and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who enter the U.S. legally. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Will the real Chuck Schumer, the real Barack Obama, the real Dianne Feinstein, step forward? Well that was the way they were then. But now they are out of power. And Democrats have immigration amnesia. There is no crisis. What's the big deal? Joe Biden telling a reporter, "Trump's making it sound like they're breaking through the border. This is hysteria on his part" Well Joe, unless they take a hard left and go for a swim, where do you think they are headed? The president is sounding the alarm now because unlike your administration, Joe, he actually sees this looming danger and is trying to proactively shield the United States from it. The president saw what happened when the last so-called caravan swamped the border. And this current horde coupled with a number of illegals streaming across the border daily, will overwhelm the infrastructure and cause another crisis that is entirely avoidable. But still, Democrats refuse to be part of the solution. Instead, they are demagogy the issue and were unwilling to work with the president earlier this year to craft sensible legislation that might have avoided this crisis. Even when President Trump, think about this, offered amnesty to 2 million illegals in exchange for the construction of the wall and for some other common sense reforms about chain migration and so forth, the Democrats would have none of it. They didn't want to give Trump the victory. So, they ended up endangering the migrants and they ended up endangering the American people in opening this whole system up for further corruption. But now my friends, it's up to the American people. They will either allow Democrats to continue to ignore the obvious and permit rank lawlessness of the border or you the voters will empower the president with the majority he needs to protect our country. And as for the invading horde headed our way, they must be intercepted and sent back to their countries of origin. And the Justice Department should criminally and civilly prosecute if possible any NGO or individual organizing this crush on our borders. No one should be permitted to undermine our immigration laws, coach the migrants or destabilize the security and sovereignty of the United States of America, which is exactly the threat presented by this horde. Whether it's reported by the media or not, I don't care, those are the facts. If this keeps up, well, this is the only blue wave that we're going to see in November. See it? It's the blue flag of Honduras waving. We'll see that in November perhaps. And that's "The Angle." All right, joining us now for reaction, James Trusty, the former DOJ prosecutor and Eileen Blessinger is an immigration attorney here in Washington, D.C. Let's start with you James. Now, as someone who has worked on these issues at DOJ, what are the possible legal avenues for prosecuting these groups that are encouraging this lawlessness, coaching the migrants and basically assembling thousands of people on false pretenses? JASMES TRUSTY, FORMER DOJ PROSECUTOR: Well, it depends on a lot of facts that I'm not totally certain on at this point, but the bottom line is, if they are organizing and financing and trying to encourage people to cross illegally, to cross outside the points of entry. It's at least arguable that there is alien smuggling and racketeering charges that could be investigated, a lot of practical difficulties with that, a lot of factual underpinnings that we don't know at this point, but that's at least an option. INGRAHAM: Well, what about James, the idea of giving instructions sheets to migrants where things are written down on pieces of paper which is, you know, obviously tantamount to coaching a witness, but it is basically the instructions for gaining entry into the United States. TRUSTY: You know, the problem ultimately it needs a political solution but the legal aspect of that is, you could argue that they are aiding and abetting false statements for immigration purposes. But actually proving up that they are encouraging false entry as opposed to entries at a point where they are lawfully turning themselves in and seeking asylum is definitely going to be a problem there. INGRAHAM: Eileen, this is what Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State said today about the current situation. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKE POMPEO, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: The caravan will not cross our southern border illegally under any circumstances. If you seek to come here, go through the normal refugee process. If you apply for refugee status, a permanent solution is possible in Mexico or in a third country. But I can tell you with certainty that we are determined that illegal entry to the United States from this caravan will not be possible. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Eileen, domestic violence, a fear of gang activity in your hometown or your city or even your country are not any longer valid reasons for credible fear to claim credible fear as an asylee into the United States. So, aren't this really just economic migrants, people who want to come here to work or to be with family members who are already here. How is that typically either an asylee or possibly a refugee? EILEEN BLESSINGER, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: Actually, gang violence is not necessarily not qualified for asylum. You have to -- the way you qualify for asylum is showing them someone is going to harm you for something you can't change or shouldn't have to change. A lot of these people, a lot of the migrants that were coming, the people that I've interviewed at least at the border were coming here for political reasons. So, that tied with the gang violence shows that they have a basis to come here. INGRAHAM: When you -- I'm sorry to interrupt, but when they were interviewed, many of them by media types in Guatemala, they cited, well, you know, there is no work. If anything were saying there's no work. Then by the time they get to Mexico, you start hearing the stories changing as the NGO's like Pueblo Sin Fronteras and Casa (inaudible) and all these other groups end up in groups like them. I'm just paraphrasing because a lot if these groups have the same ultimate goals. And suddenly this narrative start changing. Then it is,oh, I live in incredible fear of XY and Z. But isn't this the case that the Central American countries are themselves, many of them are corrupt, don't run their economies all that well and so people feel like, god, I can come here, just credible fear, I get here, I get my foot in and I'm at the door and they put an ankle bracelet on and I rip it off. Isn't that really what's going on here in economic migration? BLESSINGER: OK, so that's not completely what is happening, and a lot of these people do leave their ankle bracelets on. I think it's important to know that we do have a legal process in place. People can't just come here and say, I want asylum. They have to actually pass what you call the credible fear process and interview with an asylum officer that's going to show that there is at least a possibility of winning an asylum claim. INGRAHAM: The asylum process however, James, is such that you claim credible fear and ultimately if you have those recited lines down, then you are driven to a bus depot or something like it, and you are basically released into the United States. Sometimes you go to a catholic relief services shelter, it's a Lutheran Services, and then you get, you know, sent all across the United States. We have 700,000 pending immigration cases in the country. We don't have the facility to do this. We don't have the infrastructure to do this. So this is tantamount. Everyone watching this should understand, to catch and release, and these migrants are smart enough to know this. Correct, James? TRUSTY: Well, I view it as a big problem for law enforcement. The longer lines you're saying. I mean, it's such a daunting task not just in terms of resources and numbers, but to not be able to instantly know whether any individual migrant is telling you a true story or a false one. There is absolutely people that have fear of gang murders and rapes and slavery taking place in their home country. They come to our border and they could use our help. But there is also demonstratively false stories where people are coached up to say, I'm not in a gang anymore, or I'm afraid of x, y and z, where it's not true. So I look at it kind of from the lens of law enforcement. The Border Patrol people and I think this is just an impossible task for them to process all these people and figure out true from false on the fly in these kind of field interviews that they conduct and come to rationale decisions. That's why the whole system needs an overhaul. It can't possibly be just a function of fine-tuning our border patrol or the resources that they have. INGRAHAM: All right, both of you. Yes. both of you thank you so much. And this is obviously a problem that's going to continue unabated until we develop a solution, and James just referred to a congressional solutions necessary. Former ICE acting director and Fox News contributor Tom Homan is with us and Louisiana Republican congressman and House majority whip Steve Scalise. Gentleman, thank you both for being here. Tom, I want to start with you given all your expertise in this matter. What is the one thing that could be done right now to help stem this tide? TOM HOMAN, FORMMER ICE ACTING DIRECTOR: Well actually there are two things. First of all, raise the asylum bar. As the attorney said, they get (inaudible) by an asylum officer, 88 percent of them pass asylum interview because they are coached on what to say. But when they get to court, if they get to court, more than 80 percent lose their case. So, we got to raise the asylum bar because the effect is too big. The second thing we do, look, if these families wanted due process, they have a right to claim asylum, there's only one way you can get to due process, Keep them in family (ph) residential center until they see a judge. Back in 2014, we first did this under Secretary J. Johnson. We kept them until they see a judge, and guess what? Eighty percent more lost their case. We put them on airplanes, send them south. The numbers (inaudible) if we show the (inaudible) and where you get your due process when a decision is made and you lose, you're going (inaudible). INGRAHAM: Congressman Scalise, we don't really have time to do anything before this midterm election. This is a national security issue and economic issue cost taxpayers billions of dollars to take all these people in, public school, health care, all of what we know. It's a health issue too because we don't know what people have coming in here. We have diseases in this country we haven't had for decades. What will congress do after the midterms to address the issue? REP. STEVE SCALISE, HOUSE MAJORITY WHIP: Laura, I think in the next two weeks you're really going to see this debate play out because ultimately that election in two weeks will help decide it. I am really glad that President Trump is putting such a sharp focus on this. Look, I mean, when you look at these -- it's like a parade going over. These aren't asylum- seekers. I mean, you can see and you've talked about this. You've highlighted the people that are coaching them along the way so that at the beginning of this march, they are talking about coming over here looking for jobs and by the time they get closer, they are being coached about how to finally try to get in here legally even though this is not what the legal process is supposed to be like. We need to change the law. We've had two different bills on the House floor. We've got actual votes to tighten these loopholes to actually close the loopholes that are allowing this. INGRAHAM: So what's the problem? Why is it not getting traction? This is a national emergency. I would pull everyone back from midterm campaigning to deal with this frankly. That important that we have thousands of people -- SCALISE: Look at this. INGRAHAM: -- maybe most of them are unarmed or all of them are unarmed for all we know. We don't know. This is an invasion into this country and the American people are seeing this play out they're like, this is like the phone is ringing and no one is home. No one is answering the phone here. SCALISE: And that's what you're seeing President Trump saying, look, we are not going to allow this. First of all, all the Latin American countries, all of those billions of dollars of foreign aid needs to be on the table. They need to be made very clear. INGRAHAM: They are already out of the Central America. SCALISE: If you do this, this is going to be a threat to your billions of dollars that you are getting. INGRAHAM: They're gone. SCALISE: But President Trump has already made that clear. This is going to be in jeopardy. And you saw Secretary of State Pompeo saying, we are not going to let you into our country. We have to treat this as an invasion but also you have to look at this as we are a nation of laws. We have said, just play by the rules. There are rules that you can play by but they are trying to gain the system. We have got to be very clear -- INGRAHAM: Have to be changed. SCALISE: -- that these laws have to be changed, and there is going to be an election in two weeks, in just two weeks. There are people that -- look, Pelosi wants open borders. This is a real impact on Pelosi's whole idea of having open borders. President Trump has done a great job of making this an election issue because the country is going to ultimately decide. INGRAHAM: They don't want -- SCALISE: Do we want to know from a national security open borders, I'm for it, national security. They are for open borders. INGRAHAM: Tom, the groups that are facilitating this, they are co- conspirators in the gaining of the system and the mass rush on the border. What can be done? HOMAN: What you describe is absolutely aiding and abetting and helping people make an illegal entry. That is a violation of a United States code 1324 which is alien smuggling. It's a felony. So HSI need to work with the partners in Mexico, identify these people and prosecute. INGRAHAM: Gentleman, we can do a whole hour on this. Thank you so much for joining us and Congressman Scalise, we're going to have you back on this issue and so many others. I love having you both on. And after he called himself a nationalist, President Trump is getting slammed all across the board. Guess what? They are playing the race card xenophobia, all the isms and the ifs. It doesn't. We're going to tell you why when we come back. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: They have a word, it sort of became old-fashioned. It is called a nationalist. And I say really, we are not supposed to use that word. You know what I am? I'm a nationalist, OK. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) INGRAHAM: And that one line sent the media and Democrats into a fit of rage. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is trying to do the America first thing and he's trying to lend a new vocabulary to it and now he's brought a nationalist and maybe it's a dog whistle to race as such. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are suggesting there is some kind of dog whistle there? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is. It is. It does provoke hate activity. It does provoke discrimination. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Send me a memo when we're going to retire that phrase. (Inaudible) to others even dog whistle wasn't strong enough. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When Donald Trump dais he's a nationalist, that is not a dog whistle, it's a fog horn to his base. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Merriam-Webster defines nationalism thusly, loyalty and devotion to a nation. In other words, loyalty and devotion to America. So where is the controversy? To examine that question let's bring in two of our favorites, Horace Cooper, senior fellow with the National Center for Public Policy Research and Preston Mitchum, he's the chair of the Washington Bar Association Young Lawyers Division. Preston, I want to start with you. Why is the notion of loyalty and devotion to country a "dog whistle?" PRESTON MITCHUM, CHAIR OF WASHINGTON BAR ASSOCIATION: Laura, we already know in this country what nationalism means. We've heard it used many times. We know that extreme nationalism is what catapulted Hitler to the person that he is and that we know (inaudible) be today and, though I won't go as far to call Trump Hitler, I will say that it smells very Hitler-ish. The problem with nationalism as a concept is that not only are you attempting to say that America's better than any other country, which on a surface level is a harmless term, surface level. When we peel back the layers, when we really start to have a conversation about what nationalism means and how it's been used against people who are Muslim, people of color, other folks who may not necessarily be "patriotic" in this country. A lot of violence has ensued against many of those people, and that is the harm of nationalism. INGRAHAM: One question about that is when Trump is talking about nationalism of the country, the country is very diverse. I mean, we have an increasing number of Latino Americans, African-Americans, people from Asia and Pacific Islanders. We have people from all over the world. He was referring to America, which is a very large, diverse population. So, again, why -- I'm not following, you know, and then he says Hitler-ish. I mean, his daughter is Jewish, his son- in-law is Jewish. He has the strongest relationship of any modern day president to Israel. So, are you then saying like -- I don't see how that computes. Our policy was before described as two pro Israel. Now you are saying it's Hitler-ish? MITCHUM: That's (inaudible) like I'm saying because someone is married to a black person that they can't be racist. Simply because their daughter -- (INAUDIBLE) INGRAHAM: That's pretty tough. HORACE COOPER, SENIOR FELLOW, NATIONAL CENTER FOR PUBLIC POLICY RESEARCH: That's very hard. That would be hard. INGRAHAM: That's pretty tough. MITCHUM: Yes, absolutely. You've lived in this country longer than I have so I'm surprised you would say it's hard, that we see it -- COOPER: Wait, wait -- (CORSSTALK) INGRAHAM: All right, Horace, I want to play -- Horace, I want to play -- this is what President Trump followed up, after he heard all of the, he's Hitler, he's pulled (inaudible). He's like everyone bad who ever lived because he's a nationalist. This is what he followed up with today. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: All I want for our country is to be treated well, to be treated with respect. For many years, other countries that are allies of ours, so full of allies, they have not treated our country fairly. So that said, I'm absolutely nationalist and I'm proud of it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: You know, I mean, so that's his latest. COOPER: This president loves this country. I watched during Hurricane Harvey when he went out and was a volunteer helping to distribute goods and services. If you watched the camera and you weren't paying attention to what the commentators were saying, what you saw was a person that liked the people that they encountered. This president is devoted to this country. Now, it's the strangest form of racism that I've ever seen that black Americans, Latino Americans and even Asian Americans have done better in this country relative to every other population. The Civil Rights Act was passed because blacks and minorities couldn't get work. Now, you've got five records of unemployment achievement for black Americans. It is the weirdest form of racism almost as weird as saying, you can be a racist while being married to a black person. MITCHUM: What does that have to do with nationalism? COOPER: He is working diligently to make it better for people who live in this country. MITHUM: Ask the people in Puerto Rico and what is he making it better for them because Puerto Rico, contrary to what many conservative -- COOPER: That's not what the government says. MITCHUM: It's part of (inaudible) of the United States. INGRAHAM: Guys, let's keep this focused. MITCHUM: -- and act like it was. INGRAHAM: OK, well, the Puerto Rican infrastructure was a disaster during eight years of Obama. It wasn't that -- it's been difficult for a long period of time. But that having been said, there's another issue I want to quickly get your take on, Andrew Gillum of course is the up-and-comer in Florida running against Ron DeSantis for the governorship. He said this on Hill T.V. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDREW GILLUM, DEMOCRATIC GUBERNTORIAL CANDIDATE, FLORIDA: I definitely think we are held to a different standard. And you know, I try not to spend a lot of time on what that is, rather focusing on what my contributions are and how we push past it. They don't expect much of me to begin with. They certainly didn't even expect me to be there. And now they are having to wrap their heads around what it means to have someone like me on the state and the national scene. (END VIDEO CLIP) LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Preston, how is this not playing the race card to divert attention from the FBI investigation? And the new thing is that got tickets to Hamilton and kind of lied about that. PRESTON MITCHUM, WRITER AND RACIAL JUSTICE ADVOCATE: We're considering that playing the race card when Ron DeSantis called him the equivalent of a monkey and a chimpanzee? INGRAHAM: He never said that. That's a complete lie. MITCHUM: He absolutely said that. INGRAHAM: He said monkey around. Monkey business. MITCHUM: So monkeying around is different between calling somebody a chimpanzee? Laura. Laura. INGRAHAM: I have heard so many people say that phrase. And to say that that -- Ron DeSantis, if that's what you're going to try to beat Ron DeSantis -- MITCHUM: We're not being historical. Ron DeSantis -- INGRAHAM: But why do you have to argue race? Precisely. If that's the case then why argue the race card? MITCHUM: Because there's a specific impact that black people experience in this country that many people are just not believing. That is not our fault that people are not believing -- INGRAHAM: So when Barack Obama wins reelection and get the majority of white voters was that racism, too? MITCHUM: And 57 percent of white women voted for Trump, that doesn't mean. You don't see that connection there? INGRAHAM: No, I don't. MITCHUM: That is a problem. HORACE COOPER, CO-CHAIR OF PROJECT 21: We have a problem in this country when you can see how much progress black Americans have made. We own more houses, we have more cars, we have more income, we have more billionaires than we have ever had, ever. You cannot say it's worse. You can say that we have made substantial. Those comments deny that progress, and they imply that this country is in fact opposed to the interests of -- MITCHUM: He's running for a governorship in Florida -- COOPER: And you can't win. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Just win on the merits. And he's ahead in the polls, so why is he complaining about it? He's ahead in the polls. MITCHUM: Because that is a fact of his lived experience. INGRAHAM: OK, gentlemen, great to have you on, love the panel, as always. What Raymond Arroyo heard from women voters about Kavanaugh in the midterms might surprise you. Another debate, coming up. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The way that Democrats use women and sexual assault to get a delay, that is a total turnoff. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No one has ever been treated like they treated him. And it was just hard to watch. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We loved Kavanaugh. We believed what he was saying. I hate to say it, I didn't believe her. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The lady seemed as if she was being used by politicians. And I think the Democrats, it will be their downfall. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That sounds awfully different from the narrative Democrats wanted us to believe. And that's not all. Thanks to a strong economy, labor force participation among prime age U.S. women aged 25 to 54 has actually risen to 75.2 percent from 73.3 percent three year ago. And unemployment among that group is at the lowest level since the 1950s. Between the backlash to Kavanaugh and the great economic fortunes, should Democrats be taking the female vote for granted? Joining us now to react, Harmeet Dhillon, an attorney and RNC chairwoman from California, and Sarah Badawi, a Democrat strategist and senior lobbyist for Progressive Change Campaign Committee. Sarah, I want to start with you on this. Look at these numbers, just economic numbers for women. More women in the labor force really since the 1990s, record number of people earning a good living, wages beginning to go up, you look at the chart there, since 2000, of course at the height of the tech boom and so forth. These are just staggeringly good economic numbers for women. SARAH BADAWI: Sure. So those economic numbers are good, but having a job and being a part of the labor force is the bare minimum for women. When suburban women go home and talk to their families, they are thinking about health care. And when Mitch McConnell is on television promising to vote to repeal the ACA again, taking health care coverage away from millions of Americans, that matters. And when he promises to cut Social Security benefits for millions of seniors, that matters. INGRAHAM: When did he do that? BADAWI: Just the other day. He was saying to make up for the deficit we're going to have to cut Social Security benefits. INGRAHAM: How does the Progressive Change committee, committee for change advocate for reforming Social Security, how do you guys think we should? BADAWI: I think Democrats up and down the ticket all across the country are fighting tooth and nail in stark contrast to not only to protect Social Security, but -- INGRAHAM: You know it's not sustainable. You probably know math better than I do. I'm not very good at math, but the numbers obviously are not sustainable. You've got to make changes to Social Security at some point. Nobody wants to. BADAWI: Actually I think it's perfectly sustainable because what you'd do is you just raise the cap on income tax so people can see the solvency of the Social Security fund for generations to come. But regardless, I think what we are seeing is a stark contrast between what one party is offering and the other -- INGRAHAM: You guys, the left, Harmeet, cares about really a couple issues. Health care, definitely they are pushing the health care issue. But I pay for my own health care. It's gone up I think 60 percent since Obamacare. And that was when you pay for your own as a small business owner. So I had health expenses before Obamacare but it's like through the roof. It's like a joke. It's a complete joke. That was after Obama. So with that, what is it with the suburban female voter, though? Is it uncomfortable with the tonality of some of what they are hearing in the Trump administration? Because the economic news is great, and some of these other issues, they don't seem like they are bubbling up to the surface as they would normally like in a presidential election. HARMEET DHILLON, ATTORNEY: I just heard Democrats want to raise taxes. Raising taxes is the solution to every problem. But I think women are more complex than that. And I think that for each of these women who like to have a job, some of them also like to have the choice of working at home and being moms, and that's a perfectly legitimate choice. And they want their husbands and their want their families and they want their kids to have futures that are bright and have a lot of opportunity. So these numbers are coupled with amazing opportunities for Americans. And we saw the lead of the story about how women reacted negatively to the caricature of them as only caring about one side of an issue. We care about all sides of the issue. We own businesses. We provide for our employees. We don't like paying taxes, and we like to have a bright future. So I think Democrats are taking us for granted as a cookie-cutter approach. INGRAHAM: And I think that one of the interesting things I think you saw when Raymond was interviewing all these people, and it's a self-selecting group, people that go to a Trump rally. But I've noticed this with folks who are not all that political. The ability to separate some of the tweets they might not like from the president and the way America is, outside of the bubble of metropolitan areas where everyone is attacking each other in restaurants, most people just want to go home and live their lives. And they have more money in their pocket. They are able to go on vacation. And they feel more optimistic about the future. That's not a FOX News poll, though those are great polls. These are polls that are Pew Gallup, people are more confident about the future, women and men. And you can't say it's nothing to do with Trump. It's something to do with Trump. He is the guy who is in charge, and if it were going badly, Democrats would be saying, it's horrible, and Trump is a reason. BADAWI: That maybe true for some women, but I think the electorate of women engaging with this midterm election is going to be completely different than what we saw in 2016, especially in the suburbs. They're more diverse that ever, they're younger than ever. INGRAHAM: What do they want? Tell me what they want that they are not getting in the greatest economy that I have ever experienced in my lifetime, and I'm a lot older than you. BADAWI: I think some people just look at the landscape of politics, and they are appalled by what they are seeing. And some are going to vote that moral conscience. INGRAHAM: What specifically are they appalled by? BADAWI: I think seeing the majority party try to strip health care from millions of people, to try to cut earned benefits for seniors, not doing anything about the rising costs for drug. But I think something that is really important here -- INGRAHAM: They're doing more for drug prices than Obama ever did. Leave the politics out of it. I'm not a big -- BADAWI: We see it in the way suburban women are turning out in record numbers in special elections. Suburban women -- INGRAHAM: Won the two Democrat districts in their special election. BADAWI: Doug Jones, historically from a red state -- I'm happy to see Democrats pick up seats. INGRAHAM: Doug Jones is going to lose the next election. BADAWI: Same thing with Conor Lamb in Pennsylvania. We also saw Ralph Northam. All of these people in historically red and purple places being carried into office by energized suburban women voters. DHILLON: You know what women don't like? They don't like to hear things like Kyrsten Sinema say that women who stay home are bloodthirsty leeches. And so we don't like caricatures, and that's what the Democrats are painting us as. BADAWI: I'm a Democrat and I don't agree with that either. DHILLON: You just said we're all single issue voters which we aren't. (CROSSTALK) BADAWI: Retirement security, health care, it's many different issues that come at it from a variety -- DHILLON: You actually assumed that because this political system is going on that everyone is going to vote a single way, and they aren't, and we are seeing that. And the women I know, the women who work in the professional world, the women who own businesses, and the women who want futures for their kids, they are looking at the whole panoply, and they're saying I like having more money in my pocket. I like having choices in my health care, and I like my government not going bankrupt because of dumb Social Security policies. BADAWI: Or tax policy. INGRAHAM: Guys, this is such a great -- can I say guys? Is that even allowed? I never know what to say. BADAWI: I'm OK with it. INGRAHAM: Ladies, what do you say, people, existence, whatever. DHILLON: Persons. INGRAHAM: Great to have you both on. Thanks so much. And Corey Lewandowski is here to react to the latest leftist mob tactic, and the caravan, his first reaction to stories of some physical altercation between himself and White House chief of staff John Kelly. Stay right there. INGRAHAM: If you thought the aggressive tactics of the left were going to die down after the Kavanaugh confirmation, well, think again. Congressman Kevin McCarthy's California office was vandalized. Someone threw a boulder through his window, that very subtle, and robbed the office on Saturday. And this was right after Mitch McConnell was heckled by "ditch Mitch" protester while having dinner with his wife in Kentucky. The attacker threw McConnell's food out the door. Oh, my goodness. Chuck Schumer only pointed out the vandalism, of course, in McCarthy's office, but they only noted that a pipe bomb was found, or something resembling a pipe bomb was found in George Soros' mailbox. Corey Lewandowski, co-author of the new book, "Trump's Enemies," and former Trump campaign manager joins us here in the studio. Corey, it feels a lot like -- we say this a lot, but why are these confrontations going so crazy out there? COREY LEWANDOWSKI, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Because you've got people like Eric Holder saying when they are down, make sure you kick them. You've got people like Maxine Waters calling for incivility. You're making sure that people who are working in government service, whether it's Sarah Huckabee Sanders at a restaurant, Kirstjen Nielsen, the secretary of Homeland Security, or others, Ted Cruz, are being asked to leave restaurants by these mobs that are being encouraged by the Democrats and the left because they have no message for where they want to take the country. Their only message is incivility and chaos and bedlam, and that doesn't play well in the midterm elections. INGRAHAM: In Morning Joe, that's what my name for them is, they were on today, basically saying whatever was found in the mailbox is Trump's fault. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC HOST: We heard the name George Soros brought up by the president of the United States. We've heard the name George Soros brought up by backbenchers in the Republican Congress, blaming him for funding these caravans, blaming him for funding one fake conspiracy after another. We've got to point the finger back to the president and these Republican members of Congress that have just been spreading these conspiracy theories that have anti-Semitic overtones to them towards George Soros. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I don't even know if George Soros is Jewish. I have no idea. But the idea that this president with the closest relationship, I said this earlier, with Israel, Jared, Ivanka, I don't get that line of argument at all, but that's where they are. LEWANDOWSKI: He literally has a daughter that is Jewish. I would not call that anti-Semitic. You can't become more the antithesis of anti-Semitic when your own daughter -- INGRAHAM: Bibi Netanyahu. LEWANDOWSKI: And you grandchildren are Jewish, by the way. But on top of that, right, what Joe doesn't want to talk about, what the left doesn't want to talk about is the guest you had on earlier tonight, Steve Scalise, a man who has actually assaulted, attacked, almost murdered in cold blood by a man who was a Bernie Sanders supporter, a self-proclaimed Bernie Sanders socialist who wanted to go and kill Republicans. That is what the real crimes are. That's what the left is perpetrating here. But the mainstream media, that doesn't fit their narrative. INGRAHAM: All right, Corey, just because we love you, this was the montage that the media was running with today about you and John Kelly. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: As breaking news goes, this is certainly something. An argument between Chief of Staff John Kelly and former senior campaign official Corey Lewandowski turned physical. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: CNN has learned White House chief of staff John Kelly and President Trump's former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski got into a heated argument in the West Wing, this back in February. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Chief of Staff John Kelly grabbed former senior campaign official Corey Lewandowski by the caller. (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: What happened? LEWANDOWSKI: I'm a senior campaign official. I thought I ran the campaign. Can't I get a little credit from CNN at least? Just a campaign manager may be the right thing. I can't even get the credit. INGRAHAM: What happened? LEWANDOWSKI: John and I have a great relationship. We are both on the Trump-Pence agenda, and that's where it was. What may or may not have taken place ten months ago, eight months ago, is completely irrelevant to where we are today. This is a story that no one talked about because it wasn't a big deal INGRAHAM: A near brawl, it's a near brawl. LEWANDOWSKI: It didn't come to a near brawl by any stretch of the imagination. INGRAHAM: What was it about. LEWANDOWSKI: John and I have had very passionate views about making sure the president's team was ready for the midterm elections. This has now gone on, and I've been very candid that early in the administration, I wanted to make sure they were ready for what is about to transpire in two weeks. And we've come to the resolution that he's got a great team. We're all on the same team, and that's the Trump-Pence agenda. INGRAHAM: Kelly's chief of staff, things are going pretty well. The president is up at 47 percent approval. People are in a great mood. It looks like we're maybe turning about some of these more difficult elements in the midterm election cycle. You know what I said, we come from an ethnic family. If you are not fighting, you are not getting anything done. I'm sorry, I thought this was a big snore. It made it more interesting for me. LEWANDOWSKI: It's amazing, John and I are both from Boston, just north of Boston. We're both guys who are very passionate. And the bottom line is, we are moving somewhere and we're going to set a historic precedent where we're actually going to gain seats in the Senate, hold the House majority. That's because of the leadership of the Trump-Pence team. INGRAHAM: I wouldn't want to wrestle neither of you. You are both very strong. I want no part of it, but you could do something for charity. I would turn this into a charity thing. Corey, it's always great to see you. Thanks so much. LEWANDOWSKI: Thank you. And Cory Booker, we are going to get into that tonight. John James, why isn't he a household names? While the media obsesses over Democratic challengers like Beto O'Rourke, we'll ask James why he thinks the media -- (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I love you, too. Thank you all. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're a rock star. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. No, it's just so many great people. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Really you are. You can't go anywhere -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's really gotten kind of a rock star reception last night in Des Moines. You could really feel that electricity among about 500 people who showed up to see her. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Media types gushing about Democratic rock stars just in the last 24 hours. I kid you not. Let's play a little game. Republican John James has closed the gap to seven points in his challenge against Michigan Senator Debbie Stabenow. Beto O'Rourke likewise trails by seven in his race to unseat Ted Cruz. But according to Google news, a Beto O'Rourke search 2.68 million results. John James, 82,100. Here to react, Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate in Michigan, John James. John it's great to see you, as always. Any guesses as to why you're not the subject of these glowing media profiles? Because a lot of people out there I've talked to do think you are a rock star, by the way. JOHN JAMES, (R) MICHIGAN SENATE CANDIDATE: Well, I'm not a rock star. I'm just a servant. But I can guess that the liberal media is dealing with me the way they deal with a lot of issues. They're ignoring them and hoping they will go away. Well, they can't ignore me and I won't go away just like the issues that are facing Michigan that Debbie Stabenow has ignored for decades. We are surging in the polls. We went from 23 to 18 to nine, and now seven. We outraised Debbie Stabenow by double last quarter. And we just had a rally last week that got 4,000 people when Bernie Sanders struggled to get 1,000 last week. We really love the momentum, and if you'd like to learn please go to JohnJamesforsenate.com. We'd love to have you on board. INGRAHAM: This is a big deal. Stabenow is a fixture in Washington. She's part of the swamp. And you represent something, again, that the American media don't want to recognize, a conservative African-American. And when we come back, we're going to talk about what's happening in another state that I want your reaction on. This is Andrew Gillum's incendiary comments earlier today that African-American politicians, namely liberal, are treated differently. John James will stay with us. When we come back, we'll address that. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Your reaction to Andrew Gillum's comments I just mentioned that black politicians are treated to a different standard. John? JAMES: My father was raised in the Jim Crow south, and he taught me to never make excuses and to do everything that I could to excel. That's why I made it to West Point, deployed in Operation Iraqi Freedom, and brought all my men back home as a Ranger qualified Apache pilot, and grew my family business. I believe in a red, white, and blue message, not white or black message. And that's why my message is resonating, because we're all Americans and we need to push past the identity politics, make sure we bring people together. And -- yes. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS CHANNEL HOST: John James, Michigan voters are watching tonight. I really appreciate you're joining us and thank you for your service to this great nation. And coming up next, of course, the great Shannon Bream and the FOX NEWS @ NIGHT team have another phenomenal show and I can't wait to get home to watch the whole thing. Load-Date: October 24, 2018 End of Document Trump: Caravan A Disgrace For Democrats; The Left's Mob-Rule Tactics; Republican Minnesota Attorney General Candidate, Doug Wardlow Calling On Keith Ellison And The Democrats' Bias For The Sexual Scandals He's Involved With; House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi Said That If She Would Be Elected As Speaker Of The House, She Might Use The Subpoena Powers As A Bargaining Chip Against President Trump; With 15 days To Go Before The midterms, The Ongoing Crisis In The U.S. Southern Border Was Being Used By Other Politicians Who Want To Regain Power In Both The House And The Senate Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 22, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 5884 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sebastian Gorka, Geraldo Rivera Guests: Anthony Scaramucci, Sean Spicer, Larry Elder Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Welcome to HANNITY. A lot of news and my opening monologue coming up. First, we listen back to the president. His rally with Ted Cruz in Houston, Texas,. (PRESIDENT TRUMP'S SPEECH) HANNITY: All right. President Trump just wrapping up his massive huge rally in Houston, Texas, where he is out campaigning for Senator Ted Cruz and many House members in Texas. We're going to show you the best moments from what was a raucous rally tonight. Plus, we have full coverage of the looming crisis now building at our southern border at this hour. A caravan with as many as 14,000 illegal immigrants marching through Mexico headed right to our southern border lured by the Democrats' push for, what, lawlessness, open borders, eliminating ICE, sanctuary cities, sanctuary states, free healthcare in California. And these migrants are just weeks away from causing what could be a massive showdown, a dangerous showdown at our border. The president vowing to block their entry. And also coming up tonight, we will break down the extreme risks and the costs that are posed by this enormous caravan of illegal immigrants. And also tonight, more examples, the latest example of liberal, leftist, radical, Democratic mob rule from just over the weekend. And we'll highlight another glaring double standard on the left. Will Democrats apply the Kavanaugh standard to Keith Ellison and demand an FBI investigation over his misconduct allegations? Or Corey Booker or anybody else? Sit tight, buckle up, we have a lot to cover in tonight's breaking news, opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. The president just wrapped up a massive rally, huge Texas sized rally in Houston where he campaigned for Senator Ted Cruz in his fight against Beto Bozo O'Rourke. Look at your screen. With over 100,000 RSVPs, a colossal crowd of Texans packing into the stadium, standing in line for over 24 hours to get in, many tailgating outside the rally for a good part of the day. And as you can see, it was a massive event. And tonight, the president was fired up. He covered a wide range of issues, but also issued this important warning about this looming shutdown and showdown at our southern border. Take a look at this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: A large group of people, they call it a caravan. (BOOS) TRUMP: Do you know how the caravan started? Does everybody know? I think the Democrats had something to do with it and now they're saying, I think we made a big mistake. Because people are seeing how bad it is, how pathetic it is, how bad our laws are. They made a big mistake. So as the caravan -- and look, that is an assault on our country. (CHEERS) TRUMP: That's an assault. And in that caravan, you have some very bad people. You have some very bad people. And we can't let that happen to our country. And it's not. We need a wall built fast. Fast. (CHEERS) TRUMP: We have to protect our borders. We don't have borders we don't have a country. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The president is exactly right. Let me make this perfectly clear. A very serious, dangerous situation is about to boil over at our southern border. You have a highly organized motive and undocumented trove of migrants headed straight to the United States as we speak. And over the weekend, thousands of illegal immigrants, mostly from Central America, they broke through the fencing on a bridge at Mexico's southern border, with Guatemala. Others jumped in the river below swimming or floating on makeshift rafts. And as the crowd forced its way across, many Mexican police officers, they were assaulted. Some seriously injured. Now, successfully, across Mexico's border with Guatemala, thousands of migrants are continuing their march right here to our southern border in the United States. Now, this march puts both Americans and migrants, and if our military needs to go down to the border, in serious danger. Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, now she issued a warning that dangerous Mexican cartels will likely try to exploit this caravan: This is allowed to, in fact, continue. We can say for certain innocent people are going to be hurt. We cannot have that. And meanwhile, our Secretary of State Mike Pompeo issued concerns about the political motivations, the incitement of violence by some of the caravan's organizers, some have been caught on camera actually burning and defiling our American flag in support of, quote, the caravan. As you can see right here, two men burning this American flag, featuring a painted on swastika in front of the American embassy in Honduras. And, of course, we don't really know who any of these undocumented migrants are. Where are they from? Who brought them here? Why are they coming here? An obvious major security concern for the country. In addition to the serious safety concerns, it is so important to remember that illegal immigration carries a serious huge massive financial burden to this country. These migrants, if they make it across the U.S. border, you the American people -- you will pay their legal costs. We'll end up paying their educational costs, their health care costs. Some of them are incarcerated, you'll pay for that, too. We have spent billions and billions of dollars in the last decade alone. And according to a study in 2017, American taxpayers were on the hook for nearly $135 billion in expenses related to illegal immigration. We had a wall that protects both sides. Now, the media wants to play down the caravan or use it to attack the president. By the way, this includes Univision's Jorge Ramos, who's been on this program. He's tracking the migrants in Mexico, seemingly encouraging all this. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JORGE RAMOS, UNIVISION: And something really important is that the vast majority of these people are not criminals. They're not terrorists. And they're not even immigrants. They're refugees. And as a nation, in the United States, we have to choose what kind of nation we are and treat them with respect. We cannot prejudge them. We cannot say all of them are criminals, all of them are rapists -- that is not true. So, what we have to do is to listen to them, hear their cases and if they deserve political asylum, then grant it to them. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He can't possibly -- he can't possibly vouch for any of these people, let alone all of these people. And we have laws, Jorge, in the United States. We are a sovereign country. Respect our laws, respect our sovereignty. We believe in immigration, but legal immigration. And without a doubt, as you can see, you have both members of the caravan, the American people, if they make it to our southern border, there will be a dangerous situation unfolding. And the president is in a terrible position. You can't have thousands of illegal immigrants rushing across our border. And Mexico must not allow this group to walk through its country unabated. If we had the fully constructed robust wall, guess what? The risk for all on both sides would be mitigated. But here we are, in a showdown, once again. Why? Because of the Democratic Party. Let's see -- the party of lawlessness, sanctuary cities, amnesty, sanctuary states, open borders, the people that keep telling us they want to eliminate ICE, the protection that we have on our borders. And perhaps Democrats tonight should listen to their own advice from just a few short years ago. This is hypocrisy on steroids and human growth hormone. Remember they actually cared about border security, or so they said. They cared about the rule of law or so they said. Apparently they don't anymore, because none of them are speaking out tonight. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in. SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: People who enter the United States without our permission are illegal aliens and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who enter the U.S. legally. BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: Those who enter our country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law. And because we live in an age where terrorists are challenging our borders, we cannot allow people to pour into the U.S. undetected, undocumented and unchecked. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh, they used to support Donald Trump's position. Now, sadly, these Democrats -- they have moved so far radical left that what you just saw is almost unrecognizable today. It's the party of no law, no order, no sovereignty, no due process, no equal justice under the law, a party that spurs on mob rule as we have been following now for two consecutive weeks, encouraging incivility against their political opponents. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CLINTON: You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. That's why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and/or the Senate, that's when civility can start again. REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: Please don't just come here today and then go home. Go to the Hill today. Get up and please, get up in the face of some Congress people. ERIC HOLDER, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL: Michelle always says that, you know, when they go low, we go high. No. No. When they go low, we kick 'em. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Not welcome anymore anywhere. Get up in their face. So what we're witnessing are angry mobs of protesters doing exactly what Maxine said, confronting prominent Republicans, conservatives everywhere and telling them they're not wanted, to get out of the country. How do we know? Over the weekend, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell for the fourth time was harassed again, just sitting there with his wife eating dinner. And it got ugly. Take a look. (VIDEO CLIP PLAYS) HANNITY: You don't belong in this country? Just prior to the video being shot, literally the woman that shot the video said this guy slams his fist down at the table where Mitch McConnell and his wife are eating, took their, you know, whatever take home food they had, threw it out the door of the restaurant. No one is safe from this angry mob or mobs as they're not popping up anywhere. Even former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, how old is he? In his 90s? He was shouted down. Take a look. (VIDEO CLIP PLAYS) HANNITY: Now, everyone should disavow this kind of conduct. No person on either side of the aisle needs to be harassed like this. Our problems, our disagreements, well, we have an election in 15 days. It should be solved at the ballot box. Democrats should be disavowing this type of behavior before someone gets hurt or worse. And they refuse, almost all of them, to say a single word. Just, you know as they say nothing about the caravan. Nothing. Which brings us to our third issue, which is the growing massive double standard inside the Democratic Party. It was not long ago when nearly every Democrat enthusiastically called for an FBI investigation. Remember? The seventh investigation into Justice Kavanaugh over what we found out and knew ahead of time was totally uncorroborated allegations. But now there are zero calls for the FBI to get involved over the multiple allegations of physical and repeated emotional and verbal abuse against Keith Ellison, the number two at the DNC, the deputy chair who wants to be Minnesota's next attorney general. Last night at a debate, Ellison's challenger Doug Wardlow confronted him over these allegations with his radical ties to racist anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan and others. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DOUG WARDLOW, (R) ATTORNEY GENERAL NOMINEE, MINNESOTA: There are serious and troubling allegation of domestic violence that have been levelled against Mr. Ellison by two different women. And those two different women have brought those allegations forward and they are about conduct that's pretty recent in time. That is not a situation where it's just naked allegation. There is overwhelming evidence in the nine report (Ph). There are witnesses. Mr. Ellison here has been associated with Louis Farrakhan, a terrible anti- Semite for quite a long time. And Mr. Farrakhan is someone who said just a few days ago he compared Jews to termites. Keith Ellison has regularly stood up for rallied and raised money for people who have murdered police. He's a cheer leader for cop killers. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And amid these allegations Ellison's lead in the race has evaporated. By the way, funny after eight years of Obama there emerges a picture of Barack Obama with Louis Farrakhan just like he hangs out with Jeremiah Wright and (Inaudible). Unbelievable. How did they hide that for eight years? And meanwhile, in Missouri Democratic incumber Claire McCaskil she is also dealing with some serious allegations that her husband being accused of domestic violence against his previous wife. Is she going to speak up? Remember the standard Democrats put forth in the Kavanaugh hearings. Thirty-six years later, you know what? Every woman is to be believed. Guilt by accusation. No due process. No presumption of innocence. Will Democrats live by the same standard if it's a member of their own party? Guess what? Crickets from McCaskill. Crickets from Dianne Feinstein. Crickets from anybody on that sanctimonious Senate judiciary committee. The answer is a resounding no. It's not about the issue. It's always been about power and politics. So, it's clear Democrats are now suffering politically from what is a huge, blatant double standard. And the mob rule taking place all over the country. The so-called blue wave, well it's now evaporating right before our very eyes if it ever really existed. And top Democrats they're now trying to manage expectations and play down the results come 15 days from now. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TOM PEREZ, CHAIR, DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE: We always knew that this election was going to be close. I don't use the term blue wave. I always talk about the need for the blocking and tackling. I always talk about the need for organizing to make sure you are leading with your values. SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D), VERMONT: A lot of people talk about this blue wave and all of that. I don't believe it. I happen to think that on election night you are going to find a very, very close situation. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: In 15 days, 15 days, two weeks from tomorrow, you have all of the power to shock the world again. Remember, this Democratic Party of radicals and mob rule, they have no plan at all to improve the lives of the forgotten men and women in this country. The American people. They just want to oppose and hate Trump around every corner. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi even admitted that if elected speaker she's now planning to use subpoena powers as a bargaining chip against the president? Really? Is that going to help the American people that's going to create jobs? Is that going to increase our security? Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: If you take control of the House, how much will Democrats use the suspect subpoena power that comes with the majority to investigate and go after not just the president but the administration broadly? REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA, MINORITY LEADER: Strategically. I don't -- as I said it's about bringing people together. In addition to any subpoena power, and subpoena power is interesting. To use it, or not to use it. It's a great power to have in your quiver in terms of negotiating on other subjects. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Any vote for any Democrat in any House district is a vote for Pelosi. And if 16 days from now you don't want to wake up the morning after election day, 15 days from now, and hear the words speaker-elect Pelosi. You better take it seriously because the contrast could not be more stark and more clear. Subpoenas and endless investigations, open borders, eliminate ICE, they want to keep Obamacare. How well is that working? They are running on raising your taxes. Or do you prefer the pro-growth the pro-America agenda from President Trump. Today he announced plans for another massive middle-class tax cut aim to cutting another 10 percent from middle-class income earners in America. It's what I've been telling you. President Trump continues to pursue pro- growth policies. He wants the nickel plan 5 percent taken off the top out of every agency to actually make the country better. And we are seeing results. Cutting taxes, eliminating burdens of regulation, re-negotiating trade deals and creating American jobs, it is getting real results. Unemployment now at a 50-year low. Record low unemployment in 14 states. For African-Americans, Hispanic- Americans, for women in the workplace. Manufacturing jobs they said were going away and never coming back. Over 400,000 new jobs there an all-time high. Consumer confidence is now an all-time high. Four million fewer people on food stamps and now working. Four million jobs created. Eight million out of poverty and off of food stamps. Americans now finally are taking notice. Look at this new NBC and Wall Street Journal poll. President trump's approval rating now hitting a new high over the weekend, even surpassing Barack Obama's approval numbers in 2010. But of course, that's not stopping Barack from actually trying to rewrite history and actually take credit for Donald Trump's economic turnaround. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Poverty was falling. And that's what I handed off to the next guy. So, when you hear all of this talk about economic miracles right now remember who started it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Are we better off than we were two years ago? You cast the vote for any Democrats or you stay home that's a half a vote for the Democrat you're casting a vote for the failed policies of Obama on the economy. You're casting a vote for Pelosi, Schumer, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler. Remember, Obama lowest labor participation rate since the '70s. We get 95 million Americans out of the workforce. The worst recovery since the '40s, the lowest home ownership rate in 51 years. Under Obama eight years 13 million more Americans on food stamps, 43 million Americans in poverty, eight million more than when he became history. Stagnant wage growth. The only president in history that never reach 3 percent annual GDP growth in a year. The only one. The only president that accumulated more debt than all 43 presidents before him combined. If you like the booming economy, you like safety and security, you like America leading abroad, you like our Constitution, you like our founding principles, you like due process law and order. The rule of law. Well, the choice is clear tonight for you the American people. Fifteen days from election day. Joining us now author of a new book, "Trump: The Blue-Collar President," Anthony Scaramucci. So, I look in the Hillary Clinton case, so what do I see? A two-tier justice system. One for Hillary, one for the rest of us. I look at the party of no constitutional order in the Kavanaugh hearings. No due process. No presumption of innocence. The party of open borders. Sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. Now eliminating ice. I look at a party that won't even condemn the mob that has their leaders saying confront people in gas stations, create a crowd in gas stations, in department stores, grocery stores confront them. We see the people are listening. Why do they even have a shot in 15 days is the real question? ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI, FORMER WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: It's because of the media probably, Sean. I mean, that could be one of the main reasons. But look at what the president is doing. Even on a night like tonight you get a resounding unbelievably densely populated rally. Every night when the president is out on the campaign, he is like putting them deep into their own zone. I feel like the Democrats when the speaking there are one or two-inch line right are backed up to their goal line. And so, he is terrific at that. And it's way tighter. You know, the best clip that you showed I thought then it was the Bernie Sanders clip where he's pointing out the people (Inaudible) this is way tighter than ever before. And this is the most unusual presidency perhaps ever. Because most people predict that the House and so forth goes to the other side. But the president is demonstrating that he can get the voter turnout even in a midterm election. And so, I think it's going to be close. I mean, you're not going to be surprised. Our friends are not to be surprised. Rush Limbaugh is not going to be surprised if the Democrats don't win or don't get that blue wave. HANNITY: You know, I'm less worried about the Senate. I think -- honestly believe if Rick Scott can win as the Senate candidate in Florida and Ron DeSantis is governor and Marsha Blackburn in Tennessee. You have Martha McSally if she can win Dean Heller in a tight race if he could win, which I think he can, Heidi Heitkamp is toast in North Dakota. Then you've got Jon Tester in the fight of his life. He could lose in Montana. And Joe Donnelly if there wasn't enough libertarian the Republican would be up, you know, nine points now. I hope the people in Indiana reject the libertarian but then Joe Donnelly is toast. SCARAMUCCI: I agree. So, I mean, super-- HANNITY: But the House I'm worried about. SCARAMUCCI: It's super close. But here's the other thing. President Trump with 15 days. That's a lot of time on the clock to get his message out. And so, for me, I'm not counting anything out. You know, look what happened to us during the campaign. Everybody counted us out after the Access Hollywood tape and wham he is the 45th president of the United States. That was only 30 days. HANNITY: Yes. SCARAMUCCI: And so, with 15 days to go, and you know, since like a time -- that's like a mooch to the half, Hannity. You know what I'm saying? HANNITY: A mooch in a half? SCARAMUCCI: Yes. You know like 11 plus-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way, I want to applaud you. You captured something in your book. And we don't have time for it but it's on Amazon.com. bookstores everywhere "Trump: The Blue-Collar President." How he really the people he is helping are the forgotten men and women. And that's the Scaramucci and Hannity. (CROSSTALK) SCARAMUCCI: No question. HANNITY: And this is why. SCARAMUCCI: You know I have clamors (Ph) in my family, out of class coalition people-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I had prison guard mother, I get it. SCARAMUCCI: Yes. I mean, these are people who love the guy. I mean, they are sounding positive. And the media can say whatever they want. The more media nonsense that's thrown at the president, the more dug in people are like the Scaramuccis or the Hannitys. And so, you know, liberals don't want to hear that message. They talk over you when you are trying to explain it to them. That's fine. One of the problems of writing a book like this, if the liberals read it they'll see the president's playbook in there. And so, you know, look for me, I'm a huge supporter. I wanted to explain to people why he won from my vantage point growing up as a blue-collar kid. HANNITY: All right, Anthony, I got to run though. SCARAMUCCI: I appreciate it. HANNITY: Congrats on the book. SCARAMUCCI: Thank you. HANNITY: We are proud of you. You dear friend, it's a great book. I read it cover to cover. I'm honored to put my name on it next to yours. All right. Joining us now Fox news correspondent at large Geraldo Rivera, Fox news national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka. Geraldo, I know you were a great column today at Foxnews.com, I want to tell you something that I don't want to have happen. I don't want a confrontation at our southern border because somebody's going to get hurt or worse at that border if they make it all the way from Mexico and the caravans building. You, you and I have agreed build a wall, it would be good for both sides if it was up now, right now w because that wouldn't be coming. But more importantly, the president already gave the deal you're offering, which is he offered to make the accommodation for DREAMers and Democrats want to use it as a wedge issue. Although now John Podesta's group is saying well, don't talk about immigration. GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT-AT-LARGE: I think that it is impossible to talk about the caravan or illegal aliens or undocumented immigrants with two weeks ago before this white-hot primary or midterm election coming up. It is absolutely impossible to be rational and measured about it in this context, but I have to just say one quick thing. This is not about MS-13. This is not about Middle Easterners. It's not that simple. This is about the wealthiest country on earth-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Geraldo -- RIVERA: -- existing huge-- HANNITY: -- you cannot vouch or Jorge Ramos cannot vouch if you don't know one person in the crowd. I would argue that's not going to be the vast majority, but if there's or five or 10 that-- RIVERA: But that would be easy. It would be -- it would be easy to find MS-13 or the Middle Easterners. The problem is that you have these thousands and thousands of people desperate to improve their lot in life and they're coming to the beacon-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But they've got to do it legally. RIVERA: -- The Great Colossus. What are we going to do about them? Now I mean, we really need to figure out-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We're not going to let them in this way. We have a sovereignty in border issue here. We have laws. RIVERA: What, are you going to shoot them, Sean? What do you going to shoot them? HANNITY: No. I'm not shooting. They need to be stopped in Mexico-- (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: There you go. HANNITY: What are you going to do just let them in and say, come on in, and never vet them, Dr. Gorka. RIVERA: This is what you -- I think that we have to calm down-- (CROSSTALK) SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: This is really been need to Geraldo -- Geraldo-- RIVERA: -- for two weeks. GORKA: I read your piece-- RIVERA: Don't give me that beneath me stuff. Sebastian, talk to me that-- (CROSSTALK) GORKA: Are you going to shoot them? RIVERA: No, don't you insult me beneath me. GORKA: No. Geraldo, Geraldo. I'm an immigrant, OK, so this is important to me as much of it is to you, but to write an article and then to come on Sean's show and say, what are you going to do and shoot them, that's an un- American. We don't say stuff like that because this is not a dictatorship. You cannot make statements vouching for 70,000 people. (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: When you invoke the military what is the military do? GORKA: Sara Carter what they've done for hurricane victims, what they're doing supporting the police whenever there's rioting it's been done for 200 years, Geraldo. Open the history book, OK? RIVERA: It's a stance. GORKA: You cannot vouch for 7,000 people-- (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: It's a stance that every president, Democrat and Republican-- GORKA: Geraldo, Sara Carter has identified MS-13 members. Sara Carter has identified them in the caravan. The president of Guatemala-- (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: Do you think MS-13 needs a caravan arrested-- GORKA: -- just arrested hundreds of ISIS members. Geraldo, the president of Guatemala had a 100 ISIS members- - (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: We need a to measure that includes the regional governments. We need reason, we need patience, we need compassion. GORKA: If they're incapable -- if they're incapable of doing it we're going to put the safety of Americans in the hands of Mexico, Geraldo? No. never. RIVERA: You cut off the aid to Honduras, Sebastian. Cut off the aid to Guatemala you worsen the conditions there that exist right now. You create thousands and thousands of more displaced people. (CROSSTALK) GORKA: Nobody has a right to come to America. Nobody has a right to come to America, Geraldo. Nobody. RIVERA: Nobody has the right to come to America. Nobody. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Geraldo, you cannot let (Inaudible) unverified people in this country rush our borders and do nothing. That is insanity. That is a violation of all rule of law in all American sovereignty. (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: When you-- HANNITY: That would be dangerous. We don't know-- RIVERA: -- compare the rhetoric-- HANNITY: -- everybody in hat crowd you can't vouch for them. RIVERA: When you -- when you compare the-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Ok. I got five seconds, I got to go. RIVERA: -- speeches, Sean, against that group that helpless group-- HANNITY: OK, I got to break. RIVERA: You know, we've got-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You won't believe how one reporter on over basil booze (Ph) O'Rourke. Sean Spicer and Larry Elder, next. HANNITY: All right. We're only 15 days away from the crucial midterm elections. Joining us now for reaction is America first action senior advisor, Sean Spicer, and Salem nationally syndicated radio host, of course, both friends of the program, Larry Elder. You know, Larry, the president said tonight as he has been saying, America first. I don't mind saying I'm a nationalist. The nationalist means you put America first. But, of course, the sick, twisted, ugly destroy Trunk Trump. Trump can do nothing right even if the cured cancer - media - that's called words he's sending out. Not called words he's standing up for Americans. American workers, American taxpayers fighting for better deals for America. That's what that means. LARRY ELDER, SYNDICATED RADIO SHOW HOST: Absolutely. And you are pointing out, Sean, the hypocrisy. I'm in California, the governor of California, Jerry Brown, he was also governor in 1975 when the Republican President Jerry Ford want to relocate 130,000 Vietnamese refugees and send some of them to California. Jerry Brown resisted and said, quote, "We have too many Hispanics, too many people on welfare," end of quote. I don't make that up. That's exactly what he said some 40 years ago and he still the governor right now. I have no idea what happened, the Dalai Lama help you-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They got to help with-- (CROSSTALK) ELDER: The Dalai Lama was talking about the migrants going to Europe. And he said Germany has too many migrants from North Africa, they should go back and Germany should remain Germany. Nobody calls him a racist. Where is Richard Gere when you need him? HANNITY: Listen, look at the years under Obama, Sean, this is -- this what some people want to go back to. And with that said, with the mobs, with, you know, defending a dual justice system with Hillary Clinton and the real Russia collusion, and the way they treated Judge Kavanaugh guilt by accusation. This is a party that seems to have as Larry is pointing out lost any sense of moderation, a party that kicked out for Joe Lieberman, for Joe Lieberman is not radical enough for that. SEAN SPICER, FORMER UNITED STATES WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Right. But remember something about these mobs, Sean. The First Amendment of the United States are among likes to talk about is all Americans, and frankly, all people in the United States the right to peacefully assemble and petition their government. It doesn't talk about getting people's faces threatening them, intimidating them, and that's what not only the left is doing but encouraging, and frankly, most of the media is complicit in this. The idea that it's now OK acceptable, and frankly, encouraged to surround people in places where a business places where they're eating, and frankly their own homes is something that is not what the Constitution was sent to protect. It clearly states that were sent to protect people peacefully assembling. And now the Democrats are encouraging people to kick them, that's according to Eric Holder to get in their faces to surround them as Cory Booker and Maxine Waters have said. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And if they are allowed to get to the border somebody is going to get hurt there. SPICER: I mean, have we lost the idea of what's acceptable. HANNITY: It's very dangerous victim of this by the way was Ted Cruz. All right, Larry Elder, Sean Spicer, thank you. I was in Texas this weekend, I was in Beaumont. I was in Houston with Ted Cruz with my interview coming up next. HANNITY: Over the weekend I was in Beaumont, in Houston, Texas with Senator Cruz. Just take a look. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) SEN. TED CRUZ, (R) TEXAS: God bless Texas! HANNITY: Hey, brother. How are you? CRUZ: Welcome to Texas. HANNITY: Every liberal outside of Texas group is after you. CRUZ: Yes. No, that's exactly right. I mean-- HANNITY: Tens of millions of dollars they are throwing at you. CRUZ: This is the most expensive Senate race in the country. If Democrats nationally could defeat one Republican on the ballot in 2018 it would be me. HANNITY: Yes. CRUZ: And so, they are flooding tens of millions of dollars into the state of Texas. My opponent Beto O'Rourke last quarter raised $38 million. HANNITY: It seems his agenda is the Democratic agenda that they are trying to keep quiet. CRUZ: That's exactly right. In this campaign in many ways Beto is running a campaign very much like Obama did in 2008 where it was all hope and change and the substance they wanted to keep hidden. Because, look, the substance of what he's embracing the people of Texas don't agree with. I mean, he's campaigning on higher taxes, higher regulation, social medicine, socialized medicine, open borders, going after our Second Amendment and putting left-wing radicals on the court. HANNITY: Yes. CRUZ: That's not Texas. Look, we have accomplished an enormous amount in two years, far more than anyone reasonably thought we could. HANNITY: Biggest tax cut in history. CRUZ: And the economic growth. HANNITY: Right. CRUZ: That we're seeing the lowest unemployment in 49 years. The lowest African-American unemployment that's ever been recorded. The lowest Hispanic unemployment ever recorded. The biggest military rebuilt since Ronald Reagan. I mean, the victories we are seeing are incredible. And in this election is about two roads. If we have a good election, I believe we are going to, if we hold he House and grow our majority in the Senate I think we can accomplish even more in the next two years than we did in the last two years. (CROWD CHANTING) HANNITY: We watched you now twice run out of a restaurant. Then you look at the comments Hillary Clinton, we can't be civil, kick them, Eric Holder. CRUZ: Right. HANNITY: Maxine Waters. CRUZ: There is an ugliness. That's really scary and I'm concerned it's going to descend into violence, that the rhetoric they are using is right on the edge of violence and that's the next step. The problem is the left right now, they are so filled with rage that facts don't matter, they just want to burn it all down. And that's not good for our country. HANNITY: Well, senator, it's great to be at your town hall, thank you so much for having us. CRUZ: Sean, thanks for coming. (END VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: All right. Between that, the mob, then of course, you know, a dual justice system, and yes, open borders, sanctuary states, a lot at stake in 15 days. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham, how are you? Load-Date: October 23, 2018 End of Document Republican Voters Outpacing Democrats; No One Has Better Read On Voters Than Trump; Mexican Newspaper Say Migrant Caravan Swells To 14,000; Mobile Mob Highlights Democrats Tone-Deafness; Migrants Know There Is Protection In Numbers; Media Acting As Advocacy Group For Immigrants Rushing Our Borders; Democratic Miscalculations On Migrant Caravan; President Trump Holds Rally In Houston, Texas; Anonymous Accuser Makes Sexual Assault Allegations Against Senator Cory Booker; President Trump Claims Middle Easterners Among Those In Immigrant Caravan Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 22, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7770 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Dave Bossie, Raymond Arroyo, Monica Crowley Guests: Abel Nunez, Art Del Cueto, Craig Shirley, Chris Hahn, Leo Terrell, Jason Owens Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Laura Ingraham, how are you? LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hey, Hannity. Nice job in Texas. You look like you have your boots on when you're down there. HANNITY: I didn't hear you, what did you say? INGRAHAM: Did you have your boots on? HANNITY: Of course I have my Texas boots on. I've got a pair of boots made for me many years ago in Houston that has the American flag and the flag of Texas. By the way, no state income tax. We are dumb. We're paying a fortune. Can we just move Fox to Texas or Florida? Wait a minute, (INAUDIBLE) room floor. Let's wait until after the election. INGRAHAM: That Texas sounds good to me, Hannity. I'm ready if you're ready. HANNITY: I'm in. INGRAHAM: No problem. HANNITY: I want a little baby ranch. I would like a couple of, you know, animals and take care of them. INGRAHAM: Yeah, OK. So you'll be moving into an agrarian lifestyle. I would pay to see that. Give me a break. That was a great show tonight, Hannity. Awesome. HANNITY: Some people would be happy. INGRAHAM: All right. Have a good night. HANNITY: Have a great show. INGRAHAM: All right. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington on a very busy news night. The migrant caravan growing in size by the hour, one Mexican newspaper puts the number at a whopping 14,000 tonight. We're going to get exclusive reaction from the very people who defend our border throughout this hour. Plus, President Trump just wrapped a lively rally, raucous rally, actually, in support of Ted Cruz. We sent our own Raymond Arroyo down to Houston to speak with the attendees, a lot of them lined up outside for hours. You do not want to miss what they say about this traveling band of, well, asylum-seekers. And another story we're following tonight, Senator Cory Booker facing this strange sexual assault allegation, but it comes from an anonymous twitter user who writes this long letter. We examine how believe everyone could seriously backfire on the Democrats. But first, mobile mob highlight Democrats tone deafness as Trump, the closer, electrifies on the stump. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Just as in 2016, there is no politician in America today who has a better read on what the voters want than Donald Trump. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNINDENTIFIED MALE: What does the president understand that other politicians don't? UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: He understands the people. UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are small business owners and I think he gets that. He helps out the small people. UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's doing what he said he was going to do, so that's why Hispanics, we need to support him. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Tonight in Houston at a rally for Ted Cruz, President Trump had a massive crowd. Local reports say that 18,000 packed the venue with thousands more stuck outside. We're not just talking about excited rally attendees. The new data from NBC News out today may provide a strong indication that the Democrats' hope of a blue wave may be receding. Republican voters are outpacing Democrats in early voting in seven key states, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Montana, Tennessee, and Texas. Democrats are leading in that area only in Nevada. And this is one of the presidents polls numbers are. His overall approval rating is as high as it's ever been. Today's MSNBC show should have been renamed in Morning Joe. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: Think about that. Nearly half of the people in this country approve of the job this man is doing, even after Charlottesville, porn stars, his humiliation in Helsinki, bowing to Kim Jong-un, ripping babies from their mothers calling Hispanics breeders, destroying America's most critical alliances, and bankrupting our country, and we could go on. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Lions and tigers and bears, oh my. She ran out of breath there. The facial expressions and the demeanor, well, looks a lot like, I don't know, election night? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNINDENTIFIED MALE: I would submit that the acceptance of a deeply, deeply, deeply dishonest president, the acceptance of that among people is the single most important issue of our day. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Once again from the cushy confines of their Manhattan studios, well, they don't understand the obvious. People across the country vote their pocketbooks and they may just choose results over resistance. Republicans are trouncing Democrats by 15 points in the margin for handling the economy. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: The top issue is the economy, 38 percent of voters say that's their top issue and Republicans in this poll are winning on that issue by the largest margin, I think it's in the history of the NBC-Wall Street Journal poll. But in this NBC-Wall Street Journal poll, Republicans win among those on the question of who's going to bring about change to Washington, which is a very strange dynamic for a midterm election like this. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And as Raymond Arroyo will explain later, the big issue on the voters mind today in Texas was immigration, specifically the so-called caravan. Now here's the Merriam-Webster definition of the word caravan. It's a noun. You could have it as an adjective or doing a noun, a company of travelers on a journey through a desert or hostile region. Also, a train of pack animals. Secondary, a group of vehicles traveling together as in a file. A covered wagon or motor vehicle equipped as traveling living quarters. It doesn't really work, does it, for what we're seeing here. The word caravan colloquially connotes something kind of fun, festive, desirable. Well, yet other descriptions come to mind among Americans and legal immigrants watching this all play out. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNINDENTIFIED MALE: I'm a disabled veteran. I have to live in poverty, and yet these people can come walking across our border and they're welcomed with open arms and they're taken care of and it's just a shame. UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm a legal immigrant and I support our president and I'm against illegal immigration. Liberals, they just want these migrants to come here for votes. UNINDENTIFIED MALE: I'm an African-American conservative. African- American are super against illegal immigrants. These jobs that African- Americans used to do are taken over by illegal immigrants, and we love President Trump. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's a pretty diverse group there. And sometimes the reporters actually let the truth slip out. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNINDENTIFIED MALE: Hundreds of Mexican federal police bearing shields and armor. But just as the migrants approached, the officers pulled back setting up, again, 3 miles down the road and again retreating for the second time. Mexican immigration officials pleading with them to register for asylum, but most kept walking. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Yeah, most walk right by, it's called wanton lawbreaking. True refugees fleeing oppression will encamp wherever they can away from their place of origin, which is dangerous. In other words, well, they'd stay in Mexico. On Friday, Mexico began registering hundreds of migrants, but most just burst past the barricades in flagrant violation of the law. Mexican police were also badly injured. Legitimate seekers of asylum, they must live incredible fear of government repression based on religious, racial or ethnic identity. Home country violence and government corruption, as terrible as they are, and whether it's in Central America or anywhere else, are not sufficient basis for asylum, nor is the desire just to get a better job or live a better life. Less, we, in the United States be willing to welcome in hundreds of millions of people from across the globe, all on the U.S. taxpayer. So who are these migrants? Well, according to a Mexican newspaper, it's 14,000, the number, up from the initial 1600 just last week. They're mostly working age males. A far smaller number of women and children, usually see them out in front. Many have friends and/or family already in the United States, many of those illegal. Of course, they're impoverished with little to no English speaking skills at all. They're from Honduras, Guatemala, and many from Mexico. Others we don't know where they're from and it's undetermined how many have documents at all. How many have health problems or even criminal records. The president today told reporters to do some digging instead of just the glossy, easy sob story reporting. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: You know what you should do? Go into the middle of the caravan, take your cameras and search, OK? Search. No, no, take your john, take your camera, go into the middle and search. You're going to find MS-13. You're going to find Middle Eastern. You're going to find everything. And guess what? We're not allowing them in our country. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, one thing is clear, they know that there is protection in numbers, that if they flood the zone, they'll be able to overwhelm border patrol officials as they did in Guatemala and in Mexico. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNINDENTIFIED MALE: The migrants on the back -- is cheered as she was lowered to the rafts. Yes, we can. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Does that sound familiar? Well, for those, of course, it's because back in 2008, Obama, the candidate, actually stole that slogan from amnesty activists, I think here in the United States. Well, it's no wonder the mobile mob feels emboldened after vowing not to allow them through Mexico. Mexico, its police force is actually now providing an escort to the migrant caravan, if you can believe that. Now, does this sound like or look like something that most Americans think is a good idea? It doesn't matter where people come from, whether they come from Central America, Europe, any part of the world, if they come illegally, guess what? Most Americans think it's not fair and Donald Trump knows this. Now, when he says he wants to stop this mobile mob, a lot of people calling invasive, most Americans see it as not just an economic burden, and it is one, but a flagrant flouting of the rule of law as well. Of course, national security issues, health issues. And like Kavanaugh, it does come down to a basic sense of fairness. Not only would allowing this crush of people into our country be an insult to the millions of Americans who went through the legal process, how is it fair to those Americans who need assistance today and are not getting it? Like the 40,000 homeless veterans on the street on any given night. Trump knows that the answer is the following. America first, and that's the angle. Joining us to discuss is Art Del Cueto, a border patrol agent and president of the border patrol union in Tucson, and Abel Nunez is the executive director of the Central American resource center. Abel, I want to start with you. In a perfect world, what do you think America should do with the 14,000 people? ART DEL CUETO, TUCSON BORDER PATROL UNION PRESIDENT: I'm just fine, Laura. How are you? INGRAHAM: Art, we'll go to Abel first. ABEL NUNEZ, CENTRAL AMERICA RESOURCE CENTER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: Well, I do think that currently we have existing laws that can address the issue at the border. These immigrants right now are in Mexico, they're not at the southern border. And we already have a legal structure that can deal with and vet them and make sure that those that have valid cases can be seen, and those that don't will be returned back. We currently do that. And I think we should allow our system, our rule of law to continue. INGRAHAM: Abel, of course, you know, near and dear to my heart you are because you're from El Salvador where I spent time in my early 20s, and I have a lot of friends there. Your family is originally from there. The problem is we have 700,000 cases pending now. People who've applied for asylum, are supposed to appear before immigration judges. We have 40,000 homeless veterans on our streets right now, every night in the United States. What do you say to the American people out there who've given an enormous amount of money to Central America over the years, welcomed many people legally like yourself into the United States and your family? What do you say to those people who say it's an economic burden for our country? We cannot help the entire world because we have corrupt governments elsewhere. NUNEZ: Well, it's not a serosal gain. I think what we bring to the table and what immigrants have brought to the table to this nation is to make it strong. And I do think that there's a historical context that we need to also remember, that this nation has had a lot to do with the current conditions in those countries of origin. The fact that there corrupt governments in no short measure has been done by this government. They're supporting the current governments of the region. INGRAHAM: I didn't have anything to do with it, neither did President Trump. Neither did the people in public schools today who are dealing with overcrowded classrooms where teachers are trying to deal with kids who speaks -- Northern Virginia, 12, 13, 14, 15 different languages. So, with all due respect to the historical context, we got to deal with today and the limited resources that the United States has. We're going to get to Art Del Cuetu. Art, CNN is calling this -- you know, this is just fearmongering, this is not a problem. You've heard what Abel said. We have the system to process these people. Many of them, he believes, and others, they have legitimate reasons for asylum. How would you respond? DEL CUETO: Laura, first and foremost, thank you for having me on. These individuals are not immigrants. These are people that are invading our country. My family, my ancestors are immigrants. These people are trying to enter the United States by force. You've seen the way, the pictures, you've seen the video. When you're kicking down gates to get into a country, when you're entering illegally, when you're trying to avoid inspection and, also, when you're waving the flag of the country that supposedly has you so oppressed, how was that something that's beneficial for the United States? It isn't. These individuals, I've said it before many times, there is a humongous difference between knocking on my front door and/or kicking my front door and forcing entry into my home. And when you see the amount of individuals that are doing at this time, it's nothing else but an invasion by individuals into our country and it needs to stop, and we need to do the right measures to go out there and stop it. When you're talking about the immigration issues and there's laws, what happens is these individuals will step on U.S. soil, they will check the records, and once we (INAUDIBLE) there's nothing of a bad record within the United States. Keep in mind, we can't check the record in the country that they're coming from. What happens is they're giving an immigration date which they don't plan on showing up to because statistics show that less than 2 percent actually show up to these dates. And then they're free to be within the United States with no checks whatsoever. This is a humongous problem. These are not immigrants entering our country. These are individuals that are invading our country and something needs to be done about it. INGRAHAM: Abel, there're mostly able-bodied men, adult age workingmen in this group. I mean, there are women and children, but the lion's share our adult age men. NUNEZ: Well, we can agree to disagree on that point. I have other information. INGRAHAM: I'm just -- looking at the crowd, I mean, you can eyeball it just as easily as I can eyeball it. And how do you respond to people who would say, look, fight for your country. You're waving the Honduran flag. You saw the flag, they have them on the bridges. They had them when they're walking. Fight for your own country. I mean, you're leaving your country. You're able-bodied man. That's what we did for our country. We founded our republic against all odds, the United States, you know, we came out on top. We cast off oppression in our young republic. Why won't these young able-bodied men, not the women and children, but the able-bodied men do the same? NUNEZ: Well, first, I think we need to also put another thing in context, the number people that are coming historically is at an all-time low at the border. So this is not a new sort of influx that are overwhelming. INGRAHAM: That's not true. NUNEZ: It is. INGRAHAM: We have 38 percent increase of family units crossing the border just this summer. NUNEZ: From that specific region. But overall, all the numbers are down. INGRAHAM: No, from Mexico that numbers -- Central America is emptying out into this country. NUNEZ: Exactly. INGRAHAM: Emptying out. Central America, Guata, Salvador, Honduras are emptying out. And the idea that this is a migration of a signed lease and refugees -- Art you can help me out, is this all at once everybody is oppressed? DEL CUETO: No. INGRAHAM: If one person in the United States who's helping organized this from -- which is a guy who's been arrested within the migrant group, Art? DEL CUETO: Laura, the truth of the matter is that for the month of August and the month of September of this last year, our numbers have risen more than they've risen in the last 8 years, I believe. So, no, the numbers have not been historically low. They're going back up. And a lot of the reasons they're going back up is because catch and release is still going on. INGRAHAM: Now we're back. DEL CUETO: . the cartels know it. It's never stopped. INGRAHAM: We've got to go. But you almost can't blame the people who are doing this. You almost can't blame the people -- except for the ones who are injuring police officers. I blame them a lot. They're smashing them in the face. Guess what? They're violating the immigration laws of Aguada, of New Mexico, they're about to violate our laws and they don't show up at their hearings. But, look, there are a lot of desperate people out there but they're all around the world and there are hundreds and hundreds and millions of them. We don't have the processes to take them all in. But I love having you on. We're going to talk more about this with Craig Shirley because if you haven't noticed, the mainstream media are acting more like a P.R. firm for this caravan more than actual reporters. And it's got me thinking, have we ever seen a moment like this in our country's history where something like this would not just be accepted, but endorsed? Joining us now to react is Craig Shirley, Reagan biographer, presidential historian. Craig, what in the world where our Founding Fathers think of what they're seeing today? Obviously, young republic, different world, different time, but this is wild. CRAIG SHIRLEY, REAGAN BIOGRAPHER: Yeah, but it's a great question, Laura. I'll tell you what, because, you know, when they were crafting the bill of rights and they came up with the first amendment, you know, it's all basically personal rights, right of speech, assembly, worship, things like that, and kind of oddly jammed in there was the right of a free press. But the framers and the founders saw the broadsheets -- and by the way, they hated them at the time. They hated the broadsheets. Jefferson and Franklin and Washington all wrote about how they hated the newspapers of the era, the broadsheets and the pamphleteers. But they saw them as a valuable ally of the people against the government. And it worked for basically 200 years. You know, Lincoln imprisoned newspaper editors who criticized his conduct during the civil war. Roosevelt complained about them. John Kennedy banned the New York Herald Tribune because he didn't like its Republican editorial policy. But they were basically fulfilling their constitutional obligation, which was to be against the government. Now you have a situation where they're align in a far different manner and they're basically arguing against the rule of law and against, you know, for whatever you want to call it, but they're not behaving the way they were constitutionally mandated to do so. INGRAHAM: Well, Craig, they're actually taking up the cause of individuals who just suddenly went from -- they suddenly went from 1600 to 14,000 because, again, everyone was oppressed at the same time. It's just the most ludicrous thing and it's being run out of this group, Pueblo Sin Fronteras and other groups that are encouraging this and are working with other elements in the Honduran government -- Honduran opposition, excuse me. And it's all being stoked for a reason. A part of it politics, and part of it they know they can all overwhelm the system, and Donald Trump can try to do what he can. But I think Abel is right, I mean, these people are going to be coming in saying I have a claim for asylum, then what you do? Real quick, Craig. SHIRLEY: These are basically the Jacobins of the French revolution now in the 21st century version. They're the storm troopers of the deconstructionists who want to tramp over the rule of law. You've got to ask yourself what are they arguing for. Them want freedom? They've already have freedom. Do they want the rule of law? We've already have the rule of law. Do they what justice? We've already have justice. So it's something far deeper and darker that they're pushing for, which is to the destruction of American society and culture and the reordering of it, you know, oligarchy where the elites are on top and the rest are under their control. INGRAHAM: All right. Craig Shirley, thanks so much. And we have the political aspects of this covered, next segment, is this backfiring on the Democrats? Maybe. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNINDENTIFIED MALE: Tell me, what is the top issue for you as you go to the polling places this midterm? UNINDENTIFIED MALE: Border security. Border security. UNINDENTIFIED MALE: Why? UNINDENTIFIED MALE: Because we'll not be a sovereign nation if we can't secure our border, period. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It looks cold in Texas there. When you hear voters like that it makes you wonder are Democrats really miscalculating the public's view of the mobile mob approaching the United States? And it's coming, of course, from Honduras, through Aguada, through Mexico, all the way up to our southern border. To weigh in on that we're joined by Citizens United president, Fox News contributor, Dave Bossie, coauthor of the best seller, let Trump be Trump, along with former aide to Senator Chuck Schumer, Chris Hahn. Chris, let's start with you, what's the incentive for Democrats to, you know, kind of fake these migrant numbers to the public? CHRIS HANN, FORMER AIDE TO SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER: I don't think there's any incentive. I think that this current wave of immigration plays perfectly into the Republicans hands coming at the closing days of the midterms. In fact, it should be taken very seriously and could alter it. I revised my house number down from 45 to 37 in the last two weeks, and part of that is Democrat 37, Democratic pickups, because most of it is because of this. I think it weakens our chance of taking the senate because it mobilizes and energizes the Trump base. This is their number one issue. This couldn't have been scripted better for Republicans as if they planned it or something. This is -- is something the Democrats should be very concerned about. That said, I think that the Democratic base is very motivated to get out and vote in this election. And I think when the Democratic base comes out, Democrats win because they're a bigger base than the Republican base. INGRAHAM: All right. (FOREIGN LANGUANGE) I keep going back to this group, Pueblo Sin Fronteras, he was arrested inside the migrant movable mob, OK? He was arrested because he was central to organizing the previous thing that I'm not calling caravan just so I can stop myself. He was instrumental in organizing those caravans. My question is, how is that -- that guides the guy who, I guess, somehow working for Trump secretly? I mean, none of this makes any sense. I agree, though, and Dave Bossie, with what Chris Hahn said, this is a loser for Democrats. I'm telling you, my radio show has been flooded, African- American callers, Hispanic callers, people in the middle, people who are not that political, they don't like this. DAVE BOSSIE, FOX NEWS CONTRUBUTOR: And that's the key to this. And Chris just, actually, hit it right on the head. It is the middle. It's not the Republican base. It's not the Democrat base. I think both of those are highly energized for this midterm election. It is going to be that soft middle voter who doesn't want chaos, they don't want the mob ruled, and that's what they saw in the streets with the Kavanaugh hearing. (CROSSTALK) BOSSIE: . the exact same mentality that they have. They're repulsed by it. And I believe that Donald Trump talking about common sense issues and common sense solutions really have an edge here. And I do think this is a dogfight for the house right down to the last seat. And I think we pick up several in the senate now, whereas it was going to be one or two pickups, now I think it's three or four net pickups in the senate. INGRAHAM: Yeah. I mean, the president's approval numbers are at their highest. HAHN: And disapproval is at its lowest, 49. INGRAHAM: Chris, and the faces on MSNBC this morning, I was joking that they should rename it in Morning Joe because they looked -- I almost felt sorry for them but then I slapped myself. So I almost felt bad for them, but they looked -- they're prematurely morose about what they're seeing because Trump's numbers are doing well, and the enthusiasm among Republican voters is higher than they would have hoped. It doesn't mean that the Republicans will win the house, but it means the bleeding might be -- might be stanched. HAHN: Well, one of the things I love about this poll is there's only two ways to run, unopposed or scared. And Democrats weren't scared until this week. They're scared now, so they're going to run a lot harder the next 15 days. And 15 days in a political cycle is a lifetime. And we can also point out that Ronald Reagan had a 61 percent approval rating in one of his midterms and lost eight seats in the United States senate. So presidential approval, while it is sometimes important, and I do think it helps Republicans. (CROSSTALK) HAHN: . it helps them in some of these swing senate states. I clearly disagree. I think we're going to have a status quo senate if -- at most the Democrats will lose one seat. And I think the Democrats are going to pick up 35 seats in the house. BOSSIE: Chris, you and I are making a bet. HAHN: You're on. You're on. INGRAHAM: No, no, I'm not going to predict. I have no idea what's going to happen. But I do know this, you can sense -- there's a feel, like I got to feel before the election. (CROSSTALK) BOSSIE: President Trump rallies. What he is doing across this country, in barnstorming across this country, what he's going to be doing for the next two weeks and talking about this great economy, talking about our national security, we're more secure at home and abroad. INGRAHAM: More women working. More women working across the country. BOSSIE: Look, the unemployment numbers are unbelievable down. Our GDP is up. Manufacturing jobs are back. (CROSSTALK) HAHN: David, I'm looking at these swing house seats and I'm seeing nothing but good news for Democrats, and most of them -- I'm also looking at the state of Florida and I'm seeing Andrew Gillum up by 12 points. I don't know how Nelson loses if Gillum wins by 12. (CROSSTALK) BOSSIE: Look, we are -- you are correct, there are a lot of seats that are very interesting. We're trying to figure those out, same as you. But I think that on Election Day we are going to come out of this in good shape. It's going to be five seats one way or the other. HAHN: Nothing I love more than a close, contested election. This is going to be very exciting way to the end. That's what we live for in this business. INGRAHAM: That's what we heard on election night. But we kind of knew it was, by like 11:00. BOSSIE: We will do the wrap up after the election. INGRAHAM: Guys, here's what I will say. I think Bossie touched on it. The people clawing at the Supreme Court doors, my favorite video of all time, you kind of had that sense with the knocking down the barricades in Guatemala and Mexico and pushing past the police, and to heck with you, we are going to go take what we think we deserve and we want, and we are going to take it. I don't think that sits well with people. BOSSIE: The soccer mom. INGRAHAM: We don't want to spend the money on it. People don't want to spend the money on this. HAHN: Laura, you sound like me in 2010 watching the Tea Party. I was completely wrong then, and I think you're wrong now. I think the Democrats are taking House. And we'll even see. I have not written off the Senate, but I think it's pretty -- BOSSIE: It's not even close for the Senate. INGRAHAM: Let me just say, the Tea Party people were out there talking about the marginal interest rates, we were doing the thing with tax rates and Obamacare. These people are like smoking their marijuana. They are like wearing their tie-dye like it's 1968. HAHN: There were some pretty rowdy crowds with the Tea Party. INGRAHAM: Guys, we are out of time. We're going to go to black. Coming up, what do voters think about the mobile mob barreling towards the U.S.? Raymond Arroyo is in Houston at the Trump rally, and he was there interviewing people. He'll join us. Stay there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Our country is being infiltrated, and the security that we're losing, and the lack of protection for our people. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Tonight's rally in Houston, Texas, brought out tens of thousands to see President Trump speak in support of Senator Ted Cruz. With the border crisis intensifying ahead of the midterms, we thought it important to send our own Raymond Arroyo to speak with some of the folks in the crowd tonight. Here's some of what he found. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: What's the most important issue to you as you go to vote? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Probably the border. ARROYO: Why? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because our country is being infiltrated. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Keeping the house on the Senate so he can move ahead with his agenda. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would say the economy. At the end of the day everybody needs a job, and so I think who has the better economic policies in place to help people move on up in the economic ladder. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As an immigrant, I came here, I stood in line, waited for my turn, and finally got here, and that was a privilege. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It makes a mockery out of what my parents had to do in Panama. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My parents and my husband are from Mexico, and when they came over here they did everything legally. We went through all the steps, paid everything we had to pay, and we just don't think it's fair for all these people just to come in and automatically think that they are able to get citizenship or the things that we have -- are supposed to have here as citizens. ARROYO: What you think of this caravan we see? What should the president and the Congress do? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Send the Marines. Send the military to the border to secure our borders. You don't know how many people are good. I'm sure a lot of those people are good people, but we can't risk the bad people coming in with the good. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mexico should have stopped them. They didn't. They should have. They should have stopped them, but they didn't. So now we've got to stop them. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Built the wall, make our country great again. We have to be careful. There are so many people coming in. And I really feel for those families, but they have to come in the right way. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Would you leave your doors unlocked and just let anybody walk into your home? No, I don't think so. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, bestselling author of "The New York Times" "Will Wilder" series, joins us now to tell us what else he discovered. Raymond, there were a lot of people at that rally. Where were some of them from? Were they all Texans? ARROYO: No. Laura, everything is bigger in Texas, including rallies. There were people from New York. I met people from the upper east side of Manhattan, people from Maryland, Florida. They really came from all over the United States. But think of that. To get on a plane, to come in for the day just to hear the president. It tells us something about the excitement out there and the energy. And let me tell you, when the president started talking about these border issues, the chants of "build the wall" went up, and they were deafening. It was amazing to be in that room, I have to tell you. INGRAHAM: Raymond, I noticed that you happen to speak of a lot of Hispanic Americans today, and some from Central America, some from Mexico. What were you most surprised about, about what they said was the most important issue to them? ARROYO: Laura, I was blown away. To a person, they mentioned immigration and the crisis at the border. And most of them had personalized it. You heard some of them at the top in those spots, where they said, wait, I came in legally. I waited. We got sponsors. We had to get people to sponsor us. We needed jobs and a place to live. We went through hearings. We can't just have people crashing the border. For them it's extremely personal, and to hear that this, this sort of breaks against the narrative, totally cuts against the narrative we are hearing in the media that Latinos want open borders or relaxation in those border policies. Quite the opposite I found here. And again, these Latinos were from all over the southwest and the south. They weren't just Texans. But that was the big take away. That and a call for unity, Laura. They want unity. They want the country to come back together. That was fascinating. INGRAHAM: Dan Patrick, lieutenant governor, I know he was recognized tonight, as was pretty much every Republican congressmen and the senators, of course Cruz. ARROYO: And Louie Gohmert. INGRAHAM: And Louie Gohmert, yes. I love that. But Dan Patrick has said consistently that not only is he tough, and Greg Abbott, the governor, on immigration and the border, but they get a disproportionate percentage of Hispanic voters because they are growing the economy, the low taxes in Texas, tough on crime, and he said, Laura, this issue works. We can expand the base of the Republican party. I think Dan Patrick is 100 percent right and Trump has demonstrated that. The question is, Raymond, who is beyond Trump? Who was after Trump? ARROYO: That is the big question. And when you see a turn out like this, in a midterm election, think of this. This isn't a president at the zenith of his powers or a president on the stump just out of the gates. This is the guy people have been looking at and listening to for two years. INGRAHAM: The media have been trashing him. ARROYO: Laura, there were tens of thousands of people outside who couldn't get in. Some of them went home, some of them stood out there and watched on the jumbotrons. And you had almost 20,000 people in the hall. It was quite an event. And the reaction, it was almost like being at the Republican National Convention where we were. It was at that clamorous level, and you heard the president riding the tide of the -- INGRAHAM: Raymond Arroyo, fantastic job for us down in Texas. See you back in Washington. We'll have more on the looming crisis at the border later in the show as the border chief from the Laredo sector in Texas joins us exclusively. But next, Cory Booker said we should believe all victims, whether they are anonymous or identified, during that Kavanaugh fight. But does he really want to live by that standard? The new accusation facing the senator, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CORY BOOKER, (D) NEW JERSEY: She shared a raw and visceral, incredible, a profoundly powerful testimony with this committee and the world, and she was believable. I believe her. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was Cory Booker on the unfounded accusation against Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Our question tonight, does Booker still think everyone should be believed? We asked that tonight because a bombshell allegation from an anonymous Twitter user accused Booker himself of sexual assault. We don't raise this issue because we automatically assume it has credibility, I don't like anonymous allegations. We actually think everyone should wait for the details to come in before we say something like this, right? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CORY BOOKER, (D) NEW JERSEY: Is this the right person to sit on the highest court in the land for a lifetime appointment when their credibility has been challenged, not whether he is innocent or guilty, this is not a trial, but ultimately has enough questions be raised that we should not move on to another candidate? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining us now with reaction, Monica Crowley, a FOX News contributor, and Leo Terrell, a civil rights attorney and radio host. Leo, we don't lend much if any credence to anonymous accusations without any more detail. I think if you're going to make an allegation like this you have got to put your name to it. But can you see the danger of the believe everyone mantra that was created on the left during the Kavanaugh saga, especially as espoused by Booker himself. LEO TERRELL, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: I don't see the similarities between this anonymous person, who I'm willing to go on your program and give this person legal representation if he comes out. I want to take him to the police department so we can give a full confession, and I will represent him. But please Laura, let's not compare this -- he's accusing Cory Booker, but please, let's not compare this person with Professor Ford, who came out, who spoke. Whatever, he's making an accusation. He's accusing. I will give them free representation, because I don't believe it. It's a smear campaign. INGRAHAM: Monica? MONICA CROWLEY, CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR: Well, if this accuser wants to become public, and I believe we should respect an accuser's wishes on this, unlike what the Democrats did to Christine Blasey Ford, but if this accuser chooses to become known and put his name to this allegation, then, Laura, I think there ought to be an FBI investigation. We are talking about a sitting senator who just a couple of weeks ago in the Kavanaugh context talked about how all accusers should be heard and should be believed. In this case it should be relatively easy to investigate, right? The accuser is saying that this alleged incident happened just a couple of years ago, not 40 years ago like with Kavanaugh. And there should be witnesses whether or not they can place the two gentlemen together in the same place. We should either be able to verify this or not pretty easily. But by Cory Booker's own standards, this must be investigated. TERRELL: I just want to make sure, Laura and Monica -- are we equating this anonymous person with Professor Ford who came before the Senate and the FBI, are we making the equivalence? INGRAHAM: Leo, let me just refresh your memory. NBC actually ran with the anonymous accusations. Remember, they said, well, accuser number four and accuser number five. I felt like they were selling knives it got so ridiculous. I will throw in a set of Tupperware. It was the most ridiculous thing. Our point is I don't like it when people do this kind of stuff. I believe it is a smear. If you're going to make an accusation -- this is a, supposedly a man making an accusation that something happened in a bathroom. If you're going to make that kind of accusation you better put your name to it. Our point is a simple one. TERRELL: I agree. INGRAHAM: Our point is a simple one. We have major media outlets during Kavanaugh rolling when this anonymous stuff, and you had people like Cory Booker out there tarring Brett Kavanaugh because of the mountain of evidence which ended up being nothing, and the American people are reacting. I've got to get to Avenatti, though, because this kind of relates somewhat because he was out there during Kavanaugh. Avenatti now has been -- has suffered two embarrassing court losses earlier today. One ordered him to pay $4.85 million to a former lawyer who argued he was underpaid, and then shortly after another judge ruled that his staff and he were to be evicted from their offices for not paying rent for four months. Monica, Avenatti characteristically says it's false and fraudulent, and he doesn't owe anything. CROWLEY: Sure. Laura, it turns out that the guy on who the left has pinned so many of their hopes, turns out he's a world-class grifter and apparently a serial taxi evader because he owes the IRS millions of dollars, and companies he controls, including his law firm, also owes the IRS millions more in unpaid taxes and judgments. INGRAHAM: It's all a Trump set up. Trump set him up. CROWLEY: And now what I find fascinating, Laura, is some on the left now because he blew up the Kavanaugh situation with the unfounded allegations that he was some sort of gang rapist -- INGRAHAM: Leo. Leo. TERRELL: How about this? INGRAHAM: Hold on, Leo, you are not going to endorse Avenatti early, are you, for 2020, he's not your kind of guy? (LAUGHTER) TERRELL: Laura, I'm not endorsing Avenatti, but I'm simply saying give the guy a chance. He has the right to appeal. He can make a settlement. He has a judgment against him, but that doesn't make him a bad person per se. And no, I'm not endorsing him. INGRAHAM: Who hasn't been evicted every now and then? It's just rent. CROWLEY: Or paid millions in back taxes. INGRAHAM: I think I'm going to have to lend him some money if he can't pay for his rent. Maybe he should stop going on all these TV shows and start earning an honest living. I appreciate it, guys. TERRELL: OK, you guys have destroyed him. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: President Trump was mocked for saying we don't know what kind of people at the migrant caravan is comprised of. But is he wrong? The Laredo, Texas, border patrol chief joins us next to tell us who they've scooped up just in the last year. Don't go away. INGRAHAM: President Trump said he was skeptical about who might be joining the caravan that's headed up through Mexico toward the U.S. border. His critics roundly mocked his assertions, but perhaps they missed this. Just last May Laredo secretary of border patrol agents arrested Syrian, Bangladeshi, and Indian nationals. In fact, his sector has apprehended 229 Bangladeshi national since the start of fiscal year 2018. Joining us now to discuss is Chief Jason Owens of Laredo sector border patrol. Chief Owens, does the president have it right about our not knowing what type of folks might be trying to infiltrate a mobile mob like this? I hate calling it a caravan, that's too festive. Mobile mob I prefer. Go ahead, chief. CHIEF JASON OWENS, LAREDO SECTOR BORDER PATROL: The bottom line is, Laura, with anybody coming across the border illegally, until we can actually arrest them and talk to them, we don't know who they are and what their intent is. And it's very accurate in my sector alone, we caught over 650 Bangladeshi nationals last year. In south Texas last year, we caught a number of gang members, convicted criminals, people from all different countries all over the world. INGRAHAM: Doesn't it make sense given what we know about terrorists wanting to exploit our loopholes, if this seems like one big giant loophole, why wouldn't they? They did it on -- the fact that they haven't done it yet and blown up something in our country, OK, but we didn't think much before 9/11 about box cutters on plane, but they did that. OWENS: The fact that there are loopholes in our system that allow people to bypass our laws, and the fact that there is a porous border that they are able to cross simply makes it more feasible or more plausible that they are going to continue to exploit those weaknesses. That's why the men and women that are out there on the border patrol patrolling the border each and every day, putting their life on the line to keep this country and its people safe, need that personnel, technology, and infrastructure. They need the wall, and they need Congress to act to close those loopholes so that we can enforce the laws. INGRAHAM: I know just, chief, to make you smile tonight, because you are very serious, which I love. You're supposed to be. This is what happened today on "The View." I'm sure you missed it, so we are going to play it for you. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is this straight up fearmongering? When did he start putting the Middle Easterners in? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are they walking her? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't know. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He makes of everything. He will tell you Usama bin Laden is marching. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Didn't that guy, James O'Keefe dressed up as Usama bin Laden and actually crossed the border once? Your reaction chief? OWENS: There are a lot of family members and people coming from Central and South America and Mexico that are coming to find a better way of life. There are also folks that have bad intent that are coming across the border that would do this country and its people harm. It's our job to protect this country, and we need those assets, those resources, that personnel to be able to do the job, and we need to be able to enforce the laws. At the end of the day, again, we don't know who's coming across until we can actually arrest them, until we can actually talk to them and find out what their intent is. INGRAHAM: Chief, thanks for the job you and all your men and women of the border patrol are doing. We really appreciate it. And Obama back on the trail today. Well, a surprise whopper from his Nevada appearance, that's tonight's last bite. Stay there. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. Barack Obama back on the campaign trail and speaking out on matters of truth versus fiction. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: I believe in a fact-based reality and fact-based politics. (APPLAUSE) OBAMA: I don't believe in just making stuff up. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, really? I seem to remember -- well, just watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. INGRAHAM: We could be doing that all night. But that's all the time, though, we have for tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team, take it from here on a very busy news night. Shannon? 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We're on the road. We will be in Houston, Texas, Beaumont, Texas, tomorrow. We'll have more on that in a minute. As we speak tonight, a caravan of over 4,000 migrants from Central America, they are fast approaching America's southern border appeared all because the Democratic Party refuses to secure our borders, even after the president offered a great deal of what they wanted, a deal on Dreamers. Now, this is what the Democratic Party wants: open borders, eliminate ICE, and you, the American people, end up paying for the health care cost, educational cost, and criminal justice cost. We already paid billions and billions every single year. Now, just 18 short days, you, we, the people, you will have the power to once again shock the world. And at this hour, Nancy Pelosi, she is measuring the drapes, Chuck Schumer is dreaming of power, and the makeup of Congress, it weighs in the balance, and that includes the president's agenda. And as per usual, Democrats, they are using identity politics to gin up emotions, distract you, the voters, come of the successes in the last two years. So, coming up tonight, we're going to show you all the latest examples of far left's radical incivility, including one prominent Trump hater calling for a military coup. Not making that up. Plus, we have an important update on so many key races across America. So, sit tight, buckle up, it's time for our Friday night, breaking news, midterm edition of our opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. It is time to wake up, America. We start tonight with a crisis at our southern border. Thousands of Central American migrants, as we speak, are marching, straight to our border. Now, tonight, according to reports, the U.S. and Mexico have reached an important agreement to intercept these migrants at Mexico's southern border with Central America. If any migrant evades this process, makes it into the United States, Mexico has allegedly agreed to allow those persons to be returned to Mexico. Now, still tonight, the president has promised to use the military if necessary, and has told Mexico and Central America, and these countries, that they will be a price to pay if the caravan makes its way to our border. And, of course, we are dealing with all of this tonight as a direct result of one thing. The Democratic Party, Democratic politicians, they have all been saying they want sanctuary cities. California, a singular state. They want open borders, politically, they think this benefits them. They have steadfastly refused to fully fund the border wall, and Democratic politicians all across the country defy the will of you, we the people, and they refuse to enforce our laws. This is a big issue as it relates to our midterm elections in just 18 days. Instead, what they have been doing is aiding and abetting criminal illegal immigrants, in some cases, with their sanctuary city policies, and sanctuary city states. And unless the laws are changed, which is Congress' job come on immigration, and we detain people and deport people, entering the country illegally, not respecting our laws or sovereignty, this will be a never ending problem for the country, which by the way, is what the Democrats want. They made political calculations. They think that gets them more voters. And in many ways, we're welcoming people to the country, either illegally, or legally. They don't make any distinction. They refused to even negotiate. The president offered a massive concession on what they say they care about the most, the so-called a Dreamers. But they could seem to care less about illegal immigration cost to every other American, we, the taxpayers, an estimated $134 billion last year in health care, criminal justice, educational system, and other costs. Now, this is just anarchy, lawlessness, sanctuary cities, sanctuary states, eliminate ICE, open borders, and a refusal to even hand over criminal aliens to the federal government as the law requires. So, tonight, 18 days before this important midterm election, now, you might want to ask yourself, which parties immigration policies do you support? Do you support the president's policies, the Republican policies, a big wall to secure our borders, also with a big door, that includes proper vetting of those that would be honored to get into this country? Or do you support the party of no due process, no presumption of innocence, the party of now anarchy, chaos, lawlessness, a party that is aiding and abetting illegal activity? And as we count on the days to November 6th, house races all across the country tonight, nobody can predict with certainty what will happen on Election Day in 18 days. They are very, very tight. In moments, we will preview some of the races that will decide the balance of power in the House of Representatives and the Senate. But let me be very clear, wherever you live, it doesn't matter. If you vote for a Democrat in any House district, you are really voting for Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Jerrold Nadler, and as speaker, she would control the gavel, the agenda. She will determine the fate of the Trump agenda. She will steer the Democrats' secret quest for impeachment of the president, but they're not telling anybody. Nancy Pelosi doesn't seem to care for the forgotten men and women of this country who are far better off two years ago since Donald Trump has been elected. And if you're a victim of her quest for power, so be it. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), MINORITY LEADER: I think we owe the American people to be there for them -- for their financial security, respecting the dignity and words of every person in that country, and if there is some collateral damage, for some others who do not share our view, well, so be it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You vote for a Democrat, you are voting for that. The same woman, remember, dumped Obamacare on us, it got past the bill before you know what is in it, we are all paying more. So, without a doubt, she has a history of being radical and hyper-partisan. And we've got a tape to prove it. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PELOSI: In terms of the bonus that corporate America receives versus the crumbs that they are giving to workers to kind of put the schmooze on is so pathetic. If you breathe air, drink water, eat food, take medicine, or in any way interact with the court, this is a very bad decision. So what? They are going to say, you give them bump stock, it's going to be a slippery slope? I certainly hope so. I say to the candidates, do whatever you have to do, just win, baby. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Since Trump has been elected, we have 4 million new jobs, we have 8 million fewer people on food stamps and in poverty, 400,000 manufacturing jobs, jobs we were told were never coming back. But Nancy Pelosi, Democrats, they don't seem to care about the jobs, the economy, home security, homeland security, securing our borders. They have no plan at the ever mention. Instead, for them, it's about vanquishing their humiliating loss in 2016 and preserving their precious Obamacare. Not working for anybody. Abolishing ICE, open borders, they want the tax cuts back, they want the crumbs. Blocking originalist justices from the Supreme Court, getting rid of Donald Trump anyway they can -- impeach 45, impeach 45. But of course, don't tell the American people, trying to hide what they are seedy, self-serving gender is about. Don't talk about immigration, never. Don't talk about that. But as per usual, Democrats, they're not doing a very good job. Let's take a look -- these moments, well, the truth slips out. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: There is a difference with how our leadership talks about how we should handle all of this. They say, Maxine, please don't say impeachment anymore. And when they say that, I say impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment -- (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: They say no, I say impeachment, impeachment, impeachment. I guess that's the agenda that they are trying to hide it. That's manipulative. That's basically a way of lying to the American people, and it's so obvious. And, by the way, all too predictable, they do this every two years, every four years, they can never win if they told you the truth about where they stand. And, of course, the use of identity politics. You know, every Republican, and conservative, racist, sexist, misogynistic, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, dirty air, water, kill children, kill grandma. I've you've heard me say it so many times, and it is happening before your very eyes. And now, the left is now taking it a step further, a dangerous step further and actually vilifying all political disagreements. And anyone who supports the president, watch out. That includes those so beloved Rosie O'Donnell, going on NBC News last night, calling for a military coup. I guess she is best friends with Alec Baldwin. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROSIE O'DONNELL, ACTRESS & ACTIVIST: We're going to right this ship. We are going to right the ship. There's no way that he is going to prevail because he is evil. He is dark. It's the opposite of what America stands for. When he was elected, what I wrote on Twitter was we should impose martial law until to make sure the restaurants were not involved in the final tallies of the vote. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And Bob Mueller has indicted 13 Russians for election meddling. O'DONNELL: And people like martial law? What is wrong with you, you are a lunatic. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If he wants to send the military to the border. So - - O'DONNELL: I want to send the military to the White House to get him. (LAUGHTER) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Anybody really surprised by all the incivility we've seen in the last number of weeks? This week alone, we reported on two separate instances of violent assault, two Republicans in Minnesota, two Republican candidates being punched, one a woman, another with serious head injuries. Then, Senator Susan Collins, her staff, repeatedly they have been threatened. In one scary situation, a package sent to Susan Collins' house purportedly containing the chemical ricin to reportedly poison her and her family. We are also learning that a Democratic operative arrested in Nevada for battery against the GOP campaign manager named Kristin Davison. Earlier today, she detailed the assault on "Fox & Friends." Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLI) KRISTIN DAVISON, GOP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: He's very aggressive, shoving his phone in our face, faces, yelling, screaming, you know, chased us down the hallway, really bumping into, shoving staffers along the way. We entered a private room, shut the door. This gentleman pushed his way through the door. I got trapped, pinned the door on the wall, and this gentleman, kind of put my arm behind my back, and held onto it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: This is how bad they want power back. And what agenda are they offering the American people? This is all unacceptable behavior. Republicans have been stalked. They have been harassed. They have been run out of restaurants with their spouses and their children, chased down in airports, and much, much more. Senator Ted Cruz has been a frequent subject of his nonstop harassment, including just of this week, again. Remember, he was thrown out of a restaurant with his wife, Heidi. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think putting a sexual assaulter on the court is a good thing for women? SEN. TED CRUZ (R), TEXAS: Thank you, sir. God bless you. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, you believe in men assaulting women? That's what your vote cost today, Senator. CRUZ: I believe in due process spirit UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You believe a due process? A lot of women were up there talking about their experience. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you believe in a man lying about his alcohol in front of the Senate in perjury? You believe in perjury? CRUZ: Thank you for expressing her First Amendment rights. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And in Houston, Texas, where I will be tomorrow, a Ted Cruz supporter was the target of another particularly unhinged altercation. Take a look at this one. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have about a hundred of these, I am about to rip it more up. I will feel better about this. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I guess he is voting for the radical left-wingers so beloved by the media and Democratic elite, Beto. And speaking of which, in 18 days, Texas Voters, they're going to have a clear choice between Senator Cruz, a constitutionalist, a proven conservative, and Beto O'Rourke, what, a longtime left-wing candidate who once actually got a DUI, fled the scene of a car crash, lied about after crashing into another car while being intoxicated and wasted? They are actually in pushing for Trumps impeachment here texas; I hope you're paying very close attention. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You said in July that you would come as a member of the House right now, vote to impeach. Have you changed your mind? REP. BETO O'ROURKE (D-TX), SENATORIAL CANDIDATE: I haven't. To answer your question, I do think there is enough there for impeachment. And if asked, I would vote on it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And don't forget, who is he obliged to listen to? Yes, millions and millions of out-of-state dollars pouring into Texas to help Beto O'Rourke. Texas, do you really want someone with the same exact views as Maxine Waters, impeach 45, leading your state? And meanwhile, a little farther west in Arizona, the race between war hero Martha McSally, was on with us earlier this week, and a bizarre, far left, radical activist named Kyrsten Sinema. Now, this week, we have shown you examples after examples of Sinema's disturbing past. In Arizona, Martha McSally, war hero, well, she is taking on Kyrsten Sinema, a woman with a very bizarre, disturbing past. Back in 2010, Sinema actually called in the state of Arizona. She wants their votes, the meth lab of democracy. She was also caught on tape multiple times calling Arizonans crazy. She wants her vote? Sinema even made fun of her state for being famous, but only enough, Lindsay Lohan kind of way. It gets even worse. In 2003, she suggested it is just fine, it is okay for Americans to go fight for the Taliban. She also promoted events at Arizona State University featuring a far left, radical lawyer who represented the blind sheikh. And, by the way, Sinema also organized an antiwar rally while Martha McSally was fighting for her country, with self-described, she invited witches to the rally. And this week, the RNC used Sinema's own words against her in this brand- new ad. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. KYRSTEN SINEMA (D), ARIZONA: Democrats, greens, independents, anarchists, socialist, communist, whoever wants to come. You are welcome tomorrow. I know that in talking with groups that are coming, I said, think about how the police are going to react to what you wear and what you say. And whatever decision you make is your choice. (END AUDIO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, thankfully, McSally is currently surging in the polls, and for good reason. Meanwhile, in the great state of Tennessee, we have a shocking new poll showing Republican friend of the show, Marsha Blackburn, is actually down one point against Democratic challenger, former governor, Phil Bredesen. But remember, Bredesen was exposed this week as being a two-faced, lying, fraud phony liberal pretending to be a moderate. He was campaigning under the guise that he would support the Kavanaugh nomination, but his staff caught on camera by projectveritas.com, saying the exact opposite, say one thing to get elected, but really represent your special interest friends -- the New York Chuck Schumer way of voting in the Senate. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wasn't really, right? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Vote for Kavanaugh? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think so. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was so confused, because I just can't believe that he would actually vote yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He wouldn't, but he said he would. I don't know if that makes it worse or better. No, it makes it better, but still -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But what's -- like I don't understand what's the game by saying yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Moderate Republicans. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: A vote for Bredesen would be a vote against due process, a vote against truth and honesty, a vote against presumption of innocence. Coming up, we're going to have a preview of three close Senate races with candidates from Michigan, Missouri, and Indiana tonight. And let's not forget about where I am. Now, we are in the state of Florida, two very important races. Governor Rick Scott currently busy here leading recovery efforts in the panhandle after Hurricane Michael. Time and time again, Governor Rick Scott has successfully guided Florida through all of these natural disasters, all while molding his state into one of the most competitive business climates in the country. He is running for Senate against a Chuck Schumer reliable vote by the name of Bill Nelson, who frankly, has been a in Washington wait too long. This is now the 76-year-old's 18th year on Capitol Hill. Time for Florida to send him home. And in the Florida race for governor, the choice is simple, obvious, and clear. You can vote for a Republican, Ron DeSantis, who is going to keep Florida on the cutting edge of innovation and economic success, a former Navy JAG officer and congressmen, or a socialist mayor, who by the way, is under investigation named Andrew Gillum, who wants to raise business taxes by 40 percent. Let me warn Florida, Gillum will be a disaster for the state of Florida. Forty percent, you will not have any business, and businesses will be fleeing Florida. So, let me be clear about your choices as it relates to this election. If you care about due process, if you care about the rule of law, Constitution, if you care about a booming economy, your paycheck, your safety, your security, and securing our borders, you better get your ass to the polls, there's a lot at stake in 18 days. And as Rush Limbaugh told us yesterday right here on this program, this is a fight for the foundations of our country and principles we hold near and dear. There is a lot at stake. Joining us now, Michigan Senate candidate John James, Missouri Senate candidate Josh Hawley, Indiana Senate candidate Mike Braun. Mike, we'll start with you and Indiana. You are facing the added burden of a libertarian that is drawing -- if they draw 2 percent of the vote, it is not against Joe Donnelly, it will be against you. So, I would say to the people of Indiana, any vote for this third party candidate is basically a vote for Donnelly. MIKE BRAUN (R), U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE FOR INDIANA: I think the way that is going to work as we get closer to election time, a lot of people are going to see that vote might not count. And I think it's so clear between me and the Senator Donnelly, he has been in line with Chuck Schumer from day one, he's got a record that is easy to talk about, all the things that you described in other races, hold true here. He takes his marching orders from Chuck, and really when you vote for someone like Donnelly, you are voting for Schumer. And the libertarian vote, I think, shares some of the principles of what we stand for, I think those will come home to roost because they want their vote to count. HANNITY: John James, watching you, the first time I interviewed you, you were way behind. But you have been able to close the race as people get to know you. I don't say this often because when I first interviewed you on my radio show, I even said to you, wow, this is the future of the Republican Party. Your background, your business, a state like Michigan that finally is beginning to see some economic revitalization under the policies of the president. And if you are there, how could you help him? JOHN JAMES (R), U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE FOR MICHIGAN: That's right, we can't let that slip. Not at all, not for a second. When you're w talking about the mob over the past few weeks, the past few years, it is absolutely essential that we wake up and recognize exactly what the Marxist progressives are trying to get us to do. Right now, conservative speech is considered violence. And liberal violence is considered speech. It is an attack on what we hold dear and fundamental. And that message is getting out. Understand that we're not fighting for left or right, we are fighting for red, white, and blue. And taking that message forward is something that is really meaningful here. We just had a rally, we had RSVPs for 6,000 people, 4,000 folks showed up, Donald Trump, Jr., Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, and 4,000 lovers of freedom in the state of Michigan right here who believe in taking our step forward, who believe in taking our nation forward. And I'm excited to bring my combat experience and my business experience to bear on the floor of the U.S. Senate. If you want to learn more, please go to JohnJamesforsenate.com. Debbie Stabenow is well-funded, and we close the polls from double digits to single digits. And just today, we reported that in one poll, we are tied, in another poll that I'm leading. But we need your help and we your support to protect our constitutional republic. HANNITY: Well, we can and think of what we could do to a once great city like Detroit and revitalize it with your background, your expertise and experience. Josh, let me bring you in, in Missouri. Your opponent, Claire McCaskill, she is one of the most reliable Schumer votes in Washington. She is caught on tape, and her staff, admitting they are purposefully lying to the people of Missouri. And now she somehow is mad that she is exposed. Oh, we need a special investigation. No, if you talk on camera, you are caught on camera saying things that directly conflict with what you tell the people in your state, she got exposed. That's her problem. That's not anybody else's problem. JOSH HAWLEY (R), U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE FOR MISSOURI: Yes, if I were here, I'd be concerned about the fact that she is caught saying one thing in public and another thing in private. I mean, she's caught talking about how she wants to take away the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens that we already know. And we just had a debate last night, Sean, she said that she is opposed to the wall, she has voting against border security. She is opposed to pro- Constitution judges, voted against Justice Kavanaugh, and as opposed to middle- class tax cuts. So, there is the choice right there. Somebody who is a party line liberal, or somebody who will vote with Missouri. HANNITY: Yes. Well, these are three important races. That is a very winnable seat. I wish you all the luck, all three of you. HAWLEY: Thank you. JAMES: Thanks. HANNITY: These three states, Michigan, Missouri, Indiana, all winnable. Thank you all for being with us. All right. When we come back, the media continues to normalize and make excuses for the liberal mob we keep showing you every night. Tammy Bruce, Joe Concha, they're next as we continue "Hannity" on the road. (COMMECIAL BREAK) (NEWSBREAK) HANNITY: All right. Instead of calling out the angry left-wing mob that continues to ambush Republican figures in public, well, some members of the left-wing destroyed Trump mainstream media, they continue to make excuses and normalize this behavior. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When he brought the mob word up again, I called them up. And, listen, like I don't want to be the word police, and that was not my intention. But I also believe calling out talking points. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: These are one-off instances, everyone. One-off instances of yelling at the wives or whatnot, those are one-off instances. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: "One-off instances". Instances, plural. Seriously? Now, this is the bizarre behavior they know normalizing and defending. Take a look. (BEGINV VIDEO CLIP) PROTESTERS: We believe survivors! PROTESTERS: We call on you to end family separation. We call on you to end family separation. And abolish ICE! Abolish ICE! (CROSSTALK) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with reaction. He's from "The Hill," Joe Concha, FOX News contributor Tammy Bruce. Tammy, first of all, one-off instances, that would be plural. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, it was. HANNITY: Just to help them out. It's not a one-off instance. What we have had as many riots and a couple of American cities. We have had now two Minnesota Republican politicians punched, one injured severely, the other a woman. We see Pam Bondi, Sarah Sanders, Secretary Nielsen, Ted Cruz and his wife, Mitch McConnell. And Maxine Waters -- create a crowd. They are not wanted, nowhere, no more. And follow them to gas stations, department stores. This is not one-off. That sounds like marching orders, and we are seeing the results of it. BRUCE: Yes, exactly. And this is now their problem. They in one hand want to deny what they created, like saying, don't believe your lying eyes, right? We see what this is. We are past the days of the '70s and '80s where we relying on one network to tell us what's happening. We have other options. We have Fox News, the internet, we have our own neighborhoods. We can see that this is a mob. That word is chosen for a reason. It's not a talking point. It's a fact. And this is what's separating the dynamic here. On one hand, they want to deny it. On the other hand, they want to excuse it and normalize it. You also should note of course the Susan Collins' letter to her home. That was said to be threat, you know, laced with ricin. Her husband noted, Sean that they actually have protests in front of their Bangor Maine home as well. So, this is not normal. There's a lot of young people who think that this is what happens with politics. It is not. This is not normal. It is, I believe, the ultimate meltdown of the left that where they cannot participate at all within a civil society and it is encouraged and endorsed by their very leadership. HANNITY: You know, Joe, first of all, the idea that somebody says one-off instances, then you've got fake news CNN, they're lecturing the media saying don't call it a mob. You can't use the mob word. Well, I'll let people view it themselves. They can decide. We see what's happening. JOE CONCHA, REPORTER, THE HILL: Yes, it's called nat sound up, Sean, or natural sound up. You show pictures like you did in that montage of people being attacked. You mention Ted Cruz or Kirstjen Nielsen in situations where they're in public places. Let people at home decide whether that's a mob or not. You don't start banning words when you start screaming about the First Amendment is being trampled on. And Symone Sanders, you played in there in that particular sound bite at the end. She should know better because we're only now, Sean, remember, 18 months removed from a Bernie Sanders supporter. And this has nothing good with Bernie Sanders, no blame on him whatsoever. But a deranged person who decide to take matters into his own hands and go to a softball field in Virginia and start shooting up Republican lawmakers that nearly got Steve Scalise, number two in Congress, killed. So that rhetoric certainly has consequences. And instead, we see not just Maxine Waters but Cory Booker or Eric Holder saying you have to get in people's faces or kick people. This is the type of rhetoric that if it was the tea party, for instance, or any conservative urging this sort of thing I have a feeling the media reaction would be decidedly different, Sean. BRUCE: Could I add something, Sean, in that. HANNITY: Yes. BRUCE: We spent the Kavanaugh hearing listening to the left say that all women matter and all women should be, you know, safe and we need to protect women. And yet this very tactic of theirs targets women. So, it's the same dynamic, these same people who have lied to the American people, obviously for an extended period of time, but certainly during the Kavanaugh hearings, as they became the mob in the Senate. Their own tactics now are targeting the wives of politicians, the women who support Donald Trump, female supporters of Donald Trump. So, they're turning the wheel. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Hey, Tammy, it's even worse than that. Thank you both. BRUCE: Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: A lot more coming up this busy news-breaking Friday night. Nellie Ohr, a Fusion GPS contractor, wife of demoted DOJ official Bruce Ohr, well, she met with lawmakers behind closed door today. We'll get a report. Congressman Mark Meadows was in that meeting, he joins us next along with John Solomon, Sara Carter. A lot to get to. We're glad you're with us. HANNITY: All right. So earlier today, Congress grilled Nellie Ohr. She is the Fusion GPS contractor who is working on the phony dossier, also married to the twice-demoted DOJ official Bruce Ohr. Remember, Bruce Ohr became the conduit for Christopher Steele. And they wanted to funnel phony information to the special counsel Robert Mueller. And Nelly helped put together the anti-Trump dossier filled with Russian lies, propaganda, misinformation used in the campaign, used to secure FISA warrants. And Fox News has learned that Nellie Ohr, well, took the spousal privilege. House freedom caucus chairman Mark Meadows he was in that meeting. He joins us now, along with Fox News contributors Sara Carter, investigative reporter. Also, investigative reporter from The Hill, John Solomon. Thank you all for being with us. Well, spousal privilege. Well, at least she showed up because Glenn Simpson wouldn't showed up. Rod Rosenstein I hear he is now rescheduled for the 24th. Congressman, tell us what you can tell us as it relates to this. REP. MARK MEADOWS (R), NORTH CAROLINA: Well, obviously the details of that particular interview are not something that we're sharing publicly, but your lead-in is exactly right. We were trying to get to the connection between Fusion GPS and Glenn Simpson, the one who hired Christopher Steele and others to do the dossier. And ultimately the go-between, which was in our opinion at times Nellie Ohr to Bruce Ohr at DOJ and then to the FBI. And so, a lot of the communication, she was actually a cooperative witness, but when it got down to the real details, she either didn't recall or they invoked a privilege that would say that the intimate conversations between a husband and wife could not be divulged and certainly claimed that privilege. So, I don't know that we've learned a whole lot. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: OK, the dossier she worked on that Clinton paid for that was used to, well, propagandize the American people with lies before the election and then used later as a weapon to try to bring the president down. And of course, that was all part of the media leak strategy, the insurance policy to get the special counsel appointed. Sara Carter, let me -- let me go to you. You look at they are being uncooperative, not allowing people like our friend Mark Meadows here to do his job, which is oversight. They keep refusing to turn over documents. They lie in the name of national security and they've been proven to lie. But when you get to the bottom of it all, it really a lot is coming down to Bruce and Nellie Ohr. She creates the dossier. He's spreading the narrative of the dossier. And we even have information proving that Christopher Steele is telling Bruce Ohr to get it to his friends over to the special counsel but none of it is verified. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Absolutely, Sean. I mean, think about this. So, you have Nellie Ohr delivering information to her husband that he is holding onto. He is delivering that information to the FBI, apparently. And he's also being used as a backdoor to deliver information for Christopher Steele to the FBI after the FBI fires and basically dismisses Christopher Steele as a confidential informant when they were gathering information because he was leaking to the media. So how can Congress get to the bottom of any of this if Nellie Ohr is refusing to talk about the conversations she had with her husband. These are not private conversations between a husband and a wife. These are conversations between an employee of Fusion GPS and an official from the Department of Justice. And Congress should continue to demand answers from her just as they did from James Baker. And maybe the person to ask about a lot of these questions is going to be Rod Rosenstein next Wednesday. I mean, he ready has to answer these questions. He gave an interview to the Wall Street Journal but then refused to talk to Congressman Meadows and other lawmakers. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That was amazing. CARTER: Yes. It's incredible. It's like well, I can talk to the media, but I don't want to talk to you. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I'm going to go back to Mark on that. CARTER: Yes. HANNITY: And I'll let you weigh in on this, John Solomon, but also you had a big breaking story yesterday that there's -- you were able to discover all these junkets-- JOHN SOLOMON, VICE PRESIDENT, THE HILL: Yes. HANNITY: -- the DOJ FBI guys were taking from special interests. And it seems one of the biggest beneficiaries, even during his time working for Mueller, if my timeline is correct, would be Robert Mueller's pit bull Andrew Weissmann. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: Of course, he was the guy that overturn nine, zero in the Supreme Court lost tens of thousands of jobs at Enron Accounting, he put four innocent people in jail for a year, overturned by the 5th circuit. Really, he's taken junkets paid for by? SOLOMON: Yes, the ABA and many of these different interests that has cases pending before the Unite States government and the Justice Department. You had FBI agents that are going out to trip on Microsoft and Microsoft is fighting it out in the courts with the Justice Department. It was a pretty stark picture of a Justice Department that seems to be on the take with special interests. And nobody really knew about it. These reports were hidden. And I think it's an important thing. I was thinking as I was listening to Congressman Meadows and Sara talk about what we learned today and yesterday. If the Beatles were around today, I think they would have revamped their song and it would be, "We've got a ticket to hide." Everything the FBI and the DOJ is doing is hiding from the American public the truth of what went on this Russia investigation. And somewhere that buck has to stop, and I think it stops next week with Rod Rosenstein. HANNITY: Well, let me go back to Mark Meadows and Rod Rosenstein. Why aren't you going to be in the room? And is he going to be under oath as per usual standard practice and that will it be recorded as per usual standard practice? MEADOWS: Well, I think that's part-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And why aren't you there? I heard you might not be in the room. MEADOWS: Well, right now the deal that's being negotiated right now would exclude a number of us that have been there. So, here's the problem I have with that. One, that's not what our leadership committed to. Jim Jordan and I that they would do. But the bigger problem is why should Rod Rosenstein get a different standard than everybody else. He wants to go into a classified setting, he wants to go into a secret room so nobody can hear his testimony on a transcribed interview. I think that we need to continue to make sure that he comes. I think we ought to compel him to come. And if he won't come voluntarily, the way that every other witness has, you know, the time for a subpoena is now. CARTER: I couldn't agree more. HANNITY: We need to release the FISA, declassify those, unredacted. The gang of eight information, the 302's. I hope they're coming. The president said they will be. Do we all agree on that? MEADOWS: I agree. SOLOMON: I agree. CARTER: I agree, yes. HANNITY: John, all right. SOLOMON: Yes, I'm here. HANNITY: Thank you all. We're going to be watching that closely next week. All right. When we come back, Democrats continue to refuse to secure the border. We have 4,000 people, a caravan headed to our border. The president is having none of this. Geraldo Rivera, Dan Bongino, they're coming up next, straight head. TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Live from America's news headquarters, I'm Trace Gallagher. Saudi Arabia now admitting that journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey. The kingdom claims he was killed in a fist fight in the consulate and says that 18 suspects were now in custody. This is a major about face for the Saudi kingdom which had previously rejected accusations that the journalist had been killed. President Trump says he finds the Saudi's explanation for Khashoggi's death to be credible and that he'll work with Congress to formulate an official U.S. response to the admission. Meantime, President Trump in Mesa, Arizona this evening. This is a live look. Hosting a make America great again rally at Mesa, Phoenix International Airport. Stay tuned to Fox News for highlights of the rally later tonight. And remember, when news breaks out, we'll break in. I'm Trace Gallagher. Now back to Sean Hannity. HANNITY: So just this morning, Fox News Griff Jenkins he was embedded with border patrol agents and during Fox and Friends he captured dramatic footage of officers catching allege illegal immigrants crossing the Mexican border. Of course, we're watching very closely 4,000 migrants trying to make their way to our southern border. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GRIFF JENKINS, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Since I spoke to you last we've made more arrest. The infiltration across this border continues. We've gone deep into the brush, another group of individuals. Now you're looking at three guys that came deep into this brush that they had located and found these three individuals. One -- they're all in their 20's. One man is from Honduras. Two are from -- I'm sorry, one is from Guatemala, two are from El Salvador, I believe. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Here with reaction author of the bestseller "The Geraldo Show," Fox News correspondent-at- large, Geraldo Rivera, and NRA TV contributor, former Secret Service agent and also a bestseller of himself, selling author himself, Dan Bongino is with us. Geraldo, the president has done everything he can do, I think. And you even agree. He said, we'll give you the DREAMers. Democrats never wanted a deal. We've got a caravan of 4,000 people. Geraldo, we assume Mexico will do their job, but they don't, then the president is going to be forced to put our military on the border. The answer is the wall. You said you would support it. Why won't -- why do the Democrats refuse to negotiate, and why are they hearing from John Podesta in a report, don't talk about immigration, it's a losing issue, so act like it doesn't exist? GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT-AT-LARGE: I think Democrats are in a jam on immigration because Barack Obama's policy wasn't that different from Donald Trump's. Barack Obama was called the deporter- in-chief. He was just as harsh on those who are here without proper documentation as President Trump purportedly is. I think there's several things here, Sean, that have to be pointed out that is good news. And I appreciate Griff Jenkins' reporting from the southern border. But in Mexico's southern border, go 1100 miles to the south, because of Donald Trump's personal negotiations with Pena Nieto, the current president and Obrador, the incoming Mexican president, the Mexican government has now resolved to help us with this problem. They've moved two plane loads of federales to Mexico's southern border with Guatemala and the Mexicans now are stopping that caravan at their southern border. That's what you need. You need creative approaches. And you need the compromise, Sean, that you and I have hammered out. Let's build the wall. Elections have consequences. Donald Trump has been supported by enough of the voters in the states with the Electoral College votes that counts that he deserves to get his wall. On the other hand, for Democratic support, we should cut the DREAMers slack and give them a green card and a path to citizenship. HANNITY: He offered the deal. GRIVERA: Wall plus DREAMers that's a compromise that you and I can live with. HANNITY: All right. When you look at what the Democrats want, though, the Democratic calculation to me, Dan Bongino, is they think this is a generation or generations of votes for them. So, they won't even negotiate anything. Not good for our country, not good for the opioid crisis or human trafficking. But we literally have sanctuary cities, now sanctuary states, and zero cooperation. Why, why are they steadfastly against any protection of our borders? DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: Sean, you will get no compromise from the Democrats who have been entirely unreasonable and ridiculous on immigration for the last 20 years now. But you just summarized nicely the reason why. And I want everybody to hear this and understands this. This is not about compassion, it's not about immigrants, it's not taking care of immigrants for the Democrats. This is about voters and what they believe is demographic destiny. They believe that. I don't believe that. I don't believe Hispanic voters or immigrants vote like robots, like the Democrats want you to believe they do. These are people just like anyone else who vote on issues. To them it's about power and votes. And I can prove it to you, Sean. They have been offered deals in the past which delay paths to citizenship and voting rights and the Democrats don't even want to hear it. They have -- this has nothing to do with compassion. This is all about power to them. HANNITY: Geraldo? RIVERA: In terms of demographic reality, let me just say this. Ronald Reagan said of Latinos, they are Republicans even though they may not know it yet. They're very entrepreneurial. Look where dan Bongino our friend and colleague is in South Florida right now and where you are right now. Look at what the Cuban-Americans have done. Entrepreneurs is creating businesses being Republican in many ways. You can -- George W. Bush, 44 percent of the Hispanic vote. It's bad for us to let the Democrats have their way. Let's reach out. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Lowest unemployment rate ever-- RIVERA: President Trump deserves a second look. And let me just say this. HANNITY: -- in 14 states. African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Asian- Americans. RIVERA: Governor Scott -- to Governor Scott, we give you thanks for your help in Puerto Rico during the hurricane. BONGINO: Sean, we have to treat Hispanic voters and immigrants like people. They don't like chaos. They like security too. The Democrats have grossly misinterpreted their position on this they're going to lose. HANNITY: All right. Thank you both for being with us. All right. When we come back, I am headed to Texas tomorrow. I'll be with Senator Ted Cruz, I'll be interviewing him in part of a town hall. And so, I'll tell you where I will be in the lone star state. Hint. Houston and Beaumont. We'll tell you as we continue. HANNITY: All right. As we wrap things up tonight, tomorrow I will be in Texas to interview Senator Ted Cruz as he campaigns in Houston and Beaumont. I'm going to be in Houston in the morning, Beaumont in the afternoon. These are town halls. I'll be interviewing the senator. It will air Monday night right here on this show. As always, thank you for being with us. We'll be fair and balanced. We are not the destroy-Trump media. And when we get back Monday only 15 days until election day. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Laura Ingraham takes it away from our nation's capital. Have a great weekend. Load-Date: October 20, 2018 End of Document Caravan Of Immigrants Heading To The United States Rush Into Mexico Breaking Down Fences And Forcing Their Way In; Women And Children Used As Shield And Positioned In The Front So Mexican Police Cannot Exact Any Violence Towards Them; President Trump Speaking At A Rally In Mesa, Arizona Near The Border; Demonstrators Protest Henry Kissinger's Visit to NYU; Corey Booker Comments On U.S. And Canada; Mexico Stops Caravan Of Immigrants At Border Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 19, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7969 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Matt Schlapp, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Newt Gingrich, Al Mottur, Corey Lewandowski, Dinesh D'Souza Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Laura Ingraham takes it away from our nation's capital. Have a great weekend. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE live tonight from Washington. President Trump is holding a huge rally at this moment in Mesa, Arizona, which we'll bring you in just moments. Newt Gingrich, Dinesh D'Souza, Matt Schlapp, Raymund Arroyo, Corey Lewandowski will be joining me to comment throughout this hour. And remember, Mesa is just 150 miles from the U.S.-Mexico border, a location where more than 5,000 migrants, of course, have their sights on. And today the Mexican government perhaps fearing retribution from President Trump, tried to block the group from crossing into the Mexico-Guatemala frontier, but as you can see here, the crowd broke down the gates and started streaming in. Police using pepper spray were able to finally stop the rest of the caravan, but not after many got through. Now, THE INGRAHAM ANGLE spoke exclusively tonight with a Mexican official who told us the following -- the migrants are using women and some pregnant and children at the front of this line in an effort to intimidate the Mexican police, so obviously they're not going to us force against women and children. And the same official relayed to us that there are currently 1,000 Mexican federales at its border with Guatemala. Reinforcements are being sent in as we speak. And many the police are telling the source that many of the people inside the caravan grew violent today, injuring 67 Mexican police officers who themselves have no weapons except shields and they do have some batons if things get bad and tear gas. The official closed his conversation with THE INGRAHAM ANGLE saying the following, "We will not allow our country to be literally invaded from the south. It is critical now to take a stand because if this model is the immigration model going forward, you will see a caravan of this size coming every week." So Mexico has its own interest in stopping these caravans from flying through Mexico. And now what you see right here is not from the caravan, but take a look at this video Fox News obtained. This is yesterday morning at 3:30 a.m. in Yuma, Arizona. Now, you can see four different groups of illegals climbing over the border wall, dropping right into the United States. And as President Trump said last night, this could be the election of the caravan. And I wanted to bring in right now former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Newt, thanks for being here tonight, a big night. Let's start with this caravan issue. The president said this, you know, this could be the election of Kavanaugh and the caravan. Kavanaugh, we understand because of fairness and due process and men feel like they're being targeted unfairly. Why is this caravan issue important both to Mexico and of course to the United States? NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER: The caravan brings into vivid attention that the Feinstein Open Borders Bill and Speaker Pelosi's attitude about immigration are such big dangers to the country. The Gallup poll uploaded a survey and in Latin America and the Caribbean, there are 179 million people who would like to come to the U.S. A 179 million -- INGRAHAM: Well, our country is 320 million, right? GINGRICH: That's deal, were half the population And what we have to confront is exactly what that Mexican official said. If we're not prepared to stop this caravan, how big will the next one be? How many will there be? And I think this puts Democrats, frankly, in a very difficult box. They don't like to control the border. They don't like to stop immigration. In fact, Stacy Abrams, the Democratic candidate for governor of Georgia said she regarded the undocumented and the documented as equal so she is basically saying you get here illegally you are part of her majority coalition. San Francisco has passed a rule that allows people here illegally to vote. So the Democrats are now caught in that as people watch this -- INGRAHAM: It was devastating images, Newt. Look at these images. They're devastating. GINGRICH: You talk about mobs versus jobs. You're seeing exactly the kind of mob behavior that the Democrats have led to. INGRAHAM: But two blocks from here, Newt, there is a homeless shelter. Any given night, there are individuals outside waiting to get in. There are not enough beds. They're on the streets. They're destitute. Many of them former military, they're veterans, down on their luck, some with where mental health issues, some not. Some just down on their luck. A lot of, I think Americans and I noticed this on radio today. They give to various organizations, international organizations that help children in need, including in Central America, like food for the poor, all these great organizations. They say, look, we have a lot of problems here. We're compassionate people. We do not want to feel like we're bad people or horrible people because we don't want to say, anyone who wants to come in can come in. But when you see these pictures, this is the proof of what no consequences for crossing into our country illegally will bring. These individuals (inaudible), you can't even blame them. They know if they get a foothold into the United States, Newt, what happens. GINGRICH: No look, they are carrying the Honduras flag. This is an invasion. This is an act of attacking the United States' sovereignty and the fact -- INGRAHAM: Right now, Mexico. And I want to thank the Mexican officials and the Mexican police who are putting their lives on the line and getting a lot of grief from leftist politicians who are happy to give Trump a pain in the, you know what over this issue. GINGRICH: Well, I think actually this is the best Mexico's ever been. INGRAHAM: Ever. GINGRICH: And I credit that to President Trump and Secretary Pompeo. But also I think the Mexican government being -- INGRAHAM: Pena Nieto GINGRICH: -- that this is going to be a crisis. Yu can't have thousands and thousands and thousands of people deciding to break the law and have any expectation and civilization is going to withstand it. INGRAHAM: I want to hear from Mike Pompeo addressing the issue of women and children being used, Newt, as a type of human shield. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKE POMPEO, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: This is a large group of people. They are putting women and children in front of the caravan to use as shields as they make their way through. This is an organized effort to come through and violate the sovereignty of Mexico. And so although we can to support the decisions that Mexico makes about how they're going to address this very serious and important issue to their country. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Newt, I think this is major challenge as you said to the Democrat Party. They have embraced open borders. They have welcomed in low- skilled workers, low-wage workers as have some Republicans. Let's be very clear about this, over the years because it keeps wages down and a lot of businesses are happy with that. They get cheap labor, pay them cash. They don't complain. They live 10 in a house. And it's good for some of these construction work crews in D.C., most of them speaking Spanish, hardworking people. But nevertheless it has hurt American industries from landscaping to roofing to plumbing, the list goes on. I'm telling you, this is a mistake for the Democrats to embrace this. A huge mistake. GINGRICH: I think the whole imagery that you now have these people, I mean first of all, they're political activists. They're not refugees. They are political activist. You raised the question last week, which I keep raising on Twitter. Who's paying for all this? As you mentioned to me just before the show, this has gone from 3,000 to now we think 5,000 people. It takes $7,000 a person. That's a $35 million project (ph). Now, who's paying for it? And by the way, if it's an American group paying somebody to come and break the law, that's called aiding and abetting and that's a crime. INGRAHAM: The Lutheran Church and the Catholic Church does get about $90 million, the Catholic Church, the Lutheran Church -- church not quite so much to resettle migrants in the United States. So a lot of the migrants across the border, we can't keep them, we don't have any housing. Drop the buss deep (ph) as (inaudible) launched (inaudible) did a great report on this yesterday. And then they're transported all across the United States, first in shelters paid for by the Catholic Church, Lutheran Church, other organizations. They do get an enormous amount of money to do this. So there is an interesting like revolving door of cash from the federal government to these NGO's and 501c3's. I want to play a soundbite from tonight the president, Newt, talking about this very issue. Let's watch in Mesa. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Right now, as you know, Mexico is on their southern border, their southern border. And they're fighting -- and they're fighting some bad people in that group. You know, you see the people come up and you listen to the fake news back there and you think they're all -- you think they're all wonderful people, right? No, no. You think -- I'm serious. You think they're all wonderful people. You've got some bad people in those groups. You've got some tough people in those groups. And I'll tell you what, this country doesn't want them. OK? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And I think, again, America is a welcoming country. We love merit-based legal immigration. True refugees, a lot of Christians in the Middle East who have a relly hard time getting here and western Europeans trying to get the visa lottery, which a lot of us want to do away with, but Newt, he's right. America -- they see that this has gotten totally out of control and it's just a question of fairness at this point to the American worker. GINGRICH: No, it's also a question of fairness to people who have obeyed the law. Remember, we accept more legal immigrants -- INGRAHAM: One million a year. GINGRICH: -- than any other country in the world. So those folks have all obeyed the law. They look over here at somebody who's breaking the law and I think there's a lot of resentment of why are these people being able to break the law. INGRAHAM: Newt, this was Jen Psaki, of course, former Obama administration official on CNN talking about job growth, speaking of the midterms, I want to play this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEN PSAKI, FORMER: The job growth has been the case for six years. The job growth was actually better in the last year of the Obama presidency than it was in the first year of the Trump presidency. So he's benefiting from that. The reality is, that a good economy is good for politics for the person in charge. (END VIDEP CLIP) INGRAHAM: It was better under Obama. Was manufacturing job -- GINGRICH: She had a better job under Obama. Let's start with her. I mean, I think she had a better job. INGRAHAM: It's a Friday night here. It's really fun. GINGRICH: No look, I mean, lowest African-American unemployment in history. Lowest Latino unemployment in history. I think we are now the lowest general unemployment since like 1969. It's pretty hard not to believe that President Trump and his policies have made a very positive impact. The only major economy that's growing right now is the United States. None of the others are growing. And I think that we're doing something right. But I also think it comes back to this question, you know, we want to be a country that is welcoming to people who want to become Americans. And we want to become a country that's welcoming to people who want to obey the law and play by the rules. And I think this whole notion of jobs versus mobs is real. And you've seen it here at home with Democratic mobs. You're seeing it now trying tp come up from Guatemala with a mob and this is a very serious question. You've had some very strange comments. The senator from Virginia who said that we ought to be punching and fighting in the streets, the former attorney general said we ought to be kicking Republicans. INGRAHAM: Hillary saying we can't be civil until we win again because they were so civil back then. GINGRICH: So we need to recognize that people need to take a deep breath and ask themselves what kind of America do you want to live in, and do you really want to live in an America where mobs are going to come into your restaurant to drive you out of it. Is that really what you're comfortable with? If you are then you ought to go Democrat. INGRAHAM: I'm begging them to do that to me, Newt. Bring it. That's all I can say. This is President Trump tonight speaking about what America ultimately over time turns into if this continues. Let's watch. (BEGI VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: They will try to plunge our country into a nightmare of gridlock, poverty and chaos. You know that. It's going to be a mess. Democrats want to raise your taxes, impose socialism on our country, turn us into a Venezuela, turn us into another Venezuela. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, Newt, is that just overstatement? GINGRICH: No, I don't think so. I think if you look at (inaudible) for example, the Democrats say they want to have universal healthcare for everybody and in California, Gavin Newsom, the Democratic candidate for governor says, and he would give it away to every illegal immigrant who showed up. Well, if word went out worldwide, get to California and they'll take care of your healthcare, the sheer cost of that would break the American system. And I think we need to understand, these are folks who don't have a clue about the real world. What they're focused on is power. They want power over you and me. They want power to define how we're allowed to behave, you know, nothing about creating jobs and nothing about economic growth. INGRAHAM: Well, the Democrats today are all up in arms because of President Trump's comments last night about Gianforte, well, he's my kind of politician, body slamming the reporter (inaudible) at a time when Khashoggi was murdered at the consulate in Turkey and the president is sending a terrible message about freedom of the press at a time where the press was attacked obviously in this murder. GINGRICH: Yes, and I think that the press will always be highly sensitive. You don't notice when we talk about how dangerous it gets, how often the press are prepared to say there was the Republican whip Steve Scalise who was shot, that it has been Republican recently in Nevada who've been beaten up. That it was a Republican headquarters in New York that Antifa destroyed. You don't see much understanding in the press about the level of oppression from the left. INGRAHAM: Joaquin Castro who is considered one of the shining bright lights from the Democrat Party. He's the congressman from San Antonio. He said this about Jared Kushner. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. JOAQUIN CASTRO (D), TEXAS: Let me get to the point that I think is most disturbing right now. The reporting that Jared Kushner may have with U.S. intelligence delivered a hit list, an enemies list to the crown prince, to MBS in Saudi Arabia, and that the prince then may have acted on that and one of the people that he took action against is Mr. Khashoggi. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So jared Kushner basically ordered a what hit? GINGRICH: That particular comment is insane, literally insane. The fact is Khashoggi is a public figure. Everybody in Saudi Arabia knew who he was. The idea that an American had to call and say, oh, gosh, you may not have noticed this guy. You mean, you really have to wonder sometimes, re these people just living in some fantasy world with no connection with reality. INGRAHAM: We're going to dip into President Trump's rally in Mesa. He's addressing immigration right now. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO) TRUMP: No too good. You know what, the lousy politicians, they have horrible policy. They do one thing well. They stick together. They really do. They stick together better than the Republicans. The one thing they do, and they stick -- they don't want us to have the victory of a wall, even though we've got much more money for our military. Many, many times more. We got money. But they don't want us to have the wall even though they know it's the right thing. They will fight to the death because they don't want us to have the wall, but we started the wall anyway. And we're going to get that done. We're going to get it done. And now it's as a point, when you look, it's really at a point, when you look at what's pouring over in these caravans. When they start saying, we don't want to change those immigration laws that are so bad, catch and release, we don't want to change visa lottery. Think of visa lottery. They pick names out of a hat. Visa lottery. Think about it. Do you think that this country or whichever country it is, are they going to put their finest in there? I don't think so. I don't think so. Chain migration, you come over and then they have -- we had a guy on the westside highway. He goes down the highway. He's going 60, 70 miles an hour. Radical Islam. Terrible. Makes a right turn into a park, kills nine people -- badly injures that nobody ever talks about. People that are running along the beautiful Hudson River because they want to stay in shape, they end up going home six months later with no legs, with no arms because of people like this, sick people. These are sick people. And they has allowed, this guy had 22 people. He brought in his mother, his father, his brother, his sisters, his aunts, his uncles, because of Democrats' policy. That's called chain migration. It's a chain. It sounds so good, like right out of school. Sounds so beautiful, the chain. Everyone comes together. Nope. We're ending it, folks. And the Democrats don't want to do it, but we're ending it, folks. And catch and release, how about that? That's my favorite. Catch. You catch a damn killer. You catch a bad hombre. You catch a bad one. You take the name. And we're supposed to bring them to court, but we have hundreds of thousands of people. And it's all my fault. You know why? Because we, I, you, altogether we've made this country so strong, economically so good, jobs, everything, that everybody wants to come in. So it's my fault. But you know what we're not letting them in. We're only going to let people in based on merit. We need people to come in based on merit. (CHEERS & APPLAUSE) So you have catch and release. They put one foot. They don't need two -- one foot. We have the greatest people, ICE, Border Patrol, law enforcement. (CHEERS & APPLAUSE) And the law doesn't allow us to throw them the hell out. We have to take them, we have to write them up, and then we say, come back in three years for a court case. In the meantime, they're released into our society. And you know what the percentage of people that come back for the case? Three percent. No, you're wrong. He said zero. You were slightly off, three percetn. Three percent show up three years, four years, five years later. It's a disgrace and the Democrats do it. And we don't have enough votes, we don't have enough Republicans to override their (inaudible) because they do stick together. And remember this. They're only sticking together because they want to make sure that I and we don't get what they know our country needs. But I think they may be forced politically to do it because I've got to tell you, anybody that votes for a Democrat now is crazy when you look at what's coming up. It's crazy. Got to be crazy. The Democrats don't care about what their extremist immigration agenda will do to your communities, your hospitals. How about your hospitals are being overrun? Your schools. California, they wants to give you free education, free healthcare, open borders. I mean, we could have 10 million people move to California. This is the craziest thing. So here's what we do. Let's get these people out of there. There's something wrong. They're cuckoo. The Democrats don't care that a flood of illegal immigration is going to totally bankrupt our country because all the Democrats want is power. And don't forget, everybody that comes across the border, for the most part, they're going to vote Democrat. They're not voting Republican. They're going to vote Democrat. So nobody said they are stupid, but it's bad for our country, but they're going to vote Democrat no matter what we do, they will be voting Democrat and they understand that. That's why Democrats support programs like catch and release. That's why Democrats want to give illegal aliens free welfare, free healthcare, and free education, give them a driver's license -- give them a driver's license. Next thing you know, they'll want to buy them a car. Then they'll say the car is not good enough. We want -- how about a Rolls-Royce. We want a Rolls-Royce. Made not in America. So therefore, I hope that's not what we do. That's why Democrats want to give illegal immigrants the right to vote. How about in California, where illegal immigrants took over the town council and now the town council is run by illegal immigrants in the town? I mean, is this even believable? You tell this stuff. It is sick. That's why Democrats want to abolish ICE, the most brave people. These people -- I wouldn't want their job. Nobody up here wants their job. I can tell by looking. They go into the toughest situations. We call them nests. Nests of very bad people. They don't like using guns. They would much rather use knives because it's much painful and slower. These are really bad people. And ICE goes in there and it's like a day at the office. No problem. And they free towns, like in Long Island. They liberate towns. It's like liberation from a war. They liberate towns. And the Democrats think that ICE isn't nice. We have to get rid if ICE. We cherish Ice and we cherish Border Patrol and we cherish our law enforcement. (CHEERS & APPLAUSE) The casualties in the Democrats' open borders crusade are innocent American families and lives. And we have some of these incredible people with us tonight. Democrat immigration policies allow poisonous drugs, vicious gang members and MS-13 killers to pour into our country. And we have done a great job. We have removed thousands of MS-13. Get them the hell out -- thousands -- thousands and thousands. And Democrat sanctuary cities release dangerous predators out of s jail and straight into your community. (END VIDEO INGRAHAM: We're going to get back into the president's rally in moments, but I want to get to something else the president might come on tonight. Long-time aide Philippe Reines telling "Politico" -- of Hillary's aide -- wouldn't rule out Hillary running for president in 2020. In fact, he even brags about how much support Hillary still has. Joining me now is Al who was on Hillary Clinton's campaign finance committee. And back with me is newt Gingrich. Al, I want to start with you. Would Hillary seriously consider another run? She's looking good. I mean, I saw her on various shows. She looks very vigorous, healthy. She seems like she's still in the fight. AL MOTTUR, FORMER FINANCE COMMITTEE, HILLARY CLINTON: I think she's still in the fight, but I don't think she's going to run for presidential again. INGRAHAM: Why is Philippe so insistent that he -- she's still thinking about it? MOTTUR: Philippe is number one on the team of pro-Hillary, but I just think, look, she's done a lot in her career. She's doing a lot now to help Democrats around the country. She's raising money right now prolifically for Democrats under age 35, which is a great thing for our party. But I think it's likely shell stand aside and let others run for it. INGRAHAM: So like the vigorous young Joe Biden? Is that what you're saying? MOTTUR: I don't think it's good for America to go to the past, to be candid. I think we need new leadership in this country. INGRAHAM: Yes. The Trump White House (inaudible) at the prospect of Hillary considering this again because I think they think Russia gave it to Trump the first time. And people just didn't have enough information. So now if Hillary gets a second bite of the apple, she's very smart, she's very seasoned. She knows Trump. She knows how he plays in these debates so, why not? GINGRICH: Well, the thing I'm most struck with in this conversation is President Obama's campaign manager who tweeted the other day, why can't we stay on message? If you have all these Democrats making news that totally distracts from winning the off-year election. So the last thing the average Democrats needs, imagine you're a red-state Democrat in Indiana or in Missouri and now you're going to be asked about Hillary Clinton running again. I mean, it's a nightmare. INGRAHAM: Here's Clinton's favorability. We have the Gallup, the latest on this. In September of 2018, her favorability is at, well, 36 percent -- that high? September 2016 it was 38 percent. So, it's not going exactly in the right direction. But, Al, let's say that the guy who has the number, you know, is the highest in the polls -- Hillary is not in the polls right now (inaudible) that it matters, is Joe Biden. He is about what, 33 percent -- MOTTUR: Absolutely. INGRAHAM: -- of all Democrats. He's out there, he's hitting Trump pretty much every other day and he seems like he's hungry for it. He seems like he's tanned, rested, and ready. MOTTUR: He's definitely all of those things and I think he does want to run for president. I just think it would be a tough race. INGRAHAM: Do you think, Al, that these visions of thousands of people pressed up against the Mexican border on the bridge -- and just so people understand, our sources are telling us that none of the migrants have actually crossed into Mexican territory proper. There's kind of a middle ground area where some have broken into. But Mexico claims that it has not allowed the migrants to make it into Mexico. I just want to make that statement and AP has a different take on this. Do you think those images are good for the Democratic Party? You're seeing it right now -- where the stand up is on the (inaudible) MOTTUR: Yeah, I see the pictures, and I don't. I think we're losing the message battle on this issue. The funny things is Democrats actually are for security and borders and the rule of law. They wouldn't know it if you listen to the president. And we're not good at responding. And we need to do in 2020 and 2018 is respond with more vigor on these things. We're not bad on these issues. We're just not good at arguing about them. INGRAHAM: Elizabeth Warren, Newt, this week, I think took Democrats way off message with a DNA test, you know. I keep thinking of that. Was it (inaudible) Cherokee people? Who was that? I can't remember. But she's desperately trying to prove something, which was obviously a huge mistake. GINGRICH: Look, see, you have to wonder -- my party on occasion has gone through cycles where it was terminally insane. And it took sometimes four, six, eight years to get out of to go back to the 1930s, for example. But this has almost been an imagining. First of all, you can sort of see why she and her clever consultants would have said if you're ever going to run for president, you've got to prove that in fact you have not been lying about whether or not you're Native American, not just Native American, whether or not you're Cherokee. So then she goes off and first of all the timing again is terrible because it exactly fits the wrong thing. Talk about it the week after the election. Then she goes off anyway because (inaudible) and they take the test and the test comes back and basically says that most Americans are at least as much native American as she is and that there is zero possibility that you could prove that she is Cherokee based on that test. And in fact, the indications seem to be that if she has any Native American blood, it's actually Latin American, not North American. And knew things she's kind of smarter then she does this thing and it's just beyond dumb. I mean, she's going to go from Pocahontas -- I have no idea what Trump's new name term is going to be, but I'm confident that he's already working on it. And the Cherokee Nation by the way formally protesting. These are Democrats who have lost the touch they once - - INGRAHAM: I remember and, Newt, I might have been with you. This was some years ago, like 20 years ago maybe, with Cory Booker. When Cory Booker was considered kind of a third way, Al, from kind of Democrat, remember, he was at Newark, He was the mayor. He's cool He was working with the Republicans. What the heck happened to that Cory Booker? I mean, I thought he was pretty interesting. He was more of a Bill Clinton Democrat and then he's different now. MOTTUR: I actually think Senator Booker could unite the party. I do think he's definitely gone to the left to where he was. You're right about. He's got amazing charisma, former division one athlete. Mayor of Newark as you said. I think he's one of our top five or six folks who could run -- INGRAHAM: Newt, can he unite the party? GINGRICH: Who knows? The Cory Booker who showed up as Spartacus (inaudible) at the senate hearing couldn't. I personally think it's going to be Kamala Harris. I'm going to stick with that unless she goes and run. I think an African-American woman, former attorney general, from Californai -- INGRAHAM: Law and order. GINGRICH: -- just has enormous resources and I think she clears the field. INGRAHAM: And the Obama's very close with her. That's the Obama base -- MOTTUR: Bottom line is whoever can win. INGRAHAM: Obamas are the king makers over in this party. GINGRICH: She only nominates whoever is (inaudible) blank space in 2020. MOTTUR: Hey, come on. INGRAHAM: All right, gentlemen, thanks so much. And we're keeping our eyes on the Trump rally from Arizona, and we'll be dipping into it throughout the hour, so stay right with us. Joining me for that Friday Follies segment you've all been waiting for, Raymond Arroyo is here with a college mob and a Halloween billboard that will frighten you. Stay here. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You couldn't fire them. We were stuck. We secured $700 billion, and then next year $716 billion to fully rebuild our great American military. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And our military will very shortly be far stronger, far more powerful, modern, the best in the world. And also, it's job. When it comes to the military, I don't care about the job so much. I want the strong military. But as a secondary benefit, every ounce of it is built in the United States, and we make the best planes and the best ships and the best rockets. INGRAHAM: All right, we're monitoring that Trump rally in Arizona. We'll bring you any news that comes out of it. But it's Friday. That means it's time for, all right, Friday Follies. The tolerant left strikes again. A billboard for the new "Halloween" reboot is hijacked. And an update to a story we brought you earlier in this week, the Kavanaugh witches. For all the details, we're joined by Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series. All right, Raymond, tell me about Henry Kissinger's visit to your alma mater, NYU, earlier this week. He's 95 years old. ARROYO: He went to NYU earlier. Other people have alma maters, the theme songs of the campus. And it's a nice song, a ditty. At NYU the alma mater was angry voices through a bull horn. So when I heard this moment the way Henry Kissinger was welcomed to NYU, it brought back warm memories. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Henry Kissinger, you are a war criminal You committed genocide against the peoples of the world. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Throw him out. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don't belong here! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You deserve to go to jail and then rot in hell! (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: The man is 95-years-old. He's the former secretary of state. But what you see here is even former GOP officials are not immune from this kind of harassment and upset-ment, anger. Why they would allow this -- this was a private event, by the way, invitation only event. They harassed him from 5:30 to 8:00. INGRAHAM: Why weren't these people thrown out? ARROYO: They were. They dragged them out. You could see that on the video a little bit. But this went on and on. He barely got through the evening. But I have to say this, an official that works for the president. The president makes the decision to bomb Cambodia or overthrow a dictator. That's not up to the secretary of state. Why are they yelling at him? Go yell at Nixon's grave over in Whittier. INGRAHAM: Most of these people weren't even alive. ARROYO: Yorba Linda. INGRAHAM: Yes. Most of these people weren't even alive when this was happening. This is reflexive. ARROYO: Believe it or not, Laura, "Halloween," the slasher, is back in theaters. It's the 11th film in the franchise. I know you're getting your tickets now. But over on Pico Boulevard in L.A., the billboard that featured killer Michael Myers is wearing a new mask tonight. The street artist Sabo has replaced Michael Myers' head with Maxine Waters. He's also attached the word Uncivil Democrats to either side of the image. INGRAHAM: We see it now. I see it. There it is. ARROYO: This guy routinely, for a moment when I saw it, Laura, I thought it was Tyler Perry's Boo, a Maxine Halloween. INGRAHAM: How did that stay up, do we know? ARROYO: It's still up. It's still up. INGRAHAM: How did he get up there. ARROYO: He's a former marine. He punks Hollywood. But the power of image, he's using image to drive home the message, and he said he was inspired by Maxine Waters June harassment call to go out and harass people at the supermarket, at the gas station. INGRAHAM: H he's done all sorts of really funny things. All right, and before we go, we have an update on the Brooklyn witches. They've been putting a hex on Brett Kavanaugh, a coven. ARROYO: A whole 60 of them are getting together in Brooklyn at the bookstore to hex Brett Kavanaugh. An exorcist, Father Gary Thomas out in California, read about this. He's going masses for Kavanaugh, has alerted a whole network of exorcists in the United States who are also praying for him. And apparently online people are praying and fasting for Brett Kavanaugh to ward off that hex that you're seeing. INGRAHAM: I fasted for six hours today. I didn't eat until at least 1:00 this afternoon. ARROYO: You didn't do it for Kavanaugh. You just forgot to eat. INGRAHAM: Yes, I just forgot to eat. ARROYO: Well, I hope Brett has the holy water. They're praying for him. INGRAHAM: How many exorcists are there in the United States? ARROYO: More than you'd know. I'm not speaking. I've interviewed a few. INGRAHAM: Is my head going to -- ARROYO: I'm going to move over here. INGRAHAM: I was going to see if I could get one of those Halloween heads to spin, around but Alexis couldn't get it in time. ARROYO: They're training a lot of them in Rome, and there are bigger numbers than you think in dioceses and approved by bishops. So evil is real. ARROYO: All right, Raymond, thank you so much. And we're keeping our eyes on that Trump rally. But next, if Democrats needed help embarrassing themselves, Cory Booker stepped in and lit a match to the haystack. What he said about America coming up next. (APPLAUSE) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: These courageous Arizona patriots did not shed their blood, sweat, and tears, so that we could sit at home while others try to erase their legacy and destroy our proud American heritage. For the sake of our freedom and for the sake of our children, we are going to work, we are going to fight, and we are going to win, win, win. (APPLAUSE) INGRAHAM: New Jersey Senator Cory Booker is on a mission to help the Democratic Party become even more pitiful than it already is. During a speech in South Carolina Thursday he said this about how un-American our country has become. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CORY BOOKER, (D) NEW JERSEY: Canada, I can't stand how they're out- Americaning us in Canada. Trudeau, give me a break. (LAUGHTER) BOOKER: It costs about six to seven percent median income to go to college. What does it cost in America? It's 52 percent median income. And why are other nations out-Americaning us? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Cory, I'm sure they'll take you at any moment, anytime. This is one of the best and brightest among a Democratic 2020 hopeful. Joining me now with reaction, chairman of the American Conservative Union, Matt Schlapp, former Trump campaign manager and author of the upcoming book "Trump's Enemies," Corey Lewandowski, and conservative commentator, filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza. His film "Death of a Nation" comes out on DVD and Blu Ray on October 30th. Matt, I want to start with you. Are these really the type of candidates that are going to move the needle for the Democrats? First of all, you can't use "American" as a verb, but he did. So Canada, universal health care, all the Canadian -- they just legalized marijuana. Speaking of marijuana, there's not going to be any problems that stem from that, of course. MATT SCHLAPP, CONTRIBUTOR, "THE HILL": It actually is ironic because here you have Cory Booker, this progressive voice, right. He's going to run for president, going to lead this charge. He's attacking these elite colleges for costing too much, almost all run by liberals, tons of government pushes the cost of college up, all the research menu, all of the financial aid money. And he's criticizing basically the base of the Democratic Party, all these colleges and universities. So I think he needs to kind of check his own support and what's happened here. I would love the price of college to come down. Every conservative would too. We would like to fire a lot of those professors. INGRAHAM: Get the government out of the business of subsidizing college. Corey, if the president found himself in 2020 up against Cory Booker, what would he think about that match-up? COREY LEWANDOWSKI, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: We call that the dream ticket. We're hoping that it's him and Bloomberg on the ticket against Donald Trump and Mike Pence because that's a 48 or 49 state victory for the Trump/Pence administration. That's a dream match-up. Cory Booker has lost his Spartacus moment because it wasn't a Spartacus moment. He's lost reality of what's really going on. Look, Canada is a place that has an immigration system based on the need of the country, which is exactly what Booker doesn't want. He wants to have open borders. He wants to let everybody who is coming up from Mexico right now into the country so they can become their next voters. He wants more sanctuary cities. He wants to disband ICE. It's everything that the Democratic Party stands for, which is not what the American people stand for. We want him to run in two more years. INGRAHAM: Dinesh, I want to put up a photo, and I don't know if you'll be able to see it where you are. This was given to us tonight by someone on the scene in Mexico. This is the bridge, Point International, where 4,500 migrants are in a standoff against about 1,000 federales, Mexican police. No Mexicans have crossed that bridge yet and gotten into Mexico. A.P. apparently is wrong about that, but it's a precarious situation, 4,500 people spending the night on that bridge, 300 have been processed into Mexico, refugee applications. Dinesh, how does this issue, those images tonight with the violence that has broken out in this crowd as well, how does this play today in the midterm politics? DINESH D'SOUZA, CONSERVATIVE FILMMAKER: I think that the Democrats are headed for a disaster, we can almost call it Kavanaugh proportions. In other words, they have gone from a battle in which a man of impeccable reputation was accused without a single ounce of corroboration, something that helped to unify the Republican Party, fire up the Republican base, make the Democrats look like they believe in guilty until proven innocent. And now they move to this, which is a horde of people moving inexorably to the United States. It's the fundamental job of any government to protect its own citizens. If we think about why, in liberal theory, why do we have a government at all, its primary duty is to protect us from foreign and domestic thugs. And here we have a group of foreign people moving towards our border, who knows how much drugs, who knows what crime, and to cheer this on as if it were some kind of boon to the United States, I don't think it makes any sense. No Democrat would open his home if these kinds of people were waiting outside clamoring to get in. INGRAHAM: Mike Pompeo, Matt Schlapp, the secretary of state, and Mexican officials are saying that at the front of this caravan they're putting pregnant women and children, using them as visual shields, because people see that, the police aren't going to -- what are police going to do? It's obviously an incredibly difficult situation, putting women and children in harm's way, unsanitary and unsafe position tonight. Yet the president is called heartless, callous, coldhearted because we don't open our borders to anyone who says they're an economic migrant. MATT SCHLAPP, CONTRIBUTOR, "THE HILL": Which is crazy, because if you actually look at these kids that they grab, large percentages of them aren't actually those people's kids. The human trafficking that's involved with the kids that are in these caravans is really, really frightening and scary. They dose the young women up with a bunch of birth control because they know the incidents of rape is through the roof. So the humanitarian costs of this spectacle, for those people -- INGRAHAM: Congress has got to act on that because the president cannot do everything. Congress has got to act and stop this madness. This has to stop. SCHLAPP: It has to stop. A border has to mean something. It means you cannot come unless you're coming legally. And this is all a stunt. And it's paid for by somebody. And I think we're all getting sick and tired of it. INGRAHAM: Big money. Big money. And we understand that, Corey Lewandowski, Honduran leftist opposition politicians, at least one of them was pulled out of the migrant caravan, and he was embedded in with a few others. They were arrested, taken out, concerned that Venezuela and other leftist politicians in Honduras could be helping this caravan because they want to try to embarrass President Trump. But, Corey, the president won on the issue of immigration. That was, I think, above all else, that was the issue that he won on. I want to put up a graphic for you. This is effect on communities of immigration in the United States. And it's going to surprise a lot of people. Immigration change made by community, made it worse, white voters says immigration has made it worse, 58 percent, black voters 45 percent said that immigration change has made their community worse, Hispanic voters, 44 percent of them, say it has made their community worse, other 51 percent. These are the numbers the other networks will not bring the people. We bring them to them regularly. Corey Lewandowski, this is a winner for Republicans. LEWANDOWSKI: Of course it's a winner. And this was a quintessential campaign issue that the president pledged to fix. He pledged to build the wall on the southern border. And the reason the numbers are so staggering, whether you're in the African-American community, the Hispanic community, or any other community is when you have people pouring across the border and taking jobs away from people here illegally, it has an economic impact on those people who are here legally, who are American citizens, who want to go to work. And what we've seen from this president is the lowest unemployment rate for African-Americans and Hispanics and women in record number of years, in literally most people's lifetimes. And so the influx of illegal immigration into our country is not going to help us. It's not going to solve a problem. This is something that we need to control. And it goes back to what Ronald Reagan said some 30 years ago. A country that doesn't control or can't control its borders isn't a country at all. This president has stood by this, has been a hallmark. And now we have to get Congress to act to give him the money to finish the wall on the southern border. INGRAHAM: We've got to close those loopholes for asylum, et cetera. Panel, stay right there. I'm going to reveal the winners and losers of the week. That's next. INGRAHAM: For a wrap on the Trump rally and our winners and losers of the week, Matt Schlapp, Corey Lewandowski, Dinesh D'Souza, and Raymond Arroyo are back with us. Gentlemen, thanks for sticking around. I want to begin with a no-good week for two rock stars of the Democratic Party. OK, Matt, losers, two rock stars of the Democratic Party. SCHLAPP: I'm going to pick one. Beto O'Rourke. He ain't going to be a senator, for sure. INGRAHAM: OK. So he was a pretty boy that didn't make the cut. Raymond? ARROYO: My pick is Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren's DNA test was a flop. No one believes she's a Cherokee, even the Cherokee nation. She clearly is the loser of the week. INGRAHAM: And she doesn't look good in feathers. No Elizabeth Warren jokes. I saw those emails today. I completely find them offensive, completely offensive. Dinesh D'Souza, Dinesh, winners of the week, who are they? D'SOUZA: I think it's got to be Trump. He's on a roll and he continues to be able to ridicule his opponents with such effectiveness. They have tried desperately to get back at him but with absolutely no successful result. INGRAHAM: Corey Lewandowski, winner of the week? LEWANDOWSKI: Josh Hawley in Missouri, the U.S. Senate candidate in Missouri. He is winning that campaign. Claire McCaskill's campaign is imploding from the hidden camera stuff that our friends are doing, and Josh Hawley is going to be the next U.S. senator from Missouri. INGRAHAM: What happens to this caravan? Matt? SCHLAPP: I like the people who are on the case. I like Pompeo and Bolton working with DHS, and I think it's going to get stopped. INGRAHAM: Raymond? ARROYO: Well, the Mexican government clearly is holding back this caravan. We'll see how long that lasts, but don't underestimate the president's influence here. He pressured them, and it's working. INGRAHAM: Dinesh, is Mexico going to hold the line? D'SOUZA: I hope so. I think it would be a breakthrough. Think of it, if the Mexicans are the ones who draw the line and say, listen, just as we don't let foreigners into our country without going through a process, we're going to block these guys, that's going to be a huge embarrassment for the Democratic Party and this country. INGRAHAM: Corey, Mexico hold it? LEWANDOWSKI: If they don't hold it, I promise you we will. They will not be in our country illegally, that I can assure you. INGRAHAM: All right, everybody, fantastic. I predict Mexico and the United States are going to have a better working relationship on a multitude of issues because of this president's leadership. Pena Nieto and AMLO, Orbrador, is actually going to work really well with this administration. That's my prediction. All right, we're going to be back in just a moment. A special announcement about Monday's show. Don't move away from here. INGRAHAM: All right, tomorrow night Trump is going to be in Nevada, another rally in the afternoon. So you're going to want to check out that. And Monday we have a special announcement. Raymond Arroyo will be in Texas with the president. Outside, he's going to be interviewing the people. We're almost out of time, but Raymond? ARROYO: I'll send you some sound. We'll see what's on people's minds as they move towards the midterms. INGRAHAM: All right, fantastic. Make sure to pick up my new book, paperback, out just last week. See you Monday. Load-Date: October 20, 2018 End of Document One-On-One With Rush Limbaugh; Rush Limbaugh Gave His Views On The Coming Midterm Elections And Why He Believes Republicans Will Still Win The House; Rush Also Weighed In On The Disappearance Of Jamal Khashoggi, Saying That President Trump And His Team Must Do The Right Thing On This Controversy Because It Is Very Sensitive Issue And The Relationship With The Saudis And Other Countries Is At Stake Here Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 18, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7257 words Byline: Sean Hannity Guests: Rush Limbaugh Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Welcome to HANNITY. And we are coming to you from South Florida, at the EIB southern command headquarters where for the full hour tonight, I'll sit down with radio legend, Rush Limbaugh, for wide-ranging interview on everything that is at stake in November. With just 19 days until the single most important midterm elections in our lifetime, the fate of the Senate, the House, all hangs in the balance. So, it is up to you to send a message to the Democratic Party that mob rule is not acceptable in the U.S. And tonight, we'll set the stage. We'll break down multiple key races, preview what will happen. God forbid, if Pelosi's speaker, Schumer is the Senate majority leader, and they take the reins of government. Now, my interview with Rush is coming up. You're not gong to want to miss a second. First, it's time for a special Florida edition of our opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: Less than three weeks until the single most important midterm elections in our lifetime. Democrats, the destroy Trump media, continue their all-out smear campaign against the president and his supporters, and clearly, they're not backing down. Instead of calling for civility, civil discourse, Democratic leaders continue cheerleading for this dangerous mob- like behavior. When two people in Minnesota punched and attacked, we had representatives, Republicans, hit, over all of this. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get up and you create a crowd, and you pushback on them, and you tell them they are not welcome anymore, anywhere. SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: Please, don't just come here today and then go home, go to the Hill today. Get up and please get up in the face of some Congress people. ERIC HOLDER, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL: Michelle always says that, you know, when they go low, we go high. No, no. When they go low, we kick them. ELLEN DEGENERES, TV HOST: If you had to be stuck in an elevator with either President Trump, Mike Pence, or Jeff Sessions, who would it be? SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: Does one of us have to come out alive? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I've been very clear on this program, if this type of rhetoric continues, it is not going to end well. So, tonight, the political climate is at a fever pitch. We've seen violent protests in major cities all across the country, Portland, New York. We have seen women, violent assaults against them. Two local Republican candidates in Minnesota, a Democratic operative arrested in Nevada, for battery against a GOP campaign manager, that operative has now been fired. Senator Susan Collins and her staff repeatedly have been threatened, and a package was sent to Susan Collins' house, well, purportedly containing the chemical ricin. Other Republicans have been stalked, harassed, all over the country, run out of restaurants, chased down in airports, and much more. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PROTESTERS: We believe survivors! We believe survivors! We believe survivors! PROTESTERS: We call on you to end family separation! Abolish ICE! Abolish ICE! (CROSSTALK) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: This kind of a mob-like behavior has got to stop before somebody gets hurt, as Rand Paul has said, or worse. Violence, intimidation, unacceptable in this country. Our problems -- well, you have a chance to solve the problems at the ballot box in 19 days. That's why I'm down here in Florida, because Rush and I both believe we're in a political climate, unlike any other time in recent history, and guess what? There has never been a greater urgency to speak out collectively, to continue the agenda that has been working for two years, or reverse course. Fundamental principles we believe in, due process, presumption of innocence, that's at play. The economy is in play. Peace and prosperity, national security is in play. The country is at a tipping point in more ways than we can even begin. So, without further ado, we are in the studio of Rush Limbaugh. First, I want to congratulate you. Thirty years, talk radio, the king of talk radio, and going stronger than ever. RUSH LIMBAUGH, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: It's amazing, it really is. You know, I'm enjoying it as much as I ever have, if not more so. I get more thrills from it. I get more satisfaction from it, than I've ever had. If you would've told me 30 years ago, or even 40, when I was dreaming of all this, that by the time I reached 65, that it would be more competitive than ever, that I would be more involved -- I thought 65, well, you got nothing left to prove. You phone it in, you take it easy, go to the beach, do a couple hours a week, and that's it, like Johnny Carson did. I can't imagine not doing this. And I think largely because of -- as you just laid out, we are seriously at a tipping point. I don't know -- I worry -- I don't know how many people actually are aware of how close we are to losing our country as founded. There's always going to be in America but what is it going to be? And it really is at stake. I've been trying in I don't how many ways to explain to my audience why it is different now than it was 15 years ago, or 20. And I do it by trying to analyze who the left is. What they have become. I am naive in many ways. HANNITY: I might take a little objection to Rush being naive. You -- LIMBAUGH: Well, you tell me if this is naive. HANNITY: Yes. LIMBAUGH: I look at what happened during the Kavanaugh hearing. You just described ricin and the stuff to Susan Collins. We looked at the literal mob behavior that was inspired, bought and paid for, by the Democrat Party. The media encourages it. In my naive world, that behavior would secure the biggest landslide defeat a political party has ever had. In a sane world, where decent people are the majority, that would be rejected out of hand. It wouldn't even be considered relevant. And the people of this country would want to get rid of that as quickly as they could. But yet, it may be close to 50 percent of the country. I don't think it is, and I hope not. But the fact that it continues to survive, I have evolved a bunch of theories to explain it. And I really think -- by the way, interrupt any time with questions. HANNITY: No, you are doing great. LIMBAUGH: I really think that all of this -- the vast majority of it, still, Sean, revolves around one of the age-old arguments that left versus right has had, that is role of government in our lives. Now, the people on the left, I read some of what Jim Garrity at "National Review," about a month ago now, and it just struck me, because I think it is dead on. I'm going to paraphrase what he said. He said, what has happened, in his view -- I endorse this even more than he does. I think it is a bigger point than he made it. These people on the left that you've described, the mob behavior, is really a series of psychological disorders that have taken over politics. We have politicized psychological disorders to the pointing out that they have become the objective of the Democrat Party. Solving all of these disparate, separate psychological disorders, having the government do it, basically determine outcomes. And get even with oppressors, the founding majority of the country. That's what we are dealing with. If we don't define this properly, we are never going to be able to oppose it. If we consider the stuff legit, which it isn't, that kind of behavior is not legitimate. We do not want a country based on that kind -- we don't want people winning elections based on mobs and violence. Think if that happens. If they win the election based on this kind of behavior -- HANNITY: We'll get more of it. LIMBAUGH: Exactly right. HANNITY: But here's -- LIMBAUGH: What do decent people do? Decent people do not spend all day trying to figure out how to battle this. Decent people are living their lives. We've got perversion, indecency, corruption, up against what used to be called normalcy. HANNITY: You've got -- Hillary Clinton -- we can't be civil unless you give us power back. Eric Holder, well, they go low, we kick them. LIMBAUGH: Right. HANNITY: Maxine waters, if you see them, create a crowd. You know, go tell them, follow them into department stores and grocery stores and gas stations. You are not wanted anywhere anymore. And we saw Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen, and we saw Sarah Sanders, Ted Cruz and his wife, Heidi, Mitch McConnell, I think Rand is right. Somebody is going to get hurt here, in the end, because -- look, I blame the people for their actions, but there is certainly marching orders here. Confront, attack, get in their faces -- LIMBAUGH: All of it is marching orders. HANNITY: Yes. LIMBAUGH: All of it is bought and paid for. Look at this caravan. Supposed -- where is it? Honduras, Guatemala, doesn't matter. Somebody is paying for this. Where are these people going to the bathroom? Who is feeding them? I mean, 2,000, 4,000 people, kids, and that's the magic. And they put the children in there. We must accept them. We can't send them away, it's so horrible. Trump is separating -- it is all designed and it's all designed to flood the zone during the election. We've got this, we've got worried about the Fed raising interest rates to try to jam down the economy, way over there, guess what just happened? Robert Mueller is about ready to submit his report. Well, Justice Department rules and guidelines say they should not do it to impact the results of an election. But that didn't -- Comey did, didn't he? He was doing everything he could to help Hillary, people don't understand this, but that's what he'd been doing. So, these things are all planned and they're all getting focused leading up to the election. People ask me, what can I do? I want to do more than vote. Right now, that is the answer. HANNITY: Vote. LIMBAUGH: I mean, people -- I know people think their vote is not enough, but it is. Turnout is everything. And the left -- this is almost an identical scenario to 2016. They think, Sean, they really do -- and some of this is hope, but they think a lot of Americans that voted for Trump regret it. A lot of people can't out to show and apologize for their mistake of voting for Trump. They can't wait to go out there and apologize to the Democrat Party. The fact of the matter is, since Barack Obama, the Democrat Party has been losing elections. Starting in 2010, midterm, state party, all the way up to 2016, the Democrat Party has lost 1,200 seats, national, state, local. You have to count all the way down to the dog catcher, they have lost. They have the least amount of electoral political power in Washington since the '20s. Where is this blue wave? Where's the evidence that people can't wait to vote Democrat? The evidence is they are doing the exact opposite. Trump is out there continuing to do the things he did that won him the election in 2016, all of these rallies. They have been unable to get rid of him. They have thrown everything at Trump that usually gets rid t of Republican opponents, and nothing has worked. And they're just frustrated as they can be, and I think they are so overplaying this, and they are going way beyond the bounds of anywhere near propriety. But they think most Americans want to be encouraged to do mob- like behavior, getting people's faces. I don't think we have lost the country to that extent that that wins elections. HANNITY: How big an impact -- Kavanaugh, to me, was a tipping point, because they were exposed. I think most people fundamentally believe in the rule of law, the Constitution, due process, presumption of innocence. There was none of that. It was accusation, I believe it. LIMBAUGH: Look how close they were to getting away with that, though. HANNITY: Yes. LIMBAUGH: You and I watched this from a different perspective than I think a lot of people. Sadly, there are still a lot of people that only get their news from what we call the mainstream media. If Donald Trump -- President Trump had not, at that rally, exposed Christine -- HANNITY: No corroboration. LIMBAUGH: None! The four people she says where there, no, we weren't. She didn't know what, where, when, why. So, Trump tells people this, and they get mad at Trump for mocking her. Trump didn't mock her. To mock her, he would have to impersonate her. Which I can do, but I will not. HANNITY: You are showing great restraint. LIMBAUGH: Great restraint. He didn't mock her, he exposed her to a bunch of Americans who didn't know, because the mainstream media had not reported all of the holes in her story. So, Trump does, and in getting Trump, they end up reporting what Trump said. That was the tipping point, plus what Kavanaugh did to save himself. But you're right, presumption of innocence gone. They were close to killing that by intimidating Republican on that committee. But it didn't work again because I believe the president came in and saved the day. HANNITY: Look, I don't have a crystal ball. I always thought and believed in my heart the media is wrong, Trump can win. You can see it, you can feel it. I don't know who is going to run against Obama in '08. You saw the crowds, you saw the enthusiasm, in that case, I think it was a lot of hype and no change, typical left-wing policies. You predicted to me that it would fail, and it did fail. But something is different. President Trump -- you could see building momentum. And now, we got these midterms. I'm looking at let's -- Florida, they could pick up a Senate seat. I think you could pick one up in Missouri. I think you will hold Nevada. I think you will win in Arizona, North Dakota, Indiana, all potential pickups. Where I would worry about more is the House, I don't have a feel. LIMBAUGH: It is hard, so many seats there. So many variables, and vagaries when you get to it. But let's look at this in the macro way. Let's compare this -- you want to go to 2008 -- let's go back to 2016. I know you were, early on, very confident that Trump was going to win. I thought -- my staff here will tell me that two days -- when I first saw the first polling after Trump and Melania went down the escalator, I said, he is the nominee. It is going to happen, I felt it. You know why? Because I know the bond, I saw those rallies. I saw the bond that Trump had with his voters. The media didn't create that. He did. I did versions of that when my show started traveling around, 48 weekends a year for the first two years, trying to get my radio show established. And I saw similar a success track. And nobody can blow up that bond that Trump voters have, but Washington establishment, to this day, does not understand Donald Trump. They don't understand his voters, and they are not curious to find out why. They just resent it. And they are still operating under the same rules they operated under in 2016, and the parallels are identical here. They think in 2016, Hillary is going to win. Massive landslide, measuring the curtains, Hillary's planning all of these things. The deep state guys back then are confident nobody is going to ever know what they did, their jobs and careers will be safe. Strzok and all of these clowns, McCabe, safe. Then, Trump comes along and wins. They are shocked, they are stunned, they couldn't believe it. Same thing now, they think they have won the House a month ago. It's in the can. They are just waiting for the calendar and the days to go by, when all of their own point data shows the so-called generic ballot blue wave shrinking and shrinking. HANNITY: Dramatically. LIMBAUGH: Now you find less confidence in all of the reporting about the blue wave, so now we have the caravan, they tried Kavanaugh. Look at all of the October surprises. Feinstein tried one. Pocahontas ,Elizabeth Warren, how about this, folks. We used to be judged by the content of our character. Now it is the content of our DNA. Is that what the Democrat Party -- talk about bastardizing Martin Luther King. She bombs out. Feinstein bombs out. HANNITY: Right. LIMBAUGH: And so, all of these -- all four were attempted, were purposed, to blow Trump up, and he just keeps beating them back. And they don't know how to deal with it. They get more and more frustrated, more and more angry. That's what we're seeing. HANNITY: Some nights at the end of the show, we'll take a clip from, your Dittocam, and run it. Kind of the kicker to the show. My audience loves to see you, thanks for doing the show. They love having you, as do I. What if they win? What if the Democrats win? You love that question. LIMBAUGH: Well, the problem here is, I am on television, and I'm really trying to be persuasive, I don't want to dramatize it. I do not want to lie to people and I don't want to fill people with phony, manipulative, emotional things. But it might serve to answer that question to go back -- what if Hillary had won in 2016? Stop and think of that. There wouldn't be a roaring economy. There wouldn't have been any tax cuts, there would not have been rollback on regulations, no squaring of the deal with NATO. There wouldn't have been any read on trade deals. The Obama administration told the American people, get used to it, there is a new American economy, and it is flat line or in decline. America's past, we didn't really deserve that. America was founded by a white patriarchy set itself up for itself, people discriminated against, but those days are over. So, now, the days behind us, we didn't deserve those anyway. We don't deserve to be a superpower. We have a flat line economy. We were told -- Obama is out there in Indiana telling these people their jobs are never coming back. And some in the audience, "Mr. Trump says" and Obama says, what is he going to do, wave a magic wand? Look what happened, we got the jobs back. It can be done. They don't even want to make America great. They resent the whole idea of America becoming great. They resent the idea of America as a superpower, running the world for good. We're the good guys. They don't think so. (CROSSTAK) HANNITY: If -- and the investigation -- LIMBAUGH: If he hadn't won, Sean, I shudder to think, with Hillary Clinton in the White House and all of her cronies in all the cabinet positions, and the validation of all of these odd ball, weird, perverted, left-wing behaviors becoming more and more normalized, and politics and government role being to address their grievances -- we have become a country of nothing but a bunch of victims constantly angry, demanding that somebody do something about it, instead of all of us -- as we used to do -- using self- reliance and our own initiatives and our guts and handling life ourselves HANNITY: Stay there. We'll take a break. We're just getting started. LIMBAUGH: Not moving. HANNITY: We'll continue. More with Rush Limbaugh, with us for the full hour. We are at his southern command headquarters, EIB Network. Please stay with us. HANNITY: All right. As we continue, southern command, Rush Limbaugh EIB headquarters, this is it. This is where you do your show. LIMBAUGH: It really is. HANNITY: Every day. LIMBAUGH: There is an ordinance in Palm Beach, you cannot work from your home -- and so, which is fine, it is the case, so we built this, and it is like a living room, home office. Can I do one thing personal? Every time I am on your show, people ask me what this is. I get emails, what is this? HANNITY: Right, your calculator implant. LIMBAUGH: Well, yes, it's a direct aligned to the West Wing is what it is. (LAUGHTER) LIMBAUGH: No, these are cochlear implants. I'm deaf, I am 100 percent deaf, and I can only hear bionically with these. Very quickly, the human ear has 35,000 hair cells each, they determine and the sensitivity of the human hearing. I don't have it. Mine are dead, they laid down and died. Autoimmune. So I have eight man-made, biological electrodes -- bionic electrodes that try to do what 35,000 hair cells do. And it's a miraculous thing. If this had happened -- if I lost my hearing 15 years before I did, it would have been the end of my career, because the tech had not been invented. It is really fortunate, and I look at it as something to be extremely grateful. HANNITY: I remember in the interim time -- not to get too distracted, we got a lot to talk about. I do radio, as you do. I do not know how it's possible. It's like most people in radio, DJs, talk shows, I am cranking that thing up. And dramatic hearing loss after 30 years. LIMBAUGH: I did three months totally deaf, I couldn't get surgery done because I had an infection. So, three months. So, you rely on how your voice feels. HANNITY: Right. LIMBAUGH: And you have to consciously tell yourself, don't -- when you can't hear, you speak up. HANNITY: Right. LIMBAUGH: You have to tell yourself -- I asked of them, asked the doctors, if I don't do this, can I speak normally for the rest of my life? They said no. If you can't hear yourself speak, you will end up sounding like someone who has not heard before, so that you have to do the implants. But that's what they are. They were really a career saver. HANNITY: Thank God, you are still here and going strong, 30th anniversary, which was a big deal. For those of us that followed behind you, it's a big deal because you did forge a path for all of us. And we all owe you a debt of gratitude. That's why, really, I wanted to be here. Explain the Trump phenomenon. Maybe we have a more unique perspective because we both knew him way before he ever thought about running. LIMBAUGH: Right. I don't think it is hard to understand the Trump phenomenon at all. If you are not poison -- I use that as an exaggeration -- if you are not affected by inside the Beltway or Washington establishment thinking, understanding Trump is easy. It's elite versus real people. It's somebody that is fearless and willing to fight against the things that no Republican has been willing to fight against or defend. He's got an engaging personality. He doesn't offend people -- the left thinks he does because they act offended, but Trump just makes people laugh. They can't get over the fact that he is likable because they hate him. They despise him. I saw today - - are we allowed to mention competing cable networks? Because you dominate everything. They're just a bunch of -- (CROSSTALK) LIMBAUGH: Little Brian Stelter over on CNN. HANNITY: Humpty-dumpty. LIMBAUGH: It's what you call him. HANNITY: That is what I call him. Humpty-dumpty. LIMBAUGH: He has actually been somewhat nice to me, there are exceptions to it. But complaining that the president is talking too much, the president is in the media too much. This is a guy demand free access -- because he is polluting the air. He is lying, he's distorting, and he's not giving us enough time to catch up with him and to correct him. That's just keep going. President Trump, he is dominating these people. He is frustrating them. They've lost their monopoly. The Elizabeth Warren thing, the Pocahontas, proves they cannot shape public opinion anymore via narrative, and they are frustrated as they can be about that. HANNITY: He doesn't need them. LIMBAUGH: No. Part of the process -- part what is going on here, I believe, all of this -- I do call it abnormality. We are up against psychological disorder, abnormality, that is disguised as political issues. HANNITY: We talk about the media -- it has never been this abusively biased. LIMBAUGH: Well, it's not even biased. They're so far beyond biased. These people are part of the agenda. I think they run it. I think they are the people that orchestrate it, run it, in fact, even give some marching orders to each other. The point is, Trump has just got them bamboozled. I think part and parcel of what they are doing is trying to demonstrate to themselves they still have the power to shape public opinion via narrative. And it's causing all of these people on the left to get more and more and more extreme. And I'm just relying on the fact that average, ordinary Americans, like you and I are, are as repulsed as you and I are by this behavior that they are engaging in, the demands they are making on decent, god-fearing, America- loving people. We are not the problem. And yet we are portrayed as the problem. We're the enemy to these people. It's really scary. What happens when we lose, go back and look -- if we lose 2016, if they get the House, well, I'm just going to tell you, whatever Trump wants to do is going to stop. It's going to be paralyzed. It's going to be nothing but in every House committee that is relevant, inspections, investigations, subpoenas. They are going to go back and try to get Kavanaugh thrown out. It is going to be nothing but two years to get even with Trump for having the audacity to win. And the business of the nation is going to be brought to a screeching halt. In the meantime, they are going to try to get rid of the tax cuts. They're not going to succeed at any of this because the Senate is still going to be in the hands of Mitch McConnell, I especially him colonel. He moves so slow, but his speed he is really getting good. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He had a good run for what he-- (CROSSTALK) LIMBAUGH: And in the judicial. HANNITY: He did not on Gorsuch and on Kavanaugh, he's great. LIMBAUGH: But I still think Trump -- that's and whom I have come in terms of the politics of this, I still have implicit trust. I think Trump knows what he is doing. HANNITY: Here's my question. We've had all the success in two years. Obama, economically, the first president that never met 3 percent of GDP growth in history. LIMBAUGH: He didn't want to. This is the key. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It didn't happen. LIMBAUGH: America doesn't deserve that. HANNITY: Yes. LIMBAUGH: America is so oppressive, so mean to minorities. America doesn't deserve super power status. This is why I wanted Obama to fail. In his view, in the Alinsky view, in the American left's view, America is flawed, America is the problem in the world. America doesn't deserve-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The apologies. LIMBAUGH: Right. HANNITY: But economically 13 million more Americans on food stamps, eight million more in poverty. LIMBAUGH: That's good. That mean more people voting Democrat, more people depending on government. They want that, Sean. HANNITY: We have 14 states, record low unemployment. We had lowest unemployment since '69. LIMBAUGH: Right. HANNITY: A million more jobs than people on unemployment. LIMBAUGH: Right. HANNITY: Look at who is benefiting. African-American unemployment, lowest ever. Hispanic unemployment, Asian unemployment, women in the workplace unemployment, all of these success, you are saying, stops if they get the House. LIMBAUGH: That's -- let me ask you a simple question. Why? You just -- you heard him just go through these statistics. The facts of the economic advancement. We've got more jobs than there are job openings. HANNITY: A million. LIMBAUGH: We got a million more jobs than there are openings. That hasn't happened since 2017. Who was president then? It wasn't Obama. The things you just heard, Sean go through, the Democrats are angry at all of it. Why are they happy? Folks, we are in a roaring economy. More people than ever can get the job they want, they are getting raises. There are being bonus. We have people free to start their own businesses. The economy in every other aspect of life in America is on the upswing, and a political party and its voters are mad about it. Why? Why couldn't you be happy? The answer is very simple. If it happens as a result of individual aptitude and application instead of government making it happen, they are going to oppose it. This the greatest threat, economic activity, economic growth, self-sufficiency, self- reliance, people learning that the old rules of working hard and applying yourself pay off, biggest threat to the American left in the Democrat Party that there could be. HANNITY: Let me ask you this. LIMBAUGH: Why aren't they happy about this? I mean, everybody ought to be- - (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Because they lose their power. LIMBAUGH: Of course. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Here's what I want to ask. LIMBAUGH: A question answers itself. HANNITY: You have been a leader in the conservative movement in America-- (CROSSTALK) LIMBAUGH: I don't know. HANNITY: No. LIMBAUGH: I don't know. HANNITY: Number one-- (CROSSTALK) LIMBAUGH: The conservative-- HANNITY: -- there's audience sustained and bigger. LIMBAUGH: The conservative movement is led by never-Trumpers. HANNITY: Well, look, OK. LIMBAUGH: In their minds-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: If they had their way, where would we be? No here. Hillary. LIMBAUGH: Hillary -- Hillary would be president if they had their way. HANNITY: So here's my question. You knew well in fact, if you believe Goldwater was a wave, if you believe Reagan was a wave -- meaning the advancement of conservativism. If you believe Newton the contract was a wave-- LIMBAUGH: Right. HANNITY: -- where does Donald Trump -- I look at his policies. I've always been a conservative. I never change my views. I say it differently, new circumstances, but my fundamental core beliefs have never changed. Nor have yours. All of these people have said he is not a conservative. Where? Besides trade, and I don't even think trade -- he never planned a trade war. LIMBAUGH: He is implementing. HANNITY: Yes. LIMBAUGH: Look, I know these people, I got to know them in 30 years going to-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: William Buckley loves you. LIMBAUGH: Buckley, well, I will tell you a story about him in a minute where he would be. I thought you are going to ask me where he would be on Trump. But the answer to that is pretty simple. But they don't like Trump because of his manners. They -- Trump is implementing issues that these people have devoted their lives to seeing passed, and they oppose it and they are running away from it. It must never have been about the issues. It must be about the proper manners and making sure we don't offend our liberal friends in Washington so forth and all of that. So Trump does all of that. I can't abide this, this is so offensive to me, I can't do this. dunk. And so, meanwhile-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You're right. LIMBAUGH: -- everything that's happening is making America great, exactly as conservatives said it would, and they don't want to be on the bus. HANNITY: He -- I say, and I say to people and I said, what? He governs as strong a conservative as we've seen in our lifetime. LIMBAUGH: Yes, he does. But I don't think the divide in America is left and right so much. We're still there. HANNITY: Conservative principles. LIMBAUGH: Conservative principles it just-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Judges, tax cuts, regulation, border security. LIMBAUGH: Right. HANNITY: Peace through strength. LIMBAUGH: It's what kind of a country that the traditions of the founding are, are we going to go Marxist leftist? I mean, that's what this is about. We don't have in common with them, Sean. I hear all these people who still say we need to cross the aisle so that we can cooperate so that show the government -- what do we have in common? What, name something we have in common with any of the people acting to destroy Kavanaugh? Where is the middle ground to compromise with them on Kavanaugh. They didn't even want to deny him -- allow him due process. HANNITY: Zero. And no corroboration. LIMBAUGH: They wanted to destroy his life. And his family, his career, his past, his future, and they tell us, they are the party of compassion. HANNITY: We've seen before, we've senn that Bork, Clarence Thomas. LIMBAUGH: You see it every day. HANNITY: In every election year. LIMBAUGH: We see it every say. HANNITY: And now every day. LIMBAUGH: Donald Trump -- I'm sure you have taken your hits. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I want to ask you about this. LIMBAUGH: You've taken your hits-- HANNITY: Yes. LIMBAUGH: We see it's everybody -- that anybody that they determine is an effective messenger of anything they disagree with, they are going to target. HANNITY: We could do 10 hours except, you have to start getting paid. Rush is going to hate a question I'm going to ask him in a few minutes. He's going to hate me and never let me back in the studio. So we'll get back to that. Much more with Rush right after this. HANNITY: Welcome back to Hannity. We are coming to you live from EIB Southern Command, that means Rush Limbaugh is our guest for the full hour. I never thought in my lifetime, my mother was a prison guard. My dad was a family court probation -- Irish family, Rush. You know, a lot of NYPD cops. LIMBAUGH: Right. HANNITY: Two guys were deity, FBI in my family. I never thought FBI top officials, the people we give the powerful tools of intelligence to, would turn, not only on the American people. Lies at be told, FISA court frauds would be taken, it exonerates somebody that we know was guilty. But then use those tools and her bought and paid for Russian information to destroy the president that should have lost, according to Peter Strzok, 100 million to zero. LIMBAUGH: Right. HANNITY: Did you ever think you'd see that? LIMBAUGH: Well, honestly, no, I have the same attitude about law enforcement in general. HANNITY: yes, you do. LIMBAUGH: I've gotten to know some top-tier FBI people over the course of my life. Who, themselves now are appalled by this. The scope of this -- you have described this perfectly, the scope of this, when you stop and think of what happened here. That the top tier of the Obama Department of Justice -- do not leave him out of this. And everybody there, all of these people, Strzok, and Lisa Page, and McCabe, Bruce Ohr, Comey, this was a concerted effort to deny Donald Trump the presidency. They had to get Hillary exonerated, first. That is why they looked in a way in the e-mail scandal and the server. They had to get her elected. That would save their jobs, save their careers, and we wouldn't know any of this that we know had she been elected. They got scared when they saw that Trump was not going to be defeated in a landslide. The very process of using government intelligence agencies -- this is nothing for people to have seen this, how anyone can vote for Democrats after seeing what has happened here, the one person that really meddled with the Russians, the one person that really colluded, the one person that really rigged an election, none other than Madame Hillary. HANNITY: What an irony. LIMBAUGH: I mean, it's stunning here. And Trump hasn't done zilch, and Mueller has been looking. He got no limits on money or scope, he has been looking for two years. Zero. HANNITY: It doesn't exist. But it did -- imagine this. She, first, there was no bigger obstruction case. If Rush Limbaugh had subpoenaed your computers and your e-mails, and you deleted them, you acid wash your hard drive with bleach bit, yet have somebody that works here for you busted up your devices with hammers. I promise you, you would have gone to jail. LIMBAUGH: Easily. HANNITY: Easily. Slam-dunk case of obstruction. Exoneration written to me- - (CROSSTALK) LIMBAUGH: But far less than the dealing with the FBI, right. But they had to exonerate her, Sean. I mean, she was the Democrat nominee. She was the one guaranteeing their positions and their careers by virtue of her winning. They had to exonerate her. They could not on July 5th with Comey or in late October, they could not convict her or even charge her with anything. They did not want to affect the outcome of an election, while they are in the midst of literally doing that very thing. But it's stunning, Hillary Clinton cheats, Hillary Clinton, Glenn Simpson, Fusion GPS, Perkins Coie, Michael Steele or Christopher Steele, the whole thing is designed, opposition research, they create this document, and it is turned over as legitimate intelligence to the FISA court. They may have been on it, too. I haven't seen a lot of anger coming out of them. HANNITY: Great point. LIMBAUGH: And it is used to destroy Donald Trump and his campaign, then his transition, then his presidency much like they tried to destroy Kavanaugh. It cannot -- it cannot triumph. It simply cannot be allowed to triumph. HANNITY: If it's allowed we have a dual justice system. LIMBAUGH: We already do. HANNITY: We already do. LIMBAUGH: We got a two-tier justice system. HANNITY: It's like we have a one-tier tax system where, you know, the top 20 percent pretty much pay lower bill. Let me ask you about this Khashoggi. You saw Tom Friedman today. LIMBAUGH: Yes. Well, he made, Friedman made a good point about this. HANNITY: Yes. LIMBAUGH: And I got to acknowledge good points when they are made. I think this is precarious time for the Trump administration because the left is trying to use this Khashoggi death, tie it to Trump. They are trying to get Trump blame for everything. HANNITY: If he cured cancer, Rush, they would still be mad at him. LIMBAUGH: For destroying the livelihood of how many people in the medical field. HANNITY: They would find a reason. LIMBAUGH: The thing about Mohammed bin Salman, the thing he was doing that had everybody really exciting, the important thing he was doing, was supposedly reforming militant Islam. He was getting rid of the Wahhabi influence, which is where terrorist Islam comes from. The Saudi royal family is Islam. They are in charge of Mecca, and they determine what Islam is going to be. If it's going to be terrorist Islam, Wahhabi Islam the royal family Makes it happen. Well, Bin Salman is tired of being dependent on petrol dollars. He wants all this investment from Hollywood to tech. He wants to build a new city and, in the process, he's got to reform it. It looks like he let women drive, he's going to get rid of violent militant Islam and deemphasized Wahhabi. And now that's all good. The death is probably one of the most important things the Saudi royal family can do for the world, is to deemphasized the militant aspects of Islam. Then this Khashoggi things comes along, and it looks like there isn't any real reform. You criticize the state and they kill you, so forth. It's a -- I hope Trump and his team do it right on this because there are lay in and weight. If he goes-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's a trap. LIMBAUGH: - if he goes too far in what they think is exonerating he Saudis for oil deals or business deals or arms deals that are important to America. HANNITY: Can I -- didn't the Clintons take $25 million from the Saudis for their foundation? LIMBAUGH: Absolutely, it is a deal -- it's a two-way street. HANNITY: Where was the Benghazi outrage? (CROSSTALK) LIMBAUGH: Exactly. HANNITY: Except for conservatives. LIMBAUGH: I asked that the other day. HANNITY: Yes. LIMBAUGH: Where's all the concern for four dead Americans in Benghazi? But I just want to tell you one thing here, folks, trying to tell you that there is recorded evidence of the murder and the dismemberment and the dispatchment of the body, because it was recorded on his Apple watch. Khashoggi's apple watch. I'm here to tell you, that is not technological possibly -- technologically possible. There are three ways a watch can transmit data. LTE, which is cellular, Bluetooth, and Wi-Fi. Apple has not activated LTE in Turkey. That's the longest range. The only way this guy had it to transmit data from his watch to his phone would be Bluetooth. His car, his wife south -- fiance, really, I don't think it's possible from them to be a recording of what happened. HANNITY: We got to take a break. The question you're going to hate, number one and you-- (CROSSTALK) LIMBAUGH: I've never hated a question. I've rescinded some because they're stupid but I've-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Great. He's already accused my question to be stupid. (CROSSTALK) LIMBAUGH: No. Drive by it is, stupid question. I didn't want stupid. HANNITY: It might be. But I think an important one, and your predictions for 19 days. LIMBAUGH: OK. HANNITY: More with Rush Limbaugh as we continue. His Southern Command EIB headquarters, Rush for the full hour. HANNITY: As we continue with Rush Limbaugh. So, the first question you are going to hate, I was here last time. LIMBAUGH: Yes. HANNITY: I try never to bug you -- you don't like TV. You love this -- it is a golden mic, we'll get a shot of it behind you. Your radio audience is bigger, more massive today than it's ever been because of all the options and ways people can look. LIMBAUGH: It is amazing too. That's true. HANNITY: It's crazy, right? LIMBAUGH: Yes. HANNITY: So, my question is, I said, Rush, do one hour a month on TV. Just you, in the studio, do one hour every other week. Do one every quarter. You think I am a pain in the ass, you can say it. LIMBAUGH: No, no, I'm flattered. I'm flattered. I just -- I've been there, I've done-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: One hour a month. LIMBAUGH: One hour. But look at, there is already a controversy. Something I said earlier has already been wiped. You will-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's wiped clean. LIMBAUGH: -- you will never know, folks, because it was not deemed appropriate. It was not profanity, it was not offensive, but it has been wiped. HANNITY: I will never hear the end of this now ever. HANNITY: No, it's good. HANNITY: They are going to want to know. (CROSSTALK) LIMBAUGH: Outtakes will show up somewhere. HANNITY: No, they won't. No, they won't. LIMBAUGH: Somebody at Fox would, Sean. HANNITY: I've got it. It's happening. Here is my next thing. LIMBAUGH: Yes. HANNITY: I look at 19 days, I'm thinking, my gut, heart, mind, soul, I want to win. I'm not sick of winning. I hope, I think we are going to pick up some big seats in the Senate. Hoping on the House. Two far questions. Predictions, and what do you say to people that so respect what you have to say about this election in 19 days? LIMBAUGH: I still say that I think there are things that have yet to happen that are going to determine outcomes in some races that we don't know. So it's still very hard to predict. Kavanaugh feedback reaction was 100 percent positive for Republicans, the Democrats really blew that. But 435 of these things -- I don't know. I just rely on hope -- which is again, naive, I don't have survey data. I don't trust it. It hasn't been right consistently enough for me. And the people doing these surveys desperately want Trump gone. I don't know how they can take that out of their work. I don't believe in pure objectivity, so I distrust. HANNITY: If I put you on the spot with predictions. LIMBAUGH: We hold the House and we increase the Senate. And because I think that's justice. I think that's justice. I think the Democrat Party deserves to lose in the single biggest electoral landslide defeat in my lifetime-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And you-- LIMBAUGH: -- because of the actions they've taken just in the last month. HANNITY: Prove enough. And you'll think about maybe an hour a quarter? LIMBAUGH: I've never stop thinking about it. I'll think about it. HANNITY: You'll think about it. LIMBAUGH: Can do it right here? HANNITY: Right here. LIMBAUGH: Right here. HANNITY: Great to see you, thank you so much. Rush Limbaugh. All right. We'll wrap things up from Russia's studio when we come back. HANNITY: All right. Unfortunately, that's all the time we have left this evening and I want to thank a lot of people, they have a great crew here -- Rush Limbaugh, his crew for giving us the time to do the full hour tonight. Don't forget set your DVR, don't miss an episode. We're always fair and balanced, we're not the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Stay tuned. Laura Ingraham takes it away. She's in the swamp, the sewer D.C. We'll see you back here tomorrow night. Load-Date: October 19, 2018 End of Document The Caravan of Lies and Manipulation; Immigration Loopholes are Making Life Worse; Time to Walk Away from Dems' Con Games; One-On-One With Senator Ted Cruz; Dem Operative Arrested for Attack on Female GOP Campaign Manager; Interview with Congressman Devin Nunes; Rep. Nunes on Harassment by Dem Operative; Eric Trump Discusses Republican Chances in Upcoming Midterm Elections; Minnesota Republican Candidate Physically Assaulted; Facebook Removes Conservative News Page Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 18, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7450 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Trace Gallagher Guests: Cristin Vargas, Ted Cruz, Devin Nunes, Eric Trump, Shane Mekeland, Brian Kolfage Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Let not your heart be troubled. Stay tuned. Laura Ingraham takes it away. She's in the swamp. We'll see you back here tomorrow night. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington, and boy, do we have a show for you tonight. Texas Senator Ted Cruz will be here in a moment to respond to his opponent, Beto O'Rourke, who spoke out in at a town hall just moments ago. Plus, his reaction to the growing caravan making its way toward our border. Congressman Devin Nunes is here, and he has details of a Democratic operative who harassed him and was later arrested for assaulting a GOP campaign worker in Nevada. Wait till you hear what this group is affiliated with and where this person comes from. And just 18 days out from the midterm elections, Eric Trump is also here, and he's going to tell us why he says it's a good thing his father is the most important factor this election season. But first, the caravan of lies and manipulation. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. As we approach election day, here is one thing that has become patently obvious. Democrats are uninterested in the things Americans care about most. Their prosperity and their safety. Instead of policy prescriptions, Democrats poison American discourse with constant demonization and perpetual intimidation. In the Kavanaugh saga, we saw that they are masters at producing coordinated choreographed outrage. After that backfired, Democrats began to panic. Although still favored to take the House of Representatives, things began to shift somewhat after the Kavanaugh dust settled. Stories suddenly began to pop up that Pelosi, Schumer and company were concerned that Latino voters weren't sufficiently enthusiastic in the midterms, which of course could doom Democrat chances to take the House. Then, like magic, a few days later, a story appeared out of nowhere about another caravan of central Americans headed to the U.S. from Honduras. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (UNTRANSLATED). UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (UNTRANSLATED). (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: A former Honduran left-wing politician even joined the caravan for a time before he was arrested. So what started as a group of 1,600 soon became 2,000, and then 4,000, and apparently growing. Meanwhile, crusading reporters are feeding the narrative that anyone opposed to welcoming these caravaners into our country are cruel, horrible, awful, rotten people. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN HOST: So what is the GOP strategy? We see it at this point as to push fear and loathing. If you don't vote, the scary people from the south are coming for you. You see that picture? That's what they want you to think all immigrants look like. People laying on the floor splayed out, not as civilized as you, different from you. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The media's over the top slurs against those of us who believe that the system must change and that our border has to be protected, it speaks volumes about their bias and the real motivation. Of course, which is to help Democrats like presidential hopeful Julian Castro. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JULIAN CASTRO, FORMER UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT: The president continues to fearmonger around the issue of immigration. One of the worst things that has happened in these last 18 months has been basically state-sponsored child abuse of young kids at the border. This example today of what he said was a caravan, you know, he's picking that and he's trying to make an issue of it to gin up his base. I think that the American people can see through that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Do you know what the American people see through? Democrats' phony compassion politically timed in a desperate attempt to turn out Latino voters who themselves are seeing the wonders of the Trump economy, record low unemployment and the best economy in decades. Castro was the mayor of San Antonio and his brother, Joaquin, he represents San Antonio in Congress. But I've never seen either of them on television standing for the families of those brutally murdered by illegal aliens, brutally, brutally hurt by rape, spousal abuse, child abuse, and as I said, even murder. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Today's crime scene tape bordered the doors and broken glass are still outside this apartment on Jones Maltsberger Road. It was here just yesterday where firefighters found a badly burned body. Police arrested and charged 20-year-old Ernesto Esquivel-Garcia with murder, arson, abuse of a corpse. San Antonio has learned U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is now a part of this investigation. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: ICE was apparently involved from the very beginning in the story, even before the gruesome murder. Back in 2017, Garcia was arrested for DWI and a misdemeanor criminal mischief after he reportedly rammed his truck into the car of an ex-girlfriend and her family members. He got an immigration judge, though, to give him a voluntary departure order. Now, would you be surprised to hear that he did not leave the country voluntarily after that order? A few months later, he was in ICE custody a second time and a second time he was given a voluntary departure order. And now, in just 11 days, he awaits his trial for the murder of Jared Vargas. Why aren't any of the Democrats who rail against family separation also railing about stories like this? Fifty-five illegal immigrants found stuffed in a truck ready to be shipped across the United States, undoubtedly many to unscrupulous employers. Our open borders, as well as our immigration and asylum loopholes, are enriching the cartels, they are endangering migrants, and they are also making life worse for most Americans beyond the super rich who live in a protective bubble. How can we allow this to continue and still be a country? Now, of course, not all illegal immigrants commit violent crime and many are good and hardworking people. But that's not really the point. No American should suffer or be brutalized in order to fulfill the Democrats' fantasy of a borderless society. No American worker should see his or her wages go down because there is an illegal immigrant who just arrived in the U.S. who is willing to work for 40 percent less. In Donald Trump, we finally have a president who wants to tackle this problem, not just pass it onto the next president the way Obama did. You don't buy for a moment what the left is selling you. Democrats are the ones using this and stoking false fear among the Latinos to try to flip Congress. Again, no ideas, just more emotional manipulation. We welcome and we treasure the Hispanic immigrants in this country who came here the legal way, like Tia from Venezuela, who called in to my radio show today. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice over): I was born in Venezuela. I am a proud American citizen now, but I am terrified of what is happening. My mother would've never thought that Venezuela, 30 years later, was going to be a socialist country, and then five to eight years after that was going to descent into a dictatorship. Because once they get in, they change the Constitution. And now they are not even waiting. They want the Supreme Court because they want to change the Constitution, and there goes our country. (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: There goes our country. We get a lot of those calls on the radio. Legal immigrants enraged. Now, we all know the negative changes that open borders and catch and release bring to America. Look no further than California's rampant homelessness, filthy streets, ballooning low fare (ph) programs, crashing regulations. That's what a Democrat super majority sanctuary state ends up looking like. The president is standing up for you. He wants this to stop. This morning, he tweeted, "we spend billions enforcing other countries' borders as our own has become a joke. Our laws ignored and our generation and compassion exploited" He said this as well. He said, "in addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught. And if they are unable to do so, I will call up the U.S. military and close our southern border." That's what his tweet said. Now, the Democrats talk taking the House, will ensure that this caravan of 4,000 eventually becomes a flow of four million, four million plus before we know it. This cannot happen. But as we told you last night, if you are still on the fence about what to do on November 6th in the midterm election, just think for a moment about who is in line to chair the important committees when it comes to these issues, like Homeland Security and the Judiciary Committee if the Democrats do take the house. Bennie Thompson from Mississippi would take Homeland Security. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. BENNIE THOMPSON (D), MISSISSIPPI: You would think the most important homeland security problem facing the nation is a handful of central Americans moving through Mexico. That does not make it so. Better to distract the American people from the real issues facing the department and perhaps from the president's own problems too. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And meanwhile, Jerry Nadler would oversee judiciary which includes immigration and border security. And we know he's far more interested in investigating Justice Kavanaugh than solving our border problem. Come on. Hispanic Americans are smart enough to spot a con when they see one. So I say it's time to walk away from the Democrats' cynical game of identity politics and emotional manipulation and towards candidates whose policies result in higher wages and better security for all Americans. And that's THE ANGLE. Here with us now is Cristin Vargas. Her nephew Jared was the man murdered in the story I just talked about in THE ANGLE. Cristin, first of all, I want to thank you so much tonight for being here. I know it's really difficult to do this interview. This is a horrible situation for your family. I just appreciate it so very much. I think Americans need to hear about Jared story and what happened to him. Cristin, how does your family react to those who say that raising concerns about illegal immigration and clearly what is de facto amnesty going on are just being used, these stories are being just used to stoke fear? CRISTIN VARGAS, AUNT OF MAN ALLEGEDLY KILLED BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT: It's completely disgusting and it's outrageous. I just want to thank you, Laura, for the opportunity to come on your show and for paying attention and caring about Jared. INGRAHAM: Tell me about him, his life, his family. I know his mother is devastated. Tell me about him. VARGAS: Absolutely I could frankly talk about him for hours and I know we don't have that kind of time here today, but Jared, beautiful mind college student here in San Antonio. Hard worker is an understatement. He was always working full time and going to school, sometimes working two jobs. He had an uncanny ability to balance family, friends, work, school. Always smiling. Just an awesome kid. INGRAHAM: Ernesto Esquivel-Garcia, I hate to even mention his name. He's up for murder. Trial is in 11 days. Illegally in the United States. He is accused of setting fire to your nephew's apartment and abuse of the corpse, burning your nephew alive. How did your nephew know him, did he know him? VARGAS: So, Jared has encountered this individual at his place of employment. He worked at a high end bar/restaurant here in San Antonio. And the individual that killed Jared was working there under an alias name. As a matter of fact, he has about nine alias names that we are aware of. Using fake, fraudulent documents to do so. And so they knew each other for less than three weeks, but they met each other through their employer. INGRAHAM: And Jared's grandmother is a dual citizen of Mexico and the United States, I understand, and she is beyond furious, heartbroken, as is so many members of your family. Losing such a beautiful young man working hard in this country only -- this is a death that you wouldn't want to happen to an animal, but this man and this country did this who should never have been in this country, Cristin. And I think it's so important for you and your family to speak out about those people who are continuing to welcome in all these illegal immigrants. We don't know what their intentions are. A lot of them are just here to work and indeed Garcia was working. But it's not a victimless crime, is it? VARGAS: No, it's not. You called at the fact that he was working, but he's also committing crimes. So it's just really difficult for us to process now from the outside looking into this and just seeing all of the systemic failures as far as coming here illegally, working here illegally, living here illegally, continuing to break laws, commit crimes, and ultimately taking Jared away from us. We are very strongly positioned that this was a preventable tragedy, a completely preventable tragedy, and I think that's what is most difficult as we continue to grieve and try to make some sort of sense of this. INGRAHAM: Did you hear from any of the politicians in your state? Did you hear from the Castro brothers? Did they call or come visit your family? VARGAS: The Castro brothers absolutely did not. We have had a -- INGRAHAM: Oh, my god. VARGAS: -- very, very bright light come into our world. His name is Chip Roy. He is a congressional candidate here in San Antonio. He listened to our story. He cares about our story. We've developed a personal relationship with him. And it's been really helpful to us to have someone that's actually advocating for us, understand the issues. And as we explain the fractures that we are seeing as victims, he gets the big picture and we just trust that -- clearly, we need Chip but we need more of Chip too to help not just put pressure on enforcing the existing laws but influencing change so this can stop. Our justice position is to not have one other family go through this complete horror that we are having to go through. INGRAHAM: Cristin, I'm going to talk to you off-line because I want to try to help your family as well. So, I will be in touch with you after the show, but thank you for coming on. This is so enraging that a single American loses a life because of these ridiculous policies. Cristin, please give my best to your family and I'm so sorry for the loss of Jared. I wish I got the chance to meet him. I'm so sorry. VARGAS: Thank you so much, Laura, again for this opportunity and thank you for caring. INGRAHAM: I do care. I care greatly. I'll be in touch with you after the show and thank you again. VARGAS: Thank you so much. INGRAHAM: Absolutely. For reaction to this story and as response to his opponent, Beto O'Rourke, town hall earlier, we are joined by Texas Senator Ted Cruz. Senator, I went long on that interview and I'm sorry because I took some of your time. But this is a great family from Texas. Their lives have been turned upside down and hearts broken. They don't even get a call from the former mayor of San Antonio who was on TV talking about this caravan thing and demonizing Donald Trump and all Republicans, and didn't even get a call from his brother who is a congressman from the area where this kid was burned to death. What is going on in this country, senator? SEN. TED CRUZ (R), TEXAS: Laura, thank you for having Miss Vargas on and for telling her story and telling Jared's story. It is heartbreaking, it is tragic, and it never should have happened. You are right, the Democratic politicians, they turned a blind eye to the suffering, the violent crimes that are committed. I was glad to hear her describe that she's been able to work with Chip Roy. Chip is my former chief of staff and he's the Republican nominee for Congress out of San Antonio. He is going to make a terrific congressman. Miss Vargas should not be suffering. This individual, this illegal alien, committed multiple crimes. Our revolving door system lets criminals, drug criminals, violent criminals who are illegal aliens stay here. You've got a voluntary removal order which he ignored. It's the reason we need to pass Kate's law, which I've authored in the Senate that says aggravated felon, violent criminal illegal aliens who enter the country illegally repeatedly should face a mandatory minimum prison sentence so that violent criminals are not in our communities, they are not taking lives -- INGRAHAM: That was a DWI though, senator -- CRUZ: -- but rather protect -- INGRAHAM: Yeah, this was a DWI. CRUZ: You're right but a DWI -- we should have deported him when he had committed DWI. When he was arrested, he should have been put on a plane or put on a bus and sent back to the country he came from. We shouldn't be releasing illegal aliens who commit DWI. I have met too many Texans, too many people who lost loved ones to illegal immigrants who are criminals, who commit DWIs, and it's wrong. We need to protect our country and not allow criminals and drug dealers to come into the country illegally. INGRAHAM: Senator, you did a fantastic job in your debate the other night with your opponent, Mr. O'Rourke. He is in a town hall earlier tonight and said this, and I will get your reaction. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. BETO O'ROURKE (D), TEXAS: I decided that he spent the rest of the debate responding to every single dishonest thing that he said or I could make sure everyone understood exactly what he's doing. Look, he's dishonest. It's one of the reasons that he got tagged with this nickname. That nickname resonates because it's true. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Obviousness, the "Lyin' Ted" nickname which is unfortunate for the primary. But now he's quoting the president in order to make his case. It seems like there is no there there. I watched him. He is a good-looking guy. There is no there there. There is no like, where is the beef? CRUZ: Well, you can see the desperation in that debate where he was insulting me. He was attacking me. He called me a liar. What's striking is what he was responding to when he screamed liar as I pointed out that he voted in favor of a $10 a barrel tax on every barrel of oil produced in the state of Texas. And his response is not to engage in substance but simply screamed, liar, liar, liar. Well, you know, facts matter, and we put up on our website, tedcruz.org, the exact text of the resolution that Congressman O'Rourke voted on. President Obama proposed a $10 a barrel tax on oil. Congress -- the House of Representatives brought up a resolution saying, we don't want a $10 tax on every barrel of oil and O'Rourke voted no. And his response is just to scream liar and then that's not honest (ph). INGRAHAM: Senator, we're out of time, but we enjoyed that debate. I wouldn't want to debate you any day of the week, no thanks. Good luck, Beto. It's not going to happen. Great to see you, Senator. Thanks so much. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ERIC HOLDER, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, Michelle would say that, you know, when they go low, we go high. No, no. When they go low, we kick them. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It seems that some Democrats have been taking suggestions like that from Eric Holder quite literally. A hostile democratic operative with ties to George Soros and a long history of harassing Republicans has been arrested for battery against a female campaign manager of a GOP candidate. For details like this, we're joined by fox news correspondent, Trace Gallagher. Trace? TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Laura. The main in question is Wilford M. Stark III, known very well on Capitol Hill as Mike Stark. He was arrested in Las Vegas for assaulting Kristin Davison, the campaign manager for Nevada GOP gubernatorial nominee, Adam Laxalt. Davison says Mike Stark grabbed her and yanked her arm and refused to let go. She told authorities the attack left her traumatized and horrified. But for Mike Stark, it might have been another day to the office. He is a reporter for the American Bridge 21st Century, a liberal organization founded by David Brock, who also founded the liberal watchdog group, Media Matters, and funded by billionaire, George Soros, famous for giving money to liberal political causes. After Stark was arrested, American Bridge fired him for his bad behavior. But sources said they also hired him for his bad behavior. Conn Carroll, the communications director for Utah Republican senator, Mike Lee, told Fox News that during the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings, Stark followed, filmed and harassed Senator Lee in the basement of the Senate Building. Carroll also tweeted, quote, "I've known Mike Stark for literally over a decade. This is who he is. American Bridge knows who he is and what he does and they hired him accordingly." In fact, sources tell Fox News that when Stark was arrested for assault in Vegas, he told police that this was, quote, "his job," and he does this for a living. That prompted Kentucky Senator Rand Paul to question whether American Bridge was propagating this, quoting, "Soros paid protester arrested, same group operates inside congressional office buildings. Are Democrats paying to incite violence?" And Starks' resume highlights a violent past. He was convicted for disorderly conduct after aggressively approaching Virginia GOP gubernatorial candidate, Ed Gillespie, back in 2017. And earlier, he was arrested for assaulting a female staffer for interior secretary Ryan Zinke. American Bridge has not responded to whether it knew about Stark's criminal past. Laura? INGRAHAM: Trace, thanks so much. And California Congressman House Intel Chairman Devin Nunes was also harassed by this man just a few months earlier. Congressman Nunes joins us now. Congressman, how long was this Stark guy bothering you and have there been any others harassing you in a similar manner because this is an attack to the Democrats, get in your face, hope to provoke you, get an inch from your face or a centimeter from your face, and then see what flies? SEN. DEVIN NUNES (R), CALIFORNIA: Yeah. They've been doing this to me and many of my colleagues, Laura, for the better part of a year and a half. Anybody who is involved in the Russian investigation and all, we were harassed. This guy in particular actually went to our office numerous times. He would follow me in. He'll get in my face. He showed up at committee hearings. He even showed up at place downtown in Washington where I was giving a speech one time. And including -- he actually showed up at the airport one time. And so, we had to have the Capitol Police come several times because he would harass me, he'd harassed our staff. And look, this is not the way we should operate here in the United States of America. People should be frightened about this. Nobody is going to want to do these jobs if you have to deal with guys like this, right? Like for me, I'm fine. I'll fight back. But look at how many people that maybe you're thinking of becoming a judge or Supreme Court judge or run for office? With these lunatics running around like this, funded by billionaires who should know better, this is not the type of activity we want to see in this country. INGRAHAM: Well, when you say you're going to fight back, that's the point though, right? You really can't unless they touch you. If they touch you, they can just grab your hand, that's an assault. So then -- if you -- NUNES: Well, what I mean by -- what I mean -- INGRAHAM: -- if you're in legitimate fear of your life, you can respond. Now, look, I mean if someone ever comes up to my family or touches one of my kids, good luck. I mean I'm -- this mother tiger comes out. You're not - - it's not going to happen. OK? NUNES: Yeah. INGRAHAM: So, I got -- it doesn't bother -- people like who get in my face, just go ahead. I mean I have plenty of -- even jokes that I can throw back at you. But you are right. This is meant to intimidate people who might not, you know, be like you and I away from politics altogether. And George Soros, we cannot underestimate the power of his billions of dollars funneling through these David Brock groups and run by David Brock whether it the Media Matters crew or whether it's American Bridge crew. At some point, is there a time to investigate their 501(c)(3) or 501(c)(4) status? I mean, is this really -- is this the type of legitimate speech or is this just targeted harassment? NUNES: Well, look. This gets to the heart of campaign finance reform. We last had that under George W. Bush at the beginning of his term. And what this has led to is absolute chaos where billionaires can come in and feed these guys. So, is there's something need to be done about this? Yes. But unfortunately, the Republicans, we're not going to get involved in that type of behavior. And I think the Democrats, until they're taught a lesson, they're not going to change. They see this working. INGRAHAM: Right. NUNES: They see that they're protesting, the harassment, all of this, they see it as working. And I hope it backfires this fall and I think a lot of people are slowly waking up to the fact that this is not the type of behavior we should have in our political system. INGRAHAM: You live in a beautiful state. California is a beautiful state. But it basically has a super majority democrat-controlled of the state legislature, obviously all of the senators, governors, at least for now. The rest of the country, what do we need to learn from California? Because people say what happens in California will come to your state eventually. So what shouldn't people want other than the beach and the beautiful agriculture and all that, the mountains, and so forth, but what else don't the American people not want? NUNES: What you are seeing happen in California today, Laura, is you're massive homelessness. Because of our weather, because we don't arrest people, because we don't put them in jail, because we let them get away with everything, we have massive homelessness all over the state. And it's really people who are -- it's sad, because they are burned out on drugs, they have got a lot of mental problems. INGRAHAM: And a lot of illegal immigrants on the streets, correct? There are a lot of illegal immigrants in a lot of the tent villages as well in L.A. and so forth. NUNES: It's tough to know who they are or whether they are legal or not legal, but I will tell -- people think it's just San Francisco and they hear about the feces on the street which is absolutely disgusting, and it's true. But you see it all over California in any city or town that you go to or visit. INGRAHAM: Congressman, before we let you go, apparently some of your opponents think it's really funny to put signs around your district written in Russian, OK? Nunes -- means "Nunes got to go," basically. That's what that says. I speak Russian so I can translate the signs for you, but I'm not sure most people in your district are understanding the Russian. So I think the joke -- I not sure the joke is actually going to be very effective there. NUNES: Well, I think the point of those signs, people understand, is those are also being put up by the same people that are funding this Stark character. So the billionaires are funding protesters, they are funding movement, they are funding crazy building billboards. The best part about that billboard, though, is I have a 98-year-old grandmother who has our family farm here, lives on it. She has been harassed by reporters and other wackos that have shown up on her house. She lives by herself. And the other day she told me she was driving down the freeway and saw some of those signs. She actually thought they were mine. So I think to some degree, they are benefiting me to some degree. INGRAHAM: That's not a bad picture of you, Congressman. I would take all the facetime you can get there on the billboard. All right, Congressman, we got through a whole interview and we didn't even talk about Rod Rosenstein not one time. That's got to be a record with you. But we'll have it next time. Congressman, thanks so much. NUNES: Thank you. INGRAHAM: Despite not being on the ballot, the 2018 midterms are all about President Trump. Eric Trump is here to talk on why he thinks that's the best possible scenario. Don't go away. INGRAHAM: As the midterms fast approach, the numbers speak for themselves. Regardless of whether voters say they are supporting Republicans or Democrats, the one common denominator in their decision is President Trump. So is that good news or bad news just 18 days out from the election? Joining me now to discuss is Eric Trump. Eric, good to see you, my friend. ERIC TRUMP: How are you? INGRAHAM: I'm great. Thanks for being here. Your father on the campaign trail tonight in Montana. Do you think these visits are helping boost the enthusiasm in some of these tighter races? ERIC TRUMP, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT, THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION: There's no question about it. Look at the audiences he has. It's incredible. He'll got to Montana, he'll have 20,000 people show up. He'll go to Nevada, he'll have 30,000 people show up. People are excited. People want to get out of there. The energy in those rooms is nothing short of incredible. And listen, he has a lot to tell, Laura, right? We have the best economy that we've ever had as a country. We have the fastest GDP growth, the lowest unemployment, the stock market is booming, consumer confidence is through the roof. I could go on and on and on. But he has a lot to boast about. He's doing an unbelievable job and our country is back. We haven't seen this in a very long time, but our country is back. INGRAHAM: Ade Eric, when you see the hostility, despite all what you just laid out, the hostility out there. I'm going to play you a clip of a total lunatic ripping down Ted Cruz signs. We had Ted Cruz on earlier but we didn't have time to play this for him, so we'll play it for you. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have about 100 of these. I'm about to put more out. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I hate Ted Cruz. I hate Ted Cruz. I hate Ted Cruz. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That kind of sums it up, doesn't it? They are either clawing at the Supreme Court door or I guess ripping other people's posters down and signs. ERIC TRUMP: It's unbelievable. The lack of civility I talk about it all the time. It's unbelievable. I saw that earlier today. And listen, that helps. Honestly, those people are so radical no one can relate to them. No one can relate to them. You saw the guy last week who had his pickup truck burned because he had American flag on the bumper and a Trump sticker on the bumper. INGRAHAM: Yes, we had him on. ERIC TRUMP: You have the person, as you said, clawing at the Supreme Court door. You see Ted Cruz and his great wife Heidi, they are getting yelled that at dinner. I could go on and on. But when does this end? Laura, Americans don't want to see the stuff. That's not who we are as a society. That is a rogue faction. But the left has gone so far left, they've become so radicalized that they think its acceptable behavior. When you have Eric Holder going out there and saying, you know what, when they're down, let's kick them in the head. And Hillary coming out and saying the only time we are going to be civil human beings is when we win again? Why didn't you win in the first place? Your message didn't work. You weren't effective. You weren't doing the job, and you had a person much better and who came in and beat handily. And so it's really a shame. INGRAHAM: Eric, one of your father's favorite people out there of all time, I think, is Rosie O'Donnell. So she mixed it up today with Nicole Wallace. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wants to send the military to the border. ROSIE O'DONNELL: I want to send the military to the White House to get him. (LAUGHTER) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think I can top that. That's a pretty good idea. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's a good idea. They are either blowing the White House up or they want to take the military and take him out of the White House. By any means necessary. I guess it's a joke, but it's not all that funny. ERIC TRUMP: No, it's not that funny. When you actually forget about Rosie, she pops back into the scene. It's every two months she seems to cycle through and through and through. It's kind of amazing how that works. But this isn't what people care about. I think we're going to do very well in the midterms. People have to get out there and vote, right? It's the most important thing in the world. But the country is back, Laura. We are winning by everything a metric. It doesn't matter if it's our military. It doesn't matter if it's our economy, ISIS, immigration. America is winning. People have jobs again, salaries are going up, 401(k)s are through the roof. That's what people care about. INGRAHAM: But the left, the left is -- these people want to so chaos. ERIC TRUMP: Because they don't have a message, Laura. INGRAHAM: They have no message. ERIC TRUMP: They stand for high taxes, they stand for banning plastic straws, they stand for going after law enforcement, and total anarchy. That's their message. INGRAHAM: Abolish ICE, that's their other big platform. And 200 Riverside Boulevard, Trump condominium, beautiful building. The Trump name now taken down from that building. What is that all about? You're in the business of running this company on top of everything else that you have going on in your life, your family, everything else, but that just seems like hate. What is that? ERIC TRUMP: It's the nastiness of politics, it's a byproduct of the nastiness of politics. We've been out of that building for a very long time. We sold out. It was a great success. My father literally rebuilt the entire west side of New York City. You probably know the old railway yards, and it was a major success. But this is the byproduct and nastiness of politics. You have one person who doesn't like you who sits on the board, and what they can do is pretty unbelievable. But again, we've been at that building for a very long time. It doesn't hurt us at all. But it is certainly the byproduct of exactly what we've been talking about the entire show, that radical left, that nastiness. And it's going to be defeated. It is absolutely going to be defeated. INGRAHAM: Eric, it is almost like the better the country does, the more unhappy and bitter they become. ERIC TRUMP: They realize they're losing. They're realize they're lashing out, and they're lashing out. They all got it wrong, Laura. You know this better than any person in the world, they all got it wrong. "The New York Times" election morning gave my father a 1.9 percent chance of winning, 1.9 percent. And he won easily, right? And so what do they do? They double down, and they double down. And Laura, I promise you, and you know this, they are going to get it wrong again, and they are going to get it wrong again. My father is going to go down as truly one of the greatest presidents in the history of this country. This country is winning again, we're back, and I could not be more proud of him. INGRAHAM: Thank you so much, Eric, for being here tonight. I really appreciate it. We have been highlighting the recent spate of attacks on Republican candidates, campaign workers, offices. And up next, we speak to a Minnesota candidate who may be the victim of the worst attack yet. His story when we return. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS, (D) CALIFORNIA: They're not going to be able to go to a restaurant. They are not going to be able to stop at a gas station. They are not going to be able to stop at a department store. The people are going to turn on them. They are going to protest. They are going to absolutely harass them. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That threat from auntie Maxine has now extended to include people who are running as Republicans. There have been at least eight violent attacks on Republicans just this year. Republican politicians, their staffers, and their offices where they work have frankly become a recurring target for political violence. And one of the more recent cases out of Minnesota might be the worst one yet. Local House candidate Shane Mekeland was out at a restaurant when a man approached him, punched him in the face, leaving him concussed. He was knocked out. Mekeland is still recovering from the incident, which he believes was politically motivated. Shane joins us now. Shane, tell us a little bit about your assailant. Did you know him before the assault? SHANE MEKELAND, (R) MINNESOTA CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE: No, I did not know him. And I walked into this place to inquire about renting or using a banquet room that they have for a political function for the Republican ticket in our area. The owner was not there, but somebody said, how's the campaign going? So there was a conversation. Several people throughout the time come and go, but this gentleman did eventually come around. And there was conversation with him. It did not seem bad in the beginning. And then somebody to my right started talking so I looked away. When I heard this out of my left ear, this guy say, you bleeping people don't give a bleep about the middle class, and he literally punched me somewhere right about in here, which I was in a chair, which sent it flying backwards. When my head hit the floor, that was the last thing I remember. I was told by one of the witnesses that he then, this was a very big man, six and a half feet tall at least and probably somewhere between 270 to 300 pounds, with very big hands, I might add, that he jumped down on top of me. Apparently, he wasn't done. But luckily the folks nearby were able to pull him off and throw him off. INGRAHAM: OK, so now he has not been arrested. And you do believe this is politically motivated, targeting you because you are a Republican? Did you know he was following you? How would he know that you're going into this banquet room? I'm not questioning that, I'm just trying to figure this out. MEKELAND: When I walked in there was a group of people around. And one gal, she brought up, how's the campaign? So it started with this younger man saying, campaign for what? And then he told me his story. He actually got a yard sign from me that we went and put in in his vehicle. And then he went away. This other person moved and we started talking. He actually took my lip piece and we shook hands prior to all this. and this comment comes out when I'm looking away. I never saw it coming. The doctor said it might've been in my benefit on the one hand because I would've tensed up and he probably would've done a little more damage. INGRAHAM: Hold on. Do you feel like the intimidation and the call to get in people's faces, you just heard auntie Maxine Waters, is that fueling this, this violence? MEKELAND: I actually put this on Facebook in a response to somebody sending me well wishes when heard about this. Her name, Hillary's name, Eric Holder, and a local paper. It literally tore me apart and said, insinuated how would their comments affect rural Minnesota. So I don't know if they don't think we have TVs or radios out there, but it's obviously very much tied together. They are stirring up the pot with people. I personally did not sign up to get sucker punched and knocked out. I don't wish a concussion on anybody. This is one of the most awful things I've ever had happen to me. And I certainly don't want this to be the environment my 12-year-old daughter is brought up in going forward in life. Up here in Minnesota, we have a lot of really close races, and we have a DFL governor who is going on sanctuary state versus our Republican who is completely normal and less taxes and less government. INGRAHAM: The idea, Shane, that Minnesota will elect this leftwing Democrat governor? Forget about it. Minnesota, you've got to wake up. This kind of attack on a guy running for district 15-B in a rural area? This is just OK now? This is what the Democrats have come to? This is insanity. I hope you are OK. I know you're not really able to go out campaigning now because of this injury. Shane, please feel better. Take care of yourself, get surrogates out there to campaign for you. But you need to pull out a win. MEKELAND: Will do. INGRAHAM: We are sorry about what happened to you, and stand strong. We have highlighted numerous cases of conservative censorship from big tech on this show, but this could be the worst. A triple amputee Air Force vet is here next. He's going to tell us what Facebook did to him and to his family, next. INGRAHAM: No to a particularly egregious case of tech censorship. Facebook reportedly deleted a disabled Air Force vets' conservative news page without warning. This after he says he invested over $300,000 in ads. Earlier this month Facebook announced it was purging more than 800 accounts because of inauthentic behavior, but our next guest never imagined it could happen to him. Brian Kolfage's page had a verified checkmark and he says 3.5 million fans, but it was all taken away in an instant. Brian joins us now to tell us about it. Brian, first of all, thank you so much for your heroism and sacrifice for this country. You are amazing. And I have to ask you, has Facebook been in touch with you at all? BRIAN KOLFAGE, U.S. AIR FORCE (RET): No. First, thanks for having me on. No, Facebook has not been in touch with us. And I want to start this off and just get it out here. I want you guys know that I sacrificed three limbs for everybody, for your freedom, my family's freedom because that's why I believe in. That's why I joined the military. If I can get everybody to go to Fightforfreespeech.com, we really need everyone to go there and sign up and sign our petition, and we're going to take this fight to Facebook. Go ahead, Laura. INGRAHAM: What was the reasoning, you think? You helped raise $300,000 in the Kavanaugh fight, I know that. And then it was after that your Facebook page was, bingo, gone. KOLFAGE: There is no real reason. We remained in contact in Facebook for nine months begging them since January when they rolled out the new rule changes. They would not contact us to give us the meeting to go over the rules. We wanted them to remain in contact to go over these rules, but they wouldn't. They didn't want to help us. We were begging them. I sent over 50 emails directly to our Facebook contact Katie Harvin (ph) and she was ignoring it. Any other person or any other company, they would've been helping them. They didn't want to help us. We wanted to understand the rules. We wanted to be the good part of Facebook. We always follow the rules. The Facebook page never had an issue. We were never banned from Facebook. Never had issues with false news, misinformation, or anything. So the whole reasoning is up in the air. We don't understand why. INGRAHAM: We reached out as well, Brian. We reached out as well and they didn't get back to us. KOLFAGE: The one thing we did do, after nine months we finally did get that meeting two weeks ago. But you know what, on October 3rd, when that meeting was supposed to take place, they didn't give us and they canceled it two days prior. Right when they canceled it, we had raised over $600,000 with John Hopkins who founded rightwing news, and that's when it was pulled. That was in the news. I was raising all that money for Justice Kavanaugh. They pulled it. One week later, our page was gone. And all our pages were gone. I own a coffee company called Military Grade Coffee. That company has nothing to do with politics, and they yanked it. That was my financial support for my family. And they are attacking my family, they're attacking me, and they're attacking my rights. INGRAHAM: Brian, we are going to keep on the story and we're going to follow the story. Thank you for your service to this country, your sacrifice to this country. And everyone go to Brian's website. It will be linked on LauraIngraham.com. Brian, thanks so much. Stay there. INGRAHAM: It is time for the last bite. What are these midterm elections really about? Trump told the Montana crowd this earlier tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: That's what it's going to be. It's going to be an election of those things, law and order, Kavanaugh. Remember commonsense. And remember it's going to be an election of the caravan. You know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. (END VIDEO CLIP) LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Election of the caravan, OK. That could be tomorrow with THE ANGLE. All right. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team take it from here. Shannon. Load-Date: October 19, 2018 End of Document Twenty Days Until Crucial Midterm Elections; Interview With Republican Senate Hopefuls, Josh Hawley Of Missouri And Martha McSally of Arizona; Democrats Very Eager To Take Back Control Of The House And The Senate From Republicans In The Coming Midterms But People Say They Don't Have A Platform That Would Define What They Are Running For, Instead, They Continue With Fear-mongering And The Violence Against GOP Lawmakers; Senator Dianne Feinstein Wants To Now Open Up An Eighth Investigation On Justice Kavanaugh's Sexual Assault Investigation If Democrats Retake Control Of The Senate Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 17, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7492 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Tammy Bruce, Newt Gingrich, Laura Ingraham Guests: Martha McSally, Josh Hawley, David Limbaugh, Lindsey Graham Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Welcome to HANNITY. Wow, busy news night. Glad you are with us. Twenty days to go until the midterm elections. As a matter of fact, look at it this way. Three weeks from tonight, we will be talking about the results. That's how close we are. Democratic candidates, they're running on nothing but fear and extreme hatred for President Trump. There is no plan to strengthen the country, grow the economy, protect the American people. They are just fueled by this rage from their humiliating loss in 2016. And Democrats have vilified all political differences. No moderates left. Party leaders have called for incivility. They have pushed for confrontation on the streets. They have encouraged an angry mob to get in the faces of their political opponents and kick them. Now, the climate in this country is downright scary. Violent protests in some of our major cities. Two local GOP candidates now assaulted in Minnesota. A Democratic operative arrested for battery against a Republican campaign manager. Lindsey Graham, who's going to join us in a moment, he actually got spat on. And coming up, we're going to break down all of this hysteria and tonight, we will detail specifically, you vote for a Democratic House member, well, you're voting for Nancy Pelosi. We'll tell you her plan if she gets back the gavel. We will expose the far left wing candidates that want your crumbs back. They want your money. Also, Republican Senate hopefuls Josh Hawley, Missouri, Martha about the election. A brand-new breaking report, huge news from John Solomon. Robert Mueller, Jeff Sessions, I hope you're watching. Buckle up, time for a jam-packed edition of our opening monologue. (MUSIC) McSally, war hero, will join us tonight. They will talk HANNITY: All right. Devoid of any ideas to help improve the country, the left in America completely humiliated after 2016, they are now desperate. Every two and four years, you've heard me say this often, we've become accustomed to their playbook. Republicans, racist, sexist, you know the whole list, et cetera. But over the past 21 months, we've seen something even worse than what we usually see, name-calling, identity politics, that just wasn't enough. Instead, we watched the left for two years now vilify this president, any conservative, any Republican. Now calling on their supporters to literally create crowds, confront so-called evil opponents that happen to just disagree with them. Hillary Clinton said, you can't be civil with a Republican Party member that wants to destroy American values. And there's Maxine Waters, one of the new leaders of the Democratic Party, urging her supporters, create crowds, go after Republicans, where they eat, and grocery stores, department stores, gas stations. Cory Booker urging voters, get up in the faces of people in Congress and the cabinet. Eric Holder, Republicans go low, we kick `em. This kind of rhetoric started from the very moment Donald Trump, frankly, came down the escalator, but certainly when he was inaugurated. In fact, on January 31st, right after the president is inaugurated, 2017, failed vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine, just to remind you, he had this to say about what Democrats need to do in order to reclaim their power. They were looking for it on day one. Watch this. All right. Apparently, we lost that tape. On this program, we are saying this better stop. This is what I'm saying to everybody. This better stop before people, our fellow citizens, some of our elected politicians are severely injured or even killed. In this country, differences should be settled at the ballot o box, not on the streets, not with a violent mob, not with fists or intimidation. Not with riots in major cities. And as you can see, this is not the approach Democrats are taking. And while words are just words, I understand, I hold people accountable for their own actions, but some people are inspired by these words, sadly. Are we really surprised by what we have been witnessing, what we have all been seeing? Sarah Sanders, her family, kids, run out of a restaurant. Secretary Nielsen, same thing. Senator Ted Cruz, his wife, Heidi, run out of a restaurant. The Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi violently confronted just trying to go watch a movie. Republicans shouted down all over D.C. and reports tonight in Minnesota, two local Republican candidates were assaulted by far-left individuals. In one case while talking to constituents, state representative candidate Shane Mekeland was literally sucker punched. Not only did he have a serious concussion, he will have a four to six-week minimum recovery. He says this is not what he signed up for. No kidding. A few days earlier, while campaigning door-to-door, state representative, Minnesota, Sarah Anderson, she was punched by a person claiming to be an anarchist. And meanwhile, in Nevada, a Democratic operative arrested after violently assaulting GOP campaign manager Kristin Davidson after a political event in Vegas. Nevada's attorney general, now the Republican gubernatorial candidate, called this a new low for politics in Nevada. And last night, Senator Lindsey Graham, who will join us in a moment, he talked about how he was actually spat at during the anti-Kavanaugh protests. Listen, a threatening package was sent to Susan Collins' home with contents they claimed to be ricin, a poison that can kill people. Her staff receiving thousands of coat hangers, other horrible threats via phone. Make no mistakes: what we are seeing here is the left unhinged in America and they have been unhinged the day that Donald Trump announced, certainly the day he won, and the day he was inaugurated and it has not stopped. They are hoping that this vitriol, this hatred where the even get rid of due process and the presumption of innocence, they are hoping this is what carries them into November. And if Democrats take the House, I've been telling you, and it's true, impeachment will be on the table. They just keep begging Maxine Waters, just keep it a secret. Just like the Center for American Progress says, don't talk about, ever, immigration. It's a losing issue. Just pretend you're somebody you're not. How does that help the American people? What does that do to create jobs? How does that make us more prosperous? How does that make us and our families more safe and secure? Investigations into this administration, if Nancy Pelosi wins, Chuck Schumer wins, it will be a daily subversion. Obamacare, that will be the law of the land. How is that working out? Keep your doctor, plan, and pay less. Remember the crumbs they were so upset about? Your tax decrease, your paycheck -- well, your paycheck will get smaller. And of course they want to abolish ICE, forget about the border wall but they just don't want to tell you. But you don't have to take my word for it, just listen to Nancy Pelosi. She's measuring the drapes to her brand-new office. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), MINORITY LEADER: It's an interesting dynamic when you have the gavel. It just makes all the difference in the world and the leverage you have in your conversation. REPORTER: I'm wondering what you would be willing to trade if you gave Trump the wall? PELOSI: Nothing. In my view, it's immoral, expensive, ineffective, and it's not something that people do between countries. But in any event, it happens to be like a manhood issue for the president and we're not interested in that. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Those are her plans. By the way, we found that Tim Kaine tape we were talking about. This is right after Trump won. Listen to what he thinks you ought to do, what he wants the Democrats to do. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. TIM KAINE (D), VIRGINIA: The way we get outside the bubble is we take advantage of this tremendous public outcry against the administration. What we've got to do is fight in Congress, fight in the courts, fight in the streets, fight online, fight at the ballot box. And now, there's the momentum to be able to do this and we are not afraid of the popular outcry. We are energized by it and that's going to help us do our job and do it better. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Ah, OK. Nancy Pelosi, by the way, she might want to keep her big plans in check because the big blue wave she's predicting, nobody that tells you they know what's going to happen on election night, none of them know what they're talking about. You know why? Because you, we, the people, we get a say in this. According to a new study from NBC News, Democratic, GOP voter registration, guess what? They are at the exact same level they've been as past election cycles. Now, this means there has been no huge increase in Democratic voters nationwide, and the race for the Senate, Republicans do have good momentum and for good reason. Senator Dianne Feinstein, whose dirty political tricks surrounding the Kavanaugh nomination shocked many Americans, no due process, no presumption of innocence at all, believing any and all allegations with no corroboration -- oh, she announced she is planning to continue her war on Justice Kavanaugh if Democrats take back the Senate. She actually wants his sexual misconduct investigation reopened. This, after seven FBI investigations, including the one she wanted, found zero evidence to support any of the claims against the Supreme Court justice. Meanwhile, tonight in Florida, we are tracking two key races, including a very tight gubernatorial race between far radical left Democratic candidate Andrew Gillum and Republican Freedom Caucus member Ron DeSantis. Gillum is calling for -- get this -- a 40 percent tax increase for Florida business. If you are in Florida, let me tell you what that would do. It will wreck your economy. It will destroy any incentive for anybody to build a business in Florida. Forty percent? And Gillum also has been called one of the most anti-law enforcement candidates in history. The choice in Florida, pay attention, is clear. You have far left socialism, Ron DeSantis. You have a choice in the Senate in Florida. One of the most capable, honest, decent, hardworking trustworthy governors who has been successful in the entire country. Rick Scott running against confirmed far left, out of touch, Chuck Schumer incumbent Bill Nelson. Florida, wake up, you've got to get out and vote, to support Rick Scott, Ron DeSantis. Or guess what? Your state will become like this state, New York. Ten percent state income tax or California, 13.5 percent state income tax. In Florida, you have zero state income tax. You might want to keep it that way. In just moments, we're going to have to Republican candidates. Martha McSally in Arizona. Josh Hawley, Missouri. Hawley running against Democratic incumbent Claire McCaskill. This week, projectveritas.com exposing McCaskill for just how far left her views are in a series of undercover videos including, of course, her extreme views on gun control, her campaigns plan to lie to the good people of Missouri. No, no, we're not going to really do this but we just have to act this way -- and present McCaskill as a moderate, which she is not. She says she's just like Barack Obama. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you would be on board with the bump stocks and -- high capacity mags? SEN. CLAIRE MCCASKILL (D), MISSOURI: Of course. Of course. I've voted for most of those things before. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For a ban? MCCASKILL: Oh, yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But she doesn't openly go out and support groups like "Mom's Demand Action" or just like other groups that are related to that, because that could hurt, like her ability to get elected. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're saying that you think she's more progressive than she lets on? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's a lot more open-minded to like alternative routes to things? You can't be open about that. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because you completely isolate moderate Republicans. Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's like we have to lie to get elected. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Essentially. Essentially. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And according to a new ad, it looks like McCaskill was given up on gaining any support in some very large areas in the state of Missouri because her views are too liberal. She knows she's out of touch. She doesn't care apparently. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AD ANNOUNCER: Claire McCaskill, caught on tape. MCCASKILL: If we do our job in St. Louis County, you know, I can give up a few votes in the Bootheel. AD ANNOUNCER: Listen again. MCCASKILL: I can give up a few votes in the Bootheel. ANNOUNCER: No wonder Claire McCaskill votes against your gun rights, against agriculture, and against conservative judges like Brett Kavanaugh. MCCASKILL: I can give up a few votes in the Bootheel. AD ANNOUNCER: Claire McCaskill has given up on you. JOSH HAWLEY (R), MISSOURI SENATORIAL CANDIDATE: I'm Josh Hawley and I approve this message. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I just want the city, I don't care about the rest of the state. I just want the big population center. Now, tonight, without any evidence, McCaskill is claiming that the Hawley campaign coordinated with Project Veritas, an allegation that Project Veritas and its founder James O'Keefe have told me numerous times is not true. Hawley has called it absurd and Josh Hawley will be here tonight to talk about the phony, the fake, the fraud, somebody lying to get elected, and that would be Claire McCaskill. Meanwhile, in Tennessee, Democratic candidate Phil Bredesen. He's also been exposed for his far left deception in Tennessee. Staffers all caught on tape on camera telling the truth about -- we are just saying that, we don't really mean it, we're just saying that to get votes, that's all, although their boss publicly claimed support for Judge Kavanaugh, his staffers undercover video, Project Veritas, he's caught saying the Democratic candidate would never, ever support Trump's pick for the Supreme Court after the election. Let's just say whatever we need to say to win. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wasn't really, right? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Vote for Kavanaugh? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think so. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was so confused, because I just can't believe that he would actually vote yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He wouldn't, but he said he would. I don't know if that makes it worse or better. No, it makes it better, but still -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But what's -- like I don't understand what's the game by saying yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Moderate Republicans. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He wouldn't. He just said he would. It's all a lie. Arizona, Martha McSally, a war hero, taking on Kyrsten Sinema. This is amazing. A woman with a pretty bizarre and despicable past. Actually in 2010, Sinema called Arizona the state she wants votes the meth lab of democracy. Really? Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. KYRSTEN SINEMA (D), ARIZONA: States are the laboratory of democracy. And then, my state, Arizona, is clearly the meth lab of democracy. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Pay attention, Arizona. Do you think that's bad? It gets worse. Caught on camera multiple times, calling you, the voters, the people of Arizona, you are all crazy. She's not. You're crazy. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SINEMA: I want to talk about some of the things I think you can do to stop your state from becoming Arizona. You know, my state -- I was born and raised in Arizona, born and raised in Tucson, near the border. And when we grew up I remember in first grade we learned a song about Arizona, because Arizona is a state of the five C's. So, cattle, copper, citrus, cotton, and climates. And those of the five things that our state made its money on. I would add a sixth C, called crazy. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All of you in Arizona, you're all crazy. Sinema making fun of her own state for being famous, but only in a Lindsay Lohan kind of way. I'm sure she meant it as a compliment, though. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SINEMA: But, you know, so all around the world, people know what's happening in Arizona and not in a good way. We're not famous like in a good way. We're kind of like in a Lindsay Lohan kind of famous way. Not good. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And it gets worse and it gets more serious. Sinema suggesting it was okay after 9/11 in 2003 for Americans to go fight for the Taliban and she also promoted events at Arizona State University featuring a radical far left lawyer. You know the one that represented the blind sheikh, same lawyer who was imprisoned for helping the blind sheikh get messages to his extremist followers. And, by the way, Sinema organizing, this is almost too good to be true, an antiwar rally inviting self-described witches. You can't make it up. And this week during the debate, McSally confronted her radical opponent. Watch this. Good moment. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MARTHA MCSALLY (R), ARIZONA: While we were in harm's way, she was protesting our troops in a pink tutu. And I'll tell you what, if these are not just qualifying enough, Kyrsten, what came out last week, CNN reported that in 2003, while she was on the radio, you said it was okay for Americans to join the Taliban to fight against us. You said you had no problem with that. MODERATOR: All right. We are running out of time, but we have to respond to that, please? MCSALLY: Kyrsten, I want to ask right now whether you're going to apologize to the veterans and me for saying it's okay to commit treason, Kyrsten. MODERATOR: Please? We are running out of time, so we got to get a response. MCSALLY: Well, we need a response because she owes us an apology. MODERATOR: Please? SINEMA: Well, Martha has chosen to run a campaign like the one you're seeing right now, where she's engaging in ridiculous attacks and smearing my campaign and she's just trying to cut, cut, cut and not share the full picture. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: She was the war hero, the other one said what she said. McSally will be here in a minute. Here's the bottom line. Any votes for any House Democrat, let me just tell you, you're voting for Pelosi, impeachment, higher taxes, open borders, and Obamacare. If you vote for any Democrat in the Senate, you're voting for Chuck Schumer and the same agenda, and by the way, add to that, no conservative Supreme Court justices. We are going to be discussing the results three weeks from tonight. You have the power to shock the world. Just imagine how fun it would be on election night to see the media lose it again. It would be awesome. You have the power, shock the world. We will have more on this in a moment. First, we have to cover one abuse of power story breaking just minutes ago. John Solomon, new report detailing, get this, how high-ranking members of the FBI and DOJ, get this, accepting hundreds of trips from special interest groups and according to Solomon, guess who? Mueller's deputy, his pit bull Andrew Weissmann, the top of offender. All right. We'll get back to that in the days and weeks ahead. First, the story, our main story, our top story, the midterm elections, we have Missouri Senate candidate Josh Hawley, Arizona Senate candidate Martha McSally. Martha, you were serving after 9/11, correct? MCSALLY: Yes, I was, Sean. I was actually deployed on 9/11 and was part of the team to ramp up for the initial air campaign in Afghanistan. And later, I commanded a ten squadron getting shot at by the Taliban in Afghanistan and making sure that we were taking them out as they were trying to kill our troops. This is personal. HANNITY: Maybe it's OK, she can call Arizonans crazy and the meth capital and all of that, but it gets serious. It's OK to join the Taliban? Seriously? She said that. How is that a smear if you are just asking for an apology for what she did and said? MCSALLY: I simply asked for an apology. She could have said I didn't I mean it, I don't know what I was thinking, but when you as an American are saying it's okay for Americans to go fight for the Taliban against our troops, when we were over in Afghanistan, we would line up on the taxiway and we would have American troops ho perished in the line of duty with the flag draping their coffin, coming by as they were loaded onto the cargo planes and we would all line up silently and salute them because they paid the ultimate sacrifice and were killed by the Taliban and their allies. And somehow she thinks this is either funny or not important. I mean, this is unbelievable that she thinks it's okay for Americans to commit treason. In any other moment, this should be disqualifying and she would withdraw, but the Arizona media mostly is ignoring it or making excuses for her again. HANNITY: By the way, thank you for your brave, courageous service. Thank you for that. But then it gets even worse. She invited this far left radical lawyer, who represented the blind sheik. My buddy Andy McCarthy, a guest on this program, he successfully prosecuted that case. The same lawyer, wasn't she in prison for helping get messages from the blind sheik to others at the time? MCSALLY: Yes. HANNITY: Wasn't there an investigation into that? She invited that person, Arizona state? MCSALLY: Yes. She invited her to Arizona State University, was making excuses, and this person, from all the evidence, McCarthy is key on this, was aiding and abetting the blind sheik. And again, she's making excuses for it. HANNITY: Unbelievable. MCSALLY: And no one in Arizona, unless they are watching your show, which there are a lot of people, don't get me wrong. But other people, the mainstream media, is just completely ignoring all of this stuff. They are pretending that of this happened. HANNITY: Thank goodness we have one network, or at least have my voice because otherwise you would never hear about it. MCSALLY: Amen, Sean. HANNITY: Josh, welcome to you. I look at that tape and I look at the campaign ad you made, and I see a candidate that brags about being anti- Second Amendment and brags about lying to the people of Missouri and saying I don't care about these people in my state and I vote just like Obama and believe what he does. HAWLEY: You know, you see a candidate there, Sean, who was totally out of touch with the people of the state, someone who has given up on large portions of the state and really has given up on representing the state. And that's the problem with Senator McCaskill. She does not represent the people of Missouri. She's become a party line politician and that's why we are going to replace her in November. HANNITY: What's the reaction to the fact that she has exposed purposely lying to the people that she's asking to vote for them? I got to imagine people of in Missouri -- I'd be angry. I don't like to be lied to. My kids get in more trouble if they lie to me than whatever it is that they did. HAWLEY: Yes, exactly. Well -- and people are having just that reaction. They are -- as I travel around the state, people cannot believe that she has tried to portray herself as a moderate when in fact she votes with Chuck Schumer 90 percent of the time, when in fact, she's for taking away firearms from law-abiding citizens, when in fact she is against pro- Constitution judges. And this Brett Kavanaugh smear, that Claire McCaskill was part and parcel, she was along for the whole ride. She wouldn't stand up for her party. People are tired of this. They want somebody who's going to do what they say they will do. HANNITY: Listen, I know it's difficult in these off-year elections, both of you would represent a refreshing change and help the president's successful agenda. Martha McSally, great to meet you, see you. Josh, best of luck to you. I hope people are paying attention. These are important races. When we come back, David Limbaugh, Tammy Bruce, Newt Gingrich, busy breaking news night, we are glad you're with us. Thanks for choosing FOX. Thanks for watching "Hannity". We appreciate it. HANNITY: All right. Only 20 days left and we've got a lot to get to tonight. Here with reaction, FOX News contributor Tammy Bruce, the author of -- and I've read this book now cover to cover. First thing I know I need to be a better Christian. The second is I learned a lot. "Jesus is Risen," now a "New York Times" bestseller two weeks in a row. David Limbaugh, like everybody on the show, every lawyer, they've done work for me, I must've done a lot of bad things but that's not always the case. He's done all my contracts. Congrats on the book two weeks in a row, David. Awesome. DAVID LIMBAUGH, AUTHOR, "JESUS IS RISEN": Thank you, thank you. HANNITY: You know, I watched your powerful voice, Tammy, in this Kavanaugh hearing and I told you privately, I'm going to go and say it publicly, you've always been amazing. We've been friends for a long time. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. HANNITY: You were one of the people that defined this. You were once the head of NOW, the National Organization for Women, people forget. BRUCE: Right. HANNITY: It was so wrong to abandon due process and presumption of innocence. BRUCE: Right. And I think that what our experience, what my generation's experience has been through the '80s and '90s was, in fact, to give women the right to be able to engage with the system, that we would be treated like everyone else. We weren't marching around saying, please, treat us like a baby. Please, treat us like we don't know what we're doing. And yet now, that's what's happening. And so, it takes really a culmination of experience to see the threat of what is now unfolding. There's a lot of young people who think this is just the way it is and it's not. And I think that this is where I think us coming together, having these conversations and, look, I've always been working to make up, frankly, for what I've been doing in the past, having been -- I don't want people -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You don't need to apologize. The one thing -- I'm not a Republican, I'm a registered conservative in New York. Republicans screw everything up. They actually treated it with the seriousness the topic deserved. BRUCE: Yes. HANNITY: The seriousness of the allegation. They handled it with the utmost care and they did it right, finally. BRUCE: But the only difference was President Trump. They had a leader who has a spine and who has the same kind of commitment and understanding as someone not from politics, about what will the future be? What our legacy has got to be that and as a woman in this country, as someone who has gone through a lot of things, like a lot of American women have, we are not going to let this fail because we turned away at a wrong time. This is our time. You know, the '80s were important and so are the 90s, but this is our time to secure. HANNITY: You're dating us, that's not good. But let me go to David. BRUCE: But I think all Americans recognize what was happening in those decades. HANNITY: David, between that and what we have seen, Hillary's rhetoric, Eric Holder's rhetoric, Tim Kaine's rhetoric and then you see all these women and even Ted Cruz and his wife, you know, this create a crowd, follow them, get on their face, tell them they are not wanted anywhere anymore. Wow. I mean, we are still Americans I thought. LIMBAUGH: Yes, you know, I think the Democrats are desperate. Obama's policy failed when they had power. Trump policies are succeeding, plus as Tammy said, he's leading. He's fighting back and trying to stand up for what we believe in. The Democrats are getting more desperate, which gives us a taste of what they are going to be like if they regain power. That they have no solutions so they resort to identity politics. They propose things like packing the court, suspending due process, impeachment when it's unwarranted, judicial activism, abolishing Electoral College. The 25th amendment, open borders. They can't win fighting fair. So, they just laid to people through the democrats so they cheat. HANNITY: Look at, don't talk about immigration. That's John Podesta's group. Don't mention impeach 45, as Maxine Waters, just keep it quiet. We are not going to tell you who we are, we are going to lie to you so you elect us and then we'll show you our agenda. LIMBAUGH: Yes. Doesn't it feel good that we finally have somebody that we can rally around and fight back and we are no longer spineless and lacking a backbone? HANNITY: Amazing. Last word, Tammy. BRUCE: Yes. Let me say that what we saw with the Kavanaugh hearing when they say we want to be a check and balance on President Trump, that is what they are talking about. That is actually political assassination. That's what we will have for years if we hand that over. LIMBAUGH: That's right. BRUCE: So, there's no guesswork. We don't have to talk about it or describe it, we can point to that hearing and you saw the behavior of those individuals. HANNITY: We can call that a preview coming attraction-- (CROSSTALK) BRUCE: That is correct. HANNITY: -- if you don't vote in 20 days. LIMBAUGH: Exactly. BRUCE: Bad for every American. HANNITY: All right. Thank you both. David, two weeks on that New York Times. Congratulations. Great to see you, too. LIMBAUGH: Thanks. HANNITY: By the way, your brother will be here for the full hour tomorrow. Full disclosure, Rush is David's -- all right, you figured it out. Newt Gingrich, he has important advice on the crucial midterm elections. Lindsey Graham, he was actually spot on. He'll tell us his story coming out. HANNITY: All right. Here with more reaction to all of tonight's breaking news, author of the New York Times bestseller, "Trump's America: The Truth About Our Nation's Great Comeback," former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. You know, the list is pretty amazing. It really is awesome. Here's a question, are we better off as a country than we were just two short years ago with four million new jobs, eight million fewer Americans in poverty on food stamps. Let's see, a path to energy independence, three and a half billion dollars on a border wall. North Korea, Iran. I don't know. I think on security, economic issues, records in 14 states, record low unemployment, African- Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Asian-Americans, women in the workforce, I think we're better off, but what do you think? NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER UNITED STATES SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Well, I think we are better off but I don't think that's what this election is about. This election is a life-and-death struggle with a left-wing movement which wants to radicalize America. You know, you are happy that there are more people at work. That took people off of food stamps. It meant there were no longer dependent on government so if you are a left-wing Democrat that's actually bad, not good. I know it's hard to believe but I have a prediction for you. Sometimes politicians and their consultants and everybody does all this planning and then history just pick things up and changes everything. I think two words are going to define the night of the 2018 election in the next three weeks. One is Kavanaugh and the other is caravan. And the combination of anger over how the left smeared, engaged in character assassination, live, used bullying tactics with Judge Kavanaugh is going to be one part of this. And the degree to which the left is eager to have 3,000 people in a caravan cross the American border, break American law, recognizing that if that happens, the next caravan will be even bigger and the caravan after that will be even bigger. And I think the American people are going to reject both the way they treated Kavanaugh and the way they are dealing with the border, and I think those will end up being the reasons the Republicans keep the House and dramatically increase the number of senators they have. HANNITY: Mr. Speaker, elections are usually about peace and prosperity. And I'm looking at the economy, every measure we are doing better. This is what I hear from the Democrats. Impeachment, but don't say it. Open borders, but don't say it. They want their crumbs back, they want Obamacare and they want endless investigations into Trump. I don't hear one thing that they are running on that would benefit the American people. Obamacare? A disaster. GINGRICH: Well, I mean, if you look at their proposals for government run health care, which would be impossible to pay for, would bankrupt the system, crush the entire health care delivery system and destroy Medicare, you look at all those things, you have to wonder what are these people thinking? And yet, Democrat after Democrat has signed up for a program which I think absolutely would collapse Medicare and absolutely would eliminate all of the employer-based insurance systems, which is what Bernie Sanders says he wants to do. He wants to force you and me and everyone else into a single government system that he gets to define. HANNITY: Let me ask you this. I look at and I'm very hopeful. I think there's a really good shot -- Rick Scott, a great governor. I think -- I think he will win the Senate. I really feel confident in the people of Florida. I really believe that Josh Hawley will win, who we just had on for Missouri as Claire McCaskill has been exposed and the same with Marsha Blackburn after Bredesen has been exposed. And I'm hoping Dean Heller, the latest polls have him up. He's always in a tough race in Nevada and I think Jon Tester is in trouble in Montana. Heidi Heitkamp is now in double digits, as she should be in North Dakota, Joe Donnelly in Indiana. I think we can win every one of those races. The only thing that worries me tonight, I don't know about the House. Don't have a big margin there. GINGRICH: Well, let me add to your happiness. I think we have a real shot in Minnesota. I think we have a real shot in New Jersey. So, the Senate could become -- if you remember in 1980 when I was working with the Reagan team, we ended up picking up 12 Senate seats, one control of the Senate, nobody expected. And we picked up 12 Senate seats in one night. So, this could become a big blowout. The House is a little bit of trouble but I think what Kevin McCarthy has done in introducing a bill to gain control of the southern border and I would urge Kevin to challenge Nancy Pelosi to a national debate. Let her defend the total failure to control the American border, to protect American sovereignty, to draw a line in the sand and say no more, to welcome caravans and all sorts of deliberate effort to undermine the American system. And let Kevin explain the bill he's got that he wants to bring up in December that controls the southern border. I think if the choice is that clear, if over here you've got sanctuary cities, MS-13, fentanyl, opioid deaths, all the different things the Democrats seem to accept, and over here you have a party dedicated to protecting you, protecting your family, protecting your neighborhood, I think we'll do just fine on election night. HANNITY: You vote for any Democrat in the House you are voting for Pelosi. Vote for any Democratic senator, you are voting for Schumer. GINGRICH: That's right. HANNITY: It's that simple. Mr. Speaker very great analysis tonight, right on the money, thanks for being with us. All right. When we come back, this shouldn't surprise you. Dianne Feinstein says she wants to actually reopen the sexual misconduct allegation, the Brett Kavanaugh if Democrats win back the Senate in 20 days. Lindsey Graham, who was also spat on, he will weigh in. Laura Ingraham coming up, a lot more news to get to, stay with us. HANNITY: All right. As if we need more motivation to get out and vote in the midterms. Get this. Dianne Feinstein she wants to now open up an eighth investigation, reopen a sexual assault investigation into Brett Kavanaugh if the Democrats retake the Senate. You got to be kidding me. Here with reaction t all of this, South Carolina Senator, Lindsey Graham. Senator, good to see you. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, (R) SOUTH CAROLINA: Thank you. HANNITY: Another investigation? There was no cooperation in the first one. None. GRAHAM: Well, it's not funny, but in a way, it is. Apparently, one kick of the meal was not enough for Senator Feinstein, who I like very much. But here's what I want every Democratic every candidate for the Senate to be asked tomorrow. Do you agree with Dianne Feinstein? If Democrats take control of the Senate, are you for reopening the Kavanaugh investigation? Are you for more humiliation, degrading treatment of this fine man, are you for continuing this debacle? Do you agree with Dianne Feinstein? If you get in charge of the Senate Democrats you are going to go after Kavanaugh again. I think every voter in all these Trump states that have Democratic senators needs to ask that question, are you with Dianne or not? HANNITY: We've been talking a lot about Hillary comments, kick him, Eric Holder. You know, we have two -- we now have two politicians, Republicans in Minnesota have been assaulted and punched. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: One guy severely injured, a woman punched. Maxine Waters, create a crowd. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: You know, follow them into grocery stores, gas stations. Department stores. They are not wanted anywhere anymore. Like she wants -- she's going to be a leader if they take back the House? GRAHAM: Well, I think this is what happens. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And you were spat at by the way. GRAHAM: Yes. I'll tell you about that. This is what happens when you can't win at the ballot box. You take those of us who did win and you try to intimidate us into bending to your will. I've never had police security before, Capitol Hill police protect me ever before until the Kavanaugh hearings. Had a guy who would not let the elevator close. I had to go to my office and somebody on the elevator pushed him out. I don't know what I would have done. I had a bunch of people around me filming me, yelling at me, all over my jacket. It was pretty bad and I can only imagine what my other colleagues went through. So, this is on the ballot. What you want America to look like? Once the election is over do you want those who lost to try to physically assault those who won, or do you want to have an election once it's over we try to work together and govern the country? HANNITY: Isn't that what it should be about? At the end of the day-- (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: I hope so. HANNITY: -- I'm willing to listen to any Democrat, tell me what you're going to do to create jobs. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: You know, remember, I've been 10 years working in restaurants starting as a dishwasher. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: Ten years in construction starting as a house painter and do, you know, roofing following three stories, that's my background. You grew up in a bar. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: And you had the same kind of background. I just -- we now have four million new jobs, 400,000 manufacturing jobs, better trade deals-- GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: -- less regulation, a path to energy independence, the biggest tax cut in history. GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: We're securing the border, North Korea. You know, I'm thinking, wow. This is a -- there's a lot at stake here. GRAHAM: Yes. You know, Israel is safer, ISIS is being destroyed. You know, President Trump asked the question in 2016, what do you have to lose? And most people said not much. They saw no hope with Hillary Clinton. Let me tell you, in 2018 if the Democrats take over you've got a lot to lose. And I want every Democrat who is running for the Senate to answer the question. Do you agree with Dianne Feinstein that we should reopen the Kavanaugh investigation if Democrats take over? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Don't they want to impeach? They want to impeach the guy. GRAHAM: House members need to be asked that. If you're running for the House is a Democrat, do you agree with the idea that the first thing you should do is impeach Kavanaugh? These answers tell you a lot about the person running. So, they need to -- are you with Dianne or not. Are you with the American people? The American people are pleased that we got a good conservative justice, they are ready to move on. HANNITY: There was only one Democrat that was willing to let due process-- (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: Good point. HANNITY: -- the presumption of innocence. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: Only one. Not one of them. GRAHAM: And Joe listen to West Virginia and I want to see who these other Democrats are listening to. Clearly, they didn't listen to the people of their states. But if I am in charge as a Republican, Senator Grassley did a wonderful job but I may be the chairman if he moves to finance. I promise you this, we are going to investigate who betrayed Dr. Ford. I'm going to find out why her lawyers did not tell her that the committee would have gone to California to interview her in private so she didn't have to go through this. That's what I'm going to investigate. HANNITY: Senator, I think you're one of your finest moments in your career standing up for truth. Standing up for honesty and fundamental core American values. And we appreciate that you did that. Thank you. GRAHAM: Thank you. HANNITY: All right. When we come back, actually Ingraham, you know, she's on after the show, Laura Ingraham joins us as a guest next. And Rush Limbaugh for the full hour tomorrow. We got a lot coming up, straight ahead. HANNITY: Quick programming note, don't forget tune in tomorrow night, 9 p.m. Eastern, yes, the full hour, Rush Limbaugh, his take, 19 days away from a very important election. First, you know what, we wanted to bring in a lot of you comment about when we toss to each other and she always takes cheap shots at me. This is terrible. I mean, feel like a victim. But our good friend, Laura Ingraham, this is now out in paperback, huge bestselling book. "Busting the Barricades: What I Saw at the Populist Revolt." You know, you were there, I was there, Newt was there, there are a lot of our so-called conservative friends that hated us. And we called them never- Trumper, they're never going to vote for Trump. And I think Ben Sasse is one example. And honestly, all the success we had for two years, if we didn't win, think of what would have happened. And you were you there from the get-go, you fought hard every step of the way, you didn't waiver and I appreciate that about you. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, do you remember the night before or the day before the election. Maybe the day of, I can't remember -- Monday night, it was Monday night, I was on your show. And we were like, we just went all-in, OK, it's going to be great, we're going to win and I think afterwards, it was like-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I did a 30-minute standing monologue. INGRAHAM: Yes. It was like ripped it up. HANNITY: Yes. INGRAHAM: And afterwards, I think we looked at each other and said we're going to have to move basically, if this doesn't work out. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: No, I was convinced. INGRAHAM: What we do is what's going to -- what we knew it was going to work out. But we're just joking because there weren't many of us. HANNITY: We really didn't know. I mean, this is the thing. And we don't know what's going to happen 20 days from now. But we knew what was better for the country. INGRAHAM: Yes. That's a good point. Right. HANNITY: And I've known Trump for almost 25 years. I know we played the game in New York, as a New York businessman, to keep workers working, and building is going up which is a great thing, and sometimes you got to play the game. But he kept every promise, and he keeps checking them off. And the only thing I hear, maybe they don't like his style. He tweets, big deal. INGRAHAM: I don't think most people care at all about that. They obsess on the side issues. Most Americans want safety, security, prosperity. And they want a sense of general fairness in society. I don't think most people are looking for handouts. That's not the way most people. They want a basic sense of fairness. And I think a lot of people are done with the kind of identity politics, political correctness, and Trump saw this a couple of decades ago. HANNITY: He did. INGRAHAM: He saw it from China, to immigration. HANNITY: He did. INGRAHAM: He saw it all. And so, he and Pat Buchanan and a few others along the way, Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Newt Gingrich. INGRAHAM: -- they saw those blue-collar issues. HANNITY: Yes. INGRAHAM: And he has not waiver from those issues. HANNITY: I want the conservative movement to always be about the forgotten men and women. And you call it -- "What I Saw the Populist Revolt." By the way, this is Laura's new book right here. She didn't autograph it or nothing. I have to go buy it. She didn't give me a free copy. INGRAHAM: No, I got you. I have a special copy for you. Yes. HANNITY: But let's be the party -- let's be the people that stand up for the men and women that make this country great every day, that, to all of the producing, obey the laws, pay the taxes. Good people. They deserve a nice house, safe neighborhood, nice car, vacation, take their kids to Disney, and be able to go out and eat and save for retirement. That's -- that's the dream. Load-Date: October 18, 2018 End of Document The Democrats And Their Strategy Of Using Race To Get The Voters To Vote And Their Imaginings Of Taking Over The House Of Representatives With No Clear Plan How To Maneuver The Economy And Help The American People; President Trump Gives Interview To "60 Minutes"; Louis Farrakhan's Anti- Semitic Comments Examined; Bob Menendez's Relationship With Doctor Convicted Of Fraud Assessed Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 17, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7523 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Michelle Malkin, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Sean Duffy, Dana Grayson, Andy McCarthy, Herman Cain, Richard Goodstein, Lee Zeldin, Dan Bongino Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Let us be the people that stand up for the men and women that make this country great every day, that to all of the producing, obey the laws, pay the taxes, good people, they deserve a nice house, safe neighborhood, nice car, vacation, take their kids to Disney and be able to go out to eat and save for retirement. That's the dream. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: I think and part of the dream, Sean, isn't chaos. They don't want chaos in the streets. They don't want people at each others throats or accosted in a restaurant. People don't like that. HANNITY: It's horrible. INGRAHAM: They're very compassionate and welcoming. We have people rushing the border. HANNITY: Why are they attacking women in restaurants? What is this new obsession? This woman got punched in Minnesota. INGRAHAM: Oh yes, I saw that. But they're pro women. We're supposed to believe, Sean, that they have a monopoly on compassion, tolerance, real diversity, pro-women. But when you pick -- when you really dissect those issues, on most of those issues, their claims fall short. So, I just -- I'm very -- I'm blessed to not only be here at Fox, but you and I have been friends for about 20 years now, a long time. HANNITY: Why do you have to say that? I don't want people to believe that we like each other. I want people to think we hate each other. INGRAHAM: It's a long time. No, we're like brother and sister. HANNITY: By the way, this book is great -- INGRAHAM: Thank you, Sean. HANNITY: -- but you know something, I love that the American people could get in the prosperity they deserve, promises finally kept. I hope we continue it in 19 days. You were there from the beginning and it was proud. There weren't a lot of us, there were not. INGRAHAM: No, and what's good is it's great to be in the trenches with you, Hannity, any time. HANNITY: Great. Laura Ingraham takes over. Let not your heart be troubled, "THE INGRAHAM ANGLE" starts right now, two minutes late. INGRAHAM: Could you do a voiceover? I actually want you to voice that over for me and we'll just -- we'll play that every night instead of, you know, the graphics. I just want you to do a real (inaudible) Hannity voice. HANNITY: Just do your voice. Don't show that hideous face that's been on T.V. for 23 years. We just want your voice. Have a great show. INGRAHAM: Oh, Hannity, great show tonight. Thanks so much. I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington, and ahead tonight, looking to exploit divisions in this country, yet another example tonight of how the left is using race to try desperately to drive voters to the polls, in less now than three weeks. Herman Cain is to here to react, you don't want to miss it. He's in studio. It's going to be fantastic. Plus, why is this man still being given a platform? Well, Dan Bongino will react to the latest anti-Semitic slur from the Nation of Isalm founder Louis Farrakhan, and why Twitter is allowing him to still use its platform. Plus, Raymond Arroyo for "Seen and Unseen", he breaks down the tape from Trump's "60 Minutes" interview and will tell us specifically why the GOP should be paying close attention. But first, meet the chairman, that's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. INGRAHAM: I had a horrible dream last night. One of those, you know, wake up in a cold sweat types. The calendar read Wednesday November 7th and the Democrats had gained control of the House of Representatives. And the first horrible vision I had, it's kind of blurry, but it is Maxine Waters and she was talking about Justice Kavanaugh. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: It was heartbreaking, but I think women are not going to recede. Women are going to continue to confront what took place in that confirmation and him, and he won't rest easy in his job. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What was on to you on that (inaudible) he won't rest easy? Well, it sounds like an implicit threat to me or does she just mean impeachment or that the justice is going to be confronted at his home and public life, public places? Is it some kind of dog whistle to go after Kavanaugh, similar to her earlier call to harass conservatives earlier this year? Well, soon, she may be harassing all of America. If the Democrats rest control of the House of Representatives, guess what, Auntie M could be the first woman to lead the House Financial Services Committee. Never mind that she once faced three ethics violations charges for setting up a meeting between treasury officials and a bank her hubby sat on the board of and had large investments. Well Maxine thinks she's Teflon so she just keeps on making threats. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WATERS: I'm going to keep saying that we need to impeach him. Join with me, let's impeach 45! If he thinks he can stop me from talking about impeach 45, he's got another thought coming. Impeach 45! Impeach 45! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's my ringtone by the way. I always want to avoid it. And this is another man who shares Maxine's impeachment fantasy. If the Democrats sweep to power, Jerry Nadler would become chairman of the judiciary committee. He's already sharpening his knife, or fork and knife, for Kavanaugh. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. JERRY NADLER (D), NEW YORK: We would have to investigate any credible allegations certainly of perjury and other things that haven't been properly looked into before. If he is on the Supreme Court and the Senate hasn't investigated, then the House will have to. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, with all that's facing America, all our potential, do we really want a prolonged inquisition of a sitting Supreme Court justice? The last and only time the House impeached a Supreme Court justice was in 1804. So, you're ready for Kavanaugh's circus part three? Or unless Senator Spartacus becomes a lion tamer, I'm going to pass on that three ringer. Then there is Massachusetts Congressman Richie Neal. He's poised to become the chairman of the House Ways and Means committee. And if that happens, forget the idea of making those Trump middle class tax cuts permanent. Neal was a fierce opponent of the Trump tax package and is expected to try to roll back some of those tax cuts. There goes our economic boon. And then there's Maryland's Elijah Cummings. He's in line to become chairman of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee. His mission, to investigate the Trump administration 7 ways to Sunday. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ELIJAH CUMMINGS (D), MARYLAND: I want to look at what President Trump has done, aided and abetted by the Republicans in Congress, to tear down the foundations of our democracy. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's all. Well, Cummings is already on record as saying he'd like to probe Trump's cancellation of security clearances, the 2020 census, the rights of federal employees, and the President's treatment of the press. Now, these frivolous partisan investigations would cost millions and of course achieve zippo (ph). But they would certainly serve the Democrats' goal of paralyzing the President and his administration in a blizzard of probes and inquiries. And my friends it won't end there. If Peter Defazio becomes a transportation committee chairman, he's planning to do oversight of the Trump International Hotel and the government services administration, which is the agency that gave Trump a lease for the old post office building in D.C. where the hotel is. And if money is power, Congresswoman Nita Lowey of New York is about to become the queen of the house. She could head the powerful appropriations committee in charge of spending your money. Lowey has never met a liberal social program she didn't like. And the 81-year-old Democrat would have the power to shift our spending priorities from things like defense and border security to welfare and arts programs. That will keep the economy humming. And the wall, it'll never be funded. The left is salivating over all of these possibilities in a liberal house takeover. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Adam Schiff could restart the Russia investigation. Elijah Cummings at oversight will have subpoena power, you know, Maxine Waters will be the head of the committee on financial regulation. The house ways and means committee will be able to obtain Trump's tax returns. It's going to be a completely different environment in terms of the ability to hold them accountable for all these outrages. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: To the MSNBC crowd, it's like Christmas morning. But for America, it would be the nightmare we cannot allow to become a reality. If this band of liberal misfits and radicals takes the reins of power in the House come November, it will be scarier than Halloween, only the trick will be on the American people. And the treat, they will be given away to some one else. And that's THE ANGLE. Joining me now to discuss is Wisconsin Congressman Sean Duffy, author and syndicated columnist Michelle Malkin and Dr. Dana Grayson, who ran for Congress as a Democrat in 2016. All right, Congressman Duffy, which of your Democratic colleagues are you most concerned about, if they end up getting the House? REP. SEAN DUFFY (R), WISCONSIN: I have to tell you, Laura, that was a frightening rundown of a nightmare for conservatives. So for me, the one that I'm the most afraid of is Maxine Waters on financial services -- that's my committee. And listen, it's not a C committee, this is an A committee in the house. We have banking, housing, insurance, the Federal Reserve, so, we affect your bank rates, your insurance rates. Everything we do, your 401-K, your retirement, this committee touches. And Maxine Waters, the leader of, you know, the impeach Trump movement, will chair this committee. And I think what you will see is rates will rise for banks on insurance side and across the space. So, that's number one, but number two, I would look at Adam Schiff. I think it is so important we find out what was going on inside the FBI and the DOJ. Devin Nunes has been a dog on a bone trying to figure out who the bad actors were. Devin will lose that seat. Adam Schiff will scrap that investigation and we'll never know the partisanship and politics in the lead up to 2016 and how that transitioned into the Mueller investigation that is still going after Trump today. INGRAHAM: All right, Michelle Malkin, you heard my nightmare scenario, what is your most nightmarish vision of how this could go down and what people, voters across the country, must be focusing on 20 days before this election? MICHELL MALKIN, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST: Well, I think that you should take that "Meet the Chairman" graphic and replace the caption with "Legion of Democratic Doom." These are the worst of the far left super villains. And it does leave a chill up my spine. And I think it should drive every independent and Republican voter, every fair- minded voter, out there, to the polls on November 6th. And as Congressman Duffy pointed out, the idea of Maxine Waters, one of the worst and most unethical, corrupt-o- crats (ph), a Belt Way barnacle, who has squeezed so much out of her position of power for her own professional and personal benefit. The idea of her in charge of financial services when she is someone who even came under criticism by liberal Barney Frank for her cronyism of color with the One United Bank and stimulus funny business. You talk about a culture of corruption, which of course is the name of a book I wrote in 2009. And I think, it really behooves Republicans to turn that phrase and do political jujitsu so people know exactly how the swamp is going to affect them if we let this blue wave rise. The thing is, it is not an inevitability that this blue wave is going to hit and what people need to know, Laura, is that if they do not drain the swamp and use their voices and votes, we're all going to drown in it. INGRAHAM: All right, Dana, I'm sure you have a lot to say about what we just heard from our other guest, but Adam Schiff in the "Washington Post" a few days ago said the following, "There are serious and credible allegations the Russians may possess financial leverage over the President, including perhaps the laundering of Russian money through his businesses. It would be negligent to our national security not to find out." Do you really think, Dana, that's what Americans are clamoring or in 2018, 2019? DANA GRAYSON, FORMER CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE: Well, Laura look, you said there earlier, you know, about the radicals and miscreants in government, and what Americans want is an honest government. They want to know that the leader of our country is not beholden to a hostile foreign nation such as Russia. And there is overwhelming evidence that Trump has been laundering money for the Russians for decades. INGRAHAM: Really? Overwhelming money? Overwhelming evidence? Tick off three examples of the overwhelming evidence. GRAYSON: Let's just start with Felix Sater. Felix Sater has been laundering Russian money for the Russian mob for decades. He was Trump's business partner, had an office in Trump Tower. You've got Trump's -- INGRAHAM: So that's a standard that you set? I just want to understand because I'm a lawyer and I did a lot of white collar criminals. So someone who has an office in your building, you are then responsible for every transaction, everything he's done because I got to say, Dana, you're a smart person. I know you ran for Congress. You probably wish you were running this time around, not 2016, but that's a kind of like just smear job I think people are just fed up with. They try to do it to Kavanaugh with a smear job with literally no corroborating evidence. And now, you say something on national television, I mean, god bless you, that is just like ridiculous. There is no -- GRAYSON: No, I disagree with you Laura. INGRAHAM: -- factual foundation on that. GRAYSON: That is not true, Laura. There is factual foundation and there is -- INGRAHAM: OK, what business interests does Donald Trump have in Russia over the last three years? What business interest does he have? Or five years? GRAYSON: What interest does Russia have in Trump, OK. What they have been doing is buying -- look at Trump SoHo. Trump SoHo, 70 percent of the units were bought in cash transactions with anonymous LLCs. That is a hallmark of money laundering. That is a flashing red light. Felix Sater has -- INGRAHAM: OK, then you got to go to Toronto. Spend some time in Toronto Dana because every building in Toronto, all these buildings are going up, and Sean, I'm sure you've seen them if you've been up there. People just dumping money in real estate because it's a safe haven to build in New York or buy real estate in Paris or Moscow. People are doing it all over the world and especially the Chinese. Duffy, I want to go to you because I think what we're seeing here is the Democrats taste it. They taste in what they believe is an inevitable rush in the House of Representatives, of power and authority, to kind of get back and get back for the last two years, and the embarrassment of 2016. And they do have a lot of drive right now. They have -- they have some wind at their backs. DUFFY: They do. INGRAHAM: I'm not going to try to sugar coat it. DUFFY: And Laura, the mistake they're making is they're actually showing their colors. These leaders that you put on the board, these aren't moderates, these are not blue dark Democrats. These are the radicals. We're going to have the leaders of the Kavanaugh mob outside the capital, we're going to give them gavels in the House of Representatives. And in places like mine in Wisconsin, what's going to happen is the swing voters in rural Wisconsin, they can go Republican or Democrat, they look at who these people are and what their agenda is and how anti-Trump and pro Trump -- pro-America Donald Trump has been. They're going to say I don't want that, I am going to still go Republican. And you're going to see Democrats be shot because their agenda doesn't resonate with the American people in places like Wisconsin. INGRAHAM: All right, Michelle, final word. MALKIN: Yes, (inaudible) the jobs versus mobs mid-term. And, you know, if Dr. Grayson were honest, she would acknowledge that there has been a referendum on the very agenda that she's laid out. And her own husband, who is, really, I think the godfather of Democratic mobbism, somebody who accused Republicans of being likened to al Qaeda. Somebody who hounded peaceful Republicans, who were meeting in a Perkin's restaurant, one of the most unhinged members of Congress that came under criticism by other Democratic leaders for how out of control he was, was rejected just a couple of months ago. And so if you think that Russia, Russia, Russia, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, is going to get the Democratic Party anywhere, why don't you look at you and your husband's own political fate. I hope that isn't fate too on November 6th. INGRAHAM: All right, Dana has got to respond with that, Dana. GRAYSON: Well, look, the reality is, the biggest issue that Americans do care about, you're right, is not Russia, its healthcare. And let's face it, the Republicans stink about healthcare. INGRAHAM: No, it's not. GRAYSON: And everyone is touched by healthcare. Republicans want to cut the pre-existing condition. They want to take away healthcare from Americans and that's not only what Americans want. So I look forward to Democrats being in charge of the house. INGRAHAM: Oh yes, that's the goal, that's what -- that's how Donald Trump won, Dana. I mean, Donald Trump won by saying I want to take away everybody's healthcare. If our healthcare system hadn't been screwed up by Obamacare, we wouldn't have to be dealing with this carnage right now. That's the sad thing. We have to pick up the pieces of a spoiled rollout of Obamacare, but the idea that the country is thinking Donald Trump wants to take away healthcare, it's just ridiculous. I mean -- GRAYSON: But Laura, more Democrats -- INGRAHAM: -- I think the Democrats have got to come to the table with more. You have got to come to the table with solutions. How are you guys going to grow the economy by 4.2 percent? You are not. I appreciate it. Panel, thank you so much. I want to return now to the focus on the next man who could become the chairman of the House Intel Committee, that's California's Adam Schiff. Sean Duffy just referenced him. Now, if he becomes chairman, he's vowed to continue to search for the Russian collusion that so far nobody has been able to prove. I'm joined by former U.S. attorney, assistant U.S. attorney and Fox News contributor Andy McCarthy. Andy, now if Schiff takes control of the House intel, what might we expect specifically? ANDY MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I think we expect exactly what we heard from your last panel as until and Michelle called her out on it. I think, you know, what you're going to get is, you know, let's look at the Trump Tower meeting, let's look at the financing behind Trump's business empire, let's in particular look at the financing of his real estate aspect of his business. And of course they'll say they need the tax returns for that and, you know, we will be off to the races. That's what it will be for however long it lasts. Although I think it will be of great benefit politically to the President, but I don't think the country will like it very much. INGRAHAM: Oh yes, I mean, they'll always overreach. They're going to try to tangle everything up in these tangential issues that will not help a single American have a job, hold a job, and raise wages. None of that is going to be accomplished, but it's Pavlovian at this point where the Democrats say, like they're at the gates and they just want to, you know, rush the gates and get the stuff done. Andy, I have to ask you about a report that came out just a few hours ago, John Solomon's piece in "The Hill" about FBI officials and DOJ officials who had been getting freebie trips to various foreign destinations. And one of the chief beneficiaries of these foreign trips, freebie trips, was Andrew Weissmann. Of course he's one of the most senior people in the Mueller investigation. What's going there? MCCARTHY: Yes. This has become a really big problem, Laura. I wrote about it a few months back when it came up in a financial fraud investigation in New York. This whole idea of the FBI and the Justice Department having this kind of incestuous relationship with the media where they are trading information and they're getting favors out of it. They're getting tickets to sports events, they're getting, you know, all kinds of benefits out of it. I don't know what they're doing at the Justice Department, but that ought to be item one that they're looking at. INGRAHAM: In "The Hill" another great piece by John Solomon. Andy, thank you so much. And for more on why Trump won and how the GOP can do it again, grab a copy of my new paperback, it's "Busting the Barricades: What I Saw at the Populous Revolt" in bookstores everywhere. And up next, the left's literal race to the bottom. See how one rap star is teaming up with the ACLU ahead of the midterms to smear a criminal justice system as, well, is it borne just out of white nationalism? That's the message. You won't believe it. Stay there. INGRAHAM: The Democrats' slogan going into the mid terms is "For The People." But what does that really mean? Only for the people we care about? In a race to the very bottom, the left is making it clear the only thing that matters is what you look like, not what you stand for. That was the case when they tried to take down Kanye West in their attacks against white women. Now, rapper Common is teaming up with the ACLU claiming cops in the entire criminal justice system is based on white supremacy. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) COMMON, RAPPER: How go we change an unjust system? A criminal justice system that for centuries has denied justice to our most vulnerable. A system borne of white supremacy, racism, and discrimination, destroying families and devastating communities along the way. We vote. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Yes, (inaudible) personal responsibility thing, Common. Joining me here in the studio, Herman Cain, radio talk show host and former Republican Presidential candidate, Richard Goodstein, also is a former aid to both Bill and Hillary Clinton. Richard, let me start with you. Now, this has long been a, I think attack of the left, which is -- tactic of the left, which is to go to race in the days before an election. At the same time, Democrats claim that Republicans are the ones who have the race problem. The ACLU used to represent all people. Why is the ACLU teaming up with Common to claim that, what, I guess black cops are part of the racist system, Hispanic cops all throughout Texas, Arizona part of the racist system? How does that unite America behind the Democrat Party? RICHARD GOODSTEIN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well, I think what we are seeing in this accusation about what the Democrats are trying to do around race is part of a scheme whether it's immigration, impeach Trump, Kavanaugh -- there's this kind of scare tactic, even look at these committee chairs. INGRAHAM: That's a scare tactic. GOODSTEIN: Well, one thing, the committee chairs, Maxine Waters and all these black faces, and that's supposed to scare people who watch this show -- INGRAHAM: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Adam Schiff, Nita Lowey, Neal from Massachusetts. See, you are doing, and I love you. You know how I love it - - I love having you on, but you are doing exactly what I'm talking about. It's nothing to do with race. I don't care what color your skin is. It's ridiculous Richard. GOODSTEIN: Look, here's what it has to do with race. Anytime that people-- INGRAHAM: It's ridiculous Richard. GOODSTEIN: If a black person criticizes Donald Trump, they're a dog, they're stupid, they're an idiot, whether it's Lebron, whether it's NFL players, and whether it's Mitt Romney and John McCain, they don't get -- Omarosa gets called a dog, right. Think about the chain of the people who criticize Donald Trump who are black and what he calls them. And the people who were white who criticized him and what he calls them. He didn't call John McCain stupid, or ignorant, or Mitt Romney or other people who weren't with him. All I'm saying is -- INGRAHAM: He just called Stormy Daniels horse face. I don't think she's black, is she? I mean, is that your best response to what I just said? I have to say, you're proving my point. This is about solutions. Trump is actually delivered, Herman, solutions on the economy. He's working on streamlining healthcare so people have choices in healthcare. Prescription drug, price transparency, that's the first step to having lower prescription drug prices. Obama had eight years. Where was all the criminal justice reform? Where was all this action to unify the country racially? We had Baltimore in flames. We had Ferguson in flames. We had the situation with Michael Brown in Florida. This all happened during Obama. The people were mad as hell and they weren't going to take it any more. That was during the great eight years of Utopia. So, they're blaming Trump for this stuff? HERMAN CAIN, AMERICA FIGHTING BACK PAC CHAIRMAN: They didn't do anything about the illegal immigration laws. They didn't do anything about the dreamers laws. And so at this point, Richard is doing exactly what the other Democrats do, they want to focus on the narratives rather than the results. The American people, the people who are seeing America through the wide lens of America, are focusing on results not this narrative. And even in the opening clip that you showed about the coming of the "chairmen" or "chairpersons," well guess what, they want to accuse, they want to allege, and they want to investigate. They're not talking about anything that's going to help the economy, help people with their wages, they're not going to talk about the median income because for the eight years of the Obama administration the median income barely moved. The GDP was at 2 percent and they wanted us to accept it as a new normal. It's that approach because they are desperate Democrats, socialist, some of them are flat-out lunatics in my opinion. INGRAHAM: OK, Jeff Toobin in reference to Trump's base said the following. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEFF TOOBIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Can I make a suggestion? Maybe the base is much of the United States. Maybe this country is a lot more racist and sexist than we thought. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, we elected Barack Obama, and re-elected Barack Obama, supported overwhelmingly by people of all different colors and backgrounds. He was an incredible campaigner, and the country was excited about it. So, this is what one of the preeminent legal analysts at another network, that's what he has to offer. Well, I guess, it can't be that we have the wrong idea. The country is just a rotten, awful, racist, sexist country. I don't get it. GOODSTEIN: I think what Toobin is saying is not all people who supported Trump are racists, but all racists supported Trump, right. CAIN: No. GOODSTEIN: There can't be -- OK -- CAIN: Sorry to interrupt. GOODSTEIN: Go ahead, Herman. Recite to me what groups of racists were right behind Hillary Clinton? CAIN: I apologize for interrupting. I am sick and tired of people making these blanket statements that -- GOODSTEIN: Tell me who it was. CAIN: I don't need to give you a name. GOODSTEIN: Well, you kept interrupting me to say I was wrong. Tell me -- CAIN: You are wrong because you offer no facts. Here again is the narrative. That's all he has to offer -- INGRAHAM: Well, I will say that the people today who are playing this , it's white privilege, it's white -- we have a whiteness problem in the country. There's this meme going around on social media, the country is too white. The country is what it is at any given time. It's black, it's white, it's Hispanic. CAIN: In case you haven't noticed, Richard, I am not white. I know a lot of people who are black a supporting this president. INGRAHAM: It's 36 percent according to a recent poll. CAIN: I am sick and tired of you using the narrative to basically try and attack the conservatives and give no facts. INGRAHAM: You know what, I want to be fair to Richard, too, because I also think it is racist when Harvard decides it's going to penalize Asian- Americans in its admission, the great vaunted Harvard University, my kids will probably never get in there, boohoo, I'm so upset. Go Dartmouth. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: So they're now saying a whole class of people, you are going to be judged by different standards because we have to make this, quote, diverse. That's racist. GOODSTEIN: I don't disagree that Harvard has admissions problem. But I think your viewers, to the extent they believe that racists were not as a general matter supporting Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton, for people to disagree with that as a fundamental proposition to say that's factually inaccurate -- INGRAHAM: More communists supported Hillary. OK, does that mean Hillary or the Democrats -- that's the game you can play on every level. Most pedophiles supported a socialist candidate. I just think, that's not a governing agenda. I get it. There are horrible, awful, rotten racists in America. There always will be. They are marginalized people in our society. They have zero influence and they're despised by pretty much everyone except their core group of people in their basements sending out hateful tweets and posts. That is not America. America is a wonderful and good place. And Democrats used to be, you can do anything in America that you want. I believe the Democrats today have more to offer than this. They do. GOODSTEIN: You have to ask yourself why in every special election we have had since the 2016 general election, Republicans have been losing ground by 15, 20 points. Conor Lamb, Doug Jones, why all these people are winning places that Trump won by a landslide. It's because the people don't actually accept the proposition that you and Herman are putting out. Maybe there is some analysis as to why, given the economic date, but they're not. They're not buying it. INGRAHAM: We'll see what happens in less than three weeks. And we'll see if the great turnout that everyone is predicting all redounds to the Democrats' favor. Maybe it will. They've done a good job, Herman. Republicans better get the turnout, because they have a big money on the Democrat side, and they're chomping at the bit. Republican have got ot fight a good game. Democrats are excited. CAIN: What the Republicans have got to do is push the results. INGRAHAM: Results over resistance. CAIN: Over resistance. INGRAHAM: Guys, thank you so much. And what do Brooklyn witches, a media savvy president, and "The Conners" all have in common? Raymond Arroyo will tell us next. INGRAHAM: It's not time for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we explore some of the big cultural stories of the day. Trump's "60 Minutes" triumph, a Roseanne-less sitcom, and anti Kavanaugh witches? Joining us now to explain Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series Raymond, you thought Trump's Sunday night sit-down with Lesley Stahl was a tour de force and a lesson, a tutorial for Republicans. How so? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: For politicians everywhere and anybody in the public eye. Lesley Stahl got a lot of grief. They said she was easy on him. That's nonsense. She was prepared, she was feisty. She went at him. The president handled her masterfully. He was humorous. He pushed back. Here are some examples. I first want to show you this. I call this the correction. Stahl asked about Trump's unwillingness to criticize Putin. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You don't know what I talked about with Putin in the meeting prior to the press conference. LESLEY STAHL, "60 MINUTES": I mean publicly, you never say anything harsh. TRUMP: Excuse me, I didn't? I'm the one that gave Ukraine offensive weapons, and tank killers. Obama didn't. You know what he sent? He sent pillows and blankets. I'm the one -- and he's the one that gave away a part of Ukraine where Russia now has -- STAHL: I mean him personally. Vladimir Putin. TRUMP: I think I'm very tough with him personally. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: That is the correction. You never let people put words in your mouth. You lay out your narrative and keep going. This is another object lesson in what I call not taking the bait. Stahl asked if Trump has any regrets. Here's his answer. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: I thought very strongly that the one great thing will happen is the press will start treating me great. Lesley, they treat me worse. They got worse instead of better. Very dishonest. STAHL: Is this what you regret? TRUMP: I regret that the press treats me so badly. Despite that my poll numbers are very good. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Redirect, redirect, redirect. INGRAHAM: I regret that you treat badly, that's classic Trump. I love it. ARROYO: He doesn't answer a question he doesn't want to. He asks his own question and sticks to it. INGRAHAM: Don't swing at every pitch. ARROYO: This is masterful. You might call this one, Laura, the smackdown. Stahl tries to get the president off the press and he won't get off it. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STAHL: I'm going to change the subject again. You did it four times. TRUMP: I'm just telling you that you treated me much differently on the subject -- STAHL: I disagree, but I don't want to have that fight with you. I'll have another fight with you. TRUMP: That's OK. In the meantime, I'm president and you're not. (END VIDEO CLIP) (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: That was a drop mic moment, Laura. You do need those big, dramatic moments. And you know what Trump understands? He understands this is his moment in the midterms. Beyond FOX News, beyond cable, he was reaching a massive audience here and making his final pitch for the midterms. It was a tour de force. INGRAHAM: But he's been doing this. People say he's not accessible because he's not on a show that has four viewers? Come one, he's accessible to all these people. And last night, ABC relaunched the Roseanne show without Roseanne, I think it's called "The Conners." And they killed off the beloved matriarch. And there is backlash. ARROYO: There is a backlash as 10.5 million people tuned in. That is 55 percent beneath the premiere a year ago. So they lost a lot of their audience. It's also beneath the average for the year last year. Roseanne died of an opioid overdose. And as the episode went on we found out where she got those opioids. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nobody can afford their meds. We all help each other. Rosie need painkillers. I had some. So I gave them to her. She said that she needed those pain pills to get back to work because you guys were running out of money. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't you try to put this off on me. You gave her the pills. She took them, she died, you killed her. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's like a bad Eugene O'Neill play. It's horrible ARROYO: To takedown a beloved, funny character like this that the whole country was looking to, she was a stand- in for middle America. By killing her in this way, it was disrespectful, which the show writer said he didn't want to be. But I'm sorry, most viewers -- INGRAHAM: Let me tell you, Raymond, it's the way liberal elites usually treat blue collar people, which is why -- ARROYO: The audience is going to erode, watch. Before we go, Laura, I have to tell you this. A bookstore in Brooklyn is hosting a Brett Kavanaugh hex-a-thon. INGRAHAM: What? ARROYO: I wish I were making this up. They're charging $10 a ticket to get together to put a curse on Brett Kavanaugh. We have some exclusive footage of the rehearsal, a run-through. Look at this. I just want to show you this. I'll talk you through it. It's called embracing witchcraft's true roots as the magic. Go to that footage. This is unbelievable footage we have acquired. They're saying the downtrodden and disenfranchised have always used magic. Go to that footage. There they are, you see -- that's the wrong footage. Go to the real footage of the real hex. Here we go. Here they are. They're showing their colors. (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: Laura, we actually -- this is all kidding. But we do have actual footage of the same group, same bookstore in Brooklyn, tried this routine - - that's scary. This is Angelica Houston, believe it or not. This is the actual footage from last year. They hexed the president. I think Brett Kavanaugh needs a few novinas to protect him from the witches' wrath. You'll be have to note in the tradition -- INGRAHAM: Wait, I'm going to hold the crucifix. I don't even like looking at that. I get the heebie-jeebies. ARROYO: In their tradition of terrorizing children, 25 percent of the money will go to Planned Parenthood. So they're being consistent, Laura, consistent witches. INGRAHAM: Satan lives. ARROYO: Nice ending. INGRAHAM: Raymond Arroyo, great "Seen and Unseen." An important question tonight -- Raymond, thank you -- why is this man, noted anti-Semite, Louis Farrakhan still given a platform to espouse his odious views? Dan Bongino and Lee Zeldin react to the Nation of Islam founder's latest disgusting attacks, next. INGRAHAM: Nation of Islam founder and anti-Semitic Louis Farrakhan shared this message marking the 23rd anniversary of the Million Man March. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LOUIS FARRAKHAN, NATION OF ISLAM LEADER: To the members of the Jewish community that don't like me, thank you very much for putting my name all over the planet. When they talk about Farrakhan, call me a hater. You know what they do. Call me an anti-Semite. Stop it. I'm anti-termite. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK. Now, this is a man who recently shared a stage, by the way, with Bill Clinton at Aretha Franklin's funeral, is a cult hero of the women's march, and who can forget the previously hidden photo with Barack Obama from 2005. Joining me with his thoughts, NRA-TV contributor and former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino and New York congressman Lee Zeldin. Congressman, I want to start with you. As one of the only I guess, two Jewish Republicans in Congress, what's your reaction to this? REP. LEE ZELDIN, (R) NEW YORK: He shouldn't have a platform. He also shouldn't have so much access to members of Congress. You talked earlier in the show about Maxine Waters becoming chair of the House Financial Services Committee, there's a relationship with Maxine Waters, with Al Green, with Keith Ellison who wants to be the next attorney general of Minnesota. And these comments, you look back at the history here the comments have gotten a lot more outrageous. He's called Hitler a very good man. He's blamed Jews for 9/11. He has made comments about putting Jews in ovens, and he also makes broader comments just about black people, making comments like how good it is to put a brilliant mind on anything other a black body, or words to that effect. INGRAHAM: Lee, we have a blip on your mic there, so we're going to see if we can rectify that. But your point is such a great point. Given who he is, what he's done, what he said, even that comment, Congressman, Dan, about the termite, I'm not anti-Semite, I'm anti-termite. You can take that to mean a couple of different things, Dan. DAN BONGINO, FORMER NYPD OFFICER: Laura, never has such a disgusting person been given such high level access. These are absolutely horrific, atrocious, hate-filled, vitriolic comments. There's no putting lipstick on that. Think about what he just said. I'm not anti-Semite, I'm anti- termite? Comparing Jewish men and women to insects, termites? INGRAHAM: An infestation, which is what Hitler said, I believe, right, they were infesting Germany and Europe. BONGINO: This is absolutely grotesque behavior. And how these social media platforms allow this stuff to happen while simultaneously targeting conservatives at every opportunity is one of the great puzzles in humankind. We are being screwed over by these social media companies as conservatives like I've never seen. How much longer they think people are going to take this for? This is outrageous. INGRAHAM: I have to say to both of you from Twitter today, after it was reposted, comparing Jews to termites, "Just in from Twitter spokesperson, Louis Farrakhan's tweet comparing Jews to termites is not in violence of the company's policies. The policy on dehumanizing language has not yet been implemented." That's a Buzzfeed reporter Joe Bernstein put that out. So I guess you can compare Jews to rats and insects, and you can get it while you can, I guess. That's his point, that's what he says. Congressman, I've got to say, for everyone from Obama to the woman's march organizer, other prominent Democrats, Bill Clinton at the Aretha Franklin funeral, liberals just let them get away with this. They just get a total free pass. Congressman? ZELDIN: Imagine if it was the other way around. If this was someone who has access to a lot of Republican members of Congress, you would be requiring the president, the vice president, every Republican to be condemning this to ensure that the person doesn't have a platform. On the other side he is held up as a cult hero. We reject this on our side of the aisle. And for voters out there, a lot of Jewish voters vote for Democrats. INGRAHAM: Why? ZELDIN: You look at this president moving the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, withdrawing from the fatally flawed Iran nuclear deal, signing the Taylor Force Act to better leverage our money provided to the Palestinians. INGRAHAM: They should all be reexamining their association with the Democrat party given how great this president has been with Israel and all these issues. Gentlemen, sorry it was so short. Ahead, Hidden Scandals, our next edition in a continuing series, stay there. INGRAHAM: Now for our continuing series ahead of the midterms, Hidden Scandals, what the media aren't telling you about certain candidates. Bob Menendez has served -- and that is a generous description -- the people of New Jersey and Congress since 1993, For the past 12 years as one of their U.S. senators. Now he was expected to breeze to another reelection, and at one point he was beating his Republican competitor Bob Hugin by a 21-point spread in the polls. But now this race is down to 6.2 percent in the Real Clear Politics average. Sensing an opening, Hugin is out with a new ad raising questions about Menendez's unsavory past. Here is just a snippet. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When will we as a society begin to believe women, to trust women? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What a hypocrite. What about the underaged girls who accused you according to the FBI? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: New Jersey's Bob Menendez is being forced to deny allegation of engaging with prostitutes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sex with underaged prostitutes in the Dominican Republic. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Menendez reacted then forcefully accusing Hugin of misogyny. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. BOB MENENDEZ, (D) NEW JERSEY: This deceitful, despicable attack ad tells you everything you need to know about Republican Bob Hugin, that he is a slime ball, he's a misogynist, and he's a liar. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Bob, remember the finger is always pointed back at you. The "Washington Post" fact checker quickly sprang to the Menendez's defense, giving Hugin's ad four Pinocchios. But is it completely wrong? It's true the Obama DOJ did not bring charges against Menendez regarding underaged prostitution. Their court documents also noted at the time, quote, "The government took responsible steps to investigate these serious criminal allegations, which were not so easily disprovable as the defendant suggests." They went on to cite Menendez's inconsistencies regarding his extensive relationship with the Florida eye doctor Salomon Melgen, and Melgen's proclivity for young women, which brings us to the next part of the mess. As Michelle Malkin reminds us in "National Review," regardless of the prostitution charges, Menendez and Melgen have quite a history. Among the examples, Menendez flew on multiple luxury flights to the Caribbean with his wealthy donor pal Melgen on the taxpayers dime. He used his Senate influence to push a lucrative port security deal directly benefiting Melgen. And for his part Melgen was convicted of bilking sick old people on 67 counts of massive Medicare fraud totaling $90 million. The company you keep, right? It is important for all voters around the country to know the full story of all of these candidates. Stories media would prefer to gloss over. But we will continue to expose them in the lead up to November 6th. Up next, a big congratulations are in order. That when we come back. INGRAHAM: All right, a note of congratulations to someone who never wants congratulations, but too bad. A wildly talented lawyer and I guess he is a pretty cool godfather, Pat Cipollone, officially announced by the president as the new White House counsel. It's a huge job, especially important in the next few years. The now departed Don McGahn did a great job for the president for the last two years. Load-Date: October 18, 2018 End of Document Democrats In Disarray; 21 Days Until Crucial Midterm Elections; Elizabeth Warren's DNA Debacle; The Left's Shameful Tactics Exposed; Major Questions Still Swirling Around Disappearance Of Journalist Jamal Khashoggi; One-On-One With Pastor Andrew Brunson; Rapper T.I. Posts Vulgar Video Featuring Crude Images Of A Melania Trump Look-Alike; Lara Trump Reacts To The Left's Smears Against First Lady Melania Trump; Lara Trump On Upcoming Midterm Elections Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 16, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7369 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Sebastian Gorka, Steve Doocy, Jason Chaffetz, Kristin Fisher Guests: Larry Elder, Dan Bongino, Andrew Brunson, Lara Trump Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Buckle up. A lot of breaking news. Welcome to HANNITY. We are only three weeks away until one of the most important midterm elections you'll ever see in your lifetime. Democrats tonight are reeling. Three weeks from tonight, you have the power to once again shock the world. You have it all. Now, for months, they predicted the so-called blue wave. Tonight, there is a full panic mode. Party leaders, 2020 hopeful Elizabeth Warren is frankly making the whole party look absurd. Her DNA publicity stunt has backfired. Her decades-long claims of Native American heritage is nothing more than a fraud. Meanwhile, many Democratic Senate candidates are losing massive ground all over the country and still, the future of the U.S. Congress, the House, that remains very much in doubt tonight, especially in the House of Representatives. Coming up tonight, we're going to show you how a vote for any Democrat three weeks from today in November is actually a vote for Nancy, Pelosi Chuck Schumer and yes impeach 45, Maxine Waters. And while some on the left are campaigning as so-called moderates, with the help of an undercover report from Project Veritas, we have exclusive video tonight. We will expose how this is one big fraud. It's not true. Also tonight, Trump hating rapper T.I. has released a vile despicable disgusting video featuring the First Lady Melania Trump looking like a stripper in the Oval Office, and Democrats defend -- where are they defending the first lady against what is a horribly sexist offensive attack tonight? Well, so far, we haven't heard from them and it's now been four days. Crickets. We'll also have full coverage of the Saudi journalist who has now feared dead as our Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is now in Turkey after being in Saudi Arabia. And coming up later, freed Pastor Andrew Brunson held because of his Christian faith, he will join us and talk about his ordeal. Sit tight, buckle up, a lot of news. Time for our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. For decades, Senator Elizabeth Warren claimed to be a Native American. From 1986 to 1995, she listed herself as a Native American in the directory of the Association of American Law Schools. She also identified as a Native American during her tenure as a professor at the University of Pennsylvania and later while teaching at Harvard Law School, she was described as the, quote, the only tenured minority woman on multiple occasions. Senator Warren stated that her mother and father were forced to elope because of racism surrounding her mother's Native American lineage. She was featured in a Native American cookbook entitled "Pow Wow Chow". As it turns out, according to a DNA test released by Senator Warren herself just yesterday, she is only approximately one sixty-fourth or one one-thousandth twenty-fourth Native American. That's less than 0.1 percent Native American. According to the American Journal of Human Genetics, that would be less than the average white American living in the United States. And just to recap, Senator Warren claimed to be a Native American in her professional career and her political career all for personal gain, then laughably tried to prove her detractors wrong by releasing a DNA test showing less than 0.1 percent Native American heritage. So, what kind of fantasy world is she living? Is this really the best the Democrats have to offer? And now, even the mainstream media, while initially supporting her, they're now mocking Elizabeth Warren's DNA debacle. And Senator Warren, a leader among the left, the Democratic Party, and tonight, she is turning into a national embarrassment along with that party, and this comes at the absolute worst time for Democrats, with just three weeks to go until the midterm elections. That's three weeks from today The Democratic Party is in disarray, all across the country. But especially in red states, Democratic candidates have been coached to avoid any divisive topics and basically to lie to you the American people. They want you to believe that they're fair-minded moderates. They are lying. There are virtually no moderates left in the modern Democratic Party. Still, the left-wing Center for American Progress, John Podesta's group, advised that congressional hopefuls, don't - - don't talk about immigration, don't do it. Meanwhile, party leaders are begging Democrats not to talk about plans to impeach the president. But some like Maxine Waters, well, she's even admitting they're telling her not to talk about it, but she just can't help herself. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: I'm in this fight. I'm in this fight and I'm not going to move, and as you know there's a difference and how some of our leadership talked about how we should handle all of this. They say, Maxine, please don't say impeachment anymore and when they say that, I say impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment -- (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Don't talk about impeachment even though we really agree with it. Don't talk about immigration even though we want open borders and eliminating ICE. In other words, lie to the American people. That's their strategy. Many other prominent Democrats are busy demonizing political differences now with what is now a hyper-partisan divisive atmosphere with divisive rhetoric, including Senator Kamala Harris of California, recently joking about killing President Trump and Vice President Pence. Is this a joke to you? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ELLEN DEGENERES, TV HOST: If you had to be stuck in an elevator with either President Trump, Mike Pence or Jeff Sessions, who would it be? (LAUGHTER) SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: Does one of us have to come out alive? (LAUGHTER) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Imagine conservatives saying that about any liberal. Many of the very same Democrats who vilify Republicans also refusing to condemn what we see with our own eyes, the mob rule the violent protests occurring in some of America's major cities. And of course, marching orders if you see them, create a crowd follow them into restaurants and gas stations and department stores, tell them they're not wanted anyplace anywhere anymore. Unacceptable but Democrats simply will not say so. And when it comes to the #MeToo movement, Democrats claim to care about the treatment of women. Remember the Kavanaugh hearings? But when it's not politically expedient for them to do so their silence is deafening. Take for example this disgusting new video from Trump aiding rapper T.I. featuring a Melania Trump look-alike tonight. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Melania Trump did not go to Mar-a-Lago with the president this weekend, which has a lot of people wondering. (MUSIC) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Remember the C-word? The reaction, the left kind of quiet too, and the C-word is used against the Ivanka Trump. That video gets far more graphic. And this is our first lady who's representing our country with honor and dignity. But tonight, we're asking the question, where are all of you feminists, where's Dianne Feinstein? Where are the people on the left calling out T.I. for that disgraceful video? Where are the prominent Democrats constantly calling Republicans sexist? Hillary Clinton, Senator Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, Elizabeth Warren, where are you tonight? Only when President Trump tweets something about Stormy do you care. Which brings us to another glaring double standard in the Democratic Party. Top DNC official Keith Ellison now losing ground in his race to be the Minnesota attorney general amid serious domestic abuse allegations by his ex- girlfriend Karen Monahan. Watch this. (BEGI VIDEO CLIP) KARE MONAHAN, FORMER GIRLFRIEND OF REP. KEITH ELLISON (D-MN): I didn't look up to him look up at him and I shook my head, that's when he said, hey, I'm (EXPLETIVE DELETED) talking to you. You need to listen, and I was stunned. And that's when he grabbed my ankles and said, you need to get the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) out, you need to get the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) out now. And he started grabbing my ankles, trying to pull me out the bed. INTERVIEWER: What happened after that? MONAHAN: He kept trying to pull me. I put my body weight. He didn't pull me off the bed. He was trying to drag me off the bed. And then he looked down I guess and knocked my flip-flop off my -- I had flip-flop house shoes on, knocked it off my foot and told me I better leave the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) out of his house. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Where all those Democrats that one of the FBI investigation into Judge Kavanaugh? Why aren't Democrats demanding an investigation into him? Why are they so silent? Serious allegations, recent allegations. Do they not believe her? The same people that believed every outrageous allegation against Brett Kavanaugh with no due process, no presumption of innocence. How about a just FBI investigation, and why don't the same people call for it? New polls -- polls are showing Ellison tonight in a neck-and-neck race with a Republican opponent Doug Wardlow. So, while Democrats have been largely silent about the claims, voters are taking notice. In Missouri tonight, Democratic incumbent, Senator Claire McCaskill, she's in a tight race against Republican challenger Josh Hawley who's coming on very strong. She campaigns as a so-called moderate, she is anything but. She has been exposed for her far-left views in a series now of undercover videos from Project Veritas. Last night, we showed you footage where her campaign staff was admitting McCaskill support for widespread gun restrictions including a ban on semi- automatic weapons. After getting exposed, what did she do? Lashes out, blaming her opponent Josh Hawley of fraudulently coordinating with Project Veritas. By the way, I questioned Project Veritas tonight, they told me exclusively that never happened. By the way, she has no evidence. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CLAIRE MCCASKILL (D), MISSOURI: It is startling that Josh Hawley would be part of fraudulently embedding somebody in my campaign. He's the attorney general of the state of Missouri, he's supposed to be going after fraud, not participating in it. So, there was nothing there. I've been very upfront about all my positions. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Sort of like her RV trip around the state in a private jet. Now, Project Veritas categorically denying that charge. So, too, tonight is Josh Hawley's campaign and his campaign called this absurd. Josh, by the way, and Martha McSally will join us on this program tomorrow night. And tonight, we have even more footage. This time, we have the campaign of Claire McCaskill, her staff caught on tape admitting their political strategy -- lie to the voters, the people of Missouri, pretend to be something you're not, a moderate. This is what we have been telling you all along. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You were saying that you think she is more progressive than she lets on? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think so too. I think she's a lot more open-minded to taking like alternative routes to things but she can't be open about that." UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because this is a 19-point Trump state. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because she would completely isolate the moderate Republicans. Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's like we have to -- we have to lie to get elected? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Essentially, essentially. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oopsie-daisy. We reached out to McCaskill's campaign for comment, they didn't get back. This is similar to the same deception we showed you first last week with Tennessee Democrat candidate Phil Bredesen. His staffers caught on tape basically saying again their boss would never support Judge Kavanaugh even though he's telling the voters of Tennessee something else, just because he wants to get elected. But he'll do the right thing when he's elected. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wasn't really, right? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Vote for Kavanaugh? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think so. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was so confused, because I just can't believe that he would actually vote yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He wouldn't, but he said he would. I don't know if that makes it worse or better. No, it makes it better, but still -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But what's -- like I don't understand what's the game by saying yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Moderate Republicans. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, you want honest politicians because you have McCaskill and Bredesen's deception, that's getting exposed. Rising GOP star Martha McSally, well she's continuing to gain momentum and her important race in Arizona for the Senate there, following shocking comments from her Democratic opponent Kyrsten Sinema. Back in 2010, Kyrsten Sinema actually called Arizona the meth lab of democracy. In 2011, she called Arizonans crazy -- now she wants their votes. In 2003, even suggested, oh, it's okay for Americans to go fight for the Taliban. She also promoted events at Arizona State University with a lawyer who represented the blind sheikh. Yes, that blind sheikh. She also organized an anti-war rally with self-described witches and invited them. And tonight, even more past comments continuing to surface. In 2011, she's comparing again her state she wants votes from Arizona to Lindsay Lohan. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. KYRSTEN SINEMA (D), ARIZONA: But, you know, so all around the world, people know what's happening in Arizona and not in a good way. We're not famous like in a good way. We're kind of like in a Lindsay Lohan kind of famous way. Not good. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: At least her campaign responded. They're dismissing it as a desperate attack. No, it's called the truth. And last night during the debate, McSally called out Sinema over the disgusting remarks and she didn't hold back. Let's take a look at this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MARTHA MCSALLY (R), ARIZONA: While we were in harm's way, she was protesting our troops in a pink tutu. And I'll tell you what, if these are not just qualifying enough, Kyrsten, what came out last week, CNN reported that in 2003, while she was on the radio, you said it was okay for Americans to join the Taliban to fight against us. You said you had no problem with that. MODERATOR: All right. We are running out of time, but we have to respond to that, please? MCSALLY: Kyrsten, I want to ask right now whether you're going to apologize to the veterans and me for saying it's okay to commit treason, Kyrsten. MODERATOR: Please? We are running out of time, so we got to get a response. MCSALLY: Well, we need a response because she owes us an apology. MODERATOR: Please? SINEMA: Well, Martha has chosen to run a campaign like the one you're seeing right now, where she's engaging in ridiculous attacks and smearing my campaign and she's just trying to cut, cut, cut and not share the full picture. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Checkmate, Martha McSally. This is your new Democratic Party I've been warning you about. Who do the people of Arizona, who do you want representing you, a war hero who supports the president, who put her life on the line for her country or a radical left- wing activist who mocks the people of Arizona, her own state? It's pretty simple. You vote for a Democrat running for Senate, you're voting for Chuck Schumer and I know Chuck Schumer. He happens to be my senator, I'm stuck here paying 10 percent state income taxes in New York. And in the House of Representatives, I don't care what district you're in, remember, you vote for any Democrat, you're voting for Nancy Pelosi and she is anything but a fair-minded moderate. She represents the very worst of the party of smear, slanders, lies, no due process and, of course, no presumption of innocence. But that's only for Democrats. But this for years, she has been front and center, carrying out the Democratic playbook: Republicans, racist, sexist, misogynist, xenophobic, homophobic, dirty air, water, they want to kill your children and throw your grandmother over the cliff. We're sick of these lies. In three weeks from today, 21 days, you vote for a Democrat, you stay home, you don't vote at all. This is what you are supporting, take a very close look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA: The latest Republican plan to gut essential health benefits and protections for pre-existing conditions will make it impossible for millions of Americans to afford the health coverage they desperately need. This is deadly. This is deadly. Well, I wanted single-payer. I mean, I wanted a -- I'd love a single-payer but we're not there. In terms of the bonus that corporate America received versus the crumbs that they are giving to workers to kind of but the schmoozing one is so pathetic. If you breathe air, drink water, eat food, take medicine or in any other way interact with the courts, this is a very bad decision. So what? They're going to say you give them bump stock, it's going to be the slippery slope? I certainly hope so. I say to the candidates, do whatever you have to do. Just win, baby. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Three weeks from tonight, and as we will reveal 10 more of the House races that will decide the fate of the country, here we go. Here in North Carolina, second congressional district, GOP incumbent George Holding in a fierce battle with Democrat Linda Coleman. In North Carolina nine, Democrat Dan McCready has a big time cash advantage, but conservative Republican Mark Harris has a very slight edge. He needs your help. North Carolina 13, Republican Ted Budd has a slim lead against activists left-winger Democrat Kathy Manning. New Hampshire, the first district, Democrat Chris Pappas favored, a Republican, a former police chief Eddie Edwards, it could go either way. I'm with the police chief tonight. In New Jersey second, GOP candidate Seth Grossman in an extremely tough race against Democrat Jeff Van Drew. Yes, New Jersey matters. In their third district, GOP Representative Tom MacArthur running against former Obama national security official Andy Kim. Recent poll had MacArthur up by only two points. In New Jersey seven, Republican Leonard Lance in a crucial class with another former Obama official, Tom Malinowski. New Jersey 11, GOP candidate Jay Webber facing Democrat Mikie Sherrill. She leads Webber by four in a recent poll. Pennsylvania one, Republican incumbent Brian Fitzpatrick up against Democrat Scott Wallace. Finally, we have Pennsylvania five where Republican Pearl Kim has her hands full against Democrat Mary Scanlon and the Dems may take this one if Republicans don't get out with voting with a sense of urgency. This is it. Three weeks from tonight, you'll tune in for results. Joining us now: Salem nationally syndicated radio host, friend of the program, Larry Elder. FOX News investigative reporter and contributor, Sara Carter. Also, the author of the new book "Why We Fight", FOX News national security strategist, Sebastian Gorka. Look, I know, Dr. Gorka, America is going to survive if the people don't get out and Pelosi becomes a speaker. But their agenda is clear. DR. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: It is. They completely come out of the closet as radicals. The lunatics have taken over the asylum, Sean. That's the very simplest summary of what's happened. They are trying to normalize violence. And it's not just, you know, the crazy characters that we become used to, such as Maxine Waters, but when you have a constant drumbeat that this is OK, that using violence is OK, when people don't talk about the consequences of people like James Hodgkinson being on the left and then taking a rifle and a handgun to a congressional charity baseball match and what happens? He tries to assassinate not politicians, Sean. He tries to assassinate exclusively Republican politicians. We don't see this on the right. There's no equivalent of Antifa. We don't have people creating violence and encouraging it on the right. This is the Democrat Party, Hillary and everybody else. HANNITY: It's all -- it's all smoke and mirrors, Sara, and it's being exposed. Don't talk about immigration, whatever you do. Maxine, please stop talking about impeachment, please, pretty please, don't expose what we really stand for. Oh and by the way, Melania Trump can have this video released, silence, nothing. Keith Ellison, nothing, no investigation. Ivanka Trump, the most vile terms use it against her. All they care about is Stormy and destroying Kavanaugh. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, this is what the American people do know, Sean, based on the first two years of this presidency, that the Democrats have dragged this administration, as much as they could through the mud, tried to stymie whatever they could, whatever progress the administration was making. And they have not been successful at it. They have not been successful at these tactics and the tactics have gotten worse. What we have to say to ourselves is, what would the next two years be like if the Democrats do take the House? I mean, think about this -- it would shut down the investigations that have actually exposed how corrupt the Democratic National Committee, the Hillary Clinton campaign, members of the FBI senior level officials in the DOJ, that would be practically shut down. We would be dealing with two years of Democrats basically going after they can into this president and his family. HANNITY: Larry Elder -- Ronald Reagan famously asked for when it was running in '84, are you better off than you were four years ago? Is America better off? African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, 14 states, women in the workplace, youth unemployment record lows. Are we more prosperous and secure than we were two years ago? Simple question. LARRY ELDER, SALEM RADIO NATIONAL HOST/AM 870: And the answer, of course, is obviously yes. As you pointed out, the black unemployment, all-time low and President Trump is doing something about something that inner-city blacks have wanted the president's to do for a very long time, and has to stop the flow of illegal, unskilled work that workers, that pose competition to jobs and puts downward pressure on wages. And for once, for a change, the president's doing something about it. My friend who sits on the Civil Rights Commission, Peter Kirsanow, sent a long letter to his Congresswoman Marcia Fudge who at the time was head of the Congressional Black Caucus about this problem of illegal immigration. She didn't even respond. And Peter said, all of the members of the of the Civil Rights Commission, the moderates, the independents and the conservatives all talked about the threat posed to unskilled workers black and brown from illegal immigration, and no presidents doing anything about it until Donald Trump. And believe me, black people are responding to it. That's why you have somebody like Kanye West coming out in favor of Donald Trump. HANNITY: Exit question, quick answers. Larry, who's going to take -- I think the Senate's looking decent, but I always like to play like you're behind. House -- who gets the House as of today? ELDER: We're going to pick up a couple of seats in the Senate. The House, as far as I'm concerned, here's a coin flip. When the next report comes out about the GDP for this quarter, I think it's going to make a big difference. HANNITY: Sara? CARTER: I agree with Larry, but I really think that the House is going to go to the Republicans. I think we're going to make history this year. HANNITY: What do you think -- well, the American people shocked the world, Dr. Gorka. GORKA: I trust one man, Larry Schweikart. Larry Schweikart got it right last time and he says we're going to keep the Senate and we're going to keep the House. I trust Larry. HANNITY: Well, I think we'll gain seats in the Senate if things stay on the current trajectory. We'll see. It's up to the American people. Thank you all. When we come back, Steve Doocy joins us. Dan Bongino, Congressman Jason Chaffetz reacting to our monologue. Also later, Pastor Andrew Brunson. I have another announcement at the end of the show, Laura Trump tonight as well, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. A lot of breaking news tonight as we get reaction from our guests. NRATV contributor Dan Bongino, former congressman, FOX News contributor Jason Chaffetz, author of "The Happy Cookbook". I'm on page, I think, 118, corned beef and cabbage -- STEVE DOOCY, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: One eighty-one. HANNITY: Whatever. DOOCY: One eighty-one. HANNITY: Well, sorry, 181. Yes, that's right, you put Steve and Ainsley in front, and Hannity you dump in the back. I got it. I understand. DOOCY: It's an entree. You go in the meat and potatoes. You wanted to be in the appetizer page? Come up with deviled eggs. HANNITY: You wanted, you know, help out a friend here. Welcome all of you. All right. Dan, let me start with you. What's amazing to me is: Maxine, don't say impeachment, just hide it. Bredesen caught on tape, don't say it. Center for American Progress, don't talk immigration, lie about who you are. That's the only way you can win. That is breathtaking to me. DAN BONGINO, NRATV CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, Sean, well, the Democrats have never had an agenda that had any kind of mass popular support across the country. They've traditionally relied on the courts because they only have to convince one judge in a black robe and not hundreds of millions of Americans that their agendas for them. They've always hid behind flowery speeches, hopey-changey things, and then when they get into office and have to actually implement things like Obamacare, you know, people rebel against it. So, there's nothing new here. This is just the Democrats' M.O. It's what they've always done. HANNITY: Yes. You know, Steve, I watch you guys in the morning, and I especially like when you guys give the news in the beginning of the show and three of bantering. You had a really good perspective this week. And we've seen all this before. This is not new, except it seems it's more exposed than ever before. DOOCY: Well, you know it's interesting, Sean, because right now what Elizabeth Warren has done is she has made the Democrat Party look bad because they felt like they were on the verge of taking the house and she has done something. I was talking to some correctional types down in Washington today. And they've said she did something really, really very selfish, and that is just three weeks away from the midterm she decides -- with her big rollout, she is going to take the bait from Donald Trump who has baited her about her heritage for a long time. And she's going to prove that she's got Native American blood. But here's the thing, while the average American over the last year or two probably had an idea, yeah, I heard something vague about her heritage. Now thanks to the fact that she had this rollout, most Americans now have heard that she's 1/1,000 perhaps Native American. HANNITY: Yeah, 1/1,024th, get it accurate, Steve, you'll be criticized on media. Get it right. Congressman, let me go to you. You know what's amazing, we've got these mobs. We've got Maxine Waters saying get a crowd and follow them into grocery stores, and department stores, and restaurants. You saw what happened to Pam Bondi. You saw what happened with Secretary Nielsen. Saw what happened to Sarah Sanders, Ted Cruz his wife, Heidi, Mitch McConnell. It seems like they're listening. I blame people for their actions, not words. But in this case, you know, seems like a direct correlation for me and then hide your agenda. JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, yeah. I mean, the resistance movement started the day. Donald Trump was elected the President of the United States. They were stunned. They didn't know what to do. Now that the president has been highly successful, the economy is doing well, the world is a safer place, he's pushing for a border wall, all these good things are happening. The only playbook that they have says scorched earth, the politics of personal destruction, the resistance movement, and it distracts from the idea that they have no ideas. They have no policy to run on as Dan was saying. And that's what they do is they try to distract that every moment. But Elizabeth Warren, holy cow, that's -- I mean, she thought that was good news. HANNITY: I'll start with you, Dan. Can you think of one thing the Democrats are running on that they want to do that will improve the lives of the American people either economically or in terms of security. DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: No. I mean, no, Sean. Listen. HANNITY: Not one. BONGINO: No, I didn't. But the Democrats are usually tactically smarter than this, Sean. I'm not a Star Trek fan but they think like the Borg, you know. They have this hive mind. And they're usually pretty good with the hive mind of sticking to one focus group desk, talking point. Trump has them in a dizzy. They're talking about DNA tests, Cherokee DNA tests. They're talking about impeachment, all these other stuff. You know, I don't like their ideas, but I've always admired their. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: One positive agenda item besides maybe they like my corned beef and cabbage recipe. I'm page 181 of your new book. DOOCY: It is delicious. I think the Democrats are, of the opinion, that they're standing between the American people and the Republicans who want to undo their Obamacare. And so, they're running on health care and that is the one thing in the polls the people do care about. HANNITY: You know, Congressman Chaffetz, I did notice polls have tightened in your state of Utah. Mia Love is a rock star for the Republican Party. I hope the people of Utah send her back. CHAFFETZ: They've got to get out and vote. If we just get Republicans to vote Republicans in Utah, Mia Love will be just fine. But that's got to happen across the country because the Democrats -- they want to abolish ICE, for goodness sake. That's the only thing that they think is a good thing. It's just unbelievable to me. I've never seen it as bad for the Democrats as I do right now. HANNITY: All right. Thank you all for being with us. By the way, if you do read Steve's cookbook start at page 181, not at the beginning. Fox & Friends every morning, 6 to 9. Thanks to all for being with us. When we come back still unanswered questions, what has happened to this missing journalist? Saudi journalist, works for the Washington Post. Kristin Fisher has a full report. Also, I will speak with the American pastor, another success story, Andrew Bronson just released from captivity in Turkey, and Lara Trump when we come back, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right, big developments today with the missing Saudi journalist, Kristin Fisher in Washington tonight with that report. Kristin? KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Sean, President Trump just gave an interview to the Associated Press where he compared the rush to condemn the Saudis over this missing -- most likely murdered journalists to the sexual assault accusations against now Justice Brett Kavanaugh. He told the A.P., quote, here we go again with, you know, your guilty until proven innocent, I don't like that. We just went through that with Justice Kavanaugh, and he was innocent all the way as far as I'm concerned. So we have to find out what happened. Although, that end, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was in Saudi Arabia today meeting with the king and crown prince, and tomorrow he's heading to Turkey. President Trump says he's waited to make a final call, and if he's treasury secretary will still attend that investment conference in Riyadh until the investigation is closer to being complete. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: We're all looking at it together. But Turkey and Saudi Arabia are looking at it very strongly. And it depends whether or not the king or the crown prince knew about it. If they knew about it, that would be bad. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: So the question now is just how hard would President Trump be willing to punish the Saudis if they are indeed responsible. President Trump proved that he was perfectly capable to punish Turkey for its detention of the American pastor Andrew Brunson. He really pushed the Turkish economy to the brink. And in the end, he ultimately got what he wanted, Sean. HANNITY: All right, Kristin Fisher in Washington tonight. And Secretary Pompeo has gone to Saudi Arabia. He's now in Turkey. And I think one of the strongest secretaries of state we've had. We will get the answers. Now, according to news reports, Pastor Brunson is that 19th prisoner -- perhaps hostage is the right word, freed by the Trump administration. Here's Pastor Brunson praying with the president at the White House over the weekend. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDREW BRUNSON, PASTOR: Lord God, I ask that you pour out your holy spirit on President Trump, that you give him supernatural wisdom to accomplish all the plans you have for this country and for him. I ask that you get some wisdom not to lead this country into righteousness. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Joining us now is Pastor Brunson himself. Pastor, I'm so glad you're out. I know how many worked on your behalf, talked about your case often, Jay Sekulow, the president. You were held for 18 months and had no reason, no understanding why, and you were held in a cell designed for 8 and there were 21 people, correct? BRUNSON: Yes, part of that time it was very crowded -- crowded cell. And part of the time I was also in isolation, so it was a very difficult time. And I was surprised because I had never really considered prison as a possibility and counted the costs for that. HANNITY: How were you treated, sir? BRUNSON: I was treated well by the prisoners I was with. HANNITY: And they were not of your faith. BRUNSON: They weren't and that was one of the very difficult things is that I was isolated by culture and by language, but especially by religion. And it was very difficult to be the only Christian among them. HANNITY: When you found out what you were being held for, which was your faith, what did you think? BRUNSON: Well, what was surprising is that they told me that I was being held for terrorism and for trying to overthrow the government. And the truth is if we had been preaching Jesus Christ, sir. That's why we were in Turkey for 23 years, up until that time, is to share the gospel of Jesus Christ with Turks. We done that openly and never had a problem. So it was very shocking to be accused of terrorism. HANNITY: Well, and also -- but it really came down to your Christian faith in many ways, which is -- and I thought your prayer was extraordinarily touching with the president. I want to talk -- what was your worst moment? Because I can imagine that when you lose your freedom you pretty much lose everything, especially in a foreign country, not being know why -- not knowing why you're even being held. And, you know, not having anyone to share your faith, your values with you, what was your lowest moment? BRUNSON: Well, when I was arrested and it kept going on and on, and it seemed that there was no way out, and I lost a lot of hope. And what helped me -- I began to see that there was value in my suffering especially as time went on. I saw that many people around the world began praying for me. And I began to see that God. HANNITY: How did you find out about that? How did you hear about that? BRUNSON: Well, this is, especially, through my wife because she was the only contact I've really had with the outside world. And she could visit me for about half an hour every week through a glass and speaking on the phone and she would bring encouragement to me and tell me that people were praying for me. And as I learned that, I began to see that God was involved in this, and that God was going to do something with my suffering that had value. HANNITY: Why did you say this morning in an interview that I was one of the most hated man in Turkey, probably? BRUNSON: Well, I've been accused of trying to overthrow the government of being aligned with the terrorist movement, also being part of the PKK which is a Kurdish guerrilla terror movement. And also, I was blamed for the economic problems Turkey had. So, there are probably aren't too many people who like me there right now. HANNITY: Let's talk about that moment that touched a lot of people, you're a man of great faith and, obviously, a strong Christian and you prayed for the president, let's talk about that moment. BRUNSON: Well, it's something that we had hoped to be able to do. My wife had -- for some time wanted to pray some verses over him from Isaiah, just asking for the spirit of God to come upon him. And before we went to meet him, when we've learned we would be able to visit him in the White House, we've prayed together, my wife and I, and asked God to give us an opportunity to pray for the president. And it's a great privilege. I think many pastors would love to do it. And our president needs prayer. HANNITY: You know, pastor, we're glad you're home, for you and your family. It was a very touching moment. I think all of us -- I'll start with me, could use more God in our lives. And I think you impact a lot of people. Welcome home, sir. We're glad to have you back. BRUNSON: Thank you. And I want to thank you for keeping me in the news while I was in prison. I appreciate it. HANNITY: Very welcome to do it, sir. Jay Sekulow did an amazing job. The president stood strong, and thank God you're here. All right, when we come back, the left continues to literally berate the First Lady Melania Trump in the most disturbing, disgusting video. And we'll compare what would the reaction in the media be if this was, say, Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton. Also, we told you about our interview with Rush Limbaugh, Thursday. We have another announcement straight ahead tonight. HANNITY: All right. Last week, rapper T.I. tweeted out what is a despicable, disgusting vile video attacking the first lady, Melania Trump as a stripper. We're not going to show a lot but here's a part of it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (THUMPING SOUND) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The left's never ending and recent vile smears against the first lady didn't stop there. Last Friday, one of the cohosts of The View suggested that the first lady may have been President Trump's mistress. These are vile attacks. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is it possible that she's not concerned with his mistresses because she was one of them? Is that possible? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: It's no wonder the first lady told ABC that she was one of the most bullied people because it's true. Here with reaction, senior advisor to Donald J. Trump for president, President Trump's daughter-in-law, Lara Trump. I know Melania. I've had a chance to really meet her. English is her fifth language, an amazing background, life, career, we saw the incredible trip she just took. The dignity, the class she has. If you're not a Democrat, the Democrats are silent. LARA TRUMP, SENIOR ADVISOR FOR TRUMP 2020: Of course. HANNITY: They only want to go after Judge Kavanaugh or defend Stormy. TRUMP: Yeah. HANNITY: . but not Ivanka when the C word is used, not you when you're attacked. And the first lady, the attacks on her -- I can't imagine that happening to Michelle Obama ever, or Hillary Clinton even. TRUMP: This supposed party of women, Sean, is -- as you've said, completely silent here. I'm waiting for anyone to speak up against this on the Democrat side. And we have heard absolute crickets from them. It's disgusting. And sadly it's not that shocking anymore because we know that there is no low, too low for the left, for the media, for Hollywood, when it comes to the president, to the first lady, and to the entire first family. And I don't care what side of the political aisle you're on. The First Lady of the United States deserves respect. This is disgusting and it should be condemned by everyone. HANNITY: Well, I don't hear any calls for an FBI investigations -- Keith Ellison, you know, like they did with Judge Kavanaugh. TRUMP: Yeah, of course not. HANNITY: And some of those allegations were so over-the-top, it was patently absurd. I don't see them ever defending Melania Trump ever. Where's Hillary? Where's Pelosi? Where's Feinstein? TRUMP: Double standard across the board. And you think about how differently this would have been treated if this were our previous first lady. Again, I think it is horrible -- it doesn't matter who you voted for whether or not you are Democrat or Republican, this is disgusting and it absolutely should be condemned by everyone. HANNITY: I know you're working on 2020, but an interesting phenomenon is happening. We do have this important election. Things seem to have shifted dramatically especially in the senate races. I worry more about the house. I hope people pay very close attention if they vote for a congressman, they're voting for Pelosi. Vote for the senate. TRUMP: Right. HANNITY: When you see real trouble for Claire McCaskill who's been exposed, Bredesen has been exposed. Dean Heller is doing better in Nevada. Krysten Sinema is collapsing in Arizona. Heidi Heitkamp is collapsing. Joe Donnelly is in trouble. What do you say to people about these house races who are more concerned tonight? TRUMP: Well, the entire midterm election is so, so important. And that's why you see the president out on the road like he's been. And I think he's having a real impact. You just mentioned all these races, Sean, this is making an impact with people across the country who are voting in the midterm elections. And again, often times the midterms are not as exciting for people to get out and vote in. Often time people stay home. You cannot stay home on November 6th. Early voting on North Carolina starts tomorrow. I was there all day today, campaigning with some great candidates down in North Carolina. You've got to get out, you've got to vote early, and you've got to vote for Republicans. HANNITY: Their agenda is simple, impeachment, endless investigation. They want. TRUMP: Take back the tax cuts. HANNITY: Open borders, but don't say it. Impeachment, don't say it. Keep Obamacare. That's the whole agenda. TRUMP: And socialism, of course. I mean, it's crazy what the Democrats are proposing. And I hope everybody is paying attention because we have to keep the house and the senate in the midterm. HANNITY: All right. Lara Trump, thank you for being with us. And -- on behalf of so many, we apologize our first lady deserves so much better and it's sad. All right. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh who will be on this show for the full hour, Thursday night, will explain what happens if the Democrats do take the house. And, yeah, we have one more announcement tonight, a lot of announcements this week. Straight ahead. HANNITY: Early today on this program, Rush Limbaugh had a stark warning to what's coming if the Democrats do win the house three weeks from tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: It's easily predictable. It's a no- brainer. But I'm here to tell you that the objective is going to be to force Trump out of Washington, D.C. as soon as they can. They don't want to wait for reelection campaign in 2020. They don't want that. They're going to do everything they can to make sure that the Trump administration essentially ceases to exist in January of 2019, if they win the house. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Just a reminder, I will be interviewing Rush Limbaugh for the full hour right here in this program, Thursday night, and we hope you'll join us at 9 Eastern, Thursday. And we do have another big announcement, this weekend I'll be in Texas and around the Beaumont and Houston areas and it will be doing interviews and a town hall with Senator Ted Cruz, and much, much more. We're going to air some of that video on Nonday night. An important race in Texas, Ted Cruz, that's happening this Saturday with more details to come. We will always be fair and balance. We're not the destroy Trump media. And let not your heart be troubled. The news continues, why? Because there she is in the swamp, in the sewer. Load-Date: October 17, 2018 End of Document Massive Migrant Caravan Is Going To The Borders To Ask For Asylum And Trump Threatens To Cut Off Aid To Honduras And Guatemala; Democrats Are Selling Violence Tactics To Win In The Midterm Elections In November; Criticisms Of White Woman Who Voted For President Trump Examined; Secretary Of State Mike Pompeo Meets With Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman Regarding Disappearance Of Journalist; Texas Democratic Senate Candidate Beto O'Rourke's DWI Examined Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 16, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7804 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Newt Gingrich, Rachel Campos-Duffy Guests: Mark Krikorian, Tom Homan, Jose Aristimuno, Jamila Bey, Victor Davis Hanson Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: We will always be fair and balanced. We are not the destroy Trump media and let not your heart be troubled. The news continues, right, because there she is in the swamp and the sewer. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Will you stop saying it. Every time you say there she is then you go right to sewer or swamp. That is just not, you know, that is not really -- HANNITY: Well, that's where you are. Look behind you. INGRAHAM: That's not a ringing endorsement. HANNITY: That is the biggest swamp. INGRAHAM: OK. You know, you're not exactly in the gutter there in New York. Give me the break out here. HANNITY: No, I'm not. INGRAHAM: Hannity, by the way, are you buying barbecue because I'm coming on this trip. You go to all the fun trips -- HANNITY: Oh, by the way, you're going to join me on the program I hear tomorrow. INGRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: They're going to have this out tomorrow. You bring your best game. INGRAHAM: Oh no, this is not even -- I'll come with, you know, both hands tide behind my back, no problem. OK, I'll just save it all for tomorrow then. I'm saving it. I know I use that line. It sounds like Limbaugh (ph). Oops, didn't mean to do that. It's embedded here. HANNITY: With half my brain tied behind my back. Rush is going to grill us Thursday. INGRAHAM: All right. Great show tonight as always. HANNITY: Have a good show. INGRAHAM: All right. I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington, D.C. Tonight it is just, can you believe it, 21 days before the midterm election. We have a lot of ground to cover for you. The American voter, you have a lot to consider, so much on the line. The largest caravan in a decade approaches our southern border. The president's response and mine are ahead. Plus, the new tactics of the left might not be so new (inaudible) 1968? Well, former speaker Newt Gingrich on the parallels between that faithful year for the Democratic Party and what is happening today. And we will have a new series for you tonight, "Hidden Scandals," how the media's coverage of certain Democratic candidates really amounts to a cover-up. And tonight, our analysis of a Texas senatorial candidate, of course, Beto O'Rourke, you want to stick around for that. Victor Davis Hanson is also here. But first, the midterm border rush and possible electoral crush. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. As our cable competitors are devoting hours of coverage today to the president's tweets about Stormy Daniels, voters I think are just tuning im out. Why? Because the voters are smarter than the media thinks they are, as usual. Americans outside the leftist activist bubble are focused on issues that actually affect their daily lives -- pocketbook issues. Like the stock market jumped 500 points today. Tech stocks way up -- that's good for your 401(k). And the Labor Department reported that there are 7 million job openings currently in the United States. And our industrial output is surging, all fantastic news. But Americans also see some trouble on the horizon as well. Lawlessness at the border that no advance society should tolerate. Now, we have another mass of people, as many as 4,000 I am told, another so-called migrant caravan making its way from Honduras to the United States. And President Trump has had just about enough. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We have the dumbest immigration laws in the world. The world laughs at us, but we are getting them changed. We need some more Republicans. We need some votes. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I will say. And for many years voters have been telling politicians, enforce the border and close immigration loopholes. In fact even on the issue of legal immigration, and a lot of people don't know this, the country is not clamoring for big increases. Check this out. Only 28 percent of Americans want immigration levels increased. Twenty-nine percent of Americans want them decreased. Now (inaudible) as you see want them just to remain the same. Of course most politicians continue to just ignore the wishes of the people, so what they do is they continue to expand things like distant relative chain migration. They refuse to allocate money to the building of the entire wall of the southern border. And they refuse to pass legislation to allow for immediate border turn backs of anyone crossing the border illegally. And of course, Democrats are just against all tightening of the current ridiculous rules for asylum. Donald Trump won the presidency in large part because he wouldn't accept the status quo on immigration. And as usual, he was five steps ahead of most every Republican congressman on the issue. In July, Gallup found that Americans identified immigration as the top issue for them going into the midterms. Last month it was the second most important issue tied with just general economic problems. Democrats thought, I think, that a focus on the difficult issue of child separation, a practice that the administration has now ended, that that would turn out voters and get Democrats or Latino voters really excited to get out there. But I don't think it is working for them. And remember back in 2016, the Latino voter turnout rate did not increase. Despite Trump's push for the wall and a lot of stronger immigration enforcement. And of course Hispanic Americans are themselves disproportionately affected by the impact of illegal immigration, and their neighborhoods and their communities. And ditto for black Americans. The good news is that as the second caravan drama unfolds, it turns out that some establishment Republicans are waking up to the wisdom of Trump. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: It makes the immigration debate more on Trump's terms. You know, there is no right to come to America. We can have rules about who comes and where is Mexico? Mexico needs to help us because the last time I checked you just can't walk from Guatemala to here without going to Mexico. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, yes, and today the president warned the president of Honduras. If a large caravan of people heading to the U.S. is not stopped and brought back to Honduras, he's going to cut off foreign aid. Vice President Pence has separately warned the presidents of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador to tell their people do not make the dangerous trek to America saying the U.S. will not tolerate this blatant disregard for our border and sovereignty. By the way, Honduras is on track to receive $65.7 million in foreign aid from the U.S. in the upcoming fiscal year, 2019. But back to the midterms, as frustrated as so many of us are with the Republicans and what they failed to do at the border, well, the cause may be totally lost if the open borders Democrats take the House while the president is focused on important things like abolishing the illegal immigrant gang MS-13, Democrats want to abolish ICE. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We need to rebuild our immigration system from top to bottom starting by replacing ICE with something that reflects our morality. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We can replace it and we can replace it with a humane agency that is directed towards safe passage -- (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: --instead of the direction of the criminalization. (ED VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Safe passage? Everybody come on in. And Warren and Ocasio-Cortez are not alone of course. There are a lot more like them that believe the same thing. Again, the choice could not be clearer for the midterm voters. There so much on the line for America. We'll Trump get the funding for his wall? Will the mass migration from other poor countries in Central America be stopped at all? Ever! Will travesty such as birthright citizenship finally be ended? Will we mandate, e-verify to penalize businesses who gain the system to keep American wages low? Of this my friends you can be sure, your views on immigration will have zero impact and zero influence on a House dominated by Democrats who want to replace you, the American voters, with newly amnestied citizens and an ever increasing number of chain migrants. If Republicans choose to unite, however, behind the presidents immigration policy, the way they just did in the Kavanaugh fight, this will stoke voter enthusiasm even further ahead of the all too important midterm elections. And that is THE ANGLE. All right, joining us now with reaction here in studio with me Mark Krikorian is the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, Tom Homan, former acting director of ICE, and Jose Aristimuno, is a Democratic strategist and former DNC deputy press secretary. All right fellows, just a moment ago the president anticipating THE ANGLE - - I'm sure -- tweeted about this very issue saying "We have today informed the countries of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador that if they allow their citizens or others to journey through their borders and up to the United States with the intention of entering our country illegally, all payments made to them will stop." In other words end. Tom Homan, you are the one with the most experience in this issue. Is the president right here in his approach? TOM HOMANS, FORMER ACTING DIRECTOR OF ICE: Yes, I think he needs to throw down the gauntlet. I mean, we give these countries a lot of aid. I think that the other issue that the president should be aware of is that the remittances running to the billions of dollars. These countries get billions of dollars a year from their citizens who live in this country illegally that sends money back to those countries and that amounts to billions. So, that's another thing needed to address. But when it comes to this caravan, as I said last night, the president needs to work with Mexico. Mexico needs to stop them on their southern border not issuing transit visas and turn them around right there in the southern border so they don't get to the United States. INGRAHAM: Jose, U.S. foreign aid the Honduras -- it is not a lot compared to what we give to other countries but it is not chump change either. Put up the graphics, 2017 we gave them $144 million, natural disaster that year; 2018, $52 million, this year $65 million projected. Guatemala, they're trying to stop the caravan from coming through to Guatemala. It hasn't worked so far. In 2017, $229 million, again natural disaster; 2018, $76 million, 2019, $69 million projected. What about our sovereign right to protect our borders from what amounts to an organized effort to crush or rush the border right before the midterm election? JOSE ARISTIMUNO, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: First and foremost and with all respect to Tom, let me just say that it makes no sense for the president of the United States to threaten Honduras and say hey, I'm not going to give you this money if you let these people go through Guatemala and Mexico what have you. It makes no sense. Less money for Honduras, less money for Central America? What's going to happen? More crime in those countries and the caravans are just going to get bigger. It makes no sense. I don't think the president thought this through and just happens almost every day every time he tweets. He should stop tweeting altogether. But to your point, Laura, these people under international law and on U.S. law have the legality to go to our borders and seek asylum. They can do this and they should do this because as we know every single year, a percentage of those people can actually stay in this country. These are people who are fleeing horrible, horrible conditions. INGRAHAM: How many other countries exist on the earth where people would like to flee generally a corrupt government? Because on Honduras and Guatemala, they've had corruption (inaudible) throughout the entire region for so many years. So is that really is the standard and that seems to be what the standard is today, de facto, then we better prepare. I mean, this is going to be a wholesale migration from Venezuela where we have seen 2 million people flee. Ultimately they can get from Venezuela up to Central America, up to Mexico and the United States, and you would be OK with that? ARISTIMUNO: They should have a right to do so. I'm not saying every single -- I'm not saying every single -- let me be clear, I'm not for open borders. I don't think every single migrant -- I am not saying every migrant who crosses the border should have a legality to do this, but they should have a right to at least be heard, that's what I'm saying. INGRAHAM: We don't have the facilities to hear millions of millions of people which if that is the standard we'll ultimately (inaudible). But Mark Krikorian, you know, we are a giving country, we are a compassionate country. We do help people in need all across the globe. On CNN today, this reporter who is Leyla Santiago, who's covering the migration, she is very pro-migrant, but nevertheless she made this point following on what Jose said. (BEGION VIDEO CLIP) LELYA SANTIAGO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Many of the programs that this money pays for, those programs are to try to prevent violence, to try to help people with poverty. So, if that aid is taken away, the people who run those programs will tell you that you will likely see more immigration. You will likely see larger numbers at the U.S. border. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Mark. MARK KRIKORIAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, CENTER FOR IMMIGRATION STUDIES: There are plenty of ways we can put pressure on these countries. I mean, really, what is the point of being a superpower if you can't try to get a tiny little country in your backyard to do what you want? And honestly, the most important target of this kind of pressure is actually not Central American countries, it is Mexico because they are all passing through Mexico. Mexico is the much more functional state. It is wealthier, its government works better which is why Mexico really is responding, I think, to the pressure because I just saw on the way over here, they are sending large numbers of federal police, (inaudible) down to southern Mexico to stop these people from getting over. And that is the key before they ever get here. INGRAHAM: Our relationship with Mexico with the incoming president AMLO is actually going to improve. This deal with the new NAFTA U.S.-Mexico- Canadian agreement (inaudible) it is actually a good new start. I don't think they want to muck that up now. Tom Homan, and this is right up your alley. August 2017, the border arrest between the ports of entry, and just in the month of August 2017 over 22,293. Let's put up the graphic. August 2018, 37,544, and these are people crossing between the ports of entry. That is a 68 percent increase, Tom, from year to year in a month. Monthly tab, year to year. HOMAN: Then why would they stop? I mean, you got the Ninth Circuit says we can't detain families more than20 days. We got a judge saying you can't separate, then we got a judge -- (inaudible) we're separate, we can't deport. We can't detain enough of them because Congress has not funded ICE properly. ICE is asking 20,000 (inaudible) 40,000 and to get back to my friend here, as far as they have a right to claim asylum. People who leave Honduras have passed through Guatemala and Mexico. They are no longer in fear of persecution in that country. So this isn't about escaping fear and persecution, they can make asylum in Mexico. This is about getting to the United States. And 80 percent of those people that claim fear lose their cases in the immigration court. They're taking advantage of that low threshold in the system. They're taking advantage -- 80 percent, not just a fact, stone cold fact. INGRAHAM: Under Obama they were turned back to 80 percent. HOMAN: Eighty percent and (inaudible) ARISTIMUNO: How would they know? Tom, how would they know if they don't get to a border and they actually get to be heard? How would they know? HOMAN: Again, they pass through two other countries before they get to the United States. Many claim asylum in Mexico to escape fear and persecution in Honduras. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: It's not on international law. It does not count as a country where you can't claim asylum. I know that is a fact that Mexico might want to change that, but Mexico is a place where you are allowed -- and they have actually accepted asylum request by some of the migrants, not that many. I want to talk a little bit about who is funding the caravan. There is a question in the Honduran foreign ministry, corruption everywhere there, but they identified today, foreign ministry spokesman cited political sectors as culpable, unidentified political influences. Somebody is funding these caravans. There is no way that these people who are the poorest of the poor can afford, what is it, $4,000 to $7,000 Tom, per migrant per crossing with the cartels you got to pay, with the human traffickers sometimes are involved in getting the payoffs. Who is paying for this? Someone is paying for this or they are selling themselves or their family members into some type of slavery of some period of time to pay for this. Does that not raise some questions here? HOMAN: I think it raises the question. I think it is more important (inaudible) we need to educate American people on this by not controlling our borders, by not controlling this caravan because this caravan comes across (inaudible) because all the loopholes that Congress (inaudible) fix are going to be released. It will entice more people to come. The money, we are bankrolling the very criminal organizations that smuggle these people, are the same organizations that smuggle drugs, smuggle guns, and have killed (inaudible). So this -- INGRAHAM: Congress has to act. Congress has got to act! The president I think is doing about as much as he can here. It puts the migrants lives in danger. It puts children's lives in danger and it helps the cartels become more and more powerful. Jose, I want to play for you, this is Rafael Hernandez who is a Honduran immigrant. He is one of the members of the caravan. Now, this is in Spanish but you can read the subtitles about why he is moving with this massive -- massive fellow Hondurans. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE (text): The reason for being part of this march is to be part of the American dream, to improve ourselves again, for our children, for our family. The motivation for us to migrate are the many shortages we face in our country. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK. I understand that. Pretty much a lot of people want to come to United States but he is not sighting (ph) a credible fear of persecution. He basically just wants to come to America because probably a lot of his family members are already there. Friends that told him when you come here I'll get you a job. That is not a potential asylum. ARISTIMUNO: And I agree with you 100 percent. So, we should do a better job as a government to amplify and to communicate to other countries, to know, hey, it is not easy to get asylum. You can come and you can try but most folks are not going to get it. So, I don't -- INGRAHAM: -- stop asylum applications at the ports of entry. ARISTIMUNO: That's crazy. INGRAHAM: Well, ports of entry make it more dangerous and they have to make that 1,000-mile trek. Why not to apply from their home country? Mark? ARISTIMUNO: They don't have that luxury. KRIKORIAN: Yes., See, the thing is you are saying that they're not going to get asylum, and most of them, even under Obama, 80 percent of people who went through the -- INGRAHAM: Were denied. KROKORIAN: -- were denied. But the point is, they are already in the United States. They been working may be for several years already while their case has been going on. And when they are finally denied at the end, they just don't show up and nobody is looking for them. So the whole point is to get in. INGRAHAM: They get here and then it's like get out of Guatemala or Honduras free card, correct. You get to stay, you're never going to be deported unless maybe you commit a violent crime, and even then sometimes you can come back, and so they know they're going to be able to stay. HOMAN: Less than five percent of family (inaudible) case immigration have been removed. And the gentleman you saw being interviewed, the reason he didn't use the asylum claim because he has been coached by the criminal organization in Mexico. Once he gets to Mexico, believe me, he will be trained exactly what to say to CIS to (inaudible). INGRAHAM: Everyone seems to say the exact same lines, like you start looking at the lines, they are all the same lines. My friends, thank you so much. And for more on why Trump won and how the GOP could do it again, grab a copy of my new paperback out, "Busting the Barricades: What I Saw at the Populous Revolt." Now in bookstores everywhere, you'll love it. And up next, Newt Gingrich here in studio to explain how closely today's Democratic Party might resemble what we saw from some of them in the late 1960s. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Twenty-one days until the midterms and Democrats look to be selling, I don't know, something new like 1968 all over again. The more you see the visuals, the tactics, the lack of any tangible policy prescriptions, the more you start to realize that they are embracing the same themes -- victim culture, mobs versus jobs, stripping away law and order, hatred fo the president, and so on and so on. Hear with his thoughts on this and the segment we just talked about, the mass of humanity crushing our border, former speaker of the house, Newt Gingrich. He is also author of "The New York Times" best seller, "Trumps America." Mr. Speaker, it's so great to have you in studio. Now, we know -- I know you want to talk about what we just talked about first so I'll let you hit that because I think this immigration issue is not the most important issue facing the country today in the eyes of the voters, economy and that, one of the top two or three. And Donald Trump has always been ahead of everyone else on this issue and now we have another scene of lawlessness coming up through Mexico and Honduras. NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: First of all, I think Kevin McCarthy has offered the best bill and committed to bring it up in December to really do whatever it takes to strengthen the border. But let me just make one key point about all this. This is insanity. No country -- imagine it was your home and people down the street said, you know, I like your home. I think I want to come and claim I need refuge. And 6,000 people show up to your home and say, I really hope you'll take care of me. It is crazy. And we ought to adopt a policy that says to the Mexicans, nobody is crossing the border. So, if you don't want to stop them coming in from Honduras, they are going to be in Mexico. And I would do whatever it takes to control the border. Period. End of story. INGRAHAM: Congress has to act. They have to screen the asylum laws. They've been -- I mean, I'm glad McCarthy has come along to the gospel here. GINGRICH: The asylum law won't necessarily work if you actually control the border because they don't enter U.S. space. INGRAHAM: But they can walk in through a port of entry and claim asylum under current law. We have to change that whole process. GINGRICH: Well, I'm for changing that, but I'm also for saying that the ports of entry if necessary, if Mexico won't cooperate in stopping these people, it will be amazingly difficult for anything to get through the ports of entry. INGRAHAM: That would get their attention pretty quick. GINGRICH: You know, in about three days. INGRAHAM: Anyway, but you agree this is a big issue and a big opportunity for Republicans. GINGRIUCH: It is the fate of the United States. You open this country -- I have Gallup did a world survey, 165 million people would like to come to the U.S. You couldn't possibly observe that. Even left-wing cuckoos can't believe that. INGRAHAM: Americans don't want at the Gallup poll and let's say Americans don't want it. All right, Newt, 1968, one of our mutual friends (inaudible) and I were talking the other day, one of the great guys in radio and one of my old, old friends. He said, do you see some of the parallels going on here? It looks that they're going to move right from 1972 and nominate a far left guy, of course George McGovern in 1972, but before that it was a build up of lawlessness and a lot of violent hatred. GINGRICH: Actually (inaudible) in Des Moines last -- look, the hard left -- INGRAHAM: And quite surely (inaudible). GINGRICH: Which is now much of the left is committed to believing that they have the right to bully you, to attack you, to trash you. Antifa has said publicly, this is a hard left group, that they are intent to go in, destroy offices if they fell like it. And you just said in Portland, people are being harassed while the police sit there and watching. So people need to understand, the left today, the Democrats today stand for breaking up the whole process. Abraham Lincoln said it brilliantly at Cooper Union when he said, "you will rule or you will ruin" (inaudible) southern slave owners. Well, the modern American left resembles those southern slave owners and their commitment to rule or ruin. And that is why you are seeing scratching the Supreme Court door. INGRAHAM: Favorite image of the year. GINGRICH: Yes. And my goal is to ensure that the next 40 years, the closest they get to a Supreme Court seat is scratching on the door. INGRAHAM: Well, do you think this is a moment for Republicans, they united behind the Kavanaugh confirmation and look at what happened. The country was motivated and they are excited. This isn't fair. We wish all the best of all these women but it is not fair. Basic principle of fairness. GINGRICH: I had a woman call to me last night who said, she had been a Democrat. She's 75 years old, she has switched parties after Kavanaugh and every member of her family in four states had switched and she said she was disgusted. This was no longer the party of John F. Kennedy. INGRAHAM: Well, again, we have a situation where America and a midterm cycle usually, you know, you see the party in power lose seats. There have been a few occasions in which that did not happen. When was that? GINGRICH: That's right. Well, it didn't happen in 1934, it didn't happen in 1998, didn't happen in 2002. I think this year we're going to gain seats in the Senate for sure. And I think the way that things are developing right now because of Kavanaugh, I mean, these people are disgusted with the Democratic Party and a little frightened by it. I think we might actually shock them in the House. INGRAHAM: Project Veritas did on one of their undercover sting videos, and this involving -- yes, but this involving Claire McCaskill and a staffer talking about whether she is really, you know, open-minded on certain issues. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You were saying that you think she's more progressive than she lets on. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think so too. I think she's a lot more open-minded to like alternative routes to things but she can't be open about that. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because this is a 19 point Trump state. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because she would completely isolate the moderate Republicans. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's like we have to lie to get elected. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Essentially. (END VIDEO CLIP) GINGRICHL: Well they do have to lie to get elected, that is why Bredesen is lying in Tennessee, that is why McCaskill is lying, that's why Sinemai is lying, that's why Heitkamp is lying. I mean, go down the list - why Donnelly (ph) is lying. Look, there is a simple test every American can apply to your candidate for senator. Are you going to vote for Chuck Schumer? If you're going to vote for Chuck Schumer, you're a liberal. Period. End of story. I mean including (inaudible). People mostly (inaudible) the mansion. If you honestly believe what you claim you believe, how come you're not voting for McConnell? INGRAHAM: One also mentioned, you know, voted for the disastrous Obamacare, which was a complete disaster. GINGRICH: Of all these folks running back home, they say I'm really not the person you thought I was in Washington and I didn't mean to do it. And please elect me again. They just know how to say them straight up. If you're going to vote for Schumer you are a left-winger. You're putting left-wingers in power and therefore I have to vote against you. INGRAHAM: Yes, I know we have these people like in the 7th district of Virginia, Dave Brat (ph) of course, the unseeded Eric (inaudible), one of the big signs of this populist revolution coming when that happened. I mean, that's a tight race. That could go either way. And I look at the Virginia -- Commonwealth of Virginia -- you can't choose the Democrats here. I mean, that is going to take your state backwards. You want to go forward. Dave Brat (ph) and so many people like him are supporting Trump. This is why the economy is growing. This is why we're seeing optimism growing. GINGRICH: Well, that's why the line you used last week are the choices is jobs or mobs is real. I mean, let's be clear. We have the lowest black unemployment in history, we have the lowest Latino unemployment in history. We have the largest number of unfilled jobs in history. The economy is growing. And the fact is, the Democrats promised to throw all of that away based on their socialist ideology. INGRAHAM: And the left still thinks that devoting hours of coverage to Michael Avenatti and Stormy Daniels, and the president sent a tweet out and a phrase which I don't think he should have done, but they think the voters are going to turn out because of a tweet. They still don't get it, Newt. GINGRICH: No, they don't get it. But people ought to look at this stuff and say to yourself, do you want a party which has been delivered results for the last two years, or do you want a party dedicated to resistance? Because that is really what the choice is. And I think the average American is going to look at what is happening, and I think they're going to conclude that in fact Republicans have been doing a pretty darn good job, and the Democrats are, frankly, kind of scary. INGRAHAM: Results versus resistance, Newt Gingrich, we love having you. GINGRICH: Always fun. INGRAHAM: Thanks so much. And the Democrats were sure that Hillary Clinton could leave them to victory with a coalition of women that included white women, but when that didn't happen, they became the new enemy. We reveal the examples, next. INGRAHAM: When 52 percent of them voted for Trump on election day, 2016, the left found a new target to deride, white women, an odd voting bloc to alienate ahead of the midterm elections, don't you think? In the last couple of weeks, though, they've been called white privilege apologists. A "New York Times" opinion piece noted that they will defend their privilege to the death. Following the Kavanaugh votes, Susan Collins and others supported the basic principle of due process were called, quote, rape apologists by the women's march. And who can forget earlier this year when Hillary Clinton claimed white married women only voted for Trump because of their husbands. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, (D) FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We don't do well with married white women. And part of that is an identification with the Republican Party, and an ongoing pressure to vote the way that your husband, your boss, your son, whoever, believes you should. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me now to react, FOX News contributor Rachel Campos- Duffy along with speaker and activate Jamila Bey. Jamila, is it wise to alienate a voting bloc that is pretty big? White women? Some of the things that are being said, it is like a whole voting block stigmatized based on their race. I thought we were supposed to get away from that? JAMILA BEY, POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Clearly. You're right, we are supposed to get away from that. I don't think it is an issue of stigmatizing and entire voting bloc. I think it is looking at people who don't vote in line with the particular group we are talking about. So if we're talking about the left, which is a multitude of people who just left of center, there are a lot of opinions. There's a lot of diversity. And they are talking about the white women who voted for Donald Trump. They're not talking about all white women, and I don't think -- INGRAHAM: White women can't vote for conservative? BEY: Every American should have the right to vote for whoever he or she -- INGRAHAM: I agree with you. Let me play this. Michelle Bernard, who was a -- she is great. I'm sure you'd say she's great. I don't know her. She made an interesting if not controversial point on AM Joy. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHELLE BERNARD, POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I do not see any reason for Democrats to believe that after the Brett Kavanaugh hearings we are going to see a flood of white women, particularly Republican red state feminists, come out and vote for Democrats. Whatever is going to happen in the midterm elections, it is going to be because of the vote of black women and other women of color. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Rachel Campos-Duffy, your reaction to that? RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I think this whole thing come everything we have seen over the last three weeks, Brett Kavanaugh, Kanye West, the total meltdown by the left about that, the lawsuit in Harvard between the Asian-Americans who are suing over affirmative action at Harvard, and even Senator Warren with her clinging to the idea that she still is this hope, that she is Native-American, what we are all seeing is the death throes of identity politics. It is finally, I think, reaching the ends of its game where it has become so ridiculous to tell people because they are women or because they are black or because they are Asian or white how they should think and how they should vote. People are rejecting this en masse. Frankly, I think it is why they voted for Donald Trump in 2016, because as crazy as some people might think he was and how unpredictable and how untraditional he ran his campaign, they felt this was the last hope to try and break this down. I think it's starting to break down. And I think that's why you saw what you saw this whole week, especially with Kanye. And now you see they are going after white women and telling them that they are traitors of their gender. It is ridiculous. INGRAHAM: Here's something I wanted to read to Jamila. This is from "The New York Times." The headline is "White Women, Come Get Your People" by Alexis Grenell. This October 6th. This is part of it. "White women benefit from patriarchy by trading on their whiteness to monopolize resources from mutual gain. So it seems that white women are expected to support the patriarchy, marrying within their racial group, reproducing whiteness, and even minimizing violence against their own bodies. So white women who voted for Trump did so to prop up their whiteness." I have got to say, that is one of the wildest things. I read a lot of wild things. I don't know anyone who thinks that way and I don't know any women who are smart, working at home or working out of the home who vote because of their husbands or think about a patriarchy monopolizing their thoughts. Jamila, you seem a purely smart person. How is that not really condescending to women? BEY: Let's be real aside. People tend to -- aside from the Carville marriage, Carville-Matalin, most people marry people who think similarly. CAMPOS-DUFFY: Why do you assume that the women are following the men? BEY: I'm not making that assumption at all. CAMPOS-DUFFY: I know lots of marriage where the men can agree with the women. BEY: What I am saying is it is not a hard point to make that like marries like. You tend to marry somebody you think like. If that is the argument that was made in a "New York Times" piece, it's not -- INGRAHAM: It's an obsession with the whiteness. Again, I just think the obsession with race is not breaking through I don't think to a lot of people. They just want a better life. They don't want the obsession, as we saw the other day with Stacey Abrams in Georgia where she said, I represent black, white, disabled, differently-abled, pacific islander, and then she said at the end, documented and undocumented. Everything is too hyphenated and everything is too segmented. I think people want to be more unified and more hopeful about just being together as Americans like we were after 9/11. Like what is wrong with that? BEY: I certainly don't hope we have to see a terrorist attack on American soil again before we recognize that -- INGRAHAM: I'm just saying -- CAMPOS-DUFFY: We don't have to go back. BEY: I know you're not saying that, but I'm saying we can find that in other ways. INGRAHAM: I bet if you and I say down for a half-hour we could find five major things we actually agree on, about kids, about conservation, about how to treat animals. I think that's a lot of stuff we agree on. And Rachel Campos- Duffy, I think, though, President Trump does have to be careful. The women's vote is sensitive. Tonality matters to women. The tone does matter. I don't think the horse-faced thing was smart. I have to say that wasn't my cup of tea. CAMPOS-DUFFY: It was grotesque. It was grotesque. It was unnecessary. That said, we need to get away from talking about gender and skin color and who is more oppressed and who is the bigger victim. We need to talk about ideas. And we don't need to go back to 9/11, Laura. What we need to do is go back to what MLK said, which is we need to be about the content of our character and not the color of our skin. That is the America people want back again. And I think that they are voting that way, and they are responding to that because they are tired. They're just exhausted from identity politics. INGRAHAM: I think we have to end on that, unfortunately. But what a fantastic conversation from both of you, Jamila and Rachel, thank you so much. And the new cycle, by the way, has in many ways you could say been breaking towards Trump lately. Victor Davis Hanson is here to explain exactly why that is, plus his reaction to the suggestions that President Trump is somehow to blame of the Saudi journalist being killed. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Are Democrats destroyed what was shaping up to be a really huge blue wave? The approaching caravan has put the focus back on immigration, an issue the Democrats have completely ceded to the president as far as I can tell. And the Kavanaugh battle revealed the left's shameless tactics. And the calls, of course, for incivility from Eric Holder, Cory Booker, Hillary Clinton, they show they care more about promoting anger than solving problems. Kick them when they are down. Joining is now to discuss, Victor Davis Hanson, senior at the Hoover Institution. Victor, it is great to have you with us. What do you make of the recent political calculations we have seen from the Democrats, many of them of course with 2020 ambitions? VICTOR DAVIS HANSON, HOOVER INSTITUTION: It is almost like they're wolves I wolves' clothing. I thought that they would at least try to disguise their empathies and politics before the midterm. But your past segment about white this and white this and white supremacy and white women, this is a time after the 2016 lessons that you should be appealing to the white working class if you want to win those states and yet they're not doing that. We saw during the Kavanaugh hearings, why not protect American jurisprudence. We all support due process. But when we get done with that circus it was as if the Democrats wanted to be on the side of the French Revolution. And then when we had all these demonstrations, Antifa and scratching like maenads on the Supreme Court doors, you would think that somebody in the party would speak up against that. But instead if you collate what Cory Booker said or what Eric Holder said or even Hillary Clinton, it was almost as if these people were seen as the paramilitary wing of the Democratic Party. And then the height of silliness, why now would Elizabeth Warren come out when you have this high profile trial, suit by Asian-Americans against Harvard in the same city, and then proclaim that she is one percent, maybe, one percent at best and therefore all along really was a genuine minority. She should have apologized. And then it is all topped off by this caravan, and what are the Democrats going to do? Are they going to say let them in because they have a right for refugee appeals or something? Anybody knows in their right mind that you can't have a nation when people storm across the southern border by intent and they are empowered by the Mexican government. So all of these issues -- INGRAHAM: It's a huge plus for the Republicans, Victor. The president is so far ahead of everybody else on this issue of immigration, all the other politician. He sees it. He knows it's a problem. He wants to fix it. He is very frustrated with Congress, as he should be. But I also want to talk about foreign policy, Victor. That is really your forte in many ways. This Khashoggi murder at the consulate in Turkey, the Saudi consulate, there are actually liberals blaming this on, somehow on the chaotic foreign policy of President Trump. And he addressed these general issues tonight with Trish Regan. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You will start here, what is happening? Turkey is looking at it very strongly. We're all looking at it together. But Turkey and Saudi Arabia are looking at it very strongly. And it depends whether or not the king or the crown prince knew about it, in my opinion. Number one, what happened, but whether or not they knew about it. If they knew about it, that would be bad. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I don't think most American voters, aside from the barbarity of this, the American voters, this isn't the issue that motivates them on the election time. It might be something we have to deal with, but it is extremely complicated. HANSON: Yes. To paraphrase Winston Churchill about the Soviet Union, it's a riddle wrapped in an enigma inside a mystery. When you go into an embassy you expect that to be a sanctuary, and we are living in 2018, not the medieval period where you draw and quarter bodies. So that is stunning and shocking. But on the other hand, and also Mr. Khashoggi was a U.S. resident, he went to university in the United States, he wrote op-eds, so there was a lot of drama to this. But on the other hand, a lot of our shock has been that -- we are not shocked by what Saudi Arabia does. That is embedded with our relationship with Saudi Arabia. That said, what we're worried about in geostrategic terms is we've had an alignment now with the Gulf monarchies, the moderate Arab states, Israel, believe it or not, to confront the existential treat of a nuclear Iran and its terrorist appendages like Hezbollah or Hamas or people in Syria. So we don't want to jeopardize that new alignment. And yet we don't want to condone it, and I think Trump is trying to square that circle. It is very difficult to do. INGRAHAM: It is a balancing act, VDH, and the president is trying to do it. It is not easy. But the idea that he can be blamed. Richard Haas was like, at some point an amoral foreign policy becomes an immoral foreign policy. U.S. foreign policy under Trump has reached such a point -- we won't even bother with that. But the Council on Foreign Relations is not exactly I think speaking for most Americans. Thank you so much, Victor, we really appreciate it. And coming up, we have a new series for you just ahead, hidden scandals revealing with the networks will not tell you about certain candidates. Our expose in part of Texas Democratic Senate candidate Beto O'Rourke, next. INGRAHAM: Now to a new segment ahead of the midterms, Hidden Scandals, what the media are not telling you about certain candidates. With the midterm elections just three weeks away the media are picking teams. And one of their favorite players this cycle is Beto O'Rourke, the Democrat darling challenging Senator Ted Cruz for his Senate seat in Texas. Outlets have published glowing profile after profile, fawning all over the new lone star star leftist before he even won a primary. On February 19th "The New York Times" affectionately dubbed Beto the lone star longshot. "TIME" magazine in May said Beto O'Rourke is on a long, hard road. But they described O'Rourke as handsome and charismatic. This past August, "Esquire" wrote "Meet the Man Democrats Hope is the Next Obama." Going on to ask, "Is this the man who could save the world from Trump?" And finally "Vanity Fair" went to the place that sends a shiver up any Democrats leg, calling him Kennedy-esque. As it turns out, Beto, whose name is Robert Francis, is more Kennedy-esque than we thought. What those features failed to fully examine is O'Rourke's 1998 DWI, the details of which were much worse than previously reported. Now, the news, details that were finally revealed in a August 31st "Houston Chronicle" piece. Beto had this to say when confronted about the incident during a debate. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BETO O'ROURKE, (D) TEXAS SENATE CANDIDATE: I did not try to leave the scene of the accident, though driving drunk, which I did, is a terrible mistake for which there is no excuse or justification or defense. And I will not try to provide one. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: But Beto's answer here directly contradicts the police report obtained by the "Houston Chronicle." In it a witness reports that O'Rourke was driving drunk at a high rate of speed, then lost control and hit a truck, sending his car careening across the center median into oncoming lanes. The witness, who stopped at the scene, later told police that O'Rourke had tried to drive away from the accident. The media's incessant puff pieces on Beto O'Rourke have scarcely mentioned a 20-year-old DWI, downplaying the incident if they even mentioned it at all. What is more, the press, which prides itself on accountability, has shown little interest in calling out the lie. All right, we'll be right back. Last bite is coming up. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL MOORE, DOCUMENTARY FILMMAKER: He outsmarted -- he may be the smartest candidate ever to run for the president of the United States. And he continues to outsmart the left and the liberals and the Democratic Party. And unless they start to respect the fact that he is going to be in office for two terms they will not prevent that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Poor Michael. Does he ever wash that baseball cap? God bless him. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the fantastic "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team, take it from here, Ms. Shannon. Load-Date: October 17, 2018 End of Document The Left's Shameful Tactics; Elizabeth Warren's DNA Test Revealed; 22 Days Until Crucial Midterm Elections; Growing Backlash From Senator Warren's DNA Test, As She Has Long Claimed That She Is Native American; Details On The Disappearance Of Journalist Khashoggi; Fox News Gathering A Statement From Fusion GPS Founder, And Glenn Simpson's Attorney Confirming That Simpson Will Not Defy Congress, Rather He Will Comply With The Subpoena And Appear On Capitol Hill Tomorrow, But Will Not Answer Questions About The Anti-Trump Dossier Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 15, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7588 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Kristin Fisher, Morgan Ortagus, Jessica Tarlov, Catherine Herridge Guests: Andy McCarthy, Sean Spicer, Dan Bongino, John Solomon, Carter Page Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker, thank you. And welcome to HANNITY. Buckle up, a busy night tonight. So, the party of identity politics, lies, smears, slander, no due process, no presumption of innocence, besmirchment, they're at again, and tonight, violence in two American cities. We have the videotape. We're going to show you how Democrats, their friends on the left are demonizing all political differences, how they have no vision for the country, fanning flames of violent protesting and lying to you, the American people, purposely. Alec Baldwin wants to overthrow the U.S. government. Robert de Niro calling the president the devil. Bernie Sanders refusing to condemn violent protesters. Meanwhile in Massachusetts, far left Senator Elizabeth Warren who once identified as a minority or Native American professor, well, she released the result of her DNA test and she's not. We'll explain. And a brand-new undercover video from Project Veritas exposing Missouri Senator Claire McCaskill that we will show you exclusively, and far left views on everything from the Second Amendment to impeaching the president and how she's trying to hide it all. Also, Hillary Clinton busy defending her husband from allegations of sexual misconduct. All of this and breaking from Saudi Arabia, Pastor Brunson, and a major setback for Stormy Daniels and Michael Avenatti. It's time for tonight's jam-packed breaking news opening monologue. All right. At this hour, we have breaking news on multiple fronts. One, Stormy Daniels' defamation lawsuit against President Trump, it has been thrown out and she has been ordered by a California judge to pay Donald Trump's legal fees. By the way, expect crickets from the Stormy Stormy, Stormy networks. Now, this is just the latest in a long series of public embarrassments for Daniel's third rate, attention craving attorney, Michael Avenatti. And meanwhile, Michael Brunson, the former American pastor who was detained in Turkey for years, thankfully, he is back home in the United States. He met with the president at the White House earlier this weekend. He will join us on this show tomorrow. Also, our last piece of breaking news surrounding Saudi Arabia, the mysterious disappearance of a journalist last seen walking into the Saudi consulate in Istanbul in Turkey. Saudi Arabia was knowingly responsible for this man's death, well, that means that President Trump was lied to and that means strong punitive action is coming against the kingdom. And now, as we speak, the Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, he is headed to Saudi Arabia in search of those answers. We'll have more on those important stories throughout the show. But start tonight, 22 days, three weeks from tomorrow until the midterm elections. Now, we have to cover what has now become, and we've been warning people, an extraordinarily dangerous political climate all across America. Earlier today, the NYPD, the New York Police Department, tweeted out this picture of the suspects who were wanted for vandalizing and starting a fight in a New York City Republican Club, breaking windows and painting anarchist symbols on the front. Let me be clear. Violent mob rule, it's got to be unacceptable in the United States of America. Those responsible, I don't care what your reviews, need to be sent to jail regardless of political affiliation. But over the weekend we saw several brutal clashes, near riots between groups in cities like New York City and Portland, Oregon. Look at this on your screen. Now, listen, this stuff has to stop, somebody's going to get hurt and somebody's going to end up getting killed. At the end of the day, we all need to be safe. This is what Rand Paul was warning about. Everyone was entitled to their opinions, we believe in free speech, the right to protest, regardless of the views, you don't have the right to throw punches. Now, likely saw with Antifa, last week, in Portland, blocking traffic, assaulting pedestrians, intimidating commuters. Settle your political disputes, you have your shot in 22 days from now. Whether this type of violence occurs on the left or the right, we know it should be the duty of elected officials and leaders to strongly condemn these actions. Now, sadly, we can also report tonight, instead of calling out, these mobs for what they are doing and this violence, they are being spurred on by demonizing political differences, vilifying people that have different points of view. It's happening from the left. This sounds like a call to arms or marching orders on behalf of some people, and it's extraordinarily dangerous. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. That's why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and/or the Senate, that's when civility can start again. REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them, and you tell them, they're not welcome anymore, anywhere. SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: Please don't just come here today and then go home, go to the Hill today. Get up and get up in the space of some Congress people. ERIC HOLDER, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL: Michelle always says that, when they go low, we go high. No. No. When they go low, we kick them. (LAUGHTER) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Get up in their faces, get a crowd and confront them and follow them into grocery stores, department stores and gas stations. Really? Kick them if they are down. Is that how we handle disagreement? You can't be civil? Oh, only if we win political elections? Bernie Sanders, the so-called socialist, refused to even call out this kind of broad mob rule and violence that we've been showing you weeks and at night after night. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Should people who are Republican officials be disrupted when they are eating a meal at a restaurant? It is appropriate for protesters to be banging on the doors of the Supreme Court? That's really what the debate is about. SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I), VERMONT: Well, I am very strongly in favor of mobilizing the American people come to stand up and fight for economic justice and social justice and racial and environmental justice. I think we have to mobilize people. I am not a great fan of being rude or disrupting activities. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So Bernie refuses to take a stand. The so-called peace-loving people of Hollywood, they are ramping up their rhetoric tonight even more. During an appearance at a New Hampshire Democratic fundraiser this week, Alec Baldwin called for an overthrow of President Trump? Oh, is this really true? Is Alec Baldwin an anarchist now? Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALEC BALDWIN, ACTOR: The way we implement change in America is through elections. We change governments here at home in an orderly and formal way. In that orderly and formal way and a lawful way, we need to overthrow the government of the United States under Donald Trump. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Overthrow the government, great words. Naturally the mainstream media awarded that professional Trump hater, they gave him a brand-new talk show on ABC broadcasting. Well, unsurprisingly, Baldwin's new gig is a spectacular failure. As a matter of fact, it set a record. His show garnered the single lowest ratings of any Sunday night network show. Even the CW beat him, cable TV beat him. And while appearing on that extremely unsuccessful new show, Trump hating actor Robert de Niro, they compared Trump and his allies to the devil. I guess we're the irredeemable, deplorable, Walmart smelling, Trump supporting, bible hugging, loving, gun-loving, you know, clinging into god, guns and religion people. Now the devil. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROBERT DE NIRO, ACTOR: If there's a point that many of these people who are now with Trump are going to be tainted for the rest of their lives. They are not going to be -- people are not going to be -- want to be around. They think they want to be with him, and it's going to make them something, but they are paying such a price. BALDWIN: They will. DE NIRO: Making a deal with the devil, it's scary. (END VDIEO CLIP) HANNITY: Yes, another peaceful liberal, same guy who compares a president to Hitler, wanting to punch the president of the United States in the face, launching into a vulgar tirade at the Tony Awards. And that rhetoric from fellow left wing turned activist Michael Moore, that's not much better. In his hyper-partisan anti-Trump documentary, guess what? Another flop at the box office, to the disappointment of many detached coastal Hollywood elites. And meanwhile, when Democrats, when they're not ramping up their over-the- top, divisive rhetoric, and lying to you, the American people, now, nowhere is this more obvious than with Massachusetts senator, Pocahontas as a president calls her, Elizabeth Warren. Over the course of her career, she has repeatedly, for long periods of time, identified herself as a minority, teaching at the University of Pennsylvania. She actually changed her ethnicity from white to Native American, at Harvard Law School. She was once described as the first woman of color. She even published her very own recipe in the Native American cookbook entitled, "Pow Wow Chow". And Warren frequently touted her Native American ancestry. Today, she published the results of her DNA study and it turns out, she's roughly 1/64 to 1/1024 Native American. And even the Cherokee Nation slammed these test results and said they were useless. By the way, today, President has this to say about Warren's extremely distant, possible connection to Native Americans. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REPORTER: Senator Warren release some or her NDA results showing that there is a strong likelihood that she has Native American. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: How much, 1/1,000? REPORTER: Do you owe her an apology? TRUMP: No, I don't. Do I owe her? She owes the country an apology. What is her percentage, 1/1,000? REPORTER: I don't have the exact number. TRUMP: Tell me when you have the percentage, tell me what the percentage - - REPORTER: What about the money that you told her you would -- TRUMP: You mean if she gets the nomination in the debate, where I was going to have it tested. I will only do that if I can test her personally, OK, that will not be something that I would enjoy doing either. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The president's right. This is obviously not a good look for Elizabeth Warren, who appears to be gearing up to challenge Trump in 2020. The president says bring it on. Senator Warren is not the only prominent Democrat, by the way, embarrassing herself tonight. Hillary Clinton once again forcing her way back into the national spotlight, this time with the defense of her husband's sexual misconduct with a 22-year-old. She was old enough, apparently. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INTERVIEWER: In retrospect, do you think Bill should have resigned in the wake of the Monica Lewinsky scandal? CLINTON: Absolutely not. INTERVIEWER: It wasn't an abuse of power? CLINTON: No, no. INTERVIEWER: There are people who look at the incidents of the `90s and they say, a president of the United States cannot have a consensual relationship with an intern. The power imbalance is too great. CLINTON: She was an adult. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: She was an adult. Where is Juanita Broaddrick? Where are those questions? Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey? Now, what we saw from Clinton, what we are seeing from Elizabeth Warren, what we are seeing from the radical left, typical of the Democrats' strategy. They lie when it benefits them politically. The double standard is so transparent. This is especially true in red states. Democrats, they're literally now being instructed by party leaders -- don't talk about immigration, open borders, eliminating ICE. Don't talk about what we really want to do. Don't ever mention impeachment. Even though, by the way, those are the pillars to the Democratic agenda, should you give them power back in 22 days. Open borders, no more ICE, they want to take the crumbs back and illuminate the tax cuts. End less investigation, it will never stop. The list is 30 items deep at this point. No more deep state investigations, no more constitutional judicial appointments, and, of course, they want to preserve Obamacare and impeach the president. In Missouri, where Democrat Senator Claire McCaskill is in a tight race for reelection, this kind of two-faced political pandering, that's on full display. While McCaskill is trying to bill herself as a moderate, which she is not, a new undercover video for Project Veritas is exposing the senator as anything but. Now, by the way, we got this tape exclusively, and as always, we report, you decide. And it features McCaskill and some of her campaign staffers talking about the senator's policies on guns and impeachment and more. Not exactly what she's campaigning on. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CLAIRE MCCASKILL (D), MISSOURI: But if we have the kind of year I think we might have, I think we could actually be in a position to get votes on this stuff on the floor and we'd get 60. McConnell knows it. He just doesn't want to put it on the floor because then it goes to the House and then sits awkward because all those House members are total NRA folks. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you would be on board with the bump stocks and -- high capacity mags? MCCASKILL: Of course. Of course. I've voted for most of those things before. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For a ban? MCCASKILL: Oh, yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But she doesn't openly go out and support groups like `Mom's Demand Action' or just like other groups that are related to that, because that could hurt, her ability to get elected. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We saw this last week in Tennessee with former Governor Bredesen, now we see it with Senator McCaskill. We reached out to her office for comment, guess what? They are not responding. A brand new political ad is casting even more doubt on McCaskill's, quote, moderate image. If the people of Missouri really knew where Claire McCaskill stands, I don't think they'd be voting for her. She is basically a vote for Chuck Schumer. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AD ANNOUNCER: Claire McCaskill, caught on tape. MCCASKILL: If we do our job in St. Louis County, you know, I can give up a few votes in the Bootheel. AD ANNOUNCER: Listen again. MCCASKILL: I can give up a few votes in the Bootheel. ANNOUNCER: No wonder Claire McCaskill votes against your gun rights, against agriculture, and against conservative judges like Brett Kavanaugh. MCCASKILL: I can give up a few votes in the Bootheel. AD ANNOUNCER: Claire McCaskill has given up on you. JOSH HAWLEY (R), MISSOURI SENATORIAL CANDIDATE: I'm Josh Hawley and I approve this message. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And give up a few votes, oh, OK. And we have even more shocking developments to report out of Arizona. Remember last week, we first showed you Democratic Senate hopeful Kyrsten Sinema once called the people of her state and her state the meth lab of democracy. In 2011, she's in Texas. She's speaking, calling her fellow Arizonans that she now wants to vote for her, calling them crazy. She also promoted events at Arizona State University, featuring a lawyer who represented the blind sheikh, who was under a federal investigation. Blind sheikh convicted of the 1995 bombing, mastermind a terrorist plots against the United States. And tonight, we are learning a new bizarre story about an antiwar rally also organized by Sinema where she was summoning -- not making this up, "Washington Examiner", go check it out yourself -- to witches. Yes, witches, to reclaim the tradition of feminist witchcraft against the Iraq war. Her opponent, Martha McSally, was defending her country. And despite Sinema's unusual and frankly seedy past, this raises very much up for grabs. War hero Martha McSally has now jumped out to a thin lead but it's a close race. Meanwhile in Missouri, Claire McCaskill, who just saw featured in the latest Project Veritas video, is also in a very important race, all winnable, in this case, against Republican Josh Hawley. It's important to remember, McCaskill enthusiastically voted against Kavanaugh, against due process, against the presumption of innocence. And in Nevada, we have Republican Dean Heller has opened up a significant lead, seven points. That is an important race, getting him reelected in Nevada. We are also focusing on 10 more critical house races. This will determine if radical Nancy Pelosi once again gets her shot at being speaker. We start in Georgia tonight, their sixth district, where Republican incumbent Karen Handel is being challenged by Lucy McBath. And in Georgia 7, GOP incumbent, Robert Woodall is in a dead heat with Democrat Carolyn Bourdeaux. In Illinois, their Sixth GOP incumbent, Peter Roskam, he has a razor-thin edge over Democrat Sean Casten. In Illinois, 12th Republican district incumbent Mike Bost has a slim lead over Democrat Brendan Kelly. And in Illinois 13th GOP district, incumbent Rodney Davis has a significant edge over Democrat Betsy Londrigan. Now, in Illinois 14th, we have a Republican Randy Hultgren is locked in a close race with Lauren Underwood. Maine 2, this is important district, Donald Trump won this, Republican incumbent, Bruce Poliquin, his seat is now being threatened by Democrat Jared Golden. And in Michigan 7, Republican Tim Walberg squares off against Democrat Gretchen Driskell. In Michigan's 8th district, GOP incumbent Mike Bishop in a tight race, it's tightening even more, with Democrat with Elisa Slotkin. And finally, Michigan 11, pro-Trump GOP nominee Lena Epstein is in an uphill battle against Democrat Haley Stevens. We are 22 days away from the biggest midterm election in our lifetime. These races are extraordinarily tight, everything is at stake. Anybody that tells you that they know what's going to happen is lying to you. Now if you choose to stay home, that's essentially casting at least a half a vote for Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. And, by the way, if you vote for the Democrat, you are voting for Nancy Pelosi because in most cases, 99 percent, they will vote with her. And if you are voting in a Senate race, however the Democrat is, be it Tester, Heitkamp, Joe Donnelly, Bill Nelson in Florida, Claire McCaskill, Sinema in Arizona, you don't vote for Dean Heller in Nevada, you basically are voting for Chuck Schumer. The Trump agenda would come to a halt, endless witch-hunt against the president will pop up every day. Impeachment would be pursued. Every single Democrat on the Hill, they are salivating over that, but they're not telling you. In other words, they are hiding their agenda. But if you like the booming economy, if you are in love with our Constitution, presumption of innocence, inalienable rights, due process under the law, the choice is clear. In 22 days, ask yourself, are you better off than you were two years ago. Is your paycheck bigger? Are your taxes lower? Is the country safer? Is the world safer? According to a memo obtained by "The New York Times," written for the Center for American Progress, that is John Podesta's group, the third tank also Third Way, Democrats have been advised to spend no time at all talking about immigration. You're out of touch. Just keep it quiet, just like I have been saying all along, it's a party of lies. They are hiding what they will do in the hopes they can trick you into voting for them in 22 days. You get the power, you have the power to shock the world again, like you did two years ago. Joining us now, FOX News contributor Sara Carter. Andy McCarthy is with us. What's particularly disturbing, Andy, about Kyrsten Sinema, is, you know, not only she thinks Arizonans are crazy. We know that. She thinks her state is the meth capital of the world, and now, we see this new tape inviting witches. But the more important issue is the lawyer that she invited Arizona State University. You prosecuted the blind sheik. Who is Lynne Stewart? ANDY MCCARTHY, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: Sean, Lynne Stewart was my chief adversary in that case. She was the defense lawyer for the blind sheik. And after he was convicted of a conspiracy, involving a jihadist organization that he basically was the formative figure of in New York, which violate -- which bombed the World Trade Center in 1993, which plotted to blow up New York City landmarks. Right after that, after he was convicted, after all of his process was run through, after he was no longer an accused, Lynne Stewart continued to function not as his lawyer but as his confederate for purposes of getting messages out of him, at his confinement. He was sentenced to life in prison for terrorism convictions and through his murderous terrorist organization -- HANNITY: Why would she invite that radical? Why? I mean, she was also under indicted as your column pointed out. MCCARTHY: Sean, the same reason that she said she would have -- she -- for the same reason that she said she would have no problem with people joining the Taliban. Let's remember that at the time that she was saying this sort of stuff, the Taliban was the organization that gave safe haven to al Qaeda without which there would not have been 9/11 attacks. HANNITY: Yes. Let me go to Sara -- here's the thing that's amazing to me, whether you look at the Center for American Progress or even Maxine Waters saying, they keep telling me not to say it but we are going to do it, impeach 45. So, what they're really -- to win, Democrats have to hide who they are, and lied to the American people to win an election. That is the big story and, you know, we can't be civil, kick him when they are down, confronting Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen, Sarah Sanders, Ted Cruz, what is going on with this party? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I think what we are seeing is desperation in this party, Sean. A desperation that this party wants to ensure that they actually win. They think that by writing this very low road, low road is what I call it, especially when we think of Eric Holder, we're going to kick them when they're low, we're going to go after them, and, you know, we're seeing all this craziness, this witch's curse on President Trump. HANNITY: Look at the violence from this weekend, as you're speaking. Look at -- we'll put it up on the screen. Do you think it's connected to these people that are saying, you know, oh, go confront them? Create crowds, go after them? CARTER: Yes, absolutely, Sean. Look, they are antagonizing the public with this rancor. We see this. They use the media to construct a narrative that is extraordinarily dangerous to our country. That is why we have to stick to the facts. The American people are not dumb. Of course, there are people, all the way to the left that no matter what you say, that no matter what facts you bring out to them, they will automatically agree with that side. By the American people understand what's going on here, and if they are smart, they will go to the voting polls and they will vote. Otherwise, we're going to lose a very significant investigation. HANNITY: That's all true, too. A lot of hard work will come a stop, but they will go after impeachment. Thank you both. All right. We're going to have more on these riots over the weekend. A lot more breaking news. Sean Spicer, Dan Bongino, and a big announcement tonight, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with more reactions to tonight's monologue. We have an election in 22 days, author of the best-selling book, "The Briefing," former White House press secretary, America First Action senior adviser, Sean Spicer, and the author of a brand-new best seller, "Spygate," former Secret Service agent, NRA TV contributor Dan Bongino. You know, Sean, I know you went through a lot when you were the pressed secretary. And words are one thing, but when you have leaders -- the former candidate for the Democratic Party saying, we can't be civil with them. We have the former attorney general of the U.S. saying, kick them, you know? If they go low, we kick them? Then you got Maxine Waters says, you see these cabinet people, you get a crowd and you follow them into department stores and gas stations and grocery stores. But we saw that to your successor Sarah Sanders, Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen, Ted Cruz, somebody is going to get killed here, but they don't seem to care. SEAN SPICER, AMERICA FIRST ACTION SENIOR ADVISOR: You are absolutely right. Somebody did get shot. Steve Scalise, this deranged person on the left, went out and shot a group of House Republican members playing baseball. HANNITY: You're right. (CROSSTALK) SPICER: It has taken a violent turn. And I think the concern to me is that it all seems to be coming in one direction. Instead of denouncing it, which they -- you know, the media would be out there asking the right to do that if it was going in that direction, instead you see the left doubling down, Hillary Clinton, Maxine Waters, as you mentioned, Eric Holder, these people are doubling down, inciting it. And if this was the right to doing it to the left, Sean, if these were Donald Trump supporters, there would be outrage on every one of those left- wing cable shows that we see time and again. HANNITY: No, no, they -- SPICER: It's outrage when Donald Trump -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Go ahead, finish. SPICER: It's amazing, I have never seen such a double standard. They justify the actions on the left. You saw the commentators and hosts on CNN saying, please don't call it a mob, which clearly is. HANNITY: Yes, how dare you call -- SPICER: If that had been on the -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How dare we say it's a mob. SPICER: Yes. I mean, it's amazing the double standard -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. Dan, let me bring you in. You know what we learned - - "The New York Post" actually said these are the people that are wanted. There was -- not only Portland last weekend and this weekend, but New York this weekend, and a bunch of anarchists go to the New York, I guess GOP club, Republican club, whatever it happens to be, and they are writing -- you know, they're committing vandalism, anarchist signs they are putting up, et cetera, and then there's a confrontation on the streets there. That's not what the media says. They don't tell the whole story. They get it wrong in the beginning. I'm kind of pissed off that I even for a second believe half of what they wrote. And this is coming from the left, the radical left. But look at Alec Baldwin, the lowest ratings in the history basically of any network television. It's never been that low, or Michael Moore's movie (Inaudible). Is this going to translate to the ballot box in 22 days? DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: Well, Sean, we are already seeing some of the results of that. I mean you covered it in the beginning of your show, Missouri, North Dakota. We are even seeing a raise closing in Michigan, you know. John James, an insurgent candidate. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: John James is a rock star. I love him. BONGINO: He's a stud. I love him. He is great. His videos are terrific. We're already seeing it happening, Sean. But two quick points on this, number one, the left's religion is state power. That's their religion. When they lose state power, they have nothing to fall back on. I'm not talking about all Democrats. I'm talking about the radical left. They are socialists. Their religion, a genuflect at the altar state power. When they lose, they rot. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know how they lied and they disseminated the false information, Dan. Remember all the phoney documents leaked before the election. They were used to set up the whole Mueller investigation. The pieces are all coming together. But Maxine Waters -- they keep saying to me don't say it. Don't say it. We will do it but don't say it. Now, the Center for American Progress, John Podesta's group, they are now out there saying don't talk about immigration. Don't tell people what you really want to do. So for them to win, they have to lie and hide who they really are. That's a pretty revealing instance. And then we have the tape of. (CROSSTALK) SPICER: Right. And Sean, I tell you. The interesting thing is if you look at a candidate like Kyrsten Sinema in Arizona, that it's called the people of Arizona crazy. She talked about -- she has all of these tapes start unraveling about her talking about it being OK to join the Taliban. (CROSSTALK) SPICER: There is a double standard with how they cover the right and how they cover the left. And the reality is, is that these folks are trying to cover the -- all they want to do is talk about the style and substance of Donald Trump. They can't talk about the agenda and they can't talk about the results, because if there is either economic policy or foreign policy. The President is getting things done, and they know they can't beat what he's getting done. HANNITY: I think I see things moving in the right direction in the Senate, Sean Spicer, but the House, it's too hard to tell. I've been identified. (CROSSTALK) SPICER: It's getting closer. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Sean? SPICER: Yeah? It's getting close. HANNITY: But do you think its closer, but are you confident that the House remains a Republican hand? SPICER: No. I'm not. Until people get out there and realize what a big difference. Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, a whole lot of them are going to be versus -- they stop the Trump agenda dead in their tracks. People need to understand. November, this agenda is on the ballot. You need to get out and vote. HANNITY: You know we'll say this. If you vote anybody that votes for Nancy -- for Democrat, you voted for Nancy. If you vote in the Senate -- that's right, or a Democrat, you voted fro junk. You're voting for their lies and a hidden agenda. You're right. There is a lot at stake. All right, thank you both. When we come back, Kristin Fisher in Washington, the latest on the missing Saudi journalist and Elizabeth Warren's well, big DNA test, later, we have a big announcement. I mean it's a great announcement. You're going to love it. That's straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with the very latest on the growing backlash from Senator Warren's so-called DNA test, as well as the continuing developments regarding the disappearance of the journalist, Fox News Washington correspondent Kristin Fisher, you know, watching both of these stories. You know this is getting very strange. Because I wonder if the President was lied to by the Saudis, and it's hard to believe that in fact this journalist was -- Khashoggi was in fact killed, and nobody knew at the top. It's hard to believe. KRISTIN FISHER, CONTRIBUTOR, FOX NEWS: Yeah. Sean, there are just so many questions about it, and that's one of the main reasons that the Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, is of course, on his way to Saudi Arabia to try and figure out first-hand what exactly happened. So that's one story that we are watching tonight. And then the other one is, of course, Senator Elizabeth Warren, who is receiving just a lot of pushback from these -- from releasing those DNA test results, providing at least some evidence of her Native American lineage, anywhere from 1/64-1/1024 Native American to be exact. Tonight, the Cherokee Nation is accusing her of making a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses, while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, while President Obama's 2012 campaign manager says, quote, argue the substance all you want, but why 22 days before a critical election where we must win the House and Senate to save America? Why did Senator Warren have to her announcement now? Why can't the Dems ever stay focused? So this pretty much erases any doubt that Senator Warren has her eye on 2020. And then the other story that we were monitoring, what we were talking about, if of course, these reports that Saudi Arabia is preparing to admit that they accidentally killed Saudi journalist, Jamal Khashoggi, that it was an unauthorized interrogation gone wrong. Now Fox cannot confirm these reports, but the President has been briefed about them. His Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, is now on his way to Saudi Arabia to meet the King, and hopefully find out firsthand what happened, Sean, but a lot of moving parts on both of those stories tonight. HANNITY: Yeah, very scary. He went into the consul in Istanbul, the Saudi consulate, never came out, very frightening, all right, thank you, Kristin. Joining us now with reaction is National Security and Global Affairs Analyst, Morgan Ortagus, and also with us is Jessica Tarlov, Fox News Contributor. Morgan, you lived almost two years yourself in Saudi Arabia. You know it very well. They had denied it vigorously. But in fact, Khashoggi never came out of this consulate when he went in. It didn't make sense. And it's hard to believe that -- the stories that are emerging. Again, not confirmed by Fox that he might have been well - an interrogation gone bad. I'm not buying that. And I'm not buying that the Saudi leadership, the Crown Prince didn't know either. MORGAN ORTAGUS, NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST, FOX NEWS: Sean, I think you hit the nail on the head here. And that is that the Saudis in some form have been lying to the President and his team for the past two weeks. And I think that's crucial. We need an answer here from the King and from the Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, who called Jared Kushner and others in the administration to deny any sort of Saudi involvement. So the big thing that I'll be looking for tomorrow is what is Secretary Pompeo get out of this. When he flew at a moment's notice, sort of an hour's notice all the way to Saudi Arabia, halfway across the world, to deal with this story, I knew that it met the President meant business. He wanted to get down to the facts. This is an incredibly serious story. There are many fronts in which that the Saudis are very good partners with the United States. I worked with them very closely while I was in Saudi Arabia to curb the illicit flows of funding to Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations. They clearly work with us on oil. So there are ways in which, as it relates to terrorism, as it relates to countering Iran, that the relationship with the Saudis is important. But I think that there needs to be a lot of answers here, specifically why they chose to lie to the President publicly for the past two weeks. HANNITY: Let me go to a different issue with you, Jessica. And by the way, Mike Pompeo is the guy. I think one of the best appointments the President has made, an amazing Secretary of State, and strong and tough and firm and he's getting lots of good things done. Jessica, let me ask you a question. So she literally, purposely, Senator Warren changes. Changes on (Inaudible) to say she's a minority, a Native American when she's at (Inaudible), then the first female minority at Harvard. That was printed for like 10 years, 1/164, 1 out of 1,024. OK, that's a lie. She allowed a lie to go forward for a long period of time, and somehow she is acting as if she has been vindicated in all of this. And as the, you know, Cherokee Nation leaders said, no, we are not buying it either. JESSICA TARLOV, CONTRIBUTOR, FOX NEWS: Well, she never said that she was part of the Cherokee Nation. And there are a number of law professors who she's worked with and others that she hasn't all over the country vouching for her, saying that she was. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Well, but she actually didn't lie. I think it was a mistake. I am fully onboard with (Inaudible) and what he was saying. Stay focused. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: She's done this for years. She's done this. She portrayed herself as a Native American, and she's not. That's the bottom line here. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: There is a percentage there. And I know that you're about to say it's less than the average American. I have seen all the headlines. I'm well prepared for this evening's segment. I think it's unfortunate. We have 22 days to go. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: More than unfortunate. She's let this slide. This has been going on in Massachusetts for years. TARLOV: Today was unfortunate. Having a conversation about the race. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Come out of Donald Trump's mouth and other members of the GOP when they call her Pocahontas, or (Inaudible). She does have that as part of her lineage. HANNITY: Looks like the President was right again. All right, let me go to Morgan. Morgan, when you lived in Saudi Arabia, we know how oppressive life has been for women in Saudi Arabia under Sharia Law. We know that -- until recently, (Inaudible) we know that gays and lesbians are either beaten or killed. We know you cannot practice Christianity or Judaism in the entire country. What was it like for you -- I mean when you left the consulate, where you are, I assume you had to dress and cover and all of those things. What was it like? ORTAGUS: Yeah. I wasn't wearing this snakeskin dress for sure when I lived in Saudi Arabia. Listen, my working relationship, Sean, with the Saudi government was incredible. We got a lot of work done. While I was in Saudi in 2011, it's whenever the U.S. government was able to kill Osama Bin Laden. There were a lot of things that I was proud of, but we did have to wear the (Inaudible). We did have to dress. And can I just say one quick thing about Elizabeth Warren? I'm just as much the little mermaid as she is an American Indian. TARLOV: Thanks for getting that in there, Morgan, and I really appreciate that as a final thought. HANNITY: Why are you laughing? ORTAGUS: We're going to cook up some powwow chow when this segment is over. TARLOV: Come on, you guys. HANNITY: Jessie, do you want to respond? You're a Democrat. You're a liberal. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: I said thanks a lot, Morgan. HANNITY: Senator Warren supporter. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: I said Senator Warren should not have done this today. I do not. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: She shouldn't have lied for years. Why don't you just pick on the issue? TARLOV: Because she didn't lie. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way if Jesse was here, I would say its Morgan. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Jesse is hiding from me. He's not feeling well, feel better Jesse. HANNITY: All right. Thank you, both. All right, we have some breaking news, just breaking about Fusion GPS cofounder, Glenn Simpson. Catherine Herridge has a full report. Also, John Solomon with breaking news and Carter Page responding to breaking news, and what he will do to clear his name, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us with the very latest on the developing deep state scandals, and there are a lot of them tonight, Fox News Chief Intelligence Correspondent, our own Catherine Herridge tonight. A lot happening, first Rod Rosenstein, Glenn Simpson, and of course, we are still waiting for subpoena documents. CATHERINE HERRIDGE, CHIEF INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT, FOX NEWS: Well, that's right, Sean. And good evening. A short time ago, Fox News obtaining this statement from Glenn Simpson's attorney confirming that Simpson will not defy Congress. He will comply with the House subpoena and appear on Capitol Hill tomorrow, but he won't answer questions about the anti-Trump dossier and he still plans to take the fifth. The statement reads in part, quote, compelling Glenn Simpson to appear for a confidential deposition after he has stated his intention to invoke his constitutional right not to testify reflects the worst practices of past Congressional investigations and reinforces that this is a political exercise, not a serious inquiry. Lawmakers want answers from Simpson about the DNC Clinton campaign-funded anti-Trump dossier that was used like verified intelligence by the FBI and Justice Department in 2016 to secure a surveillance warrant for Trump campaign, a Carter Page. Depositions are also scheduled now with the FBI's former top lawyer, James A. Baker, who revealed earlier this month that the FBI got Russia information from the lawyer whose firm handled the Trump dossier. And a deposition is also on deck for Russia researcher, Nellie Ohr, who also worked for Simpson. In addition, documents show her husband, Justice Department official Bruce Ohr, became the unofficial back channel for the dossier to the FBI. And significantly, Sean, Simpson's earlier testimony conflicts with Ohr's emails about their contact. Meantime, the House committee's Republican Chairman is considering a subpoena for the Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, to secure his testimony under oath about whether he's seriously discussed recording the President in May 2017 and removing him from office. Also late today, Carter Page, who was the subject of the surveillance warrant, he was the target of that effort has filed a lawsuit against the DNC, as well as the law firm, Perkins Coie. That was the law firm that worked directly with Simpson on the Trump dossier, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Catherine Herridge, important information tonight, thank you. Joining us now former Trump campaign aide Carter Page himself, also the Hill's John Solomon. Gentlemen, we have one other little piece here in the FBI. We know that Andrew McCabe is under criminal investigation. Now, he is also being investigated for leaks as it relates to General Flynn. And by the way, those leaks, we knew from the get-go were illegal, because that was -- we all know surveillance unmasking that, never shouldn't have happened or leaked in the first place. JOHN SOLOMON, THE HILL: Yeah. There are some new documents out tonight, Sean. The FBI released them on their public information side, the vault. And they revealed the first time that there was an investigation of comments allegedly made by the Deputy Director Andrew McCabe about President Trump and Flynn. We don't know anything more than that. We know that they list McCabe as a witness in the investigation, not a subject. But it's the first time we've heard anything about this, and I think that's an important thing. Also today, the Senate intelligence security chief pled guilty to lying about his contacts with the media. So this leak facet was going on and starting to be exposed little by little. HANNITY: Yeah. We now have the entire puzzle framed in and we are filling in all the pieces, and it's pretty clear what happened. Carter, look. You are in the center of all this. We know that four FISA judges that fraud was committed on them. The bulk of information was that phoney dossier that even -- we know that Christopher Steele was on standby. Now, you have Rod Rosenstein. He's refusing to testify under oath. You know we can't get Glenn Simpson to testify under oath. We can't get the three or twos, the gang (Inaudible) information or the FISA applications that were all subpoenaed and supposed to be coming out. You are assuming the DNC and who else? CARTER PAGE, FORMER ASSOCIATE, TRUMP CAMPAIGN: Perkins Coie and a few of their partners. HANNITY: Yeah. Well, I mean I have to imagine here. You are going to be a really wealthy guy. Because what they did to you, we -- you -- all your fourth amendment protections were stomped on. This isn't politically even in any way, Carter. PAGE: Sean, but it's also -- you know, it goes beyond any damages or any, you know, financial aspects. I mean there have just been so many lies, as you are alluding to, and you look at the damage it did to our Democratic systems and, you know, our institutions of government back in 2016. I'm just trying to get some justice in terms of getting some disclosure. If you look at some of the prior dodgy dossier cases, like Mr. Gubarev, he's the one that actually got some of the biggest information out there in that Senate Judiciary Committee and House Intelligence Committee have been facing a lot of things on in terms of their investigation. HANNITY: You also helped your government. You would debrief after travelling abroad freely with the intelligence community, FBI, CIA. And they haven't indicted you. All right, real quick in the last few seconds, we have John. What is next here and where are these classifications, and where are the un-redacted materials? When are they coming? SOLOMON: I think they are being (Inaudible) locked again, Sean. And it's frustrating for all of us who would really the public to benefit from the truth. I think you are not going to see them. But stay tuned later this week. I will have a story that will bring a whole new character into the Russia thing. HANNITY: I would trust you, because you've been. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: For eighteen months. Thank you, both. All right, when we come back, this was a big announcement. It really is. And it's next. HANNITY: All right. Major announcement this week, so this Thursday, head down to Florida. Yes, Southern Command Headquarters to interview the one and only Rush Limbaugh. It will be less than three weeks out. We'll talk about the midterms, the fake, phoney, dishonest news media, of course, the deep state, the left's new lows, and of course, yeah, get out there and get at people's faces. And by the way, create a ground and follow people into grocery stores and gas stations and department stores. Anyway, that interview with Rush Limbaugh Thursday night 9:00 Eastern. We hope you'll join us. All right, we're always fair and balanced. We'll never be the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled, why, the news continues as Laura Ingraham takes it away. Laura? Load-Date: October 16, 2018 End of Document Democrats Do Not Have A Platform To Run On So They Are Using Victimhood As A Strategy And Rallying Cry; Senator Elizabeth Warren On Her Playing Victim, Claiming Attacks On Her Cherokee Indian Background; Republicans Seen To Keep The House In The November Midterms; Democrats Claiming To Be Champions For Women In The Workplace But Really Of Ambitions Of Politics; Portland Mayor Speaks About Police Non- Intervention With Protestors; Former ICE Acting Director Discusses Effectiveness Of Family Separation Policy; Elizabeth Warren Releases Results Of DNA Testing Of Native-American Heritage Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 15, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7604 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Monica Crowley Guests: Dave Bossie, Jason Nichols, John McLaughlin, Dee Dawkins Haigler, Joey Gibson, Mark Fuhrman Tom Homan, Rebecca Nagle Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: I hope you'll join us. All right. We're always fair and balanced. We will never be the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Why? The news continues as Laura Ingraham takes it away. Laura? LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, I want to follow you into a grocery store. When's the last time you were in a grocery store? HANNITY: This weekend. I went to the butcher shop, the grocery store. You know, it's the weirdest thing. I shop all the time and people ask me in the store, why are you here? I am like, isn't it obvious I like to eat? It's pretty obvious. INGRAHAM: Wait a second, do you live in like Mayberry? You have a butcher? That's like a fancy person's neighborhood. HANNITY: Go do your show. This is ridiculous. Mayberry? (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: I think it's lovely that you have -- I want a butcher. We don't have any butchers. We just have a big grocery store. HANNITY: No, it's a little -- it's a small, family-owned butcher shop in my tiny community. INGRAHAM: I'm just teasing you. I want a burcher. HANNIT: And I like to spend my money in the local stores. INGRAHAM: Do all the people come up to you and say Sean, Sean, could you sign my spinach or something, I mean. HANNITY: You know, you are -- if I could I just say it on TV? You are worse than my three sisters, that is all I have to say, and I grew up in a 50 by 100 lot with three older sisters and one bathroom. Just so you know. You are worse than them. INGRAHAM: I had one bathroom and three older brothers, OIK. Don't give me -- I'm going to do that. I walk 10 miles to score or we're going tp lose the whole segment. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Thanks so much. I am Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. Thank you so much for joining us. Elizabeth Warren is catching a little bit of heat for claiming Native American ancestry. The Cherokee nation is out tonight with a statement slamming the Massachusetts senator, one of its members is here to sound off. Plus, while most pollsters think the Republicans will lose the House this November, a few are beginning to take a different view. One of them joins us tonight to explain. And violent Antifa mobs seemingly running the streets of Portland, Oregon? A counter protester is here with this first-hand account before Mark Fuhrman explains how the city leadership is failing its people miserably. But first, Democrats peddle victimhood as the midterm strategy. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. At some point in life, we all have to decide whether we want to be victims or victors. Do we want to be defined by slights and wrongs, ones that are perceived or real? That we suffer at the hands of others. Two hundred and forty- two years ago, our forefathers made the decision that kind of sitting around bemoaning our fate under British rule wasn't going to get us anywhere. They decided to do something about it. We are a people who chose freedom and liberty rooted in a sense of virtue over despair and hopelessness. And with courage, sacrifice, and an indomitable spirit and an abiding faith in God, we won our independence and eventually created the greatest country in the world. Powerful forces in today's Democratic Party though, are at war with that fundamental understanding of the American story. In fact, many think the founding of our country was inherently corrupt and even illegitimate, and they have made a decision to run against that version of America. In the absence of an actual plan to grow American prosperity and keep us safe, Democrats are embracing victimhood as a political platform this midterm cycle. Democrat Stacey Abrams is running for governor in Georgia. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STACEY ABRAMS (D), GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE, GEORGIA: The miasma of fear that is created by voter suppression is as much about terrifying people about trying to vote as it is about actually blocking their ability to do so. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, what is she talking about? Voter registration has reached a record level in Georgia and there was a 75 percent voter participation there in 2016. The average nationwide was only 55 percent. Abrams is selling fear victimhood and the idea of, wait, illegal aliens voting? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ABRAMS: The secret is the blue wave is African-Americans. It's white, Latino, its Asia Pacific Islander. It's made up of those who've been told they are not worthy of being here. It's comprised of those who are documented and undocumented. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a midnight train to Georgia. Did she just -- did you just catch that? Sounds like Abrams had her brothers illegal immigrants, who'd indeed or our part of the blue wave. In other words, be eligible to vote? How does that not dilute the legal votes of American citizens of all colors and all backgrounds? But it gets worse up in Massachusetts where a lot of my family is from and where for years Elizabeth Warren has shamelessly peddled the idea that she is a Cherokee Indian. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) My Aunt Bea has walked by that picture at least a thousand times, remarked that her -- that her father, my papaw -- had high cheekbones like all of the Indians. Being Native American has been part of my story I guess since the day I was born. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Was she born in 1985, because I think that's when she started to tell the story. Anyway, warren is trying to play the victim. After years of taking criticism for her Native American claims, Warren, with an eye on 2020, tried to get this all out of the way. She released an expensive video starring a DNA specialist. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WARREN: What are the facts say? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The facts suggest that you absolutely have a Native American ancestry in your pedigree. WARREN: Some people questioned my heritage and my family history. Maybe they do it to insult me. Maybe they do it to distract from the kinds of changes I'm fighting for. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: According to a DNA study, analyzed by Stanford's Carlos Bustamante, who by the way works for 23andMe, the company, the advisor of that company, Warren is possibly 1/1024, which is 0.09 percent Native American, OK. That's where the scale goes. It goes like from .09 percent to I don't know, like everybody else. According to "The New York Times," scientists say the average European- American is 0.18 percent Native American. So that would make Warren less Native American than the average European-American. Wait a second. What the heck happened to liberal concerns about cultural appropriation? I guess that's out the window. Warren is kind of a typical Democrat though here. She's racially obsessed and let's face it, that's just easier than being factually informed. And worst, she is willing to scam the system, in this case, play in Indian to get a boost professionally or in this case politically. And to add insult to injury, her DNA specialist, Carlos Bustamante, flatly admitted that he didn't even use Native American samples for the test. Seriously? To make up for the lack of those samples, he used one from Mexico, pero, and Colombia. Keep this up and warren is going to be claiming that she's more Latina than Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez by 2020. Well, speaking of Latinos, a new migrant caravan from Central America, the second in six months, is now headed up through Mexico to the United States this week. It already has 1,600 members. Naturally, Democrats have started their old narrative about Trump separating families at the border. If only they had the same concern for Americans brutally victimized by illegals here in the United States. In the last few weeks, two illegals have committed vicious rapes just in the New York area. One, Ever Martinez- Reyes followed a Nassau County woman home, knocked her out, and repeatedly raped her for about an hour. Then there's Julio Ayala. He is thought to be a member of MS-13. And Ayala broke into the bedroom of an 11-year-old girl he did not know and raped her on a bunk bed with her brother below them. Meanwhile, we hear almost nothing on those stories or so many more like them from Democrats who at the same time agonized over noncitizens overwhelming our border patrol. When Lesley Stahl tried to melt hearts with her family separation narrative last night, the president set her straight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LESLEY STAHL, CBS NEWS HOST: Are you willing to reinstitute that policy. You said we are looking at everything. Yes or no? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I will only -- you can't say yes or no, but what I can say is this. There are consequences from coming into a country, namely our country, illegally. STAHL: I'm not going to ask it again. TRUMP: You don't have to, but it's the same as Obama. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, Donald Trump has exposed the fraudulent nature of the left's weak arguments and their weaker narratives. There is a sudden bounce. You felt it in that "60 Minutes" interview last night. The left is fuming that "60 Minutes" actually aired the interview. Check out the blog. But he has that extra bounce in his step and a sense that his party is now on the rise again. Following the Kavanaugh battle, you would've thought though that the Democrats might've gotten a message that victimhood for political gain is not a great strategy. It won't work and it hasn't. And the good news is, the Republicans may have finally found their groove. They are outselling the peace, prosperity, and security agenda that Trump won on and is delivering on. I don't know, in the end, I think most Americans are just smart enough to see that victimhood is a dead-end personally and politically. And that's the ANGLE. Joining me here in studio, former Trump deputy campaign manager Dave Bossie and University of Maryland lecturer Jason Nichols. Jason was chopping at the bit and I want him to go right at this. Jason, here's what -- let's start with Elizabeth Warren. I think Elizabeth Warren and you go back to the Harvard faculty where she is described as a premier minority hire at the Harvard Law School. I'm thinking if you're trying to pass yourself off as a Cherokee Indian and you had to get a guy from 23andMe who is a paid advisor to that company, like, do this goofy like Hallmark video, like, yes you are part Cherokee. You know, the Cherokee Nation tonight says the following. The Cherokee Nations says, "Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage." She was trying to play the victim card and she got exposed. JASON NICHOLS, LECTURER, UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND: I don't think she was necessarily trying to play the victim card. INGRAHAM: What was he doing? NICHOLS: She was trying to say that she has Native American ancestry which is very different than saying you are Native American. And I think now she has moved beyond saying she is Native American. She was just saying she has Native American ancestry. Look, I have British ancestry. I would never claim to be British, you know. So, I think that that's -- INGRAHAM: Yes, because you have integrity. You have integrity and you would never do that because you don't have to pass yourself off as something that you're really not so you get an edge on someone else who might be applying for the same job, but they want to check a box that they've hired a Native American. You wouldn't do that. NICHOLS: First of all, there is -- but Laura, there's no evidence that she had any kind of bump in terms of her career because she -- INGRAHAM: Really? NICHOLS: -- had Native American ancestry. INGRAHAM: You don't think Elizabeth Warren has received any special plaudits or considerations by being labeled a minority? NICHOLS: There is no evidence of it. INGRAHAM: But she's listed -- why is she -- if she gets no benefit from it, why is that her calling card? NICHOLS: I think she, like many European-American friends of mine, believe -- truly believe -- INGRAHAM: Wait, do you just call people European-American's? NICHOLS: I don't but I can tell you this, you know, if I say white I'm going to get people saying, oh, you're -- INGRAHAM: No, you're not. I don't care. It doesn't matter to me. NICHOLS: Yes, I know it doesn't matter to you, but twitter is a different story. INGRAHAM: All right, I got to get Bossie in on this. Bossie, look, if I were a Democrat at this point, I'd just be throwing Elizabeth -- I mean, if I were a Democrat I'd say, look, Elizabeth Warren has some great qualities. This sadly was a big mistake and she should just go back to issues because (inaudible) connect on some of those. DAVID BOSSIE, FORMER TRUMP DEPUTY CAMPAIGN MANAGER: There is another reason that Democrats should be annoyed with Elizabeth Warren and that's 22 days before a midterm election, you make today's focus about yourself? How selfish and 2020 presidential campaign is this focused on today? This is a ridiculous thing for her to have brought up to begin with. She did try to use this as a vehicle to get ahead in her life. Whether it was on her resume or at Harvard, it's an embarrassment to her and to the party. And they have nothing to run on, no agenda, and that's why they do things like this. INGRAHAM: She said in one interview -- we won't play it because I'm out of time, but she said my mom and dad were very much in love and they wanted to get married. My father's parents said absolutely not because she is part Cherokee and Delaware. After fighting it, they eloped. I guess. She is now a Delaware too. I didn't even know that until I saw that like, I don't know. We all have to do our 23andMe because we probably have some cool stuff in our background. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If you want to find out how French I am, you won't like it. INGRAHAM: OK, I want to play -- now, Jason, I want to play because Donald Trump did mention a million dollars if she could present some evidence. See, he was asked about this today on the south lawn of the White House taking off for Florida. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Senator Warren released some of her DNA results that shows a strong likelihood that she does have Native American roots. TRUMP: How much, 1/1000? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you owe her an apology? TRUMP: No I don't, absolutely. I know her. She owes the country an apology. What's her percentage, 1/1000? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't have the exact number. TRUMP: You can tell me -- when you have the percentage, tell me what does is say. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What about the money that you told her you would -- TRUMP: You mean, if she gets the nomination in a debate where I was going to have her tested. I will only do it if I can test her personally, OK. That will not be something I enjoy doing either. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, I don't know what exactly that means but I think it was Kellyanne Conway, someone put out a tweet saying he should give her 1/1000 of the money. BOSSIE: Yes, $977 INGRAHAM: $977. BOSSIE: And then she'd go to a charity. NICHOLS: Hold on, hold on, hold. She did not make the claim that she was 100 percent Cherokee Indian. INGRAHAM: I know. NICHOLS: And I agree that this was a big mistake. Absolutely. INGRAHAM: OK, this is why I like Jason because, you know, it was a mistake. NICHOLS: She should not have done this. INGRAHAM: When she sticks on some of the issues she actually can connect on some -- and she's more populous than a lot of the other Democrats. She can connect. This is an area -- again, let's go back to my point. Playing the victim, it's just not cool. You are not a victim. You're a -- NICHOLS: I think she's putting yourself in Trump's arena to like she's playing by his rules. BOSSIE: She's trying to but -- (CROSTLK) NICHOLS: -- Obama made -- BOSSIE: That's her 2020. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: All right, we got to get to this issue in Georgia with Stacey Abrams arguing about voter suppression which can be a potent argument on the campaign trail. If people are led to believe that they really can't register to vote or people try to keep them from that, civil rights lawsuits filed on the 11th of October, Dave Bossie. Was this a mistake by Brian Kemp or -- BOSSIE: First of all, it's not Brian Kemp law. He is the Secretary of State so he's the person -- INGRAHAM: He was in favor of it. NICHOLS: -- discretion. BOSSIE: I understand that but it's not his law. He didn't just make it. He just can't undo it. So it's not about Brian Kemp. This is more politics of destruction and separating people, trying to make people angry, trying to get them revved up for the election. And that's all this is and people will see through it. Look, people in Georgia want law and order. They want to be safe and secure. They want a good economy and they want jobs for themselves to be able to raise their children and educate their children and take care of their families. That's what they want. This is just more like -- she doesn't have a campaign to run on. Good policy. INGRAHAM: Yes. Jason, real quick. What this law does is it tries to match licenses to voter registration. They say the concern is they are not ballots (inaudible) thrown out. They've become provisional ballots and so they are verified. They do have a lot of dead people on rules (ph). They have a lot of people who are listed twice in various precincts. They are trying to match people to people. That's not a bad idea. It's a problem it disparately effects people. I think that could be a problem, but I think it's a little bit of a scare tactic to say it's preventing people from voting. Not really. I think most people can fill out their forms without a problem, correct? NICHOLS: Sure, but the exact match if you can have -- say you have, Laura A. Ingrahamm and Laura Ingraham. They're going to be like, that's not an exact match. So again, one of the things that's happened is that, you know, 53,000 Georgians are in a precarious situation, 70 percent of them are African-American. This hearkens backs to an era in Georgia when African- Americans votes were not -- INGRAHAM: I think voter registration among all groups his way up though. I mean it has a good thing. It was up in 201, turnout was huge. We want people voting. So, it has to be fair and has to be fairly administered. You guys are both great. I love having you. Thank you, gentlemen. Just three weeks until the midterms and most pollsters predicting the Democrats of course will wrestle the House from the GOP, but some notable people are saying may be a different path forward. GOP pollster John McLaughlin is here saying that Republicans may just keep control of the House. He joins us now. All right, John, thanks so much for being here. Now, why do you think the GOP, all the predictions are they could be wiped out or they could lose, you know, the majority by several at the very least? So why would they have a chance to hold the House and your mind? JOHN MCLAUGHLIN, POLLSTER: Well, because of President Trump. The 63 million Trump voters out there who came out in 2016 to vote, that was our strategy. Bring millions of new voters from the Rust Belt to the heartland out to get them to vote for President Trump. The typical midterm election is 90 million voters. What's going on right now is each party is trying to excite their base to get more of their base out. So the Democrats are trying to get the anti-Trump vote out and we are trying to get the Trump voters out, and the Kavanaugh's Supreme Court fiasco was really about a Democrat effort to suppress our vote. What they really wanted the president to do was either withdraw it or the Republicans not giving the votes to get past. And if that had happened, millions of Trump voters would have stayed home. So what's happened, it has backfired on them. Even ABC today has a battleground pulse saying the Republicans are up in the generic ballot in the 66 targeted districts that are most contested in the House. So, what you've got is, you've got Nancy Pelosi, who's really unpopular. In our September survey, she had a 55 percent unfavorable rating. Only 30 percent favorable. The Republicans, to win them all they have to do is run a campaign to say we have to stop Nancy Pelosi and her colleagues from giving us open borders, raising taxes, killing jobs, government run healthcare. INGRAHAM: Well, but isn't it at the same time colleges and universities, they are registering huge numbers of young people to vote. There is an enormous amount of money, smartly I think by the left, pouring into communities in Florida. We are going to get into this a little bit later on, trying to turn the vote. You've got Lin-Manuel Miranda -- I don't know -- Javier Munoz, excuse me, pushing Puerto Rican voter registration in Florida. I mean, we all want people to vote but my point is if you sell this idea of victimhood and fear, or you sell peace and prosperity? Is it fairness over victimhood, peace, prosperity, safety? I think the Republicans have to stay on the agenda that Trump sent out in 2016. MACLAUGHLIN: Look, in the Trump campaign, Donald was wonderful when he went -- the president went after Hillary Clinton. He never backed down. He was the right person to chase her on the issues, to challenge her on corruption, to challenge her on her vision of America versus him. And he didn't back up on trade or immigration, with all the elites and the know-it-alls in Washington told him you can talk about those things. He went right for it. And what's going on right now is these Republicans that are embracing him, like Ted Cruz is up in the polls in Texas. INGRAHAM: Yes. It can't back up. The never Trump-ers, the Ben Sasse's and the Jeff Flake -- I mean, (inaudible) just a losing strategy. We are going to be watching (inaudible). We'll have you back right before the midterms. Democrats want you to think they are the great protectors of women in the workplace. But is that true? Hillary Clinton -- INGRAHAM: Well, Democrats claim to hold the high ground as champions of women in the workforce until they're involved. Well, the latest example comes via Hillary Clinton who had this to say about her husband's affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TONY DOKOUPIL, CBS CORRESPONDENT: In retrospect, do you think Bill should have resigned in the wake of the Monica Lewinsky scandal? HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Absolutely not. DOKOUPIL: It wasn't an abuse of power? CLINTON: No. No. DOKOUPIL: There are people look at the incidence of the `90s and they say a president of the United States cannot have a consensual relationship with an intern. The power imbalance is to great. CLINTON: Who was an adult. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What happened to feminism? Joining us for a debate, Monica Crowley, is a senior opinion columnist for "The Washington Times" and Dee Dawkins-Haigler, former chair of the Georgia Legislative Women's Caucus. Monica, let's start with you. Bill Clinton was 49 years old, of course, president of the most powerful country on earth. Monica Lewinsky in her own words, she was a -- it was her first job out of college. But Hillary Clinton saying there was no power differential that negated consent of any type. Isn't that a big leap for what feminists used to believe? MONICA CROWLEY, SENIOR OPINION COLIMNIST, TEH WASHINGTON TIMES: Absolutely, Laura. I mean, look, the Clinton-Lewinsky affair was textbook abuse of power -- textbook. And the fact that Mrs. Clinton, given the new context of the MeToo Movement in this whole new environment, culturally and politically in which we are in, The fact that she would claim that it wasn't abuse of power because Ms. Lewinsky was "an adult," at 22. It is so epically tone-deaf that it shows yet another reason why she lost this election. The fact that she cannot process even all of these years later what her husband did. And it wasn't just the affair with Monica Lewinsky, but the subsequent perjury and obstruction of justice which is what he was impeached for. The fact that she still can't process this and be honest with the American people and herself about it is staggering. INGRAHAM: Dee, not to speak of what Hillary Clinton did to Juanita Broaddrick after she brought her own concern about the way Bill Clinton, in her words, raped her. Hillary Clinton, according to Juanita Broaddrick, you know, basically squeezed her hand hard and said thank you for all the help and support you've given my husband and held on just a little too long. But Hillary Clinton today says I guess this is all OK because by any means necessary, get power and keep power. How is that feminism though? I'm confused about what feminism even means anymore. DEE DAWKINS-HAIGLER, FORMER CHAIR GEORGIA LEGISLATIVE WOMEN'S CAUCUS: Laura, thank you for having me on, Laura. So basically, Hillary Clinton was right in her assessment. It was consensual, it was two adults who decided to be together. Now, Bill Clinton, was it the right decision? No, but you cannot regulate morality, and so, illegal does not always equate to something that is immoral. And, you know, her squeezing someone's hand, maybe she was just trying to process it all. I believe that every woman's voice needs to be heard but at the same time, there needs to be processes in place so that everyone gets the right to be able to say what they need to say, which didn't happened in this Kavanaugh case. I mean, because there were several women who said that they had been assaulted and they never got the opportunity to speak. INGRAHAM: Yes. Well, obviously the country is wildly, I think, tired of bringing up stuff from 36 years ago when there is literally no contemporaneous corroboration. But DEE, I want to get back to the question at hand. This is the exertion of power and a power differential between an adult man who is the head of the most important, most powerful nation on earth, with an intern. How, as a feminist, do you say that that is legitimate consent? How is that consent when you are the president of the United States and she is a low level intern with her first job, with no experience at all in the workplace. I mean, I'm not saying she has no responsibility but I am talking about what feminism has been about, what the leaders of the feminist movement from the `60s on out have written and thought about true and valid consent. HAIGLER: Well feminism, even itself says that a woman has a right to decide and dictate what she does with her body so, it doesn't limit her because she's 22 years old to make an adult decision. When I was 22, I had two children, working a full-time job and I watched a lot of women climb to top -- INGRAHAM: Monica Lewinsky's life was, you know, was hurt -- I won't say its ruined because every life is worth a lot in the eyes of God, but where did she go after that? What kind of life did she have? Bill Clinton went on to make speeches for $500,000 a pop, Monica -- let's got to Monica Crowley, not Monica Lewinsky -- Monica Crowley. He went on to make be the toast of the global society. And poor Monica Lewinsky, is (inaudible) be always called the woman with the blue dress. That's why the power differential matters. That's why these feminists today are total frauds for continuing to prop this up. CROWLEY: Well, that's right Laura and you are pointing to really important dynamics. The feminist movement was supposed to be affording all women the opportunity to make their own choices, whether to get an education or go to work or stay home with their children, right. But over time, it became such a politically charged movement of the left that they began applying the double standards. So the Democrats are all for #MeToo unless and until it hits one of their own, like Keith Ellison, or like Bill Clinton, in which case, 25 years ago, or however long it was, they circle the wagons around Bill Clinton because he was right on the issues, particularly on abortion. So they did everything they could to protect him. INGRAHAM: Ladies, one more issue. We have to leave this issue. I want to get your thoughts, Dee, on another issue. The left I don't think was satisfied with attacking white privilege, white male privilege. The left is now accusing white women of benefiting from patriarchy power. You can't make this stuff up. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REBECCA TRAISTER, FEMINIST AUTHOR: There have always been incentives on the table for white women who've benefit in a white patriarchy versus white supremacy and their approximal power via white men in upholding a fundamentally conservative white patriarchal power structure. White women have historically voted conservatively and on behalf of the white men to whom they are attached. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Dee, quickly, your response. DAWKINS-HAIGLER: I totally agree with that, because many white women have been complicit in the behavior of patriarchal white men because they are able to drive nice cars, live in nice houses, and so they will be quiet. Hence you see Ivanka and Melania Trump not really speaking up or saying what they need to say about the president who has also been accused by 22 different women of sexual assault, speaking of. INGRAHAM: Monica, all right. All right, Monica, your quick response. CROWLEY: Do you want to know what this is really all about? Donald Trump ran very strong among white women voters in 2016. He won a majority of them. He is still running strong among white women voters. So this is intended to leverage white female voters away the GOP conservatism -- INGRAHAM: All right, Monica, we are out of time. It's all about power and getting power back. Fantastic segment. The Antifa mob creates chaos in Portland while local officials are sitting on their hands. A counter protester who was there and took on Antifa just moments away. INGRAHAM: What happens in a major metropolitan city when leftist policies like police take a hands-off approach? What happens is violence, destruction, and innocent people getting hurt. That's what's happening right now in Portland, Oregon. Police stood idly by and let this happen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (SHOUTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Instead of confronting violent protesters, we shouldn't call them protesters -- violent thugs, cops are succumbing to leftist leaders and backing off, leaving ordinary Americans scared and unprotected. Joining us now from Portland is one of the organizers of last week's counter protest, Joey Gibson. He's also the founder of Patriot Prayer. Joey, did you group -- I know you were arrested at one point back in I guess it was in May for, didn't you carry a gun at one of the events at University of Washington campus, or a couple of your guys did? You are arrested for that. But did your group -- JOEY GIBSON, PATRIOT PRAYER FOUND: No, we were detained. INGRAHAM: What's that? GIBSON: We were detained for a second, and then let go. INGRAHAM: OK, you are detained and let go. But in this case, did you have any intention of getting violent with this Antifa group? GIBSON: We never have any intention to get violent. For us, it's about challenging the mayor, challenging these protesters, and just being able to merge. If they attack us, then people definitely do defend themselves. But we've had so many marches and rallies where no one shows up, and it's completely peaceful and we have a great time. INGRAHAM: So what is the goal of your group, as we watch this chaotic video? It looks like a lot of people got hurt. There were batons and mace being used, and rocks and bottles being throne. But what is your goal with your protest? GIBSON: Sure. So it depends on the city and with the mayors do. For example, we went down to Berkeley. We kept on hitting it because the police were standing down. And so the goal was to eventually get the mayor to allow the police to do their job. So from city to city, it changes. And Portland right now, as you saw a week ago, there were protesters blocking the streets and they were attacking motorists, and the police did nothing about it. So we went back in there and we did a flash march to kind of bring attention to this issue, to put the pressure on Ted Wheeler in hopes that would have some sort of response. So it depends on the situation, but a lot of it is bringing media attention, inspiring other people to stand up for what they believe in, especially in these far left cities. INGRAHAM: And a statement released tonight from, was it from the mayor or the police chief? It was from the mayor, Ted Wheeler, who basically said, I'm paraphrasing, that there were a lot of bad people out there. It wasn't just one group that was violent. It was a little bit murky, but, in other words, intimating that your group was part of the problem out there. It wasn't just the Antifa crowd. GIBSON: Well, I would challenge it. If people don't show up to attack us, there's not going to be any problems. So the goal is we really want to be able to have our right. If you carry an American flag in Portland by yourself, you're going to get bloodied. That's the thing that people to understand. So until the city makes some changes and the culture makes some changes, free speech isn't truly going to exist in the city until they really make changes, especially with the police. And another thing people don't understand is the police have slowly been changing their tactics in Portland where they used to just stand back completely. They would never intervene. If you look at August 4th, they did do their job, and then even last Saturday, fights broke out that lasted maybe a minute, a minute-and-a-half, and then they got everyone separated. So I think that -- INGRAHAM: People should be able to protest and walk with an American flag without being attacked. And I don't like the black masks. I don't like any groups wearing black masks in public. If you want to protest and be there, be identified and be counted. Joey, thanks so much for being here tonight. We'll be following this very closely. And you think that Portland's mayor Ted Wheeler would've noticed what was happening by now, but he's actually pretty supportive of police backing away generally from confronting violent protesters. Former LAPD detective Mark Fuhrman joins us to react. Mark, you have been seeing this Antifa stuff happening for some time. What kind of message does it send of the people of Portland when their mayor is encouraging cops to kind of stand down and tolerate these violent street protesters and basically leave citizens to fend for themselves? MARK FUHRMAN, FORMER LAPD DETECTIVE: Laura, it's pretty obvious. You are telling the protesters they now have a venue that they can basically kind of bully the police and know that at the very least, there might be a few people are arrested, maybe a few skirmishes or altercations with the police. But by and large, they're going to be able to do pretty much anything they want. INGRAHAM: Well, it seems that this has happened now on multiple occasions. We have heard almost nothing from Democrat leaders about these attacks by - - it's mostly the Antifa group, of course. We saw it in Washington even after we had a protest here recently. We have seen it, of course, as Gibson said, in Berkeley, but not just there. We thought at these WTO, anti-WTO rallies before that. Sometimes at Occupy Wall Street things broke out. So this has been ramping up over time, Mark, and it seems that police just do not have a good handle on this. FUHRMAN: Oh, they have a good handle on it. It's the politicians and the leaders in the upper echelon of police departments and city government they do not allow the line officers. And I would like to apologize to all the line officers in all of these cities. We know it is not you. Your fellow officers, your retired officers, people know it is not you. If you want to actually confront these groups, once they deviate from the policy in the permit guidelines, it is now an unlawful assembly, and then you take action. But Laura, the thing that the cities actually do is they make it impossible for the police to actually do that. They don't give them the absolute manpower and the reserve manpower. They don't give them city buses to transport people they have arrested, set up field jails and actually have a system where they plan on maybe arresting 100, 200, or 300 people. They want it to go away. They want to hold their breath. They want to hope that there's only a couple altercations and nothing happens and nothing is burned down and nobody is murdered, and then they can sigh -- INGRAHAM: It's getting worse. FUHRMAN: That's what they do. And it's not the line officers. INGRAHAM: You are right, it's not the line officers, and I want to be very clear on that. But the Portland mayor, Wheeler, did speak out. And just listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TED WHEELER, PORTLAND MAYOR: I was appalled by what I saw in the video but I support the decision of the Portland police bureau not to intervene. Listen, this whole incident will be investigated. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So he supports the decision not to intervene. Very quickly, close it out for us. FUHRMAN: Well, the idea of not intervening means more officers are going to have their lives in bodies susceptible to injury or death the next time because this will escalate. People had guns. People had clubs. You can pass laws in the city of Portland to actually curb this by saying no masks, no disguises, no certain pieces of wood on signs. You can actually curb this, but if you don't want to do that, which the mayor seems to not want to do, then you're going to have more violence. And I really feel sorry for the officers that have to put up with this kind of conduct and have to stand there and do nothing. INGRAHAM: I don't know how you recruit officers in this atmosphere that's being created mostly on the left. Mark, thank you so much. And forget about a wall. If the Democrats win you're going to get a turnstile at the border. Former ICE director Tom Homan is here next on the coming caravan of migrants, and the message behind President Trump's immigration comments on "60 Minutes." INGRAHAM: According to CBS this morning, the arrests of migrant families at our southern border surged after the Trump administration ended the family separation policy. ICE says the border detention centers are so overwhelmed that most migrants are being processed and then released. Joining us now with his thoughts, Tom Homan, former acting director of ICE. Tom, as a motivating factor for voters this November, how important should the threats of these caravans of migrants be, and how potent would it be as a political issue, it's a national security issue, a humanitarian, economic issue, but it's also a political issue. TOM HOMAN, FORMER ICE ACTING DIRECTOR: It should be the biggest issue we are talking about. And I hope the voters are paying attention to what's happening, because if the Dems take control of the House, this caravan issue is going to happen every week. They're going to keep coming. If there's no consequence, no deterrence to illegal activity, why would it stop? So President Trump, he has the right idea. We need Republicans in Congress to back him up. We need some changes. And we know how to fix it. We've just got to have the willpower to fix it, and the Dems don't have the willpower or desire. INGRAHAM: So you vote Democrat in November, you essentially guarantee there will be a continual nonstop migration of the populations of poor Central American countries through Mexico flowing into the United States, period. HOMAN: I have been doing this for 34 years. I can guarantee it, yes. INGRAHAM: Right now, there is a 38 percent surge in family, quotation marks, family units crossing on the southern border, 38 percent. Just last month, 130,000 families crossed the borders, our border just this year, 130,000. HOMAN: Why would they stop? There is no consequence, no deterrence. We can't detain them more than 20 days. INGRAHAM: Because of the judge, Dolly Gee. HOMAN: And the asylum threshold is so low, Congress failed to fix that. They failed to fix the Flores settlement agreement to say we can hold them only 20 days. They haven't funded ICE for detention beds. You just said ICE is running out of beds. ICE asked for 51,000 beds. Congress has given them 40,000. They're already saying we're going to give you 10,000 less than you need. So we only remove people we detain, 95 percent of everybody moved comes from a bed. If you get released, you don't show up in court. If you do show up in court, you don't leave. You have to get removed. INGRAHAM: This was Donald Trump -- can we play the "60 Minutes"? Do we have time to play that? "60 Minutes," I want to play this really quickly. Yesterday, let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It's very deceptive world. The other thing I've really learned is I never knew how dishonest the media was. I really mean it. I'm not saying that as a soundbite. I never knew how -- LESLEY STAHL: I'm going to change the subject again. TRUMP: But even the way you asked me a question like about separation. When I say Obama did it, you don't want to talk about it. STAHL: I'm going to run your answer, but you did it four times. TRUMP: I'm just telling you that you treated me much differently on the subject. STAHL: I disagree, but I don't want to have that fight with you. TRUMP: Hey, it's OK. It's OK. In the meantime, I'm president and you're not. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He basically didn't rule out another round of family separations if that's what it takes. HOMAN: I think the president needs to strongly consider it. I think what we, we'll get out there tomorrow, tomorrow, way ahead of time and let them know, if you enter the country illegally already after passing through to other countries, if they're really escaping fear and persecution, they are out of the country already, so claim asylum in Mexico. But if you enter illegally, put them on notice right now we will separate you, because we separate Americans when they break the law. They should be treated no better. When we separated families a while ago, we did it for three weeks, the border crossing went down 20 percent. If we would have stuck with it for 30 more days, we wouldn't be talking about a caravan today. INGRAHAM: And the young kids trafficked in the process, harmed in the process, humanitarian disaster, cartels are enriched, the whole situation, Congress has got to do something here. Congress has got to pass immediate turn- backs at the border, get more judges at the border. They have to do immediate turn-backs. Mexico has got to turn these people away in these caravans, can't allow it. Tom Homan, thank you so much for your expertise on this, and the president knows what to do. Congress needs to step up. Cherokee Nation tonight issued a statement blasting Senator Elizabeth Warren for essentially using them as a political prop. A member of the Cherokee Nation is here to respond to her directly, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN, (D) MASSACHUSETTS: My Aunt Bee has walked by that picture at least 1,000 times, remarked that he, her father, my papaw, had high cheekbones like all of the Indians. Being Native-American has been part of my story I guess since the day I was born. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, 1/1024th of your story, Elizabeth, according to your own DNA test. So how are actual members of the Native-American community reacting to Senator Warren's latest political ploy? Joining us now is Rebecca Nagle. She's a citizen of the Cherokee Nation. Rebecca, thanks so much for being here. Why is the Cherokee Nation so upset tonight by Warren's DNA reveal? REBECCA NAGLE, CHEROKEE NATION CITIZEN: I think what an important thing for nonnative people to understand is that native identity is up to native people. It's not up to a scientist in a lab. It is not up to President Donald Trump's Twitter feed, and it's not up to Elizabeth Warren. We live in a country where most of the nonnative population doesn't understand or know basic information about our identity, about tribal sovereignty, and about our history as native people. And so these myths that native identity can be determined by a DNA test directly undermines our rights as Native-Americans and our tribal sovereignty. INGRAHAM: What about the whole thing, we keep playing the soundbite about the high cheekbones. I mean, that seems really outrageous. I'm sorry, I find that outrageous. NAGLE: During this entire controversy, Elizabeth Warren has relied on stereotypes and popular misconceptions about Native-Americans to prop up her false claims. So in 2012 at a press conference, she talked about her relative's high cheekbones, and in 2018 after hordes of native people have been talked about how DNA tests in no way prove native heritage or any connection to a native tribe, she ignored those voices and publish those results. I think that her decision shows she does not listen to native people and is more concerned about her own political career and her ambitious than tribal sovereignty and native rights. INGRAHAM: Rebecca, thank you so much for joining us tonight. We really appreciate it. Up next, Kanye is not done yet. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. Kanye isn't done yet. He had a livestream over the weekend which went largely unnoticed, but some of us watched. And this gem about the Democrats. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KANYE WEST, MUSICIAN: They're trying to control our mind. They're trying to control my mind. And when someone tries to tell me what to do, tries to tell me what I can wear and not wear, I feel like they are touching my brain. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Boring he is not. Well, that's all the time we have tonight. Load-Date: October 16, 2018 End of Document 25 Days Until All-Important Midterm Elections; Media Meltdown Over Trump- Kanye Meeting; U.S. Pastor Released From Turkey After Being Detained for Two Years; Mainstream Media Is Attacking Kanye West For Visiting The White House Despite The Rapper Talking About Important Issues Concerning The American People, Particularly The Black Community; Hosts Of The ABC's The View Discriminate First Lady Melania Trump Again After Giving That Rare Interview While She's In Africa; Almost Everyone That Is Linked To The Fake Dossier Bought And Paid For By The Clinton Campaign Is Avoiding To Appear Before Congress And That Includes Fusion GPS Co- Founder Glenn Simpson Who Said That He'll Take The Fifth Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 12, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7629 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Herman Cain, Catherine Herridge, Matt Schlapp, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett Guests: John Sununu, Jay Sekulow, Joe Concha, Lawrence Jones, Kayleigh McEnany, Jim Jordan Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Welcome to HANNITY on this busy new Friday. In 25 short days, you will decide the fate of this country. Everything is at stake. Will the amazing progress of the last two years continue or will it come to a grinding halt? Well, the new radical Democratic Party, they are pushing their incivility, even violence. The media is now normalizing these disturbing comments and behavior. Now, what we're going to do tonight, we will break down the most important races state by state, district by district. We have brand new damning information about some Democrats running for the U.S. Senate in red states. But, first, the left sinks to a new low with latest comments about Kanye West meeting with President Trump. What is being said is down right despicable and disgusting. So, buckle up, it's time for the Friday edition of our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. The media, they're ramping up their sick, their vile, their ugly, their vicious attacks on rapper Kanye West. Why? For meeting with President Trump. That's why. Let's see. Kanye is talking about more jobs, more companies, more things being built in America, prison reform, safer neighborhoods. And the media, Hollywood elites, they are in a complete meltdown, sinking to new lows if that's even possible. But it's all part of what is now their daily hatred campaign. I didn't actually think it could get this bad or even worse. But it has. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not only was this a crazy conversation for this White House, this is the kind of conversation that would typically be held between people wearing hospital bracelets. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know they are supposed to discuss criminal justifiable reform, et cetera, et cetera. But it was like watching a train wreck because it was. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There were a bunch of aides who flocked to the West Wing with their cameras, I heard from other West Wing aides who were hugely embarrassed that that had happened, though that was not a good look. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is white supremacy by ventriloquism. A black mouth moving but white racist ideals are flowing from Kanye West's mouth. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wow. OK, I'm doing this for everyone who turned their volume down. You can put it back up again. That was bonkers. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If you think you are going to get a thoughtful t play by play and political analysis, you are not, because that was an assault on our White House. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: How is it possible that that rhetoric is acceptable? And over at fake news CNN, it's hard to imagine that their comments have been each worse. Don Lemon leading the charge. He's been out of control all week long. He made a sick remark about Kanye's late mother. That's how this has gotten. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Kanye West is what happens when Negroes don't read. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And black folks are about to trade Kanye West in the racial draft. Now, all of a sudden, Kanye because he has put on MAGA hat and he's an attention whore like the president, he's all of a sudden now the model spokesperson, he's token Negro of the Trump administration? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think you had there a man clearly not okay and a president who is willing to exploit that. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It seemed to be the piece of Kanye's mental illness that is clearly on display and that of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue converged in such a powerful fashion. What Kanye west is doing is tragic and problematic and we need to call it out for what it is. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What we saw was someone who is not in a healthy place from a mental point of view, from an emotional point of view. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What I saw was a minstrel show today. Him in front of all of these white people, mostly white people, embarrassing himself. Kanye's mother is rolling over in her grave. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, Don Lemon, the rest of these people working at fake news CNN, you should all really be very ashamed. It's unbelievable. Where's Jeff Zucker's stenographer by the way, humpty dumpty Stelter? The self-appointed moral arbiter of all things media. Is this acceptable? Does he condone what was said on his own network? The silence couldn't be more deafening. Now, none of us should be surprised by any of this. You have the destroy Trump media, they will stop now at nothing. Vilify Kanye, anyone who dares to try to work with the president. Let's see, to create solutions to real problems of the forgotten men and women, the people that suffered under Obama's bad policies, have safer cities, more jobs in America, prison reform. You talk about -- this is how you are treated? It is indefensible. Now, after Don Lemon's outrageous remarks, some are actually demanding CNN take action. Football legend Herschel Walker is calling for Don Lemon to be fired. To be very clear on this program, I do not support boycotts and firings. I'm a believer that we, you, the American people get to decide what you want to watch or not watch. I have said it many times, I do not support that. But, I do think it would be appropriate that Don Lemon owes Kanye at least an apology. And maybe Don Lemon and his friends in the media, maybe they could spend some time covering the important topics that were discussed in the White House with Kanye and the president yesterday -- how to help inner cities, how to lift people out of poverty. Look at this headline from "NewsBusters". The network spent six minutes gawking at Kanye with Trump, 27 seconds on why. Now, we're going to have more on the media's reaction to Kanye's White House visit in a few minutes. But, first, this week, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder, they have proven once again that the left will continue to go low in an effort to try and win elections. Now, a new RNC ad is out, and it's calling out this new liberal -- well, really the latest trend of liberal incivility. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ERIC HOLDER, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL: When they go low, we kick them. (INAUDIBLE) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: And if you see anybody in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome. (CHANTING) REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA: I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be. (CHANTING) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: You cannot be civil with g a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: Get up and please -- get up in the face of some Congress people. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is this the, quote/unquote, mob? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Get up in their face, follow them into gas stations, grocery stores, department stores. I have been telling you for months, this new radical Democratic Party is in a very alarming place, devoid of any moderates, devoid of any ideas that are going to help shape the country for our future with very few exceptions. They are ginning up fear and hatred all across the country. Members of the media, they aren't doing much to cool things down either. Look at Nicolle Wallace over at conspiracy TV MSNBC admitting on air she was encouraging physical violence against then candidate Donald Trump during the primary. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NICOLLE WALLACE, MSNBC: I told Jeb Bush after that debate that I thought he should have punched him in the face. Even if you lost, he insulted your wife, when he came down the escalators and called Mexicans rapists and murderers, he said, what do you think I should have done? I said, I think you should punch him in the face and gotten out of the race. You would have been a hero. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Yes, just him in the face. Is it any real surprise that Republicans are being harassed, targeted all across the country, being run out of restaurants, stalked in airports? The media also fueling this left wing mob mentality. They have been trying to blame Republicans. NBC's Chuck Todd actually saying Donald Trump and the GOP -- they're responsible. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHUCK TODD, NBC NEWS HOST: What world are we living in? Where the president and Republican leaders are outraged at the "ugly, nasty, bare knuckles" political environment they largely created and they are outraged when a Democrat uses the kind of rhetoric and rabble-rousing that the president has been using for years. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: In 25 short days, you, we, the American people, you have a real choice. Will you reward the tactics of the left or will you in 25 days pull off another political upset? You have the power to shock the world. Now, yesterday, we showed you new undercover video taken by Project Veritas, in this disturbing video, you see a staffer for Tennessee Senate candidate Phil Bredesen calling voters in Tennessee ignorant and saying that Bredesen was lying when he said he would have voted to confirm Brett Kavanaugh. Now, if you take a look at this undercover video, we will let you decide what you think of what are lies to win power. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wasn't really, right? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Vote for Kavanaugh? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think so. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was so confused, because I just can't believe that he would actually vote yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He wouldn't, but he said he would. I don't know if that makes it worse or better. No, it makes it better, but still -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But what's -- like I don't understand what's the game by saying yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Moderate Republicans. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is it because it's like the voters? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. That's it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, he'll lose voters if -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, straight up. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are the people of Tennessee ignorant? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Caught red handed, Tennessee Victory 2018, they released a statement yesterday claiming the recording was made by a fake volunteer who, quote, used secret video recording equipment to capture uninformed and speculative comments made last weekend by college students and youth organizers. That's not completely true. Now, backlash supporters and volunteers over Bredesen's statement supporting Kavanaugh, well, the Tennessee Democrat spokesman, well, guess what, he is stepping up as well. Now, he's smearing gun owners. And according to reports, he said, white male gun owners are, quote, biggest terror organization on the planet. And in Arizona, we have more of the same -- shocking comments from Democratic hopeful Kyrsten Sinema, they continue to be unearthed. Now, back in 2010, she actually called Arizona the, quote, meth lab of democracy. That's what she wants to represent. In 2011, she called Arizonans "crazy". Now, a spokesman for Sinema said the video, quote, she was frustrated no one in the state legislator was standing up to out-of-state special interests, working to take away healthcare from children, making tuition more expensive and take job security away from working families. By the way, that's not all. She promoted events at Arizona State University featuring a lawyer that represented the Blind Sheikh Andy McCarthy worked on that case, he was convicted in 1995 of being the mastermind of terrorist plots against this country? And tonight, CNN reporting back in 2003, Sinema was connected to many far left groups. This is the new Democratic Party I have been telling you about. Now, is this who the people of Arizona, Tennessee want representing them? Look, here's what it comes down to, it's not complicated. If you vote in a red state for a Senate Democrat in 25 days, you're voting for Chuck Schumer because that's who leads the Democratic sheep off the left wing cliff. If you vote for Democrats in these House races, you are basically voting for Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters. One thing is certain. The only way Democrats seemingly can win is to lie and deceive you, we the people, and also demonize opponents like they do every two years and every four years, they want to impeach the president, endless investigation, they want their crumbs back. They want to raise taxes, eliminate ICE, open borders and they want to keep their signature -- well, plan for healthcare, Obamacare. And vote everything that Chuck and Nancy want in and that's how they will vote. Now, as we've done all week, here are 10 more races that we're keeping our eye on that will literally be the tipping point in this election, a balance of power in Washington. We start in Minnesota. This is a very important state in these midterms. They're first districts, open race, pits Republican Jim Hagedorn -- where the first district's open race pits Republican Jim Hagedorn against Democrat Dan Feehan. It is a district that Donald Trump won by 15 points, but as of now, it's a close fight. In Minnesota's second district, Republican incumbent Jason Lewis is facing off against Democrat Angie Craig. On the third district of Minnesota, Eric Paulsen is fighting off Democrat Dean Phillips. In the same state, we got our eye tonight on the eighth district where Republican Pete Stauber, he squares off against Joe Radinovich. In Montana, at large, House District Republican Greg Gianforte. He has a modest lead at this moment against Democrat Kathleen Williams. And in Nebraska's second district, GOP incumbent Don Bacon is being challenged by Democrat Kara Eastman. It's a district Trump only won narrowly. In Ohio, first district, conservative Republican Steve Chabot, he's clinging to a slight lead, this now is a toss-up, a very important race. Also, staying in Ohio, where the president was tonight, 12th district, that features Troy Balderson taking on Danny O'Connor. In Ohio, in their 14th district, Republican incumbent David Joyce taking on Democrat Betsy Rader. And lastly in South Carolina, their first district, Republican Kate Arrington is up against Democrat Joe Cunningham. This is an open seat left by Mark Sanford. So, the bottom line is, in 25 days, the fate, the future of the country is going to be decided. Are we going to continue to prosper at record speed or will progress be stalled by endless investigation? Possible impeachment? Higher taxes, open borders, Obamacare? Now, President Trump, he continues to keep his promises. Just today, we got amazing news. Remember the American pastor held in a Turkish prison for two years? He was released due to President Trump's intervention. Also, a tip of the hat to Jay Sekulow and American Center for Law and Justice. Here is what the president said about this earlier today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: But we're very honored to have him back with us. He suffered greatly, but we're very appreciative to a lot of people. Lot of people. We spoke to Turkey. And he went through a system. And we got him out. We've been trying to get them out for a long time. Well, this has nothing to do with anything. There was no deal made at h all. There was no deal. But we're very happy to have him and have him in good shape. I hear he is in very good shape. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So, political prisoners being returned to the U.S., renewed respect in the world, economic prosperity right here at home, this is what is at stake 25 days. And only you can shock the world once again. Joining us now with reaction, former governor of the great state of New Hampshire, John Sununu, and America Fighting Back chairman, Herman Cain. Welcome both of you. Governor, let's start with you. Is there anything I'm saying that's wrong here? We have amazing progress and success both on the economic front, getting rid of burdensome regulation, the president keeping his promises. And then you see a lot of vicious angry Democrats that seem to not have any agenda that I see. JOHN SUNUNU, FORMER GOVERNOR OF NEW HAMPSHIRE: Sean, the mob rule that you are seeing on the Democratic side is really just the tip of the iceberg. It's indicative of a Democratic Party that's been bought and paid for by the George Soros' of the world who really don't care about the American system. Who don't like the way we live, and our values and our principles. Those riots or mob actions are coordinated by groups that Soros has funded. They have full paid staff making sure these things happen. They pay for people to go there. They distribute the scripts. They print the signs. They distribute the shirts. And it goes beyond that, Soros has got leverage now in the Democratic primaries and that's why you are getting candidates like the Sinema in Arizona that has a horrible history that nobody noticed before. They are now seeing it. Soros handpicks those, supports them and puts them out there. This Democratic Party is becoming a disgrace. And our Republican voters, our conservative voters have to understand not only do they have to go out and vote as you have been asking them, they have got to take a couple of friends and family members that may not have voted and take them to vote to make sure that this is an elections that goes the right way. HANNITY: You know, Herman Cain, one thing the Kavanaugh hearings has accomplished, even people -- maybe they don't like Donald Trump's style. Maybe they were Never Trumpers. Maybe they wanted or preferred one of the 16 other people that were running for the nomination. But it seems between the success, cutting taxes, originals on the court, secured borders, peace through strength, it seems like a lot of people are beginning now to come around and they seem -- Democrats are doing the impossible. They are uniting Republicans for one. HERMAN CAIN, AMERICA FIGHTING BACK CHAIRMAN: I think you are absolutely right. I just returned from Memphis, Tennessee helping Charlotte Bergmann who is running for the United States Congress. And I got to tell you, talking to people at the hotel, at the airports, a lot of people are, in fact, opening their eyes. Look, all over those clips that you showed, how the liberal mob media is melting down and they should be ashamed, let me tell you who is ashamed. The people who have watched those networks and watched those people and the ones who have supported Democratic candidates, they are the ones that are ashamed. And I hear more people, one that are conservative and Republicans who are going to make sure they vote to, I hear from a lot of independents who are going to vote Republican. And even I hear people who voted Democrat say enough is enough, they are voting a straight Republican ticket in November. I'm optimistic. HANNITY: Am I wrong, Governor, when I characterize if you are voting for a Democrat for the House or the Senate, you are voting for Pelosi and Maxine Waters in the House and you're voting for Chuck Schumer in the Senate? They will vote almost 98 percent of the time with the leadership. SUNUNU: And you're voting -- and you're voting for universal healthcare that they correctly used to call Medicare for all. Now, they are avoiding that language. But it is a healthcare program that will undermine the Medicare program that's out there. It will hurt the Medicare that seniors have paid for and earned over the years. And they want to give the same kind of a program, parts of the Medicare program to people for free. They are trying to promote a socialist agenda. So, people vote for a Democrat. They're voting for Schumer. They're voting for Pelosi back in their leadership positions and they're voting for legislation that will undermine healthcare programs, the tax cuts and all the progress that Donald Trump has achieved. HANNITY: Yes. Herman, you know, I don't have the confidence yet. I think in the Senate I think Heidi Heitkamp was likely to lose. Jon Tester is in trouble. Joe Donnelly is in trouble. Claire McCaskill is in trouble. We got now Sinema in trouble. Martha McSally is a great hero. Dean Heller hopefully, he's coming back. Rick Scott is another great candidate in Florida. It's the House that I worry most about. HERMAN: The desperate Democrats have made sure that there is no middle ground between what Republicans will do and what Democrats will do. You are absolutely right, either in the House or the Senate. There is no middle ground. Their desperate tactics have made sure that there is no middle ground, which is why I hear a lot of people saying they are voting a straight Republican ticket to save this country. HANNITY: If only they had 999, it would be perfect. It would be a perfect year. CAIN: Well, two out of three is not bad, Sean, OK? HANNITY: All right. Herman Cain, Governor Sununu, thank you both for being with us. When we come back, more reaction to the deplorable comments made by the media about Kanye West. We've got Joe Concha, Lawrence Jones and Jay Sekulow reacts after two years in jail in Turkey, through the work of the president and Jay, Pastor Brunson released from a Turkey prison. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We spoke to Turkey. And he went through a system and we got him out. They have been trying to get him out for a long time. REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE) TRUMP: Well, this has nothing to doer with anything. There was no deal made at all. There was no deal. But, we're very happy to have him and have him in good shape. I hear he is in very good shape. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. That was President Trump earlier tonight talking about the release of American pastor Andrew Brunson. Joining us now on the phone from the American Center for Law and Justice, also the president's attorney and also at times he's been mine, Jay Sekulow. You have worked on this case, Jay, from the very beginning. I know how hard you work. I know how hard the president has worked on this. This is great news tonight. JAY SEKULOW, AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE (via telephone): No, this is a big win. When you did the introduction I feel like I'm representing everybody tonight. But what a great day it is for the Brunson family and for Pastor Brunson himself, and the president and administration did just a phenomenal job moving this case forward. You know, Sean, I have handled a lot of these. And the fact is they are difficult. There are times when there's progress and there are times when they are not. This was even more complicated because it was a NATO ally. But the end result of it, the positive aspect of this, is that the pastor has been released unconditionally and is en route may have already landed in Germany and will be coming back to the United States as early as tomorrow. So, this is a great win and again, a huge thank you to the administration, for the administration, and to members of Congress. HANNITY: Last point, though, Jay. SEKULOW: But the president really led the charge here to get this done and I really appreciate it, so his family. HANNITY: And there was no deal. And the charge for Pastor Brunson was he was preaching the gospel, right? SEKULOW: Yes. I mean, actually, the indictment itself has the word in Turkish, of course, it's called "Christianization." And that is they view that act of running a small church, sharing the gospel as an act that was an act of terrorism. That's how they define it. HANNITY: Unbelievable. SEKULOW: This was a terrorism case, believe it or not. But, again, the great news is he has been released. He has been returned. I appreciate you covering it and, again, appreciate all the work that the president did in getting this accomplished for the family. HANNITY: All right. Jay Sekulow, I know you have been working on this since the beginning. Congratulations. The president also, a great job. Joining us now, we have more on top story from earlier tonight, the media's vitriol towards Kanye West, all of the things that have been said, why he met with the president and he was talking about solutions. You don't have to take my word for it, take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I felt like I was sitting in on a psychiatric visit. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A travesty inside of a sham inside of a mockery. Why fan the flames of the foolish? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was really quite an embarrassment. I mean, what a side show. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This was a giant, shiny object in the Oval Office wearing a red hat. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Pretty unbelievable. Joining us now with reaction, media reporter for "The Hill", Joe Concha, and editor of chief of Campus Reform, Lawrence Jones, is with us. Joe, let's start with you. You know, just when you think it can't get any lower. I mean, here we go. I listen closely to what Kanye was saying, maybe could have done without the cursing in the Oval Office. Fair comment and fair criticism. But he was talking about prison reform and I think, you know, in the case of Alice Marie Johnson who I had on this program, what a great case for prison reform. Doesn't mean that you let people out without paying a price. And he is talking about jobs and he's talking investment, and he's talking about manufacturing and factories in America, and safer cities. So, tell me why that's a problem for some people. JOE CONCHA, MEDIA REPORTER, THE HILL: Those are people important to people outside the media bubble, right, Sean? And remember, Kanye was considered poignant and brave truth-teller in 2005 when he said George W. Bush doesn't care about black people. So, it's funny how that's turned. And, look, I don't know how we got to a place now where we have rhetoric on a national news -- nationally televised news organization where you could say the words "token negro" about an African-American entertainer and anchor of that program laughs along. And, look, former CNN people are now speaking out about segments like that. Steve Krakauer was a senior digital producer at CNN. Here's what he said and I'm quoting: This is absolutely shameful segment on Don Lemon's show last night about Kanye West. And if a similar segment occurred on Fox News about a liberal black person CNN would be covering it as major news and rightfully so. That's exactly right. The pitch fork stork would run out of pitch forks. The studio -- you would be surrounded with media whore and protesters saying how could you ever say that about an African-American. I'll give you one more quote and will get to Lawrence. Glenn Greenwald and he's very honest in his convictions he's from The Intercept. Here's what he had to say. Quoting, "I can't remember an episode that has produced more crude, contemptuous, reckless stigmatizing and harmful discourse about mental health issues than the partisan anger primarily emanating from cable news and social media over the last 48 hours due to Kanye West's White House visit. I have nothing to add." that is said perfectly. HANNITY: Lawrence Jones, if somebody is African-American and they are conservative. Deneen Borelli, Niger Innis, Larry Elder. I can run through so many personal friends of mine. They are excoriated. They are dismissed, they are called every name in the book. It's horrible. Candace Owens more recently. LAWRENCE JONES, EDITOR IN CHIEF, CAMPUS REFORM: Let me tell you this, Sean. What happened in the White House yesterday was needed. People have been calling for national conversation about issues facing our community. Was is it in the way I would have did it? Absolutely not. But Kanye speak for a lot of people in the tone that a lot of people in my community have some of their experiences that they have experienced lately. And so what we've seen is a lot of people in the mainstream media that sit on their high pedestals, and attack him as being mentally unfit. They attack him as being a sell out to the community when Kanye quite frankly, has been talking about this for years. If you ever listen to his hip hop he's been talking about these issues. But he's not just getting this from the media though, Sean. He's getting this from conservative intellectuals who say he's not conservative enough. He is not saying things the right way. I'm sorry, Kanye never said he was a conservative. He is a free-thinker. He is speaking of issues facing our community. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Hey, Lawrence-- JONES: He doesn't have to check every single check box of the conservative platform to speak for our community, Sean. And if-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: His wife-- JONES: Yes? HANNITY: You know, in the case of Ms. Johnson that was released. If, you know, they are helping to make the country better. JONES: that's right. HANNITY: He is talking about safety and security in our cities. He is talking about bringing jobs and manufacturing back to America. He's talking about prison reform. I'm like those are all great ideas. This is good for everybody. JONES: Yes. But, Sean. This is not about Kanye. This is -- this goes back to Donald Trump. Because he is connected to the president of the United States, they want to bash him. We are seeing the mob happening. And I will say this. HANNITY: The president can get it done, can't he? JONES: He can get it -- he can get it done but there is a mob that's after him. And we've been reporting it at the leadership institute Campus Reform for while. It started on the college campuses. They tried to take out Kavanaugh. Now they're going to try to take out Kanye. I don't think they are going to be successful. Kanye has been doing this for a long time. HANNITY: Last word, Joe. CONCHA: Look, it's just another black eye for our media and unfortunately it's only going to get worse when the 2020 election starts in a couple of months, Sean. HANNITY: Sad. All right. Thank you both. When we come back the ladies of The View they viciously again, they've done it before attacking the first lady Melania Trump 25 days out from an election. You won't believe what they said today. That's next. HANNITY: First lady Melania Trump has long been the target of ruthless attacks from the left. And there are no signs of them slowing down. Now the women on The View well, they didn't hold back this week. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WHOOPI GOLDBERG, CO-HOST, ABC: Can we talk about this gigantic white pit helmet-- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. GOLDBERG: -- sitting in the shot and it's really-- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Gosh. GOLDBERG: -- not a good thing to see. Because it represent as lot of stuff for folks. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is also the same woman that in the midst of what happens in Puerto Rico wore a jacket that said I really don't care, do you? So when she threw down that gauntlet, I have decided not to care about anything she says from now on. What she wears, what she does. What she says. (APPLAUSE) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is it -- is it possible that she is not concerned with his mistresses because she was one of them? Is that possible? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I want to bet they would never treat Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama that way. It's pretty despicable. Now the press secretary for the first lady responded to those attacks today in this tweet saying, quote, "Day two of attacks from The View Yvette Nicole Brown, check your facts before you accuse someone of being a mistress. She is the first lady of the Unite States, she deserves your respect and certainly not your lies. Disgusting, hash tag disrespectful, hash tag, accusation, hash tag, liberal media." Here with reaction American Conservative Union chairman, Matt Schlapp,RNC spokesperson, Kayleigh McEnany. You know, if you reverse things, though, Kayleigh, it's very obvious the double standard. Because what you'd have is if this is was about Michelle Obama, if this was about Hillary Clinton, you know, not only is it's the first lady. It's Ivanka Trump. It's Ted Cruz's wife. It's Sarah Sanders, it's Pam Bondi. It's Secretary Nielsen, reverse any of these instances and what would the liberal reaction be? KAYLEIGH MCENANY, SPOKESPERSON, RNC: It would be out of this world, Sean. There are two standards here. One for conservative women. Another for liberal women. These women on The View, these liberal leftists, they pose as feminists, Sean but they are not feminists. They are faux feminists. They are fake feminist. They have put on a platform, Hillary Clinton who has a history, a documented history of bullying the accusers of Bill Clinton. They put her on a pedestal while claiming the beacon of feminism. It is wrong, it is abhorrent and those are shameful comments that you just made. HANNITY: Let's talk, Matt, about that double standard. And I know your wife Mercedes has come under fire a number of times unfairly probably one of the nicest people like Melania you'd ever meet in your life. MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: Yes. This is true. You just give people a little view of Melania. She doesn't get out there and do a ton of public things because she is raising her son. She is a wonderful mother, she is a wonderful life. And she-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They've attacked him too. SCHLAPP: Of course. HANNITY: They've attacked a 190-year-old. SCHLAPP: Of course. HANNITY: Now a 12. SCHLAPP: They'll attack everyone but let's really look at this trip. First of all, she goes overseas and, you know, it's inappropriate probably to comment on someone's looks. But let's face it, she is a stunner. She looks great. She a fashion icon overseas. Here they won't put her on the covers of any of magazines. Overseas they all know that she is epic. When she went over there she also was asked about the Kavanaugh controversy. And I have a theory. They didn't like her answer because her answer was you are innocent until you are proven guilty and there are ought to be a better more fairer system. And they are sure taking it out on her. Do you know what it is? It's like a gathering of the mean girls and I think most women see this for what it is. HANNITY: What is the answer considering that the media would absolutely be apoplectic if it was conservatives or conservative activists doing what they do to Melania to any other woman. But, again, attacking the confronting in restaurants, et cetera, Kayleigh? MCENANY: Yes. That's right. You know, there are two standards as I said. I was over at CNN and had to talk about Hillary Clinton. I was told by several of my co-panelists remember to treat her with respect. Let her take her rightful place in history as the first, you know, soon to be first female president. Well, that's the standard Hillary Clinton gets. Melania Trump, on the other hand, the press makes up conspiracy theories about her when she is undergoing a health procedure. They make up her-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: that was horrible. SCHLAPP: that was horrible. MCENANY: Horrible. Make up things about her son, make up all sorts of things about her immigration status, her marriage. They attack her ruthlessly but she rises every time they attack. HANNITY: Everything. Like with the Kavanaugh case I see an overreaching on their part, meaning the left's part, Matt Schlapp, and 25 days out of an election, I think this might be, it could be what makes the big difference. SCHLAPP: I don't think -- I don't think the Democrats understand something about the American people. They are decent. They believe people should be treated with dignity and fairness. When you step over the line, yes, of course they are going to take it out on you. But Melania Trump she represents us oversees. She is our first lady, you know. I would say hands off her son. I'd say be decent to her. And I do think the Democrats are over reaching. Let me tell you something. The House is going to come down to about 25 seats decided by two points or less. It's all in the razor's edge. And the mob mentality and this meanness I think it does nothing but help the Republican cause. HANNITY: Yes. All right. Well, thank you both. Having met Melania on a number of occasions. SCHLAPP: Yes. HANNITY: Wonderful, loving, amazing person. English her fifth language. An amazing mom. One of the nicest people you'll meet. All right. Thank you both. When we come back now Fusion GPS co-founder following Rod Rosenstein's lead, well, he is now allegedly refusing to appear before the House judiciary committee next week. He wants to invoke the fifth. We'll check in with Catherine Herridge with the full report. Congressman Jim Jordan, Sara Carter, and Gregg Jarrett as we continue this busy Friday news night straight ahead. HANNITY: Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson is defying Congress reportedly refusing to appear before lawmakers next week. Joining us now with all the details in Washington, our own Catherine Herridge. Catherine, first Rod Rosenstein and now we got Glenn Simpson. CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CHIEF INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: that's right, Sean. Glenn Simpson will plead the fifth next week rather than testify to Congress. His firm Fusion GPS was paid by the DNC and Clinton campaign for its work on the so-called Trump dossier. In this letter of Simpson lawyer questioned the House judiciary committee's motives saying, "The goal of this committee is to discredit and otherwise damage witnesses." Last year Simpson told another House panel that he first met with Justice Department official Bruce Ohr after the 2016 election. That contradicts Ohr's own e-mails that show contacts months earlier. Ohr as you know became a back channel to the FBI for the dossier after British soy Christopher Steele was fired. A review by Fox News of congressional testimony court records and other related documents indicates at least five sources brought the dossier to the FBI's attention before and after Election Day. Earlier this year, former FBI director James Comey seemed vague about the dossier and what he knew about its political origins. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRET BAIER, FOX NEWS CHIEF ANCHOR: The Steele dossier comes out sometime early July. When did you personally learn about the memos and the dossier? JAMES COMEY, FORMER UNITED STATES FBI DIRECTOR: Sometime in the fall. I don't remember exactly when. BAIER: You are talking fall of. COMEY: I'm taking fall '16. BAIER: Right. COMEY: I remember being given a copy of it. I don't know whether it was September, October, sometime in that period of time. (END VIDEO CLIP) HERRIDGE: The Washington Times is reporting that Glenn Simpson will defy Congress and not show up next week on Capitol Hill to take the fifth. Sean, we're working to independently confirm that reporting. HANNITY: All right Catherine Herridge in Washington, thank you. Here with reaction, author of the number one New York Times bestseller "The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump," Fox News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett, also Fox News contributor, Sara Carter, and Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan. Thank you all. Congressman, let's start with you. Because we now have a situation where Glenn Simpson won't testify. Rod Rosenstein won't testify. REP. JIM JORDAN, (R) OHIO: Yes. HANNITY: Congress doing their job of oversight has been obstructed the entire way. And you wait years and you still don't get documents and they never told the court and FISA about the political origins, meaning Clinton bought and paid for all of this. JORDAN: Yes, you are exactly right there. There is a pattern here. We should compel Glenn Simpson. We should make him come out and come to Congress and assert his privilege. He shouldn't just to be able to phone it in. He should have to come there. But understand what they're trying to do there. They're just trying to run out the clock. They actually want the Democrats to win. And if the Democrats win, they are never going to be called in front of Congress and we'll never get the answers for the American people. That's their goal. And Simpson is just part of the bigger pattern. Louis Lerner at the IRS targets conservatives, she takes the fifth. Brian Pagliano sets up Clinton's e-mail system and e-mail server, he takes the fifth in front of Congress, and now Glenn Simpson, the guy hired by the Clinton campaign who went out and hired Christopher Steele to put together the fake news dossier, he has taken the fifth. And frankly, I'm tired of it and I know the American people are. HANNITY: Sara, you got now the political origins that was literally never told to the FISA court. Four warrants. The bulk of information is the phony dossier. He, again, helped put this thing together with Christopher Steele. And beyond the fraud, now you have this institutionalized obstruction and the people involved they won't even talk about it. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, they won't-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And they won't even go to Congress, they won't hand them documents on it. CARTER: Well, which is the reason why Congress should subpoena Rod Rosenstein. That should be on their agenda. And this is the reason why Glenn Simpson should be found in contempt. If he doesn't come and discuss this before Congress. We know a couple of things, Sean, based on the reporting today base on sources that I've spoken to. It appears that Glenn Simpson lied. And if he did, he needs to explain himself. And this is something Congress should hold him accountable for. Glenn Simpson, remember, he was the one that was apparently spreading all of the stories about the alpha server. The Russian bank that was communicating with Trump tower. And then we eventually figured out based on evidence that that was not not true. The FBI threw that out the minute they started looking at it. But it didn't stop Glenn Simpson from spreading malicious lies through the media. Which he was doing even with the dossier. I mean, over and over again we've said this, Sean. It looks like the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC were the only ones colluding. Colluding with Fusion GPS, colluding with British foreign intention asset. A former Christopher Steele who was then colluding with the Russians. There is no evidence that President Trump had any kind of collusion or communication with the Russians during the election. So, the entire special counsel was really based on false premises. HANNITY: It was based on it. But now it all begins to fits together, Gregg Jarrett. And that is that now we know the leak strategy was about because Lisa Page had said there is no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Sure. HANNITY: Peter Strzok even said there's no there-there. So nine months in they had absolutely nothing. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: So then the leak of the dossier begins to create the impression that something had happened. But that's Hillary bought and paid for Russian lies. JARRETT: Sure. HANNITY: You now, irony of all ironies then we got guys apparently talking about wearing a wire against the president of the United States. JARRETT: Sure. HANNITY: And maybe trying to invoke the 25th Amendment. JARRETT: You know, president Trump said recently I don't have an attorney general and he is right about that. On the very first day in office, Jeff Sessions began his recusal from the case. If the president had a real and confident attorney general, he would have called Comey into his office and said show me your evidence. And that attorney general would discover there was no evidence. He would have said show me the evidence in the FISA warrant applications to spy on the Trump campaign and would have discovered that it was all conjured by Hillary Clinton based on fabricated evidence. And that good and competent attorney general would have marched over to the White House and told the president you must fire James Comey for violating a myriad of regulations and launch a serious investigation in front of the grand jury into the Russia hoax. HANNITY: Well, it sounds like we are getting there, though. Because now you very, you know, with James Baker is testifying and Lisa Page apparently telling some truth and Andrew McCabe in trouble, they all seem to be turning on each other. Here is the question. Will we ever get the declassified unredacted 302 gang of eight information, the FISA warrants, and do you all believe that this is now coming to a head and backfiring and people will pay the price? Jim Jordan? JORDAN: Yes. I think we should get all of that information. We have asked for it multiple times. If you remember a few weeks ago the president initially said he was going to it, now he is running it through the inspector general. So hopefully soon we get it. HANNITY: Sara? CARTER: Absolutely. I think the 302s will come before anything else. But I certainly believe that the gang of eight documents and FISA will also come maybe even after the election that might be a little bit of a weight. HANNITY: Gregg? JARRETT: Well, the rats are trapped in a cage and they are gnawing at each other and they are going to turn each other in and sing like canaries. HANNITY: OK. Great -- very descriptive word smith. Very good job. All right. Thank you all. And when we come back, Rush is asking why are Democrats so angry if they think they are going to win in 25 days. That's actually a really good question. That's straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. So yesterday Rush Limbaugh had a great question for Democrats. This is brilliant. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: Why are they so mad, folks? Why all the desperation? They are going to win the House. They are going to win the Senate. Mueller is going to prove that Trump colluded with Russia. Between inciting violence and launching racist attacks, we are witnessing an attempt to bully the American population into surrender. That is what's happening here. Democrats are strangely angry at a time when they think everything is going their way. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: What a great point. They think they are going to win. Why are they so angry? Why the mobs? All right. Unfortunately, that's all the time we have left this evening. As always, thank you for being with us. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham takes it over from here. We are always fair and balanced. We hope you have a great weekend. 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No divergent ideas are allowed and sometimes they are pretty viciously intolerant of any political differences then and end up watching deeply personal and destructive attacks against anyone who violates their orthodoxy. Most recently, someone like a Kanye West or Justice Brett Kavanaugh. They felt their scorn. Tonight, as we barrel toward the midterms, we will reveal the latest attacks and the possible political fallout. Tucker Carlson, Raymond Arroyo, Corey Lewandowski and Howie Kurtz all here and many more. But first, the odious Kanye West pilon (ph). The outrageous attacks on Kanye West continue as the left pulls its hair out over this meeting that Kanye had yesterday with President Trump. Now check this out, MSNBC guest Michael Eric Dyson, you have seen him a lot on cable news. He pretty much called Kanye just too stupid to talk to the president on any issues regarding race and trying to give the president cover on what he really is, I guess, just a white nationalist. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL ERIC DYSON, SOCIOLOGY PROFESSOR: We as African-American people cannot stand idly by while you give cover to a man who has proved to be a white supremacist, who has no interest in the African-American people. This is such a blitzkrieg of blathering ignorance. Kanye, please cease the interventions through media of trying to engage issues about which you don't have sophisticated comprehension and knowledge. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Sophisticated knowledge like Beyonce and Jay-Z went in the Obama White House. All right, meanwhile, Donna Brazile is accusing Kanye of setting African-Americans back 155 years. Look at that. Joining me now, Pastor Darryl Scott, CEO of the National Diversity Coalition for Trump, Leo Terrell, civil rights attorney, Jeffrey Lord who served in the Reagan administration and is a contributing editor to the American Spectator anmd with me in studio, Garland Nixon, radio talk show host and political analyst. All right guys, great to have you all on. Thanks for joining me. And now, Leo, let me start with you. I just have to go back to what Michael Eric Dyson said, white supremacy by ventriloquism. Now, to me when hear that, Leo, I mean, just set aside politics. If a conservative said that about an African-American celebrity who was liberal, who was showing up with Obama or Clinton or anyone on the left for that matter, there would be hell to pay. But because Kanye is in the oval with the president, it is okay to call it a minstrel show, call him stupid, call him insane. And now, he is just a dummy with Donald Trump operating his dummy body. How could you think that that was a good thing? LEO TERRELL, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: Well, let me be very clear. I am not going to condone the personal attacks by Dyson. But I will simply say this. I was embarrassed when I saw Kanye West speak yesterday. It was a photo opportunity for Trump. Why was I embarrassed Laura? Because I challenge anyone on this panel to say that the elimination of the 13th Amendment is a good idea, that stop and frisk exist. Kanye West does not have the skill set to talk about the 13th amendment, which he did yesterday, stop and frisk, which does not exist and Kanye West is a guy who said that George Bush hates black people. Let me be very clear. He is not a Condoleezza Rice. He is not a Colin Powell, and you no Michael Steele (ph). Kanye West does not have the skill set to talk about any of those subjects and I challenge anyone on this panel to tell me they support the idea of eliminating the 13th amendment. Please. Tell me if that is not whacko. INGRAHAM: Well, I don't -- I'm not getting you on the 13th amendment. I'm not sure he ever said it in those terms but -- TERRELL: That's what Kanye West said. It should be eliminated. INGRAHAM: So let's go to -- OK, let's go to Pastor Scott. Pastor Scott, Kanye West is a very unconventional figure, let's just put it that way. I mean, his music is very popular. He is one of the top rap artists in the world. He speaks to a certain, you know, segment of the population. Again, very wealthy, incredible entrepreneur. Not my cup of tea but he comes out and he says a few things about fatherhood and people who lack masculine role models. I love this president. I want him to be successful. And suddenly, he becomes, oh, my god, he is the KKK. I thought the reaction to him was just way over the top and I was wondering why? What are your thoughts? DARRELL SCOTT, NATIONAL DIVERSITY COALITION FOR TRUMP: Kanye West critics and detractors, they have a problem with how he said what he said and who he said it to. His content, when you dissect the content of what he said, what did he say that was so wrong? Even when my brother was talking about his abolishment of the 13th amendment. There is a component I the 13th amendment that legalizes slavery for criminals with blacks being disproportionately incarcerated. TERRELL: You are wrong. You are wrong. SCOTT: Man, I didn't interrupt you. Calm down. TERRELL: You are wrong. SCOTT: With blacks being disproportionately incarcerated. He is saying that and I had a brother-in-law that served years in prison and he said it is turning into institutionalized slavery. They don't like that Kanye West is his own man and whatever you say he is not qualified to speak on, he is qualified to have his own opinion. TERRELL: You don't know what you're talking about the 13th amendment. You're wrong. SCOTT: He doesn't try to be a Condoleezza Rice. He doesn't try to be anybody else but a Kanye West. And you know what I don't like? All the people that criticize the fact that he went up there -- (CROSSTALK) TERRELL: You are ignoring what he said. SCOTT: All the people that refused an opportunity to go themselves, Kanye West was there unfiltered and the president allowed him to be. TERRELL: He is not qualified. He is not qualified just like you. SCOTT: They don't have the courage to go up and sit down with him and talk him so, then you can't stand outside and throw rocks. Grow a pair and go up there and talk to him yourself. INGRAHAM: OK. I want to go to Garland here because I actually think this is an interesting moment. And it is an interesting moment because the conversation about race in America to me is stuck. It is not moving beyond where it is right now. And again, Kanye is kind ifof this unconventional guy. He's an entrepreneur. He's a businessman. He's a rapper. He starts small business. He is interested in technology. I don't know him. I don't know really much about him but to me and what he is saying is, let me think for myself. Don't denounce me because I actually like this guy who is president and want to make him successful. And I think to myself why would the liberals be against that. Everyone is for freedom of thought, be who you want to be, express who you want to be. So why are liberals so exercised about one guy? You got the whole celebrity community on your side. One guy who says he likes Trump. GARLAND NIXON, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: I think there are two dynamics going on here. The first one and let's be real and let's be honest about this. Within the black voting bloc, Donald Trump is absolutely loathed. And that -- INGRAHAM: 36 percent approval is not bad. NIXON: I'll tell you what. INGRAHAM: 36 percent approval yesterday by Rasmussen. NIXON: Let's talk about -- INGRAHAM: It's double it was last year. You guys are worried about that, are you? (CROSSTALK) NIXON: Hold on a second. I understand those numbers. Let's talk about the second or third week of November and see if those numbers hold up, which they certainly won't. (CROSSTALK) NIXON: Number two, and that's you've got Kanye West, a guy with -- and let's be honest, he does have a history of some mental issues and some outrageous statements. A guy who is worth $350 million to $400 million. He does not speak for the black community. INGRAHAM: Who does? NIXON: If Donald Trump was to ask me to speak with him tomorrow, I would but I would expect to be vilified, because I know the black community hates him so bad that I better be ready -- (CROSSTALK). INGRAHAM: Garland -- hold on, hold on, hold on. Garland -- hold on, hold on guys, hold on. Do you think when you say the black community hates him so bad, how does that advance the black community to say that? NIXON: I don't think it advances the black community, but let me tell you something about the history of the black community in politics. INGRAHAM: Because they didn't think that -- they didn't think that -- wait a second! Wait. They didn't think that five years ago. He was a featured guest and celebrity on music videos and movies. He was revered by the entertainment industry, the sports industry but suddenly Donald Trump is running the country. We got the lowest unemployment in 49 years for the country, historically low unemployment for African-Americans, still need work to do but we are making some progress. So when you say they hate Donald -- there is something that is not adding up here, Garland. I'm honestly trying to make progress here and not just doing a talking point. There seems to be a bridge that can be built between what the president wants to accomplish for America and African-Americans. Do you think so? NIXON: Absolutely not. INGRAHAM: Not? NIXON: Let me tell you what -- INGRAHAM: Prison reform and what he's doing? NIXON: Forget it. INGRAHAM: Forget it. NIXON: The black community -- when they saw a bunch of guys in Charlottesville with Nazi flags and Donald Trum, that was it. There is no coming back. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Let's go to Jeffrey Lord. Jeffrey, you haven't spoken yet. Jeffrey Lord, go ahead. JEFFREY LORD, CONTENT EDITOR AMERICAN SPECTATOR: Laura, you hit it exactly on the head. Kanye West walked off the liberal plantation and that is something that is not supposed to be done and now they are coming from him. Laura, I am going to read you a line, which I know you recognize well, since it was said by Justice Clarence Thomas for whom you clerked. And the line is, what he was put through, what Justice Thomas was put through was a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who had anyway deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas. That is exactly what is going on here. TERRELL: What does that have to do with Kanye West? That is si irrelevant. IMGRAHAM: Hold on, Leo. Leo, just hold on. LORD: Kanye West said the other day, I'm an American. He is an American. He has every right to think whatever he chooses to think and he should not be come for and not have people going after him like this in this is disgraceful performance. I mean, this is disgusting. Disgusting what you're doing. TERRELL: He didn't know what he was talking about. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Shame on you. LORD: He is an American hero for having the guts to stand up and say what he believes. (CROSSTALK) TERREL: Laura Ingraham has done a beautiful job of talking about Kanye has a right. No one is questioning that. But Laura Ingraham, you know as well as I do, as a lawyer, what came out of his mouth, the content, made no sense -- INGRAHAM: OK, I have a question for you, Leo. Leo, I have a question for you. When Lebron James comes out and says as he did some months back that, you know, Donald Trump, I'm paraphrasing it. It's not an exact quote, but he doesn't, you know, he doesn't care about people. It was featured everywhere. I mean, Lebron James is an amazing person, incredible athlete but I don't know how much he studies politics. Maybe he studies a lot, maybe he doesn't. But like, you know, do you throw out a few blankity blank lines about Trump and suddenly you are a hero in the liberal sports world. And then if you criticize Lebron James -- oh my god, you can't criticize Lebron James but Kanye West does it in the oval office and suddenly it is, you don't know anything. Does Kanye West know any less than Lebron James knows about politics? Probably not. TERREL:: Great point. INGRAHAM: All I'm saying is probably not, but probably about the same because it is not their -- it is like I don't know anything about basketball, I don't know anything about rap music. That's OK, but they have a right to speak out. That's my point. TERRELL: Great point, Laura. You make a good point about Lebron James and Kanye West. The point here is everyone on this panel, you heard the content of the 13th amendment and stop and frisk. Everyone on this panel knows there is no stop and frisk in this country. And that came out of Kanye West mouth, and what's scary about it is he has a platform in the White House.. INGRAHAM: No, no, no. What you are saying here -- no, no, no I understand what you are saying. Leo, you are monopolizing the panel and I love that. You have so much emotion. But there is a push to bring back stop and frisk because people think including I think Rudy Giuliani, that it actually was successful in stopping crime. He was coming out and saying, we don't want stop and frisk. So, he was actually acting I think in a proactive way for what he happens to believe. I want to go though to Pastor Scott. Pastor, again, I think there is an enormous amount of progress that can be made on race relations. And I think it is going to probably come from new people. It's not going to come from probably anyone on this panel. It is going to come from new thinkers, people from different walks of life. And it is going to bust the old stereotypes. I don't know if it is Kanye West. Maybe it is not. But I don't like the idea of casting off people as deplorables or he is stupid or he is mental. I don't know. He is a person. Judge him for what he is. SCOTT: Laura, the black community doesn't hate Trump. The black media hates Trump. The black media is a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party that hates Trump. The black men on the street they don't hate Trump. They like his policies. They like the fact that unemployment is an all time low -- TERRELL: You don't speak for the black people. You don't speak for the black people. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: All right. Nobody speaks for anyone. We are speaking for ourselves. Go ahead. SCOTT: I talked to some guys earlier from chicago. The guys on the street of Chicago appreciate Kanye West standing up for them, speaking up for Larry Hoover, speaking up for other people and conditions in Chicago and saying we want to make those conditions better. You guys are upset because he is not allowing himself to be a puppet for the Democratic Party. (CROSSTALK) TERRELL: Shame on you. Shame on you. Shame on you. (CROSSTALK) SCOTT: -- black stuff, but you don't mind vilifying or crucifying another black man on television. You don't mind doing that? You're a hypocrite. TERRELL: Shame on you. INGRAHAM: All right. Let's go to Don Lemon. OK, hold on. I want to go to Don Lemon. This is something he said that had a lot of heads turning and involved the phrase minstrel show and Kanye. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DON LEMON, CNN HOST: I actually feel bad for him. What I saw was a minstrel show today. Him in front of all of these white people, mostly white people, embarrassing himself and embarrassing Americans, but mostly African- Americans because everyone of them is sitting either at home or with their phones watching this cringing. I couldn't even watch it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, this is from someone who is doing some type of shot on New Year 's Eve on the cameras, speculated that a black hole could have swallowed up the Malaysian airliner, talking about something -- I usually like don lemon. He is like a nice guy but, again, it is the pejorative. It is not dealing with any of the substantive issues that are actually on table, the lack of father figures, how African- American kids and all kids without father figures gravitate toward others who can give them guidance. That racism as a weapon, instead of racism as something we want to defeat and then move beyond. I was actually disappointed with Don Lemon and the minstrel show comment because certainly no conservative could have ever said that. Garland. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Hold on. Hold on. Let Garland speak, please. Hold on UNIDENTIFIED MALE: See, I don't know about minstrel shows. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Hold on guys. Garland is speaking. NIXON: Yes, I got a cringe because the thing about it is it's the person. I like Kanye West. I don't dislike him and I have nothing against him. But, you know, you remember the Taylor Swift issue. You never know what he is going to say and you are always -- I am always on the edge waiting for cringe when says -- he's in an alternate universe and things. Let's face it, he is not the right spokesman. And now, it appears that conservatives are holding up this guy -- INGRAHAM: I'm not. NIXON: -- he is not the best spokesman as though he is like speaking for all the wonderful things Trump is doing for black people in America. INGRAHAM: I don't think any one speaks for any one big group. When Jesse Jackson comes out and he says he represents all black people. I always have people on my radio show who say Jesse Jackson is an interesting guy. He was with MLK. He was big for me so, anyone who says that he speaks for -- TERREL: And Garland doesn't speak for me either. Garland doesn't speak for me. INGRAHAM: Yes. I get it. So, everybody is speaking for himself or herself, I understand that. All I'm saying is, I think all of us are trying to get to the point where individuals of any color can speak their mind and have their ideas judged for what they are, for what they are. NIXON: But the question is, is Kanye a credible spokesperson for the issues of black America? And I think most black Americans are looking at it and saying no. He hit on a couple of issues that I would say I agree, but it was muddled. INGRAHAM: Is Lebron James? NIXON: No. INGRAHAM: Is Lebron James? NIXON: No, but he didn't say much. (CROSSTALK) SCOTT: He can speak for himself. He can give his truth. INGRAHAM: Everyone -- guys, guys, everyone has their truth, and I am not putting down Lebron James. He has a right to speak and campaign for whoever he wants, but all I'm saying is when one of the best, if not the best basketball player on Earth speaks and does a rally for Hillary, nobody is saying, what's his expertise. Suddenly, they are saying Kanye has no expertise, well, versus whom? I don't know. I just think we got to be clear on, you know, what we are talking about here and who is representing what group. I think the more voices, the better. That's my view. Judge everybody for their opinions and whatever they are and I think it is a good thing. And I value all my opinions tonight, every one of you. All right, guys, for more insight into the mind of President Trump and the conservative populism that drives him, make sure to pick up a copy of my new book in paperback now, "Busting The Barricades: What I Saw at the Populous Revolt." It is in bookstores everywhere. And coming up, cable news hosts, particularly some at CNN, have donned their psychiatry caps to diagnose Kanye as, well, totally crazy. Up next, one of the country's pre-eminent psychology professors is here to tell us why that language might be damaging. Don't go away. INGRAHAM: You know what's not OK using someone's mental health struggles as a weapon when you attack them for, you know, basically, you don't have an argument against them so you just say they are nuts. Well, of course, that's what they are doing with Kanye West. His political views not all that important, but you just hurl insults at him to try to demonize him. It is simply disgusting. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) LEMON: This was an embarrassment. Kanye's mother is rolling over in her grave. JIMMY KIMMEL, LATE NIGHT HOST: Not only was this a crazy conversation for this White House. This is the kind of conversation that would typically be held between people wearing hospital bracelets. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't know if he is open to help but I just feel like this is a public cry for help and he is not getting any help. TREVOR NOAH, DAILY SHOW HOST: There was a ranting lunatic in the oval office today. LEMON: Kanye, back away from the cameras, go get some help and then come back and make your case. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Get help? Dr. Lemon, why are you stigmatizing people who battle mental health issues? How dare you try to minimize what Kanye is saying because he is open about some of the mental health issues he has had? I think you owe Kanye and everyone else dealing with the struggle an apology and you need to do better. Don Lemon is actually a good guy. He knows better. Joining me now, is Patrick Corrigan, psychology professor and author of the book, "The Stigma Effect." All right professor, now how deleterious is it for anyone in the media, left wing, right wing, to exploit another person's medical history as was done just over the past 24 hours regarding Kanye West? PATRICK CORRIGAN, PSYCHOLOGY PROFESSOR: Reducing somebody's conversation to illegitimacy by saying they are mentally ill is in the same category as a stigma related to racism, sexism, homophobia. It is saying that your message doesn't count because once upon a time you had an experience with bipolar disorder or rather illness. The stigma and mental illness is not trivial. People labeled with mental illness are unable to get jobs, live independently, get good health care. And it is all because messages like this perpetuate them as being different or worse than we are. INGRAHAM: And professor, it seems like it would deter people from getting counseling. Let's say they lost a parent, went through a difficult time, if they know later on they are going to be described as one of those people who got help. And as someone who knows a lot of people over the years who have gone through especially with death of children, death of parent, gone through incredibly difficult periods of time, we want to encourage people to be able to talk to others, to get help. And to me, in this case, its mostly liberals sadly in this situation who are demonizing someone just because, I guess, they are in the oval office with Trump and thrown in the crazytown deal as a way to demonize him and dismiss him. CORRIGAN: Any time you throw in the word crazy, whether it comes from the left or it comes from the right, it undermines the opportunities of people who struggle with mental illness. And by the way, that's a lot of people. Epidemiology suggests it could be one out of five people have a serious mental illness. The stigma fundamentally comes from the label. I am seeing somebody come out of the psychiatrist office and I know they must be nuts or coming out of the counselor's office and they must be crazy. And so they are going to avoid those kind of places so they don't get those kind of labels, and they are not going to get the kind of treatment you were just talking that we know really will work. INGRAHAM: Professor, thank you so much for your insight. And Obama's White House, by the way was a revolving door for celebrities. Remember the policy summit he had with rappers Common, Busta Rhymes and Ludacris about a criminal justice reform. You probably don't because the left wing media didn't freak out over it like they did when one guy goes to the Oval Office yesterday, Kanye West. Joniing us now with reaction, double standard extraordinaire, of course, Howie Kurtz. Howie, of course Media Buzz, great show on the weekends on Fox. Howie, this is wild because I remember when Kanye came and then he did his poetry slam at the White House. I mean, truth be told, I actually kind of, you know, laughed at it because I thought the poem was really bad that he did on stage, but Obama was just really at ease with celebrities and obviously, they loved him. No one cared. HOWARD KURTZ, FOX NEWS HOST: Obama's celebrities, Obama's rappers, they wee -- they had the approved ideology so it was OK. The media kind of celebrated it. Look, what Kanye did in the oval office, it is fine for critics to say, it was weird, it was strange, it was bizarre. Even Donald Trump seemed kind of speechless for a moment. But the brutal nature of some this criticism is clearly driven by ideology. When Kanye West was talking about George Bush doesn't care about black people -- INGRAHAM: I criticized him for that. KURTZ: Yes, but a lot of these liberals said, oh, he is a really cool dude. And now because he is wearing the red hat and he's embracing Donald Trump, he must be loco. INGRAHAM: What are the chances like next week he will be wearing like a Cory Booker hat? Is there any chance? All right, Jackie Speier, I want to play this for you Howie. Congresswoman from California said this about Kanye and his mental health. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. JACKIE SPEIER (D), CALIFORNIA: It was a combination of stream of consciousness. I felt like I was sitting in on a psychiatric visit and a commercial for Donald Trump. It wasn't newsworthy certainly but I would suggest that the president should maybe curtail these kinds of engagements. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well Howie, 36 percent approval from Rasmussen among African- Americans. That is double from last year, same poll. It seems like they are more worried about the Kanye effect on the midterm elections than they are about Kanye's mental health. KURTZ: Well, here we see the mental health issue being brought up again. And you know, in addition to the congresswoman, it seems like the harshest criticism is coming from other African-American. You played Don Lemon dragging Kanye's late mother into it. CNN contributor Tara Stmayer said he was a token negro. I haven't heard that phrase in decades. And so, it is rooting in the notion that if a black person -- black people who are for somebody like Donald Trump, they can't know what they are talking about. They are completely misinformed there, they have serious issues and all of that. And that, you know, they no longer have a monopoly. And so the piling on here against Kanye West, who is an entertaining guy, like you say probably don't know that much about politics. INGRAHAM: More so than who? Matt Damon? KURTZ: Yes. And he was there to talk about actually a serious issue like his wife Kim Kardashian did so. The freak out is just so over the top that I think it can only be written off as idealogical opposition to a guy who thinks a little differently. INGRAHAM: We'll be watching "Media Buzz" this weekend Howie. Thanks so much for being with us. And the P.C. language, police strike again. Whoopi Goldberg reveals a HeToo moment. Those are just some of the topics ahead on Friday Follies with Raymond Arroyo. Plus, Hillary Clinton losses her security clearance. Oh, I'll tell you more coming up. INGRAHAM: It's Friday. That means it's time for Friday Follies. Political correctness is now messing with our language. And did Whoopi Goldberg just admit her own he too moment? For all the details we are joined Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series. Raymond, I hope you can do this without injuring yourself. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I will try. INGRAHAM: OK, what am I now not allowed to say? What words can I not say, P.C. police? ARROYO: We came across this article in a San Francisco periodical where the term "Indian summer" may not be used anymore. INGRAHAM: What? ARROYO: In political correct thought you shouldn't use Indian summer. INGRAHAM: They're putting up the words too fast. ARROYO: We'll get to those in a second. But the problem is this. INGRAHAM: Take those down. ARROYO: Indian summer may have its origin in cargo ships traveling the Indian ocean. It may have nothing to do with Native Americans. We don't know the exact origins. INGRAHAM: What other words. Now you can put them up. ARROYO: There are other words we cannot use any longer. Words like "Indian summer," "sitting Indian style," "off the reservation," don't say "off the reservation," Ingraham. "Blackball." INGRAHAM: "Blackball," I used that today. ARROYO: "Whitewash." Don't use "whitewash," you will offend me. "Inmates running the asylum." INGRAHAM: I used that yesterday. ARROYO: And one you talked about earlier, "freshman." You can't use "freshman" anymore. INGRAHAM: You can't just say first year. You can't say "freshman"? ARROYO: Because you are discriminating against women. INGRAHAM: I thought it was fresh, like, don't be fresh, man. OK. ARROYO: There was a new poll by a group called More in Common. They found 80 percent of people, 80 percent found political correctness a problem. INGRAHAM: The worst. ARROYO: But when you break it down by race, 79 percent of whites, 82 percent of Asians, 87 percent of Hispanics, and 75 percent of African- Americans think political correctness is a problem. INGRAHAM: But then it said hate speech a problem, 82 percent. ARROYO: Yes, 82 percent of people thought hate speech -- INGRAHAM: Let's talk about Neil Patrick Harris. ARROYO: Wait, wait, wait. Speaking of the P.C. police. "The View" had a moment that few caught the other day. Actor Neil Patrick Harris revealed he did his first film with Whoopi Goldberg, and then he said this. Listen closely. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NEIL PATRICK HARRIS, ACTOR: I did my first movie ever with Whoopi Goldberg, a movie called "Clara's Heart." And we worked together on that. And she told me -- (APPLAUSE) HARRIS: She told me, I was what, 15, 16 years old. She told me on my last day of shooting that 10 years, in 10 years time she was going to have sex with me. (LAUGHTER) WHOOPI GOLDBERG, HOST, "THE VIEW": I might have. In those days you could actually have some fun like that. You can't do that now. HARRIS: I was not offended. I'm looking forward to it. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Have some fun like that. Imagine, imagine if a young female actress got up and said some Academy Award winning director had told her when she was 15 that he would have sex with her in a few years, "The View" would be asking for that guy's head and promising he would never work again. But there apparently is one rulebook for Hollywood and one rulebook for everybody else. INGRAHAM: Everyone was kind of like -- ARROYO: Ho-hum. INGRAHAM: The cat got her tongue for a few seconds. ARROYO: I did notice that. I did notice that. And James Gunn, you remember we did this story several weeks ago. In July James Gunn was the director of the big marvel "Guardians of the Galaxy." They ended up slicing his contract, canceling his involvement, and they moved him to D.C. Comics now. He is directing "The Suicide Squad." This is a guy who wrote these pedophilic like tweets. They fire him, they rehire him in a matter of months. INGRAHAM: OK, so it's a different standard. ARROYO: Where is the mercy for -- INGRAHAM: Real quick, "Conners" versus "Last Man Standing," where are we on that? ARROYO: "Last Man Standing" is the biggest breakout hit FOX has seen in seven years, FOX Network. Tim Allen's show, of course a conservative show that was bounced off of ABC. It beat the "Murphy Brown" premier by a million viewers. And you know how they pushed that. Then of course what happened next was it beat "Will and Grace" this week. The Conners is Meanwhile in full panic mode. INGRAHAM: Without Roseanne, what a shock. You predicted this. Raymond predicted "Conners" without Roseanne. ARROYO: I say three or four episodes and it is canceled. And executives are telling "The Daily Mail" they think they may have fired Roseanne too early. INGRAHAM: You think? They had a hit show and they blew it. That's all I can say. Raymond, fantastic, as always. Just hours after the GOP releases an ad comparing the left to an unhinged mob, they are proven right. Vandals defacing a New York Republican club in the middle of the night. That's next. Plus, Tucker Carlson is here to reveal Kanye's important message about men in modern society. Stay with us. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ERIC HOLDER, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL: When they go low, we kick them. REP. MAXINE WATERS, (D) CALIFORNIA: And if you see anybody in a restaurant, at a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them. REP. NANCY PELOSI, (D) HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be. (SHOUTING) SEN. CORY BOOKER, (D) NEW JERSEY: Please, get up in the face of some Congresspeople. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is this the, quote-unquote, mob? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was a new ad from the GOP capitalizing on how unhinged they believe the left has become. Here to react, former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, and former aides to Senate majority leader Harry Reid, Jon Summers. Let's start with you, Jon. I know the word "mob" is a very sensitive topic for some people, but how can you possibly dispute what you saw last week, the banging, clawing at the door, getting in your face, getting an inch from someone's face, cornering poor old Susan Collins in the elevator anything but a mob? JON SUMMERS, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: It is a lot like what we have seen on a number of occasions on the Republican side. INGRAHAM: Really, where? Where did Republicans corner people in an elevator? SUMMERS: Let's talk about the tea party protests. INGRAHAM: Never, never. SUMMERS: Please. INGRAHAM: Cornered people in an elevator? They were wearing Betsy Ross outfits. How is that threatening? SUMMERS: And they were showing up at town halls for both Republicans and Democrats and disrupting those. INGRAHAM: Asking questions. SUMMERS: They were disrupting them, with the intention of disrupting them and getting people upset. We can also talk about people showing up at Barack Obama rallies armed. INGRAHAM: Armed? Name three. SUMMERS: We can talk about Cliven Bundy and his armed militia who created a standoff. INGRAHAM: We had thousands of people. SUMMERS: And let's not forget Charlottesville. INGRAHAM: Charlottesville, first of all, is what the left continues to throw up. But Corey Lewandowski, what we saw over just the last three weeks in Washington, people with signs, "F" Kavanaugh, predator Kavanaugh, things I can't say on television. Susan Collins is about the most moderate person you can get. Jeff Flake probably had to wear a pair of depends in that elevator, he was so upset about the crowd coming in on him. I don't know. I just think that's not what America really wants right now. People are pretty happy with the economy. COREY LEWANDOWSKI, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: People are very happy by and large. This movement has gone back to the day that Donald Trump was sworn into office. The next day was the woman march in Washington, D.C. And if you remember what they did, is we saw the video footage. They celebrate by throwing rocks through storefront glass, lighting cars on fire, and having what exactly the Republicans describe as a mob taking place. And what we saw last week in Washington is hundreds of people being arrested, people clawing at the doors of the Supreme Court, running people out of restaurants, screaming at staff members who work for the government. That never transpired when the Democrats were in office. Never once did I see David Axelrod be thrown out of a restaurant because the Republicans are so angry at the policies. Never once did I see Democrat senators have to be removed from restaurants or cabinet officials because the crowd was so outrageously screaming at them because of the policies, because we don't do that. And I remember the Tea Parties well. I took place in them. I participated in them. Not only were they orderly and they were concerning and they were very well thought out, but in the end, there was no mess. We didn't light cars on fire as a sign of our angst or disgust. We left in an orderly fashion. INGRAHAM: A New York Republican headquarters was vandalized last night with all sorts of Antifa-like graffiti. Ed Cox talked about that from New York today. It happened last night. But gentlemen, both of you, before I let you go, President Trump is charging full steam ahead with the judicial appointments, including on the ninth circuit, a very liberal appeals court. We have a very limited time. He is bypassing the blue slip, meaning Feinstein and Kamala Harris don't get a sign-off. John, your reaction? SUMMERS: It is unfortunate that he is doing that because this is a process that's in place. The constituents can talk to their senators and voice their opinions about the nominee. Unfortunately, that is not happening. Not surprised it's not happening. INGRAHAM: People didn't used to leak stuff out of FBI files either, but that happened last week. SUMMERS: There is a lot happening under this administration that didn't happen before, including the separation of thousands of kids from their families. So people have lots of reasons to be upset with this -- INGRAHAM: Ninth circuit -- Corey, ninth circuit decision. We have like 10 seconds. LEWANDOWSKI: Look, 84 new judges this president has appointed. The senators had their chance to work with the White House to put a package together for the ninth circuit. They couldn't get it done because they wanted to play partisan politics. INGRAHAM: All right, out of time, but very interesting, guys. Both of you, fantastic to have you on. Coming up, FOX's own Tucker Carlson, Kanye West's message for the modern man, up next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KANYE WEST, MUSICIAN: The campaign "I'm with her" just didn't make me feel as a guy that didn't get to see my dad all the time like a guy that could play catch with his son. There was something about when I put this hat on, it made me feel like Superman. This hat, it gives me power in a way. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I am with her. Didn't Hillary Clinton think that that phrase might alienate a large part of the population? It took someone like Kanye West of all people to put a bright red hat on and say, hey, what about us? Here he is back in August explaining why the MAGA hat represents a lot more than just supporting Trump. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KANYE WEST, MUSICIAN: It represented overcoming fear and doing what you felt no matter what anyone said, and saying you can't bully me. Liberals can't bully me, news can't bully me, the hip-hop community, they can't bully me, because at that point, if I'm afraid to be me, I'm no longer Ye. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me is Tucker Carlson, host of "Tucker Carlson Tonight" and author of "The New York Times" number one bestseller, "The Ship of Fools" just knocked Bob Woodward off the number one spot on "The New York Times" bestseller list. Tucker, first of all, I'm so happy that I know you. Congratulations. TUCKER CARLSON, HOST, "TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT": Thank you, Laura. INGRAHAM: When I was going through some tough times in the last year, you were among the first people who reach out to me. And you're just such a -- you're a bestselling author, you're a top TV host, but people have to know this about Tucker. You're also just a really good person, which in Washington D.C. sometimes is hard to find. CARLSON: Well, I'm not a good person, but I have certainly been attacked. So I deep sympathy for anybody, including Kanye West, who I know nothing about and I'm not interested in. But I feel for people who are all of the sudden getting it from everybody. I really do. INGRAHAM: Yes. And I saw your show last night where you talked about the issue of fathers and missing fathers, and entire segments of America. He was talking about that. Look, he is not a political person. He is not going to speak in pundit terms. He is going to speak the way he is going to speak. Again, it is not my music, it's not my thing, nor is it yours. But that was an interesting moment where he said the masculine presence in a family is so important, and she didn't speak to me. It wasn't because she was a woman, but it was because of how she was portraying her campaign. CARLSON: And he is absolutely right. The Democratic Party is anti- masculinity and anti-father. They have to be. That's their base. And that is just true. And they have been for a long time. And not everyone in the Democratic Party, but the leadership of the party is -- ask a leading Democrat. It is really simple. I have done it, actually. You say is it better, all things being equal, there are a million exceptions to every rule, but in general is it better for kids to grow up with the dad at home? They won't say it, even though it's true. And by the way, I grew up for part of my childhood in a single parent home. It was great. I am not attacking anybody. I'm just saying, if you can't say that, then you are lying. And everyone knows you are lying. And he just kind of called them out in his stream of consciousness way. And I think we should not attack him for that. INGRAHAM: David Gergen, one of your close friends on CNN yesterday said the following. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DAVID GERGEN: Is that what's going on with some of the men in this country and their relationship to Trump? does being for Trump make them feel more masculine? I just don't know the answer to that, but boy, there was sure an overtone of it in that session. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: In other words, masculinity, the toxic masculinity, it is a brutal type of being masculine to be aligned with Trump. CARLSON: Dave is doing the best he can. I am not going to attack him. But the truth is, that's real. INGRAHAM: Why not? CARLSON: I feel bad for him. But that's real. Men feel that they can't be men, and that's not a talking point. I'm not a men's movement guy or whatever. But if you had a movement that was against toxic femininity or toxic homosexuality, you would say you are attacking people for who they inherently are, and you shouldn't do that because it is mean and actually hurts kids when you do that. And yet we send $60,000 a year to these stupid schools, these colleges that have entire departments devoted for attacking men for being men. Why are we putting up with this garbage? If you have a son, this is a huge threat to him. If you have a daughter, who is she going to marry? These are not minor questions. They're central questions. INGRAHAM: Tucker, your book has, the interesting thing about Tucker's book, it is such a great read, it's about the elites, both on the right and the left. But in your "Ship of Fools" is Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell. And both of them were critical to pushing Kavanaugh over the -- CARLSON: They did a great job this week. And I think anybody who believes in fairness should be grateful to them, and I am. INGRAHAM: We haven't gotten the wall yet, though, Tucker. CARLSON: Which is not a small thing. And by the way, when Republicans face difficulty in the midterms, maybe it is because the party ran on building a wall, not on an abstract wall, a metaphorical well, but on a physical wall, and then they sort of give the finger to their voters, well, the wall is kind of stupid. Maybe it is stupid. It doesn't matter. You promised it. If you tell me I'm getting a pony for Christmas, you better not give me a bag of hair, because I'm going to be really disappointed. INGRAHAM: I got a bag of hair once. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Tell me about your daily life. You wake up. Give me your time. If you had to just drop into Tucker Carlson's life, when you wake up in the morning, it is approximately what time? CARLSON: I wake up around 7:30 or 8:00. INGRAHAM: OK, then what's the first thing you usually do? CARLSON: My wife wakes me up every morning with a cup of coffee. She goes for a run. She comes back. She gets back in bed with me with the dogs. I sit and do e-mail and I talk to her for a couple of hours. I really try and get all my work done sitting in bed in the morning. INGRAHAM: Like Churchill, except he didn't have email. CARLSON: Yes. And then I work and I talk to a million different people. I don't go to lunch. Typically I go into work and do a ton of writing, mostly it's a writing job. And then the show ends and I go out to dinner almost every night, and with my beloved nephew tonight. INGRAHAM: So how many dogs are in bed with you at night at any given time? CARLSON: Two. Two spaniels, Meg and Dave. INGRAHAM: Are they at the top of the bed? Are they always at the foot of the bed? Do they make their way up? CARLSON: This is a very controversial question. So all four of our kids have gone. So we are the parody of the people who are very focused on their spaniels. INGRAHAM: OK, good. CARLSON: But one I think is basically mine, and my wife disputes that. And then the smaller spaniel, the sub spaniel, the reserve spaniel, is more loyal to her. INGRAHAM: Are they hunting dogs? CARLSON: Both are them are hunting. INGRAHAM: So bird dogs? CARLSON: Both are bird dogs. INGRAHAM: Pheasant, quail, what do you do? CARLSON: Pheasant, quail, chukar. INGRAHAM: Anything? CARLSON: I'm not a huge mammal hunter. I go shoot pigs once in a while. But mostly I grew up bird hunting. INGRAHAM: How about a tennis ball? Will they take that? CARLSON: They will take a tennis ball. They come fishing with me a lot. They're my fishing dogs. INGRAHAM: Tucker, I am so -- proud of you sounds condescending. I am so happy for you. Tucker is one of -- CARLSON: No one has ever asked me what you just asked me. I can't believe I said that on TV. I'm embarrassed. INGRAHAM: No, because you're like my brother. So Tucker Carlson, "Ship of Fools," get this book. It is phenomenal. It actually, you trace the elites on the left and right and how they try to steer America in one director and people actually took it and said, we are going to go into a different direction. Tucker, congratulations. You're such a great colleague. CARLSON: Thank you, Laura. INGRAHAM: Will you come on my show next week? CARLSON: Done. INGRAHAM: Can I come on your show next week? CARLSON: Any time. Are you kidding? Ratings gold. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: I'll walk over to that studio. Tucker, congratulations, again. Get this book. Phenomenal, great stocking stuffer. Early shopping for Christmas. We'll be right back with today's biggest winner and loser. INGRAHAM: OK, it's time for our winners and losers of the week. I'm going to start with a winner. American pastor Andrew Brunson, who was finally released by the Turkish government after pressure from the Trump administration with a little help from the private sector. That is him tonight with Ric Grenell, the ambassador from Germany on his way back to the United States. And previously, a photo of him with others who helped in this regard from the private sector. Pastor Brunson, we are so happy you are on your way back to the United States, and thank you to President Donald Trump. Raymond, loser of the week? ARROYO: Loser of the week is another pastor, Cardinal Donald Wuerl who the Pope accepted his resignation today. This came in the wake of the abuse scandal in Pennsylvania, of which he made some mistakes, but on the whole, Donald Wuerl did a lot of good in regard to sex abuse allegations. He dealt with them. The problem was denying he knew nothing about the McCarrick situation here in Washington. That really was his undoing. And here's the really bad thing, a lot of victims are very upset about this. Though he has resigned, he remains in charge in Washington until his successor is named. INGRAHAM: So the successor, who will be the new archbishop of Washington, D.C.? Also make sure to pick up a copy of my new book in paperback, "Busting the Barricades." You'll love it. "What I Saw at the Populist Revolt." And that's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" take it from here. Shannon? Load-Date: October 13, 2018 End of Document Twenty-Six Days Until Crucial Midterm Elections, Both Parties Working Hard To Get More Voters To Get Out And Vote For Them But Democrats Are Getting More Violent In Their Tactic And It Is Very Alarming To Some Republican Lawmakers; Kanye: MAGA Hat Makes Me Feel Like Superman; Melania Opens Up About Bullying From The Left; Rapper Kanye West Meets With President Trump In The White House And Talks About Prison Reform, Guns, Jobs And Why He Loves Wearing His MAGA Hat; President Trump Credited Republican Lawmakers For Doing An Extraordinary Job In Exposing What's Happening Behind The Russia Probe Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 11, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7622 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sebastian Gorka, Kristin Fisher, Sara Carter Guests: David Limbaugh, Mark Penn, Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino, Candace Owens, John James, Mark Meadows, John Solomon Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Hey, Tucker, number one "New York Times" list. Congratulations. We're happy for you. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Thank you, Sean. I appreciate that. HANNITY: Also, what you said, we don't get to do this without the people in this audience, the greatest audience in all of television. CARLSON: That's for sure. Yes, I agree with that. HANNITY: Congratulations, and we're proud of you. And it's great accomplishment. CARLSON: Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Welcome to HANNITY. All right. Buckle up, because in 26 days, we have midterm elections, and the country's fate, not to put pressure on you, it's all in your hands. And I have been telling you for months, the single most important midterm election in our lifetime. Democrats, the destroy Trump media, they have no shame. They're not backing down. Eric Holder is trying to walk back his "kick 'em while they're down" comments. We're going to explain that. We have a major moment today at the White House. Phenomenal. Kanye West meeting with President Trump in the Oval Office. And not surprisingly, the left is in a meltdown mode over it. You will not believe -- well, yes, I guess you should, because it's predictable -- one of the despicable comments that were made about Kanye. We've got the tape. Also, our first lady, Melania Trump, breaks her silence on being the target of bullying. And we've got the evidence to back her up. And Democrats sinking to a new law and they're trying to win, their attempts to win in November. Exclusively, Project Veritas, tonight, has exposed an explosive undercover video, we will show it to you. We got a lot to get to. All right. It's time for tonight's breaking news -- we're glad you're with us -- opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. So, earlier today, President Trump met with rapper Kanye West in the Oval Office today. They spoke about really important topics -- prison reform, job creation, safe communities in America. Kanye did not hold back his praise for the president. Here's what he said. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KANYE WEST, MUSICIAN: I think it's the bravery that helps you beat this game called life. You know, they try to scare me to not wear this hat, my own friends. But this hat gives me, it gives me power in a way. It was something about, when I put this hat on, it made me feel like Superman. You made a Superman, that's my favorite super hero, you made a Superman cape for me also as a guy who looks up to you, looks up to Americans, industry guys. Nonpolitical, no (EXPLEITVE DELETED), but the beep on it, however you do it, five-second delay, and just go ahead and get it done. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Great lesson in life -- you cannot live your life and be courageous if you care so much about what people think. Interesting comment about wearing the "Make America Great Again" hat. And, yes, we need prison reform. People like that woman, Mrs. Johnson, who was on this program, for one offense, her whole life. And the president gave her a pardon. We need jobs, yes. We're making more jobs in America. We need more -- as many as possible. We need every neighborhood in the country safe for every American. And when Kanye was being open and honest and looking for solutions and giving his opinions, when was the left doing? Attacking him. What's wrong with what he's saying? What about jobs, what about safe neighborhoods? And, of course, we see the predictable, vile, bludgeoning that we see, now sadly almost on a daily basis. The media has been relentless, even before Kanye even met with the president. Some members of the abusively biased media brought up his struggles with mental illness. Really? This is sick. And used disgusting language to describe him. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Kanye West is what happens when Negroes don't read. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Black folks are about to trade Kanye West in the racial draft. Now, all of a sudden, Kanye, because he puts on a MAGA hat and he's an attention whore like the president, he's all of a sudden, now, the model spokesperson? He's the token Negro of the Trump administration? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This was an embarrassment. Kanye's mother is rolling over in her grave. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think you had there a man who's clearly not okay, and a president who's willing to exploit that. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, it's a combination of stream of consciousness, I felt like I was sitting in on a psychiatric visit, and a commercial for Donald Trump. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: On the question of mental health, on the question of exploiting him, I felt very exploitive to me, there was something very fragile about -- and sad about Kanye pull out his phone and franticly typing in his code, it was four zeros, pulling up a weird picture of a car. I mean, just expand on that, seems like an important point, I haven't heard anyone else on television make it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: These people are just -- they totally disgust me. It's absolutely despicable. What Kanye West, and millions of other Americans are now realizing, you know what, the Democrats had eight years, they gave us a failed agenda, 13 million more Americans on food stamps, 8 million more in poverty, the lowest labor participation rate since the '70s. More debt than all presidents before him combined with Obama. Really? The first president never to hit 3 percent GDP growth. Look at what's happening. The Trump agenda is creating a future for the forgotten men and women in this country that Democrats claim that they love so much. That's a future for every American. That's a future for our kids. Ask yourself this, why is the left so threatened by a meeting talking about prison reform, and about jobs, and a better economy, and about violence in some neighborhoods and some parts of the country? Is it because the Democratic Party is exposed for having failed all these years? All of the hysteria surrounding Kanye's pro-Trump comments, is an admission that President Trump is making progress, executing on an agenda, lower taxes, less burdensome regulation, lower unemployment, economic prosperity? Fourteen states record low unemployment, Hispanic unemployment record low. Record low unemployment for African-Americans, Asian-Americans, women in the workplace? And, of course, we have more kids, more youth jobs available than we have had in 50 years. Well, Kanye is experiencing is what African-American conservatives sadly have experienced for years -- mock, demonized, ridiculed, punished by the leftist machine for daring to think on their own and questioned big government policies that have crippled people in this country and have failed miserably. Now, the modern Democratic Party is devoid of any ideas or solutions, this tired scheme of redistribution, a proven total failure. And anyone who dares to try and work with President Trump to craft real solutions that really will help people and create safer neighborhoods, is vilified. We see it today. Just look at the number of Democratic leaders encouraging mob violence against their political opponents. Just yesterday, what do we show you, video of Obama's attorney general, the top cop in the country, for whatever, eight years, less than that. Six years. Eric Holder, they go low, ditch civility, kick Republicans when they're on the ground, kick 'em. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ERIC HOLDER, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL: Michelle Obama, I love her. She and my wife are really tight, which really scared me and Barack. But Michelle always says when they go low we go high. No, no. When they go low, we kick 'em. (APPLAUSE) That's what -- that's what this new Democratic Party is about. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That's the real Eric Holder. But after the backlash, now he's trying to walk back his comments, which is phony and contrived, sends out a tweet, OK, stop the fake outrage, I am obviously not advocating violence. When in fact I was A.G., crime was at a historic low. I'm saying Republicans are undermining our democracy. Democrats need to be tough, proud and stand for the values we believe in. No, we didn't put words in Eric Holder's mouth. He said kick 'em. He made those comments. So, Eric Holder can sit and spin anyway he wants, you saw the smile on his face, a crowd that supported him. We're not stupid. We know you meant it. He meant exactly what he said. And he should have just said, yes, that's how I feel, sorry. Words like that have consequences. Now, earlier today during an interview on "Fox & Friends", the president had this to say about Eric Holder's pathetic comments. Take a look. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: They have to be careful with the rhetoric because it's very dangerous what Holder says. I mean, Holder was held in contempt by Congress. Holder went after Christians. He went after our great evangelicals. He went after the Tea Party people, you know that. They just settled, the IRS just settled that case. Holder is -- he's got some problems, and I don't see him running. If he did run, I think he'd get gobbled up before he gets to the election itself. I think the primaries would gobble him up. (END AUDIO CLIP) HANNITY: Eric Holder is not alone. Other Democratic leaders -- they've been cheering on these types tactics. This is all -- well, on tape. Take a look yourself. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. That's why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and/or the Senate, that's when civility can start again. REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you turn back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere. SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: Please, don't just come here today and then go home. Go to the Hill today. Get up and please, get up in the face of some Congress people. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: With comments like that, is it any wonder we see on a regular basis, we see Republican lawmakers, public figures, women run out of restaurants, heckled at airports, heckled in front of their wives. Look what happened to a truck in Washington state that had a pro-Trump bumper sticker on it. The owner of the car, Johnny McKay, he says he decided to take an Uber home from a local bar. And when he came back, this is what he saw, the language of the left, the people that want to be in power in 26 days, reaching new lows on an hourly basis. These sequences could be scary. First Lady Melania Trump during an interview with ABC News had this to say about how she has been treated and she's right. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MELANIA TRUMP, FIRST LADY: I would say I'm the most bullied person on the world. INTERVIEWER: You think you are the most bullied person in the world? MELANIA TRUMP: One of them, if you really see what people saying about me. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The first lady is right. She's been the focus of constant media bullying, harassment, since the day she and her husband descended from the escalators down at Trump Tower. They have been unrelenting. There are a few examples to prove her point. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PRESIDENT TRUMP: I want to really thank the first lady, Melania, who has done an incredible job. She works so hard on this event. And so I want to thank you. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, yes. Not a chance she did one thing to set that up. She didn't dye eggs. The only thing she's been working on is an escape tunnel. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was struck by Melania's statement. (LAUGHTER) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do not go -- don't do it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can't do that. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Now we know. That's why we're telling you don't do it. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No White House Easter celebration would be complete without story time from our first lady. MELANIA TRUMP: Be clever and curious, just like a cat, ask lots of questions about this and that. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: About this and that. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Today is Melania's birthday. Happy birthday, Melania. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That wasn't necessary. That's so mean. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president was there to meet the freed men, along with Melania, who is hoping to be freed next. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Yes, Jimmy Kimmel, the pervert walking around with cucumbers in his pants showing people. Really, we need Mr. Pervert judging other people? And it didn't stop there. After Melania Trump had a kidney procedure -- well, then the media couldn't understand why she was staying out of the spotlight. Maybe she was healing? Some speculated she must have had plastic surgery. One "Rolling Stone" writer questioning if she was concealing abuse. They're also ridiculing her clothing choices. I want to say this is going to stop, but we know it won't. We're going to have more example of the left's new lows in minutes. But, first, also tonight, we have a disturbing new undercover video, very revealing, Project Veritas, in the tape, what do they do, they caught people working for Tennessee Senate candidate Phil Bredesen, calling the voters of Tennessee, quote, ignorant. The people on the tape also saying that he lied when he said that he would vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh if he were in the Senate. Oh, shocking. We haven't independently confirmed the undercover video, but I think words speak for itself. We'll let you decide. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wasn't really, right? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Vote for Kavanaugh? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think so. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was so confused, because I just can't believe that he would actually vote yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He wouldn't, but he said he would. I don't know if that makes it worse or better. No, it makes it better, but still -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But what's -- like I don't understand what's the game by saying yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Moderate Republicans. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is it because it's like the voters? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. That's it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, he'll lose voters if -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, straight up. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are the people of Tennessee ignorant? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: They're ignorant, the people of Tennessee. He's not going to vote yes. That's all -- we're just doing that for show. We're lying to everyone that we want to vote for us. And asked for a comment, Tennessee Victory 2018, the coordinated campaign of the Tennessee Democratic Party, they said, oh, Project Veritas posed as a fake volunteer, and, quote, used secret video recording equipment to capture uninformed speculative comments made last weekend by college students. Those are the people that work on the campaign and youth organizers. Another stunning video, also released tonight that, could have a huge impact on the election. A video from 2011, what does it show? Arizona Democratic Senate candidate Kyrsten Sinema calling Arizonians, the people she wants to vote for her, crazy. Wow, there is a great campaign ad. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KYRSTEN SINEMAN, ARIZONA DEMOCRATIC SENATE CANDIDATE: I want to talk to you about the things that I think you can do to stop your state from becoming Arizona. It reminds me, I was born and raised in Arizona, in Tucson, near the border. When we grew up, I remember in first grade, we learned a song about Arizona, because Arizona is a state of the five Cs. So, cattle, copper, citrus, cotton, and climate. And these were the five things that our state historically made money out of. If I may add a sixth C, it's called crazy. (LAUGHTER) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The only crazy part would be if the people of Arizona fell for that act and that lie. We reached out for comment, we haven't heard back. Her campaign spokesman gave a statement to the "Associated Press", she was frustrated -- no one in the state legislature was standing up to out of state special interests, we're going to take away healthcare from children and tuition and more expense, and that's a crock of you know what also. And then there's more disturbing news about Sinema. Just yesterday, foxnews.com reported that she, quote, promised events at Arizona State University, get this, featuring a lawyer convicted for aiding an Islamist terror organization. And its leader, the lawyer in question, represented some one who was sentenced to life in prison in the 1990s for plotting to blow up the U.N. and FBI building and more, in Arizona. Republican Martha McSally, the Republican, anything a tight race. She happens to be an American hero that has served her country. I hope the people of Arizona are paying attention tonight. And the people of Tennessee are paying attention. By the way, the people in Nevada, I hope you are paying attention. Dean Heller has just a slight lead in some of the polls. That is an important seat. Marsha Blackburn, friend of show, squaring off against the phony that we exposed tonight, she is in a tight race in Tennessee. And, of course, Blackburn with a slight edge. Now, let's take a look at the House of Representatives. Now, we've been telling you 10 congressional districts tonight, these are the districts that will decide the balance of power in Washington, D.C. Do you want Nancy Pelosi as your speaker? Pay attention. Now, we're going to show 10 more House districts that voters need to keep an eye on. This will define the election results in 26 days. Arkansas, second district, where Republican incumbent French Hill in a serious battle with Democratic challenger Clarke Tucker. Next in Iowa, their first district, Republican incumbent, Rob Blum's seat, this a Freedom Caucus member, at risk of being overtaken by Democrats, is one of the Democrats' best opportunities to snag a seat. If you're in that district, you need to vote. Now, let's stay in Iowa where the third district is absolutely in play. GOP incumbent David Young has a tough fight, Trump won there by four points in 2016. Kansas, a few races to watch in Kansas, district two, Republican Steve Watkins, is taking on a Democrat, Paul Davis. Kentucky's third district, Republican incumbent Kevin Yoder. He's been challenged by Democrat Sharice Davids in a district that Hillary took by one point. That's going to be a tight race. Now you go to the Kentucky sixth district, where another incumbent, Republican Andy Barr in a tight race, against Amy McGrath. Let's go back to Nevada for a few critical races out there. Their third district, Republican Danny Tarkanian, yes, that Tarkanian, the son of, faces an uphill battle against Democrat Susie Lee. And then there's Nevada fourth, where the Republican candidate Hardy is taking on the Democrat Horsford. Wisconsin's first district, another open seat contest, Republican Brian Steele is facing Democrat Randy Bryce. This is a race to replace Speaker Paul Ryan. We need that seat to stay Republican. By the way, might want to stay and vote for Scott Walker who has done an amazing job for the people of Wisconsin, he's in the fight of his life in 26 days. In West Virginia 3, GOP candidate Carol Miller up against Democrat Richard Ojeda. And we're just 26 days out. Once again, you have the chance to shock the world like you did two years ago. You've got to go vote. Joining with us reaction, former Clinton pollster, adviser, Mark Penn. The author of the "New York Times" best seller "Jesus is Risen", David Limbaugh, and David has done some legal work for me in the past. By the way, and you have also, I've never been a great Christian that you are, your books have made me a better person. Let me put it that way, and very informative. DAVID LIMBAUGH, AUTHOR, "JESUS IS RISEN": Thank you. HANNITY: We know their agenda is, David. We see that people are openly lying. I don't see an agenda from the Democrats at all. What are they going to do to make the country better, to help the people of the country? LIMBAUGH: They utterly have no agenda. So, they pit Americans against other Americans, black against white, women against men, rich against poor. That's why they're so outraged about Kanye, because he is finally coming out and straying from the Democrat plantation. And only Democrats -- only blacks who support the liberal cause can read. We are to assume, think about what these people on MSNBC were saying, that Kanye can't read because he supports conservatives. So, that means, blacks who support policies that will help them, don't read. It's just amazing. They have no substantive policies that will work. HANNITY: Mark, I know you worked for the Clintons but you're also a pollster. The bottom line for me as an American, I want every American to have the American dream. Nice house, safe neighborhood, decent car, take their kids to Disney, go out to eat once every week or every other week, not have to worry, save a little for their retirement. We can -- that is achievable. But under Barack Obama, we went way backwards. Donald Trump's policies are working. Do you think this is an opportunity for Republicans to now bring in to the fold demographic groups that maybe have not voted Republican in the past? MARK PENN, FORMER CLINTON POLLSTER AND ADVISER: Well, look, as pollster, Donald Trump sits at about 45 percent approval. That's below the 50 percent that a president really needs despite the good economy. So there have been a lot of issues, a lot of terms, a lot of positions -- HANNITY: But he's only a bit higher than Barack Obama at the same time of his presidency. PENN: That is true, that actually he stabilized his polling. But he hasn't -- he hasn't gotten above 50. And, look, Democrats believe in the American dream too. HANNITY: What are they offering this election? What are they running on except hate Trump, open borders, keep Obamacare and take the crumbs back? PENN: There's a lot of Democrats running on healthcare. There's a belief that the Republicans didn't fix health cares. HANNITY: Obamacare healthcare. PENN: And that it's sitting out there. And Obamacare has had a resurgence from what it was. So, look, while there are a couple of people saying some really bad things, and look I don't like what Hillary said or what Holder said because I think that Michelle Obama is right, Democrats have to stay high. When they don't stay high, they basically give ammunition for you -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: -- said get into people's faces. He once said, I'm going to send Mr. Burgess to FOX News and take on Sean Hannity and tear him up. He did say that, too. PENN: Well, in fact, when he was president, he was, in fact, moved over to the center, reached out to the other side, find the place -- (CROSSTALK) PENN: I think Democrats would do a lot better if they did that today. HANNITY: But we have 13 million more Americans on food stamps, 8 million in poverty. He never reached 3 percent GDP growth. Record low unemployment for every demographic, David Limbaugh. LIMBAUGH: Yes, Obama did not reach out. He said get in the back seat of the car. We don't want you to do a lot of talking. He was the most divisive. HANNITY: You have to sit in the back, he said, yes. LIMBAUGH: So, yes, well, the Democrats do not, with all due respect to Mark, I do respect a lot, I don't think the Democratic Party does stand for the American Dream. They stand for the fundamental transformation of the American dream, the American founding principles, for actually for socialism, which historically has impoverished and enslaved people and led to totalitarianism, which is why the left is totalitarian in its tendencies, more and more. HANNITY: It doesn't just work. Obama, Obamacare, millions lost their plans, their doctors, paying double, in some cases triple by the time it was over. But I still, Mark, I know you're sincere, I do believe that. When we come back, more reaction on the left, defending this incivility. More on Eric Holder trying to backtrack, on just kick 'em. Pam Bondi, she was run out of a restaurant. Sebastian Gorka, Dan Bongino, all coming up. Busy news night. Stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Here with reaction to all the breaking news tonight, the author of "Why We Fight", just out this week, defeating America's enemies with no apologies, FOX News national security strategist Sebastian Gorka. Also out this week, they're competing for the "New York Times" top spot with Tucker Carlson, the author of "Spygate: The Attempted Sabotage of Donald J. Trump", former Secret Service agent, NRA TV contributor, Dan Bongino. Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, who herself was a victim of the mob. And, by the way, fake news CNN says you can't say it's a mob. You, Secretary Nielsen, Sarah Sanders, Ted Cruz, this is a mob that is being incited by people like Maxine waters. Follow them into department stores and restaurants. If any conservative did to a Democratic woman who was done to you, Pam, there would be fire and fury to use a phrase. PAM BONDI (R), FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: There certainly would, Sean. And it's the classic definition of a mob. If you look up what a mob is in the dictionary, it's inciting violence. And that's what they're doing. I was booed again the other night, someone saw me, and yelled my name like they had won the lottery, basically the lottery of getting to be mean to a human being. And you know that's what the world is turning into. HANNITY: But they're doing it to wives, and they're doing it to women, the very people that say that they have a monopoly, compassion, and that conservatives don't. BONDI: Exactly. HANNITY: Yes, I'm sorry you had to go through that. BONDI: Oh, I'm not going to be a victim. HANNITY: This is now what they're saying to do. We're seeing it daily. And it is a mob. And Democrats are inciting this with their words in many ways. DAN BONGINO, "SPYGATE" AUTHOR: You know, they are, Sean, but I think this is happening for a reason. I think in this Trump era where now Trump just refuses to back down, to this political pressure, through the media, the liberal swamp, and these activist groups, it's enraged them. Sean, the left, for as much as I disagree with them ideologically, they're usually tactically smarter than this. Trump has them moving in scattered, they just don't know what to do any more because they're not used to a real political fight. Republicans -- elected Republicans would have backed down by now and Trump refuses to do it. HANNITY: We're looking at Ted Cruz and he's with his wife Heidi, and literally, he has to escort his wife and act as protection, Dr. Gorka, to get her out of the restaurant because they can't even let people sit for five seconds and at peace. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: Think about the metric in America today, that you risk bodily harm if you put on a red MAGA hat in many parts of the United States. That's actually an act of courage. The left walks around in t-shirts, with Che Guevarra, a mass murderer on their chest. We don't do anything to them. This is why the midterms are crucial, Sean. Do you want the mob to run America? Do you want people who will intimidate you if you do not toe their line? That's what the next 26 days are about. HANNITY: And Pam, when Kanye said today that it's freeing, really it's a sign of courage, I'm not going to let anybody tell me how to think and I'm going to wear my make America great again hat, he could have pulled back a little bit on the cursing in the Oval Office, but we'll put that aside for a second. Most people have cursed in their lives. But you know, it's sad that we have the best, the lowest unemployment, for African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian-Americans. And somebody say good job. Let's do more of this. BONDI: And Kanye is a businessman, Sean. And he's a capitalist and he understands that. He's saying let's make more products in the United States. He gets it. He knows all of the good that the president has done for the country. And Kanye West is brave. He's his own man, he's not scared to speak his mind and wear his make America great again hat. None of us are going to be victims, frankly. Ted Cruz was out there protecting his wife. And you know, everyone is going to continue to do what's right. Despite what the former chief legal officer of our entire country said to kick peep when they're down. It's despicable. I know Eric Holder, he should really be ashamed. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I don't know, I'm sure I don't agree on everything, I disagree will almost stop and frisk because it worked in New York and lives were saved. But Dan Bongino, I agree on prison reform, I agree on safer cities, and I agree on make products in America and create more jobs for Americans. I'm all in. BONGINO: Sean, I have been vocal about this. I wish a lot of the establishment type Republicans who are selling this moment short would take a time-out and think about this. Where have we fell short over the years. Cultural capital. Democrats have built up a bank account of cultural capital through Hollywood and celebrities, and finally we have people with cultural capital saying hey, these Republicans aren't crazy, let's see what they have to say. It's a big deal. HANNITY: Dr. Gorka, by the way, you cleaned up really well. (CROSSTALK) GORKA: I have shaved from (Inaudible) on your show, Sean. HANNITY: We'll give you the last word. GORKA: Look, it's very, very simple. They have no policies, they have no argument, all they have is intimidation. And we will not let them get away with it. HANNITY: All right, thank you all. Thanks for taking a break from that event. Pam, we're sorry what you went through. When we come back, we're going to have more on Kanye's meeting with the president today. Kristin Fisher has a full report. Candace Owens is with us as she is with Kanye in our nation's capital. And a phenomenal candidate running for Senate, in Michigan, you're going to love this guy, John James, also coming up, next. HANNITY: All right. Joining us with the latest on the meeting between President Trump and Kanye West, Fox News correspondent in Washington tonight, Kristin Fisher. Kristin? KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: You know, Sean, it isn't easy to upstage President Trump. But Kanye West stole the show today in the Oval Office. The meeting was supposed to be about prison reform and it kind of was. But Kanye turned it into a 10-minute-long stream of consciousness about jobs, race, guns, and why he loves his MAGA hat. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KANYE WEST, RAPPER: They try to scare me, to not wear this hat. My own friends. But this hat, it gives me, it gives me power in a way. It was something about, when I put this hat on, it made me feel like Superman. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: Superman. He also took on his critics back home in Hollywood. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WEST: What I need Saturday Night Live to improve on, and what I need the liberals to improve on, if he don't look good, we don't look good. This is our president, he has to be the freshest to fly his, to fly his planes, the best factories, and we have to make our core be empowered. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: So you can see the entire White House press pool was crammed into the Oval Office to capture this spectacle. And at one point Kanye was asked the question about gun violence. And the Second Amendment. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WEST: The problem is illegal guns. Illegal guns is the problem. Not legal guns. We have the right to bear arms. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: And he also has the right to show the world the pass code to his iPhone, which he did inadvertently. It was 000000. Sean, please tell me that you have a better pass code than Kanye. HANNITY: Well, I have a better pass code, it changes every other day, I don't even have the same phone one week to the next. FISHER: Well, that's good. Very secure. HANNITY: For those that don't know, Kristin Fisher's parents were both astronauts. And I got to meet her dad. That is the coolest thing in the world. (CROSSTALK) FISHER: Are you going to bring this up every night? HANNITY: Well that-- FISHER: It is -- it is one of the coolest things. And that big Russian Soyuz emergency landing today was just, I have to say, incredible to watch. What those astronauts and cosmonauts and the entire NASA team was able to do. HANNITY: So anybody that gets in a rocket and wants to go up in space has a lot of courage. And I just admire all of them. So I had a chance to meet your dad. FISHER: I will relay the message, I'm sure they're watching. HANNITY: My best to both of them. All right. Joining us now with reaction, the GOP U.S. Senate candidate from Michigan, John James is with us. And Turning Point USA communications director, our friend, Candace Owens. Candace was with Kanye in D.C. earlier today. You actually facilitated a phone call with me and Kanye. And it wasn't -- we actually face timed. What I really liked about it, is all he wants is answers. All he wants is solutions. All he wants is opportunities and that's what impresses me. I agree with prison reform, I agree with more jobs, I want more made in America, I want a better economy and I want safe neighborhoods. What is there to disagree with here? CANDACE OWENS, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, TURNING POINT USA: The fact that he likes our president. The fact that he's bringing foreign optimistic message. Let's be clear. The left has become the party of hate and division. Kanye is talking about love and unity and support for our president who is doing a tremendous job. He's talking about the real numbers that are in, OK. A 400 percent increase in black growth in jobs and starting black businesses. A 400 percent increase. Black unemployment at an all-time low. President Obama brought an all-time high for welfare for black community. We had President Clinton before him, a Democrat president brought an all- time high for black incarceration. Why is the problem here? Why isn't the black community standing with our president right now? HANNITY: Did he say he was a billionaire? OWENS: Yes, actually Fox News reported that how (Inaudible) became a billionaire. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know, how awesome, and he's talking about jobs that are paying 50, 60, 70,000 a year. You know what, there are people that would love those jobs. Let's get them here. John James, I had the opportunity to interview you on my radio show. I honestly, I can say this, on radio 30 years, he just took my breath away. Because of your passion. I hope the people of Michigan are getting to know you. I know it's a tough state to run for Senate. I hope the people of Michigan are hearing what I think is a great message to make Michigan great again. JOHN JAMES, (R) SENATORIAL CANDIDATE, MICHIGAN: Look, people in the State of Michigan are very astute. This is a state that not only Donald Trump win but so did Bernie Sanders. People in the State of Michigan are sick and tired of being sick and tired. And when you look at the fact that 98 percent of black people vote in one party that's the reason we don't have a seat at both tables. I'm an independent thinker who prioritizes God and country in that order. And I will always serve the people of the State of Michigan as well as I serve the United States of America when I deployed to operation Iraqi Freedom. HANNITY: John, I went through Detroit the last time I was there and I saw one of America's great cities. And it was devastating. It was, I mean, they're selling homes for a dollar, knocking down entire neighborhoods to consolidate because of all the jobs, the manufacturing jobs that moved out. Now jobs are moving in to areas like Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio and Pennsylvania. I think we can revitalize a city like Detroit. Am I dreaming here or rooted in reality? JAMES: No, look, you're exactly on track. We know that we can revitalize Detroit. But the thing is, until these economic opportunity improvements come to the people in the neighborhoods, our forgotten neighborhoods and our forgotten farms, the areas that have been neglected and failed by Democrat policies, decades in the past, we have marched from Selma to Detroit. We have rioted from Baltimore to Watts. And nothing has changed in 50 years. We need to make sure that we don't just-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But first, the neighborhoods should be safe. Chicago isn't safe. I want -- I'd love for the president to partner with Kanye and come up with answers for the people of Chicago. It is a shooting zone. And it's been happening for years. And nobody is fixing it. JAMES: We need more solution, we need more leadership and less partisanship. HANNITY: Yes. JAMES: You can learn a little bit more about my candidacy on Johnjamesforsenate.com, but I have the experience leading on the battleground and the board room and bringing my leadership experience to solve and make our neighborhoods better, bringing everybody up and making our community safer. HANNITY: Candace, why are people, that are African-Americans and conservative brutalized by the left? OWENS: Because they don't want us to be free. Listen, make no mistake the left depends on the black vote. They have to earn more than 85 percent of the black vote to sustain their party. This is why they sew division, this is why they need the themes of racism to stay alive. But guess what, Sean, the black community is waking up. And that's why Kanye West terrifies them because he's not scared in the same way that I'm not scared. And we are seeing more black conservatives waking up and speaking out against Democrat Party. HANNITY: I have a Hannity crystal ball. And what I see in my future are amazing futures for both of you, with strong leadership and just dynamic personalities. I wish you both Godspeed in your mission as you move forward. And I mean that. Thank you both. When we come back, Congressman Mark Meadows says Rod Rosenstein needs to go under oath, owes we, the people, answers. He'll join us with Sara Carter, John Solomon breaking news on the deep state, next. HANNITY: In an interview with Fox & Friends earlier today, President Trump said he gets along with Rod Rosenstein, gave credit to Mark Meadows and others for exposing what is happening with the Russia witch hunt. Take a look. (BEGIN VOICE CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I actually get along well with Rod. We have a witch hunt going on, which is disgraceful. And I have to tell you, I'll take these Republican guys with Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan and Gaetz and Gibbs and all of them, I hate to mention a few names because there's so many of them. I want to give every one of them credit. These are tough, smart guys. They know there was no collusion. It turned out with Russia. There was collusion but it was with Hillary Clinton, the DNC. These Republican folks, I think, they're becoming folk heroes. These are great, great people. And they want to get to the bottom of it. (END VOICE CLIP) HANNITY: I agree with that, the Freedom Caucus, they stand by their promises, they fight. Congressman Mark Meadows joins us right now. Fox News investigative reporter, Sara Carter, The Hill's, John Solomon. Congressman, we now have Rod Rosenstein, let's see, he recommended firing Comey, he signed the last FISA warrant, the third renewal application, and this is a guy that appointed Mueller. Now we have three people saying that he seriously was talking about wearing a wire to invoke the 25th Amendment. McCabe said it, well, actually four. McCabe said it, Lisa Page said it, let me think of the other ones, one other person said it. REP. MARK MEADOWS, (R) NORTH CAROLINA: Jim Baker? HANNITY: Jim Baker. That's it. MEADOWS: Yes. I tell you, the reporters that you have on, I'm with two great reporters that have done tremendous work on this front. But I think probably the biggest part is the president, is exactly right. There is no collusion. He knows it. I know it. Even the Democrats know it. And it's about time that Bob Mueller, he must finish the investigation. It's time to call it quits. What we're starting to find out are the wheels are coming off. Glen Simpson, Fusion GPS Glen Simpson refused to come before Congress, I talk to Chairman Gowdy this evening, the only option we have now is to hold him in contempt of Congress. HANNITY: Why isn't that happening? Where are the 302s that the president was going to release? Where are the FISA warrants that he was going to release? MEADOWS: Well, we've got to get those out. Transparency is good medicine, Sean, as you know I've been advocating for that, the president has been advocating. But he wants to be cautious. And I applaud that. You know, he's getting accused left and right of interfering in this investigation and yet, why I-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Interfering? MEADOWS: Yes. HANNITY: They're obstructing congressional investigation, that's your constitutional role which, to your credit you're doing. Sara Carter? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: I couldn't agree more with you, Sean, on this. I mean, look, we have Rod Rosenstein, obviously a lot of information has come out, in the last few weeks. We know that James Baker, the former general counsel of the FBI came forward and said, look, we took seriously what he said. He wanted to invoke the 25. We now know that there were two-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Wear a wire. CARTER: That's right. And secretly record the president of the United States. Beyond that we also know that there were two other people, apparently speaking with Rod Rosenstein. I give the president credit for this, Sean. The president is a great chess player. I think he's making his move now. I think that the president came out, he's been talking to Rod Rosenstein, we don't know what happened on that flight, we don't know exactly what they spoke about during those 30 minutes. But the president is looking and watching. And I absolutely believe there were other people inside this administration that were with Rod Rosenstein on this. HANNITY: Wow. CARTER: It's going on come out. I don't think it's going to come out next week. But I think eventually the president will make that public if he's smart. And then he'll get rid of Rod Rosenstein, he'll get rid of Jeff Sessions, he'll put other people in place. This is what I'm hearing behind the scenes. HANNITY: He needs to. CARTER: This is I believe will happen. HANNITY: All right. So Lisa Page, John Solomon, says for nine months they had no evidence of Russia collusion. JOHN SOLOMON, VICE PRESIDENT, THE HILL: That's right. HANNITY: Just before the appointment of Rod Rosenstein, to Mueller. And then of course, even Peter Strzok said there's no there there. Now I think with their media leak strategy that we have been able to unveil and report, along with the insurance policy comment, they leaked the information to different news sources, it all goes back to the Clinton phony Russian dossier, they leak it all over the place to create an atmosphere that, there's must so much happened, this really happened when just the opposite is true. The only Russian interference came from Hillary paying for Russian lies that were disseminated to the American people and used as a fraud on a FISA warrant court four times. SOLOMON: Yes. Listen, there is a lot of Harry Houdini going on in May of 2017 at the Justice Department. They knew they didn't have a case, and instead they tried to create the aura in the public media that there was a case and it was obstructed by the president. And I think when we look back in the history we're going to see a lot. I was thinking today because of the work of Congressman Meadows, Congressman Jordan, those who have been digging, we now know, I think two years ago of this month Glen Simpson and Christopher Steele were out peddling their story to the media trying to get it out before the election currently showing their political covers. Two years later, Glenn Simpson can't even come anymore and testify to Congress because he has to invoke his right against self- incrimination. How far has this investigation turned-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Wow, good point. SOLOMON: -- from collusion a Russia to collusion with the Democratic Party and the FBI. And it's because of people like Congressman Meadows and Congressman Jordan that back the trend-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And you and Sara and Greg and others, you guys deserve credit. So what did I call this year? The year of the boomerang. Quickly question all of you. Will we get the declassified unredacted materials? Mark Meadows? MEADOWS: Yes, I think we will get them. Hopefully some sooner than later. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Before the election. MEADOWS: Before the election. Hopefully small group of them before the election. And we need to have them. HANNITY: Sara? CARTER: Yes, absolutely, we need the dossier, we also need the gang of eight packet which will expose the exculpatory evidence-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And the 302s. CARTER: And the 302s. HANNITY: John, will we get them? Real quick. SOLOMON: Absolutely. No doubt about it. HANNITY: Before the election? SOLOMON: I think some of it is going to be, a lot of it will be after the election I fear. HANNITY: All right. Thank you all for what you're doing. Kid Rock at the White House today had a perfect response to a reporter, straight next. HANNITY: All right. Kid Rock he was also at the White House today where he had a few words for reporters who has a pretty dumb questions for him. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Should Trump fire Jeff Sessions? KID ROCK, SINGER-SONGWRITER: He should fire you. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Just perfect. That's like the way the press deserves to be treated because they're fake news. All right. We will always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. As of tomorrow night, 25 days till Election Day. Let not your heart be troubled. There she is, Laura Ingraham is next. Big show tonight. Load-Date: October 12, 2018 End of Document Liberals, Democrats and Media Freaks Out as Kanye West and President Trump Meet at the Oval Office, Kanye West Facing Hatred from the Democrats; Videos Emerge of Democratic Candidates and Staffers Making Disparaging Remarks about Constituents; Susan Rice's Son Attacked on College Campus; Man's Truck Torched Because of Pro-Trump Bumper Sticker; Professor Argues U.S. Deportation of Mexico Immigrants Increasing Border Violence Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 11, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7870 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Gianno Caldwell, Juan Williams Guests: Horace Cooper, Preston Mitchum, Charlie Kirk, Sean Spicer, Ari Fleischer, Ben Esposito, Johnny Mackay, Guadalupe Correa-Cabrera Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, we will always be fair and balanced. We are not the destroy-Trump media. As of tomorrow night, 25 days until Election Day. Let not your heart be troubled. There she is. Laura Ingraham is next. Big show tonight. INGRAHAM: Hannity, does he ever take his hat off, Kid Rock? I'm just -- don't you ever like wonder like what is Kid Rock without the hat? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I'm just waiting for somebody to say, just go beep, beep, beep. I'm waiting for that moment. I want to do it but, you know, Fox will get mad at me and everything. INGRAHAM: No, no, Hannity. It was a wild day, and let me just say -- HANNITY: It was awesome. INGRAHAM: I enjoyed -- HANNITY: -- my mind wanted to curse so much, but the freedom of thought that no one is going to tell me who to be, how to act, I am my own person, and I like success. And I want every American to be successful. That part I loved. INGRAHAM: Yes. There was a lot of good stuff there. Great show tonight, Hannity. HANNITY: Have a great show, Laura. INGRAHAM: All right. I'm Laura Ingraham everybody. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE tonight from Washington. What's really behind the left's total rage over Kanye West? In moments my angle, we'll reveal what they are really frightened of. And the leftist mob mentality is moving from the halls of Congress and public restaurants to college campuses and even parking lots now. Ahead, we'll talk to two victims of the new mob mentality including the friend of Susan Rice's Republican son who was assaulted just days ago --her son, not the friend -- at a pro-Kavanaugh rally. Plus, did a pair of Senate candidates just have their own basket of deplorable's moments? Sean Spicer and Ari Fleischer are here to break it all down. It could spell trouble for Democrats in two key Senate races. But first, the liberals freak out as Trump reaches out. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. It was an amazing moment in the Oval Office today when pop culture icon, rapper extraordinaire Kanye West met with President Trump before the cameras. He unleashed a 10-minute monologue where he tried to explain his love of all things MAGA. (BEGIN VIDEO) KANYE WEST, RAPPER: You know, people expect that if you're black you have to be Democrat. You know they tried to scare me to not wear this hat, my own friends. But this hat, it gives me power in a way. You know, my dad and my mom separated, so I didn't have a lot of male energy in my home. It was something about when I put this hat on, it made me feel like superman. Like what I need Saturday Night Live to improve on or what I need the liberals to improve on, if he don't look good, we don't look good. This is our president. He has to be the freshest, the flyest -- (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Sometimes unlikely figures emerge in American history to play important roles, eliminating at times important truths. And today, Kanye West in his own eccentric way, exposing tolerance of the left. They are denunciations of his White House appearance were immediate and withering. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When it comes to issues of Kanye West bringing black people to President Trump, that's a misnomer. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He certainly doesn't speak to the diversity or to the broad experiences of 40 million black people. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a reality TV show we were watching. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That was an assault on our White House. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: An assault on our White House? Well Kanye did use some coarse language that he shouldn't have used, but in other settings, liberals would have called that authentic. He was being his true self, speaking his own truth. But if you want to talk about assaults or improprieties in the White House, how about this? Or this? Kanye West is hardly a political philosopher, and I've always believed that entertainers should first entertain and keep their politics separate from their art. But I cannot remember any artist on the left who was treated with the same vitriol and hatred as Kanye West has been subjected to since he announced his support for the president. When Katy Perry or Miley Cyrus were headlining Hillary Clinton rallies, running through dorms to register voters, I don't remember anyone at MSNBC or CNN criticizing them for lacking policy experiences. What about when Hillary Clinton sat down for an interview with the probing policy maven, Mary J. Blige. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARY J. BLIGE, SINGER (SINGING): It ain't no secret, no secret my friend, you can get killed just for living in your American skin. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It's like an old coffee commercial from the 70's. And remember Obama was the biggest celebrity hound of them all. I mean, he's relationship was mutual with the celebrities. He was kind of a celebrity and they loved him as vice versa. Here is Barack and Michelle serenading Usher in the White House, but no impropriety or assault on the White House then. And how about Beyonce and Jay-Z? They were in and out of the Obama White House more frequently than the Secret Service. That was all perfectly acceptable. No policy concerns then. But when it was announced two days back that Kanye would be holding a meeting with Trump at the White House, all hell broke loose. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) DON LEMON, CNN HOST: So Kanye is going to let the president use him again. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He is the token negro of the Trump administration. LEMON: Kanye West is what happens when negroes don't read. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And black folks are about to trade Kanye West in the racial draft, OK. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Kanye is being subjected to the attacks that awake any black conservative who dares to break ranks with the Democratic monolith. Liberals kind of treat these entertainers like pawns who are not allowed to deviate from the leftist group think at all. God protect any Hispanic, gay or black who breaks ranks and goes their own way politically. Remember the scorn that singer Harry Belafonte, the civil rights activist Harry Belafonte heaped on Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell for working for George Bush? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HARRY BELAFONTE, SINGER: Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell served Bush because they believe as he does. They embrace his ideology. They embrace his imperial appetite. They are lackeys and tools of that. And my reference to them as the failed house slave, meant that they were not the masters of their own destiny, although they had the choice to be and didn't. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: House slaves, that was really nice. More than 30 years ago, a prominent figure in the Reagan administration argued that black should cast off liberalism for conservative solutions, and summed up how the GOP had lost so much ground saying, "Democrats smugly assume blacks are monolithic and will by force of circumstances always huddle to the left of the political spectrum. The political right watches this herd mentality and action, concedes that blacks are monolithic, picks up a few dissidents and wistfully shrugs at the seemingly unbreakable hold of the liberal left on black Americans." That official's name was Clarence Thomas, then chair of the Equal Opportunity Commission. Individuals such as the brilliant conservative economist Tom Soul were courageous because as Thomas noted, "they refused to give into the cult mentality and childless obedience that hypnotized black Americans into mindless political trance. This is Justice Thomas in 2007. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) THOMAS CLARENCE, U.S. SUPREME COURT JUSTICE: We are here not to be proselytized but to think for ourselves. And at bottom, isn't that why we - - one of the reasons we love our free society, that we get to think for ourselves and make our decisions based on certain principles, and to make it possible for others to do the same? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Absolutely. Now, I'm not going to say that rapper Kanye West is Tom Soul or Clarence Thomas, of course he is not. But I will say that unless he is doing a giant punking (ph) of America, he has guts and gusto. Just because he dares to think for himself, think differently, and he is outspoken over-the-top manner. He is pilloried by the politically correct performers in politics and journalism and of course in the entertainment industry. He represents a danger to the left because of his huge cultural influence. And moments like this, they are absolutely intolerable and frightening to liberals. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WEST: I guess you know I love you. TRUMP: I know. WEST: Did I ever -- TRUMP: But I don't want to put you in that spot. WEST: No, I'm standing in that spot. I love this guy right here. Let me give this guy a hug right here. I love this guy right here. TRUMP: That's really nice. Come here. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Could it be that the Trump-West show was an indication that the old Democrats monopoly on black voters is in jeopardy. There is more reasons for the liberals to be concerned. The President support among African- Americans has nearly doubled as of last year. In the latest Rasmussen Poll, President Trump now has a 36 approval rating among African- Americans. Some attributed the rise to the support from Kanye West and of course a historic low unemployment rate in the black community. Whatever the cause, whatever the reason, the shifting support among African-Americans is very, very significant. Democrats cannot win a national election without their huge swath of black voters, and perhaps Kanye is giving them a reason to look elsewhere for political answers. So next time you hear liberal pundits writing him off as a crazy, slave denying lunatic, remember, it's all about the numbers. They have to smear West for fear that black Americans will follow him into the arms of President Donald Trump. And what are the Democrats going to do then? And that's THE ANGLE. Joining me now, is Horace Cooper, co-chair of Project 21 former counsel to then House majority leader Dick Armey. Preston Mitchum is the division chair for the Washington Bar Association, young lawyers division and Charlie Kirk is the founder of Turning Point USA, now author of the book, "Campus Battlefield." He met with Kanye for hours earlier today. Great to have you all on tonight. It was a very interesting day in Washington for a lot of reasons, and Preston, I want to start with you. You listened to THE ANGLE. Do you think that any of this overwrought reaction to Kanye West is because the left is worried that if this -- let's say it's even 20 percent support for Trump. That's cataclysmically bad news for Democrats. PRESTON MITCHUM, DIVISION CHAIR, WASHINGTON BAR ASSOCIATION: It absolutely would be bad news if they were accurate. One thing that I certainly won't come on here and pretend as though Kanye West is anyone's saving grace, not for the Democrats, not for the Republicans. Kanye West acted as a child today. He ranted and raved all in the Oval Office, banging his hand as a child would when they are throwing a temper tantrum. You have to almost read hieroglyphics to even understand what he was saying, and I'm actually proud of anyone who knows the Morse code enough to know what Kanye was saying. He grandstanded the entire time and he pontificated on nothingness. As a Democrat I'm certainly not worried about any African-American approval ratings for Trump. No -- they will still receive a low, excuse me, President Trump will still receive a low amount of African- American supporters. Trust that. INGRAHAM: I want to get to Charlie in a moment because you actually spent a lot of time with Kanye today. Horace, I'm wondering what the reaction would be if a white person said that he or she couldn't understand what Kanye West had said today in the Oval Office. If I said that, I can't even imagine, you know, the people that would come after me. I think (inaudible) disagree with him if they think black people shouldn't like Trump. But he said some actually interesting things and all. He was like all over the place, but he's not a political person. He's not, you know, no more than Miley Cyrus bumping and grinding or doing the twerk on whatever it was at the Grammy's. She looked like a complete moron, but she's out there banging doors for Hillary. Hillary is the person for you, let me give you the five reasons why. No one talked about Miley, but this is a real problem for liberals. Why isn't Miley Cyrus and Matt Damon and Ben Affleck and all the other people that showed up, over all the years, never heard about policy considerations then. HORACE COOPER, CO-CHAIR, PROJECT 21: Celebrity after celebrity has always come out and supported the left and we all were supposed to rejoice. We were honored to have them show up and make their presentation. No on asked them, so wait a second, you don't have your data right. You aren't actually keeping up with what's going on. These points you are making are inaccurate. No one says any of those things. We sit back and we clap. When someone like Kanye West says what he says, what he really is doing is saying to black people, look around, think for yourself. You can, it's OK. And that is what is the most dangerous of all. INGRAHAM: Charlie, I'm going to play something from the Oval Office that we didn't play earlier. Kanye on liberal racism and get your reaction. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WEST: One of the moves that I love that liberals try to do, the liberals will try to control a black person through the concept of racism because they know that we are very proud, emotional people. So when I said I like Trump, to like someone that's liberal, they'll say, Oh, but he's racist. You think racism could control me? (END VIDEO CLIP) CHARLIE KIRK, FOUNDER, TURNING POINT USA: Look, I had the opportunity to spend the afternoon with them after this meeting and first of all I think it's unbelievably insulting to say that you couldn't understand what he was saying. You know what he was saying MITCHUM: I don't. KIRLK: He was saying -- you don't? You don't know what he's saying? I'm defecting from the monolith -- I let you finish, let me finish. He said I'm defecting from the monolith and you have permission to do the same. It took courage for him to do that because his whole life is about selling albums. His whole life is about popularity and so many people in Hollywood and so many people in the music industry are afraid to do what he did. And you know what, you should be quite afraid because even if that Rasmussen poll is half correct, if Donald Trump's approval rating is 18, 19 or 20 percent, the Democrat Party is done. And Kanye West, he's not even saying vote Democrat, vote Republican. He's saying think free, think for yourself, think independent and if you look objectively at what the Democrat Party has done to our inner cities, our urban communities and the black community over the last 60 years, it ravished these communities. High murder rates, crime everywhere. You saw in Chicago, you did a wonderful special there, there has not been a Republican mayor of Chicago since 1931. And yet the black community votes for Democrats at a 95 percent clip. I applaud Kanye West for his courage, for standing up, it is not easy to do what he did. INGRAHAM: I got to say I'm not wild about the celebrities in politics and I wrote a book called, "Shute Up & Sing." I jokingly said, Lebron James, shut up and dribble. It was a joke, but it's not what the book called, "Shut Up & Sing." Everyone got all upset. You can't tell Kanye to -- guys, everybody has an opinion, yet the moment you prick someone else they are screaming, I'm a victim. No one is a victim. If you want to go out there and take shots at President Trump, calling this and that or the other name, then don't be expecting someone isn't going to come back in your face. So this guy comes out and he says, I like Trump and it's not -- I disagree with you, this is why you should sing differently about Donald Trump. He's not good for black -- make that argument. But to say he's psychologically inept, he is a mental case, he's dumb, and the word negro used by two black people on set, I mean again, it's a conservative host of any color said anything like that, they'd be gone. They'd be fired. I don't like calling for people to be fired, that's not my thing but the double standard is to me, Preston, is just not good. MITCHUM: A couple of things, Laura, So one, they should be gone if they were using that word negro, right. But we can have an issue on this country where for some reason many white Americans believe they can use the same exact language against black people that black people can use against black people and it's just not true and it's never been the case. I know that's going to be hard for many people to accept -- COOPER: Including me. I reject that. MITCHUM: You can reject that or you would. It doesn't make it accurate. It doesn't make it accurate. It is absolutely -- INGRAHAM: -- explain what it means because I'm confused. MITCHUM: Yes. So, with your statement you said if a white personwill eventually make a call for Kanye West calling him a negro they would be called for (inaudible), they shouldn't be called for a firing. Theye have no right to use that language. The language and the ownership and accountability lies as black people to use that particular language. I'm still talking. And on top of the fact that it seems very interesting to me that were something should like make Kanye some savior, some deity (ph) -- INGRAHAM: I'm not -- I didn't say that in my monolog. MITCHUM: OK, OK, OK. You didn't verbatim say that, just my interpretation. It seems very accurate because in early 2000, conservatives were not out here proud that Kanye West say that George Bush was not for black people. INGRAHAM: No, and I made that point the other night. MITCHUM: Yes. So we are being very hypocritical in this room if we are going to sit here and pretend as though Kanye West is now a saving grace for the Republican Party. (CROSSTALK) MITCHUM: -- were disparaging him for making some of the accusations before INGRAHAM: You are right, that I was doing my shut up and sing moment and this is why I said the reason I'm looking at this issue today is because I think people are desperate for solutions. MITCHUM: Absolutely. All people -- it doesn't matter whether you are gay or straight, black or white, people are looking for solutions to heal this country and bring this country forward. And Charlie, you spent a lot of time with him today, I don't know Kanye West. I don't what kind of person he is. I like to judge people on who they are. Preston, we can all probably hang out, have a drink, laugh and have fun, but I don't know what he is like. What is he trying to do here with Trump? KIRK: Look, first of all, he loves this country and he sees a lot of himself in Donald Trump Someone who has defied the odds, everyone said Kanye West, you can't make your own record album, you can never succeed. He's defied the odds. But instead you did not attack his ideas. You attacked him personally (CROSSTALK) KIRK: First and foremost resort at saying that I have to understand Egyptian hieroglyphics to understand what he was saying. What he said today had more wisdom that anything Barrack Obama said in eight years. He said liberals what blacks to vote Democrats because they want them for political power. Homerun -- (CROSSTALK) KIRK: He did unbelievably intellectually, I would say grounded critique in his own way against the welfare state. He also said we had the right to bear arms. INGRAHAM: All right, Horace. COOPER: It's not about Republicans or Democrats. It is seriously about whether people can think freely and it's also about are we going to be individuals. What you just said denies that we're individuals when you claim that black people can use offensive language against other black people, but white is when you said that if a white person said they should be fired. That's offensive. KIRK: If the liberals can have double standard (inaudible) no standard at all. COOPER: Well, that's been the case. MITCHUM: So, it's not about Republicans and Democrats. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Well, one thing I want to get at little bit, and I like to keep you guys for the whole hour because this is so late. Each one of you has an interesting point of view. In the Obama years we had Snoop Dogg, he's hanging out in the White House. You know, he likes to smoke his pot and all that, and he's laughing about it. You know, he's not really presidential, you know, couldn't handle Monica in the side office of the Oval Office. Was that presidential? Had Jay-C and Beyonce mugging in the Situation Room -- we couldn't use that photo because it's licensed. Too expensive. (Inaudible). Every one has a celebrity in and out. Trump has one, pretty much only one or two celebrities (inaudible). (CROSTALK) But he can't even have like one celebrity, one African-American celebrity, and that guy had to be destroyed. I just think, what is the big deal if Kanye West is there? Why are liberal so worried about it? KIRK: Because he's a threat. Because he's an A-list artist that's also married to an entire family with huge cultural cloud. He's a threat to the Democrat monolith. That's why you see Don Lemon trying to discredit him. INGRAHAM: He made a hit -- Kanye made a hit at the Kardashians like (inaudible), nicely gesture, kind of, we're going to have a lot of male influence in that (inaudible) OK. I'm not going near that. Final thought, real quick. MITCHUM: If we look at the Republican Party, and it's funny that we say Democrats are a monolith because we can certainly see who is the real monolith here and we're looking at the room right now. INGRAHAM: All right. Well, it's good to have you all on. You guys, I want to have you on for the whole hour but they are telling me I can't do that. For more insight into the mind of President Trump and conservative populism that drove him to office, make sure to pick up a copy of my new book, it's in paperback, "Busting the Barricades: What I Saw at the Populace Revolution." It's in bookstores everywhere and you will love it. And next, the media may be losing their mind over this Kanye West meeting with President Trump, but what about the political ramifications inside from some folks and Kanye's hometown of Chicago? Coming up. INGRAHAM: As I noted in THE ANGLE, the media are freaking out over Kanye West meeting with President Trump's. But we're more curious about whether this translates into actual votes. Here to debate, Fox News political analyst Gianno Caldwell and Juan Williams, whose new book, "What The Hell Do You Have To Lose?" is out now. Fantaastic. Gianno, like Kanye, you are a Chicago native. So what are people saying in Chicago about all this tonight? I mean we did that -- our town hall last month and had a lot of fun and really emotional time in Chicago. I understand you were able to catch up to some of our friends and some of the more difficult areas of south and west side. GIANNO CALDWELL, FOX NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST: Absolutely. There were surprisingly for -- I'm sure the mainstream, a lot of people that agree with what Kanye had to say and you had some things in which you highlighted and you talked about stop and frisk a one issue that a lot of Chicagoans care about there against stop and frisk. I'm sure there is no surprise. But certainly this prison reform issue is another big issue. But what I have to say, Laura, is when I read publications today, when I saw what was on social media, even on my own Instagram page @giannocaldwell for those who want to follow, I was distressed, I was upset, especially by my friends over at CNN who used the word token negro. I mean, friends of mine who are black conservatives, who get this kind of rhetoric thrown at us on a day-to-day basis, you are going to attack someone who, my belief is, whose heart is pure and who want to see the people of Chicago helped and the people across this nation helped? You use that kind of language? I was just disturbed by it all. I got to be honest with you, Laura. It was very disturbing. INGRAHAM: Juan, the reaction from the media and some members of the entertainment industry, but mostly the media folks in D.C. and New York was pretty unhinged. I mean, we had people using the negro word and another thing, and then Nia-Malika Henderson, is a political reporter at CNN and she came on right after pretty much this all wrapped up and she said the following -- well, she said, OK, I'll read it to you. She said, "It also speaks to the lack of seriousness that the president looks at African-American issues. It was supposed to be about criminal justice reform, opportunity zones, with that you would think you'd want policy experts," she said. "People who know about these issues instead, we've got Jim Brown who was basically silent and on display and then Kanye West who isn't an expert in any of these things." My question to Juan is, you know, who is an expert among any of the celebrities that were in and out of the White House during the Obama years? JUAN WILLIAMS, FOX NEWS HOST: Well, I think there's a whole different context to Obama's relationship to not only the black community but to racial issues in the country as a first black president, and there were pluses and minuses to be debated, but it's nowhere near the low of Donald Trump in terms of not only the rhetoric he uses, but the substance of his policies with regard to black America. You mentioned -- Gianno mentioned criminal justice reform. Remember, they were Republicans working on reducing sentences for nonviolent drug offenders and the like before Trump and Jeff Sessions got in office. All that now, gone. Voter suppression issues, (inaudible) large as we approach the midterms, healthcare, education. INGRAHAM: How about unemployment? WILLIAMS: Yes, again, unemployment. INGRAHAM: How about Africa-American unemployment. WILLIAMS: This is one of my favorites because what happens is anytime people say hey, you know what, race relations are worse and in the latest Fox poll, half of Americans think Trump is racist. And Trump said, her, what about the low unemployment rate? Lowest in history. INGRAHAM: Juan, were racial relations great during Obama when we had Baltimore on fire - (CROSSTALK) WILLIAMS: It's not up to me or you Laura. INGRAHAM: -- when we had Ferguson on fire. WILLIAMS: Laura, it's not up to me or you. I'm just telling you -- INGRAHAM: I mean, we had major American cities in flames during Obama, and you were like Obama was a great unifier. Then why did you have Ferguson in flames or why did you have entire buildings on fire -- WILLIAMS: That's true. INGRAHAM: -- police cars set on fire, violence in Baltimore? And you had people in most polls saying the country was divided. The country has been racially hot for some time. CALDWELL: It's been divided for a while. WILLIAMS: Yes, but I'm telling you, I don't think there's any doubt about the fact that the country, according to the polls, thinks that we have worst race relations now, that they disapprove of the president's handling of race far higher than Obama's. INGRAHAM: All right. I know what Obama did for Chicago. WILLIAMS: And I said to you, pass the country including 11 percent of Republicans thinks the guy is a racist. INGRAHAM: What did he do? What did he do for Chicago? Juan, you can't answer the question, this is what drives me crazy. WILLIAMS: What's the question? INGRAHAM: What did Obama do for Chicago, Juan? WILLIAMS: Oh, my gosh. Remember, Michelle went there after the shooting of that young woman who had come to the White House. (CROSSTALK) CALDWELL: Let me tell you what President Obama did for Chicago, nothing. WILLIAMS: That's not true. CALDWELL: And the reason why he did nothing because his pal Rahm Emanuel, let's be very honest, his pal Rahm Emanuel was running the city so therefore he didn't talk about the issues of Chicago. There were people dying in the streets as they are today and you didn't get a word out of President Obama on that one. (CROSSTALK) CALDWELL: -- executive bridge (ph) could have done something real for Chicago. And let me just say -- (CROSSTALK) CALDWELL: -- justice reform has gone away -- (CROSSTALK) CALDWELL: -- even Ben Jones (ph) is a part of that conversation. WILLIAMS: Gianno, let me just quickly say that in fact the criticism of President Obama came from the left for saying to people including at church services, we have to be more responsible, black on black crime is our problem. It's not about race, all of that. And people said why are you lecturing black folks when there is systemic racism? So I don't buy that he did nothing. I think today with Kanye West, what you saw was not a message to the black community. It was a message to Trump supporters ahead of the midterms. Don't worry about the problem of race, I have a black friend, and that's why Kanye was a prop. INGRAHAM: So again, what I have to say is, when people say he is a prop or, he's stupid, or -- I will just go back to the revolving door of celebrities who are making their pitches on a variety of issues to Obama and the Clintons. And this was considered all well and good, whether it was George Clooney or whether it was Jay and Be. Whoever it was, they did celebrity send-off for the president. It was something like the Grammy Awards. I've never seen anything like it. WILLIAMS: Laura -- GIANNO CALDWELL, FOX NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST: Let me interject really quickly. INGRAHAM: I covered. WILLIAMS: Here's what I'm saying. I want Gianno to have his chance, but allow me to respond, Gianno. I would just say to you, Laura, if you look back from Eisenhower who had E. Frederick Morrow, to Ronald Reagan, to presidents Kennedy and President Bush, they had black advisors and Latino advisors. Is Omarosa another celebrity? His expert in terms of dealing with race and civil rights issues? INGRAHAM: Now we know why you care. So for you now it's the numbers inside the White House. WILLIAMS: No, it's about people who know that they're doing, people who have some relationship, establishment relationship to the black community. INGRAHAM: We've got to get Gianno in. CALDWELL: Kanye became very dangerous to the folks on the left and otherwise when they saw what he did for President Trump's polls numbers in the black community. We know that to be a fact. People have been calling Kanye West stupid and dumb when he has done great work. The guy is a billionaire now. And this was somebody who the odds were against him from birth. So for people to call him stupid and dumb when I'm not aware of anybody's medical credentials who have examined him, to say that is just wrong. Especially black people on CNN calling him a token negro, it's outrageous. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, thank you so much, both you. Could keep it going, I wish we had more time tonight. Two Democratic senate candidates might be facing their own basket of deplorables moment. Sean Spicer, Ari Fleischer, both here to explain, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MITT ROMNEY, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government. HILLARY CLINTON, (D) FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You could put half of Trump supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Those two moments caught on camera in 2012 and 2016 became defining moments for two losing candidates. Now, two Democrat Senate candidates are facing similar issues. For Tennessee Senate candidate Phil Bredesen, it happened when his staff dismissed the candidate's support for Brett Kavanaugh as a way to fool ignorant Tennessee voters. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Will we lose voters? Are people of Tennessee ignorant? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Arizona Senate candidate Kyrsten Sinema similarly mocked her own constituents in a newly unearthed 2011 video. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KYRSTEN SINEMA, (D) ARIZONA SENATE CANDIDATE: Arizona is the state of five Cs. Cattle, copper, citrus, cotton, and climate. And those are the things that out state historically made its money off of. We also have a sixth C, its' called crazy. (LAUGHTER) SINEMA: Because what is happening in my state is pure craziness. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was the nice stuff she said. Joining us with their thoughts are two former White House press secretaries, the Trump administration's Sean Spicer and the Bush administration's Ari Fleischer. Sean, let's start with you. One of President Trump's major advantages over secretary Clinton with how out of touch she seemed with ordinary Americans. So do these senators face similar ordinary risks here given the revelations? SEAN SPICER, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Absolutely. Pro tip -- don't call the people that you want to elect you crazy. So I think Kyrsten Sinema that was in a close race out there in Arizona with Congresswoman Martha McSally is going to find herself on the back end of the wave that is going to bring Martha McSally to the U.S. Senate. Similarly, I think Marsha Blackburn initially was in a tight race going back a few weeks ago with former governor Phil Bredesen. And I think that that race has opened up for Marsha Blackburn. These two folks needed to pretend that they actually were conservatives and that they have championed sort of the issues that they could work with someone like President Donald Trump. And these videos that had both been unearthed proved that they will say whatever they have to say to get into power, and yet they are truly leftwing Democrats that will elect Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi if they ever were to get to Washington. INGRAHAM: Ari, authenticity in candidates and on campaigns, in politics sometimes it's hard to find. People kind of sense it, though. I think they know it when they see it. And Trump, his rough edges and all at times, people think this is the guy who is going to fight for us, he loves this country, and we are with him. We're going to stay with him because he loves us, he loves them. What about, especially with Arizona, Ari? ARI FLEISCHER, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: You are 100 percent right. There is a real revulsion in this country towards picture-perfect politicians who know how say everything the right way but they don't mean it. So along comes rough, tough, gruff Trump, who just lets it fly, lets it rip. And it makes some people uncomfortable. But on the other hand, I think people actually embrace the fact that he is real. And that has helped him. In the case of the Senate candidates in these very red states, there is a terrible tension that they are suffering from. They want to be more liberal, but they know they can't be more liberal, and so it doesn't surprise you when you hear things, you see things like what happened with Arizona, like what's happening in Tennessee, come out of the woodwork, because its' the real reflection of who they are and what they believe. But they have to fake it because they cannot win in a red state otherwise. INGRAHAM: One of the parts of this was when Sinema was saying, there's nothing wrong in the water, something wrong with the people in the public office in Arizona. They are called Republicans, Tea Party Republicans. It's all the same thing, it's called crazy. Again, more craziness. And it goes back to pejoratives. And we're talking about Kanye West, all the criticism of him is he's crazy, he's nuts, he's stupid, you can't understand him. There's very little substantive dialogue. And Sean, I want to go with you and then back to Ari. Nicolle Wallace was on MSNBC today, and we were talking about this push to violence and intimidation, getting in people's faces. She said something very interesting about what she encouraged Jim Bush to do during the debates in the GOP primary of 2016. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NICOLLE WALLACE, MSNBC HOST: I told Jeb Bush after that debate that I thought he should have punched him in the face. Even if he lost, he insulted your wife. He came down the escalator and called Mexicans rapists and murderers. He said, what do you think I should have done. I said I think you should have punched him in the face and then gotten out of the race. He would have been a hero. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Sean, she actually told him to do that, apparently. SPICER: I think the problem I have right now is is that we've gone from joking about things to actually inciting violence. I know Nicolle, not well, but I hope that was in a lighthearted moment. But what I'm continuing to see from the left is, whether it's people getting shot up at a baseball office or going to Andy Harris's office or assaulting Ted Cruz and his wife at dinner, it's the left that continues to push the envelope in a very dangerous place in this country. I respect the First Amendment and I respect our ability to protest. INGRAHAM: But this is ridiculous. SPICER: And assemble, but this is now crossing the line. And the left seems to be condoning it and encouraging it in a way that I think is very dangerous for society. INGRAHAM: But I'm not going to let you off the hook, Ari, on Nicolle Wallace and punching Trump in the face. This is wild. What is this? FLEISCHER: It's not wild. It's lost. And I think that's what Donald Trump has made people do. They become lost. People who used to have moorings, people who used to say, there's a limit to where we will go. And because they don't like what Donald Trump is doing, they go lower. And that is really going to hurt the Democrats when good people like Nicolle have lost their way and say things like that. Advocating violence, no. And Sean is 100 percent right. That was actually an assassination attempt on scores of Republicans with 200 rounds of ammunition. Don't forget the shooting at the Family Research Council or the firebombing of the GOP headquarters in North Carolina in 2016. These are actual acts of violence, and one of the reasons why I'm so upset about this is because the mainstream media doesn't blow the whistle, put it on the front page, and call them out. They look the other way. And that mean they acquiesce to it. INGRAHAM: Bingo. All right, guys -- and tacitly encourage it, I think. Guys, thank you so much. And did you know that Susan Rice's son is the head of the Stanford Republicans? Isn't that interesting? And did you know he was reportedly assaulted recently at a pro Kavanaugh rally? One of his close friends joins us next to detail the latest example of the leftist violence that Ari and Sean were just talking about. Stay there. INGRAHAM: You saw it when protesters literally tried to pry open the 13- ton bronze doors of the Supreme Court, and you saw it when Antifa took over Portland, physically attacking cars. Leftist violence is also spilling onto college campuses, though, impacting our students. The Republican son of Obama national security advisor Susan Rice says that he was assaulted at Stanford University at an event, believe it or not, supporting Brett Kavanaugh. His best friend who witnessed it, Ben Esposito, is joining us tonight. Ben, it's good to see you, is the treasurer of the Stanford College Republicans. Ben, take us through what happened here. BEN FRANCISCO ESPOSITO, STANFORD COLLEGE GOP TREASURER: Yes, thank you, Laura, great to be here. So we have these events regularly, change my mind events, where we promote conservative views on a campus that frankly doesn't have a lot of them. So we were standing today, or the other day, for due process. And during this event, one of the protesters who showed up kind of got upset at John, and showed up and pushed him and hit him and pushed him back. And we eventually had to call the police and make sure everything got settled down. INGRAHAM: And it was a woman, I understand? Is that right? ESPOSITO: Yes, that's right. Yes, female student. INGRAHAM: Are you identifying her, afraid to identify her? Who is she? ESPOSITO: We've identified her on our Facebook. I don't think we need to throw our name out. Her first name is Melinda, I don't think we need to throw her name out to the masses. But yes, she assaulted John, and right now we are pressing charges for John. INGRAHAM: And she was upset because you were exercising your First Amendment rights? She's a known leftist on campus? ESPOSITO: Not really. In fact it's kind of crazy that it's actually someone we had no idea, because we do know some prominent, very liberal students on campus, but this is just another person, yes. So she was upset at John was filming her ripping these flyers because we are just trying to get these documented. And she wasn't happy at that and she attacked him for it. INGRAHAM: Is it harder for Susan Rice's son given her prominence in the Obama administration for him to be a Republican? Does he faced more pushback just because of his family lineage? ESPOSITO: I think perhaps, but really I think the reason he faces the most pushback anywhere is because he's a conservative on a college campus promoting individual liberty. Every day, it's very difficult for students, any student, to promote conservatism. Students are expected to conform. INGRAHAM: Hey, Ben, keep doing exactly what you're doing because, guess what, there are a lot more students who agree with you, and you have to have fun doing it, and you have to keep doing it. I went through the same thing at Dartmouth. Keep doing what you are doing. We salute you and give our best to your pal, OK? And stay safe out there. ESPOSITO: We will keep fighting, thank you. INGRAHAM: You take care. And the violence and intimidation now apparently follows you even at the bar. You're out there having some fun, you can't do politics there, either. Johnny Mackay made headlines yesterday after someone torched his truck because he dared to have a pro-Trump sticker on it. Johnny, first of all, it's good to have you with us. I'm sorry this happened to you. Is this like a normal occurrence for top supporters in Washington state, which is obviously a very liberal state? What gives here? JOHNNY MACKAY, TORCHED TRUCK OWNER: No. Washington is actually more pro- Trump than just across the river in Portland, so it's very unusual. INGRAHAM: So what does the sticker look like? MACKAY: I had two stickers. They both were Trump 2020. One says make liberals cry again, and the other one said, keep America great. INGRAHAM: Make liberals cry again is really funny, and you have to get me one, although I think I will put it on my older car. So you came out of the bar, what time, and you left the car there because you stayed there late, and then you came out the next morning, what happened? MACKAY: My wife was at work and I was home bored, so I went to the bar to have a couple drinks and play some pool. I was only there for about an hour and a half, I had four beers, played a couple games of pool and left at 10:30 p.m. I took an Uber home because I was feeling it. And when I left in the morning, my truck was gone. INGRAHAM: And you found it where. MACKAY: It was in the parking lot. It was completely torched. Whoever did, the only thing I could think of is they didn't like the Trump bumper stickers, because the lady who initially called 911, she told the bar owner that it said on the front door, it said F-you Trump on it. But the scorch burnt the other part off and all that was left was the Trump part. INGRAHAM: I'm sure it wasn't, we love Trump, let us burn your truck. That's a pretty logical guess. I'm really sorry this happened to you. You can't put a bumper sticker on your car. You have to confuse them next time and have like, make America great, and then like, visualize world peace or question authority. You have to some liberal Greenpeace stuff and Trump stuff. Then they'll be stuck and they won't know what to do. Just do that. That will really freak them out, all right? I hope you get a new truck, I hope insurance covers that. Thank you so much. And I will debate a professor who, get this, says Trump immigration policy is the cause of crime. Where? In Mexico. Stick around. INGRAHAM: A policy professor at George Mason University is blaming the Trump administration for crimes in Mexico. Yes, you heard that right. Guadalupe Correa-Cabrera joins us now to explain. Thank you for being here. First of all, do you think it's possible that some of the people who have been deported back to Mexico were already committing crimes before they were deported back to Mexico? Because you were saying deportation policy is making Mexico's life worse. Explain. GUADALUPE CORREA-CABRERA, THE WILSON CENTER: Mexico and the United States, because people are very vulnerable. We have cartels at the border, operating at the border. And we have corruption in Mexico, therefore, when you deport people to the border, they find themselves like they want to come back to the United States. They don't have their families or the network, and some of them are forced to participate in the criminal activities, or some of them want to go to the United States, so they hire some smugglers that are in connection with the cartels. INGRAHAM: I understand that. But why is that our problem? CORREA-CABRERA: Well, it's not your problem, but you might have a problem, as well, because you will have more criminal groups operating on the Mexican side of the border. And as you know, people are still arriving in the United States no matter what. INGRAHAM: Do you think we should have any borders, really? Why have a border at this point? Why not just make it all one Mexico and United States, and then the cartel will kind of go out of business because people will just be all one country. CORREA-CABRERA: I believe every country has to have some kind of limits, and I think borders to establish certain limits to certain forces. INGRAHAM: But if you can have a border, then presumably when people don't have permission to be here, then they can be sent home. Every country on the face of the planet sends people home when they don't have permission, and especially if they have committed a crime, and then you're really subjected to deportation. I think Americans don't feel like it's their responsibility to make sure that Mexico -- we want Mexico to be well, but we don't want a lot of people to cross the border. Real quick. CORREA-CABRERA: I think that you're right, but at the same time the United States can be threatened by more violence at the border. INGRAHAM: Will you come back so we can do a really long segment? CORREA-CABRERA: Yes. INGRAHAM: Would love to have you back. Thank you so much. We'll be right back with the last bite. Don't go away. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. NFL Hall of Famer Jim Brown was at the White House today and spoke out on NFL players taking a knee. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM BROWN, FORMER NFL PLAYER: I can be very blunt about taking a knee. First of all, I'm an American. That flag is my flag. I don't think that we should take knees in protest instead of be standing up for our flag. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Jim, I couldn't agree with you more. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the fantastic "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team take it from here. They had the big interview with President Trump. You're pretty tough on the president last night, Shannon. I watched the whole thing. It was really good. Load-Date: October 12, 2018 End of Document 27 Days Until Crucial Midterm Elections; The Left's Mob-Rule Tactics; Powerful Hurricane Michael Hits Southeast; Republicans Have Said That American People Will Lose A Lot If They Vote For Democrats In The Coming Midterms And There Will Be A Picture Of Back And Forth Between The Two Parties As Democrats Will Push To Impeach President Trump; Some CNN Hosts Have Pushed Back On One Of Their Hosts Calling The Left A Mob For Inciting Violence Against The Republicans; A "Washington Post" Report Says That Deputy A.G. Rod Rosenstein Who Refuses To Appear Before Lawmakers Under Oath, Is Now With A Blame Game With Andrew McCabe Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 10, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7165 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sebastian Gorka, Rick Reichmuth, Jason Chaffetz, Tammy Bruce, Newt Gingrich, Kristin Fisher Guests: Sean Spicer, Devin Nunes Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: A lot of breaking news. Welcome to HANNITY. At this hour, Hurricane Michael is wreaking havoc over the Florida Panhandle, Georgia and Alabama. This is now the strongest storm to hit the mainland U.S. since 1969. Now, coming up, we're going to have full hurricane coverage. But first, with just 27 days to go until the all-important midterm elections, the most important in our lifetime, we're going to break down exactly what is at stake tonight. Now, in the wake of Judge Kavanaugh's historic confirmation, where the far- left mob -- and it is a mob in many cases -- they're more petulant than ever. And tonight, they're being spurred on by some very despicable comments, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, Cory Booker and, of course, Congresswoman Maxine Waters. In moments, we're going to show you how Democrats are literally trying to bludgeon, bully and smear their way to victory in November. Plus, we have a very important warning from Senator Rand Paul. We should all heed this warning. We're going to tell you how the fragile word police over at fake news CNN are stopping anyone from using the word "mob" to describe angry mobs of protesters confronting Republicans all over the country. And we'll also roll out ten more House races. This will decide in 27 days the balance of power in Washington. You have the power to shock the world again in 27 short days. America tonight needs you. All right. Sit tight, buckle up, it's time for our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Just moments ago, President Trump wrapped up a rally in Erie, Pennsylvania, where he had this to say about the impending midterm elections and so much more. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You now have a champion fighting for you in the White House, but I need your help this Election Day, November 6th, to stop the radical Democrat mob from trying to take it away and they're going to try and take it away. They're going to try and take it away. (CHEERS) I need you to show up at the polls to continue this incredible movement, like the country has never seen before, like probably very few countries frankly have ever seen before. The only reason to vote Democrat is if you are tired of winning, then you should vote Democrat. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Tonight, the modern Democratic Party, the left wing in this country, is in a very sad and frankly alarming state. Night after night, right here on this program, we have documented their hard left turn. And with very few exceptions, the party is now devoid of any moderation, any moderates. No diversity of thought, no ideological differences. Everybody else that thinks differently, they're vilified. They offer no solutions to help the forgotten men and women in this country and solve our problems. Now, they call those who disagree with them evil. They have ginned up hatred and fear all across the country. And now, many top Democratic leaders, they're going further, urging supporters to take vengeance against those that dare to disagree with them. This includes the former Attorney General Eric Holder. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ERIC HOLDER, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL: Michelle Obama, I love her. You know, she and my wife like really tight, which always scares me and Barack. But Michelle always says that, you know, when they go low, we go high. No, no. When they go low, we kick them. (APPLAUSE) HOLDER: That's what -- that's what this new Democratic Party is about. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We kick them. Really? This is the top cop under Barack Obama from hope and change to kick them on the ground. Of course, Holder is not alone. That kind of despicable disgusting rhetoric has been echoed by so many top Democrats. Watch for yourself. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. That's why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and/or the Senate, that's when civility can start again. REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: That you see anybody from that cabinet, in a restaurant, in a department store, in a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcomed anymore, anywhere. SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: Please don't just come here today and then go home, go to the Hill today. Get up and please, get up in the face of some Congress people. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You know with rhetoric like that, is it any surprise that Republicans across the country have been literally harassed by angry mobs, left-wing activists? Just a few days ago, we witnessed members of Congress getting shouted down on Capitol Hill, harassed in elevators, stalked in airports, run out of it restaurants. And even one instance where a Republican congressman was assaulted inside his own office after a hoarder of protesters kicked in his door. In Portland, Oregon, far-left activist blocking traffic, assaulting commuters. Meanwhile, you have Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, Homeland Security Secretary Nielsen, Senator Ted Cruz, Press Secretary Sarah Sanders, all recent targets of the far-left mob. But over at fake news CNN, their word police -- well, they've taken over, believe it or not, some of their hosts are actually shaming guests for using the proper term, which is mob. Would they want their liberal friends run out of restaurants like Sarah Sanders, Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen? Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you see people like Ted Cruz getting chased out of restaurants by a mob -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, you're not going to use the mob word here. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, it's totally a mob. It is without a doubt. There's no other word for it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A mob, stop, stop. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That is mob behavior. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Matt, everybody, stop, everybody, stop. Matt, we already did that. We already said they weren't mobs. No, it's not mob- like behavior. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, it is. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's people who are upset and they're angry with the way the way the country is going and the policies that these people -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, so they're just -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Will you let me finish, Matt, please before you jump in? OK? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, the left-wing media, fake news CNN, they're asking you not to believe your lying eyes. You the American people, of course, you know better. Your head is not buried in the ground like theirs and you know a mob when you see one. (VIDEO CLIP PLAYS) HANNITY: That's a mob. Now, Congresswoman Maxine Waters who called on the mob to harass conservatives at gas stations and grocery stores et cetera, she's actually now audaciously blaming President Trump, of course. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WATERS: We cannot allow Donald Trump and anybody else to take protests away from us and to deem it to be violent and to try and make us look like a mob. They're trying to change the description of protests and call it a mob. Well, this president is the poster boy for what a mob protester looks like. He is a matter of fact he's the one who has been violent in his speech. This country is past due for the kind of protests that we have seen women do in the last few days. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now to think that Congresswoman Maxine Waters could be a committee chairman if Democrats take back the House in 27 days? That brand of vitriol, that could have real consequences. Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, he issued this urgent warning earlier. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. RAND PAUL (R), KENTUCKY: When Democrats they get up in their face they need to realize that there are a lot of unstable people out there. There are people with anger issues. There are people that are prone to violence. They might even live next door to you, you don't know where these people are. But what we shouldn't do is incite people to violence. The problem is, is rational people might back down. But what's going to happen when the guy comes with a gun to a rally, or comes with a knife to a rally, there is going to be an assassination if this doesn't ratchet down. And I think the other side needs to really calm the rhetoric down. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Remember, Senator Paul was attacked in his home. He was a senator. His private information was doc's by far left activists. Senator Paul's wife Kelly now sleeping with a loaded gun by her bed and sadly, many Republicans private contact information, that is being made publicly available by extreme left-wing radicals. In fact, one former Democratic intern was recently arrested for publicly outing the personal information of at least one Republican member of Congress. So, with 27 days to go until this, the most important midterm legend or a lifetime, you the American people have a real choice tonight. Will you reward the tactics of the left-wing mob? Will you support candidates who actually abandon due process, the Constitution, the presumption of innocence? Do you want a country where political differences are demonized day and night 24/7? Do you want Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Chuckie Schumer, you know, coming after your crumbs and raising your taxes, opening the border, blocking constitutional justices on the Supreme Court? Now, we have good news tonight. Republican candidates, they are picking up huge momentum. According to a brand-new poll from Scott Rasmussen, "Rasmussen Reports", remember, the most accurate poll in 2016 election, the congressional ballot is now dead even. Another poll showing 62 percent of Republicans are more likely to vote because of the Kavanaugh controversy and the way that Democrats act compared to just 54 percent of Democrats. Now, despite this momentum, Republicans, they are fighting in uphill battle -- make no mistake about it. In the past 100 years, the party that controls the White House has picked up seats in the House only three times. But with that said, you still have the power to shock the world again in just 27 days. Look at your screen. If you are in one of these congressional districts, you are going to decide the balance of power in Washington, D.C. Every night this week, we're going to focus on ten of these critical House races. Tonight, we start in Colorado's third district, where Republican incumbent Scott Tipton currently has an edge over Democratic challenger Diane Bush. In Colorado's sixth district, Republican incumbent Mike Hoffman is in the fight of his life against Democrat Jason Crow. This is a district that Hillary Clinton won by nine points. Mike Hoffman needs your help tonight. Let's head to New Mexico, the second district there, currently a toss-up. Both candidates fighting for an open seat in a district that President Trump carried by more than 10 points. And meanwhile, there are many toss-up seats in the great state of Texas. Look at Texas the seventh district, that encompasses part of Houston. Republican incumbent John Culberson is in a very tight race versus Democrat Lizzie Fletcher. In Texas, the 23rd district, Republican Will Hurd is currently favored in a race against Democrat Gina Ortiz Jones. In Texas 31 district, another incumbent Republican John Carter is also favored against the Democrat M.J. Hagar. And meanwhile, the 32nd district in suburban Dallas -- well, that's a toss- up tonight between Republican incumbent Pete Sessions and Democratic lawyer Colin Allred. This is a very important seat. Another important race that we're following is in Utah's fourth congressional district, where Republican rising star Mia Love has an edge over Democrat Ben McAdams. We need Mia Love back in the House. In the state of Washington, Republican House Conference chair Cathy McMorris-Rodgers has a slight edge over the Democrat Lisa Brown, an important race. In Washington eighth, Republican Dino Rossi is facing incumbent Kim Schrier in a race gaining a lot of national attention. Tonight, that race is a dead heat. Now, also tonight, it's very important to focus on the all-important Senate. All the states highlighted on your screen are up for grabs tonight. As we speak, popular Florida Governor Rick Scott has done an amazing job. Of course, he's focusing on the current hurricane that is pounding the Gulf Coast of his state and the panhandle. But his senatorial race against incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson is extremely tight in Florida. It's important to remember, Senator Nelson was a resounding no vote on Kavanaugh and by the way, like most of these senators on the Democratic side, beholden to Chuck Schumer, the Democratic Party, and of course, not the people of Florida. If you like due process in Florida, if you believe in Florida in the presumption of innocence and our great Constitution, it's time to send liberal Bill Nelson packing. And don't forget, Ron DeSantis who's running for governor, to keep the progress that Rick Scott has started there. Other red state Democratic senators are facing serious challenges from Republicans. These are all winnable races: North Dakota Democratic senator, Chuckie Schumer sycophant, Heidi Heitkamp is way down in the polls against Republican Kevin Cramer. In Montana, Democrat Jon Tester in a very tight race with Republican challenger Matt Rosendale. In Missouri, Democrat Claire McCaskill, she's losing ground. She is behind in her race against Josh Hawley. In Arizona, she is an American hero. Republican Martha McSally in a tight race, now slightly up in the latest polls for that open seat. In Nevada, Republican Senator Dean Heller, this is such an important race. A small lead in some recent polls that is tight in Nevada. And then, of course, there's Indiana. Democrat, Chuck Schumer lover Joe Donnelly, he's being challenged by Republican Michael Braun. That's an important race. Now, tomorrow, we're going to review more important races. We're going to go from the West Coast, all the way to the East Coast. Now, the left in this country will bank on emotions and rage and anger. Conservatives have got to be informed, energized and vote based on the principles of our Constitution that make this country great. Ronald Reagan rightfully warned: freedom is always just one generation away from extinction. In 27 days, you, we the people have a duty to defend that freedom for generations to come. Here's a question: are you -- are we as a country better off than we were just two short years ago? Is our economy better off? We now have record low unemployment and now an exploding economy because of the huge tax cuts, the crumbs that Democrats want back? Are we more safe? Are we more secure as a country than we were two years ago? The answer to that is yes, we are dramatically safer. Do you want this success to continue or do you want endless, frivolous non- stop, never-ending, second-by-second investigations and possible impeachment proceedings? Do you want higher taxes or more money in your pocket? Do you want your government to eliminate ICE and have open borders? Do you want the disaster of Obamacare to continue? Do you prefer constitutional conservative justices? This is what is at stake for this country and your vote matters. All right. Joining us now to discuss this is much more, the author of the best-selling book "The Briefing: Politics, the Press and the President", former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer. Also the author just out this week the brand-new book, "Why We Fight: Defeating America's Enemies with No Apologies", FOX News national security strategist Dr. Sebastian Gorka. So, we have Hillary saying we cannot be civil, doesn't want to be civil, and then we have Eric Holder, Sean Spicer, saying that, you know, kick them when they're on the ground. Wow. Is that -- is that what the Democratic Party is now reduced to? SEAN SPICER, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Well, look, Sean, to your point, it was somebody from the left that shot up a congressional baseball game last year, injuring Steve Scalise. It was a mob from the left that attacks Ted Cruz and his wife having dinner. It was a mob from the left that went after Kirstjen Nielsen at her home. It was a mob from the left that attacked Andy Harris at his congressional office, barricading him in and trying to break down doors. If this is what they think is civil, then we've got a big, big problem going on right now. It is the Maxine Waters and the Eric Holders that are talking about fight and putting things in people's faces, that is inciting this violence. So I would agree with Senator Rand Paul on this that we need to take this rhetoric down quick because the left is listening to those words that are inciting them to violence and action in a very, very violent way and that needs to stop. HANNITY: But, Dr. Gorka, they're literally saying get in their faces. They're saying, follow people into grocery stores, follow them at the gas station, get in their grill. By the way, Obama himself has also said it in in years past. They -- we watch and we witness, you know, Secretary Sanders, secretary -- I'm sorry, Press Secretary Sanders, Secretary Nielsen, Pam Bondi, women being run out of restaurants. Ted Cruz and his wife run out of a restaurant. At what point did they not see somebody's going to get hurt or worse here, Rand Paul is correct? DR. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: Not only is he correct, my former colleague Sean is absolutely correct. There's one side in the political debate, Sean, that has normalized violence and it isn't the GOP. It isn't the conservatives. It's the left, from Antifa to that baseball field in Virginia, to the riots on the streets. Look at the reality. This is why I wrote "Why We Fight". It's a wake-up call because this isn't just about Sarah Huckabee Sanders. This isn't about a senator from Texas. It's about all Americans who aren't rabid leftists, because this is what they will normalize. If they take control, this is your life forever. If you politically disagree with them, they will try to destroy you. That's what we saw with Justice Kavanaugh and we cannot allow that culture of political assassination of character to be normalized in America, Sean. HANNITY: You know, Sean Spicer, this is a political bludgeoning. One ingredient is so noticeably absent from the left today. What are their plans to help the American people to be more prosperous and more secure? I don't hear anything, any agenda. You know, what, we're going to go back to the Obama era of, what, 13 million more Americans on food stamps, eight million more in poverty? Horrible, the only president never to reach percent 3 GDP growth in history, a guy that took on more debt than every president before him combined? Is that would they want to go back to, dropping cargo planes of cash and other currencies on the tarmac for mullahs in Iran that chant death to America? Is that what this is about? SPICER: Well, I think it's even more than that. I mean, the reality is that when you look at the results of this president's delivering 3.7 percent economic growth through all sectors of our economy and in various demographics, 4.2 percent economic growth, something that was unthinkable a couple years back when the president took office, the trade deal that he just renegotiated with Mexico and Canada, our two largest trading partners to the north and south, all of the safety success that he's had foreign policy, not having a missile fired from North Korea. I mean, the president's getting results and that devoid them of an ability to find an opening to make an argument for what they would do because frankly, it's really hard to argue with the success and the results that we've been having. That makes them politically in a very -- in a very difficult situation. So, this is why I think inciting mobs and ratcheting up their rhetoric is the only way that they can go, because it's really hard to argue with the results that we're getting right now. HANNITY: A hard -- it's impossible. Eight years of failure, two years of a dramatic turnaround, on every level, every measurable statistic. Dr. Gorka, we give you the last word. GORKA: It's a very simple question. In 27 days, to all Americans out there, do you wish to stay safe? Do you wish to share in the prosperity that Donald Trump has managed to initiate in this country or do you want the mob to take over? HANNITY: All right. Thank you both. Congrats on your new book out this week, Dr. Gorka. I've read a page cover to cover, an amazing book. Well done. Same with you, Sean Spicer. All right. When we come back, at this hour, Hurricane Michael continues to pound the southeast. A live report coming up. Tammy Bruce, Jason Chaffetz, Newt Gingrich, straight ahead. HANNITY: And this is a FOX News alert. Hurricane Michael is hammering the Florida panhandle currently now a category hurricane one over the state of Georgia. Joining us now with the very latest, this is a cone that they're calling this a storm of a lifetime, FOX News chief meteorologist Rick Reichmuth tonight. Rick, this is a devastating direct hit. We don't even have the ability to now survey the damage at this point. RICK REICHMUTH, FOX NEWS CHIEF METEOROLOGIST: Yes, the video that's coming out already of the damage is incredible, and I think we'll see a lot more tomorrow once some of the water recedes, especially right down here close to where it came on shore, haven't been able to get in there. The water is still coming in. The storm surge hasn't been able to go down. Tomorrow, we'll start to get a better sense of some of that damage and what we're saying already is incredible. A 155-mile-an-hour sustained wind storm moving in short that's two miles an hour below category, Sean. This is the third lowest pressure we've ever had anywhere in the U.S. of a hurricane making landfall, at least in recorded history. Center of the storm now way up here moving in towards Central Georgia, and is still a hurricane winds at miles an hour, getting very close here to interstate 75, coming south of Macon. If you're thinking about going out on those roads, don't. Keep in mind, that is still hurricane force winds, well inland here, and very heavy rain as well. Storm direction overnight is going to move through Georgia. By tomorrow, moving here across the Carolinas. And really important to note, we just had all of that rain from Hurricane Florence, record-breaking rain that water's gone down. But the ground is really wet, and any kind of winds and we're going to be seeing winds probably 50 miles an hour here, throughout much of the day tomorrow and that will knock a lot of trees over, talking about a potential of about a half a million people without power in the north of the Carolinas from this storm as it moves on through. Eventually by Friday, it's out of here, but it's going to bring a lot of rain for a lot of people. We've also been dealing with incredible heat across much of the Eastern Seaboard, has not felt like fall at all. The same front that's moving through and it's going to pull this storm up offshore eventually. When that comes through, temps really plummet. It's going to feel like fall rapidly on Friday. And take a look at this. Friday morning, temps into the 50s in Panhandle of Florida, some people will be without power, things will be wet to get temperatures down into the 50s at that time, Sean, that's going to be very, very cold for people there who are trying to recover from the storm. HANNITY: All right. Rick Reichmuth, thank you. Storm of a lifetime and, by the way, for all of you, I know the -- I've had my sources in the White House say they have pre-positioned food, water, medicine, supplies, cots, blankets, baby formula, help is on the way and we pray for all of you tonight. We'll have updates throughout the hour. But first, once again, the left's rhetoric reaching a new low. You know just look at what Obama's attorney general, Eric Holder, pay attention -- kick them when they're down, kick them. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HOLDER: Michelle Obama, I love her. You know, she and my wife like really tight, which always scares me and Barack. But Michelle always says that, you know, when they go low, we go high. No, no. When they go low, we kick them. (APPLAUSE) HOLDER: That's what -- that's what this new Democratic Party is about. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Here with reaction, FOX News contributor Tammy Bruce, author of "The Deep State: How an Army of Bureaucrats Protected Barack Obama and is Working to Destroy the Trump Agenda", a "|New York Times" bestseller, former Utah Congressman Jason Chaffetz. Tammy, imagine for a second any conservative, any Republican acting this way in restaurants against Democratic women, what the result -- what people would be called, how the media would react to all of this and to that, you know, kick them. We can't be civil. Get in their faces. Follow them to grocery stores and in gas stations. Rand Paul - - something horrible is going to happen here. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. HANNITY: And the so-called leaders are literally adding fuel to the fire. And it is a mob they're inciting. BRUCE: Yes, look, this comes on the heels of course of a number of things that have already have occurred like these poison letters. Or at least letters with powder sent to people. Yes, invading an elevator with Jeff Flake. The sending of beheading videos to a senator's wife. It's been across the board. Of course the attempted murder of 24 GOPers. An attempted stabbing of another GOP candidate. But consider, Sean, these are the same people who for the last several weeks have been decrying and going crazy over the issue of violence against women, right? We've been listening to that through the Kavanaugh hearing. And yet, now here they are advocating for violence against some women because not all conservatives are men. A lot of us are women. And so this kind of rhetoric when Eric Holder says they're going to kick us when we've been doing politics or whatever it is that they don't like, those -- some of those people are going to be attacked are going to be women. So how -- for the American people regardless of what the media does, we see it for what it is. We must see the hypocrisy but not even just the hypocrisy on policy. HANNITY: Yes. BRUCE: This is about using violence against people and frankly, it's what a batterer does. They're effectively saying if you do not comply, we will hurt you. HANNITY: Scary. BRUCE: And we won't hurt you if you do comply. But that's a lie also. The attempts to harm us will never end at this point. HANNITY: You know, congressman, you sent me a little text message the other day. And I thought a lot about it. Thought it made a lot of sense. That is in 27 days from now, if Nancy Pelosi, it would be, this would be the four weeks from tonight, we'll be talking about the results of the midterms. If the Democrats take over the House or God forbid the House and the Senate, you pointed out what it would look like. I'll throw the floor to you. Paint the picture so people fully understand this. JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: If the Democrats gain control, particularly in the House, Nancy Pelosi becomes the speaker. We give the gavel back to her and her lieutenants literally, Maxine Waters becomes the chairman of financial services for the United States of America House of Representatives. Jerry Nadler takes over as it gets the gavel in the House judiciary committee. We've already been talking about doing impeachment. Elijah Cummings somebody I served with, will be the chairman of the oversight committee and will just bombard the White House with investigations and drop the investigations that Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows and Gowdy and Ratcliffe have been doing and what Devin Nunes have been doing. All of that gets drop. Adam Schiff becomes -- he gets the gavel. He gets the direction at the intel committee. This is what you vote for, America. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I think-- CHAFFETZ: That's right. And so when you look like Scott Tipton on the western slope of Colorado, that's important. Because if we don't win that seat back, Mike Coffman they are in the Denver area, then guess what? Nancy Pelosi gets to make those decisions. HANNITY: But there's no -- but congressman, there's no positive agenda. We've had record low unemployment, 14 states. CHAFFETZ: Yes. HANNITY: African-Americans, Hispanic- Americans, women in the workplace, Asian-Americans, vets, youth unemployment, look at 4.2 percent GDP growth. Really? Are we going back? Do people understand the real importance and the stakes here? CHAFFETZ: Under Obama, the Democrats at the local and state federal level lost 1,000 seats. Don't hand it back over to them because it drove us into the ground. America is smarter than that. HANNITY: Tammy? BRUCE: Yes. Americans want solutions. We want polices. We want legislations that improves our lives. Removes government from our back. Only the Republicans are bringing that to us right now. All the Democrats have are threats. HANNITY: A lot -- a lot at stake in 27 days. BRUCE: Yes. HANNITY: I hope people understand the severity of what's at stake. Thank you both. When we come back, Newt Gingrich he reacts to fake news CNN anchor scolding a guest for calling left wing radicals who chase and harassed Republicans a mob. In other words, they're normalizing this behavior. We'll get to that and Devin Nunes, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. So as we expected from fake news CNN, Brooke Baldwin and Don Lemon are now defending and trying to normalize the left's mob behavior. Take a look at this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MATT LEWIS, SENIOR COLUMNIST, THE DAILY BEAST: When you see Ted Cruz getting run out of restaurants by a mob-- (CROSSTALK) BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN HOST: You're not going to use the mob word here. (CROSSTALK) LEWIS: I will. Look, it's totally a mob. It is without a doubt. BALDWIN: Hey, Matt. LEWIS: There's no other word for it. BALDWIN: Matt. A mob? Stop. Stop. LEWIS: That is mob behavior. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How many times has that happened -- (CROSSTALK) DON LEMON, CNN HOST: Matt, hold on. Everybody, stop. Everybody stop. Matt, we already did that. We already said they weren't mobs. No, it's not mob behavior. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you. LEWIS: Yes, they are. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. LEMON: It's people who are upset and they're angry with the way the country is going and the policies-- (CROSSTALK) LEWIS: So, they're just-- LEMON: Would you let me finish, Matt, please, before you jump in? OK? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Here with reaction, author of the New York Times bestseller, "Trump's America: The Truth About Our Nation's Great Comeback," the only person who is really talking about it, Fox News contributor former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich. All right. So we are 27 days at Election Day. We watch three weeks of just the abandonment of any due process and presumption of innocence. Then you've got Sarah Sanders, Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielson, Senator McConnell, Cruz, they are being chased out of restaurants. Hillary Clinton says we cannot as Democrats be civil. And Eric Holder is saying when they go low, kick them. Meaning, political opposition. Will this work in 27 days? Is that their strategy? NEWT GINGRICH, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, we're seeing the emergence in a very weird of a brown shirt party, to use the term for the people who are in (Inaudible) Germany went out and really dominated the streets by brute force. They can't win. They didn't win in the Senate. They didn't win in the presidency. In my judgdment, they're not going to win on election day and they're becoming more hysterical, more anti-Democratic, more willing to destroy the system. Abraham Lincoln warned that there are people who oppose us so much it's their way or they destroy it. And I think that we're faced with that kind of opposition. So, I mean, let's have an open public debate. If you think people like Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton should be allowed to impose their will by brute violence, then you ought to vote Democrat. If you think that's profoundly wrong, then you ought to vote Republican. HANNITY: We now have Rasmussen today. Republicans now lead Democrats by a pretty healthy margin in terms of enthusiasm. And what was just maybe two months ago, a huge gap in terms of generic ballot. It's now dead even according to Rasmussen. So there's been a dramatic shift here. So going forward the next 27 days, you're a great strategist, a great historian. What do Republican candidates Senate and House need to say and do to win? GINGRICH: Look, I think Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy has given us a perfect example of the kind of campaign that we need to wage the next few weeks. McCarthy has introduced a bill which basically says if you want to stop Fentanyl for killing your children, if you want to stop car Fentanyl which is even worse from killing your children, if you want to stop MS-13 from terrorizing your neighborhood, if you want to stop human tracking, we have to control the southern border. Now the other side says, the Democrats say no, no, we need open borders, sanctuary cities, abolish ICE. Let's have a referendum. Everybody who thinks we don't have enough crime in America, we don't have enough drugs in America, we don't have enough violence in America, vote Democrat. Everybody thinks that Kevin McCarthy is right, we need to control the border, get back to a point where our children and our neighborhoods are safe, vote Republican. HANNITY: You know, are we better off as a country in terms of our security than we were two years ago? Is the economy by every measure better off? I think we know the answer. It's interesting. You were on my radio show today and I mentioned in California where Gavin Newsome, you would think, is up by 20 points, it's now almost within the margin of error. John Cox a businessman is running against him. This is a sanctuary state and he's offering health care to everybody. Everyone. That means, legal, illegal, the highly taxed -- the high level of taxation in California. It puts an open, basically anybody that gets sick in America, go out to California and they'll take care of you. GINGRICH: Look, I just want to share with the audience who knows how close you and I have been for all of these years. You blew me away on the radio show today. I mean, I was standing there going, my God. This is a new way of thinking about it. Because you're right. Basically the way that the Democrats have set it up in California, if you're in Tennessee, or New York or Texas and you have a serious disease, Gavin Newsome is sending you a signal. Come to California and let us pay for it. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We'll take care of it. GINGRICH: I think every governor in the country ought to be campaigning for him. They'll be campaigning for Newsome because they're going -- they have a chance here to send every sick person in their state to California and let Newsome do it. Now if I were a Californian, I would think that was insane. But you picked it up today. I never thought about the domestic side of that. And you're exactly right. HANNITY: Well, that's what they're saying. You don't have to be a resident. Thirteen and a half percent state income tax out in California right now. It's going to be higher. All right, Mr. Speaker, 27 days to go-- (CROSSTALK) GINGRICH: No, under Newsome, I think under Newsome it gets to 25. That's my prediction. HANNITY: OK. GINGRICH: Twenty five percent income tax. HANNITY: All right. Twenty seven days to go, Mr. Speaker. We'll have you on a lot between now and then. Thank you for being with us. All right. Huge drama as it relates to the deep state Rod Rosenstein. He's refusing to testify under oath in front of lawmakers. And we'll get an update from Kristin Fisher. Also Devin Nunes is going to give us the inside scoop as we continue on this breaking news night tonight on Hannity. HANNITY: We're learning tonight that Rod Rosenstein will not be meeting with lawmakers as was apparently scheduled tomorrow. Joining us now with the very latest, live from Washington is our own Kristin Fisher. Kristin, the latest. KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, a lot to dissect from this hearing today, Sean. Things really got heated when Republican Senator Ron Johnson asked the FBI Director Christopher Wray why his committee has not been allowed to see key documents related to the Russia probe. Documents like the application for the FISA warrant that was used to wire at a former Trump campaign aide Carter Page. The senator told him it was time to rip off the Band Aid. Well here's how the FBI director responded to that. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRISTOPHER WRAY, DIRECTOR, FBI: I understand the attraction of the rip off the Band Aid approach but I also understand in many cases we're talking about situations that involve foreign partner relationships, trade craft and all kinds of other things. We need to be careful about protection. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: Now the senator also pressed him on when his committee would get a copy of the McCabe memos detailing the former acting FBI director's meeting with the deputy A.G. Rod Rosenstein where he allegedly suggested secretly recording the president. When asked if he would get the memo by his deadline, which is just five days from now, the FBI director said I'll have to get back to you on that. Now Rosenstein as you said, Sean, he was actually expected to be on Capitol Hill tomorrow. He was set to meet with the House judiciary committee. But that meeting has been put on hold until the two sides can agree on terms. The negotiations are ongoing. But no idea tonight as to when that meeting will happen, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Kristin Fisher in Washington. Mark Meadows saying tonight that Rod Rosenstein owes the American people an answer. Joining us now from the World A.G. Expo in California, the chairman of the House intelligence community -- committee, rather, Devin Nunes is with us. Rod Rosenstein, this is the guy that recommended the firing of comey, this is the guy that appointed Mueller, signed the final FISA warrant application, the third renewal, and this is a guy that Lisa Page, Andrew McCabe, and James Baker, congressman, all say talked about wearing a wire against President Trump in the hopes of invoking the 25th Amendment. He owes us answers to that. REP. DEVIN NUNES, (R) CALIFORNIA: He owes us answers. He's not coming tomorrow, which I think should be very telling. The story is that he possibly wanted to come and have a cup of coffee with Chairman Goodlatte. That's not acceptable. He needs to come nd testify under oath. If you look as the story tonight, Sean, that's breaking in The Washington Post, you have both McCabe and Rosenstein fighting over what happens at the at the time of when he wanted to wear a wire, whether or not he wanted to wear a wire and who was responsible for what. So, clearly, what this is, is this is the investigators who have no one watching them, no one to investigate them and they're running amuck. Running amuck so much that they won't even come to testify to Congress. It's pretty pathetic. HANNITY: They're both arguing over who should have recused themselves. Frankly, both of them should have recused themselves now that we know what we know. NUNES: Right, exactly. HANNITY: The president said he declassify and send out the unredacted FISA applications, the bulk of which the information came from the phony dossier that Hillary paid for and the FISA, and the fraud on the FISA court. Where are those declassified documents that the president said he would release? Where are the 302s between Christopher Steele and Bruce Ohr? NUNES: Well, the same thing is true, Sean. The same people who are arguing tonight on the pages of The Washington Post, whether or not which one should recuse themselves, right. So this was over a year ago when the special counsel was appointed. They're supposedly arguing in front of Mueller who should be recused. And like you said, they both should have been recused. Those same people, or at least the deputy attorney general who will not come to Congress to testify under oath is the same person who is blocking the American people from being able to see this information that we in the Congress have been asking for now a couple months for the president to declassify them. The president actually said I want this immediately declassified without redactions and then shortly after that, the deputy attorney general convenes a meeting to convince the president, well, we need to have the I.G. to look at this. And that's where we stand right now with declassification. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We need to see the whole report. NUNES: This is a whole new escalation. HANNITY: They can't take 18 more months, congressman. NUNES: Yes. I don't think we need an I.G. report, Sean. I think -- I think it's ridiculous, Sean, that we need an I.G. to do-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I agree. I agree with you. NUNES: OK. I don't have a problem with I.G. I want the stuff to be declassified. HANNITY: I agree whole heartedly. And frankly, a second -- a real special counsel ought to be appointed. The FBI director saying today he won't say whether or not the president is being wiretapped today? Are you kidding me? NUNES: I mean, yes. I don't know -- some of that questioning goes in little different directions. But let's go back to the main point here that we need -- we really need to know at the start of the special prosecutor, special counsel, when remember, people are losing sight of this, that the chief investigators at the time had no evidence of Trump campaign colluding with Russians. And so why do we have a special counsel in the first place? HANNITY: It looks like Lisa Page said they have nothing in nine months so they start a media leak strategy so they can create the atmosphere of something that never took place. It is outrageous. Chairman, you've been amazing. Thank you for being with us. All right. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh responds to Hillary Clinton's call for incivility. You don't want to miss that, next. HANNITY: Earlier tonight, Rush Limbaugh analyze the true meaning of Hillary Clinton calling for incivility towards Republicans. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: Hillary Clinton went out the other day in an interview with Christiane Amanpour and pretty much admitted everything I have been trying to warn people of about the American left and the Democratic Party. She went out there and in her best Maxine Waters impersonation was encouraging people to be uncivil. We are not in the battle of ideas anymore, we are not in argument over ideas. They don't -- they are not even looking at any of this as about ideas. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Rush is right. All right. Down tomorrow night an announcement Project Veritas as James O'Keefe has undercover video it will blow your mind, that's tomorrow, at 9 Eastern. Twenty six days until Election Day. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Laura Ingraham takes it away. Laura? Load-Date: October 11, 2018 End of Document What the Democrats are Sending Out as Lessons to Kids, that Violence is All Right to Push Your Agenda, They are Becoming Unhinged Causing Chaos; Lesson from Reagan on How to Handle Protesters; Media's Use of the Word Mob Having a Double Standard Between Democrats and Republicans; Taylor Swift Encourages Young People to Vote at Awards Show; House Republicans Propose Bill for Building Border Wall with Mexico; Criticism of Kanye West for Supporting President Trump Examined Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 10, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7929 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Byron York, Raymond Arroyo, Guests: Rochelle Ritchie, Dan Bongino, Craig Shirley, Richard Goodstein, Kevin McCarthy, Candace Owens Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: It will blow your mind, that's tomorrow, 9:00 eastern. Twenty-six days (inaudible) election day. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Laura Ingraham takes it away, Laura. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, great show as always tonight. Thanks so much. HANNITY: Have a great show. INGRAHAM: And I am Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE coming to you from Washington tonight. The mainstream media really wants you to think that what you see right here is not a mob. I wonder what they said about the Tea Party? We'll remind you. Also President Trump promised a border wall and House majority leader Kevin McCarthy is trying to make it happen. Well, they better do it. He joins me later in the show on what he saw at the border just today. And Raymond Arroyo has, you know, he got a lot of attention for last Friday's fall -- seen around the world -- even from some Hollywood heavyweights. Was it an accident or was it staged? We'll explain in "Seen and Unseen." Plus, the devastating aftermath left in a Hurricane Michael's wake. We are going to monitor that throughout the hour and bring you any important updates so keep it right here. But first, what they are teaching our children. That's a focus of tonight's ANGLE. Remember the old Graham Nash song? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Teach your children well as their father's hell did slowly go by. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Beautiful song released in 1970. It kind of became one of the unofficial anthems for the anti-Vietnam war movement. And Nash has even updated the song for a new time to cover the Women's March, anti-gun marches and President Trump. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Teach your parents well, the children's hell will slowly go by. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, isn't that sweet. Kids, that's what you're supposed to think of the president. So what are the kids actually learning lately from the current band of protesters? Well, one of my sons stopped to look at the TV on Saturday. We're all watching the Kavanaugh vote, and he saw the live feed of some of the chaos outside of the Supreme Court. Like, what's that, he asked. And are they even supposed to be doing that? He was reacting later to scenes like this and video of senators being cornered in elevators. So, I tried to give an explanation that I thought was appropriate for a 10-year-old and said something like, those people, Dimitri (ph) are angry about the Supreme Court and the man -- a friend of mommy -- President Trump chose as the next justice. And he kind of said, oh, he scrunched up his little nose and said, can't we watch something else? But it made me think a lot about this. The Kavanaugh battle has brought out the worst in the Democrats and our kids are watching. Rather than re-examine their tactics following the seismic defeat, liberals have a decided to go even lower. And by the way, it's not happening just in Washington. In Minneapolis, a special education teacher identified in reports as Samantha Ness was placed on administrative leave for tweeting the following -- "So whose going to take one for the team and kill Kavanaugh?" Wait, the first offense is that the teacher doesn't know the difference between the possessive and contraction for who is. The genius followed up with this, "Brett Kavanaugh will be dealing with death threats for the rest of his life being on the Supreme Court. I doubt my mid-west ass is a real threat." This is someone interested to shape young minds? Well, she has since resigned. But I wonder how many others are like her out there. Maybe they're not tweeting but doing other things. And how about this marquee outside of a south Charlotte middle school in North Carolina the other day? It read -- you can see it there, kind of -- "F" Kavanaugh. It was apparently created by some leftist vandal. But what an uplifting message for the children to absorb while being dropped off at school. Totally disgraceful. Something has changed since the Kavanaugh nomination. There is a desperate, far more unhinged nastiness on the left that we have seen as well spill into the classroom setting. Remember, universities excused class absences for Cancel Kavanaugh rallies. And that was preceded over the past year by marauding bands of frenzied leftists who are out there vandalizing and destroying historical statutes, well, just because they could and because they suddenly found the statutes offensive. And of course we have the celebrities feeling totally free to threaten the life of the president. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MADONNA, ARTIST: I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. JOHNNY DEPP, ACTOR: When was the last time an actor assassinated a president? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And if a celebrity who dares to give voice to a different political viewpoint, like Kanye West, he is ridiculed with words that would get any conservative on television either boycott it or, most likely, fired. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DON LEMON, CNN SHOW HOST: Kanye West is what happens when negroes don't read. And we have this now and now Donald Trump is going to use it and pervert it and he's going to have somebody who can stand with him and take pictures. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It's hilarious. No, it's disgusting. Doesn't the left realize that our children, they are watching this. That they are teaching them that the cruder you are, the more violent you are, the further you will advance your agenda, the more attention you will get. The cooler you will be considered. The sad thing is, these vicious liberals not only don't care about kids they use them in an attempt to score pathetic political points. I had almost forgotten somehow about this campaign during Trump's immigration policies. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- screaming, "Get out of my country," Republicans use offensive words. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Now here's a few of our own. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (BLEEP) racist (BLEEP). If you don't like our constitution and what it stands for? Get the (BLEEP) out of my country. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, some have faulted the president for his, you know, the (inaudible) lines at rallies promising to knock the hell out of a country or telling a protester to get the hell out of here. I get, that's fine. Criticize him for that. But does that really have the visual power of something like this? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: We believe that we will win! We believe that we will win! We believe that we will win! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And we will not forget! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: And we will not forget! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We will not go back! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: We will not go back! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Women vote! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: Women vote! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Survivors vote! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: Survivors vote! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And that could just be the beginning. Democratic leaders from Maxine Waters to Cory Booker have advocated more harassment and aggressive, get-in-their-face tactics over the recent days. And now former attorney general and Democratic presidential hopeful perhaps, Eric Holder is adding his voice to the hateful chorus. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ERIC HOLDER, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL: When they go low, we go high. No. When they go low, we kick them. (LAUGHTER) That's what this new Democratic Party is about. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, I agree with him. That is the new Democratic Party. And I fear that this language and this persistent anger factory we are seeing, the chaos on the left, it's going to get someone killed. It almost killed Steve Scalise last year. On my radio show today, Senator Chuck Grassley, of course the chairman of the judiciary committee had a message for Democrats. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CHUCK GRASSLEY (R), IOWA: Public officials, and I'm not a perfect public official, but I think we all ought to set an example of civility. They got a responsibility to renounce it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I'll say. And by not renouncing it and by not denouncing the mobs, the message and the mayhem, the Democratic leadership is tacitly encouraging more of the harassment and more of the intimidation. Remember all of those anti-bullying PSA the Obama White House did? Well now the Democrats are the worst bullies around. Children don't listen as closely as they watch. So, what would they take away from scenes like this? (VIDEO PLAYING) INGRAHAM: Yes. Look at it. Doesn't even look like it's -- it could be somewhere in the Middle East during some terrorist event. And while the heat of this political moment will pass, if we really want to teach our children well, we all better get back to the basics. That means values like respect, decorum and a civil discourse. And that's THE ANGLE. Joining me now is Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent and author of the new book, "Spygate." And also joining me is Rochelle Ritchie, former press secretary for the House Democrats. Rochelle, let's start with you. What will the Democratic response be if something horrific happens because of the anger and the frenzy, both congresswomen, senators and others are either tacitly encouraging or actually encouraging with their words? ROCHELLE RITCHIE, FORMER HOUSE DEMOCRAT PRESS SECRETARY: Well, Laura, you know, you mentioned that someone might be killed as a result of what we're hearing coming from the left, but I want to say that someone already has been killed as a result of what's coming from the right and that's Heather Heyer. And really the hypocrisy that we're seeing coming from Republicans right now is killing objective thinking. The inability of the GOP to think objectively and to hold themselves to the same accord as they hold everyone else is literally like a plague that is spreading throughout our politics. If we think that people that banging on the doors of the Supreme Court aimlessly, you know, it was kind of ridiculous I will admit, but if we think those people are a mob then we should also think that people that -- INGRAHAM: Do you encourage that, Rochelle? Is that -- was that what you actually consider to be civil protest or what we saw with Antifa in Portland? Preventing a car or harassing an elderly American holding up a go -- RITCHIE: I don't claim Antifa, and like I just said a second ago, I thought banging on the doors of the Supreme Court aimlessly was a little bit ridiculous. But also, keep in mind that Congressman Cleaver was actually spat on during the Tea Party Movement from people who were angry about Obamacare. So that -- INGRAHAM: Well who was encouraging that? Yes, who was encouraging that? No one was encouraging that. No Republicans said get in their faces, go out and harass them, go to restaurants. Dan Bongino, let's get you in on this. RITCHIE: Well, you had -- INGRAHAM: We weren't encouraging people to do that. That never happened. Dan Bongino, go ahead. RITCHIE: There were -- there were -- there were, but -- yes there were. We'll get to it. DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Yes. I just want to note that what Rochelle just did is really gross and I want to call her out for that immediately. What happened to Ms. Heyer in Charlottes -- I didn't interrupt you. I'd appreciate it if you let me speak. It's the right thing to do. We are trying to be civil, correct. OK, thank you. RITCHIE: Now we are. BONGINO: What you did was grotesque. What you did was quite gross. The Republicans, Donald Trump and conservatives have absolutely nothing to do with a deranged murdering maniac who runs a woman over in Charlottesville. That is gross. President Trump denounced that immediately and you bringing that up in the context of this is disgusting. RITCHIE: He said there were good and bad people on both sides. BONGINO: All right, Rochelle, why don't you just take over the debate? Go ahead. RITCHIE: No, you can go ahead. BONGINO: Go ahead. Thank you. I'm allowed to speak now. RITCHIE: Yes, and I'm allowed to respond. BONGINO: OK, thank you. I appreciate your permission then. INGRAHAM: Let him say something and then you can respond, Rochelle. That will be fine. RITCHIE: OK. BONGINO: The point is what you're doing is you didn't answer the question. You distracted everybody by going to Charlottesville, which the Republicans denounced. And then you had to fabricate another one, that Cleaver was spit on. He was not spit on, you are making that up. Those stories about what happened during the Obamacare debates are completely fabricated. Those are nonsense events. You are asked a simple question about if you should denounce violence on the left and you made it about something else other than answer the question which frequently liberals do. INGRAHAM: Rochelle? RITCHIE: Well, I'm just going to respond by saying this. First of all that story is completely true. I would encourage - - (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: By going back into Cleaver and the state (ph), let's try to keep it because we have limited time. Let's keep it focused to what's happening right now because I think we all do care about what kids take away from this. Whether it's kids in an immigration video saying "F" the president, putting up their middle finger or whether it's people going up to individuals with their children or their family, their wives, their husbands in a restaurant and screaming them out of a restaurant. It is incumbent upon both Republicans and Democrats -- RITCHIE: Agreed. INGRAHAM: -- to stand up and say, no, you will not do this. We don't (inaudible). And when Eric Holder is out there saying, we will kick them. I mean, Michelle Obama actually said, when they go low, we will go high. And apparently Eric Holder like no, we're not going to go -- we are going to actually kick them and they'd be even worse, who knows. RITCHIE: Well I think it should be -- INGRAHAM: You can't be for that Rochelle. RITCHIE: Oh, absolutely. I definitely don't think that you should assault anyone but I also think that we have to remember -- and if people go back and look at what Eric Holder said, he followed that statement up with saying, "I don't think that we should not do anything illegal or inappropriate. So, I'm taking this kick them as kick them out of the House and kick them out of the Senate come November. INGRAHAM: But is that how things are shared, Dan, on social media, going back to the way young people consume media? What are they going to consume, Dan? BONGINO: You know, Laura, I just can't understand why the left just can't simply admit their people make mistakes and say really dumb things. Now Eric Holder was talking about kicking them out of the house -- that is not what he said. I mean -- RITCHIE: No, I said purposely (ph) that way. BONGINO: I was like -- you know what, take over the whole debate. Go ahead. Knock yourself out. INGRAHAM: I want to play something really quickly. This is from Rand Paul's wife, Kelly, after of course a lot of this chaos out there. She said this back on October 8th just a couple of days ago. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KELLY PAUL, RAND PAUL's WIFE: There are so many frankly unhinged people and unstable people out there, and when they hear someone on their side telling them, get up in their face, they take that literally. Because of the violence that Rand has experience in the last year, it does scare me that there is going to be somebody that is really unstable that takes that message a step further. We've updated all of our security systems at home. I sleep with a loaded gun by my bed. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Dan, final thoughts? BONGINO: Yes. I mean, he was attacked. He had broken ribs. He apparently is coming down with frequent cases of pneumonia now. I mean, these are real cases. These aren't fabricated cases like the Sarah Palin Pact with the bull's eye (inaudible) to raise money. These are real cases of leftist violence. I just wish the left would step up and say, hey, this is all wrong. We condemn it. Maxine Waters, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, tone it down, it's not right. INGRAHAM: Both of you, thank you so much. We'll have you both back. Fantastic segment. In the type of nonviolence we've been seeing from the left, it's nothing new. In fact, this has been around since Ronald Reagan was governor of California in the 1960's, and he had his own way though of dealing with the problem. Joining us now with insight, it's important to get some, Reagan biographer presidential historian Craig Shirley. Craig, I've been dying to talk to you. As the temperature is rising now, you get the sense especially social media, that's a big difference between now and back in 1969. People are able to coalesce in a place really fast and assault people I public places, you know, verbally or otherwise. But how did Reagan deal with it and how might we learn from that? CRAIG SHIRLEY, PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN: Laura, he dealt with it with a lot of wit and grace. I remember one time during the Vietnam War, he was confronted by a smelly, malodorous, dirty disheveled hippie. It may have been Bill Clinton probably now, but the hippie was carrying a sign that said, "Make Love, Not War." Reagan looked at the hippie and he looked at the sign and he turned to an aide and says, "You know, from the looks of him, I don't think he would do either." (LAUGHTER) SHIRLEY: So, he had a way of -- one time he was in his limo in Berkeley. Again, there was a group of unruly students out there, anti-war protesters and they were making a scene and making themselves obnoxious. Reagan got a piece of paper, wrote on the piece of paper and put it up the windshield and it said, "I'm selling my bonds." INGRAHAM: Oh my god. Yes. SHIRLEY: He had a way of dealing with these things by turning humor to his advantage, which can be a great asset in American politics. INGRAHAM: Yes, I mean, you've seen Trump in recent days of his rallies. He's actually been extremely funny, but at the same time -- SHIRLEY: He's been very good. INGRAHAM: -- but at the same time it's a different environment media-wise. The media was against Reagan. They hated Reagan was president, but there is something different about the way the clips on social media are shared. But I do want to play something for you. This is from 1969 and this is in a public meeting with the Berkeley administration during all of the chaos on campus. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RONALD REAGAN, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: And all of it began the first time some of you who know better and are old enough to know better, let young people think that they have the right to choose the laws they would obey as long as they were doing it in the name of social protest. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Boy, is that appropriate for today's time? I mean, what are we teaching the kids. You can trash something and pull down a statue because you don't like it. Give the middle finger to the president because, you know, someone gave you the lines to say? SHIRELY: He broke it down to its elements, to its components and he revealed what was really going on there which was just lesson (ph) by social justice. So it's about creating injustice. Look, this is the essential difference between the Tea Party of some years ago and the protesters of today. The Tea Party was defending institutions. The protesters of today are trying to tear down institutions and that's the essential difference between the two. INGRAHAM: Yes, I think you've heard from some of the individuals who have gotten in the faces of the senators, and they say they want to take it all down. There was a piece in the "Huffington Post" today by one of them. They want to take it down. It's not about winning a particular point or even a Supreme Court seat. It's about taking down the entire framework which is just fomenting injustice against various minority groups in their view. SHIRLEY: We are witnessing the 21st version of the French revolution. The French revolution as you recall was about tearing down all institutions in France, destroying everything, marriage, contracts, money, government, property, everything, in order to achieve what they call at the time social justice. And that is what the modern left anti-protesters, Antifa protesters are about. It's about destroying all fabric of society in order to start over and everybody supposedly starts out on an even playing field. INGRAHAM: OK. I'm hoping we hide all the guillotines at this point. Craig Shirley, thanks so much for joining us. And when it comes to what constitutes a mob, well the media, they have a simple formulation. As Craig just alluded to, GOP Tea Party protests in 2009, a mob. Antifa like tactics from the left now? Not a mob. The video evidence, when we return. INGRAHAM: Only the media can tell you the American people when a mob is or isn't an actual mob. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LEMON: I will answer you question that you asked of her. Is it mob behavior? No it's not mob behavior. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, it is. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. LEMON: It's people who are upset and they are angry with the way the country is going. It is Thursday the 6th of August and here are the top stories right here in the "CNN Newsroom." Democracy at work or is it mob rule? Angry protesters disrupt healthcare town hall. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And here is Chris Matthews of MSNBC performing the very same time warp trip. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNBC HOST: -- the president's Republican allies tried to channel their supporters outrage and were protesting to a winning issue by casting Democrats is an angry mob. Townhall meetings on healthcare are turning into mob scenes, noisy, angry and vengeful crowds are shutting down members of Congress. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, the clear message is when a GOP crowd shows up -- it's definitely a mob, even if they are wearing like period garb. But when liberal activist accost senators in elevators and scream folks out of restaurants, they are just voicing their opinion very forcefully. I see. It's really easy. Joining me now, my friend Richard Goodstein, Democratic strategist and former aide to the Clintons, and Byron York, Fox News contributor and correspondent at "The Washington Examiner." Richard, let's start with you. Do you at least admit this is a massive double standard? RICHARD GOODSTEIN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: I think what was happening -- INGRAHAM: Yes, Laura, I do. GOODSTEIN: What was happening around the Tea Party was people, we heard about the spitting incident, whether it happened or not, they were objecting to having more people get healthcare. And now what people are objecting to -- INGRAHAM: No, that's not true. GOODSTEIN: -- is babies in cages. They're objecting to the fact that women were being degraded by the president in his own rally, degrading somebody who came forward who said that she was, you know, kind of assaulted by Brett Kavanaugh. Somebody standing up for their First Amendment rights of speech and assembly. And, you know, I guess the question is I think people get into public life senators. I don't think their skin is as thin as you're suggesting they are, but when people get in their face, they can handle it. They have seen worse. They've been local officials most of them. I don't think this is something that was novel (ph). BYRON YORK, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: It's almost as if, now that President Trump is using the word, it has now become a forbidden word in some places of the media. I think you need to separate different kinds of actions. There are big protests in Washington all the time and they are not -- INGRAHAM: You know, the March for our Lives was just, you know, there was no problem there. There was a lot of people that showed up and no problem with it. YORK: If you have a group of people who are trying to intimidate certain people, who are trying to shut down a public building like the (inaudible)- - INGRAHAM: Get in their faces. YORK: They were banging on the doors of the Supreme Court or who were stopping people like Ted Cruz or Kirstjen Nielsen from having dinner in a restaurant, I think that is mob-like behavior and it just is, and the fact that so many now are denying and it's not just CNN and MSNBC. You're seeing it in newspapers as well. It's just not true. INGRAHAM: Well, hold on, the words not allowed or it's looked at in a different way today. I think you're right about that. Let's watch another series of examples of how the word was used back in 2009 at the height of the Tea Party. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Desperate Republicans and their well-funded allies are organizing angry mobs. This mob activity is straight from the playbook of high-level Republican political operatives. They have no plan for moving our country forward so they've called out the mob. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Different lobbying groups are doing their part, they are turning out the mobs -- mob scenes at town hall Tea Party events. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are we free or are we slaves under conservative mob law? (END VIDEO CLIP) GOODSTEIN: So, let's see how -- INGRAHAM: Can't you see -- (CROSSTALK) GOODSTEIN: Here's how successful that was. All this mob talk, right, had Barack Obama lose 63 seats in 2010, right. INGRAHAM: Yes, we're not arguing that. GOODSTEIN: And I'm just saying is what Donald Trump and his supporters are trying to do is, it's MS-13, it's Maxine Waters, it's Hillary -- lock her up (inaudible) so everybody around Trump is going to be put in jail. And somehow the mob now, it's the mob -- INGRAHAM: Richard, see, when you say something like that -- you're such a smart person, everyone around Trump is getting locked up. That's not true. That's like the classic pundit overstatement that we'll just kind of -- GOODSTEIN: Fine. OK, it's a lot of people. My point is -- INGRAHAM: A lot of people? GOODSTEIN: My point is that this whole mob thing is now the enemy. That's the other, right. And I don't think we are going to ride that. I don't think you and your supporters are going to ride that Election Day. INGRAHAM: Oh, we're going to ride -- no. GOODSTEIN: I think the mob that Donald Trump has to worry about, the mobs of Democrats showing up to vote. That's the mob he has to worry about. INGRAHAM: That's a nice turn of phrase but it kind of avoids the point we are saying. I think the point that a lot of conservatives are concerned about and maybe independents given the reaction to Kavanaugh. Is that if they are going to do things like they've done to Joe Manchin, take his money away, even others who are not supportive in their own party, what are they going to do if they get power back? I mean, what type of punishment will be levied against others who don't agree or who don't agree with the social construct they want to foist upon America? YORK: Well, they might try to remove Brett Kavanaugh from Supreme Court. I think there is -- Republicans have gotten onto something here and it's because of what we saw in the Kavanaugh battle and they are -- how many times have you heard Democrats in the past describe Republicans as extremists? And now look at what's happening? President Trump is talking about the Democrats being extremist. There are mob actions. They're going to take your Medicare for goodness sake. So, Republicans think that they have found a new theme to use 27 days before the election. INGRAHAM: I think it's all about turnout, Richard is right about that, turning people out and I think the Democrats are very good. They have a lot of money to turn out people to vote. Hollywood is helping out with that ultimately. But they had a lot of anti-Trump mojo. The Republicans needed that unity. They didn't have it before they have it now. I want to play something that was released from the Melania Trump interview with ABC about women and survivors and who needs to be heard. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MELANIA TRUMP, FIRST LADY: I support the women and they need to be heard of. We need to support them. And, you know, also men not just women. We need to show the evidence. You cannot just say it to somebody, I was, you know, sexually assaulted or you did that to me, or because sometimes the media goes too far and the way they portray some stories. It's not correct. It's not right. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I thought a lion was going to emerge in the backdrop there in Kenya. It's like a very visual set. She's been like filleted by mostly the left for saying that because like, this tweet response by Page Pate, University of Georgia law professor, "Victim's testimony is legally sufficient evidence by itself to convict someone with sexual assault. No other evidence is required." Richard, she was obviously saying, making a reference without getting into Brett Kavanaugh, 36 years later, no corroboration contemporaneous. But she gets treated so differently than Michelle Obama in similar settings. Michelle Obama could say anything. It was like, oh, my God, the queen has spoken, which is fine. People were like, she's a great mom, she was a great first lady. A lot of people loved her. But she is just getting hammered for this type of statement. Do you think that is fair? GOODSTEIN: I think she represented the country beautifully in Africa. Honestly it brought tears to my eyes, the way that she was -- INGRAHAM: Yay. (APPLAUSE) GOODSTEIN: But -- INGRAHAM: OK, but. GOODSTEIN: -- if you are married to Donald Trump you would have to excuse away that kind of behavior because of the dozens of people who have come forward with accusations against him, many of whom are actually litigating him. So of course, if you married to him, of course you'd have to act like, well, it doesn't really count, because otherwise you'd leave him. INGRAHAM: I'm sure that's how Hillary would have reacted, given all the allegations? YORK: I think many Americans would just agree with the simple statement is, yes, you should listen to someone who is pressing an accusation, but there should be some evidence to support it, too. I think that's just self-evident. INGRAHAM: When people say, my truth needs to be heard, there is objective truth that sometimes we have to think about what is objective truth. Gentlemen, thank you so much. And coming up, this is what a CNN commentator said about Kanye West just last night. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's an attention whore like the president. He's all of a sudden now the model spokesperson, he's the token negro of the Trump administration? This is ridiculous. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Candace Owens will join us later in the show with her reaction to that. You don't want to miss it. But next, "Seen and Unseen" with Raymond Arroyo. We'll unveil the reality behind this moment from last week. Accident, or comedic gag? Stay there. INGRAHAM: It's now time for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we explore some of the big cultural stories the day. Now, in a moment we'll dive into a political American music awards. But first, last Friday's segment with Raymond Arroyo went viral, made international headlines. We call it fall-gate. It became a social media debate. Was it an accident or is it a comedy bit? For answers we're joined by Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor and "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series. Raymond, this is ridiculous. We are talking about ambulance chaser lawyers out there. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I'm glad I have this moment because I want people to know the reality and the truth. Tens of millions of people watched this viral video, they saw what happened. Those two gentlemen over there that you haven't met, that's Mr. Biddle and Mr. Billingsworth, those are my attorneys. You will meet them after the show. I'm going to show the audience the video of what happened last week. Now, I want you to keep your eye on Laura Ingraham's right hand, watch what happens. Roll the tape. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Smile. ARROYO: Do we have it? INGRAHAM: Go to the edge. Go to the edge. The ACLU used to care about the rights of accused. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: You threw me down in such a cruel fashion, heartless. INGRAHAM: My hand slipped a little bit. ARROYO: You pushed me with great vigor. I saw it. I'm going to slap you with -- God, this arm. INGRAHAM: What is the plaintiff's firm? What did they take, 40 percent? ARROYO: They're going to take 50 percent. Your kids will be paying my personal injury claim when I'm done. Everybody saw this, including James Corden who tweeted out "I can't stop watching this." Members of the audience, they saw it all, too. One said, oh, my God, are you OK? INGRAHAM ANGLE, someone let us know, please. Then another viewer "Oh, my God, I freaked out and laughed. I'm sorry, but it was funny. And at the same time I was going holy -- I hope it was fake." Now we can tell the truth, Laura. INGRAHAM: How long have you been cooking up this? (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: First of all, that brace, you bought that at like CVS an hour ago. And we are not expecting that, either. ARROYO: This was not fake, but it was staged. If people were watching the segment, we had the segment on, dangerous selfies. And these beer protests at the beginning. We were just entertaining. INGRAHAM: Here's the problem. People like, oh Laura, you are so cold. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: I was trying to stop myself from laughing. ARROYO: But you did see the video evidence. INGRAHAM: Are you OK? ARROYO: I'm getting better. The America Music Awards were on last night, Laura, but it isn't the music people are talking about today. After Taylor Swift's weekend Instagram where she announced her support for Democrats in Tennessee, the whole industry is now getting in on the act. This is Billy Eichner. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BILL EICHNER, COMEDIAN: Tonight is the final night to register in 20 states in this country. Please grab your friends and tell them to vote. If you believe in equality for women -- (APPLAUSE) EICHNER: That's right. For people of color, for the LGBTQ community. You can go to Vote.gov like Taylor Swift told you to. And go vote right now. (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Now they are all political pundits. Everybody has a political act to grind. INGRAHAM: I don't even know who that is. ARROYO: He's Billy on the street. INGRAHAM: I thought it was Billy Idol. It's like a little more interesting. ARROYO: No. INGRAHAM: That would have been cool. ARROYO: He's got a show in Vegas. We'll go see him. INGRAHAM: OK, good. ARROYO: But my problem is the conjoining of entertainment with politics, people don't tune into these music awards ceremonies for politics. Taylor Swift also had to jump in and she had to give her two cents when she received her award. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TAYLOR SWIFT, MUSICIAN: This award and every single award given out tonight were was voted on by the people. And you know what else was voted on by the people -- (APPLAUSE) SWIFT: -- is the midterm elections on November 6th. Get out a vote. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Taylor, shake it off, shake it off, shake it off. ARROYO: Again, she keeps beating the drum. INGRAHAM: If I hear that song one more time. OK, before we go, I think what you need, Raymond, is an emotional support animal to get through this difficult time. Apparently, a woman on Frontier Airlines got booted from the plane because she brought an emotional support -- ARROYO: Squirrel. I was sorry she didn't bring the tree along with the squirrel, but they threw her off the plane, threw everybody off the plane and brought the Orlando police in. They ended up delaying the thing by two hours. And Laura, because of the trauma I endured here last week, I did bring an animal emotional support animal. I don't know if you can see this. INGRAHAM: Rat. ARROYO: It is a rodent. INGRAHAM: It's a rat. ARROYO: I'm going to leave it for you. INGRAHAM: Thank you. Thank you. The problem with that is the acorns really gunk up the engines on the plane. ARROYO: Why would you bring rodent on a plane? I don't even like the dogs on the plane. INGRAHAM: I used to call the squirrels and gray-gray when I was little and give them little Ritz crackers and peanut butter, and they would come up to me when I was little. Gray-gray. ARROYO: I don't want to hear -- INGRAHAM: I'd rather sit next to a squirrel then some of the people I saw flying this past weekend with their underwear on. ARROYO: I will have my lawyers check in with you. INGRAHAM: We'll knock you off next time harder. Trump voters have been wanting this since he was elected. It's now being introduced in a new bill. Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy is here next on the border wall proposal that he has for us you do not want to miss. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Could this be the breakthrough Trump voters have been wanting? House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy introduced a bill earlier this week that would fund President Trump's wall on the southern border, but it's got to move fast. If this bill passes the House it would have to go through the Senate with 60 votes to avoid a filibuster before January. Could that possibly happen? The congressman joins us on that and his trip to the border today. All right, Congressman McCarthy, great to see you. If this were to pass the House, and that's a big if, how does the Senate have any stomach or the votes for this? REP. KEVIN MCCARTHY, (R) HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER: I don't think the question is if it will pass the House. The name of this bill is Build the Wall, Enforce the Law. So it fully funds the wall $25 billion, but it even does more. Kate's law, which we passed, is a part of this. Stop sanctuary cities. It keeps children safe because it removes the MS-13 gang members. And it denounces this movement like in San Francisco that allows illegals to vote in our election. But I watched what McConnell just said today. He said we're going to have a vigorous fight over the wall in December. And watching what this Senate was able to do with Kavanaugh, I believe this gives them the opportunity and the time to get this done once and for all. INGRAHAM: I keep thinking, given how great it was to have the party unified for the Supreme Court seat, if the party had been as unified in that first year of the Trump administration of this issue, which was one of his seminal issues on the campaign trail, half of that wall or maybe a quarter of that wall would have been built already. So it's frustrating to a lot of us who pushed that so hard, Congressman, and I applaud you for getting to this now. But we're frustrated. A story today, I think I just saw today in Arizona, you probably saw it, a detention facility there was so full of all these people still streaming across the border, can't separate families. It's so full, they just had to do a mass release. And that shouldn't be happening, not with this president. He doesn't want this stuff. MCCARTHY: No. And the battle when it came to Kavanaugh was the rule of law. It's one of the things that makes America the strongest. It breaks down our society. Our communities will not be safe if you can't secure your own borders. Think of the amount of fentanyl or the human trafficking that comes across, modern day slavery. INGRAHAM: They don't care. Congressman, they do not care. They care more about their liberal social construct being foisted on America, open borders, open markets, redefining gender fluidity, whatever, throw it into the mix, whatever it is, it's not about the kids or the rule of law. They don't care about that. It's about redefining America as a borderless place that no better than any other place on earth. That's what it's about. MCCARTHY: You are correct Laura, and that's what this election is about. This is the ability to build the wall and enforce the law, or have the border with no border whatsoever. With allowing what they've done in San Francisco today, allowing illegals to vote in our elections. Or when they want to eliminate ICE. I would wish every American would spend one day with the border patrol agent. I was down in El Paso. This was the first place of the border control began. They call it where the legend all began. If they spent one day with them, I don't think there would be any question about building this wall and keeping our community -- INGRAHAM: This is why we have you there, and this is why FOX News reports on these -- we had this horrible example of illegal immigrant crime, a woman raped in New York. No coverage of this for the most part in the mainstream media, zero. And again, they care about women, but we have a woman raped at the hands of an illegal alien and it's just like it never even happened. Congressman, I have got to get you to react to this ever-increasing, rapid, moblike atmosphere among a very strong, virulent strain of the Democrat Party. Maxine Water reacted to the mob question. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There are people who hear that and they think what you are calling for his physical intimidation, things that fray at the social fabric. REP. MAXINE WATERS, (D) CALIFORNIA: That is absolutely untrue. If they would like to take and redefine somehow protest and call it something else, they will try to do that. Yes, we are shouting out, we have signs, we are saying what we think. We'll get to the public, and we are not saying that we are going to kill anybody, we're going to hit anybody or we're going to cause anybody any harm. That's a lie in the way that they are trying to redefine protest. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Congressman, we are out of time, but she said get in their faces. What does that all mean? MCCARTHY: That means if they were to win the majority she would be the chair of financial services, one who asked people to actually cause problems to other individuals. It's the opposite of what we expect from our elected officials. That's why this November is so important to make a fundamental difference and not let the Democrats take over. INGRAHAM: Everyone has got to get out to vote. Thank you so much, Congressman. CNN spent last night leveling atrociously offensive phrases at Kanye West just because he supports President Trump. Candace Owens is up next. INGRAHAM: Imagine this flying anywhere else. Last night Don Lemon thought it was hilarious when guests on his show mocked Kanye West's intelligence ahead of the rapper's meeting with President Trump Thursday, tomorrow. And it was done in the most offensive way possible. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Kanye West is what happens when negros don't read, and we have this now, and now Donald Trump is going to use it and pervert it, and he's going to have somebody who can stand with him and take pictures. (LAUGHTER) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And he is an attention or like the president. He's all of a sudden the model spokesperson, he is the token negro of the Trump administration. This is ridiculous. No one should be taking Kanye West seriously. He clearly has issues. He's already been hospitalized. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me with reaction is Candace Owens, communications director for Turning Point USA. Candace, it really turns out that they cannot accept anyone who disagrees with them, who has any affinity for or any agreement with President Trump. Who is the intolerant one now, Candace? CANDACE OWENS, TURNING POINT USA: They are absolutely intolerant. But I'll say this, most especially, to add to your statement, most especially black people. The Democrats rely on our vote. If they secured 85 percent of our vote, they would lose. They need to achieve more than 85 percent of the black vote to sustain their party. So they have gone to great lengths to smear Kanye West. And what they said last night was not only racist, it was absolutely despicable. I cannot believe that it would be allowed on any network, least of all having a host of laughing as if it's funny. INGRAHAM: The entire panel kind of just went on with that. Imagine if a conservative host had a guest on that said something like that and laughed? There would be calls for boycotts. I got in trouble with poor old LeBron James, I was just teasing him. They were like, you can't say -- it's like you can't joke, but they can say the most horrific things possible, and you are shut down. What does this mean, though, for the Democratic Party? I think they are worried, are they not, Candace? You've broken through in your own way in politics. You just kind of come onto the scene with Turning Point USA. There are others coming forward saying, the demonization of Donald Trump and the Republicans, the economy is doing really well -- the market is down today, but this kind of thing happens. But stuff is going pretty well and these people seem really angry all the time. It kind of doesn't compute at some point. OWENS: The anger is masking their insecurity, they are terrified. They were not predicting this. They had no idea that there was any chance that conservatives might come after the cultural war. They won the cultural wore a long time ago. So for Kanye West to stand up and to say that I support Donald Trump, that terrifies them. So they are going to say whatever they can to smear him to make sure that no other black people wake up and understand that it has been the left that has harmed our community. It has been Democrat policies that have rendered our communities in the shape that they are in today when we talk about Chicago and Philadelphia, and all the major cities that they have run down. Black people are having a mass awakening, and Kanye West is a big part of the reason why. INGRAHAM: You've met with Kanye West, I guess you're going to meet him tomorrow before his lunch with President Trump. You guys struck up something of a friendship. What is it with him and Trump? Is it just they're pals? Is there a path towards criminal justice reform, prison reform, other work they might do to get kids out of gangs? What's the collaboration there? OWENS: I don't want to speak for him, but I will tell you my assessment of it after having several conversations with him. First and foremost, Kanye is very educated about the Democrat Party and the history of the Democrat Party. Beyond that, Kanye West really does believe in uniting both sides and going forward. We know the left, they want to make sure everybody is separate. They want to keep the themes of racism alive. They like fearmongering. Kanye West is not about any of those things. He really wants to see a world that is better than the world that we were in yesterday. He sees a unique opportunity in Donald Trump because he sees that our president is courageous. He's willing to say the things that need to be said. And we haven't had that, certainly for the last eight years while Barack Obama was in office. INGRAHAM: I think they are terrified of Kanye West. Like, he's crazy, he belongs in an insane asylum. They don't want to actually argue about the thing, which is the failures of the Democrat Party, Candace. All right, Candace, give us an update after your meeting tomorrow with Kanye. It's good to see that happening. OWENS: Thank you. INGRAHAM: And coming up, an inspiring who dat last bite that you will not want to miss. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. Amidst all the hyper political fights, we thought it best to end tonight on an uplifting note. Fresh off becoming the NFL's all-time leader in yards passing, Drew Brees shared this beautiful moment with his children. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How about that? How about that? I love you guys so much. I love you boys. I love you. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I'm trying to get over the Redskins lost. Right? But it doesn't mean I would cry. I'm crying over the Redskins lost. Now, that was really cute. What a moment. And that's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the FOX NEWS @ NIGHT team. Take it from here, Shannon. Load-Date: October 11, 2018 End of Document 28 Days Until Crucial Midterm Elections; Hillary Clinton: "You Cannot Be Civil"; Media Depressed After Kavanaugh Confirmation Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 9, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7328 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sebastian Gorka Guests: Dan Bongino Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: And welcome to "Hannity". Welcome to New York City, one of the highest tax states in the world. We have so much pretty news tonight. The president, he just wrapped up a raucous rally in Council Bluffs, Iowa, 28 days to go until the most important midterm election in our lifetime, that's four weeks from tonight. And the president is pounding campaign trail for Republicans all across the country. At this hour, the Senate, the House are very much up for grabs. It'll be up to you in 28 days. You have the power to decide the future at least the immediate future of this country. Now, coming up, we're going to break down tonight the single most critical races state-by-state, district-by-district with the successful confirmation now of Justice Kavanaugh, Republicans are picking up steam as we head towards the fish line. And meanwhile, sore loser Hillary Clinton is now inserting herself into the political fray yet again, she's calling literally for incivility, and we've got the tape. We also have the latest examples of the left's mob action, angry mob in action, including some traffic blocking demonstrations in Portland, Oregon. First, before we have all of this major breaking deep state news tonight, we will put all the pieces together. Rod Rosenstein is in hot water as are others and we can officially connect all these dots between the FISA abuse and the Clinton campaign and, of course, all the corruption before and after the election. All right. Sit tight, buckle up, we have a lot to get to in tonight's breaking news opening monologue. All right. So Democrats they turn the confirmation process into a circus. We watch this for three weeks. They vilified Judge Kavanaugh, tried to ruin his life. They turned an angry mob against him. They thought through all of this, the president might give up. But the president stood by his nominee and in doing so, he stood up for the core principle of our system of justice, due process, the Constitution, presumption of innocence, equal application of our laws and frankly simple common sense. Now, at tonight's huge rally in Iowa, the president congratulated the newest member of the United States Supreme Court, and so much more. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Yesterday at the White House, we proudly swore in the newest member of the United States Supreme Court, Justice Brett Kavanaugh. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) Today, Justice Kavanaugh took his seat alongside of Justice Gorsuch to defend your rights, your Constitution, and your God-given freedom. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) And I want to thank our incredible Republican senators for refusing to back down in the face of the Democrats' shameful campaign of political and personal destruction. (BOOS) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I don't think the crowd in Iowa is sick of winning. And on its first official day as a Supreme Court justice, Brett Kavanaugh, he hit the ground running. Now despite being described by the left as an enemy of all women, well, Justice Kavanaugh became the single first member of the Supreme Court to hire an all-female staff of law clerks. Now, the left has been completely exposed -- the double standard, the hypocrisy. And by the way, the mainstream media -- they're not exactly taking it well. It actually reminds me a little bit of election night two years ago. This -- the collective state of shock and by the way, you can shock the world in 28 days again. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The idea of holding a victory rally like this, for Justice Kavanaugh to say, the court should not be partisan institution but then stand there and thank mainly Republicans, Joe Manchin got a shout out for his own, it's just not something that's supposed to happen. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Remember his divisive language tonight at Justice Kavanaugh swearing in? Proof that this president is our divider in chief. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Time and again when the president gets a chance to heal the country, he does just the opposite. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My question to you is how you would sum up what you saw yesterday happening in the East Room at the White House. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was graceless. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, in a moment, we're going to show how Kavanaugh's impacting these all-important upcoming midterm elections. We'll also discuss the news surrounding the outgoing U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley. She announced her resignation earlier today and there are rumors tonight, the former deputy national security adviser, Dina Powell, may replace Haley. But, first, we do have some major breaking surrounding the deep state and, of course, Hillary Clinton's bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier. Let's go through this slowly. By now you know, this infamous dossier, bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign and the DNC, remember they funneled money through a law firm, the law firm's name was Perkins Coie. Well, that money was then used not for law but it was sent to an op research firm called Fusion GPS. They then hire a foreign national, a spy by the name of Christopher Steele. He dug up Russian dirt on Donald Trump, never corroborated. Even Steele himself said the contents in the dossier were unverified at best and, in fact, well in an interrogatory in Great Britain under threat of perjury, still refused to stand by the validity in his own dossier even at a conference rating of only 50/50. And last week, well, lost in the chaos of the Kavanaugh confirmation, we first learned that a lawyer working for the Clinton campaign and the DNC at Perkins Coie was actually funneling some of this anti-Trump, unverified Russian lies and propaganda to the top lawyer at the FBI, James Baker, in 2016. Now, this all came out, quote, as federal investigators prepared surveillance warrant for the Trump campaign and Carter Page. Remember, that was all based on the phony dossier. Now, Baker who you see there first revealed his exchange during a closed-door deposition with congressional investigators just last Wednesday. And, of course, this is exactly what we have now been telling you on this program and all along. We now have confirmation. So, you have a top lawyer for the Clinton campaign actively working with the top lawyer at the FBI to surveil a Trump campaign associate based on Hillary's phony bought paid for dossier. I've said from early on, it is the biggest abuse of power corruption scandal in American history. Now, tonight, it gets even worse. According to now separate reports, Catherine Herridge, Sara Carter, John Solomon, Rod Rosenstein was completely serious when he talked about surveilling President Trump, hoping that he might get information that they can then invoke the 25th Amendment to remove him from office. Now, Rosenstein's remarks were not just said in jest, as he's now saying or even sarcastically. Now, this reportedly was revealed in last week's deposition of James Baker before Congress, in other words, the top lawyer of the FBI. Now, that seemingly confirms the September report from "The New York Times" where they revealed that Rod Rosenstein, he had an alleged plot to surveil his boss, President Trump, in early 2017. By the way, before they -- we ever had or heard of the special counsel or Robert Mueller. Now, remember, it's the deputy FBI director McCabe now under criminal investigation. His attorney Lisa Page, they are saying they both witnessed and chronicled Rod Rosenstein talking about wearing a wire against the president. Now, this is beyond troubling. Well, of course, we know all of Rod Rosenstein's other conflicts, he recommended firing Comey. He's signed the final FISA warrant. You know, he's caught up in every aspect of this, but we have one more piece of what is a very disturbing puzzle. It's now perfectly clear that members of our bureaucracy were actively trying to destroy both candidate and then later President Trump and what was a coordinated effort with an opposing political campaign and what they called, remember we reported a few weeks ago, their media leaked strategy. Now, all of this means Hillary's bought and paid for phony Russian dossier that was never verified, never corroborated used to get FISA warrants, all of these lies basically disseminated to you the American people to influence you before the election and used to commit a fraud on FISA court judges to get a warrant on a Trump campaign associate. And after all that failed, Donald Trump wins, then the contents of the unverified phony Russian dossier that Hillary paid for -- remember, they leaked it to the media outlets. Why? So all the phony news -- well, that would create an atmosphere where by people could begin to call for a special counsel to be appointed just like James Comey was leaking to his professor friend at Columbia. Now, this is plain, simple, fundamental, basic abuse of power, corruption at the highest levels of the DOJ and the FBI. It shreds our Constitution, our Fourth Amendment protections when they use a fraud on a FISA court. Now, we have a lot to get to regarding this. Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, John Solomon, Catherine Herridge all here on this developing story. But our real top story tonight -- four weeks from tonight, in 28 days, you the America people, we the people will decide the fate of your government. Now, America's biggest sore loser, Hillary Clinton, is now throwing yourself back into the political fray. Apparently, she's going to make a lot of money doing so, once again demonizing conservatives. Remember, we're all irredeemable, deplorable, smelly Walmart people, we cling to God, our guns, our bibles, our religion. Oh, here's what she said. This is the latest. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. That's why I leave if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and/or the Senate, that's when civility can start again. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh, but in the meantime, no civility, calling for incivility. We have angry mobs of left-wing protesters in Portland, Oregon, recently blocking traffic attacking commuters. Meanwhile, Portland's little mayor did zero to stop this. Take a look. (VIDEO CLIP PLAYS) HANNITY: Pretty despicable. What you're seeing here, though, sadly is nothing new. We saw similar response from far left anti-Kavanaugh protesters. We saw Republican politicians confronted all over the country run out of restaurants. Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen, Sarah Sanders, Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, literally they're telling -- they're being told to get in people's faces and grocery stores and gas stations, and it's happening over and over and over again. Now, this when you look at it, accompany by a systematic effort for elected Democrats to destroy the life and character of Judge Brett Kavanaugh based on zero corroboration from nearly four decades ago, no due process, no presumption of innocence, no common sense. This is why in 28 days, you'll have a choice of electing the party of smears and slander and lies, character assassination, besmirchment, the party of bludgeoning people. And as we speak, they are deploying this playbook all over the country. I warned you, we see it every two years, in every four years, in every election. Any Republican running for office is a racist, a sexist, a misogynist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic that wants dirty air, water, wants to kill children and throw granny over the cliff. And sadly, nearly all voices of reason in the Democratic Party, they even ran out of their party Joe Lieberman, one of the nicest guys in the world. All moderation is gone, all moderates are gone. This is now a hardcore, far-left radical extreme leftist political party. But don't take my word for it. Just listen to the DNC chair. His name is Tom Perez. By the way, right below him is the guy he's defending by the name of Keith Ellison. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TOM PEREZ, DNC CHAIRMAN: And when you see the union movement attacked by Republicans day in the day out. When we see that there are no guardrails in Washington, I mean, we know that for sure. There are no moderate Democrats basically left -- moderate Republicans left in the United States. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Careful. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He got it perfectly right. No moderate Democrats. Look, I'm going to be very honest. I don't have a crystal ball. I can't predict what news you will hear four weeks from tonight. Frankly, I'm concerned for the sake of the country. I don't want the great progress we've been chronicling here on this program to end. I like a security America on a world stage once again leading the way, not leading from behind. I like that we're not trying to bribe dictators that chant "death to America". I'm confident and happy that little rocket man's not firing rockets over Japan every other day. I'm not confident tonight, I can't tell you that Republicans will hold the House or the Senate, or pick up seats in the Senate. Now, recently, our friend FOX News contributor, former Congressman Jason Chaffetz, talked about pretty horrible nightmare scenario for the country. Now, imagine waking up one week from tomorrow on November 7th, the day after election day, and seeing the soon-to-be Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi measuring drapes for a brand new office, imagine Chairwoman Maxine Waters head of the Judiciary Committee, imagine a liar in chief, the chairman Shifty Schiff taking control of the Intel Committee, a guy that got scammed by a Russian hoaxster himself. Imagine the endless, never-ending investigations into Trump, Kavanaugh, the quest, the thirst they have for impeachment and the obstruction of all the progress we have had and the president's successful agenda. By the way, kiss border wall funding goodbye, prepare to fork over your hard-earned money because they want their crumbs back and they're coming for them. By the way, you like skyrocketing health care costs and premiums, Obamacare, they want to keep it, how is that promise working out for you, keep you doctor, keep your plan, save money. Is this what you want? That's the question you will be deciding four weeks from tonight. Now, starting tonight, we're going to preview each key House race that's going to decide the fate of our government going forward while highlight ten important races a night. We start on the West Coast tonight. Multiple House races row up for grabs. Look there, if you're in the California 10th congressional district, listen up. We're talking to you. Republican incumbent Congressman Jeff Denham, he's in a tight real action bid where water acts as a top issue on the ballot. California's 21st district, a Republican incumbent named David Valadao, well, he's doing well in the race against the Democrat T.J. Cox, in a district where Hispanic Americans make up 74 percent of that district. California 25, another Republican incumbent named Steve Knight in a very tough key race against the Democratic challenger Katie Hill. In California's 39th district, Republican Young Kim, and Democrat Gil Cisneros, they're facing off in a battle for an open seat that was vacated by Congressman Ed Royce. The Democrat is currently suffering in the polls perhaps due to allegations -- well, believe it or not sexual misconduct. In California 45, Republican incumbent Mimi Waters is running for re- election against Democrat Katie Porter. In California's 48 district, friend of mine, friend of this program, incumbent Dana Rohrabacher facing a Democratic challenge from Harley Rouda. And with retirement of Congressman Darrell Issa, California's 49th district, that's a hotly contested race between Republican Diane Harkey and Democrat Mark Levin. In California 50, Republican incumbent Duncan Hunter, he's up in an all- important race in the San Diego area. Next up, you go to Arizona, their first congressional district. Democratic incumbent named Tom O'Halleran is up for re-election again Republican challenger, that would be Wendy Rogers in the district that President Trump only carried by one point. And finally tonight, we have our Arizona 2, vacated by Martha McSally, a hero who fought for this country who's running for Senate in a very tight race there for the Senate. The Republican in that case Lea Marquez Peterson is running against Democrat Ann Kirkpatrick. So, we will point out ten key races the night, so you know if it's your district that matters. These districts will decide the balance of power four weeks from tonight. And, of course, the U.S. Senate, that's up for grabs maybe another Supreme Court nomination or two in the future. Now, he got money from big-time Democratic billionaires piling in all over the country. Let's start in Indiana. Incumbent Democrat Joe Donnelly and a tight race against Mike Braun. That's a state President Trump won. Braun is running a great campaign. Donnelly as you know voted against Judge Kavanaugh. He's a Schumer Democrat. Missouri, another Schumer incumbent Democrat, Claire McCaskill, she's now losing ground in the polls against Josh Hawley, who's running a great race after she opposed Judge Kavanaugh. North Dakota, another Schumer suck-up, Democrat Senator Heidi Heitkamp, way down the polls against Kevin Cramer. He's running a great campaign. Obviously, in Texas, Ted Cruz a constitutional conservative, thankfully, he's consistently pulling ahead. That's an important race. In Tennessee, Republican friend of this program, Marsha Blackburn, she's also picking up after the president's visit, after the vote with Judge Kavanaugh, momentum in the polls there, an extremely important state. In Montana, Democratic incumbent Chuck Schumer BFF Jon Tester, tight race against Matt Rosendale, a real chance for a pickup in Montana this year. Arizona, a very, very, very tight race is an American hero who served her country, Martha McSally. I hope the people of Arizona will put her in the U.S. Senate. Now, that brings us to West Virginia and Democrat Joe Manchin, the only Democrat to vote to confirm Justice Kavanaugh. I have an idea, maybe he should switch parties and caucus with the Republicans. He definitely win reelection. Otherwise, that race may be in doubt. Joe, just saying. Each night on this program, we will bring you an update on what is the single most important midterm election in our lifetime, 28 days. At the end of the day, we the people you, the American people, have the power to decide, are we going to reward the disgusting, despicable smear tactics of the left, you'll decide if the angry mob gets their way, you'll decide whether or not Nancy Pelosi is the next speaker of the house. With a booming historic economy, security at home and abroad, the choice tonight could not be any more clear, four weeks from tonight. You'll tune into the news. You have the ability and the power to shock the world again. When we come back, we have reaction to our monologue, plus all the other breaking news on the deep state. Dan Bongino, Sebastian Gorka, as we continue, we're glad you're always with us tonight on "Hannity". HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with reaction to our opening monologue, all the important news of the day. See this book right here? This is an important book, four weeks from tonight, why we fight. He's talking about on foreign policy but it also represents domestic policies, defeating America's enemies. No apologies, FOX News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka, the author of the new book, "Spygate: The Attempted Sabotage of Donald J. Trump", also a soon-to-be bestseller, our friend, former Secret Service agent, NRA TV contributor Dan Bongino. Both books, by the way, out today and now competing like Judge Jeanine and Gregg Jarrett. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: Right. HANNITY: Both must-reads, I've read both of them. They're phenomenal books. Thank you both for being with us. GORKA: Thank you, Sean. HANNITY: Twenty-eight days. One the things you're talking about in this book, Dr. Gorka is the need to fight. I made this case in a book I wrote in 2004, "Deliver Us From Evil: Defeating Terrorism, Despotism and Liberalism". What I meant by that and I took a lot of heat at the time was if you don't have the political power, you can't impact change. Four weeks matters. GORKA: Right, and you can't protect the things that you love. This is the important thing. The left has a plan to destroy all the institutions we love, whether it's the media, where it's education. They've been doing it for 40 years now. Look at the colleges, I'll give you a metric. The Victims of Communism Foundation did a poll, 42 percent of millennials, 42 percent, wish that America were a socialist country. HANNITY: It's frightening. GORKA: Twenty-five percent can't tell you why Auschwitz is important. It's shocking. HANNITY: Look, I got to give a little credence to what Winston Churchill infamously said, if you're 20 and not a liberal, you don't have a heart. GORKA: Yes. HANNITY: If you're 40 and not (ph) a liberal, you don't have a brain. GORKA: Not have a brain. HANNITY: Dan Bongino, we're going to get into the deep state story tonight, but everything that we have witnessed for the last two years culminating in the last three weeks with Judge Kavanaugh has been smear, slander, attack, belittle, legitimize Donald Trump. This election is about keeping what is now chronicled a hugely successful agenda moving forward. I don't have a crystal ball. I can't tell people tonight that Nancy Pelosi's not going to win. All the people talking about a blue wave, I don't trust them. The American people can shock the world again, but I don't know. What do you think? DAN BONGINO, NRATV CONTRIBUTOR: Sean, you know, I don't think it's hyperbole to say that the Kavanaugh victory may have changed everything for the Republicans. Let me just give you a quick example and put some meat on the bone there. Trump and the Kavanaugh victory finally broke the iron triangle, right? That's Fred Segal's old line. The iron triangle, what's the iron triangle? The media, activist groups and swamp rats, right? Hill Democrat liberal swamp rats. They have owned the Republican Party forever. What were the old rules, right? The media, in conjunction with the activist groups, would lob a grenade on the battlefield, the political grenade. In this case, calling the guy a rapist, the horrible thing. The Republican would run this Kavanaugh -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: -- drugged, lined up boys in the halls -- BONGINO: Right. HANNITY: -- to gang rape women. That, I mean, among the allegations. BONGINO: But, Sean, this didn't happen. This time, it didn't happen. Trump refused to back down. Kavanaugh refused to back down. They coalesced with McConnell up there up on the Hill and shockingly, we won. There's a model to win going forward. There's a new sheriff the town. HANNITY: Well, there are opportunities in North Dakota, in Indiana and Missouri and Florida and other places, that are the important races in Nevada and Arizona. They can pick up seats here, Dr. Gorka. There is -- there is hope. GORKA: They can, but only if they understand what changed. Dan is absolutely right. The political landscape has changed. Remember that press conference on Friday, with the leading Republican senators. I have never seen senior senators that angry in my lifetime in America. They were fed up -- the GOP has woken up. Now, the question is, can they connect those races to the president? This is a vote about the president in the last two years. HANNITY: One of the reasons there's so much uncertainty, you got all of these retirements to contend with. I mentioned -- I talked about Darrell Issa out in California. These are new names on the ballot for people. That's why we're trying to highlight it on the program so people, the American people will be informed when they walk into the ballot. GORKA: And everybody has to understand, every single vote counts. The idea that I'm summer wait doesn't count, look at what changed in 2016, places that we thought Trump had not chance of winning and he won. So, don't be complacent. HANNITY: The attempted sabotage of Trump, as I read your book, Dan, it really has been, this has been an effort before the election and during the transition and the entire time he's been president to undermine him and stop him. In spite of all of that, we have record unemployment in 14 states, record low unemployment for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans, Asian- Americans, and women in the work force and youth unemployment. DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: Yes. HANNITY: We have more regulations destroyed. He is already building the border wall with the $3.5-billion he does have. He seems to be the president that believes in keeping promises as quickly as he can. BONGINO: Yes. I'm smiling because winning feels good, doesn't it? I mean, it feels good to win. HANNITY: I'm not sick of winning. BONGINO: Yes, I'm not sick of it either, still not sick of winning. But that's what we cover in the book. That despite all of this, Sean, we break this whole spy gate thing down very simply. And what we do is we use leftist footnotes from like CNN and the Washington Post to show-- HANNITY: It's hilarious. BONGINO: -- how was an information laundering scandal a spying operation and a set up the whole time. You cannot come to any other conclusion when you're dominant. HANNITY: So when buy Dan's book, you buy Dr. Gorka's book. Now we'll see who wins. BONGINO: Buy them both. HANNITY: Jeanine and Gregg Jarrett both made number one in the New York Times list, so we expect you guys -- that's a tall order to duplicate. Thank you both. BONGINO: Thank you. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Speaking of the deep state news, speaking of undermining the president, what we have now discovered today will blow your mind. Catherine Herridge, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, and John Solomon they will break it all down and make it understandable. Some news you won't get anywhere else. We're glad you're with us. We'll continue. HANNITY: All right. Joining us with live breaking news from Washington on the latest ongoing Rosenstein saga. A lot of news has been breaking in the last 24 hours. Fox News chief intelligence correspondent, our own Catherine Herridge has been all over it today. Catherine? CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CHIEF INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: Sean, Baker's testimony matters because he had a pivotal role at the bureau as the top FBI lawyer. He had the ear of then director James Comey. And his testimony is at odds with Rosenstein's denials. Last week he told Fox News that he couldn't get into it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. Baker, did you handle the dossier? Did you warn Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein that was exculpatory information before he signed the FISA -- final surveillance warrant? Mr. Baker, will you take our questions? (END VIDEO CLIP) HERRIDGE: Now since sources described Baker's testimony as forthcoming, deliberate, and sober. Baker telling congressional investigators that he believe then acting FBI director Andrew McCabe and then FBI lawyer Lisa Page when they said Rosenstein's talk about recording the president and removing him from office was, quote, "serious." Baker who is neither at the Justice Department said Page and McCabe came to him immediately after. And base on what he learned Baker told investigators he believes Rosenstein was working with two people inside the administration after President Trump fired FBI director James Comey to invoke the 25th Amendment. Ask about Baker's closed-door interview with Justice Department spokesperson said they stood by their denials including this one from Rosenstein. "I never pursued or authorize recording the president and any suggestion that I have ever advocated for the removal of the president is absolutely false." Rosenstein in expected on Capitol Hill Thursday but our sources report tonight that there is a lot of internal tension among committee members about the format with some lawmakers pushing for a transcribe interview with the court reporter. And other satisfied by a briefing, but these briefings can often be the subject of misintepretation, Sean. HANNITY: Unbelievable reporting. Catherine Herridge, thank you from Washington tonight. Joining us now with more reaction, author of the number one New York Times bestseller, "The Russia Hoax," Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, also Fox News investigative reporter and contributor Sara Carter, and from The Hill, John Solomon. Sara and John, I'll start with you in the reporting. And Gregg has a column coming out tomorrow that he shared with. What both of you and Catherine have all reported today, is that you have McCabe and you have Lisa Page, all saying that when Rod Rosenstein -- Sara, we'll start with you, said that he wanted to surreptitiously record the president of the United States and this would be a plot, a revenge, if you will, against the firing of James Comey which he recommended, which is ironic. They ever saying it's real. Rosenstein is saying it's not real. I was only saying it sarcastically. Well, you got two against one but you had two people that are in the deep state. Who do you believe? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, this is why we've got to come to the truth. Somebody is lying here. But, look, Sean. We have the former general counsel for the FBI James Baker. This is so important. Because James Baker delivered this testimony deliberately without any emotion. He absolutely 100 percent believed Andrew McCabe and Lisa Page. I think even more shocking is that there are two other people within the administration apparently, who were on board with Rod Rosenstein and trying to invoke the 25th Amendment, you know, saying that the president was unfit for office. So there is something happening within the administration. And Rod Rosenstein has those answers. Thursday is going to be very telling. Will he show up, will he answer all of these questions. And who is actually investigating the investigators? I keep saying this over and over again, Sean. If Rod Rosenstein is in charge of the special counsel, the Mueller investigation, who is in charge of Rod Rosenstein? He is in the middle of all of this. He signed the FISA, the final FISA warrant on Carter Page. He actually wrote the letter to basically, you know, to give the president so that Comey would be fired. He laid it all out. This guy is in the middle of everything and somebody needs to find out the truth. Because he is still, you know, the deputy attorney general of the United States. HANNITY: John Solomon -- and by the way, the answer to Sara's question who's investigating the investigators, all of us have been to from the beginning started with both you to be honest, led to Gregg's number one New York Times bestseller. But this sounds like a soft coup - revenge taken out on the president. You have two people that both recorded the very same thing here, John-- JOHN SOLOMON, VICE PRESIDENT, THE HILL: Yes. HANNITY: -- about what Rod Rosenstein said at the time. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: That's McCabe but he's under criminal investigation. And Page friends with Strzok, that things, you know, Hillary should win a 100 million to zero. SOLOMON: Yes. Listen, just a short while ago, Sean, as I was coming to the show I bump in ironically to an old FBI friend of mine. And here's what he said. After reading your articles in the last couple of weeks I'm starting to think the FBI needs to rebrand itself. Instead of Federal Bureau of Investigation maybe we should call ourselves the federal bureau of politics because somewhere there was a lot more politics going on than investigating. Think about-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But John, I really need to say this. This is only the top echelon. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: This is not the rank and file. SOLOMON: That's right. HANNITY: This is not the guy you ran into. SOLOMON: That's right. No, they are embarrassed by this. Because they do their job every day. They go do -- listen. In the middle of Russia, you have one team doing the hacking investigation professional intelligence work, the other team doing collusion, a total disaster. But let's think about James Baker for just a second. Four things he revealed. He used the Democratic Party's lawyer as a source. The FBI tried to hide that by redacting it then claiming it was national security information and a House intelligence report. He used a journalist as a source, David Corn to get a version of the dossier after Steele was fired, and he was present for a conversation where at least the FBI people were serious about removing the president and recording him on the 25th Amendment. All four of those things are politics. None of them involve legitimate investigation. HANNITY: And every piece of this goes back to Hillary who they exonerated without investigating and saved because it was a slam dunk obstruction case. It all comes back to her. Phony Russian paid for dossier. Before the election they lied to the American people. After the election, they used it to bludgeon Donald Trump and use a media leaked strategy to help set up an atmosphere where a special counsel could be appointed. And still even Lisa Page said, nine months, zero evidence by the time we got to May of 2017. Gregg, you have a column coming out tomorrow. I want to read the first paragraph to our audience here. When you talk how was it possible Rod Rosenstein is still in charge of those special counsel investigation and Trump Russia collusion, again, no evidence. Then you say Trump may have given them a pass - referring to the meeting at the Air Force One yesterday - for now. But Americans should not and neither should the Attorney General Jeff Sessions who seems perpetually missing in action and clueless, which I sadly can't disagree with and I always like him. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Rosenstein is hopelessly compromised. He not only has disqualifying conflicts of interest because he is a key pivotal witness in the case over which he presides! And you can't be a judge and the jury and a witness and the prosecutor all rolled into one. It's a violation of federal regulations. It demands his removal and recusal at 28-USC-528. But on top of it, now there is this new evidence and three witnesses that in an act of vengeance for the firing of Comey he is trying to secretly record the president of the United States and depose him in the equivalent of a palace coup. I mean, this is egregious misconduct, it requires his termination at the very least, the removal from the special counsel case. HANNITY: And he still led the declassification. JARRETT: Sure. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And the unredacted FISA and the 302's and-- (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: He is suppressing wrongdoing by the FBI and the Department of Justice and suppressing his own wrongdoing in signing off on the FISA warrant. HANNITY: Sara and John, do you agree with the characterization? Because I agree with Gregg. I believe this was an attempt to literally set a president up for a soft coup. CARTER: One hundred percent, Sean. There is overwhelming evidence. Not just circumstantial anymore. We've seen it in writing, we've seen it with testimony that's been provided to Congress. This was a white coup, a silent coup. A bloodless coup. I think what's so concerning to me is how dangerous this has been to America and how dangerous this still is to the administration and it needs to be investigated. HANNITY: Yes. John? CARTER: It has to be the special counsel or someone else. HANNITY: John? SOLOMON: Yes. Listen, the single biggest threat Rod Rosenstein faces isn't the plot that he didn't carry out to remove Trump. It's the misleading of the FISA court. Catherine Herridge ask them the right question. Someone has to answer that question. Did he mislead the FISA court? If it's yes, he doesn't belong there. HANNITY: Who do you believe here? Do you believe McCabe and Page, do we believe Rod Rosenstein? JARRETT: I'll never believe Rod Rosenstein. He has a long and distinguished track record on deception. HANNITY: John? SOLOMON: Listen, I think you got to wait until all of the facts come out. We haven't heard from Rod Rosenstein himself. It's one thing for a spokesperson to put out a statement. He's got to put his word on it and then we have to hear what he has to say about it. HANNITY: And Sara? CARTER: I don't believe any of them, Sean. HANNITY: Wow. CARTER: And I think it needs to be investigated. HANNITY: Sad. Biggest abuse of power in our history. We will get to the bottom of it. We're going to stay on it. Anyway, thank you all. When we come back, you won't believe what Hillary Clinton said about Bill Clinton's infidelities. Jedediah Bila, Monica Crowley, next. Also, Kristin Fisher in Washington tonight with some breaking news. That's straight with us. Stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with the very latest update on Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee's former staff who put Republican's personal information online, Fox News correspondent in Washington tonight, Kristin Fisher. Kristin? KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Sean. Yes, things are not looking good for this former staffer to a Democratic congresswoman. Today he was denied bail. The judge and prosecutors showed that no conditions could ensure the community's safety if the suspect was released. Now his name is Jackson Cosko. He is 27 years old and he is accused of committing several felonies. He is accused of releasing a Republican senator's personal information online during the September 27th judiciary committee hearing about sexual assault allegations against then Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. He is also accused of threatening a witness, unlawfully accessing a government computer, burglary of a senatorial office, and he is accused of doing all of this while working as a staffer for a Democratic Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee. He was arrested six days ago after a staffer caught him working on a computer where he was not authorized to be. According to a capitol police officers after David Cosko threatened the staffer and then he threatened to leak information about the health of senator's children and their social security numbers. So, Sean, he is facing some very serious accusations. But today he pleaded not guilty on all counts. Sean? HANNITY: All right. Kristin Fisher in Washington, thank you. Also tonight, Hillary Clinton sat down with fake news CNN and openly called for incivility towards Republicans. We played that during our monologue. Here with reaction, you see this brand new book, by the way, just out. It's literally "Do Not Disturb: How I Ghosted My Cell Phone to Take My Life Back," our old friend went to The View. Thank God you're back. I don't know how you survive. JEDEDIAH BILA, AUTHOR, DO NOT DISTURB: I'm back. I survived. HANNITY: How did you survive that? And also, Jedediah Bila, and conservative columnist and senior fellow of London Center for Policy Research, Monica Crowley. What does it mean you ghosted your cell phone? BILA: So this is if you love personal responsibility, this is the book for you. I had a tech addition. I went from being a normal person who was talking to people having conversation to someone who was buried in my phone all day. The technology and our addiction to it it's ruining the moral fibers of relationships in this country. HANNITY: True. BILA: Kids don't know how to communicate with each other anymore. There are so many skill sets they're losing. HANNITY: It's really scary. BILA: And a lot of people say, Sean, regulate the problem away. This was my way of saying no. Own your own life. We are self-empowered. This is a responsibility book of how you can take technology in 2018 and make it your own to make it healthy for you. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You should be proud me. I'm -- I gave up Twitter. My phone-- MONICA CROWLEY, SENIOR FELLOW, LONDON CENTER FOR POLICY RESEARCH: You told me that. HANNITY: -- does not have twitter. CROWLEY: You told me that. BILA: You ghosted your phone. That's what you do. HANNITY: Ghosted? BILA: You did. You ghosted. HANNITY: I mean, well, to be honest I had so many people trying to hack into me every day. I have to change every other day. BILA: Then go. HANNITY: Yes. That's actually would you ever do that? CROWLEY: Completely give it up? HANNITY: No. CROWLEY: Well, not completely give it up-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's like (Inaudible). CROWLEY: I agree that it is really it's an addiction. BILA: It is. CROWLEY: It's like heroin or sugar. I mean, you cannot, it's like (Inaudible) response. Especially but kids now it's actually rewiring-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. Let me ask you this question. I don't have a crystal ball four weeks from tonight. You have been saying for the longest time do you think Republicans hold the House and pick up seats in the Senate? I hope you are right. I think it's -- anything is possible right now and the energy level is high. CROWLEY: Yes. And the whole Kavanaugh scenario really scrambled the political calculus for both sides. The complacency problem that the Republicans had is now solved, thanks to the Democrats, and their despicable treatment of Brett Kavanaugh. We have a new Supreme Court justice. But it has scrambled the calculus here. I've been saying for months that I was totally against conventional wisdom, still is, but I think that the Republicans will hold the House narrowly but will hold and we will pick up seats in the Senate. HANNITY: I hope you're right. CROWLEY: And it will stun everybody the way the 2016 result did. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It would be -- it was hard to just to see Joe Scarborough and Mika's face. It will be worth just for that reason alone. I don't know what's going to happen. CROWLEY: Yes. HANNITY: But, the Democrats should not be rewarded for how they act every two and four years and what they just did. BILA: The Kavanaugh stuff was incredible. Because I talked to so many people who aren't that political that were so outraged by the behavior that the Democrats exhibited toward him, that say home and said, wait a minute, what happened to the presumption of innocence? Wait a minute, what happened to our justice system that these people are willing to throw this guy under the bus without you have any corroboration before you have any evidence. So I think that's the key. You know, you need those people at home who aren't typically inspired politically to get out. HANNITY: Do you agree with Monica's assessment on the outcome? BILA: I think it could happen. I don't know. I truthfully don't know. HANNITY: I don't know either. BILA: I think it's very plausible. I don't know, and it depends on how many people at home are fired up and how the Democrats are behaving. Calling for inciting violence sometimes. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You got to look into it and how they treat-- CROWLEY: I think the American people we are still a central right country. And these kinds of antics outrage especially the middle of the country. And they will come out. (CROSSTALK) BILA: That's 100 percent true. HANNITY: By the way, ghost your cell phone. Good to see you both. All right. We have more highlights from the president's rally earlier in Iowa. That's straight ahead. HANNITY: So in his rally earlier tonight the president reminded the Americans that were there why they must vote for Republicans four weeks from tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Vote for Republicans. You are doing the right thing. Because a vote for us is a vote for lower taxes, less regulation, and more products that are made right here in the USA. That's what we are doing. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: It's a vote to respect our borders, respect our Constitution, and respect the heroes of law enforcement. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. That's unfortunately all the time we have left. We'll be fair and balanced four weeks from tonight. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is next in Washington. Laura? Load-Date: October 10, 2018 End of Document Democrats and their double standards, chaos, resistance on post- Kavanaugh; Calls for civility being rejected by Hillary Clinton unless they control one or both Houses Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 9, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7676 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Joe diGenova, Scott Bolden, Brooks Goldstein, Anushay Hossain Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: -- and respect the heroes of law enforcement. (END VIDEO CLIP) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, that's unfortunately all the time we have left. We will be fair and balanced, three weeks from tonight. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is next in Washington. Laura. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hi, Hannity. Fantastic show, and you feel the glow, the post-Kavanaugg glow. I feel it. Still a little warm in D.C. Feeling good. HANNITY: Four weeks from tonight, Laura. I hope America gets out to vote. INGRAHAM: Yes, well, they have the big guns pushing their voter registration, Hannity. I'm going to talk about that tonight. They have the Hollywood crowd out there tonight at the American Music Awards -- HANNITY: Vote like GOP. I think that's where people will register. They have two hours in some states. Take a look. Two hours from now. INGRAHAM: Yes, you tweeted it, I tweeted it. People can still register in all 50 states. Go to Sean's twitter feed or mine. Now I'm promoting your twitter feed for a good cause Hannity. HANNITY: I don't tweet that much anymore. This is a full-time job. Who has time to fight with, you know, humpty dumpty and these idiots? INGRAHAM: No, no, no. The basement dwellers. No, we don't have time for that. Hannity, great show as always. HANNITY: Have a great night. INGRAHAM: All right, welcome to "The Ingraham Angle." I'm Laura Ingraham in Washington. As we find ourselves as Sean said, just four weeks out from that all important midterm election, and remember, Justice Brett Kavanaugh's first day on the bench and the left is already claiming he is an illegitimate steward for the court. Andy McCarthy has a reaction. Also, Reince Preiebus is here. He is going to explain how the Kavanaugh confirmation fight and Nikki Haley's parting words shows that the GOP establishment is coming home to Trump. Plus, in the wake of the Kavanaugh smears, a shocking Title IX ruling on a California campus reveals a disturbing double standard inside the post- MeToo or the pre-MeToo Movement. But first, Hillary and the Democratic haters. That's the focus of tonight's"Angle." Today, Justice Brett Kavanaugh heard his first oral arguments at the Supreme Court and was welcomed warmly by his colleagues. It was a nice moment of collegiality after weeks of chaos and a promise of even more. With only four weeks until the midterm elections, Republicans are exuding more confidence while Democrats are banking on more chaos. Now, despite the catastrophic loss of the swing vote on the high court, they are hitting the anarchy accelerator. These people truly believe they can protest their way back into power. Something the president warned of tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: The Democrats have become too extreme. And they've become frankly too dangerous to govern. They have gone whacko. But if Democrats take control, they will try to reverse our amazing progress and plunge our country into gridlock, frankly into poverty, ultimately into chaos. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, the chaos strain has now even infected what was once the Democratic establishment. Like, why hasn't Dianne Feinstein, who was once considered a more sober minded liberal, why hasn't she condemned the tactics of harassment and intimidation used against her female colleagues in the halls of the U.S. Senate? Do you know why? Because pro-woman Dianne Feinstein wants to keep the atmosphere red-hot, scarily so to drive Democratic voter turnout. So just when you think they couldn't go lower? They do. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Trump has delivered for these people on the things that they care about most. He has delivered racism for these people. He has delivered misogyny for these people and now he has delivered the Supreme Court for these people, which is something that they've been trying to get for a generation. They now have control over all three branches of government. We're going to see if this rein last for 30 days, or two years or a thousand year reich. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Reich? Nice. So, if you are not on board with the moral dictates of liberalism, the left will demonize you as Nazi, plant false stories against you, trash your family, try to destroy your life. And of course, they'll try to get you fired. And when you are President Trump or Justice Kavanaugh -- I love saying that. If they can't beat you, they'll threaten to impeach you. Here's the original founding member of the Clinton warm room, James Carville. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMES CARVILLE, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: To the Democrats, Kavanaugh is worth a lot more alive than dead. This is not going to go away. They are not going to stop doing stories on Kavanaugh. If the Democrats win the Housee, they'll probably hold some kind of hearings on the fact that a lot of people think that he perjured himself during his confirmation hearings to the Court of Appeals. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Dead or alive? I like him better, by the way, when he put that garbage pail over his head back in 2002. Do you remember that after the loss in 2002? That was Carville's best. Now, how is any of this going to make America's lives better? What is the new platform? Vote for us and we'll spend the next few years torturing anyone who is even remotely associated with Trump? Oh please. This thuggish win at all cost approach was on full display during the Kavanaugh battle. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Senator McConnell, why do women have to bear their whole soul to you? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't you wave your hand at me! I wave my hand at you! SEN. ORRIN HATCH (R), UTAH: When you grow up, I'll be glad to talk. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I grow up? How dare you talk to women that way! How dare you? UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: We believe survivors! We believe survivors! We believe survivors! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: and it's fitting, isn't it, that the woman who was one of the architects of the politics of personal destruction, along with Carville, has no problem with any of that. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. That's why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and/or the Senate, that's when civility can start again. But until then, the only thing that the Republicans seem to recognize and respect is strength. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: This is so juvenile. It's like your kid, right, "Well, I'll start behaving, mommy, once I get the extra piece of candy." OK. So unless the Democrats are in power, there can be no civility. Yet they are the agents of mayhem that we've endured for two years now. This is what they've been doing since election night! Hillary would rather see the country swallowed up by discord and anger than to admit that Trump policies are actually bearing fruit. My friends, this is all about foisting a liberal construct on America. The tonality and the set of precepts basically about open borders, open markets and may be toss in gender fluidity for good measure. All of that has to be accepted or else. Now, what happened to the softer, kinder Hillary we heard from just two years ago. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CLINTON: We need to get better at finding ways to disagree on matters of policy while agreeing on questions of decency and civility. How we talk to each other, treat each other, respect each other. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, isn't that nice at the Al Smith dinner? That's so nice. Unless our campaign goes down in flames, in other words, and unless our opponents fulfill his promises, in which case we will scorch the earth, civility be damned. Hillary could not even let the moment to pass for Brett Kavanaugh to have his ceremonial swearing in at the White House last night. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CLINTON: What was done last night in the White House was a political rally. It further undermined the image and integrity of the court. And that troubles me greatly. It saddens me because our judicial system has been viewed as one of the main pillars of our constitutional government. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: In what way was this a political rally? I was actually there last night. Of course people are excited. Just like when, you know, a Democrat president gets two justices or one justice? They are excited. It's a victory. You can't celebrate victories? It's only for Democrats? All the Supreme Court justices were sitting in the front row, we saw that all that last night, including the one of course appointed by your husband, Hillary. So, it was a nonpartisan moment of unity and may be a little bit of healing that Hillary refuses to acknowledge because, of course, she had no role in it. This is at the heart of the Democrats' Antifa like resistance. They are actually resentful that the country is moving ahead, growing, thriving, and reclaiming its power also on the world stage because they have no part in any of it. Because Trump was right, they were wrong, and they are ticked off about it. Liberal dogma and the giveaway policies of the past, that did not get us here, to this moment of achievement, economic achievement and otherwise. Lacking a governing agenda or any response to Trump's economic and global success. The Democrats have decided to run on just a platform of demonization. They are now even using the Kavanaugh vote to punish their own. Democrat Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia, in a close re-election race and Tennessee Democrat senatorial candidate Phil Bredesen are being lashed by the left for their respective votes and support of Kavanaugh. The liberal moveon.org close and PAC Priorities USA announced that they are withholding monies from the campaign of both Democrats. Now, if they won't even tolerate a little bit of diversity of opinion among their own Democratic colleagues, imagine what they will do to us if they regain power. And that's "The Angle." Joining me now is former U.S. attorney Joe diGenova and Democratic strategist Scott Bolden. Scott, to you first, you would have thought that after the attempted murder of Steve Scalise last year, that the Democrats would've kind of figured this out, that whipping people up into this frenzy and giving tacit support, if not a green light, for this type of stuff we saw over the last the past few days, that they'd kind of back off a little bit on that, but no. SCOTT BOLDEN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well, of course not. And by the way, do you have amnesia? When Barack Obama was in office for eight years, we had the Tea Party, we have Republican protest -- INGRAHAM: Wait, so they show up and shoot at Democratic candidates? I don't think so. BOLDEN: I don't recall. But I can tell you those protesters, right, I'm not for violence of any protest and I'm not for threats, but those protesters are exercising their First Amendment rights under democracy. You may not like it, but the Republicans have the Tea Party -- in fact, Mitch McConnell said the day that Barack Obama was elected that it was his job to make sure he was never elected again. INGRAHAM: What do you think the response would had been -- right, what was the response have been, Joe, if a number of conservative protesters had cornered -- let's say a Kamala Harris in an elevator and screamed "Shame on you!" and cornered her with a crowd of people around them? And then it continued. What do you think the media (inaudible) anti-woman and harassing? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: I don't think there is any doubt that the media would have played its legitimate role as part of the Democratic Party and would have objected strenuously. But the point here is, it's not just the protester. It's the people. It's the elected leaders of the Democratic Party who are encouraging this type of activity, which is exceedingly dangerous. It's going to lead to physical injury. It's already led to the shooting of Steve Scalise on a baseball diamond. When you have the type of language that Maxine Waters is using to get in people's face, Cory Booker calling for the same thing, get in people's face, these are elected leaders. What they say has an effect on the people that follow them. This is a very dangerous game that the Democrats are playing and they want to. And listening to Mrs. Clinton, of all people, she sounded like Dona Corleone, telling people that what they have to do is to simply be a violent and obstructive and nasty. I mean, it was like a mafia Dona talking. It was incredible. It's like something out of a bad movie. "We will extort from you civility when you give us one of the houses of congress." For heavensakes. BOLDEN: That's not what she said in that -- DIGENOVA: Of course it's what she said. INGRAHAM: OK, I want to (inaudible) Scott. I want Scott to react to this because McConnell and the president both reacted to Hillary's civility comment. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL, SENATE MAJORITY LEADER: She told CNN exactly how she views millions of Americans who hold different political views from her own. No peace until they get their way? More of these unhinged tactics? Apparently this is the left's rallying cry. TRUMP: I guess that's why she lost. She doesn't get it. She never did. I knew that a long time ago. Hillary never got it. That's why she lost. (END VIDEO CLIP) BOLDEN: When I listen to Hillary Clinton, I hear democracy. I hear those folks' constitutional rights to do to protest. We may not do it that way, but they protested how the meetings and how the hearings on Kavanaugh were held and the fact that truth wasn't the motivation that getting him elected. And so they have a right to be angry. Millions of women are suffering in silence. Are you all like not see that? And by the way, you are (inaudible) ahead of the GOP, the president of the United States, is not only the most divisive, but his unhinged statements, his statements about Nazi's being decent people, him taking and ordering babies taken from immigrants -- INGRAHAM: That's not what he said. BOLDEN: Exactly what he said. He said there are good people on both sides. INGRAHAM: He said, no. And he -- I think what he was trying to say -- BOLDEN: I can't tell you what he was trying to say. It shows me what he said. INGRAHAM: Scott, when this is - I understand what you are trying to do. I'm actually trying to do an intervention for the Democrats, and Scott is one of my -- I adore Scott -- BOLDEN: But you are ignoring Donald Trump and his divisive -- INGRAHAM: Donald yesterday, last night, something that made you want to focus on said, let's get back to a time of love, respect, and understanding. And that now that this is done, we hope -- and I'm paraphrasing but we've played it the last night -- I hope we can move on. This is a good man. Kavanaugh is a good man. I've known him for 30 years. The idea that someone 36 years ago with an unsubstantiated late in the game claims is going to lose everything he's ever -- we're going to have a statement coming -- BOLDEN: -- you think she was lying -- INGRAHAM: I don't believe anything that I heard from the smear machine. You are absolutely right. I don't believe any of that. BOLDEN: So you don't think he lied about his drinking? You don't believe he lied about his drinking? INGRAHAM: I don't believe the smear machine. BOLDEN: Even his supporters said he lied about it. INGRAHAM: So now, is that going to -- BOLDEN: I don't know, but if he lied -- (CROSSTALK) DIGENOVA: I don't believe a single -- (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: What about the partisan statement and the unhinged presentation that he drove. He presented that. DIGENOVA: You are not allowed to be a human if you are Republican. BOLDEN: No, no. Don't say that. DIGENOVA: You're just a filibuster. (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: You want to interrupt me? OK. All bets are off. No one told him to make a partisan speech. And you can be angry. You prepped a lot of witnesses just like I have to be angry and to be concerned. But he was like a partisan hack, a partisan piece, but I say he was offensive in his Q&A with the Democratic senators. You cannot ignore that. What does the GOP look at? INGRAHAM: Scott, you lost. You lost. BOLDEN: That's fine. And he's on the Supreme Court. INGRAHAM: Life tenure, two words. BOLDEN: But morning (ph) comes, in four weeks, the midterms, and you know what? Let me tell you something. INGRAHAM: So, do you want the impeachment? Do you want to impeach him? BOLDEN: I don't know. Impeach who? Kavanaugh? INGRAHAM: No, Kavanaugh. BOLDEN: Oh, I think Kavanaugh, if he lied to Congress certainly he deserves some investigations. This president -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: I want it. Bring it. Bring that on, because more information is going to be coming out about these accusers. BOLDEN: Sixty-five percent of America does not like the direction -- GIGENOVA: Fingernails on the blackboard. INGRAHAM: OK. BOLDEN: -- and you cannot ignore that. INGRAHAM: The president talked about the independent said that Democrats handled this terribly. Independents -- BOLDEN: And the GOP too. INGRAHAM: A 28-point spread on that. But impeachment -- I'm glad you brought it up because the president actually addresses -- it's actually kind of funny tonight. He actually addressed what will happen if the Democrats get back into power. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: The Democrats are even talking about doing really bad things now to Justice Kavanaugh. Last week they are saying we'll impeach him. Impeach him for what? For what? Besides that I have to go first. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joe, I mean that's -- (inaudible) his sense of humor is underrated. It was funny and serious at the same time, but that is the governing agenda right now. It's not help care for, that's kind of a amplified. Now, it's keep the rage going, keep them clawing at the Supreme Court doors, which is my gift (ph) now. DIGENOVA: I think that the Democrats have rolled the dice on violence, on antagonism, on confrontation, on the lack of civility. Remember, Hillary Clinton just said there will be no stability -- that's her position -- unless and until we get one or both houses. What you are watching is a shameful display and a continuation of the way the Democrats acted during the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings. And Justice Kavanaugh, during his response, reacted emotionally and, I think, quite properly. When you are being accused of being a gang rapist with no evidence whatsoever, I think you are entitled -- INGRAHAM: He was a little hot. He was a little hot. DIGENOVA: He was indeed. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: He was a little hot. I would have toned it down a little bit. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: But it was besides the point. BOLDEN: What about your own president that promotes violence? At his rallies, he promotes violence. INGRAHAM: Are we still back at that one example? BOLDEN: No -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: OK, tonight, this is for Scott. I'm going to give something to Scott because the entertainment industry is really on board pushing voter registration tonight. We don't have it? OK, I thought we had it. OK, we have a next block. But suffice it to say, they have a lot of juice on their side. They got Tom Steyer, they got George Soreos, the whole entertainment industry, poor old Taylor Swift is shaking off any sense of being apolitical. And now she's telling every people to register. So, we'll see how it plays out. BOLDEN: And she certainly named two people that she will support in Tennessee. But the blunt of her message was really about getting out to vote whether you agree with everything someone stands for or not, but get to vote and make your voices heard. DIGENOVA: Get out to vote and be for violence. That's what the Dems are for. Get out to vote and be for violence. BOLDEN: Donald Trump represents violence -- DIGENOVA: That's what the Dems want. They want confrontation and violence. INGRAHAM: All right guys. All right, for more on Trump and why he continues to wait on so many fronts, my new book, like we have it up there. There it is, "Busting the Barricades: What I Saw at the Populist Revolt" is out in paperback today. It's worth your time. You'll loveit. So pick it up. I have like multiple copies being split across the table. BOLDEN: -- to the Democrats! INGRAHAM: The idea of "believe all women" gone maybe a little bit too far. Wait until you hear of the details of this disturbing case. One of the big California campuses, an individual charge with sexual assault that tells us a lot about the environment that surrounded the Kavanaugh confirmation battle. Stay right there. INGRAHAM: Talked to a lot of men today and they kind of feel like there might be a target on their back. But it didn't start with Kavanaugh. It actually goes back to an Obama era Title IX reform. And a male student at the University of California Davis reportedly had a consensual encounter with a female student that relates to all of this. Now, some weeks later, according to "Reason" magazine, she convinced herself that she no longer thought it was a concessional thing with him, so she filed on campus a Title IX complaint against her fellow student and the university then started to investigate. Well, the man ended up spending $12,000 defending himself. For more on this case and why Betsy Devos wants to reform Title IX, we are joined by Brooks Goldstein, a human rights attorney and executive at the Lawfare Project and Anushay Hossain, who is a feminist and a columnist. Now, Brooke, let's start with you here. Tell me about this case at UC Davis. This young man turns out was innocent. BROOKE GOLDSTEIN, HUMAN RIGHTS ATTORNEY: Right. INGRAHAM: But he ends up spending 12 grand to clear his name? Isn't Title IX rigged against men? What's going on? GOLDSTEIN: Yes. Two and a half months of living hell and facing possible suspension from the school. What was so scary about this case is that the woman who filed the complaint did not even allege any type of violation of the UC Davis student code. She admitted that she engaged in consensual sexual relations with the individual, but she later regretted it. And so the school, instead of just closing the investigation right there, weighed the consequence of doing that. You know, they could face media uproar, a P.R. nightmare, so they went for two and a half months and investigated the student who was later found not guilty of doing anything. INGRAHAM: OK. , to me this hurts the cause of true sexual harassment because this is a case where a young man and a young woman consensually go into a room together. She tells him, and admits this, drop your shirt. He drops the shirt. I guess he touches her somewhere. But there was actually no -- they didn't consummate their relationship. I mean, sometime later, she's like, "no, this wasn't consensual." How do feminists not find this to be a disturbing lack of not only due process but a humiliating moment for real victims of sexual harassment? ANUSHAY HOSSAIN, FEMINIST ACTIVIST: You know Laura, I completely agree and I don't think that feminists think that, you know, we shouldn't be sympathetic to that. Anybody who is falsely accused of a crime, of a violent sexual crime or any crime really in general, it's terrible. It ruined a young man's life. These kinds of allegations -- INGRAHAM: $12,000. HOSSAIN: Yes, I mean, it's terrible. That being said, it's not like an epidemic. I think the statistic is 0.05 percent -- INGRAHAM: Is that right, it's not epidemic of men being falsely accused. We had the -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Hold on, hold on. OK, yes. Let Anushay finish and then we'll get you a spot. HOSSAIN: Well, I'm saying that it does happen and it's a very terrible thing. It shows how sexual assault on college campuses and Title XI is not a black and white issue. It can get very complicated. And every body's story is different. That being said, there is no need to be hysterical. It's not like an epidemic of all these men being wrongly accused and called -- INGRAHAM: The left cares about wrongly accused people and I happen to agree with them. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: I happen to agree with them like you find this DNA evidence, turns out someone has been in jail for 30 years. I mean that's a rallying cry for all people if you care about fairness. So if it's one person who is unfairly accused, that is a sign -- maybe people have gone too far in this. And there is an interesting poll that just came out. Brooke, you cab chime in here. Has public treatment of those accused of sexual assault gone too far? Yes, 47 percent, no, 35 percent, unsure, 18 percent. I always wonder about those unsure people. GOLDSTEIN: This is a societal epidemic and I think it's really important to understand -- HOSAIN: How is it an epidemic? GOLDSTEIN: -- how we got to this place where we have these many tribunals at schools and it's because in 2011 as you said in your opening there was an Obama -- HOSSAIN: Please explain how it's an epidemic? GOLDSTEIN: If you would allow me to. There was an Obama era guideline that was issued from the office of civil rights threatening to withhold federal funding from schools across the United States unless they implement these types of many mini tribunals where the preponderance of evidence rules, it's 51 percent where it's more likely than not that somebody would be found responsible for one of these sexual assault allegations. And what has happened now ironically there are over 300 lawsuits against American schools, both by men and women, alleging a violation of their due process rights that they have been discriminated against because the way that schools are enforcing Title VI through these tribunals, there is no due process, there is no fairness, the victim is assumed to have been assaulted. The accused is assumed to have been -- to be already guilty. INGRAHAM: All right, let's get Anushay in here and then I want to play something. HOSSAIN: You can't make up a blanket statement like then, Brooke. I have no idea where you are getting your stats from. And people, we can disagree on statistics and number -- GOLDSTEIN: Westlaw, look it up. INGRAHAM: Westlaw, that's true. LexisNexis. HOSSAIN: -- we can disagree on stats. I don't know what Westlaw is. (CROSSTALK) HOSSAIN: May I finish? I let you speak. I think we need to be very sympathetic and very careful. But that being said, I mean, let's connect as women here. We know that just as a fact, we think about our security and if we are going to be assaulted or attacked, much more -- I mean, people say that it's easier and more likely that you'll be accused of murder than wrongly accused of sexual assault. INGRAHAM: Right. HOSSAIN: So, it's a very small number. It does happen. It's bad and -- INGRAHAM: I'm going to do my own Westlaw check, Brooke, afterwards, make sure the (inaudible). It's been a while since I've used Westlaw but I actually remember. All right, this is interesting. This all kind of dovetails into the Kavanagh situation and Cecile Richards, of course, who is former head of Planned Parenthood, she chimed in. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CECILE RICHARDS, FORMER HEAD OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD: I think women are look at who controls the judiciary committee. This was all male, you know, majority who jammed through this appointment and were so disrespectful of Dr. Ford, of other women who came forward and women understand that. (ED VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Anushay, so -- I thought they were pretty respectful to Christine Ford. The prosecutor asked questions, but she was very -- are you OK? Is everything all right? Tell me if you need me to rephrase? I mean, I thought that was actually too easy on Christine Ford, frankly, but I do not get that they were mistreating Christine Ford at the hearing. HOSSAIN: Well, you know, first of all, she came forward with her truth, and she was -- when women come forward, they have very little to gain from this. INGRAHAM: Not that $700,000 from her Go Fund Me page, $700,000. Where is that going. HOSSAIN: I know, but look at her know. She had to move out of her home. She can't stay at her house. She's getting death threats. What I'm saying is. INGRAHAM: She shouldn't send anonymous letters to Dianne Feinstein who will then leak them, right? HOSSAIN: Are we victim blaming? Are we blaming Dr. Ford for coming -- INGRAHAM: Don't play that game. HOSSAIN: I'm not playing a game. INGRAHAM: The whole, we as women feel this. I'm an American. I'm a person. HOSSAIN: I get it. I'm American, and so is Dr. Ford coming forward with her truth. INGRAHAM: With her truth. HOSSAIN: Let's blame women. INGRAHAM: That doesn't work, though, for most people. I get what you are saying. Criminals should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. HOSSAIN: She didn't even get a fair investigation. Everybody knows the Republicans -- it was such a sham. They didn't even interview her. INGRAHAM: They didn't interview her. No comments. Brook, final, quick. BROOKE GOLDSTEIN, THE LAWFARE PROJECT: OK, look, what is undeniable is that men obviously are feeling scared to the point where we are now seeing male students also rush to file Title IX claims when they've had -- INGRAHAM: We're out of time. Brooke, we've got to stop all of this. HOSSAIN: Poor white men. INGRAHAM: People have to start being responsible, reporting these things immediately, and not putting yourself in situations where you can't get help from people who are near you. So men and women, wise up on this stuff. Coming up, former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus is here next. A lot more to get to, midterms four weeks away. INGRAHAM: It turned out to be one of the best-kept secrets of the Trump administration. Nikki Haley announced today during my radio show that she is resigning as U.S. ambassador of the U.N. That's happening in January. During the president's Oval Office announcement Haley squashed this idea that the Democrats hopes for a challenger to Trump, that she was going to be delivering that, saying she is not running in 2020. So what's her next move? Former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus joins me in just moment with his reaction, maybe even a little inside knowledge. But first, FOX News chief national correspondent Ed Henry breaks it all down for us. Ed? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Laura, good to see you. It's a broader context, because Judge Kavanaugh may have actually finally help bring the establishment and Trump wings of the GOP together, because it was President Trump who never wavered in standing up for Kavanaugh even though his nominee was a Bush veteran that other party stalwarts were cautious about going to the mat for when the left was trying to tear him down. This dynamic on display as you noted last night at the celebration for Kavanaugh when the president told the justice's daughters their dad is an honorable man, and knowing critics would pounce on his remarks, the president forged ahead anyway and declared that the justice was proven to be innocent in the end. When the president introduced Mitch McConnell and he got a standing ovation, the president quipped it was the biggest hand McConnell had ever received and, quote, they don't get it, Mitch, meaning he's now shepherded through two Supreme Court nominations plus the tax cuts, of course. Then there's senator Lindsay Graham who lost to candidate Trump in the 2016 primaries, and at the time warned Republicans if they nominated Trump, they would get destroyed. After his fiery speech helping Kavanaugh, many Democrats calling Graham a sellout, but months ago he told a CNN anchor in a clip that has not gone viral, if the mainstream media doesn't want Graham to try and help the president pass his agenda, he doesn't give a bleep. And Nikki Haley, you mentioned, has done much the same. A critic in the 2016 primaries became one of the more effective members of his foreign policy team, taking on Russia, Iran, and Syria. Today she shot down speculation by never Trumpers that she will challenge the president in 2020 by flatly saying she will not be a candidate. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NIKKI HALEY, U.S. AMBASSADOR TO U.N.: No, I am not running for 2020. I can promise you what I will be doing is campaigning for this one. So I look forward to supporting the candidate in the next election. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: She added she will continue to support the president's policies which Haley said are moving the country forward. Of course there are still allies of the president wondering why that list of policy accomplishments does not include real funding for the wall, for example, which keeps them skeptical about establishment figures like Senator McConnell, Laura. INGRAHAM: Thank you so much, Ed. For reaction on the Haley resignation and the GOP prospects for the midterms we are joined by former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus. Reince, it's great to see you. Miss you in studio, though. How significant -- REINCE PRIEBUS, FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF: I know. It's better when I'm there. INGRAHAM: Oh, come on -- that Haley said she won't challenge the president in 2020, and what do you make of the way this announcement was handled, specifically the timing? PRIEBUS: Well, I think that all parties wanted to wait until the Kavanaugh situation was all set. I think this is something that people knew in the White House for a long time. The president obviously knew it for weeks. And I think knowing the president, he said get me through Kavanaugh, and he wanted to take care of it right away. And I think it's really smart for Ambassador Haley to do the announcement with the president before the midterms because if you already know you are going to leave, you don't want to obviously make it look like, hey, I'm leaving because maybe they didn't do us well in the House as they wanted to. So doing it now I think is smart. And I happen to believe, and I think I have some inside knowledge of it, but that this has nothing to do with any mysterious explanation as to why Ambassador Haley has left. This is simply exactly what you see is the truth. INGRAHAM: Reince, they were speculating today it was going to be Ivanka. Then the president came out and said, she'd be great of course, and nepotism. And Ivanka comes out and says, I am not interested, not doing it. Speculation about Lindsay Graham is going to go be attorney general. The chess pieces are moving on the board. But I've got to tell you what CNN was saying. They have a theory over at CNN. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The president has just came out of a major political fight involving a Supreme Court nominee who was accused of sexual misconduct at a time when we've been focusing in on the president's standings with female voters. We've seen so much anger from women, and some folks are questioning the timing, saying that Haley is doing this now naturally leads to questions about whether they are related. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, is there any relation between the Kavanaugh accusations and Haley leaving? PRIEBUS: That's just so dumb it's hard to respond. I think that this is what you see is what you get. I think Ambassador Haley with the president and Mike Pompeo have done an incredible job when it comes to Israel, Iran, North Korea. If you think about what's happening internationally, we spend so much time talking about the economy and how good things are going in this country. Internationally, though, what's been accomplished in two years with Ambassador Haley and the president is equivalent to an entire two term presidency. And so hats off to everyone involved. INGRAHAM: Reince, we have four weeks now until the midterm elections. You were running the RNC when the Republicans in 2014, they actually picked up seats. In 2010, we saw the Tea Party. What now? Can we hold this fire about Kavanaugh and the GOP unity through the midterms? PRIEBUS: Look, the Kavanaugh situation has certainly helped Republicans across the board. There are two windows you have to look through. One is the Senate window. What's happened with Kavanaugh given the fact races are in North Dakota, West Virginia, Indiana, Missouri, very much -- Montana -- red states, the Democrats really injured themselves tremendously by what they've done on the Kavanaugh. But most importantly, as a party chairman, what people should understand out there is midterm elections generally are not about turning out just people that are watching this right now and either really identify Democrats or identify Republicans. This is about identifying voters and turning them out. In order to do that, and that sounds like boring stuff, but in order to do that, identifying voters and turning them out, you need the machinery to get that done. INGRAHAM: Do they have them over at the RNC? You put this in place. Do they have it? PRIEBUS: They do. But what you need, Laura, is voter enthusiasm. And so Kavanaugh has energized Republican. The Democrats were already at a 10. They're anti-Trump 10 voters. And so what's happened is the six and sevens on the Republican side are now elevated to a level nine and 10. INGRAHAM: Yes, they're coming home. PRIEBUS: And that's given Republicans in the House a fighting shock to actually save the House now. So obviously I've seen it all across the country. INGRAHAM: Reince, thank you so much tonight. Cory Booker, by the way, is already planting his flag in Iowa as a potentially 2020 run many are predicting. We are going to show you exactly how Senator Spartacus seemed to be channeling another preachy president. Video when we return. INGRAHAM: On the road to the 2020 Cory Booker began as the great hope for the third way, more moderate Democrats, but now he's morphed into a radical leftist with an eye on the next presidential election. He showed up in Iowa this weekend and fresh off the Kavanaugh vote, doing his best to channel his inner Obama. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CORY BOOKER, (D) NEW JERSEY: Hope is the active conviction that despair will never have the last word. BARACK OBAMA, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: In this new decade, it's time the American people get a government that matches their decency. BOOKER: It's the party of we, not the party of me. It's a party of inclusion, not the party of exclusion. OBAMA: Out of many, we are one, that while we breathe, we hope. BOOKER: We are not defined by what's happened in this state by Republicans in power. We are defined by how we respond. OBAMA: We do not give up. We do not quit. We did not allow fear or division to break our spirit. BOOKER: Amen! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me now with reaction, Matt Schlapp, the chair of the America Conservative Union, and Chris Hahn, a former aide to Chuck Schumer. On radio today, guys, I played the Obama and Cory back-to-back, back-to- back, back-to-back. Especially when Obama's campaigning, you know how he does the shout out, hello Cleveland, he does the very cool cat thing. Cory Booker was absolutely, he must've been just watching old reels of Obama, Chris. And I had dinner with Cory Booker back whenever it was, he was a moderate. He sounds totally different now. Is this the genuine Cory Booker? Which is the real Cory Booker, the moderate guy or the guy we are seeing now? CHRIS HAHN, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: I love you, Laura, but you and I live on a different planet. INGRAHAM: Good. (LAUGHTER) HAHN: I listened to what he was saying. That is a fantastic speech. It's uplifting. It's not overly partisan. And if he's going to channel Obama - - by the way, that's what any Democrat who hopes to get elected president of the United States has to do. They have to channel Obama who brought together a coalition that was a winning coalition that included a lot of people who voted for Donald Trump. And anybody who is counting people out who are channeling Obama right now, remember, we counted out Trump for a while. INGRAHAM: Chris, do you not remember Cory Booker was hanging around with Republicans. He was criticizing in 2012 people who were trashing Romney for being a private equity guy at Bain Capital. He was hitting them, saying don't demonize private equity. Matt Schlapp, it's just an observation. Obama was a two-term Democrat president. Can't really blame Cory Booker for trying to get some of the Obama magic, but he's not Obama. He's not Obama. I'm sorry. He doesn't have that magnetism that Obama has. That's my sense. HAHN: Nobody is Obama. MATT SCHLAPP, CONTRIBUTOR, "THE HILL": I actually painfully watched the speech in Iowa and I give them credit. I think he's a real comer for this nomination. But I agree with you. He wanted to work with conservatives on issues like criminal justice reform when he thought Hillary Clinton was going to be the president, he was going to be the bridge builder. He doesn't want to build any bridges. It's all about appealing to #resistance and the search and destroy. And the reason for that, Laura and Chris, is the Democratic Party is in this mortal combat. Is it going to be a socialist party or is it going to be a center-left American capitalist party? And when you have a majority of Democrats not saying they would like to be a socialist party, that's why these candidates go to the left. It's a Gallup poll, Chris. I'll send it to you. Do you want me to email it to you? I'd be happy to. HAHN: Send it to me, Matt, because you are making it up. SCHLAPP: The Gallup is a pretty serious Paul, Chris. HAHN: Matt, come on. Your idea of bipartisanship is liberals giving up their values to vote with conservatives. My idea of bipartisanship is compromise for the common good. And I think that we need to start working towards that. Don't you? INGRAHAM: I think that's a good point. But I would also say, just stick to one issue for a moment, Chris. Criminal justice reform, prison reform, those were issues, big issues, for Cory Booker. I remember. That's when I was introduced to him and I thought he was really interesting. HAHN: They still are. INGRAHAM: But this is what the Trump administration is pursuing. Why is it only Van Jones over at the White House working with the administration? There are very few Democrats, including Booker, because he's looking at 2020, and he doesn't want to give Trump a win on an issue that he claimed he really cared about. Chris? HAHN: Cory Booker introduced legislations with Senator Mike Lee of Utah, a known conservative, from what I'm told, to do just that. And he worked with Mike Lee and they found common ground on that. INGRAHAM: Where is he with the president running on this? HAHN: So they have a bill in the Senate that will pass, and hopefully they can work with Speaker Ryan -- SCHLAPP: This is an issue -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Guys, out of time. Out of time. We will see who channels the best Obama in this Democrat primary coming up in 2020. That's a hard act to follow. Newly confirmed Supreme Court justice Brett Kavanaugh heard his first cases earlier today, and the left is already calling him, guess what, illegitimate. Andy McCarthy up next. INGRAHAM: Justice Brett Kavanaugh's first day on the bench today, and the left are already trying to paint a scene and say he is illegitimate. To react I'm joined by former assistant U.S. attorney and FOX News contributor Andy McCarthy. Andy, I have never seen anything like this. When a Republican Congress or Senate, they allow someone to get confirmed, Democrat appointee, nominee. He goes on the court, goes on, not here. ANDY MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: No, no. Our guy gets on to the court, the institution is now illegitimate. They spent three weeks telling us that he's not fit because the institution is so important, and now he's on, so now the institution is the problem. I wish that they actually thought, as we think, that the court has too much of an outsized role in our lives and that we could actually have things recited by like the people who we vote for and who are accountable to us. INGRAHAM: Do you think of anything of, by the way, the Rod Rosenstein, the plane ride with the president yesterday, and the president, gosh, they just seem to be old buddies now. What is going on with that? MCCARTHY: I think this thing is winding down, Laura, and I think the investigation is winding down. I think the president realizes that if he were to get rid of Rosenstein at this point, it would be like firing Comey times three. And it would give Mueller a reason to extend the investigation. Why would he want to do that? It looks like now there is not going to be any charges. They're staffing down. They've transitioned a lot of these cases that they brought to other components of the Justice Department. This is about over. INGRAHAM: Well, nothing will be over until after the election. MCCARTHY: No, I don't think so. I don't think so. But I think the handwriting is on the wall that what we will be arguing about is what's in the report, but it won't be impeachable offenses or chargeable offenses. It will be what kind of unsavory conduct should I put in there and how much of it should get publicized? INGRAHAM: By the way, Hillary said she was very saddened earlier today about the court, and that this is very sad because it is a pillar of our democracy, don't you know? It's not a co-equal branch of our government. It's a pillar of our democracy. I'm quibbling with the words here. MCCARTHY: It hurts me deeply when she is sad. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: I think Andy could be doing great deadpan comedy, don't you think? It hurts him greatly. Andy, I love having you in D.C. Come back soon. All right, when we return, a message for our friends in Florida, and a book you must read, early Christmas present, really? Yes. Stay there. INGRAHAM: OK, my book, "Busting the Barricades," I think we have a full screen of it so you can actually see it. There it is. It's out today. What I saw at the populist revolt, how Trump became the juggernaut that he is and the Republican Party. And a brand new preface. You'll love it. Great early gift for Christmas. And all of our friends in Florida, as hurricane Michael bears down on you, please, please, please follow the advice of the all the local authorities, evacuate, and know that we're with you in our thoughts and our prayers. And that is all we have tonight. Load-Date: October 10, 2018 End of Document Kavanaugh Sworn in as Supreme Court Justice; President Trump: What Happened to Kavanaugh Family Violates Every Notion of Fairness; Interview with Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina; Senator Susan Collins is Now Being Attacked by the Democrats and Other Critics for Supporting Justice Kavanaugh; James Baker Who Was a very Close Confidante of James Comey and Worked Very Closely with Former Deputy Director of the FBI Andrew McCabe, Gave an Explosive Testimony Saying that Michael Sussman Who Was a Lawyer for Perkins Coie, Delivered Information to Him Both on a Hard Drive and in Hard Copy about Russia Hacking Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 8, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7140 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Tammy Bruce, Sebastian Gorka, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett Guests: Lindsey Graham, Alan Dershowitz, Laura Trump Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Thanks, Tucker. Great show. And welcome to HANNITY. So much breaking news tonight. Judge Brett Kavanaugh has been sworn in and is now officially the newest member of the United States Supreme Court Democrats utterly failed to block Kavanaugh's rightful nomination and in doing so, they have once again been exposed as a party of no ideas but smearing slandering lies, character assassination, people that will freely abandon the rule of law, common decency, due process and even any presumption of innocence. And we're going to review the worst of the worst from the past several days. Now, as of tonight, we have only days to go until the all-important midterm elections and the left and their disgusting use of identity politics is on full display. We'll cover it all tonight. We see it every two and four years. You know they say about Republicans. We now know what they do and one in confirmations. They'll always go after anybody and we have so much more. We're going to actually play it and remind you they vilify political differences. They hope you, we the people, will blindly buy into their lies. We're going to explain why this all matters because in 29 days, the choice is going to be clear. Do you want mob rule or law and order? Do you want guilt by accusation or the presumption of innocence? Do you like identity politics that divides us or do you want a booming economy that works for every American, especially the forgotten men and women in this country? Will you get to the polls in 29 days? Will you want to shock the world again in 29 days, or will you get the government of Pelosi, Schumer, Maxine Waters that you deserve? Also tonight, stay tuned. There is huge breaking news this week about the deep state. Let me put it this way. The dam is breaking tick-tock. There's going to be a massive breaking news week. First, it's time as we begin tonight's important Monday breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. In 2016, remember then-candidate Trump, he promised to reshape the U.S. Supreme Court. He wanted to put on people that were originally constitutionalist, those people as judges. Not people that legislate from the bench. Well, tonight, President Trump has resoundly fulfilled yet another campaign promise. Judge Brett Kavanaugh is now officially been sworn in as the newest member of the U.S. Supreme Court, a lifetime appointment, making him now the second judge successfully sent to this bench by the president. And tonight during his swearing in ceremony, the president, he congratulated Judge Kavanaugh. He also apologized for the horrific nomination process that we all witnessed for almost three straight weeks. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDOE CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: On behalf of our nation, I want to apologize to Brett and the entire Kavanaugh family for the terrible pain and suffering you have been forced to endure. Those who step forward to serve our country deserve a fair and dignified evaluation, not a campaign of political and personal destruction based on lies and deception. What happened to the Kavanaugh a family violates every notion of fairness decency and due process. Our country, a man or a woman, must always be presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Presumption of innocence, it is core to who we are. Judge Brett Kavanaugh had this to say about his historic nomination. Let's take a look at that. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUSTICE BRETT KAVANAUGH, U.S. SUPREME COURT: Article 3 of the Constitution provides that the judicial power shall be vested in one Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is an institution of law. It is not a partisan or political institution. The justices do not sit on opposite sides of an aisle. We do not caucus in separate rooms. The Supreme Court is a team of nine and I will always be a team player on the team of nine. I was not appointed to serve one party or one interests, but to serve one nation. America's Constitution and laws protect every person of every belief and every background. Every litigant in the Supreme Court can be assured that I listen to their arguments with respect and in open minds. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now in the face of one of the most despicable, disgusting political hit jobs ever in our history -- well, Judge Brett Kavanaugh just made history now from the very beginning the day that Justice Kennedy announced his retirement right here on this program, I warned you all of this would happen. Now, tonight, we begin thanks to all of you. This is now the beginning of my 23rd consecutive year right here on the FOX News Channel, and over the course of that period, we have chronicled all of this for you. It is the Democratic playbook. We get this all the time. Robert Bork, Clarence Thomas and now they did it to Justice Kavanaugh and his two young girls and his wife and his family. What this is about is about power. The left will stop at nothing when it comes to blocking a nomination or winning an election. Elected Democrats openly even accusing Kavanaugh of gang rape and drugging teenage girls on a regular, almost weekend basis, calling him evil, comparing him to Bill Cosby and so much more. And with zero, zero corroborating evidence, zero corroborating witnesses and it was based on, what, nearly four decades old claims and most of them had holes and inconsistencies all over the place. Now, this kind of guilt by accusation was parroted by the so-called news media in this country, including the late- night so-called common comedian and comedy shows with the far-left holier-than-thou host like Stephen Colbert. Over the weekend, well, we had a writer for Colbert's late night show actually tweeting this: Whatever happens, I'm just glad we ruined Brett Kavanaugh's life. Just for a second, stand back, think how ugly and despicable disgusting that is. She later apologized and she's being sarcastic. Nothing funny. That tweet sums up pretty much what we have witnessed now for far too many elections, far too many confirmations in this country. And unfortunately, it's all they're offering you the American people in 29 days. The politics of personal destruction their motivations, they -- it's clear, it's obvious, it's transparent. They want to regain power and they do it try to make conservatives as evil as you possibly can. And as you can imagine, well, they're taking the Kavanaugh -- they're taken the Kavanaugh confirmation tonight very well. Gee, this is a shocker. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the institutionalization of tribalism on the court. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Women who are shrieking out in agony saying you cannot impose this on us. You can't send us back to the `50s. But Mitch McConnell says, yes, I can. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a president who says. He's for law and order, but not when it comes to sexual assault. That's quite clear. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think this is in many ways a crushing defeat for women, for women's rights. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Trump has delivered for these people on the things that they care about most. He has delivered racism for these people. He has delivered misogyny for these people and now, he's delivered the Supreme Court for these people. We're going to see if this if this reign that they now have control over all three branches of government, we're going to see if this reign lasts for 30 days or two years, or Thousand-Year Reich. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, after Senator Susan Collins issued a historic address and bravely cast what was the deciding vote, sending Judge Kavanaugh to the bench -- well, recently, Senator Collins, her staff, get this receiving rape threats, death threats, other derogatory calls. An op-ed in "The New York Times" entitled: White women, come get your people -- slamming Collins and any woman that thought different than they did and supported Kavanaugh, calling them, quote, gender traitors. Over at NBC News, an op-ed led with the headline, quote: Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation is the ultimate affirmation of the patriarchy and Republican women let it happen. Next, there is known anti-Semite, anti-Sharia law or Sharia law advocate, Linda Sarsour. Really? She's helping organize the women's march and actually introduced Senator Kirsten Gillibrand in New York at an anti- Kavanaugh protest? A woman that tweeted out, quote, that Senator Collins is, quote, a disgrace and her legacy will be that she was a traitor to women and marginalized communities? History will not treat her kindly. Cancel Kavanaugh, hashtag. As you can see, devoid of any new ideas to help improve our country, make us more secure, more prosperous, look at what Democrats do, they divide Americans this is what identity politics is. Every two years, every four years, you watch elections, what liberals do, what does the Democratic Party do? They call Republicans and conservatives racist, sexist misogynistic, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic. They want dirty air and water. Republicans want to take your grandma on a wheelchair and throw them over a cliff and they want to kill children. It's nothing new. This is their playbook. Don't take my word for it. We have been chronicling a history of slander, character assassination, character bludgeoning by the left for now as we begin our 23rd year, four decades on this program. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Many Republicans talking coded racial language about takers and losers. They demonize President Obama and encourage the ugliest impulses of the paranoid fringe. BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: If you accept the support of Klan sympathizers before you are president, you will accept their support after you're president. JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: He's going to let the big banks once again write their own rules, unchained Wall Street. They're going to put y'all back in chains. AL GORE, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: It's wrong what the leader of the Republican Party and this Congress are doing in blocking an accurate census because they don't want to count everyone that they don't think they can count on. They are in favor of affirmative action if you can dunk the basketball or sink a three-point shot. But they're not in favor of it if you merely have the potential to be a leader in your community and bring people together. Don't tell me we've got a colorblind society. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: June 7, 1998, in Texas, my father was killed. He was beaten, chained and then dragged three miles to his death all because he was black. So, when Governor George W. Bush refused to support hate crimes legislation, it was like my father was killed all over again. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you don't vote, you let another church explode. When you don't vote, you allow another cross to burn. (MUIC) OBAMA: And then you got their plan, which is, let's have dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: See? We don't just make this stuff up. This is what they say every two and four years tonight, while the stakes could not be any higher because in days if we the American people reward this party, for these despicable disgusting tactics, we all know what's going to happen. Now, I have warned you over and over again, they don't have a plan the Democratic Party to make your life better about the forgotten men and women of this country. Clearly, they are destroyed Trump every minute, every second, every hour of every day. They want impeachment, open borders, get rid of ice. They want to keep Obamacare, how's that working? And remember the tax cuts that have now created four million jobs got four million Americans off of food stamps. They want their crumbs back. But again, don't take Hannity's word for it. Listen for yourself, they are telling you what they want to do in 29 days if we are stupid enough to give them back power. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When y'all going to impeach Trump? SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY), SENATE MINORITY LEADER: Sooner the better. REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: They say Maxine please don't say impeachment anymore. And when they say that, I say impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment. REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: In terms of the bonus that corporate America received versus the crumbs that they are giving to workers to kind of put the schmooze on is so pathetic. SCHUMER: They should once and for all work with us to improve the Affordable Care Act and renounce repeal once and for all as well. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: We've got to critically re-examine ICE and its role and the way that it is being administered and the work it is doing, and we need to probably think about starting from scratch. SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: We should protect families that need our help and that is not what ICE is doing today and that's why I believe you should get rid of it, start over, reimagine it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Twenty-nine days to go until the most important midterms in our country's history. The fate of the country is resting in your hands. We ultimately have the power, so let's set the stage. First, it's so important to remember the party that controls the presidency has gained seats in the House of Representatives only three times in the last hundred years. Last time was in 2002, after 9/11. The stakes have never been this high. So, will you the American people reward these despicable, disgusting political tactics from our party that has no plan to make your life better, or will you ask yourself, you know, this simple question are you -- is America better off than we were two years ago? Is the country better off? Is America stronger? Is America safer? Is the economy doing better? Is the president keeping promises that he made to you the American people? Look at your screen. Now, the answer to those questions you'll never see this on any other show. Well, look at the answers right there. Overwhelming success, the unemployment rate in this country dropped to its lowest level in nearly 50 years, 1969, the Mets won the World Series. It's now at 3.7 percent. Hispanic unemployment in America all-time low. We're seeing historic unemployment lows for African Americans, Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans, women in the workforce, youth unemployment. We have record low unemployment now in 14 states out of our 50 states. Manufacturing confidence at an all-time high. By the way, 400,000 new manufacturing jobs brought back to America, jobs Obama said we're never coming back. Consumer confidence all-time high, four million fewer people tonight on food stamps than two years ago, eight million people out of poverty. That's happened in two years. Three plus trillion dollars spent on securing our borders and building the wall, that's underway. The president kept his promise on NAFTA. He pulled us out of the catastrophic Iranian deal. And don't forget about the historic progress that's going on now. We haven't seen a missile from little rocket man since December of last year. It was like a missile a day being fired by little rocket man. President now making progress. We might be able to have denuclearization of the entire peninsula in the Korean peninsula. We have new pipelines that have been opened up, that's American jobs, that's American energy sector now booming in this country. ANWR is now open. Coal miners jobs have been saved in West Virginia. Two originalists on the U.S. Supreme Court confirmed. We now have promises made promises kept. Two years, President Trump has kept his promise and again his agendas reshaping the country for the better. But tonight, that agenda, 29 days from now, is in jeopardy our booming economy in jeopardy look closely if you live in one of those House districts that you see in yellow on your screen, look closely because those districts are the ones that will decide whether or not Nancy Pelosi will become the next speaker of the House, because Pelosi, she was already measuring the drapes and planning on, what, endless investigation after investigation even into the newly appointed Supreme Court justice, Justice Kavanaugh. Sore loser. On top of all the other investigations, the House is planning to go after President Trump two years non-stop. They're on a quest. They've been telegraphing it. They want to impeach this president. And all they want is a majority from you to fulfill their seedy dreams. And meanwhile, if you live in one of these states, you're going to decide the future of the United States Senate. By the way, look how close the vote was this weekend. You live in North Dakota, Senator Heidi Heitkamp, well, she gave in to the Democratic mob. She voted against Judge Kavanaugh, and so too did Joe Donnelly in Indiana, and so too did Bill Nelson in Florida, and so too did all of these Democrats with the exception of one, Joe Manchin of West Virginia. There are no more moderates left in the Democratic Party, there's no diversity of opinion anymore. The Democratic Party is evolved into a party of the radical far left and then not thinking about how to help the American people with jobs and security. It's a party that has proven in the last three weeks that they have a disdain even for our U.S. Constitution which should be nonpartisan, which we all love, and basic principles which should unite us, not divide us. Due process, the presumption of innocence, they've now become the party of smears, lies slander, besmirchment, and bludgeoning, the party of identity politics. Now in 29 days, every American in every corner of this great country, you've got to rise up and send the message. Democrats, their brand of ruthless politics, you cannot reward people for what they do every two and four years, what they've done the last three weeks. If you don't get to the polls and vote, core principles that we all hold dearly are at stake. This is the most important midterm election in our lifetime. All right. Joining us now, the author of the brand-new book -- by the way, I've got my copy right here signed and autographed, it is on amazon.com, bookstores everywhere, Hannity.com, it's an amazing book, I just finished it this weekend. "Why We Fight: Defeating America's Enemies with No Apologies", and FOX News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka, FOX News contributor Tammy Bruce. Tammy, let's start with you. You have been a leading voice -- for those that don't know your background, you were once a leader of the National Organization for Women. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: That's right. HANNITY: And you were once on the left. BRUCE: Yes. HANNITY: You have you have said to me over and over again the left has evolved into this party. BRUCE: Yes. HANNITY: Are my adjectives accurate or over the top? BRUCE: No, you're absolutely correct. What I would suggest though is a lot of people are saying that they've become this and almost like this is an acute revelation of what the Democrats have become. What I would submit is that they've always been this way. The difference is is that it's been dressed differently, right? This is now -- what you've seen with the Kavanaugh situation are all of those previously well-dressed, well-sounding Democrats who've been saying effectively the same thing, all of running out of their homes completely naked. We've seen them now for what they are, and that that's I think what the American people are shocked at that. The Democrats have panicked so much at what the Donald Trump election really means that now all of the hate which is what drives them is coming forward and the signal that they have decided to go for broke is in not just all of the efforts, of course, to undermine due process or the presumption of innocence or the rule of law, it's the threats that they are now issuing. It is the threats against the senators, it's against Sarah Sanders, it's -- it is the remarkable behavior that they display that they seem to not care at all about the impact that it's having on viewers. And I would suggest, Sean, it's not just the conservatives or Republicans that need to come out. I know that classical liberals are as appalled at what has transpired. Those are individuals that need to come out and now there's a new poll that is out that says 56 percent of independents disapproved of the way. The Democrats handled the Kavanaugh's hearing. HANNITY: How could they not? We cannot divided -- we can't divide the country this way. BRUCE: Yes, yes. HANNTY: Let me bring in Dr. Gorka. One of the things -- not only do I love your title, "Why We Fight: Defeating America's Enemies With No Apologies", this also is on the ballot. I don't see rockets being fired over Japan every other day and threatening the entire peninsula in the world with nuclear weapons. Little rocket man's at the table, the Iranians aren't getting cargo planes of cash. This election matters and it does fit into the theme of your book. DR. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: What about ISIS, Sean? What about China? China is coming to the table. Yes, your list, I need that list you used in a monologue. How many items were on your list in just the last 20 months of the Trump administration? It's incredible. But to Tammy's point, and to why I wrote "Why We Fight", what we saw in the last 14 days, it's not new. In my book, I have a whole chapter on Whittaker chambers. In 1948, the first televised congressional testimony was of a man who was Kavanaughed before Judge Kavanaugh or Justice Kavanaugh was even born, a man who stood up for the truth, who said, well, there are Soviet agents in the U.S. administration. They accused him of cheating on his wife, of being a homosexual, of killing or being responsible for the death of his brother. None of it was true, Sean. That was 1948. The Democrats have always been fueled by hatred and by lies. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Go ahead. GORKA: The difference is social media. We can see these crazy people clawing at the doors of the Supreme Court. HANNITY: All right. The prediction both you, will Republicans and conservatives come out in 29 days? BRUCE: They will and independents will as well because they were a little depressed also. But yes, they will. HANNITY: All right. I've got to leave here. But thank you both. GORKA: I think -- I think -- HANNITY: Lindsey Graham is next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE: I think the members of the United States Senate. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell for his leadership and steady resolve. I thank Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley for his wisdom and fairness. And I give special gratitude to Senators Rob Portman, Susan Collins, Joe Manchin, Jon Kyl and Lindsey Graham. They are a credit to the country and the Senate. I'll ill forever grateful to each of them and to all of the senators who carefully considered my nomination. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That was the new associate justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, Brett Kavanaugh, thanking members of the Senate, including my next guest, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. Senator Graham, I said to you last week, and I'll say it again tonight. I don't think this would have happened without you. The moment where it was just organic for you was extraordinarily powerful inasmuch as it was righteous indignation at that moment. And the other thing I like to say, I don't think it would have happened -- I watched the speech of Susan Collins, and I said this Friday night on the show. I think it was the best Senate speech I've ever seen. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Yes. HANNITY: Methodically laying out the case with no influence outside from anybody under enormous pressure. And I've heard ever horrible thing said about this woman. And I'm thinking, where is their sense of decency and dignity? If you play out an intelligent case but you just happen to disagree. GRAHAM: Well, it's about outcomes for our friends on the left. There is nothing they won't do to maintain power. There is nothing they won't do to take it back when they lose it. Susan Collins represented the best in the country. She thought about what she did. She explained what she did. She made a recent decision. The people on the other side were going to destroy Kavanaugh if we let them. To the extent that my intervention helped a good man who was being railroaded and humiliated, I am pleased. And to President Trump, thank you for sticking by Brett. To Brett, thank for having the courage to stay in there when a lot of people would quit. I'm forever grateful to both Brett Kavanaugh and President Trump. HANNITY: What I see now in people a level of energy and enthusiasm and just raw, we're not going to put up with this. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: That I think it's ignited across the country. I don't know the impact it will have on the country in 29 days. But considering that we see every two to four years and every confirmation these tactics. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: We can't reward this behavior because we'll just get a lot more of it. GRAHAM: I think that's what Susan was understanding. Is that if she legitimize this process, God help the next person to be nominated for the Supreme Court. And to legitimize this process the rule of law gave away to a mob rule. The Hirono standard is horrific. What was insulting is the way that the senator from Hawaii took everything we hold near and dear to us-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way, senator, you shouldn't be saying that. You should shut up and sit down she said. She said men should shut up and sit down. Shut up, senator and sit down. (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: The only thing-- HANNITY: That goes for me too. GRAHAM: Yes. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. It's probably right half the time. But the people at South Carolina gave me my voice and not the senator from Hawaii. And I chose to use it in a fashion that I thought I said I think what a lot of people were thinking. And Senator Collins gave the best explanation why a reasonable person would vote for Judge Kavanaugh. And we're going to take this to the ballot box 29 days now from. You got a decision to make America. Do you want to live in the world of Senator Hirono where you are guilty until proven innocent because you are a Republican? You don't have a presumption of innocence. Or do you want to live in the Susan Collins world where you will actually be heard and listened to and evaluated? HANNITY: You know, senator, I have been in this game -- I'm now starting my 23rd year at Fox tonight, and 30 years on radio. I'm kind of I've been pretty lucky. I'm waiting for any minute for all to come crashing down like everyone else. But I will say this. (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: You are good to go. You are good to go. HANNITY: When you look at the progress we made as a country, I haven't heard one idea from the other side that will improve the lives of the people that matter the most. GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: The people in South Carolina and the people in the rest of this country that are seeing the economy boom, our security get beefened up in ways we never imagined just two short years ago. GRAHAM: Well, there's two issues in this election. Everything else has gone by the way side. Are you OK with what they did to Kavanaugh? Is this the America you want to pass on to your children? We want women to be heard and respected. Dr. Ford was heard, she was respectfully treated. But we also want a constitutional process that protects all of us. Not just Republicans, not Democrat, but all of us. And here's the other question on the ballot. What do you have to lose? Well, I'll tell you what. If we lose, you got a lot to lose. You are going to have a smaller military, you are going to have a bigger government. You are going to have less money in your pocket. If they win you are going to have a bunch of people who are organized around the idea of hating Trump. So I would say there is a lot to lose if you turn over power to my Democratic colleagues. There is a lot to lose in this election. I hope you understand that. HANNITY: All right. Senator Lindsey Graham, I don't know if this would have happened without you. You did your -- your constituency in South Carolina-- GRAHAM: Thank you. HANNITY: -- you served them well, you served the country well. We are forever in your gratitude for that. Thank you, sir. All right. When we come back, a lot of breaking news on the deep state. We are going to have so much news this week, you're going to want to stay with us. I know what it is. I'm just not allowed to giveaway my sources. But we're going to give a preview of coming attractions. Alan Dershowitz, Gregg Jarrett, and Sara Carter, all coming up. We're glad you're with us on this busy Monday breaking news night. Stay with us. HANNITY: As I mentioned in my opening monologue, there is huge breaking news coming out this week. It is big news about the deep state. We have been right all along. And trust me, you would want to tune in to the show tomorrow, Wednesday in particular. But first Fox News' reporting. Quote, "Lawyer for Clinton campaign and the DNC gave FBI documents for Russia probe sources say." Meanwhile, The Hill's John Solomon out with a brand new piece entitled "FBI smoking gun. Redactions protected political embarrassment, not national security." Here with more, the author of the book New York Times bestseller "The Case Against Impeaching Trump," Harvard Law professor, Alan Dershowitz, as well as author of the bestselling book, "The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump," Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, and Fox News contributor Sara Carter, investigative reporter. Sara, we always start with you. Let's talk about the news to the extent you can. I know you know what I know. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. HANNITY: It will be big news tomorrow. Let's talk about that and the things that I just mentioned that we can talk about. CARTER: Yes. So coupled with information that was received last week from lawmakers, it was that closed door testimony, Sean, that James Baker, the former general counsel for the FBI. Remember, James Baker was a very close confidante of James Comey and worked very closely with former deputy director of the FBI Andrew McCabe. He gave what they are describing as explosive testimony. And it was. Part of the information that has also come out which you mentioned, Sean, was that Michael Sussman who was a lawyer for Perkins Coie, remember this was the law firm that the DNC and the Hillary Clinton campaign actually used to basically hire Fusion GPS. So they paid Perkins Coie. It was a cut out to hire Fusion GPS which then hired Christopher Steele to write the unverified dossier. Well, what they discovered was that Michael Sussman, according to James Baker, also met with James Baker. And he delivered information to him both on a hard drive and in hard copy about Russia hacking. He was also apparently delivered to him a version of the dossier. I think what was most explosive about this information that they got was the fact that Sussman himself who was working with Perkins Coie was actually passing information like a back channel very similar to Bruce Ohr to James Baker who then delivered it to the counterintelligence division. And part of the imagination that the DOJ and the FBI was actually trying to keep from the American people. They didn't want this information coming out because it would show-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And a lot of it withheld-- CARTER: Yes. HANNITY: -- yes, not to embarrass themselves what they would claim in the name of national security. CARTER: Absolutely. HANNITY: And also wasn't there an attempt here will there be evidence that show members of the upper echelon not rank and file-- CARTER: Yes. HANNITY: -- were involved in literally trying what, they wanted retribution for the firing of Comey, and it will be proved? CARTER: That's right. They wanted retribution for the firing of Comey. And I think the American people will be stunned tomorrow when the information comes out regarding members of the DOJ, a very high level official within the DOJ. HANNITY: Let me go to my friend Alan Dershowitz. Professor, I know you as a person. I know that politics isn't -- it's not bean ball. It's a blood sport. I accept it for what it is. You're in the public arena. All of us who are in the public arena we're all going to get hit, we're all going to get lied about. I know you have been lied about. I know I have been lied about. But what they did to Judge Kavanaugh, the Democratic Party systematically ignoring presumption of innocence and due process. I believe her but you don't -- you haven't even heard from the other side from the get-go. You're not that person. But that is your party. Reaction? ALAN DERSHOWITZ, PROFESSOR, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL: Well, I'm trying to change that party. I'm trying to make it into what it used to be when I was the national board member of the American Civil Liberties Union and we believed in the presumption of innocence. When I was a Harvard professor and we wouldn't deny a professor the right to teach based on these kind of allegations. I have a piece coming out tomorrow's Boston Globe railing against Harvard students who have employed McCarthyism to dissuade Justice Kavanaugh from teaching them. There's no other students who want to be taught by them. I'm going to continue to fight within the Democratic Party to make sure that they return to their original roots as a liberal, not a radical left wing party, a a party of civil libertarians. In the meantime I want to congratulate Justice Kavanaugh. I await his decisions. I am sure I'll disagree with some. I agree with some but that's the nature of the American constitutional system. And I'm deeply disappointed with the way that Democrats handled this much as I was deeply disappointed by the way the Republicans handled the Merrick Garland case. I think the American public suffers when we make these issues partisan instead of trying to pick the best possible justices who are going to serve for the next 20 or 30 years. HANNITY: Gregg Jarrett? GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Well, I want to go back to the deep state topic. James Baker has now implicated a great many people at the FBI and the Department of Justice in the illicit scheme to frame Donald Trump. He has essentially confessed that these people at the DOJ and the FBI handled the Trump-Russia investigation in an abnormal fashion and driven by political bias. He is also-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Do we have evidence of this? JARRETT: He's also lifted the veil of secrecy that it wasn't just a British spy on the Clinton payroll providing phony Russian evidence to the FBI but also a lawyer. And I think in the days ahead, as Sara Carter indicated, there is going to be much more information of an explosive nature about the effort to frame Trump. HANNITY: I'm going to give each you 15 seconds simple questions. Will the issues involving the abuse of power and the horrific treatment of Judge Kavanaugh eliminating due process, presumption of innocence impact the election in 29 days? Quick answer, Sara first. CARTER: Absolutely. I think both independents and Republicans as well as I think maybe some Democrats are going to get out there and vote. I don't think we've ever seen anything like this in history. I think this is really unified the base. HANNITY: Yes. CARTER: And I think people will get out there and vote. HANNITY: Let me ask, professor. DERSHOWITZ: If the Democrats persist in this foolishness of investigating Kavanaugh and moving for his impeachment the kind of vengeance did even investigations, Americans will not approve of that. And it will be another example the Democrats shooting themselves in the foot. HANNITY: Gregg Jarrett, last word? JARRETT: Polling data indicates already that the tactics that are so shameful have back fired on Democrats and special interests groups and those protestors. Republicans are highly motivated and galvanized to get out to vote. HANNITY: People should not be rewarded for this. And you know what? The last two years have been a dramatic improvement in the economy and security for this country. That should be on the ballot. All right. As we continue breaking news night. An exclusive interview with Laura Trump to be right here the crucial midterm elections the vile attacks against Senator Susan Collins and Brett Kavanaugh and his family as we continue. Stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Since her decisive vote to confirm Justice Kavanaugh, Senator Susan Collins of Maine has been facing fierce backlash, quote, "from feminist" and for not towing the political line. Some of this is beyond mean and despicable. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Many of your opponents are going to say she is pro- choice. She is pro-women's rights and she just sent a man accused of sexual assault to the Supreme Court of the United States. JEN PSAKI, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: That's political cowardice. That is somebody who is pretending to be a feminism. But that is fake feminism. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think a lot of women in this country is going to focus on Susan Collins. Here was a chance for one of the most powerful women in the country. She set herself up to be the single most powerful senator in this country by saying I'll tell you at three o'clock. And she came out and stood up there as a woman and say I believe the guy. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, it's got worsen. Joining us with reaction, senior advisor to the Donald Trump for president campaign and the president's daughter-in- law, Laura Trump is with us. Laura, good to see you. Thank you for being with us. It seems that there is a huge double standard. You've you been attacked. Ivanka has been attacked. Melania has been attacked and even the president's son who is 12 has been attacked. Then you have Sarah Sanders, Secretary Nielsen, Pam Bondi. People assaulted in restaurants. People get in their face. And then what they're saying about Susan Collins I don't understand how you can say you're a champion of women's rights and allow this to happen regularly. LAURA TRUMP, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S DAUGHTER-IN-LAW: Yes, it makes no sense, Sean. Actually if you want to see a real woman, if you want to see what real feminism is about, take a look at Senator Susan Collins. Here is a woman who went against the mob coming after her. Everyone telling her, she shouldn't do this from the left, from the media, and from Hollywood. She went with her gut and her heart and she made a decision on her own despite what all these people were telling her she should do. That is what a real woman is about to me. I commend her. Kudos to her. She finally did the right thing here. And yes, she sat herself up as the most powerful senator by making everybody wait until three o'clock. This is a smart woman and this is the definition of feminism in my opinion. HANNITY: The amount of fear mongering, though. I mean, I won't get into all the details. But there have been calls, I hope the most horrific violent act against a woman happens to you. And thousands of code hangers sent, threats to her office, threats to her. I mean, I'm watching this and I'm thinking there is a great hypocrisy. Because the very same people that were going after Brett Kavanaugh were silent about Bill Clinton, silent about Keith Ellison. What do you say about the double standard? TRUMP: There is a complete double standard. And you know what, people are paying attention to it. And I want to tell the American people out there if you think this is as ridiculous as the rest of us do, you have the choice in November to vote in the midterm elections and you better make sure you are voting for Trump supporting Republicans. Because we see how ridiculous the Democrats can be. They know no lows. They go low and we go high nonsense, I don't know where they toss that out the window if they ever actually believed that. We have an opportunity in November to keep the majority in the House and the Senate. And the most important thing that everyone could do that voted for Donald Trump. Because if you are happy with the direction of this country has gone under Donald Trump's leadership, you got to get out and vote in the mid-term. Otherwise these people are going to take control of things and we don't want to see that. HANNITY: Laura, I know -- we know their agenda, they're saying it. They want the tax cuts that have put of thousands of dollars in families pockets, they want the crumbs back. They call them crumbs at the time. They want to eliminate ICE, they want open borders, they want to keep Obamacare and they want to impeach your father-in- law. TRUMP: Yes. And they are running on socialism. That's their new platform running on socialism. It is a very scary thing. And you're completely right, Sean. Everyone out there should understand if the Democrats get control of the House and Senate, they will try to impeach this president, they will probably try to get rid of Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court. They will put a halt to everything good we've seen happen in this country in the year and a half that Donald Trump has become -- has been president. Everybody should take that very, very seriously. HANNITY: You know, people tend to stay home at midterm elections. TRUMP: Well, they better not this year. HANNITY: They better know. Twenty nine days from now. OK. Laura Trump, good to see you. Thank you as always for being with us. I saw a picture of your baby. The cutest kid on earth. Next time we'll show a picture to everybody. Thanks for being with us. When we come back, the president praising law enforcement and calling out the media for not standing up for the more often. By the way, he is right. We'll show you next. HANNITY: Today President Trump he met with members of law enforcement in Florida where he reminded them that although the media doesn't always recognize the good work police do and rush to judgment, and like Ferguson and Baltimore, we, the people, the American people appreciate it. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I don't think you understand one thing, how much our country loves you and the job you do. You don't hear it from them. (APPLAUSE) D. TRUMP: You don't hear from them. They don't tell you the real feelings. They don't tell you the true feeling but I know the true feeling. I know the true feeling. You don't hear it from the media, but I can tell you, I know the feeling. And these people, the people of our country love you. So I just want you to know it directly. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You know what, for all of you in law enforcement, the rank and file, FBI, CIA, or local law enforcement, you are heroes every night. All right. That's all the time we have left this evening. We'll always be fair and balance. Vote in 29 days. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura, how are you? Load-Date: October 9, 2018 End of Document Democrats are Doubling Down on Their Failure to Derail Kavanaugh and Still Learns Nothing, that It is Always the Rule of Law that Wins over Mob Rule; Justice Brett Kavanaugh Appointed to the Highest Court in the United States; Reaction to Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Examined; President Trump Speaks Publicly about Rod Rosenstein; Interview with Congressman Devin Nunes; Amazon Allows for Users to Make Contributions to Controversial Charity Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 8, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7570 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Monica Crowley Guests: Dave Bossie, Dave Goodfriend, Ken Starr, Mark Penn, Victor Davis Hanson, Devin Nunes, Raheem Kassam Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, that's all the time we have left this evening. We will always be fair and balanced. Vote in 29 days. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura, how are you? LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, you look like it's kind of like America's Most Wanted in that studio you are in. HANNITY: Well, do you know what happened? So, 10 minutes before airtime, all the lights blew up and so they put me in a studio. Those are actually really live people. It's not like a fake shot back there. INGRAHAM: I like that. HANNITY: And so they threw me in a studio I've never been in before. The prompter size is like two inches so I'm like ad-libbing every word in my monologue. I don't care. INGRAHAM: I couldn't tell. I said, where is Hannity? HANNITY: Thank you. INGRAHAM: -- it's like you're going to bring in like, they caught three murderers. It sounds like this is really exciting tonight. HANNITY: I'm going to come to Washington just to annoy you again probably next week. INGRAHAM: All right. Hannity, great show as always tonight. HANNITY: Have a good show. INGRAHAM: All right, welcome to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. I'm Laura Ingraham on a historic night in Washington. Brett Kavanaugh was sworn in at an extraordinary event at the White House tonight where Donald Trump offered these words to now Justice Kavanaugh. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: On behalf of our nation, I want to apologize to Brett and the entire Kavanaugh family for the terrible pain and suffering you have been forced to endure. Those who stepped forward to serve our country deserve a fair and dignified evaluation. Not a campaign of political and personal destruction based on lies and deception. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: If I had to guess, I would bet that Donald Trump wrote those lines himself -- just my guess. It was great. But the war isn't over. As the left fires off a new round of antics in the wake of his nomination, we have every angle covered with Ken Starr, Victor Davis Hanson. We got Dave Bossie, Devin Nunes -- a great lineup tonight. But first, the left's rage against the Trump machine, that is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. So far Democrats seem to have learned nothing from their futile battle against the Brett Kavanaugh's nomination. They put the country through three weeks of what basically amounted to a he said, she said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD, ACCUSER OF BRETT KAVANAUGH: I thought that Brett was accidentally going to kill me. BRETT KAVANAUGH, U.S. SUPREME COURT JUSTICE NOMINEE: I have never done this to her or to anyone. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: They used paid activist to corner senators. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are allowing someone who is unwilling to take responsibility for his own actions, to sit in the highest court of the country. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: Shame! Shame! Shame! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: They held still protest that ranged from in unhinged to downright pathetic. (END VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: We are! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: About to! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALEs: About to! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: March! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: March! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We need! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: We need! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everyone! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: Everyone! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: To pay! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: To pay! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Attention! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: Attention! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I'm not paying attention. Can Linda Sarsour learn some rhymes every now and then? All right. Well, they use their pals in the press to run with the most outlandish substantiated claims possible. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNBC SHOW HOST: The nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh plunges deeper into danger tonight over an allegation of sexual assault that leaves his confirmation in mortal jeopardy. LESTER HOLT, NBC NEWS HOST: A third allegation of sexual misconduct against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh surfaced today. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What we know about the allegations from the third accuser and the late breaking news of a fourth accuser. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She considers his own memories credible and she felt it was important that she tell her story before others did without her consent. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: But despite all their efforts, the emotional pleas and all the big money behind their smears, on Saturday afternoon, Kavanaugh was confirmed by the U.S. Senate. So after their spectacular flameout, what do the Democrats do in response? They double down on failure. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. JERRY NADLER (D), NEW YORK: If he is on the Supreme Court and the Senate hadn't investigated, then the House will have to. GEORGE STEPHANOPOULUS, ABC NEWS HOST: You will investigate? NADLER: We would have to investigate any credible allegations. SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: I'm totally focused with all the angry woman and the men who listen to women and support the credible accounts of sexual harassment and sexual assault which is a very underreported, but I'm focused like a laser beam on the elections. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: But there are signs that this angry gender politics game is just not working. A Marist poll last week found that there was virtually no vendor gap when it comes to Justice Brett Kavanaugh among either Republicans or Democrats. Eighty percent of Republican women have a favorable view of Kavanaugh with 81 percent of Republican men agreeing. And the Democratic side, men have a greater unfavorable view of Kavanaugh, 85 percent to 75 percent of women. Well, the struggle over Kavanaugh as we noted in THE ANGLE shortly after he was nominated was always going to be political. The Democrats were going to savage anyone Donald Trump nominated except maybe, if he re-nominated someone like Merrick Garland or something completely cuckoo like that. The perpetual rage against all things Trump also seems to intensify the more Trump accomplishes. And it's unrelated by the way to how optimistic and how confident American workers and consumers are about the economy. None of that even matters to the crazies on the left. Consider what the president, with the help of Mitch McConnell, has accomplished just on this very important issue of judicial nominations? Of course, two Supreme Court justices, 26 federal appellate court justices, and 41 federal district court judges. And by the way, they are just getting started. And of course, President Trump has chalked up so many other impressive wins, gets very little credit in the mainstream media for it. He successfully renegotiated NAFTA, forcing both Mexico and Canada to accept a deal that finally begins to treat American manufacturers and American workers fairly. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (PEOPLE CHANTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He has rolled back needless government regulations. By the way, for every new regulation, the Trump federal agency issued, they basically rescinded 22. The government estimates that the lifetime net cost savings of his deregulatory efforts is about $8.1 billion. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (PEOPLE CHANTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And Trump passed the largest tax cut in a generation, manufacturing jobs are back, the GDP is above 4 percent and we have the lowest unemployment in nearly 50 years. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (PEOPLE CHANTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Trump is taking on China for their years of cheating and stealing from the American workers and American businesses. And finally, we have an administration that recognizes the threat that this expansive communist regime poses to our own national and economic security. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (PEOPLE CHANTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Trump is transforming both the country and the Republican Party and not a moment too soon. Even the ranks of some of the never-Trumpers have dwindled and they grudgingly admit the genius and success of Donald Trump. The Kavanaugh struggle was a clarifying moment for the never-Trump crowd, like a political astringent. Brett Stevens, Hugh Hewitt and Erick Erickson all lined up behind the president in midst of the Kavanaugh fight, some more than others but nevertheless it's a big change. By the way, remember, this was Erick Erickson who was head of that red state website back in August of 2015. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ERICK ERICKSON, CONSERVATIVE RADIO HOST: I wanted to give the man a lot of latitude because I know he taps into some anger that even I share with the Republican Party, and a lot of us here do. But if our standard-bearer has to resort to that, we need a new standard-bearer. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And this is Erick Erickson to the "Washington Examiner" last week, quote, "For the first time I see myself voting for Trump in 2020. And it has a lot to do with Kavanaugh. He's not the only reason but he is definitely the straw that broke the camel's back." Is Erick calling himself a camel or is that the left? Anyway, I'm happy and I'm glad. Erick is a good guy. Of course, establishment figures such as Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham, John Cornyn, none of those guys wanted Trump to be the nominee. They've all really stepped up helping to push Kavanaugh over the confirmation finish line. Maybe, maybe they are closer all of them, to recognizing the time is up on the old GOP and Trump's policies are actually bearing fruit. All the excitement is with Trump, let's face it. All the momentum is with his ideas. There is too much on the line for intraparty squabbles any longer. And the choice for voters is now really simple. Mob rule or the rule of law? Perpetual rage or real results? Demonization, or due process? As an example, this is what the anti-Trump rage machine was up to over the weekend. Protesters in Portland blocked a major thoroughfare causing needless disruptions. When a driver dared to push through the blockade, this was the reaction of these open-minded and tolerant leftist. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (SCREAMING) (YELLING) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It's like a scene from "Homeland" or something from Benghazi. The far left, let's face it, is now running the Democratic asylum. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: The main base of the Democrats have shifted so far left that we will end up in Venezuela. This country will end up being Venezuela. I think a lot of Democrats are going to be voting Republican. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Tonight, I felt very privileged to be in attendance as former Justice Anthony Kennedy swore in our new justice in the Supreme Court, my friend of many, many years and one of America's finest legal minds, Brett Kavanaugh. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANTHONY KENNEDY, RETIRED SUPREME COURT JUSTICE: As associate justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. BRETT KAVANAUGH, ASSOCIATE JUSTICE, SUPREME COURT: As associate justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. KENNEDY: Under the constitution and laws of the United States. KAVANAUGH: Under the constitution and laws of the United States. KENNEDY: So help me god. KAVANAUGH: So help me god. (APPLAUSE) INGRAHAM: I mean, you could feel the excitement in that room and it was -- it was one of the amazing -- most amazing political moments I've been privileged to observe. Meanwhile, the haters on the left are swearing retribution and promising more mayhem. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL AVENATTI, LAWYER: So I say when they go low, we hit harder. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't put a liar on the court. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is your mind made up? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't put a liar on the court. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: They are for women, right? Women can be anything they want to be or think whatever they want to think? Don't believe that for a second. My friends, the choice is yours. It's coming up really soon, it's Election Day. And that is THE ANGLE. Joining me in studio here, Dave Bossie, is the president and chairman of Citizens United, Dave Goodfriend is a former Clinton aide and we are also joined by former solicitor general and former independent counsel, former federal appellate court judge, Ken Starr, author of the book, "Contempt: A Memoir of the Clinton Investigation." It's great to see all of you, Judge and David and David. David Goodfriend, let's start with you. So you heard my monologue. You got some angry people in your party. I mean, they are banging on the cars or cornering poor old Susan Collins, Jeff Flake turned into a puddle of goo in the elevator, is this a governing agenda, I don't get it? DAVID GOODFRIEND, FORMER CLINTON AIDE: Well, Laura, it didn't surprise me that you didn't show Ken Harbaugh, the former Navy pilot who is ahead in his race for the House in Ohio and you didn't show candidates from Kansas and Kentucky that are ahead in the polls. You didn't discuss the fact that this president has the lowest approval rating in modern history. I think we have to go -- INGRAHAM: We got the same as Obama, right in the same average. GOODFRIEND: It's actually quite low. And you didn't mention Laura, this is the most interesting point I want to focus on. Republican Bruce Mehlman, Ken's brother, Ken Melhman who ran the Republican Party. He came out with some data that everybody in Washington is talking about. It shows that for the first time ever, women in the United States now favor Democrats by a 25-point margin. So these are things that you didn't talk about in your stand up and I think it's important that you -- INGRAHAM: The independent women are a place where Republicans really got to work on, you are right on that. But I want to keep the conversation focused on just the moment we are in now. And Judge, I want to go to you before we go to Bossie. This is wild to see the federal courthouse or the Supreme Court descended upon -- protest is great, people get signs and they chant, that's fine. But to bang -- it's kind of funny to watch them like hopelessly clawing at the door, I mean, I don't know what they think they were doing. But there's something about cornering a woman in an elevator. If a conservative or series of conservative activists did this to a liberal senator, they would be having candlelight vigils for, you know, women against violence and intimidation. But this is now just accepted on the left. KEN STARR, PRESIDENT, STARR STRATEGIES: I hope not. Laura, I will say this, and watching this unfold, I thought the Bob Bork nomination was bad, and it was, the confirmation process? I thought the Clarence Thomas nomination process -- you clerked for the Justice. You know him to be a very good person. I thought that was really bad. But here's the good news. The Supreme Court is above all this. While we continue to fight it out as citizens, the Supreme Court is going to show I think beginning tomorrow morning an enormous amount of unity. Brett puts -- excuse me, Justice Kavanaugh puts it very well, we are a team. They may disagree with another. Remember Nino Scalia and Ruth Ginsburg, they would disagree but they would do so in a very disagreeable freeway, right. They talk to one another and they liked one another, and that's going to be a great -- INGRAHAM: Yes. That doesn't cut through in what we are saying with the claims the court will be illegitimate. I want to get to that in a moment. I want to play for you what -- and you were at the event with -- we sat next to each other, what am I talking about. We were sitting next to each other -- when Brett Kavanaugh got up and spoke. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KAVANAUGH: The Senate confirmation process was contentious and emotional. That process is over. My focus now is to be the best justice I can be. I take this office with gratitude and no bitterness. Every American can be assured that I will be an independent and impartial justice, devoted to equal justice under law. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I mean, he is a Bush guy. He's a Bush guy. I mean, I've known Brett for a long time. He's just one of the smartest people, one of the kindest people and I thought that statement was so lovely after everything that we've been through, as a country over the last three weeks. Yet the Eric Holder, tweet that came out, Bossie and I'll read it for you, "With the confirmation of Kavanaugh, the process which lead to it, the legitimacy of the Supreme Court can justifiably be questioned," the former attorney general of the United States. DAVE BOSSIE, PRESIDENT, CITIZENS UNITED: It's disgraceful. The entire process was disgraceful. What Justice Kavanaugh did tonight was exactly what someone in his position, anyone of any party should be doing, and that is, separating the politics from it and saying I am now a member of a team of nine and I am going to bring equal justice to all Americans based on the constitution. And that is something that I hope the left hears and they are trying to damage and delegitimize this court. INGRAHAM: David, I want to play for you something that Alan Dershowitz said on Fox today. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALAN DERSHOWITZ, HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR EMERITUS: I am particularly outraged at my colleagues and students at Harvard Law School. Those of them who have made it impossible for Kavanaugh to continue to teach there. It's rampant McCarthyism at its worse. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: David, he is a phenomenal professor. He is now a sitting Supreme Court justice. I shook hands with Elena Kagan today. I'm so impressed with her. I mean, I probably don't agree with a lot of her jurisprudence but she's a woman who has ascended to the highest court in the land with a lot of Republicans voting for Sotomayor and Kagan. What is this? What's happening? GOODFRIEND: Well, I worked with Elena Kagan, Justice Kagan in the White House and I agree, she's a phenomenal person. And she was the dean of the Harvard Law School when now Justice Kavanaugh was hired. INGRAHAM: He can't go there now. GOODFRIEND: I think that anytime -- INGRAHAM: He can't got to a university and speak. He cannot teach as a, you know, two or three classes at a law school today. You realize that, right? GOODFRIEND: Pepperdine might take him. STARR: Oh, gladly. GOODFRIEND: Pepperdine will probably take him. STARR: Absolutely. GOODFRIEND: I think the level of discourse in this country has gotten so acrimonious that it is hard for -- look, we are all sitting here having a civil conversation. It's getting harder to do that and that's a shame. I do think however that thou shall reap what thou does so. And I think that when you have a president who thrives on division, this is what he does best. He is a divider. INGRAHAM: Obama never divided -- GOODFRIEND: No, not at all. INGRAHAM: I thought it was more divided after eight years of Obama. GOODFRIEND: I think the popular vote speaks for itself in both instances and I think the rhetoric of both men speaks for itself. So look, you can throw barbs, I can throw barbs, we can talk about what started it. We can't deny where we are. And I do think that one of the ways we can come out of this is by focusing on problems that -- INGRAHAM: Why do you condemn (ph) -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Condemn what they did to Susan Collins because if a Republican journalist or conservative had done that to Mazie Hirono, they would never work again, literally would never work again. You know it. GOODFRIEND: Laura, I don't remember you saying that when people put racial epitaphs (ph) at African-American lawmakers who are casting a vote on the ACA standing right behind you at that Capitol. I don't remember you on Fox News presenting that at all. I don't remember you saying anything. INGRAHAM: First of all, we did talk about some of that I know was re- examined on whether it actually happened. (CROSSTALK) GOODFREIND: -- with those people -- INGRAHAM: No. GOODFRIEND: -- right now will condemn those people. INGRAHAM: Of course. And no one should ever scream -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Hold, I want to play something for the judge. This is Senator Cardin today speaking about whether this justice, Brett Kavanaugh, is inside the judicial mainstream judge. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. BEN CARDIN, (D) MARYLAND: I don't believe that Justice Kavanaugh is in the mainstream of judicial thought. Take a look at his decisions. There is a trend. Everyone of those decisions where he was in the minority or he was the deciding vote. It was on behalf of special interest, and behalf of the powerful against the individual. Consumer cases, environmental cases, labor cases, one after another. And then his response to Dr. Ford where he showed that he was not -- (END VIDEO CLIP) STARR: Political rhetoric. Judge Kavanaugh, now Justice Kavanaugh had an exemplary record. The fact that Justice Kagan recruited him to teach at the Harvard Law School tells us about all we need to know. Coupled with his record for 12 years, exemplary, frequently affirmed by the Supreme Court, his views vindicated, his views respected. I think what we have here is the senators have simply returned to the age of Bob Bork and the kinds of comments remain against Bob Bork who are terribly unfair and ill-founded. So, the good news again, Laura, the Supreme Court is going to rise above this. INGRAHAM: And they were all there tonight at the court. It was really nice to see -- STARR: That's very powerful. BOSSIE: It was an amazing night. President Trump's speech was remarkable. What he did for Justice Kavanaugh's children, and talking to them about their father being a kind and courageous man. It meant the world to Justice Kavanaugh I imagine but it meant a lot to -- INGRAHAM: Got to go. We got a hard break guys, fantastic panel. David Goodfriend we will get more of you next time. What we saw over the past few weeks offers a very clear lesson for the left. Resist the resistance, or lose. Mark Penn has the polls to show us. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (SCREAMING) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shut it down! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shut it down! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shut it down! (CHANTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was the so-called resistance reacting to Kavanaugh's confirmation vote this past week and that was after it occurred. No one told them they lost. Now, if the Kavanaugh battle made anything clear, is that you have to stand up to the mob. Imagine if Brett Kavanaugh just walked through that crowd, what they would have done? I think they would have ripped him from limb to limb. If you don't stand up to the mob they will walk all over you. My next guest says that if the left continues with these tactics, what you saw in the video, they may not get their big blue wave they are hoping for come November and worst. Joining me now with reaction, former Clinton advisor and Democratic pollster Mark Penn along with Monica Crowley from the London Center for Policy Research. Great to see both of you tonight. Now Mark, I want to start with you. We have actually seen some on the left claim that the party didn't really work hard enough to defeat Kavanaugh and, you know, is there any hope here for some calmer heads to prevail before the midterms? MARK PENN, DEMOCRATIC POLLSTER: I hope so. I mean, any postmortem of this will say did the resistance worked? No. The (inaudible) like Susan Collins and Lindsey Graham, they became antagonized and sided with Trump. If Democrats are going to win, they need to pull over the moderates. It's a moderate country and those are the people who decide Supreme Court nominations and elections. INGRAHAM: Mark, you've been around this town for a long time. I keep playing the video of them clawing at the door, because partly it's really funny. Second of all, it's kind of shocking. I clerked at the court, but there was always a sense of decorum. There were protest, it's fine (inaudible). But to actually be at the door of the court like with these frenzied reactions, I've never seen anything like that, never. PENN: Well, I'd like to see more Democrats upholding our institution at this critical period. Look, our country is all we have and the most important thing is to bring a sense of national unity when things are decided and I think more Democrats would do better taking that tactic after this vote than the opposite, both for the moral reason that it's the right thing to do and for the tactical reason it will get more votes. INGRAHAM: Monica, your favorite, Senator Mazie Hirono. I think it's great you are going to be her press secretary. She actually was out on the "State of the Union" on Sunday and was asked about this tactic of going to people's homes and protesting them there. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DANA BASH, CNN HOST: To run senators out of restaurants, go to their homes, is not going too far? HIRON: I think that it just means that there are lots of people who are very, very much motivated, by what is going on. This is what happens, you know, because when you look at white supremacists and all of that, this is what is coming forth in our country. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So Monica, basically she was saying, it's fine, read between the lines. She wasn't saying that scary stuff. She was essentially giving it a green light implicitly. MONICA CROWLEY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Right. And with the exception of Mark Penn and a handful of other responsible moderate centrists Democrats - - INGRAHAM: Joe Manchin. CROWLEY: -- the few that are left, there are no real responsible grown-ups in the Democratic Party to condemn this kind of thing. They are almost afraid to even if they want to because the party has been wholesale taken over by the left. The left is at war, Laura, and that is why they are constantly and immediately reaching for the most extreme, the most radical, the most violent in some cases because that's the only way that they can win this war. It's a war against the constitution, against free market economics, against individual liberty, against all the things for which Justice Kavanaugh is going to fight on the Supreme Court, therefore they had to destroy him. And when you would layer that on top of their absolute hatred for Donald Trump, this is why the left now and the Democratic Party and many in the media have been taken over and consumed and actually they're cannibalizing each other. INGRAHAM: Oh no. It's unlike anything I've ever seen. CROWLEY: Unlike anything we've ever seen including 1968, the Democratic National Convention in Chicago. INGRAHAM: Yes. Mark, you are a poll guy. I want to show this new poll out from CNN. This was a few days back. Approve or disapprove of how the Senate Dems are handling the confirmation vote, independents, 58 percent disapprove, 30 percent approve. Democrats, 67 percent approved, 26, and Republicans 87 disapprove. Tell me about what that might mean. That was last week. PENN: Well, look, I think it sys independents have reacted quite negatively to what they see as this food fight. Remember, Democrats were cruising here into a pretty safe victory. And now, the conservatives have really been energized in a way that really wasn't the case a week or two ago. Look, in the Harvard Harris poll 69 percent called these hearings a national disgrace. So you got to understand the public knows that there is something wrong and rotten here when they see these kinds of actions. Some people probably thought they were leftist. INGRAHAM: Well some people probably though or what left is and they thought it was a disgrace that Brett Kavanaugh is on the court. PENN: Look, there were people on both sides of this with really sincere views. But whenit gets distorted and when they see that the speeches are fake and when they see that in fact people aren't really sincere in reason the way Susan Collins was, we needed a Democratic Susan Collins. That's what would have won the day. INGRAHAM: Monica, when you think about people like that writer for Colbert who said, well, we might have lost -- I'm paraphrasing. I don't even know his name. But we might have lost, but at least we ruined Kavanaugh's life. Really? First of all, I thought you were supposed to be funny. You're not funny. You are tedious, and you character, or your boss lived a derivative lifestyle on TV for how long? That's the only reason he first go noticed. But what is that? That's really what you wake up and you're interested in doing, that is what the Democratic Party is today? CROWLEY: Actually, she gave up the game with that tweet. That was pretty well honest of what their whole objective was, it was to defeat him, and if they couldn't defeat him to ruin the man and try to ruin his reputation and derail. Look, the left is incapable of or unwilling to learn from history. Every time they go full radical like this they lose at the ballot box. Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Bush 43, and now Donald Trump have all been beneficiaries of the leftist mob, their tactics, and their intent to destroy everything that has made this country great, our very foundational principles. They refuse to learn, and they can't learn because they are at war, Laura, period. It's all about power and control. INGRAHAM: Again, there actually is a really interesting debate to be had, if people want to have it, on what to do about China. Like, what is our role vis-a-vis China? What are we going to do with NATO down the road? What about this $20 trillion of debt we have? Are we ever going to build the wall? What about immigration, millions and millions of people coming into the country over the last x number of years, how is that changing the country? Is it good, is it bad, do we want more? That's actually really interesting stuff. I love that kind of debate. This kind of stuff is just like eighth grade stuff. Anyway, guys, great segment, thank you so much, Monica, Mark. And in the wake of the Kavanaugh nomination, Democrats, as I said, are in full freak out mode from wanting to abolish the Electoral College to talk of court packing. The latest leftist madness, next. INGRAHAM: The anti-Trump Kavanaugh resistance looks a lot to me like a progressively debilitating mental disorder. I'm calling it PKCS, post Kavanaugh confirmation syndrome. And let's walk through the stages starting from the beginning. First, Linda Sarsour disrupted the first confirmation hearing. Then Brett Kavanaugh was accused of rape, then of flashing his private parts. Then accused basically of gang rape. Then Soros paid radicals cornered Jeff Flake in an elevator. And after a second hearing, Kavanaugh was then basically being accused of being an alcoholic and of having anger issues. And when all that failed, a mob of crazy-eyed protesters smashed and clawed at the Supreme Court doors and waved filthy signs. Once Kavanaugh was confirmed Democrats of course promised impeachment and to abandon the Electoral College, and, finally, to pack the court to offset the five conservatives on the bench. Joining us now with reaction to this tragic disorder, Victor Davis Hanson, senior fellow at the Hoover Institute and author of the book "The Case for Trump." Victor, you've been covering this, you've heard of inflammatory bowel disease. This is an inflammatory anti-Kavanaugh Trump madness, OK. And have Democrats in your mind in recent years, have they ever been this far left or this much unhinged? VICTOR DAVIS HANSON, HOOVER INSTITUTION: I don't think so. I think you can trace it from that period from 2009 to 16 when Obama promised them that a new demography, immigration, identity politics, the system was geared for that. He got elected twice. And then suddenly they woke up and said he's kind of a narcissist. We lost the state legislatures, governorships, House, Senate, now the presidency and Supreme Court. And out of that frustration they think big money. It's the party of the rich now, Silicon Valley, Wall Street, Hollywood, the Steyer brothers, maybe they will like that spectacle and they'll poor money in and we can win. And then some days they say we've got to import the tactics of the campus, so we have these upper middle class kids, identify politics, get in their face, mob them, dox them, shout them down, get rid of due process. And then sometimes they are frustrated in the system that used to be great between 2009 at 16, suddenly is antidemocratic. We need 10 senators from California, none from Wyoming, there are too few people there. Let's get rid of the Electoral College, or let's go back to 1869 before which we had different numbers of Supreme Court judges. So it's kind of frustrated, but it's kind of Nietzschean desire for power again, and they're frustrated because a lot of their dilemmas were self-inflicted. They were the ones who were turned off the middle class, independents, the white working class in swing states. They didn't have to do that. INGRAHAM: But what are they banking on? Victor, what are they banking on? HANSON: They got nothing and learned nothing. INGRAHAM: Yes, but what are they banking on? Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, is the new -- she's on the cover of all these magazines. She's a young woman, attractive woman. She was asked on MSNBC, what are you going to do basically once you get elected? This is the gibberish she said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALEXANDRA OCASIO-CORTEZ, (D) NEW YORK CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE: And what it is, it's really about organizing and really thinking about that word, organizing, segmenting people, being strategic in their actions in really bringing together a cohesive strategy of putting pressure on the chamber instead of only focusing on the pressures inside the chamber. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's a really interesting thought. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: My favorite, Victor, is that's a really interesting thought. I don't know what she's talking about. HANSON: I don't know. These are people who criticized Donald Trump and say he has the vocabulary of 1,500 words, but he's sophisticated and articulate compared to that. This is Boston University, what, fourth in her class. The point is when you go down the identity politics route and you start judging people by their ethnic background or their gender or their ideology rather than their talent or their wisdom or their character, that's what you get it. And it's kind of sad that the Democrats are going down this. These septuagenarians and octogenarians, Feinstein, Biden, Pelosi, they are so desperate to be hip and get back their party, so Joe Biden says he's going to beat Trump up outside of the locker room, or Feinstein has this Byzantine plot to undermine Kavanaugh with the Ford testimony. It's very pathetic that somebody hijacked their party and they are kind of deer in headlights. They don't know whether to be hip and go hard left or just suffer the irrelevance of being old and in the way. INGRAHAM: Victor, tonight at the White House, it was great to be there. A lot of old friends. Of course all the justices were there. There is a possibility, probably a pretty decent one that Donald Trump, obviously if he is reelected in 2020 he will have another Supreme Court opening. If Brett Kavanaugh who is a Bush appointee, Bush staff secretary, very mainstream person and judge, if he is subjected to this, can you imagine if Ruth Bader Ginsburg's seat suddenly is open, or she retired -- she says she won't -- but what will they do then? Bill Maher is saying that the president doesn't have a right to appoint anyone else, basically. HANSON: I think it was a very brilliant and underappreciated move by Trump, but by nominating Kavanaugh first he demonstrated that if you are a Bush-ite, you went to the right schools and you could be caricatured as a preppy, a mainstream blue stocking Republican, and they destroy you, think what they will do to the next appointee that is in further to the right? And then when she is nominated, they're going to say, he can just say look, it's not her, it's not anybody. It's just us. And we're either going to hang separates or hang together. So he's really destroyed the never- Trump movement because 90 percent of that small rubric of about 10 percent now say, you know what, I don't have any choice. It's either scratching on the Supreme Court door or Donald Trump, and I will take Donald Trump and the Republican. INGRAHAM: Victor, I will never get tired -- I'm never going to get tired of watching that video, I'm sorry. But there is something that's so poetic about that. And it's said, and it's infuriated. I'm sorry, I'm just going to take the humor out of this whole thing. Victor, thank you so much, great segment, as always. After meeting with Rod Rosenstein at Air Force One this morning, President Trump indicated he has no plans to fire him. Devin Nunes well react to that. Can't wait to hear what he has to say. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Thank you as well to our Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein for being here. Flew down together. The press wants to know, what did you talk about? (LAUGHTER) TRUMP: We had a very good talk, I will say. That became a very big story actually, folks. We had a good talk. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Boy, did that keep people guessing today. That was President Trump surprising a lot of folks with his new found support for Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the man overseeing the Robert Mueller probe. Joining us now to react is California Congressman and House Intel Committee Chair Devin Nunes. Congressman, thanks for being here tonight. What do you make of the president's comments on the deputy attorney general today? That was kind of interesting. REP. DEVIN NUNES, (R) HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: Look, I don't think any of us think that Rosenstein should be dismissed before the election. I think he does have to come in this week and answer whether or not he was willing to wear a wire or not, and whether or not he was looking at invoking the 25th Amendment. Those are key questions that he is going to answer before the Russia taskforce this week, supposedly on Thursday. INGRAHAM: Devin, the issue of this redacted series of documents regarding the Russia probe, people watching across the country are like, OK, you guys are always talking about this. Documents that are going to declassified and then they are not or they're partially declassified. And we talked about this a few weeks ago, and I'm still not following what happened. The deputy attorney general with a few others from the intel community convinced the president, correct me if I'm wrong, not to declassify documents about the FISA warrant against Carter Page and other renewals of that warrant and kicked it over to the inspector general, correct? What else do we know about this? NUNES: That's correct. And that's really my biggest problem with the Department of Justice and the FBI is every time we try to get something out of the public, they cry wolf, and they claim there's going to be national security implications. So the president was very clear and said that these documents needed to be immediately declassified without reductions. Then what happened is that a meeting occurred which you just referred to, and then suddenly the I.G. was brought in. Now my challenge with the I.G., I don't have anything against the I.G., the I.G. is probably a great guy. But we are Congress. We believe people have a right to know this information. It needs to be made public. It's not very much information. But we want the president to declassify it and the president has mentioned that he would. So this has now been I think two and a half or three weeks, so it doesn't take that long, Laura. You are only talking about 20 pages of a FISA and I think about a dozen FBI reports from none other than Bruce Ohr, whose wife Nellie Ohr, was working for the Clinton campaign, effectively, in helping to feed the information into the FBI. So, I just don't know what they are thinking here. The president I think, he's a smart guy, but he needs to be careful about who he listens to, I think, sometimes. INGRAHAM: Adam Schiff is all over this, as you might imagine. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF, (D) RANKING MEMBER, HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: The single act of using a never before House rule to selectively release classified information in the now infamous Nunes memorandum was a violation of everything that the committee has stood for. It was a naked politicization of intelligence, and a fraudulent one at that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He's obviously not talking about a particular issue, but just making a personal, basically, about you. I know you are used to this and you're running for reelection, and the Democrats are going to make you out be to be the boogeyman here, but at this point it seems to me that Americans have the right to know what the heck happened and why an American citizen was spied upon using documents that we are created at the funding of the president's opponent during the campaign. NUNES: So remember, the entire Democratic Party, OK, and the media, their friends in the media, which is pretty much all of them, except for 10 percent, and all the bad people from the Clinton administration were funneling this stuff in the FBI. You've got a dozen people now at the FBI and DOJ who are gone. So everything that we did on our committee we had to do. We had to make sure the American public knew that this information about what somebody was doing to basically set up a campaign and accuse them of colluding with Russians was really wrong. And we have now proven that the only collision that happened was collision with the Democrats and the Clinton campaign and the Russians. And I will tell you, I still want to know why nobody is investigating what Russians were, the Democrats and the Clinton campaign, talking to through Fusion GPS, and feeding that information into the FBI. And now we know that broke last week, and you kind of alluded to it earlier, Laura, that the top lawyer -- INGRAHAM: James Baker. NUNES: For the FBI, Comey's lawyer, James Baker, was meeting with a top lawyer from the DNC. And, I'm sorry, that just doesn't smell good to me. INGRAHAM: Yes. As a lawyer for the FBI, you can't be having political -- or meetings that even have the appearance of being political in the middle of this type of investigation. Devin Nunes, thanks for taking some time tonight. We really appreciate it, and I know we will check back with you soon. And coming up, Amazon, the head and owner, of course, of "The Washington Post," Jeff Bezos, has endorsed some puzzling charities, believe it or not, with ties to Islamic extremism. We're going to reveal the startling discovery coming up next. INGRAHAM: Jeff Bezos has led his company to support some pretty controversial charities lately. At least two of the charities listed by Amazon as eligible for donations were backed by Haitham al-Haddad, a controversial British imam. His teachers include beliefs such as men should not be questions for beating their wives, nice, and that punishment for adultery should be stoning. Raheem Kassam is the author and former chief advisor of U.K. Independence Party leader Nigel Farage. Raheem, what the heck is going on here? RAHEEM KASSAM, FORMER CHIEF ADVISOR TO NIGEL FARAGE: So Haitham al-Haddad has been on the radical Islamist scene in the United Kingdom for many years now, at least 10 years worth of these controversial statements, calling some Jews apes and pigs, saying that men don't need to explain about why they beat their wives, supporting female genital mutilation, so on and so forth. And what Amazon has done is it has decided to do the charitable thing where you can top up for charity whatever you purchase on Amazon, a percentage will go to these charities, but they relied on the government's charity regulator in the U.K. to pass muster for these things. So you have big corporate and big government, and they can't get things right. Where have we heard that before? INGRAHAM: So wait, so they support -- so this Haitham al-Haddad, how is he on the government's list? Just because it's the way the government is? KASSAM: I don't know if you've been over to London. INGRAHAM: Yes, I have. Of course. KASSAM: The British government isn't exactly hot on tackling radical Islam unfortunately. And here's what I want to know. Given what he said about female genital mutilation, given what he said about women being beaten, so and so forth, why aren't the types of women who are banging on the doors of the Supreme Court today banging on Amazon's doors saying why are you supporting this guy, why are you giving money to a radical Islamist cleric who wants women's clitorises mutilated? It's extraordinary. It's disgusting. INGRAHAM: Amazon's statement today, the organizations in question are approved by the Charity Commission, as Raheem said, however, due to the serious nature of these concerns, we've referred these allegations to the commission and will be conducting a full review to ensure that they do not violate our policies. KASSAM: Right, right. INGRAHAM: What else is on the list of OK charities to donate to? KASSAM: How much money they have, they can't do this in-house, they can't vet these charities? It's extraordinary. They paid $15 million of tax on a $17 billion income last year and they can't afford to do this. INGRAHAM: Raheem, thanks for this report. We have the last bite coming up. We'll be right back. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. It's time for the last bite. A beautiful line from President Trump tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It is up to us to renew the bonds of love, loyalty, and affection that link us all together as one great American family. Let us pray we are successful in this task, and let us pray that all of America's children will grow up in a country that is fair and just. Load-Date: October 9, 2018 End of Document The debate on Kavanaugh by the pundits and media on his confirmation, conduct, drinking habits and more; President Trump taunts Dr. Ford in a rally and the press slams the president for his actions; President Trump versus the press on answering questions on trade rather than on Brett Kavanaugh Fox News Network MEDIA BUZZ 11:00 AM EST October 7, 2018 Sunday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7957 words Byline: Howard Kurtz Guests: Mollie Hemingway; Susan Ferrechio; Philippe Reines Body HOWARD KURTZ, FOX NEWS SHOW HOST: On the buzz meter this Sunday, one of the ugliest brawls in the history of Washington isn't over. Brett Kavanaugh is now a Supreme Court justice but the hyper polarized media debate rages on. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) HOWARD FINEMAN, MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR: I think one reason that Brett Kavanaugh won this is that he became one political with Donald Trump. He was the aggrieved party last Thursday. He sounded like Donald Trump in robes. SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: They tried to ruin a man's life for political gain. It turned the confirmation process for the U.S. Supreme Court into a circus and something frankly befitting of a banana republic. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can (inaudible) a very long time Brett Kavanaugh is going to have an asterisk next to his name and any decision that he participates in. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Today, Kavanaugh avoided becoming a verb unlike Robert Bork before him, but he will likely carry an asterisk around with him for years. (END VIDEO CLIPS) KURTZ: Has the press been salting (ph) against Kavanaugh and in favor of Christine Blasey Ford? Has journalism have inflamed the passions? Have the media gone overboard in promoting the questionable claims of the second and third Kavanaugh accusers? Brett Kavanaugh writes a last-minute op-ed for the "Wall Treat Journal" (inaudible) he was too emotional in his often angry testimony of this as pundits keep punching away at that five-day probe by the FBI. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's doing this as a P.R. move to try to convince people that no, I'm actually not unhinged and I can control my temper. I'm not a part of (inaudible) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Besides being an obvious whitewash, the FBI's report does nothing to address concerns about Kavanaugh's misleading or outright false statements. JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC NEWS HOST: The media coverage of this has been so one-sided, it has been so biased. There has been the presumption from the very beginning that every single allegation made against the judge was true. (END VIDEO CLIPS) KURTZ: Plus, a wave of women from journalist to the White House, from Connie Cheung to Kellyanne Conway breaking their silence about past sexual assault, the impact on their lives and why they have forgotten most of the details. We'll talk to a reporter who went public. I'm Howard Kurtz and this is "MediaBuzz." The media drama went down to the wire. What we'll remember for decades is a raw, and emotional and excruciatingly personal battle over a Supreme Court seat that turned on conduct back in high school. The Senate confirmed Brett Kavanaugh yesterday by a 58-48 margin, but guess what? The political debate and the culture war is hardly over. Joining us now to analyze the coverage, Mollie Hemingway, senior editor of "The Federalist" and a Fox News contributor, Susan Ferrechio, chief congressional correspondent for the "Washington Examiner," and Philippe Reines, former State Department official under Hillary Clinton. Now, we're hearing a lot of talk about asterisks. "Washington Post" headline, "Senators Representing less than half the U.S. about to confirm a nominee opposed by most Americans. So now that Kavanaugh has been confirmed, the mainstream media seemed to be a bit deflated. HEMINGWAY: Well, I think they lost a battle and it was clear that they had taken sides in that battle. You saw a lot of people tweeting on social media or you could just read it in the coverage or watch it in our coverage. But they felt very strongly that Brett Kavanaugh should not be confirmed to the Supreme Court. It showed up in how they selected their stories, how they framed their stories, how they presented the issues. And I think that this was a loss for them. I even saw Jim Acosta, CNN reporter tweet something like, "Can't you all just win graciously?" KURTZ: Yes, here he tweeted and deleted, Jim Acosta, CNN White House correspondent, accuse the White House of bullying the press, "It's shameful. My goodness, can't you guys win gracefully? Does that mean that he and his side lot. HEMINGWAY: It's an admission that he had a side, and that is inappropriate for a journalist. But there is no question that so many journalists have picked a side and they are continuing to pick a side. KURTZ: Susan, on ABC this week, Jonathan Karl had said at first that this was a victory for President Trump and this was the first question that he asked Kellyanne Conway. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JONATHAN KARL, ABC NEWS HOS: How concerned are you that given all that went down and the way this went down, that Brett Kavanaugh will be seen as a tainted justice by roughly half of the country? KELLYANNE CONWAY, COUNSELOR TO PRESIDENT TRUMP: Justice Kavanaugh should not be seen as tainted. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: So, Kavanaugh won, Trump won and we are hearing words like tainted. SUSAN FERRECHIO, CHIEF CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT, WASHINGTON EXAMINER: It's a legitimate question. Look what he's just gone through. Look at the hearing, the emotions exposed, the charges maid against him, repeated in the press without a lot of, you know, verifying on the part of the media. It was slanted against him in the media. And he does walk away, fairly or not, Kavanaugh walks away tainted from this in the same way that Clarence Thomas did back when he was accused of sexual harassment during his nomination process. KURTZ: And that the allegation is sort of indelible. FERRECHIO: They just hang out there and people remember the headlines. They don't remember all the little details. KURTZ: Could the media and certainly aided by Democrats, having failed to corroborate the allegation by Christine Blasey Ford and the other accusers -- they moved the goal post by and last week, Philippe, making this about drinking and yearbook inscriptions and what was the meaning of the devil's triangle and all these things that might be seen as more minor points from decade ago. PHILIPPE REINES, FORMER STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: In don't think so. I mean, I think fundamentally this goes for every network including this network. This has been a very confusing and challenging issue for weeks now and I think what you are seeing with the media are two things. You are seeing the standard partisan reflection, which again is not specific to CNN or MSNBC. Someone could be watching now and confuse Mollie and Susan or Mollie and I have opinions, Susan doesn't, but someone might just conflate us. The clip you showed of CNN of the four people, I think all four were suppose to have opinions. But the second thing is that this has in some way made us back to a 50-50 nation which we haven't been since Election Day. It's been -- I know that sounds strange -- KURTZ: Did I miss something in the last -- REINES: well, no, because -- yes, because we have been more of a 55-45 or a 60-40 nation. And, you know, the searing moments of the last year and a half were the Charlottesville or Helsinki, who have actually brought together the people who were not for Trump. I think this is the first time we're seeing a legitimate coalition of Republicans even if they are not incredibly pro Trump. And I think that's what you're seeing in terms of the fever pitch. KURTZ: So, unprecedented for a Supreme Court nominee to write an op-ed piece as with Rupert Murdoch's "Wall Street Journal" where Kavanaugh said, "I was very emotional in his testimony more so than I've ever been. I might have been too emotional at times. I know my tone was sharp and I said a few things I should not have said." That suggests to me the criticism of the testimony about not having a judicial temperament really stunned. HEMINGWAY: Well, I think so, and also do I think it speaks to how the media covered this issue. When he gave that speech, I think for a lot of Americans, they heard this (inaudible) defense of the values of western civilization. When the media talked about it they said, oh my my he's very emotional that they called him a gang rapist. And so there was so much pressure against him being emotional in response to outlandish charges that were never proven and were never even provable. And I think that that framing of it led to things like this when I'm not sure that was entirely necessary. KURTZ: Well, Brett Kavanaugh also said things openly partisan things like this was the revenge of the Clintons. But let me ask you, are the media now shifting the debate? It's over. He's on the Supreme Court. He'll report for work Monday and we now just debate this, oh, he's going to be such a partisan justice. He's going to hurt the reputation of the court for decades. In other words, is this fight ever going to end? REINES: Well, I mean, to this day I guess we're 30 years close to later than Clarence Thomas and people put an asterisk next to his name, doesn't make a difference. KURTZ: Well, who gives the media the power to bestow asterisks when somebody has been legitimately nominated by the president and confirmed by the Senate? REINES: Well, if it your job for, you know, an official oversight, you know, extra constitutional, and if you see a justice doing something. Now, again, he sat here and I agree with Mollie. It's OK to be emotional. It's OK to be furious and frustrated. What he did from there is not OK, to blame the Clinton machine for this, for his interactions with those senators. That was someone who in the course of trying to prove he could not have done this actually showed the exact person that may have done this. KURTZ: So you think the media criticism over that was justified? REINES: Absolutely, because it was reflecting the criticism of people like me. I would be more happy with Amy Coney Barrett who was more conservative taking the seat tomorrow rather than Brett Kavanaugh solely because of that performance. KURTZ: (Inaudible) how she might have gotten roughed up in a confirmation process, Susan. FERRECHIO: I would argue though that the reason he wrote that "Wall Street Journal" op-ed had lots to do with the opening part of his remarks so we can recall when he started out talking about his reputation and his family. I felt the "Wall Street Journal" argument that he made was really aimed at the second part that Philippe just mentioned, which is when he started to attacking the Democrats. That's when it undercut his temperament and what kind of justice he would be. I thought he wrote in defense of that, that he was going to be independent. That was to assure last minute doubters amongst Republicans and maybe Joe Manchin, to make sure that he looks impartial on the court. KURTZ: What about the partisan media split over this FBI investigation and President Trump eventually ordered, 10 people interviewed in total, didn't change anything. The optics were not great I think in terms of the agents not interviewing either Brett Kavanaugh or Christine Ford. But wasn't it all predictable and isn't the liberal and conservative media action predictable? If you want Kavanaugh, you like the FBI investigation, if you don't you save a chance. FERRECHIO: That's legitimate. I saw the fact that there was an argument over how thorough this investigation was. It's a legitimate thing for the media to cover. They left out a bunch of witnesses that was put forward by Blasey Ford and Ramirez. And on the opposite side, you know, you had the beginning of this where they said this going to be a limited scope and not a fishing exhibition. It just raise the question, how far should we go and looking into Kavanaugh. And that we're learning new things about thim of this, they said it would be a limited scope. Now that we are learning new things about him along the way, that was a legitimate thing. I thought the media was relatively fair in covering that aspect of it. KURTZ: So much passion ans sometimes ugly rhetoric on both sides. So for example, Fox fired contributor Kevin Jackson who has been on the air and called Kavanaugh accusers lying skanks. The network said that language was reprehensible. Have the media played an inflammatory role in what was already a raw and emotional debate that has deeply divided the country? HEMINGWAY: They put forth stories that have no corroboration and they used them to smear someone and put this asterisk by his name. People say, oh, there is an asterisk. That is there for a reason. They were unprovable and undisprovable allegations put forth. There was flood the zone media coverage and the overall effort was done to delegitimize someone. It reminds me very much of the Russia investigation that we also saw the media flood the zone and put forth stories that had no basis and facts, just to delegitimize a person. This is something that the media should not participate in. There is no daylight between Democratic partisan activity and media coverage, and that is deeply problematic. REINES: Well, I think Mollie just hit the nail on the head in terms of the FBI. For a year and a half, the FBI has been horrible, evil institution according to Donald Trump. He fired the director, he fired the deputy director. He wants a number of other people fired. They are the deep state. Suddenly, they are the most precious institution of all time. KURTZ: But what about Mollie's contention that there was no daylight between the Democrats who obviously were all geared up to protest, block, delay, do whatever they could to stop this nomination. And the media coverage of the allegations although, you know, once the democrats leaked Christine Blasey Ford's name to the press -- REINES: We don't know that. KURTZ: Well, we don't know who did it. REINES: OK. KURTZ: OK. I don't see how you could not cover that. But what about the notion they essentially, media and the Democrats were in cahoots here? REINES: I would say this. This comes down to he said-she said, but there is a difference in motivation. If you don't believe him, you are attributing certain understandable factors to that. Maybe he didn't remember. It was a long time ago. Maybe he was drinking. He wants the job. He's ashamed. If you don't believe her, you are saying this woman is just an outright liar. HEMINGWAY: No. In this country you are innocent until proven guilty and that is a very important value. You are not saying anything other than evidence must be provided before you can get someone. FERRECHIO: You know the meaning of this, because it was really interesting, very interesting, they left out covering the problems with her testimony, so it just made it look like she was 100 percent believable rather than looking at the facts laid the way we would if we covered a criminal case in court. We threw that aside and just said believable, believable, and then social media strung it all up and showed how there were big problems. And then RealClear Politics investigation all looked into the problems and gaps in her testimony that really called into question whether she was telling the truth or not or whether she was misremembering. Mainstream media did not cover that fairly or thoroughly and that was a big problem with this. REINES: To impugn her credibility, you have to say she was paid by Soros, that she worked for the Clintons. HEMINGWAY: It was to say she didn't provide any evidence to corroborate her accusations. And that is true -- REINES: She herself is a very compelling testimony. HEMINGWAY: You can believe it if you want, but people need evidence. KURTZ: I have got to get a break. Sorry guys. We'll try to continue this in the next segment. And ahead, a female journalist who are going public with painful stories, very painful stories of past sexual assault. When we come back, the media slamming the president for seeming to taunt Christine Blasey Ford. Is that fair? KURTZ: The press have actually been acknowledging that President Trump was unusually restrained in speaking respectfully about Christine Blasey Ford and her allegations of sexual assault when she was 15, until he unloaded at a rally. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: What neighborhood was it, and I don't know. Where is the house? I don't know. Upstairs, downstairs, where was it. I don't know, but I had one beer, that's the only thing I remember. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What the president did last night is sickening. Maybe we should only be surprised that it took him so long to do it. GREG GUTFELD, FOX NEWS SHOW HOST: The media is saying that Trump's comments about ford were mockery or an attack, are the same media who thought Matt Damon's ridiculing Kavanaugh was sparkling and brilliant and daring. JAKE TAPPER, CNN SHOW HOST: Now, we don't know if President Trump thinks it's useful to ridicule a woman claiming she was sexually assaulted or if he just did it because he thought it was fun. But let's take a moment to reflect that the president of the United States believes it's appropriate. There appears to be no bottom. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: You are mean, you are attacking victims, you don't have any empathy. No, he's making a series of common sense conclusions about Ford's very shaky claims and shifting accounts. (END VIDEO CLIPS) KURTZ: As we just shown Mollie, (inaudible) really have that the president over this appearing to taunt Christine Ford in that fashion and especially given that many sexual assault victims don't remember all the details of what happened. HEMINGWAY: Well, people kept saying in the media that he was taunting or he was mocking or he was ridiculing Christine Ford. What he was doing was pointing out what anybody could see when they watched her testimony, which is there were major holes, there were major flaws, there were contradictions. And I actually thought that a lot of the media should have been pointing this out themselves. And you didn't see this. You didn't see people going through and looking at her story which changed over time, multiple times. They never were able to corroborate any aspect of it. They spent all their time looking at ice throwing at parties and yearbook things. And they should have been actually doing what he did there. They should have been pointing out that she had flaws in her testimonies. KURTZ: Well, if you look at the transcript you could say yes, he's saying that if we're going to scrutinize, the media is going to -- the political system is going to scrutinize the nominee, let's look at the accuser, but the tone to me was unmistakably tone deaf. FERRECHIO: We knew it was about the tone and the problem with the tone and all the things you are saying, Mollie, absolutely 100 percent true about missing the fair coverage of problems in her testimony. Then he was speaking also to people who believe her and who also have had their own experiences. So, it looks as though he is mocking them personally. And that is one of the problems with President Trump and his tone when he addresses problems like this that people interpret it one way and it's harmful. Simply harmful. HEMINGWAY: He previously said he found her credible, which was much more than a lot of people thought when they first saw her testify. KURTZ: Right. And he can get some credit for that. FERRECHIO: It's reminiscent of when he was, remember he was mocking a "New York Times" reporter, and then you've explained that again. It just -- it doesn't sit well with a lot of people. KURTZ: The reporter with disability. The president telling Judge Janine I had to even the playing field when he did that. Sarah Sanders and other White House officials telling reporters, no, no, no he wasn't mocking her, he was just stating the facts. REINES: And Sarah Sanders was lying. I don't understand why Donald Trump - - KURTZ: Why do you call it a lie? She is defending her boss. REINES: Because -- OK, you want to defend you voice. I don't why you just can't say the president was making a point. And the point is what Mollie was saying. Mollie is conflating a legitimate conversation about this situation with Donald Trump just enjoying himself unnecessarily taunting someone. HEMINGWAY: I think there is a thing they said that's what -- KURTZ: Let u s let Mollie respond. HEMINGWAY: I think there is an issue where a lot of people don't understand Donald Trump's appeal. If he says the things -- REINES: I don't get it. HEMINGWAY: -- that you were not supposed to say. It was almost silly how much deference people provided to Dr. Ford given that she had no corroboration for her allegations. He's been told you are not allowed to say anything, you are not allowed to point out that there is no substantiation for her story. He went ahead and did it and I think a lot of Americans were thinking why aren't more people saying this. REINES: (Inaudible) appeal of it just because something is appealing to a crowd. HEMINGWAY: Well, you should be able to say true things. You should be able to say true things and not be condemned for it. REINES: I think there is a big gap between what he was doing and -- HEMINGWAY: He wasn't even using a mocking tone. REINES: If you think of Donald Trump wasn't mocking the reporter with a disability -- KURTZ: He was. (CROSSTALK) HEMINGWAY: Actually, this is a good opportunity to say that too. Donald Trump did that mocking of that reporter, which he has done with many people. It was portrayed in the media as if he was mocking a reporter because of his disabilities. He actually used that same mocking tone with three or four other people who do not share that disability, and that was a very good example of a media lie about something important. KURTZ: Let me use our last minute to ask you this question, Susan. There is a cultural debate here in the media (inaudible) in which the president is talking about it's a scary time for young men and they are in danger of having their lives ruined by uncorroborated allegations. What do you make, I mean, it's a fascinating debate being (inaudible) by everybody including the press. FERRECHIO: Yes. And we talked about this before in the show. It's again, another gap in the media coverage, which is the MeToo Movement and even prior that, on campuses with the sexual assault so-called epidemic, that there is a lack of due process. We have seen it with some high-profile cases and we've seen it in cases that aren't reported in the media but are reported on smaller blogs and things. And that has carried over into this where you have one person being accused and being found guilty before really any of the evidence is laid out. KURTZ: Well, that debate will continue obviously and what is interesting to me the mainstream media with the kind of (inaudible) Susan Collins for her 45 minutes speech in favor of Judge Kavanaugh, but very happy with Lisa Murkowski for voting against the judge. Ahead, Mika Brzezinski rips Kellyanne Conway for saying she is a sexual assault victim and then defending the president on Christine Ford. We will weigh in on that, but up next, the president pushes back on reporters trying to turn the presser on trade into a session of, of course, Brett Kavanaugh. KURTZ: President Trump got some grudging criticism from the press after striking a last minute trade deal with Canada to replace NAFTA. Even the "New York Times" acknowledged it was a win. So he staged a Rose Garden victory lap, took question on the agreement and then we saw him act like the reality show producer he once was. It began when he got into it with ABC's Cecilia Vega with a little swipe that the White House later inaccurately changed in the (inaudible). (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: OK, question? Yes, go ahead. Sure. She is shocked that I picked her. She's like in a state of shock. CECILA VEGA, ABC NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: I am not thinking -- TRUMP: That's OK, I know you are not thinking, you never do. VEGA: I'm sorry? TRUMP: No, go ahead. Go ahead. VEGA: In a tweet this weekend, Mr. President you said that it's incorrect to say you are limiting the scope of the FBI investigation. TRUMP: What is that have to do with trade? I don't mind answering the question, but you know, I'd like to do the trade questions. VEGA: It has to do with the other headline in the news which is the Kavanaugh nomination. TRUMP: I know, but how about talking about trade and then we'll get to that. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Of course the reporters were fare more interested in Kavanaugh but Trump handled this like a cable show. Hold on, hold on, we are still in the A block. Trade is the A block. We'll get to Kavanaugh, but that's the B block. I'm still doing trade. I'll tell you when. And he stuck to that with CNN's Kaitlan Collins. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KAITLAN COLLINS, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Now that you've been through several questions on trade I'd like to turn to Judge Kvanaugh -- TRUMP: Don't do that. Excuse me. Do you have a question on Trade? We'll do one or two more questions on trade. COLLINS: You answered several questions -- TRUMP: Don't do that. That's not nice. And besides, somebody is before you. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: So he actually made Kaitlan Collins pass the mic to another reporter even as he made a joke that people are falling asleep with trade and stayed with the topic until as promised, taking a number of questions about the Kavanaugh battle including from her. The "New York Times," ran a gargantuan piece (inaudible) printed today. Eight full pages of news -- look at this -- saying Donald Trump inherited far more money than he's admitted from his father, Fred Trump, the housing developer and that they at time committed tax fraud by hiding massive gifts through shell corporations. The president called it, "A very old, boring and often told hit piece on me -- boring is sort of his worst form of criticism -- but neither he nor the White House disputed a single fact. It was an impressive journalistic effort that included many confidential documents, but even the "Times" acknowledged that the IRS had never challenged the Trumps on any of this. And it's hardly shocking that rich people are very aggressive when it comes to minimizing their taxes. Coming up, the political comments for the "Washington Post" speaks out about a long ago sexual assault and she's got plenty of company now in the media, politics and entertainment. She'll be here, next. HOWARD KURTZ, MEDIA BUZZ, ANCHOR: As more female journalists are speaking out about past sexual assault including one of our next guests, the spotlight has also fallen on Kellyanne Conway, who last week told CNN's Jake Tapper that she, too, has been the victim of a sexual assault. But when the White House counselor defended the president's sharp words about Christine Blasey Ford, she drew a tougher view from one of her frequent critics, MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KELLYANNE CONWAY, COUNSELOR TO THE PRESIDENT: She has been treated like a Faberge egg by all of us beginning with me and the president, who is pointing out factual inconsistencies. MIKA BRZEZINSKI, MSNBC HOST: Tell us your story, who is your attacker, who broke the law, who hurt you. You were really uncomfortable just saying I am a victim of sexual assault. And you know what, I say that as a victim of sexual assault myself. So I want to ask, why can't you be the egg, Kellyanne, the Faberge egg, and tell your story? (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Joining us now to talk about the cultural debate surrounding women and sexual assault, Karen Tumulty, columnist for the Washington Post, a long-time reporter, and Emily Jashinsky, cultural editor at The Federal. So, Emily, Mika took a lot of heat from some other pundits over her sharp criticisms, some of it was based on kind of a distorted clip headline on media. Mika Brzezinski challenges Kellyanne Conway to reveal details of a very convenient sexual assault. Your take on the criticism? EMILY JASHINSKY, THE FEDERAL CULTURE EDITOR: You know, I think the criticism was deserved for the most of part. You can kind of follow her logic. What she's saying is that if you are going to cover for his president, you don't -- you can't use your sexual assault as a way to sort of enhance your coverage to give it more credibility than it is. KURTZ: How can Mika be saying that? She said that she was -- that Kellyanne says she was talking about the whole process of questioning Christine Ford. JASHINSKY: Yeah, she was also saying that if you're -- if she is being treated like a Faberge egg, then you should come forward, of course, and name your alleged attacker because it's so easy. And that's what she's saying. But at the same time, I think what people hate about where we are right now in this conversation about Me Too and sexual assault is the way it's gotten so politicized and nasty and personal. KURTZ: Right. JASHINSKY: And I do think Brzezinski was feeding on that. It was an unfortunate moment, I thought. KURTZ: Well, Karen, Mika Brzezinski, who is a fierce critic of Trump and her one-time friend Kellyanne Conway, back at Morning Joe, where she was a White House guest in about a year and a half, told me she would never push a woman to describe her sexual assault, or could give the details. But she was saying it's not easy to do it before the cameras. KAREN TUMULTY, WASHINGTON POST: And that's actually was how I heard it. And then, it's interesting though because the social media blowback started right away. And I think that Mika also recognized that she had not awarded this point the way she intended to. So she really -- she went back on the air, the same show within minutes, and I think made the point she was trying to make a little more clearly. KURTZ: Well, in our interview, Mike Brzezinski told me about the sexual assault. And I repeat this with her permission. She said this happened when she was 14, she was riding a horse in McClean, Virginia, and was attacked in the woods at gunpoint. The stranger pulled her off the horse, took off his pants, mauled her, pistol whipped her. As she was screaming, she end up covered in blood. Absolutely, a horrifying experience, but she understands that not everybody is comfortable talking about that. And, Karen, you went on Twitter this week, in the past week, and you disclosed for the first time an assault when you were a child. Explain. TUMULTY: Well -- and this was in -- a number of things going on here. It was a not -- because I wanted to weigh in whether or not Brett Kavanaugh had done the things that he was accused of, but president had raised the point, if this assault was as bad as Christine Ford said it was, surely, she would have told her as he puts it sort of sneeringly, her loving parents and there would have been a police report. KURTZ: Police, yes. TUMULTY: And that spawned a hashtag, you know, why I didn't report. And that for me really struck home. Not just in this context, but also in the context of the Catholic Church. I'm a Catholic. That you know why are these reports coming out now, so much -- so long after it happened? KURTZ: And so, explain for people who didn't read it what you... TUMULTY: Well, what happened to me when I was 9 years old, and I was at a birthday party, given Mika's experience, at a riding stable. The man who ran the stable sort of pulled me away from the little girls at the birthday party and molested me. This was something that even though my parents who were loving parents, I do not know that I could have come forward on this, if my parents were still alive. But even though they had had the conversation with me, I somehow thought that I must have done something wrong you know for this to have happened to me. So I kept that as my secret. And I have got to tell you, you know, 9-year-old Karen felt she couldn't tell anybody, 20-year-old Karen was very remorseful that I hadn't told anybody, because I realized, you know, a riding stable, those are full of little girls. If this man did this to me... KURTZ: You were on the stable? TUMULTY: Yes. He must have done it just so many other little girls. But again, it was just not something my 9-year- old brain could process. KURTZ: Right. TUMULTY: And so, when we have people as powerful as the president saying this can't be as bad as these women say it is because they didn't report it, I think it doesn't really understand what happened. KURTZ: Well, Emily, I want to play some sound for you because a number of women have written pieces in the air. Let's here some of that starting with long-time former CBS anchor Connie Chung. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CONNIE CHUNG, FORMER CBS ANCHOR: I, too, was sexually assaulted. Not 36 years ago, but about 50 years ago. The molester was our trusted family doctor. Am I sure who did it, oh, yes, 100 percent. KIRSTEN POWERS, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: I had internalized the idea that because I had gone the drunk, I kind of deserved what happened to me. And that it was somehow my fault. What happened to me was basically, I passed out, and somebody molested me. It wasn't really considered sexual assault at the time. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Kirsten Powers. And so, is it healthy for the debate that women are now talking about this very painful, what happened to them or do you think that some of these pieces and some of these confessions were an effort to turn public opinion against Brett Kavanaugh. JASHINSKY: Two things. KURTZ: OK. JASHINSKY: Not only is it healthy, but it's critical. This reminds me a lot of the first wave of Me Too last October, when we're hearing so many stories that took so many women. It took so much strength for so many women to share. And so, the prevalence of this problem is what was originally spotlighted by Me Too. And oh, my gosh, not only healthy, but critical. The second point, you know, I think every woman has a right to do what she wants to do with her own story. So I think there are a lot of -- you know, a lot of women who came forward probably don't support Brett Kavanaugh's nomination. I don't care because they have the right to say what they have to say, and use their story as they want to use it. That's perfectly fine. KURTZ: And, Karen, you made the point that you don't remember some of the details. And that's hardly unusual. And talk a little about the reaction you got on Twitter from other women who had experiences. TUMULTY: It was extraordinary a number of women who replied to my tweet saying oh, my gosh, almost the exact same thing happened to me, except it was my grandfather or it was an older man at a barn. It was astonishing. KURTZ: Some said they were 20, some said they were 15, some say were as young as 5. TUMULTY: Yes. KURTZ: Yeah. TUMULTY: And there were dozens of these reactions. And I think you know even here at Fox, Chris Wallace, talking about how he had these conversations with his own daughters for the first time. Even if -- even if you are a diligent parent, these things can happen to your children, to your young adults out there. And it's not an easy conversation to have. KURTZ: Yeah, which is why anybody who is willing to do it, and you told me even your own brother was shocked to hear this, after all these years. So, Karen Tumulty, thank you for sharing this story. Emily Jashinsky, thanks for being here as always. Next on Media Buzz, many in the media embrace the claims of the second and third Kavanaugh accusers, why new evidence suggests that may have been a mistake. KURTZ: The media gave kinds of attention to Julie Swetnick, who not coincidentally is Michael Avenatti's client when she made allegations about attending a whole series of high school parties were claimed Brett Kavanaugh was essentially complicit in gang rape. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can you describe to me what you saw him do? JULIE SWETNICK, KAVANAUGH ACCUSER: He was very aggressive, very sloppy, very sloppy drunk, very mean drunk. I saw him go up to girls and paw on them, try to get you know a little too handsy, touching them in private parts. I saw him try to shift clothing. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: A little too handsy. In other words, Swetnick backed off the gang rape insinuations. It is NBC's Kate Snow pointed out Swetnick originally said, she saw Kavanaugh spike the punch with drugs or alcohols at these parties. But in the interview, she just said, well, he was near the punch. Joining us now, Sarah Fisher, a media reporter for Axios. So why didn't NBC and other media outlets then ran story saying hey, Julie Swetnick is backing off her key allegations and she appears less credible? SARAH FISHER, AXIOS REPORTER: I don't think it was made clear enough by people who carry the story later on that her allegations were not the same as her written statement. Why didn't they do it? There seems to have been a media pile on every time this new allegation, all media want to claim around it was what does this mean, what does this mean for Kavanaugh. But instead, what they should be doing is acknowledging the fact that hey, this story might not be as credible as we might think it is. KURTZ: And so, it is something in context laws when just sound bytes are played and you don't have the case saying well, she did change her story, a couple of key elements. FISHER: That's right. When they first reported this on a show, she said, look, there are some big differences between her written statement and what she told me in this sit-down interview. And you can see in parts of the interview that she looks a little bit skeptical. When you take sound bytes from that interview, when you play them on other shows, they go on other networks, that context is lost. And so, you don't have the very important context that says look, this might not be as credible as it is when we played elsewhere. KURTZ: Yeah, I think the media were played by Michael Avenatti who didn't really answer many questions about it, and of course got 100,000 times more attention because of him. All right. So the New Yorker and Ronan Farrow ran that story on the second accuser, Deborah Ramirez, who said Kavanaugh exposed himself to her at a Yale party, even after she admitted she had gaps in her memory, she had to consult a lawyer, she wasn't sure then she was sure. And so, the only source -- other source that Ronan Farrow and Jane Meyer have is the second answer -- she heard this, about this, from someone else. In a follow-up piece, they named the Yale student was the secondary source, tracked down the classmate. This guy told him -- and that classmate said he had no memory of that incident. So what does that tell us about the piece? FISHER: I mean, it tells us that there that there is some credibility that can be walking with that original piece. If you're the New Yorker, this is a tough position. You want to make sure you're reporting anyone who is coming forward, you want to make sure you're getting that story out. But if you're not telling it in full context, well, the meaning of it is lost. And we're seeing now a lot of people looking back at the second story where they're saying, oh, we can't get in touch with the person who said they didn't remember. KURTZ: Yeah. FISHER: And it's really causing credibility problems for the first story. So the New Yorker is going to have -- you know, kind of find a way to tie this all together to give the due context that there might be some holes here. KURTZ: Yeah. I mean, I just think that while the New Yorker was transparent about the holes and the problems with this particular accuser in terms of her memory, I would question whether it should have been run at all. Obviously, this was ran under great pressure because Kavanaugh was on the verge of being confirmed. FISHER: Yeah. And that's one of the things we have to look all the time. Look, there is a flood effect here. So many news outlets want to get on top of the story, so they're eager to publish things out. But sometimes, you have to take a step back and say, it is even worth publishing. KURTZ: Yeah. New York Times has a huge amount of pressure, a story about a 1985 bar fight, in which Kavanaugh threw ice at a guy, starting a scuffle in which the guy was hospitalized, he was bleeding because a classmate threw a glass at him. Kavanaugh was questioned by police, but not further. Is this worthy of a new story? FISHER: Look, it might have been worthy of a new story, if it kind of demonstrates something about his character. He is going to be on the highest court of our country. So we need to know about his character. But it shouldn't have been... KURTZ: It was 33 years ago, it was a bar fight. Anyone that have ever been in a bar fight, therefore is disqualified? FISHER: No, it doesn't mean that, but I do think that anyone who wants to come forward with more stories that is going to tell a little bit more about his personality, I get that. What I don't get here is why you have opinion writers, somebody who has tweeted opinions about Brett Kavanaugh contributing to a new story. KURTZ: Well, let me explain that because the co-author on the story, it was a New York Times' news story, Emily Bazelon who is a liberal op-ed writer for the paper, she also works as a staffer in the magazine, she is a lecturer at Yale. She is very smart and she is very liberal, she doesn't make bones about that. And she had tweeted that she opposed the Kavanaugh nomination, this was so much earlier because he is fifth vote for a hard right turn on voting rights and so much more that would harm the democratic process. And let me just briefly the Times' statement, I have put it up at the screen. Emily Bazelon is a writer from the New York Times' magazine. As I have said, she occasionally writes op-ed in the opinion section. She is not a news reporter. Her role in the story was to help colleagues in newsroom, gather public documents, ran this base. In retrospect, editors should have used a newsroom reporter for that assignment. You think? FISHER: Absolutely. I mean, come on, there was never an incidence where someone from the opinion team should be contributing to news gathering stories on the news side. It's already really complicated enough for viewers to distinguish news from opinions in the digital age. This just makes it worse. KURTZ: Right. If you think that's a legitimate story reporting, personally, I think it was an effort to chip away Kavanaugh's credibility by showing he had a drinking problem. But then, have a reporter do it and not somebody who does opinions for a living. FISHER: Exactly right. And then, yeah, the bar fight, it could be question whether or not that's even worth the publishing to begin with. KURTZ: All right. No bar fight here. Sarah Fisher, thanks very much. Great to see you this Sunday. Still to come, leading conservatives complain of the Washington Post and one of its conservative columnists isn't -- well, conservative. Is this a bigger problem in the Trump era? That's next. KURTZ: Jennifer Rubin billed as a center right opinion columnist for the Washington Post is now featured as an MSNBC contributor whose views are strikingly anti-Trump. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JENNIFER RUBIN, WASHINGTON POST: Every president reminds me of someone. Ronald Reagan was dad, this guy reminds you of your abusive ex-husband. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: More than three dozen leaders on the writer urging the Post in a letter to stop labeling Rubin as a conservative because quote, it is nearly impossible to discern any conservatism in Rubin's contemporary writing. I went back with Mollie. So, why all of this attention, you were right about this -- to Jennifer Rubin, who cares what the Post calls her? MOLLIE HEMINGWAY, THE FEDERALIST: Well, I think when there is frustration that when there are almost no conservatives at the Washington Post that they would call someone like Jennifer Rubin a conservative, when at least for the last couple of years, she has reversed all of her former conservative positions whether it's her opposition to the Iran deal, her beliefs on whether Jerusalem should be recognized as the capital of Israel, with our embassy being there, Paris Climate accord, conservative justices. And Donald Trump has taken the position she used to hold, she has turned against them, because she is strenuously anti-Trump. That's fine. But to be bill her as a conservative or a center-right columnist when she is not, people find it very frustrating. KURTZ: Well, the Post gave me a statement saying it is committed to a variety of voices and opinions in sections. They've added people like Marc Theissen and Hugh Hewitt, and sometimes people from The Federalist, but didn't address. We questioned Jennifer Rubin, but she declined to comment. So let's broaden this. When you look at the Washington Post opinion pages, people like George Will, New York Times, Brett Stevens, David Brooks, smart people don't like the president. On MSNBC, Nicole Wallace and Joe Scarborough are anti-Trump, you have Hugh Hewitt, he is pro-Trump, he lost his show. Why is that -- what does it say about the way in which the opinion media deal with the conservative? HEMINGWAY: Right. Whether you are looking at newspapers, you're looking at TV shows, overwhelmingly, if someone is billed as a conservative contributor, they are never-Trump faction, which is important because that's almost not existent outside of the airwaves and outside of the newspapers. The vast majority of Republicans are supportive of President Trump. You know, 90 percent or more, he's one of the most of popular Republican president among Republicans in history. And you don't see that represented on the airwaves or in newspapers. KURTZ: Well, you are saying there are almost no serious conservatives in America who have a lot of serious columns on how Donald Trump has performed? HEMINGWAY: So according to the polls, Republican voters are overwhelmingly happy with Donald Trump. You don't see that reflected in a lot of the conversation and analysis. And you see a predominance of never-Trump conservatives. Even on this network, you see way out-representing their actual numerical numbers. And you hear people say, oh, we just can't find anyone who is Trump supportive, who is a good writer. Well, that doesn't make sense on two accounts. One, you see a lot of the weak thinking and weak writing in the anti-Trump movement that does get published. And also, I publish hundreds of people all the time ranging from never-Trump to very-Trump supportive. They're strong writers and there are so many people you can pick and choose. KURTZ: Just to clarify, Jennifer Rubin on her Twitter page calls herself a conservative. You're not saying you can't be a conservative and also opposed Donald Trump? HEMINGWAY: No, there are certainly people who identify as conservative who oppose Donald Trump. And most of them you see on TV and newspapers at the Post. KURTZ: Why is there a gap? Why is there such a -- you would say, a misrepresentation of a chunk of conservative opinion through the media opinion outlets. HEMINGWAY: I think because most people are based in D.C. and New York, which is the headquarters of never- Trump conservatism. It's not represented in much of the rest of the country. It's overwhelmingly represented here. He's a very disruptive force, not just for D.C., but for the conservative movement as well. KURTZ: Mollie Hemingway, great to see you as always. Thanks for doing double duty today. And that is it for this edition of Media Buzz. I'm Howard Kurtz. Check out my new Podcast, Media Buzz Meter. Mollie comes on one day a week. We kick around today's five most important or fascinating stories. And you can subscribe, Apple iTunes, Google Play, and FoxNewsPodcast.com. Let's continue the conversation on Twitter @howardkurtz. And we hope you will like our Facebook page. I post my daily columns there and some original videos as well. The last few weeks on this program, I mean, it's been pretty raw. I'm pretty emotional as we, the media, the country had dealt with the Brett Kavanaugh nomination. I'm glad the battle is finally over, but as we have said earlier, it's actually not over in terms of media debate. Back here next Sunday, 11:00 Eastern, we'll see you then with the latest buzz. Load-Date: October 8, 2018 End of Document A Victory Of America's Bedrock Principles; Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 5, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 6815 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Tammy Bruce, Sara Carter, Jeanine Pirro, Ed Henry Guests: Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, Herman Cain Body A Victory Of America's Bedrock Principles; Sen. Susan Collins Delivers Historic Speech In Support Of Kavanaugh; The Left's Meltdown Over Kavanaugh; Interview With Senator Lindsey Graham Of South Carolina; Interview With Senator Ted Cruz Of Texas; Senator Ted Cruz Said The Behavior Of The Left Is Becoming So Extreme That They Are Losing The Decorum Of Being Human And Humane At The Same Time; The Speech That Senator Susan Collins Gave To The Senate Floor Gained Her A Tremendous Respect Not Just From Her Colleagues But From All Those Who Believe In The Rule Of Law In The United States Senate; Senator Joe Manchin, The Only Democrat Who Voted Yes In Favor Of Judge Brett Kavanaugh For The Supreme Court Seat; Members Of The Mainstream Media Together With Their Ally Democrats Are In Complete Meltdown After Hearing Senator Collins' Speech SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Welcome to HANNITY. And this is a Fox News alert. Due process, the presumption of innocence, the rule of law, common sense, are on the precipice of a monumental victory. But let us be clear tonight, this has been an extremely ugly, scary, frankly despicable 22 days. There is hope tonight, because today, in what became an extremely powerful and historic speech on the U.S. Senate floor, Susan Collins of Maine announced her support for Judge Brett Kavanaugh. But more importantly, it was her explanation of how she arrived at her decision that was so impressive. Senator Joe Manchin followed her lead. And now, Kavanaugh looks poised to be confirmed as the next U.S. Supreme Court justice. Now, coming up tonight, we're going to review how Senator Collins bravely restored sanity and order to the U.S. Senate. Meanwhile, predictably, the left in a full meltdown mode, and it is very ugly, they have been exposed. They tried to ruin a man's life for political gain. They turned the confirmation process with a U.S. Supreme Court into a circus, and something, frankly, befitting of a banana republic. And now, with just 32 days until the all-important midterm elections, it is time as a country, that we examine everything that is at stake for this great country of ours. This kind of lawless, shameful behavior, not only should it not be tolerated or accepted by we, the people, it's got to stop. And we could never forget how we now have a group of people that have embraced smear, slander, lies, bludgeoning to literally smashing and slashing all fundamental basic rights that have served us so well. All right. Sit tight, the weekend is almost here. Not yet. Kavanaugh's vote is tomorrow. And it is time for tonight's Friday breaking news, opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Before I get to the breaking news, and there is a lot, I want to take a minute, I want to say something. I have never witnessed a speech on the U.S. Senate floor that was as powerful as the speech today given by Senator Collins of Maine. Her remarks today, I have been in talk radio 30 years tomorrow, incidentally. I begin my 23rd year here at Fox News Channel. It was, frankly, the best speech I ever witnessed in the U.S. Senate. It was an example on how all senators should make decisions and conduct themselves. Senator Collins was methodical, thoughtful, respectful, clearly did her homework, laid out her judicial philosophy, that of Judge Kavanaugh. She showed a grasp of the Constitution, Supreme Court precedent, and she gave a chilling and sad description of the environment that we're all living in today. It was truly a modern day profile in courage. Frankly, I don't know Susan Collins, and I don't know her well at all, I don't get impressed that often. The speech today, it frankly blew me away. And she should be proud. And frankly, it had a lot less to do with her decision, although that's very important in all of this, than the pure human decency, fairness, and process that she employed to get to her decision. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. SUSAN COLLINS (R), MAINE: Today, we have come to the conclusion of a confirmation process that has become so dysfunctional, it looks more like a caricature of a gutter level political campaign than a solemn occasion. Judge Kavanaugh has received rave reviews for his 12-year track record as the judge, including for his judicial temperament. The American Bar Association gave him its highest possible rating. In evaluating any given claim of misconduct, we will be ill-served in the long run if we abandon the presumption of innocence and fairness. I listened carefully to Christine Blasey Ford's testimony before the Judiciary Committee. I found her testimony to be sincere, painful, and compelling. The four witnesses that she named could not corroborate any of the events of that evening gathering where she said the assault occurred. None of the individuals Professor Ford says were at the party has any recollection at all of that night. The facts presented do not mean that president -- that Professor Ford was not sexually assaulted that night or at some other time. But they do lead me to conclude that the allegation failed to meet the more likely than not standard. Therefore, I do not believe that these charges can barely prevent Judge Kavanaugh from serving on the court. Mr. President, I will vote to confirm Judge Kavanaugh. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I have not always agreed with Senator Collins. And even some things she said in her speech I disagree with in terms of precedents and the law. That's not the issue. She bravely restored common sense, decency to the U.S. Senate today and led by example. And she had to stand up to a very angry left wing mob, and she stood for principles that make this country great, showed real courage. Now, she took this process from the very beginning seriously. She protected the sanctity of the U.S. Constitution, due process, presumption of innocence. And in doing so, she exposed what is the hyper-partisan frankly destructive nature of so many smear merchants that exist on the left today. And, by the way, there are some on the right, too. Senator Lindsay Graham, who's going to be joining news a few minutes with Senator Ted Cruz, he also tonight deserved a lot of credit. His powerful moment, it lit a fire for truth, justice, and decency in this country. Many Democrats proclaim their opposition to Judge Kavanaugh within seconds of his nomination. Others upended these hearings with endless interruptions, grandstanding, the worst of the worst. And then worst of all, many Senate Democrats actually went along with accusing Brett Kavanaugh of even being a rapist, a gang rapist. No presumption of innocence at all. Drugging girls routinely at parties. They called him evil, compared him to Bill Cosby. Men were told to sit down and shut up. They did this with zero corroborating evidence. And based on 36-year old claims that were backed up by nobody. The Republicans took this rightly serious, it's a serious topic. Lawmakers, some of them, they didn't care. They wanted to ruin a man's life and his reputation forever. And I'm pretty certain tonight, Brett Kavanaugh, his wife, his two young daughters, I'm sure they'll never be the same again. We as a country could not reward this madness, meanness, insanity. Now, many on the left are lashing out at Senator Collins, predictably. An opinion website owned by Univision called Splinter, published a piece entitled "Bleep Susan Collins." It's all over the place. If you look, don't even read social media. You know, nut job, so-called comedy Kathy Griffin, you know, the one that had the severed head of Donald Trump, telling Collins to go to hell tonight. And the official Twitter of the Women's March published this picture, called Senator Susan Collins a, quote, rape apologist. This is so over the top, so, so despicably ugly and disgusting. Wouldn't many of these same people that claim to have a monopoly of compassion for women, minorities, human, civil rights, wouldn't they be showing outrage if any conservative in this country ever said and did such things? It's a very dangerous time for this country. Weeks prior to her speech, Susan Collins had left wing activists sending thousands of coat hangers to her office. They made threatening, derogatory calls to her staff. They tried to bribe her with a crowd funding campaign. And an angry mob of left wing protesters harassing senators all over Capitol Hill. This is now getting dangerous. Take a look. (VIDEO CLIP PLAYS) HANNITY: Now, let me say something, I believe that people should be close to their elected representatives. It's sad what I'm about to say. Before somebody gets hurt, or worse, these office areas of elected officials need to be closed to the public. Sad, but it needs to happen. This is now dangerous and out of control. And, of course, the left predictably, acting out in ways on TV that are frankly unconscionable -- many cases on so-called news networks. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When, not if, when Judge Kavanaugh helps them to chip away at civil rights, voting rights works men's rights, abortion rights, I don't think it's going to sit well with the country. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't forget these people would go to church and then go to the lynching after clothing themselves in morality. That's what we're seeing today. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Clearly, the Republicans don't care about the truth. They did one investigation into who Brett Kavanaugh really was, and that's what was gutless. But, unfortunately, we are where we are. This is a travesty for America. The problem with America right now is that we've lost the moral compass. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, for the last 22 days, we, Americans, we have witnessed what is an unrivalled insanity, of madness that's taken over. And it's now shaking the very core principles that every one of us, doesn't matter if politics, should be holding near and dear to our hearts. Rule of law, due process, presumption of innocence. And Democrats, well, are we going to reward this behavior? Shouldn't people be facing consequences for what is reckless actions? Senator Feinstein, she may be the subject of ethics probe, of who leaked Professor Ford's letter. Now, we're witness tampering investigation should take place after claims that one of Professor Ford's close friends, who she listed to corroborate her story, admitted to the FBI that she was being pressured into altering her statement? All of this aside, in 32 days, there is now, we've all learned something. There is something a lot more profound on the ballot than anybody is talking about or telling you. On the one side, we now have one party in America -- by the way, I want to purposely exclude Joe Manchin of West Virginia -- that had become a party, that has been overtaken by the far left. They don't even have room for Joe Lieberman in this party. Remember what they did to him in Connecticut. I've known Joe Lieberman for decades. One of the nicest people you'll ever meet. We have now witnessed in 22 days a party that clearly stands for a type of government that is alien to everything that this country we love was founded on. A party rejecting and simply just hating what we all thought we agreed on -- core basic fundamental principles, rejecting even our constitution, demanding full and complete conformity. You don't agree, God help you. A party of blatant double standards that can remain totally silent about gross allegations against Keith Ellison, Bill Clinton, they love the Clintons but pretend to care about being the champions of women's rights. Obviously, selective moral outrage. It's a party that envisions their ideology, an agenda, spread through the courts. They want activist judges, they want legislation that they could never get passed themselves done from the court. They don't want separation of powers, co-equal branches. This is what made this confirmation process so political. It shouldn't matter tonight, there is zero gloating here, or I wanted Brett Kavanaugh to win because I thought he deserved the position. And I thought I agree with his judicial philosophy. I don't care if you're a Republican, a Democrat, liberal, or conservative. What we have been watching the last 22 days in this country, this is not justice. In 32 days from now, human rights will be on the ballot, treating every American with fundamental fairness, respect, equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws. That is on the ballot in 32 days. You think of the sacrifice of our founders, our framers, in 32 days after what we have now lived through, this will be about affirming American history and values that they all thought, bled, died for, sacrificed for us. Due process, presumption of innocence, why is that ever political? Constitutional rights, civil liberties. In 32 days, you, we, the people have a choice to reaffirm these values, these principles that so many brave men and women fought, many died for. Those who understood the values of freedom and justice, made this country great and it has served us well. In 32 days, this election is about preserving all that is good and right and just in this country and taking a stand for future generations for our children, our grandchildren, because what we have witnessed unfold these last 22 days is absolutely the single most despicable display of guilt by accusation we have ever witnessed. In 32 days, this is also about your life. Right now, you ask yourselves, are you better off than you were two years ago? Because by every reportable objective discerning measure, this country is now in the middle of a recovery and boom that is the envy of the world. We learned today, unemployment in America, the rate dropped to the lowest point in nearly 50 years. 1969, the Mets won the World Series, it's now 3.7 percent. We learned that Hispanic unemployment matched the record low. Add to that, historic low for African-Americans, Asian-Americans, women in the workplace and youth unemployment. Record low unemployment now in 14 states. Look at manufacturing. Manufacturing is now near an all-time high. Four hundred thousand new manufacturing jobs, jobs that the last administration said were never coming back, consumer confidence at an all-time high. Four million of our fellow citizens, the forgotten men and women we talked about so much of in 2016, four million fewer on food stamps. Four million new jobs created. That's eight million Americans out of poverty. The promises of the president that he lists and he keeps, his tax cut, the largest in history, border wall construction, $3 billion already spent, he's keeping that promise. The promise on NAFTA, that we get better trade deals, pulling out of Obama's catastrophic Iranian deal. Look at the progress we've made on the Korean peninsula. I don't see missiles flying over Japan every other day. And, by the way, he's opened up what will be the might and prosperity for all of America that could literally help bring about more peace than we ever imagined. And that is, of course, the engine of our economy. We have more energy, natural gas, oil, and coal than all of these other countries combined. And for all of you never-Trump Republicans tonight, I have a message for you. You had your way, none of this would have happened. And by the way, I'm talking about you so-called conservative Republicans, who said I'll never vote for Trump. Well, you can't take your victory lap tonight. You know who you are. You are the ones out there podcasting, writing books that no one buys, self- promoting yourself as pro Trump, "Johnny come latelies, frankly, you owe real conservatives in this country an apology. Why? Because if you had your way, none of this would be happening. But tonight, as the horrific Kavanaugh confirmation process demonstrated, this election is about so much more than just undoing these incredible two years. I've said it before, I'll say it again. I'll shout it from the mountain top if I have to, the single most important midterm election in our lifetime. Joining us now, a man who deserved a lot of credit for this moment, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Senator, I'm happy -- SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Thank you. HANNITY: I'm happy about the success the country has had. You told me when I saw you in Washington, I said, what's Susan Collins like? I asked you the question. You said she is somebody that will look at every fact. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: Nobody will sway her, and she will decide -- I think that was the most powerful speech I've seen on the Senate floor. GRAHAM: Well, it's historic. It changed the trajectory of where we're headed in the Senate in terms of confirming judges. She adopted the rule of law, rejected the rule of the mob. If I had to tell somebody a good reason to vote for Judge Kavanaugh, I would ask them to look at Susan's speech. It was just incredible in detail, forcefully delivered. She didn't look like she was pained. She hated what happened to the process but she was confident that Judge Kavanaugh was the right guy at the right time. So, I think she saved the Senate and the Judiciary from sliding into the abyss. HANNITY: You know, Senator, I argue I don't think we would be here without your courage. But, no, I've known you a long time. And we've had our disagreements publicly and privately. GRAHAM: Yes, I'm sure we will again. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: Thanks, Senator. I can't wait for the next battle. GRAHAM: Me, too I'm getting tired of the lovefest crap. OK, keep going. HANNITY: There's a lot more on the ballot in 32 days as I've described. Am I wrong? I'm worried about what I've been witnessing. GRAHAM: OK. There's two choices, the Susan Collins way or the protester way. Who do you want to run the government? Conservatives aligned with Senator Collins, trying to work toward empowering people, making us safe, more money in your pocket. Or do you want to turn your government over to people who just yell and spit on you? To me, this is a really important time in American history. It's now all about Kavanaugh. Before, it was about a lot of things. Now, it's pretty simple. If you vote for the Democratic Party, you're turning your government over to people who follow you around, spit on you, try to intimidate you. If you keep the Republican Party in place, that means there will be an alliance between Susan Collins and others to keep us safe and make our lives better. That's a pretty simple choice. HANNITY: You know, Senator, I really believe this, after what we've witnessed now, and this has been building. You guys, you have to clear the halls, where your offices are. GRAHAM: Yes. I'm worried about my staff. HANNITY: I honestly fear somebody is going to get hurt here. GRAHAM: Yes, me too. I've never, you know, we've been -- you know, the one thing I like about Senator Collins, if you think can you change her mind by yelling at her and showing up at her house, you're dead wrong. Again, I just want to compliment her, for stopping what I thought was the closest thing to McCarthyism in my lifetime, that a man is guilty until proven innocent, facts don't matter, smearing him equates to him being disqualified. She stood pretty tall. The best thing that happened to a good man is for a strong woman to come to his aid. That's exactly -- Susan came to the aid of an independent judiciary tonight. HANNITY: Now, is it true that Senator Daines is going to be able to make it to walk his daughter down the aisle, you worked that out? GRAHAM: I think they have worked it out. I want him to be able to do both. But, you know, we're human beings is the point. We're not perfect. Judge Kavanaugh is a human being. And it's all going to turn out well. God bless Susan Collins and Jeff Flake. HANNITY: Honestly, those that food up for due process, those that stood up for the presumption of innocence, I thought would be something we all agree and apparently, I -- this is how bad it's gotten. Senator, you served your country well in this process. GRAHAM: Thank you. HANNITY: Thank you for all you did. GRAHAM: See you in November. Thank you. HANNITY: All right. A lot much more to get to. When we come back, Senator Ted Cruz will join us as breaking news night continues. We're glad you are with us. (COMEMRCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) COLLINS: Despite the turbulent, bitter fight surrounding his nomination, my fervent hope is that Brett Kavanaugh will work to lessen the divisions in the Supreme Court. So that we have far fewer 5-4 decisions, far fewer. And so, that public confidence, in our judiciary and our highest court, is restored. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: More Senator Susan Collins criticizing the partisanship throughout the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing, her hope that Justice Kavanaugh will restore confidence in our system. Here with more reaction to today's major breaking news, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. Senator, I know in 32 days, you're on the ballot. SEN. TED CRUZ (R), TEXAS: Yes. HANNITY: You're going up against, what's his name, Beto O'Rourke, who apparently become -- I keep reading a cult figure. In spite of some pretty awful things he's written about women, A, and apparently according to a police report, he got a DUI and lied about leaving the scene of an accident, according to the report. But how would he vote in the Senate, would he vote for Senator Schumer, would he have voted against Judge Kavanaugh? CRUZ: Beto O'Rourke is a hard no on Brett Kavanaugh. He was a hard no before these allegations. He's a hard no afterwards. He's running a had left campaign like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. And I think this Kavanaugh fight really underscores what the stakes are in U.S. Senate races across the country. Today was a very good day. Tomorrow, Judge Brett Kavanaugh is going to become Justice Brett Kavanaugh. But we won by the slimmest of margins. It's why this election matters. It's why it matters that we come out and stand up, because the smear campaign, we have seen, particularly in the last two weeks has been a new and disgraceful low for the United States Senate. And it's not acceptable to just go after and slander Judge Kavanaugh, slander his family, treat his kids to this kind of horrific abuse. It's not right. HANNITY: Senator, I live in New York, rough and tumble, of New York. Probably a little more street wise than I should be in life. But I'd rather live in Texas, because you pay no state income taxes. And New York state -- CRUZ: And we'd love to have you in Texas, Sean. HANNITY: Well, I just want to ask this. Look, you've been in rough and tumble races. CRUZ: Yes. HANNITY: You and the president have disagreements. But you have supported the agenda of the biggest tax cut, securing our borders. CRUZ: Absolutely. Yes. HANNITY: Conservative originalists on the Supreme Court. You are known for your knowledge of the Constitution. What do you make of the dangers, if this behavior were to be rewarded? CRUZ: Well, what we've seen in the last two years is the extreme left, is just filled with rage, they're filled with anger, they're filled with hatred for President Trump. And it's spilling out, it's spilling out in nasty and angry protests during the Kavanaugh hearing. The first day of the hearing, 70 people were arrested with the active complicity of Democratic senators. Just yesterday, 300 people were arrested at the Capitol. And we're seeing this anger, this bitterness. You know, this week, we had someone send white powder to our campaign office in Texas that ended up having HAZMAT and the FBI called in because the concern was that it was anthrax or something. It turned out to be negative. But we're in this environment where there's an anger, a rage, a fury, and it's wrong. It is wrong to just smear someone's character like they have done on to Judge Kavanaugh. And for that matter it's wrong to do what the Democrats did to out Dr. Ford. She asked that the allegations be kept confidential. And the congressional Democrats apparently didn't care, they outed her against her will. That is wrong. And we've got to find a way to disagree with each other but still engage with civility, treat each other with decency like human beings. HANNITY: You know, look, you were in a very tough primary with President Trump. It's not beanbags. CRUZ: Sure. HANNITY: You gave, took. And you said in a debate recently that at the end of the day, you were asked, well, why did you make the decision to go along with the president. And you said because I'm here to represent the people of Texas. CRUZ: Yes. HANNITY: It seems like that campaign, and I know the president is a disruptor, I know that he breaks a lot of dishes, but we see the results now, don't we. And you put the people of your state ahead. It did -- nothing ever has been this bad. I've never seen things this awful. CRUZ: The anger, the fury, the frankly threats of violence are really disturbing. HANNITY: Due process. CRUZ: Senators, who people are showing up at their house, who are threatening their family. I mean it's not good for the country. And you know, you look at this hearing, I mean, the basic principles of due process, as you said, the basic principles of the presumption of innocence, that you're innocent until proven guilty. You know, listen, once these allegations were made they were serious. They needed to be treated with respect. We needed to have a full and fair hearing, and we did. We needed to give Dr. Ford an opportunity to tell her story and treat her with respect and we did. But we also need-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But what's happening though, senator? CRUZ: -- to give Judge Kavanaugh an opportunity to defend himself. And he should have been treated with respect and he wasn't. The Democrats couldn't, instead, they did theatrics and mock outrage. That they were shocked. Shocked that actually teenagers drink in high school and college. Goodness gracious. And they were even more shocked that 17-year-olds say stupid things in their year books. I mean it was a ridiculous circus. And they were willing to smear a good man and his family simply for political ends. That's not America. That's not-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And no corroboration. CRUZ: That's exactly right. HANNITY: Senator, there was no corroboration. CRUZ: Yes. HANNITY: And may I ask you this. I watched you and I know your wife, Heidi, I watch you get run out of a restaurant. CRUZ: Yes. HANNITY: We've seen it happen to Secretary Nielsen. Pam Bondi it happened, to Sarah Sanders, Mitch McConnell. CRUZ: Yes. HANNITY: It's happening like on a daily basis. I don't think you should leave the halls of the Senate open. And I'm saying that for the safety, the protection of people we elect. I feel for everyone's safety at this moment. CRUZ: There are a lot of senators who are having that conversation. You know, Monday night, Heidi was up in D.C. And the two of us went out about 9 o'clock at night to do a date night, just the two of us, we don't get to do that very often. We showed up at a restaurant that we love. It's a delightful restaurant. Unfortunately, somehow the protesters were there waiting for us as we walked in, they surrounded us, they screamed at us, they basically shut down the restaurant and they made it impossible to have dinner. And so Heidi and I got up to leave, they blocked her from getting out. When we left the restaurant, you know, this actually has not been reported, but we left the restaurant, we went out the door and around the back alley. And this mob of about 15 screaming leftist protesters chased Heidi and me down the alley screaming and yelling at us. A waiter from the restaurant let us in the back door to the kitchen. And we took shelter in the kitchen with this screaming mob outside. Now, I tell you a happy ending to that, so about 10 minutes later the police arrived and they removed the protesters. And I asked Heidi, I said, OK. Well what do you want to do now? Do you want to go somewhere else? She said no. I like this restaurant, let's go have date night. So we went back through the kitchen, sat down at the same table and we had a delightful romantic dinner. Just the two of us. HANNITY: Good ending to the story. Senator, you've always stood up for the Constitution, these deeply held principle's of due process. And presumption of innocence. And your election is important in 32 days. We wish you all the best. Thanks for being with us. CRUZ: Thank you, Sean, and everyone come to TedCruz.org, stand with us, we're fighting for the country. HANNITY: When we come back, Democrats, members of the media that are complete meltdown after Senator Collins have her historic speech. We're going to play you the tape, get reaction from Tammy Bruce and Herman Cain. They're next. Stay with us. Busy breaking news on Friday night. HANNITY: All right. Almost immediately after Senator Susan Collins finished her historic speech today, members of the abusively biased news media, yes, the ones that hate Trump every second of every day, every minute of every day, every hour of every day, they began their freak-out, predictably. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Now we know, here yet another institution broken in the time of Trump, the Supreme Court. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Supreme Court is heading into a crisis of legitimacy. And when, when, not if, when Judge Kavanaugh helps them to chip away at civil rights, voting rights, women's rights, abortion rights, I don't think it's going to sit well with the country. He promised that he would be a hardcore partisan, and he will be. That's the one thing he didn't lie about under oath. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The message to survivors like Dr. Ford, is one, we don't want to hear from you. Two, if we have to hear from you because we're forced to, we're going to rig it so that there is no FBI investigation. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's not forget these people would go to church and then go to the lynching after clothing themselves in morality. And that's what we're seeing today. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Joining us now Fox News contributor Tammy Bruce, chairman of the America fighting back PAC, former presidential candidate himself, Herman Cain. Tammy, you have had such a powerful voice in this debate, it's been pretty amazing to watch your comments. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Thank you. HANNITY: Senator Murkowski said she will vote no on Kavanaugh, the appearance of impropriety has become avoidable. So if you make enough accusations, the one side can create enough fire, that's guilt-- BRUCE: Yes. HANNITY: -- there's no presumption of innocence. To me, that's scary to me that, logic. BRUCE: It should be. And it's unfortunate, you're right, Susan Collins' speech today, was wonderful, was surprising for me, a supporter of the president, and against the swamp. It's amazing to be supporting Susan Collins and Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell. But this is where recognizing the commitment to the values that make this country great, it's important. And I'm not saying Lisa Murkowski doesn't do that. But look, we're all individuals, we've all had a very different life experience. But it is a warning to every single American that these kinds of arguments will resonate with people for various reasons. And we've got to stay vigilant. We have dodged something here that is very important. But it's only the beginning, Sean. HANNITY: I agree. BRUCE: This as of now we've to look toward, in the aftermath, things like the American legacy media, it really is dead in a way. There's no -- there is no ability to report other news during this framework. HANNITY: Tammy-- BRUCE: They could only focus on Kavanaugh. HANNITY: I said journalism is dead back in 2007. BRUCE: If anyone doubted it, they've got their proof right now. And this is, you know, a very important thing that we -- I don't -- I don't -- at the midterms, they're key, but it continues. This is a reformation of the country. And while I would rather this didn't happen to the judge and to his family we must see this as an opportunity to continue on with the battles in front of us and we will prevail because it's the American way. HANNITY: I have -- every America should have a very bad taste in its mouth tonight, and there needs to be a hangover and moment of sobriety here. So we can begin the process of what do we want as a country. You know, Herman Cain, I remember when you were running for president, and I remember a whole series of accusation after another started flying after you, and I remember because I've known you for many years, you're a friend of mine, I remember saying I don't believe it. You didn't have the money to fight back, you bailed out of the race. (CROSSTALK) HERMAN CAIN, CHAIRMAN, AMERICA FIGHTING BACK PAC: It would have taken three-- HANNITY: After that day it all went away. CAIN: Yes. HANNITY: It was political-- CAIN: That's because-- HANNITY: -- nothing was said again that I've heard. CAIN: That's because I didn't have the money as you indicated, to basically file three lawsuits at the same time. And here's another thing to remember about what happened to me. Every week they drug out another accuser. And when we got to number three, I knew that the liberal media mob had already made up its mind. Susan Collins, I applaud what she did today on the floor of the United States Senate. She put the integrity of the Supreme Court and the integrity of the United States Senate above the liberal media mob. I applaud her for that. Mitch McConnell did the same thing. Lindsey Graham did the same thing, along with others. The liberal media mob has not won. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know-- CAIN: They didn't win today. HANNITY: I don't really know her. I disagreed with her a lot. I was surprised today. I saw somebody that, maybe I just didn't know the person, maybe I disagreed on politics, I saw something today that I think, it's a watershed moment for the country. BRUCE: Well, Sean, I've got a column coming out at Foxnews.com suggesting that with this experience, imagine what we can do if the establishment GOP puts down its fists and works with us to keep America great. Imagine being able to work together. You had George H -- George W. Bush and Condoleezza Rice calling senators to support Kavanaugh. HANNITY: Yes. BRUCE: We've seen this -- you know, it was enlightening and it was exciting and isn't it time that in looking to the future that we come together, and continue to work this way. HANNITY: Last word, Herman Cain. CAIN: Well, the liberal media mob, if things play out tomorrow, did not win. And that is a great thing for the United States of America. HANNITY: We better be, there's way too many people, though, that were willing to forego simple, basic, core fundamental principles of fairness-- CAIN: Yes. HANNITY: -- decency, due process, presumption of innocence. That ought to scare every American. And I hope they pay attention to that in 36 days. (CROSSTALK) BRUCE: This is just the beginning. HANNITY: All right. I agree. You're right. It is just the beginning. All right. When we come back, Judge Jeanine Pirro weighs in, and Sara Carter weighs in as we continue. Stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Here with more reaction to tonight's big breaking news, Fox News contributor Sara Carter and the author of the New York Times number one bestseller, "Liars, Leakers, and Lies" the host of Justice, Judge Jeanine Pirro. Sara, let e start with you in news, we have one senator Republican, Senator Daines, supposed to be walking his daughter down the aisle. But from what I understand, they have procedurally worked it out, Lisa Murkowski most present, that allows him to go vote assuming that everybody stays where they are, which I would assume is going to be the case? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes that, is the case, Sean. I think it's great news. You know, we understand how important this is, of course, he wants to walk his daughter down the aisle. But the vote is extraordinarily important and historical. And I think what we saw today was an extraordinary moment in history. One that we haven't really experienced. Particularly with Senator Collins' speech. So I think people are taking this very seriously. Tomorrow is another historical day. And I think the American people for once, right now, are unified behind the Kavanaugh, not everyone, but a lot of people believe that Judge Kavanaugh should be nominated. HANNITY: Judge, a lot of people, there's two stories that I like to tell you about. One, that I will never be able to tell about what a courageous human being that I know you to be. The other one is that, how you, as a prosecutor, you spent a career going after predators. There are evil people in the world. There are rapists, there are men that will drug women, abuse women, abuse children. This was your passion, for your time as a district attorney. And when you see, look at the story about, well, almost every weekend they would drug girls and line up in the halls, gang rape these girls. JEANINE PIRRO, FOX NEWS HOST: Gang rape them. HANNITY: And it gets repeated everywhere. (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: You know, Sean, I'm here in Washington, it was repeated everywhere, and it doesn't matter if it's true. But I'm here in Washington, and people have breathed a sigh of relief after hearing Senator Susan Collins and her reasons, deliberative, lucid, argument and rebuttal of everything that the Democrats, as I call them now demon rats, have been saying. In essence, what happened today and what will happen tomorrow, is that the United States Senate will stand up to Saul Alinsky hating, resisting, obstructing, gangs-like individuals who want to put a stop to our democracy. HANNITY: Hey, judge-- PIRRO: And just as Susan Collins did that, in November, Americans need to put a stop to this lunacy. HANNITY: We came this close to rewarding no due process. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: No presumption of innocence, no rule of law of which our great constitutional republic, it has served us so well. If that won the day, and it came close, scary to me. PIRRO: Very. And I still fear for the country, Sean. If we don't make sure that we vote, then there's going to be a problem. Sorry, Sara. HANNITY: Sara. CARTER: It's OK, Judge Jeanine, I agree with you wholeheartedly. It was scary. But something else came to mind today, Sean, to me. We live in a great nation. It didn't happen. And this is the reason why, people come from all over the world, to be a part of this great country because of our Constitution, because of what we stand for. And today our government showed that with methodical thinking, I mean, what Susan Collins did, Senator Collins, and how she laid out her argument, using historical precedents, and really looking at the facts, I'm calling it for what it is. This is an innocent man, this is an innocent man, and he was being framed to some extent by the Democratic Party, and we stood up to that. And as a nation I think we really superseded any of that fear. We've shown that we can do move forward. And I think that's what's important here. HANNITY: All right. By the way, Sara has, and John Solomon and others, all huge couple of breaking news stories next week, I can only mention that. CARTER: Right. HANNITY: It's going to be big. You want to tune in. Don't forget, Judge Jeanine Pirro, tomorrow night, 9 p.m. right here on the Fox News Channel. When we come back, Ed Henry will give us a live update on tomorrow's Senate vote, historic Senate vote. Straight ahead. HANNITY: Al right. Here now with an update, the latest reaction of Senator Collins' powerful speech on why she will vote to confirm Judge Kavanaugh, as well as what we should expect tomorrow, Fox News chief national correspondent Ed Henry. Well, one dad looks like he is going to be able walk his daughter down the aisle, that was in jeopardy for a while. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that's right, Sean. In fact, new tonight, Republican Lisa Murkowski a short time ago said she cannot get to yes on Kavanaugh but she will vote "present" tomorrow afternoon so that Republican Senator Daines, who is walking his daughter down the aisle in Montana like you said, does not have to race back to Washington and vote yes and cancel out any no vote by Murkowski. So, a show of comedy after a pretty ugly process. Neither vote though, in the end is going to matter. Judge Kavanaugh finally has the votes to become Justice Kavanaugh giving President Trump a major victory. Two pivotal votes turned on this, one Republican, one Democrat. The Republican you mentioned earlier, Susan Collins, she blistered the left for, in her words, "using Dr. Ford for their political purposes." The women's march is already attacking her. Former Obama aides say they are going to knock her out of office. The only Democrat voting yes is Joe Manchin, tough re-election in West Virginia where the president is very popular already facing the wrath of resistance. Donald Trump, Jr. tweeting tonight the fight is not over, Democrats already planning, he says, to try and impeach Justice Kavanaugh. So he is urging Republicans to turn out in the midterms to preserve the GOP majority in the Senate. There has been polls in some Fox polling and other polls a surge for Republicans in key Senate battles over the Kavanaugh issue. The final vote for Kavanaugh is expected tomorrow afternoon, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Ed Henry, in Washington, tonight, thank you. We have lot of breaking news we are going to be getting to next week, I can't give you even a preview of it now. But it's big news. Today was a victory, albeit by a slim margin, for very core fundamental principles. The rule of law, equal justice under the law, equal application of our law, due process, presumption of innocence. It's a big day, but considering so many don't support that, it scares me. Let not your heart be troubled. Ingraham is next with Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader. See you on Monday. Load-Date: October 6, 2018 End of Document The Democrats And Their Abandonment Of The Principle Of Due Process, Innocent Until Proven Guilty And Facts And The Use Of Emotional Extortion To Stop The Confirmation Of Brett Kavanaugh; Activist Involved In Every Anti-Kavanaugh Campaign Is Funded By A Soros-Backed Organization; Laura Ingraham Talks With Senate Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell On Kavanaugh's Confirmation, Murkowski Voting No, Susan Collins Voting Yes And The Assault On The Senate By Anti-Kavanaugh Supporters; Senate Preparing For Vote On Supreme Court Nomination Of Brett Kavanaugh; Protestors Demonstrating In Front Of Mitch McConnell's Residence; ACLU Releases Ad Critical of Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh; Interview with Diamond and Silk Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 5, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7583 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Michelle Malkin, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Medea Benjamin, Helgi Walker, Mitch McConnell, Michael Meyers, Will Jawando, Diamond, Silk Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: It's a big day, but considering so many don't support that, it scares me. Let not be heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is next with Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader. See you Monday. LAURA INGRAHAM FOX NEWS HOST: Hello, from Washington, I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. Tonight, Senator Susan Collins driving what could be the final nail in the coffin for the Democrat's resistance against Brett Kavanaugh. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell will join me exclusively in moments revealing what he said to Collins in today's lunch meeting just moments before she said yes to Kavanaugh. And amidst the Kavanaugh fight, the MeToo Movement is now hitting the board room. But not in the way that you might think. Raymond Arroyo is here with me from Friday Follies and you would want to stick around for diamond and silk. It's not Friday without diamond and silk. But first, the Democrats' phony victim play, that's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. The Democrats and many on the left worked around the clock to kill Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court. But I think they made a fatal miscalculation. They thought it was okay along the way to jettison the principle of due process, and to use victims to pursue a radical political agenda. And on the first year anniversary of the MeToo Movement, I think it's important to remember that this all started with liberal Democrat Harvey Weinstein, friend of Bill and Hillary, and of course Barack Obama. And remember he, the Hollywood mogul, big mega donor. I mean this guy is where it all happened. And remember, the abuse there started the cultural moment of MeToo. This notion of objectifying women and using them for the pleasure of the powerful has been long nurtured by the left. At the same time, it was also pro-women as we abuse women on the casting couch, et cetera. And entertainment industry had the target on its back. But now we see the same mentality at play in the Kavanaugh struggle. (Inaudible) claims to be defenders of women, the Democrats cynically and I think cruelly used Christine Ford in a desperate attempt to derail a Supreme Court nominee. Remember, she didn't initially want to come forward to tell her story. She was dragged into the open by political leaks to the "Washington Post" and other media outlets. And remember, reporters surrounded her home, and then she was forced to tell her story. And today, we learned of more dirty tricks from these activist lawyers behind the scenes. Remember Leland Keyser? She was the person who Ford claimed was at the party where Kavanaugh allegedly assaulted her, one of her close friends. Well, Keyser previously told the senate committee that she didn't know of such party, didn't even know Kavanaugh to begin with. Today, though, she told the "Wall Street Journal" that in -- and the FBI that a former agent, another friend of Christine Ford, Monica McLean, pressured her to change her account to corroborate Ford's account. Unbelievable. Well, in a speech announcing her decision to vote for Kavanaugh's confirmation today, Senator Susan Collins perfectly summed up the callousness of the Democrats. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. SUSAN COLLINS (R), MAINE: Some people who wanted to engineer the defeat of this nomination cared little, if at all, for her well being. Professor Ford testified that a limited number of people had access to her letter. Yet that letter found its way into the public domain. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And today, Dianne Feinstein left no doubt as to what this nasty senseless battle was really all about all along, the left's desire to use the Supreme Court to impose liberal social values on society. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (R), CALIFORNIA: Another issue that gives me great pause is Judge Kavanaugh's extreme view on guns, the challenging realities women face, Row v. Wade, what kind of medical care you can receive. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, this has been a problem for decades. The American left believes the court should be kind of a super legislature, a body that makes law rather than interprets law. Since Trump announced his candidacy to the presidency the left has been in perpetual rage mode. And of course this continued into the night. And it's going on go on for some time. And this is how they attempted to influence Susan Collins before she announced her vote. Check it out. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (INAUDIBLE) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't put a liar on the court! Don't put a liar on the court! (INAUDIBLE) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Ah, nice. And this is how they work their charms on Democrat Joe Manchin after he announced he was supporting Kavanaugh. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: Shame! Shame! Shame! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: At least it's a one-word chant, easy to follow. You know what is really shameful? Democrats who use victimhood as their defining principle. They'd rather have people dependent on government, helpless without it, especially certain groups, minorities, immigrants, and even women. We're supposed to believe that we can't survive and thrive without an activist court making up new rights, finding them in the constitution. And they demand that we believe anyone who claims victim status. We have to take them at their word regardless of where the facts lie. But for all of their screaming and their tiresome chanting, the left basically come up empty this time. Most Americans don't see themselves as victims. We're not powerless or weak. We're strong and independent. This was the Democrats' miscalculation. They thought emotional extortion and protester histrionics would be enough to block a well-qualified Supreme Court nominee. But once again, they let their rabid political ideology blind them to the fact that Americans are fair-minded, have a basic goodness about them, and they're optimistic about the future. They don't need an activist Supreme Court to see the light, to know where we are as a people, to see our future. And that's THE ANGLE. Joining me now is Code Pink's co-founder Medea Benjamin and former Kavanaugh colleague, Helgi Walker. She also served as associate counsel to President George W. Bush and clerked for Justice Thomas in the Supreme Court. Great to have you both on. Medea, do you deny that the left ended up sadly using Christine Ford as a political cudgel in this battle? MEDEA BENJAMIN, CODE PINK CO-FOUNDER: No, not at all. I think her story was important one to be heard. I think so many of these women who came in from around the country -- I was in Lisa Murkowski's office. I was in Senator Collins' office. They wanted to tell their stories. They wanted -- it's a flooding of emotion. And I think people need to hear these stories. I think it's unfortunate that it doesn't look like we're going to be able to -- INGRAHAM: So emotions trump fact? BENJAMIN: Emotions part of fact. Emotions -- INGRAHAM: Not necessarily. BENJAMIN: Yes, but I think in his case the opening of the possibility for women to tell their stories has been -- INGRAHAM: What's preventing -- I keep -- I'm sorry, but I keep hearing this, women can't tell their stories. Women are strong, more than half the population, I think mostly more than half of law school classes today. More than half of the university enrollment are women. This idea that women are these damsels in distress and we don't have a voice and we can't -- we can speak any time we want. BENJAMIN: Then you obviously have had the fortune, good fortune of not being molested at a young age. INGRAHAM: Medea, don't pull that card on me. What I'm saying is that the idea that women are damsels in distress and they need an activist Supreme Court to rescue them. BENJAMIN: Then you want to end the trauma of sexual assault -- INGRAHAM: Why did Christine Ford's name get outed? BENJAMIN: I don't know. INGRAHAM: Why did her name get outed? BENJAMIN: I don't know but it was outed and she had to stand -- INGRAHAM: She didn't want it to be outed. She was used. BENJAMIN: She wouldn't have come to Washington -- INGRAHAM: They used her. Did she look happy to be there, Medea? BENJAMIN: Obviously not -- INGRAHAM: She didn't want to be there. BENJAMIN: It's terrifying. INGRAHAM: They dragged her in there. They used her. BENJAMIN: -- let's say, Laura, can we agree on one thing. INGRAHAM: They used her. BENJAMIN: It is good that women are now coming out and telling their stories. Is that a positive thing? INGRAHAM: They used Christine Ford. BENJAMIN: I think it's a wonderful thing. INGRAHAM: They used her, and that was a sad thing to use her to try to kill this nomination. They abused her. HELGI WLKER, FORMER ASSOCIATE COUNSEL TO PRESIDENT BUSH 43: She did not want to be there and she made that clear in the first few minutes of her testimony. She never wanted a public hearing. And for some reason, I don't know why, she never even knew that Senator Grassley had offered that the judiciary committee staff could come to her in California or offered a private hearing. Did her lawyers not tell her that that was an option? INGRAHAM: What did they want Helgi? WALKER: They wanted a public spectacle and that's exactly what they got, Laura. INGRAHAM: They wanted a circus. They wanted to flood the Capitol with the victim's stories. They wanted to besiege senators in elevators and yell shame and spit in their faces and get a centimeter from people's faces like they're horrible people because they don't think you should jettison due process because you have an agenda to kill off a Supreme Court nominee. WALKER: Senator Collins said it best. INGRAHAM: I think it's insulting to -- WALKER: They did not care about Dr. Ford's feelings or well-being in the slightest bit. BENJAMIN: Of course they did. And they gave her an opportunity that she wanted and they've given women in general an opportunity. This is going to change history. It might not change who's on the Supreme Court but it's going to change the way parents bring up their sons, it's going to change the way young people relate to each other. It's going to change the way men act towards women. And that's a positive. INGRAHAM: This is a Woman's March tweet that went out today, Medea. I think we have it up on the screen. "Senator Susan Collins rape apologist." Do you agree with that tweet? BENJAMIN: I wouldn't say she's a rape apologist. I would say she didn't listen to the women who -- so, in such a heart-felt fashion came to tell her please, listen to survivors, believe women, believe Dr. Ford. INGRAHAM: Do you think all women, regardless of facts, years past, no contemporaneous corroboration, in fact, people that she claimed were in the room signed sworn statements saying I wasn't there, I don't even know Kavanaugh including her best friend. So despite that -- BENJAMIN: And she said she's 100 percent certain. INGRAHAM: OK, so all four people in the room are lying? BENJAMIN: Another thing that has really gotten to us a lot is the way that Brett Kavanaugh acted at that hearing. INGRAHAM: Oh, please. BENJAMIN: I think that's important. I don't want -- INGRAHAM: Oh, really? You ever been in a courtroom with a judge? I've been in a lot of courtroom. You don't know what judges are like. BENJAMIN: -- arrogant, petulant, sarcastic, mean, aggressive. I mean, even Judge John Paul Stevens, the retired justice, a life-long Republican after watching that said -- INGRAHAM: A lifelong liberal activist judge on bench. WALKER: If somebody flat-out lied about you on a national stage would you be upset? BENJAMIN: And I was going to be one of the nine people out of how many, 350 million people in the country that's going to sit on the Supreme Court? I would sit there and have a much more deferential attitude towards the senators. INGRAHAM: OK, first it was he was a rapist, and he was a gang rapist, and then he was, oh, he drank too much, and then that didn't work and then he's like, well, he was aggressive, like Corey Booker. Oh, please. BENJAMIN: Nasty, mean, sarcastic. INGRAHAM: Well guess what, 300 (inaudible) WALKER: Three hundred. INGRAHAM: Three hundred court opinions, overwhelming reaction by people on the left and right who appeared before him in 12 years on the federal bench, Medea. Twelve years. Not a day on the Senate Judiciary Committee but 12 years, have the utmost respect for his judicial temperament, reasoning and authority. And so the idea -- BENJAMIN: And they went up to the next level, which is to get on the Supreme Court and he failed the test. INGRAHAM: Oh really? It's called two words, Medea, life tenure. He's going to get confirmed tomorrow. OK, I want to play something for you. This is Susan Hennessey, and I just happened to catch this leaving my house today because I like to turn on other networks just to get some comedic relief. This is someone I've never heard of but her name is Susan Hennessey, and it was so unhinged on a Friday night, I thought I'd play it for you, Helgi. Let's watch. WALKER: OK. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SUSAN HENNESSEY, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY & LEGAL ANALYST: The extent to which Senator Grassley relies on women to do his dirty work to actually get the job done whenever he needs votes over the line, just speaks to how unbelievably tone deaf these individuals are. I do think that it touches into the same sort of incandescent rage that we are seeing in response to the Kavanaugh confirmation. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It's a big rephrase (ph), incandescent rage. OK, you got that and Grassley's relying on women to do his dirty work? WALKER: So, what does that mean? INGRAHAM: -- exclude women from the votes. WALKER: Susan Collins is controlled by Chuck Grassley. Susan Collins stood up and gave an incredible speech in the tradition of Senator Margaret Chase Smith. She spoke to reason, she spoke to facts, she gave a very principled explanation. INGRAHAM: Almost an hour. WALKER: And thank goodness, Laura, somebody broke through this morass and brought some common sense and some decency and maybe reset this process to something near -- INGRAHAM: Real quick. BENJAMIN: Well, here we see the difference because I thought Murkowski's speech was very heartfelt -- WALKER: Collins. BENJAMIN: -- deep, and very good. INGRAHAM: Oh my God. Are you kidding me? Murkowski said -- she lost me when she said, our role of advice and consent. It is advise and consent. I'm sorry, for you a senator, you don't know its advise and consent, sorry, you already lost me. BANJAMIN: She spoke from her heart. INGRAHAM: But Medea, you are like emotion and heart. I'm not saying it's not important. We all love good emotions. We love a good cry, we love a good laugh, but at some point, facts and a reason to have win out. I mean, in life they ultimately win out, do they not? BENJAMIN: And there was a doubt about whether he did this and so he should not be on the Supreme Court, period. INGRAHAM: I hope not you never are subjected to an accusation -- BENJAMIN: This is a job interview and he failed it. INGRAHAM: He actually didn't fail it because he's going to be confirmed on the Supreme Court. BENJAMIN: Well, he should've failed. INGRAHAM: OK. Well, that's a different way of scoring it. All right ladies, thank you very much for being here tonight, both of you. Madea and I go way back from the early 2000s on radio. It's great to see you. And it's no secret at this point that the grassroots protesters at the Capitol are often funded either directly or indirectly by some George Soros affiliated groups. Now, we've shown you the evidence of that, but for daring to raise this possibility, Senator Chuck Grassley was called an anti-Semite. A "New York Times" op-ed writer, David Leonhardt writes, "Let's be clear here, Charles Grassley is a United States Senator. He is responsible for his words. And his words here amount to an anti-Semitic smear." Michelle Malkin joins us now with reaction to the craziness and how it's crazy, kind of sometimes mob mentality seems to be taking over politics and certainly Capitol Hill. Michelle, did George Soros have any involvement in the funding of like this -- what is it, the Center for Popular Democracy, where the ladies cornered poor old Jeff Flake in the elevator (inaudible) and he looked very scared. MICHELLE MALKIN, CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR: Yes. INGRAHAM: Were they involved in this? MALKIN: Yes, the Center for Popular Democracy is aligned with George Soros' entire network and he is the sun in the center of a galaxy of these left wing resistance groups that have morphed over time, whether it was move-on or your previous guest, Madea Benjamin's Code Pink. Now, there's a new generation of these groups and CPD is one of them, along with Code Pink 2.0, ultraviolet (ph). And it is the protest orchestration I think that really needs to be investigated. Not only among the funders and the philanthropists that back these professional mobsters, but also the people that they were coordinating with within the Senate Judiciary Committee. It's still not has answered who gave the Senate gallery passes to people like Linda Sarsour and Piper Perabo and these others who from day one, second one, minute one of the hearings were enacting the plan that they have announced ever since Donald Trump won office. And I think that the Senate Democrat wrecking machine is not going to give up after Judge Kavanaugh is nominated and approved tomorrow. They're going to go on all the way through the midterms and 2020. And I think it behooves the right and the conservative movement, Laura, to make sure that we don't leave a vacuum in these spaces. INGRAHAM: Michelle, you took the words out of my mouth because you really have to hand it to the left's power to organize. I really give it to them because they bus people here, they put them up at, you know, local churches, they all, like print out the same glossy posters Kavanaugh -- that was actually kind of clever, I have to admit. But they get their word out. I mean, and they really did, I think, ultimately delay this vote for a week. They were ultimately not successful. But they dragged this thing out for another week. And, look, until the last vote is cast I'm just going to keep my fingers crossed. Anything can always happen. MALKIN: Same. INGRAHAM: They really need a taste tester tonight, don't you think Michelle, like everybody should have their food tasted. MALKIN: Yes. INGRAHAM: But they did have an effect and they are cowing some of these more moderate senators, although they ultimately voted for or they will vote for Kavanaugh. MALKIN: Yes. You know, we do need boots on the ground. There are millions of us women, for example, Laura, who feel the same way we do. And you voiced it well in that previous segment, who rely on facts and logic and who believe as I do that we need to believe evidence not gender as the default. And, you know, it is hard for these elected officials when they've got screaming, baying mobs of these feminist hounds and nobody on the other side to counter them. And I always hear, of course, from a lot of small business owners and parents and family members on the right, well, we have full time jobs so we can't be there. Obviously on Election Day they will have a voice, and a vote. But, you know, maybe it's time we pay full-time people to answer that and make sure that we are represented on the ground in the beltway because it's not going to stop. INGRAHAM: There are a lot of conservative businessmen making a ton of money in this economy, this Trump economy. They got to pony up money. I mean, the Democrats are doing it, (inaudible) doing it, registering hundreds of thousands of people to vote including young people, Puerto Rican voters moving to Florida. It's a big deal. It can't be all on you, Michelle, to pull us over the finish line, right. MALKIN: And I want to say one more part of the plan, which is I heard that you're going to move to Alaska and run for Senate against Murkowski. I'm going to move to Hawaii and run against that crazy Mazie Hirono, right. INGRAHAM: That would be fun. MALKIN: Although I'd rather be in Alaska than Hawaii. You want to trade? INGRAHAM: No, I'll do the fly fishing, you can do the surfing down there. All right, Michelle, thank you so much for joining us tonight. A historic night here in Washington, D.C. Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell is here next, exclusively with us, his reaction to today's events. And a look ahead to tomorrow's historic Kavanaugh vote. Stay right there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) COLLINS: As those who have known him best have attested. He has been an exemplary public servant, judge, teacher, coach, husband, and father. Mr. President, I will vote to confirm Judge Kavanaugh. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was Senator Susan Collins delivering a crushing blow to Democrats hoping for a last-minute defection. During her nearly one hour long speech earlier today, she echoed many of the sentiments offered on the Senate floor day after day by our next guest. We're happy to be joined exclusively tonight by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Senator McConnell, when did you know you had the votes? SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL, SENATE MAJORITY LEADER: When the roll was called. INGRAHAM: No, really? MCCONNELL: Yes. They were all very guarded about making an announcement. So this is one of those rare situations when you go into a vote, not really knowing for sure that you had them. INGRAHAM: Because you usually call cloture, you don't usually call cloture unless you know you have the ultimate votes, correct. MCCONNELL: We had to move on this. And this was not going to get any better if we didn't vote. I decided a week ago we were going to vote on Friday because we watched what was happening. Tthey were trying to destroy this good man with all these rumors and all the rest of the stuff so we need to have a vote in order to bring to it a conclusion. INGRAHAM: Why didn't Senator Murkowski ultimately go along? We got Flake and you got Collins with that long speech today. I mean she will impress a lot of people with her passion and her dedication, the advise and consent. What happened to Murkowski? MCCONNELL: Well, you know, I'd rather celebrate the victory. And I think there's plenty of credit to go around. President Trump for making great choices. Chairman Grassley for doing a heck of a good job in committee dealing with all of these outbursts, my members dealing with -- I mean we've been under assault, Laura. Our homes have been -- they've come to our homes. INGRAHAM: Yours was today, this morning. MCCONNELL: Yes, but not just me, everybody. I mean, they've been after all of us. We've sort of been under assault. And everybody decided to stand up to the mob. You know, they're not being intimidated by these people. I just couldn't be prouder of my members for refusing to roll over under all of this intense pressure, all of the lies. This is a great day for America. INGRAHAM: The senate is under siege, protesters don't seem to be letting up, even late in the afternoon into the evening tonight. Is this the new normal? And I want to play something. This is Senator Manchin. This was after the Collins speech today and after he said he would vote for Brett Kavanaugh. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: Look at us! Look at us! Look at us! Shame! Shame! Shame! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: A lot of my radio callers today said is this the way it's going to be? Is there going to be any changes to building access? You don't want to become cocoon but any changes to how you let people into the building? MCCONNELL: Well, I think security will take care of that. Look, I think the main point is the mob was not able to intimidate the Senate. We stood up to the mob, we did the right thing for a good man, fill a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court. There were a lot to celebrate today. I couldn't be prouder of all of my members. Senator Collins, outstanding. You had part of her speech in the entry. INGRAHAM: But the Democrats now have raised just during her speech, they raised almost $2 million on a GoFundMe page for an undetermined candidate and Susan Collins is apparently seriously entertaining -- Susan Rice, excuse me -- entertaining a challenge against Senator Collins in 2020. Your thoughts. MCCONNELL: Senator Collins will be well-funded, I can assure you. Look, there's a lot of enthusiasm on our side, too. You may or may not have noticed the rising enthusiasm among Republican voters. I think our people are going to be just as fired-up as theirs a month from now and everybody is going to remember what they did to Brett Kavanaugh. INGRAHAM: Is this the shot in the arm that the Republicans needed? MCCONNELL: Absolutely. Absolutely. It is a wakeup call to why it's important to hold the Senate. You know, the Senate is in the personnel business. I love the House but the Senate is in the personnel business. You want to get judges confirmed, cabinet members confirmed, boards and commissions confirmed, we have to control the Senate so the president's nominations can actually be confirmed and take the jobs. INGRAHAM: Do you intend to use this issue on the campaign trail for the last four weeks and what are you going to say about it? MCCONNELL: Absolutely. I'm going to remind everybody of the importance of the Senate, two Supreme Court appointments, 26 circuit judges, a record for the first two years. These are lifetime appointments with conservative men and women who believe that the job of a judge is to interpret the law as it's written. INGRAHAM: Well, what about repercussions for what happened during this process? I was here for Judge Bourque. I was a young speech writer in the Reagan administration. I was here for Justice Thomas obviously, but I think this actually rivaled both of those. MCCONNELL: I do, too. INGRAHAM: It was brutal. And Lindsay Graham was on with us last night and he talked about the need for repercussions against the wrong doers in this case. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), : I believe Dianne Feinstein didn't leak it but I don't know about her staff. I do know this, her staff recommended to Dr. Ford Ms. Katz who hates Trump, is a politically active leftist lawyer. INGRAHAM: So why not get the -- secure their e-mails and texts. Leaking confidential information. You're going to do that tonight. MCCONNE:: We're going after them. Here's what I'm going to do. Anybody who did this is going to pay a price. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Will they pay a price? MCCONNELL: I think it will be investigated. But, you know, it didn't work. I think the most important thing to note here is these tactics did not work. INGRAHAM: You want to go through this again. You want to pay -- people need to pay -- MCCONNELL: What I want these people to know, Laura, is we are prepared to go through it again. They are not going to intimidate us. They're not going to tell us how to vote. And they've actually, you know, they actually helped us win this vote. Their tactics actually helped us unify our people and win this vote. They're going to help us win a month from now on November 6, too. INGRAHAM: Do you think you'll pick up senate seats? MCCONNELL: I hope so. This underscores how important it is. We have a close margin. Very close margin. I'd like to have a few extra Republican senators. INGRAHAM: Let's talk about the media's role in all of this, amplifying charges. We had -- another point I want to play from Susan Collins when she talked about the rape rooms and these words that were being thrown around against this esteemed judge. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) COLLINS: The allegations that when he was a teenager judge Kavanaugh drugged multiple girls and used their weakened state to facilitate gang rape. This outlandish allegation was put forth without any credible supporting evidence and simply parroted public statements of others. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: including the media, a celebrity porn lawyer. MCCONNELL: I can remember when that sort of thing was not put on the air. People didn't just peddle nonsense with no corroboration. That really exacerbated the problem. And a lot of Senate Democrats would mainstream that stuff right into their discussions and try to convince everybody that it somehow happened. No corroboration at all. Just rumors. All over the place. INGRAHAM: Senator Merkley from Oregon was quite upset today. He said this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D) OREGON: Chuck Grassley, the chair of the committee, and Mitch McConnell, the majority leader. (BOOS) MERKLEY: They said there's no contemporaneous evidence to support the women who came forward. That is not true. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What are we missing here, senator? MCCONNELL: I don't know what he's talking about. There was no evidence to corroborate any of the allegations against Judge Kavanaugh. Maybe he's on a different planet. I'm not sure. INGRAHAM: Right now when you look back on this last couple of weeks, and you have had an incredible run of confirming circuit court judges and district court judges, but just this experience, lessons learned for the Republican Party, the Senate, maybe the president going forward? MCCONNELL: Well, I think we have reaffirmed that in this country you're presumed innocent, the presumption is in favor of innocence. We also relearned that you can't -- you should not allow mobs to intimidate you. And I think it's a good lesson for us. I think it unified our conference, made us excited about the November election, was good for the American people to see that these people were stood up to and they didn't get away with it. They did not win. That's the most important thing. INGRAHAM: How radical has the Democratic Party of today become? MCCONNELL: It's a pretty wild bunch. It's pretty clear they were willing to do anything, say anything, to try to win. There's no boundaries. INGRAHAM: Do you still have close friends in the Democratic caucus after all this, or are emotions pretty raw? MCCONNELL: I think we'll get past it in terms of relationships. But it was a tough period, a tough period. I hope they learned a lesson. You can do this kind of thing, but it doesn't necessarily get you to victory. INGRAHAM: Mitch McConnell, congratulations. MCCONNELL: Thank you, Laura. INGRAHAM: Thanks so much for being here. Ahead, Friday Follies with Raymond Arroyo, and the first story is connected to you, Senator McConnell. Anti- Kavanaugh protesters hold an impromptu kegger in front of your house this morning. That and a whole lot more on that important, very important night tonight in the history of our country. Stay there. INGRAHAM: It's Friday, which means it's time for -- (MUSIC) INGRAHAM: It's Friday Follies where protesters get creative outside Mitch McConnell's house, and sexual politics are taking over boardrooms and classrooms. For all the details, we're joined by Raymond Arroyo, Fox News contributor, comedian during breaks, and "New York Times" bestselling author of "The Will Wilder Series." Raymond, tell me about the early morning protests outside of McConnell's townhouse. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Imagine, it's 7:30 in the morning and you are awakened by a protest coming up the block. You can imagine Mitch McConnell, Elaine, what is that out there? And then he saw this. Watch? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CROWD: Chug, chug, chug, chug. I like beer! I like beer! I like beer! I like beer! (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: They were walking up the block saying chug, chug, chug, I like beer. This is like walking into the Pirates of the Caribbean in Oldtown. The poor man is surrounded by these drunken protestors. This is 7:30 in the morning, and they have Pabst Red Ribbon beer -- INGRAHAM: Red? Blue ribbon. A big beer drinker. ARROYO: I don't touch the stuff. INGRAHAM: If it's not Sazerac, Arroyo doesn't drink it. ARROYO: That's right. And they have the red solo cups. And they're saying I like beer, I like beer. Remember, Brett Kavanaugh at his hearing did mention this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUDGE BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT NOMINEE: We drank beer, my friends and I, boys and girls, yes, we drank beer. I liked beer. Still like beer. We drank beer. We like beer. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: My question is, I don't know what this protest is about, because if you don't like the guy why are you mimicking his words. Do you support him or not? INGRAHAM: It seems like any random morning on frat row at Dartmouth, this is what we were doing. ARROYO: It didn't look like much of a protest. It looked more like a collection of disgruntled neighbors just wanting to -- INGRAHAM: They had a zoning grievance with Mitch McConnell. ARROYO: This was a creative protest compared to what was going on in the bowels of the capital. This is an organizer giving his marchers orders. But are they in kindergarten? You be the judge. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's go watch the vote. CROWD: Let's go watch the vote. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In the offices in which they communicate with. CROWD: In the offices in which they communicate with. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am going to go Heidi Heitkamp's office. CROWD: I am going to go Heidi Heitkamp's office. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why? She's on our side. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: She on our side. ARROYO: And you can go to the offices you go to. INGRAHAM: Wait, wait, wait, they were going to the wrong office. Weren't they going to Heidi Heitkamp? Wait, zombie, co-zombie, she's on our side. Oh. Totally my bad. ARROYO: But why do you have to have a chant and echo for basic orders like we're going to go to the offices. INGRAHAM: We're going, we're going, to, to, the offices. ARROYO: We're going to the offices, to the offices. The Me Too movement is getting a pretty big birthday present. In California the governor signed a bill requiring public corporations to, in his state, to have at least one female director on their board. By 2021, every board will have to have three female directors. Do you think this is even constitutional, Laura? INGRAHAM: I think Pacific Islanders, Latino Americans, and every other group should say, what about me? Me too. ARROYO: How about men? I just want men to be on the all-female boards. Then they might be parity. INGRAHAM: There are no all-female boards. ARROYO: Well, let me tell you about the selfie suicide movement that's happening. The Indian health services did a study, 259 people in seven years lost their lives taking these risky selfie shots. Mostly men. People between 10 and 29. But that number is really low. They're saying it's almost 250. It's much higher than that. All they did was look at publicly declared cases. There are a lot that went undeclared. But it's people on rooftops, on monuments, they're in traffic, and they're dying taking these shots. Real vanity. Before I go. I thought just to bring it all together, Laura, the whole segment. We'll take selfie. You take that one. INGRAHAM: This hurts my hand. ARROYO: I'll take a quick selfie. Are you ready? Smile. Do we have it? INGRAHAM: Go to the edge. The ACLU used to care about the rights of accused. But with Kavanaugh they spent a million bucks comparing him to Bill Cosby. Check on him please, medic. Former VP of the group is here to take his former group to task. Help him. INGRAHAM: In all this Kavanaugh madness, has the American Civil Liberties Union undermined their core position? Among the most outrageous ads to come out of this Kavanaugh fight was the one in which the judge was compared to Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton. Our next guest says the group's no long area bunch of civil libertarians, that they're, quote, serving a different master now. Here to explain what he meant by that is former ACLU vice president Michael Meyers, along with civil rights attorney Will Jawando. Michael, I'm going to start with you. It seems like the ACLU has kind of forfeited their founding mission in favor of what, I guess just a leftist smear? MICHAEL MEYERS FORMER ACLU VICE PRESIDENT: Yes, in terms of lunatic politics of the left. The ACLU, and I was proud. I served on the board of the ACLU close to a quarter of a century. I was proud of it when it resisted fashion, when it stood up against, to the mob, when it insisted on the cornerstone of liberty which is the presumption of innocence. Nobody is guilty of anything on the basis of an accusation. You have got to have more than just an accusation. A person is not guilty of murder because a cop says you murdered somebody. A person is not guilty of murder because he's black, or because they're a women, no. You have got to have evidence. So the ACLU has abandoned all principles in terms of due process, fairness, fundamental fairness in favor of the smear. INGRAHAM: Let's play the ad, and then, Will, you can react. So this is the ad, about 23 seconds. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We've seen this before. Denials from powerful men. BILL CLINTON, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: I did not have sexual relations with that woman. BILL COSBY, COMEDIAN: I've never seen anything like this. JUDGE BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT NOMINEE: I categorically and unequivocally deny the allegation against me by Dr. Ford. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: America is watching. And as we choose a lifetime seat on our highest court, we cannot have any doubt. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Will, the ACLU, is about basic principles, due process, individual liberty, and last time I checked, innocent until proven guilty. And comparing Brett Kavanaugh to president Clinton, obviously, DNA evidence in that case, Bill Cosby, multiple accusations of corroborated sexual harassment and worse, how does it comport with the mission of the ACLU? WILL JAWANDO, CIVIL RIGHT ATTORNEY: Well, look, the thing here is that we didn't have an investigation. Weed a Don McGahn minutes after the Senate was forced to say we're going to do an FBI investigation say we can't have them talking to everybody. There were dozens of witnesses that were put forward by Dr. Ford and others that just were not talked to. They didn't even speak to Dr. Ford and Judge Kavanaugh, the people who were involved. INGRAHAM: Because it was supplemental investigation and both testified for hours and hours and hours. JAWANDO: You brought up the DNA evidence and all that stuff. We could have had some of that if we had had an actual investigation. INGRAHAM: Wait a second, wait a second. Will, I adore Will, Michael, hold on, but I adore will, but he said we might have had something like DNA evidence had we had more interviews? JAWANDO: We would have had more evidence, not DNA. INGRAHAM: I don't think so. JAWANDO: They weren't even doing DNA. INGRAHAM: Will -- I mean, Michael, again, the ACLU, I have to say when I was at Dartmouth and we got into hot water with college newspaper that was working for "The Dartmouth Review," I remember when Ira Glasser, who was, I think, executive director of the ACLU stood up for us, because we were student journalists. But I'm sure he didn't like a lot of the stuff we were doing. we were acting sophomoric. We were sophomores at college. But they stood up for us. And that gave me a sense of what the ACLU is all about. It wasn't partisan. MEYERS: The ACLU used to stand for nonpartisanship. It never took a position either for or against candidates for office or nominees for the court. Now, it's different. They have a pretense of nonpartisanship, and they always say in all of their literature, we are nonpartisan, we don't endorse oppose, but, however, and then they go on and give and give and give credence to that they oppose people they disagree with. JAWANDO: They were calling for an investigation. MEYERS: That's not the ACLU. I don't know what you know about the mission of the ACLU. Obviously you haven't read the policies of the NAA -- ACLU. JAWANDO: I worked at the NAACP. MEYERS: I said ACLU. JAWANDO: You said NAACP first. MEYERS: I know. I used to work at the NAACP national office. JAWANDO: What happened to you, man? MEYERS: I was assistant national director of the NAACP under Roy Wilkins and Ben Hooks. JAWANDO: They're rolling in their graves. MEYERS: That's when the organize was principled. That's when the organization knew that people had rights, individual rights, and freedom of speech. JAWANDO: One in three women has been sexually assaulted in this country. INGRAHAM: Guys, do we have time for this? I just want to play this one thing. This is from Susan Herman, this at liberty podcast. Listen very, very closely. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think we did want to make that statement and to disagree with those who say you shouldn't pay attention to her because you don't have objective corroboration. So, I think this is our statement, that we do believe that women should be believed. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Really quick, you have 10 seconds, all women should be believed, yes? JAWANDO: One in three women are victims of sexual assault. I have three daughters. I want their allegations to be taken seriously and investigated. It didn't happen here. You guys can celebrate all you want. It wasn't investigated. INGRAHAM: All women should be believed whether there's corroboration or not. JAWANDO: It should be investigated. INGRAHAM: Real quick, Mike, real quick. MEYERS: That's just absurd. Because somebody is a woman you have to believe them? Because somebody says they're a victim of a crime you have to believe them? No, that's not how we live in America. That's not due process. That's not right. That's not the presumption of innocence. INGRAHAM: Guys, we'll have you both back. We've got a lot more on this to cover. And by the way, a woman's march cofounder saying support for Kavanaugh equals support for bigotry and racism. Seems like a pretty big jump to me. Diamond and Silk here to respond, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TAMIKA MALLORY, WOMAN'S MARCH CO-CHAIR: When he was mocking her, there were people laughing. There were people laughing. And you know, I'm the resident check white women person in the women's march. (APPLAUSE) MALLORY: So let me tell you who was laughing. White women were standing there laughing with their white husbands. Do not allow people to be comfortable around you supporting racists and bigots. And it is not OK. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was women's march co-chair Tamika Mallory with a message to white women following the president's fact check of Christine Ford the other night. Here with their reaction are Diamond and Silk. Ladies, great to see you. Thanks for being here. Diamond, what's your reaction to Ms. Mallory here? DIAMOND, POLITICAL ACTIVIST: You have to understand that, first of all, the president wasn't mocking anybody. What he was doing was calling out inconsistencies in Dr. Ford's story, and we all was agreeing with him, the people in his audience and the people at home. That's the first thing. The second thing, this is what the Democrats do, the liberals do. When they can't beat with you the race card they use the sex card, they say you're a mark and they call you a bigot. That's why we have to march to the polls and vote right, vote for red, vote Republican. INGRAHAM: Silk, there's this actress, singer, Bette Midler, I know, remember, "Beaches." She said this in a tweet on Thursday, yesterday, "Women are the n-word of the world." She has since deleted the world. "Raped, beaten, enslaved, married off, worked like dumb animals, denied education, inheritance, enduring the pain of childbirth and life in silence for thousands of years. They are the most disrespected creatures on earth." Silk? SILK, POLITICAL ACTIVIST: I really believe that is really a shame how you tie, want to tie beautiful women and women to the n-word. When I look at, Bette, I look at the fact she's a Democrat. This is exactly what they do. If you look at the liberals, and the Democrats, they are the party of slavery. And look at the slave masters, what did they call their slaves? So she understands the n-word, she knows what it means to be the n-word. However, I think that she should not tie women to the n-word. And she shouldn't even be saying the n-word. I thought we laid that word to rest. INGRAHAM: Diamond, did you have any thoughts when you see the very angry, rage-filled protesters, filling the capitol, filling the Senate, Hart Office Building, celebrities, Amy Schumer standing up in her prison garb with her fist raised in the air. Thoughts on that? DIAMOND: My only thoughts on that is that we have to look at that, and what we have to do as a Republican Party is galvanize the Republicans and go to the polls and we have to vote. When I look at the left and how they use the Me Too movement, and how they took that movement and politicized it, and then used it as a weapon to weaponize it against somebody to try to character assassinate them, we don't need that happening to us. Today it was Kavanaugh, tomorrow it could be your brother, your husband, your son, or your father. So you're going to have to vote red and vote Republican. INGRAHAM: All right, ladies, thank you so much, great to see you tonight. And up next, a big announcement, and maybe even some breaking news. Stay there. INGRAHAM: This is a Fox News alert. We have a brand new addition to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE family tonight. Our producer, and her husband, Jimmy, they have a big announcement, the birth of their beautiful pint-sized Maria Clare O'Toole (ph). She is absolutely beautiful, six pounds, 14 ounces. She's a little Ingraham angel. There she is. They actually let, the O'Tooles (ph) let me actually hold the baby. ARROYO: Wait, wait, wait, Elisa (ph) had a baby? INGRAHAM: Oh, my God. You are -- ARROYO: Did Diamond and Silk come out? INGRAHAM: Congratulations, Elisa (ph) and Jimmy. Clare (ph), you're going to be a superstar. Load-Date: October 6, 2018 End of Document Grassley Says FBI's Report on Kavanaugh Shows "No Hint of Misconduct;" Tactics of the Left; President Trump Defends Judge Kavanaugh at Minnesota Rally; The Republicans Have Decided to Move On with the Vote for Kavanaugh and Most of Them Have Said They've Given Enough Pass for the Democrats' Request for the FBI Investigation and Now They Won't Allow Them to Keep Moving the Goalpost; Former Vice president of the ACLU, Michael Meyers, Says He Can't Believe What Has Happened to the Organization He Used to Admire, Now ACLU Has Become the Resist Movement of the Democrats Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 4, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7182 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Jason Chaffetz, Gregg Jarrett, Monica Crowley, Sebastian Gorka Guests: Kimberley Strassel, Dan Bongino, Michael Meyers, Doug Wardlow Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Thanks for being with us. What a busy news night. Welcome to HANNITY. The FBI investigation is over. The results are in. The Senate's findings have been totally confirmed and Judge Brett Kavanaugh is an overwhelmingly qualified candidate for the United States Supreme Court. Now, he is backed by a long and extra ordinary track record. He is admired by his colleagues, well-liked by the community, loved by his family and friends, until 17 days ago. And the FBI inquiry showed once again that the allegations against him have zero corroboration. None. Instead, the claims are refuted, denied, by everyone who was interviewed. Now, the Democratic witch hunt is officially over. Their delay tactics have hit a dead end, but the crybaby smear merchants on the left -- they're still grandstanding. They're resistance holding protest on Capitol Hill. Senate Democrats bashing the FBI tonight in their investigation. Democrats across America -- well, they are extreme they worried because their shameful attempts to ruin a man's life for political gains have now been exposed. And we are just 33 days away from the important midterm elections, and what do we see in the polling tonight? Republican candidates are now surging. Truth, justice, common sense, it might prevail after all. Judge Kavanaugh is once again coming to his own defense and a brand-new op- ed just released. Now, sit tight, buckle up. It's time for our breaking news, busy news night, opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: The seventh FBI background check into Judge Kavanaugh is finished, it's wrapped, and now, a confirmation vote for Judge Brett Kavanaugh could come as early as Saturday. President Trump, he is looking forward to this vote. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The Democrats have been trying to destroy Judge Brett Kavanaugh. (BOOS) Since the very first second he was announced, and he was announced for one simple reason. He has an incredible intellect, an incredible person, an incredible talent. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) He's been an incredible judge. Because they know that Judge Kavanaugh will protect, uphold, and defend the Constitution of the United States as written. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And tonight, many U.S. senators, they are on the fence, but they're responding positively to today's FBI report. According to Senator Jeff Flake, a swing vote, the FBI's report revealed zero new evidence against Kavanaugh. Senator Collins of Maine, another crucial swing vote, praised the investigation for being very thorough. Here is bottom line. If both Flake and Collins vote in favor of Judge Kavanaugh, he will be a Supreme Court justice. And today, at a very fiery press conference, Senate Republicans had this to say about the impending vote and this horrific process. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPO) SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY), MAJORITY LEADER: What we know for sure is the FBI report did not corroborate any of the allegations against Judge Kavanaugh. SEN. CHUCK GRASSLEY (R-IA), JUDICIARY COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: This is the 87th day -- that is three weeks longer than the average of the last three or four nominees to the Supreme Court. So, don't tell me we haven't spent enough time. What I have been dealing with since July 10th, the downhill slope that Schumer has put us on is really dealing with a demolition derby. They just about destroyed a good person, to be on the Supreme Court. SEN. JOHN CORNYN (R), TEXAS: A vote against Judge Kavanaugh tomorrow will be a vote for abusing the confirmation process and a good person. And it will be a vote for the shameful intimidation tactics that have been employed as part of an orchestrated smear campaign. This is a search and destroy mission. This is not a search for the truth. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And tonight, it is important to remember, more documentation was provided to the Senate judiciary committee, than any Supreme Court nominee in history. And so far, this nomination process is the third longest in the past 50 years. But tonight, the smear merchants on the left are in full on freak-out mode. Senate Democrats who all demanded an FBI investigation to be done quickly with limited scope, just last week, they're now trashing that very same FBI investigation. New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez, he called it a B.S. investigation on Twitter. Naturally, the whining continued when there's a television camera in front of these -- well, publicity hungry Democrats. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY), MAJORITY LEADER: We Democrats had many fears that this would be an all too limited process that would constrain the FBI from getting the facts. Having received a thorough briefing a few minutes ago, our fears have been realized. SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: This set of interviews is, at best, most charitably, woefully incomplete. To put it bluntly, it smacks of a whitewash, even a cover-up. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In your view, is this a fulsome and credible investigation? SEN. ED MARKEY (D), MASSACHUSETTS: It's obviously a cover-up. They are making a mockery of the constitutional requirement that the Senate provide its advice and consent. SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D), NEW JERSEY: That report, if that's an investigation, that's (EXPLETIVE DELETED) investigation. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Every one of these Democrats were against Judge Kavanaugh or anyone president Trump would have nominated to the court. Now, on this program, while we have exposed the few, the few, top echelon, in the FBI that did abuse their power, we have always made a point almost on a nightly basis to stand up for the rank-and-file FBI agents, field agents, you know, the ones that risked their lives, like other law enforcement, for us, every single day. Including those that conducted the supplemental background check. The FBI acted in a fair, independent manner. Some on the left don't like the results. The calls for a more thorough investigation is beyond absurd. What is the FBI supposed to do? We don't have a location to investigate, no date to investigate. There's no physical evidence. There's no forensic evidence. And we don't even know the day of the week. And every single person that Professor Ford listed to corroborate her story denied any knowledge of her claims. And the one eyewitness that she listed, totally refuted her claim. Even her longtime friend had no idea what she was talking about. They all refuted her claims under penalty of perjury, now twice. The other allegations against Kavanaugh, they are even more shaky. The second accuser making decades-old claims that Kavanaugh had exposed himself as a freshman in college at a party. Well, she wasn't even sure that Kavanaugh was the perpetrator. Even "The New York Times" wouldn't publish her claims, and they searched far and wide for evidence to corroborate her story. They found nothing, except that she had been making calls to other Yale classmates at the time saying, I'm not sure it is him, do you remember? And the third accuser making systematic, drugging, gang rape allegation against teenage girls and her story has changed many times in about a week. She is facing serious credibility issues, and of course, represented by Michael Avenatti, you know, lawyer of the year. None of these allegations have dates, locations, witnesses, evidence, corroboration, of any kind, of any of these claims. So do Democrats really expect to be FBI to magically find decades-old evidence proving that Kavanaugh was an evil sexual predator, systemic gang rapist, somebody that drugged teenage girls. They really believe that the American people would suspend all decency, all common sense and a belief that a man with an impeccable 40- year track record was really secretly a monster in his youth and did this almost on a weekly basis? In reality, this has always been about politics and power. A delay tactic, a transparent attempt to literally ruin a man's life, destroy his family. Because they lost an election and they want the power. This has become a national disgrace. And in some cases, these political tactics worked. Democratic senator from North Dakota, Heidi Heitkamp, by the way, now down 11 in the latest poll, claimed to be an independent voice for the people of North Dakota. Tonight, we know she is nothing more than a shill for Schumer and the Democratic Party. Now, I guess she assumed she is not getting reelected, so she is trashing the will of her own constituents in voting no. Then you got John Donnelly, Indiana, also a "no" vote. By the way, he's up for reelection in 33 days. By the way, Indiana voters, you can send him a message and get out and vote. Now, we are seeing the Democratic Party play -- literally, their playbook roll out in full force. Everything that we have chronicled on a regular basis on the show, we now begin our 23rd year on the FOX News Channel, 30 in radio. There's now a big crescendo into one of the most despicable displays in anything we have ever witnessed. And I warned you, they are going to try and bork Kavanaugh or whoever the president picked, and then bring back the Clarence Thomas tactics. The smear machine of the left is in full gear. They know no bounds. And some on the left are actually claiming, well, OK, our allegations didn't work, let's go after Judge Kavanaugh's temperament. That might be disqualifying. They're saying he was just too aggressive when defending himself against false allegations of drugging and gang raping teenage girls. Ask yourself this question. OK, how would you react if you were falsely accused of rape? Of drugging teenage girls, happened on an every weekend basis, gang raping them, boys lining up in the halls? How would you react? What is the appropriate reaction? How would you react if senators were on national TV calling you evil, comparing you to Bill Cosby, suggesting that you're guilty of serious crimes you never committed? Far left retired Justice John Paul Stevens weighing in: Oh, this should disqualify him from becoming a justice. This is the same radical former Supreme Court justice that doesn't believe in the Constitution. He once demanded the Second Amendment be repealed, and wrote that the election of George W. Bush violated our Constitution. And just moments ago, Judge Kavanaugh, in an op-ed just will released with "The Wall Street Journal," he eloquently defended himself on the eve of what will be a historic vote. This is a tipping point for this country. He talked about these ridiculous allegations. He wrote, quote: After all those meetings and after my initial hearing concluded, I was subjected to wrongful, sometimes vicious, allegations. My time in high school and college, more than 30 years ago, has been ridiculously distorted. My wife, my daughters have faced vile and violent threats. And against that backdrop, I testified before the Judiciary Committee last Thursday to defend my family, my good name, my lifetime of public service. My hearing testimony was forceful and passionate. That is because I forcefully and passionately denied the allegations against me. He continued: Yes, I was very emotional last Thursday, more so than I have ever been. I might have been too emotional at times. Well, I know that my tone was sharp, I said a few things I should not have said. He did apologize once in the hearings. I hope everyone can understand that I was there as a son, a husband, a dad, and I testified with five people foremost in my mind: my mom, my dad, my wife, and most of all, my two daughters. Now, sadly, this kind of common sense and logic and decency from Judge Kavanaugh, it means nothing to the left. How would you respond? By the way, it means nothing to their cohorts, their friends, in the mainstream media. You got all the people on the left whining, crying, complaining, those that believe in guilt by accusation -- just doing what they do best today, feigning outrage. By the way, when did any of these people on the Judiciary Committee, the snowflakes on the floor of the Senate being taken out all day, did they ever protested Bill Clinton like this? Did they ever stand up for Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones? Oh, that's right, Dianne Feinstein, who recommended Debra Katz -- well, Debra Katz didn't believe in Paula Jones. It was only ten or 12 minutes. So, you have a lot of hypocrisy, feigned, selective moral outrage. And today, you have far left protesters erupting all over Capitol Hill. And as you can imagine, emotions were running high. Logic was running very low. Even sent our own Griff Jenkins down to the middle of all of this in the middle of the mob, asking these people what they thought about due process, the presumption of innocence, the rule of law. The answers will stun you, take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a job interview. There is no presumption of innocence in a job interview. GRIFF JENKINS, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDEN: Do you believe that he was given a fair chance in his confirmation? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A fair chance? This man is sitting amongst friends of his. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Clearly, there been enough allegations swirling around that we know that this job application needs to be denied. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The public is the people who should be making decisions about what they need and what they deserve, not the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) rich white man who doesn't give a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) about us. SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN (D), MASSACHUSETTS: In my view, Judge Kavanaugh made it pretty clear that he does not have the judicial temperament, he believes the Supreme Court is just one more political football. That's not what the Supreme Court is about, and I think in that hearing, Judge Kavanaugh disqualified himself. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No presumption of innocence, no due process. Let me tell you, if that's the case, there's no country, there's no Constitution. It's sad, it's shocking, and it's frankly beyond chilling. Now, coming up, we are going to have a lot more of Griff, including his full interview with Senator Elizabeth Warren. Now, today, she led this horde of demonstrators demanding that Kavanaugh's life and reputation continue to be destroyed without these fundamental beliefs that we as Americans should all share regardless of political orientation. You have to have some corroboration. There's got to be some evidence, some presumption of innocence. The only good news tonight is the left -- well, they officially have been officially exposed to the American people. See those protesters? You are looking at the modern radical left Democratic Party, and the media, the party of double standards. The party of smears, lies, character assassinations, family bludgeoning with no plans to offer the hardworking, law-abiding, taxpaying citizens, you, the American who make this country the single greatest, best, last great hope for man on this earth. Look what they do. The people, that's not the people of this country. That is one party, though sadly, that has abandoned any sense of fundamental decency, fairness, and common sense. Now, thankfully, you, the American people, it has now awoken a lot of people in this country. Look at this Rasmussen poll on President Trump, it's his highest approval rating ever. According to an NPR poll of all places, remember the Democratic enthusiasm, blue wave edge that they had? It's totally evaporated. Today, at this hour, we are seeing the chaos, the mayhem, the madness, the insanity. You got the leaders of the Democratic Party, full on assault on the integrity of the FBI. They have so convinced their party activists about guilt upon accusation, that that's fine in America. No due process is fine in America. No presumption of innocence is fine. How does that work for you and your family in your life? Slander, smear, character assassination, that's one party in America today. Great job, Dianne Feinstein, Chuckie Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters. Do you want them in power in 33 days? Now, the American people, now that the people that they're leading causing pandemonium in our nation's capital because their so-called leaders convinced them that guilt by accusation is okay. That defining someone as a rapist, a gang rapist, a drugger of teenage girls without cooperation in America is okay? Well, those are the tactics of today's radical Democratic Party. This is why, for years, I had pointed this out on the show. This happens every two and four years, and now with every Supreme Court appointment, nearly everyone. They disseminated salacious lies about President Trump before and after the election. They advanced a bizarre conspiracy theories that one candidate actually paid for. Hookers urinating in beds, they talk about it as if its truth. They disseminated as propaganda before elections. They do it to start up a witch hunt investigation and conspiracy. They call people racist, sexist, misogynist, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, that Republicans, conservatives want dirty air and water. We drink the water and breathe the air. They want children to die. Well, if you're only going to raise Medicare 7 percent a year, that means you want to throw your own grandmother off the cliff. We hear it every two and four years. And when these vile accusations of drugging, gang raping teenage girls without evidence, that's not to be believed by the FBI, these are the consequences? That's the reaction? Is this the party you want in power? You want to elect these people and 33 days? Look at your screen. High drama tonight with these four senators. They appear to hold the keys to the Kavanaugh vote. Are they going to give into this in new America of guilt by accusation, lying, smearing, slander, character bludgeoning? Of the last 17 days. Forget the last 40 years of this man's life. No corroboration. Are they going to give into this? Has any of this had any impact on those four senators? Do they believe in the presumption of innocence? That's their question tonight. Do they believe in due process, the rule of law? Do they have common sense and decency? Do they believe that you've got to have some corroboration? Do they believe in our great Constitution? Or are they going to reward forever the slanderous tactics of the hard left that only want power? Here with reaction, FOX News investigative reporter Sara Carter, the author of "The Deep State: How an Army of Bureaucrats Protected Obama and Working to Destroy the Trump Agenda," FOX News contributor Jason Chaffetz. Sara, let's begin with you. You saw this unfold today, it has been building, it looks like it comes down to three Republicans -- Murkowski, Collins, and Flake. And may be Joe Manchin, a Democrat, but I don't think he'll vote for Kavanaugh unless the Republicans have the vote already. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: That's right. Nobody wants to take a guess, Sean, as to what they're going to do. I have been talking to people do, however, on the Hill. And some of them believe that Susan Collins may vote to pass confirmation for Kavanaugh, as well as Manchin. Manchin is up there. I think one of the interesting things about Manchin is he is in West Virginia. West Virginia where there's a lot of support for President Trump. He is sometimes called a Trump Democrat. So, I think that's what they are going to see here. Look, Sean, what we are hearing today, what we have seen over this last week, the op-ed that was written by Kavanaugh, I can't believe he didn't go further. Can you imagine going home to your daughters and having to explain -- HANNITY: No. CARTER: -- to your young daughter why they are calling you a gang rapist? Why people are shredding your name, your good name, that you spent over 30 years building? Pulling out stories that aren't even true? The American people are not dumb, Sean. The American people see what is happening here, and now they see the rise of this very frightening left movement. HANNITY: Well, let me ask -- Congressman, without any corroboration on any of these charges, I don't believe it's profile in courage for these four senators to say he's had a 40-year track record versus 17 days of smears. Everybody else that seems to know -- have known him and know him say just the opposite. Are they going to give into these tactics? Because if they do, I would argue America is forever changed for the worst. JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I hope that three of the four will actually get there. I'm not so sure about Murkowski. But I've got to tell you, that Kavanaugh family, they have taken every hit, every cheap shot, every blow, and they are the toughest family that I know of, because everything that has been thrown at them has been so unfair. I do, I am encouraged by what Collins said today, I was encouraged by what Jeff Flake said. He is on the record of passing them out of committee, and I think he'll hopefully get there. And I think Manchin -- HANNITY: Well, he got what he wanted, Congressman. And he got the FBI corroborating with the Senate Judiciary investigating committee found themselves, and there's nothing else to investigate except talking to the four people. We don't know where it happened, when it happened, what day of the week it happened. We don't know -- there are no forensics in this case. CARTER: There is just nothing there, Sean. I mean, we talk to people -- CHAFFETZ: There's been seven investigations. CARTER: Seven -- seven investigations piled high, hundreds of pages. There is nothing there to find. Except we have to stand our ground here. And I'm talking to the journalist here, but also as an American, you are innocent until proven guilty. They should not be allowed -- people should not be allowed to slander another person with no evidence, no corroboration, and try to make that stick. That does not happen in the United States of America. That happens in country like Russia and other places. HANNITY: Well, we'll find out by Saturday at 5:00 p.m., won't we, Congressman? CHAFFETZ: Yes, I think ultimately he gets 53 votes and he is the next justice on the Supreme Court. HANNITY: How many votes? CHAFFETZ: Fifty-three. HANNITY: OK. Sara, what do you say? CARTER: I'm in total agreement that I'm kind of iffy on one of them, but I say 52 for sure, 53 maybe. HANNITY: All right. We'll see. Thank you both. When we come back, Gregg Jarrett, Kimberley Strassel, Monica Crowley. We have the latest news on the liberal activism caused by liberal leaders, straight ahead. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GRASSLEY: I would never use the word "fake news". I consider you folks a policeman for our democratic system of government. But I want to show you where some of you have bias. I have demonstrators in my office for two weeks now, both for Kavanaugh and against Kavanaugh. And one time, the people that were for Kavanaugh wanted to be interviewed. And they said, we are only interested in interviewing people against Kavanaugh. Now, that's a bias that none of you should be proud of. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley criticizing the liberal media for their shameful coverage of the Kavanaugh nomination. As always, usually, one sided. Here with more reaction, "Wall Street Journal's" columnist Kimberley Strassel, senior fellow at the London Center for Policy Research, Monica Crowley, author of "The New York Times" number one bestseller, "The Russia Hoax," FOX News Legal Analyst, Gregg Jarrett. Kimberley, let me start with you. It's either going to be one way. It's either going to be 49 or 52. That's my guess. I don't think there's going to be any middle ground here. KIMBERLEY STRASSEL, COLUMNIST, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL: No, I think that's probably right. And to go to your topic, we know which side the media is rooting for. And this is really disturbing to those of us who started on the news side. Look, this used to be really simple. There was a divide between opinions and news side reporters. I'm very clear, everything I write, I'm an opinion writer. It is delineated in the newspaper as opinion. But on the news side, so many and so many organizations, they don't abide by that rule anymore. They are out there -- and, you now, its' undercutting the journalism industry, which already is one of the least trusted industries out there. But they're, through omission, through misrepresenting a fact, they have chosen a side, and it does not reflect well on anybody. HANNITY: They have more than chosen a side, Gregg Jarrett. They are now advocates themselves of guilt by accusation. You know, they are not telling their audiences about the lack of corroboration in every case. I am a talk show host. I am a conservative. As a talk show host, sometimes we do straight news. We break news, we do investigative reporting. You've been part of our investigative team. Other times, I give strong opinion. I give opening monologues. We're the whole newspaper. But they say they are the news division, and they're not. We do everything, we admit up front, like Kimberley said, they do not admit -- they claim to be something they're not. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: There is no shortage of media malpractice in the age of Trump. And this is a perfect example. The mainstream media became witting, willing accessories to character assassination. They demonized Kavanaugh, corroborating evidence be damned. They drove this constant narrative that guilt should be assumed and presumed. And that an accuser should never even be question, much less doubted. They attacked, at every turn, you know, Kavanaugh's temperament, they attacked his yearbook. They attacked his denial. And it was really a shameful example of how the media has become overwhelmed by its own bias. HANNITY: Yes. And Monica, I mean, 48 for 52. Not 49, my mouth was off slightly. But to me, this is no profile in courage. If there is no corroboration -- on any case, and just the opposite, the Professor Ford she identified an eyewitness to the alleged crime what she was talking. The eyewitness says it didn't happen. Why do so many people from the beginning, they said, we believe her. Well, there is no presumptive innocence there. There is no due process. They made up their mind without hearing anything. And then they are literally hemming and hawing at the FBI tonight. What was the FBI supposed to do beyond that which they did? MONICA CROWLEY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, then that's exactly what the Democrats, the left, and the media profess that they wanted, right. A full, thorough FBI investigation then they got one, and of course that wasn't enough. You know, Sean, talking about the press, most of the mainstream press has been biased to the left for decades, we've known that. But what's different in the Trump era is the level and intensity of their advocacy and activism. So all of the facts that you just laid out there about Dr. Ford's testimony, the lack of corroboration and on substantiation, very little of that has been reported in the mainstream press because now the press is an active and proactive member of the left. And the left is at war for the future of the country. They are at war with a Constitution, free market economics, individual liberty. All of the things that Judge Kavanaugh will fight for as a justice on the Supreme Court. Therefore, he must be destroyed and the press is actively doing that. HANNITY: Why, Kimberley, they have had all day now to look at the FBI report. Why are we still waiting to hear from Murkowski, Collins, Flake, and Manchin? KIMBERLEY STRASSEL, WRITER, WALL STREET JOURNAL: Yes. I mean, it would be nice if they declared on this so that we can start to put this episode behind us. Look, I think, that they, for the same reasons that they wanted the FBI investigation, it provided them some additional cover to say, that everything has been vetted. They are going to make us wait, I think, until tomorrow morning. Look, almost every other senator has-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, we'll know at 10.30 do you think that vote will be the indicator? STRASSEL: Well, it will be because -- look, that is -- historically, every time that you have this, that particular vote, that is the indicator. If you vote to move forward, it's essentially a vote for the nominee. HANNITY: yes. STRASSEL: Now. and historically, as well, that usually meant you immediately had a final vote. I would wager Democrats are going to try to prolong it as long as they could so their protesters can keep going. HANNITY: Predections, Kimberley, what do you say? STRASSEL: I'm hopeful, I think, that he will be confirmed. HANNITY: Gregg Jarrett, how is this coming down and why are they waiting? JARRETT: Well, Jeff Flake wins the Charlie Brown wishy-washy award. So, you know, there is no predicting that. Murkowski and Collins -- their -- they don't have courage. They're waiting to see what the other one does, so who knows? HANNITY: What you think, Monica? CROWLEY: I say he gets confirmed by the Clarence Thomas split, 52-48. HANNITY: All right. Thank you for all being with us. I hope for the sake of fairness and due process that equal justice under the law and the presumption of innocence prevails here. When we come back, more of Griff Jenkins on his exclusive reporting. He went in the middle of a mob earlier today in these protests. We have Dr. Sebastian Gorka and Dan Bongino they're next as we continue to monitor where will this go. Judge Kavanaugh writing in the Wall Street Journal, "I am an independent and impartial judge," this very evening. More next. HANNITY: Earlier today, our own Griff Jenkins spoke with a lot of these crazy protesters at the anti-Kavanaugh rally. By the way, you could really think Chuck and Nancy and Maxine waters and Michael Avenatti for this bizarre well, happening earlier today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GRIFF JENKINS, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Do you feel that he was afforded the presumption of innocence? SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN, (D) MASSACHUSETTS: This is a job interview. And the question is about the evidence that's presented and the credibility of her claim. JENKINS: Do you believe that Judge Kavanaugh had presumption of innocence, got a fair shake in the hearing? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. I think that he didn't give himself a fair share because he lied the entire time. JENKINS: Do you believe Judge Kavanaugh was given the presumption of innocence? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is this a court of law? JENKINS: Why do you believe Judge Kavanaugh shouldn't be confirmed? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I feel like he's lied multiple times, and he feels -- he acted crazy. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Clearly there has been enough allegations swirling around that we know that this job application needs to be denied. JENKINS: Judge Kavanaugh was not given his fair presumption of innocence? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think that Judge Kavanaugh refused the investigation, right? He did not want it. That is not the behavior of someone who is understand, like, that, as a man, it is his benefit and the country's benefit, to say, let's discover the truth. JENKINS: Do you believe that he was given a fair chance in his confirmation? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A fair chance? This man is sitting among friends of his. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The public is the people who should be making decisions about what they need and what they deserve, not the (muted) little white man who don't give a (muted) about us. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because her allegations of sexual assault gets him that quite likely are true. I believe they are true, but it hasn't been proven yet one way or another. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a job interview, there is no presumption of innocence in a job interview. JENKINS: And in your mind, Judge Kavanaugh failed that? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Absolutely, he failed the job interview. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is nothing short of a desperate grab by the old, white, male, rich patriarchy. WARREN: In my view, Judge Kavanaugh made it pretty clear that he does not have the judicial temperament. He believes the Supreme Court is just one more political football. That's not what the Supreme Court is about. And I think, in that hearing, Judge Kavanaugh disqualified himself. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No presumption of innocence. This confirms everything you need to know about the party of Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, Michael Avenatti. Here with reaction, author of the book, "Why We Fight," Dr. Sebastian Gorka. Author of the book "Spygate," former Secret Service agent NRA TV contributor, Dan Bongino. Dr. Gorka, we will begin with you. May be, in ways, regardless of the outcome of the vote, maybe we will now -- maybe the American people, I think these polls show tonight, see what this -- there is one party that doesn't believe in our Constitution. Basic, fundamental, you know, generational principles that have served us well. They will throw all of that to the wind, guilt by accusation. Mob rule seems to rule the day. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: Sean, as the child of parents who suffered as children and then adults under fascism and then communism, I am deadly serious when I say it's people like the people you just showed being interviewed that make dictatorships possible. Those people are ideologues. They don't care about the truth. This, interesting that three people used the same talking point. It's a job interview, therefore there is no presumption of innocence. Presumption of innocence isn't just in a court of law. It's base -- it's the basis of Anglo-American society, of our civilization. The idea that he didn't show the requisite temperament for 31 hours, he showed exactly the temperament that was needed for a Supreme Court justice. And then, when he was slandered, he showed what an innocent man does when you react to being called a serial rapist and accused of attempted murder when he is innocent. These people are frightening. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And a drugging women systematically almost on a weekly basis. Dan Bongino? DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: You know, Sean, we've crossed the Rubicon here, the other side wants chaos. But here's the problem, Sean. I want your audience and you to smile a little bit tonight. The left isn't ready for the storm they think they want, Sean. These people are soft. One of those guys had a man bun. These guys have been and women have been brought as educational institutions, they've been coddled. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: hang on. BONGINO: They had people kiss their butts. HANNITY: I don't want to get dragged into one thing. I'm not criticizing. I'm just saying here. I don't want to go after how people look, I want to deal with substance here. The substance is, do you believe in the presumption of innocence? And many on that video said no. I don't care what they dress or how they wear their hair. They said no. BONGINO: Sean, they want chaos. Chaos is the opposite of due process. What I'm trying to get at here is these people are soft. This entire ideology, that our emotions matter, law, reason, rule of law, none of that matters. They have been coddled. You understand, they have been coddled their entire time through college, through their educational institutions. Liberalism has been the default position they're not ready for the fight ahead. We are, we know how to exercise-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But in 33 days the American people-- BONGINO: Sean. HANNITY: If you listen to the media, that party of Schumer, the ones that I would argue initiated this belief that Judge Kavanaugh is guilty by accusation, they want power. Nancy Pelosi wants to be speaker, Chuckie wants to be the head of the Senate. GORKA: But Sean? HANNITY: Yes, Dr. Gorka? GORKA: Sean, the American, the sleeping giant has awoken. There are people, millions that have been angered by the way Judge Kavanaugh was treated. And even if they didn't vote for Donald Trump, you can bet they are going to vote Republican in 33 days. HANNITY: Do believe that, Dan? BONGINO: I do. I think they've pulled the pin on an electoral grenade, they can't possibly put back in, they may have a little bit of trouble on the House side, but I think the Senate, the Democrats are regretting every minute of this right now. HANNITY: But remember, if they get the house, and Nancy Pelosi is speaker, Maxine Waters as chair committee, they want to impeach, they want to rescind the tax cuts, they want open borders, eliminate ICE, they want to keep Obamacare. This is just the beginning. All right. Thank you both, we have to end there. We appreciate our time. When we come back, we're going to expose more liberal double standards, and why isn't the left in this country demanding an FBI into allegations against Keith Ellison? Do any of these people ever stick up for Juanita Broaddrick? Well, that's right, the left has selective moral outrage. No FBI investigation for Juanita Broaddrick, Kathlyn Willey, Paula Jones. Interesting. HANNITY: So with reaction to the ongoing Kavanaugh nomination saga, president of the New York Civil Rights Coalition, former vice president of the ACLU, Michael Meyers. You saw the ad we played last night, Michael. For what, since 1981 to 2005, you were a member, a high-ranking member of the ACLU? MICHAEL MEYERS, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, ACLU: I was on the national board, I was with the American Civil Liberty Union, I was also a voting member most of those years on the ACLU national executive's committee. HANNITY: How do you feel? MEYERS: I was proudest of the ACLU when the ACLU resisted fascism, when they stood up to the mob. Now the ACLU has become the mob. And it has become what they are not supposed to be. You are supposed to stand up to the mob, it's supposed to stand for freedom and individual liberty, it's supposed to stand for the presumption of innocence. It doesn't make -- it doesn't make assumptions. It makes a presumption that a person is presumed to be innocent unless he is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In terms of civil matters, the person is innocent unless there is a preponderance of the evidence. The ACLU now-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What happened, Michael? What happened to your organization? MEYERS: The ACLU now is hijacked by the lunatic left. They don't believe in process. They don't believe in due process. They don't believe in free speech anymore. They don't believe in anything other than the resistance. Or rather as opposed to resisting fashion, they have become part of the resistance movement. I HANNITY: Where does this end, Michael? Does the -- do civil libertarians come back to where you were, or you know, do you now join people like me, which I know will give -- you know, send shock waves through your spine? MEYERS: Well, let's put it this way. The ACLU has become like the NAACP. Once you lose control of your board, once you do not have civil libertarians on the board, you don't have a civil liberties union organization anymore. And you have people who are bottom-line lunatics in terms of the left. They want, quote, unquote, "justice" so if a woman encourages a man, the mere accusation is enough for the ACLU. This has never been a principal of civil liberties. You can't accuse somebody and don't expect evidence to show the person is guilty of something. And you can't presume the person is guilty as opposed to innocent. HANNITY: Michael, there are people like you, Alan Dershowitz in this case, you stand alone and you've been consistent in your views. I've great admiration for both of you on this case. Thank you both -- thank you for being with us. MEYERS: Thank you. HANNITY: Joining us now, Keith Ellison's opponent in the race for Minnesota A.G., Doug Wardlow is with us. Doug, you met with the president after he arrived in Minnesota tonight. I heard you're hanging out with my buddy, Michael (Inaudible) Mike. I love the guy, one of my best friends. When the president spoke on this issue Kavanaugh tonight, the reaction, from what I could hear, was one of the loudest of the night. Was that your perception? DOUG WARDLOW, (R) ATTORNEY GENERAL NOMINEE, MINNESOTA: Absolutely right, Sean. You know, people in Minnesota understand that there is a terrible double standard that the Democrats are foisting upon on the country right now. On the one hand, they are going after Judge Kavanaugh, who is a good man base on -- and they are doing it base on unsubstantiated allegations. On the other hand, we've got the deputy chair of the DNC, Keith Ellison, my opponent running for attorney general of the State of Minnesota, and there are credible allegations against him by two women, two women. We've got medical records, as well as a witness. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Text messages, doctor's reports. WARDLOW: Exactly. HANNITY: Well, is that -- here is my question. (CROSSTALK) WARDLOW: there text messages. There are doctor's report. HANNITY: Any member of the Senate judiciary committee called for an FBI investigation on the most powerful man on the Democratic National Committee? WARDLOW: No, they haven't. No, they haven't. It just reveals the double standard. It reveals that the Democrats they care about power in politics. They don't care about the welfare of women, they don't care about truth or justice. Terrible. HANNITY: Yes. Will he win in Minnesota? Do you think he-- (CROSSTALK) WARDLOW: No, he is not going to win in Minnesota. HANNITY: -- may step down but a solo FBI investigation. WARDLOW: There is no FBI investigation. But we're neck in neck in the polls. You know, in 33 days Minnesotans are going to go to the polls they are going to retire Keith Ellison from politics. It will be a great thing for the nation. I would encourage conservatives all across the country to visit my web site, DougWardlowag.com to join the fight to stop Keith Ellison. HANNITY: All right. Please send my regards to our mutual friend Mike. And thank you for being with us. All the best 33 days from now. All right. So the president was in Minnesota tonight, huge rally there. We got the highlights, we'll play that for you coming up next on this busy breaking news night. Stay with us. HANNITY: And speaking of Minnesota, earlier tonight, the president held a rally there. And here are some of the highlights. We haven't been able there so far. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The only reason to vote Democrat is if you are tired of winning. That's really it. Because you are winning. You are winning a lot. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: There has never been an administration that in already less than two years -- but can you believe? We all did this together? We are coming up on two years. Can you believe it? There has never been an administration with you that's done so much in so little time. Two years. No administration has come close. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Thirty three days from tonight, you, the American people decide if Nancy Pelosi become speaker, Chuck Schumer the Senate Majority Leader, Maxine Waters chairs committee, and Michael Avenatti becomes the new star of the Democratic Party. Should they be rewarded for what they have done? This has been a national disgrace where you don't have the presumption of innocence. All right. Thanks for being with us. We'll be back tomorrow night with some more answers. There's going to be a lot. Laura is next. We'll see you tomorrow. Laura? Load-Date: October 5, 2018 End of Document Democrats Protesting and Wanting to Salvage Operation after the FBI Report was Reviewed by Senate and Cleared Kavanaugh of Any Sexual Abuse Accusations; Democrats Style of Intimidation and Harassment Towards Senators on Not to Vote to Confirm Brett Kavanaugh; White House is Supporting and Standing by the FBI Report on Brett Kavanaugh; Ingraham Angle Investigations on How the Reporters Got Hold of Dr. Ford's Account; FBI Submits Completed Investigation into Allegations against Supreme Court Nominee to White House; Interview with Senator Lindsey Graham; Senate May Propose Cloture for Senate Vote on Kavanaugh Nomination Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 4, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7918 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Howard Kurtz, Matt Schlapp, Gillian Turner Guests: Ariel Gold, Jennifer Mascott, Mary Matalin, Kellyanne Conway, Steve Pomerantz, John Iannarelli Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: This has been a national disgrace where you don't have the presumption of innocence. Thanks for being with us. We'll be back tomorrow night with more answers. There is going to be a lot. Laura's next. We'll see you tomorrow. Laura LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, do you think that Nancy Pelosi actually sleeps with the gavel? Do you think the gavel is like, it's right there? (CROSSTALKJ) INGRAHAM: You know, people have a teddy bear or a binky, like a blanket, but the gavel. HANNITY: No, no, no. She'll get the gavel and she is going to hit you and me in the head with it, that's what I could tell you. INGRAHAM: Oh, my gosh. Sean, you had a fantastic show tonight. Oh, my gosh. We missing you in Washington though. HANNITY: -- your swamp. I'm glad be out of there but I am back in the high tax swap. INGRAHAM: All right, Hannity, thank you so much. HANNITY: Have a good show. INGRAHAM: All right. Welcome to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. I'm Laura Ingraham in Washington. Kavanaugh cleared, that according to a supplemental FBI report that every senator has read at this hour. And in moments, we will show you how the left is lashing out in response. We're going to get exclusive reaction from the White House when Kellyanne Conway joins us live. Mary Matalin makes a rare television appearance and Matt Schlap will be along as well. And one week after his fiery defense of Judge Kavanaugh becoming the rallying cry for conservatives, Lindsey Graham joins me tonight on where things stand now and where they go from here. Plus, an INGRAHAM ANGLE investigation. We've been doing some digging into just how Christine Ford's name was leaked. Stay here for that. But first, the Democrats desperate salvage operation. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. After another week of delay in the Kavanaugh confirmation saga, the FBI supplemental report is in. And it appears the Democrats have lost another one. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (D), KENTUCKY: What we know for sure is at the FBI report did not corroborate any of the allegations against Judge Kavanaugh. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Even the undecided Hamlet figure, Jeff Flake says the report doesn't contain any new corroboration, while Susan Collins called it very thorough. Now, let me say again, the report, all 46 pages of it, apparently produced zero corroborating evidence to back up the accusations of Kavanaugh's accusers. But as we've come to expect, straightforward, factual revelations have zero influence on Democrats going wild across America. For instance, at the University of Vermont, they held a cancel class, cancel Kavanaugh rally. How clever. In Brooklyn, New York, in Bel Air, Maryland, there were similar calls to kill Kavanaugh's nomination. And here in Washington, D.C., the hate machine was ramped up to full throttle. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Our democracy has been hijacked by the powerful and they don't plan to share it. So, yes, I am angry. But let me make this clear. I have a plan. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: But isn't anger most effective when it becomes a chant? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: We are! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: About to! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: About to! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: March! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: March! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We need! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: We need! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everyone! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: Everyone! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: To pay! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: To pay! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Attention! UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: Attention! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, who needs chants that rhyme anyway? And what would anti- Kavanaugh pro-abortion protest be without a few Hollywood heavyweights. Well, model Emily Ratajkowski showed some outrage and some midriff and comedian Amy Schumer was as usual politically understated. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AMY SCHUMER, COMEDIAN: A vote for Kavanaugh is a vote saying women don't matter. Let's say together. Let's fight! Let's keep showing up! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well the good thing is that when she was arrested she actually didn't have to put on prison garb. She was already wearing it. And all over the capital there were roving survivors, accosting senators undecided about Kavanaugh's nomination. So they attempted at one point this afternoon -- you will love this -- to pull a Flake and bully senators like Joe Manchin of West Virginia into casting a no vote. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As a survivor I don't understand how you can look me in the eye. SEN. JOE MANCHIN (D), WEST VIRGINIA: I can. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why are you going to vote yes on this? MANCHIN: How do you know how I'm going to vote? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can you tell me how you're going to vote? MANCHIN: (Inaudible) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well how -- how are you not listening to us survivors? MANCHIN: I am listening to you. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you? You're going to get into this elevator. How are you going to vote? Tell me! Tell me! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I love that. Step back. Why are they always saying look at me? We see you, believe me we are averting our gaze. The Democrats brazen intimidation and harassment tactics, I don't know. I think they are total turnoff. Americans just don't like this stuff. Most people just want things to calm down. Well, Rasmussen's daily tracking poll has the president's approval today at 50 percent, not bad. A new (inaudible) poll finds it at 40 percent, a four- point gain from last month. And even better, that same poll shows that the supercharged enthusiasm is on the Republican side. The Democrats advantage tanked from 11 points last month to just two points this month. Still, the Democrats will not give up. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D), CALIFORNIA: The most notable part of this report is what's not in it. As we noted by the White House, the FBI did not interview Brett Kavanaugh nor did the FBI interview Dr. Blasey Ford. SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: Given how limited these documents were and how limited the scope of this investigation was, we are reiterating our call that the documents with proper redaction be made public. Why shouldn't all of America see the facts? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, I think Feinstein should have worn a white scarf for surrender. Don't you think that would've been more appropriate? Well, Americans now have the facts. Democrats wanted a witch hunt and it fizzled over a lack of evidence. The facts Americans will now focus on I think are the ones the left fear the most, the economic record of Donald J. Trump. Jobless claims have dropped to a 49 year low. We now have 4.2 percent GDP growth with projections now to match or exceed that in the upcoming quarter. Manufacturing jobs -- remember President Obama said they were never coming back -- are growing at the fastest rate in 23 years. Trump's Republican Party is actually offering something called results. Also on foreign policy, trade, the agenda that people voted for. Meanwhile, the Democrats offer Americans only this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why aren't you brave enough to talk to us and exchange with us? Don't you wave your hand at me? I wave my hand at you. SEN ORRIN HATCH (R), UTAH: When you grow up I'll be glad to. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When I grow up? How dare you talk to women that way? How dare you talk -- (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Senator, do you believe women? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Is it over yet? Oh, there we go. Well, the door has closed, but Democrats are still howling or screeching, you just heard that. Again, none of this is a governing agenda. It is just more chaos, harassment, anger and agitation. And you really want to vote for more of that in November? And that's THE ANGLE. And joining me now is Code Pink's Ariel Gold, a former clerk for Judge Kavanaugh, Jennifer Mascott, and a former advisor for both President Bush and Vice President Cheney, Mary Matalin. And first to Ariel, got to go with you Ariel. Democrats, they kind of complain that they want an FBI investigation, now they got it and now they are whining that it is not enough. What is enough? Zero corroborating evidence, 46 pages, even Susan Collins seems to say it is very thorough. ARIEL GOLD, CODE PINK: I think the real question is, why so many women Republican senators are not caring about the experiences of women and specifically I was in Susan Collins office tonight with a bunch of protesters, most of whom were her own constituents and she refused to come and meet with them. INGRAHAM: So you just barged in? Is that your new tactic? GOLD: Why shouldn't consistencies be in the office of their representatives? INGRAHAM: Where, you know, that sound of the screaming earlier at the elevator, do you think anyone finds that in any way enticing, influential, attractive, convincing? The screaming is not convincing. It is kind of just cover your ears stuff. I don't understand how you guys think you that is working. Obviously flamed out on this event -- this effort. You got flamed out. GOLD: We saw over 300 people arrested today, thousands of people taking over -- (APPLAUSE) INGRAHAM: Three hundred people. GOLD: This is people power, democracy -- INGRAHAM: I have a question. Do you people have jobs? Do you guys have any jobs? How do you guys do? I know you're Code Pink (inaudible). Do you get paid by Code Pink? GOLD: I am on staff with Code Pink, yes. INGRAHAM: So you get paid to do this. I assume a lot of the other people there are either taking time off from work or their mommy and daddy are paying their bills still. I mean, how does that work? GOLD: This is next generations to come. This is a lifetime appointment. I myself is a mother of two children. My daughter is 15 and I -- INGRAHAM: So you're worried -- GOLD: -- what this means to her. The message that she is getting. INGRAHAM: You are worried that your daughter will not be able to what? GOLD: I am worried my daughter is getting a message from Congress that her experiences, that her safety is not important. INGRAHAM: Is it about abortion? So you're worried your daughter would not be able to get an abortion? GOLD: I'm also worried that my daughter would not have the right to control her own reproduction. INGRAHAM: I just want to know what we are talking about. OK. GOLD: There are multiple things that I'm worried about -- INGRAHAM: OK. That's fine. I just want to know what we're talking about. Mary Matalin, you don't do a lot of TV anymore but you know the Brett Kavanaugh, you've known him for years. He was the Bush staff secretary. He wasn't -- it's not like he is a Trump Republican. He was a Bush guy, a Bush appointee on the D.C. Circuit. But Mary, you saw this play out today. There is a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of anger, a lot of agitation on the left. They feel like they have momentum even if they lose the fight against Kavanaugh. How do you feel? MARY MATALIN, FORMER ADVISER TO PRESDIEBT BUSH: It is anarchy. This is not civil discourse. It is anarchy and it is destruction of the culture. We're sissifying men. You know, in our -- my day of feminism, there was those always been like virulent strain that a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bite. So we've come from not needing men to today's feminist want to castrate men, emasculate men. Do know what's going to affect generations (inaudible) when we don't, when men are behaving like sissies and women are behaving like anarchists, then that's the definition of successful feminism. If you want to stand up for women, what about Ashley, sweet little Ashley Kavanaugh who sat outside of President Bush's office? The epitome of class and decorum. Brett, who had the hardest job by my estimation in the White House as staff secretary, which requires absolute unequivocal discretion and again, decorum. This huge record today, his friend, Joel Kaplan, he's a friend of ours is being attacked on Ffacebook. They will probably run him out of there because he is attended the hearings of Brett Kavanaugh whose wedding he was in and has been friends with for 20 years. People are really -- they're just -- this is transcends politics, Laura. This is really, really about culture and people are sick of everything, from this idiocracy that is infusing and permeating every element of our culture, from football to public restrooms. INGRAHAM: You can't get away from it. MATALIN: You cannot go anywhere. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: You can't go anywhere. You can't do anything. Everybody has to be angry. Go ahead, quickly. MATALIN: Of the many incredible miraculous things that President Trump has done, and this is nothing short of a miracle, what he has got done. But he has done it in the face of constant thwarting and lying and fallaciousness and these barrel (ph) attacks on him and his person and his people. They are chasing his cabinet members and his staff out of restaurants. They are sending private information to senators. He has exposed the hypocrisy and the ineptitude of the loyal opposition, a guy named Dick and Senator Spartacus. People are tuning in and they are saying who are these people? I'm in New Orleans, like, who is this Blumenthal guy or there is Ellison who is -- what is the standard? We don't even know -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: -- words out the window. MATALIN: -- You have a picture of your wife, your girlfriend being beat up and you have medical records and you have no corroboration on BRETT KAVANAUGH and you're destroying his life and his friends life. INGRAHAM: Yes, it's a double standard. MATALIN: People are really -- transcends politics. INGRAHAM: Jennifer, I want to go to you. The cover of "Time" magazine, which you probably have seen, this is like all over the place. Let's look, we're going to put it up on the screen so people see it. And it's a letter to white women who support Brett Kavanaugh. "We need you to stand with women who are breaking the silence in spite of their terror and shame. I believe inside the bodies of some of those women who laughed at the rally where other impulses and feelings they weren't expressing. Time is short, call your senators. Stop laughing and start fighting." That was the (inaudible) of course, "Vagina Monologue." Right? "Vagina Monologue, am I getting that right, Raymond. Yes. So, it's kind of like, you white women, how dare you laugh at survivors. How dare you dismiss survivors? And that is kind of an emotional thing. If someone is a survivor of sexual assault, no one should laugh at them. No one wants to laugh at them and yet this is not how I think a lot of fair-minded people are seeing it at least this particular case. JENNIFER MASCOTT, FORMER CLERK FOR JUDGE KAVANAUGH: So my background of course is you know, is I clerked for Judge Kavanaugh his first year and he is an excellent jurist and he himself has a lot of care for woman. More than half of his law clerk is for women. He has really done an amazing job of mentoring us, keeping up with the us over the years. INGRAHAM: I know. We all know that. We've heard that. I don't mean to interrupt you, but anything that you saw when you are working for him, and he was a judge for 12 years, 12 times three, 36 clerks, right, about? MASCOTT: Forty-eight. INGRAHAM: Forty-eight clerks. I guess you have more than my time with the Court of Appeals -- 48 clerks. Anything you saw in his behavior towards the more than half of the clerks being women would give you pause about the way he treats women? MASCOTT: Absolutely not. INGRAHAM: Nothing? MASCOTT: Absolute character -- No, nothing. He cared for -- INGRAHAM: Nothing untoward. Nothing a little -- MASCOTT: Nothing anywhere close to anything like that. Absolutely gracious, patient, respectful, perfectly above words. INGRAHAM: So were you shocked to hear these allegations when they were first were leaked to the "Washington Post"? MASCOTT: It was shocking. You know, Judge Kavanaugh, along the way, the entire time he has categorically denied them. And, you know, they are totally inconsistent with everything that I've know about him or seen in his presence. And, you know, he's been an advocate for fair law and fair application of the law and for women and men and training up the next generation with warriors. And I think if the senate confirms him to the Supreme Court, he will apply the constitution fairly and really try to look for the justice for all Americans. INGRAHAM: All right, Ariel, what is next for Code Pink? You guys lost this round. He's going to get confirmed. What next? GOLD: Well, we are not done and we're going to be out there again tomorrow and the next day. INGRAHAM: Doing what? Yelling? GOLD: We're going to be out there in the halls and in the streets calling for -- INGRAHAM: What? GOLD: -- somebody who to -- for him to step down and -- INGRAHAM: Him to step down? GOLD: A nomination of somebody with a different temperament, of somebody who hasn't lied under oath, of somebody doesn't have these accusations. And there are I believe tons of people that have squeaky clean records that we could see be nominated. INGRAHAM: OK, so you'd be in favor Amy Coney Barrett if she took his place. A woman, a very strong woman, just seven kids. You'd be in favor of a woman? GOLD: I'm not saying that I would be in favor of them politically but I think that it's (inaudible) appropriate nomination. INGRAHAM: OK. We got Code Pink on the record. Amy Coney Barrett more appropriate than Brett Kavanaugh. Well, watch what you ask for ther. I love this panel. We can talk to you guys for an hour. Thank you so much. And Mary, great seeing you by the way. We want you on more. Here with reaction on how the White House is feeling tonight. We're joined by counselor to the president, Kellyanne Conway. Kellyane, thank you so much for being here tonight and staying up late for us. KELLYANN CONWAY, COUNSELOR TO PRESIDENT TRUMP: Anytime, of course. INGRAHAM: OK, any concern from the White House about where this vote count stands right at this moment? We don't know about Flake. Collins seems like a yes. Murkowski no clue. CONWAY: We are feeling very confident that everything the Democrats and even Dr. Ford has asked to be done in terms of major accommodations over the last two and a half weeks had been done. The FBI supplemental is completed and this is the seventh (inaudible), seventh FBI vetting that has been completed on Judge Kavanaugh including two justice calendar years. So now it is time for vote. And we feel pretty confident. I'm not going to go ahead of those who are still sitting on the fence, but I will tell you, Laura, that there are some red state Democrats who have a really terrible decision to make. They either have to exceed (ph) to the role of their voters who want Judge Kavanaugh confirmed, want that ninth seat filled in the United States Supreme Court, which just started it's new session. Or, they can go and be complacent with the process that has been fraught with hysterics and hyperbole and hyper- partisanship and hapless Democrats trying to undo election results from two years ago, trying to slow down this nomination to get ahead of the midterms elections this year and they have to decide whether they are going to be a part of that leftward drift. They own all of those protesters if they vote against Judge Kavanaugh. They own all the hysterics, all the craziness that you see there. And I think we're going to have the votes and he ought to be confirmed. And by the way, what has happened in her culture, Mary Matalin is absolutely correct. It won't go away once Judge Kavanaugh is on the Supreme Court. (CROSSTALK) CONWAY: -- for the lack of dignity and integrity. INGRAHAM: They are out there tomorrow. They're going to be out there. They're going to be protesting. It's a right to protest. This is America. You have the right to protest as long as it is civil and along as no on gets hurt. CONWAY: Sure. INGRAHAM: Richard Blumenthal in Connecticut, of course, my home state. Senator from Connecticut, said this today about this process, Kellyanne. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: It strikes me as really a neglect of the FBI's duty, but the FBI is not responsible. I think that the blame lies with the White House that straitjacketed this investigation. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: You heard that Kellyanne throughout the protest today that this investigation was circumscribed artificially, the deadline was artificial. The real facts didn't get out. This was a rush job and frankly a con job. That is what the left and the protest today were saying. CONWAY: Well, he is lying and of course he has a history of not being able to tell the truth. He lied about his service in Vietnam. He didn't serve in Vietnam. He served during Vietnam, and that's not just the difference of a word. So, this is somebody who stood right behind Mazie Hirono of Hawaii last week when she said I just want to tell the men of America to shut up and he smirked. And then I guess he didn't understand what she said because he's been talking since. That is one thing I agree with her. He should definitely stop lying about the FBI and this investigation and what the White House did or didn't do. The people that Dr. Ford herself claims couldn't corroborate her allegations were part of the FBI supplemental investigation. And guess what? They couldn't corroborate her allegation it turns out. You have these 10 (ph) sitting senators who have very respectfully come forward (inaudible) and said they think this is a thorough investigation. One of them said there is not a hint of any misconduct and that the allegations have not been corroborated. The point is this. There is no nominee that President Trump is going to put forward that's going to satisfy liberal Dick Blumenthal. There is no nominee that Code Pink will ever like. INGRAHAM: This is about the midterm. CONWAY: They had to admit -- this is about the midterms. But by the way, speaking of the midterms, I want to thank all these crazy liberals because they have done something that wasn't able to do. They have energized -- INGRAHAM: Got to keep it up though. Go to keep it up. Got four more weeks -- five more weeks. CONWAY: There is no question about it, but I just want to tell these folks, of course they have a right to protest and the First Amendment says you can act crazy also, but to coin two phrase from -- INGRAHAM: All right, we got to go Kellyann. CONWAY: Time is up and move on and they ought to think about that. INGRAHAM: All right. Kellyane, thank you so much for making time for us tonight. Up next, we still have a major question on the table about this ongoing drama -- INGRAHAM: All righ, as the confirmation vote for Kavanaugh looks set this weekend, we can forget what happened at the very start of this whole fight. Most importantly, how did reporters get their hands on Christine Ford's account in the first place? Now, "The Washington Post" says that Ford made the initial contact through the anonymous tip line. And only after she had built a rapport with the Post reporter, Emma Brown, did Ford decide to come forward and give her on the record account. But I want to play this moment during the hearing which really jumped out at me when I first watched it, that I don't think it's getting enough attention. Ford was asked about the decision to come forward and said this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD, ACCUSER OF BRETT KAVANAUGH: Ultimately because reporters were sitting outside of my home, a reporter appeared and my graduate classroom and I mistook her for a student and she came up to ask me a question and I thought that she was a student and it turned out that she was a reporter. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: "The Washington Post" in the statement to the INGRAHAM ANGLE tonight reaffirmed that Ford came to them solely through their tip line and that it was reporter's mother outlets who confronted Ford at her home and place of residence. So, where does that leave us? Back to Democratic members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Now remember Senator Feinstein was confronted about possible leaks last week and had this kind of interesting exchange with Senator John Cornyn. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JOHN CORNYN (R), TEXAS: Can you tell us that your staff did not leak it? SEN. DIANNE FENSTEIN (D), CALIFORNIA: Well, I don't believe my staff would leak it. I have not asked that question directly, but I do not believe it. CORNYN: Do you know that? Have you asked your staff or other staff from the judiciary committee? FENSTEIN: I just did. Pardon me? Jennifer reminds me I've asked her before about it. CORNYN: Some of it is true. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, the Jennifer she referenced there is a woman named Jennifer Duck, her longtime chief of staff who now works on the judiciary committee for the Democrats, and seems to be the authority on the question of leaks. We take the Post at their word that their involvement in the story came solely through the tip line, but what we are less clear on tonight is how the other reporters found themselves in possession of Ford's identity? It is strange. We reached out to Feinstein's office for clarity and as of five minutes ago they had not gotten back to us. Here to react, Howard Kurtz, the host of "Media Buzz" right here on Fox News and American Conservative Union head, Matt Schlapp. Alright Howie, let's start with you. Assuming the Post is being honest here, how would we think all these other reporters found out about Ford and her account? HOWARD KURTZ, FOX NEWS HOST: Extremely strong circumstantial evidence that came from Feinstein's staff because staff members don't tell the boss hey, I'm about to leak this. And looks who where the leaks went? First it was the left wing like "The Intercept," they found out about the anonymous letter. Then "The New York Times" said oh, it's about a woman and some sort of sexual thing. And then it was a Buzz Feed reporter, also a liberal site that went to Ford's home and Ford -- where she was teaching. And then finally "The New Yorker" gets the actual letter and publishes it. It was at that point that Christine Ford said, people know who I am, journalist know who I am. I'm going to tell my own story to the "Washington Post." INGRAHAM: But Matt, the idea that some person like Christine Ford just, OK, how can I get his -- I'll just type it on the anonymous tip line. I don't know, it's my spidey sense, something about the story just doesn't add up. And given the importance of guarding these documents, uncorroborated allegations to the Senate Judiciary Committee, to avoid this happening again, shouldn't it be the case that the cellphones, e-mails, text, whether deleted or not are preserved. You can get them back. Any text you delete, sorry, you can get it back. All these are preserved and we find out any connections between Feinstein's office and "The Washington Post" specifically, friendships, romantic relationships between Feinstein's people or friendships and the Post. MATT SCHLAPP, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: Yes. So Adam Thomas and Anita Hill, there was a certain similar things, and one of them is when you go back into this FBI report, only senators can look at it. I think we're going need some learnings out of this, Laura. Here's what we know. Either Dr. Ford is a terrible victim in all of this because she did want to stay confidential or Dr. Ford, in combination with these Democrat staffers and members or may be Anna Eshoo, the Democrat that started this whole thing, and maybe with the lawyers who they found for here, they were trying aggressively to push Dr. Ford to be public. So they were actually leaking on Dr. Ford to get her out there because they wanted the emotions of that hearing. That is what they wanted. They thought that would derail at all. They got the opposite. INGRAHAM: Yes. Howie, "The Washington Post" responded to us today by saying, "No one leaked anything to us. She ultimately decided she was willing to put her name on the record after reporters from other outlets appeared at her home and workplace at which time we chose to publish her story." Again, does that ring true? KURTZ: It is true that "The Washington Post" didn't go with the story without an on the record interviews and saw the therapist notes and all of them. They try to do a legitimate investigation. But I have covered so many of these stories, Laura. What happens is, that it becomes like an open secret. A source tells one reporter, may be a source tells two reporters. Reporters talk to each other. Nobody quite wants to go with it because it's an explosive allegation. They don't have the complainant on the record, but eventually it gets out there and somebody goes and tries to ambush the person or hang out or stalk them. And that is how it eventually gets printed. I believe that Christine Ford was sort of pressured into going publicly. She clearly did not want to do it. INGRAHAM: OK, there is another exchange we have to focus on. This was also regarding the -- what is it, the triangle, what is it called? KURTZ: Devil's triangle. INGRAHAM: Devil's triangle, thank you. This was Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon last night. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: How did he sign it? DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: He signs it, F-F-F-F-F. CUOMO: Boy, he sure loves making fun of that stuttering guy. LEMON: That's not stuttering. CUOMO: That's what he says it was. LEMON: That is not stuttering. Again, do a Google search. That F-F-F-F-F is not stuttering. And Devil's triangle is not a drinking game. He knows that, everybody else does, except for maybe some senators who want to believe him. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Other tweets, I thought this was really fascinating TV. Other tweets, if Judge Kavanaugh is shown to have lied to the committee about Devil's triangle. Jeff Flake, it is over, Jeff Flake, oh, yes. It turns out it was a drinking game and other friends of Kavanaugh gave sworn statements to the FBI. It looks like in this report it was a drinking game guys. Apparently you were a bunch of geeks who never played it. SCHLAPP: You have to give Don Lemon a lot of credit. He seems to know a lot about this. He accused me the other day on his show of being a racist because I had been criticizing Kamala Harris and Cory Booker for their outrageous behavior. What passes for news -- no, it's racism. But it is OK to pick on a Catholic. That is one thing we learned in this whole process. And I just think that, why don't we just cover the facts? I love to know his jurisprudence. What's his philosophy? Drinking games, Devil's triangle. INGRAHAM: Didn't he say that Malaysian jet went down in a black hole some months ago. SCHLAPP: That could be racist too. INGRAHAM: No, he was like, could it have been a black hole? KURTZ: I'm much more careful with "f's". INGRAHAM: I'm of not going anywhere near that, guys. Fantastic segment. We're going to stay on the leak issue, by the way, "Ingraham Angle" investigation will continue. And one week after the explosive Senate remarks became the rallying cry for conservatives behind Judge Kavanaugh, Lindsey Graham stops by and tells us where things stand tonight. Don't go away. INGRAHAM: The man who has really led and galvanized the GOP's efforts to rally behind Judge Kavanaugh is Lindsey Graham. And one week after his fiery call to arms, and I loved it, the senator is feeling more confident than after reading the FBI report on Kavanaugh. Senator Graham joins us how to talk about that and what's next. Senator, thanks so much for being here tonight. What other games can we expect from the Democrats before this thing goes to the final vote? SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, (R) SOUTH CAROLINA: Think of the dumbest idea and they will do it, whatever that is. If they ever write a book about overplaying your hands in politics, this is in the first chapter. The FBI report, supplemental background check, interviewed nine people. They followed the direction of the three senators who asked for more FBI investigation. It came back very good for Judge Kavanaugh, and I would expect these three senators will vote yes. I hope they will because that is what they asked for. INGRAHAM: The complaint from the left, there are a lot of them. And we have a few senators, a few of your friends, and others who commented today. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. ED MARKEY, (D) MASSACHUSETTS: It is obviously a cover-up. The Trump White House working with the Republican leadership in the Senate have deliberately circumscribed this investigation. They're making a mockery of the constitutional requirement that the Senate provide it's advice and consent. SEN. BOB MENENDEZ, (D) NEW JERSEY: That report, if that's an investigation, it's a -- investigation. The reality is that is not a full and thorough investigation. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It's not full, it's not thorough. They didn't interview Kavanaugh, Ford, or Deborah Ramirez's second cousin twice removed. GRAHAM: To my good friends, this is advise and consent. This is your view of the Senate's role is to take a good man's life, turn it upside down, betray Dr. Ford's trust, do everything in the world to destroy him to hold the seat open past the midterms. That is not advise and consent. That is despicable. It is going to blow up in your face. I hope it does, because it was wrong. He's going to get on the court. They have no idea of what the FBI supplemental investigation was about. They made up their mind to vote no before anybody said hello. So here's what the three senators asked for, that the people named by Dr. Ford be interviewed by the FBI, just not the committee, and Ms. Ramirez be interviewed by the FBI. That was done plus four other, five other witnesses. The results are in. Senator Collins and Senator Flake said they thought it was thorough. They thought it was fair. And these two people, who are my friends, have no idea what they're talking about. And let me tell it to my friend, Bob. What you all have done is -- INGRAHAM: Senator Schumer talked about the emotion that drove Christine Ford and the country rallying behind her, and he seems like he has taken this into kind of a midterm pose. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHUCK SCHUMER, (D) SENATE MINORITY LEADER: Dr. Ford came forward and won America's hearts. And our Republican colleagues were upset because that might derail their headlong rush to put Judge Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Your headlong rush, you're rushing this because you want to get it through as fast as possible. There could be more of an investigation. But this was emotionally based, and you saw those protesters today on Capitol Hill, lots of women. They took over the hard office building for I don't know how long. They promised that they are going to keep doing this, Senator Graham. They are going to keep hassling you guys in elevators and cornering you in the halls. And the protest culture, which I talked about at the beginning of the show, is going to continue. GRAHAM: It won't work with me. I think my colleagues feel offended as do Senator Schumer. I've never been more disappointed in you and your party. You're the ones that knew about Dr. Ford's accusations in July. She requested to remain anonymous. It was somebody on your side who leaked it to the press for a political purpose. Somebody, her own lawyers who were advised to be appointed by Senator Feinstein, the most politically active person on the left apparently never told Dr. Ford that they were going to California to avoid her any embarrassment. Please don't use and abuse this woman anymore. Her accusations have not been corroborated. Time, place, location, we don't know any more now than we did before. The people she named say they don't know what she's talking about. So it really offends me that Senator Schumer would continue to abuse Dr. Ford. They are the ones who are playing politics. I voted for Sotomayor and Kagan, never thought twice about it. But I'll tell you right now, this is a defining moment for the 2018 election. This is unfair. INGRAHAM: Let's talk about repercussions for what happened. Either the filing of false affidavits, if that can be proved, possible obviously civil case defamation. But back to this leaking issue, which we talked about on the show tonight before your appearance. It seems like someone is not telling the truth here about what happened on the Senate side. GRAHAM: Sure. INGRAHAM: Do you believe what Diane Feinstein said when she said, I didn't ask anybody, and then she turned around and said, well, oh, no, they tell me I did ask them. No one on my staff leaked this. Do you believe that? GRAHAM: I believe Dianne Feinstein didn't leak it, but I don't know about her staff. I do know this, her staff recommended to Dr. Ford Ms. Katz, who hates Trump, is a politically active leftist lawyer. And apparently Dr. Ford was not told by her legal team. Our committee would have gone to California to do this in private. Somebody on their side leaked an anonymous letter without a postmark -- INGRAHAM: But why not secure their emails and texts? Leaking confidential information, you're going to do that tonight? GRAHAM: Here is what I'm going to do. Anybody who did this is going to pay a price. The people who exposed my name, Senator Lee, Senator Hatch, that person is going to pay a price. My goal if I am the chairman of this committee is to make sure it never happens again. And the best way to make sure it never happens again is to punish those who did it. INGRAHAM: What lesson do you think the president should take out of all this? This was a moment where the party, finally, in my mind, got unified behind what this president wants to do. The economy is on fire. Great judges. NAFTA renegotiated. What's next? GRAHAM: The president should take the following -- if you appoint a good person who gets destroyed in a despicable manner and you fight for him, people will like you more. Whether you are a Trump Republican or a Bush Republican, libertarian or vegetarian Republican, we are all together now thanks to this despicable attack on a good man. Here's what I want the president to know. Do the right thing and fight for it and you will get rewarded. Kavanagh is going to be on the bench. And those who tried to destroy him are going to be looked at, and they are going to pay a price. And I think this is going to help us in the midterms. I hate that this is what it took to help Republicans. But to the other side, you made the biggest mistake of your life. To the three Republicans, you're all friends of mine, if you were a yes before this debacle, please be a yes now because everything they said about him, Judge Kavanaugh, has fallen apart. He is a good man. Seven FBI investigations, 156 people interviewed or a 26 year period. All this stuff is garbage. INGRAHAM: But you were a House impeachment manager back in 1998, I remember it well. And Democrats are pledging, some, that if they take the House they could very well move to impeach Brett Kavanaugh. Getting him convicted will be very difficult to do. Do you expect that to happen if Republicans lose the House and keep this saga going? GRAHAM: I think the Democratic Party has been taken over by irrationality. Hatred is there only platform. It is not about who they like. It is who they hate. And I can't believe in America you have to prove yourself innocent. You're guilty just by the accusation, that there's no requirement to corroborate because you're a Republican. If a Democratic male nominee were treated by the Republicans as Kavanaugh was treated by the Democrats, every media outlet in the country would be up in arms. INGRAHAM: Manchin, real quick, will he vote yes or not on Kavanaugh? GRAHAM: If he listens to the people of West Virginia he will. Brett deserves your vote, Joe. He is my friend, I've known him a long time. If you listen to Schumer, then the people of West Virginia are going to remember it. INGRAHAM: Lindsey Graham, thank you so much for being with us. GRAHAM: Thank you. INGRAHAM: Brett Kavanaugh's FBI background check came out clean, but for Democrats that of course isn't enough, never will be. Up next, two former FBI agents give us insight into how this investigation likely played out. Behind the scenes, don't go away. SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, (D) CONNECTICUT: This set of interviews is at best, most charitably, woefully incomplete. To put it bluntly, it smacks of a whitewash, even a cover-up. SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN, (D) CALIFORNIA: The most notable part of this report is what is not in it. CHUCK SCHUMER, (D) SENATE MINORITY LEADER: We had many fears that this was a very limited process. Having received a thorough briefing on the documents, those fears have been realized. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Tonight, Senate Democrats are certain that the FBI didn't conduct a full investigation into the still uncorroborated charges against Brett Kavanaugh. So what happens in an FBI investigation like this anyway? We wanted to hear from two men, decades of experience in background checks between them. Here is studio with me is Steve Pomerantz. He's a former FBI assistant director. And from Phoenix, John Iannarelli. He's a former FBI national spokesperson and special agent. Gentlemen, great to have you both with us. Steve, I want to start with you. What do you make of the Democrats complaint that this couldn't be an investigation question, only five days, and given the timeline? STEVE POMERANTZ, FORMER FBI ASSISTANT DIRECTOR: Let's start with the reality here. There's not a one of them who was ever interested in the truth to begin with. If the FBI would've spent two weeks, they would've wanted seven weeks. If the FBI would have interviewed 1,000 people they would have wanted 2,000. If they went back to grade school, they would want the FBI to go back to preschool to see what happened there. So let's start with that as a reality. They did a surgical investigation of focusing on some specific allegations that were made. And that is what they did. That is what they set out to do, and that is what they did. Kind of end of story, but it is not the end of the story, we both know that. And it is never going to end. INGRAHAM: It's not good enough. John, Ford's lawyers today filed basically their own protest in a letter. And they said that they demanded that Ford be interviewed -- the report is done, but it's like sound and fury signifying nothing at this point, but that Ford needs to be interviewed, and Kavanaugh I guess, and that they need to interview Ford's husband, her various friends, and of course, her. And that without that, what does this all mean? This is just a big rush job by the Republicans get this thing done. Is there any way, shape, or form that this could be reopened at this late date, or is this just a silly howling at the moon at this point? JOHN IANNARELLI, FORMER FBI SPECIAL AGENT: It sounds to me as if Ford's attorneys need to be explained what is hearsay, because interviewing people that weren't present and after the fact, any comments she may have said, is not relevant to an FBI investigation. This case is not going to be reopened for the simple fact this is investigation number seven. It's not a lean report. There's 40 solid pages, single space type. A lot of information. Just like Steve said, every detail was narrowed down to what this very surgical investigation was. It is complete. INGRAHAM: Steve, why didn't the interview Kavanaugh again, and Ford? POMERANTZ: The argument is that they've got all they need from all the testimony and all the investigations preceding. Actually, I was hoping they would interview her, because she has told her story more than once, but never been subject to a serious interview. I would want to say, but a penetrative, exhaustive, face to face, impartial investigation. And that would've happened had the FBI interviewed her. I know we are dealing in a very sensitive area when it comes to people who allege these kinds of activities, but nevertheless, I am sure the bureau would have done that, and I think it would've been a good thing to do. So it's a matter of -- INGRAHAM: John, 15 seconds. They only have one copy of the report. Senators get a half hour each to review it. Fair, unfair? IANNARELLI: I think it's fair. These are the rules that were set up under President Obama. If they want to change the rules for the future, by all means, they can read 40 pages in a half hour. INGRAHAM: Speed read, Evelyn Wood, they can handle it. Guys, thanks so much. And I have a question. Where to these fence sitting senators, they're still fence sitting, stand at this hour, and what does the next 48 hours look like to the Kavanaugh confirmation vote? A live report next. INGRAHAM: It has taken a while, but we are now in the final 48 hours before a confirmation vote for Judge Brett Kavanaugh. And at this hour there are still a number of key votes ahead. For the latest on where we stand we are joined now by FOX News reporter Gillian Turner. And Gillian, what else can you tell it? GILLIAN TURNER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: So Laura, tonight all eyes remain laser focused on the key Republican swing votes. That's Collins, Murkowski, and Flake. So far Collins and Flake spoke positively about the FBI report, but Murkowski says she needs more time, something in short supply for the pressure cooker that is Capitol Hill tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MITCH MCCONNELL, (R) SENATE MAJORITY LEADER: This process has been ruled by fear and anger and underhanded gamesmanship for too long. It is time to stand up to this kind of thing. SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN, (D) MASSACHUSETTS: This is about hijacking our democracy. I am angry. I own it. (END VIDEO CLIP) TURNER: But earlier tonight, a new wrench in the plan. Senator Steve Daines, Republican of Montana, said he wouldn't be available on Saturday at any point, even if there was a vote for Kavanaugh who he strongly supports. Daines was slated to be in Montana walking his daughter down the aisle. Originally his office told FOX News with the fluid timing of the FBI report release they couldn't avoid a potential schedule conflict. But FOX News can confirm he spoke tonight directly with Brett Kavanaugh. His office says he has made arrangements to be there to get him across the finish line as needed. Now, without Daines on the Hill for that vote, the math would have been critical for McConnell. He would have needed every single one and the 50 remaining Republicans to vote yes. That has been Flake, Murkowski, and Collins, or two of those three plus Manchin. Now the Senate is slated to convene tomorrow morning at 9:30 a.m., and by rule this triggers the procedural vote at 10:30. If the Senate invokes cloture at 11:00, they then have 30 hours max until the confirmation vote. If they take all of that 30 hours, this puts us at about 5:00 p.m., Laura, on Saturday for the vote. (APPLAUSE) INGRAHAM: Yey. Are you covering the protests tomorrow? TURNER: I'm going to give you my bike helmet. You need to wear a bike helmet and some type of protective gear. Good luck today, tomorrow with the protestors. Great to have you on set. And we'll be right back with the last bite. INGRAHAM: It is time for the last bite. Halloween is right around the corner, and President Trump knows what scares him the most. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Can you imagine Nancy Pelosi as speaker of the House? Don't do that to me. I didn't buy into that. Neither did you. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I think it was six years ago I actually dressed up as Nancy Pelosi and I carried around a copy of Obamacare, the Obamacare bill. I scared everyone in my neighborhood. Load-Date: October 5, 2018 End of Document Sources to Hannity: The FBI Report is Done; Republicans Knew that No Matter What They Do to be Fair in the Kavanaugh Case, Democrats Won't Stop Doing Delaying Tactics Regardless if Kavanaugh's Accuser Don't Have Corroborating Evidence to Support Her Claims; Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell Just Filed for Cloture to End Debate on the Kavanaugh Nomination; Friday is Set Up for the Procedural Vote, and the Possible Confirmation Could Happen by Saturday; A Suspect Who Broke into the Congressional Office Could Face Serious Charges after He Was Caught Stealing Lawmaker's Information and Posting It Online Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 3, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7280 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Tammy Bruce, Jeanine Pirro, Newt Gingrich, Sara Carter, Andrew McCarthy, Gregg Jarrett Guests: Joe DiGenova, Carrie Severino Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. And from Washington, D.C., welcome to HANNITY. This is a Fox News alert: we can report sources are telling us tonight the FBI supplemental report on Judge Kavanaugh is now complete, it is done, and my sources say the Senate is now in possession of copies. And they will be looking at it tomorrow. My sources are also telling me tonight, no new bombshell information in this report. It just reiterates what we already know. From the Senate Judiciary Committee investigation, and what they have already found. And now, it's time for senators to step up and do their job and vote. Enough with the delay tactics, enough with the smears and the slander. We have a lot more on this in just a moment tonight. Also, the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, he has been stonewalled by Professor Ford's partisan legal team. They are denying all access to very extremely important pieces of evidence and this comes as new questions are being raised about Professor Ford's testimony by a longtime ex-boyfriend. We'll bring you that report. And also tonight, now that the smears and the FBI investigation are not working, don't be surprised because the Democrats, they want to shift the topic. Now, they want the vote to be about temperament and whether Judge Kavanaugh threw ice at a bar at somebody in college. Any Republican that allows the slander to become the new standard in this country is a disgrace. It will never end and you will be encouraging this behavior. We have all the latest examples of the left trying to govern by mob rule as they continue to stop over simple, basic, American human rights, decency, due process, and something called the presumption of innocence. And, by the way, a heavy dose of common sense and so much more. But we are watching is a thirst for power that knows no bounds. Lying, smearing, besmirching, bludgeoning, bullying, to score cheap political victories, no matter how many lives are destroyed in the process. And, of course, your friends in the corrupt media, the best friends of the Democrats, they are cheering all of this on, moving from story to story, raising the bar day after day, all to malign the president, and anybody and everybody around him. All right. Stay tuned for tonight's jam-packed Washington, D.C., swamp breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. So, as we just reported moments ago, sources are telling me tonight the FBI has in fact completed their background check on Judge Kavanaugh. All 100 senators and nine staff members will have access to that report, which will be kept in a safe for the Senate Judiciary Committee. Now, this comes as the chairman of that committee, Chuck Grassley, is sounding the alarm about obstruction coming from Professor Ford's extremely bitterly partisan legal team. Now, this week, we told you about this, the Judiciary Committee requested access to material evidence of Professor Ford's sexual misconduct claims, including notes for her therapy sessions that she already had handed over to "The Washington Post." Any reportings of her polygraph test, and Professor Ford's attorney are flatly denying the Senate Judiciary's request. So much for a real investigation. And tonight in a letter, Grassley fired back. He wrote, quote: The Constitution tasks the Senate, not the media or the FBI, with providing advice and consent for Supreme Court nominees. It is beyond disappointing that Dr. Ford's attorneys were willing to share evidence with "The Washington Post" many weeks ago but to this day refused to share the same evidence which Dr. Ford relied on in her testimony with the U.S. Senate. It's important to remember that Ford's attorney, Debra Katz, as you see on the screen, she is a far left, huge, big- time Democratic donor. Remember, she was the one that was recommended by Dianne Feinstein. He wouldn't tell the Republicans about the whole issue for weeks and weeks, after -- two weeks after, and once vowed to resist Donald Trump. We've showed you that tape on ABC. Katz has not been cooperative with a committee from the very beginning, stalling whenever and however possible. And according to Professor Ford's sworn testimony, her attorneys never even released numerous and persistent attempts from Senator Grassley and Republicans to arrange an interview with Senate Judiciary investigators. Debra Katz is not to be trusted. Her motivations, again, recommended by Dianne Feinstein, have long been political, including multiple instances when she defended Bill Clinton and creepy Al Franken from their misconduct allegations. She even made light twice of Paula Jones' accusations against Clinton, saying that Jones -- oh, she suffered no repercussions because the incident only lasted 10 to 12 minutes. He exposed himself in front of Paula Jones and he wanted a sexual favor. I thought Dianne Feinstein recommended a lawyer. I thought this woman was supposed to be a champion of women's rights. It's only true for Democratic women. And meanwhile, Professor Ford is facing some allegations of her own. In a written declaration to the U.S. Senate, a man who was Professor Ford's longtime boyfriend between 1992 and '98 is raising serious issues about her testimony tonight. During the hearing, Ford claimed to have issues with confined spaces, riding in airplanes, homes with only one door, because of PTSD symptoms surrounding her alleged sexual assaults. According to her former boyfriend, whose name has been redacted, Ford never expressed these issues with small spaces. She frequently flew in airplanes to and from Hawaii, lived in a small 500 square foot apartment, with only one door, never mentioned anything about being assaulted. He also claimed that Ford once counseled a friend on how to pass a polygraph test prior to a job interview with the FBI, a claim that friend has denied. Now, remember, during Ford's testimony, she emphasized her total and experience with polygraphs. And naturally, ABC, CBS -- well, they have totally ignored the story during their morning coverage. That is called bias of omission. It shouldn't shock us. Now, meanwhile, in case of just plain bias, "The Daily Caller" is reporting that three different NBC News stories on Judge Kavanaugh, three of them, face huge accuracy issues. By the way, Andy Lack, Tom Brokaw, are you proud of your network? Tom Brokaw, the brand you spent a lifetime building, are you happy now to be an arm of the Democratic Party? And as you can see, the left does not care about evidence, due process, presumption of innocence, the Constitution, none of it. They don't even care with this impending FBI report will uncover or not uncover. Dianne Feinstein doesn't want to show it to you. Almost all Democrats have been against Brett Kavanaugh or whoever the president would have chosen from day one. They are only now pretending to care about allegations against Kavanaugh because they want to stop the confirmation vote. To them, sadly, this is about power and political gamesmanship. Whether or not Kavanaugh is guilty makes no difference in the Democrats in this pursuit of power. Something by the way even Spartacus himself, Senator Cory Booker, admitted to during a recent interview. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: So, my hope is that beyond vicious partisan rancor that is going on, beyond the accusations, we don't lose sight of what this moral moment is about in this country and ultimately ask ourselves the question, is this the right person to sit on the highest court in the land for a lifetime appointment? Ultimately, not whether he is innocent or guilty, this is not a trial, but, ultimately, has enough questions be raised that we should not move on to another candidate? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: If enough questions are raised, well, you can't get on a court? Is that now the new, modern Democratic Party, guilty as long as there's enough accusations? Guilty of all charges regardless of what the evidence shows? This is so reckless. Think of where this can take us! And if what Cory Booker said is the new standard -- well, guess what, Spartacus, you should not be a senator based on your own standards and your own words. Remember he once bragged about your own sexual assault as a young man writing about groping a woman in high school, even after she said no and pushed you away. Bye-bye, Spartacus. I guess it's time for you to leave the U.S. Senate in shame. Now, that's why we call them the party of smears. This is why I keep bringing up the idea of slander, and lies, and character assassination, and family bludgeoning, all for political power over -- and sacrificing the rule of law and justice. Things we should all hold deeply, that should not be political. As we speak, they are doing anything and everything to stall, scared Senator Jeff snowflake and others into voting against Kavanaugh's nomination and now moving the bar is much as they can. Maybe it's about temperament, not about what the FBI says. And as we predicted, the new talking point is the current FBI inquiry is being rushed. We don't trust the FBI? This despite absolutely no request from the FBI that more time is needed at all. It's all about delay. Now, we're going to talk about temperament, now we're going to talk about, well, maybe he didn't tell us exactly, exactly how much you drink, even though he said he drank a lot of beer and still drinks beer and sometimes drink too much beer. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. BEN CARDIN (D), MARYLAND: I trust the FBI. I hope they had the latitude, the time in order to get the job done right. SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D), NEW JERSEY: The Republicans held up a seat when Justice Scalia passed away for nearly a year. So, there is no reason to ram this through. There should be a full investigation of all of the allegations that have been raised and whatever other witnesses follow on as a result of the discussion or the interviews of both witnesses. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Senate should allow the FBI to pursue all the evidence and not to cap where they may go or put a leash on the investigation. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The FBI is very close to wrap the investigation. In fact, it could wrap as early today. Does that strike you a sufficient time or does that feel rushed? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That would concern -- (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, more time, we want more time. Let's change the topic. Let's talk about something else. Let's investigate this or that. Last- minute investigations. So, yet, in another last ditch effort to smear Judge Kavanaugh, destroy his family, Senate Democrats are demanding for Senate Judiciary Committee retract the following tweet. Quote: Nowhere in any of these six FBI reports, which the committee has reviewed on a bipartisan basis, was there ever a whiff of any issue at all related in any way to inappropriate sexual behavior or alcohol abuse. Senate Democrats revealed zero evidence over why that tweet should be redacted. And the Senate Judiciary Committee fired back. Quote: Nothing in the tweet is inaccurate or misleading. The committee stands by its statement, which is completely truthful. More baseless innuendo, more false smears from Senate Democrats. As you can see the Democratic Party, they are the smear machine now in full gear and full panic. They don't want this boat. It's really despicable to watch. Think about what this means for your kids and your grandkids and the future of this country. Guilt by accusation. Enough accusations, you're done. Now, that is why they are flailing. And there's all these questions now -- oh, let's talk about his temperament. Forget the FBI report we demanded. How was someone accused -- get this, think of this yourself -- you are accused of systematically, regularly, drugging young teenage girls, being involved in -- well, frequent gang raping of young teenage girls. What is the proper reaction? What should the temperament be of somebody if you are falsely accused? What would you expect them to say very quietly, I'm innocent? Or do you think they would have such indignation, righteous indignation, anger, and outrage, that they want to make it as clear as possible they are innocent? I think the latter is how most people would probably react. And the far left mob, they are in overdrive. Remember, Maxine Waters, get in their faces. Well, guess what, Maxine, it's happening. Breaking tonight: congressional intern of a Democrat Sheila Jackson Lee has been arrested after he publicly posted sensitive information of pro-Kavanaugh Republican senators online. This is extraordinarily dangerous. And over the weekend, we saw Senator Mitch McConnell accosted in an airport after Ted Cruz, after Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen, after, you know, Sarah Sanders. Yesterday, a Republican congressman was actually assaulted in his Capitol Hill office by an angry group of protesters who question his door. In Texas, another angry mob confronting a group of pro-Kavanaugh students at UT-Austin. Take a look at this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (INAUDIBLE) (EXPLETIVES DELETED) CROWD: We believe survivors! We believe survivors! We believe survivors! We believe survivors! (INAUDIBLE) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's pretty violent. (INAUDIBLE) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Do you want this kind of behavior rewarded? What you think the outcome will be? It will be more and more radicalism, more and more allegations, make enough of them and you get your way. Basically mob rule, no law and order. Now, do you care about due process and the presumption of innocence? Because those three Republicans, we have, of course, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Jeff snowflake. You are the ones that are going to decide, because if you go along with this it after you got what you wanted, this is what your future and our future as a country will be. Now, Republicans won an election, we had a president that actually gave the names of the people he would consider pointing to the Supreme Court and he won mike. People want people want originalists, constitutionalists, confirmed for the Supreme Court. That is where they voted for. Look at this Fox News poll that just came out. The answer is yes. Republicans are now making gains in top Senate races all across the country and Republican enthusiasm has now increased significantly. Look at your screen. Now, these are the people who will decide the fate of Judge Kavanaugh, the future of the country. You want to call these people? Feel free to do so. Call their office, call the hotline, call the main line, I urge you to be polite. I think that is respectful of the office. Thirty-four days from tonight, and we'll know the results of the midterms. Those five senators, they choose to go along, move the bar, stop Kavanaugh because of what our uncorroborated allegations at every case. No evidence in every case. You know what is going to happen. They vote against Kavanaugh and guess what? They are up for reelection vote and you can vote them out. This is about whether or not we want to live in a country, the United States of America, where smears are rewarded and America where we accept character assassination on a regular basis, where we have no problem destroying political lives with no evidence, corroboration, and it can happen to you. An America where we throw out all due process out the window. We're willing to reward this behavior. And if Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Jeff snowflake, if they try and make this about anything other than what they asked for, a limited FBI report that is now complete, I will say they have zero character or honor themselves. And they will be responsible as this happens again and again and again, because Democrats -- they don't have a plan. Listen to any of them. What are they saying h they will do to improve the country? All you get from the Democrats is we know they want to impeach 45. They want impeachment. They want endless investigations into Trump and even Kavanaugh if he gets on the court. They want to impeach him. They want their crumbs back. They want higher taxes. They want to get rid of ICE. They want open borders. They want leftist judges that legislate from the bench. They want Obamacare. How is that working out for you? That's their agenda in 34 nights. You head to the polls, you get to vote. In House races, take a look on your screen. See if that's your district because if it is, it matters. And ask yourself one question. Is America better off than we were two years ago? When you vote one of the Senate races that you see on your screen, take note from the economy, to security, and national security, and trade deals, and eliminating burdensome regulations, the biggest tax cut in history, and all of these things. Well, that's all going to come to a halt if Republicans lose in November. You don't vote, you will get the government you deserve. If these lawmakers give into this tactic, it will happen again and again and again. He will be rewarding reckless, irresponsible, absolutely outrageous behavior and character assassination. You want to be a part of that? You choose and 34 days. Joining us now, author of the number one "New York Times" best seller, "Liars, Leakers, Liberals," the host of "Justice," Judge Jeanine Pirro. Fox News contributor Tammy Bruce. Welcome, both of you. Tammy, we'll start with you tonight. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Sure. HANNITY: It seems like -- and I have a source telling me on Capitol Hill that the three Republicans are now trying to move the bar. The three that ask for the FBI investigation, that Dianne Feinstein doesn't want to release to us. They say, well, maybe the temperament isn't right because he got angry after he was accused of being a serial drugger of teenage girls and gang rapist and he got angry. BRUCE: Yes. Look, I've got a column out today in "The Washington Times" that actually speaks to that. After what he was accused of, and that they tried to politically assassinate himself and his family, if he did not react in the way that he reacted, that would have been the strange dynamic. He responded in a way that any normal, reasonable person would respond when facing those kinds of horrific allegations that were false. So, the American people saw that for themselves. What we do know and I think those three Republicans and Democrats should be concerned about tonight from NPR showing that the Democrat enthusiasm gap that existed, they used the word, Sean, evaporated. The enthusiasm benefit that the Democrats had over the Republicans has evaporated since mid-September to this point. In other words, because of the Kavanaugh hearings. So, the signal now -- I trust the American people for exactly this reason. They saw what we saw. They care about the Constitution, so does Brett Kavanaugh. And what they saw are a bunch of senators and other politicians who do not. We like the rule of law. We care about fairness. We want -- we don't want to be told that we're now guilty until proven innocent. This has been rejected. They are now seeing that in the polls. You are going to see this and I have been saying this really from the beginning when I saw this period -- HANNITY: Well, let me just say this -- BRUCE: -- that Democrats were going to regret what they done. HANNITY: I cannot confidently, Judge Pirro, tell our audience tonight, that in 34 days, that the House is not going to be in the hands of Nancy Pelosi. I cannot confidently say that Chucky Schumer is not going to be the Senate majority leader. And I cannot confidently say that somebody like Maxine Waters with her reckless rhetoric, you know, get in their faces, et cetera, follow people into gas stations and grocery stores, won't be chairing committees. I don't have a crystal ball. I don't -- midterms are very tricky. JUDGE JEANINE PIRRO, FOX NEWS HOST, "JUSTICE WITH JUDGE JEANINE": They are very tricky. We know the history is against us with respect to the House in this particular year, given that this is the president's first term. But I have to tell you, Sean, you are absolutely right, because this is what it comes down to. It comes down to the November `18 midterms. We are experiencing a paradigm shift in this nation unlike anything I have ever seen or read about. And that is the upending of the criminal justice system and the Constitution. You talk about all the time but it's been my life for 30 years. And every judge has a book called "Jury Instructions" that talks about the presumption of innocence, that talk about the burden of proof on the accuser. All of that is being thrown away, not subtlety, but openly by people like Cory Booker. This is not he said-she said, it's a he said-she said-they said, and everyone she used as an alibi with Dr. Ford is someone who has contradicted her. HANNITY: Let me ask you -- well, Cory said there is enough allegations, that's enough to end this right here. I'm like, if that's the standard, it's done. Where does is my term go in 34 days? Twenty seconds each. We'll start with Tammy. BRUCE: Look, I think we're going to be fine. I think the American people, this is a wake-up call. It is, though, about getting out. And you're right, Sean. There can be no room for anybody who cares about President Trump's agenda, no matter what your party, we know he has a part of independence and even some Democrats. If you want the future to be one that you can trust for your sons and your daughters, you've got to vote and you've got to vote for the people who support the president. HANNITY: Judge? PIRRO: OK. But here is what my concern is. Look, everyone's got to get out there to vote, whether you think a victim, accuser, that's not it. It's about the system and Constitution. My concern is they get out the vote and new people who have been registered to vote. HANNITY: Thirty-four days. PIRRO: We've got to make sure they get out there and register and then vote. HANNITY: You want to reward this behavior, you're going to get more of it. PIRRO: That's right. HANNITY: Thank you both. When we come back, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich right here in studio. Breaking news on the Supreme Court, that's coming up straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with reaction to tonight's breaking news, the author of "The New York Times" bestseller, "Trump's America: The Truth about America's Great Comeback," former speaker of the House, Fox News contributor, Newt Gingrich. Great to see you. NEWT GINGRICH, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Great to be with you. HANNITY: Now, the bar seems to be moving. I have a source telling me, well, the three Republican senators, Murkowski, Collins, snowflake, sorry, it's my nickname, now maybe it's about temperament, maybe he didn't respond the right way when he went before the Senate and was shown righteous anger and indignation after being accused of being a gang rapist. GINGRICH: I would be very surprised if Susan Collins would do that. I think she's a serious person. I think she really set a standard, said, let's get an investigation. Apparently, we don't know, but apparently, the FBI came back and said there is nothing there. HANNITY: It's -- they reiterated the Senate Judiciary Investigation. GINGRICH: Yes. HANNITY: Nobody changed his history. GINGRICH: My guesses, you've got Senator Collins and Senator Murkowski, solid people that talk this through. I think they will vote for the judge. I don't know what Flake will do. Although he is indicated pretty clearly if the FBI comes back with nothing, he's going to vote yes. I think the odds are pretty high that Manchin, senator from West Virginia, is going to vote yes. When you're in a state where Trump's got 46 percent margin, you have a certain level of -- if you are up for reelection -- presumption. So, I think tonight, things will change but my sense is tonight that you're going to have either Saturday or Monday, a vote, a yes vote, and he's going to be confirmed. HANNITY: All right. So, I hope you're right. Thirty-four days from now -- I know you back in '94. You -- the day before the election, I saw you, and the day of the election I saw you. This is the night you became speaker of the house. GINGRICH: Yes. HANNITY: This is, you know, a foundation of renewing America's civilization, culminating in a Contract with America, culminating in Republicans coming to power for the first time in 40 years, and confident, oh, we're going to win. That's a pretty bold prediction considering the Republicans hadn't won in 40 years. GINGRICH: Yes. HANNITY: But you are right. You have a degree of optimism about the election and 34 days. Maybe it's because I'm Irish, because I'm always expecting the worse the next second of any day, but I don't have that confidence that you do. GINGRICH: Well, you know, I think I'm a lot like Reagan in that I really believe in the American people. I really believe the average American saw all of this character assassination, smearing, dishonesty, and manipulation. And I think they look at a Republican team led by Trump that is a really delivering and getting things done. And so, then, they look over here at these Democrats who have really been trying to block everything. And that the results over here, real results, jobs, breakthroughs on trade, things that are happening that are tremendous. And you look over here at these people who seem to fight everything. And I said, this is what happened to me in 2016, because I remember doing a show with Megyn Kelly two weeks out. And I finally said, you know, I just don't believe it, in fact, it's in the tape. I said I don't think the American people are going to like somebody as corrupt as Hillary Clinton, period. I just didn't believe it about the American people. Now, it's a close race. I do not believe tonight that the American people are going to reward left-wing socialists, people who want to obstruct everything, by giving them power. So I'm moderately optimistic. I wouldn't bet the family farm, but I might bet a horse or two. HANNITY: OK. I didn't even know you had horses, but I'm glad to hear it. But, look, it comes down to individual districts. GINGRICH: Right. HANNITY: This is -- and there are a lot of new people, lots of retirements this year. That raises an unknown question. I do think Manchin is in trouble, I think Nelson is in trouble, I think Donnelly is in trouble, I think Claire McCaskill is in trouble. I think they're down 12 now in the Fox polls. GINGRICH: Tester is in trouble. HANNITY: Tester in Montana. There are a lot that can happen. Some of these races are very close, but some incumbent-- (CROSSTALK) GINGRICH: I think the Senate-- HANNITY: Yes. GINGRICH: We are very -- and by the way, I think in Minnesota, you are going to have -- you have a very real possibility of an upset because I think that the Republican nominee is a very attractive woman. And I think the Democratic nominee who was a lieutenant governor has to carry this whole burden of Keith Ellison. And given everything Democrats have said about you know, unsubstantiated allegations, I mean, how does she campaign on a ticket with the guy who said two different women say that he abused them? HANNITY: Why didn't they ask for an FBI investigation into him or if we are going back to Kavanaugh's teenage years, we could at least go back to the time that Bill Clinton was the Arkansas attorney general, can't we? GINGRICH: Well, that's one as you open this one. And I saw -- I just think you know the president will be in Minnesota tomorrow, he is going to have a chance I think to-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Four important House seats in Minnesota, California, New York. GINGRICH: Right. HANNITY: States that you wouldn't think, where the House is in play. GINGRICH: And a number of these places, he is going to be able to go in and campaign for the House member and the senatorial candidate. And you can see a sweep building that would be breathtaking. And I think on the Senate side, we're going to clearly gain seats. HANNITY: You're the historian, it's only happened three times in 100 years. The party wins the White House and doesn't lose seats in the first midterm. (CROSSTALK) GINGRICH: All I tell you, look-- HANNITY: -- in 2002. GINGRICH: I don't want to sound silly about this, but all I can tell you as a historian is, you've never had Donald Trump. I mean, you are in a different world right now. You got -- you have somebody who is a great natural campaigner and draws huge crowds. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All these supporters understand that what they voted for in 2016 that they have tried to tear down almost from day one, and destroy him, do you think that they know that that's all in jeopardy? GINGRICH: I think that the liberals' assault on Kavanaugh has aroused conservatives and moderates, decent people, people who believe in the rule of law, people who believe in fairness. I was in Phoenix yesterday with about 850 people at a radio station-- HANNITY: That's not quite the size of a Trump rally. GINGRICH: No, no. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I'm just teasing. GINGRICH: Look, and neither he nor I get six million people in the evening. HANNITY: OK. I appreciate that. GINGRICH: We don't quite get a Hannity broadcast. But the point is, the people I saw were on fire. They are so and they want to elect McSally. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They should be. GINGRICH: And they want to make sure that we-- HANNITY: She's a great candidate. GINGRICH: -- break the House. Yes. And she'll be a great U.S. senator-- (CROSSTALK) GINGRICH: Sally Heller in Nevada, those are all races that could be -- there could be -- listen, it's close. GINGRICH: It is close. HANNITY: Every vote is going to matter. GINGRICH: So I'm going to be an optimist that say, if we get out to vote, if we tell our story, if we don't let up, we're going to do fine. HANNITY: Mr. Speaker, good to see you. GINGRICH: Great to be with you. HANNITY: Thanks for dropping by. GINGRICH: Thank you. HANNITY: Great to be in the swamp where you live. No, you live in Italy now, I forgot. Congratulations. When we come back, Pam Bondi, Joe DiGenova, Sara Carter, all the very latest, the breaking news on the Kavanaugh nomination, the FBI report is finished. More details when we come back. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now to talk more and with more reaction to tonight's big breaking news, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Joe DiGenova, Fox News contributor Sara Carter. Full disclosure, Joe has done some work for me in the past. He's a great lawyer, if you need him. He fights, he is tough as nails. Sara, let's start with, first of all, this doxxing suspect found late last night in the congressional office of a member whom he didn't work, also affiliated with Feinstein? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Affiliated with Feinstein and-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He has doxxing history. CARTER: Yes. So he basically broke into the office, he stole files. He is apparently very familiar with computer technology. That's what he did. HANNITY: Sending out information. CARTER: Sending out information. So he basically stole information, senators' addresses and telephone numbers, sent it out over the internet. Of course, he was discovered. He was an intern for Sheila Jackson-Lee. HANNITY: Right. CARTER: He is in huge trouble, Sean. He is facing criminal felony and prison time for this. I know that Joe and I were talking about it. HANNITY: It's outrageous. CARTER: It's outrageous. And it is showing you how far the left has gone. HANNITY: They are giving out home addresses now, senators. CARTER: How dangerous is this? HANNITY: Very. CARTER: People can show up at their homes. We don't know what dangerous people are out there. And I think the American people are starting to see right now, how terrible and how dangerous this has become, basically to the fundamentals of our Constitution and to our own life, and safety, and liberty. HANNITY: Joe, what about the bar moving? Well, we got the FBI report in tonight, which we did, maybe we need to focus more on temperament. he react, he got pretty, pretty pissed off after he is accused of being a serial dragger of teenage girls and serial rape, gang rapist? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY, COLUMBIA DISTRICT: Well, there's no doubt that the Democrats from the very beginning have wanted to delay the proceedings passed in the November election in the hopes of taking the Senate. It's been a despicable tactic, if it had been just been delay and if they were just going to throw grease, you know, into the wheels, that's one thing. But they decided to get their delay by trying to destroy a man, destroy his wife and destroy his family. HANNITY: Anyway, how does he get his good name back now? DIGENOVA: What they have done now is drag the Senate into one of the most despicable moments since the McCarthy era, and yet, every one of those 10 Democrats on the committee doesn't care. But the American people have to understand, and this is a new Democratic Party. This is not your mother's Democratic Party or your grandmother's, this is a party of anarchists and communists. The Democratic Party has become the party of the far left and they will do anything to get power back. HANNITY: Jacksons Joe Liebermann. DIGENOVA: My gosh. HANNITY: No more. DIGENOVA: Can you imagine what they would think-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: John F. Kennedy would not represent this party. He was not this person. Pam, let me ask you this. We have three Senate Republicans who are watching closely. Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and Senator Snowflake. And nobody knows what they are going to do. They're not talking to anybody. Signs that some might be questioning moving the bar about temperament. Maybe, well, did he not tell us exactly how much beer he drank. He threw ice in an incident in a bar when he was at Yale. I used to be a bartender and that is probably the least significant thing that I saw when I was 17, 18, 19 and 20 tending bar. PAM BONDI, FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Sean, every single one of the senators on the judiciary committee they need to read their job description. The judiciary committee was created to look out for constitutional issues and they are turning the Constitution on its head. And let me tell you. Senator Murkowski she better be taking notes because she is an attorney. Of the three you mentioned she is the only attorney. And she should understand that Brett Kavanaugh walked in there guilty and had to prove his innocence. And she should understand that the court of public opinion can destroy someone sometimes more than a criminal conviction can. So these people on that committee need to look at the law as we talked about the presumption of innocence, we talked about due process. We are watching it, our country, our world play out in real time about a man who has come in there and prove his innocence. HANNITY: Do any of the senators have families and worry that one day, as Cory Booker says, that's enough accusations. That's enough. CARTER: Well, it doesn't end here. If we don't fight for this, if our Senate Judiciary Committee does not do the right thing, once this FBI report-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's out of judiciary, it's now the Senate. CARTER: Yes, it's the Senate. The Senate has to do the right thing here. And the FBI report will be in, we know this. We know based on sources, based on your sources, and based on my sources, they did not find anything. The most sacred principle in the United States Constitution, and our basic fundamental law is that you are innocent until proven guilty. They have tried to destroy this man's life, destroy his family, destroy his children, and now, I think the American people, Sean, are not buying this. They are going to go to the voting polls. HANNITY: Joe, not one, in the case of all these three major allegations, no corroboration. Shifting stories and narratives. DIGENOVA: Well, I don't think there's any doubt that from my perspective, and I know that you don't share this and a lot of people at Fox don't but I actually believe that Dr. Ford fabricated her testimony. I think she's delusional. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I don't think that's even significant to the issue. DIGENOVA: No. But here's the point. CARTER: Right. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Because there's no corroboration. DIGENOVA: What we got through here with somebody, there could be no corroboration because nothing ever happened. And since there has been no corroboration, my first phone call to Lisa Murkowski would be, and this is the old days, OK. I've been here 51 days. HANNITY: All right, Joe, easy. DIGENOVA: Lisa, Lisa, Lisa, can you spell ANWR? Can you spell ANWR and the oil drilling in ANWR, Lisa? Can you spell that? That's, you know what? She owes the president a lot more than this vote and if she votes against this candidate, he should pull the plug on the ANWR drilling. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way, that ANWR drill -- well, he shouldn't because it's good for the country. But the ANWR deal means literally thousands of dollars. CARTER: Yes. DIGENOVA: Yes. HANNITY: By the way-- DIGENOVA: You are antagonizing. HANNITY: You get money from the government for raw materials. All right. We got to give the last word to Pam. Pam? BONDI: All the senators need to do the right thing. This is about our Constitution. Being in the courtroom my entire career watching this unfold in real-time. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Do you know Murkowski? Do you know Susan Collins? BONDI: I don't. I don't. But I hope they do the right thing, and Joe Manchin has a lot to lose because he's going to be in a lot of trouble with Patrick Morrissey as the next U.S. senator from West Virginia if he doesn't vote yes for this. And Patrick probably still will beat him. But the senators need to take notice and they need to those to do the right thing. HANNITY: All right. Predictions. Real quick. Prediction? CARTER: He's passed. BONDI: He will be confirmed. CARTER: Yes. DIGENOVA: He will be confirmed. CARTER: He'll be confirmed. HANNITY: OK. Hopefully optimistic. I'm Irish, don't worry, it's normal. DIGENOVA: You are. HANNITY: Yes. When we come back, Gregg Jarrett, Andy McCarthy, Carrie Severino will be with us. We have more on the reaction. What will these three Republicans do and how it will impact America's future, straight ahead. HANNITY: Andrew McCarthy he has a new column out today and it's titled, quote, "Democrats' complaints about the FBI investigation are absurd." He joins us now, along with the author of the number one New York Times bestseller "The Russian Hoax," Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, the chief counsel for the Judicial Crisis Network, Carrie Severino. You know, to me, Andy, from the beginning it was about, OK. These are the allegations. Now you ask the people and they said in every case that there were people that could corroborate this. In every case that didn't happen. Unless people change their mind, remember under penalty of a felony, they are going to admit they committed a felony and change their story. I don't think so. ANDREW MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. Well, Sean, this has always been about delay from the very beginning, that's all it's been about. It's not surprising that they were not able to corroborate these allegations. I think these allegations in a normal process, he would have never heard of them, because there's a way that the Senate has to vet these kinds of claims where people say they want to remain confidential and they can go into this sort of thing. That's not what this was ever about. They were raising claims at the last minute in order to force delay. They've pushed for an FBI investigation to force delay, every day that the FBI investigation goes on they raise new questions about the depth of it and what it's actually about. And the whole point transparently has always been to push this beyond the midterms-- HANNITY: Yes. MCCARTHY: -- in the hope that they win the Senate and can beat them on the numbers. That's all this has ever been about. HANNITY: Carrie, Mitch McConnell as we speak, breaking here on Fox, is on the Senate floor. If he files cloture that will tee up to four-day process to have a confirmation vote on Saturday. That's if he files cloture. Why would Mitch McConnell at 9.52 p.m. Eastern Time D.C. time be on the Senate floor if he's not filing cloture here? CARRIE SEVERINO, POLICY DIRECTOR, JUDICIAL CRISIS NETWORK: Well, I think that's the definite possibility that he'd very do that. Now we've got the FBI report that's what everyone said we're waiting for, and so at this point, if he does that -- there's still this intervening day, so we have all of tomorrow to kind of think about it and then they get on have the cloture vote and have this time to do debate. So there's still lots of time, they have a schedule tomorrow-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Saturday is the earliest. SEVERINO: Saturday is the earliest, there's lots of opportunity for the senators themselves to look at this report. HANNITY: Do you know anyone who's talked to Murkowski or Collins? SEVERINO: Well, I think I know Leader McConnell is definitely talking to them, and they had said just along the lines that Senator Coons said, let's have -- let's have a constraint, give us a week. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They got it. SEVERINO: Now we had the opportunity and I think if it's going to make them more comfortable, great. But we didn't get anything new out of it. So- - (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Gregg, what about the repercussions, Gregg? It's a due process. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Well, it's sad but there is no due process, there is no fundamental fairness, there is no presumption of innocence among the media and Democrats. I find it amazing now that the very individual Dianne Feinstein who conceals the information initially now is attempting to conceal the FBI report that she demanded. HANNITY: Yes, interesting. JARRETT: This has been careening wildly out of control, and the only way to slam the brakes on this imminent train wreck is to be open and honest and transparent, and yet, that's not what Dianne Feinstein wants. Why? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, they never wanted it. JARRETT: Maybe because she wants to misrepresent the contents of that report, which apparently offer absolutely no corroboration and only reputation of the accusations that have been left. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So here's the big question, Andy, does Kavanaugh get confirmed or do the smears work? MCCARTHY: No, I think he gets confirmed, Sean. I saw you speak to Speaker Gingrich earlier tonight, and I think -- I think he is right on, I think he has right, he'll get confirmed. HANNITY: Carrie? SEVERINO: I agree. Especially people like Manchin and Heitkamp, there's a 30-point difference in those states. I think they are really going to want to have to vote-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They won't do it unless the Republicans have the vote. So that's my prediction. SEVERINO: We'll see. HANNITY: We'll give you the last prediction, Gregg Jarrett? JARRETT: I think he gets confirmed that he may actually get a couple of Democrats on board once they read the contents of his FBI report that apparently, those of us who suffered through the spectacle, don't get to see. HANNITY: By the way, this just breaking. McConnell just filed cloture, as I thought he might. All right. When we come back, Ted Koppel calling out CNN's fake news Humpty Dumpty. HANNITY: All right. Breaking news. Humpty Dumpty is off the hook tonight. But breaking news moments ago, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell just filed for cloture to end debate on the Kavanaugh nomination. This sets up a Friday procedural vote, possible confirmation vote Saturday. All right. We'll have more of course tomorrow night. Thank you so much for being with us. And let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. And Laura Ingraham is standing with this cloture motion filed by McConnell. It means the game is on. Let's see where they stand. 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KOPPEL: CNN's ratings would be in the toilet without Donald Trump. (END VIDEO CLIP) LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Brian is like, oops, who invited him on this panel? I'll just leave it there. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" fantastic team are here to take it away. All the new developments from Capitol Hill and beyond. Shannon. SHANNON BREAM, FOX NEWS HOST: I mean, it's been 30 seconds so there are actually some new ones, Laura. You know how this works. INGRAHAM: Of course, take it away. BREAM: Thank you so much. We begin with a Fox News alert. The countdown is on and a confirmation vote is set to confirm Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. We're still awaiting the release of the FBI report into the allegations against the judge although the Senate majority leader says a short time ago the Senate will receive it tonight. Hello and welcome to FOX NEWS @ NIGHT, I'm Shannon Bream in Washington. Judge Brett Kavanaugh's fate still hangs in the balance tonight. We're going to talk to Senator Lindsey Graham. Does the GOP have the votes to get him to the Supreme Court? And Sean Hannity is here as his sources say the FBI report is done. And across the country, Republicans are trending up in pivotal Senate races. Brand-new Fox poll to show you tonight. We've got Fox team coverage as the Kavanaugh drama is nearing a vote. Leland Vittert is pouring through what's known about the FBI reporting. He's got some inside scoop. But first, Chad Pergram from Capitol Hill where the action is tonight. All right. Chad, the majority leader Mitch McConnell took that first step, he went to the floor to move forward this confirmation vote, so what kind of timeline look like? CHAD PERGRAM, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell initiated a four-day process. He's repeatedly said he wants to have the confirmation vote this week. So we had to initiate this process tonight before midnight and what he did the tremor here on Capitol Hill is filing cloture. That's an effort to limit debate. So he filed that tonight by Senate rule, that needs a day to lay over, so tomorrow day two it lays dormant and that it ripens like a fruit on Friday. That means it's available for a vote. That's the procedural vote to cut off debate. In needs 51 years. In the old days, last year, 2017 when they were dealing with Neil Gorsuch for the Supreme Court, Mitch McConnell lowered the bar to end filibusters. It used to be 60, it's now down to 51. And so if you have invoked cloture on day three, Friday, voted to cut off debate, then a 30-hour clock begins to run. That's all the time that the minority -- that opponents of the nomination can consume until it culminates in a confirmation vote probably on Saturday, 30 hours thereafter. Now, Shannon, the Senate rule says you vote on cloture one after -- one hour after you come in, so it's possible they could have come in Friday morning at 12:01 and have that procedural vote at 1:01 on Friday morning. BREAM: Well, you and I may be here doing this if that happens overnight. OK. So, where do we know about where they stand with votes on either side now? PERGRAM: Yes, it's absolutely about the math, the math, the math. You've heard me say that many times before. Look at the trio. Mitch McConnell needs to keep the trio of Jeff Flake, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins together. If he keeps them together, he gets to 51. If he loses one of those three, he's right at 50 and Mike Pence, the vice president would break the tie. Well, what about Democrats? It's generally not thought that any Democrat would vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh unless Republicans can deliver the goods. In other words, they carry the freight and get them across 51. I talked earlier with Joe Manchin, a Democratic senator from West Virginia, he is in play. Listen to what he had to say about his vote. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JOE MANCHIN (D), WEST VIRGINIA: I'm looking at the gentleman as an adult, 22 -- 53 -- 31 years of professional service. I'm looking as a father, as a person in a community, how he interacts with his community. I'm looking a little bit of everything. I'm trying to put the human side to it. (END VIDEO CLIP) PERGRAM: So Joe Manchin is in play. I would also look at Heidi Heitkamp, the Democrat from North Dakota. Those are the two main operatives in the Democrats that might be in play to vote for Brett Kavanaugh. Shannon. BREAM: OK. So, how tense are things on Capitol Hill with all of this going on? We've heard quite a bit about what you're experiencing there and the members as well. PERGRAM: I'd say it's been absolutely supercharged. You had protesters in the hallway. We're expecting a lot of more protesters tomorrow. You had U.S. capitol police escorting senators to and from the Capitol when they had to come in vote. We had a story break tonight where an unpaid Democratic intern for Sheila Jackson Lee has been arrested by the U.S. capitol police for doxing three of the Republican senators on the judiciary committee. He was caught in a Capitol Hill office last night and then arrested at home by the U.S. capitol police today. You had Mitch McConnell saying that we're not going to be intimidated by these protesters harassing Republican senators in the hall and then you had Chuck Schumer, the minority leader basically going right up to the edge where he almost called Mitch McConnell a liar. He said, I'm not going to use the L word, he's using falsehoods, he said. You don't hear that sort of language here on Capitol Hill between the two leaders very often. The reason this nomination is dancing on the tip of a pen, it could go either way when you're dealing with 49, 50, 51 votes. That's why it's so tense, Shannon. BREAM: All right. We understand. Chad Pergram, thank you very much. And we'll -- yes, pencil us in for Friday night, Saturday morning. We'll see how this goes. All right. Democrats now saying the FBI has not done a truly thorough vetting in its updated investigation into Judge Kavanaugh's background. Correspondent Leland Vittert is checking those claims for us tonight as we wait to get official word about where this report is. LELAND VITTERT, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, where this report is and remember, nobody has seen it, so people are criticizing. They really don't know what's in it. 8:00 a.m. tomorrow morning senators starting with the chairman and ranking member and then a limited group of aids start to see this report from the FBI, which the Senate majority leader just previewed on the floor. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R), KENTUCKY: The seventh time the FBI has looked into Judge Kavanaugh's background and this information comes on top of what was already been one of the most thorough and most exhaustive Senate reviews of any Supreme Court nominee in the entire history of our country. (END VIDEO CLIP) VITTERT: As for what could be in that report and could not be, we know the FBI has talked to Leland Kaiser, that's Christine Blasey Ford's friend who was allegedly at the party. Her lawyer sent a letter late last week saying in part the simple and unchangeable truth is that she, meaning Leland Kaiser is unable to corroborate it, meaning the story from Dr. Ford, because she has no recollection of the incident in question. FBI has also talked to Mark Judge, Kavanaugh's high school friend and identified by Ford as being present during the alleged assault. Judge has publicly denied this. Deborah Ramirez, a woman who alleged Kavanagh engaged in a lewd act during his days at Yale, also spoke with the FBI. As far as we know, neither Dr. Ford or Judge Kavanaugh, have sat down for FBI interviews, although their stories are, of course, well known publicly for the Senate judiciary committee hearing. Democratic senators are crying foul over that. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: The fact that they were limited on who they could talk to, the fact that they don't have the authority to even go back to Judge Kavanaugh if they have further questions in light of these additional interviews. The fact that they can't even go back to Dr. Ford if they want to. (END VIDEO CLIP) VITTERT: So the spin has begun even before the report is out. Republicans are pushing for a way to have at least some of it come out publicly. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. BOB CORKER (R), TENNESSEE: I'm certainly going to ask about it again today at lunch. I think it would help you, more importantly, again, I think it would help the American people know that there was a real background check that took place and what came out of it. (END VIDEO CLIP) VITTERT: All right. So tonight, we wait by custom background reports are supposed to be kept confidential by senators and their staff. Shannon, although given the current political climate, one can wonder how much people are hearing really to any custom on Capitol Hill right now. BREAM: more information that's confidential or leaks or any of those things that happened in D.C. All right. Leland, thank you very much. VITTERT: Yes. BREAM: All right. An agreement, a one-week delay and a new FBI investigation -- already in question tonight by top ranking Democrats. All this as Republicans remain focused on getting Judge Kavanaugh's nomination to a vote and doing it soon. Republican senator from South Carolina Lindsey Graham sits on the Senate Judiciary Committee, joins us now to weigh in. Good to see you, Senator. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Hello. Hi. BREAM: You're busy. GRAHAM: Yes. It's been kind of -- it's good to help a nice man like Judge Kavanaugh get on the Supreme Court. BREAM: Well, you know the Democrats don't think he is so nice. I want to read a little bit of back-and-forth. This started on Twitter, as so many fights in Washington do. This is from the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday, tweeted nowhere in any of these six FBI reports, referring to the previous background checks which the committee has reviewed on a bipartisan basis, was there ever a whiff of any issue, at all, related in any way to inappropriate sexual behavior or alcohol abuse. Senator Dick Durbin says the tweet is not accurate. Committee Republicans must correct it. He sent a letter. We notice that only Senators Coons and Klobuchar, Democrats in the committee didn't sign it. Then the Senate Judiciary Committee tweets back, nothing in the tweet is inaccurate or misleading. The committee stands by its statement which is completely truthful, more baseless innuendo and more false mirrors from Senate Democrats. What are they referring to, the Democrats? GRAHAM: I have no idea what Durbin is referring to. But I can tell you the facts. Kavanaugh was nominated in 2006, he's been on the court for 12 years. They have been six background checks because he had worked for President Bush as his secretary, personal secretary, not doing dictation but managing the oval office, everything around the president. He had a background check from Hill to get that job. I dare anybody -- I dare Durbin to go through it. Me to go through it, see how well we would do. So, no, Durbin's wrong. Durbin is just making up another story that's not true. There's nothing in his background checks that suggest anything consistent with the allegations against him and if they had been, they would have said something about it. So Democrats have been despicable in the way they've treated him. And it's true there was something there. They're just incompetent. There's nothing there. BREAM: All right. So let's talk through a couple of things. Dr. Ford's legal teams today -- because Senator Grassley, the chairman has asked numerous times for recordings of the polygraphs, communications with the media regarding these allegations and her therapist notes, because he said, listen, you gave some of them to the Washington Post, at least according to the Washington Post we want those. Her team says Dr. Ford is now prepared to provide those documents to the FBI when she's interviewed. We have not yet heard from the FBI about scheduling and interview with her. So won't give them the committee but we'll give them to the FBI. GRAHAM: It's just a game. They keep playing a game at Dr. Ford's expense. If this would help Dr. Ford, why wouldn't they give them to us? The bottom line here is Dr. Ford has been used by the Democratic Party here. The person who betrayed her trust and leaked her name to the media had a political agenda. It was not a friend. And the political activist lawyers that were given to her by Democratic senator staff members, I think have a lot to account for. Brett Kavanaugh is the man I've known for 20 years. He's the man you see in the record and everything that's happened to him during this confirmation process is despicable and it's all falling apart and it's always another reason. If you don't believe he's a gang rapist, if you don't believe he's a sexual predator, if you don't believe he's a stumbling, bubbling drunk, how about this, he just didn't have the temperament to be a judge. This is the one that offends me the most. How would you react if somebody destroyed your life and you found yourself in front of the entire nation being humiliated? What would you do? BREAM: Well, the top Democrat on the committee, Senator Dianne Feinstein says this about him not being interviewed by the FBI for this newest background check, she says, "When he wasn't yelling and demeaning senators, he was making misleading statements that cast doubt on his overall trustworthiness. I don't think that would happen with FBI agents seated across the table." All right. Next up. You got -- GRAHAM: OK. Number one, what a joke. I like Dianne Feinstein. I don't think she leaked Dr. Ford's name to the media but somebody around her may have. If you saw this man as yelling, I saw a man who was offended to his core, defended his good name, took it to the people who were trying to destroy his family, what would you do if you were in that situation? So this idea that somehow his temperament is in question, you're rewarding the worst behavior I've seen in 20 years if you buy that garbage. To any Republican, his temperament before this hearing was A plus, plus, according to ABA. Do not let these people do what they've done to Judge Kavanaugh and reward them by saying he's no longer fit because he's in the world's worst position of defending himself against a bunch of garbage from people who don't care about fairness. This has never been about the truth. It's been about delaying the hearing to get past the midterms to fill the seat in 2020. If you don't believe me, listen to Senator -- BREAM: All right. We got to go. But do you have the votes? Does he have the votes within the next four or five days to become a justice? GRAHAM: Yes. I've never felt more confident, because I've been told, a summary of a summary, the FBI background check is going to hold up. It's going to reinforce everything. The committee did. We'll get briefs about it tomorrow. If that's the case, if the FBI interviews validate what the committee found, I hope these three Republicans who asked for the delay will say, no, I'm satisfied and we'll get this good man on the court. I've never felt better about it. I hope Joe Manchin in West Virginia, who's a friend of mine will listen to the people of West Virginia, Joe. Because they're telling you what to do. And Joe Manchin is a friend but Brett Kavanaugh I've known for 20 years. I'm telling you right now, what they've done to this guy, Joe, is a bunch of garbage and you should be offended and it will destroy the judiciary. Don't be part of this crowd, Joe. Go with West Virginia. BREAM: He has said that he will be fair-minded in listening to both sides. That I will see. GRAHAM: I'll believe it until I'm proven otherwise, I will believe it. BREAM: All right. Senator Graham, thanks for coming in. GRAHAM: Thank you. BREAM: Good to see you. All right. An agreement, a one-week delay and a new FBI investigation, but tonight it appears there's very little bipartisanship as we inch closer to a vote on the president's second Supreme Court nominee. Tonight's power panel here to discuss, Fox News contributor, Leslie Marshall. Former DOJ counsel Jamil Jaffer. And Townhall senior columnist, Kurt Schlichter. Welcome to all of you. KURT SCHLICHTER, SENIOR COLUMNIST, TOWNHALL: Thanks for having us. LESLIE MARSHALL, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Hi, Shannon. BREAM: OK. So, listen, we know there's FBI report. Mitch McConnell said tonight it is coming into the Senate tonight. We know that there are couple of top Senate leaders who were supposed to see it first thing in the morning, about 8:00 a.m. Eastern it goes to the White House first. But just a reminder that there's still a lot of back-and-forth going on between Senator Grassley, the chair of the committee and Ford's legal team. Just to remind people what Grassley has asked the team for, he wants therapist's notes because some of them were shared with the Washington Post, polygraph recordings of Dr. Ford taking the test and communications that Ford or her team had with media outlets. Today, this is what her attorneys say. "Dr. Ford is prepared to provide those documents to the FBI when she's interviewed. We have not yet heard from the FBI about scheduling an interview with her. JAMIL JAFFER, FORMER DOJ COUNSEL: I mean, look, the Senate is doing its investigation. The Democrats called into their investigation. I'm not sure why Dr. Ford's attorneys won't give the Senate, whose job it is to do the investigation, the records are asking for. She wants to give to the FBI, that's fine. She should give it to the Senate too. BREAM: All right. This is what Grassley said now in response to that back and forth. He says, the constitution asked the Senate, not the media or the FBI with providing advice and consent for the Supreme Court nominees. It's disappointing that Dr. Ford's attorneys were willing to share evidence with The Washington Post many weeks ago but to this day refused to share the same evidence which Dr. Ford relied on in her testimony with the Senate. Leslie, does it help her hurt her case that she won't share these best of evidence? MARSHALL: Well, I think her attorney has the reasons and quite frankly I think they wanted out there that the FBI has not talked to them. The FBI allegedly has not talked to Judge Kavanaugh either and that's problematic to me because I wanted to be a thorough investigation. I think a week is enough time but I think you have to interview all over the party. It bothers me, quite frankly that it was leaked to The Washington Post. To be at least, somewhat agree with you that they could easily give this to both the Senators and the FBI but I think it's in a sense a statement if you will saying we'll be glad to provide this but we want to give it to the FBI in this investigation. By the way, they haven't called us, we haven't spoken to them and they want to put that out there and I think she's doing it in the best interest of our client. BREAM: Well, Kurt, you know, we haven't seen the report yet and we may never see it but the people are going to get to see the Senators, even those who are criticizing, haven't seen it yet. But their main objection is the fact that Dr. Ford, Judge Kavanaugh, neither of them apparently as far as we know interviewed by the FBI but they both have given hours of sworn testimony. What with the FBI benefit in talking to those two? Do you think that this makes it illegitimate that they weren't reviewed? SCHLICHTER: No. This is just another delaying tactic, Shannon. The Democrats want to do everything they can to keep this vote from coming to the floor. And any excuse, any ridiculous rationale for delaying it is something that we're going to see thrown up there. And that's what's happening now. She doesn't need to be interviewed again. She spent how many hours on the -- being interviewed in front of the entire committee on national T.V.? We've all seen what she has to say. We've all seen what Brett Kavanaugh has to say. Let's see what the -- let's if the FBI came up with anything new and then let's vote and let's confirm this guy. BREAM: Well, and Jamil, it looks like they are moving that way. Mitch McConnell setting things in motion tonight, possible vote Saturday or Sunday. JAFFER: Yes. Exactly, right. I mean, Mitch McConnell's fall culture, that means the Senate has to limit debate shortly when they vote to invoke culture which they will now be able to do because the filibuster is gone post to Neil Gorsuch vote, which I'm sure the Democrats now are regretting. That means that -- after that there will be 30 hours of debate and the Senate goes to vote and that's it. Up or down, whatever happens, that's was happening. BREAM: OK. So, Leslie, if the report comes in tonight or tomorrow and Senators have time to review it, if it's been thorough and covers the same ground, would you be OK with the vote moving forward or what would your objection be because this is the deal they made a week ago? MARSHALL: Well, a couple of things. First of all, if you're going to delay it, I mean, midterms are in November, so that's absolutely ridiculous to say that my party wants to just delay, delay, delay. I think they want all the information. Secondly, FBI is going to ask different questions in the Senate so I disagree, I think both should be questioned by the FBI. And then lastly, what bothers me is what I'm hearing is that there's going to be one report. And that this report will go back and forth between Republicans and Democrats and, you know, Senator to Senator and I am concerned that in 30 hours now all of them can view it and I want all of them to see it before they make their vote. But my bet is there will be one or two Republicans that say no and one or two Democrats that say yes to his confirmation. BREAM: All right. Kurt, final word to you. SCHLICHTER: Oh, you know, we don't need to go on. Shannon, we don't need to get to the bottom of the ice throwing allegations. It's all done, it's over. We know what we need to -- we know what we need to vote on this guy, Senators, go do your job, confirm this man. BREAM: All right. And Kurt, what's the name of your new book? SCHLICHTER: Hey, My new book as Militant Normals, it's available on Amazon, go out and get it. It's a lot of fun. BREAM: All right. Leslie and Jamil, you tell us about your books when you have them too. Thanks to all of you for coming in tonight. MARSHALL: Absolutely. SCHLICHTER: Thanks for having us. MARSHALL: Thank you, Shannon. BREAM: All right. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell setting the process in motion now to confirm Judge Kavanaugh. He started that tonight and the FBI is reportedly heading to the White House to report there. First of all, we've got Sean Hannity coming up with what he knows, what his sources are staying tonight. Plus, the numbers are in. Brand-new Fox News polls in those battlegrounds Senate races. Some surprises. That's next. BREAM: This is a Fox News alert. As the Kavanaugh debate rolls on the effect on the midterm election seems to be showing up in our brand-new Fox News bowls which could spell trouble for Democrats in key battleground states at least when it comes to the Senate. Correspondent Trace Gallagher is looking into the numbers for us tonight. Good evening, Trace. TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Good evening, Shannon. Let's start with the big picture. This new round of Fox News polls shows that there is a common denominator in the five battleground states for the Senate, which is an increase in GOP interest. Take a look. Compared to early September, the number of Republicans feeling extremely interested in the upcoming midterms is up two points in Arizona, up nine in Indiana. Eight in both Missouri and North Dakota and up 11 in Tennessee. Experts say it appears to be driven by the battle over Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation and voting against his nomination hurts more than it helps. For example, last month and the Missouri Senate race Democratic incumbent Senator Claire McCaskill was leading by three points against her GOP rival Josh Hawley. Now the race is tied. And remember, even before Kavanaugh and Dr. Christine Blasey Ford testified McCaskill had already said she would vote against Kavanaugh. And among the 28 percent of voters who say they could still switch candidates, almost twice as many say voting against Kavanaugh would make them less likely to support McCaskill. In North Dakota, Democratic Senator Heidi Heitkamp is still undecided on Kavanaugh but she is quickly losing support of women. And now she's running 12 points behind her Republican challenger Kevin Kramer. And if Heitkemp votes against Kavanaugh, twice as many say they would be less likely to vote for her. In Tennessee where GOP Senator Bob Corker is retiring, Republican Marsha Blackburn has a five-point lead over Democrat and former Tennessee Governor Phil Bredesen. Blackburn's lead is still within the margin of error but it is up from last month. Although we should note Bredesen's voters appear to be a bit more loyal, 92 percent of Democrats back him versus 82 percent of Republicans backing Blackburn. Bottom line here, it will be fascinating to see where the chips fall once the Kavanaugh vote is complete. Shannon? BREAM: All right, Trace. Thank you very much. We'll come back to you in just a little bit. In the meantime, let's begin -- dig in deeper to the polls for some analysis. We'll bring in our bipartisan pollsters to weigh in. The president of Anderson Robbins Research, Chris Anderson and the CEO of WPA Intelligence, Chris Wilson. Welcome to you both. CHRIS WILSON, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, WPA INTELLIGENCE: Thanks, Shannon. CHRIS ANDERSON, PRESIDENT, ANDERSON ROBBINS RESEARCH: Thank you. BREAM: OK. I'm tempted to call you just buy your last names, but I won't, I will give you first and last because you're both Chris. Chris Anderson, let's start with North Dakota. Heidi Heitkamp in that case, the race that Trace was just talking about there, a tighter race earlier and now a spread of 12 points in favor of the Republican, what you make of it, Chris Anderson? ANDERSON: Well, this is a very red state, one that Trump won overwhelmingly and what seems to be happening in North Dakota and in the other four states is that Republicans are coming home. They were less than enthusiastic a month ago. What happened in the interim seems to have energized them some. And they are coming home to their natural base which is -- which is voting for the Republican. North Dakota does appear that out of these five races that we looked at to be the one that might be getting out of reach for Democrats -- for the Democrat there at this point. BREAM: OK. So, Chris Wilson, let's talk about a couple of these others. In Tennessee, that race there has been pretty consistently -- pretty tightly matched but now Phil Bredesen lagging five points behind Marsha Blackburn. She's long been the President Trump supporter, made no hesitation about that. He has been very well respected and very well loved as a more moderate Democrat there in Tennessee. How do you see this race shaping up? ANDERSON: Well, the problem is he may be a moderate but he is now attached to the national Democratic Party which has become anything but moderate. And so he can try as hard as he wants to to run away from Chuck Schumer but Chuck Schumer is the one getting the press and Democrats on the Judiciary Committee are the ones getting the press and Phil Bredesen is the -- is the recipient of that sort of voter animosity amongst swing voters and independents. And now Republicans are more energized in Tennessee but, you know, to me I want to talk about North Dakota, you know, you got a -- it's interesting and the incumbents (INAUDIBLE) you have Heidi Heitkamp at 42 percent. You have Claire McCaskill at 43 percent, you have Joe Donnelly at 43 percent and the one thing that we as pollsters look for is where is an incumbent to that 50 percent threshold. And when you have an incumbent seven points under 50 percent the chances of them being able to regain those seven points back and get re-elected are pretty far -- pretty far-fetched. It's not likely that any of the three of those are able to return to Washington no matter how they vote on this. BREAM: OK. I want to quickly have both of you touch on the Indiana race too because we had Joe Donnelly there, who is the incumbent. He came out as a no against Judge Kavanaugh on Friday. Then they worked out this deal to have one week delay for the FBI investigation and he seemed to say, OK, well, now I'm going to wait for the FBI and see what happens. Not exactly retracting as no, but Chris Anderson, not being a confirmed, yes or no it sounds like at this point. ANDERSON: So, Indiana is the one race where we saw it move towards the Democrat since September. So it's still very close but it clearly has not hurt him, or at least according to this round of polling it has not. The other states we saw movement towards Republicans. Indiana came towards the Democrat. BREAM: Yes. Chris Wilson I want to ask about the House because that seems to be a totally different story than what we're seeing for the Republicans. Good news for them in the Senate, bad news in the House races, why is that? WILSON: You know, it's the tale of two territories. Right now Democrats are having a fight on Republican turf. And as Chris Anderson, you know, you look at North Dakota, it's a state Republicans won, that Donald Trump won overwhelmingly. He won Indiana, he won West Virginia, he won Montana. He won -- when you kind of go through state-by-state where Republicans are defending -- or fighting for Senate seats they're likely to pick up in those Republican states. Conversely, where you have two different types of House seats that are up. You have the suburban House seats and really where the math doesn't work out really well for Republicans, those races and those seats have been trending Democrat for a while. What I do see though is the world sort of a little bit extra urban type of House seats. Those are ones the Republicans are starting to gain ground back in. So, I'm not going to -- it's too close to say whether Republicans are picking things up but it is moving -- it is definitely an uphill map. BREAM: OK. All right. Chris Anderson and Chris Wilson, thank you both very much. WILSON: You bet. Thank you. ANDERSON: Thank you. BREAM: All right. The President and his legal team fighting back tonight after the New York Times suggested he and his father committed tax fraud. A high-powered attorney who has taken on journalists and one is warning the gray lady and so was the White House. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KELLYANNE CONWAY, COUNSELOR TO THE PRESIDENT: They're just trying to goad the President into suing them so they can get his tax returns. And haven't they learned yet that President Trump always gets the last laugh and the upper hand in all of this? (END VIDEO CLIP) BREAM: Well, and later, Donald diplomacy, two vastly different approaches against two different adversaries, so which one, or will they both, payoff? BREAM: The New York Times running a piece alleging tax fraud by the president and his family decades ago. The president's legal team is fighting back tonight. Trace Gallagher is back with us and he's on the case. Hey, Trace. GALLAGHER: Hey, Shannon. The New York Times story does not include the president's personal tax returns. Instead, it relies on tax returns from corporate partnerships and trusts that reportedly detail income that Donald Trump received from various family enterprises. The Times is alleging these confidential tax records show that, "President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s including instances of outright fraud that greatly increase the fortune he received from his parents." Charles Harter, a lawyer for President Trump calls the allegations false, defamatory and based on extremely inaccurate claims. In a statement to the Times, Harter says in part, "All estate matters were handled by licensed attorneys, licensed CPAs and licensed real estate appraisers who followed all laws and rules strictly. All matters were filed with the IRS and New York taxing authorities. The returns and tax positions at the Times now attacks were examined in real-time by relevant taxing authorities." Mr. Harter goes on to say that Mr. Trump "had no involvement in the matters and the Trump family members who did handle the affairs were not experts so they relied on licensed professionals to ensure full compliance with the law." Now, Charles Harter is based in Beverly Hills and has proven very effective at taking on the media and that includes fighting for the first family. Last year, Harter defended Melania Trump in her lawsuit against the Daily Mail when the paper claimed the modeling agency Melania Trump worked for in the 90s was also an escort service. The publication settled the suit for $2.9 million. Harter also represented wrestler, Hulk Hogan, in his invasion of privacy lawsuit against Gawker. Hogan was awarded $140 million, that verdict led to Gawker's bankruptcy. Shannon. BREAM: Trace Gallagher, thank you for a double duty tonight, good to see you. All right, the Trump administration applying maximum pressure to Iran while taking a different approach to relations with North Korea. Correspondent Gillian Turner is here with that story. Maybe, you know, two different approaches? GILLIAN TURNER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Two different approaches, widely divergent tracks today, Shannon, for President Trump's maximum pressure campaigns against two U.S. adversaries -- Iran and North Korea. The national security team upping the ante in its ongoing battle with Tehran but remaining optimistic when it comes to Pyongyang. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) TURNER: Fresh on the heels of announcing U.S. withdrawal from a decade old pack with Iran called the Treaty of Amity, the Trump administration is taking on Tehran with no holds barred. JOHN BOLTON, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR: Iran is a "rogue regime." It has been a threat throughout the Middle East. It's hostile and aggressive military behavior in the region today is a breach of international peace and security. So, I don't take what they say seriously at all. TURNER: Earlier in the day, the secretary of state said, the U.S. should have pulled out decades ago and also went on record officially blaming the regime for recent attacks against American compounds in Iraq. MIKE POMPEO, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: Our intelligent in this regard is solid. We can see the hand of the Ayatollah and his henchmen supporting these attacks on the United States. TURNER: Rouhani said last week in order for him to speak with President Trump, the U.S. would have to first rejoin the nuclear deal. But when it comes to confronting Kim Jong-un, the secretary insists despite a lack of follow-up from Pyongyang after the Trump-Kim summit, the future looks promising. POMPEO: This has been outstanding, outstanding for decades. We've made more progress than has been made in an awfully long time. And importantly, we've done so in a condition which continues to give us the opportunity to achieve the final goal. TURNER: The White House is preparing for Pompeo's fourth trip to North Korea where he's slated to meet face-to- face with Kim on Sunday. And sources tell Fox News, Pompeo is keeping his eyes firmly on the price -- denuclearization. (END VIDEOTAPE) TURNER: Behind the scene, experts say Kim Jong-un has been eager for more summits with President Trump which they say may account for the administration's more positive tone. Iran, though, is avoiding any communication with the Trump team as it believes doing so would kill what remains of their nuclear deal with Europe. So, in the absence of diplomatic communication, Shannon, the Trump team is continuing to ratchet up the economic pressure. BREAM: Yes, and they're -- Iran and North Korea -- I mean, it's clearly having an effect more so in Iran. TURNER: Exactly. BREAM: Thank you. All right. This is a Fox News Alert. We just got a new statement from the legal team for Judge Kavanaugh accuser, Professor Christine Blasey Ford. They're responding to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell setting a Friday test vote -- that's that first vote that puts the rest of this in motion, preparing to move ahead with Kavanaugh's nomination even before the Judiciary Committee has looked through the FBI reports. They're reportedly getting it first thing in the morning. All right. Here's what Ford's team says: "An FBI supplemental background investigation that did not include an interview of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford nor the witnesses who corroborate her testimony cannot be called an investigation. We are profoundly disappointed that after the tremendous sacrifice she made in coming forward, those directing the FBI investigation were not interested in seeking the truth." Well, wait to see if we get a response from the FBI or others on the hill. We'll bring that to you when it happens. Well, tonight, police are announcing the arrest of a man of accused of publishing the private information of some GOP senators. It turns out, he has ties to this Democratic lawmaker. We got details next. Plus, Sean Hannity makes his FOX NEWS @ NIGHT debut weighing in on reactions to the president's comments about Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford. Stick around. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (END VIDEO CLIP) BREAM: Tensed moments on the University of Texas and Austin campus. It all started when students gathered in support of Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh. Now, other students opposing Kavanaugh surrounded them, took their signs, ripped them up and reportedly snatched a Make America Great Again hat off a student's head. U.S. capitol police have arrested a man who's worked for several Democrats on Capitol Hill. He's accused of posting personal information for three Republican senators on the Internet -- including things like home addresses and cell phone numbers. The practice called doxing -- stands for dropping documents. Capital police arresting 27- year-old Jackson Costco, who most recently worked as a staffer for Texas Democratic Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee. He allegedly targeted three GOP members of the Senate Judiciary Committee during or shortly after Thursday's hearing with Judge Kavanaugh and accuser Dr. Christine Blasey Ford. All right. Is the Kavanaugh confirmation battle taking us to a new political low? On the other side of the aisle, key GOP senators say the president's remarks about Blasey Ford last night are appalling, unacceptable and just plain wrong. The administration now, fighting back. Now, as soon as that FBI report, the seventh on Kavanaugh, is completed, the White House does get the first look. Will the president continue to stand by his nominee? Now, the one and only, Sean Hannity in his FOX NEWS @ NIGHT debut. Great to have you! SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Thank you for having me. Congrats on the show. You're doing great. It's an honor being with you. I haven't been on the show. You've done amazing work on Supreme Court issues over the years and you know this issue very well. But I don't think it's ever been that bad or this bad as it is now. And you know what the sad part is, to me, it's getting -- when politicians are saying get saying get in their face, and they're following Sarah Sanders and kicking her family out of a restaurant or Pam Bondi or Secretary Nielsen, then it's Ted Cruz, then it's Mitch McConnell, now the example that you just brought up, and I'm thinking somebody is going to get hurt here. This is now -- we're at a tipping point but the big challenge now is this, whether America is going to remain a country that believes in due process, the presumption of innocence, our constitution, the rule of law, or whether or not guilt by accusation rules the day. And we're going to find out probably by Friday, Saturday at the latest, whether or not Republicans are going to stand up against what are allegations that have no corroboration, that have inconsistencies. It's a very crucial moment for the country in my view. BREAM: Well, and you know, there are a number of Republicans who were on the fence. They're the ones who are really watching -- Flake, Collins and Murkowski, a couple of key Democrats as well. But they say, they have some negative reaction to the president last night and his rally. Here is what Senator Lindsey Graham, who's a big supporter of the president, here's what he said about those comments from last night. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GRAHAM: So, President Trump went through a factual rendition that I didn't particularly like and I would tell him to knock it off, you're not helping but it could be worse. You can actually kill somebody's cat and puncture their tires to get them to shut up. So, you know -- (END VIDEO CLIP) BREAM: His reference there in the second part, obviously back to the Clinton years. HANNITY: There is a double standard; Keith Ellison more recently. I mean, in the case of the woman that is accusing him, I've not heard any of these members of the Senate Judiciary Committee or any of the Democrats call for an FBI investigation into Keith Ellison. And apparently, the woman making the allegations, his text messages, tape recordings, doctor's reports and they say nothing, or in the case of bill Clinton, if we really want to go back to people earlier in their lives, we can go back to when Bill Clinton was the attorney general -- the rape accusation of Juanita Broaddrick. Look, this -- the double standards stinks to high heaven. You mentioned three Republicans. They asked for the FBI report. My sources tonight are telling me that it pretty much just reiterates what the Senate Judiciary Committee, their conclusions, what the investigation is. Remember, the FBI will not reach conclusions. They'll not make recommendations. If that's the case, how did these three Republicans justified now moving the bar? Well, maybe it doesn't have the proper temperament. BREAM: You know, they're worried about the fact that the judge and the professor, it appears have not been interviewed. Last checked by the FBI and they say it's not complete without those two -- although they've both given hours of sworn testimony. HANNITY: They've given hours of sworn testimony. Unless they have something new to offer, we already know where they stand, we know what their stories are. In the case of Professor Ford, she said there was an eyewitness to the alleged assault, the eyewitness apparently again has gone on record saying it never happened. Her best friend says she has no recollection of ever being at any party where something like this happened or was ever told about it or ever met or knew Judge Kavanaugh. And if you break it down, with each case, this is pivotal. We're not a country -- we've gotten things wrong in the media. A lot of our colleagues -- you know, I was right about Richard (INAUDIBLE), a local host at Atlanta at the time, and he thanked me for not rushing to judgment. With the Duke Lacrosse, UVA, Ferguson, Missouri, Cambridge Police, Baltimore, Maryland, Trayvon Martin -- everybody rushes to judgment. They think they know how these things are going to work out. There's been a full -- now seven investigations into Kavanaugh. He has made a passionate defense of his position. And without any corroboration, this man belongs in the court. And the risk is if the Republicans now move the bar, change what the standard is, now it becomes about temperament, not about the FBI report. What they have done is they've now opened the door that every single person ever brought in to any important office is going to be subject to the same lies, smears, besmirchment, the character assassination, and frankly, the bludgeoning of their family. BREAM: Yes, and that's going to happen on both sides of the aisle. People have to remember -- HANNITY: It will go both ways. BREAM: Yes, and as a woman and as an attorney, I do think it's very important that people come forward with these accusations but then that we do have due process. HANNITY: Listen, as a father of a daughter, somebody who has three sisters, let me tell you something, I was glad the Republicans took this seriously. They did the right thing, but the evidence didn't corroborate it. At that point, we are a country that believes in due process and presumption of innocence. And if it doesn't end up that way, we will have gone backwards in ways that I think will be unpredictable at this hour. BREAM: For everyone involved in public service. Sean, thank you. Good to see you. HANNITY: Shannon, congratulations on everything, thanks for having me. BREAM: Thanks so much. All right. Senator Mitch McConnell is the story tonight. Kristin Fisher looks at this pivotal moment in history for the senate majority leader, that's next. BREAM: The emotion over the nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court reaching a fever pitch today. But as Kristin Fisher reports, one powerful senator has remained determined through it all. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is the master of getting conservative judges confirmed. He has a perfect record, 26 for 26 in confirming President Trump's federal appeals court nominees. Last year, he easily guided Judge Neil Gorsuch to a seat on the Supreme Court. And the year before, he kept a more liberal judge off it. MCCONNELL: The American people may well elect a president who decides to nominate Judge Garland for Senate consideration. The next president may also nominate somebody very different. Either way, our view is this: Give the people a voice in filling this vacancy. FISHER: The people spoke by putting President Trump in the White House. Now, McConnell is the one accusing Democrats of delays. SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY), SENATE MINORITY LEADER: Accusing Democrats of needlessly delaying a Supreme Court nomination is galling, is hypocritical, coming from a leader who delayed the nomination of a Supreme Court justice for over 300 days -- he's the master of delay. FISHER: But McConnell is firing back by accusing Democrats of unleashing a feeding frenzy on Judge Kavanaugh and his family. MCCONNELL: A literal mudslide, mudslide of wild, uncorroborated accusations has literally poured out, each more outlandish than the last. (PROTESTERS CHANTING) FISHER: He's also taking aim at the protesters who've been hounding his members across Capitol Hill. MCCONNELL: Harassing them at the airports or going to their homes. We'll not be intimidated by these people. FISHER: As his deadline to get Judge Kavanaugh confirmed nears, McConnell is now on the cusp of what could be his greatest victory in his 33 years in the Senate. SEN. JOHN KENNEDY (R), LOUISIANA: I think Mitch is doing a good job. I think Senator Grassley has done a good job. I think they've done the best they can under difficult circumstances. FISHER: And it's about to get even more circus-like here on Capitol Hill. Majority Leader McConnell has just filed cloture, which sets up a confirmation vote potentially as early as Saturday. Shannon. (END VIDEOTAPE) BREAM: Kristin Fisher, thank you. Most-watched, most trusted, most grateful you spent the evening with us, good night from Washington. Load-Date: October 4, 2018 End of Document The Senate Will Get One Copy of the Finished FBI Report and Democrats Are Up to Their Smear Campaign of Brett Kavanaugh Which Has the GOP Base United; Professor Ford's Testimony is Falling Apart; Attorney Specializing in Defamation Examines Accusations against Judge Brett Kavanaugh; President Trump Makes Controversial Statements about Brett Kavanaugh Accuser, Christine Blasey Ford; Body Language Expert Analyses Christine Blasey Ford's Testimony; Democratic Staffer Releases Personal Information of Republican Senators Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 3, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7855 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Dave Bossie, Jonathan Turley, Raymond Arroyo, Jason Chaffetz Guests: Chris Hahn, Victor Davis Hansen, Tom Clare, Lillian Glass Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. We'll have more of course tomorrow night. Thank you for being with us. And let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Laura Ingraham is standing by with this cloture motion filed by McConnell. It means the game is on. Let's see where they stand. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Absolutely, Sean. This is going to be an exciting end of the week into the weekend with how these votes are going to go down, but things are looking up for Brett Kavanaugh and will be looking forward to covering every aspect of this. HANNITY: Well, I hope you're right. INGRAHAM: It's been fun to have you in Washington. I mean, I don't know what we're going to do for fun without you now. HANNITY: Thank you for -- I am leaving. It's all yours, the swamp, the sewer, the whole bit. I can't take it anymore. I'm out of here. INGRAHAM: Yes, you go back --yes, Hannity, you go back to real America in Long Island. HANNITY: I'm going back to the other swamp. The high (inaudible) swamp in New York. INGRAHAM: OK, good, the oceanfront swamp in Long Island. HANNITY: You are a way overpaid say that. Your team go to be (inaudible) INGRAHAM: I think there's gender pay disparity -- I'm feeling a trigger coming on. I'm just teasing you. I love having you on the show. HANNITY: I hope you're right in your optimism. We will see. I don't have a lot of faith in some Republicans. INGRAHAM: Well, Sean, it was great to have you here, all kidding aside. You have a great trip home. HANNITY: Good to see you. Have a great show. INGRAHAM: All right, welcome to Washington. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is "The Ingraham Angle." Breaking news as Sean just said moments ago, Mitch McConnell announcing at the Senate floor that the Senate Judiciary Committee has received the supplemental FBI background report on Brett Kavanaugh and we are also told that individual senators will be reviewing the contents in less than 12 hours from now. We'll keep you updated throughout the hour on developments as they come in. And also tonight, is Dr. Ford's story really falling apart? We expose some key inconsistencies from her testimony tonight that others have, well, decided to look the other way on. And we'll also delve into the backlash against President Trump for his comments about Ford with Raymond Arroyo. Plus, a body language expert -- oh, I love that -- is here to take us through some of her more revealing answers from last week's hearing. I hope she doesn't do that to me, the body language thing. I don't want myself to be analyzed. And if these allegations against him are proved false, what are Judge Kavanaugh's legal options? One of the nation's top defamation lawyers will be here to tell us. But first, the Kavanaugh wake-up call the GOP needed. That's the focus of tonight's "Angle." As ugly and vicious as the war on Brett Kavanaugh has been, it might actually prove to be a gift for Republicans. More fair- minded Americans have grown weary of the Democrats' perpetual intimidation tactics and stalling games. And I think they are beginning to see the smear campaign for what it is. And as a result, the GOP is more energized than they have been since, I think, right after the 2016 election. They want Republicans to stick together on Capitol Hill, not back down in the face of this leftist mob squad, and they want them to fight for what's right, which is what the president did last night in Mississippi. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: How did you get home? I don't remember. How did you get there? I don't remember. Where is the place? I don't remember. How many years ago was it? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know! What neighborhood was it? I don't know. Where is the house? I don't know. Upstairs, downstairs, where was it? I don't know, but I had one beer. That's the only thing I remember. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And of course he nails it. Totally nails it. And for the crime of being honest, the left is slashing back. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: The president went to a new low yesterday even for him in mocking Dr. Ford. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: I can't think of anything more -- inappropriate is not -- it doesn't -- it's not descriptive enough. It's mean. It's mean. SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: Not only a slap in the face to Dr. Ford, but to all survivors and women in general. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: "You are mean. You are attacking victims. You don't have any empathy." No, he's making a series of common sense conclusions about Ford's very shaky claims and shifting accounts that were based on an uncorroborated memory. Remember last week, he said she came off as quite credible. But after that Mitchell report comes out, we begin to weigh what she said initially to what she said before the committee. And it's a whole different story. President Trump is speaking straight to the American people and he's reflecting their feelings, their frustrations about this whole thing. And frankly, no Republican even comes close to being as effective as President Trump is. After two bruising and very nasty weeks, I actually see some good emerging. The Kavanaugh battle has pulled the curtain back on just how unprincipled and radical the Democrats have become. A midterm that was once all about Mueller's Russia probe has now become a referendum on the politics of personal destruction, on due process, and on the presumption on innocence. And President Trump's fighting spirit, it's become contagious. Even among some in the GOP establishment. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) SEN. JOHN CONROY (R), TEXAS: This has not been a search for the truth. This has been about search and destroy. SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R), KENTUCKY: It's time to put this embarrassing spectacle behind us. The American people are sick of the display that's been put on here in the United States Senate. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (D), SOUTH CAROLINA: Whether you are a Trump Republican, a Bush Republican, a McCain Republican, a libertarian or a vegetarian, you are pissed. I've never seen the Republican Party so unified as I do right now. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: With the exception of a few holdouts like Flake, Collins and Murkowski, Republicans -- I think Lindsey Graham is right. They are really united. I think they are as united as they've been since maybe 9/11. Even those establishment types, the ones you just heard. I don't think I can't remember a time where they sounded better. Because they recognize now that when -- even a moderate Bush Republican like Brett Kavanaugh can be treated this way? Any Republican is vulnerable. Now, how are the voters processing all of this? Here are some of my callers from today's radio show. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I heard the president last night. He wasn't mocking her. He was telling exactly what the American people need to know. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When all of this is done and the FBI report comes out that says there's nothing there, nobody is going to try and repair this man's credit. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My parents have for their entire life voted Democrat. My parents are livid that the Democrats are trying to destroy a good man's name. They are going to vote straight ticket Republican and they are never going to look back. (END AUDIO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Wow. And meanwhile, Democratic enthusiasm seems to be waning a bit. According to a new NPR poll, there were 10 points separating the number of Democrats and Republicans who said the November elections were very important. But now that number is down to just two points. The attacks against Kavanaugh and the ongoing smear campaign have awaken the Republican base, and not a moment too soon. And it's resonating far beyond the base, I think. President Trump said as much last night. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: They are destroying him and they're destroying his reputation and we can't let that happen. I want to do what's right for this country. This is a very important time in our country. The Democrats party has become too extreme! This is an example of it, and too dangerous to be trusted with power. That is why you must vote Republican on Election Day and you have to go out and vote. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Like I said before, a lot of the fair-minded voters, people who are not obsessed with politics every day, but just basically have a pretty good barometer on what's right and wrong, these people are thinking, if the Democrats can poison the confirmation of a qualified judge with a clean record, an exemplary judicial record like a Kavanaugh's? Imagine what they are going to do if they actually get power back, if they are back in power in the House or the Senate? Watch your wallet. A new Fox News poll indicates that the Kavanaugh fight is having a big impact on some key senatorial races. In North Dakota, Republican challenger Kevin Cramer is now leading Senator Heidi Heitkamp by 12 points, 53 to 41. Last month, he was up only by four, 48 to 44 percent. And the Missouri senate race is all tied up at 43 percent. Three weeks ago, incumbent Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill was up three points on her Republican challenger Josh Hawley, but no longer. And in Tennessee, the senate contest there, Republican Marsha Blackburn is now up several points ahead of Democrat Phil Bredesen by 48 to a 43 percent margin. My friends, Brett Kavanaugh -- not just someone I've known for 28 years, he's someone that I know and deep in here, that he deserves a seat on the Supreme Court. I can't think of many people who deserve it more than he does, as a matter of fact. But no matter what happens next, the Democrats have revealed themselves and their slime ball tactics to the American people. And in the midterms, I think millions of Americans will have a stark choice to make. Do they want to green light more of the Democrat's shameless scorched earth politics of resistance, or do they want to vote for candidates who stand for results and something better, like decency and due process? And that's "The Angle." Joining me now is Dave Bossie, former Trump deputy campaign manager and Chris Hahn, radio host and former aide to Senator Chuck Schumer. All right Chris. This FBI report was never going to make a difference to the Democrats, but can't you just admit now that this was all about delay at this point? They were going to vote for Kavanaugh anyway, were they? CHRIS HAHN, RADIO HOST: Well, look, I don't think you have many Democrats that were going to vote for him. There might be two or three that are still considering it. And I guess they will read the report tonight, tomorrow, and we'll see what happens. Obviously, the leader filing cloture -- I used to work at the Senate. When you file cloture when I was there, that meant something so, I think it still mean something today. So, we'll see what happens in the next day or two whether or not they have the votes to actually confirm Kavanaugh. And filing cloture to me is bad news for people opposing Kavanaugh right now. I would think that he's probably got the votes if he's making that statement. But we'll see what happens. As for your angle and what this means for the midterms, I find it hard to believe that this is going to bring out more Republicans than would've ordinarily come out anyway. The Republican base is pretty solid in midterm years. It's the Democratic base that fluctuates dramatically. I also find it hard to believe that working class and blue collar Americans are going to rally behind a prep school guy that probably reminds them more of Ted McGinley's character in "Revenge of the Nerds" than anything that they know particularly in their lives. INGRAHAM: Chris, did you hear the voters in West Virginia last week. I guess it was (inaudible) Friday, it's all of a blur, yes. In Nevada and in Mississippi. This is not exactly, you know, this is not exactly like, you know, New England here. HAHN: Right. INGRAHAM: We had southern Republicans and conservatives -- Kavanaugh is a proxy for the 2016 election and the future of the country. It's a proxy issue for the Democrats. It's not about oh, he's a Yale kid who drank too much. Who doesn't drink too much in college? I think the Democrats look like a bunch of tea totaling prudes in my view. Dave Bossie, I want to go to you. As Republicans are not sold on this president -- three of them at least -- on the way he discussed Christine Ford last night in Mississippi. And the three Republicans that are pivotal all criticized him. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. SUSAN COLLINS (R), MAINE: The president's comments were just plain wrong. SEN. LISA MURKOWSKI (R), ALASKA: I don't approve of the comments from last night. I thought that they were wrong and extraordinarily unfortunate. SEN JEFF FLAKE, (R), ARIZONA: I wish he hadn't have done it. I'm just going to say it's kind of appalling. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: A Flake and Coons going on a road show, that's all I have to know. Looks like joined at the hip. You can't ever find one without the other. DAVE BOSSIE, FORMER TRUMP DEPUTY CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Laura, can you hear me? I couldn't hear Chris Hahn at all. INGRAHAM: OK, it's basically just a series of sound bites, Republicans, Murkowski, Collins and Flake criticizing the president. BOSSIE: Got it. And you were going to come with me with a question? INGRAHAM: OK. Well, he can't hear me. All right, Chris, I'll just take you on one on one. (CROSSTLAK) INGRAHAM: So you got three Republicans that are critical, OK. Flake, Murkowski, and Collins, they were not wild about the president's comments last night. But that's not going to move their vote one way or another. This report is going to be critical and I think from everything that I'm hearing, the report does not bolster Christine Ford's credibility at all. At all! HAHN: Look, I think it's all about the report. I don't think -- look, they've been critical of the president in the past and they've still voted with him on many occasions. So, I think the report is critical to them. And again, I see the cloture vote and that concerns me. I would imagine if I was Leader McConnell and I was filing a cloture vote. I would've talked to at least two of them. I think they might have lost Murkowski on other issues anyway, but Collins and Flake were very critical on this vote and I think that I would have made that call and whip (ph) those votes before I made this motion. Now we'll see. Maybe he's just making them take a hard vote ahead of the midterms. But back to the original discussion about the midterms, Laura, I really just don't see this lasting especially if he is confirmed over the weekend. I don't think that 30 days from now this is still an issue. And I also do not think that SCOTUS voters, people who come out vote for Supreme Court justices in there thinking of the vote -- INGRAHAM: I got to say, Chris -- HAHN: I don't think -- INGRAHAM: The court was a really, no, the court was a really important part of Christian conservatives, Catholic conservatives, the faithful -- the court was critical. I disagree with you. I know it's the law and it's - - HAHN: But Laura, but what I'm -- INGRAHAM: But the court was critical. I'm sorry, we got Bossie back and we're shortchanging Bossie because he couldn't hear. (Inaudible) there was gremlin in your earpiece, but we are talking about Collins, Flake, and Murkowski. This report I don't think this is going to make Christine Ford's testimony any more credible. Do you think that they are going to buck the president on this for any reason at this point? BOSSIE: No, I don't think they are going to do that at all. I think this is why the president got elected. It's very important to the Republican voters across this country to send Donald Trump to the White House that he gets the Supreme Court nominee through. And we're going to get Kavanaugh through and we have seen a bump throughout the polling across the country. But one of the more important things the Republicans need to wake up to is the chaos, the chaos that this Democrat Party is involved in. Let's look at the last two weeks, the chaos of Washington and of America. That's what you get with a Democrat majority in the house. You get this every single day, nothing else. Only Trump derangement syndrome, Trump hatred, and the ability for them -- you subpoena depositions, the hearing process, to rake people over the coals and ruin their lives just like they tried to do to Brett Kavanaugh. INGRAHAM: All right guys, we got to go to John Turley now, Professor Turley. The senate now has their hands on the FBI supplement or report Kavanaugh, but the Senate Democrats are not waiting really for the findings. They've already made up their minds. Listen to Cory Booker today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: Ultimately, not whether he's innocent or guilty. This is not a trial, but ultimately has enough questions be raised that we should not move on to another candidate? And that long list put together by the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society, move on to another candidate. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: We'll get right on that Cory. Joining me now is constitution law expert Jonathan Turley. Professor Turley, how damaging is it that the Democrats have -- they seemingly abandoned the idea of just fundamental fairness, due process. I think that's a way for the Republican Democrat prism right now and look at it as just what are the facts, sir? What are the facts meant? JONATHAN TURLEY, PROFESSOR, GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY: What's troubling is the Democrats keep this mantra that it's not a trial and that this is just how you feel about the judge. They are acting as a fact finder. That's different from sitting on a committee and voting on legislation. There is an element of fairness and decency that has to come in. So what's your standard even if you apply a clear preponderance standard, that often means that you are about 75 percent certain of your decision. Could you say that on this evidence? Could you even say by preponderance that it tips either way? I think the most you could possibly say, and this is what we call an equipoise, it's equal, if you believe both sides equally. So under any of those standards is very hard to vote against Kavanaugh unless you go with Senator Booker's idea that it no longer matters. If someone accuses you, if there are enough people to accuse you -- INGRAHAM: One accusation uncorroborated is enough to knock you out of a promotion or a job. TURLEY: And whether innocent or guilty or not. (Inaudible) would you want a justice that took that position? These senators kept on asking him what type of justice will you be. Would you want a justice that follows the standard that these senators are suggesting? INGRAHAM: That's a great point. Oh, my gosh. I think -- I wish that point was actually raised last week at the hearing because, of course they wouldn't and many of the same Democrats are in favor of prison reform, which this demonstration is pursuing, sentencing reform, which I think they are going to get to, the idea of redemption and clemency in general which again, the old Democrat party used to in embrace. So it is a bit of a turnabout for them on that. Do you think that the FBI investigation itself, now, it's not going to become public -- it's some weird process here -- only one copy will be brought to the Senate. It's like the transpacific partnership. Remember that was like kept on a vault on the basement and you couldn't take -- TURLEY: The concern is to swallow it in. INGRAHAM: Yes, exactly. So, it's one copy and I guess they have an hour each to -- an hour or half hour each to read it. Only nine staffers are going to be able to look at it. It's not to be made public. And Mitch McConnell really wants to ensure that it's not to be made public. Is that going to hurt Republicans or is there some wisdom to keeping this within the Senate? TURLEY: Well, he's right. I'm not so sure I would put those time limitations on it, but he's certainly right about keeping it out of public view. This is not a Sherlock Holmes novel. This is not, you know, a conclusion at the end of a gotcha (ph) where we found, you know, the lead pipe in the dining room with the body. These are just basically raw statements. And when you do litigation typically the 302, and I do that a lot, they are the rawest of the raw. I mean, these are FBI who are just going into the field and saying, this is what these guys said. And they often put in a lot of stuff that even they may doubt because they want to bring in all those data into the system. It's not fair to a person to have that type of raw information released. And it's not fair to Judge Kavanaugh and then it's not fair to all the other nominees. And these things have not been made public in the past. INGRAHAM: Well, because in the past like with the Anita Hill thing, she had made an allegation that they looked into and could find no corroboration for, but then that was leaked. So that was never supposed to see the light of day, but again, they try to push it onto the public and that ended up, you know, doing what it did to that nomination. Ultimately, obviously, the confirmation went through. Jonathan Turley, always great to see you. Thank so much for being here. And what a great point. That's the kind of justice we want him to be on the court. Christine Blasey Ford's accusation against Kavanaugh, it seems to be collapsing on almost every front. We will detail those points, next. Plus, a top defamation lawyer joins me on what recourse Kavanaugh might have if those accusations bear no fruit. He was a former partner at Kirkland and Ellis with Kavanaugh where he was also a lawyer. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Christine Ford's story is falling apart. Period. First, Ford's ex-boyfriend and a high school friend may have exposed some blatant lies surrounding her polygraph test. And do you remember Ford's bizarre story about wanting two doors in the front of her house? Well, the remodelling project she claim prompted her to reveal the assault allegations back in 2012 to her then therapist and to her husband. Well now, A RealClearPolitics investigation found some discrepancies in her timeline. Records indicate the double door renovation took place in 2008, four years earlier. Joining us with more is Victor Davis Hansen, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. All right, VDH, the two doors and of course the author of the book "The Case for Trump." Victor you've made this point that there is there is a big difference between credibility based on fact and personal empathy. Explain how these latest details illuminate that point. VICTOR DAVIS HANSEN, SENIOR FELLOW, HOOVER INSTITUTION: Well, I think, coming into where we are today, she wasn't able to locate this supposed assault with the time or the date and she had the early `80s, the mid `80s, the late `80s. She was a young mid-teenager, a little bit older. So there was a lot of doubt. And we've had the collapse of the fifth accuser, sixth -- fourth -- fifth, fourth third, second, Swetnick, Ramirez -- that didn't help. And now we have the boyfriend coming forward. And her own testimony where she said about -- that she admitted that she flies regularly, that's corroborated by the boyfriend. The two door thing, people in Palo Alto have to go doors for one purpose, not because they are claustrophobic, but because they want get extra income and have a renter come in. That seems to be true of her. I think the tragedy though, Laura, is that I don't think she ever thought she'd have to come forward at all. She would write this anonymous writ and then that would sort of float out and cast out and that might just panic the Republicans and Kavanaugh would withdraw, but she gave -- it's sad because she gave one to many narratives. She gave a narrative to the therapist. She gave a narrative to Dianne Feinstein, she gave a narrative to "The Washington Post," she gave a narrative to her testimony. And she brought it up against a pretty seasoned prosecutor. And those narratives cannot be reconciled. They are mutually exclusive. They contradict each other. And whether it's on the lie detector or the circumstances about flying or particular names who were supposed to corroborate, and so, here we are where it's collapses. INGRAHAM: Yes. Hold on, Victor, to illustrate how the left -- they substitute emotion for reason and they want everyone else to buy into it as well. So, Jennifer Granholm, one of your favorites, said this a few days ago. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JENNIFER GRANHOLM, POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: The part that's so frustrating about this is that we have a woman who gets up there and takes an oath and who comes across to most people as incredibly credible, or is that soon. I'm not sure if that's the right thing to say, but as amazingly credible. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Incredibly credible, amazingly credible. It's a shocker she is not -- HANSEN: That comes right out of the French revolution, not the history of American jurisprudence. You can be sincere maybe or empathetic, but it has nothing to do with reason and logic and credibility. She was incredible and I think that the fact that she was empathetic and sincere gets you only so far. So, in a weird way, Cory Booker was right when he said doesn't matter anymore because we are into the realm not of legality anymore. It's not about Kavanaugh, it's not about Trump, it's not about raw fear politics in the arena and the Democrats are saying, you know what, we've lost the Senate, we've lost the House, we've lost the presidency, we are going to lose the Supreme Court. We have no other trajectory to get this progressive agenda so we are going to bet the farm, so to speak, that we are going to use revolutionary tactics. Ad now, this election is a referendum on whether you believe you can swarm a senator on the way to work or you can get in the face of a senator in an elevator or bother somebody in the restaurant. INGRAHAM: Yes. HANSEN: Yes, and that's what they are saying. INGRAHAM: I mean, that's the behavior now here in Washington. I mean, no matter where you go. It's excessive. You can point your middle finger out to my children and say, you know, blank off and they should know that's more power to you. Power to the people. HANSEN: Yes. That's the existential referendum the American people are going to side. Are you for due process? Are you for revolutionary fervor? Are you for reason? Are you for emotion? Are you for the street antics of Antifa brought into the senate? Are you for custom and practice of the U.S. Congress? And, you know, there is one other element. I think they are really angry because it's kind of a self-inflicted wound. Barack Obama set that precedent when he said I won, election matters. OK, that's what a president does when he wins. He picks people. Joe Biden 30 years ago, never in his right mind, thought that the Senate Judiciary Committee would be controlled by Republicans and there would be a lame duck Democrat when he made the Biden rule. And then finally Harry Reid never thought they would take back the senate. The Republicans would -- INGRAHAM: It's all coming back, victor at a time. It's all coming back to bite them. The truth ultimately wins out in the end. And it comes back to bite them. HANSEN: Sets us free. INGRAHAM: Thanks so much, Victor. Great to see you as always. And what happens next? So, if all these stories, or any of these stories are proven false, what recourse could Judge Kavanaugh have? Or can you just smear and swarm your way back into power. Tom Claire is just one of the country's preeminent attorneys on defamation cases, an old friend, and he joins us now. Tom, thanks so much for being here. Can Kavanaugh pursue a defamation case here if one or any of these claims is false? TOM CLARE, DEFAMATION ATTORNEY: Absolutely, Laura. There is so much reckless conduct out there and reckless speech starting with the accusers, starting with the media and repeating these uncorroborated and baseless allegations without knowing whether it's true or false. It is absolutely reckless. Celebrity lawyers that are jumping in front of cameras to repeat this stuff, he absolutely has recourse. It's the only thing in our system that you can do, is to pursue a defamation claim. INGRAHAM: Well, so Avenatti comes out the other night and says I talked to someone in Florida who said that Kavanaugh drop Quaaludes into a punch bowl and spikes the punch bowl, that's a crime. You can't put drugs into -- now, is that enough for a defamation case? Could it be? CLARE: It absently can be. You're falsely accusing someone of a criminal act, of drugging someone for the purposes of a sexual assault. And if that statement was made recklessly, and I certainly believe it was, there's plenty of elements of recklessness in that sort of a conduct, it gives rise to a defamation claim. And Judge Kavanaugh should absolutely keep those options on the table. INGRAHAM: But don't we have horrible laws in this country for public figures who are maligned? I'm a public figure. People can basically say anything you want. You just shrug your shoulders. It's water of a duck's back for me at this point. But it's pretty amazing. President Trump spoke about this last night. I want to play it for you. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We better start as a country getting smart and getting tough and not letting that stuff, right back there, all those cameras, tell us how to live our lives. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Fake news. We have the worst libel laws anywhere in the world. They can say anything they want, and we can't sue them, because if you are famous, you can't sue. Figure that out. Think of your son. Think of your husband! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So great. We were just watching this, enjoying this in the studio. I could watch it for an hour. A false statement, you say it knowingly, you have to show recklessness when it's a public figure, with malice? CLARE: So malice is the constitutional standard. What that means for a public speaker is you have to show that the speaker knew it was false or acted recklessly in making that statement. And that's what we've got here. We've got all sorts of red flags. We've got all sorts of inconsistencies in the testimony. We've got all sorts of reasons why people should be pumping the brakes. But instead everybody is diving in front of cameras and destroying this man's reputation. And the only recourse he has is to go to the courts and get a vindication. INGRAHAM: If he's a confirmed Supreme Court justice, he's not going to be filing a defamation case? CLARE: I wouldn't think so. But I think we would -- INGRAHAM: Mark Judge could, perhaps. CLARE: Marks Judge good. Others involved in this sage could, for sure. INGRAHAM: He's not a public figure. CLARE: But even Justice Kavanaugh, and I do certainly hope he is confirmed, he deserves to be. But even then, his legacy will be tarnished by this. He will never know and his great grandchildren will never get a chance to meet him, what they will read about him thanks to the Internet and thanks to this are these scurrilous allegations. INGRAHAM: Rape train, and all these -- so you think you should pursue this even if he makes it to the court? CLARE: I think he ought to keep it on the table even if he is on the Supreme Court. INGRAHAM: Tom, thank you. Tom, this is illuminating. We really wanted to talk to you. Thank you so much for making time for us tonight. One of the top defamation lawyers in this entire country. Up next, a special Kavanaugh edition of "Seen and Unseen" with Raymond Arroyo. You don't want to see miss this one. Stay there. INGRAHAM: It's time for our "Seen and Unseen" segment with a special focus on the Kavanaugh fight. Tonight's edition breaks down the seen, comparing Trump's remarks last night to Dr. Ford's testimony, and the unseen, secrets from inside the Blasey Ford yearbook. Joining us with more, Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series. Raymond, this is wild, because we have located a page of the Christine Ford yearbook, a page that she wrote herself. An entry, not a whole page, but a note that she wrote herself. What does it tell us? We'll put it up on the screen. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Here she refers to herself as "Blas," B-l-a-s. It tells us something about the culture at this Holton- Arms school. You can't read it. I will read some of these lines for you. Some of them say, "passed out in John..." Later, "trapped till you toss," I guess threw up. "Whiz on the shower," "pass out on garage floor." INGRAHAM: Who doesn't do that? ARROYO: Who doesn't do that? "No, because you wet the bed." I'd like to get the full story. I want a hearing of what these notes mean. INGRAHAM: Friends of mine that go to Holton that were that same vintage said that that basically that is a note on weekends that describes various things that happened on the weekend. ARROYO: That they did on the weekend. INGRAHAM: It's high school in the 80s, party. ARROYO: "I love Mr. Scott's wee-wee" and "orange on rug." I'm not even going there. INGRAHAM: I don't even want to know. ARROYO: Then there's pictures of her at underage parties where there is drinking, binge drinking going on. They have a caption where they talk about a girl passing from binge drinking. Look, this is what this tells us. At Holton-Arms, these girls were not exactly at a convent school praying with the nuns in the evenings. This was fast times at Holton high. They were chasing boys and drinking booze. It was the culture of the place. ARROYO: I don't like looking at anyone's yearbook. INGRAHAM: Anyone's yearbook. ARROYO: I find this unseemly. INGRAHAM: That's so true, but if you're going to comb through Kavanaugh's yearbook, which we think is stupid, then at least take a gander. How people miss this entry is beyond me. But it's a snapshot of some wild times. ARROYO: What's good for the goose is good for the accuser. In that vein, I have copies here of the Glastonbury High yearbook, your yearbook. I'm going to share this maybe later in the week, and we are going to get your boyfriend to call in during the segment. INGRAHAM: Peter, don't talk. ARROYO: The president is taking fire for comments he made last night at the rally you saw earlier about the credibility of Dr. Ford's claims. We attach those comments to Dr. Ford's for some context. Look at this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: How did he get home? I don't remember. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Has anyone come forward to say to you, hey, remember, I was the one who drove you home? CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD: No. TRUMP: Where was the place? I don't remember. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You describe is placed near the country club, wherever this house was, is that right? FORD: I would describe it as somewhere between my house and the country club. TRUMP: How many years was IT? I don't know. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How are you able to narrow down the timeframe? FORD: I can't give the exact date. TRUMP: But I had one beer. That's the only thing I remember. FORD: I drink one beer. Brett and Mark were visibly drunk. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Raymond, what do you think the impact is? ARROYO: I've got to tell you this, like you, most Americans, first of all, they're looking at this. This is like President Dangerfield. Trump's timing -- INGRAHAM: That was not scripted. ARROYO: No, he's making this up. But it's evidentiary based. INGRAHAM: He was like, boom, boom, boom. ARROYO: It's feisty, it's fun. People love this. INGRAHAM: Bing, bing, bing. ARROYO: On the other hand, this is very risky for Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation. There are senators who are on the fence. INGRAHAM: Murkowski, Flake, and Collins, all were annoyed by this. ARROYO: And they're looking at Donald Trump, all along he's been presidential, reserved, solemn. All of a sudden, he's going into the night cycle. INGRAHAM: I like that. I like that. ARROYO: I know you like it, but it might push some of these senators on the fence in the wrong direction. As a political speech, this is riling up the base, and it's great for midterms, no doubt about it. INGRAHAM: All right, now, reacting to all of this, some Hollywood stars are planning a rally in D.C. tomorrow. How ridiculous, to protest the nomination. ARROYO: They're very upset. And let me tell you, you heard from Trump, men are very worried about these false claims. This is Alyssa Milano. Listen to what she said, of course the guest star at the Kavanaugh hearings. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALYSSA MILANO, ACTRESS: Whereas Trump might say that white men have it very difficult right now, I am saying that women, young people, have had it difficult for generations and generations and generations. And we will not be silenced any longer. And if that means that man have a hard time right now, then, I'm sorry. This is the way the pendulum has to shift. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Sorry, Raymond. ARROYO: I guess we are out of luck. INGRAHAM: Yes, sorry. ARROYO: You can make empty charges? INGRAHAM: I have to say to Alyssa Milano, who's the boss? Donald Trump. Sorry, for now, at least as the president. ARROYO: There's a big protest rally. John Legend, Whoopi Goldberg, Lena Dunham, right here in D.C. They are also staging a walkout again across the nation. Remember, this happened a few weeks ago. They wore black. They walked out of their place of work. Nothing says I want a good Supreme Court like leaving your job in the middle of the day. But that's what they are doing. So this is where we are. We will cover that and bring you full coverage. INGRAHAM: John Legend, if you sing, maybe I'll show up. But other than that I'm not really interested in your political comments. ARROYO: Can't wait to hear from your high school boyfriend. I'll do the full report, everybody. INGRAHAM: We keep in touch, OK. ARROYO: OK. INGRAHAM: I'm already inoculated. ARROYO: I'm going to report. You decide. INGRAHAM: Coming up, pretend crying, a baby girl voice, and inappropriate smiling? Those are just some of the things that a body language expert says stood out when Christine Blasey Ford was testifying. She joins us next. INGRAHAM: Our next guest is a nonpartisan and unbiased body language and to communications expert. She spent decades as an expert witness for criminal and civil cases, and she's made an objective analysis for "The Ingraham Angle" of the Ford, Kavanaugh testimony. And Dr. Lillian Glass joins us from L.A. with her findings. Lillian, thank you so much for being here. I find this entire topic fascinating. And I love it. DR. LILIAN GLASS, BODY LANGUAGE EXPERT: Great to be here, Laura. INGRAHAM: I want to take you to a few moments from Christine Ford's testimony and get your reaction. GLASS: All right. INGRAHAM: The first up were her comments about her therapist's notes. Let's watch. GLASS: OK. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you show a full or partial set of those marriage therapy records to "The Washington Post"? DR. CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD: I don't remember. I'm remember summarizing for her what they said. So I'm not quite sure if I actually gave her the record. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So it's possible that the reporter did not see these notes? FORD: I don't know. I can't recall whether she saw them directly or if I just told her what they said. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Lillian, what does that tell you? GLASS: It's fascinating, because, first of all, she uses that little baby girl voice that she uses when she's feeling vulnerable, or caught, so to speak. And you are seeing her have her head to the side, which is a very vulnerable body language position. And she doesn't seem to remember what happened actually two months ago, but she certainly can remember what happened with Kavanaugh. So it's fascinating to see what happens. She's looking down. So in terms of this situation, it's not ringing true. She's not being forthright here for some reason. INGRAHAM: Now, there's another moment where she is talking about her best friend, Leland Keyser, who she had reported was in the house at the time of the alleged report. And she was questioned about Miss Keyser. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you have any particular motives to ascribe to Leland? FORD: Leland has significant health challenges, and I'm happy that she's focusing on herself and getting the health treatment that she needs. And she let me know that she needed her lawyer to take care of this for her. (END VIDEO CLIP) GLASS: Wow. Wow. INGRAHAM: Talk about throwing under the bus. Forget the body language. GLASS: Exactly. INGRAHAM: What about the way she looks, appears in her vocal inflection at that moment? That's her friend. GLASS: Her vocal inflection -- yes, her vocal inflection is completely different. She says I'm really happy, and she doesn't show happiness for her friend. And she does throw her under the bus, telling about her friend's health problems. And then she talks about the fact that the lawyer wants to get involved, maybe against her for exposing this. This is quite personal information. And then you see her head down. She's looking down. She's not confident in terms of what she's saying. And it's very disconcerting. INGRAHAM: Now, another moment is when she's discussing the polygraph. That's a pretty big deal, it just happened a couple of months earlier, not even a couple of months earlier, when she sat down for a polygraph. I want your take on the body language here. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Were you audio and video recorded when you were taking that test? FORD: OK, so I remember being hooked up to a machine, being placed onto my body, and being asked a lot of questions, and crying a lot. That's my primary memory of that test. I don't know, and I wasn't listening to every detail whether it was audio or video recorded. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's not even getting into the grandmother's funeral time- stamp on that. But what are your thoughts on that? GLASS: Two things, Laura. First of all, when you start a sentence with "OK, so," you are in trouble. And then when you are looking down and you are not communicating straightforward to a very easy answer, there is a problem here. INGRAHAM: So again, if you are answering truthfully, would your eyes lock on the questioner? A lot of people look away when they're telling the truth. GLASS: Absolutely. INGRAHAM: A lot of people look away, don't they. GLASS: Of course, because they are not comfortable. But she's looking down. She's not just looking away. She's specifically looking down. And that speaks volumes. And she's talking about the polygraph, she doesn't remember. And this happened, as you said, recently in her lifetime, not 35 years ago. INGRAHAM: All right, I'm checking my body language. Making sure -- GLASS: You better. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Forthright. Lillian, thanks so much. We really appreciate it. And coming up, a Democratic staffer caught today after engaging in criminality against Kavanaugh supporting GOP senators. The shocking details of what happened, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, (R) SOUTH CAROLINA: I don't want to know, not so much about me. I want to deter an abuse of the process because if this is going to be the new norm, God help us all. Who would want to come before this committee if we are going to do this. And the people who did it, I hope they don't get away with it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, he didn't get away with it. Earlier this evening Capitol police arrested former Democratic congressional staffer Jackson Cosko who allegedly doxed a handful of Republican senators and then posted their personal info online. What a charmer. Former Utah Congressman, author of "The Deep State," Jason Chaffetz was himself a target of the left intimidation tactics while he was in Congress, and he joins me now. Congressman, thanks so much for being with us tonight. This can't be surprising to you, right, given everything you have been through. But of course it's a Democrat staffer, now former Democrat staffer. JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. This is how the deep state acts. It's the resistance movement. It's scorched-earth. And what's interesting about this case, this person isn't just charged with putting Mike Lee's home address and telephone number, he did three senators, that information out there. But witness tampering, I want to know more about what in the world that is. But also identity theft, second-degree burglary, false identity. And the police went out of their way to say there are probably going to be more charges. INGRAHAM: We were talking earlier, Jason, about making people pay who allege these defamatory falsehoods, whether it's against a judicial candidate knowing that the thing is so outrageous and false, or recklessly referencing it, that people have to either be penalized severely or it's going to keep happening. And same thing with this. You've got to throw the book at people who do this. Republicans are always on the defense. You've got to go on the offense against these people. CHAFFETZ: You have got to see some people actually behind bars. Let's see if they actually not only charge him but they actually prosecute him and put him in jail, and make sure that every single federal employee sees that. Most of them are good, hardworking, decent, patriotic people, but there's an element in there that knows they won't get arrested, they won't get prosecuted, they won't even get fired. INGRAHAM: Was it during Obama when one of those State Department employees, I can't remember, it was like rolling through people's passports or passport applications, just trolling for personal information. I bet it's a lot more common than we know, and these are just the ones we find out about. Final thoughts? CHAFFETZ: How about the whole IRS investigation we did with Lois Lerner, and the federal government had to go back and pay people because, yes, their rights were trampled on. Nobody got fired, nobody got docked their pay. Nobody went to jail, nobody was charged. And the federal government, the federal employees, they all know this, they know they can get away with it. INGRAHAM: That all has to end. The tyranny of mediocrity is one thing. The tyranny of criminality in the bureaucracy is a whole other ball of wax. Jason Chaffetz, thank you so much tonight. And CNN on the receiving end of some hard truths from a journalistic giant. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. Veteran journalist Ted Koppel turning his fire on CNN, much to the media reporter Brian Stelter's surprise. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRIAN STELTER, CNN ANCHOR: If ratings are up, that means what? TED KOPPEL: The ratings are up, it means that you can't do without Donald Trump. You would be lost without Donald Trump. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's what he says. STELTER: You know that's not true. KOPPEL: CNN's ratings would be in the toilet without Donald Trump. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Brian is like, oops, who invited him on this panel? I'll just leave it there. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" fantastic team are here to take it away. All the new developments from Capitol Hill and beyond. Shannon. 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Lied Under Oath and Now Backtracking Her Claims Saying that She's Not Sure if It Was Brett Kavanaugh She Saw in that Party 33 years Ago; President Trump Has Said that in this Era of the Me Too Movement, It Is Very Difficult for Men Who Are Accused Wrongly of Any Sexual Allegations Because They are Misjudge Without Fair and Due Process; The Mainstream Media and the Democrats are in Rhyme of Their Judgment to Judge Brett Kavanaugh Despite Lack of Corroborating Evidence, and Yet, their Mouths are Zipped when It Comes to DNC Chair Keith Ellison Who is Accused of Sexual Abuse by His Ex- Girlfriend Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST October 2, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7765 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Steve Doocy, Ed Henry Guests: Lindsey Graham, Alan Dershowitz, Alan Dershowitz, Sean Spicer, Dan Bongino, Karen Housley Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Thank you. Congrats on the book, by the way. Welcome to HANNITY. We are in Washington, D.C. This is a Fox News alert. Breaking right now, Fox News has now learned that the FBI supplemental report about Judge Kavanaugh could be delivered to the White House as soon as tomorrow. Now, this couldn't come at a more important time. Dems are now saying they don't want to make public. That's interesting. Now, everything we hold dear as Americans now weighs in the balance as desperate Democrats, people on the left, are trying to unload even more insanity tonight on Brett Kavanaugh, zero consideration of his family. Now, the looming confirmation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh represents so much more than just one seat on the U.S. Supreme Court, where we end up as a country, that hangs in the balance. What we are seeing now is a battle for what is basic human rights and decency, those values that made this country great. On the left, you have Democrats trying to end due process, all presumption of innocence. That's so dangerous for you and your family. They are also asking the American people to suspend every bit of common sense and decency we are all born with and believe that a man with an impeccable 40-year track record is a monster involved in gang rape and drugging young girls, totally uncorroborated and refuted. Fights on boats in Rhode Island, the allegations since recanted, he's never been to Rhode Island. Wild parties, not one person can confirm his attendance. Nobody. And now, a completely ridiculous story from "The New York Times" about, get this, and ice-throwing incident, and Democrats want the FBI to investigate this. Kavanaugh may have once thrown some ice cubes at a bar. This is what it's reduced to. Now, we come up with the course of this program tonight, we are going to expose the left's two-faced attempt to take out Judge Kavanaugh. Five weeks from tonight, 35 days, the most important midterm in our lifetime, do you want Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, do you want Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Maxine Waters, Michael Avenatti controlling your future? Buckle up, it's time for our D.C. breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. So, with the midterm elections just around the corner, five weeks from tonight, 35 days, the results, you will be watching them come in. The stakes could not be anymore obvious. Do you like human rights? Do like our Constitution? Do you value fair trials, due process, presumption of innocence? Do you value simple, basic God-given common sense or do you want a new standard, guilt by accusation? If you care, and you should, get to the polls five weeks from tonight because Democrats, they are now trying to literally upend our entire system just so they can block a Supreme Court nomination and get power. And tonight, President Trump is fighting back. He is standing by Judge Kavanaugh and he's calling on the Senate to send him to the U.S. Supreme Court. Here's what he said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: They've been trying to destroy judge Kavanaugh since the very first second he was announced, because they know Judge Kavanaugh will follow the Constitution as written. (CHEERS) And a man's life is in tatters. A man's life is shattered. His wife is shattered, his daughters, beautiful, incredible young kids. They destroy people. They want to destroy people. These are really evil people. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: As I have said so many times, if Judge Kavanaugh's life is ruined because of refuted allegations with no evidence, no corroboration, guess what? You can be next. People you love can be next. Look at his track record. Decades now in public service and very high- profile jobs. Six, now seven, FBI background checks, hundreds and hundreds of character witnesses that say he is a cut above. Not a single allegation against him until 16 days ago. If we lose the presumption of innocence in this country, I promise you it's never coming back and today, President Trump issued this very serious warning. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: It's a very scary time for young men in America when you can be guilty of something that you may not be guilty of. This is a very, very -- it's a very difficult time. What's happening here has much more to do than even the appointment of a Supreme Court justice. It really does. You could be somebody that was perfect your entire life and somebody could accuse you of something. It doesn't necessarily have to be a woman, as everybody is saying, but somebody could accuse you of something and you are automatically guilty. But in this realm, you are truly guilty until proven innocent. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Thirty-five days before an election, at least tonight, we have confirmation the Democrats clearly do not care about fundamental rights, the Constitution. Democrats apparently don't care -- free people, that their lives are ruined, their families are ruined. Clearly, they just want to win. It's about power. Just look at what they have been using to smear Judge Kavanaugh. It was an uncorroborated sexual misconduct allegation from Professor Ford. He said there was and eyewitness, the eyewitness said it didn't happen. Republicans rightfully took that story seriously. They conducted a full investigation. Professor Ford doesn't remember a date, a day of the week, a location, or how she got to or from the location where the alleged crime took place. No corroborating evidence of any kind. No forensic evidence of any kind. Thirty-six years ago. No one can backup her story in any way. All four witnesses listed by Ford to corroborate her claims deny having any knowledge of what she is alleging. All four in sworn statements under penalty of felony, including one of Ford's lifelong friends. Now, Democrats and a few spineless Republicans tonight, they thought this baseless accusation deserved an FBI background check. It's now well underway. According to reports at this hour, the investigation is now expected to wrap up tomorrow and a source is telling us here at Fox that those who are interviewed continue to refute or deny any knowledge of Professor Ford's claims. Now, next up, you've got your corrupt media, which is an arm of the Democratic Party. I told you in 2007, journalism is dead. They pushed the claim from a woman who thinks she may have potentially witnessed Kavanaugh expose himself at a college party. This was, of course, printed. Well, then she would find out for "The New York Times," she wasn't exactly sure Kavanaugh was the perpetrator, was calling former Yale classmates to ask them. Calling around to friends, do you remember the incident? They did not. She even acknowledges memory gaps from the evening, "The New York Times" refused to run the story because of lack of evidence. But let not your heart be troubled. We're going to get back to "The Times" in a moment. Now, first, then we have a third claim, a woman named Julie Swetnick, three being represented by anti-Trump zealot Michael Avenatti, and she is alleging Kavanaugh, get this, was involved in regular serial drugging, gang raping, what was a scheme that went almost every weekend, 10 parties she went to, when she was in college and Brett Kavanaugh was in high school, where boys were drugged these young girls, line up in the hall so they can rape them. NBC News actually aired this interview where she backtracked tremendously. How they air this with zero collaboration is beyond any journalistic ethical standards. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REPORTER: In that statement, Swetnick said she became aware of efforts by Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge to spike punch at parties. In our interview, she said she saw them near the punch but did not specifically say she saw either men spike it. Did you see Brett Kavanaugh, you know, spiking the punch? Putting -- JULIE SWETNICK, KAVANAUGH ACCUSER: I saw him giving red solo cups to quite a few girls during that time. I saw him around the punch -- I wouldn't say bowls, or the punch containers. I don't know what he did but I saw him by them. REPORTER: Are there friends who remember these parties, too, and remember you -- SWETNICK: I think everybody in the county remembers these parties. REPORTER: Because we haven't heard from those friends. So, I'm asking, you know, are there people alive today who you say yes, I went to those parties with you? SWETNICK: Yes, there are people that know about these parties. REPORTER: This morning, Swetnick provided four names of friends she says went to parties with her. One of them said he does not recall a Julie Swetnick. Another of the friends she named is deceased. We've reached out to the other two and haven't heard back. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, remember, NBC News is perfectly happy airing that interview despite no corroboration. One of the four, I don't know who she is. One is dead. Backtracking is spectacular in this case. Remember, the same network sat on the Juanita Broaddrick interview because they could not verify her claims, the same NBC that punted Ronan Farrow's report on Harvey Weinstein. Now, literally, when you thought it couldn't get any more absurd, "The New York Times" publishing a story about a claim that Kavanaugh may have once actually thrown ice at a man at a bar in college for some unknown reason. And as it turned out, the so-called journalist that authored that piece for "The New York Times" against Kavanaugh was a partisan hack. In fact, she came out on Twitter against the confirmation of Judge Kavanaugh the very night he was nominated, just like most Democrats. One Democratic senator from Hawaii is now laughably, although sadly, calling for an investigation into this horrific instance, of ice-throwing. I'm not making this up. The same senator that told men to shut up and sit down. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These police documents that show that Brett Kavanaugh through ice in someone's face during a bar fight when he was in college. Do you feel that that is in any way disqualifying for someone to sit on the Supreme Court? SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: This is why we need an FBI investigation, because there are a lot of allegations and the reports really are about how he behaves when he is drunk. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Here we are tonight, uncorroborated misconduct claims with no evidence to now absurd, really dangerous claims of gang rape on an almost weekend basis, to ice throwing out a bar. Even a new claim from Senator Kamala Harris that an unknown Jane Doe was raped in a car during an unknown time or place. That just came out today. And now the ACLU, which supposedly used to care about civil liberties, they are now asking you to suspend all presumption of innocence. The ACLU, they want you to believe Kavanaugh is just like Bill Cosby and they are spending a fortune to run this despicable ad. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AD ANNOUNCER: We've seen this before, denials from powerful men. BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT: I did not have relations with that woman. BILL COSBY, COMEDIAN: I've never seen anything like this. JUDGE BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT NOMINEE: I categorically and unequivocally denied the allegations against me by Dr. Ford. AD ANNOUNCER: America is watching, and as we choose a lifetime seat on our highest court, we cannot have any doubt. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: ACLU, civil liberties -- no, just a national disgrace. Part of the smear merchant campaign society. Now, meanwhile, left-wing protesters have actively tried to bully Republican senators. You know, remember there was the attorney general of Florida, Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen, Homeland Security, Senator Ted Cruz and, of course, Sarah Sanders, Maxine Waters urging people to get in other people's faces, following into gas stations and grocery stores. Well, Mitch McConnell was accosted at the airport yesterday. Let's look at this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you want the Republican Party to be the public party that is know for promoting rape and sexual assault? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How many stories of sexual violence do you need to hear in order to believe women? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Senator McConnell, do you always turn your back on women like this? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And according now tonight to foxnews.com, many protests like the one you saw him, they are being organized, funded, actually, shockingly, by George Soros and a group that he is backing. He's an extremely wealthy liberal billionaire who wants to take away your Second Amendment rights and he has a different version of what America should be, obviously, oh, a global world. I believe in the United States of America. And as you can see, the left is trying to bully everyone and anyone into believing these smears. They want you to forget Kavanaugh's life of accomplishment, his 40 years of an impeccable track record. They want you to accept the most wild, absurd, he's an alcoholic, degenerate gang-rapist, a guy that drugged women when he was a teenager. Oh, these yearbook pictures, beer drinking, ice throwing. I don't remember any outrage, by the way, over Obama's own account, former president, of his wild high school party days. Maybe the media needs to go back down memory lane. Here's a Hannity history lesson. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: I spent the last two years of high school in a daze, locking away the questions that life seemed insistent on posing. I kept playing basketball, attended classes sparingly, drank beer heavily and tried drugs enthusiastically. I discovered that it didn't make any difference whether you smoke reefer in a white classmates' sparkling new a van or in the dorm room with some brother you met down at the gym, or on the beach with a couple of Hawaiian kids who drop out of school and spent most of their time looking for an excuse to brawl. (END AUDIO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, he didn't throw ice at anybody. And, of course, that's just one small part of the Democrats overwhelmingly blatant double standard. Bill Clinton, exhibit A, absolutely revered by almost everybody in the Democratic Party. They stood by his side, supported him, even after allegations of rape rolled in. There was Paula Jones, Kathleen Willie, Juanita Broaddrick. Democrats never claimed they had a right to be believed. None of them. How about an FBI investigation into Juanita? They never stood up for any of those victims despite corroborating and forensic evidence. Hillary Clinton even accused of trying to silence those victims, but, of course, she's now weighing in hypocritically on all of this. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Brett Kavanaugh said that the political hit job directed at him was being done on the half of the Clintons among other people. Your response? (LAUGHTER) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: I mean, really. Yes, it deserves a lot of laughter. I thought it was just part of the whole of his very defensive and unconvincing presentation. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Zero self-awareness. She really is the perfect representation of what is now a one-sided Democratic Party. There's no more moderates in the Democratic Party. It's a party now of smearing, slanders, lies, for searching besmirchment, character assassination, character bludgeoning, with a laughable, sad, double standard. And don't forget about the deputy chair of this party, the DNC, Keith Ellison. He's facing abuse allegations leveled by his ex-girlfriend, Karen Monahan, who's reportedly produced medical records, therapist notes, text messages and, apparently, she has recordings as well. But the left doesn't believe her. And, by the way, they are not standing by her side. Neither did the lawyer who cleared Ellison in the report to the state Democratic Party of Minnesota, a law firm donated 500 grand to the Democrats. Well, now, the police are looking into it tonight. And there's Senator Cory Booker, aka, Spartacus, 1992. Look at what he wrote in his own high school groping escapades. While the Senate Democrats demanded an FBI investigation into Kavanaugh's high school years, what about his misconduct? Now, we have also tonight Beto O'Rourke, he's the liberal hero running against Senator Ted Cruz in Texas. Tonight, he's facing a new scandal. Why? Over his theater review that he authored where he writes, quote: actresses whose only qualifications seem to be the phenomenally large breasts and tight buttocks. He has since apologized. Oh, I bet he did in a campaign year. And as you can imagine, Democratic leadership, they still support him all the way. It's no wonder he's best friends with Chuckie Schumer, who would love to welcome the very liberal O'Rourke to the Senate. Here's where we are tonight, as we speak, the Kavanaugh nomination remains in the balance. Senator Bob Corker is now predicting that Kavanaugh will be confirmed. I wouldn't be so sure. Look at your screen. Three senators will be the deciding votes on whether or not Judge Kavanaugh is confirmed. It's in their hands tonight. They will decide if due process matters. They will decide whether a man who lived an exemplary life will be destroyed with no evidence of corroboration and no perception of innocence. Will these senators be bullied by the left or will they do the right thing? Thirty-five days from tonight, five weeks from tonight, you get to weigh in. Hopefully, you will tune into the Fox News Channel. Every network will cover the midterm elections. This is now a choice between one party in America that is so power-hungry that they will destroy a man, destroy his wife, destroy his kids and family because of their thirst for power. This is a group of people who have tried to undermine the president, his agenda since day one. Reckless claims about Russia collusion. They offered no solutions to make your life better, the life of the forgotten men and women in this country. Five weeks from tonight, you will either see a giddy news media announcing Nancy Pelosi is the next speaker of the house, Maxine Waters as the chairman of a committee in a House, and Chuck Schumer will be the head of the Senate. He will be ecstatic at all of that. Or five weeks from tonight, you can again shock the world. And you can tune in and watch the media and the left in this country have a collective meltdown and they will once again go down in a stunning defeat. You get to decide five weeks from tonight. Joining us now with reaction, Senator Lindsey Graham. Senator, thank you. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Thank you. HANNITY: You've been -- you've been giving us updates every step of the way. What's the latest? GRAHAM: Well, the Kavanaugh bump is real. It's the biggest change in the 2018 midterms. In North Dakota, 60 to 28, he should be confirmed. Every race in this Trump red state held by Democrat, there's been a surge by Republicans. Why? Whether you are a Trump Republican, a libertarian, a vegetarian, McCain Republican, Romney Republican, Bush Republican, you're mad as hell because we're all united that this is unfair what they are doing to this good, decent man, cannot stand. So, the Republican of the year will be a Democrat, not a Republican. You've been able to do something, my friends on the other side, I could never do -- unite this party. And -- HANNITY: The anger is real. GRAHAM: Well, but to do what you have to destroy a good man, and the only way he stays destroyed if we buy into this crap. HANNITY: You know, every single solid -- GRAHAM: Putting him on the court is the only antidote. It's the only just -- HANNITY: You were a prosecutor. GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: When you see no corroboration -- GRAHAM: I don't prosecute. HANNITY: OK. You don't prosecute. GRAHAM: The law requires you to tell the accused where it happened, when it happened and to have corroboration that it did happen. My beef is not with Dr. Ford. I think she's been used and abused. My beef is with the Democratic Party who laid in wait, betrayed her trust, didn't tell her we would go to California. My beef is with the fact that they've done everything they can do to destroy his life. If you don't believe he's a gang- rapist, if you don't believe he's a sexual predator, if you don't believe he's a stumbling vomiting drunk, how about he doesn't have the temperament? This is the one that bothers me the most. He apologized to Amy Klobuchar for snapping at her. What would you do if you were accused of all these things, had your life ruined? Here's what I think -- Amy Klobuchar should apologize to Judge Kavanaugh and his family for being part of a smear campaign I haven't seen in over 20 years in politics. HANNITY: What about these red state Democrats? GRAHAM: I think they are toast. HANNITY: All of them? GRAHAM: All of them. HANNITY: All of them politically. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The only two that are open seemingly -- GRAHAM: No, they are toast if they vote no. And they should be. President Trump won these states promising to nominate conservative judges who are well qualified. This is a Bush guy. He worked for the Bush White House. He's as mainstream as you can get. He's been on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals for 12 years, glowing assessments of his credibility, his integrity before this hearing. Now, if you're going to reward people for destroying his life by questioning his temperament, then you are setting in motion the destruction of the judiciary. To any Republican who wants to question Kavanaugh's temperament, what you're doing is rewarding the people who were putting him in this box. HANNITY: Five weeks from tonight, the results will start flowing in. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: And you -- it went pretty viral, your comments on this program last night. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: And you said that if you fall one vote short, that this election five weeks from tonight should be a referendum, the president could renominate Kavanaugh with the new Senate and enough votes to confirm him. GRAHAM: It looks like the people decide whether or not their senator was right in voting no against this good man. Corker made an observation that we've got the votes and here's what I would say to Bob. I think you're right. We've got to wait on the FBI report. Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins really want to the FBI to validate the committee's work. They are just about done. I'm confident both of them, if there is no change, if the FBI learns nothing new about the Ford allegation or legitimacy to Ramirez, that they're going to vote for Kavanaugh because we've done everything within reason. And I hope Jeff Flake will also -- because he voted yes in committee and now he's talking about temperament and yearbook entries. To those who questioned the yearbook entries, just listen to what you are saying. You're going to decide this man's fate based on the yearbook entry. HANNITY: Tonight, look at ice-throwing, the senator from Hawaii. GRAHAM: The devil triangle, if you got a doubt what it really means, go back and talk to Judge Kavanaugh himself. Don't -- don't humiliate this man. HANNITY: Is the FBI -- there's one report tonight that they haven't talked to Dr. Ford. Is there a need to talk to her after she's been on the record? GRAHAM: The last thing Dr. Ford needs in my view is to go through the ringer again. She came forward to the committee. She couldn't tell us anything new in person. I think something really did happen to her, I am convinced it wasn't Brett Kavanaugh. If she was wrong about her best friend being at the party, what else was she wrong about? Her best friend says, you know, I'm not here to refute her claim, I'm just saying I've never met Brett Kavanaugh. How do you know you just had one beer and you can't remember anything else? HANNITY: Senator, you've been a force for fairness in this. GRAHAM: Tried to be. HANNITY: This shouldn't be Republican or Democrat. GRAHAM: Well, it sure is now. HANNITY: You voted -- GRAHAM: If you're a Republican, If you don't get what they are doing -- HANNITY: You voted for both of Obama's nominees. GRAHAM: Yes, I did. HANNITY: Republicans didn't act this way. GRAHAM: Yes, for a good reason. HANNITY: Senator, good to see you. Thank you for accommodating our audience. GRAHAM: He's going to get on the court. He's going to get on the court. HANNITY: OK, thank you. When we come back, we are going to unpack all the latest with Alan Dershowitz, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett as we continue from the swamp from Washington, D.C. HANNITY: So, over the weekend, Professor Alan Dershowitz, he tweeted, quote: Swetnick affidavit should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and her alleged witnesses, named in question. If perjured, there should be consequences. Here now with reaction, author of "The New York Times" bestseller, "The Russia Hoax", Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, author of another bestseller, "The Case Against Impeaching Trump", Harvard Law School professor, Alan Dershowitz, Fox News contributor Sara Carter in D.C. When you saw the interview that I don't think ever should have aired, Professor, and all of the backtracking, well, he was near the punch bowl, well, it wasn't a line -- she was claiming originally that there was systemic regular drugging and gang-raping of young girls and that she had attended ten of these events, but it happened almost every weekend she said. And nobody told a parent, a teacher or law enforcement 36 years ago. But it happened regularly. Then she backs off. What should happen? ALAN DERSHOWITZ, AUTHOR, "THE CASE AGAINST IMPEACHING TRUMP": Well, first, I'm glad that they ran the interview. I think it's an educational moment. I think the FBI ought to investigate every single one of her claims. And if it turns out, if it turns out that she made it up out of whole cloth, that she never met Kavanaugh, that she was several years older then, that she, along with others or by herself, simply made up a story, the FBI should conclude that, she should be tried for perjury and she should be sent to prison. This becomes a very important educational moment because when you have to teach the women of the world and the men of the world that there's no genetically linked aspect of telling the truth, that women make up stories out of whole cloth-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Duke Lacrosse, professor? DERSHOWITZ: -- about alleged events that never occurred and that's why it's so important. HANNITY: Duke Lacrosse, UVA? DERSHOWITZ: But look, we know this happened so many times. But this is an education moment. The world is watching. That's why she is the most important subject to the FBI investigation and concern that she's lying. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Professor, what about her inconsistencies. She backtracked spectacularly in this interview. She mentored four people to corroborate, one is dead, two didn't respond and one said I never heard of her. DERSHOWITZ: You're being generous to her when you say she backtracked. She swore under oath, subject to felony and perjury that certain things happened. She then said they didn't happen and she changed her view. Any good prosecutor, if the evidence shows that she made it up out of whole cloth, should be able to prosecute her and sentence her to prison. The problem is women who lie and falsely accuse men get away with it. They don't go to prison. HANNITY: Yes. DERSHOWITZ: And President Trump was absolutely right when he talked about how young men are vulnerable, young women are vulnerable. HANNITY: Scary. DERSHOWITZ: There's too much sexual assault but there's too many false accusations of sexual assault and the FBI must get to the bottom as so this is one such example. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Professor, I would even argue it's not fair. There is evil, there are predators, there are people that commit atrocities like rape and assault and drugging and it doesn't help the case of those women that are real victims. DERSHOWITZ: But even putting aside who it helps, the idea that a woman will get away with having made a willful decision to falsely accuse somebody of the most heinous crime gain-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What about the attorney, professor? DERSHOWITZ: Well, we have to ask that question. I've asked Avenatti to waive lawyer-client privilege so the FBI can ask her how did the story begin, did Avenatti help you? HANNITY: All right. Let me-- DERSHOWITZ: Did he make the story more elaborate. HANNITY: Wow. DERSHOWITZ: We got to get to the bottom of this. HANNITY: Gregg Jarrett, let me ask you the same question. And I will tell you this, I learned a lot when I was in Atlanta. I didn't rush to judgment of Richard Jewell, nor did I do it in Duke Lacrosse, nor did I do it in Ferguson or Baltimore-- GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Right. HANNITY: -- or Cambridge police or Treyvon Martin as others did. There's way too much rushing to judgment in this country, especially by my so- called colleagues in the media. JARRETT: I agree with the professor, Julie Swetnick would appear to be in legal jeopardy and here's why. Perjury is a material false statement that is willful and deliberate and purposeful. Her sworn statement is dramatically different than what she told NBC News. She would be well advised to fire Michael Avenatti, the publicity-seeking carnival barker and hire a real lawyer and she is going to need a good criminal defense attorney I predict because her story is completely disintegrating. And anybody else in this case, including any other accuser who made a false statement is also in legal jeopardy and it's probably a good idea that the FBI launched this investigation, because they will be looking into the truthfulness and credibility of these accusations. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We've never seen files follow up on these things but you're both right. Let me go to other new details. We have a letter from a boyfriend of Professor Ford. I witnessed Dr. Ford help McLean prepare for potential polygraph exam and Dr. Ford explained in detail what to expect, how polygraphs worked and helped McLean become familiar and less nervous about the exam. Dr. Ford was able to help because of her background in psychology, what do we take out of that? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: This is incredible, Sean. I agree 100 percent with Alan Dershowitz and with Gregg Jarrett. If they were lying we should not ignore this. If they find out they were caught in perjury, they should be prosecuted for this, because this is a man's life and his family that's at stake. Not only that, it discredits every other woman that's been through sexual assault. Anybody who-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me get this other issue. Let me ask you this, every single case from Professor Ford, she identified an eyewitness who does not agree with her allegation or account, the same thing, the story of Ms. Ramirez and the gaps in memory and inebriation, et cetera, and even the New York Times said she was asking people, I don't remember, but do you, was it him? I'm not sure. CARTER: Yes, they're calling people, she's calling people, Mrs. Ramirez. Was it him, could it be him? They are just throwing allegations out there. This is a disinformation campaign with one objective in mind, to destroy Judge Kavanaugh. And God bless him, if this is out -- if he is actually standing up for what he believes in and fighting this back, he needs to continue to fight this-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The acquisition will stay with him forever. CARTER: That's right. It will. But you know what, Sean-- (CROSSTALK) DERSHOWITZ: And the real-- CARTER: -- at this point in time he can fight this and the people will stand up and believing. We cannot walk away from this. HANNITY: Professor? DERSHOWITZ: But the real villain of this is the American Civil Liberties Union. On this board I served with honor for many years when it was the ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union instead of the ACLU, the anti- civil liberties union. They are now saying that suspicion is enough, that presumptions ought to be in favor of guilt. That if there is doubt, you convict. Imagine if they had said that during the McCarthy period. During the McCarthy period they never set when people were fired from their jobs, this is just a job interview, they required proof by a high standard. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Sara, it's terrible. DERSHOWITZ: But when it comes to this, they are making a fortune of money. Their budget has gone from 20 million to 130 million because they have abandoned civil liberties and have one campaign, get Trump, get his appointments, get his nominees. (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: But Sean-- HANNITY: Go ahead, Gregg. Real quick. JARRETT: Sean, the good news is the American public are not buying this. There's a new Harris Harvard poll out, 60 percent say Kavanaugh should be confirmed absent any corroborating evidence against him in so far there is none. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, there is none corroborating evidence-- JARRETT: Exactly. And that's what Americans says. HANNITY: -- which is (Inaudible)- (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: And 75 percent say Dianne Feinstein is to blame for this national disgrace for withholding information. HANNITY: Last word, Sara. DERSHOWITZ: Let's wait and see till all the evidence comes out. I want to keep an open mind if there are information that is disqualifying. And obviously-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: As of now there is no -- there is nothing. DERSHOWITZ: We have to look at the evidence. Follow the evidence not the polemics. HANNITY: Agreed, let's see it. CARTER: Absolutely and Americans aren't stupid, Sean. Americans know what's -- they know what's going on here. They are going to follow that. That's why we are seeing the polls the way they are and that's why people are going to go out to vote. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They will vote, indeed. CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: The American people usually get it right. I trust them. CARTER: We do. HANNITY: All right. Good to see you. Thank you all for being with us. When we come back, Dan Bongino, Steve Doocy, rare late-night appearance, Sean Spicer. They will weigh in on the media's effort to smear Judge Kavanaugh. Busy breaking news night, we are in Washington, D.C. We are glad you are with us. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I said the 2016 election may have been the greatest election of all time. There's never been anything like it. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: We had to fight the Democrats, but more difficult was fighting a very, very dishonest media. That was much more difficult. (CROWD BOOING) TRUMP: Fighting the media is tougher than fighting the Democrats, but they are equal partners. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. That was the president slamming the mainstream media bias and the collusion with the Democratic Party. Here now with reaction, the author of a brand-new book, "The Happy Cookbook," he is a good friend of mine now, from the beginning of our Fox days, we began our 23rd year, believe it or not, Fox and Friends co-host, Steve Doocy, number one cable show on the morning, and former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer, NRA TV contributor and former Secret Service agent, Dan Bongino. All right, Mr. Doocy. So, first of all, you put in your book my corned beef and cabbage recipe which is the best-- (CROSSTALK) STEVE DOOCY, FOX NEWS CO-HOST: Yes, it's on page -- it's on page 181. HANNITY: Yes, but why am I not on page three or one? Who do you -- let me guess, you put Brian and Ainsley first and me last. DOOCY: OK, calm down, please. You are in the corned beef and cabbage department. You can put that up in appetizers. Don't you know how-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The best food-- DOOCY: -- cookbooks work? HANNITY: I was a cook at 13 in a real restaurant pub. DOOCY: When Sean Hannity was 12 he worked at a dishwasher at the Norwood Inn in West Hempstead. He was making 2.25 an hour. The boss could see he was driven, he needed help on the grill, so he gave them a 50 cents raise and that's where he learned how to cook stuff. HANNITY: And true story. It's a long story but it's the best thing I ever did and I got not only 2.25 an hour, but two same poly grills at the end of the night. I walked home the happiest 12-year-old in the country. What do you make, Steve, look, we've been doing this a while. DOOCY: Yes. HANNITY: I've never seen it this bad and I've never seen a smear effort this bad. DOOCY: Well, you know, I watch your show and I know you have a lot of guests on who say that the media are out to get Donald Trump, but you look at the media landscape these days and the standards have just changed. I mean, I grew up working in newsrooms where if you had a bias against the person you are going to cover the boss wouldn't send you out on the story. But then you look at this story, the big headlines this morning in the New York Times was about back in 1985, Brett Kavanaugh was in a bar fight and then you read it-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He threw ice. DOOCY: He threw ice, exactly. Well, what did -- who did the New York Times assigned that story? A woman who back in July did a -- on Twitter revealed that she was anti-Kavanaugh. HANNITY: Unbelievable. DOOCY: And nonetheless they assigned her to do that, and then later in the day the New York Times said, you know what, we probably shouldn't have sent her. HANNITY: Yes, maybe. DOOCY: But it's just another one of those things. HANNITY: Sean, you, look, you had to deal with this. Sarah Sanders is now stuck in that job, I feel sorry for her, felt sorry for you at the time. It's never been this bad. SEAN SPICER, FORMER UNITED STATES WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: No. And it gets worse every day. I think Steve's point is exactly right. I mean, not just did they send a reporter in from the New York Times who had publicly stated her hatred and her animosity towards Brett Kavanaugh and conservatives in general, but then the New York Times afterwards said well, she might not have been the best person, we stand by it. I think NBC, the Washington Post, all these other stories -- they've lost all sense of objectivity to the point where for all of their talk about lying and truth telling and facts, the other day prior to the hearing, Andrea Mitchell on air talking about how many people helped Brett Kavanaugh prepare his testimony. What's the first thing Kavanaugh says coming out of the gate? Nobody helped me prepare this testimony. And yet-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I wrote it myself. SPICER: And yet -- I wrote it myself. No one has reviewed it. And yet, NBC News didn't say a word afterwards to correct that. So for all of their pious talk about caring about facts and the truth, they are so against this president. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They are full of it, Dan Bongino. DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: You know what, Sean, remember after the election, I know Sean Spicer remembers this when the New York Times of the Washington Post said, hey, we'll do better, we blew the 2016 election, now it seems their motto is how can we make this worse, right? Let me just say two quick examples here about their double standard. So they are claiming now that Kavanaugh doesn't have the temperament and that he's kept an angry right now, right? Remember when Eric Holder nearly challenged Louie Gohmert to a fight? He said, you don't want to go there, buddy. The media loved them, they thought it was great. And one more thing, Barack Obama himself, Sean, he wrote his book about hanging with the Choom Gang. What the hell is a Choom gang? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Did you saw what I played tonight? BONGINO: The Choom Gang. Yes, I've been listening to whole-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Steve Doocy is on, I could tell by his laughing. You've saw it, Steve, right? DOOCY: Yes. I'm good. By the way, there's a brownie waffle recipe in here that's just perfect. HANNITY: Listen, no, the only reason to buy the book is my corned beef and cabbage recipe. HANNITY: I was just going to say, look, I want to make sure we remind everyone that this confirmation is a serious issue. These charges are serious issues. Unfortunately, what the media has done has taken a serious confirmation and serious allegations and turn them into a complete circus. This is disgusting what is going on. And I think this is-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Horrible. SPICER: -- there's no -- there's a reason that the public continues to lose faith in the media. It's because you watch the president do stuff like NAFTA and all these other things. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I declared media dead in 2008. SPICER: I still have faith in the country. I believe that there are still good reporters out there-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. Congrats on your book. I know you keep on your book tour. SPICER: Thank you. HANNITY: Dan Bongino also. Steve, what page my own gain in your new book? DOOCY: One hundred eighty one. HANNITY: Yes, dump me in the back, put everybody else up there. (CROSSTALK) DOOCY: You are in the meat and potatoes department! HANNITY: Dump Hannity in the back of the book, corned beef and cabbage. (CROSSTALK) BONGINO: Brownies and cabbage is going to go vital. SPICER: My water recipe should be up there too, Doocy. HANNITY: Wait, wait, what was Brian and Ainsley's recipes? DOOCY: Ainsley did chicken divan and we are going to make that tomorrow on the show, mine was my mom's pot roast and Brian's was his mother's meatballs. All delicious. HANNITY: I can't believe Brian is off tonight. Brian works in the morning, he works at Outnumbered. He fills in for Trucker. All right. Congrats on the book, all of you guys, thank you for being with us. When we come back, why are Democrats -- why aren't they up in arms about Keith Ellison? When we come back, Ed Henry has a full report, that's next. HANNITY: Now with the latest on the accusations facing Minnesota A.G. candidate and of course the number two, the deputy DNC Chair Keith Ellison, Fox News chief national correspondent here in studio, good to see you. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Good to see you, Sean. HANNITY: Ed Henry, how are you? HENRY: Fantastic. And it's interesting because Democrats have dumped these unverified 36-year-old allegations about Judge Kavanaugh to try and block them from the high court. Yet, they have said very little about much more recent on the record, in some cases verifiable allegations of abuse by a sitting congressman. You mentioned number two at the DNC and running to be the top law- enforcement official in Minnesota. That state's Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate Karin Housley is demanding a new investigation by the state attorney general office into the allegations of domestic abuse that had been lodged against Keith Ellison, all of which he has vehemently denied. Interestingly, because Housley is taking on Democratic Senator Tina Smith. Remember she replaced Al Franken after he resigned amid sexual harassment allegations. Smith has lashed out at Kavanaugh flatly charged without evidence that he, quote, "committed sexual assault." Smith and Minnesota's other Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar have both been calling for swift probes of the charges against Kavanaugh but have been less aggressive about taking on Ellison. Nancy Pelosi has said the House ethics panel can take care of all of this. Now former Ellison girlfriend Karen Monahan has alleged he once drag off of the bed while shouting profanities, sent abusive texts and other -- engaged in other physical and emotional abuse and has also provided medical records and other documentation. Now the Democratic Party in Minnesota brought in a lawyer to investigate this. They say that lawyer was not able to substantiate the claims. Again, it was hired by the Democratic Party so it's raised questions about why Democrats have been so vocal in going after Kavanaugh but not going after one of their own camp. HANNITY: Well, we do have also Senator Grassley sending a letter to the attorneys for Professor Ford. They want therapy notes, they want any evidence of the polygraph-- HENRY: Yes. HANNITY: -- how it was administered, et cetera, et cetera. HENRY: Yes. By the way, Bob Corker tonight, not always a fan of the president he predicted to The Hill TV. HANNITY: He did. HENRY: That Kavanaugh will be confirmed. He says the Democrats-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: If you would have watched opening monologue you would have seen that. HENRY: I mean, you know, it was shorter tonight than usual. I like to tease you about that. HANNITY: Anyway, thank you, Ed Henry. Joining is now Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate for Minnesota, Karen Housley is with us. Karen, let's talk about Keith Ellison and the double standard. KAREN HOUSLEY, (R) SENATORIAL CANDIDATE, MINNESOTA: Yes. Thank you so much for having me, Sean. It is. It's the Democrats don't want to talk about this when it's allegations against somebody in their own party. They are using this hash tag Me Too movement to their advantage to get power and I'm running for the hash tag Me Too seat here in Minnesota, and my opponent Tina Smith continues to campaign with Keith Ellison because she says Keith Ellison has categorically denied these claims, therefore, you know, it must be true, so she continues to campaign with him. Yet, Brett Kavanaugh also categorically denied his allegations under oath. HANNITY: Karen? HOUSLEY: Yes? HANNITY: My question is-- (CROSSTALK) HOUSLEY: Yes, yes, yes. HANNITY: -- should there be an FBI investigation for Ellison? HOUSLEY: Well, you know. HANNITY: And if we are going to go back this far, Bill Clinton even? HOUSLEY: You know, absolutely, but again, you know, Democrats don't want one it's one of their own, didn't happen. But when it's one of ours, absolutely. Everybody jumps on it. And to use this for political power is absolutely disgusting and my Tine -- my opponent here in Minnesota, Tina Smith is doing just that, continually calling for a full investigation of Brett Kavanaugh and then Keith Ellison. I had to call the attorney general to do an investigation here in Minnesota, so let's hope it gets done and Keith Ellison is ousted for all Minnesota voters to see who he really is. HANNITY: Karen, you can win this race. I believe that -- this is now a game changing moment for the country and I wish you all the luck in your race there. Thank you for being with us. All right. We'll have more HANNITY as we continue from D.C. Straight ahead. HANNITY: Five weeks from tonight you are going to be watching television. If you want new speaker of the house Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Schumer, do you want this party of smear, slander, rush to judgment, no presumption of innocence, no due process, this is a very critical moment for this country. All right. We will always going to be fair and balanced and we are not the destroy-Trump media. And we will be back in D.C. tomorrow night for this big week. Let not your heart be troubled. She is in the next studio over, Laura Ingraham. Laura? 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McAllister Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: We are always going to be fair and balanced and we are not the destroy- Trump media. And we will be back in D.C. tomorrow night for this big week. Let not your heart be troubled. She is in the next studio over, Laura Ingraham. Laura. LAURA INGRAHAM FOX NEWS HOST: Are we still saying Ingraham? (Inaudible) how many people come up to me and say, will Sean -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I'm going over to your studio. Hang on, just wait for me. I'll be right there. Hang on one second. (Inaudible). INGRAHAM: Oh my god. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: -- walking into the next studio. INGRAHAM: Oh my gosh. You're not suppose to tell people. It's supposed to be a surprise. HANNITY: Well, this is a surprise walking. Well, this is how close I am to you. (CORSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Make sure the lighting is really shadowy. A shadowy figure. HANNITY: By the way, did you put it low on purpose? INGRAHAM: I wanted it really shadowy like a dark figure who enters through the -- so you're moving here, like, what's going on? I mean, have you gotten through your mail forwarded here? HANNITY: How about welcome to D.C.? It's great to see you. INGRAHAM: Well, I saw your sensei by the way walking around the makeup room. I took him down with one roundhouse kick. He's down like Jell-o in a pool. HANNITY: OK, he's not my sensei. Now, can I show everybody -- INGRAHAM: Oh, get out of my -- don't take my folders! HANNITY: No. You have your -- INGRAHAM: I went to law school! I have my folders, OK. I don't want you to disrupt my -- HANNITY: When I come to D.C., I don't get the big studio with a great background and the capital behind me. INGRAHAM: And so you want to be treated like the king of all media both in New York and in our humble low ceiling studio. It is a small studio but there are those who love it, OK, Hannity. HANNITY: Let me ask you a question because you are a lawyer. This is -- I am -- five weeks from tonight, results will be flying in. INGRAHAM: Oh yes, big night. HANNITY: I cannot believe that every single case has fallen apart, no corroboration and from day one -- I believe her without hearing even any evidence and now that it comes in, nobody is saying you know what, maybe we were rushed to judgment. Do they not care? INGRAHAM: No, they will never apologize. They never apologize. They just keep going and they look for other smears. But the smear machine, I'm going to talk about this in a moment with these two academics that are coming on, the smear machine has run dry. So now they are moving to oh, his temperament. He had 200 great opinions on the D.C. Circuit. He has no temperament issues. Ridiculous. HANNITY: How is one supposed to act if you are accused in high school of having drugged systematically women and had lines of boys ganging up to rape women. It is so slanderous without -- INGRAHAM: Yes, well we need to -- Trump was right today. We need to change the defamation laws in this country. HANNITY: I'm not taking over your show. I only get paid for an hour. INGRAHAM: OK, go talk to your sensei. Bye. HANNITY: All right, see you. INGRAHAM: All right, he's going to go out that door. HANNITY: I'm stuck. INGRAHAM: Oh, no, he can't get out. HANNITY: I can't get. INGRAHAM: And now he's going to sit there. Welcome to Washington, I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. At this hour, Fox News can report that the FBI's supplemental report on Judge Brett Kavanaugh could be delivered to the White House as soon as tomorrow. And this breaking just moments ago, Fox's John Roberts has obtained a letter from the Christine Ford's ex- boyfriend alleging she never told him of the alleged assault. Ford coached her friend on taking a polygraph and she flew frequently without ever expressing any fear of flying. Wow. We will break that all down with you in the latest with Joe diGenova, Andy McCarthy and a lot more. Plus, the anti- Trump and Kavanaugh forces have resorted to a number of increasingly hostile acts targeting lawmakers just over the past 24 hours. Senator Tom Cotton is here -- I think it's his first appearance on THE INGRAHAM ANGLE -- is here to react. But first, academic resistance to Kavanaugh, that's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. The left is moving in lockstep in their sleazy effort to obliterate not only the Supreme Court confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh, but the man himself. We've seen Soros funded activists confronting senators in elevators to stall Kavanaugh's confirmation, choreographed impromptu press conferences and rallies. Hollywood stars staging their tedious walkouts to urge the senate to vote against Kavanaugh. And now academia has engaged, so watch out. A provost distinguished professor at Georgetown University, her name is Carol Christine Fair, and she's acting everything but fair, tweeted this last weekend "Look at this chorus of entitled white men justifying a serial rapist arrogated entitlement. All of them deserve miserable deaths while feminist laugh as they take their last gasps. Bonus, we castrate their corpses and feed them to swine? Yes." So, no longer content to indoctrinate our children. Aacademic liberals like Fair are now advocating violence against conservatives. When she was exposed by CampusReform, the Professor Fair accused them of bullying her. Now, she's a damsel in distress. I thought they would take care of themselves. In a blog post she insisted, "My choice of words is intended to make you uncomfortable because I and tens of millions of women in this country aren't comfortable with the ongoing war on our bodies, our lives and our fundamental freedoms." So, help me out here. Men should have their genitals mutilated, then fed to animals to give her control over her body? (Inaudible) tell me how that work. Now, what's shocking though is that Georgetown is standing by this left- wing nut bag. Are these the Jesuit Catholic values the university is so proud of? Well they claim her comments were private and not the views of Georgetown. But this is a woman who on social media, has called Trump supporters (inaudible) get it, and Trumpanzees. Can you imagine if a conservative academic, if there are any, referred to Democratic politician supporters as simians or anyone for that matter as a monkey? Someone owes Roseann an apology. This dean, check it out, is a true lefty hater. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CAROL CHRISTINE FAIR, PROFESSOR, GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY: Trump, and I won't use the preface, president, what Trump has done largely under the influence of Israel has been everything it can to sabotage this Iran agreement. (END VIDEO CLIP INGRAHAM: We had to blur out some of those stickers on her laptop. She can't even keep those clean. And I'm sure Trump is losing sleep over the fact that she is not calling him President Trump. All right, but just as a comparison, a Catholic university, also in D.C., Dean Will Rainford had the nerve to question Christine Ford's credibility on twitter. He wrote "Swetnick is 55 years old, Kavanaugh is 52 years old, since when do senior girls hang out with freshman boys? If it happened when Kavanaugh was a senior, Swetnick was an adult drinking with, and by her admission, having sex with underage boys. In another universe he would be the victim and she's a perp. Well, for that completely kind of fact-based opinion, the Dean Rainford was suspended by Catholic U for the semester and forced to write an apology, and he didn't even threaten anybody's life, OK. By the way, a suspension wasn't good enough, yesterday angry protesters stormed the university demanding that the dean resign. Liberals have infested every corner of university's from the classroom to the administration building, we know that by now. And emboldened, they operate according to their own resistance rulebook. At least 20 Yale University professors shut down classes last week I guess so that law students could protest Kavanaugh's hearing both in D.C. and on campus. Students wore black and staged sit-ins. How original. Undergrads later marched across campus to express their outrage. Now, remember, Kavanaugh is a Yale alum, so this is particularly pathetic. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's very emotional during her opening statement and to be confronted with -- the first thing that Senator Grassley said was he feels equally for Brett Kavanaugh, her alleged perpetrator as he feels for Dr. Ford, who has received death threats. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And she feels like unable to be safe even in her own home and really wants there to be an extra way for people to exit, I find that to be really striking. This happened to her decades ago and she's still feeling the real effects of it today. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: $75,000 a year for tuition at Yale University. And at Harvard University, yesterday associate dean Catherine Claypool announced that Brett Kavanaugh will no longer be teaching a course that he's taught in the past at the school. Claypool claims that Kavanaugh "can no longer commit to his course on the Supreme Court." No wonder. This is the university that last year, months after Trump's election, hosted a resistance school featuring leftist activists and agitators. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The origin of the resistance school lies in the election on November 8th of 2016 of the 45th president of the United States. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Like so many of you, my friends and I woke up on November 9th just devastated. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Schools are places for intellectual exchange, for social transformation and yes, when necessary for political resisitance.. Schools are places for intellectual exchange, for social transformation and yes, when necessary, for political resistance. INGRAHAM: $80,000 of your, what is it at Harvard? True to form, students and alumni have been urging Harvard Law School to rescind Kavanaugh's teaching appointment since the Christine Ford allegations leaked. Hundreds of graduates signed a petition demanding that Harvard cut ties with Kavanaugh. In other words, the mob got their way. For Yale and Harvard, and even dean unFair, who we talked about earlier,, you know, what happened to this principle of innocent until proven guilty? I thought the liberals really believed in that. That's totally out the window. Given the shaky state of these accusations against Kavanaugh and the daily erosion of the credibility of the accusers, why are law schools of all places rushing to judgment against their own alumnus without any substantiating evidence or witnesses? It's amazing. If they really wanted to teach their law students an important lesson, it might be this. Put your political prejudice aside, exercise a bit of restraint and withhold judgment until all the evidence and the facts are in. Oh, and justice should still be blind, not political. And that's the ANGLE. Joining me now is Allan Lichtman from American University and Jamil Jaffer from George Mason. Allan, great to have you both here. This liberal professor is literally calling for violence against Republican senators. Your thoughts on this, and the university is back in her. Would they do the same thing if a conservative or kind of middle-of-the-road Republican professor were advocating violence against any minority group? ALLAN LICHTMAN, POFESSOR OF HISTORY, AMERICA UNIVERSITY: I can only speak for myself and my university. I've been teaching for 45 years at American University. Nobody but nobody has ever advocated violence against anyone. INGRAHAM: So what do you think of this professor? It's like a code you can't comment on other professors? LICHTMAN: Well, I don't think anyone should be advocating violence but I'm astonished to hear you talk about the need for facts and truth in the age of Donald Trump. We have a president who is documented to have issued over 4,000 lives. INGRAHAM: Documented by whom? LICHTMAN: Documented by "The Washington Post." INGRAHAM: OK. OK. LICHTMAN: It has to be wrong because it isn't a right winger. You just told us. You got to respect -- let me finish. INGRAHAM: Allan, but no, we know that you're -- LICHTMAN: You spoke for five minutes. INGRAHAM: Right. Like when you have the Lichtman Angle you can speak for as long as you want. LICHTMAN: So then why are you having me here if you won't let me speak. INGRAHAM: Don't play that game. I'm trying to direct the conversation as we do have limited time. LICHTMAN: Oh, you don't want to hear about Donald Trump's lies, of course not. INGRAHAM: The conversation is about why on college campuses is there such a monolith against Donald Trump. How many conservative professors at American University? Name three. LICHTMAN: We do not put litmus tests on our professors. I do not ask -- INGRAHAM: You can't name because you know there aren't any. LICHTMAN: That's nonsense. I do not ask for the politics -- you put politics on professors. We don't at American University. INGRAHAM: OK. LICHTMAN: I teach a course in American conservatism. I wrote a book on American conservatism. INGRAHAM: So you don't think it matters. LICHTMAN: I've had thousands upon thousands of students over 45 years, not a single complaint. And let me say, when you were talking about the case for the accusers falling apart, what about how Brett Kavanaugh has fallen apart in the age of truth? INGRAHAM: Do you think you can lose your job at AU if you have one allegation against you that's not substantiated, should you lose it? LICHTMAN: I think it should be investigated and checked. INGRAHAM: Should you lose deanship if one person makes an allegation. LICHTMAN: Mitch McConnell said he's going to plow through without any investigation. LICHTMAN: You'd be outraged if this were happening to a liberal justice like Sotomayor. LICHTMAN: This is not what's happening to Brett Kavanaugh. INGRAHAM: You would be outraged and there would be torches at AU across the circle and they would say how could you do this to Sotomayor? LICHTMAN: You have no idea what you're talking about. INGRAHAM: Yes I do. I used to live about a block from AU and I ran at the track every day. LICHTMAN: OK, so you know all about American University. INGRAHAM: I do. I met a lot of great students. They have a lot of great students. LICHTMAN: This is the age of facts, right wing facts. You happen to live near the American University. I've taught there for 45 years, but you know more about American University. INGRAHAM: Because you teach doesn't mean that you necessarily think because you said that Donald Trump is an autocrat. Have you not said that on multiple occasions? LICHTMAN: Absolutely. INGRAHAM: OK, with that you lose all credibility in saying that. LICHTMAN: Because you don't believe that? INGRAHAM: Because it's ridiculous. Did you live in the former Soviet Union? LICHTMAN: Let me defend it. INGRAHAM: I did. Go ahead Jamil. (CROSSTALK) LICHTMAN: He fell in love with Kim Jong-un, the most brutal dictator on the planet. INGRAHAM: Doing this doesn't make your point. He fell in love with him now he did a deal just like a lot of presidents. LICHTMAN: There's no deal. INGRAHAM: Really. LICHTMAN: There's no deal. INGRAHAM: Have we ever done a deal with Saudi Arabia? Ever done a deal with Saudi Arabia? You know we have. Go ahead. LICHTMAN: None. It's a figment. INGRAHAM: Go ahead. JAMIL JAFFER, ADJUNCT LAW PROFESSOR, GEORGE MASON UNIVERSITY: Well look, Laura. I mean, look, just because you have the right to say something doesn't mean you should, right. This professor is out there, she doesn't have a concern with what's going on the Hill with Judge Kavanaugh and that's fine. She's allowed to have her concerns. Talking about people being murdered, being castrated, you know, people always talk about the tone in Washington and the tone in the country and all these beast. They have to point the finger at the president, so that's correctly, for changing the tone in the country. And yet here we are and it's hard -- you can't be critical of Professor Fair because she's allowed to use that tone. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: I think that we have a situation on campus. I want to focus on that, where conservative students do feel like they are under siege. And I know Allan you have written some really fascinating stuff and you are a really good professor and this is not any type of criticism of your particular teaching, but this is an interesting piece written just a couple months ago, just this spring of this year by Brad Schober who is the president of Loyola (inaudible) College Republican. He said, and he's a senior so he could write this for the Baltimore Sun. He said, "I have witnessed professors to go out of their way to attack Donald Trump or even conservatives as a whole. And I'm sure these professors will justify their actions as educating students on issues, however these attacks, which are often very illogical or hypocritical take students, even those who dislike President Trump and push them off to the political right. The school is more than willing to invite speakers who have been given leadership awards by the former General Secretary of Soviet Union and to give the 2018 commencement speaker spot to a man who said he would've killed Trump had he been in the room when he was born, and yet to my knowledge have not brought in a single conservative speaker in my four years here." That's really sad for students. JAFFER: I mean it's terrible, OK. I can tell you on campus at UCLA back in 1990 when I graduated, I was called a sellout to my race, to my religion because I happen to be conservative. I happen to talk about my politics on campus. I have made a fraternity and I was attacked and I was told that I was in the wrong and I wasn't allowed to speak on campus because I didn't have that sort of view that the other -- people expected me to be a liberal because I'm a minority. LICHTMAN: Let me respond to this. You know, conservatives have such outrage, and justifiably when someone speaks hatefully or violently, and yet I have yet to see conservatives outraged over what the extreme right has been doing in this country. Let me finish. JAFFER: I'm outraged. Let me tell you, I'm outraged. LICHTMAN: What are you outraged about? JAFFER: I'm outraged when the alt-right goes out there and attacks people and criticizes them. I'm completely outraged. But don't tell me -- don't tell me that my outrage isn't justified or that I didn't experience what I experienced. LICHTMAN: I never said that. JAFFER: OK. LICHTMAN: So don't put words in my mouth. Let me finish. JAFFER: Let's talk about that. INGRAHAM: Real quick guys. LICHTMAN: I didn't interrupt you. I didn't interrupt you. And the other way -- there's a study that I was about to site by the Cato Institute, not a left-wing group, which says over 25 years, the amount of murders committed by right wing terrorists is seven times higher than that by left- wing terrorists. Why do I hear nothing from you about that? Moreover, there was a course at San Diego State University using my book, the case for impeachment, and the right wanted to silence me, wanted to silence my book. INGRAHAM: I would never want to silence you. LICHTMAN: It was all over Fox News. All over the right. INGRAHAM: But I would say Allan, if you're going to come on-- LICHTMAN: -- allowed to speak. INGRAHAM: If you're going to come on this show and claim that liberals don't have enough platforms in the United States, they dominate academia, you couldn't name one conservative professor, they dominate entertainment industry, let me finish. They dominate the entertainment industry, they dominate most churches in the United States. And even when Trump is here they don't want to defeat him in the substance. They want to defeat him as a person. It's not about Kavanaugh as a judge. It's about Kavanaugh as a person. LICHTMAN: You area totally wrong about that. You read my books. You know my books are all about the substance. All about the facts. INGRAHAM: Right. Well, I'm not talking about your textbooks. It's great to promote textbooks. LICHTMAN: And my teachings is all about -- INGRAHAM: Look, but you are one person. LICHTMAN: We academics search for truths. INGRAHAM: You know what happens on campuses and you just don't have credibility -- LICHTMAN: -- about what happens on campuses. You call out these isolated examples -- INGRAHAM: You think Berkeley, what they did to conservatives at Berkeley is fair? Are you kidding me? LICHTMAN: What they did at San Diego State wasn't fair either. You pull out these isolated examples. INGRAHAM: It's not an isolated example. How many conservative speak -- (CROSSTALK) JAFFER: I know you don't check the politics of your faculty, fine. LICHTMAN: Of course not. You shouldn't. JAFFER: But be honest about what campus politics looks like. Be honest about faculty politics. We've all been there. We've all seen it. The reality is that the vast majority of American University -- LICHTMAN: You know why, because we have merit based hiring -- INGRAHAM: Is that it? LICHTMAN: That's it! INGRAHAM: That's it. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Do you know what it is? Conservative need not apply. It's self selective. It's self-selective. It's like who wants to go -- LICHTMAN: Conservatives who hired us. When I got hired academia was conservative. INGRAHAM: When you talk (inaudible) pipe down, pipe down. This is my classroom. When people call Trump supporters not deplorable's, but trumpanzees and trumptards, this is the kind of stuff that's just commonplace on campus. Commonplace. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: It's so sad for the students because it's better. I was at Dartmouth. I got a lot of liberal professors who were good friends. We had a blast debating issues, it was so much fun. That's what campus is all about, exchange of real ideas. LICHTMAN: You and I agree with that. INGRAHAM: OK. Let's end on that. LICHTMAN: But when we have a president who calls the press the enemies of the people, disgusting and worse. INGRAHAM: Trump is an autocrat, we get it. We get it. We get it. We are not talking about the topic but it was a really fun conversation. You're both great and it was good to have you on. Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton is here when we return. A lot more to get to on THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. Huge news night, other developments on the Christine Ford front, we will get to all of it, stay there. INGRAHAM: The last 24 hours have revealed what can happen when activists turn aggressive. Representative Andy Harris of Maryland was harassed at his congressional office by two pro pot activists. I thought they were supposed to be calm because of pot. Mitch McConnell was harassed at Reagan National Airport by the same Soros-funded group that cornered poor old Jeff Flake in the congressional elevator. And suspicious packages were sent to the Pentagon, Senator Ted Cruz's Texas campaign office and the White House. So where is all this leading? To answer that, we're joined by Senator Tom Cotton. Senator, thanks so much for being here. You've been very vocal about this Kavanaugh circus. So how is this political division, the acrimony, now this aggression over the nomination fueled some of these perhaps increasingly dangerous situations? SEN. TOM COTTON (R), ARKANSAS: Well, Laura, the Democrats will stop at nothing to defeat Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court. They are not doing that because of the allegations they've trotted out over the last two weeks. They are doing it because they don't want to have a conservative majority on the Supreme Court and that's why you've seen some of the most outlandish wild out claims rolled out, with immediate demands that he withdraw. He's not withdrawing, where voting on him. Everybody will have to put their cards on the table for God and country later this week. Brett Kavanaugh will be confirmed because the more we learn, I suspect the FBI investigation will simply corroborate this. His denials are the things that are supported by evidence, not the allegations against him. INGRAHAM: Senator, the security in the Senate seems to me to be a bit of an issue when you can have people -- clearly this is all orchestrated and planned. They had the cameras already to go and they work for Soros Center for Democracy, co-executive director was the who was shouting most in the beginning. They corner Flake and Flake is like melting and he was like he needs a pair of Depends or something. He doesn't know how to deal with like two women yelling at him. And he's like no, no, don't -- and it's screaming at him and I don't know if they stood in the elevator, but they couldn't get out - - he was like stuck in the elevator. Is this now going to incentivize other such organized protesters to do the same thing? And then they get their moment of viral shame? COTTON: Well, you are right, a lot of these protesters are professional left-wing activists at D.C. community organizing groups or even Democratic staffers. They are yelling and screaming in the hallways, or stalking senators not just in the Senate but at airports and even to their homes. The young staffers in Susan Collins offices have received death threats and rape threats. They walk around disrupting business in the Senate. This is a result in part of the kind of wild eyed radical claims that Democrats have made about Brett Kavanaugh from the very beginning. And remember Laura, it wasn't that long ago when a madman, a former Bernie Sanders supporters showed up at a baseball field in Alexandria to commit mass murder against congressional Republicans. Thankfully, Capitol Hill police officers were there because Steve Scalise police were present and they were able to neutralize the threat but not before Steve Scalise were badly wounded and still walks on crutches to this day because of it. So I think some of our Democratic colleagues need to reconsider their rhetoric and the kinds of incentives that they are giving to people that frankly are a little bit around the bend. INGRAHAM: Senator, three takeaways from Christine Ford's ex-boyfriend, and again, it's an ex-boyfriend so you have to take it with a grain of salt -- obtained by Fox News tonight. Blasey Ford helped prepare a friend to take a polygraph test. She fancies herself something of an expert in polygraphs but she had that history. Apparently she had no fear of flying in small airplanes, a number of trips that he was I guess on with her or aware of and she had no aversion to tight or closed spaces. She claimed that she had become claustrophobic because of this event 36 years ago. There were other comments of a sexual nature that I'd rather not get into, but he was never told about her assault in any way, shape, or form and anyway, I don't want to talk about more of the sexual stuff but there is that out there as well. COTTON: Yes Laura, so I haven't seen that letter, I only heard your reporting on it earlier. I will say this. I assume the FBI will consider that matter. I also assume the FBI will seek the therapist notes that Ms. Ford cited as corroborating evidence from 2012. Nobody has seen those yet, she refused to turn them over to the Senate Judiciary Committee. What little we do know comes from "Washington Post" reporting. If anything, it is exculpatory for Brett Kavanaugh. It corroborates his account and creates internal inconsistencies in Ms. Ford's account. So, I hope the FBI has had a chance to review those therapist notes as part of their supplemental background check. INGRAHAM: Senator, your predictio, will he get confirmed? COTTON: Brett Kavanaugh will be confirmed to the Supreme Court later this week. It will be a majority. I hope it is a bipartisan majority. I hope many of the senators last week that went over the top in their rhetoric will reconsider what they said. Recognize that even though they lost the election, even though a Republican president is appointing a justice of his choice and being confirmed by a Republican majority Senate, that they need for the long-term health of the Senate and the Supreme Court to reconsider their rhetoric about the legitimacy of this process. If anything, Chuck Grassley, Mitch McConnell, Donald Trump have bent over backwards to be transparent and provide all the information that's necessary to prove that Brett Kavanaugh is both highly qualified and that there is no corroboration or proof for any of the allegations against him. INGRAHAM: Senator Tom Cotton, thanks so much for being with us tonight. And Kavanaugh's accusers and their enablers in the media seem to be having trouble finding one story and sticking to it. First Kavanaugh was a groper, then he was a flasher and then all of a sudden he was a serial gang-rapist or drop quaaludes in the punch bowl. When those stories couldn't stand on their own, Kavanaugh became a partisan hack and a belligerent drunk. And did you know he actually threw some cubes of the cold stuff on someone in a 1985 bar fight? That makes him cooler. Sorry. A lot of people are like, that's cool. And now they claim he perjured himself, which is completely false. Here to debate the evolving narrative is Joe diGenova, former U.S. attorney, and Scott Bolden, National Bar Association PAC president. Joe, let me start with you. Is this anything other than a craven attempt by the Democrats to hold onto the seat? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: Clearly that's what it is. The performance by the Democrats on the committee during the hearing and in their public discourse has been rather shameful, but it really doesn't matter to them because it's all about power. I thought that Judge Kavanaugh conducted himself brilliantly during the hearings and in his statement that he gave, which some of the Democratic senators objected to, where he became angry and I think legitimately so after having been accused of being a serial rapist, in order to protect his own name and that of his wife and his children. I think it was perfectly justifiable. I give them an A-plus for his performance. I give the Senate Democrats on the committee a disgraceful F. And it's all about power for them. They lost the election. As Barack Obama said, elections have consequences. We won, you lost, get over it. INGRAHAM: Scott? SCOTT BOLDEN, NATIONAL BAR ASSOCIATION PAC PRESIDENT: Wow. I feel just the opposite. I would give Kavanaugh and F and I would give the Democrats at least a B, but maybe an A in regard to how thoughtful they were after the partisan attack. You put that list up there talking about what he was accused of. He's never been accused of being a serial rapist by Ford, and if he was a partisan hack, he was a partisan hack in his testimony, I've never seen it, I don't know if anybody else has ever seen a nominee go after the Democrats and the Clintons out of the blue simply because there is a young woman who says when she was 15 he attacked her. Now, what does that have to do with Democratic politics? They didn't go round up two or three attackers and say, hey, just say these things. To argue that is to suggest that they are lying. And that's the problem with the GOP, that they are not seeking the truth. They just want Kavanaugh to get on the bench. Whether he's qualified or not, whether he is a belligerent drunk or not, or whether he attacked these three women. And whether he lied about it or not and whether his temperament is not what it should be because of this presentation. Those are the reactions -- INGRAHAM: If the sloppy or belligerent drunk standard is going to be now operative in this town we are going to shut down a lot of trade associations, Senate offices, House offices, and law offices. We'll get to that. We'll get to more. We have a lot more to get to. While the Democrats obsess over what they claim are inconsistencies in Kavanaugh's testimony, what about the shifting stories from his accusers? One senator is calling for a criminal referral over Julie Swetnick's contradictions. Andy McCarthy will also join these two, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RICHARD VINNECCY, EX-BOYFRIEND OF JULIE SWETNICK: Right after I broke up with here, she basically called me many times, and at one point she basically said you will never, ever see your unborn child alive, and I'm just going to go over there and I'm going to kill you guys. INGRAHAM: Did she mention ever having been sexually assaulted? VINNECCY: Never. Never once she mentioned that to me. And we used to talk about, just about everything, and she never once mentioned that at all. I really don't believe her. No one knows better -- nobody knows Julie Swetnick better than me. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was the ex-boyfriend of Kavanaugh accuser Julie Swetnick laying out the case for why she is an unreliable witness. That was of course following her disastrous interview with NBC that included inconsistencies with her sworn affidavit at almost every turn. Now Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy is calling for a criminal referral over what he says is a signed false affidavit sent to the Senate by her attorney Michael Avenatti. FOX News contributor and former U.S. attorney Andy McCarthy joins us to discuss. Also back with us Joe diGenova and Scott Bolden. Andy, as these allegations continue to unravel, is there any recourse that Kavanaugh or the Senate may have against some of these accusers? ANDY MCCARTHY, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: I think, Laura, this being more importantly than anything else, a political process, if this gives them some steam behind them to get this thing to a vote and get him confirmed, that would be the best thing that could happen. They could certainly refer these matters to the FBI and the Justice Department and ask them to be investigated. They could ask not only to have these statements investigated, but to find out whether she was put up to this, to make the kind of statements that she made and make the kind of case that she made. But I would think the most important thing here, the imperative is to get this process done and to get this guy voted on. INGRAHAM: The new allegations against Christine Ford, to all of you, include that she coached at least one person on a polygraph, and a number of other inconsistencies about her statement. And he said she never mentioned this assault to him and other things about her sexual history which I don't really want to get into. I'm not going to be that full screen. BOLDEN: So what? So what? So what that she was inconsistent with the affidavit. That's not going to get her prosecuted or investigated. So what she has a boyfriend who has an ax to grind who says they talked about everything. INGRAHAM: What does he get out of it? BOLDEN: I don't know what he gets out of it. Maybe he should be investigated for why he's not on TV as a boyfriend, not a husband, who said they talked about everything. Are you kidding me? INGRAHAM: OK, so what you are saying is someone can accuse an individual for a big job with impunity with an allegation, unsubstantiated, you sign an affidavit, then you go on and give interviews because you are all heady and have a head full of steam. Then you have inconsistencies and it should be oh, no, big deal. No big deal. Is there intent? If there's intent to deceive -- DIGENOVA: I think that what Andy said is important to follow up on. Let's remember what this is. This is a confirmation process for the United States Supreme Court. At this has thrown out allegations which she has sworn under penalty of perjury are true and submitted it to the committee doing the confirmation. When this is over and he is confirmed, Chairman Grassley should refer that to the Justice Department for a federal grand jury, and she should be given a chance to come before that grand jury and explain herself. There's a reason for that. You have to make people understand that you can't send false information to a United States Senate committee in the middle of a process that is important to our constitutional system. She should be investigated, Miss Swetnick should be investigated, and if necessary charged with the crime of submitting a false statement to the Senate. We have to do that to protect the system. INGRAHAM: Andy, my source tonight tells me that the Mark Judge interview which went on for several hours went very well. It was extremely thorough, and the FBI seemed fairly pleased with his cooperation. That's all I know, but that's a very reliable source. What about that? Do you need to make people pay for dragging the country through this? And it's lying to a government body. MCCARTHY: I think number one you absolutely have to do that if you have evidence that people lied, because what happened here should never happen, and I think a lot of what happened here is about the in terrorem effect of what was done not only to Kavanaugh, but to people around Kavanaugh. I think what they're trying to do is make an example of him. And what has to be made is a counterexample that if you pervert a process like this, if you provide false information to a Senate committee, as Joe said, you need to be prosecuted. And I would go a step further and say if there were people behind you who put you up to it, they need to be investigated as well. INGRAHAM: That means donors, any emails that have been deleted or texts that have been deleted. People you've consulted with. MCCARTHY: Lawyers. INGRAHAM: Lawyers. Lawyers who are not acting as lawyers but as activists. That attorney-client privilege would melt away pretty fast if it's a crime. We all know that. We're out of time, guys. So sorry. I would love to have you on the whole hour. BOLDEN: Disagreement doesn't mean you can prove they are lying. INGRAHAM: Well, you can't lie -- MCCARTHY: That's why they call it an investigation. That's why God made grand jury's. BOLDEN: Exactly. That's why we're investigating Kavanaugh. INGRAHAM: Senate Democrats are feeling the heat from both sides now -- this is a fun panel -- as Kavanaugh accusations have begun to backfire. Ed Henry has a live report, new details, next. INGRAHAM: As poll numbers coming from West Virginia and North Dakota, Senate Democrats are feeling the political pressure to vote for Kavanaugh. For more we are joined by FOX News chief national correspondent Ed Henry. Ed? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Laura, great to see you. The breaking news tonight, as you noted, is that we are hearing the FBI could give this final report to the White House as soon as tomorrow. That may explain why the Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell told colleagues expect this report soon. You'll have a couple days to review it, and then he's planning an up or down vote by the end of this week. Also new tonight, Dr. Ford's legal team wrote to the FBI demanding she get to talk. We're hearing, though, from law enforcement sources that she may not be called in by the FBI because she's already spoken to the Senate Judiciary Committee, and so they can rely on those hours of sworn testimony. They will only reach out to her if something is corroborated. Absent that, McConnell is moving forward with a vote on Kavanaugh which led Democratic leader Chuck Schumer to lash out today, complaining this is moving too fast, which may have something to do with the fact that Democrats are nervous about how this is playing out in some close Senate races. Heidi Heitkamp, who is undecided in North Dakota, now trailing her Republican opponent, listen to this, by 10 points. In a poll by the conservative Judicial Crisis Network found 56 percent of North Dakotans want Kavanaugh confirmed. In West Virginia, Democrat Joe Manchin has to deal with the fact that the same conservative poll found 58 percent of voters in his state want a "yes" on Kavanaugh. Pay attention to New Jersey where Republican Bob Hugin has pulled to within two points of Democrat Bob Menendez. The Republican had announced his support for Kavanaugh. He pulled it back after the initial allegations. Now says he's going to wait for a final decision when the FBI probe ends. So everyone is focused on undecided Republicans like Collins, Flake, Murkowski, but there are some Democrats tonight who are very much on the griddle as well, Laura. INGRAHAM: Thank you so much, Ed. And joining us live from New York city is Bob Hugin. He's here to tell us about his race against incumbent Senator Bob Menendez. Remember, he was indicted on a number of charges, a lot of ethical issues continue to hang over Menendez. But Bob, I appreciate you joining us. How much weight do you think this Kavanaugh fight could impact the midterms and even blue states like yours in New Jersey? BOB HUGIN, (R) NEW JERSEY SENATE CANDIDATE: Laura, first of all, great to be with you tonight. This is exciting times in New Jersey. I think people are paying close attention to this. They want a process that's fair, not one that has embarrassed us all. So I think we are really hopeful we will get to the bottom of this. I think the FBI investigation is important that we get all the information. But once we get that information it's time to come to judgment and make a decision for the American people. INGRAHAM: Now, the poll, I guess there's this Stockton University poll that's fairly reputable, has the race with Senator Menendez at just a two- point deficit for you. A lot of people are shocked by that, but people who I know who have been following you in Jersey aren't shocked about it at all because Menendez has like a 54 percent unfavorability rating, and still all the stuff going on with what happened with the indictment, and then of course the Senate ethics committee and what they said about his behavior. It's sort of funny to hear him talking about Kavanaugh with everything that he has had his hands on. HUGIN: It's so embarrassing. Laura, we've been over 400 campaign stops already, events, meeting with New Jerseyans of every location in our state. They want change. They are embarrassed by this guy. He violated federal law, abused the power of his office, disgraced the Senate, embarrassed us all in New Jersey. And on top of that, 25 years in Washington, with years as a Democratic president, and New Jersey is dead last? We have the least back from Washington of any state. The people of New Jersey realize we can do so much better. The people of New Jersey deserve so much better. We are going to do better. Put the people of New Jersey first, starting in January. So it's really exciting to be in New Jersey. Every day we get more and more positive feedback. Democrats endorsing us. They know people deserve better, and we are going to give them better. INGRAHAM: New Jersey is always the butt of everybody's jokes, but that's usually from people who haven't spent a lot of time in New Jersey. It's a beautiful state, but it has some really bad leadership, ridiculously high taxes. I love Chris Christie. I know some people don't like him, but I like him. But ridiculously high taxes. And I think that the McConnell super PAC should be putting money into this race. It's a toss-up now. And this is a race that Republicans can win. So don't just focus on the races that have gotten all the publicity. Bob, we really appreciate your joining us. We will have you on the radio soon. Great to see you tonight. HUGIN: Great to be with you, Laura. Thanks so much. INGRAHAM: Congrats on narrowing that pole with Menendez, that's exciting. What does the Kavanaugh saga tell us about how men will face accusations going forward? Should we be worried as a society, mothers, sisters, wives? An important conversation ahead. INGRAHAM: The uncorroborated charges against Brett Kavanaugh raise another issue. What effect will this have on American men in our country's long tradition of due process? Something President Trump addressed from his rally tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We better start as a country getting smart and getting tough and not letting that stuff, right back there all of those cameras, tell us how to live our lives. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Fake news. We have the worst libel laws anywhere in the world. They can say anything they want, and we can't sue them because if you're famous you can't sue. Figure that one out. Think of your son. Think of your husband. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Here with a reaction is D.C. McAllister, a political commenter and a senior contributor for "The Federalist." D.C., you say that this notion of believe women has a proper place depending on the context. And you heard the president tonight talking about men and sons and brothers and fathers, obviously referencing those who are wrongly accused. He is getting hit really hard on social media for, I guess, attacking Ford's account as unreliable and saying this. Your reaction tonight? D.C. MCALLISTER, SENIOR CONTRIBUTOR, "THE FEDERALIST": When you take a stance that we need to believe women, then you are automatically saying that the men are guilty, the men are lying, the men are the ones who are at fault. And we just can't do that because we have a presumption of innocence in the society. You just can't go ahead and say because he is a man that he is guilty. This is a problem with the "I believe the women" crowd is that you just can't do this. And Trump is right, I know they are attacking him for what he is doing and what he is saying. He is defending the democratic ideals, the democratic principles that we have in our society. And if we don't have those, if we are not defending the presumption of innocence in our society, than what do we have? We don't have security. The men are not secure. Our fathers aren't secure. No one is. INGRAHAM: This is another little taste of what the president said tonight about the credibility of Dr. Ford. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: How did you get home? I don't remember. How'd you get there? I don't remember. Where is the place? I don't remember. How many years ago was it? I don't know. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: I don't know. I don't know. What neighborhood was it in? I don't know. Where's the house? I don't know. Upstairs, downstairs, where was it? I don't know. But I had one beer. That's the only thing I remember. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Did he do that off the cuff, because that was really funny. I'm sorry. D.C., close it out. MCALLISTER: Yes, there is no corroborating evidence. We can't just believe someone just because they say it. There's a time to believe women when they come to you and they are in your personal sphere, but when they show up at the last minute with these political processes going on, this is not the time just to believe a woman no matter what she is saying. We have to go through the process. We have to believe the evidence that is before our eyes not just trust them when at the last minute it is going to affect our political processes and our democracy in the long term. INGRAHAM: D.C. McAllister, thank you so much for joining us tonight. And coming up, could Trump and Kaepernick hold a summit? It won't be a beer summit, Trump doesn't drink. Kanye West thinks it's possible. The last bite, next. INGRAHAM: It is time for the last bite. Now, first it was his MAGA hat, and now Kanye West is trying on his own diplomatic hat. He told TMZ that he wants to bring President Trump and Colin Kaepernick together for a peace summit at the White House. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KANYE WEST, MUSICAL ARTIST: I've been calling Colin this morning, reaching him so I can bring Colin to the White House we can remove - statement, and we can be on the same page. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Trump would definitely show up, I think. But would Kaepernick? Maybe he'd take a knee. I hope not. That would be fun if he should show up. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team take it from here. 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By the way, you could to be a guest on my show coming up later tonight. I give you time to breathe and collect yourself after a great show. Good show tonight. Congrats on the new book, by the way. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Thank you, Sean. Thank you. HANNITY: All right. Tucker, thank you. Welcome to HANNITY. I am not overstating you this. This is literally now a tipping point in American history. Democrats and the media, they have no shame. Zero restraint, zero concern for truth, zero concern for innocent lives, and they are all too willing to destroy, all for political power. That's more important than what is truth and justice. Now, we have one party in this country, it's about smears, slander, besmirchment, bludgeoning, and the media in this country, they are the willing accomplices and we've got the evidence tonight. They're using every dirty trick in the book to run out the clock on Judge Kavanaugh's nomination. Last week, they got their wish. The FBI performing a background check into allegations against Judge Kavanaugh, his seventh background check. But already, they have moved to the goalpost, almost instantaneously. They want more investigations. Longer investigations and guess what? There are no testing out a brand-new accusations in the mainstream media. What they are forgetting here is that this is a real man's life. A real family, real kids, for them, it's just a political game, a quest for power and attempt to wait it out for 36 days until the all important midterm elections. We're going to break all of this down with all the information you need including a report from the independent prosecutor who questioned both Kavanaugh and Professor Ford. She is calling the allegations weak, uncorroborated. We also have a message tonight for Dianne Feinstein, whose dirty tricks are now being investigated. And as per usual, disgraced former FBI director, James Comey, he is trying to weigh in from the sidelines and once again siding with all of his friends in the Democratic Party and a brand-new NBC interview, an unmitigated disaster on so many levels. So, said tight, buckle up, it's time for our D.C. opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. If you are the average American that works hard, plays by the rules, pays their taxes, raises their kids and serves the country every day, providing goods and services, good Americans need to step back tonight. This isn't about Republican, Democrat, or liberal at all. With no due process, zero corroborating evidence, the left in America is now smearing an individual and they been doing it now for 15 consecutive days -- calling him evil, accusing him of being a serial rapist, a sexual predator, a violent drunk, a liar, a perjurer, and much more -- classic character assassination of a man who has served his country and has been in the spotlight for 40 years without a single whiff of misconduct until 15 days ago. As we Americans now, we better get this as a country right because the collective rush to judgment, getting rid of all the presumption of innocence and due process, it is a clear and present danger to all of you, to every American. And tonight, at a huge rally in Johnson City, Tennessee, President Trump stood up for his Supreme Court nominee, and the pillar of what is America's justice system, the presumption of innocence. Let's watch the president. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Democrats are willing to do anything to hurt anyone to get their way, like they are doing with Judge Kavanaugh. (BOOS) They have been trying to destroy him since the very first second he was announced because they know that Judge Kavanaugh will follow the constitution as written. And he is a good man, great student, great intellect, never had a problem. All of a sudden, oh, let's go back to high school, maybe they should go before high school. And then they want to take a lot longer with the FBI. No, the FBI, they should take -- by the way, if we took ten years, they would want more time. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So, here we are, day 15, the Democrats are attempting to stop Judge Kavanaugh at all costs, at a wild press conference earlier today, the president let loose, had this to say about the important process that the media and Democrats -- they are trying to now upend. This is dangerous. But he took it on. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: I want the FBI -- this is now their seventh investigation. So, it's not like they are just starting. I want them to do a very comprehensive investigation, whatever that means according to the senators and Republicans and the Republican majority. I want them to do that. And the reason I would like to go quickly, very simple, it's so simple, because it's unfair to him at this point. What his wife is going through, what his beautiful children are going through, is not describable. It's not describable. It's not fair. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, of course, Kavanaugh's vote was once again delayed last week because the left successfully coerced one notoriously flaky Republican, senator, to go along with their demands. A new background check into the allegations made by Professor Christine Ford, limited in scope, only a week. This weekend, Senator Jeff Flake sat down with one of his Democratic colleagues on "60 Minutes" to pat himself on the back for his heroic stance. He was out running for president in Massachusetts earlier today, but he did admit in the interview, if he was seeking reelection, he never would have done this, ever, and caved to the Democratic demands. He is now their hero. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INTERVIEWER: You've announced you are not running for reelection and I wonder, could you have done this if you are running for reelection? SEN. JEFF FLAKE (R), ARIZONA: No, not a chance. INTERVIEWER: Not a chance? FLAKE: No, no. INTERVIEWER: Because politics has become too sharp, too partisan? FLAKE: There is no value to reaching across the aisle. There is no currency for that anymore. There is no incentive. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I just lie like I always did. Now, tonight, the FBI's background check unto Professor Ford, these are all important facts we've got to remember. It is well underway. But Rachel Mitchell, remember the independent prosecutor hired by the Senate Judiciary Committee to question both Professor Ford and Judge Kavanaugh, well, she's already released her report to the Senate Judiciary Committee. In these findings, they are devastating, this is what she says. A he said, she said case is incredibly difficult to prove but this case is even weaker than that. Dr. Ford identified other witnesses to the event and those witnesses either refuted her allegations are failed to cooperate them. Now, for the reasons discussed below, I do not think any reasonable prosecutor would bring this case based on the evidence before the committee. And the prosecutor went on to list multiple issues where Professor Ford's accusations, including no consistent account of when the alleged assault actually happened, a failure to previously identified Judge Kavanaugh as the assailant, inconsistent descriptions of the alleged assault, a failure to remember key details including who invited Ford to the party, how she got to the party, where the party even took place, and how she got home from the party. She does however remember unrelated details like the consumption of exactly one beer and that she took no medication that day. Another issue listed by prosecutors surrounds the fact that Ford's allegations have been corroborated by nobody, including a lifelong friend. And Dr. Ford also struggled to recall recent events related to her accusation, including the date of a polygraph test. Now, there are also inconsistencies with Ford's psychological trauma claims, including her alleged fear of flying. That despite the fact that she flies frequently and many of her hobbies involve flying all over the world. And Rachel Mitchell also reported, the activities of congressional Democrats and Dr. Ford's attorneys likely affected Dr. Ford's account. It is important to remember that Senator Feinstein -- this is where we get into facts matter. Corroboration matters. She mentioned these four people, none of them corroborated her story, including an alleged eyewitness to the incident. And Dianne Feinstein played politics with Professor Ford's very serious claims from the very beginning. She knew about this in July. And last week, Senate Democrats demanding an FBI investigation, but Feinstein and her colleagues have known about this, as I said, since July, where is their calls for an investigation into Keith Ellison? Or for that matter, Juanita Broaddrick and Bill Clinton? Why didn't Senator Feinstein ask Kavanaugh about these allegations when they met personally, while -- at the very same time she's advising Professor Ford on what attorney to hire? Instead of contacting her with a qualified, experienced, nonpartisan lawyer, well, Feinstein suggested what turns out to be a partisan left- winger, big time Democratic donor named Debra Katz, once proclaimed on national TV she would resist President Trump. She dismissed Paula Jones -- oh, it was only 10 to 12 minutes. Excuse me. He exposed himself, Bill Clinton, at the time. That was the allegation. And then she defended creepy Senator Al Franken. And according to a report from "The Washington Free Bacon" tonight, one of Katz's close friends is now searching for anyone willing to come forward against Kavanaugh, they are sending out emails to people, literally soliciting people as late as last week. Now, if Feinstein cared about getting to the truth, why suggest a Democratic hack that's inconsistent on one is a serious issue today? And meanwhile, even though Professor Ford requested her name remain private, it was leaked, because congressional Democrats were the only officials with access to her story and Senate Republicans are a now vowing, rightly so, to investigate Dianne Feinstein and the Democrats' handling of this case. Of course, Senator Feinstein is denying any responsibility for the leak but earlier today, president Trump called out the senator for her shameless political tactics and they were shameless. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Dianne Feinstein knew about those two months earlier. If she wanted a really thorough investigation, we had all the time in the world. She didn't have to wait until after the hearing was closed, essentially. She should have said, listen, I have a problem. I have this report. I'd like the FBI to look at it while we are doing the hearings. We have two months. For the Democrats to be talking about, we want more time for the FBI, if you wanted more time for the FBI, why didn't Dianne Feinstein bring this up? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Why didn't she? America deserves an answer to that question. And why didn't she tell her Republican colleagues, say, oh, we need time, we can rush this? We have plenty of time. And Democrats are continuing their political stall tactic. Last week, it was a narrow investigation, limited to only a week. Now, despite President Trump ordering the FBI to investigate any and all legitimate claims, it's still not enough for the left. They want FBI investigations into every single claim made against Kavanaugh no matter how unsubstantiated and some are even calling for investigations into whether or not Kavanaugh lied about how much you drink in high school. He said sometimes he drank a lot, like a lot of kids in high school and college. Now, that's called moving the goalpost, that's called changing the game in the middle of it. And as we've been saying for months, they want to stall the nomination, they want the midterm elections. These facts all matter because 36 days, you, we, the people, if you want to put these people in power, they want to impeach the president, endless investigation, they want their crumbs back, they want open borders, they want to keep Obamacare. And, of course, if the FBI does extend the investigation of the second and third accuser, well, we already know about the second accuser and we find again unsubstantiated claims from a woman who is claiming that Kavanaugh may have exposed himself to her at her drunken college party when he was a college freshman. She doesn't really remember. In fact, she said she wasn't totally sure if Kavanaugh was the perpetrator. She called around, according to "The New York Times", to see if they remember the incident, whether it was him, they did not. She even acknowledges that she has significant memory gaps from that evening. "The New York Times" refused to report the story because of the lack of evidence. And, of course, there is the third accuser, here name is Julie Swetnick. In this case, the FBI is likely to find a lot of inconsistencies from her wild allegations. Remember, she is claiming Kavanaugh was involved in the serial drugging and gang rape scheme and the '80s that happen almost every weekend. And she went to attend these parties. And today, Swetnick represented by the all famous seeking attorney, Michael Avenatti, the new face of the Democratic Party, sat down with NBC news in what turned out for NBC by the end of the day to be a disaster. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REPORTER: In that statement, Swetnick said she became aware of efforts by Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge to spiked punch at parties. In our interview, she said she saw them near the punch but did not specifically say she saw either men spike it. Did you see Brett Kavanaugh, you know, spiking the punch? Putting -- JULIE SWETNICK, KAVANAUGH ACCUSER: I saw him giving red solo cups to quite a few girls during that time. I saw him around the punch -- I wouldn't say bowl, or the punch containers. I don't know what he did but I saw him by them. REPORTER: Are there friends who remember these parties, too, and remember you -- SWETNICK: I think everybody in the county remembers these parties. REPORTER: Because we haven't heard from those friends. So, I'm asking, you know, are there people alive today who you say yes, I went to those parties with you? SWETNICK: Yes, there are people that know about these parties. REPORTER: This morning, Swetnick provided four names of friends that went to parties with her. One of them said he does not recall a Julie Swetnick. Another of the friends she named his deceased. We've reached out to the other two and haven't heard back. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Still, zero corroboration. The same NBC News that sat on that interview with Juanita Broaddrick when she was making rape allegations about Bill Clinton, they refused to air it for over a month all because they said it couldn't be corroborated. They needed time to vet at. NBC should -- this is a disgrace. This is not news. This is them letting an individual make uncorroborated claims and then just airing it. Here they are running totally unverified, uncorroborated claims against Judge Kavanaugh and multiple inconsistencies yet again. Are there any new standards over there? Should we at all be surprised? This is now an unmitigated disaster for NBC News. By the way, Tom Brokaw, if you are watching, if somebody calls you in three minutes, would you air this? You need to speak out publicly. You spend your whole life trying to build that brand. All three of these stories do have one thing in common: zero corroborating evidence, outright denials of so-called witnesses and many inconsistencies. After all, this is how your mainstream media is now treating the ongoing Supreme Court battle. This weekend, a cartoonist drew this vile depiction of Judge Kavanaugh's young daughter praying for her, quote, angry, lying, alcoholic father for sexually assaulting Dr. Ford. Never made it into a newspaper. The cartoonist published it online on his own. Did not return our request for comment, shocking. And then there's the media darling James Comey. He, of course is calling for an unlimited time frame for FBI investigations and bashing anybody did -- get this -- you won't sit down with FBI investigators. Writing, quote, most people will speak to the FBI, refusal to do so is it some kind of statement. And I'm thinking, really? Asked General Flynn and George Papadopoulos about speaking to the FBI, that literally worked out perfect for them. In the case of even General Flynn, they didn't think he lied. He was charged with lying. Now, when you see all of these antique Kavanaugh offense and people like Jim Comey asking for more information, when you see people rushing to judgment, when you see Democrats demanding more and more investigations, you've got to remember this one clear point and this is what matters tonight, this is all about politics. It's now about power. It's not about the truth. Democrats have been against Kavanaugh publicly from the day he was announced. No matter what this investigation finds, they're never going to vote for him anyway, they never were. It's likely every single important event in modern history. This is a matter that we better get right. If you don't have evidence, and you are going to rush to judgment, and you're going to have zero presumption of innocence, by the way, this is not the first time. Ferguson, Missouri, Richard Jewell, Baltimore, Maryland, Cambridge police, Duke lacrosse, UVA rape allegations, now Judge Kavanaugh, Clarence Thomas? We have a party of smear, slander, lies, and no due process, none. This shouldn't be political. And all their left-wing friends in the mainstream media, the deep state, are backing them up, all along the way. There is no life they are not willing to destroy for power, no reputation they won't defile, no process they want corrupt at this point, no issue they won't politicize. And that means there is no shame. Their actions are literally, as we speak, reprehensible, and we've got a lot to get to tonight. He's been in the forefront of all of this, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. Senator, welcome. It's good to be back in your hometown. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Speaking of reprehensible, here's Lindsey. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: I didn't mean that all. GRAHAM: No. HANNITY: To me, this is serious. You made a deal on Friday. What was the deal Friday? GRAHAM: OK, so here's the deal -- Senator Flake voted yes in the committee with the understanding that he would like the FBI to interview the three Ford witnesses that were interviewed by the Republicans on the committee, Democrats wouldn't help us. It's P.J., Ms. Leland, Leland, what's her last -- HANNITY: Her best friend. GRAHAM: Yes, and Mark Judge. Let's see, Lisa Murkowski said I'd like the FBI to kind of check the committee's homework and we also agreed to interview Ms. Ramirez, the allegation not printed by the "New York Times". HANNITY: That was "The New Yorker." GRAHAM: A week, once the FBI has done their interviews, they send it back to the Senate, and if they want further interviews, they'll sit down with Senator McConnell and see what we can work out. So, we have a deal for a week, we limited the interviews to three people, named by Dr. Ford, and Ms. Ramirez, and we'll see what the FBI finds. HANNITY: And is now been expanded out, by the way. The president said -- GRAHAM: No, it's not. That this is a request by the Senate. So, we're -- nobody asked to do Ms. Swetnick. HANNITY: Ramirez, yes. GRAHAM: Ramirez, yes. HANNITY: Ramirez, yes, Swetnick. GRAHAM: No, nobody asked for that. Not one Democrat asked for that. The senators in question did not feel that was necessary. It's an accusation on its face that makes no sense. So let me go over it again. The Dr. Ford witnesses, Mark Judge, Leland, and P.J., right? HANNITY: Right. GRAHAM: And Ms. Ramirez. That's it. Do it within a week. Report back to the Senate, and we'll move forward. HANNITY: NBC News ran this interview. Not only was one person -- the other person said they never heard of her. She literally changed the story, including -- remember, she was saying that there were systematically almost every weekend, those were her words -- GRAHAM: I can take care of this in 30 seconds. HANNITY: Yes. GRAHAM: What reasonable person would go to a party, witness drugging of women, gang raping of women and go back nine more times -- HANNITY: And boys lined up. GRAHAM: Yes. And go back nine more times and never tell anybody. HANNITY: And tonight, she said, I didn't see that he put the drugs in the punch but he was near the punch. Why does NBC run this? GRAHAM: Well NBC -- here's the biggest offense to me. They have been a co-conspirator in the destruction of Kavanaugh from my point of view. There was an anonymous letter received by Cory Gardner, the senator from Colorado, with no return address, no information, just the letter, accusing Brett Kavanaugh of assaulting somebody in a restaurant in 1998 in Colorado. HANNITY: Right. GRAHAM: Cory handed to the committee. Somebody on the Democratic side leaked that letter, it got on the "NBC Nightly News," the fourth allegation. Do you think they would have done that -- HANNITY: There's a fifth in Rhode Island. That was debunked also. GRAHAM: Do you think NBC would have gone that if it had been a Democratic male nominee? HANNITY: What if it was Tom Brokaw? GRAHAM: All I can say is that their journalistic integrity has been destroyed over this. HANNITY: All right. GRAHAM: Regarding this case. HANNITY: It's a very tight margin in the Senate. And you've got Jeff Flake, who knows what you think is going to be do. Let's be honest. And then who knows what Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins. Let me ask this. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: You fall one vote short -- GRAHAM: OK, number one, I don't think we will and let me tell you why. I don't think we're going to find anything new from the supplemental FBI investigation to take Jeff from yes to no. I think Senator Lisa Murkowski and Senator Collins want to make sure that the FBI did their homework to check the committee's work, that, you know, our work was good. I think that is what this is all about. No more, not expanding it to all this crazy stuff. Now what would happen if something really weird that occur and we are one vote short? Here is what I would tell the president. I would appeal the verdict of the Senate to the ballot box. This good man should not be destroyed if you legitimize this process by one vote short, we will be onto the next person. I'd hate to be the next person nominated. I would f feel horrible that we destroyed Kavanaugh. So, what would I do? I would renominate him and I would take this case to the American people and I would ask voters in Indiana and Missouri and North Dakota and other places where Trump won, saying who he would nominate if you got to be president, and see if voters want to appeal the verdict of their senators. HANNITY: So, if -- you say, if you fall one vote short, you are saying -- GRAHAM: I would appeal the case to the American people. HANNITY: For this election in 36 days? GRAHAM: I would tell -- HANNITY: And he president should renominate? GRAHAM: It's up to the president. But one, you would be legitimizing the destruction of a horrible person -- I mean, a horrible process and a good person. You'd be legitimizing the worst tactics, I think. HANNITY: Wow. So, in other words -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: -- the American people's referendum. This would be a referendum. GRAHAM: This would be an appeal from a political body to the people who put us here and see if these Trump states that elected President Trump could do exactly what he is doing, on cutting taxes, and putting conservative judges, if they are OK with the decision of their senator. I don't think we're going to get there. I think we are going to get 50 plus. But if we fell one vote short, for the good of the nation, I would appeal this to the people of the country and to let them have a say. HANNITY: Senator, thank you for being with us. Appreciate it. GRAHAM: Thank you. HANNITY: Michelle Malkin, David Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, a lot more. straight ahead from D.C., the swamp. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with reaction to all the days' breaking news and much more, the host of "Michelle Malkin Investigates," CRTV, Michelle Malkin. The author -- by the way, a brand-new book, and I'm going to be releasing on foxnews.com my review of this book, because David Limbaugh has so inspired me and my life. I am a baby compared to him in terms of the knowledge. "Jesus is Risen: Paul and the Early Church." It's out tomorrow. My friend David Limbaugh, yes, he has done legal work for me like everybody else because I'm in a lot of legal trouble all the time apparently. Let me start, David, with you, and I break down in every single case here, there is no corroboration. We watched Julie Swetnick tonight literally reverse herself on key details that she made in a statement that her lawyer released last week. The same thing with Ms. Ramirez, we have problems with her story. We read all of the inconsistencies of Professor Ford's story, and again, no corroboration there. Are we getting rid of due process and presumption of innocence now? DAVID LIMBAUGH, "JESUS IS RISEN" AUTHOR: Well, obviously, this isn't a criminal proceeding, where those guarantees are attached. But as Jonathan Turley said, they still apply by analogy. It's a tradition in this country that people who are accused of these kinds of activities should get a presumption of innocence and the accuser should have to produce evidence or credible evidence. Nobody is denying -- well, some people are denying -- I don't deny the sincerity of Dr. Ford but it seems like she is troubled. And there are some inconsistencies in her testimony. I'm not even -- my quarrel isn't with Dr. Ford, who I believe is in good faith. My quarrel is with the Democrats who are lying in wait to ambush any nominee who is a constitutionalist because they want judges on the Supreme Court, justices, who will legislate their political liberal agenda. And it's horrendous. They have no moral or ethical standing. And so my real thrust here is for feckless conservatives, feckless Republicans to, naive Republicans, accommodating Republicans to realize why President Trump is so popular and it is because a feckless conservatism isn't impotent conservatism. We are in existential war our struggle or whatever you want to call it, for the future of this country and the Democrats are relentlessly pursuing their agenda. They will do anything they can to thwart President Trump's appointments. This idea that they are doing this to find the facts is just ridiculous. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, let me-- LIMBAUGH: Go ahead. HANNITY: Let me bring in Michelle. The problem here is guilt by accusation. I've been very critical this, Michelle at times, and you have been of the Republican Party. But honestly they took this with the proper seriousness that this topic deserves. They were very professional as they should have been with Professor Ford. But this, if she identifies an eye witness and the eyewitness contradicts what she says, that is just problematic. Without saying anything about her personally at all we cannot assume that people are guilty knowing that this is a tactic that is used in Supreme Court nominations and in political campaigns, often by people that don't care about the truth. MICHELLE MALKIN, HOST, CRTV: The radical and extreme left, particularly radical feminists exploit the fact that Republicans act in good faith. LIMBAUGH: Yes. MALKIN: And we have to stop tiptoeing around this. Timing, matter, motives and manner all are important in judging the credibility and the strength of these kinds of accusations. Every day in America, innocent men of all races, backgrounds, socioeconomic status are falsely accused of sexual assault and rape and they can never ever get their names back. Many of them have been successful in getting themselves exonerated after being falsely convicted. It takes five, 10, 15 years. And whatever civil settlements that they can finally win after losing their freedom and losing their lives and reputations, it can never compensate for the loss, the devastating loss-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But we have the-- MALKIN: -- that they and their family suffer. And so that is why, rape of course is a very serious crime but so is lying about it. And until there is criminal liability for it this is going to keep happening over and over again, Sean. HANNITY: In every case there are inconsistencies. Every case there is no corroboration to the people that they say where there which happened again on NBC News tonight. MALKIN: Yes. HANNITY: Let me ask you both this, Lindsey Graham I think had a pretty good idea. I think he was really suggesting tonight that if the Democrats if Republicans fall short here. And Flake, or Collins, or Murkowski go with the Democrats, he is basically saying, let the American people vote on this very topic and basically let President Trump re-nominate, if you will, Judge Brett Kavanaugh and the it becomes a referendum. David, do you like that idea? I like this. LIMBAUGH: Possibly, I do like it. But it depends on what this prolonged investigation adduces. Now what if he appoints someone else. If he really gets taken out and he appoint someone else, I'm telling you they'll attack him, it's like blood to a shark. It will be a feeding frenzy, they will be encouraged by this ambush. And they will do it again. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: we'll never get good people. LIMBAUGH: They are not in good faith. Yes. And like Michelle said-- HANNITY: In the government. Michelle, we'll give -- yes. (CROSSTALK) LIMBAUGH: -- they're not in good faith. Yes. MALKIN: This is an existential crisis and every time that voters have a chance to weigh in on it at the ballot box they absolutely should do that. Because it could happen to you next and we don't draw the line right now, it's going to embolden the social justice mob, not just to go after high profile Supreme Court nominees but your father, your grandfather, your uncle, your son. HANNITY: No corroboration, inconsistencies, very troubling. No due process, no presumption of innocence, this is scary. All right. Thank you both for being with us. David, I'm going to put up tomorrow on my Foxnews.com article your new book. It's amazing, that's one short word. When we come back, the latest on the FBI investigation. Ed Henry is studio with us. Newt Gingrich joins us from our nation's capital as we continue. Yes, we are right here in the middle of the sewer where it is all happening. We're glad you're with us. HANNITY: All right. So where the things stand with the FBI in the background checks this hour with Judge Kavanaugh. Joining us now with more, Fox News chief national correspondent, Ed Henry. Well, I thought you are in the studio but you have your own studio, I see. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Yes. We are separate, Hannity. Here's the bottom line. President Trump is pushing back today on what he essentially calling fake news. The idea that there are various reports over the weekend that he is restricting the FBI probe of Judge Kavanaugh. He said absolutely not. That the FBI is moving quickly and intensively and he is staying out of the way. In fact, they started their work Friday after the Senate compromised and the president says they work through the weekend. In fact, we learned a short time ago that Kavanaugh friends Mark Judge has already talk to the FBI, though his lawyer says they have not completed that. He is going to talk some more. Remember, he has already said he doesn't remember anything about Dr. Ford's allegations. The Senate deal by Republican Jeff Flake and Democrat Chris Coons led to a one-week pause so they could focus on what is called current and credible allegations like the charge from Dr. Ford. Not nuance with a deadline for the FBI this upcoming Friday. But Coons cracked the door open to expanding this, saying he cannot control new allegations. Sure enough other unverified charges have been popping up. Tonight a Washington Post story quoting a former Yale classmate saying that Kavanaugh was a violent drunk. The White House tonight releasing a long statement from two of his classmates, saying that it is grossly untrue. Republican Mitch McConnell charge the Democrats are trying to move the goalpost beyond Friday so that they can keep investigating Kavanaugh. Sure enough, Democrat Richard Blumenthal suggests they should go on longer. He falsely charged that the White House is micromanaging the FBI probe. So the president at the Rose Garden news conference fired back. He said that's not true. He said, he'll do what the Senate wants in terms of this playing out. And he ripped into Blumenthal by nothing he lied about his service in Vietnam. Sean? HANNITY: All right. Ed Henry in Washington. Joining us now with reaction, he is the author of the New York Times bestseller, "Trumps America: The Truth About Our Nation's Great Comeback," former Speaker of the House, Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich. In every case, you have inconsistencies now tonight it was glaring in this Avenatti client of his. No corroboration from the very people that they said would corroborate. NEWT GINGRICH, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. Kavanaugh-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: that's a problem. GINGRICH: I will take you off for 30 seconds away from this. All of us should recognize in the last 24 hours President Trump has won an enormous victory with Canada and Mexico in the middle of all this noise. HANNITY: That's a good point. GINGRICH: Big things are happening to create a lot of new jobs, to keep the economy going. Because the president is delivering and he is getting results. I just want to do that-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Now it's not insignificant. Honestly, this to me is a real threat. GINGRICH: Yes. HANNITY: It's one of the foundational principles that we share, all of us. This is why I say it's not Republican or Democrat. GINGRICH: Here's what I don't understand, OK. And you know, I've had this in a long time. HANNITY: Not a little bit. GINGRICH: They talk about this deal that Coons made. Coons gave up nothing. I mean, Republican sometimes have this passion for being stupid. Flake got nothing out of Coons, nothing. So Coons plays this game. We're really bipartisan. Let me see I can rip you off again. And Republicans on the vote, would you please rip me off a little bit because I feel so much better when you take advantage of me? I mean, people, there is a reason people get fed up with the stuff. Lindsey Graham while you had on a while ago is the most effective guy on the judiciary committee. He told the truth. And I think we as the American people have to stand up and say they don't want a country that is dominated by these kinds of people. I think it's a really serious threat. HANNITY: What did you think of Lindsey's idea that if they fall both short, there should be a referendum election then on this issue? (CROSSTALK) GINGRICH: I think it's a good idea. HANNITY: But the American people, and the president would re-nominate maybe perhaps. GINGRICH: I think it's a good reason. The Alabama senator who supposedly not a liberal, does come out and he is going to vote with the left. You have Donnelly representing the vice president's home state is going to vote with the left. You probably going to have Heitkamp in the state which Republicans have carried 16 out of the last 17 presidential campaigns. She is probably going to vote with the left. And you had Tester in the state we carried 15 out of 17. HANNITY: You mention Manchin. GINGRICH: Well, I think Manchin is going to vote for Kavanaugh. HANNITY: Well, it is-- (CROSSTALK) GINGRICH: I tell you what, if Manchin doesn't vote for Kavanaugh, they definitely should bring Kavanaugh back up because after the election, Manchin will have disappeared. HANNITY: Yes. You know, one of the problems we've gotten too use to, and I bring this. I warn this audience, my radio audience every two or three years. Racist, sexist, misogynist-- GINGRICH: Sure. HANNITY: -- homophobes, xenophobes, Islamophobes, dirtier water killed children and killed grandma. GINGRICH: Right. HANNITY: They're all over the clip. I watched you go through this. I was there. I saw it all. But there is a certain embracing of slander now where it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter whose family is hearing this. It doesn't matter what they are saying. GINGRICH: Well, they score points with their crazed friends. The more vicious you are the more your friends celebrate you. The nasty you are the more your friends celebrate you. I mean, that's what people are saying. We are in a moment, this election is called is about two Americas. It's about in America that thinks bullying you in a restaurant, bullying you in an elevator, harassing you, destroying you, smearing you, shaming you in front of your children is fine because they are morally pure. HANNITY: So, I see I never hear a single positive agenda item that's going to benefit the American people from the Democrats. This is what I hear, they want to impeach Trump, they want endless investigations, they want to keep Obamacare which has been a disaster. GINGRICH: Sure. HANNITY: They want to get rid of ICE and open borders. And they want the crumbs back. They want the tax cuts back that they call crumbs. But these crumbs they want them back. How do Republicans defeat history in the sense that it's only happened three times in the last 100 years. The party gets the power in the White House. And then win seats or hold on to power in the midterms. GINGRICH: Well, the same reason same way we won in '16. We get more votes where it matters. And the objective fact is, I'm going to go out on a limb, I did this within '16, and I'm going to go out on a limb here. I think election night this year will be worse for liberals than 2016. I think there's going to be a shock. The Democratic Party now, for example, Gavin Newsome, the candidate for governor in California wants to have government run health care to pay for health care for illegal immigrants. HANNITY: Ten million. GINGRICH: Think about it. HANNITY: Illegal immigrant. GINGRICH: That's this year. HANNITY: Yes. GINGRICH: But when the workers out across the planet go to California and get free healthcare, how many people every person get sick on the planet is going to be told get to California they want to take care of you. I don't that, I think those kinds of policies are so unsustainable. HANNITY: Bob Menendez is in 2.10 (Ph) in New Jersey. GINGRICH: By the way, the most important recent indicator is to lead me it doesn't want to look at is we want a seat in south Texas. We have not had it 139 years, it's 53 percent Hispanic and the minute they learn that the Democrats favor tax paid abortions, they just left. They said we're not with you. HANNITY: If this doesn't awaken the base of the conservative movement, Republican Party, Trump supporters, I don't know what will. GINGRICH: But it is waking them I think. I had a friend that said to me today, they have never seen as many conservatives as angry as they are now. Because it's when you look at Kavanaugh and you look at his two daughters and you look his wife and you think, these bad human beings--. HANNITY: Thirty sends-- GINGRICH: -- are willing to do this because of his family. HANNITY: Without any corroboration at all. GINGRICH: Right. HANNITY: Scary. Mr. Speaker, good to see you. GINGRICH: Always great. HANNITY: Great to be in your hometown, the swamp. Well, I guess now Italy would be your hometown, the Holy See, but, thank you. GINGRICH: Here we go. HANNITY: All right. When we come back, well, we stole his studio but he is coming back. Tucker Carlson he is going to weigh in on this fishing expedition on Judge Kavanaugh, as lot more as we continue from Washington, D.C. Please stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Despite getting the White House to agree to an FBI investigation, the Democrats have not slowed down their attack on Judge Kavanaugh. Joining me now with reaction, well, he is the author of a brand-new book, "Ship of Fools: How a Selfish Ruling Class is Bringing America to the Brink of Revolution," is our own Tucker Carlson who we see every night. Congrats on the book, number one. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Thank you. HANNITY: Thank you for letting me use your studio, number two. Number three, these are really scary times. CARLSON: Yes. HANNITY: And I think your book is impacting that. I'm really worried if it's guilt by accusation now. CARLSON: Of course. I mean, it's not a question of one party beating another in election, it's a question of whether the basic ideas upon which all of what we have are founded are swept away in this revolution. So, free speech, due process, the meritocracy. I mean, the things that have made our culture and our economy and our government possible for 240 years. These are all being blown up right now. And what's so fascinating and the reason I wrote the book, is it's liberals making arguments against the things that they defended for a hundred years. Free speech, colorblindness, they are attacking those very concepts. So, like the ACLU existed so that you could say what you thought was true without being punished. The great people who ran the ACLU have said the money are now trying to get you fired for disagreeing with them. Liberals fought against segregation. Good for them. Now they are holding segregated graduation ceremonies at Harvard, what? You see in every sphere-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me ask you this. Tucker, serious allegations like this, there are evil predators in this world. CARLSON: Yes. HANNITY: There are. I think the Republicans have handled it with an appropriate seriousness. But if you have inconsistencies, look at NBC, the allegation of Julie Swetnick. She is backtracking on very key details. She was describing the systematic, almost weekly drugging of young girls and gang raping them. And then she is like, well, I saw Judge Kavanaugh near the punch bowl. And one person she gave the name of his dad and another one said I've never heard of her. CARLSON: Well, it's ludicrous. HANNITY: Why was that covered? CARLSON: Well, if you want to discredit legitimate claims of sexual abuse and discredit the survivors of sexual abuse, take obviously ludicrous claims seriously. Which is exactly what they are doing. I went to nine gang rapes in a row, public gang rapes on the tent. I was raped but I never filed a police report or told my friends? that is not plausible? There are plausible claims to-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: She is claiming she did speak to one -- they're looking into it to one officer. CARLSON: Yes, she did not file a police report. She did not. There is no evidence that she sought medical attention. But the idea that there could be 10 public gang rapes in Chevy Chase Maryland, refers (Ph) to Maryland, a small tight-knit community and no one remembers. I mean, it's not, look, it doesn't stand the plausibility test. Other claims do, this is not one of them. And for people to repeat them uncritically is reckless. When it corrodes the things that we need to preserve. HANNITY: And when an eye witness in an alleged incident not only doesn't corroborate but says it didn't happen, that's problematic. Especially if you believe in due process. CARLSON: Well, look, the problem is as you know, the left now controls every institution, essentially may be other than the White House in our society. They are deeply threatened by what's happening and so they are clamping down. HANNITY: Yes. CARLSON: Fearful people hate free speech, that's what you need to remember. HANNITY: "Ship of Fools," I've been reading it and it really is ripped from the headlines in so many ways. Tucker, congratulations. Amazon.com. Now in bookstores across the country. And thanks for joining us tonight. All right. When we come back, highlights the president had a rally tonight. A lot of people haven't been paying attention to it based on all the breaking news, we're going to show you some of that next. HANNITY: With all the news that we didn't talk about, the president the deal with NAFTA, a new NAFTA with obviously Canada and Mexico. He wrap up a rally in Tennessee, here is what he had to say. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Democrats believed that they are entitled to power, and they have been blinded, and a blind rage ever since, boy, they lost the 2016 election. They have gone loco. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: They have gone loco. They have gone crazy. This election is a choice between the Republican Party that is building our future, and the Democrat Party that is trying to burn our future down. Democrats can no longer be trusted with your power and with their power. You can't let it happen. They have moved so far left that Pocahontas is considered a conservative. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: In 36 days, five weeks from tomorrow, you have the power to shock the world again and the media and the left. We'll be back in D.C. tomorrow. Let not your heart be troubled. Here's Laura Ingraham next studio over. Load-Date: October 2, 2018 End of Document Rachel Mitchell Reports on Christine Blasey Ford's Credibility and on Inconsistencies in Her Testimony and How It Lacks Evidence; Political Debates are Heating Up on the Kavanaugh's Nominations; The Ex-Boyfriend of Julie Swetnick, One of Brett Kavanaugh's Accusers, Speaks Out Against Her; Yearbooks from Christine Blasey Ford's High School Assessed; Criticism of Kanye West's Support for President Trump Examined; Psychologist Discusses Phenomenon of False Memories Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST October 1, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7498 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Monica Crowley Guests: Richard Goodstein, Dan Bongino, Bryan Dean Wright, Richard Vinneccy, Jonathan Harris, Gianno Caldwell, Robert Mather Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: In 36 days, five weeks from tomorrow, you have the power to shock the world again and the media and the left. We will be back in D.C. tomorrow. Let not your heart be troubled. Here is Laura Ingraham, next studio over. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: I mean, you should just move here, Hannity. You've been here for, I don't know, looks like as long you were in Singapore. I mean -- in the makeup room -- HANNITY: Well, what do you want? Throw me out of the (inaudible). You want to kick me out D.C.? I don't even want to be in D.C. It is a swamp. It's a sewer. I don't really like it here. I like a few people but not very many to be honest. INGRAHAM: Sean, you did something to my folders. They were all in order and then you've changed them around. HANNITY: I don't understand this. Laura's producers come in with a pile this high and it's all labeled perfectly. They cut it out with, obviously, scissors and they tape it. Me, I've got papers like all over the place, you know. INGRAHAM: Yes, it's called organization, Hannity, OK. You should learn it someday. I have an awesome staff. That's why. HANNITY: Great to see you. Thanks for sharing our (inaudible) studio. Have a good show. INGRAHAM: All right you take care. All right, I'm Laura Ingraham. This is the THE INGRAHAM ANGLE coming to you from Washington tonight where we have a show full of exclusives including in his first television interview, the ex-boyfriend of Brett Kavanaugh accuser Julie Swetnick. He says that there are major issues with her credibility and he'll detail each of them. Also, as the obsession over Kavanaugh's high school yearbook continues, what about Dr. Ford's? THE INGRAHAM ANGLE got our hands on three years worth of Holton Arms textbooks. Oh, it's fun to look through them. It is like a walk down memory lane when she was there of course. And we are going to share our findings. But first, Christine Blasey Ford's credibility gap, that is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Rachel Mitchell, the prosecutor hired by the Senate Judiciary Committee to question Brett Kavanaugh and his accuser, Christine Blasey Ford last week has produced a report. Her findings are fascinating and speak to Dr. Ford's credibility. Her overall appraisal, Mitchell finds the assault allegations against Kavanaugh to be weak. And in the legal context, here is her bottom line. She writes "A he said- she said case is incredibly difficult to prove, but this case is even weaker than that. Dr. Ford identified other witnesses to the event, and those witnesses either refuted her allegations or failed to corroborate them. For the reasons discussed below, I do not think that a reasonable prosecutor would bring this case based on the evidence before the committee. Nor do I believe that the evidence is sufficient to satisfy the preponderance of evidence standard." That's a lower standard. Mitchell then offers a nine-point critique of Ford's account based on the evidence at hand. She writes "Dr. Ford has not offered a consistent account of when the alleged assault happened." In her July 6th text to the "Washington Post" Ford said it occurred in the mid-1980s. And then she changed her story in the letter to Dianne Feinstein, where she claims it happens in the early `80s. But in her polygraph statement in August, Ford said the assault happened one high school summer in the `80s. It changes there. She explicitly crossed out the word "early." Ms. Mitchell continues, saying "Dr. Ford has struggled to identify Judge Kavanaugh as the assailant by name. Dr. Ford has no memory of key details of the night in question -- details that could corroborate her account." (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RACHEL MITCHELL, PROSECUTOR: In your letter, you said that they went down to the stairs and they were talking with other people in the house. CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD, ACCUSER OF BRETT KAVANAUGH: Correct. MITCHELL: Were you able to hear that conversation? FORD: I was not able to hear that conversation. MITCHELL: How do you know there was a conversation? FORD: I am just assuming since it was a social gathering, people were talking. I don't know. MITCHELL: You said that you do not remember how you got home, is that correct? FORD: I do not remember. MITCHELL: OK. FORD: Other than I did not drive home. MITCHELL: OK. Has anyone come forward to say to you, hey, remember I was the one that drove you home? FORD: No. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Ford can't recall who invited her to the party, how she got to the party, the location of the party, where the alleged abuse occurred. Well, doesn't know where it was, nor how she got home or even how she arranged a ride there. All of this leads Mitchell to her next point. "Dr. Ford's account of the alleged assault has not been corroborated by anyone she identified as having attended including her lifelong boyfriend." Judge Kavanaugh, Mark Judge, Patrick Smythe all deny any such party ever occurred. Ford's friend, Leland kaiser, goes further saying in a sworn statement that she had no recollection of being at a party with Kavanaugh and never knew him. Now, recall that when Dr. Ford was questioned about her really good friends testimony, she kind of threw her under the bus. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MITCHELL: Do you have any particular motives to ascribe to Leland? FORD: I guess we could take those one at a time. Leland has significant health challenges and I am happy that she is focusing on herself and getting the health treatment that she needs and she let me know that she need her lawyer to take care of this for her. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So, guys, we have inconsistencies -- we have discrepancies and inconsistencies, and shades of changing the story. It goes on and on and on. Now, if the media cares to examine Kavanaugh's credibility on questions of whether he drank too much, whether he blacked out, fine, have at it, OK. Do it. But you've got to hit these other issues as well. To me, it is just fair. And that is the question of media credibility, reporter's credibility. It can't be off limits. If you're going to have an unsubstantiated, uncorroborated allegation after the process of confirmation has already concluded, and you're going to go before the committee, and you're going to say all this stuff, and then the media is not going to question you, I just find that to be absurd. By the way, Rachel Mitchell goes on to suggest that in her professional opinion, Ford, as I said, has not offered a consistent account of the alleged assault. And so, this just keeps on shifting and shifting. The therapist notes indicated that four boys were in the bedroom when the assault occurred. Then Ford told the "Washington Post" that four boys were at the party, but only two were in the bedroom during the assault. In her testimony, she said four boys and her friend Leland were present at the party, but she couldn't recall the name of the fourth boy. No one claiming to be the fourth boy has yet to come forward. Now, perhaps the most damning of her Mitchell's critique was this one. "Dr. Ford has struggled to recall important recent events relating to the allegation, and her testimony regarding recent events raises further questions about her memory." (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MITCHELL: Did you show a full or partial set of those marriage therapy records to the "Washington Post"? FORD: I don't remember. I remember summarizing for her what they said, so I'm not quite sure if I actually gave her the record. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, forget her recall about an assaults 35 or 36 years ago. Ford couldn't recall events from just a few weeks earlier. During her testimony, Ford couldn't remember if she gave the "Washington Post" a complete or partial list of her therapist notes. It's a pretty big deal -- or whether she took her polygraph the day of her grandmother's funeral. That's a pretty big day to forget. Now, none of this is of interest though as I said earlier to the media. They spent the weekend fact-checking and questioning the credibility of Judge Kavanaugh. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILARY ROSEN, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: It has to matter, in my view, to the senators who are considering their vote, whether or not Judge Kavanaugh actually lied about his activities and his behavior over the course of his younger days. JIM KESSLER, CO-FOUNDER, THIRD WAY: There were other places where I thought it seemed like he was not forthcoming and was not telling the truth. SUSAN HENNESSY, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY AND LEGAL ANALYST: Questions into whether or not he lied in his testimony is relevant to his broader credibility. KAROUN DEMIRJIAN, CNN ANALYST: It is no longer about the credibility of the accuser so much of it is about Kavanaugh's credibility. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: In light of Mitchell's sober analysis, which she released without the input of Republicans or anyone else, shouldn't the media be concerned about the credibility of Dr. Ford's account? Credibility rest in part on recall, sometimes long ago, substantiating witnesses, corroborating witnesses, and evidence. But when all three are called into question by a seasoned sex abuse prosecutor like Mitchell -- she's not a political actor -- isn't it time for the media to at least entertain the possibility that they may have gone too far in their coverage? And that's the ANGLE. Joining me now for reaction, Democratic strategist and former advisor to Bill and Hillary Clinton, Richard Goodstein and former Secret Service Agent and NRA TV host Dan Bongino. So Richard, why aren't Democrats taking the report from Mitchell a little bit more seriously? RICHARD GOODSTEIN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: I think their view is this whole notion that we are looking at this as a criminal proceeding as a misdirection. And I think actually people feel sorry for Rachel Mitchell, that she thought she was being brought in to a serious proceeding and is being used as a pawn. As evidenced by the fact that when she started questioning Kavanaugh about July 1st on his calendar, man, she got cut off, right? And that was the last we have ever heard of her, when she seemed to be getting close to something that was actually fairly damning towards her. Look, the fact is, a real prosecutor would have spoken to witnesses face to face not just in that kind of perverse setting five minutes versus five. They would have gone -- INGRAHAM: Hold on a second Richard because I really want to keep this focused one at a time. My question was a simple one. Why aren't the Democrats, journalist, for that matter, why aren't they more interested in examining the facts of this case? I understand people are emotional. Victims come at their conclusions in different ways. There is false memory syndrome, they are people who suppress memories. I get all that. However, there are real discrepancies in her own account that she has told to the "Washington Post," Dianne Feinstein and to investigators. Ms. Mitchell is not a political actor. She did not come in here as a trailblazing pundit saying I want to get -- I want to get Ford or I want exonerate Kavanaugh. So, it seems like it is way overboard on the other side. Question Kavanaugh, that's fine, but it seems like no one wants to touch Ford's credibility, which I think is odd. GOODSTEIN: Well, let's let the FBI question everybody who was there, including Mark Judge whose girlfriend says that Mark Judge -- INGRAHAM: Stay on point. GOODSTEIN: OK, but I'm just saying. INGRAHAM: I get what you're saying. Stay on point on this. GOODSTEIN: Look. INGRAHAM: I am focusing on Christine Ford's credibility. GOODSTEIN: -- Ford was very, very. very specific about the bedroom, the bathroom, the stairway, the laughing, the running up, the configuration of the house. INGRAHAM: She doesn't know how to go there. GOODSTEIN: No, she did remember the house, right. This is traumatic for her in a way it wasn't for anybody else, who was there, right. So why should Leland -- INGRAHAM: None of the people she said were there said they were there. GOODSTEIN: No, no, no. INGRAHAM: Yes. GOODSTEIN: They did say they didn't remember. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Her closest friend -- GOODSTEIN: Right. INGHRAHAM: Her closest friend said that she never met Brett Kavanaugh. She had no memory of the event. GOODSTEIN: That's what her lawyer's letter said, again, to listen to Dr. Ford, she's ill and she --. INGRAHAM: And she threw her under the bus. She threw her under the bus. Her friend. GOODSTEIN: And her friend said that she believes here. So let's let the friend get examined by the FBI and then we will see what she actually believes. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: All right, Dan Bongino, your reaction to just what we heard from Dr. Ford of course last week. But this very detailed, very kind of matter- of-fact report from Mitchell. DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Well, the report is devastating. I mean, this is a trained prosecutor in these matters. I did criminal investigations for many years, granted I did not do sexual abuse investigation, but I'm experienced in interviewing people as a federal agent and a former police officer. And Richard just doesn't know what he's talking about. I mean, he's playing a democratic activist on the show and frankly, I'm going to pray for his soul. I mean that because his role and the democrat goons, who took part in the shaming of this man's character, while not willing to answer an honest question from you Laura about the credibility of Ms. Mitchell's report. Having been praised by Janet Napolitano of all people, who is a known Democrat and Obama appointee, refusing to answer a simple question why Dr. Ford --listen, by all means, her story was heard, the Republicans were very respectful. I've been respectful of that. I think it's time that people like Richard, everybody else pay the same respect to Judge Kavanaugh and start to answer honest questions about the massive, gaping holes in Christine Blasey Ford's story. It is only fair. GOODSTEIN: So let the FBI, Dan -- look, I will concede that the FBI and no political actor should get to the bottom of every one of these facts. They should basically put Chirstine Blasey Ford through the mill and make sure that if there are holes -- if they are inexplicable, fine, and if they're not, they're not. BONGINO: Richard, have you ever done a background? Have you done a federal background investigation? Just asking. Have you ever done one? GOODSTEIN: I have tried cases in federal court. BONGINO: OK, I have. I have. No, no, I have. See, I did this so you don't know how this works. And what you are saying is that the FBI does criminal investigations and backgrounds. They don't. What they do because I've done them with the Secret Service, are criminal history backgrounds GOODSTEIN: They get facts. BONGINO: They don't do criminal investigations into areas they have no purview on. This is not what the FBI does. You're making this sound like they're going to go back and put people on polygraphs to conduct a criminal investigation. It is a lie and a misdirection. Come on. INGRAHAM: I want to talk about how the goalposts have shifted in this case from whether an assault occurred to you whether Brett Kavanaugh drinks too much or drank too much in college. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LAWREnCEW O'DONNELL, MSNBC HST: The cut reports that Kavanaugh and his crowd whom (inaudible) characterized as loud, obnoxious frat boy like drunks, were the hardest drinkers on campus. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You also have the former friends and classmates, and roommates who say that he was, as we heard yesterday, they say that he was a sloppy drunk. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You have these other people from parts of his life who have said that he was belligerent when he was drunk and other things. (END VIDEPO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, I don't know, but having been to a few Dartmouth attorney parties in my day, that's pretty much a lot of people. I just think you lose so many people. Well, he was a sloppy drunk. Is there a neat drunk? What is a neat drunk? I have never heard of someone who was a neat drunk. I think you can be a happy drunk. But I just think this is looking so ridiculous. It now it's like an animal house kind of deal. This is where we are. I thought it was an assault, now he's a sloppy drunk. Oh, come on. GOODSTEIN: So there are two issues here. One is, and Amy Klobuchar is trying to give him this opportunity to say look, if you didn't really remember things because you did drink to excess, which a lot of his friends say. And look at his comportment. If a woman was up for Supreme Court justice and comported herself at the hearing the way that he did, she would be labeled hysterically and utterly unfit. It is amazing that a guy can do that and somehow act like oh, well, what would you expect? He is under attack. I'm sorry. Those I think the issues that people are trying to get out of here. INGRAHAM: I wouldn't say a woman was being hysterical. If she was actually defending herself against false charges, I think people have a right -- GOOSTEIN: And asking a senator how much they drink and what -- INGRAHAM: He was sitting for hours and hours. I got to say people have to be given a little, I mean, he apologized. I think it was smart for him to do that. I thought Klobuchar was actually pretty good in her questioning, I have to say. Guys, thanks so much. And doubling down on the Kavanaugh charges might have seemed like a good idea for Democrats, but how will that strategy play out in November? One Democrat predicts that the Kavanaugh allegations could be responsible for a red wave in the midterms. Writing for Fox News, Bryan Dean Wright says if Democrats thus fall short this November, they will suffer the rightful consequences of using the victims of sexual assault to advance a political agenda." Bryan joins us now to discuss. Bryan, now, if this tactic worked in the past though, why wouldn't it work now? BRYAN DEAN WRIGHT, FORMER CIA OFFICER: We've hit a different point here. Look, people have used people's backgrounds to slime in D.C. That is not new. But what we have here started end of July through middle September. There was a victim sexual of assault with the allegations could have been held, or investigated with the degree of discretion, with a degree of care for this woman. But instead, it was held and then dropped as a political bomb right before the final vote. And I am telling you that not only victimized her again, but those of us who have been victimized by different folks in our lives, sexually, it has re- traumatized many of us. And so for folks that are watching this out in America, I guarantee you a whole bunch of people are incredibly frustrated, left, right and center, on having to go through some of these accusations in their own lives, let alone watching this woman be dragged through the mud. There is a line that has been crossed. INGRAHAM: There is some polling that indicates that it is kind of split. I mean, most Republicans believe Kavanaugh, most Democrats don't. Independents are kind of split down the middle. There are some intereting state races. In North Dakota, Heidi Heitkamp now has a 10 point deficit and of the issues that voters are siding is the Kavanaugh hearings. We will see how that plays out. It is still early, but that is not great news for her. In Missouri, Claire McCaskill is down two points in one poll. Obviously, she is the incumbent. Has been fairly popular in Missouri against Josh Hawley and is also after the Kavanaugh issue and after she came out against Judge Kavanaugh. Could this be, when it all boils down to the end of this whole saga, could this be that the year of the woman that we saw in 1982 becomes the year of the man, or the year of the women who are sick of all of these charges? Not to try to put too fine a point on this, but maybe it is going to flip? It could happen. WRIGHT: You know, I think there is two things, less gender, and I think this is more of a partisan issue at first. We are seeing a lot of Republicans who have otherwise been a bit soft and turns the winner up, they'll show up in November, rising up and saying this is a line that has been crossed, that it is way too far. The real question is independence, which right now are split. But I think if you see an FBI investigation come back that says there's nothing there. Independent and a whole lot of folks, even on a Democratic side, some of those conservative Democrats, moderate Democrats such as myself, are going to see through this for what it is, and it is an absolute fraud that is unforgivable. INGRAHAM: All right, Bryan. Thank you. And as Democrats push the FBI to investigate the wild Kavanaugh accusations made by Julie Swetnick. Her former boyfriend joins us next in a television exclusive to explain why he thinks she is not reliable. Stay right there. INGRAHAM: Now the claims of Brett Kavanaugh's third accuser, Julie Swetnick, are so outlandish that we were skeptical from the start. Now that doubt seems oppression as numerous stories about her past have trickle down including one from our next guest, Richard Vinneccy, Swetnick's ex- boyfriend of seven years, claiming she threatened him and his family. For more, we are joined in a television exclusive by Mr. Vinneccy himself along with his lawyer, Marcia Hanson. Both of you, thank you for joining us tonight. Richard, what are your motivations for coming forward now? RICHARD VINNECCY, SWETNICK'S FORMER BOYFRIEND: Yes. This has nothing to do with political issues. I mean, I believe so I came over here yesterday so I could tell the truth. I think it's my civil duty to do so and that is why the reasons why I came. INGRAHAM: Now, you claim, Richard, that Ms. Swetnick threatened you after you broke up with her. What types of threats are you alleging? VINNECCY: Right after I broke up with here, she basically called me many times and at one point she basically said will never, ever, see your unborn child alive and, you know, I just want to go over there, I'm going to kill you guys. INGRAHAM: She said she was going to kill you? VINNECCY: Yes. And that really scared me a little bit. INGRAHAM: Well, you told "Politico" originally, Richard, that she threatened your family and your baby. VINNECCY: Correct. INGRAHAM: But you meant -- the unborn. You meant the unborn child, is that right? VINNECCY: I meant the unborn child that's correct. I was not married at that time when this happened. INGRAHAM: Did she ever discuss with you in your seven year relationship, was from 1994-2001, the issue of sexual assault, or did she mention ever having been sexually assaulted? VINNECCY: Never, never once she mentioned that to me. And we used to talk about it, just about everything and she never once mentioned that at all. INGRAHAM: Did she have a political background? Was she interested in politics? VINNECCY: Not that I know of. You know, she was always wanting to be the center of attention and then she always want to do something major. She is always trying to impress me with everything. She (inaudible). She was exaggerating everything. If anybody knows Julie, I'm the person, I mean, I know because I lived with here. And everything that came out of her mouth was just exaggerations. She never mentioned that to me at all. And it was something that I was very surprised to hear this. Actually, I was very surprised to actually see her making these accusations because she had never, ever mentioned that to me at all. INGRAHAM: Now, you filed a restraining order in March of 2001 after these threats. You said in repeated phone calls to you, threatening you, and your unborn child and your family. But you never follow through with it. You never appeared in court. If you were so threatened by Julie Swetnick, you know, your ex-girlfriend, then why didn't you follow through? VINNECCY: Yes. That is a question that everybody is asking. And the reason I didn't is because, you know, I knew that I have to see her again. I talked to at that time to my family and we decided not to do anything. Not to follow because I didn't want to provoke her. I am not the type of person, I mean, I knew the type of person Julie is, and I was afraid, to be honest with you. So we decided to just leave it alone in the hopes that this would go away because at that time, the only thing I was concerned about was my family and the well-being of my family. So we decided to change our numbers and move and that is basically what we did. And right after that we never heard from her again. INGRAHAM: And after you came forward in that initial interview with "Politico," did you hear from any of her representatives or did you hear from her at all? VINNECCY: Not at all. Not at all. INGRAHAM: Your own credibility has been called into question, and I know you know this, by her lawyer, Michael Avenatti. He appeared earlier tonight on CNN. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOME, CNN HOST: Her boyfriend says she can't be trusted, that it's a credibility thing. Swetnick can't be trusted. I've said it three times. Are any of them impressive to you? MICHAEL AVENATTI, LAWYER: No, it's ludicrous. Chris, first of all, one lawsuit was filed. It was almost immediately dismissed. The claims by her ex-boyfriend, I mean who doesn't have an ex-boyfriend or an ex-girlfriend that might say bad things about them? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, ex-boyfriend, you know. Breakups are brutal, right? They can be brutal, in this case, yours was really, of course, really not fun. But people are going to say you don't like her because you were with her for seven years and that you had a bad ending. VINNECCY: Yes, like I say again before -- like I said before, if anybody knows Julie Swetnick, I know. She is -- if you asked me personally if I believe her, I don't believe her. Personally, I don't believe her. I really don't believe her. No one knows better -- I mean nobody knows Julie Swetnick better than me. And, you know, he can say everything he wants, but the facts are that I know her and that is what I came here to tell the truth. I know how she is. INGRAHAM: Well, you were with her for seven years. I mean, you are describing her like she is a total nightmare, but you spent seven years with her. Why were you with her for seven years? VINNECCY: That's true. For the first couple of years we had a nice relationship. We weren't together for seven years. We were together off and on for seven years. The first couple of years we spent in -- about a year and a half we spent in San Jose, and then another couple of years we were in Bethesda. And then I was transferred to Panama. And then I came back a couple of years later. But anyway, we were seeing each other once in a while. But the more I saw it, I mean, the more I saw her and I basically experienced the things that she was doing. I just didn't like it. I mean the fact that she was lying to me, she pretty much talked about everybody. She talked about lawsuits. She was like, I don't know -- she was like talking about lawsuits. She was trying to -- at one point, I remember she told me that she was filing a lawsuit, harassment lawsuit against American Airlines or lawsuits. I mean, so, I tried and decided, listen, you're going to have to stop these lawsuits thing because it is ridiculous. She would talk to me about her family. She would do odd things about me. Every time we would get into fights, she would get right in my face. She would ask me to hit her. That's just really weird. Most of my friends did not like her. In fact, they can testify about that. And it was -- INGRAHAM: Wait, wait, hold on, Richard. Richard, hold on. She asked you to -- she was like "hit me?" Why would she say that? VINNECCY: I don't know. That was for any minor issues that we had had, she would always get into my face. The first time I experienced that, it was like, oh, my God. This is incredible. She would get right in my face. She would say hit me. Hit me, Richard, hit me. And then she would say something like, remember what happened to my ex- boyfriend. And I would just walk away. It was just impossible to -- INGRAHAM: Richard, Richard, I know you've had some financial issues in the past, and you haven't shied away from that, correct? You got underwater on a mortgage, you've had your own issues, correct? VINNECCY: That is correct, like everybody else, I guess. INGRAHAM: When you watched her testify last week, when she went through the very heartfelt description of what happened to her at the hands of what she said was Brett Kavanaugh, was went through your mind? When the rest of the country was saying she so credible, she is so believable, you knew her for seven years. What was going through your mind? VINNECCY: Well, first of all, when I first heard her name mentioned on TV, I'm thinking oh, my God, totally amazed. INGRAHAM: She obviously didn't testify. Excuse me, rephrase. She obviously didn't testify. When you heard her come up with these allegations of this hideous attack, a gang rape, a sexual assault, you had been with her for seven years. Did she ever say anything about gang rape? VINNECCY: Never. Never. Never. We talked about everything. She never once mentioned this to me at all. INGRAHAM: Richard, Marcia, thank you so much for being with us tonight. We'll probably try to have you back if other things come up, but we really, really appreciate it, and we appreciate your time. All right, another exclusive tonight, Brett Kavanaugh's high school yearbook under intense media scrutiny. But what about Christine Blasey Ford's? We have our hands on three years worth of them, and we'll reveal our findings, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Activists on the left have created basically a deadly ideology where harassment and even doing bodily harm has become essentially a legitimate tool of the resistance. To allow this dangerous trend to continue of the kind of stuff we have been seeing is going to take our republic and our politics to places we dare not go. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now we on "The Angle" have been warning for some time about these increasingly hostile tactics on the left. And when two activists cornered Jeff Flake in an elevator, they saw they can get results. "Think Progress's" Ian Millhise tweeted shortly after "Tell me again why should we shouldn't confront Republicans where they eat, where they sleep, why they work, until they stop being complicit in the destruction of our democracy." And this weekend, a Georgetown professor took it a step further, tweeting "Look at this chorus of entitled white men justifying a serial rapist arrogated entitlement. All of them deserve miserable deaths while feminist laugh as they take their last gasps. Bonus -- we castrate their corpses and feed them to the swine." Yes. Wow. This is quite something. Joining us for reaction, Monica Crowley, senior fellow at the London Center for Policy Research. All right, Monica, we have so many things to get to with you. I'm so glad we have you. Do Democrats, though, really believe this extreme behavior is going to carry them to victory in November? Where is the line drawn, or is the line gone? MONICA CROWLEY, LONDON CENTER FOR POLICY RESEARCH: Laura, the left is either engaged in performance anger or destruction theater of the kind we have seen targeted against Brett Kavanaugh, or they are engaged in inciting violence against those with whom they disagree. We have reached a tipping point here. And I thought we had reached it last year when a leftist shot up a baseball field where the Congressional teams were playing and nearly killed the House Majority Whip Steve Scalise. That actual act of violence I thought would wake up people on the left that they can have their radicalism, they can try to fundamentally transform the nation. But I thought that they would back off from their incitements to violence and their radical violent behavior. And instead what we have seen since that point is that they have actually ratcheted it up. They think it works because over many, many years, in fact, it has, not just here, but elsewhere are around the world where leftish has tried these tactics. So they are not backing off. They are actually ratcheting it up. INGRAHAM: This started during the campaign. We saw the violent reaction to the president, then candidate Trump when he traveled to California. We saw what happened when he planned to go to Chicago. They basically threatened him out of Chicago, threatened violence and so forth. OK, I have got to get your thoughts, though, Monica, on this next exclusive. While the media was busying itself with analysis of the high school that Brett Kavanaugh attended, nobody seems interested in the other side of the equation, the culture at the accuser Christine Blasey Ford's high school Holton-Arms. So we got our hands on three years of Holton-Arms yearbooks, and the pages inside, there's some normal stuff. Sports and all of that stuff, pictures. But also there's like a raucous party like atmosphere. We have been talking about Kavanagh's party habits, but what do we know about Ford's partying ways? And nobody seems interested in asking this question. I think a lot of people because I've talked to some of them are afraid to say anything because then you are shaming the victim, but this is not a criminal trial. This is a Supreme Court confirmation process with no corroborating witnesses, Monica. CROWLEY: You know what, Laura, the feminist movement was all about equal treatment for women, right? But now, what we have seen with the bastardization of the #MeToo movement is that all women are to be treated as delicate flowers. Nobody is to raise any questions. In other words, women making accusations, some of which are true, some of which may be false, but they are all to be protected in some sort of insulated zone because they are never to be questioned. Well, isn't that the exact opposite of what the feminist movement was all about? We're supposed to be treated as men are. Well, OK, that's fine. Then those allegations, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Then let's see her high school yearbook. Was she the equivalent of a nun? I don't know, maybe she was in high school. But the fact that we are at this point, Laura, the battle of the high school yearbooks in a Supreme Court nomination process is theater of the absurd. INGRAHAM: Well, look, parents are out and kids party. It describes parties for everything. They joke about this party for Arbor Day, party for graduations, celebrations, anniversaries. It is party culture. That is a fact. CROWLEY: It was high school. INGRAHAM: It was high school in the '80s. And it's high school now. They are talking about Kavanaugh. Did you drink too much? He was a sloppy drunk. And look through any of these yearbooks, we've got three of them from when she was there. This is what the kids were doing at all these schools. But Holton-Arms, hold on, Holton-Arms and Georgetown Prep, they did not have a lot of cross pollinating. Most of the schools, the boys schools that were referenced in these yearbooks, is Landon School. So the Landon School and Holton-Arms, they had a lot of parties together. Not so much Georgetown Prep. I have got to play one thing for you, Monica, one thing. This is Michael Avenatti talking about Brett Kavanaugh, going back to Julie Swetnick outrageous allegation, the whole gang rape thing, about whether Kavanaugh was seen spiking punch, OK, versus what Swetnick said earlier tonight on MSNBC about the very same thing. We have the soundbites. Put them against each other. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you see Brett Kavanaugh spiking the punch? JULIE SWETNICK: I saw him giving red solo cups to quite a few girls during that timeframe. And there was green punch at those parties. And I would not take one of those glasses from Mark Kavanaugh -- Brett Kavanaugh, excuse me. I saw him around the punch -- I won't say bowls, or the punch containers. MICHAEL AVENATTI, JULIE SWETNICK'S LAWYER: I had a telephone conversation with a woman who will go unnamed, who lives in Florida, who told me directly that Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh would spike the punch with grain alcohol and Quaaludes. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: We're almost out of time, Monica, but just real quick. CROWLEY: So Laura, tonight the "New York Times" has a breaking news story that one time in college Brett Kavanaugh threw ice on someone. INGRAHAM: OK. He should definitely not be on the Supreme Court. CROWLEY: In 72 hours we have gone from Brett Kavanaugh is gang rapist to, oh, he threw ice on someone in college. This is where we are. INGRAHAM: Oh, my goodness. Thanks so much, Monica. And did "Saturday Night Live" browbeat Kanye West over his Trump support? We'll show you the video they cut from air, they took it out, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KANYE WEST, RAPPER: They bullied me. They bullied me backstage. They said don't go out there with that hat on. OK. I'm going to listen to you all now. I'm going to put my Superman cape on. This means you can't tell me what to do. Ninety percent of news are liberal. So it's easy to make it seem like it is so, so, so one-sided. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was rapper Kanye West responding to his critics over his support of President Trump. Of course, he was booed by the "SNL" audience who kind of proved his point. Joining me now for debate our political analyst Gianno Caldwell and Democrat Commentator Jonathan Harris. Jonathan, I think Kanye has gotten everyone spun around. And he is the brave one, going out into liberal la-la land and getting booed because he likes Trump. JONATHAN HARRIS, POLITICAL ANALYST AND COLUMNIST: I don't think he's getting booed because he likes Trump. I think he is getting booed because he is saying one outlandish thing over another. And I can't figure out -- he has admitted to struggling with mental illness, or if this is just an actual political stance of his and he truly believes it and it's just he is misinformed? INGRAHAM: Can black people be supporters of Trump and not be crazy? HARRIS: I don't think anyone can be a supporter of Trump and not be -- no, I'm kidding. INGRAHAM: We got you. That was easy. End of segment. (LAUGHTER) HARRIS: No, honestly. It's hard because I think anybody African-American who supports Republicans, people go, oh, they can't do it because they're on the plantation. That's a common talking point from the right. But it's not that. It's just there is no reason to support Trump if you're African- American. He says I cut the unemployment for black. He has lowered the unemployment rate for black people by one percent at this point. Obama cut it in half. So the argument would be that you would be a Democrat because Obama cut it in half, Trump lowered it one point. INGRAHAM: So you don't think, Gianno, Kanye West is this very -- he is an out their figure. I think he's interesting. I think he is doing like a whole performance art on the whole monolithic entertainment industry, and they don't know what to do. Wait a second, he was cool five minutes ago. Now he has a red hat on that says "Make America Great Again," so he must be cuckoo. GIANNO CALDWELL, FOX NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST: One of the lyrics in Kanye's songs is It was all good just a week ago. So certainly when he wrote songs and he was bold by saying Jesus walks, what I see from this whole situation is nothing less than a high-tech character assassination in public square, social media. I was completely and totally dismayed when I posted Kanye's picture with him on the jet with the "Make America Great Again" hat on and asked people what they thought on my Instagram @GiannoCaldwell. Feel free to follow there. And if you see the comments, I couldn't believe it. It was outrageous, the names that people called him, cool and the like. This is the same individual who people applauded, we're talking about folks on the left, when he said George Bush doesn't care about black people. My friend on the other side, I'm pretty sure that was great. He said it was great. He enjoyed when he said that. But the moment that you begin to think differently, and I know this as a black conservative, when the moment you begin to state things that maybe breaks or shatters groupthink and monolithic thought when it comes to being a Republican or being conservative, you are considered an outcast. And that is very problematic. And I don't see why us as a community, and it is not just the black community, it is the entire country almost at this point. You talk about the folks on the left, why is it that we are at this place when it only comes to black people? You don't hear them say that when it comes to white Americans. You don't hear that at all. INGRAHAM: We are almost out of time, but I will give you the last word on this, because Trump is doing good things for the economy, it is good for all people. HARRIS: Right. INGRAHAM: Today it's NAFTA. We haven't mentioned NAFTA, a huge deal, Democrats wanted to do it. Trump actually got it done. HARRIS: But the thing about saying that you were criticizing Kanye because he is black. It's not. He just said earlier today he said he wasn't sure if he could figure out whether or not Abraham Lincoln was white or black. He said slavery was a choice. CALDWELL: And he apologized for that. HARRIS: It doesn't matter. He is saying stupid stuff. And people are criticizing him. That is what equality is. CALDWELL: Have you always been correct and accurate in every statement you have made? HARRIS: No, absolutely not. But I don't have a history of making ridiculous remarks. CALDWELL: People are entitled to make mistakes, and they are entitled to apologize. We should have that right. INGRAHAM: You guys, you know what I want to do? I want to have another town hall. I want you both coming, OK, because we have to talk about this whole issue of race in America, where we are today, and I'd love to have you both on. Thanks so much. The entirety of Dr. Ford's Kavanaugh accusations relies on a single memory. So could it be something called false memory? A psychologist joins us next with some answers. INGRAHAM: The Kavanaugh sexual assault allegations from Christine Ford are wholly reliant on the memory of one person, Ford herself. No corroborating account. Is it possible she created something known as a false memory? Joining us now to explain what that means is Professor Robert Mather, an expert in experimental psychology. So professor, explain in simple terms very quickly how a false memory may be at play here. ROBERT MATHER, EXPERIMENTAL PSYCHOLOGY EXPERT: Well, thank you for having me on, Laura. False memories are interesting. There's volumes of research that show going back to Loftus' work that you can implant memories and children such as being lost in the mall. And kind of the key to that is that the image has to have a lot of details. It has to be thought about many times over and over again. And easy to imagine. The ability heuristic allows us to kind of base our belief in the confidence of what we are retrieving on how easily we recalled it. INGRAHAM: Now, what would spur you to create a false memory, doctor? MATHER: Well, some of Elizabeth Loftus' work has demonstrated that therapy itself -- of course this is not all types of therapy, but there are some issues in therapy were false memories are recovered, and of course, they are false. INGRAHAM: So in other words if you are in therapy, you're talking about a problem you have currently, and in her case it was with her husband, something about two doors, she wanted two doors at the front of her house. He got really maybe upset about it. And then something did happen to her, and then she sees Brett Kavanaugh's name mentioned as a possible Supreme Court nominee, I mean, how does the brain work it? I know that is a big question. MATHER: That's one possibility. In 1975 there was a case of a man named Donald Thompson, and he was a psychologist that actually studied memory and eyewitness testimony in Australia. And what Mr. Thompson did was he was on air giving a discussion of this when a woman was brutally raped. And she recalled seeing his picture and told the police that he was one that did it. But he had an airtight alibi and the fact that he was on television at the time of the attack. INGRAHAM: Wow. Oh, my gosh. This is the most fascinating interview of this whole show, other than the exclusive of Swetnick's former boyfriend. Doctor, thank you so much. The last bite, up next. INGRAHAM: It's time now for the last bite. The media now suggesting that Judge Kavanaugh is guilty of being a big drinker, and that disqualifies him from sitting on the high court. The president today dismissed the idea and then added this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I'm not a drinker. I can honestly say I've never had a beer in my life, OK? It is one of my only good traits. I don't drink. Whenever they are looking for something, I say I've never had a glass of alcohol. I've never had alcohol. I've just, you know, for whatever reason. Can you imagine if I had what a mess I'd be? I'd be the world's worst. (END VIDEO CLIP) Load-Date: October 2, 2018 End of Document Kavanaugh Debate Turns Raw, Ugly; New Yorker Hit Over Kavanaugh; Kellyanne a Sexual Assault Victim; Media Attacks on Kavanaugh Fox News Network MEDIA BUZZ 11:00 AM EST September 30, 2018 Sunday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7623 words Byline: Howard Kurtz, Susan Ferrechio, Marie Harf, Brit Hume Guests: Mollie Hemingway Body HOWARD KURTZ, MEDIA BUZZ SHOW HOST, FOX NEWS: On "Buzz Media" this Sunday, a deeply emotional drama played out on television. Brett Kavanaugh versus Christine Blasey Ford in a Senate hearing that is fully (ph) passionate and polarizing coverage (ph). (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD, ACCUSER OF BRETT KAVANAUGH: -- seen my life picked apart by people on television, on Twitter, other social media, other media, and in this body who have never met me or spoken with me. CHRIS WALLACE, HOST, FOX NEWS: This was extremely emotional, extremely raw, and extremely credible. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The worst thing for Kavanaugh happened which is Professor Ford came across credibly. She came across as human. She didn't come across as a Democrat out for revenge. BRETT KAVANAUGH, NOMINEE TO BE ASSOCIATE JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES: My family and my name have been totally and permanently destroyed by vicious and false additional accusations. Crazy stuff. Gangs, illegitimate children, fights on boats in Rhode Island. All nonsense reported breathlessly and often uncritically by the media. CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST, MSNBC: He seemed angry at the back of this old stuff being brought up than he was indignant that anybody would accuse him of this stuff. CYNTHIA ALKSNE, LEGAL ANALYST, MSNBC: I thought it was a temper tantrum. He was angry and belligerent, and it was kind of scary. BILL BENNETT, CONTRIBUTOR, FOX NEWS: I think we saw Judge Kavanaugh's soul today. Righteous indignation and it's powerful. (END VIDEOTAPE) KURTZ: Is the press being fair to the judge and his accuser over the sexual assault allegation? Do the other accusers deserve so much media attention? How are journalists covering the one-week delay for an FBI probe? And Martha MacCallum on her unprecedented sit-down with the nominee. Plus, a total media frenzy over Rod Rosenstein with report saying he's out, he's done, he's finished as deputy attorney general. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A source tells CNN now that Rosenstein has submitted his resignation. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Except that didn't happen. How did the coverage spin out of control? I'm Howard Kurtz and this is "Media Buzz." President Trump ordered a one-week investigation of the Kavanaugh allegations. The move was essentially forced by Republican Senator Jeff Flake. (INAUDIBLE) week in which senators spent hours shouting and squabbling about the sexual assault allegations and many pundits are denouncing one side or the other. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEAN HANNITY, HOST, FOX NEWS: They destroyed this man and his family. They bludgeoned him all for the sake of power. There was zero presumption of innocence here or due process. TARA SETMAYER, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: It just felt as though that the Republican senators approached her as a nuisance and approached him as entitled to what he should have. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Joining us now to analyze the coverage: Mollie Hemingway, senior editor at "The Federalist" and a Fox News contributor; Susan Ferrechio, chief congressional correspondent for "The Washington Examiner"; and Marie Harf, a Fox News analyst and former State Department spokeswoman. Mollie, what's your assessment of how the media covered Brett Kavanaugh's highly emotional testimony as opposed to how they covered Christine Ford's highly emotional testimony? MOLLIE HEMINGWAY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR, SENIOR EDITOR, THE FEDERALIST: Well, just in general, I don't know if I have ever seen such a reprehensible performance by the media as they have done with this larger story. They have thrown away any devotion to facts in favor of emotion. You saw that from almost everyone who was covering this. They were talk about emotion. They weren't talking about actual facts, actual news. And it was very frustrating to watch, was very angering to watch, and it was as if they had just thrown off any semblance of objectivity. KURTZ: (INAUDIBLE). HEMINGWAY: It was infuriating. It was disappointing. It is disappointing as a journalist. You expect -- you expect people who are in politics to play politics. Democrats to be one way, Republicans to be another. But for the media to align themselves so completely with Democratic Party politics here, it is frustrating and it's frustrating and it is just unacceptable and it should not be tolerated in any way. KURTZ: Susan, what I saw on the hearing day was a rough consensus during the breaks, that Christine Ford had been a credible witness and a sympathetic witness. But much more of a left-right split among not just commentators but journalists about Judge Kavanaugh and his account and his demeanor. So, for example, "New York Times" front page headline yesterday taking issue with the judge's tone. "Diatribe by Nominee Threatens Neutrality of Court. Some Fear." SUSAN FERRECHIO, CHIEF CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT, WASHINGTON EXAMINER: Well, that's because -- because he was going after the Democrats. No matter what you say about whether you're saying there was too much credence given to the testimony of Ford and whether he was too impassioned, what was unusual here was that he directly addressed the Democrats and he went back to the original confirmation hearing which he called as an embarrassment. KURTZ: And he talked about the revenge of the Clintons. FERRECHIO: That's right. He gave them talking points on that front. So I have to say I agreed with that coverage because you did -- that was highly unusual, to have a Supreme Court nominee do that. But they leave out the fact that even on the Supreme Court now, Ruth Bader Ginsburg has come out against Donald Trump in the past. So it's not like the Supreme Court is completely devoid of politics. KURTZ: Right. Marie, I've really been struck by a divide among many male commentators and female commentators in the way they view this. Just to read you a couple of headlines. National Review's Rich Lowry, the headline is, Judge Kavanaugh should be angry, because he's defending himself against charges that he says are completely bogus. Slate's Christina Cauterucci, Kavanaugh's anger made it easier than ever to picture him as an aggressive entitled teen. MARIE HARF, ANALYST, FOX NEWS: I actually think that it's not just commentator members as (ph) woman who saw that anger that Judge Kavanaugh displayed differently. I think it was people around the country. I'm hearing from folks, friends on Facebook, people on social media. The other thing, Howie, that we're hearing are or that I really noticed about the coverage is can you imagine the coverage if this nominee who was crying and screaming and being very hysterical had been a woman? HEMINGWAY: This is precisely the kind of disgusting thing that I think is just -- (CROSSTALK) HARF: -- disgusting, Mollie. I'm a commentator, I'm not a journalist, and that's how I felt when I watched it. And can I just be very clear though, this hearing was actually not a hearing about facts. This was a hearing that was in large part emotion. We know most of the facts that came out. No new facts generally were introduced during the hearing because we didn't hear from people we hadn't heard from before like Mark Judge. We heard very emotional testimony on both sides. So the fact that the story focused on the emotion, like, I don't think it's fair for you to say my feelings watching the hearing were disgusting. KURTZ: Mollie? HEMINGWAY: What is -- what is inappropriate is to say that a man who has been accused of serial gang rape, who has been told he can no longer coach his -- do his favorite thing which is coach his daughter's basketball team does not have a right to get angry. In this country, we do have rule of law. We do have due process. And this is something that men and women care about. It is not something that only men care about. Women care about due process. We care about the men in our lives. We care if they are accused of something that we don't say, oh, it feels a certain way to me. We say what are the facts, what are the facts that support destroying this man's life, his name, his reputation, his honor that he spent decades building up? Now, in journalism, we care about facts, facts. KURTZ: Let me give you one more chance because Mollie brings up what I thought was extreme allegation by a far less credible accuser, we forget too in a moment about gang rapes in parties and so fort. Did that -- the other accusers money the lawyers, so Christine Ford looked like just one of several women who coordinated last-minute desperation campaign which is trying to take the judge down? HARF: I think in the coverage leading up to the hearing before we heard from Dr. Ford yet, the other allegation sort of made it a little more complicated. You're right, Howie. But I think on the hearing coverage because it was the first time we have heard from Dr. Ford and first time we've seen her other than photos from high school basically, I think that the coverage focused on the hearing actually was much more on Dr. Ford and Judge Kavanaugh and less than I expected on this other allegations. I thought those would play more of a role in the hearing itself and in the coverage and it didn't. KURTZ: Susan, I want to get you in on this, but I also want to talk about President Trump at that U.N. news conference. He acknowledged, he has been questioned by reporters, that his view of the Kavanaugh allegations is influenced by what he says are many false allegations against him in the sexual harassment area. And that seems to be a big thing for the press, you know, first of all, they asked the president about it, that he and the Republican Party, you bring up Roy Moore and cases like that, are insensitive to sexual misconduct? FERRECHIO: Well, he also talked about being falsely accused -- KURTZ: Right. FERRECHIO: -- by several women. That influences the way he thinks about it. Look at the fair points of view. It's kind of taboo. We never supposed to question the accuser. I think in whether there may be false allegations, I think that's not a good thing. I think -- KURTZ: You don't think that's being questioned this week in this heavily intense coverage? Does Christine Ford have one single person who can corroborate her accusations as hard felt and as upset as she was at that hearing? FERRECHIO: I still feel like despite that, despite these gaps in her memory and inconsistencies that Rachel Mitchell, the prosecute, elevated during the discussion in the hearing, it still feels like taboo to bring up the fact that we have not looked at Ford's own credibility issues. And whether she has anything (p), we are not supposed to touch that, like, no, no, no, she is not the one who is trying to land a seat on the Supreme Court, but she is launching an allegation against someone who is. And I think there should be actually more focus on that. HEMINGWAY: And you can even see that in the way that Brett Kavanaugh's yearbook in high school is totally scrutinized. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: Right, right. HEMINGWAY: And again, you made an important point. She has a story. She had four, five, sometimes changing number of witnesses, all of whom say they have no idea what she is talking about. That should play a central part in the coverage. (CROSSTALK) HEMINGWAY: -- that she has no recollection of what is alleged by -- HARF: Wait, Mollie, this is an important point about the coverage. The way we talk about those other witnesses and the language we use, some commentators who want to believe her are pointing out that they don't say it didn't happen, they say they have no memory of it. Kavanaugh's supporters who are saying they completely -- KURTZ: OK, fair enough. HEMINGWAY: If you say you never met Kavanaugh and she said that they did - - KURTZ: Let me jump in because we are short on time. So, let me play a clip of Michael Avenatti, who of course represents the what I'm calling the third accuser, Julie Swetnick, on CNN. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: What is the most of damning nature of what she can show? MICHAEL AVENATTI, LAWYER FOR JULIE SWETNICK: Chris, I'm not going to weigh the allegations in the declaration -- (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: So, Avenatti puts it out there. He doesn't want to discuss it. Should the media have given Julie Swetnick -- this is the woman who went at 10 parties and woman being gang raped. What do you make of the media oxygen (ph) for this story? HEMINGWAY: The claim was that as an adult, she attended 10 gang rape parties where she saw under-aged people gang raped by Brett Kavanaugh. That is ludicrous on its space. Why compare it to the Pizzagate story where the media condemns people, whoever believe in Pizzagate. Here they were trafficking, promoting, putting this man on the airwaves so he can do this. This has real costs to people. It is so beneath the standards that we should have. FERRECHIO: Yes, they missed the whole point here, which is that Flake has a gang. In Capitol Hill, we call this gang. They have a lot of leverage. His gang is Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and Joe Manchin. The four of them are working together. He, among them, was a sole member of the Judiciary Committee. So him saying, I want this FBI probe, he is speaking for four people and their vote is -- KURTZ: He is going on "60 Minutes" tonight. All right, let me get a break. When we come back, Ronan Farrow and "The New Yorker" taking heat over a piece on Kavanaugh's second accuser and obviously had some major problems. And later, Martha MacCallum on how she handled her sit-down with the judge. KURTZ: "The New Yorker" drew an unusual degree of criticism when the magazine's Ronan Farrow and Jane Mayer published an allegation by Deborah Ramirez that Brett Kavanaugh had exposed himself to her in college despite admitting to gaps in her memory and her initial uncertainty that it was him. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're right. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorneys, she did become confident that it was him. RONAN FARROW, JOURNALIST, THE NEW YORKER: That's extremely typical of these stories when you are dealing with trauma, alcohol, many years in between. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: The second accuser has nothing. The second accuser doesn't even know, maybe it could have been him, maybe not. She admits that she was drunk. She admits time lapses. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Mollie, Ronan Farrow has an impressive record when it comes to reporting on Harvey Weinstein, Les Moonves. This piece, what do you make of the magazine publishing this particular article and the way much of the media handled it? HEMINGWAY: Right. Jane Mayer is someone who doesn't have a very good record for reporting on things. She has had problems in her past in how she has reported. Ronan Farrow had a really good reputation. By running this story which was based on a woman coming up, developing a new memory a couple of weeks ago that a lawyer helped her work on after she was reached out to by Senate Democrats, is just -- it is such a disservice. And it makes it look like his previous journalism might be in question if he thought that this was a good story, if he thought this was actually credible to run with it without any corroboration from anybody. And it weakened the overall case against Kavanaugh. I think she took at least plausible story in the first accuser and then each subsequent story has gotten more and more ridiculous. KURTZ: OK. I should say that Jane Mayer does have a long record as an investigative reporter. We can debate it at some other time. So, I went to publisher and here's why. You go to the story and there it is, a big flashing red light. Her memories contain gaps. She was drinking. Only after six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorneys that she felt confident enough to say this. But "The New Yorker" obviously under some time pressure did publish it. FERRECHIO: Yeah. We, as reporters, we go through this stuff with a fine tooth comb. The thing is, you know, the time lapse and the heavy drinking which raised an issue of credibility, what can you remember? When she heard the name Brett? Was she sure it was Brett Kavanaugh? You know, all these questions, huge questions coming on the heels of the original accusation from Ford -- I mean, how can you resist trying to put out a story like this? She is a Yale graduate. She went to school -- KURTZ: She was on the record. Bur here is the thing. "The New York Times" looked at the same story and the "Times" reports to its readers. We interviewed several dozen people in attempt to corroborate her story. Could find no one with firsthand knowledge. And then reports that Deborah Ramirez contacted former Yale classmates, asking if they recall the incident, and told some of them she could not be certain that Kavanaugh was the one who exposed himself. That's why the "Times" didn't publish it. HARF: "Times" also didn't publish because Ramirez would only go on the record with "The New Yorker." KURTZ: True. HARF: So, they should give -- KURTZ: Right. HARF: I think that "The New Yorker" laid out very clearly in their article the gaps and the problems of her story. I think they are actually -- KURTZ: True. HARF: -- very upfront about that. KURTZ: Right. HARF: This was a bit of a close call probably in terms of whether or not you publish. But they were very upfront about some of these questions. And as Ronan said, he is right when he said many victims of sexual assault, this is not uncommon that the memories come back later, they come back in pieces. This is probably a close call in terms of publishing. But they laid out very clearly the problems with her story for readers to evaluate. KURTZ: Just briefly, bottom line, "The New Yorker" had no one with (INAUDIBLE) knowledge to corroborate, had one person heard secondhand (ph) -- HARF: Right. KURTZ: And that's it. HEMINGWAY: I mean, this does not come even near the standard that you would require. But journalistic standards have been flying out the door in general. "USA Today" yesterday ran a piece saying that Brett Kavanaugh shouldn't be around children. I mean, there is something almost medieval and blood thirst in the media approach to this story. KURTZ: I think we can all agree despite the different opinions here that this gotten really, really ugly. Marie Harf, Susan Ferrechio, Mollie Hemingway, great to see you this Sunday. Ahead, we got Martha MacCallum. We got Corey Lewandowski on the Kavanaugh of culture war. That's what it is. And the coverage of the president. But up next, the media breathlessly report Rod Rosenstein was quitting or about to be fired, but he wasn't. KURTZ: It was breathless. It was downright dizzying. A media frenzy over the fate of Rod Rosenstein. Axios reported that he had verbally resigned as deputy attorney general. That turned out to be wrong. He only raised the possibility of resignation and it wasn't accepted. And then came the cable explosion. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A source tells CNN now that Rosenstein has submitted his resignation. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The breaking news now, CNN can report that the deputy attorney general, Rod Rosenstein, is expecting to be fired by President Trump. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, according to the White House, he's coming to resign. Other sources close to Rosenstein saying, I am not going to resign. If they want me out, they are going to have to fire me. UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice over): The question is, will he resign or will he be fired? And my guess would be that he will be fired, that he will not resign. JOHN ROBERTS, CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, FOX NEWS: What became clear is that Rod Rosenstein, according to a source familiar with the matter, has not verbally resigned to John Kelly as has been reported. Rather, he is heading to the White House "expecting" to be fired. (END VIDEOTAPE) KURTZ: Joining us now: Brit Hume, Fox's senior political analyst. And Brit, Rod Rosenstein was not fired. President Trump has postponed the meeting. The White House is signaling he's probably safe for now at least until the midterms. What did you make of that just media circus? BRIT HUME, SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST, FOX NEWS: There is kind of a running story in this town, there has been for sometime, which is Trump White House, Trump administration in chaos. Such that anything that comes along that would appear to imperil the cabinet member, senior staff member is seized upon and has a tendency to go right to the, you know, get fired, out. KURTZ: Yeah. HUME: Sometimes people do get fired in the Trump administration. Has happened a number of times. But it hasn't happened every time. You need to be careful at these things. I might note, Howard, in the midst of all this, what bothered me the most was, this all had to do with a meeting in which he has has said to erase (ph) the possibility of wearing a wire at the White House for the purpose of establishing unqualified nature of Trump's temperament approach now as serving president. We were given -- Fox News, I think Bret Baier got it, we had it on the air repeatedly, an explanation of that event which was that he was being criticized at a meeting by colleagues, Rod Rosenstein, for being too soft on Trump. His rebuttal to that was, what do you want me to do, wear a wire? A sarcastic rebuttal. It was reported wildly that he was -- thr explanation was he was joking. KURTZ: Right. HUME: At no time was that looking anything like a joke. A sarcastic rebuttal to criticism is not a joke. And yet you are still hearing it to this day. KURTZ: All right. Let's move now to Kavanaugh nomination. A number of women, journalists and others, have come out with their own stories about sexual assault. And Kellyanne Conway on CNN this morning had this to say. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KELLYANNE CONWAY, COUNSELOR TO PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I feel very empathetic frankly for victims of sexual assault and sexual harassment and rape. I am the victim of sexual assault. I don't expect Judge Kavanaugh or Jake Tapper or Jeff Flake or anybody to be held responsible for that. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Does it have an impact for the White House counselor to come out and say that on national television? HUME: I think so. Look, the underlying thing with that is this stuff happens. And it happens a lot more than we might imagine. I think that's true. I think it's disturbing. On the other hand, consider the moment which Jeff Flake was subjected to. He's standing in an elevator. He has announced his intention to vote for the nominee. And there was a woman who said she was the victim of sexual assault and she may well have been. And she is screaming at him. KURTZ: The cameras are rolling. HUME: The cameras are rolling. She is screaming at him that his vote to confirm Kavanaugh is telling her that she doesn't matter. I understand the woman's emotion. But that's utter nonsense. There is too much of that flying around. As if the fact that this thing happened validates every claim that it happened. We have seen too many examples, "Rolling Stone," "UVA" -- KURTZ: I was about to bring that. You went to the university -- HUME: I did. KURTZ: And you were sceptical of that false, an utterly bogus "Rolling Stone" piece about gang rape at fraternity. HUME: Right. KURTZ: So, without in any way suggesting, implying or insinuating that Christine Ford wasn't telling the truth, as she remembers it, do you think many in the media refuse to consider the idea that a man might be falsely accused? HUME: I think that's what undergird all the grumbling about his anger performance and his evident disrespect for the Senate panel, particularly the Democrats to whom he direct most of his fire, but he did speak about the whole thing being a circus. KURTZ: Including the media. He said breathlessly reported -- HUME: Indeed. And I think that represents a failure to empathize with him. How would you react if you are sitting there accused of being evil and committing the most terrible sex crimes in an open forum without corroboration? In fact, if you are innocent, you are going to be enraged. And he was. And I think -- so I think this is kind of one-for- one match between her emotional anguish -- KURTZ: Yes. HUME: -- and his anger. KURTZ: You said on the air during the hearing that you felt that Christine Ford was a sympathetic witness. HUME: I did. KURTZ: But you also took issue, for example, "The New Republic" and many others, saying that Kavanaugh's strategy was is to be mad as hell. HUME: Yeah. Look, I don't think there is any reason to be cynical about either of these people. To believe that everything is a strategy or strategy. If we have evidence of that, fine, let's see it. Otherwise, I think, you know, there is no reason not to believe that these are heartfelt reactions. She obviously was in anguish telling this story which has, you know, bothered her for such a long time. The fact that -- and I think that -- I would say she is credible in the sense that I think she believes it. KURTZ: Yeah. HUME: And I think she is sincere about it. KURTZ: Yeah. HUME: That doesn't mean her recollection is correct. KURTZ: And the coverage of Kavanaugh -- HUME: And the coverage of Kavanaugh was emotional. And I think that if you believe that he believes he's innocent, you would find it understandable. KURTZ: Yeah, unfortunately the coverage -- (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: -- too partisan and very personal. Brit Hume, great to see you as always. HUME: Thank you, Howard. KURTZ: Thanks so much. Coming up, the president's former campaign manager on the coverage of the Kavanaugh battle and his former boss, Corey Lewandowski, is standing by. HOWARD KURTZ, MEDIA BUZZ, ANCHOR: Joining us from Manchester, the response to the media coverage of Brett Kavanaugh and the president is Corey Lewandowski, Donald Trump's former campaign manager, now Vice- President Pence's Great America PAC. And, Corey, the president resisted the Democratic demands for an FBI probe with the Kavanaugh allegations, but changed his mind to order the investigation after Republican Senator Jeff Flake, as you've known, and a couple colleagues essentially threatened to block the thing. The media is painting this as a kind of a victory for the anti-Kavanaugh forces, is it? COREY LEWANDOWSKI, DONALD TRUMP'S FORMER CAMPAIGN MANAGER: No, this isn't a victory for anybody. Look, I don't think anybody is going to come out of this victorious. But what the president wants to make sure is that when the Senate has all the information in front of them, whether it is provided by Judge Kavanaugh, Dr. Ford, or now from the FBI, that they will make a decision based on the totality of the information they have. And I think once they see all of that, the Senate is going to vote to elevate Judge Kavanaugh to Justice Kavanaugh, and make him the next member of the Supreme Court. KURTZ: Why didn't the president make that decision earlier until before he was sort of pushed into a corner by Flake and company? LEWANDOWSKI: Well, I think what you saw, Howie, was the compelling testimony that took place on Thursday on both sides of this, both from Dr. Ford and from Judge Kavanaugh, allowed him to make sure that what the Democrats asked for, they were given, so that this process is fair and equitable. I don't know what information the FBI thinks they are going to obtain or what the Democratic senators think the FBI's 302s are going to give them, but they will have no excuses after they have the opportunity to read those reports from the FBI not to support Judge Kavanaugh, unless they want to play strictly partisan politics, which is what this has -- this has evolved into. KURTZ: Corey, at his news conference the other day, the one that went on for about an hour and a half, the president was asked rather personal questions about reports from CNN and CBS about his own experiences in this area. Let me play a sound bite for you. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Please go ahead, go ahead. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How did those impact your opinions on the allegations? TRUMP: Well, it does impact my opinion. You know what? Because I have had a lot of false charges made against me. So you say does it doesn't affect me in terms of my thinking with respect to Judge Kavanaugh, absolutely. Because I've had it many times. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Corey, I thought that was a pretty candid answer on the president's part saying that you can't separate what he views as false sexual misconduct allegations against him, from his view of the Kavanaugh case. And it has led to a lot of media criticism that he always seems to side with the men in these kinds of cases. LEWANDOWSKI: Yeah, Howie, but he also said, he's been on the record that he thought the testimony that Dr. Kavanaugh gave was very compelling... KURTZ: Dr. Ford, you mean. LEWANDOWSKI: I'm sorry, Dr. Ford gave was very compelling. KURTZ: Yeah. LEWANDOWSKI: It was very much in line with what she believed happened, and he was very moved by that. He has been clear about that. So, look, I think this is the media trying to hone in on one thing and not looking at everything that the president said about this. And it's the president's decision to make sure the FBI was involved in this, so that they can clear Judge Kavanaugh of these charges or at least get to the bottom of it. And that's what this president has done. But you have to remember, everybody comes to situations with their own personal experience behind them. And to think it hasn't impacted him, knowing he has been accused of things similar in the past that we now know have no basis and no merit is of course weighing on him. That's why he moved forward with the FBI's investigation. And that's why he has done that at his request. And I think what you will find is that Judge Kavanaugh is going to have his final arbitration in front of the U.S. Senate where he'll be confirmed the next Justice of the Supreme Court. KURTZ: As a brief aside, the president doesn't do have many of those long solo news conferences. You think he should do more? LEWANDOWSKI: I love when the president goes directly to the American people, bypasses the media, bypasses the fake news. I love when he does it. I think if he did those on a regular basis, look, the American people are riveted by listening to this president. He is a person who speaks candidly, boldly, and pushes back when questions are unfair. I like how he does it. Howie, I wrote this book on Let Trump be Trump. And I love it. KURTZ: All right. I don't think he is totally bypassing the news because he is taking questions from journalists, which I happen to think is a good thing. So, overall, do you think the media have been more sympathetic to Christine Ford and her very emotional account before the Senate than to Brett Kavanaugh who also was very emotional, who some said came across as very angry? But after all, he's defending himself and his family against what he sees as unjustified charges. LEWANDOWSKI: You know, I think the media is in a very difficult spot. And I think if the media would stop making the news and simply reporting the news, the American people would have a higher faith and confidence in what they're hearing everyday. KURTZ: Hold on. How are the media making news? What are you referring to? LEWANDOWSKI: Well, what they do -- you know, I have seen multiple feeds on Twitter, from outlets that say Brett Kavanaugh was angry. And look, USA Today editorial said potentially he should not be coaching girls' basketball anymore, and they had to change that. KURTZ: Yeah. LEWANDOWSKI: That's disgusting. That's a disgusting display. KURTZ: That's awful. LEWANDOWSKI: That's making the news, and not reporting the news. You know, this is a man who for years has coached his daughters' and his friends' basketball program. And all of a sudden, USA Today says that he should be off the court until this is all resolved? Can you imagine for one second they said about -- that about Al Frank or some other Democrat? Of course not, that's a liberal bias the American people are sick of. KURTZ: Yeah, well, it was a column that was absolutely over the line and I'm glad that the USA Today corrected it. But I agree with you on this point. So, now, we hear many pundits saying you know, look, Judge Kavanaugh is very likely to be convicted. But even if he is, they say, there is going to be a shadow over him on the court because of his -- what they say an angry performance. And it is going to hurt the Republican Party in the midterms because the GOP is associated -- will be responsible for putting Kavanaugh on the high court. Your thoughts. LEWANDOWSKI: I don't believe that. I actually think this is an issue that unites the Republicans and independents across the country. This man has clearly been impugned. His reputation, not just his, but his family's, has obviously been attacked. And the testimony that he provided, which I thought was the most compelling, was when he talked about his 10-year-old daughter asking for a prayer for Dr. Ford. That was so compelling. That should tell you about the character of this man who raised his children to do what the right thing to do is here. And I think Republicans or the Establishment Republicans, what they are well known to be, or the Trump Republicans are unified in their support saying we want to see Brett Kavanaugh confirmed. And that is driving them now. That's energizing them to show up in just over five weeks to show up on Election Day. KURTZ: Yeah, that was a very touching moment. Ad I think anybody would choke up about that point, talking about their young children. Corey Lewandowski, thanks so much for joining us this Sunday. LEWANDOWSKI: Thank you, Howie. KURTZ: We appreciate it. Ahead, a Trump supporter sues MSNBC Joy Reid for defaming her by accusing her of using a racial slur. But first, Martha MacCallum on her interview with Brett Kavanaugh on how she tried to push him off his talking points. KURTZ: It's absolutely unheard of for a Supreme Court nominee to break his silence in a television interview. But that's what happened when Brett Kavanaugh sat down with Fox's Martha MacCallum. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARTHA MACCALLUM, THE STORY, ANCHOR: So where do you think this is coming from, why would she make this up? BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT NOMINEE: What I know is the truth. And the truth is I've never sexually assaulted anyone in high school or otherwise. MACCALLUM: Did you ever participate in or were you ever aware of any gang rape that happened at a party that you attended? KAVANAUGH: That's totally false and outrageous. I've never have done any such thing or known of any such thing. MACCALLUM: Are you saying that through all these years are in question, you were a virgin? KAVANAUGH: That's correct. MACCALLUM: Never had sexual interest course with anyone in high school? KAVANAUGH: Correct. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: I spoke to the anchor of The Story, which airs weeknights at 7 Eastern from New York. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Martha MacCallum, welcome. MACCALLUM: Good to be with you, Howie. KURTZ: When your interview with Brett Kavanaugh was announced, some so- called media critics and others said in advance oh, it's going to be an infomercial, oh, it's all going to be softballs. What do you make of that dismissive attitude? MACCALLUM: Right. I mean, it's always dangerous to judge what happens in the news before it happens, don't you? I mean, I find that really surprising that anybody who calls themselves a journalist or even media analyst would be so quick to jump the gun before the actual event. KURTZ: Unlike the emotional or sometimes angry Brett Kavanaugh we saw at the hearing, when he sat down with you, a lot of journalists pointed out he seemed cautious, over rehearsed, kind of sticking to talking points, saying 20 times I want a fair process. Were you conscious of that? MACCALLUM: Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, it was very clear to me that he and his wife, they were understandably nervous and uptight about this. They obviously talked about you know the lines that he wanted to remember to say and to hammer home as anybody does when you know sort of going into a difficult situation like that. I felt he was simmering beneath the surface. And it was almost as if he had a cork in the top. But it was very clear there was a lot of emotion going on. And I think when we saw him coming to that hearing this week it was clear the cork had popped, and he was tired of sticking to any sort of talking points. And he knew how important it was for him to fully express himself. And I think -- and I think looking back on it, he probably looks back on Monday as you know sort of an enlightening experience in terms of how he needed to express himself if he really wanted to be convincing. KURTZ: Yeah, it was fascinating. MACCALLUM: It turned out, yeah. KURTZ: You could sense the tension underneath. Here is what everybody wants to know. Were you surprised when Judge Kavanaugh volunteered that he didn't have sexual intercourse until many years after high school. MACCALLUM: You know, one of the most interesting things about that is that that came after -- I went through all three different allegations with him, the woman that we now know as Julie Swetnick, Debra Ramirez and also Dr. Ford. We didn't know her name at that point. KURTZ: Right. MACCALLUM: But that allegation was out there already. And that was the point when I asked him about that, about the gang rape allegations, the train, him being in the hallway standing in line to participate in something like this. That was when he was extremely emotional and that launched him into this alibi essentially of saying that wasn't me. I would never do that. In fact, I never had sex all through high school and into many, many years after that. So, you know, that was the specific reference to that last allegation, which clearly, he thought it was so important. KURTZ: Right. Since at the time that you sat down, we didn't know Julie Swetnick, we didn't know the details of what she was going to say in her statement, why did you decide to include that, because you knew it would be bubbling up afterwards? MACCALLUM: You know what, I didn't necessarily know it would bubble up afterwards. But it was well out there in the public domain and people were discussing it. And I wanted to give him an opportunity to respond to it. And I'm glad I did, because there was a name attached to it within 48 hours after that. You know, that was one -- that's one of the trickiest things obviously in covering these stories, because there are so many wild allegations out there. And we saw another allegation that came out of Rhode Island, which was then shot down by the person who presented it in the first place. KURTZ: Right. MACCALLUM: So, we, as reporters, obviously have to very careful with these things. I put it out there, it was in the public domain, and I asked him to respond based on what we knew at the time. KURTZ: Right. You tried to get Kavanaugh to talk about the motivations of his accusers, The New Yorkers journalism and publishing the allegations, Deborah Ramirez, and he continually deflected it. Were you conscious of that? MACCALLUM: Absolutely. KURTZ: Was it frustrating at all that he wouldn't go there? MACCALLUM: It was frustrating because I see -- you know, I could sense in him he was extremely frustrated about what he saw, the powers behind all of this. And it is clear if you're saying he said I didn't do any of these things. And he is looking at me saying, you know, I didn't do this. I said to him, where do you think this is coming from? What do you think is behind this? KURTZ: Logical question. MACCALLUM: And he said I don't know. But by the time -- between Monday and when we saw the hearing later in the week, he clearly had decided that there was no reason for him to hold back on that. KURTZ: And just briefly, given you knew he had the only interview given the huge stakes with the Supreme Court seen in the balance, did you feel a lot of pressure? MACCALLUM: Absolutely, absolutely. And you know, as I said, we had put in a request for him some time ago. Supreme Court nominees do not do interviews. They speak -- they do interviews when they speak with senators on the Hill. And it was clearly a unique situation. And when they did --- you know, give us the go ahead that he wanted to sit down... KURTZ: Right. MACCALLUM: I did feel a big responsibility to the public and also to him. And I felt it was very important to get those allegations out in front specifically as difficult as some of them were to talk about in front of him and his wife. But I felt it was important for the American public to watch his response to them and to start to gauge what they thought and see how they judge his responses. KURTZ: Right. Well, the New York Times among others said you delivered a tough round of questions. Martha MacCallum, thanks so much for sitting down with us. MACCALLUM: Thank you, Howie. KURTZ: After the break, President Trump keeps swiping at the press, but also says a few nice things at that marathon news conference. We'll break it down. KURTZ: President Trump had a lot to say about the media at the 80-minute U.N. news conference. Reporters such as CBS Weija Jiang, as I alluded to earlier, tried to personalize the sexual misconduct allegations against Brett Kavanaugh. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WEIJA JIANG, CBS REPORTER: How are your personal experiences being accused by more than... TRUMP: I have been accused. I have been accused false accusations. JIANG: Right. TRUMP: Excuse me, I've been accused. And I was accused by I believe it was four women. You can check with Sean Hannity, you can check with Fox because they covered it very strongly. Excuse me, I was accused by four or five women who got paid a lot of money to make up stories about me. We caught them and the mainstream media refused to put it on television. The next day, I picked up the papers, there wasn't one word about it. The next day, I watched ABC News, I watched NBC, I watched CBS. I didn't watch CNN, but next time I will watch. I watched everything. There wasn't one story other than Fox. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Well, CBS, ABC, and the New York Times and the Washington Post did report the following, although not always quickly in a big way. Attorney Lisa Bloom said she lined up hundreds of thousands of dollars from donors to potentially compensate four Trump accusers she was representing for relocation and security expenses, not to make up stories about him, also money wound up being returned. We found no reports on this by NBC or CNN. The president was clearly having a good time at the press. As you are seeing, he called on his biggest nemesis in the press corps, CNN Jim Acosta, and even had this to say about the failing New York Times. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: The Times, I think they are going to endorse me. I think that ABC -- well, Fox, I like Fox, I really do. But I think ABC, CBS, NBC, the Times, they are all going to endorse me, because if they don't, they will go out of business. Can you imagine if you didn't have me? (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Well, first networks don't endorse candidates. Second, the Times is -- how shall I say this? It's extremely unlikely to take back Trump. And while they're not going out of business without him, the truth is he is boosting everyone's ratings and circulation. And one other presidential point about the Times' front page coverage of him. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Now, I think I average about three or four a day, right. And the three or four, they're all negative. No matter what I do, they're negative. But you know what, that's OK. I still love the paper. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Well, I have been telling you it's a love-hate relationship. This is what I've said in my book. As for the mockery over the president calling on a Kurdish reporter and calling him Mr. Kurd, calm down, he was kidding. And the reporter loved it. Still the come, a lawsuit against MSNBC's Joy Reid over a racial slur. And Bill Cosby behind bars, his spokesman is blaming the racist media. KURTZ: Bill Cosby is in state prison now, serving a 3- to 10-year sentence. And I don't feel a twinge of sympathy for him, even though I love his comedy while I was growing up, given all the women's lives he ruined. His spokesman Andrew White is blaming a racist and sexist trial and a racist and sexist media. Sorry, Cosby was found guilty based on the evidence in the Andrea Constand case. And at the sentencing, he didn't utter a single word of remorse. MSNBC's Joy Reid has been sued for defamation by a California woman named Roslyn La Liberte, who was captured in a viral photo wearing a Make America Great Again hat in what looked like a heated debate with a teenaged boy. You see that moment and tweeted apology from Mrs. Reid said it appears I got this wrong. My apologies for Mrs. La Liberte Reid and Joseph. Now, Reid has made no public comment, had retweeted that the woman had yelled at 14- year-old Joseph Luevanos and called him a dirty Mexican. In fact, Joseph was born in this country, says he appreciated their talk, and that everything was civil. And the video shows them hugging at the end. Why would Joy Reid who has apologized also for hateful postings a decade ago, make this baseless charge in the first place? That's it for this edition of Media Buzz. I'm Howard Kurtz. This is the most of emotional show we have ever had, such an emotional topic as the Kavanaugh hearings. Check out my Podcast, MediaBuzz Meter. We kick around today's five most important or interesting stories. You can subscribe at Apple iTunes or Google Play, or FoxNewsPodcast.com. Continue the conversation on Twitter, @howardkurtz. Check out our Facebook page. We post our videos and columns. I'm out of time. See you next Sunday with the latest buzz. Load-Date: October 1, 2018 End of Document Kavanaugh Nomination Clears Senate Judiciary Committee; The Democrats' Delay Tactics; The Senate Judiciary Committee, with President Trump Agreeing, Agreed to the Request of Some Lawmakers to Have an FBI Investigation on Judge Kavanaugh and His Accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, but only Limited to Dr. Ford's Claims and Not to Other Accusers Who Have Suddenly Popped Out in the Picture; Critics are Now Saying that the Democrats Used Dr. Ford as a Pawn to Intentionally Delay more the Confirmation of Judge Kavanaugh into the Supreme Court Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 28, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7962 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Tammy Bruce, Sara Carter, Jason Chaffetz, Matt Schlapp, Ed Henry, Gregg Jarrett, Kristin Fisher Guests: Pam Bondi, Victoria Toensing Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Welcome to HANNITY this Friday night. This is a FOX News alert. Judge Kavanaugh's nomination, well, it did just pass its first hurdle today. It cleared the Senate Judiciary Committee on a party line vote. But tonight, everything is literally hanging in the balance. I'm going to explain in detail what is really going on here. There's a lot more than meets the eye. We'll break it all down in the course of this hour. But, first, Judge Kavanaugh's nomination will remain in limbo for the next few days as Republican Senator Jeff Flake caved to pressure from the left and called for an FBI investigation at the last minute to check Professor Ford's accusations. Meanwhile, fence sitting senators, Lisa Murkowski and Senator Susan Collins, they all supported this measure. So here we are. One week delay so that the FBI can perform a background check on an allegation without a date, a time, a location or any corroborating evidence of any kind. This is yet another political stall tactic from the Democrats and the left, and the coming week is going to be, I predict, absolute hell. And as Judge Kavanaugh said, the Democrats are on a mission to search, destroy, and expect more of these unfounded allegations to magically surface between now and the time we get that FBI report. Republicans fell right into the trap. And I'll explain why this FBI investigation is absolutely meaningless anyway. Expect more delays, expect more demands, more investigations, more delays. They wanted to stop Judge Kavanaugh from day one. We've got the evidence. Now, they're willing to abandon key foundational, core human rights that we all believe in -- or at least we should -- due process, the presumption of innocence, burden of proof, to gain a political advantage. If they succeed, welcome to the all new U.S. of A. Guilt by accusation, a new constitution, you're guilty until you prove yourself innocent. This is a very scary precedent. Wake up, America. Thirty-nine days from tonight. A lot is at stake. All right. It's time for our Friday breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Yesterday, under oath, Judge Brett Kavanaugh defended his good name, reputation, in the strongest terms possible. Now, he brought a level of seriousness, commonsense, clarity that has been absolutely missing from his confirmation process since the very beginning. Let's remind you. Take a watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUDGE BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE NOMINEE: This confirmation process has become a national disgrace. The Constitution gives the Senate an important role in the confirmation process. But you have replaced advice and consent with search and destroy. This has destroyed my family and my good name. A good name built up through decades of very hard work and public service at the highest levels of the American government. This is a circus. The consequences will extend long past my nomination. The consequences will be with us for decades. I will not be intimidated into withdrawing from this process. You've tried hard. You've given it your all. No one can question your effort. But your coordinated and well-funded effort to destroy my good name and destroy my family will not drive me out. I am innocent of this charge. I intend no ill will to Dr. Ford and her family. The other night, Ashley and my daughter Liza said their prayers. And little Liza, all 10 years old -- said to Ashley, we should pray for the woman. A lot of wisdom from a 10-year-old. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: A lot of wisdom from a 10-year-old. The president, he has no second thoughts about the man he chose to be the next United States Supreme Court justice. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REPORTER: What did you think of Dr. Ford's testimony when you heard that? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I thought her testimony was very compelling, and she looks like a very fine woman to me. A very fine woman. And I thought that Brett's testimony, likewise, was really something that I haven't seen before. It was incredible. It was an incredible moment I think in the history of our country. I just want to it work out well for the country. If that happens, I'm happy. REPORTER: Have you thought about a replacement for Judge Kavanaugh? TRUMP: Not even a little bit. Not even a little bit. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And today, Senator Jeff Flake, he casts the deciding vote to push Judge Kavanaugh's nomination out of the Judiciary Committee, but, of course, it came with his drama and a condition, a week-long delay so that the FBI could look into the allegations made by Professor Ford against Judge Kavanaugh. Of course, Republicans predictably caved and Flake flaked in a big way and just bought the Democrats more time to seek, search, destroy, and bludgeon, getting a delay under the guise of an FBI investigation. It was their number one goal, their number one talking point. Weren't they paying attention? There's a reason they said it again and again and again and again yesterday and today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D), CALIFORNIA: Each of these allegations should be investigated by the FBI. SEN. PATRICK LEAHY (D), VERMONT: You want to reach the truth? The easy way to do that, ask the FBI to investigate. SEN. DICK DURBIN (D), ILLINOIS: Judge Kavanaugh, if he truly believes there's no evidence, no witnesses that can prove their case, should be joining us in demanding a thorough FBI investigation. SEN. CHRIS COONS (D), DELAWARE: What I have struggled with, Judge Kavanaugh, is the absence of a fair federal law enforcement-driven, nonpartisan process. SEN. AMY KLOBUCHAR (D), MINNESOTA: Why don't you just ask the president? Dr. Ford can't do this. We clearly haven't been able to do this. Just ask the president to reopen the FBI investigation. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: Are you willing to ask the White House to authorize the FBI to investigate the claims that have been made against you? SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: All the Democrats on this committee are requesting an FBI investigation because you did say all we have to do is ask. The implication being that if we ask, an investigation will happen and it certainly has not happened. SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D), RHODE ISLAND: Never in the history of background investigations has an investigation not been pursued when new, credible, derogatory information was brought forward about the nominee or the candidate. SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: It's up to the president of the United States and his failure to ask for an FBI investigation in my view is tantamount to a cover-up. SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: That is a powerful difference between a committee investigation and an FBI agent interviewing people, chasing after facts, pulling on the loose threads that have been evidenced in Judge Kavanaugh's record. LEAHY: FBI investigation. DURBIN: Turn over the facts we know to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. WHITEHOUSE: FBI background investigation. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Sounds like a talking point. By the way, the seventh investigation into Judge Kavanaugh, the president tweeted out, has already begun tonight. We begin with the question for Senators Jeff Flake, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Joe Manchin -- do you think the Democrats that have been against Judge Kavanaugh, do you think they're going to call for an FBI investigation into their DNC deputy chair, the number two guy at the DNC, Keith Ellison? Well, he's been accused of literally physically abusing his ex-girlfriend repeatedly and dragging her violently through the house and battering her emotionally, psychologically, repeatedly. Now if the Senate Democrats on the judiciary committee, if you're serious about this topic and allegations -- well, where are the calls for an FBI investigation into that man, Keith Ellison? This is a case we actually have real evidence now. Doctors reports, text messages, and an actual tape of one incident happening. Then there's Bill Clinton. Have any of you people on the Senate Judiciary Committee demanding an investigation, where's the FBI investigation into Juanita Broaddrick's credible, serious allegations? She told somebody 30 minutes after the rape happened, she says. Did they ever call any of these people for an investigation for Juanita or for that matter, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey or anybody? No. They stood by the Clintons. Did their allegations not matter? Senator Dianne Feinstein, did it matter? Because these are women coming out against the Democrat, or is this politics to you? How many Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee will, tonight, demand FBI investigations into these people? Keith Ellison was last month. And Juanita Broaddrick, about the same time difference. All politics. Now, you would think the topic as serious as this -- and it is serious. And it is a problem across the country in many places, you think a topic this serious would transcend politics, that this wouldn't be Republican, Democrat, conservative or liberal. You think one time we could just do what's right collectively? Nope. This is selective moral outrage, as usual, politics as usual. Except this time it's sad. This time, it's even dangerous. Plus, you know, I want you to take a step back tonight. Once again, remember what we're talking about in this specific case. Here is what this is really all about. Now, the left, they've been asking for two days and running, all the Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee, they want a background check on Professor Ford's charges dating back 36 years ago for when both Professor Ford and Judge Kavanaugh were in high school. Ford doesn't remember a date, day of the week, location, how she got to or from the party where the alleged crime took place. She has no corroborating evidence. Now, think about this. Really think deeply about this. They want an FBI investigation. What is the FBI -- they can't investigate anything forensically. Think about this. I watch cold cases, the FBI cold case division, one of the best in the world. They're amazing, especially with new technology and techniques. We know that all four witnesses that Ford listed to corroborate her claims, they all have denied what she is alleging. All four is sworn statements under penalty of felony, including Professor Ford's long time friend Leland Keyser. Her attorney released a statement. It reads, quote: Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh, has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present with or without Dr. Ford. Now, the FBI, they're not performing a criminal investigation. They told us that two weeks ago. They told us they will reach no conclusion in this. No charges will be filed. No recommendations will be made. That is the process. The FBI will simply interview the same witnesses like the Senate Judiciary Investigative Committee already interviewed. Look into the same claims. Write a report. The only possibility in this case is that one of the four people would reverse himself or herself. And if they did, they'd be admitting they committed a felony. As he said many times, Judge Kavanaugh, he's happy to comply. He released a statement. It reads, quote: Throughout this process, I have been interviewed by the FBI. I have done a number of background calls directly with the Senate. And yesterday, I answered questions under oath about every topic the senators and their counsel asked me. I have done everything they have requested and will continue to cooperate. Now, Mark Judge is the only alleged firsthand witness. Remember, Professor Ford says he was in the room at the time. He also plans to fully cooperate with an investigation and he is denying Professor Ford's accusations as the one person that would be an eyewitness to this. And let's not forget the Democrats' beloved Joe Biden, remember back in 1991 during the Clarence Thomas confirmation, he said that FBI background checks are actually worthless. You don't even want one. But, of course, that was then. This is now. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) THEN-SENATOR JOE BIDEN (D), DELAWARE: The next person who refers to an FBI report as being worth anything obviously doesn't understand anything. FBI explicitly does not in this or any other case reach a conclusion. Period. Period. Judge, there is no reason why you should know this. The reason we cannot rely on the FBI report, you wouldn't like it if we did, because it is inconclusive. They say he said, she said and they said. Period. So when people wave an FBI report before you, understand, they do not, they do not, they do not reach conclusions. They do not make, as my friend points out more adequately, they do not make recommendations. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: period. They do not. They do not. They do not reach conclusions or make recommendations. Now, none of this matters to the Democrats now. By the way, same system is in place. They obviously are not seeking the truth -- equal justice, equal application of our laws. From day one, no matter what, remember, just hours after Judge Kavanaugh's nomination was announced in July, watch the Democrats. They had already made up their mind. It was just a matter of how they bludgeoned him. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: For every American who cares about women's health, about protections for people with preexisting conditions, about civil rights, labor rights, LGBTQ rights, environmental rights, now is the time to fight. Now. LEAHY: I'm going to withhold my consent for this nominee or any other nominee. COONS: President Trump could have nominated someone last night not off a narrow list of the pre-cleared, preapproved by far right organizations like the Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society. We could be here today discussing a nominee who was potentially someone with a wide open record, someone who might command a bipartisan majority. WHITEHOUSE: We are going to look into what went on and what assurances were made that brought this name to the top of the list. HIRONO: Judge Kavanaugh does not, should not, get the benefit of the doubt. He bears the burden of proof to convince all of us and the American people that he can indeed be a fair and objective justice. BLUMENTHAL: I'm here with sadness to say Judge Kavanaugh, you don't belong in this building as a justice. Judge Kavanaugh, you should not be serving in this building as a Supreme Court justice. Judge Kavanaugh is your worst nightmare. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Should any of us be surprised for what has been unfolding here? Remember, three weeks ago, Kavanaugh's nomination looked pretty certain, despite so many embarrassing theatrics by people like Cory "Spartacus" Booker, and Senate Democrats, while Kavanaugh sailed through his hearings, unscathed. At the 11th hour, what did Dianne Feinstein do? She drops a bomb. An anonymous sexual assault allegation. This hadn't happened in 40 years in this man's adult life until, what, 12 days ago. She made no mention of this allegation during her lengthy private meetings with Kavanaugh. She made no mention during his public hearing. She had the information back in July. Now, remember, Professor Ford said she didn't want to go public. Her confidentiality privacy could have been protected. But that's not how it went down. Now, there were no calls for an FBI investigation then. No inquiries made back in July. In fact, these claims were not sent to any law enforcement body for weeks. They sat on it. And come to find out at the very same time, yes, the ranking member, Dianne Feinstein, was actually leading and interviewing Judge Kavanaugh alone, her office was secretly advising Professor Ford on what attorneys to hire. She ended up hiring a pretty radical left attorney that said many terrible things about Paula Jones and defended the creep Al Franken. Now, Dianne Feinstein should be ashamed of herself. These dirty political tactics surrounding an alleged sexual assault victim and a Supreme Court nominee, what we have witnessed is not only disgusting and repulsive, it is beneath the office she serves. Every good, decent Californian should be appalled by the actions of this unethical senator. After pronouncing the anonymous allegation against Kavanaugh, Professor Ford's name and story, well, it quickly leaked to the press. She felt like she was going to tell the story herself. Up until that point, there were only two parties who knew about Professor Ford's allegation, congressional Democrats and Professor Ford herself. You do the math. It's pretty obvious. It was clearly, you have an alleged survivor of sexual assault, despite what she said for her wishes to remain private. Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, he's blaming Professor Ford tonight for the leak. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WHITEHOUSE: The best I can tell, Dr. Ford had told sufficient people in her circle who might have told others that press in California began to ask her questions and follow her around. And the story then came through "The Washington Post" where she had originally -- Dr. Ford had originally, as she testified yesterday, left a tip on the hot line and the reporter followed up with her ultimately. So, as best I can tell, that's how it all became public, through those two avenues. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: This is so sad for a Democratic Party. There's no room for moderates in this party. No Scoop Jacksons. No Joe Liebermans anymore. Their behavior is now a national embarrassment. But they're not even embarrassed. Now, first, they use a serious claim of sexual misconduct as a political pawn. Then they proceed to smear, slander, besmirch the good name, reputation, character of Judge Kavanaugh without any corroborating evidence, without any due process. No presumption of innocence. They accuse a good person with a 36-year amazing track record of pretty much being a monster. Some call him evil. Some compare him to Bill Cosby. They push wild unsubstantiated claims about gang rape, fights on boats in Rhode Island where he's never been, insane accusations from Colorado. They tell American voters that Kavanaugh will lead to the deaths of millions of people. And today, without missing a beat, after being dressed down by Kavanaugh's strong testimony, they're right back to the same tactics today. And as per usual, your mainstream media, they're always there, every step of the way, backing them up. The folks at fake news CNN, conspiracy TV MSNBC, they don't believe in due process or the presumption of innocence. You know, they're really living in their alternative reality. Truth, commonsense, common decency, replaced with just their feelings, anger, emotion and hatred of all things Donald Trump. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All afternoon the little lies, lying over and over about his yearbook page make absolutely no sense. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I do know if he gets to the Supreme Court, a good chunk of this country's going to think somebody who got away with sexual assault is sitting on the Supreme Court. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What we saw yesterday was, in many ways, the victory of tribalism. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As much of his personal integrity has been called into question in this process, the integrity of the court will be called into question if he is confirmed. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I thought it was a temper tantrum. He was angry and belligerent. It was kind of scary. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They're worried white people are going to lose their power. They don't care if she's lying or she's not lying or he's lying. They just want to hold on to their power. Pretty soon, we'll be like South Africa, apartheid, where 10 percent of white people are running the country. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, I suspect this coming week, as the FBI performs yet this seventh background check on judge Kavanaugh, Democrats, their friends on the left, they will do anything and everything to once again destroy the life of Brett Kavanaugh. They have some plan. They will be orchestrating it. My warning, don't be shocked. Now, this is sadly who they now are. The party of guilt by accusation, no presumption of innocence, no benefit of the doubt. And, by the way, you're guilty until you prove your innocence. And if you need to make up unsubstantiated lies, 39 days out of an election, well, if you got to, you just got to do what you got to do. This is now the status quo. This is what I warn you about every two and four years. This is what I warned you about every time a Supreme Court nominee is appointed by a Republican president. Last week, we saw a preview of coming attractions. They pushed unsubstantiated claims from one who thinks Kavanaugh may have exposed himself. Remember that, at a drunken college party? Well, she wasn't even totally sure that Kavanaugh was the perpetrator. Remember she called around, according to "The New York Times," to friends that went to Yale, asking them, do you remember the incident? I'm not sure. She even acknowledges she had memory gaps from the evening. "New York Times" refused to publish that story. It still got out there with "The New Yorker." They were saying there was a lack of evidence. We also saw an accusation pushed by, there he is, the now new face of the Democratic Party with Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi, attorney Michael Avenatti. He wants to run for president. And, of course, about the scheme to literally drug and gang rape women all over Washington, D.C. Now, believe it or not, this week is about to get worse and even more absurd. But, of course, you got to persevere. This is a fight for the heart and soul of the country. Judge Kavanaugh deserves to be confirmed. Here's what's at stake. If this behavior, if this -- if these tactics, and we get the Republicans racist, sexism, misogynist, homophobic, dirty air, water, kill grandma, hate kids -- if this works in this case, guess what? That will mean the United States Senate will be rewarding this behavior and rights will be shattered. They will repeat these tactics. These smear campaigns, again and again and again -- smear, slander, lies, character assassination, bludgeoning of families, the destruction of fundamental core values just for pure political power and gain. We will never get the presumption of innocence back. Once you give it up. It will be the end of due process in America. Guilt by accusation will rule the day. And, by the way, I'm warning you, nobody is going to be safe. What you're seeing here now with Judge Kavanaugh is only the tip of the iceberg if they're successful. If Republicans don't send the Democrats in this instance a message. And, by the way, if you, the voting public, if you don't show up in 39 days for what I have been telling you is the single most important midterm in your life, you're going to get the government you deserve. You'll get the impeachment. You'll get Obamacare, how's that working out? You'll get open borders, elimination of ICE, their crumbs will be back in politicians' pockets. Think about it for a second. If Judge Kavanaugh is not confirmed, there will literally be a fundamental shift now in America. We might not get it back. Maybe liberals are happy with this particular victory. But maybe next time, it will be somebody on their side of the aisle. Maybe someone in their family. Maybe one of their loved ones. Are we going to become a country of guilty until proven innocent? But that's a pretty scary and horrible place. No presumption of innocence. Here with reaction, FOX News contributor, radio host, Tammy Bruce, FOX News contributor and investigative reporter, Sara Carter, the author of the brand new book, "The Deep State", former chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, FOX News contributor now, Jason Chaffetz. Tammy, you -- what's amazing about you and I have known you many years. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. HANNITY: You used to be the president of the National Organization for Women. BRUCE: Yes. HANNITY: you have been the single most -- one of the most outspoken people on this. Passionate. BRUCE: Look, I spent most of my adult life fighting on these issues for the welfare of women and children. And we've spent certainly generations as women, as a country, to have women be heard, to elevate our lives, to make sure what happens to us matters. And -- HANNITY: By the way, I agree with that. BRUCE: Oh, I know. That's why I'm sitting here. That's why we're friends. And now, we're in the 21st century and women and young people elected to office, a generation that comes after and benefited from all the work that we've done are now burning it to the ground. And they're using that power to destroy people's lives. And this is -- you know, your monologue was fabulous and they're doing all the things you said. But the other thing that's happening is, they are now using all of us as collateral damage. They want votes. They want fund-raisers. They want campaign ads. And the American people that are relying on all senators now simply are going to be ashes on the side of the road, as long as they get what they want. And this is what we have to realize. Whether you're in California or any other state in this country, we've got a group of people, 100 people, in the most revered institution in the history of mankind are now -- have now decided that the sovereign, the citizen, is worth nothing. That they are to be used, whether it's a woman who experienced a sexual assault, a man who has committed his life to public service as a judge, his family, that wife, those two little girls, all of our little girls, all of our lives. I'm not going to enter into the last third of my life, after all the work and none of us who worked through the '80s and '90s to change this should sit by and watch this happen without calling it out and stopping it in November and afterwards to make sure that when Justice Kavanaugh is sitting there, he knows we've got his back and they will not define him or us in this process. HANNITY: You know, Sara, you're an investigative reporter. OK. The FBI is going to do their seventh check. It's going on now, we're told, by the president, who tweeted that out. Seventh check. The FBI, there's no forensics they can check. I hate to admit I watch "Forensic Files" a lot. I watched -- I mean, It's amazing, 35 years later dead case file, they bring it back to life and find the people because of new technology that we have that we can catch killers. It's amazing. There's no place to go look. The only thing the FBI can do is interview the same four people that -- SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Dr. Ford, Sean, hasn't even filed charges in Maryland where this took place. HANNITY: Is that going to happen this weekend? CARTER: We don't know, do we? And now, we're asking the FBI to come in. HANNITY: Is that part of the plan? CARTER: Yes. I wonder. I wonder if that's going to be part of the plan. If the Dems are going to push. Look, the American people are note going to be fooled by this political theater. And Tammy said it best. I was thinking of the exact same term, Tammy. Collateral damage. BRUCE: Yes, right. CARTER: The collateral damage is our justice system, our foundation of our country. It's the American people themselves. BRUCE: Our sons and daughters. CARTER: Judge Kavanaugh -- yes, Judge Kavanaugh and his family. Then Dr. Ford. It's every single one of us. The FBI, Sean, is going to go, they're going to interview these five people who have already, by penalty of perjury, turned in their statements. And then they're going to turn them over to the Senate, all of these interviews, and that's that. They are fooling us. The Dems are lying to the American people. There is no investigation. HANNITY: So, let's go through this. So, Congressman -- by the way, congrats on the success of your book. Under penalty of perjury, the four people gave their statements. So the only thing that can happen when the FBI, they're going to go back and they're going to ask a lot of questions. They're going to find out one of two things. That the people stand by their statement or they committed a felony. That's where we are in this process. What else could they possibly do investigatively? JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, look, the Democrats lost the moral high ground when they hid this material. And then when the Republicans finally had this information, they invited the Democrats to join in the investigation. They didn't even show up at the meeting. And you know what? The United States Senate, they need a civics lesson, because it's not the role of the FBI to do this investigation. It's the role of the United States Senate. And how many senators had Ford and Kavanaugh sitting before them and they had a chance to ask questions, they didn't even ask a question. You know, I am actually very good friends with Jeff Flake. And on a personal level, I really like the guy. But how can you do the same thing-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And Senator Snowflake, that's what I call him. CHAFFETZ: -- how can you go -- how can you look at this person and say, we need more time to investigate? At the same time he asked zero questions of Ford and zero questions of Kavanaugh. That's your opportunity. That's the job of the senators, not some FBI agents doing its seventh background check. BRUCE: What it does, is it gains some at least five days. And what we've seen, of course, in the tail end of the last few days, an accusation that had to be retracted. A completely anonymous accusation that was treated as though it was national news. No name, no address, nothing. We're going to see more of that come up. You're going to see equally outrageous dynamics like with the gang rapes. You're going to see maybe real actual people come up and step up with things that will be eventually proven to not be the case. But it will be a pile on to try to affect the actual vote what will happen. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So it will be -- so they want to delay. BRUCE: That's all they want. HANNITY: They want to delay, delay, delay because they want to get to the midterms and they want to stop the president from fulfilling his constitutional duty. And this is big part of the left campaign. BRUCE: Well, they want to tell their base that they're doing something because they're not doing anything legislatively for the country. So what are they doing now? They're becoming a group of people who are effectively, you know, it's like a riot. It's like a anti-fa manifest as a party. And you wake up every day-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, there's no more moderation in the Democratic Party. BRUCE: It is gone, yes. HANNITY: Sara? CARTER: Yes, absolutely. No, I thought you were going to ask me a question, Sean. No, absolutely. Tammy is right on the button with this one. Look, you're innocent until proven guilty. That is the law. That is how we approach things in this country fairly. That's Lady Liberty. We don't go out and throw out accusations. Look, I feel terrible for Dr. Ford. She obviously believes and maybe something did happen to her. It's not place to judge her. But there is absolutely no evidence. There is no proof. And they will find nothing unless somebody comes forward out of nowhere. And even then, this was 35 years ago. Sean, there has to be a system that we follow. We can't just throw caution to the wind and allow this to go forward. HANNITY: Congressman? CHAFFETZ: Sean, it's the politics of personal destruction. It's a playbook that the Democrats continue to use. Scorched earth. It's resistance movement. They wanted to destroy Kavanaugh. They want to delay this as long as possible, defeat him and drag this country into the doldrums. It is absolutely fundamentally totally wrong and Republicans have got to step up like Lindsey Graham and call it out for what it is and make sure this person is now sitting on the Supreme Court. HANNITY: Lindsey Graham had his finest moment in Congress. There is no -- he gave a great speech today. CHAFFETZ: Yes. BRUCE: I can't believe we're saying that, but I have to tell you, men, bravo, Lindsey Graham. HANNITY: Amazing. All right. We've got a lot more. I will just remind you in 39 days, there's so much at stake. Really, this is the party you now want in power, after what we're witnessing? When we come back, Ed Henry in Washington with a live report. The latest on Kavanaugh's nomination. Also, Matt Schlapp, Pam Bondi and much more to report on this busy breaking news Friday night. HANNITY: All right. Welcome back to Hannity. Joining us with the latest on what lawmakers are saying regarding the status of Judge Kavanaugh's confirmation to the U.S. Supreme Court, he is Fox News chief national correspondent, hates to admit publicly that he's a friend of mine or even likes me in any way. It doesn't mean he agrees with me-- (CROSSTALK) ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF White House CORRESPONDENT: Well, that we even texted this morning. HANNITY: Ed Henry, how are you? HENRY: Good to see you, Sean. President Trump ordering this new FBI probe. He just tweeted a few moments ago, this is now the 7th background check for Judge Kavanaugh in recent years. It does carry some risk because Kavanaugh himself testified yesterday every day is an eternity, so this could open the door to more unverified allegations being lodged. But on the plus side for the president, this could also lock in yes votes from key moderates in both parties and eventually get Kavanaugh confirmed. As long as the FBI does not find evidence to corroborate Dr. Ford's allegations. At the urging of Republicans Jeff Flake, the judiciary panel has now asked the White House to direct the FBI to conduct that new investigation. The president did that. They say it will be limited to current credible allegations. So, mostly just the Dr. Ford matter. And it must be completed one week from today. Except that does not seem good enough for Dr. Ford's attorney who quickly put out a statement, Debra Katz, and that statement praised the Senate for agreeing to the FBI probe but then added, quote, "no artificial limits as to time or scope should be imposed on this investigation." That's raising eyebrows among conservatives who says that just shows they want to keep moving the goal post. But Dr. Ford's team does not run the Senate. This FBI probe could be done quickly. Kavanaugh's friend Mark Judge is already saying he will cooperate. Remember, he has already told the judiciary committee multiple times that he has no recollection of any incident in the early '80s. At least five key moderates say they back this one week investigation. So if the FBI finds nothing but, Kavanaugh would likely get the backing of at least some of moderate Republicans and Democrats like Flake, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Heidi Heitkamp, and Joe Manchin who all said that they want this FBI investigation. Remember, Republican Chairman Chuck Grassley, though, yesterday said that Democrat Diane Feinstein wasted nearly two months by sitting on that original letter from Dr. Ford. Also remember, of course, that tape from 1991 when Joe Biden said FBI investigations ultimately do not usually come to a conclusion. That it will likely be he said versus she said. People at the White House telling me tonight that's what they're hoping for. Because if there's nothing new in this FBI investigation, Sean, they think that Kavanaugh is likely to be confirmed. HANNITY: No conclusions, no recommendations. That's what the Democrats really have planned that has me curious tonight. Thank you, Ed Henry in Washington. Joining us now with reaction, he is the chairman of the American Conservative Union, also a friend of Judge Kavanaugh, Matt Schlapp. And Florida Attorney General, Pam Bondi. Pam, let me start with the law and the investigation. No conclusions, no recommendation. Joe Biden was right in 1991. Here is the question. We don't have a place. We don't have a location. We have Professor Ford naming four people that were at this alleged event. All four people under the penalty of perjury have given sworn statements. Now, beyond asking them the same questions that the Senate judiciary committee investigative team asked, what is -- help me out. Is there any other possible thing that the FBI can do except ask those four people? There's no place to go. What can they do? PAM BONDI, FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Well, and again, like you said, they've already given statements under the penalty of perjury. They're all saying they will talk to the FBI I would deploy countless FBI agents tomorrow morning and get this thing done. HANNITY: Yes. BONDI: Get them locked in on FBI statements. Bring them back to the Senate judiciary committee. Because Sean, I've never in my career as a prosecutor seen anything like this. My job is also to protect the rights of the accused as a prosecutor. And a criminal murder defendant in a courtroom charged with murder would be treated more fairly and with more respect than Brett Kavanaugh was treated by the Senate judiciary committee. And that committee is one of the oldest committees and was formed to handle constitutional issues. So those people need to go back and read the preamble to the Constitution. They need to read the Fifth Amendment, the Sixth Amendment, the rights of the accused. They need to go talk to the ACLU. HANNITY: Yes. BONDI: Because everything about Judge Kavanaugh. He had to come in there as a guilty person and prove his innocence. And I've never seen anything like it in my career. HANNITY: You know, Matt, let me start with something. I have been very critical of Republicans when they don't keep their promises and they don't live up to their word and they do stupid things. To their credit for the most part, because I think today was really dumb on the part of a few. But for the most part, they have handled this with the proper seriousness it deserves. And Professor Ford needed to be heard. I like the president for two weeks he said, I'm going to let the Senate handle this. He made his comments. He stand by the judge. He said nice things about Professor Ford and as much as he seem. Very credible in ways. And which I thought was -- they're treating this with the respect it deserves. But the Democrats, if the FBI can't make conclusions and they can't make recommendations and there's no evidence to look at, it's just the four witnesses again that are already, again, have sworn statements under the threat of perjury, felony. MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: Right. HANNITY: What else is there to do for the FBI? And how long should that take? Why couldn't that be done tomorrow? SCHLAPP: Immediately, the attorney general is exactly right. Send the agents out from one of the California offices and sit down with Mrs. Ford. Look, all this is political cover. I'm not minimizing the fact that these are serious allegations. All I'm saying is that when they opened up the FBI investigation on Clarence Thomas so many years ago, it was just about cover. The Democrats know it. And they thought they had the Republicans by just chiming and ringing this bell. We need to have an FBI, an opening of the FBI check. So, look, we're here. They're going to do it. It will be excruciating for Judge Kavanaugh. I'm sure the Democrats with their coordinated attack will come out with more information about more ridiculousness this week. And I think in the end, the leader, Leader McConnell is going to have to force the vote. These Republicans are going to have to choose. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way, Mitch McConnell very -- everyone has gone -- he's already opened up the debate on the confirmation. SCHLAPP: That's right. HANNITY: Called the vote to order. Nobody objected. Because it's only one person was there. So that will move forward. SCHLAPP: That's right. HANNITY: What about, when you have the attorney, the one attorney for professor Ford, Pam, that didn't believe Paula Jones or think that was that bad. It was only 10 or 12 minutes, she said. And that's not really hostile and hostile work environment. Wow. And then defended Al Franken. That's the one that Diane Feinstein apparently recommended. They're saying they want artificial deadlines here. The FBI should be able to do this, I would imagine, let's say they spend eight hours with every person, send one agent to each person. Two agents to each person. Could be done tomorrow. SCHLAPP: That's right. BONDI: That's what I said. You should deploy all the FBI agents. Go out there. Take these interviews tomorrow morning. I think all these folks want to get it over with. Talk to her friend Leland who I think is going to be the strongest witness for Brett Kavanaugh. And I think these diaries are critically important because they were taken in 1982. It's a miracle he had them, in real-time. And it corroborates what he said. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So the only hope for the Democrats except if they have something else planned, is that under the threat of felony somebody admits, I got it wrong and I committed a felony the last time. Their hope is that one of the four committed a felony. SCHLAPP: This whole party, remember, it never happened. They're not even just saying what she said is wrong. They don't have a recollection of any of it. It's made up of whole cloth. HANNITY: Could we bring up -- are they going to call for an FBI investigation into Keith Ellison and Bill Clinton? (CROSSTALK) SCHLAPP: I don't think they will. BONDI: They better, especially Keith Ellison right now. HANNITY: Diane Feinstein, where's the FBI, your call for an FBI investigation into them? Or is this just politics? (CROSSTALK) BONDI: If she was the prosecutor, Sean, she would be held in contempt at court. HANNITY: Wait a minute, that's not going to happen do you mean? SCHLAPP: It's not going to happen? HANNITY: No. SCHLAPP: Sorry. HANNITY: Speaks volumes, doesn't it? Thank you, both. When we come back, Gregg Jarrett, Victoria Toensing we have a lot more on the Kavanaugh circus as we continue. Stay with us. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Jeff is a wonderful guy. Flake, he's trying to be fair. You know, the three senators who have had concerns are being listened to. It's called democracy. I hope one or two Democrats will come forward and say that this process, while I may not vote for Kavanaugh, is better moving in the right direction. Time will tell. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are senators (Inaudible) at Jeff Flake-- (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: No. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because nobody is mad at him? GRAHAM: Well, listen, if you're mad at him, that's unreasonable. No. Nobody that I know of. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That was Senator Lindsey Graham today earlier today speaking to reporters about the delay of the Senate vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. Here with reaction is former assistant U.S. Attorney, Victoria Toensing, author of the number one bestselling book, "The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump," Fox News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett. You know, I read the headline on your new article on this. Are the attorneys for Ford representing her or the Democrats? I said, all right, Gregg is going to be in trouble for the next 48 hours. But then I read the article. You make some amazing points that nobody knew before. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: People can read it on Foxnews.com. But the point is this. It appears increasingly that Christine Ford, who never wanted to go public, may have been manipulated, exploited, betrayed and victimized by her own attorney. She was shocked yesterday when she learned that all of this could have been avoided. That it could have been a private testimony, in her own home. HANNITY: Wait a minute, she was shocked when that happened. JARRETT: That's right. It turns out that Grassley sent three letters. I provided the letters in a link to my column, in which he offered to fly out staff, do it confidentially, privately, take her testimony. This national disgrace, as Kavanaugh called it, could have been avoided. But I'm wondering whether these lawyers who were recommended by Diane Feinstein-- HANNITY: Hidden. JARRETT: There's a conflict of interest. Whether they never told her about it. And that would be a violation-- HANNITY: Bingo. JARRETT: -- of the code of professional responsibility. I cite the code sections in my column. HANNITY: She was like, you offered that? JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: Thank you. She said thank you to Senator Grassley. JARRETT: Lindsay Graham has called for an investigate eight of these lawyers. Were they acting on behalf of Democrats and not in the best interest of their client? HANNITY: Great find. And Victoria brings up another topic here. That is, if you're going to look into the lawyer Feinstein recommended, of all people, look at the things we've told our audience that she said about Paula Jones, defended Al Franken. That person is not consistent on this issue. She's as inconsistent -- this is political for her. We have a tape of her resisting. Victoria? VICTORIA TOENSING, FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY: I was waiting for the tape, Sean. Listen, there's another scenario that Gregg and I have talked about this issue. Here is the scenario that I see maybe she was lying. Maybe she, Dr. Lord -- Dr. Ford was saying, I'm so surprised. I didn't know. I cannot imagine either one of these lawyers violating the rules so drastically that they didn't show her two letters and one e-mail and saying that the Grassley people would come out to California? So we need to find out. One of the questions I want the FBI to ask is whether anyone told her that the committee was willing to come out and interview her in California. Because-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: She gave us the answer. This is the-- TOENSING: What? HANNITY: Yesterday was very clear. TOENSING: She pretended that she was surprised. But maybe she's just really good at hiding the facts. HANNITY: That seems sincere. All right. Great column. Foxnews.com. Victoria, great to see you. Victoria represents me, if I don't say it, I get excoriated by everybody in the media, every single time. And she comes to my radio Christmas party every year. All right. When we come back, we have some breaking news. Kristen Fisher from Washington. That's next. HANNITY: Joining us now, Fox News Washington correspondent Kristin Fisher. Can I say one thing about your parents? KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, absolutely. HANNITY: Do you mind? FISHER: Have at it. HANNITY: Because I met them in D.C. They're both astronauts. I was stunned. They're wonderful people. I enjoyed meeting your dad. FISHER: My dad loved meeting you. Thanks for letting him sit in the studio. You made his night. HANNITY: We have news. FISHER: Yes. And he's been talking about this all day, watching the hearings and what's been going on in Capitol Hill with me all day long. Just keep in mind, President Trump he's opposed reopening Judge Kavanaugh's Background investigation from day one. But after Senator Jeff Flake dropped that bomb of a reversal, he didn't have much of a choice. Senator Flake started the day saying that he vote yes to confirm Kavanaugh. He put out a statement saying, quote, "I left the hearing yesterday with as much doubt as certainty." He added, "What I do know is that our system of justice supports the presumption of innocence to accused, absent corroborating evidence." But then just minutes after he put out that statement, something happened while he was on his way to cast that vote. He was confronted in an elevator by two protesters that were survivors of sexual assault. And then after that, a few hours later, Sean, he changed his mind and reverse course. Sean? HANNITY: Unbelievable. All right. Kristin Fisher in Washington. My best to your family. Two astronauts. Unbelievable. Get ready for the bombs, they are going to happen any minute. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura is next. Have a great weekend. A lot on Monday. Stay with us. Load-Date: September 29, 2018 End of Document GOP Senate Leaders Agree On One-Week Pause For FBI Investigation Into Brett Kavanaugh's Sexual Misconduct Allegation; A GoFundMe Campaign Raised Nearly $530,000 As Support For Christine Blasey Ford; FBI To Conduct Investigation For One Week Into Sexual Misconduct Allegation Thrown At Brett Kavanaugh; Senator Jeff Flake Calls For FBI Investigation Into Accusations Against Brett Kavanaugh Before Voting; Democratic Interest Groups Funding of Opposition to Brett Kavanaugh Examined Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 28, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7140 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Jonathan Turley, Ed Henry, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Dave Bossie, Joel Rubin, Gregg Nunziata, Danny Colson, John Iannarelli, Danny Coulson, Alexandra Wilkes, Mark Penn Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Kristin Fisher, I want to send my best to your family. Two astronauts, unbelievable. Get ready for the bombs. They're going to happen any minute. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura is next. Have a great weekend (inaudible) Monday. Stay with us. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE in Washington. I want to begin of course with the decision to open up a one-week FBI investigation into Brett Kavanaugh. Now, you can probably imagine I'm not really wild about this delay. But I'm trying to look at this as optimistically as possible tonight. And this might actually turn out to be a good thing, and here's why. It may just end up giving those fence sitters, Flake, Murkowski, Manchin, Collins and others cover to vote for Kavanaugh's confirmation. They probably want to vote for him, but with this question of why not the FBI investigation, they had a reason to sit back. But -- and this is very important -- if you think this is going to be the end of all the charades and the stunts that we've seen from the Democrats, think again. Now, just as a reminder, this is what they were saying about Judge Kavanaugh before the still-uncorroborated allegations emerged. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: I'm going to do absolutely everything I possibly can to speak out against this nominee. SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: You have demonstrated an extraordinary hostility to the right and liberties precious in this country that make this nation great. SEN. DICK DURBIN (D), ILLINOIS: He is the most unpopular Supreme Court nominee in the last 40 years. SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: In a moral moment, there is no bystanders. You are either complicit in the evil, you are either contributing to the wrong or you are fighting against it. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Very understated, as always, from Cory Booker. And then think about all of the baseless smears their media brethren -- can I say brethren or do you say brethren and sisters? Sorry, brethrens and sisters engaged in following that like despite her call for anonymity, the Democrats leaked Christine Blasey Ford's name. Now, the media didn't just discover Ford's whereabouts by accident forcing her into the open, OK. That was the plan from the beginning. Then in the form of a Ronan Farrow and Jane Mayer piece -- we were expecting big things from that. They proffered another pathetically sourced non-corroborated account. This one alleged that Kavanaugh exposed himself at a college party even though the alleged victim herself is not sure that Kavanaugh was actually the one who exposed himself. But that didn't stop Chris Cuomo and Rachel Maddow from hosting the man peddling this tale (inaudible) Michael Avenatti with this absurd claim of Kavanaugh and gang rape crew stalking the D.C. suburbs. Then of course, the night before yesterday's testimony, NBC trumpeted this breaking news, a fourth accuser, an anonymous person who sent a letter to a senator's office with no address, no names, nothing. So, where is the Kavanaugh saga headed next? What the Democrats with the help of Jeff Flake have really done is allowed for another week of smears, something Lindsey Graham addressed this morning. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: The Avenatti moment tells you what's going to happen if we keep this farce going. This has never been at the truth. This has been about delay and destruction. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me now for reaction is Fox News contributor and former Trump deputy campaign manager, Dave Bossie, former deputy assistant secretary of state, Joel Rubin and former chief nominations council to the Senate Judiciary Committee Gregg Nunziata. Dave Bossie, Jeff Flake -- and we are going to get into the meat of this part of it later on. But Jeff Flake was accosted by a liberal smear storm in the form of people who said they were sexually accused. But they wanted to surround him in the senate today, and they did. Somehow security doesn't even exist in the U.S. Senate anymore. People just swarm around people and stopped him in an elevator. And the man looked like, you know, he couldn't stand the heat. After that, he walks back into the senate after just having written a letter saying he supported the judge's nomination, and he comes up with a new thing, a new little idea of a week delay. DAVE BOSSIE, FORMER TRUMP DEPUTY CAMPAIGN MANAGER: It looks and it feels like he got bullied by some of these protesters but also the senate Democrats bullied him. You could see those behind the scenes pictures of him being accosted by those Senate Democrats. It's a shame. His decision has allowed Brett Kavanaugh and his family to be terrorized again for the next week. And it's really -- it's counterproductive to our country, to the Supreme Court and to the process. What it really is, it creates this -- they've thrown the rule book out the window, the Democrats. And I think they're going to pay dearly for that in the long run. INGRAHAM: Joel, this is what Flake said today as he was making his very historic pronouncement. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JEFF FLAKE (R), ARIZONA: Tthis country is being ripped apart here and we've got to make sure that we do due diligence. I think this committee has done a good job, but I do think that we can have a short pause and make sure that the FBI can investigate. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: But will it be narrow in scope? Let's listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) FLAKE: I think it would be proper to delay the floor vote for up to but not more than one week, in order to let the FBI continue or to do an investigation, limited in time and scope. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joel, already within moments, Coons, after pushing him into doing this, Coons comes out of the senate room and says, no, no, no, there are going to be other accusations. Essentially, I'm paraphrasing, we can't just limit this. So this was a big ruse. It's not about Dr. Ford. This is about digging up new dirt or doing whatever it is they do over there to get people to come forward 36 years later. JOEL RUBIN, FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE: I have confidence in the FBI and in their ability to do background investigations. And the clearly the votes were there at this time for the judge so, there needs to be an investigation into the charges from Dr. Ford. She was a credible witness. Chairman Grassley has said so. And with credibility comes responsibility. So, let's see what the FBI comes up with this. There are senators who are going to have different views of what they need to be looking at. At the end of the day, this could be good for the Republicans if they get this out -- INGRAHAM: Is that the goal for Democrats, to help the Republicans here? Is that -- you know what I mean. RUBIN: Well -- INGRAHAM: Is that really where we are? They're trying to help the Republicans. I'm sorry but I thought Jeff Flake sounded like an out-of- touch narcissist today with these comments. Mr. Smith goes to Washington. I'm going to save the whole process. The process was polluted by an uncorroborated allegation being used to smear a man who's been in public life for almost three decades. So Jeff Flake, sorry, you're a little late for that one. Gregg, I want to go to you on this. Now this to me, this was really the moment where we heard from Debra Katz's lawyer when she came forward. And I thought, "oh, she's going to be excited about this." Instead she said, "oh, no, no, -- for the accuser (inaudible) -- oh, no, no, no, we can't limit this. That's an arbitrary deadline, a week, and we need to hear from all of the accusers." So this whole thing about, it's about Dr. Ford, is it about Dr. Ford? GREGG NUNZIATA, FORMER CHIEF NOMINATIONS COUNSEL: Well, I think her lawyers have acted like they're more interested in the Democratic agenda delaying and delaying in effecting this process and they have been and getting her story out. I mean, we heard all these stories about how she was afraid to fly, et cetera, and pushed this off for several days. It doesn't appear to be that her attorneys are working in her best interest. INGRAHAM: Well, Dave, when you really think about how this has progressed from Kavanaugh being nominated to meetings from Democrat operatives about how they can stop this, how they can force this into a last-minute panic, all the way up to the midterms and then roll it forward until, you know, the time has run out. This has been the strategy from the very beginning. My question to you as someone who's a conservative activist, you know this town quite better than most people. Have the Republicans been outmaneuvered, outperformed, and outplayed on this? BOSSIE: Yes, as usual. Unfortunately, that happens to be the case in this particular instance. Brett Kavanaugh was out there by himself. He had nobody fighting for him. Even the Bush team wan't for him. I mean, it was amazing to watch him out there by himself. But look, Senator Schumer said the first day, we will do whatever it takes to defeat this person. Democrat senator after Democrat senator said, "we are in it," before the first hearing, before the first witness weeks ago, and so. Let's not forget, Senator Feinstein hid this from view. Hid this allegation from view. She and her staff have a really acted unethically. And I think there should be an investigation of how exactly they came into the possession of that letter and what they did with it. INGRAHAM: And I'm going to get into this with our FBI agents about how they go about doing this in just a moment because it's interesting. If you're going after his credibility, is there any circumstance under which you discuss the background of the accuser or the people supporting her? Because if you're doing that, then what are you doing? And then 36 years later, how do you -- if it's just a credibility contest, where do you go? RUBIN: Well, it's not just a credibility contest. There really is information. The judge himself had a calendar. There were charges that she has put out there of factual information. INGRAHAM: She doesn't know when it happened or where it happened. RUBIN: That is why we need to understand. (CROSSTALK) NUNZIATA: There's no reason to think that the FBI is going to uncover anything that the committee investigates haven't uncovered. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Gregg, you've worked on nomination after nomination after confirmation. Do you think the Democrats are purposely deciding we're just going to ignore what the FBI does and just claim that the FBI is going to go around like, you know, like they're actually going to dust fingerprints and collect DNA samples? NUNZIATA: I mean, it's just not what the FBI does. They take statements from people who knew the nominee and try to see if there is an allegation that should be investigated by the Senate Judiciary Committee. INGRAHAM: Right. NUNZIATA: And the Senate Judiciary Committee has already heard these allegations, has already investigated them, have sworn statements that expose all these people to five years in prison if they're lying. So I would be very surprised if somehow the FBI uncovers something that they haven't already found. BOSSIE: And Laura, if I could just -- look, I served as chief investigator for one of these committees and did all the Clinton investigations in the 90's and worked with some of the best investigative reporters in the country. For the last two weeks, there have been hundreds of investigative reporters scouring every morsel, very detail, every fact, whether it's fact or fiction, trying to come up with more allegations against Brett Kavanaugh and they have not been able to come up with anything. INGRAHAM: Nothing, and let me tell you. When he was working for Ken Starr, you don't think they would have shredded him? They were the best at shaking up. BOSSIE: The Clinton were a machine. They attacked and killed everybody that came up with Henry Hyde's mutual indiscretion. They attacked Ken Starr, Jackie Bennet, Hickman Ewing. You name it, they went after them. INGRAHAM: If you survived being with Ken Starr and looking at Clinton's, you know, sex life and all that, then I'm sorry, that's one other -- hold on. I got to get to this Cory Booker. Cory Booker didn't even believe the statements as they were written and signed under penalty of felony, including that of Mark Judge and others. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BOOKER: The only person who has denied the event has taken place, who said it did not happen, is Judge Kavanaugh. Mark Judge said, "I have no memory of this alleged incident. This is not it did not happen." PJ Smyth said he has no knowledge of these allegations. That is not it did not happen. Leland Kaiser has said through her attorney she has no recollection of being at a party of gathering where Kavanaugh was present. That was not it did not happen. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, well, here's what Mark Judge said in his statement, the one he signed. He said, "I have no memory of the alleged incident. Brett Kavanaugh and I were friends in high school, but I don't recall the party described in Dr. Ford's leter. More to the point -- this is probably what Cory did not read -- I never saw Brett act in the manner Dr. Ford describes." That's pretty definitive don't we think. I mean, this is the key person who supposedly was in the room with him who said, "I've never seen him act in the manner described." But Cory Booker looks into the camera and makes that statement. I just can't take him seriously for a whole bunch of reason. That's one of the main reasons. BOSSIE: But one of him is, you know, he's obviously an admitted groper himself. So he has his own problems. He has his own MeToo moments. Now, he's an admitted groper. Keith Ellison has his problems. Bill Clinton have his problems. Why can't -- (CROSSTALK) BOSSIE: Hey, how about Tom Carper who is a known wife-beater? He's serving in the United States senate today. INGRAHAM: But why won't these women who are swarming Jeff Flake, do they know where Ellison's office is? Have they gone up to Ellison and said, "Hey, what did you do from your girlfriend because she has a record from her doctor?" Do you not stand with the girlfriend? RUBIN: Right now, Judge Kavanaugh, yesterday in his performance, what he did was he demonstrated a temperament that gave pause to a lot of people. And that really opened up the question for a lot of the moderate swing votes that now they're looking and they're saying -- (CROSSTALK) BOSSIE: That is only in the next thing. INGRAHAM: -- people who can be angry are the Democrats. (CROSSTALK) BOSSIE: When you're fighting for your right, you have every right to be angry, and that's what he did. No, his life has been destroyed and he said so. What these people have done, it's despicable. INGRAHAM: Yes. All right, well any (inaudible). NUNZIATA: We have another week and we'll see what happens. I think the outcome is going to be the same way it looked this morning, which is Judge Kavanaugh is going to get confirmed with 52 votes just like Clarence Thomas. INGRAHAM: Gregg has been very consistent and he's very calm when the rest of us are -- (CROSSTALK) NUNZIATA: I try, I try. INGRAHAM: Why am I talking so loudly, OK? This is like, OK, Laura, stop talking. It's Friday, we're going to have fun on the show. All right guys, thank you so much. You're all great. Now, Ms. Blasey Ford has now raised -- this is pretty amazing -- $530,000 on a GoFundMe page, which starts raising some important questions. Who set the page up? The site just indicates that it was "sponsored by her neighbors and colleagues." And isn't it fair to ask with another long week in front of us, has this GoFundMe created a new incentive for accusers, and are we witnessing a new president involving major financial rewards for people who makes such claims. To answer these questions, let's bring in constitutional law expert, Fox News contributor Jonathan Turley. Jonathan, what's your reaction? The GoFundMe page first, is there an incentive issue here that should be concerning? Also with the swarmers in the senate. They apparently got Jeff Flake to, you know, put on a pair of depends and like we're unto Coons 20 minutes later. So, are we creating bad incentives here? JONATHAN TURLEY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: When I wrote about this for the first time "The Hill" newspaper when Lanny Davis announced or rolled out a GoFundMe-type page for Michael Cohen, and suddenly huge amounts of money were put into that account. And as an attorney, it really struck me as quite odd because you can have people effectively in a market for witnesses. You can buy a witness effectively by funding them as long as they're saying the type of thing that you want them to say. So Michael Cohen goes out and says, "I'm now, you know, out the get the president. I'm going to implicate him in crimes" and money pours into this account as his attorney flogs the internet site for donations. And we're seeing that now more and more, where people essentially invest in key witnesses, so that they become part of this legal process by making it more likely that folks are going to not only take a certain approach in testimony, but they essentially are competing against each other in this market. You're going to get more donations than you are --. INGRAHAM: Yes, I'll one-up you on the threats. TURLEY: You are. And so this whole aspect of GoFundMe is relatively new. And really our ethical rules haven't really caught up to that. You know, we have all types of rules about the classic situation where someone gives you money for testimony, but this is a new creature for us. This idea that millions of people can effectively pay you to take a particular position. INGRAHAM: Yes. Well, Jonathan, there's $200,000 that has been raised in an account for her security. She's very concerned about her security, apparently. So, $200,000 in that and then the $530,000 in this general page. And just for people who missed this, there was a moment where her lawyers were -- they were asked a question about is someone paying for your attorneys fees. Let's watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RACHEL MITCHELL, SEX CRIMES PROSECUTOR: I believe you said it hasn't been paid for yet, is that correct? DEBRA KATZ, ATTORNEY FOR CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD: Let me put an end to this misery. Her lawyers have paid for her polygraph. MITCHELL: Dr. Ford, do you expect the price of that polygraph to be passed on to you? CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD, ACCUSER OF BRETT KAVANAUGH: I'm not sure yet. I haven't taken a look at all the costs involved in this. I'm aware that there's been several GoFundMe sites, but I haven't had a chance to figure out how to manage those because I've never had one. MITCHELL: I'm sorry, several what? GORD: GoFundMe. MICHAEL BROMWICH, ATTORNEY FOR CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD: I can help you with that. Both her co- counsel are doing this pro bono. We are not being paid and we have no expectation of being paid. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: $530,000, does that cover the gas from Rehoboth Beach to Washington? I mean, what are we -- the Coke? I mean the Coke is for free I think at the hearing. Where is that money going? This is a legitimate question to ask. No one wanted to touch, of course, the character of the accuser for a variety of reasons. You don't want to victimize a victim or an alleged victim and I get that. But we don't have journalists who were interested in, you know, what was she like in high school? I mean, is that not relevant when you're making an accusation 36 -- no one wanted to touch that. But on this, it would seem that everyone should be interested in this if someone is making a lot of money off of this particular case. TURLEY: Yes. We're in a very strange place right now ethically. GoFundMe sites and similar sites really do help people pay for important public interest work and projects, so I'm not criticizing that. But we really do need to have some type of standard as attorney set these up in terms of where the money goes to. What you can say in order to induce people to give money to these sites. Those are really raising some new questions and I think they're pretty darn troubling. INGRAHAM: Well, there could be fraud involved also, correct? With a GoFundMe appeal, that could be some type of fraudulent intent. I mean, fraud and the inducement. I mean, it could be all sorts of things involved here. But again, it is new territory. Jonathan Turley, thank you so much. TURLEY: Thank you. INGRAHAM: And I want to know where that money is going so badly. It's pro bono. That means free. That's not get the money later. I am still a lawyer. Now, where does the FBI investigation stand at this hour? Ed Henry is here with a live report, new information, plus, exactly what can the FBI provide in just a week's time. Two former agents take us through the process, next. INGRAHAM: With the FBI Kavanaugh investigation now rubber stamped by the White House, where does it stand at this hour and what its scope? That's a really important question. For those answers, we go to chief national correspondent Ed Henry tonight, Ed. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Laura, great to see you. New tonight, the FBI has actually started work on this new background check. The president tweeting a few moments ago that this will now be the seventh background check for Judge Brett Kavanaugh in recent years. There is some risk this time because remember, the judge yesterday testified himself that every day feels like an eternity for he and his family. So this could open the door, this delay, to more salacious and unverified allegations coming up. But on the plus side for the president and for Kavanaugh, this could lock in some yes votes from four or five key moderates in both parties and eventually get him confirmed. The big caveat of course is Kavanaugh could be confirmed as long as the FBI does not find evidence to corroborate Dr. Ford's allegations. At the urging of Republican Jeff Flake, the committee has now moved forward. They ask the president to do this. The president did order this new background investigation, but here's the key when you ask about the scope. The committee says it is, "limited to current credible allegations that must be completed one week from today." That would suggest just the Dr. Ford allegations, which are current and which have been deemed credible even by the president, except that this does not seem to be good enough for Dr. Ford's attorney, Debra Katz, who tonight released a statement praising the Senate for agreeing to what she called a thorough FBI investigation. But then added, "no artificial limits as to time or scope should be imposed on this investigation," suggesting that, yes, the Ford camp might want to delay this some more, except of course her team does not run the Senate and this FBI probe could be moving quickly as we noted at the top. Kavanaugh's friend, Mark Judge, has sent a new letter to the Justice Department tonight saying that, in fact, he saw nothing and doesn't in fact remember anything happening in the early 1980's, nothing like Dr. Ford testified to. At least five key moderates say they back this one-week investigation. So if the president does move forward with all of this and the FBI finds nothing, Kavanaugh would not be guaranteed to get these votes, but would likely get the backing moderate Republicans like Flake, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski Democrat Heidi Heitkamp and Joe Manchin who all said they support this one week FBI investigation. It's brokered by Flake and Democrat Chris Coons in that ante room of the Senate judiciary panel as they were about to vote on the nomination. This allowed the committee to report it out of committee with a favorable 11-10 vote, but then the pause. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GRAHAM: You can have the FBI, the CIA and the Foreign Legion and they're not going to tell you any more than you know now. SEN. CHRIS COONS (D), DELAWARE: It is my hope and expectation that a report from the FBI will be delivered to the judiciary committee members to allow them to further inform their vote. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: Now, in terms of this one week, remember, Republican Chairman Chuck Grassley said yesterday that Democrat Dianne Feinstein wasted nearly two months by sitting on that original letter from Dr. Ford. Lauar. INGRAHAM: Ed, thanks. HENRY: You're welcome. (BEGIN VIDEO) SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: Are you willing to ask the White House to authorize the FBI to investigate the claims that have been made against you? SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D), CALIFORNIA: Why aren't you also asking the FBI to investigate these claims? DURBIN: If there is no truth to her charges, the FBI investigation will show that. Are you afraid that they might not? COONS: Why not agree to a one-week pause to allow the FBI to investigate all these allegations? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, given all that, they were perfectly orchestrated. The Republicans don't do the same (inaudible) job as the Democrats do, consistent refrain. Should we be really all that surprised about today's developments? The question is what exactly can the FBI accomplish in just a week's time? For answers to that, we turn to the pros, two of them. Danny Colson, former deputy assistant FBI director and John Iannarelli, former national spokesperson for the FBI. Danny, let's start with you. I think there is a lot of misconception out there about what this means. Of course we hear that credible allegations -- current credible allegations will be part of this new background investigation. Tell me what you expect to be accomplished. DANNY COLSON, FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT FBI DIRECTOR: Well, first of all, to take the emotion out of this thing, we saw the circus atmosphere for the last several weeks. The FBI's going to do a dispassionate black-and- white, this is what we know, this is what we've seen investigation that will be done timely. Remember, this is the organization that solved the Oklahoma bombing in a day and a half. This is a background investigation. The director of the FBI has all kinds of resources they can pour into this thing. It'll be the highest priority thing they're probably doing right now. And they're going to find out what happened and I'm not so sure that all the party is going to like the results (inaudible). So I think that remains to be seen as viewed once it comes in. INGRAHAM: John, the "L.A. Times" had a piece that they put up this afternoon. The title was this, "Former FBI agents say there are clues to follow from dramatic Kavanaugh hearing." And this is the graph I pulled. "There is plenty of lead value in the testimony that was provided during the confirmation hearing and there are plenty of living witnesses that can be identified, contacted, and interviewed," said James McJunkin, a former top FBI official. "They can do this fairly quickly." John. JOUN IANNAVELLI, FORMER FBI NATIONAL SPOKESPERSON: The FBI can do this very quickly. It's what the FBI does. It's what the FBI is good at. Sure, there's tons of leads, there is people you can talk to, but just because there's leads doesn't mean there's going to be evidence, that something's going to come back conclusively showing that someone engaged in some sort of behavior. The FBI nonetheless will go out, gather what facts are available and bring them back so that the politicians can decide. INGRAHAM: Danny, I'm going back to this language of current credible allegations and what my mind is going to when I'm putting myself in the position of some of the twisted Democrats on that committee. Brett Kvanaugh, he drank too much, for instance. They think that's a credible allegation that he didn't refute. He claims he didn't ever black out but that's not really credible how much alcohol was being drunk in college or high school, whatever. Now, is that the kind of thing the FBI could possibly look into, call other people that are listed in the yearbook entry, or they don't go to that granular level of detail? COULSON: They can, actually. When you do a background investigation you talk to associates to see what kind of person this is. That's just routine. But there's forensic things they can do, too. INGRAHAM: But he's already gone through those. Danny, he's had six background checks. You don't think they've talked to people in high school, college, law school, the White House, et cetera? COULSON: They could, yes, they could very well. But also -- INGRAHAM: They already did. COULSON: Yes, but they're going to do it again. And I guarantee you they will do it again in order to put this thing to rest. They don't want to be criticized for not following up or doing the right thing. This has to be very, very well done, very detailed. And I will tell you, I'd grab that calendar and have that calendar examined to show this is credible or not. They can age date those things with the ink and the paper to see if it was written contemporaneously the way he said it was. That's very powerful evidence. His own calendar says a lot about where he was and where he was not. So all kinds of things like that can be done, and they will do it with a great deal of vigor. And they're going to come out with some answers here, and it may not support the allegations. I think it probably won't. INGRAHAM: Gosh, I didn't think they would be looking in the ink in the calendar. I thought they would be doing a bunch of interviews and writing up 302's. Danny, you're giving me new things to think about tonight. I love it. All right, guys, thanks so much. And ahead, Friday Follies with Raymond Arroyo. Boy, we need to laugh after this week, where we expose the disturbing tactics that paved the way for this new extension of time, and a lot more. A legendary singer launches her own resistance protest. INGRAHAM: It's Friday, which means it's time for -- (MUSIC) INGRAHAM: First off, leftist activists storming and swarming Capitol Hill last week, launching a harassment campaign against public officials. They took it from the restaurant right into the U.S. Senate. So will the announcement of the Kavanaugh FBI probe embolden them? To tell us all about it we're joined by "New York Times" bestselling author of the forthcoming "Will Wilder, The Amulet of Power," can I make any more comments about you? FOX News contributor Raymond Arroyo. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: It's called an introduction. INGRAHAM: It's not about your whole resume. Your Friday Folly. ARROYO: OK, let's talk about these protests that have been swarming Capitol Hill. We've seen in restaurants, in movie theaters. This week Capitol Hill offices were filled with protesters. Poor Lindsey Graham, he was outrunning the mob. This looked like something out of one of those Frankenstein movies where the villagers. They're yelling and screaming at him with signs, poking him. This was the scene all over the Capitol. INGRAHAM: Paid protestors. ARROYO: But this built to the moment today when Jeff Flake, who was always on the fence about whether he was going to vote Kavanaugh out of committee, was cornered in an elevator today. You showed it earlier. We're going to let people hear it. This is that moment that Flake claims caused his change of heart. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are allowing someone who is unwilling to take responsibility for his own actions to sit on the highest court of the country and to have the role of repairing the harm that has been done in this country to many people. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was sexually assaulted and nobody believed me. I didn't tell anyone, and you're telling all women that they don't matter. You're telling all of these women. That's what you're telling me right now. Look at me when I'm talking to you. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: The insistence, the anger, the harassment of public officials, I worry about this. Do you think this is staged? It might have been staged to justify the change of heart. INGRAHAM: Look at me! Look at me! I'm sorry. First of all, who is his staff? ARROYO: Where is the capitol police? INGRAHAM: Where is the capitol police? And why is this allowed to happen. If you did that to one of these women, they would be screaming harassment. They don't like it. And first of all, if you're someone who was sexual assaulted, that's a horrible, terrible thing, but that does not therefore mean that every person who is accused of sexual harassment is guilty. The logic class doesn't seem to have been attended by these people. ARROYO: I worry that by giving into this horde you are going to unleash another Antifa like swarm, and this will continue. What are we teaching kids? Throw a temper tantrum, you get what you want. It's a bad message. INGRAHAM: Use the f-bomb and follow people. ARROYO: Speaking of protests, it comes in many, many forms these days. And now one of the bestselling recording artists of all time has decided to set her political rage to music. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARBRA STREISAND, SINGER/SONGWRITER: After the election, I became mortified kind of, and terrified. And so I had to use my creative energy to -- I had to put it somewhere. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Where would you like her to put it, Laura? INGRAHAM: I don't know. The word "feline" comes up to me. She's very feline looking. It's an interesting look. ARROYO: On November 2nd Barbra Streisand is releasing a new album called "Walls." Where did that title come from? INGRAHAM: I want to put a wall up so I don't have to hear this. ARROYO: The songs all have a political edge, including one that she wrote herself called "Don't Lie To Me," directed to who she calls the liar in chief. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (MUSIC) (END VIDEO CLIP) (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: Don't lie to me. INGRAHAM: I love what she's done with the lyrics. ARROYO: How do you sleep when the world is burning, she asked in this lyric. She went somehow from funny girl to cranky lady. The album's coming out. She's done a string of these duet albums in recent years. I don't know if political agitprop agrees with her. I think the audience will be crying for "The Way We Were." INGRAHAM: You don't bring me flowers or lyrics anymore. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Murphy Brown came back from the dead after 20 years last night on CBS. Raymond, she had a special guest on. ARROYO: She had a special guest. In this new Murphy Brown 20 years later, her son Avery works for an opposing network called the Wolf Network. INGRAHAM: Subtle. ARROYO: Which Murphy describes this way -- all the anchors are conspiracy theorists and all the women are dead behind their eyes. I guess we found women you don't have to respect after all. So anyway, she wears a shirt that says "The Original Nasty Woman" in the premier. They put Trump video behind sympathy for the devil. And then there was a very special guest star. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, (D) FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm here to interview for the secretarial position. I'm not afraid of hard work, I'm qualified, and ready on day one. (LAUGHTER) CANDICE BERGEN, ACTRESS: And I also assume you've had previous secretarial experience. CLINTON: Absolutely. For four years, I was the secretary of a very large organization. (LAUGHTER) BERGEN: And you have all the requisite skills, computer, email. CLINTON: Emails. I do have some experience with emails. (LAUGHTER) (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Thank goodness for the laugh track. This was a strident -- even reviewers called it strident, heavy- handed, not character-driven at all. INGRAHAM: Can I say something. Two words -- not funny. These people are obsessed with Trump. They think they're actually, and you said this the other night, they're more obsessed with Trump than Trump supporters. I know they call it Trump-derangement syndrome, but it really is a mental disorder at this point. They have a mental disorder. ARROYO: Laura, Over 7.4 million people tuned in to this premier. Contrast that with "Will and Grace." It had 10 million. "Roseanne" had 18 million. When I watched this, I kept thinking, Candice Bergen wrote a book years ago about her father called "Knock Wood." It was about Edgar Bergen, the little puppy he used, the wooden dummy called Charlie McCarthy. She was very upset because he used that dummy to communicate his true feelings. Watching this, Candice Bergen is using a very wooden Murphy Brown to communicate her politics, and I don't think the audience is going to accept this. INGRAHAM: No. Come up with a new idea. That would be good. ARROYO: So I'll be back later, winners and losers. INGRAHAM: Winners and losers. Who is behind this continued effort to take down Brett Kavanaugh? An INGRAHAM ANGLE investigation, a former Hillary Clinton spokesperson Brian Fallon's role, there he is, next. INGRAHAM: Oh, these delays tactics and eleventh-hour accusations against Kavanaugh seem a little too convenient, at least to me. And that's probably because they are. They're well-coordinated and extremely well- funded. America Rising, a Republican research group, has been diving into the latest anti-Kavanaugh efforts and found there is one particular bad actor behind many of the smears, former Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder staffer Brian Fallon. Joining us now is to navigate the web of anti-Kavanaugh dark money is the researcher who compiled this report, Alexandra Wilkes. And on set with me is former Clinton Adviser and pollster Mark Penn. Alexandra, give us a rundown of how this group, it's called Demand Justice, which is led by Fallon, is the tip of the anti-Kavanaugh spear. ALEXANDRA WILKES, AMERICA RISING SENIOR ADVISER: So in Judge Kavanaugh's great opening statement he was mocked by some liberals for claiming that there's this calculated effort to smear him. And he's not wrong. The liberals have been leaving all kinds of breadcrumbs for us to trace. So as you mentioned, Brian Fallon founded Demand Justice. He was the face of the Hillary Clinton campaign. You saw him all over the 2016 effort. After that campaign wrapped up in the spring of 2018, he founded Demand Justice. And his goal was to defeat whoever President Trump decided to choose as his nominee for the Supreme Court. So, again, we're dealing with an organization that didn't even look to see what qualifications this person would have. They didn't care. They were going to defeat anyone. He goes to George Soros for some seed money. He gets it. And I'll let you jump in before I tell the next part of the story. INGRAHAM: So Soros then comes in. And we don't know how much he gave him, or we do? We have those facts? WILKES: So here's the thing. For as much as Democrats like to lament dark money, and by dark money we're talking about money that comes from 501-C4 organizations. These are contributions that are unlimited to these organizations and undisclosed. These groups were popularized by the great decision in Citizens United. So we're talking about Democrats who apparently deplore dark money, but they have set up not one level, not two levels, but three levels of secrecy in setting up this project. Demand Justice is a project of the 1630 Foundation. Those are both C4's. And it's partnered with Hillary Clinton's Onward C4 as well. That means that all of their filings are obscured within each other's tax returns and we can't see them. INGRAHAM: So that's the rub. Mark, you thought and spoken about how some of this could, and I say could, backfire on the Democrats. I know you're going to do some new polling over the weekend. MARK PENN, FORMER CLINTON ADVISER AND POLLSTER: Look, I don't think it's a surprise that there are groups on the Democratic side that genuinely oppose this nominee and the entire list of Federalist Society nominees, and there are groups on the Republican side. We are here because a professor wrote a letter and Senator Feinstein wrongly held that letter. But that's really why we're here. And I think the public wants some certainty here. Real questions have been raised. Even President Trump says that the professor's testimony was credible. And I think probably Senator Flake did the right thing. Maybe this is supposed to just take a week. Maybe it will just confirm, maybe it will turn up something new. But I think people wanted more certainty before this vote, and I think they're going to get that. INGRAHAM: Brian Fallon though, is particularly, obviously he's partisan. But to say things like this as he did in a tweet yesterday, "If the Senate ignored Ford and tries to muscle an attempted rapist onto the court," not even alleged, "an attempted rapist onto the court, they will pay dearly this November," focusing on Collins and Gardner. "Kavanaugh will not serve for life." Do you think that's good language? PENN: I think that we are searching for some national unity here. Quotes like that are not going to get us there. I agree with that. I hope that after this investigation and the vote, we can come together and stop this kind of rhetoric. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, thanks so much. When we come back, winners and losers of the week. Do not miss this, next. INGRAHAM: You bet there are some big winners and major losers in this big news week. And to help me break it all down I'm once again joined by Raymond Arroyo. OK, Raymond, what's one of the biggest winners of the week? ARROYO: To my mind, the biggest winners were those Judiciary Committee Democrats. They wanted an FBI investigation. They pushed and begged for it, demanded it. INGRAHAM: They coordinated it. They coordinated their questions. ARROYO: They staged everything. INGRAHAM: OK. My winner of the week is Lindsey Graham, who had the moment and he stole the show. ARROYO: The only Republican who defended Kavanaugh and actually made the case. INGRAHAM: The only Republican. Loser, I say Michael Avenatti and the media. Those are the winners. The losers are Michael Avenatti and the media who kept propping up his specious gang rape complaint that, by the way, Mark Judge said in a sworn declaration never happened. ARROYO: My loser would be Rachel Mitchell and the GOP senators who pushed the poor woman out there. And she was trying to get a deposition. She was like on a fact-finding mission when a prosecutor was necessary to make the case for Kavanaugh. That never happened. INGRAHAM: Raymond, would you like to look at this document? Are you OK? If you're uncomfortable, let us know. ARROYO: Could I have a second water. INGRAHAM: Would you like some more caffeine? ARROYO: Much too solicitous. INGRAHAM: We need it. All right, we'll be right back. INGRAHAM: One more little tidbit. It came out tonight that we actually had a conversation between Jeff Flake, Mr. Coons, Senator Coons, and Rod Rosenstein. That conversation was had before they made the big announcement. Apparently Rosenstein said they could do an investigation in a week, but they probably wouldn't unearth anything more than we already know. Everybody, have a great weekend. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team are up next. Load-Date: September 29, 2018 End of Document Supreme Court Showdown; Interview With Senator Lindsey Graham; Senator Lindsey Graham Shares How He Was Moved By Judge Brett Kavanaugh's Statement During The Senate Hearing, He Urges Republicans To Vote For Him Because He Knew The Man Very Well And He Also Said That What The Democrats Have Done And Are Still Doing Is Just Not Right Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 27, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7919 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Ed Henry, Matt Schlapp, Kristin Fisher, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett Guests: Lindsey Graham, Carrie Severino, Juanita Broaddrick Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Great show today. By the way, this just breaking, Bob Corker tweeted out that he is a "yes" for Judge Kavanaugh and Jeff Flake saying its tough decision. And then, of course, we have Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski, and we're going to be watching very closely. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST, TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT: It will be hard to vote against him I think. HANNITY: Good show tonight. CARLSON: Thanks. HANNITY: Thank you for letting me use your studio. Love it. All right. Welcome to "Hannity". We are broadcasting live. We're in the swamp, Washington, D.C., our nation's capital, where the future of this very country in so many different ways is at stake tonight. And the Senate is now on the verge of what will be a historic vote. And for all of you good, honest, hardworking taxpayers that do all the hard work every day and raise your kids and love God, faith, family and country, there's lot under attack. We're going to break it all down for you. And you know what? Unable to stop this man's nomination based on merit for the past two weeks, we have watched, we have now witnessed people in this country, that elected officials and Democrats attempting to literally destroy the character, the career, the life of Judge Brett Kavanaugh. They have tried to utterly ruin what it turns out to be a good man. No due process, no presumption of innocence and literally no corroboration at all. And shamefully they are using in almost four decades old sexual misconduct allegation as a political ploy, and they are demanding that a man with what is an impeccable 40 year track record prove his innocence from charges featuring again, no corroboration, no location, no date, all because Brett Kavanaugh is appointed by Donald Trump and has a more conservative judicial philosophy. And Democrats now, by the way, as we speak, sadly, it's a sad night, criminalizing ideology. And if they successfully block this nomination, nobody is safe from these types of smears. Senator Lindsey Graham who had a powerful moment at today's hearing will join us. But first, it is time for our D.C. breaking news -- there is so much of it -- opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: So, today, after weeks of being smeared by Democrats, called evil, accused of rape and gang rape, being compared to Bill Cosby, after weeks of vile death threats against his family, after weeks of being demonized all over television and most major newspapers, well, today, Brett Kavanaugh finally had a chance under oath to clear his good name. Dramatic testimony today, powerful testimony. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUDGE BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE NOMINEE: This confirmation process has become a national disgrace. The Constitution gives the Senate an important role in the confirmation process, but you have replaced advice and consent with search and destroy. Since my nomination in July, there's been a frenzy on the left to come up with something, anything, to block my confirmation. Shortly after I was nominated, the Democratic Senate leader said he would quote oppose me with everything he's got. A Democratic senator on this committee publicly referred to me as evil, given comments like those. Is it any surprise that people have been willing to do anything, to make any physical threat against my family, to send any violent email to my wife, to make any kind of allegation against me and against my friends, to blow me up and take me down? You sowed the wind. For decades to come, I fear that the whole country will reap the whirlwind. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Judge Kavanaugh also had this to say about the process, and his family and what they have been forced to endure again with zero corroboration, no presumption of innocence and no due process. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KAVANAUGH: The behavior of several of the Democratic members of this committee in my hearing a few weeks ago was an embarrassment, but at least it was just a good old-fashioned attempt at borking. Those efforts didn't work. When I did at least okay enough at those hearings and it looks like I might actually get confirmed, a new tactic was needed. Some of you were lying in wait and had it ready. This first allegation was held in secret for weeks by a Democratic member of this committee and by staff. It would be needed only if you couldn't take me out on the merits. When it was needed, this allegation was unleashed and publicly deployed over Dr. Ford's wishes. This whole two-week effort has been a calculated and orchestrated political hit, fueled with apparent pent-up anger about President Trump and the 2016 election, fear that has been unfairly stoked about my judicial record, revenge on behalf of the Clintons and millions of dollars in money from outside left-wing opposition groups. This is a circus. The consequences will extend long past my nomination. The consequences will be with us for decades. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: After those powerful remarks, Judge Kavanaugh addressed his accuser, professor Christine Ford. Take a look at this emotional moment from earlier today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KAVANAUGH: I have never done this to her or anyone. That's not who I am, it's not who I was. I am innocent of this charge. I intend no ill will to Dr. Ford and her family. The other night, Ashley and my daughter Liza said their prayers and, little Liza all of 10 years old -- said to Ashley, we should pray for the woman. That's a lot of wisdom from a 10-year-old. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We are that on my radio show with a lot of people around me, guys and girls, they all were crying. Ten- year-old, little girl, powerful moment, and she's absolutely right. But let's take a moment to review the charges from Professor Ford, where allegations were made in July to a Democratic member of Congress. She claims that those claims come back 36 years, nearly four decades, and I've been saying, she deserved to be heard from the very beginning. These allegations are serious, they were taken seriously by the president, by the Senate, and by everybody, except, and I'll explain. But she doesn't remember a date, day of the week, location, how she got to or from the party where the alleged crime took place. All of the witnesses that Professor Ford listed to corroborate her claims, they all denied what she is alleging, all four in sworn statements under penalty of felony. Let me repeat, all witnesses have given sworn statements under the penalty of felony, that means you could go to jail, to the Democrats. What that means is that this has been investigated. The people that there were have already spoken. And it includes Professor Ford's friend, her name, Leland Keyser. Her attorney released a statement, it reads, quote: Simply put, Ms. Keyser does know Mr. Kavanaugh and has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present with or without Dr. Ford. Now, today, the Senate's independent prosecutor asked her about this irrefutable fact. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RACHEL MITCHELL, PROSECUTOR: Are you aware that they say they have no memory or knowledge of such a party? CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD, KAVANAUGH ACCUSER: Yes. MITCHELL: Do you have any particular motives to ascribe to Leland? FORD: I could take those one at a time. Leland has significant health challenges and I'm happy that she's focusing on herself and getting the health treatments that she needs. And she let me know that she needed her lawyer to take care of this for her, and she texted me right afterward with an apology, and good wishes and et cetera. So I'm glad she's taking care of herself. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That today's testimony from Professor Ford actually raised more questions than it answered, including this moment about Ford's recent polygraph test. Let's take a look at this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MITCHELL: Why was that location chosen for the polygraph? FORD: I had left my grandmother's funeral at Fort Lincoln Cemetery that day and I was on a tight schedule to get a plane to Manchester, New Hampshire, so he was willing to come to me which is appreciated. MITCHELL: So he administered a polygraph on the day that you attended your grandmother's funeral? FORD: Yes, correct. It might have been the next day. I spent the night in the hotel. Not sure of the exact day. MITCHELL: Did you pay for the polygraph yourself? FORD: I don't -- I don't think so. MITCHELL: OK. Do you know who did pay for the polygraph? FORD: Not yet, no. MITCHELL: I believe you said it hasn't been paid for yet, is that correct? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let me put an end to this misery. Her lawyers have paid for her polygraph. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As is routine. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As his routine. MITCHELL: Is it your understanding that someone else is going to assist you with some of these fees including the cost for your polygraph? FORD: I'm aware that there have been several GoFundMe sites that I haven't had a chance to figure out how to manage those, because I've never had one. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNTY: Now, just to recap, Professor Ford doesn't remember when the incident in question happened. She doesn't remember where the incident happened. She has given inconsistent answers about this important detail. She doesn't remember exactly who attended the party in question. She has given inconsistent answers about this detail. She doesn't remember how she got to the alleged party. She doesn't remember how she got back from the party and not one person corroborates her story. We also learned today she doesn't remember if she handed "The Washington Post" therapy notes just a few weeks ago. Now, in minutes -- just minutes ago, "The Wall Street Journal" editorial board fully endorsed the confirmation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh and also moments ago, we learned that Senator Mitch McConnell announced the Senate Judicial Committee, the Senate Judiciary Committee, will, in fact, in the morning, they are moving forward, he said. And moments ago, Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee announced on Twitter that he will vote yes on Brett Kavanaugh. But none of these matter seemingly to people on the other side. It shouldn't be about Democrat/Republican, liberal/conservative at all. They wanted and stated from the beginning, they wanted to ruin Judge Brett Kavanaugh, and over unsubstantiated, uncorroborated claims from nearly four decades ago. For the left at this point, it's not about sexual misconduct. Otherwise they would be talking about Keith Ellison. They would have had more harsh statements about Bill Clinton. This has not been about protecting victims or finding the truth even. To them, from day one, Chuck Schumer leading the way, this has all been political. It is a sad day for the country, what we had to witness today. The worst part of this is, Senator Dianne Feinstein knew about these claims since July. She knew about these charges when she actually met with Kavanaugh in private. She knew about these claims when she questioned him during his public hearing several weeks ago. And when she met privately with Brett Kavanaugh, she had already been recommending attorneys to Professor Ford. Only after Brett Kavanaugh's nomination looked imminent did Dianne Feinstein and Democrats announce Ford's allegations. This has been a disgraceful display of politics at its worst. Is reelection more important then another person's life here? Did anyone hear the pain in Brett Kavanaugh's voice today? And, by the way, I would argue too, Professor Ford to come up as Susan Collins has said it, nobody has been served well here. She wished to remain anonymous. The story got leaked. Her name got leaked. And without any corroboration or evidence, then you have politicians smearing Kavanaugh again and again on national TV. And this is just a small sampling. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: The Senate shouldn't simply rely on hearing two conflicting accounts and decide -- well, we are okay with not knowing. We are okay with the fact that we might be putting someone who committed attempted rape on the Supreme Court of the United States. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: I believe her. Listen, first of all, anybody who comes forward at this point to be prepared to testify in the United States Senate against someone who is being nominated to one of the most powerful positions in the United States government, that takes an extraordinary amount of courage. SEN. MAIZE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: Not only do women, like Dr. Ford who bravely comes forward, need to be heard but they need to be believed. They need to be believed. I just want to say to the men of this country: just shut up and step up. Do the right thing. SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: Let me just right at the outset, I believe Dr. Ford. I believe the survivor here. There's every reason to believe her. She has come forward courageously and bravely. SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: I believe her. I stand with her. And -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you hope she shows up on Monday? Do you hope that she testifies? GILLIBRAND: I don't think she should be bullied into this scenario, where it's a he said/she said. It's a sham hearing. And I don't think she should participate in it. SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY), MINORITY LEADER: I believe Professor Ford. I think she is credible. And I think when the investigation is finished and when she testifies and Judge Kavanaugh testifies, I think a majority of senators will find her credible. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And the smears continued during the hearing. And today, Democrats ramping up their favorite new talking point, we must have an FBI investigation. Now, this is, of course, all a political stall tactic. They want delay, delay, delay. The hope we get to the midterms. They hope they win and they hope they stop Donald Trump from fulfilling a campaign promise and constitutional obligation. Watch the echo chamber and on the other side of this, I will explain why this is phony, and they know it. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KAVANAUGH: The behavior of several Democratic embers of this committee a few weeks ago at my hearing was an embarrassment, but at least it was just an old-fashioned attempts at borking. Those efforts didn't work. When I did at least okay enough at the hearings that it look like I might actually get confirmed, a new tactic was needed. Some of you were lying in wait, and had it ready. This first allegation was held in secret for weeks by a Democratic member of this committee and by staff. It would be needed only if you couldn't take me out on the merits. When it was needed, this allegation was unleashed and publicly deployed over Dr. Ford's wishes. This whole two-week effort has been a calculated and orchestrated political hit. Fueled with apparent pent-up anger about President Trump and the 2016 election, fear that has been unfairly stoked about my judicial record, revenge on behalf of the Clintons, and millions of dollars in money from outside left-wing opposition groups. This is a circus. The consequences will extend long past my nomination. The consequences will be with us for decades. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, an FBI investigation does not make conclusions, they all knew this. It would interview everybody that has already been interviewed and a report would then be issued. That's it. The Democrats know it. In 1991, then Senator Joe Biden suggested that these FBI investigations are actually useless, his words, and they all agreed back then. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) THEN-SENATOR JOE BIDEN (D), DELAWARE: The next person that refers to an FBI report as being worth anything obviously doesn't understand anything. FBI explicitly does not in this or any other case reach a conclusion. Period. Period. So, Judge, there's no reason why you should know this. The reason why we cannot rely on the FBI report, you wouldn't like it if we did, because it is inconclusive. They say he said, she said and they said, period. So, when people waive an FBI report before you, understand, they do not. They do not. They do not reach conclusions. They do not make, as my friend points out more adequately, they do not make recommendations. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Remember, all witnesses, all in this case gave sworn statements under the threat of felony. Democrats have turned this important process into a political sham. They have turned advice and consent into destroy, malign. They can't care whose life is destroyed in this process, obviously they don't. Did they not see what went on today, to Judge Kavanaugh? The impact on him and his family? The women making these allegations as they withheld them for all these weeks? They just want Kavanaugh stopped at all costs. Today, no one seems to put this in better perspective than Senator Lindsey Graham, what was a powerful moment when he took on the Democrats. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: What you want to do is destroy this guy's life, hold his seat open and hope you win in 2020 -- you said that, not me. You've got nothing to apologize for. When you see Sotomayor and Kagan, tell them that Lindsey said hello, because I voted for them. I would never do to them what you've done to this guy. This is the most unethical sham since I've been in politics. I cannot imagine what you and your family have gone through. Boy, you all want power, God, I hope you never get it. I hope the American people can see through this sham, that you knew about it and you held it. You had no intention of protecting Dr. Ford. None. She's as much of a victim as you are. God, I hate to say that because these have been my friends, but let me tell you, when it comes to this, you are looking for a fair process? You came to the wrong town at the wrong time, my friend. To my Republican colleagues, if you vote no, you are legitimizing the most despicable thing I have seen in my time in politics. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Senator Graham will join us in studio in just a moment. And after those passionate remarks, Senator Orrin Hatch called these proceedings worse than any other confirmation proceedings in history, including those of Judge Bork and Judge Thomas. Let's watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. ORRIN HATCH (R), UTAH: The circus atmosphere that has been created since my Democratic colleagues first leaked Dr. Ford's allegations to the media two weeks ago, after sitting on them for six weeks, I might add, has brought us the worst in our politics. It certainly has brought us no closer to the truth. Anonymous letters with no name and no return address are now being treated as national news. Porn star lawyers with facially implausible claims are driving the new cycle. I hate to say this, but this is worse than Robert Bork and I didn't think it could get worse than that. This is worse than Clarence Thomas and I didn't think it could get worse than that. This is a national disgrace, the way you are being treated. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: This is sadly the Democratic playbook. I warn people every single two years, every four years on my radio show and right here on this show, Republicans, be prepared to be demonized, racist, sexist, misogynist, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, you want dirty air and water, you want to kill children and there will be some Paul Ryan lookalike throwing your grandmother over the cliff because Republicans want granny to die. And it's the same now with Supreme Court nominees, same predictable behavior. We've now come to expect this. This has to change, this country deserves better. The people of this country deserve better. These people in D.C., and this swamp, they are supposed to serve us, you, we, the people. It's not about a Republican, Democrat, liberal or conservative here. This is pure human decency that was in play today. They destroyed this man and his family. They bludgeoned him, all for the sake of power. There was zero presumption of innocence here or due process. Now, the Democratic Party, every two, four years, every time we have a nomination to the Supreme Court, we know what to expect, the party of slander, besmirchments, smears, character assassination, the party of no due process, no presumption of innocence, the party that rushes to judgment. Look at all the high profile cases rushed to judgment -- the Duke lacrosse case, the Cambridge police acted stupidly, Ferguson, Missouri, Baltimore, Maryland, Richard Jewell, Trayvon Martin. Is this the party that is going to decide the fate of this country? Because in 40 days, that same party wants you to go out and vote for them. Look at your screen. You see these Republican senators? These are the people who will decide the fate of the Kavanaugh nomination right there. Those are the people that will decide if we still have due process in this country. If these principles exist in this country, if we still have laws predicated on the Constitution, let them know how to vote. Call them. Tell them what's at stake. Let them know what you felt today watching these hearings, and if you are in one of the states where Donald Trump won, West Virginia, Joe Manchin, North Dakota, Heidi Heitkamp, Indiana, Joe Donnelly, you're a senators up for reelection. If they don't confirm Judge Kavanaugh and they go along with the smear campaign, if they go ahead and do that, are you going to vote for them? Now, there is a lot in the next few days, weeks and months that we're going to decide and we have a lot to get to in the course of this program tonight. I just want to say, what we are looking at here tonight, what we are looking at, you get to hold them accountable for your decisions. Never has a Supreme Court nomination been more important. This country is at a tipping point. Inalienable rights of Americans will continue or we are never going to be able to go back. Our Constitution, all these core principles hang in the balance tonight and we have one party that is throwing all of this to the wind and adopted smear, slander, personal politics and destruction. Unless good senators find a backbone and stick up for these core fundamental rights of every human being, like we've been talking about, due process, justice, law, order. Democrats take down Judge Kavanaugh, a man with impeccable service and 40-year track record, they can take down anybody, any conservative, any politician for any reason on any allegation with zero proof, ever. The Senate cannot let this happen. They cannot reward this behavior. Joining us now, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. Senator, good to see you. Thank you. I've known you a long time. GRAHAM: Yes, 20 years. HANNITY: As it was happening, I was live on my radio show, and when I had my next break, I don't think you ever had a more powerful moment in your career. I have known you a long time. GRAHAM: Thank you. Well, I just told the truth. This is not about finding the truth between Dr. Ford and Brett Kavanaugh. This is about delaying the hearing to get past the midterms, I hope they pick up the Senate and denying the seat to be filled by Donald Trump. It's not about the FBI. If you really wanted to know what the FBI thought about this, you would come forward when you first know about it. It's certainly not about protecting Dr. Ford. The one thing I learned beyond any doubt today, any doubt, is they never intended to protect Dr. Ford. And everything I believed I knew about Brett Kavanaugh, I am now more convinced than ever that he didn't do it. That he is the right guy to be on the court. That Ms. Ford has got a problem and destroying Judge Kavanaugh's life won't fix her problem. And if we legitimize this, God help us all because both sides can do this to my friends on the other side. I would never have done this to one of your nominees. You should be ashamed. HANNITY: You voted for people that I know you did not share their judicial philosophy. GRAHAM: I would never have picked up. It used to be if you are qualified, elections matter. Here's the big picture is, elections don't matter to them. They only matter when they win. Now, when we win, when Donald Trump wins, there are no rules. There are no boundaries. President Trump today, I hope you understand why he picked Brett Kavanaugh. Not only is he incredibly qualified judge, an incredibly decent man, he and his wife are the parents of the year. If they are going to give an award for parenting, I'd give to Ashley and Brett based on what their girl -- his daughter said about who to pray for. So I'm honored to help him. If I helped him today, it's one of the highlights of my career. And to my Republican colleagues, if this guy goes down, then we don't deserve to stay in power, because it's not about power to me. It is about the process. It is honoring elections. To my Democratic friends -- Joe Manchin, I liked him a lot. Joe, you can't figure this out? Trump won by 40 points. Do you really believe that Brett Kavanaugh is a serial rapist? Do you believe any of this garbage? And I'm sorry that Dr. Ford went through this, she shouldn't have had to go through it, but I am convinced beyond any shadow of a doubt that Brett Kavanaugh is not the man that they are trying to make him and this is all political. So, Joe, I hope you'll step up. Heidi, I hope like you a lot. Joe Donnelly, great guy. Why can't you talk about whether or not we met the burden here? If he had to prove he was innocent, he did it for me, but he didn't have to. HANNITY: Let me ask you -- Republicans met in conference tonight in the Senate. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: Bring us inside the meeting as much as you are able to share. GRAHAM: That went well. I think everybody was blown away by Brett. Can you imagine doing what he did today? HANNITY: No. GRAHAM: Your life is ripped apart. You've had a 32-hour meeting. You met with every senator. They've known about this for weeks and they spring it on you at the end. Then it goes to where Avenatti comes out and says that you're a serial rapist, you drug women. HANNITY: Gang rape and boys lining the halls and -- GRAHAM: And your whole life is just absolutely destroyed. I think Republicans today felt like Brett Kavanaugh not only met the test, passed the test, that this is political. And I will be brokenhearted if the Senate rejects this good man. HANNITY: Bob Corker said yes. GRAHAM: Good for Bob. HANNITY: Jeff Flake off-camera said this is a tough one. (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: Well, I would say to -- I would say, Jeff, it is tough because I don't know what happened to Dr. Ford but I've been a lawyer all my life, I use to do this for a living. Jeff, you could get a warrant. She can't tell you where it happened or what happened, it's not he said, she said, it's she said and they said. All people named said it didn't happened. HANNITY: All four. GRAHAM: And you can't get the date and the time. And my God, he went through a counter of 1982, this is the most squared away guy that I've ever met my life. I was just honored to be in his presence. If, again, I've never seen anybody command a room like he did. I've never seen anybody more sincere and I've never seen anybody more used and abused than Dr. Ford was by the Democrats. HANNITY: Let me ask you, it seems -- Jeff Flake, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and I've actually been quoting Susan Collins because she is the one that rightly pointed out from the beginning, this has been unfair to both sides here. And she's right. She's been right about that. GRAHAM: Yes. Well, what I would tell Susan is that, if you are the way they say Brett is, you wouldn't have the life Brett has lived. You wouldn't have 65 women coming forward, you wouldn't have six FBI investigations that found nothing, you wouldn't be in this profile of a job. He's been in the highest levels of government, a target for 26 years. He found out about it after the hearing was over, they knew about it and they sat on it, there is no corroboration. And the Avenatti thing tells you all they need to know about where they are headed with him. If they delay this, there will be more coming and he doesn't deserve it. It's time to vote. HANNITY: The Senate judiciary committee will meet tomorrow morning. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: Walk us through the process. The full Senate will vote we expect, what, Tuesday? GRAHAM: Yes, we will vote tomorrow in committee. I will go through why I believe he is qualified and capable and I will tell you without hesitation what I think has happened here in the confirmation process. If this is the new norm, God help us all. I hope he will get reported out of committee along a party line vote. I hope Jeff can get there. I would just stress again, that this man has led an incredible life and everything they are saying about him is made up and it comes out of the left field. And it's not corroborated. Please don't take away everything he has done. He's number one in his class, ever since he's done anything. And I think we're going to get him confirmed, and if we go to the floor on the Senate, we're going to pick up some Democrats. Let me tell you this. If you live in these Trump states and you can't figure this out, good luck to you. HANNITY: Le t me ask you one last question. As you look at the emotion of today, and all that happened, -- my best friend from third grade, his name is John Gomez and he called me yesterday. He said Hannity, you always say every two or four years, Republicans are racist and sexist and my whole list as he calls late. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: And he goes, I think I understand a little more now why you always do it, because when you say these horrible things, and now we have gotten used to it, we expect it, you know, it's like my father was killed all over again. Elect Republicans and black churches will burn our or crosses will burn. Or Republicans don't want to count African-Americans in the census, Al Gore said. This has to stop, senator. GRAHAM: Those are political arguments that we can handle and people obviously don't buy in-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That's smearing, though. GRAHAM: This is destroying somebody. HANNITY: Yes. GRAHAM: I would hope and pray that I never get this desperate as a political person to destroy somebody. This was a wholesale effort to take a good man and ruin his life and it backfired on him. This is not about political arguments, this is not about what they will do or we will do, this is about the fact that they were willing to set a man up and destroy his life. HANNITY: It was hard to watch. GRAHAM: It was really hard to watch and when he talked about his daughter -- let's pray for the lady, too. This is a good man, please vote for him. HANNITY: You know, senator I think the reason your moment was so powerful is it was raw, and real and unplanned. GRAHAM: It was totally, totally real. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I think you reflected the views of many Americans. GRAHAM: You know what got me was, why won't you agree to the FBI investigation, what do you have to hide? These are the same people that sat on the information that made it impossible for us to do an investigation because they wouldn't help us. They knew it for weeks, planned what they are doing intentionally, and I am convinced to out at Dr. Ford for the political moment that we saw today and it blew up in their face. And I hope America understands that if this is the new way of doing business, we are going in the wrong direction. We have a chance to turn it around beginning tomorrow at 9.30 a.m. HANNITY: And in 40 days the American people get their chance. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: Senator, thank you so much for being with us. I appreciate it. All right. For the latest on how Capitol Hill is reacting to the hearings, we go to Ed Henry. Ed? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF White House CORRESPONDENT: Sean, good to see you. Breaking tonight as you just noted a moment ago, Republican Bob Corker he was sitting on the fence he just announced that he is a yes for Judge Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court. We are also learning that the Senate judiciary committee will meet tomorrow at 9.30 a.m. Eastern Time, expecting to vote. Then they hope to get it to the Senate floor and that's going to be the real fight it could come as early as Tuesday. Now after several hours of testimony by Dr. Ford and Judge Kavanaugh, these are still uncorroborated charges so lawmakers in both parties are basically unmoved. Some Democrats have imposed -- opposed since the night Kavanaugh was nominated and many Republicans say, as you just heard from Lindsey Graham, this was character assassination and there are several holes to Dr. Ford story. So this is going to come down to a handful of votes. Look at these folks right here. Republican Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Jeff Flake, plus Democrat Joe Manchin. Maybe a couple of other Democrats from red states. The four lawmakers you see there, they met tonight behind closed doors for 30 minutes to think about what exactly they are going to do next. They are keeping their cards close for now. Now Democratic Chris Coons tonight called for a one week delay in the proceedings, perhaps hoping to get momentum for a new FBI investigation that does not seem likely to happen. Republican John Cornyn, meanwhile, said the longer Republicans wait to vote, there will just be more unverified allegations thrown at Kavanaugh. Cornyn declaring that this idea that the judge is guilty until proven innocent is like a police state. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JOHN CORNYN (R), TEXAS: It's time to vote. The longer the nomination remains open, we know that more and more of these careless anonymous and uncorroborated allegations will be made. Unfortunately, that's part of the search and destroy process, that frankly, I think is an embarrassment to the Senate. That is sort of the lingering core concern here is about his credibility. He's worked very hard to put forward the aspects of his life that are admirable that it require boy narrative, but I think it's undeniable that there is a whole series of incidents and events in his life that also set that frat boy image. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: Republicans have only 51 votes in the Senate so they can only afford to lose one Republican. If they lose two, Kavanaugh could go down unless they get Joe Manchin or other Democrats on board, Sean. That's why we showed on the screen a moment ago, they're on the fence, they are key to all of this, Sean. HANNITY: All right. By the way, Senator Jerry Moran now say yes, that's just breaking just seconds ago. That is very good. All right. When they come back, we've got so much more reaction, a lot of more -- a lot more breaking news. We're going to break down where senators are coming out, they seem to be coming out by the minute. Bob Corker a yes, and we'll have the latest vote count when we get back. We'll check in with Matt Schlapp, Sara Carter, Carrie Severino. And later, a glaring example of huge liberal hypocrisy, Juanita Broaddrick will join us in studio. Where were these people then? Straight ahead. HANNITY: We are live in Washington, D.C., and Kristin Fisher has the very latest on how lawmakers now at this hour reacting to today's blockbuster hearings. We are getting more information by the minute. What are you hearing, Kristin? KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Yes. And also more information from the White House, Sean. President Trump said that he was riveted by this hearing. He watched almost all of it from the White House but he waited until after it was over to weigh in. And just minutes after the committee adjourned he tweeted out his support for the nominee and his disdain for the way that Democrats on the judiciary committee had treated him. He said on Twitter, quote, "Judge Kavanaugh showed America exactly why I nominated him. His testimony was powerful, honest and riveting. The Democrats search and destroy strategy is disgraceful and this process has been a total sham, an effort to delay, distract and resist. The Senate must vote." Now there was a lot of concern within the West Wing that Judge Kavanaugh hadn't been forceful enough in his interview on Fox early this week. Clearly today he did not have that problem. It's also clear that the White House was very pleased with Senator Lindsey Graham's performance. Both Kellyanne Conway and Sarah Sanders tweeted about it. During the hearing, the White House press secretary said, quote, "Lindsey Graham has more decency and courage than every Democratic member of the committee combined. God bless him." And you know, Sean, that was -- that was a real turning point, so was Kavanaugh's opening statement after what many in the West Wing considered to be somewhat of a shaky start because even they, some of them at least, conceded that Dr. Ford did appeared to be credible. But by and large, Sean, President Trump very pleased with Judge Kavanaugh's performance today. HANNITY: All right, Kristin Fisher, thank you in Washington. Here with reaction for Judicial Crisis Network, Carrie Severino, chairman of the American Conservative Union, longtime friend of Judge Kavanaugh, Matt Schlapp, Fox News contributor, Sara Carter. I don't know about all of you. Everybody that I know that watch this today, so many people said it was hard and painful. They cried. It was to watch, it was -- it was -- you saw they destroyed this man's family allegation flying around everywhere. No corroboration on any of them. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Sean, it was riveting because I think the American people saw for the first time, really saw what was happening to this man, what was happening to Judge Kavanaugh and his family. And for the first time I think we all realized as a nation, it's not that we are dismissing Dr. Ford. It's not that we are dismissing that maybe something did happen to her. But we're a system based on justice, you are innocent until proven guilty and there was no evidence other than he said, she said corroborating what happened and what Dr. Ford alleged happened to her. And I think at that point, when we hear this man cry out and say, look at what you have done to my family. Look at what you've done to our nation. Is this what we're going to do to each other? I think at that point the country took a step back and people were swayed by Kavanaugh. HANNITY: I really thought Lindsey Graham became the leader of the U.S. Senate today. MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, CONSERVATIVE UNION: Yes. I have to tell you, I've had my differences with him but I gave him a bear hug. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way-- SCHLAPP: I gave him a bear hug. You know, we kept saying as we were shouting at the TV today was like, let Lindsey -- let Lindsey speak. He understands the moment, Sean, we are in a very unique moment. We are in a moment where we could get five votes on the Supreme Court for a constitutional order. We can actually have a Senate majority that follows through on promises and we could still hold onto this House majority. It all comes down to this very basic thing, to our supporters out there, our grassroots supporters believe it. When we say we are going to do things like confirm from that list, that tweet from our president, that tweet from our president. Most presidents would have's throne this guy to the side of the first side of all this controversy. He stuck with him and I'm proud of him. HANNITY: Carrie? CARRIE SEVERINO, POLICY DIRECTOR, JUDICIAL CRISIS NETWORK: Yes. I think a lot of people say, again, very, very emotional and compelling testimony from Dr. Ford, but then Judge Kavanaugh as well, you saw that. It looks like, you know, maybe she was, as I think Kavanaugh himself said, she may have very well have experienced real sexual assault sometime in her life, but all of the facts are piling up, go to the point that he isn't the one who did it. You have all the people who she said were there, who testified and said, I don't think this party happened. I was at this party. I don't over -- even her good friend, her lifelong friend who supports her in general but says I don't think I even know Brett Kavanaugh. I don't think I was at this party. So when you get past, you know, trying to sort out the memories over the 30 years, there aren't any corroborating facts. That didn't change, in fact even some of the facts in the story shifted. What you really could see though, is the pain they had both been put through. All of that is the Senate Democrats. I think so many things came out that showed it's on their shoulders. They seem to have been manipulating this whole process, holding back the allegations. HANNITY: That was the worst part. SEVERINO: Yes. Even some-- (CROSSTALK) SCHLAPP: An orchestrated attack. An orchestrated attack. Look, there's no way, I've been in politics a long time. There is no way you have a charge of one day, followed 12 or 18 hours by another attack, and then another accusation. HANNITY: This was a 40-year career with not a single allegation in 40 years. And in the 11th and a half half-hour here than they come flying in. It's sort of like, where does he go to get his good name back? SCHLAPP: I will tell you where he goes. I'll tell you where he goes. HANNITY: Where? SCHLAPP: That, what he did today connect to the American people. SEVERINO: Right. SCHLAPP: It was raw, it was real. It was-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Both are real. SCHLAPP: Because we're split 50/50. And we just have to realize this. The Supreme Court battles are going to be blue versus red. I hate it. That's where we are. We got to make sure our people to understand what Brett told most of the fair minded Americans out there said we're better than this. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And a fair minded Democrat. Is Joe Manchin, Heidi Heitkamp, Joe Donnelly, where are they? CARTER: Yes. Where are they? But one thing we do know for sure, Sean, the American people now see what we are up against. And they look at the Democrats and they are going to look at this and they are going to say this is a sham, this is a disgrace, you run to people through the mud and they're not going to put up with it anymore. They're going to-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: This is why -- last word, Carrie, I make a big deal over every two to four years. Racist, sexist, I run through my list, because it's got to stop. SCHLAPP: It's got to stop. SEVERINO: Yes. No, we can't let uncorroborated smears ruin a good man's reputation and life of public service so I think they are right to move on to a vote. HANNITY: Will he get confirmed? CARTER: Yes. SEVERINO: Yes. SCHLAPP: Yes. HANNITY: All right. We'll see. When we come back, Juanita Broaddrick on the left's shameful double standard when it comes to sexual misconduct allegations. She along with Gregg Jarrett are coming up, next. Busy news night, stay with us. HANNITY: All right. For more on what we called selective moral outrage on this program, we bring in Juanita Broaddrick. Remember, she told the story about Bill Clinton and rape back in the 70s. Also with us, the author of the number one of the New York Times bestseller, "The Russia Hoax," Fox News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett. Juanita, I did the second interview with you, and even through this last election, a lot of the people we are hearing from now, they were silent. JUANITA BROADDRICK, ACCUSED BILL CLINTON OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT: Yes. HANNITY: They never wanted -- they didn't want an FBI investigation for you that I remember. BROADDRICK: No. Senator Feinstein, and Senator Durbin and Senator Schumer wanted nothing to do with my case. All Democrats refused to read my deposition with the independent counsel. They wouldn't touch it. HANNITY: They never once reached out to you? BROADDRICK: No. HANNITY: These people that are still there, the ones acting, you know, the ones that are so supportive of the allegations? BROADDRICK: Exactly. Exactly. No, they never reached out to me. HANNITY: When this happened to you, because I know because I've interviewed it, it was 30 minutes later you told the woman you are with and your lip was three times its normal size? BROADDRICK: Right, and bleeding. Yes, the woman came back to the room and found me when I didn't show up for the seminar and of course, I told her immediately, look at the condition I was in. My clothes were torn, my lip was huge, and I was devastated. HANNITY: And afraid. BROADDRICK: Goodness, yes. HANNITY: And nobody -- the Democrats, the same people that were acting so indignant, nothing? BROADDRICK: No, absolutely nothing. HANNITY: Gregg Jarrett, from a legal standpoint, the FBI has also said that this is not within their jurisdiction. We played Joe Biden. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Sure. HANNITY: This was a talking point for delay today, wasn't it? JARRETT: That's right. By law the FBI is not allowed to investigate a nonfederal crime. They can only do background checks, and as Biden pointed out, they simply take witness statements, they don't judge guilt or innocence or the credibility of particular witnesses. So, it was an utter canard over and over again today call for Kavanaugh to ask for an FBI investigation. HANNITY: Juanita, you were here today and even during 2016, you felt compelled to speak up about the double standard. BROADDRICK: Yes. HANNITY: What do you say to those Democrats that, clearly, this is about politics and not about what's right? BROADDRICK: Well, I clearly think if Senator Feinstein and Senator Durbin had known that I was outside, I think they should have walked out and apologize to me for what they did to me in 1999, completely turning their backs on me. HANNITY: And Kathleen and Paula-- BROADDRICK: Yes. HANNITY: -- and Jennifer, who was called a liar. BROADDRICK: Exactly, yes. HANNITY: I've known you a long time now. BROADDRICK: Yes. HANNITY: God bless you. Good to see you again. BROADDRICK: Yes, thank you so much. HANNITY: Sadly we have to talk about a double standard. BROADDRICK: I know. I know, here we go again. Yes. HANNITY: When we come back, there is some breaking news. Ed Henry will have a live report right here in Washington, as we continue. HANNITY: We go back from Washington where with Ed Henry with the very latest on Judge Kavanaugh's fate. Ed, we are hearing a lot of movement now, a lot of people making decisions after today. HENRY: Sean, that's right. HANNITY: yes. HENRU: Breaking news, Republicans coming home, you've announce that some of them Bob Corker. But new at the end of the hour now, there may be some Democrats moving towards voting for Kavanaugh. A reporter from the liberal Atlantic magazine just tweeted a few moments ago that a source close to Democrat Joe Manchin of West Virginia is saying, "short of new definitive evidence of an assault in the next few days, Manchin is likely a yes vote on Kavanaugh." The surest sign he did well today, the judge, may be that some on the left seem to be very agitated tonight with even more attacks. Someone on Capitol Hill just posted on Wikipedia the home addresses of several Republican senators including Lindsey Graham, who you had on a few minutes ago. It's an ugly practice known as doctoring so protesters can try and threaten then. Then there is former Hillary Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon, he just called the judge an attempted rapist and threatening to impeach if he wins. Quote, "If Senate GOP ignores Dr. Blasey Ford, tries to muscle and attempted racist -- rapist on the Supreme Court they will pay dearly this November. Senators up in 2020 will feel intense heat for next two years. Kavanaugh will not serve for life." That is a threat tonight from someone on the left, Sean. HANNITY: It's getting really sick, sad. We saw the impact of out today. Ed, thank you. This show will always be fair and balanced. Thank you for being with us. We have a lot more tomorrow. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is one studio over. Laura? 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We saw the impact of that today. Ed, thank you. This show will always be fair and balanced. Thank you for being with us. We have a lot more tomorrow. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is one studio over. Laura? LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, thanks so much. Fantastic analysis tonight on your show. It has been great to have in Washington as well. HANNITY: Thank you. Great to see you. Have a great show. INGRAHAM: All right, thanks so much. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE after a historic day here in the nation's capital where people are still reeling from one of the most dramatic and emotionally wrenching hearings in decades. The testimony, of course, Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and his accuser, Dr. Christine Ford, just hours ago. It can be described as fact versus emotion. And throughout this hour, we're going to examine the influence of both and where the votes stand at this hour. It's changing by the minute, according to our reporting, but we are going to be on that. You do not want to turn away from the show. Along the way, we have a powerful lineup: Newt Gingrich, Kim Strassel, Joe diGenova, Ari Fleischer, Scott Bolden, Michelle Malkin, Ben Shapiro, and one of Kavanaugh's closest friends going all the way back to high school. He mentioned her today at the hearing. So we're going to talk to her and the White House will respond. Kellyanne Conway also joins us. We are jam- packed. But we begin tonight with what I just mentioned at the top. Emotion versus fact. Should they carry equal weight in the eyes of senators as we weigh the credibility of both Kavanaugh and his accuser? First, here is the raw emotion that overwhelmed both of them. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD, ACCUSER OF BRETT KAVANAUGH: I'm here today not because I want to be. I am terrified. I am here because I believe it is my civic duty to tell you what happened to me while Brett Kavanaugh and I were in high school. BRETT KAVANAUGH, CIRCUIT JUDGE, UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT: It took the committee 10 days to get to this hearing. In those 10 long days, as was predictable and as I predicted, my family and my name have been totally and permanently destroyed by vicious and false additional accusations. FORD: But the details about that night that bring me here today are the ones I will never forget. They have been seared into my memory and have haunted me episodically as an adult. KAVANAUGH: This confirmation process has become a national disgrace. The constitution gives the Senate an important role in the confirmation process, but you have replaced advice and consent with search and destroy. FORD: Brett assault on me drastically altered my life for a very long time. I was too afraid and ashamed to tell anyone these details. KAVANAUGH: No one can question your effort. With your coordinated and well-funded effort to destroy my good name and destroy my family will not drive me out. The vile threats of violence against my family will not drive me out. You may defeat me in the final vote, but you will never get me to quit. (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM; Now, emotion is important. It's what we all lock our eyes on. But when we are weighing a seat on the highest court in the land, is that truly the best barometer? How much weight should it have? So, what about the facts? Let's examine. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) FORD: They were four boys. I remember specifically being at the house. KAVANAUGH: All four people allegedly at the event, including Dr. Ford's long-time friend, Ms. Kaiser, has said they recall no such event. FORD: I also remember my friend, Leland, attending. KAVANAUGH: "Simply put, Ms. Kaiser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh. She has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present with or without Dr. Ford." Think about that fact. FORD: During his assault, Mark came over and jumped on the bed twice while Brett was on top of me. And the last time that he did this, we toppled over and Brett was no longer on top of me. KAVANAUGH: Dr. Ford has said that this event occurred at her house near Columbia Country Club but none of those people, nor I, lived near Columbia Country Club. FORD: When I did not hear him come back up the stairs, I left the bathroom, went down the same stairwell, through the living room, and left the house. KAVANAUGH: She says confidently that she had one beer at the party, but she does not say how she got to the house in question or how she got home or whose house it was. SEN. RICHARD DURBIN (D), ILLINOIS: Dr. Ford, with what degree of certainty do you believe Brett Kavanaugh assaulted you? FORD: One hundred percent. KAVANAUGH: But I swear today under oath before the Senate and the nation, before my family and god, I am innocent of this charge. (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Here to react: Former U.S. attorney, Joe diGenova; Attorney Scott Bolden; "Wall Street Journal" editorial board member Kimberley Strassel; and former White House press secretary, Fox News contributor, Ari Fleischer. All right, we have a lot to get there, guys. First question, did we learn any facts today that lead us to believe that Dr. Ford's claims have any more merit than they did yesterday, Joe diGenova? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: The answer is no. There is no corroborating evidence. She could not provide location, time, date, place, anything that any person making a claim like this would have to provide. This was truly a remarkable moment in senatorial history. This was the equivalent of Joseph Welch telling Senator McCarthy, have you know decency, sir? The difference was Brett Kavanaugh told that to the entire 10 members of the Democratic Committee. Have they no decency? And the answer is, they do not. INGRAHAM: Scott Bolden, the Ford's recollection was shaky at various points. She couldn't definitively say when she saw -- when she saw Mark Judge or Brett Kavanaugh leave that second floor. She also couldn't say -- she wasn't saying that she hadn't been at the country club before, Columbia Country Club before. Obviously, she couldn't say how many people were at the party. And yet she could remember she had one beer, which I think was a stark way of examining the factual -- not discrepancies, but differences here. What was your reaction to that? SCOTT BOLDEN, ATTORNEY: As a former sex crimes prosecutor from New York, your, memories and details fade for sure, this with 36 years ago. But I don't think it takes away from her credibility because the fact that she didn't know the smaller details -- I'm hearing somebody, forgive me. In any event, she certainly didn't know those details. But the big details where she was able to identify him, she was able to say who else was in the room, and most importantly, all of these other witnesses, I keep hearing about these four witnesses who corroborate Kavanaugh, that is just not true in the sense of this. There are only three witnesses in that room. She went to the bathroom, she heard them go downstairs, and then she left immediately. Mark Judge is the key to credibility here -- INGRAHAM: She actually said -- hold on. She said one thing, Kimberley Strassel. She said they ping-pong down the stairs and then she said she heard them down the stairs. Ping-pong is a visual, to me. It's a visual thing. My old litigator days, I was listening to visual versus hearing. And again, it is a long time that has gone by. KIMBERLEY STRASSEL, EDITORIAL BOARD MEMBER, WALL STREET JOURNAL: You can go through all of these facts and everyone will find some discrepancies here or there. The bottom line was what you just showed on this TV, is that every person she has named has denied that this event ever happened. And I think to your point, I think everyone is using the wrong word here. It's not credibility that matters. Every day, we have opposing parties that go into court or into employment disputes, both sides appear credible. We don't make a judgment based on a popularity contest. We do it based on facts and evidence. And that is what matters here. And the burden here today was to provide some further evidence to this claim and that was not met. And Brett Kavanaugh, once again, forcefully denied under oath and risk of perjury that this ever happened. INGRAHAM: Ari Fleischer, right now, we have a lot of anchors on television who came out, and commentators, who found Ford to be exceptionally credible and sympathetic. OK? I think -- do we have montage of that, Tony (ph)? All right, let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She comes across very credible. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Difficult to watch somebody who has a credible story of being victimized. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think the public has heard such a believable, credible, emotion human story. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The credibility of her testimony is just unparalleled. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Unparalleled, powerful. Those were two words we heard. Exceptional, brave, courageous. How do you combat that with someone who is defiant and strong and a lot of the commentators said, well, Brett Kavanaugh was angry. I would be angry if I was accused of these things wrongly, too. I would be really angry. But that was used against him today, Ari. ARI FLEISCHER, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: You know, Laura, when something like this happens, you go to human instincts. You don't go to politics. You go to what motivates people. And when you are accused of something you did not do, you are high, you are emotional. It is the natural reaction that any innocent person would properly have. That is what I saw and Brett Kavanaugh today. I did think that his accuser was compelling, but you know what? What kind of a country do we have if just because someone is making an accusation and that comes across as compelling, that is good enough to presume guilt? We can't be that country. We have to have facts. We have to have proof. We have to have evidence. Otherwise, no one is safe. And so it was a tough day for both witnesses. But at the end of the day, without proof, how can you hold off Brett Kavanaugh's nomination, particularly after he came across as so compelling, truth telling, and credible? INGRAHAM: Joe, there was a moment where they were discussing the therapist notes. A lot of us thought that the therapist notes would be produced to the committee because that was one of the dispositive points from her team. She told the therapist about the attack -- not the name of Kavanaugh but the attack in 2012. Those notes were not produced. Right. INGRAHAM: This is where the back and forth with Mitchell, the prosecutor - - former prosecutor from Arizona, and Ford. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RACHEL MITCHELL, SEX CRIMES PROSECUTOR: Did you show a full or partial set of those marriage therapy records to "The Washington Post?" FORD: I don't remember. I remember summarizing for her what they said. I am not quite sure if I actually gave her the record. MITCHELL: OK. So it's possible that the reporter did not see these notes? FORD: I don't know. I can't recall whether she saw them directly or if I just told her what they said. MITCHELL: OK. Have you shown them to anyone else besides your counsel? FORD: Just the counsel. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, Joe, she -- it is understandable to forget things from 36 years ago, I guess, but remember other facts, we all kind of do that. But that was interesting. It is just seven weeks ago. She couldn't remember whether she gave notes -- that is therapist notes. It would seem that you would really remember that. No one wanted to touch this. Everybody was afraid, I think, because of the "Me Too" hashtag. Everyone is afraid to ask tough questions. They asked a lot of tough questions to Brett Kavanaugh. Didn't kind of push that. I was surprised. Your reaction? DIGENOVA: The bottom line is, this is a hearing for someone's life, Brett Kavanaugh. Those notes should have been produced. They were not produced. And that is a telling tact. The failure to produce means there is something to hide. Remember how the Democrats say, why are you hiding this? Why are they hiding that? The other thing that Ms. Mitchell did that that was very telling, she showed that Dr. Ford flies an awful lot for somebody who doesn't want to fly from California to the east coast when in fact she was in Bethany Beach, Delaware from August until now. They lied. The Democrats lied about where she was. They said she was California and couldn't get here which is why the committee offered to fly to California to interview her. Guess what? If they had flown there, she would have been in Dewey Beach, Delaware. INGRAHAM: She went up to New Hampshire -- DIGENOVA: Oh, she flew around a lot. INGRAHAM: We have to get to this yearbook stuff in a moment, but there was another moment about the polygraph, Scott, where she was asked about the polygraph and was asked -- and again, the senators didn't -- I mean, the point didn't get nailed on this. I don't understand why. Mitchell just was too slow. I don't know. It was like, come on! That whole format was a joke. But she was asked about the polygraph, did anyone recorded? And she said, well, there was a laptop -- were there notes? I think the committee wanted whatever those notes were or recording, but she said, I don't know. Now if you are doing a polygraph, you know if there is a video camera on you. I mean, yes, anyone think that is unreasonable thing to think. But there was no follow-up on any of the stuff and I was like, come on, as a lawyer, I was like, you don't remember? We are supposed to believe your credibility from 36 years ago. I'm sorry, but I thought it was odd. Both of you quickly. BOLDEN: It's a highly technical process. The fact that she couldn't remember whether it was recorded or not, or I thought who paid for it was another point of contention that seemed to be an uncomfortable moment. INGRAHAM: She didn't even know when it was. First, she said it was the day of the funeral. Then she said it was, well, it might not have been that day. So there was a lot -- all I'm trying to say -- BOLDEN: She took the polygraph in the past (ph). INGRAHAM: Very few specific questions. All right, I got to ask this yearbook. I want Kim and Ari to both weigh in on this. Ari, you took particular offense to the pathetic obsession over the yearbook at Georgetown Prep. This is where the Supreme Court is going to yearbook. I want to play for you this exchange with Senator Whitehouse from Rhode Island. I want you and Kim to assess. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D), RHODE ISLAND: What is the word "ralph" mean in that? George (ph), have you, I don't know if it's "buffed" or "boofed," how do you pronounce that? KAVANAUGH: That refers to flatulence. We were 16. That's my recollection. If we want to talk about flatulence at age 16 on a yearbook page, I'm game. WHITEHOUSE: Devil's triangle? KAVANAUGH: Drinking game. WHITEHOUSE: They are, like, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven F's in front of the fourth of July. KAVANAUGH: One of our friends, Squee, when he said the F-word starting at a young age, that kind of a wind up to the F-word. (END VIDEO CLIP) (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Ari, you and Kimberley are going to -- STRASSEL: Why are we having this discussion? We are having it because we got to the point, as we just said, where she's marshaled no new evidence here and you can't really go anywhere further down the road on the supposedly crime that happened. So instead we are putting on trial high school drinking and yearbook phrases. INGRAHAM: But her drinking never came up. STRASSEL: Well, a lot of things never came up. INGRAHAM: I'm saying, why -- if Brett Kavanaugh's beers and how many beers -- but why is that not relevant? BOLDEN: Republicans were scared to death to question her. INGRAHAM: They're scared. Everybody is scared. But this is a guy's life on the line. Hold on. Ari, go ahead. FLEISCHER: Let me jump in. The yearbook episodes were one of the saddest stories we saw today. The notion that a 67-year-old United States senator think what you put in your yearbook when you're a 17-year-old is relevant to your life today, and as a measure of a man, is preposterous. At one point I thought he was going to say, you were in the French club. Does that have to do with kissing? What point were they trying to make about these things in a high school kids yearbook? Well, this is a terrible road to go down for our country. INGRAHAM: I want to look at -- there is a real clear investigation, real clear investigation to actually dug up the Holton-Arms yearbook that had been mysteriously, like the entire social media profile of Dr. Ford, scrubbed from the internet. An odd thing to scrub. They scrubbed all the Holton-Arms yearbooks. We have the terror of the headline. "Suppressed Blasey Ford Yearbooks Reveal Fast Times at Holton-Arms." Here's a key paragraph. "Her own school yearbooks in which parents took out paid ads, celebrated "boys and beer" and pictured beer bottles and beer cans and scenes of boys and girl drinking at parties. One published a photo of Ford and other girls at a Halloween party alongside a caption boasting of "passing out" after playing "Quarters" and other binge-drinking games." Her father, Ralph Blasey, was president of the local country club. OK, big deal. What I'm saying, if you are going to harp on Brett Kavanaugh's drinking, why is everybody's high school years not on the table at this point? BOLDEN: Because it is not the part of the equation that you and your guests are leaving out. And that is this, Brett Kavanaugh painted himself into this corner by making out like he was a choir boy that didn't drink a whole lot. DIGENOVA: He didn't say that. BOLDEN: Yes, he did. INGRAHAM: He said he didn't blackout. He didn't say that at all. He said he didn't blackout. BOLDEN: He said he didn't drink that -- INGRAHAM: A lot of people don't blackout. BOLDEN: I didn't say he didn't blackout. I'm talking about whether he participated in heavy drinking while he was there. INGRAHAM: Half of those senators, Scott, wouldn't be on that panel! Hang around Capitol Hill long enough! Hang around Capitol Hill long enough! Joe, do you know -- you know like I do! DIGENOVA: Go to monocle right now! INGRAHAM: Go to monocle right now. Right now. These guys are bombed more times and I want to count over the last 25 years that I have been here. DIGENOVA: Dr. Ford is a deeply troubled person. She has a history of psychological discord. She had a very terrible life and at Holton-Arms. It's a very serious problem. She went to the west coast for one reason. She had so many problems in that school that they sent her away. She is a very sad woman. I felt very sorry for her today because of the way the Democrats used her and abused her. But I felt more sorry for the daughters and the wife of Brett Kavanaugh, and may I say to Senator Lindsey Graham, today he is my hero for what he said. Everybody in this country wanted to say to the 10 Democrats on the committee, have you know shame? STRASSEL: I will push back a little bit. I know I am surrounded by a lot of lawyers here and so you see a witness and you just want to tear into them. My point is, what was one of the point of this -- the important point, she could not marshal any new evidence, and he made a very strong commitment. Was there any benefit other than potentially to really upset some Republicans who were watching this and wanting to see a fair process and wanting to see her treated with a lot of dignity and respect, would there have been a benefit to really going after her? INGRAHAM: You must understand what I'm saying. Guys, I'm not saying going after her. Joe, you know this from your days. You can ask questions. OK, just answer simple questions. They were really tough on Brett Kavanaugh. I mean, they were really tough on him. STRASSEL: This hearing was never going to be equal that way. INGRAHAM: Again, I think everyone is worried, Ari, that women are watching and women aren't going to vote for Republicans. I think a lot of women watched this and they think, I have brothers, sons, and husbands, and coworkers who I don't want one obligation uncorroborated to destroy them. It might be -- this can be true but I think -- I could see why people say that she seems sympathetic but maybe it is because I know Brett Kavanaugh for 28 years. I know the kind of person he is. That probably does color what I think about all of this. But I think the Republicans were saved -- the day was saved by Brett Kavanaugh and Lindsey Graham. Guys, we got to on to Kellyanne because she is here. Ari, I'm so sorry. I couldn't have you all for the whole hour. I wish I could get the whole panel going. Thank you all. President Trump apparently buoyed by Kavanaugh's performance today, tweeted shortly after it ended, "Judge Kavanaugh showed America exactly why I nominated him. His testimony was powerful, honest, and riveting. Democrats search and destroy strategy is disgraceful and this process has been a total sham and an effort to delay, obstruct, and resist. The Senate must vote." Joining us now with more from the White House tonight is Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president. Kellyanne, what is the mood tonight? I know the president was very pleased with Brett Kavanaugh's appearance before the committee. But what is next? What will be the next move for the White House given the fact that we still don't know if we have the votes from the Republicans on the hill? CONWAY: Laura, thanks for having me. What the president saw in Judge Kavanaugh when he first met with him and consider nominating him to the United States Supreme Court is what the whole country saw today. A man of great self possession and composure who also was able to show emotion and empathy for those he feels are being wronged, certainly himself. But more importantly, the process. His young daughters, his wife, his parents. All of the women who have come forward to support him. His high school friends who are now being dragged into this, even though they have said that they cannot corroborate these allegations. INGRAHAML Kellyanne, there's a lot of commentators on T.V. who are like, Brett showed he had this underneath seething rage. And I heard one person say, oh, because if he could be so ticked off at this, imagine what he does when he has a few drinks in him. I actually heard someone say that. CONWAY: Laura, respectfully, you got to change the channel or put on the radio once a while. I didn't see any of that because it's not relevant. I think Brett Kavanaugh actually spent two weeks, two plus weeks, watching and listening to people trash him where he was not able to respond. The sanctimonious pundits pontificating and prevaricating about a man they hardly know. All they know about him is that he has 300 opinions and a yearbook page. And the Senate Democrats today in the Judiciary Committee actually were far more interested in a yearbook page by a 17-year-old boy then 300 opinions he has authored as a man. Think about what that says about our process. I thought today was a tour de force by Judge Kavanaugh. He put it all on his shoulders. He is going to run through the tape and labored out in the field in pure Trump fashion. I thought Judge Kavanaugh channeled his inner Clarence Thomas and his inner Donald Trump because he is not going to allow them to besmirch a good man's reputation and -- yes, go ahead. INGRAHAML Kellyanne, do you think that the decision to bring in Ms. Mitchell, the former sex crimes prosecutor -- was that effective? I know you work for the White House and everybody says it was great. But I got to say, I didn't think it was great. I didn't think that Mitchell -- she seems like a really smart person, a really nice person, I don't know if it was the format, but it all seemed a little too plotting and a little to like a deposition instead of, this is a performance. And, you know, I don't know. I just -- I thought Lindsey Graham at the Republicans actually did a better job than Mitchell with the witness, with the accuser. CONWAY: I think what people will ultimately remember from today is Judge Kavanaugh because -- let's not forget what today is and what today is not. Today is not a civil proceeding or a criminal proceeding, a meeting by the "Me Too" movement. It is not a trial by T.V. It is another step in the Senate confirmation process for Judge Kavanaugh to go to the Supreme Court. We should not lose sight of that. I think they'll remember him they'll remember him because he batted down the allegations, showed, I would say, emotion but also empathy. People couldn't decide whether they were mad at him for showing -- for channeling the anger that he has towards Senate Democrats who he said call him evil and question his judgment and said nothing, absolutely nothing while -- (CROSSTALK) CONWAY: Who? INGRAHAM: Did you think she was empathetic, Dr. Ford, the accuser? Did she seem credible? CONWAY: Yeah, I do think -- (CROSSTALK) CONWAY: Not as a woman. I don't like that. I should say that she came across as compelling and sympathetic. And I've been saying for two weeks now, a week now, that it's true that something may have happened to her, something terrible may have happened to her. It just didn't involve him. He said today under oath, he doesn't doubt that she was sexually assaulted or harmed by someone, somehow, somewhere, but that he has had many times now under oath, it wasn't him. I thought what Judge Kavanaugh did today is an exercise in the way people should treat people who mistreat them and I will tell you why. He did not draw first blood. When he first gave the 34 hours of sworn testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee, Laura, he showed respect. The Democrats answered with rumination. He showed deference. They answered with destruction. He has watched them trying to destroy him and his name. And you know what? He responded in kind. I don't think they were ready for that. The Democrats' questions were terrible. They should have asked Ms. Mitchell to stay for a couple more hours. Their questions were terrible. A few of them -- INGRAHAM: Yeah. CONWAY: -- talked about the three favorite people, me, myself, and I. Most of them gave speeches, but they kept repeating the same thing -- INGRAHAM: They're obsessed with drinking. CONWAY: Well, he was really agitated tonight, not Brett Kavanaugh. Do you know who was agitated? The left. Because they see that Donald Trump -- President Trump was on the precipice of having his second Supreme Court nominee confirmed, along with 26 or so U.S. circuit court nominees. INGRAHAM: Kellyanne Conway, thank you so much. CONWAY: They did everything -- they got Neil Gorsuch on there. And then they said, you better stop the next one, and this is the way they tried to stop him and look at him today. INGRAHAM: Yeah. Brian Fallon's tweet and that whole resistance group -- it is reprehensible. Thank you so much, Kellyanne, for joining us. CONWAY: I want to say something. He better stay out of my face because that is just rude. As someone who has worked for Hillary Clinton, probably hasn't worked for an honorable person like Brett Kavanaugh in a while (INAUDIBLE) again. INGRAHAM: All right. Thanks so much. And I want to bring a Newt Gingrich now, the author of "The New York Times" bestseller, "Trump's America." You've heard a lot tonight. I want to get your reaction to a truly impassioned - - I think it was "the moment" other than Kavanaugh's opening statement. The moment of the day from Lindsey Graham. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: If you wanted a FBI investigation, you could have come to us. What you wanted to do is destroy this guy's life, hold his seat open, and hope you win in 2020. You've said that. Not me. You've got nothing to apologize for. When you see Sotomayor and Kagan, tell them that Lindsey said hello, because I voted for them. I would never do to them what you've done to this guy. This is the most unethical sham since I've been in politics. Are you a gang rapist? KAVANAUGH: No. GRAHAM: I cannot imagine what you and your family are going through. Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it. I hope the American people can see through this sham. That you knew about it and you held it. God, I hate to say it because these have been my friends. But let me tell you, when it comes to this, you're looking for a fair process, you came to the wrong town at the wrong time my friend. To my Republican colleagues, if you vote no, you're legitimizing the most despicable thing I have seen in my time in politics. (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Newt, I've never seen anything like that moment and I've been in this town for almost 30 years. I can't believe I'm saying that. Your reaction to that pivotal moment? NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER SPEAKER OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES: I think that moment justified Lindsey Graham's entire career. He was courageous, blunt, honest, direct, emotional and effective. This has been the most despicable behavior by a major party in modern history. This is a deliberate, vicious character assassination, hurt the guy's daughters, hurt his mother, hurt his wife, hurt his reputation. They didn't care. You are watching people on that panel, Democrats on that panel, who know it's a lie. They know it's a lie. They know the way that Feinstein did this was utterly, totally despicable. They went along. My big question is, is there a single Democrat with the guts to stand up and vote for this judge because they know this is sickening? I want to see whether it is Manchin or Heitkamp or any of them. Do they have the guts to stand up to the left and say, this is exactly what is wrong with modern America? Because this is a despicable act of utter character assassination by people who frankly have behaved in an evil way, unworthy of the United States. INGRAHAM: We had Heitkamp as possibility. Manchin looks like he could be voting yes. Someone like a Joe Donnelly, Claire McCaskill. I mean, this is where fairness and just basic sense of decency, you would think would kick in because the tables can be turned on the Democrats, Newt. and although the Republicans would never do this. I want to play something because you mentioned it, Newt. Dianne Feinstein and the leak. Both Mike Lee and John Cornyn tried to hit her on this idea that this document just kind of appeared from her office and ended up in the hands of the press. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JOHN CORNYN (R), TEXAS: Can you tell us that your staff did not leak it? SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN, (D) CALIFORNIA: I don't believe my staff would leak it. I have not asked that question directly, but I do not believe they would. CORNYN: Do you know that? I mean, how in the world did that get in the hands of the press? FEINSTEIN: The answer is no. The staff did not. CORNYN: Have you ask your staff, or other staff member of the Judiciary Committee? FEINSTEIN: I just did. Pardon me? Well, Jennifer reminds me I've asked her before about it, and that's true. CORNYN: Somebody leaked it if it wasn't you. (END VIDEO CLIP) LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Wait a second, she just said her staff, she didn't ask her staff, which is unbelievable, if a document leaks from your office. And then she said, oh, no, she just reminded me I did. I thought that was just a shattering moment for Dianne Feinstein. That was one of the most embarrassing moments of this whole day. NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER: I think that Senator Feinstein, who was once a responsible and an honorable person, for whatever reason, maybe because she is challenged from the left in California in the election this year, but for whatever reason this has all gotten out of control. The fact is the Republicans are to file ethics charges. They ought to go after her staff. The things -- this could have been handled in the middle of the summer. She had the letter. She could have brought it in an orderly way, they could have had a reasonable conversation. They have deliberately created -- this is all deliberate. None of this is an accident. They have deliberately created a firestorm of character assassination at the last possible moment. And I just want to go back for a second about these other Democrats. Remember that North Dakota has voted 16 of the last 17 elections for a Republican president who favored a conservative judge. Indiana has voted 15 of the last 17 elections for a conservative who wants conservative judges. Montana has voted to 15 of last 17 elections. If there is any sense of representing the will of those states, those senators have an enormous moral pressure to vote for this judge because he fits what the people of their states have voted for. And if there's any sense of decency, Democrats from other states ought to really this weekend take a little while and go pray about this. Their party has genuinely undermined and sickened the process of United States. INGRAHAM: I think if you are looking for decency, you are looking to Washington, D.C., it's probably not the best place to go, Newt. GINGRICH: I'm an optimist. INGRAHAM: You are, Newt. That is why we love having you want. Thanks so much for being on with us tonight. And do not go anywhere. We still have so much more reaction and analysis about this hearing from Michelle Malkin, Ben Shapiro, a close friend of Brett Kavanaugh who he mentioned at today's hearing, so stay right there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think we just saw a man struggling to keep himself from disintegrating, from falling apart on national TV. He roared with anger, un-judicious, raw anger. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Listening to judge Kavanaugh, and it was surprising to me that he seemed like a bully. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The most striking to me was the anger. The way he portrayed himself at the outset of his hearing today, he looked unhinged. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He was angry and belligerent, and it was kind of scary. That is not the temperament of a federal judge. It's completely everything that a federal judge isn't was that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: She must not have appeared before many federal judges, because I have and I clerked for them, and guess what, they can get angry. The media didn't like the angry Judge Brett Kavanaugh. They were criticizing him a day ago for being too meek and looked like he was too scared. So he is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. But in case the media hadn't covered themselves in glory up to this point, there was this tweet. From "The Washington Post." "Kavanaugh's sexual assault hearing turns partisan as Republican senators lash out at treatment of Supreme Court nominee." I want to bring in Michelle Malkin, she's a CRTV host, Helgi Walker, attorney and former colleague and friend of Brett Kavanaugh, and Democratic strategist Will Jawando. Helgi, I want to go to you first because you know Judge Kavanaugh very well, as do I. Your take on this hearing, but specifically this criticism of his demeanor, and trying to make his righteous indignation, is then a reason for disbelieving what he is saying about this accusation. HELGI WALKER, FORMER COLLEAGUE OF KAVANAUGH: He can't win for losing. When people are accused of something wrongly, they have a strong reaction. Brett was indignant, offended, and all the things that a person, a good person, would be when they have been wrongly accused on a national stage and their name has been dragged through the mud. You'd be upset, too. And it wasn't anger, Laura. It was the goodness in Brett coming out to say this is wrong and I am not going to take this anymore, and I'm really glad he did that. INGRAHAM: Michelle, the accuser, Dr. Ford, was on in the morning, and by the time she finished, so, she was like a combination of Rosa Parks, she was -- MICHELLE MALKIN, CONSERVATIVE COLUMNIST: Joan of Arc. INGRAHAM: Yes, Joan of Arc, Rosa Parks. She was the heroine of all time because of her performance. And she was built up as extremely credible, extremely sympathetic. And yet not a lot of factual advancement in the underlying narrative. But where do you go from here? MALKIN: Zero factual corroboration, zero. In fact, there were even more flubs and more changes and more inconsistencies and deeper gaps in her memory, which she said was seared by the details of the alleged incident, and apparently it seared a hole in her brain because she still can't get all of her facts straight. And I have to say that in particular, I find Senator Hirono's performance to be an embarrassment, not only to my gender, our gender, Laura, but to all thinking people, because I think that she represents the most heinous string of radical feminist ideology that is trying to upend bedrock principles of the presumption of innocence and the rights of any accused. They keep repeating and parroting over and over again that the accuser, Ford, is not on trial. Well, neither is Judge Kavanaugh. And yet he has been convicted and hung by these hang them high justice feminists who are cheering that Georgetown law school students out in front as a cult with men are trash t-shirts. That is what a thinking society has devolved into. INGRAHAM: That is a real winner t-shirt, men are trash. So the man on our panel, Will, good to have you back. Not trash. WILL JAWANDO, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: That's a great intro. INGRAHAM: I don't really get that whole men are trash thing. But this is what Mazie Hirono, senator from Hawaii. She sent out a fundraising email today on this saga. She said "I'm spending every minute of my day fighting the Republicans who are desperate to rush Brett Kavanaugh's nomination and deny a fair investigation into the credible sexual misconduct allegations against him." She later apologized for the email fundraising. So is this about protecting Dr. Ford and women or is this about raising money or and galvanizing are based? JAWANDO: It's about protecting all women and all people who come out and say that they have been a victim of sexual abuse. The real thing that you saw today was that we did not have a fair hearing. We have a statement written by a lawyer in the case of Mark Judge where he was not tied back to cross-examination. He was not subject to actually having to talk to a physical person and be investigated and be asked questions. And the attacking of Dr. Ford, the cowardice by the Republican members of the Judiciary Committee to not be even able to ask her a question and divert that off to a prosecutor, that was the story for me. INGRAHAM: Do you think that she was treated disrespectfully today? Is out with you are saying? JAWANDO: I do, by the fact that they refused to ask her a question. INGRAHAM: What? Are you kidding me? It was kid gloves plus velvet gloves plus a big marshmallow hug. JAWANDO: She had to ask Senator Grassley, May I address you, sir -- INGRAHAM: That is her demeanor. JAWANDO: No, because they didn't want to talk to her directly. INGRAHAM: That's their prerogative. JAWANDO: It's not their prerogative. It's unprecedented. INGRAHAM: Five days ago it was these white men are going to be questioning this poor victim. Then they said, OK, we're going to bring in a woman who is actually an expert. I particularly did not think it was very effective. JAWANDO: And they kicked her out. And then when -- INGRAHAM: So which one is it? You can't decide. I want to add something. Helgi, Feinstein's office came out tonight because she got herself in a pickle with that question about who leaked the memo. First she said, I didn't even ask my staff. Then she said, well, actually I did ask my staff. That was a bad moment for her. Tonight she released this at 7:00 p.m. Dr. Blasey ford asked that her information be kept confidential, and it was. I only refer to her letter to the FBI after it was leaked and reporter was knocking at her door. I don't know who leaked information but it wasn't my office. My office did assist her in her process of attaining counsel, which was entirely appropriate. Is that entirely appropriate for the Senate to be getting the counsel, the lawyer for the witness in a confirmation? I think that is wild. How is that appropriate? WALKER: I have never heard that. I think the timing of this and the suspicious connections here show that this is not really, with all due respect, about the rights of women. This is about blocking Judge Kavanaugh from taking Justice Kennedy's seat. And yes, it's outrageous. JAWANDO: If it was about that, they could have done a lot of other tactics. You note -- WALKER: They could have not held this and dropped it on -- INGRAHAM: We are retelling the whole territory. They had the allegations for 45 days, they waited for the opportune moment. Michelle, you've written about it, we've talked about it. And I think it was patently obvious today. And Dianne Feinstein stumbled when she was asked about that. You know something? Because she didn't have her narrative strayed. She had to send out a cover-my-you-know-what statement at 7:00 p.m. because she knew she stepped in it in that hearing. She embarrassed herself today. Guys, love the statement, love the segment. Ben Shapiro and the national director of Code Pink debate next. You've got to stick around for this one, my friend. Don't go away. INGRAHAM: As we've said repeatedly over the past few days, the Democrats set this trap for the start with a circus-like atmosphere at Judge Kavanaugh's original Senate hearing which is what makes the repeated calls for an FBI investigation today so transparent. Remember, every one of them on the panel signed a letter yesterday insisting that Kavanaugh should withdraw before this hearing. So what is this really a about? Here to debate, Ben Shapiro, "Daily Wire" editor in chief and host of the "Ben Shapiro Election Special" right here on FOX, and Code Pink national director Ariel Gold, who was at the court today protesting. Ben, let's start with you. Your take on this, emotional day, but were the facts advanced in order to bolster Ms. Ford's credibility? BEN SHAPIRO, HOST, "THE BEN SHAPIRO SHOW": They weren't. There was no corroborative evidence provided, not one single shred, not one single iota. That doesn't mean that Ford didn't tell a credible story. It doesn't mean that her story wasn't emotionally resonant. But it does mean that we can't simply destroy a man's life and career based on an uncorroborated allegation no matter how much we have sympathy for the person making the allegation. And there was not one shred of supporting evidence that was brought to back her account. Kavanaugh's denials were just as sincere, they were just as emotionally affecting. And I don't see any reason to suggest -- by the way, the evidence is more on his side than it is on her. So I don't see any reason to suggest that Kavanaugh's nomination ought to end based on what happened today. INGRAHAM: Ariel, were you happy with the Democrats performance, because it didn't seem to be bolstering her factual remembrance of what happened. It seemed more like a bunch of little speeches. ARIEL GOLD, NATIONAL DIRECTOR, CODE PINK: Let's remember, this is a lifelong appointment. And don't we want somebody for this appointment who is squeaky clean? Somebody that we are not to debating, maybe they had a severe drinking problem to the point of blacking out. And maybe they grossly sexually assault numerous women. INGRAHAM: So you're saying at this point, there was more factual evidence presented today to make an uncorroborated allegation enough to destroy a man's entire future? GOLD: Let's first of all remember -- INGRAHAM: Would you like that if that happened to you? If someone came forward and said, Ariel, you are too young. But 15 years ago, Ariel actually pushed me down a staircase, and no one was in the house, but she knows she did it, and I was so traumatized that I couldn't talk about it. And all you can say is, I've never even been at a party with his woman and she can't produce anyone who was at a party with her. Wouldn't you be mad at this hearing today if you were at a similar inquisition about getting a job and people were not believing you and saying you are angry about refuting the charge? Wouldn't you be angry? GOLD: At what point in history do we begin believing women about the problems -- INGRAHAM: So women never lie? GOLD: This country in this world with sexual assault -- INGRAHAM: Women never mistake their attackers, their identity? That never happens? GOLD: Ford actually began to disclose as early as 2012. INGRAHAM: We didn't get the notes. GOLD: Far before -- INGRAHAM: Ariel, I'm really glad you came on, but we didn't get those notes. Ben, here's a fact, though. Women are watching, women do vote, and a lot of women have gotten really jacked up and excited about this Me Too movement because they feel like it is their time, they are heard, they are taken seriously, finally. So how do the Republicans weigh that as they proceed, regardless of whatever happens with this confirmation vote? SHAPIRO: I think they simply have to state over and over again that trust but verify is still the policy with regard to allegation. A mere allegation alone is not justifying of repercussions. An allegation is not the end of the story. You can believe the woman and still recognize the must have corroborative evidence before you destroy somebody's life. Otherwise mere allegations are the end of the story, and that is not a world anybody wants to live in. It's fascinating to watch so many folks on the left who are deeply concerned most of the time with defendant's right suddenly chuck that all of the window when it comes to a specific type of allegation with a specific type of person being alleged to have committed this particular crime. INGRAHAM: Ariel, Ben, we'll have you both back. Ariel, come on radio with me tomorrow. Thank you so much for joining us. It's a very short segment. What was it like to be a lifelong friend of Brett Kavanaugh watching today? There were a lot of people in that hearing room today who have known him for a very long time. We're going to speak to one coming up next. Don't go away. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUDGE BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT NOMINEE: I intend no ill will to Dr. Ford and her family. The other night Ashley and my daughter, Liza, all of 10 years old, said to Ashley, we should pray for the woman. That's a lot of wisdom from the 10-year old. We mean no ill will. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: We are joined now by Julie Devol, his friend of 35 plus years. Julie was mentioned by Judge Kavanaugh today. Julie, I know you watched a lot of this today. The Democrats probing his drinking, trying to lead people to the impression that he's a real problem drinker. Can't have someone with that kind of problem on the court. Your reaction? JULIE DEVOL, HIGH SCHOOL FRIEND OF KAVANAUGH: It is simply not true. He was the one who was in control, he was the one who was responsible, he was the one who took us all under his wing. It's just not true. INGRAHAM: How do you think they are doing tonight? DEVOL: I thought he did an amazing job today. He spoke from the heart, and he is absolutely not guilty of this. It's just insane. INGRAHAM: How is his family doing? Have you heard? DEVOL: I just heard from the great fine, it's been traumatic for them. These little girls dealing with this and saying prayers. He's a very religious person. When he said to God, I'm not guilty of this, it was -- INGRAHAM: And it must be out for you because I knew you knew of Christine Blasey Ford. You didn't know her well but you know of her when you guys were in high school, and you are watching her today. What went through your mind? DEVOL: She wasn't part of our posse. We never saw her. So I don't even know where she comes into play. INGRAHAM: So the Holton-Arms and the Georgetown Prep, that wasn't a cross- pollinating crowd? DEVOL: No. INGRAHAM: That's more the land in school -- DEVOL: We were a Catholic school mafia. We all just hang out together. That was what -- the boys and the girls schools from the Catholic schools. INGRAHAM: Julie should know. You were there. Julie, I'm so glad you are here tonight. You've been so great throughout this whole process, a big support to Brett Kavanaugh and his wife. And thank you. We are probably going to have to have you back. You've been great to be available. So thank you so much. DEVOL: I'm happy to do it. INGRAHAM: Thanks, Julie. And up next, what is the timeline on this vote? We have new information. We'll share it with you when we come back. INGRAHAM: An adopted member of the cabinet. Set your alarms. Tomorrow morning, the Judiciary Committee will vote on Judge Kavanaugh at 9:30 a.m. I will be live on FOX News with Bret Baier and Chris Wallace with reaction. You do not want to miss it. We're getting new information by the moment about where the votes stand now. They seem to be somewhat shifting. And we're going to be on top of every aspect of this. After the committee vote, there are a couple of procedural votes, and if the GOP has the votes, we could see a Tuesday confirmation vote, the whole Senate. And we'll be here to cover it all along the way. We've had a great team effort to put this one tonight. Load-Date: September 28, 2018 End of Document Democrats' Shameless Obstruction Tactics; Michael Avenatti Pushing New Allegations; Judge Kavanaugh And Professor Ford Set To Testify In High- Stakes Senate Hearing Tomorrow; As Voting Of Lawmakers For Judge Kavanaugh Gets Nearer, Democrats Are Doing Their Last-Minute Tactic To Bring More Damning Controversy To The Supreme Court Nominee; A Man From Rhode Island Said That Two Men Named Brett and Mark Raped A Woman In A Boat Back In The `80s, But Fox Has Found Out That It's Just A Fraud, A Made-Up Story; Critics Say Women Who Accused Judge Kavanaugh Of All Sorts Don't Have The Evidence That Would Corroborate Their Allegations Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 26, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8057 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Tammy Bruce, Sara Carter, Kristin Fisher, Mark Levin, Ed Henry Guests: Joe diGenova, Maura Kane, Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: And welcome to HANNITY. We have huge, massive breaking news from the "Politico", "Wall Street Journal" just literally seconds ago. We're going to break it down for you. We are broadcasting once again live from the swamp, Washington, D.C. This stench, by the way, has never been worse. Tonight, there is no line that Democrats in this country, the left in this country, will not cross when it comes to stopping the nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh. All civility, all morality, all decency, all fairness, it has all been thrown right out the window. And right now, tonight, we are in a trench fight for what are the fundamental rights of all Americans. Democrats clearly now on a witch hunt, clearly hell-bent on destroying the name, the character, the career and even the family of Judge Kavanaugh without any due process. Zero presumption of innocence or even an added dose of common sense. You have a sleazy attention seeking lawyer by the name of Michael Avenatti, all leading the way, the number one guest on fake news CNN and MSNBC. And he, along with Nancy Pelosi and Maxine waters are the new leaders of the Democratic Party, which is now becoming a party of mob rule. No due process, no presumption of innocence. We're going to preview and review all of today's breaking news and we will go through it slowly and will set the stage for what is tomorrow's extremely important hearing, where Judge Kavanaugh and his accuser, Professor Christine Ford, will rightfully have a chance to speak. So, we will now in the next hour separate fact from fiction, justice from injustice. We will talk about Constitution and due process and bring some sanity to one of the single most important processes in our federal government. And we'll do that in tonight's D.C. sewer swamp opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. We're going to go through all of this very, very slowly, very precisely. There's lots of ground to cover in the last two minutes, even breaking news I'll get to in a second. So, tomorrow morning, we will finally get a chance to witness one of the most important hearings in history of Supreme Court nominations. As I've said many times, the 36-year-old allegation made by Professor Christine Ford against Judge Kavanaugh, I've said from the beginning, should be taken seriously. And it has been by Republicans, by the president. And at 10:00 a.m., in an open hearing, they will lay it all on the table and in the U.S. Senate, they will make an informed decision about Judge Kavanaugh. Remember, their constitutional role is advice and consent. And, of course, context is very, very important. Forty years of one's life is very important. Judge Kavanaugh has been in the public spotlight for all these decades and because of his work, he is literally faced, he has passed six deep background FBI checks. Those that know Kavanaugh the best, I school friends in college friends, those that went to law school, girlfriends, colleagues, fellow judges, clerks, those people that have all worked with him, parents of the girls he coached in basketball and other sports, Democrats and Republicans, have all praised Kavanaugh for his character, his judgment, his friendship, who he is. Throughout his entire life, he never -- until what, 12 days ago, faced any allegation of any sexual misconduct ever. And Judge Kavanaugh has had one of the most extensive track records of any federal judge and he worked one of the most highest profile federal courts. He's been there for years. And we also know that Professor Ford and her groping allegations against him have a lot of issues. We're going to go step-by-step through every allegation tonight. These charges were made to congressional Democrats, and while just a few weeks ago, not an independent law enforcement agency. And, by the way, the claim dates back to when Ford and Kavanaugh were in high school 36 years ago and Ford cannot remember a date, a location of the alleged incident. She can't remember what happened before or after the incident. The four witnesses that Ford listed to corroborate her claims, all of them deny what she is alleging and Professor Ford is represented by an attorney who pointed out on this show is a left-wing activist who once vowed to resist Donald Trump at every level and his inconsistent on important issues involving sexual harassment in the workplace. She didn't believe Paula Jones, obviously, she defended Al Franken. Now, despite all of these warning signs, it is so important that Professor Ford and Judge Kavanaugh speak under oath. It's important to take it seriously. Now, Republicans and the president have made every accommodation possible. And tonight, Democrats are doing the exact opposite. They have already convicted Judge Kavanaugh before even hearing from him, or Professor Ford. The left, so many of them, rushing to judgment on two other uncorroborated claims against Kavanaugh, allegations that are so salacious, they will literally tonight make your head spin. Now, the second claim that came out in the "New Yorker" magazine was so outrageous, so unsubstantiated that even the Trump-hating "New York Times" refused to officially report on it. In this case, a woman named Deborah Ramirez. She alleges that in the 1980s, Kavanaugh might have exposed himself to her at a drunken college party. Ramirez herself, she wasn't totally sure if it was Kavanaugh, if he was the perpetrator. According to her own words, her own account she became, quote, quickly inebriated at the party. She was, quote, her own words, foggy and slurring her words and Ramirez even acknowledged that she had significant memory gaps from that evening. Now, those Ramirez listed witnesses in her case to the incident, they've all flatly denied her charge, including her own best friends. Not a single person corroborating her story, not one. And tonight, just moments ago, we learned there is another accuser now making an anonymous hearsay claim about an incident that took place between Kavanaugh and a woman in 1998 and this anonymous NBC News report is obviously a report that I doubt NBC News would ever make about Tom Brokaw or Matt Lauer or Andy Lack. They wouldn't do it about people that they've worked with or have worked with over the years. So the question is, how was Judge Kavanaugh now supposed to defend himself from now an anonymous accuser at the 11th hour? Which now brings us to the single most sickening allegation that the left wants you to believe as absolute fact. It was brought into the public domain by -- you know him, he's on, what, fake news CNN every hour on the hour and if he is not there, he's over on conspiracy TV MSNBC -- Michael Avenatti, the bombastic, untrustworthy and fame- seeking attorney who made it his life's mission to resist and hate Donald Trump, which is fine. Avenatti's client in this case is a woman named Julie Swetnick. And at this late hour, she is alleging that between 1981 and 1983, that she attended at least 10 parties, where she claims that Judge Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge routinely drugged female partygoers. That this happened regularly, almost on a weekend basis, and even in the summer, it an organized scheme to either give them grain alcohol or give them drugs, to gang rape, train rape these victims. She also claims to have witnesses on many occasions, and also claims to have been the victim of a gang rape where Kavanaugh was present, although she did stop short of naming Kavanaugh as one of the alleged rapists. So, she's saying that they would attend parties, this was supposed to be a regular, almost weekly practice, where gang rape took place, and girls, young girls were drugged and raped. And she said nothing and 36 years, nor did anybody else who ever went to any of these parties. Not a single person. No specific locations, no specific dates were given, no names were given other than Mark Judge and Judge Kavanaugh. No other witnesses listed, no one has corroborated these claims. And during the alleged time period, Swetnick would have been enrolled in college while Kavanaugh would have been a 15 or 16-year-old high school student. She described boys waiting in line to rape drugged women. And she said she went to at least ten of these parties and many more happened and nobody ever told the teacher, a law enforcement representative, a parent, anybody, everyone that was a part of this all kept it secret. In a statement, Kavanaugh reacted to this. This is what he said. This is ridiculous and from the twilight zone. I don't know who this is and this never happened. And today, just hours after these allegations became public, 64 high school acquaintances and friends of Judge Kavanaugh -- they rushed to his defense in a statement, calling these claims, quote: Nonsense. We never witnessed any behavior that even approaches what is described in this allegation. It is reprehensible and the extensive amount of time we have collectively spent with Brett Kavanaugh, we do not recall having ever met someone named Julie Swetnick, nor did we ever observe Brett engaging in any conduct resembling that described in Ms. Swetnick's so-called declaration. Remember, Judge Kavanaugh told our own Martha MacCallum he was a virgin throughout all of high school and most of college. Can't believe we are discussing this, but we are. Here's what he said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUDGE BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE NOMINEE: People generally in high school, I think all of us have done things in high school that we look back on in high school and regret or cringe a bit. But I'm -- that's not what we are talking about. We are talking about an allegation of sexual assault. I never sexually assaulted anyone. I did not have sexual intercourse or anything close to sexual intercourse in high school or for many years thereafter. And the girls from the schools I went to and I were friends. MARTHA MACCALLUM, FOX NEWS HOST, "THE STORY": So you are saying that they're all these years in question, you are a virgin? KAVANAUGH: That's correct. MACCALLUM: You never had sexual intercourse with anyone in high school? KAVANAUGH: Correct. MACCALLUM: And through what years in college, since we are probing into your personal life here? KAVANAUGH: Many years after, I'll leave it at that. Many years after. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, today, Senator Lindsey Graham tweeted out, quote: I have a difficult time believing that any person could continue going to, according to the affidavit, 10 parties over a two-year period where women were routinely gang raped and not reported. And Graham continues, quote: Why would any reasonable person continue to hang around people like this? Why would any person continue to put their friends and themselves in danger? Isn't there some duty to warn others? And also breaking just moments before we came on air, new reports that a restraining order was filed against Julie Swetnick by her ex-boyfriend. That was in 2001. Her boyfriend tonight telling the "Politico", quote: Right after I broke up with her, she was threatening my family, threatening my wife, threatening to do harm to my baby at that time. And then she said in a telephone conversation with "Politico", I know a lot about her, she's not credible at all. He said, not at all. Look what "The Wall Street Journal" is reporting just literally minutes ago. Roughly a decade ago, Ms. Swetnick was involved in a dispute with a former employer, New York Life Insurance Company, over a sexual harassment complaint that she filed. According to people familiar with the matter representing her in the complaint was the firm run by Deborah Katz, the lawyer currently representing Dr. Ford and the company ultimately reached a financial settlement with Ms. Swetnick, according to people in "The Wall Street Journal." Now, despite everything we have now showed you, you have, and this is where we are at a crisis in this country. Many in the left, many in the media, the Democratic Party, they have already convicted judge Kavanaugh of what a horrific, life shattering claims and we've got the evidence. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a monumental defining moment this week when you have someone like Cosby going to prison and in the same breath, having Kavanaugh possibly going to the highest court in the land. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And to be honest, that is very much a white male Republican defense. To say, oh, I was a virgin, I could not have potentially sexually assaulted a woman. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Part of this backlash that we are seeing right now comes from a culture of sexism and paternalism in this country, with the patriarchy in this country has controlled everything, has silenced women, generation after generation. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is the patriarchy on full display. This is the patriarchy on full display. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Brett, Kavanaugh, I never did anything wrong. I mean, that, to me, was -- it was just not believable. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do we allow the sexual predator in chief, the admitted sexual predator in chief, to place people on the Supreme Court. He is picking the type of people that are essentially like him. And this thing a whole investigation now, it should not go forward. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: While the left, the media, and the Democrats all rush to judgment, many others rightfully are questioning why someone with serious criminal claims would utilize the services of the very political, the very anti-Trump, maybe wanting to run for president, sleazy lawyer named Michael Avenatti. Earlier today, the president had this to say about him. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If you take a look at this lawyer that just came out, he's a lowlife. He represented Democrats and nobody ever talks about that. He's a Democrat lawyer. Not a very good one, but he is a Democrat lawyer. So, it's a horrible con game. I think the people are finding it out. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I want everyone to think about this because I believe Americans are fair-minded. This isn't about Republicans or Democrat tonight at all. It is not about liberal or conservative, either. Michael Avenatti, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, now the new faces of the Democratic Party. We have an election in 41 days. Avenatti gearing up for a presidential run? This is now, and this is what we got to think about -- this is now a party of no due process, no rule of law, no Constitution, zero presumption of innocence. Do you know, it's in the last 12 days I can't find a single Democrat that is willing to defend the principle of presumption of innocence and due process? By the way, the party of Bill Clinton and Keith Ellison. So, tonight, what we are seeing from Michael Avenatti on the people on the left in this country, sadly, I tell you this all the time. They use this tactic every two and four years, character assassination. It's the number one tool in the Democratic playbook, something the president called out early today and a powerful press conference. How often do I say every two or four years, they're going to call Republicans racist? How horrible is that? Sexist and misogynist, xenophobic, and homophobic, Islamophobic, Republicans want dirty air and water and they want children to die and they want to throw granny over the cliff. We've now gotten used to it. But to say that about people, every election season, to do this with every Supreme Court nominee, here's what the president said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: They are actually con artists because they know what quality this man is and they've destroyed a man's reputation and they want to destroy it even more. I think people will see that in the midterms, what they have done to this family, the beautiful children of his, and what they have done to his wife. And they know it is a big, fat con job. They go into a room, and I guarantee you, they laugh like hell at what they have pulled off on you and on the public. They laughed like hell. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, the president, he knows the shameful tactics of the left firsthand. Remember during the presidential election, remember when "The New York Times," I think it was top fold, they falsely accused President Trump of sexual misconduct, so-called bombshell story. Well, the only problem is the source of "The Times" used denied Trump ever acted inappropriately. We know because we interviewed some of them, a number of them. Here's what the president said about that earlier today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: I was accused by I believe it was four women. You can check with Sean Hannity. You can check with Fox because they covered it very strongly, who got paid. Excuse me, excuse me. I was accused by four or five women who got paid a lot of money to make up stories about me. We caught them in the mainstream media refused to put that on television. They refused to even write about it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We actually followed up on that program, everyone else in the media ignoring and going along with "The New York Times" and what they put out. Well, I actually did some reporting and had the opportunity to interview the women from "The Times" fake new story. Here's what they said after "The Times" made the accusation. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROWANNE BREWER LANE: I've never seen him be anything but a gentleman, a very gracious to women and respectful of women. And anybody that tells me that I saw that it is wrong. He wasn't that way to me. He wasn't that way to anybody I met. I met a lot of women when he was around. He employs a lot of women. He deals with a lot of women and he respects them and they respect him. CARRIE PREJEAN BOLLER: I basically, you know, wouldn't give them a story and then they came out with their own version of it and took, you know, something out of my book and totally twisted it and made it so negative. And I have nothing but positive things to say about Donald Trump. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I don't remember the retraction in "The New York Times" either. Now, the left's character assassination strategy didn't start with President Trump, it's a time-tested practice from the Democratic Party. Remember what they did to Reagan's nominee for the U.S. Supreme Court, Robert Bork? He was never confirmed because of the fear-mongering, slander, outright lies from, of all people, a guy that left a woman to die and told nobody after he drove his car into a river, and he walked away and went home and went to bed? Chappaquiddick Kennedy. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TED KENNEDY (D-MA), FORMER U.S. SENATOR: Robert Bork's America is a land of which women would be forced into back alley abortions. Black would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids and school children could not be thought about evolution. Writers and artists would be censured at the whim of government. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And then a few years later, of course, Democrats tried to drag Supreme Court justice, has become one of the finest justices in our generation, Clarence Thomas, through the mud, 1991. Senate Democrats pulled out his former colleague Anita Hill making sexual harassment allegations against him. Sound familiar? This character assassination was so vicious and so horrible, so nasty, Justice Thomas called it a high-tech lynching. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CLARENCE THOMAS, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE: This is a circus, it's a national disgrace. And from my standpoint as a black American, as far as I'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deigned to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas. And it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, the circus of disgrace is back in Washington and these tactics don't stop at the Supreme Court nominees, many also try to destroy the character. I know, I was in Atlanta at the time of the Olympic bombing. Richard Jewell falsely accused as being the lone bomber. He fit the profile because he lived with his mother. He was listening to my radio show at the time and said I was the only one that stood up for him, at least gave him the presumption of innocence. It changed my life. They also smeared falsely accused -- remember the Duke lacrosse team? We didn't rush to judgment on the show. And let's not forget with the left did in Ferguson. Darren Wilson was found innocent in that case. Remember Baltimore, Freddie Gray? All the people saying he would be convicted. Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman. How many times did the president at the time, Obama, rush to judgment? The Cambridge police acted stupidly. During every big moment, so many in the left, so many in the press rushed to judgment for pure political gain. There's no presumption of innocence ever with these people when it comes to politics. Harry Reid lies about Mitt Romney in 2012 and said he hasn't paid taxes in ten years. And when asked about it later after the election and Romney lost, he boasts about it. He's proud of his lie. This happens every election season. One of the biggest smeared jobs of all comes from Christopher Steele's dirty dossier. A document bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC to lie to you, the American people, to rig an election in this country and then to destroy a president after with absurd, untrue, salacious claims like this. Trump's, quote, perverted conduct in Moscow included hiring the presidential suite at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel where he knew president and Mrs. Obama had stayed on one of their official trips to Russia, and defiling the bed where they had slept by employing a number of prostitutes to perform golden showers, in other words, urination, a show in front of him. Well, during an interrogatory in Great Britain, Christopher Steele, under the threat of perjury, he said that that dossier, it is raw intelligence. There is a 50 50/50 chance. Those lies were spread to you of the American people. Hillary paid for it, Russian allies of all things. Yet the left push these unverified and uncorroborated claims throughout the highest levels of our government right into the gullible media, their arm that pushes their propaganda. And as you can see, the left's attempt to destroy the lives of people with baseless claims, it is a clear, obvious and now predictable pattern. These are real people unfortunately, these are real lives when you say that someone is a racist, a sexist, a homophobe, a gang rapist, real families. Democrats, using all of them, pawns in a political game, no due process and no perception of innocence. How would you feel if it was you, America, tonight? Because this is the modern Democratic Party. They have now defined of themselves as a party of slanderous, smear, character assassination and a party of besmirchment. This is clearly who they are because I can't find a Democrat now saying they believe in the presumption of innocence. This now defines them. They only one power for themselves. Are they talking about the economy, about security for the American people? This is why every fair-minded American has a right to be skeptical tonight. What you are witnessing is one of the ugliest smear campaigns in history. If America doesn't get this right, there will be no good people in this country that ever want to serve their country for decades to come. Why would they? They are not doing it for the money. Democrats are now the party of no due process. They are the party of no presumption of innocence. They are not the party that believes in the Constitution. Has one Democrat said, presumption of innocence? I haven't heard them. And you want to know why? Because they all seem to believe when politics in play, when power is in play, that's what matters. All of this, I hope you remember in 41 days. Here with reaction, FOX News contributor Tammy Bruce, former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Joe diGenova, FOX News contributor, Sara carter. And one of Judge Kavanaugh's former high school girlfriends, Maura Kane, is with us. We're going to start with you, Tammy Bruce, in New York. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. Sean, it's just an astounding monologue you gave but it's a reminder to everyone how -- what the horrible situation we are in. Now, as you know, for a couple of weeks now, I have been concerned about the attitude that has been perpetrated here about sexual assault victims. I claimed that we should watch out for women not being believed because of the attitude of what's happening here and how now this claims are not being used as a political football, as a political bomb if you will. With this new claim, it is so fantastical, literally unbelievable. We are now in a position where everyone is looking at this, questioning the nature of accusations because now they are simply being used for political reasons. It's shameful. It's shocking. And the other argument is, Sean, that people said, well, you know, the due process and the presumption of innocence for a court room, this is not a courtroom. In fact, and I just -- obviously that's not true. That is a standard for all of us throughout our civil and social society, that what we do in law and in the judicial framework must be a reflection of how we treat each other in civil life, in business, legally, and socially, because if we -- this will seep into -- it's already, of course, a factor in colleges, but it will move into businesses, that accusations will be enough. It will move into our social sphere, and our relationships in general, in society. This is supposed to be the modeling of how we treat other Americans and our neighbors. The left wants division, and is relying so much on hatred that they wanted to flow over onto the rest of us. And we have a chance, as you know, in November, to reject it. And, right now, Kavanaugh is just a symbol in my opinion now, a symbol of what the left wants to destroy. HANNITY: Joe diGenova, you have been in this town with this extension for a long time. Have you ever seen anything this bad? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA: No, I haven't and I think Senator Feinstein has set in motion one of the great tragedies in American history. She has introduced and besmirched the United States senate. She has purposely tried to ruin a good man. But more than that, she has tried to ruin his wife and his two daughters. This is a disgraceful performance by the Democratic Party. And let me say this to Mazie Hirono, the Hawaiian senator, who -- Democrat, who told all the men of America to shut up. Tonight, I say to her, shut up, Senator, shut up. I'm sick of you, I'm sick of Dianne Feinstein. I'm sick of Senator Blumenthal and all the Democrats who have one thing in mind. They want power. They thirst for power. And they don't care who they ruin in the process. This is a moment of disgrace for the United States Senate and if they don't confirm him to the United States Senate, the Republicans will lose the Senate. This is a national disgrace. HANNITY: I have known you for many, many years and you've never told anybody to shut up in your life. Could you imagine anybody saying to any woman ever, shut up, and what the reaction would have been? DIGENOVA: Yes. It's just amazing and I'm so sick of the Democrats on this committee, what they are doing. Not just to Judge Kavanaugh, to the country. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: But it's not -- and you are absolutely right, but it's also about women. And Tammy Bruce brought up a good point. These assassination attempts on Kavanaugh and his family, and leaves the rest of the women that actually have a reason to complain, a reason to go to the law, now, they're going to be treated -- how are we going to be treated as women after this happened? And so, Sean, I think we have a man whose family has been just besmirched, as you said, in the press. He's just ripped apart. And now, I think the only thing for us to do is to sit back, let him speak, let's hear him out. You are innocent until proven guilty in this country. HANNITY: Maura, you were the high school girlfriend. This is the time that all these allegations are being made. You stated obviously you've known him all this time. Did you ever hear any of this? Is this the person you knew in any way? MAURA KANE, DATED KAVANAUGH IN HIGH SCHOOL: Never. The very first accusation, the alleged, you know, attack by Dr. Ford, I was surprised and skeptical, I didn't believe it. But then, the more recent accusations are absolutely preposterous. They are ridiculous. They do not even fit in with anything remotely close to Brett Kavanaugh or our high school life. There's no way. HANNITY: It seems that on so many high school, college, law school, Bush administration, all those people -- Sara, yes? CARTER: Yes. And I was going to say, look, Brett -- Judge Kavanaugh had five or six FBI thorough background investigations. Now this isn't just FBI paper trail, Sean. They actually go to your friends, they interview your neighbors, they go back to people you knew in high school, in college, they interview your employers, they ran criminal background checks. None of that came out. None of that in five or six of those investigations. HANNITY: Let me go back to Tammy. Tammy, when you look at Professor Ford, I don't have a problem with her being heard. And the people that she mentioned, they all contradict her story. BRUCE: Right. HANNITY: And then if you look at the New Yorker piece, which should never have printed, even the New York Times said that Ms. Ramirez in that particular case was calling people from Yale. New York Times is saying. And they talked to dozens of people and said, do you remember it? I'm not sure. And then you have this allegation. So we are going to believe that somebody went to one party, gang rape, drugging women, inebriated, boys lining up to rape a girl one at a time, and that it never came out by anybody ever in 36 years? We're supposed to believe that tonight. BRUCE: I don't -- first of all. No one is. And again this is what our problem is now. Because there are women who have not been heard, who have not justice, who have not been believed, and this is our struggle with women. But many of whom, if not a majority, have not experienced sexual harassment, sexual assault, and we make different choices about how to handle those things, but we've been working for generations to be taken seriously. Senator Feinstein and the Democrats, supposedly the champions for women with this process have denigrated all of us. Now look, I think that of all of the allegations, perhaps Professor Ford's was the most plausible, but when her own witnesses said it had not happened or contradicted her, it became a problem. And this is the thing that all three accusations have in common. No witnesses, no specifics, no corroboration, or in fact even a contradiction, and the inability to corroborate. The inability to do so, all three. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Joe? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY, COLUMBIA: Ms. Swetnick goes to 10 parties allegedly while she's in college to high parties where women are gang raped. She never reported it to anybody. She says she is gang raped. She never reported to anybody. No police report. Look, Dr. Ford, in addition, when you read her biography in the Washington Post, it's a Rorschach test. She is a very troubled woman, she's had a very troubled past. This never happened. This is a figment of her imagination. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What were Republicans do? What are the Republicans going to do? Because-- (CROSSTALK) DIGENOVA: They all should all shut up and let all the lawyers ask all the questions. All those senators-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Which I think is fair. DIGENOVA: -- should keep their mouth shut and let the prosecutor from Arizona-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They can't-- DIGENOVA: I want them all to shut up. I don't want to see a single Republican senator ask a question. HANNITY: Last word. CARTER: I absolutely agree. We need to hear them out and we need to hear Judge Kavanaugh speak. He needs to be able to present his testament. HANNITY: Last word, Maura. KANE: The whole thing is outrageous, none of it is true and Brett is going to be OK. HANNITY: How long did you date him? KANE: Two months. HANNITY: Well, thank you so much for being with us. KANE: You're welcome. I'm happy to be here as well. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We have a lot to get to tonight. From the sewer, the swamp, the stench horrible here, obviously. Kristin Fisher joins us with the very latest on the Kavanaugh hearing tomorrow morning. When we come back, the great one, Mark Levin, we'll hear from him. And Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan as we continue from D.C. Stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with the very latest on Judge Kavanaugh, the controversy, and of course the hearing tomorrow, Fox News Washington correspondent, Kristin Fisher. I get to see you in person once I'm here. KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: I know, great to see you. Welcome to D.C. HANNITY: Thank you so much. A lot of news. FISHER: Yes. And you know, there have been a lot of big hearings over the last two years but this one -- this one may be the biggest. You got a lifetime appointment with the Supreme Court hanging in the balance and at least two new accusers coming out today, though. One is totally anonymous. And Judge Kavanaugh he's denying all of them. He calls the accusations from Julie Swetnick, who, by the way, shares the same attorney as Stormy Daniels, quote, "ridiculous, and from the twilight zone. I don't know who this is and this never happened." Now Swetnick claims that she was drugged and gang raped at a party that Kavanaugh was at, 35 years ago. But the focus tomorrow will be entirely on the first accuser, Christine Blasey Ford. President Trump he's continuing to defend his nominee calling it all con job by Democrats. But he also promised to keep an open mind. And really listen to what he has to say. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You know, believe it or not, I'm going to see what said. It's possible that they will be convincing. I can always be convinced. I have to hear it. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: Now in addition to their testimony there's also two key pieces of evidence to watch for tomorrow. The results of Ford's polygraph test which her attorneys claims first that she is telling the truth. And there is Kavanaugh's handwritten calendar from when he was 17 years old. It places him at places like the beach and baseball games but his attorney say, not at a party like the one that Ford describes. And you know, that's the problem when you're dealing with claims from 36 years ago, there's just not a lot of hard evidence to back either them up. HANNITY: Yes. Well, this is obviously problems -- problematic in every case. Kristin Fisher, good to see you in Washington. Thank you-- (CROSSTALK) FISHER: Good to see you. Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: Joining us now with reaction, he is the host of CR TV's Levine TV, the host of Life, Liberty, Levin right here on Fox News Channel, by the way, the number one show on Sunday night by far. We call him the great one, Mark Levin. Mark, I'm just going to throw it right to you. We've seen a lot over the years, I've been doing radio 30 years. I've been at the Fox News Channel since October 1996, it's never been this awful and it's been bad a lot of times. MARK LEVIN, FOX NEWS HOST: A couple things here, first of all, notice there is no blue dress here. Out of these three accusers, there's not a single eye witness. There's not a single corroborating witness, there's not a single shred of evidence. So that's what they have in common. No case. But that's exactly why the Democrats believe that only the Senate judiciary committee the Bill of Rights don't apply. Only the Senate judiciary committee the Constitution doesn't apply. No due process and no presumption of innocence because I have to make that case. Because you want to know why? I believe Brett Kavanaugh. I believe Brett Kavanaugh. The Democrats, their lawyers, their operatives, the Senate, their staffers all scheming around in the shadows, they've come up with literally nothing tangible or concrete. The reason why they blow this off that it's not a court of law is because that's how totalitarians think. And so, you have people who make accusations, this isn't about women's rights. It's not even about women. There are millions and millions of women out there many of them watching your show. My wife, my mother, my daughter, my stepdaughter, my mother-in- law, and so forth who don't believe any of this. There are tens of thousands of women who find this entire spectacle, it's not a hearing. It's a spectacle. It's a Roman coliseum they are throwing them to the lines. They find this disgusting. Liberals don't speak for women. Did Ted Kennedy speak for Mary Jo Kopechne? Did Bill Clinton speak for all the women he sexually assaulted? I don't think so. Now, people keep saying Brett Kavanaugh had six FBI background investigations. How many background investigations did Ms. Ford have? Zero. How about the other accusers? How many FBI background investigations did they have? Zero. As a matter of fact it's very interesting to me that all these left-wing Democrat lawyers who represent these accusers, they know where the Montgomery County Police Department is and they haven't walked a single one of their clients into that law enforcement office to file a complaint against Mr. Kavanaugh. They keep talking about the FBI. The jurisdiction is Montgomery County, Maryland, boys, and you know where it is, don't you go ahead and file your complaints there? And I'll tell you why. Because then the rule of law actually kicks in. And they don't want the rule of law to apply. And I'm starting to wonder about the Senate judiciary committee, Senate. They are either filled with perverts or totalitarians, it's one or the other. They are gleeful, they are exciting, they are salivating all over this. It is a disgusting spectacle. Now, a couple of other things I want to mention which is this. Look at this latest example. This lady comes forward, her ex-boyfriend comes forward and Politico reports he doesn't believe a word that she says. Avenatti, Avenatti is back, the slip and fall porn lawyer. The Democrats embrace him. They embrace the argument. Ms. Ramirez didn't want to come forward. The Democrats staff go find her and try and drag her forward, no corroborating witnesses. Her memory suddenly is HD color clear but she's not going to testify. Then we have Dr. Ford. I've never understood this Dr. Ford issue. She wanted to remain private so where did she go? To the Washington Post? Now here's the thing. I keep hearing all over television, of course, I want to hear what Dr. Ford has to say. Of course, she has the right to say. Well, of course, we all want to hear what Dr. Ford has to say. That Dr. Ford is an adult. She's a professor. She has a Ph.D. She's made an allegation against another human being. She needs to be crossed-examined aggressively. She's not the bubble lady. She needs to be questioned. When somebody accuses somebody of a horrific crime, 36 years after the fact said nothing to anybody else that we know of, at least there is no witness of any kind. The four people she mentioned say, no, that's not true. Ms. Ford needs to be questioned and thoroughly. And I want the American people to understand something, this entire process from Bork to Clarence Thomas, and all the rest up to now has been hijacked by the radical left. Look at the Democrats on this committee, it's the most radical bunch imaginable. You got Gillibrand, you've got Feinstein, Durbin, Kamala Harris, Booker, all from dark blue states. One party states who are trying to appeal the most radical crazies in their party. We need to stand up to this. HANNITY: All right. Mark Levin, thank you. And can you imagine that, 10 parties, boys lining up and drugging women, nobody ever said anything and it happened more weekends? Unbelievable. We're going to have more on this when we continue. A lot of breaking news tonight. Mark's show, Life, Liberty, and Levin, Sunday night at 10 p.m. right here on the Fox News Channel. When we come back, Ed Henry, Congressman Jim Jordan, and Congressman Mark Meadows and the latest on all of this and much more. Also, Rush's take on the events of today, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. As we continue from Washington tonight with our reporting. Ed Henry has been pouring over these newly released Kavanaugh transcripts. Ed, you found some things. Great reporting, what do you got. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Sean, pretty fascinating. Some news outlets running falsely tonight with a report of a fifth accuser against Brett Kavanaugh involving an alleged sexual assault on a boat in Rhode Island in 1985. We've checked it out, it's bogus. Starting with Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, he's vehemently opposed to a Kavanaugh, he got a phone call from a Rhode Island constituent who claimed early on a Sunday in August '85 a close friend was sexually assaulted on a boat in Newport by two drugged men named Brett and Mark. That's all he had. First names. The men claimed one of the men was Kavanaugh. The man said he called the senator's office after recognizing Kavanaugh's yearbook photos and news reports. Senate judiciary investigators ask Kavanaugh earlier this week in a private interview. We got that transcript as you said and just months ago, Kavanaugh declared he has never even been on a boat in Newport saying, quote, "This is just completely made up or at least, not me. I don't know what they're referring to." When we check it out we found out the man who called the senator's office has a Twitter account. An hour ago, he tweeted, quote, "recanted because I have made a mistake and apologize." In earlier tweets the same man called for a military coup against President Trump and accused the president, yes, of manslaughter. Sean, it gives you an idea of the onslaught Brett Kavanaugh is facing, the idea of ridiculous allegations that are flying around, some people are running of. HANNITY: The fourth allegation, NBC News, they wouldn't make it against Matt Lauer or Tom Brokaw, or Andy Lack, but it's OK, if the guy is the president or Judge Kavanaugh. Joining us now, by the way, we have another story rocking Washington and the bombshell New York Times piece reporting Deputy A.G. Rod Rosenstein proposed wearing the secret wire to record the president. Lawmakers are now demanding he come testify. With us we have Freedom Caucus chairman, Congressman Mark meadows in North Carolina, and Congressman from Ohio Jim Jordan. Good to see you both. REP. JIM JORDAN (R), OHIO: Good to see you. (CROSSTALK) REP. MARK MEADOWS (R), NORTH CAROLINA: Great to be with you. HANNITY: That news quickly, we want to get your comments obviously on -- I mean, I don't even know where to begin with what is now unfolding with Judge Kavanaugh. JORDAN: You know, Sean, I met Judge Kavanaugh at a young lady who intern for us, and more importantly clerk for Judge Kavanaugh. She's the daughter of two of our, probably of some of our best friends from college. And Judge Kavanaugh flew to Morgan's wedding in Madison, Wisconsin. That's the kind of guy he is. He's a good man and he should be on the court and we know he is eminently qualified and we know he is the right guy for the job. And I hope it happens sooner rather than later. HANNITY: What happens in the Senate, you know these guys maybe too well. MEADOWS: Well, I think at the end of the day they'll hear both sides, they'll judge it on the merits of that. But I think the tactics that we're talking about is really distasteful to both sides. You know, when we really look at this, I got a readout that actually was coming from some of the activists and they were telling him how to act, what to wear, how they were coming in. And quite frankly, coaching them on what to say, these are people that literally do not have a stake in this. They are organized by certain groups to come out and create chaos. What we need are real hearings and let Judge Kavanaugh set up for it. HANNITY: Let me ask you both about Rod Rosenstein. The president commented about that today. MEADOWS: Sure. HANNITY: And said he has been speaking with Rod. MEADOWS: Yes. HANNITY: You both know him. MEADOWS: Yes. HANNITY: He says he didn't do it. McCabe is one of the ones obviously, his notes were leaked and he's known to lie. What do you think? MEADOWS: Well, I think the president's statement is consistent with where he's been. He says obviously he's never wanted to fire Rod Rosenstein. He's told that-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I think it's I trap myself. MEADOWS: Well, and you know whether it's a trap or not I think here's the interesting thing is, is this president is all about transparency. And here we are today, Rod saying he didn't say it, I think he needs to come in before Congress and raise his right hand and swear. HANNITY: And swear. MEADOWS: Because I can tell you there are a number of things that Jim and I both know about that Rod did say that really needs some accountability. JORDAN: He needs to be in front of Congress answering questions, do we really want in this country the guy who is in effect running the Justice Department talking about recording the commander in chief's conversations? Even if it's done in jest it should be done in jest, it shouldn't be done at all. And by the way, this is the same guy who wrote the memo for firing Comey, this is the same guy who hired Bob Mueller. This is the same guy who signed the third FISA and this is the same guy who I believe according to press reports from Fox News threaten to House intelligence committee member because they were trying to get information that I think we were entitled to. So he had better come in front of Congress and answer our questions. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What about the president declassify unredacted material? (CROSSTALK) MEADOWS: We've been on this. And listen. Here's the interesting thing. You know Jim and I had been talking about Rod Rosenstein, the DOJ, FBI for months and months and months. The only way for the American people to judge is to declassify these documents and get them out. Let's do the 302 Ohr interviews, because you know what? It would be very illuminating and we'll know very quickly-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Is there any chance, because the president mentioned two foreign countries. Is there any chance that our intelligence community farmed out violating the fourth amendment or the Constitution? Why are you laughing, Mr. Jordan? JORDAN: Look, all I'm saying-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: If that's a laughing issue, not (Inaudible) Hannity. MEADOWS: You are over the target, let's put it that way. JORDAN: Lots of information we need to save as soon as possible. HANNITY: Thank you both for what you are doing. JORDAN: Thank you. MEADOWS: No, thank you, Sean. HANNITY: Thank you. All right. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh weighs in on the Kavanaugh latest allegations as we continue. You can smell the stench right here in the studio, we are in the nation's capital, D.C. HANNITY: So, earlier today, interestingly, Rush Limbaugh reassessed one of his predictions that we happened to air Monday on this program. And he said that if Republicans did not confirm Kavanaugh, they could, quote, "kiss the midterms goodbye." In the wake of the latest accuser, Rush said this today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: The outrage was originally going to be at Republicans for caving to all of this, but now we're past that. Because one of the things I believe is truly happening, I think fence-sitters, and casual news consumers, people that are not ideologically involved like you and I are, people who are not so called news junkies. I think they are watching this and I think they are just getting livid because this is so far outside the bounds of what even our degraded politics has come to be, in terms of normal. This is so even beyond that. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: In 41 days, Rush is right, you have all the power. This is insanity. All right. We will always be fair and balanced. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura is in the next studio. We'll be back in D.C. tomorrow. How are you? Load-Date: September 27, 2018 End of Document Democrats Call for Kavanaugh Nomination Withdrawal; Third Accuser Comes Out against Kavanaugh; Media Bombards Trump on Kavanaugh Chaos; Democrats Continue Call for FBI Investigation of Allegation against Brett Kavanaugh; Christine Blasey Ford's Legal Team Turned over Her Polygraph Result to Senate Judiciary Committee; Brett Kavanaugh and Accuser Christine Blasey Ford to Testify Before Senate Judiciary Committee; Friend of Brett Kavanaugh Disputes Allegations against Him of Sexual Misconduct Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 26, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7762 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Andy McCarthy, Jonathan Turley, Byron York, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Gayle Trotter, Sonia Ossorio, Thomas Mauriello, Suzanne Matan Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: In 41 days, Rush is right, you have all the power. This is insanity. All right, we'll always be fair and balanced. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura is in the next studio. We'll back in D.C. tomorrow. How are you? LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hey, Hannity. I thought you were up in the rain. I thought, you know, you can weather any storm. You're supposed to be up there, and now you're in a cozy studio right next to me. (INAUDIBLE) HANNITY: Why are you being so mean? I just said Laura's next, let not your heart be troubled, she has all the latest, breaking news, don't miss Laura's show, and then you trash me every night. What's up with that? INGRAHAM: It's just sisterly-brotherly love. That's all. Sean, have a great show tonight. HANNITY: All right. Have a great show. INGRAHAM: You're buying the margaritas later, OK. I've got to get ready for tomorrow's hearing. HANNITY: Yes, ma'am. INGRAHAM: All right. Welcome to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE, everybody. I'm Laura Ingraham, Washington. We're exactly 12 hours away from one of the most anticipated senate hearings in recent memory. Tomorrow morning, Judge Brett Kavanaugh and Dr. Christine Blasey Ford will make their case in front of the senate judiciary committee, and an outside sex crimes prosecutor. Well, we have every angle of this story covered tonight. You do not want to miss a moment. Including, we'll talk to a high school friend of Brett Kavanaugh who is mentioned prominently in the calendar that he submitted from the 1980's to the judiciary committee today. She'll join me in studio. Plus, an examination of a very flimsy polygraph submission by Dr. Ford, as well as some last-minute stall tactics by Democrats that may show them to be less confident than some would assume. What must Kavanaugh accomplish at tomorrow's hearing and how might performance mean more than substance? Raymond Arroyo is here with some seen and unseen insights. But we begin with the accuser's last act. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNINDENTIFIED MALE: I have opposed his nomination. UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: From the beginning. UNINDENTIFIED MALE: I've opposed it from the beginning. I think the nomination should be withdrawn. UNINDENTIFIED MALE: I strongly believe Judge Kavanaugh should withdraw from consideration. And the president should withdraw this nomination if Kavanaugh won't do it voluntarily. UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: I join leader Schumer and calling for Judge Kavanaugh to withdraw his name from consideration. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Shocker. We told you this was going to happen. The longer the Republicans allow Brett Kavanaugh to twist in the wind, the more concessions they granted to his last-minute accusers, the uglier it was going to get. You know in musicals, the 11 o'clock number always arrives right on time to close out the show? Well, the 11 o'clock number in the Kavanaugh confirmation saga has arrived. (DRUM ROLL) INGRAHAM: Oh, he looks adorable on that stage. So, of course, porn star lawyer, Michael Avenatti, delivers a gift today. He drafted an affidavit in which this woman, Julie Swetnick, claims that Kavanaugh, while a high school student in the early '80s, spiked drinks at house parties to loosen girls inhibitions, and then essentially groomed them to be gang raped inside rooms. Swetnick further alleges that Kavanaugh was present at one such party in approximately 1982 when she, herself, was gang rape, though she says he didn't take part in it. Swetnick claims that there are witnesses who can vouch for her account. We haven't heard from them yet. Reacting to these outrageous charges, Kavanaugh today said the following, this is ridiculous and from the twilight zone. I don't know who this is and this never happened. Now this is the third in a series of what certainly appears to be a carefully timed and coordinated smear campaign on Kavanaugh. First, there was Christine Blasey Ford, who's still scheduled, as I said, to testify tomorrow morning before the senate judiciary committee. Exactly no one has corroborated her claims, and the polygraph test that she submitted to the judiciary committee today, it read like it was conducted by Cory Booker. We have more on that in a few moments. Then, from state further left, came social justice advocate Deborah Ramirez, who claimed that Kavanaugh exposed himself to her during their freshman year at Yale. Ramirez, however, may have exposed the holes in her own salacious story by admitting to friends that she couldn't be quite sure if Kavanaugh was, in fact, the guilty party. Again, there are no corroborating witnesses. Kavanaugh has strenuously denied that it happened. And Ramirez herself admits to being bombed, slurring her words at the time, and she conceded that her memory was, quote, foggy. And then today, we saw a new addition to the playbill, Ms. Swetnick. Now like the other two heroines of the anti-Kavanaugh resistance, her allegations are already getting bad reviews. She says she attended at least ten parties where gang-rapes were taking place. What? She also said that she went back to one such party in approximately 1982 after knowing that these gang rapes were taking place, where then she herself was raped. And it's important to note in 1982, she was a sophomore in college. How many college students do you know who attend high school functions where gang-rapes had previously occurred? None of it makes much sense at all, but this does. Tonight, we're learning a lot more about Avenatti's new prize, Ms. Swetnick. According to Politico, her ex-boyfriend paints a disturbing picture of her own character. In a phone interview with Politico, he said this about a 2001 injunction, right after I broke up with her, Swetnick, she was threatening my family, threatening my wife, and threatening to do harm to my baby at that time. I know a lot about her. She's not credible at all. He said not at all. Wow. Despite all of that, of course, the media today did what they always do, try to make President Trump out to be the bad guy in all of this. Another choreographed performance. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNINDENTIFIED MALE: If you don't mind come after I'm finished, if Haley or Vivian or one of our female colleagues could go after me, that would be great. I think it would be great if a female. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: What does that mean? No, what does that mean? UNINDENTIFIED MALE: It would be great if a female reporter would ask you a question about this issue. So, if you don't mind. TRUMP: I wouldn't mind it at all. I wouldn't mind it at all. It wouldn't make any difference to me. See. UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: To follow up on a question that a colleague asked as well. UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let me follow up on Jim's question. Mr. President, let me follow up on Jim's question that I don't think we've got an answer to. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: No collusion there. The president, though, he wasn't rattled by the swarm. And he gave his own kind of instant review of these last-minute theatrics. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: It's a very tough situation for a woman. There's no question about it. I'd like to hear a story. Yeah. Well, we're giving more time. They're going to have a big shot at speaking and making their case. And you know what? I could be persuaded also. I think when you really look at it all, it's not going to change any of the Democrats' minds. They're obstructionists. They're actually con artists because they know how quality this man is and they've destroyed a man's reputation and they want to destroy it even more. And they know it's a big, fat, con job. And they go into a room, and I guarantee you, they laugh like hell at what they pulled off on you and on the public. They laugh like hell. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I thoroughly enjoyed this press conference at the U.N. today. The entire allegation act I think is getting old. The last minute solos are not credible, and the reporter's chorus falling flat. My prediction, after all the hype, after all the bright lights, all of it faded, after we've heard from the left about this Kavanaugh takedown effort, all of it, this production will close out of town, a total flop. And despite all the hysteria, Kavanaugh will finally get the featured role he deserves, and he's prepared for his entire life, a seat on the Supreme Court of the United States. And I have two words, life tenure, and that's the ANGLE. Joining me now on set is Gayle Trotter, the spokesperson for the Judicial Crisis Network, and Sonia Ossorio, president of the National Organization of Women, New York City chapter. It's great to have you both on tonight. I want to start with you, Sonia. We've seen these late in the game drive- by hits on Kavanaugh's character and reputation, so is it not fair to inquire, as Politico did and other news organizations are tonight, about the character and reputation of the accusers? SONIA OSSORIO, NATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR WOMEN: The accusers aren't up for a lifetime position on the Supreme Court. We can talk about this all day long amongst us and on every television station, but what we need are experts. We need an investigation. There are so many people that are involved in these circles. That's the only way we're really going to get to the truth. And in terms of what you talked about that there's no corroboration, there absolutely is. INGRAHAM: Really? What's the corroboration? Let start with the most recent, there some anonymous stuff we'll get to which is laughable. But what I just want to be clarified so everybody can understand, so what you're saying is a woman can make any allegation against a man late in the process like this, with no contemporaneous corroboration, and not be subjected herself to scrutiny for motives or character. OSSORIO: I think that's already done. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: My question is a serious one. You're saying a drive-by hit late in the process, after the confirmation is over, after these allegations have been sat upon, you cannot question him? OSSORIO: You're calling it a drive-by hit, so I think that's already happening. That their characters are being. INGRAHAM: But Politico. Is Politico part of the right-wing conspiracy? OSSORIO: Please. What we need to do is have an investigation. INGRAHAM: But you're saying anyone who makes an allegation, no matter what, that allegation has to be investigated by the FBI? Are you kidding me? OSSORIO: When the person is up for the Supreme Court. INGRAHAM: Any allegation? OSSORIO: Absolutely. INGRAHAM: Any allegation. OK, we're making progress. OSSORIO: Yes. INGRAHAM: Go ahead. OSSORIO: We are making some progress. INGRAHAM: Any allegation. OSSORIO: I'm so glad. INGRAHAM: OK, that's feminism today, fantastic. GAYLE TROTTER, JUDICIAL CRISIS NETWORK SPOKESPERSON: I think the truth is that far left partisans led by Chuck Schumer vowed before Judge Kavanaugh's name was even released that they would stop this confirmation by any means necessary. And we're seeing that these far left partisans think that the means are justified -- the ends are justified by the means and so they're going to do anything, anything to engage in assassination of Judge Kavanaugh's character. OSSORIO: Ladies, are you suggesting that the Democratic Party or operatives went out and recruited these women, and they sat around the table and they said, OK, now, you're going to say this, and you're going to lie, and I know you've got a life, and a job, and kids, but we're going to blow it all up because. INGRAHAM: They were calling around. They were calling around. That came out. TROTTER: Debbie Ramirez was speaking with lawyers for six days until she decided she was sure enough that it was Judge Kavanaugh. INGRAHAM: Let's read more about this latest accusation, because Michael Avenatti is like the gold standard of credibility. I mean, you can never question -- he's another person you can never question. She filed a sexual harassment complaint against her former employer, this is a New York Times piece tonight, about a decade ago. It was against New York life insurance. OK. Sexual harassment complaint, it's fine. According to people familiar with the matter, representing her in the complaint was the firm run by, wait for it, Debra Katz, the lawyer currently representing Dr. Ford. Is that just a coincidence? OSSORIO: Who knows? I mean, if she's an expert in workplace sexual harassment -- you know what I think we should be asking is why doesn't Mark Judge -- why is he subpoenaed? (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Who cares about Mark Judge. There is no corroboration. OSSORIO: Oh, my gosh. INGRAHAM: . for any of this. Where's the corroboration? Give me one contemporaneous witness. All for people in the room. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: You want him off the court because of Roe versus Wade, right? This has nothing to do with disqualifications. You probably don't even believe these allegations. You really believe any of these allegations against him? OSSORIO: You know what I believe? What I believe is I need -- I would like to know the facts. And the only way to get to a fact. INGRAHAM: You wouldn't support him anyway. OSSORIO: That's beside the point. INGRAHAM: You don't care about the facts. You want him off the court. (CROSSTALK) OSSORIO: Come on. INGRAHAM: It's fifth vote on the court and it's Roe versus Wade. And the national organization for women, God bless you, it's about Roe, it's about identity politics, and this is feminism today, no wonder so few women want to identify themselves as feminists because every man -- every man is guilty, they're guilty as charged, your reputation is down the tube. OSSORIO: You're being so unfair. You know what? You're being unfair. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Really? Because most American women see through these late in the game hit, yes, they do. They're calling B.S. on this and you know it. Let's talk about. (CROSSTALK) OSSORIO: You know there's three of us right here in this room. There's four of us. The likelihood that one of us has been sexually assaulted is very much a possibility because those are the statistics. INGRAHAM: OK. Do you think women. OSSORIO: Sexual assault is a real problem. INGRAHAM: I agree. I completely agree, 100 percent. (CROSSTALK) TROTTER: You are -- uncorroborated claims. How much does that affect. OSSORIO: Well, we don't know until we have. TROTTER: No. We know they're uncorroborated. We don't know where they took place, we don't know when they took place, we do know that people that she -- that they identified, and all of them deny any recollection. INGRAHAM: Sonia, I have a question for you. (CROSSTALK) OSSORIO: She was talking about this in 2012. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: One little problem with the therapist. If I hear the therapist thing, I'm going to need a therapist, OK. Where the notes? Where the notes? Guess what, there are no notes. She didn't deliver her notes. You know why? Because I think the therapist was like the ACME therapist. It's a big lie. Lie, lie, lie. OSSORIO: That's why we need a real investigation. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: You know what I want an investigation? I want an investigation of what Brian Fallon, former Hillary Clinton operative, revealed to suckle Kavanaugh. To keep the Supreme Court out of Kavanagh's hands until 2020, out of Trump's hand. He said the following, saving the Supreme Court from Trump's clutches is always involved a very complicated two step. First, block Kavanaugh. Then fight like hell to win back the senate. If Kavanagh drops out, we're halfway there. If Democrats are able to win the senate back, we'll have a path of blocking Trump for picking any of the arch conservatives on his short list. This has been a plan from the very beginning. Debra Katz has been a member of the resistance. George Soros' paws are all over this. They're not busting people into town to play Tiddlywinks. They're busting people into town to smear a good man and that's unfair. And I think it's a disservice to women. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Yes, I do. I've known him for 28 years, thank you very much. And he's a great -- he's not a good man, he's a great man. He's not perfect. Sure he had a few beers. I'm sure all of us had some beers in high school or college. But to say someone has done this with zero corroboration is an outrage. (CROSSTALK) OSSORIO: This is why women do not report that actual assault. This is why so few women report it because this is the treatment. TROTTER: I'm not buying that. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Would you go to a great party -- if you know what happened nine times, would you go back to that same party? What kind of person -- what kind of woman doesn't say, I want to protect my sisters out there? I want to protect the young girls in high school who are being lined up, apparently, to be raped. I'm going to go back to the part, have a beer, and then put myself in jeopardy. That is a woman, we should say. (CROSSTALK) TROTTER: What about her lawyer? Any lawyer has a duty of obligation to their client, and she didn't go to law enforcement. So if you think. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Women have to protect other women. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Guys, we're running away. Women have to protect other women. And I think you're right. Sexual assault is really serious. We have to take it seriously. We have to treat it seriously. But it's unfair to men and women. OSSORIO: Then why are you calling it a drive-by hit? INGRAHAM: Because it is. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Because they had an entire confirmation process where they could have brought up these allegations, and Dianne sat on them because she knew it would be damaging two days before a vote. Sitting on an allegation. I don't think you would do that. OSSORIO: Why rush it? INGRAHAM: All right, guys. We'll let you have the last word. OSSORIO: Let's have an investigation. INGRAHAM: All right. We agree that sexual assault is really. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: All right. Thanks, you two. Judging by their actions, you would think the Democrats don't really want Dr. Ford to testify. I don't know. As we noted earlier, this afternoon, all the judiciary committee Democrats sent a letter to President Trump telling him to withdraw Kavanaugh's nomination. Then a few hours ago, Dianne Feinstein urged Chairman Grassley to postpone tomorrow's hearing altogether. I predicted that would happen last night. You really can't make this up, folks. Well, here to analyze it all, former federal prosecutor, Fox News contributor, Andy McCarthy. Andy, for the record, we think sexual assault is a serious problem. I thought it was serious when Juanita Broaddrick said that she was raped by Bill Clinton, and we didn't get a lot of support from feminist back then. I think is important now. But I think what's been done to Brett Kavanaugh is one of the all-time travesties in American politics. It's despicable, it's a disgrace, and he's going to get confirmed, and there's no asterisk next to his name. I'm sorry. No way. Andy? I'm smoking over this. I'm really, really mad about what's happening. ANDY MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Look, it's going to be like Clarence Thomas all over again. There's no asterisk once he gets on the court, which he richly deserves to be on. If you think about it, Laura, this nominee has more information that has been given to the senate about him, they have more ability to exercise, advise, and consent to make a discriminating appraisal about his qualifications than any nominee in the history of the United States. And what they did here is exactly what you described. They sat on these allegations, they abuse the process, and they were permitted to do it. And the minute that you start to give delay to people who are seeking delay, you get more delay and more problems and that's why we're where we are now. INGRAHAM: Andy, Avenatti was on with Chris Cuomo tonight on CNN, and he again said he wants an investigation, but then he kind of contradicted himself. Let's listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL AVENATTI, ATTORNEY: We want the FBI involved immediately to vet these allegations, to take interviews with all of the witnesses, including Mark Judge, including Brett Kavanaugh. I don't believe we could take her to the FBI because I don't think the FBI would have jurisdiction over her claims of abuse or sexual -- inappropriate sexual conduct as planned or as stated in the declaration. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I don't think he's gotten enough sleep. I can't follow that logic. Take her to the FBI, can't go to the FBI. I'm not following this. Everyone is hanging on the FBI. Explain, with all the, you know, work you've done in prosecutions in New York, big, big trials, how does this all work? MCCARTHY: Yeah. This is a background investigation, Laura. It's not a criminal investigation. It's not a counterintelligence investigation like we've been talking about for a couple of years. The FBI ordinarily doesn't have jurisdiction to investigate state law crimes like assault and these kinds of sexual abuses. But what they do is, when the senate has to exercise, advice, and consent, they help that process by venting the candidates and bringing to the senate's attention information that they discovered during the course of that kind of investigation. It's not a full- blown criminal investigation. And a confirmation hearing is not a trial. The idea is, get enough information so that they can make a responsible decision about whether to approve this nomination or not. If they don't think that they can approve it, they shouldn't approve it. But it's not a trial, and the idea that the FBI can breathe life into an investigation that the state authority themselves wouldn't do because it's so time-barred and so stale, that it would be improper under the U.S constitution. Forget about the state statute of limitations. There's no state that we do this kind of investigation. And the bureau doesn't, by having background investigations, get to do something it wouldn't ordinarily do. INGRAHAM: It's not going to happen. Andy, thank you so much. We're up against a hard break. Polygraph mania hits Washington. We'll get to it. INGRAHAM: Oh, goody. Dr. Christine Blasey Ford's legal team finally turned over her polygraph results of the senate judiciary committee. And given what we saw, not sure it's going to help her case much. First the questions consisted of the following. Number one, is any part of your written statement false? Number two, did you make any of it up? That's it. Well, not only was that it, but they didn't asked any specific questions about the specific charges. And further, the statements she submitted had multiple edits and contradictions. For instance, the letter says four boys and a couple of girls were at the party, but her letter to Feinstein says, me and four others were there. Lovely grammar. Even for a scientific polygraph report, this is really lame. It's like ACME polygraph. Here to react is Thomas Mauriello, former polygraph expert at the DOD, and current professor of criminology at the University of Maryland. OK, you've got to unpack this for us because I'm looking at this and I'm no expert. I think, what? It seems like it was done by one of the Democrats on the committee. Tell us, what are the problems here? THOMAS MAURIELLO, UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND PROFESSOR: The problem is simple, for the polygraph to be somewhat valid, a polygraph test, it needs to be a single issue test. Now, in the examiner's very first polygraph, he says the examination was to address whether Blasey was physically assaulted by Brett Kavanaugh while attending a small party in Montgomery County, Maryland? That's the question. And that's the question that should have been asked. When he asked a question about the letter, the letter has multiple issues in it. So, when you say, you know, you've been truthful to this letter, well, the letter itself doesn't have any specificity. It says, you know, four boys and a few girls. What's a few mean? So, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. INGRAHAM: Yeah. This was actually raised. This very issue -- Mr. Marielle was raised tonight on CNN. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNINDENTIFIED MALE: Professor Ford's written account on what happened, which included in the polygraph report, she claims or says there were four boys and a couple of girls in the party. That is different than what she said in her letter to Senator Feinstein, which is that gathering included her and four others. Is that discrepancy important? UNINDENTIFIED MALE: I don't know what Dr. Ford has said prior. My total communication with Dr. Ford was strictly that hour and a half, two hours in the polygraph. So, I don't know what she had said before. As a former FBI agent, I don't think that's a huge discrepancy. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Not a problem? Is that a discrepancy or not? MAURIELLO: It is. We also don't know what the polygraph examiner said to Professor Ford prior to that, during the pretest. But the bottomline is the question has to be very specific. And this was a simple thing. Did Brett Kavanaugh sexually assault her? Yes or no? It was a very simple test and he lost it by using the letter as the issue. He calls, you know, the statement the issue. Well, the statement has multiple issues from, you know, the location, how many people were there, whether it was Mark or Brett. INGRAHAM: So what are you saying? So, Tom, what you're saying is, they needed to go chapter and verse down each allegation to make it somewhat useful. I think we all understand that now. I was just stun by the writing on the handwritten statement. I was like, eighth grade writing. I'm sorry, but I'm stun at that. Well, Tom, we're out of time, but thank you for that analysis. And the latest Hail Mary attempt, Senator Jeff Merkley will announce that he's seeking an injunction in federal court. I howl when I read it. Design to stop a final vote on the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation, asserting an obstruction of his constitutional duty to advised and consent on nominees. Is that even possible? Joining us now, constitutional law attorney, Jonathan Turley, just flew here, ran into the studio, Washington Examiner correspondent, Byron York, both Fox News contributors. Mr. Turley, I'm glad you made it, number one. JONATHAN TURLEY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Thank you. INGRAHAM: Talk about that Merkley claim. I know we're going to get to some of the anonymous stuff happening today. TURLEY: It's completely, utterly meritless. And it won't last very long in court. There are cases that have been dismissed along the same lines that were actually stronger. This one doesn't even reach any level of plausibility for a federal judge. It will be dismissed relatively quickly. INGRAHAM: He says this is about the documents tonight. He said because our constitutional responsibility is to review the man's record and we can't do it if we're blocked by the White House. TURLEY: Yeah. The courts don't afford that service. And so, this really doesn't pass that lab test for most judges. INGRAHAM: Byron, tonight, two more accusations surfaced. On other network they were like, five accusers, making it look like it's a big swarm of coming out. Two anonymous, one, two, Cory Gardner saying a woman and her daughter saw Brett Kavanaugh in '98 outside a restaurant, push a woman in a sexually suggestive way against a wall or something. And then someone -- Rhode Island senator saying something else, with the guy was apparently a nut job. But this is what now is being called an accusation. No name, by the way, return address, on the accusation. BYRON YORK, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: The whole issue at the beginning of this, when there was just one accusation against Brett Kavanaugh from Christine Ford, was that it was just one accusation. And when you look at all the notorious Me Too cases, they were all a pattern of behavior. It's not as if Charlie Rose was allege to -- an abusive towards just one woman, or Harvey Weinstein, just one woman, or any of them. They were all a pattern. They did it over and over and over. And Brett Kavanaugh's defenders were saying, look, you've got just this one. So now you have a number of additional obligations, some of them just beyond flimsy. But it does allow the Democrats to say we have this long line, they must be investigated. INGRAHAM: Tonight, Elana Schor, who is a Senate Democrat aide, tweeted this out, "Senior Senate Democrat aide tells me" -- tells her, excuse me -- "that there's a concern that the GOP is now releasing anonymous allegations in an effort to make all allegations look frivolous. We are focusing on the ones that have names attached." So now, Turley, we have Senate Democrats calling the Republicans a false flag allegation with the last two allegations. That's where we are. TURLEY: It's just getting -- this is all becoming more and more bizarre. The most important thing for the committee to do which it has not done even with the hearting around the corner, is to articulate a standard of review. In fact, the members are saying the very opposite. Tomorrow I have a column in "The Hill" talking about what that standard might be, that they should apply something similar to a clear preponderance of the evidence, something that is higher than just preponderance, lower than beyond a reasonable doubt. But what worries me is that these members have been really working the airwaves to say, this is all politics, we are not a court of law. And that's too easy. There are two people who are going to have one heck of a day in front of that committee. Their lives, their reputations are at stake. These senators deserve -- they deserve, and these senators should be obligated to afford them some sense of how they're going to review the evidence. That is what we don't have here. So what worries me is you have the senators saying, I will consider how he views the constitution, and others saying, I just believe her even before I hear her testimony. INGRAHAM: I saw Mazie Hirono, Byron, said a couple day ago said that his jurisprudence makes it more likely -- I believe she said, paraphrasing -- makes it more likely that he did these things. That was one of the wilder things I've ever heard. YORK: Yes, she said I believe he is wrong about this or that constitutional doctrine, therefore, I believe that he sexually assaulted a teenage girl in 1982. It made absolutely no sense. As far as the questioning tomorrow, we don't really know about what the prosecutor hired to do this questioning is really going to be saying because a number of the public and members of the committee are kind of afraid to go in front of this issue. INGRAHAM: I like Beth Wilkinson, Kavanaugh's attorney. She was on SPECIAL REPORT tonight. She was fantastic. I would've liked to have seen her ask some of the questions. But we're looking forward to this tonight. Both of you, thank you so much. Again, as I said, we are less than 12 hours away from tomorrow's monumental Senate hearing. Raymond Arroyo is here next to tell us how style performance may play a larger role for some than actual substance, and how Hollywood is jumping in on the act. "Seen and Unseen" next. INGRAHAM: It's time for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we explore some of the big cultural stories of the day. Culture meets politics. But what does Brett Kavanaugh have to accomplish at tomorrow's hearing, and how might a style mean more than anything he actually says? Joining us now with more is Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series. Raymond? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Look, this is not your traditional hearing, this is not an evidentiary trial, or a judicial hearing. This is a credibility contest between Brett Kavanaugh and his accuser, Dr. Ford. Look, I've consulted and I've shaped speeches, coached people over the years, I was an actor, director. This sensibility, people are going to judge what we see tomorrow on the Hill by emotions and instinct more than content. I watched Martha MacCallum's interview the other day with Brett Kavanaugh. I want to share this with the audience. You watch this, and we'll draw some lessons here that he might need to watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT NOMINEE: I am looking for a fair process, a process where I can defend my integrity, and clear my name. I've never sexually assaulted anyone, not in high school, not ever. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I would not use their language. I would not use the left's accusation, like I'm not a cook, I didn't sexually assault someone. I would just say I didn't do anything approaching that. It's an outrage that my reputation - - I think you've got to bring the juice a little bit. It's too flat. ARROYO: That's the point. This is a little programmatic. It's a little robotic. INGRAHAM: But he's not like us. He doesn't do that. ARROYO: But people are looking for him to be indignant, and at the same time he has to be empathetic toward his accuser. Look at this, this is another difficulty. I hope he doesn't repeat this tomorrow. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KAVANAUGH: All I'm asking for is a fair process where I can be heard. I've never sexually assaulted anyone in high school or otherwise. Again, I'm just asking for a fair process where I can be heard and defend my integrity. I've never sexually assaulted anyone in high school or at any time. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Repeating the same rehearsed lines will not work. He has to show a little of himself. He has to show a little indignation, and I think grit. INGRAHAM: He has it. ARROYO: he demonstrated in one moment with Martha. I want to show you, when she asked about the rape allegations, these gang-rape allegations, he got hot under the collar. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KAVANAUGH: That's totally false and outrageous. I've never done anything such thing, known about any such thing. When I was in high school and I went to an all boys Catholic high school, a Jesuit high school, where I was focused on academics and athletics. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: He went on to explain his case. But you saw a little of the grit and fire there. INGRAHAM: He needs more of that. ARROYO: The camera picks up the things in between the lines, Laura. That is how we judge people when we see them on TV. That is going to be a big determiner here. It's going to be how do people receive him. It's about character. INGRAHAM: What about her? ARROYO: She's got the same bar. INGRAHAM: She's going to cry. She's going to cry. ARROYO: We know what they are going to say. The statements have already been released. This is all about objects and theatrics, and I think Democrats are going to try to -- INGRAHAM: They are going to try to put them back -- ARROYO: You bet. And Republicans are going to defer to the other -- INGRAHAM: I know he's a judge so he's not like us. We'd like slice and dice these people. He's more judicious and, frankly, kind. ARROYO: Now is the moment to show his -- he has got to be saddened by the spectacle of this -- INGRAHAM: Justice Thomas did it right. Justice Thomas was like this is a fraud, this is a high-tech lynching. It was great. That won it for him. If you don't fight for it, then people are like, you don't deserve it. You've got fight like this is your life or -- ARROYO: If these allegations are false, you better be ticked off about it. Hollywood is now taking sides in the Kavanaugh fight in an online sensation that got very little attention this week. A-list stars staged a walkout to show their support -- INGRAHAM: Keep walking. ARROYO: -- of Kavanaugh accuser Christine Ford. Organized by Time's Up, they were black and they walked out of their workplaces in a silent protest against Kavanaugh. Debra Messing, Kerry Washington, Samantha Bee, all left their workplaces to join this movement, as did Emmy Rossum. This is her recording, her group walked out. She's in a show appropriately called "Shameless." Listen to what she said at the end of this video. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) EMMY ROSSUM, ACTRESS: Believe women. Thank you! (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Believe women. It was #believewomen all day long. INGRAHAM: Paula Jones didn't get any believe. ARROYO: But is gender determinative of truth? What if I said believe men? No, believe men or believe women If their charges are seen as credible and if you are corroborating evidence -- INGRAHAM: I don't even understand that. Anyone women making any charge, the UVA frat rape charges, all of that dismissed. ARROYO: Why does sex tell us anything about the truthfulness of an account? INGRAHAM: Because they're bubbleheaded, sorry, celebrities, God bless them, and this is not what they do. So they think they were black, they go out, and it's all cool. Jimmy Kimmel, what is going on? He's at a big Democratic fundraiser the other night in L.A. where he disposed with any semblance of balance. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIMMY KIMMEL, LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW HOST: It used to when you're a late night talk show host, the prevailing witness was, don't take a side, it isn't worth it. You lose half your audience. Your job is to stay neural and make fun of everyone. And I'm sure you know this if you flip around the channels, that wisdom no longer prevails. This is an emergency. (APPLAUSE) KIMMEL: We need to fight, we need to do everything in our power to repeal and replace Congress. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Repeal and replace this Congress. He basically said he doesn't give a darn about his audience. He's going to take a political side. You know my Jimmy Kimmel's ratings are at the bottom row? Because of things like this. Why drive your audience away? I liked him so much better when he was helping people win Ben Stein's money. This is not going to go anywhere. INGRAHAM: Let me just say, there's nothing funny. ARROYO: He's not a comedian. He was never a comedian. INGRAHAM: Can we do just holograms of Carson? I want holograms of Johnny Carson and maybe a little early David Letterman. But any of the stuff -- guys, you are not funny. ARROYO: If you want to get into politics, run for office. INGRAHAM: Run for office. Come to the table, Jimmy. Come sit right here. ARROYO: Now we've shown the seen and the unseen. INGRAHAM: Raymond Arroyo, fantastic. And Brett Kavanaugh submitted his calendar showing his schedule during the summer of 1982. Very organized. One of the women named numerous times throughout the calendar joins us next with her recollections. Stay right there. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BETH WILKINSON, ATTORNEY FOR BRETT KAVANAUGH: One of the biggest problems with trying to disprove this as I think people are trying to put the burden on him, is that it's very hard to disprove or even remember exactly what you did 36 years ago. That's one of the reasons why he provided his calendars in response to the Senate Judiciary Committees request for all the documents, so they could at least see what he was doing that summer. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was Beth Wilkinson, attorney for Brett Kavanaugh, summing up how impossible a task this is, develop an effective defense to charges that don't include a corroborating witness from 36 years ago. Joining us now is someone with firsthand knowledge about these months. Suzanne Matan is listed on my calendar and spent much of the summer of '82 with pals, including Brett Kavanaugh. Suzanne, thanks for being here. First, what was your relationship with Brett? You are listed on June 6th, June 8th, June 9th, June 16th. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: It says "Suzanne." I guess that is you on the calendar. Do you remember? SUZANNE MATAN, HIGH SCHOOL FRIEND OF KAVANAUGH: Yes, that is me. Let's start with the fact that he kept a calendar. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Exactly. MATAN: In high school, he kept a calendar and still has it today. That just shows his level of organization, diligence. And yes, we were great friends in high school. INGRAHAM: Do remember seeing "Grease 2" with Brett on June 16th? This is like a time capsule, going back to "Grease 2." MATAN: Not as great as "Grease One." (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: OK. What you think about these allegations, these latest allegations from a woman named Julie Swetnick? We found out more about her tonight courtesy of "The New York Times" and "Politico." Very litigious, used the same law firm that Christine Blasey Ford used, Debra Katz's law firm, filing sexual harassment claims, got a settlement, got a restraining order successfully filed against her by her former boyfriend. And now these claims from Avenatti's client, gang-rape, Brett Kavanaugh was liquoring girls up to get them lined up for gang-rape. If that had occurred, you knew him well, would you have heard about something like this? MATAN: It's impossible and it's outrageous. And it is such a stretch to even like him to her. She was in college while we were in high school. We were a close-knit private school community. She was in a public school 35 minutes away. INGRAHAM: Gaithersburg High School. So was there any cross-pollination with Gaithersburg High School and you went to Holy Child, it's a great school. He went to prep, Georgetown Prep, did you guys hang out together, run in the same circles? MATAN: Not at all. INGRAHAM: I just thought it was weird for a college student to hang out with a bunch of high school students in beach week -- what happened at the beach week? I was always mowing lawns. You guys are the fancy people going to beach week. I didn't even know what beach week was in Glastonbury, Connecticut. So what was going on, a lot of drinking, a lot of partying? MATAN: Beach week is a tradition that at the end of the school year, we would go to the beach. And Brett's group was there with a chaperone. We were down the road and with a chaperone. And we spent a lot of time hanging out then. And it was actually very heartwarming to see my name in the calendar on that week because I remember it as a time when Brett and I spent a lot of time together and really cemented our relationship as friends. INGRAHAM: To this day. MATAN: Yes, to this day. INGRAHAM: MSNBC was mocking the calendar today, Suzanne. I will play a little clip. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He has yet to say why he wouldn't want an FBI investigation, especially if his whole goal when he was a young man, as he says it, was to win all his varsity basketball games, be number one has in his class, and go to Chapel, and do service projects. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And also it's not like he is sitting back now. He's put others calendar, right, as proof, which, I don't know what a smoking gun they have in there that they're going to show up, but so far all that calendar shows me is corroboration. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Your thoughts on that? Just sneering. The media bias on this, obviously. MATAN: Like I said, the fact that he kept the calendar and recorded things, not just about his social life but also about cutting the yard and his interviews with Brown, his interviews with Yale. Went out to dinner with his parents. INGRAHAM: Did you ever see him purposely try to get girls drunk, loading them up with alcohol to take advantage of them? That's one of the accusations. MATAN: No. It's impossible. Again, this is a guy that had ambitions back in high school. And he loved his parents, he was respected his mom and wanted to follow in her footsteps. And so he would never do anything to disappoint her or sabotages his dreams. INGRAHAM: Suzanne, thank you so much. You've been stalwart. Up next, the lessons of the Kavanaugh -- that Kavanaugh can take away from the president's press conference today. Those highlights next. And go on our Facebook page and you will see the letter that Suzanne signed along with a lot of her friends supporting Brett Kavanaugh for tomorrow. INGRAHAM: I'm still trying to get over beach week. What you see from these past two weeks from the media, many of the Democrats, is a disgraceful spectacle. It's meant to tear down a good man. As he approaches this fight tomorrow, he can take some lessons from how the president took on all comers today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The FBI told us they've investigated Judge Kavanaugh six times, five times, many times over the years. They know him very well. But here there is nothing to investigate from at least one standpoint. They didn't know the location, they didn't know the time, they didn't know the year. They didn't know anything. It is like, where do you go? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you saying that all three of those women are liars? Is there anything that could be said tomorrow that could cause you to withdraw the nomination? Anything at all? TRUMP: I won't get into that game. I only tell you this. This is one of the highest quality people that I've ever met. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President. TRUMP: Go ahead. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My question, Mr. Trump, you didn't let me ask my question. TRUMP: You've been asking a question for 10 minutes. Please sit down. Please, go ahead. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How did those impact your opinions on the allegations? TRUMP: It does impact my opinion. You know why? Because I've had a lot of false charges made against me. How about just a couple of more. I could be doing this all day long. I could be doing this all day long. Should we continue for a little while? It doesn't matter to me. A couple of more? I don't care. "New York Times," come on, the failing "New York Times." Stand up. Go ahead. This is a very big moment for our country because you have a man who is very outstanding but he's got very strong charges against him, probably charges that nobody is going to be able to be able to prove. Someone could some and say 30 years ago, 25 years ago, 10 years ago, five years ago, he did a horrible thing to me. He did this, he did that, he did that. And honestly, it's a very dangerous period in our country. And it's being perpetrated by some very evil people. Some of them are Democrats, I must say, because some of them know that this is just a game that they are playing. It's a con game. It's at the highest level. We are talking about the United States Supreme Court. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: My advice to the judge when we come back. INGRAHAM: Tomorrow is game day for Judge Kavanaugh. I hope he's sleeping. But if he's not, that is your fight. Preserve the truth, your good name, your reputation, take on the frauds on the committee who are trying to twist this process and turn it into something it never should have been, a political circus. Our country will be better off for it. Stand and fight. It's the only way to win this. President Trump tells us that and shows us that every day. I'll see you back here tomorrow night. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team will take it from here with another fantastic show. Shannon. Load-Date: September 27, 2018 End of Document Trump Fights Back and Accuses Democrats of Playing a Con Game on the Delays with Brett Kavanaugh's Confirmation Hearing; President Trump Defends His Supreme Court Nominee, Supporting and Says that the Second Accuser Has Nothing on Kavanaugh; Massive Anti-Kavanaugh Protest Funded by Liberal Activist Groups Connected to George Soros; Controversy over Allegations against Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh Examined; Pollster Reviews Possible Results of Brett Kavanaugh Controversy for Midterm Election; Interview with Congressman Jim Jordan; Congressman Jim Jordan Calls for Rod Rosenstein to Appear Before Congress Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 25, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7886 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Matt Schlapp, Dave Bossie Guests: Pam Bondi, Jason Nichols, Nicole Debord, Triana Arnold James, Jeffrey Lord, Bill Gavin, Frank Luntz, Jim Jordan Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: We are not the destroy Trump media. This is an important week for the country. We hope you'll stay with us. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham, who've invaded our territory in Washington, D.C. today, is live next, Laura. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, why are you up on the roof? Is that the cooler place to be? You and Martha are up on the roof and we are just in our lonely studio. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Unbelievable. HANNITY: Slow down! Slow down. There is actually a huge party going on over there. They're just playing Earth, Wind and Fire. INGRAHAM: All right, we're good. HANNITY: You complain you don't go to Singapore, you complain you don't go to Helsinki, you complain you are not on the roof, why all the whining? What's up with that? You sound to me like a liberal. INGRAHAM: I want you to do the white man (inaudible) dance, that kind of dance, you know, the middle-aged guys do when Earth, Wind, and Fire comes on. Come on, you got to go do that Hannity. I'm just kidding. HANNIITY: Wow. INGRAHAM: It was a great show tonight. HANNITY: Yes, that is what they call that dance, yes. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Great show tonight Hannity. All right, everybody. Welcome to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. I'm Laura Ingraham back in Washington on another very important news night. Throughout tonight's show, we're going to reveal exactly how the left is working to delegitimize the Supreme Court nominee and why the Kavanaugh battle is so important to the future of the Republican Party, the court itself, the country, and yes, to your family. Plus, breaking reports tonight on the fate of Rod Rosenstein. Congressman Jim Jordan has something to say about it all. He'll be with me later in the hour. But first, the lessons of the Kavanaugh battle. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Well the president gave Republicans a master class in retaliating against the tactics of the left today. Undoubtedly weary of watching the daily smear storm buffeting a Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, President Trump decided it was time to do what he does best, fight back. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The Democrats are playing a con game, C-O-N. A con game. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible) TRUMP: They know it's a con game. They know he's high quality. And they wink at each other. They are winking. They know it's a con game. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Donald Trump is never going to be content to hang back and play defense when he sees his agenda in jeopardy. He tried that a little bit a few days last week when the Ford allegation was dropped and he won praise for being measured and presidential. That's nice, but meanwhile, his nominee was under massive left-wing assault as Republicans on the committee were bending over backwards to accommodate the accuser's demands for delays and various conditions. Well, Trump is back and not a moment too soon. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Is a shame that you can do this to a person's life. I will tell you, maybe even more important, who is going to want to go before this system to be a Supreme Court judge or to be a judge or to be even a politician? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It's a great point. I mean, notice how he boils it all down to a stark set of facts? Facts that can be understood by all Americans. And he's unafraid -- when everyone else is telling them don't do it, don't do it -- when necessary, to counterpunch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Thirty-six years ago? Nobody ever knew about it, nobody ever heard about it? And now a new charge comes up, and she says, "Well, it might not be him. She thinks, maybe it could have been him, maybe not. She admits that she was drunk. She admits time lapses. There were time lapses. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And he's taking the same approach on the world stage. At the U.N. today, as the global elites shifted in their chairs uncomfortably, he delivered a fiercely pro-American, pro-sovereignty message. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We will never surrender America's sovereignty to an unelected, unaccountable global bureaucracy. America is governed by Americans. We reject the ideology of globalism and we embrace the doctrine of patriotism. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, he is defiant. He's unapologetic, clear. We need more, not less of that today. But I want to get back to Kavanaugh because last week with Trump on the sidelines, Senate Republicans walked right into the trap set by the left-wing smear squad. So folks like Senator Flake, Collins, and Murkowski, they felt pressured to give into the MeToo militants, forcing Senate Judiciary committee chair Chuck Grassley to postpone last Thursday's Kavanaugh vote. When the Democrats, though, were given an inch, they took a mile, and they began to slowly take the confirmation process hostage. And what did Republicans get for all of their cooperation and sensitivity? An extended, vicious news cycle. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I've heard, you know, many, many predators say and refute allegations against them. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She has nothing to gain here and everything to lose, that he was a drunken, almost rapist. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And think about that. They are willing to put on the Supreme Court someone who very well may be a sexual predator. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: A mob like circus in the hallways of the senate offices, and to now anti-Kavanaugh nasties are targeting and trying to humiliate Republican senators when they are out in public. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: We believe the survivors. We believe the survivors. We believe the survivors. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I think most Americans bristle at this stuff. These uncivil tactics and slimy smears against good people I think are exposing just how radicalized, how contemptible some strains of today's Democratic Party has become. But I think there is something positive that has emerged in all of this. Republicans are beginning to see what they are capable of actually accomplishing when they work together. Without the interparty fights, the warfare interparty, they can actually do a good deal of good. I am told that President George W. Bush is making calls on Kavanaugh's behalf. And it was very encouraging to see McConnell stand firm. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. MICTH MCCONNELL, SENATE MAJORITY LEADER: Justice matters. Evidence matters. Facts matter. Vague, unsubstantiated, and uncorroborated allegations of 30 plus-year-old misconduct where all the supposed witnesses either totally deny it or can't confirm it is nowhere near grounds to nullify someone's career or destroy their good name. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Amen. And it's about time all Republicans called this out, what they have done to Brett Kavanaugh for what it is. It's a total disgrace. But the Democrats of course conveniently look the other way when their heroes are accused of rape, abuse of interns, and even when they leave a woman to die in five feet of water. But Kavanaugh, with no criminal record and no pattern of abusive conduct, must be destroyed at all cost. A lot of you may not know that Texas senate candidate Beto O'Rourke, the new darling of the left, actually has a criminal record, including a DWI and a burglary arrest but no big deal. OK, come on. At least he condemned what happened to Ted Cruz last night. That was nice. Negotiating with terrorists, we hear that it's always a bad idea, almost always. By doing so, what do you get? You get more terrorism. It is good that the GOP has not given into this rabid mob mentality because to do so would have only emboldened the worst instincts of the left. Senator Grassley's decision to schedule the Kavanaugh committee vote this Friday in the morning is another positive development tonight. If the GOP continues to fight for fairness and justice in the way that Trump has on issue after issue, we may not only see a Justice Kavanaugh. We may just hold the majority come November. And that's THE ANGLE. Joining me with reaction, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi in New York and here with me on set, chairman of the American Conservative Union, Matt Schlapp and Democratic strategist and University of Maryland professor Jason Nichols. Jason. JASON NICHOLS, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Yes. INGRAHAM: Take it away. NICHOLS: Well, I think there are a couple of things that you said that were really important. Number one, that the president definitely fights for his agenda but he doesn't always fight for the American people. And that is a big problem. I think also there is precedent for doing a full investigation. There is no reason to rush this process. I 100 percent believe in due process, Laura. I believe that Brett Kavanaugh deserves 100 percent to be able to clear his name if he is not guilty of these crimes. INGRAHAM: How does he clear his name here? NICHOLS: Well, he gets a full investigation so that one day when his daughters go and Google this, they can see our father was not guilty -- INGRAHAM: Oh, really? That's what they're going to Google? Because guess what, when we Google various conservative names right now, including mine, the nastiest, nastiest things come up. That is why I don't Google anymore. NICHOLS: Hey, nasty things come up -- INGRAHAM: Guess what -- but there is no clearing your name. That is the old Ray Donovan line from the -- where do I go to get my reputation back? That's what Ray Donovan famously said. He was cleared. He never really did get his reputation back. MATT SCHALPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: Look, Laura, I think we actually -- INGRAHAM: Hold on. We got to go. SCHLAPP: I think we actually will settle this at the ballot box. I completely agree with what you said in your opener because this has all become intertwined. You have Republicans around this country that are distrustful of what their party will do when it comes to a fight and I agree with you. They are standing firm, Chuck Grassley, Mitch McConnell. They are doing the right thing. I actually think the Republicans realize, if they boggle, if they bungled us, if they dropped the ball when it comes to Kavanaugh, there will be a meltdown in November. And I think these Republican senators understand, this is the time to stick together and keep your promise and get it done or the Republicans will have a revolt. INGRAHAM: The base is going to revolt. The base will be in revolt. SCHLAPP: I'm not sure it comes back if it happens. INGRAHAM: They said it on my radio show. They've said it to us in tweets. If the Republicans cannot get Brett Kavanaugh through, Pam Bondi, a Bush guy, who is about as middle-of-the-road as a juror, fair, respected, then who will they going to get through? I mean, he was the consensus pick for Republicans. He wasn't, you know, a couple other people that were on the list who were considered more conservative. He was a Bush guy. And so Bush is picking up the phone and he's calling people and saying, guys, this is ridiculous, what has happened to him. Pam, I want to play for you something that John Clune, Deborah Ramirez, the second accuser's attorney said today with I think it was on, yes, Anderson Cooper. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: If there is no FBI investigation and it was just a matter of submitting testimony and evidence to the Senate Judiciary Committee, to committee investigators, that is not something you recommend that your client do? JOHN CLUNE, ATTORNEY FOR DEBORAH RAMIREZ: I wouldn't recommend that you do that, no. That kind of cross examination cannot be a replacement for a meaningful investigation. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Pam, you are a state attorney general. If you care about getting all the facts out, get them out as any way you can. I mean, it's a little late in the game to be entering third and fourth witnesses. "New York Times" wouldn't even go with this story. Your thoughts on what his concern is, though? PAM BONDI, ATTORNEY GENERAL OF FLORIDA: Well, I mean it's the 11th hour, it's ridiculous. And good try Jason on the due process. As Laura said, I've been a prosecutor since my early 20s and you know, due process, the rule of law is being unraveled here if they get away with this. It's about the presumption of innocence. Ramirez, there is nothing to even confirm her story. She can't even confirm that it's Brett Kavanaugh. This is a good man and thank goodness he has a strong wife and it's a shame that his daughters even have to endure this. You know, really, it sunk to a new low for all of us to have to listen to this, and this good man. I know him, Matt, you know him much better than I. Laura, you've known him. And to serve in public office, when it sinks to this low, to serve your country, and give back these vicious attacks, it's despicable. INGRAHAM: Jason, I want to go back to this idea of what you do in college. You are a professor. Kids in your classes go out in a weekends, have fun, yes? NICHOLS: Sure. INGRAHAM: They go have fun and probably drink a little bit, right. They're probably under 21. NICHOLS: Sure. INGRAHAM: Do you think 30 years from now, when they are for a big job, maybe in the military, maybe they go to some CEO of some company, that one person with no corroboration should be able to stop one of your students from getting a job? Do you think that would be fair, you have to prove your innocence? NICHOLS: Again, I think that what's fair -- what's fair is if they are accused of sexually assaulting somebody, that there is an investigation, and that is all the people are asking. INGRAHAM: OK, so one person they could do -- NICHOLS: But there's more than -- Laura, there is more than one person. There is more than one person. SCHLAPP: No, no, no. INGRAHAM: No, no, no. NICHOLS: No, it's not. Laura, it's not. INGRAHAM: There is no corroboration -- NICHOLS: If there is a whole lot of shaming of Ramirez because, oh, she was drunk. First of all, 50 percent of sexual assaults involve alcohol. INGRAHAM: No, I'm not shaming anyone. NICHOLS: Well then there is more than one person. INGRAHAM: No, no, no. I'm not shaming anyone. NICHOLS: Let's not say there's no -- INGRAHAM: I'm not shaming anyone. I have no doubt that something did happen, probably to both of them. I have no reason not to believe that. But what I will say is that any man, a brother, a husband, a father, a cousin, this could happen to any man in the United States. Of course there are sexual assaults and of course there is. There is no due process -- due process isn't having to prove your innocence. That is innocent until you are proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. That is not the standard. NICHOLS: I want law enforcement to do an investigation. SCHLAPP: But they have. No, no, no, they have. I want to take this head on because he's had six FBI full background checks. Half of his life, he has had the FBI checking everything about him. When they do those background investigations, they check everybody in your past life. They want to make sure you can't be blackmailed. They want to make sure there is nothing serious that will compromise your ability to do the job. That was all done. And the fact this is this, Joe Biden said it during the Clarence Thomas hearings. The FBI simply gives us what she says and what he says, and at the end of the day, we will learn nothing more if the FBI spends one more minute -- (CROSSTALK) NICHOLS: So a three-day investigation is going to cause a problem? That's what happened with Anita Hill. SCHLAPP: You will learn nothing new. NICHOLS: There was a three-day investigation. SCHLAPP: It's the Senate. NICHOLS: Then give it to him. SCHLAPP: It's the Senate's job at a confirmation. They have lawyers on both parties. It's their job to do the investigation. INGRAHAM: I mean, no one (inaudible) idea that people are interested in getting out the truth here, this is an all out smear of a good man. NICHOLS: I have nothing against Brett Kavanaugh. INGRAHAM: I'm not saying you do. I'm just saying this process is not geared toward finding the truth because we know -- how many of us could figure out, what did I do 36 years ago? (CROSSTALK) NICHOLS: -- Juanita Broaddrick every five minutes and that is probably 45 years old. And I believe she -- SCHLAPP: Don't go after her. That's not-- (CROSSTALK) SCHLAPP: Let's not do that. NICHOLS: -- the right to the same thing. INGRAHAM: Right, well, she didn't get it. She didn't get it. She was laughed off. (CROSSTALK) NICHOLS: I agree! INGRAHAM: Guys, and Pam, I want you to respond to this. There was a guest on CNN today, Yodit Tewolde, talking about the comparison between Bill Cosby and Kavanaugh. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) YODIT TEWOLDE, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: This is a monumental defining moment this week, when you have someone like Cosby going to prison and then in the same breath having Kavanaugh possibly going to the highest court in the land, and so anyone that's defending Kavanaugh could not in the same breath now apply this. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Pam, take it away on that. BONDI: I can't believe that they would even use those two names in the same sentence. Bill Cosby is an accused rapist. Brett Kavanaugh has devoted his entire life to serving others and the rule of law. They are attempting to destroy a good man. This case does not warrant any investigation, none whatsoever. There is no corroboration. That is why the FBI won't look at it. There is nothing there, as Matt said, he's gone through six FBI background checks. And if anyone can come forward -- Jason, if someone tried to say this about you, it would be disgusting and despicable. There is no corroboration at all. Nothing. NICHOLS: Well then why not bring in Mark Judge, why not bring in people -- I'm not -- BONDI: There is nothing to go forward. Nothing left at all. INGRAHAM: I think the Democrats better watch out because if they want to go down this road for every nominee -- BONDI: Bring it on. INGRAHAM: -- tables are going to be turned and you better be starting to feel (ph) (inaudible) in eighth grade, guys. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: You cannot put every man in the target zone. It's not fair. And real victims of sexual assault have also spoken out against this, saying it hurts our cause. So it plays both ways. Passion is a very high on this issue. Fantastic panel, as always, gentlemen and Pam, thanks so much. And in a latest stall tactic by the Democrats, they are bristling at this Republican suggestion that a sex trauma expert question Christine Blasey Ford this Thursday. Republicans though are rightfully pushing back. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CHRIS COONS (D), DELAWARE: By hiring an outside attorney who is a specialist in such crimes of prosecution, this will turn into a trial of Dr. Ford being conducted by someone they have hired. MCCONNELL: We want this hearing to be handled very professionally, not a political sideshow, like you saw put on by the Democrats when they were questioning Judge Kavanaugh. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me now on why this could be the right move for the GOP, former sex crimes prosecutor, Nicole Debord. Nicole, the "Washington Post" is reporting that Rachel Mitchell, she's an Arizona County sex crimes prosecutor, could well be selected to question Dr. Ford. Now, why could this be actually a good idea in your opinion given what is at stake here? NICOLE DEBORD, FORMER SEX CRIMES PROSECUTOR: Well, why not have someone who is familiar with the issues and these types of cases ask the questions that people have been trained over the years in handling these cases to anticipate? That way, everyone will have the answers to whatever questions they may think of as it relates to this issue during the hearing, as opposed to after. Hey, why didn't we ask this? Why didn't we ask that? By bringing in an expert who knows the kind of questions that come up in these cases, we will know it at the hearing. INGRAHAM: Yes, I mean, each senator only gets five minutes so why would they want to waste the time trying to figure out which direction to go in when a sex crimes prosecutor can see the signs of trauma. It is very curious to me by the Democrats, many of them who have already declared this a crime, wouldn't want to someone who prosecutes these crimes to do the questioning. It's almost as if they want the visual of the men interrogating a victim or an alleged victim. By the way, a letter for Michael Bromwich, who is Ford's lawyer, one of her lawyers, said the following. "This is not a criminal trial for which the involvement of an experienced sex crimes prosecutor would be appropriate. Neither Dr. Ford nor Judge Kavanaugh is on trial. The goal should be to develop the relevant facts, not try a case." Your reaction to that, Nicole? DEBORD: How better to develop the relevant facts than to have somebody who tries these cases all the time, asking the questions that the people would want to hear the answers to. It can't be a mistake to have somebody who handles these cases regularly ask the types of questions that you would experience in court. Now, I recognize that this is not a criminal trial, but it is an allegation of a serious nature and it's the kind of allegation that this particular proposed questionnaire has asked and has asked questions about on many occasions. So to me it seems like a no-brainer. Have somebody with experience as opposed to somebody who really knows about politics more than they know about these types of trials ask the questions. INGRAHAM: I mean, if everybody wants to take it out of the political realm, great. I think it's a great idea. Thank you so much, Nicole. And up next, who is funding the protester groups that are swarming Washington? They want to take down Brett Kavanaugh, but who's putting the money up? An INGRAHAM ANGLE investigation followed by a woman who actually came to D.C. after she got an e-mail from one of these groups. She is with us. Stay right there. INGRAHAM: OK, who is exactly behind promoting these occupations and protests against Judge Kavanaugh? We have an INGRAHAM ANGLE investigation for you tonight. The Women's March has been at the forefront of the anti- Trump movement, as we all know, day after inauguration and the big protest. And are taking the lead now, stating just today, "We are organizing an impactful, non-arrest, direct action to make sure that the Senate knows that #WeBelieveChristine and demand that they #CancelKavanaugh and vote no on his confirmation." The Women's March group counts Planned Parenthood and Natural Resources Defense Council as their premier partners. Both groups have actively opposed Kavanaugh since he was announced. Now, those groups take on significance because of their association with George Soros. According to an extensive study by the Media Research Center, 100 of the 544 Women's March partners have received a total of $246 -- am I reading this right -- 637,217 from Soros at last count. It's Trump change. Here to react, Triana Arnold James, is an anti-Kavanaugh protestor from Georgia who learned of the D.C. protest from a Woman's March e-mail. Along with the contributing editor of "The American Spectator," Jeffrey Lord, and Dave Bossie, former Trump campaign co-chair and president of Citizens United. Great to have you all on tonight. This is a big week for Washington and the court and Triana, I am so glad you came on tonight. So, walk us through how you found out about what was happening here. TRIANA ARNOLD JAMES, ANTI-KAVANAUGH PROTESTOR: Well, I have always been an advocate. And so through advocating and volunteering with the Women's March and other organizations, not just the Women's March, you know, you get the e-mails, you get the updates, you find out what is going on, and so when I found out that they were going to be here in Washington, D.C., I came from Georgia. INGRAHAM: So you just came on your own time and you are staying in a hotel? JAMES: I'm staying at a hotel. INGRAHAM: You're paying your own (inaudible) here. JAMES: Yes. I'm not a paid protester. INGRAHAM: OK. And when you come here, do you get -- do you get like instructions like where to go? Because I know a lot of people are at St. Stephen's church, not too far from here, but -- the meet up places, how do that work? JAMES: Yes. There's meetings and trainings that let you know, you know, what to do, what not to do and things like that. And so it's very organized, and it's very good to be with everyone. INGRAHAM: What you do for a living when you're not doing this? JAMES: I'm retired, I'm a veteran. INGRAHAM: Fantastic. And what about Kavanaugh do you not like? What do you know about him? What do you not like? JAMES: Well, I don't have anything personally against him. I just think that this is a bad look for America. I think that he has not been forthcoming and I don't believe that we need another Clarence Thomas situation on the highest -- INGRAHAM: I clerked for Clarence Thomas. If you knew him, you would love him. He's a great person. JAMES: And I'm pretty sure he is a great guy. I'm pretty sure he's a great guy. INGRAHAM: I'm going to convince Triana. By the time the end of the segment, I'm convincing you because Triana is too cool. She has 12 kids she's raised with her husband, OK, eight boys -- JAMES: Eight boys, four girls. INGRAHAM: OK, eight boys. What could happen to eight boys? DAVID BOSSIE, PRESIDENT, CITIZENS UNITED: She (inaudible) $50 million. They should take care of her hotel. INGRAHAM: Yes, like what the heck? Take care of Triana. JAMES: No, I didn't know that was -- INGRAHAM: I think they got a little help for that hotel room. BOSSIE: George Soros -- it's not surprising that George Soros us behind this. George Soros paid for the fake dossier. Paid Glenn Simpson in Fusion GPS so, he's connected throughout all of the left-wing activities in this country and around the world. It doesn't surprise me. What I would like to see, maybe a little consistency from these protesters. Maybe they can go out and talk about Cory Booker as a groper or maybe they could talk about Keith Ellison, you know, battering his girlfriend or may be, you know, Senator Carper from Delaware who beat his wife. Maybe we can have a conversation that's a lot bigger than just some unfounded, quite honestly, with no evidence to back it up, no corroboration, no witnesses against poor Brett Kavanaugh. These same Democratic senators are saying that he is guilty until proven innocent. That is not how we are supposed to do this. INGRAHAM: No, and I've got to say this, some of the criminal justice stuff that is being done, actually President Trump is actually moving on this issue -- BOSSIE: Yes. INGRAHAM: -- I think they are actually making interesting coalitions with minority groups and others who normally don't look at the Republican Party in a very charitable way. But part of what is bringing them together is this idea that prosecutors are overzealous and are convicting people who really don't have a shot at either defending themselves or convicting them before they have really had an opportunity to put on the kind of evidence they need to. So it's interesting that these groups are kind of turning on -- BOSSIE: There's a backlash coming. INGRAHAM: -- I don't think it's a sense of fairness. JAMES: Well, I don't think -- INGRAHAM: -- hold on one second. Jeffrey Lord, you have done and actually you have experience in this because of your work in another judicial confirmation that involved a similar type of swarm. Tell us about it. JEFFREY LORD, CONTRIBUTING EDITOR, THE AMERICAN SPECTATOR: Yes, yes. My best friend from college was Judge D. Brooks Smith who is now the Third Circuit chief judge, Third Circuit Court of Appeals. He was the Reagan chief judge of the western district. In 2001, when President Bush 43 picked him to go to the Third Circuit, and they did exactly what they did to Robert Bork and what they are doing here. And the thing you've got to -- you always have to gauge the groups behind the scene. For example, one senator had 21 of his 28 questions submitted to Judge Smith that I tracked down where word for word in some cases, from internal memos that we got a hold of from one of these interest groups. They are very, very powerful. And there were 27 of them who arranged -- who orchestrated against Judge Smith. And they give stories to the press which "The Washington Post" published. They do all of these kind of things, and it's a real serious problem. And what we are seeing here are Democratic senators basically, what you can't see are the groups behind these Democratic senators that are pulling the strings, which they are doing. And George Soros as a matter of fact paid for one of those groups in 2002. INGRAHAM: Open Society Foundation has an enormous amount of money. A huge amount of money. They can spend it anyway they want. That's the law. If they want to give money to Planned Parenthood, want to give money to National Resource Defense Council, they want to give money to the Women's March, he can do it. We are the Republicans. The Republicans have to have their own groups like this. BOSSIE: We are. We are outgunned. They have a very dedicated, Tom Steyer, George Soros, and their leftwing billionaires -- INGRAHAM: They want to rock this vote the midterms. They want to rock this vote. BOSSIE: They do, and elections do have consequences, and we need to make sure that our people turn out in November. INGRAHAM: Triana, last word to you -- LORD: The one thing, if this backfires -- INGRAHAM: Well, there might be signs it's already backfiring. Triana, what do you hope to accomplish with your time here? ARNOLD: I hope to accomplish that he receives a "no" vote. And I understand you say poor Brett, but what about Dr. Ford? What about Ms. Ramirez -- BOSSIE: She is going to get her opportunity on Thursday. JAMES: Right. And so that is all we are asking for, that an accurate FBI investigation be conducted. Mr. Kavanaugh has not been forthcoming -- INGRAHAM: What you mean he's not been forthcoming? JAMES: For example, he has not been forthcoming with everything about his past. INGRAHAM: What his past -- he's been in public service for almost three decades. BOSSIE: Six background checks. JAMES: That's a problem. INGRAHAM: That's the problem? JAMES: If you are a judge, wouldn't you want to see the evidence? Wouldn't you want to hear all sides? INGRAHAM: Do you know what you were doing 36 years ago? I don't know what the heck I was doing. JAMES: I actually do. I actually do know what was doing 36 years ago. INGRAHAM: What were you doing. JAMES: I was a child model for a company -- INGRAHAM: But if someone comes along and said, you did this, you were a child model, you did this, and you are like, no, I didn't. No one is corroborating the person accusing you. Where to go to get your good name back? You don't go anywhere because -- JAMES: So why can't he ask for an FBI's investigation in order to get his name back? BOSSIE: That's not his job, and that's not the FBI's job. And we learned that from Clarence Thomas. JAMES: And I'm not backed by George Soros. I don't know him. So I don't have any connection to him. BOSSIE: Thank you, Joe Biden. JAMES: But I just think we need to take a polygraph, do an FBI -- INGRAHAM: Polygraphs aren't admissible in court for a reason. Guys, we're out of time. Ahead, a former FBI official reacts to the idea Triana is putting forth that the agency could somehow get to bottom of these charges against Kavanaugh. Is that realistic, and could that ever really happen? More than three decades ago? Plus Frank Luntz tells us why the Democrats tactics might be backfiring. Stay there. INGRAHAM: The Kavanaugh accusations lacking all corroboration were purported to have taken place over 35 years ago. Yet still the calls for the FBI involvement continue you heard from our previous segment. Now, I wonder what prominent Democrats, say, former vice presidents, were saying that during the Clarence Thomas hearings? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: If the next person that refers to an FBI report as being worth anything obviously doesn't understand anything. FBI explicitly does not, in this or any other case, reach a conclusion, period. Period. The reason why we cannot rely on the FBI report, you wouldn't like it if we did, because it is inconclusive. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: "Period, period." Don't we just love Biden. He's the gift that keeps on giving. Please run in 2020. Here to react, Bill Gavin, former assistant director of the FBI in New York. Bill, we've all been having fun with this tape today. It was back on tape back then. But it is the talking point of the activists. I think they get their sheet of talking points, bullet point, bullet point, all we want is an FBI investigation. Bill, what's the truth about what the FBI could do here? BILL GAVIN, FORMER ASSISTANT FBI DIRECTOR OF NEW YORK: it's so crazy. I just don't understand, everybody wants an FBI investigation. An investigation of what? A criminal investigation? You want the FBI to go stick their nose into someplace where they have absolutely no jurisdiction? There is no predicate offense for the FBI to look at? That doesn't make any sense. Now, is there any -- nobody is going to deny that maybe something happened to Dr. Ford and I don't want to be de minimis of that. But let's face it, there is nothing for the FBI to look at from a forensic point of view. There has been no allegation, there has been no complaint filed by Dr. Ford locally where the FBI could go back and look at these reports and see what's in there. Nothing they can do. INGRAHAM: Bill, but clearly Senator Gillibrand knows a lot more about investigating then you do. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND, (D) NEW YORK: A FOX News interview is not the same as an FBI interview. And if he's willing to talk to FOX News about his views, I don't understand why he's unwilling to talk to the FBI so they can do a proper investigation. He said over and over again, he wants a fair hearing. Well, a fair hearing means you have an FBI that investigates the facts. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Bill, take it away, final thoughts. GAVIN: How anybody that is allegedly educated and has worked themselves into the position to be in the Senate can have such an inane assumption is crazy. I don't understand what they are saying, and they don't understand the complexity of what has to be done in something like this. INGRAHAM: Bill, it's a talking point. GAVIN: Laura, the investigation should be of the despicable, horrible, unethical performance of Senator Dianne not- so-Feinstein. This is ridiculous what she wants done. She held that letter for, what, 45 days? Then redacted it in such a way to make it look like it would support her point of view. She offed for Dr. Ford, who she promised to maintain her anonymity, she offed her because it was her own good. INGRAHAM: You know what I want, and Bill, thanks so much. I want an investigation of who leaked that letter. Who got that out? It's not her office, oh, really? OK. Let's investigate that, shall we? Bill, thanks so much. And the conventional is that this Kavanaugh fight must hurt the GOP with suburban women in the midterms, right? But is that the case? For answers, let's bring in polling guru Frank Luntz. So Frank, how is this all playing out across the country? FRANK LUNTZ, POLLSTER: Everyone is paying attention to it. So in the process of moving for the session on Thursday, and I have a higher percentage who say that they are extremely or very interested in any issue since Donald Trump was elected. Everyone is going to be watching, although I actually hear that it's possible she won't show up on Thursday. INGRAHAM: I'm betting she doesn't show up. LUNTZ: So something to consider. And women are paying attention to it. The key for Republicans, it was smart for them to go to outside counsel. It was smart for them to have a woman asking the questions because you knew that the Democrats were going to demonize whatever the Republicans did. That said, the GOP has to be careful about what they say and how they say it. INGRAHAM: Apparently, they're not going to say anything because there is going to be an outside prosecutor. Now the Democrats are complaining about that. Regarding polling, might, at some point, doesn't it appear to be obvious that this entire thing was strung out in order for Ronan and Mayer and Avenatti and the dial in accuser squad came around and try to find other people who were allegedly in some way harmed by Brett Kavanaugh, isn't that kind of becoming obvious to people? LUNTZ: But what the Democrats didn't realize is that the closer this goes to the election, the more likely the Republican base says, I hate this, I'm going to vote, I'm going to participate. I actually think if they manage to delay the vote to the middle or the end of October, the Democrats will lose a seat or two because of it, because every Trump will vote. INGRAHAM: The favorability of the Republican Party is the highest it's been in seven years, 45 percent, to 44 percent Democrats. Is it just the economy, part of this factoring in perhaps? LUNTZ: And I just finished a survey, and I found the Republican numbers to be within two points of the Democrats and I thought it was wrong. So something is happening out there. And I will give one explanation. Donald Trump is talking about issues that nobody talks about. I'll give an example. Prescription drugs, prescription drug companies. Trump is actually saying that he is going to hold the companies accountable for how much they charge the American people. When is the last time the GOP had the guts to say that these medications cost too much and the prescription drug companies -- INGRAHAM: Free marketers don't like that. LUNTZ: And he's standing up to China. We have an amazing economy right now, unemployment at record lows, more money in people's pockets. INGRAHAM: He's laughed at at the U.N. kind of, but I think he handled it really well. He said I didn't expect that reaction. It was a great moment for Trump. But the fact that the elites at the U.N. are kind of sneering at him and shifting in their seats, I don't think that sits well with the American public. I think they stand up for the president when the global elites sneer at him. They sneered at Reagan. LUNTZ: But let's balance this, because the Democrats are still more interested in the election, and they are still more likely to vote. The Republicans still faces an uphill battle to keep the House. INGRAHAM: Is it possible that Kavanaugh gets on the court, that encourages Republicans, gets them more excited about turning out? LUNTZ: The later that the vote comes, the more excited the GOP becomes. INGRAHAM: Very interesting. So it might cut against when people want to come get him on the court fast but drag it out. Frank, thanks so much. LUNTZ: Thank you. INGRAHAM: And some breaking news tonight on the fate of Rod Rosenstein. Congressman Jim Jordan is here next on that. Stay there. INGRAHAM: A lot of news tonight. What a difference 24 hours can make. Reports tonight that we may not have seen the last of Rod Rosenstein. The deputy attorney general was apparently ready to quit yesterday but was worried about Trump coming after him, and today sources are telling "The Wall Street Journal" and "The Washington Post" that he will survive at least until after the midterms. If he is indeed saying my next guest wants him in front of Congress before the week is out. Joining me know, Congressman Jim Jordan. Your reaction to these reports? And we have another piece of news that we're going to talk about in a moment as well. REP. JIM JORDAN, (R-OH) HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE: That's up to the White House. Here's what I know. You got the guy who in effect is running the Department of Justice who in front of subordinates is talking about recording the commander in chief. That is never supposed -- do we really want that to happen in the United States of America? The same guy who fired Comey, the same guy who hired Mueller, the same guy who signed the third FISA renewal, the same guy who threatened a House Intelligence Committee staffer and the same guy who has made it difficult for us to get the documents we need is now inside meeting, according to "The New York Times," threatening to actually record -- INGRAHAM: A joke. It's a joke. It's sarcastic. JORDAN: I don't care. INGRAHAM: This is a set up. They say it's a set up for the president, fire him and it's going to be a -- JORDAN: If the president fires him or not, what we are saying is, you need to come in front of the Judiciary Committee and answer our questions. The America people need to know what took place. Who was in that meeting? Was Andy McCabe in that meeting? Was Lisa Page, was Peter Strzok? INGRAHAM: It's in the case notes, right, it's in the case notes? JORDAN: So McCabe must have been there, but who else was there? We need to talk to those people as well. So this is the kind of thing that, again, when you are the guy running the Justice Department, which is what Rod Rosenstein is in effect doing, you can't be making statements like that, even if you are joking around. I want to know who was in the room and what took place. INGRAHAM: There's another report tonight that Trey Gowdy and Bob Goodlatte from Oversight and Judiciary have invited Loretta Lynch, former attorney general, Sally Yates, former acting attorney general, and I think one of the person -- Jim Comey -- to come back to testify on Capitol Hill. They sent out letters, "Politico" is reporting tonight. JORDAN: That's good. I think it's going to take more than an invitation. I think it's going to take a subpoena. INGRAHAM: They're not going to stroll up and say what you need? JORDAN: Of course not. INGRAHAM: I want Susan Rice back. I actually want her on Capitol Hill. I want the unmasking. JORDAN: We know next week, Jim Baker, former chief counsel at the FBI, was demoted then left the FBI. The former chief counsel is going to be in for a deposition. That's important next Wednesday and then in a couple weeks, October 19th, we have Nellie Ohr. INGRAHAM: Oh, Nellie. JORDAN: Wife of top Justice Department official Bruce Ohr. INGRAHAM: This is the first time. JORDAN: First time, so that is important as well. But again, it may take subpoenas for them to be there so we can get the questions answered that we need answered. INGRAHAM: This is what Adam Schiff on MSNBC said last night about the GOP, basically you, and the rule of law. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF, (D) RANKING MEMBER, HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: Right now we need to be sounding the alarm. And we need to be calling out the Republican members of Congress who have been all too timid and at times complicit with the president's attacks on the rule of law. The speaker at the Senate leader cannot plausibly claim anymore, if they ever could, that the prospect of interfering with the special counsel is theoretical. It's real. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Focusing on the special counsel deal. They are all worried about protecting the special counsel. They are not worried about protecting the rule of law but they are worried about protecting the special counsel. JORDAN: Rule of law? Remember what took place here. The Clinton campaign paid for the dossier, a piece of garbage document. They took that document, dressed it all up to a secret court to get a warrant to go spy on a fellow citizen associated with the Trump campaign. Using one party's opposition document to go spy on the other party. And he is talking about we're infringing or hurting the rule of law? That is why we are focused on this. The kind of thing that took place there should never have it in this country and we know that it did. That is why we need Rod Rosenstein in front of us to answer questions about all this. That is why we need Lynch, Comey, all these people -- INGRAHAM: Simpson has also been invited apparently, according to the political reporting, Glenn Simpson. JORDAN: I think Glenn Simpson said something to the Intelligence Committee that is not square with what Bruce Ohr told us in his deposition. I think he has got some real concerns, and he should be in front of us as well. INGRAHAM: Jim Jordan, we're going to be following this very closely. Thanks for the update. And up next, my message to all you parents about the terrible lessons that this Kavanaugh mess is teaching our children. INGRAHAM: Among the many ill effects of the Kavanaugh saga are the twisted lessons that some young people might glean from it. Among them, men are presumed guilty when accused by a woman. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you believe judge Kavanaugh does preserve a presumption of innocence are not? SEN. MAZIE HIRONO, (D) HAWAII: We are not in a court of law. We are actually in a court of credibility at this point. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Number two, boys should fear or even avoid close relationships with girls or young women in high school and in college. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think there's lots of questionable things that went on -- I think there's a lot of people that would be interested in protecting graduates of Georgetown Prep. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And if you are man, no matter how hard you work, how much you succeed, how devoted you are to equality, uncorroborated allegations can derail your next job or your next promotion. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The easiest pathway here for Republicans and for Kavanaugh is for him to withdraw. Don't take this controversy to a court that he holds so dear, the highest court in the land. Withdraw. Have Trump nominate somebody. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And finally, character assassination is justified so long as it serves the left's ends. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If they go through a Senate hearing at it becomes a circus, they push it through, he passes, he's seated on the Supreme Court, there will be, as we said last week, an asterisk next to his name as long as he is there. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Actually, the asterisk will be next to the names of once respected journalists who degraded their reputations to defame a good man. It's up to each of us to defend our sons, brothers, and your husbands to make sure that a travesty like this does not happen again. And remember, women can be wrongly accused as well. We'll be right back with my response to Jimmy Kimmel's sleazy Kavanaugh commentary. INGRAHAM: Time now for the last bite. On last night's "Jimmy Kimmel Live," the comedian offered this trenchant analysis of the Kavanaugh fight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIMMY KIMMEL, LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW HOST: I think there's a compromise here. And hear me out on this. So Kavanaugh gets confirmed to the Supreme Court, OK. In return, we get to cut that pesky penis of his off in front of everyone. (LAUGHTER) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I suppose you can take the boy out of "The Man Show," but you can't take "The Man Show" out of the boy. He seems to have a real obsession here. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KIMMEL: This game show is called guess is in my pants. Now, I've stuffed something in my pants, and you are allowed to feel around on the outside of the pants. You'll have 10 seconds to then guess what is in my pants. You ready? Go. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: At least we know what Jimmy's favorite clothing line is. Do you get the joke? I think. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team takes it from here. Shannon. Load-Date: September 26, 2018 End of Document Politics of Destruction: The Left Ignores Due Process to Destroy Kavanaugh; Interview With Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina; Three Women Who Were Judge Kavanaugh's Former Colleagues Have Strongly Defended Him Against The Allegations Of Sexual Harassment By Christine Blasey Ford; Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein Will Meet Face-To-Face With President Trump On Thursday In The White House Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 24, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8075 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro, Andrew McCarthy, Ed Henry, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter Guests: Lindsey Graham, Pam Bondi, Anita McBride, Monica Mastel, Cathie Martin Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Great show. And this is an important night tonight. We have a lot to get to. Welcome to HANNITY. We are witnessing in this country right now, right before your eyes, a total miscarriage of justice at the highest court in the land. There is no due process, no presumption of innocence, no burden of proof. And as we speak, you have the Democratic Party, the left in America, the median in America, all their friends are literally saying, guilt by accusation and trying to the character career reputation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh based on what is decades old uncorroborated allegations. Now, ambiguous claims we have here. Kavanaugh himself is categorically refuting it under oath. And the so-called witnesses categorically deny. Now, of course, it's a coordinated effort to take down Judge Kavanaugh, we're going to show you tonight that this is nothing new from the Democratic Party. There is good reason to be skeptical, as serious as these allegations are and we have said from the beginning to take them seriously. We're going to have tonight a Hannity history lesson how Democrats, the left in this country use identity politics every two years, every four years to gain electoral advantage, all while destroying the reputation of their opponents in the process. The tactics of the left should disgust every rational thinking American who loves and cares about this country and our core values. This isn't about Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative tonight. We'll also discuss the controversy surrounding the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The president should under no circumstance fire this beleaguered bureaucrat. We're going to explain that and so much more. This is a very important breaking news, opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: Tonight, Judge Brett Kavanaugh is fighting back and standing up for his good name and his reputation, and he is demanding a fair process. He says he won't be intimidated. After days of negotiations with the Senate Judiciary Committee, Professor Christine Ford has now agreed to testify about the allegations she made against Judge Kavanaugh. Let me be perfectly clear. These are serious allegations. I've said it many times. Professor Ford deserves to be heard, and those allegations and accusations should be taken seriously. And this coming Thursday, you the American people will be able to hear from both Professor Ford and Judge Kavanaugh in an open setting. Now, Chairman Grassley of the Senate Judiciary Committee, he was right to hold this hearing, and the Republicans have been and are being extremely fair and accommodating and they are taking these allegations seriously. But tonight, we need to a step back and we need to remember what we're talking about here. These are 35-year- old sexual misconduct allegations made by Professor Ford to congressional Democrats. Now, the claims date back to when Ford and Kavanaugh were in high school. Senator Dianne Feinstein, she was aware of Professor Ford's allegations since July. She sat on them. She kept them a secret, until after Kavanaugh's public hearing and after lengthy meetings with Judge Kavanaugh. In fact, Dianne Feinstein refused to give Senate Republicans, her colleagues, the full unredacted letter where accusations were first made back in July until today. Now, Professor Ford cannot remember the date or location of the alleged incident. The four witnesses that Ford herself listed to corroborate her claims, they are all now on record denying what Ford is alleging. And just a short ago, Judge Kavanaugh sat down with our own Martha MacCallum and categorically refuted these claims once again. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUDGE BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE NOMINEE: I may have met her, we did not travel in the same social circles. She was not a friend, not someone I knew. MARTHA MACCALLUM, FOX NEWS HOST, "THE STORY": You don't remember even being at parties with her ever? KAVANAUGH: I do not. And this is an allegation about a party in the summer of 1982 at a house near Connecticut Avenue on East West Highway with five people present. I was never at any such party. The other people who are alleged to be present said they do not remember any such party. A woman who was present, of another woman who was present who is Dr. Ford's lifelong friend has said she doesn't know me, and never remembers being at a party with me at any time in her life. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Tonight, Kavanaugh is now facing one more allegation because over the weekend, "The New Yorker", well, they brought up another decades-old claim against and Kavanaugh, in this case a woman named Deborah Ramirez. She is claiming that in the 1980s, again, when he was a freshman in college, that Kavanaugh exposed himself to her at a drunken college party at Yale University. Ramirez herself wasn't totally sure if Kavanaugh was a perpetrator. According to the "New Yorker," she became, quote, quickly inebriated at the party, her words. She told "The New Yorker" that she was, quote, foggy and slurring her words. And she even acknowledges she has significant memory gap from that evening. Now, "The New York Times", well, they spent over a week trying to corroborate her story, talking to dozens of people. And "The Times" said this, quote, "They have interviewed several dozen people over the past week in an attempt to corroborate her story. They could find no one with firsthand knowledge. Ms. Ramirez herself contacted former Yale classmates asking if they recall the incident and told some of them that she could not be certain that Mr. Kavanaugh was the one who exposed himself. And those who Ramirez listed as witnesses in yet another case here, well, to the indecent charges, well, they are all flatly denying. And this is what they said: We can say with confidence that if the incident Debbie alleges ever occurred, we would have seen or heard about it. We did not. The behavior that she describes would be completely out of character for Brett. In addition, some of us knew Debbie long after Yale. She never describes this incident until Brett's Supreme Court nomination was pending. "The New Yorker" also interviewed Ramirez's best friend at the time of the alleged incident and she's also denying any knowledge of her claims. And she said, quote: This was a woman knows best friend with. We shared intimate details of our lives. I was never told the story by her or by anyone else. It never came up. I didn't see it. I never heard of it happening. Now, Judge Kavanaugh also denied emphatically these decades-old charges. In a statement, he wrote, quote: well, these are smears, pure and simple, and they debase our public discourse. But they are also a threat to any man or woman who wishes to serve our country. Such grotesque and obvious character assassinations, if allowed to succeed, will dissuade competent and good people of all political persuasions from service. As I told the committee during the hearing, a federal judge must be independent, not swayed by public or political pressure. That is a kind of judge I will always be. I will not be intimidated into withdrawing from this process. The coordinated effort to destroy my good name will not drive me out. The vile threats of violence against my family will not drive them out. The last-minute character assassination will not succeed. And tonight, Kavanaugh once again denied these charges in his interview with Martha. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KAVANAUGH: I never did any such thing. I never did any such thing. The other people alleged to be there don't recall any such thing. If such a thing had happened, it would have been the talk of campus. The women I knew in college, and the men I knew in college says it's inconceivable that I could have done such a thing, and "The New York Times" has reported that just last week, the person making the accusation was calling other classmates, saying she was not sure that I had done this. Again, again, just asking for a fair process where I can be heard and I can defend my integrity. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And during this interview, he took it even a step further. Let's watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KAVANAUGH: People generally in high school, I think all of us have probably done things. We looked back on things and regretted or cringed a bit. But I -- that's not what we are talking about. We are talking about an allegation of sexual assault. I never sexually assaulted anyone. I didn't anything close to sexual intercourse in high school or for many years thereafter. The girls from the schools I went to and I were friends. MACCALLUM: So, you're saying that all -- through all these years that are in question, you are a virgin? KAVANAUGH: That's correct. MACCALLUM: You never had sexual intercourse with anyone in high school? KAVANAUGH: Correct. MACCALLUM: And through what years in college since we're probing into your personal life here? KAVANAUGH: Many years after. I will leave it at that. Many years after. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Then, Brett Kavanaugh went on to defend his character as a young student at Yale. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MACCALLUM: Was there ever a time that you drink so much that you couldn't remember what happened the night before? KAVANAUGH: No. That never happened. MACCALLUM: You never said to anyone, I don't remember anything about last night? KAVANAUGH: No, that did not happen. MACCALLUM: Did you ever have any sense that any kind of description of the behavior that I just described with these, you know, women being taken into rooms and raped or having sex with a number of women, consensual or otherwise, that that was going on at the parties that you were at? KAVANAUGH: I never saw any such thing -- any such thing. I certainly never participated in any such thing but I never saw or heard of any such thing. And we were -- I was focused on trying to be number one in my class and being captain of the varsity basketball team, and doing my service projects, going to church. The vast majority of the time I spent in high school was studying, or focused on sports and being a good friend to the boys and the girls that I was friends with. We have these great lifelong friendships. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, despite all these charges, judge Kavanaugh says he will not be quiet and he's vowing not to be intimidated into withdrawing his nomination. And while Judge Kavanaugh is standing firm, rightly demanding a fair process, it is so important to remember the toll that it also takes on a family. Again, where is the presumption of innocence? Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ASHLEY KAVANAUGH, WIFE OF JUDGE KAVANAUGH: It's very difficult. It's very difficult to have these conversations with our children, which we've had to have on broader terms or our youngest, but they know Brett and they know the truth. And we told them at the very beginning of this process, this will be not fun sometimes. You're going to hear things that people feel strongly and you need to know that. And just remember, you know your dad. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, while President Trump, he is standing by his nominee tonight, and he predicted earlier tonight that, in fact, he will be confirmed. Let's take a look at this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It will be sad indeed if something happens to reroute that. This is a fine man and we certainly hope he's going to be confirmed and quickly. His family has suffered. His family has suffered. What is going on is not something that should happen. Brett Kavanaugh is an absolute outstanding person. Hopefully, he will be confirmed quickly. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, this all comes as one false smear about Judge Kavanaugh has officially been debunked. Mainstream media, Democrats were gleefully spreading a rumor that female students were coached by a law professor on how to dress in an outgoing way when they were interviewing with Judge Kavanaugh, a rumor that the professor is completely denying. Now, despite everything we'd just showed you, and before any public testimony, there are people in this country -- this should not be political. Democrats, people on the left, they have already convicted Judge Kavanaugh. And according to them, he has no presumption of innocence, no right to be heard, no reason to be believed, no due process. You know, actually, there were lawmakers, lawmakers that were throwing law out the window and claiming his guilt by accusation. This should not happen in this country. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: The Senate shouldn't simply rely on hearing two conflicting accounts and decide -- well, we are okay with not knowing. We're okay with the fact that we might be putting someone who committed attempted rape on the Supreme Court of the United States. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: I believe her. Listen, first of all, anybody who comes forward at this point to be prepared to testify in the United States Senate against someone who is being nominated to one of the most powerful positions in the United States government, that takes an extraordinary amount of courage. SEN. MAIZE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: Not only do women like Dr. Ford who bravely comes forward, need to be heard but they need to be believed. They need to be believed. I just want to say to the men ofthis country: just shut up and step up. Do the right thing. SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: Let me just right at the outset, I believe Dr. Ford. I believe the survivor here. There's every reason to believe her. She has come forward courageously and bravely. SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: I believe her. I stand with her. And -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you hope she shows up on Monday? Do you hope that she testifies? GILLIBRAND: I don't think she should be bullied into this scenario, where it's a he said/she said. It's a sham hearing. And I don't think she should participate in it. SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY), MINORITY LEADER: I believe Professor Ford. I think she's credible. And I think when the investigation is finished and when she testifies and Judge Kavanaugh testifies, I think a majority of senators will find her credible and I don't think -- I never thought Kavanaugh should get appointed. (EN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No presumption of innocence. Now, at the very same time, all the people you are watching here, we have a case not 36 or seven or five years ago, where Keith Ellison, the number two person, the number two guy at the DNC, has been accused of repeated physical and emotional abuse and the DNC has smeared and slandered and ignored the person making that allegation. That's back in August this year. So, what you are watching is a Democratic Party playing politics, sadly exploiting a sexual conduct allegation accusation, that's it, for political gain, jumping to conclusions, rushing to judgment. Now, these are serious allegations and as I've said, we should hear from the accuser. But tonight, every American, Republican, Democrat, conservative and liberal. This is why you need a healthy dose of skepticism. Let me tell you why. The attorney representing Professor Ford, her name is Debra Katz, well, has views on sexual assault that have been extraordinary political and inconsistent at best. For example, she said this about Paula Jones. Nobody in the media reports it. Now, Paula Jones' suit is very, very weak and she alleged one incident that took place at a hotel room, that by her own testimony lasted 10 to 12 minutes. She suffered no repercussions in the workplace. She then said of Jones' accusations, quote, clearly a one-time incident that took place in 10 to 12 minutes, and she was not forced to have sex. She left of her own volition, the courts increasingly are finding that is not enough to create a hostile work environment claim. And she also defended creepy Senator Al Franken. Quote: Context is relevant. He did not do this as a member the U.S. Senate. Yes he did. And, by the way, he did this in the capacity of someone who is still functioning as an entertainer. Clearly, Professor Ford's attorney has a left-wing, radical, inconsistent political agenda. And "The Daily Caller" even uncovered back in 2017. The same said she vowed to resist President Trump. We've got the tape. Here it is. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REPORTER: Finally over the finish line, the new attorney general this morning grateful to the colleagues who fought for him. JEFFREY SESSIONS, ATTORNEY GENERAL: I can't express how appreciative I am for those of you who stood by me during these difficult times. REPORTER: It was a bitter feud to the very end. DEBRA KATZ, FORD LAWYER: We're going to fight back. We are going to resist. We will not be silenced. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We're going to fight back. We're going to resist. And now, we are also learning that Professor Ford is adding one more person to his legal team, an attorney named Michael Bromwich. He's the lawyer currently representing fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. Now, this brings us to our Hannity history lesson surrounding the Democratic playbook. Now, every two to four years in politics, every election cycle, Democrats used the politics of personal destruction to literally maim the character of their political opponents, even if it means lying in the process. They demonize all conservatives. There's not a conservative that I know that has not been through this. In fact every four years, every two years, Republicans are racist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic. Oh, they want dirty air and water, and they want to kill your children and throw granny over a cliff. Now, the left has also rushed to judgment in the wake of other major events. They have been wrong. On this program, we've been right. We didn't rush to judgment in the Duke lacrosse case. Remember when the media falsely accused Richard Jewell the Summer Olympics bombing? Remember because he said he fit profile of a lone bomber because he lived with his mother. Richard Jewell's listening to my radio show. I was a local host in Atlanta at the time. He once thanked me for being the only one not to rush to judgment. Remember the rush to judgment in Ferguson, in Missouri? Do you remember the rush to judgment in Baltimore, with Freddie Gray? Remember when Obama said the Cambridge police acted stupidly? You know, we have on this program adopted the "we will not rush to judgment. We will wait and we will see." On the case of the Duke lacrosse kids, I went to meet with their parents. In the case of Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, I met with George Zimmerman's attorney and George Zimmerman, asked him tough questions. And you see it now, every time there's a Supreme Court nominee, well, and it's happens to be a president that's Republican that appoints him, we saw it all the time. Judge Bork, we saw it with Clarence Thomas. Politically, remember 2012? Mitt Romney was sexist. He had binders full of women's resumes. And remember they turn his efforts to hire women into an attack about him being a sexist. Mitt Romney was not. Democrats smeared Romney -- remember they had falsely accused him -- remember Harry Reid, of being a tax cheat? And then after they won the election, they had no regrets about spreading those lies, these false attacks. This happens. This is why Americans have a duty to be skeptical because the media, the left wing have been wrong. It's in their playbook. We see it every two years, every four years, every Supreme Court nominee and every big high-profile case that they politicize. Here's a look at Harry Reid. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) FORMER SENATOR HARRY REID (D), NEVADA: Let him prove that he has paid taxes, because he hasn't. I don't regret that at all. The Koch brothers, no one would help me, they were afraid the Koch brothers would go after me. So I did it on my own. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, no regrets about Mitt Romney, about the Koch brothers. Some people even called it McCarthyite. REID: You know, they can call it whatever they want. He didn't win, did he? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I regret telling a total lie and smearing somebody. From Mitt Romney to Robert Bork to Clarence Thomas to George Bush. Frankly, every a conservative I know, I was been forced to deal with their life and some of these baseless character smears, character assassinations. Now, the most often used character assassination in the Democratic playbook is to call Republicans racist. It happens every Republican season. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Many Republicans talk in coded racial language about takers and losers. They demonize President Obama and encourage the ugliest impulses of the paranoid fringe. BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: If you accept the support of clan sympathizers before you are president, you will accept their support after you are a president. JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: He's going to let the big banks once again write their own rules. Unchained Wall Street. They're going to put y'all back in chains. AL GORE, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: It's wrong what the leader of the Republican Party and this Congress are doing and blocking an accurate census because they don't want to count everyone that they don't think they can count on. They are in favor of affirmative action, if you can dunk the basketball or a sink a three-point shot. But they are not in favor of it if you merely have the potential to be a leader in your community and bring people together. Don't tell me we've got a color blind society. UNIDENTTIFIED FEMALE: On June 7, 1998, in Texas, my father was killed. He was beaten and chained and dragged three miles to his death all because he was black. So, when Governor George W. Bush refused to support hate crime legislation, it was like high father was killed all over again. MISSOURI DEMOCRATIC PARTY RADIO AD: When you don't vote, you let another church explode. When you don't vote, you allow another cross to burn. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Real smears, real character assassination, and it happens predictably every election season and it happens with Supreme Court nominees. This is a gutter politics at its worst and sadly, we are going to see more and more of these tactics as we now march, what, 43 days or so towards the midterms. We're going to have a lot more on this in a moment. But first, breaking today, it also appears that the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein is hanging onto his job, at least for now. After "The New York Times" issued a report accusing Rod Rosenstein, and they are sticking by it, of plotting to secretly record President Trump and planning to rally cabinet officials and invoked the 25th Amendment, rumors spread that Rosenstein might be out of a job. That was going on all morning this morning. Tonight, Rod Rosenstein has been in communication with a president and apparently they will be meeting on Thursday. We'll have a lot more on that in a minute. Joining us now, first, with this developing situation and much more is South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. Senator, I can give you chapter and verse -- SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: That was hard to sit through. HANNITY: What's that? GRAHAM: That was hard to listen to. That was really tough. HANNITY: While the problem is these people are being called racists, sexists, and misogynists. GRAHAM: That's true. Absolutely. Remember John McCain? John Lewis said that John McCain's campaign reminded him of George Wallace's campaign. HANNITY: Yes, that's another one. And this is the problem. These are real lives that get destroyed here. GRAHAM: Absolutely. HANNITY: What Kennedy said about Robert Bork was despicable and disgusting. What was done to Clarence Thomas was another last-minute smear. GRAHAM: They tried it with Alito. HANNITY: Yes. What do you make of this now that we have had time? There's not a single person in the case of Professor Ford that she mentioned that was there -- GRAHAM: Yes. HANNTY: -- that has corroborated the story and the same thing with Ms. Ramirez. GRAHAM: Well, number one, to the Democrats, they knew about this since July 30th. They chose to do nothing about it. For them to complain about the process is like an arsonist complaining about a fire. The allegations against Judge Kavanaugh are collapsing. This has been the worst low point in the Senate for me and that's saying a lot. I never thought it would get this bad. We're going to have a hearing Thursday and have a vote soon thereafter. And I look forward to supporting this good man. The takeaway from me, Sean, is that when it comes to Donald Trump, there are no boundaries, there are no rules. Whatever you need to do to destroy him or his agenda is OK, and that's very sad. HANNITY: You know, Senator, we do have a serious allegation, and I've said, let everybody be heard, and I know you have said the same month. GRAHAM: Yes, and we are. HANNITY: A month ago, the girlfriend of Keith Ellison, number two at the DNC -- GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: -- is running for attorney general in Minnesota. Repeated physical and emotional abuse. GRAHAM: Yes. HANNITY: The reason I say this is selected moral outrage, why do the people we're talking about right now haven't uttered a word? GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: So, it's only guilt by accusation if you are a conservative or Republican or appointed by Republican. GRAHAM: Well, Democrats are willing to believe anything about a Trump nominee. They didn't believe anything about President Clinton who had a long history of this. Here's what I can tell you. This man, Judge Kavanaugh, has been in very responsible jobs for well over 20 years. Not woman has ever come forward to say he acted inappropriately in the workplace, that he used his power in an untoward way. These allegations are not about sex. They're about power. You don't become a serial rapist for a couple of years and hang it up. That's the garbage of all garbage coming from the Avenatti camp. So, here's what I think will happen -- nobody in their right mind is going to deny him a seat on the Supreme Court based on allegations 35 years old, when everybody at the high school party says they don't know what the lady is talking about, Dr. Ford. And the second allegation is not even worthy of talking about. So, I hope every Republican will be fair to Judge Kavanaugh, listen to what Dr. Ford says and render a good decision here. If he is denied a seat on the Supreme Court based on 35-year-old allegations and uncorroborated, who in the world will come forward in the future to be the judge? There's a lot at stake here. HANNITY: Senator, I can't get 220 people to stand up for me to be honest. Here's 220 people -- GRAHAM: I know you're got buddies, and they would not be there. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: You know, I love when people come on my show and just trash me. I really -- I have guests here that we're going to introduce in a minute. I think that's true. He's had 220 people, but they went above. GRAHAM: Yes, amen. HANNITY: These are women that knew him in high school, college, law school, the Bush administration, law clerks of his. GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: Here's my question. Many of your colleagues when they say, I believe her -- GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: -- do they believe in the presumption of innocence anymore? GRAHAM: No, they just want to get Trump. There is no way you can say that an allegation this old not specific to time and place when everybody else supposedly at the party said it didn't happen, that you can render a conclusion in favor of one person over the other. You just want an outcome. This is about outcome politics. Whatever it takes to stop Trump will do, whatever we have to say about Kavanaugh to stop him we'll will say. It's been disgusting. They've had this allegation since July, they are playing politics with it, there's been delay and deception and it won't work. It's going to blow up in their face. HANNITY: Let me ask you one final question. I'll be negligent if I didn't ask you about Rod Rosenstein and "The New York Times" report. They are standing by that report from last Friday. GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: He will be meeting with the president. I honestly think it's a set up. And I think the president should not be the one firing Rod Rosenstein. GRAHAM: Right. HANNITY: And I have been saying he should be fired and should go away for a long time. I think it's a set up. And my question to you, what is your take? Where is Jeff Sessions? That would be his department, his job. What is your take? What should happen, Senator? GRAHAM: Well, two things. I think Rosenstein should appoint a special counsel a long time ago to look at DOJ and FBI abuses regarding the Clinton email scandal and the early stages of the Russia investigation. I think he's let us all down there. Secondly, there were seven people in a room sometime after the election that were trying to wire the president and taken down basically, take the law in their own hands. I believe that Rosenstein was probably being sarcastic. If he was really part of it, he should be fired. But I don't trust McCabe and Page as far as I can throw them. So, if I were President Trump -- HANNITY: But he's also conflicted, Senator? GRAHAM: Yes, he is. He should not be overseeing the investigation of the FISA warrant, because he was a part of the FISA warrant. He shouldn't be overseeing this investigation because he was in the meeting himself. I believe Rosenstein until I have a reason otherwise. But if I were the president, I would make sure that I talk to him before I make that decision. HANNITY: All right. Lindsey Graham, Senator, we have a lot more to get to. But we appreciate you taking time tonight. GRAHAM: I'll do that. HANNITY: Here with more reaction, author of the best number one "New York Times" best-selling book, "Liars, Leakers and Liberals", it's an awesome book, "The Case Against the Anti-Trump Conspiracy", she's the host of "Justice" right here on the FOX News Channel, Judge Jeanine Pirro. Fox News contributor Andy McCarthy, powerful column today, and Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi. Let me start with both of you. You're both in politics, number one. We all know every conservative get smeared. What's your reaction to all this? And especially base on all the people saying that were mentioned, I never knew this, I never heard this. PAM BONDI, FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Well, Sean, not only am I am politics, I'm an attorney. And I'm a prosecutor for my entire career for over two decades before I was attorney general. So not only does the left they don't believe in the rule of law, they want to end the law by doing this to a man of great integrity. HANNITY: You know him. BONDI: I know him. I know Brett Kavanaugh. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How long have you known him? BONDI: I've known him for a couple of years, I got to know him I hired his former law clerk who was also an Alito clerk who thinks the world of him. And at time I got to be friends with Brett on a personal level. This is a good man. And I've done a national commercial for him for the PAC promoting his confirmation. And his wife, thank goodness she is a strong wife and thank goodness she is-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Who wants to go through this crap? BONDI: Absolute -- nobody. That's the strongest point he made, if he doesn't stand up and go through this and fight this, what good person would ever want to run for political office? We have all been attacked but not like that, I mean, that's despicable what they are trying to do, with two young daughters to this good, solid man. HANNITY: The stories are falling apart, judge, the people that they are saying at these alleged incidents are all contradicting. You know, and I don't -- all of us drank too much in college, although, you know, I was 17 tending bar as a junior in high school. But this new woman Ms. Ramirez says I was inebriated, gaps in memory, calling as the New York Times even said, calling people, do you remember? Because I'm not sure. JEANINE PIRRO, FOX NEWS HOST: Right, right, exactly. Look, it is clear what's going on here, Sean. And we've run for office. When I was a prosecutor I ran D.S. office. So-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I did mention in particular New York Post cover of you. PIRRO: The -- I have many covers, but the Constitution applies to illegals, it applies to criminals, murderers, but it doesn't apply to a man who has dedicated his life to the pursuit of justice, a man who, no woman in the last I don't know how many decades have said a bad word about him, and now all of a sudden we got the left that is using the words of Saul Alinsky, chaos and unruliness to bring socialism and anarchy to this country. I'm going to ask one question, Sean, I would like to know how many United States senators are willing to change the standards of justice against them to accusation without corroboration? And I guarantee you if we start and go down that road, things will change. HANNITY: Andy, you had a very powerful column today. I thought you rushed me to a similar but different points that you say that they cannot let these delay tactics. Dianne Feinstein had this back in July. You say, "They should not delay the judiciary committees hearing or turn it into even more of (Inaudible)." Rush said, confirm Kavanaugh or kiss the midterms goodbye. That's a powerful statement and I agree with it. ANDREW MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I agree with it, Sean. And you know, look, I think there's two things going on here. Number one with respect to Brett Kavanaugh's particular nomination, they are obviously trying to do everything they can to delay these accusations were brought out of time and an abuse of the process to try to push it beyond the midterms so that they can try to defeat this nomination in the hope of swinging the Senate and trying to have the votes to beat them. But I think in the greater context, what's happening here is this is a shot across the bow at everybody on the right, even every moderate in America who doesn't follow the radical left agenda, that this is what they will do to you if you try to crash the party. HANNITY: Yes. MCCARTHY: That they will stoop to-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I went to a history lesson and I've a lot more tape. MCCARTHY: -- in order to destroy people. HANNITY: Yes. Pam? BONDI: We've all been attacked, we've all been attacked in our careers. All of us. But they are-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: If you say that they were misogynist. BONDI: Right. HANNITY: If you say they committed sexual assault. BONDI: Right, they are trying to eviscerate a good human being, a man who has devoted his entire life to public service, it's inexcusable. PIRRO: And you know this guy, Avenatti, he's another of-- HANNITY: Of Stormy. PIRRO: You know, he chooses Stormy to turn-- HANNITY: And eventually to-- BONDI: I know. PIRRO: He chooses a judge on the second -- on the circuit court of appeals, one in the Supreme Court of gang rape. Mr. Avenatti, that is slander per se, that is the kind of accusations against the judge that should bring you before the grievance committee but nothing is going to happen. HANNITY: Last word goes to Andy McCarthy. MCCARTHY: And the kangaroo court have a vote? HANNITY: Have the vote. PIRRO: Have the vote. HANNITY: Where will Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski go? BONDI: Exactly. They better go with us. They better go with Judge Kavanaugh. PIRRO: You know what, they can talk all they want but if they are true to the Constitution they'll vote for this man. BONDI: They better. HANNITY: The stories are falling apart, but I want everybody to be heard. You know what, the people that have been fair here have been conservatives. The people that rushed to judgments are on the left just like in all those other high-profile cases. Thank you all for being with us. When we come back, Ed Henry with a live report from Washington. Also three women who know Brett Kavanaugh about for his character. Later, we will also have a pretty big announcement, stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with the very latest on the Kavanaugh confirmation and the controversy it has consumed, he is Fox News Channel's chief national correspondent and friend of the program, Ed Henry. Ed, what's going on tonight? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Sean, great to see you. Judge Brett Kavanaugh going on offense tonight declaring he will not be intimidated into withdrawing his nomination. As President Trump today said all this is political and he is going to stand by his nominee. You mentioned that exclusive interview, Judge Kavanaugh and his wife Ashley did with our colleague, Martha MacCallum, he was firm in saying he never sexually assaulted anyone. Although I am hearing from some Republicans tonight who are privately saying they think the answers were a bit robotic and on Thursday they're expecting him when he goes before the Senate judiciary panel to be much more fiery in his testimony like he was in a letter today to the Republican Chairman Chuck Grassley where in part, Kavanaugh said, "That these are smears, pure and simple, and he thinks it's debasing our public discourse." There was also an emotional letter from Dr. Christine Blasey Ford that she wrote to the judiciary panel where she said that she felt agony, yet urgency to air these allegations as a civic duty. Although, now three alleged witnesses in addition to Kavanaugh have all said they have no recollection of the alleged incident in high school. The New Yorker magazine meanwhile, as you noted, has published a new allegation by a classmate at Yale, Deborah Ramirez, who claims that Kavanaugh exposed himself to her even though the magazine admits it was not able to confirm that Kavanaugh was actually in that room. And the New York Times has revealed that the allegations is so thin that they interviewed several dozen people in the past week and could not corroborate the story and could not convince -- convincible report that in fact it was true. Now, Michael Avenatti says that within the next 48 hours he will be releasing even more salacious allegations against Kavanaugh. The bottom line tonight is that the Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said that this is a smear campaign against Kavanaugh. And he vowed that no matter what happens before the jucidiary committee on Thursday he is planning to have a vote up or down on the Senate floor in the next few weeks to get everyone in both parties on the record, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Ed Henry, thank you so much for being with us. Earlier tonight on Martha MacCallum, The Story right here on Fox News where Judge Brett Kavanaugh he came forward to defend his name in the wake of the vicious political smear campaign that is currently under weighing against him. Here's what he said. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRETT KAVANAUGH, U.S. APPEALS COURT JUDGE: I've never sexually assaulted anyone, not in high school, not ever. I've always treated women with dignity and respect. Listen to the people who have known me best through my whole life, the one that has known me since high school. The 65 who overnight signed a letter from school saying I always treated them with dignity and respect. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Joining us now, three women who have known Mr. Kavanaugh for over a decade. Some over 25 years, Anita McBride, Monica Mastal, and Cathie Martin with us. Thank you for all for being here. I know it's hard for people who don't usually do TV. Let me start, Monica, with you. You are one of the original 65 that knew him back in his high school days and not one has said it, take my name off the list. And in total, 220 people have spoken out in favor of Judge Kavanaugh. And speak of his character and what a gentleman he was. I mean, I felt bad for him having to answer certain questions tonight. What do you make of this new allegation, and why are all of you standing so strongly behind him? MONICA MASTAL, BRETT KAVANAUGH'S FORMER COLLEAGUE: I don't believe the new allegation. I believe when Brett denies something, he's telling the truth. That it was not corroborated, it wasn't that the New York Times ask two people, they ask dozens of people and they can't even find that he was in the room. So if you can't corroborate an accusation, I don't see how it can possibly be believed. But I also believed Brett when he said he doesn't do something and he said it under oath he didn't do it. HANNITY: Look, I look at the New Yorker and I look at all the things that Ms. Ramirez said. And Cathie, I will throw this to you. CATHIE MARTIN, BRETT KAVANAUGH'S FORMER COLLEAGUE: Sure. HANNITY: Not one person that either Professor Ford or Ms. Ramirez bring up as these substantiating witnesses in this case. Say a single thing that corroborates their story, not one. MARTIN: They are completely uncorroborated allegations, and Brett has unequivocally denied them and I believe him because it's inconsistent with everything we know about him as a person. I've known him for over 20 years, in the professional context in the White House, and also as a close, personal friend. And nothing about this gels with the person that we know and that is why you have had such an outpouring of support from women who know him, throughout every stage of his life. HANNITY: You've known him for over two decades. MARTIN: Yes. HANNITY: When you look at the 11th hour of all of this and the fact that in the case of Professor Ford, they have this back in July and only today returned over the original letter to the Republicans, I mean, it's shocking to me that people -- that so wrong. As Senator Collins said it, it's not fair to anybody to hold something like that back. MARTIN: The timing of that release of this information is a very disturbing, given that we had a full hearing and a process in place. And it isn't fair to Brett Kavanaugh and it's not actually fair to Dr. Ford, either, the way this has unfolded. And I don't believe the process currently has really gotten to the bottom of this. And I hope that on Thursday we will hear from both of them and we will continue to hear what Brett Kavanaugh said today, which is that this did not happen unequivocally and that none of it is true. HANNITY: You know, Anita, if you look at the 36 years, all of these people that knew him in high school and all these people that knew him in college, and knew him in law school, and all of these people that worked with him over the years -- you worked with him the Bush administration, and others - - women that have clerked for Judge Kavanaugh and worked with him on the court, they say that his character is really a cut, noticeable cut above the average person. What was your experience? ANITA MCBRIDE, BRETT KAVANAUGH'S FORMER COLLEAGUE: Well, absolutely. You gave me the perfect question, to be able to at say to you I have lived in this town and worked in this town for 35 years, three different administrations. I could count on one hand of the numbers of people who rise to the level of such great integrity and character that I would sit here and defend to the death. Like Brett Kavanaugh. And in his letter to Senator Grassley, and Senator Feinstein, the recent one that was released today, he is saying he owes it to all of us to defend his dignity. We owe it to him because he is an example of really what is happening in this country right now. This is a sickening spectacle of what's happening on Capitol Hill. I've never seen anything like it, and I have been through a number of Supreme Court nominations in three administrations. This is really such a shock to our institution. They are there to protect the fairness for everyone. HANNITY: Monica, Cathie, and Anita, you are three of over 200 that speak the same way about Judge Kavanaugh. I think it's important the American people hear from you. Thank you all for being with us. When we come back, we'll have more on Judge Kavanaugh. Also Rod Rosenstein will meet face-to-face with President Trump on Thursday. Sara Carter and Gregg Jarrett have the latest development and much more, stay with us. And an announcement. HANNITY: Now Rod Rosenstein is set to meet with the president face-to-face on Thursday. Joining us now with reaction, Gregg Jarrett, number one New York Times bestselling author of the "The Russia Hoax," and Sara Carter, investigative reporter. Let's go to you first. We usually go to Sara because she gives us news, but let's go to you first on this. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: You may be right that this could be a set up to get the president to fire Rod Rosenstein. And of course the media and Democrats which is redundant we go a hair on fire crazy about it. So in the alternative perhaps it would be wise to simply relieve Rod Rosenstein of oversight of the special counsel case pending an investigation into these very serious charges. HANNITY: Gregg, let's throw this to Sara. Sara, I have never been more certain in my life that they want the president to fire Rosenstein. And if you would have done it on Friday they would have called it and compare it to the Saturday night massacre, call it a Friday night massacre. They want it so bad, they can taste it. Is he conflicted? Yes. Are there major problems? Yes. The president shouldn't have to do this. That's Jeff Sessions that's his department. Where is he again? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Where is Jeff Sessions, Sean. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: No idea. CARTER: Everybody is asking these questions and I think Gregg has a point here. The allegations of the New York Times are very serious. Whether or not there are people within the administration that are willing to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove the president or wiretapped the president at one point in time, the president needs to investigate this whether the inspector general investigates it. I don't know. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, they're saying that he was being sarcastic to Andrew McCabe who we also know-- CARTER: Maybe. HANNITY: -- lied. Or leaked. CARTER: We think a lot of people are lying, Sean, there's a lot of people that are lying on the New York Times had that anonymous op-ed out, apparently from somebody in the administration. I think the most important thing for the president to do in order to regain the trust back at this Department of Justice is to do hat Gregg said. Find a way to investigate this matter and put it behind them, and if he finds out that Rod Rosenstein really did do that and not in a joking matter, he has the authority under article two to remove him. HANNITY: But rod has the keys to the kingdom. Rod gets to decide-- (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: There-- HANNITY: Wait, wait. He gets to decide and tell Mueller, don't subpoena. He gets to decide to come release or don't release the final report. JARRETT: You are thinking tactically, unthinking fairness and justice. HANNITY: You are thinking legally. JARRETT: That's right. HANNITY: Being the good lawyer. JARRETT: There are legitimate myriad reasons for Rosenstein to be removed from the special counsel case. He is a fact witness and he is the chief prosecutor. You can't do that, that violates federal regulations. HANNITY: Sara, last word for you tonight as we're little short on time obviously with the Kavanaugh stuff. CARTER: Sean, I do understand what you're saying. I'm going to agree with Gregg on this, as far as like taking a step back and looking at it. The president will make his decision on Thursday. HANNITY: We'll see, and we may will have more information by that. Thank you both. All right. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh had an amazing warning for the GOP, and I have an announcement, straight ahead. HANNITY: Earlier today, Rush Limbaugh had a very stern warning for Senate Republicans. I hope they were listening. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: If the Republicans do not get this vote taken and have Kavanaugh confirmed, you can kiss the midterms goodbye, you can kiss goodbye holding the House, and you can kiss goodbye holding the Senate. Because whatever the Democrats think of their base, the one thing I know is, that if you guys fold on this and gave and keep bending over backwards, you've done that enough. You've demonstrated that you don't hate women, you've demonstrated that you are open-minded, you've demonstrated that you want to hear from her. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Rush Limbaugh. I hope those are listening. Quick programming note, starting tomorrow, we will be live from Washington, D.C., for all of this news. That's tomorrow night at 9 Eastern. Let not your heart be troubled. We will always be fair and balanced. Laura Ingraham, big news night. No time for chit chat. 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Sean, great to see you. HANNITY: Great to see you in New York there by the way. INGRAHAM: All right. Fantastic show. See you in Washington tomorrow. Good evening, I am Laura Ingraham. This is the "The Ingraham Angle" live from New York tonight. With the president just across town from us, two require major political battles are raging in Washington, D.C. Of course, the 11th hour smears of Brett Kavanaugh continue unabated as yet another uncorroborated accusation is his way. My message to the GOP in just moments, along with the reaction from Dan Bongino, Ann Coulter, Wendy Long, and many more. And will he stay or will he go? Rod Rosenstein's fate in limbo tonight after conflicting reports swirling around about a resignation or straight up removal. Congressman Mark Meadows has some choice words. He'll be with us exclusively tonight.But first, Democratic emotional extortion and the lessons to be learned. That's the focus of tonight's "Angle"." Now we saw this coming about two weeks ago when Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh -- remember when he first appeared before the Senate Judiciary Committee? Rather than mount any serious argument, Democrats and their activist allies resorted to theatrics and paid, preplanned protests. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) SEN. CHUCK GRASSLEY (R), IOWA: I welcome everyone to this confirmation hearing on the nomination of Judge -- SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: Mr. Chairman -- GRASSLEY: -- Brett Kavanaugh. HARRIS: Mr. Chairman, we cannot possibly move forward, Mr. Chairman -- GRASSLEY: I extend that your confidential documents -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I urge you to shut this hearing down. GRASSLEY: You are out of order. SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), DEMOCRAT: Mr. Chairman, I appeal to be recognized -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Brett Kavanaugh is a violation of women's rights! GRASSLEY: -- or make sensations (ph) SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: Mr. Chairman, I move to -- (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Barnum and Bailey would have been proud. Well, unable to stop Kavanaugh, based on his judicial record, which is stellar, Democrats resorted to this late in the game smear job that they tried with my old boss, Clarence Thomas, 17 years ago. Well, you all know by now that Dianne Feinstein sat on Dr. Christine Ford's allegations for six weeks, never bringing it to the attention of the judiciary committee, until of course it was conveniently leaked. Well, this alleged assault has not been confirmed by any of the four other people that she claims were at the party in question. She was 15 and Kavanaugh was 17. And then yesterday, a week after the Ford allegation came to light, another decades-old claim surfaced, this time in "The New Yorker." College classmate of Kavanaugh, Deborah Ramirez, claims that while a freshman at Yale, he exposed himself to her at a boozy dorm party. Even though she was drinking herself at the time of the alleged incident, so much so that she was slurring her words and foggy, Ramirez says he saw Kavanaugh pulling up his pants after someone exposed themselves to her. So it must have been him -- must have been he. Note that "The New Yorker" writer Ronan Farrow and co-writer Jane Mayer couched the allegation this way in the title saying, "Senate Democrats investigate new allegation of sexual misconduct, from Brett Kavanaugh's college years." So whatever the democrats are investigating, it lacks a witness. "The New Yorker" admits that no one witnessed this alleged incident. In fact, Ms. Ramirez's roommate, who claims that they shared everything, heard nothing of it. The only person that the dynamic journalistic duo of Farrow and Mayer could find to substantiate the claims really didn't. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN DICKERSON, CBS NEWS HOST: Jane, the corroborating witness which you says has all the details including Kavanaugh's name, where did that witness come from and where did that witness get the information about this from, if that person doesn't know Ramirez? JANE MAYER, STAFF WRITER, THE NEW YORKER: He remembers it from -- he was in the same dorm, same little building on Yale's old campus. And he remembers it clearly. I asked him, you know, before -- DICKERSON: But did he see it? MAYER: No, as I've said, he heard it from someone who was there. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He heard it from someone and someone in a small little dorm in the old campus. Great reporting. Enter stage left the old gray lady, "The New York Times" reports that they spent a week trying to verify the Ramirez story, interviewing several dozen people, but -- drum roll please -- "could find no one with firsthand knowledge." That is why they didn't run with it. Ms. Ramirez herself contacted former Yale classmates and she asked if they were called if the incident ever happened and told some of them that she herself could not be certain that Mr. Kavanaugh was the one who exposed himself. But within a span of six days and after consulting with classmates and Democrats, Ramirez magically recovered her hidden memories. Here's Ronan Farrow. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, ABC NEWS: Why did you come forward? RONAN FARROW, CONTRIBUTOR, THE NEW YORKER: She came forward because senate Democrats began looking at this claim. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Aha! Now we know why Feinstein, Schumer, Gillibrand and the whole crew was so desperately wanting to put off the Kavanaugh-Ford hearing, which the Republicans, remember, had originally scheduled for today. They needed their piles in the media to have additional time to jump on what they were investigating, the Democrats, and find someone, anyone, who knew Kavanaugh and could level a salacious, outrageous charge against them. Who is Deborah Ramirez? We don't know all that much about her. She's a registered Democrat who "The New Yorker" says works on behalf of "social justice and social change." Of course, right on cue, Feinstein is now demanding that Thursday's hearing be postponed to the third week of -- never. Kavanaugh is himself defiant, standing his ground as he told Martha MacCallum tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT NOMINEE: The truth is I've never sexually assaulted anyone, in high school or otherwise. I am not questioning and have not questioned that perhaps Dr. Ford at some point in her life was sexually assaulted by someone in someplace, but what I know is I have never sexually assaulted anyone. I want a fair process where I can defend my integrity, and I know I am telling the truth. I know my lifelong record and I'm not going to let false accusations drive me out of this process. I have faith in God and I have faith in the fairness of the American people. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The American people may be fair but the Democrat jackals on the committee are circling. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAKE TAPPER, CNN HOST: Doesn't Kavanaugh have the same presumption of innocence as anyone else in America? SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: I put his denial in the context of everything that I know about him in terms of how he approaches his cases. As I said, his credibility is already very questionable in my mind and in the minds of a lot of my fellow judiciary committee members, the Democrats. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: She gave it all the way there. It's not about whether these women have been wrong. Many of them probably have. It's not about respecting the presumption of innocence, either. This is about denying Donald Trump a fifth vote on the Supreme Court. But the democrats, I'm telling you, they should take a breath, and they should recognize the new standard that they are sitting here for all nominees going forward. Are we really suggesting that all aspects of future Democratic nominees, their high school and college behavior, that should be subjected to scrutiny and investigation? Well, that should be loads of fun. The Republicans should have held the vote last week as planned. Ken Starr said that a week ago on this program. They should not have indulged the circus. Had they done so, the right way, Justice Kavanaugh would already be settling into his new chambers at the Supreme Court. And a warning, if he is not confirmed, Republican voters may turn on their party as a result. And that's "The Angle." Joining us now with reaction, Harmeet Dhillon, attorney and RNC committeewoman from California, Richard Goodstein, former advisor to Bill and Hillary Clinton, and with me in studio, Wendy Long, former law clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas and a former law partner of Judge Brett Kavanaugh. Wendy, I want to start with you. It's been so much time. It's been so much time, I think I said 17 years, about our former boss, Justice Thomas' confirmation that was 27 years ago -- hard to believe. Your take on what happened. This new allegations came out again right after the last deadline was passed. WENDY LONG, FORMER LAW PARTNER OF BRETT KAVANAUGH: Well Laura, it's actually been 31 years since the Democrats have started this whole circus as our former boss accurately characterized it. They played dirty and they play to win, and they lie, and they go trolling through these witnesses and thrust them into the spotlight when they have a necessarily asked to be put in the spotlight, inviting them in some cases to perjure themselves. And this train wreck is happening. Again, I was so excited to see the president today strongly defending Brett Kavanaugh and to see Mr. Kavanaugh speaking for himself, you know, with his wife. The American people can see what this is about. And one reason they elected Donald Trump was because they knew he was going to appoint strong constitutional justices to the Supreme Court. And that is what the people want, that is what this president is keeping his promise about, and this game of playing dirty is going to go on and on. We just can't cave into it. What is amazing to me, Laura, is that people on the Republican side say, oh, she deserves to be heard, she deserves to be heard. I don't think she deserves to be heard. What she deserves and what we all deserve is for any allegation to be investigated but should be investigated by the FBI in private, in time. Senator Feinstein shouldn't be sitting on this as long. INGRAHAM: Yes, this went on. We had days of hearings. Richard Goodstein, I want to play another clip from the Kavanaugh interview tonight with his wife, with Martha MacCallum. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARTHA MACCALLUM, FOX NEWS HOST: There is one roommate. I think his last name was Roche. He said, you know, that he could see this kind of thing happening, that you drank a lot in high school, drank a lot in college, and although he hadn't seen or heard these incidents himself, that it added up to him, that it made sense that you treated women that way. KAVANAUGH: I've always treated women with dignity and respect. He does not corroborate the incident at all. MACCALLUM: You remember him. He was your roommate. KAVANAUGH: I do remember him. MACCALLUM: So why do you think he would say that? KAVANAUGH: What I know, I'm not going to speculate about motives. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Richard? RICHARD GOODSTEIN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: I have a lot of friends, like everybody on your panel tonight, Laura, who are friends of Brett Kavanaugh, when you worked with him, who swear by him, who absolutely say he is the salt of the earth, and Bill Cosby had people saying exactly the same thing and so did Charlie Rose, and so did Les Moonves, and so did Roger Ailes. Look, for whatever reason, Democrats are believing her -- I'm talking now about talking Chrisitine Blasey Ford. I would put Ramirez aside. I was interested that that is where you spend your time. And Republicans are believing Brett Kavanaugh. And there is a way to resolve this, which is get the FBI, and I agree with Wendy. Now, should the public and Brett Kavanaugh's reputation for decades be besmirched because for whatever reason, this came out later rather than sooner? I would say, what is the rush? Is it because of the midterms and the fear that the senate might flip? The fact is I think Senator McConnell could get this through. If he wanted he could get somebody else in the lame duck. INGRAHAM: OK, so I just want to understand this new standard, OK. Because going forward, this is going to be wild, Harmeet. We were all in college, we were all in high school, Harmeet and Wendy were much cooler than I was, but we all do stupid stuff. I don't know what happened. I didn't know Kavanaugh. I've known him for a long time. This isn't the Brett I know and it's a long time ago, 30 plus years ago. Is this where we are going, guys? Are we going back into people's -- how many times you get drunk at a party? You go to a keg party, how many girls were there? What did you do? And then at what point do those allegations, uncorroborated by any contemporaneous witness, when does not get to smear someone who has had an unbelievably exemplary life as an adult in the workforce, promoting women, advancing the cause of women? When does this stop because I find this to be madness, utter madness, as a standard. Forget who Brett is or who Trump is, as a standard, high school, college, we should go back to sixth grade or is it fourth grade? Harmeet? HARMEET DHILLON, ATTORNEY: No, I agree with you, Laura. This is outrageous, but as Wendy pointed out, the Democrats have been doing this for over three decades. I mean, the shamelessness, Teddy Kennedy -- Teddy Chappaquiddick Kennedy is standing up there and judging other people about their behavior and their standards. So they have no qualms about doing this but just like with Harry Reid and getting rid of the 60 vote standard in the Senate, they're going to come to regret this because eventually the standard is going to be applied to them and it's an impossible standard. To Richard's point about the FBI investigating it, Richard, that's not how that works. The fact of the matter is that memories fade and everybody who is a lawyer knows that eyewitness memory is the most unreliable and particularly when you involve alcohol and you involve the passage of time, there is no forensic evidence here and there is nothing that the FBI is going to b able to do to find out the truth here. All we have is a smear -- INGRAHAM: He said-she said, guys. DHILLON: -- uncorroborated witnesses. INGRAHAM: But I want to restate -- yes, hold on. I want to restate what the "New York Times" said in the 16th paragraph of their piece today. That the accuser in this most recent case, herself, was calling around her friends, OK. After six days, she was able to remember this. She was being prodded, clearly by the Democrats and activists. I don't blame her really for this. Sixteen paragraphs and you learn that she called people, they couldn't get anyone to corroborate her, and then one of them at least said, she couldn't even be sure if it was Brett. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: The reason the "New York Times" didn't go with this is because it was a ridiculous story and Ronan Farrow, who I think I've done some great work, won a Pulitzer, not for this type of reporting. I cannot believe that "The New Yorker" went with this. Wendy, I want to play for you something that Chris Coons and Dick Blumenthal both said about the burden of proof, another new standard for the Democrats. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BLUMENTHAL: There is a burden on the part of the White House to do the investigation. What are they hiding? SEN. CHRIS COONS (D), DELAWARE: It is Judge Kavanaugh who is seeking a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court and who I think now bears the burden of disproving his allegations. (END VIDEO CLIP) LONG: You can't prove a negative. That's just the oldest thing in the world. You cannot possibly prove a negative. INGRAHAM: Do you think they really care about what happened to these women or is it about the fifth vote (ph). LONG: Of course not. This is about them. It's about their political races. It's about keeping the Supreme Court in the hands of activists and not letting President Trump have this great nominee. It is not about the women. The women are being used by these senators. INGRAHAM: And he's a Bush nominee, let's not forget. He was put on the Court of Appeals as a Bush nominee. Panel, thank you so much. We got to get exclusive reaction now from the White House. The director of communications, strategic communications there, Mercedes Schlapp. Mercedes, thanks for being here tonight. How is the White House feeling after that interview with Martha MacCallum and the protesters descending, they all have the same printed t-shirts on, "Be a Hero" outside of Susan Collins' office. I don't know why they were allowed to hang out in the capital. They should have been thrown out. How does the White House feel tonight? MERCEDES SCHLAPP, WHITE HOUSE DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS: We are so proud of Brett Kavanaugh and Ashley. They went out there tonight. They spoke from the heart and they sent a very powerful message. Brett said he's going to fight. He's going to stand strong. He's not going to be intimidated by those Democrats who are placing false claims on him. He is strong in defending his character and his integrity, and I think that was such an important message for the American people to hear tonight. The pain that they are going through, the vile threats on their family and the mere fact that the Democrats are playing politics with this family, with this man's life, someone who has dedicated his life to public service, Laura. Aand I have to tell you, when you listen to these Democrats and when they say, you know, the verdict is in, Brett Kavanaugh is guilty. They believe her, then why the heck are we having a hearing if they are believing her and not even giving Brett Kavanaugh the fair process that he deserves especially after six weeks that they had these lengthy hearings, that they've asked him to over 1,000 questions, and yet the Democrats continue to try to destroy Brett Kavanaugh's reputation. INGRAHAM: Mercedes, what is the message to Jeff Flake tonight? From by all my sources, it's not so much Susan Collins who is wavering here. I think she has been solidified in her view in fairness, given the activists that have been involved here and what happened over the last week, clearly delaying this to try to get -- wait for this report to come out. What's the message for him tonight given what we have seen? SCHLAPP: Well, I think the message for all the Republican senators is that Judge Kavanaugh stands ready to testify. He's ready to clear his name. He was ready to do that last week. INGRAHAM: Mercedes, with all due respect, I have so much respect for you. I don't think it is possible for Brett Kavanaugh to go up there in this atmosphere and be expected -- we know he says he categorically denies this. He had said this repeatedly, and letters and in statements tonight. I think it's a mistake to keep giving into these tactics. The tactics of the left are like -- this is like political terrorism, intimidation, emotional blackmail and extortion. We've all seen it in different forms in our lives, that this is hideous what they have done. You need a little more righteous indignation, not coming out of you but coming out of some of the other senators on Capitol Hill because this is beyond the pale. SCHLAPP: And you saw Majority Leader Mitch McConnell come out strong, talking about the smear campaign by the Democrats, and there will be a vote. And we're going to move in that direction and I think we all agree that it's time for a vote. This is all the Democrats are trying to do to buy time. They want to figure out, what other story they can try to fabricate -- INGRAHAM: Right. They will come up with something else. SCHLAPP: Let me tell you something. Enough -- exactly. Enough is enough. INGRAHAM: Yes. I hope the hearing -- I hope the vote is tomorrow. LONG: Laura, we can stop this thing about caving in (ph) and holding hearing. It's not the right venue for this. And the proof of it is, the senators don't even want to ask questions. INGRAHAM: Yes. Symone Sanders -- speaking of what the pundits are saying about all this, she was on CNN today about what the majority leader said about the smears. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SYMONE SANDERS, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: The senate majority leader calling this a smear campaign is a small dog whistle to the base of the Republican Party, may be even Trump base, talking about -- suggesting he doesn't believe these women. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Mercedes, "it's just another dog whistle." Now, if you say something as a smear, I don't know what that's about but that is where the pundit class is going. Final thoughts. SCHLAPP: Well, there is no question and I think what judge Kavanaugh is asking for is a fair process. He has spent time talking to the senators basically making his case as to why he is the most qualified judge to be on the Supreme Court. And he deserves his time, he deserves that vote -- INGRAHAM: He already had his time. Mercedes, I think they should never -- I mean, it's too late now but the process was fair and they reopened the process. Ken Starr said they never should have done that. I'm going to keep citing Ken Starr because he said this a week ago on radio and TV with me -- he was so right. Grassley and Flake and all those guys, I mean, Grassley is trying to do his best, but I think Jeff flake, you now see with going on here. Jeff Flake has got to do the right thing and all the other senators. We appreciate all of our panelist time. Wendy and Harmeet, Richard and Mercedes. Thank you so much. Of course, the clown show that has risen in the wake of the Kavanaugh accusations needs a court jester. Enter Michael Avenatti. Bongino and Hahn debate this, next. INGRAHAM: As if the circus surrounding the Kavanaugh confirmation fight could not get any uglier or more absurd, Stormy Daniels' lawyer, Michael Avenatti, is now injecting himself into the situation. Shocker. Lurid allegations against Kavanaugh and for more, we are joined by Fox News national chief correspondent, Ed Henry, with more, Ed. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS NATIONAL CHIEF CORRESPONDENT: Laura, great to see you. While Republican Mitch McConnell called all of these allegations a shameful smear campaign and charged Chuck Schumer and senate Democrats of throwing all this mud that they could manufacture he said, even Democrats seem to be drawing the line at not being seen as taking dirt for Michael Avenatti. The attorney for Stormy Daniels is now claiming in the next 48 hours, he would be unveiling a new accuser or accusers with even more salacious allegations to level against Judge Brett Kavanaugh. Yet "Politico" is reporting a series of top Democrats are steering clear of Avenatti. Senator Brian Schatz of Hawaii saying, "I have no comment about Michael Avenatti." Elizabeth Warren cautioned, until they get more information, "there's not much they can do with these charges from Avenatti." Now, the first accuser, Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, wrote an emotional to the judiciary (ph) panel today where she told Republican Chairman Charles Grassley she felt agony yet urgency to air her allegations as a civic today. Though now three alleged witnesses in addition to Kavanaugh have all said they have no recollection of the alleged incident in high school. And officials in the county in Maryland where that assault allegedly happened said today they respect that victims of sexual assault do not always want to initiate a criminal probe but added, "The Montgomery County police department has not received a request by any alleged victim or victim's attorney to initiate a police report or criminal investigation regarding Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh." "The New Yorker" has published a new allegation by a classmate at Yale, Deborah Ramirez, who claims Kavanaugh exposed himself to her even though the "New York Times" had revealed the allegation is so thin it interviewed several dozen people in the past week alone and could not corroborate the story. Avenatti said he's going to have these new allegations and he said he's coming after Kavanaugh. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICAHEL AVENATTI, STORMY DANIEL'S LAWYER: Under no circumstances should Brett Kavanaugh be confirmed with a lifetime appointment to the U.S. Supreme Court before Mark Judge testifies under oath and before my client, Dr. Ford, and any other accuser, has her day before that committee under oath at an absolute minimum. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: And some are already lapping (ph) up the chance to get Avenatti into the story. At one point, in the 9:00 p.m. eastern hour tonight, both MSNBC and CNN were running interviews with Avenatti about Kavanaugh at the exact same moment. I guess one was live and one was on tape, Laura. INGRAHAM: The man is everywhere. Ed, thank you so much. And with reaction, Dan Bongino, NRA TV host and Chris Hahn, radio host, former aide to Senator Chuck Schumer. I want to go first to Chris. Chris, when Avenatti comes on the scene, to me, it's a huge negative for the Democrats. I mean, it becomes just another iteration of the Trump resistance. It's all about him. He talked about running for president in 2020. The clown show continues. Your reaction tonight? CHRIS HAHN, RADIO HOST: Yes, you know, I don't take these accusations seriously until I actually see somebody stand up and say that this actually happened. Now, I will say this about Avenatti. He was correct that the president was aware of the payouts to Stormy Daniels and the other model whose name I'm forgetting. That was proven right. He said that weeks before that was proven. But I don't just want to take accusations out of nowhere and say let's stop the process. He is right, I think Mark Judge must testify before this committee. He is a witness, I think it's in everyone's best interest -- INGRAHAM: He's already signed a statement by the penalty of perjury that he has no recollection of these events happening. No one who she claims was in the house party that Brett says -- Judge Kavanaugh said he was not at, has any corroborating information about that party. So, he has to testify. No, he doesn't. He could have been brought before the committee during the three and a half days that Judge Kavanaugh was up there, that the democrats, like Avenatti, are playing a big timing game here. And Dan Bongino, -- hold on, I'm going to get to Dan here, but I will come back to you Chris. I promise. Dan, 48 hours, he promises the big bombshell, and he said of his client, "Warning, my client re Kavanaugh has previously done work with the State Department, the U.S. Mint, DOJ. She has multiple -- had multiple security clearances in the past. GOP and others should be very careful in trying to suggest that she is not credible. The big drama building, Dan. BONGINO: Well, you know, it's tough to judge when he's talking. Avenatti is a carnival barker. He's a clown, but we don't know what he's talking about. Now, it's convenient that he's waiting until Wednesday night, the night before the hearing that is supposed to take place on Thursday where Dr. Ford is supposed to show up, which I don't think she will, by the way, and give her side of the story in front of the senate committee. Now, Laura, if you are serious on Mike Avenatti, who is a clown -- actually he's an embarrassment to clowns. Clowns don't want to be associated with Avenatti. He was serious with getting to the bottom of these charges, he would put the information out there now so credible people could do a credible investigation like Senator Grassley was trying to do with Dr. Ford before her team put together all these obstacles to getting Dr. Ford to show up. I mean, are they serious about this? I think Chris suggesting that Judge should show up as a witness -- what is he a witness to? You just said he testified under penalty of perjury. He has no idea what Dr. Ford is talking about. INGRAHAM: All the others did too. Chris, I cut you off before. Go ahead. HAHN: Look, it's one thing to testify on a piece of paper. It is another thing to stand there and be questioned and cross-examined by people who want to get to the facts and to the truth. And maybe he is telling the truth. I don't know. It would be great if he came in and said it. Look, here's the thing. The reason why there hasn't been a vote yet and there won't be a vote this week is because the Republicans themselves do not have the votes to confirm Brett Kavanaugh right now, and they won't have it on Thursday and they probably won't have it ever. And I do believe he is going to be withdrawn at some point. Collins said today she wants to see Ramirez testify before that committee before she votes. And I believe there are other Republicans who are similarly concerned. So this is a very -- INGRAHAM: I think that's because Collins knows it's probably not true. Collins knows that when someone says, she said she was slurring her words, she said she herself was drinking, she tried to get others to cooperate. They wouldn't. One guy in a dorm said he heard something. Chris, I really respect you as a person and a thinker, and I can't imagine that you would want someone you care about or love -- put politics aside -- to be treated this way in a "New Yorker" article with zero corroboration but a hell of a lot of politics. That is just not the way we can do business in the United States. It's not right. It's not just. HAHN: Look, I think there needs to be journalistic integrity. I think what "The New York Times" did was correct. But I do think there is time here and there is no rush. And I think we should get to the bottom of this. It's for him as well, frankly, because I think Judge Kavanaugh - INGRAHAM: We're worried about him? HAHN: If any of this is not true, I think -- INGRAHAM: OK. But I just want you both, do you think this should be the new standard? What you did in high school and what you did in college, no charges filed, someone at the 11th hour can come forward with an accusation, and that should be at for a promotion, a big job, Supreme Court, whatever. But any big job. Why just the court? High school and college now rules the day. That is what America has to focus on right now. Dan, real quick. HAHN: Laura -- BONGINO: Chris, listen. INGRAHAM: Real quick, we're almost out of time. BONGINO: This is a husband. This guy is entitled to defend himself. What's happening right now, to quote Clarence Thomas, is a national disgrace. This is an embarrassment. This man deserves better. I can't believe what's happening. HAHN: The Supreme Court, Dan. BONGINO: I get it, Chris, morals and ethics, Chris. Have a heart. Have a heart. HAHN: The Supreme Court deserves to have -- BONGINO: Have a heart, man. INGRAHAM: Why didn't "The New York Times" go with the story, guys? HAHN: If it's truly attempted rape, and that is horrible -- INGRAHAM: Guys, we are out of time. Fantastic panel, as always. Both of you are together explosive. Will he stay or will he go? Not talking about Kavanaugh, talking about Rod Rosenstein. Up in the air tonight. Thursday, big meeting with the president. Meadows up next. INGRAHAM: The other big story sharing the headlines with Kavanaugh is the fate of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Earlier today, depending on where you get your news, he was going to be fired or he had already verbally resigned. FOX News was able to confirm late this afternoon that Rosenstein had fully expected to be fired when he went to the White House today. Though, that does not seem to be the case as of now. Here's the president's reaction. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We'll be meeting at the White House and we'll be determining what is going on. We want to have transparency, we want to have open eyes. I look forward to meeting with Rod at that time. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Wherever the ends, my next guest says the Department of Justice under Jeff Sessions and Rosenstein has had just as much of a transparency problem as it did even under Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch, and that's saying something. Here to explain what all of that means is Congressman Mark Meadows, chair of the House Freedom Caucus, here exclusively with us tonight. Congressman, I have been dying to talk to you. This was a wild day. I thought it was a little overhyped. They had the camera on the car as it was leaving. I was like, is he crawling to the White House? It is only six blocks. But it took an hour for him to get over there. But it was a big, big drama, ended up nothing. Where do you think this ends up on Thursday? Where should it end up? Is it a trap to fire Rosenstein now, or where is your head at here? REP. MARK MEADOWS, (R) CHAIRMAN, HOUSE FREEDOM CAUCUS: Laura, I don't know that it's a trap. I think really what it comes down to is that Rod needs to be transparent with the American people. There was no plan to fire him this morning. I know there was all kinds of different scenarios that were out there, but quite frankly it was more a resignation question then a firing question today. And yet obviously, all of that changed. But here is what is it didn't change. We continue to have different narratives come out of the DOJ. And if indeed Rod Rosenstein said these things, which many believe that he did, many believe that he said it in a non-joking manner, then he needs to explain that not only to the president of the United States but the American people. And so we are pushing very hard to make sure that he comes in under oath to Congress and let the American people judge for themselves. I can tell you that if he does not, there are a number of us that are standing by really with impeachment documents that say we cannot have this kind of activity continue at DOJ. INGRAHAM: I don't get the joke. Are we saying it jokingly? I think someone who has that level of poor judgment, to joke about the 25th Amendment or wearing a wire on the president, number one, it's not funny. Two, it's not something you talk about. So either he has a really bizarre sense of humor or he actually said it was serious. MEADOWS: It's not. INGRAHAM: I don't buy this whole thing it's a big set up for Trump, I really don't. I think Rosenstein has been a disaster from day one. MEADOWS: I don't buy that either. INGRAHAM: Total nightmare of deputy attorney general. He melted and wet his pants the first second the Senate called him to answer some questions about the Russia investigation. It's like hot potato, I don't want to do it. You take it Bob Mueller. I think the whole thing was -- I'm sorry. But I think is one of the worst appointments ever. I want to play something from Jay Sekulow, then I want to get your response on the other side. This is what he said. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAY SEKULOW, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: If, in fact, Rod Rosenstein does end up resigning, I think it's really important that there would be a step back taken here and a review. And I think it's a review that has to be thorough and complete, and a review that has to include an investigation of what has transpired with all of these statements and all of these allegations, going back to the Strzok and Page and Bruce Ohr, and basically a timeout on this inquiry. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What about that, a timeout on the Mueller probe? Is that really realistic? MEADOWS: I don't know that it's realistic, but I do believe that there should be a timeout and there should be an accountability. Let me give you one prime example, Laura. We've got a double standard. You've got a couple of people that worked in the Trump campaign that are really being prosecuted for lying to the FBI. And yet we know that false testimony was given to Bruce Ohr by either Fusion GPS or Christopher Steele. We know that indeed they mentioned a person by the name of Cleta Mitchell and this whole narrative, the NRA actually being involved in a Russia collusion, they actually shared that with a DOJ official, and yet there are no prosecution that's being done there. And it was false testimony given to a DOJ person. We've got to make sure that there is one standard for everybody, and I can tell you that Rod Rosenstein is not implementing that, and it's time that we hold him accountable. INGRAHAM: But congressman, real quick, why is it that the president decided to go back on his decision to declassify those documents and kick it over to the I.G.? I still don't understand that. I understand Rosenstein was the one who brought the message to him, oh, you can't do this. And the president acceded to his wishes. Why? MEADOWS: I think the president is trying to be cautious to make sure that sources and methods are not out there. But I can tell you, I talked to the I.G. today. The Bruce Ohr 302s, there is no reason -- INGRAHAM: Those have to be released. MEADOWS: Two people that were there, they don't have security clearances, Bruce Ohr wasn't officially on the Russia investigation, so why not declassify them? INGRAHAM: Let the sunshine in. Congressman, thank you so much. Here with reaction, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Victor David Hanson. Victor, your reaction to what we just heard from Congressman Meadows. Rosenstein here for the moment, some conservatives, even my colleague Sean Hannity, said firing him would be a pretty big mistake on the part of the president. But we have a dysfunctional justice department, with all due respect to Attorney General Sessions. It's dysfunctional at the highest level. VICTOR DAVIS HANSON, HOOVER INSTITUTION: There's a political and legal problem. Politically, you don't want to distract from the Democrats on national TV trying to destroy three centuries of American jurisprudence with Kavanaugh. And that would be a distraction right now. It's booming - - there is a boomerang on them right now. But legally, Rod Rosenstein was at the center of firing Comey with his letter, and yet Mueller is investigating the firing of Comey, which is directly investigating himself. He signed a FISA warrant. That's going to come up under somebody's investigation. He was the adjudicator of information that was released by the DOJ to the House Intelligence Committee and other committees. He was involved in Uranium One and he saw no collusion, yet he's basically entrusting Mueller to look for collusion where it wasn't. He was in the Hillary email scandal, and yet he said that there was no violation of confidentiality or classified information, yet he helped get an indictment against General Cartwright for leaking. So he's got a lot of the conflict of interests, and I think the Donald Trump should just say, Rod, you are doing a great job. There's thousands of things you can do at the Justice Department, but you are not going to get yourself into a situation where you have these conflict of interests, so you are not going to be on the Mueller, you're not going to be doing anything with the FISA course. You're not to be transmitting documents or adjudicating what is redacted or not, and we are not going to have you looking at anything to do with Uranium One or email. And if you want to resign and go write a book where Michael Wolff and Omarosa left off, go ahead. But we like you, just do something else, but you won't be involved in these anymore. And that would be a lot better than firing him. INGRAHAM: Do we have an ambassadorship to Albania open? I think there might be a few positions still open in the administration. VDH, thanks so much. And what does Ann Coulter think of the Kavanaugh battle and Rosenstein? The outspoken commentator is here in New York. She'll be here to tell us all about it. Stay here. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARTHA MACCALLUM, FOX NEWS HOST: Nothing ever physical, you never met her, never kissed her, never touched her, nothing that you remember? JUDGE BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT NOMINEE: Correct. I never had any sexual or physical activity with Dr. Ford. I've never sexually assaulted anyone in high school or otherwise. I am not questioning and have not questioned that perhaps Dr. Ford at some point in her life was sexually assaulted by someone in someplace. But what I know is I have never sexually assaulted anyone in high school or at any time. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, as we told you, Thursday is shaping up to be a very important in Washington as the fate of Rod Rosenstein and Brett Kavanaugh could both hang in the balance. But are there stories connected? Seriously. "Vanity Fair" suggested today that Trump is using one controversy to bury the other, writing, quote, "The strategy was to try and do something really big. Trump wanted to nuke Rosenstein to save Kavanaugh's bacon." The article also goes on to report that Trump's allies are urging him to cut ties with Kavanaugh ahead of the midterms. Would that really fare well with his base? Joining us now with reaction, conservative columnist and author of "Resistance is Futile, How the Trump Hating Left Lost Its Collective Mind," Ann Coulter. It's great to see you. I mean -- ANN COULTER, AUTHOR, "RESISTANCE IS FUTILE": I have an idea for how you can distract from what's happening with Kavanaugh. Start building the wall. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: GoFundMe campaign. COULTER: That would work. INGRAHAM: Brick by brick. Brick by brick. And this is wild, though. Brett, I know you've known him, I've known him for so long. But the Democrats play for keeps. Republicans try to play this genteel game of, oh, we respect, everybody has her right to be heard. Oh, really, because it took a while for keeps Keith Ellison's accuser to be heard. Juanita Broaddrick has never really been heard. The list goes on and on. Kathleen Willey basically has never recovered from her assault by President Clinton. They don't care about that. COULTER: Right. And that brings up two things. One is, I don't think -- I like you warning Democrats, you're going to have to live under this standard, too. Oh, no, they won't. INGRAHAM: Because the Republicans won't do it. COULTER: Those change day to day. If it was the Duke lacrosse players accused or a fraternity house at UVA or Bill Clinton, oh, sorry, that is when you believe the women. If it's Bill Clinton, no, women just lie all the time. But also, the reason we have rules of evidence, they keep saying this is promotion and he won't go to prison. No, the feminists always pull this. They want to label men rapists based on standards that have nothing to do with logic or 1,000 years of the rules of evidence. They did this with the Violence Against Women Act. I defended black men in the south falsely accused of rape under the Violence Against Women Act which will label you a rapist under Civil Standards. INGRAHAM: Let's stick to this, because this isn't a legal proceeding. We know this is political. This is political, and Republicans have to fight it as such. COULTER: What I am saying is to throw out the rules of evidence just because you are saying this is a promotion is a nonsense argument. You are labeling this man a rapist. This isn't going to stop. You and I know how Democrats play. They are just going to keep coming out with charges. They should have voted today. INGRAHAM: They should have voted today, should never have moved the hearing. They should have voted last Thursday, frankly. They shouldn't have entertained any of this. I think it was obviously orchestrated. We learned tonight, just tonight, a few moments ago -- and we'll get it on the other side, we'll hit this on the other side -- Collins, Murkowski, others, maybe even John Thune -- COULTER: The other women, Flake and Sasse. INGRAHAM: They're going to wait until Thursday to make their decision. And Collins wants Ramirez to be heard. COULTER: It's never going to end. INGRAHAM: "The New York Times" wouldn't even go with that until they had to write about it. We're going to hold you over. More on this, more with Ann Coulter, including Michelle Obama's new get out the vote drive. Don't go away. INGRAHAM: OK, back with me now, Ann Coulter. Ann, if Kavanaugh goes down, what happens to the Republicans in the U.S. Senate? COULTER: It's a huge blue wave. There's nothing. There's no wall. There's nothing. And I would say -- INGRAHAM: The Democrats win, take the Senate, take the House. COULTER: It's going to be a huge blue wave. Why fight for them if they want to fight for us? And I'd say to Collins, Murkowski, and the other women, Flake and Sasse, pretend this is a Jeb Bush nominee, because a lot of this has to do with them hating Donald Trump INGRAHAM: But he is a George W. Bush guy. COULTER: I know. I know. But it is their hatred of Trump that is driving people -- INGRAHAM: George W. Bush should come out give a speech as should Anthony Kennedy, and should frankly the chief justice of the United States. COULTER: That's a great idea. INGRAHAM: I think John Roberts should come out and say this is an attack on the judiciary. This process -- no one is going to be want to be nominated to a federal court in the future. Who would? Who wants to be nominated? COULTER: But also, who wants to run as a Republican? This is why you and I voted for McCain, this is why liberals, never Trumpers, voted for Trump, for the judicial nominees. If Republicans can't pull this off. INGRAHAM: Ann, I want to quickly get your thoughts. Reaction to Democrats pulling out all the stops to boost their turnout ahead of the midterms. Michelle Obama happy to step into the void. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHELLE OBAMA, FORMER U.S. FIRST LADY: I am sick of all the chaos and the nastiness of our politics. (APPLAUSE) MICHELLE OBAMA: It's exhausting and, frankly, it's depressing. So I understand wanting to shut it all out and just go on and just try to live your life. (END VIDEO CLIP) COULTER: Yes, I think the screaming protesters and the lying, slanderous charges against Kavanaugh really is Michelle Obama, they go low, we go high -- INGRAHAM: And they attacked Ted Cruz tonight at a restaurant. They drove him out of a restaurant, started screaming at him. That just broke. Raymond mentioned it to me on Twitter. COULTER: Democrats drive them away but then Republicans bring them back to the Democrats. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Michelle Obama said it's the Republicans who are nasty. OK. They actually spy on Americans, but we actually stand up for our principles. Ann Coulter, thanks so much for being with us. And we'll be right back. INGRAHAM: By the way, some good news. GOP favorability the highest in seven years, 45 to 44. That's good news. This whole thing could turn around on the Democrats and bite them in the posterior if they are not too careful. Driving people out of restaurants, all the nastiest, besieging people in their Senate offices, last minute, uncorroborated allegations. The Republican Party, you're way better than this. I hope you prove all the critics wrong on Thursday. Keep it right there. Shannon Bream and the "FOX News at Night" team are up next. Load-Date: September 25, 2018 End of Document Deputy A.G. Rosenstein Reportedly Discussed Wearing Wire Around Trump, Invoking 25th Amendment; Democrats Rush to Vilify Judge Kavanaugh; Some Analysts Have Now Suggested that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein Should be Terminated by President or Trump or Either He Could Recuse Himself from the Russia Probe after a Report Has Surfaced that He Suggested to Wear Wires to Record President Trump; Christine Blasey Ford's Legal Team Says that They are Requesting for Another Day to Decide on Whether or Not They'll Agree to Attend a Hearing over Ford's Allegation against Judge Brett Kavanaugh Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 21, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8043 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Jason Chaffetz, Kristin Fisher, Tammy Bruce, Sebastian Gorka, Doug Schoen Guests: Alan Dershowitz Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Welcome to HANNITY on what is an incredible breaking news night on all fronts. Rod Rosenstein is in big trouble tonight, as are others as we are witnessing a deep state coup. I'll explain in detail. There is no doubt any longer. And by the way, we have a very special message for the president of the United States tonight. He needs not to fall into a trap. Now, according to breaking news from "The New York Times" today in the spring of 2017, the deputy attorney general actually plotted to secretly record his conversations with President Trump. But there is also more. "The Times" is reporting that Rod Rosenstein floated an idea that invoke the 25th Amendment to remove a sitting president, this president, from office. Now, for months, we have been warning you about all these deep state characters. People in power at the FBI, the DOJ and elsewhere. Now, we've also told you about conflict of interest surrounding the Russia probe. We have slammed people's role in committing fraud on FISA court. This is all now going to be proven and told we have been right all along. And tonight, we have more evidence. It's scary but it's also we are getting close to resolution. We have long said that Mueller's witch hunt should never have happened. The investigators needed to be investigated, especially those overseeing the entire mess. Well, now, in this case, Rod Rosenstein's blatant anti- Trump bias, including Andy McCabe, a known liar, and the efforts to take down the president you voted for are now tonight in full view. We have a full cast of characters, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Alan Dershowitz, Sebastian Gorka all will weigh in tonight. Plus, we have the very latest on the confirmation of Judge Kavanaugh. Negotiations are still underway to this hour. For his accuser, Professor Ford to appear under oath. There is now a 10:00 p.m. deadline. One hour right now, Professor Ford has to tell the Senate whether or not she plans on appearing. They have tried to accommodate in every way imaginable, and you should hear what Dianne Feinstein is saying tonight. We'll explain. Democrats don't seem to care at all. They have already convicted Judge Kavanaugh in the court of public opinion. No presumption of innocence. No due process. We have a lot to break down for you tonight. We're going to go slow, a lot to get in. Stay tuned for our Friday night breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. There is one man at the very top of this Russian collusion witch hunt. Now, after Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself from all things Russia, well, the deputy attorney general, Rod Rosenstein, assumed the responsibility. Now, this despite having massive conflicts of interest. Remember, it was Rod Rosenstein who drafted a report detailing why James Comey should be fired. It was Rod Rosenstein who signed off on the third FISA renewal application, the fourth FISA warrant against Trump campaign associate Carter Page. And, of course, all of this as the Nunes memo and the Grassley-Graham memo says the bulk of information came from the phony Russian dossier that Hillary paid for, the dirty dossier with Russian lies. Now, for months, we have literally been shouting from a mountaintop. As a matter of fact, well over a year now, that this whole process is and has been corrupt. Nobody in this equation can be trusted tonight. And now, we have confirmation. "The New York Times" reporting today that during meetings with top DOJ FBI bi officials, including Lisa Page, and Andrew McCabe, who was a known liar, we know that a grand jury has been convened in his case. Rod Rosenstein actually planned to push a, quote, according to "The New York Times," secretly record the president of the United States in the White House to expose the chaos consuming the administration and discuss recruiting cabinet members to invoke the 25th Amendment so they would remove President Trump, your duly elected president from office for, quote, being unfit. Now, this all allegedly took place during Rosenstein's second week on the job. This is right after President Trump fired Comey based on Rod Rosenstein's recommendation in part. And, by the way, under Article 2 of our Constitution, he didn't even have to like James Comey's shoes and he could have fired him for that. And according to "The Times", Rosenstein thought, quote, well, he might be able to persuade the Attorney General Jeff Sessions, General Kelly, then the secretary of homeland security, now the White House chief of staff, to mount an effort to invoke the 25th Amendment. Two weeks into the job, Rod Rosenstein wanted to wear a wire and secretly record a sitting president of the United States, invoke the 25th Amendment. In other words, a silent coup against his boss by him, McCabe, others, all against a duly elected president. We are experiencing tonight a massive constitutional crisis and, frankly, this is designed to set up the president. I'll explain what this is about in a minute. Now, tonight, Rod Rosenstein, he is publicly denying this report, calling the story inaccurate, factually inaccurate. He wrote, quote: I never pursued or authorized recording the president. Any suggestion that I have ever advocated for the removal of the president is absolutely false. Given the numerous sources in this story, "The New York Times" remains adamant in their reporting. Two of their sources, by the way, we know one is Andrew McCabe and another is Lisa Page, although, Lisa Page is not on the 25th Amendment side of this. And we do know McCabe is a known liar. But we have other sources tonight telling FOX News that Rod Rosenstein's remarks were made sarcastically. But "The New York Times", they are standing behind the story and the seriousness of Rod Rosenstein's remarks. Let's take a look at this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ADAM GOLDMAN, REPORTER, NEW YORK TIMES (via telephone): This wasn't a flippant remark and he was, in fact, very serious. And the circumstances in which it was described to me are very different now than what's being put out, I guess, by the government. But, you know, it's important that your listeners understand something, that as I was pursuing this story for a very long time people were reluctant to talk about it because of the gravity of the story, that there was concern that if it got out, that, you know, Rosenstein had wanted to actually wear a wire and suggested to Andy McCabe, the deputy director, the acting director at the time, wear a wire, that Rod might get fired. People were sincerely concerned about this, not because he made a flippant remark, because of the seriousness surrounding the remark. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So, Rod Rosenstein, well, "The New York Times" is standing by their story. Andrew McCabe is one of the sources. His lawyer admitted that today and he saying, a known liar now, that, in fact, said Rod meant what he said. And we're going to have a lot more information from "The New York Times" report throughout the hour tonight. Before appointing Mueller to lead the special counsel investigation, Rosenstein floated another candidate we find out from "The New York Times." His name is James M. Cole. Well, that's problematic because Cole, while he was a deputy attorney general under Obama, conflict enough, he was also the private lawyer to Sid "Vicious" Blumenthal. That's Clinton's personal political hit man. And as you can see, neither Rod Rosenstein, Andrew McCabe, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, James Comey, Bruce Ohr, is a friend of the president. That's why this country is in crisis tonight. Their bias is all obvious here. This has been corrupt from the beginning, before the election, after the election. They wanted to take down Donald Trump. Now, it's time tonight for the attorney general to now do his job. Mr. Sessions, this is your Department of Justice. Under no circumstances, I have a message for the president tonight, under zero circumstances should the president fire anybody. These actors tonight, -- and I have multiple sources confirming this, and more information coming -- they are hoping and praying that the president does just that. They're hoping he gets mad, that he gets sick and tired of it, and that they can turn this politically into their equivalent of a Friday night massacre. The president needs to know it is all a setup. He needs to know that regardless of whether he steps in or not, and I would argue he should definitely not. The deep state tonight is crumbling from within at this very hour. They are now turning against each other. It's the president's job and duty of course is to remove all enemies from within. But, of course, Democratic Senator Chucky Schumer is in meltdown mode. You would think they care about the truth. You think they would care about fixing and rigging and attempting to rig elections and lying to the American people and propagandizing the American people and misinforming the American people and having real Russian information bought and paid for by one party to destroy another candidate and that FISA court judges are all lied to. But Chucky doesn't care about that at all. All he cares about is friends in the deep state. And tonight, he released a state that proves just that. This story must not be used as a pretext for the corrupt purpose of firing the deputy attorney general, Rosenstein, in order to install an official who will allow the president to interfere with the special counsel's investigation. Generals Kelly, Mattis and numerous other White House and cabinet officials have been reported to say critical things of the president without being fired. Hey, Chuck, none of them have talked about literally trying to set up a president and tape-record a president and invoke the 25th Amendment, Chuck. Now, of course, we know what would happen if Rosenstein and others are fired by Jeff Sessions. Jeff Sessions actually has -- that's his department. Jeff Sessions, where are you tonight? Solicitor General Noel Francisco would likely take over Rod Rosenstein's Russia duties and he worked in the DOJ under President George W. Bush. He clerked for Antonin Scalia. More importantly, he doesn't have the baggage or the anti-Trump bias that so many others have had from the beginning. But with that said, I don't know at this hour who to trust anymore in the FBI or the DOJ. Well, I do, the rank and file. The people that do their jobs in the field offices every day, I trust them. Those that are upset about this, the most corrupt, massive abuse of power in this country's history, I believe in them. They are as upset, rightly so, as what we all are. And meanwhile, this story is now shining a new light on the president's decision Monday to declassify FISA documents, 302s, other important information related to the FBI, DOJ handling of this so-called Russia objective probe. Today, the president tweeted out, quote: I met with the DOJ concerning the declassification of various unredacted documents. They agreed to release them but stated in so doing, they have received negative impact on the Russia probe. Also, key allies, what allies? What countries? They called to ask not to release them. Therefore, the inspector general has been asked to review these documents on an expedited basis. I believe he will move quickly on this and hopefully other things which he is looking at, meaning FISA. In the end, I can still always declassify it if it proofs necessary. Speed is very important to me and to everyone. Other allies, there has been a lot of chatter. Do we have allied countries? We have Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure, against using wiretapping against American citizens? Is it possible some of their friends in other countries might be thinking tonight that they are going to be exposed? Doing the dirty work and sharing the information that they got that would otherwise be gotten illegally in this country with some of our deep state actors. It raises a lot of questions tonight. These documents the president requested Monday must be released, must be declassified immediately. This same routine has played out well over a year now, about two years. We have the DOJ, deep state actors have done everything in their power, including lie that this will impact sources and methods when it doesn't to prevent them from releasing the information that we, the American people, deserve to see. These actors know they will be exposed, their corruption, the serious misconduct, McCabe, Strzok, Page and perhaps even James Comey, himself. The DOJ has delayed, delayed, delayed the release of these important documents over again and again. They have defied congressional subpoenas, obstructed justice at this point, defied the oversight constitutional authority of Congress. The president cannot let this go on any longer, because as we wait, the deep state is winning. And they are trying to set up traps even for the president himself. These documents must be made available to you, the American people. Where is Spartacus, Cory Booker, when we need him? We deserve full transparency for the American people. No more delaying, no more hiding, no more lying, no more obstructing. You, we, the people, deserve to know what these top upper-level people in our government were doing to undermine the people's pick for president. The damming revelations today surrounding Rod Rosenstein -- well, it's not the only time the deep state has been caught trying to sabotage President Trump. Far from it. Let's look at this timeline we put together. Let's start in 2015. The FBI opening a criminal investigation into Hillary Clinton. We know she violated the law, committed multiple felonies, mishandling top secret, classified special access program information on her private e-mail server in a mom and pop shop bathroom. And in a very rare move, the FBI director, James Comey, he rips the case away from our honorable FBI field agents, the guys we trust. He took it in house, politicized it himself with, of course, the help of Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok and others. Then, they put the fix in. Despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, they end up exonerating Hillary Clinton. Oh, they were writing that exoneration in May of 2016. They never interviewed her or 17 other key witnesses until July. And then, remember, it was Strzok and Comey. They worked on the draft in May before the July exoneration. Well, they were changing it from, you know, the gross negligence legal term to the more innocuous just careless, just like Sandy Berger, puts documents in his pants, his socks, frankly, on his backside, walks out and says, I'm just being sloppy. Really? People put private documents in their pants and they are sloppy? Meanwhile, the very same time, the Clinton campaign along with the DNC funneling money through a law firm. Oh, I mean, it wasn't a legal expense? Then they hire Fusion GPS to do op research who hired an ex-foreign spy. I thought they weren't supposed to influence our elections, his name is Christopher Steele, and the wife, of course, of a high-ranking DOJ officials, Nellie Ohr, to put together a campaign op research document, a series of documents that became known as the dossier, all against Donald Trump, filled with salacious lies and rumors, never verified, never corroborated. None of it. Neither Steele himself said, I don't know if any of this is true, maybe 50/50, in an interrogatory in Great Britain. That dossier was spread throughout the highest levels of our federal government. All these deep state actors by Nellie Ohr's husband, who became the conduit for Christopher Steele, Bruce Ohr, the fourth highest ranking official at the DOJ. That dossier was leaked to the press. Why? To lie to you, the American people, and influence an election to help Hillary. This is kind of like what she did to Bernie. It was used as the basis of the FISA warrants against the Trump campaign associate, Carter Page, signed off on by multiple officials, including Comey, including McCabe, including Yates and Rod Rosenstein himself. And after the election, the dossier was then used again as the basis, the fundamental basis for what we now know to be Mueller's witch hunt or even brief Mueller deputy, Andrew Weissmann. He made his way right into special counsel Mueller's office, Andrew Weissmann, Mueller's pit ball. He got the contents of that dossier, right from Hillary, through steel, from Russia, with love, to Robert Mueller's office, all in an effort to take down the president you elected. All right. We have a lot more throughout the show tonight. But we have other top breaking news tonight. Now, for a week, the Republicans, rightly so, they have tried to accommodate in every way imaginable Judge Kavanaugh's accuser, Professor Christine Ford. Clearly, one of her liberal lawyers, Debra Katz, and Senator Dianne Feinstein are playing politics. And the sad thing is, this is such a serious accusations. It should be handled in a nonpartisan way. It should be pursued just for the sake of pursuing truth and justice. And as Susan Collins has said, and she is absolutely right, it's unfair what Dianne Feinstein and others have been doing. I have sources tonight telling me that Professor Ford's attorney keeps moving the bar all over the place. At this hour, no deal has been struck with Professor Ford's attorney to testify. Senator Grassley, finally, has had to extend yet again the deadline. Now, it's 10:00 p.m. tonight. And Senator Grassley released a statement earlier. This is what it reads. Quote: Despite the fact that the July 30th letter remains hidden, my committee has been investigating the allegations and has heard from multiple witnesses since Sunday. Ms. Katz has discussed Dr. Ford's allegations in numerous media interviews and said on TV Monday morning that Dr. Ford wants to share her account with the Senate Judiciary Committee. All right. It is Friday night. Nothing has been agreed to despite our extensive efforts to make testimony possible. I'm extending the deadline for response yet again to 10:00 this evening. I'm providing a notice of a vote to occur month in the event that Dr. Ford's attorney doesn't respond or Dr. Ford denies not to testify. In the event we can come to a reasonable resolution, as I have been seeking all week, then I will postpone the committee vote to accommodate her testimony. We can not continue to delay. Senator Grassley has been gracious, rightly so, in accommodating in multiple ways. If her lawyers keep moving the goalpost and don't give answers an keep making new demand and they don't show up, what are lawmakers to do? By the way, isn't it really unfair for the accuser to be heard literally after the accused? No. I think the accuser should have the right to respond to the accusations that are made. Senators Grassley and Graham said they will not concede that point. And also tonight, my sources are telling me that the conclusion of many Republican lawmakers is that Professor Ford's liberal attorney, this is not in any way, I want Professor Ford to be heard. I want her story told in a fair manner. She has been offered all sorts of opportunities, in private, in public. They will come to her. She doesn't have to ever go before a television camera. But her attorney has adopted a strategy. Obviously, it's called running out the clock. And, by the way, the Republicans see it for what it is, to blame the GOP for not making proper accommodations when they have done just opposite. It shouldn't surprise anyone that Republicans think this. After all, this lawyer, Debra Katz, is highly partisan, long-time Democratic activist, tens of thousands of dollars in donations, clearly has a political agenda. Her views on sexual assault and misconduct allegations have been inconsistent, to put it mildly. Here are a few examples of what I mean. She said about Paula Jones, quote: Her suit is very, very weak. She has alleged one incident in a hotel room that by her own testimony lasted 10 or 12 minutes. She suffered no repercussions in the work place. She then said of Jones accusations, clearly a one-time incident that took place in 10-12 minutes. She was not forced to have sex. She left of her own volition. The courts are finding that is not enough to create a sexually hostile work environment claim. Then, she defended creepy Senator Al Franken. Context is relevant. While he not do this as a member of a Senate, he did in a capacity as someone who was still functioning as an entertainer. Excuse me. Al Franken was a senator when this, in fact, occurred. That's issue one. Issue two, we are going to talk about what it is bill Clinton did to Paula Jones. He dropped his pants, exposed himself to a woman he didn't know, and said, kiss it. Now, Paula Jones won a settlement agreement of $850,000. But, the point here is that the lawyer for Professor Ford, well, clearly, she has a political agenda, inconsistent views on this topic. "The Daily Caller" today uncovered that back in 2017, this same lawyer, she vowed to resist -- get this -- President Trump. Take a look for yourself. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Finally, over the finish line, the new attorney general this morning grateful to the colleagues who fought for him. JEFF SESSIONS, ATTORNEY GENERAL: I can't express how appreciative I am for those of you who have stood by me during this difficult time. (CROWD CHANTING) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was a better feud to the very end. DEBRA KATZ, PROTESTER: We are going to fight back. We are going to resist. We will not be silenced. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That's her resisting? Now, why does this attorney keep moving the goalpost for an interview? On Monday, Katz said, Professor Ford will be willing to testify and do it publicly and under oath. Then, demands they start to change throughout the week, making it almost impossible for Professor Ford's allegation to be heard. She does deserve to be heard. And tonight, things have even gotten worse. Senator Feinstein, who has been delaying and obstructing, why hasn't Senator Feinstein turned over the full letter to Republican senators on the Judiciary Committee, like Grassley? Now, Feinstein knew about this allegation back from July, in September. Senator Feinstein never bothered to raise any of these allegations with Judge Kavanaugh privately or in public hearings, even though there were numerous opportunities for her to do so. I Instead, the Democrats, they have turned this into a political circus. We saw it at the hearings. They have rushed to convict Judge Kavanaugh without even a hearing, not hearing either side of their story. And Dianne Feinstein took it to the next level tonight. After all the accommodations offered by the Republicans and Charles Grassley and the president being accommodating on his end, saying he wants her to be heard. Well, it was entitled: Feinstein on Republican bullying of sexual assault survivor. Well, obviously, there is no point in her having a hearing. She has already decided who is guilty, who is believable and who is not. They are offering to speak with her. And listen what Democratic Senator Whitehouse had to say just yesterday. Listen to this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If the Democrats win back the House and/or the Senate, Democrats will investigate what happened, the charges that Professor Ford is laying out, even if that means investigating a Supreme Court justice at this time? SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D), RHODE ISLAND: I am confident of that. I think we'll also be investigating why the FBI stood down its background investigation when this came out in this particular background. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Another senator who has made up her mind is Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York. She said she believes Kavanaugh's accuser. She has made up her mind. Quote: Denying Dr. Ford an investigation is silencing her. No, the FBI, Senator, said it is not in their purview to have. There is no crime within their jurisdiction, forcing her -- get this -- forcing her into a sham hearing. Now, Senator Gillibrand made up her mind. She said it is silencing her, to offer a hearing and pushing Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation through. If you allow in every single accommodation private, not private, we'll go to you, you can come to us, moving the days and dates. The person doesn't want to talk. That was the right thing to do by the Republicans. Offering a platform to tell your story is not silencing somebody. And, unfortunately, that's s not all. Democrats are convicting Judge Kavanaugh before any side has been heard. Forget about due process. Forget about the presumption of innocence. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: The Senate shouldn't simply rely on hearing two conflicting accounts and decide -- well, we are okay with not knowing. We are okay with the fact that we might be putting someone who committed attempted rape on the Supreme Court of the United States. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: I believe her. Listen, first of all, anybody who comes forward at this point to be prepared to testify in the United States Senate against someone who is being nominated to one of the most powerful positions in the United States government, that takes an extraordinary amount of courage. SEN. MAIZE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: Not only do women like Dr. Ford who bravely comes forward, need to be heard but they need to be believed. They need to be believed. I just want to say to the men in this country: just shut up and step up. Do the right thing. SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: Let me just right at the outset, I believe Dr. Ford. I believe the survivor here. There's every reason to believe her. She has come forward courageously and bravely. SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: I believe her. I stand with her. And -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you hope she shows up on Monday? Do you hope that she testifies? GILLIBRAND: I don't think she should be bullied into this scenario, where it's a he said/she said. It's a sham hearing. And I don't think she should participate in it. SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY), MINORITY LEADER: I believe Professor Ford. I think she is credible. And I think when the investigation is finished and when she testifies and Judge Kavanaugh testifies, I think a majority of senators will find her credible and I don't think -- I never thought Kavanaugh should get appointed. (EN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All of these Democrats say they believe her. They have already made up their minds. Interestingly, it is the Republicans that are being fair and open and offering opportunities for both sides to be heard. Can you imagine if Republicans came out one after another, they believe Judge Kavanaugh? They would be eviscerated tonight. The double standard is so blatantly obvious. Where is all the outrage from the left about the allegations made against Democratic Congressman Keith Ellison? This past month in August, accused of his long- time girlfriend of repeated domestic and verbal abuse. This is the bottom line. What is happening right now is not fair to Professor Ford. It is not fair to Judge Kavanaugh. The allegations are serious. This shouldn't be about politics and rushing to judgment and no due process and no presumption of innocence. This should not be about hiding letters and lawyers not getting back to a Senate committee after so much accommodation. This should be about getting to the truth. This should be about justice. This should be about putting good people on the Supreme Court. This is too serious an allegation, too serious an issue to be playing politics. Now, the families of Judge Kavanaugh and Professor Ford, they are all receiving death threats, which needs to stop. Enough already. This is becoming a sick, twisted, ugly partisan, you know, one side cares about only one side, power. That's why in 46 days, this election matters on so many levels. Here with reaction to all of these breaking news, the author of the number one "New York Times" bestseller, "The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, FOX News investigative reporter, contributor, Sara Carter, the author of "The Deep State: How and Army of Bureaucrats Protected Barack Obama and is Working to Destroy Donald Trump," FOX News contributor, former Congressman, Jason Chaffetz. Let's start with the news with you, Sara. I have had multiple sources tonight telling me when all this information that the president called for is out, it will all be clear and apparent to everybody. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Absolutely. HANNITY: And what the left was hoping for with Rod Rosenstein is the president would jump in and they'd get a Friday night massacre and they flip it on the president. CARTER: Yes, what you are hearing is what I'm hearing as well, Sean. I think people need to put this into perspective. Let's go back to May 2017. Rod Rosenstein's letter to have Comey fired to the president. You know, Rod Rosenstein, everything that happened back then happened for a purpose. He sent that letter according to my sources. It goes right with "The New York Times" story. He was very adamant. He was on the president's side. And now we have McCabe. And remember, McCabe wrote the memos then. He didn't write them now. So I don't buy for one minute the Department of Justice's explanation - explanation that he was just joking around. I also believe that they are trying to trap the president. They are trying to corner him. But remember, McCabe is facing a grand jury. He is a liar and he has been caught lying and he leaked to the media. That's a fact. But he is facing the grand jury now. He doesn't want to be the only guy to go down. He wants to take everyone else with him. I think the president has no other choice here and the Department of Justice but to launch a full investigation according to my sources, a complete investigation and then make his decision after that investigation or if evidence arises that this is what Rod Rosenstein asked people to do, wiretap the president, or he, himself, would wiretap the president and try to push people towards removing the president from office citing the 25th Amendment. Then the president eventually needs to fire him. That absolutely must happen. HANNITY: But not the time, Congressman Chafettz. And by the way, both your book and Gregg's book have done so well because of the truth that it's in it. But the president on both these issues we're talking about tonight needs to stay out of it. Because they set a trap for him today. They wanted him to fire Rod Rosenstein. Now, Andrew McCabe and Lisa, Strzok have contemporaneous notes from this meeting we need to examine them. But it really shows the need for two things. One, what the president called for to be released needs to be released, not go through Michael Horowitz. And number two, we need a special counsel like yesterday or a year ago. CHAFFETZ: Yes. Absolutely, right, Sean. First of all, Attorney General Jeff Sessions is there in name only. He is absolutely worthless. And instead of running that department and agency he just, you know, goes around and give some few speeches. He is worthless there. I do believe in Michael Horowitz. He is the one that uncovered it and gave one of-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It took them 18 months. CHAFFETZ: Yes. No doubt. But he is the reason that we actually have a lot of these text messages. HANNITY: True. CHAFFETZ: At the same time, we absolutely need all of these documents to go to Congress. I don't buy into this delay. They are going to, you know, we are going to come back on the show a month from now and not going to be able to see all of this, but at the heart of this, Sean, a few months into the presidency, you have seven people, I believe it was seven, it may have six people, sitting around months after Donald Trump has taken the presidency and they're discussing what, how to take down Donald Trump. That's how serious this is. I wish that all of them would be wiped clean and get rid of all of them but the president-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. Let me ask all three of you, and then I'll go to Gregg and get his full comments. Hands up, yes or no, was this an attempted coup, first to stop the president from getting elected and then to destroy him by the upper echelons of the DOJ and FBI? I say yes. JARRETT: Yes. CHAFFETZ: Its got all of the markings of it, Sean. Its got all of the markings of it. But we -- I don't trust-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Sara? CHAFFETZ: But at the same time I don't totally trust the New York Times. (CROSSTALK) CARTER: Absolutely. HANNITY: But I'm saying based on everything we know about McCabe, Comey, Strzok, Page, Ohr, Steele? Gregg, we'll throw it to you. JARRETT: It is the equivalent of an attempted coup a plot to throw the Trump president, saboteurs within the Department of Justice and the FBI working furiously to undo the election results and frame Trump for colluding with Russia to win the election, even though they had no evidence at all. The only thing they had was a phony dossier they knew was fabricated and written by a liar and funded by Hillary Clinton's campaign. So, you know, Rod Rosenstein certainly deserves to be fired, even suggesting what to secretly record the president of the United States. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But the president needs to stay out of it. JARRETT: I didn't hear you. HANNITY: You disagree. The president -- it needs to be Jeff Sessions. The president, if he does it-- (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: I don't care. HANNITY: -- the deep state wants him to do it so they can bludgeon him. JARRETT: I don't care who fires him, whether it's Sessions or the president, it may not be politically expedient at this time. But he certainly deserves to be fired. And by the way, as a consequence of his actions, the special counsel investigation should be terminated because he has corrupted and tainted the integrity of it. HANNITY: That I agree with too. Sara? CARTER: Yes. Sean, this was a silent coup, this is what they call a bloodless coup. And they were trying to do it and they got caught. They didn't know how to do it. And everything is coming out now and we need an investigation, a special counsel to take over and find out the truth. HANNITY: Last word, Jason. CHAFFETZ: Find out everybody that was in that meeting and one at a time under oath bring them before Congress and make them explain what was going on there because it certainly has all the suspicions and all the markings. HANNITY: And release the documents. CHAFFETZ: Yes. JARRETT: Yes. HANNITY: Demand the documents. The people deserve to see them yesterday. CHAFFETZ: Yes. HANNITY: Thank you all. When we come back, our own Kristin Fisher has the latest on Kavanaugh and Rod Rosenstein. We get reaction tonight Dershowitz, Tammy Bruce. The great one speaks out as well straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. This is a Fox News alert. This Friday night, the A.P. now reporting that the lawyer for Professor Ford is requesting one extra day to consider the terms given to them by Senator Grassley. I am going to offer some unsolicited advice. Senator Grassley and Lindsey Graham and those on those committee, you have been very accommodating. You've extended every deadline. I would give Professor Ford's attorney one more day. Let them have it. One more day. For the very latest, we go to Kristin Fisher, she's in our Washington bureau tonight. Kristin? KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Well, Sean, this deadline has been moving all day long. It started with close of business and then it was pushed back three hours to just 25 minutes from now. And now, with just minutes closing on what Kavanaugh's accuser's legal team is calling an arbitrary deadline, they finally got back to Senate Republicans and ask for what you just reported, they ask an extra day. They, also, as I have said, they've called this an arbitrary Friday deadline. So, I just want to go through exactly what Senate Republicans were offering in regards to this hearing that was set to take place or that they want to take place on Wednesday. They want it to take place with a female attorney doing the questioning and they want Ford to testify first and then Kavanaugh. But Ford's legal team wants a Thursday hearing with no outside attorneys asking questions and they want Kavanaugh to go first. Democrats are blasting that offer from Republicans. Senator Blumenthal says, "Their arbitrary and irrational deadline is a rush to silence a survivor, it has no basis in law or fact or simple humanity. But Republicans remain confident that Judge Kavanaugh will still be confirmed. Listen to what Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said to conservatives at the values voter's summit just today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R), KENTUCKY: My friends, keep the faith. Don't get rattled by all of this. We're going to plow right through it and do our job. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: Now, the Senate judiciary chairman had said that if Ford's legal team had not gotten back to him by this 10 p.m. deadline, then they were going to go ahead and vote on Monday. Now, Ford's legal team has gotten back to him but it wasn't the kind of response that I'm sure he was hoping for. So it remains to be seen exactly how Senator Grassley is going to respond. Sean? HANNITY: All right. Kristin Fisher in Washington tonight. Thank you. With more reaction, the author of the bestselling book, "The Case Against Impeaching Trump," Harvard Law Professor, Alan Dershowitz, and Fox News contributor, Tammy Bruce. You know, I know that Senator Grassley, Tammy, has given every consideration, private, public, everyone is saying move the day from Monday to Wednesday, et cetera. I do believe that Judge Kavanaugh should go second to respond to his accusers. ALAN DERSHOWITZ, PROFESSOR, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL: Of course. HANNITY: But my advice to the Senate judiciary committee tonight is this. Give them the extra day. DERSHOWITZ: Sure. HANNITY: Twenty four hours, if that's what they are asking for, 10 o'clock tomorrow night. Fine. Give them another 24 hours. But this has to be the last time. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, look, I don't know what really the drama is, another 24 hours, if they need it, that's fine. She's known at least certainly, that this process has started all the way back in July. She has been in control of this timeline from the beginning. If this was handled properly when Senator Feinstein had this letter, we wouldn't be at these kinds of deadlines because this could have been addressed through the natural process. The request she made also would literally set up an actual kangaroo court, where you change the rules, the principals, the process of a court hearing or just a hearing in general when you are dealing with accusations like this. And clearly, it is absurd when you see those demands. It almost seemed as though they wanted them to be rejected so that they could say the committee didn't want to hear it. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I am told that is the Democratic strategy. DERSHOWITZ: Yes. HANNITY: And so many Democrats, professor, they have already said they believe her. DERSHOWITZ: Well, it's absurd-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's absurd for anybody to say at this point I believe her or I believe him or I don't believe her or I don't believe him. We haven't heard them. We haven't seen the evidence. You know, people aren't born with a sex-linked gene for honesty or dishonesty. Some women lie. Some women tell the truth. Some men lie. Some men tell the truth. The one thing there should be no compromise on, and every civil libertarian and every Democrat should demand she must go first. You know, the tool of the inquisition was to always call the accused first. Make him testify, make him lay out his whole case and only then tell him what the accusation is and let him face his accuser. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But professor, you know, probably it got to scare the living daylights that you agree with me as much as you do lately but I am a civil libertarian at heart. (CROSSTALK) DERSHOWITZ: Not on everything. Not on everything. HANNITY: I know. But this -- this is too serious to me. I do believe -- so I'm urging the Republicans to give the extra day-- (CROSSTALK) DERSHOWITZ: Absolutely. HANNITY: -- but all these Democrats have made up their mind. If any Republican had said, Professor Dershowitz, I believe him, you and I both know there would be a very different reaction in this country. DERSHOWITZ: And they've said it. They have said it when it comes to the newly elected attorney general, Keith Ellison. They are not opening up an investigation as to him and there is very credible evidence. Look, we can have one truth for Republicans an one truth for Democrats and one process for Republicans and one process for Democrats. We all have to pass the shoe on the other foot test. I ask myself, what if this were a liberal Democrat who were nominated by a liberal president. What would I be demanding? Exactly the same as what I'm demanding now. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Same here. DERSHOWITZ: Due process, civil liberties, the rule of law. BRUCE: If I could just add, that if people who are thinking that by giving this extra day or accommodating even more is going to change what the Democrats say after he is confirmed, they are wrong. No matter what happens, the rhetoric and the argument will the same, is that the GOP are misogynists and they're racists and it won't matter what you do. At this stage, they simply must do the right thing. A Huffington Post poll found that on the issue of credibility of the accuser, which is what I was afraid of, was that about 25 percent of women found her credible and 28 percent of men found her credible. So the majority, the vast majority of people aren't believing her because of this charade that has been unfolding in front of us. We have got to get on with the country's business. They've got to take that seriously because there is no appeasing the people who are behind this. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Last word, professor. DERSHOWITZ: But she has to be given a full opportunity to make her case. She has to be given a full opportunity also to have witnesses subpoenaed. Judge the other man, anybody else who is there, they have to be given the opportunity to testify as well. HANNITY: And especially all those people that have spoken out in favor of professor Kavanaugh knowing him in high school, in college and law school and the Bush administration, women that are close to him, colleagues that worked for him. (CROSSTALK) BRUCE: And professor Kavanaugh himself. He needs to be heard. He needs to be heard. HANNITY: Agree. DERSHOWITZ: And I think everybody benefits if you have real lawyers examining. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Listen, you both are fair. That's fair. Don't rush to judgment. Due process. DERSHOWITZ: Absolutely. HANNITY: Presumption of innocence. This is core to who we are as a country. BRUCE: Exactly. HANNITY: Thank you both. When we come back, Sebastian Gorka, Doug Schoen, much more on our breaking news night tonight, his Friday night on Hannity. HANNITY: All right, here with reaction to all of tonight's breaking news, Fox News contributor, Doug Schoen and author of the book "Why We Fight," Fox News national security strategist Dr. Sebastian Gorka. On the two issues we've got here tonight, Dr. Gorka, number one is, give her, give the professor another 24 hours. A lawyer obviously is inconsistent on the issue. But give her as much accommodation as you can. But this is, you can't do it forever. This will be the last time. Do you agree? SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: I think I do, Sean. I think there has to be a concrete limit. And there has to be a recognition that you can't overturn the constitutional rights that every American has, not just judges who are nominated to the highest court in the land. The idea that an accuser goes -- gets accused before-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: After the accused -- after the accused. GORKA: Yes. No, it's not happening. But I think-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They should not give in on it. I agree. He has a right to respond to his accuser. (CROSSTALK) GORKA: But then -- right. I mean, that's the basis of our law. That you have the right to respond to that person who accuses you and to know their name and to respond to them in real time. But after that, the theatrics have to end. Because I agree with Tammy, nothing is going to change, whatever the outcome is nothing is going to change. This is just a ploy, this is a tactic. It is a very clever one. The idea that you accuse anybody of a potential crime without giving the date or the location means it's almost impossible for the accused to refute that, because you can't -- you can't actually substantiate that. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We don't even know the year, Dr. Gorka. GORKA: Right. HANNITY: We don't know the year. GORKA: How do you build an alibi? You can't. So, at the end of the day you listen to the accused, the person who has been accused gets to address that accusation but then it ends and we move forward. HANNITY: All right. Doug Schoen? DOUG SCHOEN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. I must tell you, Sean, I would give Dr. Ford more than a day or two simply because-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: She is asking for one more day. They now have asked and they've move now the deadline repeatedly. (CROSSTALK) SCHOEN: Sean, if I could finish -- I'm trying to help you. HANNITY: They have accommodated her. SCHOEN: Trust me. The Republicans are already taking on water in the polls. If there is not more than effort to hear Dr. Ford and it's nomination is pushed through without hearing her, the Republicans will lose. For our politics and our country, I would give her until Monday. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They ask for another day. SCHOEN: But trust me, it will benefit the cause you believe in. HANNITY: They also -- and look, to their credit, I think they have handled it perfectly. We see a very different political view for the attorney for Professor Ford, number one. All right. Putting that aside. Especially with Paula Jones and Al Franken. What did you make of the New York Times blockbuster tonight about Rod Rosenstein and taping the president? SCHOEN: If I can start on this one. Dr. Gorka, I apologize. But I'm a Democrat but I'm a trained lawyer. This is outrageous. I don't see how we can continue to supervise the Mueller investigation, which I do think should finish but the only way it can finish fairly is with him out of the picture recuse or fired and I really think we need to look at this Justice Department. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But there are more justice upon him, Dr. Gorka, last word? GORKA: I always want to ask the first question cui bono. Who does this profit? The New York Times, why are they burning Rod Rosenstein right now? Mark Levin may be right. This may be a political trap for the president. But Doug is also correct. This guy is so conflicted from the get-go, this is the man who've signed the FISA warrants. SCHOEN: Correct. GORKA: This is the man who has escorted his best friend, escorted Mueller to the interview with the president that he failed when he wanted the FBI-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: My last point though, is all of this is going to be exposed very expeditiously. Release the documents and get a special counsel. GORKA: Yes. HANNITY: A new one. GORKA: Yes. SCHOEN: We need to find out the truth will out, Sean. HANNITY: The truth is right there. I can taste it. All right. Thank you both. SCHOEN: Thank you. HANNITY: When we come back, the great one Mark Levin explains why he thinks the Democratic Party has hijacked the judicial nomination process. You don't want to miss that, next. HANNITY: You have got to watch the great one, Mark Levin, this Sunday. (AUDIO GAP) Democratic obstruction of the entire judicial process. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARK LEVIN, FOX NEWS HOST: The Democrat Party has hijacked the judicial nomination process over the last 30 years. That their left wing groups have hijacked the judicial nomination process from the American people. And they may levee justice through here and there, who is also nominated by a Republican. But the fact to the matter is, they are going to crush anybody who they believe might change the balance of power. What are we talking about here? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Mark, Sunday night. We're back here on Monday. Have a great -- Load-Date: September 22, 2018 End of Document A "New York Times" Report Claiming Rod Rosenstein Suggested Secretly Recording Trump and Invoked the 25th Amendment; Trump Backed Out of Declassifying Russia Probe Documents; Brett Kavanaugh's Accuser to Testify at the Senate but Her Lawyer Demands an Extension and Under Fair Terms; Halloween Costume Based on Characters from "The Handmaid's Tale" Draws Controversy; President Trump Urges Supporters to Vote in Midterms; Congressman Keith Ellison's Ex-Girlfriend Release Medical Document to Support Allegations of Abuse Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 21, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7145 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Kristin Fisher, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Corey Lewandowski, Lee Smith, Kendall Coffey, John Yoo, David Katz, John Lauro, John Yoo, David Katz, Will Jawando Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, mark Sunday night. We are back here Monday. Have a great -- LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: I am Laura Ingraham and this is the THE INGRAHAM ANGLE on an extraordinary news night this Friday night. A shocking report from "The New York Times" about deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein working to drive the president from office. And breaking news at this hour, Christine Ford, the Kavanaugh accuser, has missed yet another deadline set by the judiciary committee. Ford's attorneys were to respond to the committee tonight by 10:00 p.m. to confirm her appearance before them. Instead, she and her attorneys are asking for more time. We are going to get into all the details. And the Hollywood crowd steps into the Kavanaugh confirmation because that's what they're really good at. Also, a new Halloween costume controversy. Don't you love this, identity politics gone totally crazy. It is all on "Friday Follies" with Raymond Arroyo. But first, our top story, an absolute jaw dropper late this afternoon, a report from "The New York Times." It lays out that in the spring of 2017, deputy A.G. Rod Rosenstein suggested secretly recording President Trump and discussed invoking the 25th amendment to throw the president out of office. Now, Rosenstein, as you would expect, is forcefully denying that this ever happened. Separately, a Fox News source, said to be in the same room as this conversation, is claiming that Rosenstein's comments were just sarcastic. They weren't serious. Does anyone believe that tonight? "Washington Post" is also reporting that, but let's take a trip, shall we, down Rosenstein memory lane. Now, this is the same guy who responded like this to demands from Congress to produce documents in that Russia probe. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROD ROSENSTEIN, DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL: The Department of Justice is not going to be extorted. We are going to do what's required by the rule of law. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So congressional oversight and demands for accountability and transparency are extortion? That somehow runs counter to the rule of law. Got it, Rod. His apparent contempt for oversight and lawmakers doesn't stop there. Here he is in front of the House Judiciary Committee just a few months ago. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROSENSTEIN: I am deputy attorney general of the United States, OK. I'm not the person doing the redacting. I'm responsible for responding to your concerns as I have. REP. MATT GAETZ (R), FLORIDA: Did you read the FISA application before you signed it? ROSENSTEIN: I'm not going to comment about any FISA application. GAETZ: So you won't say to this committee whether or not you even read the document you signed that authorized spying on people associated with the Trump campaign? ROSENSTEIN: I -- (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, I love the trailing off there, perfect for a Friday night. And let's not forget that Rosenstein even threatened to subpoena e-mails, phone records and other documents from lawmakers and staff on the House Intel Committee. They did that earlier this year. Now, let's be clear, if "The New York Times" reporting is accurate, the president tonight should seriously consider whether Rod Rosenstein should remain on the job. The White House should be devoting every resource it can to determining the veracity of this report. We just cannot have this plotting at the highest levels of the Justice Department against the chief executive of this executive branch. Joining us now for reaction is former Trump campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, Lee Smith from RealClear Investigations and former U.S. attorney, Kendall Coffey. Let's go right to you, Lee. You have been covering Rod Rosenstein for, you know, I guess a year and a half now, since he initially got this job as deputy attorney general. Tonight, I just want to play for you -- this is a short montage of a variety of pundits claiming per "the Washington Post" that this conversation about wearing a wire and getting other people to wear a wire, this is all just a joke. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If the words were said, it seems more likely they were said in some sort of sarcastic or exasperated way rather than as a serious plan to actually wire up and go into do this. This does not give any grounds -- I really mean this -- any grounds at all in terms of any action of Rosenstein's that justifies firing him. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It makes sense to me that maybe he could have made a crack about this. (END VIDEO CLIP) LEE SMITH, REALCLEAR INVESTIGATIONS: Yes. I mean, I think it's important to see the Rosenstein -- the story that Rosenstein and the "Times" and in the "Post." These are both part of the declassification issue. They need to be seen in the context that they -- INGRAHAM: How so? Explain that. SMITH: OK, we have seen since Monday when the president asked, when the president said he was going to declassify documents. Over the last week, "The New York Times," ABC News, a number of publications have had stories blocking -- trying to block the declassification. They had been sourced to former and current U.S. Officials. I see this as part of the same thing. The "Times" stories apparently sourced to Andy McCabe. INGRAHAM: Where he said he didn't talk. He said -- his people are saying they didn't talk to "The Times" on this. SMITH: And the lawyers statement looks to me like a non-denial on twitter. INGRAHAM: OK. SMITH: I think what it looks like is that McCabe or someone close to McCabe is threatening Rosenstein saying, hey, I've got a lot of dirty stuff on you as well. If these things aren't declassified, you are going down with me. Unbeknownst to Andrew McCabe, it appears, according to my sources, that sometime between last night and this morning, Rod Rosenstein went in and talked to President Trump and convinced him to hold off on declassifying the documents. Kick them instead over to the inspector general. INGRAHAM: What is that going to do? The Inspector General, how does that help the president? SMITH: Exactly. It does not help the president. The purpose was to delay. But it was Rosenstein apparently who convinced Trump to do it. Unbeknownst to McCabe, the (inaudible) McCabe he had no idea. Presumably, "The Times" story was in the works for several days. The story drops a couple of hours after Trump tweets that the documents are going to the I.G. and you can imagine Rosenstein's horror. McCabe has blown this beautiful plan I had to get us both in the clear. I think that's what happened. Rosenstein's effort to cover, again, "The Post" story appears sourced to him. And the idea is we have to cover this up. I was telling a joke. Of course I wouldn't do such a thing. Andy McCabe didn't get my joke. INGRAHAM: It's not funny. This is what I inaudible). If it is a joke, and Corey, you can chime in here, he must have a really lame sense of humor because a joke isn't, hey, let's wear a wire. I'll wear a wire or someone else, one of you can, and then we will get someone to invoke the 25th amendment. Maybe I can get Sessions. How is that funny? There is no tee-hee giggle giggle in any of that. Corey? I think he is right. I think Lee is right. This is all about the declassification. Trump backtracked for some reason and I think that was a big gift to Rosenstein because he is worried about that FISA application and the fact that exculpatory information was not put in that FISA application to monitor Carter Page, Corey. COREY LEWANDOWSKI, FOREM TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Well, you are exactly right, and everybody has to remember that that was the third renewal of the application. There were four actual applications. The first application was denied by the FISA court. Rod Rosenstein signed this and when the president made the announcement that he was going to declassify Bruce Ohr's 302, that was going to reveal that Nellie Ohr, Bruce's wife, was talking to Christopher Steel, that the Justice Department knew about this and that I'm sure Rod Rosenstein at the Justice Department was aware of what Bruce Ohr was doing because he was his supervisor at some level, that all would have come out very clearly. And he was so afraid that declassification was going to expose him for what he is, which is part of the deep state. This collusion never existed. It has been a fake dossier from the beginning. And look, we have done extensive research on this now. We have seen what Rod Rosenstein is really about. Whether it's Rod Rosenstein. He covered up for Peter Strzok, for Lisa Page, for Andy McCabe, for Jim Comey. He is also the individual, and you remember this, who recommended Bob Mueller become the head of the FBI when Jim Comey was fired. And then the next day, he personally appointed Bob Mueller as the special counsel to investigate this president. INGRAHAM: Tonight, the president briefly referenced this issue with the secret recording. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We have great people in the Department of Justice. We have great people. These are people I really believe, you take a poll. I got to be at 95 percent, but you had some real bad ones. You are seeing what has happened at the FBI. They are all gone but there is a lingering stench and we are going to get rid of that too. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Kendall, a lingering stench. Your thoughts there? Who is he preferring to, please tell? KENDALL COFFEY, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: Obviously, he is concerned about Rod Rosenstein. I think he should be. I don't think we can make "The New York Times" the judge and jury of Rosenstein's fate. But what the challenge is to find a very accelerated framework for getting to the bottom of this. And I don't think the president needs to for example, ask the Justice Department to investigate itself. I think he has the power and perhaps should go ahead and put together an investigative mechanism perhaps relying in part on the White House counsel's office so that they can get access, redacted, blacked out in certain places or not, to whatever these McCabe memos are. And at some point, to bring Rod Rosenstein into the office, look him in the eye. This president has famously done with a lot of hired and fired people, look in the eye and see if he can get adequate explanation for this because if it is true, if the way it is being presented in "The New York Times" is true, it is something very, very troubling that can't be continuing. INGRAHAM: Well, apparently, according to the report, I am going to read some of it. I think it's important that I read some of the "New York Times" reporting. But apparently, the gist of it is Rosenstein was really ticked off that even though he wrote that letter or memo justifying the firing of Comey, giving a justification with the firing of Comey, he was mad that then the president relied on it when he was asked about it. So, he both wrote it -- I guess that's the suggestion of the president or the (inaudible) of the -- then he was mad the president relied on it. And that just torqued him off to know him. This is the "New York Times" reporting. I want all three of you to listen to this. "Rosenstein raised the idea of wearing a recording device or wire, as he put it, to secretly tape the president when he visited the White House. One participant asked whether Rosenstein was serious, and he replied animatedly that he was." Now, it goes on to say, "It is not clear how determined he was about seeing them through though he did tell McCabe that he might be able to persuade Attorney General Jeff Sessions and John Kelly about the 25th amendment, then the Secretary of Homeland Security and now the White House chief of staff to mount an effort to invoke the 25th." And third point, "According to others who described his comment, Rosenstein not only confirmed that he was serious about the idea but also followed up by suggesting that other FBI official who were interviewing to be the bureau's director could also secretly record Trump." This was around the time of course where after he fired Comey, he was looking at Wray, Rosenstein's name had been raised for this and a few others including a former Obama person. But he wanted, according to this report, there is no humor in this. When he says it's humor, it's ridiculous -- I'm sorry. Just a woman's intuition, but it's ridiculous. No humor in this. Now Lee, I want to play this for you because the Democrats tonight are saying this is just the pretext Trump needs to fire Rosenstein. This is what Leon Panetta said tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LEON PANETTA, FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF: He has got to think very carefully about the implications of taking action here, because if he does this, it raises concerns about the Mueller investigation. It raises concerns about the possibility of obstruction. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK. Why would it be obstruction of justice? The Mueller investigation goes on. SMITH: I mean, I think the whole thing has it exactly opposite. I mean, it was Rosenstein who appointed him. I think the interesting thing and revelatory thing about these two stories is it exposes a lot of people, a lot of wrong doers at the FBI and DOJ. They are turning on each other like rats. I hope that the president sees that before he makes decisions. And I'll say that I think the important thing, the really vital thing is declassifying these documents so that we can all understand what the bad guys at the DOJ and the FBI were doing as these two articles give some sort of indication there is more in those documents we can be sure of. We would like to see them. INGRAHAM: And Corey, it is true, is it not, that the president can reverse his reversal at any moment? Now, for now, kicking it over to the inspector general, which again, has no subpoena power. I mean, Horowitz is a good guy but it is not going to get us anywhere. He can reverse his decision at any moment because right now, it seems to me that the Bruce Ohr 302, those are the interview memos that he wrote, the FISA applications and other text messages are critical to be released unredacted except for any sources of the messages which there apparently aren't any. But Corey, the president has that ability to do that. He has to override Rosenstein to do it. LEWANDOWSKI: Well, that's right, but you have to remember, Laura, when he said he was going to redact, there was only certain pages of the FISA application so there is no concern from a national security perspective. I think it's pages 10 through 12 and then 14 others pages there. So it wasn't the entire application. So that's perfectly fine. But you also have to remember, Andrew McCabe has been referred by the I.G. for criminal referral. That referral is (inaudible) Department of Justice. My guess is Rod Rosenstein is the one who is deciding whether or not Andrew McCabe is going to be prosecuted for lying under oath to the FBI on three separate occasions, particularly when he was the acting director of the FBI after Jim Comey was fired. So look, these guys ran this tight little (inaudible) that they never thought anyone was ever going to get caught between Jim Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, you know, Rod Rosenstein, these guys did things. And then you throw in Clapper and Brennan. And you've got the making of a story that nobody could actually believe that these nine or 10 individuals have tried from day one to take down a duly elected president. Not only are they a deep state. They are an enemy of the people. INGRAHAM: Kendall, your reaction. This such has been such a wild day of news, both on Kavanaugh, which we're going to get to in a moment and on this story. But I don't see how this continues with this white hot tension between the president and the Justice Department. Not about even Mueller at this point. This is just about the running of the department and just basic decisions about redacting documents or not redacting or classifying or declassifying. I know it is related to Mueller, but I don't see how it is a sustainable situation with Rosenstein and I know other people would say also with Sessions, but with Rosenstein, I think it is a bad, bad relationship. COFFEY: Yes. It has got to be incredibly uncomfortable and increasingly less productive for the Department of Justice. But I still think there needs to be a thoughtful, very, very fast inquiry. It doesn't have to be formally structured, but the president needs to get to the bottom of this. We can't rely on newspaper stories in terms of making judgments about one of the most powerful positions in the United States government. But on the other hand, precisely because the deputy attorney general's position is so powerful, this needs to be resolved as you say and resolved quickly. INGRAHAM: All right, gentlemen, thank you so much. Terrific segment. Christine Blasey Ford's lawyer is out with a new response over a hearing with the Senate Judiciary Committee. The details broke late tonight. And we will bring them to you after this. INGRAHAM: Breaking news and just in the last hour, Christine Blasey Ford's attorney making an 11th hour desperation play with the Senate Judiciary Committee. Just moments ago, she asked for yet another day for Dr. Ford to consider the committees offer for her to testify this coming Wednesday. The response coming in just before 10:00 p.m. eastern deadline tonight. Joining us now with reaction is John Yoo, former general counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee and former U.S. attorney David Katz is with us along with former federal prosecutor, John Lauro. Let's start with John Lauro. John, for a lot of us who have been watching this over the last few days, we have been concerned about moving the goalpost. JOHN LAURO, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: Yes. INGRAHAM: I believe the testimony was supposed to be on Monday, not Wednesday. She was supposed to respond about appearing on Monday. I think they are negotiating about Wednesday. But nevertheless, the goalpost keeps moving. It is a smart lawyer I think representing this accuser because she is pushing it to the last minute to give her client as much time, leeway as she can. But at what point does the committee's patience run thin here? LAURO: I think they are just about there. She has to either put up or shut up. How much preparation time does she need to tell the truth? That's the question. I mean, she has been dealing with lawyers for weeks, if not months now. It is time for her to face the music. She has made a very serious accusation. Now, the moment of truth comes. She has to face questioning. She has to be asked the tough questions and she can't escape it. If she refuses to testify, then the bottom line is that he is going to be confirmed and this thing is over. But there is a legal expression for what her lawyer is doing, and that's jerking around. You know, every time they reach a point where there is an agreement, all of the sudden, you know, as you say, the goalpost move and that's just inappropriate. INGRAHAM: David, I know there are very strong feelings about this case on both sides. A lot of Democrats think that she wouldn't come forward unless this happened. And even though she doesn't remember key details, that's OK. If this has to go on another two or three weeks, so be it. But it is interesting to note how this is proceeding as a legal matter at the same time because even though it's not a legal setting in a courtroom, one would think that making a demand that you have to speak after Brett Kavanaugh is a little rich, don't you think, at this point, since she is the one making the accusation? DAVID KATZ, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: Well, it is not a court of law but it certainly makes sense that the accusation has to come first and that the person being accused gets to hear exactly what the accusation is and then respond to it. Some of her other demand I do think makes some sense but, you know, not having all the cameras, not having all of these things, but you know, high officials are used to, but she is not used to that. And she is just going to tell her side of the story. And I kind of agree with, I guess it's Kellyanne Conway who said that, you know, she should be accommodated and giving her one more day is accommodating her. She shouldn't be attacked. And I think Republicans would have a (inaudible) victory wouldn't they. If they ended up losing the House and Senate because they mistreated her instead of giving her one more day and hearing everyone side of the story. Of course, I think they should also hear Mark Judge's side of the story because, you know, when you are a prosecutor, as I was, you always say, you know, there is one more witness they could have called. Why didn't they call him? The defense has the power of subpoena, let them call Mark Judge if Mark Judge is so important. But you know here, the Democrats don't have the power to call Mark Judge. The Democrats don't have the power to call him. INGRAHAM: Actually, David, that's not true. What the Democrats could have done which -- and John Yoo, you can react to this. The Democrats could have done, they could have gone out and done their own investigation. They could have interviewed Mark Judge. They could have interviewed Patrick Smithe. They could have gotten, actually, quite a bit gone in the last 72, 96 hours or so. But instead, what the Democrats are doing is going on TV talking about how Kavanaugh is a sexual predator. Someone that I have known for 28 years. So John, I know you have known him for a long time. Your reaction to this latest demand by the accuser's legal team? JOHN YOO, FORMER GENERAL COUNSEL, SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE: Laura, you actually put your finger on it when you said this isn't actually a courtroom. This is not a criminal trial. This is the Senate performing its constitutional job to give advice and consent. It is a political process and a legal process, but it is not a criminal trial. The Senate doesn't need the FBI to conduct a criminal investigation. As you say, Laura, each side has committee staff. They can go out and interview people. They can interview them under oath. I think that's the most important thing that has to happen, is the stories have to be gotten under oath, under pain of perjury from both Judge Kavanaugh and from Dr. Ford. The timing is actually important. The sooner, the better because as time goes on, people could adjust their stories and change them in response to what they are hearing in the public. I'm worried about that. I think actually the committee is right to try to freeze the stories in place as soon as possible so that people can't start changing their stories. That would be worse than moving the goalpost. Already, we have lost that. INGRAHAM: Right. Well the Republicans did get both Judge and Patrick Smythe, they did interview them and they did sign declarations, which were signed under penalty of felony, correct? So that was done. Democrats could have taken part in the questioning. They decided not to. And going back to what David Katz said, you got to be more accommodating to the accuser. I think the president was right, let her speak, but to say that the Senate wasn't accommodating, they could have interviewed her at home in California. They said they would. Grassley said he would do it behind closed doors, in public, would be questioned by an outside counsel, which I thought, because it is all these white men up there. It would have been better to have an outside counsel, especially a woman, ask the question. Now, they don't want that. So, it seems like they have been quite accommodating except on, well, we are not going to do it whenever you want to do it, because you don't get to dictate terms. John, I want you to listen, and all of you to part of the letter that was released, again, just about an hour ago from the Kavanaugh accuser's attorney. "The imposition of aggressive and artificial deadlines regarding the dates and conditions of any hearings has created tremendous and unwarranted anxiety and stress on Dr. Ford. Your cavalier treatment of a sexual assault survivor who has been doing her best to cooperate with the committee is completely inappropriate." John Lauro, cavalier treatment of a sexual assault survivor seems more to me like a political statement than it does to be from a lawyer who wants to actually make some headway on these negotiations. LAURO: It is all about politics. If she was serious about having her client testify, she would have made that decision certainly by now to put her before the public. Let me just say one thing. She is going to be treated with kid gloves. Under no circumstances, is she going to be abused or treated disrespectfully. That would be counterintuitive to what the Republican majority wants to do. So the reality is they have bent over backwards to have her come in under appropriate circumstances. Let's remember one thing. An accuser does not get to call the shots. This is a process with deadlines. She has decided to come forward and now she has to testify truthfully and honestly and face the music. INGRAHAM: David. KATZ: You know I was a prosecutor. I have also defended people in the same situation as Judge Kavanaugh who are faced with charges that seem absolutely unbelievable and they are totally denied by my clients and I have gotten not guilty. And there are rules of procedure in court. The rules are less clear in the Senate. My point is that the Republicans and the committee should not be seen as not giving her a fair shot, as not hearing her story, as not understanding that this is a very unreported crime as Senator Collins has pointed out. And President Trump should treat her with respect at all times, including in his tweets. And the Republicans for their own sake, should treat her with respect. And all the women in this situation, a aman in this situation. They don't come forward all the time. Sometimes it is a long time before they make these allegations. Everybody can understand that. And as I say, it's a (inaudible) victory if they lose the House and the Senate by mistreating her or being cavalier with her. INGRAHAM: What about the respect to Brett Kavanaugh? KATZ: And I don't think she is after so much. INGRAHAM: No one is being cavalier. They've already put out -- come on, David. KATZ: Laura, I don't think she has asked for so much. She has asked for one more day. INGRAHAM: David, the vote was supposed to be yesterday. KATZ: She's asked for one more day. INGRAHAM: The vote was supposed to be yesterday. Feinstein, John Yoo, had the letter in July. The Democrat, Randy Sideman, who was already plotting about how to derail Kavanaugh, the same person who is now advising the legal team on overall, you know, process and P.R. This has turned into a political cudgel to be used both against Kavanaugh, the Republicans, Donald Trump, all the way to the mid-term election. That might sound political, but I have been in Washington for 30 years. And Brett Kavanaugh is getting no respect in my view, in this process. He is not being respected too well himself, John YOO: Well, I agree with you. Not only do we show respect for Dr. Ford. We also have to show respect not just to Judge Kavanaugh, we need to show respect for the senate. What's going on here I think is that the Senate has been manipulated, that these charges were held back until the very last minute, even after the hearings were over. And so what the Senate has to do is to make sure it does its constitutional job. This is not about a form for airing grievances. The Senate has to find out the truth. There is no forensic evidence anymore. The only thing that is left is the witness's testimony. The senators have to put them under oath, and while being respectful. We have found in our legal system the best way to get the truth is to subject both witnesses to questioning and cross- examination. I don't think that anyone should be treated with kid gloves or treated differently. We ask this of people in cases every day in courtrooms around the country in these kinds of cases. I don't think we should expect any less, and give respect to Kavanaugh and to Dr. Ford, but show them respect by expecting them to tell the truth under oath and be subject and willing to answer questions of cross- examination. INGRAHAM: Right. And we don't change the cameras or the lighting. There is only one camera angle. What is that? If you are going to launch that kind of allegation against someone this late in the game, 36 years later, then come along and say, oh no, but I don't want a camera and a woman can't ask the questions. To me, this is -- I don't know. I don't like the feel of any of that. DAVID KATZ, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: Laura, we have to respect victims, too. We have to respect alleged victims. INGRAHAM: OK, guys, I'm sorry. I'm going on, but when I heard the camera thing, I thought everybody goes up before that committee has to be on the camera. KATZ: The Senate agreed to that, Laura. Laura, the Senate agreed to that. INGRAHAM: Did I say they didn't? I thought it was really, really goofy. You look silly and goofy, it sets a terrible precedent. I don't like that precedent of having to change the process so late in the game. KATZ: She is a victim. She's a victim. She's not used to that. She's not used to that. INGRAHAM: There are a lot of victims. A lot of us aren't used to this, because it is so late in the game. Guys, when we return, which Halloween costume is already offending the P.C. crowd? Hollywood steps in to attack Brett Kavanaugh, and a lot more. Raymond Arroyo next. INGRAHAM: It's Friday, and it means it is time for -- (MUSIC) INGRAHAM: First up in tonight's edition, a Halloween costume is causing outrage. To tell us about it, we are joined by "New York Times" bestselling author of the forthcoming "Will Wilder, The Amulet of Power," FOX News contributor, Raymond Arroyo. Raymond, what costume is driving the P.C. crowd crazy now? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: You and everyone will remember, at the Kavanaugh hearing, there were women that dressed up in the costumes from "Handmaid's Tale," the Hulu series. These were women who were forced into surrogacy in the process of this miniseries. Well, a website called Yandy, which specializes in lingerie, launched a brand new string of Halloween costumes, including this one, which depicted the costumes of "The Handmaid's Tale." Women took to Twitter and said, wait a minute, rape is not funny, rape victims are not funny. And they said this must be taken down, the fictional charactering being lampooned and sexualized in this way was outrageous. So the company took it down. In a statement, they said, "Over the last few hours it has become obvious that the Yandy Brave Red Maiden costume is being seen as a symbol of women's oppression rather than an expression of women's empowerment. So they took it down. Laura, I then went to the Yandy website and looked at some of their other offerings just to see what was there. INGRAHAM: Because you wanted to buy something for Rebecca. ARROYO: I don't. Look what I found, bad habit nun costume. Then I found this one, the religious sister costume. INGRAHAM: That's like a Britney Spears -- ARROYO: Then the sexy school girl uniform, and the study date school girl. This is only a sampling. I can't show you the other. INGRAHAM: Who is studying that? ARROYO: There is a lot to study there. Here is the problem. It is OK to sexualize young girls, nuns, but fictional characters are off limits? This is where the culture is sending one message, we have to respect women, not objectify them, which is the right message, and on the other hand giving them only costumes during this season that sexualizes and objectifies them, including being religiously insensitive as you saw. INGRAHAM: I can't believe you can't even wear Indian and pilgrim costumes at Thanksgiving. That's like a hate crime on a college campus. ARROYO: They have the sexy Native Americans. INGRAHAM: As long as it's sexy. INGRAHAM: Naughty, naughty Native American. As you know, Laura, Hollywood is all in on the midterm fight and the Kavanaugh battle. Earlier this week Hollywood A-listers like Julianne Moore, America Ferrera, and others, recorded a homemade video supporting the Kavanaugh accuser. They thanked her for coming forward. Now Jesus Christ Superstar himself, John Legend, has emerged with his own home video. He's apparently now a constitutional scholar. Look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN LEGEND, SINGER AND SONGWRITER: Who becomes the next Supreme Court justice is the decision of a lifetime, your lifetime. Brett Kavanaugh's troubling views on the issues that matter most and his rushed confirmation process make him unfit for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. This fall, your senators will vote on Kavanaugh. How they vote will impact you for a lifetime. Tell them to vote no on Kavanaugh. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: His wife is a beautiful I think supermodel. But she has tweeted the nastiest stuff about the president, nasty, nasty. That's fine. ARROYO: They are entitled to their opinion. Here is my problem, their opinion is only as valid as anybody else's. They are very talented people. We don't need their constitutional views. Unless you're Thurgood Marshall or something, we don't want to hear from you. Just sing nice songs, be happy. INGRAHAM: You're going to say shut up and sing. ARROYO: I'm not going to say shut up and anything, but where is the Hollywood activism on behalf of people like Keith Ellison's accuser, the Clinton accusers? We need those voices too. This is bothersome that it is all one-sided and not spread out. Use your celebrity across the board. Ben and Jerry's is now also involved in these midterms. They have appointed seven new candidates that they picked out at random, left-leaning candidates, and they want people to pick a flavor that most captures the essence of those candidates. I looked at not only them but their competitors. I think what we are dealing with rocky road, cotton candy policies. I think you've got cuckoos and cream in most cases, a lot of fruitcake, mud pie, and a Ben and Jerry's flavor that already exists when you look at some of these candidates, chubby hubby. INGRAHAM: Yes, just a few. ARROYO: The Me Too movement has spurred so many things and created so many things. It's also birthed a new phenomenon called modern masculinity. Watch this. It's being marketed to millennials. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It takes one man's courage to start a chain reaction is what it takes. So we sit here, somebody is really feeling something, and he has the balls to stand up and say, I'm really sad right now. And then you check and you watch the rest of the group as that man says that and they just - (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: What do you think? These are retreats. These guys stand around and emote. INGRAHAM: This is what I say. Hold me back. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: That is hot. Sexy. ARROYO: You know what the problem with this is? Unlike religious retreats where it is about your relationship with God, your relationship with others, this is all about my feelings. They gaze into each other's eyes, these men. INGRAHAM: I love you, bro. ARROYO: While they talk about body image and sexuality. You know what they need? INGRAHAM: Brokeback retreat. ARROYO: They need lessons in how to be dads, how to fulfill the duties of manhood. That will teach you masculinity more than gazing at your bro and wondering how he thinks my pecs are today. This is what happens when you have Silicon Valley come up with retreats for men? INGRAHAM: I thought you said Silicone Valley. It's going to be like the calf implants. ARROYO: There is silicone manhood, by the way. INGRAHAM: Posterior implants. ARROYO: You have many more segments. Thank you. INGRAHAM: All right, the battle over Brett Kavanaugh is already turning the midterms on his head. What does it mean for the president's agenda, though? Up next. INGRAHAM: The Kavanaugh confirmation brawl could have an impact on the upcoming midterms. President Trump is appearing to put aside talk of a red wave, replacing it with a new, passionate call to rally his supporters. Here he is in Missouri tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You have got to get out and vote. I know you're complacent. If you lose the midterm, we are going to go through nothing but fights. We're going to be fighting to keep what you have. They are going to want to take it away. You have got to get out. You can't be complacent. It's fragile. You have got to get out. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining us now is Will Jawando, a Democratic strategist, who is also the party's nominee for the county council in Montgomery County, Maryland. It's great to see you, Will. WILL JAWANDO, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Good to be here. INGRAHAM: The president I think before was maybe a little confident because the economy was so great, this prediction of the big blue wave was probably overstated. But clearly he is playing the investigation. They are going to be dropping down investigation after investigation. All this progress we made will be turned back. How do you see things? JAWANDO: I think someone got in his ear. You often hear with Trump, whoever is the last person to leave he listens to, I think said, hey, you need to make sure our base turns out. The Democrats, we're obviously motivated. You have 153 women running for Congress, nominated. It's going to be another year of the woman. So people are motivated. Turnout is up in every state. In Maryland we were up 25 percent in our primary. So I think someone realized you have got to get your base fired up. INGRAHAM: What are the Democrats running for? JAWANDO: We are running to make sure that there is equality and that everyone has a seat at the table, that women are there, that we get health care back, that we make education equal. Betsy DeVos has been a disaster at the Department of Education. INGRAHAM: How so? JAWANDO: She has rolled back so many things. I worked at the department of education under Obama. INGRAHAM: I did too. I worked under Reagan, just a little before you. JAWANDO: Yes, a couple years, a couple years. Rolling back protections for LGBT communities, giving private colleges, for-profit colleges, letting them run roughshod. So there are a lot of things. INGRAHAM: The thing I think that is tough for Democrats, and I get it, they don't like Trump -- I think a lot of it is they don't like Trump's personality. I think that's a lot of it for the Democrats, because he is really doing a great job on the economy. African-American unemployment, Hispanic unemployment, women-owned businesses, confidence in the future of this country, right truck, wrong track, is that right, I think a 12-year turn-around. I believe that's right. If not, I'll correct it. I think that's right. But anyway, the right track, wrong track is much better than it was just a few years back. So all of that is really positive for the country. I get Democrats want more equality. But isn't the way to get more equality to have more economic opportunity? That's a big part of it, is it not? JAWANDO: You saw record job growth under President Obama. INGRAHAM: Not manufacturing jobs. Not manufacturing jobs. He said those manufacturing jobs aren't coming back. They are coming back under Trump. JAWANDO: You have seen a spike because of the tax cuts. But any objective analysis has shown that the job growth recession had ended well under Obama and it has continued. This trade war that Trump is creating has a big-time effect on hurting us in the long-term. These unpaid for tax cuts are -- INGRAHAM: How is it hurting you in the long-term? So you think it is sustainable to have a $380 billion a year trade deficit with China, that's sustainable? JAWANDO: No, it's not sustainable. INGRAHAM: What did Obama do to turn it around? JAWANDO: That's not the way to attack it. INGRAHAM: So what is the way to attack it? JAWANDO: Trade war and drive up prices. INGRAHAM: That is just a cliche. I should go into sports commentaroy. Politics is cliche. So is sports, I get it. But it is just a change. But that can't continue for the country. At some point, you have to pay the piper. JAWANDO: You have a $1 trillion in unpaid for tax cuts. INGRAHAM: The problem is, of course, we had the debt double under Obama. JAWANDO: We're on track for that here to. INGRAHAM: The people are going to have to decide whether they want to go forward with economic advancement or they want to go backwards. I think it's a tough, I think Democrats are going to have the historic edge. But we'll see where it goes. Great to have you on tonight. JAWANDO: Good to be back. Let's continue that Obama -- (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: I'll give it to you, he's a great speaker. Dramatic new evidence in the accusations of domestic abuse by DNC co-chair Keith Ellison. Will Democrats finally speak out? We have new details next. INGRAHAM: Charges of domestic abuse against DNC co-chair Keith Ellison, they're taking another dramatic turn. Will Democrats ever take them seriously? Joining us now with more is FOX News correspondent Kristin Fisher. Kristin? KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Laura, the details of these allegations have really been dripping out for over a month now. The latest bit to drop is that the woman accusing Congressman Keith Ellison of domestic abuse has released what appears to be a medical document from 2017 detailing the alleged abuse caused, allegedly, by the congressman. Karen Monahan is Ellison's ex-girlfriend and she published the document on social media. It appears to be from a Minnesota clinic back in November of 2017. And in it she claims that a doctor wrote that she, quote, was in a very stressful environment for years, emotional and physical abuse by a partner with whom she is now separated. She identifies the individual she was involved with as Congressman Ellison, and she is worried about retribution if she identifies him publicly. Monahan published the document just days after claiming that the Democratic Party, quote, smeared, threatened, and isolated her over these allegations against the congressman, who also happens to be the deputy chairman of the Democratic National Committee. The DNC has said that it's reviewing the accusations. Ellison has categorically denied all of it. And Laura, don't forget, after the allegations came out, he still went on to win the Democratic primary for Minnesota attorney general. Laura? INGRAHAM: Unbelievable. INGRAHAM: It takes a lot to put this show on every night. Certainly not just yours truly, a big team. One of our favorite senior producer Nick Robertson is saying goodbye to the network after 10 years. I can't believe it. And he EP-ed the show tonight. Nick, we're going to miss you. Oh, my gosh, we're still going to go drinking together, don't worry about that. Nick, thanks for everything you've done for the show. Go have fun with the staff. Up next, Mike Emanuel filling in for -- Load-Date: September 22, 2018 End of Document Trump's Vegas Rally Moments Away; Democrats' Shameless Obstruction Tactics; The Accuser of Judge Brett Kavanaugh Now Again Says that She Will Testify on the Senate Committee but She Wants Judge Kavanaugh to Go First, Which Critics Say Kind of Odd; New Details from FBI Officials Text Messages Shows the Political Bias at the Very Highest Levels of the Justice Department Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 20, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 9992 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Kristin Fisher Guests: Dan Bongino, Ari Fleischer Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Tucker, great show. Amazing crowd we are here in Las Vegas. And we wish you were here with us, by the way. Donald Trump is just minutes away, by the way, from Vegas as we are here. And anyway, glad he's taking the stage. A huge rally. After the speech and at some point during the show or later, we're going to bring the interview with the president. We're only 47 days until the midterms. So much to cover tonight. The news is breaking all over the place. Democrats, they are sadly putting politics above the rule of law. It is sad to watch. It is dangerous for the country. No due process, no presumption of innocence. And according to the left wing in this country, Judge Kavanaugh is guilty by accusation. And in just moments, we're going to show you how Democrats are literally using a serious sexual assault allegation as a political tool, weapon, to bludgeon, delay, disrupt and destroy the Kavanaugh confirmation. We'll also uncover a blatant double standard at the highest levels of Democratic Party. They will be called out tonight. Their message to the American people? Only allegations against Republicans should be taken seriously. Not against their fellow Democrats. And also tonight, we have big breaking news from John Solomon and Sara Carter. This is huge tonight. According to newly unearthed documents, there were fears within the FBI that the Obama administration, right up to the top, where weaponizing top-secret intelligence against Donald Trump. In other words, the house of cards are falling. Sara Carter, John Solomon will join us tonight from Vegas. Also, a new undercover report. Project Veritas catching employees within Government Accountability Office bragging about breaking the rules, resistance, sabotage within the Trump campaign, in all aspects of government. And we also end on a good note. We have a report about a booming economy just 47 days away from Election Day. Anyway, it's time for our big breaking news, Las Vegas edition, opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. I have emphasized this over and over again. By the way, welcome to Vegas. The decades old assault charges, this is 36 years ago against Professor Christine Ford. She's making allegations against Judge Kavanaugh. Of course, they must be taken seriously. Her story deserves to be told. And Republicans, and President Trump, they have treating this situation with the pure seriousness that it deserves. Now, the Judiciary Committee chairman, Senator Grassley of Iowa, Senate Republicans, they've been doing everything they can do to accommodate Professor Ford. They have reopened the hearings. They invited the professor to appear before Congress. They have offered a public hearing, they have offered a private hearing. They have reached up by phone, email, and more for background. They even offered to fly Senate staff anywhere within the United States to meet Ford for a private interview. So far? Professor Ford, her left wing lawyer, have not agreed to any of this. And according to an email obtained by "The Washington Post," she definitely will not appear before the committee on Monday, but maybe open to a later date if the Senate agrees to her terms. We're going to watch this unfold. Now, meanwhile, Judge Kavanaugh, well, he's already testified, by the way, under threat of perjury. He's agreed to testify wherever, whenever, in front of you, the American people. In fact, he's agreed to testify this coming Monday. But Democrats don't seem to care. They have thrown a principle we hold so dear, due process, the presumption of innocence, out the window. They've already convicted Kavanaugh based on one allegation. And according to them, mob rule, much many in the left are governed, Kavanaugh is guilty just by an accusation. This is dangerous for every American. And according to them, he has no right to be believed at all. Not even a right to be heard according to Senator Gillibrand. No right of the perception of innocence. This is not the American way. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: The Senate shouldn't simply rely on hearing two conflicting accounts and decide, well, we're okay with not knowing, we're okay with the fact we might be putting someone who committed attempted rape on the Supreme Court of the United States. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: I believe her. First of all, anybody who comes forward at this point to be prepared to testify in the United States against someone nominated to one of the most powerful positions in the United States government, that takes an extraordinary amount of courage. SEN. MAIZE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: Not only do women like Dr. Ford who bravely comes forward, need to be heard but they need to be believed. They need to be believed. I want to say the men in this country: just shut up and step up. Do the right thing. SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: Let me just right at the outset, I believe Dr. Ford. I believe the survivor here. There's every reason to believe her. She has come forward courageously and bravely. SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: I believe her. I stand with her. And -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you hope she shows up on Monday? Do you hope that she testifies? GILLIBRAND: I don't think she should be bullied into this scenario, where it's a he said/she said. It's a sham hearing. And I don't think she should participate in it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: They have all taken sides. They have all made a decision. They do not want to give Judge Kavanaugh an opportunity to give his side. Taking cues from their allies in the Democratic Party, the corrupt mainstream media in this country, in what is a disgusting, despicable display, they have picked up their pitchforks, their torches, and they are convicting judge Kavanaugh based on an accusation. No presumption of innocence from your left-wing destroy-Trump media. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What you're seeing is the stealth intimidation campaign. I really think that's what's going on here is to send a message to Professor Blasey that the world is aligning against you, or at least the power structure of the world is aligning against you. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am blown away. Before I saw this, I'm like, oh. come on, what could be in this yearbook? Nonsense? This is sick stuff. The devils triangle in your yearbook forever and ever? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: These people in Congress right now, these white men - - old, by the way -- are not protecting women. They are protecting a man who is probably guilty. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can give a scenario for both of you that if the Republicans will not like. The accuser, Dr. Ford, appears on television and gives her full story to a reporter, anchor person, and it's deadly. It's deadly. They are stuck with this confirmation. I don't think they're going to be very happy with that, scenario. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's definitely attempted rape. I don't see it any other way. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Not to be undone, the left wing radical group moveon.org produced in this ad a full of celebrities. I love you, too. Hi. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) Anyway, we are in Vegas. But they are so more happy to ignore the rule of law. They are rushing to judgment. They are politicizing this. They don't believe in due process. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Dear Professor Ford -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Dear Professor Ford -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Dear Professor Ford -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We know how difficult it is to stand up to powerful people. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We want to thank you for publicly sharing your story of sexual violence. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As members of the Senate determine whether -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Brett Kavanaugh -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Brett Kavanaugh -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Should serve as Supreme Court justice. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Supreme Court justice. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Supreme Court justice. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This context is critical. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The behavior you described was wrong. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wrong. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wrong. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wrong and runs directly counter to upholding the law and justice. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And promoting justice. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He should not be confirmed. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He should not be confirmed. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He should not be confirmed. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We can also imagine how shocking and overwhelming it must have been to have your truths shared on the national stage without your permission. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You should be the decision-maker about how your story is shared, if ever. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We applaud your courage in coming forward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: For the public good. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And we will be with you as you face the inevitable backlash. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The inevitable backlash. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The inevitable backlash. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are strong. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are strong. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: You are not alone. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: You are a survivor. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A survivor. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A survivor. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And millions of us have your back. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You and your testimony are credible. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You and your testimony are credible. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You and your testimony are credible. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We believe you. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: We believe you. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We believe you. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Signed, your sisters. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: Signed, your sisters. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALES: Signed, your sisters. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. So, the big question: what would happen if a conservative group came out and said those words, except they believe Judge Kavanaugh? They say judge Kavanaugh is credible. Can you believe the outrage from the left? This is not a game. This controversy is not about politics, should never be about politics. It should be about ascertaining the truth. These are real people, real families, real kids, real wives, real lives involved in all of this. Now, Professor Ford has received death threats. We are very sorry to hear that. That should never happen in this society. So too judge Kavanaugh and his wife, the most despicable of death threats themselves. This is unacceptable in America today. The courageous keyboard warriors out there, they need to stop and they need to stop now. And meanwhile, it's perfectly clear the left is using what is a serious allegation from 36 years ago that has not been proven to use this as a political bludgeoning tool, using it politically. And according to "Politico", a well-known Democratic operator is now advising Professor Ford. We know that her attorney is very inconsistent on this issue. She went after Paula Jones. She supported Al Franken. Senator Feinstein is claiming the media somehow outed Professor Ford with information that only Feinstein and her fellow Democrats had access to. I don't believe them, they were the only ones that had the information. And Senate Democrats won't even show a Senate Republicans since July the unredacted letter where Ford makes her first allegations. Why won't they allow the Republicans to see this? This to them is now some sort of political game and it's not. These are real lives in play here. Democrats, they don't want to confirm Judge Kavanaugh. They never wanted him to be confirmed. We saw how they acted during the hearings. We see how they are acting now. Now, this is why every American has a right to be skeptical tonight. We know the Democratic Party, we know their track record on claims of sexual misconduct. It is beyond suspect. Now take, for example, right now, not 36 years ago, Congressman Keith Ellison. He's the deputy chair, number two guy, of the Democratic Party. In August, oh, a month ago, his ex-girlfriend went public with claims that Keith Ellison, Congressman Ellison, physically abused her on multiple occasions, including one instance where she claims he violently dragged her through the house screaming, bleep, get the -- bleep, get out of my house. Now, despite these allegations, recently, a month ago, Ellison goes on to easily win the party's nomination to be the next Minnesota attorney general. Now, think about this. She claims he physically and mentally abused her over and over again. And guess what? Prominent Democrats lineup in support, they believe Kavanaugh's accuser, you're hard-pressed to find any Democrats standing behind Ellison's ex-girlfriend. That proves its politics. Now, I don't hear from Kirsten Gillibrand. Haven't heard from Kamala Harris. Haven't heard from Adam shifty Schiff. Virtually nobody. That means this is political. But there's more. Ellison's ex-girlfriend, she just tweeted that the entire Democratic Party, they wouldn't take her claims seriously, despite even a doctor's report indicating this abuse happened. Instead, she had to tweet out, the DNC smeared, threaten the, and isolated her. And the DNC chairman Tom Perez, well, he said that he's still proud he made Ellison the deputy DNC chair. Do not see the hypocrisy and double standard? So, the DNC, Ellison, we've called them. They refuse to answer our repeated attempts for comment. Another Democrat that exposes the blatant double standard, he walks the halls of Congress. Look at him. There's Sherrod Brown of Ohio. Now, take a look at this new political ad. It details the abuse allegations against him at -- by his then wife. These are all court records. Take a listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AD ANNOUNCER: Now, Senator Sherrod Brown is facing his own #MeToo movement from his past. These court records show sworn evidence that his ex-wife accused him of abusing her. She said Brown assaulted her. A judge had to issue a restraining order. Later, she said Brown violated the court order, pushing, shoving and bullying her. Brown claims it's a family matter, but his ex-wife, like other victims, has a right to be believed. This senator had to resign when evidence emerged he mistreated women. Why is Senator Brown different? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Sorry. Saying hi to people. So, where are the Democrats? This is serious, lining up against -- I just got this thrown to me, by the way. Lining up against Senator Brown. This is a serious topic. Where are they? Now, without refuting any of those horrible claims, even his wife is supporting him politically. But that's up to her. But those court papers remain. Then you've got Senator Cory Booker, Spartacus himself, gearing up clearly for a presidential run for the Democratic Party. 1992, he actually wrote a column in "The Stanford Daily", detailing how he groped a woman when he was a teenager with, quote, with the "Top Gun" slogan ringing in my head, I slowly reached for her breasts, after having my hand pushed away once, I reached my mark. That's from Senator Booker, Spartacus, now calling on Kavanaugh's vote to be delayed? What a hypocrite. His office called the story a right-wing attack. Those were his words. And next up, how could you ever forget the most notorious sexual predator inside the Democratic Party, Bill Clinton himself. Here are what a few of Clinton's accusers had to say about the former president. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPO) HANNITY: You describe the scene where he was biting on your left and t when it was all over, he was leaving, said, you better put some ice on that. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, and casually put on his sunglasses and walked out the door. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was a terrible ordeal for me and I -- no woman should be subjected to it. It was an assault. HANNITY: He assaulted you? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. HANNITY: He touched, grabbed, fondled, kissed you against your will. It's an allegation that is not made by one woman. It's made by multiple women. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Many of us. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I said, well, I may need to go or something, and next thing you know he pulled down his - - he sit down, pulled down his pants, his whole everything. He was exposed. And I said, I'm not that kind of girl. I need to be getting back to my bed. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You know what? She worked for Bill Clinton at the time. He dropped his pants. Exposed himself. Said, kissed it. Juanita Broaddrick was about rape. Juanita Broaddrick said this week, where is my FBI investigation? All of the same senators feigning moral outrage, they said nothing in the case of bill Clinton. In fact, he was beloved by most of his colleagues, many that are still in the Senate despite what is a long, long, long track record of exposing himself and allegations of rape, groping, grabbing, fondling, touching, kissing against a woman's will, and the worst day of her life, Feinstein, Schumer, Dicky Durbin, the rest of them, so many other Democrats, they enthusiastically support everything Clinton, even voted against his impeachment. And they all thought the man that just heard described was perfectly fit to hold the highest office in the land. But not Judge Kavanaugh. One instance, one person, no evidence, nothing from 36 years ago and they rush to judgment. There's no due process. And, of course, in this particular case, an accusation is definitive. They believe, but they haven't heard the other side. And I believe we have the resumption of innocence. They are ready to lock up Judge Kavanaugh and throw away every other key fact in his life the last four decades. But when it comes to any Democrat, the party is more than happy to sweep those allegations under the rug, not take them seriously. The mainstream media backs them up every step of the way. They should be ashamed tonight, but they're not. Democrats are not the party of women that they claim. It's also the party of Clinton, and Ellison, and Weinstein, and Weiner, and others. We'll have more on this throughout the show. But we do have a huge, big breaking news also tonight. "The Hill's" John Solomon, Sara Carter, also, making a shocking discovery tonight. Even more Strzok texts and emails have been unearthed, and this time, they are casting a suspicious light on the Obama administration. According to a text from January 23rd, 2017, Strzok texting Page, quote: He, like us, is concerned with oversharing. Doesn't Want Clapper giving CR cuts to the White House. All political, just shows our hand and potentially makes enemies. Now, we're unclear what CR cuts stands for, but it could very well mean classified raw intelligence. In other words, according to Solomon's reporting tonight, high ranking FBI agent, Peter Strzok, is concerned that Clapper, the director of national intelligence, the Obama White House, up to the president himself, could potentially weaponize intelligence and use it against political enemies, the same Clapper who spews anti-Trump vitriol every night at his cushy gig at fake news CNN. And, by the way, these texts occurred during a critical time, less than three weeks before the intel community released a report claiming pro-Trump Russian interference in our election. John Solomon and Sara Carter will break it all down tonight for us. It's just one more piece of evidence that those at the highest levels in government involved in an effort to prevent Trump from ever getting elected and then destroy the president after the election. And sadly tonight, we still have people working in our bloated federal bureaucracy actively working against the president bragging about it and are proud of it. We have the proof. James O'Keefe, projectveritas.com, they have uncovered these deep state anti-Trump operatives. This is day three of their release. They released a new video showing one employee at the Government Accountability Office, or the GAO, was working on behalf of the Democratic Socialists of America and they're using their position, you are paying them to undermine the president and his agenda. It's important to note that the GAO is a congressional watchdog group, at least supposedly, they supposedly issue reports on congressional spending. Now, we haven't verified the undercover video. But we'll let you watch, you'll decide. Take a look. It's shocking. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NATARAJAN SUBRAMANIAN, GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE: If you're in executive branch agency, you can slow ball things to a degree, that it's like ineffective, and maybe you get in trouble and maybe, you know, you get fired or you resign, or whatever, but like you slowed them down for a certain period of time. Technically, everything I'm doing with DSA is stuff I'm not supposed to be doing for work. So like -- JOURNALIST: What do you mean? SUBRAMANIAN: Like, it's explicitly prohibited. So like, if they find out, I could get in trouble basically. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You see that guy you just saw? Well, the GAO has now earlier today released a statement. That employee you just saw has been removed from any GAO work. And they are taking this seriously as they are in the Department of Justice and the State Department. We'll update you, of course, as O'Keefe uncovers more and more of these bureaucrats, these saboteurs within the administration abusing their power and trust that we give them, and we pay them. But we end on a good note tonight. Our economy in this country is booming for the third week in a row. Jobless claims have fallen to a 49-year low. In 47 days, when you go to the polls, it's important to ask yourself this question: are you better off than you were two years ago? Is the economy better off? We have record after record, record low unemployment, 14 states, African- American, Hispanic-Americans, Asian- American, 65-year low for women in the workplace. Youth unemployment is at a 59-year low. The Atlanta Fed is now projecting 4.47 GDP growth for the next quarter. This country is thriving, it's getting better. In 47 days, you get to decide. The people here, they get to decide whether the good news continues. And the wall is beginning to get built and security has increased with Iran and North Korea. And, of course, getting out of the bad Iranian deal and tougher sanctions ever we've ever we had against Russia. Hi. (CHANTING) HANNITY: This is a great crowd. The president is coming into the building soon, but we will have reaction from my opening monologue. Judge Jeanine Pirro, Gregg Jarrett, and much more, as we say hi from Vegas. (CHEERS) HANNITY: All right. We are live in Vegas tonight. By the way, president beginning to touchdown as he's coming to this rally where we're broadcasting from at the Convention Center here in Vegas. Now, FOX News has learned moments ago that Kavanaugh's accuser, Professor Ford, through her attorney has now issued a new list of terms for any, quote, congressional testimony. Among the new terms, we can report she only wants members of the committee, no lawyers to question her. Kavanaugh cannot be in the room, and Kavanaugh must be questioned first. Joining us with reaction here in Vegas, author of the number one "New York Times" bestseller, "The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Greg Jarrett, author of "The New York Times" bestseller, number one bestseller, "Liars, Leakers and Liberals: The Case Against the Anti-Trump Conspiracy, she's the host of "Justice", Judge Jeanine Pirro. You guys both are like battling it out week after week for number one on "The New York Times." It's hilarious to me. JUDGE JEANINE PIRRO, FOX NEWS HOST, "JUSTICE: It couldn't happen to two better people, right, Gregg? GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: What a great crowd out here. PIRRO: They are fabulous! HANNITY: They are great. JARRETT: I was crowd surfing. It's fun. HANNITY: It's fun. All right. So, originally -- (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) HANNITY: This is a great crowd. So, originally, they said we want an FBI investigation. FBI says that's not -- PIRRO: That's not what they do. HANNITY: OK. Then earlier today, we are hearing all these other things -- well, we don't want people to disagree with us. Now, we've got a new set of terms. The lawyer, Katz, for Professor Ford, she didn't believe Paula Jones. She actually stood up for that creep Al Franken. So, it's political. None of the people that are attacking here, Judge Kavanaugh, none of them have gone after Keith Ellison, number two of the DNC, a congressman. Doesn't that prove the hypocrisy? PIRRO: Well, it not only proves the hypocrisy. But since when does truth and justice or guilt and innocence depend upon your political party? I fear for this nation when this is now the standard. You believe any woman who goes against a Republican, and you don't believe a woman who goes against a Democrat. HANNITY: Judge, what would happen? You saw the moveon.org -- we believe you, your story is credible. Now, I don't know what happened and neither do they. PIRRO: Right. HANNITY: All right. It's a serious allegation. Rightly, the president has taken it seriously. The Senate Judiciary Committee is taking it seriously. They are trying to accommodate Professor Ford every way they can. I agree with that. PIRRO: Of course. HANNITY: But if there was an ad that said, you are credible, Judge Kavanaugh, we believe you, what would the reaction be? PIRRO: Well, they would hit the ceiling, Sean. I mean, you know that the contradiction in this country right now was beyond anything I've ever seen. I worry for the country. I don't want these people who sit on juries. It's no longer about the facts, or truth and justice. It's about politics. And this is a sad state of affairs. HANNITY: Everything sadly gets politicized. There was a rush to judgment in Ferguson, Missouri. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: Even Obama got involved or the Cambridge police rushed to judgment, Freddie Gray in Baltimore, Trayvon Martin. Meanwhile, thousands of unnamed people were getting shot and killed in Chicago. They never got to talk about because it wasn't political. Why are people willing to throw out due process, equal justice under the law, and the resumption of innocence? JARRETT: Because they are overzealous to the point that they've really lost their common sense. I will give you an example. The United States Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York stood in front of television cameras the other day and said of the accuser, I believe her, I believe what she said. It has to-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But she shouldn't even have to answer a question. JARRETT: That's true. Now forget the fact that Gillibrand went to law school. She must've slept through resumption of innocence. But here she is representing the people and she is concluding, on camera, that the accuser is telling the truth when Gillibrand has never met the accuser, never spoken to the accuser, has never heard from her lips the story that is alleged. HANNITY: Why won't they even release the letter they got in July? JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: They are not giving the unredacted version to the Republicans on the committee or the chairman even. PIRRO: I think an even bigger problem, Sean, is the fact that you had a woman who went to high school with the alleged victim who said it absolutely did happen. And then one of her -- when she was put to the test, she said, well, I just felt empowered that it happened but I don't know that he did. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I don't have any facts. PIRRO: This is -- this is worrisome. It means that people would make up stories. HANNITY: My understanding is, didn't they say that this came up for the first time in couples therapy in 2012? PIRRO: Yes. And what was that about, what was the first time Kavanaugh's name came up? What about is this hypnosis? Is this confabulation? This is all stop that is contrary to what the law calls for. HANNITY: So if they cared about the issue, her attorney would have supported Paula Jones, her attorney would be speaking out against Keith Ellison. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: Her attorney wouldn't have defended Al Franken. This is the point. Kirsten Gillibrand and Kamala Harris, and all these people, Blumenthal from Connecticut, they wouldn't be saying I believe her, but why wouldn't you say you believe Keith Ellison's girlfriend who says she was beaten and abused by the number two at the DNC? JARRETT: Nobody knows the truth of what happened which is why-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Dianne Feinstein said it and got excoriated. JARRETT: -- which is why it's important. And we do this in public jury trials to hear from the lips of the accuser and if he wants, the accused. Kavanaugh is more than willing to testify. But I'm baffled by the demands of the accuser now who is saying, I want him to testify first. That's backwards. In a court of law, it's always the accuser that first testifies to allow the defendant to be able to respond to her allegations. How can you respond to something-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Should they into these new demands, because the demands keep shifting and changing? JARRETT: No. Senator Grassley and the judiciary committee should try to regain control of these proceedings. Their constitutional duty is to advise and consent. It is not-- HANNITY: If you care about women -- and I do. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: If you care -- and you have an open mind, it's a serious allegation. JARRETT: Absolutely. HANNITY: Wait for all sides to be heard, but also you've got to look at the 40 intervening years. And again, I go back to Ellison. That's August. (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: Well, wait a minute. HANNITY: They're not saying a word. That shows-- (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: It's not just time with Ellison. There is a meeting at outcry. There are photographs. There are injuries. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: A doctor from (Inaudible). JARRETT: There are witnesses. There are videos. We have facts. And look, I prosecuted these crimes for 30 years. It's what I did for 30 years. HANNITY: I know. PIRRO: You've got to be able to support an allegation. HANNITY: You start when you're five? PIRRO: Here's the problem. They are willing to destroy a man and his reputation for a woman they know nothing other than her allegation and her politics. HANNITY: Do you know what's sad? All I see is this rush to judgment. I believe her. And I see this man who wants to serve his country. He may be innocent and his family has to hear that he's guilty. (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: But he has done nothing. HANNITY: They are saying he's guilty. That is mob rule. That is not-- (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: It is not true. And this is a man who spent his life in support of truth and justice. And this nation of law and order. HANNITY: That's not what -- that's not how this country works. JARRETT: Absolutely. You know, everybody should actually be presumed innocent until and accuser steps forward and actually speaks, we need to judge the credibility of Dr. Ford. HANNITY: And maybe the 40 years, the woman that knew him at the time in high school, in college, in law school. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: The people in the Bush administration, the law -- female law clerks who served under him, people who work with them now, they all tell a very different story. JARRETT: All of this has been mishandled and that can be laid at the feet of Senator Dianne Feinstein. She knew about this six weeks ago and sat on it, did nothing about it, had ample opportunity to bring it up. Her explanation makes no common sense. HANNITY: All right. Vegas, do you like these guys? They're really good friends. Number one New York Times bestseller. Thank you both. Great job. When we come back, huge breaking news, this is big. An exclusive report. John Solomon, Sara Carter, new reports as we continue live from Vegas. President Trump expected in the building any second. HANNITY: All right. As we continue tonight from Vegas there you see the president is now just walking down the stairs of Air Force One. By the way, do you see the president? He is right there. He will be here. This crowd is packed. We're having a great time. Anyway, we have been reporting on the ongoing scandal that's unfolding at the FBI intelligence community at the very highest levels of the Justice Department, even. John Solomon, Sara Carter both have stories tonight. John, the positive story in The Hill, it says, FBI memos detailed partisan access secret conference behind the Russian Election meddling assessment. Sara Carter's piece out today, and it says "FBI memos raised deep questions about Russia, Trump intel assessment." All right, joining us now, she is here with us in Vegas, Sara Carter. The Hill's John Solomon was invited but he declined our invitation to come and hang out. (CROSSTALK) JOHN SOLOMON, VICE PRESIDENT, THE HILL: I have (Inaudible). HANNITY: I know. I know. Sara, let's start with you. Let's talk about what this means. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: I think what we are seeing here with these new developments, Sean, with the text messages and the e- mails with Strzok and Page, is that the intelligence community itself was divided. Remember, everybody had assumed for the last two years that they were all on the same page about the fact that the Russians meddled in the election to help President Trump win. And now what we found through these text messages and these e-mails that it's not what they were saying at all. In fact, the FBI did not believe at that point that they had evidence enough to say that. To publicly say that. The assessment did stick with that. HANNITY: And Lisa Page's testimony months later, nine months in they did not have any evidence. But, and this is where I will throw it to John. In your report, John, you say that they actually were afraid because the administration of Barack Obama wanted a narrative and they wanted to believe the worst so they could push it out and use intelligence as a weapon against Donald Trump? Am I framing that right? SOLOMON: Yes. That certainly the inference of the text messages. Anyone who said there isn't public text in the intelligence community ought to read these e-mails and read these text messages. They are talking about partisan acts as being sharpened at the very end of the Obama administration right as the Russian intelligence report is being crafted and written and about to be released to the public and about to be briefed to Trump and to Obama. They talk about politics, they talk about not trusting the DNI, James Clapper. These are very serious things, a dysfunctional intelligence committee it seems like. But there are two factual thing reported. I think Sara hit on one already. Peter Strzok writes in an e-mail that you can't say for sure singularly that Russia's intention was to help swing the election to Trump. But there is a combination of factors and we can't say for sure any one of them was the motive. That's very different than what we've heard. Secondly, there is a reference in one of the text messages that the secret information, the classified information that the FBI had was different than the intelligence community sort of public narrative. Those things have to be investigated further. I know Congress is looking at them. But those are two factual points amidst the politics. HANNITY: So you literally have a conflict within the intelligence community, but they know that the administration wants to weaponize it as a tool really to bludgeon Trump and advance a false narrative, Sara. CARTER: Yes. Not only did they want to do that, but we know on the FBI side that they have the dossier, right? And the dossier was intentionally added to the assessment, right? The intelligence assessment. And they use that dossier to propagate disinformation about the president. HANNITY: But we really get to the bare bones of this. Not only did they exonerate Hillary, but then it got worse. She pays funnels the money, Fusion GPS, foreign national, lies on a dossier. The lies are used and disseminated before the election to destroy Trump then they weaponize it after. This is the insurance policy. CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: But tonight, it now gets right into the Oval Office. We are getting very close to what did Obama want to? He wanted the phony narrative. CARTER: That's right. He wanted the phony narrative. And then their own text and their words, to Strzok's words, the White House was going to eat this up. They were going to eat this assessment alive because, one, it didn't reflect on them. They could push it off to the FBI. But the White House could use the dossier and the assessment as a weapon against President Trump. HANNITY: And John, they were even afraid to give them the information because it wasn't verified, corroborated, because they knew that it would be politicized. Another intelligence politicized as a weapon against their opponents. SOLOMON: That's really the inference. And what troubles you the most when you read these things, they are talking about political acts, they're talking about politics. It's all political. They're worried about this intelligence being disseminated far enough so that a lame duck intelligence community, the Obama apparatus, might this misuse it. Its very telling how concerned these FBI agents were, and how they reluctant they were to put more information into the apparatus at that very moment when power was changing hands. This has to be looked at more closely with Congress. More people have to be answered. We have some breaking news tonight about Nellie Ohr and James Baker. The committee in the House wanted to get a volunteer agreement that's falling apart. It sounds like we are going to need subpoenas to get their stories. HANNITY: Yes, quick last word? CARTER: Yes. They are going to need subpoenas and the president next week is going to declassify those documents. HANNITY: We get them next week we think. CARTER: We think we're getting them next week. And look, the president is going to get some pushback, but he's going to push back on them and the American people are going to get the truth and they are going to get the documents. That's the most important. HANNITY: Great work, both of you. You deserve Pulitzer Prizes. The two of you. John Solomon, Sara Carter with us in Vegas. All right. When we come back we got a live report from Washington. The president expected in this building and I have an interview with him, and Ari Fleischer, and Dan Bongino weigh in on the accusations, and demands -- or accusation against Judge Kavanaugh, the demands of Professor Ford's team tonight. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. As we continue we are live in Vegas. You all having a good time? We got a great crowd. Momentarily, we expect the president is going to be right here in this building on this set. By the way, live from D.C. first with an update on the Kavanaugh confirmation. Fox News Washington correspondent, Kristin Fisher has the latest details tonight. Kristin? KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Sean. Well, if they hearing happens, Judge Kavanaugh says he'll be there on Monday to testify. In a letter tonight to the chairman of the Senate judiciary committee, Kavanaugh says, "I continue to want a hearing as soon as possible so that I can clear my name." So the question now is, will his accuser show up? Her lead attorney sent a letter to the committee this afternoon saying that "She wishes to testify provided we can agree on terms that are fair and which ensure her safety. A hearing on Monday, though, is not possible." Right now, negotiations are ongoing and two sources have confirmed the thoughts that Christine Blasey Ford's legal team is insisting on three key things. First, no lawyers can do the questioning. Only members of the committee. Second, Kavanaugh cannot be in the room. And finally, Kavanaugh must go first. Noticeably absent though from that list is one of their initial demands for a full investigation first, then a hearing, which Democrats have agreed with. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: We have to get to the bottom of this as Americans before we put someone on the Supreme Court for life. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: But Republicans say the committee has offered to let her testify in whatever setting that makes her feel the comfortable either a public or private hearing. And they believe that that should be enough. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R), FLORIDA: Ultimately if that doesn't happen, number one, she shouldn't be criticized for not doing it. Number two, we can't force her and we shouldn't to. But then the Senate has to move forward based on the information we have before us. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: Either way regardless of whether or not this hearing on Monday actually happens, the White House remains very confident that Kavanaugh will still be confirmed as the next Supreme Court justice. But boy, Sean, it is getting ugly on both sides. HANNITY: All right, Kristin Fisher in Washington. Thank you for that report. By the way, the president is going to sit down with us in just about a minute or two, so we are told, when he does we'll bring it live. Joining us now with reaction author of the new book "Spygate: The Attempted Sabotage of Donald J. Trump," former Secret Service agent, NRA TV contributor and friend to the program, Dan Bongino, former White House press secretary, a man that has been in a lot of fights and fires himself, Ari Fleischer, is with us. Ari, you know Judge Kavanaugh. You've heard him describe a very different man by people who knew him from high school, through the Bush administration, through the time he has been a judge. It's got to be very troubling. You knew him personally, know him personally. What are your thoughts on all of this? ARI FLEISCHER, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Well, you know, I served with Brett in the White House and this is not Brett Kavanaugh. This is just, it doesn't makes any sense to me that Brett would never act like that. It's not his nature, it's not his personality. And so this whole thing comes as quite a shock to me. And I think Brett is chomping at the bit, go before judiciary, and say this wasn't him. He never did any of these things. That's what he said already and I think he can't wait to say it for the country to watch it. HANNITY: I think it's right to take it seriously. The president has shown the proper seriousness of it. The Senate judiciary committee -- Republicans have. If anybody has not been serious here, Dan Bongino, it's been people like Dianne Feinstein. They had this in July. Even tonight still, they have not shared the unredacted letter that she got back in July. And the fact that they don't criticize Keith Ellison, the number two at the DNC, recent allegations not 36 years ago. DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Yes, Sean, you're right. They should be taken seriously and they have been. It's the Democrats that continue to move the goalpost here. There are two things that jump out to me. Number one, why would you demand that Brett Kavanaugh go first? Brett Kavanaugh defending himself and needs to counter these allegations. How is he going to counter the allegations if he don't -- if he doesn't know what the allegations are. And secondly, the prior demands for an FBI investigations. I did backgrounds when I was a federal agent, they did not do criminal backgrounds. They do criminal history backgrounds. They are completely different. This is not a criminal investigation. They're setting up a bunch of obstacles. They know that the Republicans can't possibly meet. HANNITY: Unbelievable. You know, look, if we are going to this, I see the list of demands that they've been changing. At first the attorney who is very political, the attorney didn't believe Paula Jones, the attorney Ms. Katz also defended Al Franken. That she's donated, you know, tens and thousands of dollars to Democrats, which is fine, Ari, but she's not consistent on the issue. Nor is Kirsten Gillibrand, or Kamala Harris, or all the people that supported Bill Clinton all these years. Juanita Broaddrick very profoundly tweeted out this week, "Where is my FBI investigation?" FLEISCHER: This does shows the undying hypocrisy of the Democrats. And listen, frankly, I think what's motivating Democrats in the Senate is not justice and not right or wrong, it's protection of senators in red states who are up for re-elections where Donald Trump has won those states. That's what's motivating the Democrats here, is to push these back beyond the election cycle which is why Dianne Feinstein sat on this issue, it's why it's an 11th hour demand, which is why they seek to delay the hearings with every step they can take. And that's probably what's going on now with these negotiations. Remember, we're not hearing from Fr. Ford. We are hearing from the lawyers who are Democratic donors about what they see the ground rules must be. This is all designed it seems to me, to protect those democrats so they do not have to take the hard road before the election. HANNITY: Dianne Feinstein said today, Dan Bongino, she actually said today, we didn't leak the information. The only people that had the letter were Democrats. BONGINO: Right. HANNITY: So it wasn't a Republican that leak the information. BONGINO: Yes. HANNITY: Do you think they did it on purpose this as part of-- (CROSSTALK) BONGINO: Yes, this is a-- HANNITY: -- and they do it maybe even against the wishes of Professor Ford. And what does that tell you about it? BONGINO: Yes. That's an interesting question, Sean. I mean, the Democrats have certainly not been cryptic about their strategy. I mean, you've even seen Senator Hirono come out and say hey, we could leave the seat empty for two years. And now I'm seeing some throw balloons floated that if Kavanaugh is in fact appointed, every case considered in front of this Kavanaugh Supreme Court then would be considered illegitimate. So this is a lose-lose and it's time for the Republicans to stand up and say, listen, we've given you multiple opportunities, we've taken these charges very seriously, we've given you multiple avenues to testify, we want to hear your story. But if you don't want to be heard and you want to lay out a bunch of insurmountable conditions for us, then it's going to be difficult for us to hear what you have to say. But no more delays they've got to take this vote. HANNITY: You know, they are now saying that they want, Ari, they're actually now saying that they have these conditions. Kavanaugh has to go first. Why wouldn't have Judge Kavanaugh have the ability to respond to her accusations. And should Senator Grassley -- by the way, I think they are very accommodating, which I thought was appropriate. Private, public, will come to you if need be if you are more comfortable. Why does she get it, why do they get to dictate? I would think the logical thing is she speaks and Judge Kavanaugh as being accused gets to respond. FLEISCHER: Of course that's how it should be. That's called justice. And that's how our court systems works, that's how basic fairness works. If somebody has an accusation to make, and in this case, Professor Ford should be entitled that right to make the accusation. Now witnesses don't get to determine the rules of the United States Senate, senators do. And there is a bipartisan process for these things and that's where the accuser in this instance, goes first, makes the case, and then in this case, Judge Kavanaugh have the ability to listen not necessarily from the same room, I agree with Professor Ford's lawyers on that. He shouldn't be in the room. But then he would come in and he'd be in the position to answer the question and rebut the charges haven't heard them. If he hasn't heard them, there is no fairness to the process. He needs to hear them first. And I think Chairman Grassley has already indicated the Senate is not going to go along with letting her go second. They are going to do if the standard way, the accuser goes first. HANNITY: You know, Dan Bongino, such as serious accusation. I also believe that we should have, we should be hearing from people that have known Judge Kavanaugh since high school, college, law school, et cetera. I think that would be fair. BONGINO: Yes. Sean, in my experience, working criminal cases for most of my adult life, usually this is not the type of incident given the seriousness of the charges that just randomly presents itself out of nowhere, Sean. There is typically a fact pattern in the past, a pattern of behavior, some corroborating a witness, and say this happened to me as well and some other folks. You just don't see this with Kavanaugh and he's entitled to defend himself. And I just think it's odd again, that they want Md. Ford, you know, to be able to -- Kavanaugh to go first. It's very strange. HANNITY: You know, Ari, sorry. There's actually some amazing music playing in the background. I expect the president -- he's coming in the building -- all right. So I've just been told that the president is walking in now and he's going to sit down with us. And Laura Ingraham has graciously agreed to give us a little bit of her time tonight. And we love her for it. Because the president his detail just came and gave us a two minute warning that he's walking in two minutes. OK. Let me go to Ari in the meantime. Yes, sir. Ari, go ahead. FLEISCHER: Go ahead, Sean. I think he has a question. HANNITY: You know, Ari, we've watched all of this happen before, we've seen it happen with Judge Bork, we've seen it happen with Clarence Thomas. Now it's happening again. Just like two or four years Republicans are racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic. So it is out of the playbook. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And this (Inaudible) question about why did Dianne Feinstein sit on this information. I think she sat on it because she wanted to take advantage and pushing this back beyond the election. So she waited until last minute. If you are a United States senator and you get a letter like the one that she got, you have a constitutional obligation as the Senator who has the power to advice and consent to immediately confront, to go to Judge Kavanaugh and say this is what I have been told. Is it true? She failed to take any of those basic constitutional actions. So you have to forgive Republicans when they say we smell politics here. Now that might not be the case, but the press. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- certainly is the case for the Democrats. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It would be fair to take it seriously. All right, we're going to leave it -- Laura Ingraham has been very gracious, gave us an extra minute of time. But the President is walking in. He's coming right up to the set as we speak, if we can get a camera on him. President Trump has just walked in and is coming over to our network. We want to thank Laura Ingraham very publicly for giving us extra time to interview the President, who is walking right up to the set as we speak. There he is, the Commander In Chief, and here comes the music, and here come the flags. Obviously, a lot of -- the crowd in this arena is huge as we come to you from the Vegas Convention Center. Mr. President, how are you sir? It is an honor to see you, wave to the fake news media. PRES. DONALD TRUMP (R), UNITED STATES PRESIDENT: Hello, folks. HANNITY: It's great to see you, how are you? Do want to sit? Do you want to stand? What do you want to do? TRUMP: Stand. Stand. Where is your camera? Tell me. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: First, you can thank Laura Ingraham who has given us extra Hannity time tonight. TRUMP: Well, she's very special. And she's doing well. HANNITY: You know what, she's doing well. She's a big supporter of yours. What do you make of where the Kavanaugh hearings are now? There's a new set of demands that have come out. TRUMP: I think it is a very sad situation. He is an outstanding person. And frankly, Sean, to see what is going on is just very, very sad. You say why didn't somebody call the FBI 36 years ago? I mean you could also say when did this all happen, what is going on? To take a man like this and -- with that being said, let her have her say and let's see how it all works out. But I don't think you can delay it any longer. They've delayed it a week already. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And you have been very accommodating. TRUMP: I have been very accommodating. I say let her say what she has to say, and let's see how it all comes out. But they've delayed it a week, and they have to get on with it. HANNITY: Well, Mr. President, you are dealing with a lot of good economic news today. And there is a lot of media people, it seems like all they ever talk about -- and John Solomon and Sara Carter broke the big story tonight. TRUMP: Great people. HANNITY: And what they're saying is, is that even the intelligence community and the FBI didn't want to give the intel to the Obama administration because there were conflicts, and they would weaponize it against you. That is our new information. TRUMP: Well, I am not surprised to hear it. If you look at what has been going on over the last couple of years, and I am not just talking about from the time I won the presidency. This took place when I was winning in the primaries. I mean you look at what is going on. I am not surprised to hear anything. HANNITY: Before the election, after the election, even the media leak strategy. Lisa Page had testified that for nine months they had no evidence at all whatsoever. But it seems to be coming to an end. TRUMP: Well, it has to come to an end. It is so bad for our country. I call it the witch hunt. It is so bad for our country. And when you see Strzok and Page and McCabe with these lies, they get fired for lying. You see all of the things, I mean Comey for lying and leaking. You see what went on. It has to come to an end, so bad for our country. HANNITY: The irony in all of this is I have been uncovering all of this, when you think about it. Clinton bought and paid for, used funneled money, a dossier, foreign national put it together. They never verified. They never corroborated. And it was the bulk of information you have now said declassify and redact it. How soon will not be coming? TRUMP: Well, we are moving along. We're working along. We are also dealing with foreign countries that do have a problem. I must tell you. I got called today from two very good allies saying please, can we talk. It is not as simple as all of that. And we do have to respect their wishes. But it will all come out. HANNITY: You know what? Elections are about peace and prosperity. Your economic record, I talked about it earlier in the show tonight. Record low unemployment, 14 states, American African-Americans, Hispanic- Americans, women, youth, unemployment, we have great news on the economy. Better news with Kim Jong-Un. He is not firing rockets over Japan. TRUMP: Well, with -- honestly, Korea, North Korea, South Korea, things are working out very nicely. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Tough sanctions against Russia and the Iranian economy, and the Chinese economy are both going down as you have taken a tough stand. TRUMP: Well, it is time to take a stand on China. We have no choice. You know it has been a long time. They have been hurting us. And our farmers are great. And our farmers are starting to do very well again. It is very interesting. But we are putting very, very heavy sanctions and other things on various countries. And we are getting along with some countries. But we have been ripped off, Sean, by the world. All of these countries, for years and years, and we can't do it anymore. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Getting better deals with Mexico. TRUMP: Good deal with, good for both, good for Mexico, good for us, everybody is happy. NAFTA was a disaster. We lost thousands of plans. We lost millions of jobs. NAFTA was a disaster. We have renegotiated it. We are in the process of working that one with Canada. We will see what happens with Canada. Canada has been tough. They charge 300 percent tariffs on dairy products, our farmers no good. You can't do that. So we will probably be able to -- we'll see what happens. (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: Go ahead. HANNITY: I will ask one last question. There are a lot of people in this arena waiting for you, as you can see. I will ask one final question. TRUMP: Anything for you. HANNITY: Forty seven days from now is the midterm elections, 47 days. We know what the agenda the Democrats are. They want to go after you. They want endless investigations. They want to keep Obamacare. They want to eliminate ICE. They want open borders. They want the crumbs back, your tax cuts. And my question is -- the questions that every American ought to ask is are we better off than we were two years ago? What do you say to those people that love you but maybe aren't so hot on the Republican House or Senate member? TRUMP: You have to go out and vote. We need more Republicans. We will get everything we want. We need more Republicans. You want to protect your second amendment. You want to protect everything. You want to protect all of the great success that you have had over the last -- little more than a year and a half. Think of it. We are coming up -- can you believe it, on two years when you I started talking. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Actually three when you came down the escalator. TRUMP: Yeah, if you talk about the campaign itself. But I will say this. You have to protect. Look at what is going on with the Supreme Court. If we are not there because we are all together as a group, if we are not there to protect, it is going to be some really bad day for this country. So we are protecting. But we made tremendous -- you know the stock market today, it's a good day to do an interview, because the stock market today hit the highest level in its history, today. Now did you work this interview out specifically for that? But it was up very big today, but it hit the highest -- all of the markets today hit the highest level. Now 401Ks are up 57 percent in a short period of time, if the Democrats get in, those numbers will be cut in half. You will see bad things. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Obama never made -- only President in history that never made three percent GDP growth in a year. All right, the budget negotiations are you going to demand -- you challenge Republicans, fund the wall completely? Will you insist on it? TRUMP: We are getting 1.6 billion. We're continuing -- we spent $3.2 billion. We're continuing to build the wall. I would like to do it. I could do it so quickly. I like to do it one piece. The Democrats are holding us back. I am told by Republican leadership, and I hope they do it because a lot of people are counting -- see the people with the wall. I want the wall too. HANNITY: Yeah. They've got it down. TRUMP: They will do it immediately after the election. We have got a billion six. A lot of money, but not when it comes to. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You already got three billion you spent. TRUMP: We have got 3.2 billion. It's being built. We've got a billion six. But we have to do much better than that, because we can do it very quickly. And you know the bottom line, we need it. The Democrats, they want open borders. They want people coming in. That means crime. We are the opposite. You have to have a border. You don't have a border, you don't have a country. You know that. HANNITY: Security. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's about -- and you want a door in your wall. TRUMP: It is going to have lots of doors. People are going to come in, but they are going to come in through merit. And they have to come it because we have companies moving in from all over the world. They are coming back to the United States. The biggest companies, Foxconn, the biggest companies in the world are coming back. We need people, but they have to come in through merit. HANNITY: Mr. President, thank you. And can you thank Laura again. She's probably going to be mad at me. TRUMP: Laura, I love your show. I watch it all the time. And you know what, you are special. You really are. It is a good combination. HANNITY: Thank you, Mr. President. I know this crowd, are you ready to hear the President? Thank you, sir. We appreciate you. Thank you so much. All right, that is all the time we have left this evening. We are always fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. Laura Ingraham, I really owe you, don't I? Load-Date: September 21, 2018 End of Document President Trump Gives Campaign Speech in Nevada; Senate to Hold Hearing Concerning Accusation of Sexual Assault against Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh; President Donald Trump to Hold a Rally in Las Vegas, Nevada in Support of Republican Senator Heller's Reelection Candidacy; The Fight over Brett Kavanaugh's Nomination Has Been Really Intensifying Lately, as It Has Devolved into a Partisan Game at Its Best Example; Since Ms. Ford's Name Was Revealed this Past Sunday, Senator Chuck Grassley and the Republicans in the Judiciary Committee Have Really Bent over Backwards to Accommodate Democrats and Her Demands Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 20, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8666 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Byron York Guests: Joe Digenova, Scott Bolden, Carrie Severino, Donald Trump Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS, HOST: Now it's happening again. Just like every two or four years, Republicans are racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic. So it is out of the playbook. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And this (Inaudible) question about why did Dianne Feinstein sit on this information. I think she sat on it because she wanted to take advantage and pushing this back beyond the election. So she waited until last minute. If you are a United States senator and you get a letter like the one that she got, you have a constitutional obligation as the Senator who has the power to advice and consent to immediately confront, to go to Judge Kavanaugh and say this is what I have been told. Is it true? She failed to take any of those basic constitutional actions. So you have to forgive Republicans when they say we smell politics here. Now that might not be the case, but the press. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- certainly is the case for the Democrats. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It would be fair to take it seriously. All right, we're going to leave it -- Laura Ingraham has been very gracious, gave us an extra minute of time. But the President is walking in. He's coming right up to the set as we speak, if we can get a camera on him. President Trump has just walked in and is coming over to our network. We want to thank Laura Ingraham very publicly for giving us extra time to interview the President, who is walking right up to the set as we speak. There he is, the Commander In Chief, and here comes the music, and here come the flags. Obviously, a lot of -- the crowd in this arena is huge as we come to you from the Vegas Convention Center. Mr. President, how are you sir? It is an honor to see you, wave to the fake news media. PRES. DONALD TRUMP (R), UNITED STATES PRESIDENT: Hello, folks. HANNITY: It's great to see you, how are you? Do want to sit? Do you want to stand? What do you want to do? TRUMP: Stand. Stand. Where is your camera? Tell me. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: First, you can thank Laura Ingraham who has given us extra Hannity time tonight. TRUMP: Well, she's very special. And she's doing well. HANNITY: You know what, she's doing well. She's a big supporter of yours. What do you make of where the Kavanaugh hearings are now? There's a new set of demands that have come out. TRUMP: I think it is a very sad situation. He is an outstanding person. And frankly, Sean, to see what is going on is just very, very sad. You say why didn't somebody call the FBI 36 years ago? I mean you could also say when did this all happen, what is going on? To take a man like this and -- with that being said, let her have her say and let's see how it all works out. But I don't think you can delay it any longer. They've delayed it a week already. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And you have been very accommodating. TRUMP: I have been very accommodating. I say let her say what she has to say, and let's see how it all comes out. But they've delayed it a week, and they have to get on with it. HANNITY: Well, Mr. President, you are dealing with a lot of good economic news today. And there is a lot of media people, it seems like all they ever talk about -- and John Solomon and Sara Carter broke the big story tonight. TRUMP: Great people. HANNITY: And what they're saying is, is that even the intelligence community and the FBI didn't want to give the intel to the Obama administration because there were conflicts, and they would weaponize it against you. That is our new information. TRUMP: Well, I am not surprised to hear it. If you look at what has been going on over the last couple of years, and I am not just talking about from the time I won the presidency. This took place when I was winning in the primaries. I mean you look at what is going on. I am not surprised to hear anything. HANNITY: Before the election, after the election, even the media leak strategy. Lisa Page had testified that for nine months they had no evidence at all whatsoever. But it seems to be coming to an end. TRUMP: Well, it has to come to an end. It is so bad for our country. I call it the witch hunt. It is so bad for our country. And when you see Strzok and Page and McCabe with these lies, they get fired for lying. You see all of the things, I mean Comey for lying and leaking. You see what went on. It has to come to an end, so bad for our country. HANNITY: The irony in all of this is I have been uncovering all of this, when you think about it. Clinton bought and paid for, used funneled money, a dossier, foreign national put it together. They never verified. They never corroborated. And it was the bulk of information you have now said declassify and redact it. How soon will not be coming? TRUMP: Well, we are moving along. We're working along. We are also dealing with foreign countries that do have a problem. I must tell you. I got called today from two very good allies saying please, can we talk. It is not as simple as all of that. And we do have to respect their wishes. But it will all come out. HANNITY: You know what? Elections are about peace and prosperity. Your economic record, I talked about it earlier in the show tonight. Record low unemployment, 14 states, American African-Americans, Hispanic- Americans, women, youth, unemployment, we have great news on the economy. Better news with Kim Jong-Un. He is not firing rockets over Japan. TRUMP: Well, with -- honestly, Korea, North Korea, South Korea, things are working out very nicely. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Tough sanctions against Russia and the Iranian economy, and the Chinese economy are both going down as you have taken a tough stand. TRUMP: Well, it is time to take a stand on China. We have no choice. You know it has been a long time. They have been hurting us. And our farmers are great. And our farmers are starting to do very well again. It is very interesting. But we are putting very, very heavy sanctions and other things on various countries. And we are getting along with some countries. But we have been ripped off, Sean, by the world. All of these countries, for years and years, and we can't do it anymore. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Getting better deals with Mexico. TRUMP: Good deal with, good for both, good for Mexico, good for us, everybody is happy. NAFTA was a disaster. We lost thousands of plans. We lost millions of jobs. NAFTA was a disaster. We have renegotiated it. We are in the process of working that one with Canada. We will see what happens with Canada. Canada has been tough. They charge 300 percent tariffs on dairy products, our farmers no good. You can't do that. So we will probably be able to -- we'll see what happens. (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: Go ahead. HANNITY: I will ask one last question. There are a lot of people in this arena waiting for you, as you can see. I will ask one final question. TRUMP: Anything for you. HANNITY: Forty seven days from now is the midterm elections, 47 days. We know what the agenda the Democrats are. They want to go after you. They want endless investigations. They want to keep Obamacare. They want to eliminate ICE. They want open borders. They want the crumbs back, your tax cuts. And my question is -- the questions that every American ought to ask is are we better off than we were two years ago? What do you say to those people that love you but maybe aren't so hot on the Republican House or Senate member? TRUMP: You have to go out and vote. We need more Republicans. We will get everything we want. We need more Republicans. You want to protect your second amendment. You want to protect everything. You want to protect all of the great success that you have had over the last -- little more than a year and a half. Think of it. We are coming up -- can you believe it, on two years when you I started talking. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Actually three when you came down the escalator. TRUMP: Yeah, if you talk about the campaign itself. But I will say this. You have to protect. Look at what is going on with the Supreme Court. If we are not there because we are all together as a group, if we are not there to protect, it is going to be some really bad day for this country. So we are protecting. But we made tremendous -- you know the stock market today, it's a good day to do an interview, because the stock market today hit the highest level in its history, today. Now did you work this interview out specifically for that? But it was up very big today, but it hit the highest -- all of the markets today hit the highest level. Now 401Ks are up 57 percent in a short period of time, if the Democrats get in, those numbers will be cut in half. You will see bad things. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Obama never made -- only President in history that never made three percent GDP growth in a year. All right, the budget negotiations are you going to demand -- you challenge Republicans, fund the wall completely? Will you insist on it? TRUMP: We are getting 1.6 billion. We're continuing -- we spent $3.2 billion. We're continuing to build the wall. I would like to do it. I could do it so quickly. I like to do it one piece. The Democrats are holding us back. I am told by Republican leadership, and I hope they do it because a lot of people are counting -- see the people with the wall. I want the wall too. HANNITY: Yeah. They've got it down. TRUMP: They will do it immediately after the election. We have got a billion six. A lot of money, but not when it comes to. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You already got three billion you spent. TRUMP: We have got 3.2 billion. It's being built. We've got a billion six. But we have to do much better than that, because we can do it very quickly. And you know the bottom line, we need it. The Democrats, they want open borders. They want people coming in. That means crime. We are the opposite. You have to have a border. You don't have a border, you don't have a country. You know that. HANNITY: Security. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's about -- and you want a door in your wall. TRUMP: It is going to have lots of doors. People are going to come in, but they are going to come in through merit. And they have to come it because we have companies moving in from all over the world. They are coming back to the United States. The biggest companies, Foxconn, the biggest companies in the world are coming back. We need people, but they have to come in through merit. HANNITY: Mr. President, thank you. And can you thank Laura again. She's probably going to be mad at me. TRUMP: Laura, I love your show. I watch it all the time. And you know what, you are special. You really are. It is a good combination. HANNITY: Thank you, Mr. President. I know this crowd, are you ready to hear the President? Thank you, sir. We appreciate you. Thank you so much. All right, that is all the time we have left this evening. We are always fair and balanced. We're not the destroy Trump media. Laura Ingraham, I really owe you, don't I? LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS, HOST: Sean, thanks a lot. I appreciate it. I am Laura Ingraham, and this is The Ingraham Angle with a big show for you from Washington. As you can see, President Trump about to hold a rally in Las Vegas, Nevada, in support of a Republican Senator Dean Heller's reelection campaign. We're going to bring in with remarks live when he takes the stage. Now his speech tonight in Vegas comes as some 2,000 miles east, the fight over Brett Kavanaugh's nomination is really intensifying. It has devolved into a partisan game at its worst. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is a sham hearing. And I don't think she should participate in it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What is happening with the Judiciary Committee is really is I really I would call it a railroad job. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What is being proposed is simply a sham and a mockery of a full Senate hearing. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shameful attempt to jam this group without giving anyone the time they need to investigate. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, you wouldn't know the attorneys for Kavanaugh's accuser resurfaced today, of course, saying that their client was willing to appear sometime next week, but not Monday, and only if Senators offer the following. Quote, terms that are fair and which ensure her safety. I guess the capital police are not good enough. So what are those? Well, Ford's attorneys want their client to testify before Kavanaugh, and they only want committee members to question, and no outside female council, for instance. Brett Kavanaugh, for his part, says he is willing to appear, saying quote, since the moment I first heard the allegation, I have categorically and unequivocally denied it. I remain committed to defending my integrity. And just a reminder as to how we got here, remember since Christine's name was revealed this past Sunday, Senator Grassley and the Republicans in the Judiciary Committee have bent over backwards to accommodate Democrats and her. They delayed the vote. They offered Ms. Ford a hearing in private. Heck, they're even willing to fly out to California to accommodate her. And what do they get for those efforts? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is so obvious that the committee is not treating her fairly. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's going to end up being a real stain on the United States Senate's reputation. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Women across this nation should be outraged at what these white men senators are doing to this woman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What is the damn rush by Senate Republicans to try and force this? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now it seems to me that those claiming to seek justice are doing everything in their power to avoid arriving at it. As I and many others have said throughout, this process should be delayed no longer. It should not have been delayed in the first place, if you ask me. That is what Ken Starr said on Monday, and I agree wholeheartedly. If Ms. Ford wants to tell her story, let her. And in any environment she feels comfortable. But make her agree to what Kavanaugh did, Monday, and then schedule a committee vote. For more, let's bring in our panel, former U.S. Attorney Joe Digenova, Carrie Severino, Judicial Crisis Network Policy Coordinator, Attorney Scott Bolden, and Byron York, Washington Examiner Correspondent, Fox Contributor, Joe. JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: Well, this is an affront to the Senate. The entire process is a disgrace. To have a witness dictate the terms of their appearance to the United States Senate is an embarrassment to the Senate. And I hope they don't capitulate, but they very well might because Senator Flake has made it very clear that because he is the deciding vote to get it out of committee, he wants certain things done. And apparently, they are going to let him rule the roost. I can only tell you this. There is more news coming out every day about Dr. Ford. The Washington Post is doing a biography on her right now. And in the course of doing so, they contacted, at her request, members of the PGA Tour. One of whom told the Post I don't think you really want to talk to me. INGRAHAM: Scott. SCOTT BOLDEN, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION PAC CHAIRMAN: So what does that mean? I don't think that they're negotiating the terms to the Senate. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: If you were representing Kavanaugh, would you allow the accuser to testify after him? (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: Not my call. I am not chairman of the. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: You know that is ridiculous. She does not want to testify. (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: Are you going to let me respond or are you going to dictate what my answer is? The bottom line is you can negotiate with the Senate. I've represented a lot of people before the Senate and the House. You negotiate. They have not agreed to her terms. But the lawyers are negotiating. I guarantee you right now. The Senate judiciary Republican lawyers are on the phone with her counsel right now trying to negotiate terms. You know why? Because the Democrat - - I'm sorry, the GOP needs her testimony. They do not want to go into the midterms looking like they're railroading this testimony or not. And by the way, what is the rush. This is someone who has been accused of being -- attempted rape, by someone you are going to give a lifetime appointment to. What is the rush? The Republicans are going to be in control no matter what happens till January 3rd. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: So you think that the witness should be allowed to dictate the terms of the committee's procedures? (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: That is what. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: She is not negotiating. She is demanding, Carrie. (CROSSTALK) CARRIE SEVERINO, POLICY COORDINATOR, JUDICIAL CRISIS NETWORK: What is the rush? Senator Feinstein has had her allegation for six weeks. She sat on it that whole time. The Senate Democrats had it for over a week. They did not do anything with it until they leaked it. They were the only ones that had it besides Dr. Ford. They're the ones who leaked it started this whole -- further start this. They -- 24 hours, Senator Grassley treated her with more respect than the Senate Democrats have in that prior entire 6 weeks when hey used her as a political football and just try to time these allegation for their maximum political benefit. He has been so accommodating so far. He said you can do this in public, in private, confidential. (CROSSTALK) SEVERINO: In California, she says she's worried about her safety. He's doing everything. He would do it in undisclosed locations. So he's been very accommodating. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: I want to get into Byron on this. Byron, all week long, we have been hearing complaints that she is going to be questioned by a bunch of old, white, male senators, of Republicans. Now it appears that they want to bring in an outside counsel, which I recommended from the beginning. And it very well might be Beth Wilkinson, who is the attorney representing Brett Kavanaugh. She does not want the visual of a female attorney questioning a female accuser. Byron that is what I think. I think any fair-minded person watching this, after all of these complains about the white men interrogating a woman. Now they have a woman, and they say oh no, we don't want a woman. What is that, Byron? BYRON YORK, CORRESPONDENT, WASHINGTON EXAMINER: Yeah. I think these demands, some of them are really not going to sit well with the committee. I think as far as the demand that Kavanaugh go first, I think the committees answer will be no can do, not going to happen. And on what you just mentioned about only members can question her. No outside lawyer can question her. I think the response of all of the members, certainly all of the Republicans, will be wait a minute. Whose committee is this? On the other hand, on her flat refusal to appear on Monday, I think that could put a lot of pressure on the committee because for Chairman Grassley to stick firm to Monday, I think he would need all 11 of his members, Republican members on the committee, to be with him. And as Joe mentioned, that is where Senator Flake comes in. We will just have to see which side he comes down on, on that one. INGRAHAM: Joe, what is the real reason that Democrats want this to drag out? Is it, you know, for dramatic affect? Are they really searching for justice, or are they really searching for another witness? Because I don't think they are doing their own investigation, which they have the. (CROSSTALK) DIGENOVA: No, no, no. This obviously is a fraudulent exercise in delay. It's -- Scott, please, please, OK? This is not a joke. We are talking about the constitutional confirmation process, which has been disgraced. (CROSSTALK) DIGENOVA: Scott, let me finish. Let me finish. Don't interrupt me. Don't interrupt me. Senator Feinstein and the senator from Hawaii should be ashamed of themselves for their performances. They have traduced and besmirched the United States Senate. This is being done for pure political purposes, for delay, to prevent a vote to put it off until after the election. The Democrats are entitled to do whatever they want. And they are in fact doing it exactly that, with no concern whatsoever for the constitution or the Senate, shame on them all. INGRAHAM: Tammy Baldwin is already sending out a fund-raiser today. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: She's going to do the fund-raiser at the lawyer's office for the accuser. This is taking place in early October, October 1st. Oh, now it is cancelled because they got so much bad publicity. DIGENOVA: It's good to be a Democrat. INGRAHAM: Yeah. So -- but they were already fund-raising off it. So if it is not politics, it's just about protecting a woman, or standing up for women or justice, then why are they fund-raising on this already? (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Tammy Baldwin, a woman. (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: That is this. That every GOP commentator or anyone else presupposes that this is all rooted in politics. But what is disappointing and shameful is no one on the Senate Judiciary Committee who has commented has talked about getting to the truth and the accuracy or justice for this individual, if it is true. It would seem to be that the GOP are making arguments that there should be an investigation. We should find out. Why would you, as a GOP Member, not want to know whether a lifetime appointee that you have the votes to get through, why wouldn't want to know whether he committed this bad act? Why would you not want to get to the truth? (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: I want to know whether it is true. Now you can go vote for him after that if you want. But the Republicans don't want that, because now they have to vote for somebody. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Do you think if someone accused one of us of something from 36 years ago where we had no memory of anyone there, we didn't know the date, even the year, I guess is confusing, and we don't know the location. BOLDEN: Well, how would you feel if I was up for a lifetime appointment and that happened to me? (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: I got to tell you. The FBI investigates old cases all the time. I am not saying you were viably -- you could come to a conclusion. You may not come to a conclusion. But if I was the nominee, I would want the investigation. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: He had an investigation. He's had six FBI background checks, and Dianne Feinstein kept the ace in the hole. (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: She did not want her identity public. What is she supposed to do, publish it anyway? (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: I don't buy it for one second. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: All orchestrated. (CROSSTALK) SEVERINO: The way to do this confidentially would have been to do the proper thing and hand it over for the FBI to look over while it was confidential. Once it was leaked, they did the same thing they did in 1991. They had -- they are investigating themselves. While the Democrats have been out showboating, having rallies saying we did the investigation, Republican GOP Senators that actually been investigating. They have interviewed Judge Kavanaugh. They have interviewed the men who have been identified by her as having been at the party. They have contacted the woman who claimed that she has information on social media, later recanted. But they have gotten after statements after penalty of felony from all those which. (CROSSTALK) DIGENOVA: She wants an independent investigation. (CROSSTALK) SEVERINO: No, the Democrats boycotted those. (CROSSTALK) SEVERINO: The proper procedure, this should be a bipartisan investigation. They would rather showboat about it. (CROSSTALK) DIGENOVA: Remember how the Democrats have claimed that she was outed by the Republicans, and outed 30 days before anything was written about her. Doctor approached the Washington Post on her own and asked to be interviewed as long as they maintain her confidentiality. She outed herself to the Washington Post 30 days before the first story. INGRAHAM: Senator Sheldon Whitehouse said this today on the FBI investigating ford. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Even if they were to ram the sky through, as soon as Democrats get (Inaudible) we're going to want to get to the bottom of this. You cannot ignore a crime victim's claim that something happened, refused to investigate, throw her up into the stand without the least bit of support for her, without the least bit of effort to corroborate what she says. And then walk away from that as if you behaved at all properly. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Byron. BOLDEN: Wow. That is a real threat. I think the reason so many people have concluded that this is motivated by politics is that Christine Ford has offered so little evidence to support her story. Since it was 36 years ago, she has not offered anyone that she told about it contemporaneously, which is one of the big things we look for when someone says something happened a long time ago. In the Anita Hill case in 1991, four people testified that she told them about Clarence Thomas around the same time. And so far, Christine Ford has come up with no one on that. And I think that is something that raises a lot of suspicions on the Republican side, and won't look very good if she still has no other contemporaneous witnesses to talk about when she testifies. INGRAHAM: Have we heard anything -- the President is about to speak, but have we heard anything about why Monday is such a problem? And do we have a dental appointment? I mean what is so important? I mean we have quite a few days after this came out. She is not going to get any support. She has a legion of legal advisors. Apparently, there are public relations people involved. She has a lot of activists supporting her. She has pretty much all of the Hollywood elite supporting her. So I think she gets no support. I am not following that. But what is Monday, what is such a big deal about Monday? BOLDEN: It's an arbitrary date that Grassley picked. There is nothing special about Monday. (CROSSTALK) DIGENOVA: He gave notice one week ago. It is not arbitrary. (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: But required by the Senate rules. (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: But required by the Senate rules. (CROSSTALK) BOLDEN: The Democrats think it's arbitrary if it is a rule. INGRAHAM: Well, it was a Monday. Remember Monday? Her attorneys said -- and multiple appearances that she would testify to get the story forth. She did not say I will only testify on certain days with certain conditions. None of that was specified. I was actually kind of excited to hear from her. I thought it was going to happen on -- I thought it was going to happen maybe on Thursday, because of the holidays. But then it was Monday, I said OK, Monday. Now Monday if, you know, mother may I spin around twice. BOLDEN: One thing is that she's willing to testify. What is really important though is that Grassley will not let any other witnesses for either side to testify. And I think that is really important. INGRAHAM: As we had a confirmation hearing, you might've seen it. It was three days long. BOLDEN: But the background check didn't come up with this individual. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Because they wanted to drop it at the 11th hour. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: OK. Everybody stay there. The President has just come up to the podium and he's about to address the crowd in Nevada. Let's listen in. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Hello, Las Vegas. How are you? How is everybody? We love Las Vegas. Thank you. And I am thrilled to be back in Nevada. You always have to say that name just right. With thousands of proud, hardworking American patriots, the people of Nevada love our country. Honor our values and always respect our great American flag. And except for a lot of the fake news that you see from these people back here, this is an incredible time for our country. America is winning again. America is being respected again, because we are finally putting America first again. We have the best economy in our history. And I have to tell you this, if our opponent got into office, which would have been a very sad, sad period of time. Instead of your -- it is a pretty sad day, isn't it? Don't worry. It is going to all get better. But if our opponent got into office, your 401Ks, instead of being up 52 percent in a short period of time would have been down 52 percent. That is what was going to happen. That is what was going to happen. That is where it was going. Wages right now are rising, and poverty is -- you see it, poverty is plummeting. Jobless claims just hit a 50 year low, 50, 50. And the stock market today just hit another all-time high. We are fighting every day for our factories, our ranchers, our great miners, our farmers. And we are now the largest producer of energy in the entire world. And it is not by luck. We are rebuilding our military. We are crushing the terrorists. And we are taking care of our great veterans. We're taking care of our veterans, first time in a long time. We have also just identified the first remains of our fallen warriors from North Korea. These incredible heroes can now lay at rest in American soil. A lot of progress being made on North Korea, a lot of progress, do you remember, before I came in, it looks like we were going to war with North Korea. Now, we've made a lot progress. Relationships are getting better and better. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And we have our hostages back. And there is no more nuclear testing. And there is no testing of missiles and rockets over Japan. We are doing well. And we are getting our remains back. Very important. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: We believe no American should be left behind. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: So, we have midterms coming up. And you remember when we had that great, great election, almost two years ago, can you believe it? (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And you remember the tears from the fake news media when it was obvious that we were going to win. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And you know what, they are still crying. Look at them, they are still crying. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: They are still crying. And let them cry. They don't know what the hell happened, but it happened, and that is why we are setting all-time records, that's why we are doing so well. But we have to get out for the midterms. Promise me, you've got to get out for the midterms. Don't be complacent. You've got to get out for the midterms. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: You've got to vote. You've got a vote, we need more Republicans. When they say we have a majority, it's like this. It's like this. If somebody has a cold, we don't have a majority that day. It is like, we have to have more Republicans in office. We'll get everything we want so fast. We've got to have them. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: So tonight, we are joined by some really terrific friends of mine and Republican leaders from the great state of Nevada, including two great candidates for Congress. Cresent Hardy. Cresent, where is Cresent? (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And somebody that has been supporting me a long time, and he has shown such incredible stamina and loyalty and friendship, and we have got to get him to win this race. Danny Tarkanian. Danny? (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Thanks, Danny, what a great guy. Thank you, Danny. And Danny, thank you for everything. You really are -- you've done a great job, thank you, man. They are going to get you in. Vote for Tarkanian. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Also, your next governor, a very popular guy in these parts, with a great family, Adam Laxalt. Adam? (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And another friend of mine who really was outstanding, because you know, I have a little, to use an interesting word, bias for this area. I love this area. You know the word "bias"? They have been talking about bias, their bias. Yes, there was a lot of bias, you know that. But I have bias for this area, and also for our great GOP chairman, Michael McDonald. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Finally, I want you to please welcome the person that we are all here for tonight. Now, I have to say this, we started out -- we weren't friends. I didn't like him, he didn't like me. And as we fought and fought and fought, believe it or not, we started to respect each other. Then we started to like each other. Then we started to love each other. And the fact is, and the fact is, he has been a tremendous supporter ever since I won the election. He has always been there. We can count on his boat. Wacky Jacky will never vote for us, folks. Never. She is wacky. She is never going to vote for us. You can count on his vote for Second Amendment, for tax reductions, for regulation cuts, four judges, oh, look at our judges. Oh, what is going on? (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: You know, one of the reasons I was elected was because you believed that I was going to pick great Supreme Court justices. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And Brett Kavanaugh. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And I'm not saying anything about anybody else, but I want to tell you that Brett Kavanaugh is one of the finest human beings you will ever have the privilege of knowing or meeting. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: A great intellect, a great gentleman, an impeccable reputation, went to Yale, top student, went to Yale Law School, top student. So we have got to let it play out, but I want to tell you, he is a fine, fine person. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: So -- and he has got tremendous support, I can tell you that. Tremendous. Just like Neil Gorsuch, who is now on the Supreme Court, has tremendous support. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: So we'll let it play out, and I think everything is going to be just fine. This is a high-quality person. And a man that agrees with that, and right now his vote is more important than mine because he has to help Brett get in, and I tell you what, he respects him just like I respect him. But with Dean, we can count on him. With Jacky, she is never going to vote for us. She may talk it, she even says -- a lot of the states where they like a Trump, these candidates on the other side, they get up and taught nicely about me, but they are never going to vote. They say Trump's wonderful, we like him a lot, I won the state by 34 points, and they get up and they say we like him a lot, he is great, he is wonderful. But they're never going to vote, so it doesn't matter appeared. I would rather have them say bad things about me and give us their vote. They are never going to vote for us, because they are voting for Nancy Pelosi. They're voting for -- (BOOS) TRUMP: They are voting for the new de facto leader of the Democratic Party, Maxine Waters. (BOOS) TRUMP: And they are voting for crying Chuck Schumer, crying Chuck. (BOOS) TRUMP: Whereas your incredible senator, Dean Heller, is going to be with us all the time. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Come on up here, Dean. Come on up here, Dean. (APPLAUSE) LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: And we're going to get back to the rally in just a moment as Senator Heller takes the stage. But first, New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand seemingly revealing the game that it is not so much about justice, but more of a political equation for the Democrats. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND, (D) NEW YORK: She told a friend a year ago, she told a reporter before Dr. Kavanagh was ever named. These are the hallmarks of truth. These are the hallmarks of someone who wants to be believed because she fears that if this person is confirmed, he will do terrible things for American women. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: But as I have often noticed, women are not stupid. They are not politically monolithic, they have brains of their own, and they are also mothers to sons, wives to husbands, and sisters to brothers. So check out this new poll. It speaks to that. According to a YouGov/"Huffington Post" survey, men are more likely than women to believe Ford's allegation. The panel is back with us. Carrie, your reaction to those results? I think it's women are more likely than men to believe Ford's allegation, correct? Oh, it's not. It's that way. The panel is back with us. Your reaction to where this whole thing is going here? SCOTT BOLDEN, FORMER NEW YORK PROSECUTOR: I look at that poll. The poll has a very limited number of folks who responded. And it is early. We don't know all of the facts, and we haven't even have the hearing yet. But I will tell you this. Having prosecuted as well as defended many of these cases, I can tell you when picking a jury, I like to pick men because they tend to be more sympathetic toward the complaining witness who, nine times out of ten, are women. Women know women, if you will. And so I'm not surprised at the early poll. I would like to see it after these hearings and after both people testify. INGRAHAM: Carrie? CARRIE SEVERINO, FORMER LAW CLERK FOR JUSTICE THOMAS: I think it's no surprise. When you look at the number of things that attests to his credibility. He's got all the women who knew him at the time, who dated him at the time. This is nothing like the guy we know. He has got all of the people -- everyone who has been named, and they've tried to search for people on both sides. They all say her story doesn't make any sense. So it's not surprising. Maybe women do know women. INGRAHAM: Let's go to you, Joe. This is Barbara Boxer who brought up the woman thing today, not surprising. Remember, she was elected -- we'll get to it in just a moment. We are loading that in. But Joe, when you look at how this has unfolded from the beginning, it was a rush to say we just want to get our truth out, which I understand. Let's say politics wasn't part of this and someone really did want to be remaining anonymous -- I don't actually believe that story, but let's say that was the fact. It is OK. Let her testify. I think the president played it really smart. Let's let her -- let's hear from her, let's hear from Brett Kavanaugh. He actually said take as much time as you need. He said that, and then I thought, OK, well, is Grassley really going to take as much time as we need to determine whatever truth we can arrive at? Maybe the president is not where the Senate is, he wants more time, is that possible? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: I think that that is all show. None of that is for real. They have to do with they have to do in order to keep Senator Flake and senator Collins on board, so they're going to give it more time. They're not going to allow her to testify after Brett Kavanaugh, that is lunacy. And the demand that they do so is of course an obstructionist move in order to delay the proceedings. So the bottom line is this -- the longer this drags on, the worse it is, not from Brett Kavanaugh, but for Dr. Ford, because -- INGRAHAM: Democrats are betting the other way. DIGENOVA: I know they are. INGRAHAM: They're betting that the longer it goes he's sunk. And I'm concerned about the longer -- I never like these delays. DIGENOVA: I don't want it to go long. I want it to end. There needs to be a vote by next week. INGRAHAM: Donald Trump is walking back to the podium. Again, we'll come back at a proper pause. Let's rejoin. TRUMP: Thank you, Dean. And Dean really is a champion -- and I can tell you, I work with him. He is a champion for our workers, our families, and for our veterans. And we have to keep him, he led the charge in Congress to pass the most significant veterans' reforms in half a century, including the V.A. Accountability Act. You know what that is. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: That means people in the V.A. are accountable. If they don't treat our veterans well, if they don't do a good job, if they are sadists, and you have that, if they steal and you have that, we say sorry, but you are fired. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Before, you couldn't do that. You couldn't do it. Now you can do it. That's been 45 years they have been trying to get it. It doesn't sound like much. It's everything. So much. And most importantly, 46 years, V.A. choice, this is where a veteran has to wait long periods to see a doctor. No longer. They now go to see a doctor. If there is online, they do not have to wait 12 days, for 20 days, for 40 days. They go see a doctor. We pay for the doctor and they get taken care of. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: They get taken care of. And Dean has led the effort in Congress to fully fund Veterans Affairs. It is a big deal. And he has been really great, he really has. So I just want to say, there has been no better friend. We started off slow, but we ended up strong. I have had no better friend in Congress than Dean Heller. So thank you. Thank you. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: We've got to elect Republicans. That means our great congressmen, potential congressmen, and we have to get Dean, to fight for Nevada, to fight for our heroes, and to help us make things honest around here. You know what is going on. So we are going to drain the swamp. Drain the swamp. CROWD: Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp! (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Early voting, so important. Early voting starts in exactly one month, October 20th. So you can vote early, but you have got to get out and vote. And remember this, Dean's Democrat opponent, wacky Jacky, Jacky Rosen -- (BOOS) TRUMP: She doesn't get it. Jacky Rosen is bought and paid for by her donors, 100 percent. She doesn't even want to go a debate with Dean. She doesn't want to debate. I said hey, Dean, when is the debate? And he said, she won't debate me. That's not good. That's not good. Rosen doesn't represent Nevada's values. She represents the extreme liberal values of her out-of-state donors funding almost 90 percent of her campaign. (BOOS) TRUMP: But even that, just so you understand that, she is going to do whatever Pelosi and Schumer tell her to do, OK? It doesn't matter. (BOOS) TRUMP: Every one of them, they come in and they say, we want to be bipartisan. They never vote for us. Jacky Rosen voted no on tax cuts. You know that. She voted for the disaster, which is really being changed rapidly. You know we got rid of the individual mandate, the most unpopular thing. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: The disaster known as Obamacare. Jacky Rosen voted against Kate's law. (BOOS) TRUMP: And she voted in favor of deadly sanctuary cities, which nobody wants. (BOOS) TRUMP: And Jacky Rosen voted against the V.A. Accountability Act. How do you do that? How do you do that? (BOOS) TRUMP: So she really, if you think about it, she voted for criminal aliens against veterans, for criminal aliens against citizens of our country. That is where she is. You don't want that. You don't want it. A vote for wacky Jacky is a vote for the extreme agenda of those people. That's Pelosi, Schumer, Waters. It is a vote for more taxes. Seriously, it is a vote for more taxes, more crime, and more onerous regulation, which stops everything from happening. We cut regulations more than any administration in the history of our country, and I did it in less than two years. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: And it is one of the reasons that you have all of those jobs. It's one of the reasons you can now go out and look for another job if you are not happy, because everybody wants to hire you, and you are getting higher wages for the first time in 21 years. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: The new platform of the Democrat Party is radical socialism and open borders. (BOOS) TRUMP: And I won't allow the United States of America to become the next Venezuela. (BOOS) TRUMP: That is what they want to do. CROWD: Build that wall! Build that wall! Build that wall! TRUMP: So we started the wall a year ago. We've done a lot. We've rebuilt a lot of sections of wall at San Diego and a lot of areas. We are starting a big, brand-new section. We spent $1.6 billion, then another $1.6 billion. Unfortunately, sadly, because of the Democrats' obstruction, only $1.6 billion -- it sounds like a lot, but it is not when you're talking about what we are talking about --$1.6 billion was just approved. I'm not thrilled, but after the election, they are all telling me we are getting our wall the way we want it. So let's see what happens. Let's see what happens. Let's see if they produce. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: In this election, and by the way, we want to that wall. We want that wall. You know where I am. I could knock it out, because I do that while. That's what I do well. I build. We could knock that wall out in one year if they gave us the funds. I'll tell you what, though, if you look at a Schumer and these people, even though they know you need the wall -- they all voted for the wall in 2006. They voted for border security. And then they found out oh, gee, maybe from their standpoint, they can't do that, but they all voted for it. Hillary Clinton voted for it, right? Remember her? (BOOS) TRUMP: But I'll tell you this, I'll tell you this. Everybody knows. CROWD: Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! TRUMP: How is our Justice Department doing? (BOOS) TRUMP: So, they all wanted the wall. We are going to get the wall. But it would be a lot easier if you get Republicans in there to vote, please, OK? A lot easier. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: Because the whole agenda -- on bigger things, we can get. You've seen what we have gotten. We got a $700 billion to rebuild our military. We then got $716 billion to rebuild it second year, $716 billion. But their whole agenda, they know we want the wall, they want to oppose it. They want to obstruct it. They want to resist. You know that campaign, it is called resist. Honestly, they're lousy politician, their policy is terrible, but they are good at sticking together and resisting. That is all they can do. (BOOS) TRUMP: And you are witnessing it right now, we're going to be victorious. You watch. You watch. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: That is all they are good at, resist. You see the signs resist, resist. We are for building great economies, they are far resisting. That is what it is all about. But this election, you have to vote for candidates who really know what your heart says, what your values are. You have some great, great Republican candidates, and a lot of people think that I am always angry at congress. I'm angry at Democrats because of what they are doing to our country. I'm angry at Democrats because of what they do to our country. Today's Democrat party is held hostage by leftwing haters, angry mobs, socialist fanatics, deep state bureaucrats, and their fake news allies. That is their best partner. That is their best partner. (BOOS) INGRAHAM: All right, everybody, let's get some final thoughts from the panel on the Kavanaugh confirmation battle. Joe, I want to go to you, then we're going to go to Byron. The Judiciary Committee was supposed to get her statement by tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. Kavanaugh apparently has turned in his documents, but they are still debating about whether they are going to have this hearing, I guess tomorrow or Monday or not? DIGENOVA: She will not turn in a statement because she cannot turn in a statement, because her story is indefensible, which is why she wants Kavanaugh to testify first, which is why she wants the FBI to conduct an investigation so they can tell her what she is supposed to say. This is a joke. She is absolutely unreliable as a witness, and tonight come all over the country, PGA Golf tour members are talking about her. INGRAHAM: We are going to learn more about that. Scott, tomorrow is the date we were supposed to find out whether she would testify for sure on Monday. They said no, yes, but with these conditions. What is your best guess on what is going to happen? BOLDEN: Now that she has agreed to testify under certain conditions, they will continue to negotiate. I think the Senate committee is going to have to push that date back because remember, this is all about independents and women, and how they're looking, whether you like it or not, they are going to be on the spot to do that. Who goes first? I think Kavanaugh goes first, probably. But in the end, this is about finding out the truth. And the Senate GOP and the Dems are going to be hard-pressed however they shape this hearing to try to get to the truth. The thing to watch is are witnesses going to be brought to corroborate or do the opposite for them. INGRAHAM: Carrie, do you think that they would in any way allow the accusations to go after Kavanaugh? SEVERINO: That would turn 800 years of legal precedent on its head. That is not how -- you have to make the allegations before you could possibly refute them. So they have been trying to accommodate her every way they can. But this is just another step looking -- it is delay, it's delay. It's moving the goalposts, and now they've moved them so far that it doesn't even resemble due process. So this is about smearing a good judge. INGRAHAM: Can we play the Barbara Boxer, do we have that? Yes. OK, just one second, we are going to play it. I think that if they do that, they will allow him to rebut. They will allow Kavanaugh to rebut. He will be a great rebuttal witness. But it's risky, I think it's risky. This is what Barbara Boxer said. I saved this for you, Joe, because it's been a long hour, OK? Here we go. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARBARA BOXER, (D) FORMER CALIFORNIA SENATOR: There is a hostility towards women. When you have Lindsey Graham saying that Dr. Ford was involved in a drive-by shooting when she is speaking from her heart, through her post- traumatic stress to talk about that incident that she can't get out of her mind. When Dean Heller says it is a hiccup, when we have a Supreme Court nominee on the line, and someone accused him of having tried to rape her, where are the Republicans? I would say they're hostile. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So it's a hostile work environment for the accuser to testify, meaning bring in outside counsel. Then you do not have to look at these horrible Republicans up there. You can just have, probably a woman, ask the questions. It seems like they keep shifting the argument. Bad male, white male senators, and then an accuser. Bring in a woman to do the questioning. I don't know, to me, that is actually a pretty good compromise, but maybe not. DIGENOVA: Well, I think Senator Boxer represents a kind of thinking that is really kind of a disgrace to the Democratic Party. The inflammatory language, the nonsensical statements about Senator Lindsey Graham, one of the most reasonable, nice, polite, gentlemanly members of the Senate, to hear Senator Boxer refer to him that way is really quite embarrassing. By the way, I'm for calling in outside witnesses. I want all the PGA golfers who have anything to say about her brought into testify. INGRAHAM: So you say going to the character of the accuser is a winning position. DIGENOVA: She has put her character at issue. INGRAHAM: Do you think any of these Republicans will go down that road, Joe? DIGENOVA: Absolutely not. But bring in those golfers. (LAUGHTER) DIGENOVA: Bring in those golfers. INGRAHAM: We are going to learn more about that. Everyone is wondering, they're like Googling. DIGENOVA: It's PGA. BOLDEN: I think what Barbara Boxer is really talking about, what they said about having a decision, bring him in already or to confirm him already, I think she finds that highly offensive. And I do too as a Democrat because I do think the search for truth ought to be a priority over politics for both Dems and Republicans. DIGENOVA: I couldn't agree more. INGRAHAM: Let's say Republicans woke up tomorrow, Grassley wakes up and he's like, let's do an investigation. How long should that last, do you think? BOLDEN: Because it's 40 years and memories fade and witnesses die, I'll tell you, it shouldn't take more than three to seven days, if that, because they have the information, they've done the background check already. And I've got to tell you, the U.S. attorney's office has a sex crimes unit that are really, really good. Joe knows that. INGRAHAM: Where's that DNA? DIGENOVA: We do have a great office. INGRAHAM: Yes, but we've got no blue dress. We've got no blue dress. DIGENOVA: But you've got to send in the golfers first. SEVERINO: If they were interested in the truth, they had six weeks. DIGENOVA: Exactly. SEVERINO: They could have a lot to look at. This is just a politicized smearing of a candidate. BOLDEN: What is the rush? INGRAHAM: Confirmed, yes or no, in the end, is he confirmed? BOLDEN: It depends on how that hearing turns out. He has a good a shot because if they can hold the GOP, he's good to go. INGRAHAM: I'll take that as a yes. DIGENOVA: Yes, or they lose the Senate. BOLDEN: They're going to lose the Senate anyway. INGRAHAM: Great panel. Live coverage of President Trump's rally continues with Shannon Bream, and I'm taking up only nine seconds of her time. Load-Date: September 21, 2018 End of Document Democrats Dismiss Presumption of Innocence to Malign Kavanaugh; Trump Declassifies Key FISA Documents; President Trump Has Already Ordered the Release of Declassified FISA Documents Involving Carter Page that Eventually Led to the Russia Probe; Democrats Want to Delay the Confirmation Hearing of Judge Brett Kavanaugh by Saying that THEY need to See the FBI's Investigation First on the Events Concerning the Allegations of Christine Blasey Ford Against the Judge Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 19, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7229 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Ed Henry, Tammy Bruce, Jeanine Pirro, Gregg Jarrett, Kristin Fisher Guests: Joe DiGenova, Devin Nunes Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Tucker, thank you. And hi to Paula Jones, too. I have known here for many years. Interviewed her many times. Welcome to HANNITY. This is America at a precipice tonight. This is an important night. Tonight, all elected officials in Washington, D.C., have an opportunity for more importantly an obligation to protect your rights, uphold the values of our Constitution on every important issue that we now face. We have people on the left in this country, Democrats in this case. They are putting politics first, sadly, the country and the Constitution second. I'll explain in detail. Running roughshod over the whole principle that we all hold dear, the presumption of innocence. We have many on the left convicting Judge Kavanaugh tonight of one of the most serious crimes, implying he doesn't have a right to be heard or believed. Zero presumption of innocence. Zero due process, a despicable, disgusting rush to judgment, what is borne out of pure partisan politics. And we will prove our point. And now, the Senate Republicans attempt to investigate serious allegations. They are being stonewalled. They are being blocked at every corner, even after every single right consideration is being offered to Professor Ford tonight. All of this is to obstruct, disrupt, upend justice in America. It is the left's playbook to destroy the Trump agenda. And on Monday, the president ordered important FISA documents declassified, as is his constitutional right. Again tonight, he is facing not only a wave of obstructionism. Democrats, they seem to want to precipitate an absolute constitutional showdown. They are openly defying the president's constitutional powers. They don't want government transparency. They don't government accountability. They don't want to see that what they have been doing behind the back revealed. All right. Stay tuned. We also have a big announcement at the end of the show tonight. But it's time for breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. We are now on day seven of the controversy that is swirling around the confirmation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh. A professor from northern California named Professor Christine Ford is accusing Judge Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct from when they were both in high school, 1982. I have said many, many times on this program, these allegations must be taken seriously. Senate Republicans are doing just that tonight. They have delayed this week's confirmation vote. They have reopened the hearings. They have invited Professor Ford to tell her story before the committee open or closed door session. They have reached out by phone, by e-mail and more for background. They are handling this with the utmost care and professionalism as they should. And the Senate Judiciary Committee has even offered to fly their staff anywhere in United States to meet with Professor Ford for a private interview. And on Monday, Professor Ford's attorney told fake news CNN her client would testify under oath. That she wanted to tell her story publicly. We have the videotape. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Will your client be willing to testify in public to the Judiciary Committee? BRENDA KATZ, ATTORNEY FOR CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD: The answer is yes. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: But here we are two days later, Professor Ford is refusing an invitation to testify. She is now demanding through her lawyer, she wants a full FBI investigation in claims first. And, of course, the U.S. Senate, they don't control the FBI or what they choose to investigate. Advise and consent, it is the constitutional role of United States Senate. Not the FBI. Also, we know the FBI stated publicly the allegation does not involve any federal crime. Now, the Senate can only perform their own probe. Unfortunately, they are now tonight being stonewalled. Politics is in play. As of tonight, Dianne Feinstein, she will not even show Senate Republicans on the committee the full unredacted letter that Professor Ford sent to Democrats when she first made her allegations in July. And now according to the Judiciary Committee chairman, Charles Grassley, the letter to Ford's attorneys the committee, they are having a hard time reaching Ford. Quote: Committee staff has attempted to contact you directly by phone, e- mail several times to schedule a call at a convenient time for you and your client. We thus far have not heard back from you with regard to that request. And Grassley's letter reiterated the invitation to appear before Congress. Quote: You have stated repeatedly that Dr. Ford wants to tell her story. I sincerely hope that Dr. Ford will accept my invitation to do so either privately or publicly on Monday. And despite every effort from Republicans to accommodate Professor Ford, which I think is the right thing to do, her attorney is calling Monday's hearing, quote, not fair nor in good faith. And earlier today, Senator John Kennedy expressed his frustration. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JOHN KENNEDY (R), LOUISIANA: We have done everything we can to try to accommodate Dr. Ford. Either her or her lawyers keep moving the goalpost, which is a little frustrating. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And Senator Susan Collins of Maine who I don't always agree with, is saying it's not fair for either Professor Ford not to testify on Monday. She said it's not fair to either side. Take a listen. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) SEN. SUSAN COLLINS (R), MAINE: I think it's not fair to Judge Kavanaugh for her not to come forward and testify. Both of them need to testify under oath next Monday before the Judiciary Committee. (END AUDIO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, Senator Collins is right. It is so important to know that senator's time frame is identical to the time frame that Joe Biden set up when the left did this to Clarence Thomas. It's important that we hear from Professor Ford. But also, Judge Kavanaugh deserves the presumption of innocence. And, by the way, considering it was 36 years ago, we have 36 years of his life and people should be able to testify about his treatment of women over nearly four decades -- classmates, colleagues, ex-girlfriends, female law clerks, any of the 65 women who signed the letter supporting the outstanding character, people that knew him back in 1982. It's important that America get this right. This is something that the president rightly emphasized earlier today. Take a listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I really would want to see what she has to say, but I want to give it all the time they need. They are already given it time. They have delayed a major hearing. There is no more -- look, when I first decided to run, even said the single most important thing you do is the Supreme Court justice. OK? We have all heard that many times about a president. I would say this. I think he is an extraordinary man. I think he is a man of great intellect as I have been telling you and he has an unblemished record. This is a very tough thing for him and his family. We want to get it over with. At the same time, we want to give tremendous amount of time. If she shows up, that would be wonderful. If she doesn't show up, that would be unfortunate. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, like every American, Judge Kavanaugh deserves the presumption of innocence. It's his constitutional right. This is not a game. Sadly, it's obvious tonight. The left is playing politics trying to derail Kavanaugh's nomination, even if it means unfairly impugning his character, forever rushing to judgment. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, it is definitely attempted rape. I don't see it any other way. SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: I think it's appalling. I'm totally disappointed that all the people who have come forward to say we should hear from her and now that she is expecting a modicum of fairness so she is not revictimized are now saying, look, if she doesn't want to testify, we should just go ahead. That is additional callousness from my colleagues that I am totally appalled by. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When I see what the Senate Republicans are doing today. Yesterday they seemed tentative and nervous. And today, in insisting in a bullying manner that Dr. Ford proceed with the hearing on Monday. I think they are trying to scare her. SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: I think what the Republicans are doing is outrageous. They are creating a false choice. They are trying to bully her into testifying on Monday before a full FBI background check is completed. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think that she is the one who is taking tremendous, tremendous risk in coming forward. I think she is saying, let me have a fair shot at this. Don't put me in front of a bunch of men on the Judiciary Committee who already predetermined what the outcome should be. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That would be the left. People said from day one, Chuck Schumer said from day one he will stop him with whatever needs to happen, you know, the so-called least funny comedian on television, Joyless Behar, she even took it a step further. This is really dangerous. Take a listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOY BEHAR, COMEDIAN: I grew up that men are supposed to protect you from the predatory males. And they're not doing that. On the contrary. These people in Congress right now, and that Senate judiciary committee, these white men, old by the way, are not protecting women. They are protecting a man who is probably guilty. If you are not, Judge Kavanaugh, take the lie detector test. Prove it the way she did and the Anita Hill did that they were not lying. Let's see that from you. Or are you a coward? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No presumption of innocence. This is sad. And sadly, Democrats everywhere are echoing what you just heard from Joyless Behar. Take a listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This woman is to be believed. You can believe Dr. Ford. This was attempted rape. This is a woman who exhibits, Dr. Ford, courage, but the classic signs of post traumatic stress. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: I believe her. Listen, first of all, anybody who comes forward at this point to be prepared to testify in the United States Senate against someone who is being nominated to one of the most powerful positions in the United States government, that takes an extraordinary amount of courage. HIRONO: Not only do women like Dr. Ford who bravely come forward need to be heard but they need to be believed. They need to be believed. SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: Let me just say right at outset, I believe Dr. Ford. I believe there is a survivor here. There is every reason to believe her. She has come forward courageously and bravely. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Does anyone give the chance that maybe you can believe Judge Kavanaugh? The constitution be damned? We lock him up and throw away the key. From what happened in 1981, one person, the people say just the opposite about Judge Kavanaugh. How about due process? How about listening to both sides? This is what the Democrats are willing to do sadly tonight if it means obstructing the nomination of Judge Kavanaugh. And his children are watching, in case you're interested and his wife. In fact, Democrats don't even want a serious investigation in these allegations. You just heard what Senator Gillibrand just said. They just want Kavanaugh blocked. Whatever it takes. Kirsten Gillibrand herself, she is not even interested in a hearing from Kavanaugh next week. Doesn't want to hear what he has to say. Take a listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GILLIBRAND: This is a sham hearing. I don't think she should participate in it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So, she and the rest of the Democratic colleagues have ulterior motives now starting to backfire. Americans are catching on. They know that Dianne Feinstein sat on Ford's accusations for weeks. This is back in July. She had this information. She never asked Kavanaugh about it during the private meetings with him, during his public testimony, written questions, over 1,300 written questions. Not one about this. But they knew about it. Now, all of a sudden, according to Dianne Feinstein, Senator Gillibrand, other Democrats, this is so pressing. Kavanaugh's confirmation must be derailed regardless of whether or not the accuser ever even comes forward and tells her story. In a letter to Senator Feinstein today, Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley summed up the situation best. He said: Sexual assault allegations should not be deployed strategically for the political gain. He is right. And what we're seeing right now is just another sad chapter in what is sadly the Democrats' predictable playbook. We see it every four years, two and four years. Republicans are racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, they want dirty air and water, they want to kill children, and they want Paul Ryan look-alikes to throw granny over the cliff. You see it every election season and also during every confirmation hearing just like you are seeing now. Smears, slander, lies, character assassination, no due process, no presumption of innocence, conviction by allegation. Of course, we have every reason to be skeptical tonight. This is the same party of Keith Ellison. See that guy there? Well, he just got his party's nomination to run for the attorney general in the great state of Minnesota, all while, this is happening currently, his ex-girlfriend is accusing him of domestic, physical and emotional abuse. She tweeted this week that the Democratic Party did not believe her claims despite what is out there including a doctor's report that she had told in 2017 indicating abuse. Instead she tweeted the DNC, quote, smeared, threatened and isolated her. So, where are the same Democratic senators demanding FBI investigations into him? This is not 36 years ago. This is today. This is the same Democratic Party of Senator Brown. He walks the halls of Congress despite domestic abuse accusations made by his ex-wife. For some reason, she politically supports him but the record is the record. And don't forget Professor Ford's attorney. We cannot ignore her record. Debra Katz is a long-time Democratic activist. She has donated tens of thousands of dollars to Democrats. But more importantly, her track record in previous cases on issues of sexual misconduct allegations when they were made, well, let's show you what she said about Paula Jones. Paula Jones' suit is very, very weak. She alleged an incident took place in a hotel room by her testimony lasted 10 to 12 minutes. She suffered no repercussions in the workplace. The allegation was that Bill Clinton pulled down his pants and told her to perform a sex act. Then she said of Jones' accusation, quote, clearly a one time incident that took place in 10 to 20 minutes. She was not forced to have sex. She left on her own volition. The courts increasingly are finding that this is not enough to create a sexually hostile work environment. On top of that, Katz also defended creepy Senator Al Franken. Quote: Context is relevant. He did not do this as a member of the Senate. He did this in his capacity of someone who was still functioning as an entertainer. But he was a senator at the time he did it. Now, this is highly, bitterly partisan. An attorney clearly, obviously has inconsistent views on this topic to advance a political agenda. It's sad. And, of course, no Democrats ever demanded an FBI investigation into Paula Jones. She won a settlement of $850,000. Juanita Broaddrick accused Bill Clinton of rape. Kathleen Willey accused Bill Clinton of groping, grabbing, fondling, touching against her will. Yet many of the same senators that are there today all sanctimonious, rushing to judgment, selective moral outrage tonight -- they lived on all things Clinton, women that were smeared, slandered by the Clinton machine, selective moral outrage, obviously pure politics. And as you can see, we have every reason to be skeptical about the Democrats. Otherwise, they would be saying the same things about Keith Ellison. Otherwise, they would be saying OK, where is the investigation in Juanita Broaddrick's charges? They are playing politics with the Kavanaugh nomination. They are playing politics with the government accountability on top of that. In other news tonight, we told you Monday, President Trump ordered the department of justice to declassify and release unredacted important documents. Pages 10 through 12, 17 through 24 of the final FISA renewal application on Carter Page, all FBI reports on Bruce Ohr's Russia interviews with Christopher Steele, all reports on Carter Page interviews, thousands of the Strzok-Page texts and Comey, and McCabe and Ohr, and Steele and other people involved in this. The president is the commander-in-chief. He is also the leader of the executive branch of government, coequal branches of government, separation of powers. He has the clear constitutional authority in the Constitution to declassify information. Article 2, Section 1 of our Constitution reads, quote: The executive power shall be vested in a president of the United States of America. The DOJ and the FBI are under the president's executive power. He is in charge of and constitutionally he alone can determine the issue of classification. Not unredacting things. According to the Supreme Court, Navy v. Egan, quote: The authority to declassify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine flows primarily from this constitutional investment of the power of the president. Both Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton used their authority to declassify information. Obama declassified hundreds of CIA records in 2015. Former President Clinton declassified thousands of confidential documents surrounding the military. But according to top Democrats tonight, President Trump has no authority to declassify these important FISA- related documents. We got shifty Schiff is calling it an abuse of power that it will put the country at risk. He joined three other Democrats demanding to be debriefed on the declassification before anything is released to public. John Brennan and others are calling on bureaucrats to defy the rule of law, the clear intent of the Constitution and disobey a president's direct executive order on this and not release the documents. That will precipitate a massive constitutional crisis. As they try to take power constitutionally away from your elected president. This is extraordinarily dangerous. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's a terrible precedent to have a president trying to make his own personal defense by playing with intelligence. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is quite lawless of the president to selectively declassify. You know, he is only putting forward to the American people what he believes helps him completely and recklessly risking sources and methods who could be put at risk and have their lives at risk. JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: I think Christopher Wray, the director of FBI, and Dan Coats, director of national intelligence, as well as Rod Rosenstein, who is overseeing this investigation should push back against any directive that will have a negative impact on our abilities as well as the investigation. So I think they should continue to push, push, push. If Mr. Trump and the White House does not relent, well, then, I think they have decisions to make, whether or not they are going to just not follow that direction and be fired, or to resign. But if they really believe that this is going to have serious impact on the national security, law enforcement and judicial process, they have an obligation because they took oath of office to Constitution of the United States. Not to Mr. Trump. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: What you're witnessing here -- this is why it's so dangerous -- deep state operatives trying to precipitate constitutional crisis in the country because they don't want to be exposed. Meanwhile, one former corrupt official is now facing a grand jury investigation. Former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, oh, he's got a new book out in December. Here is the title, "The Threat: How the FBI Protects America in the Age of Terror and Trump." Oh, that means to defy the will of the American people, abuse power, use the tools of the intelligence against the American people? We have long told you, your federal bureaucracy was biased, corrupt, only at highest level. Not rank and file. Former deputy FBI director in this is the perfect embodiment of this fact. They literally will precipitate a constitutional crisis and try and deny the constitutional authority that is so clear for the president and the executive branch. Now, look, if we want the deep state development to continue you have to focus on the election, 48 days from tonight. All we have until this crucial, the most important midterms in our life. There is a glimmer of hope tonight, a new poll. Only 4 percent ballot gap in the generic ballot. Earlier this week in Texas, special state Senate election, Republican beat a Democrat in that district for the first time in 139 years. Ted Cruz is now up by nine points in latest polling, 139 years. Look, I'm not confident tonight 48 days out that the Republicans will keep the House. I'm not sure they will hold the Senate. I don't have a crystal ball. We cannot be complacent. The only way that will turn is if you take your responsibility to vote seriously. If you want the Trump agenda to continue. Do you like the extra money in your paycheck? Is America's economy better off than it was two years ago? Are we more secure tonight as a country? Do you want the president you elected to continue on the path of keeping his promises for a better economy, forgotten men and women left behind in the Obama years? Thirteen million more people on food stamps, 8 million more in poverty. Forty-eight days, you decide. You get to vote. You have the power. You get to stop the insanity of the left. I hope you are energized. The president is getting things done. He's not slowing down. All right. We've got to take a break. When we come back, Judge Pirro, also, Tammy Bruce, and a lot more, coming up. Joe DiGenova, straight ahead and an important announcement. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now live where things stand on Capitol Hill concerning Judge Kavanaugh and his accuser, FOX News chief national correspondent Ed Henry is with us tonight. Ed, a lot of breaking news. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Sean. Breaking tonight, a new statement from an attorney for Dr. Ford saying she will not testify on Monday, in part, they say because there are only going to be two witnesses scheduled, Dr. Ford and Judge Brett Kavanaugh. The problem with that approach, of course, is that the other potential witnesses who have come out, other schoolmates of both of them have said they do not have first knowledge that any such incident happened. So, what White House officials believe tonight is that both Dr. Ford legal team and Democrats on the Hill trying to move the goalpost, that when she spoke to the "Washington Post" over the weekend, she said she wanted to be heard. Republican Chuck Grassley saying tonight he is trying to make sure Dr. Ford is heard on Monday. That's they want her to testify. Instead they think that Democrats have pushed FBI investigation that will never happen as a delaying tactic, that will push this past the midterms. The key tonight is that three key Republicans who are the swing votes, you see them there, Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, Susan Collins, are all saying that Dr. Ford should testify on Monday. Corker saying if she doesn't show up, the Senate should move forward to vote on Kavanaugh. Collins, a pivotal woman in the Senate, saying, quote: It is my understanding that the committee offered to hold a public or private session, whichever would make Dr. Ford more comfortable. That contradicts a claim by some Democrats today that Dr. Ford is somehow being pressured or forced to testimony. Chairman Grassley making clear he is doing everything to make this as easy as possible. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CHUCK GRASSLEY (R-IA), CHAIRMAN, JUDICIARY COMMITTEE: Where I'm focused right now is doing everything that we can to make Dr. Ford comfortable with coming before the committee either in an open session, or a closed session or a public or a private interview. That's four different ways she can choose to come. SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: It rings true. How she divulged it, who she's divulged to overtime, over many years, that's exactly what happens when someone has this kind of trauma. And so it brings true and so we need a proper, professional, appropriate review and hearing and what they are forcing on her right now I think is inappropriate. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: Now Senator Mazie Hirono of Hawaii, remember, yesterday she said men should, quote, "just shut up." She seem to revealed the Democratic playbook by telling Politico "Since Republicans blocked Merrick Garland from the high court for almost a year, if Kavanaugh fails the Democrats may hold the seat open for two years beyond the 2020 election." Republicans I spoke to today say that's such an overreach. They think it shows that Democrats are getting desperate in this debate. For the first time, the Republicans privately feel good about Kavanaugh's chances in terms of weathering the storm but nobody is willing to predict that, Sean because there's been so many twists and turns and there more could be coming. HANNITY: All right. Ed Henry at the White House tonight. Thank you. Joining us now with reaction, Fox News contributor Tammy Bruce, author of the New York Times bestseller "Liars, Leakers, and Liberals," Judge Jeanine Pirro is with us. My understanding is that you remember this in a couples therapy session in 2012. I'm watching Senator Grassley. They are offering every accommodation. Public or private. Even though the attorney said she would be glad to speak publicly under oath. But they are saying publicly or privately they will come to you. And I think it's right to do it that way I said to myself. JEANINE PIRRO, FOX NEWS HOST: You know, the amazing part of this, is that they are offering her more than your victim would have in a criminal courtroom. They are offering her privacy. They are almost offering her the ability to dictate who will speak with her and question her. But she is no different than any other victim. What we want to know is the who, how, when and where. We don't know when it was. We don't know where it was. HANNITY: She doesn't know the year. PIRRO: We don't know how she got home. She doesn't know the year. She doesn't -- and we don't expect peripheral facts. HANNITY: Right. PIRRO: What we expect is the fundamental recitement of what happened and she can't give us that. And what she wants is more rights than other victims have in criminal courtrooms across the country. HANNITY: And they have -- Senator Grassley haven't even turned over the unredacted letter from July. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: So, all of a sudden, glad to speak publicly under oath. Now there is a list of conditions and it's growing every day. It's interesting the timeline is the same as Biden set up for Clarence Thomas. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: It sure is. So, look, we've heard that song before. The fact is, Dr. Ford and the Democrats have been in complete control of the timing from the beginning. Haven't they? Starting with when they decided to reach out to eschew and then to Feinstein and the Washington Post hotline. So they've been in control of the timeline. So this argument that she is being bullied and in this rush of a hearing is absurd. I would posit that in fact she has been mislead, that Dr. Ford is in fact perhaps not in charge of any of this at all. I think she was likely promised something that she wouldn't have to testify. I think Dianne Feinstein thought the accusation alone would knock this nomination off of its seat. And that's what they expected. She is finding, the doctor is finding and they are all finding they were wrong. And now you know what they are doing, they are infantilizing her and they are re-victimizing her by saying she is emotionally not prepared, she is being bullied. She can't do it. She is afraid. And repeated comment about attempt rape, assault. This woman now after dealing with this and creating a very strong life, top of her field, a family. A strong woman is now being revictimized by the framework of rhetoric and we should all be upset by that and certainly offended at the least. HANNITY: I am worried guilt by accusation, I am worried about a rush to judgment. I am worried about no presumption of innocence. I am worried this will now follow Judge Kavanaugh, just the allegation, for the rest of his life. His young daughter -- do we not give anybody a chance? I believe her. I will tell everybody I don't know. PIRRO: Look, every-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Because I wasn't there. And neither was anyone else. PIRRO: Every prosecutor understands when you investigate, prosecute, try and sentence these individuals that everything is at stake. Their civil liberties, their reputation, their character. And what we have here is on the part of the left, they are basically saying we don't want to have true justice here, we want everyone to believe her from the get-go. But I ask you this. Number one, what in Brett Kavanaugh's background suggests in any way, shape, or form that he disrespects women? What in his background for the women that work for him, dated him, went to school with him, none of this has ever shown up. And they want to accuse him of putting his hand over her mouth, of attempted rape as if they know what that is. We are not even close to that in terms of the facts that are alleged. BRUCE: If I-- (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: In the end, what we have are accusations and we should believe them and not give him a right to speak. BRUCE: And if I could add with your whole opening which is brilliant, what they are also doing is they're saying only a certain kind of woman matters. Only if you pay allegiance to the liberal point of view and the liberal narrative will you be taken seriously. Conservative women do not count. They are making this a partisan issue. Now if you are facing domestic violence, a sexual violence, rape or harassment, that, of course, transcends politics. What they are doing is they're dismissing an entire category of American women. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Keith Ellison, their love of Clinton. Is there going to be an FBI investigation-- PIRRO: Of course not. HANNITY: -- for Juanita Broaddrick? BRUCE: Of course not. HANNITY: He fell in this now none of these senators have-- (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: That is a local crime. It depends on whether the accused is a Republican or a Democrat. If it's Bill Clinton he can accused of rape or sexual assault and these women shouldn't be believed. But Brett Kavanaugh that needs to believed. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I will say this about the Republicans and I'm very critical of Republican. Every accommodation, the president too, every accommodation rightly is being offered. (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: They've done a very good job in this regard. HANNITY: But I also will say Brett Kavanaugh does deserve the presumption of innocence. BRUCE: Absolutely. He is entitled to it. HANNITY: Everybody is. BRUCE: She can only really be taken seriously and in our system of the presumption of innocence works on behalf of even so that we can believe everyone. HANNITY: I got to thank you both. When we come back, Gregg Jarrett, Joe DiGenova. Later, the House intel committee chair Devin Nunes and we have a big announcement at the end of show. You're going to want to hear it. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with more on the Democrats' effort to derail the Kavanaugh nomination. Author of the New York Times number one bestselling book, "The Russia Hoax," Fox News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett. Also in studio a rare appearance, U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., Joe DiGenova. You have done great work for me in the past. I have a lot of people that hate me. Good see you, my friend. JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY, COLUMBIA: Good to see you. HANNITY: You and Victoria are very strong people and great lawyers. You watch this unfold. I've really truly believe in the process that people are innocent until proven guilty. That is a fundamental right of ours. That is being tossed to the wind. DIGENOVA: Of course it is. HANNITY: I also agree that the Republicans have taken it seriously and that they are giving Professor Ford every accommodation, which I think the right thing to do. DIGENOVA: Have to under this circumstance. They have given her an opportunity to testify after these horrendous process which Senator Feinstein has hoisted on the Senate and the American people in a complete abrogation of senate responsibility. This is one of the great shameful moments in the history of the Senate and she should be ashamed of herself. And so should every Democrat on the committee. Not just but because of what they are doing to Judge Kavanaugh but what they are doing for the Constitution. HANNITY: What about Bork, what about Clarence Thomas? Like just every two, four years in elections, Republicans are racist and sexist and they ran through all of this, and throw granny over the cliff. DIGENOVA: The Democrats care about one thing, power. That's what this is about. And they are trying to delay a vote on this nomination so that it does not occur. And the Republicans must not let that happen. Because if they do not confirm Judge Kavanaugh they will lose the Senate. HANNITY: Senator Collins, I don't always agree with her. She said it's not fair to either side. She is right. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Right. And the explanation we are getting from Christine Blasey Ford doesn't make sense. Citizens don't get to demand a federal investigation. There is nothing in the law or the Senate rules that give a witness a right to insist on an FBI investigation as a-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's not a federal crime. JARRETT: -- as a condition precedent to testifying. It's baffling to me that Ms. Ford was more than willing to sit down to the Washington Post and tell her story without demanding that they conduct an investigation, yet, she will not sit down and talk to the Senate judiciary committee unless there is an investigation. Whatever the FBI might or might not find should have no bearing on her ability to simply tell the truth. HANNITY: Let me ask you about another issue that is a constitutional issue. I can't believe that article two, section one of or Constitution, the president is in charge of the executive branch. He has asked to declassify and he's asked for unredacted information. FISA warrants 302s. We have former CIA directors and current members of the House and the Senate saying defy the president's constitutional authority. They are doing that tonight. Shredding the Constitution. DIGENOVA: And there is reason for it. Because they have much to fear. Because Mr. Brennan, Mr. Clapper, Mr. Schiff is covering up for them. Mr. Schiff is a co-conspirator in an effort not only to undermine this president but to destroy this president and violate the Constitution by subverting the election. He knows that what was done prior to the election and after was criminal conspiracy with Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Strozk, Page, Baker, McCabe-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Ohr-- DIGENOVA: -- everybody involved in it. And what they are doing now is they don't want any of this information to come out because if it does, and as it comes out gradually, it will show categorically they engaged in a criminal conspiracy to frame a sitting president of the United States. HANNITY: Will these people be indicted? DIGENOVA: I expect that ultimately they will. HANNITY: All of them. DIGENOVA: Al of them. HANNITY: Gregg, what do we expect when we get this information? JARRETT: I'm told the information will come out next week. But in trenches, that is groups. Slow drip, drip, drip. I'm also told that Dan Coats, the DNI, as well as Christopher Wray the FBI director and Rod Rosenstein who has much to hide and cover up here by virtue of his own-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Signed the last FISA warrant. JARRETT: -- misconduct will still redact some portions in defiance of the president's order. If they are in good conscience feel like they cannot do it, they should resign. In the alternative, the president should fire them for insubordination for refusing a direct order. HANNITY: This is a very scary time because the Constitution is clear on executive power. (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: Article two, section one defying the first sentence. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Defying the president of the United States is a scary time. You guys have been amazing. Thank you both. Congrats on the book and congrats - - you're one -- I don't want to ever be on the other side of you. You're pretty tough. All right. When we come back, Kristin Fisher has the latest on the president's order we're just talking about to declassify the FISA documents, the 302s. Then we will speak exclusively to the House intelligence committee chairman, Devin Nunes. Also we have a big announcement that is about tomorrow. That is straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Here with the very latest on President Trump's order to declassify FISA documents in the Russia probe, Fox News correspondent Kristin Fisher. You know, I thought just a week or so ago. Kristin, that we had Spartacus. Spartacus believed in openness and transparently. Where is Spartacus now? Anyway, how are you? KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: I'm great. Excellent question, Sean. But you know, President Trump, he is continuing to defend his decision to declassify those documents. He is even putting it on par with what he considers to be the administration's top accomplishment from tax cut to rolling back regulations. He said in an interview with The Hill, quote, "I hope to be able to put this up as one of my crowning achievements that I was able to expose something that is truly a cancer in our country." But Democrats say the material which includes a FISA warrant and text messages from former senior FBI officials is simply too secret to make public. They are also accusing him of trying to discredit an investigation in which he himself is a subject. Quote, "President Trump and the White House should not be given access to any given sensitive law enforcement or national security information related to an ongoing federal investigation examining conduct by the president, his campaign or his associates." But keep in mind, the Justice Department said that it's already started to comply with the president's order. Though, Sean, it's still too soon to say exactly when those documents might be released. HANNITY: I'm hearing it might be next week by my sources. Kristin Fisher in the Washington Bureau tonight. Thank you. Joining us now exclusively is the chairman of the House intelligence committee, Congressman Devin Nunes. On the issue of challenging the president's executive authority it is clear constitutionally. Article two, section one, gives the president unfettered authority overall executive branch matters. The executive powers will be vested in the president of the United States. This isn't even a question, is it? REP. DEVIN NUNES (R), CALIFORNIA: It's quite clear, Sean. Thank you for having me on again as usual. This is quite clear. This is not complicated. We have seen most of this information. In terms of the FISA it's only 20 pages. All you have to do is make a copy and send it out and put it on the internet. So at this point I don't understand why it hasn't been declassified. The president said declassify it immediately without redaction. HANNITY: Is there any national security concerns? NUNES: No. We have heard this same story over and over again. The same people that are out there that are running around saying, there are national security concerns with this. We are going to reveal some sources and methods happen to be the same people who are involved. They are either covering it up for their agency or they are involved. And that's totally unacceptable. And this is why we have to continue to get this message out to the American people that have been force fed this Russian Kool-Aid. This is just Russian Kool-Aid that was force fed on the American people for two years. Two years, Sean. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Mr. Chairman, let me ask you this. You said that declassification will explain the Strzok-Page insurance policy. Explain that and what else will we learn that you can tell us from when we get the unredacted information? NUNES: Well, we believe the insurance policy that many people know about that was text -- that was around August that there were text messages on that. August 16. We -- a lot of people believe that that was actually the FISA itself on Carter Page. We actually don't believe that. We believe they were very concerned about the dossier. We believe they know they were trying to snooker the FISA court and fool the judges. And they needed something else. And so James Comey has called it a mosaic of facts. We need to see the rest of those facts and that's what we want released. HANNITY: And Lisa Page said for nine months they were not able to find anything and then we learned about a media leak strategy that seems to now be coming together, isn't it. Do you believe people in the highest levels of the FBI and the DOJ committed crimes against the United States and tried to undo presidential election? NUNES: I think many crimes could have been broken. I have said this numerous times that I don't know how DOJ and FBI investigate themselves because they are all implicated in this. I'd like to see them do that. But they are not taking action on it. As it relates, I want to make another point. The text messages between all of them and the next messages they were sending, you don't get to send out classified information on your cell phone. It's not classified. If it's classified, then right there and then they should be held accountable because they broke the law if they were sending classified information over cell phones. So that should be declassified immediately. HANNITY: Right. NUNES: So, look, I don't know that I believe some of the news stories that are out there. However, many news reporters have now said that they are stalling. That people within the DOJ and the FBI are stalling on purpose. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That's what I'm hearing. And you will release the key Russia deposition before the election. I only have a second. NUNES: That is correct. Yes. HANNITY: All right, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for being transparent. We appreciate it. All right. Huge announcement. Don't go anywhere. HANNITY: All right. Tomorrow we will be broadcasting live from Las Vegas. President Trump is slated to hold a rally in Vegas in city. And we will be there to cover it. We'll be doing the show from the actual arena where the president will be giving his address. Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Judge Jeanine Pirro will all be on set with us from Vegas. And the president will join us for an exclusive interview. That's tomorrow 9:00 Eastern, all happening right here on HANNITY. We're always fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues as busy news night. Laura Ingraham in the swamp. Load-Date: September 20, 2018 End of Document Democrats Attempt To Obstruct And Resist The Kavanaugh Nomination; Kavanaugh Accuser Calls For FBI Investigation Before Testifying; Poll Reveals Complacency Among GOP Voters Ahead Of Midterm Elections; One-On-One With Secretary Of State Mike Pompeo; Interview with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo; Writers Argue over Sexual Orientation of Bert and Ernie; Video Released of State Department Employee Discussing Resistant to Trump Administration Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 19, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8176 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Raymond Arroyo, Matt Schlapp Guests: Bill Gavin, Gregg Nunziata, Gayle Trotter, Frank Luntz, Mike Pompeo, Dan Bongino Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, HOST, FOX NEWS: That's tomorrow, 9:00 Eastern, all happening right here on HANNITY. We are always fair and balanced. We're not to destroy Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues this busy news night. Laura Ingraham in the swamp. LAURA INGRAHAM, HOST, FOX NEWS: OK, Hannity. Can you do me a favor in Vegas? HANNITY: Yeah. INGRAHAM: Can you do me a little favor? HANNITY: Sure. INGRAHAM: OK, roulette wheel. I need you to bet on 19, red. HANNITY: Nineteen, red. How much do you want me to bet for you? INGRAHAM: I don't know, just like $20. HANNITY: How about 100? Go big. INGRAHAM: Nineteen -- HANNITY: I'm going to videotape the whole thing. You can air it on your show. INGRAHAM: I know you'll take it. It's a 19, red. HANNITY: Nineteen, red. INGRAHAM: Yeah. And then -- OK. I want you to do that. And I want to know this. How do you get to go to Singapore for a week, and then you're like your first big trip after that is Vegas? I understand you're taking in Donny and Marie. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: -- Helsinki and Great Britain and then I went in the middle of an anti-Trump rally and nearly got, you know, in a fist fight. INGRAHAM: No, you are going to see Donny and Marie, what else? Come on. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: No, I'm going to see Carrie Pater (ph), my buddy. I love the concerts in Vegas. INGRAHAM: Are you a little bit -- HANNITY: I love In-N-Out burger. It's my favorite. INGRAHAM: I have a question. Are you a little bit country or you're a little bit rock and roll? HANNITY: I'm all country. Heart and soul. INGRAHAM: OK. Good. I'm rock and roll. HANNITY: Oh, good grief. INGRAHAM: All right, Hannity. Great show tonight. HANNITY: Have a great show. INGRAHAM: Have a good trip tomorrow. Welcome to "Ingraham Angle." I'm Laura Ingraham on yet another busy night here in Washington. We have an exclusive very big interview tonight. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo sat down with me for a rare interview to discuss, among other topics, whether John Kerry, Obama's former secretary of state, broke U.S. law by meddling in our foreign policy. Plus, he will offer his first reaction to an undercover video where a State Department employee suggests that there is a resistance inside the administration. Oh, goodie. And Raymond Arroyo is here with a seen and unseen, I actually can say, for the ages. Here it goes. What is Roseanne's death, the sexuality of the Muppets, and Jack Black all have in common? We'll find out. Plus, Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff employ a last-ditch effort to stall the president's order to declassify certain documents and texts related to the Russia investigation. So, like I said, what are they afraid is going to come out? But we begin tonight with the very latest on the fast developing Brett Kavanaugh fight. The calls began early this morning. The message for the Kavanaugh resistance was clear. And it began with an appearance by the ghost of a confirmation past. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, ANCHOR, ABC: They wanted an FBI investigation before she testifies. Is that the right move? Should the Senate honor her request? ANITA HILL, CLARENCE THOMAS ACCUSER: Absolutely it's the right move. The hearing questions need to have a frame. And investigation is the best frame for that. JENNIFER RODGERS, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: I mean the FBI is good at this. They do cold cases all the time. They can, in a matter of probably days, figure out whether there is corroboration for Dr. Blasey Ford's account. DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: It would be helpful. Judge Kavanaugh came forward and said, I would prefer and have a background investigation by the FBI. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, my god. I think one of them want to examine the facts (ph). I'm sorry. God bless them. But -- we are going to get to that. Amazing how none of them now want to examine the facts. So, we're going to do that. Now, just last night, we had a former high level FBI agent tell us that the Democrats are trying to use the FBI as their "political animal" against Kavanaugh. The FBI doesn't like that much. If testimonials like that aren't enough, our own John Roberts reported today that a current highly placed law enforcement official is saying that there will not be an FBI investigation into the allegations leveled at Kavanaugh, and here's why. First, there cannot be a criminal investigation. There is no crime alleged where the statute of limitations has not run out. There are no allegations of a federal crime. And third, the only investigation the FBI does is the background investigation. They find the info and pass it on. That's already been done in this case. They don't investigate the information. The law enforcement source went on and tell Fox News "this is a political issue, not a law enforcement one." Boy, is that true? Isn't it just the politically inclined advancing this narrative? Their favorite media cheerleaders are piling on. Take NBC's Ken Dilanian, who tweeted this afternoon, "a number of former prosecutors and FBI agents have said today that people who make up allegations tend not to demand that the FBI investigate them." He, of course, not the only one advancing this narrative, but there is one problem in this contention. Ford hasn't actually stated that she is willing to talk to the FBI. She just wants Kavanaugh investigated. Do you think that might be kind of an important fact or detail? Late this afternoon, Senator Grassley seemingly at wits end over this whole charade, submitted a letter which was scathing to the Judiciary Committee Democrats, slamming their persistent "abuse of this confirmation process through delay and obstruction with every argument available." Here to shed more light on this is former assistant director of the FBI, Bill Gavin. Bill, it's great to have you on tonight. You were called out, by the way, by Ken Dilanian, which we will play in a moment. But your reaction to where we stand now with this drumbeat for FBI involvement. Bill? BILL GAVIN, FORMER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF FBI: Laura, I just -- I am amazed at this whole thing. Number one, everybody is calling for an investigation. An investigation of what? There is no predicate offense for the federal government in the form of the FBI to conduct any investigation. An investigation if there was a rape or sexual assault should have been done by local authorities and everybody knows that the statute of limitations has ran on that now. That's number one. Number two, background investigations, it's over, it's done. Now, could the White House conceivably say, we like you to open it up again? They could, but it's not going to happen. In this particular case, what could come from opening the background investigation again? You go out and interview who? Number one, the alleged victim has been offed by Senator Feinstein where she produced a heavily redacted letter that really hints at something that nobody knows what happened. Number two, Judge Kavanaugh has already given his point of view. Number three, his friend has already alleged, I have no knowledge of anything like this, nor would I think that Judge Kavanaugh would do anything like that. This is -- what they are trying to do is put the FBI at the jackpot. It's a no win situation for the bureau. You go out and nothing is found. They're going to say, you didn't do your job, you're only supporting the contention. INGRAHAM: I got to say, Ken Dilanian from NBC, it took you to task on that analysis. I want to play it for you and then, Bill, get you to react on the other side. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KEN DILANIAN, INTELLIGENCE AND NATIONAL SECURITY REPORTER, NBC NEWS: My sources are frankly presenting another view than the one you just heard from Bill Gavin, which is that the FBI absolutely could investigate this, not as a criminal matter, but as part of their role background checking federal nominees. But they can only do that if the White House asks them to look into this allegation. And if the White House did ask them to do that, they will be perfectly capable of shedding some light on this. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So this is the rub. It's the president. It always goes back to President Trump. If President Trump really cares about women and to protect women and cared about sexual assault allegations, he would demand that the FBI -- I guess go back and, you know, again find every house with a pool in Chevy Chase, Maryland or something and then try to get these old Georgetown prep kids to rock their brains about, you know, some keg party 36 years ago. But (INAUDIBLE) put this on Trump. Is there any validity to that point? GAVIN: No, there is no validity to that point at all. No, what he said, you could dig up? Who you are going to dig up? There is nobody that can tell you anything at this particular point in time. And then he said something about the fact that you could put them under oath. You don't put anybody under oath in a situation like this. You obtain the facts, feed them to the White House and to the Congress, and let them do what they want. You know, it just seems to me -- INGRAHAM: This is political. That's all it is. GAVIN: Enforcement business. That's all they are trying to do, is delay the vote and do it any way they possibly can. I probably shouldn't be sitting here and saying that, but that's the exact way I feel, and that's what is going on here. INGRAHAM: Bill, it's the way a lot of Americans feel tonight. Thanks so much for being here. The American justice system, the burden of proof should be on the person leveling the accusation. In the case of Brett Kavanaugh, it seems that his political opponents want it the other way around. Take this, for instance. Late last night, a second corroborating witness came forward with a letter to Senator Chuck Grassley's office. Patrick J. Smyth, who attended Georgetown Prep with Kavanaugh and believes he was the person labeled P.J. in the account Ms. Blasey Ford gave to "The Washington Post," he vehemently denied that the party she described ever happened. He further vouched for Kavanaugh's character. Now, this huge development received very little pick up in the more dominant so called mainstream press, and even by CNN who broke the story. So, the question here is why? Hear what their answers are. Gregg Nunziata, a former chief nominations counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee, along with Gayle Trotter, an attorney and spokeswoman for the Judicial Crisis Network. Gregg, let's start with you. Your reaction tonight to the latest development, specifically, again, the attempt to kind of -- word "weaponize" but it is kind of weaponizing the FBI in what has clearly become a political calculation for the Democrats. GREGG NUNZIATA, FORMER CHIEF NOMINATIONS COUNSEL, SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE: That appears to be what is happening here. It's painful for me to watch. I used to supervise the background investigation process in the Senate Judiciary Committee. There is a process there. It's confidential. It keeps the politics out of it. It keeps the cameras away. It gets to the bottom of allegations like this. It is designed to avoid politics and to get to the truth. And the Senate Democrats here clearly chose to go another way and to make it about politics in a way that is very unlikely to yield any truth. INGRAHAM: Gayle, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, who has been a big champion of the "Me Too" movement, spoke out today with a lot of passion. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: They are creating a false choice. They are trying to bully her into testifying on Monday before a full FBI background check is completed. Without the benefit of the FBI investigation where it is not partisan and objective and without the benefit of corroborating witnesses being able to testify, it's a sham hearing. And I don't think she should participate in it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Should not participate. Sham hearing. A couple of days ago, they were asking for her to testify. And she again uses the phrase "background check" which again (INAUDIBLE) applying for a federal job. You don't do a background check as part of this type of process. So, I can't believe she is a sitting U.S. senator. Again, sure she is a nice person, but I can't believe she even uses those phrases. A lack of basic knowledge about the process. GAYLE TROTTER, ATTORNEY, SPOKESWOMAN, JUDICIAL CRISIS NETWORK: It's legal illiteracy. I mean, when you talk about that Judge Kavanaugh has already passed six of these FBI investigations, they were -- INGRAHAM: Background checks. TROTTER: You look at what happened with the accuser this week. Her lawyers went to "The Washington Post" to tell the story. Then they said they would let her testify. Then less than 36 hours passed and they said that she wasn't going to. I think Senator Grassley and his team should be commended because they have said, we will fly to California, we will fly anywhere, we will do something public, we will do something private, we will do whatever she wants to do so that she can get her story out there, because they want to take her seriously. And yet I think the fact is this is a partisan smear and attempt to delay. And it's all falling apart. INGRAHAM: Senator Mazie Hirono who has also been very vocal on this, she spoke out as well. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: The latest being a letter from the chairman to the Democrats saying we have done everything we can to contact her. That is such (bleep). I can't hardly stand it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: According to Senator Grassley's office, they have made several attempts both to contact her lawyer, phone calls. I think the total of nine different attempts at communication. Eleven total actually now. So, they have been trying. But again, you can't -- they can't even agree on whether Grassley's people would be trying to -- that is so -- the courts are trying to get in touch with her. But, I mean, they know Grassley's number too if she wanted to testify. Correct, Gregg? NUNZIATA: Correct. The Democrats and their staff have refused to participate in the investigation efforts that are going on right now. They are not taking part in the interviews of Judge Kavanaugh about these allegations. They are boycotting everything. So, to take the position that somehow the Republicans are not taking these allegations seriously, it's the Democrats that sat on the allegations for weeks, and now the Democrats are obstructing any effort to look in the community (ph) process where it is suppose to happen. INGRAHAM: And Gayle made this point. Gregg, I really want you to (INAUDIBLE) on the set. Senator Grassley -- President Trump said we want to hear from her today. He said we want to hear from here. I thought that was really good. TROTTER: Yes. INGRAHAM: He said -- I would like to get this done. He said take as much time as you need. He seems to be be even going farther than Grassley did. TROTTER: Yes. INGRAHAM: Grassley said we will do it on the phone, interview on the phone, interview in person or in private. You know, we will do, a conference call. I don't know what else they can do at this point. NUNZIATA: Chairman Grassley has been incredibly accommodating and patient in the face of lots of antics from the other side. Beyond that, he is one of the senators who is most well known for his commitment to investigations and oversight. He has a team on the committee that is very experienced in doing these sort of things. He is trying to do his job which I can't say to be true for everybody else up there. INGRAHAM: Gayle, again, the other so-called corroborating witness, this Patrick Smyth. I think Smyth might be Smith. He said he never seen any type of behavior like this on Brett Kavanaugh's part. But he was in the notes. So, every person she cites this other judge character, both of them are actually opposing her view on it. This case is falling apart. TROTTER: Right, and I think you have to take the overwhelming amount of evidence that anyone who knows Judge Kavanaugh, and there are so many people who do, none of them believe that this is a credible allegation. INGRAHAM: What happens Friday? NUNZIATA: I don't know. We will see day-to-day. I think people on the committee still want to hear from her. INGRAHAM: She has a Friday deadline. That's what Grassley said. Friday deadline. We're going to vote. TROTTER: Hold the vote. INGRAHAM: I would do the vote on Friday. This is game. You got to end the game so they keep doing this. You have to teach your kids a lesson sometimes. You have to teach the senators playing this game a lesson. Thanks to both of you. Great analysis tonight. NUNZIATA: Thank you. TROTTER: Thank you. INGRAHAM: We have seen how this fight is playing out in the halls of Congress. But how are the voters processing all of this? For part of that equation, let's bring in GOP pollster Frank Luntz. Frank, from the people you're talking to, how will this entire Kavanaugh circus play out or if at all as a midterm issue? FRANK LUNTZ, GOP POLLSTER: Based on what that conversation just held, I question whether this will be significant 10 days from now, because it does look like she isn't going to testify. The American people believe in fairness. And they believe that everyone deserves their day in court. They want to hear what she has to say. She has leveled some very strong allegations. But I will tell you that one of the big questions among the men I talked to is how far back are you going to hold someone accountable for the behavior that they did? Is what someone did when you're 17, is that applicable to what someone's life would be when they're in their 50s? Now, for women, the question is, is she going to get her day in court? Is she going to respond to those -- both that support her and oppose her. They want to hear what she has to say. INGRAHAM: I got to tell you, Frank. I got to tell you, from my radio -- I kind of do an informal poll on the radio in the morning. It's very interesting to hear from both the women and men. And this is across the country, every state. They don't like the whole high school thing. Going back to high school, going back these many years. Memory is foggy. People moved on. Unless there was a reputation that was known by everybody, oh, yeah that guy. People don't like it. I think that word "fairness" that you just used, I'm telling you, I think that cuts right to it. And you can't lob these allegations and then expect you are not going to get any questions, because people are being mean to you online. People are mean online. Welcome to the NFL. LUNTZ: You have to be willing to respond. But I tell you, that's why the Democrats have used Anita Hill. Because they realized within 24 hours that this story was turning. That people were starting to wonder why is she backing off. Why -- when you make a claim as significant as this, you're not willing to back it up at that hearing. And so they bring out Anita Hill and that conversation. And what you could have is what happened to Donald Trump in 2016. You know he won a majority of white women. And everyone thought that because of what happened during the campaign, he would crater. One of the reasons why he did is because they thought that he meant what he said. It doesn't mean they liked his language. In this situation, you may see women angry, that they are being used, that they are being scapegoated, that they are being pulled into a political process that they want no part of it. Make no mistake, Laura. Authenticity matters more than anything in 2016, and this doesn't seem authentic right now. INGRAHAM: All right. Thanks so much, Frank Luntz. And up next, we have a big exclusive. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo joins me in a rare interview. He will take on John Kerry's attempts to undermine President Trump on the Iran issue, and his thoughts on Google kowtowing to the Chinese communists. You do not want to miss this. Up next. INGRAHAM: Trump has said of his secretary of state, we are always on the same wavelength. As you will see in my interview with Mike Pompeo, that's apparent. We begin our conversation today discussing Iran and his predecessor John Kerry's wildly destructive communications with the world's largest state sponsor of terror. Here's part one of my interview with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM (on camera): Mr. Secretary, thanks so much for joining us tonight. We really, really appreciate it. MIKE POMPEO, UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF STATE: Great to be with you. INGRAHAM (on camera): Iran in the news. Brian Hook, your special envoy, saying, you know, we want to deal with Iran, but a treaty with Iran. Iranian leaders, no, go. Like, we don't want any dealings with the United States at this point. What is going on? POMPEO: President Trump has been very clear since the time he was running for office that the arrangement that the previous administration put in place was bad for America, frankly bad for the world. And so, I and Brian are working to get Iran to behave like a normal nation. Right? Stop being the world's largest state-sponsored terror. Stop launching missiles through proxies. Stop attacking our embassies. When we get those basic things in place, President Trump made it very clear, we would love Iran to rejoin the community of nations, but their revolutionary seal caused them to be a bad actor and they need to shape up. And if they do, we will get it right. INGRAHAM (on camera): Again, you and John Kerry have gone back and forth on this. Former secretary of state, Barack Obama has met four times with Iranian leadership. And you guys criticized saying that's not appropriate given, you know, (INAUDIBLE) foreign policy here. But he responded by saying, "there is nothing unusual, let alone unseemly or inappropriate about former diplomats meeting with former counterparts. Secretary of State Kissinger has done it for decades with Russia and China. What is unseemly and unprecedented is for the podium of the State Department to be hijacked for political theatrics." POMPEO: Secretary Kerry can't seem to get off the stage. And he has to. When I am the former secretary, I will get off. Every previous former secretary said that (ph) too. It's one thing to meet with your counterparts, it's another thing to do what Secretary John Kerry, Wendy Sherman, Ernest Moniz, frankly the whole gang has done, which is to actively seek to undermine what President Trump is trying to achieve. It's OK to talk with them, but you have to be working for America, working for American foreign policy. They are not. They are working for the foreign policy that is theirs and not the one that belongs to the United States. INGRAHAM (on camera): Our own Dana Perino last week had Kerry on, and he did not deny that he wanted to basically tell the Iranians to wait it out for the next administration. POMPEO: I think everybody in the world is sitting around talking about waiting out President Trump. INGRAHAM (on camera): At what point does the administration pursue some type of legal action against former Secretary Kerry and others from the former administration? POMPEO: I will leave the legal actions to others. I am trying to execute America's foreign policy. They are not only unhelpful but they are acting in ways that are harmful to achieving what is best for the American people. That's my criticism. Stop it. Let it go. You had your day. We think you fundamentally got it wrong with Iran. And we are trying to make it right for America. INGRAHAM (on camera): And reducing the refugee number. That caused great consternation. It's another issue that President Trump campaigned on. Extreme vetting. Security for our country. Down to 30,000 next fiscal year. Bob Menendez, big fan of the administration, called it cruel and short- sighted. Human rights first. Another group, it's an abdication, Mr. Secretary, of our humanity. Your response? POMPEO: America is the most generous nation in the history of civilization. It always has been and it continues to be under President Trump. We want to get it right for the American people. We are taking in over four million legal permanent residents in the last almost two decades now. We continue to take in more people than most countries in the rest of the world. But we got to get the security piece right. We got to make sure that we allow those who are in most trouble, most harm's way to be taken care of in the best place to take care of them near their own country. Those are not hurtless things. Those are things that are kind and caring and descent. It's the way we ought to treat our fellow human beings and that's what we in the Trump administration are committed to do. INGRAHAM (on camera): What does this administration say to the Christian refugees who feel -- many of them abandoned for many years, predating this administration, in Syria, in Iraq and beyond. They can't go to these camps because they are afraid of going to the camps. How do we reach them? How do we get some of them into the country? POMPEO: So, it's an important and difficult challenge. We want to bring all of those who are most in trouble and having the most difficulty in the places in which they reside. Vice President Pence has made this a real priority to ensure that Christians are being treated fairly and equitably in our processes. We have seen some of these issues in these camps. Rest assure that the State Department is working to make sure that Christians are not being mistreated, prosecuted, persecuted or treated in any way that is unfair as they try to make their way into the United States of America. INGRAHAM (on camera): The U.S. commission on international religious freedom lists China and Saudi Arabia. I think Saudi Arabia is number three as the worst violators of human rights. I think about this yesterday. I think of the old Soviet Union and President Reagan, who both of us admire so much. We didn't do that really heavily engaged trade with the Soviet Union, not just because of nukes, but because of what they were doing on human rights. So, how do we justify this huge trading relationship with Saudi Arabia and China, given how we treat the North Korea and a place like Cuba? It seems like there is selective treatment of human rights violation. POMPEO: It's always the case when you are trying to advocate for America's interests, that you have to weigh the relative concerns. It is the case that each country presents its own situation. What I think we have been incredibly consistent on is making sure that we identify. We call out these concerns. I have done it with respect to China. I have done it with respect to every place we find religious minorities being mistreated. We held the first ever religious ministerial (ph) in the very room in which we are sitting here. It was quite an occasion. People from nearly every religion and 80 delegations. This administration is taking religious freedom all around the world, in China and other places, very seriously. INGRAHAM (on camera): A million Muslims in China been detained. Christian churches, crosses being smashed. Churches driven underground. Pastors being imprisoned. And, you know, we have to talk about my good friend, President Xi, it's heartbreaking to so many of us who care about religious liberty. I know this isn't an administration priority, but what do you do? What leverage do we have with China at this point other than what we are doing now with trade? POMPEO: Laura, I'm comfortable we talk about China in other context too. It presents a myriad of opportunities but lots of challenges. You speak of one. This is a non-transparent government. It is still a very centralized government. It treats our intellectual property horribly. It treats its religious minorities horribly. In each of these cases, we have an opportunity. You have seen what the president is doing with trade, to try and make it fair and reciprocal. What we are asking of China is to behave in a way that if they want to be a power that they want to be on the global stage, they have to operate in the way that global leaders have. Frankly, as you point out in the religious dimension, they have not done that. INGRAHAM (on camera): We talked a lot about big tech and relationship between big tech and this administration. But Google specifically in China, assisting Google in developing an app to further censor free expression and the ability of Chinese citizens to get information. Any thoughts on that. How a U.S. company, obviously huge global company too, assists China in that oppression of free expression? POMPEO: Laura, it is personally and professionally troubling to me when American companies behave one way here and another way when they are dealing with China. It gets at the core problem that President Trump is trying to address, which is that China doesn't permit American investors to invest on the same terms that Chinese companies can invest here. Joint ventures. The list is long of the nonreciprocal relationship. The president is trying to balance that. When we get that right, when government gets that right, we can enforce American companies to behave under that set of rules. I want every company including global giants to treat American citizens as well as they treat the governments, some of these despotic regimes. INGRAHAM (on camera): And they hit the administration, President Trump, a couple of days after the election. You've got Sergey Brin up there, brilliant guy, brilliant people, but criticizing this administration's immigration policy when they are assisting despotic, totalitarianism, basically communist regimes overseas. But Trump is the threat? POMPEO: I think we have American foreign policy on the right track on each of the dimensions that you're describing. And when we get it right, when we ultimately see the end results of President Trump's efforts, I think you will see many of these things in a place that America has not seen before. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And later Secretary of State Pompeo will provide exclusive reaction to a new undercover video of a State Department employee hinting at a resistance inside the department. And next, Raymond Arroyo is here. Roseanne is about to die and horribly, on TV at least. And the hidden sex lives of the Muppets? A wild "Seen and Unseen." Stay there. INGRAHAM: It's time for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we explore some of big culture stories of the day. How will Roseanne meet her demise when her formerly eponymous show is rebooted? And why did "Sesame Street" feel compelled to put out a statement about and Ernie's sexuality? To answer these pressing questions on such a big news night, we are joined by Raymond Arroyo, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series, FOX News contributor. Raymond, a lot to get out there. What the heck is going on? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: It's a big news night. INGRAHAM: What the heck is going on with these stories? ARROYO: Well, on "Sesame Street" it's brought to you by the letter "S" for sexualization. A writer, Mark Saltzman, who wrote for "Sesame Street" from 1984 to about 1998 did an interview this week with something called "Queerty" and said this, and we'll put it up on the screen. He said "I always felt that without a huge agenda, that when I was writing Bert and Ernie, they were gay. I didn't have any other way to conceptualize them or contextualize them. The other thing was, more than one person referred to Arnie and I," he and his lover, "as Bert and Ernie." So he was claiming that Bert and Ernie are gay. This has been talked about. We've seen it mentioned since 1969 when these two characters who were roommates on "Sesame Street". INGRAHAM: I just thought they were puppets. ARROYO: Of course, they're famous Muppets. Well, Frank Oz has now come out, Frank Oz who created Yoda and Miss Piggy and Fozzie Bear and was very instrumental in creating these characters, he tweeted out almost instantaneously -- INGRAHAM: Oh, goody. ARROYO: "It seems Mr. Mark Saltzman was asked if Bert and Ernie are gay. It's fine that he feels they are. They are not of course. But why that question? Does it really matter. Why the need to define people as only gay? There is much more to a human being than just straightness or gayness." He went on to say "I created Bert. I know what and who he is." This is a real important -- why does this matter? And why are we sexualizing and politicizing these beloved children's characters? And we see this with Harry Potter. I've even seen it with Pooh and Piglet. Children's characters, particularly as an author, they should be sacrosanct. There's something innocent and beautiful about them. When you try to politicize them, and it tells us something about our culture where we want to be adolescents forever and take these childhood icons and impose our own hang-ups and problems on them, I'm really opposed to that. Leave Bert and Ernie alone. INGRAHAM: So what's Eeyore? I'm just kidding. ARROYO: Oh, stop. INGRAHAM: So what's the next topic? ARROYO: The next topic is Roseanne. In an international this week, and this is connected, interestingly enough. She spilled the beans on how the ABC reboot of her show, "The Conners," will apparently when the show returns in a few weeks, there's going to be some sad news for fans. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What will happen to Roseanne? ROSEANNE BARR, COMEDIAN: Oh, they killed her. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They killed her? BARR: Yes. They had her die of an opioid overdose. So it wasn't enough to just do what they did to me. They had to so cruelly insult the people who loved that family and that show. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: She is obviously impugning the motives here and saying ABC wants to hurt not only her and the character she created, but the audience. She is dying of an opioid overdose. We knew in the reboot that she was taking pills for a knee injury, but now she's an opioid junkie. This is really -- INGRAHAM: This is stupid. They are killing their ratings, that's what they're doing. ARROYO: That's the question. They're going to kill Roseanne off this way. But my feeling is this show is going to die of Roseanne deprivation. Watch. This reboot will never work. INGRAHAM: No, it's other. And actor Jack Black, what is he up to? ARROYO: Jack Black received a star on Hollywood's walk of fame this week, Laura. I know you were ready, had the DVR set. He was moved, he was grateful, and political. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JACK BLACK, ACTOR: I love you all so much, except for Donald Trump a piece of -- Peace out, love you! (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Go eat another cheeseburger. ARROYO: He is promoting a movie "The House with Clocks in its Walls." He's the actor with rocks in his head, I think. INGRAHAM: Wait, wait, the movie is "The Clocks on the Walls?" ARROYO: No, no, no, the house with clocks in its walls. INGRAHAM: It's another -- ARROYO: It's a children's book. INGRAHAM: OK. ARROYO: But again, children were present at this ceremony. Jack Black does a lot of kids programming. And his own children were there. Why would you tape this moment where you are being honored, and if you really despise this person, this president, why are invoking him and using a profanity to tar him at the end? INGRAHAM: But this is all they have. You know what I was watching this afternoon? This is when you know -- ARROYO: Family Feud. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: No. I was watching Judge Judy. I love Judge Judy. No. I was Johnny Carson's interview in 1975 -- (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: Very contemporary. Ingraham is right on top of things. She knows exactly what's going on. INGRAHAM: With Ronald Reagan. ARROYO: Oh, boy. INGRAHAM: Everyone has to watch this. I'm going to put it up on my Facebook page. It is so interesting because late night television was classy. It was funny. Reagan of course was unbelievable. But Carson was just so cool. And it's not nasty. It wasn't nasty. It was interesting. ARROYO: He had charm. They were great. INGRAHAM: Reagan. Nothing touches that today. All they can do is get up, OK, expletives, fine, we all say expletives. But it's not funny. ARROYO: Mount an argument. If you want to convince people, mount an argument. You are a celebrity. But throwing out invectives, it doesn't work. I am with you. Give me Johnny any time. INGRAHAM: I'm doing Yoda, you're doing Johnny. This is only Wednesday. ARROYO: "Seen and Unseen." INGRAHAM: The left is obsessed with learning every detail about Stormy Daniels' love life. But when it comes to one of the most politically combustible issues of our time, they don't care. But Gino and Schlapp on the declassification, next. INGRAHAM: The left is wide-eyed and salivating over every salacious detail of Stormy Daniels's love life. But when it comes to issues here in Washington like the surveillance of American citizens, they don't have much interest. Take Trump's impending declassification of Russia related documents. Now Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff are calling to block the declassification. Eleventh hour obstruction seems to be the preferred tactic of the modern Democratic Party. Joining us now from Florida is Dan Bongino, a former Secret Service agent, and here in the studio with me, Matt Schlapp, the chair of the American Conservative Union. Dan, let's start with you. I know you're not surprised by this. But this is now just so transparent. They are either great actors are they're really worried about what is in these documents. DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Laura, you know what is so comical about this, I'm trying not to laugh, is even the left can't make up their own mind what they want. Laura, do you remember a few months ago, let's go back even six months or so. When the Nunes letter came out and exposed this entire spy-gate, Russia-gate for what it was, do you remember what the Democrats said, Laura? They said, no, no, no, the real information, what we used to target Donald Trump, is in the additionally redacted material. And then when the redacted FISA came out and it turned out they used the dossier, what did the Democrats say again, Laura? No, no, no, next time. It's the redactions that contain the really devastating material about Donald Trump. Let's release it. Then all of a sudden when it got wind of what was actually in the redactions, now all of a sudden, wait, wait, wait. Time out. Throw the red flag on the field here. We don't want to see the redactions anymore. INGRAHAM: It's a threat to national security, that's what they're saying. Eric Swalwell, your favorite, Matt Schlapp, was out there on CNN today making this point. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ERIC SWALWELL, (D) CALIFORNIA: This is quite lawless of the president to selectively declassify. He's only putting forward to the American people what he believes helps him, completely and recklessly risking sources and methods who could be put at risk and have their lives at risk. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He is so smart the way he says sources and methods, like right out of James Bond. MATT SCHLAPP, CONTRIBUTOR, "THE HILL": Do you know what "selectively" means, Laura? That the president, the commander in chief, is going to make responsible decisions about the information that does get out and is made public and the information that doesn't. I am glad he is going to do that. By the way, you talk about the liberals on the Hill that are raising objections about national security. I have journalists, reading about journalists saying this is reckless. When was the last time magazines and newspapers talked about how reckless it was to get information from the government. They will print anything that makes the Army or the Marines or the Navy look bad. INGRAHAM: Bongino has a great point. Now, there is an aggressive lack of curiosity on the part of the American media. Don't give us more information. We don't want to know. Hands over the eyes. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, write no evil. We don't want to know. Schlapp made a great point. This is transparent. Seamless coordination between the Democrats and the dinosaur media. BONGINO: Listen, this reminds me of that "Billy Madison" line. I award you no points. We are all dumber for having this conversation. Laura, the "New York times" outed Stefan Halper. They're the ones that outed the source. They didn't use his name, but they gave you every single identifier outside of his officials and home address so that every single person knew who he was. The "New York Times" outed this guy. Are we living in Bizarro Superman land or like that Seinfeld episode where me does everything backwards? This is crazy. They outed him. INGRAHAM: Guys, real quick, in just moments, part two of my interview with Mike Pompeo is going to air, and I'm going to ask him about this undercover video at the State Department. But there is another video that's been released involving the DOJ and another is going to be release tomorrow. Let's watch this first one. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But are they doing anything to fight against Trump? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. A lot of us talk about it. So most of them are vaguely politically involved, so they might support candidates and do fundraisers, and some of them canvas. And then there's a lot of talk at work about like how we can resist from the inside and there's a lot of pushback. (INAUDIBLE) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Matt Schlapp, it's a little hard to read that script, but we talk about how we can resist from the inside, and there is a lot of pushback. It's lucky because at the DOJ you really can't be fired. I am actually offended most by the valley girl speak of taxpaid salary, but what do you make of this? SCHLAPP: Anybody who has worked in a Republican administration realizes what the real swamp is. The real swamp is Republicans win the presidency but the agencies are populated by people who live in Maryland, northern Virginia, and D.C. who are overwhelmingly Democratic. And in getting a handle on these agencies with your own agenda like the Trump agenda is damn near impossible. And this is something that Trump, he has done so many things I can't believe he's doing. If he could do something to change the system where you could actually fire people who are breaking the law by overturning the will of the voters on the agenda, that would revolutionize America. INGRAHAM: Dan, we haven't independently verified the Project Veritas video, but the DOJ is taking it very seriously, as is, as we'll see in a moment, the State Department. But your reaction to this? It seems like we do have a very active, young resistance inside, burrowed inside our government and the civil service. And they are very bold, frankly, brazen and stupid about how they talk about their political affiliations and activity on taxpayer time. BONGINO: Yes, Laura. This is personal to me. I was a Secret Service agent. I loved my job. I had no personal problem with President Obama but I felt the country was moving in the wrong direction, and I thought it was inappropriate to stay. I left. I would not take the taxpayer dollars anymore. I ran for office, it didn't work out. But I'll give a pat on the back, but if you have a serious problem with the will of the people, because Matt is right. They are not resisting Trump. They're resisting you. The American people voted for Trump. This is your will, and they are collecting your money to do it. Then stop being cowards and just resign, and you have the First Amendment right to go out and be an activist. Get out. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, thank you so much. Next up, part two of my interview with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. What does he think of that shocking undercover video we just talked about in which an employee at his own department talks of a resistance within the Trump administration? His answer, next. INGRAHAM: First the anonymous "New York Times" letter and now it's an undercover video that an employee at the State Department is seen hinting at a resistance within the Trump administration. In part two of my exclusive interview with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, we get his reaction to that and much more. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Russia versus China. There's a lot of focus on Russia because of election meddling, threats to future election meddling, Ukraine, relationship with Europe and trade and so forth. As you see things, who is the bigger threat to the U.S. position in the world economically or strategically, Russia or China? MIKE POMPEO, SECRETARY OF STATE: I often get asked these prioritization questions, and it always makes me a little bit queasy to answer them. They present such different concerns. To rank them I think sometimes sends the wrong message to the American people. Russia has been aggressive. Russia has tried to meddle in our election. Russia under Vladimir Putin remains a bully. We need to push back and constrain them where we can. But longer term, if you're looking at the things that threaten American livelihoods, that put America truly at risk of its continued economic growth, China presents the far greater threat to the United States. INGRAHAM: There was concern from the foreign policy elites, Mr. Secretary, early on and expressed throughout this administration the Trump deem bumbles through these events. They promise a lot but then the deliverables aren't there. Of course, they site North Korea. North Korea is not denuclearizing at a pace that maybe we thought they would and so forth. But what is the real status with our relationship with Europe, our relationship with the North Korean leadership given how things have transpired? POMPEO: I will start with North Korea. We have made steady, albeit slow progress. But we have always known this would take some time. The South Koreans had a successful engagement. President Moon with Chairman Kim just over the last 48 hours where we made another step, where we will get verification of an element of North Korea's program on the ground. That's a good thing. We are moving forward. The relationship between Chairman Kim and President Trump is good. I talk to my counterparts there with some frequency. It doesn't get reported. I'm glad about that. I'm glad we're able to keep that quiet. And so we're making the progress that we need. With respect to Europe, there was a reset that needed to take place in the relationship. We needed Europe to step forward and begin to share the burden of defense for the European countries in a way that they had not done under previous presidents. President Trump is trying to right that ship. We still have an fascinatingly important relationship with Europe and I am confident that trans-Atlantic relationship will always remain. INGRAHAM: Project Veritas, I'm sure you know, released this video. A State Department analyst bragging about his exploits working for the Democratic Socialists of America, typing things after hours and so forth. But it's a concern. Other videos coming out. DOJ employees similarly part of the resistance, perhaps bragging about it. Does this portend more problems of an internal resistance to this administration? Are you concerned about it, and what next in this investigation of this particular employee? POMPEO: I can't speak about the particular case. But rest assured, we are aware of it and we're taking a good look at it. But step back for just a minute. Here's my commitment to President Trump and to the American people. Every single person working at the United States Department of State will be on President Trump's mission. We all have good ideas. We'll all share them. We'll give our best thoughts. But at the end of the day we have a single foreign policy that we're executing, and it's the foreign policy that President Trump is directing. And I want every person all across the United States government to understand he is our leader and we all need to be -- INGRAHAM: But they shouldn't be in this administration. If they are going to working against the administration, they should go probably find another job, don't you think? POMPEO: Absolutely. If this is a mission you can't sign up for, it's time to go do something else for your time. Thank you for your service but we need to be delivering for this president. INGRAHAM: Do you miss the CIA? POMPEO: I loved my time at the CIA. I'm loving my time here at the State Department as well. INGRAHAM: Mr. Secretary, thanks so much for being so generous you're your time. POMPEO: Thank you. Good luck to you. (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: We have a pool. How many other cabinet positions will Mike Pompeo end up assuming? He is one of the president's favorites. Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary, for appearing. And up next, a tasty last bite. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bite. I don't have even your thing. It's Raymond's birthday in an hour and a half. So this is the last bite. ARROYO: Oh, no. I was here to comment on something. Not to -- INGRAHAM: Raymond Arroyo, you are 40 years old. (APPLAUSE) ARROYO: It's awful being 39. INGRAHAM: OK. What are you, 49? ARROYO: Thank you. INGRAHAM: Thanks. You just blew it on my dress. ARROYO: It is a happy birthday. INGRAHAM: Happy birthday, Raymond. Load-Date: September 20, 2018 End of Document Dems Attempt To Derail Kavanaugh Confirmation; Trump Declassifies Key FISA Documents; A Group Of Women Now Coming Out To Defend Judge Brett Kavanaugh's Integrity, Of His Reputation Against A Professor Who Is Accusing Him Of Sexually Harassing Her During Their High School Years; Democrats Now Pushing Back To President Trump's Decision To Release The Unredacted Details From The FBI And DOJ That Says The Details About The FISA Warrants Application; President Trump Sat Down With The Hill's John Solomon Where He Gave His Opinion On A Wide Variety Of Issues About The Democrats' Tactic Against His Supreme Court Pick, The Declassifying Of FISA Documents, And A Lot More Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 18, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7909 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Catherine Herridge, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Ed Henry, Kristin Fisher Guests: Lindsey Graham, John Solomon, Leslie Fahrenkopf Foley, Monica Mastal Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: The swap is tuckers and the sewer is tuckers, and I'm in New York and I pay all the taxes. It's great. Perfect deal. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Exactly. Thank you. HANNITY: All right. Tucker, great show as always. And we have so much breaking news tonight. Welcome to HANNITY. Now, the presumption of innocence, it is the very foundation of America's justice system and at the very core of our constitutional republic. Sadly, tonight, there are some people in this country ready to throw what is the single most important principle to the wind, all in an effort to delay, disrupt the confirmation of Judge Kavanaugh. On this program, on my radio show, I have long emphasized the seriousness of any sexual misconduct allegations. Kavanaugh and his accuser must have an opportunity to should testify under oath. Sadly, that's just not good enough for some people. Some want Kavanaugh and the nomination tossed out, delayed indefinitely over decades-old charges. Thirty-six- year-old charges. Now, that FBI is now declining to investigate. They have already investigated Judge Kavanaugh six times and this dates back to Judge Kavanaugh's time in high school, 1982. We have corroboration by zero witnesses, vehemently denied by the accuser and key missing details like a specific year even, location, even a clear series of events. Now coming up in a minute, two people that know Judge Kavanaugh really well will join us tonight. Plus, we will expose what is a shameful political posturing by many in this country. Their blatant double standard, as we speak, many Democrats have horrific histories of sexual misconduct and they are revered by their colleagues. Some even still roaming the halls of Congress. We will name names tonight. We'll also cover this week's big news on FISA abuse. The president ordering previously redacted FISA documents to be released and now, very interesting, you're seeing some of these deep state swap creatures, they are sweating and freaking out. We'll name names there, too. Sit tight, buckle up, it's time for our opening news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: You know, there are a few core principles that we really should all agree on that separates this country from a banana republic or a despotic regime. Let's see, free and fair elections, separation of powers, our great Constitution, the best ever given to man. And an impartial system of justice, that deems that every person is innocent until they are proven guilty. Sadly, tonight, we have many people in this country on the left putting politics above what is a core foundational principle. Now, by now, you probably know the story. Judge Brett Kavanaugh is facing one decades old sexual misconduct allegation, 36 years ago. Northern California, psychology professor, Professor Christine Ford. Although the alleged incident occurred when they were both in high school in 1982, Ford made these accusations only recently, given few concrete details and naming one witness. Now, both the alleged witness and Kavanaugh categorically have now denied the charge. Law-enforcement are not investigating the decades-old charge and meanwhile, Judge Kavanaugh, his accuser, Professor Ford, have all been invited to appear rightly before Congress on Monday. It's a very important serious allegation. Both sides should be given a serious opportunity to speak and be heard. Kavanaugh quickly agreed to testify under oath. Professor Ford, well, although her lawyer said she would appear in the beginning, well, now that she has been given an invitation, numerous invitations, she has not accepted the invitation. And we just have a letter sent by her lawyer to Senator Grassley of the Senate Judiciary Committee, she's now calling on the FBI to first investigate her charges as a, quote, first step. Now, of course, to get a full picture, we should also hear from others. This is 36 years ago. People that have known Kavanaugh throughout these many years, former high school students, former high school girlfriends, college girlfriends, they have all been outspoken about what they say is an impeccable character. That he has always been a gentleman. Sixty-five women impressively have signed a letter supporting the judge. His former female colleagues in the Bush White House, they too have spoken out on his behalf. And mothers of the girls he coaches in basketball, fellow college and law school students, clerks of his and others that have worked and known him over the last 36 years all speak well to his character. Now, tonight, I can report that none of this seems to interest the Democratic Party. Clearly, they are not interested in hearing the full truth. Clearly, they want a delay. Sadly, they want to disrupt and just block the Kavanaugh nomination, and even if that means giving up the presumption of innocence. They want to impugn his character, no due process, no trial, nothing. You don't believe me, we've got the tape. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This woman is to be believed and you can believe Dr. Ford. This was attempted rape. And this is a woman who exhibits Dr. Ford's courage, the classic signs of post-traumatic stress. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: I believe her. Listen, first of all, anyone who comes forward at this point to be prepared to testify in the United States Senate against someone who is being nominated to one of the most powerful positions in the United States government, that takes an extraordinary amount of courage. SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: Not only do women like Dr. Ford who bravely comes forward need to be heard but they need to be believed. They need to be believed. SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: Let me say right at the outset, I believe Dr. Ford, I believe the survivor here. There's every reason to believe her. She has come forward courageously and bravely. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: It's another rush to judgment. No resumption of innocence. Mainstream media also carrying the water for the Democratic Party, well, they are toeing the party line as per usual. Let's take a look. (BEGIN V IDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have no knowledge whether Brett Kavanaugh -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It doesn't matter. I believe Christine Ford because -- to come forward, she has no -- there is no enticements for her to come forward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: By the end of the week, if Judge Kavanaugh decides to go through this, it isn't worth it, it doesn't want -- maybe he can win, but he doesn't want an asterisk, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if he chose to withdraw and chose to back down. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The reality is, I see it right now, probably, this nomination is cooked. And is he willing to accept that when the time comes, and withdraw it, or not? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We need to Judge Brett Kavanaugh not just on what he may or may have not done, but how he treats a woman's pain. And that is something I am going to be paying attention to on Monday. How does he respond to what is happening, whether or not he agrees that this happened with her, does he take her pain seriously? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: When you look at all of this, what do you see? Selective moral outrage. It's important to remember some key details. First, Senator Feinstein and her fellow Democrats, they've had this allegation for several months. Professor Ford issued a letter to lawmakers back in July. Now, Feinstein, when she met with Kavanaugh privately for long periods of time, she never asked during any of these private lengthy meetings anything about this. And, by the way, she didn't ask Kavanaugh about the charge during the public hearings that we all watched, the circus that we watched. She didn't inform any of her Republican colleagues about the charge until the 11th hour, when a confirmation vote was set. And now, she even admitted today she can't say everything being alleged is truthful. A quick moment of truth. But she was excoriated immediately thereafter. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D), CALIFORNIA: I think it's really too bad that no one called her or called her lawyer. My understanding is she got emails. And this is a woman that I really believe has been profoundly impacted by this. Now, I can't say everything is truthful, I don't know. But I do know that they ought to contact her lawyers. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, they did, while she checked in with Senator Grassley's office. She was now invited numerous times to appear before the committee before sending this letter tonight. Now, Feinstein after being excoriated by the base of the party, she tried to walk back those comments saying, oh, she believes Professor Ford is credible. But this is the opposite of what we believe in this country, the presumption of innocence, due diligence. And frankly, what you are saying and what you are observing and what you're watching is dirty political tricks at its worst. We should listen to all sides. And then I trust the American people will come to the truth. I trust senators will make the right decision. Earlier today, the president, he weighed in on this political tactics. Here's what he said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: He's an incredible individual, great intellect, great judge, impeccable history in every way, in every way. I feel so badly for him that he is going through this to be honest with you. I feel so badly for him. This is not a man that deserves this. It should have been brought to the fore, it should have been brought up long ago and that's what you have hearings for. You don't wait until the hearing is over and then, all of a sudden, bring it up. I feel that the Republicans, and I can speak for myself, we should go through a process because there shouldn't even be a little doubt. There shouldn't be doubt. Again, they knew what they were doing. They should have done this a long time ago, three months ago. Not now. But they did it now. So, I don't want to play into their hands. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The president is right on every point he makes, which brings us to the second key detail you need to remember. Any of the outrage that you are seeing from Democrats over sexual misconduct, nobody else in the media will report this, this is what I mean by selected moral outrage. There was no outrage over Senator Ted Chappaquiddick Kennedy. He was the lion of the Senate. Remember, he impugned the character of Judge Robert Bork. We had it last night. He successfully blocked Bork's Supreme Court nomination by slandering and smearing him. He drove his car off of a bridge into shallow water. He left the scene of the crime and his young female passenger, not his wife, died in the submerged car. He went home to sleep that night. He never called authorities until the following day. He told nobody. That woman, she has a name, Mary Jo Kopechne, she could have been saved. Senator Kennedy was revered by Democrats as a hero. There was no Democratic outrage over -- look at even Bill Clinton, for example. He was beloved by many people still in the Senate today, despite, of course, his known track record of sexual misconduct. Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick who accused him of rape. I interviewed her. I interviewed all those women. And that's when he was the attorney general of Arkansas. Still, Senator Feinstein, Schumer, Dick Durbin, so many other Democrats enthusiastically supported Clinton, even voted against his impeachment. Then there is current U.S. Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown. His ex-wife accused him of domestic abuse a few years after what they are claiming Judge Kavanaugh did, and even filed a restraining order against him. There's a new political ad out today. Look for yourself. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AD ANNOUNCER: Now, Senator Sherrod Brown is facing his own #MeToo movement from his past. These court records show sworn evidence that his ex-wife accused him of abusing her. She said Brown assaulted her. A judge had to issue a restraining order. Later, she said Brown violated the court order, pushing, shoving and bullying her. Brown claims it's a family matter, but his ex-wife, like other victims, has a right to be believed. This senator had to resign when evidence emerged he mistreated women. Why is Senator Brown different? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, Senator Brown and his ex-wife now get along and she supports him politically. Well, the record speaks for itself. That's the record. And still, Feinstein is apparently unconcerned over those charges. We reached out to her office today for comments. Crickets. And there's also DNC deputy chairman, this is now currently happening. Keith Ellison, he's running to be Minnesota's next attorney general. Ellison's ex-girlfriend recently accused him of serious physical and emotional abuse. Ellison went on to win his party's nomination from Minnesota attorney general. Yesterday, she tweeted the DNC refused to believe her accusations and that they smeared, threatened and isolated her. We reached out to the DNC, we reached out to Ellison. We still have yet to get a comment. This is a very same party that is now trying to block Kavanaugh's confirmation over decades old misconduct charges from 1982. People on the record, I believe her. Do you believe Keith Ellison's girlfriend? Did you believe Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broaddrick? This is the same party of Harvey Weinstein and Anthony Weiner, and Eliot Spitzer, and I can go on. As I've said before, the charges are serious and we need to hear from Kavanaugh's accuser, Professor Ford. But when Democrats tell you they want to get to the truth, that they truly care about misconduct allegations, frankly, I think we have just proven they are simply lying -- selective moral outrage, rushing to judgment, no presumption of innocence. The American people are smart and they see what's going on. Every American deserves this fundamental principle of presumption of innocence. You all deserve it. And Judge Kavanaugh deserves it, and the woman making the allegation deserves to be heard. These are serious allegations. But what you are seeing is a political tactic that we have seen many times. They did it to Judge Bork. They did it to Judge Clarence Thomas and now, it's Judge Kavanaugh. So, you also have a right to be skeptical. Now, we're going to have more on this throughout the show. But thanks to President Trump, we have important of elements on the deep state tonight. And we do have a disrupter in chief. We have somebody that's breaking dishes and exposing the deep state and now, that house of cards is coming crumbling down. Yesterday, the White House announced the president is declassifying key FISA documents that should upend several key corrupt former officials. Now, we specifically talked about pages 10 through 12, 17 through 34 of the June 2017 FISA application on Carter Page. All FBI reports of Russia related interviews with Bruce Ohr, all FBI reports of interviews prepared in connection with Carter Page and FISA applications, well, we are now awaiting the release of these important documents which should rock the deep state to its core. By the way, that means information, emails and texts, Comey, Page, Strzok, Andrew McCabe, Bruce Ohr, Christopher Steele -- let's see it all. Where is Spartacus when we need him? Also tonight, Congressman Adam, well, shifty Schiff, he's worried that all his lies about phony rush of collusion will be exposed. He's calling the declassification an abusive power. Well, that this will put the country at risk and, quote, this is evidently of no consequence to a president who cares nothing about the country and everything about his narrow self- interest. No, you are going to be exposed as a big, huge liar. We've got all your interviews, all 200,000 of them. And meanwhile, former CIA Director Brennan also freaking out tonight feeling the heat, actually called on government bureaucrats to defy the president's orders. Obviously, he doesn't want the Constitution but we kind of knew that before, didn't we? Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: I think Christopher Wray, director of FBI, and Dan Coats, director of national intelligence, as well as Rod Rosenstein, who is overseeing this investigation, should push back against any directive that is going to have negative impact on our capabilities as well as the investigation. So, I think they should continue to push, push, push. If Mr. Trump and the White House does not relent, well, then I think they have some decisions to make, whether or not they are just going to not follow that direction and be fired, or to resign. But if they really believe this is going to have serious impact on a national security, law enforcement and judicial process, they have an obligation since they took an oath of office to the Constitution of the United States, not to Mr. Trump to uphold their responsibilities and their agency and department's authorities. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: With all due respect, we don't need lectures on the constitution from him. And, by the way, he is feeling confident from a conspiracy TV, hate Trump NBC, other officials, including him, may be worried tonight, specifically anybody that signed off on those FISA applications against Carter Page, Jim Comey, Sally Yates, Rod Rosenstein, Andrew McCabe and the rest of them. And by the way, McCabe, despite getting fired, and there is currently a grand jury convening at this moment about him from the FBI, waiting the result of this criminal investigation, he's going to cash in on his anti- Trump hatred. He has a brand-new book deal and he'll need the money because when the FISA documents are officially released, we should come full circle on his abuse of power, as well as others. And, of course, without Donald Trump's win in 2016, we would know nothing, zero, about the widespread bureaucratic abuse of power. It has taken us almost a year to unpeel every layer of this onion, and the swamp in the sewer. A lot of work yet to be done. Now, James O'Keefe, projectveritas.com, highlighted this in a brand-new undercover report. He filmed the State Department employee, an admitted democratic socialist, vowing to resist President Trump at every level. We are paying the salary of this person. We haven't verified it but you can watch it for yourself. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I work for the State Department. I am a civil servant. I'm a union member and all that good stuff. Everything. Every level (EXPLETIVE DELETED) up. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That's a first in a series and we will follow that very closely. And the State Department confirmed his employment and said that they are taking the matter seriously. We'll have a lot more deep state news throughout the show. Joining us now first with reaction to the latest Kavanaugh developments, American Conservative Union chairman Matt Schlapp, Judicial Crisis Network chief counsel, Carrie Severino, and FOX News contributor Tammy Bruce. Thank you all for being here. You are shaking her head a lot during that monologue. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: My god, I'll just tell you, the embarrassment of this. Look, I was president of L.A. NOW in the `90s. In 1992, I worked on the Feinstein -- HANNITY: Which is NOW, the National Organization for Women. BRUCE: That's right. I worked on the Feinstein and Boxer's Senate campaigns, because, you know, after the Anita Hill situation, I was told we need fairness, we needed to be better, we needed to, you know, be something that the American people could trust. And here we are 26 years later and Feinstein is now wielding that hatchet. This is not a search for truth. It is a desire for justice. This is a political assassination of Judge Kavanaugh. And the issue becomes here not -- this is what is awful for all of us, frankly, who have worked to have women be taken seriously on issues of violence against women, domestic violence, rape, you know, harassment, is that we have demanded, and said and asserted that women can be taken seriously. And they should be. And yet now, we don't know what happened 36 years ago. But we do know what happened in July. And from that point forward, this has been a politicized framework. This woman's experience has been packaged as a weapon and this is what we have promised the American people as feminists, that that would not happen. That you can trust women and that we want the system as it exists to simply hear us. We are not asking for the accused to have no rights, to be, you know, removed from the process of -- due process and from the rule of law, and yet now that is what every American is hearing. It is an insult to every woman who's been sexually assaulted. For those of us who have had experiences like that, it is a remarkable dismissal of our life experience and what we have demanded from the system. And I'll just tell you, it is -- it's offensive. I want her to get -- and it's good over 36 years that she's been in therapy, she made choices that were best for her. I'm not going to judge those choices. But right now, she's come forward, she should be heard. It should be under oath, so should the judge, and that is all we're asking right now. HANNITY: Let me say, when a lawyer says that she's been the target of harassment and death threats -- by the way, all of those in the public, I know, I sympathize with her, and pray for her, I also pray for Judge Kavanaugh and his family. We don't know -- and this is the heart of the matter, Carrie, we don't know what happened in 1982, but we ought to hear from everybody. That to me is a presumption of innocence and that is fundamental fairness. Take the chart seriously and then also look at the entire context and a texture that represents the last 36 years of Judge Kavanaugh's life. And then I think the American people will make a decision. Now they have decided to raise the bar, we demand an FBI investigation first. Hasn't he been investigated by the FBI? CARRIE SEVERINO, CHIEF COUNSEL, JUDICIAL CRISIS NETWORK: He absolutely has. I mean, this is moving the goal post one time after another. They said, first, after holding it all this time there were opportunities to do this in a private environment, a confidential, that would have spared Ms. Ford, the harassment that she experienced. Now, that would have been much better if Senator Feinstein had talked about this, for example, in the closed hearings for Judge Kavanaugh. That's what's designed to do. There was also -- HANNITY: I think it's an important point. The Republican said, Mitch McConnell and Senator Grassley, it can be closed or it can be open, she doesn't have to go publicly with this -- and I would understand the stress of anybody. SEVERINO: Senator Grassley is bending over -- HANNITY: But she'd been invited and she now has raised -- listen, let me play the tape of -- this is her attorney Katz on fake news CNN, but this is real, one of the rare few moments. But she said she would testify. Now, they're raising the bar, now, we demand this, and this, and this before testifying, even though she can do it privately or publicly. Let's roll that tape. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Will your client Christine Ford be willing to testify in public to the Judiciary Committee? BRENDA KATZ, ATTORNEY: The answer is yes. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The answer is yes, but now the answer is no. Carrie, apparently, it's -- you've got to do A, B and C first. SEVERINO: Well, and the Democrats have kind of invited this idea of this new FBI investigation. Here's what the normal process. You have an FBI investigation. That's been done on Judge Kavanaugh for six times, but it was done also, of course, once in conjunction with this nomination. Then, if there is additional information, which obviously this is, there's an update on that. They had a call yesterday, for example. A confidential, you know, a classified call talking about that information -- HANNITY: How many Democrats are on that call? SEVERINO: Zero. None of them showed. They're not interested in actually following the procedure. They're just inventing a new idea. HANNITY: Let me go to Matt Schlapp. And, Matt, this is an important point. This is selective outrage. Where is the outrage about Keith Ellison? Do we believe his former girlfriend? That's happening currently. Sherrod Brown's wife documents, there are court documents, pretty harsh. I understand they've have gotten back -- they're not together, they are separate, but they have resolve some differences. But those charges stood. So, why are they against him? MATT SCHLAPP, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION CHAIRMAN: Look, there are nine members of the Supreme Court, some picked by Democratic presidents, some picked by Republican presidents. Why is it, after Clarence Thomas and now Brett Kavanaugh and other ones like Robert Bork, they were able to treat unfairly in the process. Why are the two of the nine having this over their heads, this idea that they acted inappropriate sexually? You know why, because Tammy is right, because that charge works. And it tends to stick. And I want to disagree with something that everyone has been saying about this. I believe we learned nothing on Monday. I know we say that people have the right to be heard, she had the right to participate in a very fair process with a lot of Democratic senators who would have helped her. She chose not to participate in the process because she wants to delay this vote to stop the nomination. This is politics. This is not going to heal anything on Monday. And Republicans better hold the line. HANNITY: You all have been amazing. Two women who know the judge, coming up next. Thank you for being with us. HANNITY: All right. For the latest on Kavanaugh nomination and what's going on, we bring FOX News chief national correspondent Ed Henry is with us tonight. Ed, a lot of breaking news, the letter from the attorney. What's going on at the White House? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Sean, what's interesting is the day started in fact with one lawyer for Dr. Ford saying that she was willing to testify. Republicans have given her the option to do it in public or private, on Monday. A much different story breaking just in the last hour, another lawyer for Dr. Ford saying in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee, she does not want to testify on Monday. She first wants, Dr. Ford does, an FBI investigation of this allegation from 36 years ago. What's interesting is that aligns Dr. Ford with the Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer who for at least two days now has been calling for an FBI investigation, even though there's already been six FBI background checks of Judge Kavanaugh for various nominations. President Trump today said the FBI does not want to get involved. And so, the bottom line is Judge Kavanaugh was here today for the second straight day. He was behind closed doors getting ready for his own testimony. He wants to give sworn testimony, that they say here at the White House, he'll do it any day of this week, but he's ready for next Monday. He wants to deny that there was any kind of sexual assault. Also interesting that the president stood behind his nomination today at a news conference and said that he feels bad about how Judge Kavanaugh, his wife, his children have been treated. Kavanaugh's friend meanwhile, Mark Judge, said again today he has no memory of the alleged event, but has RSVP'd no as well to the Senate committee because he does not want to speak publicly other than saying, quote, "I never saw Brett act in the manner that Dr. Ford described." So, that from the only eyewitness that we are aware of from this alleged incident. Now Chuck Schumer, I mentioned, he wants the FBI to launch this investigation. Republicans dismiss that, saying he just want to delay all this until after the midterms. Here is the senator as well as the president, watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: The FBI should be given time to reopen its background check investigation into Judge Kavanaugh. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: When Senator Feinstein sat with Judge Kavanaugh for a long time, a long, long meeting. She had this letter, why didn't she bring it up? (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: Now Senator Feinstein defended herself this afternoon saying that she kept that letter private because Dr. Ford wanted to remain anonymous for some time. But the other thing that Feinstein said that's getting a lot of attention tonight, as she cannot said, among other things, she cannot say for sure that everything is truthful in terms of what has been said by Dr. Ford. Now they are trying to clarify that in Feinstein's office tonight saying that basically she was saying that she wasn't raising doubts about Dr. Ford but was instead saying it needs to be investigated by the FBI. But that comment from Feinstein saying she's not sure everything is truthful is going to get a lot of attention over the next few days. Sean? HANNITY: All right. Ed Henry at the White House tonight, thank you. Joining us now, more supporters of Judge Kavanaugh who have worked with him in the past and known him for decades, Monica Mastal is with us and Leslie Fahrenkopf Foley is with us. Welcome. Good to see you. You knew him at Yale? LESLIE FAHRENKOPF FOLEY, JUDGE BRETT KAVANAUGH'S COLLEAGUE: I did. We've known each other for over 30 years. We've been very close friends since meeting at Yale. HANNITY: Now this is what I've was saying. Ok, it's a serious charge, she can testify and now they are changed the rules, they are raising the bar. It seems like they don't really want her -- for some reason, I don't know why, to testify. He said immediately it's untrue. The one witness that she mentioned was in the room said it's untrue. How should we approach something like this? FOLEY: Well, the processes up to the judiciary committee, but all I can say is that I've known Brett for so many years, he is the most honest, kind, respectful decent human being that I know, and I was absolutely shocked by these allegations. HANNITY: One allegation. FOLEY: Yes. The-- HANNITY: Nineteen eighty-two. Should we put anything into the fact that there are no details, she doesn't remember the years, the place or the location? They are lawyers, that's what I meant. (CROSSTALK) FOLEY: I don't know her, and I can't comment on what she said other than to say that what she has alleged is completely inconsistent with the Brett Kavanaugh that I know. HANNITY: And that's the thing, Monica, that I have been saying. If we are going to believe in equal justice under the law, the -- I think the core principle in this country is the presumption of innocence. I believe strongly in that. You see so many Democrats that race out there and say I believe Professor Ford. And my question to you, Monica is, we also have to -- you are one of the 65 women that knew him and wrote a letter about who he was at this time in his life. I believe your sister dated him if I'm not mistaken. We have people that also went to college obviously, like Leslie who is here tonight. We have people that went to law school with him, we have people that clerk with him, we have people that work with him in the Bush White House, I think everyone should be heard. And then we will get a clear picture of his life, won't we? MONICA MASTAL, BRETT KAVANAUGH'S FORMER COLLEAGUE: Yes. I believe that all the women who have signed this letter have come out and said that they still have the utmost confidence in Brett and that he was in high school as he is now as the women throughout his life have testified to his character and his behavior. And he should be given that opportunity to be heard. You know, he has denied this allegation, and he should be given the opportunity to be heard as well. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know him back at time, what was he like back then? MASTAL: So I did not go to high school with him, he was in high school with my siblings. HANNITY: Right. Did he date your sister? MASTAL: I think they went to a dance or two together, yes. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: OK. I don't know if you call that -- dates made by the way as I understand. MASTAL: I don't know if it was dating. I don't know if it was dating, but you know, they are very good friends. Probably saw each other most weekend. So, very good friends and to this day, very good friends. HANNITY: Yes. What was the thing if you look at his life, and every group all throughout 36 years, this is the one inconsistent side. And then, the timing of it, this was known to the Democrats in July. The Democrats are silenced on people like Keith Ellison and others, but that's recent. Do you see politics here? FOLEY: I fear that politics is definitely-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Scary when you consider the severity of something like this, right? FOLEY: So true. HANNITY: I trust the American people, though. And if Professor Ford and Judge Kavanaugh testify and all the people that know him all of that time testify, I think the American people can sort it out. I have faith in them. Very nice to meet you. Thank you for coming on. I appreciate it. FOLEY: Thank you. HANNITY: Monica, thank you so much, too. We appreciate it. When we come back, Kristin Fisher live from Washington, where things stand as it relates to the FISA documents the president declassified yesterday. Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett and much more. A lot of breaking news tonight. Thanks for being with us. HANNITY: All right. Yesterday we learned that President Trump ordered the declassification of FISA documents and so much more. This could be the end for a lot of people, and put the whole story together. Here with a live report from Washington tonight is our own Kristin Fisher. Kristin, the latest. KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Sean, as you said, it's only been one day since President Trump ordered the declassification of several key documents related to the special counsel's probe. But already, he said that he'd consider declassifying even more. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: What I want, is I want total transparency. This is a witch hunt, the Republicans are seeing it, the Democrat know it's a witch hunt too but they don't want to admit because that's not good politics for them. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: So intelligence officials are now scrambling to comply with yesterday's order that includes FISA warrants and unredacted text messages from former FBI director James Comey, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, and Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. But critics say their release could jeopardize national security. Today top Democrats on Capitol Hill sent a letter to the director of national intelligence, the FBI director and the deputy attorney general, saying, quote, "The action President Trump has taken to direct your agencies to selectively disclose classified information that he believes he can manipulate publicly to undermine the legitimacy and credibility of the special counsel's investigation is a brazen abuse of power." They also said in that letter that they want a briefing before those documents are disclosed to the White House or anyone else. Sean. HANNITY: All right, Kristin Fisher in Washington, thank you for that report. Here with more reaction, author of the number one New York Times bestseller "The Russia Hoax," Fox News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett, and also Fox News investigative reporter, Sara Carter. This is now led to where we are today, it has been a long process. Sara, we always start with you in the news. I keep hearing that the Department of Justice, the FBI, are in a little bit of a freak out mode. We saw that from Brennan and Adam Schiff is losing his mind because he will be exposed as a huge liar. So, are they slow walking this, are they trying to defy the president, will they listen to Brennan who is telling people don't listen to the president who the constitutional authority to do this? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: This is extraordinarily dangerous rhetoric, Sean. I mean, coming out John Brennan's mouth, Andrew McCabe with his new book by the way, which is titled "The FBI" basically protecting us from terrorists and Trump. I mean, this type of rhetoric is so dangerous. I mean, this doesn't appear to be a witch hunt, it appears to be a silent coup. I don't know how to say it in any other word, they will try to slow this, they will try to drag it but the president has issued an immediate order to have those documents declassified. They already have them-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But Sara, let me -- I don't like to interrupt normally but this is important. If we now know that the highest levels of the DOJ, the FBI, and the intel community, not rank-and-file, which is so important for people to understand, we know they abuse their power. We know they have done it, we have the evidence. What will this show when we finally get a hold of this information, the FISA warrants, the 302's, the gang of eight, all of the texts and e-mails of Comey, Page, Strzok, McCabe, Ohr, and Steele, what are we going to learn? CARTER: I think we are going to learn that there was an extraordinary abuse of our constitutional rights, a malfeasance against the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the secret court in an effort to spy on Carter Page just to get close to Trump. I think what we're going to discover is that they did tell-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And destroy him and prevent him from getting elected-- CARTER: -- and destroy him and prevent him from being president. HANNITY: -- before and after the election. CARTER: Absolutely before and after the election. I have been told that there is information in those documents that none of us are aware of and that will blow our minds once it comes out because it's not extraordinary. HANNITY: I have heard that, I have not seen them. Gregg Jarrett, you a very interesting strong column out tonight. Rod Rosenstein defies President Trump's order which Brennan is encouraging people to do, to declassify these documents, he should be fired. But it's more than that, isn't it? GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: He should be fired for rank insubordination. You cannot defy a superior officer as an inferior officer of the Department of Justice. And it wasn't just Brennan who said it today, but according to Adam Schiff, Christopher Wray, the FBI director, as well as Rod Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general said Trump's order crosses the red line. What does that mean? Does that mean they will defy him? HANNITY: What is that not? JARRETT: Or does it mean that they will slow walk the release of these documents, hoping that they can delay it until the midterms and Congress will change hands? Rosenstein has every motive in the world to try to hide and conceal these documents because they may incriminate him. HANNITY: But won't he others and saying I didn't know? JARRETT: Not good enough. He's on record in saying that-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's who signed it. JARRETT: -- if you affix your signature to this you are vouching for the authenticity and the veracity of these documents. And we now know by virtue of the release of some of the documents that this was unverified, uncorroborated and the federal regulations say you may never go to a FISA judge with information that's unverified. HANNITY: All of this is fascinating and twisted at the same time, Sara, because this is Hillary's bought and paid for Russian lies, that the government used top, again, intel officials, FBI, DOJ, that they used to secure a FISA warrant, never verify and corroborating any of it, which they should, to spy on the Trump campaign. And then they are using it as a weapon to leak to get Mueller appointed because Lisa Page testified that they didn't have any Russian collusion after nine long months of investigation. Nothing. CARTER: But they were still searching for a crime, Sean, and that's why they were leaking to the media. So they had this pretest, right? They were leaking information that they got from an uncorroborated dossier by a foreign agent from a foreign country based on Russian lies, and then they would leak it to the media. And then all of a sudden when these stories would come out like they verify the FISA on Carter Page which by the way is a crime because that's considered classified, then they would say, the story is out now so now we can go even further and interview more people in the Trump campaign. Although it was all based on lies from the beginning, it's almost like we are living in an upside down world. I mean, how is it possible that another campaign, Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee could pay for this. HANNITY: Gregg. CARTER: And then we are investigating the president. (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: One other point, President Obama signed an executive order that said to the FBI, DOJ and other agents, you may never misuse classification status to hide your own malfeasance, embarrassment and lawlessness. And we will find out, I guarantee you, that that's exactly what the FBI and the DOJ was doing and they are still trying to conceal it. HANNITY: "The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump, the Russian Hoax." It's all true. JARRETT: It is indeed and the more evidence that comes out, the more it substantiates the thesis. HANNITY: Is it a thesis or it is malfeasance. JARRETT: It's a fact, it's well known fact. HANNITY: Gregg Jarrett, thank you. Sara Carter, thank you. Without you two we wouldn't be where we are tonight. Also John Solomon a big part of this. He sat down with the president with brand-new details in an exclusive interview about this topic and much more. We'll break it here, next. HANNITY: All right. The Hill's John Solomon he just sat down just, well, literally two hours ago with President Trump for an exclusive interview and they spoke about him declassifying the FISA documents, Mueller's probe, Kavanaugh's confirmation process and so much more. I don't even know where to begin, I'll let you report and we will all decide but this is an exclusive interview that he gave you, what, 45 minutes for The Hill? JOHN SOLOMON, VICE PRESIDENT, THE HILL: It was, it was extraordinary in the Oval Office. And first, Sean, just one thing an impression before we get to the news. We hear all the stories of the White House being in disarray, chaos, yelling and screaming. I was in the Oval Office for 45 minutes, the president couldn't be calmer, the organization couldn't be more functional, and he was very measured on how he answered questions. Very detailed. He had a good grasp of the details of the Russian investigation and anything we ask him. It was really impression. So, different from the reports that you see in the other news media news organizations today. But let me tell you the news. He said today that the effort to expose a corrupt FBI investigation may turn out to be one of the crowning achievements of his presidency. That what went on was a ruse. He changed his wording, he'd been calling it a witch hunt. Remember, Mueller's witch hunt? Today he used Gregg Jarrett's words, it's a hoax, it was a fraud. We deceive a FISA court. He made some really strong statements about the judges. I don't know yet, he said, but I fear they didn't do their job and maybe they're doing it now, we got to give them the benefit of the doubt. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Meaning the FISA courts? SOLOMON: Yes. First time he's ever talked about that, right? But here's one of the biggest ones. We've sat here for two years laboring over the idea of was it obstruction when he fired Comey, right? And of course a lot of people said it was within constitutional power. Here's the news he made today. He said he wanted to fire Comey back in 2016, he should have done it. He got talked of it, it was the biggest mistake. He didn't fire him and made that wasn't the first time he was thinking about it. He thought about it in the summer of 2016, he wanted to get rid of that guy because he didn't like the way he handled the Clinton e-mail case. All of this has been under wraps, we have known this, it puts an entirely different perspective on the things the president did in his first months in office, really extraordinary. HANNITY: You know, we have been unpeeling an onion, and you've been a big part of it. Gregg has been a big part of it. Sara has been a big part of it. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: And there's been many others, I can't mention them all. I think he is right. Is he -- did he also talked about the classifying and unredacting other stuff? SOLOMON: He did. HANNITY: He did? SOLOMON: Yes. Here's the most important thing. He hasn't even read these documents, he's taking a leap of faith of the American public will appreciate the transparencies. I haven't read of them but I'm certain from the members of Congress I've talked to who have done their work and done their due diligence, it's going to show that we deserve the American public. That this was a hoax and not a real investigation meant to distract my presidency. But he's a man very comfortable with his decision to declassify all that Brennan stuff rolls off his sleeve like nothing. He believes this is the right thing to do. And he believes when we see these documents we're going to find out the FBI did not act in the best interest of the United States. That was his words and what he came away with today when he we talked to him. HANNITY: There seems to be a lot of fear and we mentioned this with Sara in terms of Brennan and McCabe with his new book, really terrorism and Trump. Really? SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: It's sad. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: This is one of the greatest institutions. I've said this many times. A lot of my family is in law enforcement, my mom was a prison guard for 25 years, my dad family court probation, so many in our family, cops, NYPD, two FBI guys were deity. And this is not rank-and-file. SOLOMON: No. HANNITY: But what they did is abuse their power. Is he confident that we do get to the truth? SOLOMON: He does. He had a level of confidence and a level of composure that this is the right thing to do. And when we're done we're all going to agree what happened here. He said privately Democrats are now telling him you've been disserved on some of the stuff. He's a man that is on a mission to clear his name but also to get the American people to understand what the FBI did wrong and how to make sure it never happens again. HANNITY: John Solomon, it's on Thehill.com. We'll link to Hannity.com. Great job, 45 minutes of exclusive interview with the president. SOLOMON: Thank you. HANNITY: And he'll have all the details for you. Thanks for being with us. When we come back, new low for Hollywood. The latest attack on Christianity. Sad. We have the tapes, straight ahead. HANNITY: So the Emmy's pat yourself on the back for last night. You weren't the only ones that didn't watch the awards show at its lowest ratings ever on top of last year's lowest ratings ever. And it's not surprising given what the co-host had to say about, well, winners that thank Jesus. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, my mother is not watching. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, she said she doesn't like watching white awards shows because you guys don't thank Jesus enough. That's true. The only people -- the only white people that thank Jesus are Republicans and ex- crack heads. So. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Nobody watched. Don't worry. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Laura Ingraham on this busy news night takes over and busy tonight (ph) with the swamp. Load-Date: September 19, 2018 End of Document Media Rush Judgment on Brett Kavanaugh; The Accuser of Brett Kavanaugh Wants an FBI Investigation Prior to Testifying to the Senate Judiciary Committee; President Trump to Declassify Documents Related to Russia Investigation; Emmy Awards Show Reviewed Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 18, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7879 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Monica Crowley Jason Chaffetz, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Helgi Walker, Nicole Devord, Mercedes Schlapp, John Annarrelli, Thomas Mariello, Peggy Nance, Anthony Tall Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEW HOST: Nobody watched. Don't worry. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues, Laura Ingraham on this busy news night takes over in D.C. tonight with the swamp. I'm the only one left here in New York. How are you? LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: So Hannity, I'm thinking like when you get home from the show, you have DVR'd the Emmys and you put on your pink fluffy slippers and you get your bon bons out -- HANNITY: Yes, OK. That's really me. INGRAHAM: Put your out coat on. HANNITY: You put on like fluffy slippers (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I open a beer and I have you on TiVo, the greatest invention ever. DVR. INGRAHAM: OK. Would you know one of the shows that was nominated for an Emmy? Like one? I wouldn't so I don't know if you would. You watch that stuff? HANNITY: I hate these people. All they do is, we're great, we're funny. Nobody cares. You know what, Hollywood is done. They are all done. INGRAHAM: No, it's over. TV is over except on Fox. All right Hannity, awesome tonight. HANNITY: All right. Well, have a great show. Good to see you. Laura Ingraham from the swamp, Washington, D.C. INGRAHAM: All right. Do take care. Good evening from the swamp. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. We have a vitally important hour for you tonight. Late-breaking revelations and details on this Kavanaugh story, another delay tonight in the Kavanaugh vote. What is really going on with this accuser and is an FBI investigation warranted? Mercedes Schlapp from the White House will be here. And former intel chiefs are bristling at the President Trump's decision to declassify important documents related to the Russia investigation. What are they scared of? What are they hiding? And Hollywood, as Hannity said, showing once again why Americans are watching less TV today. Raymond Arroyo is here with a report on Emmy Award train wreck. But first, the rush to judgment, that's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Listen closely to the media coverage of the 36-year-old accusation against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and the chorus is hard to miss. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We have Dr. Ford's credible allegation. She has nothing to gain here. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The receipts were there. The story is credible. I don't think anyone doesn't believe her. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have every reason to believe that she's a very credible witness and their story is credible. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I believe that Dr. Ford as I referred to her because she makes a very credible case. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a situation where you have serious and credible allegations of rape. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Now, we're led to believe that these are credible allegations. They're all reading from the same playbook. But given the age of the charges, what is the standard for credibility? Has any evidence been produced? Is there any corroborating witness? So far the answer is no. In fact, the only other person named in the accusation says it never happened. And given what we know of the accuser's political inclination and her support of left-wing causes, it's not unreasonable to believe that she has a political axe to grind. The hyperbolic overheated reaction to these charges is somewhat reminiscent of what happened to the Duke Lacrosse team more than a decade ago. Remember in 2006, the Duke Lacrosse team haired a pair of exotic dancers for a party at a rental house near the Duke campus. One of the dancers, a black woman claimed that three of the Lacrosse players brutally raped her in a bathroom. Dave Evans, the captain of the team and one of the accused, he spoke to the media the moment he learned of the charges against him. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DAVE EVANS, TEAM CAPTAIN, DUKE LACROSSE TEAM: First, I want to say I'm absolutely innocent of all the charges that have been brought against me today. That Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty are innocent of all the charges that were brought against them. Every member of the Duke University lacrosse team is innocent. You have all been told some fantastic lies. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, the media seized on the story, spinning the stripper's credible accusation into a tale of white privilege, misogyny and just pure evil. A media swarm and rush to judgment follows. The Duke Lacrosse coach, Mike Pressler, who stood by his team in the face of these false accusations was fired for it and the young men's reputations were dragged through the mud. Only later did we discover that the three accused men were not near the dancer long enough for the alleged assault to have happened. One of the three men accused was a mile away at an ATM machine and thankfully it was captured on security video at the time of the alleged incident. All three men were eventually cleared of the charges. North Carolina's then attorney general Roy Cooper in declaring their innocence said, the men had been victims of a tragic rush to accuse and the failure to verify serious allegations. The crusading Durham District Attorney, Mike Nifong who cooked evidence and raced to prosecute was disbarred and convicted of contempt for his actions. Now this should be in a different fact, there's a cautionary tale as we weigh and determine the credibility of allegations against Judge Kavanaugh. At least the Duke Lacrosse case was kind of contemporary when it comes to the timing, with witnesses and a crime scene. Thirty-six years later, Ms. Ford can't recall exactly when or where her alleged incident even took place. Yet throughout the media, the drum beat goes on and on and there is an implicit message that senators dare not submit the accuser to any tough questioning as they did with Anita Hill. (BEGI VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I remember sitting in that hearing room watching Anita Hill endure character assassination day after day from Republicans. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They know that they can't attack her directly and say she's making it up. That's what they did with Anita Hill in 1991. Today that probably wouldn't fly in a MeToo era. SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: We must not repeat the mistake of the Anita Hill hearings. They were rushed and were a debacle. Do we want to repeat that mistake? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: A debacle. I actually think the Republicans have learned the important lesson from the Anita Hill hearings. They've learned that the only way to deal with last-minute he said-she said allegations is to refuse to be intimidated and to proceed fairly and methodically. But the more serious question is, have the Democrats learned any lessons about the toxicity of false charges coupled with a media pylon as demonstrated by both the Duke Lacrosse and the Clarence Thomas cases. Do they recognize that a rush to judgment is not only unfair but destructive to the process and to individual lives? Every accuser has a right to speak out but should be obliged to have his or her allegations challenged and sometimes aggressively so. The accused meanwhile should not be presumed guilty and he or she should have every opportunity to clear his or her good name. Now, Chairman Grassley has dedicated Monday to a public hearing where both Judge Kavanaugh and his accuser, Ms. Ford, have been invited to appear. Kavanaugh is ready, but according to reports out late tonight and a letter from her attorney, Ms. Ford wants the FBI to investigate her allegations before she agrees to appear. That was a late-breaking letter that her attorney submitted to the Senate tonight. Well, the question is, who will blink first? Listeners to my radio show had a message today for Republicans who fail to stand up for Kavanaugh in the fair process. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If the Republicans don't do this, I will be voting, but I won't be voting for Republicans. They've done this so many times. They have no backbone. They have no spine. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am infuriated. The reason we voted for Trump is because of his outstanding SCOTUS picks. If they don't push Kavanaugh through, they will never seat another Supreme Court judge, especially a man. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have been traveling all over the country attending Trump rallies, and I can tell you first hand, if the Republicans don't grow a backbone and support Kavanaugh and take the vote now, they're going to have hell to pay come November. (END AUDIO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, in a way though, this shouldn't really be about the mid- terms, right? This should only be about whether Judge Kavanaugh is qualified to sit on the highest court of the land. We all have to ask ourselves the question, should a charge made by one person, decades late, impossible to prove or to rebut be enough to damn the reputation of someone with decades of honorable public service? Someone whose job is in government required no fewer than six previous FBI background checks? And shouldn't all of us regardless of party consider the poisonous precedent that that would set? And that's |THE ANGLE. Joining us now with reaction is attorney Helgi Walker who worked with Brett Kavanaugh in the White House counsel's office, along with Nicole Devord, a former sex crimes prosecutor. Nicole, I want to start with you because tonight the attorney for Ms. Ford has told the committee her client is not ready to proceed to testify on Monday. This is 24 hours after she had said on "The Today Show" that her client would basically do anything she needed to do to get her testimony forth. What is going on here tonight? NICOLE DEVORD, FORMER SEX CRIMES PROSECUTOR: You know, I think this is a really interesting wrinkle as well. I mean, the reality is that she basically went out on the air on a variety of TV appearances and essentially said I want to testify. I want to tell my story. I don't think that the vote should be had until I've had a chance to have my story. And it sounds like what they're doing is giving her an opportunity to tell the story and now she says I want to wait. This is an interesting wrinkle. I do think that it's better for everyone if she has a chance to air what it is she has to say. The reputation damage has already been done. He might as well have an opportunity to rebut it. This is the risk with having to vet accusations of this nature years and years later after the alleged incident. INGRAHAM: Helgi, also is this letter tonight is the fo9llowing paragraph. In the 36 hours since her name became public, Dr. Ford has received a stunning amount of support from the community, fellow citizens. At the same time, however, her worst fears have been materialized. She's been a target of vicious harassment and even death threats saying that her family was forced to relocate out of their house as a result of this. So, she wants an FBI investigation of witnesses, I guess locations. How would this possibly proceed? We're also going to talk to an FBI former spokesman in a few moments, but how is this a process that could proceed at this point, Helgi? HELGI WALKER, ATTORNEY: Laura, it's already -- any chance for a fair investigation has already been polluted because as most lawyers and your viewers understand, you don't start with "The Washington Post" expose and then investigate. The FBI investigates discretely, quietly. All the witnesses, many of them, have already had their opportunity to get the stories straight, delete their social media accounts, you know, perhaps get rid of documents. That's not how investigations work. If the process, the chance to have actually a fair investigation where the FBI can do its job the way it's supposed to, has already been destroyed by the way the Senate Democrats have handled these allegations. INGRAHAM: Well, Hillary Clinton tonight said that there should be a two- week pause -- a two-week pause on this process. That should be enough to do an investigation. The accuser doesn't even know where this occurred and the only other person she can state that was at this party says it didn't happen. So what is there to investigate here? Help me out. WALKER: Well, there are a lot of missing elements of the story and that's why she was offered an opportunity to come forward and testify and tell her story, which is what her lawyer said she wanted to do. If you're going to make an allegation like this, you cannot -- you can't hide. This is -- INGRAHAM: It can't be hit-and-run. WALKER: _- the future of the Supreme Court. INGRAHAM: Nicole, it can't be hit-and-run. This is what -- and I'll play this first. I want to get Dianne Feinstein. This is Senator Hirono who said this today about whether the accuser really needs to testify at all. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: Why should we participate in a victimization of someone who has the courage to come forward? And she is under absolutely no obligation to participate in a smearing -- guess who is perpetuating all of these kinds of actions? It's the men in this country and I just want to say to the men of this country, just shut up and step up. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Nicole? Your reaction to that. DEVORD: You know, the reality is, this is a decades-old criminal allegation. The statute of limitations on prosecution based on the story that I've heard and the explanations of what may have occurred that I heard have passed. And now what you have is somebody who is in the position of having to defend themselves against this quasi criminal charge all these years later. I agree, maybe an investigation is appropriate but there is no reason that all of the questioning that was set to take place couldn't take place anyway (inaudible) multiple times. INGRAHAM: Yes, you've done sex crime prosecutions. Have you ever come across anything like this with something that is alleged so many years later with really very little in the way of details? DEVORD: A lot of times these cases are he said/she said cases and even having something that occurred weeks in the past is a difficult situation for everybody involved. We're not talking weeks. We're talking years, we are talking decades. The FBI certainly should have the opportunity to go out and dig up whatever they can find. Location, possible witnesses. It would help everybody to have verification of any of these details., butt the fact of the matter is, they should still be able to proceed with questions. INGRAHAM: All right, guys. And it's not just Brett Kavanaugh the media is going after. It's anyone who dares to question his accuser's credibility. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In the end, the all-white and all-male members the judiciary committee attacked Anita Hill's credibility and Thomas went on to be narrowly confirmed 52 to 48. But there was a political backlash. The next year, 1992, was called the Year of the Woman, as a record 24 women were elected to the House and four women joined two others in the Senate. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me now with reaction is Mercedes Schlapp, White House director of Strategic Communication. Mercedes, thanks for coming in tonight. So great to have you here. Tall right, this is completely wild even of course, verbally we just talked about, but we now have Senator Blumenthal coming out saying the following. I want you to react. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: I think the nomination should be withdrawn. The bar here is not whether you have not criminally assaulted someone. It's credibility, trust, integrity. This nomination will not only cast a shadow over Judge Kavanaugh if he were ever to be confirmed, it was also stain the United States Supreme Court irreparably. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Mercedes? MERCEDES SCHLAPP, WHITE HOUSE DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC COMMUNICATION: This is the most predictable playbook for the Democrats. The Democrats from day one have said that they are not going to be supporting Kavanaugh for a very long period of time. They were even refusing to take meetings with him. And then they wait at the last minute for Senator Feinstein to come up with this letter from this accuser on Brett Kavanaugh after we've seen 32 hours of testimony by Judge Kavanaugh, after they've had closed committee hearings and after they have given him over 1,000 written questions. And what are we seeing, Laura? We're seeing the fact that none of this with regards to this accusation being made was brought up to the attention of judge Kavanaugh. And so it's very clear that it is the politics and the delay tactics of Democrats came pushing forward and this just is one more example coming from Senator Blumenthal not allowing this to be resolved in a sense that as we know Judge Kavanaugh has been very consistent in saying. I categorically deny this horrific accusation. INGRAHAM: Do you think about Blumenthal and others like him, do you think they're really up at night worried about Christine Blase Ford? Is this what they're motivated by protecting women? SCHLAPP: I mean, what the Democrats are worried about is the fact that they know that Judge Kavanaugh is incredibly qualified to be on -- INGRAHAM: It's Roe versus Wade, isn't it? And that's -- they're worried about it. SCHLAPP: In your mind it's not just only Roe versus Wade, but it's a fact that he is going to be that strict constitutionalist, that he is the one that is going to interpret the law, follow precedent and this idea that they feel like they're losing this battle. And I feel that that is just unjust. Because we know, Laura, looking at the fact that you've had individuals from a variety of legal experts, those from legal community supporting Judge Kavanaugh, knowing that he's well- respected in the legal circle. And the fact that they want to tear down his reputation, try to ruin his good name while this man, Judge Kavanaugh has said, I'm ready to testify today. INGRAHAM: A lot of conservatives think they shouldn't have delayed this hearing at all. The letter from the accuser's attorney tonight, Debra Katz, "As the Judiciary Committee has recognized and done before, an FBI investigation of the incident should be the first step in addressing her allegations. A full investigation by law enforcement officials will ensure that the crucial facts and witnesses in this matter are assessed in a nonpartisan manner, and that the committee is fully informed." She not going to be testifying on Monday. Only when an investigation is conducted and underway. Will the White House insist that this hearing go forward on Monday? SCHLAPP: Look, we are going to allow the Senate Judiciary Committee to make these decisions. It's in their hands. With that being said, Judge Kavanaugh has said I will testify. I will testify publicly. INGRAHAM: But this is a delaying tactic and this is political now. So what is the White House's political reaction to what is clearly a political move by the Democrats and by her attorney who is a Democrat activist? SCHLAPP: It is incredibly disturbing that they keep stalling, that they keep waiting. INGRAHAM: Why do you think they're doing that? SCHLAPP: Well, I mean, wou know why they're doing this. They know that October 1st, Supreme Court convenes. They don't want Brett Kavanaugh to be confirmed. It's very clear from their, again, like I mentioned what their playbook here. And the reality is that when you have Judge Kavanaugh, someone who is beloved -- INGRAHAM: They don't care. SCHLAPP: -- to someone who has -- INGRAHAM: They don't care. SCHLAPP: They don't care. And he's someone with such high integrity, someone who I personally worked with. I mean, Laura, we were both single. We were both in an office together dealing with judicial nominees. He was professional, respectful to all women. It goes on and on. But yes, they are willing at the last minute to throw something out there to see if it sticks when they had over six weeks to bring this up. And that's what is so disturbing. That's why it gets to the point that you have to realize that they are trying to ruin Judge Kavanaugh. INGRAHAM: Is the White House prepared to insist to the Senate or strongly recommend to the Senate to go forward with this Monday hearing or just to convene a vote? SCHLAPP: Look, the Senate Judiciary Committee will need to make that decision. We stand by Judge Kavanaugh. He is willing to testify publicly, privately, however the Senate deems fit. He is transparent. INGRAHAM: Rwo weeks from now? SCHLAPP: He is forthcoming. He wants -- we need to get this done. INGRAHAM: Mercedes, thank you for coming in tonight. We're going to be watching very closely over the next few days to see how this all develops with Kavanaugh. Brett Kavanaugh's accuser is now demanding a full investigation by the FBI before testifying in front of the senate. And a former top FBI official is here to tell us why that's an absurd request. Stay right there. INGRAHAM: The uproar surrounding the Brett Kavanaugh nomination to the Supreme Court is taking yet another dramatic turn this evening. The lawyer for Christine Blasey Ford says that Ford not will not testify in front of the Senate. Oh, that's a shock. I predicted that -- without a full investigation by the FBI first. But just moments ago, Chuck Grassley, the ranking Republican on the committee, just released a statement saying he will not move Monday's date. Yes! Joining us now with reaction is former FBI national spokesperson, John Annarrelli. John, Grassley obviously did the right thing. This is the worst gamesmanship I've seen when it comes to Supreme Court confirmation. But the idea that the FBI has a role here. Hillary Clinton tonight said that there should be a two- week pause in the proceedings. So, facts can be gathered, witnesses can be interviewed and the process should be slowed down. Your reaction. JOHN ANNARELLI, FORMER FBI NATIONAL SPOKESPERSON: I think Hillary would like a recount if she could have one, but the reality is, former presidential candidates don't get to decide what the FBI does. The reality is, the FBI conducts national security investigations for these types of instance. That investigation has already been completed. There was nothing derogatory found and that's why it's moved forward. To go back and do an investigation now would not serve any purpose for what the FBI does. INGRAHAM: Well, this has come up in the last 24 hours because I think they got all ahead of themselves because this woman comes out, makes this allegation, says she doesn't remember many details except apparently what, you know, the judge allegedly did as a high school student. But doesn't remember where it was, when it was. But now somehow she wanted to testify 24 hours ago, 24 hours later, no, now it's hot potato ticket to the FBI. Now, if you're an FBI official and you have stacks of stuff to do, are you now sent on a wild goose chase to go and, you know, scour every Chevy Chase (inaudible) home for who has a pool and where there was a pool party 36 years ago? ANNARELLI: You know, something may have happened to this woman. We shouldn't discount that she has a memory of something, whether or not it involved Judge Kavanaugh or somebody else because it's been 36 years. Memories fade. But more importantly, this is the type of crime, a sex offense that's being alleged. It's handled by the local authorities. The FBI does not have jurisdiction for those cases. INGRAHAM: A federal law enforcement official told Fox tonight, it's totally inappropriate for someone to demand that we use law enforcement resources to investigate a 36-year-old allegation when she won't go under oath and can't remember any key details including when or where it happened. ANNARELLI: Well law enforcement is only going to investigate something if there's a cooperative witness. The person first thing this person should do, whether through her attorney herself, go to the local police and make a complaint. Let the (inaudible) for authorities. INGRAHAM: You can't. The statute of limitations is (inaudible). There's no complaint you can make. ANNARELLI: Well, in Maryland, depending upon the crime, there may actually be a statute of limitations. Unless there's something that could be prosecuted, a prosecutor says, we're going to investigate -- INGRAHAM: What prosecutor is going to take this case, John? Come on. ANNARELLI: No one. INGRAHAM: It's ridiculous. I'm sorry. You're being much more judicious. This is a late in the game allegation made after a guy has had six FBI background checks. His character has been attested to by dozens of dozens of women that worked with him, who dated him, went to high school, college, worked with him after. And I'm one of them because I've known him for 28 years. And what is happening and now these Democrats out there saying we have to go to the FBI? Can this get more ridiculous at this point? ANNARELLI: Well, and I want to be clear that I'm talking about the process. If you have a complaint, there's a method to do it. Don't make the FBI your political animal to try do handle things the way your political party may want it to be. INGRAHAM: All right, John, thanks so much. And in reaction to the accusations by Christine Blasey Ford against Kavanaugh, we've heard a constant refrain. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DEBRA KATZ, ATTORNEY FOR CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD (voice-over): She has taken a polygraph. She's a credible person. She's a serious allegations. CYNTHIA ALKSNE, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: I think it's amazing that she passed that polygraph. In fact, I would love it if maybe Judge Kavanaugh wants to get on the -- we call it being on the box. ANELA RYE, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: We're immediately questioning her credibility despite the fact that she has passed the polygraph test. (END VIDEOCLIP) INGRAHAM: That her polygraphs be taken seriously? Well joining us now with answers is Thomas Mariello, a former polygraph expert at the DOD and a current professor of criminology in the University of Maryland and we're also joined by Peggy Nance, the president of Concerned Women for America who is herself a rape victim and she has serious questions about Ms. Ford's claims. Thank you to both of your for being here today. Thomas, I want to begin with you on the reliability of polygraphs because I think a lot of people out there hear, oh, she passed the lie detector test in August. What does that really mean and how important would that be even if this were a prosecutable crime? THOMAS MAURIELLO, FORMER DOD SENIOR POLYGRAPH EXAMINIER: It means absolutely nothing. First of all, we have to understand that the polygraph is not a lie detector. It has never been and hopefully it never will be. I never used the world pass or fail. I either say successful or not successful. But when somebody says they passed a test that simply means that they didn't react to certain questions that were asked. You have to ask what were the questions? How were they asked? How were they formulated? What did the examiner say to you before the test began? All of those things affect how a person is going to react. And most importantly, what is the reaction? It's not a lie. The reaction is simply -- your sympathetic nervous system, hearing a question and deciding whether it's threatening or not. And it could be threatening for a lot of different reasons other than you're going to tell the truth or not. INGRAHAM: Peggy, setting aside the polygraph issue which I think we just demonstrated clearly, is not some big plus or minus in this case. You have serious doubts about the case as it's alleged, the incident as alleged. Why? PEGGY NANCE, PRESIDENT, CONCERNED WOMEN FOR AMERICA: Well, first, may I correct you? I actually am a victim of physical assault and attempted rape and that was over 20 years ago, but I can tell you, I remember every single detail. And you know, I think probably something did happen to this woman. But we should all want justice. And there's no justice in destroying a man's reputation, destroying his career based on allegations that, you know, are unprovable. So all of this -- the Democrats hope that this is more about gender identity politics. But Concerned Women for America are still standing firmly behind Judge Kavanaugh. We will be there Monday in support of him as we've been throughout this process. It has been a circus. I have watched as they have disrupted. Activists have yelled and screamed and disrupted the decorum of the Senate. I've seen women parading around as handmaids, and believe me, as I tell you, grown men dressed as human condoms. This has been a circus, and it's an outrage, and this has really damaged the credibility and the dignity of the Senate. INGRAHAM: I want to play another sound bite. This goes back to what John Iannarelli was talking about, about this idea, well, we'll wait two weeks, we'll do an investigation by the FBI. and anyone who doesn't think an FBI investigation should go forth is clearly anti-victim. You don't want women to be heard. It makes no sense. Of course, we want her to be heard. She can be heard Monday. I think she could have been heard today or maybe tomorrow or Friday. But she could be heard Monday. She doesn't want to be heard. Kamala Harris came out today and said this. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. KAMALA HARRIS, (D) CALIFORNIA: I believe that the FBI, to your point, should be compelled to do its job in terms of doing -- completing their background investigation. And that's not being done. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: They haven't completed the background investigation. I want to go to John again on this because you see what is happening. The senators are lining up, pointing at the FBI. So it's either, well, she pass add lie detector test. This is -- she's representing all women who have been victims of sexual assault. She's kind of a representative of women. Again, God bless her, whatever happened to her. Now it's FBI do your job, and anyone who stands in the way, you're part of the problem. You're anti- woman, you're anti-sexual abuse victim. JOHN IANNARELLI, FORMER FBI NATIONAL SPOKESPERSON: The FBI's job is to conduct a national security investigation which has been done. It's not taking a position on women issues, political issues, et cetera. And to be ordered to go do something that is out of the realm of what they're supposed to be doing is trying to politicize the bureau. INGRAHAM: And remember, Dianne Feinstein today said she can't even say that everything is truthful that the accuser is accusing Brett Kavanaugh of. Everybody, thank you so much for being here tonight. The Democrats are in a total frenzy over the Kavanaugh accusations as we've been talking about. So naturally they're applying the same standards to the domestic abuse standards against Democratic Congressman Keith Ellison. Right? Don't hold your breath. Details next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUANITA BROADDRICK, BILL CLINTON ACCUSER: It makes me go back to 1999 when Dianne Feinstein along with every other Democrat refused to read my deposition to the independent counsel. They wouldn't have nothing to do with it. That just shows you the difference and the double standard that existed back then and still does today. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was Juanita Broaddrick speaking about her experience dealing with the Democrats when she herself brought claims of rape against former President Bill Clinton. Sadly, it seems much has not changed. While Democrats howl for answers from Brett Kavanaugh in an opaque charge, they're not asking the same of DNC co-chair Keith Ellison. Last month his former girlfriend, Karen Monahan, alleged that Ellison sent her threatening text messages and once screamed obscenities at her as he dragged her off a bed by her feet. No calls for his resignation. And the investigation the DNC said it was launching has pretty much gone silent. Joining us now with reaction, Monica Crowley from the Center for Policy Research, and Anthony Tall, an attorney and Democratic strategist. Let's go to you first, Monica. It's wild to go back and think about what was said back in 98 and so forth. But tonight, Hillary Clinton was asked about due process regarding sexual assault allegations by Rachel Maddow. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RACHEL MADDOW, MSNBC HOST: Have we learned anything about due process not just for accusers but also for the accused? HILLARY CLINTON, (D) FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think that you have to take each of these situations on their own merits. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Monica? MONICA CROWLEY, LONDON CENTER FOR POLICY RESEARCH: That is rich coming from Mrs. Clinton whose own husband was alleged to have raped Juanita Broaddrick, my good friend, and sexually assaulted any number of women. And she not only stood by her man but she also led the charge to discredit, smear, and threaten those women to come forward 20 odd years ago to accuse her husband. Look, Laura, this is the rot of hypocrisy. Democratic Party of today is now back to being the party of Bill Clinton, full of hypocrites on this matter. You saw the case of Keith Ellison. In that case, we have got police reports, we've got an alleged video, and yet little to no media coverage. So what we now see is the Democratic Party is willing to shield potential women abusers in the name of politics, ideology, and promotion. INGRAHAM: Anthony, this is Karen Monahan, her comment on whether her party, Democratic Party, believed her allegations. She said "Mo, they don't. I've been smeared, threatened, isolated from my own party. I provided medical records from 2017 stating on two different doctors' visits I told them about the abuse and who did it. My therapist released records stating that I've been dealing and healing from the abuse." That's 2017. It's not 36 years ago. But not a peep from the Democrats who care so much about women, Anthony. ANTHONY TALL, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I think one of the problems with her story is that there's a lot of Democrats that don't believe her story. I believe there's something about some text messages and the text messages haven't been there and been supported. With regard to Kavanaugh in this case, the accuser does have a corroborating witness which was 2012. So I think that's one of the problems -- INGRAHAM: Anthony, wait a second. This is 2017. She talked to a therapist in 2017. Medical records that were released, doctors' notes, and she said she's been smeared, including apparently by Democrats. You said, well, the problem is Democrats don't believe her. No kidding. That goes to the point that some allegations have merit. The allegations against Democrats have no merit and the allegations against Brett Kavanaugh from 36 years ago should end a Supreme Court nomination. Ellison is in Congress. TALL: Well, he has a two-year term. And this guy is going up for a term that is going to last -- INGRAHAM: So that's it? TALL: Laura, as a criminal defense attorney, trust me, I believe that Judge Kavanaugh should have the right, and I believe that everything should come out and he should be heard. I'm all in favor of that. But I hope at one point in time that he realizes or he feels that all of the people, whether they're poor, white, blacks, or Hispanics that come before him, now perhaps he sees how they feel to be accused of something and have a whole system come at you and whether it's fair or unfair. So I think this is a good thing for him to learn. CROWLEY: Laura -- INGRAHAM: Oh, my God, Anthony. Anthony, I adore you, but I can't believe you said that. A good thing for him to learn? It's a complete, utter outrage. Monica, sorry. That's ridiculous. CROWLEY: To be clear about Keith Ellison's, he's the Democrats number two man, number two at the DNC, and he's running to be attorney general of a major state, Minnesota, and he probably has higher political aspirations than that. So the idea that the Democrats are protecting him while running wild on Brett Kavanaugh is a disgrace. Laura, this is all about the broader war on Donald Trump and his agenda. Brett Kavanaugh is just the latest proxy in this war, to take down this president, undermine his agenda, make it stillborn, and destroy all of his appointees and anybody that dares to serve this president or to be appointed by this president. It is about Roe versus Wade, of course, but it is also about undermining and ultimately taking down this president. INGRAHAM: Anthony, do you think that the accuser should be testifying on Monday? Her lawyer said she would testify yesterday, do anything to get her story out, but now she's not testifying Monday. TALL: Well, yes, it was my understanding that she was going to testify. I think she should testify. But now she is saying she wants the FBI to investigate this situation. And remember, this is not unlikely for victims to come forward with years later. That happens all the time. I believe that Kavanaugh has a right to put his side of the story out, and I believe she has a right to put her side of the story out. INGRAHAM: The FBI doesn't investigate -- TALL: But one thing we need to remember is that this is a lifetime appointment. It's a lifetime appointment. INGRAHAM: We get that. When you say that, that's what this is about. I think most people will never get to the bottom of this. This is about the Supreme Court. It's not about whether you're protecting women or you think this is a woman's issue. This is just rank politics. And I think the more that we just say that and dispense with this idea that we're going to find out what happened at a pool party in 1983 is just easier for everybody, it's just about whether you're going to have a lifetime appointment on the court, period. I don't think it's about women. Otherwise they would be concerned about Keith Ellison. Guys, thanks so much. TALL: But, Laura -- INGRAHAM: We're out of time. We're going to go to black space. Critical Russia probe documents ordered declassified by President Trump set to become public at any moment. We've got new details on the political earthquake that may follow in a moment. And the Emmys Awards hit religion and conservatives, what a shock. The fallout with Raymond Arroyo coming up. INGRAHAM: It was big news last night. President Trump taking matters into his own hands with regard to the declassification of materials related to the Russia investigation. This is hot. He calls for these documents to be declassified. It's already sent shockwave through the intel communities both past and present. One of the president's biggest critics levelled this challenge on Andrea Mitchell's show. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY: Christopher Wray, director of the FBI, and Dan Coats, director of National Intelligence, as well as Rod Rosenstein who is overseeing this investigation, should push back against any directive that is going to have negative impact on our capabilities as well as the investigation. If Mr. Trump and the White House does not relent, then I think they have some decisions to make, whether or not they're going to just not follow that direction and be fired, or to resign. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So Brennan is telling people to practice rank insubordination. Joining us now to discuss, FOX News contributor, former House Oversight Committee Chair, Jason Chaffetz. He's also the author of the book just out today, "The Deep State, How an Army of Bureaucrats Protected Barack Obama and is Working to Destroy the Trump Agenda." He joins us now. Jason, this is wild. And it's good timing for your book out today. Here we have got Brennan saying what he said. Clapper comes out tonight on another show and says it's unethical for the president to declassify this material. What of this? JASON CHAFFETZ, FORMER HOUSE OVERSIGHT CHAIR: The president of the United States, Donald Trump, he is the only constitutional officer that the people have entrusted to make these decisions, not these other yahoos. I know the president was talking about revoking their security clearances. I hope that's already happened. If they need another excuse, there it is. But the president is pushing for openness, for transparency, for accountability, everything the people want. And why are the Democrats so scared of this? Because their little charade is going to be exposed. INGRAHAM: Adam Schiff came out today, and he talked about a red line. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF, (D) RANKING MEMBER, HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: This is what the director of the FBI, the Republican appointed director of the FBI, Christopher Wray, has told us in terms of it being a red line and it should be treated at a gang of eight level. This is what the deputy attorney general appointed by the administration by a Republican president has told us. So this is the view of the intelligence community and law enforcement, and that ought to be respected. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: The head of law enforcement, the head of the intelligence is the president of the United States, Adam Schiff. And when you put out your document saying that if Devin Nunes released his memo, remember that, a few months ago, that the world would burn to the crisp, it didn't happen. You have no credibility, Adam Schiff. None. INGRAHAM: Well, what is interesting about this is that we have learned things in dribs and drabs about, first, the insurance policy, then we learned that there really was no evidence of Russian collusion to even kickoff the FISA warrant application. But they had to scramble. Then there were media leaks. There was a strategy it looks like of media leaks. So there was a constant feedback loop to indicate more of a need for more surveillance and more of an investigation. And then moving on to Mueller. And I think the more we learn about this, Jason, the uglier it gets. And I think that's what Brennan is sweating about. CHAFFETZ: No, his little charade is about to be exposed. They all thought that Hillary Clinton would become the president, all of this would be covered up, and we would never hear about this. Then the unthinkable happened. A transformative president, an unconventional president in Donald Trump, and all of a sudden they are scrambling. You have Director Comey advocating vote for Democrats because in this election they want to shut all this investigation. They want to shut it down. And that's what would happen if Adam Schiff became the head of the intel committee as opposed to, say, a Devin Nunes. INGRAHAM: Exactly. Thanks so much, Jason. Last night's Emmys Awards show just how far Hollywood has moved away from America. But one unplanned moment stole the show. What was it? Arroyo here to explain, next. INGRAHAM: Last night Hollywood celebrated television and themselves at the Emmys. Along the way of course they bashed religion and conservatives, but they also revealed something important. For all the grisly details, we're joined by Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series. Raymond, what happened at these weird and wacky Emmys? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: NBC gave the producing responsibility to Lorne Michaels who oversees "SNL." This became like an extended "Saturday Night Live" sketch. Alec Baldwin, Kate McKinnon, they were all there. And it opened with this very self-aware, tone deaf, odd song about how diverse TV has become and how they solved it. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So diversity is not a problem in Hollywood anymore? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. We solved it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That is wonderful news. (SINGING) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We solved it. We've gotten with the times. There's room for all of our voices, but mostly Shonda Rhimes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We all welcome Asian people, we gave you that one show. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And who can put it, the amazing Sandra Oh. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: It always helps if you can sing when you do a musical number, I always say, Laura. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: That is the worst. Oh, my gosh. ARROYO: Prime time television. And Michael Che, later who was actually one of the cohosts, and Colin Jost, the weekend update guys, they were the official hosts of this affair. Che said something that you never mention at award ceremonies or anywhere else. Religion and politics. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL CHE, "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE" CO-ANCHOR: My mother is not watching. COLIN JOST, "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE" CO-ANCHOR: What? CHE: Well, she said she doesn't like watching white award shows because you guys don't thank Jesus enough. (LAUGHTER) JOST: That's true. (LAUGHTER) CHE: The only people -- the only white people that thank Jesus are Republicans and ex-crack heads. REGINA KING, ACTRESS: I don't have anything to say, because I wasn't expecting this. But I am so grateful. It's just amazing. I want to curse right now. This is good. Thank you, Jesus. Michael Che. (APPLAUSE) THANDIE NEWTON, ACTRESS: I don't even believe in God, but I'm going to thank her tonight. (APPLAUSE) NEWTON: I am so blessed, I am so blessed. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Thandie Newton there demonstrates how out of touch this community is with the viewers. You don't disparage God and you don't mention Jesus, politicize him, and mention crackheads. It fell flat, the whole evening. When Betty White, who is 96 years old, becomes the highlight of this thing for no reason except the fact that she's Betty White, that's why she showed up, you know you're in trouble. There was moment that you will like. Michael Che awarded a tongue-in-cheek reparation Emmys to some black TV legends who were not recognized in the past. This was actually kind of funny. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL CHE: Mrs. Marla Gibbs, we would like to present to you this reparations Emmy. Your role as Florence the maid is the reason why I got fired from every service job I've ever had. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you, I think. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is this the real Emmy? CHE: Yes, the real thing. What do you think? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I cannot believe this. I just got one word for this thing. CHE: Say it. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is dynamic. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: No dynamite that time. This was funny. You know why this worked? There were actual legends in TV that we all recognized. The rest of the show were populated by people -- it's not the fault of the performers, but television is so shattered. It was all these streaming shows that none of us have time to watch. INGRAHAM: I don't even know who Michael Che is. Marla Gibbs, "The Jeffersons" was one of the funniest shows -- I still watch it. You gave it to me. ARROYO: I gave you the whole set. Hilarious. You know what stole the show this year? INGRAHAM: What? ARROYO: A marriage proposal by the director of the Oscars. He got up, proposed to his girlfriend, Jan. It was the take-away of the evening. The lowest ratings Emmys of all time. INGRAHAM: Shock. Attack Trump, religion. ARROYO: They should have more wedding engagements. INGRAHAM: Television, RIP, except right here. We'll be right back, a special announcement about tomorrow's show. INGRAHAM: Before we go, an important note about tomorrow night's show. We'll have an exclusive interview with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. We're going to ask him about China, North Korea, a lot of developments on both fronts. And there's also an undercover video that was revealing an employee talking about a resistance movement inside his department. Don't miss that. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" are on all the new details on Kavanaugh and a lot more. Shannon, take it away. Load-Date: September 19, 2018 End of Document Trump Declassifies FISA Document; Dems Attempt to Derail Kavanaugh Confirmation; Interview with Senator Lindsey Graham; President Trump is Said to Approve the Release of Unredacted Documents of the FBI about the FISA Applications; Democrats are Trying to Stop Judge Brett Kavanaugh's Confirmation Hearing by Bringing Up an Issue about an Alleged Sexual Harassment by the Judge Way Back Three Decades Ago; Judge Kavanaugh Strongly Denies the Allegation and Says He's Willing to Clear His Name Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 17, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7786 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Catherine Herridge, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Ed Henry Guests: Lindsey Graham, John Solomon, Jay Sekulow Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Welcome to HANNITY. This is a Fox News alert. Explosive news from the White House and all over the place tonight, the president has, in fact, now ordered the DOJ to immediately declassify the redacted sections of the Carter Page FISA documents. He's also ordered the immediate release of the FBI's interview notes with Carter Page, and this is huge news. All Russia related texts, and messages from Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Bruce Ohr, were also be released unredacted. Now, this might be the biggest development reported to date. We'll give you the details. It is truly a deep state house of cards collapsing as I have been predicting, right before our very eyes. Now, Carter Page, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, John Solomon with breaking news, all here with reaction. Also tonight, you were mourned right here on this program numerous times how Democrats will try to bork Judge Kavanaugh, accusations of misconduct, of course, they must be taken seriously. But Democrats, they don't seem to be interested in getting to the truth, all they wanted from the beginning is to delay and ultimately derail Kavanaugh's confirmation. The president is fully standing by the nominee at this hour. And coming up, we will expose the shameful dirty tactics from the left in America. We also have a bombshell develop it as it relates to Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. New transcripts from her congressional testimony just released tonight and page admitting they saw no proof at all of any Russian collusion. This was nine months in. It's been a witch hunt and remains a witch hunt. Buckle up. We have a lot of news to cover in two nights breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. For months, right here on this program, we have been asking for the unredacted FISA documents to be released. Now, the president has done it. Pages 10 through 12, 17 through 34, very specific, all FBI reports of Russia-related interviews with Bruce Ohr, all FBI reports of interviews in connection with all of Carter Page's FISA applications will be released to you, the American people, oh, like a Spartacus moment. Now, we're talking about possible exculpatory information, things that they have hidden and lies that will be revealed. We have new revelations on Christopher Steele and his dirty dossier that Hillary paid for, new information on the deep states' attempt to take down the president both before and destroy him after the election. Now, this is huge news. We are expecting these documents any time. We will update you as of course they become available. Also tonight, Catherine Herridge will join us with a full report right out of our monologue. But, first, we must addressed and we begin tonight with the Democrats' blatant attempts to derail the Kavanaugh confirmation. Now, the first scheduled both in the Senate have now been delayed one week from tonight -- or today, actually, the Senate Judiciary Committee will hold an open question. Judge Kavanaugh will be there in order to address what is a 36- year-old sexual misconduct allegations from his teenage years. His accuser has also been asked to testify. No word as to a confirmation if she will be appearing. Now, this comes after Senator Dianne Feinstein out of the blue released a cryptic statement last week about an anonymous individual who is now accusing Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct, when they were both in high school, in like 1982, but they don't know the exact year. That's a charge he categorically denied. Now, keep in mind, Dianne Feinstein, all her fellow Democrats, they have had this information since July. But she didn't ask Judge Kavanaugh about the allegations during any of the private meetings she had with him. She didn't ask the judge about it during any of the public testimony that they had, none. Not once. She didn't inform any of her Republican colleagues, she didn't report the event to authorities until just last week. We are asking the question, why? Now as it appears to be unfair to all parties involved here, and more unfairly to you, the American people. Now, this was mentioned earlier today by Senator Susan Collins of Maine, questioning why Democrats purposely withheld this information from the public. Is it political? We'll let you decide. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. SUSAN COLLINS (R), MAINE: Last week, the Judiciary Committee staff informed me of this letter. I read the letter. At that point, we had no idea who had sent it. And I noticed the date of the letter and wondered why the information had not been released long ago. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: It's a great question and she is correct. Now, president also weighed on this earlier today. Let's listen to what he had to say. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Judge Kavanaugh is one of the finest people that I have ever known. He's an outstanding intellect and outstanding judge, respected by everybody, never had even a little blemish on his record. The FBI has, I think, gone through the process six times with him over the years where he went to a higher and higher position. He is somebody very special. As I understand it, Judge Kavanaugh spent quite a bit of time with Senator Feinstein and it wasn't even brought up at that meeting. And she had this information. So you would have thought certainly that she would have brought that up at the meeting, not wait until everything is finished and then have to start the process all over again. But with all of that being said, we want to go through the full process. I have great confidence in the U.S. Senate and of their procedures and what they are doing, and I think that's probably what they're going to do. It will go through the process and hear everybody out. I'd like to see a complete process. I'd like everybody to be very happy. Most importantly, I want the American people to be happy because they're getting somebody that is great. I want him to going at the absolute highest level. And I think to do that you have to go through this. If it takes a little delay, it will take a little delay. It shouldn't certainly be very much. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He's talking about transparency. If it takes a little delay, it should take a little delay, but they had it back in July. We've known from the beginning, the Democrats' goal from day one, their aim has always been to delay, derail, malign the character of Judge Kavanaugh. That is their history. Now, we saw it on display in the hearings, it was a disaster for the Democrats. You shouldn't be surprised, Senate Democrats have been up and using the same tactics, the same playbook for a long, long time. We'll go back. I reminded you at the time of the announcement that Judge Kavanaugh was picked to replace Anthony Kennedy on the Supreme Court. I reminded you of the Democratic senator from Massachusetts, Chappaquiddick Ted Kennedy. Remember, he's a guy responsible for literally wrecking the confirmation of Judge Robert Bork and, by the way, that's years after he drunkenly wrecked his car, dries it into the river and has a female passenger in the car. He gets up out of the water and he goes home and doesn't tell a soul. Mary Jo Kopechne died. Still, that guy was impugning the character of somebody else, in this case, it was Judge Bork. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. TED KENNEDY (D), MASSACHUSETTS: Robert Bork's America is a land of which women would be forced into a back alley abortion, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizen stores in midnight raids, and school children could not be taught about evolution. Writers and artists would be censored at the whim of government. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Fears, (INAUDIBLE) and character assassination, a disgusting and gross injustice. And don't forget, one Senate Democrats, they ruled out Judge Clarence's former colleague, Anita Hill, during his hearings, and she made a late allegation of sexual harassment against him. Now, this character assassination was so vicious and horrible and nasty and unjust, well, Clarence Thomas spoke for himself, even he called it a high- tech lynching. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CLARENCE THOMAS, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE: This is a circus. It's a national disgrace. And from my point, as a black American, as far as I'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas. And it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured, by a committee of the U.S. Senate rather than hung from a tree. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He became and has been one of our greatest justices. Flash forward to today, more allegations pushed by Democrats, this time nearly 40 years old. And now, the ones anonymous Kavanaugh accuser has come forward. Her name is Professor Christine Ford. She's a clinical psychology professor in northern California. She told "The Washington Post" that in the early `80s, Kavanaugh trapped her in a room as they were teenagers and groped her. This allegedly occurred at a high school party as they were both teenagers and she was in a swimsuit and other clothes and he was grabbing her. And Professor Ford's account, I would argue, has to be taken seriously as the president said. Both Kavanaugh and Ford will rightly have their opportunity to speak under oath, something Judge Kavanaugh has been pushing for as today he released a statement. Quote: This is a completely false allegation. I have never done anything like what the accuser describes to her or to anyone because this never happened. I had no idea who is making this accusation until she identified herself yesterday. I'm willing to talk to the Senate Judiciary Committee in any way the committee deems appropriate to refute this false allegation from 36 years ago and defend my integrity. There's also a group of 65 women who knew Kavanaugh at the time back in high school and they are releasing a letter and backing him up. There letter praised his friendship, his character and his integrity. And now, some of those women are also speaking out. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MONICA MASTAL: There are plenty of people testified with him who were on both sides of the fence, whether they were other law firms or, you know, other attorneys in other ways that appeared before Judge Kavanaugh. Either side, male or female have just attested to his integrity and how honorable he is in treating everyone. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's just so polar office opposite of the Brett Kavanaugh I've known for the last 35 years. I was confused, surprised and shocked. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I never saw him out of control drunk. He always retained his comic composure. He was a responsible guy and he was someone who would have a beer but he was never out of control and he never became someone different after drinking. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Those are two women that dated Judge Kavanaugh back at that time. Now, tonight, many are rushing to his defense. New development's are casting serious doubt on the accusations against Judge Kavanaugh. According to Senator Orrin Hatch, Kavanaugh is even denying his presence at the party described by his accuser. Dr. Ford, or Professor Ford herself is foggy on the important facts about the allegations. She told "The Washington Post" that, quote, she doesn't remember some of the key details in the incident. She's also not only unclear about the exact date but the exact year. A man who Ford listed as a witness to the alleged assault that she says was in the room named Mark Judge, he's also flatly rejecting her claims. He told "The Weekly Standard" that is absolutely nuts. I never saw Brett ever act that way. And meanwhile, Professor Ford hired a high profile attorney. That attorney's name is Debra Katz. That's a person who has donated tens of thousands of dollars to Democrats, including Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. There's no evidence that this is political, but it is background in the story. According to a townhall.com piece, she trashed Trump and his advisors on social media. She once stood up and defended Senator Al Franken when he was facing misconduct allegations. She repeatedly cast out on the credibility of the Paula Jones accusations against Bill Clinton, that is what I would say is not exactly a consistent record of supporting victims of sexual misconduct. Now, by the way, based on the history of the Democratic Party, what I'm telling America tonight, we are a nation of laws, we believe in the presumption of innocence in the country. And we also look at facts. I think the American people should have an opportunity to hear from the 65 women, Judge Kavanaugh, they should be able to hear from the professor, be able to hear from her attorney, be able to hear from people who clerked for Judge Kavanaugh, people that went to law school and high school with him and then let the American people decide. I believe the American people are fair-minded people. Sadly, it's a serious matter and we welcome testimony from everybody involved. Professor Ford, Judge Kavanaugh, any of the women who have known Judge Kavanaugh during his 36 plus years since. And by the way, that would include the mothers from the girls he coached on his daughter's team. By the way, his daughters are paying very close attention tonight, sadly, I'm sure. And any of the women that worked with him in the White House on the Bush administration. Now, today, ahead of his upcoming hearing, Kavanaugh participated in a conference call with senators and he responded to the charges and Democrats did not participate. Why not? Don't they want to get both sides? Don't they want to get both sides? Don't they want to at least hear his side of it? Have they prejudged this case? Do they not believe in the presumption of innocence, or do they just care about politics? Is this just another opportunity? We saw what happened to Robert Bork. We saw what happened in the case of Clarence Thomas. Now, let me be very clear here -- I don't know, I wasn't there. But I do believe in the presumption of innocence. All Americans should have an open mind, all side should be heard. But I will say this, it's a preview of what Democrats will do if they take control of Congress in 51 days. We have midterm elections. We know that the left has no plan to make this country better for the forgotten men and women in this country. We've seen their actions in the past. We know what their agenda is. Not only obstructing and smearing and slandering the president on a minute-by-minute basis, preventing him if they could from doing anything. We also know they want open borders. We also know that they want to keep Obamacare and they want their crumbs back and they don't want constitutionalists qualifying judges with a track record like Judge Kavanaugh on any court, never mind the Supreme Court. We know the Democrat detest the president and his agenda, and even the Americans who support them. Don't take it from me. Listen to what Crazy Uncle Joe Biden said over the weekend. This should shock you. This is beyond irredeemable deplorables. This is beyond clinging to god, guns, religion and bibles. This is beyond the smelly people that support Trump that I can smell them in Walmart. Listen to Crazy Uncle Joe and what he had to say. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOE BIDEN, FORMER PRESIDENT: Despite losing in the courts and in the court of public opinion, these forces have of intolerance remained to undermine and roll back the progress you all have made. This time, they, not you, have an ally in the White House. This time, they have an ally. There are small percentages of American people, virulent people. Some of them, the dregs of society. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Let me get that, if you support Trump, think you are the dregs of society. Make no mistake, Democrats will also end important investigations into the deep state, we are on the verge of breaking it wide open, including the ongoing inquiry into Strzok and Page. And, of course, we have so much new information tonight to uncover. Just today, we learned that Lisa Page testified under oath that the FBI had no evidence linking Trump to Russian collusion before Robert Mueller was ever appointed. In July, she told lawmakers behind close doors that months and months of series investigations turned up empty. She said, quote, it's a reflection of us still not knowing and it still existed in the scope of possibility that there would be literally nothing. Remember, one day after Mueller was appointed, Strzok texted Page, you and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely I'd be there. No question. I hesitated in part because of my gut sense and concern that there is no big there there. But they still appointed, which would explain why they were all leaking, which we have disclosed in recent weeks. This is why Mueller's investigation into so-called collusion has been and remains a total witch hunt. There never was any Russian collusion. Everyone in the DOJ and FBI knew it, and Lisa Page testified to that fact, and that's why all the leaking took place. They were leaking in the hopes they would get an investigation just to get Trump the insurance policy. This is why Strzok texted Page: Sitting with Bill watching CNN, a ton more out. Hey, let me know when you can talk. We're discussing whether now that this is out, we use it as a pretext to go interview some people. A pretext? To use the power of your office to go after people in the FBI? No evidence, they want a special prosecutor so they leak to get it? Now, we're going to have a lot of deep state coverage throughout the show, but first, we have new information on the president's decision to classify a series of important documents. Our own Catherine Herridge has that report tonight -- Catherine. CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Thanks, Sean. There is no official timeline, though a source familiar with the declassification told Fox News they expect the surveillance warrant for Trump campaign aide Carter Page first, as well as FBI interviews with Justice Department official Bruce Ohr. The source said the Justice Department is a compressed timeline and records could come in days, not weeks. Bruce Ohr matters to the Russia case because of his connection to the Trump dossier. After the former British spy behind the dossier was fired by the FBI in November 2016, documents show that the British spy, Christopher Steele, maintained contact with the FBI and other government officials by using Bruce Ohr as a back channel. The release also calls for the unprecedented, publicly available records. The text messages related to Russia, clean copies without sections blacked out. Former FBI Director James Comey, his deputy Andrew McCabe or as well as former FBI agent Peter Strzok, and former FBI lawyer Lisa Page. The source said that process may take longer because of the sheer volume of messages. This comes as Fox News confirms new details about the Russia probes' findings. During her July closed door testimony, a transcript reviewed by Fox News shows that Page said the FBI investigation had not yielded hard evidence of Russian collusion nine months into the case. Special counsel Robert Mueller was appointed in May 2017. Tonight, a Justice Department spokesperson told Fox they are already working on the president's request. The Office for the Director of National Intelligence that oversees the 15 agencies used the word expeditiously. Meantime, the House Intelligence Committee's ranking Democrat, Adam Schiff, called the president's move, quote, an abuse of power, not about transparency -- Sean. HANNITY: All right. Catherine Herridge, reporting in Washington, thank you. Joining us now is South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. Senator, why if -- SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Yes. HANNITY: -- why if the Democratic Party had this in July, why did they hold it? I agree with Senator Collins. I thought she was very, very -- GRAHAM: She was. HANNITY: Very smart in her comments, it's not fair to anybody here. GRAHAM: Right. Well, here's what I would say. If I believe the person in front of me had committed a serious offense that would disqualify them from being on the Supreme Court, I would bring it up to them, I would not let that go unchallenged. So, here's what I'm going to do. This is not that complicated. It's a 36- year-old allegation. It's a serious allegation. Everybody needs to be heard but also people need to defend themselves. I'm going to look at what she said about Brett Kavanaugh in high school and compare that to everything else I know about Brett Kavanaugh, including his denial and I'll make the decision. And here's what I want your audience to know. If Ms. Ford really did not want to come forward, never intended to come forward, never planned to come forward, why did she pay for a polygraph in August and why did she hire a lawyer in August if she never intended to do what she is doing? HANNITY: Nobody else has made that point, Senator. It's poignant point and an interesting question. GRAHAM: And who paid for it? HANNITY: Has she agreed to be interviewed or go before the Senate committee? GRAHAM: I don't know. HANNITY: I'm sorry? GRAHAM: She's welcome to come. We're going to have a hearing Monday, she can come if she likes, if she doesn't want to she doesn't have to. Kavanaugh can come if he would like, I think he will. We're going to vote on Wednesday. All I can say is that I've been a prosecutor, a judge and a defense counsel all of my life before I got into politics. This case could not go before a criminal court because it's too old and no lawyer would bring it as a civil suit because it's just too hard to prove. The question for the Senate, is there really enough evidence here given the nature of the allegation, how old it is in the uncertain nature of it, to deny this man who has lived an incredible life of a promotion to the Supreme Court? And if it was this bad why did not the Democrats challenged Judge Kavanaugh when he was sitting right there in front of them? HANNITY: Why is your speculate -- what is the answer to that? Why didn't they bring it forward? GRAHAM: I think it's part of a pattern. They can't beat him on the law so they are trying to destroy his life. If the conservative had added a tape of a liberal nominee to the court where that they take the words and turn them upside down, they try to suggest that Judge Kavanaugh used the term abortion inducing drugs when it was the plaintiff, the Priests for Life. Remember what Kamala Harris did to Judge Kavanaugh, try to put words in his mouth? Remember what they tried to say that he had some stolen documents when he did not. So, there's been a pattern of Democrats in this committee to take the words out of context and try to accuse him of things he had nothing to do with. And the last straw here is this allegation that came about last Thursday, and again. Why did they ask him on it before? HANNITY: The president made a decision tonight on redacting information, FISA, 302s, other information. But we also learned about the FBI and DOJ and other intelligence officials at the highest level leaking information to the media and Lisa Page saying they didn't have any evidence. Did they leak to get the special counsel like Comey admitted he did? GRAHAM: All I can say is this is the most corrupt thing I've ever in my life. If the shoe were on the other foot, if the FBI agent liked Trump and hated Clinton and they got a dossier paid for by the Republican Party, it would be front page news everywhere. I'm glad the president let this information out to the public to show how corrupt it was. As to Kavanaugh, he's going to get his day in court as well as Ms. Ford, and I'm going to look at everything in Judge Kavanaugh's life, not just this one accusation. HANNITY: But you and I agree -- GRAHAM: And I feel good about it. HANNITY: Let everybody testify. Everybody that he's known all throughout his career, and let the professor testify and let the judge testify. I think the American people. Thank you, Senator. GRAHAM: Thank you. HANNITY: When we come back, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, John Solomon. Important breaking news on the deep state, next. HANNITY: All right. Here now with reaction to tonight's explosive breaking news, the author of the number one "New York Times" bestseller "The Russian Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump," Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, Fox News investigative reporter and contributor, Sara Carter, "The Hill's" John Solomon. John, we'll start with you. You broke the story. Lisa Page, how revealing, especially now that we look at the media leak strategy and the timeline of all of this, what she sent to Congress? JOHN SOLOMON, THE HILL: What you're really end up seeing with these text messages and the rest of the body of evidence that has now come forward is that these FBI agents, the Justice Department has allowed themselves to become part of a political attack machine, instead of being neutral following the evidence, they imposed the presumption of guilt and the absence of evidence. And it's terrible corrupting of what's supposed to be a very neutral counterintelligence process. They knew when Mueller was being appointed there was no evidence yet and instead, the Justice Department embarked on a licking strategy to try to create the presumption that there was guilt and a reason to continue with this investigation. I think it's shameful. HANNITY: No evidence, Sara, for nine long months and, just like Comey, it's very similar, this is the upper echelon, they have a media leak strategy. The purpose was to, what, literally set up so that a special counsel will be put in place, so they maybe can get Trump? Is this the insurance policy? Because it's all the same players? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: It's all the same players, Sean, and it was also a pretext. I mean, think about this, they leak information to the media out of an unverified dossier and other information that had not been verified, and then they use that information to then expand their own investigation without ever saying anything to the courts. I think what we're going to find in these declassified documents, and I don't think it's going to take long for the president to get his hands on these and for Congress to get their hands on this. I think what we're going to find is extraordinary, exculpatory evidence that should have been handed over to the intelligence surveillance court. HANNITY: Like what? In other words, in the 302s we're going to find this? CARTER: That's right. I think we're not and not just in the 302s, Sean, but in all of the other evidence and documents, remember, not just the FISA application, we're going to see the truth there. We're going to find out what Bruce Ohr told the FBI and we're also going to get all the notes that were part of the gang of eight documents. These are all important and they all going to reveal that this exculpatory evidence that should have been turned over to the courts. And let me tell you this. According to the sources that I've spoken with that know what's in there would say that, once that goes public, you are going to see that the courts were lied to. That this was the biggest abuse of power in modern political history and the biggest abuse of power against a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance court. HANNITY: "The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump," that's the book that is number one on the New York Times and you wrote it. Is this it? JARRETT: This is it. Every day seems to bring new evidence that proves the thesis of my book, that this was an elicit scheme the FBI and the Department of Justice know there was no evidence of collusion. They violated the law when they launched their investigation in July of 2016, and now we find out today to the text message that when the special counsel was appointed, they didn't have any evidence of collusion. HANNITY: For nine months. JARRETT: You are supposed to specifically state-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And that's why they leaked in the lead up, they leak it purposely-- JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: -- to get the impression that there was all this and evidence-- JARRETT: -- to damage Trump and as a pretext to begin questioning people. They thought it would snowball and that this would undo the Trump presidency. So many crimes have been committed here, not only deceiving the FISA court judges by concealing evidence but then here we find out through these text messages that they are looking highly classified information. That is a violation of the law, several different statutes. HANNITY: What do you think, what do you think -- what are your sources saying, John, that we are going to see when this unredact -- when the unredaction take place the declassification obviously taking place now? JOHN SOLOMON, VICE PRESIDENT, THE HILL: I suspect that we are going to find out that the FBI is monitoring an intrusion on the campaign in the political process and the transition, and the early president was much more intrusive than has been acknowledged publicly. Maybe not wiretapping but other surveillance techniques. And I think we are going to be surprised by the amount, like Sara said, I think Sara has on the money. My sources are saying exactly the same thing. A lot of exculpatory information, a lot of derogatory information about the credibility of the witnesses ever using before the court that the court did not know about. And this is an honor system. Remember, there is no advocate for the accused-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That's a fraud on the court, isn't it, John? SOLOMON: It's a fraud on the court. HANNITY: And it's a fraud to spy on a campaign in an election and post- election. It seems like all the leaking before all the leaking after President Trump was elected, it was all designed to destroy the president. Sara, is that your belief, the American people will see clearly? CARTER: The American people will see it clearly. And, Sean, this was a fraud on the American citizen. On Carter Page. Imagine-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He's going to join us tonight. Yes. CARTER: Yes. Imagine if this happen to other American citizens? Now, we don't know how far the abuse has gone. With this -- is this just about Carter Page or are there going to be other cases that we don't know about where they went beyond and violated the law? I mean, this is up to 10 years for the king classified information, it's what people could serve in prison time if they are charged. HANNITY: Let me get and refer that to our lawyer. What is -- who are the people that you think, if there is justice, equal justice under the law and equal application of our laws, who gets indicted in this? JARRETT: Anyone who signed on the FISA application because they didn't have the evidence and they never verified it. And every renewal it's supposed to have a new evidence and they didn't have it. And the leaking of this information classified to the media. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: ten years. JARRETT: Yes, 10 years. So, I mean, this is, Sean, the arrogance of power becomes addictive and intoxicating. Trump was a threat to their power, so they sought to bring him down. HANNITY: Scary that this can happen in the United States of America. Sara, you used my words earlier and they came out of your mouth. The biggest abuse of power scandal in American history and it's unfolding. All three of you played a big part in it. You'll never get the Pulitzer that you deserve. But truth matters, thank you all. When we come back, President Trump's attorney, Jay Sekulow, he's be here with reaction on all today's breaking news. And Ed Henry, a live report tonight from our nation's capital. Busy news night. Glad you're with us. HANNITY: So one week from today, the Senate judiciary committee will have another open hearing with Judge Brett Kavanaugh and also Professor Ford has been invited to testify as well. Joining us live in Washington with more is our chief national correspondent, Ed Henry tonight. Ed, big news tonight. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Sean. Breaking tonight, Judge Kavanaugh as well as Professor Ford have both been invaded to testify in public next Monday by the Senate judiciary committee. What's interesting the White House is saying tonight Kavanaugh is going to testify tomorrow if they want because he is so eager to deny the allegation and clear his name. His accuser, Dr. Ford, has allege that at a party in Maryland back in the 80's he pinned her to the bed, groped her through her clothes and when she tried to scream he put his hand on her mouth, and then after his friend Mark judge jumped on the bed and all three tumbled and she ran away. But that friend has called the story nuts, he says he never Kavanaugh act that way and has no recollection of this ever happening. And after a phone call with Kavanaugh today Republican Orrin Hatch's office said, quote, "He told Senator Hatch that he was not a party like the one she describes and that Dr. Ford who acknowledged to the Washington Post over the weekend that she did not remember key details about the incident may be mistaking him for someone else." That's Kavanaugh's version as told to Republican Orrin Hatch. Now remember, Democrat Dianne Feinstein has known about an anonymous allegation along these lines since July and had not said anything until late last week which is something President Trump jumped on today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: He's an outstanding intellect, an outstanding judge respected by everybody, never had even a little blemish on his record. The FBI has I think gone through the process six times with him over the years where he went to higher and higher positions. Judge Kavanaugh spent quite a bit of time with Senator Feinstein and it wasn't even brought up at that meeting and she had this information. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: Now a key Republican swing vote on all of this, Susan Collins also said she's wondering why the original anonymous letter from Dr. Ford was not dealt with sooner. But she and other Republicans like Jeff Flake and Bob Corker say they want a thorough investigation of facts before they will move forward on this process, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Ed Henry in Washington. And here now with reaction is President Trump's attorney, Jay Sekulow. Full disclosure he has done work for me, legal work for me in the past. So I think Lindsey Graham actually has the right approach. And I think the president had the right approach. If there is going to be a slight delay, I want everybody to be certain. The American people have the right to understand. The person that Professor Ford describes in the room has denied it. Then we have law clerks, then we have 65 people that knew him at the time. Then we have other students in high school and in college and in law school and law clerks and people that won't work with him in the Bush administration and all the time he has been a judge, there's not one other person that only says glowing things about him in including his former girlfriends at the time. JAY SEKULOW, MEMBER, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LEGAL TEAM: Well, look, Sean, Judge Kavanaugh has stated that he will testify before the Senate. he said we would be willing to do it tomorrow. Dr. Ford has been offered the opportunity to appear as well. I think what Lindsey Graham said says it all, you evaluate the situation and, there will be a voting. And look, I mean, no one can question whether Judge Kavanaugh has the intellect to serve on the Supreme Court of the United States. And if you are looking at the judicial philosophy he has over 300 published opinions. So I think from that standpoint -- but you got to look at this. Look, in this day and a time, and I understand this. An allegation has been made, Judge Kavanaugh is going to respond and that's the appropriate way. The accuser is going to have her time as well and that should be an orderly and appropriate process. I think what the president has said is right, I think what Senator Graham has said is correct. HANNITY: But I think when you look at the history this is why I think Americans, I think, I believe in the presumption of innocence. I want everybody to testify including Professor Ford. But if you look at the history of Robert Bork and then Clarence Thomas, I think it gives people more reason to pause. And I don't think -- nobody was there. Nobody knows. What if it's only resolved that this woman makes this allegation, the person that was supposedly also in the room says no and the judge says no, there's nothing else in his career that marks a blemish on his character, and he is the perfect gentleman, that's the words that so many people used that even dated them. SEKULOW: Yes. HANNITY: What then happens? SEKULOW: That's why the Constitution, Sean, that's why the Constitution has this process. The president nominates and it's with the advice and consent of the senate that the nominee is confirmed or not confirmed to the position. So what Senator Graham said what Senator Grassley has stated is they are going through a process pursuant to the Constitution and that's the appropriate way to respond to this. HANNITY: Let me ask you about the declassification and redactions. SEKULOW: Yes. HANNITY: And someone said that might be a long process and others have said it could be done fairly expeditiously. Thoughts? SEKULOW: Well, look, the president issued an order and the president has that authority under article two and he exercised it. He has the authority and he exercises that authority. And now the question is, you are asking the length of time for the process where it will come out unredacted, that's intergovernmental. The government works on that. You know, I would assume it's going to move expeditiously. But I think what's most important here is the American people are going to have a look finally at what actually was the beginning. What was it that started this inquiry in the first place? And if John Solomon and Sara Carter are correct in their reporting, and the information is going to show some type of potential surveillance inside the Trump campaign, this would be an eye-opener. This would be shocking, this would create a situation where you have to look at the legitimacy of the beginning of the inquiry. I mean, we all focus on the fact that the inquiry, it looks like started with the Christopher Steele dossier. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But Lisa Page testifies as we now know. SEKULOW: Yes. HANNITY: That they had nothing nine months- (CROSSTALK) SEKULOW: She said after nine months nothing. But Sean, that's two years now. HANNITY: But we now know also that there was a media leak strategy in the lead up to the appointment of the special counsel. SEKULOW: Yes. Right. And that by the way, the media leak strategy in and of itself can be a violation of the law. So there is a host of problems from the top to bottom on this and we -- I've said that for a year and a half on this broadcast. But you do have to point out that this inquiry started well before the appointment of the office of the special counsel before Bob Mueller's appointment and Lisa Page testified under oath that there was no evidence of collusion and, let me take it a step further here, Sean. Peter Strzok and those messages back and forth said there was no there, there and that's why he was reluctant to go over initially to go over to the special counsel's office. HANNITY: And interesting Bob Woodward said he looked hard and he found nothing. SEKULOW: Yes, right. HANNITY: Senator Burroughs said they found nothing in the Senate committee. SEKULOW: Yes. HANNITY: None of that ever gets reported. And it has been a non-stop never ending nearly two years of this crap-- (CROSSTALK) SEKULOW: The thing speaks for itself, that's what we say in the law. The thing speaks for itself. The evidence is clear. HANNITY: All right. Jay Sekulow, thank you for being with us. When we come back, the man at the middle of all of this, Carter Page weighs in on the president classifying the FISA documents and sending them out unredacted. A lot of that has to do with him. Him and attorney David Schoen, next. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Here with more reaction tonight's breaking news, Civil rights and criminal defense attorney David Schoen, and former Trump campaign associate, Carter Page. Carter, apparently a lot of this has to do with you and how perhaps exculpatory evidence was withheld. But really, we know that FISA applications were all based, we're told by the Grassley-Graham memo and by the Nunes memo. The bulk of information came from Hillary's bought and paid for phony debunked Russian dossier. You are at the center of this because they were spying on you. By the way, why have you never been indicted if you were such a horrible person that needed a year's worth of surveillance? CARTER PAGE, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN FOREIGN POLICY ADVISER: Sean, not only have I never been indicted, I've never been asked any question, which was a credible question as to anything I had possibly done wrong. So, it's just so incredibly stupid to begin with, that where do you even begin to start unraveling this? So we are starting to see this come out a little bit, yes. HANNITY: What, and this gets to the nature of what you plan to do. I mean, I know Ray Donovan infamously or famously once said, where do I go to get my good name back? Where do you go to get your good name back and what are your plans legally? PAGE: Sea, you know, the biggest question to me is fixing the disaster that this created for a democratic processes in the United States. You know, I've done it in Washington for a couple of days, talking to a number of people about potential legal strategies to work on that. My biggest concern is all the damage that the stated to the U.S. government, and the mockery had made out of the Constitution. And you know, all of the wrongdoing that was done by various officials within the Department of Justice and the FBI-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But this is a great point. PAGE: -- and the DNC. Yes. HANNITY: How did this Hillary Clinton, David, bought and paid for unverified uncorroborated Russian dossier become the foundational materials or bulk of information to get a FISA warrant? How did they withhold that information to the judge? Does that mean they committed fraud on the judge and on the FISA court? Never mind that the evidence was overwhelming in the beginning, and they fix an investigation into Hillary Clinton and they tried to go after that guy right in the middle of our screen here? DAVID SCHOEN, CIVIL RIGHTS AND CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Absolutely. Any material omission or withholding of information from the FISA court violated that court's rule and the constitutional rights are the subject of it. I think now we're headed toward the first step in writing these wrongs to the American people. Declassification is key, and let's be very clear because it's shameful that we are hearing protest station for members of Congress about the declassification. Every American should demand full transparency and that is what the president is providing and this is his Spartacus moment, to use another reference. Listen, the president has full authority under article two, section two, but more than that. President Obama in 2009, 2010 signed executive order 13526 that again affirmed the president has full authority as the final arbiter of what's classified and what's declassified. More than that, the FISA court itself has rule 62 that puts that into effect and the FISA court presiding judge specifically wrote to two members of Congress earlier this year is saying the court has no objection to disclosure of these documents and it's for the executive branch to decide because the executive branch has an interest in that the court recognizes and maintain the integrity of ongoing law enforcement investigations and that is the court's words. HANNITY: I would like to hear from the judges in this case. Carter Page, considering it's about you I would assume you would want to hear from them? PAGE: I would love to. I actually sent a letter to the chief judge of the FISA court and, you know, I never got a response. What's even worse is that when the FBI declassified things, they sent it to the New York Times first which is in violation of the privacy act. You know, they are supposed to -- if the documents are about yourself, you know, they should be the individual that it's about which should see it before they publish the entire world. HANNITY: The New York Times. PAGE: Exactly. HANNITY: Last word, Mr. Schoen. SCHOEN: Listen, declassification is absolutely the right move now. The president is serving the American people in the role for which he was elected. When he was elected, the American people gave him this power to declassify and determine what should declassified. HANNITY: Yes. SCHOEN: He's operating in the interest of full transparency and that's what every American should demand. HANNITY: It's interesting that the only people freaking out tonight are people like shifty Schiff, Adam Schiff. The 400 -- Carter is listening, you know why? Because he is going to be proven a liar and that's my prediction tonight. Thank you all for being with us. PAGE: Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: Carter, we'll have you back when this is redacted and released. Unredacted and released. Colonel Oliver North and NRA with a new ad about people who kneel for the anthem, that's next. HANNITY: All right. Time for the video of the day. You'll going to love this. Colonel Oliver North and the NRA, they put out a new video over fellow Americans who decide to kneel during the national anthem. Take a look at what they put out. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OLIVER NORTH, FOX NEWS HOST: When you take a knee during our national anthem, you disrespect the men and women who lost their limbs so you could spend your Sunday's playing games. When you dishonor our flag, you turn your back on the families of heroes serving on the front lines, whose sacrifices make it possible for cameras to focus on your disgraceful protests. When we teach children that police are the enemy, you've turned your back on the very law enforcement that keeps your stadium safe. We fight for the First Amendment as much as the second, but while you use it disgracefully, we use it to tell the truth. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Powerful ad. We'll have more on that later in the week. That is all the time we have left this evening. We're always fair and balance. We're not the destroy-Trump media, we never will be. News you won't get anywhere else. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham standing by on our nation's capital. Laura? Load-Date: September 18, 2018 End of Document Accuser of Brett Kavanaugh Has Come Forward and Ready to Testify; Woman Friends of Kavanaugh Responds to the Sexual Allegations Being Thrown at Him; President Trump Blasts the Democrats for Holding Information on Brett Kavanaugh; Senate Announces Public Hearing to Investigate Sexual Assault Allegations against Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh; Interview with Juanita Broaddrick; President Trump to Authorize Release of Classified Documents Related to Russia Investigation; New Pro-Trump Ad to be Released Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 17, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7848 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Ed Henry Guests: Suzanne Matan, Julie Devol, Jen Mascott, Ken Starr, Chris Hahn, Kim Strassel, Juanita Broaddrick, Devin Nunes, Dave Bossie Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEW HOST: That is all the time we have left this evening. We are always fair and balanced. We are not the destroy the Trump media. We never will be. News you won't get anywhere else. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham standing by at the nation's capitol, Laura. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Sean, does it feel like its 1991 all over again? I was here during the confirmation hearing of Justice Thomas for whom I clerked and -- HANNITY: Justice Thomas is one of the nation's finest Supreme Court justices and I'll never forget his testimony, how powerful that was. It was a very powerful moment for him. INGRAHAM: Yes. He's a national treasure and Sean, a fantastic show tonight. A huge news of course. HANNITY: Have a good show. INGRAHAM: All right. Sean, thanks so much. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE on a very important night here in Washington. In moments, my thoughts on Brett Kavanaugh, a man I've known for nearly three decades and we'll hear from some other women who have known him even longer. Plus, why do some accusations matter, while others are summarily ignored. Bill Clinton accuser Juanita Broaddrick is here with some questions for Dianne Feinstein about her claims and how they were treated 20 years ago. And hear exclusively later in the hour House Intel Chair Devin Nunes with his first reaction to the president's decision late this afternoon to declassify documents related to the Russia investigation. But first, 1991, all over again. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. By now, most of you are familiar with the 11th hour charges against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. Christine Blasey Ford, Palo Alto research psychologist is claiming that when she was 15 and Kavanaugh was 17, he made unwanted advances to her at a boozy house party. She claims that he tried to force himself upon her. Kavanaugh released a statement today emphatically denying the charges for a second time, saying "This is a completely false allegation. I have never done anything like what the accuser describes -- to her or to anyone." But the 10 Democrats on the judiciary committee were unanimous in their calls to delay Kavanaugh's scheduled Thursday vote. And some weak-kneed Republicans, no shock there, like Flake and Corker, joined those calls. But there are holes in Ms. Ford's version of events. The 2012 notes from her psychotherapist mentioned four men involved in the assault on Ford. Now, the accuser says it was only two men. Nowhere does Kavanaugh's name appear in those notes. And both Kavanaugh and the only other witness deny that the event ever occurred. Ford claims that she decided to come forwards at this moment out of "civic responsibility." But the timing, suffice it to say, is curious. Senator Dianne Feinstein had a letter from Ford detailing these allegations back in July. But she chose not to share it with the FBI or to raise it in 32 hours of public hearings, and of course, one hour of a private meeting with Kavanaugh, so why? Well, this all has the whiff of a political smear masquerading as a sexual assault allegation, one that 36 years later, let's face it, cannot either be proven or disproven. It is impossible to prove a negative and questioning Ms. Ford and Brett Kavanaugh on this matter, it is unlikely to reveal anything new. But still this afternoon, judiciary committee chairman Chuck Grassley announced that he's calling a hearing a week from today, giving both Kavanaugh and Ms. Ford an opportunity to be heard. But think about this for a moment. To furnish Democrats with another big talk for their divisive circus may actually be a mistake for Republicans. Democrats have been salivating for another Clarence Thomas-Anita Hill like spectacle to use as leverage against Republicans in the fall and maybe get some more female voters while they're at it. Here is minority leader Chuck Schumer. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: I think the allegations of Professor Ford are extremely credible. She took a lie detector test. She talked to this to her therapist though, having family counseling in part because of what happened to her five years ago and told all the details. And third, to come out and say something like this puts you and your family through incredible scrutiny, people throw brick bats at you and everything else. She didn't do it on a whim. I don't think she did it for political reasons so she has a great deal of credibility. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: No one knows anything about this yet apparently. She hasn't testified, but Chuck Schumer is supremely confident. But the very idea that Schumer or anyone else who is going to be able to get to the bottom of a 36-year-old allegation is ludicrous. And Chuck, as you know, lie detectors aren't admissible in court for a reason. Lindsey Graham made a point by the way earlier today. He said, "It is a little odd that she even decided to take a lie detector test, but she wanted to remain anonymous." Well the fact is, there is no way to ensure that Brett Kavanaugh will receive due process here because allegations such as this, they should have been examined in any of the six FBI background checks that Kavanaugh underwent. But instead, this was dropped less than a week before his committee vote. And as such, a lot of reasonable people can conclude that this is all part of a political hit job, a well orchestrated, elinskiite maneuver timed to cause maximum damage to Kavanaugh, to President Trump and the midterms for the Republicans. Put maximum political pressure on the Republicans especially when you have people like Corker and Flake. They are not running for re-election, what are they supposed to do? Anita Hill this weekend dropped a statement designed to insulate the accuser from any criticism, frankly, any meaningful questioning. And box in any male Republican questioning Ford in an open forum. She wrote the following, "Given the seriousness of these allegations, the government needs to find a fair and neutral way for complaints to be investigated. I've seen first hand what happens when such a process is weaponized against an accuser and no one should have to endure that again." Christine Ford's attorney, Debra Katz, echoed Anita Hill's thoughts and claims that her client is willing to appear before the judiciary committee. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DEBRA KATZ, ATTORNEY FOR CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD: She's willing to cooperate. What she is not willing to do is to be part of this blood letting that happens in Washington. We only need to look at the Anita Hill hearings to know what that's going to look like and that is not a fair way to get at the truth. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Think about this, fair? What is a fair way? So, anyone has the freedom, a male or a female, has freedom to drop damaging allegations just days before a confirmation vote, when someone has been in public service for years and years and years, undergoing six background checks. And then outside the normal procedures, they can drop a letter anonymously, have it leak out a few weeks later and they don't get any criticism? You can't examine motives. You can't examine maybe holes in the allegations. You can't examine any political affiliations. This is insanity. This does a disservice to the Senate, it does a disservice to the process and it does a disservice to Brett Kavanaugh, given everything he's given to this country in public service. And Republicans who buckle to this type of smear and the type of frankly intimidation game, they don't deserve to be in the Senate for another minute. Any Senator who would allow this to happen to a nominee of Kavanaugh's experience, and integrity, should look at his or her own. I've had the great privilege of knowing Kavanaugh for 25 years. I've known him socially and in professional circles. And I've known a lot of people in this town, both parties, but few, I can probably count them on two hands, with his character, his intellect and his professionalism. I don't say this because he is someone I support for the court, I say this because I know him. And if this can happen to him, I tremble for this country and this process and for any man or woman, who find themselves up for a big job, who didn't spend his or her teenage years in a convent or a monastery. An that is "The Angle." Joining us now with reaction are Suzanne Matan and Julie Devol both long time friends of Judge Kavanaugh. They also signed the letter of support vouching for Kavanaugh's character last week after the accusation against him first surfaced. We're also joined by Jen Mascott, a former law clerk for the judge and also, we share having clerked for Justice Thomas. Great to see you. Everyone, thanks for being here tonight, I know all of you are busy. You have a lot of stuff to do. Suzanne, let's start with you. Tell us how you knew -- we all know him as Brett, but tell us how you knew him. SUZANNE MATAN, SUPPORTING BRETT KAVANAUGH: I met Brett sophomore year in high school, when I attended a private school. We became fast friends from the beginning. We remained friends throughout high school. We were occasional pen pals throughout college. We have daughters that were born a day apart and went on to be on the same lacrosse team, spent many hours on the sidelines talking about old times and getting to know his wife Ashley. INGRAHAM: And when you heard this allegation last week, you all ran around the same circles, anything, when you look back knowing him in high school, anything just sticking (inaudible) this could have been Brett or immediately discounted? MATAN: I immediately discounted it. He's bright. He's honest. He's kind. And he's respectable and so the allegation is something that is completely opposite of the Brett that I knew then and the Brett that I know now. INGRAHAM: And Julie, you guys are old friends. I know both of you from Washington circles so, I've known him not as long as you have, but today on "Politico" or maybe it was on MSNBC, they started saying, well, the women who had signed the letter, they only could get two of them to still say they were supporting Kavanaugh. Is that accurate? You know a lot of these young -- you are young women -- young women who signed this letter, you know them. Is that true? JULIE DEVOL, SUPPORTING BRETT KAVANAUGH: Not at all. Sixty-five o us all are on the same page. Everyone of us is in agreement, we just -- there is some people calling everybody and making them nervous and so they've chosen not to come on to TV shows or to use their name, but every one of us still stands by what we said in the letter. INGRAHAM: So that was complete disinformation, you know, people call it fake news. And why did you guys decide to come here tonight. You are both really busy, mothers, professionally, but you decided you weren't going to sit by on the sidelines, why? DEVOL: No, I felt strongly that he's got great morals, great character and I've known him since 1980. This is not his personality. This is not anything that he would ever do. I mea, we used to talk on the phone every night during the weekday, he helped me with my homework. I mean, I used the right person to help me with my homework. INGRAHAM: You picked the right one. I always had friends -- I always had my friends were always the smarter ones, too. I want to play -- this a moment on MSNBC today. Jen, you worked as a law clerk for him both on the D.C. Circuit where he has had an exemplary career. And then you clerked for Justice Thomas, so you know, this harkens back on my angle to what happened to him, which was so blatantly unfair. This is a moment on MSNBC today with this woman, Symone Sanders -- CNN, excuse me. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAKE TAPPER, CNN HOST: In a lot of this MeToo cases, Harvey Weinstein, who have fallen because of their disgusting past behavior. And almost all of them, it's a pattern. You see more than one. What if nobody else comes forward, does that change things for you at all? SYMONE SANDERS, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: No, I still think that Dr. Ford, she has credibly come forward in my opinion. I hope if there is any other women out there they do come forward. These women are probably some of the most powerful people on the planet right now. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Jen, I mean, your reaction to that? Apparently there is no pattern ever needs to be established, it could just be one person saying one thing, 36 years ago. JEN MASCOTT, FORMER LAW CLERK FOR KAVANAUGH: See Laura, I clerked for Judge Kavanaugh his first year on the D.C. Circuit so I have known him and his family for 12 years. And I have to tell you, utmost integrity, character, always -- he's been a career-long mentor to me. You saw throughout the confirmation process, he said women of all walks of life, from all sides of ideological spectrum, come forward and attest to his character, his integrity. He has mentored scores of women as students and law clerks. INGRAHAM: But they are actually saying that he did that -- there was someone last week, forgive me for not remembering who it was, someone on one of the major shows was saying, oh, now we know why he touted the fact that he coached a girl's basketball game and because he hired all these women clerks, because he thought that an allegation from high school was going to dog him. I kid you not, that is what they said. MASCOTT: So Judge Kavanaugh has got an impeccable record and, you know, he's hired women law clerks over the entire 12 years. INGRAHAM: But there was pretext according to some of these people. MASCOTT: Well, not a lifetime pretext. I mean, as you know, we've seen people from all walks of life. He has unimpeachable record. He has had a clear record, you know, people from back in his school days attest to his character. I've seen him in every case that he's considered during my time clerking for him and years he's mentored me since then. I deeply admire him and respect him and he would be excellent Supreme Court justice. INGRAHAM: How hard do you want him to fight to get this seat? There is going to be a fight. MASCOTT: So, he has categorically denied the allegations and I think it is really important for people to listen to him and for him to stand strong in the truth that he knows and defend his character, yes. INGRAHAM: Suzanne, when I think about -- I have two sons, age 8 and 10, OK. I think about even young women who are up for a big job or a big promotion and none of us knows what happened. I mean, you guys went to, how many parties do you guys go to? I mean, I went to a lot of parties in high school. A lot of parties, right? I don't remember, you know, -- yes I was at someone's house, but the idea that something that happens in high school, 36 years later, can derail a job when you have no pattern. Listen what Jen just said. I've talked to, I don't know, 13 or 14 just recently of his former clerks and when you know - - when someone is a creep, you know it. We all knew people who were creepy. I mean, we all met people. Did he ever have any -- a girlfriend or who said, ugh, not a good guy? I mean, anyone like that? Because we know people who are creepy and I've never heard anything like that about him, ever. MATAN: No. People talk about the speed at which we got the women together for this letter, it is because we were tight-knit community. We talk often. And when we wanted to rally for his character, we did. And if there had been even like the slightest, like you said, inkling of something to the contrary, we would -- INGRAHAM: Someone would have heard it. And Julie, any thoughts from any of your friends or any people that you know who know the accuser, anything about motivation on this? Anything? DEVOL: I can't talk about it. INGRAHAM: No. She kind of moved -- she moved out of town and, you know, people don't seem to know anything. It's just -- it's an oddest, oddest thing, but you guys want him to fight on, correct? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Absolutely. And we area 100 percent behind him. INGRAHAM: OK. Well guys, thank you so much for your insight into his character and the person he is. An again, we thank you and I know our viewers thank you for coming out. And don't let anyone intimidate you from having your truth because I think that is what they want to do. Ladies, thank you so much. And my next guest says how the Senate handles this particular charge is profoundly important to the dignity of the institution itself. We're happy to welcome back to the show Judge Ken Starr, author of the new book, "Contempt: A Memoir of the Clinton Investigation." Judge, you were on the radio with me this morning and now tonight on the show. And things have changed a lot from 9:30 this morning when you and I talked about this. The Senate has now scheduled another hearing for a week from today, this morning you did not think that was a great idea to delay his confirmation hearing. Anything change in the intervening hours? KEN STARR, FORMER SOLICIOR GENERAL: No, I think the thing that is changing is there is this huge outpouring and thank you for having these friends of Brett Kavanaugh on, who have known him for even longer, Laura, than you and I have known him. I've known him since 1994. I likewise can attest that in my interactions with him over the years, including as his supervisor, not once did I see any evidence of this kind of character. Moreover, never was it reported in fact to the contrary. The outpouring that we are seeing now and I know there is a lot of noise, sort of on the other side, but that is politically inspired noise. The people who know Brett Kavanaugh are saying to a person, he is a person of complete integrity and strong character and you're so right in your comment that the character will come out, someone cannot year after year at Yale College, at the Yale Law School and various courtships and then three decades of professional life here in Washington, D.C., be a neighbor and yet be this kind of person who now is being described as a predator. This is just absolutely appalling. INGRAHAM: No, it's reprehensible. STARR: I wish the senate had stood firm. I understand due process but the process at the Senate and this is what I said, that the process broke down terribly when Dianne Feinstein allowed then this process to remain what it is. I don't need to rehearse the facts for this to be enshrouded in secrecy and then dropped like neutron bomb. INGRAHAM: Yes. But Judge, this was, I mean, I'm going to say you're very judicious. You are still (inaudible) -- STARR: Thank you. INGRAHAM: I'm going to say it the way it is because I'm more cynical than you are because I've been here for too long. I got to move somewhere else. This is all orchestrated. The idea that this is like some, oh, it just came out and I took lie detector in August, why did you take a lie detector in August? Why would you do that if you wanted to be anonymous? It makes no sense. But I got to play something because I'm dying to get your opinion it. Tubin (ph) and Turley, two legal minds who are out there today, differing views on whether you could ever even get to the bottom of this factual situation 36 years ago. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is unlikely that we will be able to conclusively show that someone is lying and someone telling the truth. It will be left to a credibility judgment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is other evidence out there in the world that we need to hear. Why was she in a bathing suit? Was this a house with a pool? I mean, these are all facts that can be determined -- (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That narrows it down, the house with a pool and Chevy Chase. OK Judge, not many houses there. Which side do you come down on that? Factual determination impossible, so it is just the theater and the spectacle of it, which will build all week long. STARR: Exactly. It's going to be drama and I think this again is very unfortunate for the country, for our culture and our values. It's obviously unfair to the Senate itself. This is a self-inflicted wound, as I see it, by the Senate, just counting and seeing this 11th hour process that Diane Feinstein is totally responsible for. I'm not going to attack the person who is making these accusations, but I am going to say the Senate should be acting much more judiciously than it is. And it is. It is going to be I'm afraid a free-for-all circus and that is unfortunate, it is unfair to Brett Kavanaugh's family. It is also unfair to the Supreme Court of the United States because when he's confirmed, then he nonetheless carries this memory with him. INGRAHAM: Ye. This is about Roe versus Wade. I'm sorry, it's about Roe versus Wade, that's what it's all about in the end. All right Judge, thank you so much. And still ahead, why do some accusations matter while others are ignored. Bill Clinton accuser Juanita Broadderick is here and she has some questions for Senator Feinstein. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: He's an outstanding intellect, an outstanding judge, respected by everybody, never had even a little blemish on his record. The FBI has, I think, gone through a process six times with him over the years. At the same time we want to go through a process. We want to make sure everything is perfect, everything is just right. I wish the Democrats could have done this a lot sooner because they had this information for many months and they shouldn't have waited until literally the last days. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Should it be delayed? TRUMP: I don't know. It depends on the process, if it takes a little delay, it will take a little delay. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And offer to withdraw? TRUMP: Next question, what a ridiculous question. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think his confirmation is on track? TRUMP: I think he's on track, yes. I mean, I think he is very much on track. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And that was President Trump earlier today commenting on the Kavanaugh accusations of course, and signaling that he is willing to give Democrats time but expects a nomination to proceed. Joining us now on the phone is Kim Strassel, columnist at "Wall Street Journal" and Chris Hahn is a radio host and former aide to Chuck Schumer. Chris, I want to go to you first on this because there is something just wild about an allegation that can be raised less than a week before a confirmation vote that has been in the possession of Dianne Feinstein since July, I guess early July. She held on to it. The accuser for some reason took a lie detector test. Lindsey Graham raised a question about that earlier today, just curious. And then right before the vote, they dropped this thing, I was 15, he was 17. Do you have any reservations as a man -- I don't know if you have sons or not, but of this happening, stuff that happens in high school right before a big promotion or a big job? CHRIS HAHN, RADIO HOST: You know, I have daughters. Look, I don't like unfounded reservations, but -- unfounded accusations, but look, we're in a situation where a person is being elevated to highest court in the land. He will never seek election. He will never be confirmed by the voters and he will never have to stand before Congress again. The highest level of scrutiny needs to be applied in this situation and Kavanaugh is receiving that scrutiny and it is fought with peril. The president's comments were as disciplined as I've ever heard the president be, because the White House knows that this confirmation is in jeopardy and I think that Monday's hearing is a huge risk for both Kavanaugh and the White House and Senate Republicans. If they try to do what they did to Anita Hill, they will lose more seats than they could possibly think of in November. So there is a good chance -- INGRAHAM: So, do you think someone -- let me just get this straight. This whole Anita Hill thing is ridiculous. Well, I clerked for Justice Thomas, full disclosure, I've known him for 35 years, OK. I've know him for longer than I've known Kavanaugh. So you are saying someone should be able to make an allegation, where no pattern of such behavior is established, someone has been in public life for decades and that person should be able to lob these allegations without questions about motivation, political ties, credibility or other contemporaneous comments to others when the act occurred? None of that can be pursued because that is neat position to be in. HAHN: No, no. I do think all of that should be pursued. I think the FBI should be investigating this claim. INGRAHAM: OK. HAHN: And they should find out what is truth and what is not truth. And maybe Monday is too quick to have a hearing for the FBI to do that. I think everything you just said should be looked into because I don't believe you should be able to just baselessly throw a political accusation out there -- INGRAHAM: But when it happens to a family member -- HAHN: -- but if there is proof to the foundation, this man is going to sit on the Supreme Court probably for 30 years. INGRAHAM: Well, that gets to the rub of it, and Kim, I know you are on the phone, but I want you to listen to something. This was Angela Rye, a Democratic commentator today on CNN, which I think speaks to some of the perhaps political implication of all of this and what might be really going on here. Let's listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANGELA RYE, CNN COMMENTATOR: We need to remember what will be before Brett Kavanaugh if he were nominated to the Supreme Court, women's choice, equal pay, workers rights. And if he has a pattern and practice of demonstrating that he cannot ever side with women or that women are beneath him, I think that this is another piece of this. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Kim, there is a pattern and practice of Judge Kavanaugh doing the exact opposite, elevating women, more than half of his law clerks have been women. Of course his work at the White House. His work as a young lawyer. I've known him socially and professionally for more than two decades, almost three, and just an exemplary person and among women. Your reaction to that? KIM STRASSEL, COLUMNIST, WALL STREET JOURNAL: Yes, correct. This is the problem with the argument that oh, you should go out and find the truth. As you have been saying on the show, there is no way to verify this in part, because the accuser herself can't recollect key details. And I think what is really important here is we can have this hearing, you could have the FBI look into it, I think that is a terrible idea. But it is still going to be he said/she said in the end and what defines part of this is that what she's doing is very different from other allegations that has happened as part of this MeToo thing and people need to bear that in mind. You know, for starters, she can't provide details of even the year of when it happened, which denies Judge Kavanaugh the ability to perhaps prove he was someone else. She told nobody about it contemporaneously and so there is no one to actually in fact verify this. And there is just lot of that that makes all of this a very, very difficult accusation to just hold on and face and say, well, we obviously have to pay more attention to it than a lifetime of service and everything else that he has demonstrated. That's one other thing. People we know, by the way -- no, people that accused of this and have admitted to some of this, Harvey Weinstein, they have a pattern of such behavior. You don't do something like this one time in your life and there is nothing to suggest that this judge (inaudible). HAHN: And I agree. You look for patterns in things like this, and so far we haven't seen anything like that from Judge Kavanaugh. But this is not a court of law. This is a court of public opinion, and it's really a court of opinion about two or three senators on the right who may defect in this nomination and have been looking for a reason to defect, and this might just be that reason. So there needs to be full vetting of what happened, and there's going to be. And since they decided to have a hearing, they should really investigate what happened and may even delay this hearing until they figure that out. INGRAHAM: Well, the Democrats want to delay it and delay it and delay it because the more they think they can drag it out, the more political traction they think they get with this because it becomes a battering ram in the midterm elections. The idea that this was -- everybody is acting benevolently and all the Democrats, they just want to get to the truth. If they wanted to get to the truth, the most senior member of that communications for the Democrats, Dianne Feinstein, a senior woman of the committee, would have pursued this aggressively, and Brett Kavanaugh could have testified in those three days of raucous hearing about that and his views on substantive due process. But they didn't do that? Why did she not do that? Does that bother you, Chris, because it bothers the hell out of me? HAHN: It does trouble me that this wasn't pursued immediately, I'll admit to that. but I think perhaps that is why she took the lie detector test. Perhaps she was not believed fully by Senator Feinstein and her staff when this came forward and they needed that proof from the lie detector to move it forward. And that just happened in August, which is not too long ago. So here we are, we're at this point, there's going to be a hearing. And frankly it's dangerous for Republicans to even have this hearing because very possible -- INGRAHAM: So its damned if they do -- you think they should pull the nomination? You are basically saying you have to pull the nomination. It is ridiculous. HAHN: If I was advising -- if I was advising the president, I would try to get to the truth of this from the nominee. If I wasn't fully satisfied, I would pull the nomination. STRASSEL: I disagree, this is not dangerous for Republicans. I wish they were not holding this hearing, because, by the way, this allegation is too old, too unsubstantiated, and too procedurally flawed -- INGRAHAM: I guess everybody in high school, in high school, what did you do? I'm sorry, but at 17 years old, you are not accused of a crime. There was no contemporaneous reporting of this, apparently. Maybe someone else will come out of the woodwork. I don't know. But my goodness, I find this to be just insane, and I don't know why anyone, frankly, lives in Washington after this. Guys, thank you so much. Straight ahead, Juanita Broaddrick, who of course accused Bill Clinton of raping her, is calling Democrats' hypocrisy over the Brett Kavanaugh allegations. She joins us to sound off next. INGRAHAM: Christine Blasey Ford has made a serious allegation against Brett Kavanaugh, and as we said earlier, the accusation should be investigated. Democrats, though, are happy to oblige if they don't drown in their own hypocrisy first. FOX News chief national correspondent Ed Henry joins us to explain. Ed? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Laura, great to see you. Dr. Ford as well as Judge Kavanaugh have been invited to testify in public next Monday by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The White House saying Kavanaugh will testify tomorrow if they want because he's so eager to clear his name. Remember, Democrat Dianne Feinstein, as you just mentioned, has known about an anonymous allegation along these lines since July, had not said anything until late last week, something President Trump noted today in comments at the White House, telling reporters that the senator should have had the courage to confront Kavanaugh face-to-face. Philip Wegmann writing today in "The Washington Examiner" that Feinstein as well as leading Democrats, Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, and Patty Murray were all in Congress when charges of rape were leveled against then president Bill Clinton. Wegmann writing, quote, "Juanita Broaddrick accused then president Bill Clinton of raping her, Clinton was not a teenager at the time, in his hotel during his first gubernatorial race in Arkansas in 1978. The Senate was in middle of an impeachment trial in 1999. Not one of those Democrats called for an investigation into the Broaddrick accusations." So when Durbin tweeted this over the weekend, "If the Me Too movement has taught us anything, it's that we must respect and listen to the survivors of sexual assault regardless of the age of those involved or when the alleged attack took place." Broaddrick was not buying it, responding on Twitter, quote, "Well, Dick, do I have a story for you. Once upon a time Bill Clinton raped me. You voted not guilty on both counts in Clinton's impeachment. You didn't give a damn back then. You, Dickie Durbin, are a complete fraud." Here is what Broaddrick has said previously about a confrontation she had with Hillary Clinton. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUANITA BROADDRICK, ACCUSED BILL CLINTON OF RAPE: She came over to me, took a hold of me, and said I've heard so much about you, and I've been dying to meet you, or been wanting to meet you. I can't, just paraphrasing now. And she said, I just want you to know how much that Bill and I appreciate what you do for him. And she held on to my hand and she said, do you understand, everything that you do. I mean, cold chills went up my spine. That's the first time I became afraid of that woman. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: Democrats, the shoe may be on the other foot now for Kavanaugh. Remember, during the Clinton administration, he was working on independent counsel Ken Starr's team and was pushing for as much transparency as possible about Bill Clinton's personal life, though it's important to note that rather than running from this accusation now, Kavanaugh has gone on the record to deny it and said he's willing to testify as soon as possible, Laura. INGRAHAM: All right, thanks so much, Ed. And as Ed highlighted, Democrats saying a different tune when multiple allegations of misconduct were raised about Bill Clinton. Joining us with more is Juanita Broaddrick, who famously accused the former president of raping her. Juanita, I know when you watched this unfold today with the sanctimonious comments from everyone from Chuck Schumer, of course to Dick Durbin, Dianne Feinstein, what ran through your mind? JUANITA BROADDRICK, ACCUSED BILL CLINTON OF RAPE: Oh, it makes me go back to 1999, when Dianne Feinstein, along with every other Democrat, refused to read my deposition to the independent counsel. They would have nothing to do with it. That shows you the difference in the double standard that existed back then and still does today. I think it's -- I think this is astonishing that they can do this to Mr. Kavanaugh. INGRAHAM: Well, if your allegations should have been taken more seriously, why shouldn't this woman's allegations be taken seriously, as well? I mean, the process notwithstanding, should her word not be respect? Just because yours wasn't respected years ago, why not respect her word and at least give her a chance to be heard? BROADDRICK: Oh, I think she should be heard, but I still have so many reservations about her comments. I can't imagine a young girl going through what Ms. Ford said she went through and not tell anyone. You know, what I went through was horrific, and of course the lady that found me was the first one that I told. But I told four other people. That's just something I can't imagine that you can keep to yourself and not share with one of your closest friends. INGRAHAM: A lot of people have been victims of sexual abuse, or serious harassment, say every story is different. There were a number of women who called in to my radio show today, Juanita, who had actually been victims of rape and other sexual assaults. This is montage of what some of them said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KIRSTY IN FLORIDA: When I was 19, I was sexually abused. I know I've never forgotten the situation, and I cannot believe that this woman suddenly remembered now. SHERRY IN KANSAS: I was raped 40 years ago, and I'm absolutely furious. And I know that this is a last-minute ploy again, by the left. CINDY IN VIRGINIA: Having background myself of being a rape victim, you do not go about this the way this is coming out. This is for attention. And that does a horrible service to people that have actually had everything taken from them. I used to be Democrat. I will never vote Democratic again. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Juanita, quick response. BROADDRICK: Oh, yes, it's -- I still just can't imagine it. People say, why didn't you go to the police, Juanita? Why didn't you do something? Bill Clinton was the police. I had no one to go to. It's like when Schneiderman's victims came forward and said, when he was attorney general of New York, what do you do when your sexual abuser is the highest law enforcement officer in your state? What do you do? INGRAHAM: Well, something that happens in high school is very, very difficult to get to the bottom of 36 years later, and obviously she's not accusing Brett Kavanaugh of raping her, but she said -- apparently she said she was concerned that might happen if someone wasn't in the room. But again, he said/she said is very difficult, no pattern of such behavior. Juanita Broaddrick, thank you for joining us tonight. We really appreciate it. And President Trump is ordering the declassification of key documents from the Russia probe. Will it turn the whole investigation on its head? House Intel Chairman Devin Nunes joins us with his exclusive reaction next. INGRAHAM: President Trump taking a bold step in the Russia investigation, ordering the declassification of the Carter Page FISA warrant and other critical documents in the probe. Joining us now exclusively with more is Republican Congressman Devin Nunes, chairman of the House Intel Committee, who says the Democrats should be frightened about these documents declassification release. Congressman Nunes, couple things viewers need to understand tonight. The documents are going to be released are regarding the Carter Page 2017 FISA application and the Bruce Ohr, Justice Department official Bruce Ohr written reports about the FISA application, correct? REP. DEVIN NUNES, (R) HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: Yes, so it will be the 20 pages of the last FISA that was approved on Carter Page, which will have basically everything that was in it from number one, two, three, and four, of what we think the American people need to understand that this is actually the insurance policy that was talked about in the Strzok-Page check. So a lot of people think the insurance policy was getting the FISA warrant on Carter Page. We actually believe it was more explicit than that. We believe it was actually the insurance policy was specifically what they did that still is redacted that the president has said he is going to declassify, has ordered declassified. There are about a dozen Bruce Ohr 302s. Those are significant not just because of the Carter Page FISA but also because it shows the interaction between Christopher Steele, Fusion GPS, and many other rotten apples within the FBI that were up to no good. Finally, there is exculpatory information that the president has ordered declassified that needs to happen. And then additionally, I think everybody knows there are text messages between the top leaders at the FBI at the time that the president ordered declassified. This is going to be a great day for the American people. INGRAHAM: OK, so are you concerned that there will be a great lag in time, congressman, with the DNI, director of national intelligence has to review this first, correct? And then they will be released, no question about it? NUNES: Well, no, the president of the United States was clear in a statement he put out today. So 20 pages with no redactions. So that is simply going to Department of Justice, making 20 copies, and sending it out to the press. It's very, very simple. The only thing that could take a little bit of time would be the interviews that are in conjunction with the FISA, Carter Page FISA. That could be a little problematic. But I would think if the leader of the free world, the president of the United States, who has had to deal with this Russia nonsense for this long, if he orders it done, this shouldn't take more than a few days. But we're ready for it to take more than a few days because we're used to it. INGRAHAM: Adam Schiff today, of course, the ranking member of House Intel, said "President Trump in a clear abuse of power has decided to intervene in a pending law enforcement investigation by ordering selective release of materials he believes are helpful to his defense team, and he will advance a false narrative," already attempting to set in stone what the documents say, congressman. To me, it looks very defensive on the part of Adam Schiff. Why so defensive? OK, it was the president's decision, and wouldn't the American people like to see this after all this time? NUNES: Well, the mainstream media is also buying the Kool-Aid that this is going to endanger national security. I don't know how many times they're going to run that play call, but it's laughable that they are saying this is going to somehow endanger national security. You've heard me say this. This is really full transparency for the American people. This will be all the information really that I think the American people will need to see because for two years we've been force feeding this Russia Kool-Aid to the American people, so much so that you have the media involved in it, the mainstream media. The poor American people, I feel bad for some of these people who are part of this resistance movement who actually believe that the president is under control by the Russians and Republican in Congress are controlled by Russians. This is crazy talk, Laura. INGRAHAM: Didn't Lisa Page, in one of the text messages, though, didn't she basically say they had no indication of Russian collusion? In 2016, they had to basically find something, or they tried to find something. That's why they needed the FISA. NUNES: This was always an investigation in search of a crime. I supported Mueller when he was first appointed largely because I thought, great, we have a good guy that was there before. He'll come in quickly, see that there's no evidence of collusion, except maybe there might be collusion between the Democrats and the Russians, which there is, which the special counsel has done nothing about, nobody has investigated it. And now this thing has just gone on so long that it is scary to see the mainstream media, many Americans who have brought into this Russia Kool-Aid. It's really, really scary. INGRAHAM: They've abdicated the whole role of calling balls and strikes at this point. Congressman, thank you so much for joining us tonight, we really appreciate it with an exclusive take on this declassification. This is what everybody has been asking for, and we await these documents. And with the midterms just 50 days away, a new Republican ad campaign hopes to make a huge impression with voters. We have an exclusive preview. No one has seen this. You'll be the first to see it. And Joe Biden is at it again. Isn't he on Amtrak somewhere. We'll show all of it to you next. INGRAHAM: It's 50 days to go until the November midterms, and one of the most influential players in Republican politics is debuting a bold new ad campaign to win over voters. Joining us with an exclusive preview is Citizens United president and former Trump deputy campaign manager Dave Bossie. All right, Bossie, this is the big reveal. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: I'm excited about this, because nobody has seen this. I've seen it because you sent it to me. But it's not aired. DAVE BOSSIE, PRESIDENT CITIZENS UNITED: That's right. It goes up tomorrow morning. INGRAHAM: Tomorrow morning. BOSSIE: FOX News Channel and FOX Business nationally next week. And we're excited about because it talks about this president's accomplishments, and that's what the American people need to hear about. INGRAHAM: Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a new day in America. Everywhere you look, things are improving. Our president promised and he's keeping his word. Thanks to President Donald Trump, more people are going to work today, and millions of jobs have been created. Tax relief means more money in paychecks, retirement funds in the stock market unleashed and roaring back. The mainstream media, they won't admit it, but the leadership of President Donald Trump is making America's economy great again. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Corey Lewandowski did a great job with that voice over. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Who knew he was so talented. I didn't even hear the New Hampshire accent. That was good. That was good. Nice job. BOSSIE: Thank you very much. Look, 3.9 percent unemployment, 4.2 percent GDP. The president has delivered on jobs, jobs, jobs. He's bringing back manufacturing, something that Barack Obama said could never happen. This president has done exactly what he promised during the campaign, and all we're saying is, look, here is the difference, and that is why November matters. INGRAHAM: People have got to turn out. Look at what they're trying to do to Brett Kavanaugh, 11th hour accusation. It's pathetic. He's going to get confirmed. BOSSIE: Of course he will. He is a good man, and this smear campaign is really despicable. And they are deranged. This is Trump derangement syndrome targeted at Brett Kavanaugh. INGRAHAM: The Republicans always get weak-kneed. They come in and fight with a knife. BOSSIE: But you know what, this president has his back. This president is strong, and he's had plenty of accusations against him. INGRAHAM: He handled it very well, I thought, President Trump, and he even got kudos from some of our friends at the other cable networks, which made me a little nervous. (LAUGHTER) BOSSIE: But Bossie, you're coming on radio tomorrow. We're going to talk more about this. But cool ad. Did you design some of this, did you write the ad? BOSSIE: You know what, one of our best guys in America wrote this ad. INGRAHAM: Save it for the radio. We've got more tomorrow with Bossie. Joe Biden next delivering more comments about the deplorables. Don't go away, last bite. INGRAHAM: It's time for the last bit. When you can't win them over, degrade them. That's been the Democrats guiding motto against Trump supporters. And if you listen to new remarks from Joe Biden over the weekend, the left has no plans to abandon it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: These forces of intolerance remain determined to undermine and roll back the progress you all have made, and this time they, not you, have an ally in the White House. This time they have an ally. They're a small percentage of the American people, virulent people, some of them the dregs of society. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The dregs of society? Those are the consultants in Washington and pollsters. Oh, my God, have Democrats not learned anything from Hillary Clinton, the deplorables, the faceplant that she did? It killed her campaign. Please, Joe, please run in 2020. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team have all the latest. There's so much news. Load-Date: September 18, 2018 End of Document Latest Updates on Tropical Storm Florence; Breaking Strzok-Page Developments; Manafort Pleads Guilty, Agrees to Cooperate in Deal with Mueller Team; President Trump's Attorney Rudy Giuliani Says that He Feel Ashamed that the Department He Was Very Proud Before Was Now Involved in a Political Controversies that is Dragging Others Reputation in the Bureau; Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein Trying to Ditch Judge Brett Kavanaugh's Confirmation Hearing by Bringing Up a Very Disgusting Letter about the Judge's High School Life; Democrats and the Liberals are Desperately Using the Calamity Just to Stick Anything to the Trump Administration and Drag Down the President Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 14, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8165 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Steve Harrigan, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Leland Vittert, Rick Reichmuth, Matt Schlapp, Trace Gallagher, Sebastian Gorka Guests: Rudy Giuliani, Pam Bondi, Larry Elder Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Thanks, Tucker, great show. Welcome to HANNITY. This is a FOX News alert. Florence continues to pound the Carolinas as we speak. Over 600,000 are now without power. Coastal areas have been devastated by flooding and the rain is not stopping any time soon. And coming up, we're going to bring you live reports from the ground. But, first, we have a lot of breaking news today in the media as most of it wrong and they're not covering the important stuff. Paul Manafort did agree to cooperate with the office of special counsel. But, despite what you are hearing from the destroy Trump left wing press, the plea deal, it doesn't have to do with the president at all, nothing to do with the 2016 campaign at all, nothing to do with Russian collusion at all. But, tonight, we can report the deep state house of cards is tumbling and tonight also, we have more damning Strzok-Page texts that have been uncovered. We will share with you and the level of corruption we now see is beyond shocking. And, tonight, I'm going to explain why Robert Mueller has no choice but to end his witch-hunt and how, if he doesn't, he will forever destroy great institutions in this country like the FBI, the DOJ, the CIA and more. The choice, the power is in his hands. Also tonight, we have an update to bring you on the Democrat's dirty tactics. Last-minute tactics to block the Kavanaugh confirmation. We have a brand new media blitz from Democratic savior, yes, the great one is back, Barack Obama. Yes, the anointed one. You're going to see what is a veiled cheap shot that he is taking at FOX News and talk radio. So, sit tight, buckle up, it's time for tonight's Friday edition opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right, Florence keeps pounding the Carolinas. It is still extremely dangerous, and joining us now with a quick update on the ground in North Topsail Beach, North Carolina, is hurricane Steve Harrigan -- Steve. STEVE HARRIGAN, FOX NEWS SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: Sean, this part of the coast has simply been pounded for the past 30 hours. We have seen more than 20 inches of rain and winds strong enough to shear off the roofs of houses close to that beach line. Finally, we are getting some break in the action. A light rain and light breeze. That's going to make it a lot easier for first responders to do their job and that job is growing as the water keeps rising. The police chief here says they're going out at first light to try and see areas. They have been unable to get to the roads here still very treacherous, downed power lines, water and debris. So, it's going to be the start of a long clean up and rescue operation at first light. Sean, back to you. HANNITY: All right. Steve, I don't think anyone is getting gas at that BP station any time soon. All right. For everybody, please stay safe. We'll have more coverage throughout the show. But, first, the left wing destroy Trump media is so quick. Remember, lavishing so much praise on Bob Woodward and his new anti-Trump book. Now, this is a book with, of course, unnamed anonymous sources over 100 of them. But today, he threw them a bit of a curve ball. I don't think they are going to be reporting this on the other channels. I'm just guessing. Take a look. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) HUGH HEWITT, THE HUGH HEWITT SHOW: Did you Bob Woodward hear anything in your research and your interviews that sounded like espionage or collusion? BOB WOODWARD, AUTHOR, "FEAR": I did not. Of course I looked for it, looked for it hard. So, you know, there we are, we are going to see what Mueller has. And Dowd may be right, he has something that Dowd and the president don't know about, a secret witness or somebody who has changed their testimony as you know that often happens and that can break open or turn a case. HEWITT: But you've seen no collusion? WOODWARD: I have not. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Yes, he looked hard. That's right. No evidence of collusion because there was no collusion. Also today, we learned that Paul Manafort is not going to face a second trial. He did plead guilty to two counts of conspiracy now agreed to the Department of Justice. And naturally, many in the media, on the left -- they have been out there reporting and predicting doom and gloom for President Trump over this. Unfortunately, for them those characterizations couldn't be further from the truth. Listen to Manafort's attorney from earlier today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MANAFORT'S LAWYER: Tough day for Mr. Manafort but he has accepted responsibility and he wanted to make sure that his family was able to remain safe and live a good life. He has accepted responsibility and this is for conduct that dates back many years. And everybody should remember that. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Everybody should remember that these charges are old, old charges, completely predating 2016, the presidential election. Now, the president's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, who will join us tonight in just a minute, he released a statement that says, quote, once again an investigation has concluded with a plea having nothing to do with President Trump or the Trump campaign. The reason? The president did nothing wrong. Let me reiterate. Multiple sources have confirmed to me and others tonight despite what the media is reporting this guilty plea has nothing to do with the campaign, Trump or any collusion with Russia. We have numerous sources confirming to us tonight. Instead it has everything to do with Manafort not paying federal taxes on millions of dollars which he made as an unregistered lobbyist for Ukraine's former pro-Russian president. "The Daily Caller" is reporting tonight that Manafort's cooperation has nothing to do with Russia and collusion with the special counsel and has a lot more to do with the man by the name of Tony Podesta. He's the brother of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta. He's founder of a once very large lobbying organization called the Podesta Group. And according to the Manafort indictment, if the media would ever take the time read it, various employees of companies A and B understood that they were receiving direction from Manafort and, yes, that president of Ukraine. And "The Daily Caller" is reporting that company B is the Podesta Group. "Politico" is reporting that a letter from the Justice Department shows that Podesta knew that Manafort was working at the direction of the Ukrainian government, and even a "New York" fake news "Times" is reporting, quote: Mr. Manafort could also be instrumental in investigations now underway of lobbyists and influence brokers who work with him in Ukraine. Including, "New York Times" says it, Tony Podesta, a prominent Democratic lobbyist; Vin Weber, former Republican member of Congress and Greg Craig you may remember him from the impeachment days, former White House counsel and the administration of President Barack Obama and he represented Bill Clinton back in the day. Now, we have reached out to Tony Podesta, his lawyers for comment. As of tonight, we have not heard back. And that's not all. More bad news from Democrats coming out of the Manafort probe. Breaking just moments ago, we now have learned the federal prosecutors weighing whether or not to charge former Obama White House counsel Craig Greg, why? For failing to register as a foreign agent. Now, Mueller is moving away from the fabricated accusations of so-called Trump-Russia collusion and pursuing other leads might finally be a good sign that we might in this country possibly be returning to equal justice and equal application of our laws. This witch-hunt may actually be coming to an end sooner than we thought. And there is one other reach that Mueller made this deal with Manafort today. Now, to be very blunt. There is now in this country a cancer. It is now growing on every single intelligence agency that we once respected in this country. We're now at a tipping point. As a result of all of the corruption, it's taken a long time that we have exposed on this show, including all week this week, at the highest levels, corruption in the FBI, the DOJ, the CIA, and even corruption leading straight from Steele, Christopher Steele, to Bruce Ohr, right into Robert Mueller's office. Every single institution, main institutions of law enforcement in this country have been so tainted by corruption, so tainted by desire to take down the president, if Mueller cares at all about the future integrity of these institutions, this all needs to come to an end, because these once great institutions tonight are hanging in the balance. And we have all the evidence to prove that they have been corrupt. A deep state, based on a deep hatred and deep bias. Example after example of how these institutions broke the law, abused their power, how they have been proven corrupt at the highest levels of these institutions, using their power to favor one candidate over another, trying desperately to destroy Trump before the election, trying to destroy him after he was elected, trying to undo a presidential election in this country -- a duly elected president of we the people -- and in some cases real actual true allusion. Remember, this all starts, can you all trace it back to Hillary Clinton, her campaign, funneling money, through a law firm, Fusion GPS taking the money, paying ex-foreign spy Christopher Steele. They put together a phony dossier, now, we know filled with Russian lies and prop began does, rumors and misinformation. Steele himself won't even stand by his own dossier under oath. He said, oh, no, I can't say if it's true or not. Maybe 50/50. That's when he was under the threat of perjury in interrogatory in Great Britain. That dossier was then passed off to the highest levels of the DOJ and the FBI. And then after FBI people that we know, Comey, Strzok and others, after they put the fix in on the Clinton investigation. We know she broke the law. We know she violated the Espionage Act. We know she obstructed justice -- well, they exonerated their chosen candidate Hillary anyway. Then they used her campaign op research from Russia that she paid for, the dirty dossier, as the basis of an investigation into so-called Trump-Russia collusion. None of them ever verified or corroborated, any of their contents. The FBI, the DOJ, used the dossier to obtain multiple FISA warrants against a Trump campaign associate. Now, we learned all week they were leaking the contents of that dossier to you, the American people before the election and influence the presidential election after the election, through 2017 to destroy a duly elected president in the Trump administration. These are facts. The evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible. Mueller, are you paying attention? All of this based on Clinton bought and paid for Russian lies. The FBI, the DOJ, they covered for her. They spread her lies and now irreparable damage to some of the greatest institutions in American history are happening in the balance tonight. And tonight, yet again, we have brand new just unearthed text messages between Strzok and Page. By the way, I hear there's more coming next week, which show even more leaking to the press of nothing but dossier, phony lies and misinformation. We have been reporting all week that Strzok and Page, you know, that they have been doing this and we have the text messages to prove it. By the way, CNN got late into the game tonight. Welcome aboard. You are only a year and a half too late. They actually uncovered the texts we have been telling you about all week. Welcome to actual journalism for five seconds, fake news CNN. Look at this text from Lisa Page to Peter Strzok, the date December 2016. At that point, President-elect Trump, both Trump haters wrote, quote: It will make your head spin to realize how many stories we played a personal role in. Next stop, text January 2017, it's even more damning. Sitting with Bill watching fake news CNN, I added that part, a ton more out. Hey, let me know when you can talk. We are discussing whether now that this is out, we use it as a pretext to go interview some people. So, what you see here is an obvious effort from Strzok and Page not only to leak information, then used that leak information to justify further investigations and intimidation of other people, exactly what we have been telling you for over a year. And there is more. Look at this text, April 27th, 2017, that shows even more damning evidence of leaking. It's going to be very apparent we cooperated and gave access. A lot for that article that I think is going to be very negative. Add all of this for what we have been reporting for a year and earlier this week where Strzok and Page were texting about media leak strategy. They were also working together on Russian interference op-ed in the lead up to the 2016 election. We also learned, thanks to Catherine Herridge, the FBI sisters in the CIA that were, quote, leaking like mad after the election that were on a vendetta, well, that was the CIA, of course, leaking to the press, lying to numerous FISA court judges, colluding with a foreign spy with deep Russian ties, propagating Russian lies. This is real. This is serious. These are crimes -- by the way, if this special counsel won't investigate it -- we need a special counsel that will. If Mueller's inquiry wraps up without addressing any of this -- well, here's what Lindsey Graham had to say about this very topic. Take a look. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: What I wish Jeff would talk about. I wish some of my colleagues would talk more about. This was going on at the Department of Justice and FBI. I'm going to send a letter today to Rosenstein. These new text messages from Strzok and page about leaking information about the FISA warrant process to the media is just one in a series of events that spring for a special counsel. How much more has to be uncovered at the Department of Justice regarding a political agenda. The Department of Justice and the FBI were political operatives when it came to Trump. They weren't investigators. This screams for a special counsel. So, I agree with Jeff. He shouldn't beat on Sessions personally, but I don't know why Rosenstein who is in charge of this process doesn't see what I see an out-of-control Department of Justice and FBI and what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Let's have a DOJ investigated by somebody outside the Department of Justice. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So, tonight, what he is saying and what we are saying is the same, the integrity of some of the greatest institutions in American history, our FBI, our intelligence committee. The Department of Justice, our CIA, if we can't trust them, if we don't resolve this abuse of power, if people aren't held accountable. We will lose this constitutional republic. That's how serious this is. We are going to have a lot more reaction to the latest deep state developments. Gregg Jarrett and Sara Carter coming up. Rudy Giuliani coming up. But we also have update on the looming Supreme Court confirmation of Judge Kavanaugh. Last night, well, we first reported Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein's Hail Mary attempt at the last minute to destroy Kavanaugh's reputation. She issued what was a cryptic statement about alleged misconduct from Kavanaugh, so-called from an anonymous source that didn't want to be known dating back to when Kavanaugh was in high school -- in other words in the 1980s. Feinstein said she reported the allegation to the FBI. Kavanaugh has been investigated 30 times by the FBI and has been investigated the whole time. And they are declining to investigate. Now, this charge was made public after Kavanaugh's private hearings, after all of his private meetings with Democrats and months after Feinstein first learned about the so-called alleged misconduct. She also met privately with Kavanaugh and never asked him about it. Now, as "The Wall Street Journal's" Kimberley Strassel noted, Feinstein suddenly thought the charges were serious enough to refer to the FBI but apparently not serious enough to ask him a single question about it during his testimony. And Judge Kavanaugh is just days away from being affirmed, he reputed all of these claims, and he wrote, quote: I categorically, unequivocally deny this allegation. I did not do this back in high school or at any time. And by the way, there were 65 other women that he knew at that time that spoke up in favor of his character, including another person supposedly mentioned in the letter said it's not true. What you are seeing from Feinstein is an embarrassing, blatant attempt to smear and slander the character of Judge Kavanaugh. And it's not the only sad moment from the Senate's Democrats' attempt to block Trump's Supreme Court nominee. Remember when Senator Cory Booker himself comparing himself to a Roman gladiator Spartacus for threatening to release the documents to the public except he was told he could release them because they were already released. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: I openly invite and accept the consequences of my team releasing that email right now. This is about the closest I will probably have in my life to I am Spartacus moment. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Yes, I am Spartacus had all of the information ahead of time was told he can release it ahead of time after getting resoundly mocked for over a week over that ridiculous statement, Booker is now walking back his heroic comparisons. As it turns out, he is not Spartacus. He's a far left politician from New Jersey who would love to see the Democrats take back the Senate. He thinks he is going to be president one day. And now, Democrats across America have unveiled secret weapons for midterms. That would be Barack Obama. Unfortunately for Democrats, only 38 percent of the American people want to see him back on the campaign trail. And just by the way, as we saw over and over during his eight, long, hard, difficult years in office, Obama is now using the same corrosive politics of division that he used back in the day. Yesterday taking a shot a at his favorite target: conservatives, talk radio, FOX News. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: Forces of retrenchment and backlash and anger are constantly being fanned. And we've got frankly some media outlets that like to do the fanning. If you wanted to get to get involved and knock on some doors and talk to your friends, talk to some of those family members, talk to -- talk to Aunt Jane who sometimes, you know, listening to the wrong radio program. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Yes, get in their face he once said. He once said, we'll send Mr. Burgess over to Sean Hannity, he'll tear him up. All right. Well, stop whining Mr. Obama. Those were your words to President Trump in 2016. In 53 days, you, the American people, you have the power, you get to decide. You'll get the government you deserve. That means whether or not Obama's cronies get their power back or whether the Trump agenda continues with its success. Here now with reaction to all these breaking news tonight, the author of "The New York Times" bestseller, "The Russian Hoax", he is a FOX News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett. He's number one on the "New York Times" list. And FOX News investigative reporter and contributor, Sara Carter. Sara, this is now five straight days in a row and I'm told more Strzok-Page messages. There's over 50,000 of them, are coming out next week that are even more damning than the reveals about the media leak strategy and everything else. Here's my question. Am I right, that tonight, the institutions that are so great in the minds of most Americans, including my own, the FBI, the Department of Justice, the CIA, the intel community, are they hanging in the balance based on the abuse of power of some at the highest level that now we have incontrovertible evidence about? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Sean, I have spoken to a number of former, very high level intelligence officials and current law enforcement officials. And they say that's absolutely the case. This is hanging in the balance because all of this evidence, this isn't just circumstantial anymore. We are actually seeing the facts on its face point to one thing and one thing only. That this was a deception operation from the very beginning -- and let me explain that a little bit. A deception operation is what CIA is trained to do overseas. It's what the Russians do to other countries. But, instead, it appears that the FBI and possibly members of the CIA were doing it right here in the United States, to their own government. So, there needs to be a special counsel, they said. There needs to be a thorough investigation. Lindsey Graham is right. There needs to be somebody outside of the DOJ to investigate this because the one thing we can't have in our country is have our own agencies, agencies that we entrust ourselves to, our lives to, actually working covertly against their own government and against the people of the United States. HANNITY: Gregg, this is the whole premise of your book, the illicit scheme to elect Hillary Clinton and destroy Donald Trump. That's what this is all about. CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: But who are the people destroying. We've got the highest levels. We've got Strzok, we've got Page. We've got Comey. We've got McCabe. We've got Ohr. We've got Sally Yates. We've got all these people, they all have one thing in common -- they hate Trump. And it goes right into the special counsel's office himself because Steele texting Bruce Ohr, did you get my information over to the special counsel, your contacts there? So, it's the institutions of law enforcement. The FBI, the DOJ, the CIA, the intel community and the special counsel's office, how can anybody in this country have faith in the rule of law now that all of those institutions have been tainted not by rank and file but by the highest people with the most power? GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: You are correct there was a cancer in our government. It's still there. It became malignant under Obama's Department of Justice and James Comey's FBI, John Brennan's CIA. James Clapper's DNI, and it's still going on. Just look at the text messages that we received today. Strzok and Page are obsessed and transfixed with their quote/unquote personal role in leaking and shaping stories and then they are bragging that now we can use this as a pretext to interview people. It's not only mendacious and devious but to the extent that they were leaking highly classified information and they surely were, it is a crime. I'm no fan of a special counsel. (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: You've got to have a special counsel for the investigators who were breaking the law with impunity. HANNITY: I got to believe somewhere in the office of the mind of Robert Mueller, somewhere there's got to be some sense of truth in all of this. And that all of this evidence, all of those abuse of power, he's got to understand that at some point that all of these agencies now will be permanently, if not irreparably damaged in all of this, Sara? CARTER: Yes, and the one thing that he needs to do and, you know, we have spoken to a number of lawmakers who have said the same thing. He needs to wrap up this special counsel investigation which was based off of false, unverified information. Look, all of this was a pretext, Sean. They built a narrative and then they tried to support that narrative. When I tell you this is a deception operation, that means they thought about this from the beginning. They were going to try to find a way to try to connect President Trump to Russia, even if it was based on false information. They leak that to the media -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The irony was the connection. Hillary paid -- CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: -- for the Russian lies that got everybody in trouble because they all wanted to protect her. CARTER: Absolutely. JARRETT: These people loved Hillary Clinton. They hated Donald Trump. He was a threat to positions of power. So, they went about conjuring based upon false evidence a hoax to frame him. I detail it in my book. But every day, new evidence comes out that corroborate the Russia hoax. HANNITY: All right. I've got to let you both go. Great information. Next week is going to be a bombshell week. Look at me, we have not been wrong yet. Sara, Gregg, thank you. Also tonight, Hurricane Florence continues to wreak havoc in the Carolinas. A lot of damage there. For more, we bring in FOX News chief meteorologist Rick Reichmuth is with us. You were right. We were right. It's not stopped and it's now literally dropping inches and inches and inches of rain and it's not seemingly going to stop any time soon. RICK REICHMUTH, FOX NEWS CHIEF METEOROLOGIST: Yes, we got about two feet of rain, two feet of rain in more Morehead City. This is a look at the last 24 hours of the satellite. Started getting rain 30 hours ago and the storm has moved 150 miles is all in the last 30 hours. So, an incredibly slow-moving storm. You can see on the radar picture, not moving much at all. We've got flooding going on. You see these gauges. Here is our big concern -- these are rivers that are at major flooding. That's the purple, moderate flooding is the red. Take a look at what happens over the next five days, Sean, it completely gets major flooding going on down across South Carolina, North Carolina, in across parts of Virginia, because of the rain that's going to fall. That's going to go down all the rivers and we're going to be seeing a lot of rivers well above their record levels that they have ever seen and likely stay that way for a good part of say, five to six days. Here's a satellite image from this. You see right there, the center has moved in across parts of South Carolina, Myrtle Beach still an offshore flow. So, water going away from the ocean, but anywhere to the east of that still seeing this onshore flow. That's where it came on shore 7:15 this morning. We're 14 hours away and it's moved 60 miles. We're also still seeing that energy up across areas towards the outer banks and take a look at this. A lot of areas, Sean, over 20 inches so far probably another 20 inches to go before we are done. HANNITY: All right. Rick Reichmuth in the FOX Weather Center tonight. And our thoughts and prayers go to the people in the Carolinas and elsewhere. We go now to Leland Vittert. He is in Morehead City, in North Carolina. I watched you nearly get blown over a few times. Hope you are holding up okay. LELAND VITTER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Sean, it's certainly better 24 hours later. This is really the first lull we have seen in this storm now in 24 hours. Rick was talking about 24 inches of rain in Morehead City. We have been outside for most of those 24 inches of rain and effects have been devastating. I talked to a captain who flies these waters, actually he's boat is normally tied up dry dock. And he said there are part of the waters around here, those rivers upstream that Rick was talking about that people can't even get to that he said were absolutely devastated so far. And we haven't even begun to really see the high water that is about to come in the next couple of day us. It's very easy in a time like this when you stand out the storm sort of passed or you are between bands, you go, oh, well, it doesn't look so bad. You know, the docks behind you aren't trashed and you then take about another 24 to 48 hours and realize the lives that have been totally upended by this storm. It is going to be extensive damage. The damage will continue now over out next couple of days before we can get to a lot of the areas that are hardest hit. Obviously, we've already had a number of fatalities here. The oak trees so famous in North Carolina turned deadly when they snapped and flew into a house. It's also really hampering a lot of the rescue efforts because the ground has become so saturated by this rain and will continue to become so saturated that even the wind we are feeling now that ordinarily wouldn't be that terrible is enough to snap and uproot some of these oak trees, they fall over. Totally block traffic. Each one of those trees cleared before fire, police, fire crews come back in and also cell phone tower crews to clean stuff up -- Sean. HANNITY: All right. Leland Vittert hang in there, I know you need some sleep. Great job as always. We switch gears now to the major news out of Washington today. Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort had a deal with Robert Mueller's special counsel investigation. Joining us now with reaction, the president's -- on the president's perspective on the matter is his attorney Rudy Giuliani, former New York City mayor. Mr. Mayor, good to see you. RUDY GIULIANI, FORMER NEW YORK CITY MAYOR: Good to see you, Sean. HANNITY: On the Manafort issues, I have been told by numerous and multiple sources close to Manafort and others that in fact whatever cooperation is going to take place is not what is being reported. It would have nothing to do with the campaign, Donald Trump, Russia, collusion of any kind, but more to do with lobbying and other groups. GIULIANI: Well, Sean, that's absolutely true. I mean, the reality is there is a quote put up by a source close to Manafort that the plea agreement has and cooperation agreement has nothing to do with the Trump campaign, quote: there is no evidence of collusion. Now I know that because I have been privy to a lot of facts I can't repeat. But the reality is no evidence of collusion. All you had to do was look at the plea. The plea is to crimes that have to do with Manafort's past, no involvement with Trump. No involvement with the campaign. No involvement with Russia. By the way, there is also no evidence of obstruction. There have been four guilty pleas now and they're completely irrelevant. Mueller -- HANNITY: But you agree with me, Mr. Mayor? You know, look, I know you not only as New York City's mayor but you're one of the toughest prosecutors in the southern district of New York. You were right there putting your life on the line, taking down some of the toughest crime families in the country at the time. But do you agree with me that the integrity of institutions like the FBI, the CIA and DOJ and intel community now hanging in the balance? Because what did we discover here? That the FBI first got Hillary off the hook. They fixed what were obvious crimes she committed. That they were involved in spreading propaganda, misinformation through her bought and paid for dossier that they also used to get a FISA warrant. They lied to FISA court judges and committed a fraud on the court. But the level of leaking and lying and conspiracy to hurt then candidate Trump and then President Trump it's all here. We have the information. There is evidence. GIULIANI: There is no question about it. Here is the collusion strangely, Sean. The collusion is that a whole group of people, Strzok, Page, Ohr, Ohr's wife, Comey, Brennan, Clapper. They decided to first keep them out of the White House so we get the dossier paid for by Hillary Clinton. A million dollars, by the way, to pay for the phony thing. Never revealed properly to the court by the way, completely fraudulent FISA wires leaked illegally, now admitted totally crime, as Gregg Jarrett points out both in his book and now with you. And then finally, when they failed in that mission they just transition right into trying to drive them out of the White House. HANNITY: Yes. GIULIANI: And so this is not -- this is not an investigation based on any facts. There has never been a single fact produced that President Trump in any way colluded with anybody, much less conspired with anybody. HANNITY: But Mr. Mayor-- (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: The man is totally innocent. HANNITY: We do know the FBI. We do know the DOJ. We do know that then DNI. We know the CIA. All had media leak strategy all related to destroying Donald Trump before the election, after the elections. And not only that, with all due respect, I guess have you got to do business with the guy. I don't. But when we look at the messages from Steele to Bruce Ohr, his wife of course worked for Fusion GPS. But Christopher Steele put all the Russian lies together paid for by Hillary. He is talking about praying he doesn't get exposed. He's also talking about fire walls holdings. Strzok and Page talk about and insurance policy. But then Steele tells Ohr asking Ohr hey, did you get the information that we now know are fabricated lies from Russia did you get them into the special counsel's office. That goes into Robert Mueller's office. He is now taken by the whole thing. (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: Tell you if there is the same relentless pursuit of these people as they have done to President Trump, you're going to find very quickly already admitted evidence of serious crimes and a major conspiracy to first stop him from being president and then to create circumstances where there would be an impeachment. And this is -- my head hangs in shame for the department that I gave 16 years of my life to the Department of Justice as a third ranking official in the Department of Justice when I could proudly say it was a Department of Justice. And the only thing that could be done now is as relentless an investigation of all these people, as they did to President Trump. HANNITY: All right, Mr. Mayor, thank you for being with us. We appreciate it. GIULIANI: Thank you. HANNITY: When we come back, Trace Gallagher has a live update the Democrats' 11th hour attack to smear, slander besmirch the character of Judge Kavanaugh and his confirmation that more on this busy breaking Friday news night. HANNITY: A lot of questions being raised about Senator Dianne Feinstein waiting to reveal the so-called secret letter that she had about an allegation from Judge Kavanaugh from when he was in high school like 1980. An allegation Judge Kavanaugh categorically denies, as well as 65 other women that knew him back in the day as well as another person apparently whose name was mentioned in this case. Joining us now though, first from our west coast newsroom with an update, Trace Gallagher. Trace, what do you got on this? TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, you have to remember, Sean, Dianne Feinstein got this letter back in July. She then met with Brett questioned him twice during the confirmation hearings and sent written follow-up questions and never one time raised the issue. Feinstein now says she was trying to protect the woman's anonymity. The letter has been given to White House counsel Don McGahn as well as senators on Capitol Hill. Though it's unclear how many senators have actually read it. The accusation is from an unnamed woman who claims Brett Kavanaugh tried to force himself on her in a locked room at high school party some 35 years ago. Kavanaugh says quoting, "I categorically and unequivocally deny this allegation. I did not do this back in high school or at any time." Republicans are rallying behind Kavanaugh. As you mentioned Senate judiciary Chair Chuck Grassley today released that letter signed by 65 women who knew Brett Kavanaugh back in high school defending him as a good person. And while some liberal groups are calling on Kavanaugh to withdraw, Democratic senators at least so far have been mostly quiet about the issue, so two have swing vote Republican senators, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska. Senator Grassley, by the way, says the confirmation process will go forward as scheduled. Sean? HANNITY: All right. Trace Gallagher in our L.A. newsroom tonight. Thank you. Here with reaction all tonight's breaking news all of it, American Conservative Union Chairman Matt Schlapp, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi. Pam, we'll start with you. She had this letter in June. She met with him privately. The woman doesn't want to be disclosed. Didn't want to take it any further. Doesn't want to go public. Another person apparently was mentioned in this letter said it's false. PAM BONDI, FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Right. HANNITY: Sixty five other people say that's not the guy we knew. Why didn't she bring it up with him or bring it up in the hearings if it was something that she was so concerned about? BONDI: Well, she would have, Sean. This is a horrible preposterous attempt to discredit a good man. Legally as a career prosecutor, it would not stand any merit, none. And that's why the FBI is refusing to open it. Nothing, nothing legally could be done about this. It's ridiculous. Morally it's horrible that they are doing this. This a good man with a wife and two young daughters. Ultimately though, they will see their father on the U.S. Supreme Court and that good prevailed. Personally, I know Brett Kavanaugh. But, better than I, my solicitor general was a Kavanaugh clerk, along with many other men and women who think the world of this man. And my solicitor general says he of the upmost integrity and he work by that man side every day. HANNITY: Matt, how do you see it? MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, CPAC: Well, you know, Mercy and I have known Brett for 20 years. We worked in the White House with him. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way, Mercedes Schlapp. Most people don't know Mercedes as Mercy. And you know, she-- (CROSSTALK) BONDI: I call her Mercy. HANNITY: -- she absolutely got the worst part of that deal. I'm just saying. SCHLAPP: Let me tell you Brett Kavanaugh knows her and we worked closely with him and I was with her at dinner tonight. And she said please tell Sean and tell Sean's viewers how repulsed we are by this. By what a good and decent man he is. How wonderful his wife is. What a wonderful family they have. And that what's important to know here is that when you know somebody's character so deeply like I have the fortune to know in the case of Brett Kavanaugh you know what motivates them and he is a perfect person, none of us are, but he is a wonderful person. And he is a wonderfully talented person. And this is a tactic. And they had no other choice because of what Harry Reid did with the filibuster and because the stupidity of those hearings and 300 people getting arrested and acting like kindergartners that they are going back with a tactic about a time when this man was a boy and they are trying to do anything they can to derail him. I just want anybody listening to the show to know that I could not think of a person on the globe who could be a better representative of American values and the things we care about than Brett Kavanaugh. And I'm telling you that this is a tactic, this is false, and the American people will not like this to happen. HANNITY: Let me go back -- let me go back, Pam, to our earlier discussion about I believe tonight hanging in the balance is the credibility of some of the greatest institutions we have. You work with them as a Florida attorney general. I don't like talking badly about the FBI, the CIA, the Intel community in this country or the DI -- the director of national intelligence. But we all know now beyond any doubt that there was at the highest levels, not rank and file, abuse of power. BONDI: That's right. HANNITY: And corruption and law-breaking. BONDI: That's right. HANNITY: And spreading of lies and leaking lies at every level. How do we fix this at this point? BONDI: Well, Sean, hopefully it's being fixed with a grand jury being impaneled. And you've been saying this all along from day one. Now what the American people have to remember we are a nation of laws and no one is above the law. Especially the highest levels of the FBI. And there are thousands of great men and women of the FBI who are out there working tirelessly every day. And I know many of them are disgusted by the reputation that is happening to the FBI because of an elite few. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All of them that I know is disgusting. Yes. I mean, Matt, you see these text messages, you see what they were doing before and after the election. BONDI: Disgusting. HANNITY: And at the heart of it all is Clinton corruption and her Russian bought and paid for lies. And it even sits right into Robert Mueller's office vis-a-vis Christopher Steele and of course his conduit Bruce Ohr. SCHLAPP: Yes. I mean, there have to be a water's edge on political disagreements, right? We are seeing this with the Supreme Court. We are seeing with what happened at the very top echelon of the FBI. It doesn't seem to be that as a country we can just have political disagreements. You have to do things. The left has to do things like try to corrupt the greatest law enforcement institution the world has ever known. The FBI 99.9 percent of the people working there are wonderful, talented patriots. And what they did was repugnant. And you know what, Sean, I think what I hear most when I go around the country is they always say how come nobody is in jail. This is the worst corruption political corruption we have ever seen. HANNITY: Abuse of power ever. And Robert Mueller is not doing anything about it he was former FBI director. he needs to fix it and clean up the mess. Get out the bad actors and save these great institutions with great people that do work in them. SCHLAPP: Amen. HANNITY: All right. Thank you both. When we come back, Dr. Gorka, Larry Elder, they'll weigh in on the left shameless attempt to actually use the storm and the hurricane to score cheap political points against Trump. You can't make this crap up but it's real. HANNITY: The left as is common practice they will use anything, everything to try to attack President Trump. Now they are even using the hurricane that's been hammering the Carolinas to criticize the president. Saying he complicit with the hurricane. And it gets worse than that. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have a president that is denying the impacts of, you know, this hurricane season last year and this year and actively making the problem worse by not addressing this root cause of foreseen storms. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: President Trump says FEMA is ready for hurricane Florence but mounting evidence suggests it could be incredibly difficult to deal with this disaster if climate change deniers are on the front lines of emergency response. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think you are elevating Trump to evil whereas having raised three kids, I just think is he a giant toddler. With no real connection to reality and no sense of empathy or responsibility. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He came across as almost gleeful and excited about the hurricane and how big it is and how tremendously wet it's going to be and all these absurd things that came out of his mouth. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: According to two Harvard scientists Trump's environmental policy could say lead to 80,000 unnecessary deaths every decades. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Here with reaction Salem nationals -- nationally syndicated radio host Larry Elder, the author of the bestseller coming out "Why We Fight," our friend, Fox News national security strategist Dr. Sebastian Gorka. Larry, I guess he is complicit. He has such a close relationship with God that he conspired with God and maybe Putin, too, to build a hurricane that's going to hurt innocent people. That's how sick they've gotten. LARRY ELDER, SYNDICATED RADIO SHOW HOST: Well, Sean, this is all about portraying Trump not only as incompetent, not only a climate change denier but as racist. Remember what they did to George W. Bush, Kanye West during a fundraiser says George W. Bush doesn't care about black people. Representative Barney Fyffe called George Bush's response to Katrina ethnic cleansing by inaction. And just recently one of the pundits on CNN said that if 3,000 white people had died during the Puerto Rican storm Trump would not have called that a success. Wink, wink, nod, nod. Trump is a racist, he only cares about white people. It is absolutely outrageous but that's what the left does. HANNITY: Well, just like in the election, this is a white lash. I mean, that was the reaction on fake news CNN. You remember well, Dr. Gorka, because I think you compared them to the Cartoon Network at the time. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: I did and CNN and Anderson Cooper will never forgive me but hey, ratings are ratings. Yes, they are desperate, Sean, because there is no evidence of collusion, even Bob Woodward's book couldn't find any evidence, so now Donald Trump is colluding with God and with the gods of weather. It's absurd. And every quote you just had, all of those clips, none of those people, none of them know Donald Trump like you know him, like I know him. He is driven above all else by one thing, Sean, by keeping Americans alive and keeping them safe. Whether it's crushing ISIS, whether it's staunching the flow of MS-13 across our border, and stopping the opioid epidemic. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me ask-- GORKA: These people-- HANNITY: A serious question. I don't know if people have understand what's at stake in 53 days. Do you think they get it? Do you think people that voted for Trump, are they going to go out and they are going to protect the House and Senate from Nancy Pelosi and company. Larry, we will start with you. ELDER: I think they will. I think the Republicans are getting energized. They realize what's at stake. We know what's at stake. The first day when the Democrats take control of the House, they are going to begin impeachment proceedings. I have told you before, Sean, I know I'm the minority on this. I think there will be 20 or 30 insane Democrats who won't impeach. Because they realize if you impeach Trump for petty reasons or political reasons, because you don't like his style. Then the next guy or gal who comes in could be impeached because we don't like his or her policies or his or her style-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I don't think about style. ELDER: His agenda certainly will be gummed up which is what they want to do. HANNITY: And Dr. Gorka, it's not about anything but style. They don't like the style and they don't like that he's taken on and expose the deep state. They tried to stop him before the election and after he became president. GORKA: Sean. HANNITY: They got caught. They all now are exposed. GORKA: Style is an excuse. Who cares about style? I mean, the guy gets things done the issue isn't style. The issue is Donald Trump doesn't owe anything to anybody that's why he's dangerous. He doesn't owe the GOP anything. He doesn't owe the media anything. He doesn't owe the Democrats. he doesn't owe anybody. He is there for one reason, to represent the Americans who believe that we should be a great nation again. And, in 53 days, it is all at stake. The economy, the national security we've gained. Our international relations. It is that serious. And Donald Trump, his agenda is on the ballot when you go to vote at the midterms. HANNITY: Larry, last word? ELDER: Well, I find it remarkable that the left is telling us that the economy is disproportionately benefiting the rich. But Obama comes out of retirement and takes credit for it so bad why is Obama trying to take credit for it. HANNITY: By the way, median income now at all-time high. The first raise people have gotten since 1999. More jobs than people on unemployment insurance. Unbelievable available. More records on unemployment than we have ever set. Thank you both. We appreciate it. When we come back, another update on Florence and the damage the storm has left in its wake. It's severe. Our thoughts and prayers are with everybody. We'll continue. HANNITY: Florence continues to wreak havoc on North Carolina dumping inches and inches of rain. We go back to Leland Vittert, he is in Morehead City, North Carolina with an update. Have you had any sleep in the last 24 hours? LELAND VITTERT, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Yes. Well, you can sleep later, Sean. Right now, frankly we don't have it nearly as bad as anybody else does in this storm. You know, you said Morehead City. Now we are at 24 inches of rain and counting as more rain continues to come down. Certainly when we left you last night at this time, the conditions were far worse. So things are improving, but it is telling how slow they are to improve. Normally it would only have been about 8 to 12 hours of really intense conditions. We have had 24 hours of it. And that's one of the conditions that this storm is going to be so destructive, it may not have the wind speed but it certainly has that unbelievable amount of flooding and rainfall. It has the storm surge and it sticks around for so long that this is there is this exponential effect. And we've seen that as we just drove a couple of miles around here. That's as far as we could go as in terms of looking at the damage. HANNITY: Yes. VITTERT: A number of businesses destroyed. HANNITY: Leland. VITTERT: Homes crushed. Trees to toppled. Blocking highways, you name it, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Stay safe. Get some sleep. Great coverage. And our thoughts and prayers to all the people that have been impacted. We will always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham. Load-Date: September 15, 2018 End of Document North Carolina Coast Slammed by Hurricane Florence; Anonymous Allegations, Which Brett Kavanaugh Denies, Happened 17 Years Ago; A Number of Women Signs a Letter in Support of Brett Kavanaugh's Character; Paul Manafort Has Agreed to a Plea Deal with Robert Mueller to Cooperate Fully and Truthfully on the Russia Investigation; Chelsea Clinton is Criticized for Statements on Abortion; Reports of Les Moonves History of Sexual Misconduct Examined; Representative Maxine Waters Compares Family Separation of Immigrants to Family Separation During Slavery; Former President Obama Gives Speech in Cleveland Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 14, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7876 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Steve Harrigan, Rick Leventhal, Howie Kurtz, Raymond Arroyo, Leland Vittert Guests: Meghan McCaleb, Helgi Walker, Porter Wilkinson, Joe DiGenova, Kendall Coffey, Joe DiGenova, Horace Cooper, Leo Terrell, Craig Shirley Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Stay safe. Get some sleep. Great coverage. And our thoughts and prayers to all the people that have been impacted. We'll always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham -- LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX SHOW HOST: Good evening. I'm Laura Ingraham and this is the THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. Hurricane Florence is sweeping through the Carolinas. We're going to keep you updated with critical reports throughout the hour. And now Democrats scrambling with their 11th hour smears against Brett Kavanaugh. Plus, new explosive Page-Strzok texts blow the lid open on a media FBI loop that looks like it was meant to take Trump out from the beginning. Oh, that's a shock. And Maxine Waters compares Trump's immigration policy to -- you guessed it -- slavery. All that head, and of course the "Friday Follies" with Raymond Arroyo so stick around for that. But first, let go right to Fox News correspondent Steve Harrigan who is in North -- Topsail Beach in North Carolina. Steve, what do you see? STEVE HARRIGAN, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Laura, outside of the camera lights and police lights, much of this part of the coast of North Carolina is in the dark. More than 500,000 North Carolinians without electric power, many in homes that have been damaged by the winds, damaged by flooding. That means they have no air conditioning, no TV, no cell phone service, and some of them are in life-threatening conditions. Now, the rescues have begun already. People coming from around the country, swift boat rescue teams from at least 19 states here. That's one of the remarkable things about these storms. It really brings out the volunteers from all over. The police chief here said they are going to set out at first light to see some areas they have not yet seen. We have finally gotten a break after 30 hours from that pounding rain and wind. That wind, strong enough to damage houses along the coast. Not major structural damage, but bits and pieces. Some part of roofs, balconies, things like that blown off making the roads very treacherous for travel. But they will start out tomorrow morning to try and help those people as those floodwaters continue to rise here across the state. Laura, back to you. INGRAHAM: All right, Steve, thanks so much. Stay safe. And now let's get to Fox News correspondent Rick Leventhal who is in Wilmington, North Carolina. Rick? RICK LEVENTHAL, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: And Laura, I just want to update Steve's numbers. There are now roughly 800,000 customers across North Carolina without power including as far as we can tell, everyone here in Wilmington. Wrightsville Beach was in the dark as well where we were for the last few days. And the water there today rose to the highest it's ever been, almost five feet above high tide. So the roads there were completely flooded for hours today and a lot of homes put at risk. We drove from there into a neighborhood just on the other side of the intracoastal and saw dozens of trees that have toppled. A lot of branches down and big old trees, some of them 50 years-old or more that were blocking roads. They weren't letting anyone in except residents and tree companies because they need to clear all that debris out of the way. The roads, treacherous, many flooded areas and the traffic lights are all out. We saw state troopers (ph) in a lot of intersectiones because there is no traffic light working in this part of North Carolina and they expect things to continue get worse. The trees coming down, it is a bigger problem that people might realize. A tree fell on a house here in Wilmington earlier today and killed a woman and her infant child and the husband was also injured. He was taken to the hospital. But two of the five dead were from a tree coming down and someone else died when they were trying to plug in a generator and plug in an extension cord. So a lot of the hazards come, Laura, as you know after the hurricane passes. But, by the way, it's still storming out here. We had a band (ph) come through minutes ago that was almost as ferocious as the hurricane itself. So, they are expecting more of these bands to come through as night comes on and the rain to continue for two or three more days. So the flooding hazards will continue for a while here. INGRAHAM: Thanks so much, Rick. Rick and Steve, two of the hardest working reporters out there covering Hurricane Florence. And we will continue to bring you live updates from North Carolina throughout the hour. Meanwhile, the MeToo movement has become, let's face it, a powerful force as victims have come forward to make accusations against those who they say abused them. We have seen this in Hollywood, major figures taken out, the media, major figures taken out, politics, ditto. First hand accounts backed up by witnesses have led to some of the accused admit their guilt in the end, which brings us to the latest charges against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. Now, in this case, no one has come forward and witnesses dispute the charge. But "The New Yorker" is reporting allegations of an unnamed woman who claims that Kavanaugh, while in high school tried to force himself upon her. Now, Kavanaugh is vehemently denying it took place in high school or at anytime. And the only other corroborating witness has no recollection of it whatsoever. So what are we left with? A nearly four decades old anonymous charge released late in the game. Now, remember we told you late last night that Senator Dianne Feinstein had a letter containing allegations back in July related to this. Well, she chose to sit on it. So she let Brett Kavanaugh go through a series of Senate meetings, three days worth of seemingly unending testimony on the Senate Judiciary Committee and answer 263 pages worth of follow up questions. But now, at the last minute, the Democrats drop this bombshell on him and some of this media people just lap it up. It's all eerily reminiscent of what the Democrats did to my old boss, Clarence Thomas, 25 plus years ago after a leaked FBI memo they reopened his confirmation proceeding so they could basically publicly humiliate Thomas and his family. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CLARENCE THOMAS, ASSOCIATE JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME COURT: How would any member on this committee, any person in this room or any person in this country would like sleaze said about him or her in this fashion? Or this dirt dredged up and this gossip and these lies displayed in this manner? How would any person like it? The Supreme Court is not worth it. No job is worth it. I am not here for that. I am here for my name, my family, my life, and my integrity. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The Kavanaugh case has an all too familiar taint, doesn't it? Detailed legitimate concerns should be dealt with in the FBI background check process or then followed up at, of course, in the public hearings. Not in this 11th hour media circus. Joining us now with reaction is Meghan McCaleb. She is one of 65 women who knew Kavanaugh in high school who wrote a letter supporting him. Helgi Walker, worked with Brett Kavanaugh in the White House Council's Office, Porter Wilkinson is a former clerk for Judge Kavanaugh. Helgi, let's start with you. Of the entire panel, you have known Brett Kavanaugh the longest. And, I am livid about what they are doing to him. I can imagine you are as well. Your reaction? HELGI WALKER, WORKED WITH JUDGE KAVANAUGH: Laura, you and I have been friends with Judge Kavanaugh. We used to call him Brett for 25 years. I have also worked with him in the White House Counsel's Office side by side every day. He treated me like a serious lawyer, like his equal, like his teammate in every fashion. He took me seriously. He debated issues with me. This is a man who treats women with the utmost respect, courtesy. He is a complete gentleman. He is a kind and a gentle and a decent person. And it make me upset too, Laura, that somebody who is willing to be on the Supreme Court who we are fortunate to have a person of those qualification be willing to serve to be smeared like this at the very last minute. It was such an obvious attempt to try to stop him or at least tarnish him in some way because some people just can't accept the fact that he is so well-qualified -- INGRAHAM: Oh, he's going to be confirmed. WALKER: -- and that he is going to be on the Supreme Court. INGRAHAM: Meghan, I want to go to you because there has been some whispering around Washington about this letter, the 65 classmates who signed this letter in support of Judge Kavanaugh. And it was said that this letter had been written long ago. Is that the case because I know you signed it? I just want to clear that up once and for all. MEGHAN MCCALEB, SIGNED LETTER IN KAVANAUGH DEFENSE: No. That is absolutely not the case. We got wind of this his yesterday from my husband who received a call from a reporter with those allegations. And we couldn't believe it. Absolutely couldn't believe it. I have known Brett since I was a freshman in high school and we knew we had to rally around him. INGRAHAM: So have you known him since high school. You have known him longer than we have. And if anything in his character indicate behavior such as that is alleged today, again, by an anonymous person in a letter that Feinstein sat on since July. Anything in his background or character? MCCALEB: Absolutely nothing. He always treated us -- girls with respect always. And it was simple to find 65 women to sign that letter from five different high schools. Everybody jumped on board and was happy to sign it on his behalf. And they all saw it and agreed with it. INGRAHAM: I have to say, I think this is a big embarrassment for the MeToo movement. There are legitimate claims that have been raised and voiced and people put their names behind those claims and accusations even if they are long ago. This is someone who refuses to give her name for whatever reason and it ends up in the hands of Dianne Feinstein and never released. Porter, I have to ask you about this. What about those circumstances. Dianne Feinstein doing this in this way. PORTER WILKINSON, FORMER KAVANAUGH LAW CLERK: Well, I'm not a political commentator and so I don't have a lot to say about the way that Dianne Feinstein have handled this besides for the fact that I believe that she takes the concerns of women seriously. And if she thought that there was a serious credible allegation here, that she would have come forth sooner and said something and during the FBI background check or the hearing. INGRAHAM: Tell us about Judge Kavanaugh the boss. WILKINSON: I was a law clerk to Judge Kavanaugh in 2007 and 2008 and I worked closely with him day in and day out, helping him prepare for cases and decide cases. And he is unfailingly kind and respectful. A man of the highest character, unassailable integrity, and these allegations are (inaudible) inconsistent with the man that I have known well for over a decade. INGRAHAM: You know what's amazing ladies, is that there was a tweet from Obama's top guy, Brian Fallon, the campaign or is it Hillary's campaign, excuse me. And he tweeted this out today in response to this Emily Singer (ph) tweet. Emily Singer tweeted, "Makes the whole bring in the daughter's basketball team and talk about how great a coach he was look even more transparent." And then Fallon tweets back, "And his emphasis on hiring women clerks." I would like you to respond to that so, in other words, he hired female clerks for 12 years in anticipation of being nominated to the Supreme Court. Porter? WILKINSON: Laura, I'm not alone in my assessment of Judge Kavanaugh. I think you know that women from every phase of his life have written letters to the Senate Judiciary Committee supporting his nomination. Every single one of his female clerks who was not prohibited from signing a letter based on their current employment vouched for his character, his integrity, the fact that it is because of him that they are succeeding in their careers. INGRAHAM: There is an moment in an interview I did with Justice Thomas last November so, we just started THE INGRAHAM ANGLE, about whether this whole process and what he went through, again, an 11th hour hit, leaked FBI memo that was already investigated by the FBI and dismissed accusation by Anita Hill. And this is what he said. Let' watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Twenty-eight years ago you went through the worst confirmation spectacle in history. Was it worth it? THOMAS: I think we are called to do certain things. I don't think anyone would choose to go through unpleasantness, but if it has to be that to do what is right then so be it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAN: Helgi. WALKER: Well, I clerked for Justice Thomas like you did, Laura, and we're part of that special family and it's just so disappointing that the confirmation process and the Senate Judiciary Committee has sunk so low. We could be having a conversation about the constitution. We could be having a conversation about the 300 opinions that Judge Kavanaugh has written. We could be talking about the future of our country. Instead, we are talking about trash, smut, anonymous allegations and even Justice Ginsburg yesterday, a liberal icon, a fighter for women's rights, respected by so many people across the aisle said, the confirmation process, the way it is now is wrong. So, if liberals don't believe Justice Ginsburg then I don't know who they will listen to. INGRAHAM: Meghan, have you been in touch with Judge Kavanaugh? How is he doing? How is his family doing throughout this process? It certainly was rough in that confirmation hearing especially when they had the planned protests and you have the, you know, all the usual suspects disrupting the proceedings for so long. MCCABE: You know, I saw them at the hearings and they are doing as well as to be expected. INGRAHAM: Well, there was one moment last night and I want you I guys to respond, maybe Helgi. This is Lawrence O'Donnell raising this issue, this allegation. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LAWRENCE O'DONNELL, MSNBC HOST: The fact that the senator and the congresswoman issued statements about it today and took the step -- Senator Feinstein took the step to the FBI, is where we are now and we do not know where we're going to be tomorrow. RACHEL MADDOW, MSNBC HOST: No, this is, I mean, we overuse the word unprecedented for Supreme Court nominations even with the Clarence Thomas background. This is absolutely unprecedented. O'DONNELL: It really is. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: (inaudible) just so pathetic. I'm sorry. Even at "Morning Joe" this morning had to say, this is kind of -- I mean, even they were -- they can't stand Trump at "Morning Joe." Even they were saying come on, guys. This is -- you have made a mockery of the senate confirmation process for the Supreme Court. We have all these incredibly impressive women. Porter who is not a political person, decided to come on and put her name out there tonight. Obviously Meghan, did you out same thing. Helgi you have better things to do, but you are out here to stand against unfairness. WALKER: And I would like American women to know that all the women on this set today are accomplished impressive women excluding myself who have things to say and we all think he is great. And would you take the word of people who have known him for 25 years or would you listen to this ridiculous last-minute character assassination. INGRAHAM: All of you, thank you so much for joining us tonight, Porter, Helgi and Meghan. And what an embarrassment for the media. First, this desperate attempt to smear Kavanaugh, then they reported a story about a U.S. ambassador early this morning that turns out to be totally false. The "New York Times" hit piece indicated that Nikki Haley had spent nearly $53,000, indicated, on curtains in her residence in New York. Except, guess what? It wasn't Trump's State Department. It was Obama's. So "The Times" is now walking back that story. Like, if you are going to do a hit job, don't fall flat on your face my friends. Joining me now with reaction is Howie Kurtz, the host of "Media Buzz" which airs Sundays here on FNC. Howie, how are you? Big news night for a Friday night and we have to hit this Nikki Haley thing first because this seems reminiscent of the Ben Carson spending too much money and Scott Pruitt flying around on (inaudible) and now it's Nikki Haley. Something didn't just -- it didn't ring true to me when I heard it. What really happened? HOWARD KURTZ, FOX NEWS HOST: One of the worst headlines I have ever seen in the "New York Times" or any other newspaper trying to paint Nikki Haley some kind of out of control, Scott Pruitt spending tens of thousands of dollars on unnecessary luxuries. Except when you read down to the fourth paragraph of the story, it says that she had nothing to do with this purchase of these $50,000 curtains. It was the Obama State Department as you say. And the editors now say, well gee, we created unfair impression and we should not have focused on Nikki Haley. What was missing is two things. One is the story should have been obliterated, blown up, digitally erased because it has no longer has any reason to be and there should be an apology from the paper to Nikki Haley. INGRAHAM: Yes. I mean, I saw that there was an editor's note. Who reads an editor's note? That's like way down at the bottom of the story. I mean, that's it? They are able to do that at the "New York Times," assail her character, which essentially is what it was, and then add a little blitz at the end? KURTZ: Well, at least there was some acknowledgment of all the criticism with the editor. I just don't think the editor know it went far enough. Not only was it a bad headline, when you say that it was unfair to famous as a Nikki Haley expenditure then the story simply has no reason -- INGRAHAM: But Howie, they should be publishing above the fold in tomorrow's paper a print edition if they want to gain a shred of credibility back because the "The New York Slimes" -- I'm sorry -- it's what they are now, is proving themselves to be another extension of the DNC. That's all it is. DNC, Obama, Hillary -- whatever it is. If the old gray lady, you know, should be red-faced with shame after -- just that one piece. I got to ask you about this Ronan Farrow getting this memo though today and again, it's the same letter that Dianne Feinstein gets. He gets it, then he goes on TV and starts talking about it. Well, he won the Pulitzer Prize. He has a lot of credibility in reporting these issues. Obviously, Weinstein, and what NBC did to stop that story and other cases like it. But I was kind of surprised that he decided to kind of like go on television and talk about this given how thin and how old and how uncorroborated this particular allegation is. KURTZ: Yes. Well before Ronan Farrow did that today, I think most of the media were sort of cautious about what had all the earmarks of a late hit. I mean, mysterious letter, anonymous accuser who had something that may allegedly have happened when Brett Kavanaugh was 17 years old. But Ronan Farrow, because of his credibility I reporting on Harvey Weinstein and Les Moonves, sort of gave the rest of the media cover to now go on TV and (inaudible) -- he did not interview this woman. He got a hold of the memo and you know -- INGRAHAM: Big deal. KURTZ: I admire his reporting but I think it's fair to point out that he worked for the Obama state department. INGRAHAM: Again, I will say, what he did on the other stories, that's called shoe leather reporting. This is taking a little gift wrapped up from Dianne Feinstein and going on television and say, OK, everybody else, you are clear. You have cover to go off and talk about this as if it is something that happened, you know, five years ago in his office over there at the D.C. Circuit. I'm telling you this is insult to real assault cases and real sexual harassment. Women who've been victimized should see this for what it is. A pure political attack, late hit on a great man. I really appreciate it. Go ahead, last word. KURTZ: We just don't know the details because the accuser is anonymous and unlike Anita Hill at least, testified and was cross-examined. The media need to be extraordinarily careful, Laura, about not being used in an 11th hour smear. INGRAHAM: I appreciate it, Howie Kurtz. And Paul Manafort has accepted a plea deal with the special counsel Bob Mueller and Trump haters celebrating. Joe DiGenova explains why they might want to save the confetti. Plus, some explosive new texts between Strzok and Page. All that, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUDY GIULIANI, ATTORNEY TO PRESIDENT TRUMP: All he had to do is look at the plea. The plea is the crimes that have to do with Manafort's past. No involvement with President Trump. No involvement with the campaign. No involvement with Russia. And, by the way, there is also no evidence of obstruction. There have been four guilty pleas now. And they are completely irrelevant. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was Rudy Giuliani moments ago with Sean Hannity shredding the narrative of the resistance after Paul Manafort agreed to plead guilty in a deal with special counsel Bob Mueller today. And despite the media proclamations all day long, we still don't know that Manafort is cooperating with Mueller's team against President Trump. Joining me now to break it all down, Joe DiGenova, is a former U.S. attorney in Washington, and Kendall Coffey, former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida. Gentlemen, great to see both of you. Joe, you said earlier today, I believe, that this is a Potemkin village. This is a mirage. Tell our viewers why that is. JOE DIGENOVA, FOMER U.S. ATTORNEY: Well, this was done for the benefit of Mr. Mueller and the benefit of Mr. Manafort. It accomplishes absolutely nothing. It has nothing to do with Mr. Mueller's mandate. It prevents Mr. Manafort from getting consecutive time. It also prevents Mr. Mueller from having to go through a trial and waste resources. And it also permits Mr. Manafort to cooperate in the ongoing investigation by Mueller of Tony Podesta and of others including Gregory Craig, formerly of the law firm Skadden Arps. So all in all, I would say the walls are closing in but not on the president. INGRAHAM: Kendall, I want to go to you because Alan Dershowitz called this a big deal today. He said, you know, basically this was not great news for the administration. He also then discussed the issue of a possible pardon and the timing of a pardon for Paul Manafort. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALAN DERSHOWITZ, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL PROFESOR: I think once he agrees to cooperate, he has to cooperate about everything. There is no such thing as partial cooperation. The question is did he cooperate too late? Would he have been better off cooperating before his first trial? I think he was perhaps hoping for a pardon. And then the question comes up, did the president act too late if he was going to pardon, he would have been much better off pardoning early rather than waiting until he has already cooperated. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Kendall, your thoughts on the pardon issue and overall development today with the Manafort plea. KENDALL COFFEY, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: Well, it doesn't look like a pardon is going to happen. Manafort may have waited for one hopefully and then decided he had throw in the towel. But I don't agree that this is a major, major event. Manafort really have no choice after he lost the first trial. And if indeed he had the goods on the president, don't you think he would have been cooperating a long time ago if he that kind of leverage? If we look at this set of criminal charges and compare it to Michael Cohen -- now the Michael Cohen charges did try to take an aim at the president. This doesn't do anything like that. And in fact, if you look at the charges, rather than suggesting collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, it suggests collusion between Manafort and Democrats with respect to the apparently allegedly illegal efforts to lobby on behalf of Ukrainian government forces. INGRAHAM: Yes. And before we get to the Strzok-Page text, Joe, you mentioned briefly Greg Craig, former Obama White House counsel for the first year of the administration. He is now -- I guess they are weighing federal charges against him in the Southern District of New York as unregistered foreign agent and against his old law firm, Skadden Arps, which full disclosure, I worked for 20 years ago. But, that's an interesting development for people who haven't been following this. They are sucking up perhaps the Podesta, sucking up Greg Craig. Again, none of it related to Trump but it is related to the idea of working on behalf of foreign countries and not disclosing it. So, where is the collusion there? DIGENOVA: Well, there is none for President Trump and his campaign. There is plenty there for the Democrats, not only the derivation of the dossier and the working with Russian officials to generate it through Christopher Steele. But it was obvious and that's why Podesta, Tony Podesta, had to close his lobbying form because they had never registered as foreign agents. And that case was turned over and it's now quite evident that the southern district of New York is investigating both Gregory Craig for his role in the undisclosed Ukraine work from the United States and Mr. Podesta. This is all good quite good for the president because it makes his point quite beautifully and I must say, with some fashion. This is where the rubber meets the road. There never has been any evidence of collusion by the president of the United States and his campaign and actually the plea by Manafort today simply underscores that. INGRAHAM: Yes. And it's not clear that Manafort is cooperating on Trump. He could be cooperating on the Greg Craig-Podesta issue instead. I want to move on though to another big story. Tonight, more explosive texts just released between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. And it includes this exchange, check it out, from December 19th, 2016 rigth after the election. Strzok text Page the following, "It will make your head spin to realize how many stories we played a personal role in." Page responds, "Sheesh, this has been quite a year" and forwards a link to the "New York Times" most read stories of 2016. Kendall, what does this tell you about the paramour's involvement with the media in setting a narrative against Trump and his associates? COFFEY: Yes, deeper and worse than we thought. We already thought it was pretty bad. They talked about stopping the Trump candidacy, now they are orchestrating a media campaign. An by the way, throwing some things in there, how they're going to maybe setup some pretexts for interviews, coordinating ongoing leaks, obviously aimed at the Trump administration. So this is a serious thing. And what is going to be difficult is trying to understand and nail down how much influence did they have on others who were involved. They were high ranking people. They were involved in critical periods during all of this, but where is the influence end and how do we diagnose just how much of a taint there is on this? INGRAHAM: And Lindsey Graham, of course, has called for a second special counsel, Joe DiGenova. Jeff Sessions, you know, god bless him. Rod Rosenstein -- like this is screaming investigation. We have the inspector general investigation ongoing, but this needs a Justice Department regular process investigation or a special counsel. This is ridiculous. Setting up a pretext for interviews of Trump officials based on leaks that they planted in the media. So it's like this -- it's this feedback loop in order to get the Trump folks. This is -- they call Trump and autocrat? This is maddening. DIGENOVA: As I've been saying for two years, there was a brazen plot to illegally exonerate Hillary Clinton in the email case, and then if she lost to frame Donald Trump. And that is exactly what these texts are about. Whether or not Mr. Strzok and Lisa Page and others are indicted is certainly a question people can debate. But let me just say, I know there was a grand jury underway. Testimony is being taken about Strzok, Page, McCabe, and others involved in this case, and the reason we know it is that James Baker, the former general counsel at the FBI has turned states' evidence and is fully cooperated with the inspector general and with the federal grand jury. I can assure you, Mr. Comey has been very silent in recent weeks, and the reason is very simple. He knows he's going to be indicted. INGRAHAM: Wow, pretty explosive on a Friday night. Joe and Kendall, thanks so much. And up next, some appalling comments from Chelsea Clinton about abortion, and the reboot that Les Moonves should be most worried about. Our Friday Follies segment with Raymond Arroyo coming up. And we'll head back to North Carolina for a live update on Florence's incredibly destructive path. Don't move. INGRAHAM: Tropical storm Florence is currently inundating the Carolinas with unprecedented rainfall, wreaking havoc across the region, power outages in the hundreds of thousands. For more let's go to FOX News correspondent Leland Vittert. Leland, last time we talked was this morning on radio, but last night you had made very, very close friends with a beautiful tall, lanky lamppost. So what does tonight bring, Leland? (LAUGHTER) LELAND VITTERT, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, my savior the lamppost is over there. Thank you very much, Mr. Lamppost. You saved me last night. Boy, what a difference 24 hours makes. You probably wouldn't want to go for romantic stroll here in Morehead, North Carolina. But it's not that terrible out. You still have the rain coming down. We've had 24 inches so far here. And that's going to be really the story of Florence. There is wind damage clearly over on Atlantic Beach. There's roofs blown off, there's stores destroyed, but not utter devastation sometimes that you see with really huge, huge powerful hurricanes. This is going to be a flooding hurricane, which means it's going to take another couple of days to figure out just how bad this is. Already talked to the captain of one of the boats that's normally here. He said there are parts now that his friends can't get to, that no one can get to, that are completely cut off and destroyed as the floodwaters continue to rise. He said, though, the most important thing about people here is that they come together as a community. All of these are small communities. He said we don't ask for help. We don't need it. We just get it done. And coming up, there is going to be a lot to get done, Laura. INGRAHAM: Leland, please stay safe out there. And it's good to see you tonight, and great work all throughout this hurricane, which means, look, it's Friday. And what does that mean? It's time for Friday's Follies. Chelsea Clinton may need to atone after some remarks about abortions that she just made. Chelsea Clinton is in a little bit of hot water because she made a remark about an issue which is a little rough. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: And religion, which is the problem. INGRAHAM: Yes. Well, for answers we are joined by "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series, FOX News contributor Raymond Arroyo. Raymond, Chelsea was on Sirius XM radio today and made some alarming remarks. What's going on? ARROYO: Yes, she did. Listen to this, Laura. This is a town hall meeting, a left of center one. She's clearly setting herself up for a political run. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHELSEA CLINTON, DAUGHTER OF BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON: When I think about all of the statistics that are painful of what women are confronting today in our country and what even more women confronted pre-Roe, we just can't go back to that. I think that's unconscionable to me. And also, and I'm sure this will unleash another wave of hate in my direction, but as a deeply religious person it's also un-Christian to me. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: So it's un-Christian to stop people from having abortions. Now, look, no matter where you stand on this issue, and it is a deeply hurtful issue for a lot of people and a wrenching one, to suggest that people who defend life are somehow acting in an un-Christian manner, the men and women who through their religion believe their religion compels them to protect innocent life, these are remarks that I think people are going to be outraged. INGRAHAM: And she says it's going to unleash hate. No, it doesn't unleash hate. It's disbelief. You can disagree about this issue, but it's almost -- you are questioning the Christian beliefs of those who believe it's right to protect the most vulnerable. ARROYO: And you will remember a month ago, she said abortion actually contributed $3.5 trillion in the economy because all the mothers who went into the workplace because they were free of their children. INGRAHAM: How about those millions of babies who weren't born. ARROYO: Right, who weren't contributing to the economy. All of this reminded me of Nancy Pelosi, who you'll remember, the theologian in 2008 had this to say. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI, (D) HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: And as ardent practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time. And what I know is that over the centuries the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition. And senator -- Saint Augustine said at three months. You don't know. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Saint Augustine considered abortion evil violence and said it was deeply immoral. So Nancy Pelosi, she's many things. She can whip up votes. Theologian -- INGRAHAM: Move over St. Thomas Aquinas, because Nancy Pelosi is in town. ARROYO: Laura, as you know, Les Moonves was ejected from CBS after six more women came forward accusing him of abuse. And the CBS board is investigating to see how big a severance package he'll get. His wife Julie Chen appeared finally on "Big Brother," a show she has hosted for 18 years. Here she is last night as she closed out the hour. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JULIE CHEN MOOVES: I'm Julie Chen Moonves. Good night. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: It's the first time she has ever identified as Julie Chen Moonves as a sign of support for her husband. INGRAHAM: I thought Les was going to pop out of that door. That would have been more fun. Hi, I'm back. ARROYO: Had the cameras of "Big Brother" been in the CBS hallways we might have really had a show on our hands. INGRAHAM: It was the finale. ARROYO: That was the finale of that for the season. But other women at CBS from days past are now coming forward, like Linda Bloodworth Thomason who was responsible for "Designing Women." She has a harrowing account where she says he ended her career and killed many shows with women in the lead. She wrote one thing in "The Hollywood Reporter," this is kind of terrifying, of a major actress. She said "Coming off the cancellation of her iconic detective show, the star began pitching a new one. He informed her that she was too old to be on the network. He began to cry and stood up to go. He stood up, took her by the shoulders, telling her, I can't get you leave like this. She reacted, suddenly touched, then he shoved his tongue down her throat. I know this happened because the star is the person who told me." It is believed that that star is probably Angela Lansbury who was getting 40 million viewers a week when her show was cancelled. INGRAHAM: Linda Bloodworth Thomason, good friends of the Clintons, remember. ARROYO: Now "Designing Women" is coming back, so is "Murphy Brown." But there's one reboot that I can promise you Les Moonves will not want to see again. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (MUSIC) (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: I think it will be "Murder She Does" if Lansbury comes back, and it will be Les Moonves on the other end of that one. So you won't be seeing that reboot. INGRAHAM: Julie Chen Moonves. ARROYO: Julie Chen Moonves. INGRAHAM: Thanks, Raymond. And just when we think we have heard it all, Maxine Waters comes out with a new charge against the Trump administration. It may make your head explode, just in time for the weekend. Stay there. INGRAHAM: By now you might have thought that Maxine Waters tank of insults against President Trump has run empty. But check out her latest diatribe from a Congressional Black Caucus Foundation event. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS, (D) CALIFORNIA: In these United States with a president the likes of Donald Trump, I've never seen it in my life. I think he's the most deplorable, the most despicable human being I've ever encountered. I believe there has been collusion, and I'm just waiting on Mueller and our special counsel to get those documents. (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining us now with reaction is Horace Cooper, cofounder of Project 21, along with civil rights attorney Leo Terrell. Horace, let's start with you. Maxine Waters is the toast of the town. If you are someone who wants to impeach Trump and you're anti-Trump, Maxine Waters is kind of -- she is what Ruth Bader Ginsburg is to the Supreme Court. She has the cool factor right now. But what is this latest rant? HORACE COOPER, COFOUNDER, PROJECT 21: It demonstrates everybody's time in the sun ultimately results in them looking foolish. Her trivializing chattel slavery from the 18th and 19th century and comparing it to what happens when people come to this country illegally is unbelievably over the top, unnecessarily overheated rhetoric. And it's painful to hear her say something like this and not be condemned by others. INGRAHAM: Leo, so you know what we are talking about here. This is the actual quote of what Maxine Waters said. She said "I know it's right to fight against separation of mothers and fathers and families because of what happened to us in slavery. They sold us at the auction block. They sent the father to one plantation, they sent the children to other plantations. They separated us." So Leo is detaining illegal aliens akin to slavery now? That's where we are? LEO TERRELL, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: I think it's an excellent analogy, and I will tell you one thing. When illegal aliens come to this country, some are coming for asylum seeking help. And what you are ignoring and what Horace is ignoring and is trivializing, what's happening. Separation of families that took place in slavery is taking place right now. The whole world condemned Trump in separating these families right now. Let me finish. In both of these issues, in both of these issues you're talking about victims without any type of recourse or redress. I think it's an excellent analysis and it magnifies the horrible situation. One last point, Ivanka and Melania felt the same way about Trump separating these families. It's horrific. Its' horrific. INGRAHAM: That's fine. And I think a lot of people didn't like that at all. But it's a different question. And I'm trying to examine this dispassionately, really, because everybody knows where I stand on immigration. Do criminals get separated from their children? TERRELL: All the time. INGRAHAM: Every day of the week, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, people from all different walks of life. If you commit a crime, sometimes you commit a crime it's not a felony, maybe it's a serious misdemeanor. But if you can't put up the bail, you actually do time. And if you do time and have you kids, you are not with the kids because the kids can't be jailed with you nor should they be. So the idea that that is somehow slavery when we didn't bring them to the United States -- bringing someone unlawfully to your country to use them for labor, that is hideous and that is human subjugation. To have penalties for people who violate our laws, I don't see how that is in this case akin to slavery, one of the worse sins in human history. TERRELL: Respectfully, Laura, you just glossed over every illegal alien that comes in the country. And I think you know, respectfully, they come here for a different reason. INGRAHAM: We don't know. That's not what the law says. The law does not say if you come here and you have three children, and you want to get job in L.A., then it's OK. That's not what the law says. If the law said that, then I would agree with you. Horace, I don't want to short change you here, but on this issue, I think Maxine Waters, as popular as she is among some on the left, I think there a lot of regular folks say I didn't like that policy, maybe, I felt terrible for those children. But that's -- I don't know, that's just taking it way too far. COOPER: Absolutely. And by the way, for folks who use the race card for every single option to now turn around and say it can be just as casually used for people who come to this country and, by the way, a few of them do come for asylum. But the overwhelming majority come here voluntarily to work. They seek to engage in labor, and they do so unlawfully. For those people to be treated the same as someone grabbed, kidnapped, put on a ship, and brought here and forced to work over their own will, this whole country, we fought a civil war over this. That's how serious that wars. This trivial, it trivializes that. INGRAHAM: Leo? TERRELL: I think Maxine Waters has the credibility to make this analogy. And more important, thank you for acknowledging some of these illegals who come over here for asylum. Also they are forced to come over here. They're exploited. So let's be very clear, every illegal alien that comes -- (LAUGHTER) TERRELL: They're exploited. You can laugh all you want, but they're exploited. You know that for a fact. COOPER: Then don't come. TERRELL: It's horrific. INGRAHAM: Exploited, by whom are they exploited? The drug cartels or the human traffickers or the employers here who want to seek to keep wages low? They are exploited, I agree with you. But that's not slavery. You made a candidate to violate another country's sovereignty by crossing our border, and whatever country you go to and do that, there are going to be penalties, are there not, Leo? TERRELL: What crimes did the children commit, Laura and Horace? What crimes did the children commit? INGRAHAM: We're not talking about the children. COOPER: Let's just admit it was over the top and she shouldn't have said it. Let's just a say it, admit that. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, thank you so much. TERRELL: I will tell you right now I think it's a great position. INGRAHAM: OK, well, thanks so much, guys. Speaking of fearmongers, Barack Obama hit the trail this week again to hit Trump. But what he is claiming about Trump in U.S. history doesn't really add up. Shocking. Reagan biographer and historian Craig Shirley will be here next to tell us why. INGRAHAM: The Barack Obama comeback tour made its latest stop in Cleveland yesterday. And the former president let loose with some fan-favorite rips. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: People are stressed and they are anxious, and it seems as if all the chatter and anger on television doesn't match up with their lives, and it frays our civic trust, and it make people feel the game is rigged, that nobody is looking out for them. And historically, in those kinds of conditions, that's ripe for opportunists who try to exploit America's history and division, racial, ethnic, religious. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, we're back. I wonder who is he talking about? But presidential historian and Ronald Reagan biographer Craig Shirley says Obama has it all wrong. He joins us now. Craig, great to see you. How are you? Obama says this is -- they are scaring people out there, and it's par for the course. They are opportunists. CRAIG SHIRLEY, REAGAN BIOGRAPHER: He needs to study history. We've been stressed out many, many times in our 230 years. We're less stressed out now than we have been since the cold war, the Great Depression, the Civil War, the American Revolution. We have been stressed out many, many times. Now with the defeat of ISIS and a growing economy I'd way we're less stressed out now than we have been in our history, at least since the 1950s. INGRAHAM: He made another point in this speech that I want to play about what a healthy democracy, in other words, a democracy -- represented democracy represented Trump is not healthy. But in a healthy democracy he said this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: In a healthy democracy where everybody is participating and paying attention and listening and voting, people of goodwill in both parties, they call out the bigots and the fearmongers. When there is a vacuum in our democracy, when we don't vote, when we take our basic rights for granted, other voices fill the void. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Craig? SHIRLEY: It's meaningless. It's nothing. What is a healthy democracy? I have never heard of an unhealthy democracy. First of all, we're not a democracy. We are a republic. He needs to get that straight. But listening to him speak and listening to what he had to say is just without meaning. It's just vapid. INGRAHAM: So more people should vote. He says, when you are participating and paying attention and listening, in other words, the people who elected Trump were not paying attention, were not listening. He kind of throws in people of goodwill in both parties. Again, it's a different way of saying deplorables, is it not? SHIRLEY: Yes, exactly. But the fact is that a nonvote is a vote. People choose not to vote is, in fact, a vote. Voters should not be compulsory -- INGRAHAM: How do you mean that? Explain that? SHIRLEY: They've decided that they don't have a stake in the system, or they are happy with the way things are, or for whatever reason is that they make an active decision not to go vote. INGRAHAM: So the idea that everybody is throwing out the vote, or it doesn't count. It is a free will. This is not Saddam Hussein, 99 percent of the people voted. SHIRLEY: But he is attacking the essence of conservatism which is free will. He arguing for compulsory TV watching, compulsory newspaper reading, compulsory voting? What is he talking about? INGRAHAM: Just for fun. This is a golden oldy, the smart guy about history. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: It is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 months we have traveled to every corner of the United States. I have now been 57 states -- Pilots and air crews around the world, Navy corpsmen on the ground in Afghanistan. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing. (END VIDEO CLIP) (LAUGHTER) SHIRLEY: Those are funny. But the funny thing is that he didn't make that mistake once on corpsmen. He did it repeatedly. Nobody went to him, Mr. President, it's corpsman. INGRAHAM: Again, he is the brilliant one. Trump is just fumbling along. OK, Craig, thank you so much for joining us tonight. Up next, the last bite. INGRAHAM: Time now for the last bite. Take a look at this beaut. This was on the New Jersey transit earlier today. OK, the guy is shaving. And I mean shaving with shaving cream. They just need to bring a plastic bag or a bottle and just go to the bathroom there while they're sitting there, too. This is ridiculous. Oh, my gosh. Everybody in the storm's path, please stay safe. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team. Load-Date: September 15, 2018 End of Document Hurricane Florence Battering the East Coast; Dems and Media Politicize Hurricane Florence; Breaking Strzok-Page Developments; Hurricane Florence Now Being Felt by Millions of Carolinians, Category Was Downgraded to Two But the Rain and Flooding Will Linger for Days Plus Accompanied by Darkness by Tens of Thousands of Power Consumers; New Text Messages from Embattled FBI Officials Lisa Page and Her Lover, Peter Strzok Have Now Emerged Which Contain Information about Their Involvement in the Leaking of the Dossier; Senator Dianne Feinstein Made a Desperate Attempt to Try to Derail Judge Brett Kavanaugh's Confirmation Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 13, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8358 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Leland Vittert, Steve Harrigan; Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Rick Leventhal, Kristin Fisher, Rick Reichmuth Guests: Joe DiGenova, David Limbaugh, Joe Bastardi, Dan Bongino, Mark Penn Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: By the way, are you and Avenatti going out to dinner? TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: I don't know who that is. I haven't heard -- oh, yes, creepy porn lawyer. Yes, no, I don't think we are. HANNITY: Looks like you guys going out for drinks, out to dinner. All right, Tucker, great show. Thanks for being -- CARLSON: Thank you. Thank you, Sean. HANNITY: Thanks for being with us. Welcome to HANNITY. North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, bracing for major impact. Hurricane Florence now just a few miles off the coast, and it is already wreaking havoc on some of America's beautiful coastline communities. Now, we're going to have live hurricane coverage throughout the hour on the ground as this massive, slow-moving storm now makes its way towards land. And meanwhile, Democrats and their friends on the left -- well, they are about to let the national disaster be publicized. Never let anything go to waste, Rahm Emanuel once said. Some are actually blaming President Trump, if you can believe it, for causing the hurricane while others are already limiting the failure of his response. It hasn't hit yet. We're going to show you all the low lights. And once again, we have brand-new communications just breaking tonight, more Strzok-Page text had been discovered and emails. Now, we'll show you those email and how some top officials were mishandling sensitive information. It's bigger than we thought. And a new link has been discovered between Lisa Page and the Clintons. It keeps getting worse and worse. The deep state exposure now hits critical mass. Plus be warned, Senate Democrats as we told you, they're going to try and bork Judge Kavanaugh. We're going to show you Senator Dianne Feinstein's Hail Mary attempt to block his confirmation. It's not going to work. Now, while important updates from the midterm elections. All right. Sit tight, buckle up, our prayers are with North and South Carolina, Virginia, everywhere in between, in Georgia. We start with tonight's breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Hurricane Florence will soon make landfall on the southeastern coast of the United States. We'll go to our reporters in just a minute. Thousands of U.S. National Guard members, they are standing by. FEMA is on full alert. We have stockpiles of emergency resources. We have food, water, supplies, cots, blankets, baby formula, where it's all been preposition to help the people that are victims of the storm. Virginia, North and South Carolina, Georgia, all currently operating under a state of emergency. Mandatory evacuations have now been in place for days. This is a serious looming national disaster. Sadly, we have people in this country, on the left -- well, they are trying to make the storm a political issue, if you can believe that. Some literally blaming President Trump for the extreme weather. Like he had control over a hurricane. The editorial board over at "The Washington Post" literally claiming that Trump is complicit in causing the hurricane. You can't make this up, because of his, quote, efforts to dismantle environmental protection that cause the hurricane. So, we get this straight -- the left won't give President Trump credit for the booming economy while moving towards energy independence or the progress with North Korea, and no missiles being fired over Japan or the victory over ISIS, or tax cuts or so much more. But somehow they want you to believe that he is responsible for Mother Nature. And, by the way, in less than two years of office, he has become that all mighty and powerful that he can collude with god in this case and creates massive hurricanes. It's beyond sick and beyond ugly and twisted. Now, this derangement syndrome, the state of psychosis is now reaching heights of what is borderline insanity. It's not just the abusively biased "Washington Post" either trying to politicize this Hurricane Florence. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: President Trump says FEMA is ready for Hurricane Florence, but mounting evidence suggests that it could be incredibly difficult to deal with this disaster if climate change deniers are on the front line of emergency response. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The $10 million that they have taken out of the FEMA budget and reallocated to ICE for detention facilities right before the hurricane season, those questions are being asked right now in the appropriations committee UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think you are elevating Trump to evil, where as having raised three kids, I just think he is a giant toddler with no real connection to reality and no sense of empathy or responsibility. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He came across as almost lethal and excited about the hurricane and how big it was and how tremendously wet it's going to be and all of these absurd things that came out of his mouth. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But according to two Harvard scientists, Trump's environmental policies could lead to an additional 80,000 unnecessary deaths every decade. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is so consumed by the calamity that exists and the chaos that exist that he is not really prepared and focused, because he spends every weekend golfing instead of preparing. (END VIDEO CLIPS) HANNITY: These people have lost their minds. We'll have more on that then a just a moment, but, first, we go live to Leland Vittert. He is standing by in North Carolina in the middle of all of this, and the winds have picked up considerably in just the last few minutes. Leland, thank you. What's going on there? It looks like you have to hold on to stand up? LELAND VITTERT, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: You really do, Sean, and we almost got blown over here. It gives you a sense of the power of this storm, it keeps increasing. And the people here who are either watching their homes and their communities on television or those who have decided to write it out just have a long, long way to go. So, Florence has slowed down now and it's just creeping along, where nearly when you are in an area like this that is the worst of the worst, it only lasts a couple of hours. This is going to be 24 hours of hurricane force winds that we are just now really feeling the real effects of. The rising tide is coming in, which is a terrible combination with the storm surge that will certainly destroy the dock and send these dock sessions into town to destroy everything and anything in the path. And you watch this rain come down, it is at some point going to be 40 inches of rain which equals feet of flooding. So, those who did not evacuate certainly have no chance to do so right now. Police and fire tell us that they just are not able to respond in these kinds of conditions, even for people in life-threatening situations at times. So, folks are out and on their own. Until the storm passes, and then the water starts to rise. All over North Carolina, but certainly along the beachfront and the waterfront, power has been out for hours now, and could be out for weeks to come as this water continues to come in, high tide continues to come in, and there hurricane force winds will only get stronger, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Leland, better be careful, this is where reporters put their lives on the line and bringing us the story live where it takes place. It's extremely dangerous, be careful, please here. Also joining us now, Steve Harrigan, he's also in North Carolina tonight as this storm now begins to kick in. Steve, what's happening from your vantage point? STEVE HARRIGAN, FOX NEWS SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: Sean, we have seen things get worse each and every hour, I'm starting to hear things break in the darkness. The electricity is out here. It's out for more than 100,000 people at least along the coast of North Carolina. That could go up to 3 million by the end of this. But it looks like some of the construction on the building opposite me is starting to blow off, we have seen the winds reached tropical storm force over the next couple of hours. We expect it to reach hurricane force, so things are going to get worse overnight. Now, first responders are ready, the Army is here. The National Guard is here. Swift boat rescue teams from 19 states here to volunteer and help people. Most of the people have listened, they have gotten out, they boarded up their houses, but for a few here, it could be a rough couple of days. They've closed down the bridge that goes mid-island to the mainland. There's no power, and it's getting worse and worse as these sheets of rain continued to come down. Sean, back to you. HANNITY: Steve Harrigan, be safe. We'll be checking in with Steve and Leland Vittert all throughout the show. Also coming up, WeatherBELL.com's Joe Bastardi, he's going to weigh in on some of the ridiculous claims that we showed you, and full hurricane coverage from the ground all throughout the show tonight. First, we do have breaking right now. We do have new information surrounding the deep state that we want to share with you. We'll keep up pictures of the storm as it continues to goes on. But we are now on day four of more damning revelations. New developments surrounding Lisa Page and Peter Strzok. Tonight, we have two new stories to bring you. The first, according to foxnews.com, we have new texts that are showing that Lisa Page may have once actually interned under former President Clinton. On January 19th, 2017, she texted her then boyfriend Peter Strzok, quote, needless to say, it was very different when interned there under Clinton. And, of course, after all the previously unearthed anti-Trump pro-Clinton text messages, should we really be surprised? This is just a cherry on top of a long record of what we know is political bias at the highest levels of the FBI, the DOJ. Also, we see director of national intelligence and the CIA as we told you last night. Our second news story tonight surrounding Page and Strzok may reveal potential wrongdoings again within the top ranks of the FBI. Tonight, Judicial Watch just received dozens of previously unseen documents from the DOJ, including email exchanges between the general counsel. Remember, he left a while back. James Baker, deputy director, Andrew McCabe, the grand jury convened looking into him, Strzok, Page, and others. Now, this newly found email chain referenced the sensitive data exchange program with European intel agencies. It was sent over an unsecured device email account, page even reference it, writing in all caps: and bleep given everything going on, why is redacted using a yahoo account for this. Actually, apparently, a Yahoo account from the redacted iPad, make him stop. Now, given all these developments all throughout the week, this is four nights in a row surrounding the rampant political leaking and bias and abuse of power, mishandling sensitive information. We should all demand a lot more. Finally, from the highest ranking government officials, those responsible for this deep state bureaucratic corruption need to be held accountable in a court of law. We also know this goes right into Robert Mueller's office vis-a-vis the relationship with Bruce Ohr, Christopher Steele, Andrew Weissmann. And, of course, Christopher Steele doesn't stand by his own dossier. But that did not stop him from trying to feed information, funnel it through Ohr to the special counsel's office and even wrote it down. And, by the way, today, the president tweeted: More text messages between former FBI employee Strzok and Page are a disaster and an embarrassment to the FBI and DOJ. They should never have happened. But we are learning more and more by the hour. Others were leaking like mad in order to get the president. We believe that to be the CIA, which we reveal last night. So, the question is, Jeff Sessions, are you paying attention? Rod Rosenstein, where are you in this case? By the way, Bob Mueller, are you concerned Steele was funneling information into your office? Information he himself didn't even stand by when he was involved in an interrogatory in a court of law in Great Britain? He said, I don't know if this is true. Is this acceptable behavior from the highest ranking members of our government? It is not. Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter will be here. They'll weigh in on the latest. We also have an update on Supreme Court nominee, Judge Brett Kavanaugh. This confirmation vote in the Senate has been delayed until next week. And now, after weeks and weeks of partisan attacks, frankly since the announcement of Judge Kavanaugh, every dirty political tactic from every Democrat in the Senate, now at the last minute, the last second, the final hour, Dianne Feinstein is throwing a Hail Mary pass, a last ditch effort to block Judge Kavanaugh's confirmation. And Feinstein released earlier today this cryptic statement, quote: I have received information from an individual concerning the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. That individual strongly requested confidentiality. The client to come forward or press the matter further, and I have honored that decision. I have referred the matter to the federal investigative authorities. And according to reports, that information supposedly surrounds some kind of alleged incident when Kavanaugh was in high school, 40 years ago. And two sources are telling FOX that Senator Feinstein has known about these decades old allegation since July. She has met with him, says that she had a chance to confront him publicly, and now, because nothing is stuck, now, she is beginning to throw this in at the final hour. She questioned Kavanaugh in private sessions. She questioned him in a public hearing. She said and did nothing. And now with his confirmation looking imminent, Feinstein is trying to pull out all the stops, all of those dirty political tactics. I warned you that this is what they would do, very predictable, same old playbook. Democrats always find a way to impugn the character and the standing of a Republican appointed nominee to the U.S. Supreme Court. It is so common, and now has its own turn, it's called borking, because of this is what they do in the case of Ronald Reagan's nominee, Judge Robert Bork. He was never confirmed to the U.S. Supreme Court in large part because of the lies, the fearmongering, from then, Mr. Character himself, Senator, well, drive the car off the bridge, leave the girl in the car Ted Chappaquiddick Kennedy. Remember this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. TED KENNEDY (D), MASSACHUSETTS: Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens doors and midnight raids, and school children could not be taught about evolution. Writers and artists would be censored at the whim of government. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Years later, borking was in full play during the confirmation hearings of now Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. 1991 was the year, Senate Democrats, they rolled out a former colleague, last minute, made sexual harassment allegations against him, this case of character assassination was so vicious, so nasty, Justice Thomas, well, infamously now called it a, quote, high-tech lynching. You may remember. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CLARENCE THOMAS, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE: This is a circus. It's a national disgrace. And from my standpoint as a black American, as far as I'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks, who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas. And it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured, by a committee of the U.S., U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, we are watching a last-ditch effort from Senator Dianne Feinstein. She wants to bork Judge Kavanaugh. Democrats made this process so partisan, so bitter, so nasty that even Supreme Court justice, liberal hero Ruth Bader Ginsburg has spoken out. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Compare the process that you went through with what is going on today in that process. RUTH BADER GINSBURG, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE: The way it was, was right. The way it is, is wrong. It has become a highly partisan show. I wish that I could wave a magic wand, and have it go back to the way -- the way it was. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: A highly partisan show. Her colleague Justice Clarence Thomas also criticizing the Democrats for their political shenanigans. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) THOMAS: Honorable, if we could use that word about more people who are in public life, people who actually ask the questions at confirmation hearings instead of Spartacus we use -- (LAUGHTER) (APPLAUSE) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Had to get that in there. Had to get that in there. THOMAS: Hey, look, 300. But in any rate -- (LAUGHTER) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: By the way, Clarence Thomas, I have had the honor of meeting him, is one of the best laughs ever. The Spartacus line was pretty good. Barring any successful borking from the Democrats, Kavanaugh should rightfully be confirmed and he will be. This all comes as the election season is now heating up, we're only 54 days away from the single most important midterm election of our lifetime, I have long been warning you, what is going to happen if the Democrats take back the House in November? They're going to rescind the Trump tax cuts. They're going to start impeachment proceedings. They want to keep Obamacare. They will block all originalist, constitutionalists to the court. They went activist on the court. They want open borders. They will eliminate ICE. They want all investigations into the deep state to come to an end. Democrats, will they will ramp up investigations into any and all things, Trump, even shiftless Schiff said yesterday that he'll go full bar on investigations into money laundering allegations against Trump. I've said it a million times, I'll say it again, the Democrats -- they want to stop this administration from being successful. In other words, helping you, the American people. How do you serve the American people by involving yourself and investigation? What do the Democrats offering that will help the forgotten men and women in this country? They want to stop this success, the economic success and progress that we have? They want to it in its tracks? Look closely, if you are in one of these states, you will decide the future of the United States Senate. Take a very, very close look at that map. Every one of those states is important. And by the way, if you are in one of these House races, take a look. We will scroll on your screen, you will decide whether or not, yes, Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters take control of your future in the House. Now, you get to decide. You have the power, whether or not the president, they will impeach him. They will raise your taxes. They want open borders. They want to keep Obamacare. All of that is true. They are even saying most of it. Except the impeachment part, they're telling Maxine, shh, don't say it. But if the election were held today, I don't think anyone could predict with any certainty Republicans maintain control of the House of Representatives. They better come up with a very strong set of principles. They all need to sign it and they all need to campaign on it. It's pretty scary reality, and only you have the power in the end to stop it from happening. That is Nancy Pelosi and company. Here now with reaction to the latest on deep state developments, the author of "The New York Times" best seller, "The Russian Hoax", FOX News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett, also investigative reporter and contributor Sara Carter. Sara, let's start with this new Strzok-Page text. If you look at it now, it's four days in a row, we revealed a lot. We've got the new developments today. Let's get into what you think is I think now it's going to be a disaster for the FBI, for the Department of Justice, even the CIA. They were exposed yesterday, and the intelligence community in general. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Sean, this is more than circumstantial evidence. I mean, every day, we are getting more and more text messages. This is in their own writing. This isn't reports that people are writing about them. This is them telling each other, we are leaking information to "The Washington Post," we have talked with "The New York Times." This is about FISA warrants. To this is the secret warrant that the FBI obtained to spy on an American citizen Carter Page. These are serious, serious allegations right now. They need to be investigated by the by the Department of Justice, and the new information that has just been discovered by the Judicial Watch, because of constant lawsuits and pushing for these documents is incredible, because for a while, I have been reporting on sources within the FBI, within law enforcement, saying that they have been using these devices, their cell phones, sending emails by Yahoo, by Gmail account with sensitive information. There are spies in the United States, Sean. There are people, I speak to people in the intelligence community all the time, and they are trying to collect information. And what they look for his unsecured servers, unsecured emails, unsecured devices in order to collect that information. And what we see here is that it's actually happened. HANNITY: All right. Let's talk about with you, Gregg Jarrett. I think it's been a disaster of a week for the FBI, the CIA, and the DOJ. So, I guess the question now is, you know, what happens from here? Because we expect next week, we might get those unredacted FISA warrants, 302s, the gang of eight information, the totality of Trump -- I'm sorry, of Strzok and Page communications and McCabe, now others, Baker, others getting back into the mix. And what about the FBI using unsecured devices with classified information? We start where we began, with Hillary. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Oh, absolutely. I mean, the FBI ought to prosecute itself for doing the exact same thing that Hillary Clinton did, and that is putting sensitive information on an unsecured device that jeopardizes national security. But look at what has happened this week. Now we know for sure that not only was the Trump-Russia collusion in case a hoax, based on fabricated evidence, but Comey's FBI and Obama's Department of Justice were leaking this false information to a complicit media to frame Donald Trump. And these text messages prove it. They were gleeful, congratulating each other on leaking this false evidence to the media. One of the -- the most important one is this one. The article is out! Well done, Page. That's a text from Peter Strzok. So, you know, here they are, basically and writing, admitting that what they are doing is a crime, a variety of different crimes. HANNITY: All right. Let's give Sara the last word tonight, and we're going to get back to obviously our hurricane coverage. CARTER: Yes, certainly, concerned about all the people in the hurricane path, Sean. But I think this is it. We need someone to investigate this. We need the Department of Justice to do its job. This is going on too long, and by next week, I believe we'll have all the documents that have been promised. Those are the FISA documents, the "Gang of Eight" dossier as well Bruce Ohr's 302 interviews. HANNITY: Are we getting it Monday? CARTER: I'm hoping we'll get it Monday. HANNITY: The president needs to unredact and declassify and I would -- yes? CARTER: Absolutely -- the president absolutely should unredact and declassify these documents so that the country can move forward. And hopefully, John Huber who has been charged with this by Attorney General Jeff Sessions is actually doing his job, because that's his job, to investigate this. And that was what was promised by Jeff Sessions. HANNITY: Where's Spartacus when we need him? Because we could use Spartacus Cory Booker on this. JARRETT: The John Huber investigation I'm convinced is nothing more than window dressing. It is not a legitimate investigation, it was all conjured by Rod Rosenstein to continue to obstruct and hide his own corrupt actions. CARTER: Let's hold them accountable. HANNITY: We'll find out of these things come out next week. Gregg, Sara, thank you. As we get back to our hurricane coverage tonight, you're looking at a picture by the way of President Trump, Vice President Pence, other senior staff attending a meeting with national security, as critical stages of FEMA's 24/7 operation are now underway completely. We now go to Steve Harrigan. He's on the ground. He is in North -- Topsail -- he's in North Carolina with the latest on Hurricane Florence. Looks like it's getting rough there for you, but not quite as rough as before. HARRIGAN: Sean, the rain has not stopped for hours. It is coming in through the sheets right ask you, moving sideways. The wind has gust where it's starting to break things, you can hear the branches snapped, and (INAUDIBLE) house off to my left, you can see broken up. The real concern, though, is this water. We could see 40 inches of rain in some places. They're describing it as possible total inundation in parts of North Carolina. The first responders are in place. Most of the people on the island are gone. It's really pitch black. We have lost electricity here. More than 3 million people could lose electricity before this is over. But there are swift boat rescue teams. They're going to be out tonight, because anyone who is trying to ride this out, is going to be a very difficult night here. We could expect hurricane force winds in the next hour or so, but already, we are starting to see some things break in the night -- Sean. HANNITY: By the way, Steve, we've been through a few of these together, you are doing the heavy lifting in this. We're going to start calling you Hurricane Steve Harrigan. You've been in some rough storms that you have covered. This is only the early stages. What makes this one tougher is it is going to literally stay there for a good 24 hours with storm surging, and with heavy rains, maybe as many as 40 inches in some places. That's going to be rough. Do they expect a lot of flooding in the community? HARRIGAN: They really do. I think two things have impressed me, just how well the message has gotten out through the North Carolina officials. They have been really clear and blunt about how dangerous this form is, and the people -- usually you cover hurricanes, you see all kinds of, you know, people making light of it, hanging around and surfing. You didn't see that here. This place is a complete ghost town. So they have been very good as far as this goes. People have heeded the call, but it's tough to get out of here. It was tough today, we saw people packing up. And it's a huge stress on people, you know, especially older people. They've got to leave their house, they've got to worry about gas, flight cancellations, and is there going to be enough water, and they're leaving their homes behind. A lot of these people do not know whether their homes will be here when they get back. So, there is sort of a double worry on the people who are going through this, even those who have left. And you have to go far to get away from this flooding. HANNITY: All right. Steve Harrigan, hurricane Harrigan on the ground. And he'll be up many, many hours from now. Thank you, Steve. Joining us now in Morehead City, North Carolina, Leland Vittert who's been having a hard time standing up straight. The wind has picked up considerably. VITTERT: Yes, exactly, to the point where we are starting to hang onto things as we are out here. At some point, we're going to have to move back up to the balcony for shelter, but since we last talked, you can start to see this dock continuing to rise and rise with the rising tide. To Steve's point about people heeding the warnings, one of the things that the police and fire department had said over and over again is that once it gets bad, they are not coming to get you if you are in trouble, and it is getting to that point where the police and fire department say that they cannot come help people. So people who thought, I can ride this one out, if they saw it go down from a category 4 to category 2, and now, maybe having second thoughts, really don't have any other options than to hunker down, and there were a number of people that Steve met and I met, of course, who are making those decisions out here. And now, they're having the shingles rip off of their roofs. They're obviously having a lot of other damage to their homes. And we're just in the very beginnings of this, you know, it would be one thing to watch this on television and realize that your house was going through this for a couple of hours, not to realize it is going through it for a couple of days, or a day at least of Florence sitting here and just spinning with these hurricane force winds. The other part of this is, is that it's at least two tide cycles that you will go through, so often times, you are lucky in the storms, the storm surge hits at low tide. You don't get that luck here. And because of the way that the barrier islands of North Carolina are set up, they're normally acting as a shield, if you will, or protector from these storms as they come in. Instead, they're acting essentially as a funnel, and funneling all of those storm surge, not only up here to something like Morehead, but further up the rivers, in communities that do not see this kind of rain, or this kind of flooding, which will have catastrophic effects. They talk about complete inundation, that's where we're going to have rescues going on potentially now for days once the storm ends, Sean. HANNITY: All right, Leland. He'll be up also hours on end with coverage, especially because the storm is going to literally slow down, locked down there for a considerable period of time. Leland, be safe. We'll be checking in with you throughout the night. Joining us now from Wrightsville Beach, North Carolina, Rick Leventhal is standing by. Rick, not your first rodeo either. RICK LEVENTHAL, FOX NEWS SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: And, Sean -- no, definitely not. This storm is much slower than others we have seen in the past years, so it's taking a long time to get here to Wrightsville Beach. I know other parts of the Carolina coast just further out east into the Atlantic, this one is a little a closer west, and we are not seeing it. It's not that bad here yet. We are getting some pretty significant gusts, but we're really not seeing awful weather just yet, Sean. And as you can probably tell, the lights are still on here in Wrightsville Beach. There are over 100,000 customers across North Carolina now in the dark, according to Duke Energy. But here in Wrightsville Beach at least, they still got power. But there aren't a lot of people here to use it. The mandatory evacuation order was very effective. Police tell me just a handful of residents decided to stick this one out. The only people we've really seen out on the streets tonight, Sean, are police officers, beach patrol and the fire department. And the fire department brought their heavy trucks back over to the mainland side, because they don't want to put their trucks add to risk when the storm surges come. The ocean is just over a dune down there. You won't be able to see it, but we're expecting that it may come and meet us here in this neighborhood. We're going to try to find higher ground before that happens, because they are talking about a seven to 11-foot storm surge here in Wrightsville Beach and that will put a lot of these structures in deep water, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Rick, be careful, we'll be watching you throughout the night into the morning, and you deserve a big steak dinner on Fox when you get back. Thanks to your great coverage. LEVENTHAL: I'll see you. HANNITY: Well, more hurricane Florence coverage throughout the hour. But first, also tonight we're following two other major stories out of Washington today. Fox News has obtained text messages from Lisa Page, it reveals that she actually interned under Clinton. It sounds like Jeannie Rhee who works for Mueller while she worked for the Clinton Foundation. Also Senator Dianne Feinstein made a desperate attempt to try last minute to derail Judge Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation. Here from Washington with the very latest is our own Kristin Fisher. Kristin. KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Sean, Republicans say that this is nothing more than an 11th hour character assassination. The Democrats, they are not entirely sure what they have. But they were referred to it to federal investigators. All we know for sure -- all we know for sure about these claims is that Senator Dianne Feinstein says that she received information from someone who, quote, "strongly suggested confidentiality, decline to come forward or press the matter further and I have honored that decision. I have however, referred the matter to federal investigative authorities." The issue is so secret that even other Democrats on the judiciary committee don't to know what it is. Really our only clue comes from the New York Times. Now Fox cannot confirm this, but the Times is reporting that the matters related to possible sexual misconduct including Kavanaugh and a woman years ago, back when they were both in high school. Senate majority whip John Cornyn puts it like this, quote, "Let me get this straight, this is a statement about a secret letter regarding a secret matter of an unidentified person, right." The White House is also defending Kavanaugh at the same time that President Trump is attacking two of his favorite targets. Quote "More text messages before former FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page are a disaster and an embarrassment to the FBI and DOJ, they should never have happened. But we are learning more and more by the hour." And one of the things we learned from the new text is what you were saying earlier, Sean. And it is that Lisa Page says that she was an intern at the White House under former President Bill Clinton. Sean? HANNITY: All right. Kristin Fisher in Washington tonight, thank you for that report. Here now with reaction, is former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Joe DiGenova. Also the author of a new book, it comes out I believe next week or the week after, "Jesus is Risen: Paul and the Early Church." It's out -- I'm sorry October 2nd, available for preorder on Amazon.com, Barnesandnoble.com, and tomorrow Hannity.com. Our friend, David Limbaugh. By the way, both have done legal work for me because I'm in such legal trouble just about every other day of my life. It seems like I have every lawyer, but I've had dinner with both of them. Let's start with you, Joe, and these developments, and I also want you to focus a little bit on we do know a grand jury is in the panel. We don't know what's going on there. We don't know what are in the unredacted pages, the 10 to 12, 17 to 34, we don't what's in the 302s. Everybody that I know that know something or says they do say it's blockbuster. JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY, COLUMBIA: Well, here's what we do now. We do know from the text revealed by Strzok and Page yesterday that we now are at a different place. The walls are closing in, but they are not closing in on the president. They are closing in on the FBI and the Department of Justice under President Obama. Those text messages by Strzok and Page, which reveal an illegal media strategy to illegally and criminally released FISA warrant information and name a U.S. citizen, whose information they gave to the New York Times is a criminal offense. And by mentioning Carter Page, they have now created massive civil liability for everybody involved in revealing Carter Page's name. Including themselves, James Baker, the former FBI general, general counsel Pry Stef (Ph), everybody in the chain of command, in addition the reporters for the New York Times have no privileges now. They also can be sued by Carter Page. Because, although they may have been legally able to accept the information, by publishing it, they reveal classified information that smeared Carter Page. Mr. Page is going to be a very wealthy man. HANNITY: I kind of agree with you actually by the end of all of this. With the McCabe we know that the grand jury has been seated. We know that they're looking at the lying issues involving McCabe. DIGENOVA: That's true. HANNITY: And I have different sources that are telling me, also they are looking into the FISA abuse issues. DIGENOVA: They are. HANNITY: And if-- DIGENOVA: There are. HANNITY: Go ahead. DIGENOVA: They are. The problem is we do not know whether it's Huber or the national security division at the Justice Department. The best information is that it is the national security division at the Justice Department. They are looking at-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But if that's true wouldn't that mean that everybody that signed off on those FISA warrants, in other words they committed fraud on the FISA courts that omitted-- DIGENOVA: Yes. HANNITY: -- the important information purposefully? DIGENOVA: Yes, and yes. And that is why, and I mentioned this the other night, if you go back and look at Rod Rosenstein's testimony, he answered a question in a very strange way. He said, I am relieved that I have been relieved of responsibilities involving that area. That is FISA. The reason he has been relieved of those duties is that there is a criminal investigation as you just mentioned involving McCabe and Strzok and Baker, and nobody knows who is ultimately responsible for all of this. And so-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What about Page and Comey? DIGENOVA: There's no doubt. HANNITY: What about-- DIGENOVA: No, they are all involved, they are going down. You know, I know, and people don't like to hear this. James Comey, Strzok, McCabe, they are all going down on the FISA warrant stuff. That's just not even in question anymore. HANNITY: Let me get to David Limbaugh. David, I never thought in my life that -- and with everything that we have been breaking, these new text are a disaster. I mean, you literally have all of this criminality, fixing an investigation, using Russia information, disseminating lies before and after the election. Top DOJ, FBI, intelligence agency, CIA, all to help elect one candidate over another. You know, literally propagating false Russia information, feeding it, trying to feed it and funnel it through Bruce Ohr into Mueller's office. I can't believe that this has happened. But some of the people and agencies and institutions that I personally have grown up having the most respect for in my life. DAVID LIMBAUGH, AUTHOR AND ATTORNEY: Yes, is it any coincidence that Comey himself, leaked on purpose to start a special counsel investigation? And now we have two of his top lieutenants who were leaking, who were deliberately leaking in a deliberate media leak strategy. It is -- they were flourishing in a Comey leak culture. And can you imagine how ludicrous this is? That the FBI was investigating these people supposedly in the periphery of the Trump campaign for alleged collusion with Russia to interfere with the election, when they themselves were interfering with our election? HANNITY: All right. Joe, I have heard a little sinister laugh from Joe DiGenova when you mentioned Comey, why is that, Joe? DIGENOVA: He is going down. The dirty cop is going to go down. HANNITY: You have not been wrong yet. All right, thank you both. When we come back, more updates on hurricane Florence on this breaking busy news night. Thank you for being with us. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with the very latest update on the potentially catastrophic hurricane Florence, Fox News meteorologist, Rick Reichmuth. Rick has been at this all day, he'll be up all night. What's the latest? RICK REICHMUTH, FOX NEWS CHIEF METEOROLOGIST: Hi, Sean. Yes, a 107,000 people now without power already in North Carolina. I would say we're probably about 10 to 15 percent through with the storm, so a long ways to go, also really impressed. This is the center of the storm it's getting very close, it's about 75 miles to the east of Wilmington, that also means it's much closer here to Morehead City and to some of these beaches a little farther towards the north. We have some spots that have already seen over eight inches of rain right here, and we probably have about another 36 hours of rain before we're done in that here in this area of North Carolina before it moves off towards the east. The center of the storm is looking like it's may be beginning to make this little southwesterly turn, and that is going to make a big difference based off of exactly what happens as you move southwest on the coast here. I want to show you this, a 112-mile-an-hour wind on the buoy out here on the ocean. Eighty-one miles an hour they are. I'm really concerned about that white that you are seeing that's sits around the New Bern area, that's potentially winds over 100 miles an hour. And we've got a lot of surge, especially in these inlets right around the Pamlico River, up and towards New Bern, we're going to be watching incredible flooding there and the flooding that comes in is not going to go anywhere for a couple of days. Here's the track, it continues to move very, very slowly. By Sunday into Monday, Sean, moves a little bit more quickly by Tuesday it's pretty much out of here. But we got probably 36 hours ahead of hurricane and tropical storm force winds for the same area. It's going to be a rough one. HANNITY: All right. Rick Reichmuth, we'll be watching all night. Thank you. Joining us now with more reaction, the chief meteorologist over at Weatherbell.com, author of "The Climate Chronicles: Inconvenient Revelations You Won't Hear from Al Gore and Others" Joe Bastardi is with us. Joe, is whether or not, longtime friend of mine of mine. And by that, it's not -- it's a compliment, you, your dad, and your son, you've been storm chaser your whole life, you can give the history of every hurricane. You pinpointed the direction of this from day one, now it's going to make that southwesterly turn that you have been telling me about, I guess from Wilmington down to what, Myrtle Beach? JOE BASTARDI, CHIEF FORECASTER, WEATHERBELL.COM: Yes, that's a big problem. First of all, the FEMA responders and the president has been leading great -- I tell you, I was fired up to go out there myself the other day. And these people who are the first line of defense when the weather declares war on the country, which is what is going on now. And by the way, it's a lot less frequent than it used to be in the '30s, '40s, and '50s with hurricanes. You just have to tip your hats then. And you can't do anything to change nature, but you certainly can try to mitigate things. Now here's the big forecast problem, the big forecast headache. Remember Irma when we were talking, Sean, the day before Irma about the southwest move into Cuba would weaken the storm, right? Well, there is one computer model receive to hit this quite often. And that is the European generated model. It is been insisting that after it reaches Cape Fear tomorrow morning, turn southwestward and then making a second landfall near Georgetown, South Carolina. Cat Island. Now what that would mean is probably an extra 5 to 10 billion of damage. Why is that? Well, the storm moves to the east of Myrtle Beach, instead of coming up the coast, it's moving southwestward, Myrtle Beach is wind goes from northwest to north to northeast to east, and there, it won't get direct as bad as what you are seeing, Cape look out-- (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Let me ask-- BASTARDI: --but they will have 24 to 36 hours of hurricane conditions and severe flooding there. So, that is the next target once we get through with what is going on now which won't be until later. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me ask you this. You know, you look at the Washington Post, they say that Trump is complicit when it comes to extreme weather, Trump is complicit. He plays down humans role, et cetera, et cetera. You have been -- you know, everyone says that science is irrefutable. And science is in it. Everybody agrees. Did Donald Trump cause the storm? BASTARDI: No, Donald Trump didn't cause the storm? Of course, not. Did he cause the seven major hurricanes that hit in the 1950s along the eastern seaboard? If you had decades like the '30s, the '40s, the '50s, people would think that the apocalypse is coming. I wrote about this in my book. They are weaponizing weather, politicizing weather and they are doing it because of-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You mean, we used to have more hurricanes now than in past decades? BASTARDI: Well, the amount of hurricanes, the last 50 years from Florida to New England is 37 percent of what it was in previous 50 years, so if there is climate change going on, it's actually decreasing the amount of major hits. HANNITY: All right, Joe. BASTARDI: Look, this is dragging the weather and climate into the mud, I don't like it, but we have to live with it. The biggest thing is to get the forecast right, because if you do that, people will listen to you. HANNITY: And lives can be saved, that's the important part of your science. BASTARDI: Yes. HANNITY: And what you do. BASTARDI: That's the important part. HANNITY: All right. We continue to monitor hurricane Florence, we'll also get reaction to today's breaking news, Dan Bongino and Mark Penn are next. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Here with more reaction to tonight's breaking news, the author of "Spygate: The Attempted Sabotage of Donald J. Trump," former Secret Service agent NRA TV contributor, Dan Bongino, former Clinton pollster Mark Penn. You talk about sabotage, Dan Bongino, now we know there was. That you have sadly high ranking people, the DOJ, FBI, CIA, all leaking to stop him from becoming president, and then after he becomes president, to destroy him. DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Yes, Sean, this was a very sophisticated information laundering operation that had two main prong. Prong number one was the Bruce Ohr DOJ channel, to flush the dossier information to the DOJ. The second prong was using media sources to feed that information to then feed that information back into the court systems to make it appear that it had basically come up in multiple sources. It is very sophisticated, but very devious at the same time. HANNITY: Sad too. I mean, you know, you work for the Secret Service, you respect law enforcement as much as I do, I know Mark Penn does as well. And Mark, it seems to have been elaborate, sophisticated, using the powerful tools of intelligence, the most powerful people in the country in many ways, and they got caught. Where does this end? MARK PENN, FORMER CLINTON POLLSTER AND ADVISER: Well, look, these recent texts show that there is no question that massive leaking of top-secret, confidential, FISA court warrant was being given out to the press on a routine basis that they were holding cheering squads four. I think the inspector general says-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I think it is worse than that. The information they use to obtain the FISA warrants were, no offense, you work for Clinton, bought and paid for Russian lies that they disseminated the American people, to alter an election. And then of course, to destroy a sitting president. A duly elected president. PENN: But the question raise by this week, is why weren't Page and Strzok fired a long time ago for this kind of activity? Was i sanctioned? What was going on there that they were trying to get the elected president even before he was elected, and there were systematic leaks of top-secret information? After all the FISA court is supposed to be the secret of secret in this country. That's the whole point. HANNITY: Do you believe that this information is saying that Rod Rosenstein has been removed of his duties, Fan Bongino, as it relates to FISA? BONGINO: Yes, Sean, I think that's possible and I tell you why. Rod Rosenstein signed the fourth FISA warrant, why is that forth FISA critical? Because that warrant had been signed when after the interview of Papadopoulos and was sued, Sean, in other words, if the information was false and it was going to be signed off on by the time Rosenstein signed it on the fourth FISA, they would've undoubtedly known a lot of this information-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, I think they knew on FISA one. BONGINO: -- to Ohr was garbage. And he signed it that's why he is in trouble. HANNITY: It's all coming out. All right. Thank you both. When we come back, Leland Vittert, an update from North Carolina, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. The eye of hurricane Florence has not yet made landfall but North Carolina is getting pummeled already by rain, high winds. We go to Leland Vinnet -- Vitter -- sorry -- Leland Vittert. How can I do that when you're out there in the pouring rain and a hurricane? That's so unfair. He is in Morehead City, North Carolina. Leland? LELAND VITTERT, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: It's been a long day for all of us, Sean. You got a sense of why they are calling this the storm of a lifetime. I talked to the police chief here earlier, and he said, look, the first couple of hours are like any other storm that these conditions standing for so long, hours upon hours of hurricane-force winds, we're still a couple of hours from high tide. You can see the docs continuing to rise. Pretty soon those things are just going to be lifted up and then become sort of barges of destruction throughout this town. I talk to the marine down to Camp Lejeune, they don't have any power there. He said, all we got is flashlights and MREs. Anybody who stayed to ride out this storm is effectively on their own until it passes. And police and first responders can once again head back out. They've got a long couple of weeks ahead of them as the flooding begins. HANNITY: All right. Leland Vittert, stay safe in North Carolina. We'll have a continuing coverage of hurricane Florence all throughout the evening. Let not your heart be troubled. We're always fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. And Laura Ingraham is standing by to take it away. Load-Date: September 14, 2018 End of Document Rains, Flash Floods Expected when Hurricane Florence Slams U.S. East Coast; Google Executives Oppose Trump and Conspires Against the American People; Democrats Smear Campaign Against Brett Kavanaugh, Takes an Ugly Turn; Hurricane Florence Approaches Carolinas; Republicans that Criticize President Trump Profiled; Melania Trump Receives Less Magazine Cover Offers than Michelle Obama Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 13, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8083 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Leland Vittert, Rick Leventhal Guests: Michelle Malkin, China Okasi, Carrie Severino, Reince Priebus, Ari Fleischer, David Bossie, Rachel Campos-Duffy, Gretchen Von Helms Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Leland Vittert, stay safe in North Carolina. We'll have a continuing coverage of Hurricane Florence all throughout the evening. Let not your heart be troubled. We are always fair and balanced. We are not the destroy Trump media. And Laura Ingraham is standing by to take it away. A lot of news tonight, Laura. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX SHOW HOST: Hannity, I can't believe Leland is out there hanging on that light pole. It is more dangerous than being in the Golan Heights where he was. HANNITY: Yes. He used to be in the Jerusalem bureau. Look, we're going to call him hurricane Steve Harrigan. We had to come up with a name for Leland, but these guys really do a great job to put their lives on the line for us to give us a great coverage. INGRAHAM: Wow. Fantastic. And Hannity, great show tonight as always. HANNITY: Have a great show. INGRAHAM: All right, thanks so much. Good evening from Washington. I'm Laura Ingraham. Welcome to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. We have an immediate news alert. At this hour, Hurricane Florence is lashing the Carolinas. Hurricane force winds already being felt and are expected to worsen through the night. We have Fox News coverage all along the coast. But we begin tonight in North Topsail Beach, North Carolina where Fox News correspondent Steve Harrigan is really feeling the storm. Steve? STEVE HARRIGAN, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Laura, I've seen this bridge over the past few hours behind me just gradually disappear as the water comes up. If we do get an 11-foot storm surge as somehow predicted on parts of the coast, that water would go over this (inaudible) and go up the first floor mostly (inaudible). It is dark all along this island. People really heeded the call to get out. They have boarded up their houses with plywood and most of them left, either going far inland or north or south, trying to get away from this giant storm. The power is out here. We just lost electricity a few hours ago. Those are the camera lights on me now running on batteries. As many as three million people could lose power before this is over. Right now, the winds have picked up considerably over the last hour or two. We are seeing tropical storm force winds, but really, strong enough to try and cause some damage. We are hearing things snap and crack and move. It's hard with pitch darkness to see exactly what is being moved but the house to my left has lost some bits off its roof and some small branches as well. Because the wind is so severe, they've shut down the bridge that leads from this island back to the mainland. So, if you are someone who has decided to stay here, you are going to be here to have to ride it out. As far as rescues go, there are a lot of assets in place, they are swift boat teams from 19 different states. That is something we see over and over again in these massive storms. The real contribution from all across the U.S. not only officially, but people with their own boats, who I'm sure we are going to see in the days ahead carrying out water rescues because that is the long-term danger. The wind is going to be dramatic. It's going to get worse here over the next couple of hours. We are probably going to see 100 mile an hour sustained winds here but it is that rain that is going to cause inland flooding, that is going to be the real slower slob (ph) and the real danger for a lot of people across the state. Laura, back to you. INGRAHAM: All right Steve, we are watching you and everyone in the studio here is watching this with me. We are actually afraid for you. I mean, that deck that you are on or the steps, that is not going to be there in an hour or two. That is gone. I'm sorry. I think you got to -- I know you want to report but you got to get off that -- you got to get off the wooden walkway. That ain't going to be there for much longer. I know that beach very well by the way, and that is brutal. HARRIGAN: Yes. Well we've been kind of moving back a little bit along the way each way so, we're trying to keep moving back where we feel the need to, but we are trying to show you the drama of what is going on here at the same time. INGRAHAM: The drama, but we like you more. So Steve, please stay safe. We'll check back with you later on in the hour. That is unbelievable. For any of you who have been down in the outer banks or near North Topsail, that is an incredible sight. We're going to have live reports of course from the ground, from the coast, throughout the hour. We also expect authorities to brief us on the latest so do not go anywhere. You want not miss the latest on this monster storm. And we do want to get to some other important stories tonight, like the ugly smearing of Brett Kavanaugh and she should be ashamed of herself. Senator Dianne Feinstein -- I actually have a lot of respect for her. We don't agree on everything. I have a lot of respect for her as a woman and being out there in the Senate. But what she did today, we are going to tell you about this. We have breaking news on what this might do or not do to the Kavanaugh confirmation. So stay right there. Plus, we break down the media treatment of Michelle Obama versus Melania Trump. And this as Michelle Obama gets ready for her big stadium-sized book to her. You're going to want to stop by for that and not turn the dial for that, but it's another unbelievable story of bias. But first, global titans versus the American people. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Immediately following the election, Google executives gathered to share their feelings of dejection and despair. A video recently leaked to Breitbart reveals the mind-set of Google's leadership from within their corporate safe space. This is co-founder Sergey Brin. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SERGEY BRIN, CO-FOUNDER, GOOGLE: You know, let's face it, most people here are pretty upset and pretty sad because of the election. Anyway, on a more serious note, you know, myself, as an immigrant and a refugee, I certainly find this election deeply offensive and I know many of you do, too. And I think it's a very stressful time and it conflicts with many of our values. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Values? What are those Google values? After all this is a company that has actively worked with the Chinese communist regime for years. And right now, Google is developing an app to screen out content that the Chinese government considers too sensitive for its citizens. Translation, Google is helping China silence its political opposition. The Chinese government, let's remember, imprisons dissidents and Christians daily. They have more than a million Muslims in re-education camps, but the legitimate election of President Trump, somehow conflicts with Google's vaunted values? Give me a break. Today we learned that a senior Google research scientist named Jack Paulson was so disgusted by the company's collaboration with Chinese sensors that he has quit in protest. And I was thinking about this, you want to know the real reason that the Google execs were so exercised, so hurt by the election of Trump? Because he promised to hold Google's partner, China, accountable. To punish Chinese cheating on trade deals that hollowed out U.S. manufacturing. For Google and many other big manufacturers, the pre-Trump status quo was much easier. Keep that production overseas, lower wages, no regulation, no health care that you have to worry about for those employees over in China. And if it hurts America, so be it. After all, those blue-collar Americans will probably be Trump voters anyway. And of course, Google, they hate you deplorables. (BEGI VIDEO CLIP) KENT WALKER, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT, GOOGLE GLOBAL AFFAIRS: That fear, I think, not just in the United States, but around the world, is what is fueling concerns of xenophobia, hatred, and a desire for answers that may or may not be there. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Actually, Trump's found -- the answer are pretty easy. Two words, America first. Sure, Trump will work with the rest of the world. He's shown that, but on a much more level playing field. So why is Google so threatened by that? I'll tell you why. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WALKER: History teaches us that there are periods of populism, of nationalism that rise up and that is all the reason we need to be in the arena, that is why we have to work so hard to make sure it doesn't turn into a world war or something catastrophic, but instead, is a blip, as a hick up. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, you stop a world war with your search engine. That's ridiculous. Like a liberal elites that crossed politics, academia, and the entertainment industry, big tech doesn't really like the American voters who turned out for Trump. That is pretty obvious. Google thinks it knows better than their customers, after all, Google execs are richer than they are. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUTH PORAT, GOOGLE CFO: People are leaving, staff is crying, we are going to lose. That was the first moment I really felt like we were going to lose. Everybody, if you could turn around or go to the person next to you, and do a hug at work. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's worse than a sign of peace at mass. Sorry, I'm not a sign of peace person. [laughs] Hug, group hug. Trump won. Oh, my gosh. I needed comic relief today. That made me laugh more than anything else. But then huggy bear Ruth got down to business. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PORAT: Our values our strong, we will fight to protect them, and we will use the great strength and resources in which we have to continue to advance really important values. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Again, the word values. What values is Google talking about? Well, the left-wing globalist values that have helped enrich the oppressive Chinese regime at the expense of free expression and religious liberty, and of course, made Google execs really rich. Part of Google's disappointment was that their efforts in 2016 failed really spectacularly. Of course they claim that they are nonpartisan. But an e-mail leaked to my colleague Tucker Carlson show that the tech giant tried to turn out the Latino vote in 2016 because they were confident Latino voters would support Hillary. But can you imagine their surprise when they wake up on election morning after -- morning after election they see 29 percent of Latinos voting for Trump? They were gobsmacked. Google is not some local business practicing civic engagement, we should all stand up and cheer, oh, Google, go. Google is one of the most powerful companies on the planet. They are responsible for about 90 percent of all searches online, they are more than 1.2 trillion searches on Google each year, globally. More than 2 billion people use its android mobile platform. And they've made $110.8 billion in revenue last year alone. But when smaller companies, smaller companies like Chick-fil-A or Hobby Lobby or In-n-Out burger, when they move in the smallest of ways to support more traditional or even conservative causes, those companies are sued and vilified nonstop by the mainstream media. When I giant like Google pledges to actively undermine the political will of the American people, the media don't cover it. And you know why? Because the media agree with the Google agenda. This is one of my favorite moments from the Google anti-Trump corporate rally. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRIN: Last question, yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there anything positive you see from this election result? BRIN: Boy, that's a really tough one right now. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's actually not so tough. I love those beanies, by the way. I want one. I will get one for my kids. That's a tough one. Anything good that comes out of Trump`s election. Well, how is this to try on for size. The economy is booming. Fair trade deals are being negotiated, wages are rising and blue-collar America is more optimistic about the future that t hey have been for decades. These Google execs should have to do public acts of penance for their petty, idiotic statements. Here's the bottom line. The Google gang and the rest of big tech were happier when America was losing to China. They didn't care that blue-collar America got poorer and communist China got richer and stronger. So long as Google got richer in the process. But today, President Trump is turning the tables on that sick dynamic. His policies are working. Google is still rich, of course. But the globalists, even though the economy is going well, the globalists are still grumpy. That tells you all you need to know. And that's the "Angle." Joining us now the reaction is CRTV host Michelle Malkin along with China Okasi, a tech and cyber security expert who is author of the forthcoming book, "What the Tech Is Going on in Politics." It's great to see both of you. China, let's start with you. The Google tape that came out last couple of days, Breitbart has it exclusively, shows a corporate culture that is overwhelmingly in the tank in 2016 for Hillary. They are dejected and despondent and they look like they are set at that point to exert their influence in the tech world to change that dynamic of Trump as president. Does this look like a diverse company to you? CHINA OKASI, TECH AND CYBER SECURITY EXPERT: Well, I think that the entire thrust of technology in the tech world is actually diversity. When you consider that almost half of Fortune 500 companies were founded by immigrants, you would understand the spirit of support that these companies-- INGRAHAM: Legal immigrants, right? Yes, legal immigrants. OKASI: Yes. Legal immigrants. INGRAHAM: We are not against the legal immigrants. OKASI: But I will have to say this, OK, 80 percent of graduate students in the United States, in the fields of computer science and electrical engineering are international students, and in order for those students to stay, they need to operate on H-1B visas, OK. And so they are not necessarily going to take the track of permanent residency because that takes many years. These companies in many, many ways, have been supported and propped up by people who don't have that linear a path to immigration. So it is really not a black and white issue. And I don't think they see it as -- INGRAHAM: Why are they so dejected by Trump winning? Trump was going to do one thing, and Michelle I want you to chime in. The number one thing I think they are really annoyed by is Trump taking on China. I think the immigration thing -- yes, they are worried about that, but Trump taking on China is something Obama in his own way promised to do, Bush promised to do, no one did it. Trump did it and is leveling the playing field. That means some of these Google execs might not make as much money in the end but they are still multibillionaires but more Americans might get a slightly higher wages. Michelle? MICHELLE MALKIN, CRTV HOST: Yes. You've got the bottom line, Laura. And I'll get to China's comments about H-1B in a second. But let me just say this, I want to give a huge salute and shout out to the reporters, the tech reporters at Breitbart. I think this is a blockbuster report. It is both revelatory and confirmatory, for those of us who followed Google's capitulation to China, that goes back 12 years. Where they have thrown their own old corporate logo, "don't be evil" under the bus by agreeing to all sorts of censorship regulations, when they always stand so sanctimoniously as a holier than thou company that embraces progressive values. It is a gift that we now get to see that hypocrisy on display. And I think you are absolutely right, Laura, that these kinds of companies, in Silicon Valley, do not have America's interests at heart. So let's talk about diversity. You know, I did a report for CRTV in "Michelle Malkin Investigates" on the diverse American workforce. Tech workers, black, white, Asian-Americans, who were fired and forced to train their inferior H-1B replacement because Google and their like are more interested in suppressing the wages of American workers than they are in supporting the diversity as an American I.T. workforce. More hypocrisy from big tech and it is a cult. You look at them all seeing the praises of diversity when you have got conservative Googlers within the company that are too afraid to talk about their values and their support for our president. INGRAHAM: Yes. Someone leaked this out obviously, China. Someone's concerned inside the company. Paulson, resigns in the last week or two. You had Tristan Harris, the former global employee, February 7th, 2018, let's watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRISTAN HARRIS, I actually genuinely view this as an existential threat. When you shape people's attention, you're shaping their thoughts and thoughts proceed actions. So you are really shaping society, you are shaping culture, you are shaping whether people have the relationships they would have intended to have, whether they sleep or not. You're shaping elections. There is an entire set of consequences when you shape people's attention through design. INGRAHAM: China, your reaction? OKASI: You know, I think it is just such a monolithic view to think that all big tech companies have the same opinion. When you look at the spirit of what they are doing, it is not about being for or against the Trump administration. It is about policy. You look at the International Entrepreneurship Rule that were set about by the Obama administration, and yet has not seen implementation. It has been pushed back over and over again. Such things as the International Entrepreneurship Rule encourage those intellectual resources that we need to run these companies, all of these companies, Apple, Facebook, Google, Amazon, all have founders in them that are immigrant and that purport these views around diversity. INGRAHAM: But that's fine. No, no, no. I think that's great. China, I don't think there is any problem with that. I think Michelle -- you come here illegally, Sergey Brin and his parents fled the Soviet Union. I think it's ironic that they flee the Soviet Union, his father is a mathematician a University of Maryland. His mother works were Goddard. They are both brilliant. He's brilliant. They flee the oppressive Soviet Union only for him to turn around and help the Chinese communists develop an app to screen out offensive content. How does that make any sense? How are those the values that Google's stands up the day after the election and says, "our values are offended by Donald Trump" because they are helping the Chinese communist (inaudible) free expression? That's disgusting. OKASI: -- inaccurate. I think -- INGRAHAM: It's not inaccurate. That's a fact. That is why one of the senior researcher's quit. OKASI: -- in order to (inaudible)in any country you have to follow their rules and regulations. And I think by supplying their products, really, to the people of China, they are allowing China to be part of the global conversation, part of the -- INGRAHAM: Do you think that's what is happening? Oh, come on. (CROSSTLK) OKASI: -- then Google should not participate in that context? They should not be a part of it? INGRAHAM: Why are they doing this? Michelle, in closing, go ahead. Michelle, go ahead. I got 30 seconds. Michelle, real quick, 15. MALKIN: No, no, no. Google is kowtowing to the communists and putting essentially internet duct tape around the mouths of dissenters who dare to criticize the communist government there. Also, by the way, read "Sold Out" the book that I wrote with John (inaudible) a former programmer, American computer programmer who defends American citizens who've been harmed by these H-1B policies. Guess what, the American I.T. workforce is sick and tired of these globalist elites telling them that there aren't best and brightest workers when they are the one being fired and replaced with these wage slaves. INGRAHAM: "Fortune" magazine research and China, I don't think (inaudible) -- OK. "Fortune" magazine research on this shows that for every 100 foreign computer scientist working in United States, between 33 and 61 domestic workers were replaced. The influx of foreign workers also held down wages with compensation being 2.6 percent to 5.1 percent lower if foreign workers were not allowed. All right. Thanks for both of you for joining us, China and Michelle. And by the way, it's a disgusting Democratic smear, and the media are all too happy to run with it. Up next, we are going to explain how an 11th hour effort to derail Brett Kavanaugh's supreme court nomination tells you everything you need to know about today's left. Coming up. INGRAHAM: The air around Capitol Hill has been thick with desperation today. Why? Well, from a pathetic last ditch effort by Democrats to scuttle Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court. Intrigue swirling after reports says Senator Dianne Feinstein ws sitting on potentially damning letter. It said to be written by an unknown woman alleging sexual misconduct by Judge Kavanaugh when he was 17 years-old. I kid you not. And tonight the "Guardian" reporting that the letter claims that Kavanaugh and a male friend walked this woman in a room against her will during a party making her feel uncomfortable. The woman was later able to leave the room. We did that last week -- come on. Joining me now, Carrie Severino, the chief counsel and policy director at the Judicial Crisis Network. Carrie, I'm laughing at this. It's so pathetic on so many levels. What's going on here. CARRIE SEVERINO, CHIEF COUNSEL, JUDICIAL CRISIS NETWORK: I think -- you know, we know very little about what this letter even -- is supposed to mean but we know a lot about the politics. I mean, if Senator Feinstein had this letter since July, why didn't she ask it -- if she really thought this was credible, why didn't she ask about it when she met with him during the hearings, during these questions for the record? What's going on here is very clear. Senator Schumer said that we're going to do everything in our power to stop the nominee and that means character assassination, smears, is all fair game. I mean, look at what they are doing to Senator Collins. She has got people going after her staff saying, I hope you get raped and impregnated. They want people to follow her around and spit in her food at restaurants. There is this GoFundMe campaign that she says is a bribe that might even violate federal election law. INGRAHAM: Right. This is a smear across the board, but with Kavanaugh -- SEVERINO: This is so crazy. INGRAHAM: But with Brett, here he is 17 years old, is a Georgetown prep kid at Washington Catholic School, is 17 with a friend, locks some woman when in a room and then she was able to leave. That is what is being reported this night as a story. But if someone you don't know who heard it from someone else, who's at Stanford. This is the most -- Diane Feinstein has actually had a pretty amazing career. She was elected in '92 (inaudible) as a woman, but this is -- is this really how she wants to end her senate career, this way? It's -- pathetic doesn't even describe it, though. It's an attempt at September surprise that goes down in utter flames. It's a complete and total embarrassment. SEVERINO: Yes. She's getting push from the left, so even someone as far left as she is, is feeling the pressure to be all the more outrageous and fanatical. INGRAHAM: All right, Carrie, thanks so much. And Democrats continue to deny that Republicans deserve any credit for the economy. Their argument goes something like this. It's really only good because of Obama. Oh, it's okay now, but the economy is okay but it's going to get worse, not going to last long, or who cares. The economic boom is overshadowed by how awful a person Trump is. Former White House staff, chief of staff Reince Priebus joins us now. Reince, you heard Obama on the trail saying the economic boom is his and he's glad people are getting around and recognizing it. How humorous was that for you to watch? REINCE PRIEBUS, FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF: Well, it's humorous because really what jump- started this economy is what the president did in the first week, which was the deregulation, executive order for everyone regulation put in place, two have to be eliminated. Turned out that 22 were eliminated for every one put in place. Bu it also tells you about the politics. It's also rather smart because Barack Obama and the Democrats are fighting in 34 split districts for the control of the House. Split districts meaning they either flip from Republican to Democrat in 2012 and 2016 or vice versa. In those 34 districts, 21 of them were won by Trump and the rest were won by Clinton. This is the fight that people are going to have. And what matters right now is who can take claim over the great economy. And as bizarre as it is for you and I and the listeners to believe that somehow the economy we are in is something Barack Obama did and not President Trump is insane. But what they are trying to do is play that game and those 34 states. INGRAHAM: Yes, but they are saying everything is chaos. They want to convince people that even though their lives are getting better, it's chaos. It's Trump chaos. What can the president do? If you talk to the president, what can he do to give people a sense that sunshine is coming out. Don't' let them rain on your parade, the sun is coming out? PRIEBUS: When you and I talked about this the last time we were on and the president started talking about it, which is I would do something completely different. I would boldly champion the idea that the president is willing to put rivals in a room -- he agreed with this -- he put rivals in a room. He put Gary Cohn, Wilbur Ross, Bob Lighthizer, all these people and he allowed them to fight it out. I'm not talking about little -- INGRAHAM: But the voters don't care about Gary Cohn and -- PRIEBUS: That's my point. My point is -- INGRAHAM: How do you get these people to turn out to vote? PRIEBUS: You talk about the economy. You talk about -- INGRAHAM: Numbers don't get people to the polls. PRIEBUS: You talk about -- well, what does get people to the polls whent they are getting more money in their pockets. INGRAHAM: They want to feel that things are calming down. Don't they want things to be calm her? They want to feel that it's going to be safe streets, borders are going to be enforced, doing the president's agenda, I can take a vacation every now and then. PRIEBUS: Which is the acccomplishments and the results of the Trump agenda. And I think the accomplishments and the result is what the white house needs to focus on, and I would quit fighting over whether or not people are fighting over trade in the White House. Admit that people fight over trade in the White House. Deminimize it. INGRAHAM: But nobody cares about that. PRIEBUS: Right, but that's what I'm saying. Minimize it for what it is. INGRAHAM: So the president should focus on the results that he's brought. He does -- PRIEBUS: And he admit I, but yes. I put rivals in front of me. I learned from the Socratic Method. Who cares? Look at the results of what I have done which is why I've said in the past, the things that I have said, which is that he puts a shark and a seal on a falcon and a rabbit -- INGRAHAM: That's a Woodward book phrase. PRIEBUS: And I've said on -- I think I've said it on your show. INGRAHAM: Why is that a bad thing? PRIEBUS: It's not a bad thing. INGRAHAM: Let me seethe quote. When you put a snake and a falcon and a rabbit and a shark and a seal in a zoo with that wall, I like that. That's like a song. Things start getting nasty and bloody. I mean, if he said that, I'm like, OK, good. Why is that a problem? PRIEBUS: And the president had agreed that he encourages the fight over policy in front of him. INGRAHAM: He's 14 points down in this midterm election cycle. I know Republican, the party in power, always loses seats, but in this economy, blue-collar optimism, Obama was out there waving off the possibility that manufacturing was ever coming back. PRIEBUS: Keep in mind we were also seven to eight points down in 2014. We took control of the Senate. INGRAHAM: You have to make some headway here, right? PRIEBUS: You do have to make headway, absolutely. You do have to make some headway. But the Republicans have a natural advantage in the midterms. I am still optimistic, and the presidential approval numbers are no different today than they were in November. INGRAHAM: They're not a little down, a little bit? PRIEBUS: No, no, no. They're at 37 percent -- INGRAHAM: CNN had it down. PRIEBUS: OK, well, CNN has 36. But they were at 37 percent on Election Day of 2016. And remember, in those 34 split districts, at 34 -- excuse me, at 37 percent, 21 of those districts went from Obama to Trump in a split district at 37 percent approval in 2016. So it's not always how it appears. INGRAHAM: We're going to do this in another segment. I want to get your sense on this. I think it should be all for one, one for all right here with the Republicans. Ted Cruz is facing a tough opponent in Texas, Beto O'Rourke. He's a pinup boy in Texas. The Bushs might not like Trump, they don't like Trump, they didn't vote for Trump. But they are very popular in Texas. George W. Bush isn't campaigning for Ted Cruz. What the heck is going on? PRIEBUS: Honestly, I don't know that if he is or not. INGRAHAM: He's not as far as I know. But shouldn't he? Come on, support Republicans. PRIEBUS: I think control of the Senate is what's at stake. I think you let bygones be bygones. INGRAHAM: Yes, turn it out. PRIEBUS: Win control for the Senate, not just for the president. But if you are not willing to work for the president, work for the good of the country and the things you believe in as a Republican, period. INGRAHAM: Reince, it's always good to see you. I like the snake in the dove. PRIEBUS: I think it's great. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: That is like most of our houses. Everybody is fighting all the time. Up next, we head back to North Carolina for a live update on hurricane Florence as the conditions are intensifying by the minute. Stay right there. INGRAHAM: A lot of fast-moving developments tonight as hurricane Florence roars into the Carolinas. For more, let's go to Fox News correspondent Leland Vittert who is in Morehead City, North Carolina. Leland? LELAND VITTERT, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Laura, in the past 30 minutes or so this light pole and I have gotten to be better and better friends as the wind has picked up. Now it's the point where you really have to hold onto it lest you get blown away here in these winds that keep picking up. We can't stress it enough. What makes Florence so different is not necessarily the intensity. This isn't the worst hurricane you can be through in terms of wind speed, but how long it's going to last. You are talking about 20 or 24 hours, which having been out here now for about 10 hours in it, it's pretty miserable. But just imagine being at home, as many people are now, watching and knowing that the conditions that we are in is what is happening to their house. It is not an additive situation, every hour isn't just another hour. It's an exponentially bad situation that's getting worse. And the tide is coming in now. We watched these docks continue to rise. There is only another foot or two left on those pilings before the docks break away and then go into the city, and sort of destructive barges through this city. And that is even before we get to the point where you have got the storm surge and these 40 inches of rain now that are not only going to come through here in Morehead but also upriver, and all the way back, dozens if not hundreds of miles into coastal Carolina. Right now about 100,000 power outages, Laura, that will go into the multi- hundred-thousands before the night is over. INGRAHAM: Leland, when do you make the decision to pull off that dock there, because you got about -- looks like a lot less than one foot before that water starts rolling over you, my friend. What happens when that the lamppost gives way? That is not a good situation. VITTERT: The lamppost is stuck a couple of feet into concrete. But once this water comes up here over this, the idea of slipping and being in that water is not one that I think -- a risk we're going to take. So that is about the time that we pull out. INGRAHAM: Leland, please, please be careful. I don't like the looks of you out there with that lamppost, although you do make a nice couple, Leland. So you have a good rest of the night. We'll send some provisions down your way. We'll have more reports from the ground later in the hour. As we explained in our "Angle" last night, the Democratic Party is being slowly -- not slowly -- it's being hijacked by a strain of leftism manifesting itself in vitriol and outright now violence. With that in question, my question tonight -- why aren't all Republican, given what we're seeing from the Democrats, including, by the way, the Republicans who don't even like President Trump that much, like Ben Sasse, Jeff Flake, George W. Bush, and others, why aren't they all coalescing around candidates, especially those who are vulnerable, to make sure the GOP wins in this November, including in the Senate, not just the House, but Senate races? Joining us now to discuss, Ari Fleischer, former press secretary for President George W. Bush, and Dave Bossie, former deputy campaign manager for the Trump campaign. Ari, let's start with you. George W. Bush hitting the campaign trail. He is still very popular in certain parts of the country, and former two term president. But I don't think he is campaigning for someone like a Ted Cruz who's in a very close race and Bush's home state right now. What gives there? ARI FLEISCHER, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: There's two months to go, and I think the president will make some decisions about what he's going to do, how extensive it will be. He's traditionally stayed off the campaign trail since he left the presidency, and that is just his personal decision. But his popularity is rising. And frankly, Laura, I want to see more establishment Republicans out there helping our candidates everywhere. This is about the future of our nation, and every election is important. And the worst thing Republicans can do, either their establishment or Trump Republicans, is let the Democrats take back the Congress and do the damage they'll do to our country. INGRAHAM: But Dave, instead of people, all for one, one for all, the Democrats are just going to, they are out there standing shoulder to shoulder. They don't agree on anything. DAVID BOSSIE, PRESIDENT, CITIZENS UNITED: No matter how insane they are. They stand -- it doesn't matter what they say or do, the policy positions, the left is always very good at standing together, no matter how awkward it might be. Look, the Republicans really need to -- they have 54 days to decide whether or not they want to continue to have control of the House and of the Senate. I think the House is really where it comes down to. And Trump derangement syndrome amongst some of these Republicans is really unfortunate. Flake and Corker should be out there campaigning for candidates across their states and across the country, and instead they are not. They are attacking this president, undermining these great policy positions, these great economic numbers that we have. And they are detracting from that. INGRAHAM: And instead, we have Ben Sasse giving interviews, Ari, about how -- the burning issue on peoples' mind going into the midterms is politicians releasing their tax returns. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. BEN SASSE, (R) NEBRASKA: It's never been a lot but everybody has always done it. This is the first time it hasn't had it. The president said he would release them once he got the nomination, and then once he got elected. Then he said the people have lost interest. I think there's a lot of distrust. He should release them. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Ari, your reaction? FLEISCHER: Why do they have to keep stirring this pot? I understand how the press can put a microphone in front of a politician and you say something anti-Trump and they run to do it. It's not constructive. And frankly, when it comes to Sasse or Corker or Flake going into some of these districts to campaign, most people in the United States have not heard of these guys outside of their states. So I don't know that it's all that helpful to Governor Scott in Florida to have a senator from Tennessee campaign for him. The dynamics of this race are really going to be whether or not Donald Trump can get his base out to support Republicans. We all know the anti- Trump base is coming out. So like it or not, this is a nationalized election. There is no dodging it. And the Trump base needs to show up in presidential year numbers, not off year numbers. INGRAHAM: I think Ari is right. However, it is not about going out and really campaigning. Who cares, Ben Sasse -- he couldn't get arrested. Nobody knows who he is. I agree with that. But how about buttoning it up? Button the mouth. We don't really need to hear you doing your best MSNBC pundit impersonation, OK. Don't kneecap the president during a midterm election cycle, Ben. BOSSIE: But some of these folks are on their way out. Look at Jeff Flake and Bob Corker. INGRAHAM: They've no constituency. BOSSIE: But not only do they have no constituency, they are not running for reelection because the same people who elected President Trump wouldn't reelect them in November, and that is -- INGRAHAM: That stings -- BOSSIE: -- fundamentally their problem for them. They need to -- this is part of their going away party. INGRAHAM: And Ari -- FLEISCHER: But what America has got to focus on, the alternative here, if the Democrats take control, are their policies, and their policies are a government takeover of health care, that Donald Trump committed treason, and we should raise our taxes. That is what is driving the entire Democratic agenda. Do we really want that to be running the House or the Senate again? I sure hope not. BOSSIE: Ari is exactly right. Look, President Trump is not on the ballot in November, but his policies are. The America first agenda that he ran on and won on and has made America great again over the last 18 months is on the ballot this November and we have to show up in force. INGRAHAM: Abolish ICE, that is what the Democrats want to do. FLEISCHER: One other policy point. Medicare for all, the rally cry from the Democrats. The worst thing for seniors who rely on Medicare is to make Medicare Medicare for all. It's already going broke, and if you want longer lines and worse health care for Medicare for seniors, make it Medicare for all. INGRAHAM: Blue-collar America, they are doing well. They better turn out big time in the midterms. This thing is all going to go south. Gentlemen, thanks so much. And how the media treat Michelle Obama versus Melania Trump. It tells us a lot about our current moment that we are in, our political atmosphere. We're going to explain it all, next. INGRAHAM: When it comes to politics, first lady Melania Trump seems pretty hands-off, unlike former first lady Michelle Obama, who's been all over the political landscape, trying to of course get ready to sell her book and whip up Democratic votes for the midterms. And while Michelle is given the cover girl treatment, an actual cover girl, Melania, is disparaged and often ridiculed. Joining us with their reaction, Rachel Campos-Duffy is a Fox News contributor and Gretchen Von Helms, a Democratic strategist. All right, ladies, Michelle Obama is an impressive person. She seems like a great mom, loves her husband, very politically engaged, that is fine. Shot 12 magazine covers during her time in the White House, "Vogue" three times, "Time" magazine twice, "Glamour," "In Style." I don't know, I can't remember one magazine cover Melania has been on, maybe one when they won the election, "People" or something. What do you make of this, Gretchen? GRETCHEN VON HELMS, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well, this is really about not a political issue but a gender issue I think, because the press has treated and picked on women as either too fat or too skinny or too tall or too short, or too frumpy in the case of Hillary Clinton. So it isn't just about the first -- INGRAHAM: We are not talking about Hillary. Focus on what we are talking about. We're talking about Michelle Obama, who was literally on every magazine cover that we can remember. VON HELMS: She did a great job. She was wonderful. INGRAHAM: And Melania, who was a cover girl is on nothing. She's gorgeous. They are both beautiful women. One happens to be Donald Trump's wife, and one happens to be Barack Obama's wife. And all we're saying is, take politics out of it. They are both first ladies, and yet on "The View" as we saw just a couple of days, Rachel, this is what the ladies on "The View" said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was struck by Melania's a statement. She said - UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do not do -- don't do it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can't do that. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We know. That's why we are telling you, don't do it. (LAUGHTER) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's right. I can't do it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Obviously, ha-ha-ha, she has a goofy accent. We're going to say that without saying it. Rachel? RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: The irony of it, right. This is the party of diversity and tolerance and supposedly immigrants, as well, and here they are making fun of our first immigrant first lady in modern times. So that is very interesting. But really, this is about politics. Your guest sounds very nice but very naive. If Melania were a progressive, if she was for socialism and all these other leftist policies, if she was married to a leftist -- VON HELMS: That's ridiculous. If she just got out there and did stuff, she would get on the cover of stuff. She's not been very active. CAMPOS-DUFFY: She would get the covers of the magazines. She is a former international model. She is clearly the most fashionable first lady we have had since Jackie O, maybe even surpassing Jackie O. And yet not only does Michelle Obama, but so does Chelsea Clinton. I mean, who has ever thought of high fashion and Chelsea Clinton, and she got "Vogue" but Melania doesn't get "Vogue"? This -- VON HELMS: They shouldn't be about how these women look. It should be about how they think. And Melania has not been forthcoming about what she thinks and what she wants to engage in and what her platform is. This is not about these women dress or the little things. It's about the beliefs that they put forth. CAMPOS-DUFFY: In the case of Melania, it's one other thing. It's about the leftist strategy to not normalize Donald Trump. So they can't legitimize him, and the strategy includes not legitimizing his wife, his kids, his blue-collar recovery, economy, his booming economy, trade -- INGRAHAM: I have a question, Gretchen. Gretchen, I have a question, though. Gretchen, liberal women are all like, we are pro-choice, whatever you want to be, be. If you want to be politically active, if you just want to be a traditional first lady, and maybe you don't plant the vegetable garden, and you don't do Let's Move and dance with Ellen, but maybe you support -- VON HELMS: You want to stay home, take care of your children, that's great. INGRAHAM: Yes, maybe you do that. So, but is her choice. Why not -- VON HELMS: Michelle Obama -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Why is Melania -- you know she's being treated differently. I don't know why you are denying that. She's obviously being treated differently. Hold on, let Gretchen finish. VON HELMS: She's choosing to stay home, she's choosing to be with her family. That is a great choice. She is choosing to put faith and family first. That is her decision. It doesn't necessarily make it a sexy cover magazine. But she's not putting herself out there for that. So what. Let her stay home. INGRAHAM: Wait a second, "Vogue" magazine puts -- all the women on the cover of "Vogue" are there because they are brilliant endeavors? Most of them are there because they are fashion and their looks and a lot of them are business people, too. But come on, guys. They are there in part because they are beautiful. VON HELMS: First of all, Michelle -- INGRAHAM: We are out of time. Love you, Gretchen, for coming on, and love you, of course, Ms. Duffy. All right, Rachel. We head live to the Carolinas next. Latest on the hurricane. INGRAHAM: Hurricane Florence currently smashing into the Carolina coastline. For more on what is happening, let's go back to Fox News correspondent Leland Vittert, who is still in Morehead City, North Carolina, and still holding onto that lamppost. Leland, glad you're still friends there with that lamppost. LELAND VITTERT, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Still very good friends, but about to part, much to, I should say, the happiness to both you and my mother on this one. The storm surge keeps coming and you are really getting a sense of the power of the water here. And that is what is the destructive nature that Florence will bring not only here, but farther inland. What makes this storm so unusual is how it is curving in there. And the barrier islands are just about two or three miles that way. But rather than acting as a barrier, they are acting as a funnel for this water as it continues to slam in here. And the longer that Florence turns, it could be in total about 24 hours of hurricane conditions. The worst it's going to get, not for the people out on the islands, it's bad there, but the water levels will continue to rise here. And up the streams, farther inland, sometimes up to 100 miles inland, you could get really catastrophic flooding, which means water rescues are going to be going for a long time. As we are out here now, probably about eight hours into hurricane conditions, you begin to understand why authorities were so dire in their predictions here. It is so clear that if people decided to say, they were essentially on their own. Too dangerous now for the police or fire department to come out, Laura. INGRAHAM: Leland, please, please be careful out there. And let's now go to Rick Leventhal, who is in Wrightsville Beach, North Carolina, where the storm is about to hit next. Rick? RICK LEVENTHAL, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Laura, for most of the day Wrightsville Beach was pretty calm. And in the last couple of hours things have picked up pretty dramatically. We were down right by the beach in a house about five doors from the ocean. And because of the threats from the storm surge, we moved to higher ground. And we are definitely well protected here, but we are also feeling the winds picking up and the rain coming down. Wrightsville Beach is one of these coastal communities that heeded the mandatory evacuation order, just a handful of residents stayed behind. What we saw throughout the day were police officers, beat patrol and fire department, doing their rounds, doing their patrols to make sure that nobody was getting into trouble. And everything was good as of a couple of hours ago. The fire department retreated to the other side of the bridge, and everybody's getting ready to ride this thing out. Again, the big fear is that the storm surge will live up to expectations, seven to eleven feet. And where we are we'll be fine, but all these homes and businesses down on sea level, they could be in for some pretty significant flooding, as of course the roads could become too. So we are keeping an eye on it and we'll keep you posted. INGRAHAM: Rick, how long is the water supposed to be coming in there? How long is the rain supposed to last? LEVENTHAL: We were told to expect heavy rain for the next three days. So we are. The surge could come sometime after midnight with high tide, but they are saying this storm is moving so slowly that it could be tomorrow morning, even midday tomorrow by the time the hurricane force winds get here. INGRAHAM: Got it. Rick, please stay safe out there. Please, please stay safe. We'll be right back. INGRAHAM: And 60 houses set ablaze in north Boston tonight, a big gas leak, gas explosion. Our prayers are with those families. And for everybody in Florence's path, please, please stay safe. Follow instructions of officials. And our reporters on the scene, they'll be there all night. We thank them for their coverage. Please be sure to keep it tuned right here to Fox News Channel for the latest updates and information all throughout the night. It starts with Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team. Shannon? 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TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: I'm telling people stay tuned! HANNITY: Wow, what a way to sell it. CARLSON: Yes. HANNITY: Don't get your beer now. Wait until Ingraham comes on at 10:00. What is that? Get your beer before Tucker. All right. Have a great night. Great show tonight. CARLSON: Thank you, Sean. HANNITY: Welcome to HANNITY. A lot going on tonight. Hurricane Florence, you see it. It is on a collision course with North and South Carolina. If you are in the evacuation zone, please get out while you still can. And sadly, not everyone is taking hurricane seriously. Take, for example, we got the editorial board, believe it or not, of "The Washington Post," I'm not making this up, floating an insane conspiracy theory that President Trump is responsible for the storm. This is not fake news. This is literally prompt sickness derangement syndrome at a psychotic level. We'll show you the actual article and frankly, it should embarrass all these so-called journalists that claim they have so much integrity. Also tonight, a huge dump of more Strzok-page text. We have them. And now, we have even more evidence. It's now incontrovertible, of what is illicit, politically, motivated anti-Trump deep state leaking, CIA, FBI, DOJ, and, yes, from the director of national intelligence. They are all included in this, conspiring against Trump not to get elected and then, of course, to stop him after he was elected. Now, remember what Chuck Schumer said? The intel community will get you six ways from Sunday. I hate to say it, I think he's right. And "Breitbart" has obtained footage of tech giant Google and their first company-wide meeting after the 2016 presidential election. All our fears have been confirmed. The people of Google detest the president you elected and everybody who voted for him. You are going to see this video for yourself. We are now also 55 days away from one of the most important midterms in your life. We will show you how the tactics of the left are beyond out-of- control, full of lies, and we do have a lot of good news for Republicans and information they should be using to win in 55 days. All right. Sit tight, buckle up, it's time for tonight's breaking news, multi-pronged opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. It is now a full-blown psychosis. It is a psychological level of unhingement I've never seen. Trump derangement syndrome, out-of-control. Remember, if your dog bites, if the bee stings, if the baby cries and you're feeling sad, it's all President Trump's fault. If he literally cures cancer, they will never give him credit in the media. Now, according to the editorial board of "The New York Times," Hurricane Florence is also President Trump's fault. Now, I'm not making this up. Look at the headline on your screen. Another hurricane is about to batter our coast. Trump is complicit. It's "The Washington Post," by the way, not "The New York Times." Believe it or not, that headline, it's not just click bait. "The Washington Post" actually laid out a case in the editorial for why President Trump is responsible for bad weather. Look at this quote: When it comes to extreme whether Mr. Trump is complicit. He plays down humans roles in increasing the risks and he continues to dismantle efforts to address those risks. Not only is the claim totally absurd, it's also factually wrong, not that they really care. The americanenterpriseinstitute.org, aei.org, they put out and presidents first year in office, the U.S. reduced CO2 emissions more than any other country in the world. So, Trump derangement syndrome has now reached a new height. These people are just downright sick in their obsession to hate the president. The slogan from "The Washington Post" is, democracy dies in darkness. Sadly, the final nail in the coffin for democracy, journalism, if you will, is the kind of blinding anti-Trump hatred that is on display from them and all their friends in the media almost every day. Now, maybe instead of blaming President Trump for bad weather and a hurricane, maybe the mainstream media could focus on the biggest abuse of power scandal in our history. And thanks tonight to the former FBI love birds Page and Strzok, we have even more evidence that your government was leaking sensitive information, what, to destroy Trump from the get-go -- first to prevent him from becoming president, then to destroy his presidency. We showed you earlier this week the newly uncovered text messages were feeling in 2017 media link strategy with the FBI coordinating with the DOJ. Sara Carter also discovering that Strzok and Page were working on a Russian interference op-ed in the lead up to the 2016 election. So, there was leaking not only by the FBI and the DOJ before the election, again to prevent Trump from winning, after the election to destroy a duly elected president in the view of the people. Now, Sara Carter has obtained even more new texts from Strzok detailing his cozy relationship, oh, with "The New York Times" and one of its reporters, Mike Schmidt. April 14th, 2017, Strzok texting, quote, also, apparently, "The Times" is angry with us about "The Washington Post" scoop, and earlier discussion that we had about the Schmidt piece that had so many inaccuracies, too much to detail here but I told Mike -- redacted -- and Andy they need to understand we are absolutely dealing in good faith with them. Strzok then follows up that text with, quote, the FISA one coupled with "The Guardian" piece from yesterday. The FISA one, that's right, Peter Strzok was helping "The New York Times" with a story on the supposedly top- secret FISA court. This is beyond bad. Supposedly, he's running the investigation. What does it say about "the New York Times"? What does it say about "The Washington Post"? All you need is one anti-Trump official to hand them propaganda and misinformation, distorted lies from a known Trump-hater at this point. Blow it up, act as though it's gospel truth? That's the paper of record? Where are the corrections? One of the coming? Don't hold your breath. Now, we did reach out to the DOJ, "The New York Times," "The Washington Post" and Strzok and page for comment. We have yet to get a response but tonight we have brand-new never before seen text messages. It now appears that on top of -- let's see, the director of national intelligence, the FBI and DOJ colluding in all this and leaking to the press, it seems like the CIA, they too were involved in the same kind of illicit leaking and, yes, we are talking about you, Mr. Sanctimony, John Brennan. FoxNews.com just obtained brand-new texts showing that some officials were, quote, leaking like mad in the lead up to the FBI's Russia probe. Why? To influence public opinion. Take a look at this exchange. This is just after the president got elected, December 15th, 2016. There they are again, Lisa Page texting Strzok, quote, oh, remind me to tell you tomorrow the times doing a story about the RNC hacks. Strzok responding, quote, and more than they already did? I told you that Quinn told me they are pulling all the stops on some story. He then followed up, quote, think our sisters have become leaking like mad, scorned and worried and political, they are kicking into overdrive. According to reporting from her own Catherine Herridge, the sisters that they are referring to that Strzok mentioned, well, that likely is the CIA, that would be John Brennan and Barack Obama's CIA. Less than a month after that exchange, "The New York Times" published a story about RNC hacks, and on the very same day, "BuzzFeed" published the Steele dossier filled with Russian lies that Hillary paid for. So, you have Strzok referring to the CIA pulling out all the stops, saying the CIA is scorned and that they are political and they are leaking like mad. Less than a month later, the dossier becomes public. Is this the kind of politically motivated leaking from our most trusted government officials? Is that acceptable, John Brennan? I hate to say that Chuck Schumer is right, but if you go against the intelligence community, they will get you six ways to Sunday. Why? Because the deep state with the power that they have intelligence-wise, it's like a house of cards. We are watching the whole scheme come tumbling down, revealing the level of corruption in your government that should make you sick and concerned. And as it turns out, high-ranking deep state officials, they weren't the only people rocked by the election of Donald Trump. Look at Breitbart.com. They obtained official video from inside a 2016 company-wide meeting at the tech giant Google. This was following Trump's win. If you thought the good people of Google weren't biased and against all things Trump, well, this should make you think again. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, most people here are pretty upset and pretty sad because of the election. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That was the first moment I really felt like we were going to lose. It was this massive like kick in the gut that we were going to lose and it was really painful. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We'll be very strong and vocal. And, you know, not just from a press standpoint or a PR standpoint but actually working hard behind the scenes to stand up for what's right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's worth being very vigilant and thinking about all these issues, what can we do to lead to may be of better quality of governance, decision-making and so forth. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there anything positive you see from this election result? (LAUGHTER) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Boy, that's the really tough on right now. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Google, fair and balanced just like "The New York Times" and "The Washington Post" and just like all those deep state actors, responded to the release of that video in part, quote, nothing was said at that meeting or any other meeting to suggest that any political bias ever influences the way we build and operate our products. Of course, judging from what we just saw, well, we could show you and I were more of exactly the same thing, virtually nobody, at least no one in a position of power at Google wanted Donald Trump to win. It sounds like the CIA, FBI, DOJ and, yes, the director of national intelligence under Obama. According to what we just saw, many actively working against president and against the candidate, and yet, we are just supposed to believe them that there's no political bias and their bias doesn't impact any of Google's products? They literally held a funeral for our country at a company-wide meeting the day after Donald Trump won. We'll have more on that developing story throughout the hour. But first, all right, the countdown continues. It's all in your hands. This is where you, we the people have all the power. In 55 days, the Trump agenda will move full steam ahead or it will stop dead in its tracks. You get to decide. Now, some of these races will literally be decided by just a handful of votes. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY), MAJORITY LEADER: I will just list you a bunch of races that are dead-even: Arizona, Nevada, Tennessee, Montana, North Dakota, Missouri, Indiana, West Virginia and Florida. All of them too close to call and every one of them like a knife fight in an alley -- I mean, just a brawl in every one of those places. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: This is a time when your vote is going to matter. Do you care? Would you like the Trump agenda to continue? Do like the records on the economy we keep talking about? A lot is on the line. A lot is at stake in this midterm election. Fifty- five days away. Look at this map. If you are in one of these states, you literally will decide whether the Republicans were on the Senate or Chuck Schumer, who says we can't impeach Trump soon enough will run the Senate. You will decide if the Trump agenda moves through Congress. You will decide if originalist, constitutionalist judges continue to be confirmed. And look very closely at this. If you live in one of these House districts -- we want it really slow -- you will decide whether or not the president will face impeachment because that's what Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer promised. Yes, there's a lot in play here. It's that serious. You've heard from all of them. If they want impeach the president. On my radio show earlier today, the former speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, said Republicans, they need a national election. They need to sign off on the unified agenda in order to secure victory. Now, we often talk about the five things the Democrats are going to do if they win. Let's see: impeach the president, they want their crumbs back. They want a tax increase. They want to keep Obamacare, that's worked out so well for so many of you paying more, losing your doctors and losing your plans. Of course, they want to eliminate ICE, they want open borders. Well, what are the things Republicans ought to sign onto and promise to you if they get elected? Maybe, one, it could be to follow through on the Trump agenda. Number two, secure the border wall and fund the wall fully. Maybe they could support the president's choice for constitutionalist, originalist on the court so that you don't have people literally legislating from the bench. Or vote to make the tax cuts permanent. Why shouldn't they be permanent? It's good for the economy. We'll have more information about that in a minute. Dismantle Obamacare. Replace it with better plans, for example, that have more choices. Health care savings accounts give you more power. Health care cooperatives like our good friend down in Wichita, Kansas, Dr. Josh Umbehr, Atlas M.D., 50 bucks a month, unlimited care and he negotiates 95 percent reductions for any medicines you might need. Also, how about making America energy independent? We use all of our resources available. If we've got more than the entire world combined. It would be good for national security. It keeps us safe. It will be good for the economy. It will create millions of high-paying jobs for Americans and in the process wealth for Americans, so they can buy a nice car, nice house in a safe neighborhood and send their kids to whatever they want to send them to. Republicans also, they've got to promote just how effective Donald Trump has been in the last 19 months. Just today, get this, look at this, we learned the U.S. median income rose to a record high during the president's first year in office. Poverty rate also fell during the president's first year. Millions fewer on food stamps, about 4 million fewer, 4 million new jobs. We have manufacturing jobs than we've seen in 25 years, jobs said Obama was never coming back. This country is literally booming under the president's leadership, and as that happens, good news is bad for the Democrats that want their power back, because we had eight years of failure under their policies and under Obama's policies. And on top of that, guess what? America will still be even more prosperous, 14 states, record low unemployment. Record low unemployment for African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Asian-Americans, 65-year- low for women in the workforce, youth unemployment, 55-year-low. On top of this, watch all the left, they are getting unhinged. They are desperate. You got a guy in California actually trying to stab a GOP congressional candidate at his campaign stand. Police in Washington, D.C., investigating a threat to commit a mass shooting at a Make America Great event in Trump International Hotel. A Wyoming GOP office was set on fire less than two days after it opened. Senator Susan Collins, she's received over 3,000 coat hangers as she prepares to vote in the confirmation of Judge Kavanaugh and her staff has reportedly been receiving vulgar and threatening phone calls and promises to fund any opponents she may have. Not a good climate for people to support Trump. The rhetoric on the left, I don't blame those people, but certainly it's having an impact on those that have a tendency to be crazy. Before something horrible happens, maybe they should stop telling people on the left to be getting in people's faces and chasing Pam Bondi and Sarah Sanders and her kids and Secretary Nielsen out of restaurants. Joining us now with our top story, FOX News contributor Sara Carter, investigative reporter, the author of the number one "New York Times" bestseller "The Russian Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett. Sara, let's start with these new text messages. This is three days in a row now. Now, it starts off with they are going to have a big media strategy. That was the first thing. And let's get into where we are today with "The Washington Post" and "The New York Times." SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I think this is a smoking gun that the FBI, particularly Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, and possibly Andrew McCabe, the former deputy director of the FBI, were leaking information to the media about none other than Carter Page. In April 2017, Sean, we have information in these text messages that they specifically state that "The New York Times" is upset with the scope that was given to "The Washington Post." Well, on April 14th, or April 11th is when "The Washington Post" actually published a story confirming that there was a FISA warrant on Carter Page. I -- think about this. They were actually confirming a secret warrant to spy on an American citizen publicly with the newspaper. If this all pans out to be true, these are, in their own words, these are text messages from Peter Strzok to Lisa Page basically confirming that the FBI leaked information to "The Washington Post." I spoke with Carter Page. He again said this is the biggest charade he's ever seen. Today, he is just dumbfounded at the fact that they would go this far, but they didn't surprise him. HANNITY: Yes, Gregg Jarrett, let's get into this -- if you really break it down, all the evidence we have here, let's see, the FBI, DOJ leaking. Now, we know the CIA is leaking. Where did the dossier leaks come from? Do you believe that came from the director of national intelligence at the time? All Obama officials. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: He leaked to the media, but the instigator was John Brennan, CIA director. HANNITY: So, let's talk about what it means. JARRETT: When powerful forces in government abuse their trust to subvert the legal process and when the media is complicit by condoning corrupt behavior and failing, deliberately, to tell the truth, democracy is threatened and that's what happened here. The alphabet agencies of the intelligence community, the FBI, the DNI, the CIA, the Department of Justice, they were all involved in doing the same thing -- leaking false information about Donald Trump and his associates to damage Trump and to, in the end, try to undo the election results. It is a cesspool of corruption that -- and the people who did this, they need to be brought to justice if they committed crimes and I can identify a variety of crimes, including abuse of power and obstruction of justice and perjury. HANNITY: All right. We're not getting at this very quickly, though. I mean, we thought we had all the Strzok-Page text. There's a lot of talk earlier this week, Sara, that in fact, there might be unredacted material that included the 302s, which Steele and Bruce Ohr in particular. It might include the FISA warrant, more particularly the one that was signed, the last one by Rod Rosenstein. We talked about that conflict last night. Also, the Gang of Eight information that's never been released. And, you know, I read people and commenting that Sean Hannity and Sara Carter and Gregg are full of crap, but in fact this information does exist. It can be declassified and unredacted. Why hasn't it been? CARTER: I believe it will be. All the sources that I have spoken with say that the White House is reviewing this, that the president will declassify all of these documents. We have to understand right now, of course, hurricane is barreling down. This is probably not the time to release those documents. I would assume that the president will do this as soon as possible, particularly with all this new information coming forward, Sean. Those FISA documents are absolutely necessary. They need to be declassified. Even more importantly, I think along with the FISA documents -- hey, look, they leaked it to "The New York Times," to "The Washington Post", apparently according to their own text messages. They didn't seem concerned about the secrecy of the FISA documents. If they were willing to give it out at the same time that James Comey was actually signing a FISA renewal, because during this time, James Comey himself signed the third FISA renewal, and in June, Rod Rosenstein signed the last. So, if they were OK with leaking this to "The Washington Post," we should be able to see those documents, as well as the dossier that was given to the Gang of Eight, which I have been told holds an enormous amount of exculpatory evidence that was withheld from the FISC court, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. HANNITY: So, we have all these big -- the biggest players with the powerful tools of intelligence that they're avail, you know, the CIA leaking like mad, Gregg, then the dossier leak, then Strzok and Page, then Comey, McCabe is mentioned in these new text messages. He knew about it. What happens when you leak this kind of information to the press, and they are the people, in the case of Strzok and Page and others involved in the debt investigation that is ongoing? JARRETT: Well, if any of them involve grand jury information, that's a crime. It's also a crime called obstruction of justice. If you're using your government job to interfere in an otherwise legitimate investigation, and it's a crime to launch an illegitimate investigation to deprive people of their rights, all of those are crimes and if those crimes were committed, these people ought to be indicted for it, and you've named a great many of them. And they are all in my book as well. HANNITY: All right. Thank you both. We'll have the latest on Hurricane Florence about to take the Carolinas. More reaction to this breaking news. Congressman Mark Meadows, who got a lot of this new information, Jim Jordan, they'll join us as we continue tonight on "Hannity." HANNITY: All right. Here now with more reaction to these explosive, brand-new, just released text messages between Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Congressman Jim Jordan, Congressman Mark Meadows. It all started two days ago with the media strategy and drip by drip, we keep getting more and more of these text messages. What do we see, Congressman Meadows? It looked like the FBI, DOJ, now the CIA leaking all this information before the election, after the election, all designed to destroy Trump. Some of them are involved in leading investigation supposedly against him. REP. MARK MEADOWS (R-NC), FREEDOM CAUCUS CHAIRMAN: Well, obviously, today's new text messages would suggest that the media leak strategy was exactly what we surmised in the letter we sent to Rod Rosenstein just a couple of days ago, I think. But the bigger context of this is that this is not the end of it. I can say the Department of Justice has been working with Jim and I to get us additional documents. And I can tell you, there are dozens of other documents that would support the fact that Peter Strzok and Lisa Page had ongoing relationships with multiple reporters, and that they were feeding them information to spin a narrative against this president. HANNITY: Is that illegal? MEADOWS: No, it's not even -- it's not legal, it's against protocol. But the other thing is, is they are denying it and we have the proof that would suggest otherwise. So, you know, good reporting tonight on behalf of Catherine and Sara with these text messages, but I can tell you this, we believe that all the documents need to be made available to the American people. Let them judge. We have nothing to hide. The president has nothing to hide. Let's get it out there. HANNITY: Let's talk about that, Jim Jordan. Look, a lot of people, including me, are frustrated because we've been waiting and requesting -- Congress has requested and it's been denied again and again and again, and it's been constant obstruction, but specifically, there is something, apparently, on pages 10 through 12, 17 through 34 of the Rod Rosenstein -- the signature of the third FISA renewal, the fourth warrant altogether, 302s, which would get into more detail with Christopher Steele and Bruce Ohr, they were trying to feed -- Steele was trying to feed this information, funnel it through Bruce Ohr, to Robert Mueller's group. MEADOWS: Yes. HANNITY: It conflicts them I think. Then, of course, you got the "Gang of Eight" information. Then I think at some point, we should get all the Strzok- Page text messages and correspondence. When are we going to get this information? People are frustrated. REP. JIM JORDAN (R), OHIO: Hopefully soon. Transparency is a good thing. Here's what so frustration about -- the dossier was a big lie. So, what they did is they said this is a big lie. The more people we can get talking about the dossier, the more likely it is they will believe the lie. So, that's why they had this leak to support a document that was the basis for everything. That's the big problem here. They took that document, the dossier, untrue document. They took it to the secret court and didn't tell the court important facts to get a warrant to spy on the other campaign. HANNITY: Wait a minute, you say it nicely. Didn't they purposely lie to the FISA court, purposely withhold pertinent information to the FISA court? Isn't that a fraud committed on a court? JORDAN: Didn't tell them who paid for it. Didn't tell them the guy who wrote it, Christopher Steele, had extreme bias against the president, said he was desperate to stop Trump and didn't tell the court about Ohr's involvement, both Bruce and Nellie Ohr's involvement in production of the document. Didn't tell them. You and I go to court, Sean, we talked about this before. Mark and I go to court, we've got to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: If the (Inaudible) redacted, what do you know and what do you expect the American people will say? Why do people tell me -- I've not seen them. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: I ask them, what is it on a scale of 1 to 10? Everyone says a 10 or a nine is the lowest number it's gotten. MEADOWS: Well-- (CROSSTALK) JORDAN: Go ahead, Mark. MEADOWS: Go ahead, Jim. JORDAN: Well, I was just going to say I think Matt Gaetz and some others said it best last week, it's probably was not there. We'll probably see very clearly they didn't tell the court the things you and I just talked about that if we were in front of court we would have -- we would have to tell them. So, I think that will be the -- if will be the omission what was omission from the FISA application that will be the big news. But those 302s are important too, because the pattern was every single time Bruce Ohr communicated with Christopher Steele and with Glenn Simpson he immediately went to the FBI and reported on that conversation. I want to know what those reports contain, what all did he say to these key people who were the ones who paid for and put together the dossier in the first place? HANNITY: Mark, where is Spartacus, Cory Booker, when we need him for revealing information? MEADOWS: Well, here's the thing, we do need to reveal this. We know that James Comey leak. We know that Andrew McCabe leak. We know that actually Peter Strzok and Lisa Page-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Strzok and Page. MEADOWS: -- leaked. We also know that the reporters that they leaked to, know that they leaked and listen, we've got names. We got actually reporter's names. I believe that journalism is alive and well. But at the same time we got to make sure that we get rid of this and the FBI and DOJ-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Are you confident, I am told that there's exculpatory evidence in the 302s, gang of eight information, and in unredacted FISA that they literally, purposely held exculpatory evidence as it relates to Papadopoulos, Carter Page, is that true? MEADOWS: Well, we've heard the same things. I can tell you seeing some of the unclassified documents there is more of the story that has not been shared with the FISA court and actually with the American people. The time is now, we've got to get out there and we are calling on the president hopefully to release those documents. HANNITY: All right. Gentlemen, thank you both for what you do. JORDAN: Thank you. HANNITY: I know it's taking a lot of courage on working both to your parts. When we come back, mandatory evacuations are in effect in the Carolinas, elsewhere, hurricane Florence barreling towards the coast. Rick Reichmuth he has a live report. And much more straight ahead on this busy breaking news night tonight on Hannity. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: My administration is in close coordination with state and local authorities and FEMA, these are tremendous people also, as you know, has already placed extensive resources on the ground, including search and rescue experts, power restoration and medical support. Residents in the path of these devastating storms should comply with all evacuation orders and other emergency instructions. Protection of life is the absolute highest priority, and that's what we're doing. It's called protection of life. So God bless everybody and be careful. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I talked to my reliable sources a few today and they said that they have already prepositioned trailers with food and water, medicine, supplies, baby formula, cots, blankets, and are ready for a lot of devastation. The president earlier today discussing the preparation for hurricane Florence. The storm heading right towards the East Coast of the United States and the Carolinas. Rick Reichmuth is in the Fox News weather center with more tonight. Every single meteorologist I've spoken to watching your coverage all day, they are all saying the same thing. This is the real deal. This hurricane is going to hit, there's going to be a surge. It's going to slow down once it makes landfall and it's actually going to hit and then began to slowly move south from Myrtle Beach and elsewhere. How bad is it? RICK REICHMUTH, FOX NEWS CHIEF METEOROLOGIST: Yes. The problem is it's going to be a really long during event and that's going to make all of the things that you are dealing with, the wind, the rain, the storm surge, all of it just lasts a lot longer and that exacerbates all of the problems you are going to deal with. So it is very real. I just want to put things into perspective for you. This is how big Sandy was, at least as far as the tropical storm force winds extended up, it was a thousand miles. Katrina, we know the damage that did and a tropical storm force winds extended out 400 miles from the center of that. Florence now, we've got tropical storm force winds that are extending out 390 miles. So, almost the same size as Katrina. And with all the damage that Katrina did, it came on shore as a category three, which is what Florence is now as well. Because it has been so strong for so long, earlier today there was a wave height measured of 84 feet in t he bottom right quadrant, the front right quadrant of the storm. All of that wave action is moving towards the shore and tomorrow it's going to slow down a lot and it's forward progression. Here's the ocean temperature. It's got to go still over the gulf stream right there, that's the warmest water is, so there's plenty of fuel there to at least maintain the category three strength and right now the forecast is it might come up just a little bit. Here's that problem that you are mentioning, Sean. That position there is tomorrow afternoon at 2 o'clock, there's Friday afternoon, there Saturday afternoon. Somewhere in here, this isn't going to move much more than probably say, 50 to 80 miles and because of that you are going to have maybe a 36-hour period where you've got hurricane force winds along the coast and storm surge that keeps on piling up. Going to Sunday and Monday, and finally this begins to go out of here, but because of this long-duration event we are going to be talking about some spots, a lot of spots I should say, five to 10 inches of rain and probably at the height we'll see a couple of areas, maybe 40 inches of rain. That's all water that gravity wants to pull it off shore and out into the ocean, but storm surge is going to be pushing all of the water towards the shore, 9 to 13 feet probably at the highest point, all that water going in. And because of that ongoing long period, we'll probably talk about two days, maybe five tide cycles or so, high tide cycles where we see that water pouring in, the water trying to get out. That's what we are so concerned about inland flooding here. And keep in mind, very mountainous terrain over the southern Appalachians and that water will cause lots of flooding as well. There are some spots in North Carolina including across parts of the Appalachians, as well as places like Wilmington, Sean. But they're at the wettest that they have ever been from the summer. So the ground is already saturated and that is before any of this water gets towards that. HANNITY: So you think around Myrtle Beach, Wilmington, goes a little south more towards Charleston but also write up the East Coast and you are saying that tropical force winds, rain-- REICHMUTH: Yes. HANNITY: -- all the way up through the East Coast, 1,000 miles up until New York and beyond? REICHMUTH: Well, I think probably eventually it pulls inland and then kind of goes up around the Ohio Valley, it may be exits out across parts of New England. So it's going to take a while before that happens and it won't be nearly as bad when it gets up towards the north. The biggest problem, certainly are going to be across parts of the south but we're not done with it in the south probably until Sunday. So that's why this is so concerning, so many days of this extreme weather. HANNITY: All right. I hope everyone heeds the warning. This is the real deal. Rick Reichmuth in the Fox News weather center. Thank you. REICHMUTH: You bet. HANNITY: And as hurricane Florence barrels towards the East Coast, sadly the left continues to try and politicize the storm. You can't make this up. Of course we have one newspaper saying, the Washington Times, Trump is complicit with a hurricane. That's how sick it's gotten. Listen to this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. LUIS GUTIERREZ (D), ILLINOIS: You want to know what I fear? The calamity because of the lack of coordination of the government with the National Guard and with local government, the lack of responsiveness and preparedness of this government because the president, he wants to find out who was the one that wrote that op-ed piece about the chaos in the White House, because he wants the Justice Department -- he is so consumed by the calamity that exists and the chaos that exist that he's not really prepared and focused because he spends every weekend golfing instead of preparing. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You know, you can't -- by the way, I'm so sorry to the Washington Times. I meant the Washington Post. There's a big difference. One is a national paper, the Washington Times and the Washington Post is basically a propaganda newspaper for the left wing. I apologize. Joining us now with reaction, author of the book "Why We Fight," Fox News national security strategist, Dr. Gorka, author of "The Geraldo Show," Fox News correspondent at large, Geraldo Rivera. For the Washington Post to say complicit and then go on to say, you know, further that when it comes to extreme weather Trumpet is complicit, he plays down human's role in increasing the risk, he continues to dismantle efforts to address those risks. Is Donald Trump, Donald J. Trump, our president, complicit because we have a hurricane about to hit the Carolinas, Geraldo Rivera. GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT AT LARGE: Well, Sean, I think that he is indeed complicit. I think he is also complicit in the stock market crash of 1929, not to mention the Manson murders. It's very clear that this man has his-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way, you had an exclusive with Manson. RIVERA: You know, the good thing about that story is it so painfully ridiculous. It is so contemptuously false that it reveals an attitude towards this president that absolutely corroborates what I have said since before he took office. He -- there has never been a president who has had a worse relationship with the press. Where everything he does is construed in the most evil way possible and where farcical notions like a president of less than two years being complicit in a storm barreling towards the Carolinas, this is a shameful attempt, really, to reveal -- what it does is reveal the dark heart of the Washington Post much more than anything about Donald Trump. HANNITY: You can add that to what we've been describing, and that is that if, you have a bunch of Trump haters in the deep state. All they have to do is make a phone call and it's going to get printed verbatim, nobody ever questions their methods. There's no -- I guess they can second source it because they can say talk to Lisa Page, and if Lisa Page leak it, talk to Peter Strzok, and then New York Times, Washington Post just published whatever lie, anti--Trump stream they want out there. RIVERA: It is so deep, this hatred of the president. It is really scary. We have had political division. Richard Nixon was an extremely unpopular president. I submit to you that Donald Trump is getting a worse ride by the press than even Richard Nixon. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I don't think I (Inaudible), Dr. Gorka? SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: Sean, there's a funny aspect to this story and then there's the serious side. The funny thing is -- I mean, this is the editorial board. This isn't one op-ed writer, this is the editorial board of the Washington Post that have just named Donald Trump Poseidon. He is so powerful that he is now responsible for hurricanes. I mean, the average American looks at that and they just laugh. They have made themselves a laughingstock and this is why fake news is real. But on the serious side, they don't believe what I know, what Geraldo knows, what you know, Sean. Donald Trump cares about one thing above all else, the safety of all Americans, especially those who are in the path of this hurricane. With the Washington Post did today, it's not journalism, Sean. HANNITY: It is going to be devastating. If you are in these coastal areas, please -- I don't say it often, pay your taxes and listen to your government officials here, there's going to be massive damage. There's going to be a risk to human life. Be careful, but no, no one person is complicit in creating a hurricane. I can't believe we are reporting it, but they did. All right. If you think that's bad, thank you both. The View's Joyless Behar saying God forbid President Trump lives another 20 years. We got the tape, reaction from Pam Bondi, Monica Crowley as this breaking news night continues. Please stay with us. HANNITY: All right. So the View's angry, Joyless Behar, she's at it again saying that she hopes President Trump doesn't live another 20 years. So nice and kind and thoughtful. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOY BEHAR, HOST, ABC: If he lived another 20 years, God forbid -- if he lives another 20 years, well, he could be like 105 by the time -- you know, we've got him here for the next-- (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Imagine it if a conservative said that about Obama. I wonder it gone over well. And in the next segment Behar try to walk back her comments and said she didn't wish the president ill. OK. Here with reaction from Florida. Florida Attorney General, Pam Bondi. From the London Center for Policy Research, Monica Crowley. You have this incident, Pam, out in San Francisco. Republican congressional candidate. Guy goes after him with a switchblade after saying horrible things about Republicans. And then I think of the rhetoric of Cory Booker, Maxine Waters, some other people, get in their faces, you know, encouraging what has happened to Sarah Sanders and her family, and Secretary Nielsen, and you. PAM BONDI, FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Yes. HANNITY: You know, do you connect the rhetoric with the actions of a few maniacs? BONDI: Well, it's this groupthink is so dangerous and that's what they promote and that's what they promoted that entire segment, you know. This was the perfect time for them to put aside their absolute hatred and disdain for our president and focus on a hurricane like you just did, a hurricane that is about to hit our coast. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: No, but he is complicit in creating the hurricane. Donald Trump is right up there. BONDI: It's unreal. HANNITY: He tells God I want to hurricane God and he combined, you know, made a hurricane. He has the forces of nature on his side. BONDI: And being from a peninsula state and dealing with hurricanes my entire life and as attorney general I know when Irma hit, when hurricanes have been -- Matthew have been towards Florida. President Trump was in constant contact with us making sure we were OK, making sure everything was good in our state. And that's what he's doing now with the rest of our country before hurricane Florence. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And it was kind of beautifully, yes, and even though, look, a lot of -- it was horrible, the loss of life. Two hurricanes back-to-back in Puerto Rico. MONICA CROWLEY, SENIOR FELLOW, LONDON CENTER FOR POLICY RESEARCH: Awful. HANNITY: Money doesn't solve the issues, but billions of dollars were spent in Puerto Rico and the infrastructure to begin with was horrific, Monica. We've got to try and build up infrastructure obviously ahead of time in cases like that. CROWLEY: Well, that's right, Sean. And you'll recall that candidate Trump campaigned very intensely on infrastructure and rebuilding sort of the internal structure of America. You know, watching that Joy Behar clip calls to mind Madonna saying she wanted to blow up the White House early on. You know, you have just a Broadway star saying, you know, where is John Wilkes booth when we need him? Kathy Griffin holding up the bloody Trump head and now Joy Behar wishing him dead. This is where you are in the country where we have extremely deep-seated pathology of hatred. And that come -- that comes-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Are you saying you don't believe the president is complicit in creating hurricanes? Are you really going to stand by that position tonight? CROWLEY: It is a deep-seated pathology, Sean, and it comes from the fact that Hollywood, the news media, academia. They lost control of steering the national narrative and it's causing tremendous frustration. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, let me ask this. What if somebody a conservative said there about Obama. Pam? BONDI: Sean, they spent eight minutes trashing the president, trashing him, calling him names. And right, what did President Obama do any differently during hurricanes? It's a natural disaster that hits our country and President Trump has been extremely involved. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: If it was said about Obama, -- Monica quick. CROWLEY: You wouldn't hear -- horrible, Sean. (CROSSTALK) BONDI: It's a little bit horrible. CROWLEY: I mean, that person would be ostracized from society forever. HANNITY: Yes. All right. BONDI: That's right. HANNITY: Thank you both. When we come back, actor Jon Voight his very emotional reaction when talking about President Trump in an interview with a great one. We've got that video for you straight ahead. HANNITY: Our friend, amazing actor, Jon Voight, he sat down with the great one Mark Levin for an interview. Got emotional when he talked about the president. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARK LEVIN, FOX NEWS HOST: Jon Voight, you were an early supporter of Donald Trump. How is he doing? JON VOIGHT, ACTOR: I met someone on the plane flying to make this appointment with you. A friend of mine, he's conservative, a woman actress, very good one. And I said, so what do you think about our man? She just did this. That's me crying. It was her, too. LEVIN: Why? VOIGHT: Because -- if so, first of all, the gesture was so beautiful. She couldn't even speak. She was just saying, thank God. And I said, thank God. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: A great patriot. Don't forget Mark's show Sundays at 10. Laura Ingraham, take it away. A big tonight. Load-Date: September 13, 2018 End of Document The New American Left: Agents of Hatred; Political Violence on the Left Against Republicans; Attacks Being Encouraged by Left-Wing Media; Rhetoric Violence and Violence Being Used by the Left as a Political Tool; Norm MacDonald's Guest Appearance Pulled from "The Tonight Show;" Hurricane Florence Threatens the Carolinas; Governor Mike Huckabee Criticizes Media Story of Trump Administration Shifting Funding from FEMA to ICE; Strength of U.S. Manufacturing Industry Examined Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 12, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7922 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Rick Leventhal, Matt Schlapp, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Rudy Peters, Steve Scalise, Jeffrey Lord, Rochelle Ritchie, Antjuan Seawright, Mike Huckabee, Steve Staub Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JON VOIGHT, ACTOR: -- so beautiful. She couldn't even speak. She was just saying, "thank god," and I say, "thank god." (END VIDEO CLIP) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Great patriot. Don't forget (inaudible) Sundays at 10:00. We are out of time. Laura Ingraham, take it away. Big show next. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX SHOW HOST: Hannity, I love Jon Voight and I got teared up watching that. HANNITY: Me too. INGRAHAM: And Levin does a great show. I love -- I miss that. I read about that, but thank you for showing it. HANNITY: I think you need to be a guest on his show. We are going to put you on there for an hour. INGRAHAM: When? Let's get it done. HANNITY: I did an hour. You got to do an hour. INGRAHAM: All right. And I miss being on your show. Can I come on your show sometime? Is that allowed still? Am I allowed to do that? HANNITY: I am allowed to work out with you. By the way, the left hates you so much. They are like, putting up pictures of you when you were 12 and saying, she was a horrible person at 12. INGRAHAM: Well, you know, it's the cost of doing battle, Hannity. What can I say? HANNITY: Welcome to the club. Welcome to the big time. Welcome to prime time. You made it. INGRAHAM: You warned me. Oh, we got a laugh through it all, Hannity. Thank so much and you had a great show tonight. Welcome to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE." I'm Laura Ingraham from Washington tonight. You're going to stay - - you'll want to stay for the full show. We have a lot to get to. The entire hour is going to be appointment viewing for you. We have something very important we want to tackle. The increasingly hostile tactics of the left, from demonization now to outright violence, and how it's harming the country. Governor Mike Huckabee, Jeff Lord, Matt Schlapp, Congressman Steve Scalise, and another important guest will join us. And tonight, Raymond Arroyo is here with a story of a comedian bounced from a late-night talk show for #MeToo comments, or was it something else he said? And Joe Biden producing a new series with social media giants, trying to tilt the midterm elections. "Seen and Unseen" straight ahead. And we're going to bring a live upgrade from the ground in North Carolina as Hurricane Florence, it's terrifying, bears down on the east coast. But first, The New American left: Agents of Hatred. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. In the wake of their humiliating defeat in 2016, and after Trump had called them all out for their disastrous policies, Democrats and their celebrity boosters were seething. Just 24 hours after the inauguration, this was their message. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MADONNA, SINGER: Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. ASHLEY JUDD, ACTRESS: We are here to be nasty! I am a nasty! ANGELA DAVIS, POLITICAL ACTIVIST: Over the next months and years, we will be called upon to intensify our demands for social justice, to become more militant in our defense of vulnerable populations. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Militant. I'll say. Fast-forward to today, when we are seeing a disturbing uptick in politically motivated violence, mostly from the left. Abusive behavior via language and in some cases physical attacks are visited upon people for no other reason except for the fact that they are conservative supporters of the president. Just this week, Karen Washington, a Trump supporter, announced a meet-up of fellow activists at a Trump hotel. Then someone using an anonymous twitter account with a handle Dream star justice (ph) responded with the image of a handgun and the message "I'm coming with a gun and I expect to get numerous bloodstains MAGrA hats as trophies." Though the account, which supported the far left Democratic socialists, has since been deleted, D.C. police and the FBI investigated the mass murder threat. Authorities are right to take these threats seriously. And over the weekend, a Republican congressional candidate in California, Rudy Peters, who will join us in just a moment, was in a booth at a fall festival when a man named Farzad Fazeli approached him. And angry Fazeli yelled profanities about President Trump and then rush the Republican candidate. Fazeli pulled out a switchblade, which he meant to use on Peters. Well, the knife thankfully malfunctioned and the candidate fought back. Fazeli has been charged with a felony count of making deadly threats and other misdemeanors. Now this all comes in the heels of a spate of vicious attacks over that summer where Trump officials and Republicans were targeted in public places. Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Pam Bondi, Homeland Security Chief Kirstjen Nielsen, and Stephen Miller were all set upon by activists. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: Shame! Shame! Shame! UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How can you enjoy the Mexican dinner as you're deporting and imprisoning tens of thousand of people who come here seeking asylum in the United States? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What would Mr. Rogers think about you and your legacy in Florida? Taking away health insurance from with people with pre-existing conditions Pam Bondi. Shame on you! Shame on you! Shame on you! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Even moderate Republicans, like Susan Collins, are subject to abuse. Collins' office on Capitol Hill has been slammed by calls to vote against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you care at all about women's choice, vote no on Kavanaugh, don't be a dumb (BLEEP) you also. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you vote for him you are standing up fackless, fackless, fackless woman, standing there and letting Trump and his appointees steal healthcare from millions of Americans, steal the right to choose what women do with their bodies. And you stood by that, oh, I didn't know, I am so naive (BLEEP) you. (BLEEP) you. (END AUDIO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Like the destructive antics of Antifa or the rioting that swamped Baltimore, you can always count on the left to justify aggression. This is MSNBC contributor Yamiche Alcindor. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) YAMICHE ALCINDOR, MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR: When you listen to those and having been on the campaign trail, it's the passion of people. It's obviously abusive and the language that is being used is abhorrent, but you also feel that they are talking about life-and-death issues. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, it's important to focus on the word but that she used. "It's abhorrent but life and death issues." In other words, as if to say the abuse coming from the left is almost justified, reading between the lines, as they like to say. Well that certainly what James Hodgkinson thought when he tried to assassinate Republican Steve Scalise at a baseball field in Virginia last year. The threats, the demonization, the violence, it is all of a piece. And by the way, Steve Scalise will join us in just a moment. Activists on the left have created basically a deadly ideology where harassment and even doing bodily harm has become essentially a legitimate tool of the resistance. This is Congresswoman Maxine Waters from this weekend. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: There are those who said that we lacked civility when I got up and talked about the president's cabinet -- just tell them, you're not welcome here anyway. (APPLAUSE) And so, it frightened a lot of people. And of course, the lying president said that I had threatened all his constituents. I did not threaten his constituents, his supporters. I do that all the time but I didn't do it that time. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It is just utterly disgraceful. It's not funny. You know why it's not funny? Because lives are now being endangered by reckless speech like this. It is not political debate. We are not debating the issues here. It is a conversation that goes one way. You are abhorrent, you are awful, you are like Hitler, you are a Nazi, and so we will destroy you by any means necessary. That is how the game goes. Well, I say it is time for the Democratic Party to not only condemn this hate speech but to repudiate his repeated political acts of terror before someone loses their life. Political battles on both sides, you bet, Republicans and Democrats should be limited to discourse and debate, and chirp, protest, that's fine. To allow this dangerous trend, though, to continue, of the kind of stuff we have been seeing, is going to take our republic and our politics to places we dare not go. And that's the "Angle." Joining us now with reaction, two men who have seen this violence face-to- face. The aforementioned Rudy Peters, the Republican congressional candidate from California attacked by a knife wielding Trump hater just on Sunday, along with House Majority Whip Steve Scalise. Of course, we all know over a year ago, Congressman Scalise himself was shot, has endured multiple surgeries during that congressional baseball game, not so far from where we are broadcasting tonight. Both of you, it is wonderful to see you for this very important topic. Rudy, I want to start with you then we're going to go to Congressman Scalise. Tell us very briefly what happened on Sunday that all Americans must know, given the tenor of this debate and discourse today. RUDY PETERS, REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE: Thanks for having me Laura. Sunday was just another day the fair and the street fair, wonderful people in Castro Valley, great job by the chamber. I had another gentleman running for assembly district 20 here in California with me. All of a sudden we are sitting behind the table, it's late in the evening and we hear somebody screaming, "F you, Donald Trump. F you Donald Trump." We kind of look up from the table. He's got his middle finger extended and he is walking by our booth and we pretty much didn't say a word, just watched him walk by, kind of keep an eye on him. The next thing we know, he stops, turns around and says, "I'll show you," and he pretty much bum rushes the table. On our table, we had a coffee cup that had flags and pens. We were reregistering Alameda County voters. As he picks up the coffee cup, I kind of get away from the table, and start going around to the front of the table. He picks up the coffee cup, rears his back, throws it at us, misses it, hits the ground, breaks us. We are pretty much chest to chest at this time. I grabbed him, threw him to the ground, I don't strike him. I don't even fall on top of him. I'm just standing over him and backing up. He had a beer in his hand in glass bottle and people are screaming, children are screaming. It is pretty crowded with family. And he jumps immediately up, reaches in his pocket, pulls out a knife, and he's got it over his head, and he is screaming, "I'm going to kill you." So he's glancing in a circle, and I can see his thumb trying to get the blade. He's pushing on the butt to try to get the blade to come out. So at that point, I'm pretty much fearing for my life. So, I just looked around and grab kind of a sign at another vendor's booth, a little plastic kind of like a sandwich board sign and held it up because I thought -- INGRAHAM: And you pushed him back? PETERS: --, you know, when this lunatic gets, you know, this knife out, he's going to kill me. INGRAHAM: Unbelievable. PETERS: So, somebody finally screamed and yelled and it stopped and he turned around and left and I went back to my booth and -- INGRAHAM: This is insane. I mean, Rudy, this is insane. First of all, we are so glad you are safe. Glad the switchblade was not operating or he didn't know how to operate it. But Congressman Scalise, of course, I thought about you, the first moment I heard about this, read about it, I thought about you, and everything you and your family have gone through over this past year. Your reaction to this entire trajectory since last year to today, given what has happened? REP. STEVE SCALISE (R), LOUISIANAL: Laura, first, it's great to be back with you, and there is no place for this in American politics. The foundation of this country is about free and open debate. We encourage it. We ultimately placed into the Bill of Rights the first amendment to allow people the freedom of speech, to even criticize their government, but not to resort to violence. We actually resolve our political differences at the ballot box in America. That is what we have always been about. And this violence, the insightfulness, the call to arms in essence amongst liberals, has to stop. INGRAHAM: Well, the left is saying, Congressman Scalise that, well, Donald Trump started this. It's his divisive rhetoric, it's a life or death situation for Americans, we're going to lose our health care, women are going to lose their right to abortion. It's a life-and-death situation. Well, we don't want you to resort to violence, but, as Maxine Waters said push them back, find them where they are, go to restaurants, gas stations, essentially don't let people operate, like Rudy was doing, in public. SCALISE: There is no but to that sentence and you pointed that out, Laura. But look, with this president -- when Donald Trump ran for office, he promised that he would actually fight for those forgotten men and women. There were millions of Americans that had been left behind, that weren't even part of the American dream because they had been discarded by the previous administration with a horrible economy, with crazy regulation, things that were killing manufacturing in our country. And you literally saw parts of our country being eviscerated. The middle class was being eviscerated. And Donald Trump ran and said, I'm going to stand up for you. INGRAHAM: They don't care. SCALISE: And his policies are actually following through. INGRAHAM: But they don't care. Congressman, they, the left -- SCALISE: Nobody understand that. INGRAHAM: -- and way too many of the Democrats -- Eric Swalwell came out in a tweet and he condemned the violence toward Mr. Peters. So that is good. We haven't heard very much -- SCALISE: We need to see more of that. INGRAHAM: Yes, we haven't seen much with Maxine Waters -- SCALISE: All Democrat leaders, yes -- INGRAHAM: -- and Schumer and Pelosi, where are they? We have a congressional candidate being attacked with a switchblade, yelling "F Trump" and we're just, let's go, this is another day. And you were almost killed SCALISE: They really need to be called on to call out this kind of violence. If this was going on the right, you know what would happen, Laura. Every mainstream media outlet would be reporting this, calling on each one of us, they'd have microphones in our faces, would you denounce it? And you know what, I would denounce it. I denounce anything that happens on either side but you don't see about enough from the left and it needs to happen more, but they need to be challenged. You know, where are these liberal talk show hosts that yell and scream and rant and rave, if their incitement is actually leading somebody to go and commit violence? That is not what this country is about. INGRAHAM: It is by any means necessary. And everyone watching tonight, you have to understand that we're at not for a switchblade not operating, Mr. Peters having the wherewithal and the physical strength to push this guy back, you might have had your throat slit. And Congressman Scalise, you came very close to dying and it could have been a mass slaughter at the baseball game. That was politically motivated. I do not think it was adequately covered as such, as political violence by the American media. I am very upset about what is going on. And Republicans have to be careful with their rhetoric, the president, everybody has got to take it down a notch. It is way too hot, and debate is great but this is obscene, what is happening. Mr. Peters, a student group opposed to a speaker on college campuses, you think about what happens at Berkeley and so forth, check this out. Do you agree or disagree that the student group's actions are acceptable if they resort to violence to prevent a speaker from speaking? Eighty-one percent disagree that the student groups actions are acceptable. That's a good, you know, that is a good deal. They shouldn't be violent. I think young people, frankly, with their head screwed on straight, most of them know that. Rudy, close it out. PETERS: Yes, exactly. This gentleman was 35 years old. He's not a child. We didn't see him earlier in the day. It is not like we had a dialogue or an issue or a conflict where he discussed some policy issues or stances. I don't know what was in his mind, but you know, the latest report is his mother was with the Democratic club group there in that area and -- INGRAHAM: Now Rudy, we are out of time, but I'll tell you what it is. I don't mean to interrupt you. Let's make it really clear and Congressman Scalise knows this. This is hatred toward Donald Trump and his agenda. That is it. It's not about the country getting better. It is not about blue-collar workers, wages going up, opportunities for African-Americans. It is destroy him by any means necessary, using any tools, legitimate, illegitimate, most of them just do not care at this point. That's how bad it's gone. SCALISE: And (inaudible) of democracy too, Laura. They don't respect the things of this country is founded upon. INGRAHAM: Good point. All right, gentlemen, thank you so much tonight. And joining us now to consider the political calculus of these tactics is Jeffrey Lord, contributing editor to the Americans Spectator, along with former press secretary for the House Democratic Policy and Communications Committee, Rochelle Ritchie. Rochelle, I want you to chime in first because we are getting way too close to someone losing his or her life because they stand for a political issue. Your reaction to what happened to Rudy Peters, and this call to such a militant, forceful, aggressive stance in public against people, that people are taking this to the wrong and violent levels. Your reaction? ROCHELLE RITCHIE, FORMER PRESS SECRETARY, HOUSE DEMOCRATIC POLICY AND COMMUNICATIONS COMMITTEE: Well, I think what happened to Peters was completely disgusting and it is extremely unfortunate and I remember, you know, being a press secretary at the House when Representative Scalise was actually shot and it was really heartbreaking for everybody on the Hill, whether you were Republican or Democrat. And I agree with what you said earlier before coming to me, is that, you know, we do have to turn down the rhetoric. And that is clearly on both sides. And I'll be the first to say that I don't think that this is okay for any elected official to promote any kind of violence, whether you are telling people to be punched in the face or whether you are telling people to be followed and harassed because what happened -- INGRAHAM: So you are condemning Maxine Waters. I know you are hating Trump for what he said in 2016 in the campaign trail. Are you condemning Maxine Waters? RITCHIE: I do not agree that people should be followed and harassed. I certainly do not. INGRAHAM: All right. OK. All right, well, that's interesting. Jeffrey, your reaction tonight? JEFFREY LORD, CONTRIBUTING EDITOR, AMERICAN SPECTATOR: Well, this is disgusting, Laura, and this is a very, very important conversation to be having here. This is what the American left has been over decades and, you know, the topic had changed. They were doing some of these kinds of things, smashing windows in Seattle to protest world trade, and then doing it again another 12 years later or 13 years later to protest occupy Wall Street. This has been going on and on and on and frankly, leaders in the Democratic Party have got to stand up and rein this in. I mean, we have gone from a Democratic Party where Franklin Roosevelt campaigned on the forgotten men and JFK saying ask what you can do for your country to people just shrugging their shoulders as people go out and commit all kinds of violence and taking a good laugh at Maxine Waters. I mean, it is pathetic. It is pathetic and it has got to stop or somebody is going to get hurt and Steve Scalise was already hurt. RITCHIE: Can I say that this is not anything that is just Republican and Democrat because we have to remember what happened to Gabby Giffords as well. This is people that are extreme in their tactics, and extreme in taking violence -- INGRAHAM: So you are talking about Jared -- well, I can't member his name, Jared Loughner. It was initially reported that he was a conservative talk radio listener. False. He was not. This was not -- I believe -- Jeff, correct me if I'm wrong, it was not politically motivated. He was a nut job. LORD: Right. INGRAHAM: OK, very different (inaudible) violence, period. Condemn it obviously. RITCHIE: Right. INGRAHAM: That was not related to political resistance. We are talking about weaponizing political resistance. Jeffrey, last word. LORD: Yes, this has got to stop and the thing that I am concerned about is precisely because President Trump was a businessman with all these properties all over the country in the world, they are easy targets, and I think that we've to bring this stuff in and rein the rhetoric about Donald Trump in period. INGRAHAM: I think we found some common ground. Rochelle, Jeffrey, its great to have you both on tonight. I have a question. How are Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton co-opting the tactics of this resistance? Not an encouraging violence but maybe in perpetrating untruths. We'll tell you next. INGRAHAM: It is bad enough that Democrats are trying to sell as much discord as possible, leading up to the midterms. But now they are reverting to one of their tried-and-true tactics, willfully deceiving their supporters. One of the latest examples, the appalling smears of Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. Hillary Clinton is following in Senator Kamala Harris' footsteps on twitter, parroting these wildly out of context comments from Judge Kavanaugh on abortion even after they have been exposed as lies. And former President Obama hitting President Trump over his attacks on the press. That's funny. Hypocrisy, galling. In fact, the "Associated Press" even published a fact-check showcasing the Obama administration's brute force response over leaks to the media. Joining us now with reaction is Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union, along with Democratic strategist Antjuan Seawright. I wish you guys were both here. It is so lonely in the studio. Neither of you are here. All right, Antjuan let's start with you. This deal with Brett Kavanaugh, OK. I know people can do this. They can exaggerate claims and so forth, but when it comes to this particular criticism of Kavanaugh, it really is ridiculous. They tried to paint him as someone who was saying that there is a particular abortion drug that was (inaudible) patient, but he was merely quoting the group Priests for Life. He wasn't saying that it was his opinion. He was summarizing the petitioner's argument in a particular brief he was referencing. But that is not what Kamala Harris said and Hillary Clinton in her tweet said the following, she said, "Kavanaugh didn't use -- no (inaudible)first one. "I want to be sure we are clear about something, that Brett Kavanaugh sat in his confirmation hearings. He referred to birth control pills as abortion and inducing drugs. That set off an alarm bell for me and it should for you, too." Basically later on, saying it's a dog whistle to the right. Do you agree that Hillary Clinton completely mischaracterized, willfully mischaracterized what Kavanaugh said? ANTJUAN SEAWRIGHT, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well, I won't say that I agree with that notion. What I will say is that I agree that people sometimes have their own way of interpreting things as they hear them or read them. But the bottom line is, the general context was Senator Harris was making and what Secretary Clinton was making. They were trying to inform the public, the dangerous road we are going down when we are on this road to confirming a judge to the highest court in the land for a lifetime. And I think what they are doing is drawing some real- life examples of why he would be dangerous to women's rights and for the future. INGRAHAM: OK, so real-life example would not, I imagine, include purposeful distortion of what Judge Kavanaugh actually wrote in an opinion. Matt Schlapp, I find this, of all the things to criticize Kavanaugh -- and I've known him for 30 years, full disclosure -- an incredibly impressive person on every level. An AVA, the gold standard suddenly out the window, supremely well-qualified as what they viewed his tenure as on the district -- the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals. But is this where we are now? It's get by any means necessary? If you have to lie about them, do it, because you got to stop his nomination. MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: Yes, this is where we are and you know what, it is sad. I was thinking about -- I was a little bit of a geeky kid, Laura, and I would watch all these confirmation hearings for all these previous nominees to the Supreme Court, and I don't like all these liberal senators but they would ask real, substantive questions, and it didn't always play fair. But we had a national conversation about, you know, where we wanted the court to be and where we wanted the constitution to be in our society. You know, you can have a conversation about Roe v. Wade. I would like to overturn it but you know what, I have known Brett a long time. I have no idea what he's going to do on the Supreme Court when it comes to Roe v. Wade. Let's have that discussion. But to act like Brett Kavanaugh said anything about his jurisprudence on birth control at the hearing is a lie. So when they go that far, when they tweeted out, and they make it seem so simple, when it's actually very complicated, I think they do a great disservice to all of us because I actually would like to have meaty conversations about these constitutional questions. I think it would be good for America. SEAWRIGHT: Matt, you say you want to have meaningful conversations but remember, it was your party who would not give President Obama's nominee a hearing to even start the conversation. SCHLAPP: Yes, and it was a wonderful decision. I love that decision. SEAWRIGHT: Of course you are. And that is a prime example of hypocrisy at its best. The second thing I would say, you know how important -- Your party doesn't run the Senate now, Antjuan, you don't get to determine when the hearings are. (CROSSTALK) SEAWRIGHT: I am highlighting hypocrisy of your party who would not even give President Obama's nominee a hearing, who Democrats and Republicans agree, who was a well-qualified for the bench. INGRAHAM: Right. Well, Antjuan, you are too young to remember all of this, but I remember a time where George H.W. Bush -- I was in law school -- in one of my former law professors, (inaudible) was on a long list of Court of Appeals nominees who were just waiting for a vote. And when Bill Clinton came in, what did he do? I mean, they just stalled and stalled and stalled -- SCHLAPP: In combination with Joe Biden in the senate. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: What is good with the goose is good for the gander. On the scheduling issue, Republicans have suffered from that and Democrats have suffered from the scheduling -- (CROSSTALK) But we are talking, Antjuan, about an actual confirmation hearing where serious issues are discussed and individuals aren't maligned, either personally or purposely using false smears. That is just not cool on any side. SEAWRIGHT: Laura, I am all for having a conversation about the nominee and their background. I will tell you like I tell everyone. I have concerns about his history on voter I.D. and his thoughts on Obamacare. But at the end of the day, you all want -- you and Matt want to talk about the smearing and the rhetoric that comes from certain folks in our party. Look, the Republican Party thrives on misinformation and lies at this point That is why Donald Trump base is so popular right now. INGRAHAM: So Obama and Hillary are back by popular demand, leading the charge for the midterms, both of them are out, fanning out. But for Barack Obama to come out and to trash Donald Trump for being tough on the press, I mean, let's not forget what he did with the -- was it the sedition act, and going after all these reporters? Espionage act, excuse me, going after all these leaks, whistleblowers, and stuff, James Rosen. This was brutal for reporters. He even got a fact-check for that. SCHLAPP: Totally. There were more constitutional over steps under Obama than we have seen in any other modern presidency. SEAWRIGHT: Matt. SCHLAPP: Antjuan, I'm talking now, my friend. I love your voice but I am talking. SEAWRIGHT: I love hearing yours, too, only the truth, though. SCHLAPP: And I hope your family is safe down there, by the way. SEAWRIGHT: Thank you. SCHLAPP: But seriously, Obama is trying to have it every which way. He comes out and says, what is Trump doing trumpeting this big economy, it's actually my economy. And then on the other step, he is saying, actually the economy isn't that solid. I think the American people are smart. I think the American people get it. Sometimes Republicans look foolish when they try to be too clever. And sometimes Democrats do, too. And I think the American people are smart. Political candidates and parties will be rewarded when they shoot straight. By the way, that is why Donald Trump is being rewarded. SEAWRIGHT: No, that's why his poll numbers are in the tank and on life support. INGRAHAM: OK, we are out of time, though. But remember, "The New York Times" editorial board, no big friend of conservatives, said the Obama administration has moved beyond protecting government secrets to threatening fundamental freedoms of the press to gather news. That was from "The New York Times." So I guess it's -- depending on whose ox is being gored here. Guys, thanks so much for joining us tonight. And coming up, comedian Norm MacDonald gets bumped from "The Tonight Show." Might politics have played a role. And what common device that you might use in the bathroom could make you really sick. All that with Raymond Arroyo, "Seen and Unseen" next. INGRAHAM: It's time for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we explore some of big cultural stories of the day. Comedian Norm MacDonald had a tonight show appearance nixed after some controversial remarks on the Me Too movement. But that is far from the whole story. Joining us now with more is Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series. Raymond, I know how the Fallon show canceled Norm MacDonald. Don't know why. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: NBC says they did it out of sensitivity of the audience. Norm MacDonald did an interview about this new Netflix talk show he is doing, David Letterman is producing. This is hardly a conservative talk show at all. However, he is promoting it and he made comments about the Me Too movement and his friend Roseanne and Louis C.K. And here's what he said. He said, "I'm happy that Me Too movement has slowed down a bit. It used to be 100 women can't be lying. Then it became one woman can't lie. And that became, I believe all women. And then you're like what, like that Chris Hardwick guy? I really thought got the blunt end of the stick there." He went on to say, unlike the victims, his friends, the comedians, suffered more than the victims' did. That he had to apologize for. INGRAHAM: Not a good comment. ARROYO: That was over the line. However, there might be another reason that Fallon and "The Tonight Show," -- Jimmy Fallon went to Norm MacDonald and said my producers are in the other room crying so you can't come in the show. He said something about his talk show as opposed to the ones that are already on the air. This is what he said. This might explain his cancellation as well. He said "Ever since Jon Stewart, late night hosts have been forced to become political pundits even down to Jimmy Fallon. And he is derided for his treatment of Donald Trump. And then to be maligned for quote-unquote humanizing Trump, funny. I thought he was human. If you have a nominee for president on your show and he is your guest, then he is your guest." INGRAHAM: Fallon had to apologize for having Trump on, basically, right? ARROYO: Right. Remember, he messed up his hair. They say he humanized him. But when we've reached a point where seeing that a president is human, and that's controversial, we really reached a low point. Whether you are watching this Norm MacDonald show or not, Laura, there is a new series on Instagram TV. I know you -- INGRAHAM: I don't even know what that is. ARROYO: Instagram, it's there new TV service. It's called "Here's the Deal," and it's a 10-episode issues-driven show designed to spur young Americans to vote in the midterms. Who would you think would host such a show, Laura? INGRAHAM: They asked me and I said no, I'm already busy. ARROYO: They found the perfect host to attract those young voters, vice president Joe Biden. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: Folks, with less than 100 days until the most consequential election of our lifetime, we have got to keep our eye and the ball. That's why I'm partnering with Attention on IGTV to breakdown the issues we all should be voting on this fall. Not complicated policy wonk language or confusing acronyms. Just facts. At least as I see them. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: I think the upper palate is slipping. INGRAHAM: Did he say acronyms? ARROYO: How is this going to attract young voters? I feel like he's about to sell me a reverse mortgage. INGRAHAM: He's not going to be talking about Democratic dating. He's going to be talking about carbon dating. (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: For a moment, I thought he was selling his shares for retirement. But anyway, he went on to talk about one of your favorite issues that will get the young people out to the polls, immigration. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: For centuries, our tradition of welcoming immigrants from around the world has given us this tremendous advantage, we've gotten the best of every nation. We do need to control our border. Every country needs to control their border. But that does not require ripping infants and children from the arms of their parents. This administration has to stop using immigration as a political tool to divide us into us and them. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Laura, if you're going to do political punditry on Instagram TV, where is the Newt Gingrich Channel, the Dick Cheney channel? Have balance. INGRAHAM: It's all leftwing. These things are all leftwing. They always have been. Social media has been dominated by the left. ARROYO: FOX Nation is coming. INGRAHAM: All right, here we come. ARROYO: Very quickly, the spreading of disease, Laura, in your public bathroom. A new study -- you know those jet spray -- INGRAHAM: I don't like those jet sprays. ARROYO: It is kind of a cauldron of water. They did a study, "The Journal of Hospital Infection." These are supposedly hygienic. You know what they do? The aerosol bacteria, feces, and, wait for it, e coli into the air. You are actually getting a face full of this stuff. INGRAHAM: The new facial. ARROYO: It covers the surfaces. That is one way -- INGRAHAM: Wait a second, did you say "The Journal of Hospital Infection"? Where's my subscription? Who the heck subscribes to that? ARROYO: When you are crawling in somebody else's feces and e coli, don't use those things there. Here, I'm giving you paper towels. Don't use those jet sprays. They're bad, right in your face. It's horrible. INGRAHAM: No, no, this is news you can use. Is that the unseen? ARROYO: That is the unseen. INGRAHAM: Unseen bacteria. ARROYO: The unseen is the e. coli growing. INGRAHAM: All right, well, the east coast is bracing -- which is not funny -- for hurricane Florence and its impact. We are going live to the North Carolina coast with the last-minute prep there, and evacuations are underway, next. INGRAHAM: This is a FOX News alert. Hurricane Florence is now just 330 miles from the Carolina coastlines, the storm packing soaking rains, high winds, and a punishing storm surge as the initial band starts to hit the east coast. Let's go to FOX News senior correspondent Rick Leventhal live on the ground in Wrightsville Beach, North Carolina. Rick? RICK LEVENTHAL, FOX NEWS SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: And Laura, it's not here yet. What we have instead is a very eerie and surreal quiet. Wrightsville Beach is empty tonight. The lights are on, but nobody's home. The only thing we can hear is the ocean. There have been no vehicles on the roads, no people on the sidewalks. This is the main parking area, that is the fishing pier right there, completely empty, completely quiet. The main drag, north- south, right there. We saw one vehicle. Let's go back in here, we saw one vehicle with a police car, and they came over and told us, get out of the street, get back in our property. We could stay as long as we stated in the property. There was a mandatory evacuation order. They closed the bridge to Wrightsville Beach at 8:00 so no one else is allowed in here. People can leave if they want to, Laura, but no one can get back in. They think things are going to start getting bad here sometime tomorrow afternoon into tomorrow night. And then of course, Friday, all day, financial hurricane- force went into Saturday. And the storm surge could be well over our heads where we're standing here if that holds true to that nine to 13 feet prediction. So Wrightsville beach is relatively empty. There are some people here potentially trying to ride this thing out. But if they want to get out, they still can. But time is running out. INGRAHAM: Rick, thank you so much, and stay very safe out there. The media and Democrats are wasting no time using hurricane Florence as a political hammer to give them, believe it or not -- of course you can believe it -- against President Trump. It started last night when MSNBC trumpeted a supposed bombshell documentary obtained by Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RACHEL MADDOW, MSNBC HOST: What this document indicates and what Homeland Security is confirming to us tonight is that nearly $10 million has been taken out of the budget of the FEMA right in advance of hurricane season and instead transferred to ICE for what appears to be detention programs for immigrants. SEN. JEFF MERKLEY, (D) OREGON: We are going from the horrendous policy of ripping children out of their parent's arms, and of course we are still trying to unify all those families, to a new strategy of building internment camps that would be funded through the same account that these funds would go to through ICE. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That does sound like a bombshell and pretty damning, doesn't it. One little problem. It's not true. Homeland Security says that under no circumstances were any disaster relief funding transferred from FEMA to immigration enforcement efforts. FEMA's spokesperson further stated on Twitter that, quote, "After calling Senator Jeff Merkley's staff to inform them of the facts surrounding FEMA budget, we were told it is a TV hit. You take it where you can. Regardless of the facts?" Unbelievable. Joining us now with reaction is former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee. Mike, the whole show has been tonight about how low can they go. Remember, Michelle Obama says, when they go low, we go high. That was great, I loved that sentiment. Unfortunately, we keep going lower, and now playing politics with this absurdly dangerous hurricane, and lying. Your reaction tonight? MIKE HUCKABEE, FORMER ARKANSAS GOVERNOR: It gets worse, though, Laura. MSNBC is still running that same story tonight even after it's been discredited. After it's been totally debunked they are still running with it. So it tells you that the facts don't matter. It's all about the politics. When you have guys like Joe Scarborough saying that President Trump has done more damage to America than the airplanes that flew into the buildings on 9/11, can you imagine what would have been said of a conservative if they said that Barack Obama had done more damage to the country then 9/11 when 3,000 souls were murdered in cold blood? I mean, I can't even begin to get my arms around what that would have been like. So we are dealing with not only the left, but we are dealing with the media that supports it and that is complicit in this kind of outrageous rhetoric against the president and anyone who supports them. INGRAHAM: Speaking of that word, governor, complicit, this is a headline from "The Washington Post" op-ed by the editorial board. "Another hurricane is about to better our coast. Trump is complicit." Is he actually blowing the winds from the east Atlantic? This is now -- I don't even -- I have lost words to describe how absolutely pathetic, and they are out of ideas, they are out of solutions, this is all the Bezos "Post" has apparently. HUCKABEE: This is what you find when people are reduced to howling at the moon. And what we basically are seeing with the press is that they cannot stop people from supporting the president, they cannot stop his policies from working with high employment, with low unemployment, with pay raises and bonuses and businesses coming back and manufacturing returning. INGRAHAM: Do you think they want the economy to recover? HUCKABEE: And they cannot stand it. INGRAHAM: Governor, I'm sorry to interrupt. Do you think they really want the country to succeed? Look at what is happening with blue-collar jobs and wages. This should be a moment of rare unity, frankly, for the country. Do you think they want it to succeed? HUCKABEE: No, they don't. Bill Maher was pretty honest when he said he hopes there is a recession, that it crashes the economy. He says that's the only way we can get rid of Donald Trump. He was at least honest about it. The others just aren't. When Barack Obama was president, I didn't like his policies, but I didn't like them because of what they were doing to America. If they had worked and if we had a bunch of people that were prospering under the president, when Obama was there, I wouldn't have complained about it. I would have said, hey, maybe we're wrong, good for him. I even said that when he was first elected, that I hoped he was successful. And I meant it. But we don't have that from the left right now, and we don't have it from the press, but then again, I repeat myself. INGRAHAM: Governor Huckabee, it's great to have you on tonight. Thank you so much. And by the way, you've heard from the pollsters, you've heard from the pundits, and of course the Trump haters. But do you really hear enough from real America? Up next, we take you to Ohio where a small businessman tells us what the experts are missing about this economy. Stay there. INGRAHAM: The economy just keeps booming. You keep thinking it can't get higher, well, guess what. The Census Bureau revealed that middle-class income hit an all-time high of $61,372 last year. Yet no matter how much good news there is about wages, jobs, or unemployment, nothing can satisfy President Trump's haters. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JACOB SOBOROFF, MSNBC CORRESPONDENT: People are all still looking for good jobs, so to hear the president think that talking about how strong the economy is is going to help him win these midterm districts is foolish. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It's foolish. The economy, it can't be that great. A lot of these people don't have jobs. Brilliant analysis as always. Let's just turn off that noise for a few moments and here from an actual American who is reaping the fruits of this great economy. Joining us now is it Steve Staub. He's the president of Staub Manufacturing Solutions in Dayton, Ohio. Steve, it's great to have you here. And you actually are a working class American, and you beg to differ with Mr. Soboroff who basically says, waives it off. It is not all that great. I wouldn't run on this economy. Steve? STEVE STAUB, STAUB MANUFACTURING SOLUTIONS: That is not what we are seeing here in manufacturing in Dayton, Ohio. Thanks for having me here. Just here in the Dayton area we have over 4,000 jobs available in the manufacturing industry that we can't fill. INGRAHAM: So you have 4,000 openings. That means people even without special skills can start at a wage of I believe about $15 an hour. And so you don't have to go to college, you can get on the job training. That is just fantastic news for the country. We need more workers and more people willing to work for these jobs. STAUB: We do. And the manufacturing industry throughout the United States is over half a million jobs available today. Many companies like us, we pay for education with a starting wage of $15 an hour. And if you need further training, we'll send you to a school or send you to a training program to get the skills you need. INGRAHAM: Explain what the economy is like for your company today versus, let's say, five years ago. STAUB: Five years ago, we were struggling. The entire industry was struggling at the time. Just as recent as the end of 2016 we had just over 20 people. It had like, 23 people. Today we have 41 people. We have seen the industry overall growing, and the optimism throughout the industry. There was a survey not too long ago by the National Association of Manufacturers that showed over a 95 percent optimism in that manufacturing industry for the growth of the industry. It's exciting times. INGRAHAM: It's really exciting. And it stands in sharp contrast to what President Obama said back in June of 2016. Let's take a walk down memory lane together, Steve. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: Some of those jobs of the past are just not going to come back. He just says, I'm going to negotiate a better deal. Well, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is he doesn't have an answer. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Steve, your reaction? (LAUGHTER) STAUB: I remember that. I'm excited to see their jobs have come back. I'm excited to see policies that are coming out of the administration that are beneficial to the manufacturing industry and beneficial to the country as a whole and helping our industry grow. INGRAHAM: Do you hope the Republicans and Democrats can come together and keep this economy going? Or are you hoping for a blue wave? STAUB: I don't see politics in the manufacturing industry. There really shouldn't be. The only red or blue in the industry is the flag that flies on every shop floor. INGRAHAM: God bless you. I love that sentiment. We need more of it. Steve, thanks so much, and congrats on a great, great turnout for your company. Keep it going. And coming up, Joy Behar shoots her mouth off again and immediately regrets her decision. The last bite next. INGRAHAM: It's time now for the last bite. Joy Behar of "The View" is at it again. We are used to her unhinged political rants, but today she somehow managed to outdo herself. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": They show them the facts, he disputes it, he lies. He's a sociopath. If he lives another 20 years, God forbid -- not that. If he loves another 20 years, he could be like, 105. I don't wish the president now. I really don't. I just want him out. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And Trump is the sociopath, the problem? OK, it's a rare moment of self-awareness. Congrats, Joy. The name Joy just brings Joy, doesn't it? That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the fantastic "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team are up next. Load-Date: September 13, 2018 End of Document Scarborough's New Low; Sara Carter Obtains New Strzok-Page Texts; One- on-One With Eric Trump; Eric Trump Says Democrats and Mainstream Media Were Completely Silent When His Father, President Trump Proved that He Can Make the Economy Better and Even Exceed What Others Have Estimated; Former Trump Campaign Aide, George Papadopoulos, Has Explained How His Name Got Involved into the Russia Collusion Story But He's Willing to Straighten Out the Facts and Accept Whatever the Consequences; Benghazi Survivors and the American People Were Furious after Former President Obama Said that the Benghazi Attack is Just a Conspiracy Theory by the Republican Party Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 11, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8004 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Sebastian Gorka, Jason Chaffetz, Rick Reichmuth Guests: Eric Trump, George Papadopoulos, Simona Papadopoulos Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: How about more enthusiastic? HANNITY is next, great big breaking news today. That would be better. All right. Tucker, great job. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Cancel your plans. Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Well, everybody is welcome into our house. We love that you are here. Thank you for joining us. Welcome to HANNITY. Today did mark the 70th anniversary of the September 11th, 2001 attacks on this country. This morning, President Trump, he visited Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where a new monument has been erected for those brave passengers, the crew of Flight 93. Remember, let's roll? They fought back, ultimately crashing that plane into a remote field. And coming up tonight, we will show you the president's powerful remarks earlier in Pennsylvania. And it is the sixth anniversary of what was the horrific Benghazi terror attack and Obama is trying to say, oh, that was a conspiracy. It didn't go down the way we know. He's trying to rewrite history. We have the evidence. In a few minutes, we'll respond to the former president, a Hannity mini-monologue. Also, a new low if it's possible for liberal "Morning Joe" Scarborough. He used today's somber anniversary to call Trump's presidency worse than the 9/11 attacks. We will respond to MSNBC's pathetic morning show host. Also tonight, major breaking news surrounding the deep state. We now have tonight just uncovered literally about an hour ago, brand-new text between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. We were right, and I look like yes, high- ranking officials in the DOJ and FBI worked together to leak false Russian information to you, the American people to destroy then-President Trump, like they did before the election with the phony FISA. You're going to see these damning new texts. And only 56 days to go until the most important midterm in your life, and I do have an urgent warning to you. Come November, everything is at stake. All of that, plus Eric Trump joins us in a few minutes and I have an exclusive interview with George Papadopoulos and his wife Simona. But that's coming up later. First, tonight's breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: Hard to believe, but 17 years ago today we were attacked like never before right here on American soil. All told, 2,977 innocent men and women and children lost their lives at the hands of pure evil in our lifetime, fulfilling what they think is there evil ideology designed by evil man by the name of Osama bin Laden. Now, some of the finest people on earth were senselessly killed. Good, hardworking people in the World Trade Center, first responders, police, over 300 firemen. While everybody was washing down, they rushed into those burning towers. Many others in the Pentagon, the passengers, the crew of the planes that were brutally hijacked and used as weapons of war, including the brave men and women on Flight 93, they fought back against their attackers -- let's roll -- causing that plane to crash in a remote field in Pennsylvania, miles away from what we believe was their intended target in Washington, D.C. Today, President Trump visited a brand-new monument honoring those brave American souls and he delivered these powerful remarks. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: All of America wraps up and joins together. We close our arms to help you shoulder your pain and to carry your great, great sorrow. Your tears are not shed alone, for they are shared grief with an entire nation. We grief together for every mother and father, sister and brother, son and daughter who was stolen from us at the Twin Towers, the Pentagon and here in this Pennsylvania field. We honor their sacrifice by pledging to never flinch in the face of evil and to do whatever it takes to keep America safe. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, tonight, as we honor all of those who lost their lives 17 years ago today, we must never forget the danger of radical Islamic terrorism is real, it is always lurking, they are, they were at war with us. We were not at war with them. We better be prepared and we better accept that sad but true reality. Meanwhile, one particularly unhinged -- while MSNBC conspiracy TV morning host seems to have really forgotten just how devastating 9/11/2001 was. Yes, good old liberal Joe put out a new op-ed. He put it in "The Washington Post." It's entitled: Trump is harming the dream of America more than any foreign adversary ever could. Yesterday, the day before 9/11, literally, he's promoting this absurd article and he sends out a tweet that reads, quote: My latest, Trump is damaging the dream of America more than any terrorist attack ever could. And according to the tweet and that op-ed, Joe Scarborough thinks Trump is worse than 9/11 where we lost nearly 3,000 people. Yes, the economy has turned around, Joe. People have jobs. Four million fewer people on food stamps, 4 million new jobs are created. Really? That's how low you're going to sink? You know, sometimes, I literally hang -- there is no net underneath me right now. This is a live show. I do three hours of live radio every day. Sometimes you can say things and they come out wrong. As Congress would say, revise, extend our remarks. Some things can be unintentional, slip of the tongue. This was thought-out written piece. He spent time thinking of this antennae on his dumpster fire of a morning show, he doubled down on stupid. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC HOST: If you strip America of its ideas, forget about knocking down buildings in the financial district, forget about running planes into the Pentagon, those are tragedies, but those tragedies bring us closer together. America is an idea. You've got America of that idea, that's when you do the most harm. The retweeting of neo-Nazi videos, Charlottesville, I mean, I could go on and on. What he said about majority black countries. That is tearing more at the fabric of America than attacks on the Twin Towers did. We rebuilt from that. We became stronger because of that. But this seems to me a far graver threat to the idea of America. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Hey, Joe, kids grow up without their fathers and mothers. And after facing much backlash for his absurd comparison, liberal Joe, he partially tried to backtrack as well thought out, quote, column and said he should have shown more care and wording his tweet. And then his blushing bride- to-be, fellow host Mika Brzezinski, vigorously defends him on Twitter. Of course, America's, you know, cutest couple. Joe and Mika perfect example of what happens when Trump derangement syndrome gets way out of control. At this point, I don't even think these two can ever recover. It's that sick. We'll deal more with this later but we now have some very important breaking news tonight. Literally minutes ago, Sara Carter handed us brand- new never before seen, unearthed text once again between FBI love birds Strzok and Page. Why don't they just hand them all over? In September 2016, months before the election, it appears Strzok and Page were working, or contributing to an op- ed about Russian election interference. Look at your screen right there, September 2nd. Lisa Page asked Strzok, quote, we are still writing the op-ed, yes? Strzok then responds: yes-ish. And on September 5th, 2016, "The Washington Post," they published a story about Russian interference on the very same day. Sara Carter reporting tonight the former FBI lovebirds share a link to an article. And Strzok writes: just read the article. We say a lot of the same things. I guess that's OK. And then Page writes back, quote: Yes, but that's why ours is going to need to be more folksy, so it's not like a news article. Maybe like more smelly Walmart people-ish. Strzok had said that. And these new text released yesterday from Congressman Mark Meadows of North Carolina, you have a pretty clear picture of what's going on, including this text from Strzok to Page, it took place on April 10th, 2017, reading, quote: I had literally just gone to find this phone to tell you what I want to talk to you about. Media leak strategy with the DOJ before you go. Oh, FBI and DOJ colluding. And then two days later on April 12th, Strzok warned Lisa Page that the two damning articles were coming out about her namesake, Carter Page and then on April 22nd, we originally believed this was on April 12th, Meadow's office corrected that earlier today, same point though. Peter Strzok told Lisa Page, quote, article is out, well done, Page. This is what we have now been telling you, what is a coordinated effort, the highest levels of the FBI and the DOJ leaking anti-Trump information before the election, after the election, to the press first to stop them from becoming president and then to destroy his presidency. But sneaky Peter Strzok, he's now trying to actually put out his own conniving spin on this fresh new scandal. His attorney says: The term media leak strategy in Mr. Trump's text refers to a department-wide initiative to detect and stop leaks to the media. The president and his enablers are once again peddling unfounded conspiracy theories to mislead the American people. Oh, but our words sound exactly alike. We are going to have to make it more folksy. Don't insult our intelligence. This is the same Peter Strzok who claimed under oath that political bias didn't impact his work as an FBI agent. But Hillary should win 100 million to nothing. Now, the same super patriot who played a critical role in exonerating Hillary Clinton -- we know she committed felonies and fomenting this witch hunt from the get-go against go against Donald Trump while trashing him on his work phone, openly wishing Hillary would win the election. How could anyone vote for Trump? I just was in a Walmart. Smelly Walmart people were there, I could smell the Trump supporters. And earlier today, the president responded on Twitter, quote: So terrible, nothing being done at the DOJ or FBI, but the world is watching. And they get it completely. We did reach out to Strzok, Page and the DOJ, we have yet to get a response. We'll have more on these breaking news developments. Sarah and Greg will join us in a few minutes. But we shift our focus to what is the most in important midterm election of your life. Now, I'm going to say this for the next 56 days. Last night, I called on you to wake up, pay attention. Republicans, to be very blunt because I only tell you the truth, they are in real danger of losing the House of Representatives. And the Senate? I'm not that comfortable about that either. Look at your screen. If that is your district, you will likely decide the fate of this country in 56 days. Democrats win these races, the Trump agenda will be stopped. It will halt right in its tracks. All the progress we've been telling you about, the Democrats, their insane quest for impeachment will begin in earnest. Just listen to Chuck and Maxine Waters. The Senate? Frankly also up for grabs. Republicans lose the Senate, you can forget about constitutionalist judges getting confirmed. It won't happen. And meanwhile, right here on this program, we have long warned that it's only a matter of time before the aggressive threatening rhetoric and tactics coming from the left is going to result, somebody is going to get hurt or killed. Here's kind of what I'm talking about. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: I will go and take Trump out tonight. MADONNA, SINGER: I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of course I want to punch him in the face. WATERS: If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in the department stores, at a gasoline station. And you push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome! SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: Please, get up in the face of some Congress people! REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA: I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Get in their face, chase Sarah Sanders, Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen out of restaurants, just say anything horrible about the first lady, the first daughter, even a 12-year-old kid. Over the weekend, well, someone did in fact get in the face of a Republican congressional candidate. The guy's name is Rudy Peters. It never heard of him before but he is running as a Republican in California's 25th district. And guess what? He was approached at a campaign booth by a man who is making disparaging remarks about the Republican Party. Well, that deranged individual then pulls out a switchblade and attempted to stab Peters but the knife thankfully malfunctioned and then they had a confrontation. I've said it a million times before and I'll say it again, the tactics of the anti-Trump resistance have gone way too far and while Peters was able to escape unharmed, and I always blame people for what they do, you can't blame people's rhetoric for what people's actions are, but you've got to admit this is not helping. The next victim might not be so lucky. But if it was a conservative, oh, they go nuts blaming, oh, talk radio and the FOX News Channel. I'm now holding individuals responsible. But the rhetoric is reckless, it is dangerous and it's out of control. We have more on the upcoming election throughout the show. But, first, joining us now with reaction to our big breaking news, he is the author of the number one "New York Times" bestseller, "The Russia Hoax". It is "The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett. And FOX News investigative reporter and contributor, Sara Carter. Sara, let's go to the news. This just broke within the last hour or so. You've now got new text messages on top of the old text messages. We've got a response from the attorney from Peter Strzok. It is ridiculous, considering we can read and we have fundamental simple basic understanding of what they were texting back and forth. Let's talk about the new text messages. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I think these new text messages, Sean, really expose what was going on inside the FBI and DOJ. Once again, we are seeing more evidence of basically collusion within the FBI and DOJ to change and shift the narrative during the 2016 investigation into President Trump and then candidate Trump -- collusion with Russia, I mean. There has never been any proof of this. We know now based on these text messages, not only did they use a dossier that was unverified, a dossier that was salacious, one that even Christopher Steele, he wrote himself that it was not verified and now, we are seeing in these text messages that they were shifting the narrative. What's most important here, Sean, is that Congress get to the bottom of this. That is why they are asking Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to investigate this. We need to re-question all of these players, Strzok, Page, Sally Yates, the boss of Bruce Ohr, everyone. Everybody needs to be re-questioned on this and they need to find the answers to these questions because, honestly, it's not looking good for them. HANNITY: Gregg? GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: A statement today by Strzok and his attorney is ludicrous, it's laughable and it's actually shameful and dishonest. HANNITY: Do you ever have any kids in your life and they are little and they try to lie to you? JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: And you're like, don't insult my intelligence. Stop. JARRETT: They must think Americans are stupid. They issue a statement saying, oh, Peter Strzok was trying to detect and stop leaks. Look at the plain language of the text. Here's one of them. The article is out! Well done, Page. That is not stopping a leak, that's creating a story. HANNITY: We've got to sound more folksy. We've got to sound more folksy. JARRETT: Yes. So, all of this just underscores that there was one purpose in mind and that was to damage Donald Trump and undo the election. And they were all leaking. It wasn't just Strzok and Page. Andrew McCabe now under investigation for leaking to the media and lying about it four times. The biggest leaker of all, of course, is James Comey, who stole government documents, gave them to an unauthorized person for the sole purpose of leaking them to trigger the special counsel. HANNITY: So, we have Strzok, Page, we have McCabe, we have Comey, Sara. We have Yates, Ohr. We have Steele. But we also have Rod Rosenstein. CARTER: We have Rod Rosenstein. HANNITY: (INAUDIBLE) because he appointed Mueller. I really want to get into this. He kind of holds the keys to the kingdom in a way, doesn't he? Because doesn't he get to decide, A -- let's say Mueller writes a report. He will make the decision, if I'm not mistaken if the report is released to the American people. Number two, doesn't he get to decide, Rob Mueller has to go to him and say, I want to subpoena Donald Trump and I went to get him under oath and I want to have a year-long court fight to make him testify before a grand jury? So, if Rod Rosenstein is conflicted in this whole thing, which we now know he is because he signed forth by the FISA warrant, the third renewal, how does that work? And he is a witness in the Comey firing because he wrote the recommendation. CARTER: Exactly. Exactly, and that's what I was going to say. He's -- you know, as far as obstruction is concerned and if Mueller is going down that road. I mean, Rod Rosenstein himself was the one that wrote the letter to recommend the firing of Comey. He wrote the letter to President Trump, so he's either a witness or a co- conspirator. He can't be in charge of this investigation. And another point in fact, Sean, he signed that fourth FISA, and this is why it is imperative that President Trump declassify those documents, declassify the FISA documents that need to be declassified, the "Gang of Eight" dossier that they showed it to particular members of Congress, that's very important because that also contains exculpatory information in the Bruce Ohr interviews with the FBI. Once all that information is out, the American people are going to know the truth, and that's why it is so important to hold these people in the DOJ accountable and get those documents declassified. HANNITY: I don't think the president should do it all in one dump. I think they are also important, he should do one one day, let the American people absorb the magnitude of it, then another one, then another one. But here's the thing, what is the culpability here of Rod Rosenstein, Gregg Jarrett? JARRETT: Oh, it could be tremendous. It depends on what Rosenstein renewal. HANNITY: Will he be the one that decides whether or not they pursue a subpoena against Trump? Does he make that decision or does Mueller make it? JARRETT: Well, it would be Mueller initially but with permission and consent of Rod Rosenstein. HANNITY: And if Rod says, no, it doesn't happen? JARRETT: Rod Rosenstein is so conflicted, he shouldn't just be not in the Department of Justice. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Wait a minute, but here's the conflict, wouldn't he get mad if Donald Trump releases the FISA warrant that he signed? JARRETT: Of course, he could. HANNITY: And does that, because he then seek revenge by saying we are going to go after and subpoena the president? JARRETT: He might well do that. Look, he has every interest to continue to obstruct the release of these documents. HANNITY: So, he holds the key to the kingdom, doesn't he? JARRETT: He absolutely does. This is a man -- HANNITY: So, if you released anything about me that makes me look bad, I'm going to unleash Mueller even further on you. JARRETT: He absolutely could. HANNITY: Is that justice in America? CARTER: He could -- JARRETT: This is the abuse of power and there is no justice at the Department of Justice currently under Rod Rosenstein and Jeff Sessions. HANNITY: Last word, Sara? CARTER: You know, he could, Sean. But that doesn't take away from the fact that the American people deserve to know the truth. We deserve to understand what happened here and we deserve to move on. So, we need those declassified. HANNITY: All right. Unbelievable information, that close, cards are going to come tumbling down. Thank you both. You guys have been amazing throughout the process. Eric Trump is here in studio. Also, first time together, George Papadopoulos. He's got to spend 14 days in jail. His wife Simona who fought so hard for him, they will join us on set. I have an important dialogue and I will address Barack Obama calling the Benghazi attack story the truth by the heroes of Benghazi a conspiracy theory, as this busy news night continues. We are glad you are with us. Thanks for being with us. HANNITY: All right. Earlier today, conspiracy TV MSNBC's liberal Joe doubled down on stupid and his comments about President Trump and 9/11. We've got the evidence. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SCARBOROUGH: The retweeting of neo-Nazi videos, Charlottesville. I mean, I could go on and on. What he said about majority black countries. That is tearing more at the fabric of America than attacks on the Twin Towers did. We rebuilt from that. We became stronger because of that. But this seems to me a far graver threat to the idea of America. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Joining us now with reaction from the Trump Organization, the president, Trump's son, Eric Trump. Good to see you. One year -- tomorrow is your son's birthday. ERIC TRUMP, SON OF PRESIDENT TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: Congratulations. One year old. TRUMP: It's been an amazing year. HANNITY: All right. I don't even know if I have a lot more to say about Joe except it's so cruel and so mean and so vicious even for him that -- and he took the time to write it. I've said dumb things and had to take it back, but we are not on a delay, we are live. TRUMP: Look how uncomfortable Willy Geist looked. Did you see him? HANNITY: Oh, yes. TRUMP: He just wanted to get out of there. I mean, he was so uncomfortable. But what a stupid comment. I mean, what an unbelievably stupid comment. Sometimes I watch a show and literally you almost can't watch. It's almost unwatchable. You end up turning it off because it's crazy. 9/11 was the greatest tragedy and probably the history of this country. You had 3,000 innocent people perished that day to absolute savages. HANNITY: It's horrible. TRUMP: He compares to a man who gave up his life to run for commander in chief to better this country, and by every economic measure, by every quantifiable measure, this country is doing better. I don't care if you look at unemployment, if you look at GDP growth, if you look at stock markets, if you look at 401(k)s, if you look at the amount of people who have come off food stamps. I mean, I could go on and on and on. How about the largest tax cuts it in the history of this nation. Jobs coming back to this nation. Consumer confidence being at an all-time high. I mean, I could go on and on. What kind of stupid comment is this? And it's quite frankly the reason that Joe and Mika have no watchers in the morning? How many watchers do they have, 500,000? HANNITY: I don't know -- TRUMP: And how many are watching -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I watch "FOX & FRIENDS", that's what I watch. I don't know, yes. TRUMP: I mean, it's silly. People are tired of this, you know -- HANNITY: There's a certain insensitivity, but this is like, this is Trump derangement. Let's say that some people don't like your dad's style. That he fights on Twitter, he takes on all comers. That he's combative, he doesn't apologize for things the political class demands he apologizes for, so what? For me, we got 4 million more Americans working, we got 4 million fewer Americans on food stamps, all the things you talked about. More importantly, he keeps his word. TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: Conservative justices, Supreme Court, fighting for the borders. You know what? I would say not having a missile fired over Japan since December is pretty successful. Hostages home, remains of soldiers home. That to me -- and everyone thought he would start World War III. Kind of worked out differently and better for the whole world. TRUMP: You know, those savages that took down the World Trade Center, that flew a plane into a field in Pennsylvania, that flew a plane into the Pentagon -- HANNITY: Horrible, evil. TRUMP: -- they are largely gone because of the actions of my father over the last 24 months. If you go back 24 months, all you heard about ISIS, ISIS, ISIS, every day. I mean, he put a war on them like they've never seen before. He un-handcuffed the military, he let the guys who do the best job in the world, the brave men and women go after these people and go after these savages. And you don't hear about them anymore. They went from 45,000 soldiers on the battlefield -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Everyone seems to forget the beheadings. Do you remember the beheadings? TRUMP: How about throwing people off a building? How about -- yes, people to forget about that. And it's very sad and it was a stupid comment by Joe, one that obviously he instantly regretted. HANNITY: He actually doubled down on stupid and then he got a lot of pressure. Then he kind of fullback halfway. Look, I don't call for boycotts. I don't want anybody to be silenced. In the end, it's always conservatives that they want to silence. He can say whatever he wants and people have the power to watch or not watch. Let me talk about these elections in 56 days. I keep saying it's the most important midterm in our life but the track record over 100 years, it's only happened three times. The last time was George W. Bush after 9/11 that the party comes to power in the White House and they don't lose seats in the House or lose control of one of the chambers. It's an uphill task. TRUMP: Yes, it might be. But are the Democrats' message right now? Let's raise taxes, right? That's one of their messages. HANNITY: They want to crumbs back. TRUMP: Let's raise taxes, let's go after our amazing law enforcement, let's abolish ICE and let's eliminate plastic straws. I mean, that's literally the message of the Democrats right now. And then they have no leadership. HANNITY: Yes. TRUMP: You saw the disaster that was the Brett Kavanaugh hearings where you have Cory Booker and Kamala Harris -- HANNITY: Unhinged. TRUMP: -- they are up their grandstanding. I mean, the poor guy didn't even get to speak for the first seven hours of the hearing because they are sitting there going back and forth running for president of the United States on the stage. I mean, it's crazy. I don't think America is into that, right? You look at how well the economy is doing. If you look at how good we've done on the war on terror. HANNITY: You raised a good point. But, you know, your dad is a charismatic guy. A lot of people voted for him in 2016. It's hard to transfer charisma to some of these candidates. They suck. TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: I mean, the Republic -- they are weak, they don't have a backbone. But they're not going to impeach your dad. I believe Maxine Waters and Chuck Schumer reveal what their strategy is. They want their crumbs back. They want to rescind the tax cuts. They don't want conservative justices. If they want to abolish ICE, as you said. They want to keep Obamacare. Name one thing that they are offering the working men and women in this country? The forgotten men and women it's going to make their life better? TRUMP: And then Obama comes out and takes credit for it this week, which is truly shocking, right? I mean, they all fought against this tax cut, the greatest tax cut in the history of the country that put so much fuel into our economy and is causing all these unbelievable numbers that we are seeing every single day. They all voted against it. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They all projected -- they projected 4 percent GDP for the third quarter. TRUMP: It's amazing. And by the way, they had to revise GDP upward-- HANNITY: To 4.2. TRUMP: -- this quarter. And do you remember the New York Times and the L.A. Times they all made fun of my father during the election? If he says he can get above 3 percent GDP there's no way he can get above 3 percent GDP, he is dreaming. Then he gets 4.2 percent GDP and they are crickets, right. They are talking about Omarosa, they're talking about some crazy book that comes out this week. I mean, no matter what he does they won't give him credit and it's horrible, but you know what, the people-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You were pretty calm about it. I'm not as calm as you. TRUMP: The people in this country are really smart. They see through nonsense. They see through B.S. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But in 56 days if they want this to continue-- TRUMP: Yes, better go out and vote. By voting for Republicans you are helping him succeed at the mission-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That you elected in 2016. TRUMP: That's right. And if you don't you are effectively voting against him. But he is going to do incredibly well, he keep winning for this country. He's going to win again in 2020. HANNITY: Is there a reason for the new look or what? TRUMP: Do you like it? HANNITY: Who cares what I want? TRUMP: Do you -- my life won't let me shave. HANNITY: Thanks for sharing. Good to see you. TRUMP: Thank you, Sean. HANNITY: George Papadopoulos, his wife Simona, in studio when we come back. Also I have a little monologue addressed to President Obama saying the Benghazi attack is a conspiracy theory. I actually interviewed those heroes, he's lying. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Last week, former Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos was sentenced to 14 days in jail for lying to the FBI. He joins us in studio along with his wife, who has been very outspoken and supportive, Simona is with us. You guys just got married. GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN AIDE: Yes, we did, Sean. HANNITY: You married him in the middle of all of that? (CROSSTALK) SIMONA MANGIANTE, GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS' WIFE: In the middle of that. That's true love. HANNITY: Yes, that's true love. And you were fighting for him on TV, which I like a lot. Congratulations. PAPADOPOULOS: She is a real killer. She's from Naples, she's not Russian like everybody thinks. HANNITY: I know. PAPADOPOULOS: She's coming from mafia land. (CROSSTALK) MANGIANTE: This is mafia land. HANNITY: Look, I don't want to go over these old interviews. What you want the American people to know especially about this professor? And what you want - what do you want the American people to think about your experience with Robert Mueller, how you got tied up in this. I was all over the campaign, I never met you that I know of. And I'm like, who? George who? You were in one meeting with the president, then the candidate. Did you ever meet a Russian? PAPADOPOULOS: No. I never meet a Russian official in my knowingly, no. HANNITY: No. Tell us what you -- tell the American people what you want to tell them about your story and your experience. PAPADOPOULOS: Yes. So, you know, initially when candidate Trump was very vocal about wanting to work with Russia at some level I basically thought it would be a good idea for him to meet Putin just for a photo op. That was the basic understanding. I meet this professor randomly in Italy. He presents himself as some sort of high-level connected figure to both the European governments and to the Russian government. All of a sudden he introduces me to a girl who he calls Putin's niece. She is not Putin's niece. I don't know who this person was. He then can't introduce me to even the Russian ambassador, which I wanted to meet at the time in London. He then introduce me-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You thought you were doing with the campaign said they wanted? PAPADOPOULOS: Yes. HANNITY: Which is better relations with Russia. PAPADOPOULOS: Absolutely, absolutely. HANNITY: OK. So? PAPADOPOULOS: So then, yes, exactly. So then all of a sudden one day out of the blue he dropped this bomb on me about e-mails. I have no idea what he was, you know, where he got this information from. He said he was coming back from Russia. I never saw e-mails. He never told me where the e-mails were, he just drop this bomb on me and then he just went his own way. So I don't know what his purpose was. It was incredibly shady. And to this day-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The professor though, before your sentencing came out and said you had never talked about these things. PAPADOPOULOS: You know what his lawyer just a couple days ago went on CNN and said he might have been working on behalf of somebody else. I don't-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Why did you apologize for lying? Did you consciously lie? PAPADOPOULOS: You know, during that meeting, that January 27, 2017 interview, I did consciously lie. You know, it was-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Why, why would you like? Because it doesn't seem like there's anything wrong with what you knew. Did you know anything that was illegal? PAPADOPOULOS: I mean, all I could say about this -- I didn't plead guilty to collusion, I've pled guilty to lying. And you know, everybody makes mistakes but certainly I wasn't pleading guilty to any sort of-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But when you lie people think you are lying to protect somebody. We are lying to protect anybody? The campaign? Why did you feel the need or desire to lie? PAPADOPOULOS: You know, looking back it was a chaotic moment, you know. And sometimes you make mistakes, that's all I can say about it. HANNITY: All right. Now you have an interesting story, Simona, in terms of this professor. How did you meet him, you found things that I didn't know about him. MANGIANTE: Well, actually I share this information with the FBI and the Congress but none of them quoted me apart from my interviews on TV. And that's the professor meant at least five years ago through the head of a socialist group of European parliament. He's a professor at Link Campus in Rome, which is a partner of the company that's in London. In this company, this university trains secret services agent of western- type intelligence. He's also a member of the Clinton Foundation. He claims to be a member of the Clinton Foundation. HANNITY: The Clinton Foundation? MANGIANTE: Yes. HANNITY: Donated to the Clinton Foundation? MANGIANTE: Yes, twice. That's been proved. HANNITY: The professor? MANGIANTE: Yes, exactly. My point has always been how did the profile of this professor and his background fits with the narrative of the Russian agent? There is nothing that leads to believe that he is a Russian agent. Nothing to believe that I'm a Russian spy. HANNITY: Right. MANGIANTE: You know, everything it seems to me so fabricated, so fictitious. It's just insane and as I said, I was a witness in the case and I share this information as first, witness of this person with both the FBI and the Congress. HANNITY: You face five years in jail over this. Do you think you were set up? PAPADOPOULOS: All I can-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How does this professor get into your life? How did this guy from Australia all of a sudden -- did you know anything about the Clinton e- mails that were going to be released other than what was in the public domain? PAPADOPOULOS: Of course not. I mean, the only thing I know was probably what everybody else is speculating at that time, was that, Clinton's, you know, secretary of state server might've been compromised. That's what was going through my head. And you know, I met all these random people in London. I have, you know, London was a very strange city for me during those months. That's where I met the professor. I met Downer there, I met Halper there. HANNITY: You are like gin and tonic and you were a little drunk and talking to Downer. PAPADOPOULOS: You know what's interesting about that, Sean, I've never admitted to remembering anything talk about that. I remember there's a lot about that meeting, I remember the context about that meeting. And you know, it was done under extremely suspicious circumstances. HANNITY: You were suspicious you thought you were being recorded? PAPADOPOULOS: I was so suspicious that actually notify the FBI when I was talking to them that I thought that Downer he was recording me with his phone illegally. As we as we all know, the 5-i's country member, meaning, Australia, the U.K. spying on an American citizen, that's illegal. HANNITY: Something a lot of people don't know and that information gets shared, doesn't it? And that's the way to spy on people keeping your hands clean, isn't it? PAPADOPOULOS: I don't know. All I know is, you know, one of our 5-i allies are spying on Americans, it's illegal. So whatever he was doing I felt the need to notify the FBI about it and I did. HANNITY: How was Mueller and his team to you, both of you? MANGIANTE: I, to me, intimidating. Mostly -- this is something I never said that after my interview they came to see me at the airport while I was boarding to my flight room. And for an Italian tourist visiting the United States is extremely intimidating. HANNITY: I've got to run. You could spent five years in jail, 14 days, can you handle that? PAPADOPOULOS: I can handle that. I've a very, very strong life here and we're looking forward to moving on with our lives. HANNITY: Well, you maybe, you know, who knows? You might just stay 14 days, that's way too long. No. I'm actually happy that it's not longer for you. I think you have caught up in something way beyond you. Thank you for coming in. (CROSSTALK) PAPADOPOULOS: Thank you so much. MANGIANTE: Thank you so much. Very nice. HANNITY: Simona, thanks. Good to see you. We appreciate you coming. MANGIANTE: Thank you. HANNITY: When we come back, president, former President Obama calling the Benghazi terror attack that left for Americans, a wild conspiracy theory. I interviewed those brave men. It was not a conspiracy. We'll set the record straight in a mini monologue, straight ahead. HANNITY: On 9/11, our world changed forever. We'll never forget what happened 17 years ago, but tonight it's also important to remember another date, at 9/11 2012. Four brave Americans lost their lives during what was a horrific assault against a U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya. For 13 hours no American jets were scrambled near the attack. No helicopters made it to Benghazi, no marines were sent to the rescue. Everybody knew they were under fire. And on Friday, last week, President Obama called his administration's deadly failure to act, subsequent apparent cover-up nothing more a crazy GOP-led to conspiracy theory. That is the subject of tonight's mini monologue to Obama. It is too a day we can't forget, that is September 11th 2012, the U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, foreign service officer Sean Smith, I've met his family, CIA contractors Ty Woods, another great family, Glen Doherty, they were all murdered. Some of them big heroes in all of this. This was a well coordinated assault. Dozens of heavily armed radical Islamic militants against U.S. diplomatic position in Benghazi. They used automatic rifles, they used grenades, they used RPGs and other military style weapons. Within an hour the Obama administration officials, they were briefed about this attack. U.S. surveillance drone was even sending back live footage. The State Department notified the administration that a radical Islamic terrorist group named Al-Sharia, Ansar al-Sharia was responsible. The militants, they quickly overran the lightly guarded main U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi and set fire to the ambassador's quarters. Under heavy fire. By the way, that Ambassador -- Ambassador Stevens had requested many times of Secretary of State Clinton in her office that they get reinforcements. They were denied. Many Americans managed to thankfully evacuate because there was a nearby CIA outpost which was subsequently attacked multiple waves of Jihadists. This all occurred over the course of 13 long hours. Right here on this program I had the privilege of interviewing the brave men and women who were told to stand down, not help, put their careers on the line and saved literally dozens and dozens of lives and two of them you saw lost their life and they told the truth about what happened that night. Let's listen to those people that were there. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was there when the consulate got attacked and the wall got blown open. You know, at the time there was only two security guys there when that happened that night. HANNITY: Right. But Great Britain had left. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. HANNITY: The United Nations have left. Others had left. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, just listen to those guys aggravation about, you know, we've been requesting more security, you know, even they just don't know why it keeps getting denied. HANNITY: And you know it was a hotbed for terrorist training. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. HANNITY: Everybody knew. KRIS PARONTO, BENGHAZI SURVIVOR: We were told to wait five minutes and told to stand down. The words stand down were used. So there's no confusion. They were used 15 minutes in, and in 10 more minutes, like 25 minutes we were told to wait again. And we're finally back orders. It's hard to maintain your composure, but you do. The full truths weren't being told. That's why we did, and why we are telling the truth right now. (END VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: Just the opposite of what Obama said. I guess Obama missed those interviews because on Friday he is trying to rewrite history claiming that his administration's shameful actions are surrounding the Benghazi attacks were nothing more than a Republican-led conspiracy theory. Watch him lie. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA (D), FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The politics of division and resentment and paranoia has unfortunately found a home in the Republican Party. This Congress has championed the unwinding of campaign finance laws to give billionaires outside influence over our politics, embraced wild conspiracy theories like those surrounding Benghazi or my birth certificate. Rejected science, rejected facts on things like climate change. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So let's help Obama remember the actual crazy conspiracy and what it looks like. Twenty twelve, Susan Rice, U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., five days after the Benghazi attacks, the Obama administration book tour on five different Sunday morning shows to lie to you, the American people, saying over and over that the attacks were just an out-of-control protest, a spontaneous protest over a YouTube video. They just happen to have RPGs in their back pocket. Now, of course Obama knew that this was just the opposite. This blatant cover-up just one small part of the Benghazi scandal and more importantly, why was there a lightly armed diplomatic post in a failed state overrun with terrorists where the U.N. had left, Great Britain had left? Why were reinforcements not immediately sent from across the Mediterranean? Why was this assault allowed to continue for 13 long excruciating hours? Then Secretary of State Clinton saying at a congressional hearing at the time if you continue -- you know, she's actually lying also. It's unbelievable. Joining us now, the author of the upcoming book, "The Deep State," Fox News contributor Jason Chaffetz, author of "Why We Fight," Fox News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka. I know who I believe. I believe that the guys that were there, congressman. JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. I was the first member of Congress to go there less than three weeks after the attack. The book that I'm writing is a new information about what happened in Benghazi and I would love to talk to President Obama saying that's a conspiracy theory. Shame on him and God bless Tig and Tonto and Charles Woods. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, not Tonto, they were never friend of mine. Maybe not him. CHAFFETZ: I mean, God bless them. HANNITY: No, listen, I'm kidding, I love these guys. Who do you believe, Dr. Gorka? CHAFFETZ: Yes. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: Well, I dedicated my first book, "Defeating Jihad," to those three brave men who ran towards the sound of gunfire. And let's remember one thing that isn't a conspiracy theory. Ambassador Stevens on dozens of occasions asked for more protection from Hillary Clinton, secretary of state and the Obama administration, which he was denied. Jason is absolutely right. It is utterly disgraceful that the former president should lie to our faces and dishonor the memory of those brave Americans, Sean. HANNITY: To think of the courage to be told twice to stand down, congressman, and go anyway. When you disobey an order to protect your fellow Americans you've given up your career, it's over after that. CHAFFETZ: You know what happened when they actually got home? Those people saved dozens of Americans lives. When they got home, you know what the State Department Hillary Clinton did? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Nondisclosure. CHAFFETZ: They took away their security clearance so they couldn't get a job. It's unbelievable. HANNITY: Didn't they make them sign-- (CROSSTALK) CHAFFETZ: I mean, that's how they treated these guys. Sign nondisclosure-- (CROSSTALK) GORKA: Sean, they-- CHAFFETZ: -- when they got when they were there in Germany, when they were there in Germany they didn't send them home. They didn't offer them plane tickets. They were just told you are released. They have to pay for their own tickets to get home. HANNITY: Dr. Gorka, last word. GORKA: All the people-- (CROSSTALK) CHAFFETZ: That's how they treat them. GORKA: -- all the people who knew the truth about Benghazi were polygraph every month by Obama's administration, by Hillary's State Department. Why? To intimidate them. It was un-American. This is not what we do. This is not Venezuela. HANNITY: We want to take a time to remember these families. They too have suffered like the families of 9/11 '01, and also those brave heroes. Thank them, they are American patriots. I appreciate it. We have hurricane Florence that's barreling towards, yes, the Carolinas and more. Rick Reichmuth has a report straight ahead. HANNITY: Fox News alert, hurricane Florence barreling towards the East Coast, the Carolinas and the United States. And Rick Reichmuth is in the Fox News weather center. This is the real deal, Rick. RICK REICHMUTH, FOX NEWS CHIEF METEOROLOGIST: Yes, it is. HANNITY: It doesn't look good. REICHMUTH: Yes. You know, some storms are bad but not all that bad. This one is going to be bad for a number of reasons. I'll show you. Take a look at this, yesterday was the statistical peak of hurricane season and we have four systems we are watching. This one, real quick, I'll tell you if you are in Texas, you're watching this over the next couple of days. We might see something form here while we are talking about Florence. That's obviously the big storm that is getting very close here now towards the Carolinas. We know it is going to make landfall across the Carolinas. We don't know exactly at what point that happens or exactly where that happens but they are tracking the storm, takes it somewhere here Thursday evening into Friday morning. Somewhere along the North Carolina to South Carolina coastline and a lot of indications that it is stall somewhere around here, possibly just offshore, possibly just on shore. We'll have big impacts. We'll certainly going to see the surge in the wind but some spots we'll probably going to see after 30 inches of rain. Because of that, we're going to be talking about a major flooding event as well, Sean. HANNITY: All right. We'll be watching closely. Rick Reichmuth, thank you for being with us. For all of you in harm's way, please -- I don't -- listen, I don't tell people to listen to government very often. Authorities tell you to go, get your important papers, get your pictures, get your valuables, and just go. We need to safe and secure. You and your families. You are in our prayers, everybody that's in harm's way. We'll be following more of this on the Fox News Channel. Let not your heart be troubled. We're always fair and balanced. We're not to destroy-Trump media. A lot more news comes your way because there she is. Laura Ingraham is standing by in our nation's capital tonight. Laura? Load-Date: September 12, 2018 End of Document Building of the Border Wall and Its Importance on Security and Control over the Border; Trump is Compared to Terrorist on 9/11 by Joe Scarborough; One-on-One Interview with Newt Gingrich on the Midterms and Building the Wall; Analysts Examined Possibility of Impeachment for President Trump; New Texts Between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page Concerning President Trump Released; NFL Deals with Possible Kneels of Players During National Anthem; Hurricane Florence Approaches Carolinas Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 11, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7844 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Rick Leventhal, Newt Gingrich Guests: Enrique Acevedo, Jason Owens, Thomas Von Essen, Ken Starr, Andrew McCarthy, Matt Light, Bianca Ambrosio Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: We will be following more of this on the Fox News Channel. Let not your heart be troubled. We are always fair and balanced. We are not to destroy-Trump media. A lot more news comes your way because there she is, Laura Ingraham is standing by our nation's capital's tonight, Laura. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Sean, great to see you. Great show tonight. And welcome to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. I'm Laura Ingraham in Washington and do we have a show for you tonight. MSNBC's Joe Scarborough is saying that the president is doing more damage to the country than 9/11. The man who was commissioner of the FDNY during those horrific attacks is here to respond. Plus, Newt Gingrich joins us tonight with how the media is using 9/11 as a weapon against Trump. Plus his messaging advice to the GOP this November. And an INGRAHAM ANGLE follow-up, former New England Patriot Matt Light is here to blow the whistle on how the NFL is making a mess out of dealing with the anthem protests. But first, time to build the wall. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. It's one of the president's cornerstone issues, and one that he continues to invoke at rally after rally. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (END VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: And we are building a wall on the southern border, which is absolutely necessary. And we will build the wall, that I can tell you. UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: Build the wall! Build the wall! Build the wall! TRUMP: Do not worry, we are going to build the wall, OK? Don't worry. Don't even think about it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, Congress intends to put nine spending bills on the president's desk by the end of September and the end of the close of the fiscal year. But there is no funding for the wall. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R), SENATE MAJORUTY LEADER: We still are in favor of the wall. We still want to get funding for the wall. But we think the best time to have that discussion is after the election. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I think McConnell and Ryan have made a political calculation that funding, or even talk of the wall, will spook voters before the midterms. They've even convinced the president of this. Here he is last week. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We are getting the wall done but I have had so many people, good people, great people, they'd rather not do it before, they'd rather do it right after the election. They don't want to do anything that will upset the apple cart, and my inclination -- if it was up was up to me, I would shut down government, build a border security. (CHEERING) (ND VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, Mr. President, your inclination is right. This wall must be built. He claims he is a commitment from McConnell and Ryan to vote on the wall and its funding after the midterm. But if you are worried about turning out the Republican base, wouldn't into make sense to talk about the wall, the need to build it now and get it done? Here's what my radio listeners said today. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Trump rally that I went to, nobody was chanting "3 percent GDP." Guess what they were chanting? Build the wall. That is why people went and voted for this cap (ph). UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can afford to take care of the rest of the world and not our own people who voted for getting the wall done. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Begin our build the wall campaign by all Trump supporters. I've got my donation ready to send in and millions of Trump supporters are ready to donate, too. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There were to be a huge of red wave if they would finally do their job and do what they promised. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: This is a winning issue for Republicans and the necessary security measure for America at this perilous moment. On this 9/11 anniversary, just look at what we spent to protect ourselves. According to the Stimson Center report, since 9/11, the U.S. has spent at least $2.8 trillion on counterterrorism, 15 percent of our discretionary budget goes to fund counterterrorism efforts across the government. In 2017 alone, Congress dedicated $175 billion to fight terrorism. And that doesn't count for the trillions that was spent in wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and the work we've done in Syria and Pakistan. A Brown University study estimates that the total cost of all that war since 9/11 through this year could be a staggering $5.6 trillion. So we lay out all this money to enforce other country's borders, but we can't afford $20 billion to enforce and fortify our own? Our porous border remains one of our greatest national security threats. Since fiscal year 2001, there have been more than 11.6 million illegal border crossings along our southern border. And in just the last few days, the border patrol in the Rio Grande Valley reports that they have arrested in the United States eight MS-13 and 18th Street gang members. Five sexual predators, some wanted by authorities, and of course they frustrated drug smuggling attempts at the same time. Well, that is just a few days and only one region of the border. How do these people get into our country? And might a wall stop the flow of illegals who pose a criminal and possible national security threat to our citizens? Well, I disagree with the good people the president referenced earlier. Now is the time to talk about the wall and to awaken citizens to the ongoing threat posed by an open border. And particularly on 9/11, we should remind people of the horror visited upon us by five hijackers who overstayed their visas. It is a whole separate issue. And think of this, as of 2017, we have over 700,000 people here on expired visas. That is even separate from the wall. This is total madness. All of this, but controlling our border, who comes in, and who goes out of the country should be one of our top priorities. If not, our number one priority. This summer, Reuters found that immigration was the top issue for voters going into the midterms. If Republicans want to really motivate their base to turn out and vote and win in some of those -- win over some of those security moms in the process. Give them what they want. Fund the wall immediately. Attach it to one of those spending bills going to the president at the end of the month. Now I know people are worried about a government shutdown. But this isn't -- this isn't a small deal. If this isn't done now, Mitch McConnell, I am telling you, if they are not smart enough to know this at this point, they are never going to know it, and this wall will never be built. And that is the "Angle." Joining us now the reaction is Univision anchor Enrique Acevedo along with Jason Owens, deputy chief border patrol for the Laredo, Texas border sector. Great to see both of you. Enrique, let's start with you here. This is just a few of the facts. This is Border Patrol facts along our southwest border. Fiscal year `17, we've had 415,191 border apprehensions. Fiscal year `16, 563,000, `15 444,000, `14, 569,000, `13, 489,000. So, this is what, Enrique, our Border Patrol are up against. So why not make their job easier by having a physical barrier in place to lighten their load so they can look for the bad guys? ENRIQUE ACEVEDO, UNIVISION ANCHOR: There's already a 700-mile wall along the U.S.-Mexico border -- INGRAHAM: The 2,000-mile border. ACEVEDO: -- and here are a couple of other facts. We have 21,000 well armed men in what you call an open border. We have drones. We have military grade surveillance equipment. INGRAHAM: How did they get across, Enrique? Hold on. I want this to be a productive conversation. ACEVEDO: We have thousands of thousands of resources -- INGRAHAM: Hold on. I want this to be a productive conversation. ACEVEDO: Sure. INGRAHAM: So when I go through the stats and I think we put them on the screen, we are talking 11.6 million people who have been apprehended at our southwest border since America was under attack and we lost almost 3,000 Americans, OK? ACEVEDO: Right. INGRAHAM: That is a security problem. And we might have some wall and I understand we have some fencing but we have, like, 170 miles along the Laredo sector alone that is completely open. People can walk across or swim across. That is the problem. ACEVEDO: I'm glad you want to make this a constructive conversation, Laura. You just had 3,000 U.S. citizens lost their lives on 9/11. There were at least 400 non-U.S. citizens, 90 countries lost citizens on that day. INGRAHAM: Exactly. ACEVEDO: And those attacks were not just to U.S. citizens. INGRAHAM: Perfect. ACEVEDO: Which goes to show you that the multiculturalism, the diversity was also a target, under attack by terrorists on that day, that is why they chose New York City, that is why they chose -- INGRAHAM: OK, let's get to the wall -- ACEVEDO: -- the World Trade Center because they are against everything -- INGRAHAN: OK, let's stick to the -- let's focus this conversation. Jason, I got to go to you on this because we got to move this forward. Because the line from the more of an open borders crowd is a wall is unnecessary, totally superfluous, you were on the ground every day, you are in San Antonio now, but you're on the ground every day, your border agents are doing their best. Would a wall help or not? JASON OWENS, DEPUTY CHIEF BORDER PATROL, LAREDO, TEXAS: Let me put -- the answer is simple, yes, it absolutely would. I can tell you that Enrique is right. We do have 700 miles of border along a 2,000-mile border. It's not enough. What we have right now is not enough to fully secure the border. We had nearly 20,000 men and women in the U.S. Border Patrol, almost 2,000 in Laredo sector alone. It's not enough. We still have people getting through. We still have things that are coming across our border that we don't know about. If we want to have a secure border, if we want to truly protect this country and what it stands for, these are things that we need. And the subject matter experts that have done is job for decades on end, are telling you, we need a wall, we need infrastructures. We need roads to be able to respond. We need cameras to be able to detect the traffic that's coming across and we need the brave men and women out there to able to do the job right. INGRAHAM: You guys saw the facts in "The Angle," a $175 billion just in fiscal year 2017 on counter terror measures. And we can find $25 billion over a period of time to pay for a physical barrier? It's not everything, but it's a statement and it will stop a lot of the flow. We saw in Operation Gatekeeper in the San Diego sector. That cut down Border Patrol - - border crossings by 89 percent. That was started under Bill Clinton and then ultimately expanded under George W. Bush. So Enrique, Mexico has the right to protect their borders, Guatemala has the right to protect their heirs, every country has that inherent right, that sovereign right to control who comes in and know what their intentions are. You agree with that, correct? ACEVEDO: Of course. And we have spent over $100 billion and since 9/11 militarizing our south border, and that is a fact. This is taxpayer money that has been used to militarize our border at a great cost for a once dynamic border communities and immigrants, human rights. Instead of being part of a broader strategy, border enforcement has become the only strategy. So I think that is where we have to, you know, really look at what has been going on over the last 50, 60 years. Why don't we invest more in finding the root causes of immigration? Why wait until people are at our door and try to build a wall to try to solve something that has to do with structural issues, like poverty, violence, things that we are seeing in Central America -- INGRAHAM: Well, we are dealing with a lot of violence. ACEVEDO: -- a border wall is not going to stop those people from leaving their home (ph). INGRAHAM: Yes. Well, we are dealing with a lot of violence, as I noted in "The Angle" just in this last week, MS-13, 18 Street gang members, among the most vicious -- not just in the United States, but in the world -- have been apprehended crossing the border. The problem without having a wall is the flow is so great, tens of thousands coming across every month, that you can't catch everyone. The wall slows down the flow. And you brought up the issue of militarizing the border, Enrique. I want to read this. This is a quote from an op-ed that you wrote recently, "Militarizing the border is something enemies would do, not friends and strategic partners. Immigration is an economic issue and it won't be solved by having more armed guards at the front door. A 2,000-mile wall won't seal the border, it will suffocate it." I will let Jason deal with that. Are you a part of the militarization strategy, you and your agents, Jason, and doesn't that hurt, according to Enrique, the relations between Mexico and the United States? OWENS: No, actually it does not. So we are a law enforcement organization. We are part of Customs and Border Protection, CBP. And along with providing border security, our job is to facilitate lawful trade and travel. That is a very important mission and it serves both sides of the border. One of the things that I think is important to remember is we are not just talking about the flow, the volume of traffic coming across, but what that traffic consists of. Now you referenced some MS-13 members and gang members. I can tell you in my sector alone, one of nine along the southwest border, we have already caught almost 50 known gang members this year alone. Over 770 criminal aliens that have been deported and came back after committing violent crimes, murder, assault, rape, you name it. These are the types of folks that were coming across that represent a threat to us. That's the ones that we are concerned with. We need to know about, we need to know that they are coming across and we need to be able to stop them. A wall helps us do that. It also perpetuates lawful trade and travel because it takes the criminal element away. If they cannot exploit a weak and porous border, they have no reason to exist and both sides of the border, both communities thrive. INGRAHAM: All right gentlemen, thank you -- real quick, Enrique. Yes. ACEVEDO: I just want to say, we can name one example of a successful terrorist attack on U.S. soil involving a crossing between the U.S. and Mexico. INGRAHAM: How many people have flown planes into U.S. buildings before 9/11? ACEVEDO: Look, what I'm saying here is that why are we focusing on the border and neutralizing the border -- INGRAHAM: OK. So that's it. OK, I'm glad we got to that. So Enrique, you really -- you really aren't for border enforcement or any wall or any fence. You've actually believe in open borders and a free flow of people and goods. I just wish more people would say that because it would make the conversation a lot easier. Borderless world, open borders, open markets, free thought, whatever their lingo is. Otherwise, a wall would actually make their relationship with Mexico better because we could go through normal ports of entry and control trade and control the people in the flow. It would be much better for Mexico. Much better. All right, gentlemen, we are out of time, but thank you so much. Great segment. And by the way, a shocking story of media depravity on a most solemn day for this country. An op-ed for "The Washington Post" shows that MSNBC's Joe Scarborough complaining that the president is a greater danger to the United States than foreign terrorists, something he expanded on this morning. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIIP) JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC HOST: If you strip America of its ideas, forget about knocking down buildings in the financial district. Forget about running planes into the Pentagon. Those are tragedies, but those tragedies bring us closer together. America is an idea. You gut America of that idea, that is when you do the most harm to Americans. This seems to me a far graver, graver threat to the idea of America. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Here to respond is New York Fire Department commissioner during 9/11, Thomas Von Essen. Tom, first of all, it's a solemn day for all of the firefighters in New York and across this country, police, first responders, all the victims and their families. Thank you for your service to New York, all those years and especially on 9/11. I had to get your thoughts on this. Joe Scarborough, saying the president is more dangerous to America than the 9/11 terrorists. THOMAS VON ESSEN, FORMER COMMISSIONER, NEW YORK FIRE DEPARTMENT: It is even worse when you hear him say it. It is pretty upsetting. Being at the ceremony this morning, it was one of the family members got up and he was begging politicians and the press to stop politicizing September 11th, to stop using families as fodder for, you know, opinions on one side or the other. These are folks that mostly, all of them actually, innocent people on airplanes or in buildings, were firefighters, police officers, and emergency first responders, who just try to go in and make a difference and help people and get them out of harm's way. I have known at least I would say between five to ten of the firefighters, good friends of mine, whose kids grew up and went to military academies, all with the idea of going in the military, serving the country, serving to honor their father. And most of those fathers were really special guys. The best of the best we had, and we had some really great people. So I would really doubt that if you ask any of those kids graduating from the Naval Academy or West Point or the kids who went on the job to honor their parents or their fathers, how they felt about the police officers and the firefighters. I think you might get a very different version of the politics of just disagreeing with the president, who we should be working to help, no matter what our opinions are and comparing them to a grave threat from a foreign nation. INGRAHAM: Yes. It's easy to make these comments from a comfy studio in Manhattan, I guess, but I don't know. I just kept thinking of, you know, that day and what we were seeing on the ground and all the firefighters who walked up and everyone else was walking down, those buildings shaking and falling. Senator Angus King in Maine, he compared Russian election meddling, Tom, with 9/11. Let's watch. (BEGIUN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. ANGUS KING (I), MAINE: They used airplanes into the towers. Now people can use the click of a computer key in St. Petersburg, Russia to attack. It's an attack that continues, and it's the same kind of attack today that occurred in 2001. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So Russian election meddling, serious, but it's basically the same kind of attack as 9/11. I don't even know what to say to these people at this point, but I am wanting your opinion. VON ESSEN: No, I mean, there is no comparison. I don't know how reasonable people, if they were just thinking about the folks that were involved, the firefighters involved, the civilians involved, people who worked at Wall Street, people whose wives went to work that day, people whose sons and daughters went to work and we were lost because of some evil, sick people that decided to hurt a country that they hated so much, a civilization that they hated so much, a way of life that they hated so much. And if these politicians would do their job that they swore to do, we wouldn't have half of these issues that we have. I don't know how they take paychecks and go home every night. I don't understand how somebody takes an oath and then just doesn't do their job. That doesn't happen with firefighters and police officers and soldiers. If you don't do your job as a soldier, you pay a price. With these politicians, they are not doing their job. They haven't done their job as far as immigration or any of these issues for 20, 25 years. So, I am not really too hopeful on them doing it now. INGRAHAM: And Tom, I just can't believe we are still debating whether the country needs to have a secure border, all these years. I'm not just talking about Trump. Obama, Bush, all these years, we still don't have a secure border. I mean, thousands of people crossing the border and it is a security threat. It is a security threat. Tom, thank you so much. It is great to see you tonight and our prayers are always with New York, Shanksville and Washington, D.C. Thank you so much. And when we come back, Newt Gingrich has a critical piece of advice for President Trump and the GOP to win in November. Don't go away. INGRAHAM: As we discussed in "The Angle" tonight, President Trump has a lot of critical decisions to make as the midterm's approach, including regarding the wall. The stakes could not be higher for the president, his agenda, and the future of the Republican Party, even the country. So, what should the priority be? For answers, let's bring in former House Speaker Newt Gingrich who has a great series about all of this on his website, Gingrich Productions.com that everyone should check out. Newt, let's talk about this. First, on the wall, I can tell you, my radio listeners plastered me with calls today after we learned that nine spending bills that will be delivered to the president, at the end of this month. No funding for the wall. Not a penny. Zero. After that was one of the key campaign promises of President Trump, and he has expressed his repeated desire to have that thing built. NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Well, look, I think he ought to keep pushing for the wall. I think the contrast between Democrats who want open borders, which would flood the country with people, and the president's desire to control our border is pretty dramatic. I would not recommend that he close the government. I don't think we are in a position to explain it and I don't think it gets us very far. But I think he ought to keep pushing for it and I think after the election, confident they'll have an additional continuing resolution at some point. And then I thin he can be much tougher. But I think between now and the election, he's begun to draw a really big contrast of the speech he gave in Montana. He began to draw the right contrast between, as he put it, Democrats who want to abolish ICE and Republicans who want to abolish MS-13. I think he needs to continue at that level, keep pushing. I will be a little surprised if he doesn't get some things done because I know with my own conversations with Mick Mulvaney, the director of the budget, they do have some money and they are in fact building parts of the wall right now. INGRAHAM: Well, all I know is that it's about $130 billion a year for all the services that illegal immigrants get in the United States. It's $72,000 per illegal immigrant, $94,000 per illegal immigrant child in the United States. I mean, this is a huge amount of money we threw around, including in other countries, which, I know we have to spend but most voters hear this, like, why can't you fund the money -- find the money to build this wall? And it's going to stick in the craw of our voters. I'm telling you. It is a sticking point and I'm glad the president is pushing for it, but we need that money. Newt, Steve Bannon yesterday on the show made a point about whether or not this is an election where you can still persuade people in the midterms. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEVE BANNON, FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF STRATEGIST: Trump has been at war with the permanent political class. About eight months ago, I started this film, feeling that by the time we had the run-up, it was going to be like the tea party movement. We needed these rally films to kind of get people in power. So this film is for the base plus to get them excited. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Yes, well his point was this is going to be a base election. He wants you to go watch his film, but you're not going to persuade people going down the home stretch. It's only turning out your base. Do you agree with that? GINGRICH: No. I think he's half right. We have to turn out the base. The president has to convince people to vote. If we don't have the base, we lose. It's not complicated. But in addition, if we pose (inaudible) -- if we pose a choice between an open borders Democrat, for example, Gavin Newsom's proposal in California to give free health care to every illegal immigrant who comes to California, that is so crazy. That you can win a huge block of people who aren't normally your base, but they are sure not going to vote to have their tax money go to encourage people from the whole planet to come to California for health care. So, I think we have issues that could actually win this election and dramatically broaden our base. But I would agree with Steve. We have to turn out the base. The people who care about Trump have to vote this fall or are we just playing loose. INGRAHAM: And Newt, now Barack Obama has been dispatched as the not so secret weapon for the Democrats. We don't need to play the sound bites, but, you know, we talk about Donald Trump, resentment, paranoia, he's dividing America, it's my recovery, meaning Obama's recovery. How effective is Obama going to be? Two term president, very popular in the country still. Is that something to concern the Republicans? GINGRICH: Well, I think we have to take him head-on. This is the guy who told us at Saddleback Church that he believed in marriage between man and woman because it came straight from the Bible and he believed it. This is the guy who told us you get to keep your doctor. You get to keep your health insurance. This is the guy who said there was a redline in Syria and exactly one year later said he never said there was a redline in Syria. Barack Obama is a left-winger who spent his entire career denying reality. One simple example, we lost 200,000 manufacturing jobs under Obama. We've already gained 400,000 under Trump. I like that choice. I think if you want to go back to Obama, higher unemployment, fewer jobs, more food stamps, let's have that debate. But listen, we need to have the courage to take head-on the real Obama, not "The New York Times" fantasy version. INGRAHAM: And wait, would you waste time going after the anonymous in the White House, finding out who it is? Lie detector tests or interrogations, or is that kind of a dead end? GINGRICH: First of all, I do think that if there is somebody currently working in federal government who is leaking when you have national security concerns, that's a legitimate concern and we ought to find out who they are. I think second, I just tell everybody, think of Bob Woodward's book as fiction because that's what it is. And remember, I've got a piece I'm writing right now on all the things people said about Lincoln. Lincoln was far more constantly attacked than Trump has ever been and I think we ought to put this in context. These two things are trivial. In the real world, we are creating jobs, we are reducing unemployment, we are doing remarkably well, and that is the real question this fall. Do you want to see more jobs or do you want to go back to food stamps with the Democrats? INGRAHAM: Hey, I mean, the economy is on fire, and yet on 9/11 of course, the Democrats focus on what Trump's gesture was when he got off the plane, I guess in Shanksville. Let's watch what Jen Psaki and what she said today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEN PSAKI, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: It's not even about like the commander-in-chief and what's appropriate. It's like he's missing a human screw. I mean, how do people react in a day like 9/11? This is not rocket science. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Basically, the ongoing story that you heard in the Woodward book et cetera, that Donald Trump just has no empathy, and that is why you shouldn't vote for Republicans in the midterms. GINGRICH: Look, I think the fact is if you have empathy, we have the lowest global (ph) black unemployment in history. That's very good. We have the lowest level of Latino unemployment in history, that's very good. All those people who now have jobs, that's a lot of empathy. This whole effort to attack Trump personally because they can't compete with him on policy, they can't compete with him on performance, there is something pathetic about the level of personal assault that goes on every single day. INGRAHAM: Newt, thank you so much, as always. GINGRICH: Thank you. INGRAHAM: Democrats have made it clear that impeachment is on the ballot this November. Former Clinton investigator Ken Starr thinks that sets a damaging course for this country. He'll tell us why, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS, (D) CALIFORNIA: If they say, Maxine, please don't say impeachment anymore. And when they say that, I say, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment. (APPLAUSE) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You've already said you support impeachment of the president. ALEXANDRA OCASIO-CORTEZ, (D) NEW YORK CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE: I think it is certainly something that needs to be on the agenda. I absolutely do. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bill Clinton was impeached but not removed from office. And we don't want to be in a situation where the president is deranged and we have got nothing that we can do about it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The midterms are fast approaching, and some Democrats are having a tougher time hiding their obsession with impeachment. Ken Starr, the man who led the Clinton investigation in the '90s that brought about the former president's impeachment, calls the process hell for the country. He's out with a new book today titled "Contempt, A Memoir of the Clinton Investigation." And we are also joined by former U.S. attorney and FOX News contributor Andy McCarthy. Gentlemen, it's great to see you. Judge Starr, let's go to you first. I remember 1998 like it was yesterday and all that was happening at the time. Bill Clinton at the time had about a 40 percent approval rating, 42 percent, mid-40s. But after he was impeached, his rating approval numbers started going up, up, up. Is that part of what you're thinking may happen here if the Democrats actually go for the brass ring on impeachment? KEN STARR, AUTHOR, "CONTEMPT": It could very well happen, because the American people, and part of the message in my book is be careful what you ask for, because I do think impeachment is hell. It's hell to go through for the American people. Even though there are very strong feelings on one side and then on the other side, that is not our system. We have impeachment in the constitution. It's an important last resort. And the country did not feel, as a whole, that Bill Clinton, for all of his crimes, and he committed crimes, and we proved that he committed crimes, that he should actually be removed in his last year and a half in office. We have elections in the country, and those elections mean something. Midterms coming up. Why in the world are the Democrats -- some of the Democrats -- seriously discussing impeachment? I think it's folly, but that is the politics. I think it is just very bad for the country. It is ultra-divisive. INGRAHAM: Judge, if you could do it all over again, would you still except for a job as an impending counsel? Knowing what you know now? I know it's a ridiculous question in a way. STARR: No. I think about that question, and the answer is, yes, I would. But I would not have made the second time around the blunders I made, especially dealing with the press, as I described in the book. My decision to sit down with a real snake in the grass named Steven Brill and to be interviewed by him, and for him then to completely distort what I had to say, and other journalists said that was a distortion because he was distorting what I had to say, and that brought on an investigation. And so when I think about how I conducted it, we tried to conduct it, and I think we did with integrity, I'd make a lot fewer mistakes. INGRAHAM: And Rosenstein worked for your team of prosecutors way back when. Andy, I also want to get your thoughts on the new text messages released today by Congressman Mark Meadows. They show more communications between the former FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. And to some come they point to a coordinated media leak campaign intended to harm President Trump. The correspondence ends with Strzok congratulating Page on an article being planted on Carter Page. Andy, your thoughts. Are there other ways to read this? ANDREW MCCARTHY, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: There are a couple of ways to read it, Laura, although I must say that when you have a situation like we have here where you've had a lot of evidence of high ranking FBI officials leaking, you have to take that into account. I have been in investigations where people -- I don't know that they used this phrase as clumsy as a press leak strategy -- but there are sometimes that you have to have a strategy because you are being killed by leaks and you are trying to tamp down on them. Then there is another way of looking at it, which has never been my preferred way as a prosecutor, but there are prosecutors who endorse this, and that is this idea of tickling the wires, this idea that you take information that you have from your investigation, leak it to the press so that it gets out, and then as you monitor your wires, see if the people who are mentioned in the stories say and do things that are indicative of consciousness of guilt or concealing evidence and the like. Again, I don't think that is a proper way to go about an investigation, but it is done. INGRAHAM: Strzok's attorney, Aitan Goelman, said that the term "media leak strategy" in Strzok's texts refers to a departmentwide initiative to detect and stop leaks to the media. And then Mark Meadows responds today by saying "The American people aren't buying his misdirection. In fact, Mr. Strzok did lead an effort to control leaks, as his attorney suggests. It's worth mentioning that such an alleged effort was clearly a failure. It should raise questions whether there was a serious effort at all." And finally, Andy, on the issue of impeachment, you are very skeptical about the idea that the Democrats would either have enough people to vote for impeachment, members, or that they would be able to get any Republicans on board, enough to get at that critical level. MCCARTHY: I think if they were wise, they'd heed Judge Starr's sage words, but I think if they're just going to play brass knuckles, brass tacks politics, they're going to need more than a margin of a few congressmen or representatives in order to have enough in the way of numbers to get even the simple majority that you need to file articles of impeachment in the House. I just think they'll need a more comfortable margin if they want to go about that. INGRAHAM: Judge, finally, does Mueller need to wrap this up, Judge Starr? It's like he hasn't gotten everything he's wanted. He didn't get Trump for a sit down, it doesn't look like it's going to happen. Is it time to get the show on the road here? STARR: Given what we know, there's no evidence of collusion. And I think the American people have wanted to know that for a long time. The two indictments that have been returned do not point to collusion at all. So yes, especially with respect to Russian collusion. Now, there is another perspective, and that is we don't know what other assignments he has been given by the deputy attorney general, Rod Rosenstein. So stay tuned. I'm going to say just a closing word on impeachment. As I describe in the book, 31 Democrats in the House of Representatives voted in favor of impeachment, and yet even with that modest, but still, 31 is not nothing, 31 Democrats supporting, we see what eventually happened. There was another way, and I think that way needs to be discussed. Is the impeachment process something that should be reserved for the gravest kinds of offenses, high treason and the like? Is that the way we should approach it? INGRAHAM: High crimes. STARR: Truly high crimes and misdemeanors. Let's get rid of parsing language and say this is a disruption of an election. So what should we do? And there was not a serious conversation with respect to a resolution of censure. We need to have that debate. INGRAHAM: All right, fantastic, thank you, gentlemen. Ahead an "Ingraham Angle" follow-up. Former NFL star Matt Light of the Patriots sheds light on the issues regarding the Anthem and what the league is doing about it. That coming up. INGRAHAM: And now an important "Ingraham Angle" follow-up. Last night we discussed how the NFL is fumbling the current Anthem protests, promising millions and millions of dollars to leftwing social justice groups. We are now joined by former New England Patriot Matt Light. The offensive tackle was on the executive committee of the Players Association. He joins us tonight with exclusive insight into what is happening among the NFL, the Players Association, and this recently formed Players Coalition that has gotten such a huge chunk of cash. So Matt, question to you. First of all, it's great to see you. What do you make of the NFL offering almost $90 million to what some are saying is just a buyout or buy off of this Anthem protest? Will it work? MATT LIGHT, SUPER BOWL CHAMPION: I think anytime you give a group that much money, you hope a lot of good comes out of it. And I think that's exactly what the players expect to happen with this money that has been allocated toward these issues that have become such a hot topic. And I don't have a problem with the players banding together and trying to come up with a message and affect change. But I do have a problem with the overall spirit and the tone of what has been going on in the National Football League. And, quite honestly, for a lot of former players, it's a very difficult topic to bring up. INGRAHAM: I would imagine if you are a player who is not wild about the Anthem kneeling and just think it distracts from the game and it's the wrong place, wrong time for the kneeling, as good as the intentions are for some of these players, I bet they are intimidated of speaking out. I bet a lot of the players are afraid to speak out. LIGHT: And that is the real story, Laura. There is a problem when you have two different viewpoints but they are not opposing. We have one group, like myself, and like you, and a lot of viewers, and like most Americans, and by the way, the overwhelming majority of the players in the National Football League, who feel like kneeling is disrespectful, for a million reasons, right. And on the other side, you have people that want to make a difference and help those. Those aren't two opposing views. Those are two people that are trying to express what they think about this current situation that should really have never happened. And it wouldn't have happened if we had better leadership. INGRAHAM: Ben Watson was on the show last night and I thought he was just -- I think he's a terrific guy. Five kids. He's really positive. He said, I will call the White House and I'm happy to work with the White House on criminal justice reform. To me you can get a lot accomplished working together instead of pointing fingers, and I've probably been guilty of that myself from time to time. But there are a lot of good players who want to help their communities. They can do that, and they are doing that already before Kaepernick, after Kaepernick. So I think it has all gotten muddled up. And one of your former teammates said something interesting today, I want to play the bite. This is Devin McCourty on 9/11 and the protests. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DEVIN MCCOURTY, NFL PLAYER: I think a day like today where we are talking about 9/11 everywhere, I think it is the quality of what people went through when they were trying to rescue lives. That's the same thing we are trying to fight for. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Devon McCourty, thank you for an expiring message. Thanks for what you are doing. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What are thoughts on that? LIGHT: Listen, Devin McCourty is a great teammate, he's a great man, he's a guy that actually gets dirty. He gets down in the weeds, whatever the topic of conversation is, whatever he wants to do, he goes full tilt into it. Now, I was quick to come out and say that I didn't appreciate when the Patriots knelt last season. And I caught a lot of flak for that. And I still feel that way. I don't feel like that's a respectful way to do things. I don't feel as though if you have a cause that you should be able to put your teammates in harm's way, so to speak -- INGRAHAM: But Matt, are there people on the Patriots now, players now, who agree with your point of view, who are afraid to speak out themselves, yes or no? LIGHT: Of course there are. It's tough thing to do, Laura. You get attacked from every angle. But again, we are not talking about two opposing viewpoints. INGRAHAM: No, but you're expressing your viewpoint, Matt. You're talking about a group of people who -- they are expressing their viewpoint. Fine, causing some controversy, but that's fine. But there are a whole bunch of other players, because we've heard from them, who don't want any part of this and just want to go out and play a great game and to do the Anthem and go home to their families. LIGHT: That's the overwhelming majority of people, Laura. And listen, we need to start naming these things. If it's social injustice, talk about who it is that needs to be out of the police force. Be very specific. And we need our leaders, we need Roger Goodell and DeMaurice Smith to stand up and make a difference. INGRAHAM: I want to know where all this money is going in the Players Coalition. We've got tens of million dollars, are you convinced that this is all going to go to the right places and not end up going to a lot of left-wing groups or ultimately not accounted for properly? LIGHT: It is up to us to do it. If we don't do it, no one will. So yes, we have to hold them accountable, and I hope that the players do the same thing. INGRAHAM: Matt, thank you so much. And by the way, hurricane Florence racing toward the east coast. There is new information on what may be ahead now for the millions of Americans and our past. FOX News Rick Leventhal has a live report from the ground in Wrightsville Beach, North Carolina, next. INGRAHAM: Carolina residents bracing for what President Trump warns could be the biggest natural disaster to hit the mainland United States in decades. FOX News reporter Rick Leventhal right in its path joins us now from Wrightsville Beach, North Carolina, with a live update. Rick? RICK LEVENTHAL, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Laura, there is more than 5 million people now under hurricane watches and warnings including most of the folks along the North and the South Carolina borders, and that includes Wrightsville Beach, which is under a mandatory evacuation order. And pretty quiet tonight. It seems like a lot of folks have heeded the warnings and gotten out. The folks who are still here have to get out before tomorrow morning. That is when the bridge will close for good here. One of the locals came up to me and said you are not planning to stay through the storm, are you? And I look at him, and he said, not a good idea. When the locals tell you to get out, it is probably a good idea to get out. Part of the reason is the storm surges expected to be after 13 feet which would take it above the garages and into the first floors of most of the structures on this strip of land. The other big concern here, of course, the wind, which is expected to be at least a Cat three, somewhere between 111 and 129-mile-per-hour winds. The structures here, the new ones, are rated about 130, so there are some builders watching this very closely and homeowners of course as well, very nervous tonight. The other big issue, Laura, is the rain, which could be two to three feet, up to four feet, not just along the coast but inland. A slow-moving storm could dump a lot of water, create a lot of flooding and a lot of problems for the next few days, perhaps even weeks. INGRAHAM: And Rick, what is the sense about the move of the storm up the coast? Is it going to stall out over the outer banks in Wrightsville and go inward, inland? Is it going to come up the coast? LEVENTHAL: It all depends on what the storm does last minute. We've seen these things turn and confuse and confound the forecast, but right now, this thing, the models all seem to show it coming straight across the Atlantic right into the Carolina coast. And once it gets inland then it starts making its way north. INGRAHAM: Rick, thank you so much. Be safe out there for us. And when we come, history, the best teacher, as we prepare for one of the deadliest natural disasters. Past hurricane survivors are speaking out with their stories. Bianca Ambrosio is a survivor of deadly 2012 hurricane Sandy. She chose not to evacuate. She joins us now, very briefly, to tell us about what led to the decision. Ambrosio, this is crazy how big the storm is. What can you tell our viewers about how important it is to heed these warnings? BIANCA AMBROSIO, HURRICANE SANDY SURVIVOR: Thank you so much for having me, Laura. It's very important to evacuate. My grandparents and I did not evacuate. We did not have bottled water. Water rose up to our floor in our home. We didn't know what to expect. This is my mother cleaning the basement. It was a very scary time for my grandparents and me. Thank you. INGRAHAM: And Bianca, I think a lot of people get brave, like they want to see what it's like, I want to see how powerful the wind is, my house can take it. But when you're talking about wind and wind this powerful and water this high, this is going to be a deadly storm. It would be great if somehow that didn't happen, but it will be a deadly storm. And how critical is it for people to get out as fast as possible with their papers, their pets, and that's about it? AMBROSIO: I would say, get out as soon as possible, bring your pets, get your cars, leave, because three cars were submerged under water. Trees were falling on houses. My friend has a true business, was able to do emergency work. But I would get out now before it gets bad because people were in bad trouble. INGRAHAM: Bianca, it's a word of caution, a word to the wise, we appreciate your sharing that story. So many difficult natural disasters over the years, and on this anniversary of 9/11, we remember the past natural disasters, and we've got to employ those lessons of how we deal with this next threat to the mainland. Up next, a moving last bite. INGRAHAM: Today in New York and Shanksville, Pennsylvania, and at the Pentagon, the families of the men and women who lost their lives on 9/11 gathered again to remember. Olivia Knutsen sang the National Anthem today in New York. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (SINGING) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave o'er the land of the free and the home of the brave? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: A beautiful and haunting rendition of "The Star-Spangled Banner." God bless all those first responders and the victims of 9/11, their memories will live on forever. May their families be consoled in this loss we'll never forget. Load-Date: September 12, 2018 End of Document Battleground 2018: The Stakes Have Never Been Higher; Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters Talks Impeachment; Former President Obama Hits Campaign Trail; Damning New Strzok-Page Texts Revealed; President Trump's Former Campaign Aide, Carter Page, Talks About How The FBI And The DOJ Fabricated Stories Against Him And Tried To Nail Something That Wasn't True, And Now He's Fighting Through Counter-Lawsuits Against The Government; Hosts Of The Show, "The View," Again Demean First Lady Melania Trump Over The Issue Of Immigration And Her Family Using The Chain Migration System To Be Able To Become American Citizens; Residents In The East Coast Part Of The U.S. Are Being Warned About The Power Of Hurricane Florence That Could Damage Properties And Even Lives If They Don't Heed The Advice Of Local Government Officials Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 10, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7478 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Ed Henry, Andy McCarthy, Jeanine Pirro, Tammy Bruce Guests: Carter Page, Alan Dershowitz Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Wow, what a great introduction. Great show, Tucker. Good to see you and thank you. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Thank you, Sean. HANNITY: Welcome to HANNITY. Let's just start out and be blunt. The stakes have never been higher. Fifty-seven days from today if Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Chuck Schumer, if they take over the House, the Senate, this is what you can expect to look at in terms of what's going to happen to your country. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: They said, Maxine, please don't say impeachment any more. And when they say that, I say impeachment, impeachment, impeachment. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So, let tonight be a clear warning, with just two months to go until the single most important midterm election of our lifetime, you have the power. You will decide whether or not Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi get their way. Now, meanwhile, the RNC is appropriately calling the Democratic Party crazy town. Tonight, we will highlight the Democrats and their candidates that are up for election, including Congresswoman Waters, and those that are living up to their nickname. We're going to show you every Senate race that matters. We have identified on the show 75 House races that will determine the balance of power in the House. In other words, you might want to look and see if your district is in play tonight. And we have a message for former President Obama. He's back in the spotlight, talking about his favorite topic, himself. Plus, the deep state, house of cards literally now coming crashing down. Tonight, we are on the verge of breaking it wide open. Believe it or not, there are brand new text messages between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok. Now we know for a fact what the insurance man was, we have coordination between the DOJ and the FBI, and we have the evidence that they were to leak anti- Trump information to you, the public, in the spring of 2017 to destroy the president. Even Mueller's pit bull Andrew Weissmann himself was allegedly involved in all of these dirty deep state leaks. We now know what that insurance policy was. This is yet another damning wrinkle in our investigation into deep state corruption. And meanwhile, the president looks poised to finally declassify critically previously redacted sections of FISA applications against former Trump campaign associate Carter Page. Oh, by the way, the coordination thing between the DOJ and FBI, it was about Carter Page. He will join us in just a few minutes. All right. Sit tight, buckle up, it is time for breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: Fifty-seven days, you cannot say you were not warned. For months here on this program, I have been sounding the alarm about the Democrats' true agenda, including item number one on their to-do list. This will happen if they get control of the House. How do we know? They're saying it about impeaching Trump. They want him gone as soon as possible. Yet most Democrats, even Maxine Waters admitted this, she's told not to say it. They're trying to keep it secret. They whisper it behind the scenes. They don't want to tell you the truth about their intentions are. But over the weekend, the de facto leader of the Democratic Party, Congresswoman Maxine Waters, oh, she couldn't contain herself. She just let the cat out of the bag, which we already knew. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WATERS: I'm in this fight. I'm in this fight and I'm not going to move. And as you know, there's a difference in how some of our leadership talk about how we should handle all of this. They say, Maxine, please don't say impeachment anymore. And when they say that, I say impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment -- (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The worst part of that -- please, just don't say it, don't say it, just stop. But that's what they want to do. And, by the way, Congresswoman Waters is no exception. Impeachment is now a foundational pillar in what is the Democratic agenda. It's not about you. It's not about the forgotten men and women in this country that deserve health and service from their government. Even Senate Minority Leader Chuckie Schumer, he wants to impeachment the president, quote, the sooner, the better. We have that tape. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When y'all going to impeach Trump? SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: Sooner the better. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sooner the better? That's not answering the question. SCHUMER: We got to get a few more Republicans (INAUDIBLE). Democrats are on your side. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The sooner the better. So, this threat is real. And if the election were held today, look, I'm always going to be honest with you, I am not confident in any way that Republicans hold the House. And, of course, impeachment is only one part of the radical Democratic plan for America. Nothing on their agenda is to help you. They want to rescind the tax cuts. They think they deserve your money. They want to preserve Obamacare, bring back the individual mandate tax. By the way, how's that Obamacare working, did you keep your doctor, your plan, paying less? They tried, and they will likely fail to block the Kavanaugh nomination to the Supreme Court. But if there's another appointment, they will try and block it again and probably have more chances of success. We know they want open borders. We know they want to abolish ICE. They will definitely kill off all of the investigations into the deep state, which means the biggest corruption scandal, abuse of power scandal on our history. They will burden this president with what will be never-ending investigations into nothing. It will never stop. This is what is at stake in 57 days. All of the progress we've made as a country, in, what, 19 months, will stop dead in its tracks. It's over. One congressional candidate actually wants to block funding to our number one ally in the Middle East, Israel, because of their discriminatory treatment of Palestinians. And there's one Democratic district attorney, candidate, wants to decriminalize, get this, trespassing and shoplifting and destruction of property. Jeez, we have no laws at all and so much more. And don't forget the congressional candidate from Illinois who once compared Trump to Osama bin Laden. He's now claiming that actual Nazis are working in the White House. Which brings us back to Congresswoman Waters. She's bragging about her recent threats towards Trump administration officials. Now, imagine if Republicans are saying this and Obama was the president. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WATERS: I got up and talked about the president's cabinet, I said if you see them anywhere, you see them at a restaurant, if you see them in a department store, even at a gasoline station, just tell them you're not welcome here anywhere. And, of course, the lying president said that I had threatened all of his constituents. I did not threaten his constituents, his supporters. I do that all the time shall but I didn't do it that time. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Threaten them all the time. Appropriately enough, the RNC just released an ad they called the Democratic Party for what it is, "Crazytown". This is your future if you don't vote in 57 days. Don't blame me. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (INAUDIBLE) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Please get up in the face of some Congress people. WATERS: You see everybody from that cabinet, you see them in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Those Republican leaders and President Trump don't give a (EXPLETIVE DELETED). (INAUDIBLE) REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA: I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country. (INAUDIBLE) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You want that in 57 days? You want to pay higher taxes? Do you want unfettered illegal immigration, eliminate ICE? You want the progress we've made in 19 months to stop. Because none of the people you just saw have any agenda to help improve the lives of you, your neighbors, your family. None of them plan to put more money back in your pocket. None of them will increase your safety. Look at the screen. This is what is at stake. We have nine current tossup states in the Senate. If you are from one of those states, take a good look. We'll put it up every night between now and election night, including by the way, many with vulnerable incumbent Democrats. There's a huge opportunity mere. McCaskill, Missouri. Heitkamp, North Dakota. Nelson, Florida. Manchin, West Virginia. Donnelly, Indiana. And in the House, so many pivotal close races will decide the future of this presidency. See -- follow that, see if that's your district. We will run these every night. And if your House district that you see scrolling on your screen, if that goes blue, guess what? All of the progress we've made will go away. And Democrats will be happy. Higher taxes will follow. Open borders are on the way. The Trump agenda will be halted, endless investigation. And when you hear Democrats and their friends on the left, mainstream media calling Republicans, this is going to happen and it's happening, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, Islamophobic, xenophobic, they want dirty air, water, and they want to kill children and throw granny over the cliff. That's what they say every election. Just know this happens every two and four years. Nothing more than the same old playbook, shameful political tactics because they want their power back. This is not about serving you. In their quest for more power, Democrats are now rolling out their savior, here he comes, the anointed one himself, Barack Obama. Now, he thinks the midterms to bring sanity back to the country. Like when he was president. Really saying. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: There's a consequential moment in our history. And the fact is that if we don't step up, things can get worse, where there's a vacuum in our democracy, when we are not participating, we're not paying attention, when we're not stepping up other voices fill the void. But the good news is in two months, we have a chance to restore some sanity in our politics. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Let's go to his definition of sanity. What was it like under the Obama administration? Lowest labor participation rates since the `70s, lowest home ownership rate in 51 years, the worse the recovery since the '40s, 13 million more Americans on food stamps, 8 million in poverty. And, of course, he took on more debt than every other president before him combined, anemic growth, burdensome regulation, billions of dollars in cash and other currency to the mullahs in Iran, all while they were actively funding terrorism around the world and chanting death to America and death to Israel. Former President Obama thinks he was extremely successful. In fact, he was so proud of himself that during his recent hour-long speech, he talked a lot about himself, 102 times in one hour. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: I want to be clear, I have to kind of remind them, actually, those job numbers are the same as they were in 2015. I'm glad it's continued but I have to say, this I don't agree with it. I don't agree with that. I believe. I believe. I have seen it. I have lived it. I'm one of them. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I'm here to tell you. I'm here to tell you. My administration couldn't have reversed 40-year trends. When I was on the ballot. People like me. I won states in the presidential election. I got votes from every demographic. I did. I mention when you hear how great the economy is doing right now, let's just remember when 24 recovery started. I'm not making that up. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Toby Keith, all about me, all about I, all about number one, all mine, all mine, what I see, what I know, what I want, what I want, what I see. I love talking about you usually. But I want to talk about me. I'll say it again. Fifty-seven days from the most important election, midterm election in our lifetime. It's not easy to win a midterm. Democrats want to return to the status quo, you can't allow it to happen, or you can and you'll pay the price. Too much is at stake including pivotal investigations into the deep state. Of course, the deep state never wanted Donald Trump to be president and for good reason. His administration is aggressively exposing what we now know to be a dark, seedy, corrupt underbelly of this country's massive federal bureaucracy. There is a swamp, there is a sewer, night after night, right here on this program, we keep bringing you damning information about how corrupt some of these officials are, some who have been hell-bent on defeating President Trump with lies and taking him down with lies. And tonight, even more breaking news. We thought we had them all, we don't. Brand new, tonight, text messages uncovered between former FBI love birds, Strzok and Page, proves everything we have been telling you for months. Look at this. A letter from Congressman Mark Meadows of North Carolina, to the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein saying, quote, a review of these new documents suggests a coordinated effort on the part of the FBI and the Department of Justice to release information to the public domain potentially harmful to President Donald Trump's administration. They actually did it. Specifically, the spring of 2017, high level officials, leaking sensitive information about FISA warrants against one- time Trump campaign associate Carter Page who will join is in a few minutes. Look at this text from Strzok to Page, April 10th, 2017. Quote, I literally just gone to find this phone to tell you, I want to talk to you about media leak strategy with the DOJ before you go. OK, the DOJ and the FBI coordinating likes to the media. It's an ongoing investigation. On April 11th, 2017, the very next day, "Washington Post" publishes a story about Carter Page and his FISA application. Now, naturally, this led to multi-day media obsession about so-called Trump- Russia collusion. Let's go to the next day, April 12th, 2017, one day later, Strzok texting his girlfriend, Lisa Page, job well done all while referring to two derogatory articles about Carter Page. John Solomon reporting tonight this could have been an attempt to smear Carter Page. Why? In order to cast a negative light on the president and potentially spur new investigations. And there's even more. Congressman Meadows points out other newly unearthed documents show that Mueller's pit bull, yes, we've told you about them, Andrew Weissmann, Robert Mueller, your number one guy, and other DOJ officials also leaked similar information to the press. They were coordinating the DOJ and FBI to lie. To lie to you, the American people. Why? To destroy the president. We now have discovered what the insurance policy is. You have all of these Trump-hating deep state actors, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Andrew McCabe, and I'll add Christopher Steele to the list, they have one thing in common, they all hate President Trump. Remember, this was about a month before Andrew Weissmann's boss, Robert Mueller, started the phony witch hunt and he's still working for Mueller, Weissmann is. Now, this comes as President Trump looks poised to declassify important sections of Carter Page's FISA documents. And we're talking about everything that was shown to the "Gang of Eight", specifically the pages 10 through 12, 17 through 34, potentially we're told exculpatory information on Carter Page. Now, all of the associated footnotes, all the so-called 302s, which are the reports that say Bruce Ohr talking about Christopher Steele in the context, terms of what they were talking, this declassification can happen any time. Now, I haven't seen them, but according to my sources the information will be explosive. We'll ask Carter Page about that in a moment considering it's about him. And if he's such a danger, why hasn't he been charged with anything? Joining us now, author of number one "New York Times" best seller, "The Russian Hoax: The Elicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett, and FOX News investigative reporter and contributor, Sara Carter. Sara, we'll start with the news as we always do, and then we'll get Greg's analysis. What's first? We have the FBI and DOJ colluding to leak phony Russian lies, to damage the president, the same DOJ that hired Mueller and the same Mueller team, Ohr, Steele, surrounding the information. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Sean, I think these are some of the most important documents, and important text messages to come out yet. What they show is that the DOJ and FBI, high level senior officials, were working hand in hand together to leak information on a counter intelligence investigation. They basically confirm -- HANNITY: An ongoing investigation. CARTER: That's right, an ongoing investigation, exactly, on Carter Page, a foreign intelligence surveillance warrant. I mean, this is, I believe, and Gregg can explain this more clearly, I was speaking to intelligence officials about this and this is absolutely prosecutable. I mean, you do not talk, confirm, leak to the press anything about a counterintelligence investigation. I think this is going to be very important, moving forward, and I think this is the main reason why the president needs to declassify the rest of the documents that you just spoke about. The FISA document, as well as the Bruce Ohr's 302s, those are his interviews with the FBI and -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Strzok and Page communications that haven't been released. This is brand new, how did we not see this before? CARTER: Because they were withholding the information. The Department of Justice is withholding that information, and it trickles out slowly to Congress, because Congress has been fighting over and over for these documents. Just think how many more documents we haven't seen, Sean. HANNITY: Now, this goes to the issue of firewalls that Steele was talking about with Ohr. This goes to the issue of the insurance policy with Strzok and Page. This goes to the issue of Christopher Steele asking Bruce Ohr if he got his information to the special counsel. This is what we have. I don't think can you get more corrupt. You have the FBI and DOJ, DOJ is running this investigation supposedly, colluding to leak what we now know to be lies -- GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Sure. HANNITY: -- to the American people to hurt the president. JARRETT: That's right. The same DOJ, hired Mueller and Steele is feeding information through Bruce Ohr to Mueller vis-a-vis Weismann. JARRETT: It's the definition of corruption. If there was ever any doubt that Comey's FBI and Obama's Department of Justice were engaged in an illicit and illegal scheme to frame Donald Trump, this should erase any doubt. And they are bragging about it in their text messages. They were using deliberately, knowingly, willfully, false information that they were peddling in this case to "The Washington Post", which so biased and gullible, they swallowed it hook, line and sinker. And then afterwards, they're bragging about it to each other. HANNITY: When you get Ohr and McCabe and Page and Strzok and Steele and then you look at -- they don't want to be exposed, Steele didn't want to be exposed, the fire walls, and the leak to the special counsel, I'm thinking we found -- we now know what the insurance policy is. These are the five hating -- the five big Trump haters. JARRETT: Right, the insurance policy in the event that Hillary Clinton lost the election. HANNITY: And this is post election in April of 2017. JARRETT: Exactly. Was to frame Donald Trump and undo the decision of American voters, undo the election results. HANNITY: With lies. JARRETT: That's right. And it's a violation of federal felony statutes, most notably abuse of power. You're not allowed to use your public office to interfere, disrupt with somebody's constitutional rights, the rights to privacy, Carter Page. And the president of the United States peddling a false story that they knew was fabricated. HANNITY: At this point in time in April 2017, this is Rod Rosenstein's Department of Justice. CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: Jeff Sessions was recusing. And now, he has a special counsel. But he's got another little problem, is that he's up to his eyeballs in all of this, he appointed the special counsel. And he himself signed the four FISA warrant, the third renewal application. CARTER: Actually, Sean, it was the fourth renewal application. And he knew everything. Or he should have known everything that happened prior to that. So, the first three applications, those first three renewals, that went over and over again until he finally got it, had all of the information backlogged, all of the information that the FBI would have had, Peter Strzok. So, Rod Rosenstein, this is Rosenstein's FISA. And he should have known, that is why the DOJ and the FBI are fighting so hard not to declassify the information. Those 302s by Bruce Ohr, the information contained in the interviews, show they withhold exculpatory information from the FISC court. When they get those 302s and compare them to the application warrants, I think all of our answers will come out and I've also been told when -- HANNITY: If that's the case, who goes to jail? JARRETT: A lot of people could be subject to prosecution, including all the individuals, Rod Rosenstein, James Comey, Sally Yates, Andrew McCabe, who deceived the court, perpetrated a fraud on the court deliberately. HANNITY: Do you realize that what we have here is that they are leaking -- the Department of Justice coordinating leaks of unverified information and Russian lies to the American people? JARRETT: That's right. And yet they refuse to answer those same questions when Congress asks them. HANNITY: All right. Thank you both. Now, the man at the center of this, Carter Page, he'll weigh in on tonight's breaking news. Also, Ed Henry and much more, straight ahead. HANNITY: Lawmakers are now pushing for President Trump to declassify FISA documents that led to the government spying on former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page who will join us in second. Joining us now with more first is FOX News chief national correspondent, Ed Henry -- Ed. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Sean, great to see you. That's right. House Republicans are renewing their push for the president to declassify a whole series of key documents after receiving a batch of new text messages from the FBI and the Justice Department that raise new questions about anti-Trump bias. In particular, Republican Mark Meadows firing off a letter to the deputy attorney general, Rod Rosenstein, about these texts suggesting there was a coordinated effort by FBI and DOJ officials to leak damaging information about the president and some of his advisors to keep the Russia investigation alive. In particular, in April 10th, 2017, text exchange between FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, suggest they have what they call a media leak strategy. The following day, "The Washington Post" published a story about FISA surveillance of former Trump campaign adviser, Carter Page. Then on April 12th, Strzok congratulated his colleague over two negative articles about Carter Page saying that one was worse than the other for the Trump team. Strzok added, quote: well done. Now, Mark Meadows' letter to Rosenstein, it's interesting it went to him, because remember, he signed off on one of the FISA warrants that continued the surveillance of Carter Page. Republicans want to see the president declassify documents that may shed more light on how the DOJ handled the investigations to both President Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton around the election. House Republicans also want to see the documents that may shed light on why Justice Department official Bruce Ohr kept such close touch with the former British spy, Christopher Steele, who, of course, put together the dossier that laid the ground work for the surveillance of Carter Page -- Sean. HANNITY: All right. Dossier that even Steele himself doesn't stand by, as we know from the interrogatory in Great Britain. Ed Henry, thank you. Here now with an exclusive interview, reaction, is former Trump campaign associate, he is at the very center of tonight's breaking news, the FISA abuse scandal, Carter Page. Great to see you, sir. Just to remind people, when you were on last time, you traveled to Russia and other places. When your country, when you came back, they often debriefed you. CARTER PAGE, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN ASSOCIATE: Very often, yes. HANNITY: And you cooperated with your FBI because you're a patriot? PAGE: Throughout my life, yes. HANNITY: And with the CIA and other agencies. PAGE: Yes. HANNITY: So, they considered you a friend. PAGE: I always thought they did, yes. HANNITY: Yes. Well, you are at the heart of all of this. The quote, media leak strategy, which was on April 10th, 2017, Strzok and Page communicating with each other. Then it likes the next day, the 11th in the "Washington Post." Then Strzok is congratulating page for a job well done with two derogatory articles about you. That's the FBI and the DOJ coordinating against you to leak in an ongoing investigation. Your reaction? PAGE: You know, Sean, Thompson (ph) I think said it best on your show, you know, going back weeks, it's not about me, they're just trying to get to the Trump administration, the Trump campaign. This is just a way of tearing down all of the great things that President Trump is doing. HANNITY: Well, let's be honest here, though. I mean, this is about your name, your reputation, your life, and it's an ongoing investigation. You just heard what Sara Carter said, 302s are released, the unredacted portions of the FISA released, you are going to be exonerated with exculpatory evidence withheld. Let's assume Sara is right, considering she hasn't been wrong yet. What would that mean to you? PAGE: Well, Sean, I just remember six years ago tonight, my good friend Chris Stevens lost his life in a very similar situation. HANNITY: Benghazi. PAGE: You know, where these people -- people in Washington, there's no concern about his safety, and they're very much worried about their narrative for the media. That's the focus. It's not -- it has nothing to do with safety, they're just focused on their own spin for their own personal gratification. HANNITY: A systemic culture of media leaking by high officials at the FBI and DOJ related to ongoing investigation. That's what we're talking about, you are in the center of it. You know, my mother was a prison guard. My dad was family court probation. I had more people in the NYPD. The two -- the two people we've referred to is deity, we're FBI guys. We're not talking about the FBI. We're talking about a few people in the FBI and the DOJ that abuse their power and basically used you as the single person to go out there, to get the president. Do you have any doubt they're trying to get the president now? PAGE: There's no doubt whatsoever. HANNITY: When you spoke to these people, now interestingly, you haven't been indicted. PAGE: Of course not. HANNITY: Are they talking to you anymore? PAGE: I haven't talked to anyone from the U.S. government this year. Other than the people in the DOJ where I was, you know, had my case against the U.S. government. But, and they keep, similar to the FISA court, Southern District of New York keeps giving this false testimonies to the court. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: About you. PAGE: About, you know I have a case against the U.S. government. And you know, the fake news propaganda. HANNITY: You have lawsuits that you're moving. PAGE: Absolutely. HANNITY: And you don't want any money you told me. PAGE: One dollar just, you know, nominal. HANNITY: How do you pay lawyers with $1? I don't know anybody. PAGE: I want to fix this terrible thing that's happened to our country. You know, this is just on principle, but it's just so corrupt right now. HANNITY: So tell me if this is wrong, the FBI and DOJ we learned through these text messages were colluding to leak what are phony Russian lies about you and then the same DOJ hires Mueller to investigate it. But the DOJ is working with the FBI leaking it. And then we find out, through Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele's contacts, Christopher Steele is saying did you get my info to your friends in the special counsel. Tell me what's wrong with that picture. PAGE: Well, Sean, look, I have, you know, dozens of lawyers that I'm up against in DOJ. And that's on the civil division. It's been, you know, told to friends with the Washington Post and New York Times that I talk to-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Did they ever apologize to you for taking laks that are unverified? PAGE: Absolutely not, no. And you know-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way, if they do it, it's going to be on page 836 in the bottom right-hand corner, nobody will find it. PAGE: Hopefully they start fixing this a little bit, Sean. HANNITY: Are you going to sue them? PAGE: Well, it's just like the first -- the fake intel report by Clapper, Comey, Brennan on January 6, 2017, two weeks before the inauguration. It was split into two themes. One is the hacking, the other is government propaganda. I am doing, I have a legal action right now, and the government propaganda. We'll see about the hacking. HANNITY: We get this information that we wanted declassified and unredacted, are you convinced there's exculpatory evidence they withheld, do you know that there's exculpatory evidence? PAGE: The more information that comes out, it's just going to keep showing how ridiculous this whole thing is. HANNITY: So you think when you look at the players Steele, Ohr, Strzok, Page, McCabe do you think that was the insurance policy? PAGE: Sure, it's definitely seems like it. HANNITY: All right. Good luck. I appreciate it. Sorry you were lied about. PAGE: Wouldn't have happened with (Inaudible). HANNITY: All right. Alan Dershowitz and Andy McCarthy react next, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. here with reaction to my interview with Carter Page, author of bestselling book in New York Times "The Case Against Impeaching Trump," Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz is with us, also Fox News contributor Andy McCarthy. It comes down to this, both of you I know are good people. I know, Andy, your work in the Southern District of New York. I know where you stand on indicting a ham sandwich and criminalizing political differences Professor Dershowitz. But when you have the upper echelon of the FBI and the DOJ coordinating leaks that turn out, professor, to be untrue in an ongoing investigation at what point do people get held accountable for this? ALAN DERSHOWITZ, PROFESSOR, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL: Well, this is a very serious problem. We have too many leaks, many of them are unlawful. Many of them are in violation of the laws and the rules. And we have too little disclosure of allegedly classified material, and exculpatory information. They have it backwards. They should be disclosing this material that they claim is classify, 95 percent of it, designed to protect people, not to design to protect national security. And they must reveal exculpatory material. But they should never be leaking. And the tragedy, is that the former head of the FBI, James Comey, gave permission to leak. When he leaked material and laundered through a Columbia law professor that put the green light to many people, and say, hey, if the head of the FBI can leak, why can't we? HANNITY: What about the coordination, the FBI and the DOJ, you know, they even say it, Andy, media leak strategy. Then they leak. And then they, you know, job well done on two derogatory articles about the guy we just had on. Now maybe a lot of people don't have empathy-- (CROSSTALK) ANDREW MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Sean-- HANNITY: I don't want to be leaked about the FBI and the DOJ and I don't think either one of you do. MCCARTHY: Well, nobody wants to be leaked about. But I don't want to get ahead of what we know here. I've been in investigations where there were leak problems. And sometimes you have to have a leak strategy because your investigation is being damaged by leaks. Other times, you have what I regard as a corrupt endeavor by government officials to intentionally leak information in order to as I say tickle the wires, that is to say you have people who are under surveillance, you put information out in the media, and you see how they react, who they speak to, et cetera. It's not a tactic that I think is a worthy one. But it does happen. So, I think we need to find out, I agree with Professor Dershowitz, that what we need is disclosure, disclosure, disclosure. But I don't want to pounce on what we don't know yet because we don't know what leak strategy-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, we have two text messages that talk about a media leak strategy, and then they're congratulating each other over leaking about Carter Page and talking about further likes. MCCARTHY: Right. HANNITY: Let me ask this, professor, because there's a big question the president now is going to have to answer. And I have not seen them, but I hear if he declassifies and sends out unredacted FISA applications, the 302s that Sara Carter says has exculpatory evidence in there that they withhold, the gang of eight material, all of the Page, Strzok e-mails and texts, that it will be exclusive and will show corruption at the highest levels. More -- my sources say each one has said at least nine or 10 out of 10 in terms of corruption exposure. DERSHOWITZ: Well, I think first of full, sunlight is the best disinfectant as Justice Brandeis said. And so we want to see all of this information the public ought to have the opportunity to judge, the media ought to be able to assess it, it ought to be put in context, let's see what there is. Let's not have selective disclosures, either by Republicans or Democrats, which helped their narrative. Let's disclose everything we can, unless it really raises serious issues of national security. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way, you sound like Spartacus-- DERSHOWITZ: And when in doubt, put it out. HANNITY: You sound like Spartacus now. DERSHOWITZ: Well, put it out. HANNITY: But in all seriousness, you're right. (CROSSTALK) DERSHOWITZ: Well, there is an issue on that. HANNITY: And Andy, would you call for an-- DERSHOWITZ: I mean, we shouldn't be withholding material about Kavanaugh either. I think what's good for the goose is good for the gander, it has to come out on all sides. HANNITY: I'm not disagreeing, but Kavanaugh, in fairness they released more documents than the five previous nominees. But go ahead, Andy. DERSHOWITZ: Not enough, though. MCCARTHY: Yes. I would say not just on Republicans and Democrats, but not by the FBI and the intelligence community. The big problem you have when you have a government that leaks is that it cherry picks leaks-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, should the president unredact? MCCARTHY: -- so that the (Inaudible) of events that may not be reality. HANNITY: Should the president declassify? MCCARTHY: Of course, he should have done it the first day in office. HANNITY: We specifically-- DERSHOWITZ: The president has the power to declassify but he should do it not politically. He shouldn't to serve his interests or the interest of his party but the interest of full disclosure and the America -- the Americans citizens' ability to read for themselves. You know, when we hold information back, we insult the American public. And they have a right to see it. That's what democracy is all about. You can't have democracy without information. And so we need more disclosure and fewer leaks. HANNITY: Last word, Andy. MCCARTHY: Two years, two years, put it out. Two years. HANNITY: Yes. Is Rod Rosenstein conflicted, and as considering now it was head this DOJ, FBI, and they're the ones now that we find out they have people leaking and that he's appointing Mueller and he signed the last FISA warrant? Is he conflicted? DERSHOWITZ: He's so conflicted, he's so conflicted even beside the fact that he's a potential witness in the case. HANNITY: Bingo. DERSHOWITZ: He has become a player in this case rather than the objective neutral chief prosecutor. HANNITY: You agree with that, Andy? MCCARTHY: I do, and I think his memo, his August 2nd memo which is roughly contemporaneous with the FISA warrant that he signed also should be unsealed and revealed. HANNITY: All right. Thank you both. The house of cards is about to fall. When we come back, the ladies of The View vicious, hateful swipes at our first lady. We'll play you the tape. We'll get reaction, Judge Pirro and Tammy Bruce as we continue. HANNITY: All right. The ladies of The View they're back, and they already going after the first family. They can't control themselves. Just look at the swipes taken from some of the hosts at the first lady, Melania Trump. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SUNNY HOSTIN, CO-HOST, ABC: I was shocked by Melania's statement. She said -- yes. (CROSSTALK) WHOOPI GOLDBERG, CO-HOST, ABC: Do not -- don't do it. HOSTIN: I can't come back. GOLDBERG: No. That's why we tell you don't do it. HOSTIN: Good. Right. Don't try it I can't do it. She says, people with no names are writing our nation's history. Words are important. And accusations can lead to severe consequences. If a person is bold enough to accuse people of negative actions they have responsibilities to publicly stand by their words and people have the right to be able to defend themselves." As far as I recall-- (CROSSTALK) JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST, ABC: Who wrote that, Michelle Obama? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Joyless Behar then continue to bashed the first lady over the weekend. Let's watch her. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BEHAR: She is now enjoying the fruits of the American country. Her parents are now, in the chain, what do they call that chain migration? VAN JONES, CNN HOST: yes, chain migration. BEHAR: They're enjoying chain migration which a lot of people in this country unfortunately are not enjoying because her husband wants to stop it. Why shouldn't she go along with it? You know, she was in Slovenia, doing nothing, I don't know what she was doing there. What was she doing there? JONES: I think she was working as a model. BEHAR: Ok. She was a model. Now she's the first lady. I mean, come on, as my mother would say, who's better than her? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Wow. Pretty vicious. Joining us now with reaction, Fox News contributor, Tammy Bruce, and author of the number one, that's right number one, did I say number one New York Times best seller "Liars, Leakers, and liberals: The Case Against the anti-Trump Conspiracy," the host of Justice here on Fox. And she fills in for me but she complains about it all the time. JEANINE PIRRO, FOX NEWS HOST: I do not! I love to fill in for you, when you taking off again? HANNITY: When are you going to drop dead, I'll jump right in the grave. You know, I really have had it with the attacks on Secretary Nielsen, Pam Bondi, Sarah Sanders, first lady, Ivanka, even Baron Trump. I had it. Leave -- leave the wife of the president and leave the children alone and leave the women that serve their country alone. Because if Republicans did this we know what the reaction would be. PIRRO: You know, I have personally experienced the kind of attacks that you just saw on The View. it wasn't that long ago when I went on for my book. HANNITY: That was such a bad idea. PIRRO: No, no, I'll go toe-to-toe with anyone. They don't scare me. But here's the bottom line. HANNITY: Nobody watches. PIRRO: There is so much hatred by the left toward the right, all of a sudden racism is acceptable. Sexism is acceptable. Derogatory statements. Look, I know Melania Trump, the woman speaks five languages, she is extremely classy and bright. You would never hear her say, for the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country. You would never hear Melania talk about the fact that, you know, it is not right that so and her parents came. You know, the comment about chain migration, the reason she says chain migration isn't what it should be, is that people are coming in illegally. They're just crossing the border. That's what Michelle Obama wanted. HANNITY: Melania came in legally. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Legally. HANNITY: Number two, the English is her fifth language, not first, not second, not third, not fourth, her fifth language. BRUCE: Yes. HANNITY: Can I barely speak one. And not only that, she's a good mother, she represents our country well, and I just can't believe the vicious, vile attacks. BRUCE: Yes. HANNITY: Never-ending. Like that idiot, Jimmy Kimmel. BRUCE: Well, let me tell you, as a woman, if you experience this and you recognize it for what it is, they're jealous. And when you're growing up, if you are a special individual, you are excelling, you are beautiful, there is a crowd of the mean girls who go after you because they can't stand it. It's clearly jealousy. At the same time, you've got Melania who frankly can take the heat in that kitchen. But you notice what they were attacking was Melania personally. Not her ideas. Because the statement she made about freedom of expression and taking responsibility, is at the core of what matters to every American, right? But instead, even the Joy Behar remarks implied, horribly, that the first lady is a prostitute. That she's doing things for certain reason just to get stuff. When in fact, I think we're dealing with some projection here, aren't we. The first lady's approval rating is the highest, really, of the president, of everybody else in politics, certainly of anybody on the view. She's well liked for a reason, because she represents what makes this country great. Yes, immigration, people want to come to this country to become Americans. And then honor us with embracing the American ideal. That is what they hate, that is what they're going after, and it is why the president will be re-elected and why this nation -- I welcome it. It exposes the left for what they are. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's going to happen in 57 days. PIRRO: And you know what, that is the reason that Donald Trump is the president. Everything you are saying is true. BRUCE: That's right. That's right. PIRRO: The reason he's the president is because people rejected that Barack Obama and the Michelle Obama legacy. It's really as simple as that. BRUCE: Yes. Look, I think that first lady herself particularly represents what makes the country great. What the American people recognized in that couple. And why she, frankly, with her programs for kids, her speaking out against this anonymous op-ed piece in the New York Times, she knows what makes this nation especially great. And her life experience-- (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: She is an elegant woman. HANNITY: She is an elegant, lovely, beautiful, wonderful person. (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: Elegant and classy. And I want her to keep speaking up. keep speaking up. HANNITY: Thank you both. All right. If you have family or loved ones on the East Coast you need to see a report, hurricane Florence is real. That's next. HANNITY: We do have a Fox News alert. And you've been hearing about hurricane Florence now miles off the coast. It's headed right to the Carolinas. Now beware. It is headed straight for the East Coast of the U.S., according to projections, as my friend Joe Bastardi says, this is a pattern hurricane, which means it's likely not going to change course. It's a cat four, it's 140 miles per hour, set to make landfall on Thursday in the Carolinas. Look, we love you. If you live in North Carolina, South Carolina, if you are in Virginia, Wilmington obviously it looks like ground zero right now. This storm is headed for you. Mandatory evacuations are now in place in certain areas. We urge you, please heed those warnings. You know what? We've seen enough damage. As a matter of fact, when hurricane Hugo went to the same area, this particular storm, hurricane Florence, is a slower moving storm. Hugo did so much damage in the Charleston area, the Carolinas, that literally, it decimated entire communities. You've got to take this seriously. We, remember, we can always rebuild homes. I know it's not easy come I know it's inconvenient, I know it's a pain but take your possessions, take your kids, take your animals, and if they tell you to evacuate, please get out. Please. There's the one time in my life I'll tell you to listen to government. And also pay your taxes. Those of you who don't they'll put you in jail. Anyway, please be careful. We are going to follow it here on the Fox News Channel throughout the week. And we are praying for all of you that are in harm's way. All right. We are always fair and balanced. We are not the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is standing by. Big show tonight, Laura. Load-Date: September 11, 2018 End of Document The NFL and the Anthem Controversy and Not Implementing Their Own Policy; One-on-One Interview with Steve Bannon and His New Documentary File "Trump at War;" Analysts Examined Latest Criticisms of President Trump; Serena Williams Accuses Referee in Tennis Match of Sexism; Town Hall Examines Violence in Chicago Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 10, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8217 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Vera Bumpers, Burgess Owens, Ben Watson, Steve Bannon, Dan Bongino, Victor Davis Hanson, Chris Hahn, John Lloyd, Anthony Tall Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Anyway, please be careful. We're going to follow it here on the Fox News Channel throughout the week and we are praying for all of you that are in harm's way. We are always fair and balanced. We are not the destroy Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is standing by. Big show tonight, Laura. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: We do Sean and words to the wise about the hurricane. Fantastic show tonight with all the new developments. Thank you so much, Sean. HANNITY: All right, Laura, have a good show. INGRAHAM: All right. Welcome to Washington. I'm Laura Ingraham on THE INGRAHAM ANGLE on a very busy Monday night. We are monitoring, as Sean said, Hurricane Florence. It is a Category 4 storm that is expected to smash into both North and South Carolina on Thursday night, right around our show time. We will provide an update later in this hour with important information that you do not want to miss. Plus, former chief strategist to the president, Steve Bannon, is here for a rare and exclusive appearance. He'll comment on that internal war at the White House and share exclusive footage from his new documentary, "Trump at War." And a tennis star meltdown. I'll explain why Serena Williams kind of got it all wrong this past weekend and I'll be joined by a former tennis great himself. But first, the NFL fumbles on the anthem again. And that's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Last May, the NFL owners announced a policy requiring their players to either stand for the national anthem or remain in the locker room during the anthem. Anyone kneeling or protesting would be fined. But what a difference a few months make, as the NFL has now announced that it won't implement its own new policy. So this weekend, Kenny Stills and Albert Wilson of the Miami Dolphins took a knee during the anthem of their season opener. Their teammate, Robert Quinn, stood, but he did so with a fist in the air. So what penalties will they face? None. An NFL spokesman tells "Sports Illustrated," "The status quo continues as productive discussions are ongoing on the important work of social justice." And you might have forgotten that this all started back during the Obama era, and about August, 2016. That was when Colin Kaepernick refused to stand in a pre-season game for the 49ers. After that game, he defended his gesture, saying, "I'm not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder." Well, remember, Kaepernick basically started on police brutality but now, this has morphed into a much broader movement that the NFL felt that it had to support. So in an attempt to appease the protesting players, and put the kibosh on the protests, the league committed nearly $100 million earlier this year to what they call "social justice initiatives." But just where does that money go? Well, $73 million of it will be divided into three organizations -- 25 percent to the United Negro College Fund, 25 percent to Dream Corps, which is kind of a left-wing social justice group founded and led by Van Jones. Their goal is to lower the prison population by half and provide sanctuary to all. Not sure what that means. And then half of the $73 million will go to something called the Players Coalition. Now, the Players Coalition was a nonprofit quickly formed by a group of NFL players to guide the social justice conversation and receive any money that the NFL might be willing to donate. And get this, they've consulted with George Soros-backed criminal justice groups and the liberal Center for American Progress, this, according to ESPN. The coalition is led by 12 players, but it was founded by Malcolm Jenkins of the Eagles and retired player Anquan Bolden. The group advocates for everything from criminal justice reform to racial equality to voting rights. But some players have withdrawn from the group, including Michael Thomas and Eric Reed, who was one of the first players to protest right along with Kaepernick. In an interview with "Slate," Reed trashed the NFL's attempt at hush money -- that's what he called it -- basically called it, and resigned it from the players coalition altogether, claiming that Malcolm Jenkins told him, "the money would come from funds that are already allocated to breast cancer awareness and Salute to Service. So it would really be no skin off the owner's backs. They would just move the money from those programs to this one. We didn't agree with that, because we weren't trying to cut other worthy programs." Well, whatever the case, the NFL thought it could buy its way out of any further controversy surrounding the anthem by basically paying off a patchwork of left-leaning groups. But it didn't completely work. On the broadcast side of this issue, the increasingly liberal ESPN has decided it will simply no longer air the playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner" at all before Monday night football. Well, I hope Colin and company are happy with that. The fans aren't. Viewership of the NFL season opener at least was down 13 percent from last year and reached the lowest rating for an opening game since 2009. They did better yesterday, though. Well, I have a better idea of all this. If these players or the NFL were truly concerned about making life better for minorities the United States, why not consider dropping the political chip on your shoulder and consider working with the Trump administration? I know you might not like his tweets, I get that. But I have a question, are you aware of President Trump's openness to criminal justice reform? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESDIENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Working together, we can restore the rule of law, keep dangerous criminals off our streets, and help former inmates get a second chance at life, and a second chance that many of them will really succeed at if only given the chance. America is a nation that believes in the power of redemption. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Or his willingness to commute the sentences of those with exemplary records and unusual circumstances, like Alice Marie Johnson. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALICE MARIE JOHNSON, SENTENCE COMMUTED BY TRUMP: My message to President Trump is thank you so much President Trump for taking the time to really look at my case and to really look at me. And as I have said before, I will -- I promise you, President Trump, I will make you proud. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I love that moment. And of course President Trump's policies have made this the best time ever for black Americans to find jobs. Black unemployment is at a stunning and record low, currently at 6.3 or 6.5 percent. Although the president disagrees with the anthem kneelers, and we all know that, he also offered them an olive branch back in June. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: You should stand for our national anthem. You shouldn't go in a locker room when our national anthem is played. I'm going to ask all of those people to recommend to me -- because that is what they are protesting -- people that they think were unfairly treated by the justice system. And I understand that. And I'm going to ask them to recommend to me people that were unfairly treated, friends of theirs or people that they know about, and I'm going to take a look at those applications, and if I find -- and my committee finds that they are unfairly treated, then we will harden them, or at least let them out. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So my question is, how many of the NFL players have taken him up on that offer? Reached out to the president? Well, maybe some have used back channels, I don't know. But did not do so confirms a suspicion that the anthem protests are more about ideology than equality. And that would be a real shame. And that's the "Angle." Joining us now with the reaction is Vera Bumpers. She is the president of the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives along with retired NFL star Burgess Owens. Great to see both of you. Vera, I want to go right to you. For your reaction to "The Angle," given what has happened over the past few years and where we are today, why not the players turn this into an opportunity to work with President Trump especially on criminal justice reform? VERA BUMPERS, PRESIDENT, NATIONAL ORGANIZATION OF BLACK LAW ENFORCEMENT EXECUTIVES: Thank you so much for having me Laura. I can't speak for the players, but as far as the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives, we do support anyone's right to peacefully protest. We do see this as an opportunity to address some of the issues in criminal justice reform, as well as police trust and legitimacy. This opens the door for dialogue and conversation. As far as our conversating with the president, I can't really speak to that. INGRAHAM: Burgess, why do you think Vera is wrong here? This is an opportunity for conversation and community and people getting together, I mean, set aside the issue of George Soros group helping advise the players coalition or any of that, but could something good not come out of this and to not admit that, isn't that wrong? BURGESS OWENS, RETIRED NFL PLAYER: Laura, I think your "Angle" was spot on. We have an opportunity here to actually help those who are hopeless and unfortunately, I think our problem is we have this group of black elitists that are doing pretty well in our country. They are living the American dream and they spend more time telling our young people how they cannot make it and telling them how white people are stopping them from being successful instead of reaching out and finding solutions. We have now around the football field millions of dollars -- billions of dollars represented by these young players, and not once have they come together and put together a conversation about -- how about entrepreneurship? How about hiring these young people? How about telling our young men to man up and stop deserting our families? How about respect? There are a lot of things we can do and at the end of the day, the left doesn't want that to happen. They would rather have us be in misery versus having real solutions. And that is what President Trump represents right now, a way to talk through and get some solutions. They don't want to come to the table to do that because he will get credit for it. INGRAHAM: Friday on "Fox & Friends," the president actually addressed the anthem issue again. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: I don't know why they are not enforcing it. And in cases where they don't have it, you know, they have a new thing where they don't have to do that, you don't have to kneel, you can go back into the locker room. I think that is worse than kneeling in a certain way, you going back in. That shows that you just have no respect for the anthem or the flag. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Vera, what about that? I mean, the Black Law Enforcement Association Executives support peaceful protest. But then you had Colin Kaepernick wearing the socks with a pig and a police hat on them. And a lot of police officers that I speak to and I have gotten a chance to know so many over the years, are just like, you know something, this doesn't help make our jobs easier. This doesn't help keep people safer in the inner-city. There is a time for protest but when it comes to the national anthem that should be a moment of unity for the country, and patriotism regardless of political differences or cultural is agreement. BUMPERS: Well, the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives, our membership, we do not feel like that was an attack against law enforcement. We feel like it had brought attention to some very important issues and -- INGRAHAM: What issues are those? BUMPERS: Criminal justice reform, as I think I just heard the gentleman speak about, going into the neighborhoods, making a difference, talking to the young people. Our organization as well as other organizations, we are doing that. We are trying to get out and give the message of hope. We are - - INGRAHAM: Right, but you didn't need Colin Kaepernick. Hold on, Vera, did Colin Kaepernick kneeling for the national anthem get the Black Police Officers Executives Association to go out in the neighborhoods? I mean, Burgess, police are out to the neighborhoods all the time, and they are getting disrespected by people who -- you know, are taught to hate police, sadly, both black, white, and Latino police officers. They tell the same story. So, I get it, people are frustrated. I understand it and protest is fine. But it also seems like there is just some common sense we are missing in this conversation. Common sense. BURGESS: Well, it comes down to this. You're right, there is a message going out to the black community and that messages is anti-American, anti- white, anti-free enterprise, and you see that with the anger that is developing within our young people who have no idea how to break out of it. And I want to talk about the NFL because at the end of the day, it is the management. It might not be all the owners, but the management has decided that this is a good deal for them. They are globalist. Right now they have figured out a way that they can make $27 billion for the next nine years in a global fashion. All they have to do is put on the face of NFL (inaudible) because China and France, and left-leaning countries, would love to embrace NFL and it has become a global brand. If all they can do is just be named the all-American brand that the NFL has had in the past. So, this is a long-term process -- INGRAHAM: They wanted to get rid of it. They wanted to get rid of the problem and it has minimized the problem for sure, but there is still -- I can tell you my radio audience, there is still a lot of ticked off fans out there. Both of you, I appreciate it very much tonight. And the New Orleans advocate says that, well, he is ageless at age 37 and still getting it done, as tight end to the saints. Tough game last night. Running back Mark Ingram says he is so ripped he looks like the Under Armour manikin. Here from the aforementioned Players Coalition is the New Orleans Saints Ben Watson. Hey Ben, great to see you. How are you doing? BEN WATSON, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS TIGHT END: I'm good. How are you doing, Laura? INGRAHAM: I'm not bad. The Under Armour mannequin, I mean, that ain't bad. I saw that, and I'm like, gosh, that's got to must make you feel good even if you had a tough game night last night. You heard "The Angle," Ben. Your thoughts on where things are now given the $100 million almost the NFL has given over to various groups, including this Players Coalition. How are do you feel? WATSON: Well, I think the bigger thing that we are missing in this whole conversation is the fact that what Colin did by kneeling was one check along the long spectrum of players and Americans who are concerned about what is going on in this country. People -- everyday, people, fathers, brothers, sisters, they are all concerned when they see things that happen on television or maybe the experience of being themselves. And so what Colin did obviously brought a lot of attention but this is one thing along a long spectrum and specifically when you talk about the coalition. Look, tomorrow we are actually having a listen and learn tour in New Orleans, learning about the criminal justice system, educating ourselves, hearing from the grass roots organizations who are involved in this, going to bail hearings, hearing from people that are now able to vote because of a law that was recently passed here in the state of Louisiana. So, players are engaged, players want to learn, players want to advocate. And I heard Burgess say something before about what guys are not doing. Let me tell you something, I'm a father of five. I live here in New Orleans. I'm in a room, a locker room, with 53 other guys from various places around the country and we do go into our communities. We do encourage young people, we do tell them that they can do whatever they want to do. In my house, I tell my kids that they can become whatever they want. But I'm also real with them. INGRAHAM: That's awesome. WATSON: I'm also real with them, Laura, telling them that there are certain challenges that they are going to face because of the color of their skin. INGRAHAM: Well, this is what Eric Reid said, you know, who obviously was supporting Colin Kaepernick early on. He is a free agent. I guess he hasn't been to sign to anyone yet which is tragic because he's a really good player. But why he left the Players Coalition. This is from November of 2017. He said, "When we agreed to be a part of the Players Coalition we were under the impression that it would be our organization. We were under the impression that we would all have equal say. But we've come to find out that it's actually Malcolm and Anquan's organization. Nobody else really has a stake in the organization. Malcolm actually wants us to -- he calls it invest, I call it donate -- to the company that pay salaries for his staff. But again, we would have no equity." What is your reaction to his ongoing complaint about what happened with this Players Coalition, where a huge amount of money is going into concerns about where that money is actually ending up, who's getting what and what audit is being done and all that? WATSON: Well, there is auditing, it is an official 501. You know, all that stuff is right there. The NFL wouldn't be giving money if they didn't know how to trace it and knows where it's going so (inaudible). As far as Eric, you know, he is -- I'm glad you mention that he's a great player, because he is a great player. He is one that should be in his league. And him and Malcolm have dealt with their differences and this is September, this is a month ago so I'm not going to comment on where they are or not because I believe that they are definitely in a better place, but again, where we are now is different. Players are poised to make a difference and that is exactly what we are going to do. INGRAHAM: Did you need the donation from the NFL to be involved in your community because I know a lot of you guys do a lot already? You did it before Colin Kaepernick, and you are doing it after Colin Kaepernick. So, again, it looks like from the outside -- and even some of the more left- wing critics of you guys -- and there are people on the left to really think you guys were just bought off, like this guy Stephen Crockett at "The Root." I guess I'll put up the full screen, Ben, so you can hear what I say. It says, "Malcolm Jenkins sounds like the man who turned his back on Harriet Tubman to do the good work of making sure he can effect change from inside the plantation. Please stop calling Malcolm Jenkins the face of Colin Kaepernick's movement. That would be like saying Ben Carson is doing the work that Malcolm X started." Well, that is a nasty comment about Ben Carson, but you get the point, that you guys were too quick to take the money instead of continuing the protest and standing against what the NFL owners are really all about. So you are getting hit by both sides, the left on the right, I guess. WATSON: Well honestly, Laura, I can understand how from the outside it may look that way, but when you are in the inside and you understand, again, that generations of players coming to this point and moving forward are going to be concerned about the issues that all Americans should be concerned about, you understand that the money being donated was simply us and the NFL coming together and negotiating that and them being willing to support some of our causes. I think that we can learn a lesson from what has happened here because on the outside, again, and when you watch the news and when you hear the tribalism that is going on, there's a lot of back-and-forth but there is no communication. And what we have done between players and the league is to come together, communicate. They understand the things we are concerned and they are learning about it and because of that, they want to support our initiatives. INGRAHAM: I get it. So Ben, why not work with President Trump? I mean, he is doing criminal justice reform, prison reform. He's reached out to you guys, given an olive branch, saying, you guys have ideas, bring them to my committee and we'll consider them. I let you have the last word briefly. WATSON: This is the president of United States. He has ample resources. He has gone through thousands and thousands of people who need pardons. We wrote an op-ed talking about, we want systemic change, not just a pardon here or there, although that may be great for someone that have them. We want to be a place where these issues don't even -- these issues don't even have -- it's broader than that, but we do, Laura, -- INGRAHAM: I get it, but why -- WTASON: -- commend the president on his willingness. INGRAHAM: OK, So I am saying is, they are doing prison reform now and he has expressed, as I played in "The Angle," a desire perhaps, which kind of ticks off a lot of conservatives, but to do a broader criminal justice reform. He's bringing in all these people, including Van Jones, who is also getting money from the NFL, so why not -- forget the politics for a moment. We could actually get something done with this president, even with all of our differences on other issues, for his tweets or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Just come and talk to him. I think you would actually find someone who would actually want to work with you on a lot of things. That is my sense. Final thought? WATSON: Once I get off this interview, please forward me the president's number so that I can contact him directly so we can come work. As players, we are open to any invitation for the president of United States, obviously, and we will go work with him. INGRAHAM: We're almost out of time. WATSON: But for me, I will say this one thing for me. This issue of justice is important because in the Book of Micah, it says to act justly and to walk humbly with your god and so -- INGRAHAM: I love it. I love it. WATSON: -- this is just one of those issues but for me, it's something that -- that's when it goes home. INGRAHAM: That's a great one. I'm going to end it there. Thank you so much, Ben Watson. We really appreciate it. Up next, Bannon. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell me what the Democrats are running on. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeach 45! UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Democrats have nothing to run on. They are resorting to racism, xenophobe, and all these other things. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: African-American unemployment, Hispanic unemployment, record lows. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This election cycle is about the highest stakes possible for (inaudible). UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is armageddon. TRUMP: You know, this is tough stuff. We are fighting a war. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well that is a clip from the film "Trump at War," the new documentary from former White House chief strategist for Steve Bannon. And President Trump's enemies are seemingly emboldened after the release of details from the Woodward book and that anonymous "New York Times" op-ed by senior administration official. Bannon says President Trump is now facing what is essentially a coup from within his own White House. He joins us now with more. You can see the film Wednesday on the One America News Network. That is going to be a lot of fun, 8:00 p.m. How are you doing Bannon? Long time no see. STEVE BANNON, FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF STRATEGIST: Thanks for having me. INGRAHAM: Thanks for dressing up. You have your own clothing line coming out, right? It's black on black where they -- I wanted the military jacket. BANNON: I knew if I was going to come on the show, you were going to bust my chops. I deserve it. I deserve it. INGRAHAM: I need the military jacket tonight because it's at war, you're at war so you got to be in the military coat. All right, why the film? Why now? We are at war -- we've been at war from the beginning -- BANNON: Well Trump has against the permanent political class and I've talked about this for years, you know, I've been on your radio show. You were on my radio show. Trump has been at war with a permanent political class. Eight months ago, I started this film feeling that by the time we had the run up and was going to be like the tea party movement. We needed these rally films that kind of get people in power. So this film is for the base plus to get them excited, to get them out, you know, walking precincts et cetera. So, I think it's -- you can already tell it's gotten a big reaction already from the Democratic left. INGRAHAM: Well, the funny thing is that it is coming out Wednesday when you had Omarosa, -- Michael Wolff, Omarosa, Woodward, and now the anonymous column. And there are some out there who say this was all planned. I mean, I don't know if it was all planned or coordinated, but you almost think it would be, given that this is -- every day it is a drip, drip, drip. BANNON: The film shows what President Trump has been up against since day one, right. It shows on the campaign but particularly it shows in the White House where he is up against, and I think the convergence of that book and the anonymous column, I mean, it is quite evident that President Trump -- there is a coup. I mean, there is a coup, like they are saying there was a coup by General McClellan and the senior leadership in the Union Army to try to thwart what Abraham Lincoln wants to do in the Civil War. You have an exact type of coup right now. What was said in that anonymous letter was absolutely outrageous and I think the president ought to take immediate and direct action to find out who the conspirators are. I don't think there is any one author. I think there is an author -- I think there is somebody that drafted it. There are many voices in there. I think you can tell the way it's written. I think that's a much broader conspiracy than people think. I think it is probably six to a dozen people and I think you ought to immediately start to do what Andrew Jackson did, do what Abraham Lincoln did, find out who is responsible and fire them. INGRAHAM: We have Broadway actress now basically wishing that John Wilkes Booth was still around. I mean, this is the level of discourse and dialogue that they always blame Trump. They say well, he is the one who once said you can go punch someone out a rally. BANNON: You can see in the first -- I have a prologue in this film that is five minutes long. If this was put into theaters, because it is going to be distributed otherwise, it would probably be almost x-rated for violence and language. What we did is went back to the rallies, we went back to what Antifa has done to the Trump supporters. We show the violence. I mean, the left is out of control right now, OK, across the board. INGRAHAM: Is it by any means necessary? BANNON: Absolutely, any means necessary. And now they have cohorts. Now they have cohorts in the administration and I think it is broader than the White House. Remember, what "The New York Times" said was senior administration officials and what that basically means for "The New York Times" is cabinet secretaries and their deputies, major agency heads, and assistance to the president, which is about 40 to 50 people. INGRAHAM: Nikki Haley came out with an op-ed in "The New York Times" where she basically was supportive of the president but it basically said when I want to challenge the president, I do so directly to his face. And there was a word that the president didn't like that that much. Why do you have to write a column with that focus? Again, it was fairly positive toward the president but pointing out she disagrees with him on key issues. When I worked for the Reagan administration, it wasn't so out there, constantly, that you had, you know, perpetual infighting, although there were people who were less conservative than Reagan. But it was more of a movement. There was more of a sense of a movement -- BANNON: I don't know, and Jim Baker, (inaudible) Jim Baker and towards the end of the first term or the second term, you had the knives being put into the conservatives every day. White Houses are naturally, you know, -- INGRAHAM: That's okay. BANNON: -- cauldrons of different pinions, et cetera. INGRAHAM: But that's OK because Trump does like people of differing opinions and in the end, did Cohn -- Gary Cohn get his way on trade? BANNON: He did not. INGRAHAM: No, Bob Lighthizer did. Trump did. BANNON: By the way, that's the power of -- INGRAHAM: Trump did. BANNON: They said to "Politico," what President Trump ought to do on the book is buy a million copies and air drop them into the congressional districts who got to win. Here's what it shows, that President Trump had the right idea from the beginning. He understands what economic war with China and he's going to brin all forces of the government to bear in that economic war. Cohn and Porter and all this crowd that fought in the committee to save America, which the book is basically the typed up notes, the two central parts, the war -- economic war against China and Afghanistan, in which the president was lied -- he was lied to and he was misled, about the cost of Afghanistan and what type of control we had over the country. That's why Mattis just went to Afghanistan to try -- to try to bail themselves and by the way, they were not upfront and truthful to the president of the United States. And so if you look at -- and they say in there that he has the temperament of a 5-year-old. I told "Politico" today, if that is a five-year-old, I want more 5-year- olds on the National Security Council. Here is a guy that -- in everything they say in the book about his trade policies and economics, always dead wrong. INGRAHAM: Obama has taken credit for the economy. You got this manufacturing boom blue collar jobs, wages going up for the lowest wage workers. They said it would never happen. It's happening. He's killing it on the jobs front, Obama is taking credit on Friday. BANNON: By the way, not just Obama but also the Bush administration. Let's be brutally honest -- INGRAHAM: And anonymous is taking credit. BANNON: A lot of the anonymous are people from the Bush administration, establishment Republicans. The establishment Republicans and the Democrats have been about managed decline in the United States of America. President Trump is a disrupter. He's an innovator. And this is what drives him nuts, because of his policy -- and what he's doing is reorienting the world's supply chain back to United States, that's why Mexico has just cut a deal with us. That is why the E.U. is going to cut a deal with us. That's why Korea and Japan are going to cut deals with us. He's winning. He -- INGRAHAM: Is he a nationalist. BANNON: Absolutely. Economic nationalist, absolutely. You can tell what he's doing on trade. He's bringing jobs back just like he said he's going to do. They hate that. Goldman Sachs, Gary Cohn and these guys are the investor relations department of the Chinese regime. INGRAHAM: They are all bought into China. BANNON: A hundred percent. INGRAHAM: Their chips are on China. BANNON: What they told Trump was that the rise of China is like the second law -- INGRAHAM: Inevitable. BANNON: It's like the second law of thermodynamics, some law of physics that can be turned around. And Trump said, that's not true. And he's been relentless. The book opens where they are stealing, they're taking off his desk the deal about NAFTA and about Korea. They said it was terrible, Trump didn't know. Eventually got around to it. He renegotiated NAFTA. He renegotiated Korea, and he's renegotiating in the process of taking the supply chain back from China. INGRAHAM: Why was Omarosa hired? BANNON: She was on the campaign. By the way, Omarosa was very good on the campaign. INGRAHAM: She was effective. BANNON: She was very effective on the campaign. She did a terrific job, we had we had to throw Omarosa into some very tough situations, and I think that is why -- INGRAHAM: She was taping conversations. BANNON: I think that's why Reince, in hindsight, Reince and people had to make straightforward decision. INGRAHAM: Looking forward to seeing the film. Can't wait to see it. BANNON: "Trump at War." Go to TrumpatWar.com. INGRAHAM: TrumpatWar.com, and you can find out more. You can watch the trailer if you haven't seen it already. A lot of you already have. The attacks on President Trump seem to be more and more coordinated, as Steve said. So are they? A debate on that next. INGRAHAM: From Bob Woodward's new book to the anonymous "New York Times" op-ed to the Brett Kavanaugh Senate hearings to the Obama comeback to the political stage, well, there appears to be an all-out coordinated attack from the resistance against President Trump. The Hoover Institution's Victor Davis Hanson calls this the circus of resistance in a great piece that ties all these events together. Joining us for a conversation debate, Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent and NRATV host, Victor Davis Hanson, of course senior fellow at the Hoover Institute, and Chris Hahn, here with me in the studio, I never get to see him, former aide to Senator Chuck Schumer, radio talk show host. All right, VDH, let's start with you. Coordinated, is Woodward calling up Omarosa? Is that what you mean, or is it just the constant drumbeat? VICTOR DAVIS HANSON, HOOVER INSTITUTION: No, I didn't say it was people got into a room as the Senate Democrats did with the Kavanaugh hearing, not like that. But here we are 60 days out, and suddenly we have an unsourced, unnamed, anonymous op-ed which is very rare in journalistic press by "The New York Times" alleging all these bad things that Trump did, and they are stylistic. There is not any citation that the Iran deal, canceling the Iran deal, getting out of their Paris Accord or negotiating are impeachable offenses. And he says he is member of the, quote, resistance. And then four days later, the same theme is again exhibited in Bob Woodward's advance copies of a climate of incompetence. And then Barack Obama, unlike past presidents, now decides suddenly he is going to go out on the campaign trail. And he can't decide when he says that Trump is basically a clear and present danger and he is so dangerous that he's taking credit for all these good things that are happening that really should belong to Obama. And then we have this really tragic situation where the McCain funeral follow the script of the Paul Wellstone 16 years ago were turned into a pep rally. And then McCain's theme was sort of channeled by the anonymous. And there is one thing about all of those that is strange and is common, and that is it's a complaint against style and temperament and so-called civility, but it's juxtaposed to a record booming economy and a record of achievement -- INGRAHAM: But it's Obama's economy. But it is Obama's economy, Victor David Hanson. HANSON: It doesn't matter overseas because he's uncivil, or he's doing so bad that it's mine. I want to claim that bad record. INGRAHAM: We've got to play some of this Obama from Friday. CHRIS HAHN, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Please, I loved it. Play a lot. INGRAHAM: This is the guy, two-term president, very charismatic, but I don't like people that try to take credit for other people stuff. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: When you hear how great the economy is doing right now, let's just remember when this recovery started. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: When the recovery started. HANSON: When did it start? It started in 2009. INGRAHAM: Remember, Barack Obama last year was saying, in 2016, he thinks he's going to wave a wand and bring back these manufacturing jobs. He didn't wave a wand but he did have sensible policies. Booming manufacturing, wages going up in blue-collar, even CNBC had to do a piece today basically admitting that the addition of the manufacturing jobs under Trump has been astounding and it dwarfs what Obama did. HAHN: No question at all, the economy is doing great right now. But it didn't just start the day the man took office. Let's be very clear. INGRAHAM: The growth of manufacturing, which they said would not happen in blue-collar and manufacturing, they said it wouldn't happen from Steve Ratner to Barack Obama, and it's happening under Trump. HAHN: The growth in manufacturing under Trump is a product of the booming economy, a product of developing markets overseas where wages are rising. It's natural to happen. It started under Obama and it has continued. Don't forget, the jobs that Obama was creating, the economy was creating about 20,000 jobs more per month than they have been under the Trump administration over the last two years of the Obama administration. So it's not like this just happened. INGRAHAM: There were jobs created, but again, this goes back to the resistance, Dan Bongino. Do you agree with what Victor Davis Hanson was saying? DAN BONGINO, FORMER NYPD OFFICER: Yes, Victor is right. Listen, the politics of the swamp forever has been about two commodities -- connections and money. And Donald Trump is a threat to both of those things. He doesn't give a rat's caboose about your connections because he doesn't need them, and he certainly doesn't need your money. But to Chris' point, too, I love debating with Chris, he's a good friend, but he rarely, if ever, knows the numbers, and he doesn't know the numbers either. Barack Obama led the worst recovery from recession in modern American history. This is just a statistical, numeric fact. I know it's hard for liberals to digest, but it's a matter of fact. HAHN: Come on. BONGINO: Notice what he does, Laura. Then he goes right to the stock market because he can't argue but I just said -- HAHN: It's 11 million jobs. BONGINO: The jobs, Donna Brazile herself in a disclosed email you can all read on the Internet acknowledged in 2016 that the jobs created under the Obama administration were part-time jobs. They were not full-time jobs. And Chris's number about that is wrong, too. HAHN: That's not true, either. BONGINO: Full-time equivalent jobs, Donald Trump, 4.1 million. Obama, 3.3 million. HAHN: The right's favorite number during the Obama years were job participation, which is down a quarter percent under Trump. So let's be clear. INGRAHAM: I think the main thing, and Victor, you've talked about this before, almost out of time, but wages are going up. That is what all the economists have been looking for. They were flat under Obama. HANSON: In the last 12 months, wages of the middle class worker have gotten off three percent. That is a funny number, three, because Barack Obama was the first modern president never to achieve three percent annualized GDP growth. The reason he didn't was because he put on new regulations, he had this neo-socialist Obamacare health plan, and he jawboned to the economy. He said, you didn't build that, now is not the time -- INGRAHAM: People were not as optimistic. HANSON: And he raised taxes, and it created a climate where people did not want to invest. INGRAHAM: There was an anemic recovery. There was a recovery, but just the numbers don't lie. Guys, I wish we had an hour on this. Thank you so much for joining me. By the way, Serena Williams had a messy loss during the U.S. Open final, an amazing player but a sad, sad event because of how this all went down. Now she is in some circles becoming like the Colin Kaepernick figure of tennis. So how did that happen? Feminist hero or a sore loser, we'll discuss it next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Serena was watching her coach give her hand signals. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Verbal abuse. SERENA WILLIAMS, TENNIS PLAYER: I'm here fighting for women's rights and for women's equality, and for all kinds of stuff. And for me to say, thief, and for him to take a game, it made me feel like it was a sexist remark. He's never took again from a man because they said their. For me, it blows my mind. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And now, tennis superstar Serena Williams is being fined $17,000 for three code violations during Saturday's U.S. Open final. We at the Ingraham household were watching every minute. Williams lost to Japan's Naomi Osaka, and Williams says the critical penalties lodged against her by that match's male umpire were indeed sexist, as you just heard. But this isn't the first time she's tangled with referees or umpires, even female ones. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Really, really -- that's as angry as I've ever seen her. You can't call that there. She's done it again. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wow. Violations. Violated for water? Really? Don't even look at me. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What did she say, don't even look at me? She's now their martyr for the female cause that many supporters are now claiming. Joining me with reactions is John Lloyd, a British and former tennis star and occasional commentator, along with sports agent Anthony Tall. All right, John, you've been out there on the court, just a few years ago, and I loved watching them play any part should be 70s in '80s. It is high-pressure. Was this a sexist call by the chair umpire? JOHN LLOYD, FORMER PRO TENNIS PLAYER: No, no, no. Not at all. Carlos Ramos is a stickler for the rules. That is the way he is, and he went by the book. The three things that he called Serena for were correct. Could he have handled it differently? Could he have been a bit softer and maybe said something to her at the changeover and turned the mic off and said, listen, Serena, I can see the coaching going on. Tell your coach to cut it out, and then maybe this thing wouldn't have started. Perhaps. But once it started, this was Serena -- it was a bad day for her at the office, and you can't say that sort of stuff to the umpire, not these days. These umpires are very professional, they have rulebooks. Carlos Ramos is known for keeping the rules straight. You've got to use your common sense here and back off when the times were getting bad. INGRAHAM: And Anthony, I'll go to you. You're a sports agent, you handle a lot of high-profile folks. Margaret Court, who is the record holder in tennis grand slam, she is considered the grand dame of the sport, she was quoted as saying, the rules are the rules, and she doesn't like it when players try to pretend they are bigger than the game. Your reaction? ANTHONY TALL, SPORTS AGENT: Yes, I think that Serena was having a really tough day. I think she was a little more upset with what was going on against Osaka as opposed to what the ref was saying to her. However, this has been a tough year with her with her getting random tests, random drug tests that she feels has been unfair, particularly coming off of her new child. Remember, this has hasn't been the sport that has been so welcoming to her and her sister. Remember, when they first came out, this was a whole new look, two black girls from Compton, and they took this sport by storm. So she has felt a whole bunch of different things over her 20 year career, 20 some plus year career -- INGRAHAM: I know. Anthony, she's a global superstar, and there have been glowing profiles about -- and John, you can chime in quickly, she has been lauded by everyone and everywhere, and she is the star still of tennis. Osaka is probably the next generation. But I don't know. My daughter and I were watching it together, she's 13, she doesn't even watch tennis very often, and she just kept looking at me, going, I can't believe she's speaking to the umpire that way. She doesn't even play tennis. John? LLOYD: I believe that Serena and Venus, it's the greatest sports story in history, what they've achieved. Don't take that away from them because it has been unbelievable from where they came from and how their father predicted they were both be number one in the world, and they've achieved that. They've been amazing. This, though, was a bad by Serena. Could the umpire perhaps to diffuse the situation better? Perhaps. But Serena, I don't think, knew the rules. I don't think she realized she was about to a game penalty. I don't think she realized there was a three step to the rules, which the umpire enforced correctly, and she just lost it. You can't do that kind of thing, and it was a bad day for her. INGRAHAM: Another woman, Anthony, who has been obviously a superstar in her own right in her own day, I grew up watching Martina Navratilova. And she said basically this sort of behavior, this is the sort of behavior that no one should be engaging in on the court. They have been many times when I was playing that I wanted to break my racket into 1,000 pieces, then I thought about the kids watching, and I grudgingly held onto that racket. One of the greatest players who ever lived in women's tennis. Anthony, close it out. TALL: And like I said, I think she was more frustrated with what was going on. But I will say, John McEnroe has done much worse. And that was her point. But she was frustrated. INGRAHAM: That's not sexist. TALL: She's a global circus door. I don't know if it is sexist, but that was what she felt. INGRAHAM: This is not sexist and tennis -- let's have tennis be one of the few sports that is no longer political, OK? We don't want any politics in sports. Guys, great segment. Thanks so much. And when we return, what I found on the streets of Chicago and what all those social justice warriors should be demanding today, next. INGRAHAM: So called social justice warriors are good at protest but not so good at diagnosing what's ailing at-risk communities. There is no better example of this than in Chicago, the relentless cycle of violence that grips parts of it. On Friday night, we aired a powerful town hall, got incredible kudos, thank you for sending them, featuring officials and residents from the south and west side in search of solutions. While many liberal activists will tell you police or in part responsible for fueling the chaos, the officers who face off with these murderous gangs beg to differ. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: First of all, we have had 2,025 shootings in the city up-to-date as of today. First of all, it did not start yesterday. It started several years ago when they decided to underfund and underman the police department. We are still almost 1,000 policemen short of where we need to be. INGRAHAM: Hold on. Everyone has to understand, you are 1,000 police officers short on the city of Chicago today? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We only have half of the detectives that we need. We used to have 2,000 detectives. INGRAHAM: How many do you have now? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just about 1,000. INGRAHAM: What is the reason for that? What do the politicians say? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have to ask the mayor, Rahm Emanuel, for that answer. Our opinions doesn't count. That's part of the problem. And that is what has to change. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: We also highlighted the horrific human and emotional toll this violence takes, and there are few examples more upsetting to the core then the cause of Demetrius Griffin Jr. He is a 15-year-old boy who was reportedly burned alive in 2016 after a gang tried unsuccessfully to recruit him. Demetrius' aunt, Rochelle Sykes, spoke with us about the murder. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROCHELLE SYKES: He wasn't in a gang. He didn't do drugs. What is it that he could have done so bad that a monster would take his life like that, and then two blocks from his home? We have to pass that block every time we visit my mom. I can't go into the house without hearing him say titi, I did this, titi, I did that. He was looking so forward to high school. He only did two weeks of high school. He wanted to be on the swim team. He loved dogs, he loved animals. Why would you do that? Why would you burn someone alive? And then why is there such a code of silence that you did not hear him hollering for help and did nothing? INGRAHAM: No one saw anything? SYKES: No one saw anything. INGRAHAM: No one said they saw anything. SYKES: Yes. INGRAHAM: Did Mayor Emanuel call you? SYKES: No, we have not heard from either one of them yet. INGRAHAM: Is not acceptable to any of you? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Rather than staging protests, maybe the NFL players, more of them at least, and politicians, should focus on safety, family, personal responsibility, and education. Some of them are. But their foundations, all of those, for real social justice. When we come back, the latest on the treacherous path of hurricane Florence. Stay right there. INGRAHAM: Now an update on hurricane Florence. It's currently a massive category four storm, ferocious, sustained winds up to now 140 miles per hour. Meteorologists don't expect that to diminish any time soon. It actually may reach category five status tomorrow. The latest computer models say the storm will most likely make landfall on Thursday around the time of this broadcast. The National Hurricane Center just came out with an update just moments ago saying there will be live, threatening storm surges along the coastlines of North and South Carolina, along with Virginia. So stay safe out there, please. Listen to what authorities are telling you. Now, Shannon Bream and the FOX NEWS @ NIGHT team are here to take it from here with details on that and a lot more. Shannon? Load-Date: September 11, 2018 End of Document Sixty Days Until Crucial Midterm Elections; Obama Launches Midterm Message for Dems; Interview with Rudy Giuliani; Republican Lawmakers Calling on President Trump to Declassify the Highly Redacted FISA Warrant on Trump Campaign Aide Carter Page and Other Documents; Former President Obama Lifting His Own Chair by Claiming that the Economy Was Running Good Under President Trump Because of What He Started and that President Trump just Inherited It from Him; Obama Says He Attacks the Media but Never Aimed to Shut Down those Who Disagrees with Him Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 7, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7481 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Ed Henry Guests: John Solomon, Victoria Toensing, Rudy Giuliani, Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: And welcome to HANNITY this Friday night. Everything is at stake. In 60 days, you, the American people, you will decide the fate of this country. The Democrats, they are out for blood. They want to impeach the president and now they are rolling out their savior, the anointed one, Barack Obama, all over the country to tell you how to vote. Of course, he wants to destroy the Trump agenda, he wants to preserve the deep state, he wants to decide your future after all of his failure because he thinks he knows better. Now, tonight, with the help of a new report from John Solomon, we will connect all of the dots tonight. We'll show you just how malignant and dangerous this country's bureaucracy had become. Bruce Ohr, Peter Strzok, Andrew McCabe, Page, all of them, the other unelected officials trying to rig an election, influence your vote, stop Donald Trump, the president you voted for. They tried before he was elected. They've tried to undermine him ever since. Now we've got anonymous, a figure inside the administration claiming the Trump presidency will soon be over one way or another. Is that a veiled threat coming from the deep state? Plus, we have new developments surrounding FISA abuse in the investigation. Andrew McCabe, we now know there is a grand jury convened and he may be just the person many officials who are about to be in serious legal trouble. Buckle up. It is time for the Friday edition, news breaking, opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: He totally wrecked the economy, more debt than every other president before him combined. He failed to stop the rise of ISIS. Billions of dollars to the Iranians mullah that actually were chanting "Death to America." He ignored Putin's massive power grab, Crimea, Ukraine. Neglected the simmering crisis in North Korea and, yes, he's back, just in time for midterm elections, and he wants to tell you how to vote. Earlier today, Barack Hussein Obama delivered this so called warning to America. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: I'm here today because this is one of those pivotal moments when every one of us, as citizens of the United States, need to determine just who it is that we are. Just what it is that we stand for. And as a fellow citizen, not as an ex-president, but as a fellow citizen, I'm here to deliver a simple message, and that is that you need to vote because our democracy depends on it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, what an sanctimonious one. As Reagan said, stay the force. They have former President Obama -- well, he is actually right about one thing, because in 60 days, remember 2016, it was about the forgotten men and women of this country. If you don't go out and vote, the consequences will be dire. The Trump agenda, they will stop in its tracks. Obama's friends in Congress that brought us to the brink of economic catastrophe and weakness and apology on the world stage -- guess what? They want power back. They want to stop Trump. And they want to impeach him. Now, we're going to have an important monologue about the midterms you can't afford to miss. That's later in the show, including more of Obama's lo hypocritical, self-righteous remarks that should make your blood boil. All right. But first our investigation into the deep state rolls on tonight and what we have now uncovered is now beginning to connect all of the dots. I think we now understand what the insurance policy is, worse than we originally thought. The foundation of this republic is now shaken to its core. The biggest abuse of power scandal in history. You've got a few unelected high-ranking officials inside of our government trying and almost exceeding to alter the course of this country's history. At the very center of it all is the man whose name should be seared into your brain. Bruce Ohr. He is the face now of the deep state corruption. And according to a damning investigative report from "The Hill's" John Solomon, in the summer of 2016, it was Ohr, remember he was the fourth highest ranking member of the DOJ, tampering with an on going FBI investigation into so called Russian collusion. Why? To destroy then candidate Donald Trump. We'll break it down step by step, layer by layer. Here's what we know: 2016, Hillary Clinton wanted dirt on her opponent, Donald Trump. This is after she got her exoneration without an investigation. That's another part of the story. Her campaign and DNC, well, they funneled money through a law firm that was called Perkins Coie, that hires Fusion GPS, an op research firm. And then, of course, they attempted to literally hire a foreign national, which we thought was a bad thing for America. That was Christopher Steele, former MI-6 spy. And don't forget, Nellie Ohr is the wife of DOJ official Bruce Ohr. She's working on the phony what turned out to be Russian dossier, specifically Russian dirt that's on Donald Trump that nobody bothered to verify. Well, not so coincidentally, at the same time, the FBI was also paying Christopher Steele. They later fired him for lying and leaking in their Russia investigation. But now we know that Bruce Ohr had his dirty little fingers all over this. It was Bruce Ohr who pushed the FBI to use the Steele campaign opposition research. Remember, he was a hater. He wanted to stop Trump. It was Bruce Ohr. Meaning Steele. It was Ohr who spread Steele's phony dossier throughout the government, to lie to the American people. It was Ohr who became a back channel. Remember, 70-plus contacts of Christopher Steele even after he was fired by the FBI for leading anti- Trump, leaking it to the press in this country. That means to you. It was Bruce Ohr who knew that Steele was completely bias, desperate to stop Trump at all costs and that Ohr wrote that Steele was passionate about Donald Trump never being president. Bruce Ohr knew of the dossier was biased, would never hold up in court. He knew it was tainted, he knew it was not verified or corroborated, and yet he pushed that information into the grateful hands of anti-Trump agent Strzok and Lisa Page, and even the pit bull himself, Andrew Weissmann. So, you got to -- you start with Hillary's campaign, they fund it. They funneled the money. It gets to a foreign spy, a foreign agent. He puts in -- he hates Trump. He gets phony Russian information. It's disseminated to you, the American people, and it gets worse from there. None of this should happen in America. You have a political campaign, the DOJ working together, coordinating their efforts, literally to stop one candidate over another candidate. This is a humiliating smear on the country's system of justice. And it gets worse because the phony, political, dirty Russian dossier that Hillary paid for, never verified, was used as the very basis for FISA warrants to spy on a Trump campaign associate. Let's see. Jim Comey signed off on the FISA request, Sally Yates, Dana Boente, Rod Rosenstein, Andrew McCabe, all signed off on it. And tonight, we can report that fired Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe is now facing a real serious criminal investigation. We know tonight a grand jury has been impaneled by federal prosecutors, multiple witnesses have been summoned, as the former deputy director is accused of using his position to advance his personal political interests. If justice is served, the McCabe investigation should just be the tip of the iceberg. Everyone who committed this fraud on the FISA court using unverified information, the Steele dossier by a Trump hater probably should be investigated and prosecuted. That would mean Comey and Yates and, yes, the guy that did the last one, Rod Rosenstein. The guy that appointed Mueller need to be held accountable. Multiple Republican lawmakers now demanding the president declassify and unredact parts of FISA documents. On top of that, the 302s as it relates to Bruce Ohr, and Christopher Steele, and the "Gang of Eight" material. We're expecting the president could make this information available as early as this weekend. Now, we're talking about everything that the "Gang of Eight" had. We know the specific pages of FISA that we had. Apparently exculpatory information on Carter Page. And even somebody like Papadopoulos, who was just sentenced to 14 days in jail, $28 million later. This information must be released. You, the American people, have a right to know how a fraud was committed on an FISA court against the Trump campaign associate. Not once, but multiple times. They never verified any of this information that turned out to be false. They purposely omitted information that would have had an impact on these judges. That's lying by omission. And what we've shown you each and every night right here on this program is what is a scary level of corruption that's only risen to the surface because Hillary didn't win in spite of all these efforts. If she won, we wouldn't know any of this. The deep state would be alive and well, working behind the scenes corruptly, undermining your vote, what you want for your country. It's biggest abuse of power scandal ever. Now, thankfully, the president is breaking up some china in Washington. He's smashing the status quo. He's shattering all the establishment politics. The old rules are gone. That's why one such cowardly bureaucrat who claims to be a senior official in the Trump administration acting out in "The New York Times" op-ed, claiming to be part of the so-called resistance. Really, within our government? We have a resistance? Wow. We have sleeper cells within our government? This is a clear and present danger to the country. Now, in an interview on "Fox and Friends", the president slammed this anonymous "New York Times," and "The Times" itself for publishing this nonsense. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think this audience would say that an attack on you is an attack on the people that voted for you. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you -- (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you any closer to knowing who did it and what should be done if you find out who did it? TRUMP: Well, number one, "The Times" should not have done that because really what they've done is virtually, you know, it's treason, you can call it a lot of things. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That is beyond unacceptable. It's like a soft coup aided and abetted by the corrupt media in this country. "Washington Post" reporting sleeper cells within our own government -- think about that -- inside the administration. What? To undermine the commander-in-chief? Does this so-called senior official have a security clearance, access to top secret information, sources, methods and potentially compromised? Does he hear the president talking about war and peace? You know? And, look at this particularly alarming part of the article. Look at this. We will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until -- one way or another -- it's over. One way or another? What is one way or another? Voted out? Impeached? Die in office? Is that a veiled threat? Where's the Secret Service? Either way, given this person's alleged proximity to the president, it should be investigated and treated as matter of national security. Now, perhaps the president should use the Obama model and track down the anonymous saboteur. According to reports, no previous president was more tough on leakers than Obama. I know, shocking. He subjected his own staff to lie detector test, prosecuted multiple individuals, He targeted members of the press who published leaked stories, including former Fox News reporter James Rosen, who was surveilled, even accused of being a co-conspirator because he dared to report with anonymous sources inside the Obama White House. That was Obama that did all that. Meanwhile, the super patriot who authored this op-ed in "The New York Times," if you were truly working behind the scenes for the benefit of the country, why not stay behind the scenes? Why risk exposure in a very public way? Because this individual, unelected and unaccountable, they think their truth is better than what the president ran on, what the American people voted for. And he's pushing their political agenda, he or her, who ever it happens to be. That they know better than we, the smelly Walmart people, and those opinions are of more value than your opinions. But ultimately this is an attack on the presidency and the country. The country can get hurt in this process. The very reason why President Trump and the Secret Service now must do everything in their power to dismantle the deep state and find out whoever this is. We got a lot to get to tonight. Joining us now FOX News contributor, investigative reporter Sara Carter, former assistant U.S. attorney, Victoria Toensing. And yes, Victoria has done legal work for me. And she said I was the worst client she ever had. And "The Hill's" John Solomon, who -- let's start with your story here. JOHN SOLOMON, THE HILL: Sure. HANNITY: Mueller's probe, let's get into what you have discovered as it relates to Ohr, because now we have maybe an answer to the insurance policy question because it includes Page, Strzok or Steele, and McCabe? SOLOMON: Yes. If you're going to create a company called Destroy Trump Inc, the board of directors would be that group right there, right? HANNITY: Scary. SOLOMON: They all had a motive. They all did things to advance the investigation. Sometimes we believe in violation of the FBI's rules, certainly a conflict of interest rules. And now, we know that they were really action in July, that what happened in July wasn't an organic walk in of intelligence that raised concern. It was Bruce Ohr taking information from his wife's company, Fusion GPS, and Christopher Steele, walking it over to the FBI and literally redirecting the FBI to a different piece of evidence than what they started with. Remember what they started with. George Papadopoulos. Big case, right? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Yes, 15 days, $28 million, 14 days and the president tweeted that out -- SOLOMON: And we now know from our reporting that early on, the FBI found out that the Papadopoulos thing wasn't as serious as they thought. Bruce Ohr steps in, he gives them something else to go follow. HANNITY: By the way, didn't the professor in London say -- SOLOMON: He did. No big deal. Nothing there. HANNITY: Nothing there. SOLOMON: Nothingburger. That's what he called it. HANNITY: Nothingburger. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: What else did you get in your report? SOLOMON: I think at the end of the day, what we now know is that throughout this process, Ohr is acting like a steer. He's steering this investigation. He's putting the FBI onto something else. And we now know that what he was using, the Steele dossier, he himself thought it was uncorroborated, unverified, not worthy of being submitted to the court, and yet Andy McCabe and all those people you said in your monologue and signed it, they represented that it had been corroborated. Good enough for a FISA warrant. There has to be an investigation of how this went wrong. HANNITY: And, Sara, we go back, in your reporting as well, on all the things, the communication, 70 communications at least, meetings, texts, handwritten notes. What did we find? Christopher Steele was afraid he'd be exposed. He wanted fire walls to hold. He was passing information through Ohr to go directly to the special counsel's office. So, that would be Hillary Clinton's bought and paid for lies, ending up right in the office of Robert Mueller, vis-a-vis his pit bull, Andrew Weissmann. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Think of how bad this is, Sean. I mean, if you look at John's story, and we focused on Bruce Ohr, yes, that's one part of a much bigger puzzle. We've seen now that there's a resistance within the administration, within the bureaucracy, against the presidency of the United States, meaning against the people of this country. We're now seeing the pieces of this puzzle just kind of fit and fall together. They were on a fishing expedition to take this president down, to take candidate Trump down and then to go after president Trump. And they haven't stopped. This is so dangerous because I want us to take a step back. This isn't just about what happened right now. Remember the State Department was involved in this. Victoria Nuland was involved in this. John Kerry knew what was going on. There were other dossiers out there. And now, I'm hearing there's even more dossiers that we haven't discovered that were put together by Fusion GPS and spread out across Washington, D.C. So, this was an active disinformation effort to take down a candidate that people elected and is still on going. HANNITY: Let me ask, Victoria, and you've been around Washington politics a long time. And you've seen a lot over the years. But when you see anonymous people unelected and unaccountable thinking they know better than the president of the United States, we don't know what their classification is, what they may have access or not have access to, it seems extraordinarily dangerous, quote, resistance within our own government and around the president of the United States. Sooner or later, one way or another, it's over. And then Andrew McCabe, of course, we now know grand jury has been impaneled. VICTORIA TOENSING, FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY: Well, I'll tell you -- I'll tell you what bothers me, Sean. I'm not at all Bruce Ohr was involved in this plots months before, because what do you think? He wasn't talking to his wife and what she was doing early on in 2016? What bothers me as a former Justice Department official, because I know how it works, is that he was working in a counterintelligence investigation. This -- he is in charge of criminal investigations. That's like separation of church and state. I never got involved in counterintelligence investigations when I was the head of the criminal investigation unit. They are very different people. They're very different FBI agents that you work with and they're very different rules for collecting evidence. So I am appalled that this wasn't a big red sign. And if he were really an honest dude, which he isn't, we all know, he would have gone to Sally Yates and say, something really bad is going on here. No. He was participating in it. And here's what really bothers me about the FISA -- what they did to FISA. They purposely lied to the FISA court about Carter Page. I mean, he is really a big victim in all of this. The FBI, word in Washington is from -- in the affidavit, that they said, the FBI said, in 2013, that Carter Page was in cahoots with the Russians as opposed to being in FBI asset and helping them bring an indictment against Russian spy. More than that, they went after him for giving a speech in Moscow at the New Economic School. Guess who else made a speech there, Sean? (CROSSTALK) TOENSING: Barack Obama in 2009. HANNITY: Exactly. Let me ask you all one last question. And -- should the president declassify, unredact, and what does it mean that we now know a grand jury has been impaneled? Does that mean everyone involved in FISA is in trouble? SOLOMON: Well, we don't know the scope of the grand jury investigation. We know it definitely involves McCabe lying to the media. If that reason about lying was, they used the media to set up the FISA warrant to get -- create corroborated evidence that wasn't corroborating, then this moves -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Declassification. SOLOMON: Opens this all up. We're going to find out all the things that were omitted, all the omissions. And in this case, it's going to be omissions -- the sin of omission that misled this court. HANNITY: Sara, both on declassification -- go ahead. CARTER: Absolutely. The American people deserve to know the truth. We deserve to know the truth. Those agencies need to be cleaned out, gutted out, and we need to move forward with our country. Absolutely, Sean. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And, Victoria, this will be the Spartacus moment? TOENSING: Yes, I am Spartacus. If the president doesn't do it, he's on defense, and he's got to be on offense because that's his nature. HANNITY: And if he is, that would mean declassify, unredact and let the American people see. And, Sara, I know you've been saying, and, John, you have been saying, this will be on a scale of 1 to 10? Or what? SOLOMON: A 9, 10 maybe. HANNITY: Nine or 10. Sara? CARTER: I believe a 10 and beyond. HANNITY: Do you know? Everyone's seen it but me. I don't know anything. I thought my sources were better. All right. Good to see you both. When we come back, the president's attorney, Rudy Giuliani. Also later, Newt Gingrich, and I've got a special message for Barack Hussein Obama tonight. That's coming up. HANNITY: Yesterday, President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani told the "Associated Press" the president will not answer questions for Robert Mueller about obstruction of justice. The mayor is now with us, president's attorney. Mr. Mayor, good to see you, sir. How are you? RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ATTORNEY: How are you? HANNITY: OK. Obstruction is off the table. They're not even asking for it or? GIULIANI: No, no, they're asking for it, and the only way we would ever consider it is if we would get the questions on collusion first, which we have agreed to do. We'll review them. If they're fair, if they're comprehensive, if there's no holding back of questions so they can ask questions in a later round, if it's done in good faith. Then when we finish that, we'll sit with them and talk about any further questions to whether -- we'll talk about any further questions about collusion or obstruction. The problem with obstruction is this. It all takes place post-presidency. To agree to it would really be to waive major presidential privilege. Also, it would involve very, very deep conversations that are very much under the protected branch of government. And finally, they don't need it. One of the things they would have to show is they have particularized need. In other words, they couldn't get it any other way. So far, every question we think they're going to ask, they have the answer to it. HANNITY: And 1.4 million documents. Don McGahn, this surprised me to find out Don McGahn, the White House counsel, gave 30 hours of testimony? GIULIANI: After 34 hours of testimony, HANNITY: Wow. GIULIANI: -- you don't need anything else. They have 1.4 million documents, 32 witnesses. Here's the big question on obstruction. Why did you fire Comey? Well -- HANNITY: He doesn't have to answer that. GIULIANI: He shouldn't have to answer that. He has the right to fire Comey. HANNITY: Article II. GIULIANI: Plus, they had the answer. Take the Lester Holt tape. Play it. There's your answer. Now, if you want him under oath to repeat that, you only want him under oath because you have some nefarious purpose. HANNITY: In your previous life, people kind of forget, it's -- next week is 9/11, what, 17 years later. But in your previous life, before being the major of New York, you were a prosecutor. So you make the statement, I'll even say, maybe inarticulate, but especially for those outside the legal community, in legal jargon, what you were saying and Alan Dershowitz defended you strongly on this, is that if Don McGahn gives testimony, you said 34 hours. I thought it was 30. And they interviewed the president and he says one thing that contradicts Don McGahn, they get to decide who's telling the truth. GIULIANI: Yes. Do I want -- do I want 17 angry Democrats to decide -- HANNITY: Andrew Weissmann and Jeannie Rhee? No. GIULIANI: Give me a break. I mean, maybe they've shown too much bias to think that they would be objective and fair. The reality is, it's one on one, he said/she said, there can be no determination of truth, which is why I said what I said. I mean, the fact is, even in a criminal trial, you don't prove truth. You prove whether -- have you proved guilt beyond a reasonable guilt. Not all doubt. HANNITY: Reasonable. GIULIANI: Yes, reasonable doubt. So, somebody could be convicted beyond a reasonable doubt. It's not all doubt. Somebody that's guilty may not be convicted because there isn't proof beyond a reasonable doubt. You got to be naive to think that it's a search for pure objective truth. But I said that only place they can find truth is if you go to Chuck Todd's little magic room and "Meet the Press" can figure out the truth, because he's the one complaining about this. HANNITY: Now, there's a phrase in "The Washington Post" this week talking about this anonymous. The sleeper cells have awakened in the United States, meaning the resistance within the administration. There's one line that really caught my attention, I was talking about it earlier, is that, so we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction, until one way or another, it's over. Why do I think that should be a Secret Service investigation and nobody seems to pick up on it? This is an unelected, unaccountable, anonymous bureaucrat. GIULIANI: Maybe with top secret clearance. HANNITY: Maybe hears the president talking about war, peace, sources, methods intelligence. GIULIANI: Maybe he decides that a very damaging piece of information on national security should be leaked, because it would hurt Donald Trump without regard to whether it would hurt the nation, because whoever elected him to be the repository of determining what should be secret and what shouldn't be secret. This is a perfect perversion of what it means to be in federal office. This man or woman, we think man, right, unless he's lying about that, too. HANNITY: Right. GIULIANI: This man should quit and hold a press conference. That would be the honorable thing to do. This is why I don't think it's any of the generals. I don't think it's anybody ever went to West Point. Pompeo put it best. Pompeo said, I was taught, if you disagree with the boss, you decide how important it is. If it's not important, you stay. If it's conscience, you leave. And you stand up, like a hero. This is no hero. This is a little -- this is a slime dweller (ph). HANNITY: It's also dangerous. GIULIANI: Dangerous? It's exceedingly dangerous, because this man decided he's the repository of -- HANNITY: Truth. GIULIANI: -- of truth. Again, what I'm telling you. All these left wingers (ph) think they know truth. HANNITY: More than of course -- GIULIANI: You know who knows truth? God. God knows truth. We do the best we can to struggle with it. And hopefully, we get close to it. HANNITY: But the president ran, the president was elected, the president will be held accountable. The president has -- the American people gave him the seal of approval, not this anonymous person. All right. Mayor, good to see you. Now the big question, House lawmakers calling on the president to declassify documents that are related to FISA abuse 302. Ed Henry has a full report tonight. We'll get congressional reaction later. Jim Jordan, Matt Getz later. Well, I have a message and a mini monologue to Barack Hussein Obama. That's coming up. HANNITY: All right. So Republican lawmakers on Capitol Hill they are calling on President Trump to declassify the highly redacted FISA warrant on Trump campaign aide Carter Page and other documents. Joining us now with more is Fox News chief correspondent, White House correspondent Ed Henry. They want more than -- they the exact pages 10 through 12 in the final FISA warrant, the third renewal warrant application. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Yes. HANNITY: That the Rosenstein one. Pages 10 to 12, 17 to 34, they want all of the Bruce Ohr 302's. They want all the gang of eight documents. HENRY: Right. HANNITY: They want the Page and Strzok memos all released. So they're asking for a lot. The president can do it with the stroke of a pen. HENRY: That's right. And the 302's are the FBI interviews basically. These are sensitive documents that normally don't leak out. But what we're hearing from people close to the White House is that the president appear to be inching closer to releasing some of this information, number one. And number two, the people around the president believe that some pieces are now falling into place in the allegations that the president and others have been raising about the investigation of the investigators. First of all, what we've learned the last 24 hours or so is that there has been a grand jury in Washington impaneled to investigate Andrew McCabe, the former number two at the FBI. That's important because remember, what is being investigated for is allegedly lying about his contacts with the media. That's what got him fired from the FBI job in the first place. HANNITY: We know if there's more though. HENRY: Yes. And that's the question. It's because in the course of the investigation, the testimony that Bruce Ohr has given to Congress in the last couple of weeks, there have been questions raised about the fact that Bruce Ohr at one point met with both his wife Nellie who was over at Fusion GPS digging up dirt on Donald Trump, and you see Bruce Ohr there. As well as, Christopher Steele. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: McCabe. HENRY: Right. Page and then-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Strzok. HENRY: Right. Then they talk to Page and Strzok. And there's some sort of a meeting we believe between Ohr and McCabe. And so the question is, was there a lot more here that has not been previously disclosed, number one. And number two, you're hearing from Democrats in Washington that this information is too sensitive to be released. But interesting they're making that argument, Sean, right after you had Cory Booker at the Supreme Court hearing saying, let's release everything. We need to know everything we can. So, the idea that Democrats have spent the last week saying we need more transparency, that might actually bolster the case for Republicans in Congress to release this info. HANNITY: Might be as early as next week according to people I'm talking to. Ed Henry, thank you for the report. (CROSSTALK) HENRY: Good to see you. HANNITY: Joining us now with reaction, Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan, Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz. You know, when you look at the people that Ed mentioned in his report, Page, and Strzok, Bruce Ohr and McCabe, we've got all the essential figures in the insurance policy aspect of this. One has to wonder, is this now -- and Christopher Steele, one has to now wonder is that where this is leading to, Jim Jordan? REP. JIM JORDAN (R), OHIO: Yes. The first guy that Bruce Ohr talks to after he meets with Christopher Steele is Andy McCabe. He called him up a day or two later. And then meets with him and Lisa Page. So all of the key people at the FBI knew what was going on before they take the dossier to the court. They knew the Ohr's involvement. They knew who paid for the dossier. And they knew that the guy who wrote it, Christopher Steele, had told Bruce Ohr that he was desperate to stop Trump. And we don't believe they conveyed any of that critical information to the FISA court when they went to get the warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. That's why this is so important. We get it. They knew this up front when it started late July, early August. That's why this is so critical that this information become public. HANNITY: And that if you've got Page, Strzok, Ohr, Steele, and McCabe, you got the whole insurance policy, Matt Gaetz. (CROSSTALK) JORDAN: And-- REP. MATT GAETZ (R), FLORIDA: Yes. It's almost like you've got the board of directors of the deep state together, Sean. You know what I mean-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But they all hate Trump. The one thing in common, they all hate Donald Trump. JORDAN: Andrew Weissmann too, as well, Sean. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And he get -- you're right. Because let me say one more thing. Because Ohr is hearing from Christopher Steele over 70 contacts. And not only are they talking about fire walls, not wanting to be exposed. But, also did you get my stuff to the special counsel, which we now know the contact was Andrew Weissmann. GAETZ: And Sean, to put a finer point on what Jim had said, it's not the statements or words in these documents that we're looking for, it's the omissions. JORDAN: Yes. GAETZ: It's the information that is not presented to the courts. So I mean, we caught the Ohrs red-handed. You got Bruce Ohr shuttling information to the FBI that was developed by his wife and the money paying for it all came from the DNC. I mean, the Ohrs are probably the most dangerous power couple in the Washington since the Clintons were running around this place. And I think that until we get the information about what was presented to the FISA we won't know the full depth of the misconduct at the FBI and the Department of Justice to inappropriately lie to a court. And I think that penalties are just starting to rack up. HANNITY: Well let's go to the issue that we know the grand jury is impaneled, Jim Jordan. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: And that is the issue of unredacting by the president and declassifying by the president is do we have any idea? We know witnesses are called. Does that mean that everybody that was involved in that phony, fraudulent, Clinton bought and paid for dossier, the fraud on the court and information withheld purposely, more fraud on the court. Is everybody that signed that now in legal jeopardy perhaps? JORDAN: We'll see. What we do know is, the FBI and the DOJ had a sophisticated leaking project going on. Andrew McCabe lied about that, according to the inspector general, three times under oath and faces a criminal referral. And as Ed pointed out, there's now a grand jury being impaneled on the Andrew McCabe issue. So, this is what they did, I believe. They leaked information to the press and then they used their reports the press wrote to buttress the false dossier to give it legitimacy when it was a false document. That was the game that was being played. And we know that from Devin Nunes memo that the intelligence committee put out where they cite news reports to add weight to the dossier. It was all baloney this circular games they plane. That's I think may be the biggest concern that we see. HANNITY: All right. Last word, Matt Gaetz. (CROSSTALK) GAETZ: And we may see member -- yes, we may see members of the media caught up in that as well, Sean. You'll remember there was a reference in the inspector general's report, so members of the media inappropriately giving gifts to people of the FBI to get stories and get tips. That may have been facilitated the illegal leaks and I think people could go to jail for it. HANNITY: All right. Great work. We'll see if that happens. Maybe as early as this weekend or early next week. Good to see you both. When we come back, I have a message for Barack Obama. A Hannity Friday mini monologue. And by the way, his comments about Trump will be pretty important. We'll remind him of himself straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. So, today, President Obama he thrusted himself back into the political spotlight. He was sanctimonious smug lecturing you, the American people. He wants to tell you how to vote because we, smelly Wal- Mart people that cling to our god cons bibles and religion, well, we can't be trusted to make important decisions. Only 60 days from today left until you head to the polls. And I keep reminding him what's at stake here come November. By the way that's the subject of tonight's mini monologue. All right. So President Obama said that Americans need to vote in November because our democracy depends on it. OK. What I'm about to say may shock some people. He's right. This November election is more important than any midterm in our life time. The stakes couldn't be higher. Democrats have proven again and again they will do anything, say everything and anything, to get their power back, to make sure, even if Donald Trump fails, no matter how much it hurts the country. We cannot let this happen. Now today President Obama tried attack and take credit for the economic successes we are now seeing. It's not true, but we'll show it to you. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA (D), FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: When you hear how great the economy is doing right now, let's just remember when this recovery started. (APPLAUSE) OBAMA: I'm glad it's continued. But when you hear about this economic miracle that's been going on. When the job numbers come out, monthly job numbers, suddenly Republicans are saying it's a miracle. I have to kind of remind them, actually those job numbers are the same as they were in 2015 and 2016. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Actually fake news. You didn't build that. Let's remind Obama about the economy left remember, under his watch, 95 million Americans out of the labor force. Thanks to President Obama's stellar leadership, we had the lower labor participation rate since the '70s. We now have the highest. We had the lowest homeownership rate in 51 years. Obama, eight years of Obama, 13 million more Americans on food stamps. Eight million more Americans in poverty. We now have four million fewer Americans on food stamps, four million new jobs. Under him, anemic growth, endless burdens of regulation, lowest consumer confidence. That was the Obama economy and he took on more debt than every other president before him combined. He can spin it any way he wants but we, the American people, are smart enough not to believe the fake news that he was trying to feed us today. Now President Trump responded to Obama's outrageous claims as he tried to claim victory when he was a failure. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think he was trying to take some credit. He was trying to take credit for this incredible thing that's happening to our country. If the Democrats got -- I have to say this to President Obama. And it wasn't him, but would have been the same thing. If the Democrats got in with their agenda in November of almost two years ago, instead of having 4.2 up, I believe honestly you'd have 4.2 down. You'd be negative. You'd be in negative numbers. You'd be in negative numbers. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The Atlanta Fed right now is predicting 4.7 percent GDP growth for the third quarter. Obama also took shots at the president's foreign policy while ignoring his own blunders during his tenure in the White House. Let's see Iran and I'll have more flexibility, tell Putin. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: They're undermining our alliances, cozying up to Russia. What happened to the Republican Party? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now Trump has been tougher on Russia than Obama ever was. Remember it was Obama, basically the one guy that ignored Russia's power grab. Remember Ukraine, Crimea? It was Obama who allowed Russia to prop up Assad, the Syrian dictator gassing his own people. Obama gave Clinton the reset button. How dumb that was. Remember he was promising, I'll have more flexibility after the election. Tell Vladimir. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF STATE: I wanted to present you with a little gift which represents what President Obama and Vice President Biden and I have been saying. And that is, we want to reset our relationship. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So let's do it together. CLINTON: We will do it together. OK? OBAMA: This is my last election. DMITRY MEDVEDEV, FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF RUSSIA: I understand. OBAMA: After the election I'll have more flexibility. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: A hundred fifty billion to Iranians. By the way, expressed this admiration for his friends and allies in the main stream media which shouldn't surprise us. They helped push their Obama radical agenda. They never held them accountable. It was a love fest from day one. He was the anointed one. They gave him a pass for hanging out with, let's see, Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn. That's where he started his political career. Make excuses 20 plus years in the pew of Mr. G.D. America. And America's chickens have gone home to roost. And it shouldn't shock anybody that Obama is going to defend his media friends. But once again today, Obama he still can't stop taking shots at Fox. Can't help himself. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: It shouldn't be Democratic or Republican to say that we don't threaten the freedom of the press because-- (APPLAUSE) OBAMA: -- they say things or public stories we don't like. I complained plenty about Fox News. But you never heard me threaten to shut them down. Or called them enemies of the people. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Actually more fake news, a Hannity history lesson. Obama took multiple shots at Fox News, this show in particular, during his presidency. And since Obama seems to have a blind spot in his memory, we got the tape to remind him. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OMABA: I'll put -- I'll put Mr. Burgess up against Sean Hannity. He'll tear him up. I mean, look, is Sean Hannity suddenly going get on air and say I was wrong about this Obama guy? He's my man. No. That's not going happen. I think that there's a certain segment of hard core Sean Hannity fans that probably wouldn't want to have a beer with me. There's no doubt about it. If you watch Fox News on a regular basis, it is a constant menu. They will find folks like who make me mad. I don't know where they find them. I wasn't viewed through this prism of Fox News and conservative media. It making me scary. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He whined the whole time. And by the way, wanted Mr. Burgess to tear me up. Wow. Obama did talk to Fox News. Here's an example. In 2009, the Obama White House tried to exclude Fox News from a press pool interview with administration officials. In 2013 the story broke the Obama DOJ under the leadership of Mr. Holder they actually spied on one of our reporters at the time, James Rosen. They looked through Rosen's phone calls and his e-mails from 2009 while attempting to find a source for one of Rosen's stories. So what you heard from Obama today was nothing more than fake news and liberal spin. This is why this midterm election is so important. He's right about one thing. It's important. I can't stress enough. Yes, a lot in the country's at stake. Democrats win in November, you stay home, well, this is what's going happen. They'll rescind the tax cuts. They want their crumbs back. That's right. Nancy Pelosi calls them crumbs and she wants them back. And that's the money in your pay check that will be gone. They want to impeach President Trump. It's not a secret. Chucky Schumer openly admitted it just this past week. Here's him in his own words. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: Sooner the better. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sooner the better. That's not answering the question. SCHUMER: We got to get a few Republicans. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're trying. We're trying. SCHUMER: Democrats are on your side. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: They want to impeach him but they're trying not to say it. And then of course, they want to keep Obamacare. How did that work out? Keep your doctor, keep your plan, pay less? Not very well. This week, we saw just how low they'll scoop to block a Supreme Court pick of President Trump. Democrats want, what, to abolish ICE? They want open borders. They will kill off every single deep state investigation that's going on right now and they'll be investigating Donald Trump from now until the cows come home. Now when we come back Newt Gingrich is going to weigh in on the anonymous New York Times op-ed and how dangerous this is for the country. That's straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Earlier, I spoke to former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich about the anonymous New York Times op-ed how dangerous it is and he didn't hold back his feelings about the saboteur. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER UNITED STATES SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: If you pretended to be for Trump, you get an appointment to the White House, to the executive branch, you claim you are for what he's doing and then you write this extraordinary piece in the New York Times saying, by the way, I want to systematically undermine him. I mean, that's as unpatriotic as you can be because it undermines the whole base of our Constitution. This is a country where the people are supposed to have a say. And, as you remember, in 2016, the Republican side of that equation, 16 people lost Donald Trump won. Pretty clear cut. You get to the general election, billion dollar campaign for Hillary Clinton, total support from the liberal media, she lost. This article will be seen someday by historians as a really good example of how sick the system has become and how arrogant the elites have become that they can just repudiate the American people and try to impose their views. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Extraordinarily well said. All right. That's, unfortunately, all the time we have left this weekend. A busy news week next week, I can promise you that. Let not your heart be troubled. Laura Ingraham is coming up next. We hope you have a great weekend. We'll see you on Monday. Load-Date: September 8, 2018 End of Document FISA Abuses Exposed; President Trump Holds Rally in Montana Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 6, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8423 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter Guests: John Solomon Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Hey, Tucker, by the way, thanks. You're not taking my time tonight. I got to go through this fast because the president is about to take my time. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST, TUCKER CARLSON SHOW: No. Yes, you do. HANNITY: I know. All right, my friend. Good show. And this is a FOX News alert. Huge "Make America Great" rally is about to start in the great state of Montana. President Trump expected to take the stage very soon. We'll bring you live coverage of a speech in a few minutes. First, we have so much critical breaking news to cover. We start with our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: A lot of news tonight, I do not want to get it in, our top story, something that Trump will likely confront tonight head-on at his rally. Yesterday, an anonymous figure claiming to be a senior official in the Trump administration authoring an op-ed in "The New York Times" bashing the president and his agenda, and telling lies. In the deep state, unelected Washington bureaucrats, actually thinks he or she knows more than you. They know more about who should be president. Your vote to them means nothing. We are smelly, Walmart, irredeemable, deplorable us to them. All the while this anonymous figure hides behind the liberal "New York Times", they are complicit in this. Now, "The Washington Post," get this, reporting that sleeper cells have awoken inside the executive branch of the United States of America. Think about that -- a sleeper cell. A senior official who might have access to top-secret classified information, who might have the privileged insider knowledge about sources and methods, that's people's lives, now actively working within our government against your commander-in-chief. The media won't say this, I will. This is extraordinarily dangerous to this great constitutional republic. The disgusting hate Trump media, they are complicit in this cowardly betrayal. Moments ago, President Trump tweeted the following, are the investigative so-called journalist of "The New York Times," are they going to investigate themselves? Who is the anonymous letter writer? Of course, this coward could be one of literally hundreds of senior level employees in the executive branch. We know that Trump's senior cabinet members and the close advisors are vehemently denying writing this op-ed tonight. We are calling whoever you are, come forward. You have purposely mischaracterized the president's conservative policies in your op-ed. In other words, you are lying about his effective handling of the economy, North Korea, his top approach towards Russia. You obviously have your own agenda, your own political personal bias. You are in an unelected, unaccountable, anonymous official. The American people did not hire you to do this. You have access perhaps to intelligence, methods. You have knowledge of the president's plans to defend America? If so, are you going to try to undermine that? It's the right thing to do. If you really care about the country as you so claimed to do as a super patriot, come forward. This country's safety is obviously not the goal of whoever this mysterious figure is. Nor does the corrupt media in this country even care. What would happen if resistant sleeper cells had emerged in Obama's White House? Would the media be all in on that? This is all political. Working in the shadows, undermining a sitting, duly elected president from within. These are the actions of a deep state super patriot who thinks they know better than you, we, us, we the people. These are actions of someone who thinks that Trump never deserved to be president. That we, we were all wrong. These are the actions of someone who cares, what, about democracy and the sanctity of your vote? No. And what does the op-ed author mean, what does he mean when he writes this, until one way or another it's over, meaning the Trump presidency? Is that a threat to the president of the United States, one way or another? What does that mean? Because that can be interpreted as a threat to the president. I hope the secret service is looking. Now, sooner or later, whoever you are, you'll be gone, and by gone I mean caught, exposed, fired, and probably held accountable for these horrible deeds, whatever you have done. Now, we turn to another top story. This is huge news tonight. Breaking only minutes ago, "The Hill's" John reporting that Christopher Steele's phony Russian dossier was likely the basis for the ongoing witch hunt into Trump Russia so-called collusion after it was pushed by several high ranking deep state officials who all shared one thing in common -- a political hatred for Donald Trump. This is what Solomon writes, quote: There is now growing confidence that the FBI's sudden pivot from Papadopoulos to Steele was driven by several officials, all with serious political baggage. Now, we're talking about Andrew McCabe, Page, Strzok, and, of course, Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele, all Trump haters. And according to Solomon, we're learning that Bruce Ohr was attempting to actually steer the FBI so- called Russia collusion investigation toward the phony Steele dossier, much earlier than we previously thought. Now, several officials, all with serious political baggage, as he describes them, remember this is the dossier -- with this will all be traced back to Hillary. Many of the same figures protected her so she could stay in the race by exonerating her after she obviously committed felonies and crimes, and, of course, the DNC, Clinton, funded this phony Russian Steele dossier before the 2016 election. They funneled that money to a law firm, that money then goes to Fusion GPS, they hire a foreign national, a spy, Christopher Steele, and, by the way, the wife of a high- ranking, fourth highest ranking member of the DOJ, Nellie Ohr, you put it altogether, op research, unverified lies against Donald Trump. Nobody verify this information, nobody. Even Steele himself said under oath, the contents were raw intelligence. He did not even stand by his own dossier. But it gets worst -- the dossier is leaked to the press. Why? To influence you the American people with Russian lies and worst than that. It spread throughout the highest levels of our federal government by Nellie Ohr's husband, Bruce Ohr -- again, the fourth highest ranking official of the DOJ. And then it was used as the very basis for FISA warrants against the Trump campaign associate, Carter Page. And, by the way, I'm told they withheld exculpatory evidence. That's the very basis for what is now Mueller's witch hunt. Ohr even briefed -- this is amazing, it starts with Hillary, the DNC, they pay for it, they get the money through -- funneled money to an op research group. Then they hire Christopher Steele, and then, of course, it's being used to get FISA warrants, but it's also being funneled to Mueller's pit bull, as described by "The New York Times", Andrew Weissmann. The contents of the dossier, he's updated through Bruce Ohr, 70 contacts Ohr and Steele have together. Hillary to Steele to Russia, right into Rob Mueller's office, Russian lies. You can't make this up. This is insane. A web of corruption and abuse of power surrounding a foreign actor, a phony Russian dossier in an effort to stop this man from becoming president, and then destroy him after he did. Now, we did tonight reach out to all of the deep state actors mentioned in Solomon's breaking report. So far, no response. But tonight, we do have some positive elements to report. We have 12 Republican lawmakers now calling on President Trump to declassify the retracted parts of multiple FISA documents, oh, specifically pages 10 through 12, 17 to 34. That could be released as early as tomorrow or next week. And lawmakers now believe this retracted information, along with 302s, the "Gang of Eight", can explain and might have exculpatory evidence on Carter Page and other information how the Steele dossier, how a fraud was committed on the court, and how an attempt to sabotage a sitting president. We'll have a lot more on this tonight. Also, more positive FISA developments. One former official who signed off on a FISA request against Page, we now know is subject of a grand jury investigation. That's called progress. Finally. Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe fired for lying and now, he may face serious legal issues. And my guess is, this grand jury we now have confirmed is convened will look at everyone who committed a fraud on the FISA court, who signed off on the unverified, uncorroborated, phony Russian, Clinton paid for dossier, and the lies by omission like not telling the court, even though they knew it, that Hillary paid for it all. Andrew McCabe's attorney responding to us tonight, brushing it off as nothing more than, you know, the standard procedure, we all know better. This is why elections matter. If elected, 61 days, Democrats, they will obstruct the president's efforts to drain the swamp. And just like they are trying in vain to obstruct the nomination of Judge Kavanaugh. And today, New Jersey senator, likely presidential hopeful, Cory Booker, he headlined the Democrats' pathetic political grandstanding, threatening to break Senate rules, released confidential documents about Kavanaugh to the general public. Our own a Shannon Bream and others reporting, however, the documents -- they had previously been released. And not only that, Cory Booker was told they were released. So, still he had to put on a show based on what he already knew was released for his adoring fans because he is running for president. I don't have time to run it now, but then he went on to call his actions today a Spartacus moment, even though he did zero, nothing courageous. He broke no rules, he faced a no consequences, just a blatant play to his base so he can run for president in 2020. But in Booker's is mind, he rose to a level of a Roman gladiator risking it all for a cause, calling himself a hero for doing absolutely nothing. It's like a Colin Kaepernick going one and 11. And then after that, of course, saying oh, it's -- the NFL is unfair to me. John Solomon, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter with us. The president is walking on stage, let's talk first and we'll get to the president's speech. Tell us about your reporting. JOHN SOLOMON, THE HILL: So, in the summer, July 30th, the day before the FBI opens the investigation on the Trump campaign, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Christopher Steele meet at a restaurant. As soon as they get out and they compared their notes and what Steele says he has on Trump, he calls Andy McCabe. He meets with Andy McCabe a few days later, and by the 15th, he's meeting with Pete Strzok. And that is why this investigation -- HANNITY: They're all together, the Trump haters. SOLOMON: They're all together. And remember, all of them have, all of them have an issue with Trump or with Clinton, there's no doubt about it. And so, we thought that the Trump, the Steele dossier kind of blocked into normal channels. We now know that Ohr and Steele steered it in. And that's going to become a really -- something's been withheld from Congress longtime. HANNITY: All right. What about the fact, Sara, that they gave us information to Robert Mueller's office? That the Steele information. Remember, Steele writing Ohr and all of the messages back and forth. Oh, did you get it to your friend and that special counsel. Oh, we don't want to be exposed. Oh, I hope the firewalls hold. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I was just going to say that, hope of the firewalls hold, but they didn't hold, and they were panicking about that, Sean. I mean, look what happened with Andrew Weissmann. Now, we know for a fact that a Ohr was in communication with Weissmann. That he was basically passing information or trying to pass information to Robert Mueller's office. I think this investigation, the scope of this investigation is going to get so much wider. And now that McCabe is under a grand jury investigation, imagine what they are going to find. I mean, we have spent years just trying to peel back the layers of this onion, and now, we finally discover all of these connections and all of these players. But going back to John's story, it is so vitally important, this timeline - - HANNITY: All right. Sara -- CARTER: -- because Nellie Ohr, you know, she was -- she was working early on for Fusion GPS. HANNITY: Let's get a quick comment -- by the way, Gregg, Sara, John are with us for the hour. We're going to dip into the president's speech. Well, why don't we do that now as he takes to the podium, big -- obviously, a long ovation for the president. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATESS: Hello, Montana. This is going to be a lot of fun. Thank you. (APPLAUSE) There's no place like a Rosendale rally, forget Trump. Rosendale. But there is no place like a Trump rally, right? We have a good time. We have a good time. (APPLAUSE) And in the election, we won this state by a lot. That was not close. But I am thrilled to be back in Big Sky Country with so many of my great friends and true American patriots. Thank you. (APPLAUSE) Thank you. From the Rocky Mountains to the Great Plains, the people of Montana love our country, love our country so much. They honor our values, and you always respect our great American flag. You see what's happening. (APPLAUSE) This is an incredible time for our nation. We have the best economy in history. The stock market is at record highs. Unemployment is at historic lows. And more Americans are working today than ever, ever, ever before. (APPLAUSE) That's a great stat, isn't it? Think of it. More Americans today. And it grows every week. Every week, it gets higher, higher. But more Americans are working today than have ever worked before in our country. A great stat. That's a big stat. (APPLAUSE) Our coal miners are back to work. (APPLAUSE) And we are fighting every day for our great ranchers and loggers and farmers, and we're winning that fight and we're winning it quickly. We're rebuilding our military, crushing the terrorists, and taking care of our veterans. (APPLAUSE) America is winning again, and America is being respected again. As you all saw this week, the Senate is now considering a truly exceptional nominee for the United States Supreme Court, Judge Brett Kavanaugh. (APPLAUSE) And he's doing really well. But do you believe the anger and the meanness on the other side? (AUDIENCE BOOS) Sick. It's sick! The whole country is now seeing his amazing intellect and his brilliant legal mind. Judge Kavanaugh deserves overwhelming bipartisan support. And I think he's going to be one of our truly great Supreme Court justices. (APPLAUSE) So tonight we're joined by truly terrific Republican leaders from the great state of Montana, including a friend of mine, an incredible senator, somebody that works so hard, and I can tell you -- I don't want to embarrass him -- but I'm going to tell you, he loves you, Senator Steve Daines. Where is Steve? (APPLAUSE) Thank you, Steve. Great job. Steve is a worker and he does an incredible job. You also have a great attorney general, who I've gotten to know over the years, Tim Fox, doing a fantastic job. Thank you, Tim. Thanks, Tim. Your secretary of state, Corey Stapleton. Corey? Thanks, Corey. State Superintendent of Public Instruction, and he's just -- I mean, this is a fantastic person, Elsie Arntzen. Elsie, thank you. Thank you, Elsie. Great job. Been fantastic. You are really -- she has done some job. I've heard all about you, your reputation. Thank you very much. And your outstanding Montana GOP Chairwoman Debra Lamb. (APPLAUSE) So, Debra, how are we doing now compared to Election Day almost three years ago? Could you believe it? How are we doing? Better? Even better? Good. That's what we're doing in most states. And the states that we won, we're doing better. Thank you. Thanks. Great job. Great job, Debra. I'm also thrilled to be joined by Montana's terrific member of Congress, a true champion for Montana, and I'll tell you what, this man has fought in more ways than one for your state. He has fought for your state. (APPLAUSE) Greg Gianforte. He is a fighter and a winner. He's a winner. Great. (APPLAUSE) He loves your state. Thank you very much, Greg. Great job. Everybody has to get out and vote for Greg and vote for people that are going to vote for us, because without that, you're going to lose a lot of the things that we've won over the last two years. You're going to lose them, and you're going to lose them fast. Can't let that happen. But I'm here for a very specific reason. Please welcome the person that we have such respect for, he's now leading in the polls. (APPLAUSE) But I don't want to say that. I want to say he's just a little bit, like, one or two points behind. Is that OK, Matt, for me to say that? But he is somebody who is going to be a phenomenal United States senator from Montana, Matt Rosendale. Matt, come on up. (APPLAUSE) Matt? Where is Matt? Come on up, Matt. Come on up, Matt. ROSENDALE: Welcome back to Montana, Mr. President. HANNITY: All right. As we get a break with the president speaking, we go back to John Solomon, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett. Gregg, you've been also following John's breaking news today on top of Sara's news, and on top of -- it seems like the unredacted materials that everyone is requesting, FISA warrants, 302s, and other issues that could be exculpatory, even people like Papadopoulos and Page, this could all be coming out tomorrow or within days. Talk about John's report and the unreductions, or the president literally freeing this information that Congress has been seeking forever. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Well, Congress deserves this information. They are legally entitled to it. It's under subpoena and the Department of Justice and the FBI have been obstructing justice and obstructing Congress. And the president can put a stop to it with a wave of his pen, four different sets of documents. And I'm told they will not only be exculpatory of the president himself, but they will be explosive in the level that the FBI and Department of Justice engaged in, that they use false intelligence knowingly to target and frame Donald Trump -- to launch this dilating investigation of him, and to spy on the Trump campaign through a FISA wiretap warrant. So, the American people deserve to get to the bottom of this and the only way is -- sunshine is the best disinfectant. HANNITY: Let me go back to John Solomon. JARRETT: Let Americans read these documents. HANNITY: John, you're breaking news report, this is a profound piece. And, you know, I could pull it out here, you go to the headline of your piece. Ohr's efforts to secretly reshape the Trump probe started in early 2016. Now, we know that Ohr and Steele are close. SOLOMON: Right. HANNITY: Steele is funneling information as I was pointing out to Sara to Andrew Weissmann. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: So, Hillary Clinton's Russian paid for lies make it all the way to Mueller's special counsel office. But more importantly, Bruce Ohr is the conduit. Seventy plus contacts with Steele, meetings, text, written messages. SOLOMON: And who does he bring to the meeting? The meeting that they're going to talk about where it launches him toward the FBI, he brings his wife. The conflict of interest is sitting at the table. HANNITY: And Lisa Page. SOLOMON: And Lisa Page comes -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And Peter Strzok, and Andrew McCabe. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: And they are all Trump haters. SOLOMON: And Weissmann. HANNITY: OK. So, now, the question is this. Is this the insurance policy? Exposed? SOLOMON: I think it is. And here's what I -- here's the theory that I have been hearing from people who really know about this. They started the investigation of Papadopoulos. They got some exculpatory information that Papadopoulos wasn't what they thought it was. They should have shut it down. Steele walks in the door and allows them to keep it open without getting in trouble. That's going to be what we learn I think when these documents get unsealed. And I think everything Gregg and Sara have reported the last two years, they're all going to be corroborated by those documents. HANNITY: I know that -- I, too, by the way. SOLOMON: Yes, of course. HANNITY: We've been went out on little bit of a limb with all of you, so it's a team right here. SOLOMON: Right. HANNITY: But let me go to Sara. The other big news that the news doesn't focus on at all because they're not news, they're fake news -- the grand jury -- we now know a grand jury is convened and that witnesses are appearing before the grand jury. This is about McCabe, but I believe it's also going to be about Sally Gates, Jim Comey, and Ron Rosenstein, because they all signed the phony FISA warrant. The Russian lies with grand omissions that they never verified, Sara. CARTER: This is Rosenstein's FISA. And I say this over and over again because he signed the fourth FISA warrant, the fourth part of that warrant was that the renewal, the last renewal, on Carter Page. Sean, he had all of the information of the previous FISAs at his beck and call. And he can't make up any excuses, he put his signature on that. He can't say, well, I let somebody else read it. No, it was your job. This is about a presidential campaign. This is an investigation into the president of the United States, Ron Rosenstein, it is your job to ensure that that FISA was solid, that that FISA abided by the law. And now what we know -- HANNITY: Wait a minute, if the grand jury is convened and witnesses are being heard and he signed the last FISA when we had all the information for sure, then was the bulk of information in the phony Steele, Clinton paid for dossier, I'm not Rosenstein, I'm scared to death tonight. CARTER: Oh, I would be scared to death, too. And what we have to look at is, you know, with John's story, I think this is so important, and we've got to go to the big picture, Sean, because if you step back, the FBI is investigating Trump because apparently, they believe that there was some kind of collusion with the Russians. But the FBI had no problem putting Russian lies into a FISA warrant to spy on American citizen. So, back to the collusion -- the collusion does not appear to be anywhere near President Trump. It appears to be directly with the higher officials at the FBI. HANNITY: Real quick, John, what does that mean for Rod, James, Andrew and Sally? SOLOMON: Here's a great question. Bruce Ohr worked directly under Rod Rosenstein when he signed that fourth warrant. But Bruce Ohr says, I know it was hearsay. How could Ron Rosenstein -- HANNITY: Inadmissible. SOLOMON: Yes, inadmissible and hearsay. Uncorroborated. Ron Rosenstein, should he have the ability to sign FISAs going forward, that's a great question he should ask the Justice Department. HANNITY: Is it possible he doesn't? We don't know. SOLOMON: We have to ask that question. That's a question I've had pending for a couple of days at the Justice Department. HANNITY: All right. Back to President Trump and we'll continue with John, Sara and Gregg straight ahead. TRUMP: And, by the way, you obstruct these justices, you're going to lose your Second Amendment. You're going to lose your right to those guns. You're going to lose your Second Amendment. So, be careful. Be careful. Be careful. (AUDIENCE BOOS) And don't forget, Tester is going to vote with the Waters and the Pelosi. Can you imagine? Maxine Waters is your new leader in the party. (AUDIENCE BOOS) Can you believe it? Maxine Waters. She's sure something. But he's going to vote for Schumer. They're going to do whatever they say. They -- I will say this. I will say this. The one thing, their policies are horrible. They're for open borders, meaning let all the crime come in. They're against so many things that you want. You know, I've been saying and I've been saying it strongly, they're going to take away -- they're going to hurt your Social Security so badly, and they're killing you on Medicare. Just remember that. I'm going to protect your Social Security. We're going to take care of your Social Security. Matt Rosendale is going to make sure we're not touching your Social Security and your Medicare is only going one way. That's stronger. They're going to end up taking it away from you, and you won't even know what happened. And on top of that, you're going to pay more taxes. It's crazy. Jon Tester will never drain the swamp, because he happens to live in the swamp and he loves the swamp. (AUDIENCE BOOS) Jon Tester -- I feel a little guilty, because, you know, he did run the most beautiful commercial. I heard yesterday it started, and he's like my best friend, President Trump this, President Trump that. It's amazing when you win a state by a lot of points how even Democrats can like you. Isn't that crazy? But the problem is, he's never going to vote for me. He's not going to vote. But he's taken more cash from lobbyists than almost anyone in the entire Senate. He's controlled by his donors. One of the saddest things I've seen is when Jon Tester and what he did to a great, great man, Admiral Ronnie Jackson. (AUDIENCE BOOS) Admiral Jackson was subjected to horrible lies and smears. Now, I'm, you know, a victim of that, too, but I'm sort of getting used to it. (LAUGHTER) At least it's my job. You know, I was going to say I'm a politician. I never thought I was going to say I'm a politician. Can you believe -- I guess I'm a politician, you know? (APPLAUSE) I guess I'm a politician. Think of it. I didn't want to say that. One of the few times I've said it. Yeah, I'm a politician. But, you know, I've only run once, and that was for president, and I won. How did that happen? Right? Wasn't that nice? I run once and I won. (APPLAUSE) A lot of people have spent their lives trying to be president. We know them all. Some we respect, and some we don't respect too much. But Ronnie Jackson, he's a doctor, he's an admiral. He's actually the doctor that gave me my physical. And he said that I'm in great shape. (APPLAUSE) And the Democrats and liberals, and deep state, they were very upset to hear that. So they got tougher and tougher, and they lied more, and they write more books now. I never saw -- I have books that are stacked up this high. Actually, the ones that are really good are number one, two, and three on the bestsellers list, right? The ones - - the really good ones by Justice, you know -- I call her Justice, but she's judge, but she's Justice to me -- Jeanine, we love her. Judge Jeanine. By Gregg Jarrett. How about Bongino? He's got a very successful book. How about Bongino? So many. And they're all doing great. And that's what makes me happy. But the media doesn't talk about those books. No, they talk about the bad ones, of which there are plenty. They're lies, but they're plenty. But Admiral Jackson, his reputation was attacked. And all of those horrible things that were said about him turned out to be lies and they turned out to be false. Remember? People don't want to say that. In the last election, Washington Democrats put Jon Tester in charge of electing extreme liberals. I mean, I'm talking about serious liberals, many of whom you're watching attacking Judge Kavanaugh and looking like fools, frankly. Looking like fools. (APPLAUSE) And one of them will most likely be a candidate to run against your favorite of all time president, me. Me. (APPLAUSE) But when I see the anger in their eyes, when I see the anger of what they say, to an intellect far greater than theirs, not even a contest, but I see the anger and the hatred, what's -- what are they doing? What are they doing? They're losing by doing it. They're losing by doing it. I just want to finish off, though. What Tester did to Admiral Jackson should never, ever be allowed. Ronnie Jackson is a great man. Ronnie Jackson has led a great and beautiful life. And to have lies told about him, I would never repeat what they are. See, in my case, they repeat them. I say don't repeat them, they're terrible. They say, no, we're going to deny them. Do we love Sean Hannity, by the way? Right? (APPLAUSE) I love him. But here's the only thing. He puts up all these losers that say horrible things. I've got to talk to him. One after another. Donald Trump, he's lost it up here. And it's pretty tough. I stand up here giving speeches for an hour- and-a-half, many times without notes. And then they say he's lost it. And yet we have 25,000 people showing up to speeches. (APPLAUSE) And by the way, look at all the fake news back there. (AUDIENCE BOOS) Donald Trump. They go Donald trump. You know, it's really funny. Donald Trump's lost it. So I beat 17 great Republicans, I beat senators, I beat governors, a couple of people, great people, like Ben Carson. I beat a lot of great people. Ben Carson was tough. But I beat 17 great people. And I respectfully say, I beat the Bush dynasty. OK? (APPLAUSE) That felt good. Pretty recently. OK. Now I have the privilege of going against crooked Hillary Clinton. (AUDIENCE BOOS) So I beat -- I beat crooked Hillary. (APPLAUSE) I beat crooked Hillary. And the Electoral College is hard. It's, frankly, if we didn't know better, and maybe we're starting to find things out that we didn't know, it's hard and harder to win than popular vote. Popular vote, you go to three, four states, and boom, boom, boom, you win the -- it's like the hundred yard dash versus running the mile. You practice differently. She forgot that. She forgot to go to a couple of very important states. Gee, I don't think I'm going to go to Michigan too much. I don't think I'm going to go, she said, to Wisconsin. I do hear her husband said, you know, you better go to Michigan, you better start going to Wisconsin. Well, fortunately, she didn't listen to that. But -- but think of it. So I beat the Republicans, governors, senators. I beat the Bush dynasty. Respectfully. I beat Hillary, who stole it from Bernie. Bernie should have won, but that's OK. They stole it. Superdelegates. How do you like superdelegates? But she's got superdelegates that were handed to her. Bernie should be angry. Why isn't he angry? Crazy Bernie. He is so crazy. But, you know what, I saw him the other day on television. And he's ranting and raving. He's sitting behind a microphone, "I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this, blah, blah, blah," the hair's flying, he's going crazy. He's going crazy. And I said to my wife, "Honey, look at that guy. You got to hand it to him." No, you've got to hand it to him. He doesn't quit. He doesn't give up. I just don't understand why he allowed that to happen, and he goes back into being an independent. But now he's coming back in, and I guess he's going to run. He's going to run. But think of it. So you beat two dynasties, you beat all these politicians. Charles Krauthammer, when I announced that I was going to run... (APPLAUSE) ... he said, why would he run? This is the -- well, he didn't know me, so I'm not insulted. He said, this is the finest field of Republicans ever assembled. I actually did -- I looked at my wife, I said, you know, that's his business. He just said these are the finest ever assembled. Why am I doing this? And then I said, ah, that's OK, I'll do it anyway. Let's see what happens. Let's see what happens. So I beat all these senators, all these governors, all these brilliant political minds. Then I beat the other side. And then I listened. Is he competent? I think I'm pretty competent, right? Don't you think so? (APPLAUSE) Is he competent? And their ratings are down the tubes. You know why? Because people get it. They really get it. But it is funny to hear that you have all these victories -- and, you know what, more important than those victories, we're winning in the United States now. We're winning on trade. We're winning with our military. We're knocking the hell out of the terrorists. We're winning now in the United States. You look at what's going on. We have new deals being made. We have a deal we just made with Mexico. That's a fair deal. It's not that horrendous deal that was made years ago that should have been changed years ago. We're negotiating with Canada. We'll see what happens. We're in a little bit of a skirmish, but doing really well with China. You see what's going on. Really well. (APPLAUSE) I have great respect for President Xi of China. But honestly, we have to be treated fairly. Last year, we had a trade deficit of anywhere from $375 billion -- with a B dollars -- to, I say, $504 billion. Either one is not acceptable. So we're doing that. And it's working out very well. I just came on stage, and I was told that Kim Jong Un said some terrific things about me. He said I have faith in President Trump. (APPLAUSE) Think of this. You don't hear that from them. And just moments ago, they put on -- they put on that he said very strongly that we want to denuclearize North Korea during President Trump's tenure. That's a nice -- he just said it. Just said it. (APPLAUSE) But in the meantime, even if he didn't, even if he didn't, we got our hostages back. There's been no more missile testing. There's been no more rockets flying over Japan. There's been no more nuclear testing. And we have a good feeling. He likes me, I like him. Who knows what's going to happen? But I can tell you what, the day before I took office -- and even, I must say, because as you know, the rhetoric was fairly tough -- it's interesting. With him, I had very tough rhetoric. And the fake news was saying it's too tough, he's going to get us into the war. It's terrible, he's being too tough. It's horrible. What does he know about this? He knows nothing. I watched all of these guys who have been losing for 30 years explaining why my method of negotiation wasn't working. Right? (APPLAUSE) And I'll tell you what, I respect him, and he respects me. And I think something is going to happen. Take your time. I say, we -- take your time. Sanctions are on. But think of it. We got back our hostages. I didn't pay $1.8 billion. We got back our hostages. Paid nothing. We paid nothing. (APPLAUSE) But it's funny, you know, because other than NATO, because I got them to pay billions and billions of dollars more, because we're paying for NATO. We're paying this massive percentage of cost. We're protecting Europe. But I got them to pay billions of dollars more, and the fake news said he wasn't respectful to the leaders of other countries. And they're right, in a way, because I said, listen, folks, I'm sorry, you're going to have to pay up. You got to pay up. You're delinquent. You know, in real estate, we say you're delinquent. And somebody asked me, it's really amazing they never covered this, because if they do, they would have said this is terrible. One of the leaders in front of the other 28 nations, one of the leaders -- who I get along with - - they respect us now, because they couldn't believe -- for years, NATO spending was going like this. By the way, this is spending to protect them against Russia. You know, they keep talking about Russia. We're protecting -- I got them to pay billions of dollars more. OK? But they said, sir, could we ask you one question? It's always nice when a president or a prime minister calls me sir. That means he has a certain respect. He said, if you don't walk away from these meetings with us paying what we're supposed to be paying or much more, will you leave us? I said yes, I will. And they all said... (APPLAUSE) And they all said we'll pay. We'll pay. Now, the mainstream media doesn't want me to say that. They want me to say no, no, sir, we'll never leave you. But then there's no reason for them to pay, right? Why would they pay? Supposing they asked me the same question. Sir -- and we're talking about billions -- and last year, Secretary Stoltenberg, Secretary General, head of NATO, he goes -- he's like my biggest fan. And I like him, too. But he goes around saying, last year -- that was when I just did a -- because, you know, I was only in office for about 14 seconds, so I couldn't -- you know, I didn't want to use too much bravado. You know much they paid extra? Forty- four billion dollars. That was last year. This year, it's much higher, because now I feel comfortable. I asked him in a more firm manner. And they're paying, and they should pay. But they were saying that I didn't treat them well. If I would've done what they said, or if I would have done what these consultants and these people that I watch on television, we used to do this stuff, they all failed. They failed miserably. So we have our own way. It's a great way. But it's really interesting, because when I was dealing with North Korea, and they were saying, "He's too tough, he's too tough." One of my best meetings ever was with Vladimir Putin. And they said, "He was too nice. He was too nice." They wanted me to have a boxing match on this stage. We had a great meeting. We talked about Ukraine. We talked about Syria. We talked about the protection of Israel. We talked about so many great things. But they came back, and they said, "It was terrible." I said, what was terrible? We had a great meeting. And, you know, when I came off stage, they all said that was a great meeting. Thank you, that was a great news -- then I got onto the plane and they said, sir, I don't think they liked it. I said they liked it, they're just fake. They're fake news. We had a great meeting. It was a great meeting. (AUDIENCE BOOS) And, you know, the funny thing? If I was tough, if I were to say you're never going to do this again, there will be no more of this and no more of that, and stood him in the face and then started boxing, you know what would've happened? They would have said, he's too tough, that was a disgrace to our nation. The truth is, with these people, you can't win, but we're winning. I'm president. You're president. We're winning. (APPLAUSE) So everybody knows Jon Tester's game. He says one thing in Montana, but does the exact opposite in Washington. That's what happens. He will come home and tell you about your Second Amendment, then he'll vote for something where you knock the hell out of it. Jon Tester talks like he's from Montana, but he votes like he's Nancy Pelosi. That's what he does. He's a Nancy... (AUDIENCE BOOS) No, look at his -- look at his voting. It's the same voting as Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, and the legendary Maxine. Jon Tester voted no on tax cuts. And he voted for the Obamacare disaster, which we almost repealed and replaced, but we'll get it done. And remember this. Remember this. We got rid of the most unpopular element of Obamacare, right? The individual mandate. (APPLAUSE) We got rid of the individual mandate. That was the most unpopular single - - that is where you have the right to pay a fortune for the privilege of not having to pay a fortune for bad health care. Right? It's incredible. But we got rid of it. We'll get rid of all of it. And, you know, one thing I have to say, also, Obamacare was going up 115 percent, 125 percent, 80 percent, 60 percent, 53 percent, all different places. It was going up massively. You know, we want to repeal and replace it, and if we get enough Republicans, we will, and we'll have a much better health care -- we've already come up with some of them, association care, et cetera. (APPLAUSE) But -- but to do it, and we will do it, we had it, we had it done, we had it done. But remember, Tester voted no. He voted no on Kate's Law. Kate's Law. What could be better than Kate's Law? (AUDIENCE BOOS) He voted no on enhanced vetting for refugees. Let's not vet them. Let's just let them pour right into Montana. And you see what's going on. (AUDIENCE BOOS) And Jon Tester voted in favor of deadly sanctuary cities. Tell me that. (AUDIENCE BOOS) So that's not a person from Montana. I have a lot of friends in Montana. I don't get -- I mean, I don't get it. How did he get elected? How did he get elected? Jon Tester voted for very liberal Obama judges 99 percent of the time. And yet he would make it impossible for an incredible, distinguished admiral, doctor not to get in. Figure that one. And yet super liberal judges, many of whom are mocked and scorned, and Jon Tester voted against our incredible Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch. How do you do that? (AUDIENCE BOOS) How do you do that? First in his class at Harvard. First in his class at Oxford. And he decides, I think I'll vote no. And by the way, Justice Gorsuch is great and he's doing a fantastic job. And Justin Kavanaugh will do the same job. (APPLAUSE) It's embarrassing to watch those people make fools of themselves as they scream and shout at this great gentleman. This election, you aren't just voting for a candidate. You're voting for which party controls Congress, very important thing. Very important thing. I don't even bring it up, because I view it as something that, you know, they like to use the impeach word. Impeach Trump. Maxine Waters, "We will impeach him." But he didn't do anything wrong. It doesn't matter, we will impeach him. We will impeach. But I say, how do you impeach somebody that's doing a great job that hasn't done anything wrong? Our economy is good. How do you do it? How do you do it? How do you do it? We will impeach him. But he's doing a great job. Doesn't matter. Remember that line. He's doing a great job. That doesn't matter, we'll impeach him. It is a hell of a place in Washington. You know, I was thinking, if that happened, every time a Republican or a Democrat opposite got elected president, so let's say a Democrat gets elected someday -- hopefully it's a long time. (AUDIENCE BOOS) But let's say a Democrat gets elected. And let's say we have a Republican House. We will impeach that Democrat, right? And then a Republican. We won by a lot. We won by a hell of a margin. That's a lot of -- that's a lot. That Electoral College, we won by a lot. OK, so we're in there. We've got the best employment numbers in our history. We've got the best economy in our history. You look at the numbers in every category, it's great. We're doing a great job. We're putting on phenomenal judges. And you take that, and you do, then what? You're going to have -- you'll have a country that's going to turn into a third world country. Because if the opposite party becomes president, every time before it even starts, before you've even found out whether or not he or she is going to do a great job, they'll say, "We want to impeach him," and you'll impeach him. It's so ridiculous. But we'll worry about that if it ever happens. But if it does happen, it's your fault, because you didn't go out to vote. OK? You didn't go out to vote. You didn't go out to vote. That's the only way it could happen. I'll be the only president in history -- they'll say what a job he's done. By the way, we're impeaching him. Today's Democrat Party is held hostage by haters, absolute haters, left- wing haters, angry mobs, deep state radicals, and their fake news allies. Those people are the best. They're the best allies. (AUDIENCE BOOS) I mean, you look at the Washington Post or the New York Times, I can never get a good story. I mean, you look at this horrible thing that took place today, it's really -- is it subversion? Is it treason? It's a horrible thing. Even -- you know the good thing about that? Even liberals that hate me say that's terrible what they did. And it is really terrible. You know, when I won the election, the New York Times, all their subscribers were leaving, and when I'm ultimately no longer president, and hopefully about six-and-a-half years from now... (APPLAUSE) ... the New York Times will go out of business. All of them will be out of business. CNN will be out of business. They're almost out of business now, if you look at their ratings (inaudible) out of business. But they'll be out of business. But the New York Times, you remember, it's very famous. Nobody's ever seen it before, maybe never done before. They apologized for their bad coverage of me. They apologized to their subscribers, because after I won, everybody said, what the hell happened? What happened? We're reading this piece of garbage and the guy that they kill every day, he won. So they wrote -- does anybody remember -- there was a very big story -- they wrote an apology to their subscribers to stop the flow of people leaving and giving up their subscription to the New York Times. And it was quite amazing to watch. And, you know, honestly, for two weeks, they really covered me well. And then it began. And then it got worse and worse and worse. And now we've reached an all-time level. The level of hatred is quite creepy (ph), but that's OK. On the way over here, I saw a liberal pundit. He was filled with anger. And he was attacking me and our great administration. We have great people. I'll tell you, the White House is really working good. They had - - my wife put out a tweet today. Did you see that she put -- she used to do this (ph). She put out a tweet. (APPLAUSE) They had me stomping around screaming with anger up in my area of the White House where I live with my wife and son, Barron. They had me screaming, shouting like a lunatic. And I had a television. I said, what are they saying? I had six people in my office. I was in the Oval Office. We're having a talk on trade. Actually, it happened to be trade with Canada. They were telling me what's happening. And they said, sir, you're not up there screaming and ranting and raving. You're here talking. That's how dishonest it's become. But I asked a young, bright staffer of mine, why are they so filled with this much hatred? Why? Our country is thriving. Jobs are booming. Prosperity is strong. And the future has never looked brighter for the USA. And the young aide looked at me and he said, Mr. President, these liberal pundits, the haters, but they're so angry because you've upset their entire way of life. It's true. (APPLAUSE) But I said, but -- but let's get this straight. So the country is really doing well. And he looked at me and he said something that maybe is true. I find it hard to believe. He said, sir, they just don't care. It's really pretty sad, right? You know, when you look at what's happening, with all of it, including our military rebuilding, we're rebuilding, and everything that we're building is being made right here, the best missiles in the world, the best planes in the world, the best ships in the world. (APPLAUSE) It's all being made right here in the United States. The so-called resistance is angry because their horrible ideas have been rejected by the American people, and it's driving them crazy. Crazy. They're the ones, honestly, that have been driven crazy. The latest act of resistance is the op-ed published in the failing New York Times by an anonymous -- really an anonymous, gutless coward. You just look. He was -- nobody knows who the hell he is, or she, although they put he, but probably that's a little disguise. That means it's she. But for the sake of our national security, the New York Times should publish his name at once. I think their reporters should go and investigate who it is. That would actually be a good scoop. (APPLAUSE) That would be a good scoop. Unelected deep state operatives who defy the voters to push their own secret agendas are truly a threat to democracy itself. And I was so heartened when I looked -- I think it's backfired. Seriously. People that don't exactly dig us and they don't exactly like me, they're fighting for us. It's an incredible -- it's actually a beautiful thing. We picked up a lot of support, because at some point this whole thing is going to be exposed. And it's really bad, and it's really dangerous, and it's really sad for the media and the mainstream media. It really is sad. When I told you about the good news coming out of Korea today, they will hardly even report it. If this were President Obama, that would be the biggest story in the history of our country. But it's going to be sooner or later -- it will be exposed. The policies of our political opponents have brought about only failure, destruction, and humiliation to our country. Look at what happened. Look at where we were, and look at where we are. (APPLAUSE) And we have tremendous potential upward -- and other countries, by the way, are not doing well at all. And had I not won, we would have been in negative -- we wouldn't be at 4.2%. We would have been in negative numbers. We were going down. We were low, and we were headed down. We freed up this country with the regulations and the tax cuts. We freed up our country, and it's great to watch. (APPLAUSE) But if you don't elect Matt, I will tell you, they can change it very quickly. They said -- Nancy Pelosi said yesterday she wants to raise your taxes. (AUDIENCE BOOS) I mean, OK, tell me, is raising your taxes like supposed to be a popular thing to do? Because what's going on, they have been driven so far left, I don't know why they don't talk about red waves. I mean, historically, the person that's president, when you have the party having the president, they don't do well in midterms, but nobody's ever had, ever, an economy like we have. Nobody's ever had this economy. So hopefully you're going to remember it. (APPLAUSE) They robbed our middle class while spending trillions of dollars on adventures overseas. And we're pulling way back, but we still -- we're so respected now. You can pull back a little bit, but we're so respected. They're not playing games with us anymore, folks. They're not playing games. I don't -- I don't want to tempt them too much by telling you things that don't happen anymore to us, because there's no reason for me to tell you, but when you see some of the things that happened four years ago and six years ago and eight years ago, you take a look at what happened and you take a look at what happens now, where we took that horrible Iran deal and we terminated it, and you look at what's going on. (APPLAUSE) We're respected again as a nation. We're respected again as a nation. But these people enriched themselves while shipping our jobs to other countries. And they oversaw the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. It's true. This is the greatest treasure. NAFTA was such a bad deal. Some people said, oh, please, would you extend NAFTA? I said we have to renegotiate it. It's such a bad deal. And when I was campaigning, I said we'll either terminate it or renegotiate it. I don't care. But so far, it looks like it could happen where we'll renegotiate it. But these disastrous policies were on the ballot box in 2016, and they lost, and they lost big. That's why we're here. Load-Date: September 7, 2018 End of Document Anonymous Trump Admin Saboteur; New Developments Surrounding Bruce Ohr; Day Two of Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing; President Trump Called on "The New York Times" to Surrender the Alleged White House Official Who May Compromise the Security of the Nation is Their Reporting is Indeed True that There is Someone within the Trump Cabinet Who is Preparing to Get the President Out of Office; Senator Ted Cruz Shows His True Sportsmanship When He Says that He Supports President Trump's Agenda and that He is Optimistic that the President's Nominee for the Supreme Court Will Make It Through the Justice Seat Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 5, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7712 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Ed Henry, Sebastian Gorka Guests: Joe DiGenova, John Dowd, Ted Cruz, Gina Loudon Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Let me have my Marco Rubio moment. (LAUGHTER) TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: What are you doing? HANNITY: All right. Seven, no, we're going to go back and tabulate the whole year, and I'm -- I lose time. You are stealing it. CARLSON: That is so false. HANNITY: And if you say no, it's fake news. Tucker, thank you. Lots breaking tonight. Anonymous saboteurs within the Trump administration trashing the president, a cowardly, gutless act, going after his agenda. We're going to get into all of this. It was published, of course, by the liberal failing "New York Times" from a person claiming to be a senior employee in the executive branch, that could be hundreds of people. When we get through this tonight, we're going to respond to this self-involved, so-called super patriot, whoever he or she may be. We'll also call up the person's purely political motivations. You need to see this for what it is. We have damning new developments tonight surrounding the deep state and the conduit, Bruce Ohr. Hillary pays Bruce Ohr, let's see, Christopher Steele, and it goes right to Mueller's office. Pretty disgusting conduct in the lead up to the 2016 election, it's about to come crumbling down. Looks like Christopher Steele paid by Hillary direct line through Bruce Ohr, right into Robert Mueller's office, you can't make it up. Also tonight, the Democrats can see the writing is on the wall. Barring any unforeseen crisis, Judge Kavanaugh will be confirmed as the next U.S. Supreme Court justice. Another promise made by the president and kept. But for the past two days, the conduct on the left in this country has been downright shameful. A now known coordinated plot to interrupt the hearings, dozens and dozens of times, reports of paid protesters getting funneled into this audience, a combative political line of questioning, all designed to trip up, bork, Judge Kavanaugh around every corner. And we're going to show you the worst of the worst. Plus, we'll expose the left in this country's pretty and petty political posturing. It's pretty ugly. Now, tonight, the media's obsessive, compulsive anti-Trump coverage is once again ramping up. In moments, we're going to take you on a journey tonight through the media as a never ending -- their ever evolving completely ridiculous obsessively compulsive bias against the president. It's like -- well, they are like drug addicts and we have so much more to cover. Tonight's breaking news, jam-packed, opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Once again, the disgusting underbelly of the Washington, D.C., swamp and a sewer and a deep state is being exposed. This is a good thing. Now, as we speak, we have unelected bureaucrats all over our nation's capital. They have been and continue to work actively to undermine your 2016 vote. They all think they know better than you the American people. They think they know better than President Trump. And tonight, one such bureaucrat hiding behind, of course, the veil of anonymity, almost everything is anonymous, bashing this president in a "New York Times" irresponsible op-ed, writing, quote, I work for President Trump but my like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to forward parts of his agenda. And it gets worse from there. We're going to spare you all the sanctimonious details but here's how the president reacted earlier today. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We have somebody on what I call the failing "New York Times" that's talking about -- he's part of the resistance in the Trump administration. This is what we have to deal with, and, you know, the dishonest media because you people deal with it as well as I do. But it's really a disgrace. You tell me about an anonymous source within the administration, probably who is failing and probably here for all that the wrong reasons. Now -- and of "The New York Times" is failing. If I weren't here, I believe "The New York Times" probably wouldn't even exist. So if the failing "New York Times" has an anonymous editorial. Can you believe it? Anonymous. Meaning gutless. A gutless editorial. We're doing a great job. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: This is truth there. "The New York Times," "Washington Post," fake news CNN, conspiracy TV MSNBC, the networks, when Trump leaves office in six years, they are going to decline precipitously. It will be fun to watch. Now, the president continued his response on Twitter. He wrote, quote, does the so-called senior administration official really exist or is it just the failing "New York Times" with another phony source? If the gutless anonymous person does indeed exist the times must for national security purposes turn him, her over to the government at once. Now, tonight, we are asking the question, all right. Who is this person? Where does this person work within the administration's potentially hundreds of so-called senior officials in the executive branch? Does this person have access to top-secret information? Is there a national security risk? Now, of course, if he or she has a problem with the president, his agenda, they should quit immediately. But if they're going to undermine the president, and it deals with intelligence, sources, methods, national security, what if the president was talking about potentially having to go to war against an enemy? Are they going to undermine t that, too? Now, think about how profound and dangerous that could be, in spite of the gutless and cowardly hiding behind what is swamp attacks that we get every day. We said this many times, deep state actors just like today's anonymous author, just one of the five forces constantly never-ending efforts to destroy President Trump. This individual thinks their opinion, as a Washington bureaucrat, matters more than your vote, the American people that voted in 2016. Now, this person thinks they know better than all about us, the smelly Walmart people, the ones that are irredeemable deplorable clinging to our god, our guns, our bibles and our religion. That's what they think of us. On the bright side, the op-ed is a very good sign that the president is keeping his promise and every day he's trying to drain the swamp and the sewer, and you see the swamp reacting this way. In the end, hear me out. This is great for the country because things need to change. And without a doubt, the good news is the president is keeping that promise. Yes, he's draining the swamp, he's breaking China, he's challenging the status quo, he's shuffling the deck. He is stepping out all the toes of all the good old boy systems that have always existed for them, not us. Not we the people. Those that prefer the good old days in Washington and if they're good, old insider deals and their lobbying efforts, they are freaking out because they see that their power is slipping out of their hands and whoever this anonymous super patriot is who wrote the anti-Trump hit piece in "The New York Times," I would argue dangerously published, is nothing more than a swamp-sewer creature who can't stand that there is a new sheriff in town. This means the president is effective. The anonymous source claims the president is not a conservative and that he's attacked conservatism. Excuse me, the president's actions speak loud and clear. Look at the side of your screen. Let's see, record tax cuts. Oh, conservative originalists on the court. A real push for border security. Let's see, we've got the individual mandate gone, burdensome regulations and business is gone. Millions of people, 4 million off of food stamps, 4 million new jobs created, and I could keep rolling throughout the show. Real promises made by the president, more than any president in our lifetime, keeping his word. Let me speak directly to the author of this article, whoever you or he or she may be. You know, while you have to acknowledge in the article that this isn't about you, let's be honest, it's all about you and people like you. And it's about your obsessive-compulsive hatred of one man, the president. You are supposed to have, if you go into that White House every day or any of the surrounding buildings, you are supposed to serve your country and the agenda that the American people voted for. President sticking to his promises and his agenda. And when you say the president has a preference for dictators like Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un -- well, he has imposed the strongest sanctions against Russia. Unlike, oh, Obama -- I will have more flexibility after the election, tell Vladimir. Or North Korea, let's see, hostages are returned, oh, the remains of American soldiers returned, no missiles fired over Japan. Oh, and we are talking about denuclearization of the entire Korean peninsula. So whoever you are, on top of everything else, you are a liar. So reveal yourself. Come on the show, have some guts, be courageous, instead of hiding behind an anonymous column, you know, kind of like the Woodward book. It starts out, I can't, this is all deep background. Nobody is going to reveal themselves, but I tape it. Release the tapes, let's hear them. Let people identify themselves by. Either way, this is where you come of the American people, need to come in on this. This needs to be a wake-up call. You need to understand of the swamp in the sewer of D.C. is desperate. It needs some serious draining. The president can't do it all on his own, and it's not going to happen in 62 days if Nancy Pelosi becomes the speaker of the House. If the Democrats take back control of the House, we know they want to impeach the president. That effort will be in full effect. Just this weekend, if you don't believe me, or Maxine Waters, just listen to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer vowing to do this very thing. And we got it on tape. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When y'all going to impeach Trump? SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: Sooner the better: UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sooner the better? That's not answering the question. SCHUMER: We got to get a few more Republicans (INAUDIBLE). Democrats are on your side. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: OK, Democrats, pay close attention. There's no vision for America. There's no plan to help make the economy stronger. No vision to make us tougher on foreign policy. They are not talking about the forgotten men and women in this country. Remember, 4 million more working, having jobs, manufacturing jobs that Obama's that are never coming back, are back, fewer Americans on food stamps. But to the Democrats, the swamp creatures, this is all a political game. All they care about is power, and power to them is impeaching and getting rid of President Trump and stopping what is a successful track record and agenda. And you got, of course, their best allies, the Main Street media, they are the propaganda wing of all things Democrat. They are acting as the devout extension of the Democratic Party. They want the president impeached. And, of course, tonight's anti-Trump media obsession is one every single day, surrounds "The New York Times" op- ed. Every day, crisis to crisis to crisis. Here's today's crisis. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's an anonymous hit in a stunning new op-ed in "The New York Times." UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now, this op-ed in "The New York Times" is written anonymously. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's an anonymous op-ed. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: An anonymous person wrote this. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The senior official has written an anonymous op-ed. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This anonymous op-ed. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: An unprecedented op-ed from an unnamed current Trump administration official. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: An anonymous op-ed. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who wrote this? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anonymously. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anonymous. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: An anonymous. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anonymity. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anonymous op-ed. (END VIDEO CLIPS) HANNITY: All right. Meanwhile, earlier this week, the abusively biased press, OK, they were on a completely different anti-Trump topic. That day's crisis was Bob Woodward's new book. Filled to the brim with rumors, speculation, hearsay and tons and tons -- as a matter of fact in his own words, hundreds of anonymous sources. Here was a earlier crisis in the week. By the way, what day was today? Wednesday, not that long into the week. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bob Woodward's explosive new book "Fear" undeniably gripping the White House. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They're all talking to Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This book from Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: According to Woodward's reporting. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was really a full-court press to try to push back against Bob Woodward's book. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Bob Woodward book. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Woodward book. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Then we read it in the Bob Woodward book. (END VIDEO CLIPS) HANNITY: All right. What you just saw was two of this week's examples of the media's obsessive, compulsive hatred of the president. It fits their long disturbing pattern. Members of the press every day wake up obsessively echoing each other's talking points. Crisis de jour, crisis to crisis to crisis. You might remember some of these breathless -- well, we will call them classics. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A dizzying 24 hours in Russia investigation. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Russia. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Russia. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Russia. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Russian. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Russians. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Russia. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Russia, Russia, Russia. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Russia. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Russia. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Russia. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Russia. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Russian government. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Donald Trump has turned the Oval Office into a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) hole. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) holers built this country 110 years ago. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) comments. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) countries. (EXPLETIVES DELETED) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) house. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think these countries are (EXPLETIVE DELETED) holes? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: every hour that passes, we get more from Michael Wolfe. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I read this book and we're going to talk about it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This book "Fire and Fury". UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Michael Wolff. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Author Michael Wolff. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Michael Wolff. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Michael Wolff, his new book. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Michael Wolff. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Stormy saga takes a dramatic turn. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He said, she said between the president and Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa Manigault Newman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa Manigault Newman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa Manigault Newman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The likelihood of impeachment, I'm not saying it's high, necessarily, but it certainly went up. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is in itself an impeachable offense? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Considering something as serious as impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeach. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeach. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: They are all sheep. You know, they are like drug addicts, I mean it. Every day they need to wake up. Hating Trump about something and they are also sheep. They all echo each other, it's an echo chamber. I got to be honest, it's a sick obsession. Where do they ever talk about the success of the president? Gregg Jarrett has had the number one selling "New York Times" book in the country, so has Judge Jeanine Pirro, number one in the country, we've exposed more corruption on this show, the biggest abuse of power scandal, when they ever talk about that? Yes, we are number one in cable. Thanks to all of you, we don't ever take that for granted. We'll have a lot more on the media, and brand-new by the way, anti-Trump op-ed in "The New York Times". First, we have to cover a damning new story surrounding Bruce Ohr. Pay close attention. House Freedom Caucus chair Mark Meadows formally requesting the DOJ, the inspector general investigate Bruce Ohr's seedy ties to Christopher Steele, Andrew Weissmann. That's right, right into Robert Mueller's office and other FBI investigators. Big news tonight, Catherine Herridge, we now know and Steele and his phony dossier that not even he believes was fed it to Robert Mueller's pit bull, Andrew Weissmann, and, of course, the conduit Bruce Ohr. We know that Bruce Ohr, once the fourth ranking official, highest ranking official in the DOJ, maintained contact with Steele even after the FBI fired him for lying and leaking. And we know that Bruce Ohr's wife Nellie, oh, yes, she worked at Fusion GPS. They are the ones that got money from Hillary and the DNC, funneled through a law firm, and that Ohr literally, formerly failed to disclose any of this. And, meanwhile, according to a breaking report from Judicial Watch tonight, it appears that corrupt, fired FBI agent, Trump hater Peter Strzok actually authored the first draft of the FBI's letter to Congress about the Clinton emails found on Anthony Weiner's laptop which proves his critical role. And yes, Hillary's exoneration without investigation. We'll have more on that also in a moment. We do have some good news into the investigation of FISA abuse. New report, Sara Carter, President Trump may declassify 20-plus pages of FISA documents that people have been begging to be released. These documents should shine a very important light on how the dossier was used to lie and commit fraud on a FISA court, which we have been breaking. And by the way, who knew what, when? Hi, Rod. How are you? And remember, Clinton paid Fusion GPS with money, funneled through the law firm. Then they hired a foreign national and he put together the Russian dossier, Russian lies that he didn't even believe and literally just hates Trump. Or the ongoing contact, feeding Trump-hating Steele's Clinton paid for Russian lies right into Robert Mueller's office, right into the arms of his pit bull, Andrew Weissmann. It's beyond sick, it's beyond corrupt. We'll have more on that in a minute, and we'll also be getting to day two of the Kavanaugh hearing in case you missed the long hours of testimony. Joining us now, he is himself the author of a number one "New York Times" best-selling book, yes, there it is, "The Russian Hoax." Yes, Gregg Jarrett, congratulations. "The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump. Joe diGenova's with us. Sara Carter, investigative reporter, is with us. Good to see you all. Sara, let's start with the news. It's now literally Bruce Ohr, Christopher Steele creeping right into Bob Mueller's office. The ever so ethical Andrew Weissmann, how interesting we talk so much about him. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Oh, and, you know, Bruce Ohr, all of these revelations came from the emails and notes that Congress was able to obtain because of their oversight authority to find out what was really going on. And all of a sudden, here is Andrew Weissmann once again. Before he joins Mueller's team, he's in communication with Bruce Ohr. He is head of the crime fraud division and he knows everything that's going on, Sean, and he's relaying that information obviously to somebody else. This is why Congress wants an investigation. This is why Congressman Meadows sent a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions demanding that John Huber, the prosecuting attorney and Inspector General Michael Horwitz investigate Bruce Ohr, his connections with his wife, that conflict of interest, his communications with Andrew Weissmann and it appears -- HANNITY: What about the classifying these documents? Which I hear the -- go ahead. (CROSSTALK) CARTER: Yes, this is even bigger. According to a number of sources that I've spoken with, and President Trump himself actually told this in an interview yesterday, he said that they are seriously considering the classifying the 20 pages of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants that have been redacted by the DOJ. I called these at Rosenstein's FISA. Why? Because Rosenstein signed off on the last FISA, and that's critical. These are 20 pages of the Carter Page FISA that they do not want to come out. And why? Because there is information in there that there has been a fraud perpetrated on the court, on the secret court. HANNITY: And the fraud would be the FISA court was it, that's all they had? CARTER: The fraud will be that and much more. HANNITY: Let me go to Joe diGenova and then we'll get to Greg. This now, if that is in fact true, the next question would be, did they ever make an effort to verify or corroborate? I think the answer would be at best limited and no, which means that they purposely committed a fraud on four FISA court judges, that they politicize the Department of Justice and the FBI. Where do we go from there, Joe? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA: Well, see, here's the problem. It's fairly obvious that fraud was committed on the court and all of this evidence was there. There isn't any doubt about it. So, the question is, why isn't Huber conducting a grand jury on this? He was supposed to be looking at this in Uranium One. Well, in Uranium One, he didn't even interview Doug Campbell, who is our client, Victoria's client. The bottom line is, we cannot trust the department under Rosenstein who by the way no longer -- he's got a big problem with FISA. Personally. HANNITY: He signed the last one. DIGENOVA: Yes, but it's worse than that. He is now under investigation and he can't do FISAs anymore. The bottom line is this, Rosenstein -- HANNITY: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Joe, he's under investigation? DIGENOVA: Rosenstein is under investigation for things that involve the FISA warrant. And here's -- here's the key thing. Sessions is out of all of this. He can't do anything. So where are we in the department? We have a mess of such proportions that there is nothing that can be done about it. I do not trust at this point that the inspector general who has no subpoena authority is going to be able to get to the bottom of this. He is, in fact, right now investigating Rod Rosenstein's role in the FISA warrant process. So, Rosenstein can't have anything to do with the FISA process. HANNITY: Joe, I have not confirmed that myself. Sara, have you? CARTER: No, I have not confirmed that. I have heard that. HANNITY: Joe? DIGENOVA: Bottom line is, you know, we have all talk to people and that's what I know and I'm happy to say it. It's a tragedy for where the department is. The department is in very bad shape right now. It is in free fall. Sessions is completely disengaged from this. It is a travesty of immense proportions and here's what we have to do. Congressman Meadows' request is very important, he deserves all kinds of medals for pursuing this. What we need to do is, the members of Congress from both the House and the Senate need to demand that there be a federal grand jury investigation to all of the FISA processes, to everything that was done around it before the election and everything that was done in it after the election which involved lying to the FISA court. This is now so dangerous to the country, that this could be going on. And with that editorial today in "The New York Times," that's subversion. What you are reading in "The New York Times" editorial is subversion that someone think that they can thwart an election. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: The president must declassify these four sets of documents that Congress has been asking for, is entitled to, and the American public these to see. If he does that, this will expose a level of corruption by the government, the FBI and the Department of Justice, in targeting Donald Trump that will stun the American people. The president is being misled by the intelligence community, may be it's the DNI, may be it's the FBI director. But I guarantee you that the information they claim is classified is not truly classified or top-secret. If they order -- (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: -- it should be classified and top-secret. HANNITY: So, you were hearing what I'm hearing and what Sarah is hearing. And now, Joe has taken it to another level. This will destroy -- JARRETT: It will. It will exculpate the president and incriminate the people at the Department of Justice and the FBI who used false intelligence knowingly to target the president of the United States to undo the election results. DIGENOVA: Hear, hear. HANNITY: Wow, thank you to all. DIGENOVA: Hear, hear. HANNITY: Unbelievable night. Stay with us though, we have an exclusive interview. Trump's former attorney John Dowd has a lot to say. That's straight ahead as we continue. HANNITY: Joining us now with reaction to all of today's major stories, former attorney for President Trump, John Dowd, is with us. John, good to see you. Thank you for being with us. JOHN DOWD, FORMER ATTORNEY FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP: Thank you, Sean. HANNITY: Let me first go to the Woodward book. We now have you on record, we have General Kelly, and I think he has four stars, right? Four? DOWD: Yes. HANNITY: General Mattis has four stars? DOWD: Yes. HANNITY: Pretty impressive. DOWD: It's very impressive. All coming out in the case of you, what you said is you want to be clear what is written in this book about the so- called reenactment or mock interview at the special counsel's office. You never refer to the president as a liar, did not say that he was likely to end up in an orange jumpsuit. That it was an honor and a distinct privilege to serve President Trump. What do you -- what did that mean to you, something that you say was totally fabricated in that book? DOWD: Well, that's what it is and that's what it appears from testimony of other people. HANNITY: Yes. And I assume that bothers you? DOWD: Well, it does. It's very disturbing. HANNITY: Yes. Let me -- DOWD: But it seems to be common these days, Sean. HANNITY: You were on "Fox & Friends," and I saw the interview. You said come with all due respect, you lost all respect for bob Mueller, he did not keep his word, he should have declined this case back in November of last year. And he's the one that asked for the witnesses, he is the one that asked for the documents. Everybody told the truth, he told us he didn't need any more documents and here we are a year later. Thoughts? DOWD: Well, I meant it. I mean, he -- it was his suggestion that instead of -- that we ought to engage and work together and we said fine. You ask for the -- you get the document list and ask for your witnesses. And Ty Cobb and Jay and I provided them. And he said he wouldn't let any grass grow. We -- in every meeting and communication we had come up we stressed how important it was and how his inquiry was a great burden on the president, and interfered with the president's ability to lead this country, particularly in foreign affairs. He said he took that very seriously. And on and on, he gave me his word. That he would do it. We got to late last year and he had completed the 37 witnesses. I asked him, did you have any problem with those witnesses? They were all well represented and well prepared and he said, no. Did anyone lie to you? No. Documents. We gave you 1.4 million but more importantly we gave you the most intimate notes of the communications and deliberations by the president. No president in history has ever done anything like that. Are we missing anything, did we -- are there any missing documents? No. Are you satisfied with everything you've got? Yes. I said, well what's the president's exposure? Well, the president's exposure is, he's a witness/subject. So he's not a target, correct? That means he had no exposure. At that point we said why don't you just decline? He said well, we'd like to get back to you on that but we think we need to talk to the president. And I raised the issue which we had briefed thoroughly. Jay's people did a magnificent job on the briefing on all of those issues. HANNITY: Let me ask you this. DOWD: And we said, you got to get -- what do you not know that we have not given you? That only the president knows? And he could never answer that question, Sean. That's when, I saw a stall going on, and I just lost complete faith in him because we had shaken hands. He was the one that said John will engage. We all wants, we said, we are not going to raise conflicts, we are not going to raise the legality of the order, we are not going to fool with all this nonsense, let's get the job done. This president wants the job done. And by the way, the president gets the credit, he's the one that said, give it to him. HANNITY: Well, John, let me ask you this. He gave 1.4 million documents. Don McGahn, the White House counsel, I was shocked to hear he gave 30 hours of testimony here. You said he made these promises but in retrospect looking at the people that Mueller hired, all these Democratic Clinton and Obama donors, Jeannie Rhee represented the Clinton Foundation, Andrew Weissmann who has an atrocious track record, do you now regret believing him? DOWD: I regret relying on him because he didn't keep his word. And I believed he would keep his word. But more importantly, the way we did it completely protected the president. We have not waived executive privilege. We have not had four years of litigation. We have not had motions to quash grand jury subpoenas. We've not had anybody go in the grand jury, Sean. HANNITY: Yes. DOWD: There is no case there and that's what Bob Mueller ought to face up and do. HANNITY: Yes. DOWD: So, yes. It's a very sad thing to see and then, you see the other cases, you see the Flynn case and at the other case and it's just -- it's more about this sorry abusive practice in the prosecutive ranks. HANNITY: Well, powerful commentary. John Dowd, thank you for being with us. We appreciate it. When we come back, Ed Henry full report on day two Kavanaugh hearings. Also Senator Ted Cruz is with us. Busy night. Stay with us. HANNITY: So today we mark the second day of Judge Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court nomination and confirmation hearing. Joining us now with the latest from Washington, D.C., the swamp, the sewer that it is, chief correspondent Ed Henry. How is it in the smelly sewer tonight? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: It's a little humid here tonight, Sean. I can tell you, though, things are little bit better for Brett Kavanaugh, the president edging closer to a major victory tonight as the judge has largely been sailing through his second day of confirmation hearings to be the second justice the president will get on the high court. The proceedings were repeatedly interrupted again by protesters, apparently paid to disrupt. People waiting online to sit in on the hearings are saying they have seen others get paid cash to wait on line and then cause trouble, but largely that has been just noise. It's done nothing to stop Kavanaugh. So now Senate Democratic Chuck Schumer is under fire. Thirteen liberal groups today signed a letter castigating him for not getting more Democrats to publicly oppose Kavanaugh. The president today lashed out all of that wishing Kavanaugh well, saying he's doing a great job. And saying the Democrats' approach can be summed up in one word, resist. And the president also slammed the New York Times for taking this rare step of publishing an anonymous op-ed from someone claiming to be a senior Trump administration official writing, he works from the inside to undermine the president by blocking what he believes to be erratic decisions. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If the failing New York Times has an anonymous editorial, can you believe it? Anonymous, meaning gutless. A gutless editorial. We are doing a great job, the poll numbers are through the roof, our poll numbers are great. And guess what, nobody is going to come close to beating me in 2020 because of what we've done. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: The president went on to charge this is treason. He's on Twitter saying the Times should turn this government official over to the government. The fact is the president and his aides are furious not just about this basic leak but also that Bob Woodward book and they are fighting back tonight, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Ed Henry in Washington. Thank you. Here with more reaction to today's hearing, Texas Senator Ted Cruz. Senator, good to see you. What we've learned is, this was all planned, all orchestrated. They had a big call Labor Day and first they talked about walking out and they said, we'll do this. I don't think it hurts in any way for the American people to see the left for who they are. SEN. TED CRUZ (R), TEXAS: Sean, I think that's exactly right. I think yesterday and today were both really good days. They were good days for the country, they were good days for Brett Kavanaugh. In two days of hearings on the judiciary committee the Democrats have not laid a single gold glove on Brett Kavanaugh. There's been a lot of screaming, there's been a lot protesting, there's been a lot of anger, and it's really the reflection of the incredible rage and fury we are seeing on the far left and you are right, by all appearances these protests are closely coordinated with the Democratic senators. Indeed yesterday, Senator John Kennedy asked about this conference call between Democratic senators and the protest to disrupt the hearings. And Dick Durbin, the Democrat from Illinois he jumped in and said, yes, we had a conference call and he didn't dispute that it was a coordinated effort. You know, yesterday, 70 people were arrested. But at the end of the day, the rage and the anger they are having, they have been able to give even a single argument that is going to derail this nomination. No Democrat is disputed that Brett Kavanaugh is qualified to serve on the Supreme Court and they are just really expressing the rage of the far left to Donald Trump. They are mad that Trump won in 2016 and Hillary Clinton lost and I think come October we're going to see Judge Kavanaugh become Justice Kavanaugh and that's a great victory for everyone of us who cares about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and our fundamental liberties. HANNITY: You know, I'm watching I'm reading the Washington Post tonight as a result of this anonymous, frankly gutless, disloyal New York Times piece but they are actually talking about the sleeper cells have awoken, of the resistance. And I'm thinking, there is something extraordinarily dangerous if unelected swamp creatures think that they have the authority to undermine the president from within. What if the president is talking about national security? CRUZ: Yes. HANNITY: What if he's talking about maybe going to war? What if he's talking about intelligence sources, methods? While the media is celebrating tonight I'm thinking there is great danger that exists. CRUZ: Well, look, at one level this is nothing new, with every Republican administration there are Democrats that are burrowed within the administration that have fought against good and positive policy for the country. At another levels it has been much, much worse under the Trump administration. We've seen the deep state, we've seen Democrats coming out of the Obama administration deeply politicized who are fighting the president on every front. You know, in many ways it's remarkable the victories we've seen. We've seen an historic tax cut, the biggest tax cut in a generation. We've seen regulatory reform, job killing regulations pull back. We've seen the Obamacare individual mandate repealed and as you know I led the fight to make that happen in the Senate. Nobody thought we would get it done and we got it done. And we've seen on judges an enormous victory, not only Neil Gorsuch but we are getting ready to have Brett Kavanaugh and we got principled constitutionalists up and down the federal bench. There are people throughout the administration burrowed in that are fighting against all of that but the American people are seeing the results of these victories. We are seeing at an incredible job and economic growth. HANNITY: It's interesting because you had a tough primary with the president and really you have emerged as one of the strongest allies in advancing every part of what I would argue is his conservative agenda and the president says it and I think he's doing a big arena, it may be the biggest in Texas, for you. CRUZ: Yes. HANNITY: Tell us about how that relationship has evolved and how -- I know for a fact how much he's relying on you in the Senate. CRUZ: Yes. Well, the president and I have worked hand-in-hand since the day he was elected. We obviously had a vigorous primary in 2016 and it was hard fought but the primary is over. As you know the week after the general election in 2016, I got on a plane and flew to New York City and I spent four and a half hours with the president and his senior team. I said Mr. President, this is an historic opportunity. It is rare to have control of the White House and both Houses of Congress, we can't blow it. And I think the four big domestic priorities were tax cuts, regulatory reform, Obamacare and judges. And I told him that day I said I want to do everything humanly possible to lead the fight in the Senate to deliver on our promises, and I have got to say the level we are doing it is enormous. And let me just finally say to your viewers, go to Ted Cruz.org. Ted Cruz.org, Ted Cruz.org. We got a big fight in the Senate and we are being outraised two to one, we need your help. HANNITY: Well, Senator, I know you've been a strong conservative and a strict constitutionalists all throughout your career. In spite of what the media is praying for, I know the people of Texas appreciate what you are doing in there. Thank you so much for being with us. CRUZ: Thank you, Sean. Take care. HANNITY: All right. We got to take a break. When we come back, Dr. Gorka, and Gina Loudon, new book is ahead as we continues, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. So just moments ago the Washington Post put out a report. Look at the title. "The sleeper cells have awoken. Trump and aides shaken by resistance, op-ed. The sleeper cells in our government." All right. Joining us with reaction to this breaking news, author of the bestseller, "Why We Fight: Recovering America's Will to Win" Fox News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka, also author of a brand- new book just out today, you can get your copy. "Mad Politics: Keeping Your Sanity in a World Gone Crazy," which it is. Dr. Gina Loudon is with us, also a Donald Trump for president 2020 media advisory board member, full disclosure. You know, I'm thinking about this. We aired in my opening monologue, crisis, crisis, crisis, crisis. We had to this week. Woodward and now we got this crazy anonymous gutless, cowardly New York -- whoever it is that they posted. GINA LOUDON, MEMBER, TRUMP 2020 CAMPAIGN MEDIA ADVISORY BOARD: Yes. HANNITY: There is a madness to this and your background and your book discusses this derangement. What do we call it? LOUDON: We got Trump derangement syndrome, I mean, Sean, that's what most people have called it to this point but my book actually uses science and real data and a true psychological theory to explain why it is quite possible that this president is the most sound minded person to ever occupy the White House. HANNITY: You are just literally -- liberal heads are going to explode on what you said. LOUDON: Working right now. And that's the fun part of the madness, just watching them go crazy over the fact that that he's really pretty unfazed by them. And I believe that. And I know. HANNITY: And that's what drives them nuts. LOUDON: And that's what drives them crazy. HANNITY: Mike McCurry wrote a review of that at the best thing you could do for Trump is ignore him. Here's what I want to know. I say they are like drug addicts in the media, they wake up every day and they are like addicts. And if they don't get their fix, their fixation, their hate for the day they break out into a sweat and they go into convulsions eventually. They have to have their drug hating Trump is a drug to them. LOUDON: Yes. And we have to watch it, you know, spewed across our television or written into click bait headlines every single day. And that's why, you know, books like mine that just tell the truth and take an honest approach using science, using -- you look at Woodward's book, for example, Sean, Woodward doesn't know the president. I don't know how many graduate courses he's taken inside college. HANNITY: But you do know -- you do know the president. LOUDON: Yes, I do. And I know his family, and I know the people around him. I've seen him relaxing in what I would like to call his natural habitat of Mar-a-Lago, I've seen him the White House and you know him and how focused he is, how much he's enjoying his job and how unaffected he is by that. HANNITY: That's the thing that really stands out. And Dr. Gorka, you he worked in the White House. Gina is right, he's not affected by this. He engages and he fights. Maybe some people don't like his style. OK, I can live with that. But when he's fighting for America and we are paying $0.70 of every dollar for NATO when he lowers that burden and when he tells our allies that they are not going to abuse us with horrible trade deals and he's negotiating with little rocket man and he is winning and no more rockets are going over Japan, that's a good fight that the American people and manufacturing jobs are coming back, we are winning. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: What the left wing snowflakes will never understand, Sean, is that he loves this. He loves the fight. He's a brawler and he always wins. Two examples. For months, he's been talking about fake news and the conspiracy to constantly attack him and the media, the mainstream media denies it, denies it and it denies it. Then what happens? Ten days ago, 300 newspapers have been coordinated conspiracy to attack him and they do overtly. For a year and a half we've been talking about the deep state, the deep state, the deep state. And CNN and everybody else said it's bogus, it doesn't exist. What happens today, Sean? We have the op-ed in the New York Times, we have the article in the Washington Post, where they say yes. We are the deep state and we are proud of it and I would like all of your viewers to look up the word sedition in their dictionary. Go to the Merriam Webster and look it up - sedition. It is the overt or covert subversion of a constitutional, lawful authority and that's what these people are doing. They must be rooted out and they must be fired. HANNITY: they really do want to destroy him. There's no doubt this is what they want to do. LOUDON: Well, they are desperate because he's taken away their very cushy lifestyles, their power and their money. Or at least he's threatening to buy, you know, cleaning house which is exactly why the American people elected him, Sean. And I think the American people are realizing that more and more and that's why his popularity has increased so much with minority voters, for example, because they are seeing the results of a president who is focused, who is interested in making-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They never talk about that. Dr. Gorka, they never tell the good story. GORKA: No, of course, they can't because they still think that Hillary should be the president. They didn't win the election. Look at what they're doing in the Kavanaugh hearings, they will use every underhanded way to subvert this president but they will never win because he's never going to give up on America, Sean. LOUDON: No way. HANNITY: Congrats on the success of your book, Dr. Gorka. (CROSSTALK) LOUDON: It has a really good story by Sean Hannity. HANNITY: By the way, there you go. I know. LOUDON: Good work. HANNITY: Congrats. And we are proud of you, good luck. And the book is out today. LOUDON: Yes. HANNITY: Amazon.com all of over bookstores. When we come back, John Kerry praising the Iran deal. We'll play that next. HANNITY: Failed 2004 presidential candidate former horrible secretary of state, I voted for the billions before I voted against them appeared on The View this morning as -- praise the disastrous Iran deal he created. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN KELLY, WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF: The Iran nuclear agreement and I say this straightforwardly is the most strongest, most intrusive, most accountable nuclear agreement that we have anywhere on the planet. (APPLAUSE) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So this administration is wrong. KERRY: I think -- I think the administration has made a terrible mistake. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He's like the dumbest man to ever be secretary of state. Giving mullahs that hate us and chant death to America, 150 billion in cash. You're an idiot. That's all the time we have left. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Laura, too much news I don't want to talk tonight. Load-Date: September 6, 2018 End of Document "New York Times" Publishes Anonymous Op-Ed from Trump Administration Official; Anonymous Op-Ed in "The New York Times" Claiming a Resistance Movement in the White House, Claiming the President as Unhinged and Making Impulsive Decisions; The 25th Amendment Gives the Press Something to Talk About and to Obsess With; Second Day of Judge Kavanaugh's Confirmation Hearing and the Protesters are Still Disrupting and the 2020 Aspirants Still Grilling; Facebook and Twitter Grilled by Lawmakers on Issue of Being Biased to Conservatives; Teenager Addicted to Video Games Profiled; Nike Release Ad Featuring Colin Kaepernick; Steve Bannon Disinvited from "New Yorker" Event Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 5, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8444 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Monica Crowley, Raymond Arroyo Guests: Kellyanne Conway, Lindsey Graham, Kevin McCarthy, Jon Summers, Dan Bongino, Jason Nichols, Mike Huckabee Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: It's all the time we have left. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Laura, too much news. I don't want to talk tonight. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Hannity. I'm not going to steal your time, you're not going to steal mine. I hear you were like stealing Tucker's time or something. HANNITY: Steal? Steal? INGRAHAM: Yes, you take other people's time like mine. HANNITY: You see, I told mine, I say go and look what you do, you start yapping. INGRAHAM: I have to tease you. People are looking forward to that every night. You had a great show as always, Hannity. HANNITY: Have a great show. INGRAHAM: All right, talk to you soon. Welcome to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE, I'm Laura Ingraham. It is a very busy Wednesday night in the nation's capital. Treason, that's what the president's response was to an anonymous op-ed written by a senior administration official who claims there is a resistance movement inside the White House. Counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway will be here in moments to react. But first, journalism, R.I.P., that's the focus of tonight's angle. This is what it's come to. The once revered in "New York Times," the paper of record has now become the paper of rumor. As part of its unrelenting vendetta against President Trump, "The Times" today published a column by someone whom they do not identify. The senior Trump staffer under the cloak of anonymity spends a wildly unflattering tale of a president supposedly unhinged from reality making impulsive decisions that supposedly blindside and frustrate top officials and perpetual damage control. Of course, almost on cue, the press went wild. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In a stunning new op-ed in "The New York Times," an unnamed top Trump administration official excoriates the president and reveals the resistance locked within the Trump team trying to protect the country from the commander-in-chief. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is an extraordinary piece in "The New York Times" that really backs up Bob Woodward's book. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The column in "The New York Times" is extraordinary. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've never seen anything like this in modern presidential history. BRAIN STELTER, CNN HOST: This is incredibly unusual, almost unprecedented. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: OK, I'm sorry, I just watched them and I howled (ph). It's like the roadrunner and the coyote all over again. The gist of the piece, by the way is that you, the people, are lucky that Trump is checked by a noble band of staffers, the writer included of course. They refer to themselves as part of the resistance. The column further alleges that the root of the problem is the president's amorality. He is not moored to any discernible first principles. Well, America first is either too difficult a concept for the columnist to understand or he just disagrees with altogether. The president's agenda was clearly laid out in the campaign and pursued aggressively in his first 20 months in office. Lower taxes, less regulation, stronger border enforcement, less military interventionism and fairer trade deals. Oh, and let's not forget his pledge to appoint judges who are faithful to their Article III duties under the constitution. Brett Kavanaugh comes to mind. If Mr. or Ms. Anonymous loathes the Trump agenda so much, well he or she has no business being in the White House. This is not a loyal public servant. This is a disgruntled employee part of the failed GOP establishment that lost power and now want it back by any means necessary. Anonymous is a mole and a fraud. You know, this has the feel of the flimflam array of the Steele dossier, doesn't it? Constructed in advance by Trump's vicious political opponents. And as with the dossier, the American people have no way of judging the veracity of its outlandish and defamatory claims. So we are supposed to just take the word of Trump's adversaries, no questions asked. How convenient. The column is rife with all these dramatic flourishes intended to titillate and feed the media beast, like this line, "the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic." How about his actions? Policies that have improved the lives of millions of Americans, including African-Americans, Latino-Americans, women, small business owners, et cetera, et cetera. Is all that detrimental to the republic? Anonymous claims he wants the president to be successful and does admit some of these accomplishments, but he insists that these successes have come despite, not because of, the president's leadership style which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective. OK, sure, you know, Trump can be impatient and loses his cool, you know, and he can be frustrated as all of us are with the pace of Washington. And of course also with the media. Big whoop. And if I had to guess, and I'm just guessing here, I would say that somewhere along the line Mr. No-name probably had his little feelings hurt by the president. Two words. Man up. If you think so highly of yourself and really stand by your claims, step forward and identify yourself. The kicker in this piece is when anonymous claims that the cabinet officials, so distraught by the president even toyed with the idea of invoking the 25th amendment. This blared across all of cable news. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It lays out the path for removal of the president in cases of "inability" and that's the term that has never been defined or tested. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The idea that the 25th amendment whatever be used is really hard to contemplate that we are at that point. NICOLE WALLACE, MSNBC HOST: Why won't Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell today convene a hearing on the 25th amendment? (Inaudible) political appointees from every agency and ask who talked about invoking the 25th amendment and what did you see? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Thank you, William O'Douglas. Well, make no mistake, this is part of a persistent drumbeat. It started in the wake of the election, the deep state with its faceless nameless sources launched their own internal campaign against Trump. Then, the beat was taken up by everyone from Michael Wolfe to even the esteemed Bob Woodward. The president should be judged by his policies and the results that he delivers for the American people, not by the embittered tales of a would-be whistle-blower hiding behind the skirts of the great lady. And that's the angle. Joining me now for reaction, White House counselor to the president, excuse me, my friend of too many years, Kellyanne Conway. All right, Kellyanne, this is wild. I mean, I have never seen this and I've been in this town for 30 years. You escaped to New York for a while but I've been in this town a long time. An anonymous staffer strikes of some relationship with "The New York Times" and now they are convinced to pen this op-ed. What are your thoughts? KELLYANNE CONWAY, COUNSELOR TO THE PRESIDENT: I'm not sure it matters. There are op-eds like that in "The New York Times" every day. It's just a different byline or I guess a non-byline here. I just have to correct the record. It's not clear to us in any way that it somebody in the White House. And they are saying senior administration official, that could be many people. There are I think thousands of political appointees, hundreds of folks who would qualify under that title alone. But to your point, presidents aren't judged by the noise or even the silence that is occurring at any one moment or any one week, but the usual critics and naysayers. They are judged by the metrics. And when I hear people on cable news, even today in your montage, I confess, I hadn't seen any of it before now. They say words like historic, unprecedented and stunning. That's exactly the way we describe the economy. It's exactly the way we describe the way he's chopped on all the uber burdensome (inaudible) of an unnecessary regulation. This is a historically and unprecedented economic boom time and the Democrats would take that away. And he knows that because you saw the president today respond the way many of us who have the privilege of working in the White House see him respond all the time, not fuming, not infuriated, not isolated. He took it right to what was already a planned event with the sheriffs, who are lined up there to thank this president for being pro-law enforcement, to making sure they have the resources and respect they deserve, and he took it out of his pocket and he read his statement and he pushed back on this op-ed. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Any of these things that are in this op-ed ring true at all in the slightest? CONWAY: What rings true to me, is that people are trying to have it both ways. They want to serve in the government and they are pretending that they are somehow protecting the country from Donald Trump. You see that all throughout the Woodward book -- INGRAHAM: But is this a fault of staffing. We have a very small presidential personnel office compared to Obama, like half the staffers last time I checked. (CROSSTALK) CONWAY: It really depends who it is though. It really depends who it is. It depends who it is. INGRAHAM: But we've always been concerned from the beginning that there were people in this administration who did not buy into the Trump agenda. Look down upon it, we could thwart the agenda whether it's the wall, and they were kind of laughing at the agenda. And I was worried about it. A lot of like minded people who were with Trump from the very beginning who were very worried -- I'm still worried about it. CONWAY: I hear you. INGRAHAM: We got an op-ed in "The New York Times." CONWAY: Yes, indeed. And it really depends who it is, but I also think that's not particularly relevant, meaning like, who it is? But what I want to say is -- INGRAHAM: It could be someone in the West Wing. CONWAY: It just -- it could be. INGRAHAM: And that's a problem. CONWAY: Here's what I want to say about all of that. That would be a problem. And here's what I want to say about all that. The president said, I mean, today I thought really rang true. He said "The New York Times" had apologized to its readers because they got the election story wrong. He's got a good point, which is it's still not clear that many who cover him everyday and criticize (inaudible), understand how he got here and what he's done since he got here and what it all means to people. And that's incredibly important because look at the histrionics on Capitol Hill yesterday, look at that difference between people trying to protest and disrupt. INGRAHAM: Well, we're getting into that -- CONWAY: A hearing -- no, a hearing for an (inaudible) qualified individual who today basically schooled some of the senators who is on the constitution. INGRAHAM: That was embarrassing. CONWAY: And the point I'm making to you is who put him there? That is a product of Donald Trump -- INGRAHAM: That's an angle? That's an agenda. CONAWAY: -- decision-making processes. And so -- and speaking of Speakers Ryan and Leader McConnell, they were at the White House today and you know what came of it? You know what came of these meetings? That they are going to -- the house is going to vote on making permanent the individual tax cuts. So the people are saying, oh, they should invoke this amendment -- they are actually continuing with the president's agenda. They know it's working. INGRAHAM: But this drumbeat, and it's with Woodward who has won, you know, every journalistic awards, well- respected. By the way, did you see this like you're mentioned in this Woodward deal? Like this is the goofiest -- I don't know if you guys -- CONWAY: Yes, I'm thrilled. INGRAHAM: This is one of the goofiest, goofiest things I have ever seen. This is a transcript of a call that says nothing. Were the president is actually, I think really cool with Woodward saying, well, I'm not going to (inaudible) going to be a lousy book. I'm not really the -- he's like Kellyanne and like there's a part where -- and he talks about Kellyanne -- it's likes so idiotic, like who cares. I got to play for you something that John Kerry, former Secretary of State, Democrat obviously, Obama, said tonight on CNN. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN KERRY, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: This is a genuine constitutional crisis. This is a moment where it's a crisis of conscience for people in the United States Senate on the other side of the aisle where they have been willing to be more protective of their chairmanships, of their party, of their president than they have of the constitution and the institutions themselves. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Constitutional crisis, but you see this building, from whether it's goofy Omarosa or Woodward to this, Michael Wolfe, it goes on and on. CONWAY: Look, there are rumors that John Kerry wants to run and lose again for president, that's his right. It's a free country. He can do that. He's over the age of 35, go for it. Joe Biden wants to do the same thing. You saw a lot of the 2020 aspirants yesterday trying to embarrass Brett Kavanaugh, but they really embarrassed themselves and the people who were there protesting on their behalf. And the one thing I don't see in the Woodward book which I think is vey fascinating is Russia collusion. Oh, Kellyanne, why is that relevant? He didn't say he was out. The media spent more time on that story than any -- (CROSSTALK) CONWAY: But is it in there? In other words, if you are a journalist who took down Richard Nixon, if you are deeply respected in many corners in Washington, D.C., wouldn't somebody who had evidence of that come to you? Wouldn't it leak out when somebody say -- INGRAHAM: -- there's no Russia collusion. This is why they're going -- (CROSSTALK) CONWAY: But that's important. That's actually important because they are going to say why did she talk about that? We're talking about -- because they pivot. When they have nothing to say they move to the next -- INGRAHAM: You did an interview with Woodward, yes? CONWAY: I did, early on when he came to the White House and very early on when we got there. INGRAHAM: And what did you -- CONWAY: And then a year and a half later or so I went to have lunch with him to find out about the book and what else and so -- but I am of course aboveboard about that. INGRAHAM: Right. (CROSSTALK) CONWAY: I actually told the president directly above board. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: I don't like people who go to their car and write memos to the file like Comey. I don't like people who write anonymous op-eds because it's a loserville. It's people who are afraid to put their names. If you're a whistleblower, you step forward and you actually use your name. CONWAY: But that's why so much of the book is not new because it's the fourth consecutive book that I can see where certain people are trying to feed their own emotions and egos about how brilliant they were on the campaign -- (CROSSTALK) CONWAY: And it's just that -- so that's a little tired, but what I wanted to tell you, too, is I think that call is important because Woodward said that he tried through six or at seven different people to get an interview with the president and so I said would you please give the president all the names because the only one he knows is mine and I don't think that's been revealed yet because of course there are sources in the book -- Look, many of the accounts (inaudible) so was the first person account of some former colleague and I think that's very disappointing. It's very disappointing that some people went on the record and they have -- General Jones in Obama's White House, he left after the Woodward book came out about -- called "Obama's Wars" because he was the NSA. He was the National Security -- INGRAHAM: --(inaudible) from the first week of the administration -- we're out of time, but first week of the administration, there started to be leaks. Before -- actually two weeks before the inauguration leak, leak, leak -- CONWAY: Well the leaks aren't difficult -- INGRAHAM: From the beginning of the administration there were leakers. CONWAY: -- leakers fall into two big categories. People who say they never talk to the media, hate the media, oh, I'm so afraid to go on "The Ingraham Angle," Kellyanne, how do you do it. I can never talk. They talk to media all day long. The other category is people who never get bad press so, obviously that one be you or me. But people never get bad press, the leakers. INGRAHAM: Kellyanne, thank you so much for coming in. I thought it was just a fascinating conversation with Bob Woodward. They gave him a page of this ridiculous -- CONWAY: You and I are not anonymous. INGRAHAM: Yes, exactly All right, there were fireworks a today at Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court confirmation hearing with protesters still spouting off while Democrats simply attempted to make a name for themselves. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Inaudible) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am prepared to suggest to the committee and ask the committee humbly please withhold further hearings until you disclosed everything. Why won't you do that? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Inaudible) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What we have heard is the noise of democracy. This is what happens in a free country when people can stand up and speak and not be jailed, imprisoned, tortured or killed because of it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There is no place in democracy for all of you who support this, for all of you who support this, it is un-American. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is unprecedented for a Supreme Court nominee to be named by a president who is an unindicted coconspirator. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, my gosh. Joining me now for reaction one of the senators who had a chance to questions Judge Kavanaughis today, Lindsey Graham, Republican from South Carolina. I think the news cycle took over the confirmation for the most part today. But the tactics continued, the interruptions continued. I was on the radio this morning hosting my show and it was this one after the other. Were the gallery was finally cleared? You had to clear the gallery. I would have cleared it yesterday. SEN. LINDSAY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Talking about books, somebody should write a book on how not to handle opposition to a person who is being confirmed for the Supreme Court. The shouting says all you need to know. If you got something to say you normally don't need to shout. Personality and processes is what we are talking about here tonight regarding President Trump. We are not talking about the results he has achieved for the American people. We are not talking about Kavanaugh because he's one of the most qualified people of this generation. You are a lawyer, this guy is brilliant. At the end of the day the vote won't matter in 2020. The article won't matter in 2020, but Kavanaugh will because people will look and see what happens if you get a conservative president. You get a well-qualified limited judicial activist judge. INGRAHAM: More than eight of the federal benches now have been appointed by Donald Trump. Eat your hearts out. GRAHAM: Yes, and Mitch McConnell has done a good job with this. INGRAHAM: Yes, he's been phenomenal. GRAHAM: We really had Mitch. INGRAHAM: So, this -- Brett is going to get confirmed. He's going to be on the court for the first -- GRAHAM: Fifty-four to 56 or 57. INGRAHAM: So he's going to get confirmed. This is all an exercise in futility and I can't wait to see him on the bench. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: So let's talk though about what happened with "The New York Times." I saw you on another network earlier. The allegations in this column -- I don't even want to call it a column, it's a self-serving narrative. So easy to write a positive piece about yourself and paint yourself in the best possible light, that's the easy thing to do. What do you think of the overall point that, oh, Donald Trump is so impulsive, everyone is in their checking what he's doing. Thank god there are all these noble people inside. GRAHAM: So, this person says that there was an effort to invoke the 25th amendment. That's B.S. I know everybody in this administration. INGRAHAM: A whisper. He said whisper. GRAHAM: Can Trump be a handful? Yes. Is that why he won? Yes. INGRAHAM: I'm a handful. Everyone's a handful. GRAHAM: Yes, Laura, that's why you're on TV and you have your own show. So, the bottom line is this person says Trump is not serving the republic well. Where I live in South Carolina, people are extremely pleased. He doesn't adhere to conservative principles. Everybody I know in South Carolina likes the judges, likes the military, like the tax cut, likes the deregulation. They like what he's doing. So this person's view of the president he is serving or she is serving is out of sync with the people who elected him. INGRAHAM: The president in a tweet tonight said that this could be a national security issue, the person should be named, and that was kind of dismissed out of hand but that's actually an interesting question. Is it not? GRAHAM: Well, you know, remember back in, you know, the Watergate stuff, you know, the Pentagon papers. This is mostly opinion. Mr. President if you are watching here tonight, if I were you I would ignore the article, I will ignore the book and I would tell the American people what I've done and what I'm going to do. You got an incredible story for less than two years of being president and I think the best is yet to come, just stay on track. He will not be affected by this book or this article. What you will be affected is by the choices you make and when you pick a Kavanaugh or a Gorsuch, it's going to help you. When you rebuild the military as broken, you're going to get credit for that. When you take a fight to the enemies, unlike Obama, you make us safer. INGRAHAM: So, just stop tweeting. How long (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: I told him that for two years. He's watching. He's watching. GRAHAM: Listen, hey, tweet all you want. Well, tweet all you want to but on occasion, talk about you've done. What you have done blows my mind. OK, we've been in this thing less than two years. We got two of the greatest picks of the generation -- (CROSSTALK) GRAHAM: We have an economy nobody dreamed of. We got a military -- INGRAHAM: It's Obama's economy, that's what the left says. It's a tweet -- thank you Obama. This is the refrain (ph), but no 25th amendment whispers - - GRAHAM: It's all B.S., complete B.S. I would know that. INGRAHAM: You would, well, given your history, given your understanding, given your position. GRAHAM: That's all B.S. INGRAHAM: Senator Graham, thank you so much for coming on tonight. GRAHGAM: Thank you. INGRAHAM: And big news out of Capitol Hill today, the heads of tech companies allegedly discriminating against conservatives, well they face the music. Majority leader Kevin McCarthy here, next. INGRAHAM: Facebook's Sheryl Sandberg and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey were on Capitol Hill today were lawmakers grilled them about allegations of bias against conservatives. Here is Dorsey trying to explain twitter's practices. (BEIG VIDEO CLIP) JACK DORSEY, CEO, TWITTER: We don't consider political viewpoints, perspectives or party affiliation in any of our policies or enforcement decisions. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The allegation that we make, the Republicans, is that you are discriminatory against us, against the Republicans. DORSEY: We agree that the result was not impartial and that is why we corrected and we fixed it. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you do agree that there were more Republicans than Democrats? DORSEY: I didn't say that, but I do -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, you can't have it both ways, sir. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Didn't Jack seem really bored with the whole hearing. He's like, OK, I'll be here. Joining me now for reaction, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy. You're the reason he showed up into town, but there's no problem here. Look, the same thing. It's just an algorithm, I mean, there is no problem. KEVIN MCCARTHY, HOUSE MAJORY LEADER: They say there's no problem when we pointed out. You know what happened a couple of days before the hearing, then they admit that there was some problems. Then if you just watch -- INGRAHAM: They said no Republican -- no bias. MCCARTHY: No, no. They did agree that the algorithm created shadow banning. It just so happens it was just conservative. INGRAHAM: Explain shadow banning for our audience. MCCARTHY: What happens with shadow banning, you put something up and nobody sees it. You have all these followers, nobody sees it and you don't know it. INGRAHAM: It's kind of like watching CNN, I mean, it's up there but nobody sees it. MCCARTHY: Or MSNBC. There is more letters than viewers. But the one thing you had find it, the reason these conservatives like Devin Nunes got shadow banned, it wasn't something they did, it was who follow them. It wasn't anything but because of who followed, the algorithm pick this. And remember what Jack said during this time, lots of times he said, well I want to create a standard of fairness. But who determines the fairness? They have this twitter trust and safety council made up of 48 groups. There's only one of those groups that leans partly towards the middle, the rest are liberal. INGRAHAM: It's all (inaudible). So, they are setting the standards. MCCARTHY: Exactly. And this algorithm, I pointed out to you. I follow you on twitter, you talked about conservatives in Sweden because of -- INGRAHAM: Oh, the election is coming up -- MCARTHY: Yes. INGRAHAM: It's the sweet and Democrat Party which is anti-migrant invasion is going to win. MCCARTHY: The algorithm said that was sensitive, because I have the sensitive mark. Why would an algorithm pick something about immigration? INGRAHAM: All right, we're going to talk about this deal with the anonymous column. Lots of allegations, very self- serving. The anonymous guy looks like he's just awesome superman and the rest of us need to be saved. MCCARTHY: This man is a coward. If it's a man or woman or is it really someone? But the idea that this person has a taxpayers job -- INGRAHAM: Somewhere in the government, could be anywhere. MCCARTHY: -- in the government, supposed to be serving the president who the taxpayers elected but he thinks he is such an elitist that they know better than the voters, that they are protecting the voters in some way? I agree with the president, I think it is a real problem, that they should come forward and say who this person is. INGRAHAM: I asked Lindsey Graham about this and he kind of brushed it aside. The president said this is a national security concern. He said in the op-ed -- and I think it's a he -- but he said in the op-ed that he is working and others are working to thwart the president's agenda and he calls Trump anti-democratic? That's anti- democratic. MCCARTHY: That goes against the constitution. INGRAHAM: Right. MCCARTHY: -- where you're about to serve. That's why this person is a coward. If this person -- INGRAHAM: But could be a traitorous. Kind of -- it's maybe a little stretch, but it is -- MCCARTHY: It is traitorous that you are serving in administration. You're saying you're at a senior level and all you are doing is undermining the person that the American people elected to be president. I think (inaudible) this president has been able to achieve, but this person sits there and does this. INGRAHAM: Could it be -- maybe it's not a political appointee, maybe it's a civil servant. It could be just one of the thousands of civil servants in senior position. When I worked in -- MCCARTHYT: Yes, but this person tries to write like they are in a really place of power and the things that they (inaudible) INGRAHAM: Who believes that? I mean, I don't believe any of this. Any rumblings of a 25th amendment invocation, have you ever heard anything like that from anyone in positions of power over there? MCCARTHY: No. And I work with that cabinet almost every single day. I was with the president today. This is the thing I love about this man, he could have all these false things said about him, he does not lose track of what needs to get done. He's focused. Let's secure the border. Let's get tax 2.0 done. Let's make sure that we are securing social security. I mean, he is focused and he -- INGRAHAM: But he is impatient because there's a lot of you know what going on in Washington. Its slow roll (ph) in his agenda sometimes and he gets ticked off and I don't blame him. But what I really don't like is when we have staffers close to the president who don't like his agenda, who aren't pushing his agenda and are whispering to "The New York Times" or writing op-eds. That's the problem. I don't care, everyone -- that's the problem. It's been a problem from the beginning. MCCARTHY: And they were never there to help him. They were never there to help him. INGRAHAM: Yes, they were. They were there to undermine him from the beginning and now the GOP establishment still trying to get back power. Love the hearing today and I think -- MCCARTHY: Is this the first. And why wasn't Google -- Google didn't show up. INGRAHAM: They're too busy in China. MCCARTHY: But I got to give credit to Twitter, to Jack and to Facebook for showing up. And Google didn't need to show. INGRAHAM: We will call Sergey's (ph) office see if the current CEO can stop by. Congressman, thank you so much. And let's get reaction to all today's news from Monica Crowley, senior fellow with the London Center for Policy Research and Jon Summers, former aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. All right Monica, let's start with you. We go from the Woodward book basically indicating to, you know, the MSNBC crowd that Donald Trump doesn't have his mental faculties, to this, today, in "The New York Times," your reaction? MONICA CROWLEY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, Sara Carter reported earlier today, Laura, that the president is actually perhaps poised to declassify about that 20 FISA warrant documents. So, it's no wonder now that we are getting this fierce new flurry of anti-Trump attacks because it's all about deflection from their original conspiracy, trying to project this on to the president of the United States. So keep a close eye on that. But Laura, what we see in this "New York Times" column is confirmation of everything that we have been saying for the last two plus years, which is that there is this covert rolling coup against the president that there is this unelected shadowy group some in the administration, some without, the establishment, the media, all targeting Donald Trump because he represents an existential threat to all of them, therefore he must be destroyed. We were laughed at. We were mocked, Laura, for saying this for all this time that there is this soft coup against Donald Trump, and now we actually have a piece of evidence from somebody resisting, leading this case. INGRAHAM: They're just like the left in one way, they still can't believe he won, and that he actually doing the stuff. He hasn't gotten the wall built, but hope some of that happens, but he's done a lot of what he pledged, and more and more and more. But Jon, I want your perspective on this. The left is like, this is like feeding candy to a baby. The left is thrilled, we got Trump now. It's like Wile E. Coyote is going to get the roadrunner. What are your thoughts? JON SUMMERS, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: It's hard to hear over the sound of the black helicopters flying all around us between accusations against tech and then this thing coming out. The one thing I do agree on is there wasn't anything new in this op-ed. As a former reporter myself and someone who served on the Hill, I've never been a fan of single-sourced, anonymous pieces like that. I just don't like them. But that said, there was no real news in this op-ed. What it was, was a confirmation of what we have been hearing about the White House for, as you said, the last two years. And I think that's the part that got to be of concern. That's probably the part that made "The Times" comfortable in printing it from an anonymous source is the fact that it's consistent with what we've been hearing from the White House for more than two years. And you don't have to believe it, but it is worth questioning, is there some truth to this? Is it worth looking into? Clearly, there are problems in this White House. So I don't think anyone on the left is dancing around and happy about it, because what we want is a functional, intelligent, pragmatic president of the United States, and it's clear we don't have that right now. INGRAHAM: We want 4.2 percent GDP, and the last I checked didn't Obama say we had 59 states, and people spoke Austrian. SUMMERS: And Obama exceeded that GDP once in his presidency as well. And 4.2 in one quarter does not make a trend. Hopefully it will, though. INGRAHAM: We'll see. Go ahead. CROWLEY: All of this salacious gossip, people are fascinated by the personality, but it's all a giant distraction from, number one, the actual conspiracy to at target Donald Trump, and a number two, delivering a booming economy. SUMMERS: But it's not just -- no, no, no. It's not just gossip when you're talking about the security of the United States. It's not gossip when you're talking about the security of the United States. Nice try. INGRAHAM: All right, Monica, John, thank you so much. I had Raymond Arroyo on the powerful life lessons of a working actor, believe it or not, and an addictive video game taking our kids, the world, by storm. "Seen and Unseen" next. INGRAHAM: It's time for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we explore some of the big cultural stories of the day. Let's bring in FOX News contributor Raymond Arroyo who has a special announcement, which we'll get to in a moment. Raymond, over the weekend, pictures surfaced of former "Cosby Show" star Geoffrey Owens working at a grocery store. What's going on? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: This broke everywhere. Someone liked pictures of Geoffrey Owens, who was on "The Cosby Show" years ago, he was working at Trader Joe's bagging groceries. There he is. This became a viral story, and it was really people trying to job shame him. He's a working actor. In between jobs he's making ends meet. For 15 months he worked at Trader Joe's. People tried to shame him with this, and he took it like a man. And he had great pride in the job he was doing. He turned to Robin Roberts on "Good Morning America" and had this to say about his job and the support he got unexpectedly, watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GEOFFREY OWENS, ACTOR: There is no job that's better than another job. It may pay better. It might have better benefits. It might look better on a resume and on paper, but actually it's not better. Every job is worthwhile and valuable. And if we have kind of a rethinking about that because of what has happened to me, that would be great. But no one should feel sorry for me. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: The dignity of work. INGRAHAM: I said that at my convention speech. My mother told me that, waiting tables. She said you better wait tables, and if you're cheap I'm going to call you out. She waiting tables until she was 74. ARROYO: No honest job should be demeaned. This is the cruelty of social media. And a happy ending to the story. Tyler Perry, himself somebody who made his own way, pulled himself up by the bootstraps, has offered Geoffrey a job. INGRAHAM: Fantastic. I loved how he put it right back in their faces and said, it's a job, there is dignity in every job. You know what he's not doing? He's not sitting down, woe is me, complaining, the world is so unfair, you're mean to me. He's not doing that. And there is a new -- well, it's not new. It's a video game, parents, you know about it, captivated imaginations and apparently the schedules of a lot of young people and young adults. ARROYO: It's called "Fortnite Battle Royale." INGRAHAM: I'm just learning about this. How long has that been on, like a year-and-a-half? ARROYO: It's gaining prominence, and here is the danger -- 125 million users around the world. It's free on multiple platforms. It's basically "Hunger Games" in a cartoon format. People have to kill each other. The island they're on shrinks, and you have to be the last man standing when it's over. I know kids in colleges playing this, in middle school. INGRAHAM: Looks fun. I'm going to start playing tonight. ARROYO: Here's the problem. Kids are addicted to this now. "60 Minutes" on Australia just did a piece on a little boy, Logan Ford. He's 14 years old. He has not left the house in two years. He has bitten his mother, given her a concussion, and popped her in the face when she tried to take the game console from him. Here he is being interviewed. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: By day, Logan can be found in the same spot playing the same game over and over again. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If it was my choice, I'd totally be playing about 14 hours. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Fortnite" and similar video games have been Logan's sole obsession for the past two years, at the expense of almost everything else. Why did you last read a book? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to play. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: This kind of gaming, this player, this type of play, the World Health Organization describes it as a gamer addiction. It leads to aggressive behavior, bad relationships with those around you including your parents. And you see it there. You heard the bit about the book. They've done some research about the social media replacing books. We'll put this on the screen. In the 1970s, 60 percent of high scores were reading books. Today, 16 percent or less. You know I have devoted a big part of my life to literacy, writing for kids. I have a big announcement. I want kids to read, I love that they are reading my books. I'm thrilled tonight to reveal for the first time the cover of the third installment of my "Will Wilder" series for kids of all ages. It's called "Will Wilder, The Amulet of Power." It premieres this February from Random House. It's available for preorder now at WillWilderBooks.com and all retailers. INGRAHAM: I didn't charge you for the sketch. I really got that -- ARROYO: You did a lovely job. The purple -- INGRAHAM: I tried to make it like the Cowardly Lion in "The Wizard of Oz" but I didn't quite capture that. ARROYO: I'm going to try not to write you in as the villain of this book. INGRAHAM: Oh, thanks a lot. ARROYO: I won't do that. I won't do that. INGRAHAM: By the way, I think there's a problem when you bite your mother. When biting or throwing of objects is involved at your parents, you have a problem. ARROYO: None of my "Will Wilder" readers hit their mothers. INGRAHAM: Do you want to know why my kids don't play video games, because they don't have computers with screens? Because of that. ARROYO: Your imaginations are stunted. Read a book. It's a much better way, and it's a way to bring the family together. INGRAHAM: I have a problem with my phone. ARROYO: I know. INGRAHAM: You know that, I'm on it too much. But guess what, I don't have my phone with me tonight. Raymond, thanks so much. Police groups are hitting back hard against Nike's decision to make Colin Kaepernick the face of its latest Nike campaign. Dan Bongino weighs in next. INGRAHAM: Despite big time backlash, Nike is standing by its decision to make Anthem kneeler Colin Kaepernick the face of its latest marketing campaign, releasing its first commercial online today with plans to put it on TV during the first NFL game of the season tomorrow. The commercials tagline is, "Believe in something, even if it means sacrificing everything." That's not sitting well, though, with National Fraternal Order of Police who announced the commercial and pointed out the 381 police officers who have made the ultimate sacrifice since 2016. Joining me now for reaction are Jason Nichols, a lecturer at the University of Maryland, and former NYPD officer Dan Bongino. Dan, Kaepernick got booted from the NFL because of his play, I think. I don't think it was because of the kneeling. People disagree, but I follow football as much as anybody. He was fine but I don't think he was one of the best of the best. But Nike thinks this is our audience. What's the big deal? DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Because the ad campaign in and of itself, Laura, is ridiculous. Believe in something? What does Colin Kaepernick believe in? Even Kaepernick seems confused about this. Keep in mind, Kaepernick is the same guy who wore a pair of socks depicting police officers, some of the finest among us, as pigs. Kaepernick also defended the Castro regime. You know, the Castro regime, the one that imprisons its political opposition, and when it doesn't present them, it kills them? Yes, that regime. Believe in something, what exactly does he believe in? And by the way, sacrifice everything? What exactly, Laura, has Kaepernick sacrificed? He just got a multimillion dollar contract from Nike and he played a game for a living for millions of dollars. So please, hard pass on the Nike campaign, I don't think so. This was one of the worst business decisions in American history. INGRAHAM: Jason? JASON NICHOLS, PROFESSOR, UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND: I would disagree that it was a bad business decision. We have seen that Nike realizes what they are doing. They do market research, they understand these things. Number one, even though there was a slight drop in their stock, I think it was about three percent, they are up 50 percent. And they also realize that the majority of their growth and revenue is coming from places like Latin America and China. INGRAHAM: Don't you think China would put up with any of this stuff? NICHOLS: I don't think that China is concerned -- INGRAHAM: China is making all the Nike sneakers. They are producing the Nike. I don't think they care about Colin Kaepernick one way or another. NICHOLS: And as far as what he stands for -- he stands for justice and equality and equity for all citizens. That's what he has been standing for from the very beginning, or kneeling for. INGRAHAM: Can I ask you guys a question that's unrelated? Do you think he was really cut from the NFL because of the kneeling? NICHOLS: Absolutely. I don't think there's any question. INGRAHAM: So you think he's one of the top NFL quarterbacks? NICHOLS: No, but I'll tell you this much -- INGRAHAM: I'm setting aside the kneeling. I totally am. I actually -- in football, I don't see the great passer. I don't see the great runner. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Danny. BONGINO: Wasn't he on a team that was one and 11? INGRAHAM: Yes, but that's not a reason. BONGINO: I couldn't tell you if the kneeling factored in or not. I know Colin Kaepernick in his early days, he went to the Super Bowl, was a dynamic runner and passer. I know a lot of those skills passed him by. And to Jason's point, he stands for justice, justice, you mean like the wall in Cuba where they lined people up and shoot them and kill them, that kind of justice? Because you know he's on tape defending the Castro regime, the literacy rate in Cuba, and they're wonderful health care. And then he said something absolutely tragic. He said Cuba spends more money on education than they do on prisons. Jason, you know why that is? They don't need a lot of prisons. They kill a lot of these people and then they throw them in a dungeon. That doesn't require a lot of maintenance. Kaepernick may want to look into that. INGRAHAM: God bless him. I'm sure if you hang out with him he's a nice guy, but the Cuba stuff is not attached to reality. This is the ad. I think we should show the ad, because this is running tomorrow and it is going to still be a big viewership tomorrow night on the NFL. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you are born a refugee, don't let it stop you from playing soccer for the national team at age 16. Don't become the best basketball player on the planet. Be bigger than basketball. Believe in something, even if it means sacrificing everything. So don't ask if your dreams are crazy, ask if they are crazy enough. (END VIDEO CLIP) NICHOLS: I don't see how anyone could be against what the message was in that ad. To me that sounds like a good ad. And the other thing I would say, number one, in terms of football, just to go into a little bit of sports, Nathan Peterman, and no disrespect to Nathan Peterman, but he is the starting quarterback in the NFL. He threw five interceptions in one half. Colin Kaepernick threw four all season along with 16 touchdowns. So I think he is very much capable. Whether he starts or not that should be a decision up to the team. INGRAHAM: Play Canadian football. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Go up there and play Canadian football. Dan whether or not it's good or not for the NFL, it's the message, or it's the messenger. I think for police, they feel like they put their lives on the line, and they are not getting a fair shake here. It feels like people are painting with a broad brush even though there have been tragic things happening to African-Americans in the inner-city, no doubt about it. But it feels like it's antipolice into a lot of the people in law enforcement. Dan, close it out. BONGINO: Well, it is, Laura. He wore socks with cops depicted as pigs. And I think you just addressed the saddest part of this whole thing. There is a very real conversation to be had about the treatment of minority communities in this country. That is a genuine conversation. You don't start the conversation by putting on a pair of socks depicting cops as pigs. Sorry about that, but it's not going to happen. INGRAHAM: I think, again, people are going to be kneeling, and I don't think kneeling is going to save a single life. NICHOLS: But the reason we're having this conversation is because he -- INGRAHAM: Good conversation guys, thanks so much. When we come back, Steve Bannon disinvited from a fancy "New Yorker" event. Why is the media so afraid of Bannon? Mike Huckabee will be here to analyze. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Time now for the latest installment of our "Defending the First" series where we expose the enemies to the First Amendment, free expression, and free thought. The latest profile in courage for a leftwing journalist has got to be going to "New Yorker" editor David Remnick, who invited former Trump strategist Steve Bannon to a "New Yorker" festival of ideas event, but when celebrity participants started to bail in protest, David Remnick canceled the Bannon appearance. Joining me now with reaction about this and the absurd anonymous column in "The New York Times," former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee. Governor Huckabee, first "The New Yorker" disinvites Bannon. What does that tell you? MIKE HUCKABEE, (R) FORMER ARKANSAS GOVERNOR: They are afraid to hear voices that don't agree with the ones that are already in the room. That's the great tragedy. It's not about Steve Bannon. It's about if there is someone who has an opinion or a voice that is different than the echo chamber of the left, their way to deal with it is not to present their arguments in the presence of the arguments to the right and win. Their argument is, just don't even let the other guys in the room. It shows to me they just have very little confidence in their own point of view. INGRAHAM: It has happened on college campuses, it's happened in public life. There are certain things people are afraid to say that five years ago, it was mainstream thought. And if you say them you are vilified, or you're called this-ist or that-ist, and you are driven out of public life or they try to drive you out of public life. You lose a promotion, you won't get a certain job at a certain company, and that's outrageous, governor. That is antidemocratic. They say Trump is antidemocratic, that's antidemocratic. HUCKABEE: It's not only antidemocratic, but it's anti-intellectual. I find of the greatest moments I have is going to a college campus, particularly a liberal college campus, an Ivy League school, and speaking there. And the reason I enjoy it is because I get traction from the attempt by the students to say here is this a dumb southern hick, he's a conservative, he's a Christian, we'll eat him alive. And I just enjoy the heck out of being there and answering their questions with questions and finding out they are not quite as smart as they always think they are. But how do they know that if they don't ever have a point of view that doesn't agree with theirs? INGRAHAM: Speaking of cowards, governor, I want to get to this anonymous column in "The New York Times," conveniently dropping all these little bomblets, it's a lot of rehash of stuff we've heard before. But both what it says about American journalism today and what it could tell us -- again, we don't know where this person resides, or if it's a career appointee or if it's an actual political -- we don't know, which is why you can't publish anonymous pieces. But what does that tell you about vulnerabilities in the White House and of the press? HUCKABEE: It doesn't tell us a lot about the White House because they are accomplishing a lot of things that we elected Donald Trump to get done. So, whatever people can say, you are ultimately look at the record and say, by gosh, this man is achieving what he said, he's keeping his promises. Here's what it says about journalism -- there's very little of it going on. It's one thing to quote an anonymous source. I find that objectionable most of the time. But having an anonymous op-ed from someone who is saying the most outrageous thing, first of all, this guy is a gutless coward, or girl, whoever it is. And secondly, it's just bordering on treasonous to say I take a paycheck for a person that I'm trying to undermine. That shows a complete lack of integrity, a lack of honor. It shows something that I think it's revealed this person to be despicably dishonest. And why a "New York Times" editor would ever want to herald this as some great revelation is frankly beyond me. INGRAHAM: It's because they are part of the resistance. Governor Huckabee, as always, love having you on, thank you so much tonight. And up next, my photos. You want to stay around for this. Don't go away INGRAHAM: It always hits me right here the first day of school. I remember going back to school for the first time. And this is a photo of my sons, third grade and fifth grade at a new school this morning. Mommy dropped them off. Can I stay with you? No. Then I let them go and they're off. And prayers tonight, Raymond to Beth Holtz. ARROYO: Beth Holtz, coach Lou Holtz's wife who is very ill. We met with the coach over the weekend, an incredible victory. It was a great thing. INGRAHAM: And our prayers to Beth and Lou Holtz, thank you and everyone and Notre Dame. We really appreciate it. That's all the time we have tonight. Load-Date: September 6, 2018 End of Document Sixty-Three Days Until Crucial Midterm Elections; Real Dem Agenda: Impeach President Trump; Kavanaugh Hearings Repeatedly Interrupted by Dem Objections and Protesters; Ohr Kept Weissmann "In the Loop" on Dossier; "The New York Times" Reported That The Mueller Team Will Accept Written Response From President Trump's Team About Questions They Wanted To Ask The President; Nike Stocks Plunging After They've Decided To Get Colin Kaepernick For Their 30th Anniversary Of The Just Do It Campaign Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST September 4, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7797 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Andrew McCarthy, Jesse Watters, Jessica Tarlov Guests: Jay Sekulow, Alan Dershowitz Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Do you have a board that tells you which time you have gone over for the year? TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: We just handed you like 11 seconds. I cannot believe that I am doing this. Is it masochism? Why am I doing this? HANNITY: No, it's not. This is like fake math, like fake news. It's just not true. CARLSON: I'm not a math major, I'll agree. HANNITY: All right, Tucker. Great show as always. CARLSON: Thank you, Sean. HANNITY: Welcome to HANNITY. We have more news to get to tonight than it's possible to get in an hour. I'll start with a serious note as we get back from vacation and Labor Day. The future of the country is at stake, nothing that big, 63 days, it's all in your hands, a decision that could not be any more stark. America is at a crossroads right now, we'll explain all of this tonight. Do we continue the path of economic success, peace through strength, the empowerment of the forgotten men and women? Or is your future going to be decided by a bunch of extreme far left Democrats that once socialism and there comes back and raise your taxes and observe the bureaucratic status quo, oh, yes, and impeach your president? The one you voted for. Don't take my word for it, coming up tonight, we have exclusive video of Democratic leader Chuck Schumer saying that the Democrats want to impeach Trump in 2019. Plus, we'll show you how other Senate Democrats -- they absolutely were unhinged today at the Kavanaugh hearing and they turned it into a circus. We'll also bring your breaking new developments, you will not get anywhere, Bruce Ohr, Christopher Steele, and yes, a connection to Robert Mueller and Robert Mueller's pit bull, Andrew Weissmann. In other words, it's like one big, long, incestuous chain of connections. And later, we have a story that will make your blood boil. Infamous social justice warrior Colin Kaepernick is now the brand-new face of a Nike ad campaign. So, sit tight, buckle up. It is time for tonight's breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: It's one of the most important decisions that a sitting president can make, and that is the nomination of a U.S. Supreme Court justice that can shape this country for generations and decades to come. And Senate hearings for Judge Kavanaugh are now underway. He is a strong, constitutional candidate, an originalist, a long, serious intellectual track record as a federal judge. He deserves a deliberate to robust hearing, but sadly, as we predicted on the show, Senate Democrats -- they are making a mockery out of what has been a very important process. In what is a coordinated show, a political grandstanding, Democrats tried and failed to stall the hearing just seconds into the Senate Judiciary Chairman Grassley's opening statement. We've got the videotape and it gets worse. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CHUCK GRASSLEY (R-IA), CHAIRMAN, JUSTICE COMMITTEE: I welcome everyone to this confirmation hearing on the nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh -- SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: Mr. Chairman -- GRASSLEY: -- to serve as associate justice -- HARRIS: Mr. Chairman, I would like to be recognized to ask a question before we proceed. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Regular, Mr. Chairman. HARRIS: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to be recognized to ask a question before we proceed. The committee received just last night less than 15 hours ago -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Chairman, regular order. HARRIS: -- 42,000 documents that we have not had an opportunity to review, or read or analyze. GRASSLEY: You are out of order, I will proceed. HARRIS: We cannot possibly move forward, Mr. Chairman. GRASSLEY: I extend a warm welcome to Mr. Kavanaugh, to his wife Ashley, their two daughters. SEN. AMY KLOBUCHAR (D), MINNESOTA : Mr. Chairman, we would like it, my colleague Senator Harris, Mr. Chairman, we received 42,000 documents that we have not been able to review last night. And we believe that this hearing should be postponed. GRASSLEY: I know it is an exciting day for all of you here and you're rightly proud of the judge -- SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: Mr. Chairman, if we cannot be recognized I moved to adjourn. GRASSLEY: -- the American people -- BLUMENTHAL: Mr. Chairman, I move to adjourn. (CHEERS) BLUMENTHAL: Mr. Chairman, I move to adjourn. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, this is what happened, 44 interruptions from Democrats, and make no mistake, as NBC News reports, this was all a coordinated effort from the Democrats. It has nothing to do a documents requests in an effort to be transparent, hundreds of thousands of Kavanaugh-related documents have all been provided to the Senate for review. Now, more than doubled the amount that was provided during the confirmation of Justice Elena Kagan. In fact, "The National Review" pointed out, more documents have been provided than the last five nominees to the Supreme Court combined. And still, these coordinated attempts to disrupt the hearing were bolstered by the Democrats friends protesting in the audience. It was all staged. Even NBC News recognized that. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BLUMENTHAL: Mr. Chairman, I moved to adjourn the hearing. GRASSLEY: OK. PROTESTER: This is a travesty of justice, and we will not hold back. We should adjourn the hearing. (INAUDIBLE) SEN. ORRIN HATCH (R), UTAH: This a Supreme Court confirmation hearing, my Democratic colleagues, actually - - GRASSLEY: We have said for a long period of time that we were going to proceed on this very day. And I think we ought to give the American people the opportunity to hear whether Judge Kavanaugh should be on the Supreme Court or not. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, we learn from NBC News that this has all been coordinated in a conference call that took place over the Labor Day holiday. Chuckie Schumer led the call. At one point, the atmosphere in the hearing is so chaotic, so absolutely unhinged by the left that Kavanaugh's daughters were rushed out of the room. Of course, these kinds of disruptive tactics is nothing new. Let's see, Sarah Sanders, Secretary Nielsen run out of restaurants, Ivanka Trump harassed on an airplane, Education Secretary Betsy DeVos chased down a street, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi threatened with physical violence just to name a few. One Republican senator even referred to the hearing as being overwhelmed by mob rule. This is what is at stake in 63 days. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JOHN CORNYN (R), TEXAS: I have not been in as many confirmation hearings as some of my colleagues, but this is the first confirmation hearing for a Supreme Court justice that I've seen basically according to mob rule. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All of this over who is a well-qualified judge with an incredible and impeccable record, and remember, judges must be confirmed based on the Ginsburg standard. 1993, Ruth Bader Ginsburg's confirmation making the case that no impartial judge should ever answer how they would rule on any hypothetical case ever. And instead, justices must be confirmed based on their merit, their background, their experience, their education. Sadly, that's not going to stop the left's obstruction. Remember Democrats, remember everything they did to obstruct a guy by the name of Robert Bork nominated by Ronald Reagan. Now, he was never confirmed to the U.S. Supreme Court in large part because of the fearmongering, the outright lying and smearing from then Mr. Character himself, Senator Ted Chappaquiddick Kennedy. Remember the Chappaquiddick case? You might remember this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) FORMER SEN. TED KENNEDY (D), MASSACHUSETTS: Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens doors in midnight raids, and school children could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists will be censored at the whim of government. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Just a total and complete liar, and what the Democrats did to Judge Bork was so egregious it inspired a new term. It's called borking. Years later, borking was in full play during the confirmation hearings of now Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Remember back in 1991, Democrats do the same old routine. They rolled out a former colleague Anita Hill, who made sexual harassment allegations against him. The process was so vicious and so nasty, so awful that Justice Thomas called it a high-tech lynching. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CLARENCE THOMAS, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE: This is a circus. It is a national disgrace. And from my standpoint, as a black American, as far as I'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deigned to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas. And it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Wow. As we speak, the Democrats all-out effort to bork Judge Kavanaugh is in full swing. It's unfolding before your eyes. This time, Democrats can do little more than just interrupt hearings, play to their constituents ahead of midterm elections. And as you can see, the presidency of Donald Trump is literally causing the left wing in this country to become more unhinged every day, all common decency thrown to the wind, kids escorted from the hearing and Democrats desperately trying to get back their power. This was all orchestrated. Now, we have warned you many times obstructing the confirmation of Judge Kavanaugh is only one part of their agenda. Should they get back power in 63 days, they want open borders, eliminate ICE, they want to raise your taxes, they want their crumbs back. They want an end to all the investigations into their friends with the biggest abuse of power in our history, the deep state. They want to impeach the president. They want to keep Obamacare. And don't take my word for it, let's listen to what the most powerful Democrat in the Senate, Chuck Schumer, was caught on tape saying over the weekend. Take a look at this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When y'all going to impeach Trump? SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: Sooner the better: UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sooner the better? That's not answering the question. SCHUMER: We got to get a few more Republicans (INAUDIBLE). Democrats are on your side. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, sooner then we possibly can. Chuck Schumer had a pretty busy Labor Day weekend too. He wasn't calling for Trump's impeachment he wasn't doing that on the streets of New York, well, let's see, he was with Nancy Pelosi. And according to "Politico", oh, they were having a fancy soiree in the beautiful Hamptons of Long Island, spotted with many in the Hollywood and media elite. Let's see, Oprah Winfrey, Georgi Stephanopoulos, Katie Couric, Joyless Behar, and so many others. Not a single, smelly Walmart Trump supporter or an irredeemable deplorable or somebody who clings to their god, gun, bibles and religion. Nobody in sight. How else do you celebrate a holiday for American workers out in the Hamptons with your favorite actors and so- called news hosts? I guess my invitation got lost in the mail. But in all seriousness, it just shows how incestuous members of the mainstream media, Hollywood, the Democrats really are, and let it be a clear warning, Democrats do not have any positive agenda to improve the lives for you, the American people, we smelly Walmart people. In less than two years, President Trump has ushered in a new era of success. Look at the side of your screen. Four million new jobs, four million people off of food stamps. Thousands of new manufacturing jobs, hundreds of thousands, jobs Obama said would never come back. Unemployment claims a 50-year low. But Pelosi, Schumer, every Democrat running for office in November, they want to risk it all because of their overwhelming hatred of the president and their desire for power. This obsessive desire to see Trump fail shared by so many of their friends in news in the mainstream media, clearly acting as a propaganda arm of the Democratic Party. We have shown you for months the media goes from crisis to crisis to crisis, and what is their effort to take down the president a you all elected. That is succeeding. You might remember some of these moments. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there a difference at the president said (EXPLETIVE DELETED) hole (EXPLETIVE DELETED) house? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think these countries are (EXPLETIVE DELETED) holes? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Donald Trump has turned the Oval Office into a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) hole. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) holers built this country 110 years ago. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: With the president's (EXPLETIVE DELETED) pole comments yesterday, a few more. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) countries. (EXPLETIVES DELETED) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) hole country. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The White House briefing expected to begin any moment now. They will be expected to face questions about the Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The stormy saga takes a dramatic turn as the porn star speaks out on her alleged affair with citizen Trump. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels lawyer. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We haven't heard from him about the Stormy Daniels affair. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Given the events of today, the likelihood of impeachment, I'm not saying it's high, necessarily, but it certainly went up. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeach. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeach. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president is clearly guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. He should resign his office or be impeached. (END VIDEO CLIPS) HANNITY: Tonight, we even have more obsessive coverage to bring you, a brand-new book, Bob Woodward filled with, let's see, speculation, rumors, hearsay. Apparently, hundreds of anonymous people, anonymous, painting the Trump presidency in a very negative light. Many are flat out denying the claims made in the book. Let's see, including Defense Secretary Mattis, the Chief of Staff John Kelly, let's see, eight stars between them, John Dowd, the attorney for the president and many others. The mainstream media can't get enough. It's obsession to obsession, to issue, to issue, to issue. But never focus on success at all. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bob Woodward's book, it's called "Fear: Trump in the White House." paints a disturbing picture. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Legendary journalist Bob Woodward's new book about President Trump. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bob Woodward's new book. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a Bob Woodward book. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Woodward book. Bob Woodward. Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Explosive new details about the Trump new White House today uncovered by veteran journalist Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Widely anticipated book, the product of Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Woodward's book. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bob Woodward. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bob Woodward's book. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bob Woodward's book. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: More on that blockbuster new reporting from Bob Woodward -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bob Woodward's new book. (END VIDEO CLIPS) HANNITY: And while the abusively biased, predictable, crisis to crisis to crisis media runs with wall-to-wall coverage of a book filled with salacious rumors, anonymous sources, they are totally ignoring what is one of the biggest scandals in America political history, the biggest abuse of power. Tonight, the plot thickens around Bruce Ohr and his efforts to spread Christopher Steele's Clinton bought and paid for phony, dirty, Russian dossier throughout the entire highest levels of our government and lying to you, the American people. Catherine Herridge not only reporting that the Ohr remained a close relationship with Steele, but he also fed Steele's dossier, let's see, to Andrew Weissmann. Remember, Weissmann is Robert Mueller's top deputy. "The New York Times" called him Robert Mueller's pit bull if you recall. And in a case against Andersen Accounting, remember Weissmann's aggressive prosecution tactics, tens of thousands of your fellow Americans lost their jobs, a conviction overturned 9-0. It's hard to lose 9-0 in a Supreme Court. Weissmann responsible for the imprisonment of four Merrill Lynch executives for a year. Oh, that was overturned, too, by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. He was excoriated by a judge for withholding exculpatory evidence. And you have Bruce Ohr, once the fourth highest ranking official in the DOJ, feeding the dirty Russian dossier to the man that would then go on to be Mueller's pit bull. And remember the exchanges between Steele and Ohr. Oh, I'm afraid. What if we're exposed? I hope the firewalls hold. Oh, and yes, did the special counsel get your messages? So, was Andrew Weissmann colluding? Was he conspiring? Why didn't Robert Mueller tell the American people about the context with Ohr and Christopher Steele, and why do we have to figure it out? Catherine Herridge did. And we also know that and unearthed handwritten note from Ohr after the election, let's see, listed Peter Strzok, and Lisa Page, and other FBI agent. The note reads, no prosecution yet, push the case ahead on M, which is Manafort, go back to Chris, which is Steele. And that's what they believe all of this means, Manafort is M, Christopher Steele is Christopher Steele. At the center of the entire government case against what is what we're unfolding here. Well, of course, taxes and et cetera. Finally tonight, there is one sign the Mueller investigation could be drawing to a right. We'll talk to Jay Sekulow. According to a report from "The New York Times", the special counsel will accept written answers from President Trump to some questions surrounding the Russia probe. We're going to ask President Trump's attorney, Jay Sekulow, about that in a few moments. But, first, joining us now, it is now the number one best-selling book in the country, "The Russian Hoax: The Elicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, and FOX News contributor Sara Carter. Welcome both of you. I want to get to the Mueller issue, let's start with the latest news. So, Christopher Steele and Bruce Ohr are communicating some 70 communications, Sara, between the two of them. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: That's right. HANNITY: We have to fear that Steele that he's going to be exposed. The desire to keep the firewalls up. He exposes that he expects Ohr to deliver messages to Robert Mueller's team -- CARTER: Yes. HANNITY: -- and now we find out that Andrew Weissmann was the one getting the messages. In other words, Steele's lies, Steele's unverified Russian, Hillary Clinton bought and paid for lies being fed to Andrew Weissmann and we never knew about it until now? CARTER: Well, now, it makes sense, Sean, because when we go back to the story, remember April 11th, 2017, he set up, Weissmann set up a meeting with the "A.P." And remember, that was all a day before the "A.P." broke their big story on Manafort. And because of that meeting, the FBI actually reported, reported that problem to the DOJ, and said that Andrew Weissmann set up a meeting with the "A.P." to share information against our wishes and we are afraid that he is going to tear down our case. Now, the "A.P." said they never shared anything with Weissmann and that Weissmann denies sharing anything with the "A.P." But now, it makes sense. He was being fed information by Bruce Ohr the whole time and he was moving Steele's information, possibly to Mueller. I mean, we don't know that yet, it's alleged. But remember it was only a month after that meeting with the "A.P." that he was appointed to the special counsel and became Robert Mueller's right-hand guy. HANNITY: But Ohr is getting messages from Steele about Steele asking Ohr to push his information, never verified, never -- to the special counsel. Let me get Gregg in. Andrew Weissmann. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Andrew Weissmann is like the detective who frames a suspect and appoints himself the investigator to determine whether the suspect he framed committed crimes. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What about Robert Mueller? How can you ever trust the Mueller investigation? JARRETT: Well, you can't. HANNITY: That appoints a guy, loses 9-0 in the Supreme Court, excoriated by the judge, holding exculpatory evidence, putting innocent people in jail, that is overturned, 9-0, fifth circuit court of appeals, how does he get a job with Robert Mueller's office? JARRETT: He shouldn't have had the job. Mueller should have asked a lot of questions and didn't of Peter Strzok and Andrew Weissmann. You've got Strzok who tainted the evidence. You've got Weissmann who tainted the evidence. You've got a team of partisans appointed by Mueller who refused to recuse himself, not to mention his boss who has a disqualifying conflict of interest. This is the most corrupt and tainted investigation of my lifetime and I'm 63 years old, and it goes beyond my lifetime. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Sara has a much better career ahead of herself. Let me ask this, Mueller said, "New York Times" breaking report tonight, that he might accept written answers. Let me go to Gregg on the legal side of it first. JARRETT: Well, this is a victory for President Trump's legal team, but mostly, it's a vindication of the rule of law. There was never any legal basis for questioning the president about exercising his constitutional authority. There's no legal justification for asking them questions about a non-crime called collusion. So I think that Mueller finally concluded the obvious, that if I slap him with a subpoena, the president is going to file a motion to quash, and I, Robert Mueller, will lose in the federal courts. The brilliance of being able to answer questions that are written as one, you can object to them and declined to answer certain ones that are inappropriate. HANNITY: It seems that if they want to present questions, they can. JARRETT: Well, you can carefully craft your answers to avoid the perjury trap and key here. HANNITY: Would you recommend he does it? That the president and the legal team answer this? JARRETT: I would answer the first question about so-called collusion as, I don't know anything about collaborating - - HANNITY: I do not think that they should do anything for the Mueller team, nothing for this team. JARRETT: Well, I would answer and say, I don't know anything about it, period. And if they ask follow-up questions, same answer as before. HANNITY: Sara, seriously, knowing all we know and the fact that nobody gets in trouble, the lies that were presented, the fraud on the FISA court, Hillary's fixed investigation, so many unanswered questions, they started this whole investigation, set up from the beginning. The highest levels of power being corrupt, I don't think that they should do a thing. CARTER: I don't think that they should do a thing either, Sean. And I think this is going to be an explosive week. There is a lot of information I'm hearing from Capitol Hill, information that will come out this week. Remember, we are still looking for the 20 pages that the House Intelligence Committee has asked on the FISA warrant, that should be coming out. At least that's what I'm hearing. And there is a lot of information, exculpatory information that's going to come out. I think the president should hold tight. HANNITY: How soon? CARTER: I think it's going to be within days. HANNITY: All right. When Sara says that, it usually means it is coming. Good to see you both. We have jam-packed lineup tonight. When we come back, the president's attorney Jay Sekulow. Also tonight, Alan Dershowitz, Andy McCarthy, Jesse, Jessica. We have a chockfull night. Colin Kaepernick even, straight ahead, at least talking about. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: The antidote to our problems in this country when it comes to judges and politics is not to deny you a place on the Supreme Court. This is exactly who you need to be. This is exactly the time that you need to be there. And I'm telling President Trump, you do some things that drive me crazy. You do some great things. You have never done anything better in my view than to pick Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, because you had an opportunity to put well-qualified conservatives on the court, men steeped in the rule of law who apply analysis, not politics to the decision-making and you knocked it out of the park. And to my friends on the other side, you can't lose the election and pick judges. If you want to pick judges, you better win. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh, Obama used to tell us that. Lindsey Graham hammering Senate Democrats for their outrageous behavior at today's hearing. Also breaking news tonight, "The New York Times" reporting that Robert Mueller will accept written answers from the president. Does this mean the investigation is going to come to an end, ever, finally, nearly 500 days? Here to weigh in on all of this is the president's attorney, also the chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice, Jay Sekulow who has done legal work for me in the past and we actually had broke bread together, and talked once about sports. Good to see you. How are you? JAY SEKULOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LAWYER: Hey, Sean, good. HANNITY: You've argued before the Supreme Court personally what, 12 times? SEKULOW: Yes, yes. HANNITY: The ACLJ 20 times? SEKULOW: Yes. HANNITY: And you won most of your cases, right? SEKULOW: We've been very fortunate. I'm very blessed in that regard. You don't win them all, but we've won an overwhelming majority, and if you include the others you mention, we've had a number of cases that have been summarily reversed. We've had a good track record. But, look, I've also won these cases, some of them we've won unanimously, a number of them unanimously. It depends on the nature of the case, but I got to tell you something, the president has made two great picks, Neil Gorsuch, tremendous judge, now justice. Brett Kavanaugh who I have known for a long time is brilliant. He has been a great judge. If you want to know anything about Brett Kavanaugh, read his 312 opinions. That may be a good way to start. So, you saw theatrics today in the Senate, but at the end of the day, guess what happens? Judge Kavanaugh becomes Justice Kavanaugh as confirmed for the Supreme Court of the United States and the president gave a great selection with both of these justices. I mean, reshaping the courts literally for decades with a conservative judicial philosophy. Lindsey Graham said elections in that context have consequences. And here, the selection of Brett Kavanaugh is I think is probably the most qualified -- HANNITY: Yes, really sad. SEKULOW: -- judge out there for this position, yes. HANNITY: The orchestration that went on today, those two young girls that went into a courtroom, that they had to watch their dad go through that -- SEKULOW: Yes. HANNITY: -- process. Nearly said it, I was really careful. All right. Let me -- let me move on. (CROSSTALK) SEKULOW: But Brett Kavanaugh's opening statement, though, Sean, I thought that Brett Kavanaugh's opening statement and what the president tweeted out about what was going on in the Senate kind of summed it up. Are they -- are these senators really going to tingle with Brett Kavanaugh? Because let me tell who wins that one. Brett Kavanaugh. HANNITY: I think it's (Inaudible) it's interesting to watch. SEKULOW: Yes. HANNITY: New York Times headline, "Mueller will accept some written answers for Trump." SEKULOW: Yes. HANNITY: It's been a number of weeks since you and your legal team responded to the special counsel, some were wondering if there's going to be a fight, whether they would subpoena the president, may still happen. Tell us what you can about what this means -- I know that there's only so much you can say. SEKULOW: Yes. And I've to be very, obviously very careful, so let me tell you this. We have an ongoing dialogue with the office and special counsel. Myself, and our colleagues have continued an ongoing dialogue. That dialogue continues. I'm not going to discuss the contents of what has been agreed to or not agreed to. But I will tell you this. I'm not concerned about the president of the United States responding if we decide to accept the proposition of responding to written questions. Responding to questions about the Russia and interference with the election. The president is committed, there is no crime here, there is no underlying crime that the president was concerned in. I'm not concerned about where that goes. Look, I mean, if they ask questions and we think they are appropriate, we would respond. Again, we haven't even responded to the special counsel's-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But the White House counsel-- (CROSSTALK) SEKULOW: -- response letter. HANNITY: The White House has spent 30 hours testifying before, which to me is mind-blowing. But it seems to me that if fact Don McGahn gave them 30 hours, and if the president would have go in and say one contradictory to what McGahn said, that sets him up for a perjury trap. And every lawyer-- (CROSSTALK) SEKULOW: Well, you are jumping -- you're jumping way ahead of the discussion to go to what happens if there was an interview or not an interview. But what you said was very important. This White House has been the most transparent in history when it comes to investigations or inquiries like this. You mention Don McGahn's 30 hours of testimony. There has been 30 other witnesses that the White House put forward to testify, there's been over 1.4 million pages of documents that have gone forward. So the idea that the special counsel has not been given access to information I think they would be readily admit that this has been a transparent investigation in a transparent inquiry. There is all of this media's been going on about what was said or what wasn't said, but let me tell you this. The president of the United States authorized his legal team, both his White House counsel and his private lawyers to engage this in a transparent basis. And that's has been done. This does need to come to an end. I mean, I think everybody in the country wants it to come to an end. I don't give dates and times. It needs to happen sooner rather than later. But look, at the end of the day, as I said, it's a process of negotiation, it's ongoing. I'm not going to disclose the nature of that. But there's been a lot of speculation in the media today. I will tell you this much look at what has happened so far and what the number of documents and the number of witnesses that have gone forward. HANNITY: Do we have to worry about what John Dowd has said publicly on this network? Or say what we reported about Andrew Weissmann and back channel information from Ohr, from Christopher Steele, and text messages and communications that show that in fact, Christopher Steele was trying to funnel information to the special counsel? SEKULOW: Well, look, my former colleague John Dowd denied unequivocally today the reports that came in regarding the excerpts of the book that were released, the purported meeting that he had and I had regarding they call it basically a reenactment of a conversation that never took place. And John said that that was not correct. That it did not happen. It did not happen. With regard to the other issues that you brought up, the irregularities in this inquiry from the outset including the beginning of it which is the dossier issue which starts the whole thing, of course that's an issue. I could give you a whole list. We don't have time to go through that again. HANNITY: Yes. SEKULOW: Now look, all of that is relevant to the nature and the scope of this inquiry and it's just resolution. At the end of the day as I said, I am convinced that we are going to get it there. We are going to end it soon, but I don't give dates, but I will tell you this, I'm not worried about questions on Russia. HANNITY: OK, Jay Sekulow. It will be interesting to see if this becomes, if you will, James Comey two, you know, weeks before an election. Thanks for being with us. When we come back, powerful analysis, Alan Dershowitz, Andy McCarthy, and the latest Colin Kaepernick, now the face of Nike, just do it. Let's remind you about Colin Kaepernick, Jesse and Jessica straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with more reaction, tonight's huge baking news, the author of this book it's incredible, if you haven't read it yet, "The Case Against Impeaching Trump," Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz, Fox News contributor, Andy McCarthy. Mueller will accept some written answers from Trump, Professor Dershowitz. ALAN DERSHOWITZ, PROFESSOR, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL: Well, I think it's an attempt to achieve a compromise. The written answers will be vetted by his lawyers, and President Trump is not going to be allowed to just go off on a tangent and state his opinions on the state of the world. He is going to be answering, yes, no, I don't remember, and lawyer like answers, that seems like a perfectly reasonable resolution, but if they ask him even in writing, what was your motive when he fired Comey? He has every right to say, none of your business, executive privilege, article two. HANNITY: Right. DERSHOWITZ: You have no right to probe my state of mind when I engage in a constitutionally protected act. HANNITY: The idea that we try and criminalize thoughts has always bothered me, whether it me hate crimes, legislation. DERSHOWITZ: Me too. HANNITY: You know, in the case of James Byrd, that was a big issue in 2000, George Bush supported the death penalty for the people that committed that evil atrocity, but people have all they didn't support the hate crimes legislation. It didn't make sense to me. Andy, is it a bad idea or a good compromise for the White House to give written answers? Most lawyers have been saying anything else is a perjury trap, and this some say could even be a perjury trap. ANDREW MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: well, Sean, it could be, but the president has very good lawyers. And what Professor Dershowitz has laid out is as good advice as there could be. The answer to the questions from an inferior executive official about what the chief executive's motivations was in carrying out his constitutional prerogative is article two. If that's the answer that the president gives, then I don't really see the jeopardy for him. HANNITY: So what is the point if Don McGahn gives 30 hours to the special counsel, and I think this is the point that Rudy made that the media was all over, professor, truth is not necessarily the truth, but if there is a contradiction or a different recollection, then the special counsel will be the one that decides what the truth is. And we kind of know that the subpoena that they put together is kind of predisposed to hating Trump, they probably would believe Don McGahn no matter what was said. DERSHOWITZ: There isn't a -- there isn't a single experienced criminal lawyer who wouldn't agree with the thrust of what Giuliani said. They would have put it differently. But they would have said the same thing. That is even if you say something that is absolutely the truth and you pass a lie detector test and you get some sleazy flip witness who has been threatened with his family going to jail unless he composes or sings, nonetheless, you can be charged with lying if they have one witness who contradicts what you said. And that's why when he said the truth isn't the truth, that is essentially what he meant. And every criminal defense lawyer and prosecutor who is honest and experienced will tell you the same thing. That's why people don't go and speak to prosecutors. Ask Martha Stewart what happened when she did. HANNITY: Such a good point. You know, Andy, this is a sad commentary, because my family was law enforcement, my mom was a prison guard, many New York City cops, two guys were deity, they made the FBI. I have FBI friends of mine that say they never talk to the FBI. And I'm like, why not. I want to help them. That would be my natural instinct. If you ever do and you say something that turns out to be wrong, bad recollection, look at General Flynn, look at Papadopoulos. It's like, Professor Dershowitz has always said, we are criminalizing political differences. Sometimes you don't honestly remember something and you can now be charged with a crime of lying to the FBI. So my friends in the FBI tell me never talk to the FBI. That's ridiculous to me that we now live in that circumstance. MCCARTHY: Well, look, Sean, I think that in 99 percent of the cases cooperating with the FBI is a perfectly fine idea, what you have here is a case where not only because you have an impeachment overlay, but just the nature of the investigation, the politics is really overwhelmed the law, and it makes it a very eccentric different kind of case. HANNITY: Let me ask, professor, your answer to that question? DERSHOWITZ: OK. If you want to cooperate with the FBI, do it through your lawyer. Do not speak to them directly. Tell your lawyer what you think. Then your lawyer can honestly relate what you told him to the FBI. That avoids any possibility of perjury-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Don't you think it's sad, professor, though, that we are at that point? It's sad to me. DERSHOWITZ: -- for lying to the FBI. Look, we shouldn't have a statute like 101 that makes it a crime for anybody to lie to the FBI. You should have to swear under oath on a bible before you can be charged with perjury. Because the vast majority of Americans don't know that. Don't know that if you tell a traffic cop in some states, I was speeding because my wife is pregnant, or I was taking kid back from the soccer game and it isn't true, you have committed a crime. The oath is very important. And it should be a prerequisite for perjury. HANNITY: I think that's well said. Andy seems to disagree-- (CROSSTALK) MCCARTHY: So, Sean-- HANNITY: Yes? MCCARTHY: But there's no problem cooperating with the FBI as long as your lawyer of Alan Dershowitz. HANNITY: Listen, my instinct is to help the FBI, 99 percent of them protect and serve us. All right. Good to see you both. MCCARTHY: Thank you. HANNITY: When we come back, a Hannity monologue, Nike makes Colin Kaepernick the new face of the company. Tomi Lahren asks people in California what they think, also reaction with Jesse and Jessica, whose world? We'll find out. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Opening weekend NFL is right around the corner, but Saturday is kind of my football day. Colin Kaepernick is back in the news, now he didn't make the roster of any pro team. He had three bad years before that. Nike is now making him the face of a new ad campaign, that is the subject of tonight's mini monologue. All right. Former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick is not new to controversy. As a player, he frequently used the NFL as a public platform to protest what he called police brutality and what he perceive as America's ongoing oppression against minorities in the country. He famously refused to stand for the national anthem during games, leading others in on the field to do the same. Look at the socks he wore with police officers depicted as pigs. He wore it in practice. Even done a t- shirt featuring Cuban dictator, Fidel Castro during a press conference ahead of a game against the Miami Dolphins. Nike is now using Kaepernick to headline their new ad campaign and the words you see on your screen read, quote, "believe in something even if it means sacrificing everything." I would like to take a moment to remind Nike executives sacrificing everything looks like it's not a multimillionaire social justice warrior whose greatest feat of bravery kneeling on a football field and wearing those socks against our police officers. Instead, those who sacrifice everything can be found on the ground in Afghanistan as we speak. U.S. soldiers fighting and dying to keep this country safe. Fighting for a cause bigger than themselves. They can be found in the bravery and the courage of men and women that protect and serve police, firemen, first responders that run towards danger when we all run away. And they can also be found in graveyards all around the world from Normandy, to the Pacific, from Vietnam to Korea. All across the United States, there are millions of men and women who have really sacrificed everything for strangers they didn't even know. So the world, this country, could be a better safer freer place. There are plenty of heroes in this country that Nike could feature, but Castro, loving America, let's see. Cop hating, ex three year backup quarterback is not one of them. This week and we sent Tomi Lahren out to see what Californians thought about Nike's new ad, take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TOMI LAHREN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Are you familiar with the gentleman by the named Colin Kaepernick? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Colin Kaepernick he is a basketball player, right? LAHREN: Do you know who Colin Kaepernick is? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have no idea who that is. LAHREN: You don't know who Colin Kaepernick is. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't watch television. I probably wouldn't even watch this. LAHREN: Nike just announced they made Colin Kaepernick the new face to their just do it 30th anniversary, do you think they make a good choice? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, because I think he legitimately does protest in a good way. LAHREN: Do you think they made a good choice? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just talk to me in about a month when their stock go down. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I respect what he does. I think that everybody should have the choice whether they want to stand up or not. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I personally don't agree with that type of protest, but if Nike chooses him and they think he has the best one, then so be it. LAHREN: Do you think that it would be smart for businesses to stop with the politics? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To mind, yes, but again, it's like, where do you draw the line? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I said it last season, I say it now, for me, I don't support boycotts, Saturday is my football day. I'm just sick and tired of it. Too many men fought, bled, died fighting under that flag, it should be one thing that unites the whole country. Joining us now, Fox News contributor, Jessica Tarlov, co-host of The Five you get two shows and Watters World, it's his world or hers, we'll find out. I can't get over the cops as pigs socks and the way that he has depicted all police officers. Castro. Castro was a brutal murdering dictator thug, really? This is Nike's let's do it. JESSICA TARLOV, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: There is a lot more to Colin Kaepernick than a few misjudge sartorial decisions. HANNITY: The justice. Misjudged, may be purposely dumped, let's say that. TARLOV: They certainly-- (CROSSTALK) JESSE WATTERS, FOX NEWS HOST: Did his socks fall on his foot? TARLOV: You are hilarious. HANNITY: It just fell on me. TARLOV: Listen, there is a lot more to what Colin Kaepernick has done to drawing attention to racial injustice in this country. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me ask you about that. TARLOV: I think what that is what this is about and why Nike has him. HANNITY: Brave men and women and police and fire departments-- TARLOV: yes. HANNITY: -- that serve and protect us-- TARLOV: And I'm thankful for that. HANNITY: -- do they deserve better than that? TARLOV: Better than what, the socks or better than his protest? Because the socks and the protests are very different things. HANNITY: Really? TARLOV: Yes. WATTERS: So he didn't draw attention to the social justice cause because he draw attention to himself, because that's all anybody is talking about. And the only reason that Nike did this is because most of their sales come from countries outside of America, so they are playing to the anti-American market and that's fine. It's funny how liberals really didn't like Nike when they set up the sweat shops in Asia, now they love Nike because they are in bed with Kaepernick. If Nike really cared about social justice, they should set up factories on the south side. In Ferguson, Baltimore, or something like that. HANNITY: Colin Kaepernick a good quarterback in the last three years? WATTERS: Last year I think he got 1 in 11, and he was going to get hot. And that's why he started kneeling, and the fake news media made him into a martyr. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: That is a horrible thing to say. WATTERS: He is a one trick phony, he couldn't create a defense and he's not that great. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: (Inaudible) running quarterback. WATTERS: Yes, after a year or two. TARLOV: My turn. Nike made a decision about supporting someone who has been into girdle and starting a social justice move. That they ought to make a good bet, but I'm not a football fan, but-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: You like soccer more than football, don't you? TARLOV: What is that, in 2017 Colin Kaepernick was a top 50 bestsellers. Nike has a history -- why are you laughing? HANNITY: Because Jesse is funny that's why I'm laughing. TARLOV: This Jessie is funny too. Nike has a history of doing this, they supported Michael Jordan, for instance, when the air Jordan was banned. (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: And what did Jordan say? Republicans buy sneakers too. TARLOV: What does that have to do with anything here? WATTERS: They have their market. HANNITY: Hold on. Not even close, 100 to zero. To Jesse's world. TARLOV: The next generation which Nike is going after-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Bill Clinton and other controversy, this is outrageous, that's next. Good to see you both. HANNITY: All right. On Friday, funeral was held for the legendary singer Aretha Franklin, and among the musical icons and political figures they are to pay tribute to the queen of soul was former President Bill Clinton. And Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, they were given seats front and center on the stage. Part of the event Clinton and Farrakhan even greeted each other. Following the funeral many have asked, why would Bill Clinton, a former president agreed to share the stage with a racist and anti-Semite like Louis Farrakhan? Why? There's no explanation and no excuse for that. All right. That's all the time we have left this evening. We are not the destroy-Trump media. We're fair, balanced, and different. We'll remain so with your help. Let not your heart be troubled. Ingraham, how was your holiday? Load-Date: September 5, 2018 End of Document Protest Tactics By The Democrats During The First Day Of The Confirmation Hearing Of Judge Brett Kavanaugh Where The Disruptions Were At Most, Choreographed; NBC Host, Chuck Todd, Calls On The Media To Go Against Fox News And Conservatives; Nike Makes Colin Kaepernick Face Of New Advertising Campaign; Rahm Emanuel Announces He Will Not Run for Reelection As Chicago Mayor; Bob Woodward To Release New Book On Trump Administration Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST September 4, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8184 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Tammy Bruce, Chris Hahn, Ed Henry Guests: Gregg Nunziata, Mark Penn, Harmeet Dhillon, Chris Hahn, Candace Owens, Anthony Tall, Dan Proft, La Shawn Ford Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, that is all the time we have left this evening. We are not the destroy Trump media. We are fair, balanced and different. We'll remain so with your help. Let not your heart be troubled. Ingraham, how was your holiday? LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: It was great and I just love coming back to Washington -- HANNITY: I can't hear a word of anything. INGRAHAM: He can't hear anything -- HANNITY: Now I can hear you. I can hear you now but worst words in the English language, yes. INGRAHAM: The thing that I love is that you come back to Washington after a long weekend and you enter the lion's den of what should be a sober process of a judiciary committee hearing and it's just a total, ridiculous theater that I'm going to address with my angle. HANNITY: All orchestrated and look at those kids of justice -- soon to be Justice Kavanaugh. Why do his kids have to be subjected to that planned, orchestrated B.S.? What's wrong? INGRAHAM: Imagine if that happened the shoe was on the other foot and it happened -- oh, they would just -- they would say it's anti -- it's against with the children, it's mean, it's cruel and mean-spirited. Anyway, Sean, you had a great show tonight, great new details on the -- HANNITY: All right, have a great show.0 Good to see you. INGRAHAM: All right, good to see you. Good evening from Washington, I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. I hope you got plenty of rest over the long weekend because you heard with Sean, we have a lot to unpack to you in the next half-hour. Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court confirmation hearing is just one of the many stories we are watching tonight. Now, also the White House hitting back very hard against the latest Bob Woodward book. Ed Henry will be here to break it all down for us. Plus, Nike lost billions of dollars in value over its decision to use anthem kneeler Colin Kaepernick as the face of its latest ad campaign. So was no one else available? I guess not. And with NBC embroiled in a scandal, one of its top anchors is taking shots of course at Fox. We'll set the record straight. But first, the party of the stunts strikes again. Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh had not yet been introduced at his confirmation hearing when Democrats employed a familiar protest tactic. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CHUCK GRASSLEY, CHAIRMAN, SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE: Good morning. I welcome everyone to this confirmation hearing on the nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to serve as associate justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: Mr. Chairman, I direct like to be recognized for questions before we proceed. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: First in the 2020 candidate went Kamala Harris. Oh my goodness. Despite the fact that the Democrats were furnished with more documents about Kavanaugh than the last five Supreme Court nominees combined, and despite the fact that senators like Richard Blumenthal have already gone on record as saying they are opposing Kavanaugh's nomination, well of course, they claim it was all about needing more documents. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: Mr. Chairman, I moved to adjourn. (CROWD CHEERING) Mr. Chairman, we have been denied -- we have been denied real access to the documents we need to advise -- Mr. Chairman regular orders calls which turns this hearing into a charade and mockery of our norms. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Isn't it funny to hear him say, turning it into a mockery? Of course no episode of the Trump resistance would be complete without some of those protesters you heard in the background. And they were going off like timed fireworks in a tedious spectacle. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible). UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Inaudible). UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Chairman, I think we ought to have this loudmouth removed. I mean, we shouldn't have to put up with this kind of stuff. I hope she is not a law student. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: There were 63 interruptions in the first part of the hearing today. It seemed like it was 263 to me watching it. And here's what you need to know. These were not random events, they were part of a coordinated campaign of stunts directed and staged before hand by the Democrats. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. THOM TILLIS (R), NORTH CAROLINA: I'm reviewing a tweet from NBC that said Democrats plotted coordinated protest strategy over the holiday weekend, all agreed to disrupt and protest the hearing. Chuck Schumer led a phone call and committee members are executing now. SEN. DICK DURBIN (D), ILLINOIS: Mr. Chairman, there was a phone conference yesterday and I can tell you at the time of the phone conference, many issues were raised. One of the issues was the fact that over 100,000 documents related to Judge Kavanaugh have been characterized by the chairman of the committee as committee confidential. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It's good of Durbin to confirm what we all knew. This 90-minute bloviation session at the top of the Kavanaugh hearing was just clunky choreography. It was meant to fluster Republicans and more importantly, to mobilize the party's left wing base. In other words, it's all about the midterms. They are not going to defeat Kavanaugh. He's going to get confirmed. They know it, we know it. But the truth is this is all the Democrats have. They are now basically just a party of wacky protests, silly sideshows and groupie stunts. They have no governing agenda or a cogent (ph) argument. They can't run against a thriving economy or record low unemployment or booming consumer confidence. So feigned outrage is all they are left with. One group of leftist women outside the Kavanaugh hearing actually donned "Handmaid's Tale" costumes, as if the judge's confirmation of the high court would turn women into slaves of the state. I looked closely at it, it looked more like a high school send-off of I don't know, "Little House on the Prairie." It was really stupid. Got to get a new costume department. Among the protesters scattered through the hearing room was a familiar face. Leftist activist and professional rabble-rouser, Linda Sarsour. You remember she gave that very understated talk at the women's march right before the inauguration. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LIND SARSOUR, POLITICAL ACTIVIST: I will not respect an administration that won an election on the backs of Muslims and black people, and undocumented people and Mexicans and people with disabilities, and on the backs of women. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: My dogs at home just hid under the couch with that. I'm sorry (inaudible). But not only the cast of character is the same but so is the general approach. The circus of today's hearing might only have involved, I don't know, three or four dozen people or something like that, but it was just as well-organized as the women's marches or any of those spontaneous pro-amnesty march as we saw earlier this year. I call this governance by stunt. We don't have the votes to change policies so we are going to try intimidation. After all, we know that most of the media are just going to laugh it up so let's just let it rip. And this is the same play they used in Chicago back in March 2016 when Trump was scheduled to attend a rally at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Remember that? Democratic Congressman Luis Gutierrez, moveon.org, Black Lives Matter and other leftist groups organize thousands of protesters to swarm the venue. There were scuffles and violence. The security threat was so intense that the Trump campaign decided to cancel the rally. If you can't beat them, intimidate them. Today's Kavanaugh spectacle was revealing. And that it shows the Democrat's enduring rage over the election of 2016. They just cannot get over it. And although Kavanaugh is supremely qualified, extremely well-regarded as a selection for the high court, he must be opposed because of the man who nominated him. This absurd political jacking today by Democratic 2020 hopefuls was as disruptive as it frankly was embarrassing. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CHUCK GRASSLEY, CHAIRMAN, SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE: Good morning. I welcome everyone to this confirmation hearing on the nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to serve as associate justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D), CALIFORNIA: Mr. Chairman, I direct like to be recognized for questions before we proceed. SEN. CORY BOOKER (D), NEW JERSEY: Mr. Chairman, if I could just respond. If we could just respond to that. GRASSLEY: Sire, you can respond, but just a minute. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well that was Cory Booker's voice. You didn't see him there but he was quite chatty today. But for all the chatter that Trump has coarsened (ph) our conversation and Trump has upended protocol, what do you call that? And by the way, that went on and on and on. I was thinking about it today though, you know, as they have done on college campuses and so many other places, walks of life today, the left is destroying civility and sowing chaos. They are doing it throughout society and I think most of -- the rest of America is just working. They are too busy for protest. They have to put food on the table. If this is how the Democrats conduct themselves at what should be a sober hearing for one of the most important post in the land, imagine how they'll govern. Should they gain a majority in November? And that is the angle. Joining me now for reaction are Gregg Nunziata, former chief nomination's counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee, Mark Penn, former adviser to Bill and Hillary Clinton and Harmeet Dhillon, vice president of the Republican National Lawyers Association. Great to see all of you. Mark, directed at your party, what's happening here? MARK PENN, FORMER ADVISER TO THE CLINTONS: Look, I'd say Democrats won the day by losing it because they maybe created a ruckus but I didn't see a single word even in your show from Judge Kavanaugh and neither did America. INGRAHAM: So that's the goal here? PENN: So look, I'd say -- INGRAHAM: Because that's the goal on college campuses, Mark. PENN: Judge Kavanaugh's nomination has got a 50-50 in public opinion. Neil Gorsuch actually had a lot more support. He got through a message, Kavanaugh didn't. The Democrats may have taken some -- INGRAHAM: It's the first day of hearing. He usually doesn't speak at all. But so you think it's fine for when the chairman of the committee is speaking for multiple Democrats, auditioning for 2020, continue to jump in when they know that's not the deal. And if the shoe were on the other foot, the Democrats would be howling about this. PENN: Well, you hit it on the head. These are 2020 Democrats. They are playing to the base, that's what they are doing. It's the Senate, it's political. Remember, Congress has a 13 percent approval in this country for a reason, and its theater. Everybody knows this nomination is going through and these hearings are a show and they just -- INGRAHAM: I think, Gregg, it's also a chance to educate the American public on how important the court is. And I think as you pointed out on my radio show, how this demonstrates that for the left, the court is just another political instrument. GREGG NUNZIATA, FORMER CHIEF REPUBLICAN NOMINATIONS COUNSEL: Yes, that's absolutely right. I mean, clearly they don't have the votes to stop Kavanaugh. They don't have the arguments to do it either. I think what Brett Kavanaugh was speaking about it -- speaking about in his opening statement tonight, is a vision of the court that the American people respect and understand. Judges that apply the law as written (inaudible) now ideological agendas, and that's contrary to what some of these Democrats want. When they weren't obstructing they were talking about a couple of key political issues that they want the court to advance for them. INGRAHAM: Yes. So it's abortion, abortion, abortion, you know, gun restriction, gun restriction. Harmeet, there was a moment when Ben Sasse, who has been resisting Trump for most of the Trump presidency, but he in many ways I think today was the Republican stand out in this committee. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. BEN SASSE (R), NEBRASKA: The reason these hearings don't work is not because of Donald Trump, it's not because of anything in the last 20 months. These confirmation hearings haven't worked for 31 years in America. The hysteria around Supreme Court confirmation hearings is coming from the fact that we have a fundamental misunderstanding of the role of the Supreme Court in American life now. Judge Kavanaugh doesn't hate women and children. Judge Kavanaugh doesn't lust after dirty water and stinky air. Now, looking at his record it seems to me that what he actually dislikes are legislators that are too lazy and too risk-averse to do our actual jobs. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well presented, well done, Harmeet, I know you've been following this minute-by-minute. I knew it was going to be raucous, but I confess, I actually thought this was -- and this is where -- I guess I'm still naive in certain ways. I actually thought this was even below where someone like the theatrical Booker would go, but that's exactly where he went. HARMEET DHILLON, RNC COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: That's right, Laura. I mean, it was a 2016 protesting audience with a 2020 aspirational Senate Democratic leadership there. And it was a worse than the (inaudible) hearing. I mean, in the (inaudible) hearings people said horrible things but at least they did it with decorum. I thought this was outrageous. It really turns off the American voters. And, you know, much as probably you and I both disagree with Ben Sasse on the president quite a bit, I think he was the star. Ted Cruz was also a star today. And they have pointed out calmly what's the role of the court, and you wouldn't have these losers in their "Handmaid's Tale" costumes out there protesting. They should be protesting not the confirmation hearing. They should be protesting the Senate. They should be protesting legislators who don't do their jobs. Instead it's the default now they treat the Supreme Court like a branch of the government that makes the laws and not interprets them. So, you know, as you said, Kavanaugh will have a chance to talk tomorrow. He started his remarks today in a very mature way and this is just, you know, playing out the clock as much as we can. INGRAHAM: Yes, his kids were there. Yes, you know, his two daughters are sitting there and the Democrat's marker always about the children. The children, the children -- you're separating parents from children. OK, fine, there's some validity there. But I have two young girls sitting there and Brett Kavanaugh, who has excelled in law school, well-qualified by the ABA, which used to be the gold standard for the liberals. (Inaudible), ABA, gold standard, that's out window. And it's nasty comment after nasty comment after nasty comment. And I keep thinking of those little girls, is this their introduction to American democracy and Article III and, you know, the legislative branch of oversight? I know that's kind of just anecdotal and maybe I shouldn't focus on that, but as the mother of children, I did focus on that for a moment. PENN: Well, look, where I agree is that what was good politics for the Democrats isn't good policy for everybody because the truth of the matter is now, these hearings take down the court. They politicize the nominations in a way that the court looks lik another political branch. And unless there is a bipartisan agreement on future nomination hearings, we're really tearing down our institutions and I agree that we've got to put policy and good institutions and supporting our country above politics that is not going to happen in this hearing. INGRAHAM: And Gregg, you know what was trending after this hearing today? And Mark was right to much that it wasn't Kavanaugh's introduction to himself. It was the stunt and it was the Handmaid's costume -- it was a tweet like this that made the rounds. I'm sure you saw it. This Amy Siskind, like (inaudible) some influencer on social media, political ranks as one of the top influencers out there. She says, "What fresh hell is this!!!??? -- I love that one, they do that - - Kavanaugh's assistant Zina Bash giving the white power sign right behind him during the hearing? This alone should be disqualify!!!" Grammatically challenged as well. It is Twitter so I guess grammar is oyt the window, but that's where we are. NUNZIATA: Yes, I know. As ugly as things got in that hearing room, it's uglier still on twitter and in various precincts (ph) of the left. I mean, obviously the woman who I had the opportunity to work with a bit in the senate, was sitting with her hand resting in a position -- INGRAHAM: She's a terrific person, too. NUNZIATA: They are scanning the room trying to find a hand that might be in a shape that they can interpret to mean something obnoxious. I mean, it's absurd. INGRAHAM: Harmeet, there's another development tonight which is very interesting, which kind of goes to, you know, again, where the Democrat Party is going. Kavanaugh is going to get confirmed unless something really bizarre happens. He will be the next associate justice on the Supreme Court. He will sit for oral argument in the first week of October and that's going to happen, again, unless some bizarre thing happens. But as we are talking about this, in Massachusetts tonight there was a big primary. In the seventh district of Massachusetts, the incumbent Michael Capuano, who was endorsed by John Lewis and Maxine Waters -- OK, they're not exactly moderate Democrats endorsing him -- was beaten by an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez endorsee whose name was a Ayanna Pressley -- how could I forget the king's last name, spelled differently. Ayanna Pressley, who is far left and (inaudible) was from the Boston City Council like an at-large member, that came out of nowhere. Again, the Democrats are losing control of this party here, I mean, even their gold standards of activists, I mean, liberals like John Lewis and Maxine Waters. They can't push someone through in Massachusetts and Capuano is a liberal's liberal. He is liberal, but not liberal enough. DHILLON: Yes. That was poorly for, you know, Nancy Pelosi in case the Democrats take back the House, just like Joe Crowley, you know, the sky (ph) was considered to be a shoe in, and the party is going far left, so I say, you go girls. Take the party further left and further left because they are further and further out of touch with the American people. Nobody is buying the socialism and nobody wants to see America turn into Venezuela so, you know, its bad news for Democrats. INGRAHAM: It doesn't work. It doesn't work. Where has socialism worked or Democratic -- it's not working. Mark, I got to have you weigh in on that. PENN: Look, I think the party is saying they want a new generation. They realize that their leaders are in the 70s and 80s and I think that's what you are seeing. But I think you underestimate the power of moderate Democrats. If the house is taken over by the Democrats, they will have the swing votes, not the left. And you will be surprised. INGRAHAM: And so they will be out in the cold and just, you know -- PENN: We'll see. (CROSSTALK) PENN: They will have more power than you think because they will have the power to stop the left. INGRAHAM: Gregg, give me a final prediction for what's going to happen tomorrow. NUNZIATA: Right. I think we'll finally going to hear more from Judge Kavanaugh, and again, his record is so exceptional and his approach to the law is respectful of the constitution and the American people. I think the more people hear from him the more they're going to like him, the more inevitable his confirmation is going to become and he's going to get confirmed with all the Republicans and some Democrats. INGRAHAM: Don't you miss being up there though? Come on. You miss -- NUNZIATA: Every now and again. I don't know if today or -- INGRAHAM: Gregg was like thank god I'm not there now. Total three-ring circus. All right everybody, thank you so much. Harmeet, thank you. And the peacock network is embroiled in multiple scandals. Tonight, still one of NBC's top anchors taking shots at conservatives including yours truly and others at this network. The full story, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) CHUCK TODD, NBC NEWS HOST: Intellectualism, that is what's taken over the party. They are sort of anti -- it's almost as, you know, there is almost a disdain with some in Trump world. They are like, yes, OK, so the college- educated crowd is in force. This doesn't look like an attempt to serve systems. This looks like an attempt to only serve the lead propaganda. It feels like we've reached a level of crazy in this White House and it's difficult to take it anymore. And one of my colleagues on this network (inaudible) its effect. I have no doubt that they have a point of view, but they are grounded in facts. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Well, that was NBC's so-called neutral objective, always objective anchor Chuck Todd, taking shots at Trump over what? His supporters also over the past couple of few years? And in a new piece in "The Atlantic" -- he gets around -- Mr. Todd advocates for journalists to fight back against conservative claims of bias. Bring it on, Chuck. So let me get this straight, while NBC is embroiled in multiple scandals including completely blowing it on the Weinstein sexual assault story, Chuck Todd is telling Fox and others how to handle its business? Nice try. Joining me now with reaction, conservative radio talk show host, fox news contributor Tammy Bruce and Chris Hahn, a liberal radio talk show host and former aide to Senator Chuck Schumer. All right, Tammy, take it away. I find this to be rich. I mean, it's nice to have a byline in "The Atlantic." I get that and taking shots at Fox is something of a cottage industry out there, but how much credibility right at this moment does NBC have? TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, not much at all and I think this is their breaking point, but it's also not an accident that this is also just before the midterms of course. But let's look at Chuck Todd. In the Podesta e-mails that were leaked by WikiLeaks, we found that he had been inviting people to a party that Chuck Todd was having at his home for Jennifer Palmieri, a major aid for Hillary Clinton. And this is where, you know, in their private lines, how they all network together. But they are -- he's arguing now that going 24/7 against the president of the United States is not enough. They now want to go 24/7 against Fox News, that's what he's advocating for. In the midst of wondering why no one trusts the legacy media, and it's because they're untrustworthy. You can actually see a Gallup poll tracks the trustworthiness that media enjoys. And when Fox News began in 1996, the trustworthy index went up. It went up for a number of years. And but you can see when major events have occurred, that when the American trust mechanism, the quotient for the media starts to go down on major events, like after September 11 and other dynamics. So, you can just see, you know, they can fight back. Chuck Todd says in this piece he wants to fight back. He can fight back by actually doing his job -- INGRAHAM: Yes, do reporting. BRUCE: -- instead of creating, you know, these campaigns against people and blaming everyone other than himself. INGRAHAM: Yes. It's classic blame shifting and we all know it's kind of easy to blame other people when you've made mistakes, we all do it. But this is now at the point where, Chris Hahn, I think they see that Fox most nights, most of the time is blowing the other networks out in the ratings. Not always but we do pretty well. Instead of having an actual debate on the issues, its Trump's bad, Fox is bad, Fox hosts are bad. Meanwhile, Ronan Farrell releases a statement last night about what NBC had claimed, Chris, about this Weinstein coverage saying, well, it wasn't adequately sourced that's why we didn't go with Ronan's reporting. He says this last night, "Executives there have now produced a memo that contains numerous false and misleading statements or misleading statement, so I'll say briefly: their list of sources is incomplete and omits women who were either identified in the NBC story or offered to be." "The suggestion to take the story to another outlet was first raised by NBC, not me, and I took them up on it only after it became clear that I was being blocked from further reporting. The story was twice cleared and deemed reportable by legal and standards only to be blocked by executives who refused to allow us to seek comment from Harvey Weinstein." So covering up, it looks like for a pal of the network or pal of the executives, and now lecturing Fox? Get out of town, your reaction? CHRIS HAHN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well look, I mean, I think anyone who helps and assists somebody cover up the kind of behavior that Harvey Weinstein participated in, you know, needs to be dealt with. I don't know that that extends to Chuck Todd. He is allowed to have an opinion on other things that is separate from what the executive brass may have done to cover up some bad behavior. It happens all over the place. It happens there. And I will say this though about his article. I read it. I read every word of it. There are some things he and I agree with. There are some things I disagree with it. One thing is that there are rebuttals on Fox, I rebut at least three times a week on this network and I think I do a pretty good job of it. But, you know, there are kernels of truth and I think especially where he says conservatives want to steal away from issues and go towards wedge (ph) issues and symbolic issues. And it really did start a long time ago, long before Fox existed. I think that the conservative movement in this country was very small and I think it's grown because they are able to exploit those wedge (ph) issues much better than Democrats have been responding to those wedge (ph) issues and moving the public towards issues that matter to them generally as -- INGRAHAM: When their issue -- when you say wedge (ph) issues, they are issues that people care about. It's not a wedge (ph) unless people care about the issues. And the left stated today at Kavanaugh it was all about abortion, abortion, abortion. You're going to take away our guns, you're going to take away our abortions. So, who's wedge (ph) issues are we talking about here? I mean, the left started this back in the -- HAHN: Well, you know, I'm talking about -- INGRAHAM: What? HAHN: I want to point out the part in the article we talked about the Willie Horton ad in 1988. I mean, that's really a fine example of taking something that is a -- INGRAHAM: So that was first used by Democrats, right. That was first used by Democrats. HAHN: -- and making it a (inaudible) in that campaign. INGRAHAM: Right. That was first used -- Tammy, if my memory serves me correct that was a Democrat move first, right. BRUCE: And look, I mean, that's also a presidential campaign, that's not the media. Chuck Todd's point was, it was a call for other media to attack this network and particularly individuals like yourself, Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson. When in fact, I mean look, wedge (ph) issues for them are issues that we all care about that liberals don't want to have be talked about, like immigration issues, like the direction of health care, like -- I mean, there is financial issues, the economy, those kinds of things are wedge (ph) issues. They are all issues (inaudible) to all Americans. They deserve to be discussed. INGRAHAM: You know what -- guys, you know what? Guys, hold on. There was another part -- we don't have the full screen (ph) but I'm just going to summarize it. There was paragraph in the article, because someone sent it to me and circled the part where I was mentioned because I didn't read the whole thing -- but I read most of it -- where it says, "well, and these primetime hosts are among the conservative people who make a really good living or something like that, selling their stuff (ph). We are opinion hosts. I don't pretend to be -- I'm not a network anchor, I'm an opinion host. I've been doing this for 20 plus years, OK. Since 1996 I was on MSNBC for the first 15 minutes of the network, OK. So, this idea that people just popped up, there is one network out there like Fox in all of the cable television that it tends to beat the others. And I love having people who disagree on. I love having Chris on. We love having all of our guest on left on or Democrats because they offer a different perspective. And with that I will let Chris sum up. HAHN: Look, I love giving a different perspective here and I think it's very important to have both sides represented. I also think it's important for people to get their media, their news from a lot of different places with a lot of different opinions. I have always watched FOX. I have always been progressive, but I have always watched FOX for a portion of my media diet because I think it's important for me to understand how the other side of the aisle thinks. You have to look at both sides of the aisle. INGRAHAM: Fair point. Tammy, Chris, thanks so much. And coming up, Nike apparently willing to sacrifice it all for its new spokesman. We'll tell you why the company is losing billions, next. INGRAHAM: Nike's stock tanked earlier today after the company revealed Colin Kaepernick as a face of its latest marketing campaign. Is he still playing football? Yes, it's that Colin Kaepernick, the out of work NFL quarterback who refuses to stand for the Anthem. Some Nike customers lit their shoes on fire in protest. I hope they weren't wearing them. And President Trump said Nike's decision sent a terrible message, but also noted that the shoe company was free to do as it pleased, telling "The Daily Caller" it's what the country is all about, that you have certain freedoms to do things that other people think you shouldn't do. But I personally am on a different side of it. Interesting comment from him. Joining me now for reaction is Candace Owens, communications director for Turning Point USA, and Anthony Tall, a sports agent and attorney. Great to see both of you. Candace, I was getting photos all day from people cutting out the swoosh and putting it in the dumpster. People were painting it over. It's pretty dramatic stuff, but this rubs a lot of people the wrong way. But I guess a lot of people will support it as well. CANDACE OWENS, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, TURNING POINT USA: That's correct. It definitely rubs me the wrong way just because it's dishonest. It's completely dishonest. His entire protesting from start to finish was a campaign that was dishonest with black America about issues that are facing our community. Police brutality is not an issue that was facing the black community. It was not in 2016 at the height of all this emotion and when he was kneeling. Only 16 unarmed black men were shot and killed by police officers. That stat represents 0.004 percent of the black community. This year, only 13 unarmed black men have been shot and killed by police officers, representing 0.003 percent of the black community. Of all of the issues that we could talk about and fix and he could take a knee for, this was the wrong one. Nike sent the wrong signal. This was the wrong political issue for them to back. INGRAHAM: Anthony, this is what the NFL said today. They were pressed for a quote given the outrage and the stock falling. "The National Football League believes in dialogue, understanding and unity. We embrace the role and responsibility of everyone involved with this game to promote meaningful positive change in our communities. The social justice issues that Colin and other professional athletes have raised deserve our attention and action." Jocelyn Moore, executive Vice President Pence. So what action is the NFL going to be taking, do you think? Are they going to be lobbying Congress for more oversight of the police department? Are they going to be setting up NFL training entrepreneurships in inner cities? What are they going to be doing exactly? ANTHONY TALL, PRESIDENT, THE ASPIRE SPORTS GROUP: It's my understanding that they have been in serious conversations with the players to invest money in these communities that the owners have basically went in and plucked out talent and made billions of dollars off of, and given these guys millions, which is a really smart considering what the community is leaving -- leaving the community behind and considering that there's a lot of people in that community are underprivileged. INGRAHAM: OK, I have to understand this, before, because I will forget what you just said. So you're saying when someone who is talented leaves the community, then the business has a responsibility, obligation to then to put money back into the community? I'm not saying that's not a nice thing to do, but you think it's an absolute, is it a legal obligation, a moral obligation, a spiritual obligation? What kind of obligation are you talking about? TALL: I do think it's a moral obligation, and I think it's a moral obligation, and I think that's why the NFL is in talks with its players. Remember, this is a league that is built on 99.9 percent white ownership, and have black players at 85 percent. And this is a league that has almost the same amount of black general managers. So the ideal that when you go into a community and you see that community is depleted of talent, depleted of goods and jobs and education, and you take the talent out of there and that talent brings you billions, I think it's only morally right to bring that community forward and help that community come forward. The players want to help the community come forward, so now the owners are saying they want to help the community come forward. There's nothing wrong with that. INGRAHAM: Candace, your reaction? OWENS: It's ridiculous to think that somebody would have to give back money to the community. Here are the facts, Laura -- $22 trillion have been paid into the welfare system, and the black community is poorer today than when welfare -- excuse me, I'm not saying that's welfare. What I'm saying to you is that it's fallacious to believe that giving money somehow means that you're helping. These people have to get jobs. That is something that President Trump is working on. TALL: No. OWENS: You have to get off of your own two feet. Handouts do not work. We understand that. The last 60 years, the black community has been given handouts, and it has actually not helped us. In fact it has crippled us in every major city where the blacks where flourishing, Chicago. (CROSSTALK) TALL: Athletes are the last ones you should argue about anything being not meritorious. Their whole career, their whole lives are based on merit. That's why they are leaders and they are role models in the community, because they sacrifice, they sweat. They do the same thing that allows -- (CROSSTALK) TALL: So the ideal that they are asking for some when they are asking for ownership in this business, this multi- billion business that they have cannot bring that ideals and jobs and schools to that community is unreasonable. OWENS: You didn't respond to what I just said. You basically just said -- TALL: What do you want me to respond to? OWENS: They somehow have an understanding of economics, and that's wrong. If black peoples are looking at idols in our community, they should be looking at Dr. Ben Carson, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, and Dr. Thomas Sowell, and they will explain to you why handouts -- TALL: Why can they have more than one -- OWENS: They have crippled our community in the last year -- you're going to have to learn to stop cutting me off and let me get out what I have to say. TALL: How have they crippled our community? How have they crippled our community? OWENS: There was a fallacy -- TALL: They are going into the community and they're taking out talent. Dr. Ben Carson is talent from my city, Detroit, that was taken out of my city. OWENS: I have no idea why you are shouting. This is childish. This is childish. I have no idea why you are shouting. TALL: Candace, I'm not shouting at you. INGRAHAM: Guys, guys, God bless you, this is not good TV when you talk over each other. It drives me crazy. And I want to hear from both of you. I know everybody wants to get their point in, but it's hard for me to referee. I just do want to point out, it's interesting who is supporting what the NFL is doing here. The former Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said yesterday, I wonder if he's still wearing that same brown suit. He said the NFL season will start this week. Unfortunately once again Kaepernick is not on an NFL roster, even though he was one of the best quarterbacks in the league. Since when did he become a sports commentator? Now you both have to laugh at this. This is just funny, Anthony. We've got to end this on a laugh. Come on, Mahmoud, what is that all about? Anthony, you can wrap it. TALL: I just think that there is a serious topic here that needs to be address with the ideal. I think Kaepernick and Nike did a good thing. Remember when Muhammad Ali took a stand against the war, he was heated. And then not too long ago he got an endorsement with Adidas and Adidas skyrocketed. This could be the same thing. INGRAHAM: I got it, but one of the greatest athletes that ever lived, if not the greatest athlete that ever lived, Muhammad Ali, versus Colin Kaepernick. TALL: Whom I knew, by the way, whom I knew. INGRAHAM: I'm glad you knew him, God bless you, but don't compare Colin Kaepernick who can't make an NFL team on merit to Muhammad Ali. TALL: I'm comparing the cause. INGRAHAM: Muhammad Ali was well known because he was the best of the best. Colin Kaepernick, God bless him, is not the best player in the league or even close. TALL: I didn't say he was the best quarterback. OWENS: Or the smartest. INGRAHAM: I'm ready to do that. By the way, I have a fun photo to share with everybody at the end of the show from my weekend in Notre Dame. TALL: By the way, Tom Brady liked the deal today. By the way. INGRAHAM: Great for Tom. I'm glad he's happy. TALL: That's a Trump supporter. INGRAHAM: Thanks so much to both of you. By the way, Chicago hits another grim milestone, while its Democratic mayor, get this, chickens out of the next election. We'll report next. INGRAHAM: Over 1,000 people were shot in Chicago this summer in yet another reminder of the tragedy that unfolds daily in the windy city. Now, with the city into chaos, what is the Democratic Mayor Rahm Emanuel doing? Today he announced that he is not running for reelection. Maybe they'll find a mayor who can get a grip on this violence. But it's a heavy lift. Joining me now, Dan Proft, former candidate for Illinois governor, and La Shawn Ford, a Democratic state rep from Chicago. Congressman Ford, Rep Ford, are you surprised by this development today? REP. LA SHAWN FORD, (D) ILLINOIS STATE REPRESENTATIVE: I am surprised, and I just want to thank you for being concerned about the violence in Chicago. Thank you so much for covering it and giving it the attention THAT it needs. INGRAHAM: I will, thank you. We had Mayor Emanuel, he was the star. He was considered -- some people talked to him as a possible presidential candidate down the road. But what was he not able to do? Violence has been a problem for some time but it's been especially bad during his tenure. But what was he not doing right among many things? DAN PROFT, (R) FORMER CANDIDATE FOR ILLINOIS GOVERNOR: He didn't do anything right. He was a disgrace, he was a disaster. In the seven-and-a- half years that he was a mayor, we are talking about upwards of 4,000 people murdered on the streets of Chicago, 20,000 shots so catastrophic injuries, just in the last seven-and- a-half years. You have a hired death per capita in the city of Chicago than Detroit before it filed bankruptcy. You have a Chicago public school system, one of the worst in the nation, that is embroiled in a sex scandal that rivals the Catholic Church. The tiny dancer, as I have popularized him in these parts because he is real small and he was a ballerina at Sarah Lawrence, and what kind of guy goes to Sarah Lawrence. But he was a guy who talked tough coming out of the Clinton years and the Obama years, and was a coward. All the tough decisions he said he was going to make when he came in in 2011, not a one of them he made. And that's the story of Chicago for the past 100 under Chicago Democrat rule. INGRAHAM: Representative Ford, I want to go through some of the statistics on his leadership and then we're going to look to the future. And 32 percent job approval, 18 percent said they would reelect him, 69 percent said trust in government was a major problem, that's from Garry McCarthy who is running for mayor there. Do you think Garry McCarthy has a decent shot here at this race for mayor? I mean he thinks we should be much tougher on the hardened criminals. You've got to have a better clearance rate, actually locking people up who commit violent crimes. And he thinks this is a 911 situation in the west and Englewood neighborhood, southside. It's bad. FORD: Laura, I think it's a bad plan for the city of Chicago. When you think about the way the current mayor handles the situation, it's with a heavy hand. And it's constantly talking about policing, and there has been no real plan, no real compassion for the city of Chicago. So we have to make sure that we have strong police in the city of Chicago, police that can handle the crime. But we also have to make sure that we eliminate the crime and give people opportunities throughout the communities where the violence is happening. The violence costs people in Streeterville, downtown Chicago, millions of dollars because we have to hire more police. So we have to have a point in Chicago where we are going to make sure that we say, after 30 years, Mayor Daley was the mayor for 22 years. He did a fine job of developing downtown and Rahm picked up on the develop, but that really hurt the city of Chicago. We have to make sure that we spread the developments so that Chicago can be the royal class city that we all know it could be. But you are never going to get rid of the violence. INGRAHAM: Well, you can't have development without street safe streets. Dan, we're almost out of time, but I'll let you close it out. PROFT: The first responsibility of government at every level is to provide for the physical security of its constituents. Chicago Democrats have failed to do so time and time again. And absolutely you can remove the violence. This idea, this policy of containment, like there is a bunch of George Kennans running around in charge of Chicago containing violence in these poor neighborhoods that have been turned into shooting galleries, most of the residents are law abiding. They are more worried about the layout than they are about protecting black families in the city of Chicago. It is a failure of the Chicago Democrat model of governance. INGRAHAM: OK, gentlemen, thank you very much. FORD: Thank you so much, Laura. INGRAHAM: Programming note -- all right, good to see you. And we will soon be airing an "Ingraham Angle" special, "Saving Chicago," a town hall from the windy city. Be on the lookout for that. And when we return, the White House is pushing back hard against Bob Woodward's latest book. Ed Henry is here with the latest insider reaction. Stay with us. INGRAHAM: Bob Woodward has a new book about the Trump administration that is sending shockwaves through Washington. Did you expect anything different? More on how team Trump is responding, let's go to Ed Henry here in Washington. Ed? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Laura, good to see you. You're right, the book doesn't even come out until September the 11th, and already Washington is abuzz. And breaking tonight the president is fighting back, charging author Bob Woodward has credibility problems and some anecdotes are simply false. One scene charging that after the Syrian president launched a chemical attack last year, Mr. Trump told the defense secretary James Mattis about Bashar al-Assad, quote, let's bleeping kill him, let's go in, let's kill the bleeping lot of them." The book claims Mattis humored the president but saying he would get right on it, but was stunned the president ordered an assassination, telling associates he's trying to prevent World War III. The retired general just put out a blistering statement tonight, though, saying, this is fiction, and any claim he uttered contemptuous words about the commander in chief is a product of, quote, someone's rich imagination. Chief of Staff John Kelly also denying the claim he privately said of the president, quote, he's an idiot. We are in crazy town. I don't even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I've ever had. Kelly declaring, quote, "The idea I ever called the president an idiot is not true. As I stated in May and still firmly stand behind, I spend more time with the president than anyone and we have an incredibly candid and strong relationship. He always knows where I stand and he and I both know this story is BS. I'm committed to the president, his agenda, and our country." The book goes on to say there was a practice session to prep the president for a possible interview with Bob Mueller and it went badly. The president's personal attorney John Dowd allegedly said, quote don't testify. It's either that or an orange jumpsuit. Well, Dowd is insisting, not true. He says, quote, "There was no so-called practice session or a reenactment of a mock interview at the special counsel's office. Further, I did not refer to the president as a liar, did not say he was likely to end up in an orange jumpsuit. It was a great honor and district privilege to serve President Trump." So you see a pattern there. The president telling "The Daily Caller" in an interview tonight, this is nasty stuff. He would have refuted it all but he did not get the message, apparently, that Woodward wanted an interview. The "Washington Post" has obtained audio of a recent phone call between Woodward and the president. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is a tough look at the world and your administration and you. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Right. I assume that means it's going to be a negative book, but, you know, I am sort of 50 percent use to that, that's all right. Some are good and some are bad. Sounds like this is going to be a bad one. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: The book also claims that former top aides like Rob Porter and Gary Cohn both took papers off of the president's desk to prevent him from taking radical actions. The president says that's simply fabricated. Back in 2013 as a businessman he tweeted it was rich for the Obama White House to try and attack Woodward's credibility, but tonight it's the president taking his term at that, Laura. INGRAHAM: Ed, some of the president's critics, I think the folks over at CNN, aren't they already saying the book raises questions about the president's fitness for office? Isn't this the same charade we saw with Michael Wolff's book? HENRY: People have been raising those questions again and again and again. Woodward carries more weight than Michael Wolff and some other authors like, say, Omarosa. He has a track record, we should acknowledge that, of reporting. But the fact of the matter is his critics were making these same allegations against the president before the book and I suspect they will do it after the book whether it's true or not, Laura. INGRAHAM: I think these denials are very specific and very strong. HENRY: And strong from people who have real credibility. And there are people on the left who have been holding up Mattis and Kelly and others saying these are the people running the government, we love them, and then now they are saying, wait a second, they are denying all this. So they carry some weight. INGRAHAM: Ed Henry, thanks so much tonight. Stay here, we will be right back. A memory from the weekend at Notre Dame. INGRAHAM: Finally tonight, I had the great pleasure of attending the Notre Dame-Michigan game this past Saturday. It was a great game. Notre Dame won by seven points. I predicted 11. I was a guest of Lou Holtz, what an amazing man, aside from the fact that he was a phenomenal coach. I met a lot of the 88 national championship team members. They had a big charity event that was fantastic. Lou's lads, it's called, support it. And I was thinking about all the controversy swirling around the NFL and the anthem. It's nice to see images like this one I snapped pre-game of the Michigan team. We know the Notre Dame team prays before and after the game, a legendary prayer in the locker room and beyond, but this was nice to see from Michigan as well. And they played a great game, and it was a great privilege to be there. Up next, of course, Shannon Bream and the FOX NEWS@ NIGHT team did all the great coverage today for the network on the Kavanaugh hearings. Load-Date: September 5, 2018 End of Document Uncovering Astounding Deep State Corruption; "The Hill's" John Solomon: What Professor Really Told FBI About Trump, Russian, and Papadopoulos; Ohr Grilled Over Ties To Steele; Mainstream Media Still Refusing To Retract A Fake News Story About The Botched Trump Tower Story Despite Lanny Davis Clears Out What's The Truth; Kellyanne Conway Called Out CNN For Being Bias And Not Talking About Other Important Things That The Trump Administration Is Doing For The American People; Florida Gubernatorial Candidate Ron DeSantis Won The Nomination Last Night In Florida's Primary; DeSantis Clearing Out The Word He Misspoke That's Being Overblown By His Opponent Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 29, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7639 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Jason Chaffetz, Kristin Davis, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett Guests: Victoria Toensing, John Solomon, Kellyanne Conway, Sean Spicer, Ron DeSantis Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Hey, Tucker, great show. I'm a little delayed here. I was looking at my notes. Great show as always. Welcome to HANNITY. All right. We start tonight -- you're an American citizen, you live in America. I don't care what your political party is, you need to pay attention. What we're going to tell you is beyond outrageous. Our worst fears were confirmed. The extreme level of corruption at the highest levels of our federal bureaucracy is now exposed. It is a very ugly picture. It's not a pretty picture. FISA abuse, fraud nepotism, real Russia collusion with a seedy ex-foreign spy, all in an effort to destroy and stop Donald Trump. Coming up, we're going to show you the shocking new revelations from Bruce Ohr's explosive congressional testimony. We'll also bring you a new report about Ohr's wife Nellie whose sketchy work with Fusion GPS is front and center in this ongoing investigation into the deep state. Plus, John Solomon out with a brand new story tonight. It uncovers damning flaws in Mueller's case against that one time Trump aide, volunteer George Papadopoulos. And tonight there's only days to go until the most important midterm election in our lifetime. We will explore the Democratic Party's hard turn to the left as gubernatorial candidates in two states now we're calling for universal health care, open borders and a tax rate that'll make your stomach turn. We'll also bring you very good news again from our booming economy. We'll expose the latest example of the media's sickening anti-Trump bias, especially fake news CNN and stay tuned Florida gubernatorial winner from last night Republican Ron DeSantis, he will join us to respond to a controversy surrounding comments he made right here on this channel earlier today. Buckle up. Time for our breaking news, jam-packed opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Yesterday's testimony from Bruce Ohr blew the lid off the deep state's attempt to cover up their rampant corruption. Now thanks to Mr. Ohr, Gregg Jarrett's stellar reporting and other important deep state investigations, we now can tell you the following: First, in 2016, ex-foreign spy Christopher Steele was being paid by both the Clinton campaign as op research for Fusion GPS, with funneled money through a law firm and he was being paid by the FBI. In fact, Steele was paid times by your FBI in the lead-up to the 2016 election. In other words, the Clinton campaign, the DNC, Christopher Steele, the FBI were all working on one team. Now, we also know that Steele was fired by the FBI in November of 2016 for lying and leaking to the press. Third, we know the FBI then broke its own rules their own protocol and continued collecting evidence from Steele using the fourth highest ranking member of the Justice Department, Bruce Ohr, as a back-channel. And four, we know Bruce Ohr had been in close contact with Christopher Steele and Bruce Ohr's wife, Nellie, oh she worked with Steele on the dirty Russian dossier that Hillary and company were paying for. The Ohr's were literally making money producing the anti-Trump dossier, all while passing its contents on to the FBI even after, of course, Christopher Steele was fired. And, of course, officially disclosing their blatant conflicts of interests, well, only to the FBI but not where he worked at the Department of Justice. Fifth, Bruce Ohr and the FBI knew that the contents of this dossier were unverified and by the way based on my sources they even said Bruce Ohr admitted it could be never used in a court of law but it was used for FISA warrants they also knew Christopher Steele was hell-bent as we pointed out last night on taking President Trump, candidate Trump down. And Bruce Ohr even documented that Steele was quote desperate that Donald Trump not get elected, was passionate about him not being president. And, sixth, despite Steele's obvious bias and his lies in his dossier that was bought and paid for by Clinton, the DNC and the FBI -- well, the FBI still use the information as the basis for its Trump Russia collusion investigation and they used it to commit a fraud on the FISA courts in their applications not one time but four times, and they never disclosed the true nature of the evidence to federal judges and who paid for it. They lie to these judges. It is a crime to commit a fraud against the court, and lie to a judge. It's the kind of abuse of power corruption frankly that goes on in banana republics. This is not supposed to happen ever in our constitutional republic in the United States of America. And believe it or not, Bruce Ohr although twice demoted he's still working for the DOJ. Jeff Sessions, you're in charge, where are you? And today, the president tweeted this out, quote: How the hell is Bruce Ohr still employed at the Justice Department? Disgraceful. Witch-hunt. He's right. Now, Congressman Jordan of Ohio also weighed in earlier tonight. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. JIM JORDAN (R), OHIO: Why did Glen Simpson and Christopher Steele pick Bruce Ohr in the first place why did they select his wife to come work for Fusion? They had a direct access -- Chris Steele had direct access to the FBI. He was handing them parts of the dossier. Why did they also want to run it through Bruce Ohr at the Justice Department? MARTHA MACCALLUM, FOX NEWS HOST, THE STORY: Good questions. JORDAN: It seems to me to create weight and credibility behind a document that was completely false. If you can now go tell the press and tell other people, oh, a senior Department of Justice official is also talking about the dossier and also passing it on to the FBI, it gives it weight when in fact it was completely a uncredible, unverified document and a bunch of garbage. MACCALLUM: Yes. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: There are some people in Washington, they get it. Now, of course, the Ohr-Steele text, they now make perfect sense. Remember, Christopher Steele often expressed concern to Bruce Ohr, he didn't want to be exposed. He was hoping those firewalls held. Now, we know it and, by the way, it should rock every single American -- forget your politics -- to their core. And meanwhile, Robert Mueller, he couldn't care less about the real corruption and collusion that we just showed you. And, by the way, Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele were trying to funnel what he knew or lies to Robert Mueller, instead to focus now on - - let's see, taxicab medallions, loan applications, tax returns from years gone by and lying to investigators and we have an update on that. It's just pathetic. And tonight, John Solomon out with a breaking news report it raises serious concerns about one facet of Mueller's witch-hunt. And according to Solomon, who will join us, Mueller's case against one-time Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos probably completely bogus. The special counsel has been claiming they want this kid that spent six months in jail, saying Papadopoulos lied about the sinister details surrounding a meeting with a European professor that he knew. They claimed Papadopoulos was looking for information on Hillary's hacked emails, but according to Solomon's report -- well, the professor that they reached out to that also wrote them and confirmed what he said to the FBI read, quote, repeatedly insisted that his contacts with George Papadopoulos were innocuous. And Solomon writes, quote, he went out of his way to tell the FBI there was no talk of sinister cybersecurity intentions such as a plot to hack Hillary Clinton's emails. As we have previously reported, Papadopoulos is considering withdrawing his guilty plea. We did reach out to Papadopoulos, the FBI, the special counsel and, of course, we don't get comments, although I think George Papadopoulos' wife is right. Solomon will have a full report, a damning new report tonight. All right. But, first, we're 69 days away from what I'm telling you is the most important midterm election in our lifetime. Look at the side of your screen. We have long warns you what the Democrats will do if they regain power. It is a scary picture and this is especially true for two states. One, California, which has now become so liberal, it's pretty much now almost a one-party socialist state and former San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom who wants to be president one day looks so poised to become the next governor. This is a disaster for the people of California that pay a state income tax of thirteen and a half percent. Now, if Newsom wins, voters are going to get a super-sized helping of radical left-wing agenda including, of course, Medicare for all. And under Gavin Newsom, statewide single-payer health care system, the state, they're not only going to cover the citizens of California, no, they were going to cover the all of the states the only 3 million illegal immigrants, a lot of people's health care to pay for, for free. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Plan to get single-payer passed? GAVIN NEWSOM (D), CALIFORNIA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: It needs to be pulled into the governor's office, the executive needs to lead it. Obamacare would not have happened, it was just exclusively a legislative fiat. That said, Nancy Pelosi did a magical job of organizing it, but it required the concerted contributions in the present United States. I'm not naive about it. I did universal health care when I was mayor, fully implemented regardless of pre-existing condition, ability pay, and regardless your immigration status. San Francisco was the only universal health care plan for all undocumented residents in America. I'm very proud of that, and we proved it can be done without bankrupting in the city. I'd like to see that we can -- (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, by some estimates, that radical plan, it could cost taxpayers, get this, over $400 billion, including tens of millions of dollars for the sanctuary states massive influx of illegal immigrants. It means, on average, each Californian would be on the hook for at least at least $10,000, in new taxes each year and that's assuming the thirteen and a half percent income tax stays where it is. And meanwhile in Florida, we now have a race between Republican Congressman Ron DeSantis, he'll join us in a few minutes, and the Democratic Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum. Gillum, a far left candidate, was endorsed by the socialist Bernie Sanders. He's ready and willing to implement his extreme agenda to every corner of the great state of Florida, the Sunshine State. Now, his platform includes abolishing ICE, supporting sanctuary cities, raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour, a steep corporate tax increase may be as high as 40 percent, universal health care for all, increased gun restrictions, increased funding for Planned Parenthood. If you live in Florida -- take note -- this man is ready to raise your taxes through the roof, and literally restrict your Second Amendment rights, punish small and large businesses around every turn, in pursuit of what is now the Democratic Party. This socialist, mythical utopia. Now, sadly, moderate Democrats are a thing of the past. They were driven out a long time ago. Ask Joe Lieberman. This is now the party of Nancy Pelosi and Chuckie Schumer and Maxine Waters and Bernie Sanders. It is a far left, unapologetic socialist party. They want your crumbs back. They want open borders, and they want most of all to impeach the president and keep Obamacare. But tonight, the only group hoping for Trump's impeachment more than the Democrats might actually be the corrupt destroy Trump so-called mainstream media. Yesterday, we called out CNN for standing by what is a faulty story about the 2016 Trump Tower meeting. Now, remember the breathless reporting from fake news CNN. It's all not true back in July. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN HOST: We have a Cuomo primetime exclusive tonight. A claim that goes to the truth of what the president knew and when he knew about an event that is central to this special counsel's Russia investigation. JIM SCIUTTO, CNN REPORTER: Tonight, sources with knowledge tell myself and Carl that Michael Cohen claims that then-candidate Donald Trump knew in advance about the June 2016 meeting in Trump Tower in which Russians were expected to offer his campaign dirt on Hillary Clinton. CARL BERNSTEIN, CNN ANALYST: It's very, very significant because the president has denied any foreknowledge of this event, in this meeting, goes to the question of intent to collude. BRIAN STELTER, CNN HOST: You've been saying for a year that we need to follow the money, follow the lies, and figure out this cover-up. So, how did you do it in this case? Talk to us about how you got this reporting. BERNSTEIN: Well, I talked to sources. (END VIDEO CLIPS) HANNITY: All right. We now know that a source for that report, the main source, was Michael Cohen's attorney, our old friend Lanny Davis, who backpedaled and reversed this story, making all the reporting that you just saw fake news at its worst. And it's just the latest of what is a long list of shady anti-Trump reporting from CNN, the s-hole network, the Stormy, Stormy, Stormy, Stormy network, the impeach, impeach, impeach network, the Russian, Russian, Russian network. And still, CNN, they just remain defiant, even taking a shot at the president on Twitter. Oh so much for objectivity. Make no mistake -- they try to lecture the president -- CNN does not lie. Really? We report the news, we were report it when people in power tell lies. CNN stands by our own reporting and our reporters. There may be many fools in this story but Carl Bernstein is not one of them. Yes, actually it is. And CNN wonders why crowds of Americans have singled them out, CNN sucks. They say it, they chant it, they scream it and the network still can't even admit when they get something wrong. And by the way think about -- well, they think this about the network. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AUDIENCE: CNN sucks! CNN sucks! CNN sucks! CNN sucks! CNN sucks! CNN sucks! (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I had all night. I can play all the different montages. But we've got other news to cover today. But despite CNN's long history of abusively biased, flawed reporting, the 2016 Trump Tower story was literally cheerfully picked up, repackaged by every news network back in July, except most of them at least admitted they were wrong. According to NewsBuster's, while ABC, CBS, NBC, they spent 39 minutes hyping that CNN story. As of last night they completely ignored the Lanny Davis reversal on air. And while fake news CNN and others almost exclusively push aggressive anti-Trump coverage, we're going to show you the full picture which includes an economy that is literally breaking records. Remember, they were the Clinton news network. They loved Obama. They hated Bush. Now, they really hate Trump. So, today, we learned that the second quarter GDP growth which we were really happy about, well, it actually was revised upward to 4.2 percent and we can now report that American job satisfaction is now ranking the highest it has been since 2005. Add to that, yesterday's consumer confidence number, currently at an 18-year-high. Plus, more jobs than people that are on unemployment, a record-setting stock market, historic low levels of unemployment in 14 states, African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Asian- Americans, women in the workplace, youth unemployment, 15-year low, and so much more. Thankfully, because the forgotten men and women in this country, they deserve it. The American economy is booming. Tat's what our upcoming elections in 69 days need to be about. That's what the media should be reporting. And the state of our country, by the way, is strong. And the president has literally changed things around. We're now heading in a much better direction. All right. We have a lot of ground to cover tonight but, first, with his breaking news story from "The Hill", John Solomon, and the author of the upcoming book, "The Deep State: How An Army of Bureaucrats Protected Barack Obama and Are Working to Destroy the Trump Agenda", FOX News contributor Jason Chaffetz, and good friend of the program, former assistant U.S. attorney, Victoria Toensing. Well, I have to admit has done work for me in the past and she, like Joe diGenova, came in my Christmas party. But she is a killer, tough attorney. Hello, Victoria. Let's start with you, John. VICTORIA TOENSING, FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY: Hello, Sean. HANNITY: This is -- let's go into the story because this is a follow-up to yesterday's story and I really what this professor told the FBI about poor George Papadopoulos and Robert Mueller wants this campaign you know unpaid aide to go to jail for six years. JOHN SOLOMON, THE HILL: Yes. HANNITY: You say in the piece, you don't condone lying, but the professor is clear he was never involved in anything nefarious at all, but it seems Mueller ignored it. Why? SOLOMON: This is so essential because if you remember, Sean, we've been talking about the dossier and peeled on that layers back and showing what a flawed document that was. But the FBI couldn't have got to the dossier if they didn't open a predicated file and they open it a predicated file against the Trump campaign based on Australian Ambassador Downer claiming he heard Papadopoulos bragging about foreknowledge of the Hillary Clinton email leaks, right? That's what they opened the case on. We now know that the man who allegedly gave that information, who set Papadopoulos up with his Russian contacts who did all these things, told the FBI in February 2017 there was no funny business going on. We spent our time talking about ways to facilitate peace, to talk about diplomacy, we didn't talk about cybersecurity, i.e., hacking. He completely waived them off the entire sinister notion that Bob Mueller puts in his indictment when he charges George Papadopoulos, and even in the prison recommendation document he filed this week. They make it look like Papadopoulos lied because there was some big sinister plot between this professor, Russia and Papadopoulos. And this professor voluntarily told the FBI none of that went on. It was about world peace, about diplomacy, a bunch of academics talking. This has been hyped into something it is clearly not. And I have another important point to make -- the FBI opened that allegation on July 31st, 2016. Apparently, it wasn't very important because they don't interview Mifsud until February. I have a very strong informed theory that something happened very early on to the allegation about Papadopoulos. I believe the FBI found out it was a nothingburger and they kicked it to the sidelines until February and now, we've made it into something much bigger than it is. My reporting is clearly pointing in that direction. HANNITY: And this is sad. You're going to do this to this kid and no wonder, his wife is fighting every night to save him and pull out of that plea deal. Victoria, let me go to that and add to that all the information we have about Bruce Ohr and his testimony yesterday. Robert Mueller never called him. That's pretty interesting to me. All the contacts, he was the conduit for the FBI and Christopher Steele. They're trying to funnel even that phony dossier to Robert Mueller himself. He's worried about being exposed. He's hoping that firewalls hold, and I'm thinking 70 contacts, 60-some-odd pages of text and emails and private meetings. Why is he still have a job? TOENSING: Well, I don't know why he still has a job. You know, that's -- he shouldn't and he should be out of there yesterday. But, Sean, I'm much more interested in the fact that John Huber -- remember, John Huber, a U.S. attorney from Utah who Jeff Sessions told the members of Congress calling for a special counsel, hey, no problem, I've got Huber in here, the U.S. attorney from Utah, and he's going to take care of everything. In fact, the words they use for he's really going to evaluate everything. Now, what were the two issues amongst of several that he was supposed -- he Huber was supposed to be looking at, this career prosecutor, an Obama holdover, by the way? He was supposed to be looking at the surveillance of Carter Page and, Sean, Uranium One, Uranium One. Now, let me tell you, nine months later, has Doug Campbell, my client in Uranium One, been contacted by Huber? No. Now -- HANNITY: That's amazing. TOENSING: Now, I'm also upset that neither Nellie Ohr or Bruce Ohr were contacted by Huber. How can you even do? They -- we used to do investigations when I was a Justice Department official. They're calling it an evaluation, I don't even know what that is, it's like a matter. But they were supposed to do a full-fledged evaluation to placate these members of Congress and they haven't even interviewed Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, or my client about these two issues. HANNITY: Unbelievable. And, Congressman, you know, you were the forefront of this, even subpoenaing documents well before you left Congress. People don't even remember you as a congressman. With all due respect, you've remembered more fulfilling in for Ingraham. I'm kidding, of course, and this show. But in all seriousness, you know, does the president now have to step in and get all this material unredacted, 302s, FISA warrant applications and everything in between now that we know what happened? JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, the president is going to have to do that because Attorney General Sessions is there in name only. He's not doing anything. He should have never recused himself in what, you know, is a counterintelligence operation. It was not a criminal investigation, we've been through that. But there's no reason why the attorney general can't step up and make sure that Rod Rosenstein recuses himself from the investigation. His name's on that FISA document. He shouldn't be overseeing this investigation. But he should also be insisting and making sure that the congressional subpoenas are fulfilled. And when it comes to making sure that people in these high positions at the FBI are held accountable, you can take away their security clearances. I know you have to go through the Office of Professional Responsibility, but unilaterally, Director Wray and others can revoke a security clearance and if you do so, you don't have a security clearance you don't have a job. You don't have a job. HANNITY: John, you and Victoria, the last word tonight -- John. SOLOMON: Yes, listen, I think that we are beginning to peel back another onion. The origins of this case start with George Papadopoulos. If it turns out that was a bogus story, that there was nothing sinister going on the entire origin of this case is gone, and the obligation of the FBI would have been to shut its predicates down, not pivot to Christopher Steel and go look for other dirt. HANNITY: Victoria? SOLOMON: There's something that doesn't smell right here. TOENSING: Sean, it's a legal matter -- HANNITY: You're one of my attorneys, if I lied to a FISA court or committed a fraud on a court, what would happen? TOENSING: I'd have to protect you again. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: Last word for you. TOENSING: I want to say that that Mueller lied to the court by saying that that Stephanopoulos or Papadopoulos gave him a problem -- gave him a problem in doing the investigation. That was an absolute lie to the court. Reminds me of Patrick Fitzgerald doing it to Scooter Libby, saying that he didn't know -- couldn't do the investigation because Scooter didn't tell the truth. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: This was a conscious omission. This is what conscious lies. They knew better. All right. Thank you all. We appreciate it. On this breaking news night, Kristen Fisher has a live report from our nation's capital. Sara Carter, Greg Jarrett, Congressman Ron DeSantis, Kellyanne Conway, busy news night. Stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Yesterday, disgraced DOJ official Bruce Ohr was grilled on Capitol Hill over his connection to former British spy Christopher Steele and the anti-Trump Clinton funded dossier. Joining us now live from Washington with much more is our own Kristin Fisher tonight. Kristin, what's the latest? KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Sean, House Republicans say that yesterday's testimony only heightened their concerns that federal authorities abuse surveillance powers during the 2016 election. They say Bruce Ohr who's still a high ranking official at the Justice Department told his contacts at the FBI that there were credibility issues with the trunk dossier and its author, former British spy Christopher Steele. And yet, when it came time to obtain a surveillance warrant on an aide with the Trump campaign, Carter Page, House Republicans say the FBI did not include those issues on the application. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIK) REP. MARK MEADOWS (R-NC), HOUSE FREEDOM CAUCUS CHAIRMAN: Not only did the FBI know that the dossier was unverified, but they also knew that there was real credibility issues because of the inherent way that it was collected and the bias that was associated with that. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: Now Democratic lawmakers have said that this is nothing more than an attempt to undermine the special counsel's investigation, but Democratic lawmakers did not attend yesterday's hearing. The House is in recess. So, they sent their staffers instead -- Sean. HANNITY: All right. Kristin Fisher in Washington tonight, thank you. And with more reaction, the author three weeks in a row, the number one "New York Times" bestseller, "The Russian Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", if you haven't read it, it's a must read, FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, and FOX News contributor, investigative reporter Sara Carter. Thank you both for being with us. Sara, let's start with the news portion of this discussion. You've got new information as it relates to what actually happened. Turns out our reporting was accurate, and more, Bruce Ohr never went before Mueller with all of this information we now have? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: He never went before Mueller and he never went before John Huber. I mean, Sean, this is incredible information. So, what we know now is that nobody has questioned Bruce Ohr. What we do know is that Congress is now going to call on Nellie Ohr to testify behind closed doors. They want -- HANNITY: Why behind closed doors? When do we get these transcripts? CARTER: Well, we're hoping that the transcripts will be available after Labor Day, that's what we're hearing. It's not certain, but hopefully sometime after Labor Day, those transcripts would be made available. But look, they want to talk to Nellie Ohr, they want to talk to Andrew McCabe. They want to talk to Peter Strzok and other who were close to Bruce Ohr particularly Lisa Page who had told them that she had a very low-key relationship with Bruce Ohr. In fact, she downplayed it. So now they realize that that wasn't the case so they want to go back to her. HANNITY: Let me go to you, Gregg Jarrett, let's talk a little bit about the Papadopoulos story we discussed. This is something you have focused extensive on both in the book and on the show. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: That's right. I argue that it was never Papadopoulos bar talk that triggered the Trump and Russian collusion investigation. That was a clever cover by the FBI because they got caught. I mean, think about it. A professor tells Papadopoulos that he has information from Russia about Hillary Clinton. Where is the crime in that? There is no crime. There have to be, according to FBI guidelines, specific articulable facts of a potential crime. There is none there. What happened is the FBI got caught. They used a phony dossier from a liar to launch the investigation. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But Gregg, they're putting-- JARRETT: They huddled this story to the New York Times to deflect from the dossier that they had illegally used. HANNITY: And the things that is so interesting in all of this is that, if you look at the conversations with Bruce Ohr, what, the 60 somewhat pages of text message and e-mails and you know, all these contacts over 70 of them, they were already discussing feeding what they knew were lies to Robert Mueller. In other words, Steele couldn't give up his dossier. He was afraid of getting caught, or his words, exposed and he's afraid that the walls come tumbling down, the fire walls. But they were still pushing it hard to Mueller. I want to know if they got to Mueller. CARTER: I want to know that too, Sean. I think the important question right here is whether or not any of the information that they discussed got to the special counsel? Whether it was Mueller or whether it was Jeannie Rhee or somebody else on the special counsel, I think we need to know that. I think another important factor of what happened yesterday was the fact that Bruce Ohr basically threw everybody else under the bus. Bruce Ohr was kind of saving himself. He is coming clean to some extent. And he knows that the rest of them are going to be dragged in. But he doesn't want to pay the final price. So believe me, he's going to be talking a lot more, probably in the next few days. (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: He has to say-- HANNITY: The thing that he said too, though, beyond the special counsel issue, Gregg, is that not only were they're trying to get this information to Mueller or his team. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: But they also, as it relates to the FISA warrant-- JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: -- he knew it wasn't true. JARRETT: Absolutely. HANNITY: He testified yesterday that he knew no court-- (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: And he told the FBI it wasn't true. It was a lie and the FBI was determined to go further. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But go further, what does that mean? JARRETT: To damage Trump and to perpetrate a fraud on the court to spy on the Trump campaign. This is important. Here's what should happen. This was a fraud on the court. The chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court is in charge of the FISA court he should direct the presiding judge, Rosemary Collyer to hold a hearing and call of these people from the DOJ and the FBI in there. And if she finds there were crimes committed, and surely there were, there should be a criminal referral by her to the Department of Justice against these FBI and DOJ officials including James Comey. HANNITY: The house of cards is coming down. That's why your book is number one for so long on the New York Times list. Good job both of you. Great reporting. Great work. We're very close. The cards are about to collapse. When we come back, Kellyanne Conway and Sean Spicer, they weigh in on, yes, fake news CNN and their credibility crisis. Also tonight, Florida gubernatorial Republican candidate he won yesterday, Ron DeSantis, he'll join us. Stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Fake news CNN still refusing to retract their botched Trump tower story. Earlier today, the president tweeted, "Fake news CNN is -- yes, that's a fake -- is being torn apart from within based on their being caught in a major lie refusing to admit the mistake. Sloppy Carl Bernstein, a man who lives in the past and thinks like degenerate fool, making up story after story, is being laughed at all over the country. Fake news." It is at the end. Joining us now with reaction is counsel to the president, Kellyanne Conway. You know, I watched you on the network. I didn't actually watch. I read the transcript. Then I watched the media (Inaudible) that puts up these clips of you and Chris Cuomo. I get along. I get along with Chris and Don Lemon. I haven't had any issues with anybody in the business, except for fake liberal Joe. So, I'm watching this and I'm thinking, I got a headache watching it. And I am thinking, I admire you for doing it. But I'm thinking why? KELLYANNE CONWAY, WHITE HOUSE SENIOR ADVISOR: Well, I did get two questions in about this very topic that's burning a whole week later. Twice if not three times I confronted him with the fact that CNN including on his show had let this lie fly for over a month now. And that this report, this bombshell report that they had talked about had been quickly unraveling and discredited. And would they admit that? And in his attempt to get me to call the president of the United States the l-word which I would not do, he was trying to do that again and again and again. They've been caught-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Again and again. That was the whole thing. One question over and over and over. CONWAY: They rush -- they rush to judgment about this but I got in the question about this particular issue which now this particular story which has been discredited. Lanny Davis has admitted it he made a mistake and he didn't have the information. But remember, what Lanny Davis said his client would tell Mueller essential to the entire claim of collusion which the president says is phony. And it's so central to the claim of collusion that without that, then all -- that bombshell report is just a bomb. But, Sean, this goes directly to the problem we have, which is trust immediately, tweet incessantly, and verify never. As long as it's negative, negative, negative. Why won't CNN just say look, it was based on false reporting and we retract it and we apologize? Why can't they just say it? They had to do it. They had fired three people, three reporters at CNN because they lied about Anthony Scaramucci meeting with Russians four days before the inauguration lie. That same host and other host from Sunday, their Sunday show had lied about Ted Cruz the senator being afraid to talk to CNN. Why are they only giving the interview to the mother ship Fox News, they ask. Very jealous of Fox News always and yet, Senator Cruz has just gave a CNN reporter a 15-minute on camera interview that CNN had not just aired. So, people make mistakes. But those who are constantly assailing everybody else are loathe to admit it. I appreciate you running the president's tweets about this. Because when the president talks about fake news, he is really talking about two big things. Which is, inaccurate and unfair imbalance reporting and also sins of omission. Not just commission from the network. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, Kellyanne, let me ask. CONWAY: Why are you excluding all the important information from America? Why aren't you telling them about the economy, why aren't you telling them about the growth rate, about the job creation, and about the $91 million and the-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Kellyanne, answer your own question. CONWAY: -- story of funding that president gave today the drug-free communities. HANNITY: You know the answer. (CROSSTALK) CONWAY: But you know they are not doing that. HANNITY: They loved Clinton. They loved Obama and they hate Bush and Trump. They are a biased news, so- called news network. CONWAY: Sure. HANNITY: But they won't admit that they're biased. CONWAY: I have a totally different view on all of this. By the way, I'm not sure it matters anymore, Sean. Because the president, himself, uses his considerable social media platform. Our director of social media today at the White House, Dan Scavino said in answer to the president's question in an open press forum that the president has about 160 million. That's basically one out of every two adults in this country. HANNITY: Well. CONWAY: More than that on one of his social media platform. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He doesn't need them. CONWAY: So he corrects -- he connects directly -- he doesn't need them. I don't think it matters anymore because people know when they open up their 401-K statement, when they see that they've got extra spending money, when they see less regulation and more consumer confidence they know what they see. And this president is connecting directly with them. But you also why won't they -- why won't they investigate the other side of this? Why isn't Peter Ohr the leading story on every single network tonight? The America has a right to know. HANNITY: Because-- CONWAY: In the interest of transparency and accountability that Christopher Steele was nervous. He would be up a creek without his Ohr if Peter Ohr was -- if Bruce Ohr was the next to go. People have the right to know what's making this-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I have to run but-- CONWAY: -- FBI and the DOJ taxpayer funded paid person so nervous about losing access. And the last thing I want to say is, they were exchanging messages not just in 2016 before Donald Trump was democratically elected with 306 electoral votes-- HANNITY: All right, Kellyanne. CONWAY: -- they were doing it in 2017, 2017. It's a problem we should investigate it. HANNITY: Good to see you. You're always -- you're always welcome here. CONWAY: Thank you. HANNITY: All right. CONWAY: Thank you. HANNITY: Joining us more the author of "The Briefing, the Press and the President." It's a best seller. Former White House press secretary, Sean Spicer. You know, you've dealt with this crap more than anybody to be honest with you. And you know, Kellyanne was right. They missed the biggest abuse of power story in their lifetime. They can't admit a mistake. Jim Acosta is anymore -- any one more abusively bias than more of a political hack than him. SEAN SPICER, FORMER UNITED STATES WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Look, I think the story that we are talking about now with Lanny Davis is typical of what we're seeing over and over again. The pursuit of trying to take this president down leads them to do whatever and say whatever. Despite all of the concerns that they have about people using the phrase fake news, here we have an instance which is pretty clear that Lanny Davis, they used him in a story, they put in the story that he was not available for comment. Lanny Davis has now gone on the record saying in fact, it was a comment. That in fact was a lie by CNN and they should admit it. Number two, is that Lanny Davis himself, has said that he regret and made a mistake when it come to underlying premise of the entire story. And number three, Mr. Cohen himself, in sworn testimony before Congress has admitted that in fact there was no discussion of that -- of that being fire to with respect-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He said it in an interview. SPICER: Right. But here's the thing. HANNITY: I know Lanny Davis. This is one thing everybody has got to know about Lanny. If you understand he is myopic when it comes to the Clintons. It's him. I accept it. He is also smart. He wrote a book. Tell the truth, tell it all, tell it early. So which he kind of used his own advice and he admitted it. Maybe get a little ahead on his skis here. But CNN should just admit it. SPICER: Well, they should. But look, we've seen this study from the Media Research Center. Ninety two percent of the coverage of this president is negative. That's backed up by Harvard and Pew. The fact to the matter is that there is no objectivity left. There is a pursuit of taking down this president when it comes to the mainstream media. And the bottom line is that regardless of how blatant the mistake and the lie is in their face, they are going to do nothing but they won't do anything to back down from it. Because the overarching goal is to push back against this president as hard as possible. HANNITY: Yes. Well, to destroy him. You cover it really well in your book. I know-- (CROSSTALK) SPICER: Yes. I was just going to say, Sean, thank you. I mean, part of it was to really go through and give examples to people and make them understand how these stories are done. And that's what the book really walks through. HANNITY: The good news is it is a New York Times bestseller. Congratulations to you. I don't know how you ever did this, but to be honest. SPICER: Real news. HANNITY: Good to see you. SPICER: Thanks. HANNITY: When we come back, he won a big victory in Florida last night. Florida gubernatorial candidate, Republican Congressman Ron DeSantis, he is next as we continue. HANNITY: All right. Last night, Congressman Ron DeSantis he secured the Republican nomination for governor in the great state of Florida. Big huge margin. Come-from-behind victory. He is going to face off against the Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum. And Congressman DeSantis joins us now. Full disclosure, I did do town halls with him. And we talked to people. I talked too. Anyway, good to see you, Congressman. And I endorsed you and I don't regret it. A lot of it has made you an interview with our own Sandra Smith today and you talked about not monkeying this up. And I saw your statement afterward. I saw some of the media reaction and your opponents reaction. And I want to give you a chance to respond. Did you, in any way, and do you in any way, think that was something that was misstated or racist in any way? Because that's what they're implying. REP. RON DESANTIS (R), FLORIDA: It has zero to do with race, Sean. It has everything to do with whether we want Florida to continue to go on a good direction, building up the success or do we want to turn to left wing socialist policies which will absolutely devastate our state? And here's the thing. I believe people should be judged based on their ability and character regardless of race. But it's because of that I know socialism won't work in Florida. It's not good for any race, color or creed. So this is not about race. This is about ideas and principles. And I'm not going to let the Democrats and Andrew Gillum try to obscure a debate about whether his tax increases, his single-payer healthcare plan, his desire to abolish ICE, whether that is something that's acceptable for Florida. I don't think it is and I don't care what color you are. HANNITY: Well, listen, Florida is become one of the fastest growing, lowest unemployed states in the country. And it's very diverse state. You know, but we're now in an environment where people want to purposely take things out of context. Your life's work, who you are, and what other people have said, even though on their side that they support politically doesn't seem to matter. And I guess the issue comes down to who you are, what's in your heart. And what do you tell people that are hearing that news and interpretation tonight. DESANTIS: Well, look, Sean, from athletics to the military to how I conducted myself as an elected official. I'm a straight shooter. I treat everyone with respect regardless of circumstances of birth. And I believe the great thing about this country, is that you can grow up in places where you don't have a lot of opportunity initially and you can work hard and get ahead regardless of the color of your skin. That's really-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: This is a very interesting race. We see in California with Gavin Newsom and we see with your opponent, really somebody that has taken the hard, hard left of the Democratic Party. I mean, how much does he want to tax corporations? You know, what is his position on ICE and-- (CROSSTALK) DESANTIS: Forty percent tax increase. We have an opportunity to attract record investment in Florida on the heels of the President Trump tax cuts. And doing a 40 percent tax increase would absolutely kill Florida's economic boom. We have a $1 trillion economy. It is the wrong approach. And this is all about substance. It's about people's lives and it's about what's best for the sunshine state. HANNITY: You know, it is amazing. Under Barack Obama, we saw how bad the economy. Disproportionately minorities were impacted. Record low unemployment for youth, for women in the workplace, African-Americans, and Hispanic-Americans. Policies matter about helping people where one country lift their lives. And that gets ignored by so many people. That's an important thing that you can help somebody's life. DESANTIS: Sean, in Florida we have a tax credit scholarship program for low income families where the family can take that money and go to different schools including a private school. About 100,000 families are on it. Disproportionately racial and ethnic minorities. I am a big supporter of that because the results have been phenomenal. Andre Gillum would take those scholarships away from some of the most needy families in Florida-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I don't see how you afford any of this. Let me ask you the last question. How big and important was the president's endorsement to you in your opinion? DESANTIS: No, I mean, he is the 800-pound gorilla in Republican politics. There's nobody that's even close in moving numbers. Although, Sean, my rise in the polls did coincide with you coming down. So maybe we can talk to the president data, look at Hannity, sir-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You mean, 2 percent and Trump gets 50. All right, I got it. I got my little place in the world. I do enjoy town halls and meeting people. And I can see that your message is resonating with people and Matt Gaetz. We have a great time. DESANTIS: Yes. HANNITY: Thank you for hosting me in that. That was a lot of fun. DESANTIS: Well, thank you for your support. And we are on the path to victory in November. HANNITY: All right. Thank you. We appreciate it. Gubernatorial candidate from Florida, Ron DeSantis. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh unloading on CNN for sticking to the discredited Trump tower report. That's next, straight ahead. HANNITY: Earlier today, Rush Limbaugh went after CNN for standing by their botched report. Let's take a look at what Rush says. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: One of the primary reasons CNN is hanging tough, what is going to happen to them? Nothing is going to happen to them. How can they lose any more respect than they've already lost? How can their audience get any smaller, significantly? What really is anybody going to do to them? Nobody is going to do anything to them. Nothing happens to any of these people on the side of this that are trying to nail Trump. With bogus Trumped up, never happened evidence. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Boom. Great job, Rush. All right. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues with Ingraham. She does radio, too. Load-Date: August 30, 2018 End of Document Billionaires, Tom Steyer and George Soros, Supporting Socialist Democratic Candidates, Uniting to Remake America; Andrew Gillum Wins Primary Elections in Florida as Democratic Governor Candidate; Giancarlo Sopo's Op-Ed on USA Today Warning the Democratic Party's Dangerous Turn on Socialism; CNN Anchors in Hot Waters for Defending Antifa; Catholic Archbishop of Chicago Makes Controversial Statements on Church Sex Abuse Scandal; President Trump Criticizes Bruch Ohr; Three Defendants Dismissed in Case of Utah Compound Detaining Children Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST August 29, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7896 words Byline: Laura Ingraham; Matt Schlapp Guests: Victor Davis Hanson, Eric Johnson, Giancarlo Sopo, Jeffrey Lord, Chip Franklin, Raymond Arroyo, James Trusty, Andy McCarthy Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Boom. Great job, Rush. All right. Let not your hear be troubled. The news continues. Ingraham, she does radio too. She knows everything. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Oh, hi. Oh, sorry. I was just - (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: Oh, yeah. Why would I watch "HANNITY" show? What's the point? INGRAHAM: I'm getting ready - Hannity, I'm getting ready for college football. HANNITY: Big time, me, too. INGRAHAM: Can you see what this is? Can I zoom in -- sort of zoom in on this? Yes. HANNITY: I got to tell you one thing. What are you doing -- what is the college? What does it say? INGRAHAM: Alabama, A, roll tide. HANNITY: Wow. Roll tide. INGRAHAM: Only ranked number one of the country. HANNITY: I got to tell you one thing -- I'm now a Saturday football guy. The NFL can fight over the anthem all they want. I'm done. I'm watching Saturday college football. INGRAHAM: No, I love my Redskins. HANNITY: Whatever. INGRAHAM: I'm always one of those Redskin hopefuls, where it's going to win one day again. HANNITY: One day again. I know. I thought they had the best quarterback ever and sadly injuries got to him. INGRAHAM: No. Hannity, when you bring up the football, you are so right because when Alabama came to the White House, Nick Saban shows up - (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Greatest coach ever. No doubt about it. INGRAHAM: The players were there. Every -- I'm sure a lot of people don't like Trump or the players, but they were respectful. They showed up. It was a great event. It was a beautiful day. That's the way it should -- just respect the office. You can have disagreements if not . (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Of course, it's nothing political. I agree with you. Let's keep this -- get the politics out of sports, period, agreed. Have a great show. INGRAHAM: All right, Hannity, fantastic show tonight. Great job on the CNN issue. We're going to continue with more of that. Thanks so much. And welcome to Washington. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE on a very busy Wednesday night. Another black eye for CNN. Do they have any other eyes other than black eyes at this point? Now, it's not just those stories they're getting wrong. Now they're defending one of the most violent groups in the country. A former CNN contributor is here to tell us what the heck is going on. Plus some interesting excuses from Catholic leadership as a sexual abuse scandal widens. And what former Trump official is unveiling a new musical off-broadway? I will give you a hint - it will have a short run. Raymond Arroyo joins us with that and more in Seen and Unseen and some exclusive details from inside that Bruce Ohr hearing yesterday. Former Prosecutor Andy McCarthy is here. But first, far left billionaires uniting to remake America. That's the focus of tonight's "Angle." Remember when the Democratic Party had a shred of a belief in freedom and democracy? The far left Bernie Sanders contingent used to be existing kind of only on the fringes. While more establishment figures, like Hillary Clinton and so forth, they ran the show. But no more. Big Democratic donors have begun to support some of the hard left socialist candidates that have emerged on the scene recently. Last night's election told us a lot. Top Democratic billionaires, Tom Steyer and George Soros, put their money behind far left Tallahassee mayor, Andrew Gillum, for Florida governor. Defying expectations, he pulled off our primary victory last night against six other candidates. Gillum is the African-American male version of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. He's young, he's kind of dynamic, and he's running on a platform of universal Medicare, legalize marijuana, and abolishing ICE. Exciting. And he is viewed by hard left Democrats as kind of a savior from the stranglehold of the party's establishment has had on their desires, hopes, and dreams. They picked the perfect guy. His city hall under investigation, FBI, corruption, and Tallahassee boasting Florida's highest crime rate three years running. Good going, guys. That is something to run on. But let's look at who his supporters are. Of course, many of you will be familiar with George Soros, the billionaire who has funded the Liberal Center for American Progress, moveon.org, and his Open Society Foundation, which spreads money all over the place, globally by the way. In the 2016 campaign cycle, "The New York Times" magazine reports that Soros spent $25 million on that loser campaign of Hillary Clinton and other leftist candidates' causes. This year, he's already blown $15 million to support Democratic candidates and other causes. Now, Gillum knew a good deal when he saw it. So last year, he courted Soros' organizations and spoke at a number of their gatherings. Then when they met at San Francisco, Soros promised to back his gubernatorial run. He was impressed with Gillum. Billionaire San Francisco financier and philanthropist, Tom Steyer, also bankrolled Gillum's campaigning and he saw him as basically a new and almost improved version of Obama because he was more left wing. Now, remember, Steyer is the activist who just finished up a 30-city town hall tour. And you know, he is contemplating his own 2020 run for president. That's part of what he's doing here. And he's not letting the grass grow underneath him. Steyer is running as encouraging people to sign a Trump impeachment petition. Steyer himself is kind of the impeachment pitch man. He's openly urging the president's removal from office. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TOM STEYER, AMERICAN BILLIONAIRE: How much more does congress need to see? Donald Trump has now been implicated in two felony crimes, and he's all but confessed to them on Fox News. No one is above the law. So we have to make sure this president doesn't use pardons to cover up crime. If you agree that a president should not be allowed to pardon himself or his associates, join us at needtoimpeach.com. The Washington establishment doesn't have the courage to act, but the American people can. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I should add that Steyer funneled about $800,000 into the Get Out the Vote initiative prior to the Gillum run. So, he was critical in that Gillum race as well. But listening to that impeachment commercial for a second, he thinks about the Democratic establishment, right? They've tried to keep the impeachment talk at arm's length. Well, what they are really doing is letting the billionaires boys club do their dirty work for them because they know that this mobilizes the far left base, keeps them kind of happy. And it gives Nancy Pelosi, and even (ph) Schumer, Swalwell, those types, kind of plausible deniability. That's not us. That's Tom Steyer. And Steyer has promised to spend at least $30 million to elect progressives this campaign season. This means, by the way, that he -- not Soros so far -- is the most important Democratic donor the United States. But like Soros, Steyer is not content to support any Democratic -- anyone who is running, any Democratic establishment person who comes along. His is bankrolling far left radicals who will upend the political system. That's where his mind is. He was at that -- I like the call it the not roots convention -- not roots convention -- all of those far lefties -- I got to -- crash that. It match left (ph). We got to correct that someday, Matt. And they were in New Orleans earlier this summer. Check it out. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEYER: How many people in this room think that the Democratic establishment in Washington is listening to you and doing what you want? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: None of them. STEYER: Seriously. They are message to me and the 5.5 million Americans who are demanding Donald Trump's impeachment is that it's bad politics. It is off message and it will galvanize the Republicans. To you and to me and to millions of Americans, this is all pretty obvious. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He should have worn a hoodie instead of no tie. He's trying to be like a really cool blue-collar guy, no tie, button a shirt. That's weird. If you're going to have it, open it -- button the next button down. It's weird. Sorry. I'm a woman who makes these comments. I have a question, did you think like Maxine Waters is out of town that day? It's like no one was talking about impeachment. Some of them are. Anyway, Steyer is using his billions to ensure the candidacy of these newly minted socialists who he hopes will swamp America, the whole electoral landscape for the Democrats. And Florida is a great place to start because if you can flip Florida, keep it blue or get it back to where they think it should be blue, they think they can take the presidency as well. That's what this is really all about. It's about 2020. But here's the irony, both Soros and Steyer, of course, made all of their dog (ph) being aggressive capitalists, global capitalists. Remember, Soros got all that money over in Eastern Europe where the Soviet Union fell, big money, that he shorts the dollar, and then these guys have an inside deal on the hard-core capitalism. But now that they have their billions, they want to spread the gospel of socialism, that's devastating countries like Venezuela. Two million people have left Venezuela, a huge health crisis in Venezuela, and also now in Nicaragua. We have 200,000 who fled Nicaragua. I'm going to tell you more about that story as the weeks go on. Even Europe is beginning to reject the old socialist way. In fact -- this is kind of funny -- George Soros' former protege, Viktor Orban, was just reelected prime minister of Hungary earlier this year and Orban ran against Soros' old buddy. So this is, like, anti-Soros mania. They had big billboards up and he won big in Hungary. The Soros- backed Open Society Foundation, in fact, had to close its Budapest offices less than a month after orban, his former protege, got re-elected. I love that story. Back here in the united states, it would be so foolish for us, the Republican Party, among conservatives, to just kind of dismiss this as a bunch of billionaires wasting their money. Sometimes they have wasted their money, like on Hillary. But this is not a passing fad. This is a direction the Democrats are going in. They got all these young people. They think socialism is just kind of a social club. They don't know the history of socialism. So conservatives better redouble their efforts to educate the young about the false promises and the dangers of socialism. We know they are not being properly talked about the perils of socialism in the public schools, private schools either for that matter, and the universities. So we have to do it. And we have to commit real dollars to social media campaigns, exposing what socialism is doing, make them cool, make them sexy looking, make them educational. We got to plaster social media with that. And we have to support conservative candidates who are good or great in front of the camera to repel the leftist advance. If we don't act now, you can expect Tom Steyer's impeachment petition to grow, grow longer and longer. And that's "The Angle"." Joining me now for a reaction is Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union; Victor Davis Hanson, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, and Eric Johnson, attorney and Democratic strategist. All right, Schlapp, let's start with you. I've heard some conservatives kind of -- oh, I hope they do just waste their money. But when you see that Steyer -- it's really Steyer, lesser extent Soros -- Steyer has picked this guy out as the person most likely to push forward the socialist agenda in the state of Florida. That is not an exaggeration. And by golly, he won the primary. MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: It worked, yeah. INGRAHAM: How serious should Republicans take this lurch to the left funded by some of the richest people on the left in America? SCHLAPP: Very serious because one of the of the things about our campaign laws, Laura, we don't know how much money he spends. You threw some numbers out there. That's just what we have to account for with record- keeping. We don't know what they are spending and they are dead serious that they want to spend their billions to really retake these seats. I think you're right. It's not just about winning these governor races or the Senate races or House races. It's about taking back the White House and completely stopping the Trump agenda. One final thing, the Republican Party's platform is actually pretty popular, but sometimes our leaders are worried to embrace it. The Democrat -- when the American people really know what the Democratic Party is, it is frightening. It is left wing and it is radical. And so, to a certain extent, I'd like to see this completely exposed. INGRAHAM: Yeah. Well, they media are saying that this is -- this is, like, mainstream -- this is more mainstream. This is where the country is. And Victor Davis Hanson, I want to go to you. Soros and Steyer, they made all their money on betting on markets, shorten the markets, going long in the markets, playing all these games in Europe. And now it is, oh, no. We got to bring America back to the failed policies of Europe that are being rejected to the Europeans and have devastated places like Venezuela and now we are seeing what's happening in Nicaragua. Your reaction to all of this? VICTOR DAVIS HANSON, HOOVER INSTITUTION SENIOR FELLOW: I mean Steyer got his wealth in part through investing in coal plants abroad and George Soros was indicted and injected in France and he was responsible for the crisis of the Bank of England. So, they don't have sterling ethical records. But the point is, the Democratic Party of Humphrey, JFK, or even Bill Clinton no longer exists. It's a pyramid with a few grandees on top that have enough money they can be immune from the consequences of their own ideology and then a group on the bottom who depend on subsidies and they have alienated the middle class. A lot of this passion comes from misreading the two elections of Barack Obama. They felt that that was a trajectory that was going to be permanent and create a progressive future. And really, it was unique to Obama and Hillary Clinton inherited all the downsides of losing the middle class under Obama, who, after all, lost the House and Senate in a thousand local races. But she got none of the upside, that is record minority turnout and block voting. And finally, they've so delegitimized Trump or at least attempted to and demonized them, but socialism is sort of -- is portrayed as a legitimate opposition to an abnormal situation. So, we usually -- and America don't like socialists. But if we create enough chaos, analogous to the 2008 election or the Watergate, then socialism looks sober and judicious as a foil. INGRAHAM: OK. The lack of is ignorance. So, victor, it's what you've written about for years. Matt, you've talked about it. This is in a level of ignorance about basic historical facts subverted in universities, subverted in our high schools, or not taught at all. Eric, you are proud Democrat, and I admire that. If I were Democrat today, while it's exciting to have all this money funneling in, just like the Republicans need suburban women voters, Democrats need the American middle class to return to the Democrat Party as sympathetic to their cause. How does socialism answer the concerns of blue-collar America? ERIC JOHNSON, CIVIL AND CRIMINAL ATTORNEY: Laura, the question is, if you it is all socialism then it's something that's - (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: No, they're talking about -- no, no, Eric, they are calling it socialism. What are you talking about? JOHNSON: No, that is -- they are not necessarily calling it socialism -- INGRAHAM: Ocasio-Cortez does. (CROSSTALK) JOHNSON: I think that's more of a -- no, no, not really. The thing is, if you want to label it -- INGRAHAM: Yes, she is. JOHNSON: -- many people can label some of the -- many people can label some of the things on the right as being sort of corporate autocracy or oligarchy and not for the American people. So the way you want to choose and put down these labels of the political system determines the political -- determines the public opinion on these particular subjects. Now, if you look at the donations, what Soros and what the other individual is doing is nothing different than what the Koch brothers have been doing for years for the Republican Party, feeding their money into these -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: No, no. I agree with you on that. I'm not disagreeing with you. Let's stick on the issues where we want -- advance the narrative. You are right. JOHNSON: Laura, the question is - INGRAHAM: Koch brothers spent a lot of money on local races. I'm not saying they can't spend their money. What I'm talking about -- JOHNSON: What the question is, you are labeling it - INGRAHAM: It's because - (CROSSTALK) JOHNSON: You're labeling it as socialism. INGRAHAM: Eric, you have to know what your own people is saying. Ocasio- Cortez says socialism is part of me, part of what I represent. Bernie Sanders did not run away from the socialist label. And this Andrew Gillum in Florida is for Medicare -- free Medicare, free healthcare for all -- most socialist countries have that -- abolish ICE, OK, no bordering. We're going to have no enforcement mechanisms to return people to their home countries -- (CROSSTALK) JOHNSON: Well, I want to say -- no enforcement mechanism, I would say that is different than the way that has been implemented right now. I don't believe he said open the borders total -- INGRAHAM: Yeah. Effective. So, we're not going to have effective -- JOHNSON: Well, I mean, right now, it's not necessarily as effective as it is, but it can be done in such a way that is protecting the borders but also protecting those individuals who are here and proper citizens in this country and those who are taking the proper steps to become citizens in this country. INGRAHAM: All I can say -- all I can say for all you guys -- and we got to go to our next block -- but Barack Obama was called a disappointment by George Soros, the big "New York Times" magazine piece. He said Obama disappointed him because he didn't consult him enough. Obama wasn't socialist enough for Soros. Soros wants to move -- open society is really about open borders. That is what it is, no borders, no restriction on movement, sovereignty is out the window, all those principles we hold dear as Americans, they are subverted in that world. And I don't see how it's great for the Democrat Party, I don't think it's great for the country. But look, that's where it's going. SCHLAPP: Hasn't been so good for Venezuela either. INGRAHAM: No, it's not so good. Speaking of Venezuela -- thank you for raising that. We had to go guys. Thank you for the incredible panel. We had a somewhat related topic here. Giancarlo Sopo is a Democrat. He is the son of parents who fled Castro's Cuba. And in the "USA Today" op-ed, he is warning the party against embracing what we just discussed, Democratic socialism. He wrote, "Given the horrific record of human suffering, it would be a moral disgrace for Democrats to embrace socialism just to win elections as some suggest." Giancarlo joined us now. We're happy to have him. Giancarlo, you heard the conversation. Schlapp and Victor Davis Hanson saying, warning, history tells us like a flashing morning sign, do not go down this path. They were embracing Democratic socialism. I don't care what they're trying to calling it, but they're embracing it. Your reaction? GIANCARLO SOPO, COMMUNICATIONS CONSULTANT: Well, look, I mean the socialists love poor people so much that they duplicate them by the millions. So, that's a philosophy of failure and it's a moral disgrace, like I said in my op-ed. What has happened in countries like Cuba and countries like Venezuela are human disasters. Thousands and thousands of Cubans have died at sea trying to flee socialism, trying to come to the United States of America. You have Venezuelans, 2 million have left their country in the last three years alone. And so, what you're seeing is a mass exodus away from socialism, yet they are some -- I want to be clear, I think most Democrats are honorable, good people. But I think there are some within the party that are trying to infiltrate democratic socialism and they are trying to confuse people by making them think that it is what the system that they have in Denmark. It is not what they have in Denmark. Denmark is a free-market capitalist country. What groups like the democratic socialists of America are proposing are -- it's like ideological counterparts of what you see in Havana and in Caracas. INGRAHAM: I mean, how long will you stay a Democrat though, honestly? You're going to stay a Democrat if this is where the juice (ph) ends up? If this is where it ends up, all the excitement is in the Democratic socialist movement, I mean, we want you to become a Republican. We want you to become -- you are a common sense guy. Your party is going crazy. Crazy left. Wrap it up it up. SOPO: Well, look, what I got to tell you is that the party of John F. Kennedy cannot become the party of Karl Marx, right? What we are seeing, what's happening now because of some people -- not all -- but because of some, is that a few years ago we are seeing -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: And they should denounce it. Right. SOPO: Yes. They should denounce it. Absolutely. INGRAHAM: We're out of -- I want to have you on an extended conversation on radio about this. It's fascinating. Republicans have their own challenges. This is a critical conversation and will have you back. Thank you so much. Up next, CNN embarrassing itself once again. Stay there. INGRAHAM: So, it wasn't enough for CNN to quadruple the number of dubious Trump Tower story, you know, the one that use Lanny Davis as a primary source. Well, they're now defending antifa. CNN's senior legal analyst, Jeffrey Toobin, I thought he was a lot smarter than this, reacting to the president's warning that liberals will violently turn back his agenda if Republicans lose in November. He specifically mentions antifa. (END VIDEO CLIP) JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST: Let's be clear also about what is going on here. The theme here is I'm Donald Trump and I'll protect you from the scary black people. Antifa is widely perceived of as an African- American organization. This is about black versus white. This is about Donald Trump's appeal to racism, and it just happens all the time and we never say it -- we don't say it enough for what it is, but that is what is going on. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I got to say, these are the faces of antifa. OK? Here are some of the lovelies that were arrested recently -- the Berkeley deal. Does this look like an oppressed black organization to you? I mean it's mostly liberal white kids in scarves, headscarves. It's Toobin's ham-handed attack on the president wasn't bad enough, though, anchor Don Lemon chose to defend them altogether. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Listen, there is -- no organization is perfect. There are some violence. No one condones the violence. But there are different reasons for antifa and for these neo-nazis to be there, one, racist, fascist, the other group fighting racist fascist. There is a -- fascist -- there is a distinction there. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: They say no organization is perfect? There's a lot of moments where you just can't believe this is happening in our country. But joining me now with their reactions to what's going on over at CNN, Jeffrey Lord, former Reagan official who once worked as a CNN contributor; and Chip Franklin, national talk show host and media commentator. Jeffrey Lord, let's start with you. You worked at CNN. I got to say I played Toobin bite on the radio this morning. I had to have my guys play that again. I said I don't -- I never in my life thought of antifa as a black organization. It is mostly the anti-WTO crowd, right, they occupy Wall Street crowd, overwhelmingly white, probably most of them privileged liberals. JEFFREY LORD, AMERICAN SPECTATOR CONTRIBUTING EDITOR: Correct. I know most of these people over there and I like them enormously. I heard that this morning, and I almost fell out of my chair sitting in the living room. I mean, what are they smoking? I mean, this is just unbelievable to me. All you have to do is do what I can't see, but what I assume you just noticed show some pictures here. Pay attention to these folks. Not to mention these folks are out and out fascists. I mean, they should drop the anti-and just call it fa. I mean this is a bad group of people. They are into violence, they are into hurting people, they have no business in the American dialogue, period. And for CNN to be lending them support is mind- boggling. INGRAHAM: Chip, the president today expanded on the comments about violence and he said this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT, UNITED STATES OF America: I just hope there won't be violence. I can tell you that -- I can tell you that because that's the way I guess if you look at what happens there's a lot of -- there's a lot of unnecessary violence all over the world but also in this country and I don't want to see it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He doesn't want to see violence. So, when you see those pictures, the video from Berkeley, the Trump supporters getting bashed in the head, smashing windows every time a conservative speaks on college campus or if they are upset about taking over ICE. It's just craziness. How was this a racial issue on the part of CNN? CHIP FRANKLIN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well, that's really selective, Laura, for starters. By the way, Lemon said -- and you didn't have this in the quote -- he said there are racist and fascists and one-sided and there are good people on the other, like in Charlottesville. Cornel West told me if it weren't for antifa, if they hadn't been there, if antifa had not protected them, they would have been crushed like cockroaches. Look. This country is built on violence. And this president you just played, he is a guy that set the climate. He is the guy that told the NRA they could shoot Hillary. He is a guy that told cops, why do you put the prisoners in cars and not bang their heads when -- why do you lower their heads? He also said this is a nation that if come in protest, we'll take care of the protests. He said -- INGRAHAM: I get you. So, you just recited, which is very familiar, the liberal -- FRANKLIN: I didn't recite anything. LORD: I got to -- I got to ask - (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: What -- you recited the liberal talking points and you deflected my point. My point is a very simple one. Don Lemon -- hold on, Jeff -- Don Lemon made a distinction, and he made the distinction by saying that antifa was, in fact, an organization that was kind of -- its own way standing up for what is right. And I'm paraphrasing it. There is no difference there whether theres -- (CROSSTALK) FRANKLIN: Well, it's a grassroots organization by a lot of people. INGRAHAM: What? FRANKLIN: That it's the grassroots organization of a lot of people who are -- look, this country is built on violence, 300 million guns in this country, they go and they show up. Charlottesville is a classic example. They show up to stop racists. This president says, oh, there is good and bad on both sides. INGRAHAM: Well, we played video, Jeffrey Lord, of antifa chasing down a car after the latest protest in Washington when 24 white nationalists showed up in D.C. You got people menacing -- just regular people driving down the road. So, what I'm talking about is how great the antifa people were -- FRANKLIN: I'm not saying there great. I'm saying -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: They are thugs and domestic terrorists. Jeffrey? FRANKLIN: Oh -- and the Charlottesville all right -- LORD: The American left -- wait a minute. Wait a minute. FRANKLIN: The Bannon -- the people -- no, you wait. Trump was the one encouraging that - (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Now, Bannon wasn't in Charlottesville, Chip. Don't sell that garbage on this show. Come on. FRANKLIN: No, but -- LORD: Chip. FRANKLIN: It's not garbage. You know what? The one-sided approach you add to this, the people on the right that are con for violence. Trump said, he said if the midterms go the Democrats way, there's going to be violence. You don't find a problem with that? That doesn't bother you. INGRAHAM: You go back to Charlottesville -- we have Antifa all across the country. Charlottesville has been condemned, including by the president. FRANKLIN: They don't have a central organization. These are people standing up against the kind of violence that you are propagating. INGRAHAM: They are standing for chaos and anarchy. Jeffrey? LORD": Laura, in 1968 Donald Trump was, what, about 18-years-old or something like that? Where was he when the Democrats were under siege that their own Democratic convention by leftist protesters? Donald Trump was nowhere near these WTO protests. He was nowhere near when they were smashing windows -- FRANKLIN: Seriously, you're going back to '68? Mayor Daley is dead. Let's talk about today. LORD: You're telling me this is Donald Trump's fault? You're telling me this is Donald Trump's fault? This is in the left, violence is in the DNA of the American left, and always has been. FRANKLIN: You are high. Look, if this president comes out every day and calls for violence against people who disagree with his administration -- INGRAHAM: What? He comes out every day -- he just said, we got to tamp down on the violence, it's not good in this country, and we can't stand for it. We just literally played the soundbite, Chip. And you come out and say that you should work for CNN. God bless you, but we just played the sound bite work Trump said no violence. And you say the president -- FRANKLIN: This is a guy that lies. He's lied to 3,000 times in the year and half, and you're going to take one sound bite and say that exemplifies this president? Come on. You've got to be honest with yourselves. INGRAHAM: I think, again, if the Democrats want to appeal to people in the middle who they need, and Republicans have their own set of challenges, you got to be very careful who is running the show on the protest front. And that applies to Charlottesville and it applies to Antifa. Great conversation. Mounting calls to the Pope to resign. We'll tell you about it, next. INGRAHAM: It's time for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we unravel some of the big cultural stories of the day. Tonight we have Me Too comeback, a Trump musical, and a cardinal dismissing the sex abuse scandal in the Catholic Church. I'm joined by Raymond Arroyo, FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the fantastic "Will Wilder" series. Raymond, the Me Too movement claimed a lot of careers, but now it seems like comedian Louis C.K., he was out. He's a big Trump basher by the way, and now he's in. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: FX, HBO, Netflix, they all canned him. You remember he exposed himself to women, sexual, inappropriate actions. He left. He apologized, though, Laura. Now he is staging a comeback. And in New York the other day, he did a 15-minute set at a little comedy club on the east side. And people are complaining, particularly victims, saying it's too early, you shouldn't have come back. This is a little taste of his comedy. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LOUIS C.K., COMEDIAN: I'm the guy that women see and they go uh. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: And they are still going uh. And now Matt Lauer of "Today" show fame, he talked to some fans at a restaurant, it was reported in page six this week. He said, I'm going to back on TV soon. Matt Lauer had a list as long as my arm off accusations against him. The question is how long do you have to stay in Me Too purgatory? My sense is, you have to have a public contrition. You need to be called out and shamed publicly, I think. But then it's up to the audience. These guys can put their toes in the water and see if the audience will accept them. My guess is they want. The scandal is bigger. INGRAHAM: Matt Lauer, a lot of the blue hairs were going up to him -- Matt, I love you and Willard Scott. You were great with Willard. They're the glory days. We like the Smuckers segment. ARROYO: Where's Bryant? (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Looking for Bryant Gumbel and Katie. I've got to tell you about a new off-Broadway musical that was unveiled the other day by a former, it's very brief, White House official. He introduced the cast of a new Trump musical at a New York press conference. I wish I were making this up. Here's Anthony Scaramucci. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI, FORMER WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: It just is great fun. My stock answer is I always wanted a second White House press conference, and I couldn't get one, because I only lasted 11 days. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: So he introduced this cast, who are playing members of the Trump family. I will set this up very quickly. This is kind of like an Osmond special, Trump family is gathering, but daddy Trump doesn't show up. So Ivanka has to assume the role as hostess. And what does the family do when data is detained? They sing. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (SINGING) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, my God. ARROYO: That is so lousy. INGRAHAM: Did Anthony Scaramucci, who's been very nasty, by the way, to me, very nasty, even though he sat where you set a couple of times, not anytime soon, but did he have some creative -- was he better at producing or being involved in this than he was as five seconds as press secretary? ARROYO: I think they just hired him to promote this thing. But why? It's so embarrassing. It's like a guy -- INGRAHAM: First of all, why is Ivana back? God bless her, Ivana is not a fat woman. ARROYO: I will only go see this win the Mooch and Omarosa are fill-ins. When they come into the cast, I'll be there. INGRAHAM: This weekend a former Vatican diplomat charged that the Pope and several bishops worked to conceal and protect sexual abusers in the Catholic Church. Chicago Archbishop Cardinal Blase Cupich told the local NBC affiliate of the Pope is just too busy for all this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CARDINAL BLASE J. CUPICH ARCHBISHOP OF CHICAGO: The Pope has a bigger agenda. He's got on to other things, talking about the environment and protecting migrants and carrying on the work of the church. We're not going to go down a rabbit hole on this. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: So wait a minute, charges that there are corruption and a culture of silence at the very upper echelons of the church, that is a rabbit hole, that affects victims today and victims to come? I don't think so. INGRAHAM: Let me just tell you, that Cupich comment was disgusting, dismissive, and revealing of how far left the Catholic Church has gone. ARROYO: I can top it. He said, here's the real reason that we are seeing this resistance to Pope Francis and these accusations. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CARDINAL BLASE J. CUPICH ARCHBISHOP OF CHICAGO: Quite frankly, they also don't like him because he's a Latino. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What? ARROYO: They don't like him because he's Latino. Bergoglio is full- blooded Italian who grew up in Argentina. So I am more Latino than him. But I don't know if we're going to have time. There was a cheer that went up today at the Papal event, the Wednesday audience in Rome, and some people thought they were yelling "Vigano," who is the archbishop that made this -- INGRAHAM: Accusations that the Pope knew about McCarrick's sleeping the seminarians deal. Let's watch the audience. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (CHANTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: There is some dispute as to whether this is actually Vigano. There was a bishop on the stage with the Pope. His name is Italio. And they're saying this is a crowd of kids yelling Italio, Italio. Some friends who I knew were they, they claim that it was a blend of things. INGRAHAM: It started Italio. ARROYO: It ended Vigano. INGRAHAM: This is like that viral thing. What was it? ARROYO: Yanni or Laurel? INGRAHAM: Yanni or Laurel? Vigano or Italio? ARROYO: You be the judge. INGRAHAM: We won't, except when I listened to it, sounds like Vigano to me. What is that telling the Pope up there, what is it telling him? ARROYO: Let me tell you, he is, according to reports, embittered by this, but he hasn't said anything. People are crying -- INGRAHAM: Guess what Vigano said. He said I am completely serene and at peace because I said the truth. As President Trump launches a new offensive against the DOJ's Bruce Ohr, we have new info tonight about what Mr. Ohr revealed during his closed-door testimony, next. INGRAHAM: President Trump took another shot earlier today at Bruce Ohr, that DOJ official thought to be behind the politically charged Steele dossier, tweeting, "How the hell is Bruce Ohr still employed at the Justice Department? Disgraceful. Witch hunt." I happen to agree. We have now learned some inside details of what happened to Mr. Ohr when he testified behind closed doors yesterday. Joining me now to explain is former federal prosecutor and FOX News contributor Andy McCarthy. With me here in the studio, former DOJ attorney James Trusty. Andy, let's start with you. What can we conclude now about Ohr? Then we're going to move on to the Sessions and the Donald McGahn issue. ANDY MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Apparently, Laura, Ohr is cooperating with the Congressional committees, and I think the most intriguing thing we heard was that he provided the names of a number of people who were in the loop in terms of what he was doing in communications with Steele. He was in communication with Christopher Steele, who is the author of the dossier, throughout the period of time that the dossier was being written and compiled by Steele, and it seems that Ohr is an important person because he's really at the nexus of the Fusion GPS and the Justice Department, FBI side of what I think is actually the most interesting collusion we have seen so far. INGRAHAM: You've written a great stuff about what the real collusion is here. And James, it is wild that we don't have any indication that Bruce Ohr was -- either he wasn't revealing that his wife was a Fusion GPS person to any of his superiors, or they didn't care. Meanwhile, meeting with Christopher Steele, and now apparently seeing a widening circle of people involved in this. What is your initial take on this? JAMES TRUSTY, FORMER DOJ ATTORNEY: The whole thing is amazing. And at some point, the disclosure about where his wife is working obviously should have made its way through the channels. But I think that the whole circumstance of sitting down from his position with Christopher Steele a dozen times, with the FBI taking notes and creating a report, is just unheard of. I have to think, we'll find out eventually maybe, but I have to think it's freelancing, that he's on his own frolicking detour with the FBI, with nobody supervising, nobody looking at it, and we all find out -- INGRAHAM: We don't know, we don't know, though, do we? This went into 2017 with his having these conversations. This was proceeding past the election. TRUSTY: Sure. INGRAHAM: And we know about the insurance policy that they needed. That was discussed by Stzrok. They are freaking out that Trump is president. This is all they got, they got this dossier. They've got to keep this thing going, keep this thing going in order to get the surveillance to continue, the FISA warrant to continue against poor old Carter Page, the affable Carter Page, a sweet guy. But the whole thing, it's like, we've got to hold onto something. Christopher Steele, we are not supposed to talk to him because he's already talking to the media, the explicitly axed him out, but I can still have these backchannel conversations with him. That can't be ethical, is it? TRUSTY: You can't, no. INGRAHAM: Crazy. How is he working in the Justice Department still, by the way? TRUSTY: Let me say this. When you are the Department of Justice, I was there for a long time, Andy was there for a long time, in main justice, although there some wonderful people that work in international affairs that choose to work there, there is no bigger sign of purgatory then being sent there against your will. So the fact that Bruce Ohr is an international affairs means that he is not an favored status. He's hanging by a thread. The cumbersome process of discharging a federal employee is very long, but that's a clear sign that he is not in cahoots or in step with the leadership there. They are not looking to keep them there. INGRAHAM: Andy, let's talk about where we are with the Jeff Sessions in and Jeff Sessions out of favor at the White House. Democrats are now kind of rushing -- sometimes with Jeff Sessions, they don't like him on any policy, but you get the sense that if Trump is mad at Jeff Sessions, Democrats want to embrace Sessions. What is happening there? MCCARTHY: It's hard to know, Laura, because in terms of what we are talking about tonight, we haven't seen anything happening. Sometime ago, the attorney general -- this is months ago -- said that he was referring this sort of investigation of the investigators to both the inspector general at the Justice Department, Mike Horowitz, and also to John Huber, the United States attorney for the district of Utah, who is supposed to be taking an independent look at this, as if he were a special counsel but one who is in house in the Justice Department rather than brought in from outside, like Robert Mueller. That all sounds great. In fact, it is along the lines of what I and a number of other people recommended. The bizarre thing is we haven't heard a thing about it. And I'm all for investigative integrity and investigative secrecy, but at a certain point I think we are entitled to know what are they looking at, what have they come up with, and can we get some kind of an interim report of where they're at. We haven't heard a word. INGRAHAM: Ben Sasse, quickly, James, said he's not going to push to confirm any replacement for Jeff Sessions. The never Trump people, they keep creating a narrative we've got to protect Mueller, special counsel, we've got to protect Rosenstein, we've got to protect Sessions. I never heard these people more willing to protect Republicans in my life. TRUSTY: It is unusual stretch. How often have we seen a president basically publicly ridiculing the attorney general and the deputy attorney general? We are pretty far removed from John and Robert Kennedy at this point. But the bottom line if it is, the president is entitled to have faith in the people that he puts in those positions. He clearly has problems with him. What I think is kind of interesting is you're starting to see little bits of backlash in very subtle ways from either the attorney general or the DAG, where they are getting very fatalistic, the deputy attorney general. They've just being very fatalistic. If you are going to fire me, fire me, and that's kind of the tone they are taking. But they are still chugging along and doing their business. So a lot of politics do it, but in terms of the day-to-day operations of the department, I think it is going to keep going. INGRAHAM: Andy, does Don McGahn, his apparent departure after the confirmation of Kavanaugh it looks like, anything big that we should know there? MCCARTHY: Laura, I really don't think so. For myself, I've heard this was going to happen for months, and I have much less good sources than you all down in Washington have. So it doesn't seem to me like -- INGRAHAM: They're freaking out about this all day long. So I figured Andy McCarthy would set us straight. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Now we have some horrifying revelations out of rural New Mexico in that horrible case there that the media is not showing you. According to the most recent evidence, the Wahhaj family has been using their compound as a terrorist training camp for the 11 children they were holding. Agents found these handwritten letters titled "Phases of a terrorist attack," which detail the steps to a successful suicide attack in the name of Allah, yes, in the United States of America. Despite all of that, a judge in New Mexico today decided to release three of the five defendants, ruling authorities violated the state's 10-day rule. How do you botch that? Andy McCarthy is back with us. I'm so glad you stayed, Andy, because this also has an interesting connection to the case that you worked on, the '93 World Trade Center bombing. We're going to get to that in a moment. But explain how we could get to this place where three of the five defendants are released. MCCARTHY: While, Laura, they made these arrests a couple of weeks ago, and I guess they have been investigating since, and they have gotten to the point where they either have to charge them and an indictment or go through what they call a probable cause or a preliminary hearing. And what I sense happens was they decided that two of these characters were the ringleaders, and they appear to have ratcheted up the charges on the two of them. And then decided perhaps that they couldn't make the case and the other three, so they didn't go forward on those. That doesn't mean that they can't at some future time indict them, but that seems unlikely to me. INGRAHAM: I guess, it doesn't matter if they are flight risk because they are not charged with anything. But that is the concern obviously. Right? MCCARTHY: Right. They had already been sprung on bail to begin with, which was I think in some ways more outrageous than what happened today, because if what happened today they didn't have enough evidence to go forward that's one thing. But letting any of them out I think is insane. INGRAHAM: Can you explain -- the whole thing drives me -- this whole case is so hideous, what was done to their children, one dead. But Andy, explain your connection, I've got a minute left, to this case and the '93 World Trade Center bombing. MCCARTHY: Laura, the father of the ringleader runs a fairly notorious mosque in Brooklyn. His name is also Siraj Wahhaj, and that mosque hosted the blind sheikh who I prosecuted in the early 1990s in connections with the World Trade Center bombing and a plot to bomb New York City landmarks. He actually appeared, that is, the eldest, Siraj Wahhaj, as a character witness for the defendants in the trial. So we are seeing a guy who was enmeshed in this ideology back when, and here you have the results of it. INGRAHAM: We are welcoming this into the United States apparently. And then releasing people back into the system. I don't have a good feeling about this at all. Andy McCarthy, thank you so much for your insights, as always, so appreciated. We'll be right back. INGRAHAM: Raymond and I are going back and forth. Is it Italo or Vigano? ARROYO: Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (CHANTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Now I kind of hear Vigano. I kind of hear Vigano. INGRAHAM: Vigano is the archbishop accusing the Pope about McCarrick. ARROYO: Right. And Italio is a bishop that was standing next to the Pope at the Wednesday -- INGRAHAM: I'll say the Vatican tonight I bet is saying it's Italio. They don't want that archbishop's name to be shouted, the papal audience. What's causing trouble now over the Vatican? I think -- we out-troubled (ph) the cause (ph) here. 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Welcome to HANNITY. You will not believe what we're about to tell you tonight. It'll take the full hour. Twice demoted DOJ Bruce Ohr was grilled by Republican lawmakers for seven hours behind closed doors earlier today. The information he revealed is tonight blowing this case wide open in terms of a fraud that was committed multiple times against the FISA court, all to get Donald Trump and his campaign and undermine his presidency. Everyone who signed off on these FISA requests signed off on fraudulent documents and they knew what they were fraudulent. Now you won't hear this information anywhere else. Of course, your media is obsessed with hating Trump but in minutes, we're going to tell you everything you need to know about Bruce Ohr's testimony today including damning new revelations surrounding the rampant abuse of power in our FISA court system. What we're about to reveal should rock the country to its core. And also tonight, we have a breaking new report from John Solomon about a clear case of actual real, with proof, Russian collusion connecting the dots between Bruce Ohr, the DOJ and a Putin-linked Russian oligarch. It happened. Robert Mueller, where are you? Jeff Sessions, pay attention. Now, we'll cover all the latest sad examples of actual fake news from CNN. One of their key sources, Cohen attorney Lanny Davis, was feeding them a bill of lies. He says it wasn't true. He's completely backtracked about his claims related to Trump Russia collusion, but CNN stands by their tainted reporting. Amazing. And coming up I have a message for fake news CNN and their media reporters. They watched this show because it's more interesting. Maybe they need to watch their own network. And a strong new economic indicator more evidence that the economy is just blowing it through the roof. All of that, plus, we are tracking primary races in multiple states. Now, just moments ago, it was announced that FOX News is projecting that Trump ally Ron DeSantis will win the Republican primary for Florida governor and FOX News is projecting the Governor Rick Scott, who's done a great job in Florida, he will win the GOP Senate primary and he will be going up against Bill Nelson. We'll bring you the results as we have them. All right. But, first, sit tight, buckle up, time for our jam-packed opening monologue edition. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Tonight, we are blowing this case about Bruce Ohr, FISA abuse wide open. I've been on the phone with sources all day and all night, people who were in the room during Ohr's testimony. We did learn today that Bruce Ohr said that he understood the Steele dossier would never have been accepted in a court of law. He understood it. We have 65 pages of notes and text, and then meetings between him and Christopher Steele. He said the FBI knew about the seedy relationship with steel. So much to cover. Stay with us. We'll break it wide open. But there's no doubt that a conspiracy to commit fraud against FISA court judges did in fact take place. Now, let's dive into the testimony from Bruce Ohr today. Now, remember, he is the twice demoted DOJ official who once helped ex-foreign spy paid for by Hillary, Christopher Steele, spread all these anti-Trump Russian lies throughout the highest levels of our government and today, during a closed-door hearing, Bruce Ohr was grilled on the Hill by members of the House Oversight and the Judiciary Committees for seven hours. Now, the crucial issue at play here is rampant FISA abuse surrounding Christopher Steele's dirty dossier with Russian lies that Hillary Clinton illegally funneled through a law firm into Fusion GPS hiring then Christopher Steele. Now, our sources say that that topic was front and center at the hearing today. Get this -- Sara Carter is now reporting, she'll join us later, that we now know that the FBI was aware of Steele's blatant and extreme anti-Trump bias before they used as dossier is the bulk of their FISA court applications. Remember Bruce Ohr even wrote Steele was, quote, desperate that Donald Trump not get elected. He was passionate that Donald Trump not being president of the United States sounds just like Carter just like Page and Strzok. And Sara Carter also reporting that today's hearing proved that the FBI was using Bruce or as a back channel for Steele's anti-Trump intel even after the FBI cut all formal ties with Christopher Steele over trust issues, and he's saying that the FBI knew everything. And despite this, Congressman John Ratcliffe who was a part of today's hearing is telling us that Ohr was not mentioned in any of the FBI FISA applications against the Trump campaign associate. Now, Congressman Radcliffe, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett and John Solomon will all be with us tonight. This is yet another sign of the FBI's blatant effort to hide the true nature of Clinton's bought and paid for Steele's dirty Russian dossier it was campaign op research. It was compromised. It was never verified or corroborated. It turned out to be lies, Russian lies, funded by the Clinton campaign and the DNC. They funneled the money through a law firm, hiring Fusion GPS, that then hired Christopher Steele, an ex-foreign spy that had really seedy Russian connections we now know who was working with and for Fusion GPS, and by the way was also on the FBI payroll. This is really the cherry on the top. He was working with Bruce Ohr's wife, Nellie Ohr. The Ohrs were literally profiting off their relationship with Christopher Steele. Ohr said today that he disclosed that to the FBI. Really? And the FBI was OK with that? Now, at the end, this is where we are. We now know for a fact that in four separate FISA court applications, FISA court judges will repeatedly lie to, knowingly lie to. The American people, you were all lied to, all in an effort by high- ranking government bureaucrats to steal, sway, rob an election and at all costs stop Donald Trump from winning and then to destroy his presidency. Now, communications between Ohr and Christopher Steele, 60-some-odd pages of it. It shows that Steele was extremely concerned about being exposed for this and for good reason because this level of corruption and abuse should make every single American citizens sick, a blatant example of what I've been telling you a two-tiered justice system. Hillary Clinton gets a free pass. Trump is literally targeted by our government with her salacious, phony, campaign op research put together by a foreign national using Russian sources for lies. We have a brand new article tonight from Gregg Jarrett. He'll be with us too. He details how the one-time FBI director James Comey took control of the Clinton investigation, took it right out of the hands of the field offices and twisted the facts, soften the language, exonerated Clinton, rigged her investigation from the very beginning. There really never was an investigation. Clinton was never going to be found guilty, because she was the favorite candidate. And meanwhile, the FBI, the Department of Justice, they work hand-in-hand with ex-foreign spy Christopher Steele to use his phony lies to open an investigation into allegedly Trump-Russia collusion. They gain these FISA warrants illegally against a Trump campaign associate. They potentially leaked that information, we know they leaked it, to the general public, to sway opinion with lies. This is the stuff that happened in the former Soviet Union. All of this despite everybody knowing including Ohr admitting today that Steele's shady past that has worked for the Clinton campaign that is blatant bias against Trump, that is leaks to the press, that he was let go by the FBI that was also paying him, it's no wonder President Trump keeps talking about a witch hunt, and he's livid with his attorney general. Mr. Sessions, where are you tonight? Why are you standing by and literally doing nothing to fix what is clearly a horrific inequality in our justice system? Now, today, Senator Lindsey Graham, he summed it up best. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Word of caution to the public -- a lot of people who try to convict President Trump, don't be so fast. I've seen no evidence of collusion after two years. Mueller is looking at it. We'll see what he says. Plenty of corruption at the Department of Justice and the FBI, it should be stunning. Not one Democrat seems to care. Reverse the roles. STEVE DOODCY, FOX NEWS HOST: What corruption? What do you mean? GRAHAM: OK, just imagine if the Republican Party had hired a foreign agent to go to Russia to get dirt on Hillary Clinton and they used it to get a warrant and never told the court about it, I'd be front-page story everywhere. That's pretty corrupt when the two FBI agent and the U.S. attorney per -- I mean, the DOJ lawyer, it's our job to stop Trump, can you imagine what would happen if it's our job to stop Clinton? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, we have a lot of breaking news tonight right here in this program, in other words, we do have news to break as it relates to Russian collusion. It's been found -- I know Robert Mueller cares about taxicab medallions and old income tax reports and loan applications, maybe Mr. Muller should take note of what we're reporting tonight because we have a new report from John Solomon, follow the bouncing ball, Bruce Ohr, the DOJ closely working with a Putin-linked Russian oligarch for years. And most recently, the FBI tried to squeeze the oligarch for information surrounding Trump Russia collusion including a theory that Paul Manafort was leading Trump campaigns collusion efforts. By the way, he'd been into a lawsuit with Paul Manafort and even he said that's ridiculous, it's absurd. And according to Solomon, the oligarch actually used the word preposterous. Now, think about this -- this is the same Russian oligarch that the U.S. won't even allow into the country. He met with Bruce Ohr. He met with other top officials. You've got to be kidding me. How much more insane does this get? You cannot make this up. We reached out to Ohr, the DOJ, the Russian oligarch involved. Of course, we didn't get a response. We're going to have a lot more on all of these issues all of the key players are joining us tonight. But meanwhile, the biggest cheerleader of Trump Russia collusion has been caught red-handed yet again, reporting fake news to you the American people. In July, fake news CNN, they broke a huge bombshell story detailing shocking evidence about Trump's involvement in the now infamous 2016 Trump Tower meeting. We've got the tape to remind you. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) JIM SCIUTTO, CNN REPORTER: Well, Chris, tonight, sources with knowledge tell myself and Carl that Michael Cohen claims that then-candidate Donald Trump knew in advance about the June 2016 meeting in Trump Tower in which Russians were expected to offer his campaign dirt on Hillary Clinton. Crucially, these sources tell us that Cohen is willing to make that assertion to the special counsel Robert Mueller. CARL BERNSTEIN, CNN ANALYST: It's very, very significant because the president has denied any foreknowledge of this event, in this meeting, goes to the question of intent to collude. BRIAN STELTER, CNN HOST: You've been saying for a year that we need to follow the money, follow the lies, and figure out this cover-up. So, how did you do it in this case? Talk to us about how you got this reporting. BERNSTEIN: Well, I talked to sources. Cohen was saying that Donald Trump, the candidate for president of the United States at the time, had authorized the go-ahead for that meeting to take place with his son. (END VIDEO CLIPS) HANNITY: More humpty-dumpty CNN fake news. And according to "BuzzFeed", one of the unnamed sources in the report was called attorney Lanny Davis. He's now completely backtracking on his claims to fake news CNN. He says that his client in fact does not have information of Trump's knowledge of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting. He's saying that CNN's anonymous sources including himself, we were wrong. And after all, Michael Cohen testified under oath. This is all coming out that he had no knowledge of Trump's involvement in that meeting or anything else. And we also have a new wrinkle in the story. When CNN published their, quote, bombshell report, they wrote that Lanny Davis declined to comment in an article where he was the primary source. That's fake news at its worst. Now, tonight CNN is actually laughably standing by that horribly flawed story. Spokesperson even said to us they are confident in their phony reporting. It seems like a perfect story for some members -- media reporters at CNN but I guess they're probably too busy watching this show every night because they can't even watch their fake news network and their own terrible reporting that comes from them every day. Now, the debacle surrounding Lanny Davis is just the latest in a long line of faulty reporting from fake news CNN. 2017, three CNN employees resigned after a fake story about our friend Anthony Scaramucci. A few months later, CNN was slammed and publicly embarrassed over a fake report about Donald Trump Jr. And let's never forget, CNN's fake reporting over President Trump. Remember when he was with the Japanese prime minister and they were feeding the fish. Now, since the very moment, Donald Trump announced his run for office, CNN has been blinded by their hatred. And now, while the network ramps up this crazy rhetoric and faulty reporting to destroy the president, the country is actually improving by leaps and bounds. Stock market breaking new records. We're seeing historic low levels of unemployment in 14 states, African- Americans, Hispanic-Americans, women in the workforce, youth unemployment the 52-year low. And now, we have more great news that they'll never report. Consumer confidence today closing at an 18-year high, so much more good news to report on the economic front. We'll get to all of that. Joining us now more information on Bruce Ohr's testimony. He is Texas Congressman John Ratcliffe. And from "The Hill", John Solomon. We'll start with you, Congressman. Let us talk about what we learned today. Is it true? Did Bruce Ohr ever testify before Robert Mueller? Did that come up today? REP. JOHN RATCLIFFE (R), TEXAS: It did come up, Sean. I have to be careful, I know your viewers want information, but there's a confidentiality agreement. But you have good sources, I listened to your monologue and you're on track with respect to Bruce Ohr -- HANNITY: Well, I heard he never testified to Robert Mueller and you're smiling. So, I'm guessing that's a good guess. Now, what would -- John, wouldn't that mean a lot if he didn't testify before Mueller considering, what, we have 60- some-odd pages and notes all the meetings and the fact that he said into under testimony today that in fact, this Steele dossier could never be used in a court of law but he's used as the basis for a FISA warrant to get FISA a court approval on spying on Americans? (CROSSTALK) JOHN SOLOMON, THE HILL: I'm sorry, go ahead. RATCLIFFE: I didn't know what John you were talking to. HANNITY: Well, we'll ask John Solomon first. John Solomon? SOLOMON: Sorry, sir. Yes, listen, many of the members I talked to said they thought that was one of the most important revelations today, that Bruce Ohr said he's never heard nor has his wife ever heard from special counsel Mueller. If Mueller wanted to get to the bottom of this, the questions that Congress has raised that are now in the public, whether the FISA warrant was legitimate and the origins of this investigation were legitimate, you would at the very least, he'd want to talk to Bruce or and find out why was he playing the intermediary role. I was told today, emphatically, Bruce Ohr has said he was never interviewed. I think that raises a lot of questions for people in Congress. What is Bob Mueller really up to? HANNITY: He worked -- now, we have 63 pages of text, emails and handwritten notes, Congressman, between Ohr and Steele. Steele had already been fired for lying and leaking. He got paid not only by Clinton through Fusion GPS and the DNC through Fusion GPS, but he also was on the record as hating Donald Trump saying he was desperate that Trump not get elected and passionate about him not being president. Did he comment on any of that today? RATCLIFFE: He did. I can probably summarize it the best way like this, Sean. When the Department of Justice walks into the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and says, we want a warrant to spy on an American citizen and the central piece of our evidence in our case is a dossier, there's an obligation to say, oh and by the way, the number four person in our organization and his wife had major prominent operational roles with respect to how that dossier was put together, how the FBI received it. And by the way, they were paid handsomely by third parties for that. Those are what we call material facts. HANNITY: Let me ask you this -- RATCLIFFE: The material facts that have to be disclosed and in this case, they weren't. HANNITY: But he told, he said today as I understand it that in fact, he told the FBI that his wife had put this together, and they still used him as a back-channel. So, they never told the FISA court that piece of evidence. They never told the FISA court who paid for the dossier. So, the only conclusion is now we know, it's irrefutable at this point that the FISA court was repeatedly lied to in four separate FISA applications. Is that a true statement? RATCLIFFE: Well, here's what he said -- or here's what I can tell you about his testimony today. My real question walking in, Sean, was what did the FBI in the Department of Justice know about Bruce Ohr and his wife? HANNITY: The FBI I know I'm told. RATCLIFFE: His testimony today that he gave us a list of a half-a-dozen senior FBI and Department of Justice officials that he told of his involvement, his wife's involvement, all of the details of their interactions with Christopher Steele with Glen Simpson, with the payment. And these are names, Sean, that would be familiar to you. I've heard you say some of these names on your program before and I can tell you as someone that has reviewed the FISA applications, the unredacted versions -- I can't talk about what's in there but I can tell you what's not in there and what's not in there is any information about Nellie and Bruce Ohr. HANNITY: Well, so, basically I want to go back to my question though -- the FISA -- a fraud was committed multiple times on a FISA court. They purposely withheld information to the court as it relates to if the FBI knew that, in fact, Steele that it, in fact, put this together and that he'd never verified it and if they never told the court that Hillary paid for it, isn't that a fraud committed on the court? Isn't that lying to a court? RATCLIFFE: If Bruce Ohr testimony today was truthful and accurate than what you're saying about the information that was not submitted to the FISA court, it should have been -- it's a big problem. HANNITY: A big problem or is it against the law to lie to a court? RATCLIFFE: Well, as a former officer of the court you have an obligation to have a full and complete disclosure of facts and -- HANNITY: If I lie to the court, do you think you could get me out of prison? (LAUGHTER) RATCLIFFE: Hey, there is nothing more sacrosanct than Americans civil liberties. So, what we're talking about here -- HANNITY: Right, I agree with that. I wouldn't think of it. Just like you pay in taxes, do it. Just do it. RATCLIFFE: If I were one of those folks that were identified today and I can tell you that in at least one case, one of the names that he identified for us today signed one of those FISA applications. I'd retain a really good lawyer. HANNITY: I think his name's J.C., but I'm just guessing. There's one of them anyway. Thank you, Congressman, for being with us. RATCLIFFE: You bet. Thanks for having me. HANNITY: John Solomon for your breaking report because you go into great detail. Here we have, you know, you tie it all together as it relates to this Russian oligarch and Bruce Ohr and Steele and the Department of Justice. I'll let you give a summary of this report. SOLOMON: Yes, listen, the FBI had a 10-year relationship with Oleg Deripaska, the head of the largest aluminum company in Russia. He funded $25 million rescue mission for the FBI to try to rescue a former agent. That's a good thing. In 2015, Ohr showed up and asked him some questions about organic on organized crime in Russia. He tried to give him some guidance. In 2016, a more consequential event occurred. The FBI showed up in September 2016, one month before the FISA application, and they said, listen, we think Paul Manafort is colluding with Russia to help Trump win the election. We now know where they got that information. They got it from Christopher Steele. That's in his dossier. And Deripaska tells him, a trusted guy who's been with him helping him for 10 years, I'm telling you, it's preposterous, it's not happening. You got it wrong. HANNITY: You wrote in this piece that collusion occurred, Russian collusion. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: And you tell a tale of Ohr, Steele, Deripaska, the FBI and DOJ tie it all together so everybody understands completely. SOLOMON: You know, we talk about any contact with Russia must be terrible. Well, the FBI had lots of contacts with Russians and many times they got benefit from it, right? They got a help in trying to locate a former agent. They got information waving them off bad intelligence. But here's the real problem with collusion that goes into the FISA warrant -- when Deripaska tells them, hey, you're wrong about Manafort. I can tell you, you're wrong about Manafort, they had an obligation a month later to go to the court and say, well, listen, Steele's telling us this, but this Russian guy we've had a lot of good record with, he's telling us something different. There's no evidence that occurred. Another thing that Steele -- HANNITY: And, by the way, Deripaska, this is not just any oligarch. SOLOMON: No. HANNITY: This is a friend of Putin's. This is a guy that frequently appeared with Putin. SOLOMON: If you look at video clips, you'll see him in many of the clips with Putin when there are public meetings. He's a very powerful in Russia. HANNITY: So, what's interesting that all of these are the players -- SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: -- Bruce Ohr, others, they're all meeting with Deripaska who's friends with Putin. This is supposed to be about collusion and we're talking about taxi medallions and bank loan applications now. SOLOMON: It -- for people who are frustrated by the case, they see this double standard, right? Democrats can collude with the Russians, get whatever information they need. They can buy it. They can hire British intelligence guy. But when Republicans have a meeting with a Russian, it suddenly sounds like it's criminal. HANNITY: Yes. SOLOMON: That's been what's frustrated people so much about the unfairness and that telling of this story so far. HANNITY: Congressman, we'll give you the last word on this time tonight. RATCLIFFE: Well, as a former federal prosecutor, I got to tell you, what I heard today in Bruce Ohr's testimony was shocking alarming and disappointing. These types of things didn't happen in the Justice Department where I worked and, you know -- HANNITY: Let me ask the question another way, Congressman. We're running out of time. You're a former prosecutor, and I have a lot of respect for prosecutor. It's a hard job, especially people that don't go on witch hunts and they believe in equal justice under the law. Is there anybody that could do what happened here that's watching this show tonight that could omit purposely key information in an application to get a warrant to spy on in this case an opposition party campaign associate in the lead-up to an election and not be arrested and put in jail? Those people that put their name on those FISA warrant applications, aren't they swearing by the truthfulness, the veracity of those applications and if they knowingly withhold information in those applications, aren't they really -- is this premeditated fraud on a court? Everybody that signed them, did they commit fraud on a court? RATCLIFFE: My opinion on this is, Sean, that there's a guy named John Huber who's been -- he's the U.S. attorney for Utah who's been tasked by Jeff Sessions to investigate FISA abuse. HANNITY: Where is he? RATCLIFFE: Well, my recommendation to Mr. Huber would be would be for him to contact my office and ask for a copy of the transcript of Bruce or and I'll make his job a lot easier. HANNITY: Can I -- can I have a copy of it? RATCLIFFE: Not yet. But -- HANNITY: OK, thank you, Congressman, we appreciate it. RATCLIFFE: You bet. HANNITY: John Solomon, great reporting. We're going to stay on this. First, we do have a FOX News alert. FOX News has another race to call and tonight on this busy night oh big night in Florida for the president. He's two for two down there. Ron DeSantis, Governor Rick Scott both won their primaries. DeSantis running for governor. Rick Scott is running for an important Senate seat down in Florida against Bill Nelson who does nothing. Ed Henry, what do you got? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Sean, this is a huge upset. Fox projecting right now an upset win in Florida's gubernatorial primary. Based on the latest vote returns, FOX is projecting that Andrew Gillum has won the Democratic nomination. The key here is that he is backed by socialist Bernie Sanders. This is a complete upset. He beat former Congresswoman Gwen Graham. She's the daughter of the former Florida governor and Senator Bob Graham. She's much more moderate establishment. This is a sign the Democratic Party being pulled further and further left even in a swing state like here in Florida. It pits this Bernie Sanders backed candidate in Andrew Gillum against as you mentioned, Ron DeSantis, backed by President Trump. So, this could be an epic clash here in the Sunshine State in November in these midterms. Gubernatorial battle Sanders versus Trump essentially when you've got DeSantis who was given no chance of winning just a few months ago had a dramatic victory tonight against Adam Putnam, the state agriculture commissioner. The president tweeted just a few moments ago, quote, such a fantastic win for Ron DeSantis, and the people of the great state of Florida. Ron will be a fantastic governor on to November. Look at how pivotal the support was by the president. In mid-June, Mason- Dixon polling had Putnam beating DeSantis by 15 points. A week later, the president sends out a tweet, one tweet endorsing Ron DeSantis. All of a sudden, the numbers completely flipped. DeSantis in mid-July was up by 12 points, so that's a 27-point swing, Sean. And all of a sudden, DeSantis tonight wins not, just wins, wins big on the Republican side for governor. You mentioned Rick Scott who is leaving office as governor, he has easily won the Republican primary to face Bill Nelson, the Democratic senator. He may be in a lot more trouble the Democrats first thought. Nelson in this battle against Governor Scott now running for Senate. And then again, in this gubernatorial race, I can't stress what a big upset this is that Andrew Gillum, the mayor of Tallahassee, would be a first African-American governor if he wins in Florida by the way, Sean, backed by Bernie Sanders that was his big endorsement. Sanders versus Trump in the Florida governor's race. HANNITY: All right. Ed Henry big report tonight, big news, and we saw the DeSantis rise and it was connected directly to the Trump endorsement and he's well liked out in Florida. He'll be a good governor. Rick Scott will be a great senator. All right, and today, disgraced DOJ official Bruce Ohr wart testifying on Capitol Hill behind closed doors. FOX News chief intelligence correspondent, our own Catherine Herridge, she has the latest from Washington now - - Catherine. CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CHIEF INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: Thanks, Sean. Good evening. The closed-door deposition lasted seven hours with the consensus among Republican lawmakers the Justice Department official Bruce Ohr told the FBI there were issues with the Trump dossier and its author former British spy Christopher Steele, but the evidence suggests the national security court or FISA court was kept in the dark when it granted a surveillance warrant for a Trump campaign aide just two weeks before the 2016 election. One lawmaker said Ohr's answers about the timing and handling of the dossier do not line up with other witnesses, including former FBI lawyer Lisa Page who sent anti-Trump texts and Glen Simpson who testified on the Hill last December. His firm Fusion GPS was paid by the DNC and Clinton campaign for the anti-Trump research. With more than two decades of government experience, Ohr's portfolio at the Justice Department was gangs and drugs not Russia, but in 2016, documents show or became the back-channel between the FBI officials and Steele after the bureau fired him as a confidential source. Earlier today, Ohr ignored my questions. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HERRIDGE: Mr. Ohr, who authorized your contact with the FBI? Mr. Ohr, were you acting alone or did you have authority from a Justice Department official? How did your wife benefit from the dossier's contract? Did you have a conflict of interest? Mr. Oh, will you take our questions? (END VIDEO CLIP) HERRIDGE: Lawmakers say Ohr had a conflict because his wife Nellie worked for Fusion GPS and did the Russia research. Those inside the closed-door deposition told FOX that they saw no Democratic lawmakers participating in the questioning today. They left that to their staff and lawyers, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Thanks, great work, Catherine Herridge, as always. HERRIDGE: You're welcome. HANNITY: Joining us now with more reactions in today's breaking news, he is the author of the three weeks in a row number one "New York Times" bestseller, "The Russia Hoax", way ahead of the curve, "The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Greg Jarrett, and FOX News investigative reporter and contributor Sara Carter. Sara, let's stay on this, then we'll get the background from Greg. We'll do it backwards, and that is, oh, he never testified, never was called to testify before Robert Mueller -- Robert Mueller who cares more about loan applications and taxicab medallions, and we've got real evidence that FISA courts were lied to. It is irrefutable and incontrovertible. We've known for a long time, this blows it out of the water. The courts were lied -- SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: It does. HANNITY: -- to repeatedly. Anybody that signed those warrants signed on to what they knew was a knowing lie. That means Comey and Yates and Rod Rosenstein. They signed up, they lied and put a fraud on the court not once but four times using phony Clinton bought and paid for Russian lies. CARTER: Sean, the sources that I've spoken to today that were privy to the testimony that Bruce Ohr gave said -- what they learned showed that what the FBI did and the DOJ was so unacceptable and absolutely inexcusable. One of the things that Bruce Ohr did discuss, some of the questions there that Catherine (ph) was throwing out was that he had not informed his superiors at the DOJ that he was providing this back door channel for Christopher Steele. Another really interesting point, I thought... HANNITY: But, Sara, he did tell FBI officials. CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: Didn't his boss, James Comey, signed off on the first FISA warrant? CARTER: That's absolutely correct. And he did discuss with deputy -- former deputy director McCabe who was fired for lying. He discussed this with Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, which was really fascinating because Lisa Page played down her communications with Bruce Ohr. She was actually according to Ohr part of his circle, part of the people that he was discussing this with at the FBI. I think that's highly significant. And the fact, Sean, that they withheld all of that -- that is evidence withheld, all of that evidence from the secret courts. The top court in the land is absolutely inexcusable to the sources I have been talking to. And it's very, very damaging. HANNITY: Let me go to Gregg. Your piece today is phenomenal. You really give the whole history. You lay a great foundation unto this. But I want to get to this because you have Bruce Ohr saying today that he understood this could never be used in a court of law. OK. But it was used as the bulk of information for the FISA court applications. Now, if he understood that, and his I guess his wife understood that, why was he still trying to read 65 pages of notes, texts, emails, messages, hope the firewalls hold, I hope we don't get exposed. It is now beginning to come together that this was a broad conspiracy to defraud the FISA court and to really take down Donald Trump? This is not a game anymore. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: It's essentially the title of my book. And everything that came out today corroborates. HANNITY: You're right. JARRETT: In fact, it's worse. We learned today that James Comey's FBI was far more corrupt than we ever knew. We already knew that he used a false document from a wire they fire (ph). But today we learned that Bruce Ohr told Comey and his confederates that this is a guy, Christopher Steele, who had said he was desperate to stop Donald Trump. He was vagrantly (ph) anti- Trump. They should have stopped right there in their tracks and said goodbye to Steele, thrown his dossier in the garbage. But they didn't care. They moved ahead to launch this investigation of Trump to damage him and to spy on a Trump associate. These people should be prosecuted for obstruction of justice, for perjury, abuse of power, and about three other felonies I can think of. The law enforcers became the law breakers. And where is the FISA court? Why aren't these judges holding these in criminal contempt? Why didn't they prosecute these people with indictments. HANNITY: Ohr is admitting today, right -- he is admitting that what we already knew that Steele didn't standby his own dossier. That was in your column today. We have mentioned that many times. Oh no, no, I don't know if any of this is true, but he had -- he was desperate that Trump not get elected, passionate about him not being president, but they still used it. JARRETT: Yes. HANNITY: That's the point. JARRETT: Oh, it's a fraud on the courts. HANNITY: Isn't that a crime, Gregg? JARRETT: Oh, absolutely. It's six different felonies as I outlined in my book. HANNITY: And it's a fraud based on Russian lies paid for by Hillary Clinton. JARRETT: They knew were going to get caught, which is why they can continue to verify the dossier even after they used it. HANNITY: Great report. JARRETT: We're trying to cure their illegal conduct. HANNITY: And by the way, didn't Rod Rosenstein sign off on the third application? JARRETT: Yes. CARTER: Yes. JARRETT: Rosenstein is knee-deep in obstructing Congress by withholding documents. HANNITY: Sara. CARTER: Sean, you know, look at this. They used the dossier, not only through the court system, they withheld that information. But then later, James Clapper, John Brennan, the briefing that they gave to then-president- elect Trump, where we know the information from the dossier was then leaked to CNN suspectedly by Clapper himself according to congressional members that are investigating this. So not only did they know the dossier was invalid, but they continued to use the dossier to pump out disinformation on president-elect Trump and President Trump. This is serious. These are serious crimes to the court. And what they have done is presented a disinformation campaign against an administration where the only people that appear to have been collaborating with the Russians were the people that were involved in this, Fusion GPS, the Hillary Clinton campaign, you know, and all of the other people that were involved in collecting information. HANNITY: All right, guys. Great work tonight. Both of you -- both of your articles on Hannity.com, FoxNews.com, SaraACarter.com. We have a lot news this week. Pretty amazing day. Thank you, both. When we come back, Joe DiGenova and Mark Penn on Alan Dershowitz's warning, Robert Mueller is gearing up to subpoena Donald Trump. That and more straight ahead. HANNITY: Earlier today, Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz said that he believes that Robert Mueller is quote, gearing up to subpoena the President of the United States. Here is now with reaction, former Clinton pollster Mark Penn and former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Joe DiGenova. Full discloser, yes, he's done some legal work for me. He's very expensive, but really he's worth it, him and Victoria (inaudible) lawyers in the country. And he did come to my Christmas party. Mark Penn will be invited next year. But you know, I'm watching all of the developments today. And I think probably Dershowitz is right. I think Mueller wants to do it. He is following taxicab medallions and loan applications. We've got FISA courts literally lied to with Russian propaganda, the American people, Russian lies perpetrated in this last election cycle. He has no interest in any of this. Can you believe we learned today that Bruce Ohr was never called before Mueller? Mueller is not serious about any really Russian collusion. Joe DiGenova. JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: What we know is that Bruce Ohr also, we just learned, was not interviewed by Mr. Huber out in Utah who allegedly is investigating all of the FISA abuse and the unmasking. Sean, if Mr. Mueller wants to subpoena the president, he can certainly try. But he is going to lose. And the reason is very simple. The special counsel has already interviewed the president's lawyer, Mr. McGahn, for 30 hours. Anything that he learned from him, that's the president's knowledge. The president therefore under the law is not readily available. He is under no obligation to testify. And if Mr. Mueller pursues the subpoena, he is going to lose in the Supreme Court because he already has all of the information he needs. And then, there is one more very important thing. He is using the grand jury for impeachment. That's an unconstitutional use of the grand jury. And that's another reason he will lose. You can't use grand jury subpoenas to get testimony... HANNITY: What he will do, Joe is that 70 days from now, we know that we're going to have a selection. DIGENOVA: Right. HANNITY: In my opinion, what Mueller is going to do is he is going to write a road map for the Democratic Party to impeach President Trump. DIGENOVA: Oh, absolutely. Oh, absolutely. This is an impeachment investigation as far as it concerns the President of the United States. And any notion it was designed to get illegality concerning that the entire campaign is a falsehood. Not only is Mueller not investigating it, but it is clear now that the Department of Justice under Rosenstein and Sessions is not investigating the unmasking or the leaks from the grand jury, or anything else, or the leaks of classified information involving the president. Jeff Sessions and Rosenstein have now abandoned all semblance of respectability. This is truly disgraceful. HANNITY: And the president politically if he fires them, I can hear the comparisons on the Saturday Night massacre. DIGENOVA: He doesn't need to fire them now. It's not going to make any difference because the damage that they have done to the presidency over 18 months has actually made him stronger. Oh, well, but let me just say this, this president will survive this. And when the elections -- when the midterms are over, Mr. Sessions and Mr. Rosenstein will be gone. HANNITY: Mark, I know you come at this a little bit different from me politically. But you see the wide range. How did we go from what was supposed to be collusion and we have evidence of real collusion that were blown wide open. And FISA court judges lied to and omissions on purpose and even information they were fed from Russia, that turned out to be lies. That's not discussed. People care more you know about loan applications. MARK PENN, FORMER CLINTON POLLSTER AND ADVISER: Well, look, my fear all along was that this would be 1998 all over again. We wasted a year of our nation on something that we then decided was of no consequence. And again, the same thing that is happening as this investigation has moved not from whitewater but from Russian collusion to payments to Stormy Daniels. HANNITY: There were convictions. There was some connection in the original mandate. PENN: True. True, there was connection to the original. And remember, we made the decision to testify before the grand jury. In my recent poll said 60 percent would like President Trump just as they wanted President Clinton to testify. But when President Clinton testified, what happened, he got impeached. It didn't actually do him any good. HANNITY: You would tell the president that in this case, stay away from Mueller and his band of Democrats? PENN: I would say that if you ask me three months ago, before what has come out, I would have said you got to testify. I think today, I would say don't testify because there is nothing you could say that would be new that he would really need to write the same report that he is going to write anyway. HANNITY: And we know -- let's say if Don McGahn testifies for 30 hours, whoever made that decision doesn't make sense to me, but maybe in the end, it was the right one. But if the president says something that contradicts what Don McGahn said, it's the special counsel that hates Trump will decide which one to believe, Joe? DIGENOVA: Well, there is no doubt whatsoever that the Mueller investigation has lost all credibility, all semblance of objectivity and fairness. And it is now abundantly clear since he is not interested in any of the violations of the law from the Obama administration, DOJ, and FBI since Bruce Ohr hasn't even been interviewed by him. It's very, very obvious that Mueller is a get-Trump operation, impeach Trump operation. And therefore, it is completely, completely out of control, and is entitled to no respect whatsoever. HANNITY: Last word, Mark Penn? PENN: Look, I think there is no question that if the Democrats win, right now, we're headed for the same thing in 1998. And I wish we could avoid it by getting to the bottom of what really happened to the FBI, and blow this thing over. HANNITY: I know we can avoid it. Don't vote for Democrats. PENN: I'm not going to agree with you on that one, Sean. HANNITY: Nothing in there -- there's nothing that they want to do that is going to help the men and women of this country. They want their crumbs back. They want open borders, they want to keep Obamacare, and they want to impeach the president and the investigation into the biggest abuse of power ever. Not a good scenario. PENN: I want to see some moderate Democrats, Sean. HANNITY: That's all right. We still like you. When we come back, Ari Fleischer, Don Bongino, they will weigh in on CNN fake news, report on the Trump-Russia collusion. Stay with us. HANNITY: Fake news CNN, they're at it again. And Mediaite points out, quote, that CNN addresses Lanny Davis and Michael Cohen report without answering any questions about. Joining us now with reaction, former White House press secretary, Fox News contributor Ari Fleischer, and our ATV contributor, former secret service agent, Dan Bongino. Ari, when the source says they were wrong and then they still standby the report, why do I think they don't care about the truth at that point. They will just make it up. ARI FLEISCHER, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: This is just such a mistake by CNN. I really can't understand it. Right before we came on the air, CBS retracted the story. Everybody retracted their story, except CNN. And it's the fifth in my playbook. It's a bombshell that CNN reported. All of which were anti-Trump and none of which came true. And if CNN had eggs on its face, four out of five they had to retract. And they don't want to retract this one. I don't know why. HANNITY: You know, Dan, to me, I believe that the president calling out fake news has done more damage I think in a very positive way. It's something we conservatives said for a long time. There is a liberal bias in the press. And I think they will be viewed with skepticism that maybe didn't exist in the minds of the mass population before. DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: You know, Sean, for guys like me who ran for office before, that dealt with the press in a different way, that bias is real. No one is going to convince me otherwise. I've had arguments about facts like 2 plus 2 equals 4, where a liberal media person will say no, it's 4.5. I promise you. Listen, here is the problem with this. And Ari is right. It's just incredible that just by sheer odds alone, you think a Trump scoop that CNN got at least once would be a pro-Trump scoop. The problem is, as Ari correctly said here, all of CNN's scoops that get debunked later, their big stories are always anti-Trump stories, which means one of two things. Either CNN is full of suckers or they are lying. I don't know which one is. And for them not to retract this story, Sean, is absolutely absurd. Ari is right. The source for the story is the lawyer of the guy, Michael Cohen. HANNITY: Michael Cohen's testimony is coming out, Ari. It's all going to be -- we are all going to see, we all know that he denied vehemently these things. And he did it in other publications. FLEISCHER: Right. HANNITY: You know, I think -- I will be very charitable to Lanny. I have known him for years. I think he is just blinded. Any time Clinton is involved, he is just blind. FLEISCHER: All right. Lanny is a spokesman and a loyal Clinton spokesman. He wants to take Trump down to be blind. It's another for journalists to allow blind people to get on the air to speak, and not deal with it when they make a mistake. Now, I will put myself in CNN's shoes. The only thing I could think off that would allow them to standby that story when they know that Lanny got it wrong is that Michael Cohen told it to them. But then, if Michael Cohen told it to them then he committed perjury when he testified before Congress. So that's the only thing you can hang your hat on if you are CNN. And if that's the case, they need to come out and say it. Otherwise, this is journalistically embarrassing for CNN, as the only network standing by when everybody else has pulled it back. And especially, Sean, like I said before, do you know what they did to Donald Trump, Jr., when they said he had advanced knowledge of WikiLeaks? They got burned on that story. They won't cite their sources who burned them, yet they reported that as a bombshell. These bombshells that are duds are killing journalism. HANNITY: All of these networks, all of these newspapers, sort of all group thing to quote Tucker. They get on one fixation a day. We will hate Trump on this today. And they all get on the same page. It's remarkable the amount of this bubble they live in. But the American people are in that bubble. Dan Bongino. BONGINO: Yes, Sean, you play these montages on your show before. It's like a coordinated outrage campaign. The one you had the other day was genius, the impeachment one. This is what they do. They compete with each other to see who could be more angry at Trump. But they don't realize they are not hurting Trump, they're just hurting themselves as their reputations go down the toilet. HANNITY: Well said. All right. Thank you, both. Good to see you. When we come back President Trump today gave the press a red card at the White House. We'll show you the video. We'll explain straight ahead. HANNITY: Today, the president met with the president of the FIFA organization to commemorate North America winning the bid to host the 2026 World Cup games. And at the end of the meeting, there was a lighthearted moment if you watch soccer. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GIANNI INFANTINO, FIFA PRESIDENT: One more thing. It could be useful for you. You know, in soccer, we have referees, right? And they have cards, yellow cards and red cards. The yellow card is a warning. And when you want to kick out someone, it's a red card. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Now, that's true. That's very good. INFANTINO: Well, this would be useful, I don't know. TRUMP: I like that. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You know, they pull them out quick. All right. Let not your heart be troubled, Ingraham is here, taking it over. Load-Date: August 29, 2018 End of Document Hillary Clinton's Server Was Being Hacked by Chinese Hackers in Realtime; Media and Prosecutors Being Used by Partisans for False Investigations; Primaries in Florida Won by Ron DeSantis for the GOP Gubernatorial Race and in Arizona, a Heated Three-Way Race between McSally, Ward and Arpaio; President Trump Criticizes Google for Bias against Conservatives; Report Estimates Number of Immigrants Overstaying Visas in U.S.; Possible Causes of Florida Shooter's Violence Examined Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST August 28, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8166 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Ed Henry, Byron York, Guests: Harmeet Dhillon, Peter Schweizer, Ron DeSantis, Corey Lewandowski, Jason Nichols, Allen Orr, Tom Homan, Carole Lieberman Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: You know, they can pull them out quick. Let not your heart be troubled. Ingraham is here taking it over. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: I love the red card. I mean, if you are nice, you want to give him a yellow card. Hannity, when I played field hockey, I got just a few yellow cards and maybe one red card. It was -- HANNITY: I got in trouble. I played ice hockey. I spent a lot of time in the penalty box. I was a big fan of the broad street bullies and Bobby Clark and Reggie leach and Hound Dog Kelly and Dave Schultz. That's what I grew up (inaudible). INGRAHAM: Oh my god. That's why people love you Hannity. Awesome show tonight. HANNITY: Bobby Clark was my favorite. He had no teeth, none. INGRAHAM: Oh no, that's like Gordie Howe on those guys. They're just like (inaudible). HANNITY: Yes. They played (inaudible). It's like, did you ride a bicycle? When you rode a bicycle, did you wear a helmet? INGRAHAM: Never. Are you kidding? A helmet? HANNITY: But you make your kids wear a helmet now. It's crazy. INGRAHAM: No, no. Bubble wrap our children, Hannity. That's what we do today. (Inaudible). HANNITY: Helicopter parents. INGRAHAM: Great show tonight. Thanks so much. HANNITY: All right. Have a good show. INGRAHAM: All right. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington. What a show we have for you tonight. The case of Hillary Clinton's private server just will not go away. Now, there are reports -- and this doesn't surprise me in the slightest -- that China was hacking her e-mails in real-time. Peter Schweizer, best person we could have to break it down is here tonight. Plus, primary voters hit the polls in three states across the country tonight and at this hour, polls have now closed in Arizona where candidates from both parties are vying for the chance to succeed retiring Republican Senator Jeff Flake. It's too early for Fox News to project a winner on both sides, but we will have a live report on the ground at all the pivotal races for this November's midterms. Plus, we'll talk to one of tonight's big winners -- we already know. And that president is also taking aim at some tech giants who he believes and many of us do, are unfairly targeting unfairly targeting conservatives. That will be a spirited debate later in the hour. But first, the press, prosecutors and partisans and their incestuous relationship. That is the focus of tonight's "Angle. OK, last month, CNN ran with a bombshell of a story. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Sources with knowledge tell, myself and Karl, that Michael Cohen claims that then candidate Donald Trump knew in advance about the June 2016 meeting in Trump Tower in which Russians were expected to offer his campaign dirt on Hillary Clinton. Crucially, these sources tell us that Cohen is willing to make that assertion to the special counsel, Robert Mueller. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Why is Chris Cuomo's head so much bigger than the other two heads? I don't know why I focused on that. OK. Well, the accompanying article on their website revealed that "contacted by CNN, one of Cohen's attorneys, Lanny Davis, declined to comment." And just a week ago, Lanny Davis, Michael Cohen's attorney, doubled down again on CNN. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LANNY DAVIS, MICHAEL COHEN'S ATTORNEY: I think that the reporting of this story got mixed up in the course of a criminal investigation. We were not the source of this story. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, a little problem there. He was lying! Lanny Davis was actually the major source for the entire story. He was also the anonymous source that confirmed its other outlets. Now this week he came clean telling "The Washington Post" that he is not certain the claim is accurate and that he could not independently verify it. And yesterday, he tells "BuzzFeed News" that he regrets his whole role as an independent source in a subsequent denial of his involvement in the story, if you can follow that. Davis merely saying he "made a mistake." But he actually didn't. Lanny Davis is an old Clinton fixer who has been spinning information and using the press to do his bidding for decades. Now, this was deliberate, and the folks at CNN were only too happy to join him in this misinformation charade. Why? Because they have a common enemy. It's Donald J. Trump. So Davis floats a malicious and salacious story to target a political adversary and the media gleefully disseminate it. Now CNN's Sciutto and Bernstein delighted in this tale of Trump's misdeeds because it fits the pathetic Russian narrative that they have been trying to substantiate for a year now. They used to call CNN, remember, the Clinton News Network in the day. Well, with Lanny Davis as an unpaid contributor, it is more fitting than ever. Forget 1998. It's fact. But this reminds me of the disgraced FBI Director Jim Comey. We call him James "Too Tall" Comey, OK, fine -- who's planted more stories than Martha Stewart has planted hydrangeas. OK? Comey passed his memos of classified conversations between himself and the president to a friend. Remember that memo to the file? And he did it for media consumption. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMES COMEY, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR: I understood this to be my recollection recorded of my conversation with the president. As a private citizen, I felt free to share that. I felt it very important to get it out. SEN. ROY BLUNT (R), MISSOURI: So why didn't you do give those to somebody yourself rather than get them through a third-party? COMEY: Because I was buried the media was camping at the end of my driveway at that point and I was actually going out of town with my wife to hide and I worried it would be like feeding seagulls at the beach. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh my god, I had forgotten he said that. So, we are led to believe that he really doesn't like the press, Comey, while he is throwing them life sustaining chum, oh, to the seagulls. And remember these greatest hits from the WikiLeaks Podesta inbox? CNBC's John Harwood sent e-mails to Hillary Clinton. Campaign chairman John Podesta shamelessly sucking up to him offering campaign advice and praising the candidate. He was with her while he was covering the campaign. Then there was Juliet Eilperin of "The Washington Post." She dropped Podesta a line to give him a heads up on a story she was going to publish, and she included a little preview, so helpful. And "The New York Times" unbiased Glenn Thrush, he put an appearance as well. He wrote to Podesta a story in progress to make sure "I'm not effing anything up." He said. Like Lanny Davis, Podesta was apparently kind of like a freelance editor for both "The Washington Post" and "The New York Times." Now, these are just a few examples of collusion that we know about only thanks to WikiLeaks. But today we learn from Congress and Mark Meadows the danger of this kind of politicization of the media and partisan story planting. He tweeted in part, "We've learned new information suggesting our suspicions are true. FBI/DOJ have previously leaked info to the press and then used those same press stories as a separate source to justify FISA" -- Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act -- and Meadows then spoke to "America's Newsroom" following closed door hearings with FBI officials. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MARK MEADOWS (R), NORTH CAROLINA: We know that some people like the Department Of Justice and FBI actually gave information to the media, then the stories were reported, then they used those reports to justify further investigation. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, it should be noted that the FBI tonight is pushing back hard on this story. A source clarified the agent testified that the FBI routinely uses media materials to corroborate their work product including FISA materials, but "never said directly that we utilize FBI leaks for FISAs." Boy, that was a carefully worded statement. Got to really parse that one. But with partisans using the media too bait prosecutors are justify bogus investigations, don't we need to be more careful and ask more questions? I think America needs journalists that we can trust. But as it stands now, we not only have to worry about the objectivity of our news sources, we have to worry about their sources as well. And that is "The Angle." Joining us now with reaction, the Washington Examiner's correspondent, Byron York, along with attorney and RNC committeewoman Harmeet Dhillon. All right, Byron, what do we need to know here? This has been a wild day. Let's start with a Lanny Davis and CNN saga, which is both stunning on his part and I think even -- we are kind of used to that from the Clintons and the Clinton spokesman surrogates, but CNN? BYRON YORK, CORRESPONDENT, WASHINGTON EXAMINER: CNN's reaction is really baffling here. Why are they -- they are sticking with the story and -- INGRAHAM: The story being? YORK: Their original story, saying that Michael Cohen was prepared to tell Robert Mueller that Donald Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting in advance. It was a huge, huge story. Now "The New York Post" had reported this. They went back, re-reported it after Davis confessed that he had not told them the truth, and told their readers what was going on. So did "The Washington Post." Now, what's going on with CNN? It seems to be that their position is a source gave us inaccurate information. We pass that onto you, the listener, but we told you what he said. Now we found out that it's not true, but we stand by the story. It doesn't make any sense. You should do with "The Post" did and what "New York" and "Washington Post" did, which is go back, re-report it, and tell the readers what happened. INGRAHAM: Harmeet, Kellyanne Conway was on with Chris Cuomo at CNN just recently and it was this unbelievable exchange where he was up on his, you know, high horse about morality and truth seeking and how hard CNN works, and I want to play this for you now because in light of what we have discovered with this Lanny Davis phony sourcing, I think it is more important than ever to watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN HOST: But I will tell you this now and I make it to you as a promise, all right? As you know, nobody works harder than we do to do this job. KELLANNE CONWAY, COUNSEL TO PRESIDENT TRUMP: Who, you? CUOMO: In this place, on my team, in this shop of CNN. We work very hard to tell people what is true. CONWAY: Any pause (ph) for humility. But Chris, let me just have a word about that. CUOMO: Nobody outworks us everyday. I'm telling you this. CONWAY: OK, but let me just have a word about that. CUOMO: All I wanted to tell you was that you need to own the truth. CONWAY: Well you sound like a scold most of the time. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Harmeet, you need to own the truth. What you think about that tonight? HARMEET DHILLON, RNC COMMITTEEWOMAN: I mean, you know, what's there to say. As a lawyer, I have to say I'm temporarily happy to know that the lawyers are not the most despicable people here in the eyes of the public I think today based on these lies and their failure to admit what went on here. You know, everybody who was a reporter -- I'm a former reporter before I became a lawyer and occasionally a source will burn you and, you know, I mean, OK. You got corrected, move on. I mean, that's what they do. Its part of their job and it happens. But to not own it I think is really showing that we all have reason to doubt the sincerity of other stories that they've had out there if this is their corporate attitude towards, you know, grossly misleading the public. I think it is really bad news for the media to black (inaudible) for CNN and, you know, I think the public expects better, the viewers expect to deserve better from them. INGRAHAM: And we wonder why the press' numbers, real numbers are in the toilet. And this comes after Sunday's "Meet The Press" where Chuck Todd -- I'm going toplay the sound byte -- laid blame on this network for causing the problems for credibility. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DAVID BRODY, CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING NETWORK: I hate to say it, I know I'm sitting on a "Meet the Press" round table, but the truth of the matter is, 62 percent think the media's bias. So in other words, if you look at the approval rating of Donald Trump versus the approval rating of the media -- CHUCK TODD, MSNBC HOST: Well, the conservative echo chamber created that environment. It's not -- no, no, no, I mean, it has been a tactic and a tool of the Roger Ailes created echo chamber. BRODY: Yes. TODD: So, let's not pretend it's not anything other than that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, I think the press' credibility has been pretty low before -- even before 20 years ago if Fox News started. YORK: Also, can I say something about the larger agenda here? I mean, Lanny Davis is doing what he's doing, he's telling CNN what he's telling them for a reason. And we seem to have the situation in which Michael Cohen, the client here, the president's former lawyer, is kind of jumping up and down and waving his hands at Robert Mueller saying, hey, notice me, notice me, I've got something. Now, we've never gotten a story out of the Robert Mueller shop that -- we've never found out a story about this that Mueller didn't know about six months ago. He's been way ahead of the reporting on this. So, we have to figure out that there is no -- that he has no particular interest in Cohen right now because he farmed his case out to prosecutors in New York. So you have to wonder, what are they doing here? I don't really know the answer, but this Lanny Davis stuff didn't just come out of nowhere. INGRAHAM: The Bruce Ohr -- you've been doing a reporting on this -- Bruce Ohr saga for months and months and months. What do we take from today's developments? YORK: Well, the big question had been with Bruce Ohr, how high and how far did knowledge about the dossier go? The Steele Trump dossier, go inside the FBI and inside the Justice Department, because we did know that after Christopher Steele was terminated as a source because he was dying to get bad information about Trump out into the public before the election, right? So we talked to the press, which was against the rules, so the FBI terminated him. And then they used Bruce Ohr as the go-between. So Ohr would go talk to Christopher Steele and then he'd go to the FBI and tell them what Steele had told him. So now, I think what they learned today was who else was who else was Ohr briefing on this? Who else was being kept up on this? Not just at the FBI but at the Obama Justice Department. INGRAHAM: Doesn't he have an obligation, Harmeet, to divulge his connection to the firm that was producing the dossier that then led to the FISA warrant and the surveilling of the Trump campaign? I mean, isn't there some basic sense at the Justice Department that you have to reveal these types of obvious conflicts? I mean, he was promoting his wife. He was promoting her firm and at the same time, added bonus, get the president, or get the candidate. DHILLON: Right. Well, he was creating demand for his wife's consulting services, so that's an obvious conflict of interest. It's also a violation of the, you know, government's rules to not disclose that. But more importantly for me as a civil libertarian, the fact that this was not disclosed to the FISA court is shocking and I think it's obstruction of justice, quite frankly. Laura, I ran the numbers as of last year, 21 warrants had been denied by the FISA court out of over 40,000. That is 99.999, OK? 99.999 are granted. INGRAHAM: That's despicable. DHILLON: So, the people at the DOJ and FBI say, hey, don't worry about this, there are safeguards in place. Not only does a high level of the FBI have to sign off but also high levels of the DOJ have to probe this and sign off. In fact, it appears that no oversight was done and they didn't ask -- didn't ask the obvious questions about this. So, I think this does go higher. We don't know (inaudible) exactly in the testimony but there are a lot of questions that need to be asked, and it isn't just what happened to Carter Page. This seems to be a systematic issue with the DOJ and the FBI and, you know, creating stories. INGRAHAM: All right. Great segment, guys. And by the way, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's private e- mail server was reportedly hacked by another foreign entity. That issue had been raised before but now it looks like we have some confirmation. It was a Chinese owned company. They inserted code that forwarded Clinton's e-mails to them in real time. That, according to "The Daily Caller" news foundation. Even worse, the FBI was reportedly warned about this by the intel community's inspector general, but did nothing in response. Here with his reaction is investigative journalist Peter Schweizer. Peter, this doesn't come as any surprise to any of us who had followed this issue. There is no security on this private e-mail server. Classified information clearly on it. What is your take away? Apparently no Russia but yes, China. PETER SCHWEIZER, INESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: Yes, Laura, this is a huge a story and I'll tell you why. Think about this for a second. If the story is true and the reporter that broke the story, Mr. Pollock, is an excellent reporter. If the story is true, it means that the only set of all of Hillary Clinton's e-mails as Secretary of State resides in Beijing, China. Because remember, she deleted 30,000 e-mails and never turned them over to the FBI. If you think about the Steele dossier, the concern that was always raised about that fake dossier was that it would lead to blackmail on Donald Trump, these e-mails would be a massive blackmail too for the Chinese against Hillary Clinton. Those 30,000 deleted e-mails were personal e-mails, they were probably very sensitive, that's why they were deleted in the first place. You have the existing set of the other 30,000. This is a huge story, and the fact that this information was discovered, then turned over to the FBI and the FBI counterintelligence office, including Mr. Peter Strzok, apparently took no interest in it, is shocking. You know, China is the big threat here. They are the rising power challenging United States. Russia is the declining power. If I were looking at an intelligence threat, the number one threat would be China. That is what this FBI director today is saying. China is the one we are worried about. But there was no interest in this apparently by Mr. Stzrok and others. It's a shocking story. INGRAHAM: Peter, I think you reported on this at the time, I believe. When this e-mail server was discovered, it also came out, I believe, that the person in charge of Hillary's security on her system was told, we might've had some intrusion in the system, and kind of blew off the concern. I had to go back and get the actual language so I get it verbatim. But that was reported. I guess through investigators, he said that there was a concern raised, but basically he was shot down when he raised that concern. Period. SCHWEIZER: Yes, that's exactly -- that's exactly right. The service that was taking care of the servers raised this with the Clinton people and it was dismissed because they didn't want attention focused on even existence of the server. So the way they tried to cope with this was pretending that the server wasn't there. This is a massive breach. And look, we were told in the 2016 campaign that Hillary Clinton was the adult. She is the professional. She's the diplomat that knows how to get things done and to do things in an orderly way. This thing was a massive failure. INGRAHAM: Yes. Well, she knows how to get things done to cover up for the Clinton's and Clinton Foundation I guess, but get things done for the American people, she got a lot done for China. And I say thank god Hillary Clinton wasn't elected given the fact that if the story is true, China has a treasure trove of information, which I don't think is just about her daughter's wedding or her grandkids or whatever or yoga class. I don't think the Chinese care about, you know, the down dog in Hillary. I think they are interested in some other issues. SCHWEIZER: Yes, you know, that is exactly right. And the bottom line here is I think if you gave any counterintelligence official a choice between being concerned about a discredited dossier or being concerned that your president of the United States has 60,000 e-mails in the possession of an enemy power and you don't even know what's in 30,000 of them. I think they would view that is a much larger counterintelligence threat than anything that is raised by the dossier. That is why this issue needs to be re-investigated and looked at. It's a counterintelligence issue and problem going forward. INGRAHAM: Yes. Jeff Sessions should convene an investigation, a real serious investigation just into this issue alone, frankly. Peter, great to have you on tonight. Thank you so much. And by the way, as I said earlier, it is election night for primary voters in Florida and Arizona. We've got live reports for you on the ground next and we'll speak with Congressman Ron DeSantis, who tonight just became the Republican nominee for Florida's governor. He just got a surprising opponent this fall, we'll tell you about that, next. INGRAHAM: Voters hit the polls in primaries across three states today but two particular states will greatly impact November's midterms. For more on what we go to now is in Florida, Ed Henry, standing by live in Miami. Ed? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Laura, great to see you. Big developments tonight here, breaking this hour. In Florida, the governor's race is going to come down to a dramatic clash between a key ally of President Trump, Ron DeSantis, against a Democrat backed socialist Bernie Sanders, Andrew Gillam. It's going to be interesting as we see the Democratic Party in swing states like this tilt even further left. On the Republican side as I mentioned, Ron DeSantis tonight easily beat the state agriculture commissioner Adam Putnam, where the deciding factor, very clearly was the coattails of the president. The president a short time ago tweeting this out there about the race "such a fantastic win for a Ron DeSantis and the people of the great state of Florida. Ron will be a fantastic governor onto November." That from the president. Now look at how dramatic, how pivotal the president' support was. In mid- June polling had Putnam beating DeSantis by 15 points, mid-June. A week later, June 22nd, the president tweeted an endorsement of DeSantis. By late July, DeSantis was up by 12 points, a 27-point swing. Now tonight here, DeSantis running to replace retiring Republican governor Rick Scott, who easily beat -- easily won the GOP nomination for a senate seat against incumbent Bill Nelson. They will face off in November. That is expected to be a very tight race. I mentioned Andrew Gillum on the Democratic side. He beat back a challenge from a more moderate candidate. He's the Tallahassee mayor. He won after key endorsements from Bernie Sanders and after an infusion of $650,000 from liberals George Soros and Tom Steyer, who's been pushing for impeachment for a long time so watch that. Meanwhile, another important Trump factor in Arizona tonight, Republican Senator Jeff Flake retired because he's at odds with the Trump agenda, unlikely that he would get re-elected, he decided to retire. He endorsed Congresswoman Martha McSally. She said she doesn't want the endorsement because she is competing with Dr. Kelli Ward and Sergio Arpaio over who is more pro-Trump. The winner of the GOP primary likely to face Congresswoman Kyrtsen Sinema in a pickup opportunity for Democrats. Interesting, we have not been able to call this race in Arizona just yet. The polls just closed a short time ago, Laura, but that race is very significant as well. INGRAHAM: Ed, Steyer and Soros, a huge infusion of money in Florida, that I understand is going to be happening in other races, including in even statewide initiatives in places like Arizona, Colorado, Ohio, and beyond. So this is just the beginning of what we are seeing. HENRY: It is, and what could be significant is in a battleground like Florida, which is typically tight, and presidential races and midterms, whether it's governor or this big senate race here. You have Andrew Gillum, who has been polled very far left because as you say, he's got Tom Steyer and George Soros money behind him. He's a Tallahassee mayor, a relatively unknown. This was a surprise win, a shocker really, and he beat back the daughter of Bob Graham, the former senator and governor, beat back a challenge from here. She's a more moderate Democrat, former congresswoman, someone who is seen sort of middle-of-the-road, might've been a tougher challenge or against Ron DeSantis. Now you got the party pulled to the left. It will be fascinating how it plays out in November. INGRAHAM: Ed, thanks so much. And joining me now is one of the men who just won one of these important races. Congressman Ron DeSantis is now the Republican nominee for Florida governor. He is here now and his first interview since his primary victory. Congressman DeSantis, congratulations. You must be feeling pretty good tonight. RON DESANTIS, FLORIDA GOP GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: Yes, Laura. And I remember you and I talking after we did the debate on Fox News, and you were like, "you are not going to be behind much longer after this." And sure enough, I mean, we really pulled ahead. We had the president come at the end of July with a huge event for us. And we really just had unstoppable momentum. And the good thing is, we are going to carry this all the way through November and post a strong victory so we can continue on Florida's path to success and make it even better. INGRAHAM: Are you surprised that Gillum wins on the Democrat side? So he'll be your challenger, endorsed by Bernie Sanders, as you just heard us talk about. Soros and Tom Steyer both pitched in a total of about $650,000. It seemed to make a difference down the home stretch. So you are going to be running against a hard left former Tallahassee mayor. DESANTIS: He is the most liberal candidate that the Democratic Party has ever nominated in the state of Florida by a country mile in a governor's race. He wants to abolish ICE. He wants a billion dollar tax increase. He wants a single-payer health care system in Florida, which would bankrupt the state. I'm trying to make Florida even better. He wants to make Florida Venezuela. But he also combines the far left ideology with managerial incompetence. As mayor of Tallahassee, his tenure has been absolutely disastrous. Tallahassee is one of, if not, the most crime-ridden city in all of Florida, year after year, rising crime, he is embroiled in a lot of corruption scandals. This is not -- the guy who can't even run the city of Tallahassee. There is no way Florida voters can entrust him with our entire state. INGRAHAM: Now, Congressman DeSantis, in your jubilation and your celebration, you may have missed that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeted out congratulations not to you, but to your challenger, Andrew Gillum, saying, "the progressive movement is transforming the country and he proved that again tonight. Gillum ran on Medicare for all, legalizing marijuana, abolish ICE and more. Thank you Florida voters! On to November. I'd wear that as a badge of honor tonight, Congressman. DESANTIS: Well look, we have people who in Florida who have fled socialist countries like Cuba and Venezuela. They don't want that imported into Florida. We also have people who flee from left-wing policies in states like New York and Connecticut and they don't want that imported into Florida. So, I think we want to keep Florida great. We want to keep it going in a good direction. And going in the direction of an Ocasio-Cortez is just untenable and it will not happen in Florida. INGRAHAM: Congressman, some of your critics will throw out this, they'll say, well, you won on Trump's coattails, but you are short on your own policy initiatives on a statewide level. How do you answer your critics? DESANTIS: That's not true at all. We have a solid vision for how to create high-paying jobs in Florida. I've been very strong on our environmental problems and solving our water crisis that we have in different parts of the state, and then only one of the few people have stood up against some of the entrenched interests. Laura, you know they were spending millions of dollars to stop me in the race and yet we did that. We've been very strong on illegal immigration, saying we need E- Verify in Florida, we can't have sanctuary cities. I've been somebody that's been a wholesale supporter of education reform, from parental choice to vocational education in the classrooms, to more civics education. So we've been talking about these key issues time and time again, and we're going to continue to do that and spread the message far and wide. INGRAHAM: Did you hear from Putnam tonight? Did he give you a call? DESANTIS: Yes. Look, he's a class guy. He worked very hard. He was a tough competitor. People say you won big, but this guy built a huge organization, he raised a boatload of money, and he ran a very tough race. He tried to knock me around a lot, that's politics. But he's supportive of where we are going. He knows we've got to keep Florida in Republican hands, and he's going to help me. So that's just how these things go. I would've supported him if he had beaten me, and you got to move forward as a team. INGRAHAM: Absolutely. And the president, I don't care what anybody -- he's very popular in Florida. The endorsement did help a lot, but he also did a great job on the on the hustings. Congressman, congratulations, thanks so much. And big tech is once again showing their true colors when it comes to conservative speech online. President Trump is now calling them out. That debate, don't miss it, ahead. INGRAHAM: It got hot today. President Trump taking aim at big tech and their alleged bias against conservatives. The president first took to Twitter singling out Google for what he calls rigged news search results against him. He even went further this afternoon. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think Google is really taking advantage of a lot of people, and I think that's a very serious thing and it's a very serious charge. I think what Google and what others are doing, if you look at what is going on at Twitter, if you look at what is going on at Facebook, they better be careful because you can't do that to people. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me now wit reaction, former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and Jason Nichols, a Democratic strategist. All right, Jason, let's start with you. What about the president's thoughts here? A lot of conservatives that I talked to think, wait a second, my impressions on Twitter are way down with no real clue as to why, search results seem to kind of speak to themselves when you put in "Trump and news," it's all negative. What do you think? JASON NICHOLS, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: First of all, when we look at the search results on Google, just like when you do a Google scholar search, what you get are the sources that received the most citations, the ones that are cited the most, the ones that actually have the most news bureaus. So this has nothing to do with politics. If he wants better stories, then create better news is what he needs to do. INGRAHAM: Like consumer confidence at an 18 year high? NICHOLS: Or 2,500 kids being traumatized by being separated, being accused in court under oath of committing a crime, there's a lot of things that he has done that actually show he doesn't have a whole lot of good news to talk about. So -- INGRAHAM: Jason, the fact that 41 percent of Americans now say the country is going in the right direction, the last year of Obama, do you know where that number was? Twenty to mid-twenties. The country sees things going the right track. They might not like everything Trump tweets, but I'm saying, and I want Corey to get in on this, because it is true that when conservatives say bias, bias, bias, Dorsey and Sergey Brin, all of these guys will come out and say this is just the way the searches go. This is the way the technology rolls. Sometimes conservatives will get the short end of the stick and sometimes liberals will, too. Everybody complains all the time, that is where we need to be. That's what they will say. COREY LEWANDOWSKI, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Yes, but look, Eric Schmidt was a supporter of the Clinton campaign, and that is perfectly fine for him to be able to do that, no one is questioning that. INGRAHAM: It doesn't mean he's biased, though, right? LEWANDOWSKI: It doesn't mean he's biased. But look, Dorsey has said that the company tends to be more left- leaning than conservative. And again, that is the way he wants to run his company. But what we have at Google specifically is they fired one of their engineers, and he said they did that because they were mistreating individuals who were conservatives there. That is what he was fired for. Now he is suing Google for his job back. INGRAHAM: Harmeet Dhillon's client. LEWANDOWSKI: And so the reason is, look, you can run a company anyway you want to, but it is such a monopoly. Between Google and Facebook, it reaches 1.8 billion people on a daily basis. These are massive numbers. And I'm not in favor of government overzealous regulation, but you can't have a company that is going after people based on their conservative thought and shadow banning them or banning them in an unfair manner. And we have to look at this because it is a problem that's only going to grow. INGRAHAM: NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch spoke about what happened to her on Twitter. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DANA LOESCH, NRA SPOKESWOMAN: We have to deal with situations where you have crazy people running amok on Twitter, and Twitter having inconsistent applications of terms of service. And that's what this comes down to. I'm simply asking for these -- for people like Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg and these individuals who own these platforms to maybe rein and their employees' biases and evenly and consistently apply and enforce terms of service. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And the thing that got her really upset is a tweet that has since been deleted about, well, if Dana Loesch has to have her children murdered before she'll understand, I guess that's what needs to happen. And the individual, Milan Legius, whatever his name is, has not been permanently banned from Twitter. I guess he was temporarily banned. That is the kind of stuff -- that is not political speech. That is -- that's terrifying actually. NICHOLS: I agree. And as somebody who comes on conservative media and gets death threats -- INGRAHAM: And we love you coming on. I adore you. NICHOLS: Thank you. INGRAHAM: May be even more than Corey. NICHOLS: Those people sending me threats right now, I want you to know I'm certainly not afraid of you and I'm not backing down. But I will tell you that I absolutely deplore that. I think that she has an argument in terms of trying to get those people to be banned from those platforms. I think that Twitter is a large universe and there are some things that Twitter sometimes misses. But the idea that they are targeting conservatives, and I think what Corey said, while it may have some validity that this person has a claim, it has nothing to do with the algorithm in which Google works. That's not what this is about. This is one guy feeling that he was discriminated against at work. LEWANDOWSKI: Laura, when you look at Twitter, and you look at what they did to Candace Owens, and she took a tweet that was written actually originally by the op-ed writer of "The New York Times" and she changed one word in that tweet, and all of a sudden her account was suspended. Not for doing anything other than literally changing one word. She changed the word from "white" to "black." It was against a conservative African- American woman who was literally reposting something that had already been posted. The original post was never considered derogatory or exculpatory or anything else for that person. But as soon as Candace Owens put that out, she immediately was notified by Twitter that her account had been suspended. I don't think that's right. INGRAHAM: Do liberals complain about getting banned? LEWANDOWSKI: I've never seen one get banned. INGRAHAM: I always say, if the shoe was on the other foot -- I try to do this to myself, too. But if the shoe were on the other foot, and it was a company this big in this powerful run by the Koch brothers or some other conservative group of people, and the left felt like their views were not - - it's an interesting conversation. Oh, this is just an algorithm. I hear that algorithm thing all the time. It doesn't seem to give me much comfort. Close it out. NICHOLS: I think that people on the left absolutely get banned from some of these -- INGRAHAM: Who? Some of the most horrible hateful things said about Ivanka Trump. I didn't see a lot of things banned. Was it Chelsea Handler, it might not be her, but they are all the same person to me. LEWANDOWSKI: And I think there is the difference between saying something vulgar and saying something that is threatening. I think what was said about Dana Loesch, that was a borderline threat and I think that she has every right to complain about that. But what we've seen, and I'm telling you as someone who gets a lot of threats, probably getting them right now, I think of that is despicable, but I think that it needs to be applied on both sides and I think usually does. INGRAHAM: Great conversation, guys. An immigration controversy that doesn't get enough attention, visa overstays in the hundreds of thousands. Details on that crisis in just a moment. And later, the Jacksonville shooter this past weekend shared some telling traits with other violent colors. A psychotherapist is here to tell us what they are. So stay there. INGRAHAM: OK, there might finally be a solution to one of the biggest problems plaguing U.S. immigration which is visa overstays. We don't talk about it enough, but in 2017, approximately 700,000 travelers to the United States overstayed their visas. That according to Homeland Security. But Congressman Steve King is introducing new legislation that would require nonimmigrants to post bonds before visiting the United States. So would this help to finally get illegal immigration, these visa overstays, under control? Joining us now with reaction is Tom Homan, the former acting direct of ICE, along with Allen Orr who is an immigration attorney. Allen? ALLEN ORR, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: So this is a problem. Not that big of a problem, -- INGRAHAM: Wait a second, 700,000 -- Allen, I adore you. You know that. But 700,000 people is not a big problem? ORR: So that is a reporting problem from the government. So right now, the way that the government relates to people who leave through land ports isn't properly recorded, and sometimes when students change their status, that isn't also properly reported. So I don't really trust the facts that are presented -- INGRAHAM: You don't trust the numbers from Homeland Security. ORR: There actually have been other reports from Robert Warren who used to work for the government and also now works for the Center for Immigration Studies that debunks most of this study, saying this is just an exaggeration and another way to push more restrictive policies down at immigration. INGRAHAM: So you don't think there really is any problem with these overstays? ORR: I think visa overstays is an issue, but I don't think bonds are a solution, because what that will do is make getting visas a class issue, so therefore people who have the money to post a bond will then get a visa, and then if they wanted will still overstay because money would not be an issue for them. INGRAHAM: Tom? TOM HOMAN: First of all, I disagree with my friend here. I think it is a huge problem. Maybe a few years ago I wouldn't trust the numbers, but the recent methodology used by CBP now is about 90 percent accurate, so you're talking about several hundred thousand dollars a year. Bond is a good idea as long as it's high enough so it's a deterrent so they are not willing just to forfeit and stay illegally. Also what I think part of this legislation should is criminalize those overstayed visa. Again, most of those who overstay a visa come to this country with a full intent of never leaving. That's just like illegal entry. So if you criminalize it, that's another consequence, another deterrence to stop this from happening. INGRAHAM: OK, so five countries with overstay rates of over 30 percent, Chad, Djibouti, Eritrea, Liberia, and the Solomon Islands. So when folks from Chad or these other countries come command, there's a pretty good chance they are not leaving. Something has to be done. We know this is what's happening, and it's like, stamp the visa, come on in, and then they don't leave. I can't blame them for not leaving. No one's really hunting them down. HOMAN: This bond issue has been a law for decades. They just need to finally implement it. We've been asking for that for years. But I also think equally to the bond, again, they need to be high enough where it's going to be more than what they could pay. INGRAHAM: How would it work? How would it work? Before they leave their country, their home country, they would post, let's say, $1,000, $5,000? What about Allen's point that this is a class issue. Now people that have no money, they can never come to the United States. Is that fair? HOMAN: What Allen is forgetting is this is a sovereign country. We have the right to decide who comes in and out of this country. We have the right to maintain a legal immigration system. I can tell you, there are hundreds and thousands every year. And you are right, the population is not a priority, hasn't been a priority. When I was acting director, I made it a priority, but we certainly don't have the resources for overstays, not when we are kicked out of jails, we've got to walk the streets looking for criminals. So by adding this bond requirements, and make it a criminal act to overstay a visa, I think you would see a drastic change in overstays. INGRAHAM: There a lot of countries, Allen, where you don't have to have a visa. They are called visa waiver countries. So you have Greece, Hungary, and Portugal have the highest overstays for countries where you don't need a visa at all. But we are categorizing, so we know who the high risk people are. Greece, we know they're having a lot of problems, Hungary, Portugal, I guess people -- everyone wants to come to United States. But we have to be able to control this. And didn't the 9/11 commission say we should do fingerprint entry and exit? Am I remembering this correctly? But we don't implement that. This is the 9/11 commission, bipartisan groups of experts who spent, what, years of studying this after 9/11? Why don't we have this? ORR: I think we do have entry-exit systems, there is just not modernized yet and they're not talking-- INGRAHAM: Modernized? After 9/11 they're still not modernized? ORR: It's the U.S. government and our systems are a little bit antiquated. But also remember reciprocity. So if we start charging bonds to people that come here, bonds are going to be charged to U.S. citizens that go to these countries, and maybe some students won't be able to make those bonds because of their classifications or just their funding won't be able to go to other countries. So that's a limiting restriction on U.S. nationals who want to travel. INGRAHAM: If we are talking about losing a few backpackers in the summer versus keeping our country, our integrity of our immigration secure and sound, I think we can lose of your backpackers. ORR: This has been an issue for years. And addressing it is the same way we address all of our other immigration problems. We modernize our immigration system. The problem is, if more people were able to stay here illegally, we wouldn't have the problem with overstays. Things like ending TPS, ending DACA is going to only to increase the amount of overstays that are here because we know -- INGRAHAM: So you really don't want to put any limits. You want no limits on people who can come to the country on visas, you really want to know limits, correct? ORR: It's not about no limits. It's about appropriate limits. If we are able to absorb 700,000 people a year or whatever the numbers may be into our society and they are able to stay and they're working at places and they're here productively, then something says -- INGRAHAM: They're not all here. We have a list of how many -- HOMAN: We are the most more welcoming country of the world. INGRAHAM: They are also committing crimes here. HOMAN: -- than all other countries combined. INGRAHAM: Guys, we are out of time. But ahead, how the media's skews facts about gun violence with the goal of ignoring some truly disturbing trends. That next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALI VELSHI, MSNBC ANCHOR: It's worth taking another look at gun laws in Florida. Florida does not require a permit to buy rifles or handguns. It doesn't require firearms to be registered, and it does not require gun owners to be licensed. Florida does not require a permit to carry a rifle. It does require a permit to carry a handgun. And if a gun is purchased in Florida, there is a three day waiting period, but this doesn't apply if you trade in your old gun for a new gun. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Those are some nifty graphics that Ali Velshi was using there. What an insightful report that would be if it wasn't totally wrong. The gun used in Sunday's horrific Jacksonville shooting was actually obtained in Maryland and the shooter purchased it legally. We've heard this type of deflection from the antigun rights people time and again. And it's often used I think to obscure some other contributing factors in these mass shootings. Mental illness, things like video games obsession, and antidepressant dependencies. Joining us now with more is Dr. Carole Lieberman, a forensic psychiatrist. Dr. Lieberman, there is no study saying that indicate if you are on antidepressants, there is necessarily a causal relationship to going out and shooting someone, but the list of the mass shooters and how many of them or taking antidepressants, just go through some of them, David Katz, the Jacksonville shooter we just mentioned, Eric Harris, Columbine, James Holmes, Aurora, Colorado, Adam Lanza, Sandy Hook, Nikolas Cruz, all of them are on some SSIR drugs, antidepressants. What should we think? DR. CAROLE LIEBERMAN, FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIST: Well, it is not really the antidepressants fault. But this isn't a gun-control problem either. It's mainly a video game control problem and access to good mental health treatment problem. With antidepressants, the problem is that instead of treating people who, if they need antidepressants, instead of seeing them every week for therapy and monitoring their antidepressants, and the dose and so on, and if they need that or something else, that isn't happening. The psychiatrists are giving people prescriptions and sending them away for months or two or three. That is the problem. It's not the antidepressants themselves. But I will tell you what the problem is. There is a pattern here with all of the school shooters. David Katz is just the latest one. And that is, first of all, there is some kind of mental illness. David Katz seems like he might be on the autism spectrum. INGRAHAM: Look at him. LIEBERMAN: Depression certainly. If you look at -- all you have to do is look at him. INGRAHAM: Look at his eyes. LIEBERMAN: His high school yearbooks. INGRAHAM: Yes, Adam Lanza's eyes. There's something dead in their eyes. The eyes are the giveaway. LIEBERMAN: Absolutely. And in David's high school yearbook, I don't know if you saw that, but it's the same eyes, the same depressed eyes. And so he was born with some kind of predilection for some kind of mental illness. But what really happened, and this is what happens in most of these families, broken families. Now for David Katz, his parents got divorced when he was around 11. They went through a 10-year divorce and custody battle. INGRAHAM: So family breakdown, doctor, family breakdown, depression. We're going to have you on radio and do this for, like, an hour because it's so big. Thank you so much. We'll be right back. INGRAHAM: That mini-discussion we just had with Dr. Lieberman is extremely important, and we are sorry we didn't have more time, but we're going to stay on this. We'll do a longer segment this week, next week, and a course on radio. So tune in tomorrow. But we do want to hear what you have to say about tonight's show, so be sure to tweet me @IngrahamAngle. And the great Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team are up next. Shannon? Load-Date: August 29, 2018 End of Document Bruce Ohr to Testify on Capitol Hill Tomorrow; Sara Carter: Whistleblower Exposes Key Player in FBI Russia Probe: "It Was All a Set- Up;" Outrageous Two-Tiered Justice System; Donald Trump in Good Shape When It Comes to Impeachment; The President Praises Senator John McCain for His Unmatched Service to This Nation Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 27, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7436 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Andy McCarthy, Mark Levin Guests: Sean Bigly, Alan Dershowitz, Andrew McCarthy, Lindsey Graham Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: I'm waiting. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Three seconds early. HANNITY: Tucker, good to see you, great show as always. Welcome to HANNITY tonight. Major breaking news, multiple fronts. In just a few hours from now, Bruce Ohr, the twice demoted corrupt DOJ official at the very center of the deep state effort to stop Donald Trump is set to testify before Congress. Coming up, we will detail how Ohr became a seedy central figure in what is the destroyed Trump movement. Plus, we have breaking news tonight, a new report from Sara Carter showing how a government whistle-blower allegedly punished after sounding the alarm on a strange million-dollar contract given to a key player in the government's effort to surveilled the Trump administration. This will blow you away. And also tonight, there is a new scary list circulating on Capitol Hill. It previews the Democrats shocking post- election agenda. None of it is to help you. We have it. We'll share it with you. Seventy-one days to go until the most important midterm election in our lifetime. It should serve as a warning to everybody. Protect what you voted for in 2016. And good news from the international front. The U.S. and Mexico have agreed to a strong new trade deal. What happened to the trade war? Meanwhile, the stock market is surging, the president's poll numbers remain steady despite last week's media historical breakdown. We'll bring you all of that, plus we will honor the life of an American patriot. He was a hero. He served his country, John McCain, with his longtime friend and colleague, Senator Lindsey Graham. Sit tight, buckle up, we start with our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: He was once the fourth highest ranking official in the Justice Department. And Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr cultivated a close relationship with former Clinton paid for foreign spy, dirty dossier author -- he doesn't even believe the dossier himself -- Christopher Steele. And allegedly without the permission or knowledge of then-boss, Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein, Ohr and Christopher Steele maintained a close relationship both before, during and after the 2016 election. Two weeks ago right on the show, we first showed you dozens of unearthed texts and emails and handwritten notes that detail specifically how Ohr and Steele worked together to spread the dirty dossier throughout some of the highest levels of our government and to also spread lies, propaganda, disinformation to you, the American people, so you would vote for one person over another before the election in 2016. This contact between Steele and Ohr continued even after the FBI caught all official ties with Christopher Steele because he was leaking to the press information he knew was not true. And, of course Bruce Ohr knew that the dossier was in fact bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign and the DNC. He knew that Steele was doing Clinton's bidding has an opposition researcher for the group Fusion GPS, with that funneled money through a law firm. He likely knew that the contents of the dossier were unverified at best. Now debunked, most of it. Now, after all, Bruce Ohr's wife, Nellie Ohr, she worked with Christopher Steele at Fusion GPS, a massive detail that Bruce Ohr failed to report to the Justice Department he worked for while some of his colleagues used the contents of Clinton's dirty dossier as the basis for criminal investigations and, of course, lying in Pfizer court applications. Now, the Ohr-Steele relationship was so seedy that in 2017, Christopher Steele expressed his concern over James Comey's upcoming testimony writing to Bruce Ohr, hey, just wondering if you had any news. Obviously, we are a bit apprehensive given scheduled appearance at Congress on Monday. That would be Comey's, hoping that important firewalls, plural, will hold. Thanks. Many thanks. Now, meanwhile, according to Bruce Ohr's handwritten memos, Christopher Steele was, quote, very concerned about the combing hearing and afraid they will be exposed. Other communications show Steele's efforts to reach the special counsel investigation, including Robert Mueller. In November of 2017, Ohr wrote to Steele, quote, I have passed on the questions apparently to the special counsel Mueller but haven't gotten an answer yet. So, Ohr was actually feeding Steele Russian lies to Bob Mueller and his Democratic donor witch hunters. And Steele later wrote back, quote, I'm presuming you've heard nothing back from your SC, special counsel, colleagues on the issues you have kindly put forward in front of me. To say this is a disappointment is an understatement. So, tomorrow is the big day. You the American people finally deserve answers and during this hearing before Congress, Ohr will appear before the House Oversight and House Government Reform and Oversight Committees. It is important we get answers. These are just a few of the questions. What did Steele mean when he said, quote, hoping important firewalls will hold? What are those firewalls? Why was Steele worried about, quote, being exposed? Who in the DOJ knew that Steele was feeding information to Ohr? Was Bruce Ohr really working on the Russia probe without the Deputy Attorney General Rob Rosenstein's permission or knowledge? Remember, Rosenstein signed off on the fourth FISA warrant. We knew by then the bulk of the information was the Clinton bought and paid for phony dossier. Who in the special counsel investigation did Ohr pass along Steele's information to? And this is important. Did any FISA applications contain information from Ohr's work with Christopher Steele? Was he working hand and hand with his wife employer Fusion GPS? And what role did Nellie Ohr play in this phony dossier? These questions are just a tip of the iceberg. New article in "The Federalist" outlined several important topics that also must be addressed. And no, this has nothing to do with taxi medallions or bank loans or tax returns but we'll update you on this real case of collusion tomorrow after the hearing. Now, also tonight, we have another breaking report that exposes potential corruption again at the highest levels of your government. According to Sara Carter, this is an interesting story, a defense analyst named Adam Lovinger was targeted and stripped of his security clearance, gone. It why? Because he exposed what is a bizarre and strange million-dollar contract between the Department of Defense and Stefan Halper? Now, who is Stefan Halper? You might remember, Halper was the guy that the FBI used as the undercover, important, otherwise known as spy against the Trump campaign in the lead up to the 2016 election. It gets deeper and according to Sara Carter, and she will join us in a minute, Lovinger raised concerns over Helper's diplomatic meetings with foreigners -- by the way, including Russians, something not allowed in his role as a contractor. We did reach out to Halper, the Department of Defense tonight. They haven't responded, shocking. Now, we'll talk to Sara Carter and Lovinger's attorney, Sean Bigley. They'll join us with more on this developing story. But, first, we are currently tracking another huge developing story that could spell very bad news for Robert Mueller tonight. A federal court case stemming from a decades-old murder. They're actually set to decide whether or not information from grand jury investigations can actually be released to the public. Now, if the court finds that such information cannot be made public, that would mean Robert Mueller could be muzzled and prevented from releasing a report at the conclusion of his witch hunt when he writes the stupid report. It usually grand jury information is kept secret. And remember, only prosecutors get to make the case to a grand jury. In other words, there is no defense case before a grand jury. In America, you can indict a ham sandwich. I'm going to keep you posted on this case, as arguments are set to begin next month. And meanwhile, we have another setback for anyone breathlessly hoping and praying for Mueller to find the Trump- Russia collusion that we have not heard to this point. The attorney for Michael Cohen, our old friend Lanny Davis, well, he's now backpedaling on his claim that Donald Trump knew about the now infamous 2016 Trump tower meeting. This is a big deal. And Davis is now saying that he should have been clear and now he cannot confirm that information that he had once confirmed that CNN fake news reported. This raises another important question. Is Michael Cohen really being served well in this case by his attorney, lifelong Clinton ally, politically motivated against the president? Remember, as Lanny Davis has said, his client would never accept a pardon from President Trump. OK, he'd rather serve five years in prison? That really was a bad thing for any attorney to say. We will have more on that in a moment. But, first, we're going to turn to the midterm election. Seventy-one days from tonight, you will be tuned in, you will be watching election results. You will decide, the power is in your hands, the future of this country. For months, we have been warning you about the Democratic post-election agenda. If they take back the House, they are coming for -- they want their -- they call it crumbs, the tax cut, but they still want the crumbs back. They said they will rescind President Trump's tax cuts. We know, and I've been saying forever their number one goal, they won't tell you, but they want to impeach this president. How does Obamacare work out for you? Did you get to keep your Dr. Plan and pay less? They want to keep Obamacare. They want to block Kavanaugh from the U.S. Supreme Court. They want open borders. They want to abolish ICE. They want to kill off the deep state investigations and abuse of power that we have been exposing every night on the show. And according to a list first obtained by Axios, congressional Republicans are now previewing a series of what will be investigations the Democrats will likely launch if they regain power in the House. By the way, if you look at the list, it's interesting. That list, nothing is about making life better for you, your family, the forgotten men and women in this country. None of it, and some are calling it a hell list for President Trump and his allies should they take back power and 71 days. Look at the list. It includes inquiries into the president's tax returns, family businesses, the president's dealings with Russia, James Comey's firing -- oh, Rob Rosenstein recommended it -- Stormy Daniels, the travel ban, Jared Kushner, Ivanka, ethic compliance, hurricane response in Puerto Rico and so much more. Look, that -- keep that list rolling. Let this be a clear warning: if you don't vote in 71 days, if you don't understand what's at stake and Republicans lose the House, I'm telling you right now, this is not my first rodeo. We were on this show, this network when we launched in October 1996, I promise you that this will all happen. The Trump agenda will be stalled, anti-Trump investigations will feed into the media frenzy that we now see ratcheting up every day. That's why I keep telling you. it's the most important midterm elections in your lifetime. If you voted for Donald Trump, you like the results of Donald Trump, then you better pay attention to this November, 71 days away because that's what they want to do, and more. Without a doubt, the Trump agenda is working. Just today, the president announced a strong new trade deal with Mexico. This is a win for this country. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We just signed a trade agreement with Mexico and it's a terrific agreement for everybody. It's been in the works for a long time. It's an agreement that a lot of people said couldn't be done, and we did something, and it was very special. Great for our farmers, our workers. And our stock market just broke 26,000 for the first time ever in history. So, today, we have the highest stock price we've ever had. And we are happy about that. I said that was going to happen and it's happened. And everything I said is going to happen, it ends up happening. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And guess what? Following that announcement, the Nasdaq jumped to a record high. As our already surging economy continues to strengthen. Good day on the Dow as well. Record low on employment rates across the board. Let's see, 14 states record low unemployment for Hispanic Americans, African-Americans, Asian- Americans, women in the workforce. Youth unemployment is now at, what, 48 year low, consumer confidence at an all-time high. More jobs than we have people on unemployment available. A key reason why the president's approval rating in spite of all of these vicious, vile, day by day predictable media attacks remain steady and strong and subsequent impeachment obsession even after Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort last week. All right. We have a lot to get to tonight. Joining us now, the author of "The New York Times" three weeks in a row bestseller, "The Russian Hoax", number one, "The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett. And also, FOX News investigative reporter, contributor Sara Carter. And security clearance defense attorney Sean Bigley is with us. Sarah, let's start with your breaking news. It gets complicated but at the heart of it, this is a really big case because Mr. Adam Lovinger, represented by Sean who's with us, he basically was able to expose and now you have seen the documents that say? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, he was basically able to expose Stefan Halper. And remember, Stefan Halper was a professor emeritus at Cambridge who was the central player in the FBI's Cross Hire hurricane investigation into President Donald Trump. And he was the man "The Washington Post" and "The New York Times" when they published their stories on Crossfire Hurricane, he was the person they didn't want to out, the name that nobody wanted to reveal out of fear, based on intelligence community warnings, Sean, that people could either be killed or that his life would be in danger if his name goes public. Well, eventually, his name did go public and that was Stefan Halper, and what we discovered was that he was actually involved in every aspect of the FBI's investigation. HANNITY: Hold on that right there. I want to explain why Halper's important. This is very -- so we did have the case of the FISA warrant, but then we have the case of the spies in the Trump campaign. CARTER: Yes. HANNITY: And Stefan Halper -- explain. CARTER: Yes, and Stefan Halper was, prior to them taking on and asking the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for that FISA warrant on Carter Page, he actually became acquainted with Page in 2016. He was approached. Page was invited to one of his Cambridge intelligence seminars and that's where Page befriended Halper. And Halper and him became very close, and, in fact, Halper was continually asking Carter Page questions, asking him about his thoughts on Russia, asking him about this and that, and that later on in September of -- HANNITY: Did he -- did the rush, did the spying the Trump campaign have connections to Russia? CARTER: Well, this is what's even more interesting. Stefan Halper has direct ties to Russian intelligence because at his Cambridge intelligence seminars, twice, he invited the head, the former head of Russian intelligence -- HANNITY: Slow down. He invited the Russians to the seminars. He's a spy on the Trump campaign. CARTER: Absolutely. HANNITY: And then Sean's client Adam Lovinger finds this information. CARTER: Well, accidentally stumbled on it. He was doing his job at the Pentagon. He was at net assessment. Hew was going through contracts and he realized, hey, here's this professor who is basically getting over a million dollars in contracts to write reports? I don't understand what's going on here. HANNITY: Two thousand dollars a page the report said. CARTER: That's absolutely true. HANNITY: That's a lot of money. Good work if you can get it. CARTER: Yes, and nobody get that money, Sean. That's almost impossible. I mean, this is something that -- HANNITY: So, Stefan Halper is now that also -- he has all those Russian contacts. CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: He is getting paid $2,000 a page. He's working with the former CIA director of Obama, Hayden, correct? CARTER: Oh, yes, we don't know that for sure. What we do know is that he was working with the Pentagon. There were direct links with high-level officials at the Pentagon and that he was going overseas, he was making a lot of money, and he was conducting what appeared to be diplomatic relations, which is forbidden under federal law when you are a contractor at the Pentagon. This isn't something that's part of your normal work routine. But let me bring up something really quickly before you go to Sean. He is also directly connected, of course, to George Papadopoulos, and reached out to George Papadopoulos in September 2016, where he asked him, would you write a report for me? I will pay you $3,000. Come to London, let's talk. And then even more interestingly enough. HANNITY: Well, that sounds like poor Papadopoulos was set up. CARTER: Yes, that's exactly what Simona Papadopoulos, George Papadopoulos' wife, has said over and over again in interviews saying that George was basically set up by Stefan Halper and another professor by the name of Joseph Mifsud. HANNITY: Part two is Carter Page in the story. CARTER: Yes. So, Carter Page, who develops a very close relationship with Stefan Halper, continues to email him and according to the sources that we've spoken with and according to the reports written in "The Washington Post" and "The New York Times," Stefan Halper was reporting back to the FBI information. But what -- really quick, he also goes back to Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. HANNITY: Oh my gosh. CARTER: And I don't want people to forget about this. In 2014, when Flynn was at one of these seminars and attended a dinner one night, it was Stefan Halper who not only invited Flynn but also invited a Russian woman, Lokova (ph), I hope I'm saying her name correctly, and it was Stefan Halper who allegedly spread the rumor, the disinformation campaigns that apparently Flynn had some kind of bizarre contact with her. HANNITY: So, wait a minute, let me bring in Sean. Your client Adam Lovinger stumbles across this information. And, by the way, Sara, I know you've seen it. But, Sean, I know you've seen it. And that Stefan Halper is the nexus that drags in Papadopoulos, Carter Page and General Flynn, and he's a spy -- literally a spy within the Trump campaign? SEAN BIGLEY, SECURITY CLEARANCE DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Sean, this is unbelievable. It's an absolute bombshell and I will tell you this, what we have essentially learned is that Stefan Halper invited the Trump campaign officials into the lion's den. This was not a set of organic meetings. This was not Halper reporting things that he's witnessed that he thought were concerning as he has put out there in the media. HANNITY: Documentary evidence? BIGLEY: We had an absolute ironclad document trail that shows that invited the Russians, Halper foisted the Russians on the Trump officials -- HANNITY: So, the spies that's looking for the Russians as the one bringing the Russians into the campaign and surrounding all the people that have now gotten in legal trouble with Russians? The guy that the government put there? Is that a fair statement? BIGLEY: This is a classic -- absolutely, Sean. This is a classic espionage tactic. You accuse the other side of doing what you are in fact doing and that is the entire genesis of the Mueller investigation. HANNITY: Did anybody like Jeff Sessions or anybody ask for this material? BIGLEY: This is breaking, this is today. This is brand-new bombshell material. HANNITY: Oh, maybe they can watch our show and learn something. We found a lot of Russian connections. Hillary paying for Russian lies, Russian lies being spread as propaganda to the American people. Russian lies being used for FISA warrants. There's a lot of Russia here that have nothing to do with bank loan applications, tax returns or taxi medallions. Gregg Jarrett, let's go to you. CARTER: But they appear to have -- but they appear to have everything to do with the other side, Sean. HANNITY: That's correct. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: There's no question. There was a conspiracy afoot here and that was to use people to insinuate themselves into the Trump campaign as spies and in order to set up individuals as scapegoats essentially for the Trump Russia collusion probe, you know? And the FBI is all in on this. They are paying for this. HANNITY: Is this the insurance policy? Is this where the firewall is holding, we don't want to be exposed, does that all come together? JARRETT: Papadopoulos bar talk was never the precipitous moment for triggering the campaign, the election. It was the dossier and the dossier was fabricated by a British spy being paid for by Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. Where is Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein investigating that, which is clearly illegal? HANNITY: And these -- Sean Bigley, these documents will prove as such, correct? BIGLEY: Absolutely. Let me tell you briefly what the show. Number one, Stefan Halper co-lead his series of seminars with a noted Putin apologist who spent a decade at the state academy in Russia. Number two, Stefan Halper co-taught these seminars in Cambridge University with the former head of Russian intelligence. And number three and perhaps most damning, Stefan Halper accepted funds for a front company for the Russian intelligence service, or what MI6 believes to be a front company for the Russian intelligence service -- HANNITY: And he was the spy that was used of trying -- everything has boomerangs. I know mike I said this year is the year of the boomerang. I hope your client -- this is going to be interesting. Let's see if -- let's see if Robert Mueller pays little attention to something Russia. You know, instead of bot companies and people who's never going to get in a courtroom, maybe he can pay attention now if he cares about truth and real Russia collusion. All right. We'll follow the story. Thank you all for being with us. Congrats on the book, Gregg. Sarah great report, SaraACarter.com, Hannity.com if you want to read the whole report. By the way, it's long but it's worth a read. When we come back, demoted DOJ official Bruce Ohr is going to go face-to- face with lawmakers tomorrow behind closed doors. Catherine Herridge has a full report from Washington , and Alan Dershowitz, Andy McCarthy as we continue, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Tomorrow, disgraced DOJ official Bruce Ohr will testify on Capitol Hill behind closed doors. FOX News chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge has a full report from Washington -- Catherine. CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CHIEF INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: Sean, Tuesday's interview behind closed doors will focus on Ohr's decision to share information with the FBI from the former British spy Christopher Steele, after Steele was fired by the bureau as a source. Investigators tell FOX News they also question where the FBI knew about Steele's hatred of candidate Trump, as well as his briefings to the media about the Trump dossier. And if that's true, why the bureau still used Steele's unverified research to secure a surveillance warrant on a Trump campaign aide? Russia was not part of Ohr's official Justice Department job. Investigators are also drilling down on Ohr and Steele's relationship with Glenn Simpson, whose firm Fusion GPS was paid by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Simpson employed Ohr's wife. Today, a House Republican explained their strategy and leveled serious allegations. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. DARRELL ISSA (R-CA), HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE: Well, we want him to confirm what we already know from hard evidence, that he and his wife were part of a conspiracy to, in fact, create this narrative of involvement and wrongdoing by the president relative to the Russians. But we a lot of evidence. Now, the question is, can we get him to confirm the evidence or will he deny the truth right before us in writing? (END VIDEO CLIP) HERRIDGE: 2017 text messages obtained by FOX suggest Steele also asked Ohr to be his go-between with a special counsel Robert Mueller's team. A spokesperson declined to comment and the DOJ had nothing to add -- Sean. HANNITY: All right. Catherine, thank you. And joining us now with reaction, author of another bestseller, "The Case Against Impeaching Donald Trump", Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz, and FOX News contributor Andy McCarthy. You know, I watched you out there, professor and Andy, I watched you both last week and it was great hysteria as the Manafort verdict came in and Michael Cohen's plea deal came in and great speculation. Lanny Davis has backed off a lot of his comments, which is pretty fascinating. And, Professor Dershowitz, you kept saying this isn't even jaywalking as it relates to the president. Can you explain to America's dumb pundit lawyer class why you are right and they are so wrong? ALAN DERSHOWITZ, HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR: Well, first, I completely understand why people are so anxious to try to find crimes against Trump, but you just can't make it up. You have to look at the rule of law. And if you look at the statute, the statute says that a candidate can contribute any amount of money he wants into his own campaign, and President Trump has said the money came from him personally. Also, there's an obligation to report, but the reporting obligation is on the treasurer of the campaign, not the candidate himself. So, unless new evidence develops, I see no indication of any criminal violation of any of the campaign finance statutes. If there are any, let's hear, where's the beef? Where's the statute? Show me. Point to me where the violation occurs. I know why people hope there is a violation, but hope can't substitute for reality. HANNITY: Andy, I would love for you to weigh in on this. You come at this from a different point of view. Twenty years in the Southern District of New York, your track record is impeccable. I actually got to interview John Sales (ph), a former colleague of yours. He's brilliant. He is on your page. Rudy is obviously on your page. Where are the crimes here, you know, where? ANDREW MCCARTHY, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: Well, Sean, I think in the context particularly of the president, what is relevant here, especially because what we are talking about given the Justice Department's guidance is impeachment, not indictment. The history of this set of statutes that Professor Dershowitz just referred to is that the two government agencies that are primarily responsible for enforcing them have come to contradictory conclusions about what a crime is. So you have in the John Edwards' case back about five or six years ago, you had the federal election commission saying that these kinds of payments were not in kind political contributions. And then, the Justice Department turns around and indicts him on six felony counts, a case that -- the judge lets it go to the jury, but it ends in disaster for the Justice Department, one acquitted count and five hung jury counts. And my only point is if the two agencies of government that are primarily responsible for enforcement can't even agree on what a crime is, how can you conceivably have a high crime? HANNITY: I don't -- I've known Lanny for a lot of years. I like Lanny. I know Lanny loves the Clintons. He and I agree to disagree, but he said things that he had to back off of, you know, that were really important. My client says that the president knew about the infamous meeting at Trump Tower. And the words in the plea agreement, Professor Dershowitz, with Michael Cohen at the direction of the president, that's all contradicted by even Michael Cohen's testimony before Congressional committees, so... DERSHOWITZ: But it's so confusing. It's so confusing because if it was at the direction of the president and the president agreed to pay it back from his own money, then it's a perfectly lawful, legitimate aspect of this. So I don't get why the Justice Department felt the need to add at the direction of the president. It -- put them in a Catch-22. If it is at the direction of the president, then it's a campaign contribution from the president, which is perfectly lawful. All that was required was reporting and the reporting would have happened after the election. So no harm, no foul here. I just don't get it. I've been teaching criminal law for over 50 years and you just have to show me where the crime is and I agree with my distinguished colleague that if you get two different agencies of the government disagreeing, you can't have criminal action. And Thomas Jefferson once said a criminal statute must be so clear that the average person can understand it while running. I can't even understand the statutes while sitting. How can you make them the basis for criminal charge or an impeachable offense? HANNITY: Last word, Andy. MCCARTHY: Yeah, Sean. I would just add to that, Sean, that what I'm disappointed about is the government and the Southern District of New York in particular usually goes out of its way to avoid naming an accused person until they are actually ready to put their money where their mouth is and formally accuse them on the circumstances where they have all the due process protections that pertain to that. To go out of your way to name someone under the circumstances, it's just something I don't understand why they would want to go out-of-bounds like that. DERSHOWITZ: You know, I complained when they did that to Richard Nixon years and years ago. You don't name people as unindicted coconspirators and give them no opportunity to respond in the court of law. HANNITY: They never claimed Michael Cohen was part of the conspiracy. They didn't claim that. DERSHOWITZ: It would be very hard to find a conspiracy. It would be a conspiracy not to register. That doesn't seem like much of a conspiracy, it's a real stretch. HANNITY: Right. Good to see you both. Thank you. When we come back, the great one, Mark Levin, weighs in on this and more, straight ahead. HANNITY: Joining us now with more on tonight's breaking news, he is the host of CRTV's Levin TV, the host of Life, Liberty, and Levin right here Sunday night, the number one show in it's time slot on the Fox News channel. We call him the great one, Mark Levin. Mark, let's start with the president the hysteria that came out last week and the so- called experts have been so wrong the entire time. MARK LEVIN, FOX NEWS HOST: Well, the president is actually in great shape when it comes to the law and when it comes to impeachment. On impeachment, all we have to do is vote and make sure the Democrats don't win. And then he won't be impeached. There's an idea. Anyway, that's the headline, though. The president is in very good shape. You cannot impeach a president on events that occurred before he was president. I don't know people are aware of this, the president -- Vice- President Collier case in 1873, judges different, presidents, vice president on events that occurred before hand. So even if they load up their phony list, we have to keep that in mind read. Also, there is serious doubt on whether Mr. Mueller in his report can use grand jury information that goes public. Remember, grand juries are secret. Grand jury information is supposed to be a secret. There's a big case going on now the Washington, D.C., relating to this. Congress passed the statute to keep this information secret because when an individual is in front of a grand jury, they don't have a lawyer. The other side can't be told. There's no counter to what the government is doing. So they're going to have a big hurdle I think to get over to even allow the information that's in front of a grand jury to get to the American people by way of Mr. Rosenstein because that is a miscarriage of justice. What else? Obstruction of justice. I'm going through what they've been arguing. The president cannot obstruct justice for firing a subordinate, period. Now, what about this new thing they've come up, conspiracy to defraud an election? I would like to know, this conspiracy, exactly who to the president conspire with? Who is it? Had they been charged, had they've been prosecuted, who did the president conspire with? He didn't conspire with anybody because there is no such thing. And of course, the big enchilada, which is a sitting president cannot be indicted, which I've been saying for 18 months, which makes all of this entirely bogus. Now, let's move to the Southern District in New York. They are pursuing campaign violations that did not occur. While I agree with aspects of what Professor Dershowitz said, I disagree with this. These are not crimes, period. Intent, who paid whom, doesn't matter. These are events that are not defined as campaign violations, but I would ask the Southern District of New York, which candidates have you or any other U.S. attorney prosecuted for violating these laws when they used private funds or corporate funds to settle a private legal matter? Can you give me one? Can you name one, two, three, four? If this is the law, I assume you've used it on a whole bunch of other people. Where is the case law? Because I don't see that. Now, the one area that bugs me is the New York attorney general, who was a hack, and the D.A. in Manhattan, who is another hack. These are elected Democrats. So they can look at these areas, too. The federal immunity on indictment doesn't necessarily apply to them. If I were the president, I would look across the United States, and I would hire the five or six toughest, smartest, most aggressive litigators in the country. I would pull them together around my table and I would say, I want you to do everything you can to go on the offensive against these political prosecutors. I don't care if you have to drag out their cases. I don't care how many motions you have to file. It's time to go on offense against these political phony prosecutors in the state of New York and in Manhattan. Now, if you don't mind, Sean, I would like to briefly talk about this Bruce Ohr because I think he is very, very key. HANNITY: I don't have to ask any questions, you are doing great on your own. LEVIN: Well, thank you. I view this guy Bruce Ohr as kind of a mole to be perfectly honest with you. He's on the staff of the Deputy Attorney General of the United States, first, Sally Yates and then Rod Rosenstein. There's a ton of questions this man needs to be asked because he seems to be the center of the wheel. And that is, what role or roles did he play in the production of this Dossier, his relationship with Fusion GPS where his wife worked, his relationship with Christopher Steele, the full extent of it is what we need to know because he clearly was a back channel for opposition research in the United States' Department of Justice. I want people to remember the FBI director is gone. He's a leaker, he was fired. The deputy FBI director is gone, he is under criminal investigation. Mr. Strzok, who was head of counter intelligence investigations, he was fired. Have you ever see anything like this before? Now, the deputy attorney general's office, you have a guy who was colluding with the former British spy, a foreigner to affect our election, whose wife just happens to be working for the opposition research outfit funded by Hillary Clinton and the DNC. Stick with me because it's very simple. And they are the ones who colluded with Russia. So the question is not only what was his role, who did he communicate with at the FBI, who did he communicate with at the Department of Justice, what did he tell Sally Yates, what did he tell Rod Rosenstein? Did he talk to Brandon (ph), did he talk to Clapper, did he talk to the White House? Every single person he talked, what media outlets did he potentially speak to? We need to know that, too. This is all very, very important. And any members of Congress that he talked to? Did he talk to Reid (ph), did he talk to Adam Schiff? Did he talk to any of these people? And who provided what information to whom on this Dossier? Was he behind the scenes prodding along to make sure the application was written the way they wanted it to write to go to the FISA court? What we will be watching tomorrow is the Democrat Party. The Democrat party is the obstruction party, almost anarchist. They do not care if the Department of Justice was lawless. They do not care that the senior level of the FBI wiped itself out. They've been defending them, they've been special leaders for lawlessness. That's the question. HANNITY: All right, great one, Mark Levin, thank you. Mark's show, Life, Liberty, and Levine, Sunday night, number one in cable, right here 10:00 p.m. on the Fox News Channel. When we come back, we will check in with Lindsey Graham, one of John McCain's best friends, straight ahead. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Our hearts and prayers are going to the family of Senator John McCain. There's going to be a lot of activity over the next number of days and we very much appreciate everything that Senator McCain has done for our country. So, thank you very much. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The president earlier tonight at the Evangelical Leadership Dinner at the White House praising Senator John McCain for his unmatched service to this nation, after we learned this week and of course that Senator McCain, he's been on this program many times, agreeing and disagreeing quite often actually. And his colleague, probably his closest friend of the Senate, Senator Lindsey Graham tweeted, quote, America and freedom have lost one of her greatest champions and I've lost one of my dearest friends and a mentor. Senator Graham, I'm sorry about your loss, I really am. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Thanks for what you said to me privately and what you said publicly. It means a lot to Cindy and the kids and the family to hear all these nice things said about John. So thank you. HANNITY: Well, you know what, I also tweeted -- you and I have fights, political fights. And I had them with Senator McCain, but I am proud I got to know his wife, Cindy, who is lovely, and Meghan. GRAHAM: Yeah. HANNITY: Former colleague, radio and TV. GRAHAM: You traveled everywhere with us. HANNITY: I did. And I'm proud I fought for him because he was the better choice by far. GRAHAM: Amen. HANNITY: And what he did in Vietnam five years in a POW camp, bones broken. And I mean, how could you -- I know that he didn't like the president. They fought, so what? GRAHAM: I wish we had more time, but it is what it is. They fought and so we will look forward. We will give him the send-off he deserves. HANNITY: Yes. GRAHAM: I have cried a lot and I am going to try to get over it. And I will speak tomorrow in the Senate. His desk is right by mine, and I hope I don't crack up. And I'm going to tell people about learning from John, and it was a lot. Perfect is not John McCain. HANNITY: I remember when he came back. Do you remember what he said? GRAHAM: He was good, decent, and honorable. HANNITY: Don't listen to those guys on TV or talk radio. They can go straight to hell. I was like, OK, he didn't mind listening to me in 2008 when I was helping him. But he was a hero. GRAHAM: Yes, Sir, he was. Well, he loved his country. If I had to pick one person in the entire country to explain America to a foreigner, it would be John. HANNITY: Yeah. GRAHAM: I mean, he had a romantic view of the nation, it never died. He loved America, willing to die for it, and he could be tough on his colleagues, but the fact that everybody... HANNITY: You know that's an understatement. GRAHAM: Oh, my God. The stories we could tell, which we won't. He could forgive, too. HANNITY: You know, you actually said something. I'm going to bring this up. You said it to me privately, I hope you don't mind. You said in many ways the president and him are alike. I don't know what you meant by that. GRAHAM: Pretty hard-edged guys. At the end of the day... HANNITY: He has put out a statement earlier. He was complaining of I guess somebody had changed the flag at half-staff, but they put it back. GRAHAM: John Kelly. I don't know if John is listening. He called right after John passed, to the family. The president tells General Kelly whatever they need to have. We're going to look for it, we're going to talk about what does it mean for the country for John to have been in the Senate, what does it mean for us to have been around him, what can we do to build on this legacy? Where can I help in the process? HANNITY: Do you notice what I've noticed? All these people that said I supported John McCain in 08. I went to work for John McCain in 08. I wanted him to win, but all these people that are like he was the greatest -- I can go verse and chapter how vicious they were to him. Is it better to be nicer in life? Oh like Ronald Reagan, they trashed him. And he passes on, oh, one of the greatest presidents. That's not what you said back then. GRAHAM: Do know what John would say? Take it where I can get it. This is the same guy in 2008 who was mentally deranged. HANNITY: Yeah. GRAHAM: The same guy in 2008 who ran a campaign like George Wallace, but you know what, the fact that people say good things about him now, I appreciate, but the family appreciates it. He's got a family. He's got a son coming back from Afghanistan, he's got a son who has been in Iraq and Afghanistan, Meghan, they all appreciate this. HANNITY: Let me ask you, you said the president has a right to his own attorney general. GRAHAM: Yeah. HANNITY: I agree with you. What has happened to Jeff Sessions? GRAHAM: Oh, well, I like Jeff, but it ain't working. If they can't repair this relationship, and I don't see that happening, the president deserves an attorney general that he feels confident in, that can lead the Department of Justice in a more effective way. HANNITY: Is it wrong that Hillary got away with the email stuff? Is it wrong that FISA courts were lied to? Is it wrong that Russian lies were paid for and disseminated to the American people? And where is Mueller? GRAHAM: The Hillary Clinton investigation was corrupt to its core. They liked her, hated Trump. The initial Russia investigation was corrupt to its core. The same guy in charge of clearing her was the same guy who started the Russia investigation, Peter Strzok. I don't know why we have a special counsel. I can't explain that to people in South Carolina. HANNITY: FISA courts, would you ever lie to a judge? Would you delete subpoenaed emails? GRAHAM: I would tell the judge hey, oh, by the way, this guy is on the payroll of the Democratic Party, you ought to consider that. The bottom- line is it was corrupt and we need to fix it so we don't do it again. HANNITY: But we're going after people for taxes and loan applications, not Russia. GRAHAM: The bottom-line is if the president did not collude with the Russians, and I do not believe he did, this is just going to be a lot of noise. HANNITY: Senator, I'm sorry. I know how close you were. Our thoughts and prayers to Cindy, Meghan, and the entire McCain family. GRAHAM: I am better off for having known how he loved his country and we will be talking a lot about what he did and how there is a little John McCain in all of us. If we can bring that out, the country would be a good spot. HANNITY: Thank you, Senator. More Hannity after this. HANNITY: So during an interview yesterday, Tiger Woods was asked about his relationship with President Trump. Here's what he said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TIGER WOODS, AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL GOLFER: I've known Donald for a number of years. We played golf together, and you know, we've had dinner together. And so, yeah, Donald -- presidency, obviously, during his presidency. He's the president of United States. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He's the president of United States, respect the office. Something the media might want to learn from. By the way, Tiger, you are so phenomenal in this comeback. It is one of the most exciting things in sports and we look forward to you winning your next championship. All right. That's all the time we have left this evening. Let not your heart be troubled. We are not the destroy-Trump media. We don't make up fake news. There is she is. She has been missing in action. Ingraham is back. Where did you go? Where were you? Load-Date: August 28, 2018 End of Document President Trump Announces Incredible New Trade Deal Between Mexico and the United States Leaving Out Canada to Replace NAFTA; Laura Ingraham's One-on-One Interview with Larry Kudlow on the New Trade Deal with Mexico; Impeachment Calls from the Democrats and Media Ramping Up the Narrative; Media Criticism of President Trump in Wake of John McCain's Death; Tiger Woods Draws Criticism for Comments on President Trump; Vatican Official Calls on Pope Francis to Resign Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST August 27, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8290 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Monica Crowley, Ari Fleischer, Juan Williams, Jason Whitlock Guests: Luis Videgaray, Larry Kudlow, Dan Bongino, Chris Hahn, Raymond Arroyo Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, that is all the time we have left this evening. Let not your heart be troubled. We are not the destroy-Trump media. We don't make up fake news. There she is. She has been missing in action. Ingraham is back. Where did you go? Where were you? How come you take of more than I do? That's unfair. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: I'm just really special and, you know, they apparently -- HANNITY: I agree. I'm not debating that. INGRAHAM: They chain you -- yes, they chain you to the desk, Hannity. And I understand that you golf with Tiger Woods, have you not? HANNITY: No, I've never golfed with Tiger Woods. I wouldn't dare -- I'm fixing my ties -- I wouldn't dare get on a golf course with Tiger Woods. Are you kidding? INGRAHAM: You played tennis with Federer. I mean, you always -- HANNITY: No, but I did line judge Novak Djokovic and Noah Rubin. INGRAHAM: OK. Were you with a ball boy for the Jimmy Connors -- the big Jimmy Connors-Bjorg match? HANNITY: How did you know? I was right there. You can see it in the video when Connors will go like this. INGRAHAM: You always had to say like you had this blue-collar background but if you go to all the Wimbledon, you know, the training videos, you see Hannity with a little short -- white shorts. That's embarrassing. HANNITY: I've never made (inaudible) in Europe. I didn't have any money most of my life so, just saying. INGRAHAM: Oh, god. Are we going to play this game? Who was more poor? HANNITY: It's not a game. It's a -- I've lived -- take over your shift (ph). You've been missing a week. People want to hear from you. INGRAHAM: I have a question. How many bathrooms did you have in your house growing up? HANNITY: One and three older sisters. You know what that is? INGRAHAM: I did, too. I had one. HANNITY: It's called hell on earth. INGRAHAM: All right. I have three older brothers and we had six people, I have one bathroom. OK, that's it. We can't debate this anymore. All right, Hannity. Thanks so much. Good evening, I'm Laura Ingraham, this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington, D.C. It is great to be back on a historic night despite the constant noise from the naysayers, another promise kept. The president striking a stunning trade deal with Mexico. In moments, we speak exclusively to White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow and the Mexican foreign minister who helped make it happen. And the Democrats continue to indulge in impeachment fantasy, of course they do. But do they do so at their own expense? Their own peril? Some shocking evidence ahead. Plus, the death of an American hero being used as a resistance prop? We'll explain. And the Catholic Church at a crossroads, a former Vatican ambassador to the U.S. making explosive claims that Pope Francis knowingly protected a sexual predator. Bishops are now taking sides. A special Monday appearance by Raymond Arroyo later in the hour, but first, Trump's trade triumphs, that is the focus of tonight's "Angle." As the media fixates on sideshows that will have zero impact on American lives, things like the Manafort verdict or Stormy Daniels' latest squawl (ph) or even recently, the issue with the flag going up or down, half-mast, full mast. Trump is methodically fulfilling his campaign promises. And today, he delivered on the huge one, announcing a new trade deal between Mexico and the United States. Now, remember what he said during the campaign. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I'm going to tell our NAFTA partners that I intend to immediately renegotiate the terms of that agreement, to get a better deal by a lot, not just a little, by a lot, for our workers. A Trump administration will end that war by getting a fair deal for the American people and the American worker. The era of economic surrender will finally be over. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And boy, is it. Today's agreement makes critical changes to U.S.-Mexico trade. Among them, 75 percent of auto parts will be produced in North America. That is up from 62.5 percent, any vehicle coming into the United States. And 40 to 45 percent of auto parts will be made by workers earning at least 16 bucks an hour -- good stuff. The deal also strengthens intellectual property and financial services trade protections. Also improves the trade of digital products. From the start, though, there were those who said it couldn't be done, Trump can't do it. It's all a bunch of bluster. And when Trump raised the ante, threatening to impose new, tough tariffs on Mexico and Canada, the reaction was apocalyptic. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) SEN. JEFF FLAKE (R), ARIZONA: We are in the nascent stages of a full-scale trade war and the president simply seems to want to escalate. GOV. JOHN KASICH (R), OHIO: It is not just my state that is involved here. It's our nation. It has significant consequences for us here at home, not only just economically, but politically. DAVID FRUM, SENIOR EDITOR, THE ATLANTIC: If you alienate Mexico over the wall, and over NAFTA, what you end up doing is electing this summer a much more nationalistic, much more radical Mexican president who will not cooperate. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: It turns out though (inaudible) was on board -- is on board with what they discussed. Now, just like the moving of the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, the renegotiation of the trade deal with South Korea, and Trump standing up to China, the so-called experts have consistently gotten it wrong, underestimating Trump. You see, the president has his own team of real experts. These are people from outside the old globalist trade establishment who are responsible, frankly, for those complicated, multilateral deals that hurt the American worker and destroyed American industry. From the start, members of Trump's team, like Jared Kushner and U.S. trade rep Bob Lighthizer were committed to leveling the playing field and creating reciprocity between nations. That means fair dales that will allow all parties to prosper. Isn't that what we want? And the bilateral deal, country to country, may indeed end up being the most enforceable and the most beneficial for all. Both the current and the soon-to-be Mexican presidents see the wisdom of bilateral arrangements with the United States. Now they would like Canada to be part of it, but if not, they are not going to sabotage it. This is what Trump touted today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: They used to call it NAFTA. We're going to call it the United States-Mexico Trade Agreement. We'll get rid of the name NAFTA. It has a bad connotation because the United States was hurt very badly by NAFTA. For many years and now it's a really good deal for both countries and we look very much forward to it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now it's up to Canada, which is sending a rep to Washington tomorrow to either sign right on to the Mexico deal or I guess try to fashion its own bilateral deal with United States down the road. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We will see whether or not we decide to put up Canada or just do a separate deal with Canada, if they want to make the deal. The simplest deal is more or less already made. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now, in the meantime, Trump is moving forward. And as I said, why should Mexico and the United States allow their trade relationship to be held hostage to domestic politics in Canada? And of course, Trudeau's stonewalling. The strides made after a year of negotiations are really impressive and any objective observer, if there is any of those left, would admit that tonight. And by the way, this is going to set the benchmark for any future deals in this hemisphere. Now, if the reaction to the stock market is any indication, which surge in reaction to today's news, Congress should fast- track the U.S.- Mexico Trade Agreement and keep the Trump economy humming. And that is "The Angle"." Joining us now with the reaction is Luis Videgaray. He's the Secretary of Foreign Affairs for Mexico. It is great to have you on! Thanks so much for coming. LUIS VIDEGARAY, SECRETARY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS FOR MEXICO: Laura, thank you. INGRAHAM: Es un placer, senor. VIDEGARAY: Es un placer. INGRAHAM: Es un placer. Let's talk about what happened today. How significant is this in the relationship between Mexico and the United States? VIDEGARAY: It's really significant. I think it's a breakthrough and it shows that two countries can actually get together and do a good deal. It's a good deal for both of them, that is reciprocal, that is fair, and will allow growth on both sides. It's good for Mexican workers. It's good for the American workers. I think it's a brilliant deal. INGRAHAM: This "Washington Post" columnist, Catherine Rampell is on CNN today for quite a while and she discussed what this meant and what about Canada, let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CATHERIN RAMPELL, COLUMNIST, WASHINGTON POST: Trump really needs a win, right. He needs a win before the midterms. He wants to be able to say that he has renegotiated NAFTA. In that case, he needs Canada on board and you have this very short window to get Canada on board, otherwise, the whole deal could fall apart on the Mexico side. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What about that? the whole deal could fall apart on your side if Canada, when they come tomorrow, we got those economic minister coming tomorrow, it's all over? VIDEGARAY: Let me tell you how we've explained this to the Mexican people. For almost two years, wee had great uncertainty on whether we would still have access to the U.S. market through a trade agreement. And that has been the debate because losing access to the U.S. market would be significant to Mexican economy. What happened today significant because we are guaranteeing that we will have a trade agreement with the U.S. We love Canada and we want to have Canada as part of the deal, but in case that for whatever reason, Canada is not able to join, we will still have a deal with the U.S. and we will move on. And the next coming days, the next few days are going to be crucial whether Canada is part of the deal. We are going to work 24/7 to enable the possibility of Canada being part of the deal and I say, I repeat, we really have a strong relationship with Canada. We want them in. but if, at the end of the day, for whatever reason, they are not able to be part of it, we will still move on to have a very good deal with the U.S. INGRAHAM: Jared Kushner, when he came into the White House, a lot of people thought, it's just the president's son-in-law. What does he know? Why would he have any position of authority? How critical was he in your working relationship over the last couple of years relayed to get this done? VIDEGARAY: Jared has been absolutely instrumental. I would say that we would have never arrived to this day without Jared's hard work with his vision and use his courage. You know, we've been through some rough patches in this relationship. We've had our moments where things were almost falling apart, and of those very difficult times, Jared was there, holding up the relationship, and enabling this moment to happen. So when we get to this point where we actually have a deal, it's a very good deal I think for both sides, certainly, Jared is a guy that should be on top of the list as the people that makes it happen. INGRAHAM: Yes, in "The New York Times" headline, January 24th, 2017, "Facing Trump, Mexicans Think the Unthinkable: Leaving NAFTA." How much -- how wrong, I would say, where many of the experts in what was possible between Mexico and Trump? VIDEGARAY: Well, I think a lot of people thought that this collusion was unavoidable, that this was going to be a disaster, yet I should -- you know what, Laura? A lot of people thought that NAFTA would be over last year, early last year, and that there was no way to fix this relationship in a way that it would be constructive to both sides. We proved them wrong. Through very disciplined, tenacious work, and with the vision -- INGRAHAM: And Bob Lighthizer, critical U.S. trade rep. You've become very close to him. You guys are adversarial, yet you respect each other's priorities. VIDEGARAY: I have tremendous respect for Bob. He's a true expert. He's an honest guy. Really tough. He's really tough -- INGRAHAM: That's what he says about you. VIDEGARAY: It's really tough to deal with Bob but he's phenomenal and, you know, he's an honest -- he's an honest guy to deal with. INGRAHAM: Almost out of time, AMLO new president, Mexico, a lot of people also predicted, and I was a little bit worried that when he came into power, he's coming to power at the end of the year, it's going to be tougher for the United States. How will that work out? Really quick. VIDEGARAY: We've been working like wanting (ph). AMLO has been sending representatives to these negotiations. They've been observers, but more than observers. They have been active participants and I think they are part of the reason why we got this day. INGRAHAM: Your message to the U.S. Congress, get this thing approved? VIDEGARY: This is good for Mexico. This is great for Americans. This is great for Mexico. Yes, it definitely should pass both the U.S. Congress and the Mexican Congress. INGRAHAM: Mr. Foreign Minister, thank you so much for being with us. Great job for your country. We really appreciate it. In just a short while ago, I spoke with the president's chief economic advisor, Larry Kudlow, for the White House's response and perspective. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: Larry, it's great to be with you. LARRY KUDLOW, NATIONAL ECONOMIC COUNCIL DIRECTOR: Thank you Laura. INGRAHAM: Great to have you here. KUDLOW: Wonderful. INGRAHAM: Thank you so much. KUDLOW: Thank you. INGRAHAM: Let's talk about what happened today. We just heard from Luis Videgaray, the Mexican foreign minister, of course, about how we got to this place, where all of these naysayers said it was impossible, you couldn't strike a deal with Mexico, Trump had poisoned the relationship. Give us a little behind-the-scenes look. KUDLOW: Our side, their side, you are absolutely right. And then it kept coming together. Instead of moving apart it came together and every time there was a setback, we kept moving. Huge, huge credit to Jared Kushner and Bob Lighthizer, honestly. I mean, Lighthizer is the team leader. Jared was great. POTUS kept giving the green light, you know. INGRAHAM: Get it done. He wants results. He wants people in his administration who get results, correct? KUDLOW: Yes. The president told me probably two months ago, he said I am sick of this multilateral stuff, OK. He said, you go out there, and tell folks that I want to do bilateral, much simpler, much more direct. And I did, and we took some heat from it and it paid off. China not paying off, Mexico paid off. We'll see about Canada. We got the E.U. cooking also. That may be a big positive surprise. Yes, you look around, all of a sudden, screaming at President Trump, his tactics and his aggressiveness and his plain speaking, looks like it's paying out (ph) to me. Looks like it's paying off to me. INGRAHAM: Yes, the stock market, another near record high today, up 259 points. KUDLOW: This was a growth (ph) deal! I quote growthier (ph). INGRAHAM: Oh no, are you using -- there it is. Are you using growth as an adjective? KUDLOW: Growthier. INGRAHAM: Is that something that came with the devil heart issue you had. Now you have more heart for the economy. KUDLOW: It's a Kudlow word. INGRAHAM: I've known Larry for 22 years. I can make a joke about heart. KUDLOW: I got it into an op-ed in the "Washington Post." INGRAHAM: OK, good. It's a real word now. KUDLOW: Growthier. But in all seriousness, this is a deal that free trade, fair trade, growth, prosperity for both sides, market openings, better labor value, intellectual property protection. INGRAHAM: Wait a second, David Stockman, Reagan's budget guy, Reagan's guy -- KUDLOW: My former boss. INGRAHAM: Yes, your former boss said this today. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DAVID STOCKMAN, BUDGET DIRECTOR UNDER PRESIDENT REAGAN: I think it's a great big P.R. stunt. This isn't MAGA, OK. This isn't going to do a lot for the American economy or workers. In fact, NAFTA was never a problem. The whole thing is, like, a phony issue. (END VIDEO CLIP) KUDLOW: Well, look, Dave is an old, old friend of mine. He and I disagree in a whole bunch of things the last 30 or so years. By the by, this is going to help workers, all right. There is good domestic content. There is good North American content laws which are enforceable, going to give labor better value. There is some wage push going on in here. That's all very important. If you are not in the U.S.-Mexican zone or may be the North American zone, like China, you're going to have a lot of trouble doing business, particularly in autos and auto parts so, I think this really helps the growth story. INGRAHAM: But doesn't he represent kind of the old Republican Party where if you push back on any of this big trade deal -- and you and I have been talking about this on the radio and T.V. for literally 20 years now. He's the old -- it's the old guard still speaking out and Stockman was the pro- growth guy. The idea that this is not going to be good for the American worker when 75 percent of the parts and any automobile coming into the United States has to be made either in the United States or Mexico instead of coming through China, which these auto parts have been coming through, siphoning through Mexico coming into the United States, tariff free, Larry. And David Stockman is out there with Cavuto saying this is no big deal. Come on! What's happened to these people? KUDLOW: Crankiness. It's crankiness. That's all I could say. INGRAHAM: It's making me cranky. (Inaudible) cranky. KUDLOW: You know, you're not cranky. We are part of the optimistic view. As I say, this is a growth component. I don't care what my pal Dave Stockman said or (inaudible). Lok, wait, no digital barriers, OK, biological barriers, intellectual property rights barriers, this is going to give us a leg up on entrepreneurship and inventiveness, which is really the heart of -- INGRAHAM: But Canada is coming in tomorrow, coming into town tomorrow, the Canadian economic minister and she is going to be -- Freeland, and she's going to be here. She has been -- she's like giving speeches. It seems to me that Trudeau has previously enjoyed triangulating against Trump because for him it's good domestic politics, he thinks. But what they did -- is this not true -- they pushed it to the mat with Canada. I don't think Canada thought he was going to get a deal with Mexico. Suddenly they are odd man out. Will they ultimately come to the table and agree to this deal? KUDLOW: Well, they are coming to town and there will be a table. I don't know. I don't know what this -- INGRAHAM: Come on. Why is she flying into town? To make another speech? She's good at making speeches. KUDLOW: Yes, she -- I don't want to get into personal stuff. Look, the president spoke to Trudeau today. Potus would like to get a good deal, OK? A good deal, but he told the prime minister, and he said to us, if we can't get a good deal, then he may well resort to automobile taxes or tariffs, foreign import taxes. The Canadians do not want that -- INGRAHAM: But they were ridiculing the president today saying, well these are American cars. It's Ford, et cetera, made in Canada coming in, so they were all ridiculing the president, saying, well, the Canadians don't make cars -- or American cars made in Canada -- that doesn't matter. That's the same deal with Mexico. They are American cars but when they have of all these component parts that are made in China, it is not a good deal for us. They don't even know the trade deal and they are ridiculing it. KUDLOW: By the way, I doubt if they read the trade deal -- INGRAHAM: No, of course not. KUDLOW: -- the Mexican deal, but just putting that aside, the president has said he would like to have a good deal but if not, he is willing to go on the car tax, if he has to do it, OK. That's his negotiating form, and look, you have to be tough, you have to be strong. Trudeau disappointed us a lot, stabbing us in the back, way last spring in the G7 meeting. I hope he doesn't pull any of that stuff again. Let's just go back to Mexico because I'm proud of that. There are so many market openings here, as I said, financial services, intellectual property rights, entrepreneurship. It's going to help the farmers. This is great stuff, not tariffs. Market openings, on both sides. INGRAHAM: It's a more efficient market place. KUDLOW: Absolutely. INGRAHAM: Everyone has said Trump's anti-trade. It's all a lie. It was a lie from the beginning, Larry. KUDLOW: Trump is a free trader. He knows that. He wants to get to the free trade, no tariffs, no nontariff barriers, no subsidies, that is his goal but you have to be tough to get to there. INGRAHAM: Larry, before we let you go, John McCain, big controversy, the White House lowered the flag, then raises it, lowers it, what is up with that? What the heck happened with the flag and everyone is focused on the flag and McCain and, you know, the great hero to this country and patriot? KUDLOW: I think at the end of the day, the press release put out, the president statement was the right thing. That's what my view is. I've known McCain a long time, you have too, but we all have our eccentricities -- INGRAHAM: Oh, we don't, Larry. We are perfect. We don't have any eccentricities. KUDLOW: You and I have to sit here and reform the Catholic Church. INGRAHAM: OH, no, no, That's another segment with Raymond Arroyo coming up. Hold that thought. KUDLOW: That's a whole segment, you know, here we are, converts. INGRAHAM: All right, Larry, thanks for coming in -- KUDLOW: Just trying to do the right thing. INGRAHAM: Yes, we are converts and we act like we own the place. KUDLOW: What are they doing this -- INGRAHAM: No, no, no. It makes it hard. Hey, thanks for staying up for us tonight. We really, really appreciate it. Great to see you. KUDLOW: Anytime. I appreciate it. (END VIDEOTAPE) INGRAHAM: And why the hard left dream of impeaching President Trump may be the ultimate gift for Republicans in the midterms. What do I mean about that? Coming up. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. AL GREEN (D), TEXAS: I think it's becoming increasingly clear that the president will have two options. One, he can resign from office, or two, he can face impeachment. REP. ERIC SWALWELL (D), CALIFORNIA: I think having thorough investigations, putting forth an impenetrable case so the American people doing it in a bipartisan way, is the proper way to do this, but we are not there yet. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Democrats are clearly torn. You just saw that on this issue of impeachment. Now, deep down I think they know that they are activists not job base wants Trump impeached. Plus they just love talking about it. That's going to help their ratings. But their internal polls are telling them something different, that the country is not that excited about another impeachment drama 20 years after the Clinton proceedings. But whatever path the Democrats choose to go down, one thing is clear, Republican voters sense that this is a winning issue. Take a listen to some of the callers on my radio show this morning. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The impeachment talk I think is wonderful. It motivated me and my family. I think they said it over 200 times at MSNBC and CNN and I think, you know, enough is enough. There is my motivation. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not a Republican and I'm not a Democrat, but nothing in this world is going to stop me from getting to the polls in November and voting straight Republican down the bill because I will do anything it takes to protect this president. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The personal life of Mr. Trump, we don't care. We see the results of him being in office and it's amazing. And I'm saying this as a Mexican immigrant woman who registered Republican and it's not just me. It's many people that I know. (END AUDIO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: I love doing radio show. You get the pulse of the people every single day and the mainstream media are totally disconnected. Joining me now with their thoughts, Dan Bongino, the former Secret Service agent, Chris Hahn, radio host, former aide to Senator Chuck Schumer. It's great to see both of you. This impeachment talk is fascinating because it's like kind of a trigger finger, like you get a happy finger, like you're used to shooting and you were shooting at targets, then you got to watch yourself because maybe you're going to fire at something you don't want to fire at. Dan Bongino, let's start with you. What about this kind of internal tug-of- war in the Democratic Party? Where does their heart lie on this issue? DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Well, here's the problem the Democrats are having right now, Laura. Their activist radical base, the people who are motivated to go vote in primaries, the Bernie Sanders types, the Ocasio-Cortez supporters who wear the t-shirts, you know, the "We Love Socialism" shirts with the big hear, you know. Those people are motivated to get Trump out of office no matter what. They are not even interested in the high crimes or misdemeanors because Trump's crime was winning the election, that's it. That is the issue they have. The more moderate, if there are any be left, event the reasonable, rational Democrats up on the Hill, understand that this is a total, complete loser. You have people like Eric Swalwell, who you showed before, the Democrat congressman, who represents a radical district in California. You know, he may be OK saying that, but you go to a Joe Manchin type, if you were to win re- election in the senate race, you think he is going to vote for impeachment in the senate trial? Are you kidding me? That's a joke. Give me a break. INGRAHAM: Chris Hahn, I get why the Democrats are kind of in this seemingly impossible position in a way because that is where the juice is, right. We're going to get Trump. We're going to do hearings on whether Jared Kushner really should get a security clearance. I mean, they've been listing all these investigations that they want to do, if indeed, they take the House in November. But you get the sense that the regular folks out there, they are just not that jacked up on a year or two of hearings. I just don't feel it at least. CHRIS HAHN, FORMER AIDE TO SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER: Well, I don't know. It worked for the Republicans for six years when they controlled the House because all they did was hearings. Look, I don't think impeachment is going to be on the table unless you have a large group of Republicans decide that they feel that this president needs to be removed. And I don't think that's going to happen, given our current environment. But I do believe that the president should be subject to checks and balances and I think most of the American people agree with me on that. And I think that is why you're going to see the Democrats at least take the House, if not the House and Senate come November. And look, impeachment is just one way to do things. INGRAHAM: That's funny! HAHN: Impeachment is just one way we do things, Laura. You know, I know you and I are both fans of "The Princess Bride," so is Dan, he won't admit it, but you know the last scene in "The Princess Bride," where he's talking to the prince -- Wesley is talking to the prince and saying it's not a fight to the death. No, it's a fight to the pain. And that is what is going to happen in the last two years of the Trump presidency. If they try to go and take him out of office, they will guarantee him four more years. And I don't think the Democratic Party wants to do that. I think what they want to do is make sure that the people who are making things bad in this administration, the cabinet secretaries who are abusing their power and travelling on the government's dollar -- INGRAHAM: OK, that's a different matter. Yes, yes, I get that. HAHN: -- that stuff needs to be looked into by Congress and this Congress has been feckless in doing it and that's why the American people are voting them out. INGRAHAM: OK, I get that. Yes, I get that if Democrats have the house -- actually, things that are happening in the government, I understand that. We are talking about, why, you know, why did he not release his tax returns -- Americans already litigated that. It was called the election, that's what I'm getting at. But I also want to get your thoughts on something else. Last week, we all heard from the media that Trump was finished, Dan Bongino. Watch. BONGINO: Yes. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC HOST: After this week, I think it's safe to say it is certainly the end of the beginning. MICHAEL D'ANTONIO, CNN COMMENTATOT: This has got to be the worst week the president has faced since taking office. NICOLE WALLACE, MSNBC HOST: -- what might be Donald Trump's worst week ever as president. LAWRENCE O'DONNELL, MSNBC HOST: This was Donald Trump's worst weak as president, and no doubt, the worst week of his life. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Do they really need glasses? That's my question. An NBC-Wall Street Journal poll finds the president' approval numbers are remarkably stable, barely moving from surveys conducted right before and right after the Manafort and Cohen news. Dan, they were flummoxed over at MSNBC today, Chris Jansen -- I used to work with her years ago. She's a nice person, but she was like, what do you make of this? The president's numbers aren't moving. I'm screaming at the T.V. Dan, during my radio show, saying, because the media are irrelevant. Nobody cares about what you say is the worst week. Bongino? BONGINO: Yes, you know, Laura, I've been honored to be doing cable news appearances for a long time. I used to do other networks. I don't anymore for obvious reasons. They don't want to report the news. But you know what they do on other networks? They watch what's happening on FOX. So to those of the networks now, listen, everybody is laughing at you. They are not laughing with you. They are laughing at you. Laura, this reminds of an article I read, I forgot where it was, but I read it. I think Jonah Goldberg wrote it. And he wrote about how the government's war on smoking worked, because everybody knew a smoker, and they knew how to talk to them, and they knew how to get them to quit, and it mattered. The media has no idea whatsoever how to talk to people who live in heartland America. They might as well be -- INGRAHAM: Because they hate -- BONGINO: They can't stand them. INGRAHAM: They look down on them. BONGINO: We're laughing at them. And they think they are -- INGRAHAM: We've got to get Chris in here. Chris, look, the Democrats have had trouble connecting with those blue-collar workers. Republicans have a challenge with suburban women, clearly. But there does seem to be a disconnect. Whether you're Republican or Democrat on this middle America, what they care about verses what the media are all hot and bothered about. Chris? HAHN: Look, rarely are political careers destroyed by a bad day. It's the drip, drip, drip of scandal that is going to ruin the Republicans chances of holding the Congress in November, because there has been drip after drip after drip, and the campaign starts the day after Labor Day, and people are going to start hearing about those trips day in and day out. And there is more to come, more than likely. And that's the problem for the president's party, not necessarily for the president. The FOX News poll last week was very telling. I think it's said a lot of things. This poll obviously has been very stable, but most of this poll was taken before -- but one scandal never ruined your career. It's the drip, drip, drip. And there's been a lot -- INGRAHAM: Got it. Got it. Great conversation, guys. Thanks so much. Up next, the death of Senator John McCain, an American hero, being used by the media to bash the president. We discuss it next. INGRAHAM: My disagreements with John McCain over the years notwithstanding, he was an American hero, an American patriot, served the public for 60 years, 60 of his 81 years. But to some in the news media, the most important part of his life was his last three years when he feuded with Donald Trump. I wonder why they are doing that. And there was little love lost, we know that, between Trump and the late senator. But a simple question -- is now the time to constantly invoke a political feud? Joining me for their text, Ari Fleischer, former White House press secretary for President George W. Bush, Monica Crowley from the London Center for Policy Research, and Juan Williams, cohost of "The Five." Juan, what do you see happening here? There's been kind of a nonstop series of complaints about how President Trump first tweeted about it, the statement wasn't long enough, the way the flag was lowered, then it should have stayed lowered, then it was lowered again. And to me it seems like a lot of this is getting away from John McCain the man and back to criticizing Trump the president. Your reaction? JUAN WILLIAMS, COHOST, "THE FIVE": I agree. I think you have to honor John McCain the man, especially now as we go into this season of grieving and pay our respects to him and his family. He truly was an American patriot, I think almost the definition in our generation, Laura. But I disagree with you about the media. I don't think the media is the one that refused to issue the statement at the recommendation of the chief of staff, the press secretary. I don't think it's the press that lowered the flag just temporarily and put it up back and then changing course. I don't think it's the press that has been out there taking shots at John McCain. I think that's Donald Trump. INGRAHAM: You know the current code for allowing the flag, it's been a tradition that it's lowered for the day of the day after the passing of a member of Congress. In some recent years it has lasted for several days, but it's not like Trump did something that is completely out of the ordinary. I probably would have just kept it lowered until he was actually buried. WILLIAMS: And the American Legion said the same thing. INGRAHAM: That's fine. But, again, to turn this, Ari Fleischer, into, well, McCain was this type of man, and Donald Trump is this other type of man, immoral, without a great sense of patriotism as he was not bipartisan, et cetera, et cetera, you get the sense that these political types are salivating over the opportunity to use a death to hit Trump. Am I misreading this? ARI FLEISCHER, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: No, Laura, you nailed it. And let me just stipulate, John McCain and Donald Trump did not get along. And that is the way two grown-up politicians can act toward each other. John McCain didn't want Donald Trump to come to his funeral. Donald Trump can return the favor by being dismissive if he wants. But the press, as they covered this, it's very situational. They cover you depending on what situation you find yourself in. So in 2000, they loved John McCain because he was running against George Bush. In 2008 when John McCain ran against Barack Obama, they didn't really love him anymore. They loved him when he took positions against Republicans after he lost the presidential race. And then they didn't love him anymore when he was for the surge. Now of course that he is in a spat with Donald Trump, they love him again. This is how the press covers these things, and it is really just to stir a pot. It's not to shine an eternal light on the truth. INGRAHAM: Monica, I remember back in 2010 when John McCain was running for reelection to the Senate, he ran his campaign commercial about how we need to repair that dang fence. Remember, he got a huge amount of blowback from the media, saying, where's the other John McCain. So again, back to Ari's point. The media took shot after shot after shot at McCain when he was McCain the conservative standing up for the pro-life movement or in this case building the fence, or the border structure. But now that McCain is the opponent of Trump, they use that as a convenient vehicle just days before his burial. MONICA CROWLEY, LONDON CENTER FOR POLICY RESEARCH: Yes, you know the press has always been shameless, but in situations like this, you see it put in bold relief. I remember in the runup to the 2008 election, I remember Democratic friends of mine in New York and elsewhere saying, oh, John McCain, he is a moderate, he's a centrist. He is the kind of Republican that I can get with. And then after the election, I said, well, did you vote for him? Of course not. And when it comes to the media, this is the same media, so many of them, that profess to love the maverick until he won the Republican nomination for president. Then they began to smear him with all kinds of abominable lies and attacks. So this is who they are, and we know that. I just hope, John McCain has a special place in my heart because I worked for President Nixon during the last years of his life. Nixon was the commander in chief that brought John McCain home after he was released. President Nixon had many wonderful things to say about Senator McCain and had enormous respect for him. I think we all share in that. I just hope that in the next days leading up to his funeral, that we don't go down this path of what happened with Paul Wellstone, who was a Democrat who died in office, a U.S. senator, very far left guy, and his funeral was turned into this partisan jamboree. I think in death we ought to eulogize these people, honor their service to the country, even when we disagree with them, but respect their memory. INGRAHAM: I think, Juan, Marc Short said today, we don't play the soundbite, but he basically said, if Trump had been very sentimental toward McCain, they would have ridiculed Trump, saying, you guys didn't get along. You are faking it now. You said this thing about a captured POW, now you are trying to lionize McCain. Basically saying, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Is there some of that going on with every move that Donald Trump makes? He just simply cannot won with this media. WILLIAMS: I don't think so. In fact, I think people try to make sure in the media that they are not in position to be criticized by Laura Ingraham. They go out of their way. To me, you got to go back to the idea that Trump insulted the guy in a very critical moment, and in a way that says you are not of a hero because he got caught. And that just offended a lot of people, but it didn't stop Trump from winning the nomination. INGRAHAM: He got elected. WILLIAMS: I was going to say that. Republicans made a decision there. So I think that ultimately this is about Donald Trump's behavior to a rival, and I just don't think it's admirable. I do not. INGRAHAM: While, Ari, I'll let you close it out. McCain, remember back in 2004, he joked about his being number two to John Kerry on the ticket, remember that, and Republicans went crazy. He was kind of joking. But the media loves it when a Republican praising Obama, praising Clinton, they love that. But when a Republican is a hardline conservative on issue after issue, that is when they unload. So McCain is obviously in death, a war hero, getting into an amazing sendoff, and I think that's fantastic. But Trump is not going to be a phony here. He's not going to pretend that he and McCain were buddy-buddy. They weren't. Trump was tough on him, and I wouldn't have said what he said about the POW thing, but you have got to say both of them are kind of honest in the end. FLEISCHER: The other part of this that bothers me when you talk about the press coverage is, don't forget in 2008, there were reporters at "The Huffington Post" columnist who wrote that McCain was a racist. We heard that throughout the 2008 campaign. But this is not about Donald Trump. As much as I think that the flag should have been at half-mast, let the two have their feud. It's going to the grave now. But this is not about Donald Trump. This is about John McCain's life. And that's who we should be talking about, that is what the media should be focused on. And I really don't think this is going to move Americans if Donald Trump doesn't behave the way you want him to about John McCain. This is about John McCain's life, not Donald Trump's. INGRAHAM: An amazing life, and amazing American patriotic experience. Thank you all for joining us tonight. But what happens, by the way, to a celebrity who refuses publicly to track Trump? Tiger Woods is finding out the hard way. INGRAHAM: Tiger Woods is under fire for this exchange with a reporter during a tournament yesterday. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think a lot of people, especially of color, immigrants, feel threatened by him and his policies. He has thrown himself into the sports debates, LeBron James, the National Anthem. What do you say to people who might find it interesting that you have a friendly relationship with him? TIGER WOODS, GOLFER: He's the president of United States. You have to respect of the office. And no matter who is in the office, you may like, dislike the personality or the politics, but we all must respect the office. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So controversial. The president tweeted his thanks to Tiger today to not taking the media's bait. But that storm looks far from over for Woods. Joining us now, Jason Whitlock, cohost of "Speak for Yourself" on FOX Sports One. Jason, what do we think here, what is happening? Tiger Woods, he's been friends with the president for some time. They play golf together every now and then, but you might as well put him up on a cross because he actually wouldn't trash the president yesterday. JASON WHITLOCK, HOST, FOX SPORTS: Look, for a number of years Donald Trump was popular with all sorts of celebrities, black, white, liberal, conservative, whatever. And there are a group of them from Tom Brady to Tiger Woods to Bill Belichick to Kanye West who will not renounce Trump. And I don't blame them. I think that the media is trying to force a narrative that if you are black, you have to hate Donald Trump because he somehow went from 30 years being very popular in black culture, been very popular with rappers and all kinds of celebrities, and then he became the president and he became the most racist man on the planet earth. And some people just aren't going for that who know Donald Trump, like a Tiger Woods, like a Kanye West, like a Tom Brady, and I don't blame them for standing firm. INGRAHAM: Jason, I want you to react to something that happened today. A couple people you know well on ESPN's "First Take." Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MAX KELLERMAN, ESPN HOST: We must respect the office, therefore that confers respect to the occupant. Tiger, is that what you are saying? If that is what you are saying, that it is a stupid comment. I don't even know if he believes that is what he is saying. STEPHEN A SMITH, ESPN HOST: First of all we don't know what Tiger Woods believes. He's Cablinasian. He's not black. When he got arrested, he was black. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I don't know what Cablinasian is. I must be really out of it. WHITLOCK: I think that is how Tiger defines himself. Listen, but here is where I disagree. And I know Stephen A., I'm friends with Max Kellerman, I've known them both for a long time. Where Stephen A. is saying because he's not black when he was arrested they listed him as black, Tiger Woods, like every human being, gets to define himself. Other people don't get to define Tiger Woods. So I reject that by Stephen A. Smith. And as far as Max Kellerman goes, look, man, if Tiger Woods respects Donald Trump, they have a long established relationship or friendship, if Tiger Woods was raised by a military father and a Thai mother who taught him to have an ultimate respect for authority, for the country, Tiger Woods just doesn't buy Max Kellerman's negative narrative, and he has a right to do that. He's an American. He is free to think what Tiger Woods thinks and what he was raised to believe, not what Max Kellerman and other liberals who, I guess, just want black people to dance to whatever music they play, they can't dance to their own music. And again, I am friends with Max Kellerman. I get it. But some of these white liberals just want black people to dance to whatever song they are playing, and some people just don't want to do that. INGRAHAM: To me it is beyond outrageous and shocking to tell other people what they should think about their own friendship. I mean, what happened to people being able to decide who they want to be friends with? I guess that's not allowed anymore in liberal la-la land. WHITLOCK: Laura, I'm taking a lot of heat for saying this, but listen, we in this country have bought into this narrative that if you are liberal, you are free of racism. And if you just paint yourself in that liberal brush, no one can question anything. If you look at the behavior -- and again, I know Max Kellerman, I don't think he's a racist. But is he behaving in a racist fashion when he's telling Tiger Woods he can only think this way? Who is dictating the mindset that Tiger Woods and other free people how they have to think? I wish I was that smart to tell myself what to think and others. INGRAHAM: All right, Jason, great to talk to you. Come on radio soon. Great to have you on tonight. And coming up, shocking allegations of sexual abuse. A cover up that includes Pope Francis. Raymond Arroyo has the latest next. INGRAHAM: The Catholic Church is in a state of upheaval tonight. A newly released letter by former Vatican ambassador to the U.S., Carlo Vigano, claims that Pope Francis and other top officials of the church knew of the allegations of sexual abuse against Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, the archbishop of Washington. They knew it for years. What is the real story here? For more, we are joined by Raymond Arroyo, managing editor of EWT News who has covered the Vatican for decades, and a FOX News contributor. Raymond, who are these -- who is the main whistleblower? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Archbishop Vigano, who you mentioned earlier, he was the nuncio, the ambassador to the U.S. for the Vatican here for about five years. He also ran all of the ambassadors' embassies around the world for the Vatican. INGRAHAM: Well respected. ARROYO: Very well respected. Man of integrity. A sharpshooter, and a man who has been he been a whistleblower in the past. In 2011, he wrote secret letters to Pope Benedict at the time outing corruption in the Vatican. Those were leaked and became the VatiLeaks scandal. It was his exposes, meant only for the Pope's eyes, that got worldwide attention. INGRAHAM: Why is he releasing this letter? He's 77 years old. ARROYO: He claims he wants to unveil his conscience, he can't go to his death with the information he has, and he sees the corruption and the double-dealing in the Vatican. He's exposing it. His allegation, the principal one, is that between 2009 and 2010, Pope Benedict imposed a penalty on Archbishop McCarrick because he knew they had paid settlements to men that he had abused. He also took him out of public ministry. Now when Pope Francis became Pope, Vigano claims he informed the Pope himself of McCarrick's misdeeds, and the Pope ignored this and restored McCarrick. That is the charge. INGRAHAM: That is the allegation, and some others are vouching for Vigano's credibility and -- ARROYO: We should put up a full-screen. I want people to see this. This is a full screen from the letter of Vigano. Watch this. It says, "Francis knew from at least June 23rd, 2013, that McCarrick was a serial predator. In an extremely dramatic moment for the universal church, he must acknowledge his mistakes, and in keeping with the proclaimed principle of zero-tolerance, Pope Francis must be the first to set a good example for cardinals and bishops who covered up for McCarrick's abuses and resign along with all of them." He's calling for the Pope's resignation and for all of these people. INGRAHAM: This is exploding all around the world. And this is coming on that big family meeting in Ireland, which was not well attended, by the way. Here is the Pope reacting to the news on a plane returning from that family conference in Ireland. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) POPE FRANCIS: I read it, and I will say sincerely that I must say this to you and all of you who are interested. Read the document carefully and judge it for yourselves. I will not say one word on this. I think this statement speaks for itself. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Many Catholics are saying it speaks for itself, and they feel the Pope should have done some disclaimer, said something, it looks like an evasive answer, and it makes the public bad. In the meantime, bishops around the United States and the world, Texas, Arizona, and the entire Conference of Catholic Bishops, say these are chargers that need full investigation. They are demanding that from Pope Francis. INGRAHAM: Could this lead to the ouster of a Pope? That's never happened before. ARROYO: We'll see. There is no mechanism to do that. So we'll have to see. We'll continue on this. INGRAHAM: Fantastic, Raymond. Thanks so much. Will be right back. INGRAHAM: Before we go tonight, this is so choice, I love it. Lanny Davis says he was the source for CNN's Trump Tower story and that he regrets it, and he regrets his denial of its own involvement. Oh, my god. I mean, what else would a lawyer, former lawyer for the Clintons do? Sorry, but prevaricate, misrepresent. We'll be on that tomorrow night. And I'll see you on the radio tomorrow. We love hearing your thoughts. Follow me on Twitter. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team coming up next I'm sure on this story and a lot more. Shannon? Load-Date: August 28, 2018 End of Document Pressure Mounting on A.G. Sessions; Mueller's Partisan Witch-Hunt Rages On; Media's Impeachment Obsession; New Book Exposes Lucrative Deep State Revolving Door; A Top Government Official Said that after the Midterm Elections, There May be Some Talks about a Possible New Attorney General; President Trump Says that the Horrific Killing of an Iowa College Student, Mollie Tibbetts, by an Illegal Criminal Alien is Exactly One of the Reasons Why He Wants to Toughen the Immigration Laws in the Country Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 23, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7976 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters, Jessica Tarlov Guests: Seamus Bruner, Peter Schweizer, Joe diGenova, David Schoen Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: A lot of robots. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Yes. HANNITY: They work in our industry. CARLSON: Tell me about it. HANNITY: It's all groupthink. It is one big bubble, and they all talk to each other, and they all say the same cliches, talking points. It's pretty amazing. I'm never going on your quiz show, by the way. Ever. (LAUGHTER) CARLSON: You would win. Come on. HANNITY: I sit there at home, and I am always the last one with the buzzer on "Jeopardy." So, I'm not doing it. Have -- good show tonight. Thank you. And welcome to HANNITY. All right. A lot of breaking news tonight. Pressure is now mounting on the attorney general of the United States, tonight, Jeff Sessions. Robert Mueller's partisan witch hunt has now completely jumped off the rails. Real crimes of collusion, yes, featuring Hillary's bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier are totally ignored. We have rampant FISA abuse, FISA judges lied to, all unchecked. Bias, corruption, nepotism at the highest level of our federal bureaucracy, all going unpunished. Jeff Sessions is nowhere to be found. It's sad. And during his interview with Ainsley Earhardt, the president slammed his absentee attorney general. We're going to show you the tape. And as Mueller's witch hunt is raging on, we'll show you how one Manafort juror trashes the special counsel. We have all the latest examples from the media's obsession of the day. You're going to love it. Impeachment repeated 222 times in a day. We've got all of them tonight. We're going to use the Mueller model also. "Hannity" investigation, we -- with the help of a brand-new book, that I -- is now destined to be a bestseller, it's shining a light on the lucrative revolving door. A lot of FBI, DOJ guys, government guys, private sector, millions of dollars. Wait until you hear the millions of dollars James Comey and Robert Mueller himself made. And we'll also cover the horrific, sad, tragic murder of Mollie Tibbetts, all at the hands of an illegal immigrant. Some on the left are so absolutely cruel to the victim of what is a senseless act of violence, that if we start protecting people, we can stop this. All right. Stay tuned. We've got a jam-packed opening monologue as we kick it off. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Less than one month after being sworn in, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, he abandoned his post, completely recused himself from all things Russia and Hillary. This has been a tremendous disservice to the president and the country that he serves. Now, knowing he would do this, he did have an obligation to tell the president of the United States. Now, here we are, a year and a half later. Look at what the Russia investigation has become. Sessions recused himself from all of it. It has now morphed into New York taxi cab medallions, taxes, tax forms, bank applications, payout to porn stars, and what is a partisan witch hunt against the president and, frankly, everyone around him, an unmitigated disaster for so many personally. Lives upended and literally uprooted, and the entire country as a result. During his interview with Ainsley Earhardt, the president had this to say about his absentee attorney general. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AINSLEY EARHARDT, FOX NEWS HOST, "FOX & FRIENDS": Will you fire Sessions? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, I'll you what, I've said, I wanted to stay uninvolved, but when everybody sees what's going on in the Justice Department -- I always put justice now with quotes, it's a very, very sad day. Jeff Sessions recused himself, which he shouldn't have done. Or he should have told me. Even my enemies say that Jeff Sessions should've told you that he was going to recuse himself. And then you wouldn't have put him in. He took the job, and then he said, I'm going to recuse myself. I said, what kind of a man is this? And, by the way, he was on the campaign. The only reason I gave him the job is because I felt loyalty. He was an original supporter. He was on the campaign. He knows there was no collusion. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Why hasn't Jeff Sessions done the thing? And today, Sessions then, what does he do? He indirectly responds to the president in a statement, Rod Rosenstein maybe wrote it. In part, while I am attorney general, the actions of the Department of Justice will not be improperly influenced by political considerations. OK. Is the attorney general -- Jeff, I have known you for years. Do you not realize the shocking two-tiered system of justice in the country under your rule as attorney general? You being the head of the Department of Justice. Here's the questions I posed to the attorney general's office today. Does he believe that Hillary Clinton violated the law with that private server, that top-secret classified information, intelligence? Does he believe she has obstructed justice, 33,000 subpoenaed emails erased, hard drives erased, devices destroyed? Does the attorney general -- is he concerned at all that Hillary's exoneration was written as early as May 2016 by Peter Strzok, James Comey, before 17 witnesses, even Hillary, were even interviewed? Attorney General Sessions, do you believe that FISA court judges were lied to? Are you concerned that multiple FISA applications didn't reveal that Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid for the dirty Russian dossier, Russian influence in the election? Is the attorney general concerned no one in the FBI ever bothered to verify, corroborate independently, the contents of the dirty Russian dossier? Is the attorney general concerned about the wave of firings, resignations, demotions at his Department of Justice because of rampant anti-Trump bias, corruption, lying, abuse of power? Mr. Attorney General, why does Bruce Ohr still have a job at the DOJ? In other words, Mr. Attorney General, where are you? Now, I did contact the attorney general's office today. They were kind enough to get back to me. But like a lot of things, they said they can't talk about ongoing or potentially ongoing investigations. It gives us no information, we don't see anything. Nothing. We got the Horwitz report, when are we going to get to the bottom? When are these people that have abused their powers ever going to get the indictments they deserve? Do we have a two-tiered justice system? If that is the case, let us know and we'll give up, because if we have a two-tiered justice system, we lose the constitutional republic. Sara Carter reporting tonight that two long-time sessions allies, Senator Lindsey Graham and Senator Chuck Grassley, they would support the president's decision to fire the attorney general. Here's what's really happening, it's much deeper. The president clearly has lost confidence in the attorney general. And, frankly, based on his comments today, the attorney general doesn't seem to like the president, either. But the president, he does have the absolute power to fire the attorney general. But the president also knows, politically, because of the Mueller witch hunt and everything that has ensued, he is not going to get a fair shake. And the media will go absolutely nuts. The Democrats will go insane. The attorney general is incapable seemingly of understanding a massive double standard that has emerged in America. He is a top law enforcement officer. Two-tiered justice system, that is what is going on in the country. Mr. Attorney General, speak to us. Do you care? Meanwhile, unbridled by a real mandate, look at Mueller's witch hunt rolls on. The one focus: on anything and everything except Trump-Russia collusion. The one that ignores mountains of evidence, that we have broken much of which on this program. A lot of it includes Russia. It is a travesty in the American system of justice. Paul Manafort found guilty, charges never would have been investigated if that man wasn't appointed in this witch hunt. Nothing to do with Russian collusion, nothing to do with Trump, nothing to do with the campaign in 2016. Michael Cohen's plea deal, nothing to do with Russia collusion, the 2016 campaign, implicated the president in no crimes. Even Alan Dershowitz, liberal professor from Harvard, he actually bravely went on conspiracy TV MSNBC to spread a little bit of reality and truth to the absolute shock and awe of one host. This is priceless. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Prosecutors say Michael Cohen broke the law, and Michael Cohen says the president told me to do it. You said last night as well that you believe every president breaks the law during an election. I mean, really? Does that make it OK? You are quoted that every candidate violates election laws when they run for president. ALAN DERSHOWITZ, HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR: Let me tell you what I said. Candidates violate election laws all the time. You can get back -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did that make it OK? DERSHOWITZ: It doesn't. But let me be very clear. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And isn't that moving the goalpost? DERSHOWITZ: You're not letting me make my point. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Go ahead, make your point. DERSHOWITZ: You're not letting me make my point. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All yours. DERSHOWITZ: My point is the president doesn't break the law, if as a candidate, he contributes to his own campaign. So, if he gave $1 million to two women as hush money, there would be no crime. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: There is the face of someone that lives in the media bubble that Tucker and I were talking about, seemingly hearing the truth for the very first time. It is so obvious the mainstream media has been doing the Democrats' bidding. And this has been going on for a long time. They loved Obama. They never talk about Obama's failures. They loved Hillary Clinton, openly rooting in this case for Donald Trump to be impeached. Perfectly demonstrated yesterday, one MSNBC host literally held the hand of one-time "New York Times" so-called journalist, needed his hand held when he called for impeachment. This is priceless, too. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I supported the impeachment of Bill Clinton in '98 because I think he had disgraced his office and committed perjury. I think it is consistent on conservatives and Republicans to support the same for President Trump now, given the campaign finance violations are much greater, are much more felonious. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're looking for consistency. We are talking about politics. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I know, I know. But, nonetheless, Congress has an obligation, and it is why Democrats should be put in office in November. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Good luck to you, brother. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: These people don't know the law. They don't know the Constitution. They are a bunch of talking head idiots. They do no research. They do no investigative reporting. What you just saw is a small example of the media's -- nonstop, breathless obsession with Trump impeachment. Look at NewsBusters study: CBS, NBC touting impeachment on their nightly broadcast. Get this, yesterday over at fake news CNN, conspiracy TV MSNBC, the word "impeachment" is mentioned a whopping 222 times. For nearly three days, this impeachment hysteria peddling, it's been nonstop. Don't believe me? We got the tape. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Given the events of today, the likelihood of impeachment, I'm not saying it's high necessarily, but it certainly went up. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeach. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president is clearly guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. He should resign his office or be impeached. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Today, the Trump presidency took a giant step toward impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment implications are now in the air. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If it is a crime, it certainly is an impeachable offense. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeach Trump. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment is a word in play here in Washington today. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Should the president be impeached? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There are Democrats who say there's more than enough to impeach. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is itself an impeachable offense? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Consider something as serious as impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment process. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president will be removed from office after an impeachment trial. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On the impeachment issue. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Talk about impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You want to talk about impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment right now. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do not talk about impeachment. (END VIDEO CLIPS) HANNITY: Like November when they were saying shh-hole, hole. Well, that's basically what you are getting in so- called news coverage. There you have it, the echo chamber at its worst. And sadly, the media is just one part of these forces working to destroy the president since the day he came down the escalator. We have an important report to bring you, pay close attention to this, from another force looking to take down the presidency. That's the deep state. All right. So, everyone in the deep state, they don't talk about Russia collusion 2016, Trump, Russia, Russia anymore. No, instead, they have decided, well, they can't find anything there, so let's move on to anything and everything else besides Russia, and Clinton paying for Russian lies to get warrants on people presenting them to judges, lying to judges, fraud on judges, as if their gospel truth. But they never verified it. Tonight, we're going to follow -- let's follow the Democrat-Mueller model. We are going to investigate the investigators. And we're going to follow the money. There is a new book from the Government Accountability Institute, Seamus Bruner. It's titled "Compromised". This is the same people that gave us "Clinton Cash." Remember the best-selling book, Pete Schweizer told us all about Uranium One? Still haven't gotten to the bottom of that either. This is how money and politics drive FBI corruption. Now, it is shining a light tonight on one troubling aspect of the deep state, oh, and FBI even. They're the top levels, not rank-and-file. They have a revolving door between the federal government and the private sector. And the amount of money is staggering. According to Bruner in his new report, top bureaucratic sycophants leveraging their government experience and, yes, security clearances mean money. It's apparently to garner huge payouts from large corporations. For example, Mr. Integrity himself, Jim Comey, his net worth skyrocketed by more than 4,000 percent after he left the DOJ in 2005. In one year alone, 2009, he made $6.1 million for his work with the contractor, Lockheed Martin. That's one year, he worked four other years. We don't how much he made in those years. Those numbers have never been revealed, interestingly enough. And Mr. Integrity, Comey, I don't remember him ever telling us this. And this came shortly, by the way, after the FBI, then under Comey, best friend forever, BFF Robert Mueller, granted a huge billion dollar, well, boondoggle project to Lockheed Martin that some, yes, see for what it is. And after Comey took the reins of the FBI in 2013, Robert Mueller cashed in big-time himself, started a consulting firm where he made millions of dollars representing clients he had previously doled out contracts to as the FBI director. And according to this book, two of Mueller's former clients were Facebook and Apple. Guess what? They are cooperating with the special counsel investigation. Oh, can you say conflict of interest? How is it possible you never heard about any of this before? Now, if you think this sounds sketchy, corrupt, and a little bit of financial incestuous behavior here, because it is. Now, government officials using their status, leverage -- by the way, in all fairness, it may not be nefarious, professional background experience, all while acting like irreproachable super patriots. Remember, they knew better than us who to elect in 2016. Now, we did reach out to Mueller and Comey, and they didn't respond. Shocking. In moments, we're going to cover the government's revolving door in detail. We're going to talk to Seamus Bruner and Peter Schweizer. First, let's turn to the horrific, sad tragedy that has happened in the case of Mollie Tibbetts. An illegal immigrant confessing to her murder. And today, FOX News has learned that the preliminary autopsy report is showing she was killed by sharp force injuries. And according to reports, the attorney for the murder suspect called his illegal immigrant client, quote, "an all-American kid." And just moments ago, the defense attorney gave a bizarre interview with our own Martha MacCallum. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARTHA MACCALLUM, FOX NEWS HOST, "THE STORY": We know that he is an illegal immigrant who arrived from Mexico and has lived in Iowa for four to seven years. So, I fail to see how that's irrelevant or how bringing that in is not part of the facts that surround this case. How is it not? ATTORNEY FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT: That's rhetoric. MACCALLUM: He came here illegally. It's just part of the equation. So, to say that that's bringing politics into it, I think you're putting rhetoric and point of view on it. ATTORNEY FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT: Well, you are trying to say that his state of mind was in such a way. We are dealing with an individual that has a middle school education. So, his perception is entitled to equal protection and due process. Now, you can jump to it and say these are the facts, but that does not make them facts because you say so, Martha. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Did he plead guilty today? Did this girl die? Meanwhile, some on the left, they are actually treating this tragic death of Mollie Tibbetts in what is really -- can only be described as the cruelest way possible. Last night, we showed you how one MSNBC guest called Tibbetts, quote, a girl from Iowa that FOX News talks about. And now, the rhetoric from Elizabeth Warren, frankly, just as heartless. Let's take a look at liberal compassion. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN (D), MASSACHUSETTS: I'm sorry for the family here. I know this is hard not only for the family, but for the people in her community, the people throughout Iowa. But one of the things we have to remember is we need an immigration system that is effective, that focuses on where real problems are. Last month, I went down to the border and I saw where children had been taken away from their mothers. I met with those mothers who had been lied to, who didn't know where their children were, who hadn't had a chance to talk to their children. And there was no plan for how they would be reunified with their children. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Actually, Donald Trump fixed that, Elizabeth. And where were you in the Obama years when it happened? Pretty despicable. All political. We'll have more on this horrific, horrible death later in the show. All right. Joining us now, first, with more of the government's revolving door, the author of the brand new book, "Compromised: How Money and Politics, as we've been saying, Drive FBI Corruption", associate director of research for Government Accountability Institute, Seamus Bruner. The president of the Government Accountability Institute, Peter Schweizer, he brought us the bestselling book "Clinton Cash". Look, I want to be clear. I believe in capitalism, Seamus. I believe people should be paid for their knowledge, their background, their experience. What I'm concerned about is look at the James Comey case. So, he worked for Lockheed Martin from 2005 to 2010? SEAMUS BRUNER, AUTHOR, "COMPROMISED": Correct. HANNITY: OK. Did he ever disclose all of this relationship before? Because we only have the amount of money he made for one year, that would be 2009. Is that correct? BRUNER: That's correct, although we did follow the money and found there were at least 160,000 stock options -- stock and stock options given to James Comey. At the time, 2009, that would have been worth upwards of $30 million. So, it's not just $6 million in 2009. HANNITY: I don't remember -- is this new information you have? BRUNER: No, this is in the book. And -- HANNITY: OK, because what I read, I didn't understand -- so, we know that James Comey, you are saying, made $36 million, at least, most of it in 2009? Or some of that stock could have been from earlier years, 2005 to 2009? BRUNER: Correct, from 2005 to 2009. By 2009, James Comey had over 160,000 shares of Lockheed Martin stock and 2009. HANNITY: OK. Did the top representatives, didn't they give him power of attorney to sign off on contracts, if I remember reading in your book? BRUNER: Correct. HANNITY: OK, by the way, Lockheed Martin is great. They have billions of dollars of government contracts. They're working on I guess the next generation of human identification technology, for example. BRUNER: That's correct. That, among -- many people think of Lockheed Martin as a jet manufacturer. But in fact, their I.T. and computer technology departments it is one of their largest divisions. HANNITY: OK. So -- BRUNER: Yes, no, it's great work and I want to make that clear. HANNITY: At least $36 million, but we don't know the salary for four of the five years that Comey made. Stock options and $6.1 million in one year, correct? That's what we know about, $36 million? BRUNER: That's correct. HANNITY: OK. BRUNER: And it's one of the problems with these disclosures is they're not clear. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Did Robert Mueller signed off on the other end on the FBI on these deals? Was it him? Did he approve these contracts? Did his relationship with Comey help? BRUNER: Well, we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars in these contracts, and even $1 billion. So, it's strange credulity to think that Robert Mueller did not sign off on this. HANNITY: So, this would be for the FBI. Peter, let's bring you in and let get you give some context and texture here. And again, maybe it is not nefarious at all. I don't know. That is an insane amount of money. PETER SCHWEIZER, GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY INSTITUTE PRESIDENT: It is. HANNITY: And the fact that these two guys, did they both sign off on this? SCHWEIZER: Yes. I mean, if you are the FBI director, say you are Robert Mueller or you're James Comey and your -- you have major intelligence contracts, as the FBI director, you are going to be aware of and sign off on those contracts. And the problem is, Sean, that some of these contracts are competitive, but some of them are noncompete. Even those that are competitive contracts, you get complaints, for example, IBM complained about the Lockheed Martin contract, the bidding process and how that was carried forward. It is a classic example of a crony capitalism, and as much as people might want to think that when you walk into the J. Edgar Hoover building, suddenly human nature, you are immune to human nature, it's not true. This same sort of crony capitalism and forces that affect at the Pentagon -- HANNITY: Here's my last question, because we are going to continue to do follow-ups on this. This is an important question, but it doesn't necessarily have to have to be nefarious. Did they disclose about all of this? Because I never knew about any of it, and I read a lot about these men. Did they disclose this anywhere, real quick? SCHWEIZER: No, they did not. They did minimum disclosures, only when they went into public office. They did not disclose the gaps. HANNITY: Wow. SCHWEIZER: So, there are serious gaps, and we do not know how much. HANNITY: And we need to find out about the other four years. We'll have more on this soon. Joe diGenova and David Schoen, next. (COMMERICAL BREAK) HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with more to -- reaction to our opening monologue. Civil and Criminal Defense Attorney, David Schoen, former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Joe diGenova. Joe, you heard the opening monologue. You also heard about follow the money. But let me -- let me go to the issue of Sessions. Clearly, the president feels betrayed that Sessions recused himself, did not give him a heads up that he is going to do this, which is a big deal. And clearly, Sessions, based on his comments today, doesn't like the president. If the president fires him, though, he is in a box. Everybody is going to -- I can hear it now, Saturday night massacre analogies all over the place. So, the president is in the spot. He does not have an attorney general, never had one, the biggest abuse of power case. Nothing happens on one side, but only happens about taxicab medallions and, you know, bank loan applications. JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S ATTORNEY FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA: Right. Well, the president of the United States was and is entitled to a fully- engaged attorney general. He has never had that. Jeff Sessions made a terrible mistake, besides accepting the job knowing he would have to recuse himself in the single most important matter. As soon as he became attorney general, Jeff Sessions should have had a major speech indicating what he thought about the way the Hillary Clinton case was handled and say that he was going to appoint a special counsel to investigate that case and to investigate the conduct of the people at the senior levels of the FBI and the Department of Justice. HANNITY: Why doesn't he do it? DIGENOVA: He should do it. He should do it. HANNITY: I called over today and I asked about FISA and Hillary. DIGENOVA: He should do it. He should do it today. And here's the problem: Jeff Sessions has no command presence. He doesn't understand the job that he has. He never has. It is very regrettable. But after the next election, Jeff should give the courtesy of a resignation. HANNITY: How can he not see? DIGENOVA: Because here is why, Sean. Jeff Sessions has told people that he doesn't believe that people at the Department of Justice are capable of the kinds of things that they are being accused of. He's simply refuses -- HANNITY: Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page. Read. All he got to do is read. DIGENOVA: Sean, Sean, he is blind. Jeff Sessions is blind, and he is surrounded by Rod Rosenstein, who agrees with him, and FBI Director Chris Wray, who is an empty suit, who, by the way, never said a nasty word about all of the people that were at the head of the FBI before him. He is so out of his league as FBI director. And so, what is the president presented with? Three people who don't know how to do their jobs -- Sessions, Rosenstein and Wray. HANNITY: If he fires them, it becomes, as I said -- DIGENOVA: He can't. Jeff Sessions has to be a man and resign after the next election. DAVID SCHOEN, CIVIL RIGHTS AND CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Listen, the president has the Article 2 authority to do exactly that. This is a person who serves at his will. SCHOEN: You're right. And that's -- he's being counseled on the political fallout undoubtedly. But this president has to stop being reactive and concerned about those things once and for all. He was elected to be a man of action, he was elected to serve his constituency, which is at least half of the country. He needs action in this position. HANNITY: You see, you see where we are now, I mean, these people have wanted to impeach him. We saw what they tried to do to prevent him from winning. SCHOEN: Right. HANNITY: Then he won anyway. SCHOEN: Right. HANNITY: And they still are going after him. They never stop going after him. The election in the minds of the deep state never stops. SCHOEN: But that's just the point, they are going to continue that no matter what he does or if he does nothing. That's an effort to overturn the election results through other means. HANNITY: What if we do through the election process? SCHOEN: Exactly, they can't do it through the ballot box, so. HANNITY: All right. Look, Joe, I'm a capitalist, I don't care if people make money. And frankly, if you are FBI director, that experience is worth money in the private sector. I want to be very clear. I don't know if anything nefarious has gone on. Why did I not know until I read this book, $36 million and we don't know the salary of four to five years? DIGENOVA: Because James Comey and Bob Mueller, and people like Chris Wray do one thing very well, they hide their bad faults. And Comey and Mueller are so close; they are like they came out of the same moon. This is so outrageous about the conflicts of interest that exist with Mueller. He never should have been appointed special counsel. Rosenstein knew that, he knew about all of those conflicts, and yet he did it anyway. HANNITY: But think Comey got the guy hired. He worked for Lockheed Martin, Comey is the FBI director. All this money-- (CROSSTALK) DIGENOVA: I couldn't agree with you more. I couldn't agree with you more. These politically corrupt people, the conflicts are outrageous. And as I said, after the next election, Jeff Sessions should resign and make way for a real attorney general. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We need special counsel. SCHOEN: We need a special counsel and this is-- DIGENOVA: Absolutely. SCHOEN: These folks out of office supporting each other. That's why you heard so many former officials of screaming when Brennan had his security clearance taken away when it clearly had to be taken away. DIGENOVA: Yes. SCHOEN: It is an old boys' network, and that is what President Trump threatens. HANNITY: All right. Thank you, both. When we come back, breaking news. A news breaking report from Sara Carter on the war of words between the president and the Attorney General Jeff Sessions. And also Gregg Jarrett joins us. And we'll talk to Jesse, Jessica and we'll find out who owns the world tonight. Straight ahead. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: The president is entitled to attorney general he has faith in, somebody that is qualified for the job, and I think there will come a time, sooner rather than later, where it will be time to have a new face and a fresh voice at the Department of Justice. Clearly, Attorney General Sessions doesn't have the confidence of the president. All I can say is I have a lot of respect for the attorney general, but that's an important office in the country, and after the election I think there will be some serious discussions about a new attorney general. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Senator Lindsey Graham earlier today making an often forgotten point, that the president ought to have an attorney general he has faith in, he trust. Clearly there is a crisis of confidence. Sara Carter, brand new piece out tonight entitled, quote, "Time for Sessions to leave the DOJ, senior Senate leaders say." Here with reaction, author of the number one New York Times bestseller, currently, "The Russian Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump," Gregg Jarrett, and Fox News investigative reporter and contributor, Sara Carter. Sara, we'll start with your report here. Obviously the president has lost confidence. Obviously, too, Jeff Sessions doesn't really seem to like the president. It's pretty obvious with his statement today. Obviously all of these issues, I put a series of questions in my monologue, I don't know if you heard it, but I put those to the Department of Justice today. I did get an answer, Sarah Flores their spokesperson, it's a fair answer. They don't talk about ongoing investigations or potential investigations. I get it, they don't talk about it. But we don't see anything. All we hear every minute detail about taxicabs and porn stars, and all the nonsense of bank applications, nothing about Russia campaign, Trump, 2016. Why don't we see? We know these crimes committed? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, we're left in the dark, Sean, and I think that is the biggest problem right now. Look, the relationship between President Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions is severed. It is doing more damage to the country and the administration than having him there. And I think there is going to come a point, and this is what I've been talking to sources all over Capitol Hill and even at the DOJ. There's going to be a point where Attorney General Jeff Sessions is probably going to make a decision to resign. And I think that would be the best thing for the country and for the administration. HANNITY: I've known this man for years, and I always liked him. I don't want to talk -- but I cannot believe the paralysis here. I cannot believe - - fine, if he felt the need to recuse, a, he should have told the president when he was appointed. B, he still has the ability to appoint a special counsel. This guy, we haven't heard of peep out of this guy Hoover out in Salt Lake City. You know, we got the inspector general report -- where is the special counsel here because we know that FISA court judges were lied to? We know it. We know that Clinton paid for and funneled money through a Fusion GPS, and a foreign national and Russian lies were fed to the American people. It's about Russia. Why wouldn't they concern themselves up about at least one subject dealing with Russia interference and Hillary paying for the interference? CARTER: He needs to actually come forward and speak to the American people. And I'm talking about Attorney General Jeff Sessions. We know U.S. attorney John Hubert from Utah has been charged with investigating -- remember, there are 27 leak investigations at the Department of Justice ongoing. But we're left completely in the dark, Sean. We don't know what's going on with that. Let's go back to Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, who was the national security advisor. One of the biggest breaches-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: For the delays. CARTER: Yes, one of the biggest breaches in a leak of a text cut of a conversation. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We know a crime. That's right. A crime. CARTER: A crime was committed. HANNITY: A crime was committed. CARTER: Yes. HANNITY: All right. Let me -- we know Hillary committed crimes and obstructed, Gregg. It's irrefutable. The evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible. We also know that FISA judges were lied to. Russian lies bought and paid for by Hillary, and that we know warrants were issued that if the judges knew the truth and the facts, all of the people in the so-called Department of Justice at the highest levels signed off on it, they signed off without verifying and corroborating. They are not allowed to do that. If I lied to a judge, if I deleted and destroyed evidence that was subpoenaed, you and the team of the best lawyers in the country wouldn't get me out of jail. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: It's inexplicable, it is indefensible. Jeff Sessions should have immediately reopened the Hillary Clinton e-mail case. He should have immediately launched an investigation into the law enforcers who became lawbreakers, and especially the FISA case. I mean, it is at least six different felonies to use an unverified, phony document to gain a warrant wiretap. Jeff Sessions, you know, breached the egregiously the trust of the president. He knew when he was sworn in that he was going to recuse himself. He testified before Congress, he's set it in motion the next day. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He cited the wrong law during his recusal. JARRETT: That's right. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know-- JARRETT: It makes you wonder, did he even read the regulations that he cited? He would have realized, this is counterintelligence probe and recusal is in criminal cases only. And that's one of the many things that has angered President Trump, that this is a guy who immediately upon being sworn in, breached the confidence and trust of the president. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. Let me ask you both this. We have this new book out. It exposes information I never knew about, we just found out, $36 million paid to Jim Comey, he works for Lockheed Martin. I don't know that anything nefarious, I believe in the capitalist system. You're a former FBI director, you value as high in the private sector, I agree with that. But then the contracts with Lockheed Martin and they get billions of contracts, they are going through Mueller's FBI. Did either of you hear about this before tonight? JARRETT: Well, I heard about it about 10 days ago because I got an advance copy of the book. HANNITY: OK. JARRETT: And it's-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Exactly. JARRETT: I mean, but it's stunning to me. This is a revolving door of government service and big business in which people like James Comey are enriching themselves by trading on and leveraging their friendship. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Don't you think he should have known that? Sara, shouldn't we have heard -- 36, by the way, we still don't know the four other years. (CROSSTALK) CARTER: You would think there would be some kind of -- that's right. And you think -- you think there would be some kind of disclosure, Sean. I mean, this is what we saw in the Pentagon for so long with research and development, with R&D this revolving door going back and forth, and people pocketing money for their friends. And basically, slowing down the process of research and development. And here with Comey, we see it happening with the FBI. We also see it happening at State Department. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Why don't they have to disclose these relationships? Why don't have -- that's a serious amount of money. CARTER: It is. HANNITY: And I want to know maybe he will disclose tomorrow the other four years that he worked for Lockheed Martin so we can get the full picture. How many other stock options might he have gotten? (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: It should be against the law for a government official like Mueller to lavish a no-bid contract on a company that a longtime friend and ally is working. HANNITY: Are you sure it's no bid? CARTER: That's right. JARRETT: According to the book. HANNITY: Wow. It's unbelievable. CARTER: Understand. HANNITY: All right. Keep up the good work. CARTER: Thank you. HANNITY: And be careful about late night, early morning knocks on your door. When you tell the truth in America, apparently that's a problem. Thank you both. When we come back, President Trump slamming Democrats over illegal immigration and border security following the murder of Iowa college student, this young woman, Mollie Tibbetts. Jesse and Jessica, they're next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Mollie was this beautiful young girl. Who the father, I watch the father, he kept saying, I sort of doubt it was going to happen, she is coming back, she just left, but she is coming back. And I'd say that's called hope. And it is a beautiful thing, in a way. It's hope. But now there is no hope. She was killed by a horrible person that came in from Mexico, illegally here. The immigration laws are horrible. We are doing an incredible job, we're doing a record-breaking job, but we have bad laws. You know, when you have bad laws, you can do good book, but you can do a lot better if you have good laws. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The president yesterday calling for better immigration laws following the murder of Mollie Tibbetts, it was the latest heartbreaking death at the hands of an illegal immigrant. Joining us now with reaction, he has two shows, the co-host of The Five and host of Watters World, Jesse Watters, Fox News contributor, Jessica Tarlov. Good to see you both. I don't even know what to say. Kate Steinle -- I sat through having gone down to the border 12 times. Rio Grande, San Diego, drug warehouses, horseback, all-terrain vehicles, helicopters, boats. OK, I've seen it all. Been there when gang members were arrested. And human trafficking and drug trafficking continues. Then we have Kate Steinle. Then we have this case, 642,000 Texans in a seven-year period, victims of crime. It goes from murder, it goes all the way down to petty crimes. Why don't we build the wall? Why do Democrats -- he, the president offered that these kids, the DREAMer's stay. Build the wall. Why didn't he take that deal? JESSICA TARLOV, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Senator Schumer did offer a deal that would have gotten him money for his border wall and he turned it down. HANNITY: No. TARLOV: Yes. HANNITY: Full funding for the wall? TARLOV: It didn't have the 25 billion-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Hold on, full funding for the wall, you get the DREAMers that they care about. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: There are a number of Republicans who even -- yes, of course. Apparently both sides care about DREAMers, which is nice. But President Trump only wants this on his terms. He wants an immigration system, a merit-based immigration system, to match with the lottery system, to do a lot of things that Democrats are-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Is it wrong to vet people that want to come here? TARLOV: No. Of course it's not wrong to vet people. HANNITY: We should vet every person that comes here. TARLOV: Yes, we absolutely should. JESSE WATTERS, FOX NEWS HOST: Well, I mean, that's a big difference from the open borders talk we've been hearing from your party. And the reason we didn't get the funding we have the crying Schumer shut down. Remember what happened there? My point is if people keep breaking into your house, Jessica, what would you do about it? TARLOV: I would lock my door, Jesse. WATTERS: So why don't you want the country to lock its doors? TARLOV: The doors to the country are pretty well locked. We-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: Not locked enough. Look at Mollie Tibbetts. TARLOV: Forty percent here at-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: Mollie Tibbetts died because the country's doors were not protected. TARLOV: It is a tragedy what happened to Mollie Tibbetts, no one should take that lightly. Anyone who is taking that lightly-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You didn't -- hold on. You didn't answer Jesse's question. TARLOV: But I-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Hold on. It's the most important question. You would lock your doors. We don't have our doors locked. TARLOV: Well, first of all, there are a number of people, including Republicans who are even from border states who do not take that the-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Answer Jesse's question though. It's an important question. TARLOV: I did. I think that we can't look at this. There are Democrats who are saying that we should look at it. But you're also-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: Democrats are saying they want to abolish ICE. Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Kirsten Gillibrand, they want to get rid of ICE. TARLOV: No one is abolishing ICE. WATTERS: If you get rid of ICE you get rid of the protection in America's- - (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: And ICE was created in 2003. You are acting like that like "get rid of the army." WATTERS: Well, why Democrats want to abolish an agency? I mean, usually they want to build up the government. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: If you want to talk about this then-- WATTERS: But the one thing they want to get rid of it is the one thing that keeps us safe. They called ICE members Nazis the other day, and ICE literally just deported a Nazi back to Germany. TARLOV: I have not said that I want to abolish ICE. I think it is fantastic when we deport any-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Jessica, you are deflecting. TARLOV: No, I'm not. HANNITY: No. OK. He's pointing out specific names of Democrats that do want to abolish ICE. TARLOV: Yes. HANNITY: They want open borders. They don't want to fund the wall which means that the DREAMers don't-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: They don't want open borders. That thing-- HANNITY: No. Then if you don't have the wall then how do you protect the border? TARLOV: No, I actually don't believe that. Well, you have all the border agents that you have the gang of eight bill that's actually was going to put more border agents. (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: Five million border agents along every wild of the wall. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Well, that would be a lot of jobs for President Trump. I think that the main issue here is that-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: I think we have gotten a lot more jobs than President Trump than President Obama also. TARLOV: Well, that's actually not true. WATTERS: And I think the job we need to do is secure the border. That is the federal government's most important job, and it failed. And Washington politicians have blood on their hands. Jamiel Shaw, Kate Steinle, Mollie Tibbetts, when is enough, enough? TARLOV: Enough is enough right now. And enough is enough-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: So from the border wall-- TARLOV: It's not just that. HANNITY: Hey, Jessica. Repeat after me, build that wall. TARLOV: No, absolutely not. I'd like to talk about statistics for a second. WATTERS: That's not a good area for you. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: The illegal -- yes it is. Why? The illegal immigrant population in the country commits far less crime than natural born citizens. The demonization-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: We should-- TARLOV: No, there isn't. WATTERS: We should fight crimes based on who commits. HANNITY: By the way, where did you get the statistics from? Where, where did you get first? WATTERS: Sean, you know-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: There's a chart-- HANNITY: According to who? TARLOV: That one comes right out of the Washington Post. WATTERS: Sean-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The Washington Post. TARLOV: What does that mean? Does the Washington Post-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: That's why female spin less than males, so we should look the other way. TARLOV: You guys, if we were having this conversation after a school shooting-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I've got to leave. TARLOV: -- you guys would not care at all. No changes to be made. HANNITY: Hang on. guys, it's too sensitive a topic, no winners tonight. Thank you both for being with us. Campus Reform asking new Yorkers what they think about Cuomo's dumb comment. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. In light of new or Governor Cuomo's recent comments in America was never great, Campus Reform set out to see whether the people of New York agree with him. Here's what they said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Governor Cuomo came out here in New York at an event and said that the slogan make America great again is flawed because it implies that America was great at some point, so we've been asking people their take. Do you think America has never been truly great? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't believe America has been great for all folks ever, even today. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would have to agree with Governor Cuomo. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you point to a time or do you think there was a time when America was great? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, not particularly. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The idea that there was a once great America is pointing towards this false sense of nationalism that, you know, talking about white America. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it has been great for straight white for a very long time. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think that there is a time you can point to where America was great? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't know. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No country is perfect. No country ever has been. But there's never been a country that accumulated more power, abused it less, and use that power to advance humankind than the United States. Jason Chaffetz in for Laura. All right. Load-Date: August 24, 2018 End of Document President Trump Slams Attorney General Jeff Sessions over the Department of Justice and Sessions Responds; Immunity Granted to National Enquirer Boss over Michael Cohen's Case; Clinton E-mails in Weiner's Laptop Was Not Examined Thoroughly by FBI; Spotlight on Illegal Immigration over the Senseless Death of Mollie Tibbetts; Education Secretary Reportedly Considering Plan to Arm School Teachers; Hurricane Approaches Hawaii; Levels of Public Assistance During Low Unemployment Examined; Interview with Former Congressman Aaron Schock Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST August 23, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8572 words Byline: Jason Chaffetz, Matt Schlapp, Doug Schoen, Tom Homan, Rick Reichmuth Guests: Chris Hahn, David Bossi, Paul Sperry, Allen Orr, Igor Volsky, Laura Carno, David Burstein, Aaron Schock Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: That there has never been a country that accumulated more power, abused it less and use that power to advance human kind in the United States. Jason Chaffetz, in for Laura. All right, what's up with the -- is there ever been a country that has accumulated more power -- nobody is perfect -- abused it less and used it, Congressman, for the advancement of humankind and paid a huge, massive price, feeding back the forces of fascism and Nazism and communism and imperial Japan, et cetera ? JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS HOST: It is one of the most offensive things, just to hear people try to take that on because the United States of America is the greatest country on the face of the planet and the men and women over the last couple hundred years protecting us from freedom and fighting back tyranny. I can't thank them enough. And these yahoos over here just -- HANNITY: Amen. Would we get the same comments from Utah? I don't think so. All right. Good to see you're in great hands. Let not your heart be troubled. Congressman, take it away. CHAFFETZ: Thank you Sean. Good evening and welcome to |THE INGRAHAM ANGLE here in New York City. I am Jason Chaffetz filling in for Laura Ingraham who is on vacation. The news cycle never stops and tonight is clearly no exception. The left's latest immigration meltdown, the possibility of arming teachers in the classroom. A monster hurricane headed to Hawaii and a Capitol Hill corruption. Plus a new bombshell story on James Comey's botched investigation of Hillary Clinton. The report's author will be here and you don't want to miss this. You won't believe what he has to say. But first, another wild day between President Trump and the Department of Justice. It got started with President Trump's comments on Attorney General Jeff Sessions on "Fox & Friends." (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The Dems are very strong in the Justice Department. I put in an attorney general that never took control of the Justice Department, Jeff Sessions. Never took control of the Justice Department and it sort of an incredible thing. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Jeff Sessions quickly fired back in a statement that said, "I took control of the Department of Justice the day I was sworn in, which is why we have had unprecedented success at effectuating the president's agenda. While I am Attorney General, the actions of the Department of Justice will not be improperly influenced by political considerations. I demand the highest standards, and where they are not met, I take action." Pretty bold from the attorney general, but in my opinion, not necessarily accurate. In another development, Fox News today confirmed the Department of Justice prosecutors in Manhattan have granted immunity to David Pecker. He's the CEO of the company that publishes the "National Enquirer." He reportedly has insider knowledge of the payments that went to Karen McDougal and Stormy Daniels in exchange for their silence about alleged affairs with President Trump. And breaking just moments ago, "The New York Times" has a report that says the Manhattan district attorney is considering charges against the Trump organization and two senior company officials related to the payments to Stormy Daniels. That's important because President Trump has no power to pardon individuals convicted of state crimes. Joining me now to make sense of all this, Chris Hahn, a radio talk show host and former aide to Senator Chuck Schumer, Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union, and David Bossi, former deputy chairman of the Trump campaign. Gentlemen, thank you for joining us tonight. David, I want to start with you because the attorney general went out of his way to say he was never influenced by any political consideration but I think, correct me if I'm wrong, one of the first things he did is make a political consideration to recuse himself on a case that he really did need to do it because of political considerations. Correct? DAVID BOSSI, FORMER DEPUTY CHAIRMAN, TRUMP CAMPAIGN: That's exactly right, Jason. And that bad decision by the attorney general to recuse himself has borne out this incredible witch hunt that the president has had to live through over the last 18 months, incredibly unfair to the American people. Look, this investigation has been going on almost two years, cost the American taxpayer over $25 million bucks. We were investigating Russian collusion, now we are down to the "National Enquirer." I think this is an unbelievable turn of events. And look, the attorney general is a good man. However, the president is frustrated by the attorney general's decision, and you look at who still works there. Bruce Ohr. Bruce Ohr is the number four person at the Department of Justice and he was helping his wife do opposition research on President Trump during the 2016 campaign. So, tat's why this president is frustrated. He feels and he sees the double standard between the Department of Justice and the Clintons and his Department of Justice. CHAFFETZ: So Chris, are you suddenly a fan of Attorney General Sessions? Are you in his corner, rooting him on now at this point? CHRIS HAHN, FORMER AIDE TO SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER: Well, you know, prior to this, I have never agreed with Jefferson Sessions once. I disagree with him on about 75 different fronts, but when all is said and all is done, Jefferson Sessions has the least, Donald Trump has none. So on this issue, I am with him and he should steadfast and be true to the office he has taken right now -- CHAFFETZ: Do you really think that he -- do you really think -- HAHN: -- a political influence. CHAFFETZ: -- but do you really believe that he had to recuse himself? This is a counterintelligence operation. There is nothing that he had to recuse himself from. It was not a criminal investigation. HAHN: He most certainly did because you recuse yourself when there is an appearance of a conflict. He had absolutely an appearance of a conflict -- CHAFFETZ: OK, so Chris, Chris. Then why doesn't Rod Rosenstein recuse himself and why doesn't James Comey come forward with all of the conflicts of interest? If that is the standard then -- Rod Rosenstein 's name is on the FISA report, the subject of an investigation. HAHN: Because the president is -- look, the president is making it up, and if we had a Congress that was half as interested as you were when you were chair of the House Oversight Committee on who wrote the talking points, who were interested in the felonies that might've happened in New York. Not to mention what the Trump organization and the Trump Foundation has done. We would have investigations going in Congress. Congress is hapless right now, Jason. When you were chair of that committee, you investigated. I think you would be investigating right now unless you were just -- CHAFFETZ: Yes, you know what. You know why Congress is hapless? This attorney general does nothing to provide the documents that Congress has issued subpoenas to. Matt, come on in here and give us your perspective on this because this attorney general is there in name only. I think he's one of the most feckless, ineffective attorney general's this country has ever had, but what's your read on it? MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: Jason, I understand where you're coming from. I am a big fan of Jeff Sessions but I feel like for the last year and a half it's been one of the most painful things to watch and the saddest thing at all is, you know, the president has amazing fortitude and pushing through his agenda, but it was two decisions that Jeff Sessions made that have really caused all of this drama over the course of the last year and a half. One, picking Rod Rosenstein, someone who doesn't believe in the president and doesn't believe in his agenda as the number two man at Justice. That is a big mistake. Personnel and his policy, and that was a disaster. Number two, if he was going to recuse himself -- CHAFFETZ: -- for justice not the president. SCHLAPP: If he was going to recuse -- no, he's there for all of us. If he was going to recuse himself from this investigation then turning it over to someone like Rod Rosenstein, you would've immediately known that that was going to be a mistake because Rod Rosenstein, by his own voice said, look, I'm not really very partisan. I just want to kind of help you run the agency. So those two decisions are why Jeff Sessions is in the position he's in. And Jason, it's not fixable. There's nothing that can be done to fix this situation. We need someone running DOJ who can handle this situation and also have the confidence of the president. CHAFFETZ: David, two quick questions. Do you believe that Rod Rosenstein needs to recuse himself because his name is on the FISA document, which is the subject of the investigation? And number two, do you believe that there should be a second special counsel? BOSSI: I believe there needs to be another investigation into what happened within the Department of Justice and the FBI. Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, all of what happened under James Comey's watch, you know, how this investigation was dealt with differently than Hillary Clinton's investigation, the double standard and the political nature within the FBI. You could say that all you want but those are the facts and that's what the American people believe. They believe -- HAHN: Come on David, they're just flexing (ph). BOSSI: They believe that the mainstream media -- HAHN: No, no they don't. BOSSI: They believe the mainstream is biased against this president, because they are. Yesterday, just yesterday, 225 times -- HAHN: No they're not. BOSSI: -- MSNBC and CNN talked about impeachment. It is outrageous. It is outrageous on its face where we have gone as a country. HAHN: Yes. Obstruction of justice and committing felonies are things that the Congress should be looking into right now. This sort of thing actually happened. BOSSI: Yes, there is no facts to even -- CHAFFETZ: Chris. What is it that you think that -- HAHN: There is no fact except for somebody swearing to it in court. BOSSI: No, no, no. CHAFFETZ: Gentlemen -- gentlemen -- timeout. One at a time. Chris, what is it -- I assume you're on the bandwagon that says we should impeach Donald Trump. Yes, no? HAHN: No. I believe in justice. CHAFFETZ: All right, so you don't think -- HAHN: Hold on a minute. I believe in getting to the truth, and if we get to a truth that says the president committed a felony, then we can talk about impeachment. Until that time, we can't. I also say this Jason, you can't just have a partisan impeachment. It has to be a bipartisan thing. CHAFFETZ: That's right. HAHN: Republicans and Democrats have to agree. CHAFFETZ: That's right. That's right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jason, if I could -- if I could get -- CHAFFETZ: I got to remind everybody. (CROSSTALK) SCHLAPP: I want to remind -- it's going to be OK, Chris. I want to remind everybody how this all got started. It all got started, even if you want to give the officials at DOJ a little bit of credit, and if you are Trump then you want to give me just a little bit of credit. It was all about finding as fast as we could, whether or not there was collusion with Putin's government. We are talking about the lifestyles of the rich and famous and we are talking about squashing bad stories that can harm a reputation. It has nothing to do with collusion. It has nothing to do with Russia. The American people are repulsed by all of this. CHAFFETZ: David, David. (CROSSTALK) CHAFFETZ: Gentlemen. David, are you concerned that immunity is given to a member of the media? Now, people will scoff at the "National Enquirer" and say oh, it's the "National Enquirer" but you don't hear very often the Department of Justice grants immunity to a news organization. I mean, there are certain times, when you go and talk to your attorney, you get attorney-client privilege. When you talk to your doctor, you expect for those medical records will be. And when you provide information or talk to a member of the media off the record, there is some sanctity there, isn't there? BOSSI: There absolutely should be and we don't know. It's all hypothetical what David Pecker may or may not know and why he got that immunity deal. However, usually law enforcement get something in return for that immunity deal. But if you look at Cheryl Mills and Samuelson, Hillary Clinton's lawyers, OK. You remember this very well. That they got immunity in their deals and gave nothing in return and there were no charge. CHAFFETZ: Five got immunity. The closest to Hillary Clinton and they got nothing out of it. Chris, you get the last word before we wrap up. HAHN: Well -- well -- well, I think we all want to know what's in David Pecker's safe because that could be very interesting to the American people and I wish -- SCHLAPP: Like Geraldo. HAHN: -- that Congress (inaudible) figuring this out as you were when you were there. (CROSSTALK) CHAFFETZ: Gentlemen, thank you. I appreciated the spirit in the debate. I appreciate all being here. But Chris I want you to stick around like I want everybody else on this broadcast to stick around because this will shock you. A bombshell report put out by RealClear Investigations that says despite what James Comey said, the FBI failed to look at the vast majority of the e-mails on Anthony Weiner's laptop, which had thousands of Hillary Clinton's State Department e-mails on it. Joining me now to explain further is the author of that report, investigative journalist for RealClear Investigations.com, Paul Sperry. Paul, thanks for being here. I'm fascinated at this because actually, the letter that went to Congress explaining this was a letter that came to me when I was the chairman of the oversight committee. So tell me what you found out now about the reality. PAUL SPERRY, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST, REALCLEAR INVESTIGATIONS.COM: That's right. So James Comey told Congress that they had reviewed all of the Clinton e-mails, hundreds of thousands that were found on the Weiner laptop. But that was not true. They barely looked at any of themt. Just 3,000 out of 700,000 were actually individually examined. CHAFFETZ: Wait, wait, wait. They looked at how many? SPERRY: Three thousand of potentially relevant 700,000 e-mails were actually individually examined for classified information and incriminating evidence. CHAFFETZ: Well, I mean, it did shock us, right? It was days. They told us they're looking into this and then days later they somehow reviewed 700,000 documents? How many people actually were --, do you have any idea how many people are actually working on this case and looking at these documents? SPERRY: I was just going to mention that Peter Strzok, the disgraced agent who was in charge of the investigation into the Clinton e-mails, he personally handpicked that 3,000 sample. And with two other investigators, they went through them all supposedly and pulled an all-nighter, ordered pizza, and said nothing new here. Case closed once again. CHAFFETZ: So, I've got to tell you, as the former chairman of the committee, as a former member of Congress, I mean, how can that be anything other than the director of the FBI lying to Congress and misleading us? SPERRY: Well, he also swore under oath that he had this story that there was this miraculous breakthrough in technology that allowed the FBI to process the Weiner laptop for evidence rapidly and it turns out that doesn't pass the smell test. That didn't check out either. It turns out there was a technical glitch that thwarted that effort. And I was going to say -- I was going to mention that, Jason, when you were on oversight, you're probably wondering the same thing. How in the world can they get through this mountain of evidence in just days when after Comey gave you the final all clear on Hillary? CHAFFETZ: So now that you have unveiled or figured out what's going on with this information, where does this case go next? Is anybody investigating this? You have Michael Horowitz, who is the inspector general for the Department of Justice. I wonder if he's looking at it. And if you have Attorney General Sessions, just today said that he's only operates, you know, without any political influence. Is the attorney general himself looking at this and line to Congress? SPERRY: Well, this evidence that is, really has been covered up on this laptop, this Weiner laptop, it is still relevant in the Clinton Foundation probe especially, which is still ongoing, and you know, the whole thing raises more suspicion that the FBI politicized these investigations during the election. And it just begs for an outside, independent prosecutor to go back through this evidence, through these e-mails, and see if the FBI was trying to cover up material evidence in this case. CHAFFETZ: Listen, I really appreciate your good investigative work there. We were always scratching our heads in Congress, the fact that you have unveiled this, it does demand I think the Inspector General, the Attorney General himself, and potentially I would advocate s second special prosecutor to look at this. SPERRY: Absolutely. CHAFFETZ: There was no possible way that that was happening. It creates more legal jeopardy I think for James Comey and it really is a shocking revelation that not only did they use Peter Strzok to look at that information, but has handpicked people and, you know, ordered late night pizza. But, come on, the disgraced Peter Strzok at this point, that makes absolutely no sense. Paul, I thank you for your good work and coming on this program to share this with us. SPERRY: My pleasure. Thank you. CHAFFETZ: The attorney for the illegal immigrant alleged to have murdered Mollie Tibbetts speaks out. You won't believe it what he had to say. We will play the tape, next. CHAFFETZ: Cristhian Rivera stands charged for the murder of 20-year-old Iowa University student Mollie Tibbetts. Rivera's attorney sat down for an interview with Fox' Martha MacCallum tonight, where he didn't seem to care that his client is an illegal immigrant. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALLEN RICHARDS, CRISTHIAN RIVERA'S ATTORNEY: The United States constitution provides if you are not a citizen, you still are entitled to the jurisdictions of the courts and entitled to equal protection under the law, and so to bring up the fact of -- MARTHA MACCALLUM, FOX NEWS HOST: I don't think anyone said he wasn't. But everyone -- what people are saying is that he arrived here illegally from Mexico four to seven years ago. RICHARDS: That is your rhetoric on it. I'm part of an agrarian society -- MACCALLUM: It is not rhetoric. That's what the immigration officials are saying their reports indicate. He used a false name to work for an employer. They thought he was somebody else. We know that as well. These are the facts that are being dug up in the case. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Martha is exactly right. Joining me now with reactions are Tom Homan, a Fox News contributor, and the former acting director of ICE and immigration attorney Allen Orr. Allen, is it a legitimate question or subject for us to discuss if somebody is here legally or illegally? ALLEN ORR, IMMIGRATION LAWYER: I think it is if we are dealing with a matter of immigration, if we're immigration court or immigration proceeding. But I think what the family has said in this situation and also with the lawsuit (inaudible) in the way this case is being handled, that the fact that this person is undocumented is not an essential part of this actual criminal activity. So, therefore, whether he was -- CHAFFETZ: But Allen, don't you believe, if he was unable to get here, if he had come legally and lawfully, he may not ever come here. The fact that he was here and is illegal -- Mollie would be alive if he weren't in this country. Do you believe that or not believe that? ORR: First of all, this is an absolute tragedy and I offer my condolences to the family. And the possibility of changing what actually happened, no one can do those circumstances so I'm not going to play that game of what if -- CHAFFETZ: It's not a game. It's not a game. See, when people are here illegally and they commit a crime, I really do believe that that crime wouldn't have been committed because they wouldn't have been here. Is that logical? ORR: I'm a philosophy major. No, it's not a logical answer. CHAFFETZ: It's not a philosophy. It's logic. ORR: It's not a logical answer, no. There are endless possibilities of things that could've happened so, no, that is not a logical answer -- CHAFFETZ: Yes, and she would gone running and he would have been in Mexico, right? ORR: We're saying in this specific occurrence. CHAFFETZ: Yes, in this specific case, where a young woman going to college, about to enter her junior year is murdered. You are telling me that's not relevant? ORR: I'm uncertain if you're asking me if the immigration status is relevant. It is not relevant. CHAFFETZ: Yes, it is because he wouldn't have been in this country. ORR: What is relevant is the individual and those individual actions which have been discussed clearly in the criminal case. CHAFFETZ: His actions of coming here illegally ultimately led to her being killed by this person. That is the allegation. We'll see if it's true, but that's the allegation. Tom, you have dedicated -- ORR: That's a fallacy of causation. That's a fallacy of causation because he was here for four years with no problem. He worked at a farm. CHAFFETZ: We don't know that. We don't know that yet. Hold on. I want to bring in Tom. Tom spent a lifetime in law enforcement protecting us and getting rid of some of the most nefarious criminals that are out there. Tom, what is your take on this? TOM HOMAN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I think my friend Allen here is way wrong on this and you are right. Look, fact, he was in the country illegally. Fact, if he wasn't here, this girl would be alive today. That's just a fact of the case. It's not a philosophy. It's a fact. This girl is dead today because he killed her and he was here illegally. If he wasn't been here, if we had a border wall, if we had real border enforcement, maybe he wouldn't have been here. So, it's stone cold fact. CHAFFETZ: Let me play a clip here of a candidate for the United States Senate. A person who us running against Ted Cruz. Oh, sorry. OK, we don't have this clip. But we have a lot of people that are saying hey, we should decriminalize this. Essentially open borders. We want to abolish ICE. Allen, where do you stand on those two issues? ORR: Right. So first, the abolish ICE Movement as well as decriminalization of immigration are totally separate issues and I want to be very clear. CHAFFETZ: Yes, they are separate, but go ahead. ORR: -- very clear earlier, saying that his immigration status had nothing to do with the crime and what happened in that occurrence. So what is not important or what's super important in the story -- CHAFFETZ: I'm going to keep arguing. Allen, I'm not going to let you get away with that. I'm going to keep arguing, because if he didn't come here illegally, then he wouldn't have committed this crime. And you think that's a philosophy? I think that's just a fact. ORR: No, I'm saying it's a fallacy of causation. You are sort of saying because he was illegal, he committed the crime. And which is not the case. This is an individual -- CHAFFETZ: If somebody -- Allen -- Allen, if somebody breaks into your home and then murders you, what do you think would happen if he didn't break into your home? ORR: Right, so these kinds of arguments, these equivocation's, the straw man arguments aren't useful to the conversation. CHAFFETZ: It's not a straw man. We have a dead woman. ORR: And it is a tragedy for the family and they've asked that her death not be political issues based on this because they understand -- CHAFFETZ: It's the number one issue facing voters. Tom, jump in here. ORR: An individual's actions does not represent the whole community of immigrants in this country so therefore that -- CHAFFETZ: I didn't say that, but you're -- no, look, I'm not going to let you get away with that either. There's a difference between immigrants and illegal immigrants. Tom, explain the difference. HOMAN: Look, immigrants are people here legally. Illegal alien, which is the term in the law books, illegal aliens are here illegally. Look, the bottomline is that the comment Allen just made that the family don't want this politicized, look, illegal immigration has been a political issue for decades. It's emotional. But look, fact, about two hours ago, I got a text, actually e-mail from Don Rosenberg, an angel dad in California, who talked about this case and talked about L.A. editorial where they talked about politicizing these deaths. Don Rosenberg reminded me. He was Tom, everyone of us, as angel families, we want the president to speak about this. We've been speaking about this for a long time but we never had the voice until President Trump got to be president. He created the voice to all the victims of immigration crime at ICE. So, here is an angel dad (inaudible) to me toady, which is a coincidence we're having this interview tonight saying we want a voice. We want American people to understand the tragedy. We have children that's been killed by illegal aliens and we need to talk about it. CHAFFETZ: So Allen, let me ask you -- ORR: We should talk about this in video people. CHAFFETZ: Yes, Allen, I got to show some video. ORR: OK. CHAFFETZ: There are those of us that believe in the wall and believe we should lock down the border. And down on the southern border, there's this video which hopefully will come up on the screen as we're speaking, of what was going on at a KFC. There was a tunnel going into this kfc which was providing this conduit. This is the KFC. This kind of reminds me of "Breaking Bad" and how they were moving drugs through. This is the tunnel that's moving through. So, do you advocate for open borders or do you think that we need more resources, more funds and more resources to lockdown that border particularly in our southern border, Allen? ORR: I don't think anyone is sort of arguing for open borders. And the point that you're bringing about right now, I'm glad that we're talking about the story is because that's exactly the issue. That ICE really should be focused on these types of issues rather than separating families and children at the border. (CROSSTALK) ORR: -- for these major crimes. HOMAN: Border patrol separated families, not ICE and I support the border patrol doing that because they would stay with that, the numbers were already down by 20 percent. This (inaudible) that did it. It should have stuck with another 30 days and this problem would have been solved. Decriminalizing illegal immigration is going to result in more illegal immigrants coming to this country. That's just a fact. CHAFFETZ: Gentlemen, thank you. And the reality is if you put up a wall, you're not going to separate families because they are not going to get in this country in the first place. Well more -- thank you and I appreciate you gentlemen being here. I really do appreciate it. More left-wing outraged tonight, this time over a report that the Trump administration is considering using federal funds to help arm teachers in the classroom. We will debate it next. CHAFFETZ: According to "The New York Times," Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos is considering a plan that would provide federal funding to help arm teachers. Predictably, the left reacted with outrage. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHUCK SCHUMER, (D) SENATE MINORITY LEADER: Teachers don't want guns. They know it makes them a target if, God forbid, a shooter comes into the school. And now DeVos wants to take federal funds away from instruction so that the school district can buy guns for teachers? What is that all about? (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Senator Schumer knows not what he says, nor is he giving a proper representation of what the secretaries is trying to do. But joining me now for a debate is Guns Down executive director Igor Volsky, and Laura Carno, founder of Faster Colorado. I thank you both for being here. Igor, I get the idea that you advocate and don't want any guns at any schools. And I wish the bad guys wouldn't bring guns into schools or really anywhere. IGOR VOLSKY, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, GUNS DOWN: Look, we are on the same page. I think we should have a country with fewer guns, a country where guns are significantly -- CHAFFETZ: That's where we are on a different page. VOLSKY: -- a safer country. Look at us, same page, Jason. CHAFFETZ: I think your utopia that you describe is just fiction, and it's not reality. So let's pretend that somebody does bring a gun into school, then what do you advocate? VOLSKY: Well, I mean if somebody brings a gun into a school, that situation should be dealt with. But what we know is -- CHAFFETZ: But how? VOLSKY: It depends on what happened. If somebody reports the student come he's going to be dealt with that way. If he starts some kind of incident, certainly police are going to be called. But in terms of arming teachers, right, which is the question here, what we have seen time and time and time again is that individuals who are carrying firearms do not respond well in an active shooting situation. The adrenaline that run through your body in those moments, without the proper training that professionals have in this field, you're not going to be able to handle this well, and oftentimes innocent people get hurt. So this correlation between -- CHAFFETZ: Do you think more innocent people get hurt if there is nobody -- wait, wait. Is there more people getting potentially hurt if there is no resistance, or if there is somebody who is there to protect maybe themselves and their kids? VOLSKY: The FBI actually looked at this very question. They looked from 2000 to 2013 at active shooting situations, and they actually found that unarmed individuals were far more successful at disarming the intruder than armed people. So we have data on this. CHAFFETZ: You know what, if I've got a guy with a gun in my school, I want to have a gun with me, too. Laura, let's go your perspective, because Faster Colorado, you dedicated part of your career here you're your efforts to actually help engage teachers. How would you see this working? LAURA CARNO, FASTER COLORADO: Yes, and it's working today. We've got hundreds of armed school staff already in Colorado and thousands across the country. And what it comes down to is these are school staff, teachers, janitors, whoever. They would die to protect their kids. And in all of these school shootings you see they are dying to protect kids. They can protect kids and live and be able to save kids and go back to their own families. And we hear a lot of these statistics. They are not completely accurate. What we do know is that when somebody is there on scene to stop the killer as close as possible to where he starts his crime, fewer people are hurt or die. The alternative is you have to wait for law enforcement. And if it's even three minutes, most of these things are over in three to five minutes. It's a lot people dying with nobody there to stop a shooter. CHAFFETZ: And Igor, this is where I think you're wrong, because it will take law enforcement even just a few minutes, and the carnage that can ensue is just so wrong. When I went to school in Middle Park in Granby, Colorado, a small school, I had Coach Schmidt. Guess what, Coach Schmidt knew more about guns than probably anybody I've ever met and know. And him wielding a gun or having a little sidearm I think would have made us a lot safer. Guns aren't for everybody. You have got to have an aptitude and a desire, but nobody is suggesting that every teacher do this. What's wrong with Coach Schmidt having a gun in the school? VOLSKY: If that coach has the right amount of training maybe we can think about it. But I think we can all agree that guns are too easy to get in this country, that we should work on making sure -- CHAFFETZ: No, I disagree with you. I disagree with you. VOLSKY: -- that that guy never gets into the school. We've got to make guns harder to get, because all the data shows us that fewer guns means safer communities. And you talk a utopia. All other high income countries -- CHAFFETZ: Look at what's going on in Chicago. Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws out there. VOLSKY: I'm happy to talk about Chicago, but you are the one who brought up a utopia, this idea where you can live in a gun violence free world. And I'm telling you nations around the world are living that utopia, and they're living it because they have fewer guns because guns are harder to get. CHAFFETZ: OK, Laura, how do we best protect our kids? What's the right thing, what is the right policy for schools? VOLSKY: We protect our kids the way we protect our families. And people can make decisions to have a school that doesn't have armed staff and does have armed staff, and parents can choose. But for my kids, for my grandkids, I want somebody there who can stop whatever happens, whether it's a fire, whatever other danger, including active killers. And what we know about active killers, Jason, is that the next one is out there. He's already planning his crime. No amount of gun control is going to stop him. So what are we going to do when he comes to the door of the school, gets into the school, like we keep seeing? Somebody has to be there to stop him or we are going to see more kids die and more school staff die. And you're right. We've got janitors who are all over the school, coaches, they are all over the school. There are lots of folks. And in my training program, we see them. They are all volunteers. They raise their hand and they say pick me to save kids. That's what we should be looking at. CHAFFETZ: We've got a lot of former military people. We have got a lot of former policeman that should be involved and engaged. I think the right answer is not for everyone, but those that are trained and those with an aptitude I think should be in those schools and it will make the schools safer. I thank you both for your passion on this issue and coming on the air to discuss it tonight. Some troubling new data about welfare use in this country, plus hurricane Lane is barreling into Hawaii, one of my favorite places on the planet. We have new development on its track. It's coming up next. CHAFFETZ: Trouble in paradise, Hurricane Lane is steadily making its way to Hawaii. Fox News chief meteorologist Rick Reichmuth is here with the new details. Rick? RICK REICHMUTH, FOX NEWS METEOROLOGIST: Jason, yes, so take a look at the radar picture here and you get the idea. We have got rain falling heavily on the Big Island. In fact we've got about 18 inches in some spots on the eastern side of the island, incredible flooding going on already, and a lot more rain to go. But Maui, Oahu, Kauai, everybody already getting in on some of it. And here on the radar, you can see that. That's the center of this storm. The center of the storm likely won't cross landfall. I say likely. We can't fully rule it out just yet. But because of just the trajectory this storm has taken, it's going to be impacting Hawaii for a long time. Came to the south of it, made this northerly turn, and it's going to make a west turn, likely before moving across parts of the islands, at least the center of it. But that means we just have a long time, it's a long duration storm, and because of that, its longer duration with that rain. The rainfall totals will pileup as will the flooding. It's down to a category three so the center of the storm doesn't have as strong winds as it did before. We expected that to happen. The farther north, it's going to encounter some shear, break apart a little bit. Still though, take a look at this. This is Friday morning, Saturday morning. We're somewhere here passed Oahu. By Sunday morning it's likely past the island chain, but that is about two-and-a-half days. So two-and-a-half more days of rain that we have got to deal with. These are the models that we look at. You'll notice all of them moving towards the north and all of them eventually making this westerly turn. Does that get a little bit closer here maybe around Oahu or Maui? That's certainly a possibility, and that's why we certainly can't let our guards down by any means. That said, these are big storms so the impact will certainly be there with all of the rain. This is that wind shear I'm talking about. And the farther north it goes it interacts more with that. That's why we'll eventually see a weakening storm, which is good news, but the impacts are going to be the same nonetheless. You'll notice it's primarily on the eastern side of the islands, the Big Island, where we still are probably going to be looking at another 18 inches of rain. Same goes up around Maui, a little bit less likely once we get towards Oahu and in towards Kauai. And as far as wing does, take a look at this. That yellow, that is tropical storm force winds. Throughout the overnight hours tonight we're going to be dealing with that across parts of the Big Island much of the day tomorrow and Saturday there across parts of those central islands. So a long track storm or a long-duration storm, and because of that, that's why we are so concerned about that flooding and it's going to cause quite a bit of damage, certainly. CHAFFETZ: Thank you, Rick. An amazing amount of rain. Good luck there in Hawaii. We are thinking about you and praying for you. Democrats are flirting with socialism, and if you look at the latest census data from 2016, it's not hard to see why. A whopping 52.1 percent of Americans under the age of 18 lived in a household that received at least one type of welfare. It begs the big question, are we breeding a new generation of dependency on government? Joining me now for analysis are David Burstein, the founder of Run for America, and Doug Schoen, who is the political analyst and Fox News contributor. Gentlemen, I think you both for being here. But David, where is this taking us? Is this new generation just going to assume that government is going to be there to bail them out the rest of their lives? DAVID BURSTEIN, FOUNDER, RUN FOR AMERICA: Look, I think we have to look at these numbers, and these are not good numbers because what they underlie is that there are some fundamental problems in our economy and the way that it's working for people. I don't think the biggest problem here is the government dependency that's been created, but the reality of the economy that most young people are growing up in, which does not spell a tremendous amount of opportunity for them going forward. And so when we think about the economic policy -- CHAFFETZ: But come on, every story we have had over the last six months to a year is about record low unemployment levels. So -- BURSTEIN: The economy is working for a certain set of people, but for people -- CHAFFETZ: But when unemployment is near 3.0 percent as it is, say, in Utah, then why so many people still on the dependency? BURSTEIN: Because these are people, as you know, who are not counted in those numbers. People under the age of 18 are generally not counted in unemployment numbers because they haven't reached full maturity in the labor market yet. So these are people who are beginning their career and beginning their lives at a huge disadvantage to everybody else, and who -- CHAFFETZ: Let me -- I want to -- BURSTEIN: -- we only have these levels of policies to help them out because we haven't created a fair economy for people. CHAFFETZ: OK, so I want to get into that, because I want to talk about the minimum wage. But let me put it this graphic and show how the growth has happened. This is households with children under the age of 18 receiving government assistance. From 1998 up to 2013, 36.9, up to 51.8 percent. Doug, what is your read on that? DOUG SCHOEN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I was one of those advising the Clinton administration, and as you, I'm sure remember, we did work requirements, time limits for welfare. And while I agree that there are people who need assistance, the disabled, poor children -- CHAFFETZ: Absolutely. SCHOEN: Absolutely. I think what we need to do is encourage a culture of independence, not dependence, that we encourage people to take advantage of the resources our society offers to get ahead. Those that can't need help. But I really think as a society, we need to encourage work. And I think it's worth saying that unemployment in the African-American and Hispanic communities is now at record lows. So we are making a lot of progress, but there's obviously more to do. CHAFFETZ: David, what is your take on minimum wage? Because you have got kids turning the corner, 15, 16 years old, and then when the minimum wage goes up, what do you think happens to the employment of those young teenagers trying to get their first job and get the experience they need? BURSTEIN: Look, the reality that you have got to look at here is that these people who are 18 and starting out, and this report -- CHAFFETZ: That's not what I asked you, David. I asked you about the kids that are 15, 16 years old trying to get a first job. What do you think is the effect of a rising minimum wage? BURSTEIN: The children who we're looking at in this report, many of these people are going out and they are getting the same kind of jobs that people have gotten -- SCHOEN: Jason, it's very simple. CHAFFETZ: David, since you're not going to answer that. SCHOEN: Look, I am one who believes in work programs. I believe in incentives for job training, minority business and the like. But if you do not allow younger people to get below minimum wage jobs as a first opportunity to get in the workforce, all you do is hurt poor people. I don't want to sound draconian or tough or harsh, but that's just a statistical fact of life. CHAFFETZ: You are my hero for the moment because I think you're absolutely right. In fact one of the good things I thought happened with Bill Clinton's years, along with Newt Gingrich, were a lot of these work requirements. SCHOEN: That's exactly right. CHAFFETZ: And David, I've got to tell you, I really do believe when you see rising unemployment levels, guess what, they hire less young people. And when those young people don't have experience and learn the value of a dollar, guess what. Then they start on this cycle. SCHOEN: We want people in the workforce, period. I do it myself in my own business. I am proud of it. And you know what -- CHAFFETZ: I did it. My kids did it. Gentlemen, I wish we had more time. Dave and Doug, I thank you very much. SCHOEN: Thanks, Jason. CHAFFETZ: I really do appreciate you coming on tonight. A former congressman accused of spending taxpayer money to fund a lavish lifestyle says the charges are bogus. Aaron Schock is here, and he will tell us how he is fighting back. CHAFFETZ: Aaron Schock was once a rising star on the Republican Party. I served with him in Congress. Elected when he was just 27 years old, he took on an almost celebrity status, even appearing on the cover of "Men's Health," something I could never do. But six years ago -- after six years of his time in Congress, there were allegations of misdeeds regarding the decoration of his office and the potential misuse of a campaign vehicle. According to his attorney, 30 federal agents were involved. There were two grand juries convened. He was charged with 24 felonies, two of which have been dismissed. And he faces 80 to 100 years in prison. Yet four years later, the prosecutor was reassigned after lying to the court. He says he has spent nearly $3 million defending himself. And yet he has still never had his day in court. It is time to hear Aaron's side of the story, and he joins me here today. Aaron, tell me, why are we in this situation four years after the fact that you left Congress? AARON SCHOCK, (R) FORMER ILLINOIS CONGRESSIONMAN: Thank you for having me on, Jason. As you know, anytime you're involved in a legal matter, your attorneys say don't say anything and justice will prevail. And I've always believed in our criminal justice system, that they are interested in truth. But sadly, it became very clear that over the two years that they were investigating me that they were on a massive fishing expedition. They went so far while I was still in office, the Obama Justice Department, to wire up a low-level staffer in my office. They directed that staffer without a search warrant, to steal documents in my office, to steal attorney-client privileged material, and even steal records of the House of Representatives. And then they were forcing court to admit they didn't find anything. So of course the natural question -- CHAFFETZ: OK, so let me put up this graphic. One of the things that catches my attention here is that the House counsel is there to protect the institution, not necessarily the members of Congress. But I want to put up on the screen what he actually has said. This is the House counsel talking about the FBI and the department of justice. "Such conduct likely constitutes a federal crime" -- on the part of the FBI, "on the part of federal agents who induced the commission of that underlying crime." So he has taken the position not against Aaron Schock but in support of Aaron Schock. SCHOCK: In support of me, and to your point, the support of the institution of the House of Representatives. The government has repeatedly infringed on the separation of powers of the institution of Congress, and unfortunately that letter has never been responded to by the Justice Department. They infringed upon the constitutional rights of Congress as well to make and interpret its own rules. In the way they charged me in these supposed felonies is almost laughable when you understand them. Let me give you two quick examples. One, I purchased a car with campaign funds, which is perfectly legal for the use of driving around my district. We submitted to the FEC the purchase of that vehicle and the payment to the dealership as a transportation expense. The government now has charged me with a false statement to a federal agency. They believe it should have said vehicle purchase. And they charged me -- CHAFFETZ: As opposed to transportation expense. SCHOCK: Right, 20-year felony. CHAFFETZ: And as I recall, they were, the news article initially said you had run up more vehicle miles then when you sold it for, but there were multiple vehicles involved. SCHOCK: Correct. Of course, as you know when you drive around your district, you're not always in the same vehicle at all times. And my staff and I were estimating my mileage as we went around the district, which the House Finance Office accepted as estimates. The government now comes back and says you can't have estimates. CHAFFETZ: Let's go to your office. One of the criticisms is you used this extravagant amount of money to decorate your office. "Downton Abbey" was the thing that was tagged to your office. What's your viewpoint? SCHOCK: First of all, it's not true. The truth of the matter is, Jason, I've never seen the show "Downton Abbey." I hadn't even heard of the show "Downton Abbey" until "The Washington Post" ran that story. The next day I did an interview with "CBS Evening News" where I said this is not true. The decorator who did the office gave an interview to "The Huffington Post" next day -- CHAFFETZ: Where did the money come from? SCHOCK: The money came for my budget, my office budget. So I spent $25,000 my office budget on my office. CHAFFETZ: So members are given what's called a member's reimbursable allowance. It's roughly $1.4 million. But you spent money, $25,000 or so of that office budget on your office. (LAUGHTER) SCHOCK: Yes, exactly. CHAFFETZ: But what were you charged with there? SCHOCK: There one of the items we've purchased, for example, the decorator purchased was a light fixture. And according to the House rules can you can buy fixtures but not furniture. And so the government has come in and said that's not a fixture. That's a piece of furniture. Again, a false statement to a federal agency, 20 year felony. CHAFFETZ: So you are facing 20 years because they say you put it on your forms saying it with a fixture as opposed to a piece of furniture even though it's a piece of lighting. SCHOCK: Correct. CHAFFETZ: Really, and you are facing 20 years against that. Why has this taken so long? I have seen multiple different prosecutors. I believe you are now on your third judge. SCHOCK: Correct. So typically the Justice Department, this is my first rodeo, my first time dealing with this, typically the Justice Department defers to the local U.S. attorney's office. They get to run their little fiefdom and they defer to their judgment. What has happened over the past four years is the local U.S. attorney's office, this Obama holdover Justice Department in central Illinois, has proven a lack of judgment, frankly. First, not only did they wire up my informant illegally and still documents of mine. CHAFFETZ: So that didn't happen with the Department of Justice in Washington, D.C.? SCHOCK: No. this is a local office who saw me as a rising star in the Republican Party and their ticket to stardom, their ticket to move up the ladder within the Justice Department. After they wired up my informant and didn't find anything, they then, during the grand jury process, used my Fifth Amendment right to not appear against me. And when we heard about it, we called them out onto the judge. The judge asked to prosecutor's office, were you doing this. They emphatically denied it. Three months later they had to admit to the court they had lied and in fact they had used my Fifth Amendment against me 11 times on 11 different occasions. And yet the case continues to move forward. And finally just a couple weeks ago, we found out that the same U.S. attorney's office was engaged in ex-parte communication with the judge in my case about another criminal matter, and that's why we have now got a new judge. CHAFFETZ: Do you think -- you were charged two days after Donald Trump was elected. Do you think that's a coincidence? SCHOCK: No. This U.S. attorney we know contacted members of Congress advocating for help becoming the next U.S. attorney because, again, he was the guy who was prosecuting Aaron Schock. We know that he was a finalist, as one of the finalists -- CHAFFETZ: I've got about 15 seconds. The case, you now have paperwork with the Supreme Court. What are the possibilities there? SCHOCK: We hope the Supreme Court accepts are hearing because there's important constitutional concerns about allowing the Justice Department to reinterpret the House rules, which are the system of the House. CHAFFETZ: Aaron, thank you very much for being here and explaining it. A lot more to this case. We'll be right back. CHAFFETZ: Many thanks to Laura Ingraham for allowing me to sit in and host her show. I really do appreciate it. I do hope you're able to check out a book that I have written. It's called "The Deep State, How an Army of Bureaucrats Protected Barack Obama and is Working to Destroy the Trump Agenda." It's available for preorder online and hits the bookshelves on September 18th. I am proud of the work. You want to know about it, it's a great place to look. Again, I'll be back one more night, tomorrow night. But Shannon Bream, she's up next. And you know she's my favorite person at Fox. Load-Date: August 24, 2018 End of Document Destroy-Trump Forces Working Overtime; Trump Fights Back Against Mueller Witch-Hunt; Illegal Immigrant Accused of Murdering Mollie Tibbetts Appears in Court; Robert Mueller's Team Has Obviously No Evidence against President Trump over the So-Called Russia Collusion and Most People Now Say that the Probe is Politically Motivated Against the President; Recent Crime Involving an Alleged Illegal Immigrant Who Killed Iowa College Student Mollie Tibbetts Now Starting to Synch in to a lot of Americans about the Importance of Strengthening the Immigration Laws and It is also the Same Issue that President Trump Has Been Talking about since the Campaign Period; MSNBC Guest under Fire for Calling Mollie Tibbetts as Just "A Girl in Iowa" and Blasting Fox News for Covering It Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 22, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7592 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Ainsley Earhardt, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Newt Gingrich Guests: Michelle Malkin, Pam Bondi Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Great show. Thank you. Welcome to HANNITY. Four hundred and sixty-two days into Robert Mueller's witch hunt, still no evidence of collusion. But tonight, we do have proof the destroy-Trump forces, they are working overtime not only to smear this president but every single person around him -- Manafort, Cohen, Flynn, Papadopoulos all targeted specifically because of crimes that had nothing to do with Russia but because they are friends with the president. Dozens more of the president's allies now forced to endure what is excruciating, long hours, interrogations, new or serious legal threats and fees, all while the destroy-Trump liberal media is cheering in unison for team Mueller every step of the way. Now, with the midterm elections only 76 days away, Democrats are foaming at the mouth, as I have been warning, using Mueller's witch hunt as the basis for what they want, which is impeachment, so they regain power in Congress. Very scary political future and picture and it's the reason that these upcoming elections, I keep telling you, the most important midterms in our lifetime. And meanwhile, President Trump is now fighting back. In moments, we will bring you an exclusive preview, Ainsley Earhardt's interview with the president from earlier today. We will also bring an important update on the horrific murder, that case in Iowa, 20-year-old Mollie Tibbetts senselessly murdered. The illegal immigrant who admitted to this horrific crime appearing in court earlier today, and the president responding with a video on Twitter. We will show you that tape. Sit tight, buckle up. We have a lot to get to in tonight's breaking opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Since March of last year, I have been warning you, the American people about five forces that are working to destroy President Trump. You have partisan deep state bureaucrats. We learned a lot about them in the last year and a half. Liberal Democrats, your corrupt, pathetic media, weak establishment Republicans and this group called never- Trumpers. Yesterday, what we have been telling you for more than a year is playing out as we predicted. Led by Robert Mueller's merry band, the Democratic donors and witch hunters, the deep state has successfully now targeted several Trump associates. They never would have been targeted if they weren't friends with the president. And yesterday, Paul Manafort, he was convicted on 8 of 18 bank and tax fraud charges. Nothing to do with Russia collusion and during an exclusive interview that will air tomorrow morning on "Fox & Friends", President Trump weighed in on that and so much more. Let's get a sneak peak. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AINSLEY EARHARDT, FOX NEWS HOST, "FOX & FRIENDS": Are you considering pardoning Paul Manafort? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I have great respect for what he's done in terms of what he's gone through. You know, he worked for Ronald Reagan for years. He worked for bob dole. I guess his firm worked for McCain. He worked for many, many people. Many, many years, and I would say what he did, some of the charges they threw against them, every consultant, every lobbyist in Washington probably does. If you look at Hillary Clinton's person, you take a look at the people that work for Hillary Clinton. Look at the crimes that Clinton did with the emails and she deletes 33,000 emails after she gets a subpoena from Congress and this Justice Department does nothing about it? And all of the other crimes that they've done. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We're going to have a lot more on the blatant legal double standard in the moment but first, also yesterday, prosecutors compelled Michael Cohen to plead guilty to bank and tax fraud charges and some phony campaign finance violations. Again, none of these charges have anything to do with Russia, Russia collusion, President Trump or the election of 2016. And last night, right here on this program last night, the great one, Mark Levin, completely debunked campaign at related charges. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARK LEVIN, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: The general counsel for the Clinton mob family Lanny Davis, he had his client pleaded to two counts of criminality that don't exist. These campaign finance violations all over TV, they're saying implicates the president of the United States directly. First, let's back up. It is a guilty plea. It is a plea bargain between a prosecutor and a criminal -- the criminal who doesn't want to spend the rest of his life in prison. That is not precedent. That applies only to that specific case. Nobody cites plea bargains for precedent. That's number one. Number two, just because a prosecutor says that somebody violated a campaign law, doesn't make it so. He's not the judge, he's not the jury. We didn't adjudicate anything, it never went to court. That's number two. A campaign expenditure under our federal campaign laws is an expenditure solely for campaign activity. A candidate who spends his own money or even corporate money for an event that occurred not as a result of the campaign, it is not a campaign expenditure. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: In other words, most of the liberal lawyers who see on TV are dopes. They don't know the law. Look at Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz also debunking these charges. Guys, watch, listen, learn. It will help you. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALAN DERSHOWITZ, HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR: The law is clear that a president may contribute to his own campaign. So, if the president had paid $280,000 to these two women, even if he had done so in order to help his campaign, that would be no problem. That's legal. And if Cohen himself made the contribution, that would be unlawful because he has a limit of $5,200. So, the complicated issue is, what if Trump told him to do it, as Cohen says. Then, Cohen would be acting for Trump, as Trump's representative, and the campaign contribution would be lawful as long as the president ultimately paid for it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That's 100 percent right. That's the law. And during an interview with Ainsley Earhardt again, she will join us in a few minutes, the president reiterated these payments were in no way a campaign finance violation. Look at the law. Take a look, listen, learn. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) EARHARDT: Did you know about the payments? TRUMP: Later on I knew. Later on. But you have to understand, Ainsley, what he did, and they weren't taken out of campaign finance. That's a big thing. That's a much bigger thing. Did they come out of the campaign? They didn't come out of the campaign. They came for me and I tweeted about it. You know, I put -- I don't know if you know, but I tweeted about the payments. But they didn't come out of campaign. In fact, my first question when I heard about it was, did they come out of the campaign? Because that could be a little dicey, and they didn't come out of the campaign and that's big. But they weren't -- that's not a -- it's not even a campaign violation. If you look at President Obama, he had a massive campaign violation, but he had a different attorney general and they viewed it a lot differently. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, while the media, they want you to believe that Michael Cohen, a central player in all things Trump, the president, well, he had a much different take. Let's listen to him. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) EARHARDT: Michael Cohen, tell me about your relationship with him. TRUMP: Well, he was a lawyer for me for one of many -- you know, they always say, the lawyer and then they like to add the fixer. Well, I don't know if he's a fixer. I don't know where that term came from. He's been a lawyer for me. Didn't do big deals, did small deals. Not somebody that was with me that much. You know, they make it sound like I didn't live without him. I understood Michael Cohen very well. He -- it turned out he wasn't a very good lawyer, frankly. But he was somebody that was probably with me for about ten years. And I would see him sometimes. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, Michael Cohen's attorney Lanny Davis said that his client would not even accept a pardon from the president. He actually said that today. Lanny, I've known you a lot of years, who are you representing here? That Michael Cohen wouldn't accept a pardon? He's facing as many as five years in jail? Look, Lanny, I know you are so embedded into the Clintons, you love all things Clinton, but you are supposed to represent Michael here and if he was ever offered a pardon, it would be pretty stupid not to take it. What a disservice. Now, no person would be better off spending years in prison with a felony conviction on their track record or getting a pardon. Basic simple common sense, Lanny. Now, regardless of what you think about Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort. It is clear they have been targeted. They have been singled out for their one time connection to President Trump and now both men, you can add Michael Flynn and George Papadopoulos, they all face time in jail. A horrible example of what we have been exposing on this program, a two- tiered justice system. Equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws, that's -- the great system of our constitutional republic. In 2008, you may recall the Obama campaign, they kept $1.3 million in illegal contributions. Guess what? Nobody got charged. Nobody got indicted. Nobody went to prison. No one was slapped with a felony, just a campaign-wide fine, 375 grand. 2017, the Clinton campaign, the DNC, they were reported to the FEC for failing to properly disclose their financial contributions to the dirty dossier. You know, those funneled through Perkins Coie, the law firm that then hired, oh, Fusion GPS, the op research group that then hired Christopher Steele, the foreign nationals not supposed to impact our election, that then paid for Russian lies that he doesn't even stand by. Then became the basis to lie to the American people before the campaign, then became the basis of four FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign associate. That's the whole thing. They didn't report that money. They paid -- oh, that's a legal expense. It wasn't. Robert Mueller, nowhere to be found. And on the tax front in 2015, according to a report from the then- Congressman Jason Chaffetz, he's in for Laura Ingraham tonight. Federal workers owed a billion dollars in unpaid taxes. That's right, they work for your government, including many in Obama's White House. Of course, no special counsel, no investigation, no indictment, nothing against these tax cheats. Remember tax cheat Geithner? They are working our federal government, a lot. A billion dollars is kind of a lot of money. I read that somewhere. It's not really clear that there is one system of justice for Hillary Clinton, the Democrats, deep state bureaucrats. The Obama White House, they have one system of justice. Anyone else, you and me, anyone tied to Donald Trump, a different system of justice. This republic can't survive with a dual justice system, which brings us to our next critical point. I have been shouting this from the rooftops since May. We are about to face what I'm calling the most important midterm elections in our lifetime, 76 days from today, while the deep state is working around the clock to dig up dirt on anybody, anything associated with this president that you elected, the American people, Democrats are now planning to use this information to bring articles of impeachment against the president. It doesn't matter that there's no collusion. Mark Levin was right last night. Robert Mueller will write an impeachment document. It doesn't matter that the president did nothing wrong and broke no law. Mark my words, if Democrats, if you stay home on election day, and Democrats take back the House of Representatives, I promise you, mark my words, they will bring articles of impeachment against the president. I have been warning about this for a long time. If you don't believe it now, I don't know what will make you believe it. Seventy-six days, you will decide if the president and his agenda goes forward, because they will stop that. If this November, the future of this continued successful economic boom continued peace through strength, all of this, a lot of stuff at stake, and sadly, that's not all. We know what the Democratic agenda is. It's pretty scary actually. What they called crumbs, your tax cuts, they want their crimes back and as we said, they want to impeach the president. As we told you, they want to preserve Obamacare. Lose your doctor, lose your plan, pay more. That seems to work for them. They want to block Judge Kavanaugh and constitutionalists to the Supreme Court, originalists. They want open borders. They want to eliminate ICE. They are saying as much. They want to kill off all of these investigations, just drop it right there for their deep state friends and this massive abuse of power and that we have been able to expose. And as always, the mainstream media, the destroy-Trump media, they are just doing the bidding of the left, the Democratic Party. They are an extension of their press office and like a broken record, from what seems like the millionth time, the crisis peddlers in the news media in this country, the echo chamber, they are all predicting the same thing because it's what they are hoping for, impeachment. This is what they wanted for a long time. This is their shot. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Given the events of today, the likelihood of impeachment, I'm not saying it's high but it certainly went up. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeach. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president is clearly guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. He should resign his office or be impeached. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Today, the term presidency took a giant step toward impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment implications are now in the air. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If it is a crime it certainly is an impeachable offense. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeach Trump. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Impeachment. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Remember s-hole, s-hole, s-hole. Remember Stormy, Stormy, Stormy. Russia, Russia, Russia. They hyperventilate over whatever the issue is of the day. For over 24 hours, your apocalyptic press have been working overtime in overdrive, pushing anti-Trump conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory. We have the evidence, take a look. You decide. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The man who once said he would take a bullet for Donald Trump today in federal court was essentially calling his old boss and client now the president of the United States, a crook. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So there are a lot of players now who start to potentially construct an enterprise, a criminal enterprise that is around, or may even involve the president. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As of now and is not going to change that Donald Trump is indeed a scumbag. Voters know that. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just -- I think there is something worse than useful idiots and that would be a useful idiot under legal siege and that is what president Donald Trump is this morning. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You really want to stay home in 76 days? Do you vote for the president, happy with the economy? You want to stay the course, you like the judges appointed, you want borders secured? Do you want health care transformed? Do you want peace through strength? But it's this kind of reckless abuse of bias, it's the very reason the president has rightly criticized the media, including this moment in his interview on "Fox & Friends" that will air tomorrow morning with Ainsley. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) EARHARDT: The press. It is the press the enemy of the people? TRUMP: No, not at all, but the fake news is and the fake news is comprised of -- it's a big chunk, OK? Somebody said, what's the chunk? I said 80 percent. It's a lot. It's a lot. If I do something well, it's not reported, other than in the 20 percent. I mean, "The New York Times" cannot write a good story about me. They are crazed. They are like lunatics. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: As you can see from tonight's monologue, I told you a long time ago, the very beginning, it actually started the day he and Melania came down the escalator. Five forces that have been working against the president, they are now more active. They sense there's blood in the water. They are literally harmoniously working together and, yes, most of them would love the impeachment of the president you voted for and stop the progress, ruin his agenda. Now, this is real and never has it been more important if you care about your vote in 2016, you might want to register and vote knowing that this hate, this destruction, this havoc that will occur if the Democrats take back the House. It's a clear and present danger. So, don't tell me, by the way, the morning after the election, that you didn't have sufficient knowledge of what they would do. Seventy-six days from today, you have a massive opportunity to protect your vote in 2016, preserve that vote, repair the system of justice, make this country a better place for every American. There's a lot riding on this midterm. They want to undo the agenda you voted for. They want to stop the progress we have obviously made that they will never talk about in the media. All right. Before we wrap up our monologue tonight, let's turn to this horrific sad story out of Iowa. Twenty-year-old college student Mollie Tibbetts senselessly murdered. Her body recovered in a cornfield and now, a Mexican national in this country illegally has now confessed to stalking and murdering Mollie Tibbetts while she was out jogging. The monster likely responsible for this crime is now being held on $5 million in bail. Earlier today, the president, he reacted on Twitter. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Mollie Tibbetts, an incredible young woman, is now permanently separated from her family. A person came in from Mexico illegally and killed her. We need the wall, we need our immigration laws changed, we need our border laws changed. We need Republicans to do it because the Democrats aren't going to do it. To the family of Mollie Tibbetts, all I can say is God bless you. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Foxnews.com has been covering the tragic story for weeks. We will have more coverage on this later in the show. Joining us now first with reaction our top story of the night, back from her exclusive interview with the president today, she is "Fox and Friends" co-host, Ainsley Earhardt. How are you? Good to see you. EARHARDT: Hi. Good seeing you, Sean. HANNITY: What's going on? Congratulations. EARHARDT: Thank you for having me on. HANNITY: Big interview. There's a lot there. Let's first start to the news from yesterday. He talked a lot about Michael Cohen. We just heard part of it, Paul Manafort. Tell us what you see. EARHARDT: Well, so, when we sat down with him, my questions were Michael Cohen story changed. Originally, he said that I paid off women, the president didn't know about it, and then all of a sudden, his story changes. And then he's also pleading guilty to eight different counts. So, do we believe him? That was the question this morning. You know, this is a guy that's lied, tax returns, fraud, all this, and now he's changing his story about the president. So when I sat down with the president, I said, my number one question that I wanted to ask him is what happened? Did you know? Did he pay off these women? Did you know about it? And he said, I didn't at first and now I know about it and he -- I said, well, if it wasn't illegal, because we've had several attorneys that have been on our morning show saying it's not illegal to do this, so if it's not illegal, then how did he get a plea bargain? How did he get -- he was facing 65 years behind bars in prison. How did he go from 65 years possibly max to three to five years? If it wasn't illegal, why are they using that? He said because if there something negative that they can say about me, they will use that and they will lessen their sentence, that extreme just because they hate me. Keep in mind, this is the Mueller investigation. HANNITY: Right. EARHARDT: The Mueller investigation was looking into Manafort's past, was looking into Cohen's past and that led them to all of these tax fraud. It has nothing to do with Russia. HANNITY: Is he more mad at Michael because of the tape than, say, Paul Manafort? EARHARDT: Absolutely, yes. HANNITY: Because I noticed in his comments yesterday, he mentioned Manafort but not Michael. EARHARDT: He mentioned pardoning Manafort and then you have Michael Cohen's attorney, Lanny Davis. HANNITY: He did mentioning pardoning Manafort. EARHARDT: He did, he did, and said that he considered that. He feels I think -- I think he feels so -- I think he feels bad for Manafort. They were friends. He didn't work for him for very long. Worked for him for basically 100 days. The president didn't know about all of the tax stuff. Of course, he wouldn't know about that. HANNITY: That was way before their relationship, yes. EARHARDT: And he did say, he said, keep in mind who worked for Reagan for a long time. HANNITY: He worked for a lot of people. EARHARDT: And no one is talking about that, yes. Just because he is associated with me and they hate me so much. HANNITY: Did you -- well, what I'm pointing out and I believe and I talked about this for a long time is that there are these forces against the president. I talk about five of them. I also believe with the Democrats agenda, they are telegraphing it. Seventy-six days from now, there's going to be an election. EARHARDT: Right, midterm. HANNITY: I believe, and I've been saying on the air that they would want to impeach him. Did any of -- with all the hysteria in the media. Did that come up at all? EARHARDT: It did. I asked him that question. I said, if the Democrats win the midterms, their agenda is going to be to impeach because there's no Russia collusion at least so far. So what's the next step if they hate you so much? What are they going to do? And he agreed that impeachment -- they are going to try to impeach and he says he basically expects that. HANNITY: You know, there so many key players here and there is such a double standard, because we have -- we know a lot. We know Hillary obstructed. We know that she paid for Russian propaganda to influence the American people, which is kind of cheating because it was never verified or corroborated. These were lies that she paid for, funneled money, which is another issue we just pointed out. But then you've got, you know, you got the FISA warrant abuse. Nobody seems -- nobody's getting indicted in those cases. A lot of this goes back to Jeff Sessions. EARHARDT: Yes. HANNITY: And did he talk about either Jeff or Rod or Mueller? EARHARDT: He did, he did, he did. I can't tell you about what he said about that but I did ask him. I've got to save it for the morning show. HANNITY: Well, give us -- EARHARDT: I did ask him, I said, are you going to fire Jeff Sessions? There are rumors you're gong to fire him. There are rumors you're going to fire Rosenstein, and, you know, what are you thinking? And I'm not going to tell you. You got to watch the morning show because I can't give it all the way here, but he did say -- HANNITY: Wait a minute, this is too important. Give us -- yes. EARHARDT: He did say that it's such a double standard, beyond a double standard what happened with Hillary Clinton, how she got off, what happened with the IT guys and Debbie Wasserman Schultz. (CROSSTALK) EARHARDT: That's going to break news, yes. HANNITY: What he said about Sessions and Rosenstein and Mueller? EARHARDT: Absolutely, absolutely. HANNITY: Wow. What else can you tell us? EARHARDT: There was so much more. We asked him about Mollie Tibbetts and ICE and how he has doubled down. You know, he's gotten -- so many people are saying abolish ICE, abolish ICE, but he doubles down. He brings ICE to the White House and honors them. HANNITY: So, there is a lot of news here that people want to see in the morning. EARHARDT: I was really -- I will say, there was so much breaking news yesterday and there was so much negative news, hats off to him for sitting down with me today. I think that was very brave because we learned in journalism school, if someone sets a narrative you've got to defend yourself. HANNITY: All right. Six a.m. tomorrow. Thank you for sharing your interview with us. We appreciate it. EARHARDT: Thank you so much. HANNITY: Tomorrow morning, 6:00 to 9:00. All right. We have a lot more coming up straight ahead. HANNITY: Just minutes ago, the president tweeted out: The only thing that I have done wrong is to win an election that was expected to be won by crooked Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. The problem is they forgot to campaign in numerous states. Here with reaction: author of now three weeks and running number one "New York Times" bestseller, "The Russian Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, and FOX News investigative reporter, contributor, Sara Carter. I was a little intrigued by what Ainsley said about in the interview -- she didn't give us -- about Rod Rosenstein and Sessions. It seems at this point, we're never going to get -- they are defying subpoenas, they're not listening. Jeff Sessions literally created this mess. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Here's why they should be fired: I talked to a former career guy, a lawyer at the Department of Justice today. He said it is outrageous that Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein would authorize a guilty plea to a non-crime and this is a guy who spent much of his career doing election law and he laughed and he said, this is not a crime. It's not a violation of federal election laws for several reasons. First of all, you can -- it's not a crime to contribute to your own campaign and that's what the president did. Even if he ran it through an LLC temporarily, that's nothing more than a loan or advance, that is not a crime. And second of all, he said it doesn't even count as a campaign expense, why? Because there is another dual purpose of personal or commercial reason for it. So, this is outrageous that there was a guilty plea for a non-crime. HANNITY: Wait a minute, two of the eight counts we are talking about here, not one, two. JARRETT: Right. And they were -- Professor Dershowitz is right. They're add-ons. They didn't care about Michael Cohen. They wanted to give him a sweetheart deal so that he would say something to implicate the president and he implicated the president in a non-crime. HANNITY: You know, whether or not the media is aware of the issues we pointed out in many of the stories that you've been able to break, Sara, there are still legal issues that are out there. We still have top -- we have Comey and McCabe and Strzok and Page and Sally Yates and this deep state. We do have FISA court judges lied to. We did have a fix in the investigation with Hillary Clinton and the evidence was overwhelming and incontrovertible. The biggest obstruction case we've ever seen. So all of this is still percolating as the media is getting all giddy here and I know for a fact-- SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: But there-- HANNITY: -- there's a lot more information coming out probably sooner than later. CARTER: Absolutely. Let me just go to one point, Sean, about Mueller. This is the most important point. As he's targeting everyone in Trump campaign, previous campaign officials, remember, its Attorney General Jeff Sessions that was with him for some point in time. Rod Rosenstein also wrote the letter that asked President Trump to basically fire Comey and he listed out a number of reasons. So let's think about this. Jeff Sessions could be a potential witness. If that leads me to suspect that he may himself resign from the position of attorney general eventually if he is called by Mueller. He can't serve as the attorney general and then be a witness, and then you have Rod Rosenstein. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, Rod Rosenstein has already been conflicted the whole time. CARTER: Isn't he a potential witness? Yes, of course. He's been conflicted. So these are two very real possibilities. If something that can happen. And mark my word, this is something that could drag Jeff Sessions right into the Mueller investigation, so the irony here is that it may work in the favor of getting rid of Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein. JARRETT: Think about this. Mueller is already interviewed his own boss Rod Rosenstein. I mean, talk about a conflict of interest. HANNITY: There's a new book out. It's not as good as yours of course, no. But Peter Schweizer is the guy that brought us Uranium One, the guy that brought us Clinton Cash. (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: Government Accountability Institute. HANNITY: Government accountability. Do you know that Jim Comey worked for Lockheed Martin? JARRETT: That's right. HANNITY: We're going to break a lot of this tomorrow. I'm just getting a little teaser here. In one year, 2009, alone, they say in the book that James Comey was paid $6.1 million just for Lockheed Martin working for them-- JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: -- and this was on, you know, new important spy information. I'm not suggesting anything necessarily as nefarious but it's never been disclosed and that Robert Mueller was at the FBI and that signed off on that 6.1 -- in that one year, there's five other years I don't know how much he got paid of the other five. He also got $6 million that reports from a hedge fund. That's an awful lot of money it seems to me. JARRETT: Yes. These guys were leveraging their government positions according to the book to enrich themselves and the company and the private sector they were working for. HANNITY: Yes. JARRETT: It's very much the same arguments I make in my book of how they were leveraging their relationship with each other for a long period of time, in which is why this is a conflict of interest for Mueller to be investigating the president on a case in which his longtime friend, ally and partner, James Comey, is a key witness against the president. HANNITY: I think when people see this and Sara, give us a little hint of what you are working on in the next couple of weeks. CARTER: Well, we have a lot more stories coming forward. Especially on the Clinton Foundation and members of the FBI and a little bit more on the FISA application. So, I say, stay tuned. HANNITY: I can't wait to talk to those FISA court judges that were fraud was perpetrated. I wonder how they feel. I was brought up old-fashioned that if you are subpoenaed you don't delete your e-mails and acid wash the hard drive and bust up devices. And I was also taught to a judge you say yes, your honor, no, your honor, and you don't purposefully lie to judges to get a warrant to spy on opposition party candidate but I might just be old-fashioned. I'm maybe a little bit out of touch and I know that's not the same as let's see, taxes going back 10 years. JARRETT: You wouldn't fit in the current DOJ, FBI. HANNITY: All right. Good work, both of you. When we come back, Michelle Malkin, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi reacting to an illegal immigrant charged in Mollie Tibbetts murder. And later, Newt Gingrich joins us as well. A lot to get to tonight. Stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Earlier tonight the president released a video on Twitter talking about the murder of Mollie Tibbetts, about the need for border security. We showed you that earlier. And joining us now with reaction, she is the host of CRTV's Michelle Malkin Investigates, Michelle Malkin. Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi. By the way, she's filling in on the Five this week. Congratulations. Good for you. PAM BONDI, FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Thank you. HANNITY: They are a great group of people, everyone is great on the show. BONDI: Awesome. HANNITY: Let me start with you. You have a lot of statistics. BONDI: yes. HANNITY: This election, we hear all these people. We hear about the sanctuary cities which basically to me is aiding and abetting lawbreaking because we do have laws, we are a nation of laws. The same thing with abolishing ICE and demonizing them for doing their job. BONDI: Right. So our ICE agents do so much in this country for us and in Florida alone as attorney general they are amazing. Look at this, OK, first of all, there are so many gangs from out of this country in my state. Listen to this. In 2014 with no border security, 1200 criminal gangs were identified, 1200 separate gangs, 53,000 documented gang members, documented by law enforcement. HANNITY: In Florida. BONDI: In Florida. And over 11,000 gangs in prison or on DOC supervision in my state. That's why we have to build a wall. HANNITY: Why would you send them back if they are in the justice system? BONDI: Exactly. And they are not only doing burglaries, robberies, supporting drug habits, they're into human trafficking. HANNITY: Well, we can't bring Kate Steinle back and we're not going to be able to bring Mollie Tibbetts back. Michelle, Pam is talking about one state. I mentioned it a lot on the air. We've shown it a lot on the air. But down to the border, Rio Grande to San Diego at least a dozen times. Horseback, all terrain vehicle, my horseback was embarrassing. Helicopters, boats, I've been there. I sat through a security briefing in Texas alone. During a seven year period 642,000 crimes committed against Texans alone. This is, and by the way, some of those were murder. And some of them are heinous violent crimes. To me, the fact that we haven't secure the border and Democrats don't want to secure the border, it probably could be campaign issue number one and 76 days, Michelle. MICHELLE MALKIN, HOST, CRTV: Well, it should be. And it will be if Americans finally rise up and push back against the politicization of this issue. Not by President Trump and not Republicans and conservatives who are talking about Mollie Tibbetts' death today. And who talk about criminal activity of illegal aliens pretty much every day as I have for the last 25 years, I've devoted much of my career to exposing the bloody consequences of open borders. I wrote two books about it. I too have been to the border many times and I have many sources I have developed at all levels of government that deal with these problems. Here's the point. The case that we are talking about today underscores a message I have been sending. These examples are arguments for more and vigorous and better enforcement and not less and as a campaign issue you have Democrats who are all lockstep that ICE should be abolished. They are finally openly brazenly, like Keith Ellison is saying that we should have no borders at all. It is a disgrace. You've got Elizabeth Warren now lecturing people about which family separations they should be caring about. Mollie Tibbetts has been permanently, violently separated from her family. Of course we should care. And now you have members of the media who are attacking this channel and people on it for caring about cases like this that happen every single day. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Yes, people on Fox are talking about this. I want to get to that in the next segment. It is sad -- and this is preventable. That's the thing. And especially, you know, you look at the sanctuary city laws and, Pam, this is what -- they won't hand over to ICE people that are in the criminal justice system. They literally refused to obey the law. Why again, it's all like Hillary and her e-mails that, you know, delete, destroy, break up devices. I think I'd go to jail if I committed a fraud to FISA judges, I think I would go to jail. These are dumb things to do. I also think that if I was able to release a criminal and hide them and not hand them over to law enforcement, why do I think I would go to jail on that too? And how do they all get away with it? Because they are complicit, they are aiding and abetting crimes. BONDI: They certainly are and then you have people like Elizabeth Warren enabling them by her ridiculous statements about this is one girl who died, how sorry she is. But we have to look at what's best for all of these illegal immigrants. Well, one death is too much. HANNITY: Yes. But it's OK if you don't pay her taxes and your friends with Donald Trump or rely on the loan application and your friends with Donald Trump. There is our two-tier justice system. Michelle Malkin. MALKIN: Yes. I want to say this too. There's no such thing as a free lunch and there's no such thing as cheap, illegal alien labor. Every person in this country has a responsibility to help uphold our immigration laws and that includes employers. E-verify is only used by 10 percent of employers in America. That is astonishing. They need to be both real civil and criminal penalties for employers who knowingly and intentionally and deliberately employ illegal aliens in this country. They have blood on their hands too. HANNITY: All right. Michelle Malkin, thank you. Congrats, Pam, on The Five all week here on the Fox News Channel. You don't want to miss it. When we come back, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich will talk about the election in 76 days. Mollie Tibbetts' murder, wait until you hear what was set on conspiracy TV MSNBC. And his reaction to Manafort and Cohen and will be ever get to the truth about lying to FISA judges and fixing and rigging an investigation into Hillary? Straight ahead. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You heard about today with the illegal alien coming in very sadly from Mexico and you saw what happened to that incredible beautiful young woman. It should have never happened. Illegally in our country. We had a huge impact but the laws are so bad. The immigration laws are such a disgrace. We are getting them changed, but we have to get more Republicans. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. The president last night reacting to the arrest of an illegal immigrant for the murder of Iowa college student Mollie Tibbetts. Yesterday, just hours after the arrest, well, a guest on conspiracy TV MSNBC while bashing President Trump and Fox News refer to this young woman Mollie Tibbetts as, quote, "a girl in Iowa." really? Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRISTINA GREER, PROFESSOR, FORDHAM UNIVERSITY: They have been so willing to move the goal post every single time with this president, no matter what he says, no matter what he does, right? The fact that he was even sworn in as president after the Access Hollywood tape let me know for a fact that the Republican Party is actually not working on behalf of the American people, they're working on behalf of Donald Trump. And he's been able to bully them into their silence and I don't think that today changes much unfortunately. I'm sure we'll hear about what he has to say about this at his rally. But Fox News is talking about, you know, a girl in Iowa and not this, right? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. So the MSNBC guest later apologized for the comment and tweeted out, quote, "Yesterday I said something flippant that was unintended. Mollie Tibbetts was a promising young woman who lost her life. My hope is that her family will find peace and justice and that her murder is not used to justify a discriminatory immigration policy." Wow. Joining us with more, he is the author of the best seller, "Trump's America: The Truth About our Nation's Great Comeback," former Speaker of the House, Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich. It's actually the opposite of what this person, this girl over at MSNBC has said and this woman is saying and that is it's really clear that the Trump economy, which you point out in the first half of your book, is what is driving so many people to support him. We have a record low unemployment, 14 states. African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian-Americans. Youth unemployment is at an almost all-time low. Women in the workplace. So that is a big part of the story and yes, he wants to protect our nation from what is happening with illegal immigration. NEWT GINGRICH, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, look, I think it's very telling that Mollie Tibbetts was an American, a young lady with a great future. She was killed. The person who killed her was illegally in the United States. Now when people say well, we would like to protect Americans but let's not discriminate, look, if discriminating means you are to discriminate against criminals, let's have a debate. I'm pro-discrimination against MS-13. I am pro-discrimination against violent criminals. I am pro-discrimination in favor of Americans having their lives saved. So let's talk about what the left means by discrimination, because in their use of the word in the end it means open borders. It means abolishing ICE, it means anybody who wants to can come in and it means a total lack of judgment. And I think that Mollie Tibbetts could be a more important person in September and October than Paul Manafort ever dreamed of, because while he was convicted of things he did as a private citizen, none of them involving Donald Trump. She was killed by a person who is exactly what Trump has been warning about and I think the left has to bear the burden of being the party that's tolerating Americans being killed by people who are here illegally. HANNITY: Well, I want to talk about with 76 days away from this election. You are one of the great political strategist in our time. You took back control of Congress for the first time for Republicans in 40 years. I was there the night you became speaker, 1994. But I want to look at these. we got, for example, General Flynn lying to the FBI. Papadopoulos lying to the FBI or lying to investigators. Then you've got tax, bank fraud, Cohen, Manafort and then you have campaign finance issues, which, again, every smart lawyer knows doesn't impact Donald Trump at all. And my question to you is what does this have to do with Russia? Because I'm beginning to sense and feel that everybody is so overreached and people are asking this is it? This is what the Russia thing is? That I think it's going to create a backlash in 76 days that may be people aren't seeing. GINGRICH: We are in the middle of a two-universe fight over the nature of America. The left would like Paul Manafort and all these other legal things to be the deciding issue in September and October. We want lowest black unemployment in American history. Lowest Latino unemployment in American history. Over 4 percent real growth. Wages going up. Americans having conservative judges approved in record numbers. Bad regulations being thrown out in record numbers. We want to have a debate in which our universe is a universe of real accomplishments and their universe is a universe of essentially trying to block everything, and I think if we communicate that correctly, we will win by a huge margin. You know, I did this the other night with you and you were shocked, I think I was on your radio show -- because I was so optimistic. And you said, are you really this optimistic and my answer is simple. If the president and his team and the Republicans in Congress and their consultants can wage a campaign that insists that this election is about the issues that matter to the American people, we will shock people on election night with one of the most astounding off year elections in history. HANNITY: I agree with that. All right. Newt Gingrich, thank you for joining us. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh mocking Robert Mueller earlier today. We've got the video. That's next. HANNITY: All right. Rush Limbaugh was earlier on today with the special counsel and his witch hunt, Robert Mueller. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: Add this to the reasons this has me so frosted and why all of this is a fraud. Mr. Integrity, Mr. Honor, Robert Mueller knows all of this lawbreaking went on and he's ignoring it. And so does everybody else in this investigation know that everything about this is bogus and fraudulent and it didn't happen. And yet they pursue it while at the same time ignoring the real crimes that they participated in themselves. And that's why I say all of this is an ongoing continued cover-up. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Check mate, Rush. All true. All right. That's all the time we have. We will always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. Quick programming note. Don't forget. Set your alarm. Wake up early. You can watch the entire interview, Ainsley's interview with President Trump tomorrow morning on "FOX & FRIENDS" starting at 6 a.m. We hope you will tune in. Also tonight at 11 p.m. Shannon Bream has an exclusive interview with one of the Paul Manafort jurors. That's tonight at 11. All right. As always, thank you for being with us. And let not your heart be troubled. The news never stops. It continues in second for a second, filling in for Ingraham, former Congressman Jason Chaffetz. Sir? 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All right, as always, thank you for being with us. And let not your heart be troubled. The news never stops. It continues second after second. Filling in for Ingraham, former Congressman Jason Chaffetz. Sir? JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS HOST: Thank you, Sean. I appreciate it. Great show as always. Good evening and welcome to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE live from New York City. I am Jason Chaffetz filling in for Laura Ingraham who is on vacation. Major developments on multiple big stories tonight. You'll want to stay with us for the entire hour. Mollie Tibbetts' alleged killer, an illegal immigrant arraigned in court today. Fox News is the only network fully covering the case, and there are new developments tonight. Raymond Arroyo is here for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we will dissect some of the wild stories from the far left. A bizarre sex scandal and cage free animal crackers. And in Texas, a senate candidate -- senate candidate says he has no problem with the NFL players kneeling during the national anthem. We will have the tape to prove it. Plus, more immigration madness in California. There's a hotline to tip off illegal immigrants about ICE raids. More on this unbelievable story later in the hour. But first, Democrats and the left are absolutely salivating, absolutely giddy over the legal trouble faced by former Trump associates Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort. Some are even waving the impeachment card. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DON LEMON, CNN SHOW HOST: Jack, are we in the impeachment territory here? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sure. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Should the president be more worried about impeachment than before because of what has happened today? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, I think he should and I think he is. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This may very well be a high crime of misdemeanor for impeachment. LAWRENCE O'DONNELL, MSNBC HOST: The Trump presidency took a giant step towards impeachment. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: But the White House maintains President Trump isn't concerned because he hasn't done anything wrong. President Trump spoke to "Fox & Friends" Ainsley Earhardt earlier today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) AINSLEY EARHARDT, FOX & FRIENDS SHOW HOST: Did you know about the payment? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Later on, I knew. Later on. But you have to understand, Ainsley, what he did and they weren't taken out of campaign finance. That's a big thing. That's a much bigger thing. Did they come out of the campaign? They didn't come out of the campaign. They came for me and when you look at President Obama, he had a massive campaign violation but he had a different attorney general and they viewed it a lot differently. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: That full interview will air tomorrow on "Fox & Friends." Joining me now with reaction are Dan Bongino, an NRA television contributor, Richard Goodstein, a former advisor to Bill and Hillary Clinton and David Avella, a Republican strategist. Gentlemen, thank you so much for being here. You know, as I look at this situation, I see the Democrats saying, aha! We finally got it. Of course it has nothing to do with Russia or collusion, but Richard, who is joining me here in the studio, I want to ask you first, have you ever heard of a famous, wealthy, you know, public personality who may be made a payment to make sure that something didn't get out in the public or does that just happen to presidential candidates running for office? RICHARD GOODSTEIN, FORMER ADVISOR TO THE CLINTON: I've never heard about it with a winning presidential candidate was actually caught on tape talking about the very thing that he's now and before denied to the public. And can I just ask one thing? CHAFFETZ: And as an attorney, does that strike you as concerning? Take away Trump and Cohen, but is that normal for an attorney to tape his clients when they're meeting? GOODSTEIN: Of course not. But can I just ask one thing? Lock her up? How is it that everybody in Donald Trump's orbit, his campaign manager and his deputy campaign manager, his national security advisor, his lawyer are criminals. Admitted criminals are found by juries. And I think the list is going to go on. So, look, Donald Trump took a step backwards yesterday in terms of his viability politically. I think Democrats who are pouncing on this are making a huge mistake. And in fact, there's a reason Nancy Pelosi and others have said to candidates running, this is not the card you are playing. You want to talk about the fact that Republicans will take away pre- existing condition coverage and other issues that Democrats think they can campaign on. Impeachment should absolutely not be one of them. CHAFFETZ: And I think you're right because I think this is a distraction. I don't see Democratic leadership and I don't see them talking about any issues, but I see a guy like Mike Quigley -- he's actually a respectable member of the Democratic (inaudible) saying yeah, impeachment. And that's what I think is concerning here, but -- GOODSTEIN: He is not alone. CHAFFETZ: And no doubt it was not necessarily a good day for Donald Trump to have close advisors, but to say it's everybody in his orbit is a little bit much. GOODSTEIN: Well, a lot of -- we haven't had a president since Richard Nixon who had people -- who now criminals. They are not suspects. They are not people who are under -- these are people that have either pled guilty or been found guilty. That's unusual. Sorry. CHAFFETZ: Dan, how do you read the situation? I mean, I don't see any Russia here. I don't see any collusion. I see a special prosecutor going a different direction. What's your read on it? DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Richard, give me 10 minutes and your personnel file, add all your jobs and subpoena power and my prior time as a federal agent and I promise I'll make a criminal out of you too. I can promise you that by the way. Everybody in the United States has probably broken some federal law at some point whether they know it or not. And what Richard is failing to tell you, as sadly he does often. I like you, Richard, but your ability to spin stuff is almost unmatched. Maybe Chris Hahn, you are a close second. But I tell you, this thing started Jason, as a Russian collusion investigation. What do we have? We have taxicab confessions. We have a couple people accused of fibbing. And then Richard takes that to mean that everybody in the Trump orbit is a criminal? By the way, here's a guy who supported the Clintons who had Hubbell, Susan McDougall. We had a whole lot of people around the Clintons too. It's amazing how they found this moral clarity just now. Incredible. CHAFFETZ: David, has there been equal justice under the law or does it seem a little bit lopsided to you? DAVID AVELLA, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: During the Clinton administration, it was Richard and the Democrats who were screaming that someone's personal matters are not an impeachable offense. And here we are now, 20 years later, and it's a personal matter that the president was handling. It's somehow now a campaign violation because he used personal money. Well, if that's their new standard then let's start the investigation because did Elizabeth Warren pay lawyers to help her get out of her situation, claiming to be a Native-American to get an advantage at Harvard? Or let's go to Bernie Sanders. Did he pay a lawyer to help his wife get out of trouble in her scandal of trying to raise money at her college? Let's go back to Elizabeth Warren for a second -- CHAFFETZ: Go ahead Richard. GOODSTEIN: David. David, what the Trump -- here's the difference. AVELLA: There is a -- Richard, hold on a second. There is the 2020 candidate that is facing a problem today. And that is Elizabeth Warren. After her disgusting comment about Mollie Tibbetts. CHAFFETZ: David, let Richard respond. GOODSTEIN: The Trump organization, according to this indictment, said Michael Cohen pled guilty to lied on his record saying that the money it reimbursed Michael Cohen for paying off Stormy Daniels was legal expenses. That's a lie. That's dishonest. That's a violation of law. CHAFFETZ: But isn't that why you hire an attorney? I mean, you give them the money so that they do it legally and lawfully, right? GOODSTEIN: No. Then you listed as paying off somebody for their silence, not as legal expenses. That's money that went to here. She is not a lawyer. He is a lawyer. I wasn't paying -- CHAFFETZ: And is that what Mark Elias did and what he did with the dossier money? All those millions of dollar -- did that get fully disclosed? No, those were paid to attorneys and those attorneys is what funded this dirty dossier, right? GOODSTEIN: Well, they weren't trying to buy anybody's silence? Let me just say one thing. CHAFFETZ: They were trying to buy a dirty dossier. GOODSTEIN: Can we be spared the argument that this was done not because Donald Trump was running for president, because he wanted to be spared any embarrassment with his wife something that he did with Stormy Daniels in 2006. And by some coincidence in October 25th of 2016, all of a sudden, that embarrassment was really going to do him in. Please. CHAFFETZ: You don't think like -- Don, one of the things, sorry, Dan. One of the things I am concerned about is the proximity of Lanny Davis in this situation. I mean, here you have somebody who's from the Clinton orbit. All the attorneys in the world and they go and get Lanny Davis. Is that suspicious to you? BONGINO: Yes, these are possibly the two dopiest lawyers on the planet, Cohen and Lanny Davis. They actually -- Lanny Davis actually convinced another lawyer to plead guilty to a crime that doesn't exist. This is incredible. No matter what Richard tells you about these FEC violations -- I ran for office. Congressman, you ran too. I lost, you won. Stinks being on the losing side. But I'm pretty familiar with election law. This is not a crime. This is at worst, at worst a civil violation that I don't even think its bad. Me running for office, I can donate to my campaign unlimited sums. Yes, I would have to report that, but this is debatable if this was even a campaign payment. Why? Richard is trying to debate it right here. Richard, let's be honest. You have no idea why Donald Trump paid this money. You can speculate. Fair enough, which you're doing. You can say, oh, he didn't want to spare embarrassment -- GOODSTEIN: Can I just say one quick thing? BONGINO: You don't know that. GOODSTEIN: Can I just say one quick thing? These same people who would buy the fact that Donald Trump meant to say would or wouldn't to Vladimir Putin, would believe the notion that on October 25th, he paid off Stormy Daniels from something 10 years ago, having nothing to do with the presidential campaign. That same person would believe that, but nobody else in the country would. BONGINO: Well Richard, listen, I didn't -- all right, I didn't call you up but I let you get it, OK. Is Stormy Daniels Russian or is she Kremlin connected? Do you have information we don't? I'm serious. It's a serious question. Do you have anything? GOODSTEIN: Look, if you're asking me do I think (inaudible) could come out of the Russia investigation? BONGINO: OK, thanks. GOODSTEIN: (Inaudible) we'll see when Mueller's done. CHAFFETZ: OK, but let's keep all of this -- I got to switch gears here a little bit because Lanny Davis said something that I actually think is pretty important. Listen to him this morning on MSNBC. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHUCK TODD, MSNBC SHOW HOST: Can you say definitively whether you know if Michael Cohen ever was in Prague in 2016? LANNY DAVIS, MICHAEL COHEN'S LAWYER: Never, never in Prague. Di I make that? Never, never in Prague. TODD: Never in Prague. DAVIS: Ever. Ever. And the reason just let your viewers know what you're talking about, is that the dossier, so called mentions his name 14 times. One of which is a meeting with Russians in Prague. Fourteen times false. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: That's a pretty strong statement, the 14 times. Again, going back to this core of the dossier, but David, as you look at this, how do you read that? That's a pretty important development. AVELLA: It is an important development just as Lanny Davis said this morning on "America's Newsroom," the reason he was willing to take Michael Cohen on was because Michael Cohen wanted to take down President Trump. Look, Gloria Allred tried to use personal information during the 2016 campaign to defeat Donald Trump and she wasn't successful. And what this really means is in 76 days, if you want Congress to spend two years on investigation and on impeachment, you vote Democrat. And if you want the Congress to focus on job creation policies, securing our border, and annoying the media, you vote Republican. CHAFFETZ: Last word, 10 seconds. GOODSTEIN: And I think mostly, David, what the public wants is a check on Donald Trump. I mean, rightly or wrongly, I think that's what the polling is telling us. And the fact that again, the first two people in Congress who endorsed his campaign are now criminal defendants, I just think there's a sense of corruption that the public wants to kind of at least put some breaks on if possible. We will see. CHAFFETZ: Bob Menendez. GOODSTEIN: We'll see. CHAFFETZ: Gentlemen, thank you. I appreciate all three of you for joining us tonight. So let me get this straight, while Cohen and Manafort are facing serious prison sentences, everyone in Hillary Clinton's orbit is getting off scot- free. And what about the surveillance of members of the Trump campaign? No charges filed on that and no evidence that the special prosecutor is pursuing that. This all sounds like a two-tiered system of justice to me. Raising questions is the second special counsel needed. Joining me now for reaction are two lawyers, former U.S. attorney Kendall Coffey and Bryan Rotella, CEO and senior partner of GenCo Legal. I appreciate you both being here. I want to get your perspective as attorneys. This whole issue of attorney-client privilege, if you would go out and hire an attorney to do something, I presume that you do it to make sure that it's done legally and lawfully. And you have some protections in being able to give that information and make those things move forward. So, as you look at this situation, Kendall, isn't that a plausible story or scenario? How did that just only fall apart in the Cohen situation? KENDALL COFFEY, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: Sure, and that's why we can charge the big bucks. Clients trust us. They trust us with confidentiality. They trust us with figuring all this out. Campaign finance laws are especially complicated, especially federal campaign finance laws. So, I strongly suspect not only did the president have no idea that somebody might put this on a prosecution radar screen someday, but I doubt Michael Cohen did. Because what is being talked about is a federal crime, was unsuccessfully raised against John Edwards. You remember that years ago -- CHAFFETZ: Right. COFFEY: -- discredited as a theory. And most people think if he use personal money that goes to some private person in order to deal with personal issues, that's not a campaign contribution. CHAFFETZ: Bryan, are we supposed to believe that every conversation now that Donald Trump has had with his attorney is somehow part of what the special counsel gets to look at? I think there is some sort of limitation because that attorney-client privilege isn't just waived on all of these issues, correct? BRYAN ROTELLA, CEO AND SENIOR PARTNER, GENCO LEGAL: Yes, Jason. I mean, look, for your audience, anyone who heard this allocution that Michael Cohen gave yesterday, and an allocution might sound like something from "The Sopranos." You know, I'm Italian-American and the folks would get up in front of the court and they would attest that there was a thing called the mafia in the United States. I'm not sure if the president should nickname Michael Cohen either better- not-call-Saul or Captain Obvious. I mean, that's pretty obvious when he got up and said yesterday, which is that the president, there are women that he was having relationships with outside of his marriage and that he thought that that might impact his view -- the folks' view on the election. To me there is nothing criminal about that, and getting to your question, as a lawyer, attorney-client privilege is the one sacred thing we have. Lawyers have terrible reputations so I think Kendall would even agree, unfortunately we have it for a reason a lot of times. And it looks like to me that Donald Trump has found himself in the Jurassic Park of lawyers. I mean, I'm waiting for the next raptor lawyer to come out of this thing between Lanny Davis -- and I was listening to your last segment who, you know, the stuff that he did back in the `90s, some of the things that we are seeing now with Cohen. And then also let's not forget that Jim Comey is an attorney. And you know very well Jason, look with that attorney did in his findings back on July 5th of 2016 when he found that Hillary Clinton was "extremely careless with her e- mails." CHAFFETZ: Yes. ROTELLA: -- of which by the way was a standard change by our favorite FBI character, Peter Strzok. CHAFFETZ: Believer me, that's a whole another set of subjects we can talk about there. What is highly suspicious to me is that Donald Trump's former attorney is suddenly represented by somebody from the Clinton orbit, Lanny Davis. And Lanny has a duty and responsibility under the law to protect his client. But I want to play a clip from Lanny Davis here and I want you to ask yourselves at home, is Lanny Davis working in the best interests of his client, Mr. Cohen or is he working in the best interest of his own personal political beliefs. Watch this clip. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BERMAN, CNN HOST: Will Michael Cohen seek a pardon from the president of the United States for any of this? DAVIS: The answer is definitively no under no circumstances since he came to the judgment after Mr. Trump's election to the president of the United States, that his suitability is a serious risk to our country. And certainly after Helsinki, creates serious questions about his loyalty to our country. His answer would be no, I do not want a pardon from this man. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Are you kidding me? If you are an attorney for somebody who is now pleading guilty to a felony, you wouldn't accept a pardon from the president of the United States? How in the world can you make a case that that's in the best interests of his client, Mr. Cohen? Kendall, what are your thoughts? COFFEY: Well, I think it sounds like positioning. I am sure Lanny Davis had some conversation with his client as well as his co-counsel before he launched into that. I think anybody would accept a pardon from about anybody who was president. It is so much better than the alternatives. CHAFFETZ: Well, and I think he is doing it for some political posturing. But Bryan, what is your take on it? ROTELLA: Jason, I think it is comical that Lanny Davis is Michael Cohen's lawyer. I mean, for folks that may not remember, Lanny Davis was as entrenched in the 90s with the Clintons as episodes of Friends in blockbuster video. I mean, he was part of a culture. He is one of their best friends and that's who's the attorney for Michael Cohen. So the fact that one of your previous guests said that he got up and said what he said in couyrt, which I don't believe is a crime. It's Captain Obvious of something about President Trump. And if that's all that evidence that we've seen today about anything that has to do with President Trump in this investigation, I think it raises a lot of questions to folks out in America who are wondering what's all the billable hours going on in the Mueller investigation? That's all on the taxpayer's dime and I think they're probably pretty sick of it. CHAFFETZ: Yes, and I would love to find out who is funding Lanny Davis in this and what his political motivations are. Gentlemen, thank you so much. You wouldn't know it by watching MSNBC but there were new developments in the Mollie Tibbetts case today. Ed Henry will be here next with the report. CHAFFETZ: A tragic story. You know what, as a parent, I can't even imagine what went on in Iowa and what the family is going through, but a tragic story out of Iowa. College student, Mollie Tibbetts, found dead yesterday after a 34-day search and we had a lot of hope that they would actually find her, but they didn't. And her alleged killer, an illegal immigrant was in court for the first time today. Ed Henry is here with the latest on this terrible, tragic story. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It really is a terrible story, Jason. Good to talk to you tonight. New tonight, Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is saying she knows it's hard for the family of Mollie Tibbetts to deal with this tragedy, but the nation, she says, should focus instead on what she called real problems like illegal aliens being separated at the border from their kids. Now, the president is firing back tonight with a video on twitter that says it's Mollie Tibbetts who is now personally, permanently separated from her family. Cristhian Rivera today, we got a glimpse of him, the illegal alien charged with first-degree murder in the death of Mollie Tibbetts, appeared in striped prison garb and shackles in the county court in Iowa. ICE agents say he's from Mexico and has been in the United States illegally for up to seven years. Police say Rivera confessed that on July 18th, he followed Mollie Tibbetts during her nightly jog. She pleaded with him to knock it off, stop trailing her, warning that she would call the police on her cellphone. Rivera claims at that point he blacked out and when he woke up, Tibbetts was in his trunk with a bloody skull. Police say the suspect led them to a corn field where they found what they believed to be Tibbets' body. Rivera worked at Yarrabee Farms not far from there. An official at the farm initially claimed they had put him through the federal e-verify system but then clarified that had not happened. As the president, as I mentioned a moment ago, tweeted out a video expressing his sympathy to the Tibbets family and saying this case shows that massive reforms of the nation's immigration laws is simply long- overdue. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DANE LANG, YARRABEE FARMS CO-OWNER AND MANAGER: We screen every applicant through the social security administration's social security number verification service. In addition, we ran that information to the verification service and the information came back verified. Our employee was not who he said he was. TRUMP: Nobody has laws like the United States. They are strictly pathetic. We need new immigration laws. We need new border laws. The Democrats will never give them, and the wall is being built. We have started it. But we also need the funding for this year's building of the wall. So, to the family of Mollie Tibbetts, all I can say is god bless you. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: With that video as well as the president's mention of Tibbetts at the political rally last night in West Virginia, a defense attorney said in court today given all those comments, quote, "at the highest level of government, the media should be blocked from the courtroom to ensure a fair trial." The judge denied that move, meaning this is going to get a lot of media attention, Jason. CHAFFETZ: Well, good decision from the court. And Ed, thanks. I appreciate you joining us. HENRY: Good to see you. CHAFFETZ: Very upsetting. And I would like to note, Fox News is the only cable news outlet to air the arraignment of Mollie's alleged killer today. Joining me now with the reaction is Francisco Fernandez, he's an immigration attorney and Art Arthur, a fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies. In full disclosure, when I was chairman of the House Oversight Government Reform Committee, Art Arthur was an employee there for some time, and a good one, at that. Gentlemen, thank you for being here. Francisco, I want to ask you, do you think it's legitimate that news outlets cover this story? FRANCISCO FERNANDEZ, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: I think news outlets ought to cover what they want to cover. I don't think we can blame 11 million people for a murder of one person. CHAFFETZ: Nobody did that. Wait, wait, wait. FERNANDEZ: -- name one person. CHAFFETZ: I've never done that. Who blamed 11 million people? FERNANDEZ: You just did. Well, you just did and the president just said that immigration reform is long overdue. CHAFFETZ: And do you agree with that? Do you agree that immigration reform is due? FERNANDEZ: I do agree with that. We have been saying that for 18 years. CHAFFETZ: OK, so what's the problem? Why are we even here politicizing the death of a young lady? FERNANDEZ: You are making money. You are getting ratings of a death of a young lady and trying to blame 11 million people in this country for the murder of one murder (ph) and who -- CHAFFETZ: So you don't think it's relevant -- you don't think it's relevant that this person is here illegally? FERNANDEZ: It is relevant that the person committed a murder. (Inaudible) effects 11 million people. Who the president agrees we ought to have an immigration form? Why are we mixing the two? CHAFFETZ: And do you agree that if this person wasn't in this country, this murder would not have occurred? FERNANDEZ: We don't know whether that would have happened. CHAFFETZ: No, we wouldn't. The answer is simple. It would have never happened. If he was not in this country, he would've never murdered that young lady. FERNANDEZ: OK. All right, so I will give you that so let's reform the law. Is that going to stop the murder? It's not. So stop politicizing it. CHAFFETZ: Now, how is that politicizing? Look, let me show you this poll. FERNANDEZ: You're putting it on primetime, that's politicizing. CHAFFETZ: Francisco. Hold on. Francisco, look at this poll that was done by Gallup. It's a survey of over 1,000 Americans. Put this poll up on the screen. The number one issue that Americans view is the top problem facing the United States of America -- FERNANDEZ: Yes. CHAFFETZ: -- immigration. FERNANDEZ: And what happened to the wall? CHAFFETZ: The number one issue. And so it is legitimate. Francisco. FERNANDEZ: What happened to the wall? And what happened to Mexico paying for the wall? CHAFFETZ: And you know what happens? Hey Francisco, you build that wall, families don't get separated. They don't get separated. And they don't come here illegally. FRANCISCO: You build that wall and this murder would not have happened? Are you saying this murder would not have happened if you build that wall? What happened building the wall? CHAFFETZ: Yes, because he wouldn't be here illegally? FRANCISCO: What happened -- he had been here long before Trump came along. He doesn't even have a dollar to build one brick of the wall. CHAFFETZ: Yes, because we got it open, porous (ph) border. Art Arthur, what's your take on this? FRANCISCO: I think not. CHAFFETZ: Art was a judge in the immigration system. He's well aware of the situation. Please weigh in on this. ART ARTHUR, FELLOW, CENTER FOR IMMIGRATION STUDIES: If he hadn't been in the United States, this murder never would've occurred. The fact is every murder is senseless. This one was needless. The president's 100 percent correct. Not all immigrants are criminals. In fact, the vast majority aren't. But the ones who are, are. They need to be removed from the United States. We need to do away with sanctuary laws who protect criminal aliens. We need to enforce immigration laws so we can keep people who have no right to be in the United States out of the United States. This is a murder that could've been prevented. CHAFFETZ: And Art, one of my deep concerns here is that look, if you have these other networks that aren't covering it, I wonder why they are not. This is one of the most high-profile murders that was out there and they don't cover it. It strikes me because it doesn't fit their political narrative. They don't want that story out there. You think I'm going too far? ARTHURE: This was a case that was covered for an entire month, as people were looking for this young woman. Her father was desperate trying to find her. Every network covered it. As soon as the narrative changed, the story got dropped because it didn't fit the narrative that the networks wanted to carry. It's that simple. CHAFFETZ: And Francisco, do you believe that it's right to abolish Immigration Customs Enforcement? Are you one that says yes, we should abolish ICE? FERNANDEZ: No, I've never said that. CHAFFETZ: I'm asking you. Do you believe that? FERNANDEZ: No, absolutely not. ICE only does what Congress tells them to do. Now, let me bring you back to the immigration reform. Republicans are in the majority. Why don't we pass immigration reform now? We could've passed one President Trump first took office and we are still stuck in the mud. CHAFFETZ: It's because you can't get to 60 votes in the Senate. That's the number one issue. Donald Trump went way -- FERNANDEZ: -- filibuster. CHAFFETZ: No, Francisco, Donald Trump went way above and beyond and even offered to take care of the dreamers, and the Democrats wouldn't even come to the table and have the discussion. That's exactly what happened. FERNANDEZ: (Inaudible) what happened. We have not had a single vote. Let's have a vote and let the Democrats -- CHAFFETZ: Yes, I also -- I also sat there. I was on the immigration subcommittee when the Democrats have the House and Senate and the president -- FERNANDEZ: No, we are talking about now. We are talking about now. We are talking about the majority -- CHAFFETZ: I am also telling you that you're trying to make a case. No -- FERNANDEZ: -- immigration reforms. Put a up a bill. Put up a bill for immigration reform now, put it up to vote and see what happens. CHAFFETZ: Francisco, do you believe they should build a wall? Wait, let me ask you -- what do you think is the Republican motivation in building the wall? FRANCISCO: Build it. We're going to have to legalize 100,000 Mexicans to build it right anyway and that's a darn good start. Let's get going with immigration reform. Let's stop talking about it. CHAFFETZ: OK, good. Build the wall. Art, do you think we should build a wall and why? ARTHUR: I think that we should build a wall, we should erect barriers to prevent individuals from coming into the United States illegally, to stop contraband from coming into the United States illegally. You and I both investigated instances where there were drugs, were there were dangerous materials that came over the border. We need to stop that. The fact is, that border is porous, it's wide open and it need to be closed. CHAFFETZ: Gentlemen, thank you. Thank you, both. Remember, at the end of this, you still have this horrific murder that should have never, ever happened. That doesn't mean that everybody that's here illegally is responsible. It means that person killed that person, but we want to prevent those things. And those things should be at the top of our agenda in dealing with this, it's what the American people wants Congress to address, and it should. Raymond Arroyo will be here next with more on the Me Too hypocrisy, plus a report on why animal crackers are on the loose. "Seen and Unseen" is up next. CHAFFETZ: It is time now for our "Seen and Unseen" where we expose what's behind the big cultural stories of the day. There are some major hypocrisy coming from one of Harvey Weinstein's most vocal accusers. FOX News contributor, and author of the "Will Wilder" series, Raymond Arroyo is here with the latest. Raymond, what's going on with this Asia Argento situation? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Jason, Asia Argento is this actress who was on the forefront of the Me Too movement. She called out Harvey Weinstein, claimed he abused her. Now a 22-year-old man came forward, Jimmy Bennett, to say she abused him when he was 17. She denies those allegations, and she released a statement. I'll read it to you. She said "I am deeply shocked and hurt by having read news that is absently false. I have never had any sexual relationship with Bennett." Today TMZ released images of the two of them together in 2013 when Jimmy Bennett was 17 and Ms. Argento was 37. Also they released a text message exchange where she tells a friend of hers, and we'll put it on the screen. "I had sex with him. It felt weird. I didn't know he was a minor until the shakedown letter." She paid him $380,000, working this out with Anthony Bourdain with whom she was involved. Now the Los Angeles police are investigating this, and she has been bumped off the "X Factor" in Italy which is a show she's a part of. When I look at this, Jason, and I look at the Catholic Church going through its own passion of sorts on these types of issues, everybody's got to be held to the same standard, no matter your gender, no matter what you believe. People need to -- if you are a victim of this abuse, you have to come forward. And the authorities should get involved. But the broad brushing we have been seeing of men or people of a certain religious persuasion should be put on the backburner and every one of these cases should be evaluated on their merits. And I hope that's what happens both in Hollywood and in the Catholic Church and elsewhere. CHAFFETZ: No, it's a sad story all around. There are victims, men and women. And Harvey Weinstein certainly, I hope it doesn't hurt the case against him because it sounds like one of the most horrific out there. But I've got to transition something that's a little closer to my personal heart, and that is the box for those of Barnum animal crackers. You don't get a belly like mine by passing up on those Barnum crackers. But what gives with this change? ARROYO: We all grew up on Barnum animals crackers. I bit the heads off of those suckers my whole life. Now they are changing the design of the box, Jason. Remember it used to be the boxcar which you're seeing with all the little animals on it. CHAFFETZ: I felt safe. They were locked up. ARROYO: This is the new design. The animals are free. And I will tell you where this came from, PETA. PETA, the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, petitioned Nabisco. They said we've got to loose these animals. Here's what they said. Given the egregious cruelty inherent in circuses that use animals and the public swelling opposition to the exploitation of animals used for entertainment, we urge Nabisco to update its packaging. Remember, PETA is the same organization, Jason, that put the Barnum and Bailey Circus out of business because they were upset with the treatment of animals and featuring animals. And all of this brought to mind for me what other mascots or major spokesman might need revision, given the political correct times we are in. CHAFFETZ: What do you think? ARROYO: The first one I thought was the Pillsbury doughboy. This poor little fella has been poked and assaulted his entire existence. It is time to reimagine. Maybe not poke at the little guy anymore. Then I thought of the peanut, Mr. Peanut. Remember Mr. Peanut. You see him on all those packaging and commercials. He has got the cane and a top hat and a monocle. He is very socially elitist, I think. It's time to put him in a baseball cap and maybe sneakers. Get him down with the peeps. That's what we need. And then I thought about Tony the Tiger. Everybody grew up with Tony the Tiger. But where are the pants on Tony the Tiger? In the Me Too generation, he really should have trousers, I think. And that goes for the Pillsbury doughboy. CHAFFETZ: I've never thought of that, and I'm sad that you brought that up because next time I eat my Frosted Flakes. And I've got to tell you that that camel does not get enough credit in those Barnum crackers, either, not even on the cover. There's a lot of wild camels running around in Utah. Finally, a Wisconsin tech company making some strange offers. What in the world is this? ARROYO: It's a company called Three Square Market. They are a tech company. And they want to make it easier for their employees to open doors, access their computers, get into the parking lot. So they have implanted microchips, and 80 employees have taken them up on the deal. They've implanted microchips between the index finger and the thumb for their employees. Here's the CEO. He says they love it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TODD WESTBY, CEO, THREE SQUARE MARKET: The vast majority of our employees absolutely love the conveniences that having this chip in their hand really brings to them. We did this, honestly, initially just for fun because that's what a technology company does. And now it has evolved into a whole other business which we are in development right now of an actual chip that will be powered by the human body. What we have really done a sort of made it acceptable or brought in the forefront where people are now talking about it. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: They are talking about it, all right. This is not something I want to try out. I don't know about you, Jason. CHAFFETZ: How fat and lazy is America that they can't lift their badge up and put it up against -- they think it's fun to embed in your body a chip? ARROYO: It raises privacy issues, tracking issues. If they can take your credit card information by swiping you in a crowd with a scanner, imagine what they can do with a microchip in your hand. The other thing is, what happens when you quit? Do they take the hand off? What do you do with the hand? CHAFFETZ: If you ever change a job, you're exactly right. I hadn't thought about that. Hey, PETA, what do you think of that when I put a chip and my dog so he doesn't get lost? ARROYO: I think that would be cruelty, Jason. CHAFFETZ: I am saving the dog's life so I can actually find her and bring her home. (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: Well, don't do that. CHAFFETZ: Raymond, thank you, thank you. ARROYO: Great to see you. CHAFFETZ: I really do appreciate it. Fun stuff. You won't believe what a rising star in the Democratic Party said about NFL players kneeling during the National Anthem. Stay with us. CHAFFETZ: You are not going to believe this one. Beto O'Rourke is a rising star in the Democratic Party and polls show him surprisingly close in a race against Ted Cruz for one of Texas' seats in the Senate. On the campaign trail he was recently asked if he thought it was disrespectful for NFL players to kneel during the National Anthem. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BETO O'ROURKE, (D-TX) SENATE CANDIDATE: My short answer is no, I don't think it's disrespectful. Peaceful, nonviolent protests, including taking a knee at a football game to point out that black men, unarmed black teenagers, unarmed, and black children, unarmed, are being killed at a frightening level right now, including by members of law enforcement, without accountability and without justice. They take a knee to bring our attention and our focus of this problem to ensure that we fix it. That is why they are doing it, and I can think of nothing more American than to peacefully stand up or take a knee for your right anytime, anywhere, anyplace. (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Nothing more patriotic. The left is praising Congressman O'Rourke on social media for those comments, but I'm not sure that's going to play well with the voters of the lone star state. We are talking about Texas. Joining me now to discuss is FOX News contributor Kevin Jackson and civil rights attorney Brian Watkins. Brian, I want to start with you. Why do you think Americans go and watch football? Why do they watch the NFL? BRIAN WATKINS, CRIMINAL DEFENSE AND CIVIL ATTORNEY: They enjoy it. It's a game. It's entertainment. It's enjoyable to watch. CHAFFETZ: Entertainment, right? WATKINS: Yes, absolutely. CHAFFETZ: And you do it as an escape, right? Do you think you want to start and kick off the game by having political statements? How does that strike you? WATKINS: I don't think you would be saying the same thing if, for example, if network executives and movie executives said to their employees, actors and actresses, hey, I don't want you talking about that Me Too movement type stuff. We don't want to bring that issue up. We are about entertainment here, so don't talk about it. I think people would have a problem with that. So I don't understand why people have a problem with young black African- American men who have the spotlight simply taking a knee. They're not asking for a soapbox to placed on the 50-yard line and give a speech and disrupt the game. You're talking about not participating in the anthem by simply silently, quietly taking a knee. CHAFFETZ: But do you understand how offensive that is to the men and women who have served this country? It's the two minutes that we take out in a bipartisan way, and we're honoring the flag, we're honoring our country, we're honoring our troops, we're trying to come together. Remember when Barack Obama said we're not the red states, we're not the blue states. We are the United States. That was a very patriotic thing to do. Even a Republican like me thought, hey, you know what, that is a great statement. We do need to become united. So the one chance that we have to come united, no matter where you are on the field or political side of the aisle, that's the thing you do is try to disturb that and distract from that? Kevin, give me your -- KEVIN JACKSON, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: So let's coverage from the Beto O'Rourke point of view. First of all, it's an insult, because what they didn't talk about was all the references he made to blacks and the oppression that blacks faced many, many years ago, decades ago, at the hands of his own party, the Democrats. And oh, by the way, what O'Rourke also failed to mention is that all the things that he's talking about with the reason why blacks are kneeling in the NFL has to do with what? It has to do with the so-called lack of civil rights by police in big cities who are run by Democrats throughout the entire political process. So what's interesting is that this is a problem for Democrats from the past and it's a problem for Democrats right now that has been created by Democrats. So he wants to talk about the kneelers. If these guys really believed in kneeling, why didn't Colin Kaepernick kneel during the Barack Obama administration? It was happening then. And when did Colin Kaepernick help any black in any city, Chicago, St. Louis, Baltimore, name the city, what has he done prior to that kneeling to help any of the blacks that are being killed in crazy numbers every weekend by other blacks? It is a disingenuous movement. For O'Rourke to hearken back to the days of civil rights as if these self- indulgent multimillionaires -- CHAFFETZ: Let me get Brian back in here. JACKSON: Let me say this, for these self-indulgent multimillionaires to want to kneel and act as if blacks are facing these issues every single day is patently ridiculous. CHAFFETZ: Brian, I see not only the protest and kneeling before the National Anthem, which I think is disrespectful to the flag, our country, and certainly to our troops. That's my take on it. I think the majority of the polling would show that. I also see people and player saying, hey, I'm not going to go to the White House. I'm not going to interact, where I think the opposite should be true. They should be saying I would actually like to meet with Donald Trump. I would actually like to meet with Republicans. Don't you think that would be more productive? WATKINS: It could be productive. And that's what America is all about is the debate. And highlighting and -- CHAFFETZ: But why during a football game? Why do you do it during the football game for goodness sakes? WATKINS: Because thousand and hundreds of thousands of people watch. And when you have the spotlight on you. JACKSON: Not anymore. WATKINS: It's their responsibility -- CHAFFETZ: Why do you think the ratings are going down? You are offending more people than you are actually gaining to your cause. And I can tell you what, NFL players when I was in Congress came and met with me and Trey Gowdy and John Ratcliffe, and we listened for them for hours and talked about the need for criminal justice reform. It was actually productive. And what you are setting back and offending people by kneeling and disrespecting the flag. JACKSON: Jason, let me say one thing. Many NFL players -- CHAFFETZ: Brian. Kevin, I will give you the last word, but you've got to go fast. WATKINS: You should not be offended by someone doing a silent protest. This is a nonviolent, silent protest that really offends and hurts no one to highlight an issue -- JACKSON: It's hurting people. It's hurting the league. CHAFFETZ: Kevin, how does it hurt people? How does it hurt somebody who is trying to watch? Why not let them just do it? JACKSON: They can do whatever they want, and the public has responded, and I think let the chips fall where they may. But I also want to give a shout out to the players who are standing for the flag and the anthem because they are unheralded. Unfortunately, it's a very small minority of young players who don't want to stand for the flag. The majority of football players get it because they understand that this is a game. CHAFFETZ: Yes, that's right, and there's a time in a place for it, and those couple minutes when we honor the flag is not the time to do it. I want to be part of that solution. When I was in Congress, I was working on criminal justice reform. And it is a legitimate issue, but it's done at the wrong time in the wrong way. That's my take on it. WATKINS: The only time and place is when the spotlight is on you. CHAFFETZ: People have plenty of spotlight. They have millions of dollars. They can have the spotlight any time. And when they are invited to the White House and they disrespect the presidency of the United States. You know how many times I got invited the White House or on the floor of the House? I didn't want to go there because Barack Obama was the president. I did out of respect. And I did it because I wanted to engage in the dialogue. That's what you do. You don't run away. Given the opportunity to go to the White House and then you don't go, and I think that's wrong. I have gone over time here. I have to leave it here. We have to talk about what's going on in San Francisco because leave it to San Francisco to trailblaze a new way to undermine ICE. Details after this. CHAFFETZ: Apparently being a sanctuary state isn't enough for California. "The New York Times" has a new piece out about the San Francisco rapid response network, a group that maintains a 24-hour hotline to tip off illegal immigrants about ICE patrols and raids. Wow, there's being soft on illegal immigration and then there's San Francisco. Joining me now for reaction is Eric Beach, a Republican strategist and co- chair of Great American Alliance, and Saman Nasseri, I hope I pronounced your name properly, an immigration attorney in San Diego. Saman, I want to ask you, do you think that this puts law enforcement, ICE officers, in danger? SAMAN NASSERI, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: I don't think this puts law enforcement or ICE officers in danger. I think it's good to have some community oversight. What would be nice to see his body cameras on the ICE officers, but this is a step to that direction. This might force them to do that because there's going to be people filming, documenting what's going on, and hopefully it stays peaceful, hopefully it stays -- CHAFFETZ: Yes, but if you know in advance that ICE is forming -- I've been on these raids, OK? I've been out there and actually done it. And they usually form in a parking lot, and then they will walk in on an area and surround the house, do some surveillance. So there is time to give them a heads up. Don't you think that that is going to put law enforcement in harm's way? NASSERI: Any time you're chasing after a fugitive, you are in harm's way. CHAFFETZ: OK, but does this make it worse or better? NASSERI: It depends of those people -- CHAFFETZ: Come on, there is only one answer. NASSERI: You can't say they're going to get tipped off, though. You have to -- CHAFFETZ: There's a hot live. There's a 24-hour hotline. That's the point. NASSERI: Right, but that's for people to show up there and make sure that they are doing their job right, not necessarily to tip the people off. CHAFFETZ: It's a tip line. That's what it's called. It's a tip line. Eric, what's your take on this? ERIC BEACH, GREAT AMERICAN ALLIANCE CO-CHAIRMAN: Not only does it put law enforcement in danger, it puts American citizens in danger. It puts the people of San Francisco in danger. If you have a hotline or a snitch line and you see law enforcement coming, what you're doing are two things. You're encouraging people to break the law, and you're also intimidating the people that you're supposed to serve, because now they are going to feel compelled to come forward if they see something and try to tell on law enforcement coming to their community. It sets a bad precedent. And again, this is something that as a political practitioner I would love for them to keep doing this. This will help us around the country. But as an American citizen, it's appalling, and I think they should remove it. If they want to do a hotline for something, try to do a hotline for the millions of feces that are around San Francisco and pick those up. CHAFFETZ: Saman, really, do you think this is going to move the situation forward? And what do you tell the spouse of an ICE officer, how do you look her or him in the eye and say your loved one is going on this raid tonight, by the way, the target of who they are going after is going to be tipped off. What do you say that person? NASSERI: You can't guarantee that the target is going to be tipped off. The community might be, but that doesn't mean the target is going to be tipped off. But I think what this comes down to is the frustration in the immigration community in general of nothing moving forward. Nothing is happening. Whether you are on the side of pro undocumented, or you want immigration reform, your anti-illegal immigrant -- CHAFFETZ: Donald Trump has an offer on the table that Chuck Schumer and the Democrats are never responded to in terms of -- he went further than I would have ever gone in of dealing with the DACA kids and all that. Eric, I'll leave you the last words here. BEACH: So they are frustrated so they get to break the law? The only thing I disagree with -- CHAFFETZ: And by the way, I don't think it's necessarily breaking the law. I think they have a First Amendment right to do this. NASSERI: It's not breaking the law. BEACH: It is breaking the law. If you are informing and telling on law enforcement agents because you're breaking the law by being here as an illegal citizen, so you are already breaking the law. But again, they talk about immigration reform and say we're going to do something about it and then snitch on law enforcement officials puts them in danger and puts Americans in danger. And I'll say this -- CHAFFETZ: Gentlemen, thank you. I've got to cut it off. We'll be right back. CHAFFETZ: That's all the time we have tonight. Be sure to follow me on Twitter. I'm @JasonintheHouse, @JasonintheHouse. And a reminder, check out my new book. It's an upcoming book. You can order it now. It will ship in September. It's called "The Deep State, How an Army of Bureaucrats Protected Barack Obama and is Working to Destroy the Trump Agenda." I spent eight and a half years in Congress and eight and a half months writing it. If you want to know what it's about, that's the book, "The Deep State." Please go order it now. I'd appreciate it. But up next, as you know, one of my favorite people, Shannon Bream. She's got an amazing interview coming up tonight. Shannon? Load-Date: August 23, 2018 End of Document Mueller's Never-Ending Witch-Hunt Continues; Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 21, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7864 words Byline: Sean Hannity Guests: Andrew McCarthy, David Schoen, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Mark Levin, Geraldo Rivera, Sebastian Gorka Body Mueller's Never-Ending Witch-Hunt Continues; Manafort Found Guilty on Eight Counts, Mistrial Declared On Other 10 Counts; President Trump Holds Rally in West Virginia; Michael Cohen Pleaded Guilty to Prosecutors for Obstructing Justice and He Could Face Few Years in Prison for the Charges Against Him; A Lot of People Have Weighed in on the Mueller Probe that they Say Everyone in the Team is Trying to Squeeze People like Manafort and Michael Cohen for Information against President Trump in Order to Impeach Him; Another Young, Innocent College Student Was Killed by an Illegal Immigrant and President Trump Was Calling for People to Vote Republicans in the Coming Midterms so that the House and the Senate Can Change Immigration Laws to Protect Americans SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Tucker, thank you. And what an incredible news night. Major breaking news: Robert Mueller's partisan witch hunt and guess what? It has nothing to do with Russian collusion. Nothing. Paul Manafort earlier today found guilty of the eight of 18 charges all related to bank and tax fraud. No Russia collusion. Michael Cohen pled guilty. Eight counts of bank fraud, tax fraud, minor campaign finance violations, far worse has been committed by others. No Russia collusion. And once again, the sentencing of Michael Flynn delayed. Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI investigators that didn't think he was lying. And no Russia collusion. George Papadopoulos now considering a withdrawal of the guilty plea. He lied to investigators. Nothing to do with Russia collusion. Coming up, we explain why each of the men were targeted by team Mueller, none of it about the Russia collusion. Just their connection to the president? Is it dangerous to be friends with Donald Trump? We're going to call out what is the blatant, single, most disgusting two- tiered justice system that we've ever seen in our country's history. We'll show you how the president is reacting to breaking developments as he just wrapped up a massive rally in West Virginia. And finally, tonight, we have such sad disturbing news. The body of missing Iowa jogger Mollie Tibbetts was found. An illegal immigrant now charged with her murder. All right. It's time for tonight's breaking news. You won't hear anywhere else opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Buckle up. Stay with us for the entire hour. We will give you information, I promise, and perspective that you will not get anywhere else, as the media is once again besides themselves with false reporting, speculation and hysteria. Yes, Paul Manafort was found guilty after a Northern Virginia jury found him guilty of eight out of 18 counts. Jurors forced a mistrial on the other ten charges after becoming deadlocked. Now, more evidence Mueller stacking charges he couldn't prove to scare Manafort as Judge Ellis said in the beginning into singing or composing. And he was never really ready for an actual trial. By the way, Manafort worked for Trump a little over 100 days. And as we have said so many times, these are decades' old bank charges, tax fraud charges, zero to do with Russia collusion, zero to do with Donald Trump or the Trump campaign. Now, meanwhile, more breaking news today, this time in New York. Michael Cohen, he pled guilty to eight federal charges including bank, tax fraud, two minor campaign finance violations. Far worse crimes committed by others. They didn't get charged. Earlier today, Bret Baier raised this very, very important question. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRET BAIER, FOX NEWS HOST, "SPECIAL REPORT": The campaign finance violation because of the way he phrased it that he was directed by the candidate to do that and submitted that money to be repaid by the Trump Organization, that is a direct liability. But I can already see battle lines being drawn here legally, because I just got an e-mail saying the fact he pleads guilty to campaign violations does not mean that the payments were criminal violations. This did not go to trial. And you have people like former FEC chairman Bradley Smith saying the payment is not a violation, which is what Rudy Giuliani was saying in his interview earlier. So, that, you can already begin to see the Trump lawyers potentially and others making the case that this would not be a violation. Obviously, the prosecutor saying that it is. And Michael Cohen is on the hook for it now. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And meanwhile, many of the other charges against Michael Cohen surround, let's see, we go from Russia, to the family, taxi medallion company. Once again, these charges have nothing to do with the Russia collusion. From Russia collusion to taxi cabs. Hello? Now, President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani released a statement. It reads, quote, there is no allegation of any wrongdoing against the president in the government's charges against Mr. Cohen. It is clear that as the prosecutor noted, Mr. Cohen's action reflect a pattern of lies and dishonesty over a significant period of time. Now, while Michael Cohen did say today, I would argue knowing him all the years, I have known him probably forced by prosecutors. He has changed his story about whether or not Trump knew about the payment to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. Back in March, he claimed, quote, Trump did not know that he played Clifford the $130,000. A month earlier, "The New York Times", Mr. Paper of Record, that said the same thing, he paid the money out of his pocket, quote, without Trump's knowledge. And today, we learned one more piece of breaking news about another Mueller target, and that's former national security adviser, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. His sentencing has been delayed for a fourth time. 2017, he pled guilty to lying to the FBI even though James Comey later testified that, in fact, investigators did not believe that Flynn had intentionally lied. Again, this guilty plea, nothing to do with Russia. Russia, to tax returns, to fraud, to bank applications, to taxi medallions, to lying to the FBI -- nothing about Russia. Neither did the guilty plea from the Trump campaign volunteer George Papadopoulos whose wife was on last night. He pled guilty to lying to investigators. His wife, Mrs. Papadopoulos, now weighing in on his legal options and he may withdraw that plea. Without a doubt, let's be straightforward here. It is wrong. There are lessons to learn from today. Don't ever knowingly lie to the FBI, do not lie on a bank loan application ever, or commit bank fraud. Pay your taxes. But did we need Robert Mueller for all of this? Think about this. How do you go from an investigation into Russia collusion in the 2016 election and this is what we have? Taxes from years and years ago? Bank fraud? Medallions? Lying to the FBI? Where is the Russia stuff? Would any of these people that we are talking about tonight have been investigated or charged if not for their connection to Donald Trump? Is it also a lesson, OK, don't lie to the FBI pay your taxes. Don't lie on a bank application. Don't be friends with Donald Trump? Is this not now the witch hunt the president has been saying, an attempt to turn the screws as Judge Ellis said about Manafort to would-be witnesses to find dirt on one man? In other words, so that they will sing or compose to either prosecute or impeach the president of the United States. And if so, how is that not political, selective, persecution and not prosecution? Now, I don't care if you are liberal or conservative, we better look at where the country is today. We did learn valuable lessons. Pay your taxes, don't lie on a loan application, don't lie to the FBI but this is it? Robert Mueller, are you proud of this? Did we need you for 500 days for this? How did we go from Russia collusion to this? Now, today, the president reacted to Mueller's ongoing witch hunt. Let's take a look at his reaction. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I feel badly for both. I must tell you that Paul Manafort is a good man. He was with Ronald Reagan. He was with a lot of people over the years. And I feel very sad about that. It doesn't involve me but I still feel, you know, it's a very sad thing that happened. It has nothing to do with Russian collusion. This started as Russian collusion. This has absolutely nothing to do. This is a witch hunt and it's a disgrace. This has nothing to do what they started out, looking for Russians involved in our campaign. There were none. It's the way it ends up. And it was not the original mission. Believe me. It was -- it was something very much different. So, it had nothing to do with the Russian collusion. We continue the witch hunt. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Hang on. I'm looking for Russians. Oh. Now, tonight, this is not funny, because these are real people's lives, real families. This is way beyond what this mandate was. And every American that cares about our Constitution or republic, the rule of law, equal applications of our laws, you better be concerned tonight. Now, in West Virginia, the president raised an important question. Where is the collusion? He raised it again. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Fake news and the Russian witch hunt. We got a whole big combination. Where is the collusion? You know, they are still looking for collusion. Where is the collusion? Find some collusion. We want to find the collusion. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I hate to say. Equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws is dead. And I will explain in a minute. Cohen and Manafort are literally prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for bank and for tax frauds, et cetera. Let's take a look at some prominent liberals tonight, shall we? That committed similar crimes. They didn't face the same consequences. Remember tax cheat Tim Geithner? Oh, it's a name you haven't heard in a while. Underpaid taxes tens of thousands of dollars over the course of multiple years before becoming Obama's first treasury secretary. Oops. No indictment for him. Remember Al Sharpton? Remember now, he used to be guest on the show, works at conspiracy TV MSNBC, reportedly once owed millions of dollars in back taxes to the IRS. He's also fined $285,000 by the FEC over an illicit political donation. Of course, Sharpton, he is enjoying his freedom because his job talking about Michael Cohen and everybody else over at NBC. Hey, let's not forget about, remember, former New York Congressman Charlie Rangel. Remember the picture of him laying on the beach chair? He failed to pay taxes on tens of thousands of dollars in real estate income. Rangel censured in the House of Representatives. He's now enjoying his retirement. And there's former Democratic Senator Tom Daschle. Remember, Rush used to talk about the Tom Daschle show? He failed to pay 128 grand in taxes. And, look at this. Oh, even the Obama campaign in 2008, they were hit with a mere fine which at the time was a lot, 375 grand for the campaign reporting violations over $2 million worth. Cohen is now getting prison time. Somehow team Mueller missed all of those crimes. Wait. Because there is no connections to President Trump. In today's two-tier justice system, as a Democrat, clearly you can commit financial fraud and get away with it. By the way, that's just the tip of the iceberg. If you are a Democrat and you have subpoenaed information, well, first, you can mishandle and destroy classified information which violates the Espionage Act. Clearly, you can have the top intelligence, and then you can delete subpoenaed e-mails. Not one, not ten, 33,000 of them. And acid wash your hard drive with the Bleach Bit, and eliminate the evidence and then have an aide smash up your devices with hammers and get away with it. And you can have exoneration written months before you are investigated. And, by the way, the guy that is doing the interview of you hates your opponent, loves you. If your name is Donald Trump, or you are associated with Donald Trump your entire life, it's going to be scoured for potential crimes. Your doors will be kicked down late at night, early in the morning raids, the screws are going to be turned as Judge Ellis said and they will ask you to sing or compose or you will go to jail for crimes other people have committed and don't go to jail for. Ask Paul Manafort tonight. Ask Michael Cohen tonight. Ask General Flynn, boy, he served his country for 30 years. Not even the guy that interviewed him at the FBI thought he lied. Not even Comey thought he lied. Not even Peter Strzok thought he lied. Ask George Papadopoulos. I bet he regrets volunteering for the Trump campaign. Just ask the White House counsel Don McGahn. Oh, the White House counsel interrogated for 30 full hours. Trump thinks, you know, the lawyers thought, we will cooperate and we'll turn over 1.4 million documents. We'll cooperate with Mueller. It will go away, because we didn't do anything wrong. And the most exculpatory evidence is in Comey's notes. I didn't collude. I didn't conspire, but if anyone on the team did, you got -- you got to hold them accountable. Those were in Comey's notes. Now, Mueller's witch hunt is not and has never been about Russia collusion. How did we get to taxi cabs? And tax fraud. And bank fraud. And lies to the FBI? This is what we have been telling you for a long time. We have the evidence. It is an attempt at a political takedown of the man that the deep state never wanted to be the president of the United States. I will tell you tonight that the sovereignty of your vote is now in question. Before we get to our guests we have another important topic to cover. Now, for weeks, foxnews.com has been following the heart-wrenching story out of Iowa. On July 18th, a 20-year-old college student, a young girl, all of future potential, life ahead of her, Mollie Tibbetts, went missing. Today, sadly, her body was recovered. Ad now, the police have arrested an illegal immigrant they believe is responsible for her murder. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A first-degree murder charge was filed today in connection with the disappearance of Mollie Tibbetts who is last scene jogging in Brooklyn, Iowa, on July 18th, 2018. A complaint and affidavit names Cristhian Bahena Rivera age 24 who resides in rural Poweshiek County and he has been charged with murder in the first degree. We have confirmed with homeland security investigations that he is an illegal alien and we believe he has been in this area now for four to seven years. (END VIDE OCLIP) HANNITY: What happened to this young woman Mollie Tibbetts is a senseless, evil, horrific crime. Now, we believe and charges against an illegal immigrant. Tonight, we extend our deepest condolences, our prayers to the family and the friends. We will get to that in the course of the show. Now, we also have the great one, Mark Levin, is going to joining us. We got a lot of reaction to get to. We've only begun to touch the service. But joining us first for reaction to developments, we have former federal prosecutor himself, he worked at the Southern District of New York for 20 years, of big cases like the blind sheikh case and the first Trade Center bombing, Andrew McCarthy. Civil and criminal defense attorney, David Schoen. Andy, let's start here with what I think is so obvious. How did we get from Russia collusion to five years of taxes in the case of Paul Manafort? Tax and bank charges against him? And, by the way, I'm advising everyone, pay your taxes and don't lie on loan applications, don't lie to the FBI three lessons to take out tonight. How did we get from Russia collusion to this? ANDREW MCCARTHY, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: Sean, I agree with what you said about the two- tiered justice system. Because I don't think you can justify how the same or similar cases have been handled on these two different categories of people. I'm not as convinced that what we started with was Russian collusion. I really think what we started with is Russia interference in the election and that is still -- HANNITY: Well, that is what they called it, right? MCCARTHY: Supposed to be at least -- well, no. They said the collusion was one thread of an investigation into Russia's involvement in the election. I'm pretty convinced that Mueller is not pursuing a collusion case now -- HANNITY: It's obstruction case. MCCARTHY: -- against president Trump. I think it is an obstruction case. As far as Manafort goes, I don't think that Manafort -- I don't think Mueller thinks Manafort has anything with respect to Trump campaign collusion with Russia that Mueller couldn't already get from Gates who is Manafort's partner who has been cooperating for six months. I think his interest in Manafort has to do with exactly Manafort's connections to Russia. Not necessarily the Trump campaign. Until I see something different, that is what I have concluded. HANNITY: You know the Southern District of New York. It has the reputation of probably being in terms of the federal prosecution the toughest one in the country. And you worked there 20 years. Over two decades of your life. Rudy Giuliani worked there, interestingly. Very smart, aggressive, tough attorneys that work there. MCCARTHY: He hired me. HANNITY: Rudy hired you? I didn't know. We got some (INAUDIBLE) But the heart of what they are saying is -- MCCARTHY: Yes. HANNITY: -- so I have all the examples where Michael Cohen said the president didn't know he did it on his own. And that he didn't do it with any expecting payback. Michael Cohen says today said at the direction of the president. There are numerous times that he said it. Why do I think this is the special sauce that the prosecution wanted? Because remember, this was fed to them and served up to them by Robert Mueller. And again, we got taxi medallions and tax fraud. And another big question, as side note, if you can answer both, would any of the people, Flynn, Papadopoulos, Manafort, or Cohen be in trouble in any way if it weren't for the issue of Russia which didn't come up in any case? MCCARTHY: Yes, I think -- Sean, I think the last question is the easiest one to answer. These guys got on the government's crosshairs because of their connections to first candidate and now President Trump. I don't think there is any question about that. But I do think that the Cohen case ended up in the Southern District because Mueller didn't see him, Cohen, as somebody who was going to advance the Russia investigation, and the Southern District had different line of interest in Cohen. HANNITY: But let's focus on the main what he said into the direction of the president, and he previously had not. Why do I think it had to be a big part of what they wanted from Cohen to get the deal he got? Because he otherwise facing 65 years. MCCARTHY: But, Sean, it's a straight up guilty plea. It's not a cooperation agreement. I don't think they regard him as a witness. I think for precisely the reason you pointed out, you know, he has made statements all over the map. They did elicit that from him today when he gave his allocution at his guilty plea. But I think if they regarded him as valuable witness or cooperator, you'd see a very different kind of plea agreement. HANNITY: Yes, well, I do agree with that, too. David, you have seen a lot of the cases over the years and we talked about at length. Look, we have -- there are Russians issues here. Hillary paid for a phony Russian dossier with funneled money through a law firm to an op research group that hired a foreign national, which I thought was bad for our elections. And he came up with the Russian lies disseminated to the American people to impact -- that were never verified, never corroborated to impact our election. And then such information was also used as the bulk of information to get FISA warrants on the Trump campaign associate. Russian lies were used and I believe fraud was committed before four FISA court judges. None of these people, nor is Hillary Clinton, who I think has the most open and shut case on obstruction, none of them are indicted today. Why? What should the American people take from that? DAVID SCHOEN, CIVIL RIGHTS AND CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: The answer why is purely a political one. I think the American people are entitled to hold the United States attorney to his word when he said the message from the Cohen case, is that the rule of law should be applied equally and evenly across the board. We haven't seen that yet. Mr. McCarthy is exactly right that the mandate started out a question of Russian interference. I think the case today, Manafort perfectly illustrates how wrong they went in the breadth of the mandate given that Judge Ellis examined and found this case fell within that breadth. But so far beyond that, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the president certainly, but the charges today, nothing whatsoever to do with Russia. And, of course, your original question, how did it get in the Southern District? We know, for example, a member of the Mueller team comes out of the unit that prosecuted Mr. Cohen, Andrew Goldstein, comes from that unit. Let's hold the Southern District to their word and let's get past these cases that have nothing to do with the president and get on with the business that you've reported day after day. The misconduct before the FISA court is outrageous. The American people cannot withstand that kind of treachery before that kind of secret court in an ex parte proceeding. We have to have the answers and full disclosure. HANNITY: You know, doesn't it happen every day, Andy McCarthy, that people that commit fraud on their taxes and people that commit campaign finance violations, Obama $2 million worth. Cohen is about 300 grand. They only paid $375,000 fine. I have used the Hillary case. I used the fraud before the FISA judges. I wouldn't -- Andy, I wouldn't lie to any judge ever. It's dumb. I wouldn't also if I had a subpoena by Congress for my e-mails I wouldn't delete them. I wouldn't acid wash my heart drives and beat up or have somebody beat up my phones. And I think America has to look tonight and ask itself, is this a witch hunt? As the president is saying based on what we know are real crimes. And some of them actually have to do with Russia. MCCARTHY: Sean, I don't think anybody objective could look at the way the Clinton e-mail investigation was handled and the way the Trump campaign has been pursued and say that there is a single standard of justice. I don't see how that could be. At the same time, I don't want to see Mueller pursuing the investigators or what happened in the Hillary case. As I understand it, that's being looked at by the Justice Department, by the inspector general, and by Mr. Huber, the U.S. attorney from Utah, that the attorney general assigned to this. I think we ought to let them do their work. I'd rather see them do it than see Mueller do it. I think Mueller should stay focused on what he is doing and bring it to an end. HANNITY: All right. Andy McCarthy, David Schoen, thank you both for being with us. Now, earlier tonight at his West Virginia rally, President Trump asked where is the Russia collusion. Here is what he said. Apparently, we don't have that. We had it earlier. Anyway, joining us now with latest on today's news is FOX News chief national correspondent Ed Henry -- Ed. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Sean, good to see you. You're right. And before the rally, the president called the Robert Mueller investigation again a witch hunt. What's interesting is the Michael Cohen case could be more damaging for the president because in that case, he is directly implicated by Cohen, a far cry from the Manafort case with major developments today. That has nothing to do with the president, nothing to do with 2016, nothing to do with Russia collusion. The former Trump campaign chair found guilty on five counts of filing false income tax returns, one count of failing to file report of a foreign bank account, two charges of bank fraud. The jury could not reach a verdict on 10 other counts against Manafort. Prosecutors have until the end of the month to decide on a possible retrial. There is also the possibility that Manafort would be pardoned by the president who declared again as I noted that the Mueller probe is a witch hunt. He said he was deeply frustrated about that. The president though said nothing in his comments about the Cohen case, leaving it to his attorney Rudy Giuliani to provide this written statement tonight, quote: There is no allegation of any wrongdoing against the president in the government charges against Mr. Cohen. It is clear as the prosecutor noted, Mr. Cohen's actions reflect pattern of lies and dishonesty over a significant period of time. But remember, Cohen's plea deal alleges he broke the law to influence the 2016 election on behalf of a candidate. That candidate, of course, being Trump. Cohen will get prison time 43 to 63 months in charges of bank fraud, tax evasion and campaign finance charges involving payments to two women who alleged affairs with the president that he has strongly denied, Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. Now, remember, Rudy Giuliani told you in that exclusive interview back in May that no campaign finance law was broken. This plea deal contradicts that and it's going to raise questions about whether anyone else in the Trump could be implicated, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Ed Henry with that report, thank you. Joining us now with reaction, author of the "New York Times" bestseller three weeks in a row, "The Russian Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", the heart of what I'm discussing tonight, and FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett. FOX News contributor Sara Carter, who's also been covering and breaking a lot of news that apparently doesn't end up in an indictment of anybody, which is the point here. You know, look, I stand by what I say. Pay your taxes, or you are applying for a loan, don't lie. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Right. HANNITY: Don't lie to the FBI. JARRETT: That's right. HANNITY: All lessons everybody should learn. It has nothing to do with Russia, but America should be asking a question tonight if we have a two- tiered justice system. JARRETT: Oh, we totally do. I mean, there's one for Donald Trump -- HANNITY: So, we don't have a -- we don't have a -- we don't have a constitutional republic. JARRETT: No. Hillary Clinton violated the Federal Campaign Election Act in a criminal way. There is no investigation of her for that. And that here you see the feds pressuring Cohen to try to implicate President Trump. There are two reasons why his payment in exchange for a non-disclosure agreement is not an illegal campaign contribution. The law says that if there is a dual or a secondary purpose, it's not illegal. Here, President Trump had personal and commercial reasons. Second of all, the Federal Campaign Election Act is a specific intent crime if you are going to criminal criminalize it. And that means you have to prove, quote, knowingly and willfully committed a violation of the campaign law. Who is that steeped in campaign election laws to know that a non-disclosure agreement in exchange for money is a violation, so you can't even prove the case. HANNITY: Well, this is an amazing thing, too. And, look, I actually think that they wanted that line. At the behest of - - JARRETT: Oh, they did. They pressured him for the one line. HANNITY: It was 65 years -- JARRETT: They didn't care about anything else other than the one line. HANNITY: Agreed. And you know what? After all the other times that he said just the opposite -- JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: -- he was pressured to do it, and basically, if you are looking at 65 years or four or three, I'm going to take the deal. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: Most people would take the deal. Sara, your investigating reporting has shown us that we do have Russian issues here. Bought and paid for dossier, funneled money through a law firm -- SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Exactly. HANNITY: -- to Fusion GPS, which is an op research to a foreign national, which I thought was bad, apparently not if you're Hillary Clinton. On top of her obstruction case, then that money is used as the basis to lie to four FISA court judges, four separate occasions, four applications. It's all false Russian information. And we are talking about taxes. CARTER: Incredible. HANNITY: And the only thing that's common is they are friends with Trump in some way. CARTER: Incredible violations, Sean. And, remember, they did not disclose that. Hillary Clinton campaign did not disclose on their FEC. They didn't disclose that they were paying a foreign spy basically through a U.S. research firm for a dossier filled with lies from the Russians. That was something that they kept very secret until the "Washington Post" actually broke that story. And we reported over and over again, document after document where there was actual collusion. Collusion between the DOJ and the FBI -- how many people at the FBI have been removed or demoted? Over 25 people, Sean. And still nothing. And I'm going to say this. Rod Rosenstein gave carte blanche over this special counsel for Robert Mueller. And Rod Rosenstein himself signed off on the fourth FISA application on Carter Page which means he should have known everything that was contained in those FISA applications, those previous FISA applications. This is really incredible. And he wrote the letter, remember, wrote the letter for President Trump to fire Comey. So, if this is an obstruction case, isn't he a witness or a co-conspirator? Why is Rod Rosenstein in charge of this? And where is Attorney General Jeff Sessions? When is he going to stand up and do something about this? We don't even know what's happened with Huber. We don't even know what he's doing. And as far as the inspector general's report, well, that could just come out next year there. There needs to be a special counsel according to a number of sources that I've spoken with. There needs to be a special counsel in order for this not to be a two-tier justice system. HANNITY: So well said. JARRETT: There is a reason Rod Rosenstein has been obstructing Congress and in my judgment, obstructing justice. Because he is knee-deep in all of this. He signed off on the renewal without the required evidence. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The court before FISA. JARRETT: That's right. And it show Rod Rosenstein is engaged in what I suspect is a very deliberate cover-up. He's not only covering up the wrongdoing of the FBI and the Department of Justice -- and by the way, taking no action against Bruce Ohr for what he did but he is also covering up his own role. HANNITY: You have 25 people, top people between the FBI and the DOJ, that have either been fired demoted or resigned. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: OK. The top people. This is not about the rank and file. And I'm just wondering and I think America should wonder tonight. Again, we go from the Russia collusion, and we end up with the tax issues going back years ago. In both cases. And bank applications that have nothing to do with the campaign-- JARRETT: That's right. HANNITY: -- nothing to do with Trump, nothing to do with Russia years ago. Now we have got into taxi medallion land which is nothing to do with anything. And I think Americans are saying wait a minute, in this campaign of 2016, Hillary did do these things. JARRETT: Sure. HANNITY: And forget about -- you can even add to the list that she cheated Bernie Sanders out of the nomination. Nobody seems to care but me for Bernie. Bernie doesn't even care. So then she does her bit with the e-mail subpoenaed. Then she does her bit to pay for the phony Russian dossier and then they disseminate it to influence the American people and then it's used for the bulk of the information for a FISA. It seems to me that the perspective is so far off here. That the president's analogy that it's a witch hunt is accurate. JARRETT: Absolutely. When James Comey cleared Hillary Clinton in the face of overwhelming evidence of guilt, he simultaneously launched the investigation of Trump in direct violation, as I explain in book, of the FBI guidelines. Then the special counsel was also illegitimate. This has always been an investigation in search of a crime. But the federal regulations say there must be a stated crime. There was none. HANNITY: Sara, we'll give you the last word. CARTER: Look, Sean, they are trying to force people to compose. They are targeting everyone around President Trump. This is pretty obvious what's happening here. The only thing I can hope for is that actually Hubert (Ph), he is doing his job, the attorney general will listen and the special counsel will be appointed. HANNITY: All right. Thank you both. I appreciate it. Your book got to the whole heart of it. Right there. And here we are today. Taxi medallion. Sad. JARRETT: It is. HANNITY: When we come back, he is called the great one for a reason. Mark Levin weighs in and much more. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Here with the reaction to all of today's breaking news. He is the host of the number one show on Sunday night at 10 Eastern, Life, Liberty, and Levin right on the Fox News channel, host of CRTV's Levin TV. We call him the great one for a reason. Mark Levin. All right, Mark, I mean, there are some lessons here. I agree that you shouldn't lie to the FBI. Everyone agrees with that. I also agree that you should pay your taxes. I also agree that you better not lie on a bank loan application. Mark, how did we get from Russia and that this is it after nearly, we are almost at 500 days. MARK LEVIN, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. I want to address Michael Cohen. How did we get to that? I want to help the law professors, the constitutional experts, the criminal defense lawyers, the former prosecutors and of course, the professors. I want to help them understand what the law is. The general counsel for the Clinton mob family, Lanny Davis, he had his client pleaded two counts of criminality that don't exist. These campaign finance violations that is all over TV, they are saying implicates the president of the United States directly. First, let's back up. It is a guilty plea. It is a plea bargain between a prosecutor and a criminal. A criminal who doesn't want to spend the rest of his life in prison. That is not precedent. That applies only to that specific case. Nobody cites plea bargains for precedent. That's number one. Number two, just because a prosecutor says that somebody violated a campaign law doesn't make it so. He is not the judge. He is not the jury. We didn't adjudicate anything. It never went to court. That's number two. A campaign expenditure under our federal campaign laws is an expenditure solely for campaign activity. A candidate who spends his own money or even corporate money for an event that occurred not as a result of the campaign, it is not a campaign expenditure. Let me give a few examples to help people understand this, especially the American people. Let's say, I wrote these down. Let's say a candidate had said we owe vendors a whole lot of money. We've had disputes with them. But I want you to go ahead and pay them. I'm a candidate, I don't want all this negative publicity. So he says to his private lawyer, you pay them, I'll reimburse you, get it done. Is that illegal? It's perfectly legal. Yet according to the prosecution of the Southern District of New York it's paid at the direction of the candidate to influence the election. Yes, Mr. Prosecutor, how stupid is your point? It's not a crime. More, let's say that this candidate settles a lawsuit that was initiated before he becomes a candidate. And he says to his personal lawyer, I want you to pay, settle that lawsuit. You can use my corporate funds, my private funds, whatever it is. That is perfectly legal, too. The prosecutor would say but that influenced the election. So what? There are certain things you do that influence an election that are legal and certain things you do to influence an election that are illegal. Let's say a candidate gets a non-disclosure agreement from a disgruntled employee and he wants to quiet that disgruntled employee as he goes into the election. He pays the funds out of his pocket or through his corporation. Perfectly legal. Nothing here was spent out of the campaign, nothing was done with the campaign or to the campaign. This is exactly what the federal law is. And Mr. Lanny davis had his client plead guilty to two offenses that aren't offenses that the prosecutor insisted were offenses. That's why he is no good. That is Michael Cohen against Donald Trump. Donald Trump is in the clear. Let's say Donald Trump even directed Michael Cohen to make payments in non- disclosure agreements. So what? He is allowed to do that. Now, here's my question. Has the Southern District of New York ever paid money in a non-disclosure agreement with any of its employees? How about any U.S. attorney's office in the United States? How about the Department of Justice? How about any business? HANNITY: Or Congress. LEVIN: How about any union? How about the DNC? How about member of Congress? It's done all the time. It is all hush money. And all of this hush money, they can't pay hush money. Well, it is hush money. It's legal. It's a contract. It's done all the time. Now, what does Mr. Mueller have left? It's worked. He is chasing the Manhattan madam. Who the hell is the Manhattan madam? I don't know. And how is he interviewing? He is dragging her in front of the grand jury. What's next? The Manhattan madame. He's got -- he's got Manafort where he wants him on banking charges, he set up a few guys like Flynn who has gotten in trouble. Now they have Cohen. What do they have? They have nothing. I'll tell you what they have. Mr. Mueller as a federal prosecutor is preparing his impeachment report which is an unconstitutional activity. Mr. Mueller is supposed to be nonpolitical. He is not supposed to preparing impeachment report. Mr. Mueller, I told you before, you can't indict a sitting president. I told you that 15 months ago. Now you figured it out. You and Rosenstein figured it out. Now you and Rosenstein are trying to figure out what to do with the subpoena. You see, Sean, Giuliani was on your show the other day or somebody's show and said why do they take two or three weeks? I'll tell you why they take two or three weeks. Because Mr. Mueller has to consult Mr. Rosenstein, his boss, to figure out what to do with the subpoena. I'll tell you what happens when they issue that subpoena. The president of the United States takes it all the way to the Supreme Court. And what does he cite? Department of Justice memos. What else does he cite? The Constitution of the United States. So this is going to be an impeachment battle in the end. The president of the United States if he doesn't get involved in the perjury trap -- think about that. They don't have a crime. He needs this interview to create a crime against the president of the United States. This prosecutor. Well, that's pretty damn outrageous. So in any event I want the news media to understand. You know what took place in the Southern District of New York? Nothing that matters. Zippo. HANNITY: You know what, Mark? LEVIN: There was no violation of the federal campaign laws. Lanny Davis blew it. Lanny Davis -- Lanny Davis he puts out a tweet today. "Today, Cohen stood up and testified under oath that Donald Trump directed him to commit a crime." You are a dummy, Lanny. "By making payments to two women for the principal purpose of influencing an election. If those payments were a crime for Michael Cohen then why wouldn't they be a crime for Donald Trump?" They weren't a crime for Michael Cohen. He screwed himself. And they're not a crime for Donald Trump either. Now move along and go back into your corner with Hillary Clinton. HANNITY: Well, obviously, he is a huge Clinton sycophant. So there's 2016 campaign, we're what, 77 days out is now becoming as I have said for a long time. It's about impeachment, keeping Obamacare, then wanting their crumbs back, eliminating ICE, open borders and stopping the investigation into what I say is the biggest abuse of power. Here is what I want to ask you. So we now have Hillary Rodham Clinton obstructing, violating the Espionage Act and no indictment. We now have her paying for what turns out to be a foreign entity, a foreign agent, putting together Russian lies that are disseminated to the American people to influence an election. Lies. Never verified or corroborated. Then put as the bulk of information and for FISA warrants, Comey, Sally Yates, Rod Rosenstein, they all signed off and they all said, they swore, they put their good name and credibility behind it. I don't see Comey indicted. LEVIN: Right. HANNITY: I don't see any -- I don't see any Hillary Clinton indictments. I don't see any crimes that are being pursued here. Barack Obama had what, $2 million in campaign finance violations he just paid upon. LEVIN: Can I interrupt for a second? HANNITY: Yes, go ahead. Interrupt on my own show. LEVIN: The head of the FBI is not the head of the FBI anymore. He is a confessed leaker and he is under investigation by the inspector director. The deputy FBI director was fired and is under criminal investigation. Mr. Strzok was the head counterintelligence investigator was fired and he is under investigation, I believe, or will be, or should be under investigation as well. That's the top tier of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. I have never heard of anything like this before. You have a mole in the deputy attorney general's office who's working with Strzok has been fired. His wife works for the Fusion GPS. And pushing out the opposition research against the president of the United States. Getting in front of the FISA court through the FBI, Bruce Ohr. Bruce Ohr who served for the deputy attorney general of the United States and there is tons more. You have FISA court judges that have never been held to account. HANNITY: Fraud. LEVIN: You had an application that was filed with the FISA court. They didn't say who paid for the opposition research that was used to violate their rules. HANNITY: I got to run, Mark. LEVIN: yes. We need a special counsel now. For that. HANNITY: You know, some great, smart, constitutional lawyer once wrote a book and in book he said, this is a post-constitutional America. That was you. We're there. Mark, thank you. LEVIN: Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: Life, Liberty and Levin Sunday night at 10 Eastern right here on Fox. When we come back, we'll have a live report from Iowa, the very latest of this horrific murder of this young innocent Iowa college student Mollie Tibbetts, murdered by an illegal immigrant. Full reaction. Geraldo and Dr. Gorka, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You heard about today with the illegal alien coming in very sadly from Mexico. And you saw what happened to that incredible, beautiful young woman. It should have never happened. Illegally in our country. We have had a huge impact but the laws are so bad. The immigration laws are such a disgrace. We are getting them changed but we have to get more Republicans. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That was the president earlier tonight in his West Virginia rally lamenting what was the ultimate death -- the untimely death of Mollie Tibbetts. We feel so sorry for her family. Tonight our thoughts and prayers as we said earlier go out to them. This is a tragedy that can be prevented. More on reaction of this horrific story author of the book "Why We Fight," Fox News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka. Author of the "Geraldo Show," Fox News correspondent at large, Geraldo Rivera. Geraldo, this to me, I see Kate Steinle, a beautiful young girl, her entire life stalked by this guy apparently. According to Fox News reports earlier tonight. And brutally murdered. Again, an illegal immigrant in this country. We have to fix the problem. This should be the end of it for everybody. Build the wall, keep a door. We'll call it the Geraldo door. Seriously, because you and I have disagreed on some aspects of immigration. Stop drugs, stop human trafficking, control who comes in the country. We love you. Come from anywhere, we just need to vet you so you are part of our family. We don't care where you come from. Just we need to know that you are safe and secure for the people that are here. GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT AT LARGE: You know, Sean, I totally understand the anger that so many people are expressing and feeling over this horrible case and my heart breaks for the Tibbetts family. It really does. This is absolutely horrific. I feel so sorry for them. As the father of five, it is so, so saddening to me. It's saddening for what this family has suffered and it is sad because it will fuel the malignant false notion that this terrible savage crime is characteristic of this population. The 12 million undocumented immigrants in this country are not all MS-13. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Geraldo, no, it's not. No. That's absolutely true. You are right. But we've got to be able to try and vet those that are here because they love our country-- (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: Of course. Sean, there is no argument. I have no -- there is no distance between us on that point. But I fear is that this case will now become the rallying cry to deprive the DREAMers of their protected status. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The president offered appeal, Geraldo. RIVERA: To harshly crackdown on the mom and pops who have been here for years and care for our babies and mow our lawns and wash our dishes. HANNITY: How about we just make sure that -- how about we just check everybody out? Dr. Gorka, let's make sure-- (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: I would love. I would love that. HANNITY: I know you believe that. You agree further. I know you. RIVERA: I would hire every Wal-Mart in the country in a parking lot and tell come on, we'll give you a yellow pass and we'll figure out who you are and what your status is. I just -- I just want everyone to know. My dad -- I want to quickly say. My dad Cruz Rivera -- and this guy's name is Rivera? Please, you wonder how I feel about this. My dad when he was alive, Cruz Rivera, we moved from Brooklyn to Long Island from the Democratic heart of Brooklyn to the Republican Long Island. All we wanted to do was fit in. Every time there was a violent crime my dad would pray that it wasn't a Latino because the community was already beleaguered enough. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Geraldo, those people that are going to love people together-- (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: And now this happens. May heart is broken. HANNITY: They're not conservatives. Anybody but. Dr. Gorka. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: Sean. HANNITY: We do have things we can do. And we're not doing them. GORKA: Sean, Kate Steinle should never have died. Now Mollie's life has been ripped away from her by an illegal alien. Americans should never forget these women, never forget these young girls and we should never rest until the wall is built. And every single criminal like this is removed from this country or put in prison. Nobody, nobody has the right to come to America and to be an American. The sanctuary cities, the outrageous catch and release policies of the Obama administration are because of one reason and one reason alone. And it's not humanitarianism. It's because the Democrat Party-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I've got to run. GORKA: -- wants illegal votes. That's the only reason. HANNITY: We pray for their families. And I know you mean it, Geraldo. More HANNITY, next. HANNITY: Last word tonight, we better do a lot of soul-searching as a country, because if Russian collusion becomes taxi medallions and taxes and, bank fraud, and we ignore obstruction of justice, if we ignore real Russia collusion, we are going to lose the country. It's that important. The election this midterm the most important in our lifetime. Jason Chaffetz in for Laura tonight. Sir, take it away. Load-Date: August 22, 2018 End of Document Former Trump Allies Face Legal Problems; Manafort Guilty on Eight Counts of Charges Against Him; Guilty Plea for Michael Cohen; Iowa Teen Mollie Tibbetts' Body Found and One Man is Arrested for Murder; Paul Manafort Found Guilty; Michael Cohen Makes Plea Agreement; Illegal Immigrant Accused of Murdered Young Woman; Student Tear Down Confederate Statue in North Carolina; Presenters on MTV Awards Show Criticize President Trump Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST August 21, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8408 words Byline: Jason Chaffetz, Ed Henry Guests: Harmeet Dhillon, Vinoo Varghese, Tom Dupree, Michael Wilde, Mark Fuhrman, Bill Gavin, Mike Huckabee, Jason Nichols, Eric Johnson, Horace Cooper, Lisa Boothe, Josh McBride Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: We are going to lose the country. It's that important. This election. This mid- term, the most important in our lifetime. Jason Chaffetz in for Laura tonight. Sir, take it away. JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS HOST: Thanks, Sean, and I think you are spot on. Good evening from New York City on this night of major breaking news. I'm Jason Chaffetz sitting in for Laura Ingraham. A tragic ending in the search for missing Iowa college student Mollie Tibbetts. The alleged killer, a 24-year-old illegal immigrant, and we've got Democrats out there saying ICE should be abolished. It's unbelievable. We'll have a full report later in the hour. But let's get right to our top story. Serious legal trouble for two of President Trump's former top associates, Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen. Fox News chief national correspondent Ed Henry is here with the details. Ed, what is the latest? ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Jason, great to see you. Difficult day for the president on two fronts, as you mentioned, Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen. The Cohen case could prove to be more damaging legally and politically because the president was directly implicated in the plea deal, a far cry from the Manafort matter which has nothing to do the president, the 2016 campaign, or allegations of Russian collusion. The former Trump campaign chair was stone-faced in the Virginia court as he learned the jury found he's guilty on five counts of filing false income tax returns, one count of failing to file a report of a foreign bank account, two more charges of bank fraud. The jury could not reach a verdict in Manafort's case on 10 other counts. Prosecutors have until the end of the month to decide whether they'll seek a retrial on that. Manafort also facing at second trial in Washington on charges of lobbying, fraud and other matters -- that comes in the fall. There is also the possibility Manafort will be pardoned by the president, who declared today before his rally in West Virginia that the special counsel investigation is simply out of control, watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It's a witch hunt and it's a disgrace. This has nothing to do what they started out, looking for Russians involved in our campaign. There were none. I feel very badly for Paul Manafort. Again, he worked for Bob Dole, he worked for Ronald Reagan, he worked for many people, and this is the way it ends up. It was not the original mission, believe me. It was something very much different. So, it had nothing to do with Russian collusion. We continue the witch hunt. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: Now, significant the president did not say anything about the Cohen case, leaving it to his attorney, Rudy Giuliani, to revive this statement, quote, "There is no allegation of any wrongdoing against the president and the government's charges against Mr. Cohen. It is clear that, as the prosecutor noted, Mr. Cohen's actions reflect a pattern of lies and dishonesty over a significant period of time." But Cohen's plea deal alleges he broke the law to influence a 2016 election on behalf of an unnamed candidate who clearly is the president. Cohen will get somewhere between 43 and 63 months in prison after pleading guilty to the campaign finance charges I mentioned, plus bank fraud, and tax evasion. The campaign charges involve payments to two women who alleged affairs with the president that he's vehemently denied. Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal, in Cohen's plea deal, seems to directly contradict something that Giuliani told Fox back in May. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUDY GIULIANI, ATTORNEY TO PRESIDENT TRUMP: Having something to do with paying some Stormy Daniels woman, $130,000, I mean, which is going to turn out to be perfectly legal? That money was not campaign money. Sorry, I'm giving you a fact now that you don't know. It's not campaign money! No campaign finance violation. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, they funneled it through a law firm? GIULIANI: Funneled through a law firm and the president repaid it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: Well, that at least raises the questions now, but whether there is any legal jeopardy for the president or anyone else in the campaign. Plus, Stormy Daniels' attorney, Michael Avenatti, always very aggressive and reaching out to the media, he is now claiming this plea allows him to get the stay lifted in the civil case that's separate from this. Meaning there will be new fight over whether the president has to give a deposition. Avenatti tweeting to Giuliani, quote, "Buckle up, buttercup" as if this fight is just beginning, Jason. CHAFFETZ: Ed, thank you very much. Let's bring in our legal panel to break down today's development. Harmeet Dhillon is a Republican and a lawyer, Vinoo Varghese is a criminal defense attorney, and Tom Dupree, who was a deputy assistant attorney general in the George W. Bush administration. Thank you all for being here. We want to try to break down today's developments so I want -- one at a time. So let's talk just first. We'll go around the horn on Paul Manafort. And Harmeet, I'd like to give you the first stab at this. What is your take on the developments today? HARMEET DHILLON, ATORNEY: Well, the developments today I think very unfortunate for Mr. Manafort because he is close to the president at one point in time for a brief period of time. He got caught in the crosshairs of the prosecution of the Mueller investigation. As we can see from both the indictment as well as the charges and the ultimate jury verdict today, we don't see anything about the president, about Russian collusion, or anything other than irregularities in his taxes and statements to banks. Now those are serious issues and unfortunately, Mr. Manafort, now will probably spend a good decade plus, to the rest of his life in prison, depending on what happens next. But it's got zero to do with the president and it just frankly underscore that (inaudible) for his closeness to the president he probably wouldn't have been prosecuted. So, its part of the narrative of, you know, unfair witch hunt here. CHAFFETZ: Now, Vinoo, who is joining me here in the studio in New York, is she right? Harmmet makes a good point. It has nothing to do with Donald Trump. The proximity of the president is really what's driving this, isn't it? VINOO VARGHESE, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, look, first thing that you should notice are ostriches and pythons all across the country will sleep well tonight knowing that Paul Manafort will remain behind bars. Understand that this is a big victory for team Mueller in the court of public opinion because they won this case in the court. There's been a number of guilty pleas here. CHAFFETZ: But it's a case --it's a case that has nothing to do with the original Manafort directive. VARGHESE: This is Trump's campaign chairman. It was his campaign chairman. And Paul Manafort -- CHAFFETZ: Are you going to -- like everybody that's ever worked for you, are you going to -- VARGHESE: And I hope that Paul Manafort here has been found guilty. Look, his team took a gamble. CHAFFETZ: Of what? Something that he did a long time ago? VARGHESE: His team took a gamble. And to try (ph) this case in Alexandria, Virginia, hoping for a much more conservative jury than in Washington, D.C. CHAFFETZ: Do you really believe that he would have been prosecuted except for his proximity to Donald Trump? VARGHESE: Obviously they looked at him, that was part of it. No, I agree. His proximity to Donald Trump brought the case. That doesn't mean this is the only thing there. CHAFFETZ: And look, if somebody has (inaudible) the tax laws, I want them to be convicted. But to have the national spotlight on them just because he's worked for like 100 days for Donald Trump seems a bit over the top. But let me get Tom's take on this. Tom, what do you think is happening here with Paul Manafort? TOM DUPREE, FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL: Well, a few things here Jason. For one thing, I do think he was the wrong guy in the wrong place at the wrong time. I mean, look, the fact that Bob Mueller is poking around. Mueller has a broad mandate. He has the authority to investigate any crimes he uncovers in the course of investigating Russia collusion. Unfortunately for Manafort, put the spotlight on him. I think as far as a president goes, I think there is no legal jeopardy to the president from today's verdict. As we all know, this involves things that they are not connected to Manafort's work on the campaign or the Manafort service to Donald Trump. I think at most the president is guilty of making a very poor personnel decision when he chose Manafort to be his campaign chairman. CHAFFETZ: But the reason that the president picked Manafort, I mean, that could be debated, but the question about whether -- there's a reason why the special counsel, right, decided to push this off for a different prosecutor rather than holding it for himself, correct, Tom? DUPREE: Well, the Manafort, remember, was tried by the special counsel's team so I think this part of the case, Mueller is kind of keeping close to heart. Now look, I agree with you that if Manafort were -- CHAFFETZ: But why are they doing that? I guess the point I should make, to word it better was, why do that? Is he now putting the squeeze on Mr. Manafort, saying hey look, I made my case. You are going to be convicted here. You've been convicted and now I'm going to put the squeeze on you. You better cough something up on Donald Trump or I'm going to actually -- is that is what's -- where this is going? DUPREE: Jason, I bet you that Mueller and Mueller's team has been putting the squeeze on Manafort for many, many months now, and he hasn't caved. I suppose the pressure will continue although at this point, obviously Manafort has lost a lot of the leverage that he had at the outset given that he now stands criminally convicted. That said, it's possible that at some point they'll reach a deal. As we know, Manafort has another trial coming up in a few months, so there might be an opportunity to do some wheeling and dealing. Although I tend to think if Manafort has something of value to give to Mueller and he was willing to turn it over to Mueller, you'd think Mueller would have it by now. CHAFFETZ: All right, let's talk about Michael Cohen because that is a different scenario. And Vinoo, I want to give you the first shot at that. How do you read that situation? VARGHESE: The first thing, I actually think this is a big political victory for the Republicans today, with announcing that Michael Cohen, Trump's personal attorney, paid hush money to a porn star and playboy model. There's no debate that President Trump has better taste in women than Bill Clinton. He's an attorney. This is a guy who has committed a crime, multiple crimes, tax evasion, violation of campaign finance laws. He is going to be automatically disbarred. The question is how much time is he going to face behind bars. The deal says 43 to 63 months but that judge can give much more than that. That is the reality of the case. So for him, it leaves open the possibility of cooperating. There is still an opportunity to cooperate. I wouldn't be surprised at all if that December date is pushed back. CHAFFETZ: Harmeet, how do you read this situation and I think it's pretty interesting who Michael Cohen picked as his attorney because Lanny Davis is obviously no friend of Donald Trump but very close in proximity to Hillary Clinton. DHILLON: Well, a couple of things to give in mind about Michael Cohen. You know, he is a guy who tapes his clients, that he's a guy, who a few months ago, when he was looking at potentially 60 years in prison for these potential charges, that point he was saying the president had nothing to do with any of this stuff and, you know, there is no campaign finance issue. Fast-forward to today when, you know, you're facing 60 years in prison and the alternative is potentially five years in prison and you can get that five-year deal if you say that a couple of things that aren't crimes are crimes and pin them on the president. So I think that the overwhelming power of the prosecutors here in those situations and every situations where it's a federal prosecution, have led to this result. And Lanny Davis has really sold his client out because I think it is a real stretch, and I'm a lawyer who does election law, campaign finance, it's a real stretch to say that somebody who deals with paying off hush money to a blackmailer is necessarily trying to affect the outcome of an election. I suspect that throughout his career, Donald Trump has been approached by women like who have, you know, shaken him down and this is a standard way that people are paid off and so, you know, I don't see the campaign finance violation here at all. And so, you know, it is really unfortunate that he was forced into the situation and have done this, but, you know, again, A, nothing to do with collusion or Russia and B, no crime here for the president. CHAFFETZ: All right, Jonathan Turley, a noted attorney, was on Fox News earlier. Let's listen to him and then Tom, I would like to get your reaction to that. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JONATHAN TURLEY, GEORGE WASHINGTON LAW PROFESSOR: Unless its unidentified candidate is Bernie Sanders, it's going to be bad news. I mean, you're already not paying attention, because if the prosecutors accept what is in this indictment, then the president just became an unindicted co- conspirator. That's the simple matter of it. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Tom, you've got deep experience at the Department of Justice. Is Jonathan Turley right? DUPREE: Well, not quite. The way I look at it is look, for one thing, the fact that Cohen pleaded to a particular charge doesn't mean that other people are automatically deemed guilty. I mean, that is why we have trials, that's why you have evidence, that's why we have juries to make these determinations. I will also say that one of the most complex and byzantine areas in the entire sphere of federal law is the election code and lawyers will argue to the nth day about whether something constitutes an election violation or it doesn't and I think this is no different. For me, what this ultimately is going to come down to is whether Cohen has something other than his own word that this is what happened, that these payments were made for the purpose of influencing a campaign, that they were done at the direction of presumably Donald Trump. If Cohen has Trump on tape, if Cohen has evidence to support his allegations, then it could pose greater jeopardy for the president, but right now, all we know is it's just Cohen's word against presumably the president's word. CHAFFETZ: But there are tapes and is Trump team able to hear and listen to all of those tapes if they are in the possession of the special prosecutor or is that something that they've only maybe heard snippets of? DUPREE: My guess is the president has not heard everything that is in the possession of the prosecutors. I mean, lord knows what sorts of things Cohen was taping. There have been some tapes that address some of the subject matter of today's indictment. We don't know if those are all of them and the tapes that we have heard have been somewhat ambiguous to say the least. CHAFFETZ: But Vinoo, I have a hard time believing that this is the -- first of all, I haven't heard the word Russia yet and collusion. You haven't seen anything there regarding Russia and collusion, have you? VARGHESE: That's not what this -- that's not what this is about. CHAFFETZ: I know but this is what the special prosecutor is spending all of his time, about a guy who is dealing with medallions on taxis -- VARGHESE: Well, that's the tax evasion part of it, right. So, you have here Donald Trump's personal lawyer, the man who said he would take a bullet for Donald Trump, who has now said in open court that the direction of the candidate, he funneled this money to influence the election, right? So, the question of Russia collusion, that's a separate question. The fact is -- CHAFFETZ: What's the prime question of what the prosecutor is supposed to be going for? VARGHESE: But he has a broad mandate. As he said, he can investigate different things and all of these came from this, and the fact is now you have Trump's national security advisor, his former campaign chairman -- CHAFFETZ: Which they delayed, right? They delayed the -- VARGHESE: His campaign chairman -- CHAFFETZ: -- and there is a lot of evidence out there that he was manipulated along the way. VARGHESE: -- all guilty. CHAFFETZ: So Harmeet, last word, how do you read the situation going forward? What happens next? DHILLON: Well, I mean, obviously the left in this divided country is going to go crazy like Vinoo just did, you know, imputing guilt by association here but, you know, this is a tragic tale of a lawyer gone awry in many ways. It's unfortunate for him personally, but the president is very focused on his agenda. He's popular. I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't affect his popularity one bit because people are beginning to see the results in this country. And yet after all this money, all this effort, all this drama, all these indictments, all he's got is zero to do with Russian collusion. The only person who committed campaign finance violations with respect to Russia, with respect to foreign countries, is Hillary Clinton, and she never got indicted. So, I think this really underscores for the president's position that this is a witch hunt and it has no legitimacy and needs to end. VARGHESE: The Mueller investigation is not over. CHAFFETZ: Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciated it. Harmeet, gentlemen, thank you and we do appreciate it. Authorities say the murder suspect in the Molly Tibbetts case is an illegal immigrant. We'll have the details on this shocking situation directly ahead. Stay with us. CHAFFETZ: The 34t-day search for missing Iowa college student, Mollie Tibbetts ended today in tragedy. I can't even -- seriously, as a parent, I can't even imagine going through this. Authorities charge Christian Rivera today with Mollie's murder saying the 24-year-old led police to what is believed to be her dead body at an Iowa cornfield. And in a stunning revelation, authorities say Mr. Rivera is an illegal immigrant. President Trump weighed in on this case tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: You heard about today with the illegal alien coming in very sadly from Mexico and you saw what happened to that incredible, beautiful young woman. It should have never happened. CHAFFETZ: Joining me now for reaction, our immigration attorney Michael Wilde, former Los Angeles police department detective Mark Fuhrman, and Bill Gavin, former assistant FBI director in New York. Gentlemen, I thank you all for being here. Unfortunately, you've had experience with these types of horrific cases and we want to get your insight because not only is the family going through an amazing tragedy, but the police work, the 34 days I think is an important thing that we also look at and we want to get your perspective Mark, I would like to go to you first. What is your assessment of how law enforcement dealt with this case and does it sound to you, again, A, it's an allegation, and B, it is still very early in this process. But based on what you've seen so far, in your professional experience, what is your assessment? MARK FUHRMAN, FORMER LAPD DETECTIVE: Well, I think the written media kind of skips over the police investigation making it seem like it all happened in a day or two, but I think they were very patient. I think they approached it very intelligent and a very skillful approach once they had a suspect when it got to interrogation. The suspect just sit and walk in and start giving up information. They had enough investigative tools at their disposal to actually prod that suspect into somewhat of an -- somewhat of a confession. He leaves out that he actually murdered the victim, but I think the police did an incredible job on this. CHAFFETZ: Yes, I mean, he says he actually blacked out during the time that the actual murder happened. But Bill, you have experience in the FBI. If somebody leads you to the body, is there any more evidence that you need that maybe this was the actual perpetrator? BILL GAVIN, FORMER FBI ASSISTANT DIRECTOR (NY): I don't think there is any doubt he's the perpetrator and I agree with Mark, I think the police did a terrific job. One of the concerns that I have is, how long did he stock her? By what means did he kill her? Strangulation, blunt force trauma, stabbing, whatever, where she sexually molested? I think the other thing, Jason, that concerns me is he was in the country, they say, four to seven years, four years in Volusia (ph) County, and maybe three years some place else. They have to go back and look and see has there been any other crime similar to this? There is no doubt he stalked her. Has there been any other crime similar to this, any place that he has been? Has he been in one of the sanctuary cities where everything goes anyway? Where has he been? What has he done? CHAFFETZ: Because he was charged with first-degree murder, does that lead you to believe that he was stalking her as opposed to a chance happening she was running, he was driving by and decided, hey, this might be a good target? GAVIN: I think that probably he was stalking her. I think the police did a marvelous job. You know, they didn't let out any information until they had all the details pretty well-collected and lined up for the information that they give out this afternoon. They did a marvelous job with this. And another thing, you know, when you get -- we get so many people complaining about cameras, you know, their civil liberties are violated when they appear on a camera, the police did such a great job in contacting people as they went through this. They found somebody who had a camera who saw the Chevy Malibu, who actually saw the runner. What a great job they did, and have hats off to the police department. CHAFFETZ: Now look, it's a smaller law enforcement organization. It's not like the Los Angeles police department with untold number of assets at their disposal for a smaller department like that to do this kind of police work. But Michael, it does beg the question -- he is here joining me in studio -- this person should have never been in the country in the first place, correct? I mean, it's an allegation but he should have never been here, right? MICHAEL WILDES, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: Thank you for having me Jason. A horrible, senseless act of violence -- my heart goes after the family. There should be full consequences to this man for committing this murder, for the rest of his life. The truth is that the political arena of immigration is not going to be satiated through legislation. You can't to legislate your way out of a murder. It's many ways a sad -- CHAFFETZ: You can put up a wall. You can enforce -- you can start expelling people that are here illegally. WILDES: I understand but when you look at the facts, we have U.S. Marines that marry foreign nationals and the vetting here is critical. Even if you vet, you have more U.S. citizens craving (ph), more heinous crimes than undocumented or legally permitted -- CHAFFETZ: But he would have never -- he would have never been able to even have a chance to commit a crime if he was not (ph) here in the first place. WILDES: You are saying then, Jason, that we really need to shut our doors and not have them here. I don't know that you can stop a murder steadily despite all of the walls -- CHAFFETZ: You can shut it off. If he's here illegally, that says to me, at least on the first blush, that he should have never been here. What about the million people we bring in legally and lawfully? I have a higher moral obligation, I think this country does to those people than it does -- WILDES: I agree. And I agree also with the other two speakers here, the former director of the FBI and the officer, because in all truth, when it comes down to it, the beautiful police work that is being done, the system here, should stand and we should have redundancies between state, local, and federal crimes, so that the vetting doesn't stop. What about the people who radicalize who are citizens when they travel internationally and come back to the U.S.? CHAFFETZ: And you know what -- WILDES: If a local cop gets them and then reports it redundantly to our intelligence services, yes, Jason, we should be able to stop this but we cannot blame immigrants as the scapegoat because they do a lot -- CHAFFETZ: Well, I'm blaming this one. I'm blaming this one. WILDES: -- as I am too as a father. CHAFFETZ: And I worry, again, we don't have a total immigration debate here, but there is a difference between being here illegally and being here legally. You do a disservice to the legal immigrants by just saying, well, this guy was an immigrant. No, he wasn't, he was an illegal immigrant. So, we'll see. It's an allegation at this point. I want to get back to the case here. And Mark, he's being charged with first-degree murder. What is it going to take in order to prove that? What would police have to see in order for a prosecutor to feel comfortable that, yeah, it was actually first-degree? FUHRMAN: Well, it's first-degree because he wasn't involved with the victim. It wasn't a hot blood murder where he was involved in an argument with a spouse or a live-in girlfriend. This was a directed intent murder where he actually formed the intent, which can be formed in just a matter of seconds to actually kill her. And they are going to do this forensically. They've got him to get to the point of capturing her, and then he blocks out until he's -- she's in the trunk. So, they are going to fill that gap in forensically. They are going to have the cause and method of death. They are going to try to get as much DNA. The problem here is, 30 days in the elements, insects, animals, and the heat, which is the average temperature is about 87 degrees in Iowa at this time of year. That creates a lot of decomposition, but I think they are going to achieve their goal and they will get a first-degree conviction. CHAFFETZ: Bill, is the FBI, is the Federal Bureau of Investigation, helping these smaller departments and agencies? Do they have the types of resources and can they quickly turn this around to help a smaller agency such as in Iowa? GAVIN: Absolutely. That is why the FBI has resident agencies all over the country, in the smaller areas. And the participation of agents and police officers and sheriffs offices is terrific today. Plus, there's the opportunity for the bureau to run classes and whatnot and for police departments, larger police departments, to run those kinds of classes for smaller police department as well. But the spirit of cooperation is there. Anytime any police department want something done, in comes to the bureau, it will absolutely get done any place in the country -- CHAFFETZ: Well, the FBI, I think one of the great bright spots for the FBI these days is the work that they do and the forensic labs there at Quantico and whatnot. But Michael, I want to ask you one last question here. This kid is in a tough situation -- I don't want to say kid, but I'll call him a punk or a killer, at least a wedge. He's going to be in a very difficult situation. Does he have any chance of wiggling out of this at this point? WILDE: We saw sadly with the Kate Steinle case, where the state did not bring a good prosecution. The forensics of these very distinguished law enforcement officers spoke about today, and I'm a former federal prosecutor myself, is just the first step. The prosecution has to be ironclad. And I would agree, it has to be strong and with due process to make sure that we send the message out. Tonight is not immigration, that we don't scapegoat immigrants because of this son of a gun's work. CHAFFETZ: Just the illegal immigrants. Mark, I want to give you the last very quick word. What are the immigration policies happening right now? How is that affecting the Los Angeles area? FUHRMA: Well, I can tell you this, we never know what crimes are not committed because an illegal alien is stopped at the border. That is indisputable. You can't even argue that point. But the flood of illegal immigrants that are gang members is what is the catastrophic effect in communities and you can't control this by saying we are going to let some come across the border and we are not going to let others. It's got to be legal immigration policy or no immigration illegally. I mean it's an issue that can't be debated, that if you let somebody come in illegally and they are criminal, they are going to commit crimes, just like this crime. CHAFFETZ: Gentlemen, thank you. I wish we had more time to discuss this, but this case will go on, but for the meantime, god bless that family and what they are doing tonight, the friends and family in that community. Governor Mike Huckabee is here to discuss the political fallout of all of today's major stories. Stay with us. He's up next. CHAFFETZ: There is major potential political fallout for the Manafort and Cohen stories, plus Mollie Tibbetts murder case. But with me to break it all down is former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee. Governor, I really do appreciate you joining me this evening. You saw the Cohen news. You saw the Manafort news. You heard obviously about the tragic death of Mollie Tibbetts. But what is your political read about what is going on, particularly with Manafort and Cohen, how is this going to play out to the average American? MIKE HUCKABEE, FORMER ARKANSAS GOVERNOR: It was not the best day for the president because two people closely associated with him either were convicted or pled guilty. Whether or not that stink ends up on him, time will tell. I think a lot of a his supporters are not going to be persuaded by an attorney who has admittedly lied, and by someone who did things that had nothing to do with Donald Trump and happened years before he was even briefly associated with the campaign. But let's be honest, this is not the kind of thing that if you are Donald Trump, you want to have at the end of the day, two converging legal issues. But in the great scheme of things, most people recognize this had nothing to do with Russia, which was the whole point of the Mueller investigation, and it also doesn't really show that there is a singlehanded form of justice being applied to Democrats like Hillary Clinton, whose campaign funded the Russian dossier, and all of these things surrounding the president. So I don't think that we know whether it's going to have a big impact. My guess is in a long term, it doesn't. But time will tell. I do think there is a huge impact on this issue with Mollie Tibbetts, and what a heartbreaking situation. And Congressman, I heard what you said a moment ago, couldn't agree with you more. You can't look at this just from a raw political standpoint. As you said, you look at this as a father, as a dad. And I just can't even get my arms around the grief of Mollie Tibbetts' family. And the fact that this person shouldn't have been here, if there is not a pushback against open borders and sanctuary cities and the Philadelphia mayor dancing in his office over sanctuary cities, I don't know what is. CHAFFETZ: Look at the average voter. I understand where Republicans will be leaning one side and the Democrats will be leaning -- but this truly independent person, the person who is maybe not watching every story and reading every news article that comes out, personally, I don't believe that the Cohen and Manafort story really moves the meter in any one direction, especially when they've lost so much credibility of the last two years. But what does touch the heart, what does touch people's emotion is what happened to Mollie Tibbetts, because they can relate to her, and she was murdered. And all the polls are showing that the number one issue is immigration. So people say don't politicize it, but how do we talk about it and at the same time not be criticized for being -- just throwing politics out. HUCKABEE: I find it interesting, Congressman, that you've got a lot of Democrats saying we shouldn't be politicizing the Mollie Tibbetts' murder, but they are the very ones that absolutely overwhelmingly politicize Parkland school shooting and every shooting that happens. It's a natural emotional reaction, but what we have to do is examine policies to determine, can we fix this, can we do better? There is not a lot of sympathy among even Republicans for Paul Manafort for tax evasion or for lying about bank documents. I don't care who you are, Democrat or Republican. You ought to have to pay up for that, and he is going to. And if Michael Cohen committed crimes then he is going to have to answer for that. But just because they knew Donald Trump or had a relationship with him does not mean that whatever they did is automatically attached to the president, certainly not Manafort. But all of us were attached to the unnecessary death of a young lady whose life was ahead of her and who is dead because we have a broken immigration system. And I think the Republicans have a great opportunity to say, let's fix this, and say to the Democrats, work with us to fix it, and if you don't, then please don't tell us that you care about murder of these girls and the immigration policies that we've got to fix. CHAFFETZ: Governor, I really do appreciate your perspective. Very kind of you to join us this evening. There are other sides to this story. Another perspective on the other side of the aisle, so joining me now is Democratic strategist Jason Nichols. Jason, thank you so much for being here. I do appreciate it. I want to pick up where we left off with Governor Huckabee. The polling I've seen saying the number one issue going into the election prior to this week is immigration. And so yesterday, we ran stories about a person who was supposedly with his wife going to the hospital but ICE picked her up, and then they ran all the stories about how heartless ICE was, but it ends up that he was just wanted for murder, and that the Mexican government wanted us to detain him. Here, today, we have the allegation of the murder by an illegal immigrant, again, an allegation of a young woman who was going to be a junior in Iowa. How is this not an issue? And how is it that Democrats think that they can actually take the positions that they have on immigration and win? JASON NICHOLS, PH.D., LIBERAL COMMENTATOR: Well, I don't think anyone says this is not an issue and really quickly, I just want to send my heartfelt condolences out to the Tibbetts family, and also to the University of Iowa. I'm at the University of Maryland and we have had some recent high-profile deaths, and I have had students who have passed away, so I want to send my condolences to that entire community. I don't think Democrats are saying that immigration is not an issue, and as a matter of fact, many are saying that this is a major issue and that we need comprehensive immigration reform. This is something that you, as a member of Congress, or former member of Congress, know that both sides of the aisle agree that this is a major issue. We just don't agree on how to fix it. We don't think that separating families was the way to go about it. We don't think that some of the cruel policies that Donald Trump has promoted -- CHAFFETZ: Wait a second. Donald Trump didn't think we should be separating families either. That was something started in the Obama administration. NICHOLS: Come on, Jason. CHAFFETZ: That's true factually. NICHOLS: That is absolutely untrue. You know that catch and release -- CHAFFETZ: Yes, I do know. I was on the immigration subcommittee at the Judiciary Committee and I sat there and listened to Democrats on this issue. NICHOLS: And catch and release was the Obama policy. I understand, Jason. And catch and release with the Obama policy. You might say that that was flawed. CHAFFETZ: Yes, I would. NICHOLS: And separation of families, zero tolerance, was the Trump policy. So these separation of families was a Trump policy -- CHAFFETZ: Wasn't an Obama policy? You know it was. NICHOLS: The separation of families was not an Obama policy. CHAFFETZ: You're telling me those pictures were not under Barack Obama? NICHOLS: And this sounds a lot like what about-ism. You are better than that, Jason. CHAFFETZ: No, facts will prove that you're wrong on that one. But keep going, Jason. I like -- keep going. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Democrats are advocating, some big people like Kirsten Gillibrand and Senator Warren are advocating the abolishment of ICE. I have never seen a national party win an election by advocating getting rid of law enforcement and trying to demonize them as if they are doing something wrong other than enforcing the law. How is that a winning issue for Democrats? NICHOLS: Again, this is oftentimes misunderstood. I think what people are calling for when they say the abolition of ICE, they are talking about restructuring ICE. We think that ICE definitely does a great job when they are catching cybercriminals and catching child pornographers and doing many of the jobs that -- CHAFFETZ: Murderers. NICHOLS: We know that many of them, actually, a couple, I think it was 19 members of ICE said we want to focus on those important jobs, not on separating families and doing some of the other things that -- CHAFFETZ: You are so conflating the issue. ICE does not detain those people. NICHOLS: No, it's border patrol. CHAFFETZ: They don't. When people come across the border illegally, they don't necessarily going to ICE detention. NICHOLS: No, no, no. CHAFFETZ: It is homeland -- NICHOLS: Again, you are misunderstanding what it is that I am saying. Of course we know that ICE is not responsible for border enforcement, that is CPB, Border Patrol. What I'm saying is that ICE does, in the community that I used to live in, many years ago, they use to actually do raids that all kinds of things and separate hardworking families. And so one of the things that we are saying is that we need to restructure this particular law enforcement agency, just because ICE is a relatively new agency, as a matter of fact. CHAFFETZ: That the Democrats helped create, by the way. And they are enforcing laws the Democrats voted and supported for. Jason, I wish I could keep going with you because I love these kinds of debates. And I know you believe wholeheartedly in what you are saying and I hope we have you back on this program again. But I've got to keep moving on. Thank you, Jason. NICHOLS: I believe it because it's true. Thank you, Jason. CHAFFETZ: Thank you. Protesters topple a Confederate statue at the University of North Carolina. Is it mob rule or justified? We'll debate it next. CHAFFETZ: A wild scene in the University of North Carolina yesterday. Protesters taking down Confederate statue that had been on campus for more than 100 years. Check this out. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (SHOUTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: University leaders condemned the students' actions and are cooperating with a criminal investigation. Joining me now for reaction are Horace Cooper, cochair of Project 21, and civil rights attorney Eric Johnson. Eric, I want to start with you. It's the day before school starts. The students are gathered, they are for a couple of hours, and then next thing you know, they are not just engaging in free speech, but they are actually engaging in taking this thing down. What is your take on this? Is this free speech or is this sort of mob rule? What is your take on it? ERIC JOHNSON, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I think it is really a combination of both. It is an expression of free speech in the fact that many people are upset with the images that a lot of these studies portray. However, the fact that they did destroy public property is something of the university will take into consideration. Their methods in handling it are something that may not have been the best, however, I do believe that the university administration needed to take into consideration the sentiment in that particular community as it related to these statues, not only from individuals who didn't like them, but also some of the sentiment that they may infest and grow in individuals who seem to support them in that outdated way of thinking. CHAFFETZ: And Eric, they are may be a legitimate debate there, but aren't you concerned that here in a college campus, all of a sudden they are just saying, hey, they are allowing this to continue, cops are called in. I mean, this is breaking the law, is it not? JOHNSON: It is breaking the law, but you have to understand, you also have similar situations if the university had won the championship. There's also a lot of vandalism and things that goes on then. So at least this particular time it is not just a simple celebration of a sporting event, but these individuals are actively exercising their free speech rights and doing something that -- CHAFFETZ: But it went overboard. I want to bring in Horace here, because it wasn't just simply free speech. It was breaking the law, correct? JOHNSON: I understand it was breaking the law. CHAFFETZ: No, no, I want to go to Horace. We got Horace here with us as well. Horace, jump in here. HORACE COOPER, COCHAIR, PROJECT 21: Couple of things. One, to equate what happens when college students drink too much, become overly exuberant, and celebrate, and resulting damages with intentional destruction of private property, those are not one in the same. Those are not to be treated the same way. Yes, some damages can result from both, but we have to be very, very vigilant about making sure we are not telling young people that when you have a personal or political difference that the way to resolve that is with the use of force. CHAFFETZ: Eric, do you agree with that or disagree with it? Horace makes a great point. Do you agree or disagree with that? JOHNSON: I would agree to a point. The fact is, we never want individuals to resort to violence to solve anything. However, we have to look at the underlying reason at which the violence is being exhibited. CHAFFETZ: Absolutely. But you are saying is justified? JOHNSON: I never said that it was justified -- COOPER: You absolutely are -- JOHNSON: I'm not saying that it's justified. What I'm saying is, the fact is, you have to understand what is going on, and if you have rioting situations where they go on, whether they are for celebration or whether they are for the expression of free speech, they both have to be looked at for exactly what they are. So in this particular situation, we have a Confederate statue, which is a divisive symbol on that campus that was toppled down. So therefore, there is an understandable reason for that. CHAFFETZ: Eric, should those people will be prosecuted? Yes or no? Yes or no? JOHNSON: I do believe in some form or fashion there should be some punishment because they did, as I stated, in an ordered society you do not want the destruction of public property. CHAFFETZ: Horace, what is your take? What should happen to the students that engaged in this? JOHNSON: They should be held accountable. Here's the problem. The real problem is this -- Democrats put up the statues. Democrats engaged in behavior during my parents and grandparents and great-grandparents lifetime terrorizing them. What we have learned from this event is there are people that, just like they did at the turn-of-the- century, justified this behavior, called it underlying conflicts and concerns. We have a similar mindset at work today. If you wish to remove the statues, there should be a political conversation and a process. The mob violence was not appropriate when it terrorized black Americans in the 19th and 20th century, and it's not appropriate now in the 21st century. CHAFFETZ: Horace, well said. Eric I appreciate you being here for the debate. It will continue on, but I thank you both for your perspectives. You wouldn't think Hollywood celebrities could debase themselves any further with their blind hatred of President Trump, but you're wrong, you're wrong, because details are coming up after this. CHAFFETZ: Hollywood's cultural rot on full display last night's MTV Video Music Awards. The show in theory is supposed to honor the best in the music industry. Instead, it often devolved into anti-Trump antics in their cheapest form. Here is a sample. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I understand we are live coast-to-coast right now. I'm looking at this like it's game day, people. But do not worry, because at this game you are allowed to kneel. You can do whatever the hell you want. No old white man that can stop you. You never know what's going to happen at the VMAs. I mean, bad language, people running to the bathroom and sending out crazy tweets. It's basically like a typical day at the White House. In your face, Trump, suck it! (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: At least MTV wasn't rewarded. The ratings are in and they were the worst ever in history the VMAs. When will they realize how utterly disconnected they are from the average Americans? Joining me tonight with reaction, Lisa Boothe is a Fox News contributor and Josh McBride is an entertainment and lifestyle expert. Josh, I remember when MTV was all about Duran Duran and Men at Work. I'm that old to remember when MTV started, and now it has devolved into this thing that -- I can't even recognize the hatred that's out there and what they are spewing and what they are showing. What is your take on that? And why do you think of the ratings are literally at their all-time lowest levels? JOSH MCBRIDE, LIFESTYLE AND ENTERTAINMENT EXPERT: I think these are two separate issues. The first one being, are they spewing hatred over these two comedians doing their job on a network that has always been incredibly inclusive of sexuality, sexual orientation, race, religion, when we have a president that is not that inclusive. So when we are talking about -- CHAFFETZ: But what is inclusive about their message that they are saying about enforcing the law, that sort of thing? MCBRIDE: But isn't the law, the Constitution say freedom of speech, as well? So if two comedians, two African- American comedians are up there targeting a network and are on a network that is an incredibly inclusive of people that this president has been -- lack there of a better term -- not interested in, doesn't care about -- CHAFFETZ: Driving their unemployment levels to record -- MCBRIDE: But let's stick with on thing. From a race perspective, from an inclusive perspective, from supporting of gay rights, things like that. Let's talk specifically about those things. CHAFFETZ: The president hasn't done anything that is antigay rights. MCBRIDE: OK, this is a longer conversation. But as far as sticking with this, this was a moment for two comedians who have freedom of speech. And this is what comedians do. CHAFFETZ: There were a lot of people though, Lisa, that didn't think it was too funny, right? LISA BOOTHE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I'm sure a large proportion of the population that voted for President Trump didn't feel included last night watching the VMAs. Look, it is such an unoriginal idea now to hate the president and to be critical of him in Hollywood. It's almost so boring now, right. It's not even interesting anymore. They hate him, they go out and make these statements, and there is no shock value anymore, either. After Kathy Griffin held his head up, or a fake version of his head up, Snoop Dogg shoots him in a video, Madonna threatens to blow up the White House, there is no shock value anymore. It's boring. So be more original, Hollywood. And also, you look under President Trump, the Emmys have had the lowest ratings ever. Oscars, lowest rating ever, VMAs, lowest ratings ever. NFL has also taken a significant hit. What is the common denominator with all of this? They've all gone overtly political. Can we just have entertainment and have us be entertaining without politics injected in it? I just want to have fun. MCBRIDE: But why are we so surprised that Hollywood is so left? We do this after every -- BOOTHE: We're not, but it's gotten so pathetic now. It's not even interesting. It's not even entertaining anymore. They're not even original. CHAFFETZ: But everyone is cheering in that audience. MCBRIDE: Because they all share the same viewpoint. But the rest of America doesn't because they're not tuning in. CHAFFETZ: If I don't want that viewpoint, I am going to change the channel -- BOOTHE: Like I did. I didn't even bother with it. CHAFFETZ: But that is every TV show now, let's be honest here. MCBRIDE: It's not Fox News, I'll tell you that. CHAFFETZ: That's literally every awards show -- BOOTHE: And all those ratings are going down, down, down. MCBRIDE: Everything is going digital. I don't think we can really say -- BOOTHE: People tuned in for "Roseanne." People tune into things that they want to watch. Unfortunately you look at all of these, as I mentioned, the VMAs, the Emmys, the Oscars, even the NFL, everything that has gotten so overtly political, people are tuning out. They just want to be entertained. They don't want the volatility, they don't want the hostility, they just want something that is supposed to be entertaining to be entertaining. MCBRIDE: And this is the fundamental problem, the people that preach the most tolerance, they are the least tolerant among them. They used to be people like Jay Leno and whatnot, they picked on both sides. But when it is so one-sided, that is what is wrong. I've got to leave it there. I could go for a half-hour. But we'll be right back. Stay with us. CHAFFETZ: Many thanks for Laura Ingraham for allowing me to guest host tonight. But before we go, a quick plug for my new upcoming book. It's called "The Deep State, How an Army of Bureaucrats Protected Barack Obama and is Working to Destroy the Trump Agenda." It's available now for preorder online and hits the bookstores on September 18th. I spent eight and half years in Congress, eight and half months writing this book, I hope you check it out and get it. That's all the time we have tonight. I'm Jason Chaffetz in for Laura Ingraham. I'll be back tomorrow night. But again, my favorite person at Fox News, Shannon Bream is up next. Shannon, take it away. 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It's a busy breaking news night. I mean, it's all over the place tonight. For well over year, he has targeted President Trump and everyone around him. Just look at Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen. Did any case anything to do with Russia? After 460 days, Mueller has found literally zero evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. Zero. Now, the president is rightly calling out Mueller's witch hunt for what it is. This is now a national disgrace. In moments, we're going to have important updates on two individuals that are caught up in the special counsel's fishing expedition. Paul Manafort who is now being tried on an old bank fraud charge and from campaign volunteer advisor George Papadopoulos, who pled guilty to lying to the FBI. His wife is here with us tonight and she thinks he should withdraw that plea, and he might. And also tonight, we'll expose the media's false moral outrage over security clearances. And, by the way, it has nothing to do with free speech, and the president's decision, which was right, to strip John Brennan of his top-secret access. Brennan is now threatening to sue the administration. A move I hope he takes. In fact, take it. Take the legal action. I can't wait for that discovery, unless, of course, he used Bleach Bit and a hammer. We'll have more on that coming up tonight. Plus, we have all the latest examples of the left's disgusting rhetoric ahead of the 2018 midterms. Forget about they go low, we go high. It's just the opposite. Sit tight, buckle up. It's time for tonight's breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: Joseph Stalin's secret police chief once famously proclaimed, quote, show me the man, I'll show you the crime. Now, those are chilling words and the opposite of how the American justice system is supposed to operate. Our system is designed to prosecute crimes, not persecute individuals we disagree with. We live in a constitutional republic. We're supposed to have equal justice under the law and the equal application of our laws. Tonight, in the United States, this is all in jeopardy. After more than 15 months of intensive investigations surrounding one man, the president of the United States, more and more Americans rightly are realizing that Mueller's seemingly never ending witch hunt is not only damaging the country, but it is rocking our system of justice to its very core. And following "The New York Times'" so-called bombshell report that the White House attorney, the president's attorney, in other words, White House counsel Don McGahn, is cooperating with the special counsel investigation, the president tweeted this, quote, disgrace discredited Bob Mueller and his whole group of angry Democratic thugs spent over 30 hours with the White House counsel, only with my approval, for the purposes of transparency. Anybody needing that much time when they know there is no Russia collusion is just someone looking for trouble. They are enjoying ruining people's lives and refused to look at the real corruption on the Democratic side. The lies, the fire rings, the deleted emails and so much more. Mueller's angry Democrats are looking to impact the election, a national disgrace. So far, 25 top FBI/DOJ officials have either been fired, demoted, or resigned. Wow. Newt Gingrich is out with a brand-new op-ed. It raises this important point. Quote: it couldn't be more clear the Trump White House was comfortable talking for 30 hours with a pack of high-powered, very tough minded investigators because the president has done nothing wrong. My sources say, by the way this took place over a period of time over a while ago. And according to a brand-new report from "The Washington Post", McGahn does not believe he implicated Trump in legal wrongdoing and special counsel interviews, tells the president's legal team. For months, team Mueller has unsuccessfully tried to turn the screws on multiple individuals only because of their association with Trump. In other words, we are criminalizing political differences. They wanted something, anything they could use to get the president and instead of finding evidence with any Russian collusion, Team Mueller was only able to strong-arm their way to a couple of guilty pleas -- let's see -- lying to investigators, but the FBI didn't think they lied, 2005 tax fraud case, Paul Manafort, nothing to do with collusion, nothing to do with Russia, nothing to do with the campaign, nothing to do with Trump. We are reading about today Michael Cohen and taxicabs. Here's what you need to understand. No Mueller and neither of these men Michael Cohen or Paul Manafort would have to deal with this. No Russia, no collusion, no campaign, no Trump involvement. We will have a lot more of that coming up throughout the hour. But, first, we do have new information surrounding one of those guilty pleas, George Papadopoulos. Remember, he was the one time volunteer foreign policy advisor for the Trump campaign. This guy is facing up to six months in jail. Again, lying to the Mueller investigation. According to a report, Byron York, it appears Papadopoulos, who was in his 20s, not only played a small role in the campaign -- I followed this campaign closely, I had never heard of him -- but also played a small role in Mueller's ongoing witch hunt. In fact, Papadopoulos has not been charged with any crime related to Russia collusion, campaign conspiracy. But his life is now turned upside down. And just like Manafort and others, it looks like Michael Cohen, we're going to have plenty more on that story, his wife will join us tonight. Now, let's turn to another update from the Mueller target ball, Manafort. Jury deliberations still underway. Three full days now in the 2005 bank fraud case. The media is now looking at this as the trial of the century. It's not. Manafort facing 18 counts and a potential life in prison over charges that have nothing to do with Russia, collusion, the campaign or Donald Trump. See a pattern here? Manafort, Papadopoulos, others, they have just become pawns, really just pawns in Robert Mueller's effort to take down the president. They wouldn't be in any trouble if these people were not associated with Donald Trump, if Mueller didn't exist. So you see where this is going? And as Judge Ellis noted during Manafort's trial, Mueller is clearly turning the screws, in this case on Manafort, so that he will sing or compose, in other words, so the witch hunt can prosecute or impeach Donald Trump. Of course, Robert Mueller is just picking up or his fellow deep state sycophant John Brennan left off. Now, for months, we reported on Brennan's abuse of power and specific allegations that as of the CIA director, Brennan, disseminated Hillary's dirty Russian dossier throughout the federal government and tonight, Sara Carter has a brand-new report detailing congressional allegations that Brennan may have been responsible now for getting the dossier to then Senator Harry Reid who then subsequently released in detail to the public vis-a-vis a letter to James Comey. And Brennan, of course, is denying these claims. Now, we also called out Brennan's recent conspiracy peddling about a sitting U.S. president during his time as a, quote, MSNBC conspiracy theorist hack, and last week, President Trump stripped Brennan's security clearance, rightfully so, because the CIA, please pay attention, policy is clear. It says this: In the case of former CIA directors, the agency hold their security clearance, they renewed every five years for the rest of their lives. However -- this is the important part, the however part -- that requires former CIA directors to behave like current CIA employees. Oh, you mean like calling the president a traitor and accusing him of being compromised by Russia and all sorts of bizarre conspiracies that they peddle over at MSNBC? Brennan was obviously in violation of that policy. It's not in question. He actually accused of sitting president of treason and worse. He's used his status to legitimize what are absurd conspiracy claims about Donald Trump on national TV. Even fellow Trump-hater James Clapper, even too much for him. He questioned the level of Brennan's daily vitriol. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think that John Brennan's hyperbole is an issue here, is one of the reasons we are having this crisis? JAMES CLAPPER, FORMER DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: Well, I think it is. I think John is sort of like a freight train and he's going to say what's on his mind. I think, though, that the common denominator among all of us that have been speaking up, though, is genuine concern about the jeopardy or threats to our institutions and values, and although we may express that in different ways. I think that's what this really is about. But John and his rhetoric have become I think an issue in and of itself. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Yes, kind of. Even Clapper says it. Former chairman the Joint Chiefs of Staff, retired Admiral Michael Mullen, also criticized Brennan's rhetoric, calling it damaging to the intel community. I'll take it a step further, and the country. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ADM. MICHAEL MULLEN, FORMER CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF: John is an extraordinary servant of the country, but I think he has been incredibly critical of the president and I think that has put him in a political place which actually does more damage for the intelligence community, which is apolitical, even as he's retired. So, I really don't support him being as critical of the president as he has been. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, Admiral Mullen did not endorse Trump's decision to strip Brennan's clearance. OK, reasonable people have reasonable disagreements. But it is clear, Brennan's rhetoric alone is not fitting of a current CIA employee and he's a former director. He's now threatening to sue the Trump administration. This I beg happens. Sue. John, sue. Please. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: Well, I have been contacted by a number of lawyers and they have already given me their thoughts about the basis for a complaint, an injunction to try to prevent him from doing this in the future. If my clearances and my reputation as I'm being pulled through the mud now, if that's the price we are going to pay to prevent Donald Trump from doing this against other people, to me, it's a small price to play. So I am going to do whatever I can personally to try to prevent these abuses in the future. And if it means going to court, I will -- I will do that. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Go. Take. I'd love to see that discovery unless he used Bleach Bit and hammers. Anyway, give us the perfect opportunity to see what's going on inside all of this. By the way, in terms of corruption -- and by the way, malignant efforts to literally impact a presidential election, let's get it all exposed. The people need to know. Now, today, President Trump mocked Brennan's hollow threats. He tweeted out, quote: I hope John Brennan, the worst CIA director in our country's history will bring a lawsuit. It will be very easy to get all of his records, text, emails and documents to show not only the poor job he did, but how he was involved with the Mueller rigged witch hunt. He won't sue. I don't think you will either. Now, whether or not he actually does, he's just one of many former ranking government officials who leverage their special security status, yes, for financial gain. In fact, it pays to have a security clearance. Now, upon leaving office, what we have discovered on their show and is actually a new book out, we're going to break it all tomorrow. Many high-ranking officials use their special status to gain a lucrative offers from government contractors and others seeking their expertise. And meanwhile over at fake news CNN, proud bleep-holder himself Phil Mudd is profiting off his security clearance. He's paid at CNN. He's an analyst, got a complete meltdown when he was challenged over what is a lucrative practice among many that have top security clearances, not saying him, millions of dollars, Jim Comey. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PHIL MUDD, CNN ANALYST: When I am requested to sit on an advisory board, let me ask you one question, how much do you think I'm paid to do that at the request of the U.S. government? Give me one answer and you've got ten seconds. How much? PARIS DENNARD, CNN ANALYST: I'll ask you a question. How much are you paid for your consulting and contracting gig? MUDD: Answer the question! DENNARD: For being a former (ph) official? MUDD: I have no contracts with the U.S. government that pay money. Zero. DENNARD: I'm not -- when you have a security clearance -- MUDD: I have relationships with the private sector that involve my security clearance, zero! I get zero dollars from consulting companies that deal with U.S. government. Are we clear? DENNARD: Well, I will be clear in saying that everybody in Washington, D.C., knows -- if you don't want to be honest about it, that's on you -- but if you have a security clearance and you keep it, you get more money to have it. MUDD: We're done. We're done. Get out! UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Phil -- DENNARD: This is not your show. I'm staying right here. MUDD: Twenty-five years in the service (EXPLETIVE DELETED). Get out! (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Ten seconds, get out! Jim Comey. We're going to talk about him tomorrow. What if I told you that there are people who have security clearances and got paid by Lockheed Martin and $6 million, just pulling that out of thin air. We'll have a full report tomorrow. We are not saying Phil Mudd is involved in this in any way. We're not even saying it's nefarious, but we are saying people with security clearances, there is a money trail. And by the way, tomorrow night, we will have a full investigation, a HANNITY investigation. Investigating the investigators, follow the money. HANNITY investigation. Back in 2013, mainstream media was largely silent when the Obama administration, by the way, did the whole same thing on a much larger scale. A blatant media double standard. But as we get closer and closer to the most important midterm elections of our life, you've got to expect this coverage is going to get more insane day by day, minute-by-minute. For example, conspiracy TV MSNBC, one panelist even suggested the president wanted to round up people and murder them. Conspiracy. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Your argument that he's not the leader of the free world because not standing up for democracy -- (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's a sort of junior player in a block of authoritarian countries. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And the people like the European Union are no longer looking at him as a leader any longer period and I think they're saying -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Of course not. They see him, right, they see -- he's instead -- he's part of a block that includes Vladimir Putin, Duterte. You know, he's kind of a part of an axis of power. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, hold on -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's worse than that in a certain way. I mean, not that that's the worst thing you could have said, that's about the worst thing you could say about him. But -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's not rounding people up and murdering them without any due process. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He would certainly like to. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He would like to. Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah! And it goes on and on. By the way, if a conservative said that about Obama, oh, here come -- here come the boycotters, here they come. Meanwhile, professional Trump hater, an old friend, actually like Steve, trashing Trump supporters, kind of does it every day now. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEVE SCHMIDT, MSNBC ANALYST: His base is smaller, the Republican Party is smaller, but it is more faithful and more intense in its loyalty to Trump and 40 percent of the country has surrendered their intellectual sovereignty to Donald Trump. There is for them no such thing as objective truth anymore. What is true is what the leader says is true. What the leader believes is true. And Trump has exercised that power and 40 percent of the country has submitted themselves to it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: A little over-the-top. The rhetoric is even worse in the Democratic Party. Got one congressman, an old friend of the show, so called joking, about what? Drowning President Trump in the Potomac. Now, if you don't want this man and the Democratic Party taking control of your Congress, blocking the president, you voted for his agenda, and putting an end to the all-important deep state investigations, you want open borders, Obamacare, you want to give them your crumbs back and everything in between, then don't go out and vote in November. In the midterms, don't take it seriously. It's not like our democratic republic is hanging in the balance or anything. Now, before we get to our guests breaking just moments ago during an interview with "Reuters", the president said he is concerned that an interview with a special counsel could actually be a perjury trap. I could not agree more. Why, they are going to say you disagree with your lawyer? Now, what Rudy he was saying yesterday, I think he could have been a little bit more articulate when he said the truth is not the truth, meaning, let's say McGahn says one thing, the president says another thing, guess who decides which version they want to believe? That would be Mueller and Weissmann and Jeannie Rhee and the rest of them. Not a good idea. Joining us now, FOX News contributor Sara Carter, we have her breaking story. The author of three weeks in a row the number one "New York Times" best seller, "The Russian Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett. The president should not talk to them. We've said this over and over again. I don't think any lawyer should allow it. And the idea that Don McGahn spent 30 hours there, 30 hours, is incomprehensible to me, but it does serve, we do know what the president said and that's it. Anything else will be a perjury trap. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: That's right. Just look how Mike Flynn was treated by Bob Mueller. Flynn is a guy who told the truth according to the FBI agents who interviewed him. HANNITY: Slow down. Wait a minute, Lieutenant General Flynn, great point, tells the truth, believed to be the truth by even Peter Strzok and James Comey. JARRETT: That's right. HANNITY: And he got charged with and admitted to lying to the FBI. JARRETT: Yes, it shows you how unscrupulous and how unprincipled Bob Mueller and his team of partisans are. HANNITY: Papadopoulos too. JARRETT: I bet that Papadopoulos probably told the truth to the best of his knowledge. Papadopoulos was a bit player. But -- HANNITY: Scared, probably. JARRETT: Yes, probably scared. Probably went in there with an interview. HANNITY: He's young, in his 20s, right? JARRETT: Yes, he was 30 years old at the time. Probably went in there without a lawyer. It's never a good idea to lie to the FBI. But Papadopoulos is an interesting character. I spend a subchapter in the book about him. It was never the Papadopoulos bar talk that triggered the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. HANNITY: What was it saying -- it says on page what? JARRETT: Yes, I'll give you the page. Papadopoulos, you know, it was a rumor that he heard that he passed along. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We know that that didn't start there. The media lied about that. JARRETT: That wasn't the trigger because that couldn't possibly be probable cause to launch an investigation. Now, it was the dossier that John Brennan was the instigator of. He latched onto it and he peddled it on Capitol Hill and leaked into the media. HANNITY: Last question and I'm going to get to Sarah's column on that very topic. Would Paul Manafort be investigated but for the fact that he worked for a term? Would Michael Cohen have had to go through all -- he's going to talk about his taxicabs medallions in New York, it's a long story. They are talking about that. They're not talking about anything about collusion, Russia, the campaign or Trump. JARRETT: That's right. HANNITY: So, these guys, are they being persecuted or prosecuted? JARRETT: Well, they are being persecuted, no question about it. HANNITY: Singled out. JARRETT: The tax division of the DOJ actually investigated for years Paul Manafort and they came to the conclusion that there wasn't sufficient evidence to bring charges. HANNITY: But it's wrong to read, three days and, 18 charges, 95 percent conviction rate in federal courts. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: It's hard for him -- if he gets off, he will be the 5 percent. JARRETT: Yes, but good luck with unlimited resources and the power of the federal government. HANNITY: And he has another trial. His life is over. JARRETT: That's right. HANNITY: All right. Sara, lets go very keenly to this whole issue about - - and this gets to the heart of Brennan and you actually spoke to his former spokesperson. Let's talk about what you found as it relates to Harry Reid leaking the dossier. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: So, Brennan's former spokesperson, deputy chief of staff Nick Shapiro told me that Brennan in no way at any point in time during the summer of 2016 had access to the dossier, Sean. And he said that he didn't find out about the dossier. Well, actually, the contents of the dossier until December 2016. He's -- HANNITY: Is he lying? CARTER: According to a number of people that I've spoken with, there's a lot of concern about what Brennan is saying because they know for a fact that Director Comey was already aware that Reid was going to be sending a letter. Now, Brennan meets with Reid, and the Gang of Eight briefings on August 25th. Two days later he writes the letter. Two days after that, on August 29th, it's leaked to "The New York Times." So, there's a coincidence here, a sequence of events that happened that they need to investigate. Now, you know, Judicial Watch - (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Aren't there emails -- my little birdie friends -- I know I'm only a talk show host and we don't do investigative reporting, although we've beaten everybody as it relates to the story. That was by the way targeted at people that know who they are. I just want to say, isn't there an email chain that might prove this point? CARTER: There's actually a sequence of emails that people want to obtain and this is why Congress -- this is why Judicial Watch and others are suing for Brennan's communications as well as Comey's and Reid. Now, Reid, I wasn't able to get -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: -- the fact he did do this and he's lying about the Reid stuff? Is that what your birdies are telling you because that's what my little birdies are telling me? CARTER: Well, there are birdies out there that do believe that, Sean, but I think we need to see those facts before we go that far. But I do believe that's why they are looking for him. HANNITY: Last word. JARRETT: Brennan actually testified before Congress and in the summer of 2016, he knew about alleged Trump- Russia collusion. HANNITY: But he didn't read -- JARRETT: So his lawyer's recently belie the truth. HANNITY: All right. Great work. JARRETT: Thank you. HANNITY: The last three weeks. Great reporting, Sara. We have a lot of news to get to tonight. When we come back, George Papadopoulos' wife about major new developments concerning her husband. Will he back out of the deal with Mueller? We'll get reaction also, Jim Jordan, where are those subpoenaed documents? Next. HANNITY: All right. Welcome back to HANNITY. On Friday night, we learned that the special counsel has recommended up to six months in jail for former Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos. Now, following this news, well, George Papadopoulos' actually wife sent out, George wasn't cooperative enough in Mueller's recommendation, he cooperated for a year, he helped his country. He's been loyal to the truth, not to anybody's agenda. His cooperation is considered pointless as it didn't reveal any wrongdoing by the campaign. #myguess. Just hours ago, Papadopoulos himself tweeted: been a hell of a year. Decisions. Joining us now with more is the wife of George Papadopoulos, Simona, is with us. Welcome to the program. SIMONA MANGIANTE PAPADOPOULOS, WIFE OF GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS: Good evening. HANNITY: I've been watching from afar, can you give us any insight into your husband's tweet, decisions? PAPADOPOULOS: Well, as I said, as I said, it's been very difficult for George and I who suffered this pre-jail time lasting for far too long considering that Mueller apparently considered his cooperation worthless. As you correctly reporting the tweets, I think the real progress of the investigation was not -- we know about Mifsud who we know today's having ties to the western intelligence and have no ties with Russia, at least no evidence lead to this conclusion. It was about, do you, George, communicate this information to anyone in the campaign? Basically obsession was not about Mifsud, but about revealing any wrongdoings in the campaign. As I wrote in my tweet, George was loyal to the truth. He could not, of course, lie to please Mueller's agenda. And that's basically why he was not satisfied. But there are too many nonsense in his case. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I want to say one thing, Simona. First of all, I give you a lot of credit. You know what? I like that you are fighting for your husband. PAPADOPOULOS: Thank you. HANNITY: I also see the injustice that you see in this case. Are you saying in no uncertain terms this really wasn't the stuff that he worked -- when he worked with Mueller, they just didn't give him what Mueller was looking for, so now, he's going be punished? PAPADOPOULOS: That's my understanding and I strongly suggest this conclusion. Otherwise, I don't understand first of all why the sentencing would be postponed for months. He has been in pre-jail for one year. He's been a -- he has a lot of restriction, mostly to contact anyone working directly or indirectly in the campaign, or not having access to his professional network that tried in any possible way to obstruct his life. Not to travel, restriction to travel even within the United States. We were not even authorized to go to holidays. So, there are lots of situations that are humanly jeopardizing. But there are also other aspects of that. Legally, they're scary. If that's why I suggested to drop the plea agreement and invite Robert Mueller to show the evidence against George. Only recently he filed a motion to suppress the evidence against George, behind is -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Yes, I'm not trying -- I'm just trying to move -- I'm just trying to get to one point. PAPADOPOULOS: Yes. HANNITY: And I know obviously this is now throwing your entire family into chaos and it seems like anybody associated with Trump, this is what they do and they don't seem to care that this impacts real people, real lives like yours and your husband's. Here's my next and last question, will your husband withdraw his plea with Robert Mueller? PAPADOPOULOS: We are discussing now the possibility and the technicalities behind this possibility with lawyers. We have important meetings tomorrow, some lawyers reached out to me for my tweet. We were looking for further assistance and further legal opinions. Many of them, two of them in particular highly qualified that they suggested there is a case. This plea agreement is to me even difficult to uphold in the context of a, you know, trial by the judge because it's against the rule in many ways. There are many things that happened that is completely against the law starting from George arrest in Washington, D.C., it was not were presented by a lawyer, it was intimidating. There were no legal reasons for arresting him for a charge-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He was intimidated. MANGIANTE: Completely. It was very violent and unnecessary from the legal point of view. They could communicate this charge in a normal way to his lawyer. HANNITY: Yes. MANGIANTE: He was -- were represented by lawyers in Chicago at the time so there is the suspect. And they didn't detain him more than one day in jail just to give him a little taste and then let him go to negotiation, accept the plea agreement. So George wasn't said that. It's been -- it's a case that is manufactured to justify to me the whole investigation-- HANNITY: Simona-- MANGIANTE: -- the conversation that the three gave -- the investigation happened in May 2016 and he was interviewed in January 2017. After six months at the FBI, already issued -- used the FISA order, a court order to issue warrants on many people in the campaign. So, how to justify the original investigation, why George Papadopoulos come up as a legal player about this. Yes, (Inaudible) We need to share (Ph) this investigation. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I got to say one. MANGIANTE: Right. HANNITY: Let me just say a last thing. And for those that don't think there's a perjury trap for Donald Trump, look at your life and your husband's life. Look at Lieutenant General Flynn's life and what happened to him. They didn't even think he was lying. Simona, I wish you a lot of luck with your lawyers on this. I know it's hard. MANGIANTE: Thank you. HANNITY: Thank you for sharing your story. MANGIANTE: Thank you very much. HANNITY: Joining us now with more reaction, Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan. You know, would Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen, George Papadopoulos, and any of them, any of them be in any issues today but for Robert Mueller going well beyond no Trump, no Russia, no collusion. Not even a campaign issue. And this is where-- REP. JIM JORDAN (R), OHIO: Yes. HANNITY: -- this is where we are and you can even get the documents you've subpoenaed. JORDAN: Right. Right. And Gregg Jarrett is exactly right. The main issue is the dossier, not Mr. Papadopoulos, not these other things that we are hearing about. The dossier, now understand this. Bruce Ohr's wife worked for the firm hired by the Clintons to produce the dossier, and four weeks ago in a congressional hearing Peter Strzok said the FBI got the dossier from Bruce Ohr. It is not supposed to work that way. But that -- so that's the key. We need to get Bruce Ohr in there next week and ask him all kinds of questions, like who was he giving the dossier to? Who received it at the FBI? Who was the person he handed it to? Did Sally Yates or Rod Rosenstein know what he was up to when he was meeting with Glenn Simpson and Christopher Steele these numerous times? Lots of important questions. That's the real focus. All this other stuff is off on the side. The real focus is that dossier because that's what they used to get the warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. HANNITY: When we get the dossier and when we get the 302s, what are we going to learn, because my sources are telling me that it was all about the dossier as the Nunes memo, the Grassley-Graham memos have said, all of it, no dossier, McCabe said it. If there would have been no FISA warrant. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: And you look at the tactics of Mueller. I mean, why is this Manafort trial going on? Why did this come out of the special counsel? You know, and the same can be said -- now we're reading about Michael Cohen in taxicabs. Not about Russia. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: Not about collusion, not about the campaign. JORDAN: Yes. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And we do know real crimes were committed and real Russian influence. JORDAN: We'll never get to the heart of this, the Clinton campaign paid Perkins Coie law firm who paid Fusion GPS who paid Christopher Steele who talked to Russians to put together a dossier that was fake that was fraudulent that they took to a secret court, didn't tell the court who paid for it, got the warrant to spy on the other campaign. That's the real issue and it all started with that dossier. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And Brennan leak it to -- are there e-mails that show Brennan leaking this information? JORDAN: It looks like it. HANNITY: Which I agree. JORDAN: I don't know for sure. But it looks like Brennan leaked it to Harry Reid and you know, and then you go down this list of people who should lose their clearance and there's all kinds of problems. HANNITY: Twenty five -- twenty five top FBI and DOJ officials that have either been fired, demoted, resigned. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: The top people, not rank-and-file. JORDAN: Serious stuff. HANNITY: All right. Thank you, Jim Jordan. Rudy Giuliani warning Mueller is trying to meddle in the 2018 elections. Alan Dershowitz, Andy McCarthy, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ATTORNEY: They are trying to run it right into the election. And if that's their strategy the American people really have to learn that. I mean, if they are trying to do the same thing Comey did, they are trying to become judge and jury of the 2018 elections, that is a tragedy with a phony investigation like this. They simply don't have any evidence of collusion and they have no evidence of obstruction other than their version of the truth. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That was the attorney for president, Rudy Giuliani weighing in on this never ending Mueller probe. Meanwhile, earlier today Fox News contributor, former assistant United States attorney for the Southern District of New York, Andy McCarthy put out this incredible piece. "Robert Mueller shouldn't even ask Trump for an interview." He joins us now along with the author of the best seller "The Case Against Impeaching Trump" which I am very fond of this book, along with Judge Pirro's book and Gregg Jarrett's book. The three of them are all worth a great read. Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz. Good to see you both. ALAN DERSHOWITZ, PROFESSOR, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL: Thank you. HANNITY: Let me begin with you, Andy McCarthy on your piece. If the lawyer gives them 30 hours, the White House counsel, the president goes in. Remember, George Papadopoulos, lieutenant General Flynn lying and the FBI didn't think that Flynn was lying. Papadopoulos is basically a non-player kid in all of this. Why would the president think anything but a perjury trap awaits him? ANDREW MCCARTHY, FORMER U.S. ASSISTANT ATTORNEY: Sean, I think that that is obviously what the problem is for him here. We have a history of this investigation where, you know, one person remembers something one way, somebody else remembers it at a different way. The same thing happened with General Flynn. At first they decide he's telling the truth. Then they decide that he's not. Thirty hours of conversation about what the president was saying and what he was thinking in connection with the very actions that Mueller is looking into. If the president were to go in and submit to an interview, if he remembers anything differently from the way that his attorney remembers it, the White House counsel, then they have a conflict. And as I've tried to point out, those who say that an innocent person doesn't have anything to worry about or an honest person doesn't have anything to worry about speaking to a prosecutor are nuts because it's the prosecutor, not the honest person who decides whether you are being honest or not. HANNITY: Yes. And Andy, let's be clear. MCCARTHY: Sure. HANNITY: When Rudy said this weekend and I would argue it's inarticulate, you know, the truth is not the truth, what he was clearly saying was I would argue legal jargon. As a former prosecutor he knows well that you are going to have say, Don McGahn has one story, the president says one thing that's different, the person that will decide what is the truth will be the special counsel that we all know is predisposed against Donald Trump. MCCARTHY: Right. HANNITY: So that is clear as day what he meant. Inarticulate, but he's right. MCCARTHY: Yes, that's the point he's trying to make. It's the prosecutor who is the arbiter of the truth and that doesn't mean the prosecutor is right. It just means that's the way the system is set up. HANNITY: Yes. And Professor Dershowitz, I've got to get you to weigh in here. This is a -- this is really -- why would the White House counsel ever give them 30 hours? DERSHOWITZ: Well, I think he, originally the original plan of the Trump defense team was to cooperate in the hope that the investigation would quickly end. That hope has been dashed. But going back to Rudy Giuliani for a second, I have an article on gauge tone (Ph) today in which I say when the truth isn't the truth, making exactly the same point that Andy made that I've been making now for three months, that in order to fall into a perjury trap all you need is one witness who contradicts one statement-- HANNITY: Bingo. DERSHOWITZ: -- that the person says to the prosecutor. That witness can be somebody who is singing, composing, who has flipped, who has a deal, who's been told either you are going to die in prison or you are going to tell us what we want to hear. And any defense lawyer who would ever walk a client into a perjury trap under those circumstances has to have his license reconsidered. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And this -- this is -- let me ask you a question I was asking Gregg earlier, professor, and that is this. Will Paul Manafort being prosecuted now, but for all this, nothing to do with Russia, no collusion. Nothing to do with Trump, nothing to do with the campaign. Then the same goes for General Flynn. The same goes for Papadopoulos, and the same really goes for Michael Cohen. Isn't that true? That this is selective prosecution, or what you call the criminalization of political differences? DERSHOWITZ: Well, you don't have to ask me that question, ask Judge Ellis who is presiding over the Manafort case. He has stated publicly that the special counsel is not interested in Manafort's alleged crimes. They are only interested in squeezing him in order to get him to flip into either sing or compose. Those are words used by Judge Ellis against the president. HANNITY: So well said. DERSHOWITZ: The same thing as to Cohen. Medallions, what is medallions have to do with the scope of the special investigation? HANNITY: Nothing. DERSHOWITZ: They are investigating him in the Southern District of New York but they are clearly cooperating with the special counsel. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, but Mueller sent the counsel, let's be honest. DERSHOWITZ: The goal of all of this -- right. HANNITY: And I have-- DERSHOWITZ: The goal of all of this is to squeeze these people. HANNITY: Rudy has worked there. DERSHOWITZ: All right. Andy, we'll give you the last word. I'm really beginning to have more problems than I ever thought with our criminal justice system. A guy that's facing 100 years, a key witness in the Manafort case. Really? It sounds like form of bribery to me. MCCARTHY: Yes. Well, look, Sean, I think part of the reason the jury may be having trouble with the case is the way it was teed up for them. Mueller makes a deal with Gates, who basically gets to walk for the same conduct. HANNITY: Hundred years. MCCARTHY: This guy, Manafort may spend the rest of his life in jail on. HANNITY: You guys have both been amazing. Also-- (CROSSTALK) DERSHOWITZ: I'm glad conservatives are finally seeing the light about this. That conservatives are finally being critical of the justice system. HANNITY: You were right, I'll admit. In some case you're right, I was wrong. Tomi Lahren next. HANNITY: All right. Our own Tomi Lahren hit the streets of Los Angeles to find out what people really know about socialism. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TOMI LAHREN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Are you familiar at all with a little thing called socialism? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. LAHREN: What you think about it? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I love it. LAHREN: You love socialism. What you love about it? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I like to socialize with everybody. LAHREN: No, not socialize. Socialism. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm not really sure what socialism actually is. LAHREN: So, socialism is basically an economic system where everybody is equal. There is no rich and there's no poor. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I get it. It's kind of like what Cuba does. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not quite so clear on these definitions of socialism. But I think it's important that this isn't just every man for himself. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't know because socialism has worked in some places. LAHREN: Where? I'm still trying to find where socialism has worked. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't know either. LAHREN: Do know the difference between a Democrat and a socialist? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Honestly, no. LAHREN: How do you feel about socialism, sir? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's great. I just got back from Europe, four weeks in Europe. Free health care, good schools, it's wonderful. LAHREN: Free everything. Do you think that work? (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Not that free. You have to pay for it. LAHREN: A recent poll just came out saying that Democrats now view socialism more favorably than they view capitalism. What are your thoughts? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It doesn't make any sense. Socialism is ridiculous. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm for it. LAHREN: You are for socialism? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am for it. LAHREN: Why? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because I think everybody should have a fair opportunity for health care and, yes. LAHREN: Does fair mean free? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fair remains free. LAHREN: Do you hear any of your friends talk about socialism? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nope. LAHREN: You don't talk about politics at all? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nope. LAHREN Do you know who Bernie Sanders is? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. LAHREN: He believes in socialism. Are you a Bernie Sanders supporter? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't like Donald Trump, so (muted), why not? LAHREN: Anything not Donald Trump is OK? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. LAHREN: There are some, Democrats mostly, who believe socialism sure replace capitalism. Do you think that's ever going to happen? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Personally I do not think that's ever going to happen. I think capitalism is fantastic. It gives every American an opportunity to earn an income each individual. LAHREN: Well, thank you so much. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. LAHREN: Have a great day, good to see you. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Two people got it right. Two. Here with reaction author of the brand new book "Why We Fight" Fox News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka and former Secret Service agent NRATV contributor, Dan Bongino, whose brother I met today, much better looking and smarter than him. I'm just teasing. Dr. Gorka, let's start with you. What's your reaction to that? Because that is the modern Democratic Party. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: It's stunning. Sean, we are both old enough to remember November 9th 1989 where thanks to the good officers of Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher and St. John Paul II the captive people of East Germany with their own hands took down the Berlin Wall. We fought communism, socialism had had a stake driven through its heart. But it's like those zombies and those horror movies. It's coming back. And these people don't know. I mean, Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders don't know that Lenin and Marx said socialism is just the way point on the way to communism. Communism is the objective of socialism is what Lenin said. And the stunning thing is Margaret Thatcher was right. Socialism is great until you if you run of everybody else's money. Just like you see in Venezuela, Sean. HANNITY: I used the same quote often and we are running out of other people's money, Dan Bongino. It's kind of shocking. I mean, there's a pretty big percentage of the electorate that I don't think really understands the difference. DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: No, they don't. I'm reminded of that scene from Billy Madison. You know, we're all dumber for having seen that, Sean. Socialism is not free stuff. Socialism is death. It's despair, it's starvation. It is the government controlled the means of production. Europe and Denmark and Scandinavia and Nordic countries are not socialist. Socialism is for imbeciles. Don't be an imbecile. These are capitalist countries with high taxes. If you want to argue about taxes we can argue with the left about taxes. But Denmark, Scandinavia and Europe, these are not socialist countries. These are capitalist economies where the government does not own the means of production. It just taxes us, not out of its citizens. I wish these people would wake up and read a book. HANNITY: Dr. Gorka? GORKA: Yes. This is a great myth. None of these countries are socialist countries. The land of BMW in Germany, the land of Volvo in Sweden. The land of Nokia. Sorry. These are capitalist states that tax their people a lot, but aren't communist states and aren't socialist states. And the other thing is we protected them for 70 years. So they have the capacity to choose butter over guns. Now they are in trouble when they have to defend themselves. So it's a fantasy land. It's Alice in Wonderland, Sean. HANNITY: You both get an A-plus tonight. Quoting Margaret Thatcher, Dr. Gorka, and taxing the it's not out of them, Dan Bongino. BONGINO: Thank you. HANNITY: And I did meet your brother today. He is better looking, smarter and younger. I'm just saying. BONGINO: He is. He's not smarter. He's definitely better looking though, but he's not smarter. HANNITY: Our video of the day next. HANNITY: Today, the president honored ICE officers and officials at the White House. They deserve it. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: To everyone here today from Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Customs and Border Protection, I want to let you know that we love you, we support you, we will always have your back and I think you know that. That you have to go through what you are going through and few have to be having to be demeaned by people that have no idea what strength is, is really very sad, and just a small group that gets a lot of publicity, because they have no courage, they have no guts, they just have big, loud mouths. We don't want to put up with that. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That would be, like, the whole Democratic Party, the ones that want to eliminate ICE. Not all of them but too many of them. You know what, I've been what, 12 plus times down to the border, horseback, helicopter, boats, all-terrain vehicles, I've been to drug warehouses, floor to ceiling, massive drugs being brought into our country. I've seen tunnels, human trafficking, drug trafficking, yes, all against us. we can protect it with a big door. All right. Let not your heart be troubled. It's all the time we have left. We will always be fair and balanced. Jason Chaffetz, by the way, oh, tomorrow night 9:00 p.m. I'm stealing your time. Investigating the Investigators, Following the Money, a HANNITY investigation. All right, Mr. Chaffetz, you are in for Ingraham tonight, and I got to meet your brother. It's like the brother day at Fox. Load-Date: August 21, 2018 End of Document No Headline In Original Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST August 20, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8677 words Byline: Jason Chaffetz, Dan Hoffman, Ed Henry Guests: Chris Swecker, Roger Fisk, James Trusty, Scott Bolden, Brandon Judd, Jose Aristimuno, Anthony Tall, Gianno Caldwell, Robert Driscoll, John Malcolm, Cathy Areu, Kristin Tate Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: I have seen tunnels, human trafficking, drug trafficking. Yes, all against us. We can protect it with a big door. All right, let not your heart be troubled. It's all the time we have left. We'll always be fair and balanced. Jason Chaffetz, by the way, oh, tomorrow night 9:00 p.m. I'm stealing your time. Investigating the Investigators, Following the Money, a HANNITY investigation. All right, Mr. Chaffetz, you are in for Ingraham tonight, and I got to meet your brother. It's like the brother day at Fox. JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS HOST: My brother Alex is (inaudible). Thanks, you're always so good. And I love it when you talk about the Border Patrol and ICE. And we are going to talk about that tonight on this hour as well so, thank you Sean. I appreciate it. Good evening from New York. I'm Jason Chaffetz in for Laura Ingraham, who is on vacation, and we have a fantastic show for you tonight with so much news. I don't know how we are going to get it all to fit in. President Trump is once again attacking the media, this time, over the White House counsel's interview with the Mueller probe. Did Don McGahn turn on the president? I don't think so. We'll tell you the real story in just a few minutes. While many Democrats are calling for ICE to be abolished, President Trump was honoring the heroes of ICE And Border Patrol at the White House today. The latest controversy, though, ICE taking heat for arresting an international murder suspect. Unbelievable. Details coming up. Plus, a new wave of violence sweeping Chicago over the weekend, and you won't believe how city officials are responding now. But first, our top story, Donald Trump versus John Brennan. Last week, the White House announced that Trump has stripped Obama's CIA director turned left-wing cable news pundit, John Brennan, of his security clearance. How dare he do that? Brennan isn't going away quietly, threatening legal action in and doubling down on his most outrageous claims. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: I called his behavior treasonous which is to betray one's trust and to aid and abet the enemy, and I stand very much by that claim. I have seen the lights blinking red in terms of what Mr. Trump has done and is doing and is bringing this country down on the global stage and he's fueling and feeding divisiveness within our country. He continually lies to the American people. The types of things he's doing, I think I need to speak out. And so I've been speaking out rather forcefully because I believe it's important to do so. I don't believe I'm being political at all. I'm not a Republican, I'm not a Democrat. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Nothing political, right. President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, struck back at Brennan's apolitical claims earlier tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUDY GIULIANI, ATTORNEY FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP: John Brennan was not a particularly distinguished anything. He was a political operative. He hasn't been an intelligence officer in a long time. He's been a political hit man. His language demonstrates that. The president committed treason? Treason? Come on. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Well, Brennan may want to be careful because it's not just Trump's allies that are criticizing him now. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, there are intelligence officials who are uncomfortable with how far Brennan has gone. JAMES CLAPPER, FORMER DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: I think John is sort of like a freight train and he's going to say what's on his mind. I think, though, that the common denominator among all of us that have been speaking out, though, is genuine concern about the jeopardy or threats to our institutions and values. And although we may express that in different ways, then I think that's what this really is about. But John and his rhetoric have become, I think about an issue in and of itself. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Yeah, it has become an issue. Joining me now for reaction are Dan Hoffman, a Fox News contributor and former CIA station chief, Chris Swecker, former assistant FBI director, and Roger Fisk, former aide to Secretary of State John Kerry and a Democratic strategist. Roger, I want to go to your first. I give you the first shot at this. Treason? Do we really think this is treasonous to do these types of things? ROGER FISK, FORMER AIDE TO SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY: Well, Mr. Brennan is perfectly capable of speaking for himself so I don't feel like I need to amplify or defend his points, but I do believe -- CHAFFETZ: Wait, can you defend to his point or are you supportive of his point? I mean (inaudible) for your opinion of and he's making, you know, the penalty for treasonous is death. So, do you really believe that the president is being treasonous? FISK: Again, Mr. Brennan can quantify this or classify it however he likes. CHAFFETZ: He doesn't quantify it. FISK: It's up to him to speak for himself. I think what's really interesting is how many other folks that normally don't speak out publicly at all are willing to join into this conversation and I think people should take notice of that. CHAFFETZ: So, I mean, I take it from that there really is a defense to go that far. Chris, legally, the president can take away security clearance, right? Is there any judge in the world that is going to say, no, the president doesn't have the authority to take away somebody's security clearance? CHRIS SWECKER, FORMER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, FBI: They act like there is some sort of property right to keep a security clearance, post government work. And there is no such thing. I mean, what he is doing is irresponsible and selfish because it makes -- he is identified with the intelligence community and I was a member of that. And it makes all of us looks like a bunch of partisan hacks when he goes off, you know, in every direction spewing all this vitriol. It really reflects poorly on the intelligence community. People sit back and say, well, now we know what he was thinking back when he was the head of the CIA. It doesn't reflect well. CHAFFETZ: No, I do. I think it does undercut the credibility of an agency that prides itself on being a nonpartisan and apolitical. Newt Gingrich was on "Fox and Friends" this morning. Let's listen to his point of view and Dan, I would like you to react to it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: How would you like to have director of Central Intelligence so lacking in common sense that he thinks he can write a tweet accusing the president of the United States of the equivalent of treason, high crimes and misdemeanors, and then explain that he's really not political? Look John Brennan is totally political. He was basically a toady to President Obama. He participated in lying to the American people about what happened in Libya and Benghazi, and frankly, Brennan should never have been director of the Central Intelligence. (EN VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Dan, what is your reaction? Is Newt Gingrich, the speaker, was he correct? SWECKER: I think so. I mean, we've troops in Syria and Afghanistan. We've got -- CHAFFETZ: Sorry, let me make sure Dan gets in there. Go ahead. DAN HOFFMAN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Thanks. A couple of points here. John Brennan has made some outrageous claims including that Vladimir Putin could blackmail President Trump and he called President Trump guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors after the Helsinki summit. If John Brennan really believes these things, I think he would've been better off as a professional intelligence officer rather than saying this on MSNBC or writing it in the press. He might've gone straight to the special counsel and explained what his concerns were. But the problem is that it's not just our own citizens who are listening to John Brennan. There are foreign governments and foreign spies stealing secrets on our behalf who are going to believe that John Brennan knows something that maybe we don't and their trust in our government is going to be degraded. Our national security as a result will be impacted negatively. The second point I would make quickly is that those who signed this letter might question whether they want to be tethered to John Brennan, who is really kind of the weak link in this chain here. He's not a credible witness and I think that those who are concerned about the security clearance issue and maybe feel like the CIA, who held Brennan's clearance, should have been responsible for either revoking it or not. I think their argument is really damaged because so again, Brennan is just not a credible witness at all. CHAFFETZ: So Roger, does he -- does Dan make a point here? That is, we undercut the credibility with our foreign adversaries of the sitting president? Doesn't that concern you at all? FISK: I think -- it does, but there is plenty of things to concern me in that same realm. The president leaking intelligence that we got from Israeli sources to the Russian ambassador in the Oval Office. Whatever happened in the two hours in Helsinki? This, I think joins -- CHAFFETZ: But why does that concern you? Why do suddenly Democrats get concerned with that? The idea that the president is engaging in diplomacy is something that I've always thought that Democrats engaged in and supported and then Donald Trump does it and suddenly he's criticized for it. FISK: Well, I've actually been in these rooms. I'm assuming some of the rest of the panel have as well and probably you as well, congressman. But there is always note takers, there is always interpreters, there is always some kind of official record, and it's no accident that as soon as Helsinki was over, we come home from that, and then there's the announcement that there is not going to be readouts from phone calls with foreign leaders. So, I think I agree with the instincts about being concerned about what's going on. I think the Brennan-Trump thing has kind of taken on its own life in the last 48 hours that I don't think anyone is a necessarily proud of or happy with. But if one has the instincts and the antenna (ph) for being concerned about national security, I wouldn't put Mr. Brennan and his actions in the last four or five days at the top of that list. CHAFFETZ: I would because I think he uses that as a tool for his own personal political gain and financial gain. That's my own personal opinion. But Chris, it begs the question, why do people in perpetuity continue to get security clearances after they leave office? It's expensive to do, right? But what -- is this really justified in this day and age? SWECKER: I don't think so. I think there are far too many people post government service who retain their clearances. They are expensive. They got to do re-investigations periodically and it really, the test is or the criteria, is it in the best interest of the government for them to keep their clearances? And I would say, the number of people that retain those clearances, the answer is no. It's a commercial gain for them, not so much benefit to the government. CHAFFETZ: And the cost is exorbitant. My understanding is, I think it was some $15,000 to re-up and do this and you really ought to go back to what Senator Patrick Moynihan from New York did some 27 years ago. He spearheaded a commission that said, when everybody has a security clearance, nobody has a security clearance. When everything is classified, nothing is classified. And what I would really like to see actually is the government in a bipartisan way, have Trump and the Speaker and the majority leader appoint a bipartisan panel to review this whole thing (inaudible) top to bottom, and come up with a real solution because we got to get on both sides of the aisle, take the politics out of it and figure this out. Now Dan, I got to ask you, we've had some terrific things that Brennan has done and taking away security clearances. What do you say to those men and women who were, say in Benghazi or other places and they see this Brennan out there spilling what he's spewing today? HOFFMAN: I'll be honest I don't think it impacts our intelligence community at all. We've, historically, and I think it carries on today, we are just -- we just don't pay attention to those things. John Brennan can say what he wishes, but there is no impact on the men and women of the CIA who were just going about their jobs, focused on the mission, focused on recruiting spies and stealing secrets. Even though John Brennan didn't like to say that we steal secrets. That's what we do. And write all source analysis so the president can make educated foreign policy decision. And I think John Brennan is bringing dishonor on himself but I really don't think he is impacting the intelligence community. CHAFFETZ: Well, good. I hope he's 100 percent right and the men and women who are serving in our intelligence services can't thank them enough for the great work, and I hope these little sideshows that this former director had put in place are dismissed for the shenanigans that they are. Gentlemen, I thank you for joining us tonight. The media overhypes yet another leak in the Mueller probe. We'll have the real story up next. CHAFFETZ: You won't believe this, but it seems the media has overhyped a Mueller probe story. "The New York Times" put out a piece over the weekend that said White House counsel Don McGahn spoke to special counsel Robert Mueller's team for about 30 hours, revealing new details about the president's attitude toward the Russia probe. That prompted some to speculate that McGahn had "turned on Donald Trump." But "The Washington Post" is out with a new report stating that McGahn does not think he put Trump in any legal jeopardy. Citing what McGahn's attorney has revealed to President Trump's lawyers. And earlier tonight, Trump lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, made this key point. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUDY GIULIANI, ATTORNEY FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP: Here's the most important thing. I knew not to worry about it because if the president have said anything criminal to the counsel of the White House, McGahn wouldn't be there now. McGahn, as a matter of legal ethics and possibly even law, would have to quit. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Good point. Joining me now with reaction from Washington, D.C., are James Trusty, a white-collar litigation attorney, and Democrat attorney Scott Bolden. Gentlemen, thank you so much for being here tonight. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good evening. CHAFFETZ: So the internal debate, the discussion is, did they do the right thing? Did they cooperate? Did they not cooperate? Did they open it up? Did they fight back? Now, presidents in recent history have fought, they've kept executive privilege. They have fought for that. But Donald Trump got to waive that, he said hey, give him a million plus documents. So you got McGahn, you got others that have been there for interviews. So the question is, is the president doing the right thing or not doing the right thing? Scott, what say you? SCOTT BOLDEN, NATIONAL BAR ASSOCIATION PAC CHAIR: Well, I think it depends on what legal team he had at the time. In the very beginning, remember John Dowd was trying to cooperate and make the investigation go away. We've all been there. We know that strategy is very important. They walked away from this -- he's walked away from his lawyers. He's got a new team in and now they are fighting because they think the Mueller investigation is tainted with prejudice. The reality is, though, the executive privilege is super important. It frees the general counsel -- I'm sorry, the White House counsel, it protects the president and to waive it based on cooperation is very dangerous. Now it's good that the lawyers are talking but the reality is, 30 hours is a really, really long time and I will be honest with you, under oath, telling the truth, McGahn is a pretty ethical guy. He's fought with Trump before, that's a lot of time. CHAFFETZ: Yeah, but it is telling, though, right, that the president is waiving all the privileges, not putting up the legal defense that he could have done, doesn't he score some points in terms of openness and transparency? Maybe he's confused. BOLDEN: But he's completely inconsistent, if you (inaudible), isn't he? I mean, he's attacked the Mueller investigation, right? CHAFFETZ: Wait, let's make James jump in here. Sorry, let James jump in. JAMES TRUSTY, FORMER DOJ PROSECUTOR: Thanks, Jason. Look, I don't think it's that inconsistent or at least it's an inconsistency he can live with. He can still attack the Mueller probe and say that they are doing things wrong, saying that they are comprised of partisans, whatever you want to say, but also be able to say at some point, hey, I, as president, was transparent. I allowed my attorney to speak unfettered to them for 30 hours. I turn over millions of documents. So again, it's unnerving for us lawyers to think of waving an available privilege but I think it might serve the message pretty well for the president overall, which is, even though he doesn't like this probe, he's willing to be cooperative and give him what he wants. CHAFFETZ: Ana James, is Giuliani right? I mean, if McGahn had evidence of a crime or something that was going on there in the White House, he wouldn't be here, right? TRUSTY: I think that's a pretty good assumption. I think that's probably right, and I hesitate only because Rudy might change his comments any minute. But overall, I think he's got this one right. CHAFFETZ: Scott, do you think Giuliani made the right assessment in his comments that he made tonight? BOLDEN: I don't think he knows what he's talking about in the sense that he doesn't know what McGahn said for those 30 hours, neither does Trump. They know what his lawyer said, but the fact he even took a lawyer in shows that he was concerned about not only maintaining his integrity, but also the fact that he did have a concern about Donald Trump setting him up as the fall guy ala Dean in the Nixon investigation. But the reality is, we really just don't know. But we're going to find out, and I got to tell you, I think McGahn is more important than Cohen in regards to what he knows about the White House, the president, Comey, and any issues of obstruction or conspiracy going on at the White House and during the campaign. CHAFFETZ: Now James, wasn't it Director Comey who said he wasn't really going to chase after false statements? I mean, look, I was very involved in the Hillary Clinton e-mail investigation. There were a lot a lot of false statements that were made, but the FBI never pursued that. Is this a double standard yet again? TRUSTY: Well, it certainly is unsettling, a little weird to see this. I mean the inspector general report specifically talked about a witness in the Hillary Clinton probe lying repeatedly, lying to the point where the agents were kind of commenting to themselves, wow! We could do a 1,001 fall statement prosecution against this guy. But meanwhile, Comey swore it off, said we're not going to do -- we're not going to trouble ourselves with these little false statement cases in the Hillary e-mail probe. But in Trump, they have been handing them out like candy. I mean, obviously, Michael Flynn, but the notion of a perjury trap, the notion of a false statement prosecution is alive and well in this case, although it didn't seem to be in the other ones. CHAFFETZ: And Scott, that is the problem. I mean, Hillary Clinton was under oath when she testified before the Benghazi committee. Jim Jordan, after some very direct questions and I'm telling you, she absolutely, totally lied. And we -- I signed a letter as the chairman of the oversight committee asking the FBI, along with I believe Bob Goodlatte, the chairman of the judiciary committee to investigate that and the FBI and Department of Justice never even bothered to respond. BOLDEN: Well, every DOJ is their own individual agency. I mean, I thought my colleague was about to make the argument because it is. CHAFFETZ: Why? Why? That's what funny -- do you know what, you hit on just the right point, because that's what's wrong with justice in this country right now. J BOLDEN: Well, I'll tell you what. CHAFFETZ: Justice takes -- no, it peaks over that blindfold and sees if it's a Clinton. If it's a Clinton they let them go. BOLDEN: Well, we never say Republicans to fix it then. Tell the Republicans to fix it because they won't even produce documents to the Republicans of the House and set -- CHAFFETZ: What do you mean? Donald Trump just produced more than a million document instead of holding off and saying, hey, you know what, I can pull executive privilege. When fast and furious happened and we had dead Americans, guess what? They gave 2,000 weapons out there. What did Eric Holder and the Department of Justice did? BOLDEN: You DOJ department hasn't produced any documents or very little in regard to the House and Senate investigation -- CHAFFETZ: Hey, I don't want you to support (inaudible) part of it. BOLDEN: I got to find something to agree with you on -- CHAFFETZ: but each department -- BOLDEN: But did you want Come? Would you rather have Comey, who wouldn't prosecute false statements and largely the FBI because that is what you are facing? Now you've got Mueller, and Mueller is doing his job. So you can't have it both ways and Republicans can't. And by the way, this is a Republican investigation. Isn't it? CHAFFETZ: Yes. BOLDEN: Yes, it is. Absolutely. CHAFFETZ: But Scott, you hit on it, I got to wrap up. I got to let you gentlemen go, but you hit on it. Each Department of Justice is its own agency based on -- that is what is fundamentally wrong. Justice should be blindfold! BOLDEN: They all have discretion, though. CHAFFETZ: And that discretion has been tainted with politics. Gentlemen, I have to go. I really do appreciate it. President Trump is hitting back at the abolish ICE movement and hitting back hard. A full report, next. CHAFFETZ: President Trump escalating his war of words with the left over its calls to abolish ICE. The president blasting the abolish ICE Radicals during an event honoring ICE and Border Patrol agents at the White House today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PRESIDENT TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Incredibly, a coalition of open borders extremists, and to me that means crime, people that don't mind crime -- They minded when it happens to them. They don't mind it when they have to watch it on television -- have waged an unprecedented assault on American law enforcement, our greatest people, threatening ICE and Border Patrol for performing their duties admirably and for defending our country from horrible people and horrible, horrible events and crimes. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Joining me now for debate is National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd and Democratic strategist Jose Aristimuno. Jose, I appreciate you and Brandon being with us, but Jose, I got to ask you, did the president do the right thing today honoring those federal employees, the ICE and Border Patrol agents? JOSE ARISTIMUNO, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Jason, there are currently over 500 children who are separated from their parents because of the policies of this administration -- CHAFFETZ: Wait, wait, wait. ARISTIMUNO: Let me finish, let me finish. CHAFFETZ: No, no, Jose, no. I want you to answer the question that I asked, not the question that you want to go off and talk about. The question, it's a simple one. Did the president -- ARISTIMUNO: Well, I got a simple answer but you got to let me answer the question. I can't -- if you interrupt me I can't speak so let me finish really quick. This is my -- CHAFFETZ: But if you're not answering the question I asked you, I am going to interrupt you. Did the president do the right thing? ARISTIMUNO: He did not do the right thing, Jason, because it needs to be - - CHAFFETZ: By honoring ICE and Border Patrol agents? ARISTIMUNO: Absolutely. He did not do the right thing. We should be looking for ways to reunite these children. We know that the ICE agency right now is not using its resources the way that it's supposed to by enacting this senseless and this anti-immigrant, zero-tolerance policy. This is not a type of celebration. CHAFFETZ: So, wait, wait, wait. Timeout. Jose, this is an important point. Don't say that we are anti-immigrant. We are anti-illegal immigrant. So don't leave the word illegal out of the statement. ARISTIMUNO: Undocumented, Jason. It's undocumented, but it's OK. CHAFFETZ: It's against the law. Is it legal or illegal to be here undocumented? ARISTIMUNO: They are undocumented. Look, I'm going to make it real simple -- CHAFFETZ: Jose, simple question, is it legal or illegal? ARISTIMUNO: Let me say it again. They are undocumented. CHAFFETZ: Is that legal or illegal? ARISTIMUNO: It's not a serious crime. It's not a serious crime, Jason. We got to make a choice. Look, can I -- let me flip the question and maybe you can answer the question. CHAFFETZ: No, I don't want you to flip me the question. No, no, no. Jose, you are not here to flip my question, I'm here to ask you questions. They were simple questions. But now I'm going to let Brandon give his perspective because there's another side to this story -- ARISTIMUNO: Sure. CHAFFETZ: -- and I want to get the Border Patrol's perspective on this. BRANDON JUDD, PRESIDENT, NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL: I'm listening. CHAFFETZ: Brandon, did the president do the right thing by honoring ICE and Border Patrol agents? JUDD: He absolutely did. I knew Brian Terry personally. It hit me when he died. I knew Nick Ivie's brother. I worked side-by-side with Nick Ivie's brother, and when he died. So, you know, when the president is honoring those heroes that put their lives on the line to protect our citizens, of course that's the right thing to do. Jason, you are the only sitting congressman that I know of that actually patrolled the border. You ceased dope (ph), you know. You know personally how difficult that job it is, how difficult is it? CHAFFETZ: Well, I have been there multiple times to the border and I did. I went out. We chased and caught this dope and it was bad. It was really bad. They would have ended up on the streets and hurt our kids. But I want to get your take on another story that certainly appears to make ICE out as real villains. Here's "The New York Times" headline, "ICE Detained Man Who Was Driving His Pregnant Wife to a Hospital." And "The Sacramento Bee," "They were on their way to a hospital to have a baby when ICE took dad away." Sounds pretty disturbing, until we heard from ICE who revealed this about the suspect. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RONALD VITIELLO, ACTING DIRETOR OF ICE: This is far from an innocent victim. This person was wanted by foreign authorities for murder. This was a referral that we got from Interpol for a wanted person. We did surveillance to find out where they lived and when that individual left their home, we made a vehicle stop. None of the ICE officers that made that arrest did anything wrong. It just so happened that they were on their way to a hospital from that location. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: We are also hearing from a source that the request from the Mexican government for ICE's help first came nearly a month ago. Jose, I will let you take the first shot at this. Did ICE do the right thing in that case? ARISTIMUNO: Well look, if you are undocumented person and you committed some serious crimes, you should be deported and Democrats have said that from the beginning. It's a little strange to me, Jason, that there was a press release that came out by ICE saying that they would deport anybody no matter what and then the next day, all of a sudden they say that, oh no, wait, we just found out that the guy that we arrested has a warrant out to get him in Mexico. So do I believe the whole story coming out by the agency? Not totally. But I'm going to say it again. If you are undocumented person who has committed crimes, rapes, murders, what have you, you should be deported. We have been clear from the very beginning on this. CHAFFETZ: do you believe ICE should be abolished? You have Kristin Gillibrand. You have Senator Warren, some real stalwarts in the Democratic Party who are asserting that this is the proper thing to do. Do you advocate getting rid of ICE? ARISTIMUNO: Whether you call it abolishment, whether you call it rebranding, I don't really care. CHAFFETZ: Rebranding? ARISTIMUNO: I think ICE should be doing better things with their time. They should be going after transnational crime organizations. They should be going against money laundering cases. They should not be going after little kids and trying to separate them from their parents. That should not be a part of the agency. CHAFFETZ: Jose, thanks. That's why we need a wall, Brandon, to make sure they don't get here in the first place, because we can't figure out who the bad guys are and the good guys are, and there are a lot of bad guys coming in. Brandon, your quick perspective and then I got a wrap it up. BRANDON JUDD, PRESIDENT, NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL: First off, when people cross the border illegally, I don't know what crimes they have committed in their country. I can only find out the crimes that they've committed in the United States, and that should scare anybody because we don't know who's coming over. If they are doing it legally, we are going to know who they are and we have the right to know who they are. CHAFFETZ: This country legally and lawfully brings in more than a million people, and there are people -- that's who I think we have -- ARISTIMUNO: The majority of those people are good people. CHAFFETZ: But we do it legally and lawfully, and I have a higher moral obligation I think to the people who aren't willing to break the law, who are getting into line, that that is who we should be prioritizing. Jose, I appreciate you coming out because I know you believe wholeheartedly in your position and I appreciate you sharing with us. Brandon, cannot think the good men and women of the Border Patrol and all that they do, and ICE agents as well. Thank you, gentlemen, for being here. Chicago appears to be at a breaking point with a new wave of violence again rocking the windy city over the weekend. Wait until you hear how city officials are responding. Stay tuned. CHAFFETZ: Six killed, more than 50 shot. It was yet another horrifying weekend -- that was just the weekend -- of carnage in Chicago. It's a public safety emergency. But what are we hearing from authorities in the wake of the new wave of violence? More empty rhetoric. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) EDDIE JOHNSON, CHICAGO POLICE SUPERINTENDENT: Let's not forget, the police aren't the one out there doing it. We can only do so much. Now, can we do better? Of course we can. But it's just not about that. Crime is a very complex issue. When you look at resources, educational opportunities, health care, mental health treatment, all of those things play a part in it. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Joining me now to discuss this true American tragedy are Fox News political analyst Gianno Caldwell and criminal defense attorney Anthony Tall. Now, Anthony is joining me here in studio. I want to be direct in what I'm asking you. Democrats have been in charge of Chicago for a long time. I can't remember Republicans enacting their policies in there. So you've got Rahm Emanuel, you have President Obama, the situation is getting bad and worse. What are we supposed to do? ANTHONY TALL, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I think it's going to take a couple of things. I think one thing that we need to focus on is that this is a gang war, as someone who has represented gangs in Los Angeles, almost all gangs, Latino, African-American, white, Asian. You've got to remember that these gang members are looking for some type of support. And financially, Democrats -- you are correct. Democrats have generally been getting a lot of money poured into cities for problems, so obviously it hasn't been invested well. But there are some things that can be done if they are invested into the right areas. CHAFFETZ: So you are not say or suggesting that you need more money, because that is usually with the Democrats say. We need more money. TALL: I think you need role models, and I think you need role models, I think you need education, I think you need jobs. As simple as that may sound, I think that will solve the problem. CHAFFETZ: We have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the history of our nation. The black unemployment rate is at its all-time record low. TALL: Let's look at the black unemployment rate for those gang members, those teens in the inner-city, I'm pretty sure it's not as low. I can respect and understand the fact that the unemployment rate for African- Americans is lower, but not for these guys. These guys need something. I can tell you from my experience personally, they guys are still looking for that opportunity, for a role model, someone to kind of lift them up. CHAFFETZ: I believe in mentors and getting them a good job. Gianno, both of you gentlemen have ties to Chicago. What do you think we need to do in Chicago? GIANNO CALDWELL, FOX NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST: I was born and raised in Chicago, specifically on the southside, and for me, this isn't just a discussion as we are talking about now. We are in a literal state of emergency nationally. The city of Chicago is under siege. And at this particular point, I've been shouting it from the rooftops thankfully on this platform, Fox News Channel, and blessed to have the opportunity to invite, not just invite President Trump to Chicago, but we have to work on solutions. And those solutions come with a number of things. I can agree with Mr. Tall in terms of jobs, that is absolutely necessary. There is a great pastor, scripture fathered to me, Dr. Bill Winston of Chicago. He has a great program where he has guided folks, I think about 360 jobs, connecting with manufacturers. These are people with backgrounds and records. So I can understand that. That is one element of it. Mental health is another element of it. But this law enforcement issue is very big. Let's think about the numbers here. We saw that about seven people were killed, so the new updated number is seven people killed from this past Friday to today. We have over 600 new police officers that hit the streets of Chicago, and the numbers are still as chaotic as they were in the beginning of the month. Just imagine if we invited the National Guard into Chicago. It wouldn't be 600 people there from the National Guard there. So that tells me that we have absolutely no choice. We have to put politics aside and President Trump must come in. Laura Ingraham has been talking about this for a long time. We have to do a lot more for Chicago. This isn't a casual discussion for anyone. There's lives on the line. My brother almost lost his life last year due to the violence in Chicago. A three-year-old was shot this weekend, a three-year-old. CHAFFETZ: We are talking about a city here. These numbers are astronomical and I see failing policies. If you want different results, you're going to have to do different things and probably instill some different people. That why I don't know how you can reelect a guy like Rahm Emanuel. CALDWELL: Rahm Emanuel must go. He's been nothing but a failure. And I think everyone can agree with that. I'm sure Mr. Tall, even as a Democrat, can agree that Rahm Emanuel is a failure that must leave. There's no question about it. CHAFFETZ: What Gianno is advocating is to not only bring Donald Trump in for a visit and a rally or what not -- CALDWELL: Not a visit. We need solutions. We've got to bring something to bear, absolutely. CHAFFETZ: So the question is, would you support bringing in Donald Trump, and would you support, for instance, calling out the National Guard or taking something, a more drastic step? Because if it's truly a gang war, as you say, your rookie cop on the beat isn't necessarily going to be able to take down the MS-13 that Donald Trump has been talking about for a long time. TALL: Here's what I said to Laura Ingraham last week and I'll say it again. I'm all for more police. Who is going to be for more police and even perhaps the National Guard National Guard. CHAFFETZ: We just had an argument and discussion with a guy who wants to abolish ICE. TALL: What I am saying when people are dying at the rate they are in Chicago. But -- CHAFFETZ: That is part of the problem. That's not all of it, but that is part of the problem. TALL: One of the things I'm concerned with, I'm concerned with an environment where you have a minority percent of people committing a high rate of crime and affecting everyone. And then you have a large police force coming in and National Guard coming in, and blanketly Fourth Amendment rights sometimes can get skewed. A guy walking the streets gets ticketed, gets locked in jail, and he comes back out, he's in a gang, and the crime gets worse. I want it to be more strategic, and I understand Mr. Giovanni's point, but what I'm saying is this needs to be -- CALDWELL: Gianno. It's Gianno. Strategy is important. and I can agree with you on that, absolutely we have to have a strategy. That's why I say it's not a law enforcement argument. I just mentioned what Dr. Bill Winston has been doing. He's a church pastor in Chicago. What he's been doing, these are all great elements, but we have to have a very comprehensive plan. And for me, it is not simply inviting President Trump to come to Chicago -- TALL: But when you say that, what you want president Trump to do? You know that there's laws -- CHAFFETZ: Gentlemen, this is a discussion that is so worthy -- I mean, this is a place in crisis, the drug war that is going on, the gang war that is going on. I think Anthony makes some good, valid points. I think is actually a reasonable mind on this and is willing to invite the president to come in, if only the mayor and the city leaders would also take a humble pie a little bit. CALDWELL: State Representative LaShawn Ford has invited him in. State Representative LaShawn Ford, a Democrat, has invited him in, and he's been on this is show talking about having President Trump come in. CHAFFETZ: But we're not going to try to do appeasement. Appeasement is not working. TALL: Right, right. CALDWELL: Not at all. CHAFFETZ: Gentlemen, thank you again for the discussion. Why is Paul Manafort's defense team very happy after a third day of jury deliberations? The new details right after this this. CHAFFETZ: Bob Mueller might be getting nervous. Jurors in Paul Manafort's tax and bank fraud trial finished their third day of deliberations without reaching a verdict. For more, let's bring in Fox News chief national correspondent, Ed Henry, who is sitting right next to me. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Good to see you, Jason. When Paul Manafort entered the courtroom late today, shook his lawyer's hand with a smile. Perhaps a little sign that the former Trump campaign chair, as you suggest, believes the longer this goes the more likely there is an acquittal, which would be a major blow for Special Counsel Mueller, since this is really his first test in court and these charges already have nothing to do with Russia collusion. Despite the optimism in the Manafort camp, though, there are no guarantees for him tonight as he awaits his fate on these charges that could bring up to 305 years in federal prison. There are some legal analysts who are noting that Manafort should not get carried away, because in a case with 18 counts of tax and bank fraud, it may be perfectly normal for the jury to carefully weigh all these complex exhibits and pieces of evidence. Reporters staked out trying to read tea leaves on everything. Today was a fact that sandwiches were brought in for the jury, showing they were digging in for that third full day of deliberations without a verdict. Manafort's legal team is of course watching all this very closely. A jury of six men, six women, any sign at all what might they do. Today they felt good, though, in the Manafort camp about deliberations going into the fourth day tomorrow. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The jury announced that they are going to continue to deliberate starting tomorrow morning at 11:30. Mr. Manafort is very happy to hear that, and he thinks it was a very good day. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: And a source close to that Manafort legal team noted that the nearly 400 exhibits in this case were not sequentially numbered by special counsel Mueller's team. That could slow down the jurors work more. And I can tell you, our team inside the courthouse says that most of the jurors today seem flat and drained. This has been a grueling trial, for them, Jason. CHAFFETZ: It's a grueling trial, and then that they have the threats that are coming after them that they have to have extra security and precautions. HENRY: The judge has dealt with that. There were some news organizations that wanted to get the names of the jurors. That could lead to them being hounded and that's why the judge said no way. CHAFFETZ: Thanks, Ed, appreciate it. Let's bring on two legal eagles to discuss the Manafort trial, former DOJ official Robert Driscoll and former prosecutor John Malcolm. John, I want to start with you. This has been going on. What are we to make based on the fact it's going into yet another day of jury deliberation? JOHN MALCOLM, FORMER PROSECUTOR: I wouldn't be turning cartwheels quite yet if I were the Manafort team. However, it is certainly true the fact that the jury asked for a redefinition of what it means to convict someone beyond a reasonable doubt. And the longer things go on, the more likely it is that somebody is holding up the jury and I don't think you would get an acquittal, but you might get a mistrial. I wouldn't quite get there yet. They have been indicated yet that they are having trouble reaching a verdict. Maybe after tomorrow it might be a little bit more likely that we are headed toward a mistrial. But this is a long try with a lot of documents and 27 witnesses. So the fact that they are deliberating for a third day doesn't totally shock me, but it's certainly true that the longer it goes on, the more likely it seems like they may mis-try the case. CHAFFETZ: Robert, what is your read on this? and is it common to not number sequentially all the documents and evidence that they jury has to go through? Is that abnormal? ROBERT DRISCOLL, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: No, that's not abnormal, because you number a lot of those things pretrial and you end up not using exhibits or you end up putting them in in a different order depending on when the witnesses go. I think that this is -- again, I would be happy if I were the defense only for the following reason. The jury has clearly gotten past the fact that the defense did not have the defendant testify and did not put a defense case at all. I think your fear as always as defense counsel that they're going to read into, oh, my guy didn't testify, we think he's guilty, and they at least didn't reach a conclusion out of the box that that was the case. So they're taking time, and that's good. The risk is, of course, if you are the defense team, you pretty much have to run the table on all 18 of these counts, or else Mr. Manafort is looking at some decent jail time. The problem is if they hang on two counts on convict on 16, that doesn't really do you much good. You need to kind of run the table, which is still a high bar. CHAFFETZ: But there are many out there that feel like this is a bit of a witch hunt. This has absolutely nothing to do with Donald Trump. It has absolutely nothing to do with Russia and the election. I mean, is this a bit of a witch hunt? Are we extending too far? Are we giving a tool to prosecutors? I mean, 305 years -- I want you to listen to Senator Rand Paul had to say about this earlier today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. RAND PAUL, (R) KENTUCKY: I think we've gone crazy on criminalizing everything under the sun, and what happens is it adds up to, like, people who never have physically hurt somebody, and yet he's going to be -- you add up all these things, if he are guilty, you would get six life terms. I think we've gone too far and we need to reassess what we do. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: John, this is a case where they look to this previously, decided not to prosecute, and now all of a sudden you are associated with Donald Trump, and they are prosecute it to the maximum. Does that fit the definition of a witch hunt? MALCOLM: I don't know if it's a witch hunt or not. I think it's very fair to say that the prosecutors wouldn't have focused on Paul Manafort to this extent if he had not been involved in the Trump campaign. I don't think there is any question they are trying to squeeze them to get in to cooperate with the ongoing investigation. By the way, even if he runs the table in this case, he's still got two more trials awaiting him, one of them in less than a month. And these are fairly serious charges, but they are certainly unrelated to anything he was doing as the campaign manager for the three months that he was the campaign manager. CHAFFETZ: This guy I believe is in his 60s and we are talking about three months of association with Donald Trump, it strikes me like the association with the IRS, because of your political thinking we're going to use the power of government to go after you. I have got just 10 seconds. DRISCOLL: I think certainly it's a fair argument to make in the political realm for sure that this case would not have been brought if he wasn't the Trump campaign manager because of how long ago the stuff was. I think narrowly there are probably serious charges that in some cases can be proven, but whether or not they would have been brought is an open question. CHAFFETZ: Gentlemen, thank you. I appreciate it. We look forward to seeing with the conclusion is. Twelve men and women get to make that decision and hopefully soon. A shocking development in the Me Too movement that has Hollywood stunned tonight. Details in a moment. CHAFFETZ: The Me Too movement is being rocked tonight. According to "The New York Times," one of its leaders, actress and filmmaker Asia Argento made her own deal with a young actor who accused her of sexual assault. "The Times" reports Argento arranged a $380,000 settlement with the underage actor who accused Argento of sexually assaulting him back in 2013 when he was just 17 years old. Argento was 37 at the time. Argento was one of the first people to accuse disgraced producer Harvey Weinstein of sexual assault. Joining me for reaction are "Catalina" magazine publisher Cathy Areu, and Kristin Tate, a conservative columnist and the author of the book "How Do I Tax Thee." I appreciate you both being here. It's an important subject, a touchy subject, and it's something that needs full disclosure under discussion. But I want to go to Cathy who is sitting with me here in the studio. What is your read on this? I mean, you have a victim here, but now this movement gets set back and it appears to be so political. CATHY AREU, LIBERAL ANALYST: I don't think it setback at all. It's a movement. It shows that it really, really is a movement. And it's a movement that causes these tough conversations. So women are not just the only ones that are abused, are sexually abused. Men are sexually abused as well. CHAFFETZ: But I don't see the women's groups coming out -- I mean, I see such a selective number of people in certain instances coming out when it's politically convenient for them and their movement, but I don't see them doing it across the board. AREU: Sadly, she's a survivor, but she's also one of the pigs that she talked about her. She said more pigs will be revealed through this movement. She actually is one of those pigs that was revealed through movement. But it doesn't mean it didn't happen to her. But she did it to someone else. CHAFFETZ: Kristin, what is your take on all this? Harvey Weinstein may be this, of the earth and it appears that he is, but what is your take and read on this whole situation? KRISTIN TATE, AUTHOR, "HOW DO I TAX THEE": This certainly does not let Harvey Weinstein off the hook, let's just get that out of the way. But this woman, Asia Argento, is nothing more than another Hollywood hypocrite. She jumped on this Me Too bandwagon and made herself a face of the movement and was simultaneously paying off a minor who she allegedly sexually assaulted. This is a reminder of a major flaw in the Me Too movement. Me Too has the same problem that all leftwing movements have, which is that it develops the sort of moblike mentality that tries to typecast every single victim into a box that leftwing feminists think is appropriate. But in real life, victims come in all ages, all sizes, all political affiliations, all gender. But these left-wingers don't want to acknowledge that. Where were the feminists when conservative victims like Juanita Broaddrick and Paula Jones came forward? They were nowhere to be found because unfortunately a lot of these feminist movements are more about peddling leftwing politics than about really furthering women's rights. So I think this woman really does a disservice to the movement. CHAFFETZ: So Cathy, can you see where conservatives see the double standard -- it only seems when it fits their political narrative, I think Kristin makes a really good point. And as a conservative, it seems like it is so still one- sided. AREU: I think it's a movement. This is a movement, and it's evolving. CHAFFETZ: Is it a political movement? AREU: I don't see it as -- I don't think a leaders see it as a political movement. They've come out and have said, a victim is a victim. CHAFFETZ: Yes, but one of the leaders are a little bit discredited. AREU: She was very vocal, but she wasn't the founder. She was very vocal, and she was a victim. We can't take that away from her. She was a victim, but she was an abuser as well. CHAFFETZ: But you agree with the other parts, men, women, it doesn't matter? AREU: It happens mostly to women, but it does happen to men. So it would be wonderful for the movement to have more men come out so that this movement continues to evolve, and more people will come out. And the victim here has not come out. Her victim has not come out. So men will speak up, maybe. CHAFFETZ: And here is a guy who is underage allegedly involved and engaged in this, evidently hasn't said a word. I'm not using his name, you all haven't been using his name. He was a minor at the time. But I worry that it morphing into this political thing. Kristin, your take on this? TATE: I think it is obviously a political thing. I will say, the Me Too movement has done a lot of good. It's exposed a lot of really horrible men. That's wonderful. But this is an opportunity for us to really examine this movement and think about how we can best serve victims. CHAFFETZ: Thank you. TATE: The best thing we can do for victims is reject the mob mentality and call out all -- CHAFFETZ: A very important topic. I hope we give it more attention. And I thank you both. But finally, tonight, I want to take a moment to honor the life of my fellow Utahan Matthew Burchett. The 42-year-old draper fire battalion chief went to California to help fight the Mendocino Complex fire that has been devastating the state. He was tragically killed in the line of action by a falling tree. Burchett's heroism and life was celebrated back in Utah today when thousands of family members, friends, colleagues, and citizens assembled to give him their final farewell. Burchett leaves behind his wife and seven-year-old son. A donation site to his family has been set up by the Utah Firefighters Emerald Society at Utahfes.org, Utahfes.org. We encourage you to check it out. That is all the time that we have left tonight. I'm Jason Chaffetz in for Laura Ingraham. It's an honor to be able to host this program. I'll be back here tomorrow night as Laura continues her vacation. But I'm turning it over to my favorite person at Fox, Shannon Bream, who starts now. Shannon? Load-Date: August 21, 2018 End of Document Fallout Over Trump Revoking Brennan's Security Clearance; Carter Obtains New Bruce Ohr Notes; Catherine Herridge: Steele Was Briefing Reporters on His Dossier During the Fall of 2016; The Mueller Team Has Obviously No Evidence that will Point Directly to President Trump on the Russia Collusion, so their Option is to Squeeze People like Paul Manafort whose Charges are Nowhere Near to the Election Meddling Issue; New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is Getting a Lot of Heat after Commenting that America was Never a Great Country; Some Analysts Say that It is Clear that Liberals are Trying to Do Everything They Can to Bring Down Trump; A Man who is a Key Figure in ISIS and Al Qaeda has been Arrested in Sacramento, California, Omar Ameen will be Deported back in IRAQ to Face Prosecution for Allegedly Killing a Police Officer back in 2014 Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 16, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7404 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Catherine Herridge, Trace Gallagher, Sebastian Gorka, Geraldo Rivera Guests: Joe diGenova, Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino, Michelle Malkin Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: OK, you're only late three seconds. You tried, though. I've got to give you credit. (LAUGHTER) (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That's fascinating to see if Papadopoulos withdraws that ideal. That's going to be interesting to watch. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST, TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT: Yes. I hope he does. HANNITY: All right. Great show, Tucker. Thank you. All right. Welcome to "Hannity" tonight. Huge, breaking news surrounding Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele. Tonight, Sara Carter has yet again just uncovered more handwritten notes from Ohr about Christopher Steele including a memo detailing Christopher Steele's big concerns about becoming exposed. These details are absolutely stunning. Meanwhile, Catherine Herridge has been working hard today and uncovered other new information, showing that Christopher Steele was leaking the contents of the dirty Russian dossier to gullible reporters before the election, at the request of Fusion GPS, during the fall of 2016. A dossier even Steele did not believe in. I thought it was bad when foreigners try to influence our election. I guess it's OK if your name is Hillary Clinton and you're a Democrat. By the way, can you say Russian collusion? Also, tonight, we will kindly remind everyone on the left that the president of the United States has constitutional, broader and absolute authority to remove the security clearance of any American, and yesterday, after years of serious misconduct, the president rightfully stripped Obama's ex-CIA chief, John Brennan, from these top-secret privileges. Predictably, your mainstream media is now absolutely apoplectic and outraged. Some even claiming that Brennan's right to freedom of speech is infringed. In moments, we will help these people try to understand the difference between a constitutional right and a governmental privilege. Plus, we'll also walk you through a deep dive of every high-ranking former or current official, they all should have their security clearances revoked. We'll give you names and the reason why. And stay tuned for another shining example of the left's ever increasing Trump derangement syndrome and we also have an important update in Paul Manafort's trial of the century, as jury deliberation is about to enter data two and the jury asked the judge, well, they want more of a definition of word is reasonable doubt. They want it redefined. All right. Sit tight, buckle up. Why? We begin with tonight's breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Again tonight, Sara Carter has unearthed one of the most revealing pieces of information in the ongoing saga between Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele. Now, for nearly two weeks, we have been showing you dozens of communications between Ohr, once the fourth highest ranking person at Obama's DOJ, and ex-foreign spy Christopher Steele. Now, these new texts, emails, handwritten notes, have provided evidence of a seedy, unusual relationship between these two, including a coordinated effort to push the contents of Steele's dirty, unverified Russian dossier all throughout the DOJ and the FBI. Just tonight, Sara Carter has uncovered one more handwritten memo from Bruce Ohr reporting a phone conversation that he had with Christopher Steele. In the memo, Ohr writes that Steele is, quote, very concerned about the Comey hearing and afraid they will be exposed. Now, this is on top of the texts that Sara first revealed right here last night, showing that Steele was concerned about whether or not, plural, firewalls will stay intact ahead of Comey's upcoming hearing. So, you have Christopher Steele worried about being exposed, and for good reason. After all, it was Christopher Steele who worked on Hillary Clinton's op research team in 2016, he put together the Clinton bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier, full of Russian, salacious, unverified, uncorroborated, even Steele himself wouldn't stand by it, under oath in Great Britain. He said, well, it may not be true at all. It's raw intelligence. It was Christopher Steele who then used Bruce Ohr to spread all this Russian propaganda throughout the highest levels of our federal government, and to you, the American people. And now, thanks to the reporting also tonight from Catherine Herridge, we know it was Christopher Steele who was leaking the contents of this phony dossier to your gullible news media in this country in the fall of 2016, all at the behest and request of Fusion GPS, who, by the way, was not only being paid. By Hillary Clinton and the DNC, we now know Fusion GPS, oh, remember that Russian lawyer? In the interim is Trump Tower meeting? Oh, yeah, she was being Fusion GPS. And, by the way, don't forget Simpson met with the lawyer both before and after that meeting at Trump Tower, and we know Christopher Steele and Simpson were clearly pushing their Russian lies. They all knew it was total B.S. By the way, that's why Steele wanted the firewall, that's why he is scared to death he will get caught. In the moment, Sara carter and Catherine Herridge will join us for a full report. But, first, let's take a deep dive into President Trump's very important security clearance review and several current and former high-ranking officials. Now, yesterday, the president stripped top-secret access from comrade John Brennan and for good reason. Now, last night as we demonstrated how Brennan clearly violated CIA policy. It says, quote, in the case of former CIA directors, the agency holds that their security clearance and renews it every five years for the rest of their life, however, that requires former CIA directors to behave like current CIA employees. Well, that's not Brennan. Now, he also used his security clearance to validate conspiracy theories that he's regularly pushing and getting paid for on MSNBC, and leaking sensitive information to the general public as it relates to the dossier, through Harry Reid, and to a public letter that's made public to Comey. But the mainstream media, they don't care about the truth or any of these. Some are now actually claiming John Brennan's First Amendment rights are infringed. He is on TV 24/7. What are they talking about? Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a dictatorial exercise of power that should frighten and call on all Republicans to say, Mr. President, you cannot do this. You are trying to inhibit the free speech of people who may be in opposition to you. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To use this kind of punishment to chill speech is a violation of the First Amendment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, this is a striking move toward authoritarianism. You know, this is what dictators do. They shut down the press, they shut down dissent, they jail their opponents, or in this case, they steal their security clearance. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What happened here was a pure authoritarian act from an intemperate president who wanted to punish one of his critics. Nothing more, nothing less. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The White House is threatening him right now. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But they've already taken it away from John Brennan. It doesn't that say to everybody else, shut your mouth? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: This is all dumb, ignorant, and frankly patently absurd, as John Brennan continues to spew his anti- Trump hatred all over conspiracy TV MSNBC. Oh, one other important point, a security clearance, for those of you that have never read the Constitution and claim you're a journalist, it's not a constitutional right. It's a privilege. And according to the U.S. Supreme Court, Navy V. Egan, a U.S. president has the authority to revoke any clearance with or without a stated reason. Currently, the administration is reviewing the status of nine clearances. Now, with the help of our good friend, FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, let's break down what each of the people you see on the screen should be in serious jeopardy of losing their secret access. Tonight, we start with James Clapper. Without a doubt, he should be stripped of his security clearance as soon as humanly possible. He, like Brennan, also misuses his clearance to validate and monetize his hatred of President Trump every time he is on TV. Brennan on conspiracy TV MSNBC, Clapper doing the same things on fake news CNN. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) JAMES CLAPPER, FORMER DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: The value standards, the institutions that I and others spent the major part of our professional lives defending and upholding are under assault by our very own president. I really do wonder whether the Russians have something on him. I really question his ability to -- his fitness to be in his office, and I also am beginning to wonder about his motivation. This past weekend is illustrative of what a great case officer Vladimir Putin is. He knows how to handle an asset and that is what he's doing with the president. (END VIDEO CLIPS) HANNITY: That's not the only reason Clapper should forfeit his clearance. Before his time at fake news CNN, while serving as the director of national intelligence, well, Clapper was accused of leaking sensitive information to his future employer, CNN, the company that employs him now.. Let's not forget when Clapper lied under oath in front of Congress. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. RON WYDEN (D), OREGON: Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? CLAPPER: No, sir. WYDEN: It does not? CLAPPER: Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect, but not wittingly. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, of course, we know the exact opposite is true. The NSA was collecting the data. He knew about it. Next, let's turn to Jimmy Comey. Yes, he -- his access was already gone, but he is still eligible for future access. And as Gregg Jarrett lists, multiple reasons Comey should be permanently losing his eligibility, including his improper conduct in the Clinton investigation, the fact that he stole government property, remember the handwritten memos about the president, remember, he leaked the potentially classified information, those memos to a professor friend to give to "The New York Times." And he also likely misled the FISA court about the Steele dossier that he was supposed to verify and never did, and then he lied about that during his book tour. We'll remind you. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRET BAIER, FOX NEWS HOST, SPECIAL REPORT: You call the dossier unverified, salacious. Why did you use that to the FISA court to ask for surveillance for Carter Page? Not only use it, but you lead with that, a bulk of that FISA application deals with the dossier. Why? JAMES COMEY, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR: Yes. That's not my recollection, Bret, and I don't know that the FISA application has been released. My recollection was, it was part of a broader mosaic of facts that were laid before the FISA judge to obtain a FISA warrant. BAIER: There was a lot more than a dossier in the FISA application? COMEY: My recollection was there was a significant amount of additional material about Page and why there was probable cause to believe he was an agent of a foreign power. And the dossier was part of that but was not all of it or a critical part of it, to my recollection. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Unreal. We now know the dossier did in fact make up the bulk of the application. It's an irrefutable fact at this point. Next up, well, let's look at Peter Strzok. He was also fired for improper conduct. His extreme bias, his willingness to act on that bias, is a reason alone. He should never have a clearance again. We also have his mistress, Lisa Page, the onetime FBI lawyer also complicit as it relates to Stzrok's bias and attempts to, quote, "stop it," meaning stopped him from ever becoming president, and the, of course, the insurance policy. And then there's Andrew McCabe. He was fired for lying. He was also involved in signing off on that fake FISA application that willfully misled FISA court judges -- by the way, and the American people. And we got Sally Yates, also fired for insubordination. She signed off on one of the FISA applications. Susan Rice, she lied all over the place, over and over, about Benghazi, when they knew better. A matter of national security. Really? Knowingly? Lying? Get rid of her clearance. Next, you got Michael Hayden. Gregg Jarrett is calling his security clearance case, quote, questionable. But remember, Hayden is currently employed by CNN as a talking head. And finally, we end on Bruce Ohr. He was once the fourth highest ranking member of the DOJ before being demoted twice. Why? For failing to disclose his wife's employment at Fusion GPS. You can add Christopher Steele to the mix. In fact, Ohr was actively working on in an investigation into Trump-Russia collusion while his wife was being paid by the Clinton campaign to dig up dirt on Trump. Ohr appears also to have filed a false financial disclosure report in order to prevent the government from knowing the true nature of his wife's work. In moments, Gregg Jarrett will join us with more analysis but without a doubt, the Trump administration was right in the case of Brennan and now should revoke all of these clearances as soon as possible. Now we turn to our daily roundup of the most deranged Trump haters. And tonight, we are featuring this absurd comment, yes, once again, conspiracy TV MSNBC. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I like the idea that, you know, you see the examples, that example of like what would be the core that was it was OK for Donald Trump to dissolve media institutions because media institutions are super unpopular. I would like a pollster to ask us this question, how do people on the Republican Party think it would be OK for Donald Trump to dissolve their own grandparents? I'm virtually certain that if it was a Donald Trump-related question, you'd get like 10 percent that would be like Donald Trump has to power to do whatever he wants, including kill my parents. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And today, President Trump gave his own take on the media's Trump derangement syndrome, tweeting, quote: There is nothing that I would want more for our country than true freedom of the press. The fact is that the press is free to write and say anything they want. But much of what it says is fake news, pushing a political agenda, or just plain trying to hurt people. Honesty wins. Maybe that's why you've made is number one and we thank you for it. Expect the media's rhetoric, by the way, to get worse and worse as most important midterms of our life time gets closer. We are only 82 days away. This week, Congressman Keith Ellison, he won the Democratic primary in his race to be the next attorney general of Minnesota, but not without some serious controversy. Ellison's ex-girlfriend, a woman named Karen Monahan, is accusing him of serious domestic abuse, a claim backed up by Monahan's son who took to Facebook and wrote that Ellison put his mother through, quote, pure peer hell, and that he had personally seen hundreds of threatening text messages from Ellison, and even a video of Ellison about two minutes long assaulting his mother, including one instance or he allegedly dragged her by her feet off the bed, all while screaming and cursing at her. Now, these are charges that Ellison vehemently denies, but the DNC is now investigating these claims and Robby Mook of the Clinton campaign saying don't campaign with this guy. We'll keep you posted as the story develops. And, finally tonight, we have another update in the trial of the century. Paul Manafort's 2005 tax case and bankruptcies. Well, the jury, they wrapped up day one of deliberations without reaching a verdict. The jury did, however, submit four questions to Judge Ellis, including one asking him to define or redefine reasonable doubt. That was maybe a good sign for Manafort but I caution you, remember, you can't glean too much from a question of a jury, and over 90 percent of federal cases result in a guilty verdict. The odds are not in Manafort's favor. Keep in mind, as the media storm ramps up on this, this case has nothing -- zero -- to do with, Mr. Mueller, Russia. Zero, Mr. Mueller, to do with collusion. Zero, Mr. Mueller, to do with the 2016 campaign, and zero, Mr. Mueller, to do with Donald Trump. This all comes as the wife of one of Mueller's targets, George Papadopoulos, who was just on the Tucker, is calling for her husband to scrap that plea deal that he made with Mueller and sue the government. We'll let you know if Papadopoulos takes his wife's advice. And, by the way, takes on the aggressive tactics of team Mueller. A lot of ground, a lot of news we're breaking. Joining us now, investigative reporter, FOX News contributor Sara Carter, the author of the now three weeks in a row number one "New York Times" best seller, "The Russian Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett. Judge Pirro was number one, you knocked her off. But she's number two -- GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: And I feel badly about that. HANNITY: I think you are both doing pretty good. JARRETT: She's a friend, I feel badly about that. She's, you know -- HANNITY: No, you don't feel badly about that. You want to be number one. Stop. You are full of it. You are happy you are number one. That's OK. She made number one, too. JARRETT: OK. HANNITY: All right. Sara, let's go back to last night and let's go to the developments that we have today. You know, Steele writing Ohr, hey, any news, we are apprehensive given the scheduled appearance in Congress on Monday, hoping the firewalls will hold -- firewalls plural -- sorry, I have no news. I believe my earlier information is still accurate. I'll let you know immediately if something changes. Well, now, we know that there is a new development tonight, a handwritten message after a call with Ohr and Steele. Ohr writes the message. I'll let you pick it up from there. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, this is what is a fascinating, Sean. I mean, even back when Comey was going to testify in 2017, in March. That was two days before, he talked about the firewall, he hopes these firewalls will fold and that's what Christopher Steele tells Bruce Ohr, and then later, months later, he sends a very important text message saying, you know, I'm very concerned about the Comey hearing -- I mean, he talks to Ohr on the phone. Christopher Steele, I'm concerned about the Comey hearing, I'm afraid that we'll be exposed. And that's because at the time, the Senate Judiciary Committee, Charles Grassley, started to ask a lot of questions. Who is this Christopher Steele? How was he involved with the FBI? What information was he sharing? And at this point, they knew that all the firewalls that they had built up were about to start crumbling down. HANNITY: OK. Now, Gregg, let's get into this. I hope the firewalls plural hold. Two days before Comey is set to testify before Congress. Now we go a step deeper. Very concerned about the Comey hearing, afraid we will be exposed. OK. Firewalls, holding, afraid we are going to be exposed -- I thought the whole Mueller thing was not supposed to have foreign nationals trying to influence our elections. And now, we've got Christopher Steele spreading his lies and propaganda vis-a-vis Fusion GPS to the gullible media, and he knows and testifies under oath, he doesn't even believe his own dossier, the own B.S. her wrote. But yet they are peddling this to the American people. JARRETT: He is not only a foreign national. He is a foreigner on the FBI's bankroll and payroll and on Hillary Clinton's payroll. And Sara's reporting is right. He fears the Senate Intelligence Committee, he fears Comey, he fears Senator Grassley in particular, that he's going to be implicated and busted and exposed for his illegal behavior. I also have here handwritten notes in the handwriting of Bruce Ohr. March 15th, he writes: Special counsel right to question in U.K.? In other words, he doesn't want to be forced to answer questions under oath. On that same day, he says, he urges Bruce Ohr, must protect sources. In other words, him, his the main source of the phony, fabricated dossier. HANNITY: Let me ask both of you. What the hell is wrong with Robert Mueller? Because you have a foreign national, spy, paid for by Clinton, through Fusion GPS, also has Russia as a client, meeting before and after the infamous Trump Tower meeting, he is spreading these lies, he doesn't believe in his own dossier, Russian lies to influence the American people so that they'll vote for the chosen candidate, Hillary, over Donald Trump. There is a Russia conspiracy. There is Russia, you know, there is -- there is Russian influence. There is foreign outsiders. What are -- what is wrong with them but they can't follow the simple things that we have discovered and reported over a year? Sara Carter? CARTER: Sean, exactly what they are trying to accuse the Trump administration of doing is what they were doing all along, and the fact that Robert Mueller has all of this evidence, this is not just circumstantial evidence. This is enormous amount of documented evidence. HANNITY: We have a handwritten note! CARTER: Exactly. Handwritten notes, conversations, testimony. You know they're going to be questioning Bruce Ohr on August 28th, and this was very important because Bruce Ohr holds the key to what happened here, and I would also like to know, who, at the FBI authorized Bruce Ohr to be the conduit for Christopher Steele? Even more importantly than that, when did the FBI no that Christopher Steele was actually leaking information to the media at the behest of Glen Simpson? HANNITY: And he knows it's B.S. He knows it's rationalized, he doesn't believe his own dossier. CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: You know, I've got to be honest. Then you got Mueller and this idiotic Manafort tax fraud issue, how in god's name did that become part of the Russia collusion investigation? As he ignores all of the incontrovertible evidence in your book that you've been reporting, Sara, in your book, Gregg. JARRETT: Yes, you know, Bruce Ohr has a lot to answer for in deposition because he -- HANNITY: So does Mueller. JARRETT: There are 60 pages here. And he'll be asked in detail, what did you mean in this conversation with Christopher Steele, and I think, at the end of the day, we are not only going to find rampant corruption, but that the law was egregiously violated. HANNITY: So disgustingly corrupt. Such a double standard. If our republic is going to survive, our constitutional republic, we better get to the bottom of this. We know there was influence except it was on their s side. We have the evidence, they have nothing. They're doing tax cases from 2005 and wasting our time and money. When we come back -- thank you both. Catherine Herridge, major new information as we continue our news about Bruce Ohr's communications with Christopher Steele in the final months of the 2016 campaign, they were feeding you lies, then we'll get reaction. Joe diGenova, Pam Bondi, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Tonight, FOX News has obtained Bruce Ohr's handwritten notes and emails during the 2016 election season. Our chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge has more on this breaking news -- Catherine. CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CHIEF INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: Sean, a review by FOX News at Bruce Ohr's Justice Department emails and handwritten notes shows he is deeply connected to the Trump dossier, the scandal over alleged government surveillance abuse. During closed-door congressional testimony last year, the cofounder of Fusion GPS, Glen Simpson, the firm behind the dossier, claimed no contact with Ohr until after the 2016 election. But Ohr's work emails conflict with his testimony, showing contact months earlier. Ohr's wife Nellie worked for Fusion GPS, the firm hired by the DNC and Clinton campaign for the Trump dossier based on former British by Christopher Steele's research. After the FBI dropped Steele as a source in November 2016, the Republican- led House Intelligence Committee found that Steele maintained contact using Ohr as a back channel. In December 2016, Ohr's notes also indicated meeting with Glen Simpson in Washington, D.C.'s Chinatown, with Ohr writing, quote: Glen gave me a memory stick. Today, the Justice Department declined to comment on Ohr who is scheduled to give a closed door interview to congressional investigators August 28. Congressman Jim Jordan told FOX the focus is on Ohr's handling of the dossier, and how the dossier rolled into the surveillance warrant for a Trump campaign aide. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. JIM JORDAN (R), OHIO: Bruce Ohr's wife worked for the firm that the Clintons hired to put together the dossier. She's giving it to Bruce Ohr. He's given it to the FBI. It is never supposed to work that way in the United States of America. (END VIDEO CLIP) HERRIDGE: The Ohr documents reviewed by FOX News shed more light on the British spy Christopher Steele. When FBI Director James Comey was fired by President Trump last year, Ohr wrote that Steele, quote, was very concerned about Comey's firing, afraid they will be exposed -- Sean. HANNITY: All right. Catherine, thank you. And joining us now with more reaction, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Joe diGenova. Full disclosure, Joe once did some legal work for me and I would hire him again in a heartbeat and Pam, and he was at my Christmas party. But, you know, here's what we have. We've got Mueller's team looking at a 2005 tax case, nothing to do with the election, Trump, the campaign, nothing, Russia, nothing. But here, we do have Russian lies being fed by Christopher Steele who didn't even believe them, through Fusion GPS, propagandizing and misinforming purposely the American people to steal an election. And then we have Russian lies, literally, you know, handed to our gullible news media by these people, then you've got, you know, Steele, the dossier, Fusion GPS, Brennan, all leaking it, Joe diGenova, all of them. They all know it's total B.S. JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA: Remember, Sean, if Hillary Clinton had won, we would know none of this. And that's why the Trump victory is so important to the rule of law, notwithstanding what the press says about the president. There was a brazen plot to exonerate Hillary Clinton. And if she lost - to frame Donald Trump. Part of that plot involved the conspiracy with Bruce Ohr, Steele, Sally Yates, John Brennan, James Comey, Peter Strozk and other senior FBI and the DOJ Officials who determined that they were going to destroy a president after he was duly elected. It is absolutely essential that notwithstanding anything that Robert Mueller is doing that the attorney general and the deputy attorney general ensure that there is a federal grand jury to investigate all of the things surrounding Ohr and Steele and Yates and everybody else. This is so obvious, a junior lawyer in any prosecutor's office would want this case and run with it. (CROSSTALK) PAM BONDI, FLORIDA STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL: That raises a good point. DIGENOVA: And if the attorney general and the deputy attorney general don't do it, the president should fire them. HANNITY: If Hillary Rodham Clinton pays for these Russian lies, Pam Bondi- - (CROSSTALK) DIGENOVA: Yes. She did. HANNITY: -- and Fusion GPS and Brennan, the CIA director at that time, and Christopher Steele, a foreign national. No, it's not true. Because we know under oath he said I don't know if it's true, maybe it's 50/50. It's raw intelligence. They are peddling this to the American people in a lead up to the election. And Robert Mueller is focused on a tax case from how many years ago? How did it come up? How did this, how do we involve into this when there is real evidence of real Russian paid information to lie to the American people in the election? BONDI: Sean, our entire justice system right now is inverted. This is the kind of the corruption that you see in third world countries. Look at McCabe. They moved him. They were going to let him retire until everyone came out publicly calling for him to be fired so he didn't get his retirement. Look at Strozk, look at -- he fired. Look at Page resigned. Ohr should have been fired yesterday or much earlier now that we know this. It's absurd. And again, the bottom line, the crux of all of this is that FISA warrant that was obtained. And we all keep talking about that because none of this -- the Manafort trial-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: No, the crux of it was the dossier. Because they lied-- (CROSSTALK) POMBI: Right. HANNITY: -- to the FISA court judges and committed a fraud on the court and they said they stood up for it but they never verified it. And then they literally conspired to spread unverified Russian lies that Hillary Clinton paid for to influence the American people. BONDI: And that's why all of this since taking place. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I'm sorry. That's a lot bigger than Paul Manafort's stupid tax case. BONDI: Right. Right. And none of that would be taking place but for a FISA warrant obtained with false information. HANNITY: Where's, you know, if I'm Robert Mueller I would be humiliated. Al this evidence is out there, it's on a tee. Is it that political, is that he hired all these Democrats because he is that much of a hack and he doesn't care about our constitutional republic, Joe? DIGENOVA: I think what has happened here is Bob Mueller has lost his way. And he has been hit in the face with an outrageous set of facts which show that what he is doing is legally irrelevant to what actually happened during the campaign. There was no Russian collusion. There was no communication between the Trump campaign and Russian officials. That's all nonsense and fake and was purposefully put out by the people in the FBI and John Brennan to blow back in the United States to get FISA warrants so they could spy on the Trump campaign. What's happened here now goes so far beyond what the Mueller case and the Manafort case, the Manafort case is a joke. It is an absolute embarrassment to the Department of Justice. It should never have been brought. And you know, I just, what I think happened to Bob Mueller is, he realized that everything he's done is worthless. It means nothing. That the big case is the case to frame the president of the United States. And he won't -- he won't touch it-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And that's why he's done-- DIGENOVA: -- he doesn't give a rip -- absolutely. HANNITY: -- on what happens in the next 18 months to the country. DIGENOVA: Absolutely. HANNITY: Because look at the people he has hired. You hire Andrew Weissmann. You are going to go for broke. You hire the biggest hack in the country. Not many people have the distinction of putting innocent people in jail and losing tens of thousands of jobs. DIGENOVA: Absolutely correct. HANNITY: Yes. DIGENOVA: Absolutely correct. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What about the issue of the security clearances? Pam? BONDI: Gone! Not even a question. It's not even a question. Page, really? Strozk, gone. McCabe, gone. Ohr should have been gone already. All of these people. Not even a close call. That's a privilege. And they have lost that privilege. HANNITY: All right. You guys are phenomenal. Maybe one day, maybe the truth will dawn on them that there is real information. Michelle Malkin, Dan Bongino they react to the despicable vile comment made about Trump supporters, yes, on your so-called conspiracy TV network NBC. And that happened earlier. Also the president blasting New York Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo and his ridiculous statement that America has never been great. Really? Tell that to the heroes of World War II. We'll continue. HANNITY: All right, Democrats. Mainstream media continue to go low -- they say they go high. As we explained on our opening monologue, earlier today over their conspiracy TV MSNBC on liberal Joe, John Heilemann made this outrageous comment. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN HEILEMANN, NATIONAL AFFAIRS ANALYST, MSNBC: I like the idea that, you know, you see as the example, a bad example of like, what would be the core that would say it was OK for Donald Trump to dissolve media institutions because media institution are super unpopular. I would like a pollster test this question. How many people in the Republican Party think it would OK for Donald Trump to dissolve their own grandparents. I'm virtually certain that if it was Donald Trump related question you get like a 10 percent. That would be like, Donald Trump has the power to do everyone, including to kill my parents. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: How many people in the media would be angry at Trump if he cured cancer? Seriously, kill our parents? Then of course you have the liberal governor from the state of New York, Andrew Cuomo saying America never was great. OK, well, tell that to the brave men and women that helped defeat communism which oppressed how many millions and killed how many millions in the former Soviet Union and fascism and Nazism in imperial Japan and on and on, and how America has sacrificed for so many around the world in many different ways. Here with reaction, former Secret Service agent, NRATV contributor, Dan Bongino, the host of Michelle Malkin Investigates, CRTV, it's award winning, Michelle Malkin. You know, it's either we're irredeemable deplorables, Michelle, or we're smelly Wal-Mart people -- I like Wal-Mart. In fact, I love Wal-Mart. Wal- Mart is great. And Target and Costco. I love those stores. Or irredeemable deplorables, clinging to our God, gun, family, religion or we smell and won't shop in Wal-Mart. This is so condescending, disgustingly condescending when they are the sheep that just echo each other in the echo chamber. MICHELLE MALKIN, HOST, CRTV: Yes. And that certainly was proved by this coordinated campaign by all of this groupthink media outlets to attack President Trump for his very legitimate criticism of their political operative propaganda which masquerades as neutral reporting. And what we saw there with John Heilemann, I love it. You know, first I thought who the heck is this guy? I had really never been familiar with his work. He is somebody who masquerades as a documentary filmmaker and he is allowed to get away with comments like this. I mean, he has got contempt for Trump voters and independent thinkers that's coming, it's like oozing out of his pores. And it is that exact kind of elite media condescension that put President Trump in large part in office in the first place. So, please keep going. Please double and triple down on that. Because it worked so well for you, liberal media, in 2016. HANNITY: You know, I'm really proud of the fact even though Fox tried to make me so many years I don't feel good. I never made it to a White House correspondents dinner. Because I didn't want to hang out with these people. I'll hang out, Dan Bongino, with the smelly Wal-Mart people, the irredeemable, deplorables that cling to their bibles, God, gun and religion over them any day. And because they are the ones that actually make the country great and work hard and pay their taxes, play by the rules, obey their laws, raise their children to be good citizens. I prefer them. DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: Yes, Sean, I'm comfortable around the "b" people, right? The busboys, the bartenders and the bouncers. I don't need to know the owner of the bar. I'm with you, man. I grew up working for a living, right? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You are giving away my secret, right? BONGINO: Yes. Hey, listen, you know, my fingernails, you know, they are still dirty from when I was a kid working in the cemetery. But Sean, I read an op-ed piece not that long ago and it really changed me. It said one of the most successful fights we've had public relations-wise in the country was the battle against smoking. And why was that? It's because everybody knew a smoker, right? A parent, brother. They knew how to talk to them. The Democrats have zero interest whatsoever in the media in learning how to talk to people across America who found meaning in the Donald Trump presidency. That is why they will continue to lose as I recommended to my audience over and over again. The new rules are now in effect. The new rules are this. You guys are fighting with brass knuckles. We were fighting with 20-ounce gloves. The cutesy stuff is over. We win, you lose. On life, on taxes, on everything. The new rules are in effect. HANNITY: Michelle, Donald Trump if he's running in November he would win re-election. I don't care who they put up. I don't see him losing. MALKIN: Yes, I do, too. And you know what, you mentioned Andrew Cuomo's comments. And those folks in New York are among the most unrepentant smear merchants of Americans who don't believe the same things they do. And I thank them for their candor in voicing their contempt for American values. Please keep going, Cynthia Nixon, Andrew Cuomo and Alexandria Ocasio- Cortez. I have a great friend in Rob O'Donnell who leads a group called brothers before others. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters party. I don't want them to lose. MALKIN: Yes, yes. And I just want to say about New York. That it is the brave men and women who worked for the police department and the fire department who are most offended by the dripping contempt and the hatred, vile hatred that those New Yorkers have for people who have made America great. HANNITY: By the way, Cuomo once said people like me are not welcome in New York. Last thing. He has his own security detail. He's running against the NRA, which I know you work for, Dan. Interesting. I bet all of his security detail are armed, aren't they? BONGINO: Hey, listen, you know the elites, right. What's good for the goose is not good for the gander. That's how they roll, Sean. We're just the great on Washington then. HANNITY: Sad. All right. Good to see you both. When we come back, new details of a really disturbing story out of California. Authorities just arrested an allege member of ISIS who entered the country as refugee. And we have an update on the extremist compound in New Mexico. Trace Gallagher has a full report. We got reaction. Geraldo Rivera versus Dr. Sebastian Gorka. You don't want to miss a minute, and Rush Limbaugh straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Tonight we are following two other very troubling stories. One, an alleged members of ISIS arrested in California. And there is also an update in the New Mexico compound horror story. Trace Gallagher in the West Coast bureau with the very latest tonight. Trace? TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Sean, when the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force swarmed the Sacramento apartment complex you knew it was a high-level target. Prosecutors say 45-year-old Omar Ameen was a hitman for ISIS and Al-Qaeda, a founding member of Al-Qaeda in Iraq and high-ranking ISIS terrorist. Back in 2012, Ameen fled from Iraq to Turkey where he applied to be a U.S. refugee. He was granted that status in June of 2014. But instead of going directly to the U.S., court records say he went back to Iraq where he shot and killed an Iraqi police officer. Five months later Ameen was living in the U.S. Authorities say his refugee application was riddled with lies. But because many countries don't have extensive document on their citizens a complete background check is nearly impossible. Experts say Omar Ameen is a prime example of why President Trump implemented the travel ban. Ameen will now be extradited back to Iraq to face trial and the possible death penalty. And there is breaking news from that New Mexico compound where 11 children ages 1 to 15 were found living in horrific conditions. Bones found on scene have now been identified as a 3-year-old boy Abdul Wahhaj (Ph). He is the boy the FBI says was part of an exorcism to expel his demons and who died of a seizure after his father refused to give him medicine. The father then allegedly told the other children Abdul would come back as Jesus and tell them who to kill. The five adults at the compound facing child abuse charges were set free by a judge until trial. And now the prosecutor says he is planning to appeal the judge's decision. Sean? HANNITY: All right, Trace. Thank you. Here with reaction, the author of "Why We Fight" Fox News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka, also the author of another bestseller "The Geraldo Show" Fox News correspondent-at-large, Geraldo Rivera. Geraldo, liberals they don't want ICE. They want open borders. They don't want vetting. They don't want a travel ban. If we want to keep our family, our American family safe why doesn't anyone who wants to come and visit, why don't they get vetted? And they have to pay for it for the pleasure of visiting us. And build a border wall with a big door. We do these things and we will be safer. The American people will benefit. Why don't we do the simple things? GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT AT LARGE: Well, Sean, in this case specifically, it seems to me that you had a notorious killer, ISIS, formerly Al-Qaeda fighter, later commander who was well-known in his hometown for planting IEDs, for kidnapping, robbery and for this murder with which he is charged, and on Monday will be hopefully extradited back to Iraq. It seems to me that very little background checks were made. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How about we keep him to jail? RIVERA: They believed him when he said he was not a terrorist. I was ridiculous. HANNITY: Dr. Gorka, why don't we just keep him in jail? SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: Well, this is-- (CROSSTALK) RIVERA: Well, they will try him for murder in Iraq and he will be executed, I believe. GORKA: This is the case study of why the travel ban had to happen. This is why Donald Trump became president. This is why the wall was the first policy platform that he built his campaign on. It's just common sense. The fact, for example, that under the Obama administration you couldn't check somebody's social media accounts to find out if they had Jihadist proclivities, that's how you get the San Bernardino massacre with 14 Americans killed at a Christmas party. The system is broken. It's being fixed right now. But it's just the same as when you controlled who comes in to your house. We have to control who comes in to America. HANNITY: Geraldo, common sense. (CROSSTALK) GORKA: Yes. Common sense, Sean. RIVERA: Common sense but there is a big difference -- there is a big difference between a 45-year-old ISIS battle hardened terrorist murdering f-ing and a 25-year-old apricot picker from Mexico. I mean, please. To equate these is false moral equivalent. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How about we vet everybody? How about we just vet everybody and we control it? RIVERA: I'm OK with that. I'm OK with vetting everybody. I'm OK with that. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I have changed him. GORKA: Sean? HANNITY: I have had profound impact on his thinking, Dr. Gorka. GORKA Congratulations. I knew it would happen. (CROSSTALK) GORKA: Sean, let's look at New Mexico. New Mexico, another utter failure of common sense. Who is the court system meant to protect the most? The vulnerable, the aged, the children. The idea that these people are let out - let out without bail-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. GORKA: -- after a 4-year-old is killed or dies on that compound. It's-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. Guys, I got to go. RIVERA: And Paul Manafort is held pretrial because he is threat to flee. HANNITY: Yes, 23 hours a day. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh when we come back sounding off on John Brennan losing his security clearance. You don't want to miss that. Next. HANNITY: Rush Limbaugh weighing in on John Brennan losing his security clearance. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: Where is it written that John Brennan, above all else, must be granted his security clearance, when this guy is actively engaged in overthrowing a duly constituted elected president? Well, you know the answer to the question, because the left doesn't care about the constitution, it doesn't care about the rule of law, it cares only about its power. None of those are cliches, none of those are exaggerations. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Check mate, Rush Limbaugh. All right. We will always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy- Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Ingraham time. Load-Date: August 17, 2018 End of Document Donald Trump's Conservative Imprint on the Judiciary; Bail Granted by New Mexico Judge to Five Suspected of Training Terrorism to Kids; Al- Qaeda on the Rise Again and Stronger than ISIS in a United Nations Report; Senator Rand Paul's Suggestion to Revoke John Brennan's Security Clearance Months Before It was Carried Out; Southwest Airlines Discontinues Serving Peanuts on Flights; Demonstrators Protest Speech by Congressman Kevin McCarthy in California; Chelsea Clinton's Comments on Roe Versus Wade Compared to President Trump's Comments on Omarosa Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST August 16, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8269 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Jackie Ibanez, Rachel Campos-Duffy, Ellen Ratner Guests: Harmeet Dhillon, Troy Slaten, Aaron Cohen, Rand Paul, Raymond Arroyo, Kevin McCarthy Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, RADIO TALJK SHOW HOST: -- power. And folks, this is -- none of those are cliches, none of those are exaggerations. (END VIDEO CLIP) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS SHOW HOST: Checkmate, Rush Limbaugh. All right, we'll always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Ingraham time. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS INGRAHAM ANGLE SHOW HOST: Good evening from Washington. I'm Laura Ingraham and this is "The Ingraham Angle." We have a huge show for you tonight featuring exclusives with Senator Rand Paul and Congressman Kevin McCarthy. Plus, a special Thursday edition of Friday Follies with Raymond Arroyo. Let's get right to our top story. How to prune the judicial branch? That's the focus of tonight's "Angle." As the media and their Democrat compatriots obsess over Omarosa or Michael Cohen or even John Brennan, President Trump is methodically putting a conservative imprint on the judiciary. And not just on the Supreme Court. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You know, when I got in, we had over 100 federal judges that weren't appointed. I don't know why Obama left that. It was like a big, beautiful present to all of us. It was like the gift from heaven. We were left judges. They are the ones that judge all of your disputes. They judge on what is fair on the environment and what is not fair, where they're going to take your farms and factories away and where they are not. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: In only 20 months, he has nominated and the Senate has confirmed 26 new district court judges, and a record 24 federal appeals court judges, with two more appellate court nominees scheduled for votes this week. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell should get huge plaudits for making Trump's judicial confirmations a priority. Yet, conservatives are still frustrated. But why? Well, because the most notoriously activist and the most reverse circuit court in the nation, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals out west, is still sitting with seven vacancies. Before Trump took office, the Ninth Circuit was totally lopsided, with 18 Democratic and seven Republican appointees. Trump has managed to get one nominee through from Hawaii and another from Idaho is likely to be confirmed later this year, plus, a Seattle attorney was nominated to the court this summer. But still, now more than half of the 13 circuit court vacancies remaining nationwide are out on the Ninth Circuit. And what's more concerning, is that the White House has yet to nominate anyone for the three open seats in California. I can think of two good nominees. The reason for this lies with the time-honored practice known as blue slipping court nominees. That is the courtesy of giving a state two senators an opportunity to say yay or nay to the judicial nomination of a president going forward. And the Democrats, by the way, already accusing the Republicans of messing with this 100-year-old tradition, which is kind of funny considering that in 2013, Democrats themselves chose to go what they call nuclear and ended the ability of opponents to filibuster trial and appellate court nominations. And when Harry Reid, by the way, announced the change, it was all of course, making perfect sense. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HARRY REID, FORMER UNITED STATES SENATOR: The rule of change will make cloture for all nominations, other than the Supreme Court, a majority threshold vote. Yes or no. The senate is a living thing and to survive, it must change as it has over the history of this great country. To the average American, adapting the rules to make the Senate work again is just common sense. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Just common sense, OK. Well, it's time for senate Republicans to use their own common sense to bust the current standoff with California senators, Kamala Harris and Dianne Feinstein. As all these seats sit empty on the Ninth Circuit, it continues on its progressive merry way. So, is it time to formally ditch the slip? The argument against doing that after all could be that this could all come back to bite Republicans big time when a Democrat wins the White House down the road. And I get that, I understand it, but given how the Ninth Circuit has stymied key elements of the president's agenda, I think we are kind of pass the point of worrying about Senate tradition. The Ninth Circuit is completely out of control, from reversing the presidents travel ban last year to blocking Trump on sanctuary cities, it's essentially been acting like an extension of the anti-Trump resistance. There is another option, though, that is short of killing the blue slip altogether, and it would just be to minimize its effect, in other words, the views of the home states senators are still a factor in selecting judicial nominees but they are not the equivalent of an automatic veto over any presidents pick. But we need to face facts. Even if the president fills all the open seats with terrific constitutional conservatives, the makeup of that Ninth Circuit runaway court will still be 16 Democrat appointees and 13 Republican nominees. But certainly, there would be a better chance to have balance than any random three-judge panel, right? The odds are better that way. And that wouldn't just be better by the way, for the president or his agenda. It would be better for the rule of law, the constitution, and the country. And that's "The Angle." And it's not just the federal judges, the latest example in that horrifying case out of New Mexico involving a remote compound, child abuse, and radical Islamic extremists. Astoundingly, Judge Sarah Backus is granting bail to five adults in the abuse case, claiming prosecutors failed to identify any specific threat to the community. Now, that's the spite (ph) prosecutors alleging that these guys were training kids to use all those firearms to carry out terror attacks at schools. How is this possible? Joining us now with reaction is Attorney Harmeet Dhillon who works on these types of cases along with constitutional law attorney Troy Slaten. Harmeet, let's start with you because I think the regular folks watching this cannot believe their ears, where we had the authorities who visited this compound, said that , you know -- the first police officer on the scene, said he had never seen conditions like this. It was so sad, so depraved, kids were starving, and of course, a body of a child found on that compound, as well. So now, four of the defendants have $20,000 bail set? What? HARMEET DHILLON, RNC NATIONAL COMMITTEEWOMAN: It isn't even bail, Laura. So, it's worse than that. It's a $20,000 signature bond, meaning that if they don't show up for their court dates, they have to promise to pay the government $20,000, which is obviously ridiculous. If you have somebody who is potentially going to be put away for life on terror charges, a $20,000 promise to pay is not a deterrent for them to flee or commit more crimes. This is as a result of New Mexico's very liberal bail law. They did bail reform in 2016 and the chief justice of the -- one of the justices of the Supreme Court added some additional conditions to that so that at the very early stage, the prosecutors have to show why "clear and convincing evidence" that the person is either a flight risk or a danger to the community. Now, let's review the evidence here. Here, as you said, you have 11 children who are starving and being trained, according to prosecutors, to commit crimes including terror crimes, rapid recharging of guns, and are being abused. You have a dead child, you have numerous weapons, you have hundreds of feet of tunnel under this compound, and you have somebody who is being held on a kidnapping charge in another jurisdiction. So, if this isn't clear and convincing evidence that a, there's a flight risk, and b, there is a potential danger to the community, I don't know what is. And the judge went out of her way to say to the prosecutors that, oh well, this seems like an unconventional lifestyle that you are describing here. INGRAHAM: What?! DHILLON: But I don't really see the danger to the community. I mean, it's crazy. INGRAHAM: Lifestyle? DHILLON: Anybody watching this knows that that's nonsense. "Unconventional lifestyle" from the judge on Monday. That's right. INGRAHAM: Troy, this is what the judge actually said when they were discussing this bail issue in court. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARAH BACKUS, DISTRICT COURT JUDGE: The state alleges that there was a big plan, but the state hasn't shown, to my satisfaction, by referring to this new evidence what in fact that plan was. There is no reason for me to believe that these defendants have in the past show themselves to be a danger to the community. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So Troy, again, to non-legal people out there, just regular people watching this tonight. They see a situation where you had five adults, 11 children kept and depraved, abusive conditions, one dead child, and they just have to sign on the dotted line that they will pay the $20,000 when they come back for their hearing. How is this good for the community? TROY SLATEN, CONSTITUTIONAL LAW ATTORNEY: Laura, the judge here is just following the law. The Eighth Amendment to the United States constitution, which we don't get to talk a lot about outside of law school classrooms, is very clear. The government can't impose excessive bail. An excessive bail is anything more than what's required to make sure that somebody comes to court. So the court here imposed not only the $20,000 but electronic monitoring. They have to check in with their lawyers, and there are many other less restricted means. INGRAHAM: Once a week, Troy. One time a week. We got a dead child -- SLATEN: That's true. INGRAHAM: -- starving children. There would have been more dead children undoubtedly had authorities not arrived on the scene, and they don't have to fork over the 20K each, Troy -- SLATEN: Laura, all the kids -- INGRAHAM: -- correct? (Inaudible) Harmeet right here, correct? DHILLON: That's right. That's right. It's a signature law. It's only 20K if they don't show up. INGRAHAM: Do the defendants have to pay the money? SLATEN: Not right now. No -- INGRAHAM: Hello? Thank you. Thank you. SLATEN: -- they absolutely do not. INGRAHAM: I'm freaking out right now. I'm sorry, but it's an outrage if they don't have to pay the money. Why do we get across (ph), four adults, five adults total, but four adults who treated children this way, with showing up for their hearing, where they had tunnels under their compound. This judge is way off the rails. I know it's her call but she's way off the rails on this one. SLATEN: Laura, one of them has been taken into ICE custody, the other is being held on an out-of-state warrant. All the kids, thankfully, are in protective custody, and all the weapons have been taken. So, there is no indication that they're a flight risk or that they are going to flee the jurisdiction. The government wasn't able to show in the court hearing that they're not going to show up for their court date. INGRAHAM: Troy is right, that the prosecutor, according to the judge, Harmeet, said, he didn't give me the clear and convincing evidence that these people at present pose a danger to the community. And the constitutional amendment in New Mexico that, you know, is part of the state constitution now, says look, that's an option, that you have to show clear and convincing evidence. And apparently, the prosecutors, according to the judge, didn't do that. Now, this judge has a bit of a reputation. There was another case where people were up in arms because of a -- in a low bail set involving another individual. We'll show his picture right here. Another individual and it was another case of abuse and the bail seemed low, $10,000, and people were not happy about that. But Harmeet, you know, Troy's point is, took the guns, took the -- I guess the ammunition. Kids are safe, I guess, what's the big deal? DHILLON: Yeah, what's the big deal, Laura? I mean, it's res ipsa loquitur. They taught that in the law school, meaning that the things speak for itself. You got a dead kid. You got terrorist training camp going on here. There is no threat to the public? I mean, that is ridiculous. And you know, the prosecution included in their evidence to the judge a handwritten terrorist manifesto about what they wanted to do and, you know, of course, the prosecutor wasn't able to bring these children into court to testify themselves because, a, they are small children, b, they're, you know, probably in a hospital recovering from this abuse. So, you know, this judge went on to make some gratuitous comments. She accused the prosecutors of playing on religious prejudice because the prosecutors mentioned in the court that these are Muslim rituals that were being done that torture these children leading to the death of one of them. And the judge said oh, well, I can't take their religion into consideration. Nobody was asking her to take their religion into consideration. It's the specific acts of the fact. INGRAHAM: It's the specific criminals. DHILLON: Yes. And on top of that, yes, thank god, one of these people is in ICE custody and one of them is going to be handed over to Georgia on child kidnapping charges. But if it were up to this judge, she granted very minimal conditions to all five of them, and that is an outrage and that is a repeat pattern by this judge. A Democrat who came from San Francisco, my hometown, unfortunately, that is where she learned these practices. INGRAHAM: Susana Martinez put up a statement on her Facebook page. She said, "This as a result of liberal pretrial release rules put in place by the New Mexico Supreme Court -- judicial activism at its worst -- and something I have spoken about. It's time to put a stop to the revolving door in our justice system and keep dangerous criminals in jail where they belong." Troy, do you think because of the public outrage, this judge, could she reverse her decision? I'm not saying you want her to, but could she? SLATEN: Well, I think a judge, if there is any change in circumstances or if she was challenged on appeal, certainly could. And look, I'm not saying that what these people are accused of is anything less than horrific. And if they are found guilty, they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But the issue here is whether they should be given reasonable bail, and when people are given high bail, that tends to disproportionately hurt lower income people. And wealthy people shouldn't be allowed to just get out on bail because they have more money. INGRAHAM: Oh, my gosh. DHILLON: They are being charged no bail, Troy. They are being charged zero bail. They are being charged a signature and that is the outrage. And by the way, Laura, this trend is going on all over the country. SLATEN: Yes, but there are bail conditions. They are being electronically monitored. DHILLON: All over the country this is happening now. INGRAHAM: Yeah, it is happening all over the country, but let me tell you, if the -- a lot of the illegal immigrants have the bracelets on, the electronic monitoring bracelet, ankle bracelets, they cut them off. It's not like that's to be (inaudible). DHILLON: Of course they do. INGRAHAM: -- every week. So what? I mean, it's no big deal. But we want to have a longer conversation on another night with you guys about this, the bail reform issue. It's something a lot of people aren't really aware of. It's fascinating and you are both great advocates. So, thank you so much for joining us. SLATEN: Thank you, Laura. INGRAHAM: And, I have a question. Is Al-Qaeda about to make a major comeback? A disturbing new report from the U.N. finds the terror group showing surprising levels of resilience and is now stronger than ISIS in places like Somalia, Yemen, and South Asia. For more, we are joined by counter terror veteran Aaron Cohen. Aaron, I read this report and I just read a report about what was happening in Iraq and in Afghanistan, specifically in Afghanistan, where our forces and the Afghan forces are losing some ground against the Taliban, and now this. What do you know and what do we need to know as Americans? AARON COHEN, COUNTER-TERRORSIM EXPERT: Well, first of all, Osama bin Laden's son, Hamza bin Laden, who is 29-years-old, and you know, sees himself as sort of the next young gun on the street. He's publicly come out and taken over for his dead father and wants to rekindle the Al-Qaeda brand. And as we know with terrorism over the years in I0srael, this is a very large psychological war and the fact, you know, that is run by fear. And so what we are seeing here is the rekindling of Al-Qaeda 2.0, just starting to resurface on a tactical level. I think that Al-Qaeda has had a significant amount of time since 2011 since Osama bin Laden was killed. All of the P.R. and all other military operations have shifted to ISIS primarily in Iraq and in Syria. And after President Trump came into power, he was extremely aggressive by unleashing our forces, not just our Special Ops, but larger quantities of conventional light infantry, to really flush out those pockets. So, it's given Al-Qaeda, Laura, a pretty significant amount of time to regroup. But from what I understand, like with any other terror group that we have taken down in Israel or have smashed in Israel, what happens is you have pieces of these organizations which smashes into hundreds, if not thousands of small pieces and they are able to operate and what they are doing is they are going dark. And that means that they are now operating in what I have called nomad terror, which is essentially they can function independently from central leadership, any type of real organization, and they can go online and they can train and recruit on this dark web and begin to carry out attacks, not unlike we saw in London just the other day. INGRAHAM: Right. Bingo. And when you hear a story like you just heard in the United States with this New Mexico compound, is bizarre scenario with the subjugation of children and the seeming jihadist training of the children to go into schools, what does that tell you? COHEN: Well, the threat is real and what you have here is you have incubation happening here within this country, in this case, which is being handled -- it's kind of disturbing what is happening with this judge and this bail that has been set or whatever the lax restrictions have been set on the fact that they found essentially a terrorist training ground to train children how to commit acts of terror, which is kind of blowing my mind that this is being treated as the most harsh type of terror investigation and soften it later. Might come hard on this thing and then back off if you find out that's not what it supposed to be. But it sounds like its terror. It sounds like it's inbred. It sounds like it has sporadic nomad terror camp. And so it's very disturbing and it is something that I almost feel like we're going to see more of because it is that easy to set up. And you've got kids who are in hospitals being hidden in witness production. I mean, this is very real. And I think it needs to be treated very real and I think Hamza bin Laden is very real and I think that ISIS being taken down is also significant because Al-Qaeda just went boom and so, all of it needs to be treated like terrorism. INGRAHAM: Yes, so Aaron, before we let you go, is it avenging his father's death? Is that the primary motivation do you think of Hamza or is it just a larger ideological religious, you know, struggle against Christianity in the western world? COHEN: I think that's a good question. I think it's a combination of the two. It don't come down in a middle on that answer, but I really do believe that it's a combination of, you know, this theocracy, this Islamic-driven theocracy versus western Democratic values combined with the perfect incubator, which is a Hamza bin Laden. He just married the, I believe it was the daughter of Mohammed Atta, who flew a plane into one of the towers on 9/11. INGRAHAM: Well, talk about a nightmare marriage. Oh, my, gosh. COHEN: So what they are trying to do is -- yeah, nightmare marriage, yes, raised in hell and here it is, you know, being pretty correct. And so I think that these terror networks are using Hamza and his -- INGRAHAM: Celebrity. COHEN: -- and his spark to try and rekindle this (inaudible). And I think it's all playing itself off. And I think the CIA and the NSA need to watch this really, really closely. And, you know, thank god President Trump is around to get aggressive as needed. INGRAHAM: Aaron, thank you so much. We really appreciate it. Senator Rand Paul was one of the first voices calling for it and now John Brennan's security clearance has been revoked. So did Senator Paul convinced President Trump to do it? Was he the one? Well, the senator joins us exclusively, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) CARL BERNSTEIN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: This is what dictators do. This is a dictatorial exercise of power that should frighten and call on all Republicans to say, Mr. President, you cannot do this. JOHN HEILEMANN, NBC NEWS NATIONAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: This has huge chilling effect for national security officials, the notion is unprecedented. The notion of an enemy's list. REP. JOAQUIN CASTRO (D), TEXAS: It's a clear abuse of power and it's a mark of an authoritarian dictator really, rather than a Democratically elected president of the United States. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Well that's all very subtle, isn't it? Kentucky Senator Rand Paul made a bold suggestion to President Trump late last month, strip former CIA director John Brennan of his security clearance, along with many other former government officials acting irresponsibly. And of course, President Trump is now doing exactly that. So does Senator Paul deserver some kudos here? The senator joins us now exclusively with reaction and details on his recent trip to Russia. Senator, great to see you. You came back to some pretty powerful news. Were you the first one to suggest this to the president and did you talk to him about this since you returned? SEN. RAND PAUL (R), KENTUCKY: I'm going to talk to him about it this weekend so, about the trip to Russia and also John Brennan. I've been calling for a review of the security clearances of a lot of folks, you know, Peter Strzok and others for months and months and months. I wrote a letter to the FBI director last January does he still have clearance. But with John Brennan, I think what the left is ignoring is that I think he should have had his clearance revoked for cause. You know, he leaked information that came out in the media, that we had a double agent in Yemen -- remember when we were going after the underwear bomber? There still is a bomb maker in Yemen. He leaked that his media. Two people, Richard Clarke, who had a security clearance, and then he went on television saying oh, not to worry, we have a double agent in Yemen. The double agent was still there and he put that agent's life at risk. John Brennan should have been fired for that alone. INGRAHAM: And then the spying on the Senate committee, the Dianne Feinstein, like you guys are looking into my staff's computers. He denies it. They get the results of the -- from the documents, turns out they were totally spying. PAUL: There is also a question of whether he lied to the House Intelligence committee when he said he did not know who paid for the fake Trump dossier. He said, I didn't know, so there are two possibilities. He's either lying or he's incompetent because if he's in charge of the CIA and they are using this fake dossier and no one bothered to ask who paid for it -- INGRAHAM: And didn't he say he didn't know about it initially? PAUL: I think he said he didn't know it was paid for by -- INGRAHAM: Oh, well, it's like kind of fuzzy. PAUL: Yes. So the head of the CIA doesn't know that this fake dossier was paid for by the Clinton campaign, so that is either incompetent or he's lying, one of the two. INGRAHAM: Senator, he was pressed on this about Brennan yesterday, about the security clearance, Brennan was pressed on it yesterday and then he was pressed on well, could it be that the president is answering to a third party, not just to the American voters. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: I don't know. He is the one who has to account for those previous actions and I don't know what he may be concerned about in terms of what might be divulged as part of this investigation. I find his attitude and behavior toward Vladimir Putin and the Russians very, very puzzling. I don't know what it is that is behind that. I certainly don't know all the things that Mr. Trump has been involved in over the years, and I do not pretend to have that knowledge. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Yeah, and today, all those I don't knows, senator, but today in the "The New York Times," he writes in part at the end, "Mr. Trump's claims of no collusion are, in a word, hogwash" -- but he fairly (ph) said he doesn't know, but then he claims of no collusion are hogwash. The man is unhinged. I mean, that's a bold statement there. Unhinged. PAUL: Well the thing is that, you know, you look at the -- a guy who called the president treasonous. So, the commander-in-chief he calls treasonous and apparently that would be advocating for the death penalty for the president, and yet he still wants access to the nation's secret? Crazy. INGRAHAM: So, Russia, you just came back from your trip to the former Soviet Union. You met, I know, top government officials, both from the -- what's equivalent of their legislator. What can you tell the American people tonight about the state of U.S.-Russian relations under President Trump? PAUL: I think from both sides that our relations are at the worst they have been since the height of the Cold War, and this is a real tragedy. One of the great things that Ronald Reagan did was sitting down with Gorbachev. And so one of the highlights for me is I got to sit down for an hour with former President Gorbachev and talk about his recollections with Ronald Reagan. But also talk about how both sides, both Ronald Reagan and Gorbachev had to defy the orthodoxy of their country to sit down and come to agreements. And they didn't, you know, call each other names, they didn't say murderous thug and talk about all the terrible things, some of which did happen, throughout a long period of time. And so the union (ph), they sat down and said, let's try to make it better. And they did. INGRAHAM: Are some of these government officials going to be coming to the United States? I know you had extended an invitation with some thought of Trump meeting with Putin, I guess that's off the table. I mean, there's a lot on the table, off the table. I think people are very confused about this. PAUL: They have two houses in their parliament, one called the federation, which is like our Senate, their upper body and then they the Duma, which is the lower body. They have both agreed to come to Washington in the fall for further meetings. That is good thing. The downside is, the chairman of each of the committees is banned from coming to the United States because of sanctions. So one of the things I'm going to ask the president, I'm going to talk to the president's weekend, is that I'm going to say why don't we take people off the list -- INGRAHAM: At least temporarily. PAUL: -- who are in the legislature. INGRAHAM: Yes, or at least temporarily so they can come and speak. PAUL: Exactly. INGRAHAM: Senator Paul, we really appreciate you coming in tonight and thank you for giving the update on the trip. Up next, this is a switch, airplane peanuts (ph), emotional support, miniature horses? And a new straw that you may not want to try. All that in a special edition of "Thursday Follies" with Arroyo next. JACKIE IBANEZ, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Good evening, and live from America's news headquarters, I'm Jackie Ibanez in New York. From Harlem to Hollywood, tributes are pouring in tonight for the queen of soul, Aretha Franklin, who lost her battle today with cancer. This was the scene outside New York's famed Apollo Theater, a very popular venue for the soul singer during her long career. Hundreds of fans gathered there throughout the day to give Franklin her due respect. And in Hollywood, Aretha's star on the walk of fame was adorned with flowers and mementos from her many admirers. Aretha Franklin was 76. Funeral arrangements not yet known. And the Pentagon reports that the Veterans Day military parade ordered up President Trump won't happen in 2018. A Defense Department spokesman says the military and the White House have decided to wait until next year. This follows a report that the parade would have cost about $92 million. I'm Jackie Ibanez. Now back to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. Have a great night. INGRAHAM: It's time for a special early edition of -- (MUSIC) INGRAHAM: There is just so much good stuff we have to get to. We have to do "Friday Follies" on a Thursday. We didn't have time to do a new graphic, all right, give us a break. First up, one of the great traditions of flying is no more, at least on one airline, my favorite airline. You're telling me this. To explain, we're joined by "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series, FOX News contributor Raymond Arroyo. Raymond, so Southwest Airlines has taken away our peanuts? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: They have taken away our peanuts. INGRAHAM: What? ARROYO: It is awful. I was flying at the top of August -- I collect those things. I take them home to the kids. INGRAHAM: Are you the same person who takes the shampoo and conditioner from the hotel? ARROYO: No. But I do take those honey roasted peanuts I love. I get on the plane and the Southwest attendant tells me, we are not serving those anymore. You can have pretzels or you can have these veggie chips. I said I don't want your chips. They put out a statement. I'm going to read it to you. "Peanuts forever will be part of Southwest's history and DNA. However, to ensure the best onboard experience for everyone," you can put up the full statement -- there it is, "especially for customers with peanut related allergies, we have made the difficult decision to discontinue serving peanuts on all flights beginning August 1st." And they say they want a peanut allergy sufferers to feel safe and welcome on Southwest. What about me? I have an animal allergy, I'm allergic to cats and dogs. You know only one percent of Americans are allergic to peanuts? Thirty percent of us are allergic to cats and dogs, and the aisles are choked with service animals, emotional support animals. There is an explosion. INGRAHAM: First of all, the peanut allergies are very serious, Raymond Arroyo, so we have to be very mindful of that. I have a question. What are peanut-related allergies? I've heard of peanut, but what are the related allergies? ARROYO: If there's dust in the air, what are they going to do. I don't know what happens. But I do what happens when I get on board and the lady has got the knitted little carry on and there is a little cat in there. I see those little devil eyes looking up at me. My sinuses do this. INGRAHAM: You are not a cat person. I love cats. Not really. ARROYO: I pulled the data for you -- 700 service animals fly every day, 281,000 service animals a year on most carriers, 751,000 emotional support animals. INGRAHAM: Wait a second. ARROYO: This is a newfangled thing, and I really think it is so people can get around the airfares for their pets. INGRAHAM: Wait a second. Did that horse make it on the plane? I have seen a trend in people bringing on -- I'm not talking about the little tiny dogs. I'm talking about the big, massive type dogs. ARROYO: I had an Irish wolfhound literally two rows in front of me. It is like a man in the row. I don't know how you can let that beast -- it's a small horse in the row. INGRAHAM: So can people treat the dogs the like an ottoman? ARROYO: They have to. INGRAHAM: There aren't footrests on planes anymore. So that's a good ottoman. ARROYO: Do you remember Dexter? This was the emotional support peacock a woman tried to get on United Airlines earlier this year? This here is video of it. She actually try to get the peacock on board. United Airlines told her in January, no. And Laura, we're going to have to have a quick moment of silence because Dexter, we learned this week, has died. That is our moment of silence. I think what I need is an emotional support dog or cat catcher to spare my allergies so I feel safe and welcome. INGRAHAM: So the peanut allergy people, they are protected, but the -- ARROYO: The 30 percent of Americans who are pet allergy suffers -- INGRAHAM: They just have to -- ARROYO: You've got to eat veggie chips and suffer. INGRAHAM: This is the Instagram post about Dexter. We have to give Dexter -- ARROYO: No, no, don't worry about Dexter. That's so boring. INGRAHAM: The owner -- he is survived by his sisters, Ava, pictured here, and Zsa Zsa, and by all humans who loved him. Dexter, you will forever be missed and remembered with fondness and love. That's sad. Have you ever heard a peacock mate? Do you know the mating sounds of peacocks? ARROYO: I don't want anything to do with peacocks. The best thing about Dexter is now his feathers can be displayed in the foyer. Go ahead. INGRAHAM: OK, you have an update on the straw crusade sweeping the country. I had plastic straws myself. I think paper is fine. Some celebrities have made a video, of course, warning of the dire impacts of plastic straws on whales and sea life. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And 500 million plastic straws are used in this country -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- every single day. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And many end up in the ocean, polluting water and killing sea life. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If we don't act now by 2050, they will be more plastic in the ocean than fish. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Do you know where that number comes from, the 500 million number? A little boy named Milo Cress. He was a nine-year-old in 2011, he did a science project. He called around all the straw manufacturers, they gave him an estimate. One of them said, 500 million or so. He took it. That is what they ran with. Here he is on CNN. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MILO CRESS: Every straw we use, every piece of plastic, will be here on earth somewhere on earth, even when my grandchildren are born. I started the project to reduce the number of straws that go into our landfills every day. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Can you imagine this? INGRAHAM: He's adorable. ARROYO: Now that little adorable kid has managed to outlaw plastic straws in Malibu, Seattle, Santa Barbara, they'll send you to jail for it. INGRAHAM: Lots of rich people. ARROYO: I was just in Malibu and they are now introducing pasta straws. INGRAHAM: What? ARROYO: They had pasta noodles as straws stuck in the water. INGRAHAM: That sounds like a good idea to me. What's wrong with that? ARROYO: Laura, your water taste like day-old rigatoni. That is a problem with it. It's really bad. INGRAHAM: There it is. ARROYO: I took that picture. That's an actual pasta straw. It gets soggy. But it does -- INGRAHAM: I hate plastic all over the beaches, it's horrible for the marine life. Don't use as much. We got rid of plastic water bottles at my house. ARROYO: I have an idea you're going to like. I think we need beef jerky straws which we can bring on planes. We'll drink out of those and then give them to all the service and emotional support animals. INGRAHAM: Beef flavored water would be my idea. ARROYO: I don't want any foodstuff. What about people with wheat allergies, beef allergies? They should be considered. INGRAHAM: Raymond Arroyo, the malcontent flyer here on "The Ingraham Angle." Thanks so much, Raymond. We have a lot more to get you right after this. INGRAHAM: House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy faced off with leftwing immigration activists earlier this week. The California congressman was delivering remarks at a public policy event in Sacramento when things turned pretty ugly. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (CHANTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Congressman McCarthy joins us now with his reaction. Was it amore, was it love? I couldn't hear all the shouts, but it looked like it was pretty raucous. What went down there? REP. KEVIN MCCARTHY, (R) HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER: We were giving a speech, and I was giving the contrast between what we have been able to accomplish with President Trump across this nation with the tax cut and others compared to what is happening in California, from raising taxes, they want sanctuary states, they want to abolish ICE. And that was one of the two protests that has happened with me. What they were chanting was if you don't let me dream, we won't to let you sleep. It sounds a little like what Maxine Waters was telling them to do. INGRAHAM: Congressman McCarthy, I think this is where the left always goes off the rails. They go too far of the extreme. People who are in the country, whether they're under DACA or they're here illegally, people don't like to think they're coming here to tell us what to do. They may get amnesty. They may not get ultimate, who knows, but it's a privilege to be an American citizen. It's a privilege to be a permanent resident. And in California, your state has been significantly altered in its workforce, some of it necessary for agriculture, but it's transformed over the years from left-wing leadership on this issue. MCCARTHY: They've gone beyond. They tried to make the state a sanctuary state, which I said I did not support. We are building the wall, we're building it in California, what we have been able to move within the federal government. But what else they were protesting, one lady held a sign, repeal Trump's tax cuts. INGRAHAM: What? MCCARTHY: Yes, she held the sign up. (LAUGHTER) MCCARTHY: When you look at what is going on in California, this is the fear that I have with what's coming for with November. They want to impeach this president, they want to abolish ICE. And remember in California what the state Senate did. They passed single payer government run health care where you could not get health care from your employer. It would cost twice as much money as all of what California brings in in their revenue. This is what they call Medicare for all front, government run health care, that will actually end Medicare as we know it, more than 100 Democrats in Congress. INGRAHAM: It's all free. It's all free. They think everything is free, the money grows on trees, as my mother used to say, everything is free. And that is what the new generation, that is why it is incumbent upon Republicans, and I've told the White House this -- I think the president needs to have a real presence in California. I think it is good that you are up there speaking. The protesters are going to come, I wouldn't worry about it. You get a lot of respect, congressman, because you put yourself out there day in and day out in your district, and other congressmen and women should not be shrinking from doing town hall events. No way. Go out and preach the gospel of economic growth. I think is good for all people. By the way, speaking of immigration, Congressman, I've got to ask you about this wild story from your home state, I think it was officials just arrested this guy, Omar Ameen, a suspected ISIS member. He's accused of killing an Iraqi police officer in Sacramento but he came to the United States as a refugee, and he was even able to apply for a green card. Isn't this exactly why the president wanted an aggressive travel ban and aggressive vetting? Of course, we've heard that this constant refrain of a warning from the left. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. CORY BOOKER, (D) NEW JERSEY: But we still know the root of this poisonous tree was his attempt to ban Muslims. And remember, this is actually not going to make us safer. REP. KEITH ELLISON, (D) MINNESOTA: They are all Muslim countries, majority, and they are banned because of that. SEN. ANGUS KING, (I) MAINE: It serves no purpose, and in fact, I would argue, it is entirely negative in terms of national security. It potentially could cut off areas of intelligence that can help us protect ourselves from violent extremism. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Congressman, what can you tell us about this case, because I know our viewers are very concerned about this? MCCARTHY: They should be very concerned. Contrast this. Here I am yesterday, giving a speech supporting the president and our ability to protect this border. They are protesting me there, and the federal government is arresting Omar Ameen, who came to the country, was a member of ISIS and Al Qaeda. He got approval to come to America but he didn't come directly here. He first then went to Iraq, killed the police officer, and three months later comes to America. And why does he come to California? Because they advertise that they want to be a sanctuary state. He's sitting in Sacramento. The feds are able to arrest him, the FBI has been looking at him since I think 2016. This is why the president is correct. He was sitting there -- you should vet these people. He was just a refugee. That is why he was in Turkey. He was part of ISIS. INGRAHAM: Congressman, he came in under Obama. MCCARTHY: Exactly. INGRAHAM: And has anyone followed up with former president Obama and said, does this give you pause about the type of refugee program we had in place? This is one example -- all it takes is one person, congressman, who has a connection or a part of a network that is overseas, one person to carry out horrific carnage in this country, that is all it takes. MCCARTHY: And how much information did he pass back while he was sitting in America? The most damaging part here is he got approved to come to America, but before he even came to America, he went and killed the officer in Iraq and then came to America. INGRAHAM: It's a scandal -- MCCARTHY: Under the Obama administration. INGRAHAM: And of course the regular media, it is like a blip, then it's back to Omarosa. Congressman, thanks for the update on all of this. We really appreciate it. And stay out there speaking about the economy, absolutely. Thank you so much. By the way, the media are lambasting President Trump now for dehumanizing Omarosa. So what happens when a Clinton family member says something far more outrageous? Details after this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The dog thing, that goes back to a long history of authoritarian leaders using animalistic slurs to try to dehumanize people or groups of people. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The idea of dehumanizing your opponent, whether it's a political opponent or someone you disagree with, is rooted in very ugly history. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And he does it as a cattle call to his base, right, to say, and to, hey, look what you are doing. I think these people are less than, I am dehumanizing them. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The media are in a tizzy over President Trump's so called dehumanizing comments about Omarosa, but apparently it's crickets when influential Democrats like the Clintons make outrageously dehumanizing remarks. Take a listen to Chelsea Clinton supporting abortion on demand. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHELSEA CLINTON: This is not a disconnected fact that American women entering the labor force from 1970 to 2009 added three and a half trillion dollars to our economy, the net new entrants of women. That is not disconnected from the fact that Roe became the law of the land in January of 1973. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Wow. Wow, wow, wow. Joining us now with reaction, FOX News contributor Rachel Campos-Duffy, along with Ellen Ratner, bureau chief for Talk Media News. Let's start with you, Ellen. When I hear Chelsea Clinton speak about all the money that the economy has gotten because of, I guess, more than 44 million abortions in the United States, which is a staggering figure, since 1973 and Roe, that that would improve the economy. And to that I say, to monetize life, to me, it's pretty dehumanizing, to a lot of Americans. And how much would 44 million Americans, how much would they have added to the U.S. economy, let alone inventions they might have invented or breakthroughs in medicine -- I mean, every child gone as a loss. But for Chelsea, it's a gain. So who is dehumanizing whom here? ELLEN RATNER, BUREAU CHIEF, TALK MEDIA NEWS: Listen, I don't think it's right to dehumanize anybody. However, I have to say that choice is choice, and women have a choice in this country. That was what Roe versus Wade was about. And -- INGRAHAM: I know that. We're talking about her comments about how it adds to the economy. Monetizing a human being -- you know what else was good for the economy? The slave owners said slavery was good for the economy. We thought that dehumanized people, didn't we? We outlawed that. RATNER: It did dehumanize people but I have to say this, that why aren't men taking care of kids? If we had more equality, perhaps, as you would like, there would be less abortions. But there isn't equality in this country. INGRAHAM: Rachel Campos-Duffy, Chelsea Clinton is pretty popular, she has a pretty high profile, and it's no secret she is pro-choice. But I don't know, coming off the Omarosa thing, I don't like anyone being called a dog. I don't think the president should have gone there. He calls everybody, though, and that is kind of his lingo, New York lingo. But I don't know, when I heard that, I was like, wow, that is what we are using to justify 44 million abortions. I thought they were supposed to be safe, legal, and rare. Is 44 million rare? RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: No, absolutely not. And first of all, I'm really enjoying this moment of transparency in the Democrat party. They are openly embracing socialism, they are telling the truth about abortion. Remember, they said abortion is just health care, which is their favorite euphemism for it. We now see the truth. It is about power, it is about profits. That is what abortion is about. And you made a really great point, by the way, in the very beginning, Laura, when you talked about the number of women who are no longer -- who are prevented by entering the workforce because of Roe versus Wade. Those are 20 some million women, by the way, mostly minorities, who are no longer in the workforce, who are not contributing to our country, aren't paying taxes, aren't paying Social Security, aren't inventing the cure to cancer, aren't running for president. So again, I actually appreciate her honesty and transparency about what abortion really is about. It's about a person. RATNER: Since when is abortion about profits? I've never heard -- CAMPOS-DUFFY: The sale of baby body parts, please, give me a break. We have lots of evidence on that. There were actually congressional hearings about the profit being made, not just on the abortion itself but on the products of the abortion, on the human -- INGRAHAM: Most of Planned Parenthood's revenue comes from either $500 million from the government, and that is for health care, even though they don't do ultrasounds. They do other things. RATNER: They do a lot of health care. INGRAHAM: They don't do ultrasounds, which a lot of people think, because heaven forbid you actually see what is in your room. But it is about $500 an abortion on average, so half of their billion-dollar -- RATNER: Planned parenthood does separate health care for women, and you can't dispute that. INGRAHAM: There are a lot of community health care clinics around the country that do not do abortions and do a great job. They make their money, though, not from giving out the pill, they make their money, Ellen, you wouldn't disagree with that, right, they make their money from the abortion procedure. RATNER: No. They actually run separate health care clinics for women. And you can't dispute that. INGRAHAM: That is where the $500 million from the government -- the government has given them $500 million for years and years and years. That is supposed to go to the health care, which infuriates people because it is all fungible money. They get $500 million from the government. They get the 320,000 abortions committed at Planned Parenthood clinics across the country. You do the math. RATNER: There is a very strict line between abortion and health care, and that was done a long time ago. INGRAHAM: Final from Rachel, real quick. CAMPOS-DUFFY: I would just say, what she did was she put a value, whether it was GDP or profits made at Planned Parenthood on the value of a human life. INGRAHAM: Monetizing life. CAMPOS-DUFFY: Perfectly Clintonian ethics. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. INGRAHAM: Love having you both on. We're out of time. Love having you both on. By the way, coming back, remembering one of music legends greatest ever, after this. INGRAHAM: If I do say so myself, my team and I think it's been a great week on THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. And I have one programming note for all your loyal viewers. I will be on vacation starting tomorrow, returning a week from Monday. I hope you don't miss me too much. But fear not, we have got a top-notch lineup of guest hosts filling in for me. And finally, we want to end tonight remembering the life and unbelievable talent, never be another one like her, Aretha Franklin, who passed away today at age 76. Aretha got her start in the church pews singing gospel music, so it's only fitting to close things out with one of her extraordinary gospel performances. Good night from Washington. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (SINGING) (END VIDEO CLIP) Load-Date: August 17, 2018 End of Document Trump Revokes Brennan's Security Clearance; Sara Carter Obtains New Ohr-Steele Texts; Day Twelve of Paul Manafort Trial; There's been a Great Debate between the Legal Minds over President Trump's Decision to Revoke Former CIA Director John Brennan's Security Clearance, Some Say that the President Suppresses Brennan's Freedom of Speech, While Others Say that It's Just the Right Move by the President Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 15, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7350 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Kristin Fisher, Mark Levin, Daniel Hoffman, Sebastian Gorka Guests: Alan Dershowitz, David Schoen Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: No, you hit the post. I'm so proud of you. Good job. (LAUGHTER) TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Thank you. HANNITY: Great job, Tucker. And thank you. And it is official, John Brennan has now been stripped of his security clearance. The former CIA director, former communist, willfully abused his access to America's top secrets. Why? To malign Donald Trump both before and after the 2016 election. Now, his toxic conduct on conspiracy TV NBC does not comply with CIA policy, although the media will never tell you. And his actions represent what is a disgrace to the office he once held. In moments, we're going to highlight Brennan's history of bizarre, erratic behavior which, of course, is all rooted in anti-Trump. Plus, we'll make the case for why other corrupt deep state officials, they too must be stripped of their security clearances. And meanwhile, we have a major news breaking report tonight from Sara carter, including bizarre newly unearthed texts between Christopher Steele and DOJ official Bruce Ohr. This is a smoking gun text about firewalls just before Comey's 2017 appearance before Congress. You don't want to miss this report. Also tonight, we will cover day 12 of the trial of the century, Paul Manafort's 2005 tax and bank fraud trial. Closing arguments are now over. Jury instructions have been given. And, by the way, we'll watch it closely. And as the midterms inch closer, we will reveal how some on the left, they are now ramping up their divisive rhetoric just as we have predicted. And we'll also wish a very happy birthday to the leader of the Democratic Party, Maxine Waters. All right. Sit tight for tonight's breaking news, jammed packed opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. So, after years of serious misconduct, former CIA chief and Obama sycophant John Brennan can kiss his security clearance bye- bye. Today, President Trump stripped Brennan's special government access. Now, Sarah Sanders announced this decision earlier today. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I have decided to revoke the security clearance of John Brennan, former director of the Central Intelligence Agency. At this point in my administration, any benefits that senior officials might glean from consultations with Mr. Brennan are not outweighed by the risks posed by his erratic conduct and behavior. Second, that conduct and behavior tested and far exceeded the limits of any professional courtesy that may have been due to him. Mr. Brennan has a history that calls into question his objectivity and credibility. I'm evaluating action with respect to the following individuals: James Clapper, James Comey, Michael Hayden, Sally Yates, Susan Rice, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr. Security clearances for those who still have them may be revoked and those who have already lost their security clearance may not be able to have it reinstated. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: It is about time. For months right here on this program, we have been calling out Brennan over his serious and blatant abuse of power. For example, during his time as Obama's CIA director, John Brennan was responsible for the proliferation of Christopher Steele's dirty dossier in an effort to take down then-candidate Donald Trump and legitimized salacious, unverified claims, Russian lies found in that dossier. Brennan actually leaked its contents to then-Senator Harry Reid who then subsequently alerted the public in a open letter to James Comey. He pushed Hillary Clinton's Russian lies to purposefully deceive and lie to you, the American people. Why? So he could sway an election. And despite all of this, remember, Brennan told Congress, well, the CIA did not make use of the dirty dossier. That was a flat out lie. And that, my friends, is a gross abuse of power. Brennan literally tried to use your federal government to weaponize the Clinton campaign's phony Russian opposition research against Donald Trump. It's beyond disgusting. By the way, he is a walking, talking representative of why the American people do not have faith and trust in their government. By the way, speaking of talking, after stepping down as CIA director, John Brennan -- well, he's done a lot of it. In fact, he took all of his hatred of Donald Trump from the highest levels of the CIA, abusing his power, to his new job. He's now paid by a so-called news agency, conspiracy TV MSNBC, so-called news channel. He continues to peddle all this propaganda and misinformation and disinformation. How fitting. Take a look at the conduct of a former so-called nonpartisan CIA director who once had his fingers on every American secret we have. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: Donald Trump has badly sullied the reputation of the office of the presidency. With his invective, with his constant disregard, I think, for human decency. He is, I think, the most divisive president we've ever had in the Oval Office. He is feeding and fueling hatred and animosity and misunderstandings among Americans. I think the big question, first of all, for those of those who are on Mr. Trump's national security team, whether they can continue to serve in good conscience an individual who basically betrayed his nation. What Mr. Trump did yesterday was to betray to the women and men of the FBI, CIA, NSA, and others, and to betray the American public. And that's why I use the term that this is nothing short of treasonous. I think he's afraid of the president of Russia. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why? BRENNAN: Well, I think one can speculate to as to why. That the Russians have something on him personally, that he can roll out and make his life more difficult. Mr. Trump continues to have his ignorance of facts, the willful disregard of them. Again, just follow through on these campaign promises that really were very flawed. I and so many other national security officials are speaking out because of the abnormal and aberrant behavior of Mr. Trump. This is a very large and painful national kidney stone. The relief we feel afterward is going to be just exhilarating. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, for anyone who thinks that that man, that Trump-hating partisan, MSNBC hack, should have a security clearance -- let me make this very simple and easy to understand. And, by the way, I will read to you to the official CIA rules. And, by the way, all you hacks in the media, you need to do your jobs, you need to tell your audiences the truth what the rules of the CIA are. Quote: In the case of former directors, the agency holds their security clearance and renews it every five years for the rest of their life. However, that requires former CIA directors to behave like the current CIA employees. So, is what you saw, is that, you know, a man demeaning a sitting president of the United States on a daily basis on national TV, is that acceptable behavior for a sitting member of the CIA? Of course not. But the always indignant John Brennan, he's lashing out yet again yet today, writing on Twitter, quote: This action is part of a broader effort by Mr. Trump to suppress freedom of speech and punish critics. It should gravely worry all Americans, including intelligence professionals, about the cost of speaking out. My principles are worth far more than clearances. I will not relent. Mr. Brennan then followed that up with a more vitriolic appearance on, yes, conspiracy TV NBC. Take a look. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) BRENNAN: I do believe that Mr. Trump decided to take this action as he has done with others to try to intimidate and suppress any criticism of him or his administration. And revoking my security clearances is his way of trying to get back at me. I've seen this type of behavior and actions on the part of foreign tyrants and despots and autocrats for many, many years during my CIA and national security career. I never, ever thought I would see it here in the United States. And so, I do believe that all Americans really need to take stock of what is happening right now in our governments. (END AUDIO CLIP) HANNITY: I love getting lectured from former communists. This country is a better place tonight without that man having his fingers on America's most sensitive secrets. How a former communist ever became Barack Obama's CIA director is another insane part of all of this. Now, meanwhile, Sarah Sanders announced nine other current or former official security clearances are also under review, including the liar, the leaker that is known as James Clapper, that would include James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Susan Rice, Peter Strzok, Bruce Ohr, and others. My advice? Clean it up now. Get rid of all these clearances. We can easily make the case all night tonight, each of these disgraced or fired officials should lose their clearances permanently. But we would have to take all night. But we do, once again, have other breaking news to talk about. One of the people on that list, according to an exclusive report from Sara Carter, we now have a smoking gun evidence of the very special relationship between demoted DOJ official Bruce Ohr and ex-foreign spy Christopher Steele who put the phony dossier together. Carter has uncovered yet another series of texts tonight between Ohr and Steele. In one text, look at this, Christopher Steele expressing concern about James Comey's 2017 congressional testimony, writing two days before the testimony: Hi, just wondering if you had any news. Obviously, we are a bit apprehensive given the special appearance Congress on Monday. Hoping that important firewalls will hold. Many thanks. Ohr writes back: Sorry, no new news. I believe my early information is still accurate. I'll let you know immediately if there's any change. Sounds like the firewall is in place. What are these firewalls? What did Christopher Steele have to hide? And what was Bruce Ohr trying to cover up? And why was Monday so important, as we said? Well, that's the day that James Comey was set to testify before Congress, and Steele was afraid. Let's see -- we know of the Senate Intel Committee and their scrutiny. He was afraid of media scrutiny. He wanted a firewall to hold, firewalls plural? Bruce Ohr, Steele, had at least, we now know, 70 contexts. And meanwhile, Steele was just desperate to get his dossier to the hands of Robert Mueller. And under oath in Great Britain, we know that he couldn't even stand by his own claims in his Clinton bought and paid for dossier. He said it's just raw intelligence, I don't know if it's true. Now, why is Ohr still working at the DOJ? Why his wife worked for Fusion GPS, what was her role? Remember, we just discovered that they had another client beside Clinton. We just learned a Kremlin, a Thai lawyer, a Russian oligarch, so Fusion GPS is being paid by them and the Clintons? Now, what about Glen Simpson from Fusion GPS meeting with that Kremlin lawyer both before and after the now infamous 2016 Trump Tower meeting? That doesn't sound fishy to you? Mark it down on your calendar. These questions must be posed to Bruce Ohr when he testifies before Congress on August 28th. By the way, why aren't those hearings public? We reached out to Ohr for comment. Shockingly didn't receive a reply. Sara Carter will have more details in her report. She will join us in a few minutes. But first, we do have an update on the media's trial of the century. After just 12 days, closing arguments on both sides have come to an end. Paul Manafort's defense is clearly relying on the terrible credibility of the prosecution's star witness. And that's Manafort's former business partner Rick Gates. Despite him admitting to have numerous felonies, team Mueller provided Gates with a get out a free card in exchange for his testimony. It's like the case of -- remember Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, the gangster, who killed up to 19 people. And, by the way, so many other seedy individuals that our justice system frequently offers up sentencing, get out of jail free cards, prosecutorial bribes, if you will, in exchange for testimony. It's a serious problem, frequently resulting in less than trustworthy testimony. But in the case of Paul Manafort -- well, we should all be prepared, frankly, for a guilty verdict. And I'll tell you why -- 95 percent of federal cases end up that way. And while the media, they'll cheer in unison of Paul Manafort is found guilty, you must remember this: this case of Mueller had nothing -- zero -- to do with Russia. Zero to do with collusion. Nothing to do with Manafort's work on the campaign. And zero to do with Donald Trump. Why are we even here? We'll have more through this throughout the show, but now we turn to the midterm elections which are only 83 days away. And as we predicted, well, the language of the left is getting downright disgusting as it does every two to four years. In Tennessee, Democrat Steve Cohen urged Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn, who is running for the Senate, to jump off a bridge. By the way, they go high, we go -- something like that. Take a look. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) REP. STEVE COHEN (D), TENNESSEE: The big orange president, that's not somebody from Knoxville, he's going to come down here, he's going to endorse Marsha Blackburn. Because Marsha Blackburn, if he says jump off the Harahan Bridge, she'll jump off the Harahan Bridge. I wish he'd say that. (LAUGHTER) (END AUDIO CLIP) HANNITY: And if you really want to know how pathetic the Democratic Party is, well, just look at New York. Its governor, Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo, announcing his brand-new campaign slogan -- I'm not making it up. You have to see it to believe it. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D), NEW YORK: We are not going to make America great again. It was never that great. We have not reached greatness. We will reach greatness when every American is fully engaged. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: America has never been great? OK. Test at home. Name me one country in the history of mankind that has accumulated more power and abuse it less than the United States, that has accumulated more power and used it to advance the human condition around the world more than the United States of America? It doesn't exist. No, we're not perfect. This is the same America that beat back fascism and communism and Nazism and Imperial Japan and has stood for human rights and dignity all around the world at great cost to this country. Now, of course, segments on America's left would be complete without an overt threat to the president of the United States. Take a look at this poster from the band Pearl Jam showing what appears to be the skeletal remains of a dead President Trump outside a burning White House. And while Pearl Jam apparently wants the president to go down in flames, most Democrats, they'll just settle for impeachment. It is a cornerstone of what is their political strategy for 83 days, should they win in November. And no one has been more upfront about this plan than the de facto leader of the Democratic Party, Maxine Waters. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your birthday is on Wednesday. REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, pre-happy birthday. WATERS: Thank you. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But on Wednesday, if you could be granted one birthday wish, what would that be? WATERS: I guess now, my biggest birthday wish would be that we're able to get a leader of this country who represents us. I would wish that we could remove him from office and go about getting the kind of president that we could all be proud of. And if he's not impeached, if he cannot be impeached, 2020 is coming up and I believe that American people are going to do the right thing for our country, stand up for what is right, and get rid of this man who is embarrassing us all. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, today, Maxine Waters' birthday wish, it didn't come true. But President did honor her 80th birthday on Twitter. He wrote, quote: Happy birthday for the leader of the Democratic Party, Maxine Waters. On this program, we'd also like to wish Congresswoman Waters a very happy birthday, and to celebrate -- well, we put together a montage of the very best of the leader of the Democratic Party that would like to take back power in 83 days. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEVE MNUCHIN, TREASURY SECRETARY: The Senate Intel Committee with the House Intel Committee -- WATERS: Reclaiming my time. Reclaiming my time. Reclaiming my time. Reclaiming my time. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Secretary, the time belongs to the gentle lady from California. MNUCHIN: Perhaps, Mr. Chairman, I don't understand the rules because I thought I was allowed to answer questions. WATERS: Reclaiming my time. Reclaiming my time. Would you please explain the rules? And do not take away from my time. With this kind of inspiration, I will go and take Trump out tonight! And I will fight every day until he is impeached! Impeach 45! This is a bunch of scumbags. That's what they are. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Those are very strong words, Congresswoman. WATERS: They are all organized around making money. The fact he's wrapping his arms around Putin while Putin is continuing to advance into Crimea. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, from all of us who support the president and his agenda, keep it up, Congresswoman Maxine Waters. Now, the most honest voice in the Democratic Party. All right. We've got a lot to get to tonight, including our breaking news. Joining us now, FOX News contributor, investigative reporter Sara Carter, the author of "The New York Times" number one best seller three weeks in a row. By the way, Judge Jeanine is number two. "The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump." She's mad at you because she was number one until your book came out. I'm proud of both of you. You're both friends of mine. Sara, let's go directly to this text message, if I can read it, if you may, I think this is a smoking -- I'm wondering if you have any news. Obviously we are apprehensive giving scheduled appearances on Monday at Congress, hoping more important firewalls will hold. I believe my earlier information is still accurate. I let you know if anything changes. One of the firewalls, Sara Carter, two days, Steele sends this to Ohr before Comey's testimony? What are the firewalls that have been set in place? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, this is before Comey's testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, Sean. And remember, this is where Comey announced that there was a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign. So, these firewalls are very important. This actually shows in my opinion. It shows that they set up firewalls, which is very interesting, because Bruce Ohr apparently was one of those firewalls and apparently there were a lot more firewalls in place. A lot of other people actually communicating with Christopher Steele, possibly in the State Department and within the intelligence community. And they were moving this information in and out. Remember, it was a lot of the same information that they tried to use inside the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court application against Carter Page so that they could spy on the Trump campaign. And it wasn't just Carter Page. Let me make myself clear here. When they are listening to telephone conversations and gathering emails from Carter Page, they are also looking at secondary and tertiary people in communication with Carter Page. So with everybody that was connected to Carter Page. And, Sean, I believe this is a smoking gun. They need to ask Bruce Ohr what those firewalls were and are, and exactly how his involvement in this, because he does talk about information that he supplied Christopher Steele earlier. HANNITY: Seventy contacts, text messages, emails, meetings, and, of course, Ohr's wife works with Fusion GPS. Firewalls before Comey's testimony, earlier information he provided. Firewalls sound like they had a plan. Sounds a lot like, oh, an insurance policy to me, Gregg Jarrett. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Well, I think you're right. And, in fact, here is 60 pages worth of the text messages, emails, the notes of Bruce Ohr and his conversations with Christopher Steele spanning a full year. What's remarkable about these documents, and Sara's reporting is exactly right, is on the one hand, furiously Steele is trying to communicate with the FBI through Bruce Ohr after Steele has been fired for being a liar. He's also trying to get a contact with Robert Mueller and his special counsel team. But at the same time, he is frantic and worried that he is going to get busted for all of the illegal things he has been doing. In one text message, he is -- he's concerned that Grassley's letter will implicate him, and then he's worried in another text that Comey is going to expose him in Congress. And still another, he's worried about questions from the Senate Intelligence Committee that are being sent to him. This is a guy who's worried about getting busted for all of his wrongdoing. HANNITY: Think about that. He's worried about Grassley, the Senate Intel Committee. JARRETT: Comey. HANNITY: He's worried about Comey. He's also worried in texts about the media. Let me go back to this, the 70 contacts. But more importantly, Ohr and Steele are talking about getting his phony dossier that he didn't stand up for under oath in Great Britain to the special counsel Mueller. So, that, too, is a big piece of this now emerging puzzle that is beginning to come together, Sara. CARTER: Absolutely. I mean, they wanted to get this dossier to Mueller. We know that this dossier was used as the bulk for the war and to spy on Carter Page. But even more importantly, Sean, you know, Steele was in communication with a Russian who was living here in America, as well. He was in communication with Glen Simpson. He must have been in communication with other Russians, former KGB FSB people that were living in Europe and possibly in communication with people in Russia. And even more interestingly enough, now we know -- HANNITY: I love the meetings before and after. CARTER: That's right -- HANNITY: I love the fact that the lawyer -- the Russian lawyer was a client of Fusion GPS. CARTER: Natalia Veselnitskaya, who was the attorney, yes, was in communication with Glen Simpson before and after. Absolutely. HANNITY: All right. Amazing report, Sara. Gregg, three weeks and running number one in "The New York Times". We're proud of you. JARRETT: Thank you. HANNITY: Thank you. The information is critical in your book. JARRETT: Thank you very much. HANNITY: We have a lot more to come tonight. Kristin Fisher, new information on these abuse allegations surrounding Deputy DNC Chairman Keith Ellison. Also, Alan Dershowitz, David Schoen, they will react to this breaking news. And the great one Mark Levin. Busy news night. Stay with us. HANNITY: DNC chairman is now commenting on the abuse allegations made about Congressman Keith Ellison, allegations the Democratic congressman is now adamantly denying. Joining us now live from Washington with more is our own Kristin Fisher -- Kristin. KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Hey, good evening. So, you know, it appears that these domestic abuse allegations ended up having very little impact on the outcome of this race. Congressman Keith Ellison easily won the Democratic primary for Minnesota attorney general, even though just days earlier, he was accused of emotional and physical abuse by an ex-girlfriend. Over the weekend, her son alleged on Facebook that he had seen angry text messages from Ellison to his mother and a video showing him dragging her off the bed. But so far, that video has not surfaced and Ellison is adamantly denying all charges. And he addressed the allegations head on during his victory speech last night. Listen here. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. KEITH ELLISON (D), MINNESOTA: We had a very unexpected event in this campaign. That happened. I want to assure you that it is not true. And we are going to keep on fighting all the way through. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: And the six-term congressman also serves as the deputy chairman of the DNC. It's a little bit of an awkward spot to be in because the DNC is now reviewing these allegations of domestic abuse. The committee's chairman says he takes it very seriously, though he downplayed the impact that this could have heading into the midterms. And, you know, Minnesota is shaping up to be a critical state in November. And don't forget, Sean, Minnesota is still reeling from the resignation of Senator Al Franken just last year -- Sean. HANNITY: All right. Kristin, thank you for that report. And joining us now with reactions to tonight's opening monologue, the author of another best-selling book, "The Case Against Impeaching Trump," Harvard Law professor, Alan Dershowitz. By the way, he has a great book. And criminal defense attorney David Schoen. Professor Dershowitz, let me begin with you. I think that Sara's report tonight, what are the firewalls? Well, I don't have any new information. It sounds very nefarious and damning to me. ALAN DERSHOWITZ, HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR: Well, I have no idea. That's why right from the beginning, I called for a nonpartisan complete investigation by experts to all aspects of this whole election. We have to get to the bottom of this. We have to have testimony that's open to the public, not behind closed doors of a grand jury. The American public is entitled to know what these things mean. I have no idea what these firewalls are referring to, but it's certainly enough to open up some kind of investigation. But can I comment just briefly on your opening monologue? You know, I wrote a piece for the Boston Globe arguing that if the president revokes the security clearance only of his critics that would raise a serious First Amendment question. It would be a close question because after all he's not shutting them down, these people can still say what they want and criticize him. They just don't have access to the material. And if they don't have access to the material, what that means at some way punished for their expression of political views, then I think you can have some First Amendment issues that are raised. I don't know how the case would come out. It's similar in some ways to a case that happened during the Vietnam War-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Professor, let me read to again, I think this is important. DERSHOWITZ: Yes. HANNITY: CIA's rules. In case of former directors the agency holds their security clearance. DERSHOWITZ: Right. HANNITY: And renews it every five years for the rest of their life. However, that requires former CIA directors to behave like current CIA employees. You cannot make the case that Mr. Brennan in any way is conducting himself like a current CIA employee. DERSHOWITZ: No, I agree with that. I agree with that. The question is is this being applied across the board to people and are they looking at everybody's background? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The answer is yes. DERSHOWITZ: You know, if the case went up to the Supreme Court, it would be like the case involving the travel ban. The court would ask the question, are we allowed to look at the motive of the president. In doing this, or do we look at the action? The president clearly has the power to revoke security clearance, but if he does it for an impermissible purpose and it couldn't be the basis for criminal charges, but it would be a basis for constitutional violations. I'm saying it's a close case-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I would argue that the president as there is propably a lot more to come. DERSHOWITZ: -- under the First Amendment. HANNITY: I think if we applied the standard that I just read to you, and you agree it's applicable. DERSHOWITZ: Yes. HANNITY: There's no ambiguity here. DERSHOWITZ: Yes. HANNITY: He's not behaving like a current CIA employee. Let me go back to David Schoen. (CROSSTALK) DERSHOWITZ: Let me give you a hypothetical. HANNITY: Let me just go to David Schoen for one second. DERSHOWITZ: No, let me just give you one quick hypothetical. It's quick hypothetical. HANNITY: Yes, go ahead. DERSHOWITZ: Let's assume there was somebody who wasn't behaving like a CIA director but was saying things positive about the president. HANNITY: It doesn't matter. DERSHOWITZ: And the president didn't revoke his security clearance, then we'd have a serious question. It's the content of the information. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: This is such an egregious -- this is such an egregious abuse. You recognize it's not -- anybody with a common sense realizes there's no CIA employee can act this way of former director. Let me go to David. David, I want to stay on this firewall issue and -- firewalls plural. I cannot imagine why Christopher Steele is in contact 70 plus times, at least that we know of with Bruce Ohr. And that the things that they are talking about, and the urgency that he's expressing prior to Comey's testimony. DAVID SCHOEN, CIVIL RIGHTS AND CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: It's a shocking story. And as Professor Dershowitz said from the start, quite frankly on the special counsel question, the special counsel regulations provided and provide that something short of a full investigation has been the appointment of the special counsel is appropriate in the situation like this. There has to be a full hearing. It's not going to happen certainly from Mr. Mueller on this question and the DOJ frankly right now has been missing in action. So I don't know who is going to carefully look into this. Sara Carter has done a great job reporting it, but it has to be looked into. I'm going to jump back into one other question -- one other issue. As Professor Dershowitz recognized with all respect and always with him, the president certainly has the authority and the exclusive authority on the question of Brennan's security clearance. Brennan has overstepped things here. And by the way there is a history for this. President Obama isolated people whose views he didn't like, one of the associates like George Tenet, like Paul Wolfowitz, didn't include them in the briefing. It's true he stopped short of revoking the security clearance, but why does Brennan need the security clearance at this point, he's misusing it and he's abusing it. HANNITY: I would argue that I think we are going to see probably more people. Clapper should be next, I believe Susan Rice, with the whole list of people. Bruce Ohr, James Comey. And I would argue that's all going to happen. Professor, I want to go, the context though with Bruce Ohr, you don't find that -- it's before the election. By the way, one other thing, the House will have the former CIA director disseminating lies! Unverified lies to the American people! Vis-a-vis Harry Reid! That's not the role of the CIA, professor. That is a scary deep state act. (CROSSTALK) DERSHOWITZ: No, I agree and I think -- no. He should be criticized for it. I know John Brennan. I like him. I thought he was a good director of the CIA. But I think he's gone overboard in his criticism. And it makes it sound when he makes criticism that he knows it because he was in the CIA, he has some special information. And I think a former director of the CIA has to be much more discreet in his level of criticism. Having said that, I do think if the president denies security clearance only to his critics, he will be in court on the wrong side-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way, I have an update. DERSHOWITZ: This time the ACLU will bring a lawsuit because they will bring any lawsuit against Donald Trump. HANNITY: Donald Trump, by the way, on the security clearances ha snow said, I put a Republican on the list that they were incompetent or crazy, well said. We'll follow this on the days to come. (CROSSTALK) DERSHOWITZ: That's a good argument. HANNITY: Professor, congratulations on the success of your book. David Schoen, always good to see you. When we come back, we'll continue this discussion with the great one Mark Levin joins us. That's next. HANNITY: All right. Predictable after Sarah Sanders announced that John Brennan security clearance had been revoked, of course the destroy-Trump mainstream liberal media, of course an extension of the Democratic Party, had a complete meltdown. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST: This is without precedent in modern American history. I mean, the security clearances have never been used to punish people for speaking out. SYMONE SANDERS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: This is nothing short of extraordinary and we should all be scared about the state of our democracy. The president sent his White House press secretary out there today to basically poof on the people from the press secretary podium and not only threaten like, they didn't just make a threat, it was a promise. They are snatching John Brennan's national security clearance. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We begin tonight with a chilling action taken by the President of the United States that looks like something you might see out of a dictatorship or authoritarian regime. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Trump is under fire for Nixonian enemy's list tactics. Those are the accusations of at least one former FBI official after the White House has publicly admitting that it is retaliating against former CIA director John Brennan. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Joining us now is the host of CRTV's Levin TV, the host of Life, Liberty, and Levin, Sunday night right here on the Fox News Channel. Number one in the slot. I called him the great one Mark Levin. Mark, we have never had a former communist who literally we now know spread Russian lies to misinform, propagandize the American people to impact a presidential election either. These are unprecedented times. MARK LEVIN, FOX NEWS HOST: Let's see if we can unravel this from the fabulously stupid Omarosa media. First of all, apparently the fact that Brennan voted for a Stalinist who was funded by the Soviets, a communist party USA was very attractive to Barack Obama who made him CIA director. Think about that. So how did this man ever get a security clearance? I'm curious about this. Now, a couple of things. The president is, looking at Brennan, he revokes his security privilege. Professor Dershowitz needs to know that's a privilege. That's not a right to security privilege. The fact to the matter is, nobody is stopping Brennan from speaking. In fact, nobody could stop. He has a big mouth, he will never shut up, he'll go on TV and be the kook that he is. The idea that he has a right to access to information because he served in the Obama administration at the CIA is a preposterous argument, but of course the ACLU will take it up the case because they take up a lot of stupid cases. That's number one. Number two, who else is the president looking at? Comey and people who are keeping score, Comey is a Republican. How many times have people told the media, Mueller is a Republican, Comey is a Republican, and even they question the president! OK, you got a republican. And by the way, for the media, most of these people the president are looking at are white. I know that's very important to you. Now Comey was fired at the recommendation of Rosenstein. Comey was a leaker and he absconded with government documents when he left. His security clearance should be pulled. McCabe is under criminal investigation, the number two from the FBI. Never before in history, media, his security clearance should be pulled! Peter Strzok was just fired. The guy in charge of counterintelligence investigations for misconduct, his security should be pulled! James Clapper committed perjury. He lied to the American people and Senator Wyden and that committee a long time ago, his security clearance should have been pulled. Bruce Ohr, another one. Pulled! Yates, another one, not because the president has a problem with Democrats or liberals, he has a problem with these people. And we haven't even got to the unmasking issue yet. So this is not a First Amendment issue. Meanwhile -- meanwhile! When these people have security clearances, what the hell did they do with them? Well, let's take a look. The Russians interfered in our election, right? Well, who was president, who was head of the CIA, who was national security advisor, who was the head of the FBI? All of these people with their security clearances in position to power did nothing effective to stop the Russians from interfering in our election. They did nothing to stop China from stealing our technology. They did nothing to stop North Korea's nuclear program. And even worse, they awarded the Islam -- hold it, Mark, the terrorist regime in Tehran with $150 billion, right? With $150 billion and provided them with a pathway to nuclear weapons. Good job, boys and girl in the Obama administration with your security clearances. The fact that Obama appointed these people and gave them security clearances, it's not the obligation of this president to let them retain their security clearances. There is no constitutional issue. That's just nonsense. And again, one of them is a Republican. So that makes this all OK. HANNITY: Mark, I would take away all of their clearances. LEVIN: I would take away all of their clearances too. But the fact of the matter is we really need to focus in on the conduct of these individuals. Look at the phony media and the arguments they are making. This is like a dictatorship. This is -- this is -- and we've never seen anything like this before. All these blabbermouths who know nothing, you are going to see Clapper on TV until you throw up on your loafers. You are going to see Comey he had his book thing, you are going to see Brennan all over the place, all these phony victims and so forth and so on. Meanwhile, when they were in office, when they had their security clearances, when they had power, they didn't stop the Russians, they didn't stop the red Chinese, they didn't stop the North Koreans, they funded the Iranians, and, in fact, they are responsible for the greatest scandal in American history by interfering with our election and trying to undermine the Trump campaign. HANNITY: And the Trump presidency. I think we got to remember, hold on, Mark and throw off all my loafers. But more importantly, that's what we call you the great one. Great commentary, Mark Levin. Thank you. LEVIN: Thank you. HANNITY: Don't forget, Mark's show, Life Liberty, Levin, every Sunday night 10 p.m., number one in its time slot right here on the Fox News Channel. When we come back, former CIA operative Daniel Hoffman, he's been very outspoken in his criticism of John Brennan, and Sebastian Gorka, next. HANNITY: All right. Here now with reaction of President Trump revoking the yes, former communist John Brennan's security clearance, Fox News contributor retired CIA intelligence officer, Dan Hoffman, and the author of "Why We Fight," Fox News national security strategist, Sebastian Gorka. Both of you have been outspoken as it relates to Brennan. Thirty five years or so you spent your life, Dan Hoffman, in this type of business, let's put it that way? DANIEL HOFFMAN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, I always felt like John Brennan should take the Hippocratic Oath of respecting the privilege of holding security clearance and doing no harm to our national security when he was enjoying his right to freedom of speech. And he did that tonight when he was speaking on MSNBC. This isn't about freedom of speech as other shave said on the show. But let me tell you just from my experience at the CIA, the concern that I and, I think others would have is when foreign governments, not to mention spies, foreign spies, stealing secrets on our behalf, here John Brennan making unsubstantiated claims that Vladimir Putin could blackmail President Trump. They think, well, John Brennan must know something because after all he has security clearance. And that's why John Brennan was causing, or risking, great collateral damage to our national security. HANNITY: Well, I think, Dr. Gorka, they should take all of these people's security clearances. Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe, and all bunch of others. You know, but this hack if you look at this, he tried to peddle lies to the American people in his role as director, putting aside former directors must act as current CIA employees which he is not doing. So, you know, as a matter of protocol, he has failed on every level. How did this guy even get a security clearance? SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: You just stole my thunder, Sean. Issue number one, John Brennan should never have had a security clearance. He admitted in 1980 when he joined the CIA in a polygraph that he voted for the communists at the height of the Cold War when they wished to destroy us. Never should have had one. I love Alan Dershowitz, but this is not a Civil Rights/freedom of speech issue. Nobody has the right to security clearance. There's only one person who get security clearance automatically. And guess who it is? It's the president. Everybody else it is a privilege of office. Dan Hoffman, myself, John Brennan, we have all taken an oath of office. I took it twice. I took it when I joined the Defense Department, I took it when I joined the White House. It says you will protect the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and you will bear faith, true faith and allegiance to the same. John Brennan has betrayed that Oath of Office and he has betrayed his profession and the intelligence community every time he accuses the president of treason with no evidence. He is reprehensible and he has betrayed his oath of office, Sean. It is that serious. HANNITY: Dan, and I agree, Dr. Gorka. I -- why is it just a stick in my craw as CIA director that he literally perpetrated on the American people spread misinformation -- disinformation! By the way, right out of Pravda, right out of, you know, former Soviet Union lies and propaganda. Misinforming purposefully the American people with unverified information. That bothers me as much as all that he's done after. HOFFMAN: Yes, I think that's a separate issue frankly about the extent to which he politicized the intelligence and involved himself in politics. I think he was the most political director in my -- over my career in the government of over 30 years. But I guess that's, to me, it's probably a separate issue. This one is him abusing the privilege that he enjoyed for having a security clearance. HANNITY: Absolutely. HOFFMAN: But also, let's be clear, the clearance was designed so that he could help his successor. I don't think anyone is inviting him back and asking for his assistance at this time anyway. HANNITY: No. HOFFMAN: So regardless, I'm not sure-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Last word, Dr. Gorka. HOFFMAN: Yes, go ahead. HANNITY: Sorry, go ahead. HOFFMAN: No, that's -- go ahead. HANNITY: Dr. Gorka? GORKA: John Brennan supported Moscow during the Cold War and he's still supporting the Kremlin today. That's who he is. He's the first person should be stripped of his clearance and there should be more to follow, Sean. HANNITY: I'd scrape the whole bunch of them. They're all corrupt. They've all abused their power. GORKA: Yes. HANNITY: They've all betrayed the American people with a political agenda. And so many of them tried to literally steal an election and influence an election in the United States. Thank you, both. When we come back, Democrats continuing to embrace their far-left radical socialism. We will be right back. HANNITY: Elizabeth Warren was asked if she was relieved Democrats are moving to the far left. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are considered at the time, the far left end of the Democratic Party. There has been a progressive wave, it seems, post the 2016 election. Are you surprised it took this long or are you relieved that it's finally happening? SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN (D), MASSACHUSETTS: Look, I look at this as people are starting to ask the fundamental question, who does government work for? And boy, has that become even clearer over the last year and a half. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Eighty three days an important election. Let not your heart be troubled. There she is. Load-Date: August 16, 2018 End of Document Media Politicization, Self-Centered Controversies, and Becoming the Opposition Party; Trump Revokes Security Clearance of Former CIA Director John Brennan; Grand Jury Issues Report on Victims of Abuse from Catholic Church Clergy; Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Writes Column on NFL Players and National Anthem; Colorado Civil Right Commission Charges Cake Shop Owner with Discrimination Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST August 15, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8828 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Kristin Fisher, Dave Bossie Guests: Richard Goodstein, Ron DeSantis, Lindsey Graham, Raymond Arroyo, Anthony Tall, Horace Cooper, Jack Phillips, Kristen Waggoner Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. ELIZABETH WARRREN (D), MASSACHUSETS: And boy, has that become even clearer over the last year and a half. (END VIDEO CLIP) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Eighty-three days, an important election. Let not your heart be troubled. There she is. I went two seconds over. I'm like Tucker. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hi Hannity. HANNITY: That's horrible. INGRAHAM: Hey, great show tonight. I'm packed here so, I'd love to chitchat but we got to like, you know, got to keep the frames -- HANNITY: You have a big show. Have a great show Laura Ingraham. INGRAHAM: All right, you too. All right "hanni-tie." Good evening. I'm Laura Ingraham and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE from Washington, D.C. of course. We have a riveting show for you tonight. Would you want anything different? President Trump has revoked former CIA Chief John Brennan's security clearance and the media is in a complete freak out mode. Congressman Ron DeSantis joins us with a reaction. We also have an exclusive with Senator Lindsey Graham on his very provocative and somewhat -- you know, I think it's controversial idea on how to clean up the FBI. And Raymond Arroyo will be here with a Hollywood example of false Me Too allegations and some all too credible ones out of Pennsylvania. But first, the media versus Trump, that is the focus of tonight's "Angle"." Remember when it was bad for local media to convey coordinated messages over the airwaves? You know, like when Sinclair Media asked local anchors at their stations to read the same promo scripts to describe their newscasts. They were derided by legacy media as Orwellian, Soviet-style propaganda, so it created local Stepford Wives. Oh, the outrage. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRIAN STELTER, CNN ANCHOR: -- you get the idea there what's going on. All these anchors and all these markets were required to read these scripts, attacking fake news. DAVID ZURAWIK, MEDIA CRITIC, BALTIMORE SUN: If you are centralizing a political message to however many, more than 200 stations I think it will be if they get the FCC approval for this, to 200 stations, you have one of the great political messaging machines in the world. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So, it was an abuse of the media for Sinclair to air these homogenized promos and local markets. But when a legacy media coordinate messages across local markets, it is apparently no problem at all. Tomorrow, over 350 papers organized by "The Boston Globe" will print coordinated editorials to denounce the president for his fake news comments and media trash talk. Sounds like one of the great political messaging machines in the entire world, if you ask me. Marjorie Pritchard of "The Boston Globe" told CNN, "We have some big newspapers, but the majority are from smaller markets, all enthusiastic about standing up to Trump's assault on journalism." What we are witnessing is the full on politicization of the media. As Steve Bannon once said, the media have become the opposition party and that is a pity. I think it is ever since their disastrous misreading of the electorate in 2016, they have obsessively worked to prove themselves right. In other words, on just about every issue, they paint the most insidious portrait possible of the president in order that later on they can say, see, we told you so, we were right. I think it is also utterly predictable. The better the economy gets, the more confident the American people are about their future, that more frantic than ever Trump press becomes. It's a perverse, inverse relationship. And I've noticed something else. The more popular Trump becomes among African-Americans -- his numbers are as high as 36 percent according to Rasmussen -- the more desperate the scribblers are to tar him as racist. And of course they throw in xenophobic and misogynist for good measure. But rather than cover how American lives are being transformed due to a booming economy and record-breaking employment figures, the media focus on self-created controversies like fabricated dossier claims. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RACHEL MADDOW, MSNBC SHOW HOST: What was in the dossier was a spelled out, detailed allegation that there was a mutual operation underway here, that there was collaboration and coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russians. CHRIS HAYES, MSNBC SHOW HOST: A day that began with clips of James Comey, former FBI director, all over television, telling ABC News that he cannot rule out infamous pee tape mentioned in the Steele dossier is real. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- the pee tape or whatever the heck it is has credibility. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Listen, that is exactly what Mueller is looking at, one of the things and so we'll find out. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: False, and one of my personal faves that the media obsessed on, the breathless Melania is MIA speculation. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STELTER: One thing that the president and the White House have been quite quiet about is Melania Trump and her status. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Staying behind at the White House it seems, First Lady Melania Trump. Public hasn't seen her in 23 days. Many wondering where she might be. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If the first lady or the person who is standing in for the first lady disappears, you want to know where she is. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The first lady was recovering from a fairly serious surgery. By the way, a lot of these journalists take up two weeks for, what, a colonoscopy. And now, we are caught up in the Omarosa obsession. That is wall-to-wall coverage of a woman lacking credibility, pushing specious claims complete with surreptitiously reported audio snippets. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KRISTEN WELKER, NBC WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Can you stand at the podium and guarantee American people they will never hear Donald Trump utter the "N" word on a recording in any context? DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: We already know that this president seems immune from even the broadest standards of decency we've had in common in the past. Another tape wouldn't change anything. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: People are at least prepared to believe a lot of the things that she is a saying about him and at least a couple of things have looked like they might be true based on some of these tapes. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: A couple of things look like they might be true. Omarosa's string of charges have been refuted by nearly every party she quotes in her book, Frank Luntz, Katrina Pierson, and Lynne Patton who was her closest confidant at the White House who was on our show last night. They all dispute her claims. And the president says the producer of "The Apprentice," Mark Burnett, also denies that there is any tape. But still the media happily gives Omarosa hours and hours and hours of air time. I think in their warped thinking, the woman America considers to be the ultimate mean girl helps advance the narrative for the media that Trump's a racist. But once again, I think the media are misreading the American people. Here's the latest data. According to an NPR/PBS News Hour/Marist Poll -- that's a mouthful -- 71 percent of Americans have not very much or no confidence at all in the media compared to just 25 percent who have a great deal of confidence or quite a lot. But the amazing thing is the media don't seem to care about what the consumers of news are shouting at them. Both the ratings and readership are down, whatever. We have a mission, that is to get Trump. Most had completely abandoned the idea of objectivity and are now essentially operating as full-time members of the resistance. So, now that we've established all that, what lessons can the White House take from all of this? I realized it's tempting to swing at every pitch. But let's be real here, as Trump proved in the election, the media just aren't that influential anymore. So the president need not feel like he has to respond to their every utterance regardless of how vicious it is. Combine the media's winning irrelevance with the Democrats' invisible agenda, and the president I think has a pretty sweet opportunity to actually expand his base before November. Now I know a lot of people are shaking their head, how can that be? Now I know he will be on the stump and critical races before November, but I think he should also take the time to visit places that Republicans have often ignored. Mr. President, your agenda is working, so sell it everywhere. And listen to the people who are being fed a load of malarkey about what is in your heart and mind and show them what is really in your heart and mind. And yes, that means doing events exclusively for African-Americans and Latinos including in distressed communities, places like Chicago, where Democratic leaders have failed abysmally. Show them a better alternative and celebrate the gains you have already won for them and all Americans. Too many Republicans never understand that you often win respect for just showing up. But of course, I don't expect the editorial writers to give you any credit for any outreach like that. But in a way, who cares? No one is reading them anyway. And that's "The Angle"." Joining me now for reaction is Dave Bossi, a Fox News contributor who served as deputy manager of Trump's campaign and Richard Goodstein, a former advisor to Bill and Hillary Clinton. Richard. RICHARD GOODSTEIN, FORMER ADVISOR TO THE CLINTONS: Well, where do you want to start first? The media or Omarosa? Let me talk about Omarosa for a second. You would like to think, Trump said, I'm going to hire the best people, these people would be experienced, have great ideas, really work hard, and work for the American people. Instead, what he revealed was, the people that he keeps on are people who say good things about him who he later refers to as dogs and lowlifes. And the problem with that is what does that say to foreign leaders? You know, he doesn't just talk in a vacuum. People actually are kind of watching what he is saying and it just kind of -- and that Michael Cohen, Omarosa, god knows who else, are taping conversations with Trump. What does that say about the kind of relationships that even his closest advisors have towards him and what trust they have in him? That's the problem. It's not what's on the tapes. It's what his reaction to the tapes say about him. I think INGRAHAM: What do you think Susan Rice's performance on all those Sunday shows after Benghazi? What did that say to foreign -- GOODSTEIN: I think (ph) exactly what it says -- INGRAHAM: -- lots for this administration. GOODSTEIN: I think -- I think if -- INGRAHAM: You want to talk about qualified people? GOODSTEIN: Yes, I will. INGRAHAM: Spying on Americans and unmasking people. You want to talk about qualified? She should never have been promoted to the U.N. after she went out and lied to the American public. She was not qualified or she was lying! GOODSTEIN: Let me answer your question -- INGRAHAM: Omarosa should never have been hired. I agree. GOODSTEIN: She said exactly what the intelligence community said. If she had deviated from it, then you would have had her head for good reasons. INGRAHAM: Please. She would deviate from it? A goofy video causes a Benghazi attack? It's ridiculous. Terrorism -- everybody knew it was terrorism. Bossi. DAVE BOSSI, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Look, yes. Obama had his share of bad folks working in his White House. Omarosa's big question, for me, the big question about Omarosa is not just what she has on tape that she's released, but what she has that she hasn't released. And I think that -- I would call for a congressional investigation into how she did this. Did she use her personal phone? Did she use a White House phone? Was it secured or not secured? Where their enemies of this country who had access or could gain access to those recordings? This is a very dangerous precedent to be recording inside the situation room in the White House and Congress' oversight, in my opinion, this is a must do investigation. GOODSTEIN: It's rare -- of course, I agree with David 100 percent. INGRAHAM: She's an embarrassment. You're right. She never should have been hired. GOODSTEIN: Those are presidential records incidentally. Did she respond to a subpoena that was give to the White House? It's interesting. Those are presidential records -- her tapes. We'll see whether they get (inaudible). INGRAHAM: "Politico" reviewed the tapes and they said the tapes she provided, and they said, well, well they're kond of juicy, nothing about the president or his family. And so it's like she was out there like "I'm Omarosa, I'm going to tape you. Like. I never trust people who taped conversations to humiliate or who write memos to the file. Jim Comey, Omarosa, end of story. GOODSTEIN: They're the -- INGHRAHAM: Memos -- let's talk about Brennan because everyone is hot and bothered by Brennan. And Richard, this is what Brennan said today about what Trump could be trying to do with the Russians at the Russian's behest. Let's watch. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE CIA: I am very concerned about the principle here. I am very concerned about what this might portend in terms of the revocations of other clearances and this is something that I believe that the press needs to shine a very bright spotlight on to make sure that this abuse -- and that's what I consider it, an abuse of power by Mr. Trump -- does not go without very close review and challenge. (END AUDIO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He mentioned about the Russians that was not, but -- so he's talking about the security clearance there. Trump has the unilateral authority to revoke his security clearance, right. GOODSTEIN: Of course. Absolutely. Right, he does. And do I think John Brennan is going to be compromised in whatever he does in his life from this point on by not having a security clearance? INGRAHAM: No. It doesn't matter. INGRAHAM: No. I mean, he worked for presidents of both parties for decades. He was a resource that he's now not going to be able to give the United States. BOSSI: But first he should be happy about it. GOODSTEIN: The problem with pulling a security clearance is he's basically saying, you talk against me, and you're going to get -- your first amendment rights to free speech and free press, that is what all this -- that's what you talked about in your opening segment. BOSSI: There are plenty of folks out in this country who are critical of this president, that the president doesn't have a problem with about whatever they say. But you can't be the leader of the resistance movement, the group of Americans that hate this country and this president, and still hold a security clearance. GOODSTEIN: Well, I think -- BOSSI: You cannot do that -- GOODSTEIN: They can if you know what he knows about what the threats are from abroad. He is scared to death because of that. BOSSI: This guy is a political hack. He's nothing more or less. He's a political hack who should be chairman of the DNC, not of a national security -- INGRAHAM: Yes, how can you tell the difference between like John Brennan and any host on MSNBC? BOSSI: You can't. INGRAHAM: So Nicole Wallace had him on today and she asked him, look, do you think that Trump could be beholden to a third-party other than the American people? And he's like, well, it could be the Russians but I don't know, and I don't know what Mueller -- he was like saying, "I don't know, I don't know, I don't know." And it was just -- it was the most rank speculation from a former CIA chief! It's just wrong. It is wrong. GOODSTEIN: Because actually -- I think he knows a lot more than we know. INGRAHAM: No, no, he doesn't. Listen to what Nicole Wallace tried to get him to say. And he was like, "Well, it could be but I don't know of anything but Mueller is looking into it." He had a big nothing and I'm telling you. It was hilarious. I was watching it with a producer, I was like, what the heck did he just say? It didn't make any sense. But he's like -- he's like a pundit, that's fine. He can do that. But I think the CIA suffers greatly. BOSSI: You don't need a security clearance to be a pundit. INGRAHAM: You know what I think, aside from Brennan, all these security clearances should be temporary. There shouldn't be never-ending security clearance -- BOSSI: That's right. Look, Peter Strzok still has his security clearance. The president needs to go down -- INGRAHAM: Peter Strzok still has his whole security clearance? BOSSI: That's what I understand. So, look, we need -- INGRAHAM: OK, that's what I heard as well tonight. BOSSI: The president needs to go down that long list of folks who are out there across this country leading the resistance movement as enemy, in my opinion, what they have done is damaged this country's national security. GOODSTEIN: My answer to that is, you've got people like Omarosa feeling (ph) the federal government. You've got people like John Brennan who have worked for decades -- BOSSI: (Inaudible). GOODSTEIN: -- for multiple presidents. He worked for Bush, he worked for Reagan, come on. He worked -- INGRAHAM: Yes, during 9/11. GOODSTEIN: OK. And my point is, that he's a resource, if you want to say you are cut loose, that's a price that the country pays. It's not a price that he's paying. BOSSI: So we're grateful for his services and I'm glad he's gone. INGRAHAM: I think he should -- everyone should have to re-apply for security clearances. Why should it be like a never ending security clearance? It's just a total scam. BOSSI: And I'm glad the president stood up for the process of our national security today and took it. INGRAHAM: He should go down the whole list, and it's not an enemy list. BOSSI: It is. That's right. INGRAHAM: It's people who -- you've moved on to something else, that's fine. GOODSTEIN: The problem is it looks like an enemy list. BOSSI: No. GOODSTEIN: That's the way he's going about it. Michael Flynn, I think, still has security clearance, right? He has confessed to a felony. BOSSI: When you are the leader of the resistance movement in this country, people in the streets being violent and burning down buildings, this is outrageous. INGRAHAM: They love Brennan. You got to believe the Antifa people for now. They don't like Brennan, but for now he's an enemy of my enemy is a friend. So Antifa and (ph) Brennan right now. GOODSTEIN: If he's going after Flynn -- strip Flynn, that is his skirts (ph) are clean, but he can't -- INGRAHAM: OK, take Flynn. I don't care. GOODSTEIN: Fine. Exactly. But the fact that he can't do that shows that it is an -- BOSSI: That's not that he can't do it. He did one today. INGRAHAM: All right. Don't tease us. We got to get more. We still have a few more days in the week. Guys, thanks so much. And the intelligence community is generally apolitical as we said, but Brennan has been one of the president's harshest critics, regularly making appearances, media sounding more like a far left pundit of course, than a former spy chief. Joining me now, someone who has been very critical of Brennan, Congressman Ron DeSantis, the Republican nominee in Florida's gubernatorial election. Congressman, is it fair to revoke a security clearance? I mean, John Brennan, the list of jobs, Congressman, he's had for the government, and he is just trying to protect the United States, don't you see, from perpetual Russian interference, from the puppet known as our current president. I mean, that's basically what he said today. REP. RON DESANTIS (R), FLORIDA: Of course, he is just this great public servant. Please! First of all, he shouldn't have a security clearance even if he did do a good job and even if he had been apolitical, but his conduct I think has been a joke. I think it's damaged the intelligence community. And his tenure as both the National Terrorism chief but then also at CIA was very unproductive and disastrous. He did not do a good job identifying ISIS as a rising threat, and of course, was somebody helping to facilitate the disastrous deal with Iran. So his performance wasn't good. So I don't think he would be a guy you would even want to get advice from, even if he wasn't such a partisan hack. But the fact that he launches those wild accusations on twitter, it's just not conduct becoming of somebody who has been in those high positions. INGRAHAM: Well, I have to say, a short while ago on -- this was on CNN, Anderson Cooper interviewed Michael Hayden about all of this, and he had this to say about Brennan's effectiveness. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL HAYDEN, FORMER CIA: It was personal and it was vindictive and frankly, I think it was an overall judgment that John was being somewhat effective. The White House just messaged the entire American intelligence community, if you stand up and say things that upset the president or with which he disagrees, he will punish you. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I first thought he was in a prison there. They actually sent a camera crew to Speed when I first thought he was in a prison there. They actually sent a camera crew to Dulles Airport. He is like on the way to vacation. That is how important it was for CNN to get -- but he said it's a sign that he was being somewhat effective. At what? Undermining the president? What is he effective at? He lied to the -- Dianne Feinstein, the CIA spied on a senate committee, the computers of a senate committee. He lied about it. He should not have a security clearance just for that fact. Where is Dianne Feinstein when you need her help? DESANTIS: Yes, I know. The thing is, this idea that the intelligence community, you are sending a message to them, it's not the role of the intelligence community, particularly people who are active now to be launching political attacks. They are supposed to be -- many of them are professional, but the idea that you are an activist as an intelligence official, it is not the type of intelligence that we want. We want people who are apolitical and obviously we have seen in the whole fall out of this Russia thing. When you have people like Brennan, when you have people like Peter Strzok, when you have people like Andrew McCabe, who are behaving politically, you know, that really distorts some of the powers -- the use of some of the powers that the government has. INGRAHAM: Congressman, on a separate issue, today Governor Andrew Cuomo from New York made a comment that made me stop in my tracks. As part of the Democrats, I think desire to turn out the vote, get people registered, oh, my god, (inaudible) and they are freaking out I think because they see the economy rising so high and they still have to create a sense of panic. But this is what he said. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GOVERNOR ANDREW CUOMO (D), NEW YORK: We are not going to make America great again. It was never that great. We have not reached greatness. We will reach greatness when every American is fully engaged. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The president just tweeted out, "Can you believe that this is the governor of the highest taxed state in the United States, Andrew Cuomo having a total meltdown." He just literally tweeted that. Your reaction to that? He kind of tried to clarify and he apologized. Congressman, your reaction, really quick. DESANTIS: Well, it's just absurd. I mean, you know, some of the great things that the United States has done -- we've done things that no other country has done. I think the country is a great country. I think we are in the right track now more so than we were the last eight years. New York is on the wrong track and people are fleeing his state because of his bad policies. INGRAHAM: Congressman, thanks so much. And the FBI investigated Hillary Clinton and President Trump's campaign but who's going to investigate the FBI? Republican Senator Lindsey Graham has a bold idea. He joins us next with details. INGRAHAM: The White House isn't alone in its campaign to bring accountability to bad actors within the FBI and the intel community. And now key members of the senate are ramping up their own efforts to do so. Fox News correspondent Kristin Fisher is here on that, but she begins with more detail on the Brennan affair today. Kristin? KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Laura. Well, President Trump has been threatening to do this for weeks but I think a few thought that he would actually do it. Even House Speaker Paul Ryan had initially dismissed this as in trolling people. But today, he did it. President Trump revoked the security clearance of former CIA director John Brennan. Now Democrats, they have been using words like Nixonian, illegal, a gross abuse of power, but the White House press secretary says the president is well within its constitutional authority to do it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARAH SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Mr. Brennan has recently leveraged his status as a former high-ranking official with access to highly sensitive information to make a series of unfounded and outrageous and allegations, wild outburst on the internet and television about this administration. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: And this may be only the beginning. The White House says it is considering taking similar action against people like James Comey and Susan Rice. So, here you have the White House potentially going after the security clearances of several former top national security and law enforcement officials. At the same time, you have Republican Senator Lindsey Graham urging action against the entire Justice Department. He wants a special counsel to investigate why a DOJ official, Bruce Ohr, was allowed to investigate then candidate Trump while Ohr's wife worked for the opposition research firm that produced that now infamous dossier. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: These investigations against Trump were corrupt to the core. They gave Clinton a pass. Bruce Ohr was at least unethical. We need a special counsel to look at all things Department of Justice and FBI when it came to the Trump investigation, particularly the counterintelligence investigation. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: And I should mention that Bruce Ohr was one of the people that the White House press secretary said was on the list of people that they are considering to potentially revoke a security clearance, Laura? INGRAHAM: Kristin, thanks so much. And lo and behold, here -- do you see him on the (inaudible)? And you see him here, Lindsey Graham. GRAHAM: I don't know you would but I agree with every word. INGRAHAM: I don't know about that guy in the tape. GRAHAM: I got to go. INGRAHAM: So, tell us about Brennan. I mean, you are on board with this idea. I think you were one of the people who also thought it was a pretty good idea. GRAHAM: Well, here's what I think. You can be the former CIA director or critic of the president. You just can't leave the resistance movement at the same time. If you look at CIA policy about how a former director should act, he is well over the line. INGRAHAM: Yeah, well, he has -- GRAHAM: They have actually a policy about this. INGRAHAM: Well, he had a history of lying, of the senate investigation -- on that, about what he did with the senate staff. They were spying on the computers and has had lied about it and Dianne Feinstein found out about it. GRAHAM: If this administration share anything with him as much as he hates them. He really thinks Trump is worse than every enemy we have, so I just think the way he's carried himself hurts the intelligence committee. INGRAHAM: Let's talk about your idea for a special counsel to investigate the Justice Department. GRAHAM: Yes. INGRAHAM: How would that work and what are your grounds? GRAHAM: Well, number one, I'm tired of getting on T.V. and telling you all the bad things. I want somebody who is not a politician. Let's put the shoe on the other foot. What do you think Democrats would be saying if a Republican - - if RNC hired a former British agent to go to Russia to get dirt on Clinton? Do you think they would be wanting to look at whether or not there was a crime? If a FISA warrant was issued based on document prepared by a foreign agent hat is a bunch of political garbage? So, I am tired of telling everybody in the country how bad this is. Have somebody to do for the FBI and the FISA warrant process what Mueller is doing for Trump. INGRAHAM: What would it entail and who would be subject to this review within -- you can't investigate the whole FBI, but there is a core within the FBI. Bruce Ohr, the fact that -- does he still have a security clearance? I mean, I guess he does because they're considering -- GRAHAM: The Clinton e-mail investigation was a joke. INGRAHAM: From the beginning. GRAHAM: They were in the tank. They had a bias against Trump and for Clinton and if you had done what she had done, we would not be talking here. INGRAHAM: Would you still be a member of the (inaudible)? GRAHAM: I would be court-martialed. INGRAHAM: Right. GRAHAM: There are people sitting in jail doing far less than her so I want somebody to look at how the Clinton e- mail investigation was conducted. Why it was dismissed and the FISA warrant -- every American should be concerned about the rule of law and I think the FISA warrant process was horribly abused and may be in a criminal fashion. INGRAHAM: Could the judges who were sitting and reviewing that application for the search warrant -- GRAHAM: Right. INGRAHAM: -- for the wiretap of Carter Page, is there any process within the FISA courts to review that again? I mean, if I were the judge and they didn't tell me that the opposition candidate -- not just an opposition -- but the candidate paid for that dossier, which was a critical part, if not the most critical part. GRAHAM: So there's a footnote in there that is a reference that this guy may have political motives. They never told the court -- INGRAHAM: Of course not. GRAHAM: -- that he was on the payroll of the DNC. INGRAHAM: But what about that judge? What about the judges who -- GRAHAM: I would be really upset. INGRAHAM: But couldn't -- I guess there is no way to go back and unwiretap somebody, but there should be like sanctions and there should be an ability to issue sanctions against of the Justice Department officials who signed off on this. GRAHAM: Somebody has to watch those who watch us, and Mr. Horowitz is a good guy but he doesn't have the power of a prosecutor. The corruption at the Department of Justice and the FBI regarding the Clinton e-mail investigation, the early stages of the Trump-Russia investigation were corrupt to the core and I think somebody needs to look at it outside of politics. If Mr. Rosenstein is watching, what more has to happen for you to be convinced that somebody outside your organization needs to look to make sure that we clean up the mess? INGRAHAM: James Clapper tonight said our discussion of this, the constant criticism of FBI and intel is undermining those hallowed institutions. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMES CLAPPER, FORMER U.S. DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: But I spent a good part of my life, 50 plus years, 34 of it in the military defending this country and its values and standards and institutions, which I feel, as do the others involved here, are under serious assault. And this is going to get worse before it gets better, I predict. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So it's Trump's fault or Republicans fault for questioning how this whole investigation, how the special counsel was appointed, Comey set up with the whole thing -- you can't question it. If you question it, you are undermining the authority or integrity. What about the integrity undermined by them? That's outrageous. GRAHAM: What bothers me is not one Democrat seems to be concerned that the people in charge of the Clinton email investigation clearly were in the tank for Clinton and hated Trump. Nobody seems to be concerned that a political document prepared by a political party using a foreign agent to go to a foreign country to get information on a political candidate was used to get a warrant. Nobody seems to be concerned about it. I have been in the military for 33 years. I love the FBI. I'm very concerned about what I have seen. INGRAHAM: Senator, birth tourism in the United States, birthright citizenship, the president hasn't talked all that much about that. He did in the campaign. GRAHAM: He should. INGRAHAM: It's become a huge problem in this country. Ads in Russia, in China, we'll get you a U.S. passport, come here, have a baby, we'll put you up. We'll find you a doctor, we'll get you a passport made for your baby. Bingo, it's done. How does this get turned around? GRAHAM: I think you need to change the laws. If you go to France and have a child, you are not a French citizen. But people abuse our laws. They actually get tourist visas close to the delivery date. They come to a resort with a maternity ward just to have the child in America. INGRAHAM: We want to have you back to get into that further because I think it is a massive, massive scandal. Thank you so much, Senator Graham. And the P.C. mob is tearing apart a new TV show's title, while the Catholic Church under fire after a damning, horrific report on abuse in Pennsylvania. That in our "Seen and Unseen" segment with Raymond Arroyo next. INGRAHAM: It's time now for our "Seen and Unseen" segment, where we expose what's behind the big cultural stories of the day. First, a new show on Bravo has the P.C. crowd so worked up they're about to smash their screens in rage, I tell you. For more, we are joined by FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series, Raymond Arroyo. Tell us about this new Jerry O'Connell talk show. Why is the title so offensive? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Jerry O'Connell, the film star, is a fan of Bravo's programming. This is a ploy to get men to watch Bravo. INGRAHAM: Does he have a show on Bravo? ARROYO: He's going to have a show. It's called "Real Men Watch Bravo," except there was a huge reaction to that. They said the title is misogynistic, homophobic. I don't quite understand how it's homophobic, but nonetheless, Jerry O'Connell and the producers of the show decided we are changing the title, and Jerry came out to explain why. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JERRY O'CONNELL, ACTOR: We change the title of the show. It's no longer the aforementioned title. It is now called "Bravo's Play-By-Play," and it's basically a panel of three of us and we sort of break down everything that happened that week on Bravo. It is sort of like a "SportsCenter" for Bravo highlights. Bravo, it saved my marriage with my wife. It's our passion. It's what we talked about. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: I have news for Jerry. Men, real or otherwise, are not going to watch the "Shahs of Sunset" or the "Beverly Hills Housewives." We're not interested in that. If it hunts or there is a ball being thrown, we'll watch. INGRAHAM: That's misogynistic, Raymond. ARROYO: No, it's not misogynistic. Men like some programming, women like other things. INGRAHAM: I've met Jerry O'Connell. He's actually a really nice guy. ARROYO: OK, but you can't take women's programming. It is like trying to get men to watch Hallmark. INGRAHAM: On Lifetime TV, there is always a woman pushing a man down the stairs or vice versa. Someone is always getting pushed down the stairs. ARROYO: And men aren't watching that either. INGRAHAM: Real men don't watch Bravo. ARROYO: I've got to get to this other thing. Remember earlier this summer, we talked about Chris Hardwick, he's the host of AMC's "Talking Dead." He was removed from that show and his other talk show pulled from a schedule because of abuse allegations made against him by a former girlfriend. AMC did a thorough review. This week they returned him from the metaphorical dead to host "Talking Dead," and it was an emotional return. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS HARDWICK, TELEVISION HOST: I want to thank you, the "Walking Dead" community, for all the support to these last couple months. The show was not just a job to me. This is a vital part of my life, and this has been a sanctuary. These last seven years we've been here, this has been with me through good times and bad times, and I have so much gratitude to you, the fans. And I have said the following words a million times, countless times, and that I have never been more thankful that I am in this very moment to say to you, that I am Chris Hardwick and this is "Talking Dead." (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: So what you are seeing here is a man who saw his career flash before his eyes. This was handled the right way. They did dismiss him from the show, they pulled the show from the schedule. But after a quick investigation, they returned him back -- INGRAHAM: Not everybody -- ARROYO: The allegations were not true. INGRAHAM: Not everybody who is accused is guilty. That's the problem with some of these 20-year-old allegations. Some of them are, some of them aren't. ARROYO: The Me Too rush to judgment I worry about it because you have guys like this who are innocent. INGRAHAM: I confess, I have never heard of him in my life. I don't even recognize him. I have no idea who he is. ARROYO: Now you have. INGRAHAM: By the way, from false allegations of abuse come up to all too real ones. Raymond, you've covered the Vatican for decades now. Tell us about this grand jury report in Pennsylvania. This is devastating. You and I are both Catholics. ARROYO: This is horrible. We'll put up this graphic. We are talking about 300 what the grand jury calls predator priests exposed in this report. Over 1,000 child victims. These cases spanned 70 years, remember, from 1947 to the present. INGRAHAM: How was it all coming out now? ARROYO: It's coming out now because the grand jury was charged with looking at all the denominations in Pennsylvania and doing a report and investigation of it. They decided to focus only on the Catholic Church but I don't quite understand, because when you look across denominations, there's kind of an equal -- INGRAHAM: And public schools. ARROYO: Public schools, the protestant church -- INGRAHAM: Locker rooms. ARROYO: But let's put that aside for a minute. This shows heinous disregard for victims, a callousness toward what these victims were going through. They covered up these offenses, they hid them, they reassigned, putting more kids in danger. This is unconscionable. Cardinal Wuerl is mentored in this. He was the bishop of Pittsburgh. He was interviewed this past week about his predecessor or successor -- predecessor, rather, Cardinal McCarrick. And they asked him, is this a crisis in the church? Listen to what he said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CARDINAL DONALD WUERL, ARCHBISHOP OF WASHINGTON: I don't think this is a massive, massive crisis. It was a terrible disappointment. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For all of us, for you, for me. He was a friend to us. WUERL: So we are saying now, well, what do we do in the future to see there's a mechanism so if somebody wants to say something about a bishop, they have a place to go. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let me ask another question. I think something that is emerging from all of this is the care of bishops before bishops. And I think that is something that has to be addressed, is how bishops care for their brother bishops, cardinals from their brother cardinals. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That is Father Tom Rosica. He is a Vatican consultant on communications, worrying about bishops to bishops. What about the victims? Here's what needs to happen, Laura. We need an independent, lay run, forensic audit, a financial audit, of every diocese in the United States, and maybe the world. And then you need a lay panel, empowered by the Vatican of prosecutors, independent prosecutors, with canonical officials, cardinals, to investigate every diocese. They should make canonical referrals as well as criminal referrals. Clean house. INGRAHAM: Clean out every last bishop and cardinal who knew about this and transferred people -- ARROYO: Or were a part of this. INGRAHAM: I don't understand how the Cardinal Mahony is still rolling about the west coast, where there's a lot of people out there who, I'm telling you something -- ARROYO: There are a lot of questions that need to be asked, and Catholics are looking for blood. INGRAHAM: And Wuerl saying this is not a crisis -- what? What are you talking about? We've got to explain this to our children, and this has got to be get cleaned up. I am livid about this. ARROYO: This is as bad as I have seen it in 20 years, and Catholics want answers. INGRAHAM: Raymond, thank you. And one of America's most celebrated black athletes is now comparing the National Anthem, get this, to songs of slavery? Details after this. INGRAHAM: When the opportunity strikes the left and their celebrity brethren are happy to tarnish American symbols and American history in any way they can. Case in point, NBA champion, star Kareen Abdul Jabbar who is now comparing the U.S. National Anthem to songs of slavery. In a new column for the "Hollywood Reporter" he writes, quote, "To the slave owners singing slaves would drown out their own cruelty and oppression, clothe them in a coerced choir of decency. But it wasn't enough that the slaves had to sing. The had to sing their oppressors' feel- good songs. Currently the song being demanded is the National Anthem during football games." Joining me now with reaction, Project 21 cochair Horace Cooper along with criminal defense attorney Anthony Tall. Great to see both of you. Let's start with you, Anthony. Help me with a connection here. I am having trouble making the connection from the National Anthem to the songs of slavery. ANTHONY HALL, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, what he is saying is that generally, African-Americans slavery had to sing songs to kind of show that they are happy during their -- although they were oppressed and they were doing horrible labor jobs, and forced labor, they were doing forced labor - - so what he is saying is, he is comparing the National Anthem with -- INGRAHAM: Anthony, I get what he is doing. You are just restating what he says. My point is, NFL players are playing my favorite game, I love football, and they are getting paid fairly well, some cases millions of dollars, and they love the game. So they are not being oppressed, and I know there is a social justice causes, I get that. But slavery and football -- that -- it's just -- even if you love the celebrities and you - - I get that. But sometimes the left goes overboard. And the right does it, too. But you lose people by going there. And I think it is sad because Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is an incredible athlete, an incredible person, but I don't -- I just think you lose people with making those jumps. TALL: I don't think he is going too far. I don't think is going too far. I think all he is saying is he's just comparing, you have a league where you have 99 percent white owners, and then you have the president demanding that they stand up. Regardless of how much money you make, if you feel as if you are being forced to do something that is reminding you of an oppressive past -- INGRAHAM: No, no, no. You don't have to play football. No one -- leave the game if you don't like what you're owners and your coaches are asking. Their coaches make them run suicides every day. They don't want that to mike to do that half the time either. I used to be in college sports. TALL: AThey don't mind doing that. INGRAHAM: You have to do -- there are rules, they signed a contract. Horace, go ahead. HORACE COOPER, CO-CHAIR, PROJECT 21: The one percenters sitting out there on the field want us to believe that that their experience is the same as people who were held captive, kidnapped, brought to work, and forced, and not allowed to have any freedom, that that is the same, that when we honor our country with the National Anthem it is the same as when one percenters who are paid by the 0.0001 percent ask them not to offend the audience, that that is somehow in any way akin to slavery. What you do is you lose people. You make sure that the public doesn't want to watch football and that people don't join this particular crusade. TALL: Horace, Horace, Horace, Horace, what are you talking about? Did you just hear LeBron James the other day say it doesn't matter how much money you have or who you are, when you are black in America, there is a feeling of being reminded that you are black. There is a feeling of being reminded -- COOPER: That is ridiculous! That is absolutely ridiculous! TALL: So don't give me this about the one percent. COOPER: That is absolutely ridiculous. TALL: Don't give me this about this one percent. COOPER: Because they are the one percent. Because they are the one percent. TALL: It doesn't matter if they are the one percent! If they can't walk on the straight and feel dignified, it doesn't matter how much money they have. COOPER: It absolutely matters. They are Americans, black, white, and brown, who suffer and who are deprived, and who do without, and those people aren't getting any of the attention. TALL: Horace, Horace, Horace -- INGRAHAM: Guys, hold on, no one can hear either of you. So you are both making interesting points but no one can hear either of you. I have to ask one question though. The piece, which is well written as a column, I might not agree with it but it is very well-crafted, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar mentions Frederick Douglass, of course, who is one of my absolute favorite historical figures. And he mentions him but then Frederick Douglass is the same person who frequently played "The Star- Spangled Banner" on his violin for his family. So he frequently played it on his violin for his grandchildren in the years after the war. He said in an 1871 speech at Arlington Cemetery, if "The Star-Spangled Banner" floats only over free American citizens in every corner of the land, and our country has before it a long and glorious career of justice, liberty, and civilization, we are indebted to the unselfish devotion of the noble army. I think using Frederick Douglass in the column is kind of misplaced. But go ahead. TALL: Laura, Laura, this isn't a zero-sum game. You can be of any race in America, that is the beauty of America, and there's sometimes you can feel ashamed to sing the song. There are sometimes when black people are getting shot down on the street that you don't feel as if -- I'm talking about getting shot down by police -- that you don't feel like that National Anthem has risen to its standard. Now obviously during the civil rights movement -- INGRAHAM: Martin Luther King marched to the American flag. TALL: -- lived up to our Constitution. Those were great times that we want to sing the National Anthem. This isn't a zero-sum game. INGRAHAM: Alveda king, we talked to today, she couldn't join us tonight, but Alveda said, her uncle was extremely patriotic, and all the marches you see with the American flag is always there. He always insisted that it be there. That was her point today. Horace? TALL: I agree. COOPER: Laura, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and these multimillionaire, coddled individuals that rather than using -- TALL: Why are you talking about the money? COOPER: Let me finish. Rather than using their time constructively to pursue whatever social justice causes they want, have decided that they hate this country so much that they will offend it with the National Anthem is played. TALL: That's not what they're saying. COOPER: That will lose. That is not going to persuade. INGRAHAM: I don't think they hate the country. I really don't think they hate the country. COOPER: This is hateful behavior. INGRAHAM: I don't think they hate the country. I think they really, really got it in their minds that the police are unfair to African- Americans. COOPER: If you slap your spouse and you say I love them, people -- if or when the National Anthem is played you act this way -- TALL: Laura. Laura. INGRAHAM: Guy's we've got to go. We are way over. I think it would be nice if everyone stood for the Anthem and have a debate off the field, I think that is always better. But great segment. A Christian baker, by the way, is now the target of a political vendetta. How the legal profession is being weaponized against Christian Americans, next. INGRAHAM: Remember Jack Phillips, the Christian baker who faced legal action for refusing to break that same- sex wedding cake? He won a major case of the Supreme Court two months ago, but get this, Colorado Civil Rights commission has once again ruled that he violated the law when he refused to bake a cake for a transgender woman celebrating the seventh anniversary of her gender transition. In response, Phillips is suing top Colorado officials including Governor John Hickenlooper. Joining me now from Colorado is Jack Phillips himself, as well as his lawyer, Kristen Waggoner from Phoenix. Jack, let's start with you. Do you feel this is now a vendetta against your bakeshop? Apparently you are the only bakeshop in all of Colorado because all the focus is on you. But do you feel like this is now, you're being targeted? JACK PHILLIPS, MASTERPIECE CAKESHOP OWNER: It feels like being targeted. The Colorado Civil Rights Commission is coming after me again after the United States Supreme Court has told them that they were hostile to my faith, and that they can't do that. And yet here we are again, the same situation. INGRAHAM: So did a transgendered individual, she came to your bakeshop and said, will you bake a cake? And for a specific -- how did the transaction or potential transaction go down? PHILLIPS: This was actually on the day last year that the United States Supreme Court announced that they were granting our case, and they were going to hear it. And so this Colorado attorney called my shop and asked us to make pink and blue cake signifying their gender transition. INGRAHAM: Wait a second, wait a second. The Colorado attorney? We didn't even get a visit to the cakeshop, the bakeshop -- am I saying the wrong -- PHILLIPS: Right, cakeshop. INGRAHAM: The transgendered person didn't walk in and say, hey, how're you doing Jack, could you make me -- it was a lawyer who called you? PHILLIPS: It was a lawyer who called us. INGRAHAM: That's ridiculous. PHILLIPS: Even asked when we tried to explain that we could sell them anything else in our shop or create other customer work, they asked us to repeat it. INGRAHAM: So they are creating the predicate for the action. Kristen, this is amazing. The court granted the case last year, he won a victory in the Supreme Court, and now this. So you guys are suing the civil rights commission, correct? And are you suing individual members as well? KRISTEN WAGGONER, ATTORNEY FOR JACK PHILLIPS: Yes, we are suing the executive director. The Supreme Court made it abundantly clear that the commission was wrong to target Jack's beliefs, and that they treated other cake artists differently than Jack by allowing them to decline messages but refusing Jack that same freedom. INGRAHAM: I am like, my breath is taken away by that. So now, how long will it take for you to get relief or not relief there, and is this going to go back to the Supreme Court? It seems like -- the goal here is to put jack out of business, right? WAGGONER: It definitely is. INGRAHAM: It is so unbearable to do his job, this is what he loves, the creative art, you serve gay and other couples freely in your shop. You make cakes for them. It's just particular weddings, or in this case, transgender transition, which you don't believe in, I'm sure millions of Americans probably agree with you. PHILLIPS: There are a lot of cakes that we don't create. We'll do many -- we'll serve anybody who comes into the shop gladly. But there are many cakes that we don't create. Cakes that say anti-American or that would disparage or denigrate other people, including people who identify as LGBT. Those are cakes that we won't to create because the message that is cakes per tray, not because of the person who is ordering. INGRAHAM: Kristin, the Supreme Court ruling didn't give you a clear ruling, however. It was not right in the nose, really quickly, your thought on that? WAGGONER: It was right in the nose when it comes to the commission's hostility and its denigration of Jack's faith and its double standard in how it's treating cake designers that it likes. And in addition to that, Colorado took the position that if he wouldn't express that message to anyone, he didn't need to be compelled here. So they are going to lose. INGRAHAM: We are going to follow this case. Thank you both for coming out tonight. We really appreciate it. We'll be right back. INGRAHAM: Tomorrow night's show, we have an unbelievable lineup. We're going to talk to Rand Paul, special Thursday edition of "Friday Follies." Did you know that you can get macaroni straws to save the whales? Not kidding. By the way, there is a blackout at Reagan Airport, at DCA tonight. Look at this. What? This happened last year, in Atlanta. Nice infrastructure of the United States has. Glad we spent $7 trillion in the Middle East and the Iraq War. Guys that's all the time we have tonight, but we love hearing from you. Tweet me @IngrahamAngle. Load-Date: August 16, 2018 End of Document Media's Omarosa Obsession; Day Eleven of Paul Manafort's Trial; Exposing the Real Russia Collusion; Many People Have Weighed in on the Firing of Peter Strzok that they Say It is Just Right that the Bureau Fired Him over His Bias to President Trump and Giving Favor to Hillary Clinton; New Gallup Poll Shows that Democrats Now View Socialism more Positively than Capitalism; Judge in Taos, New Mexico under Fire after Letting Go of the Adults in a New Mexico Compound Alleged to have been Training Children to Kill Law Enforcement and Conduct School Shootings Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 14, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7697 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Ed Henry, Gregg Jarrett, Sebastian Gorka Guests: David Schoen, Mark Penn, Dan Bongino Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: I'm just a radio guy, Tucker. So, for me, hitting the post is like -- it's important. You go 15 seconds long, 15 seconds short. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Those seconds are my gift to you. HANNITY: Listen, we love you. The show is great. That's all that matters. CARLSON: Thank you. HANNITY: All right, Tucker. And welcome to HANNITY. Busy breaking news night again tonight, day four of the mainstream media's Omarosa obsession. Well, the country is now facing so many serious issues, both home and abroad, the destroy Trump press is running wall-to-wall with coverage of a fired White House staffer with an old grudge, a new book and a lifetime of credibility issues. In moments, we'll expose the extent of the media's blatant Trump bias. We actually have time and numbers and we'll compare it for you. And also tonight, well, the trial of the century is almost over. After 11 days, the tax and bank fraud case against Paul Manafort from 2005 is now ready for closing arguments. Hours ago, the defense rested in the case. Not a single witness called. We're going to explain why this is not necessarily good news for team Mueller whose sloppy prosecution tactics have frequently earned the ire of the federal judge overseeing this case. And meanwhile, a vast majority of you, the American people, you are telling Robert Mueller tonight, wrap it up. We'll show you the polls. We also have a new report raising serious questions about real Russia collusion tied exactly to the Clinton campaign. Robert Mueller, you and your team of merry Democratic donors, you may want to listen up tonight. All right. Buckle up, busy breaking news night. We're also following some election news as we begin with our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. So much breaking news across the country, including multiple primaries in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Connecticut and Vermont, along with ongoing congressional investigations into the deep state. We have huge strong economic numbers to give you tonight and much more. But your mainstream media just can't get enough of Omarosa. For now the fourth day across all platforms, your destroy Trump media highlighting what is the salacious claims, untrue accusations, secret recordings from, yes, Omarosa, a person fired three times from a reality show and, by the way, once from the White House where she was hired by Donald Trump, and according to General Kelly, because of serious credibility and character issues. That's not brought up very often. And none of this seems to matter to the crisis peddlers seven days a week, 24 hours a day, minute-by minute, hour by hour on so-called news networks. By the way, we're now on hour 72-plus what is only -- can only be described as the Omarosa reality show. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Breaking news in our politics lead in the ugly war of words between President Trump and Omarosa Manigault Newman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa Manigault Newman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa Manigault Newman. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa Manigault Newman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, he said/she said between the president and Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Guys, buckle up, here is just part of my interview with Omarosa Manigault Newman. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa Manigault Newman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think Omarosa was anywhere near any inner circle of the campaign. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I have to admit, it's a little humorous, but this kind of obsessive anti-Trump coverage, it's nothing new. In fact, this echo chamber it never stops. It just moves crisis to crisis, second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day, 24/7, 365. We've got the evidence. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now they will certainly face questions about Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Stormy saga takes a dramatic turn. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels' lawyer. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We haven't heard from him about the Stormy Daniels affair. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Adult film star breaking her silence about her alleged affair with President Trump. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're talking I think understandably and appropriately about the most serious legal allegations that Stormy Daniels made. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am a proud (EXPLETIVE DELETED) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. We are not all created equal. At least if you are not born in as the president put it a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) country. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The word house instead of hole, as in (EXPLETIVE DELETED) house countries, not (EXPLETIVE DELETED) hole countries. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I guess is he a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) holler. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there a difference if the president said (EXPLETIVE DELETED) hole or (EXPLETIVE DELETED) house? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think these countries are (EXPLETIVE DELETED) holes? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Donald Trump has turned the Oval Office into a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) holers built this country 110 years ago. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a president (EXPLETIVE DELETED) hole comments yesterday. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, today is no different. The compulsive coverage continues during the White House press briefing. And, of course, Press Secretary Sarah Sanders responding to all of this a pretty powerful rebuttal. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Unfortunately, the individuals in this room continue to create a large platform for somebody they know not to have a lot of credibility for someone they frankly refused to give a platform to when they worked here at the White House. It wasn't until this individual started to negatively attack this president and this administration and try to tear this entire place down that she received the type of platform and rollout that she is getting. I think it would be great if every single person in this room and every single person in the administration never had to talk about this again and we actually got to focus on the real policies and the real things that not matter just to people in this building but certainly all Americans, African-Americans, Hispanics, and everybody in between. I think that would be the best thing that we could certainly do for our country. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And tonight, our friends at the Media Research Center, they're backing up what you just heard from Sarah Sanders. Their research shows that during their broadcast last night, the morning shows, today, ABC, CBS, NBC, they dedicated approximately 344 percent more time covering Omarosa than they did covering the firing of FBI agent Peter Strzok. That's more than triple the reporting for salacious rumors over what is serious news about what is a corrupt, high ranking FBI official fired because of his massive bias and corruption, at the heart of everything from Hillary, to General Flynn, to the beginning of the Russia-Trump hoax. And today, as he often does, the president bypassed the partisan press in the country. He took his message right to you, the American people. He tweeted out, quote: Fired FBI agent Peter Strzok is a fraud, as is the rigged investigation that he started. There was no collusion or obstruction with Russia, and everybody, including the Democrats, know it. The only collusion and obstruction was by crooked Hillary, the Democrats, the DNC. And tonight, a new report is now bolstering the president's claim. Real Clear Investigations, they are shows serious questions now being raised about Fusion GPS founder Glen Simpson and the shadowy Russian figures who attended the now infamous 2016 Trump Tower meeting. By the way, Robert Mueller, if you're looking for potential Russia collusion, we've got more. It's all right here. Now, we all know Fusion GPS was employed by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. They paid them ultimately to dig up what ended up being Russian dirt on then candidate Donald Trump. Tonight, there are new concerns over another client of Fusion GPS. Well, that's the Russian lawyer who attended that meeting, that everyone has been talking about. She utilized Simpson's services to lobby against Russian sanctions. This plot just keeps thickening and according to testimony, she had dinner with Simpson both before and after the Trump Tower meeting. Sounds like a set-up to me. And because Simpson's relationship with that Kremlin-tied lawyer, Chicago financier named William Browder was, quote, so concerned about Fusion GPS's work on behalf of Russian interest that in July of 2016, he actually lodged a complaint with the DOJ. Let me put it simply. Clinton's op research firm, Fusion GPS, was working on behalf of the DNC, Hillary Clinton and also Russian-backed interests. So, that's right. It's all literally represented by the same person, Glen Simpson. Now, that's exactly as sketchy as it sounds. But, where is the hysteria from the media? This is about stealing a presidential election, lying to the American people with phony Russian information that is paid for by the opposition party candidate and then used for a FISA warrant. Where is the special counsel investigation? Oh, it's not really an investigation into collusion now, is it? It's a partisan witch-hunt against the president. And, frankly, you, the American people, have seen through this and have had enough. Even fake news CNN has a poll that shows, that's right, two thirds of you, the American people, are now calling for Robert Mueller to wrap this garbage up. And this comes as the trial of the century maybe soon be coming to an end. After 11 days, the defense rested in the bank and tax fraud case of Paul Manafort from 2005. They didn't bother calling a single witness. Manafort's legal time apparently believes that the special counsel did not meet their burden. The burden of proof. And they may be right. According to analysis from a Northern Virginia criminal defense attorney, team Mueller was not ready for prime time in Judge Ellis' courtroom. Quote: No matter how strong their evidence, how righteous their cause, how impressive their resumes may be and actually are, they simply have not done a very good job. Clearly, Mueller has and was trying to turn the screws on Manafort as Judge Ellis told us, he never wanted to go to trial. He just wanted Manafort to sing or to compose so that Mueller could give up something or make up something, anything, to then prosecute or impeach Donald Trump. And despite team Mueller's poor performance in court, sadly for Manafort, the odds are stacked against him. The vast majority of federal cases result in a guilty verdict, over 90 percent. This case, for the record, and maybe we'll get even as early as Thursday of this week, a verdict. This case has nothing to do with collusion, nothing to do with Donald Trump, nothing to do with Russia, nothing to do with the election at all. Rod Rosenstein's mandate allowed this. And meanwhile, what do we have? Hillary Clinton committing multiple, serious felonies, crimes? Mishandling top secret information? She obstructed justice when she deleted, of course, subpoenaed emails, watched her hard drives with Bleach Bit, watched them away so they could never be found again, broke up her devices with hammers, fixed and rigged an investigation with Steele's dirty dossier. Remember, that was full of Russian lies and it was peddled to you, the American people. Why? Because they wanted to misinform you, to steal an election. That's called propaganda, misinformation, outright lying to the American people. And that information was then presented to four separate FISA court judges as, quote, credible evidence. Nobody had ever literally verified any of it, corroborated any of it. Nobody has been indicted, investigated by team Mueller regarding Clinton's dirty Russian dossier. This is a disgrace to America's system of justice. And frankly, if we are going to be blunt and honest here, it is a clear and danger to our -- clear and present danger to our constitutional republic. Now, make no mistake, Manafort is found guilty? Your media will have a brand new obsession. Stormy, Stormy, Stormy. Blank hole, blank hole, blank hole, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. And, of course, Omarosa, Omarosa. And, again, we'll be forced to call them out for their shameless, priceless peddling. Yes, journalism in America is dead. But the real fear ought to be whether or not we have a justice system that applies equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws. If this is really about Russia, why are we dealing with a 2005 tax case not related to the campaign or Russia or Donald Trump at all? Why aren't we investigating the dirty dossier with Russian lies that were peddled to the American people? Why aren't we investigating FISA court judges that were absolutely, a fraud was perpetrated on their courts with Russian lies? What about Adam Schiff? Shifty Schiff and he is talking to Russians on the phone. We played it for you. What does he want? Dirt on Donald Trump. And now, we got Fusion GPS, Glen Simpson meeting before and after with the client that met with Don Jr. and company at Trump Tower that the media has made so much of? And also, Russia is a client of his also? You've got to be kidding me. You couldn't put this in a spy novel and have people believe this. Here now, FOX News contributor Sara Carter, civil rights criminal defense attorney David Schoen. Let's start with you, Sara, and all these new developments. I think it's a big deal. We now have been -- we have a lot of new information that's been coming out as it relates to Bruce Ohr. Fusion GPS founder Glen Simpson. Now, we see he had another client and that was Russia, a Russian client. And now we see the before and after the meeting at Trump Tower, he was meeting before and after with that client, that was paying him. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Sean -- yes. So, here you have people like James -- you know, like John Brennan, James Clapper and others peddling complete and outright lies. These things have not been verified, saying that the Russians have information on Trump, that they can blackmail him, putting out this disinformation, not even misinformation, disinformation. And they are aiding Russia in this chaos. But, on the other side, we have insurmountable evidence based on text messages, phone records, documents that, you know, people like in Natalia Veselnitskaya who met at Trump Tower were working for Prevezon Holdings, and guess who they hired? They hired Glen Simpson at Fusion GPS. So, she was connected directly to Glen Simpson. She met with him before and after just as you said. There is direct links to these people. And you know that is where the actual truth is, Sean. This is the evidence that the people are not following and they need to be following. And this is the reason why Congress and why the senators have been so adamant for calling a special counsel to investigate this. It is a complete injustice and if you're looking at it on its face, we can see that there was actually a gain to unseat a duly elected president and, unfortunately. HANNITY: Exactly. That's why the Omarosa obsession and Stormy obsession. CARTER: Exactly. HANNITY: Or whatever -- or the blank hole obsession, whatever it happens to be of the day, it's just, you know, crisis peddling, but ignoring the biggest abuse of power in an attempt to literally steal a presidential election. And, by the way, everyone seems to not care that we know the fix was in. Bernie never had a shot in the primary. Nobody ever seems to talk about that anymore. If I was a Democrat, and I voted for Bernie and I wanted Bernie to win, I would be pretty pissed off. I want to get -- CARTER: Sean, I spoke to a number of Democrats who are angry about that and they know the election was stolen. HANNITY: No one ever talks about. CARTER: That's right, that's right. HANNITY: This is the United States of America still the last time I checked. All right. We're going to be bouncing back and forth. I want to ask you about Bruce Ohr next, Sara, but first, I wanted to bring David into this. David, look, you tried a lot of criminal cases here. I have used the example of Sammy "The Bull" Gravano. Sammy "The Bull" killed 19 people, but he gets a get out of jail free card if he testifies against person X, Y, or Z, and I'm thinking, OK, if I killed 19 people, I don't want to spend the rest of my life in jail. I killed people. It's not exactly like I have a moral compass at all. I'd say whatever you want me to say. Now, the main, the lead prosecution witness in the Manafort case is his partner, Rick Gates. He is an admitted lawyer, embezzler, cheat, involved in everything that supposedly Paul Manafort has done for the most part. He is their star witness who is facing 100 years in jail and everybody else that testified got immunity. That sounds, to me, like -- well, Mueller is basically bribing Rick Gates with a get out of jail free card. And, frankly, I can't put any faith or credibility in anybody that gets off 100 years in jail potentially. DAVID SCHOEN, CIVIL RIGHTS AND CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Right. You hit the nail on the head. This is the currency in which people like Andrew Weissmann and Greg Andres, two lead prosecutors in the Manafort case, for example, have dealt their entire careers. They decide who should be telling the truth in the case and if the story doesn't match from the informant that they would like it to be, they get rid of that person. They deep-six them. If they're willing to play ball and say what Weissmann and Andres and those sort of prosecutors want them to say, then they can play ball. But it's a defense lawyer's job to expose that to the jury. So, the juror should be as offended as you have indicated you are that a person who commits 19 murders or in this case white collar crimes. HANNITY: Well, maybe it comes to the numbers in the accounting. I don't know, 95 percent of federal cases end up in guilty verdicts. So, the odds are with Mueller. SCHOEN: That's right. But, they -- remember, the government has all of the resources. You take a white collar defendant who has never known anyone who spent a day in jail and you put before him or her the prospect of going to jail or having a family member going to jail and people like Weissmann and Andres turn the screws to those family members. They plead guilty whether they're guilty or not. The American public may not believe that. It happens every day in our justice system. HANNITY: But he got a complete get out of jail free card. CARTER: Absolutely. HANNITY: And he was facing at least 100 years in jail. I can't put any credibility in what he says. He's an admitted embezzler. SCHOEN: You gave the example of Sammy the Bull. Those are murders. He was out on the street. Time served. HANNITY: Unbelievable. All right. Let me go back -- again, we are bouncing back and forth. Let's go to the Bruce Ohr and -- because Bruce Ohr is so connected to the news tonight about Fusion GPS having a Russian client, meeting both before and after the Trump Tower meeting. You know, the plot thickens every single day and it literally is Russia, Russia, Russia, but it's not what Mueller is doing, Sara Carter. CARTER: Yes. So, yes, Mueller is not investigating all of these Russian connections with these players that were involved in trying to entrap President Trump or people within his campaign. They are continuing this saga and they haven't shown us any proof that there was any guilt of collusion with the Russians, with the campaign. But, let's just go to Bruce Ohr. We know that Bruce Ohr was in communication with Christopher Steele. A former foreign British spy who was basically peddling Russian disinformation into the FBI. Now, when the FBI realized that Christopher Steele was lying to them, that he had been meeting with the media and actually peddling that information for Glen Simpson, who, remember, also worked for the Russians, to American media, the FBI fired him. But, they wanted to continue propagating these lies. So, Peter Strzok and the others who were in charge of these investigations, went around Christopher Steele. They used Bruce Ohr as a back channel. And his wife, Nellie Ohr, just happened to be working for who? Glen Simpson with Fusion GPS. Sean, there cannot be any more connect the dots than what we are seeing. And it's so unfortunate that we do not have a special -- HANNITY: By the way, 60 meetings between Steele and Ohr at least. CARTER: Seventy, 70 at least. That's what I was told today, 70 at least, now that they've counted all of the Skype messaging back and forth. And remember, they were using it as a back channel. What did they fail to do? The government failed, the FBI failed, and the DOJ to put that in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court application that they issued on Carter Page. HANNITY: How is it legally possible, David, that you have got all of this Russian evidence here on the other side and they ignore it and they go after a 2005 tax case? It has nothing to do with the election. Russia, the president, nothing. How did that mandate spread so wide by the guy that signed the fourth FISA warrant, which is Rod Rosenstein, which is so conflicted? SCHOEN: It's shocking. It's shocking. Look, let me just say also in listening in here. You have all of the facts. No one else spoke about Bruce Ohr before you did. Sara Carter is better than any special counsel could be in this case. The American people have to listen to these facts. You started these stories and you are following through. This is vitally important. How could it have happened? It's an abomination. The FISA court is the most secret court in the country. HANNITY: A fraud. A fraud was committed on the court. SCHOEN: Absolutely dangerous. HANNITY: All right. Look, if we did it -- SCHOEN: Every American is in danger. HANNITY: -- I don't even think you could get me out of jail. All right. Thank you. SCHOEN: Ha, ha, ha. HANNITY: A close confidante of the Clintons agrees with me on most of this. We'll tell you about that. Ed Henry in explosive report involving a prominent Democrat, allegations of abuse. Then, find out which member of the destroy Trump media is the latest to freak out over Peter Strzok's firing. We've got that and Jesse and Jessica and so much more straight ahead. HANNITY: We have more big breaking news tonight involving the deputy chairman of the DNC, Congressman Keith Ellison, and explosive allegations of abuse. FOX News chief national correspondent Ed Henry, he joins us from Washington with the very latest details -- Ed. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Sean, this is not just a back bench congressman. Keith Ellison serves as deputy chair of the Democratic National Committee. So, he's a leader in the party and was supposed to be a rising star on the left because he's the first Muslim- American elected to Congress. But Ellison abruptly left the campaign trail because of these allegations of abuse lodged in the run-up to today's primary in Minnesota where he is the frontrunner among five Democrats running for state attorney general. Over the weekend, the son of his ex-girlfriend, Karen Monahan, accused Ellison of abusing his mother and claims there is video evidence. Though Monahan herself told Minnesota Public Radio why she does not intend to release that video. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) KAREN MONAHAN, EX-GIRLFRIEND OF REP. KEITH ELLISON: It's not on me to try to keep proving to people this happened. When I originally was going to share my story, I had no intention of talking about video or text. It was simple as me sharing what happened to me. (END AUDIO CLIP) HENRY: Ellison put out a statement Sunday night saying, quote: Karen and I were in a long-term relationship which ended in 2016 and I still care deeply for her well-being. This video does not exist because I never behaved in this way and any characterization otherwise is false. Now, analysts in the state have said one thing Ellison may have going for him politically is some people participated in early voting before these allegations. Though, if he gets the primary nod tonight, this could still dog him in the general election -- Sean. HANNITY: All right. Thanks, Ed. And be sure, Ed is in tonight 11:00, filling in for Shannon Bream, "FOX News @ Night". But, first, NBC News' Chucky Todd is not happy that the FBI fired Trump- hating agent Peter Strzok. And he tweeted out today: I don't know if folks realize how extraordinary and undemocratic small D it is for the president of the United States to run down a civil servant like this. And, you know, for legal folks, when does this become an intimidation tactic to the point of legal obstruction? And I wonder if other civil servants who believe they have seen wrongdoing are watching how the POTUS and his echo chamber can character assassinate so viciously and get second thoughts about doing their job given the risk the POTUS is showcasing to anyone who crosses him. By the way, has Chucky Todd ever bothered to read the text messages -- we'll stop him, insurance policy, all the other stuff or is he really just that dumb? By the way, Chucky, you may host "Meet the Press". You will never be Tim Russert. Here now with reaction is the "New York Times" bestselling author, "The Russian Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett, former Clinton pollster and advisor Mark Penn. You know, Mark, you worked how many years for the Clintons? MARK PENN, FORMER CLINTON POLLSTER: Thirteen. HANNITY: How many? PENN: Thirteen. HANNITY: You were Clinton's pollster. You were close to the Clintons. PENN: Well, pollster, chief strategist through the presidential campaign through impeachment, through Hillary's Senate race in 2008. HANNITY: OK. You are one of the few Democrats and I'm sure you probably are even taking heat for talking to me, which by the way, I apologize for. But you are one of the few Democrats that see through this, see the danger in all of this. What do you say to your fellow Democrats that are literally watching a dual justice system emerge before their eyes and not seemingly caring? PENN: Look, I say the facts that have been uncovered here from the Peter Strzok texts, to the actions that were taken by the FBI, to the conflicts of interest, to the wife that worked for GPS, Simpson, but these are real facts. These are not theories. When it at least comes to this issue, the tin hats are not being worn by the people on FOX News. They are being worn by the FBI. And what seems to be, what, five, six, seven people now who have had to step down or resign. This is not smoke. This is real fire. And I think that whether you are a Democrat or a Republican, you have to recognize this was wrong and it's tearing apart our country. HANNITY: What -- but there is -- the irony in all of this is, we are talking about the Manafort trial, 2005 tax fraud case. I didn't know Paul Manafort. I don't know what he did in 2005. But, this was all because of Rod Rosenstein's wide mandate that he gave Robert Mueller and the appointment of his friend and even though he signed the fourth FISA warrant which I believe conflicts him just like, you know, recommending the firing of Comey. But I look at, for example, Hillary's campaign paying for what turned out to be Russian lies. Misinformation peddled to the American people before an election. I look at what happened to Bernie Sanders. I look at FISA court judges, a fraud committed four separate times on a court with unverified, uncorroborated information and purposefully withholding the information that Hillary paid for it. And you're right, these are all facts. This all has a little bit to do with Russia and Russian lies and that is all being ignored just like Adam Schiff talking to a Russian about naked pictures of Donald Trump breathlessly hoping for all the details. PENN: Well, look. Judge Ellis said it pretty well. Why is Paul Manafort being prosecuted? He is being prosecuted because he worked for a couple of months as campaign manager for Donald Trump. Otherwise, maybe the IRS would have done an investigation. Maybe he would have been prosecuted. But if the case was closed -- this was picked up for that very reason. So ultimately, I think he did a risky strategy today not calling witnesses. But, is it a persecution or prosecution? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What do you think, answer your won question, what do you think it is. PENN: Well, you know, it's one half of each. I think that Manafort has a lot of explaining to do about these transactions. But he would never have the entire force of the U.S. government held without bail with two indictments in two separate courts unless he had worked in a political campaign and that's what's wrong about it. HANNITY: And Mark Penn, with all due respect to your relationship with Hillary, if you deleted e-mail -- subpoenaed e-mails. If you acid washed your hard thrive with bleach bit which nobody had ever heard of. If you had aides bust up your devices I don't think you'd be sitting here tonight. You would probably be in jail. PENN: Well, look, I think that there was a valid request for this information, and it never -- it never showed up. And, as you know, as I'm sure Gregg Jarrett could tell us in more detail, the guy who was supposed to maintain it deliberately destroyed the e-mails after he knew that it was under subpoena. So there was no question that a lot of people destroyed information but no one has been held accountable for it I don't think it was Hillary per se, but somebody destroyed a lot of information here. HANNITY: Let me go to Gregg Jarrett. Gregg, there is a lot of Russian angles in this that are not being investigated. Fraud committed upon a court. I believe a rigged investigation. Exoneration for the investigation. I believe that the fix was in. And I believe that they have turned the entire force of the DOJ and the FBI, the upper echelon against Donald Trump before the election and now after the election. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: There's a reason why James Comey took the case away from the field office because Comey knew that the FBI is incorruptible. But Comey was corrupt. And so he seized the case, the Hillary Clinton case away from the field office because he likely knew that they would find that she committed multiple crimes and would have recommended prosecution and indictment. And Comey took it over and he twisted the law and contorted the facts and he cleared her in the face of overwhelming evidence of criminality. I talked today at length to a former top FBI official. Thirty years in the business. And he talks all the time to the rank and file and he says they are fuming at what James Comey and Peter Strzok did. They caused irreparable harm that will take years to rectify. HANNITY: One of the things an FBI agent told me is that for him, that he feels it and sees it. That the trust in that great agency is diminished because of the actions of those few at the top. Let me ask you this, now that Strzok is fired and he is at the heart of everything, he is the one that changed the language gross negligence, extreme carelessness. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: He is the one that interviewed Hillary. He wrote the exoneration before investigation. He is involved with Flynn. JARRETT: Sure. HANNITY: He interviewed Hillary, Flynn and started the Russia investigation. How does that taint, in your view, everything that now Robert Mueller is trying to do? JARRETT: Well, if he gathered evidence that contributed to Mueller's case, any case against Donald Trump, that's tainted evidence. And under the exclusionary rule it cannot and should not be used. You know, Peter Strzok deserved to be fired 10 times over. I looked up the code of regulations, the code of conduct. He violated at least four different code of conduct at the FBI. He richly deserved to have been fired. And the president is entitled to exercise his constitutionally protected speech to criticize and condemn Peter Strzok and all American-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Yes. A great American said if you are innocent act like it. If I'm innocent I'm going to scream my innocence pretty loudly. We'll give Mark the last word tonight. Mark? PENN: Well, look, I think there is no question, Peter Strzok used government communications for personal purposes and personal communications for government purposes and then he was filled with animus and hatred while supposedly conducting an impartial investigation, yes, he should have been fired a long time ago and the American people know that. HANNITY: All right. I feel sorry for you as you go out to your favorite restaurant in D.C. the next time. Mark Penn, you will be explaining your appearance on the show. But thank you for your honesty, we appreciate it? PENN: Thank you. HANNITY: When we come back, we have a brand new polling tonight highlighting just how extreme the Democratic Party is 84 days out of the election, the midterms, the most important in our life. Jesse, Jessica, whose world, next. HANNITY: All right. So over the weekend, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi was asked what the Democrats stand for. Here's what she said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are Democrats for? REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA, MINORITY LEADER: Democrats are for the people. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What does that mean? PELOSI: Democrats are for the people, it means you are for the people having lower healthcare costs. Reducing the cost of prescription drugs. Democrats are for bigger paychecks by building the infrastructure of America. Creating good paying jobs. Democrats are for making governments work by reducing the role of big dark money in politics. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Bigger paychecks by taking back the crumbs and keeping the disastrous plan known as Obamacare. And of course impeaching the president but don't tell anyone. And eliminating ICE and open borders. And now a new poll shows from Gallup Democrats view socialism more positively than capitalism. Joining us now is the co-host of The Five and the host of Watters World. Actually he has two shows, Jess Watters. One isn't enough. And Fox News contributor, Jessica Tarlov. While doesn't she have one show. That's not fair. JESSICA TARLOV, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: If you are out there watching. Answer that question. I would have the highest viewership on the network. Not, just kidding. HANNITY: You know, this is a really important issue. Because I've given the statistics, eight years of Obama, I won't give on that 13 more million Americans on food stamps-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Thank you. HANNITY: -- eight million more poverty. More debt than every other president before him combined. TARLOV: Can I do mine? HANNITY: The impeach Trump but don't tell people is true. We know they want their crumbs back. They said their crumbs but they want them back. We know they want Obamacare. She said it and we know they want open borders and to eliminate ICE. What else do they stand for? TARLOV: Well, you are asking me so they don't stand for abolishing ICE or open borders. There are some things that people on the fringe left is saying. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That is not true, but go ahead. TARLOV: Yes, it is true. Of course it is true. HANNITY: No, it's not. TARLOV: Have you seen a Democratic Party platform piece that says we would love open borders and to abolish ICE? No. Our leaders have-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I'm listening to Democrats talking all over the country talk about eliminating ICE. (CROSSTALK) JESSE WATTERS, FOX NEWS CO-HOST: Yes. Keith Ellison, the number two in the DNC had a t-shirt on that said we don't believe in borders. I think that stands for something. But what do Democrats stand for, Sean? We know they don't stand for the national anthem? I mean, are they against rising wages? Rising stock market? What have the Democrats given us besides ISIS? Chinese spies, open borders, what are they going to run on? Bringing back Obamacare? They already lost in midterm election-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Rigged election for Bernie, right? You know, lies about -- lies from Russia and lies to the American people and-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: That's not true. HANNITY: -- propagandize them before the general election. TARLOV: But it's not true. First of all-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's all true. TARLOV: -- Bernie Sanders lost over million votes. That was not rigged against him because of the DNC. That was because he was a less popular choice than Hillary Clinton. WATTERS: Then why would the DNC chairwoman resign in disgrace right before the convention? TARLOV: You think she stole four million votes and ran out the door there? Yet, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz got-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: No, I think the e-mail showed that she rigged it. She had to get out of town. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: You can't rig four million votes. You just can't do it and it wasn't what happened. If you look what's going on on these primaries all other the country now. The establishment Democrat candidates are beating the progressive left candidates endorsed by Band Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez because that's not what our party is about. HANNITY: Why does the poll show Democrats, Jesse, support socialism over capitalism? WATTERS: Well, listen. I mean, they support socialism because liberalism has failed. So they are out of touch. They are out of power. They are out of ideas. But I have an idea. Why don't they work with the president to make America great again? You know, Democrats feel like they have to exist in order to resist. I think if they got together and did a deal with the president, they would get something done for the American people. I mean, socialism-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: A question I have for both of you. WATTERS: Yes. HANNITY: Jessica, since Donald Trump has been president we have 14 states record low unemployment. Record unemployment for African-Americans, women in the workforce. Asian-Americans, Hispanic-Americans. Is that Donald Trump good economic policies? Can you admit it? TARLOV: You made me do this last week and the Daily Caller then had an absurd headline it didn't include what I actually said which was thank you Donald Trump but thank you Barack Obama more. Donald Trump inherited conditions that allowed him to pull this off. He is doing better with those groups though. HANNITY: Right. TARLOV: I mean, who knows where that goes from there. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. Eight years of failure now we'll get him the success of Trump. (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: GDP versus 1.6 that-- TARLOV: Yes. That's not -- Barack Obama had four quarters over 4 percent growth of GDP. We will see what President Trump does. But we should be thankful for the crumbs. We should be thankful for any economic growth. HANNITY: All right. I'm ready? TARLOV: OK. HANNITY: Jesse. TARLOV: Whatever. HANNITY: Sorry, it's his world. You are living in it. All right. Good to see you both. Trace Gallagher shocking new developments tonight about the extremist Muslim compound. Remember New Mexico, young boy found dead? Other children literally trained to carry out school shootings? Guess what? They got out of jail. Well, on a $20,000 bond. Sebastian Gorka and Dan Bongino and so much more, straight ahead. HANNITY: We're following a disturbing story out of New Mexico where it has now been reported that children were being trained to conduct school shootings at a squalid compound. Our own Trace Gallagher has the very latest on this troubling story. Trace? TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Sean, we are talking about 11 children ages 1 to 15 and five adults facing child abuse charges. But Judge Sarah Backus decided not to hold the adults. So not only has she come under fire social media. Tonight, authorities in Taos, New Mexico had to evacuate the courthouse because of a credible threat against her. In court, prosecutors said the adults at the compound were teaching children how to shoot teachers, cops and students. And the FBI testified that children were forced to attend an exorcism to expel the demons from a 3-year-old boy with epilepsy. Witnesses say the boy's father refused to give his son medication. And when the boy died of a seizure the father said his son would come back as Jesus and tell them who to kill. The defense says this is nothing more than a religious journey and prosecutors are applying a double standard because the defendants are Muslim or black. Judge Backus is a Democrat and former San Francisco public defender said the allegations are troubling but the prosecutors did not prove the suspects had a plan to kill anyone. She then freed the defendants on a signature bond that requires no money upfront. But we should note tonight, the female leader of this group was picked up by U.S. agents for an immigration violation. Sean? HANNITY: All right, Trace. Insane, but sadly happening. Here with reaction tonight to this and more, the author of "Why We Fight" Fox News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka. Former Secret Service Agent NRATV contributor, Dan Bongino. I look at this the judge ruling that prosecutors in the case, five adults, et cetera, in the compound, 11 malnourished children that they failed to make the case for keeping the defendants in custody while they await trial. Paul Manafort, didn't he spend, Dr. Gorka, 23 hours a day in solitary confinement for a long period of time-- SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: Yes. HANNITY: -- over a 2005 tax case? Here we have evidence of these kids, what way the conditions they were living, in what specifically happened here. GORKA: It's truly remarkable. This is, perhaps, the most horrific case study of just how politicized the judicial system has become in recent years. You need to listen to what Trace said again. These were children, almost a dozen children and they found the dead body of a 4-year-old on the compound. They found the weapons, they found the training materials. And these people are left to leave the courtroom without paying a bail and I think the best they did is to give them ankle bracelet trackers? This isn't justice. This is where political correctness can get in the way of keeping Americans safe, Sean. It's a travesty. HANNITY: Well, the judge, you know, saying prosecutors -- prosecutors didn't prove, Dan Bongino, that the terrorists were a danger to the community. It's only really a signature bond. Meaning they only need a signature, they don't even need to post the 20 grand. DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Sean, I've never heard anything like this. When I was a Secret Service agent investigating financial crimes, keep in mind, we are talking about white collar crime. Not the allegations here where kids were being trained to shoot law enforcement and teachers on a compound. When I was doing white collar crimes, I remember bond rates in the Eastern District of New York in the Long Island courthouse 10 and 20 times this for people who committed credit card fraud. Check kiting and bank fraud. This case is outrageous. By the way, Sean, the allegations in this, they don't have to prove anything. Prove it in the trial. GORKA: Right. BONGINO: There was clearly probable cause for an arrest or they wouldn't have been in a courtroom. These are serious allegations. HANNITY: Let me-- (CROSSTALK) BONGINO: This is an embarrassment to the justice system. HANNITY: Let me shift gears and let's talk a little bit about the Manafort case. So, the odds are not with Paul Manafort based on, you know, the conviction rate and federal court is 95 plus percent. And none of us know what he did in 2005. But we do know that the lead witness got a get out of jail free card, Dr. Gorka. And that he faced 100 years-plus in jail. GORKA: Yes. HANNITY: Admitted somebody that was an admitted liar, you know, admitted to, you know, all these other crimes. Is that bribery of a witness? Doesn't it seem like it to you? Doesn't it seem like there is something wrong with that system? GORKA: Well, that's an old established system to try and get people who are criminals to give you access and ammunition against the person you really want. And, Sean, there is only one person that Mueller and his team really want. And that's the president. HANNITY: Yes. GORKA: And they think they can get to the president through Manafort and that's why they flipped this individual who has zero credibility and, again, it's about politics. This is in Virginia but Arlington is a very, very Democrat core district. HANNITY: Dan, 100 years in jail, and get out of jail free card and you know, admitting to embezzling, lying and all sorts of other craps. I'd say anything I would assume that person would say anything. BONGINO: Yes. I think it's clear, you know, the crime they are really looking at for Manafort is joining the Trump team. I mean, that seems obvious. Sebastian is right. And you're right. This witness is not credible. He has problems with his family, his finances and everything else. And ultimately it's going to come down to his believability by the jury which I don't believe is very good. HANNITY: Thank you both. You are going to love our video of the day. A story involving a patriotic 10-year-old boy that will blow your mind. That's next. HANNITY: All right. Take a look at this video today. Heartwarming clip circulating online, a very patriotic 10-year-old boy, his name is Avery Price. He's from Tennessee. Now he has a hereditary disease that hinders the use of his legs and stops him from getting up at his wheelchair at other times. But it did not stop him from standing for the national anthem. I'm a college football guy now, so sick of what the NFL is doing. That's my own personal choice. All right. That's unfortunately, that's all the time we have left this evening. Thank you for being with us. We'll always be fair and balanced. Ingraham is there. Load-Date: August 15, 2018 End of Document Democrats and Socialism; Effects of Socialism; DNC Chairman Accused of Abuse by Ex-Girlfriend; Former White House Aide Omarosa Manigault Newman Releases More Taped Conversation with other White House Aides; ICE Policy of Arresting Illegal Immigrant at Courthouses Debated; President Trump Criticized for Tweeted Comments on Omarosa Manigault Newman Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST August 14, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8596 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Monica Crowley Guests: Andres Malave, Elizabeth Bruenig, Alan Dershowitz, Leo Terrell, Lynne Patton, Thomas Homan, Allen Orr, Jimmie Walker Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: I am a college football guy now. So sick of what the NFL is doing. That is my own personal choice. All right, unfortunately, that is all the time we have left this evening. Thank you for being with us. We'll always be fair and balanced. Ingraham is there. By the way, you know, our little chit-chat every night apparently is big news to some people. . LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Oh, is it? HANNITY: Yes, the fact that we kid each other, you take cheap shots at me all the time. INGRAHAM: I am looking at your shirt to see if there is anything -- is that a blue shirt? You should wear more blue. That actually looks good on you. Do you like blue? HANNITY: So you want me to wear a blue shirt. Now you're going to tell me how to dress. INGRAHAM: That looks good. HANNITY: After 23 years on Fox, now I'm going to get lectures on what to wear. INGRAHAM: Jill takes good care of you. Hannity, by the way, that little boy, I was doing my radio show the other day, and he called in to my show. HANNITY: Seriously, that 10-year-old kid? INGRAHAM: Yes, he called in to my show and I said, why do you -- why was that so important to you? And I'm just paraphrasing, but he said, because I love my country and it was just such a simple statement from a 10-year-old boy and I thought, when I was 10 I couldn't be so -- as eloquent as he was, but it is so inspiring. I'm so glad you played something positive and uplifting because then it leads into our cynical conversation. HANNITY: I won't to bring up the NFL thing, but I got to be honest, if we can't agree that the people that fought, bled, died, and lost limbs for us, and have been disfigured for us, fighting under that flag, I don't know what we're going to agree on. INGRAHAM: Yes. Well, God bless him. They say it's not about that, but you know, I think it's -- we have so few things that keep us together. HANNITY: All right, have a good show. By the way, you should wear black more often or whatever color that is. I can't really see. I'm blind as a bat and I'm deaf. INGRAHAM: Thank you. HANNITY: What? INGRAHAM: We got to get back to insulting each other. All right, Hannity, you had a fair (inaudible) show. HANNITY: Have a good show. INGRAHAM: All right, take care. HANNITY: How did you like my blue shirt? INGRAHAM: It looks very good tonight. I like it. HANNITY: Oh, thank you. INGRAHAM: Good evening. I am Laura Ingraham, and this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. What a show we have for you tonight. In a Fox exclusive, Omarosa's closest confidant inside the Trump administration will be here to set the record straight about what really went on in the White House. Also, we're going to tell you why the Democrats have suddenly gotten very quiet about domestic abuse allegations against one of its top leaders. Plus, you will not believe what kinds of crimes open borders advocates are in fact defending now. And some Dynomite for you close to the end of our show tonight, T.V. icon J.J. Walker will react to the latest charges of racism against the president. But first, the Democrats struggle to make socialism sexy again. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. In the midst of this massive economic boom under President Trump, it is stunning how Democrats simply refuse to learn. If Trump's for it, they're against it. Even on issues they used to be for, like look at how they refuse for instance, to work with Trump on legalizing the dreamers, or even may be on prison reform they won't work with him. Well, we now see that anti-Trump delirium is pushing Democrats further out of the American mainstream right to socialism. A new Gallup poll confirms that more Democrats prefer socialism to capitalism. Fifty-seven percent view socialism favorably while just 47 percent have a favorable review of capitalism. Just two years ago, those numbers were flipped. Fifty-six percent then favored capitalism. Of course, it could be that socialism's attractive new poster gal is changing minds. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MEGHAN MCCAIN, THE VIEW SHOW CO-HOST: Do you think that the future of the Democratic Party is socialism? ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ, DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST: Well, first of all there this huge difference between socialism and Democratic socialism. Democratic socialism and really what that boils down to me, is the basic belief that I believe that in a moral and wealthy America and a moral and modern America, no person should be too poor to live in this country. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Trump believes that, too, that is why he is growing the economy so fast. Well, or maybe it's the indoctrination against capitalism on college campuses. For instance, at Middlebury College, juniors can take a class called "Beyond Intersectionalty: Developing Anti-Racist and anti- Capitalist Feminisms." A University of Michigan textbook used for activism class teaches that capitalism should be overthrown. And according to data from Open Syllabus Project, Karl Marx is the most assigned economist in U.S. college classes today. Great. What college students would benefit from, is a little less rage and a little more reality. Like this devastating exchange -- now this goes back to the `70s, one of my favorites -- between Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman and old lefty Phil Donahue. It should be required viewing. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PHIL DONAHUE, HOST, PHIL DONAHUE SHOW: When you see the greed and the concentration of power with it, aren't you ever -- did you ever have a moment of doubt about capitalism and whether greed is a good idea to run on? MILTON FRIEDMAN, ECONOMIST: Well, first of all, tell me, is there some society you know that doesn't run on greed? Do you think Russia doesn't run on greed? Do you think China doesn't run on greed? What is greed? Of course, none of us are greedy, it's only the other fellow who's greedy. The world runs on individuals pursuing their separate interests. The great achievements of civilization have not come from government bureaus. Einstein didn't construct his theory under order from a bureaucrat. Henry Ford didn't revolutionize the automobile industry that way. In the only cases in which the masses have escaped from the kind of grinding poverty you are talking about, the only cases in recorded history are where they have had capitalism and largely free-trade. If you want to know where the masses are worse off, worst off, it's exactly in the kinds of societies that depart from that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now let's face it. Without a solid grounding in real, fact-based economics and history, our young people are sitting ducks for any huckster promising freebies. Free health care, free college, free housing, and the list goes on and on. Free scooters. Here's an indisputable historical fact that eludes the most college professors these days. There has never been a successful socialist government. Not ever. A hundred million people were killed in socialist regimes in the 20th century. The USSR, China, Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, Nicaragua, Zimbabwe, et cetera, et cetera. But we don't have to reach into the annals of history to tell us this. Just look at Venezuela today. A country rich in oil where the middle-class ones prospered. No more. Since Hugo Chavez imposed socialism on the country, it has spiraled ever downward. And of course, some major Hollywood figures were once Chavez's big boosters. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OLIVER STONE, FILMMAKER: The Bush administration does not like this guy because he represents an anti- corporate interest. He's taken over the oil and he has distributed it to the poor people. MICAHEL MOORE, FILMMAKER: Certainly, Chavez, when he started, was on the right path because he wanted to return this country to the people. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Bowling for relevance. Moore and company is, of course, now devoted to taking down Trump. Wear their irrational theory as a badge of honor, Mr. President. Chavez employed government controls, commandeered a once free media, and presided over the collapse of his country in a swirl of corruption unseen even in Latin America. Then his successor, Nicolas Maduro, took the reins. "The Washington Post" reporting now that, "Venezuela's crisis has steadily intensified as a result of lower oil prices, corruption, and a socialist system plagued with mismanagement. But as Maduro has sought to further consolidate power in the past 12 months, the economy, public services, security, and health care have all but collapsed." No wonder Venezuelans are climbing out of the Andes to get out of there. More than 10 percent of the population, 4 million people have already departed. The situation on the ground is dire. Parents starved for food are abandoning children at orphanages. Power, water, and sanitation services are all breaking down. Government-backed militias are abusing citizens. Members of the military are going AWOL due to scant rations. Civil society is broken in Venezuela and crime is on the rise. Oh, and the people are choking the halls of hospitals since basic medicines are unavailable, while HIV-related deaths have surged. So much for that free health care. Hear the people living through the socialist hell of present-day Venezuela, listen. (BEGINV VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translation): I live in the streets. We want to solve all these problems. We don't want free handouts. We want to work. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): There are people close to me who picked through the garbage, she says, people dressed like you and me. It affects us all. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): Venezuela is starving. We are dying of hunger, all of Venezuela. Venezuela has practically already collapsed. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): Everyone who is out here is hurting, she says. We are afraid that either the government will kill us or that we will die of some disease in the hospital because there is no medicine. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That is a government on socialism. Despite all that, though, Democrats think they can win back power touting the utopia of that? They truly believe that socialism is the pathway to economic security here in America? Is that with her Venezuelans are experiencing? I must be really out of it then. How about the people of Cuba who are still subjected to rationing booklets, that can script (ph) how much food each of them can buy every month. Listen to Peter Lumaj, a man who fled communist Albania on this rebranded type of socialism. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PETER LUMAJ, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: -- is that you cannot have a Democratic socialism. Socialism is coercion. Socialism is forced. You cannot establish a system that people don't want without using power. What happened in 1940s when communist came to Albania, the first thing that they did, they disarmed the population and anyone who disagreed with them was subjected to arrests, to tortures, to internment camps. My entire family was taken to a concentration camp where my father was tortured to death. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Those who suffer the most under socialism have the most to teach us. One hopes that young people are listening closely. But conservatives also have a lot of work to do. They have to do more to outreach and talk to the young via education and the culture. It's our responsibility to alert those who were not there or are too fixated on Snapchat or how much they hate Trump to understand the dangers and horrors of socialism. But if you don't believe me or you don't want to believe me, that is fine. I have another idea. Just book a one way ticket to Venezuela. Stay there for a few weeks and then get back to me. Let us know how it feels to have all that economic freedom you were looking for. And that is THE ANGLE. Joining me now with reaction are Andres Malave, an American for Prosperity spokesman who fled with his family from Venezuela. Elizabeth Bruenig, a "Washington Post" opinion columnist who wrote a piece titled, "It's Time To Give Socialism A Try," and Alan Dershowitz, Harvard law professor emeritus and author of the book "The Case Against Impeaching Trump." Great to see all of you. Alan, let's go to you. Recently you thought that the Democrats wouldn't go that far as to embrace socialism. But that new poll by Gallup has to give you pause. ALAN DERSHOWITZ, HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR EMERITUS: Well, it certainly does. I'm very concerned about what the academics are teaching today on university campuses. Instead of teaching students how to think, they are telling them what to think, and they are imposing a kind of anti-American, anti-Capitalist, anti-free market view. Look, I am no apologist for socialism but there is a difference between Cubist communism, Chavez's high handed socialism bordering on communism, and Sweden for example, which does have a kind of democratic socialism. It's a mixture of socialism and capitalism. So, I think you overstate the arguments against socialism, but the Democrats can't win with socialism. Look, my concern is that both parties are moving too far away from the center. I think the Democrats, clearly, their younger people are moving hard, hard, hard left. But I think Republicans, too, with their anti- immigration policies are going to alienate a lot of centrists in America. I think that we have to worry about rebuilding the center in America. The center is where America thrives. We can have great debates between moderate liberals and moderate conservatives. I used to debate William Buckley all the time on television. Those were great debates. Debates today have become shouting matches between the hard left and the hard right. That's not different -- INGRAHAM: Not on this show, Alan. Not on this show. DERSHOWITZ: No, I agree. I agree. INGRAHAM: Elizabeth, you are one of the young proponents of socialism and I want you to have an opportunity to state why you think it is the future. ELIZABETH BRUENIG, OPINION COLUMNIST, WASHINGTON POST: Yes, maybe so Alan is right. We are not talking about authoritarian or totalitarian forms of socialism, right. So, socialism, they are seen a one stable core. The term first pops up in the 1830s and then overtime it means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. But the stable core is that social control over the means of production, an people have tried to make that happen in different ways. INGRAHAM: What do you mean social control by the means of production? So, partial state ownership of major industries, is that what you are advocating? BRUENIG: So sometimes socialist have tried to accomplish it by state ownership of major industries, sometimes it has been through workers cooperatives, sometimes it has been through direct worker ownership of the means of production, and sometimes it is just been through sort of Democratic control over how the state uses the economic resources. INGRAHAM: So what you are advocating for is a more, what, generous redistribution of wealth and combination of partial state ownership of industries, a combination of that? BRUENIG: Yes. I think, you know, what you would be looking at is something that's actually more like a mixed economy, like what you have in Norway and what I would advocate for, you know, first off, and what I think Bernie Sanders is advocating for. It's just the people, the United States, the American citizens, having more control over how the countries wealth, its enormous wealth, is used. Instead of its enormous wealth just being concentrated in the hands of -- INGRAHAM: Then how would you rate Obama? BRUENIG: Not well. INGRAHAM: Not a socialist? Not close to socialism that you like? BRUENIG: Not close, right. INGRAHAM: Where is socialism working well? The type that you advocate? BRUENIG: Right. So, Norway is a really good example. INGRAHAM: Norway. How big is Norway's military do you think? BRUENIG: Norway's military is not the size of -- INGRAHAM: Pretty small, right. Well, we carry a big burden in our country for our military to protect world peace, global harmony, at least we hope to do that. Andres -- hold on, you'll get back because we want to get back to you. Andres, your family from Venezuela, you wrote a very compelling piece as well on the perils of socialism. You heard what Elizabeth just said. ANDRES MALAVE, SPOKESMAN, AMERICAN FOR PROSPERITY: Sure, and with all due respect, I completely disagree and I would hope that Senator Sanders and Ms. Ocasio-Cortez quite frankly drop these failed attempts at propping up a system that just doesn't work. When you look at what happened in Venezuela, a country that quite frankly has all the riches in the world, has all the resources in the world to be a superpower, and is failing under the crippling thuggery of Chavez and Maduro, that has forced not just my family to have to leave, but you know, countless others. That is not a system that has worked and, you know, to have an actual good conversation about what is happening in Scandinavia, it is because of the markets and open market system that has actually helped those companies -- INGRAHAM: Capitalism. Yes, the rise of European capitalism. MALAVE: -- not socialism and the ideals that combine that. INGRAHAM: Alan, this is what -- speaking of students, this is what Campus Reform discovered about what people may or may not understand about socialism, specifically Ocasio-Cortez's supporters. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who in your mind should pay for all of the free things? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All of the free things? Well, some of it should come from taxes, but the government should pay for it. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But the government is funded by taxes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't know where the money would come from but they can figure it out. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. More taxes on the rich people. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For sure, man. They can afford it. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tax corporations, tax to one percent and find a way to support a living wage. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So Alan, it's like trendy lingo, the living wage, sustainable wage, health care for all, Medicare for all, free college education, free universal, free school, free, free, free. I mean, who doesn't like free stuff? I mean, that would be great if we didn't have to pay for any of that. But someone, as Margaret Thatcher said, at some point, you run out of other peoples' money. That's what happened in Venezuela, that's what happened throughout history, and when society breaks down, that's when the militias come out, and then you see slaughter in the streets or starvation, which is what you're seeing in Venezuela. What can people do to educate young people about the perils of this? Now, I know you are an old liberal. The liberals aren't socialists. It's a very different approach to governance. DERSHOWITZ: Well, you know, we have to remember the Franklin Delano Roosevelt, save capitalism by introducing a lot of the elements of socialism. Obviously, not state control over industries, but you know, I went to Brooklyn College, which was free. I could have never afforded to go to college unless it was free. And I think a lot of Americans would like to see re-allocation of resources. Look, I am a relatively wealthy person and I pay a lot of taxes. I am happy to pay more taxes in order to make -- INGRAHAM: Go write a check. Well who's stopping you from writing a check? Write a bigger check. DERSHOWITZ: I do, believe me I do. I do, but I would like you to pay more taxes, too. INGRAHAM: I pay half of my income as do most people in taxes. DERSHOWITZ: I want to see all pregnant women being given free medical care. I want to see young people being given free medical care. But I don't want it to impact on the growth of our economy. That's the hard question. How do you allocate resources in a way that helps the lower -- INGRAHAM: You grow the economy. DERSHOWITZ: That's one way to doing it. INGRAHAM: No, no, you grow -- Alan, you got to grow the economy. DERSHOWITZ: But if you can grow the economy -- INGRAHAM: We are growing the economy at 4.1 percent. That is an economic boom that is -- and people say it's not trickle-down, Alan? DESCHOWITZ: Look, I agree with that, but if we can continue to-- INGRAHAM: This is where Harvard misses the boat, OK. Trickle-down economics, yes, it is trickling down. DERSHOWITZ: But believe me -- let me make my point. Let me make my point. We can continue to grow the economy by re-allocating resources to the poor in a better way. The economy doesn't trickle down. We now have seen the 1 percent, the 2 percent, the 5 percent doing very, very well-- INGRAHAM: OK, how much have we spent on the war on poverty, do you think? How much is the war on poverty? We spend about $7 trillion? DERSHOWITZ: Well, I would like to spend -- I would like to spend more on the war on poverty and less on real wars that we don't have to fight anymore because -- INGRAHAM: Well, we can agree on the real war as far as -- DERSHOWITZ: -- the Soviet Union is now a major failure economically. China is not going to be a threat to us immediately so I think we can re-allocate more of our money to the poor -- INGRAHAM: OK. Yes, they are planning for the long term. DERSHOWITZ: -- but without adopting any authoritarianism. Look, the Republicans have their problem, too. A recent poll show that 40 something percent of Republicans want to give the president the power to censor the media. That is a terrible idea -- INGRAHAM: OK, let's stay on point. DERSHOWITZ: -- and I think we have to make sure both sides -- INGRAHAM: I get you. I know anytime we criticize the Democrats you have to (inaudible). Stay on one point. DERSHOWITZ: -- no, I'm saying both sides -- I have to criticize the Republicans. Absolutely. INGRAHAM: I know you do because that's your thing. That's fine, but we are focused on one issue -- DERSHOWITZ: No, and that's the truth. INGRAHAM: -- because we've a limited amount of time. Elizabeth, I want to give you an opportunity -- DERSHOWITZ: The reality is centrism is important. INGRAHAM: Hold on Alan. The center goes one way. Everyone is like this myth that the center is where it's at. No, politics is motivated by passion and I think a sense of, you know, right and wrong and passion on the left is going in one direction, passion on the right is going to conservative populism and the reaction to conservative populism is Democratic socialism whatever you call -- Elizabeth, we got a minute left, what in your mind is the future of the party as far as a person? Who is your ideal candidate right now? BRUENIG: Well, I mean, it is somebody like Sanders. Somebody following in that vein, somebody who can see that it's about power, right. I mean, that's the issue. We have people who are producing this country's wealth, those of the workers. They are not the owners. They are the people who are doing the work making the stuff. INGRAHAM: Do you think the owners want people to get richer, of companies, CEO's? BRUENIG: Owners want to get richer, but they do not want the people who are making the stuff to get richer because that means they get less rich. So they are screwing the people at the very bottom and those are the people -- INGRAHAM: How many economics classes did you take, I'm just curious? Do you take a lot of economics in school? BRUENIG: I did, and those are the people who need to exert control over the country's wealth because they are making the production and -- INGRAHAM: Well, I want more workers, that's for sure, but I want workers to live in freedom, freedom to speak out too, what you usually don't have in a socialist society, but Elizabeth, thank you. Gentleman, thank you. The deputy chair of the DNC facing domestic abuse allegations. More, next. INGRAHAM: The Democrats love to talk about a Stormy Daniels or anyone else associated with an accusation against President Trump. But what about deputy DNC chair Keith Ellison, who is defending himself now against accusations that he physically and emotionally abused an ex-girlfriend? So now it's innocent until proven guilty? OK. The DNC was shamed into commenting on the matter today, telling NPR, "These allegations recently came to light and we are reviewing them. All allegations of domestic abuse are disturbing and should be taken seriously. And Ellison just moments ago won his Democratic primary in an attempt to become the Minnesota attorney general. Joining me now for reaction, Monica Crowley, senior fellow at the London Center for Policy Research and Leo Terrel, a civil rights attorney. All right, Monica, let's start with you. The Me Too Movement has been a pretty powerful thing and the Democrats have been pretty powerful in aligning themselves after the Harvey thing kind of went through its cycle with the women who claim to be subject to abuse. This took a little while for the DNC to issue a very fairly bland statement about. MONICA CROWLEY, SENIOR FELLOW, LONDON CENTER FOR POLICY RESEARCH: Yes, it is incredible, Laura, that we are in the midst of this very potent cultural moment and yet it took the DNC days to weigh in on it. So, I wonder now if we've reached something of a tipping point in the Me Too Movement or at least in this particular case of Keith Ellison. Look, the Me Too Movement has claimed a lot of very powerful scalps on both sides of the aisle and you look back and you wonder, well, Al Franken went down in flames. John Conyers went down in flames. We have a lot of people again, on both sides of the aisle, have essentially been destroyed by past actions and accusations and so on. So what is different in the Keith Ellison case? Well, could it be that the DNC and the Democrats have chosen to protect Keith Ellison, trying to promote him, because he checks two boxes? He is African-American and he is a Muslim. So he's got two minority aspects weighing in his favor, at least in this era of hyper identity politics. INGRAHAM: And Monica, he also -- I think he had his gubernatorial and perhaps presidential aspirations down the road so, you know, that's not a bad supposition on all of this. Leo, the media, CNN in particular, covered the Rob Porter -- like, no one knew who Rob Porter was, but he was a staff secretary to Trump. So, here was the guy who manage the paper flow into the president. It's an important position. So, his girlfriend accused him of all these stuff, dating Hope Hicks, but the media covered at 40 times as much in the first two days of that scandal than they are mentioning the Keith Ellison, who is the head of the DNC. What gives? I mean, if you are going to cover them, cover both the same amount of time. Would you not agree? LEO TERRELL, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: I would agree with that, Laura. I just wonder say hi before you start disagreeing with me. INGRAHAM: Twenty-four times as much, yes, not 40. TERRELL: My point is, Laura, this story about Ellison broke just over the weekend. The victim has basically said she's not going to release this alleged tape. Now Monica, I don't know why she wanted to go to the race card, but she's talking about Keith Ellison, the Democratic Party, not addressing this. My goodness, it's only been 72 hours. Now, there's been no mention of a guy, you and Laura knows, called Roy Moore. My point is very simple. Rush to judgment over a 72-hour story in which the woman will not give the tape? Are we giving this the same amount of time, Laura, as the Republicans gave Roy Moore, and the information regarding the Hope Hicks case? All that evidence (ph) that came out -- INGRAHAM: I'm trying to make a point. TERRELL: OK. INGRAHAM: Yes. I'm trying to make a point. TERRELL: I'm trying to understand the point. INGRAHAM: I'm trying to make point of media -- I'll explain it again. Maybe slowly for both -- TERRELL: OK. INGRAHAM: -- maybe I'm not being clear tonight. The media are aligned against the president. OK. I'm trying to now illustrate one way they are doing that. They are serious about the Me Too Movement, most avidly on a political level. I'm not talking about entertainment issue, just a political level, when it adversely affects this president. When it adversely affects the head of their party, it takes 72 hours -- that's a lot of time. And just today, they released this, you know, three line statement. And there are two women, I believe, who have come out now. And again, I say everybody is innocent. I think men and women who are accused are condemned before we know anything half the time and I'm not minimizing any allegations, but I think everybody needs to take a breath on some of this stuff. And I have said that repeatedly. And I defended Al Franken, by the way. I'm one of the few Republicans who defended Al Franken, so. TERRELL: Right. But look, AL FRANKEN got kicked out and let's not also forget John Conyers. All (inaudible) say, Laura, it's only been 72 hours, no evidence coming out, and you are a lawyer. You know as well as I do, let's see some evidence. There has been no evidence. But Monica didn't mention Roy Moore. Monica didn't mention Representative John Conyers got kicked out, along with Al Franken. CROWLEY: I did. TERRELL: So the Democrats had to grill him for hours. INGRAHAM: People know about him for years. People knew about him for years. I've been hearing about him -- I mean, that to me wasn't even news, but Monica, there is -- it's fun to look back on some of these montages. I think all allegations should be taken seriously but people shouldn't be condemned before actual facts come out, which I think everybody rushes to judgment. CROWLEY: Yes. And you and I have talked about this repeatedly, Laura, that there really is no due process -- INGRAHAM: No, forget it. CROWLEY: in this all Me Too Movement. But your point is a critical one about in the political sphere. If we're going to apply a standard, it should be applied equally across the board, and you just don't see that happening. And part of that is a function of the media, which is so hyper anti-Trump, you know, and hyper anti-conservative, hyper anti- Republican that you're not getting the same kind of treatment. I just think in Keith Ellison's case because he has long been considered a superstar, that checks a number of identity politics boxes for the Democrats, that he is somebody who they really have to protect. What they have to protect -- TERRELL: What box does Roy Moore, what box, why do you guys have protect Roy Moore? CROWLEY: I did not say Roy Moore. INGRAHAM: I wasn't for Roy More. I think Roy Moore, he was a disaster. I wasn't a defender of his at all. Don't lay that at my feet. CROWLEY: We are not talking about that. What we're talking about now are some credible allegations that have come against a superstar of the Democratic Party -- TERRELL: What are the allegations? Laura is a lawyer. Laura, asked Monica one question. What facts? Give me some facts. Laura, ask her one question. INGRAHAM: If there is an abuse allegation, there was an abuse allegation against Rob Porter's abuse allegation, against Al Franken -- everybody is making abuse allegations. I understand that. Our point is that the media have revealed themselves to be one-sided or at least in their average coverage, their over the coverage of these cases, when they are political, they are most focused on anyone connected to Trump or a Republican. I'm sorry, but that is just a fact and it's been that way for some time. Monica and Leo, thank you so much for being with us. And up next, an Ingraham Angle exclusive with Omarosa's closest confidant in the Trump administration. Lynne Patton is here. She'll set the story straight when we come back. INGRAHAM: Fired Trump aide Omarosa today released yet another audio recording she secretly recorded, this time featuring Trump campaign staffers Lynne Patton and Katrina Pierson discussing a rumor that President Trump was caught on tape using the n-word. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LYNNE PATTON, SENIOR ADVISER TO SECRETARY BEN CARSON: I've said, well, sir, can you think of any time that this might have happened? And he said, no. OMAROSA MANIGAULT NEWMAN, FORMER WHITE HOUSE AIDE: That's not true. PATTON: He goes, how do you think I should handle it. And I told him exactly what you just said, Omarosa, which is it depends on what scenario you are talking about. And he said, well, why don't you just go ahead and put it to bed? KATRINA PIERSON: He said it. No, he said it. He's embarrassed. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: President Trump vehemently denies that he's been ever caught on tape using a racial slur. Joining me now for reaction is one of the people you've heard on that recording, Lynne Patton, currently a senior advisor to Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson there. It is great to see you, Lynne. Thank you so much for joining us tonight. LYNNE PATTON, SENIOR ADVISER TO SECRETARY BEN CARSON: Yes, great to be here, Laura. Thank you. INGRAHAM: Tell us about that conversation that took place, the recording we just heard. It was just part of a recording from October of 2016, Omarosa, you, and Katrina Pierson. PATTON: Of course. And first I want to start off by saying thank you so much for retweeting my statement last night. I know it's been getting picked apart today, and that is really why I am here is because there is something seriously wrong with society when a woman can run around the White House and surreptitiously record people possibly in violation of her own national security contract. But yet Katrina and I are the one who have to come on national television and explain ourselves. I've made it very clear, and I stand by my statement that I released last night, that the audiotapes that she has released, first of all, conflate two different conversations. One is with me, Omarosa, and Katrina. The other is also with me, Omarosa, Katrina, and Jason. But the distinction is muddled. And what you are hearing, really, in my opinion, is not only verification that the president said very early on and very sternly and immediately that he did not use this derogatory term. But the more I hear this recording, what you are also hearing it a woman, Omarosa, who outright interrupts me during this interview and says, he said. That's a lie. And you know, why would she go work for him if that was the case? INGRAHAM: Was she interrupting you, you think, at that point in the recording? She knew she was recording it, and she wanted her own little insurance policy. She wanted to get it on the record that, oh, no, he said it, and -- PATTON: You raise a good point because even my boyfriend this morning has said to me that the reason why Omarosa kept bringing this elusive n-word tape up is because she used it as an opportunity to surreptitiously record me, obviously, Katrina, possibly other people. This was something -- Omarosa has been obsessed with the n-word since 2004 when on Oprah Winfrey she accused one of the "Apprentice" contestants of calling her the n-word. INGRAHAM: But you were a friend of hers, Lynne. And you are a very well- respected person within the administration. PATTON: Thank you. INGRAHAM: I've heard that from a lot of different people from a lot of different parts of the government. You are extremely well respected. So you said last night that you never participated in a conference call with Omarosa and Katrina, and yet then we hear a recording of you in a conference call with Omarosa. I read that and I was a little confused. How did you forget that? PATTON: I want to clarify, Laura. What I said expressly was that we refuted what Omarosa had told Chuck Todd and Savannah Guthrie, which was that we participated in a conference call that confirmed Frank Luntz had heard Donald Trump say the n-word. That never happened. INGRAHAM: OK. So you did participate in calls, but just not a call as it was described by her. PATTON: In fact we never denied we had multiple calls about the elusive n- word tape or "Apprentice" tape, because Omarosa, again, was obsessed with this imaginary and, quite frankly, fictitious figment of her imagination, which I now know to believe. But she was tracking down something that she created. INGRAHAM: Lynne, what kind of person as she? You were friends with her, right? PATTON: Yes. Obviously, she has known the president for 15 years, she was extremely loyal to him up until the day she wasn't. The president obviously is extremely loyal to people who are loyal to him. He gave her multiple, multiple chances. And what is really sad here, Laura, is that the president gave her an opportunity to really help the African-American community, and instead she did the exact opposite by blocking reputable Republicans, black Republicans, and influential members of the community to advance her own standing to the detriment of this White House. INGRAHAM: This was what she said today with Katy Tur responding to the president basically saying it's good that John Kelly fired her like a dog. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The president called to a dog this morning. What is your reaction? OMAROSA MANIGAULT NEWMAN, FORMER WHITE HOUSE AIDE: I think that it shows you that if he would say that publicly, what else would he say about me privately? He is absolutely no respect for women, for African- Americans, as evidenced by him instructing the chief of staff to lock me for two hours in the Situation Room to harass me, to threaten me and say that things could get very ugly for me and that there would be damage by reputation. He is unfit to be in this office and to serve as the president. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Your reaction, Lynne? PATTON: As I was saying earlier, the president has called a lot of people dogs. He's called Mark Cuban a dog. He's called Robert Pattinson a dog. He's called Bill Maher a dog. He's called Mitt Romney a dog. To me, that is not something that is either racial or specific to Omarosa. What he is doing is fighting back against somebody who has wronged him, and he has every right to do that by any means necessary. Omarosa is in what I consider a purgatory. Neither the right or the left wants to claim her. INGRAHAM: The left is taking her now, though. The left is glamming on to her now. Real quick, do you know why she was fired? Really, why she was fired? PATTON: I'm reading, just like everybody else, that it has to do with obviously grave violations of -- INGRAHAM: Was she riding around on a vehicle, a government vehicle, doing some errands? PATTON: I can actually verify that one time she asked me if -- I was with her at the White House. She said that she had to go meet somebody at this restaurant on Seventh Street. We both lived across the street from each other on Pennsylvania Avenue. We went via a White House car service to this restaurant. As soon as we walked in, she said, Lynne, don't turn around, but has the SUV left yet? And he was still sitting there, and she said, they are on to me. They are waiting to see if I come out of this restaurant, because it was really only two blocks away from her apartment. And it occurred to me what she was doing. And here I am, standing in the foyer of this restaurant with Omarosa trying to hide. And I said -- the hostess is looking at us, and I am mortified because I thought we were actually meeting somebody there. So this is her M.O. INGRAHAM: So she used government vehicles for personal trips -- PATTON: That was her M.O. INGRAHAM: Lynne, thank you so much for joining us tonight. PATTON: And I just want to say one last thing, Laura. The American people are sick of hearing about Omarosa. You said they are sick of hearing about Stormy Daniels and they are sick of hearing about collusion. It's time we focus on the things that they really need, jobs, economy, health care, and infrastructure. And that is what my boss is doing. And you wouldn't work for a racist president and neither would any of the people I know -- PATTON: You couldn't pay me enough money. There's not enough money in the world. INGRAHAM: Bingo. Lynne, thanks so much. PATTON: Thank you so much. INGRAHAM: Absolutely. And up next, a tip to you on how to get the full story from the media on immigration stories. Stay with us for that. INGRAHAM: A little tip for our viewers. Read past the headlines, especially as it relates to immigration sob stories. Like this one in the "Fresno Bee" about a deported dad who is missing his son's first birthday party. That is said. On the face of it, it sounds devastating until you read that ICE nabbed the father in court while he was dealing with a felony domestic abuse allegation that he pled down to a misdemeanor assault. And get this, some groups like the nonprofit Legal Aid at Work want rules that prevent ICE from arresting suspects in state court. Joining me now, Tom Homan, the former acting director of ICE, and immigration attorney Allen Orr. Tom, let's go to you. You know a little bit about this. ICE are now going to courthouses in order to nab some of these illegal immigrants. The argument is, people aren't going to report crimes because they might be illegal immigrants and they are going to these courthouses, and then they are going to be nabbed, too. Is that happening? THOMAS HOMAN, FORMER ACTING DIRECTOR OF ICE: No, it's not happening. It's a great policy. I signed it. It's my policy. It's ICE's policy not to arrest victims and witnesses of crimes, and no one can me one example we have arrested a victim or witness of a crime in court. The guidance is clear. We're looking for those who are criminals or fugitives or reentrants. INGRAHAM: Allen? ALLEN ORR, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: That is not what we are seeing. What we are getting is we're getting the low-hanging fruit in courtrooms, and what it's doing is keeping victims and other people from doing lawful things. So what we're saying is the immigrants that are here, that are in the judicial process, who deserve due process, as you said before in your former segment, are getting stopped and detained in court before they have their day in court. So therefore, they might have been charged but they haven't fully been through the court proceeding to be guilty of these crimes, and now they are being placed in deportation and removed from the country when most of them are married to U.S. citizens. INGRAHAM: Are they illegally in the country? ORR: They are undocumented in the country. INGRAHAM: They are not entitled then to be in the United States under U.S. law. They are deportable aliens. ORR: They are deportable aliens, but they're not MS-13 that we should be focusing on, and they are part of the low-hanging fruit. When we have the large, vast majority of people here that are documented, they are the people that we don't want to be departed. HOMAN: First of all, the policy is clear, we don't go to family court. We don't go to traffic court. We are talking about criminal court. Someone has been in the country illegally. And they've had their due process in federal court but they ignored that order, and they are hiding from the government. This is exactly where we need to arrest criminals, in jails and courthouses, because they are behind the wire. They don't have weapons, we know it. Judges protect themselves, senators protect themselves by security, why shouldn't ICE have that same protection from criminals, criminals in criminal courthouses? INGRAHAM: When I started reading this article, I got kind of sad. I'm like this is sad. He is missing -- his wife is an American citizen, his first kid's birthday. Then you have to read down and it says, well, they've has some recent domestic disturbances at the house, or turmoil. It sounds like the guy bashed his wife in the face. A lot of spouses are battered who want to stay -- I get that. But he is both illegally in the country, he is a wife abuser, and you are pleading his case, Allen? Or you think he should stay? ORR: His wife wanted him to stay. INGRAHAM: I don't care what she wants. She's not an illegal immigrant. ORR: And so what I'm saying is it's an overall resources argument. INGRAHAM: What cases aren't we pursuing today, are you aware of? Which ones? ORR: Exactly. So people with actual criminal charges, not immigration, not just being deportable, but actually having a criminal charge -- INGRAHAM: He was felony assault, he pled down to misdemeanor assault, apparently smashing his wife in the face -- ORR: In the charged, but he was going to a court proceeding to have an adjudication of that lower pleading. It was not a final resolution. HOMAN: Two things need to be talked about. We are talking about criminal courthouse, guys arrested for a crime. Second of all, this policy, it wasn't in a vacuum it was created. We worked with the conference of chief justices around the country. The chief justice in California agreed this is a good policy. We are talking about bad guys. And this is exactly where we should arrest them. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, out of time, but fantastic segment. We could do an hour just on this topic. It's very important on both sides. The left, by the way, is again suggesting that the president is a racist. Up next, TV icon Jimmie J.J. Walker tells us what he thinks. Don't miss it. INGRAHAM: President Trump street calling has highly disloyal fired aide Omarosa a, quote, "dog" has got the left once again calling him a racist and a misogynist. You would think they would try to come up with a new line of attack by now, but perhaps none went so far as Democratic congresswoman, the ever cowboy-hatted, Frederica Wilson. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. FREDERICA WILSON, (D) FLORIDA: The president of the United States is calling a woman of color a dog. How dare he? How dare he call anyone a dog? We have to stop him. We've got to send a blue wave through this country in the midterms. And then we've got to send a blue wave in November, and we'll shut down all of this racism. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining me now with perhaps a different take is comedic legend Jimmie J.J. Walker. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Jimmie, thanks for being here. Frederica Wilson is one of my favorites. She's the gift that keeps on giving. JIMMIE WALKER, ACTOR AND COMEDIAN: She's the best. I love her. INGRAHAM: Yes. So I think -- it seems that you have a much different take on the president and his state of mind than the rest of your peers in comedy. Explain why. WALKER: I think that we are at a point now that we need to get on board with America. And Donald Trump, as much as people may not like him on certain concrete levels, he is our president. And does he say everything correct? No. But is everybody correct on everything? No. We need to become Americans and root for America, and unite America. And I always say this, we are not the divided states of America. We are the United States of America. And Donald Trump is a guy that's not a politician. He's an action guy. INGRAHAM: Did you hear, Jimmie, sorry to interrupt, but did you hear about Spike Lee said the other day? He was asked about whether he thought Trump was the president, considered him president, and he said, I don't refer to him by name. I refer to him as only Agent Orange. WALKER: That was Spike's joke. The Trump administration, Spike has his best opening in the last 20 years. Under Trump administration, there are more women of color on major magazines, whether they be "Vogue," "Elle," whatever. America, get on board, and start defending Americans. Donald Trump is one of those guys that it is an American patriot. And America, as they used to say on "Saturday Night Live" for Donald Trump, has been very, very good to him. So he is not a guy that is trying to desecrate anything in America. And the majority of the country, even though he lost by 3 million votes, the majority of the country is for Trump. They are for the flag. I, myself, will always stand up for the flag, and I will always stand up for Donald Trump. Donald Trump is a guy that I would love to have dinner with, but on the other side, I would love to have dinner with Maxine Waters, too. I am not leaving anyone out. And this is what it seems that we are so fractured, so concrete against America. We have the best country in the world. INGRAHAM: We have the best country -- there is no better place to live, there is no better time to be an American, I think, in many decades, economically, then it is now. So why is it -- hold on, Jimmie -- why is it that the entire, with the exception of a few people, yourself included, why is the entire world of comedy now so politicized that -- I think, like, Stephen Colbert would literally wither up and melt into himself if there was a night when he couldn't discuss Trump. There is no other comedy other than Trump, and most of that comedy is fairly tedious and remedial. WALKER: There is not one pro Trump joke out there besides mine, of course, thank you. I think there is not one pro Trump joke out there, and that is unfortunate. I think we are at a point now that what people are doing is they are putting down -- I will go to the immigration policy. Even though taking kids at out of the arms or parents was not the best thing to do, if you look at what happened to the immigration policy, people were on line to get into America. There were lines of miles and miles -- there was no one on the other side trying to get out of America. People want in because they know the opportunity is here, they know the discussions are here. They know -- INGRAHAM: Jimmie, the left is in business of keeping us angry, and that is the entire entertainment industry. Again, most of the people who like Trump have gone underground, you are one of the few. It's either people who are -- you know, big in the '70s, big in the '80s, who are already established, already made it, they don't care about offending Jimmy Kimmel or Steven Spielberg or any of the other big league people. They don't care. But most people in Hollywood will not say anything even objectively positive about even the economy because that would tacitly be giving support to Trump. Close it out. WALKER: I think Trump is the guy for our times. And he is the best guy for right now. And we will see that as we go along. We will look at the economic policy, we will look at the policy in terms of our military, we will look at -- even for minorities, like I said. Most American minority women are on magazines now, more than -- INGRAHAM: Magazines, to me, magazines don't matter. The economy matters. Jobs matter. Opportunities matter. I think -- WALKER: Those are opportunities, too, Laura. INGRAHAM: I think that has been happening for some time, but I think the opportunities for all people of all colors I don't think you have been higher since the Reagan boom then they are right now. J.J., it's so great to talk to you. I want to have you back to talk about Hollywood and fatherhood at some point, because I want to talk about what happened in "Good Times" in the '70s and how their portrayal of fatherhood has changed throughout the decades and the entertainment industry. But it is so great to talk to you tonight. Thank you so much. WALKER: I will talk to any time. All you have to do is, as they say, call me. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Jimmie, thanks so much. And tonight was primary night across four states. Any surprises? Stay right there to find out. INGRAHAM: I started THE ANGLE tonight with a warning about the perils of socialism, and guess what, tonight two darlings of the socialist lest were the big winners. In Vermont, Bernie Sanders beat back his Democratic challenger, but he will renounce the win and run as an independent. OK. Code word, socialist. And as we noted earlier in Minnesota, Keith Ellison fought off domestic abuse allegations to win a chance to fight for that state's attorney general seat. Interesting direction for that party. We're going to see where they all end up. That's it for us tonight. Ed Henry is in for Shannon Bream. Load-Date: August 15, 2018 End of Document Anti-Trump FBI Agent Peter Strzok Fired; Media's Omarosa Obsession; Some in the Media Call Violent and Radical Protesters "Anti-Hate" Groups; President Trump's Attorney, Rudy Giuliani, Said that a Lot of People Need to be Accountable for Putting Up the Fake Dossier against President Trump, Which Led to the Russia Investigation; Former White House Aide, Omarosa Manigault-Newman, under Heavy Criticism after Writing a Book that Contains a Lot of Fabricated Stories about the President and His Cabinet and Now She Might Face Legal Problems Concerning Her Secret Tape Recording Inside the White House Briefing Room; President Trump's Daughter-in-Law, Laura Trump, Talks about the Unbelievable Ingratitude Omarosa Showed to the President Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 13, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7874 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Jeanine Pirro, Lou Dobbs, Catherine Herridge, Geraldo Rivera Guests: Rudy Giuliani, Frank Luntz, Darrell Scott, Laura Trump Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: You're only 10 seconds late. You don't know how to hit the post. Have you ever done radio in your life? You have to hit the post. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Six seconds, I'm actually listening in right now. HANNITY: Sixteen seconds over. CARLSON: Six seconds late. HANNITY: Good thing we actually follow each other so it doesn't mess up the reruns. Just saying. CARLSON: By the way, I've given you many, many seconds over the years. I'm just taking a few back. HANNITY: Oh, OK. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: All right, Tucker. Good to see you, great show. Welcome to HANNITY. Incredible breaking news night all over the place. The corrupt anti-Trump FBI agent Peter Strzok has finally been fired, the damage is done. A politically motivated Clinton exoneration, the partisan witch hunt against the president, the weaponization of the FISA court system against the Trump campaign and the incoming president and tonight, we are still asking where are the criminal referrals? Now, the president's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, will join us tonight. And meanwhile, your corrupt mainstream media has a brand-new obsession and her name? Omarosa. After secretly recording President Trump and the chief of staff John Kelly in the Situation Room, and despite major obvious credibility issues -- yes, your mainstream media is more than happy to push all the salacious, over-the-top claims that are in her new book. And coming up, we are going to highlight the media's new preoccupation. We will also cover the protests that this weekend in Washington, D.C., ignored by the media because four days, fake news CNN and conspiracy TV MSNBC and others, they have all been hyping, hyperventilating this rally as a major gathering of Klan-supporting wackos. Turns out about two dozen racist, apparently KKK sympathizing morons turned out and were completely dwarfed by scores of radical left-wing protesters, many even called for the president's assassination, and violence against the president. Oh, and the end of the United States of America. We have all that tape. We are warning you, it will be disturbing. Sit tight. We have a very busy news night. Tonight's breaking news opening monologue to start things off. (MUSIC) HANNITY: I have seven words tonight for Peter Strzok: you have the right to remain silent. Months after being outed as an anti-Trump-pro-Hillary operative, Strzok has been officially removed from the FBI. Now, today, President Trump reacted on Twitter. He wrote, quote: Agent Peter Strzok was just fired from the FBI. Finally, the list of bad players in the FBI, the DOJ gets longer and longer based on the fact that Strzok was in charge of the witch hunt, will it be dropped? great question. A total hoax, no collusion or obstruction, I just fight back. Now, Strzok was fired by the FBI deputy director. Now, the bureau's Office of Professional Responsibility, they only recommended only a demotion and temporary suspension. That's the problem. At this point, it is well-known Peter Strzok helped fix the 2016 investigation into Hillary Clinton, despite what were obvious felonies we have chronicled on this program where she mishandled classified top secret information on a private server where she clearly obstructed justice. Don't do this at home. If you have subpoenaed emails don't get to delete them, acid wash them with Bleach Bit and bust your devices into little itsy bitsy pieces. If you do, I promise you, you will likely be charged. Remember, it was Peter Strzok. He personally worked on all of this, along with James Comey, to prevent her from being indicted. This case was open and shut from the get-go and it was Strzok who helped draft the exoneration of Clinton, months before she was interviewed along with 17 other people, softening the tone of Comey's original letter, changing the language from the legal standard of gross negligence to extreme carelessness. And it was Strzok who actually lead the interview of Clinton himself before she was officially cleared only three days later. The president tweeted, quote: Just fired agent Strzok, formerly of the FBI, was in charge of the crooked Hillary Clinton sham investigation. It was a total fraud on the American public and should be properly redone. Now, of course, Peter Strzok's corrupt actions didn't end with Hillary Clinton. He was also with the very center of the FBI's initial witch hunt into so-called Trump-Russia collusion. He's the one that texted his FBI mistress Lisa Page on his FBI phone that he would, quote, stop it, stop Trump from becoming president. And it was Strzok that texted that the investigation was like a, quote, insurance policy in the unlikely event that Trump actually won the election. Now, among hundreds of anti-Trump tax, it was Peter Strzok who called Donald Trump an idiot, abysmal among other things. He's the one that said that Hillary should win 100 million to zero. He's not biased? Strzok who also wrote he could smell those of us that supported Trump at a Walmart in Southern Virginia, probably bitterly clinging to our God, guns, Bible and religion, oh, we're the irredeemable deplorables that apparently smell. And in June, remember, the office of inspector general reported Strzok's actions were, quote, not only indicative of a biased state of mind that he had been even more seriously, it implies a willingness to take official action to impact the presidential candidates' electoral prospects. Yes, what we've been saying. Now, despite all of this, a very smug Peter Strzok testified on Capitol Hill really that he wasn't biased at all. That's a joke, but take a look yourself. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PETER STRZOK, THEN-FBI AGENT: Let me be clear, unequivocally and under oath, not once in my 26 years of defending our nation did my personal opinions impact any official action I took. There is simply no evidence of bias in my professional actions. I am stating to you it is not my understanding that he kicked me off because of any bias, that it was done based on the appearance. If you want to represent what you said accurately, I'm happy to answer that question but I don't appreciate what was originally said being changed. REP. TREY GOWDY (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: I don't give a damn what you appreciate, Mr. Strzok. REP. BOB GOODLATTE (R), VIRGINIA: You texted Ms. Page, quote: Just went to a Southern Virginia at Walmart. I could smell the Trump support -- and smell is in capital letters, all capital letters. What does Trump support smell like Mr. Strzok? STRZOK: Sir, that's an expression of speech. I clearly wasn't smelling one thing or the other. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Really? Now, only hours ago, House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy reacted to Strzok getting canned and said that another deep state official would soon be called in for testimony. We are slowly but surely unpeeling the onion and getting to the bottom of all of this. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GOWDY: We're going to interview him on August 20th. I'm going to come back to Washington. I'm going to leave my beloved South Carolina and I'm going to go back and I'm sure others will too. Jimmy and Mark and Radcliffe, we're going to be back and we're going to interview Bruce Ohr, not in a public circus setting, but any deposition with no time limits and we're going to get to the bottom of what he did, why he did it, who he did it in concert with, whether he had the permission of the supervisors at the Department of Justice. It is -- I used to work doing what Bruce Ohr does now. It is unbelievable that a prosecutor would insert himself into an ongoing investigation for which he had nothing to do. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: This kind of corruption in this country better not go unpunished from Ohr, from Strzok, McCabe, Comey, anybody else that clearly abused their power. If we're going to be a functioning democratic republic, our system of justice must be free of all political bias and political persecution, and that's why tonight, Strzok, Ohr, McCabe, Comey, others, they better be willing to face the legal consequences. Oh, and by the way, Hillary. Rod Rosenstein, are you watching? Jeff Sessions, where are the criminal referrals? What's happening? You know what, I know the trial of the century is Paul Manafort, but it's not. Look at the list of DOJ FBI bad actors as it grows. What are you doing to hold these people accountable? What is taking so long in this country? And as Mueller's anti-Trump witch hunt churns on and on and on, where is justice against those that weaponize your government against the political campaign. And then, of course, we had spying and unmasking and everything else associated with this. It's time they better act or they need to step aside. And, by the way, as a side note, Mr. Mueller, I know somebody is your team is watching if not you. Your buddy Mr. Strzok, he taints every single aspect of your witch hunt. We'll have more on this in a moment. But, first, it is time to report the mainstream media's brand new obsession of the week which is Omarosa. Remember, she was fired from her position as a White House aide back in December, but she is now hawking a new book with many salacious, over-the-top claims about President Trump. Sean Spicer, I spoke with him earlier tonight, said her claim that he was paid to praise Trump and other things she'd been saying are all totally bogus. Trump campaign spokesperson Katrina Pierson, I also spoke to about an hour ago, called Omarosa disloyal, unhinged -- and she claims that Trump is racist and everything else she said -- and says that things that Omarosa is now saying are also not true, and disputing things that she says in her interviews. Pollster Frank Luntz who will join us in a moment, he called Omarosa's claim that he heard Trump use a racial slur flat out false. Big question tonight, how does a publisher in this day and age of lawsuits, how do they not fact-check any of these claims? How does any self-respecting publisher allow this to go to print? Why didn't they bring in the lawyers? Now, even "The New York Times", remember, they did a profile, yours truly with that very handsome, well-thought out picture of me? Now, I didn't agree with every angle or every point in the article or this hideous despicable picture of me even though they had a thousand other choices to choose from, but on things like this, even "The New York Times" I'm not a fan of, they were fact-check twice facts, not necessarily the commentary. So, they did their job. Where is the publisher here? And remember, it was only a few months ago before that she was fired, Omarosa nothing but praise for the president. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OMAROSA MANIGAULT NEWMAN, FORMER WHITE HOUSE STAFFER: Donald Trump is a very kind person. He has a really good heart. I spent time with him and his children and his family, and you can look at his family and see how close-knit they are. He's not going anywhere, he has staying power. Ask me if I would vote for him. I'm a journalist first and foremost, but I'm also interested in watching the political process unfold. He's like the Tiger Woods of politics. In my experience, Craig, which is why you haven't here, I've never seen Donald Trump acted appropriately with women. He's always been very respectful. I stand with Donald Trump because I know that he has an incredible vision for this country and he will indeed make America great not just for this group or that group, but for everyone. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And over the weekend, Omarosa released secret recordings of Chief of Staff John Kelly and the general inside the Situation Room. She also released a phone call between her and President Trump that allegedly took place shortly after she was fired. The question I have tonight and the rest of the media won't even ask, how is it possible for someone to get a phone in the Situation Room? How is it legal to secretly record the president of the United States of America? Now, frankly, this shouldn't happen to a Republican, a Democrat, Obama, Bush, Trump, it's completely insane. Now, not only does this exemplify poor character, but it should also be illegal. And, by the way, there should be consequences for those that do such things. But despite all of the very serious flaws and what is now all these claims in the book, the media is not turning and running wall-to-wall with any coverage, all coverage, all Omarosa all the time. According to Newsbusters, the network literally dedicated a whopping 93 minutes of coverage for this former Trump aide. Here's a small sampling of the coverage that just the past two days. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The back and forth between Omarosa and President Trump seems to be getting heated. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Former White House staffer Omarosa Manigault Newman is out with another secret recording. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa Manigault Newman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa Manigault Newman making explosive claims against her former employer. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa was hired by Donald Trump multiple times. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, wherever she goes, Omarosa has a reality show following. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Omarosa made some serious accusations. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Omarosa was brought in by Donald Trump's own words. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Fired White House staffer Omarosa Manigault Newman. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We've seen in the White House take steps over the past few days to discredit Omarosa. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The Omarosa offensive. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Omarosa tapes. (END VIDEO CLIPS) HANNITY: More evidence of Trump derangement syndrome at its best. Now, while the media is salivating at the mouth over the Omarosa story, they also made up time to hype up this weekend's rally that took place in Washington, D.C. They said hordes and hordes and hordes of racist white nationalists were expected to attend. In reality, you have two dozen racists, disgusting ignorant racist morons that actually showed up. In fact, the counter-protest was filled with Antifa and other far left demonstrators. It was far larger. The media called them anti-Trump protesters. They celebrated their righteous presence at the rally, but in reality, we have found many were not anti-Trump protesters or anti-hate protesters. They were anti-Trump. Some called for the end of borders, the end of the United States of America. And no, I'm not making this up. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PROTESTERS: No borders, no walls, no USA at all. No borders, no walls, no USA at all! (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No borders, no walls, no USA at all? And, by the way, other so-called anti-hate protesters even called for the assassination of the president. No I'm not making this up. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) REPORTER: What would you do if Donald Trump showed up? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Murder him. Murder him for the people. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If it came down to it and it was a group effort, we would have to do him like Gadhafi. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If I get a chance to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) him up, I would. REPORTER: If the president showed up at this march, what would you do, sir? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Beat his (EXPLETIVE DELETED) REPORTER: Beat his (EXPLETIVE DELETED) REPORTER: If Trump showed up today, what would you do, sir? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'd throw (EXPLETIVE DELETED) bell at him. REPORTER: You'd throw a bell at him? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, why not? (END VIDEO CLIPS) HANNITY: It's only a small sampling of the tape that we have available. I don't have all night to show it. So, there you have what CNN fake news called anti-hate protesters. And they wonder why the American people don't trust them. I've told you, journalism in America is dead, it's buried. Right here on "Hannity", we always make an effort to be fair and balanced because we will not be the destroy-Trump media. It makes us different. Joining is now, the author of "The New York Times" best seller, number one "New York Times" bestseller, "Liars, Leakers and Liberals: The Case Against the Anti-Trump Conspiracy," Judge Jeanine Pirro. The host of "Lou Dobbs Tonight", on our sister network, the Fox Business Network, he's got the number one show there, congratulations. Good to both -- number one, number one, here we go. I don't know where to start. JEANINE PIRRO, AUTHOR, "LIARS, LEAKERS AND LIBERALS": I don't either. HANNITY: And, by the way, we also have our own FOX News investigative reporter Sara Carter. I didn't mean to forget you, you are number one to me, Sara. (LAUGHTER) SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: Let me start with you. You have a new report out tonight. I'll let you put it in your own words. CARTER: Well, I have a report out tonight. I spoke to a number of FBI agents, former FBI agents, one in particular that works for OPR, and we were talking and discussing about Peter Strzok and the fact that OPR was only going to give him a 60-day suspension, basically a slap on the wrist and demotion, and he was saying it was incredible that deputy director -- FBI Deputy Director David Bowdich did the right thing. Remember, Peter Strzok was involved in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court application that went before the secret court to spy on Carter Page and the biggest part of the story that everyone is missing. This isn't about anti-Trump text messages. This is about the fact that they omitted and they withheld information from the court. That is a flagrant violation they said of the court and abuse of the court. And this is probably the real reason why Peter Strzok was dismissed. You know, there's a lot of questions that are going to be coming out, particularly with Bruce Ohr and his deposition. If he chooses not to turn up for the deposition on August 28th with Congress, he will be subpoenaed, but there are a lot of questions they're going to have for Bruce Ohr about Peter Strzok, and why so much information was withheld from the FISC court. And I think that's where this is going, Sean. That is going to be one of the biggest stories because withholding information is a violation that the FISC court just can't withstand. HANNITY: That's a FISA court, for those -- FISA court, FISA applications, FISC. CARTER: Yes, the secret court. HANNITY: Or FISA, two separate things but the same thing. Let me go to the legality of this, Judge, and more importantly how this would impact. He taints every single thing that supposedly Robert Mueller is looking into. PIRRO: Exactly, and I talked about it in my open this week. If Robert Mueller's investigation is premised on Peter Strzok's information or lack thereof when he testified before Congress and said I can't tell you this because the FBI wants me to keep it secret, and then when the FBI says you can talk, he says, I don't remember. If the basis of the FBI investigation is the fake counterintelligence investigation started by Peter Strzok then Mueller goes down and the actions of Mueller goes down, and the whole investigation. HANNITY: The legitimacy has been questioned in the Manafort case and others and because of the wide, deep mandate was basically, oh, investigate 2005 taxes that have nothing to do with Russia or the election. PIRRO: Right. HANNITY: They allowed for that. PIRRO: They did allow for that. But, you know, I still -- I'm a believer. I still think that hope springs eternal. HANNITY: You are a believer? Really? You're a believer that investigations weren't fixed? You're a believer that FISA courts weren't lied to? PIRRO: No, no, no. I'm a believer that in the end, justice will meted out. HANNITY: If Hillary Clinton won, there would be no justice, we wouldn't even know this information. PIRRO: You're right. You're right. HANNITY: Lou? LOU DOBBS, FBN HOST: We wouldn't -- we wouldn't know it, but what we do know right now is enough to make anyone's head spin. We know that the special counsel was conflicted from the very beginning. Mueller should never have been appointed. The special counsel should never have been created. And it's easy to lose sight of what this is all about. It starts really with Peter Strzok. He made the decision not to prosecute Hillary Clinton. HANNITY: With Comey. They were writing the exoneration in May. DOBBS: But he was leading the investigation. He helped James Comey write the letter that famously went from gross negligence, which was actionable on the part of the Justice Department guidelines, to extreme carelessness, which gave them a way out to avoid to persecute. HANNITY: That's the legal standard to the non-legal standard. DOBBS: But this is again, Strzok. It is also Strzok leading the investigation when the FBI was in charge of the Russian collusion charge and that narrative could have laid the foundation for the special counsel. HANNITY: Let me go to the start of where this all began, because we don't believe, Sarah, that it began as the left and the media has been advancing a narrative about George Papadopoulos and the Australian guy and meeting over drinks and it just happen randomly. We believe it began way before, correct? CARTER: Yes, absolutely. I've spoken with George Papadopoulos' wife Simona and she testified before Congress and she was emphatic before Congress she told me through the questioning behind closed doors. That there were so many players coming at her husband, you know, from Stephen Halper in Great Britain to Mifsud, the professor, and all these people appeared to be giving information, trying to lure George Papadopoulos in, trying to give information that would eventually be able to be used against him by the FBI. HANNITY: Yes. CARTER: And, you know, the special counsel went so far, Sean, as to threaten him. They threatened that they were going to charge him with being an Israeli spy. They kept threatening him over and over again until he pleaded guilty to one count of lying. Their lives have been ruined. But, look, this is what the special counsel does. It has great expanse of power and that was given to them by Rod Rosenstein, who actually signed the fourth warrant on Carter Page to spy on him. HANNITY: Well, that's the one we all really want to see and need to see because at that point we knew Hillary paid for it. We knew it was the bulk of the information to obtain the FISA warrants. Let me shift gears just remotely here. Let me go to this weekend. In a sense, with all the hype leading up to the protest yesterday, the fact that you have, you know, maybe 30 ignorant racist morons that show up at this rally shows that this narrative that Republicans and conservatives support these idiots, that's not true even though it gets said every election. But more importantly, the media says, well, they are anti-hate. But I have tapes that go on for, you know, minutes of people saying they want to punch the president, be violent against the president, assassinate the president -- a lot of people. PIRRO: OK. DOBBS: Destroy America. HANNITY: Destroy -- yes, that's right. No border, no wall, no border, no USA at all. PIRRO: Here's the point: the media is going along with this theme that they are antifascist. They are not antifascist. They are the essence of fascism. And, by the way, the right, the KKK, the white nationalist, you know, 24 of them. At the end of the day, that's what -- that's not what it was about and I decry and detest everything they stand for. Let me make that clear. But when you go out there dressed up in a ninja get-up as Antifa and tell people what they can read and not read, then that is fascism in America. And they decry us and say that they should kill us. HANNITY: But there has been a pattern of violent rhetoric. Robert de Niro, Madonna, I can keep going. You know the list, you play it on your show. DOBBS: Absolutely. And these guys dressed up with their masks and their pajamas and the just ignorance they display. First of all, why isn't local law enforcement enforcing the law? There is no right to be violent on the streets anywhere in America and yet, they are being permitted because of Democratic administrations and jurisdictions whether they'd be city or county, that are permitting this. They have bought into this violence. PIRRO: They actually got to stand down. HANNITY: Has the media contributed to the hate rhetoric that -- because it sounds -- I mean, Hollywood, anyone, are they contribute into this atmosphere where we've never heard somebody say they want to assassinate the president? PIRRO: But they're normalizing it. They are normalizing it by repeating it over and over again. HANNITY: Real quick. We're almost done. CARTER: And it's extraordinarily dangerous, Sean. It's extraordinarily dangerous. HANNITY: Lou, the last word. CARTER: Yes. HANNITY: Very quickly. This is -- the left wing national media by calling this anti-hate demonstrations and protests as they spew rhetoric that is violent, assassinate the president, destroy America, where is the hate? HANNITY: Thank you all. When we come back, Catherine Herridge live report on all of this. Rudy Giuliani, also Laura Trump, a busy news night. Stay with us. HANNITY: All right. The prosecution rests in the Manafort case and Strzok is fired. With the very latest is our own Fox News Chief Intelligence Correspondent, Catherine Herridge. Busy day today, Catherine. CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CHIEF INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Sean, and good evening. The FBI is not commenting on Strzok's termination tonight which frankly is standard because the bureau doesn't publicly discuss personnel matters. What's important is that Strzok is now at least the sixth senior official to be fired, demoted or leave government service altogether since the scandal broke last year. In the lengthy statement, Strzok's lawyer said the FBI's deputy director overruled the bureau's disciplinary review. They recommended a 60 day suspension and demotion, implying that the decision was political. Strzok, who dodged Fox's questions last month, recently testified under oath that his politics never infected his work. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STRZOK: Like many people, I had an expressed personal political opinions during an extraordinary presidential election. But let me be clear, unequivocally and under oath, not once in my 26 years of defending our nation did my personal opinions impact any official action I took. (END VIDEO CLIP) HERRIDGE: Strzok's attorney also singled out the FBI Director Christopher Wray, alleging that Strzok's termination was a departure from, quote, typical bureau practice, and, quote, contradicts Director Wray's testimony to Congress and his recent public assurances. Director Wray recently responded to questions about Strzok and others. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRISTOPHER WRAY, FBI DIRECTOR: There is a pending personnel matter and as I said I want to make sure we're doing things following our process, doing things by the book. Our inspector general report has referred a number of individuals through our disciplinary process and I think it's very, very important that we let that process without delay work itself through and get to a result as opposed to responding to hue and cry. (END VIDEO CLIP) HERRIDGE: In a separate development late today, the prosecution rested its case in the trial of Paul Manafort, the president's former campaign chairman, on bank and tax fraud charges. A Treasury Department official was the last witness for the prosecution, taking the stand for a second time testifying, that Manafort's company with Rick Gates - - or rather Rick Gates, the government's star witness, never filed paperwork for its foreign bank accounts. The judge allowed this testimony but he was careful to remind the jury that the government had a chance to indict Manafort's company and chose not to, emphasizing to the jury only Mr. Manafort is on trial and we will learn tomorrow morning if Manafort's defense team will call witnesses and present its own evidence, Sean. HANNITY: It's going to be interesting. They may not. HERRIDGE: They may not. HANNITY: So here with the reaction is President Trump's personal attorney, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Let me start with Mueller. How is this case impacted because Strzok is at the heart of all of it. He didn't claim-- (CROSSTALK) RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ATTORNEY: Well, I mean, he has played a much bigger role in this than a lot of the media wants to admit. First of all, he was there at the very beginning. He wrote all the initial documents justifying this investigation. He ran it for 11 months. He conducted the critical interview with Flynn with a very strange situation where Flynn pled guilty to a lie that the FBI said he wasn't guilty of, go figure that out. He's the one who was carrying the dossier and using the dossier to justify the FISA wires. That has to be all unraveled. There is no doubt that there are four false affidavits filed with the FISA. HANNITY: Fraud. GIULIANI: Fraud. Lying in an affidavit to the FISA court. The guy responsible for those is largely Strzok, he gathered the evidence, not evidence. The dossier is absurd. I read -- it's totally ridiculous. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's a political document bought and paid for. It's a Russian document. GIULIANI: It's as provably false things. Like Cohen was in fraud. He wasn't brought (Ph), it says that there were real estate deals with the Russians. There were no real estate deals with the Russians. It has Trump-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: (Inaudible) Those in bed-- GIULIANI: Yes, it he was with the -- I mean, they have evidence he was with hookers in a bed. HANNITY: Debunked. GIULIANI: Yes, debunked. Completely debunked. It got the dates all wrong. It's a cut and paste job by an ex-spy, English spy who hated Trump. HANNITY: Hated? GIULIANI: And was paid by Hillary Clinton and the DNC! HANNITY: But they spread this information, Mr. Mayor. GIULIANI: The document-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They lie to the American people too, and lied to the court. GIULIANI: And the Justice Department, the Trump Justice Department is hiding those affidavits. On the grounds that the affidavits contained national security information. My goodness. Here are the things we need to know about it. Was the fact that Hillary Clinton and the DNC, the people who paid, was that pointed out to the judge? HANNITY: Right. GIULIANI: Because if it wasn't you've got a glaring omission. Was it pointed out that Steele during the course of this was fired by the FBI? Were his problems in his background exposed to the judge? When you present this guy was he presented as a fully reliable informant or were the questions -- you have to do that in an affidavit. I've read many of these affidavits. HANNITY: He never told the court in these applications that Hillary paid for it. They purposely withheld that information. GIULIANI: Well, that would have been -- that would have been -- that would have been a nonstarter. HANNITY: But they never verified any of the information there anyway. GIULIANI: Here's the point, Strzok created a false document. When we say is there any evidence that his bias led to action that he took against Trump? Yes. He perjured himself to tape it in order to start his insurance policy investigation. They were hoping they could do something with that before the election but they ran into the same problem Mueller ran into. The president didn't do anything wrong. They couldn't find any evidence. They struck out. A couple of days before he was inaugurated they had to proclaim there was no evidence of collusion, which is not a crime anyway. HANNITY: Is there any updates since you were on with us last and that is that responded to Mueller in terms of any potential that there will be a discussion with the president? GIULIANI: No, they think they have all the time in the world, I guess. I don't know, they haven't responded. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You said it should be over by September. GIULIANI: Well, I think that we are running into a real big problem for them. If they try to drag this thing much into September, you've got a very clear violation of the Justice Department policy not to interfere with elections. Comey was just excoriated by that, for that by Horowitz. It will be just be another list of the irregularities, their unethical performance, their unwillingness to follow sensible rules. They could have done this -- we could have concluded this interview thing two months ago and decided yes or no on it. Their report to be done by now. It looks like they are slowing down. They are running out the clock. HANNITY: the media would look at the 2005 tax case that has nothing to do with Russia, nothing to do with the campaign, nothing to do with the president. Manafort tax case from 2005 is the trial of the century. OK. That gave -- well that's really how they are portraying it. But more seriously, when we talk about Strzok and Comey and McCabe and Page and all of these other people in the FBI and the DOJ at the highest levels, do you see crimes? GIULIANI: Absolutely. I just told you one. The perjury on the affidavit. I was telling about Hillary crimes a year before Comey outlined them all. I'm pretty good on taking out crimes. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How did she get -- how did she got off scot-free in all of this? GIULIANI: She got off because of that fixed investigation. A totally phony fixed investigation-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: She will be indicted. GIULIANI: -- run by Peter Strzok who then turns around, the dossier is obtained on the day that they dropped the case against Trump -- against Hillary. That case gets dropped so they had to even up the score and go after Trump. HANNITY: The next day. GIULIANI: The next day. Now the reality is I'm going to tell you. I don't have the time to go into it so we can do it later, I'm going to tell you who was the quarterback for all of this. Strzok he is a bit of a puppet. There's Mueller, he's a puppet. The people working for him are, some of them are really-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I have a funny feeling you are about to drop a bomb on me. Go ahead. GIULIANI: But the guy running is Brennan and he should be in front of a grand jury. HANNITY: It is Brennan. GIULIANI: Brennan-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The former CIA director. GIULIANI: Brennan took an affidavit, a dossier that-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He gave it to Harry Reid. GIULIANI: -- unless he is the biggest idiot intelligence agent that ever existed although he never really did much intelligence work. It's false. You can look at it and laugh at it. And he peddled it to Harry Reid. HANNITY: Immediately. GIULIANI: That led to the request for the investigation. So he takes a false affidavit, a false dossier, he gets the senators involved, a couple of Republican senators and they demand an investigation. A totally phony investigation. Now why can't we get an investigation when there are clear facts showing possible violations of the law? Even in the-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Why can't we? GIULIANI: -- even in the order appointing Mueller, which is completely illegitimate, they don't point out any crime. You have to point out a crime under the independent counsel regulations. They don't point out. We have lots of crimes and we can't get -- we can't get Sessions to move and appoint an independent counsel. He's -- look, he's recused from it. He's recused from everything. And Rosenstein, it's too much involved in it and their possible witnesses. HANNITY: You mean, Rosenstein signed the last FISA warrant. GIULIANI: Well that's why he's a possible witness and possible anything else. HANNITY: Mr. Mayor, great to see you. GIULIANI: OK. HANNITY: Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. GIULIANI: Independent counsel to investigate the investigators. HANNITY: When we come back, Frank Luntz will respond to a claim of Omarosa that she is making about him. Geraldo Rivera, Pastor Darrell Scott, and Laura Trump, all coming up straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Former Trump aide Omarosa is now making controversial claims in her new book. Many of her claims are coming under huge fire including by pollster Frank Luntz. He tweeted, quoted, "I'm in Omarosa's book page 149. She claims to have heard from somewhere who heard from me that I heard Trump use the n-word. Not only is this flat-out false, I never heard such a thing. Omarosa didn't even make that effort to call or e-mail me to verify shoddy work." Frank Luntz is with us now. Also with us the author of the "Geraldo Show," fox News correspondent at large, Geraldo Rivera. Pastor of the New Spirit Revival Center, CEO of the National Diversity Coalition for the president, Darrell Scott. Frank, not only did you make those comments, I called Sean Spicer before the show tonight. I called Katrina Pierson before the show tonight. They both make the same claims as you do and I'm shocked that the publisher didn't fact-check anything apparently. FRANK LUNTZ, REPUBLICAN POLLSTER: As a writer, I hold the writer responsible. I've done three books and if I get something wrong, even the spelling error, that's my job to fix it. There's no accountability and I'm going to acknowledge something here. I've never liked the term fake news. I believe that very often it's biased or one-sided. HANNITY: No, it's fake. LUNTZ: I don't think it's made up. This book is made up. And there's no reason -- and after tonight we should not spend any time talking about it because quite frankly there's no value in it. And this is one of the reasons why Donald Trump has the favorability rating that he does despite the criticisms of the media. It's because when people go at him, when they challenge them, they do so with things that have no credibility whatsoever. It's simply not believable and it allows Trump to become even stronger and more effective. This is, it's part of why the media has gotten it wrong and it's part of a wake-up call, stop lying, starts telling the truth, give the American people what they deserve, the facts and nothing but the facts. HANNITY: Let m go to you, Geraldo. You've known Donald Trump for what, three decades or longer, your reaction to all this? GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT AT LARGE: Four. HANNITY: Four decades. You are much older than I am. RIVERA: Well, you know, you and I were out Thursday night with both either. That's the kind of relationship I had with the president back in the day. There were plenty of times in public and in private where guys are guys and people are saying this and that. He never, ever uttered any word or phrase that could be remotely considered racist or racial. It is an absolute canard. It is a lie. And for her to tape, to secretly tape the White House chief of staff and other aides and the president of the United States, even in the secure situation room, it goes beyond what Frank I think accurately describes as a shoddy piece, as a piece of fiction. It is something that imperils the national security. And it is to me, interesting that Omarosa, the most reviled public figure in reality TV history suddenly became the darling of so many in the media, why? Because she was attacking the president of the United States, Sean. HANNITY: You know, pastor, I became fond of Omarosa. I saw somebody beyond the reality TV show. Then I think the president saw. And then I talked to - - I've known Frank for decades. I've known Sean Spicer for such a long time. Katrina Pierson. I've known you and when they say that there wasn't even fact-checked, I'm pretty shocked at the publisher to be honest, that they would allow it. DARRELL SCOTT, NEW SPIRIT RIVAL CHURCH FOUNDER & PASTOR: I am too. You know, I met Omarosa through President Trump and we became friends. I'm surprised she's went scorched earth and all of the conversations her and I have had as two African-Americans on the campaign trail along with, you know, Katrina Pierson, Lyn and -- Diamond and Silk and a few others. She never, ever even insinuated even remotely insinuated that the president was racist. In fact, she defended him very vigorously and she even gave me talking points on episodes from her life where he was just a help to her and family members. I think her brother died or whatever and he helped then. And even with, you know, she told me about how much he helped her before, during and after the apprentice, helped her get deals, kept her in his orbit, in his loop and even when she goes on to say that she was offered hush money, I don't see where somebody offering you a job, a landing space after you lose one job and they offer you another job paying similar or not the same amount of money. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me-- SCOTT: I don't see how that's hush money. I thought that was him being a friend and looking out for her as a friend would look out for another friend. HANNITY: Frank, I've got to imagine that there is if you're so desired you would have a legal claim. Where do you stand on that? LUNTZ: I don't believe in propagating things that aren't true. I believe in accountability and it's the number one value that Americans want in Washington. And the number one value they want from the news media above everything else is the truth. So whatever we can do to bring accountability and the truth to your viewers and all viewers across America we are doing a good thing. Suing someone like that, that doesn't prove anything. HANNITY: Geraldo, last word. RIVERA: I just think that if the president can be faulted for anything it is hiring this person who he should have said you are fired. HANNITY: Wow. OK, we'll leave it there. For somebody who was noted for that I don't think he likes to fire people. Interesting. All right, when we come back the president's daughter-in-law Laura Trump weighs in on this and much more straight ahead. HANNITY: Joining us now is President Trump's daughter-in-law, senior advisor to Donald J. Trump for president, meaning the real back in 2020, Laura Trump is with us. How are you? Great to see you. Congrats, the baby is walking at 11 months. LAURA TRUMP, DONALD TRUMP'S DAUGHTER-IN-LAW: He's almost a year old, it's crazy! HANNITY: Wow. And walking? TRUMP: And walking. HANNITY: When he starts he step, step, boom! And you're like. TRUMP: I try to catch them. I try to catch them in our camp but they go really fast. HANNITY: Well, you get till they get like we had a playground at my house and I'm flinching like every time my son is climbing like a maniac on it. And finally one day it disappeared and I said we are getting a new one and I never kept that promise. I broke it on purpose. TRUMP: I'm not even going to make the first mistake with getting it. HANNITY: It's true. Let me start with Omarosa. TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: You know her well. TRUMP: I did, I did. I considered her a friend. I'm incredibly disappointed in her and more than anything I'm just so sad because what an incredible opportunity she wasted. You know, the president gave her the chance to make a difference, to take care of people that she claimed to care about and here she has squandered it for this fictitious, ridiculous book and obviously she has shown her true colors. But the thing that I'm so proud of is that the president gave her that chance. You know, and this is a man that has done this his whole life. Throughout his business career Donald Trump is giving people the opportunity to better themselves. A doormen becoming executives in the company, you know, that are still there today and here she had this great opportunity squandered. It's sad. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I feel like because she I saw her at the White House. I saw her not that long ago and I felt that for whatever reason, you're right, the opportunity for her in my opinion was squandered and almost it raise back to, I guess this reality TV thing, which is now a look at what it's become. TRUMP: Well, I guess it's anything for an easy buck and you turn your back on people that are good to you and take care of you and stand up for you and it's a shame. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But Katrina Pierson, Frank Luntz, Sean Spicer, all contradicting and the book publisher never even fact- checked a single thing. TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: That shocked me. TRUMP: All of it is so shocking but honestly it's unfortunately becoming day to day all the time. You know, we see this kind of thing happening left and right, nobody fact-checks anymore. Any of these articles, any of these news reports, nothing. HANNITY: It's also scary when the president of the United States of America can legally be taped. I have a huge problem with that. I have a problem with anybody taping anything in the situation room. How those things are not illegal or even allow and we don't have the means to stop it bothers me. TRUMP: You know what? I wish Omarosa good luck because I think she's going to need a lot of it. HANNITY: All right. Let me go to -- you're working on the 2020 campaign. TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: You're in charge of it all. We got a 2018 campaign in 85 days from today. TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: To me it's the most important midterm. Nancy Pelosi wants to impeach. Get her crumbs back, open borders. If she wants the crumbs, and keep Obamacare, and stop the investigations into the biggest abuse of power, that's a problem for me. TRUMP: Well, what I always say to people is if you are happy with what you have seen happy in this country since Donald Trump took office, if you're happy with the tax cut that this country has received, which were a lot more than crumbs, Sean, as we all know. If you are happy with the fact that we are safer as a country, that GDP is at 4.1 percent, that people have the lowest unemployment in many respects that they've ever had in the history of this country, then the most important thing that people can do is get out and vote in the midterm elections. It's almost as important if not more important than electing Donald Trump president because we have to keep this going. HANNITY: It really for the Democrats I don't see a positive thing. It's about they hate this president. If you've dealt with it, your whole family has dealt with it. TRUMP: Yes. I mean, it's really sad, it's a shame. But what you see is that they have no platform, they have no leader, no message. Now they have socialists that are championing their party. HANNITY: Whole today most (Inaudible) most Democrats believe in socialism. TRUMP: It's really scary and I think people in this country are going to pay attention. They are paying attention to people like Maxine Waters who is absolutely insane and really giving the Democrats a bad name and I think they are going to vote Republican come November. HANNITY: All right. Great to see you. Congrats the baby is walking at 11 months. TRUMP: Thank you. HANNITY: You have a lot of those days ahead of you. TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: All right. Good to see you. TRUMP: Thank you. HANNITY: When we come back, a truly humbling famous actor at a show awards, what he has to say that he loves God. Hollywood? That's next. HANNITY: All right. The president talking to me just tweeted out that he talked to, I believe it was Mark Burnett who said there was no outtakes, is that what you are saying? Or no tapes, they don't exist. There are no out tapes. OK. Well, I guess that puts that to rest. By the way, where to find someone in Hollywood sharing their Christian faith. I'll have to show you tomorrow though, because otherwise I'm going to do what Tucker does and that steal my time. In this case I'd be stealing Ingraham's time. But let not -- it's about the actor Chris Pratt. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues with Ingraham. I didn't -- I hit the post. Load-Date: August 14, 2018 End of Document Mainstream Media's Hyped News on White Supremacist Rally Despite a Low Turnout; Media Working Hard to Cast Trump as a Racist; Antifa Coddled by Media for their Anti-Trump Message; Balanced Coverage Supposedly of Media on the Rally; Trump and Police Threatened by Far Left Protesters; Former White House Aide, Omarosa Manigault-Newman, Interviewed Ahead of Book Release; Peter Strzok Fired by FBI; New Polls Shows Democrats Increasingly Favor Socialism Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST August 13, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7867 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Juan Williams, Tammy Bruce Guests: Victor Davis Hanson, Dan Bongino, Mark Fuhrman, Sean Spicer, Chris Hahn, Andrew McCarthy, Bobby Chacon, Mark Penn, David Burstein Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS SHOW HOST: In this case, I would be stealing Ingraham's time. It's about actor Chris Pratt. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Ingraham -- I didn't -- I hit the post. Tell Tucker how to hit the post. It's a radio thing. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hann-IT (ph). I'm calling you Hann-IT (ph) from now on. HANNITY: Hann-IT (ph) because I call you Ingraham (ph). INGRAHAM: Right or CM (ph). HANNITY: It doesn't work. It's not funny when you try to do it back. You got to think of something new, creative and original. INGRAHAM: Wait a second, you are talking to me about the need to come up with new jokes? Are you kidding me? You've been making that joke since 1997. HANNITY: You are out of your mind. INGRAHAM: 1997. If you've been making that joke, OK? So I don't think you have any -- HANNITY: I don't think -- are you going to get in trouble every week on the air? Do you think I get in trouble every week? Oh, by the way, look at my tie. Could it be any more crooked than it is now? INGRAHAM: Yes, exactly. Well, only a man that's really filled with virility and testosterone can pull that one off, Hannity, but you got it. You got it. HANNITY: Look, I had straightened it out on air while I'm talking. INGRAHAM: That salmon color is looking really good. This is fascinating. As fascinating as this is, I got to get to my show. HANNITY: All right, have a great show. We have a little talk to come soon this week. I'll tell you about it later. INGRAHAM: OK, fantastic. All right Hannity, thanks so much. Great show. Good evening, I'm Laura Ingraham, this is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. We have a lot to cover tonight, a lot of ground to cover, and we will get through it together because disgruntled former employees are throwing in with the anti-Trump lynch mob. But how effective are their media tantrums? The updates on axed FBI agent Peter Strzok and ousted White House aide Omarosa are coming up. Plus, Antifa went nuts yesterday, fantasizing about, well, just murdering the president. We will tell you about the left's stunning silence on the issue in just a moment. And a new poll about the Democrats views on socialism. It should disturb the party and frankly all Americans. But first, who is really dividing America? That's the focus of tonight's angle. Last week the media hyped yesterday's Unite the Right to march, a white supremacist gathering in Washington. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A large gathering of white supremacists in the nation's capital who will march for the same apparent (ph) reason they marched a year ago. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On Sunday, white nationalist and bigots like the ones you're seeing on your screen from a year ago are expected to once again take to the streets, this time in front of the White House. BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: As the White House pushes back on her allegations that the president is a racist, thousands of white nationals are preparing to demonstrate just outside the White House this weekend. (END VIDEO CLIPS) INGRAHAM: Did he say thousands? Well, despite all that, the supremacists managed to turn out a whopping 20 protesters. They were far outnumbered by the members of the press, whose news organizations undoubtedly spent gobs of dough giving them free airtime to the pathetic, largely irrelevant band of racially obsessed malcontents. So have the media ever given this much pregame publicity to a march that actually turns out, I don't know, hundreds of thousands of protesters? Most of them young? They often show up in bitter cold or freezing rain? You know, like the annual March for Life? I don't think so. But that annual event is positive and life-affirming and respectful and attended, as I said, by mostly high school, college kids and it does not advance the left's agenda. But the weekend's white supremacists circus had possibilities. The president rightly tweeted before the mch (inaudible) supremacist march in Washington the following. He said, "The riots in Charlottesville a year ago resulted in senseless death and division. We must come together as a nation." He wrote that he "condemned all types of racism and acts of violence and he said peace to all Americans." Well, since Trump rode down that shiny escalator to announce his candidacy, journalists have worked overtime to paint him as an avowed racist. Well, every view he has for instance on law enforcement, standing for the national anthem, the travel ban and of course on immigration, they all allege it's racially motivated. It can't possibly be that the president advances policies and ideas because he believes it's going to be good for Americans, good for safety, good for the American worker. No. Well, you add the tragic events of Charlottesville a year ago and you had the media's backdrop going into this weekend's Unite the Right freak show. Those sad 20 figures were swamped by over a thousand counter protesters, and some did carry signs that simply read kindness or love and that was heartening. But the real fireworks happened when these folks showed up. (VIDEO PLAYING) INGRAHAM: It was basically a family affair. Well, Black Lives Matter, you know, and the domestic terrorists posing as protesters, aka Antifa, were present and revealing the ugly underbelly of what could have been a powerful statement against true hate. Instead, here's how CNN though classified all the non-white supremacists as "anti-hate groups." I don't know about you, but just like we all know what the vile hatred of racists sound like, we should all know what it sounds like when directed at a racially diverse police force who are standing there either in the heat or in the rain just trying to do their job on Sunday. (VIDEO PLAYING) INGRAHAM: They wanted to get it where the 20 racial obsessed malcontents were. Well apparently, protesters like to tear each other limb from limb and want the police to get out of the way. And if you happen to be driving a vehicle in the vicinity yesterday, this is Black Lives Matters way of spreading love and peace. (VIDEO PLAYING) INGRAHAM: Now, if you guys have nothing to hide and they are on the side of right, anyone ask them why they are wearing masks to conceal their identity from law enforcement? Do you know why? Because they destroy property, they harass officers, throw projectiles at them and they just attack the innocent. Now, this next video, this couple's crime, well, wearing Trump t-shirts. (VIDEO PLAYING) INGRAHAM: Still, the media coddle Antifa and these leftist protesters largely because their anti-Trump message aligns with the one prevailing in a lot of American newsrooms. But if they are going to cover for them rather than cover them, will the media now align themselves with this message too? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: No borders! No wall! No USA at all! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: At least they are rhyming. Not that you will see or hear many of those images on other media, of course not. Even when these lunatics by the way turn on journalists, attacking reporters in the street, cutting their cords to their cameras as they did this weekend, the media just -- they want to look the other way. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't be shoving on people. What's wrong with you? Yes. And get that out of my face. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (BLEEP). UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I got it. (Inaudible) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Clever. Well, this was posted by an NBC reporter on his twitter account. It shows his camera crew assaulted by these nut jobs. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't worry about this now. Don't worry about me, don't worry about him. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Yet later when NBC went to coverage of the event with the same reporter, they omitted the fact that their own crew had been assaulted and they showed no video of the incident. How curious. Imagine if some conservative group or (inaudible) had done that to a reporter, what they would have said? They get upset when the Trump crowd screams Acosta go home. Well the media are actively concealing the heinous actions of these fringe groups because they serve their ends. No matter the tactics, no matter the violence or mayhem, these groups are largely given a pass because they are brazenly, vociferously, consistently, vitriolically resisting Trump. How ironic by the way is it that just days ago "The Boston Globe" convinced more than 100 news organizations to blast the president for his verbal and written attacks on the media? Not collusion or anything. Well, they are set to release coordinated editorials and newspapers across the country later this week. Yet when a group or groups actively attack them, the press, physically destroying their equipment, they scream vile things and threaten reporters, the media's silence is deafening. It's Fox News who is supporting the protection of journalists. I suppose the old saying is true, the enemy of my enemy is my friend no matter how awful and violent that friend may be. But if they continue to turn a blind eye to the hateful actions of groups like Antifa while exaggerating the importance of a handful of goofy racists craving attention, the question must be who is really fomenting division in America? The guys whose policies brought black and Hispanic unemployment to record lows? Who fights to keep MS-13 out of already stressed areas? I don't think so. I think America is a lot smarter than the media think they are and I think they see what real hate is and who was trying to solve rather than stoke problems. And that's "The Angle"." Joining me now with reaction is "National Review" columnist and Hoover Institution senior fellow Victor Davis Hanson. Juan Williams, co-host of FNC's "The Five," and Fox News contributor Tammy Bruce. All right guys, quick reaction to the "Angle," Juan? JUAN WILLIAMS, FOX NEWS THE FIVE CO-HOST: Well, I just think the heart and soul of what happened in terms of the coverage, Laura, is that last year in Charlottesville we saw the Unite the Right people come together and express not only hatred, intimidating folks, but kill somebody. And as a result, when you have the Unite the Right now come back for a year later rally in Washington, D.C., and you see protesters turn out in greater numbers, nonetheless the press is going to pay attention to people who are there who organize to spread their hatred. And in fact, as you point out, in some cases it's not appropriate behavior by the anti-fascist crowd and the Black Lives Matter crowd, but that's nowhere as big a story as what's going on in terms of that far fringe, neo- Nazi, KKK group being empowered or emboldened to stand in public in front of the American White House and say that they believe in racial supremacy. I think it's contrary to our values as Americans. INGRAHAM: Well, of course the ACLU, Tammy, has supported Nazis marching and Skokie. Racists have been protected. We have a First Amendment. The most vile speech must be protected under our constitution. TAMMY BRUCE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Right. INGRAHAM: That's why we have a constitution. If it's just positive speech protected, then what does it all mean? BRUCE: You know, we would -- INGRAHA: But nevertheless, it is such a small group of people. They have no influence in American society. They have no relevance and they are by everyone who matters, the overwhelming majority of the American people reviled. BRUCE: Yes. INGRAHAM: In the same time you have a thousand people in Washington, and some were fine. I think some of what happened was fine. But there was a very strong element that expressed deeply disturbing sentiments and physically -- physically, were very aggressive. And I don't think there was much focus on that at all. BRUCE: Well look, there is actually two other stories here. The real story is that there were only 20 white racists at this event. That is remarkable. Obviously somebody unlocked their parent's basement doors to let them out. Any average American could get more people at their backyard barbecue with two hours notice and this is with of course 24/7 coverage by the legacy (ph) media pumping up this weekend event. So that's the story, is that in this nation of the hundreds of millions of people, you know, two dozen people show up who are the white nationalist. The other part of that story is that this Antifa -- people perhaps have forgotten in early of 2016, a report from "Politico" later in that year noted that through interviews and secret documents, that they found that Barack Obama's Department of Homeland Security designated Antifa as enacting domestic terrorism violence. Now, that is significant as the federal government during Obama's term was warning state and local officials that this was very dangerous coordinated behavior that they needed to really deal with seriously. And now we fast forward, Laura, to your angle where you've got the American media and particularly CNN calling it an anti-hate group, a group that Barack Obama's administration determined to be enacting domestic terrorism violence. So there is a disconnection here and I believe that the connection in fact is to force this false narrative of racial division in this country that is not as it is portrayed to be, that we are not as divided as they say, and that meeting this kind of division and hyping it as being major is what they are required to move their narrative. INGRAHAM: Well, Victor Davis Hanson, so many angles to get into this with you, but I felt bad for the police because they are standing there, and we are going to get into this more with Furhman and Bongino, but they are saying this is their job. They are just trying to keep the peace between two groups, one small and one very large and try to keep the peace. You saw the video. We didn't play all the video. We are going to play some in a few moments. VICTOR DAVIS HANSON, COLUMNIST, NATIONAL REVIEW: Yes. I think the larger narrative is though that we have reached a point in American society where the media really does believe that the noble aim of truth or justice or fairness requires almost any means necessary. It's not just my view, I mean, the Shorenstein Center at Harvard said 80 to 90 percent of the press coverage was biased. We know the political donations go one way from another study. When you look at journalists in the past or in the Obama administration, the WikiLeaks Podesta trove, even the recent hiring of Sarah Jeong at "The New York Times" despite her racist paper trail or twitter trail, you get this image and it's not, again, it's not mine, it's not yours. People who are very eloquent on the liberal media side have said, Jorge Ramos, the editor of "New York Times," Jim Rutenberg at "the New York Times." I think even Christiane Amanpour, that Trump poses such a threat that the old traditional journalistic ethos should not require -- INGRAHAM: Yes, by any means necessary, by any means necessary, Victor. HANSON: By any means necessary. INGRAHAM: I mean, this is Jim Rutenberg, Tom Friedman, Jorge Ramos said we are in a different scenario. I know Juan, you've said some of this too. I mean you said -- HANSON: And I just -- INGRAHAM: Yes, you finish up and then we will get to Juan. HANSON: Yes, just one real quick point. What Trump hasn't done -- this is rhetoric -- he's fought back at the media, what he calls fake news but he has not jailed to reporters like JFK did. He did not serve a associate reporters -- the Associate Press reporters like in a way that Obama did with James Rosen at Fox News. He didn't introduce a bill like the Roosevelt allies in Congress did, they call the liable bill to stifle opposition. He didn't do what Hillary Clinton did in 2008 when she tried to stop that Hillary documentary. So, and the final tragedy is what's not being reported. We have the fourth highest member of the DOJ, Bruce Ohr, who was colluding with Fusion GPS after the election to undermine our president. And we've got, my gosh, we just had Dianne Feinstein admit that for 20 years her chauffeur was a spy for the Chinese government and she's one of the ranking members on the Senate Intelligence Committee and a chairman of the judiciary committee. INGRAHAM: Yes, shocking. Beyond shocking. HANSON: Her husband has extensive business in China and it's not news. And so people don't trust the media anymore and that's an empirical fact. INGRAHAM: And they are hurting themselves, Juan. This is my point, be aggressive, hold the president accountable. That's what they should do. I agree. But be fair. If you are going to cover hate, then cover everything about what happened. Don't cherry pick a line or a scene. Cover it, and be fair about it and what is happening with this Antifa group where they are shutting down speech on college campuses. Tammy is aware of it, so is victor, you know, he's at a college on the west coast. It's outrageous that people's free speech rights are being intimidated and they're trying to shut down people with threats of violence or actual violence. And we are treating them like they are just, oh, they are just ambling about having a protest. No, they are not. "No borders, no walls, no USA at all." Really? What the heck does that mean? WILLIAMS: Laura, it seems to me you are off target here in a big way. I mean, to me, the big threat -- and you see this all through the opinion polls in America, people worried that Trump is emboldening racist behavior, words and action in our country. We had a year ago Charlottesville and we saw the kind of tiki torch madness that was not only anti-black and Latino, but we saw them intimidating people in synagogues. You see what's going on in terms of the Trump rallies, the hatred towards the media, the press being called the enemy of the American people and instead you are saying, oh, but look at all these protests, look at some of these wacky people who are attracted to protest in America to any protest. Well that's not the story, Laura. INGRAHAM: No, Juan, if you are worried about the media telling Jim Acosta go home or CNN stinks or sucks, I said on this show that I don't like that. I didn't like it when it was done at the rally. WILLIAMS: Well good. I praise you for it. INGRAHAM: I didn't like it, but when journalists are physically attacked, Juan, and they don't report it on their own network, something funny going on. Maybe I'm not the smartest person, but come on. WILLIAMS: No, Laura, again I think you would be the first -- look, I know you pretty well. You would be the first to say, oh, look at these self- centered reporters, all they want to do is report and talk about themselves and the fact that somebody bumped into them or push their camera. INGRAHAM: Yes, it was more than bumped in. You saw the video. WILLIAMS: They don't want to talk about the news of the day -- INGRAHAM: OK, all right guys. WILLIAMS: -- which is that you have racists on the streets of Washington as they did in (inaudible) Charlottesville. INGRAHAM: OK, all right guys. We got to go guys. Hard break. We'll take a break. We will be right back. INGRAHAM: The ridiculous white supremacist rally in D.C. over the weekend, thankfully turned out to be a total dud, but what about those so-called counter protesters? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are asking people what they would do if President Trump were to show up at this march, some of the answers have been pretty stunning. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If it came down to it and it was a group effort, we have to do him like Gaddafi. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Like Gaddafi? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Murder him? Murder him for the people? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And as you saw on THE ANGLE, it's not just the president they are threatening. Antifa members shouted slurs and got physical with the D.C. police. Joining me now for reaction to get an idea of how law enforcement is reacting to all this chaos is former NYPD and Secret Service officer Dan Bongino and former LAPD detective Mark Fuhrman. It's great to see both of you. Mark, you might have heard what Juan just said. And look, we don't want any white supremacist out there, we don't want 20, you don't want 2,000, you don't want 200, but they do have a First Amendment right and they are going to go out there just like the Nazis can march and the KKK can march. It's not pleasant to see but it's the reality. But the point that so many are making is that that's 20 and they are contained and they are irrelevant and they are hateful but then you have a lot of other stuff going on that's not really getting adequately aired, Mark. MARK FUHRMAN, FORMER LAPD DETECTIVE: Well of course it isn't, because it doesn't address their narrative, but when you look at these -- I can't remember a legal protest for years and I mean years, five, six, seven years. The left breaks the law the moment they have a protest and I think this is a failure by everybody to address that this is a First Amendment right. The First Amendment has nothing to do with depriving other people of their rights, violating laws, attacking people, assaulting people and vandalizing property and challenging officers. INGRAHAM: Mark, is it even allowed to go -- I didn't realize you could go like a millimeter away from a police officer's face and shout horrible vile things and basically spittle is going in the police officer's face. Some of them have shield. But I didn't know you could -- I didn't know you could do that. I thought you couldn't do anything like that, but is that -- they just didn't want to push back because they didn't want any violence? FUHRMAN: Well, I don't believe you can do that. Once you make any kind of contact, bodily fluids, any kind of contact, challenge the officer to fight, any of these things, but you have to understand, Laura, this is inciting a riot. Now, I think this is a complete failure of leadership. These poor officers, the rank and file are put up there like some kind of wall, a symbolic wall that they are doing their job and all they have to do is just stand there and take it, don't make contact, don't rock the boat, just stand there, we will do our jobs in these poor officers have to take this abuse. This is not the way it's supposed to go. Once they commit a crime they should actually target that person, they should open up, they should actually move forward, arrest that person and keep moving. INGRAHAM: Dan, I'm sure the thought is, you know, they do that and then it's all hell breaks loose and then you have utter chaos, the left gets what it wants. See the police brutality. I feel like they are damned if they do and they're damned if they don't. I think they did an amazing job over the weekend that there was just little violence frankly if there was. But how do the police feel in this situation? How do the Secret Service feel? You heard those kids threatening the president's life. I mean, they weigh about 120 pounds by the looks of them, but they are threatening the president's life. DAN BONGINO, FORMER NYPD AND SERCRET SERVICE OFFICER: They are and, Laura, listen. I've been there. Let's just be clear, right. Let's just call it what it is. These are disgusting human filth bags. That's what these people are. I know, it's your show. If I want to be a little more measured, I don't. I don't really care. I was a cop, these are friends of mine. These are dads, these are moms, these are people who go to work every day for a meager salary in a job where there's a strong likelihood, Laura, that they could be killed defending your life. They are not perfect. They are sinners like everyone else, but they commit to a higher purpose. And your job and my job, Laura, that doesn't happen. We don't go to work every night with a thought that there's a pretty good likelihood I could be injured or killed tonight. And what do they have to deal with? This disgusting human filth out there spitting in their faces and I'm absolutely --listen, I was just talking before the segment saying I'm unbelievably salty tonight because I'm tired of this the entire day, the media coddling of who these people really are. Anti-hate groups? These are the very essence of hate groups. These are violent, confrontational, aggressive people who spit in the face and scream at and confront police officers doing absolutely nothing wrong, and ironically they are to keep them safe as well. They are the worst among us, these people. INGRAHAM: Yes, that Brian Stetler over at CNN. He's a beaut. He says the banner on CNN, "Anti-hate groups dramatically outnumber white supremacists in D.C." That's his tweet. And then we have this MSNBC commentator defending Antifa, Mark Fuhrman. I want you to watch. (BEGIUN VIDEO CLIP) STEPHANIE RUHLE, MSNBC SHOW HOST: There were some journalists who were attacked by street protesters, those protesters were also going after the police. They didn't want to be on camera. They are believed to be part of Antifa, what's your take on this? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, I didn't see it. I know one thing when I was in Charlottesville. RUHLE: Ok, well there it is. We're seeing it. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There were a lot of different activists who were like, why are you in riot gear? We don't see no riot here. There is a belief, I'm not saying it's always correct, but there is a belief by many activists including Antifa that the police passively support this kind of violence. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, where was the pushback on that? I'm not sure there is. So the police are supporting violence against what , the journalists? Against the protestors. You lose track of the narrative, guys, because it's so nonsensical. As if the police enjoy spending their Sunday nights dealing with this nightmare, whether it was last year or this year. Mark? FUHRMAN: I'm going to tell you, Laura, I'm going to tell you this, and Dan knows this too. The last thing you want to do is be sitting in all that heavy riot gear waiting for a demonstration in the hot sun, waiting for them to actually do what you know they are going to do, they are going to violate the permit, they are going to violate the law, there are going to not disperse when they are told, they are not going to do what they are supposed to, what they already agreed to with the city officials. It happens time and time again. Then you have to stand there. Unfortunately these officers don't get to do what we probably got to do. We had leaders that were actually there, and they understood that once a crime is committed, one thing is thrown, game starts. That person will be pursued, the crowd will be dispersed, teargas will be actually ignited and sent into the crowd, and everybody will be split up. It's their choice. They don't want a peaceful riot -- they don't want a peaceful demonstration, that's the way it is. INGRAHAM: Dan, final thoughts? BONGINO: The worst-case scenario for a cop when I was with the NYPD was getting that mobilization car where you got mobilized to go down to a riot, Laura. Those comments you just heard about them wanting this violence are some of the most disgusting comments I've ever seen in broadcasting. They should be ashamed, and that person should never be allowed on television again. Those are disgraceful. INGRAHAM: Guys, we need to do a whole hour just on the law enforcement aspect of all of this. Thank you so much for your input on this. Next, Sean Spicer versus the Omarosa saga. Don't miss it, coming up. INGRAHAM: Talk about unhinged, fired Trump aide Omarosa Manigault Newman is making all sorts of outrageous, incendiary claims about the president, of course promoting her new book. She even released a secret recording or two of her conversation with the president just after she was fired. She better have a good lawyer. The president fired back at wacky Omarosa this morning, calling her vicious but not that smart. So vicious is OK if you are smart. Joining me now for reaction are Chris Hahn, radio host, former aide to Senator Chuck Schumer, and with me here in the studio, former White House press secretary Sean Spicer, author of the bestseller "The Briefing." Sean, good to see you. SEAN SPICER: Good to see you. INGRAHAM: Chris, good to see you. Let's start with you because you reminded me the last time you were on, or one of the first times. SPICER: Right after the show launched. INGRAHAM: I asked you what does Omarosa do, what's her job? SPICER: And I said I don't know. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: And that got a lot of publicity. You just told me that, by the way. Speaking of the controversy, I should say at first, Mark Burnett apparently called the president after the president was tweeting tonight "to say that there are no tapes of "The Apprentice" where I used such a terrible and disgusting word as attributed by wacky and deranged Omaroso." So she has gone from wacky Omarosa to wacky and deranged Omarosa. "I don't have that word in my vocabulary and never have. She made it up. Look at her many recent quotes saying such a wonderful and powerful things about me, a true champion of civil rights, until she got fired. Omarosa had zero credibility with the media. They didn't want interviews when she worked in the White House. Now that she says that about me they will talk to her. Fake news." Spicer? SPICER: Agreed. (LAUGHTER) SPICER: She continues to make stuff up. She made some serious accusations about me and some other folks that have left the White House the other day that are completely false and inflammatory. I think part of this is the president is right, there is two faults. One is what she has done, the disloyalty and the spreading of false information. She taped John Kelly in the Situation Room. INGRAHAM: How was that allowed? I've been in the Situation Room and you are supposed to leave all phones and anything in that little area there. SPICER: Yes. And the idea -- my guess is that they probably took her there because they thought there's no way anybody would violate security protocols like this, and then clearly she did. But I think there's two issues. There is that, and the second issue is the president brought up that these media outlets that know she is spreading falsehood to decry fake news are suddenly treating her like a celebrity and someone because she is attacking the president. INGRAHAM: And Chris, how is this any different from Michael Wolff? Again, it's going back to my point in the "Angle," the useful protesters, useful idiots, useful never-Trumpers, useful Omarosa, useful Michael Wolff. Most of them have been discredited for one reason or another, but they are useful for the by any means necessary remove Trump approach to things. That's where I see things coming down. CHRIS HAHN, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: They are also emblematic of the president brought them into the White House, including Michael Wolff who he gave a lot of access to. INGRAHAM: I agree with that. Totally agree with that. HAHN: He brought Omarosa to the White House. He gave her a job. Their security protocols were so lax she could record things in the White House, including in the Situation Room. She is saying things about her colleagues. Sean, you are saying you don't have a nondisclosure agreement, but do you have any agreement with the president? Because you were treated pretty poorly and you've been very nice to him I think since you've left the White House. So there is a lot of dysfunction in the White House, and Omarosa is just pointing that out. And we are going to hear more and more tapes I think in the weeks -- days and weeks to come. INGRAHAM: Is there any dysfunction in Omarosa herself? There's dysfunction in the White House, OK, but the media -- let's say that's true. Let's take that as a given, there's dysfunction. There was lots of dysfunction in most White Houses frankly, whether you heard about it or not. In this case you can at least say we know a person without credibility sounds like and acts like. HAHN: Laura, the only reason we know Omarosa's name is because of Donald Trump. So everything Omarosa is and everything she will be is because of Donald Trump. He created Omarosa. He created a monster. INGRAHAM: I agree with you on that, but Spicer you've got to get in on this. Why was she brought into the White House? Why? SPICER: Here's the deal. You're right, she had been loyal and a cheerleader. INGRAHAM: What was her experience in executive branch? SPICER: What I am saying -- INGRAHAM: Why are you defending her. SPICER: I'm not. No, no, what I'm saying -- INGRAHAM: I know people who are loyalist for Trump who literally volunteered for top positions -- I'm not trying to get on you, it's not your decision -- but literally interviewed for top positions and they wouldn't even get a hearing by the White House personnel office. Still won't get a hearing. Drive me nuts. SPICER: And I don't disagree with that, however, I will say this. She has been a loyal person to the president. During the campaign she had been a huge cheerleader of his candidacy, of his values, of the results he was going to get. I understand the president turns to somebody who had been loyal I would love to have you -- INGRAHAM: She worked for Obama. SPICER: I'm not here to defend her, but I'm saying that the president rewarded her loyalty. INGRAHAM: What was her experience? SPICER: I will agree with Chris on this. HAHN: Where is the vetting, Sean? SPICER: Hold on, Chris, let me agree with you for a second. I agree she didn't have the experience necessary to come in. The bottom line is that this is the kind of payback -- she is who she is because of Donald Trump, and the only thing that he's gotten in return is disloyalty from her. INGRAHAM: That's a given. I agree with you on all of that. I'm just saying don't bring in people to the White House who have literally zero experience for that position, whatever her position was, I guess she had some position. She said this on "Hardball" tonight. We're almost out of time, we got to watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNBC HOST: Omarosa, do you have any other recordings? You wouldn't share them here, do you have some? OMAROSA MANIGAULT NEWMAN, FORMER WHITE HOUSE AIDE: I have plenty. MATTHEWS: Anything Mueller would like to see, Robert Mueller? NEWMAN: If his office calls again and they want I will share. MATTHEW: Would you be a good witness in this investigation by Mueller? NEWMAN: Anything they want I will certainly cooperate. MATTHEWS: Do you think Trump should be impeached? NEWMAN: At this point yes. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: She is a legal expert as well. SPICER: I just think the disloyalty and the breach of security are beyond the pale. INGRAHAM: Legal problems? SPICER: I hope so. HAHN: There has to be a reason so many people are taping conversations with the president and the people around him, Sean. You have to admit to that. There is some suspicion about him -- SPICER: Chris, no, one person does not make so many. SPICER: -- about how he relates to things. This is not the only tape, this is not the only breach of security. Stuttering John got through to Air Force One a couple of weeks ago. There are real issues with the way this White House is run. INGRAHAM: Whoa, whoa, what was the name of the wacky couple that got into the White House, and actually walked into the White House during the party from Middleburg, Virginia? Don't give me this garbage, Chris, that the White House is all locked down during Obama. They waltzed in, could have done God knows what to Obama and Michelle. Come on. I love having you want, but that we are going to call you on. HAHN: Hey, but look, it is happening, though, right. INGRAHAM: But Chris and I agreed on something tonight, wow. All right, guys, great segment, thank you so much. And the anti-Trump texting FBI agent Peter Strzok finally got the pink slip, and that may be some very bad news for Hillary Clinton? Wow, we will tell you why. INGRAHAM: You're fired, that's the message the FBI gave Peter Strzok on Friday. The anti-Trump texting agent was at the center of both the Hillary Clinton and Russia investigations. Mr. Strzok has now joined Twitter where he posted a statement from his lawyer claiming his firing was due to, quote, "political pressure." He also provided a link to a GoFundMe page where he is already raised, wait, it's gone up from $80,000, it's already raised $139,704 of $150,000 goal. Do you think you might get that? That was an 11 hours. Joining us now for reaction, former federal prosecutor, FOX News contributor Andy McCarthy, and retired FBI special agent Bobby Chacon, who knows the man at the FBI who had Strzok fired. Great to see both of you. Let's start with you, Bobby. Director, FBI director, deputy director David Bowdich is being hit and trashed by people saying he must be doing this under political pressure from Trump. But let's look at his resume for a moment. Let's put it up on the screen. He began his career as a police officer. He's a former FBI SWAT team member and sniper, already love him. Oversaw nonwhite-collar crime investigations at FBI's San Diego office. Ran the L.A. field office, led the FBI response to San Bernardino, and of course now he's the deputy director of the FBI. And tell us a little bit more. BOBBY, CHACON, FBI SPECIAL AGENT (RET): In my 27 years in the FBI, he was probably one of the best bosses I ever had. I worked for Jim Kallstrom in New York during those years, and Dave Bowdich ranks right up there with that. You won't find somebody with more integrity than Dave, and I always thought -- I worked directly for him here in L.A. and he spoke at my retirement. And I always thought if there was somebody that could steer the bureau through this morass that we are in right now, it's Dave. He did the right thing here. OPR recommended a suspension. Dave saw that we need to have a change. For better or worse, we need to get rid of these people that were in those positions and did these things. And I think he did this for the betterment of the FBI. I think pure and simple Strzok needed to be punished for his actions, but I think overall he did this because overall is an institution the institution has to be bigger than any of us individuals, and I think Bowdich saw that and he made the decision that this is the best course of action for the FBI going forward forward. INGRAHAM: Candace Will, Andy, was the person in charge of the Professional Responsibility Office at DOJ. She initially decided that Strzok should only get a 60-day suspension, which was some punishment. In her resume as the following, deputy chief of the DOJ general litigation criminal division under Mueller, assistant counsel in the DOJ Office of Professional Responsibility, assistant director of Office of Professional Responsibility, again, appointed by Mueller. That's neither here nor there, but she was appointed twice by Mueller with very senior positions within the FBI. And so, again, some people are saying because of the way the investigation has gone she was not going to throw the book at Peter Strzok. However, you made a point earlier about the I.G., the inspector general didn't find the behavior that some of us probably thought he should have found on the part of Peter Strzok. ANDREW MCCARTHY, EDITOR, NATIONAL REVIEW: Laura, the thing is I don't agree with the inspector general's assessment. What the inspector general found was that while the texts were very troubling, that no particular decision could he conclude was driven by bias. Now, I didn't agree with that, but it doesn't matter what I think. That's what he says, and the FBI more importantly embraced that decision. So my only point here is I agree with Bobby about the need to turn the page at the FBI, but I do think that this kind of stuff doesn't get decided on people's resumes. It gets decided on here is the grounds on which we fired him and here's the evidence backing it up. Remember when Andy McCabe got fired, they explicitly found three charges of lack of candor. They backed it up with a lot of evidence, and it turned out that the decision was consistent all the way through. Here I'm not saying that this is indefensible because I don't think there is. I think we could find 10 good reasons to fire him. INGRAHAM: The August 8th, 2016, text message to Lisa Page where he said we are not going to let that happen. She gets worried that Trump might be -- we are not going to let that happen. What does that mean? I know the inspector general didn't -- he didn't say you can't show a decision he made, but I don't see how that is in any way when we are not going to let that happen. It wasn't saying I don't like Trump, that's one thing. We are not going to let that happen is a collective description of something the two of them could possibly do together in their positions. That's the only way you can read that. MCCARTHY: And I think his testimony on that in the Congressional hearing was not credible. My only point is you have to articulate the reason why you are firing him, and if you don't, what they're going to say is it's due to political pressure. INGRAHAM: They are arguing that Trump talked to Sessions, Sessions talked to Bowdich, this is what his lawyer is arguing. We will see how it all plays out. Guys, thanks so much tonight. And the Democrats love affair with socialism growing. We are going to reveal the results of a shocking new poll that should concern Democrats everywhere, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don't think capitalist is bad people? SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN, (D) MASSACHUSETTS: I am a capitalist. Come on. I believe in markets. What I don't believe in is theft. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Republicans say that one of the things statistics show is that democratic socialism is ascendant in your party. Are they right about that? REP. NANCY PELOSI, (D) HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: No, they're not. It's ascendant in that district, perhaps. I don't accept any characterization of our party presented by the Republicans. So let me to reject that right now. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, a new poll from Gallup shows that socialists are no longer just a fringe group in the party, contrary to what you heard from Nancy just there. Currently 57 percent of Democrats have a positive view of socialism, compared to just 47 percent who hold a positive view of capitalism. Three cheers for public education. Just two years ago 56 percent of Democrats looked at capitalism favorably. Us Republicans, 71 percent like capitalism compared to 16 percent who hold a positive view of socialism. Who are those 16 percent? Joining us now for reaction, Mark Penn, former top advisor to Bill and Hillary Clinton, and David Burstein who is the CEO and founder of Run for America. Mark, this is kind of wild. This is a little bit different from Bill Clinton's third way and understanding the old rustbelt and Arkansas and middle America. Now we are positive toward socialism, what's going on? MARK PENN, DEMOCRATIC POLLSTER: I ran a poll in January that I asked people to choose between capitalism and socialism. It was 85-15. But I'm worried about millennials. Frankly it was 20, 25 percent of millennials favored socialism over capitalism the, and you see this in this poll because I think Bernie Sanders has sort of presented socialism as something benign and nice. INGRAHAM: No one ever ends up getting killed. PENN: Killed or poor or economically disenfranchised. And so it's very dangerous to the extent that people who really grow up with the 2009 crisis, you look at people who are 21 now, they only know the 2009 crisis. Capitalism is making a big comeback now. This is actually a bad time to be a socialist because capitalism is reducing poverty and creating more jobs in the African-American and Latino communities. INGRAHAM: David, you actually think embracing socialism is not a bad thing and that in fact it can work fairly well for the Democrats. Explain. DAVID BURSTEIN, FOUNDER, RUN FOR AMERICA: I think we should be clear about what we are talking about here when we talk about socialism. I think we are not necessarily talking about the textbook definition of socialism. We are talking about what people see in the message of Bernie Sanders and the message of someone like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, which is basically saying we should have a more fair system. And this is a generation of people who have grown up seeing the results of a system that has not been in their favor. This is a generation that has seen institutional failures of capitalism over and over again. And so it shouldn't be surprising that when our leaders have failed on such a broad- based level that people are looking to see maybe there could be something different here. And to be clear, this is not people saying we want to turn the United States into a socialist country. They are changing their view and saying maybe there is something to this idea of looking differently at how we do things. That's very different from saying we should have a socialist country. INGRAHAM: I get that. I actually understand that because if you grew up and all you saw was 2009 and the floor fell out and everyone lost all this money, I get that that is really unsettling. However, what Trump is doing now, it's really working for a lot of people. People get out of Manhattan and get out of where the rent is like $2,500 for a studio apartment and actually talk to real people in real America, confidence, optimism, opportunities, entrepreneurship is up, up, up, up, up. But you wouldn't know that by listening to Antifa saying no borders, no walls, no USA at all. That's kind of where they are. But Mark, I have to say when you look at the Real Clear Politics average today, it just a snapshot, just a day, but it's 3.9 percent generic ballot lead now for the Democrats. Again, could go up, could go down, but July 12th it was eight percent lead. Earlier this year it was a 14 percent lead. I don't think the socialism talks helps Democrats anywhere may be but Brooklyn or Queens. PENN: Not at all. Really the Sanders candidates all went down in the primary. I don't think the rank-and-file Democratic voters have turned socialist. And remember, the voters who the Democrats really need, the people in the heartland from Indiana to Pennsylvania, they turned to Trump for capitalism, not for socialism. And we need to win those voters back with an economic growth strategy, not a socialist strategy. INGRAHAM: Jason, is your economic situation better? We have about 15 seconds. Is it better or worse, David, excuse me, than five years ago? BURSTEIN: I think the reality is that for a lot of people in this country it is not better, it has not gotten better for people as they look at their future over the long-term. People in this generation are hurting a tremendous amount from debt, and they haven't been helped by this president's policies. INGRAHAM: It's less than two years so give it a little chance. See if it doesn't work out a little bit better than perhaps the last five years before that. Thank you so much David and Mark. We will be right back. INGRAHAM: Wasn't that a fun show? We could have really done two hours tonight. Thank you for all of you for watching tonight, as always, our wonderful viewers. And that's all the time we have for the night, though. Ed Henry is in for Shannon in New York tonight. Mr. Henry and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team take things from here. Ed, we miss you in D.C. Load-Date: August 14, 2018 End of Document Steele's Russia Connections; Report: Former Aide To Senator Dianne Feinstein Was Recruited As Chinese Spy; As Midterm Election Approaches, The Mueller Team Is Much Eager To Crush President Trump Through A Perjury Trap, But The President's Legal Team Says Mueller Has No Right To Question The President, Cannot Indict A Sitting President, And There's No Proof Of Any Crime Against Him; The Left-Wing Media Is Doing Everything They Can, Be In Print Or Cable News, To Try To Bring Down President Trump Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 9, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7460 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Gregg Jarrett, Ed Henry, Mark Levin, Sebastian Gorka Guests: John Solomon, Joe DiGenova, Sean Spicer Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Is that what you call it? Blasting off. Well, we do have big breaking news. Mark, thank you. We have incredible guests. Joe diGenova, the great one, Mark Levin. We have breaking news this hour. It is so much worse then we knew or thought. The story of corrupt DOJ official, ex-foreign spies working together, literally to stop Donald Trump from becoming president, and then after his election to destroy him. We have more major breaking news surrounding Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele and now Steele's boss, Fusion GPS founder Glen Simpson. Now, "The Hill's" John Solomon has now uncovered additional disturbing communications and for the first time, we have them, handwritten notes from Bruce Ohr, detailing how he coordinated with Clinton's team of op researchers, all in the lead up to the election. We need to get to the bottom of it. We have new details surrounding just how deep state of Christopher Steele's Russian ties are. By the way, Robert Mueller, please tune in. We have found more actual real Russian collusion that you might want to investigate, if you care about truth and equal justice under the law. Also tonight, we will bring you the unusual case of what looks like a Chinese spy and Senator Dianne Feinstein, it fits perfectly and highlights our two tiered system of justice. This went on for over 20 years, coming up. And don't expect, by the way, to hear this over at conspiracy TV MSNBC where their top left of Mao, their words, conspiracy theorist, Rachel Maddow, is pushing, and busy pushing, more bizarre anti-Trump conspiracy theories and lies. This is 24/7. Tom Brokaw, pay attention, this is your NBC News. And, last night's show, well, she broke another bombshell report because there is a secret recording from the House Intel Committee Chairman Devin Nunes where he warned about the consequences if Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats take back the House in November. The horror! He told the truth. And meanwhile, over at fake news CNN, yes, so-called reporter, B.S. artist, Jim Acosta, is basking in the anti- Trump limelight and appeared on Stephen Colbert's show last night. We'll show you the worst of the worst. Buckle up, time for an important breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Tonight, once again, John Solomon has a major breaking report. This time, he's exposing how Fusion GPS literally coordinated with Obama's Justice Department all in the lead-up to the 2016 election. Now, remember, Fusion GPS was the consulting firm. It was hired by the DNC, and the Clinton campaign. They are the ones that dug up the dirt on then candidate Trump that was full of Russian lies. And according to now newly unearthed, handwritten notes that we now have, senior Justice Department official Bruce Ohr, he knew about Glen Simpson's effort to leak the dirty dossier to the press prior to the election. He wrote, quote: it was Glen's Hail Mary attempt. Hail Mary attempt, of course, to defeat Trump with Hillary's bought and paid for Russian lies. And it gets worse. Now, Bruce Ohr also wrote that Glen Simpson gave him a memory stick during a discrete meeting at a coffee shop. By the way, where is that a stick? Is that acid washed? Did they beat it up with a hammer? Now, to put this simply, this new, clear evidence is showing Hillary Clinton's op research team was working with the Department of Justice in the Obama years to malign an opposition party candidate and Bruce Ohr, Barack Obama's number four at the DOJ, represented team Clinton's efforts to use your government as a weapon against the Trump campaign. And as we speak, the House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte, he is now preparing subpoenas for Bruce Ohr, Nelly Ohr, and Glen Simpson. And, meanwhile, we are also learning new details about Christopher Steele and his shady ties to a Russian oligarch. Byron York uncovered emails from 2016 showing that Christopher Steele was in fact lobbying on behalf of a Russian aluminum tycoon -- oh, guess what, with close ties to Vladimir Putin. Robert Mueller, Jeff Sessions, where are you people? And Steele even pressed Bruce Ohr to help rectify those Russian oligarchs U.S. visa status after he was already banned from the United States. And Steele even pressed Bruce Ohr to help rectify the oligarch's status and after he was banned, guess what? He got to come back. So, here what we have is an ex-foreign spy working for a Putin-linked oligarch, gets him into the United States after being banned, by using his connection, the number four guy at the DOJ, during an election, where Steele, being paid by Hillary and the DNC, they literally are using Russian lies and propaganda, they create the oppo research against the president, then you have Fusion GPS, then you have Christopher Steele, disseminating that information to influence the American people what are outright lies because this is their Hail Mary pass. Robert Mueller, you have no interest in investigating this? You don't think that's part of your mandate? But Paul Manafort's 2005 taxes that have nothing to do with the campaign, Russian-Trump, or the election? That's in your mandate? This is why we on this show, this is why the president rightly is calling this a witch hunt. This is a politically motivated prosecution of a man they never wanted to be president. They were going to stop him. And after every dirty trick, that they used to defeat Donald Trump, and it failed, well, then, they tried to destroy the president. Why? Because you voted for him. I could go on and on but I think Rudy Giuliani said it best last night right here on this program. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUDY GIULIANI, ATTORNEY FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP: The reality is, the real story here is not that this case isn't going to fizzle, it's going to blow up on them. The real question is, what we talked about before, there's a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet. A lot more to the obstruction of justice, to the collusion, to the fake dossier, trying to bring Steele back in after he was completely discredited. HANNITY: And then feed it to Mueller. GIULIANI: Yes. And Mueller is going to have a lot to answer for. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Yes, he does. Without a doubt, this witch hunt is the pinnacle of a two tiered system of justice alive and well in this country, the United States of America. Hillary Clinton commits multiple, obvious, serious felonies. We've said it a million times, mishandling top secret intel on a private server, deleting it, acid washing it, busting up devices with hard -- with hammers, obstructing justice. She got a get out of jail free card from her friends who wrote an exoneration before investigation, Comey, Strzok, and others. And then you have shifty Schiff. Remember, we played it. He colluded on tape, conspired on tape with a Russian to get dirt on Donald Trump. Robert Mueller, where are you? Meanwhile, President Trump, all of his allies, they are slammed with the full force weight of the FBI and the DOJ based on what is Clinton bought and paid for Russian lies put together by a spy who is friends with a Russian oligarch and working on his behalf to get him into the country after he's been kicked out. Paul Manafort, old, big case, trial of the century. Facing life in prison over a 2005 tax case on bank and tax charges that had nothing to do with Trump, Russia, or the campaign. Lieutenant General Flynn, coerced into a plea deal after exculpatory evidence was withheld, and then he has to sell his house because he can't afford to pay for his defense. And don't forget about even Carter Page, 2016, the FBI thought he was a Russian spy. And what did they do? They used Steele, friend of the Russian oligarch, his dirty dossier, that even he doesn't stand by. He doesn't even think it's true -- misleading four separate FISA judges to spy on a Trump campaign associates. This is all happening. You can't make this up in a spy novel. But was President Trump, was he ever notified by our federal government that a possible spy might have infiltrated his campaign so he could help our government, help the FBI? Not a chance. Meanwhile, very different story plays out if you are a Democrat, by the name of Senator Dianne Feinstein. Look at the shocking revelations, 2013, Feinstein, notified by the FBI. One of her top aide is investigated as a Chinese spy. In other words, the FBI sought to protect Feinstein, not Trump. Perhaps because the highest levels of the FBI are wrought with anti-Trump corrupt bias and are trying to take down the candidate, stop him with an insurance policy, if, God forbid, he does win. Not Senator Feinstein. Look, night after night on this program, we are breaking important news, investigative reporting. I have said many times, we are peeling back the layers of corruption, the biggest abuse of power in our country's history, at the highest levels of our government. Now that's not the case and the rest of the news media. Let's take, for example, conspiracy TV MSNBC. You are going to love this tape. Now, this is not the case. They are more interested in pushing salacious rumors, lies, accusations. Tom Brokaw, you spent your entire career. This is your NBC News. And nowhere is this more true than their chief conspiracy theorist Rachel Maddow. Last night, after her old tricks, literally making something out of nothing, whipping these left-wing viewers into a frenzy over a secret recording of the House Intel Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, where he warned a room full of donors that if Republicans lose, all deep state investigations will be halted and Democrats will try to impeach Trump. We've been saying this literally every night on this program, they also, by the way, want open borders, to eliminate ICE, keep Obamacare, and they want the crumbs back. Now, of course, making a big deal out of nothing, well, that's kind of their M.O. over there at fake news MSNBC. We can't forget about their big scoop. Remember, they got one page of Donald Trump's 2005 tax return for 45 minutes, we got it, here it is -- here, and what did we discover? He paid millions and millions and millions in taxes. And then, of course, there is Rachel's favorite conspiracy, Trump is an agent of Russia. I'm not making this up. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RACHEL MADDOW, MSNBC HOST: If the president did that today, because he hasn't some reason to serve that other country, rather than our own, then - - then, a lot that has previously been inexplicable is now explicable. Is our president subordinate to a foreign power? Does our president answer to a foreign government and a foreign leader? The worse case scenario is that the president is a foreign agent suddenly feels very possible (ph). What would change the world is if, you know, Russia was interfering in the election and they weren't doing it on their own, and he was in on it. I mean, this guy is supposedly somebody who works at the Russian central bank. Why did the FSB give him a medal for his work? A medal of appreciation right after Donald Trump clinched the Republican nominee for president? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He's a foreign agent. That is why he's being so tough on Putin, like Obama wasn't, and Clinton wasn't. Now if you think her fake, her overhyped, so-called scoop flat out conspiracy theories, and they are -- well, think again. Take a look at this little wacky trip down conspiracy lane. I think you will like it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MADDOW: Of course, Trump picked as it as a secretary of state not Mitt Romney but out of nowhere, the Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson, to whom Vladimir Putin had personally awarded the Russian order of friendship. Tillerson is someone who Trump had never met before the presidential election, never had any dealings with. Where did he come up with that as a choice for secretary of state? The perception that the president may have ordered these strikes in part because of scandal will affect the impact on the effectiveness of these military strikes. Unavoidably, they pulled their troops out starting Friday, September 29th. That would be the Friday after the Trump administration made this baffling decision to insult and harm our closest military ally in that region, those troops from Chad got pulled out the 29th. Well, right after that, that's when four U.S. army soldiers got attacked by a large contingent of ISIS fighters in Niger. Venezuelans are enraged a new by this brand-new FEC filing from the White House. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: OK. If you think fake news couldn't get any worse, any more dramatic, any more self-involved, you are forgetting about CNN's most outspoken Trump hater, that's right, B.S. Jim Acosta. Now, he is supposed to be an unbiased White House correspondent, but as we've shown you many times, all too often, he uses his hatred, his contempt, his left-wing agenda for President Trump because he is launching himself into a national spotlight. He's becoming a star. Last night is no exception. He tweeted out this picture of himself. Look deeply into his own eyes just before appearing on the "Late Show" with fellow Trump hater Stephen Colbert. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM ACOSTA, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: These folks are focused on the coverage of the president's behavior more so than they are the president's behavior. And to me, you know, I think that the president's behavior is more newsworthy than our coverage. But a lot of these folks out there, they are getting their sense of what we do twisted and warped by some people out there who just want to do the president's bidding. STEPHEN COLBERT, COMEDIAN: Do you worry that the president points out y'all so much and there is a natural need to respond as a human being that you end up being the story when that's not really the goal of your journalism? ACOSTA: Right. And we're not supposed to be the story. You know, that's not why I'm out there. You know, I get accused of that from time to time at my attitude is, listen, I am allowed to care about this country just as much as anybody else. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: When you're corrupt, when you lie, when you're nothing but an extension of the Democratic Party, yes, you're going to get called out. By the way, that picture was so bizarre. And Acosta's constant flirtation with fame over actual journalism is so obvious that even some of his peers in a mainstream media, they are beginning to notice. On Tuesday, "The Atlantic" referred to Acosta's conduct as a dangerous brand of performance journalism. Meanwhile, frequent guest on fake news CNN, conspiracy TV MSNBC, filmmaker Michael Moore coming out with a new documentary. He refers to Trump as the last president of United States. There is going to be a coup. It's going to be bad. Well, it's a perfect example of pre-election left-wing lunacy. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) did this happen? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The American dream -- is dead. Stop resisting. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president's powers here are beyond question. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ladies and gentlemen, the last president of the United States. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Scary music, the worst picture you can find, all the special effects. The president's success is really starting to throw these people over the ledge. So, by the way, Michael Moore, if you are watching, cover your eyes, you are not going to like what I am about to show. Pew Research Center, Trump voters overwhelmingly approve of the choice for president. Oh, we've got a lot of breaking news. Joining us now, two weeks in a row now, the number one "New York Times" best seller, "The Russian Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump," FOX News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett. From "The Hill," John Solomon. investigative reporter, Fox News contributor, Sara Carter. John, let's start with these developments tonight. I have copies but I'm not allowed to show them, am I? JOHN SOLOMON, THE HILL: Well, listen, I have some of these handwritten notes, and unlike "BuzzFeed" and other organizations that led to unredacted information out without checking it, I don't think is responsible to put the handwritten out until we check the information out. I know that's -- HANNITY: And we know the handwritten notes were written by -- to? SOLOMON: Bruce Ohr, Justice Department official Bruce Ohr, that's what Congress has been told. And these notes are from a December 11th meeting. Let me set the table. It is one month after Donald Trump has won the election. It's one month after Christopher Steele, the opposition researcher, British intelligence agent, has been fired by the FBI, the Democrats are still in shock, I assume Lisa Page and Strzok are sorting through their feelings after the election. And all of a sudden, Bruce Ohr goes to a coffee shop in Washington and he meets Glen Simpson. That's Christopher Steele's boss, the owner of Fusion GPS, the Clinton research firm. He gets a memory card, a thumb drive of documents coming to Bruce Ohr. Bruce Ohr is not in the counterintelligence chain. He's not an FBI counterintelligence person. And in fact, his wife worked for the Fusion GPS, so he might have a conflict of interest under the Justice Department rules. HANNITY: Might have or does? SOLOMON: Yes. Well, I mean, that's for the lawyers to decide. But clearly, it's an issue that's been flagged, right? And he gets a series of admissions and he writes down in his nice notes -- I think they are important. Let's go them quickly. One, Simpson acknowledged he encouraged Steele to leak a story just before the election as a Hail Mary attempt, obviously, to throw the election. Now, remember, Glen Simpson testified that he only pursue this information because he thought it was good citizenship, wasn't about politics, it was about being a good citizen. Here you see him telling his friend who takes a note, it's about elections. Here's s another one. He doesn't have any sources in Moscow where this alleged plot is. It's an intelligent agent who is now living in United States. That's a red flag for all the intelligence people that I talk to. Sounds like kompromat, not a real intelligent source. And he goes on. He talks about this incredible theory he has, which is really -- there were three spies in the Trump campaign. First, it was Manafort, he got booted. Then it was Carter Page, he got booted. So, then Michael Cohen must have been the third link because, well, he is married to somebody who knows someone in Russia. And then he puts all this down and, you know, Ohr is taking it and two days later, Ohr takes it and he runs it over to the FBI and he does an interview and tells them what it is. And why is this important? The FBI fired Christopher Steele and said it was not going to take any more information from this political operation research operation, but Bruce Ohr is the guy walking in the door after the firing. It has to concern people at the FISA court, has to concern professional intelligence people like I talked to today who look at these notes and said this is the worst form of intelligence gathering we've ever seen. HANNITY: It's called corruption. Sara, you are working on a couple stories yourself. You want to add to all of this? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I think John laid it out perfectly, when he talks about what happened with Bruce Ohr. The bigger question here, I think after all of this information has been released, is who authorized Bruce Ohr at the Department of Justice to be the back channel for the FBI, Sean. And another question is, who at the FBI was authorizing this? It had to be McCabe, could it have been McCabe? Could it have been someone above McCabe like Comey, to use Bruce Ohr as the back channel for Christopher Steele? They knew he had been fired. He had violated their protocol. He had violated all of the rules. He had been dismissed, but they were still using him. I think these are some of the biggest questions. And John is right because the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, that's something that I have been looking at, they will be very, very -- and they are very, very concerned about what happened, because this affects the ability to trust the bureau, the ability to trust those people and counterintelligence that are giving them the information. This is supposed to be factual. They are supposed to have facts. They attributed everything in that FISC, if you read the application, what's been released, they say, this absolute fact. We know Carter Page is a spy. He is working with the Russians. We know this, we know that -- HANNITY: Why isn't he arrested? CARTER: That's right. Why isn't he arrested? And one more quick point. They left out all the information on Bruce Ohr out of that application. They did not inform the FISC court of what was going on. And that's the biggest problem here. HANNITY: All right. So, Russian lies get -- want to go into all of us. There are so much to unpeeled here. You got the FISA court, lied to them, multiple levels. There is a fraud committed to the court. Then you've got Strzok and Page and, of course, Comey writes the exoneration. But you got them saying, we are going to stop them and they have an insurance policy. Then you got Glenn Simpson here. Now, he wants to throw a Hail Mary with, again, unverified Steele dossier. Steele doesn't even stand -- he doesn't even stand by his own dossier when under oath. But now, we got an oligarchy from Russia kicked out of the country, you've got Ohr, Steele talking about bringing him back in and spreading misinformation, lying to the American people to sway an election, and now lying to a FISA court, getting into the Trump campaign, and using the information after to take down the president after he beats all of this crap. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Historic, rampant corruption by the FBI and Department of Justice. Robert Mueller should do the right thing, end his investigation, and make an announcement that the accusations of Trump-Russia collusion were nothing more than a hoax. Every day, thanks to John, Sara, and others, there are new revelations -- HANNITY: And you. JARRETT: -- that the evidence against Trump was simply invented. It was conjured out of thin air. There was never any real evidence. HANNITY: What about all these Russian connections? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And that Adam Schiff talking to a Russian? JARRETT: The FBI knew that this was fake. They knew that Steele -- HANNITY: Not rank-and-file, very important. JARRETT: No, no. But Comey and his confederates knew that it wasn't real. They didn't care. They knew that Steele was a liar, they fired him for it, yet, they kept using him even after Trump was elected and inaugurated. There was never any plausible evidence. HANNITY: Real quick, because we got to run, guys. We're up on the clock. CARTER: Oh, I was just going to say, Sean, and they used a foreign spy. If you want to see any connections, look at the connections between the Democratic Party, Russia, and a British spy. Those are the connections. HANNITY: All right. I have your articles on hannity.com. You've got to read it in detail. Great reporting, all three of you. Thank you. When we come back, Ed Henry has an explosive report. Joe diGenova, the great one, Mark Levin. We got a busy night here. Stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with more information about a possible Chinese spy working for Democrat, Senator Dianne Feinstein for two decades. FOX News Chief National Correspondent, Ed Henry outside the White House. Sir, amazing the different treatment we have here. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's the collusion story the media hasn't spent a lot of time on, maybe because it's not about President Trump and Russia. Instead, it's about China allegedly infiltrating the office of a powerful Democrat in Senator Dianne Feinstein. This involves one of her staffers, his name is Russell Lowe. He was her driver, as you say, for a couple of decades but also, her liaison to the Asian-American community out in her home state of California. He visited relatives a few years ago, overseas, and became acquainted on the trip with someone who it turns out was connected to China's ministry of state security. Basically, a spy. As "The San Francisco Chronicle" says, quote: He didn't even know what was happening, that he was being recruited, he just thought it was some friend. Well, no, it wasn't a friend. So five years ago, FBI agents showed up at Feinstein's office here in Washington, and revealed that her staffer was actually under investigation. It does not appear the driver actually revealed anything of major substance, but the contact with China was so serious that Feinstein forced the aid into retirement and tried to keep all this quiet until "The Chronicle" blew the story up in about a week or so ago. Bottom line is the president has been trying to bring more attention to it, tweeting, among other things, quote: Dianne is the person leading our nation on collusion with Russia, only done by Dems, will she now investigate herself? Well, the senator fired back in a tweet, basically declaring that after being contacted by the FBI, quote, I took those concerns seriously, learn the facts, and made sure the employee left my office immediately. Well, Republican Lindsey Graham is demanding to know in the cases of Carter Page or George Papadopoulos, the FBI did not give the president a similar heads up and allow them to just leave the campaign, instead they launched an investigation. Here is Graham. (BEGIN VIDEOI CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: Why didn't they do for Trump what they did for Feinstein? What the hell is going on at the FBI? (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: In fact, in the case of Carter Page, as you know, he was put under surveillance for a couple of years, and he still has not been charged with anything, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Ed Henry at the White House, great report tonight. We appreciate it. Joining us now with much more reaction, former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, there he is, Joe diGenova. We got shiftless, or shifty Schiff, we'll call him, all right? We got him on tape colluding about naked pictures of Donald Trump, OK, with a Russian. Then we got a FISA Russian lies paid for by Hillary, used to spy on Americans. Now we got Bruce Ohr, Steele, Fusion GPS, what have we got there? Their Hail Mary, an evidence of the Hail Mary to push the Russian lies to the American people, to impact the outcome of an election, and then, when it fails, they are also helping a Russian oligarch who was kicked out of the country to get back in. If it wasn't so serious, Joe, and so freaking hypocritical, it would be funny. This isn't funny. We are losing the whole concept of our constitutional republic here. JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY, COLUMBIA: Well, from the beginning of this entire episode, it has been very clear that there was a brazen plot to exonerate Hillary Clinton, illegally, and if she lost the election, to frame Donald Trump with false crimes. Why did that happen? It happened because the FBI and the DOJ during the Obama administration were pro- Democrat and anti-Republican. I repeat, this was a partisan decision. This had nothing to do with criminal activity or anything else. They hated Donald Trump. They didn't like Republicans. Why do you think they didn't give a defensive briefing to Donald Trump's campaign about attempted Russian influence? Because they wanted to investigate Donald Trump, not help him. They wanted to frame him. In the case of Dianne Feinstein, they wanted to help the little Democrat who didn't know she had a Chinese spy on her staff for 20 years. I must say, the pathetic nature of the partisanship of the FBI and DOJ under Obama really lays bare the simpleton-like remarks of the president -- the former president, when he said, there was not a scintilla, not an ounce of scandal and his administration. Obama's administration, as far as the FBI and DOJ are concerned, will go down as the single most corrupt FBI and DOJ in the history of the United States. Thank you very much, President Obama. HANNITY: It's that, it's so much deeper, it is surveillance, it is unmasking, it is raw intelligence leaking. But let me stay in this. Strzok and Page, we're going to -- we stop him, we have an insurance policy. DIGENOVA: Right. HANNITY: Hail Mary passes, Russian oligarchs given consideration, Russian lies paid for by Hillary. Lies to the American people, literally, misinformation pushed out by a lot of these people. DIGENOVA: Yes, indeed. HANNITY: Then you have got Ohr and Steele and Fusion GPS. They are all coordinating together here. Then we've got these other examples of people really helping a Russian oligarch, real tapes of collusion and conspiracy with Schiff, all of this, these written evidence here, that they want to stop Trump, they want to destroy him, they want to throw their Hail Mary, and then they want an insurance policy. DIGENOVA: Yes, and it's very clear, that is a beautiful outline of the criminal case that needs to be investigated by the Department of Justice against all those senior FBI and DOJ officials. Because what-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Where are they, Joe? Well, Manafort is on trial for a 2005 tax charges? Where's Mueller? DIGENOVA: Mueller doesn't want to do anything with this. And that's Rod Rosenstein-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: No. He want -- does he want to take on the president? Now Ohr, interestingly, and Steele are talking about getting their information, there lies, to Mueller. DIGENOVA: This was, in fact, a plot to destroy Donald Trump with collusive evidence, with fraudulent evidence-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Is it going to work? Because I don't see equal justice under the law or application under the law. DIGENOVA: No. First of all, the president is not going anywhere. President Trump is fine. Nothing is going to happen to him. The real question is, what's going to happen to Bruce Ohr, why didn't Mueller look at any of this? What is going to happen to John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey, and all the people who committed crimes at the top of the administration? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Strzok and Page, McCabe, all of them. DIGENOVA: All of them. HANNITY: what's going to happen, Joe? Quick? DIGENOVA: If Rod Rosenstein is an honorable man, he'll make sure that-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Is he an honorable man, Joe? DIGENOVA: I can't answer that question. I wish I could. HANNITY: Where is Jeff Sessions? Where's Mueller? DIGENOVA: Asleep at the wheel. HANNITY: We have Russia collusion, evidence, proof. This is pathetic. When we come back, buckle up, the great one, Mark Levin, is next. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ATTORNEY: The reality is, the real story here is not that this case isn't going to fizzle. It's going to blow up on them. The real question is, what we talked about before, there's a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet. HANNITY: I know someone-- (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: A lot more to the obstruction of justice, to the collusion, to the fake dossier-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I know a lot. GIULIANI: -- trying to bring Steele back in after he was completely discredited. HANNITY: And then feed it to Mueller. GIULIANI: Yes, and Mueller is going to have a lot to answer for. (END VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani last night right here on this program, describing how Mueller's case is, quote, "going to blow up in the special counsel's face," well, he's been saying that for a little while, the host of CRTV Levin TV right here Sunday night, 10 Eastern, the number one show on Sunday night on cable news, it's the great one, Mark Levin. Let me let you pick up from here. But you also have been saying things that I've been paying very close attention to, the Constitution of United States is on the president's side. The president ought not to be speaking to the people that are running this witch hunt. Take it from here. MARK LEVIN, FOX NEWS HOST: First of all, Robert Mueller is a greater threat to this republic and the Constitution and anything Vladimir Putin did during the campaign. And I'm no fan of Vladimir Putin. He is threatening to take down the president of the United States. Now let's walk through this quickly. The president is not a witness to any crime. How do we know that? Because we don't know what crimes they are even talking about. So he doesn't need to be questioned as a witness. The president did not commit a crime. What crime did he commit? So he's not a target, he doesn't need to be questioned about that. According to the Department of Justice, president can't be indicted. A president cannot be questioned by a subordinate, like Mr. Mueller, about his prerogatives as president, that is the firing of a subordinate like Mr. Comey. what questions exactly does Mr. Mueller have? I'm talking to you, Mr. Mueller. Exactly what questions that you have where you seek to turn this country upside down and disenfranchise the over 60 million people who voted for this president of United States? You are a plaything of the media. You are a plaything of the Democrats. You are a plaything of people within the Obama administration who sought from day one to take this president down. Now the president of United States is not an ordinary citizen. He must protect the Constitution. He has to protect the Office of the Presidency. He has to protect the president's prerogatives. He has to protect the separation of powers. That's what this president is doing against this rogue prosecutor! It is Trump who has the white hat. It is a Mueller who has the black cat. And the president's lawyers should this go to court, should have a fantastic opportunity to expose Mr. Mueller, to question Mr. Mueller, to question, where does he have his constitutional power under the Appointments Clause. To question him about whether he thinks a president can be indicted even though the Department of Justice says no. To question him to explain why despite public report, public report, public report about the FBI, the CIA, the FISA report, the dossier, Hillary Clinton's association with Russians, we have Russians everywhere! But not with Trump! They are with Hillary Clinton, they are with Fusion GPS, they are with Mr. Ohr or Justice Department. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They're with Bruce Ohr. No, this is important. Stay on that. They are everywhere! Russian lies are sold to FISA court judges, a fraud committed on the court, not once, Mark, four times. Lies spread purposely to the American people, that sounds like the former Soviet Union, Mark Levin. LEVIN: So the question is, if Mr. Mueller is such a great prosecutor, why is he blind as a bat to all of this that's taking place in this country? You want to pursue Russia, Mr. Mueller, I can show you a first year law student who can show what to pursue. The fact of the matter is, ladies and gentlemen of the court, the president wasn't a witness to a crime, wasn't surrounded by Russian, the president didn't commit a crime, the president cannot be indicted, so, as I keep saying on this program, Mr. Mueller, you can leave the room and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. We'll see you in court. And if they go to court and it is an opportunity for the president's lawyers to expose exactly what's going on here. HANNITY: What should they do? This is important. LEVIN: Now, Mr.-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Focus on that. LEVIN: Well, I think what they should do is not only ask the court to explain what authority Mr. Mueller has to do what he's doing, given the ridiculous appointment that he received that is so broad, it's preposterous, and if you can indict a sitting president, you better have a damn good reason who want to sit down with him and question him. These questions thought to be asked at all have to be very, very narrow. I wouldn't sit down with him and answer any questions. The fact of the matter is, there is no obstruction of justice, he wasn't a witness to a crime, he didn't commit a crime, he can't be indicted, Mr. Mueller can't question him about presidential prerogatives. So what the hell is the point of this whole thing, other than to set him up for impeachment because the Democrats and the media want to remove our president who was elected by over 60 million people to disenfranchise all of us? What's the point of this, other than that? HANNITY: That's why we call you the great one. Mark Levin. Thanks for being with us. Don't forget, Life, Liberty, and Levin, every Sunday night at 10 Eastern, number one show on cable that night. Don't miss it. Coming up, we expose one of the most shameless examples of brutal media bias against the president, and of course is coming from the New York Times. Sean Spicer, Dr. Sebastian Gorka next. Stay with us. HANNITY: So-called paper record, the New York Times yesterday syncs to a new low when they published an op- ed, Thomas Friedman, titled "Keep up the blanket coverage of Trump, it hurts him." All the news that is fit to print, indeed. This is the same newspaper that recently hired Sarah Jeong to its editorial board. Now you may want to remember she is the one who, among other things, tweeted the hashtag cancel white people. She wrote that she gets, quote, "joy" to being cruel to old white men. Also took pride in her hatred for President Trump, writing, quote, "I was equating Trump to Hitler before it was cool," and of course, "f the police" so many times it's hard to count. Joining us with reaction, author of "The Briefing, Politics, Press, and the People," a New York Times bestseller, former White House press secretary Sean Spicer. Author of "Why We Fight," Fox News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka. Sean, these are all friends of yours. This is the New York Times. SEAN SPICER, FORMER UNITED STATES WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Well, look, I think they recognize, the Media Research Center did an analysis that 92 percent of the coverage against President Trump has been negative. So I'm not much -- I'm not sure there's more to throw at him. But the reality is that he's getting things done and his approval rating shows it. The unemployment rate is at 3.9 percent, more blacks and Hispanics are employed than ever before, the gross -- the GDP hit a new level at 4.1 percent. The deregulatory state is going down, the judiciary is getting remade. I mean, all of these things, no matter how hard the press tries to go against the president, he continues to get results for the American people. So I get that it is frustrating for someone like Mr. Friedman to see that no matter how much they fight against him, that he continues to succeed. And I think the American people are smarter than he understands, and they are actually showing it with their approval rating. So no matter how hard they try, he is getting results. HANNITY: Dr. Gorka, I look at the hire of the New York Times, I just sit here and I look at these groups, they love to attack every conservative talk show radio host, everybody on the Fox News Channel that has an opinion, even you and Sean and pretty much everyone they disagree with. And I'm wondering, let's just flip the script and say that, a conservative set these things. All these groups that get paid millions and millions of dollars to silence and boycott and attack and go to advertisers, they are kind of silent over this. I'm shocked. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: None of them are journalists. All those people, my former colleague Sean Spicer, how to deal with at the podium, they're activists, they are political activists. It doesn't matter whether it's the New York Times, the Daily Beast, Huffington Post, they are all activists. Thomas Friedman is why Donald Trump is president. This opinion piece tells you everything you need to know, Sean. What does he actually say in that piece? He says, don't focus on the facts. Don't actually focus on the economy, the lack of unemployment, the roaring trade, economics, we've got to take him down. That is the left. They haven't learned anything in the last two years and the results in these special elections this week in the primaries tell you everything that they have not learned. But hey, it's great. Roll on November and roll off-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Listen, I don't take any votes for granted. I want to be very clear here. I think this is the most important midterm. Impeach the president, you know, no vision to help the forgotten men and women of this country, no consideration, Obama failed and Trump has great economic success, foreign policy success, keep Obamacare, eliminate ICE, keep open borders, they want their crumbs back, and they want these investigations to stop. And, yes, Devin Nunes was right. SPICER: Here's what I'm going to tell you right now. Yes, And here's the reality, that if you -- if the Democrats were going to take control of the House, all you are going to do is add more and more investigations, 24 hours a day. That is what their agenda is. And all of the ability of President Trump to get his agenda with a Republican House is going to stop. People have to understand that President Trump may not be on the ballot this November but his agenda certainly is. We need to go out there with the same fervor that we elected the president with this November and keep a Republican House. HANNITY: Yes. Dr. Gorka, what do you say? We'll give you the last word. GORKA: I think November 2018 is potentially more important than November 2016. Fake news is real. The president is right to hit back, ignore them, get on social media, repost the president, find the facts out for yourself and ask yourself one thing, what do you think of the last year and a half? If you like it, that's what we need to vote for. HANNITY: But they got to know this is really, in a large way, about President Trump and destroying and stopping his agenda. GORKA: Yes. HANNITY: They've got to understand this is to undermine the vote that they had in 2016. SPICER: Look, Sean -- Sean, the reality is, and you said it earlier, they are going to destroy anybody that tries to support the president, they've sent now fake protesters supported by people like Samantha Bee to come after me. This is the problem. Anybody who is with this president right now, they will do whatever they can to destroy them. And I think we have to make it very clear right now what we're up against. HANNITY: Got it. All right, guys. Good to see you both. Right on commentary. When we come back, Tomi Lahren, she goes to San Francisco and asks the residents what they think about their sanctuary city policies. Do they remember Kate Steinle? We have much more. HANNITY: Yesterday we showed you Tomi Lahren hitting the streets of liberal Portland, Oregon. Well, tonight, Tomi takes on the city by bay, San Francisco to find out what people think of that city's sanctuary city loss and much more. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TOMI LAHREN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: What do you think about the state's immigration policy as it relates to being a sanctuary state by our lovely Governor Jerry Brown? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I agree with that. LAHREN: You do? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think we should stick the system. I don't think separating families at the border is the way to do it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If you are going to come over here at least do it the right way. And if you're coming into someone else's country. And if there is no immigration, then why do we even have borders? We might as well just open up to everyone. LAHREN: Do you think we should just have an open border? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Welcome all in. Welcome all. Welcome all. Yes. LAHREN: Welcome all? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. LAHREN: What do you think we are going to do in the state about the illegal immigration problem? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't have a crystal ball. So I really don't know where it's going to go. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's probably better for us to provide aid to these countries to help them become a better situation in their own country and then people don't have to come here illegally. LAHREN: Do you think they should follow the rule of law? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of course. Then everybody should have to pay their taxes, follow the rules and make the best result and that's how we might agree. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Thanks, Tomi. Pretty reasonable actually. You know, not too bad for San Francisco. All right. So many keep asking me when are we going to get to the end of this deep state? Remember, it's now worse than we ever thought. It's unappealing layers of an onion. We are not stopping it. And I can tell you this. I promise you it's getting much worse. We'll get to the bottom of it. We will always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Here's Laura Ingraham. Load-Date: August 10, 2018 End of Document "The Hill's" John Solomon: Christopher Steele Asked Bruce Ohr to Connect Him with Robert Mueller; Interview with President Trump's Attorney, Rudy Giuliani; The Mueller Team Plans to Send a Subpoena to President Trump in Order to Let Him Agree to an Interview, but President Trump's Legal Team Says that He is Not Compelled to Do so Because Mueller Has No Evidence of Any Crime Whatsoever Against the President; Most People in Portland, Oregon are Liberals and THEY think that Abolishing ICE Would be Good for the Community; HHS Secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen Says that a Reform of Immigration Laws Will Help Resolve some of the Problems Concerning Immigration and Immigrants Crossing the Border Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 8, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7698 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Andrew McCarthy Guests: John Solomon, Rudy Giuliani, Alan Dershowitz, Kirstjen Nielsen Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Mark, thank you. And a lot of news tonight. Welcome to HANNITY. Yes, tonight, 448 days into Mueller's seemingly never-ending witch hunt, but now with just 90 days to go until what I am calling the single most important midterm of our lifetime, there could actually be a light at the end of the tunnel. Earlier today, President Trump's attorney rejected interview terms from team Mueller and rightfully so, we'll explain. Now, this to me is an obvious perjury trap being set by partisan investigators. In moments, Rudy Giuliani, the president's attorney will be here with reaction. And also tonight, more major breaking news surrounding the deep state go-between Bruce Ohr, how the plot thickens tonight even much more than before. And "The Hill's" John Solomon unearth texts showing that former foreign spy Christopher Steele desperately trying to infiltrate and actually influence Mueller's ongoing investigation. New information. He actually used Bruce Ohr's connections to Christopher Steele. This is so much worse than we have known up to this point. We'll explain all of that coming up, and new developments surrounding WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. Will he finally be interviewed here in the U.S. about the 2016 election hacking, and what evidence might have? All of that, plus, we cover the president's tough new sanctions against Russia. Oh, I thought he was compromised. And, of course, comrade De Blasio, the mayor of New York City, he has a beef apparently with us here at Fox News. And its day seven of Paul Manafort's trial of the century and a bizarre, horrifying story about a recently arrested Islamic extremist in New Mexico, another story out of Pennsylvania. All right. Busy night, busy news night. A lot to get into. Stay tuned, it's time for our breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. We are going to start, we are going to go very slow tonight because a lot of new information. Robert Mueller and his team of partisan investigators, they want to face off with the president of the United States number but today President Trump's attorneys flatly rejected, rightly so, Mueller's interview terms. They have countered with a proposal of their own. In a statement, the attorney for President Trump, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani wrote: We are restating what we have been saying for months, it is time for the office of the special counsel to conclude its inquiry without further delay. Now, the former mayor is not predicting that the investigation could be over by September 1st. He will be right here on the show with more details in just a few moments. Without a doubt, President Trump should be aware. Now, Mueller, his merry band of anti-Trump deep state sycophants, Hillary Clinton, Obama, Democratic donors -- what's happening here, we all pretty much agree on -- they are laying a perjury trap for that president of the United States. Mueller should not get what he wants. The president, his attorney should not give in. The president should not sit down for an interview. Now, tonight, we have yet another example of just how corrupt and how flawed Mueller's witch hunt really is. According to a shocking new report tonight from "The Hill's" John Solomon, Christopher Steele, remember him? The former foreign spy responsible for the Clinton bought and paid for dossier? Oh, we now know he was also paid by your FBI, your dollars under Jim Comey while they were desperately trying to influence the ongoing counsel with the hunt into so-called Russian collusion and it gets worse. Bruce Ohr, the fourth highest ranking member of the DOJ, was trying to help Christopher Steele do it. This is months after Steele was fired for leaking. He got 11 payments from the FBI. On July 16th, 2016, before the election, Steele wrote to Ohr, quote: I spoke to my old colleagues last week. They assured me they would not stand in the way of our re-engagement with the bureau. Ohr texted back: I will pass along to my colleagues, thanks. And on November 18th, after the election, Trump won. Now, Mueller's witch hunt, by the way, was now underway. Christopher Steele writing: I am presuming you've heard nothing back from your special counsel colleagues on the issues you kindly put to them from me. And then Steele goes on to say: To say this is disappointing would be an understatement. Certain people have been willing to risk everything to engage with them in an effort to help them reach the truth. Now, yes, right, just like there's truth in that phony, unverified, uncorroborated, debunked dossier that the Clinton campaign used to smear then candidate Donald Trump, the same Russian lies that were used before the election as the foundation for the Mueller witch hunt and the op research used to mislead a FISA court on four, not one, but four separate occasions, four judges, so the government literally could spy on an opposition party candidate and Trump campaign associate. Now, meanwhile, according to a brand-new report from our own Sara Carter, a post-election 2016 handwritten document from Bruce Ohr listing the names of Strzok and Page and others in the FBI is also raising questions tonight about the extent of Ohr's communications with the bureau. And according to some other newly unearthed texts tonight, we are also learning he was concerned about the U.S. Senate's inquiry into the dirty dossier, probably because the contents were full of Russian lies and outright propaganda. And, by the way, he even said so himself, in an interrogatory. In England, he said it's raw intelligence. I have no idea if this is true, may be 50/50, really? Not only did he peddle his Clinton and FBI bought and paid for lies to you, the American people to sway an election. The bulk of that information that is false, Russian lies to get a FISA warrant as top officials, as I said, four separate times like the FISA court judges to spy on an opposition candidate. Then he turns around and tries to peddle his lies through Bruce Ohr. Remember, his wife Nellie -- well, she helped the build allies for Fusion GPS, the dossier. What did they do with it? They wanted to get it to Mueller post-election to destroy President Trump after the fact that they lost. They try to influence the election, it didn't work. Then they try to destroy the president. It is a national, disgusting, despicable disgrace, the biggest abuse of power by the top DOJ and FBI officials in this country, by the way, not rank and file. And according to Solomon's report -- we'll go back to that -- these communications between Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele, they were going on until late November 2017. That's more than a year after the FBI supposedly officially cut off all ties with Christopher Steele because he was leaking and lying about potentially classified information to the media again to peddle his lies to influence the outcome of our election. Now, this all comes on the heels of last night's shocking report that showed that Christopher Steele was working closely with Bruce Ohr before and after the 2016 election, again to spread the lies from his dirty dossier. He had no faith in those lies, throughout the highest levels of what is supposed to be our fair and unbiased justice system. Equal justice under the law, equal applications of the law. Now, at the time, Ohr, again, the fourth highest ranking member of Obama's Department of Justice, however, he has since been demoted because of his unethical ties to Steele and Fusion GPS. Now, Sara Carter, John Solomon, they will be joining us in a moment with more details. These are shocking new developments. It is far worse than we ever thought. But, first, we are also currently tracking another investigation into election hacking. Now, according to WikiLeaks, the Senate Intel Committee has now requested to interview WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. Now, Senator Burr's office has not confirmed the request but if it's true, it's about time. After all, remember, WikiLeaks, they were the ones that actually released those hacked emails and unlike so many other so-called journalist here in America, we took the time, we went to England, we sat down and we interviewed Julian Assange right here on the show and on my radio show and he said to us then, no government actor was involved in the hacking. You might remember, take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Did Russia give you this information or anybody associated with Russia? JULIAN ASSANGE, WIKILEAKS FOUNDER: Our source is not a state party. So, the answer for our interactions is no. HANNITY: You did not get this information about the DNC, John Podesta's emails, can you tell the American people a thousand percent you did not get it from Russia or anybody associated with Russia? ASSANGE: We can say -- we have said repeatedly over the last few months that our source is not the Russian government and it is not a state party. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, I would assume he knows where he got it and probably has the proof. So, let's let this country see where WikiLeaks got the information from. We're going to keep you posted when or if the Senate Intel does in fact interview Julian Assange. And, by the way, the House, they need to do the same thing. The American people, you deserve the truth. But tonight, regardless of what you think about WikiLeaks, it's irrelevant. We know one thing for certain: President Trump in no way colluded with Russia and instead the president has been extremely tough on Vladimir Putin's hostile regime. And today, we have one more example. Tough new U.S. sanctions levied against Russia in response to an assassination attempt of a former British spy conducted with chemical or biological weapons. These new sanctions will be applied to all Russian state-owned businesses and will reportedly affect 70 percent of the Russian economy. Gee, I thought the president was compromised by Putin. That's what fake news tells us, or NBC News suggesting he might actually be a Russian agent, President Trump. Now, while the president makes serious policy decisions and as he's conducting consequential peace through strength diplomacy -- well, many on the far left, they are obsessing over ICE, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency. Now, as part of their grand plan to get open borders, many on the left want to band together and ban ICE altogether. Earlier this week, we sent Tomi Lahren to Portland, Oregon, to interview some of these anti-ICE activists. This is a small portion, take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TAMI LAHREN, FOX NEWS REPORTER: I don't know if you've seen the last couple of weeks, but your city has been kind of home to some protesting, some controversy, a lot surrounding your mayor, and the Occupy ICE movement. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right. LAHREN: Are you familiar with any of that? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. LAHREN: What do you think about it? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think they should be able to protest. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't know if they need to be abolished, but I think we need to look seriously at the policies that are being practiced at the moment. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: FOX News, yes, you are a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) too. LAHREN: But I'm nice. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It doesn't matter. LAHREN: You just don't like FOX News? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, because FOX News is nothing but a bunch of (EXPLETIVE DELETED) capitalist lies. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Oh, she found a fan. Stay tuned, we're going to have Tomi's full coverage coming up. You're not going to believe how out of touch with reality some of these people really are. All right. Now, let's return to the horrific breaking story out of New Mexico. A father of a missing disabled 3-year-old son has been arrested at a squalid camp that is linked to Islamic extremists. Now, during this arrest, 11 children were found on this compound where it is believed weapons training was conducted. Now, with plans, of course, to use the children in future school shootings. The individual arrested was the son of a Brooklyn imam who was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center attack. Now, sadly, the remains of the young child were also found on this compound. A scary, tragic story we'll continue to follow. And we also have another topic to get to and it comes to us right here in New York City. Sorry, I pay high taxes, I'm stuck here. Far left mayor, comrade Bill de Blasio has a new favorite villain. They are looking at it right now. That's right. During a recent interview, comrade de Blasio blamed FOX News for dividing America. He tells "The Guardian", quote: If you could remove News Corp. from the last 25 years of American history we would be an entirely different place. Yes, that's true. We'd only have one opinion on the news, from the far left. A universal opinion because they're all a bunch of sheep, a utopian dream for comrade de Blasio. And like a true left wing extremist, well, comrade de Blasio detests diversity of thought. That's not good. Imagine 30 years without Rush? Oh, let's see, 30 years without talk radio? Twenty-three years without FOX News? All right. Finally tonight, our last topic covers day seven of the trial of the century, the 2005 tax and bank fraud charges against Paul Manafort. Remember, no collusion, has nothing to do with Donald Trump, nothing to do with the campaign, nothing to do with Russia. And while team Mueller is embarrassing themselves attempting to put the screws on Manafort as Judge Ellis said to get him to sing or compose against President Trump so they can impeach or prosecute him, well, it's Mueller's prosecutors who were actually feeling the heat from the presiding judge, T.S. Ellis III. Yesterday, Judge Ellis berated Mueller's legal team and even accused one prosecutor of being such a tough guy he was tearing up like a little crybaby. Today, Judge Ellis reportedly urged the prosecution, quote, focus sharply, speed up the pace of the trial, saying, quote: judges should be patient. They made a mistake when they confirmed. And meanwhile, Manafort's attorneys once again called out what is the questionable character of the star witness Rick Gates, pointing out that he had up to four extramarital affairs on top of, oh, let's see, embezzlement, lying, extortion and could have faced if he didn't get the free -- get out of jail free card from Mueller, could have faced 290 years in jail. Wow, all for 290 years in jail or say something about this guy. I think I'll take the jail. I don't think so. Now, as always, we'll continue to update you on this trial conducted by Mueller's team of witch hunters. This has absolutely zero to do with Russia, nothing to do with collusion, nothing to do with the campaign, nothing to do with Trump. 2005, put the squares to him so he sings or composes. All right. Back to our breaking news story tonight. Joining us from "The Hill", John Solomon, and FOX News investigative reporter, contributor, Sara Carter. John, we'll begin with you. Let's talk about this new development. This is massive tonight, put a lot of emphasis, go slow, it gets complicated. JOHN SOLOMON, THE HILL: Yes. No, it is. I think the bottom line is simple though. Months after Christopher Steele was discredited and terminated by the FBI because he has leaked to the media, a major violation of human source intelligence rules, there was an effort underway by him with his buddy Bruce Ohr, at that time a top deputy to Rod Rosenstein, to try to get him back into the FBI's good graces and possibly get him working, reengaged it says is the word used in this emails with special counsel Mueller. Now, it doesn't appear in these things that we can prove they ever got to Mueller, but the mere fact that a senior Justice Department official was trying to get a discredited partisan intelligence source back on to the case tells you all you need to know about this case. This is not the way counterintelligence is normally done in the FBI. Career people that sources carefully, they manage them carefully. They double and triple check their authenticity and their accuracy. Here, we turned a blind eye to their partisanship, to their inaccuracy and their documents, and we are still trying to get them in the investigation a year later. That is what's wrong with this FBI investigation. And this episode is one of the strongest -- strongest parts-- the FBI is talking to Bruce Ohr, they know this is going on. Someone has to come clean in the FBI and describe -- HANNITY: Let's slow it down. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: So, not only did Hillary and the DNC pay Ohr. SOLOMON: Right. HANNITY: Eleven payments by the FBI to Ohr. SOLOMON: Right. HANNITY: He's fired. SOLOMON: Though not for this case, that's important to note. Those payments were not for this case. They were for other work he did. HANNITY: Understood. But they are still paying the guy. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: You know, money came from him, understood. SOLOMON: That's right. HANNITY: Steele now hates Trump like Strzok and Page, correct? SOLOMON: He does, he does. HANNITY: OK. Steele even admits under oath in Great Britain, I have no idea if this is true. This is raw intelligence - - because he was risking perjury. SOLOMON: Yes. HANNITY: So, he tries to get Trump, the American people were fed by him, Hillary paid for it lies because they wanted -- they wanted to influence the American people with Russian lies that she paid for, correct? SOLOMON: Yes, there's no doubt. And after the president -- (CROSSTALK) SOLOMON: This is important -- go ahead, go ahead. HANNITY: And then after the election, they are trying to drag him back in, through the fourth highest ranking Justice Department official whose wife, incidentally, we believe -- we know she worked for Fusion GPS, but we believe on the phony Russian dossier and they're trying to bring him back because after Trump won and his dossier lies didn't work, then they were trying to take out the president with more Russian lies, correct? SOLOMON: The only reason to bring Christopher Steele back into the investigation that we can see in these documents is to sustain an inaccurate narrative in the public domain that they had this extraordinary evidence against President Trump that he was colluding with Russia. And as you know, James Comey said it wasn't there. No one has presented it since that time of any evidence that the president colluded with Russia. It was a political effort, not a counterintelligence effort. HANNITY: Sara, your report is also blockbuster tonight. That they're literally -- these documents that we now have written by Ohr two weeks after the 2016 election. Remember, those documents were designed to defeat Trump, it didn't work. But now, they're going back. Now, they are trying to use post-election notes from Strzok and Page, have many lawmakers, and investigators, and other documents, FBI had a back channel investigation, they never revealed. Tell us what you found. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, they never revealed it to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and this is essential, Sean, because they violated it. They withheld exculpatory evidence that the judges should have known about. Also, the documents reveal something very important. These are law enforcement sensitive documents. These are memos written by Bruce Ohr himself and on November 21st, he apparently either met with or spoke with Lisa Page. Remember, she is general counsel for former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. She also with Peter Strzok, her paramour, lover. And so, when you look at all of this and Joe Pientka, who was an FBI agent, the same one that interviewed General Michael Flynn with Peter Strzok. This is so important because in that note to himself, basically that memorandum, he also mentioned Paul Manafort, that they were moving forward against Paul Manafort. And that's essential here, because he couldn't move forward against Trump. They could move forward against Manafort but he did note, I would contact Christopher Steele. He basically noted to himself to contact Steele. So, what was he doing with Lisa Page, Peter Strzok and Joe Pientka? What was this DOJ official doing and why was this not disclosed to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court? I think those are the most essential questions that need to be answered. HANNITY: OK. Now, let's explain in your words, Sara, then we'll give John a chance. Explain in your words what this was all about. In other words, there were the top people at the FBI, we can go to Comey, we can go to the deputy FBI director who has been fired and may ultimately end up being indicted. And then we've got Strzok, and then we got Page, and then we got -- all of this going on. Now, Bruce Ohr and Nelly Ohr which are -- they seem to be much more involved than we knew up until this point. Explain how this was all about defeating Trump and then destroying Trump. CARTER: That was it. This was about either destroying Trump, before he could be -- you know, the president of the United States, ruining him before there was even an opportunity, and if he did become president, which he did, taking down a duly elected president. That is what they were working for, that is what they continued to do and that is what they were semi-successful, at because what they got, the end result -- Comey got it when they appointed special counsel Robert Mueller based on this evidence. And they also got it with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. HANNITY: And he was trying to get to Mueller through Bruce Ohr. CARTER: That's absolutely correct. HANNITY: Now, according to both of you, you are both telling me there's still a lot more to come. John, you are shaking your head. So, did they get to Mueller? And the fact -- it seems like they connected based on these emails we have. SOLOMON: Yes, I don't want to go that far. I think the FBI was receiving information during the time special counsel Mueller is in charge of the investigation from Steele. It is not clear that Peter Strzok or the other FBI agents told that to Mueller. We know that Peter Strzok had interviews as late as the summer of 2017 with the FBI with Ohr getting Steele's information. HANNITY: Wow. SOLOMON: So, it definitely made it into Mueller's investigation. HANNITY: All right. I'm just out of time. Thank you both. We're going to have you both tomorrow because there's more new information coming. Tick, tock. Up next, a "Hannity" exclusive with President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani. Also, Alan Dershowitz, and so much more, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now in studio responding to all this breaking news, it is President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani. Mr. Mayor, good to see you, sir. How are you? RUDY GIULIANI, ATTORNEY FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP: Good to see you, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Let's start with tonight's breaking news. So, you got Ohr, Steele, Nellie Ohr. We got Russian lies. GIULIANI: Can it get any worse? I mean, what do we need to know that this is a totally illegitimate investigation based on a report, a dossier that was paid for by Hillary Clinton and the Democrats -- probably the biggest illegality so far, the biggest collusion so far. HANNITY: Or conspiracy. GIULIANI: Completely made up. Completely made up. Led to nothing except several fraudulent FISA wires. And now, we have Mueller, who doesn't seem to care that he's sitting on top of a totally illegitimate investigation. HANNITY: But the dossier, thinking about the dossier that she paid for and the fact that the FBI paid Steele, it was designed to misinform the American people with Russian lies to influence the election. GIULIANI: Yes. HANNITY: There's a great irony here, if it wasn't -- GIULIANI: Well, may be if Mueller and his band of whatever they are, Democrats, right, were fair-minded, maybe they'd investigate -- maybe that's the collusion. Maybe that's the collusion. HANNITY: Did you ever hear the Adam Schiff tape that we played? GIULIANI: Yes. HANNITY: Adam Schiff, he's just dying to get naked pictures of Trump with a Russian on tape. There's your evidence, Mueller. You can't make it up. If it wasn't so seriously -- not only did they try to lie to the American people with Russian lies, now we know after the election, they tried to destroy the president with lies. And now, they are connected to Mueller perhaps? GIULIANI: Yes, I've never been involved in an investigation on either side that's more illegitimate than this one, that is so obviously more illegitimate. And I wonder where is the sense of justice on the part of Mueller, on the part of the Justice Department. After all, the Justice Department -- this is a Justice Department investigation. He is working for Rosenstein. And at some point, you've got to say the irregularities, the unethical conduct -- HANNITY: Double standard. GIULIANI: -- the double standard, the way in which people who hate Trump will put into primary positions of power has completely tainted this investigation. HANNITY: My family is families from law enforcement, my mom was a prison guard, you know, my dad, New York City, family court probation, so many cops in my family, FBI agents. I cannot believe this is such -- these are -- the rank-and-file are so good. Here's the thing, you responded today to Mueller's latest request and you think this could be over by September. Let's start with the request. GIULIANI: Well, I think of it isn't over by September, then we have a very, very serious violation of the Justice Department rules that you shouldn't be conducting one of these investigations in the 60-day period. Look, he's got plenty of time to either decide -- we offered him an opportunity to do a form of questioning. He can say yes or no. We can do it. If he doesn't want to do it, he knows the answers to every question that he wants to ask. He's going to ask them, did you tell Comey to go easy on Flynn? The president will say no I didn't. Hey, Bob, you know it. Why do you want to get him under oath? Do you think we're fools? You want to get him under oath because you want to trap him into perjury. Well, we're not going to let you do that. HANNITY: It's -- there's two separate issues: collusion and so-called obstruction. There's a report today that you said no questions on obstruction. Am I assuming here that your -- that your response to him was maybe a couple of written answers only? GIULIANI: No, I can't tell you what it is yet because we haven't -- no, I can't. I can't. Jay will get very angry at me. My co-counsel -- HANNITY: I understood. GIULIANI: -- is much stricter about this than I am. So, he'll get very angry and Jay (ph) will - I would love to tell you. But the reality is, the reality is he doesn't need to ask a single question on obstruction, he has all the answers. They are not going to change. The president is not going to change his testimony. So stop the nonsense. You are trying to trap him into perjury because they don't have a case. HANNITY: Mr. Mayor, the Constitution as our good friend Mark says, Mark Levin, is on the president's side. I agree it's illegitimate, has been, the double standard is so glaring. We have been pointing it out now every night and with new details every night. My question is, I wouldn't give him a thing. You don't owe him a thing and if he wants a fight, then there's going to be a fight. GIULIANI: Well, we don't like to fight, you know that. HANNITY: Mr. Mayor, I used to watch your press conferences. (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: I know. HANNITY: I disagree with that. GIULIANI: The reality is, the real story here is not that this case is going to fizzle; it's going to blow up on them. The real question is what we talked about before, there's a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I know someone-- GIULIANI: A lot more -- a lot more to the obstruction of justice, to the collusion, to the fake dossier. HANNITY: I know a lot. GIULIANI: Trying to bring Steele back in after he was completely discredited. HANNITY: And then feed it to Mueller. GIULIANI: Yes. And Mueller is going to have a lot to answer for. HANNITY: Mr. Mayor-- GIULIANI: I said a long time ago the investigation here has to be of the investigators because we can't let this happen again in American history. We may not have a president as strong as President Trump. A lesser president could have really been cracked by this. HANNITY: Mueller, then you got Jeannie Rhee, you got Andrew Weissmann. Here's my question, we know the Department of Justice has absolutely denied congressional subpoenas. Now I don't, because a great a lawyer as you are, I don't think you would get me out of trouble if I was ignoring a subpoena. GIULIANI: No, I don't think I could. HANNITY: But the president has the power to go through these documents to the FISA and make it un-redacted and let the American people see that the bulk of information was what Christopher Steele himself said wasn't verified. GIULIANI: That something that as his private lawyers that he has to deal with and his government lawyers. And he's going to abide by that. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Would you suggest he should? GIULIANI: I can't tell you what I suggest. It's privileged. HANNITY: OK. Let me ask you about the FISA lies. The bulk of information in the Grassley-Graham memo says came from the phony dossier that Hillary paid for. That turns out to be a lie. The author of it says he can't corroborate it. GIULIANI: Right. HANNITY: Now here's my question. So they used it four separate terms to spy on an American citizen, an opposition party candidate campaign associate in the lead up to the election after the election. Again, what if I lied to a judge? I wouldn't think of lying to a judge without getting my life in jail afterwards. GIULIANI: You would be investigated for perjury, you'd be investigated for contempt. Your career would be ruined. Your life would be ruined, and I believe that when this plays out over the next year or two it's not going to be about President Trump. It's going to get over with. It's going to be about all the things they did. This, you know how sometimes the cover-up is worse than the crime? In this case the investigation was much worse than the no crime. HANNITY: Mr. Mayor-- GIULIANI: The president did nothing wrong. HANNITY: My sources are telling me that when the American people get to the bottom of all of this it will shock the heart, the soul, and the mind of any fair-minded American. GIULIANI: I think it's going to lead to some very, very big reforms, just like Watergate. A different kind of Watergate on the side of the investigator. HANNITY: OK. GIULIANI: Corrupt investigations through and through. HANNITY: Why would you even consider a counterproposal? GIULIANI: When it's over with I will explain it to you. HANNITY: Boy, I'm not getting anything out of you tonight. Good to see you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. All right. When we come back, Andy McCarthy, Alan Dershowitz. Maybe I will get more out of them. That's straight ahead. GIULIANI: They are much smarter than me. HANNITY: Here with reaction to my interview with President Trump's attorney, the breaking news tonight, Rudy Giuliani, former assistant United States attorney for the all-powerful Southern District of New York, Fox News contributor Andrew McCarthy. All right. This book right here, you see it on your screen, I have it in my hand. I finished it. Everybody should read this. It is amazing. This is not a political book. This is a book about the Constitution and about the rule of law, equal justice under the law. So many important issues that regardless of political party you should care about. "The Case for -- Against Impeaching Donald Trump," Harvard Law professor, Alan Dershowitz. I'm glad you got out of Martha's vineyard alive. I'm glad to see. ALAN DERSHOWITZ, PROFESSOR, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL: I haven't gotten back yet. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I'm assuming, I don't know. I don't know any information whatsoever but I'm assuming the response today was we'll respond with written answers to written questions. There is the president in the case of Ronald Reagan. DERSHOWITZ: Well, if I were the president's lawyer, and I'm not, he has a terrific lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and a great legal team, I would make Mueller an offer, to paraphrase the godfather, that he couldn't accept. So that the president-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That he can't refuse. But-- DERSHOWITZ: Let me tell you why. So the president can say I wanted to testify. I wanted to testify. It was Mueller who didn't let me testify. He turned it down. I think it's very important that the American public see who actually made the decision not to testify. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And that also might actually help in an argument if there's a subpoena that ultimately arrives at the Supreme Court, correct? DERSHOWITZ: I think so and the Supreme Court is likely to divide the issue and say you can't ask the president about his motives, why did he fire Comey? You can't ask a senator or congressman or a judge. HANNITY: James Clapper admitted he has the right to fire Comey. DERSHOWITZ: Of course. So you can't ask about motive. But when he -- this one question they can ask him which would be a very difficult one, they can say did you know about the meeting with your son in the office, the Trump tower? Now remember the president has already said he didn't know about it. Cohen has said he did know about it. HANNITY: I think under oath he said something different though according to the testimony that he originally gave. So I think there's conflicting answers. DERSHOWITZ: But if the president says no and is truthful that he didn't know about it, Mueller would still have enough to charge him because all you need is one person-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That's the perjury trap. DERSHOWITZ: -- contradicting. It's the perjury trap. ANDREW MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: The big problem here I think is the burden is on the wrong side. You don't get to just as a prosecutor question the president of the United States, you wouldn't get to question a journalist. You would need to show that there was a serious crime that you had the president implicated in somehow and that he is the source of evidence that you need to make the case that you can't get from any other source. HANNITY: So the Constitution is on the president's side. MCCARTHY: Absolutely. DERSHOWITZ: The Constitution is on the president's side, the law is on the president's side. And you know, you just can't ask a president to explain why he took an action. Politics you can ask him, his opponent can ask him. HANNITY: He has the right to fire anybody. DERSHOWITZ: And to pardon anybody and to end any investigation. HANNITY: By the way, we had Adam Schiff on tape talking to a Russian, really, naked pictures, Putin saw them? Or the Russian lies that Hillary paid for. DERSHOWITZ: Right. HANNITY: You know what, is that collusion, is that conspiracy? DERSHOWITZ: I don't want to see anybody. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I know where you are. No, no, by the way you make a good-- DERSHOWITZ: Right. Yes, yes. MCCARTHY: I just don't understand why at this point -- look, in 99 percent of investigations investigative secrecy is a very important priority because most cases don't involve the president of the United States, but I think at this point, two years down the road we are entitled to know if the special counsel has a case and he should be -- he should have to come forward and show what the crime is. HANNITY: Are they going to push this to a subpoena? DERSHOWITZ: I think they will and I'm not sure they are going to win. Because remember Comey in his book says you never bring in a subject in your investigation unless you know exactly what he's going to say. He basically lays out the perjury trap theory and that's what's going on. HANNITY: But he is also the one that gives the most exculpatory evidence on a couple of points. Well, if somebody in my team, you know, wanted Russia collusion, you've got to do that. Let me ask you a question-- (CROSSTALK) MCCARTHY: If they already know what the president is going to say they shouldn't need to talk to him. DERSHOWITZ: That's right. Good point. HANNITY: Look at how far this is. A 2005 tax case, Manafort. He put the screws so he will sing or compose to get an impeachment or prosecution against Trump. Here's my question. Here's Gates, their star witness, is facing 290 years in jail perhaps. Let's say 100. I'm thinking a lot of people would lie and take the bribe of a get out of jail free card and say whatever the prosecution wants. DERSHOWITZ: Look, I can give you personal evidence of that. I've had so many clients who have told me they are prepared to compose to make up a story to get out of jail. I won't let them do that-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I don't like (Inaudible) you are one of our great prosecutor. You did the World Trade Center abroad. MCCARTHY: Sean, in my office under Rudy and going forward, you would not have gotten a plea agreement like this. You would have had to plead guilty to everything. HANNITY: Why would a juror believe a guy that's facing 100 years in jail gets a get out of jail free card but he has to testify? MCCARTHY: It depends on how corroborated he is. I mean, if they-- (CROSSTALK) DERSHOWITZ: Without a corroboration, this is a week case. If it has corroboration we'll have to see in corroboration. HANNITY: These federal cases, 95 percent conviction rate. (CROSSTALK) DERSHOWITZ: Ninety five-- HANNITY: Professor, that is scary. DERSHOWITZ: That's because mostly they go after people where the evidence is overwhelming. But when you start thinking about a Manafort case where the judge himself said you are not going after Manafort. They're going to squeeze in. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. I got to go. Tomi Lahren and Secretary Nielsen, next. HANNITY: All right. Recently, some of the left have been calling for ICE to be abolished. That means open borders. We sent our own Tomi Lahren to the liberal bastion of Portland, Oregon, the site of anti-ICE protests to find out what people thought about illegal immigration and ICE. Let's take a look at this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TOMI LAHREN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I don't know if you've seen at the last couple of weeks but your city has been kind of home to some protesting, some controversy, a lot surrounding your mayor and the occupy ICE movement. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right. LAHREN: Are you familiar with any of that? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. LAHREN: What do you think about it? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think they should be able to protest. LAHREN: Do you think that Portland has gotten more militant in the last year, two years? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I will just say crazy. LAHREN: Crazy? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have a problem with the immigration here, there's no simple answers here. LAHREN: Do you think that abolishing ICE is a step in the right direction? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think we have to look at our entire immigration policy. Our policy has failed. LAHREN: Do you think that protesting on either side has gotten out of hand? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For sure. LAHREN: What do you think it's about, do you think it's about really standing up for rights or is it about getting attention, what do you think is the goal? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think people have like a lot of personal vendettas, they want to be like personal warriors or something. LAHREN: Social justice warriors may be? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For sure. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Fox News, yes, you are (muted) too. LAHREN: But I'm nice. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It doesn't matter. LAHREN: My name is Tomi. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't care. LAHREN: You don't like Fox News. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. Fox News is nothing but a bunch of (muted). LAHREN: Very hostile in Portland. I mean, I know there's a lot of out-- (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. I mean, unfortunately, the only views that are being projected out here are extremist views. LAHREN: Right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you get extremist reactions and that's why you get extreme behavior with people coming up to you and flipping you off. LAHREN: You think a lot of people in Portland are misinformed that's what ICE actually does? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They just think about the kids, coming with or whatever. They don't think about the corruption, coming in, the drugs. LAHREN: Do you plan to go to any of the occupy ICE protest? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Depending on what my work schedule is like. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Liberal cities on the west coast, they aren't the only places protecting illegal immigrants. Listen to what the governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, said about ICE. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDREW CUOMO, GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK: I will do nothing cooperatively with ICE. I have sent them letters asking for an investigation. I have said if they do any criminal acts, which a police force can do, we will take criminal action against ICE because I believe they are politically motivated. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And you will never be president. Here with reaction to this and much more, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen is with us. By the way, Madam Secretary, I'm very sorry. I saw what happened to you in a restaurant and I know there's been other incidents with you. It shouldn't happen and we have Democrats telling people to get in the faces of secretaries, people in the cabinet like yourself. What's your reaction to that? KIRSTJEN NIELSEN, UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY: Well, I think the activism might be slightly misplaced in the sense that what needs to be reformed are our laws. Sean, as you know we don't have laws that will let us do what we need to do to protect the country. That's where we should place our activism, to reform the laws that we can secure the homeland. HANNITY: Let me tell the audience about a case that we just found out about and this is out of the city of brotherly love, this is out of Philadelphia. Previously deported immigrant from Honduras raped a child after Philadelphia authorities ignored ICE detainers and released him. Plead guilty to illegal entry. Anyway, it goes back to this particular man, Juan Ramon Vasquez, 45. Anyway, he faced a couple years in prison and was deported from the U.S. in 2009. Back in the country in March of 2014, taken into custody. Then after local criminal charges against him were dropped, Philadelphia officials did not comply with a detainer by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement. He was released. After his release he was rearrested and convicted for the rape of a child, and unlawful sexual contact with a minor. Isn't that about Philly's decision to disregard ICE detainers like Andrew Cuomo just talked about? Couldn't that be -- couldn't that have been prevented? NIELSEN: It could have been prevented and it should have been prevented. We owe the American people better. I mean, this is a perfect example of when jurisdictions decide not to cooperate with federal law enforcement we put our communities at risk. I mean, what that required was that the men and women of DHS go back into community at their own risk and the risk of the community where the criminal is to try to re-interdict and detain that person. HANNITY: Yes. As one person said he got a free pass from the city of Philadelphia and its Department of Prisons headed straight back into our community, committed a heinous crime. He never would have had the chance to commit had the city of Philadelphia complied with the ICE detainer. This is happening much more than people know. How many times a year -- how often is this happening? We have them, we know they are here illegally, we know they violated laws and then cities don't cooperate and then they get released and then commit other crimes. NIELSEN: It does. The good news is that we continue to increase our prosecution and our removal of criminal aliens, dangerous criminal aliens. But you are absolutely right. The only way this works to protect our country is if we can get back to a place where law enforcement works with law enforcement. HANNITY: Yes. NIELSEN: It's crazy that we have pitted blue on blue. They are here to protect the public together. HANNITY: Let me ask you, I had a source of mine recently tell me that drones are being used by drug cartels out of Mexico and they use the drone to find out where our law enforcement is positioned so that those that are either involved in human smuggling or drug smuggling, that they will know which direction, which route to take that is the most safe for them. And I'm told even though we know these drones are coming from Mexico, we can do nothing to take them out of the sky unless we get a warrant. Now the problem with that would obviously be if we get the warrant, the drones are back in Mexico. Is that true? NIELSEN: Well, it's not -- it's not just that, but let's face it, when we are talking about the technology we have today, these drones can fly up to 100 miles per hour so the concept of using an antiquated law to get a warrant to stop a nefarious drone is ridiculous. So we've been working really hard with Congress, there is bipartisan legislation that's been introduced in both Houses, but Congress has got to act. I need the authorities now to protect the homeland. This is not a question of if, it's a question of when. HANNITY: All right. Madam Secretary, thank you for being with us. When we come back, an important video of the day that you don't want to miss, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. The great one, Mark Levin on a recent episode of his show, CRTV Levin TV. He talked about the fake news media and all their anti-Trump hate, which is every minute, second of every day, every month of the week, every year. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARK LEVIN, FOX NEWS HOST: They have spent the last almost two years trying to take this man down. They don't really talk about the real Donald Trump. They take his words and they manipulate them, they take his tweets and manipulate them. Then they bring on people who disagree with them. If that's not the big lie, if that's not propaganda, than what the hell is? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That's for lies, its propaganda, misinformation and fake news. We all know that, every minute, every second, every hour, every day, every year now. All right. We will always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. Thank you for being with us. Let not your heart be troubled. Ingraham, big show. Jay Sekulow among your guests. Load-Date: August 9, 2018 End of Document Democrat's Effort to Remake America; Immigration Law as an Ongoing Human Rights Violation; Illegal Immigration's Consequences; Jay Sekulow Responds to Bob Mueller's Latest Request to Interview President Trump; Report Reveals Unknown Ties Between Justice Department Official and Russian Dossier Compiler; Analysts Examine Republican Performance in Midwest Elections; Court Rules in Favor of Non-Citizen Suing U.S. Border Patrol Agent; Democratic Opposition to Trump Administration Proposals for Prison Reform Examined Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST August 8, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8463 words Byline: Laura Inghraham, Jeanine Pirro, Ed Henry, Doug Schoen, Byron York, Ari Fleischer Guests: Francisco Hernandez, Jay Sekulow, Brian Watkins, Art Del Cueto, Art Arthur Body (JOINED IN PROGRESS) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, we're always going to be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy Trump media. Thank you for being with us. Let not your heart be troubled. Ingraham, big show. Jay Sekulow among your guest. See how smart I am. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, you know what I was thinking? If we should say -- we should do our own public service announcement and we can film it. I mean, it would be fun. If you have TDS lasting longer than five hours consult a physician. Trump derangement syndrome, right? HANNITY: Whatever you say is right. I didn't hear half of what you said. I don't know what -- INGRAHAM: No, it's TDS. You know, TDS. If you have it longer than five hours you should see a physician. I mean, I never understood that commercial with the two tubs by the by the way. I love it but I don't get it. Isn't that defeating the point, the two tubs? Do you know what I'm talking about? You are just totally behind me tonight. I don't think you can even keep up. HANNITY: I can -- no, it's not that I'm behind you. I can't really hear you. INGRAHAM: OK, Hannity can't hear me, so why are we even talking? We can't hear each other. I'm just going to do hand puppets. HANNITY: Well, now, you just keep talking. I'm just going to nod my head yes, Laura. Yes, Ingraham. Yes, ma'am. INGRAHAM: All right, Hannity. Thank you so much. HANNITY: Have a great show. INGRAHAM: All right. Good evening, welcome to Washington, I'm Laura Ingraham. This is THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. We have a huge show lined up for you tonight. President Trump's legal team firing back at Special Counsel Bob Mueller's terms for that presidential interview. Boy, oh, boy. Trump attorney Jay Sekulow. He does join us with exclusive details. And mainstream media breathlessly declaring last night's election results are a total wipeout for the president. But they may very soon regret that one. Plus, the Ninth Circuit's runaway judges are at it again with yet another attempt to dismantle our nation's justice system. We are going to tell you all about it. But first, the left's effort to remake America, that's the focus of tonight's "Angle." Every once in a while, leftists will slip up and tell us what they really think about America. In a recent interview, New York's new socialist "it" girl gripes that older Democrats in Congress aren't doing more to support a new crop of progressive candidates. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ, SOCIALIST: A lot of these folks were in their political heyday in the third way `90s politics. I think that politically this like upper middle class is probably more moderate, but that upper middle class doesn't exist anymore in America. You know, their heyday was in the `90s when like, you know, kids had like Furby's and like parents -- you had like soccer moms like two vans and stuff. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Furby's and two vans. OCASIO-CORTEZ: Yes. That's not America anymore! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's not America anymore. She said "like" seven times in that little -- five times in two sentences, I believe, something like -- I was trying to -- almost running out of fingers. As if she knows all of America from her loft in Queens. And by the way, what does she think, that moms outside of big cities can, what, cart their kids around on those dippy electric scooters or something? Oh my goodness. All kidding aside, what she seems to be saying is kind of hard to dissect it. Is that the new generation of women today are less moderate and I suppose closer to her socialist views? And I'm not sure what minivans have to do -- by the way, I happen to love my minivan. It rocks, but I've never met a single mother who own two of them. But Ocasio-Cortez's political magic apparently wasn't working last night because as most of her preferred candidates lost, and most of them by double digits. The real story was that in the heartland, moderate Democrats are looking strong. We will get to more of that story later on in the show. Nevertheless, she's kind of right in the general sense because in some parts of the country it does seem like the America that we know and love doesn't exist anymore. Massive demographic changes have been foisted upon the American people. And they are changes that none of us ever voted for and most of us don't like. From Virginia to California, we see stark examples of how radically in some ways the country has changed. Now, much of this is related to both illegal and in some cases legal immigration that of course progressive's love. Remember the old Democrats, maybe some of them that Ocasio-Cortez is referring to, they used to think that borders matter. But the new activists believe enforcing immigration laws is essentially an ongoing human rights violation. Of course they want to abolish ICE and so forth. Well today, we were reminded again of why our law has to be enforced, borders strengthened and the wall built, loopholes closed and sanctuary city policies ended once and for all. Check out what happened courtesy of Philadelphia's refusal to cooperate with ICE detainers. In May of 2009, Juan Ramon Vasquez, a citizen of Honduras was deported from the United States. Just five years later in March 2014 ICE officers found out that Vasquez was back in the U.S. and was in custody with the Philadelphia Department of Prison. Philadelphia however refused to comply with an ICE detainer request. So, Vasquez was instead released from custody. After his release, Vasquez was rearrested and ultimately convicted for child rape. This is an unspeakable act of evil that should have never occurred and never occurred on American soil. Remember when the current mayor of Philly did this after a judge ruled in favor of his city's sanctuary status? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMES KENNEY, MAYOR OF PHILADELPHIA: We are a sanctuary city! Yeah! (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, my gosh, what an embarrassment. At this point, I would hope the voters in Philadelphia would see the light and send Mayor James Kenney packing. He's a disgrace. If only such heartbreaking stories though were isolated events, they are not. Last weekend in Colorado Springs, a police officer, Cem Duzel, was critically injured. He was shot by an Iraqi refugee allowed into the U.S. under President Obama. Karrar Noaman Al Khammasi had been ordered deported after a felony trespassing probation violation only to be released by a judge who cited changes in the law. It was beyond tragic. And for all of you who are buying into the media narrative about the horrors perpetrated on children who were kept temporarily in HHS custody who've crossed the border -- the kids who have crossed the border illegally, consider an actual horror. An illegal who crossed the border with a child he claimed was his own. Well, that illegal adult turned out to be the child's rapist. Ramon Pedro showed up at a border crossing in Texas last April. He said he was traveling with his daughter and he demanded entry into the U.S. Well, like thousands of other family units, they were processed and then released into the United States, called "catch-and-release." Well late last month at a routine health screening, doctors discovered the girl had been sexually assaulted -- assaulted allegedly by him. And it gets worse. It turns out the young girl's mother knew that this coyote was a sexual predator, but sent her daughter with him anyway because the mother was promised ultimately later on a job. Who are these people? Really smart. Mother of the year award there. Who is going to make the argument that this poor, abused and brutalized girl wouldn't have been safer in U.S. detention than with a rapist? And on my radio show today I received this call from Travis from Nevada who told of his own personal loss at the hands, again of an illegal alien. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My brother in April was killed by an illegal alien while he and his son and his girlfriend were out on a planned bike ride. His son is nine-years-old and -- INGRAHAM: Oh my god. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- doing 60 miles an hour on a side street and hit him on his bicycle. The district attorney had said that, you know, confirmed that he is an illegal. INGRAHAM: Is there a lot of news coverage? I didn't see any news coverage of this story and I track all of these stories. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, not at all. Not at all. (END AUDIO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He's right. It's something the president, by the way, pointed out just a few months ago. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The media doesn't talk about the American families permanently separated from their loved ones because Democrat policies release violent criminals into our communities. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And if you are under the impression that these illegal crossings are somehow slowing down, well new data released in the last 24 hours tells a very different story. Border patrol apprehensions at the southwest border rose more than 70 percent year-over-year. Agents apprehended 31,303 people in July, up from 18,187 a year ago. And while it's good that they are being apprehended, we should be, you know, be a little bit alarmed, don't you think. Definitely feel like they are entitled to keep coming across the border. And by the way, there were 3,938 unaccompanied children apprehended last month. That's up from 2,475 a year ago, with another 9,258 families apprehended. That was up from 3,389 last July. And all those are numbers, but we have to -- these are our people, all a lot of people. It's a lot that this country has to process and ultimately most of them are released. And what about those who come here on valid visas? Well guess what, more than 600,000 of those who came on visas overstayed them in 2017. This is another completely absurd scenario. Everyone is gaming the system. Now, this is a sure way over time to remake and reshape America. This is exactly what socialists like Ocasio-Cortez want. Eventually diluting and overwhelming your vote with the votes of others who aren't, let's face it, too big on Adam Smith and the Federalist Papers. And as for those minivan-driving women from the 1990s, well, news flash, Alexandria, most of them are still alive and they vote. And I bet most of them don't like the lawlessness at the border and the crime it brings into our country. I have to believe that most American women are smarter than to fall into the socialism open borders trap. It's clear that we need a reset on the entire issue of immigration, illegal and legal. It's time that the president gives a formal address to the nation, preferably one from the Oval Office. He should lay out his agenda and the cost to the nation of not pursuing it. As he said before, merit- based, legal immigration is fantastic, but what we have now is a complete farce and we are all paying for it, some, as you saw with those examples, more than others. The president can be so persuasive, so give us the whole truth, Mr. President, the good, the bad, and yes, the uncomfortable. This is a national emergency and he must demand that Congress act now. There is something slipping away in this country and it's not about race or ethnicity. It's what was once a common understanding by both parties that American citizenship is a privilege, and one that at a minimum requires respect for the rule of law and loyalty to our constitution. And that's "The Angle." Joining us now with reaction, I'm so happy she is with us on set, Judge Jeanine Pirro, host of "Justice" right here on FNC and author of the huge best seller "Liars, Leakers And Liberals: The Case Against The Anti-Trump Conspiracy," along with immigration attorney Francisco Hernandez. It's great to see both of you. FRANCISCO HERNANDEZ, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: Hi. Thank you for having me. INGRAHAM: Judge, I think this is a national crisis. We are at a crisis point in this country on this issue and I think, you know, you could make the argument that America is changing. Trump slowed it down, but it is changing. JEANINE PIRRO, FOX NEWS HOST: She's right. She's absolutely right. You listen to Cortez and you say what planet is she from? Well, first of all, just to talk about Cortez herself, this is a young woman who actually grew up in Westchester County, went to school in Westchester County, one of the affluent suburbs in the country. But more importantly when you talk about the emergency, Obama started this. When Obama said that he was going to change the demographics of this country by allowing in refugees, opening up the border and now we are seeing a spike at the border. That's an emergency, Laura, because right now we've got a business model for smugglers. INGRAHAM: Huge. PIRRO: They know if they come in with young children that those kids are going to be released because they can't keep the family more than 20 days, they are going to end up being released and the parents are allowing this to happen knowing their kids may be raped, knowing all of this because they want their kids grandfathered in. And by the way, it's not just kids. It's MS-13. And as someone who has been a D.A., I mean, these are people who prey on other people and that is the way of life for MS-13, and more than half of immigrant families use one or more welfare programs. So when you talk about immigrants, they should be adding to this country and not taking away. INGRAHAM: Francisco, Nancy Pelosi was pretty -- she was pretty explicit, let's just put it that way, about how the voting for Democrats will give more leverage to the immigrant population, let's watch. HERNANDEZ: Look, I'm not here to defend -- (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. NANCY PELOSI, MINORTIY LEADER: We believe that we will have leverage when we win in November. And why that's important, because it gives leverage to every family, to every mom who courageously brought her child across the desert to escape death, rape, gang violence and arrest, because it gives them hope. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Francisco, do you think the Democrats or any politicians -- take Democrats out -- that's Pelosi there -- that they should be advocating on behalf of people who are actively trying to break our laws, saying if you vote for me we will give leverage to them? I've never heard of anything like that. I've heard a lot but I haven't heard anything like that before. HERNANDEZ: I'm not here to defend Pelosi or President Trump or Obama or President Bush. This is all a big myth and you stated just a few minutes ago it's time to push the reset button. But by planting a seed of truth and harvesting and orchid of deceit like the judge just did, what you are doing is you are scaring everybody into thinking that the sky is falling. We do need immigration reform. You and I have argued from different perspectives for the same thing for years, Ms. Ingraham. It's time for Congress to do something -- INGRAHAM: You can call me Laura. By the way, Francisco, I adore you. Francisco and I don't agree on everything, but I adore you. You can call me Laura, OK. It's too formal. I'm just Laura. HERNANDEZ: I will try but we are in Texas and you know, its Texas manners. INGRAHAM: But Francisco, look, we do -- it is a change though, and this is happening under President Trump because I think they know they kind of have us with this catch-and-release thing. And so just in the Yuma sector of Arizona, and I know you know where that is, we all do. We've been following this issue. A 120 percent spike in Yuma, Arizona, of families and unaccompanied minors over the past year. Ten thousand families, 4,500 unaccompanied minors, seven years ago, that figure was 98 families and 222 unaccompanied minors. And if that's not a crisis I don't know what is. HERNANDEZ: So what changed? Just about six months ago President Trump was telling us on national TV that the immigration issue, illegal immigration was down records, that the problem was in essence soft and when he couldn't get Congress to act on DACA on the deferred action. Guys, we can keep on chasing our tails like we have been for about 20 or 22 years, or we can get down and do something about it. Laura, you and I have plenty of common ground -- we just can't scare the population into paralysis by indecision, which is what we have. PIRRO: Let me ask you a question. When you say you can't scare the population, here's the bottom line. If you want asylum you go to a port of entry and you ask for asylum. If you want to come to America and you get in line like everybody else. What is wrong with that? HERNANDEZ: Fair enough. Tell us where the line is. PIRRO: What is wrong? HERNANDEZ: Nothing wrong. Nothing wrong. PIRRO: Who do we have to reconsider? INGRAHAM: They are not doing that. PIRRO: I'm sorry. HERNANDEZ: Except there is no line, Laura. There is no line. PIRRO: Oh, yes there is! HERNANDEZ: If we can just get that message across. There is no line for these people to come here and cross legally. INGRAHAM: But guess what, contrary to what the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is getting at in their opinion, we are going to get to this later on. You don't have an international right to come to America. HERNANDEZ: You're correct. INGRAHAM: I don't know where people get this idea that you have some universal, some type of global constitutional right to come into the country or get in the line. You don't have a right. We get to determine who comes in this country. HERNANDEZ: Let's just make a list of what we need to allow people to come here. Let's just make the requirements. What is wrong with that? PIRRO: Not just a list. How about you follow the law? INGRAHAM: How about not child -- PIRRO: Illegals are not a protected class. HERNANDEZ: There is a law. There is a law right now. PIRRO: Illegals are not a protected class. HERNANDEZ: They're not. INGRAHAM: They will be if Ocasio-Cortez has her way. PIRRO: That's right. HERNANDEZ: They are not a protected class on the constitutional jurisprudence. I agree with you on that. PIRRO: Right. So why do they keep crossing the border? Why do they keep doing that? INGRAHAM: Because we know why. HERNANDEZ: Because they are fleeing corrupt governments. PIRRO: -- the money for a wall. HERNANDEZ: They are fleeing corrupt governments and cartels. PIRRO: Oh, really?! Well then come under asylum and swear allegiance to this country. HERNANDEZ: But they don't qualify for asylum. You and I have agreed on that before, the asylum laws -- PIRRO: Well then maybe you better pass a law, Francisco. Maybe -- HERNANDEZ: If I could, I would. INGRAHAM: I think that -- there are corrupt governments all over the globe. HERNANDEZ: Yes. INGRAHAM: That's hundreds of millions of people who would want to come into the United States. If you've open up the credible fear, social status to everyone who fears crime, which is what a lot of people like Ocasio- Cortez want to do. That's what she wants to do, open it up to include anyone who lives in fear. Well, you better get ready for hundreds of millions of people to get in the line you want to create. That's the problem. HERNANDEZ: If that were true, they would already be here. INGRAHAM: American don't want them. They don't want them. HERNANDEZ: If that were true -- under current law but -- PIRRO: Are you kidding? Do we even know how many are here? HERNANDEZ: But you just said hundreds of millions. PIRRO: She just said that spiked in Yuma. HERNANDEZ: You're talking about the law that's in place now. Why don't we change it? Let's sit down at the table and come together on common ground. PIRRO: No, why don't people follow the law? Why don't you just follow the law? INGRAHAM: But I think we can all agree, the president needs to address this from the Oval and this should become a flash point now, not after the midterms, but now. HERNANDEZ: It was number one issue. INGRAHAM: This is a critical issue for the country and it is the number one issue on the last poll that was done on most important issue. HERNANDEZ: It is. So let's get to it. INGRAHAM: Fantastic conversation judge. It's always great to see you, Francisco. Thank you so much. INGRAHAM: Thank you, Laura. INGRAHAM: All right. The president's legal team delivers its response to Bob Mueller and his terms for a presidential interview. Trump attorney, Jay Sekulow joining us exclusively with the new details, next. INGRAHAM: It's one of the big looming questions of the Russia probe. Will President Trump sit down for an interview with Bob Mueller? The president's legal team gave its highly anticipated response to the special counsel today. Fox News chief national correspondent Ed Henry joins us now with details, Ed. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Laura, good to see you, the president's legal team tonight seems to be sending two clear messages to the special counsel. They are willing to work with him on a potential interview with the president but they believe it is basically put up or shut up time in terms of bringing this probe to some kind of a conclusion as part of a deal to get testimony from the president. Rudy Giuliani declaring this a short time ago with Sean Hannity, that this is Mueller's last best chance to get a one- on-one with the president and pushing for the special counsel to wrap this up by September 1st. That may seem like a stretch at this point but the fact is earlier this year Mueller privately indicated that the bulk of his work might be done by the summer, so it would not unfairly overshadow the midterm elections. Way back in April the "Washington Post" reporting Mueller had indicated to the president's legal team he would release a report on obstruction by June or July. That deadline clearly came and went. The caveat at the time was that Mueller wanted an interview with the president before concluding that part of the probe. But even if he subpoenas the president to testify, as you heard from the former deputy independent counsel Sol Wisenberg last night, it would take Mueller a long time to try to enforce the subpoena and there's no guarantee he will win before the Supreme Court. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SOLOMON WIDENBERG, FORMER DEPUTY INDEPENDENT COUNSEL: There is a reason Bob Mueller has put up with this dance for so long and I think a lot of people don't understand it. Mueller does not have the right to even litigate executive privilege. The first thing President Trump is going to say is I'm your boss. You can't even be in court. He probably can't win if he goes to court. (END VIDEO CLIP) HENRY: The president's attorney, Rudy Giuliani and Jay Sekulow, obviously know that. That's why Mueller seems to have preferred to try and get a voluntary interview. And it's also one of the reasons why the lawyers continued today to try and take a hard line in narrowing the focus of potential questions from Mueller dealing with obstruction and other matters because they have consistently said the president has vast executive power to hire and fire officials like former FBI director James Comey, Laura. INGRAHAM: Ed, thanks so much. And joining us exclusively now with reaction is Jay Sekulow, an attorney for President Trump's legal team. Jay, thanks for being with us tonight. JAY SEKULOW, ATTORNEY FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP: Hey, Laura. INGRAHAM: So, where are we now on this exactly? You gave your response. You are waiting for a response. How long do you anticipate the response taking from Mueller's team? SEKULOW: Look, I don't give dates. This is an investigation that its outset has been corrupt. There's no question about that. It continues every single day, there seems to be a new revelation. So, I'm not going to give a date. I think it needs to end very soon and it needs to end very soon because the nature of what's taking place here is irregular and that's being kind. And when I say irregular, look at how this started. It starts with the dossier from a foreign spy basically, Christopher Steele. He was an intelligence officer from Great Britain. He puts together this dossier on behalf of who? Fusion GPS and the DNC, OK. Another interesting fact and now we are getting a lot more information on that, the number four at the Justice Department, Bruce Ohr. His wife is working for Fusion GPS with Christopher Steele putting together this dossier. That's how this investigation commenced. So, as you know in the law, there is the doctrine of the fruit of the poisonous tree and I think that anything going forward here has to keep all of that in context and in mind before we agree to do anything. And right now the fact is, and I've said this and Rudy has said it and other lawyers that have commented have said it. If you lined up 100 lawyers, those 100 lawyers are going to say don't sit for an interview, and there's a reason for that. Not just the perjury issue but the fact that you would ask questions potentially if the president regarding Article II powers, I mean, you are a constitutional lawyer. The answer to that is no. INGRAHAM: Yes, they want more information, more documents. That would be a big, big fight. Daniel Goldman, former assistant U.S. attorney in the southern district commented on the concern that he says your team has about putting the president under questioning. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DANIEL GOLDMAN, MSNBC LEGAL ANALYST: They are absolutely right to be concerned that if the president were to go into an interview with incredibly well-prepared prosecutors who have not just the president's tweets and his own statements, but as Rudy Giuliani correctly pointed out, millions of documents, testimony from dozens of witnesses. They know the back story much better than any of us sitting here know it. And when they question Donald Trump he would lie within the first 30 seconds. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's being repeated across the media today. SEKULOW: Can I respond to Daniel Goldman's statement? Yes, but let me tell you something. Where do you think the special counsel received the millions of documents and the witness interviews? Because this president, unlike others, has decided that he would be completely transparent in the process. INGRAHAM: Yeah, but Jay, you don't know everything they have. You don't know everything they have. Obviously. SEKULOW: Of course not. Of course not. INGRAHAM: And that's one of the pitfalls. I wouldn't put my client in this position to walk into, you know, a perjury trap with obstruction of justice, but why would you even -- SEKULOW: Not going to happen. INGRAHAM: -- why would you even give them a narrow opening on obstruction? Is it because some lawyers are saying you know they will say no? Because they are not going to want to be limited in their questioning on the obstruction angle, whatever perverse angle they have. SEKULOW: Look, Laura, I've said this -- I've been saying this for a year. I will say it again. My thoughts and my view of the constitution is they don't have the right to ask any of these questions and I think that's supported not only by case law in the D.C. Circuit, but also by the structure of the constitution itself. So, we're not -- I can assure you this tonight, this legal team is not walking this president to a perjury trap, not going to happen. If there's any type of interview whether it's written or otherwise, it will be the appropriate type of response. We are not letting the president walk into a perjury trap. This investigation from its outset -- who would allow that in light of everything that has transpired and continues to transpire? So, I'm not going to disclose the contents, because you understand, I'm not going to disclose what we told the special counsel, but needless to say, we didn't accept their offer. INGRAHAM: Do you think it's possible to get a fair two hours of questioning knowing what you know now with the new revelations about the makeup of the Justice Department, Bruce Ohr, the new revelations about Christopher Steele, do you think you could get two or three hours of reasonable but tough questions from the special counsel? SEKULOW: Here's my response to that. I'm not inclined to believe at this point in the nature and scope of where this investigation is, that there is such a thing as a fair shake. Now, that's not to say that something couldn't be arranged, but I will tell you this, my inclination on speaking here as a lawyer to the president, I can also speak for our legal team. We'll Go back to the perjury trap. It is not going to happen. Thus, the question is, could they structure a series of questions that the president should answer under Article II of the constitution. And I think the hurdle on that is very high for them and they haven't established it at this point. INGRAHAM: Have you already briefed this to your legal team, Emmet Flood and the guys in the White House? Has this already been briefed in the event that this does go to court? SEKULOW: Laura, you've known me for a long time. I don't just deal with the plan A to plan B. And I'm one that practices before the Supreme Court. So the issue, which you are pointing to, is if there was an issuance of a subpoena, which is a serious question that I do not think the Justice Department has the authority in this case and would authorize it, because Bob Mueller is not an independent counsel, he can't do that himself. Are we ready to go to court if we had to? You bet. Do I think we are going to have to? I don't think so. If we do, we will do it. Look, you've got to protect not just this president, but the presidency. That's what's at stake here. Could you imagine every U.S. attorney that had an issue with the president of the United States could issue a subpoena for that president to testify? The founders knew that wouldn't work, and that's why they structured three branches of government and separation of powers. INGRAHAM: Jay, thanks so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it. SEKULOW: Thanks, Laura. INGRAHAM: And in a somewhat related turn, we have breaking reporting, I just referred to some of it, from Byron York on some nefarious ties between the British spy Christopher Steele, Fusion GPS's Glenn Simpson, and the Justice Department, that official Bruce Ohr. Byron will update us on all of these important developments. Stay there. INGRAHAM: They're breaking developments tonight about the link between Christopher Steele, the Justice Department and a Russian oligarch tied to Vladimir Putin. Joining us now with more, "Washington Examiner's" Byron York who breaking the stories tonight. Byron, tell us what you have learned. BRYON YORK, CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT, "WASHINGTON EXAMINER": Well, we are trying to find out about the origins of the dossier, long search. And what we found out through some new emails that have been released is that the dossier's author, Christopher Steele, the former British spy, was in touch with an official at the Justice Department, Bruce Ohr, a lot earlier than we thought. They were exchanging emails in January of 2016. And what was interesting here is that Steele was writing to Bruce Ohr at the Justice Department and he was talking about a Russian oligarch, Oleg Deripaska, and Deripaska had been involved with Paul Manafort and the 2000s. INGRAHAM: They got in litigation with each other. YORK: They're both suing each other. INGRAHAM: He's suing. He's not a fan of Manafort although he doesn't think what is happening to Manafort is fair. YORK: They both claim the other one was stealing from the other. His visa was revoked for a while because of suspicions that he was involved in Russian organized crime, Deripaska, that is. INGRAHAM: The details on that is never clear either. They don't really give you clear details on that. YORK: It appears that Christopher Steele when he's writing these emails is kind of lobbying for Oleg Deripaska, saying he wants to come back to the United States for a meeting, and it looks like it's going to get a visa and that's a really good thing because we are hearing he's not really a tool of the Kremlin. It was like he was lobbying on his behalf. And you're thinking what in the world is going on here? And then these conversations kind of morph at midyear 2016 into a dossier conversation. INGRAHAM: Are you saying you think Oleg Deripaska had something to do with the dossier? YORK: I don't know. He was in contact with Christopher Steele. INGRAHAM: Maybe he can have two conversations going on at the same time. Why do they have to be related? YORK: That's entirely possible. When Mark Warner, the Democratic leader on the into the Senate Intelligence Committee, wanted to get in touch with Christopher Steele he went to the publicist -- excuse me, the lobbyist who worked for both Deripaska and Steele. It's just an odd situation. Then, midyear 2016, Christopher Steele says to Ohr, we need to talk. I need to talk about some other business, but I specifically want to discuss with you informally and separately, and it concerns our favorite business tycoon. And now most people who have read this believe that's Donald Trump, because that's just a few days before Christopher Steele actually tells the FBI, gives them the first installment of his dossier, which is that famous Moscow hotel room scene. INGRAHAM: So does that get us further down the road to determining the original provenance of the dossier, who contributed to it? YORK: It gets us further down the road to who in the Justice Department in the U.S. government knew about what was going on and when they knew it. INGRAHAM: We still don't know the details of that, which is unbelievable after all this time. They don't want anyone to know the details. YORK: Because even if you are in Congress and have subpoena power, it's -- INGRAHAM: They won't give you the information. There's a reason they won't give us information. Fascinating stuff, Byron, thank you so much for that report tonight. Also tonight, when a win isn't really a win. All five candidates President Trump endorsed appear to have won in the Midwest primaries, but it was closer than expected, no doubt. And Ohio's 12th district has the media tongues a- wagging. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY ROSEN, POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Congressional Republicans are scared tonight, there is no question about that. CHUCK TODD, NBC HOST: Democrats I think are now heavy favorites to take control of the House. I think the question is really the size. They have a night like this like they did in Ohio, they could win 40 to 60 seats. DAVID JOLLY, FORMER FLORIDA REPRESENTATIVE: However this ultimately turns out, I think it's safe to say tonight that Democrats should begin having a conversation about who they want to be speaker of the House. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, my goodness. It's time to pick speaker already, is it? Look, there are some troubling signs for the GOP, but have they learned nothing, these analysts, from 2016? Ari Fleischer is a former press secretary of course for President Bush. Doug Schoen is a Democratic strategist, a FOX News contributor as well. Great to have all of you on. Let's start with you, Ari. It is amazing. Chuck Todd was out there today saying this could be like 50 seats for the Democrats in the House. I have no idea what's going to happen, but that's quite a leap from the events of last night. ARI FLEISCHER, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I think there are two things we know. There have been nine special elections, eight of them the Democrats fell short. That's eight brides who didn't quite make it to the altar. But there is a fact, and you have to be realistic as a Republican, that the voter turnout is high on the Democratic side. In Ohio, just looking at the numbers, the previous presidential year, 2016, the Democrat who ran got 112,000 votes. Last night the Democratic candidate Danny O'Connor got 100,000, 90 percent of the previous presidential turnout showed up in the special. On the Republican side, only 40 percent showed up in the special. The Democrats have a lot of voter enthusiasm that is turning out against Donald Trump, and that's a fact. INGRAHAM: And Doug, another story, of course, the socialists were pretty much rejected in the Midwest. Ocasio- Cortez, she thought she already had the magic wand, and she was running around endorsing people and giving the nod to people, and most of those folks lost. DOUG SCHOEN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: That's good news for the Democrats, Laura, because we really do not want these leftwing socialist candidates running as the party standard-bearer. We don't need Ocasio-Cortez making endorsements, and the worse her candidates do the better we do. I would add to what Ari said, I agree with him, that the suburbs are a huge, huge problem for the Republicans, and in Washington state there are three seats now in play that arguably weren't in play before yesterday. So I'm not going to go as far and say it's 50, 60 seats, but as a betting man and a prudent Democrat who tries to be objective, I think the Democrats are odds-on favorites to win the House and probably get 30, 35 seats if I had to bet as of today. But much can change. That is certainly politics. INGRAHAM: Ari, if you had to give the president some advice for some of the more important Republicans on the national level who will be out campaigning, what would it be on focus, on the issues that you should focus on? I have my own theory here, but I'm curious about yours. FLEISCHER: Let me put doomsday in context first. Republicans are going to gain seats in the Senate, I think. They are going to probably pick up one to three seats in the Senate. So for all the bad headwinds in the House, there's countervailing headwinds in the Senate races. I think the issue for Donald Trump is just to tone down the edges a notch or three so he's not always picking these fights that set a lot of suburban women and previous Republicans thinking that there's just something morally suspect about Donald Trump. That's where if he could only turn it down just enough, I think that he could energize the base without antagonizing a lot of the so-called moderates that Republicans still have to count on to win. That to me is the key, Laura. But I will also add one other thing. Special elections are a breed apart. There were 21 special elections when President Obama ran, and each of those 21 when you average it out, Democrats underperformed Obama's numbers by 7.9 points. Under President Trump, Republicans are underperforming Trump by 8.5 points. It's because specials -- INGRAHAM: Yes, he's popular in that district. And Byron, peace, prosperity, happy warrior, there is this investigation going on and all the intrigue that you've done all this investigation on, but Trump the campaigner, happy warrior, cracking jokes, the country is coming back, roaring manufacturing, I think women like that message. They don't mind the tough guy, but they want the pursuit of happiness part I think. YORK: There's no doubt it works with his base. And what Ari was saying is if Trump could just round off a few of the sharp edges, that is kind of an internal quest, and it doesn't happen. INGRAHAM: He's not going to do that. YORK: He's not going to do it. But there is a question. We know Republican strategists who are trying to keep the house, are looking at some of these suburban districts. They are worried about the president's job approval rating among people who maybe voted for Barack Obama and then switched over to Donald Trump. Maybe they are not fully on. INGRAHAM: Maybe they should start passing more of his legislation and actually protect the country from what we've been talking about early on. Fantastic conversation, guys, thank you so much. And is a Mexican killed on Mexican soil by a U.S. patrol agent protected by the U.S. constitution? The ninth circuit court of appeals just ruled yes. We are going to ask a border agent what he thinks that's going to do to morale and whether that will deter agents from actually doing their job, next. INGRAHAM: This is a headline that some would say is actually hard to believe. A U.S. federal appellate court has ruled that constitutional protections apply to non-U.S. citizens who are not on U.S. soil. It stems from a case of a Border Patrol agent, Lonnie Swartz. In 2012 he shot and killed a Mexican teenager through the Arizona-Mexico border fence. Swartz claims self-defense, saying a group of Mexican teens were attacking him, trying to force him from his position and clear the way for drug smugglers. They were throwing rocks and other stuff. But now the teen's mother is now, according to this decision, allowed to sue the agent in federal court for, it looks like civil damages. Joining me now to discuss, Art Del Cueto, a Border Patrol agent who grew up on the Arizona- Mexico border, and Art Arthur, a resident fellow in Law and Policy at the Center of Immigration Studies. Art, the majority opinion, which I painstakingly went through. In total it's 71 pages long in the ninth circuit. The judge, Judge Andrew Kleinfeld, I think we might have picture of him, he wrote the majority opinion. He's a George H. W. appointee to the court. He said the decision to allow noncitizens to sue, there's the judge, will not deter border agents in their duties because you don't have a right or a duty to shoot someone through the fence for doing nothing, because he had to accept the facts as they were, as determined by the district court. So he allows the suit to go forward. What effect might this have, you know this deal, on agents in the field? ART DEL CUETO, NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL: You look at the case itself and understand that the decision was based on -- they are bound to look at just the allegations that were done in the civil complaints, and they have to assume that those allegations are true. So if you look at it that way, you understand more or less why his decision was made. I've read the majority of those pages, and I can tell you that this individual was not just a teenager that was walking and strolling through the sidewalk headed home. We are talking about a criminal. That's who it was. And I've seen the video. They've shown the video, Lonnie Swartz went to court. The jury said that he was not guilty of murder, and now they are just beating a dead horse, and they want to go after him, they want to go after him, they want to make sure somebody has got to be guilty. The reality is, where are the guilty people? It's the drug dealers that are on the Mexican side. It's the drug dealers that were bringing drugs into our country. That's where they need to look at for guilt. INGRAHAM: But they are retrying the border agent -- they are retrying the border agent for I guess it's manslaughter. And Art, I want to go to you on this, because there's a circuit split, and I'm trying to be the law geek here, but the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled no, you do not as a noncitizen have a constitutional right to bring action in federal court against a federal agent. You can imagine where this is going to go, that noncitizens are going to be able to sue for denial of, I don't know, asylee status, refugee status, H1B visa. If you have a right to sue in federal court in this kind of theory, I think anything goes. This is obviously going to go to the Supreme Court. Your take on this as you know the facts to be? ART ARTHUR, CENTER FOR IMMIGRATION STUDIES: There's plainly a circuit split between the Fifth Circuit and the Ninth Circuit, as you stated. The Ninth Circuit erred and recognized you can apply right of action for damages for alleged constitutional violations by a Border Patrol agent for a number of reasons, First and foremost of which is that it interferes with the political branch's jurisdiction over not only the national security, but also the foreign relations of the United States. In addition, the court has acted where the Congress has refused to act, to grant tort damages to aliens injured by federal agents abroad. Quite frankly, this can't stand, and if it stands in this case, very strong, very straightforward, and quite frankly correct. INGRAHAM: I want to read part of the dissent by Judge Milan Smith, appointed by George W. Bush in 2006. He wrote by creating an extraterritorial Bivens remedy in this case, meaning qualified immunity is breached, the majority veers into uncharted territory, ignores Supreme Court law, and upsets separation of powers between the judiciary and the political branches of government. That is what Art just referred to. And there you go. So it's a separation of powers point and also citing Supreme Court precedent on this. Judge Kleinfeld said this was a Fourth Amendment -- this is a Fourth Amendment claim. You are depriving someone of their life -- it's a seizure claim, Art. And, again, the facts of this case will be disputed when the suit goes forward. But again, I think this opens up federal agents, Border Patrol agents, ICE agents, to a world of hurt and trouble in federal court if this kind of action is deemed to be able to go forward and the Supreme Court doesn't do the right thing, Art. DEL CUETO: Laura, this is how ridiculous this case is. It's something that's being pushed here in the Tucson sector. The Tucson sector is responsible for close to 50 percent of all the drugs that are seized in the country. And what this message is doing to these agents, it's telling them that it's OK to be a smuggler, it's OK to attack our federal agents, and you have a way to sue us if we defend ourselves. That's the reality of what this case is being pushed as. It's sickening. It's truly sickening. INGRAHAM: Judge Kleinfeld just dismissed that in the majority. He said holding Swartz liable for this constitutional violation would not meaningfully deter Border Patrol agents from performing their duties, because he's a big expert I guess in Border Patrol duties. It's ridiculous. Thanks so much, guys. DEL CUETO: I would like to know what academy class did he graduate in the Border Patrol? INGRAHAM: The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals judicial activism branch, that's what he focused on. DEL CUETO: That's it. INGRAHAM: Guys, thanks so much. And the left loves to claim it's the champion of inner-city communities and prison reform. So why is the reality proving to be just the opposite? Coming up. INGRAHAM: Don't you notice that the left always claims to occupy the high ground when it comes to issues surrounding inner-city communities, issues like prison reform. But their words and policies rarely back up the claim. Instead of offering reforms, they offer rhetoric, poisonous rhetoric like this from Elizabeth Warren last Friday. Sorry. "The hard truth about our criminal justice system, it's racist, I mean from front to back." That will move the debate forward, yes, great, fantastic. So she doesn't want prison reform. She wants the whole thing reexamined back to who gets arrested, when they get arrested, how they get arrested, because the whole thing is obviously corrupt and racist at its core. And remember back in May when President Trump and House Republicans, remember when they were pushing for prison reform? Senate Democrats actually sunk it just to avoid giving the president a win. You have to ask yourself now, who is really serious about fixing problems in communities the Democrats have essentially taken for granted for years? Joining me now is civil rights attorney Brian Watkins. Brian, it's great to have you on. Michelle was going to be here to debate you but her satellite feed went down. So lucky you, you have me. BRIAN WATKINS, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: Lucky me. INGRAHAM: Brian, I think the president is really committed to this idea of prison reform, and they are going to I think I'll tackle sentencing reform as well. But let's just go back and listen to what the president said on the subject earlier this year. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Two-thirds of the 650,000 people released from prison each year are arrested again within three years. We can help break this vicious cycle through job training, very important, job training, mentoring and drug addiction treatment. We'll be very tough on crime, but we will provide a ladder of opportunity for the future. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So Brian, then we get the pushback from the Democrats, "New York Post" headline, you probably saw it, Trump's push for prison reform faces opposition from Democrats. What's going on here? I thought the Democrats were the ones who really cared? WATKINS: They do. And we would be supportive if Trump did actually what he says he's going to do in putting reform and put job programs in there and help educate a lot of the kids in the inner-city so they don't have to see a prison cell. That would be great. But the problem is there's rhetoric on both sides. Donald Trump talks a lot but he has yet to do anything about it. INGRAHAM: For prison reform you have to have Democrats in Congress actually agree to work with him on this. He's not going to be able to -- he's not going to be able to wave a magic wand and get this done on his own. This is a Congressional push. They talked about this for years. Now you have a president who actually wants to do it. They brought in faith leaders. They are bringing in folks from the business community, and they want to get this done. So are you saying that Democrats with this president, despite what Elizabeth Warren is saying, that they will actually work with people like Jared Kushner, who is also spearheading this effort? Will they do it? WATKINS: Hopefully. What Elizabeth Warren was saying is there's racism in the criminal justice system. And step one is recognizing that fact, that there is in fact racism in the criminal justice system. INGRAHAM: Yes, but is black on black crime for instance right now in Chicago a bigger problem for the community than just the racism that you claim is in the criminal justice system? WATKINS: It's both. Both are problems. I understand the problems in Chicago. The number one way to stop gun violence in Chicago is to stop pulling the trigger of a gun. You won't have any shootings if you do that, I understand that. But there's a bigger systematic problem that we also have to address. If we don't recognize that there's racism in the criminal justice system, we won't be able to fix it. INGRAHAM: You can do prison reform and have that other conversation at the same time. We are going to have you back with Michelle in a longer conversation. INGRAHAM: Closing out tonight with a 10-year-old boy attending a Tennessee fair. Avery Price, who often uses a wheelchair and requires braces on his legs, is becoming a viral sensation after getting up for the National Anthem in spite his disability. Avery told local reporters, quote, I usually sit and put my hand on my heart, but last night I decided to stand because I like my country, like to stand for my country. Inspiring words, Avery. And thanks so much for doing that, inspiring us all. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team are up next. Shannon, have a great show. Load-Date: August 9, 2018 End of Document Corruption at the Highest Levels; Rosie O'Donnell's Unhinged Anti- Trump Rant; President Trump's Attorney, Jay Sekulow, Explained Well that Special Counsel Robert Mueller Has No Legal Right to Question President Trump Because He Has Not Laid Out any Concrete Evidence Against the President on Anything They are Accusing in Connection to the Russia Probe; Jay Sekulow also Said that Despite Their Legal Team Advising the President Not to Have a One-on-One Interview with Mueller, They still Can't Stop the President if He Decides for Himself to Do So; Comedian Rosie O'Donnell, Together with Her Group, Gathered Outside the White House to Rally against President Trump Without Knowing that the President Wasn't Even There in Pennsylvania Avenue; Polls are Now Coming in from Ohio's 12th District and the Two Candidates, Democrat Danny O'Connor and Republican Troy Balderson are in Neck-and-Neck Race Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 7, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7370 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro, Gregg Jarrett, Jesse Watters, Jessica Tarlov Guests: John Solomon, Mark Meadows, Jay Sekulow Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Welcome to HANNITY. Tonight, we have huge major breaking news on multiple fronts, including election results from five states. We're going to be updating the numbers as they continue to roll in. But, first, a shocking breaking news report from John Solomon. It is even worse than we originally thought. Tonight, we now have clear evidence that former Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr was at the very center of the Clinton campaign's effort to influence, yes, and rig the election, and actually by using your federal government as a tool to do this against Donald Trump. Now, this is worse than we ever thought. Now, newly declassified text personal memos, handwritten notes from Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele tonight are showing what is a coordinated effort between the Clinton campaign, the Obama administration to use the infamous Clinton bought and paid for dirty dossier to drag down Donald Trump vote before and after the election. We're going to have all the damning new details coming up. Plus, reaction, John Solomon, and Freedom Caucus chairman Mark Meadows. This is a huge breaking story. Also, tonight, must be a slow week for the destroy Trump press as they continue to push the same old, fake, phony, recycled scandal about the infamous meeting at Trump Tower. Now, we're going to call them out once again. And if you thought they couldn't get any more abusively biased, all the fake news media, they rolled out longtime Trump hater Rosie O'Donnell to bash the president. We have all the lowlights. Now, plus, the left's hypocrisy on full display last night. The West Hollywood City voting unanimously to remove Donald Trump's star from the Hollywood Walk of Fame, citing his disturbing treatment of women. Oh, meanwhile, Bill Cosby's star is there, Brett Rattner's star is there. Kevin Spacey star is there, totally intact. And we'll also show you all the updates from day six of the trial of the century, the 2005 tax case of Paul Manafort. By the way, an incredible exchange between team Mueller and Judge Ellis, apparently, Mueller's guy was in tears. Now, sit tight. It's time for tonight's important breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. For over a year, we have been reporting accurately and now we know more about Bruce Ohr's suspicious ties to Fusion GPS. Remember his wife Nellie Ohr actually worked with Christopher Steel for Fusion GPS, and the ones that put together the Clinton bought and paid for Russian dirty dossier. And as you know, the dossier was a campaign op research document put together by Steele himself. He doesn't stand by it. A former foreign spy, full of Russian lies, full of misinformation, full of propaganda, Hillary paid for it, the DNC paid for it, all by funneling money through a law firm to Fusion GPS. And now, according to John Solomon's reporting tonight, we have clear evidence that Bruce Ohr, the fourth most powerful person in the Obama Justice Department was working hand-in-hand with Christopher Steele and Hillary Clinton's op research team both before and after the election, clearly to stop President Trump from winning the election, and then after he won the election literally destroy him with the Clinton funded Russian lies that nobody ever verified and has now been totally debunked. Now, let's take a look at some of the most damning evidence. Look at this, July 1st, 2016, Christopher Steele reaches out to Bruce Ohr, wrote, quote: There is something separate I wanted to discuss with you informally and separately, it concerns our favorite -- well, business tycoon. Now, that clear reference was to then candidate, President Trump, that was followed up on July 30 of 2016, three months before election day. Steele met Bruce and Nellie Ohr for breakfast. Now, this was a meet-up that was documented by this text. Quote: Great to see you and Nellie this morning, Bruce. Let's keep in touch on the substantive issues. Glenn Simpson, founder of Fusion GPS, is happy to speak to you on this if it would help. Now, just one day later, one day, anti-Trump FBI investigator Peter Strzok, he opened up the investigation into the phony claims of Trump-Russia collusion. Do you see how this is all coming together? And after the election ended, and President Trump was sworn in, which they didn't think would happen? Well, then, the communication even continued now on January 31st 2017, president, now president, just sworn in. Steele texted Ohr, quote: Just want to check you are OK, still in the situation and able to help locally as discussed along with your bureau colleagues. Now, this text is actually damning for two reasons. One, it shows that Bruce Ohr was, in fact, feeding the FBI, steals lies, misinformation and propaganda. And number two, it shows the FBI was breaking their own protocol, their own rules. Steele had been barred from working with the FBI in November of 2016 because of his leaking to the news media. And let's also keep in mind the major role that this Steele Clinton paid for dirty dossier played in the FISA applications against the Trump campaign associate Carter Page. We now have proof. Bruce Ohr likely funneled the dossier to the FBI a document or new was up research bought and paid for by the opposing political party in an election year. And remember just that yesterday on this program, House Intel Committee Chairman Devin Nunez, he revealed exculpatory evidence was completely omitted from the FBI's FISA applications against Carter Page. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. DEVIN NUNES (R-CA), CHAIRMAN, HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: There is exculpatory evidence that we had -- that we have seen of classified documents that need to be declassified. These were not -- HANNITY: Exculpatory nature in what way? I don't mean to press, exculpatory in what way? NUNES: In that the Carter Page, FISA when those -- the judges should have been presented with this exculpatory evidence that the FBI and DOJ had. Do you see this? There you have it. This is Obama's Justice Department. Part of Obama's branch literally using your federal government, your tax dollars, in this case as a weapon against the Trump campaign and then later the president of the United States, President Trump himself. They use Clinton campaign material, never verified, never corroborated. The phony Russian dossier to rig a FISA court application, lying to judges to spy on team Trump. Then they use, the very same op research that she paid for to open up a phony Russia collusion investigation into then candidate Trump. And then they leaked the contents of the dossier to the press because they wanted to influence the election in favor of Hillary Clinton against Donald Trump and lie to you the American people and on top of it all, the FBI, on top of Hillary paying Steele, through Fusion GPS, and the DNC paying them, the FBI paid them. The FBI made 11 payments to Christopher Steele. I have been saying and now it has all come together, the biggest political corruption, abuse of power scandal in our lifetime, this should outrage every single American I don't care what your political affiliation is. Let me say this slowly. They try to steal in the United States of America a presidential election, and we have the evidence. In other words, they abuse their power to steal an election, a presidential election. Our Justice Department has been weaponized for pure partisan political gain. We have so much on this major development. We're going to talk to John Solomon and Mark Meadows in just a minute. But in other news, just the latest example of why so many Americans can't trust the media. They've been missing in action on that scandal. Last night, we called them out again for hyping up yet another fake news story about the 2016 Trump Tower meeting between Don Jr. and the, quote, Russian lawyer -- oh they met before with GPS and after the Fusion GPS. Anyway, they claim the president finally admitted to collusion. That's what you have now been hearing for days and days and days. They said there was stunning new evidence that the Trump Tower meeting was political. OK, it ended up being about adoption. None of this is new. Zero. None of this is stunning. None of this is collusion. We've known for more than a year that Donald Trump Jr. took the meeting, yes, because like everybody else -- oh like Adam Schiff and Hillary Clinton, yes, everybody wants oh, op research on their political opponents. That didn't stop the media even though we've known him for well over year and the president said it from recycling a fake scandal two days in a row - - oh frankly, all weekend. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: President Trump has made an about-face and that much- discussed meeting between his son Don Jr. and a Russian lawyer at Trump Tower back in June 2016. The president now admitting, it was all about getting information on Hillary Clinton. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is now bluntly acknowledging that a Trump Tower meeting central to investigation was, in fact, about getting dirt on Hillary Clinton from the Russians. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All of a sudden now, the president is confirming bluntly what it was all about. He says there was no violation of the law, but he he's admitting finally what it was all about. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think we've actually entered now a very different realm because we're no longer speculating. Now, we actually have people essentially admitting what happened. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The people -- yes, the people being in this case the president nine states inward on twitter admitting what happens. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All of this phony, fake, feigned moral outrage over a non-story that the president had talked about, we've reported, they all reported over a year ago, that's why we call them to destroy Trump press. That's why the American people don't trust you people in the media. And by the way, that's why we'll call you fake news. And if you thought the media is biased couldn't get any worse -- well, think again. In order to bash President Trump, he got paid news CNN, conspiracy TV MSNBC rolling out the longest known sufferer of Trump derangement syndrome ever. There she is Rosie O'Donnell. Last night literally standing in front of the White House, leading a sing-along protest against her arch nemesis. And naturally, the media was more than happy to give her a platform so she could spew all of her hatred on national TV, shocking. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROSIE O'DONNELL, ACTRESS: He should not be president and I don't believe that he's a legitimate president. I believe if it wasn't for Russia, he never would have won. They actually gave him the election. I believe that firmly and I think a lot of people do. I believe he should be impeached. I'm sickened by Congress that doesn't call for articles of impeachment when we have so much evidence of his horrible high crimes and misdemeanors. Did they come in there and make Trump win when every single exit poll and every person in America knew for sure that Hillary Clinton was going to win? Do you think that there was anything to do with Russia or just a real big swirl for a Donald Trump in these specific areas with the same exact amount of votes that were needed? We're going to stand up at the polls and let him know and unless he goes in and has the Russians kind of fix it, like he did last night in 2016, you know, we're going to see him gone. And that's what I'm waiting and hoping for. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That Rosie's hatred for the president is widespread among all her friends in Hollywood, and all the elite. Last night, the West Hollywood City Council, they voted unanimously, they're removing Donald Trump's star. Oh, how devastating, from the Hollywood hall of -- walk of fame, in part because of Trump's, quote, disturbing treatment of women. OK. The move is nonbinding. However, because the West Hollywood City Council is no authority over the walk, let's take a look at the stars' not targeted last night by the West Hollywood City Council. There we have Bill Cosby recently found guilty of drugging and sexually assaulting a woman, and you have dozens of other similar allegations levied against Bill Cosby. Oh, there he is, Kevin Spacey. Oh, yes, he's facing tons of accusations of sexual misconduct for more than 10 people, including multiple victims who allegedly abused in their early teens. You got Brett Ratner he's been accused by multiple women of serious sexual misconduct and assault. Jeffrey Tambor, Oliver Stone, and many others. But the West City Council is saying, their vote has nothing to do with politics, whatsoever. And finally tonight, day six of the biggest trial of the century, the 2005 tax case of Paul Manafort, well, it's come to a close, but not without a very tense moment between team Mueller and Judge Ellis. Now, according to reports, the judge reprimanded prosecutor in court and then accused him of tearing up. This would be Mueller's guy. And Judge Ellis repeatedly clashing from day one with members of Mueller's legal team often questioning the relevance of, quote, the evidence or so- called evidence presented in court. Meanwhile, the prosecution's star witness Rick Gates, he continued his testimony from the stand Manafort's defense attorney -- oh, they raise serious questions about the character of the star witness, including all the instances he actually -- let's see -- embezzled a ton of money from Paul Manafort, the defense team accused Gates of using the money to fund secret life and an affair in London. And despite all of that, the odds are definitely stacked against Paul Manafort who currently faces a potential life sentence. This is a 2005 case. And remember what the judge said -- to put the screws to Manafort, to make them sing or compose, so they'll get information, so they can get Trump. They started with his lifestyle. They talked about oligarchs. Then we got the Mueller team guy tearing up in court. And the judge ripping him saying, look at me. I think the judge knows what's going on here. I think it's pretty obvious but because Rob Rosenstein's mandate was so broad and this has nothing to do with Russia, nothing, nothing to do with collusion, nothing to do with Trump, nothing to do with the election at all. Well, it's going -- this is what Mueller gives us. Here with more details, reaction to our top story surrounding Bruce Ohr's connection to Glenn Simpson, Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows, and from "The Hill", John Solomon. John, it's your story. Let's get to the how a senior DOJ official helped Democratic researchers on the Russia case, before and after the election. JOHN SOLOMON, THE HILL: Yes. HANNITY: Break it down. SOLOMON: I think you hit it in your monologue just right, Sean. We now know that Bruce Ohr was not just some ancillary figure. He was a central figure. He was the glue that connected the Democratic opposition research effort to destroy Donald Trump during the election by accusing him of having ties to Russia with the Justice Department and the FBI. And he's not just anybody. He's the deputy to the deputy attorney general. That means the same Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates who signed the FISA warrant for Carter Page, her man is meeting outside of the FBI with the primary sources that Hillary Clinton dug up and he's coordinating. In the beginning, he's finding out what's going on and he's talking then when Christopher Steele is fired by the FBI, he's told -- the FBI told him, you're no longer suitable as an asset to be a source and you may not gather any more information under the color of the FBI. And what happens 21 days later, Bruce Ohr is gathering information for Steele and giving it to the FBI and Pete Strzok is right there playing wide receiver catching it. It's extraordinary. The FBI is violating its own rules, it's probably misleading the FISA court. The Justice Department has kept us in the dark about this for 18 months. We'll see tomorrow how good the media is. I'm going to put these documents up on "The Hill" Website. People can go read them themselves. Let's see if the media writes a month as much about this as they do about the Manafort trial. HANNITY: Yes, Manafort, the trial of the century over tax case. Congressman Meadows you have been and other Freedom Caucus members, have been the ones number one demanding transparency demanding subpoenas are complied with, there's been obstruction, there's been delays, there's been phony redactions, phony claims to national security. As we now learn tonight from this reporting of John Solomon, this is deeper. This is more corrupt. There is a bigger abuse of power and obviously, they wanted the government tried their best -- the highest levels of the FBI and DOJ to defeat and then undermine a president in the United States. Tell me if that's wrong. REP. MARK MEADOWS (R-NC), FREEDOM CAUCUS CHAIRMAN: Well, it's not wrong and what we're seeing tonight, John's done some great reporting and obviously, Sean, you have been on this from day one. But what we're seeing tonight is Bruce Ohr who was with the Department of Justice actually was working as a go-between, between them and the FBI. Now, what we're also seeing is we're not talking about one or two or three contacts, there was over 60 different contacts made between Bruce Ohr, and Christopher Steele trying to get dirt and actually sell dirt on this president. And we also have text messages now that confirm that Peter Strzok actually worked with Bruce Ohr. So, it's amazing that it's taken so long for this to come out. O'DONNELL: OK. So, now, we got Comey. Then you got the number two guy at the FBI. Now, you have Bruce Ohr number four at justice, then we had all the Strzok and Page. Then we got everything else in between. How come nothing ever happens to these people and we're back to a tooth -- we've got Adam Schiff on a tape literally colluding with a Russian thinking he's got naked pictures of Donald Trump. Is that a conspiracy? Is that collusion? Is that worse what they're claiming about Trump? And then we got Hillary paying for Russian lies, manipulating the American people, and on top of that, using it to spy on Americans. John Sullivan -- how -- or Mark Meadows, we'll go to you, first -- how deep does this go? And when do these people ever get held accountable? MEADOWS: Well, we know that there's two standards. One -- for those that are well connected and we're seeing that as John is reporting tonight, but it goes very deep. If you start to read some of these emails and the text messages, we're just now starting to uncover really how awful this was. You know, let's put it in context. It was July 30th, the day before the investigation started when there was a meeting at the Mayflower that started this between Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele. HANNITY: All right. Last word we're going to give to John Solomon tonight. And where is this going, there's more coming? SOLOMON: The conspiracy that we're going to all be looking at in a month for now will be the one inside the Justice Department to defraud the FISC Court, the FISA court. I believe that's where this goes. HANNITY: Explain that in a little more detail. SOLOMON: I think for sure, the FBI was intentionally keeping this information, this contact with -- between Ohr as a go-between the flaws in the case of stuff Devin Nunes told you last night. They were keeping, omitting exculpatory information and hiding their back-channel to the Clinton campaign. And that is going to be a real problem for the FBI when this is all done. MEADOWS: Without a doubt, agree. HANNITY: You agree? All right. We're going to follow this again tomorrow night. We're going to get more reaction. Judge Jeanine Pirro and Gregg Jarrett are next. Jay Sekulow, the president's attorney, should the president ever talked to Mueller? I say no. We'll ask him. (NEWSBREAK) HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with more reaction to our opening monologue tonight -- the author of the number one "New York Times" bestseller, it's called "The Russian Hoax: The Elicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Greg Jarrett. Oh, also with us, number one "New York Times" bestselling author, "Liars, Leakers and Liberals: The Case Against the Anti-Trump Conspiracy", host of "Justice", both friends of the show, Judge Jeanine Pirro. It's amazing. You guys -- you're number one, he's number one, you're number one, he's -- congratulations to both you. I love you both. This new development about Bruce Ohr, this is before the election, this is after the election. Christopher Steele is all over this. He's a liar. He's a leaker and I am thinking they not only tried to steal an election, a presidential election, they have tried to destroy this man with somebody they paid and was also discredited, whose dossier was debunked who he under oath said it was raw intelligence, not true. JUDGE JEANINE PIRRO, "LIARS, LEAKERS AND LIBERALS" AUTHOR: Well, you know, what's amazing about all of this is that it fits right into the plan. If you were going to write a story about what was going on in the FBI and the Department of Justice, he would be part of it. And the fact that this is out now, when it took so long for it to come out, think about how the FBI and the DOJ has been hiding everything they can. HANNITY: Where's the 20 pages? I want the 20 pages. PIRRO: You want the 20 pages. We all want the 20 pages. HANNITY: But isn't the president's say, give me the 20 pages? PIRRO: Because right now, the president is allowing this whole investigation to take its own course. You know, Congress has oversight, what are they doing about it? They're doing the best they can some of them, but some of them are not. HANNITY: OK. What is the point of checks and balances, Gregg, and what is the point of separation of powers and you subpoena somebody, they ignore your subpoena and you don't hold them in contempt or impeach them? I know the Freedom Caucus has talked about it, but they're getting real pushback from Ryan and the -- and obviously, the leadership. What do you make -- this is deeper than we ever thought. This is now getting so bad, I got to ask, where's Robert Mueller on this? Where is he Gregg Jarrett? GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Well, he's looking in there all the wrong places and the latest documents show that the FBI and the Department of Justice knew that the dossier was phony. They knew that Christopher Steele was a liar. He was on the FBI's payroll. He was on Hillary Clinton's payroll. He said he was desperate to stop Trump. His bias was so severe and pervasive, they should have disassociated themselves from him. After they fired him, unbelievably, they continue to use Christopher Steele in violation of FBI regulation. So, they were very devious about it. They used Bruce Ohr at the Department of Justice as the conduit, intermediary and he fed the FBI information. HANNITY: Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr, and Christopher Steel, they're all meeting and she is working for Fusion GPS, and so not only are they meeting before the election and not only are these lies disseminated to the American people to steal an election, then they're meeting to give the information to Robert Mueller? Is that what they're doing, Gregg? JARRETT: You know, this is really the definition of corruption. The Department of Justice, the FBI, this is really a shameful episode in James Comey's legacy and, you know, it's amazing to me that they continued to obtain information about the president, after he was elected, after he was inaugurated, well into last year. Why? Because they were still trying to verify that dossier which Steele himself said was unverifiable because they had used it as a fraud on the FISA court. PIRRO: You know, the amazing part of it is that this guy Christopher Steele had been hired by the FBI. They -- HANNITY: Wait, we now know 11 -- he was paid by Hillary. PIRRO: That's right. HANNITY: Well, Fusion GPS, but really by Hillary and the DNC. PIRRO: Yes, her money funneled through Fusion GPS, as well as Perkins Coie. But one of the things in the article they talk about engaging Steele after 2016 as a confidential human source assisting in the probe. What does that tell you? That tells you that Christopher Steele may have been a spy in the Trump campaign. HANNITY: But even after he's fired -- wait a minute. (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: He still in conduit for information. HANNITY: But he's also the bulk of every FISA application. That application and the three subsequent applications. PIRRO: Let me tell you something. That application was a re-upped every 90 days, it tells me that the judge who re- upped the FISA warrant, was someone-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: With multiple judges. PIRRO: -- with multiple judges, should have had additional evidence in addition to the unverified dossier. Every one of those judges who signed that warrant should be up in arms unless they knew that they a part of an illegal investigation and surveillance. HANNITY: Gregg, you get the last word. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: If there was any probable cause to launch the investigation of Donald Trump. There were no crimes to justify criminal investigation, and no intelligence that justify the counterintelligence probe. Facts were invented or exaggerated, and it all appears to be a hoax to destroy Trump. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, that's called the conspiracy and it's called Russia collusion. All right. Last question, quick answer, both of you. Should the president answer a single question of Mueller? PIRRO: Absolutely not. Mueller doesn't have the authority, he hasn't identified the crime. He hasn't identified that he can get it from someone else. HANNITY: Gregg Jarrett, should he answer even, let's say, a written question. JARRETT: No. HANNITY: Or anything? JARRETT: No. Nothing whatsoever. Mueller really doesn't have the legal right to do it, and Mueller has proven he cannot be trusted, he has ruined the integrity of his own investigation. HANNITY: All right. We're three for three because I agree with both of you. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: Congrats, both of you, number one New York Time bestseller. It's an amazing accomplishment. When we come back, we'll ask the president's attorney Jay Sekulow this very question. Later, Jessica Tarlov and Jesse Watters, whose world will it be, as Hannity continues. HANNITY: All right. So will President Trump, should President Trump sit down for an interview with the special counsel Robert Mueller? Joining us now with reaction, President Trump's attorney, Jay Sekulow. Jay, great to see you. JAY SEKULOW, MEMBER, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LEGAL TEAM: Good to see you, Sean. HANNITY: I could ask the very same question of Gregg Jarrett and Judge Pirro and every other attorney. Joe DiGenova, I've talked to, almost every attorney, universal in saying, absolutely not. Can you give us an update? SEKULOW: Sure. Well, the first thing is, look, you have to start with this proposition, the depth of corruption that led to this investigation and that frankly continues to permeate this investigation is unprecedented. So you have to start with that. You mentioned in the earlier segment the irregularities and that's being kind of what took place here. So you have to start with, the question whether the president would sit for an interview. What the proposition is there are constitutional basis upon that interview can take place. Now frankly, it's the position of the legal team and it's been a pretty clear on this in the last couple weeks, that our position is that there's not a constitutional basis to move an interview forward. And what I mean by that is the article two power of the presidency is very clear. And the idea that you have a series of questions involving the president's motives for particular actions as it relates to article two power, would frankly be inappropriate in our view, unconstitutional. So then you ask yourself, does that answer your question? Well, look, the president has stated that he wants to do an interview. I will tell you the position of the legal team is that we do not advise that. However, there continues to be ongoing discussions and dialogue with the office of special counsel to see if there is something that can be worked out, that we would be comfortable with. Short of that the answer of course is no. But if -- ultimately the one that makes that determination though, or the lawyers can advise is the president of the United States. So he will make that decision obviously in consultation with his legal team. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But Jay, I know you're an attorney-- SEKULOW: yes? HANNITY: And by the way, and you have been my counsel. SEKULOW: Yes. HANNITY: But my question, if you told me absolutely not, I don't think you would appreciate or accept me saying I'm going to do it anyway. That's my, you know, I've known him for 20 years. (CROSSTALK) SEKULOW: You know what, I understand that, Sean, but you're not the president of the United States. So there's a different calculus. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Yes. OK. No kidding. SEKULOW: Look, clearly our inclination, look. Clearly the inclination is no and you could -- I could put a hundred lawyers in the room and a 100 of them are going to say that. I make the joke when I'm talking to reporters that, you know if we put the president up for an interview you will have 12 lawyers saying, I can't believe they did it. If you don't put the president up for an interview those same 12 lawyers are going to say what are they hiding. But if you look at the constitutional issues that are implicated by an interview, it's very serious. It raises very serious constitutional issues that go to the heart of what you mentioned earlier, separation of powers, article two authority, I've been saying that for a year and nothing has changed in that regard. Ultimately, the decision is up to the president, we will give advice but there aren't ongoing discussions to see if there could be something worked out here. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Jay, if something worked out here, I looked at the team that Mueller has put together. The president has tweeted about the team he's put together. SEKULOW: Yes. HANNITY: I look at Andrew Weissmann's atrocious record including, let's see, putting innocent people in jail, overturned 9-0 in the Supreme Court, overturned 5-4 -- overturned in the fifth circuit. Tens of thousands of people lose their jobs withholding exculpatory evidence. I'm not going to drag you into that battle but I've got to ask you-- SEKULOW: Well. HANNITY: Is it -- it's about the two questions would be obstruction and collusion. There is no evidence of collusion. Can we compare what they are accusing the president of with Adam Schiff's tape, where he is like, you know, excited because he's talking to a Russian that has dirt on Donald Trump supposedly? It turns out to be a hoax. SEKULOW: Yes. HANNITY: Is it collusion that Hillary paid for Russian lies before the election? And it was used to get by. SEKULOW: There's two things here. First of all, I think we got to be clear on this. This idea, there's been no evidence put forward on any type of collusion between the president and Russian. I mean, no one has put evidence forward on that. Now that's number one. Number two, let me tell you this. When people say the word obstruction, I want everybody to understand the context in which this is arising. This is arising in decisions that the president makes under his authority under article two, who is going to work for him, who's not going to work for him, where things are developed were they're not. What policy positions they take, what policy positions they do not. The idea that that would constitute some kind of violation of the law, to me, it seems not only a bizarre legal theory and untested but frankly, out of order under our Constitution. But let's go back. You're using these examples of the people involved in the investigation on the legal team. Let's go to what started this investigation in the first place. You had an unverified dossier put together by Christopher Steele who ends up getting fired by the FBI for linking. James Comey wants a special counsel so he leaks a memo that he created based on a conversation that he had with the president. Now if an FBI agent did that could you imagine the repercussions of leaking that memo? But it gets even better. You've the number four at the United States Department of Justice, I know you've already talked about this, Bruce Ohr, whose wife is working for a Fusion GPS, Nellie Ohr. And what is her job? Her job is to work with Christopher Steele, the former British intelligence officer who's putting together the dossier against the president. Now you know what? The fact is, no one could -- it's hard to believe that those are really the facts. You know what the problem is, Sean? Those are the facts. And really no one has disputed any of those facts. So the problem here is a foundational problem, that's why I say the irregularities in the corruption involved in the process from the beginning is a really unprecedented. So, all of that factors into the decision that's ultimately made, whether there will be an interview or not. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me ask you this. SEKULOW: Or whether it will be written questions or not. That decision we are close to making that decision, I don't ever give dates. So I will tell you this-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How is this going to end, when is this going to end? SEKULOW: I think it ends soon, I cannot give you the date because here's what happens. Let me give you the process. Bob Mueller under his authority will issue a report. That report though does not go to the Congress. This is an independent counsel. We go to the deputy attorney general who is the acting attorney general and then he will determine what goes forward. At the same time quite frankly, we are developing a report that is going to lay out all of these issues that we've talked about. So that's how -- this is not a trial. And people need to -- I think people understand that, this is not a trial in the traditional sense of anything, this is a political process that is going forward, and I want to be clear here. The constitutional issues which is the reason I got -- I was involved in this case in the first place, in fact are the major issues that this issue -- that this investigation turns on. There are serious constitutional implications of this, not just for this president but for the presidency. And that's what history will remember. So that's why we got to be very careful and very direct on how we move forward. HANNITY: Let me ask you one last question if I may. SEKULOW: Yes. HANNITY: The president has the power to declassify all the subpoenaed documents that Congress has been withholding. And they've been -- they've not been living up to the subpoenas. I don't think I'd get away with that even with you as my great attorney. SEKULOW: Yes. HANNITY: The president has a power to demand they'd be literally unredacted and released, why doesn't he do that? SEKULOW: Well, look, he's respecting a process that's in place that his White House team -- that is not a decision we make as his private lawyers. As his, as council of the president we are not the White House counsel so that's a decision made within the context of the White House and their purview. That decision I'm sure is being discussed and the issues are being discussed, so I'm not going to -- I'm not going to defend what has or has not happened there because that's outside of our jurisdiction. Needless to say, and I think this is fair to say, and the American people are asking for this, transparency is important here. And I think one of the aspects of transparency is, what are in these documents. And if it doesn't put our national security at risk I would think that it should be something that should be released and declassified. But you know what, I said, you're not the president, I'm not the president either. I don't get to make those decisions. HANNITY: How about Bruce Ohr and this relationship with Nellie Ohr-- (CROSSTALK) SEKULOW: Still at the Department of Justice. HANNITY: -- Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele and the FBI was paying Christopher Steele? SEKULOW: Yes. Well, look, they fired -- they fired Chris Steele because he's leaking information,-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Leaking-- SEKULOW: -- which is used to be an ongoing scenario. And yet, they're still -- Bruce Ohr is still having conversations with him. And you've seen the most recent pieces that have been posted by John Solomon and others. I mean, the fact of the matter is that when you look at this in its totality of circumstances, Sean, it boggles the mind. That this is -- this is not a regular investigation, this is irregular. I said the corruption at the outset of this has just been unprecedented. And I think the American people are saying that for what it is. HANNITY: All right. When we come back, Jesse and Jessica on Rosie O'Donnell's unhinged comments and more, as we continue. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Live from America's news headquarters. I'm Ed Henry again in Washington. We have a major story breaking in Ohio, and we continue to keep a very close eye on the special election. In the Columbus area of Ohio it pits Republican Troy Balderson against Danny O'Connor, a neck and neck race. We knew it was going to be close for this U.S. House seat long held by the Republicans, it's even closer than we thought. The latest numbers show the two candidates tied basically at 49.7 percent each. With 85 percent of the votes in. But the Democrat has, well, it's just in a last moment. The Democrat had a slight edge by about 155 votes, right now with 89 percent in. Troy Balderson the Republican is up by .6 percentage points or essentially, about a thousand votes. So clearly, some of the latest votes coming in are from a county that favors Republicans. Some political analysts say that this will be a test obviously of the president's co-tail, he was there this weekend. Back to Sean. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROSIE O'DONNELL, COMEDIAN: We are so thrilled to finally be here at the Kremlin annex and were' going to keep coming back until he's out. Let the president know, in no uncertain terms that we are alive, awake, and we are awoke. We are not going away. (APPLAUSE) O'DONNELL: Good silent people are the wind behind evil. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Rosie O'Donnell protest outside the White House last night. The president wasn't there. Joining us now, it's his world we live in it. He actually has two shows, it's ridiculous. It's Jesse and Brian Kilmeade on TV 24/7. Anyway, Watters World co-host of the hit show The Five, Jesse Watters, and Fox News contributor Jessica Tarlov who's-- JESSICA TARLOV, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: You can't, not yet. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I didn't say -- I said who's world is it going to-- JESSE WATTERS, FOX NEWS CO-HOST: I think it's a foregone conclusion. HANNITY: Listen, you know what? (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Unfortunately I think that's-- HANNITY: I'm going to surprise you. You can have Rosie, you can have Maxine Waters, you can have all the people screaming for impeachment. What was the name of the nut roots thing that they had? WATTERS: Yes, nut roots nation. HANNITY: Nut roots nation. And they had-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: I don't even know what that was. HANNITY: Don't run from the word socialist. If you do, we are not supporting you. I'm all in favor. Nancy Pelosi, too, supporting all of them. TARLOV: You've named a very diverse list of characters there, I would separate out the sitting congresswoman from Rosie O'Donnell, first of all. HANNITY: No, no, listen. Maxine-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Whoever will be. I think some people I'll keep. And some people-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Maxine, Nancy Pelosi. WATTERS: Yes, you know, you keep the Hollywood, we'll keep the heartland, how's that? TARLOV: You guys would love it -- you would love it if Hollywood had any interest in you. When they do you only got Scott Baio, Ted Nugent, and Roseanne Barr. TARLOV: You know, the only celebrity Trump needs is Trump. He's got more talent than any of these people, he fills up huge stadiums, hit TV shows, his apartment is much bigger than any of their-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: I think people say that he came from that, right. His apartment is bigger? TARLOV: The only celebrity that's actually moving the needle is Kanye, and he is moving it for Trump. I think black support for the president doubled. TARLOV: Don't say that. WATTERS: It went from 15 to 29. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: No, no, no. From eight to 29. WATTERS: Eight to 29. TARLOV: I got to -- 15 to 29. HANNITY: By the way, it's the lowest disparity in terms of job percentage ever, and this came out in Bloomberg today. Huge news in terms when you break it down demographically with African-Americans and others. This is great news for the minority's community. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: It is great news, and the economy, yes. HANNITY: Thank you. Go ahead and look into the camera and say, thank you, Donald. Thank you, President Trump. TARLOV: Thank you, Donald, but thank you, Barack, more. WATTERS: Barack Obama. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Where do that (Inaudible) star put it in-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: But you can say that Trump is going to crash the economy? TARLOV: Actually I did-- WATTERS: So then when the economy does well you-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: I ran away from that polls program article. No, there were great circumstances that he had inherited and he had done a good job working with what he got to begin with, and we'll see what happens. The tariffs are hurting a lot-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And by the way, he got 13 million more Americans on food stamps, eight million in poverty, worse recovery-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Fifteen million insured, 12 million new jobs. HANNITY: Excuse me, yes, that Obamacare is working out so well. TARLOV: Well, it's the number one issue in the country and Democrats are winning on it everywhere. WATTERS: Where have the Democrats won? TARLOV: What, New Jersey, Virginia. (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: You guys are so corrupt in power than 1930s cult. TARLOV: That's absolutely not true. WATTERS: Yes. You guys have had less power since the 1930. TARLOV: Inaccurate. HANNITY: Guess who's world it is today. TARLOV: Whatever? WATTERS: What do you mean whatever? TARLOV: I mean, like, whatever at this point. And I think I did-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What do you mean whatever at this point? Guess who's world it is. TARLOV: Well-- HANNITY: Who do you think won tonight? TARLOV: It was total hyperbole, first of all. HANNITY: Who do you think won? TARLOV: I came here with the facts. I listed the celebrities that you have. Did I mentioned "Duck Dynasty"-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Excuse me. Ready? I've got a winner. WATTERS: You had Jim Carrey, by the way. TARLOV: He draws a beautiful picture. WATTERS: You think that's beautiful? Well, she lost hard. HANNITY: It's his world. TARLOV: All right. HANNITY: You are living in it. Go ahead and say goodbye. TARLOV: Goodbye. HANNITY: All right. When we come back, a really touching video of an American hero, that's next. HANNITY: All right. So in Massachusetts police officer made his final radio call after over 30 years on the job but he got a surprise when he heard a familiar voice on the other end of the radio. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everyone I've served with and to my boys. Time to go home. Just it's time to go home. Thank you. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On this day, after 32 and a half years of service, my father, Southbridge Officer Duane Ledoux is retiring and has given his final code five. It is my honor to acknowledge this code 5, to set free a man who has sacrificed so much of his time for all of us, so that he made spend the rest of his life discovering new craft beer, exploring his beautiful country. And most important of all, chasing glory. Officer Ledoux, batch number 1041. Dad, you are officially code 5. Love you. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: His son calls after 30 years. Thank you for your service. All the cops every day put their lives on the line for us. All right. That's all the time we have left this evening. As always, thank you for being with us. We will always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. There she is, Laura Ingraham, take it away. Load-Date: August 8, 2018 End of Document Anti-Trump Media on Full Display; President Trump Reinstates Sanctions on Iran; Day Five of Paul Manafort Trial; Report Says DOJ is Refusing to Preserve Work-Related E-mails from Former FBI Director Jim Comey's Private Accounts but House Committee Chairman Devin Nunes Said They are Doing Everything to Get the Information that They Needed; The List of Conservatives and Trump Supporters Who Experienced Being Harassed by the Left-Leaning Crowd Just Keep on Growing as Another Two is Added to that List; Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens Were Heckled by a Group of People While They Were Having a Breakfast at a Coffee Restaurant; Greg Gutfeld of THE FIVE Wrote a Book about His Rants that Were Never Heard Before Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 6, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7506 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Gregg Jarrett, Sebastian Gorka, Ed Henry, Greg Gutfeld Guests: Devin Nunes, Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: I got a question. So, you host three hours this morning, then a three-hour radio show, then you host "THE FIVE". Now, you are doing the 8:00 show and you are supposed to be back in six hours. If you are late tomorrow, I am so busting you on the air tomorrow night. BRIAN KILMEADE, FOX NEWS HOST: Sean, I was going to say, can I sleep over your mansion because I don't want to drive all the way home because I got to get here on time. HANNITY: Oh, I live an hour -- I live further than you do! KILMEADE: That's right. HANNITY: All right. Good job, good to see you, Brian. KILMEADE: All right. Good to see you, Sean. Good luck. HANNITY: And welcome to -- good luck, I need it. Welcome to HANNITY. We've been telling you now how the media lies on a daily basis about all things Trump and by the way, again, again. Her mainstream corrupt, destroy-Trump media caught red handed this time pushing for phony moral outrage, again, caught lying to you, the American people. Now, this weekend, they actually repackaged an old story, really old, over a year old about Donald Trump Jr.'s 2016 meeting with a Russian lawyer in Trump Tower. They literally this week and try to pass it off as a major new scandal. By the way, in moments, we are going to prove it to you. We'll call out the fake crisis peddlers that are the so-called news media in his country. And by the way on the left, they all seemingly want this president to fail -- that's sad -- at all costs because they want Democrats back in power. Also, we have more information surrounding "The New York Times'" newest hire, so-called journalist, so-called paper of record, long history of making despicable, disgusting comments, racist comments against people because of race, men, oh, and F the police. We'll explain. And also, we have one more shocking example of conservatives now being targeted by far left agitators and we'll address the situation out of Chicago, 71 people shot this weekend alone, 12 dead and dozens more fighting for their lives. Rahm, where the hell are you? Obama, you had eight years, why did you not fix this? And, finally, the U.S. reissued very tough sanctions finally against the regime in Iran. It is the latest important move by the president and his strategy, it's called peace through strength, and it works. All right. We've got a lot to get into tonight. Our breaking news, opening monologue begins now. So, in just a little over a year and a half, Donald Trump has got our economy revving up. It's now booming. The U.S. is more secure, the president's policy thankfully for the sake of the people in this country are working, but the left, Democrats, the mainstream destroy-Trump media, they could care less. Instead, they all seemingly, because they want power back in the hands of Nancy Pelosi and company, want the president to fail. Well, if he fails, we fail. And they have abused their trust with you, the American people. In fact, the president's success is sending them over the edge. Now, that's why they push these phony moral outrage, feign outrage every second of every minute of every day of every week of every month of every year now and of course it's kind of hard to stir up a new crisis every single day, so this weekend -- well, they kind of turned their bag of tricks and said we don't have any more bad news, let's make it up and they just recycle, literally recycled start to finish, a story that is more than a year old. Now, the fake outrage centered around this recent tweet from the president. Quote: fake news reporting a complete fabrication and I'm concerned about the meeting that my wonderful son Don Jr. had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, which is totally legal and done every day, all the time in politics and it went nowhere. I didn't know about it. Now, we all know that we from the president is not in any way shape, matter or form anything different than what he said over a year ago. It's not a new stunning admission. Literally, we have known about the political nature of, quote, the Trump Tower meeting for over a year. It ended up being a meeting about adoption. We know Donald Trump Jr. was told, oh, they might have information on Hillary. In fact, President Trump tweeted as much way back over a year ago, July 2017, if any of these sheep in the media would ever do any work, they are lazy, they are overpaid. Most politicians, he tweeted over a year ago, would have gone to a meeting like the one Don Jr. attended in order to get info on an opponent. That's politics. And in September of 2017, "The New York Times" reporting "Donald Trump Jr. told Senate investigators that he set up a June 2016 meeting with a Russian lawyer because he was intrigued that she might have damaging information about Hillary Clinton. And sadly, in an effort to malign President Trump, well, your friends -- well, not really -- in the mainstream media, they forgot even their own reporting, their own reporting. That's how bad they are. That's how desperate they are to get the Democrats back in power in 92 days. For example, one "New York Times" correspondent tweeted: What an astonishing, brazen admission after more than a year of denials by the president and his staff. "Huffington Post", they ran with the headline, quote: Trump finally admits his campaign colluded with Russia at Trump Tower meeting. "The A.P." reports, quote: Trump appears to change story on meeting with Russian lawyer. Naturally, the feigned moral outrage of the day was even worse on your fake, phony networks and so-called news competitors of hours. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everything you heard from every White House representative there was a lie. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not only was it a conspiracy to defraud. He's aiding and abetting, and the undermining in interesting sorts of ways of our democratic -- of our democratic society. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our reporting, despite what the president tweeted in response to it, very much is that he's worried about Don Jr. He has expressed that worry to the people that he's been talking to on the phone. He's been privately brooding over this. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He says he knew about the meeting, that almost certainly means Donald Jr. lied in front of Congress and I think that would almost certainly mean that Donald Jr. would get indicted. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On a random Sunday morning tweet does it, an admission of lying and something that starts to get the dictionary if not legal definition of collusion. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's starting -- it's like as if it's starting -- it continues to make your hair her trying to follow it all. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Then there is the next level, which is Michael Cohen says, well, the president knew. So, the president says, I didn't know. Does that add another level to the conspiracy? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: It's like a competition. Dumb, dumber, dumbest, they're all in the same category. This treatment by this media to this president, duly elected by you, the American people, is beyond disgusting. And meanwhile, you have known leaker and liar, Congressman Adam shiftless Schiff, joining his friends in the mainstream media -- oh, we got a great tape we're going to play for you in a second -- also weighing in with fake feigned moral outrage of his own. By the way, he got nailed on CBS. He doesn't have any evidence, none. Eighteen months in, none, zero, zip. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TV HOST: Can you agree that there has been no evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy that has been presented thus far between the Trump campaign and Russia? REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: No, I don't agree with that at all. I think there's plenty of evidence of collusion or conspiracy in plain sight. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Where is it? We've been looking for a long time. We do have evidence of collusion, though. Russia collusion in plain sight. All right. Let's look at Adam shiftless Schiff. He could easily be talking about himself. Remember when he tried to dig up dirt on President Trump from his own Russian sources? It turns out he was being pranked by a Russian radio personality. He thought he was talking with the Russians. A conspiracy, collusion with the Russians and we actually, Mr. Mueller, we have evidence. Listen to this. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) SCHIFF: He was in Moscow in November 2013. He met with a journalist. RUSSIAN PRANKSTER: Well, she's a poor journalist. But anyway, she became famous because of Putin is her godfather. SCHIFF: OK, Putin's godfather. OK. RUSSIAN PRANKSTER: She is also known as a person who provided girls for escort for oligarchs and she met with Trump and she brought him a Russian girl celebrities, Olga Buzova, who also known as a person with a strange reputation. SCHIFF: Olga, and how do you spell her name? RUSSIAN PRANKSTER: Olga Buzova. SCHIFF: And what's the nature of the kompromat? RUSSIAN PRANKSTER: Well, there were pictures of naked Trump. SCHIFF: So, Putin was made aware of the availability of the compromising material? RUSSIAN PRANKSTER: Yes, of course. SCHIFF: Thank you very much. We will be back in touch with you through our staff to make arrangements to obtain these materials for our committee and for the FBI. And I appreciate you reaching out to us. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Collusion, conspiracy, Russians, tape, proof. Where is the media outrage over the attempt to collude and conspire with Russia? Or is it only a crime if a Republican is trying to dig up political dirt and op research on an opponent? This time, we have the tape of the whole thing. Imagine if we had a tape of the meeting in Trump Tower. That was about Russian adoption. As you can see how corrupt your media is and just so happy to rehash an old phony scandal, literally a dead-end meeting about adoption with a Russian attorney who happened to meet with Fusion GPS before and after the meeting, sidebar, but couldn't care less about -- oh, we have another case of collusion with evidence. The Clinton campaign funneling money through a law firm, the DNC funneling money through a law firm to hire a -- oh, a foreign spy. Oh, to dig up what came out to be Russian lies, propaganda, debunked lies about President Trump and then fed it to you, the American people to get -- to steal an election. Oh, and it became the bulk of the information in a FISA warrant that was used four times to spy on an American citizen as part of the opposition party campaign in an election year. Now, we are talking about Christopher Steele, Hillary Clinton's dirty dossier with Russian lies, bought and paid for by the Clintons, the Democrats, to purposely lie to you, the American people. Why? Because they didn't care what they said, how many lies they told because they wanted to steal an election and they still lost with totally absurd, untrue claims from Russia like this one. Trump's -- well, perverted conduct in Moscow included hiring the presidential suite in the Ritz-Carlton Hotel where he knew president, Mrs. Obama had stayed on one of their official trips to Russia and defiling the bed where they had slept by employing a number of prostitutes to perform golden showers. In other words, urinating on the bed and a show in front of him? OK, in an interrogatory in Great Britain when a threat of perjury was put to Christopher Steele, he did say the following. Oh, that was just raw intelligence. I don't know if that's true at all, 50/50. Where's the media outrage? That was used to get a warrant to spy on Americans. Where's the outrage against the Clinton campaign? Literally paying for lies to lie to you, the American people. Literally, to rig an election that obviously used paid for Russian lies. That sounds like collusion and a conspiracy to me and still the media wonders why the American people don't trust them. They wonder why you shout "you suck". Do you know why? Because they do suck. They have a political agenda. They are politically driven. They hate this president and at all costs have been trying, continue to try to destroy him, his kids, his sons, his daughter, his 12-year-old kid, his wife and literally anybody that's friends with them. Do any of these people in the media that lied again and got caught again, do they ever care how much better off this country is doing? Fourteen states record low unemployment. Record low unemployment, Hispanic Americans, African-Americans, Asian-Americans. Oh, and our brave vets that are out now getting in the workplace. Millions fewer on food stamps, 4 million new jobs, more manufacturing jobs that Obama told us was never coming back. Now, tonight, also, we have another blow to their credibility, this one comes to us here of "The New York Times." Right there, meet the newest member of the newspaper's editorial board, her name is Sarah Jeong. Now, for years, she tweeted dozens of statements about race and white people. She used a hashtag #cancelwhitepeople. She openly wondered if white people were only fit to live underground like groveling goblins. She tweeted that she gets, quote, joy out of being cruel to old white men. She also trashed all men, oh, and the police, frequently writing "F the police". And, of course, she has also expressed her hatred for President Trump, shocking, she works at "The New York Times." Quote, I was equating Trump to Hitler before it was cool. There are literally dozens of other racist, sexist, generally offensive tweets, "The New York Times" doesn't care. They know about this, they still hired her and are rigorously now defending their decision to hire her. Now, I know some of you will be angry. On this program, we never call for boycotts, we never say that people should be fired or lose their jobs. I'm not going to start tonight. I'm going to be consistent because it's always conservatives that they really want fired. But "The New York Times," the paper of record? This is disgusting beyond words. Now, you, the American people, the American consumers, you always have the power not to read it, to turn the dial, not read the newspaper or whatever else they put out, but this hire reveals yet another example of what is a blatant, corrupt double standard in the destroy-Trump media. "The New York Times" frequently peddles identity politics. They totally gloss over stories in some cases if it doesn't fit their political agenda. They always want to target the president, and target conservatives and target Republicans. Where were all of these groups that are literally paid millions and millions and millions of dollars a year to monitor conservatives on talk radio, Rush, Mark, me, and Laura, anybody on the FOX News channel that gives opinion, labeled opinion, for boycotts and firings? They are silent tonight because they are hypocrites, too. Now, to prove this point a friend of this program, conservative activist Candace Owens. She equated verbatim the exact same tweets from "The New York Times" new hire but switched out the word white for another race. She was promptly banned from Twitter, and after much outcry her account was reinstated. They figured out that she was making a point and Twitter apologized for, quote, the error. And it brings us to our next story that involves yet another scary example of the left's so-called resistance to Trump allies all over the country. The very person who was banned and unbanned from Twitter, Candace Owens, her colleague, Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk, he's actually just eating breakfast in Philadelphia kind of like Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen. Oh, let's see, and Sarah Sanders. Then, an angry mob of far left protesters literally ran them out of the restaurant and needed police assistance. Watch this. (VIDEO CLIP PLAYS) HANNITY: They were assaulted. They will both join us later in the program tonight for an exclusive interview and we'll show you everything that went down. The left-wing intolerance is so out of control and I have a warning, it's only going to get worse as the most important midterms in our lifetime and 92 days gets closer and closer. And meanwhile, one local Democrat in Chicago is putting politics aside, desperately, rightly trying to rescue his city for what has been a wave of violence that has been devastating his hometown since Obama began his presidency. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DEMOCRATIC ILLINOIS STATE REPRESENTATIVE: I represent a community on the west side at the government allows drugs and gangs to dominate those communities where senior citizens and children are held hostage. Held hostage in her home, hostage in their community and they can't enjoy the liberties that are afforded to them by everyone else, and that's unacceptable. And we need the president's help in Chicago. The mayor, he must take away the thought that Chicago is a Trump- free zone. Taxpayers deserve to have the president come in and bring resources to the community. We need to make sure that the billions of dollars that we send to Washington comes back and the mayor should be working closely with Trump. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: This has to be a tipping point. Our national treasure, our children -- over 70 shot, 12 killed, dozens of others fighting for their lives? A city with a gang violence epidemic that seems never ending? Where's Rahm Rahmbo dead fish? He can't curtail violent crime? If he can't do it, step aside, or at the very least ask for help from the president, talk to Rudy Giuliani. He fixed New York City. The lives of our children are at stake here. Law-abiding citizens are held hostage and getting killed. We've got to stop it. I do hope the president sees what's happening and is able to step in and help the city of Chicago and help save some lives. We'll monitor that and give you updates as the situation unfolds. But first, we got to return to the Middle East, the president's strategy of peace through strength is in full swing. Iran is now being held accountable, thankfully. Now, the president today announcing that the tough, free nuclear deal sanctions finally will be reinstated against this rogue regime that chants "death to America". Now, these sanctions effectively prevent many national companies from conducting business with Iran and is not likely to be lifted unless the mullahs of Iran halt their aggressive hostile actions, funding proxy wars and being the number one funding country of global terrorism and, of course, to end their pursuit of nuclear weapons and the constant threats to the United States into Israel. All right. A lot of news tonight. We still have a lot to get to. Joining us now with reaction, the author of the number one "New York Times" best seller, "The Russian Hoax", and "The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump," FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett and the author of "Why We Fight", FOX News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka. Dr. Gorka, let me start with you, let's start with the big latest lie of the media. They all went with it, they never did their research and they all basically like sheep follow each other. DR. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: It's remarkable, Sean. It shows you how they have nothing. Let's be very clear, hopefully, they are taking notes. There is no crime to meet with a foreign national to obtain opposition research, especially when it turns out that that individual took that meeting under false pretenses. However, it is a crime, it is a crime, to engage somebody at the cost of millions of dollars who is not a foreign registered agent but at the same time as a former intelligence officer, that's Christopher Steele, and to use his Russian propaganda material as the grounds for a surveillance warrant in a FISA court. Gregg can give you all the chapters, all the code, but that is a crime. For the last 430 days, we have had zero evidence, Sean, connecting the president to Russia and I'm going to say now on the record, they will never find any because there isn't any. HANNITY: Well, they haven't and the fact is I played the tape of Adam shiftless Schiff. It's very hard to say on TV, it's a very risky move. But in all seriousness, Gregg, OK, he's talking to a Russian. He's getting op research that he hopes will kill off the president politically, and then we got Hillary's phony dossier. The media ignores it all, Gregg. This is beyond corrupt and they will destroy the president and his family in the process with no compunction whatsoever. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: There is no fairness and equivalency. I was amazed today when "The New York Times" in their front page story declared without any evidence, without citing any statute, that it was illegal, that Trump Tower meeting. Well, I'll cite the law. The Federal Campaign Election Act specifically says a foreign national may volunteer services, attend meetings and provide information. It is not and never has been considered a thing of value under our election laws. What is a thing of value is paying a foreigner, as Hillary Clinton did, for information on Donald Trump. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: By the way, didn't we -- didn't we learn the FBI also paid him which we suspected? Now we know? JARRETT: That's right. And the payment by Hillary establishes it as a thing of value, making it illegal. And yes, as we learned last Friday, Judicial Watch through a lawsuit obtained documents -- HANNITY: Eleven payments. JARRETT: -- from the Department of Justice and the FBI which shows that Christopher Steele was not only on the payroll of Hillary Clinton, but for seven months before the Trump-Russia case was officially launched, he was on the FBI's payroll receiving 11 payments. HANNITY: Last word, Dr. Gorka. GORKA: And, Sean, you mentioned one thing that needs to be repeated, Veselnitskaya, this private lawyer was briefed by Fusion GPS before and after the meeting in Trump Tower. So, this could have been a set up from the get-go. HANNITY: All right. Thank you both. Important. A live report -- we have other breaking news, the Manafort trial and more, and House Intelligence Committee Chair Devin Nunes, and, yes, Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk. Stay right there. HANNITY: All right. Today, day five of the trial of the century. Paul Manafort's 2005 tax case that has nothing to do with Russia, nothing to do with collusion, nothing to do with the campaign, nothing to do with Donald Trump, and there is special counsel Robert Mueller's star witness. Rick Gates took to the stand to testify against Paul Manafort. The only problem is he admits to being a criminal. He admits to lying, stealing, anything else? Live from the White House, where are you tonight? Yes, you're outside the White House. ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes. HANNITY: Our Ed Henry, you are there alone because the president is not there I don't think. HENRY: That's right, Sean. He's in New Jersey but you are right that this was kind of a tough day for special counsel Robert Mueller and his team in court today, because remember, Judge T.S. Ellis back in May had said the special counsel he believed really didn't care about Paul Manafort and the bank fraud and tax evasion charges, that instead he just wanted to get the president, try to get dirt from Manafort to either impeach or prosecute the president. Well, Judge Ellis at it again late today, lashing out at one of Mueller's prosecutors, Greg Andres, for going on and on about Manafort's connection to Ukrainian politicians that have nothing to do with the president or the crux of the bank fraud and tax charges against Manafort. Judge Ellis growing furious when Andres would not look up at the judge while he was speaking. The prosecutor claiming he was looking at documents. The judge declared, quote: Look at me, don't look down. You look down as if to say that's B.S. I'm up here. So, the judge not happy. Interesting because Ellis warned back in may that what the special counsel might be trying to do is not just get Manafort to sing, but get him to compose, meaning come up -- either Manafort or other witnesses come up with stuff that may or may not be true, as you mentioned Gates -- Rick Gates, the star witness testifying today. He admitted to crimes that he committed. Let's remember that he is somebody who has admitted to lying to federal investigators, so he has a credibility question. And again, none of this gets at alleged Russian collusion. A new frenzy that was whipped up this weekend because of that tweet you mentioned at the top of the show, the president saying that the focus of that Trump Tower meeting in the summer of 2016 was not about Russian adoption, it was about getting dirt on Hillary Clinton. The problem is the president already mentioned that at a news conference last summer with the French president -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And Don Jr. mentioned it when he testified and that was reported. Let me ask you a questions -- so he admitted to lying. He admitted to embezzling. HENRY: Rick Gates, yes. HANNITY: Is he -- did he admit -- what's the deal? Does he get out of jail free card just to say whatever he wants to say against his partner and even though he did horrible things? HENRY: Remember, he pled guilty to lying to federal investigators. So, that's going to be a big problem for him when there's cross examination for Manafort's side, which is which story are we to believe? You told federal investigators one thing, now you're telling the court a whole another thing. So his credibility-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Did he get a deal? HENRY: Yes, absolutely. That's what-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He got a deal. Is that the same as like paying somebody for testimony if you say this we'll give you no jail time or something? HENRY: Yes. He's already gotten a deal. He already pled and he's cooperating with the special counsel, that's why he is their, quote, unquote, "star witness." The question is going to be whether his credibility is believed. HANNITY: Yes. HENRY: And again, nothing that Rick Gates is saying gets out to where this investigation started, which was collusion. It's about bank fraud, tax charges. HANNITY: How is that -- well, thank you, I won't drag you into my commentary, Ed Henry, thank you. HENRY: Thank you. HANNITY: How is that different from Sammy the Bull? Sammy the Bull admits, they know he killed 19 people. Nineteen. No jail time. Witness protection program, a new house and a new life. Just tell us what -- is the murderer not going to say whatever you want? This is a process that is wrong. We will deal with this in the future. Also today, Daily Caller our own Sara Carter reporting the DOJ is refusing to preserve work-related e-mails from the former FBI director Jim Comey's private accounts. I wonder if they do that for you or me. Now we reached out to the DOJ for comment, they declined. Here with more reaction, House intelligence committee chairman California Congressman Devin Nunes, who frankly deserves the Medal of Freedom for really showing sadly the biggest abuse of power and corruption scandal. Let's just get your general take on everything, where we are and what is important now. REP. DEVIN NUNES (R), CALIFORNIA: Thank you, Sean, and thanks for having me on again. Really where we are at, a lot of people ask what's left? We still have information that we need from the Department of Justice. However, I will say as of tonight we are getting closer and closer to having the information that we need. HANNITY: Tell us why. NUNES: One of the big issues that -- they are provided -- they have allowed -- all the issues that were in our subpoena they have now -- either we've been able to review, our investigators have been able to review, or they have been delivered to the committee in one form or fashion or another. So let's put that aside, there is still more that has to be done and we're of course, months and months late. So where are we? We talked about this last week. We have at least 20 pages of the FISA that was -- the FISA warrant that went after Carter Page. We have about 20 pages that the House republicans have asked several months ago for the president and his office to declassify. We need that declassified. Senator Grassley secondly asked for the Bruce Ohr 302. Bruce Ohr is going to become more and more important in this investigation. I think people to make close attention to it. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Explain the 302. Where they altered? Explain the 302, which is an an official report. Where they altered? NUNES: So the FBI interviewed Bruce Ohr at least a dozen times and put together reports. So once they fired Steele, which at that point they should've not been meeting with him anymore but what they had is they had Bruce Ohr, whose wife Nellie Ohr was working for Fusion GPS was going to meet and still get the information for Christopher Steele as they were trying to verify this unverified dossier or the Clinton dirt that was used to get the FISA warrant. So that's number two. Number three, there is exculpatory evidence that we have --that we have seen of classified documents that need to be declassified. These were not-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Exculpatory in nature in what way? I don't mean to press you. Exculpatory in what way? NUNES: In that the Carter Page FISA when those -- the judges should have been presented with this exculpatory evidence that the FBI and DOJ had. So those are the three areas that we have left in terms of what we need declassified. Second issue-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I've heard rumors of it that on top of that a tape and potentially intel servers involvement in all of this? Is there any truth to that? NUNES: Well, that I think it's to the origins of the investigation, which we still are unclear on, on whether or not -- we know that the Australian diplomat that was serving in London -- we were told that it was FVEY's intelligence that was used to go after Papadopoulos. What we discovered in our investigation is there was no FVEYs intelligence, and in fact, down our story the Australian diplomat doesn't even make any sense. So we're still trying to follow up on that. But in the big picture here, we need these documents declassified. That has to get done on what we just talked about. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We thought there was a report-- NUNES: Secondly, we have about-- HANNITY: -- polls vary that that might happen. I'm running out of time and I want to get this in. This is really important. I just played the tape, the April 2017 tape of your colleague, shifter Schiff -- sorry -- Adam Schiff -- I won't add my commentary to your comments, and it sounds like he's colluding with Russians for dirt on Donald Trump. And wasn't the phony dossier that Hillary and the DNC paid for, wasn't that full of Russian lies to, and it was used to misinform the American people to get a FISA warrant as your memo pointed out, the Grassley-Graham memo pointed out, the bulk of information for the FISA? NUNES: Yes. Well, look, if they would have been up to the Democrats, they were in on this from the beginning, so was the media, Sean. The media in 2016 had all this information too, so they know that this information was being generated by the Clinton campaign. You had DOJ, FBI, all of those cast of characters that were meeting regularly with Christopher Steele, you had Bruce Ohr, the number four at the Department of Justice who I think is going to become a more and more important figure in this and a lot of the investigators and reporters should be looking closer at Bruce Ohr. HANNITY: I appreciate your time. This -- soon maybe this week. That the rumors I'm hearing. Good to see you, sir. Keep up the good work. (CROSSTALK) NUNES: Soon as we -- thanks. HANNITY: When we please come back. The left targeting conservatives continues. Despicable, disgusting. We're going to speak to victims this weekend. Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens harassed, they were having breakfast in Philadelphia. Earlier today, this tape is so bad, we'll get to that. And Greg Gutfeld straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Earlier this morning friends of this program, Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens were brutally harassed by far left protesters. They were having breakfast at a Philadelphia coffee shop. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (CROWD CHANTING) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. With us now Turning Point USA founder, Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA communications director, Candace Owens, both friends of the show. Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen, Sarah Sanders, Melania Trump, Ivanka Trump, a 12-year-old kid, Barron Trump, a 4-year-old granddaughter, Chloe Trump. This is, you know, the media talks about them because they say you suck and they weren't -- this was you actually got physically assaulted. CHARLIE KIRK, FOUNDER, TURNING POINT USA: Correct. Water thrown on myself, they threw an egg at me. And here's the interesting part, Candace and I were just minding our own business. We were just having, you know, a quiet breakfast and they mobilized within 20 or 30 minutes, at least 50 of them came into the restaurant and started calling Candace a Nazi, which I can't quite figure how they would come to that conclusion. HANNITY: There were racial comments made too, right? CANDACE OWENS, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, TURNING POINT USA: Absolutely. HANNITY: What do they said? Tell everyone. OWENS: Not just to me. The police officers, this was a primarily black police force in Philadelphia. There was only one white police officer, the rest were black and Hispanic, they called us race traders, they were staying at the police and they were that all police are racist despite the fight that this was an all-white group, anti-fa facing an all- black police force and myself telling us essentially that we have to go. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I did notice that you both kept your cool and you stayed out. Not going to go back in. I would probably if I was there, I would have stayed out because I'm a lunatic but I would have advised you guys to go inside. KIRK: Well, so that-- HANNITY: But you felt it was important not to. KIRK: Well, they drove us out of the restaurant and Candace and I said, you know what, let's just stand here for a couple minutes and show them that we are not going to back down. Very peacefully we are not going to retaliate if things get thrown at us. Little that we know we actually have stuff thrown at us. But look, won't want to play the victim card here, that's what the left does all the time. Instead-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Not the victim card, but this-- KIRK: I think it's a warning. This is what's called on by Maxine Waters. OWENS: This is-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Wait a minute. Get in their face; get in their face in grocery stores, in the mall, if I remember correctly. OWENS: In restaurants she said. HANNITY: In restaurants. OWENS: Yes. So this is Maxine Waters' America. And we thought it was an important moment to show America exactly what we are fighting because not many people understand this is real. They have grown increasingly violent because they understand that they are losing. They are losing a lot of turf. HANNITY: Is this -- when I first met you I did say what Charlie said, he thinks he discovered you. All right. You didn't discover, she was a star in the making. I did say I saw a great future for both of you, to be fair. Has it been -- has there been a lot of this? OWENS: When they are expecting us, yes. If we are on campus is of course, if we are going to give a talk anywhere of course but this was unusual because we weren't at a Trump rally, we weren't on a campus, we were simply having coffee in a coffee shop. HANNITY: So sad. OWENS: Yes. HANNITY: Sarah Sanders kids thrown out of a restaurant. You know, I don't talk about it. I know the left -- I said last week I would be the first to jump in if I'm at an event and anybody laid a hand on even Jim Acosta I would throw -- I train an hour and a half a day mixed martial arts. I fight and it's real fighting, and I would defend anybody, against physical violence but it's not the same if you are using words. Here they actually chased you out of the restaurant and you are physically really assaulted. KIRK: That's correct. And we made the decision not to press charges because we are not going to try to do with the left would do and try to create martyrs so on and so forth. Instead, what we want to do is focus on as a warning sign to the American people that if the Democrats take back Congress, you are going to be electing these radicals in charge of the committee. HANNITY: And those are the people that want to impeach the president. KIRK: That's correct. HANNITY: They want open borders, eliminate ICE, keep Obamacare. They want their crumbs back and they want these investigations to stop. OWENS: That's exactly right. And they had a bullhorn and they were very close to my face screaming in my ear. Those reminiscent of the Civil Rights era. This is what you would expect in the Civil Rights era if a black woman was dying at a restaurant. HANNITY: You know, you've been through a lot though, this is not te first time it seems that race comes up a lot because you happen to be conservative and you happen to be an African-American. OWENS: That's correct. HANNITY: This is every -- Deneen Borelli's book, remember I mentioned it to you. You know, read it Google my name and the most horrific names come up against her. OWENS: That's correct. Liberals believe that they own blacks still. They believe that they're something proprietary about being black in this country and if you deviate from the way that they want you to think in the way that they want you to act they grow violent. HANNITY: And it's changing. Did you see the poll, Rasmussen? OWENS: I did. HANNITY: You have predicted this to me. OWENS: I did. I said there's going to be a major black exit from the Democratic Party because we are starting to figure it out, we're looking at the history, which they have wiped and we are realizing that the Democratic Party was always racist. HANNITY: Record low unemployment, African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Asian-American 14 states. That's good for our fellow citizens. KIRK: All Americans. HANNITY: And you what else? It ought to be what happened in Chicago, just to dovetail. If we don't declare this a national emergency that literally our American families being gunned down in the streets and nobody's doing anything to help our national treasure. OWENS: Because they are not illegal aliens. If these were illegal alien children that were gunned down, illegal aliens, children that were separated because they lost their fathers-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Think of the outrage over that-- OWENS: -- they would be outraged. HANNITY: Seventy one. But either one, nobody wants separation of children and Donald Trump fix that. OWENS: Correct. HANNITY: But 71 people shot in the weekend and it's on over the Obama years. (CROSSTALK) KIRK: With the strictest gun laws in America. HANNITY: What? KIRK: With the strictest gun laws in America. OWENS: No celebrities came out talking about this whatsoever and it's because these were Americans. HANNITY: You both are very brave and courageous. Thank you both for being here. OWENS: Thank you for having us. KIRK: Thank you, Sean. HANNITY: Greg Gutfeld, he's got a lot to say, next. HANNITY: All right. Here now is a good friend of the program, author of the brand-new book, it's called "The Gutfeld Monologues: Classic Rants from The Five" the host, Greg Gutfeld, and of course the hit show The Five. You know, when I first met you -- you can shake my hand. GREG GUTFELD, FOX NEWS CO-HOST: I didn't know if you're going to-- HANNITY: Don't start. GUTFELD: Yes, I know. I can't. HANNITY: You know when I first met you, you are like a little quirky. GUTFELD: Yes. HANNITY: Then I realized how funny you are. You have a comedic mind. GUTFELD: Yes. I was -- but I didn't come from comedy. I was a magazine editor. I've been editing (Inaudible) and maxim. So I don't think anybody expected-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You edited Maxim? GUTFELD: Yes, in England. Yes. HANNITY: OK. GUTFELD: It didn't last very long but I still did it. And that stuff magazine -- so I don't think people expected that I was either political or that I had any other thoughts other than like primitive male instincts and that I was weird, and I am. I'm happy to be weird. HANNITY: But you did RedEye and the show kicked fast. GUTFELD: Yes. At 3 a.m. I was getting huge ratings in morning show-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I know. GUTFELD: -- whatever that is. HANNITY: Whatever that is. GUTFELD: Yes. HANNITY: Yes. Liberals go. GUTFELD: Yes. HANNITY: And then I was -- from day one I was always a fan of The Five, I thought the show was genius. GUTFELD: Yes. HANNITY: And then the ratings were astronomical. GUTFELD: Yes. HANNITY: You don't have in this business a hit show on day one. You guys had a hit show on day one. GUTFELD: Yes. It was natural chemistry and it was this, it was an improvisational conversation. Where everybody knew when somebody else was going to talk because you know the problem with cable TV-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: As may now call for overtime. GUTFELD: Yes. Every -- people start their sentence when you are in the middle of yours. But on The Five we all just said and we go, we are going to get to say what we say and we tried to relax and it's the perfect hour for television. You have a cocktail, we're on. I did a book tour on Saturday. People think they know you because they do. HANNITY: They do know you. GUTFELD: When they see you they go you are in my living room every day. You say what I want to say. That's why Fox has a huge audience. HANNITY: Right. So the monologue is a part of the show. GUTFELD: Yes. HANNITY: And I like that part of the show. You are very irreverent, you are very politically incorrect. A little unpredictable politically-- GUTFELD: Yes. HANNITY: -- but you know what, that's what makes the show so good is that, you know, you've got you, Dana, Jesse, you know, all the -- everybody has - - everyone has a different point of view. GUTFELD: Yes. HANNITY: And it's just the back and forth, this intelligent, smart, fun, funny conversation. GUTFELD: Yes. The goal -- the goal is to say something that hasn't been said already and that's a challenge because at 5 o'clock you've have already had nine or 10 hours-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Welcome to 9 o'clock. GUTFELD: Yes, exactly. And that's -- so what I try to do -- this is my secret, I pretend I'm at a bar because generally when you were at a bar-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I've been to a bar with you. GUTFELD: Yes, exactly. HANNITY: Not easy to keep up in a bar with this guy. GUTFELD: I've pulled back a little bit, nothing but red wine. But if you pretend that you are mildly drunk, which is what I do, you listen in squares in your head into actually come up with stuff that you haven't said before. HANNITY: That's the mind of a comedian. So tell us about the book, you've taken the best of the monologues. GUTFELD: Yes. And what I did which is what no one's done. If you look at this I critique my own writing so everyone of these little blue things, it's like -- it's like where I'm wrong I will say when I'm wrong, when I think I'm cliched I will say that and then I update stuff because a lot of these monologues were pre-2016, B.T., before Trump. And so I'm trying to update what happened. Interesting, there's a huge section here on terror. We don't talk about terror that much anymore, why? Because ISIS -- because you know, knock on - - knock on glass, but you know, it's changed. HANNITY: Listen, I know you had a great book tour so far, the book is in bookstores everywhere, Hannity.com, Amazon.com. Congrats on the success of the show, you are a great colleague. Great to see you. GUTFELD: Thanks, buddy. HANNITY: Thank you very much. GUTFELD: I appreciate it. HANNITY: All right. Rush Limbaugh sounds off on what the Democrats are really running on in 2018. His insight, his commentary, next. HANNITY: All right. Rush Limbaugh, 30th anniversary by the way, congratulations again. Rush made an interesting observation today. Democrats, quote, "their blue weight is not based on a single policy." Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: If the Democrats win, what are we going to get? The Democrats are basing this blue wave on one thing, Trump hatred. The resistance. They're not basing it on people's desire for Democrat policies. Now isn't that kind of flimsy? They think they live in a world where everybody now hates Trump, that's what they tell themselves. They live in a world where everybody now realizes the mistake they made voting for Trump. They live in a world where in their view everybody is embarrassed of Trump every day and wishes that they could take back their vote and will do so, but it isn't based on policy. No, it's based on Trump hatred. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All Trump hatred. All right. The show is always going to be fair and balanced. We have a lot coming up this week. Got a sneaky suspicion you are going to be tuning in. All right. Thank you for being with us. We'll always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. The news continues. Ingraham, how was your weekend? LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: It was lovely. How was yours, Sean? Load-Date: August 7, 2018 End of Document Furor Over Trump Tweet On Sessions; Manafort Trial A Media Spectacle; Trump Says Fake News Causes War; Trump Hits Back At Lebron; Trump, New York Times In War Of Words; John Kelly's Premature Obits Fox News Network MEDIA BUZZ 11:00 AM EST August 5, 2018 Sunday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8034 words Byline: Howard Kurtz, Gillian Turner Guests: Mollie Hemingway, Capri Cafaro Body HOWARD KURTZ, MEDIA BUZZ SHOW HOST, FOX NEWS: On the "Buzz Media" this Sunday, President Trump sparks a media furor by suggesting that Jeff Sessions shut down the Russia probe despite the fact that he is recused from the investigation. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: When the president of the United States says that one of his subordinate should do something and do it now, how is that just one guy's opinion? LAWRENCE O'DONNELL, HOST, MSNBC: If there was a tape of Donald Trump saying that in the White House today, it would be the smoking gun in an obstruction of justice case. But Rudy Giuliani has told him to do his obstructing in public as if he was standing on Fifth Avenue with a gun. SEAN HANNITY, TALK SHOW HOST, FOX NEWS: If you believe it, many in the media, they are now saying President Trump actually obstructed justice because he tweeted out his opposition to all that has happened with no evidence and criticizing what is a witch hunt. In other words, telling the truth. CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: The White House and his attorneys, again, they say oh no, this is just what the president thinks, it's First Amendment. He's not you. He's not me. He's the president. He has control over these probes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president tweeting out to his attorney general that he should end this travesty, the Mueller witch hunt. And then you hear the clucking little nasty voices from the left. (END VIDEOTAPE) KURTZ: And with his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort on trial for fraud, Trump brings more media attention to the case by saying he is being treated worse than Al Capone. We'll debate that and much more with Corey Lewandowski, the president's former campaign manager. A war of words erupts between the president and New York Times' publisher A.G. Sulzberger, and then with NBA superstar Lebron James. Is Trump scoring points or just committing fouls? And as the crowd screams at CNN's Jim Acosta, he accuses the president of whipping up an anti-media frenzy. Plus, with CBS Chairman Les Moonves fighting for his job after serious sexual misconduct allegations, one of his network's own stars speaks out. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEPHEN COLBERT, HOST, CBS: I like working for him. But accountability is meaningless unless it's for everybody - whether it's the leader of a network or the leader of the free world. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Stephen Colbert who is usually busy mocking Donald Trump is taking on his own boss. I'm Howard Kurtz and this is "Media Buzz." President Trump has been denouncing the Robert Mueller investigation for many months now. But this week, he caused a bit of a media explosion by ratcheting up his rhetoric with a tweet to one official who has recused himself from the Russia probe. "This is a terrible situation and Attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." Joining us now to analyze the coverage: Mollie Hemingway, senior editor at The Federalist and a Fox News contributor; Gillian Turner, a Fox News correspondent and former national security official in the last two administrations; and Capri Cafaro, Washington Examiner contributor and former Democratic Senate leader in Ohio. Mollie, even if we accept the White House's argument that the president is just offering his opinion. He is suggesting his attorney general blow off the fact that he recused himself for ethical reasons. So is the media storm around this justified? MOLLIE HEMINGWAY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR, SENIOR EDITOR, THE FEDERALIST: It's certainly good to talk about this issue but I do think we need to have media people who understand how Donald Trump speaks. It's understandable that two years ago, they didn't quite understand his rhetoric. But now after two years of seeing him speak in public, seeing his tweets, you would expect them to understand him a little bit better. He is expressing a great deal of frustration with a probe that sidelined his administration for a year and a half. And he is the only person who seems to be talking about it, where everyone else in Washington D.C. is pretending like it's OK, what's going on. Everyone else not just being politicians. But people in the media, for not holding Mueller himself accountable, they think their job is to cheer lead for him instead of to ask questions such as, what is the scope of his probe? Why has he not cared about the Hillary Clinton campaign's involvement with Russia? Why has he -- why has he not found any evidence collusion with the Trump campaign which is the thing that we were promised by the media? So we are not seeing good media coverage and we are not seeing good media understanding of how Donald Trump speaks. KURTZ: Gillian, for a president who is constantly now complaining about the witch hunt and the unfairness of the Russia probe and it's a hoax and all that, doesn't he create a tidal wave of coverage about the very story he hates every time he does one of these tweets and particularly this one involving Sessions? GILLIAN TURNER, FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIAL, CORRESPONDENT, FOX NEWS: Well, Howie, there is this old adage. I don't now if you ever heard of it, but it's something along the lines of no coverage is bad coverage, or bad coverage is better than no coverage. KURTZ: Yeah. TURNER: I think President Donald Trump is definitely an adherent to that rule. KURTZ: But he can be covered on every single subject under the sun and he keeps coming back to the Mueller alleged witch hunt. TURNER: And this is one of the things where I think the media is doing a really great job, the mainstream fake news media is doing a great job of often pointing out to the president, hey, why are you -- why do you ever tweet about anything other than the economy? Why do you ever tweet last week about anything other than 4.1 percent GDP? It seems you are derailing your own agenda. You don't need to create. You are already the most widely covered president in the history of this country. You don't actually have to create more news. HEMINGWAY: The underlying issue with the Mueller probe is one that is actually favorable to Donald Trump. So, again, we were promised that we would find treasonous collusion with Russia to steal an election. To say we haven't found that is a huge understatement. I think he likes reminding people of that. KURTZ: All right. (CROSSTALK) CAPRI CAFARO, FORMER DEMOCRATIC SENATE LEADER, CONTRIBUTOR, WASHINGTON EXAMINER: -- the media as you mentioned earlier. KURTZ: Let me just jump in -- TURNER: We have to wait for the findings release before -- KURTZ: Capri -- HEMINGWAY: -- we need to wait and yet how long -- how long do we have to have an administration be sidelined? I think he is asking very good questions and the media should be discussing -- CAFARO: It don't necessarily need to be sidelined. I mean, just because that is what the media narrative is, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't continue to do the work that they are doing. KURTZ: All right. I want to ask you this question. But first, I want to tell our viewers that I interviewed Rudy Giuliani, the president's lawyer, this week. And he told me, it was just opinion, mo presidential order. But I asked him, well, he named Sessions. And Rudy Giuliani said, was talking about the generic Justice Department. And of course, it would have to be his deputy, Rod Rosenstein, who would shout down a Mueller probe. Are the media buying the notion that these tweets are just opinion when he hasn't used tweets to announce policy? CAFARO: I think that there has been a lot of scrutiny on this. As we were talking a little bit earlier, I think that on one hand, there are some in the media that understand sort of the nuances of Donald Trump, that, you know, he does get frustrated. He takes to Twitter. He sees something, he reacts. That is not necessarily policing or meaning anything. But, because of the nature of this, because there is all of these discussions surrounding obstruction of justice and the fact that he is the president of the United States as we saw in that clip from CNN with Cuomo, that, you know, he is not you, he is not me, he is president of the United States, and what he says and when he uses his words, they matter. KURTZ: All right. We can all agree he is not you or me or anybody else. (LAUGHTER) KURTZ: So the Paul Manafort trial taking place across the river now is getting ample coverage of course given this is a former campaign chairman. But, Mollie, it's about alleged bank fraud and tax evasion and pretty much has nothing to do with Donald Trump or the campaign. HEMINGWAY: I think this is a prime example of what we were just talking about. So, everyone is interested in this trial as part of this collusion theory with Russia, but the prosecutors have said they make no plans to bring up Russia or anything related to Donald Trump as part of the trial. That should cause some pretty good questions in the media about why the special counsel is handling this, whether this guy who may or may not be guilty or shady is also the victim of political prosecution. But we are not seeing anyone actually asking any of these difficult questions of the Mueller probe. They just seem to trust it implicitly. KURTZ: But again, Gillian, the president takes to Twitter and he says, who was treated worse, Al Capone, legendary mob boss, killer, and public enemy number one, or Paul Manafort, you know, who worked for Reagan and Dole who I barely knew, and again driving attention to a trial that already was being covered, but maybe not being covered constantly. TURNER: I think that was an interesting classic Trump tweet this morning in the sense that the president wants to do a sliding scale, everything is comparative, everything is subjective kind of tweets about people that get raft up in the probe. The first thing he did when it was first announced that Mueller was -- excuse me, that Manafort was indicted was take -- he was kind of accosted by a gaggle (ph) outside of the Left Wing and he said, oh, well, what Paul Manafort has done is not nearly as bad as what other people have done like Hillary Clinton. This is the thing that he likes to -- HEMINGWAY: This is a great example. If you were actually trying to investigate collusion with Russia to steal an election, should you not be asking some questions if Hillary Clinton who secretly had a British spy get sourcing from the Kremlin to inject into the last election, weaponize it with the intelligence agency -- (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: Capri? CAFARO: If we can just go back to the Manafort trial for a minute, because it really doesn't have anything to do with Russian collusion -- KURTZ: Right., CAFARO: I think one of the things that Trump has put in his tweets is, you know, basically he is trying to get out there. There are lot of the -- basically, everything that is in this trial predates Manafort's relationship with the Trump campaign. So I think that he is trying to get out that out there. And that is not necessarily getting covered. One thing that I do find interesting is how popular culture has latched on to this Paul Manafort trial. You know, everything boxed, actually there is an entire thing breaking down the Al Capone tweet, then you see Esquire talking about it, Glamour magazine -- KURTZ: Fifteen thousand dollar Ostrich coat -- CAFARO: Exactly. KURTZ: The lavish lifestyle. I want to turn now to the president last night, number of rallies in recent days, just one in Ohio, what he have to say at certain cable news networks. Roll it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: MSNBC is so corrupt. It's so disgusting. So disgusting. The guys that we love, right? They are blowing them away in the ratings. Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson, Steve Doocy, Ainsley, Brian. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: So back to you, Capri. CAFARO: Sure. KURTZ: He calls MSNBC corrupt. This we never heard before. I am not sure it helps Fox when he praises the opinion hosts like that because it suggests the entire network is allied with him and that is not true certainly of the news division, but certainly the president rooting for some of his favorite hosts. CAFARO: So I think that it just continues that narrative that there is, you know, preferred network, you know, that may have a specific bias and everyone else is fake news. I do want to point out, I actually just saw this right before we went on air, that there was just a recent survey of 4,000 viewers that actually interestingly enough show Fox News as number two, as the most trusted news by most of American viewers that were surveyed. Number one was BBC, number three was PBS. So I think that says something about the viewers and how America sees MSNBC and CNN as well. KURTZ: The president is now attacking the press, I would say virtually every day, and he used the word "disgusting" at a Pennsylvania rally. This morning, he tweeted, "they purposely cause great division and distrust. They also cause war. They are very dangerous and sick." Is that over the top, also cause war? HEMINGWAY: Well, that's why I think the best way to hold Donald Trump accountable as a media organization is just to cover him straight. Because when you behave in such a clownish fashion as so many people, where they are just open and honest about how much they view their job as resisting him, it gives him the ammunition he needs. He is not going to back down any sooner than they backed down. They're in a dysfunctional relationship. They both like to go after each other. It's a talking point that resonates with the American people. A recent poll shows -- we talked about it a couple of weeks ago, 72 percent of Americans believe that the media regularly put out fake, false, and misleading information, that they do it to pursue an agenda which is obvious because every time they make a mistake, it breaks in the anti-Trump direction. So, this is going to continue until such time as the media take their jobs more seriously and start just covering him straight. KURTZ: I would say Trump's attack resonate with some of the American people. And just briefly, Gillian, so Ivanka Trump was interviewed by Axios and she said that while she didn't like some of the inaccurate reporting about her, I do not feel the media is the enemy of the American people, as she sort of with her father. Trump then tweeted about it, President Trump. She correctly said, no, it's the fake news, that is the enemy of the American people. But he defies that including New York Times, Washington Post, ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN. TURNER: And there is a reason that the president gets push back on those kinds of comments from the left and from the mainstream fake news media as he likes to call it and not from Republican lawmakers on Capitol Hill, other government officials. It is because I think a lot of this comes from from the idea that the president is expressing a frustration Republicans have widely had since the Reagan administration -- KURTZ: Yes. TURNER: -- and has not been able to verbalize -- KURTZ: It goes back -- TURNER: -- in quite that manner. KURTZ: Let me get a break here. Ahead, Corey Lewandowski weighs in on this and other media controversy. When we come back, president goes one-on-one with Lebron James and CNN's Don Lemon. Do these battles make any sense? KURTZ: President Trump throwing a body block at Lebron James after the NBA star said this in an interview with CNN's Don Lemon. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LEBRON JAMES, AMERICAN BASKETBALL PLAYER: That he's kind of use sport to kind of divide us and that's something that I can't relate to. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Trump tweeted that Lebron James was just interviewed by the dumbest man on television, Don Lemon. He made Lebron look smart. Mollie Hemingway, is the president counter punching here against Lebron's criticism? And Don Lemon who attacks him every night. But does it make sense for him to be brawling with an NBA star and a cable news opinion host? HEMINGWAY: No, it's a puerile tweet that a lot of people don't like to see their president going after athletes. They also don't like to see athletes going after their president. We feel a little bit of unevenness in the coverage. There is a kind of bad -- you know, he really gave it to Don Lemon. And a lot of people in the media, including some of his own colleagues, only focused on what he said about Lebron James. Maybe both of them needed a defense. KURTZ: Right. Capri, Lemon took to Twitter and wrote, who is the real dummy, a man who puts kids in classrooms, this is Lebron's effort in Akron, Ohio, or one who puts kids in cages? Should the cable news host take debate and directly denounce the president of the United States even though he clearly detests the president of the United States? CAFARO: As Mollie said, I mean, he is always -- Don Lemon is always kind of, you know, resisting against Donald Trump every night on CNN. But if the tables were turned, I mean, you know, Don Lemon is giving some Trump to Trump. He is sounding just like him. And you know, people praise Donald Trump for saying, you know, he is not -- if he has his back up against the wall, you challenge him, he is going to fight back. That's what Don Lemon did. He is potentially in poor taste probably but -- KURTZ: OK. CAFARO: -- I get it. KURTZ: Interesting footnote. This was sent from Melania Trump, her office, saying it looks like Lebron James is working to do good things. The first lady encourages that because he is trying to help -- CAFARO: (INAUDIBLE) Akron. KURTZ: OK. You're from Ohio, you got to say that. All right. So, New York Times' publisher, A.G. Sulzberger, has a private meeting with President Trump. This is supposed to be off-the-record. The president tweets about it. He says we talk about fake news. And then Sulzberger pushes back. So, Gillian, the mere fact that this meeting took place with the failing New York Times, does it not suggest that president really does care about the opinion of his hometown newspaper? TURNER: There is no doubt in anybody's mind that the president cares about the opinion of the mainstream fake news media because he talks about it constantly. But the more important thing with this meeting is that it underscores something I love to talk about whenever I'm covering the president's foreign policy which is that he really does believe fervently in the power of his own interpersonal skills. If he can just get one-on-one, face-to-face with all these people that are critical of him, he can make them see the light and get them to understand him, whether it is Kim Jong-un, whether it is Vladimir Putin, or whether it is Sulzberger. I think -- KURTZ: I've seen him do it. TURNER: Right. KURTZ: With (INAUDIBLE) in the campaign and Green Room. So, Sulzberger is a 37-year-old new publisher of the Times, Mollie. He had put out a long statement saying that he told the president his rhetoric was dangerous. "I warned that his inflammatory language is contributing to a rise in threats against journalists and will lead to violence." I understand him wanting to defend the paper, but do you think that that goes a little too far? HEMINGWAY: There are two problems with his statement. One is that if inflammatory rhetoric causes violence against people, I think the media should be thinking about their inflammatory rhetoric against Republicans which we have seen in recent years have led to actual shooting of congressmen, other threats on people's lives, people are getting arrested routinely. If that is true, even though I think personally that people are responsible for their own actions, you can't blame the rhetoric, then the media have a lot of hard questions to answer. The other thing is he says, Donald Trump's rhetoric is dangerous and divisive. This week, The New York Times hired Sarah Jeong on their editorial page. She is a virulent racist. KURTZ: We'll talk about that later. HEMINGWAY: And they defended that as a if it's not a problem. They need to hold themselves to the high standards they're holding up. KURTZ: In short, there are two sides to this debate. So then finally the president comes back with a series of tweets. One of them, Capri, is the media -- when the media driven insane by their Trump derangement syndrome, reveal internal deliberation of our government, it truly puts the lives of many not just journalists at risk, very unpatriotic. What do yo make of him using that word and revealing the secrets of government that has gone on since the founding of the republic. CAFARO: I think we have come up with a new Trumpism which is the Trump derangement syndrome. I suspect we are going to continue to maybe hear that from President Trump and his tweets going forward. I think that this back and forth between the accounts of what happened in this private meeting between The New York Times and President Trump is emblematic of basically the huge debate we are having as a nation. Who do we trust and who do we believe is telling the truth? The president of the United States or the mainstream media, in this case, The New York Times? KURTZ: Yeah, I would just add that reporting on government behind the scenes is as if it's the EPA or the HHS, both of which whose leaders were fired as a result of that reporting if not unpatriotic or bad thing. Capri Cafaro, Gillian Turner, Mollie Hemingway, great to see you this Sunday. Ahead, CNN and Jim Acosta say the president is whipping up crowds against them but is he to blame for every cursing protester? And up next, the media has spent months writing John Kelly's political obituary, only to find out he is still alive and walking around the White House. KURTZ: Anyone following the media coverage of John Kelly would have been convinced that the White House chief of staff was toast, that he was history, that the four-star general was about to be cashiered any day now. I am told the president asked Kelly what they were going to do about the stories then asked if he would stay on for the rest of the first term. And when Kelly said yes, Trump said we need to get this out. Once Kelly shared his plan at a staff meeting, it immediately leaked first to The Wall Street Journal and then to other media outlets. But, what does that say about this video drumbeat based of unnamed sources? The AP, "it's all leading White House staffers and Trump allies to believe that Kelly is working on borrowed time." The Wall Street Journal, "Trump consults on successors for Chief of Staff John Kelly." ABC, "the president has once again started contemplating his possible replacements." (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) ERIN BURNETT, CNN HOST: And a source telling CNN, Trump is talking to friends about possible replacements for Kelly. TUCKER CARLSON, CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL COMMENTATOR, FOX NEWS: From well informed sources in the administration that White House chief of staff, General John Kelly, may be preparing to leave his job likely very soon. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We do have people close to the White House telling that Mr. Kelly's departure could come as early as this week or could follow the president's mid-July trip to Europe. CHRIS MATTHEWS, TALK SHOW HOST, MSNBC: Back in April, NBC News report that Kelly was likely to leave by July 31st, noted that Kelly repeatedly and reportedly referred to Trump as an idiot. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The day is approaching when he is going to be leaving whether it is by his own choice or by President Trump deciding that he has had enough. (END VIDEOTAPE) KURTZ: A few caveats are in order. Trump's decision to keep Kelly doesn't invalidate the stories that his influences though that's pretty evident from the way White House is run, it doesn't knocked down stories that Kelly has vented to others about wanting to leave or that he offered his resignation after that furor over Rob Porter and domestic about allegations. It doesn't even nullify stories that Trump was seeking advice about potential successors. And yes, of course, Kelly might not make it through 2020. The president could even change his mind next month or even next week. But it is a reminder for the media that even those who work for this president don't always know what he's going to do. And that sources, using sources to predict what he will do and dismissing the official denial is risky business. Coming up, Corey Lewandowski on the coverage of the president who has constantly been battling the press on Twitter. And later, with the crowd yelling and cursing CNN's Jim Acosta, we'll talk to the reporter who pressed Sarah Huckabee Sanders on the issue. HOWARD KURTZ, MEDIA BUZZ, ANCHOR: With so many media controversies swirling around the president from the Mueller probe to the Manafort trial to the angry press crowds, joining us now from Manchester is Corey Lewandowski, Donald Trump's former campaign manager, now with Vice- President Pence's PAC. And, Corey, I've covered Donald Trump since the first day of the campaign, when it is basically you and the whole picks. I have covered the mutual warfare with the press. I have never seen the president so resentful of his coverage and so consistently using such language as unpatriotic and enemy of the American people. You're a political strategist, is this strategy working for him? COREY LEWANDOWSKI, GREAT AMERICA COMMITTEE: Well, Howie, I think -- you know, look, I don't speak for the president, but I think on behalf of him, his frustration with the mainstream media, when you look at the coverage of one historic thing that took place this week was almost nothing. We had U.S. soldier's remains returned back to Hawaii after the Korean War conflict. Mike Pence went over there. MSNBC didn't cover it, NBC didn't cover it, most of the major media outlets didn't cover it. And I think it's frustrating for this president for what he is doing on behalf of the American people to get so little credit on something that is so important. He has to go out and talk about his own message because he knows if he doesn't do it, nobody is going to do it for him. KURTZ: All right. I said on the air this week that was a mistake. It was an emotional issue, it is also tied up with the nuclear negotiations. And only Fox News carried that press conference live with that ceremony. But when you say he has to go out and talk about his agenda, increasingly, beating up on the press, he has every right to do that, if he thinks the coverage is unfair. It is overwhelmingly negative -- increasingly with the possible exception of the Mueller investigation, that has become his agenda. And so, what is he gaining out of the pounding every single day? LEWANDOWSKI: Well, Howie, if you look at the recent numbers, the plurality of the people now no longer believe the press is fair to this president, 90 percent of the media coverage of this administration has been negative from an unbiased source. And you look specifically at the network coverages and this company delineated each individual television network and who they -- who the American people believes is the fairest. The BBC is number of one, I think Fox is number two. And all the way towards the very bottom, or almost at the very bottom is CNN, because there has been so bias against this president, 4.1 percent growth rate in GDP, the lowest unemployment for Hispanics and African-Americans. And most importantly, Howie, the Rasmussen poll said that the president is receiving almost 30 percent of the African-American support in this country. That is unprecedented. And if that was Barack Obama and he was a Republican, they would be touting this. He's up 15 points in the last 18 months of his administration. And he gets absolutely no credit from the mainstream media. And I think for him, it's very disturbing because he has moved things in the right direction for this country. KURTZ: All right. LEWANDOWSKI: And he doesn't get the credit he deserves. KURTZ: What -- look, people don't like the president, already don't like CNN, MSNBC. But the tweet this morning saying fake news can cause more and they are very dangerous and sick. I mean, how do you explain the cut (ph) of inflammatory language? I understand your point, that you feel that the president has got some accomplishments and that they're being barely covered, if at all, by elements of the mainstream media, but causing war, what is he talking about? LEWANDOWSKI: Look, Howie, I think when you go back and you look at the meeting that President Trump did leading up to the Kim Jong-un and North Korea, right? The president, number one, he will never be prepared. Number two, you know, this is a disaster. This is never going to happen. This is not something that he should be doing. This takes months to negotiate and a tangible outcome of that discussion with the return of American soldiers who were left behind after the Korean conflict, the Korean War. Moreover, we are closer to the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula we've ever been. And this media doesn't want to talk about that. So, can it cause war? Sure, in the sense of this, in the hyperbole of they are creating a narrative that the president isn't qualified to go and have these conversations and other world leaders see that and they take exception to it. KURTZ: All right. Well, I would just point out that the summit with Kim Jong-un got enormous covered. A lot of the tone was negative. It is not exactly the same thing as causing war, and is a way that goes obviously in that negotiation, the White House would acknowledge that. So, the Mueller investigation, also the subject of many of presidential tweets, look, it's been over a year. He thinks it is a witch hunt. The president is obsessed with the Russia collusion situation -- allegations, I should say. But every time he tweets about it and particularly the president tweeting this week that Jeff Sessions should do something about it and shut it down, he just drives more coverage to the story. LEWANDOWSKI: Well, Howie, look, the president knows very clearly that Jeff Sessions has recused himself from this investigation. I heard Speaker Gingrich on this network talked about the fact that 90 percent of the items that Jeff Sessions has recused himself regarding this incident, he didn't need to. And that's probably true. And so, look, the president knows Jeff Sessions is not going to end this investigation. But I think it's also fair that the president has said this has been going on for a year and a half now. There is no collusion, no cooperation, no coordination between the Trump campaign and the Mueller team. And if there was, it would have been brought to life by now. So, let's bring an end to this investigation. Let's have the country move on and let's prove once and for all that there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and anyone in Russia to impact the outcome of the election because that is a fair thing to do. And the president wants to see this come to a close. KURTZ: Right. Now, Paul Manafort, the former campaign chairman, on the trial a week -- began this week for bank fraud, allegations of tax evasion, he of course, replaced you as campaign chairman back in 2016. Given what we know now, millions of dollars from Ukraine, that he was broke at the time and trying to retain a lavish lifestyle, do you think that personnel move, just hiring Paul Manafort was a mistake on the president's part? LEWANDOWSKI: Well, of course, I think it was a mistake. I think I should have probably stayed until the end of the campaign in full disclosure, Howie, because I was doing a pretty damn good job winning primaries and caucuses around the country. But, look, that decision has, you know, now happened. But here is where we are. I'm not a fan of Paul Manafort. Whatever he did had nothing to with the campaign, had nothing to do with his tenure as working or volunteering for the Trump organization. But let me ask you this, is he getting the same treatment that every other American would get if they were accused of the same thing? And look, I'm not a Paul Manafort fan. But I look at this objectively. Would somebody else be locked in solitary confinement in a federal prison for tax evasion charges when they were never audited by the IRS? I don't know the answer to it. But it does call into question. And this has nothing to do with Trump, it has nothing to do with his tenure here, and the media scrutiny around Paul Manafort is at the highest levels because for a very brief period, he was associated with the campaign. And, you know, if you look back on it now, Paul probably realizes it was a big mistake to come to the campaign. And it is not a crime to be rich. A federal judge, who was appointed by Reagan, has said this many times. It's not a crime to spend $100,000 on a vehicle or spend $1 million on a suit. KURTZ: Right. LEWANDOWSKI: You're entitled to do that, but you have to pay your taxes on it. And it is incumbent on the government to prove that Paul didn't do that. And if he didn't do it, then he would be held accountable. But this judge is right by the book. He's very fair. And I think Paul is getting a fair trial. KURTZ: Well, I would agree with you that if this trial, if it was just another lobbyist with the same charges, wouldn't be getting anywhere this attention. The reason he's back in jail is because the judge ruled that he violated the terms of his bail. Good discussion, Corey Lewandowski. Thanks for joining us in New Hampshire, good to see you. LEWANDOWSKI: Thank you, Howie. KURTZ: Ahead on MediaBuzz, CBS Chairman Les Moonves fighting for his job, challenged by the guy he hired, Stephen Colbert. But first, someone could get hurt if the president keeps attacking the press. A closer look at the protests against CNN. KURTZ: The crowd at Donald Trump's rally in Tampa was really shouting at CNN correspondent Jim Acosta, sparking a debate over the president, his angry supporters, and the press. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You can hear there is a chorus of boos and other chants in this Trump crowd here in Tampa, Florida. They are saying things like CNN sucks, go home, and fake news. Well, obviously, all of those things are false and you're going to hear some folks here I think letting their feeling be known at his rally in Tampa. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: The Daily Mail's David Martosko challenged Sarah Huckabee-Sanders the next day. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DAVID MARTOSKO, THE DAILY MAIL, U.S. POLITICS EDITOR: Is the White House willing to say right now in view of what happened with one of our TV colleagues that it is wrong for its most of vocal supporters to be menacing toward journalists doing their jobs in a situation like that or in any situation? SARAH HUCKABEE-SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: The president, as I have just said, does not support violence against anyone or anything. When it comes to the media, the president does think that the media holds a responsibility. We fully support a free press. But there also comes a high level of responsibility with that. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Joining us is David Martosko, U.S. politics editor for the DailyMail.com, and in New York, Sara Fischer, a media reporter for Axios. And, David, why did you ask Sarah Sanders that question and what did you make of her answer because she obviously didn't want to engage on this phrase, enemy of the American people? MARTOSKO: Well, sure. First of all, I asked the question not because I thought Sarah Sanders would or even should side with the press, adversary relationship. But I really was curious and I think our viewers everywhere are curious to find out if the White House has gotten tired of this pro- wrestling atmosphere. Clearly, they haven't. And, you know, Trump is TV savvy. He understands that pro-wrestling matches need faces and heels, you know, good guys and bad guys. KURTZ: Yeah. MARTOSKO: And he wants to define his enemies before they define him, or what he considers to be his enemies. Now, having said all that, the First Amendment of course is crucial to our Republic. It is the bedrock on which everything else stands. But the (inaudible) is protected by the First Amendment, too. So everybody has the right to scream and yell. And I will tell you, during the campaign, at the end, when we had these press charters and all the reporters would enter the arena at once as opposed to tripling in, sort of filtering (ph) in. KURTZ: Right. MARTOSKO: It had the feeling like we were the visiting NBA team, coming on the floor, and everyone booed. KURTZ: Boo, boo, boo. MARTOSKO: Exactly. But, you know, it is part of the pageantry. It is part of the event. KURTZ: Let me just get Sarah in here. Let me play for you Jim Acosta of CNN who has gotten a lot of attention this week, asking a similar question of Sarah Sanders the next day. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ACOSTA: For the sake of this room, the people who are in this room, this democracy, this country, all the people around the world are watching what you are saying, Sarah. And the White House for the United States of America, the president of the United States should not refer to us as the enemy of the people. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: So, Acosta actually gave a very long speech there. And I have been critical of him in terms of the way he interrupts the president. I don't think he deserves to be yelled at in an arena. But then, he walked out. He didn't like Sarah Sanders. My question is how much of all this is playing to the cameras, and how much it is a serious issue, a real point of visceral disagreement between the president, his people, and the press over the rhetoric? SARA FISCHER, MEDIA REPORTER, AXIOS: I think it's a little bit of both. And I think a little bit of this is chickening (ph) the egg. If you think back to the president on the campaign trail, you know, the contentious relationship started there. And Jim Acosta -- I worked at CNN for a little while was not as contentious at the White House supporter until the White House or the campaign at the time started to utilize him as a symbol of what they were calling the fake news media, CNN, and a couple of other outlets. And so, I think a part of this is a representation of this combative relationship getting out of control. But part of it is CNN's Jim Acosta really taking issue with the fact that the president has called the news media an enemy of the people and has continually attacked them in a way that some might think could potentially lead to danger. KURTZ: But now, David, you say you asked Sarah Sanders the question not expecting her to embrace the press. But at the same time, she got a lot of criticism for not even sort of being willing to say, hey, you know what, we have a lot of problems with the way the press performs its job, but we don't approve of angry people giving... MARTOSKO: Right. KURTZ: ... the correspondents the middle finger and yelling curse words at them. MARTOSKO: Well, I will tell you, having talked to people in the west wing, what they see -- and this is not my opinion. But what they see is reporters walking into an arena, 5000 people yelling and reporters never being reflective and say hey, what have we done to make them angry. I still talk to a lot of Trump voters during the campaign. One of them told me a month ago, that the reason he is annoyed with the White House press corps is because none of those people look like they've ever changed their oils, or shopped for groceries Wal-Mart, or would know one end of the horse from the other, it is how they put it. So, they don't see their life experiences reflect in the political news. And the White House takes full advantage of that and tries to drive that wedge. KURTZ: You know, Sarah, I think it's perfectly fine for journalists to try to hold the White House accountable for the rhetoric, but they don't seem to look very much at their own side of it. For example, you have a number of MSNBC pundits this week, likening President Trump to Stalin, because enemy of the American people is a phrase that the Soviet mass murderer had used. So this is -- there is inflammation (ph) on both sides I think. FISCHER: I couldn't agree more. I think that this relationship has gotten so contentious that the media, too, is not realizing how much they're using some combative and potentially one-sided perspective in analyzing this relationship. And I think David makes a great point that if you are not looking to be introspective, then it becomes harder to obtain the trust of the American people who think you are unrelatable and think that you are an elitist. That's something the president recognizes and is tapping into every single time he tries to paint the media as this very distant establishment... KURTZ: Right. FISCHER: ... that can't relate to the everyday American. KURTZ: By the way, Sean Hannity really going after Jim Acosta saying the people are booing, saying they don't like your unfair, abusively biased treatment. Acosta coming back saying Hannity is a propagandist and peddling lies. Hannity saying people see through your lying BS. So, everybody is getting in on this debate. MARTOSKO: Well, of course, they are. I should point out though that when Trump uses the enemy of the American people language as divisive and troublesome as the language is, from the White House's point of view, when he started this whole thing in February of 2017, he was only talking about 4 or 5 news outlets, 49 permanent seats in the press corps -- in the press briefing room. He doesn't hate all of us. He just picks a few targets and goes hard after them. KURTZ: I'm glad to hear he doesn't hate all of you. I'm also glad to have you here, David Martosko and Sarah Fischer from New York. Thanks very much. After the break, Stephen Colbert says Les Moonves is my guy, but criticizes him anyway. Can the CBS chair survive after these devastating sexual misconduct allegations? KURTZ: CBS has tapped two outside law firms to investigate the sexual misconduct allegations against its chairman, Les Moonves, published by the New Yorker. But this week, one of the network's biggest stars took him on. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEPHEN COLBERT, THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT: Everybody believes in accountability until it's their guy. And make no mistake, Les Moonves is my guy. He hired me to sit in this chair. He stood behind this show while we were struggling to find our voice. But accountability is meaningless, unless it's for everybody, whether it's the leader of a network or the leader of the Free World. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Joining us now from New York is Carley Shimkus, a reporter for Fox News 24/7 Headlines on Sirius XM. I have been tough on Colbert for being so relentlessly and sometimes critically anti-Trump, but he didn't have to take on the scandal involving Les Moonves, his guy. CARLEY SHIMKUS, FOX NEWS, REPORTER: No. Yeah, you know, I agree with you. Stephen Colbert called out politicians he disagrees with all the time. But it's got to feel different when you're calling out somebody within your inner circle. And think about all the controversial political jokes that Colbert has said over the years, especially the one about Trump and Putin that some saw as homophobic. Les Moonves was the guy in his corner saying don't worry about this, you are going to weather the storm. Now, the storm is directly over Les Moonves. And Colbert shows accountability over alliances and friendship. And I think he does deserve credit for that. That must have been really hard for him to do. KURTZ: Yeah, because he didn't have to say it. If he didn't say anything, probably there is not going to be stories saying Colbert didn't saying anything. But do you think he felt in part compelled to take on the guy. He says look, I like him, he stood beside me, because he is also sort of championing the #MeToo movement. And he didn't want to appear potentially hypocritical. SHIMKUS: Yeah. I think it has to do with that. It also has to do with the fact that every single day on his show, he takes on the Trump administration. So he made a good point where he says if you are going to hold one person accountable, you have to hold everybody accountable. And Les Moonves could potentially survive this scandal and still be Colbert's boss... KURTZ: Right. SHIMKUS: ... at the end of the day, which could be potentially a little bit awkward for them, although realistically, I think that Les Moonves does have a lot on his mind right now. And Colbert's monologue maybe a little further down on that list. KURTZ: Yeah. The thing that he has to worry about, right. I'm sure Colbert talks about Stormy Daniels and so forth, so maybe he felt like he could let this one go. But that brings my question about Moonves. He is under enormous pressure right now. There was an investors' conference call. And the investors were told you can ask about the profits of CBS which is doing well, but you can't ask about the sexual misconduct allegations that are being investigated by these outside law firms. And so -- and you know, they went along, they were wimps. I don't think reporters would have done that. Fairly or unfairly, Moonves continues to be president of CBS, giving the network a black eye. SHIMKUS: I think that if this happened -- if these allegations came out last year, Les Moonves would have already been placed on some sort of administrative leave. I think that he's benefiting a bit from the fact that there has been some time since the Harvey Weinstein scandal occurred. And CBS might feel a little bit urgency to take such immediate action. CBS has faced some backlash for keeping Les Moonves in his position of power from the Times Up movement and folks like that. But we haven't really seen that outpouring of outrage of social media for him to step down and that is a huge difference from what we saw last year when there was an allegation against somebody, you took a leave of absence or were fired immediately. KURTZ: Yeah. Hey, Charlie Rose of course didn't last 10 seconds at CBS when he came under the same kinds of allegations. Carley Shimkus, great to see you. Thanks so much. SHIMKUS: Good to see you. Thank you. KURTZ: So the New York Times defends racist tweets by its new editorial writers saying social media can be an ugly place. KURTZ: A federal judge has dismissed a suit against Fox News by the parents of Seth Rich, a young DNC staffer who was murdered two years ago. The lawsuit which also named Fox reporter Malia Zimmerman and occasional guest, Ed Butowsky filed an online report which the network retracted, suggesting that Rich secretly provided documents to WikiLeaks. Judge George Daniels said that while the family's grief is understandable, they offered no proof that Fox and the other defendants intentionally tried to inflict emotional distress dismissed by pushing a false story. The judge dismissed the second suit against Fox and the other defendants by Detective Rod Wheeler, hired by the Rich family, saying the former Fox contributor failed to prove did misquote the story, and cannot now seek to avoid the consequences of his own complicity. The New York Times is standing by its newest editorial writer, despite a history of racist tweets against white men. Sarah Jeong had called them dumbass fucking white people and dogs, BS and written oh, man, it is quite sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men, not to mention F the police and cops are A holes. The Times says she it does not condone that language, but the young Jeong regrets the tweets. She says she was responding with satire to taunts (ph) of online hates against an Asian- American woman. Those tweets were despicable. There is just no question about it. But we're also in an era where social media mobs on each side dredge our past writings to target conservatives or liberals and get them fired. And it's pretty ugly all around. A museum here in D.C. has stopped selling these fake news t-shirts, an uproar by journalists. What a moronic move that was. Hey, check out my new Podcast, Media Buzz Meter. We take a look at the top five stories. We take them around, which are fascinating or buzzy, with guests like Mollie Hemingway, Gillian Turner, (inaudible). Let's continue the conversation on Twitter. You can subscribe to the Podcast by the way on Apple iTunes or Google Play. Check out our Facebook page. We've posted a lot of original content there. Load-Date: August 6, 2018 End of Document It's Almost Two Years Now Since Mueller Started The Russia Probe Against President Trump; CNN's Jim Acosta Was Heckled By Trump Supporters During His Rally In Florida; Pastor Darrell Scott Said He Never Saw A President Who Is More Pro-African American Than President Trump Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 2, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7512 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Newt Gingrich, Mark Levin Guests: Darrell Scott, Daryl Parks Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Welcome to "Hannity". Busy news night. So, with zero evidence of cropping up in Russia-Trump collusion, 442 days of stupidity into this Mueller partisan return, well, your mainstream corrupt media is literally in this country desperately searching for a new crisis every second of every day. This time, they are trying to focus their attention on their favorite topic, oh, themselves. They are narcissistic. And one particularly devout anti-Trump fake journalist over at fake new CNN is so openly concerned the president's rhetoric could endanger members of the media. But we're going to show you how the White House press secretary, Sarah Sanders, absolutely decimated this person -- we'll tell you about it in a minute -- during today's very tense briefing. Plus, we're going to help remind the anti-Trump fake news CNN network why so many Americans chant at you that you suck. Americans don't trust your abusively biased coverage. And despite the constant stream of negative, negative coverage from the media -- well, the president's poll numbers are growing higher and higher, which, by the way, comes as the administration is now combating, quote, Russia election meddling in a big way, something that Obama failed to actually do! Obama said this couldn't happen in this country. Trump needs to focus on getting voters and stop whining. OK. Moments ago, by the way, the president wrapped up a massive rally in Pennsylvania. We'll show you those best moments. We also have the very latest details, day three of the Paul Manafort trial of the century, a 2005 tax case. Sit tight, buckle up, it's almost Friday. Time for tonight's breaking news opening monologue. We're glad you're with us. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Those crisis peddlers are at it again. Your mainstream, destroy-Trump-media has constantly tried and constantly failed to sink the Trump presidency. Night after night, they are pushing scandal after scandal. It's day after day, and now, it has come full circle. Now, tonight, the outrage of the day is centered around members of the media talking about themselves and their own little bubble. And how some believe that they president's rhetoric and conservative rhetoric, people chanting at them, any criticism against them actually is putting them in danger. All right. Let's be very clear, get it off the table, as I said last night. Violence against any member of the press, frankly anybody, is reprehensible. No one that I don't know, no real conservative, whatever call for or support any violence against the media. But I also said last night I'd be the first person to jump in and personally defend any journalist who was attacked anywhere in the country. By the way, I trained five days, hard, MMA. Frankly, I think I'd be an asset to them. And I'm pretty confident I could be effective. But let's also be clear. The fact that the people of this country are so fed up with their bias, they are lying, it's not a call for violence at all. As a matter of fact, it's actually freedom of speech, and our duty to call out blatant lies, fake news, for what it is. It's no surprise that you, the American people, no longer trust the so- called mainstream media. Here's just one recent example. Today, the Trump-hating "New York Times," the so-called paper of record, they actually defended the hiring of a person who wants to tweeted, quote, #cancelwhitepeople and, quote, are white people genetically predisposed to burn faster in the sun, thus logically being only fit to leave underground like groveling goblins? And, quote, I was equating Trump to Hitler before it was cool. That's "The New York Times". Why would- with the American people trust any organization that proudly hires that person? And today, the president tweeted, quote: They asked my daughter Ivanka whether or not the media is the enemy of the people. She correctly said no. It is the fake news, which is a large percentage of the media that is the enemy of the people. Now, the press is absolutely a vital part of any democracy. Their rights are guaranteed in our Constitution, but so are the rights of freedom of speech, and the president calling them out for the lies that they tell. And the American people also have a right and when they know a network is feeding them lies, propaganda, misinformation, every single second of every single minute of every single day, week after week, month after month, year after year, they are right to call them out. In fact, once so-called news network is so blinded by this anti-Trump derangement rage that they have, they don't even remember how destructive, how aggressive, how insane, how pathological their own rhetoric was even before day one of the Trump presidency. But we've got the videotape to remind you. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What he's done is create a lot of hatred and hostility between groups in this country after a half-century of us trying to bring people together. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are the talking heads missing something when they put it all on the economy? What about racial anxiety is a factor? "The Arizona Republic" getting so many death threats over an endorsement is an example of how overheated the rhetoric is. Another example out of North Carolina today, the firebombing of a local GOP office. But that kind of action is unacceptable, and we need to have the temperature come down on all sides right now. Unfortunately, Donald Trump is raising the temperature at this moment in time. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that if there's one thing that Donald Trump could do now that might calm some people. We are on track for a tragedy. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No, we are on the track for the best economic recovery we've had in 15 years. So, as you can see, fake news CNN quick to lower the level of discourse in this country. That was the same guy that said this is a white lash. But that didn't CNN's so-called chief White House correspondent, the king of lies, the king of fake news, Jimmy Acosta, from trying to self- righteously seize the moral high ground at today's press briefing. By the way, he didn't win this round. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM ACOSTA, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: I think it would be a good thing if you were to say right here at this briefing that the press, the people who are gathered in this room right now, are doing their jobs every day, asking questions of officials like the ones you brought forward earlier, are not the enemy of the people. I think we deserve that. SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I think the president has made his position known. I also think it's ironic -- I'm trying to answer your question. I politely waited and called on you despite the fact that you interrupted me while I was calling on your colleague. I said it's ironic -- (CROSSTALK) ACOSTA: Which is I interrupted. If you finish, if you would not mind letting me having a follow-up, that would be fine. SANDERS: It's ironic, Jim, that not only you and the media attacked the president for his rhetoric when they frequently lower the level of conversation in this country. Repeatedly, repeatedly the media resorts to personal attacks without any content other than to incite anger. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Boom, checkmate. Sarah Sanders, she then helped remind fake news Jim Acosta about the real enablers of violence during this powerful beat down. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SANDERS: The media has attacked me personally on a number of occasions, including your own network, said I should be harassed as a life sentence, that I should be choked. ICE officials are not welcome in their places of worship and personal information that's shared on the Internet. When I was hosted by the correspondents association, of which all of you are members of, you brought a comedian up to attack my appearance and call me a traitor to my own gender. In fact, as I know, as far as I know, I'm the first press secretary in the history of United States that that is required to Secret Service protections. The media continues to ratchet it up, the verbal assaults against the president and everyone in this administration. And certainly, we have a role to play, but the media has a role to play for the discourse in this country as well. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Checkmate, Sarah Sanders. As you can see, there are real acts of violence, harassment, aggression, it happens every day. There are a lot of nuts out there. I know personally. Like so many in the public eye, I've had numerous death threats over the years, white powder mailed to my office and guess what? None of that is fun. And I'll be the first to stand up and say everybody has a right to freedom of speech. But saying that you're a liar and calling out fake news is only words. Nobody is supporting any violence. So don't make accusations that are untrue. Many in the media -- they're all too happy to play down violence that have been over the years perpetrated against conservatives, for example, just the day, a man arrested after leaving Majority Whip Steve Scalise a threatening voice mail. Remember, 2017, Steve Scalise, Republican, was shot by a deranged Bernie Sanders reporter. Remember, the biased press assigning blame for that violence, nor did I. You can't hold one psycho accountable and attributed some of the person. Now, remember, during the Obama administration, no member of the mainstream media feared for their lives or blamed Obama for random acts of violence against conservatives because he said things like this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: I might have to put Mr. Burgess on Fox News. You know, I'll put -- I'll put Mr. Burgess up against Sean Hannity. He'll tear him up. I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent, or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Sean Hannity goes high. They go low. Tear me up? Oh. Get in their face? Wow. As you can see, although the end moral outrage coming from many in the media is just one more fake crisis that is being concocted and posed by the fake news media, people that are just hell-bent, waking up every day, and maligning the president, every minute, every second, every day, every week. And despite all this, the president -- well, he is pulling better than any before. Rasmussen poll out today, the president's approval rating now stands at a solid 50 percent, which incidentally is five points higher than Obama during the same time frame. This is huge news with the midterms just around the corner. And earlier tonight, during his rally in Pennsylvania, the president, well, and the abusively biased press, he took them on and so much more. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We are doing better in all of these estates then we did on election night. Much better. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) Despite only negative publicity, only negative stories from the fakers back there. Whatever happened to fair press? Whatever happened to honest reporters? (BOOS) I was asked to have tea with the queen, who was incredible, by the way. So I was about 15 minutes early and I am waiting with my wife and that's fine. Hey, it's the queen, right? We can wait. We then go up and we have tea, and I didn't know this. It was supposed to last for 15 minutes but it lasted for, like, an hour because we got along. We got along. So here was the story by the fake news: the president was 15 minutes late for the queen. Wrong. (BOOS) And then -- here's the rest of the story -- no, here's the rest. Here's the rest of the story. So, they said I was late when I was actually early. Number one. Number two, I guess the meeting was scheduled for 15 minutes, and it lasted for almost an hour. The president overstayed. But they can make anything bad because they are the fake, fake, disgusting news. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And the president also addressed immigration. By the way, a shout-out to Rush Limbaugh and yours truly. I was shocked. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We are fighting a war. We are fighting a war on drugs. They are bringing in drugs. They are bringing in lots of bad people. We are getting the hell -- we're stopping it. So we are going to be taking some very tough actions. I don't know if it's before the election or after the election. You know, a lot of the Republicans essay -- and they are good. We need more Republicans, but they are friends of mine, they say, president, you know -- some of them are really tough guys. They said, sir, we are better off if we wait until after. It's better before, let's do it before. Sir, we're better off -- you know who thinks it should be before? Rush Limbaugh thinks it should be before. (CHEERS) Before the election. You know who else? Sean Hannity. A lot of them. A lot of them. (CHEERS) Great people. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Do it before. We're 96 days away. This is -- and I am, this is not hyperbole -- this is real. The single most important midterm election in our lifetime. Look at your screen. That is their agenda. Take a look. What do they want to do? They want to impeach this president, but don't say it. What else? They want their crumbs back. What else? They want to get rid of ICE and open borders. And what else? Oh, they want to block the Supreme Court nominee and to end the investigations into the corrupt deep state. It's only been 18 months. Obama gave us 13 million more Americans on food stamps, 8 million more in property, lowest labor participation rate since the '70s, worst recovery since the '40s, 51-year low in homeownership rate. He accumulated more debt than every other president before him combined. And he tried to bribe the mullahs in Iran that say "death to America, death to Israel" with $150 in cash and other currency. He let us Assad across his phony red line in the sand. And Russia -- well, it was totally unchecked. Oh, nobody can influence our elections, Devin Nunes warned about it in 2014. Oh, and President Trump needs to stop whining. No one can do it, no serious person believes that. And many on the left and the media today are constantly, constantly just obsessing about Russia, Russia, Russia. The Trump administration has been ten times stronger than anything Obama did and after eight years of ignoring the hostile regime of Russia, the bad actor Putin, this president is actually taking potential election meddling seriously. Look at the presser from earlier today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BOLTON, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: Since January 2017, the president has taken decisive action to defend our election systems from meddling and interference. This includes measures to heighten the security and resilience of election systems and processes, to confront Russian and other foreign maligned influence in the United States. KIRSTJEN NIELSEN, HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: The progress we have made is real and the nation's elections are more resilient today because of the work we are all doing. But we must continue to ensure that our democracy is protected. DAN COATS, DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: What we see is the Russians are looking for every opportunity, regardless of party, regardless of whether or not it applies to the election, to continue their pervasive efforts to undermine our fundamental values. CHRISTOPHER WRAY, FBI DIRECTOR: Any moment is just a moment before, you know, that dial can be turned up one, much as we saw in 2016. Again, not in terms of affecting the vote count but in terms of potential penetration of voter registration databases or something like that. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The president is countering Russia but your corrupt media is more focused on covering the trial of the century, Paul Manafort, because of a tax issue from 2005. A case not about Russia, not about the 2016 campaign, not about President Trump. He didn't know him then. It's not about collusion. Robert Mueller, what the hell is this? And sadly, like every federal case, chances are high they will try again, they can indict a ham sandwich and get a ham sandwich guilty. But so far, Mueller's legal team is facing pretty stiff pushback from Judge Ellis who's presiding over that trial, after some speculation that the prosecution wouldn't even call their star witness, and that's former Manafort business partner Rick Gates. Ellis reprimanded Team Mueller and saying they can't prove conspiracy without him. And he's also consistently pushed back on the prosecution's criminalizations of the fact that the guy is wealthy. It's not a crime to be rich or spend money. We'll monitor this trial. But remember it was Ellis that said they are putting the screws to Manafort so that he'll sing or compose so they can either -- oh -- prosecute or impeach Donald Trump. Now, this has a zero impact on the president, not about him. Mueller tried and failed to turn the screws on Manafort, and guess what? Nothing. Anyway, joining us now from the Trump Organization, he's the son of the president, Eric Trump. How are you? Good to see you. ERIC TRUMP, SON OF PRESIDENT TRUMP: That was a especially incredible monologue. HANNITY: Thank you. I'm sorry for making you sit through this. TRUMP: It's so well-done. HANNITY: Look, let me -- you dealt with this in my campaign, you deal with this every day, you see they lie about your father. They twist, they turn, but they wake up and feign all this moral outrage. I got -- I would think, as a son, it's hard, but you also know they are lying. TRUMP: The hypocrisy is unlike anything you can imagine, right? You have them attacking Baron. You have them attacking Tiffany. You have them attacking our entire family. You have them out there spewing garbage every single day on CNN and all these other networks about my father, right? Covering nonsense while forgetting about the fact that our economy grew 4.1 percent, that we have the lowest unemployment in history, that jobs are coming back to the country, that the stock market is at a record high. They forget all about that. HANNITY: Defeat ISIS, got out of Iran, Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, oh, and little rocket man is not firing rockets. TRUMP: So, they spew nonsense all day and then little Jim Acosta gets belittled at a rally and all of a sudden, you know, I'm holier than -- I mean, it's really incredible. HANNITY: Eric, without -- has your family been threatened? TRUMP: I've been threatened. Our family has been threatened. HANNITY: Don has been threatened. TRUMP: All of us, we've all had white powder show up at our house. HANNITY: By the way, I've insisted that they had to one day just quarantine the poor system for eight hours because of that. TRUMP: And by the way, there is no moral outrage about that, right? When Ben Shapiro goes to Berkeley to try and give a speech, right, and there's protests in the street, there is no moral outrage about that. You know, let the men have freedom of speech. Let him go out there and speak to people who want to listen to him. But when it happens to them, when they are offended by a method, all of a sudden -- HANNITY: Did you see what they said about Melania, a Democratic candidate, this week? What they said about both to your sisters? TRUMP: And you know, how much of this reported, that comment about Melania, which was one of the truly most disgusting thing -- HANNITY: Disgusting, yes. TRUMP: -- you know they said about that? Nothing. The only person who actually really, you know, came to Melania's defense? It was Laura Ingraham. Laura came out and she was punching and she was punching -- HANNITY: Excuse me, hello? TRUMP: And you. HANNITY: OK, hello, I'm here. TRUMP: But you know what? HANNITY: Yes. TRUMP: No one else in the media. HANNITY: By the way, she is the loveliest woman. TRUMP: It's true. HANNITY: Your little brother is a great kid. Why does he have to turn on the television set with a decapitated, blood severed head of your father? TRUMP: Yes. HANNITY: And, by the way, that person was employed by CNN at the time. TRUMP: And no one ever said anything about it. A couple people chanted "CNN sucks", right, CNN sucks because of this biased coverage and everything else. All of a sudden, everybody starts crying. It's really incredible, Sean. HANNITY: CNN sucks. TRUMP: Yes, I agree. HANNITY: The problem with them -- and I tried to give them advice. Of course, they're not going to listen -- is I don't even think -- it's sort of like I was watching Peter Strzok that day and he seems like he believes he's a super patriot, he knew better than the American people. We are going to stop them, insurance policy, we need to go to the bottom of that. And, of course, we will come eventually. But it's sort of like the media, they never thought he could win, they mock that he was running, he beat 16 other people, he beat the Hillary Clinton machine, even with the fixed in and an investigation into her, and one against him -- TRUMP: Now they downplay it. Now, they downplay it. You know, it's really amazing. During the campaign, my father said, you know what, my biggest goal, if I could achieve 3 percent GDP growth, I would absolutely love, right? So, now he's at 4.1 percent GDP growth, right? And they're not even touting that. They're not even -- they were mocking him when he said he could achieve three. You'll never achieve three. "The New York Times" came out and said he will never achieve 3 percent GDP growth. Economists think he is lying about that. Then he achieves 4.1 percent growth and they don't even complement him on doing it. I mean, they forget about it. HANNITY: I actually think if he cured cancer, they still hate him. TRUMP: No, they wouldn't give him credit. Of course not. HANNITY: OK. So, the question is, it seems likely people are now aware of what the media's agenda is. So, to me, this midterm is about the six items I just mentioned. You were even working on 2020 already. But we got an election in 96 days. What do you say to those people that may be only go out for presidential elections and there is a lower turnout in midterm election years? TRUMP: Well, listen, I think we're going to do very, very well. And I think this country, by every quantifiable measure, is doing better today than it's ever done before. People are seeing that. I think -- listen, you started the opening monologue with the fact that he's above 50 percent in the polls right now, right? HANNITY: I think he polls lower too. (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: His highest ever. I think you are right, there's probably extra factors in there. Our economy is doing incredible. Our stock markets are off the charts. He's actually defending this country from NATO, from getting ripped off. HANNITY: Trade deals. TRUMP: Unemployment, trade deals, everything. The deal he struck with the E.U. last week. I mean -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Imagine you are a deposition, things are getting better, and what America does well, the Democrats and the left-wing media, they are mad because they are proven wrong. TRUMP: They should be mad. They should be mad because right now, they have nothing to run on. They have no leadership. They have no message. They don't stand for anything. He is doing well by every quantifiable measures so the only thing they can do is, he's a racist, he's sexist, he's a this, he's a that, right? The same sound bite they've used for three years that hasn't worked at all. HANNITY: They've used it for 30 years. (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: What do they stand for? They stand for what, high taxes? Is that what they stand for? They stand for -- HANNITY: Or the crumbs. TRUMP: -- getting rid of -- yes. HANNITY: Open borders, Obamacare. TRUMP: Open borders, getting rid of ICE, brave men and women who are fighting for the safety of our families, of our children every single day, is that what they are going for? They're going to lose out all day long, Sean. They're going to lose out all day long. HANNITY: Great to see you. Congrats on the baby, too. I saw a picture of your baby. Very cute. TRUMP: Thank you. HANNITY: Looks like your mom. TRUMP: Good. HANNITY: Yes. All right. When we come back, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and the great one, Mark Levin, straight ahead. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Republicans just passed the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country. And the Democrats want to lift them way up. Remember that. When you go to vote, they want to end your tax cuts and they want to lift it up so they can waste your money on a lot of nonsense. (BOOS) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. That was President Trump earlier tonight at his Pennsylvania rally. Joining us know, the author of "The New York Times" best seller, "Trump's America: The Truth About Our Nation's Great Comeback," former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. You know districts as well, if not better, than anybody I know. I reminded his audience that I was the emcee the night you became speaker. It was the first time that Republicans took the House in 40 years. So, in off year elections, midyear elections, the power -- the party in power of the White House usually loses on average 15 seats. Some years it's more, some years it's even a little less. There are 100 competitive races, 86 are deemed Republicans defend districts. That's a lot of defending. They got a win 61 of those seats, and three of the 14 Democratic seats that are in play. NEWT GINGRICH (R), FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER: Look, I think we have two futures this fall. Back in October of 2016 when you and I were among the very few people who thought Donald Trump could win, and all the same experts, everybody right now who is talking about a blue wave, who's convinced Hillary is going to win, just go back and pull up the clips and the quotes. It's embarrassing. Now, what happened? Well, what happened was Trump had the goods to fight it out. He had the guts to go nose to nose with Hillary, had the guts to take on the elite media, he had the guts, no matter what the poll said, to campaign five or six or seven rallies a day. So, where are the House Republicans? This is not complicated. I've done this my whole life. Joe Gaylord and I, and, you know, Joe designed the '94 campaign, writing a brief paper right now to say to House Republicans, you know, suck it up. If you are prepared to go nose to nose with the left and you're prepared to tell the truth, and you're willing to wage a national campaign, you want open borders or do you want to control who comes in the U.S., including MS- 13 gangsters? Do you want really great economy, really great growth? Or do you want to go back to food stamps, dependency, big government, et cetera? Go down the list. We have a chance here for historic election, to give the American people an honest choice between a radical, extremist Democratic Party in which the progressive wing is gradually being destroyed by the radical extremists, or they can try to appease the elites. And I tell you, if they run a district by district campaign, they will lose the House. It is impossible in the modern era. You are proof of it. Rush Limbaugh is proof of it. You are in 435 districts every day. And so Republicans have got to decide they are to win the fight, they are going to the win the argument. They got all of the issues on their side. But the question is, do they have the courage? SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Let me ask you this. So, the president tweets out about Robert Mueller, he tweets out about Jeff Sessions about the witch hunt. He was very clear in saying that no it's fake news. Most media is not the enemy of the people but the fake news ones are because they don't tell the American people the truth. What does the president do -- how do you -- how should he be dealing with this cloud that has been hovering over his head with no evidence whatsoever? Like for example, Paul Manafort, there is nothing about Russia, nothing about the president, nothing about the campaign, and nothing about collusion. It was a 2005 tax case was Hillary Clinton has never indicted. How does he navigate what he believes and what I also agree with his unfair witch hunt leading into this mid-term? GINGRICH: Look, I think he can do three things to be very decisive and that would change the whole picture. The first is, let me point to everybody in the audience, 98 or 99 percent of what Mueller is doing is not covered by Sessions recusal over the Russian campaign incident. Ninety eight of 99 percent. Sessions if he did his job could intervene tonight or tomorrow and would be totally within his authority. Ad he should. Number two, the president will take every example we are talking about and simply declassify. I mean, I want to see every decision memo about Benghazi where the Obama team consciously decided lie to the American people. I want to see all the decision memos about Hillary Clinton. The president can order them released. I mean, he has to do it by executive orders and say I want them out by next Thursday. Don't give me this baloney about it's going to take 22 years. Get them out. Third, I think we ought to look very carefully at what this case is all about. Mueller has a bunch of very left wing Democrats. They are totally a hunting party. And I think the president should challenge Mueller head on. Mueller, he should say to the president -- or he should say to Mueller, I dare you to hold a press conference. And tell the American people any evidence you have that you think is relevant to why you originally hide? Give us any evidence you have. Because I don't think Mueller has any evidence. And I think it would be embarrassing at how little he knows-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I think this Manafort case. GINGRICH: What he's done is he's gone over there. HANNITY: I think that's embarrassing. A 2005 tax case. The judge even said put the screws to him so he sings or composes to either prosecute or impeach Trump. Let's not kid ourselves. And the judge said that to Mueller's team. All right. Mr. Speaker, good to see you. As always, thanks for being with us. All right. When we come back, the great one. Mark Levin he wants to weigh in on all things Mueller, Manafort and much more, straight ahead. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We are hindered by the Russian hoax. It's a hoax, OK? I will tell you what. Russia is very unhappy that Trump won. That I can tell you. I was the one that let out 60 diplomats. I was the one that complained about the fact that Germany is paying billions of dollars for a ridiculous pipeline coming into Germany. They're paying billions and billions of dollars a year to Russia. I was the one that complained about it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. That was the president just a short time ago his rally in Pennsylvania ripping the Russia hoax. And just moments ago, President Trump he arrived at Morristown airport in New Jersey. As I believe he is headed for Bedminster. Joining us now with reaction on this and so much more is the host of the number one rated cable show 10 o'clock on Sunday evenings, Life, Liberty, and Levine. Thank me. God bless us, and the host of CR TV -- CR TV Levin TV. (CROSSTALK) MARK LEVIN, FOX NEWS HOST: Liberty and Levin. Levin TV. HANNITY: Who has an entire network named after them except you? LEVIN: Yes. HANNITY: How are you, my friend? LEVIN: I'm doing great. How are you? By the way, for five seconds I want to join you in celebrating Rush Limbaugh's 30 years who made it possible for all of us to do what we do. The man has taken more spheres and arrows and it's such a great honor to call him my friend and what he's done for this country is really incalculable. Anyway, go right ahead. HANNITY: I got to tell you, and I mean this. Without talk radio for 30 years and him leading that way and forging that path and without Fox. Honestly, let's talk about Acosta and how corrupt this news media is and a bunch of cry babies they're calling us fake news. It's like -- it's not violence. That's called freedom of speech. It's like I guess they have freedom of the press to lie like they do. LEVIN: I would say this. You know, a lot has been said about the president calling fake news the enemy of the people. I have a different take on this. Why do the press hate the American people? Over 65 million people give or take voted for Donald Trump for president of the United States. I wrote this down. Various press outlets and reporters and hosts or their guests called millions and millions of Americans Nazis, racists, deranged, cultists, deplorables and even worse. How do the press in this country justify calling tens of millions of people such outrageous names? And we conservatives have watched this the press have destroyed, they're seeks to destroy Trump, Palin, Bork, Clarence Thomas, Ronald Reagan, the list goes on and on and on. The D.C. press corps today is the least professional press corps in my lifetime. They think that their job is to make it impossible for the president to function, to sabotage him and to advance the cause of the ideologues, to advance the cause of a rogue prosecutor by the name Bob Mueller. And so, the press really needs to be circumspect, to take a look at itself. It won't. As long as they keep putting clowns like Jim Acosta out there who is a drama queen of sorts and who like to report on themselves and talk about themselves. As long as it's impossible to tell a late night comedian from Jake Tapper, and Jake Tapper from the porn star and all the rest of it. This is going to be the reaction of the American people. HANNITY: Well, if it wasn't so important. This is where, you know, thank God the American people have choices. We are part of it. It's an honor. And I feel blessed to be able to do this. As I know you do. Let me ask you this and let you put on your attorney's hat for a minute. For those who don't know you were the chief of staff for I think one of the greatest attorney generals ever and that was Edwin Meese. Why would they ever allow an illegitimate investigation run by Mueller and his merry band of Democratic donors to interview President Trump when there is no evidence, collusion is not a crime, no evidence whatsoever. It's been a witch hunt from day one. Look at what they are doing with Manafort. LEVIN: I think Attorney General Meese at this point would have stepped down. I honestly do. And Newt Gingrich was on to something there. Much of the power being exercised by the deputy attorney general or the attorney general has nothing to do with Jeff Sessions' recusal. Jeff Sessions won't be attacked by the media as long as he is quiet. But the minute he speaks up or does something, he will be attacked. Look, the Manafort trial -- here's what I don't get. Most of the issues they're raising if he did all of these things, bank fraud, embezzlement, tax fraud and all the rest, and he did it during the Obama administration. Who was the FBI director? Mueller. Mueller was the FBI director. He did nothing about it apparently when he was the FBI director. Apparently they didn't know anything. So now Manafort is the campaign chairman for Donald Trump and they throw 17 left wing Democrat prosecutors at the guy who worked for the special counsel. That is a matter for the U.S. attorney's office in the Eastern District of Virginia. That's number one. Now, Mueller is pushing the other case into the Southern District of New York. Then they set up Lieutenant General Mike Flynn. Then they have few lesser lights here where they get for false statements o something like that. What the hell do we have the special counsel for? You want to know why? Because he wants Trump. And he wants to interview Trump. And he wants to get him on obstruction of justice. And now he is threatening here-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: A perjury trap. LEVIN: -- that -- what he is going to do you see he issue a subpoena to pull the president in front of a grand jury. Let me tell you something. Mr. Mueller, you are not the king of universe. And I hope the president's lawyers are listening to me and the president right now. Here's what he should tell Mr. Mueller. Have a meeting with him and tell him, you're unconstitutional under the appointments clause. What you are doing is unconstitutional as far as we are concerned. We are not going to bow to you. This is the Office of the President of the United States. You are a rogue prosecutor. Now get the hell out of my office and make sure the door doesn't hit you in the ass. I will see you in court. That's the beginning and the end of it as far as I'm concerned. HANNITY: Let me ask you, I'm watching this thing on Manafort. I don't know what Paul Manafort did in 2005, I don't think Donald Trump knew who Paul Manafort was in 2005. We know Judge Ellis is right-- (CROSSTALK) LEVIN: Well, apparently Mueller did when he was the FBI director at the time. HANNITY: I don't think the president knew him. I don't think anybody knew him. But they pulled this out of moth balls just to put the screws to him so they could get him to sing or compose as Judge Ellis said, so that they could prosecute or impeach Trump. In this whole tax case from '05, there will be no talk of Russia. There's going to be no talk about the campaign. There will be no talk about his work for Donald Trump. There will be no talk of collusion. This is just a -- this is just a cheap attempt to literally go after a guy they never would have gone after because they are trying at all costs to get the president. LEVIN: And so the question is, Rod Rosenstein who gives a rubber stamp to this and created this in the first place by appointing his dear friend the man he first worked for at the Justice Department, Mr. Mueller who was best friends with Comey. What a colossal disaster. You have Jeff Sessions, the man I've known for 30 years who is sitting this out. He shouldn't be sitting it out. These are constitutional issues. And quite frankly, Mr. Mueller can't keep hiding behind his 17 left wing Democratic donor prosecutors. Where the hell is Congress? I want to know what Mr. Mueller thinks he can do under our Constitution, I want to know Mr. Mueller-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, I have to-- LEVIN: -- thinks he can do and under this two Department of Justice memos as well. HANNITY: Mark, you know, when I say tick-tock something big is coming that will blow this all out of the water. Thank you for being with us, the great one, Mark Levin. When we come back, Pastor Darrell Scott he will join us, saying that the president is probably the most pro-African- American president he has seen in his lifetime. They'll be here with Daryl Parks and we've got the numbers, next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: You heard this but I will say it over and over because I'm really proud of it. Remember I said, what do you have to lose? What do you have to lose? African-Americans, so many others. I said, what do you have to lose? You have high crime rates, you have horrible education. You have this -- I went through a list of 10. That's what happened. African-American, Hispanic, Asian. You have the lowest level of unemployment in the history of our country. How does somebody fight that, right? How does that somebody fight that? (APPLAUSE) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The president earlier tonight talking about how unemployment numbers for minority to African- Americans, Hispanic-Americans and Asian- Americans are the best on 14 states all record lows. Now and yesterday, a friend of the show, Pastor Darrell Scott who also serves as the CEO of the National Diversity Coalition for the Trump CEo had this to say about the president during a White House meeting with inner city pastors. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DARRELL SCOTT, FOUNDER & PASTOR, NEW SPIRIT RIVAL CHURCH: To be honest, this is probably going to be -- and I'm going to say this as the most pro- black president that we've had in our lifetime. Because and I try to, you know, analyze the people that I encounter. This president actually wants to prove something to our community. Our faith based community and our ethnic community. The last president didn't feel like he had to. He feels like he didn't have to. He got a pass. This president, this administration is probably going to be more proactive. We got urban revitalization and prison reform than any president in your lifetime. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And Pastor Darrell Scott joins us now along attorney Daryl Parks. All right, Daryl. SCOTT: Hi. HANNITY: -- the numbers are in. Simple question, is the African-American community, Hispanic community, women in the workforce, Asian-Americans best are they doing better under President Trump or did they do better under eight years of Obama? SCOTT: We don't know which Darrell you're talking to. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Darrell Scott. All right. I'm sorry! DARYL PARKS, ATTORNEY: Well, Sean, what we want to see the president really address the issue historically black colleges. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: No, no, I asked you a question. No diversion. PARKS: Well, I'm talking to the education issue, though. HANNITY: Is the African-American community and all these minority communities are they doing better under Trump or Obama? PARKS: Sean, historically black colleges are not doing better. HANNITY: OK. PARKS: Still they need base-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How about-- PARKS: -- and not doing better. HANNITY: -- on employment and the economy? Trump or Obama? PARKS: That's what the president needs to address. But here's the challenge. What do President Trump doing to help unemployment? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Forget the challenge. You notice, Pastor Scott, you know, Pastor, when you don't want to answer a question that kind of means I put him in a corner called checkmate. I play chess. He can't answer this question. Because he knows the answer is Trump and not Obama. Pastor Scott? SCOTT: Listen, unemployment is at an all-time low. I lived through 12 different presidents. And contemplating that fact. This president is the only one that I am aware of, and I'm aware of the prison initiatives, the urban revitalization initiatives. He is focusing and concentrating on making a concerted effort to improve the quality of living for black Americans. So it's easy for me to say what I said yesterday because, you know, I lived through a lot of different presidents. And I haven't seen any other take a pro-active stance to us black Americans like this president is doing. HANNITY: Darrell Scott? I'm sorry. Daryl Parks? PARKS: Well, let me say. I think on the pro-black issue, for example, this president has not appointed black judges, Sean. And so that point alone show me the numbers as where he's appointed black judges. HANNITY: We got millions -- we have disproportionately in the Obama years when you look at the millions more in poverty, food stamps, out of the labor force. Not buying homes. The black and Hispanic communities were disproportionately impacted. Now the opposite has happened and you can't even say, good job, President Trump. It's good for everybody. PARKS: Good job, President Trump. But we have other issues. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I wish you voted for President Trump now. PARKS: No. But I want to see President Trump put more blacks in his administration. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Pastor? PARKS: We don't see black faces in his administration. HANNITY: Pastor? SCOTT: But listen, listen. Attorney Parks, listen. When people asked me why aren't more blacks in the administration? I ask them, where were those blacks during the campaign? Us, blacks that were with him during the campaign were vilified, ostracized, called Uncle Tom, cahoots, sellouts, and everything else. Now all of a sudden you got black people that were told to stay away from Trump during the campaign. Now you are saying where are the black people he's supposed to have? Where were they have been? PARKS: But Pastor Scott, he could still appoint black people to his cabinet. There is no reason that blacks should not be appropriately represented in U.S. government. It's only right. HANNITY: All right. We're going to-- (CROSSTALK) SCOTT: He has Ben Carson in the cabinet and I'm working with him. So what do you want? HANNITY: By the way, Daryl Parks, do you realize-- (CROSSTALK) PARKS: We need more than one. HANNITY: -- do you realize Pastor Scott let me preach from (Inaudible) at his church. It was the worst moment. I did terrible. All right. Thank you both. When we come back, more of the president's speech from his rally in Pennsylvania. HANNITY: All right. During tonight's rally, President Trump talked about the new face of the Democratic Party. Let's find out who it is. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: You know who the new star? You know who that new leader is? Maxine Waters. (CROWD BOOING) TRUMP: Very low I.Q. Low I.Q. No, no, Maxine Waters is like -- she's like, their new star. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I'm not saying impeach 45. I think they had a meeting and said anyone that's saying that, don't say that but we'll do it anyway. Let's not just be honest with the American people. And they want their crumbs back. And open borders. And Obamacare. All right. That's all the time we have left. We'll always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Ingraham, standing by. Hi. Load-Date: August 3, 2018 End of Document Analysts Examine the Effect of More Women Running for Political Office; Rightwing and Leftwing Organizations Join Together to Criticizes Donald Trump's Foreign Policy; Former President Obama Issues Candidate Endorsements for 2018 Midterms. Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST August 2, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8101 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Kellyanne Conway, Harmeet Dhillon, Pam Hayes, Glenn Greenwald, Herman Cain Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Ingraham standing by. Hi LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hey, I'm just writing Eric Trump a thank you note for mentioning me during your show tonight. HANNITY: I'm sitting here, and he goes, literally says you know who is great at defending Melania? Laura Ingraham. I'm like, what am I, chopped liver? INGRAHAM: Well first of all, this is why you and I have been friends for 18 years. You were number one in cable, you are number -- close to Rush in radio. A little mention of someone else, you are like, "oh what about me"? Typical man. HANNITY: You know why? Let's be honest. Everyone in this business, you know this is true -- is overpaid, lazy, and narcissistic. And most of them are all agenda. We're honest. We're talk show hosts. We do journalism, we do straight interviews, we do investigative reporting, we do commentary, we do opinion, we do it all. INGRAHAM: We do radio -- HANNITY: By the way, how great was headed, Rush -- 30 years, paving the way for all of us? INGRAHAM: Unbelievable. I would not -- 18 years ago, I got into radio -- you when I started the same year on national radio, you were doing other stuff -- 2001, I never would have done it. HANNITY: Right, I was the guy in Santa Barbara, 1987, and then Huntsville, Alabama, and then Atlanta, you started at the top. I am so sorry it was so hard for you. INGRAHAM: I was a lawyer, OK? Have a little pity for me as a lawyer. I was a lawyer. HANNITY: We probably could go on for another 40 minutes -- we'll just fill the show with us bantering back and forth and figuring like children. INGRAHAM: We're doing that. One Friday when you are not taking a vacation day, we're going to do that. HANNITY: Seriously, if -- you and Tucker take more vacation than anybody/. INGRAHAM: Probably because when you live in a palace, you don't have to go anywhere. The rest of us live in ramblers, OK? HANNITY: I can't win this debate. I can't INGRAHAM: You can't. No you can't. You had a great show tonight. All right , talk to you later. HANNITY: OK, have a great show. All right see you later. INGRAHAM: Welcome to Washington -- we are going to do that show some time -- I'm Laura Ingraham. This is the INGRAHAM ANGLE. We have a very busy Thursday night. The president wrapping up another ruckus rally, just a short while ago amidst new bad blood between the U.S. and the media. Counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway will be here in just moments to react to both. Herman Cain will stop by later, and he'll break down the looming battle between the president and former President Obama in the midterms. But first, partisan reporters and faux outrage. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. All right for the past few days, a search in cable news reporter has been dining out and whining about this scene from Tuesday's Trump rally. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (CROWD CHANTING AND BOOING) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No ma'am. No ma'am. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're a phony! You're a liar! (CROWD CHANTING AND BOOING) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The day after he basked in the afterglow of the insults with contrived dismay. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM ACOSTA, CNN REPORTER: Honestly, it felt like we weren't in America anymore. I don't know how to put it any more plainly than that. Americans should not be treating their fellow Americans in this way. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, I have a question. Do these guys ever think about how they treat America? Hearing reporters complain about the angry reception they get in red state America is kind of like having an arsonist to lecture us about campfire safety. As Billy Joel saying, "we didn't start the fire." Now I personally don't like anyone shouting swear words or giving reporters or anyone the finger. But I certainly can understand the frustration of the Trump voters. For much of the past three years, many in the press have been either underestimating or ridiculing both Trump and his supporters. Raise your hand if you are tired of journalists making themselves the center of every story. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ACOSTA: I tried to calmly talk to a lot of these folks at the rally last night, and say, listen, hey, tell me what you want to talk about. Why are you guys so upset with us? They would kind of go through a list of questions, most of the questions were about, why don't you guys report positive news about the president? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, so why don't you report positive news about the president? I wonder why these people are so understandably upset. According to the media research center, and the first two months of 2018, 91 percent of broadcast network coverage of Trump was negative. The favorite story, of course, was the Russia investigation. And of the time devoted to covering the administration, one fourth of it, 24 percent of that airtime, was devoted to the Mueller probe. No other administration topic received that much attention, not even close. And when they do cover another topic, like immigration for instance, it is 92 percent negative, only 8 percent positive. And you wonder why people are ticked off. It is not surprising that in a new survey by the research firm Brand Keys, FOX News is near the top of the trusted names in news. CNN, down near the bottom. Of course, the media may not be great at objectivity, but they are total pros at blame diffraction. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ACOSTA: These opinions that they have at the rallies, they are shaped by what they see in the primetime hours of FOX News. It is very unfortunate but it's a pitting of American against American and honestly, it needs to stop. JAKE TAPPER, CNN HOST: The erosion of basic standards, stability and human decency, continues. It's not just a republican phenomenon, we are being led down the drain by President Trump. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: A little over a statement there, Jake. So it's our fault or the president's fault that the press refuses to do no soul-searching at all? None of the blame is theirs? Have they not seen most surveys that show trust in the network, their product, is near an all-time low? A new poll from Quinnipiac format a majority of all Americans disapprove of how the media cover Trump. Among republicans, nearly nine in ten disapprove. But still, come on. It's the people who are the problem, not the press. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHUCK TODD, MSNBC HOST: This kind of unfocused, visceral anger at the other side of really neutral people, like folks in the press corps, it can lead to this. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's just beyond reprehensible comparison. We want to talk about Steve Scalise. We'll talk about that later. I don't recall the same level of concern over the violence that let's say, at Berkeley, when conservatives speak, or outside the Trump rallies in San Jose during the campaign. Remember when that guy was pummeled? When the left engages in not just harsh language, but criminal acts of violence, destroying property, putting police lives at risk, the media work overtime to understand the underlying anger and upset. BEGIN VIDEO CLIP UNIDENTIFIED MALEI: I see a lot of people expressing their humanity in the face of a candidate who has really built his candidacy on denouncing their humanity. And yeah, there are a few people out there who were not out there to actually protest, but at the end of the day, they accomplish their goal. They got on TV and they got their issues aired. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They have grievances. It's not like his mindless or they just want violence. They are speaking out about somebody who is attacking their communities. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We want you to know that our hearts are out there marching with them. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Did any of them bemoan the vile nature of the commentary or the signage at, let's say, the women's march? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MADONNA, SINGER: I didn't know devils could be resurrected, but I feel Hitler in these streets. Yes, I'm angry, yes, I am outraged, yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Remember when Madonna did all that yoga? I thought that was supposed to make you calm and zen- like. Where were the liberal complaints about this rhetoric? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: And with this kind of inspiration, I will go and take Trump out tonight. JOE BIDEN, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I wish we were in high school -- I could take it behind the gym. That is what I wish. ROBERT DE NIRO, ACTOR: How dare he say the things he does. Of course they want to punch him in the face. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Where was the media outrage about that? Did President Obama or other well-known democratic leaders decry that approach, that language, that vitriol, that incitement to violence? Of course they did not. Because after all, President Trump, the people who supported him, continue to support him, they all deserve that and worse. And were the media condemnations when women who were affiliated or support for the president were harassed at restaurants, driven from movie theaters? The liberal media don't have any difficulty finding tough words to describe Trump supporters, though. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is truly dangerous. UNIDENTIFED FEMALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We keep referring to his base. Well, I'm sorry, but the people we saw, at that rally, if that's his base, it is deranged. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Deranged? I guess, he kind of as an aspect on deranged, sitting across Joe Scarborough for all these years. But come on, the selective media outrage is laughable, it's also kind of sad. But come on, if it's directed at Trump, protest and violence are considered really patriotic and kind of cool. But otherwise, it must be condemned as dangerous. It's pretty simple. Look, the culture has been corsent (ph), the entertainment industry, music, film, billboards, television, everything is over sexualized or too violent or just dumped down altogether. But come on, this didn't start with Trump. It began about 50 years ago when liberals were on a mission to kick God out of the schools and when they began ripping down our basic institutions of civic life. And as this happened, fly over America felt demeaned by the dominant culture, which came to see them as backwater, intolerant, and yes, even racist. This just made them furious and resentful. But then came Donald Trump. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Our economy is soaring, our jobs are booming. Factories are pouring back into our country. They are coming from all over the world. And the forgotten men and women of the United States are forgotten no more, (CHEERS) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: You can almost hear the peals of laughter at certain cable news at studios after he says stuff like that. But most in that crowd in the audience, across America, they like what they hear there. They don't want to be forgotten. My friends in the media, you cannot ridicule and attack a major part of the American electorate. You can't disparage them and the president they voted for every day and then expect gratitude and cordiality in return. But I hope everyone will take a breath and learn to treat each other with civility and respect. The protesters, the president, and the media, and the way they cover them all. And that is THE ANGLE. Joining me in every action, here in studio, two political heavyweights, Matt Schlapp, on the American conservative union side, and Philippe Reines, a former advisor to Hillary Clinton, and in California, a man who has written extensively about media hypocrisy, especially when it comes to violent rhetoric, Victor Davis Hanson of the Hoover Institute. Good to see all of you. Philippe? PHILIPPE REINES, FORMER ADVISOR TO HILLARY CLINTON: I don't even know where to start. What do you want me to -- INGRAHAM: Your reaction -- REINES: My reaction is -- INGRAHAM: -- your laughter is what I was writing about. You are laughing about the America or the supporters? REINES: I'm not laughing at America. I'm laughing because I see what happens as someone watching this every night. Now I understand also, I understand if someone only watches another channel every night. It's very possible that you are not 100 percent right, you, being FOX. And that CNN is not 100 percent right and there's somewhere in between. But you don't get any of that. There is no common -- I'm not going to be cutesy about common ground -- but we were talking earlier about different conspiracy theories. There is nothing I could say to debunk one because I would say, well, here, look at this associated press story, or here, look at this FOX story. There is nothing we all agree upon. So you have, yes, this toxic environment in the White House briefing room. I don't think it should be on TV anymore. But you also have a president who is lying, he is lying multiple times a day, he is lying at a rate more than anyone ever has. MATT SCHLAPP, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: That's not true. REINES: It is true. He has lied 4,229 times every single day-- SCHLAPP: That is just lying from left-wing outlets. That's exactly what you're talking about. We can agree on truth. We can agree on truth. There are good reporters. REINES: Do you fact check? SCHLAPP: But that does not help -- the fact-check organizations that all these groups -- REINES: But why don't you? SCHLAPP: -- are all paid by your left-wing buddies. That shouldn't happen. There is truth, Laura. There is right and wrong. By the way, all politicians should be held to that standard, but I agree with you, you can't go out there is a journalist and say you are objective and then be on your Twitter feed making fun of me and my friends and my family on a regular basis. You don't get to have it both ways. INGRAHAM: Do you think there is polling, the way people feel about the media general? Whether they approve or disapprove of the coverage of the president? The majority -- it's not a FOX poll -- the majority, it they do not approve the way they cover the president to bring the majority believe they are biased toward the liberal side of the equation. So I know you have your views about the president. I'm trying to keep this argument focused on this conflagration between the media and conservatives and the media and this administration. Victor David Hanson, you just wrote a column today about this. The culture that we live in. VICTOR DAVID HANSON, COLUMNIST, NATIONAL REVIEW: Yes. INGRAHAM: Your reaction to what you saw and heard over the last few days and the ANGLE? HANSON: Well, I think there is a certain elite that feel that because their aims are so virtuous or they're so enlightened, so well educated, that there means to achieve them are okay. Take Jim Acosta, in reaction to that, a reporter at Politico said basically -- the people at that rally had no teeth and they were garbage. We haven't heard that since Peter Strzok said that people smelled at Walmart. And you get into this deplorable and irredeemable, your political activists that talk about her twitter, they go across the White House and make noise so the president can't sleep. It's all predicated on this contempt that they have a geographical or sociological or cultural subset of America and they are imbued with it. And the irony of it, Laura, is that when you take this Sarah Jeong, who is now a member of "The New York times" editorial board, she's a product of Berkeley, she's a product of Harvard law school. Yet, she's voicing racist sentiments that are right out of the middle ages. And the same thing with Ocasio Cortez. She's a Boston University graduate but she's clueless on the Middle East or basic economics. So red state America is presented with this paradox that this really well educated, enlightened elite know everything, but they really don't. And yet, they disparage people on the base of class and we are reaping the whirlwind of that. I think we got to take a big step back. INGRAHAM: Yeah you are talking about the new editorial board member of "The New York Times," Sarah Jeong, who said among the most hateful things about white people, I guess, when you're not white, you say hateful things about white people, "The New York Times" will still hire you if you delete your tweets and say you're sorry. I'm for redemption, I think that's great, but wow. I mean I can imagine people tweeting other things that are more directed - - in favored conservatives, they would never hire them at "The New York Times." But he made a point -- HANSON: We don't know what the rules are. INGRAHAM: Yeah the rules are different -- we say the elites, it's not about where you go to school, it's the way you look down upon regular people. I see people at the Trump rallies, they don't go to fancy clothes stores and by the fancy clothes, certainly not like Paul Manafort does. They don't get the cool clothes. They don't speak in the same high influent terms of other people. But they're good people. And they think America is in trouble and I think Donald Trump has more answers than the in crowd. That's why they voted for him. They believe he fights for him. The media don't get that. So focusing on the media. Do you believe that they are giving the policies of this administration a fair analysis, Philippe? REINES: I do. And I think you are defining unfair as coming up with a negative outcome. That is assuming President Trump never makes any mistakes. INGRAHAM: No of course he does. I called him out for mistakes. REINES: You do it on immigration, all the time. I think the problem is, elite is code for looking down at someone. Soyboy. Calling someone a beta male. Low IQ. This is not one group looking down from a mountain saying the other group is scary. INGRAHAM: I think people get offended and they strike back. It's a bad cycle. REINES: You have 100 percent of the country angry as hell, and there's -- the media to some extent, is one of the ways to hash it out. And they have been neutered. You have been neutered. The same way you talk to your crowd, Jim Acosta talks to his crowd. INGRAHAM: But he's not an opinion journalist. I am. SCHLAPP: There's a difference. INGRAHAM: I'm not a reporter. I'm a commentator. I worked for the Reagan administration and I clerked for Justice Thomas. I don't pretend to be objective. I'm an opinion journalist but I think I'm fair and I think there are great reporters -- REINES: Reports have very little impact on fact and story, Sean Hannity has given single-handedly given incredible credence to some of the worst conspiracy -- INGRAHAM: First of all, if you're going to come on this network and attack FOX, Philippe -- we could do this for the whole hour -- REINES: I'm not (inaudible), I'm sitting here -- I think I'm -- INGRAHAM: -- conspiracy theories. You know what I think it is a conspiracy theory? Saying garbage people, jeering at another person, falsely accusing them, flip them off -- like Mark Caputo, who says the most horrific things, as a political reporter -- REINES: I don't know who he is -- INGRAHAM: Mark Caputo? REINES: No, this Sarah Jeong person -- INGRAHAM: Sarah Jeong is a new member of the board -- REINES: I think everyone has said things that they should regret, whether they do or not -- INGRAHAM: But I'm not -- these people are reporters. They are supposed to be calling balls and strikes, correct? REINES: And they are. INGRAHAM: They are? REINES: And when Sarah Sanders lies to them, they call it out. SCHLAPP: No, no no. Here's the thing. When Jim Acosta goes to a Trump rally -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, they're not though. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: We'll get you in there. SCHLAPP: These are Americans. This is the audience they are trying to get. He can see the hostility in how they cover things. Why doesn't CNN listen to what the American people want? Their ratings -- INGRAHAM: I think they would do better, actually, -- VDH, final thoughts. HANSON: The disinterested (ph) Shorenstein Center at Harvard give us a number of reports that 90 percent of the press coverage, this wasn't opinion journalism, was slanted anti-Trump. This idea on the one hand, the other hand, is really disingenuous. Whether we like it or not, the media is from a particular subset of American life and they feel like their odyssey and their journey to delegitimize this president and the people who support him for a variety of cultural and class reasons, and I'm not saying that Trump is an angel, but the coverage is not disinterested and to suggest it is, is really pathetic. INGRAHAM: All right, gentlemen, thank you so much and stay with us. We have an exclusive interview with White House insider Kellyanne Conway next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We are doing better in all of these states then we did on election night. (CROWD CHEERING) TRUMP: Much better. Despite the only negative publicity, only negative stories from the fakers back there -- I got along great with them. And everybody said, wow, that was great. A couple of hours later, I started hearing these reports that they wanted me to walk up -- here's a podium here -- they wanted me to walk up and go like this -- whatever happened to fair press? Whatever happened to honest reporting? These horrible, horrendous people. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well that was President Trump tonight in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania to discuss the president's relationship with the press and a lot of hot news. Let's bring one of our close friends, at least mine, for too many years to count, and the president's closest advisor, White House counselor Kellyanne Conway. Kellyanne, thank you so much for joining us tonight. We've been discussing the relationship with the press, and the crybaby response, which I think is feigned, phony moral outrage, the horrible things said about this president, the horrible types of violence at anti-Trump protests, and smashing windows, and beating people up who have a cap on that says make America great, but now the press is upset because some 70-year-old lady yells at Jim Acosta. I mean, I don't get it. KELLYANNE CONWAY, COUNSELOR TO PRESIDENT TRUMO: I thought Press Secretary Sarah Sanders handled it beautifully today when she really read a bill of particulars -- an entire litany of facts -- of things that have been said about her and some violence that has been incited against her, she is the only press secretary in U.S. history to hear her say it -- that needed bodyguards, needed secret service. I had secret service when I got there for much the same reason. Laura, I have a slightly different take on all of this. I know that it may be annoying, it may be irritating, and may be unfair, it may even be biased at times, it certainly is. But I am also not sure it's particularly relevant or consequential. The media is overall -- the approval rating is at 17 or 20 percent. I will give the range, I saw a low of 17, high of 20 percent in the latest. The president's approval ratings are ticking upward. And particularly on matters that are of the most consequence to the American people, like his handling of the economy, him trying to forge peace and prosperity around the globe. People know what they see and what they see are their bonuses, their raises, deregulation, the historic tax cuts, they have confidence in this economy, and they are spending more of their money. I was at that rally tonight with the president. I participated in the round table with him ahead time also. People are absolutely buoyant. They know that beginning with Hillary Clinton, they were referred to as irredeemable and deplorable, and looked down upon, they know that Barack Obama, when he was running for president, said these people who cling to their god and their guns -- he's had other things to say -- just always dismissing them, and this is why it is very important point. I'm not sure they care anymore. I speak to these people all the time. You know what they care about? The care they have a president -- INGRAHAM: Right. CONWAY: -- who respects and takes action daily for the military, for the veterans, and for them. And look, let's not mistake was going on here, too. A lot of these journalists have very expensive seven-figure contracts, go on late- night TV where they can yuk it up with others (ph) in similar situations (ph), and they can just laugh all day long, particularly about the women in the Trump administration, and then they can go and give speeches -- I mean, they speak for free every single day, and half the country doesn't want to listen to them. But then somebody pays them a lot of money to give speeches, so they are raking it in. Listen, Donald Trump is absolutely right. President Trump, Laura, is absolutely correct when he says nobody has been better for the media than him. Their ratings -- well certainly the revenues, the popularity -- INGRAHAM: But Kellyanne, I got to jump in here. When I talk to my radio listeners every day, I did nothing a couple of days ago, I said, tell me how the Trump economy is affecting your business, your family, don't sugarcoat it. If it's not working, I want to hear from you. I did this for three hours. Okay, three hours. People literally talking about truck drivers, salesman, people in medical devices -- you know what they say? People are happier. People are happier because they are not worried about waking up and saying, oh, my God, I will lose my job tomorrow. I was -- I knew the economy was great. But until you hear from the regular people, just saying, I don't know what these media are saying, everyone is unhappy, people are angry. People are happy because the economy is doing well. "The Hill" has a great piece today, Kellyanne, but other tariffs that are trashed by the media and the democrats, some of the democrats, the media getting that wrong, too. The tariffs are very popular with businessmen across the United States and they want more tariffs to level the playing field with China. So they are missing the story and it's going to your point. CONWAY: That's right. The president said today that China is way down now and he told everybody to be patient. Well Laura, I wanted to mention something else. Bias is not just -- or it doesn't come in the form of overtly, one- sided, lopsided reporting. That's kind of easy to detect. Bias is also a selectivity of what gets covered and what does not. So just this week you had the poll (ph) reporter from "The New York Times" say there was no news made when the president and Ivanka Trump and other office holders and high school students were in Tampa Bay at Tampa Bay Tech, so excited that the Perkins Legislation had been reauthorized, it's going to benefit upwards of 11 million students across this country. But no news was made. INGRAHAM: No, no no. You don't wanna cover that. No. CONWAY: Just today -- just today in the briefing room. This was so important. Just today in the briefing room, we had cabinet members come and talk about what they are doing in 2018 to stop meddling in interference in our elections -- INGRAHAM: Kellyanne, guess what happened? Not only did they not covered, Kellyanne, listen to what Chuck Todd said. Again, four, five top intel national security officials saying Russia meddled, we're going to stop it, but next time -- CONWAY: And that's what President Trump is doing. INGRAHAM: Right. And this is what Chuck Todd said. Let's listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHUCK TODD: We begin tonight by trying to make sense of what happened this afternoon, and perhaps more importantly, why? For some, it's going to take more than one surprise briefing to convince them that what we heard today about cracking down on Russia has the full backing of the president, and that it was not an effort by a White House communications team desperate to turn the page from the other headaches they had been asked about all week. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Kellyanne, your reaction to Todd's point? CONWAY: I want to say something. There's my reaction -- in 2016, the president at that time, Barack Obama and Clapper and Brennan and Comey and others on their team, had information that Russia was meddling, trying to interfere in our election, but they sat on it, they buried it because "I'm with her" also meant with I'm going to bury the information we have about meddling. Fast forward, this president is in charge, his entire team is on task. The security of homeland security said she's got a 50-state effort on way. They are investing cyber and election security. Secretary Nielsen and Vice President Pence two days ago were in New York City for all the public to see. The media hardly covered this entire conference on cybersecurity and election security. But for this mainstream media who, as you pointed out, covered the Russian story more than anything this calendar year, when it came to speaking from the podium about what this president's administration will do to stop it, to try to stop it, they are not covering it because it's not coming in the Manafort trial, it's not coming in the Mueller report, it's not coming out of the mouths of someone else. It's coming in a cohesive and positive fashion from this president, what he's going to do. So it's complete hypocrisy. Laura, if the mainstream media truly cared about election interference, they would be able to write a story or finish a sentence without mentioning Donald Trump's name. They can't do it. INGRAHAM: We are out of time. Thank you so much for joining us tonight. CONWAY: Thank you. I had fun in the rain, thank you. INGRAHAM: We'll continue to cover this and more. Stay there. INGRAHAM: The Democrats keep talking about blue wave this year, and once again they've labeled it the year of the woman. Wasn't that '92? Not so fast. According to a new poll by the "Independent Women's Voice," a candidate's gender makes no difference to 83 percent of likely 2018 voters. Joining me now to discuss this, make sense of it, Harmeet Dhillon, the RNC committeewoman from California, and Pam Hayes, a former Hillary Clinton campaign organizer. Great to see both of you. Let's start with you, Pam. Why should a person's sex matter in an election? I thought we were supposed to be away from labels and gender. The only thing that matters is merit in what you bring to the equation. So why are we now labeling the election a year of the woman? Why isn't this just the year of great issues? PAM HAYES, FORMER HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN ORGANIZER: I think it is the year of great issues. I don't know why it is being labeled the year of the woman. I just think that one reason why people were referring to it as the year of the woman is because you have more women candidates than ever before. So that would be one reason. I don't think people are just going out and saying, she wears a skirt, so I'm going to vote for her when her ideas are so far-fetched and they are different from mine. I don't people really do that. I just think that's just one of those tantalizing fact that pollsters do to make people come to their side of the equation. INGRAHAM: I want to play this Michelle Obama soundbite. This is from September of last year when she talked about the women who turned out for Donald Trump. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHELLE OBAMA, FORMER U.S. FIRST LADY: Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted against their own voice. What does it mean for us, for women, that we look at those two candidates, as women, and many of us said, that guy, he's better for me, his voice is more true to me? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Harmeet, again, it seems to look down on women who voted for Trump. If you vote for a conservative Republican, you are voting against your interests. But with this booming economy, every level of the economy is up, female employment, optimism, manufacturing, all of it up, up, up. How can you say that this year after all these results are already in? HARMEET DHILLON, ATTORNEY: Laura, they see it because they are out of ideas. They've got nothing. The year of the woman was 2016, by the way. It didn't work very well for the Democrats. They tried to use gender to catapult an otherwise bad candidate across the finish line and it didn't work. I am a woman business owner and I can tell you that woman or man, everybody who is a business owner or who works for a living looks at their 401(k), looks at their rising salary, looks at job competition from people who are not in the country who are not citizens, and everybody factors those things in. So it is very passe for leaders to say that women should be voting according to their lady parts, as opposed to with their brains, with their pocketbooks, and voting for their futures. Our party does need to do a good job, though, of defining those issues that all Americans care about, particularly people who have households caring about health care, they're caring about safety, and we can do a better job in Congress of making sure that we pass Obamacare, making sure that we get border security an those the issues like that. That is what women, that's what men care about. We all care about it. INGRAHAM: Pam. HAYES: That is what people care about, Laura. I don't think it is so much this gender focus as people want to make a statement. I think it's about the issues. And when I've got to worry about what is going to happen if, God forbid, something happens to my daughter and she's raped and you can even get a way to deal with that, that is a problem. INGRAHAM: When you say a way to deal with that, you mean -- DHILLON: Abortion, that is the word you are searching for. HAYES: Yes, that's what I mean, precisely. DHILLON: Why couldn't you say it? HAYES: Because I don't want to. I can say it the way I want to. INGRAHAM: Pam, so what you believe in this election cycle is that one of the preeminent issues on the minds of voters is the ability to get an abortion? You think that will be outlawed in the United States, all 50 states? And why do you think that? HAYES: I think it becomes dangerous when it's outlawed in some states. I think it should be a policy across the United States. INGRAHAM: For abortion? HAYES: I think it's a choice for women, for abortion. But that is not the top issue, at least for me, and I'm also -- INGRAHAM: It's not the top issue for any American. The top 10 issues, abortion, I don't think abortion is in the top 10, is it. HAYES: I don't think so, either, Laura. INGRAHAM: Why did you bring it up? HAYES: I brought it up because I wanted to make a point. INGRAHAM: What point? HAYES: And that's why I brought it up. INGRAHAM: I'm not finding it -- let me read you the comment from Hillary Clinton because we are talking about, there a lot of women candidates, and they are doing actually really well. The Democrats are fielding a lot of female candidates who are doing well so far in the pulling in a lot of open seats. To both of you, this is what Hillary Clinton said. She said "We do not well with white men and we do not do well with married white women. And part of that is an identification with the Republican Party and a sort of ongoing pressure to vote the way your husband, your boss, your son, whoever, believes you should." Pam, do you agree with what Mrs. Clinton said there? You read between the lines, you don't even have to read between the lines, is that these women are kind of stupid. They just vote the way their men want them to vote. HAYES: No, I don't think that the vast majority women are stupid and vote the way their men want them to vote. But I think there are some people who do that, just like there are women who might just vote for women because they are women. I think the issue is, what is of importance to the majority of people in America. For me, it's a pocketbook issue. I am a business owner -- INGRAHAM: So you should be for Trump. HAYES: No, I should never be for Trump. I have very serious issues with him. INGRAHAM: How is your business doing? HAYES: It's doing OK. It was doing better under George Bush. I'll put it like that. INGRAHAM: OK, was doing better under Obama? DHILLON: My business is doing great. HAYES: I don't have that type of business. I'm a lawyer. INGRAHAM: So is Harmeet, so am I, but I'm recovering. DHILLON: So am I. HAYES: Maybe I should get a job like yours. INGRAHAM: Harmeet, last word. DHILLON: Laura, the type of the candidates the Democrats are fielding in this election cycle are the extreme, unfortunately, these younger women who are standing for socialism, Ocasio-Cortez, women who are far left, women who want to abolish ICE, women who are open borders, women who are abortion extremists. And frankly, I don't think that message is going to resonate with the majority of the voters. The majority of voters are somewhere in the middle. And so I hope that I'm correct that these young women, attractive, good-looking candidates, aren't necessarily going to get a vote in November, but that depends on Republicans to field people with better ideas. INGRAHAM: I don't care what party you like or if you don't like Trump, you like Trump, you have to like this economy. If you don't like this economy, I can tell you this. It's not going to get better than it is right now. It might get marginally better, but this is a great time. If you want a job in the United States, I can't think in my lifetime of a better time to be an American citizen. We really appreciate both of you joining us. HAYES: I think it's a continuous flow. Actually, it wasn't bad with Obama. It wasn't bad. INGRAHAM: I didn't say it was bad. I said right now -- DHILLON: It's terrific now. INGRAHAM: It's a 4.1 GDP, taking China to task. I mean, this is a factual argument at this point. The American people give him very high marks on the economy, thankfully, about 55 percent, and that is a good thing. It's good for all Americans. Whoever was president presiding over these policies, these are good policies for the American people. I really appreciate both of you joining us tonight. Harmeet and Pam, thanks so much. HAYES: Thank you. INGRAHAM: And still ahead, Herman Cain on the brewing battle between the president and former president Obama, Glenn Greenwald on President Trump versus the old world order, also. Stay with us. INGRAHAM: You know that old saying, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. If the enemy is President Trump, it sure seems so. The neoconservative think tank American Enterprise Institute and the liberal Center for American Progress recently joined forces to publish a report blasting President Trump's foreign policy. That's a shock. You heard that right, President Trump has both sides of the swamp so riled up they are not collaborating. Joining me now for reaction, Glenn Greenwald, a journalist at the website "Intercept" who has written about the recent alliance between the Bush era neocons are liberals. Glenn, it is good to see you tonight. This is wild, but for us conservatives who took a step back after the Iraq War, said this is a mistake, we've got to be much smarter on military interventionism, I guess it is not all that surprising but it is just now out in the open, what we thought is now true. GLENN GREENWALD, JOURNALIST, "THE INTERCEPT": Yes, I think it is one of the most under-covered stories of the Trump era, this ideological shift. When I started writing about politics in 2005, the root of all evil for liberals was the American Enterprise Institute. John Yoo and Bill Kristol and the Kagans, Danielle Pletka. And these are the people who are now joining with the establishment wing of the Democratic Party to defend this very militaristic, internationalized, institutional assertion of military force which they see President Trump, in a lot of cases, rightly, as well as people on the left, as opposing. And this predates for Trump. A lot of neocons were preparing to support Hillary Clinton before Trump even became a candidate because they found her brand of hawkishness, she criticized Obama a lot for being insufficiently belligerent, quite attractive. And this shift is really quite profound. INGRAHAM: He's doing it in other ways, too. Trump has blown up a lot of old alliances. The Koch brothers, you are seeing that split. Richard Trumka, he's not ruling out supporting Trump in 2020. I think it is good to mix all this up. All these old alliances, didn't deliver that great a result, at least on foreign policy, and a mixed result vis-a-vis United States versus China on the economy, and Trump is like, well, I'll work with anybody who will work with me, and I guess his enemies are saying the same thing. GREENWALD: Absolutely. The view of Trump, for example, that I will meet with any leaders without preconditions was Barack Obama's flagship position in 2007 that horrified Hillary Clinton. And especially on these international trade agreements, like the World Trade Organization and NAFTA and TPP, opposition to those, which has become Trump policy, was orthodoxy on the left for a long time, and that, too, is driving the establishment wings of the Republican and Democratic Party's crazy because they are financed by the same banking interests, the same corporate interests, that love is globalized industries that have been terrible for the American worker but great for American hedge funds and banks. And that, too, is causing a remarkable shift in a lot of coalitions that I think will endure long after Trump is gone. INGRAHAM: I think the old order is forever disrupted. I don't think that is ever coming back, as much of the kick and scream. And speaking of unholy alliances, Glenn, I want to get your thoughts on something else. "The Intercept" has written about former "L.A. Times" writer and current NBC darling, intelligence reporter, Ken Dilanian. Tell us more about the relationship with the CIA and why we probably see him on TV so often, Dilanian as a "L.A. Times" reporter, and what he used to share with the CIA? GREENWALD: Well, it is really amazing because we at "The Intercept" did a FOIA request where we asked the CIA to turn over there communications with reporters which they can't refuse to do on national security grounds because they're communicating with journalists. And they turned over emails that had all kinds of communications between the CIA and Ken Dilanian where he would say, I'm about to report on you, here's the draft that I want to say. What do you guys think, what should I change? And we published all those emails, and lots of liberals said Ken Dilanian is the worst. He's a servant of the CIA. He got pushed out of the "L.A. Times," but ever since then he's kind of fell up the ladder, and he's now the star reporter at MSNBC and NBC, where that is all he does is just blindly and mindlessly repeat what the CIA tells them to say. He gives them anonymity, and he's essentially their puppet and their mouthpiece, and that is called journalism over at MSNBC. INGRAHAM: But he's an expert. They hauled him out as a real expert Brennan, Clapper, the whole crowd. And so he speaks with authority because he covered for that much time. But until you do that FOIA request, I don't think anybody, no one knew the backstory. GREENWALD: Yes, I think American journalism in general for a long time, it has been a critique of mine going back to the Bush years has been far too deferential to these intelligence operatives who operate in the dark. They give them anonymity. That was why we got the Iraq War. But I think Ken Dilanian take this horrible practice, and he is kind of the world champion of benefiting his own career by just acting as a stenographer for the intelligence community, and he has become a hero of Democrats and liberals who watch MSNBC because now the CIA, remarkably, is the agency that they venerate and revere more than anyone else, and therefore a journalist who is their spokesperson is kind of a TV star for them. It's really a remarkable and bizarre and surreal turn of events. INGRAHAM: Oh, my goodness. It's wild. Thanks so much, we really appreciate it. And by the way, President Obama is returning to the political fray in a big way. Herman Cain joins us next to break down the heavyweight matchup between Obama and President Trump. INGRAHAM: Former president Barack Obama is back in the political fray with endorsements for 81 Democratic candidates ahead of the midterms. Interestingly, though, he did not endorse Democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, or even Beto O'Rourke, Ted Cruz's challenger in Texas. Obama's political involvement didn't help Hillary Clinton get elected, but will it help Democrats in the midterms? And they miss him a lot. So joining me now with answers, FOX News contributor, former GOP presidential candidate himself, Herman Cain. OK, Herman, President Obama is a rock star for Democrats. They love him. You see all those bumper stickers, "I miss Barack," it's kind of sad. He seems to be having fun in retirement. But he's wading back in. Will this make a difference? HERMAN CAIN, FORMER GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: No. And that's because president -- former president Obama is a lightweight. He presided over the nation. President Donald Trump is a heavyweight. He's leading the nation. That is the difference. And if you compare the results side-by-side, even though President Trump isn't even two years into his leadership yet, the results are startling. So former president Obama's endorsement won't mean a thing in my opinion. Now the list of people that you said he endorsed that are Democrats, and the ones that he left out, here is the difference. He endorsed closet socialists, but he did not endorse open socialists. That is the difference, and I don't think it's going to make a difference. INGRAHAM: I think with the Democrats are trying to sell this time is you are undoing all the great progress of Barack Obama. Environmental regulations, that's going to be big in places like California. They are really going to sell the abortion issue, that we lose another seat on the court, we don't but a real roadblock in front of Trump, it's going to be goodbye to abortion and that is going to threaten women's reproductive health. You can hear it already building, but it's environmental, it's women, it's the animals. That is kind of where they are going. Clean air, clean water, he's going to poison your kids and your dog. CAIN: That is where they are going, Laura. But that dog ain't going to hunt. And I know from the people I listen to every day like you, the people there to support Donald Trump are not leaving Donald Trump. The Democrats that are believing this malarkey, some of them are believing it, but some of them are saying, maybe I need to take a second look. And here is what Donald Trump is really going to pick up ground, with the independent, correct thinking people in the middle. All of the noise that has been generated by the liberal noise chamber, the liberal news chamber, it's the narrow lens of the media. And as one of my callers said today, it feels like they are talking about the twilight zone. And that is exactly what they are talking about, because they are not talking about the America that you hear every day on your show, the people that I hear from every day, they are not listening to those. They are creating their own narrative that is not in touch with reality. You've got a lightweight, a former president, versus a heavyweight who is leading the nation, versus someone who was presiding over the nation. INGRAHAM: Herman, I want to get quickly your reaction to this other story that's causing liberals to go absolutely bonkers. AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka reportedly has not yet ruled out endorsing President Trump in 2020. Quick reaction? CAIN: The union leaders do this every election cycle to try and squeeze more out of the Democrats, the liberals, and the progressives. They would never do it, but they threaten it to see if they can squeeze a little bit more. INGRAHAM: All right, so you are not buying Trumka? CAIN: I'm not buying it. INGRAHAM: I knew I would get the truth from Cain. Thank you, Herman. When we come back, "The Vogue" will feature something coming up in September. You won't believe it, or maybe you will. INGRAHAM: We mentioned on the show how the thin, glossy magazines have completely ignored featuring Melania Trump, a woman known for her grace, sophistication, let's face it, she's gorgeous, her intellect, once again snubbed, this time from "Vogue's" vaunted September issue. But they are featuring a peculiar choice, porn star Stormy Daniels. That's right, "Huffington Post" telling us Annie Leibovitz taking the photo. It's just - it's so typical, so disappointing, but not surprising at all. Melania Trump, gorgeous, Stormy, well, god bless her. We have a great show on tap with Shannon Bream and the Fox News@Night team. They're going to take it from here. Load-Date: August 3, 2018 End of Document The Media's Relentless Anti-Trump Agenda; Trump Shreds Mueller Probe Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST August 1, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7407 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sebastian Gorka Guests: Sean Spicer, Joe diGenova Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Tucker, you have the patience of Job. Great show. (LAUGHTER) TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST, TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT: Thanks. I appreciate it. HANNITY: Welcome to "Hannity". It is one of the single most obvious examples, talk about Tucker and his groupthink, in American history. You have every single hour of every single day, week in, week out, now year in and year out, your mainstream media has dedicated its coverage to one thing, one thing only, maligning the president you elected, his agenda and everyone who dares to support them. Still, one professional Trump hater over at fake news CNN, Jim Acosta, is positively feigning outrage shock that Trump supporters didn't give him a warm welcome at yesterday's rally in Florida and Acosta is worried that Trump is whipping up hostility against the press. In moments, we are actually going to remind you and Acosta where all the violent rhetoric is really coming from in the country and it's not President Trump. And also tonight, the president is once again calling out Mueller's political witch hunt. Coming up, we will uncover the special counsel's Russia illusion. If we do have the very latest, day two of the Paul Manafort 2005 tax case and stay tuned for a very special mini monologue. Rush Limbaugh, 30 years, groundbreaking conservative talk radio. Here's a preview. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, RADIO TAL SHOW HOST: We have a special guest, who is it? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: So, Rush, I just wanted to congratulate you on 30 years. This is your favorite president and I think you are fantastic. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. It really is impossible, and I'm going to speak as a conservative, to imagine the last 30 years without Rush. We're going to have much more on that later in the program. But first, it's time for tonight's breaking news, jam-packed, buckle your seat belt opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Every night right here on this program, we show you example after example of the abusively biased coverage from the destroy- Trump media. Now, they have been predicting the end of the term presidency and that he wouldn't win anyway since his candidacy went down the escalator in 2015. Now, there have been zero in terms of objectivity, zero fairness, crisis peddling, mixed with a deranged blend of personal insults and anti-Trump bizarre conspiracy theories. It's why we call them the destroy-Trump press. Now, CNN's chief White House correspondent has been one of the worst offenders and the crowds at last night's Trump rally in Tampa, Florida -- well, they told him in person what they think of him and his network. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JIM ACOSTA, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: The White House has held only three briefings with the press this month and eight total since the end of May. There was no other way to describe what the White House is doing these days, Wolf. Top officials including the president are hiding from the press. And, Wolf, just to give you a sense as to what's happening right now, you can hear there is a chorus of boos and other chants in this Trump crowd here in Tampa, Florida, they are saying things like CNN sucks, go home and fake news. Wolf, obviously, all of those things are false. We are staying right here, we are going to do our job and report on this rally to all of our viewers here tonight, Wolf. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. This not the first time this happened and after what you just saw, Jim Acosta shared his fear of Trump supporters and he tweeted, quote, just a sample of the sad thing we faced at the Trump rally in Tampa. I am very worried that the hostility whipped up by Trump and some in conservative media will result in somebody getting hurt. We should not treat our fellow Americans this way, the press is not the enemy. Jim, I'm a pretty prominent conservative in the country. Let me say this clearly and loudly. I want every journalist in this country, everyone, I don't care who you work for, to be safe. And I'll tell you right now, I will be the first person to come to your defense if I'm there and anyone ever dares lay a hand on you. If I was standing there, if I see it happen, I will be the first person to jump in and fight on your behalf. Physical violence is never acceptable to me, nor is it acceptable to the conservatives I know and respect. And let me also be clear, if you are a conservative, and by the way, you ever threaten anyone, you're not a friend of mine, you're not a friend of this program, and by the way -- or the conservative movement of which I'm just a small part of. And with that said, many people's memories are really short. Remember Obama talked about getting in people's faces? Remember he said some guy named Mr. Burgess, we are going to send him to Sean Hannity so he can tear him up? Remember more recently we saw what happened to Sarah Sanders and her family thrown out of a restaurant? They followed her family to the next restaurant? Remember what happened to Pam Bondi and Secretary Nielsen? Well, let's go down memory lane. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I was asked to leave a restaurant this weekend where I attempted to have dinner with my family. My husband and I quietly left and went home. I was asked to leave because I worked for President Trump. PAM BONDI (R), FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Three huge guys came up and started, probably an inch from my face, screaming at me every word in the book, cursing as loud as they could. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen is in a Mexican restaurant of all places, the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) goal! Shame on you! CROWD: Shame, shame, shame! (INAUDIBLE) ELAINE CHAO, TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY: You leave my husband alone! Back up! (INAUDIBLE) (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, Jim, I have a question, did you ever pick up the phone, did you call Sarah Sanders? Did you call Pam Bondi? The secretary of state in Florida, did you call Secretary Nielsen after their run out of places publicly in a violent -- what looked like could become a violent situation, if you did, by the way, good for you. On this program, we called out bias, we will do so as long as I'm allowed the honor to be here every night. We show the clips of the media, at their very worst moments. We tell our viewers to turn the channel if they don't like our coverage. But we don't support boycotts. We don't demand firings. We don't support violence of any kind, nor will we ever. That's not inciting violence by giving an honest critique. It's called telling the truth. And just because people chant "fake news" doesn't mean they would support any kind of violence in any way and, of course, there's plenty of bad rhetoric on a lot of sides of the aisle. Your network in particular, others in the mainstream media, you're not exactly telling the full story about things to the American people and I see abusive bias every single day. You largely ignored the nasty rhetoric against Melania Trump. Many glossed over the scary rhetoric about Ivanka Trump, the president's young son Baron, even his 4-year-old granddaughter, the president's granddaughter. And you totally seem to have forgotten the overwhelming amount of violent rhetoric against President Trump himself. What did you say during these moments? Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: And with this kind of inspiration, I will go and take Trump out tonight. MADONNA, SINGER: Yes! I have thought an awful lot of blowing up the White House. JOHNNY DEEP, ACTOR: When was the last time an actor assassinated a president? I want to clarify, I'm not an actor. I lie for a living. However, it's been a while and maybe it's time. ROBERT DE NIRO, ACTOR: How dare he say the things he does. Of course I want to punch him in the face. JOY BEHAR, THE VIEW: Right. Yes. JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: The press always asked me, don't I wish I were debating him? No, I wish we were in high school I could take in behind the gym? That's what I wish. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So, where is the fear, the worry, the concern about all of this rhetoric against the president? Now do you think what you just saw is a little bit worse than being heckled at a rally? Because I do. But there's plenty of more examples of these crisis peddlers in the news media today doing whatever they can do every minute, hour, second of every day to discredit President Trump and his supporters. Now, the media in this country, they cannot stand the president's common sense conservative agenda. They can't stand that he's actually keeping his promises. They clearly don't like the Trump tax cuts because that means it's -- well, less of an opportunity for Democrats to get power back. His peace through strength policies with North Korea, Iran and elsewhere seems to scare them, ending a horrible Iranian deal -- no, this president is not bringing piles of cargo planes in cash and other currencies and giving them it to mullahs in Iran that threaten to destroy us, and also negotiating with foreign countries. Well, he's trying to get better trade deals, he gets criticized for that. Obviously, the success is not something that's reported on often and, by the way, it seems that many in this country want this president to fail because if he fails, then that means Democrats can get back in power. I even think if President Trump cured cancer at this point, many in the media, many on the left would still hate him. It's a prime reason why the media is so obsessed with Mueller's partisan witch hunt. They want to see this president impeached. They have been trying to attack his credibility since he's been elected. Earlier today, the president's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, called for Mueller to finally begin to wrap this up. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ATTORNEY: We believe that the investigation should be brought to a close. We think they are at the end of it. They should render their report, put up -- I mean, I guess, if we were playing poker right now, put up and shut up, what do you got. We have every reason to believe they don't have anything. The president hasn't done anything wrong. They don't have any evidence he did anything wrong. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And today on Twitter, the president himself called on the Attorney General Jeff Sessions to end this investigation. He tweeted out, quote: This is a terrible situation. The attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now before it continues to stain our country any further. Bob Mueller is totally conflicted and his 17 angry Democrats that are doing his dirty work are a disgrace to the U.S. And then the president continued: Russian collusion with the Trump campaign, one of the most unsuccessful in history, is a total hoax. The Democrats, they actually paid for the phony, discredited dossier which was, along with Comey, McCabe, Strzok and his lover, the lovely Lisa Page, used to begin the witch hunt. Very disgraceful. By the way, the dossier had phony lies and FISA judges were lied to. Now, if you can believe it, many in the media, they're now saying President Trump actually obstructed justice because he tweeted out his opposition to all that has happened with no evidence and criticizing what is a witch hunt. In other words, telling the truth. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's basically sort of delegitimizing our system of government. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Maybe this is the beginning of a new Saturday Night Massacre, and one has to wonder whether Mr. Trump is feeling the pressure of the Manafort trial. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It looks like he may very well have obstructed justice in this particular case. That's why I find it particularly ironic that he seems to be, you know, continuing to try to obstruct and end this case so publicly. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are starting to feel the collusion investigation closing in a little bit more. We are getting Donald Trump's most overt and obstructionist tweets to date. It's not a surprise. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just around this little incident will be a strong mini case of obstruction. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Crisis to crisis, feigned, phony, moral outrage every second. Just another example of what is groupthink in action. And it's the same reason the mainstream media has been telling you that the trial of Paul Manafort on a 2005 tax case is the trial of the century, and, of course, it is anything but. Manafort worked for then candidate Trump I think less than 100 days. The charges that Manafort is now facing have nothing to do with Trump, nothing. Nothing to do with the campaign, zero. Nothing to do with Russia, zero. Nothing about collusion. Still, Manafort is facing serious time in prison if convicted and the success rate by the way for federal cases is really high, 95, 98 percent. That means this is an uphill battle when the full force of the federal government is going after any American, in this case Paul Manafort. The judge overseeing the trial, T.S. Ellis III, he's not cutting the Mueller team any slack and before Manafort's proceeding even started he accused Mueller and his team -- imagine a judge saying this to the special counsel. This isn't about Paul Manafort. This isn't about a tax case. You want to tighten the screws on Paul Manafort. You want to make him sing and provide dirt against President Trump or compose -- meaning what do I need to say to get out of trouble so you can prosecute or impeach Donald Trump. This case is about a 2005 tax case. Nothing to do with Trump, nothing to do with Russia, nothing to do with collusion and the only reason there is all of this media coverage is because he worked for then candidate Trump for less than 100 days. And according to accounts from inside the courtroom, Judge Ellis even interrupted Mueller's team of prosecutors in their opening statement because Paul Manafort made money in his life and was living a lavish lifestyle, telling the jury it's not a crime to be rich in America and telling them to move on. The judge also chastising the prosecution over the word "oligarch". And now, one more blow for the special counsel, their star witness, Rick Gates. Well, they are saying he may not testify now. By the way, what have they offered Gates? I said last night, Sammy "The Bull" Gravano killed 19 people, doesn't spend a day in jail because they used him to testify against, what, John Gotti Sr.? And then they get him a home in the witness protection program in Arizona? Are we not beginning to have a problem with the way they work the system? I have no idea what Paul Manafort did or didn't do in 2005 to 2007. I didn't know him. But I do know that this trial is only happening because Robert Mueller is desperate to get President Trump. He wanted Manafort to sing or compose. He's desperate to find something, anything on the president. It doesn't matter it seems what toll this is all taking on our country. And you talk about language, you talk about the feeling of threats. Jim Acosta, you're not the only one. I had a president of the United States not that long ago telling somebody to, you know, first get in people's faces and then he's going to send somebody to tear me up. The president -- did President Trump ever say this about you? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: I'll put -- I'll put Mr. Burgess up against Sean Hannity. He'll tear him up. I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to `em whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Get in their face. That's worse than chanting fake news? Tear up Sean Hannity? What about Maxine Waters says, follow him into the grocery store, wherever she said to follow people, or Cory Booker? Joining us now, author of "Why We Fight", FOX News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka, author of the brand-new book, a best seller, "The Briefing: Politics, Press and the People", former White House press secretary, had the worst job in America, now Sarah Sanders sadly has it. Why anybody wants that job to deal with these people every day is beyond me? Congrats, Sean, on the book. Their memories are short, because what happened to Pam Bondi and Secretary Nielsen, what happened to Sarah Sanders is recent. The things that have been said about the president's son are fairly recent and his granddaughter are recent. The things said about Melania, Ivanka and so many others that are close to the first family. I don't remember Jim Acosta as the great champion standing up for the first family or calling them -- would love to know if you recall them and said, I'm so sorry for what you've been through. SEAN SPICER, "THE BRIEFING" AUTHOR: Well, Sean, look, I'm on a book tour right now and they love playing clips about me getting heckled and intimidated. They think it's funny and amusing. So, look, I would associate my comments with your opening monologue. We have a country that allows people to express themselves freely and that's what makes our country great. But at the same time, I agree with you. There's -- we need a free and fair press that is robust, but it should never, ever be under attack with intimidation or violence. If Jim Acosta has a problem with some of the ability of people to express themselves, he should look at his own unprofessional and disrespectful behavior. Look in the mirror and wonder whether he's part of the problem. We should never be threatening anybody with violence. But it's interesting how he's only concerned with himself and his colleagues as opposed to the violence that has come against the right, people like myself, Sarah, Secretary Nielsen and others. I want to go out there and have a book to talk about, to exchange ideas with people. HANNITY: And also, we played what's happening. (CROSSTALK) SPICER: And they don't seem to worry about that sort of intimidation and that sort of disruption. It's only when it affects him. HANNITY: Did Jim Acosta ever call you about the heckling that you received? SPICER: No, he was part of it. His unprofessional and disrespectful behavior is part of the problem. What -- the way he treated the president the other day in that Rose Garden was disgraceful. He owes the president an apology. It is not his question that he is entitled to. It is the president to give it to him. And as much as people may not -- HANNITY: Let me be very clear -- this is important because I've had the same experience. Every conservative I know has had the same experience. I don't come on TV and whine that I have been heckled or people have tried to physically get to me or that my life has been threatened and that I've had people, you know, literally threatened my life, it's happened more often than I care to exist, it's wrong. I think -- but it's not the same as chanting "fake news" and "CNN sucks" and people have a right to freedom of speech, whether it's against Sean or me or, Dr. Gorka, I'm sure you've experienced it as well. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: O have I ever. I have to give my colleague Sean all the recognition. He was on the front line on the podium. But I was in the press briefing room. I`d sneak in and from the back I would watch. And, Sean, Jim Acosta thinks it's his briefing room. I mean, he really thinks it's the Jim Acosta show. And it's not. It's the White House briefing room. He's got it backwards. Two metrics, just to metrics for both of you and for the viewers -- go back 20 years. Go back 40 years and find for me when the White House press corps salivated over a Republican president. You won't find it. You won't find the hagiography. HANNITY: We'll take it a step further and I said this and I'll go back and pull the tape, many, many times when Barack Obama was president. We must keep our politicians safe and I'm telling -- look, we are the highest rated show in cable, thanks to this audience. I -- if I am there, will -- I will be the first person to defend anybody in the press if anyone would dare to lay a hand on them. But chanting "you suck" is not the same as violence. People have a right to speak in this country. SPICER: It's not just the price, if any American. No American should feel threatened to share their voice and their opinion, no American. HANNITY: We give you the last word, Dr. Gorka. GORKA: But Republican politicians have never said harass the other party, get in their faces. It's only the left, it's only the Democrats and they need to get a grip on their party before things get worse, Sean. HANNITY: I challenged Jim to maybe talk to those people that threw poor Sarah Sanders out of the restaurant and Pam Bondi and Secretary Nielsen and they did have somebody that worked at his network that had a severed head. I know she got fired of the president that his 12-year-old son saw. So, let's start with ourselves. Anyway, when we come back, we got a lot of breaking news tonight. Big news out of the White House about the back-and-forth between the Trump's -- the president's legal team, Robert Mueller. Joe diGenova is on fire. He's next, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. There's been a lot of back-and-forth today about Robert Mueller wanting to interview President Trump. Here with the very latest from the White House is our own Kristin Fisher. Kristin, what's going on? KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Sean, for months, one of the biggest questions has been, you know, will President Trump agree to sit down with special counsel? We know that he's wanted to, but that his legal team has been advising him against it and now, tonight, there is even more reason for his legal team to advise him against it because Robert Mueller is refusing to accept one of their key demands, to limit questioning during their face-to-face interview to matters of collusion. Mueller wants to open it up to obstruction of justice among some other topics. Now, earlier in the day, the president described the ongoing investigation as a, quote, "terrible situation", and Attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now. Well, Democrats like Adam Schiff say the statement was an attempt to obstruct justice hiding in plain sight. But the White House says that the president wasn't ordering his attorney general to do anything. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SANDERS: The president is stating his opinion. He stating it clearly and he is certainly expressing the frustration that he has with the level of corruption that we have seen from people like Jim Comey, Peter Strzok, Andrew McCabe. (END VIDEO CLIP) FISHER: Now, the president's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani is telling FOX News that his inclination is still to say no to an interview but that President Trump wants him to continue talking to the special counsel. So, Sean, tonight, the negotiations about this potential interview with a special counsel continue -- Sean. HANNITY: All right. Kristin at the White House tonight, thank you. Joining us now with reaction, he is a former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Joe diGenova. A quick note, he has done legal work for me. He showed up at my Christmas party and he drank way too much. And I paid for the drinks. Anyway, good to see you, my friend. I have -- I am very skeptical of any, any concession to this team of prosecutors that Robert Mueller has put together, looking at the -- what Judge Ellis said about what they're really doing in the Manafort case. I don't trust them. JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA: Well, there's no question that the Mueller investigation is illegitimate in the sense that Rod Rosenstein should have never appointed Mueller, who had a conflict of interest. He was interviewed for the FBI director and the next day he was appointed special counsel. Rod Rosenstein is either a witness or a coconspirator in the case if there is an obstruction because of the firing of James Comey. Rosenstein should have never made the appointment. He shouldn't be involved. He approved one of the FISA warrants and more to come on that in the next few weeks, by the way. But here's the point. If the president should not be interviewed by these people, his attorneys should obviously, and I know they will do everything they can to advise him not to do an interview. This is an illegitimate investigation. It's a perjury trap even though the president cannot be indicted for anything. The problem is this is an effort to use the grand jury process for impeachment purposes. That is an unconstitutional use for the grand jury and they should fight it. If the president refuses to testify and if Bob Mueller issues a subpoena, the president will win the Supreme Court. It's just -- it's unacceptable to allow the president to waste his time and to play into this phony game that Mueller is playing. It's outrageous. HANNITY: Under any circumstances, Joe, would you -- and the president has very good attorneys. We are both mutual friends of Jay Sekulow. DIGENOVA: Great attorneys, great attorneys. HANNITY: Emmet Flood is a rock star. Giuliani -- we know what Rudy Giuliani is as a lawyer, what he was like as a prosecutor. DIGENOVA: Yes. HANNITY: He took down some of the toughest people in New York, in the Southern District of New York. The question is, I agree it's illegitimate. By the way, look at Manafort. Would Paul Manafort be on trial today if he didn't work for Trump for 100 days on a 2005 tax case nothing to do with Russia? Why isn't Hillary indicted by this time when we know she committed numerous felonies? DIGENOVA: Well, Sean, you know, one of the great lessons from this entire affair is that there were two standards of justice now in the United States. And they are both being applied by the FBI and the DOJ. If you're a Democrat, you get a pass. If you're a Republican, you don't. I never thought -- HANNITY: Do we have to accept that? Do we have to accept that? DIGENOVA: No, we do not. I never thought I would hear myself say those words, but I have never been more disgusted with my alma mater at the Department of Justice under Rod Rosenstein and the FBI under Chris Wray, two incompetent empty suits who care about one thing, their own future, their next job and what they have done to put this country through, Rod Rosenstein has put this country through over the last 18 months, may he rot in hell for it. It's disgusting. And what you just said, that they can sit there with a straight face and say that there's no reason to reopen the Hillary case as Jeff Sessions has said is absolutely ludicrous and incompetent. SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: You know, you have said on this program that before. You've used the term dirty cop. I have this instinctive recoil for one reason. I had a family full of cops. DIGENOVA: Yes. HANNITY: And my mom was a prison guard and my dad was a family court probation guy. And two people that reach deity were in the FBI. This does not rank and file. (CROSSTALK) DIGENOVA: The street guys-- HANNITY: This is a dangerous chapter in our history. DIGENOVA: The street guys and gals are great. It's the rot it's from the head of the fish in DOJ and FBI. HANNITY: All right. Joe DiGenova, thank you. When we come back, the king of talk radio, Rush Limbaugh this very day literally started radio syndication on the airwaves. A mini monologue coming up and I want to explain what would life has been like for this country without Rush on the air for 30 years? We will explain straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Thirty years ago today Americans had few options for political commentary, the news of the day. Journalism was decidedly one- sided. Network news along with the print media, they were the kings of all information in America. That all changed 30 years ago this day, 1988. It changed forever. A man from a small town called Cape Girardeau, Missouri kicked off a brand- new national radio program. It gave a voice to the millions of conservatives in this country that have been ignored, impugned, their values diminished for so long. In doing so, he started what would now become a new media revolution in this country, one that radically would permanently alter the media landscape in America and, by the way, paved the way for people like me, the great one Mark Levin, Laura Ingraham, and so many others. Well tonight we're celebrating 30 years of the Rush Limbaugh show. The pioneer of conservative talk radio. That's tonight's mini monologue. Thirty years ago today, August 1st, 1988, the Rush Limbaugh show kicked off nationally on 56 radio stations around the country. The show was radically different from anything else on the airwaves at the time. Now for decades all Americans -- we were force-fed. We got our information, commentary, news, from the decidedly one-sided left-wing leaning traditional mainstream media. But with a very clear, funny, fun, refreshing informative conservative perspective Rush build what was a desperately need void in the country and he gave voice to millions of us. Now Rush has syndicated nationally on more than 600 of America's best radio stations heard by more than 27 million people every week. And as it turns out, time flies when you're a kind of spearheading an entire movement and an entire new genre of media. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: They said what are you best at? And I said probably being on the radio. Well, there's your answer. Do what you are best at and you will at least be happy regardless of how well you do it, so I decided to give radio one more chance. I'm sure you all felt like you weren't going to ever amount to anything, even though you knew you were capable. I felt that way. The only difference between you and me is that I'm up here and you are out there. And the only reason I'm up here is because you are out there. You have rejuvenated my life and you have made me something I never even thought I could be and I have just one thing to say to you, a sincere and heartfelt thank you. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And media was forever changed. Here's the question I want to throw out tonight. What would America be like without Rush, without talk radio? But without Rush on the air for the last 30 years. Without a doubt he has now had a massive impact decade after decade, year in and year out. The doctor of democracy is the single most influential voice in the early '90s holding the corrupt Clintons accountable, playing a vital role in the historic Republican midterm resurgence. Newt Gingrich coming to power 1994. Now he pushed for America's tough response after 3,000 of our fellow Americans were slaughtered on 9/11, 2001. He was a leading voice for the Tea Party move me in 2010. He was one of the only people that were warning against Obama's radical left-wing ideology, an agenda rightly predicting that those policies would fail. Recently he has been a steadfast powerful voice for what is the working Trump agenda, the conservative agenda and you see the dividends every day. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LIMBAUGH: Donald Trump is like anybody else would be. He won the presidency. He won the presidency against all odds. He resents deeply this idea that anybody helped him, particularly the Russians. You people in the media are nuts if you think Donald Trump is going to go along with us. That's not who he is. Republicans and Democrats, but it's basically people who are pro- government, pro-Washington who think government in Washington is the center of the world. They'll give -- they'll give occasional mentions of these things that you mentioned, these policies to placate voters, but going back to an original question you have here. They don't want Trump to succeed. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: On today the 30th anniversary of his syndication, well, he got a call from a pretty special surprise guest. Let's listen in. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Rush, I just wanted to congratulate you on 30 years. This is your favorite president and I think you are fantastic. And I heard about it and today is the big day. Thirty years. I wanted to call personally and congratulate you. LIMBAUGH: I am floored. I thought there was nothing anybody could do to surprise me today. I've been preparing for anything. Mr. President-- (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: You are a very special man, Rush, and you have people that love you. I'm one of them. But you are a very, very special guy. What you do for this country, people have no idea how important your voice is. So I just wanted to personally make this one and I said I'll even dial the number myself if I have to, but I just want to congratulate you, 30 years in that tough business is incredible. And you are stronger now than ever before. LIMBAUGH: Well, I thank you so much. It's such a thrill to hear from you. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: My friend Neil Boortz has also a talk show, once referred to Rush as the Babe Ruth of talk radio. He was right. And during his call with Rush today the president also brought up how often I call him the dean of talk radio. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: You know, people don't realize what a great achievement 30 years is in that cutthroat business that you happen to be in. You know, you may not find that because you are so good at what you do but as a cutthroat business. And for you to do this for 30 years is truly an amazing accomplishment. And there's no voice like it and even your friend Hannity agrees with that. He said there's nobody like this man, so I said, no geez, I guess I thought you two would be competitive. He said no, he's the dean. LIMBAUGH: No way. TRUMP: He called you the dean. LIMBAUGH: No way. He's a guest host. He guest hosted for me when we first started. TRUMP: I know. He's great and he's a big -- he's a tremendous fan of yours. They all are, everybody is. So I just want to congratulate you, 30 years -- just do it for another 30 years. After that you can take it easy, OK? LIMBAUGH: I will do that. I will stay around as long as you do. TRUMP: OK, you have a deal. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That's a pretty good deal. But you know what, it is a competitive business but people like myself, the great one Mark Levin, Laura Ingraham and most people that work in talk radio, we all understand that he forged the path for all of us. Here's the big question though. I personally -- you think back the last 30 years, think about America today without Rush's voice, that booming conservative voice for 30 years. His unwavering commitment to conservative ideology, philosophy, frankly his wonderful warm sense of humor, his outrageous humor, his steadfast love of country. He has literally given this country insightful commentary decade after decade and it has changed the media landscape in this country forever. As he -- he led the way forging a path. Like earlier pioneers, like Terry Williams and Barry Farber, Bob Grant, all these guys some outrageous controversial, some not. We get to do what we do today because he single-handedly opened up a whole new market place. He had the courage of his convictions. He paved the way for a new media in a political revolution. And the fact, for example, you are watching me right now is in part because of these great pioneers, courageously forging that path. The audacity to stand up versus the status quo. He took a lot of heat. He stood for honest conservative great American values. They have tried again and again to take him down and they take it just like they try to take Mark, Laura, me down whenever they can. But here we are, we are blessed and we are better off as a country. The media has some diversity because of his life's work. So Rush, on behalf of me, Mark, Laura, conservatives everywhere, millions of us, thank you. Congratulations. Thirty great years of broadcast excellence. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh's brother, author, attorney, friend, David Limbaugh and he has done legal work for me and went to a party with me. Good grief, I have to say that every time. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Here with a reaction to my mini monologue tonight it's Rush's brother, author, columnist, David Limbaugh. Mr. Limbaugh, sir, you were there for the whole time. Your brother took a lot of -- along the way. It's not easy when your -- I think he shocked the country when he first came on the air. May be similar to the iconoclastic nature of Trump in a way in the reaction, the feigned outrage, the daily Rush, Rush, Rush. it's not easy to take all of that in coming. DAVID LIMBAUGH, AUTHOR & ATTORNEY: Yes. Rush has been the tip of the sphere and he has paved the way for conservatives. He mainstreamed conservative thought in America and was finally the answer to the liberal media monolith. And so what I think what he did is validated millions of conservatives who are sitting out in America listening to the radios and the TV shows and never having their opinions articulated and they were so frustrated wondering are they odd? They talk to people at the store, they talk to people in their walk of life for the same as they are but they don't hear any of these ideas being articulated in the national media. Finally, Rush broke through and gave them a voice. And you mentioned -- you asked how America would have been different had he not burst on the scene. I shudder to think what would have happened by now with the avalanche of media -- liberal propaganda in the universities and in the culture. Rush has answered it back and he's given the voice to the rest of it. It's been a wonderful thing. HANNITY: You know, look, you would know more than I would, it had to be hard at times because I see it -- anyone in this business now, me, Laura, Mark, Rush, anybody. They -- there is an industry where millions of dollars are being spent monitoring all of us in the hopes that we say one word, one phrase, one sentence to get us fired and attack our advertisers, get us off the air. Whatever happened to the left believing in freedom of speech and expression of thought? Is it that they are that intimidated? D. LIMBAUGH: Well, they don't believe in it. They haven't ever believed in it. And they mouth these ideas about tolerance and wanting us to get along and kumbaya harmony but the truth is when they hear someone disagreeing with them, especially someone articulate and popular and has a sense of humor it has the audacity to lampoon in a national medium, they couldn't take it so they wanted to shut him down. And they fund these organizations dedicated to destroying him and making things up about him. And now the same kinds of-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, they gave millions. D. LIMBAUGH: -- outlets have gone after you. HANNITY: Millions of dollars. D. LIMBAUGH: Yes. And they make things up, they exaggerate, they take things out of context and Rush has had to single-handedly fight back these people as he has paved the way for thousands, literally thousands of other people who have been generated from his example. You are one of them, as you have said, and he has shown the way, but in the beginning it was lonely. HANNITY: Yes. D. LIMBAUGH: He was out there and he was on talk radio and no one was there to defend him, no one was there to fund his defense of himself, but he has truly inspired so many people to speak up and to get in his medium and it's really been a wonderful thing. HANNITY: Interesting side note. Thank you, David, for joining us. When he started in '88 there were like 200 talk radio stations in the country. Now there are thousands and it's the number one format in radio. Amazing. Thanks for being with us. All right. Joining us now with more reaction to our other top stories, Mueller's witch hunt. The New York Times -- now I feel sorry for Judge Jeanine because I'm friends with you. And last week she was number one on the New York Times best seller list. This week it's you and she is two. How great is that for the Fox News Channel, "The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump" now officially the number one New York Times bestseller. Gregg Jarrett, many congratulations. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Thank you. HANNITY: Sara Carter. Let's go to the Manafort trial today and you are both following it very closely, which wouldn't be happening. It has to do with Russia if this poor guy didn't work for Trump for 100 days. JARRETT: Yes. You know, it was not a good day for prosecutors. You know, once again they were verbally spanked by the judge. And it just shows how devious and malevolent Mueller's prosecutors are trying to smear and convict Paul Manafort simply because he's wealthy. The judge would have none of it. He told them not in my court. It's not a crime to be rich. So they switched tactics and guilt by association because he did business with what they referred to as oligarchs and the judge stopped them and said you can't use that term in my courtroom. And that connotes and conjures up criminality and corruption. But the biggest surprise today is the prosecutors indicated they are not going to call Manafort's partner to the witness stand, Rick Gates, who is the star witness, the snitch who they now realize will be pilloried as a liar and a crook and an embezzler and bribed by the government for leniency. HANNITY: You know, this is the amazing thing. Gates can't now be the witness, Sara. It seems like the prosecution is saying, but they gave him a deal. This is what I was bringing up with Gregg and you guys last night. So if you are going to give Salvatore "Sammy the Bull" Gravano who committed 19 murders, no jail time at a house in Arizona, I think you'll say anything they want you to say. I don't trust anybody that gets a deal. (CROSSTALK) SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Like he said-- HANNITY: I don't trust anybody. CARTER: Well, that's right and that's why Ellis was saying you want him to compose -- you want him to come up with something, some kind of story that you could use against the president and that's not what we do here. And that's why he slammed them hard today. The prosecution. And you know something else, Sean, something that came up today that I think is really significant. We've already seen a year of exposing the Department of Justice and the FBI, those high-level officials. We've seen a culture of corruption there and now Mueller, you know, now wants to question the president on obstruction. That's the story. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So they allow that? CARTER: Absolutely not. And let me say something else. If he wants to question the president on obstruction he should also question Rod Rosenstein, who by the way, wrote the letters to have Comey fired. And if that's the case then Rod Rosenstein-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Exactly. And sign the last FISA warrant. CARTER: Exactly. He used to recuse himself. HANNITY: All right. Last word, Gregg, because we are running out of time. he shouldn't -- why would he ever sit down? It's an illegitimate investigation. JARRETT: No. It's a total perjury trap and Mueller is not really authorized to question a president exercising his constitutional authority. That's forbidden. HANNITY: All right. Congrats, Gregg again on the number one book. Sara is writing a book, we'll tell you about soon. When we come back, tonight, Vice President Pence receiving the remains of U.S. service members from the Korean War. And the president made that agreement in Singapore. HANNITY: Earlier today, the Vice President Mike Pence he was at Joint Base Pearl Harbor to receive what we believed to be the remains of American service members killed during the Korean War. The remains were returned as part of that historic agreement, last month between the president and the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un. And here is some of what the vice president had to say. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MICHAEL PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We are gathered here at this honorable carry ceremony to receive 55 flag-draped cases, which we trust include the remains of American heroes that fell in the Korean War. Some have called the Korean War the forgotten war. But today, we prove these heroes were never forgotten. Today, our boys are coming home. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: It reminds us of the sacrifice of all of those in the service so we can live free. We pray for them and their families tonight. All right. We are out of time. We'll always be fair and balanced. Let not your heart be troubled because Laura Ingraham is back in D.C. tonight. Good. Back in the swamp. Load-Date: August 2, 2018 End of Document Paul Manafort Criminal Trial Commences; Netflix Rescinds Release of Documentary about Louis Farrakhan; Dinesh D'Souza Releases Documentary Film; New Report Examines Illegal Immigrants' Ability to Register to Vote and Cast Ballots. Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST August 1, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8268 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Solomon Wisenberg, Alan Dershowitz, Raymond Arroyo, Dinesh D'Souza, Michelle Malkin Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Let not your heart be troubled because Laura Ingraham is back in D.C. tonight. Good, back in the swamp, in the sewer. INGRAHAM: By the way, I charge my dinner last night at Frisco's to you. Is that OK? Put it on my tab. HANNITY: Everybody else did, don't worry. That happens regularly. Don't worry about at. INGRAHAM: I was like, it's on Hannity -- can we have the silver oak 2002, please? They kind of gave me an -- HANNITY: You are so mean. I would have gladly paid. Next time tell me. You don't have to steal it, you're like a liberal stealing stuff, you want free stuff. INGRAHAM: Hannity, what can I say? Hey, congrats on the July ratings, number one. Congrats, man. HANNITY: And congrats to you killing it at talk 10:00, and Tucker's killing it. I'm proud to be part of this team. I'm like a bridge between two generations of FOX. On the old man. INGRAHAM: Oh no. What does that mean? Nice try. Great show tonight, Sean, as always. HANNITY: Have a a great show. INGRAHAM: I'm Laura Ingraham. This is INGRAHAM ANGLE back in Washington, D.C., as Sean said. What an exciting show we have for you this evening. Great guests, including an unbelievable twist in the Mueller investigation. We'll tell you why Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama suddenly have a new connection to it. Plus, our "seen and unseen" segment, Raymond Arroyo digs into some utterly bizarre trends among all millennials and Hillary Clinton's expansion into TV. Also a disturbing report on how easy it may be for non-U.S. citizens to register to vote and then cast a ballot. Michelle Malkins joins us for what it means in the upcoming election. But first, the defenders of lawlessness. That is the focus of tonight's ANGLE. If you want to see just how radical, how extreme democrats have become an immigration, check out the freaks at their anti-ICE protests. The siege at the ICE building at Portland, Oregon, started June 17th and continues today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Protesters even followed them home to their residences, followed them when they went to pick up their kids at day care. Repeatedly threatening their lives. This was an absolute siege of an ICE facility. A lot of people don't know this. This really isn't getting covered in the mainstream media. We lost that building for ten days, almost two weeks. The protesters took control of that building. Again, these were not normal protesters. Folks like ANTIFA, violent, militant groups. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: You know what? You haven't seen the media coverage of that aspect of it. We're going to get into more in just a moment, we have new information for you tonight. To top it all off, Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler shot down the terrified ICE officers calls for help. Saying that police would respond to them, "when there were eminent life safety threats." OK. And last week, Wheeler told the demonstrators to peacefully disengage for their own safety. Heck with the safety of the ICE employees. This is totally out of control. And it is backfiring big-time on the democrats. A recent Reuters poll found that immigration was the top issue for U.S. voters heading into the November 2018 midterm election. It edged out even the economy. And it's hard to believe that the voters concerned about immigration here is focused on what the left wants to do, this phony concern for the kids at the border. I don't think so. Remember, not so long ago, democrats at least gave lip service to our basic right to border enforcement. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BILL CLINTON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years. SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: Illegal immigration is wrong. And primary goal of comprehensive immigration reform must be to dramatically curtail future illegal immigration. HILLARY CLINTON, CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT: Look, I voted numerous times when I was a senator to send money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, and remember this from President Obama back in 2014, who sounded a lot like Trump on this issue, except for the no protester marching part. (BEIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Do not send your children to the borders. If they do make it, they'll get sent back. More importantly, they may not make it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Of course, almost none of them were sent back. Instead of warning of the dangers of making family tracks across the border like President Obama just did, the new, more ANTIFA-friendly democrats warned about in America that actually punishes border jumpers. And they are never happier on the let then when they are using kids as political pawns. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've heard of the stories -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And with ICE. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- year-old infants being before the judges, it's almost -- Chuck E. Cheese's uses things like this to check parents and their children when they are there. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK. With that absurd analysis, Vermont would be better off with Chuck E. Cheese's mascot as one of their senators. Oh, my God. Chuck E. Cheese's does a better job of keeping parenting -- here's an ICE official, attempting to introduce this concept called applying the facts to the law. To this democrat senator from Hawaii, Mazie Hirono. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Again, I think we are missing the point. These individuals are there because they have broken the law. There has to be a process. SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D), HAWAII: They have broken the law only is deemed so by the president with his -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, ma'am. They are therefore a violation of Title III of the Immigration Illegal Entry, both a criminal and civil violation. HIRONO: My understanding that under zero tolerance, these are no longer civil proceedings but in fact are criminal proceedings? UNIDETIFIED MALE: They are both. HIRONO: I'm confused. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK. God bless her. She's confused. All that volcanic ash blowing across Hawaii begun to affect the good senator's cognitive skills? What part don't you understand? Laws on the books, violate the laws, there will be a penalty. And the pundits wonder how Trump got elected? Out of the roughly 2,500 children who were separated from their family units at the U.S.-Mexico border. More than 1,800 have already been reunited with her parents. Of the 700 children are so who are still not reunited, 431 have parents now outside the United States. Those parents were either deported or voluntarily abandoned their children, a fact that is conveniently omitted from the dem-tifa (ph) crowd. Democrats wailing over the plight of the remaining children are conveniently ignoring the facts. Due to domestic or drug abuse, many of these parents are now deemed unfit to care for their children or dangerous for their children. So news flash: the U.S. government is protecting the border kids today. Or do the democrats want them to be reunited with parents who could traffic them or who are criminals themselves? Is that what they want? By the way, the kids who may have a chance of being deported back home, to be in their homeland with their parents, are now being blocked in a lawsuit by the ACLU. By the way, wasn't that Americans Civil Liberty Union? Now it's Illegal Immigrants Civil Liberties Union. In the meantime, we are caring for these children in the U.S. taxpayers are footing the bill. But who cares about these facts? When peddling emotions, dripping with concern is so much easier. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Melania Trump went to the border and asked these empty questions about when and how these families will be put back together. She doesn't care. She's planning Christmas at the White House. Are you idiots running this country? You seem like child abusers to me. Ask any doctor, ask any child welfare specialist, ask any psychiatrist, ask yourself. Is this abuse? This is abuse. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was abuse just watching that. You ever notice how the empathy, though, just runs one way? It's never the same kind of empathy for the families victimized by violent illegal alien crime. Or DWI deaths because of illegal immigrants. Or drug trafficking. Gunrunning. Never any empathy for Americans who have been pushed out of their jobs in the workforce for cheaper illegal labor. Never ending empathy for ICE agents, who have their reputations as mirrored or lives threatened, for just doing their jobs. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Our commitment to consistent and fair enforcement of the law is demonstrated on a daily basis by the integrity, the unbiased professionalism, and the compassion of the men and women of CDP exhibit toward the aliens we encounter, particularly toward the most vulnerable. We do not believe our humanity behind when read report for duty. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's a great line. Now Americans are just a lot smarter, let's say than the left and their media and the poodles think. Americans understand that we are not a country without borders. Of course we have compassion. That is why we are taking pretty good care of them, all things considered. They are not with their families but they are being fed, clothed, doctor's appointments, entertainment, sports, schooling, interpreters, lawyers. That is not nothing. And Americans will not be guilted into supporting politicians who put the interests of illegal aliens ahead of our own citizens. Here is why Congressman Ron DeSantis will be the next governor of Florida. He gets it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. RON DESANTIS (R), FLORIDA: We can fight illegal immigration. All we got to do is enact e-verify and stop sanctuary cities. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We want maximum border security and respect for our heroes, ICE, border patrol, and law enforcement, and we are going to have tremendous border security that will include the wall. That will include the wall. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The applause went on and on last night. The biggest applause land (ph) when the issue of immigration came up. Look, in my mind, it's actually sad, it's really sad to see what happened to the party of FDR and John F. Kennedy, the democratic party. On this issue and so many others, they used to believe America was worth defending. Her laws, her constitution, the declaration, her borders, her history. Now their most vocal voices believe it is time to destroy that old order and replace it with something closer to socialism. But we are not about to let that happen. And that's THE ANGLE. Joining me now for reaction is Tom Homan, the former acting director of the ICE. Mr. Homan, thank you so much for being here. Really appreciate it. TOM HOMAN, FORMER ACTING DIRECTOR OF ICE: You bet. INGRAHAM: I got to tell you, when I see what's going on in Portland, Oregon, beautiful Portland, a lot of history of political activism, that's fine, this is not your ordinary political activism. What's happening there that the American people are not seeing because the media will not adequately cover this story? HOMAN: What has been happening -- during the time I saw your clips earlier, and Chris Crane (ph) is right. The mayor has refused to take action on those folks that have illegally prevented us from doing our jobs by shutting our building down for over a week. How many child molesters, predators, weren't arrested that week? How many criminal aliens, aliens who enter this country illegally and commit yet another crime weren't arrested that week? A lot of criminals are now walking the streets of Portland that would have been arrested that week. The mayor turned his back on the citizens of Portland for his own political ambitions. INGRAHAM: Now Chris Crane (ph) was talking about the ANTIFA infiltration, or some would say takeover of this protest. Are the run-of-the-mill, kind of millennial protesters, with the magic marker signs, and the black mask people, kind of working hand-in-glove there from what you are gathering? HOMAN: Yeah, I watched video of the Portland office showdown for several days. And ANTIFA was there. In a matter of fact, they hung their ANTIFA flag up where the United States flag -- INGRAHAM: Whoa, whoa whoa -- they took down the U.S. flag, they climbed the building, they took on the U.S. flag, and they replaced it with a ANTIFA flag? HOMAN: Yes, ma'am. And the patriots at ICE -- when they took the building back, the first thin they did was raise the American flag back up. INGRAHAM: The only thing I can think about it is when ISIS was rolling through parts of Iraq. And they were going to those Christian villagers in Mosul and so forth. They were knocking down those churches, taking off the cross, and raising the ISIS flag. As a form of domestic terror. HOMAN: It's pathetic what's going on in Portland. I don't know who is worse than that mayor or the mayor in Oakland -- INGRAHAM: Oakland. HOMAN: -- or Philadelphia or New York. I mean there's a whole bunch of them right now, who have never accepted this president, and they will put their own political ambitions ahead of the public safety of their citizens. Now I want to remind the Portland mayor because I'm sure he will hear about that, these ICE employees, are also tax payers and citizens of the city of Portland. He has a duty to protect them and the police. INGRAHAM: Zephyr Teachout, interesting name, democratic candidate for a New York attorney general, calls to abolish ICE and said it this way. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ZEPHYR TEACHOUT, DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL: ICE has to be abolished and as attorney general, I will continue to speak out against ICE, I will prosecute ICE for their criminal acts. We have stories of consistent abuse within ICE. The idea that we could call this law enforcement is a real offense to the idea of law itself. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: A real offense. I think she's mixing up -- I think she means "offense" but that's OK. HOMAN: I've never seen that video but now I'm more irritated than I was when I walked in here. That attorney general -- INGRAHAM: Candidate. HOMAN: -- candidate. I hope that is as far as she gets. Look, prosecute ICE agents? ICE officers and agents have taken more than 5,000 criminal aliens up the street in New York. That walked out of there sanctuary jails. ICE has done more for public safety in that state in their own governor has. ICE officers on the northern border have shut down opioid trade and -- INGRAHAM: But they say Tom -- the reason they are upset is because you are separating families, you are focused on deporting these families, when you should be focused on the illegal immigrants. They are conflating border patrol, HHS, detainment centers, and ICE they are putting them in one big pot. What you could do a better job if you weren't focusing on these poor children. HOMAN: Let me tell you about the whole separating families. I watched the hearing yesterday and I was quite disturbed by some of the questions by democrats. They kept wanting to put the blame on border patrol agents and ICE. They had us out of process, we've been separating families for decades, first of all. This isn't a new -- INGRAHAM: decades. HOMAN: -- decades. They want to blame somebody? Congress needs to look in the mirror. I have been up on the hill several times along with the head of CDP and CIS talking about the loopholes. If they want these folks to see a judge and claim asylum, we do, too. There is one way to guarantee to see a judge is to keep it in a family residential center. They don't want to do that. They refuse to fix the loopholes, the attorney general did what he had to do operationally to defend our borders. The attorney general did exactly what he should have done. INGRAHAM: Zero tolerance is a way to go. He was right. We have a runaway judge situation in this country who are acting as super legislators. HOMAN: A judge in San Diego, he ordered during the 2,500 unification stop, doing the DNA testing, when we did the DNA testing for the children under five, five to seven percent weren't their parents. So if you extrapolate that to 2500 people, how many children do we have to release them to people that weren't their parents because I judge decided that DNA wasn't important? INGRAHAM: Wow and the 20 percent of kids were not brought across by their parents -- HOMAN: Twenty-five hundred children separated. There's 10,000 children in custody, HHS that were separated by their parents who hired criminal organizations to put their kid in the trunk of a car and smuggle into United States. That is child abuse. INGRAHAM: Who are the parents who send their kids across the border alone? I'm sorry. What kind of parent is at? HOMAN: I watched (inaudible) claim the administration of child abuse -- the child abuse is hiring a criminal organization to put your kid in the trunk of a car and smuggling them to United States. INGRAHAM: Tom Homan, hey great to see you. HOMAN: Appreciate it. INGRAHAN: They (ph) miss you over there at the Homeland. HOAN: I'm in the fight. INGRAHAM: All right. Good for you. And Bob Mueller is prepared to make a significant concession to the Trump legal team. Siting sources, John Roberts reporting that Mueller has agreed to reduce the number of questions for President Trump and a potential interview from his initial list of 49. Mueller is also willing to accept some answers in writing, though he wants oral answers to others. Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani responded to the tug- of-war over an interview earlier today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUDY GIULIANI: They sent us a proposal. We responded to their proposal. It took about ten days and yesterday, we got a letter back. And now we're in the process of responding to that letter. At the end of it, they should render their report, put up -- I guess, put up or shut up, what you got? We have every reason to believe they don't have anything. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining us now to analyze, Alan Dershowitz, author of the book, big best-seller -- "The Case Against Impeaching Trump," along with Sol Wisenberg, former independent deputy in the Whitewater investigation. Professor Dershowitz, what you make of this latest development? Supposed concessions, they don't seem like huge concessions to me. Down from 49 questions, some in writing. Does this change the calculus? ALAN DERSHOWITZ, AUTHOR, "THE CASE AGAINST IMPEACHING TRUMP": I don't think so. It's not about quantity. It's all about quality. All he has to do is ask one question, what was your motive, why did you fire your Comey, or why did you ask Comey maybe to go easy on Flynn? All they want to do is get him to say in a context where he would be charged with a crime, something that is controversial, and something that somebody else will come in and testify and say, no, he told me something different. No, he told me that his motive was this or that. Motives are so vague and subjective. And you can be charged with lying to prosecution officials, even if you tell the truth. If there is another witness who comes in and gives a different account and the prosecutor is trying to get you. They want to put you in perjury trap and believes or says he believes the other witness who made out only be singing, but he may be composing, in order to get a better deal. You've walked into a perjury trap. In the end, I don't think as lawyers are going to let President Trump testify orally at all. Look, the president may get his way. He says he wants to testify. But no lawyer is going to walk his client into a perjury trap. INGRAHAM: Tonight, "The New York times" Sol is reporting that the president is pushing for an interview with Mueller against the advice of counsel. Now I don't know if this is kind of a -- they are playing around here on this, good PR or if that is the real deal. But let's pretend for the moment that is real. Your reaction? SOL WISENBERG, INDEPENDENT DEPUTY FOR THE WHITEWATER INVESTIGATION: I think it is suicidal. I think it's idiotic. I agree with the professor. Here is the real key here. Based on everything we know, they don't have anything close to an obstruction case on the president. But it is much easier, in addition to the stuff that Professor Dershowitz said, it is much easier to prove a case of flying to the government under 18 U.S. code section 1,001 than it is to prove an obstruction case, particularly based on what they have. It has to be material, but the threshold for a material lie is extremely low. And their cases are legion of convicting people under 1,001 and including Martha Stewart. It's a terrible strategy and I can't believe -- I would physically restrain my client in these circumstances. INGRAHAM: You and I both -- DERSHOWITZ: And also -- INGRAHAM: OK gentlemen. Hold on, Alan. We're going to stay for another segment. We have an incredible story ahead. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama's stunning connection now to the Mueller probe. You won't believe it. Stay there. INGRAHAM: If you've happened upon one of the other cable news network boots recently, first of all -- tsk tsk -- you've probably been bombarded with updates on former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort's federal trial kicked off today. Despite no allegations of Russian collusion, Manafort is facing serious prison time in a case brought by the special counsel, Bob Mueller. It's all related to Manafort's work that Russian friendly Ukrainian political party there that predated his time with the Trump campaign. So it got swept up in this whole deal. Interestingly enough though, there are reports that Mueller has referred three cases to federal prosecutors in Manhattan involving high- profile lobbyists who also worked on behalf of that same Ukrainian linked group without registering as foreign agents. Haven't heard much about that. Have you? Could it be that, because, well, one of those names is Tony Podesta? Super lobbyist to the democratic party and brother of John, the chairman of Hillary's failed 2016 campaign. Or that other name, Greg Craig, he's a former White House counsel for Barack Obama. Re-joining us now for reaction, Alan Dershowitz, and Sol Wisenberg. OK, guys. How potentially serious, or not, is the deal with referring both Podesta and Greg Craig to the southern district of New York? Greg Craig, full disclosure, worked for my old law firm, Skadden Arps and they parted ways months back. But let's start with you, Professor Dershowitz. What is going on here? DERSHOWITZ: Greg is a great guy. He lives on Martha's Vineyard with me. I see them periodically over the summer. Full disclosure. Look, this proves that you never needed a special counsel. They are taking these cases more and more and referring them to ordinary U.S. attorney's office. The Manafort case also could have easily been tried by the U.S. attorney's office in northern Virginia. The other Manafort case by the district of Columbia U.S. attorney's office. Why do we need a special counsel? The cases don't involve Russia for the most part, the only cases that involve Russia are cases that will never be tried at all, the 12 Russians. They are not coming to Disneyland any day soon to be served. They are not going to be expedited by Vladimir Putin. So we are seeing more and more proof that we never needed a special counsel; that special counsel will end up filing a report and getting some low-hanging fruit and getting some convictions, largely unrelated to what his mandate originally was. I didn't like special counsel when they were appointed to get bill Clinton, I didn't like them in other cases. I don't like them now. I don't think they're consistent with the principles of democracy. INGRAHAM: I was independent counsel, but yea, similar. Sol, we are vacuuming up a lot of information about people, and it is going after the special -- the southern district of New York, same deal with Michael Cohen. It doesn't seem like it is expanding to places that have nothing to do with the original charge. WISENBERG: Well two things in my view. Number one, I think probably, if it has related gone to the southern district, unlike Michael Cohen where they could say it is not in our daily wick, here, this part of the original Manafort thing, but I think probably, they're going to decline those cases, and it's just my guess, and if Mueller declines cases against democrats, he would get a tremendous amount of criticism for it. So it's easier to send it to the southern district. DERSHOWITZ: Good point. INGRAHAM: Like it looks better for Mueller, who's been accused by the president of having 17 -- prosecutors -- WISENBERG: I don't agree -- INGRAHAM: not all of them have ties to the democrats. WISENBERG: -- the president shouldn't be doing that. Here's the other thing. Here's the difference. Right or wrong, Mueller sees Manafort as a key to his Russia conspiracy case. He believes, right or wrong, that Manafort knows that something Manafort is the key and that is why he is going after Manafort that he is clearly going to -- INGRAHAM: Didn't Judge Ellis said that today? DERSHOWITZ: Yeah, he did. WISENBERG: He said it repeatedly. He says I don't like it by the system let him do that. Every prosecutor has done that at some point in their career. So that's the key to Mueller. Manafort is the key. The question is, if he's convicted, does he become what Susan McDougall, and say, nuts to you, I'm still not talking to you, or does actually decide he'd rather talk than spend -- if he has any information -- INGRAHAM: He was at in the Trump campaign for 5 minutes. WISENBERG: Four or five months. INGRAHAM: I don't think Trump is worried about Paul Manafort. I know for a fact he's not worried about her. Dershowitz -- DERSHOWITZ: You made a very good point, though. He made a very important point. And that is it's much easier for you an U.S. attorney to decline a case and that is why we should have U.S. attorneys. They are professional prosecutors. And they don't have a target. And they can decline cases if the facts and the law don't warrant prosecution. It's harder for a special counsel to do that. INGRAHAM: All right. Yeah. OK. Let's advance his narrative today. We have this trial kicking off in in the eastern district of New York. And, in struck me that much of the time in these opening statements, a lot of the conversation went to Paul Manafort's wealth. And there was one point where they brought in this witness, OK, Maximilian Katzman, former manager of a New York city menswear store called Alan Couture, claiming Manafort spent more than $929,000 on suits between 2010 and 2014. Judge Ellis then says -- cantankerous old Judge Ellis way, who I love dearly (ph), all this document shows is that Mr. Manafort had a lavish lifestyle. He had a nice home with a pool and a gazebo. It's not relevant. Of course he went out to make a really funny comment about the clothes, saying -- he spent a lot of clothes and it wasn't even that well- dressed. Is it a crime -- is a crime not to spend a lot of money, but we got a lot of people guilty of that in this town, Washington, D.C. (CROSSTALK) WISENBERG: If he doesn't say Men's Warehouse, I don't know anything about it. INGRAHAM: I like T.J. Maxx. You likes Men's Warehouse. DERSHOWITZ: That is my kind of judge. That is my kind of judge. I will never be convicted of anything, expensive clothing are a prerequisite. I also go to Men's Warehouse. WISENBERG: The interesting thing about that is under the law -- the law is terrible at showing lavish lifestyle. Under the law, the prosecutors in most courts would be allowed to say that, but Judge Ellis really doesn't like it. And every time he makes those comments, the jury is listening and they know that he doesn't like it. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Professor Dershowitz, at one point they talked about the fact that Manafort used foreign wire transfers to pay for his clothes. And this Maximilian Katzman, who is like the Kato Kaelin of the trail so far, he says, well, that is the only customer I've ever had pay -- who cares? Again, this is not against the law. I don't know what Manafort did. I think this whole thing -- I don't know, my antenna, my Spidey senses are going up about this case. I don't know if it is Rick Gates, I don't know if they're afraid to bring Rick Gates in as a prosecution witness, they seem to be hesitant about bringing Gates in, which I find interesting. Professor? ALAN DERSHOWITZ, HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR EMERITUS: Whenever you bring a witness who has admitted to lying, it's a very hard job to put them on the stand. The witness always says, well, I lied to the past, yes, I know that, but now I am telling you the truth. Then the lawyer for the defense says, well, you expect to benefit from telling the truth don't you, you expect to get a good deal? So it is very hard to get a successful conviction based on a flipped witness who might not only be singing but composing. And this judge is very synthetic to that. He used that term. He said sometimes witnesses who are squeezed not only sing but compose and make the case better in order to get a better deal. INGRAHAM: But real quick, they talked about not doing that early morning raid -- we're almost out of time -- early morning raid. Apparently the FBI had a key to his condo. They said, how did you have a key? They said, we don't know how we had the key. A little weird. A little weird. Again, this is my own litigator sense. That is interesting. WISENBERG: But listen, Gates is going to testify. INGRAHAM: Gates is going to testify. Guys, we're going to have you back all the time. This is going to fascinating. Great panels, great to see you in person. Big name Democrats now scouring Hollywood for new production gigs. We'll tell you about the latest. Arroyo next. INGRAHAM: It's time now for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we expose what's behind the big cultural stories of the day. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Sorry, we are laughing about something else. Young Americans are developing some very peculiar new habits. For more we are joined by FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series, Raymond Arroyo. OK, Raymond, let's start with some trends that you picked up among millennials, and they might be -- and what do they tell us about the new generation? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: And you don't want to overgeneralize because there are some great things about millennials. They're contemplative. They reuse things. But -- INGRAHAM: Contemplative? ARROYO: They are. INGRAHAM: The laptop people at Starbucks? ARROYO: They are willing to move, they are willing to change and find their destiny. They are more mobile than we are. Here's what they are doing. They have adopted what's called small house movements where they live in campers, or RVs. INGRAHAM: Or containers. ARROYO: Containers, these little babies they are offering to them, and they are also living in pods in their parents' backyards. Now, three- fourths of all campers are generation x and millennials because they are transient, they are impermanent a little bit. But there is an interesting thing I saw in the "Los Angeles Times" and a ton of other periodicals. They are green thumbs among the millennial generation. INGRAHAM: How do we go from containers to green thumbs? ARROYO: I'm going to make this fit. Listen, a 2017 gardening survey found that of the 6 million new gardeners in America, 5 million are age 18-34. They are millennials. They are cohabitating with plants, Laura. INGRAHAM: Because there is too much of a commitment with a cat. ARROYO: Right, exactly. They don't want to go all the way with a cat -- INGRAHAM: So a cactus. ARROYO: So a fern or a cactus will work. INGRAHAM: That's bad. ARROYO: Let's go back. They are jamming their apartments with greenery because they want a sense of connectedness. My take on this is they want something natural in an impermanent world. My advice, get a pet, get a child. INGRAHAM: Get a child? Where you going to get that, at Costco? ARROYO: You've got to get married first. That's usually how it happens. But my advice, don't spend your youth on the Ficus. It will not give you a Mother's Day card, and when you get old, it will not water you. So don't do that. There is more we have to do to, and of course the prompter is not there. I have to tell you about a great decision by Netflix this week. They released a notice to subscribers that they would soon be streaming a new documentary with a very snappy title, "The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, My Life's Journey Through Music" it was called. This week, Netflix said they had a technical mix up and that the documentary would not be airing on their service. This is based on a five CD musical release. I had forgotten -- INGRAHAM: I played it on my radio years ago. ARROYO: I had forgotten. INGRAHAM: Oh, yes, screwy Louis. ARROYO: I wasn't going to go that far. INGRAHAM: Screwy Louis, he's talented. ARROYO: He's a violin player and a calypso singer. INGRAHAM: He's a talented singer. He's the Harry Belafonte of calypso. ARROYO: Harry Belafonte of Hate. Here is his calypso -- a little bit of his upcoming album that the documentary is based on. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LOUIS FARRAKHAN: An album that speaks from the pain of the heart of a little boy wanting to see his people. This is a project that attracted some of the most brilliant, award-winning musicians and artists. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Now Chaka Khan, Stevie Wonder -- I hope he is going to sing a duet of "You are the Anti-Semite of My Life" -- that would be cute together. Chaka Khan, Common, why are these people lending their names to somebody like Louis Farrakhan? This man has peddled hate like no one else. And I have to tell you, when I started listening to some of his original compositions, Laura, this is something you could actually put a playlist together. It's really fun -- INGRAHAM: For a radio show. ARROYO: For the radio show. He's got a song called "Heed the Call, Y'all, A White Man's heaven is a Black Man's Hell." Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) FARRAKHAN: Torture, and misgivings, yet the bible speaks of a heaven filled with material luxury, which the white man and the preacher has right here. (MUSIC) (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: The white man's day is done. INGRAHAM: There is no rhyming, I notice. This is like a Cornel West combo, Cornel West with Reverend Wright. ARROYO: It is William Shatner meets Reverend Wright. INGRAHAM: What is the space odyssey music in the background. All right, hurry up, real quick. ARROYO: Let's move on about Hillary Clinton who is branching into TV, you teased this earlier. She has a new deal with Steven Spielberg. INGRAHAM: Of course. ARROYO: Let me tell you how this came up. You asked me earlier, how did you get a gig, she's got no TV experience at all? She read a book, and it's on the suffragette movement. She liked the book, brought it to her lawyer, Bob Barnett. He took it to Spielberg, Spielberg bought it and made her an executive producer. This is how it happens. INGRAHAM: This is how Hollywood takes care of its own. ARROYO: You know what you need to do? Go find a book and then bring it to your lawyer. INGRAHAM: I'm sure. By the way, the notorious RBG, I was down at -- Dinesh D'Souza is coming on. I went to the premiere of his movie tonight. Guess what the first break poster I saw, the first thing, RBG, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the new superhero of the left. ARROYO: See that. INGRAHAM: So now the Obamas are our Netflix, Hillary is -- ARROYO: Hillary is not there. Hillary is at CBS. She is going to be on "Madam Secretary" on their premiere on October 7th playing herself. You can DVR it. You love it. INGRAHAM: With Harvey Weinstein gone, the Clintons needs some benefactor in Hollywood. Raymond, thank you so much. I can't get that screwy Louis out of my head. ARROYO: You are going to be grooving to that. INGRAHAM: No, no. I'm surprised he didn't do it in numerology. Remember his numerology thing? He loves the numbers. ARROYO: This was new to me. INGRAHAM: The left is enraged by a new documentary, speaking of Dinesh D'Souza, chocked full of inflammatory claims about Democrats' history. Dinesh joins us with his reaction right after his world premiere tonight. The uproar, next. INGRAHAM: Few people are better at getting under Democrats' skin then documentary filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza. In his new movie out tonight, big premier tonight in Washington, is riling up liberties with some incendiary claims about the left's history. Here's a sample. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DINESH D'SOUZA, CONSERVATIVE FILMMAKER: Lincoln was elected to unite a country and stop slavery. Democrats smeared him, went to war against him, assassinated him. Who are the real fascists? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Both Mussolini and Hitler set up and ran welfare states. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This was done by the do-gooders, the liberals, the people who wanted to improve society. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining us with more is Dinesh D'Souza, whose film, of course I said, had the big Washington, D.C., premiere tonight. Hey, Dinesh, how are you. Good to see you again. DINESH D'SOUZA, CONSERVATIVE FILMMAKER: Good to be on the show. INGRAHAM: So, boy, you are really kicking the hornets' nest with this film. It's out tonight. You have a book out today. We're going to have you on radio tomorrow, the next day. They are saying you are making leaps of logic, the Democrats aren't the real racists, look at what they are doing to these poor kids in in the detention centers. Trump doesn't like brown people because he's putting his immigration enforcement is a place. What is your response to all these critics? D'SOUZA: There's a lot here. The movie focuses on two things. Racism on the one hand, and fascism on the other. And as you know, from the time Trump got elected, the left has been dropping these two big incendiary bombs, not just on Trump but on the right, on conservatives and on Republicans. So the movie has a historical component because it dives into what is awaiting a fascism, who is the real party of racism. But where it really kicks off with that looks at where is the fascism today, where's the racism today? And it shows that it is the fascist and racist tail belong not on the Republican elephant but on the Democratic donkey. INGRAHAM: Getting a lot of hits from "Variety," "The Guardian," they love you over at "The Guardian," they say "In this embarrassing new film from the far-right provocateur" -- all personal attacks, "Dinesh D'Souza, he compares Donald Trump to Abraham Lincoln, claims Hitler was LGBT friendly, and calls Antifa the real Nazis." D'SOUZA: So let's talk about this Trump-Lincoln business, because that's probably the most inflammatory. The very idea of putting Trump and Lincoln on the cover and morphing their heads together -- but look at how similar their situations are. In 1860 an outsider president, Lincoln, comes in. He's narrowly elected, in fact, in a three-man race. And the moment he gets in, all hell breaks loose. The Democrats in the north are calling for his assassination, which happens eventually. The Democrats in the south are willing to break up the country. So they are trying to get rid of Lincoln, you may say, by any means necessary. So look how eerily similar that is to our moment in which Trump faces a Democratic Party that has still refusing to accept the result of a loss of election, wants to get rid of Trump however they can, and is pursuing all these strategies, including the inflammatory race card and fascism card, to discredit Trump and his supporters. INGRAHAM: This Antifa group is terrifying. Black masks, whipping Molotov cocktails, throwing desks through windows, with signs stop the fascists. They are antifascist, but you point out in the film, which I was lucky enough to see the first 20 minutes before I had to come to the show. They want to stop speech. You have dealt with it on college campuses for decades. They want to stop speech, stop debate, and they are terrorizing people, Trump speaking out. D'SOUZA: They look like fascists, they act likes fascists, except they claim to be antifascist. But I think I am also worried not just about Antifa on the street but I would call the fascism of the deep state, because when a party employs the weapons of the state, the FBI, the IRS -- INGRAHAM: Mueller, Brennan. D'SOUZA: Yes, against your political opponents, what you're doing is you're merging the idea of the party with the idea of the government. Now Mussolini did that. Hitler did that. So that is as close as you are going to get to clinical fascism American-style. Yet it's coming from the left. INGRAHAM: Richard Spencer is someone the left holds up as -- he's alt- right, he is this guy, he is the real Republican Party, he's racist. And you actually interviewed him. He was at that Charlottesville rally. You interviewed him in the movie. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) D'SOUZA: What would be your take on, say, Reagan? RICHARD SPENCER: I do not think he was a great president wade D'SOUZA: Who is your favorite president? SPENCER: There is something about Jackson. There is something about Polk, as well, someone who only served one term. D'SOUZA: Jackson and Polk, as you know, both Democrats. SPENCER: Party is just the vessel that one uses. D'SOUZA: Jackson is the founder of the Democratic Party. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Dinesh, you and I have been doing this politics culture stop since we were at Dartmouth together in the 1980s. Have you ever -- I've never heard of this Richard Spencer until five minutes ago. I literally had never heard of him. D'SOUZA: There is a deep strain of leftism inside the white nationalist movement. Jason Kessler, the organizer of the Charlottesville rally, was an Obama supporter. Think about it, a white supremacist who voted for Obama. And an Occupy Wall Street guy. Now this guy, Richard Spencer, in a core part of the interview, I asked him, where do your rights come from? Do they come from god? He goes, no. We don't have any rights. And the rights that we have are given to us by the government. So he's a statist, he's a collectivist. And yet the left, when they see this, it horrifies them because it doesn't fit their narrative. And so they don't want to interview Spencer in this kind of thing. So I think the movie in a way blows the whistle on Charlottesville and that whole Charlottesville narrative, and it blows it up and shows that there is a whole unreported side of it in which the left is trying ultimately to smear the right with guys like Spencer who are their willing accomplices. INGRAHAM: Do you think this movie in a way is a culmination of, you wrote "Illiberal Education." You wrote the book, what's it called -- D'SOUZA: "The End of Racism." INGRAHAM: "The End of Racism." And a lot of the stuff you've written about in a way comes together, and it's right before the midterms. Important. Everyone has got to see this film. D'SOUZA: The race narrative I have been pursuing for 20 years. The fascism narrative is new, and it's eye-opening to me. We have a scene in the movie of senior Nazis getting ready to pass the Nuremberg laws against the Jews, and they have the laws of the Democratic Jim Crow south, and they are using the Democratic laws as a model for Nazi laws. Amazing. INGRAHAM: We can't expect our high school kids to learn any of these facts today. Congratulations. Book, movie, you're driving all the right people crazy. Thanks so much for being here tonight. And just how easy is it for noncitizens to vote and cast ballots? It can't be that easy, right? Guess what, Michelle Malkin will tell us the truth next. INGRAHAM: A disturbing new report is raising questions about non-U.S. citizens' ability to register to vote and cast ballots. "The Washington Times" reporting, quote, "Noncitizens are signing up to vote in states including Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Virginia, according to the research by the Public Interest Legal Foundation, a nonprofit law firm that advocates for election integrity. The foundation found that a large percentage of those that noncitizens managed cast ballots as well." And yet, here's the common refrain we always hear from Democrats. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ERIC HOLDER, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL: The voter fraud mantra is said to so often, it is almost said robotically, that some people have unthinkingly begun to believe that the issue is real. BARACK OBAMA, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: This whole notion of elections, or voting fraud -- this is something that has constantly been disproved. This is fake news. The notion that they are a whole bunch of people out there who are going out there and are not eligible to vote and want to vote. We have the opposite problem. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Joining us now with the reaction, conservative commentator, CRTV host Michelle Malkin. Micelle, those golden oldies are just -- they are the gifts that keep on giving. They are always worried about voter I.D. because they think it is so hard to get a government issued I.D. in this country. It's really difficult. They think that is onerous. But then they are not worried about illegal immigrant voting, they brush it all off, even if it cancels out a legal citizens' vote in any given reaction. Your reaction to this new report? MICHELLE MALKIN, CRTV HOST: Yes, Laura, first of all, I commend the Public Interest Legal Foundation for doing the work that the liberal, open borders press won't do. You've got the leftists in the elite media screaming about foreign interference and meddling in our political system, and having noncitizens and illegal aliens voting at our ballot boxes is the textbook definition of foreign meddling. This goes back years and years and years. And back when I lived on the east coast, of course, all around me, all of the counties in then-liberal blue Maryland were inviting noncitizens, quote-unquote, and they kept it very vague. They said, we only want legal immigrants who haven't naturalized yet to be able to feel a part of the process and cast their ballots in school boards. This has been the gateway, Laura, as you know, for all manner of legalizing illegal aliens' participation in civic and electoral life. It is radical and it's transformative, and it's happened right before our eyes, all legally. That is the real scandal here. Whether it is the PLIF or Judicial Watch or Project Veritas, which in the last several election cycles has been able to do undercover work and show that Democrats are nonchalant about it, what it shows you are that these people are more interested in banning plastic straws and 3D guns than they are in illegal aliens from the ballot box. INGRAHAM: You see the story of course, this week, last week, San Francisco, local board elections, school board elections, illegal immigrants now can vote. They say, look, they are in the community, why shouldn't they have a right to vote? Now we have that ninth circuit ruling today that you can't defund sanctuary cities. You can always count on the ninth circuit court of appeals on the issue of immigration to get it wrong. I'm sure it will be reversed at the Supreme Court. But nevertheless, the president is up against a completely biased media, perfectly ill-informed media, runaway judges, until he can appoint more, and Democrats and the old GOP guard. They don't want that wall. Let's face it, the GOP on Capitol Hill, they do not want to this wall. Correct, Michelle, do not want it? MALKIN: Yes, they don't. and we've fought these people for a long time, you and I, Laura, long before there were a lot of Johnny-come-lately on this issue. And we can smoke out the phonies and the lip service payers from the people who truly believe in these fundamental principles of sovereignty. It is going to be a reckoning come these midterms. And I have said many times as people have tried to sort of downplay the internal strife over this, of course it should be front and center in front of the midterms. The Gallup polls are now showing that the majority of Americans are with us more than ever. And you've got to left-wing enclaves, even in Oregon, which now has an anti-sanctuary measure on the ballot, and it qualified with I think something like 50,000 or 60,000 more signatures than were need. That is left-wing pacific northwest Oregon. When is the beltway GOP going to get the message? INGRAHAM: Michelle Malkin, you have done such great reporting on this. And you are also doing some reporting on another case we're going to try to get you next week that involves criminal justice reform. And I can tweet something -- you know what I'm talking about. I don't want to get too far into it, but I want to bring you back to discuss that particular case next week. So thank you so much for what you do. MALKIN: Thank you, Laura. I am so grateful. Wrongful convictions are a huge issue for me. INGRAHAM: Wrongful convictions, prosecutors who are out of control in our country, and people rotting in prison when they could actually be gainful members of society. There's a lot of abuses out there and we really appreciate your covering not. Michelle Malkin, thank you so much. We have a lot to still get to. We'll squeeze it in, if we can, when we come back. INGRAHAM: We didn't have time for Raymond's last topic, so we got like 30 seconds. ARROYO: Neil Diamond announced earlier this year, the great American legendary singer, he was going to be retiring because of Parkinson's. He broke that promise to speak, or sing rather, to thank these firefighters in Lake Christine, Colorado. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (SINGING) (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Shannon Bream and the "FOX News at Night" team take it from here. Load-Date: August 2, 2018 End of Document Polling for Midterm Elections Examined; Ruth Bader Ginsburg Promises to Continue on Supreme Court for Five More Years; Democratic House Candidate Makes Controversial Statement on Twitter about Melania Trump; Illegal Immigrants Arrested in Robbery. Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST July 31, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8404 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Doug Schoen, Frank Luntz, Raymond Arroyo, Kevin McCarthy, Chris Cabrera Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Ingraham is still in New York. Why didn't you tell us we were in New York? You would've put you on the show. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: You never invite me anymore. It's like two ships passing in the night. HANNITY: You just lied to America. You are fake news. INGRAHAM: Two ships -- but I gotta tell you -- I loathe to complement you because everybody else does, so I have to tease you. But that interview you just did was so inspiring. I am so glad you tracked her down, a story of redemption. We all need to read those. Everybody makes mistakes in their lives. HANNITY: Everybody does. Come on, everybody's always trying to destroy everybody, especially in this industry, seriously, a grandmother? One-time offense? Life? Are you out of your mind? INGRAHAM: No, there are a lot of people in prison. HANNITY: We should fix that. INGRAHAM: We have a lot of people in prison we have to give second chance to and you really illustrated that tonight. HANNITY: Agreed. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Have a great show. INGRAHAM: All right, thanks Sean good evening. I'm Laura Ingraham, this is the INGRAHAM ANGLE live as you can see from New York Saturday. We have a fantastic show, I'm always immodest, a fantastic show for you this evening. What'll prove the powerful force in the midterms? Bob Mueller or the economy? Two top pollsters join us with information you will not get anywhere else and a House candidate -- check this out -- this happened last night at midnight that I got word of this. Calls First Lady Melania Trump a name so repulsive, so vile, that House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy wants him banned from Twitter. Leader McCarthy will speak with us exclusively tonight about that and a lot of other topics. Plus, why is one of the NFL's most prominent owners suddenly going silent about the national anthem protest? He's being shushed. Raymond Arroyo will be looking for answers in a special Tuesday appearance on the show. But first, how to win the midterms? That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Now you probably heard this, that traditionally, parties in power lose seats in the midterm elections. According to the latest Quinnipiac poll, there are some troubling signs for republicans. But all is not lost. But check this out, it's important you for you to understand what is at stake. Among independents, a group that Trump won by four points in 2016, republicans face a 17-point deficit as of now versus the democrats. Among white women, a group Trump won by nine points in 2016, they are now preferring democratic candidates by a 14-point margin. And among voters, 65 and older, they prefer dems by a 14-point margin. Now look, there is no doubt that the left is energized and they're craving for power. But if the democratic party gains majority, in either House of Congress, what are they going to do? Well, they'll try to reverse all of Trump's progress, and destroy one incredible economic recovery. Industries will be decimated. Jobs will be lost. Of course, the other obvious danger, should the democrats won, a House majority, well, what will that be? That sounds a little bit like this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. AL GREEN (D), LOUISIANA: I rise today, Mr. Speaker, to call for the impeachment of the president of the United States of America. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I would support impeachment. I think that we have the grounds to do it. REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: Let's impeach 45. Impeach 45. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Someone tell her that a doesn't rhyme, by the way. Do we want the rose gallery running the government, controlling federal spending? Stymying (ph) the president at every turn? But let's remember, should Nancy Pelosi repossess that Speaker's gavel, you can bet that she will mire the country in endless investigations of the Trump administration, and plunge us into a daily impeachment drama. There's no doubt about it. Well tonight, I have four recommendations to keep all of this from happening. Number one: the republicans should be out, day in and day out, selling the Trump economy. Go across your districts and remind people that for his administration, its promises made, promises kept and the republican Congress helped him along the way. The president promise peace and prosperity and that is what he delivered. He promised to hold China accountable, make NATO countries pay their fair share. Renegotiate NAFTA. And that is what he is doing. Republicans promised to cut taxes and rollback onerous job killing regulations. And they did that, too. Now this is why the democrats keep talking about other issues, talking about things like Mueller or Michael Cohen, or Stormy or Michael Avenatti. But why the democrats do that? Because they have zero answers to Trump's success. They have no alternative except to go to the tangential, unimportant issues. Now the president, because he gets how to tell a story, he understands the value of touting the economy as he did tonight in Florida. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We're setting records like never before, since the election, we have added 3.7 million new jobs. We are in the longest positive job growth streak in history. The African- American unemployment rate has reached the lowest level in history. History. Sorry about this, women. But the unemployment rate has reached the lowest level in over 65 years. It will be history. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: It was great. And I think about a lot of things, I think about old flashbacks, but it really makes me smile, given everything that has happened on the economic front, to look back on what Barrack Obama said about Trump back in 2016. Do any of you recall this? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: When somebody says, like the person you just mentioned, who I'm not going to advertise for, that he is going to bring all these jobs back, well, how exactly is he going to do that? He just says, I will negotiate a better deal. How? How exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have and usually, the answer is, he doesn't have an answer. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK. Well, he's got something. I don't offense his magic wand. Maybe it's just great politics. Its face it, due to Trump agenda, we have record-low unemployment and the best job market in decades. And by the way, we have 375,000 manufacturing jobs that did come back to the United States, President Obama. According to MarketWatch today, wage and benefits are rising at the fastest pace in the decade. The employment cost index rose .6 percent in the second quarter, a tick below the Marketwatch estimate of 7.4 percent. More important, the cost of worker compensation, in the form of pay and benefits, edged up 2.8 percent to mark the biggest yearly-gain since mid-2008. In other words, workers are making out better. You bet. The argument for every republican candidate goes something like this. If you want to get this economy going, if you want to keep this job market thriving, see your investment accounts growing, vote republican. Number two, a way to avoid impeachment, and keep the midterm elections and republicans grip? Educate voters on what the democrats have become. The democrats, let's face it, have gone totally nuts. Then now want to abolish ICE. They believe people should not be able to use things like normal gender pronouns, that's offensive to democrats. They prefer that I guess we go to war with Russia rather than supporting Trump's diplomatic overtures to Russia. They want to sanctuary cities from sea to shining sea. One guy even wrote a column, a democrat, about how we should have no borders at all. At least they're honest. Now they have a world where illegal immigrants are protected while our citizens become an afterthought. So on the campaign trail, emphasize how the democrats are on the margins. They're the fringe. They are the radicals. They threaten individual liberty. Now this is the party now of regulation and speech codes. It's a party that is intolerant of any view but their own. They want to turn our entire country into, like, one big college campus, where every expression is controlled by them. Number three: argue that a life democrat congressional rule is merely going to be the nation will be locked into two years of relitigating the 2016 election. In other words, any real hope of solving our immigration, our spending, our entitlement, or our infrastructure problems -- poof -- it's all going to evaporate. With this economy roaring, right now, we will can focus on those things, because of Trump and his big victory, we're finally out of the post-9/11 crisis mentality. Remember, it wasn't so long ago that we were either mired in the middle east or dealing with fallout from the housing bubble, the financial crisis, or essentially just allowing China to dominate us with impunity. But thanks to Trump, we can now, as a nation, have a real conversation, and a debate would be nice, about the role that the United States will play in a world where the limits of globalization they've frankly become pretty obvious. But let's not forget, the democrats are loathe to even begin considering that. They don't want to debate. They want to personalize, demonize, isolate Trump from his base. The fourth way to win in the midterms and avoid impeachment: be happy warriors. Have fun on the campaign trail. It is a great time to be an American. I can't think of a better time, frankly, in my lifetime, and this economy, than right now. Are you kids out there watching? These are the good old days. Because of the efforts of republicans and this White House, more Americans will be able to pursue happiness. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Sometimes we forget the latter part. People can realize their dreams. Trump was having that fun tonight and telling those stories. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: I was shaking hands with policeman in New York city and the first one came up to me and said, Mr. President, I want to thank you so much. I said, what did I do? He said, my 401(k) is up 44 percent and to my wife thinks I am for the first time a financial genius. She is giving him all the credit. She said, darling, I love you so much. And he said, yes, I am great financial wizard. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The audience was laughing and having fun. That is what politics at its best is all about. Making people's lives better. Connecting with the electorate. Personalizing the narrative. And that's with the president did tonight. He's out explaining why his policies are working. Highlighting the results and the benefits for particular regions of the country. I hope he goes to places, by the way, that he lost in the general election, or the vote was kind of close. Don't be deterred by the protesters or their resistance mentality from traveling to places like California, Illinois, Colorado, and go back to Wisconsin, go to Michigan. To win over independent voters, and even some democrats, the president and the republicans have to take the wind out of the resistance's sails. This is best done by focusing on your results and offering more solutions without the histrionics or the side issues that will just be used to caricature you later on. And finally, if the president wants to do something in Congress before the midterms, hey, I would push for a middle- class tax cut. I know they are considering another capital gains tax cut, but how about another middle-class tax cuts? Make what you already passed, and is working, permanent, and expand the cuts you have in place. That puts the democrats totally on the defensive and on the spot. That means they are going to have to vote against their own constituents' economic well-being. That's a great idea. And one last midterm strategy, there was something of the president said about this wall and his desire for the wall that caught my attention. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We're going to have tremendous border security that will include the wall. That will include the wall. We have started large portions of the wall, but we are going to need -- even the way we negotiate, we're going to need more, we're going to get more, and we may have to do some pretty drastic things, but we are going to get it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: All right, well, I hope by drastic things, he's not referring to a government shutdown. Now I know a lot of you conservatives are like, yeah, government shutdown. I get it. It's tantalizing. But it's like the skeleton crew works the government and it functions just fine for a time being and I might force Congress to fund the wall before the midterms, although I'm not sure that would happen. As a political strategy -- I'm talking about winning at November to prevent the impeachment of this president -- I think it is really risky. It's really risky. Why is it really risky? Because with suburban women, with the independent voters, that is not really where they are. Results matter. Making their lives better matters. And with the president on the wall 100 percent, but if you're going to take a risky gamble on shutting down the government, the time to do that? That was last March when the whole omnibus spending bill debate was going on. Right? That's when the president had the good instinct, it was in the morning he voted on it, the good instinct to veto it. Well the republicans made him change his mind on that -- he didn't veto it. But that was a time to take the stand. Now it is too close to the election, the midterm election. And plus, I think it would also convey a sense of chaos. And that's not what those independent voters want to see. They want a happy warrior president. They want the economic success is touted. They want to know who the democrats really are. They wanted steady as she goes. So Mr. President keep the focus on the economy, like you did tonight, and your party cannot lose. Remind voters that without a GOP Congress, your booming economy is sure to unravel. And then when it does unravel, it is going to give way to daily impeachment warfare on Capitol Hill. As for you republicans, who still don't really fully embrace the president's record, I have to say this, frankly, you don't deserve to win. But for the rest of you, make these midterms just the start of something phenomenal. And that's THE ANGLE. Joining me now for reaction as John Summers, a democrat and former communication director for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Dan Bongino, an NRA TV contributor and author of the forthcoming book, "Spygate: The Attempted Sabotage of Donald J. Trump." Great to see both of you. All right, John, take it away. Where do you think I went wrong with my four steps to holding the House and Senate and avoiding impeachment? JOHN SUMMERS, FORMER COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR FOR SENATOR HARRY REID: Well you had a lot of stuff in there. But you also had some things that I don't disagree with. I think when we talk about with the president needs to do, first of all, he's got to improve his approval rating. They are abysmal right now. In fact his approval ratings are currently lower than Richard Nixon's work at this point in his presidency. He's got to take some steps to improve his approval rating. I would love to see the happy warrior tweet overnight. It would be a welcome change, I think -- to actually see him -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: He was having fun tonight, John. John he was having fun tonight. Did you watch the rally? I thought he was having a great time. SUMMERS: He was having a great time in front of his base. But the base isn't what he's going to need to win. It's great he's got I believe 88 percent approval rating among his base, but that won't win over as you are saying, independence and other people. What he's got to do is go back, and republicans need to do this, and democrats need to do it, we all need to be focusing on the people who -- the hardworking families, who elected Trump into office and that's where he's lost sight. And one way he can do that is to provide farmers relief from this terrible trade war that he started. INGRAHAM: Terrible trade war that's working. SUMMERS: Republican members of Congress are begging for relief. INGRAHAM: Yeah. Of course they are. Because they are used to the big money from their big lobbying organizations that want to keep the globalist going. I gotta get Dan Bongino in -- Dan, you know the drill. I gotta play for this for you. These were some of their predictions for the November elections coming up that we've been hearing on tv from the usual suspects. Let's watch. DAN BONGINO, AUTHOR, "SPYGATE: THE ATTEMPT TO SABOTAGE DONALD J. TRUMP": Right. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You see the makings of a democratic majority. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The democrats have to win 21 seats to take control. I think it is a better than even chance at this point that it's going to happen. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So there is definitely a blue wave coming and we've got to get ready for it and stop lying to ourselves. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are plugged into a lot of republicans. What are they saying -- what are they really saying behind-the-scenes? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're saying, get off the beach. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, Dan. First of all, most of those people hate Trump, who were wrong about the election in 2016, but now they are giving all the advice to republicans. Your reaction? BONGINO: Yeah Laura, these are the same people who printed in "The Washington Post" that Trump had approximately a 0 percent chance of winning. I'm not making that up, that was an actual headline, I think it was Chris Cillizza was one of the bylines on it. I mean why would you write something so absurd? He obviously didn't have a 0 percent chance of winning. He speaks more to your animosity toward the person than it does your political acumen. Now I just want to address something John said though. I am always kind of weirded out by this, when people say Trump should focus more on the middle class, when he just was responsible largely for tax cut that has filtered down to the middle class and now we are seeing the numbers. I get this a lot when I debate with democrats. They try to prod you with emotion, but they lose all of the facts and data. We just had the employment cost index. 2.8 percent. Barack Obama hovered around 2.2 present this entire time. He's at 2.8, Trump is only been in office two years. We've just seen an explosive growth, even an income tax revenue toward the government. We've seen 4.1 percent GDP. Recovering from eight disastrous years of Barack Obama. I think the middle class gets Donald Trump and I think, John, I respect your analysis, I think you are way off there. If anybody's in touch with the middle class it's Trump. SUMMERS: His approval rating would be way higher than it is, so you're wrong. That's an important data point for you. Another important data point for you is the fact that those middle class tax cuts that you are talking about, yeah, some of them do trickle down to the middle class, but the majority of those tax cuts actually benefit -- INGRAHAM: Yeah because those of the people that pay all the taxes John. (CROSSTALK) SUMMERS: -- the billion-dollar tax cut is pushing for today for rich people. INGRAHAM: For everyone who has investments, right? How many people are invested in the stock market? If you're smart, if you're interested in in the stock market. Most people with any extendable income are invested in the market. But on the middle class, guys, I think it's really important for the republicans to take the high road. I'd go for another middle-class tax cut. Dan Bongino, do you agree with me? I'd push the democrats on that. I'd cut even further for those families under $100,000 income with three or four kids, I'd cut them further. Let the democrats veto that or not -- SUMMERS: They would support the middle-class tax cut, not another tax cut for the extremely wealthy. INGRAHAM: Well good. Good. That'll be win-won for the country. Dan? BONGINO: Laura, I agree with you. I'd like to see a five or six percentage point cut in the metal brackets that would affect would affect middle-class married families, no doubt about it. But notice how -- that John spins it again. They do this all the time. They say, well it will trickle down to the middle class. No, the middle class got an actual tax cuts. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: And they have like $2,000 more in their pocket now. BONGINO: I know if you are -- I don't know if you are unfamiliar with how the tax cut works. Maybe you should take check the data on the percentage point tax cut. But what's interesting Laura -- INGRAHAM: All right guys, we're out of time, yeah -- but I will say this. The president gets about 55 percent approval on the economy. We will see. A lot more to get to. Ron DeSantis up next. Big rally tonight. What happened behind-the-scenes? We'll tell you. Don't go away. INGRAHAM: President Trump headlined a wild rally in Tampa, Florida, this evening. A lot of my friends were there. Making a push for his agenda and throwing his support, full-throated support, behind Florida Congressman Ron DeSantis' gubernatorial bid. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We are restoring American strength and American pride. This may be, in fact it probably is, the greatest movement in the history of our country. But you keep it going, we need to elect more republicans. We need more votes. And we need to elect Ron DeSantis as your governor. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Don't you wonder how you get chosen to sit behind the president? I want to know. Joining us now with more as Congressman Ron DeSantis. What an amazing night, Congressman. I know you were on cloud nine because somehow, last month, when I was down there, you were down 15 points, and now you are up 12 points. Again, polls can change. I'm not saying -- we are not getting too confident here. But that is like a 27-point spring. What could possibly account for that, Congressman? REP. RON DESANTIS (R), FLORIDA: Well look, we had the president has been behind me but was more public toward the end of June. We had a big debate on FOX News, which showed the distinctions between the two candidates, which was very important, not just the fact that I am supported by President Trump in my opponent was fighting Trump during the election, but also on some of these substantive issues that you and I have discussed, things like e-verify, being tough on illegal immigration come a big distinction there. But tonight, I think was just taking it to another level. Laura, that whole arena was filled with people. And there were thousands of people waiting outside that couldn't get in. There was a lot of electricity. Those folks are fired up, ready to go, and look Florida is going to -- I think we will do well in Florida in the midterms this year. INGRAHAM: a lot of people are talking about, because of the horrible natural disaster in Puerto Rico, and a lot of people are moving into Florida from Puerto Rico, they had a horrible situation they've had to personally deal with. Registering to vote, if some of them weren't, they 're going to a registered democrat. Do you have a strategy for dealing with that because I understand that the democrats are moving on that front? Now, we're obviously moving past the primary there. DESANTIS: Sure. So the sitting Congresswoman from Puerto Rico has endorsed me. She's a republican. Jennifer Gonzalez and she's a good friend. And that community in central Florida is receptive to pro-jobs, promote economic growth -- INGRAHAM: Good. DESANTIS: -- pro-education message. So we can do it. Governor Rick Scott, his approval rating amongst that community in central Florida is, like, 70 percent because he's worked very hard. INGRAHAM: Wow. DESANTIS: He managed the hurricane, aftermath as well, and he managed the Maria aftermath, when you had folks that were leaving Puerto Rico to come to Florida. So yeah look, we need to compete everywhere. INGRAHAM: OK. You just came out with an ad that you are getting some flack for. A lot of us think it's pretty adorable. We have to play it. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CASEY DESANTIS, RON DESANTIS' WIFE: Ron loves playing with the kids. R. DESANTIS: Build the wall. C. DESANTIS: He reads stories. R. DESANTIS: Then Mr. Trump said, you're fired. I love that part. C. DESANTIS: He's teaching Madison to talk. R. DESANTIS: Make America great again. C. DESANTIS: People say Ron is all Trump but he is so much more. R. DESANTIS: Bigly. So good. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, now, some people don't have any sense of humor. What is your reaction tonight to that ad? Some people think it's kind of goofy. I have already endorsed you, full disclosure. I endorsed you five years ago when you weren't announced yet. But what about that? DESANTIS: Well look. The response has been overwhelmingly positive because in this business, you have to be able to take a step back, poke fun at yourself, have fun at this, and part of what makes me I think effective is that I have a wife that is my best friend and best supporter, we have a family, that is very important to both of us. And we wanted to let voters know about that. We wanted to do it in a way that is not the typical cookie-cutter ad -- INGRAHAM: Yeah. DESANTIS: -- that no one pays attention to. So people who were getting upset about it, they have no sense of humor. And I think that some people, it is just, like, the Trump derangement syndrome, it sets in so much that they lose the ability to reason and have a laugh at some of the stuff. INGRAHAM: Well, first of all Congressman, I think your wife should run in the future. I'm already five steps ahead of you on that. DESANTIS: She gave a heck of a speech tonight in the warm up, Laura. INGRAHAM: I already heard about it. Congressman, congrats. Great night tonight. We really appreciate it. And the final sprint to the midterms is on with 98 days to go -- can you believe it -- a critical question looms. How will Bob Mueller and the Russia probe impact voters, if at all? There's no sign of it wrapping up but will the surging economies sweep the investigation to the side of the ballot box? Joining us now, are the polling heroes. Frank Luntz and Doug Schoen. Great to be with you. DOUG SCHOEN, DEMOCRATIC CAMPAIGN CONSULTANT: Great to be with you. INGRAHAM: How much fun. Doug Schoen -- SCHOEN: Yes? INGRAHAM: Your reaction, you heard THE ANGLE tonight -- SCHOEN: I did. INGRAHAM: -- my four pieces of advice as to how to avoid impeachment and win the midterms? SCHOEN: Well, as a democrat and a conservative centrist democrat, sort of wish you kept your opinions to yourself -- INGRAHAM; Oh good. SCHOEN: -- because the rant was exactly right. Running on the economy, a middle-class tax cut, is the pro-growth message that the republicans need. If they get distracted shutting down the government over immigration, that's the stone-cold loser. You asked about the Mueller investigation -- Trump's numbers have gone up, the republican numbers have gone up, as that investigation has carried on. So I don't think that issue, frankly, is going to be relevant unless and until something demonstrative and definitive happens, which shows no signs of happening before the election. It could change. INGRAHAM: Yeah. SCHOEN: But as we sit here today, I think the democratic advantage has as much to do with 40 open republican seats, which are either open or retirements, than it does with any groundswell for the party. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Frank? FRANK LUNTZ, POLLSTER: It's a simple question. Are you better off today than you were two years ago? And so many Americans are and the country is. INGRAHAM: So why these numbers with independents, suburban women, you talked about it two weeks ago on the show? You put up the warning flag. And I know it is easy for Republicans to say the pollsters were wrong last time, you can discount the pollsters. I think you do that at your own disadvantage this time around because the resistance is so powerful, they are mad that they were wrong last time and they want to prove themselves right this time. LUNTZ: I agree with you 100 percent. And the problem is that some of the language is ineffective, the words they are using and the way they presenting it doesn't work with women. And there is a backlash because of exactly what you said. Middle-class, middle income, middle America women, Republicans have to do a much better job. And then there's one more thing. I actually think that it's not enough for them to say, hey, you have got a 4.1 percent growth rate, because nobody understands what that is. INGRAHAM: Personalize the stories, correct? LUNTZ: Personalize it, and I want you to look two years ahead from now. What will America be like with Speaker Nancy Pelosi? I think they actually have to use her in the campaign. INGRAHAM: Yes, you undo the gains that we have made in the last two years. Separate what you don't like about Trump's tweets, undo it all. And then how are you doing? There is a new poll out, by the way, the Harris poll that came out just an hour ago or so, about Mueller, going to your point. They believe the bias has hurt Trump, the Mueller, the way the FBI handled the investigation. And so that demonstrates again that people don't think this process is fair. I don't think it ultimately has much of an impact in the November elections. SCHOEN: I agree with you, I don't think it well. And Frank's point is an important one and it's one of the reasons why I think the Democrats have a better than 50 percent chance to win the House. Women, suburban, white voters, middle-class voters on both coasts are really reacting to the rhetoric of the Republicans. INGRAHAM: Because when they go to the country clubs, we're talking about suburban women, country clubs, they hang out, have coffee with their friends, is it just that they are embarrassed, they feel embarrassed to say they support Trump's results? Do they want to feel there is a way for them to support Trump because he shows empathy or compassion on an issue? Oh, he's good on this. How does he message that, Frank? You're the message guru. LUNTZ: You stay on the tax cuts. You stay on the jobs report. You stay on everything that is economically based because in the end, that matters to more to them. There will be some people who will vote based on Donald Trump. This election, you won or lose based on whether they think their income level will be better two years from now than it is today. INGRAHAM: That story Trump told at the rally tonight, my 401(k), firefighter in New York, up 42 percent, 44 percent that was smart. I want to do a whole hour with you guys. Can we please? I guess we can't. We're going to do it black if we do that. Thank you so much. SCHOEN: Thank you. INGRAHAM: Is the president using sports to divide Americans? Why is Ruth Bader Ginsburg groupies rejoicing? A lot more to get to. Arroyo next. INGRAHAM: A Supreme Court justice refashioned into a pop culture superhero, while a sports giant claims the president is dividing us. To explain further in his special Tuesday appearance -- what's going on? Let's bring in FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series Raymond Arroyo. Raymond, over the weekend, Supreme Court justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she would stay on interestingly, she chose five years. Why five years on the high court? She's 85, 86? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: She's 85. And I noticed something culturally is happening with Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I am at a children's store this weekend, a bookstore, and I'm going through the racks, and there are not one, not two, but three children's books on the life of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. "Notorious RBG," "I dissent," and "The Ruth Bader Ginsburg Story." There they are. INGRAHAM: What? ARROYO: I also noticed, there are dolls, action figures. INGRAHAM: Dolls? ARROYO: And a new documentary that I caught is distributing to theaters everywhere called "RBG." And here's a little glimpse. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off of our necks. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We welcome today Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. (APPLAUSE) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's become such an icon. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Would you mind signing this copy? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am 84 years old and everyone wants to take a picture with me. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Notorious RBG. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When you come right down to it, the closest thing to a superhero I know. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: The closest thing to a superhero, Gloria Swinem -- Steinem -- sorry about that. (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: That was truly a slip of the town. Many on the left who were upset with Ruth Bader Ginsburg. They thought she should have retired when Obama was still the president, and now they say she is just holding on. I believe she is trying to give them a reason to rally during the midterms. Now you have a reason to vote because Ruth is going to hang on for another five more years. INGRAHAM: I understand that people -- I saw this last night on Twitter -- are offering up their organs, their internal organs, to keep her going. Is that true? She's in good health. You see here with the barbells? She's in great health. ARROYO: The woman survived pancreatic cancer. INGRAHAM: She's amazing. ARROYO: She's unbelievable. INGRAHAM: I actually have known her for almost 30 years. ARROYO: You are going to get another five years. INGRAHAM: She's a delightful person. ARROYO: We're going to move on here. Basketball superstar LeBron James just opened a brand-new, state-of- the-art school in his hometown of Akron, Ohio. And during a media tour, he had this to say about the president. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LEBRON JAMES, NBA PLAYER: This race thing is taking over, and because -- one, because I believe our president is trying to divide us. He's using sports to kind of divide us, and that is something that I can't relate to. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Dividing us. Look, you got to say right off the bat, LeBron James, this is school he opened it Akron is incredible. At risk kids -- it's food, its STEM and math-based. It is a fantastic school for at-risk kids. This comment, though, that the president is dividing people with sports, I think that goes too far. The president capitalized on what he saw and amplified it. INGRAHAM: Why is the president dividing us along sports line? People kneel at the national anthem -- ARROYO: Colin Kaepernick did that, not Trump. INGRAHAM: The people in the stands reacted to that. Trump spoke about it, but the fans didn't like it. So how was that the president -- look, when you are an athlete and you comment on politics, that is fine, you have every right to comment on politics, you are an American citizen. But don't expect they aren't going to be half of the country who disagree with you. I think what we find is that when you go to sporting games, people just want to enjoy the sport, they want to enjoy LeBron. And it doesn't mean he doesn't do great things. He does great things. ARROYO: We've said this. They want their movies, they want their sports, they want their films and theater free of politics. It divides and it should be uniting. LeBron stands in stark contrast to this new Dallas quarterback, Dak Prescott, who had this to say about the same controversy. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DAK PRESCOTT, NFL QUARTERBACK: I never protested during the Anthem and I don't think that is a time or the venue to do so. The game of football has always brought me such a piece and I think it does the same for a lot of people. When you bring such controversy to the stadium, to the field, to the game, it takes away from that. It takes away from the joy and the love that football brings a lot of people. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: The love and the peace that football brings, I think he is on to something. INGRAHAM: I adore him. He's the new Tim Tebow. I love him. ARROYO: When you go to a game, you just want to bond with one another and cheer the tame on. I don't want to think, he voted for Trump, he voted for Obama -- INGRAHAM: Redskins, Redskins, Redskins. Forget the Saints. ARROYO: Who dat? INGRAHAM: All right, another celebrity was speaking out about her Trump just last night, Kim Kardashian. Listen to the way that she handled Jimmy Kimmel's questions. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KIM KARDASHIAN: I have nothing bad to say about the president. JIMMY KIMMEL, LAST NIGHT TALK SHOW HOST: Right. You still have people on the list. (LAUGHTER) KARDASHIAN: I'm very focused. But I don't agree with everything either. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: She just has something bad to say. She probably has something good to say but she is afraid to because Hollywood will descend on her and call her a hater, a racist, and everything else. ARROYO: But the president commuted the sentence of that woman -- INGRAHAM: Hannity just had a great interview. ARROYO: For 22 years she served on a drug offense. He released her. I think what you are hearing from a Kardashians here and Kanye before her, it's a struggle to come to terms with being fair to the good things the president is doing while disagreeing in the areas where you think he's wrong. There's nothing wrong with that. INGRAHAM: Everyone can disagree, let's just be a little more polite about it. ARROYO: Aren't you kind and sweet here in New York tonight? INGRAHAM: And good for LeBron for opening those schools. ARROYO: It was a good move. INGRAHAM: And Raymond, we'll see you tomorrow. ARROYO: Tomorrow night. INGRAHAM: We just want you to shine in this beautiful studio. ARROYO: It is a pretty studio. INGRAHAM: Apparently. A House candidate, by the way, hurling a horrible slur at Melania Trump, and now House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy wants him banned from Twitter. What is that all about? McCarthy joins us exclusively to press the case next. INGRAHAM: House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy is helping lead the charge against destructive behavior and language on social media, perhaps none more so than on Twitter. Case in point, this Oregon House candidate, Mark Roberts, he has called himself an interdependent, he's a leftist. He's facing backlash after this disgusting tweet directed at Melania Trump, quote, "Did you know the first lady works by the hour?" And I'm not going to read the hashtags. You can read them for yourself. Can you imagine if someone said that about Michelle Obama, what they'd be doing tonight? And now Leader McCarthy is calling on Twitter to suspend Roberts. The congressman joins us now exclusively with more on that and other issues. Congressman McCarthy, this is so low, but it's one of the many things the left has said about conservative women over the last few years that have gone on with impunity. No repercussions, no boycotts, they say it, they get away with it, and they are celebrated for it, congressman. REP. ANDREW MCCARTHY, (R) HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER: Exactly right. That is why he saying it. And this is inappropriate on any platform to say about a first lady, this first lady, or any other first lady. And Twitter is treating people much different. You look what they did to conservatives. They shadow banned them. And when you shadow ban somebody, everything you put up on Twitter is invisible except to yourself. And you know what they did to the RNC chair, Ronna McDaniel? They shadow banned her. Congressman Devin Nunes, they shadow banned him. They just said it was a glitch. It was just an algorithm. But there was not one of the 78 Democratic progressive liberal members who ever got shadow banned. They are going after conservative speech. INGRAHAM: So Jack Dorsey is a big liberal who founded Twitter. He's a big fan of Barack Obama. That is fine. That is fine if he is a big liberal. MCCARTHY: He even apologized for eating at Chick-fil-A, which I found unbelievable that process. But here is an individual that said a speech that in my belief, is hateful. It is does not belong on that platform. He should suspend his account. He goes on to even speak more about the first lady, but he bans conservatives, but not this instance. INGRAHAM: But he wasn't banned from Twitter, correct? I learned about -- MCCARTHY: He got suspended. INGRAHAM: I learned about this because I saw your retweet. Not to get you into it, but it was a response to something our friend Charlie Kirk of Turning Point USA had written. And this freak responds to his tweet and says the h-word, hoebag, I don't even know what that is. It's so stupid. It's something you read or hear it some kind of lame, gross hip-hop thing. I don't know. But if you said about Michelle Obama, what would be happening? What would be happening tonight? MCCARTHY: This person would be shut down. They would be no opportunity for him to ever be on Twitter again. But listen to why he responded to Charlie. Charlie simply pointed out that our first lady is running a thinner, leaner operation where there are fewer people working there. And he responds this way to her. But what goes farther is this is happening on social media in a lot of different places. Remember what Google did to the Republicans in California a week before our primary. They said our philosophy was Nazism. Remember what Twitter continues to do to conservatives, a shadow ban. This has got to stop especially before we go into this campaign. How many other individuals are sitting out there that want to have a communication or talk about a conservative subject get banned or their views are never being seen? But individuals can talk like this and they never got suspended. This is what is wrong. INGRAHAM: And the problem, congressman, is that when young people do basic searches for information, they do basic searches on "capitalism" or on "tax cuts," and it is interesting to see what comes up on those searches. And invariably, the most leftwing, progressive, even socialist views, which are couched in the most beautiful terms, come up first. That is a problem when you have companies that get so big their market cap is larger than most countries. And they have such an outsized influence, it's a problem. MCCARTHY: It's a major problem because we found Facebook prior to the last election was suppressing conservative views that were going out there. It's exactly what you are talking about. They are only allowing other views to come forward. That is why they have to have a very clear policy. They have to be held accountable of what we're moving forward -- INGRAHAM: Is there anything you can do on the Congressional level? On the Congressional level there's nothing you can do, right? MCCARTHY: We brought them in for hearings. What I fundamentally believe is they have to stop the bias. And ever since I came out with us, I simply did a tweet one time of what I found had happened, stop the bias. It even happened to my own wife in the process. But I was able to speak up for it. I am getting many people across the social media showing me what has happened to them. And they don't have a voice. INGRAHAM: Good. Good. We have to have the evidence. MCCARTHY: This is has got to stop, and I want to get it cleared up. INGRAHAM: I did my opening "Angle," congressman, on four ways to avoid impeachment and avoid losses in the midterms. And I focused on the economy, and the focus has to be relentless on economic growth and how Pelosi will reverse the gains that have been made. At the same time, there is concern that we will have a risk of a government shutdown. Now President Trump said at his rally tonight that he is considering, quote, "drastic measures" if necessary to get the funding for the wall. He campaigned on the wall and Congress hasn't delivered on the wall that he campaigned on. And I believe the American people want this enforcement done. What is your read on this? Would a government shutdown hurt Republican chances in November? MCCARTHY: I think timing is everything. If you shut down in the 30th and you've got 60 votes in a Senate, the Democrats would take advantage of that right before the election. Let's be very clear, we have put money into the wall. We are currently building the wall, but we have to finish it. INGRAHAM: It's $25 billion, congressman. MCCARTHY: We put more money forward. INGRAHAM: We need the money. MCCARTHY: We have got a lot further more to go. In the House, it's not a problem. It's the Senate and the rules of where we go. We have got to pick the right timing when we have this. But you are correct when it comes to the economy. Think for one moment -- there's three entities you really want to watch and a selection. Women, independents, and seniors. If you watch and you look at from all the Democrat open seats, when it was a race between a woman versus a man, a woman won 71 percent of the time. INGRAHAM: Getting killed, Republicans are getting killed. MCCARTHY: But you know what happened since this tax cut went through? One million new jobs. Women in America, the unemployment for women at the lowest point it's been in 65 years. INGRAHAM: But congressman, don't the women want things to calm down? Women want things calm and peaceful, more happiness. MCCARTHY: They do. INGRAHAM: So I think Trump has to be the happy warrior. MCCARTHY: They want less dysfunction. INGRAHAM: He was happy warrior tonight. We want happy warrior Trump because it is very charming and very -- I think it just makes people happy. We want that. Do you agree with me on that or am I overstating it? MCCARTHY: No, I agree 100 percent. If people really saw the president Trump I always see, he is a happy warrior. He's a lot like when you watched Ronald Reagan. If you believe your policies bring people more freedom and liberty, you should be a happy conservative. INGRAHAM: Absolutely. MCCARTHY: Because want to know about it more often. That's exactly what should go out. INGRAHAM: And we know what's going to happen if the Democrats -- if the Democrats get control, it's going to be mired in investigation mania on Capitol Hill. It's all going to be undone. Congressman, thanks for joining us exclusively tonight. We really appreciate it. Up next, seven illegal Mexican immigrants attempt a brazen robbery in Texas, but why do the local authorities not tell us about it initially? Stay with us. INGRAHAM: OK, a viewer warning to all of our liberal viewers. You're not going to like this story because we have yet another example of crime committed by illegal immigrants. This is brazen. This time it's coming from the border town of McAllen Texas where on Saturday masked men stormed a jewelry store in a botched robbery attempt. As you can see the surveillance video, at least some of the men appear to be armed. Thankfully, authorities quickly took the man into custody. There were no injuries. According to customs and border protection, all seven of the suspects were in the country illegally. What a shocker. A fact that the local police neglected to disclose in their initial statement. Joining me now for reaction, Christopher Cabrera, a spokesman for the National Border Patrol Council. Chris, I always find that it's like pulling teeth to get immigration status out of local authorities or reporters who are covering these stories. But this was amazing. You have some background information in at least a few of these robbers. Tell us. CHRIS CABRERA, NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL: Yes. A couple of these individuals that attempted that robbery had been arrested in California in 2015 for a similar robbery, a smash and grab type operation, where I think 10 people went into a jewelry store in the Los Angeles area and two of them ended up, two of them from this group were part of that previous group. INGRAHAM: And Chris, what I think American people get frustrated by is that these people coming to the country illegally, some of them get arrested for crimes, they do some time in California, then they are released into society because it's a sanctuary state. They are released into society. They are not really deported. Some of them are but then they come back over. They commit yet another crime. And then they do time here, we pay for three square meals a day, we pay for their incarceration, and then perhaps they'll be deported into Mexico. How bad is it right now at the border, and what in your mind has to be done immediately to stop this flow across the country? CABRERA: I think we need to be tougher on the prosecutions, tougher on the sentencings, and make it a real deterrent against coming over here. Also we need more agents in the area, on the ground. However we manage to do that, it remains to be seen. But it needs to be done because right now, it is wide open out there. And the American public deserves security along the border. INGRAHAM: I have a friend of mine who actually used to work for me years ago, but he works in McAllen, Texas. He loves the people of McAllen, Chris, but it is in some ways, it's the wild west as a border town. Is that accurate? CABRERA: It's a nice community, it's a great community. There are times where there is crime out here. There's a lot of home invasions. Usually, those are done -- I guess those are within the drug community, those guys fighting against each other. But it's just a matter of time before something breaks off. We have had cross-border violence for some time. Unfortunately, the local authorities, whether it is the city or the county municipality, they don't want to admit that we are having spillover violence from Mexico. And it is coming slowly but surely, it has increasingly gotten worse. It's just that people are pretending it's not there. INGRAHAM: Obrador, the new president of Mexico, this is going to end. There is no more thruway from Central America through Mexico or Mexico into United States. Not going to happen anymore. Chris, thanks for that insight. It's fascinating. We're going to be right back, close at this hour. Do not go anywhere. Stay there. INGRAHAM: By the way, our earlier guest made this point about Trump's approval rating, it is so low. Trump's approval rating is at about 48 percent. OK, Obama had about 46 percent at the same time in his presidency. Don't be making those points on the show. There he is. He just got off the plane. He had a raucous rally in Florida talking about the economy, getting the troops all psyched up for the midterms and this gubernatorial race. Focusing on the economy, Mr. President, and it's all going to be coming up roses. That's all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the great "FOX News at Night" team are up next. 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So, we are now 439 days into the Trump- Russia collusion witch hunt and still nothing, zero evidence that Donald Trump or his campaign did anything wrong. Now, the president, rightfully, is calling out Mueller and his extreme conflicts of interest and his blatant political bias, in a huge way. Now, the president's attorney Rudy Giuliani will set the record tonight with the very latest. Also, if Robert Mueller is really concerned with Russia collusion -- well, I'll happily be glad to point him in the right direction we've got all the evidence he needs. In fact, there are many real examples of Hillary Clinton, oh, Adam shift-less Schiff and other top Democrats happily colluding with Russia before, during and after the 2016 election. We have a great tape. We'll lay it on the table tonight. And also, so many important topics that we've got to cover. Jim Comey, he may be headed back to Capitol Hill. The president is now pushing forward with a strong plan on immigration, which is now an important issues, 98 days we are away from these important midterm elections. The media is really actually rooting against America's strong economy, and we've got that tape. All right. Sit tight, stay tuned, buckle up, it's time for tonight's very important news-breaking, multi-pronged opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. It is the worst example of political persecution in U.S. history. It was supposed to be a deep dive into how Russia was attempting to meddle and cause chaos in our presidential election. Instead for months, special counsel Robert Mueller, he's been searching, searching for something, anything, to malign the president and all his allies. Well, now, the special counsel's judgment, political prejudice is in the spotlight today. This weekend, the president tweeted, quote, is Robert Mueller ever going to release his conflicts of interest with respect to President Trump, including the fact that we had a very nasty, contentious business relationship. I turned him down to head the FBI one day before his appointment as special counsel and Jim Comey is his close friend. And he continued also, why is Mueller only appointing angry Democrats? Some of whom actually work for crooked Hillary like, well, Jeanne Rhee and others including himself have worked for Obama? Why is it Mueller looking at all the criminal activity the real Russian collusion on the Democratic side, Podesta, dossier? The president's absolutely right. On this program, we've been right and we have long called out Mueller, his merry band of Trump-hating and corrupt Democratic donors for what our extreme conflicts of interest. In fact, Mueller's team is made up in of investigators and lawyers who have almost exclusively donated to Obama, Hillary, Democrats. They couldn't find one Republican, not one, even an independent. And we're talking about tens of thousands of dollars to candidates like Kirsten Gillibrand, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton herself and we have called out Comey's cozy relationship with Robert Mueller. Now, the two long term time bureaucrats were once referred to as brothers and arms. Now, given all of this anti-Trump bias, should any one in this country really be surprised? Sadly, we have a two- tiered system of justice. Mueller is more than happy to obsess about a pointless meeting at Trump Tower between Donald Trump Jr. -- Paul Manafort goes on trial tomorrow. When is Hillary going on trial? And a Russian lawyer and resulted in absolutely nothing, it's a 2005 tax case had nothing to do with Russia. Nothing. But no investigation until, let's see, Congressman Adam Schiff. Now, we actually have the tape. And remember, he was duped into having a conversation with the Russian pranksters who promised him embarrassing political dirt, naked pictures and everything, of Donald Trump collusion. Listen for yourself. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: He was in Moscow in November 2013. He met with a journalist and -- PRANKSTER: Well, she's poor journalists. But anyway she became a famous because of -- Putin is her godfather. SCHIFF: OK. Putin is godfather, OK. PRANKSTER: She also known as the person who provide support for oligarchs. She met with Trump and she brought him one of Russian girl celebrities, Olga Buzova, who's also known as person with a strange reputation. SCHIFF: Olga, and how do you spell her name? PRANKSTER: Olga Buzova. SCHIFF: And what's the nature of the Kompromat? PRANKSTER: Well, there were pictures of naked Trump. SCHIFF: And so Putin was made aware of the availability of the comprising material? PRANKSTER: Yes, of course. SCHIFF: Thank you very much. We will be back in touch with you through our staff to make arrangements to obtain these materials for our committee and for the FBI. And I appreciate you reaching out to us. (END AUDIO CLIP) HANNITY: Naked pictures of Trump. It was Russian collusion. Oh the big elephant in the room, Clinton campaign. Robert Mueller, listen up, we found collusion, Call shiftless Schiff immediately. All right. Remember, it was Clinton in the DNC, they funneled money through a law firm, Perkins Coie, to a consulting firm Fusion GPS, to fund a foreign spy Christopher Steele. Why? Because he had Russian contacts that made up Russian lies, the now infamous dirty dossier that by the way was never verified, corroborated and has been debunked. Clinton campaign used these bought and paid for Russian lies in two ways. First, it was used to shape the Clinton campaign's message. And are according to a report from the House Intel Committee, quote, a person whose name was redacted led regular briefings that contain Steele's information for senior Clinton campaign staff and that included campaign manager Robby Mook, campaign chairman Johnny Podesta. And second, the dirty dossier was actually shopped around to various high- ranking government officials and, of course, your corrupt media all in an effort to malign the Trump campaign before Election Day to lie to you. And that included senior DOJ official Bruce Ohr whose wife was working with Christopher Steele at Fusion GPS. She was helping to make up all these lies. And then the CIA director turned MSNBC hack John Brennan also reportedly leaked the contents of the dossier to then Senator Harry Reid, also Brennan, by the way, was involved in this. But then went public with the information. And, of course, there's also the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. It was Brennan who I was talking about before. Clapper allegedly leaked the dossier to CNN, fake news, which now as his employer. And let's not forget the major role the phony dossier played with the FISA warrant application against Trump and a campaign associate of Trump's, Carter Page, during and after the campaign. Four separate warrants, the bulk of information coming from the phony Russian dossier that Hillary paid for. Where's the investigation into this collusion? Mr. Mueller, where are you? The Clinton campaign paid a former spy and used Russian lies to lie to the American people, steal an election, get a warrant to spy on Americans using an unverified, uncorroborated Hillary Clinton bought and paid for political document nobody told the FISA court judges ever in the original application, subsequent applications and disseminated what was false, untrue propaganda, disinformation to rig an election, a presidential election? Now, given the rampant bias from team Mueller and this two-tiered system of justice at play here, is it any surprise that President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani who will join us in a few minutes is urging his client not to participate in any interview with Mueller? If he did, he would be crazy. That's a bad idea. You can't trust these people. They're corrupt. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you now yes or a no on a sit-down between the president and Robert Mueller? RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ATTORNEY (via telephone): Well, two things. First, no on a sit-down until we get -- we get ironed out exactly what they want to do, and then the process is we have five co-counsel senior people will advise the president he decides and he's always leaned in favor of doing it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, what are you telling him about that? What advice -- GIULIANI: Right now, I'm telling him no way. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And as we speak, Rudy Giuliani will join us in just a moment as crafting a report to rebut any kind of negative findings from Team Mueller and, of course, we know Trump-Russia collusion is a total hoax. Still, many on the left, in your media are rolling out recent actions of one-time Trump attorney Michael Cohen as some kind of huge smoking gun against President Trump. Even Michael Cohen himself if they would do their jobs, they're lazy and overpaid, has denied the accusations of collusion. He did it in testimony on Capitol Hill in 2017. He said, quote: Given my proximity to the president of the United States as a candidate, let me also say that I never saw anything, not a hint of anything that demonstrated his involvement in Russian interference or election or any form of Russia collusion. We say it again. It's time for this witch hunt to end. We are now more than 14 months of this politically motivated fishing expedition all designed to malign the president that you the American people voted for. If the deep state, your corrupt media and all these elites had their way -- well, he never would have been president. That's why they rigged the investigation into Hillary to save her. Now, Donald Trump is the leader of the free world. His decisions impact the lives of literally billions of people every day and this collusion lie, distraction is hurting the country and frankly abroad, it's hurting us as well. It needs to stop. And meanwhile, breaking tonight, former deep state Trump hater, fired FBI Director Jimmy Comey, well, he may be headed back to Capitol Hill. Goodbye, Jim. And House Republicans are reportedly pushing to interview Comey over his decision-making during the 2016 election. Remember, he was one of the officials to sign off on the Pfizer warrant against the Trump campaign associate, despite admitting the dossier he said was salacious and unverified. But then he had already signed off on it. We also have breaking news on the immigration front tonight. Over the weekend, the president tweeted this, I'd be willing to shut down the government if the Democrats do not give us the votes for border security, which includes the wall. Must get rid of lottery, catch and release, and finally go to a system of immigration that is merit-based. We need great people coming into our country. And today, the president doubled down on that tweet. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: My administration is working hard to pass border security legislation, improve vetting and establish a merit-based immigration system, which the United States needs very, very importantly, very badly. As far as the border is concerned and, personally, if we don't get border security after many, many years of talk within the United States, I would have no problem doing a shutdown. It's time we had proper border security. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Secure the borders. And as the president continues to push seriously for a wall to protect our country and a common-sense merit-based immigration system -- well, your friends in the Democratic Party, their friends in the media, they're playing political games with America's strong economy. Last week, great economic news -- GDP grows on a whopping 4.1 percent rate. And despite this great news, a robust, healthy economy, we now have the largest labor participation rate ever, millions fewer on food stamps and oh 4 million new jobs, isn't that great? Now, the media is spinning, this is bad news. Only the media. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Here's the thing with the economy booming like it is now, at least in GDP terms and low unemployment rates among minorities and all that good news, he's still in the low 40s and what's he going to be we have our -- we have our recession in two years? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was sort of an urgency in the president's voice that bordered on -- of almost pulling on pulling a muscle trying to pat yourself on the back. There is a sense of where you overhyped something, and there were so many times in that than those remarks that it felt overhyped and how he was talking about the economy. TRUMP: We've accomplished an economic turnaround of historic proportions. (LAUGHTER) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can we play -- can we play that again? Anybody that just goes on a Google machine can see that in -- you showed in part that the economy, oh wait, was here went up and then it's been a steady slow gradual economic increase. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The vapors every morning, six to nine. Can't help it. As we march toward the most important midterms of our life, buckle up, get ready. The rhetoric coming from the media, Democrats, and their friends on the left, it is going to get more insane, more negative, and more ridiculous. I'm telling you, you better get ready for the polls. Everybody's going to be smeared. Buckle up. And guess what? The future of your country is at stake. If the Democrats win in November, this is their agenda. Take a close look right there. They want to rescind, they want their crumbs back. They want to rescind the tax cuts. They won't say it, they tell everyone to be quiet, but they want to impeach the president. Just don't tell the people. And, of course, they love their Obamacare, keep your doctor, keep your plan. I'd bet a lot of you are paying so much less, right? And they want to block Judge Kavanaugh. And, of course, they want to end all legitimate important investigations into the deep state and, yes, they want open borders. We know they want open border. They want to eliminate ICE. In 99 days, you the people will decide if the Trumpet gender stops, you want that to happen, what did you vote for in 2016? There's a lot on the line here. There's no positive agenda. Joining us now, the author of the hit new book, it has been number one for over a week, "The Russia Hoax", run and that's "The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", FOX News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett. The author of another huge best-selling book, "The Case Against Impeaching Trump", Harvard professor who's not really loved where he is right now on some island, I won't want to mention where because everyone's attacking him, Alan Dershowitz. And criminal civil rights attorney David Schoen is with us. All right. Let's start with the so-called Trump Tower meeting and compare it to Adam shiftless Schiff and he thinks he's talking to a Russian about naked pictures of Trump, and he's excited about it. He's talking to a Russian, collusion. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Right. It's not collusion to have either of those conversations in the Trump Tower meeting or Adam Schiff. It's not a violation of the Federal Campaign Election Act because foreign nationals are allowed to volunteer information in an American campaign. Some have said, oh, it's a conspiracy to defraud the government. No, it's not, that requires dishonesty, deceit, trickery and craft. No application here. Some have said -- and these are law professors who have said this -- well, it could be honest services fraud. No, that requires, according to the Supreme Court a bribe or a kickback. So, again, collusions not even a crime at a political campaign. HANNITY: Never -- JARRETT: Show me in the criminal codes where this exists. I have an entire chapter of the book entitled "It's not a crime to talk to a Russian". Hillary Clinton's campaign and Democrats actually talk to more Russians than the contact with the Trump campaign. HANNITY: It's even worse than that. They paid for Russian lies. Professor Dershowitz, I know you took great offense on conspiracy TV MSNBC. Why you punish yourself like that, I have no idea. Nobody's really watching anyway. But the important question is you have said this. You are not the biggest Donald Trump supporter politically, but to you, this is important because it's about civil liberties, our Constitution. I don't think Professor Dershowitz likes that FISA judges will purposefully lied to and that they gave them false information to obtain a warrant on an American citizen and tried to impact an election. All these things I find disconcerting. ALAN DERSHOWITZ, AUTHOR, "THE CASE AGAINST IMPEACHING TRUMP": Well, more than disconcerting. I find them unconstitutional. When members of the Justice Department seek a warrant and deliberately withhold the two most crucial pieces of information, namely that the dossier was paid for by people trying to defeat Donald Trump for president and withholding the fact that the credibility of the witness who was providing the information may turn on the fact that he claims he has evidence that Donald Trump engaged in these kind of salacious things with a bed and urine, if they had told that to the FISA court, the FISA court would totally discounted the credibility of this witness. A witness who can come up with that kind of nonsense is not the kind of witness who would justify -- HANNITY: What about all signed off on that? (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What about Rod Rosenstein and Comey? Aren't they supposed to verify it? Aren't they supposed to make sure that the judges are fully informed and they knew that Hillary paid for that? DERSHOWITZ: If they knew that. HANNITY: They did. DERSHOWITZ: And they saw the actual application, then they committed a serious violation. And they should be asked why those two pieces of information in particular were willfully and deliberately withheld from the FISA court? Look, the other side says maybe they live granted the warrant anyway. We know FISA courts grant warrants very easily. This should be a whole revision of the way FISA courts operate. There should be a devil's advocate who is arguing against the granting of the application. But these two pieces of information, I want to hear from Rosenstein and from others why did they justify withholding those two pieces of information if they knew they existed -- HANNITY: How about -- DERSHOWITZ: -- and they knew that the FISA court would want to know that? HANNITY: How about we would release -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: -- 19 pages unredacted, David Schoen, of the last warrant that Rod Rosenstein signed off on because I hear it's devastating to him and to others? Let the American people see all of it. DAVID SCHOEN, CIVIL RIGHTS LAWYER: Right. That's a key point respectfully, Professor Dershowitz is right on track, but there's not a question now about what Rod Rosenstein knew. We now know that he signed off on at least the last renewal, and the rules of the FISA court expressly provide that if there's any, any error, doesn't even have to be a material error. Error that must be corrected and the court must be notified immediately in writing if there was any error or omission, specifically in the rule from any prior application. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Is this crime? Why do I think Sean Hannity -- I have three great lawyers on the show tonight, three, seriously, if I lie to a judge, purposely misled a court, or let's say that I had deleted subpoenaed emails, I acid washed my hard drive with Bleach Bit and then I had busted up my devices, do you think either -- any of you three do you think you can get me out of jail? (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: Professor Dershowitz, you're laughing. DERSHOWITZ: I could get -- I could get you out of jail. Look, I don't think -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The only way you're going to get me out is with a cake and a file. DERSHOWITZ: -- obstruction of justice -- no, no, no, I think with a legal brief. I think I can demonstrate to you that neither Mueller's case against Trump nor your case against Hillary Clinton amount to an obstruction of justice. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They subpoenaed Sean Hannity and I delete the 33,000 emails, then I used bleach Bit, Gregg, and then I bust up the devices. Let's say I go into Robert Mueller. Robert Mueller recently asked for every witness to hand over their BlackBerrys and iPhones, and I said, if I ever advise people bad advice, bad, and I did if they did what Hillary did and here's the busted up devices -- JARRETT: Obstruction of justice, there was a subpoena. HANNITY: Would I be arrested? JARRETT: You would and it's clear obstruction of justice. HANNITY: Would you get me out? JARRETT: Comey admitted in his -- no, I just leave you there. (LAUGHTER) DERSHOWITZ: I'd get you out. I'd get you out. JARRETT: Comey admitted in his testimony -- nobody pays attention to this -- Comey admitted in his testimony Hillary Clinton gave classified documents to people without security clearance. That alone should have been -- HANNITY: It's a crime. JARRETT: -- a crime, not to mention the fact about -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Kristian Saucier spent a year in jail for these pictures. JARRETT: These are people who did the exact same thing on a smaller scale than Hillary Clinton and they were prosecuted. HANNITY: How many people in your book that you identify that did far less six. JARRETT: Six. HANNITY: Yes. JARRETT: Six people. HANNITY: David Schoen, last word. SCHOEN: Listen, there are many -- there are many reasons Mr. Comey has to be brought before Congress, not in a backdoor off-the-record hearing, public testimony. He may think he's going to get some zingers in, he's got to be examined about the many things in the I.G. report about his leaks that are still under investigation by the I.G. The fundamental problem here is there's no integrity in the process from Mr. Mueller's team that he picked throughout the process. That's what's fundamentally most offensive. HANNITY: All right, guys. And, Professor Dershowitz, thank you. You're the only one that said you can get me out. Thank you. We're going to give extra plus -- JARRETT: I could get you out, I just don't want to get you out. HANNITY: You know, I hope your book tanks now, you know? That's really horrible. No, I'm only teasing. All right. We have a big interview. The president's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, right in -- I love your book. I'm kidding. It's a joke. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now, America's mayor and President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani. How are you, sir? Good to see you. By the way, I really hate that you have that ring. That is the Yankees Championship World Series ring. RUDY GIULIANI, ATTORNEY FOR PRESIDENT RUMP: Why do you hate it? HANNITY: I wish -- I want one. GIULIANI: Well, you weren't the mayor of New York City when they won. I won four. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: I was there for the last one with Mariano Rivera. GIULIANI: I should -- I should emphasize, I paid for it. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: OK, you probably -- you know, it's funny because remember David Dinkins got in trouble for being at that particular game the last game when the Yankees won -- GIULIANI: Yes. HANNITY: I was at that game. I bought my tickets on StubHub. GIULIANI: Yes. HANNITY: And he got them for free, he always did. He always did. GIULIANI: I have a letter from George Steinbrenner that I treasure. He said the only politician who paid for his tickets. HANNITY: You have to long story. By the way, I don't -- long story. All right. Let's stay on business. There's no -- there's no second meeting here? GIULIANI: It's highly unlikely. I always have to leave the option open as a lawyer, in case they come across with something that really startles us or fills some of the things that we feel are important. I had a long talk with John Dowd today. I believe we're coming toward the end, so I'm talking to some of people who are involved in the original part of the -- of the investigation. I thank John for all the cooperation he gave them because he puts us in a position where we don't have to cooperate. We gave them 1.4 million documents, 32 witnesses. President Trump has answered every question. And now, they're looking at his tweets to investigate them for -- HANNITY: Trying to influence -- GIULIANI: Obstructions of justice by tweet. HANNITY: Yes. GIULIANI: I prosecuted obstruction of justice. If they're going to do obstruction of justice by tweet to impeach the president, God bless us. HANNITY: You said maybe you would let him answer a few limited questions on collusion, but not -- GIULIANI: No, I don't want to give them a false impression. Given some of the revelations in the last three or four weeks, we've been driven further away from the idea of answering any questions from them. We don't think they have a legitimate investigation. HANNITY: Do you think they will subpoena? Was there going to be a constitutional fight? GIULIANI: Well, then they'll be a constitutional fight. I mean, I think we'll win it. One of the main ingredients of a constitutional -- HANNITY: I was here when you were mayor. You're not exactly shy when it comes to fight. GIULIANI: No, and we beat Clinton in the Supreme Court when I was mayor and I won my own case in the Supreme Court when I argued it, and I have one of the best Supreme Court lawyers United States with me. You know him. HANNITY: Jay. GIULIANI: Jay Sekulow. HANNITY: Yes. GIULIANI: Thirty-nine cases in Supreme Court. HANNITY: He's won like 90 percent of those -- GIULIANI: You got it. And how about unanimously? HANNITY: (INAUDIBLE) to know. GIULIANI: But in any event, that's not to boast, it's to say we got the better part of the argument. You have they have presidential privilege. They can't be -- they can't be subpoenaed. You have the fact that even if he can be subpoenaed, coming on some narrow -- you have to show particularize need. And as John Dowd's memo of four months ago shows, they have no particularized need. They have everything. Let's take -- let's take an example. Mr. President, why'd you fire Comey? He's already explained it over and over and over again. Hey, hey, guys, you either believe it or you don't believe it but don't think we're suckers, and again, you put that on the oath and you're going to jamming (ph) with perjury. HANNITY: Perjury track. GIULIANI: Because you believe a liar like Comey or one of the other liars -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They're friends. GIULIANI: And they are very good friends. HANNITY: And Robert Mueller was denied the day before he got the special counsel -- GIULIANI: Comey is more discredited than anyone in this investigation. You can't -- he cannot be believed. So, if you're telling me you're going to believe Comey's word against the president, then I know you're trying to trap him in the perjury. HANNITY: Do you think they -- what happens if -- like, for example, what happens, if Mueller decides he wants to take this all the way and subpoena the president of the United States? GIULIANI: Well, we go to the Supreme Court and we find out if he can. Never been decided. The only subpoena to a president ever happened in it in the many years of our republic is that Bill Clinton. It was withdrawn. It's never been decided. So, we will have a case of what they call first impression and will and we will find out. But then we have cases of lesser officials that were subpoenaed. And documents of the subpoena is, probably they might if that's the case. And you always have to show particularized need. If you have to show particularized need for a commerce secretary, a labor secretary, you sure have to show up for the president tell me the particularized need. They're going to lose on that. As I said, they are going to say we want to hear what he said about Flynn. Well, he said about Flynn, I never had that conversation. Comey said he did have a conversation. So why are you calling him the grand jury for that, because you want to wrap him with a perjury charge when you couldn't bring a regular charge against him. SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Yes. And the president interesting he had wanted to talk. GIULIANI: Martha Stewart. HANNITY: But Martha Stewart did nothing. They didn't get her on any crime. (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: Well-- HANNITY: Yes. GIULIANI: This is Martha Stewart. Who did Martha Stewart? Jim Comey. HANNITY: Scary. It's scary. If he can't get him on the crime he'd going to get him on-- (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: Yes. Let's get him. HANNITY: Right. GIULIANI: It doesn't matter how serious the crime is. HANNITY: Let's go to Mueller's team. I have been-- (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: Let's get a celebrity week tour. HANNITY: What about the SDNY? This is on -- you worked there. You worked-- (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: I worked at SDNY. They're good. They are really good at what they do. GIULIANI: Yes. I have no objection to that. HANNITY: What about -- why are they bringing in the CFO of the Trump organization? GIULIANI: A thousand reasons. I've been through and our lawyers have been through including our Washington lawyer and our New York lawyers. We have through every one of the documents they have given us and they have given every document relating to President Trump here. He has (Inaudible) in that investigation. That's why we quickly waived the privilege. And the minute Cohen believes that first conversation between Cohen and the president where he secretly recorded the president and lied to him and pretty much drove himself out of the legal bar, I mean, the legal bar, we put it out. The minute he said -- the minute he started putting stuff out about that Cuomo tape where there was much of this horrible subterfuge, hiding his tape recorder or a phone. HANNITY: Will these people made public all of them? GIULIANI: All of them made public eventually. HANNITY: They all eventually will. What about the Mueller's team-- GIULIANI: And they all -- and I wish they were made public tonight. HANNITY: What about the Mueller team, Andrew Weissmann who excoriated by judges withholding exculpatory evidence? (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: Andrew Weissmann having been at long time prosecutor of the Justice Department, Andrew Weissmann would be regarded by many defense lawyers and prosecutors as a disgrace to the -- he has had cases reversed. He has been excoriated by judges-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I know, but the Supreme Court. GIULIANI: He's done something -- this might sound like a strange thing but he has with withheld exculpatory evidence. You know what that means? He's got evidence that I'm innocent and he keeps it. HANNITY: That you being-- (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: And he sends an innocent man to jail. HANNITY: Four Merrill Lynch executives went to jail for a year-- (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: (Inaudible) man to jail. You know that's a nightmare as a prosecutor. It was built into me by Bob Morgan's book when I first became and by Whitney (Inaudible). We have a lot of guilty people to prosecute. Damn it, you don't prosecute an innocent one. And when it's close to the line-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Give them the benefit of the doubt. GIULIANI: -- Silvio Murrow (Ph) who taught me this. He used to say to me, Silvio was a New York guy, he said, you know something? If you let them go, no big problem. They'll be back again. HANNITY: That's probably true. What about, how does Jeannie Rhee work for the Clinton Foundation and get on that team? GIULIANI: How did the guy who gave 36 grand to the Democratic Party get on the team? How did -- how did the guy who was crying at Hillary's-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Why would they want to do that? GIULIANI: Because he's, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. He's so arrogant he doesn't care about appearances. All of us have to admit. Do you realize if a Republican did that with the New York Times would have done? Had I been need a special prosecutor for Hillary Clinton and I hired Ken Starr? HANNITY: Look, Mr. Mayor, good to see you. GIULIANI: Good. HANNITY: I really do like the ring but I'm glad you had to pay for it though. GIULIANI: I do. HANNITY: That would have been controversial. GIULIANI: And the free others. HANNITY: Yes. All right. When we come back, President Trump took up with the illegal immigration crisis at the southern border. We have drastic actions. Michelle Malkin weighs on that. This will be a key issue in 99 days, straight ahead. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We need border security. Border security includes the wall but it includes many other things. We have to end the lottery, we have to end the CHAIN. The CHAIN is like a disaster, you bring one person in and you end up with 32 people. We have to end these horrible catch and relieve -- release principles, where you catch somebody, if you take their name and you released them. You don't even know who they are. And then it's supposed to come back to a court case where they want us to hire thousands of judges. The whole thing is ridiculous. We have to change our laws and we will do that through Congress. So I would certainly be willing to close it down to get it done. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. That was the president earlier today reiterating his comments from over the weekend and that is today, the DOJ announced, quote, "A Jordanian national residing in Monterey, Mexico was arrested on Saturday on arrival at JFK airport to face criminal complaint issued in the western district of Texas for his role in the scheme to smuggle special interest aliens from Mexico into the U.S." DOJ goes on to explain that the Jordanian national conspired to smuggle six Yemeni nationals across our southern border in exchange for a fee. By the way, also I would like to correct something in the last segment with the mayor. I misspoke, I mentioned former New York City mayor David Dinkins, I meant Governor Paterson when we talk about Yankee tickets. I apologize. I know both men very well and get along with them great. I just disagree with them both especially I love seeing Mayor Dinkins at U.S. Open tennis every year. Joining us now, she is the host to CRTV's hit show Michelle Malkin Investigates, an award winning show. They somehow screwed up and gave an award to a conservative, I have no idea how. How are you? So this is the agenda. They want to impeach the president, they want their crumbs back. They want to eliminate ICE, they want open borders, they want Obamacare and they want investigations to end. That is, if I'm wrong, if there is something I'm missing that the Democrats are offering the American people please tell me because that's what all they either or all they want to do. MICHELLE MALKIN, HOST, CRTV: Yes, that's the bottom line, Sean. It's not just about abolishing ICE, it's about abolishing every last founding principles that has helped preserve the greatness of our country. And with particular to immigration, I cannot tell you how relieved I am, Sean, that we have a president who made promises to forgotten men and women in this country and it's keeping them. And he's not just fighting the open borders Democrats, he's fighting the beltway establishment, the U.S. chamber of commerce types, the corporate interest that have aligned themselves with the radical left to try and sabotage our immigration laws and make us less safe and less prosperous. Everything that President Trump mentioned, CHAIN migration, the diversity visa lottery, catch and release are policies that I have underscored have weakened our country since I came out with invasion. I was talking about the diversity visa lottery on your show 16 years ago, Sean. HANNITY: I know, I remember. MALKIN: And it is a sign of beltway GOP fecklessness that we've got Mitch McConnell once again saying wait. HANNITY: After the election. MALKIN: Wait, American people. HANNITY: Yes. MALKIN: How many times did they say that? It is Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football and people have had enough of it because this is the losing bargain that we should have learned from 1986. And the Reagan amnesty never worked. Amnesty first, enforce it later and it never, ever comes. HANNITY: Just like the tax increase, you never get the spending cut. You always get it reversed. MALKIN: That's right. HANNITY: Here's an important question. So I think the president's message by saying he would be willing to shut down the government, I don't know. Republicans are afraid if Obama is the president they'll be blamed for a shutdown, Trump is the president they're afraid. This is afraid generally speaking. But my question is very specific. I don't think his message was for Chucky and Nancy Pelosi. I think his message was specifically for McConnell and Ryan. I'm not, you're going to fund the wall. I keep my promises whether you do or not. And I think he should follow through on it. MALKIN: Yes, I absolutely do too, otherwise we're going to get a repeat of the same kind of disasters we had under the Bush administration where the Secure Fence Act was signed with great hullabaloo in 2006, and we still have 400 or 500 miles of unprotected border that was supposed to have a fence on it more than a decade ago. People are tired of those same promises and expedience where the grassroots of the Republican Party are used, abused and exploited and then toss out of the window as soon as these people are re-elected. Thank goodness Paul Ryan is going to be out of there. And I think that Jim Jordan is exactly the kind of change-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So the question-- MALKIN: -- in the swamp that we need. HANNITY: OK. I'm asking every conservative I know because this for some conservative -- I'm not -- I'm not a -- I'm not even a registered -- I'm a registered conservatives which you can do in New York. But for real conservatives that find themselves in a position that their particulars congressman or congresswoman or senator is a rhino. And now we know what the Democratic agenda is, to impeach, crumbs back, open borders, Obamacare, and stop the investigations into the deep state. What do they say if they want or vote for a rhino, I say it's too important for the president's agenda and for forward progress for the country that you have to suck it up. I hate to tell people to suck it up. I hate to say it's the better of two evils but it really is in this case. MALKIN: Well, those are cost benefit calculations that every voter has to make and we have to continue to put pressure on and expose the radical leftist within the Republican Party who are essentially undercover agent-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But they are not going to vote to impeach the president. They are not going to -- they're not going to align themselves with Pelosi and Maxine Waters and other radical Democrats in the House to try to impeach this man and stop all progress for the country which has been pretty phenomenal in 18 months. MALKIN: Well I would say that it is buyer beware, and you have to make sure that these people are not going to betray you because we've seen that over and over and over again-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I am with you. MALKIN: -- whether it's on immigration or not. Yes. HANNITY: You yelled at me once because I made the lesser too evil choice. I remember the phone call. But it was done in love and I deserved it I think at the time. All right. Michelle Malkin, great to see you. MALKIN: Be well. HANNITY: When we come back, Trump derangement syndrome is so bad, it's so out of control. We've got more to show you, straight ahead. HANNITY: Yesterday the president took on the corrupt mainstream media in a series of tweets saying they were quote, "driven insane by Trump derangement syndrome." Of course the mainstream corrupt destroy-Trump media famed outrage as usual over the tweet, but the president has a point. Just look at what two media so-called legend said over the weekend. They are heroes. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CARL BERNSTEIN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Cohen was saying that Donald Trump, the candidate for president of the United States at the time had authorized that go-ahead for that meeting to take place with his son. And I said, this is news, as did CNN. So liken in Watergate, you have a very serious news organization, CNN, in Watergate, the Washington Post making judgments about what is news and that's really the most important thing that we do when we go out and do our reporting. DAN RATHER, FORMER WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Donald Trump is authoritarian. He wants people to believe that the only truth the one and only truth comes from him. Orwell, you know, what he wrote it's practically a shooting script on Donald Trump. I'm not suggesting that Donald Trump read it, the evidence is he doesn't read very much. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That's who we count on, Dan Rather, on the other level. Great. Here with reaction, Salem radio talks shows these nationally syndicated Larry Elder, and former Secret Service agent and NRA TV contributor. All right. Larry, I didn't even say anything and you are laughing. But the reality is, just look at the most corrupt news man ever who made crap up. I'd love to say what he really made up. He made it up. LARRY ELDER, SYNDICATED RADIO SHOW HOST: Sean, where does one start with this Trump derangement syndrome. Trump is being hammered because he did not accept the findings of his intelligence community as to the Russian meddling, right? Well, these are the same people who accused George W. Bush of lying us into the war even though George W. Bush relied on all 16, the unanimous opinion of all 16 of our intelligence agencies that said Saddam Hussein has stockpiles and said that at the highest levels of certainty. So George W. Bush relied on the intelligence community, the very same people slamming Donald Trump accused George W. Bush of lying us into the war. And where do you start with the New York Times? They don't have a single columnist, not even there a conservative who is pro Trump. So there's a lot of antagonism towards the president from the Washington Post, from the New York Times and President Trump has given to that. It's about time. HANNITY: You know, they're so upset over the president not only saying fake news but enemy of the people. I just think what the president say, in my interpretation, Dan Bongino, is, they basically saying you're not serving the American people truth. You tell a lot of lies. You have an agenda, therefore if you don't do your job, that's where that comment to me comes from. And then I look at the New York Times, you know, the New York Times is competing articles the day after Election Day 2020. They live in like a fantasy world for them which is really bizarre. DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: Yes. Sean, put yourself here for a second. I know it's tough because you're a rational personal in the eyes in the seat of a mainstream media figure today, right? You know, years ago, right, you know this and Larry knows it, too. We were told what, don't tassel with the mainstream media, they buy ink by the barrel you're going to lose. The mainstream media knew that. They were like, this is great. We can crush conservatives in a heartbeat, all we have to do is impugn you by calling you a racist or anything ending in an Easter foe and you were finished. That was the model, right? Donald Trump not only scrapped that model, he actually made his brand reversing the model and hitting the media back. I don't think the media think it is. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I don't think they recover. Larry, I don't think they recover. BONGINO: I don't think they recover-- HANNITY: Larry? ELDER: I don't think they had either. BONGINO: Trump's poll is going up. ELDER: And along came social media and Twitter and now Trump can communicate to 100 million Americans without having to go through the Washington Post or CNN or the New York Times. And let's remember the Washington Post has never endorse a Republican president in its history. The New York Times hasn't endorse one since 1956. So Donald Trump is recognizing this. He knows he's going to take them on and he's been able to do so in a very effective fashion. I'm impressed. HANNITY: I -- you got two cable networks and I know that you think their - - maybe they believe their own B.S., Dan Bongino, maybe they do. But it's every minute of every day, seven days a week for three long years now. BONGINO: Right. HANNITY: That they just obsessed on hating this president and feigning outrage every day. BONGINO: You know, I wonder that, too, though, Sean. I'm being serious, I know I can be sarcastic sometimes on your show sometimes but it's obviously not helping your business model. This print mediums are dying, right? CNN is losing to the Bob Ross reruns on PBS. Like people are watching beach house sales on HD TV from seven years ago rather than watching CNN. So you wonder why they sit around in a room and they say, OK. Like you have to believe you almost want to believe for the sins of rationality that they do believe it, even though it's crazy. Because they be insane otherwise. HANNITY: All right. Thank you both. Larry, good to see you, and Dan Bongino, thank you. When we come back, the great one Rush -- well, I say Mark is the great one and the great Rush Limbaugh on President Trump's threat to shut down the government over border security. That is next, what does he say, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Rush Limbaugh had a great take today on President Trump threatening to shut down the government. What Republicans and the base think about at? Let's take a look at. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: Trump is showing he is not afraid of a government shutdown, which believed me, the base of this party loves. The base of the Republican Party -- we know now, by the way, when you have any poll that shows that Trump has 85 to 92 percent of the Republican Party, the Republican base is Trump's now. It's not a bunch of populist nationalists. It's a mainstream of the Republican Party that supports Trump. And they hate this cowering before the Democrats in the media over government shut downs. They hate giving up every policy idea in the face of the blackmail the government shutdowns. So they love Trump saying, he'd be willing to do it over this because the issue of immigration is what got him elected. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I'm with Rush. Shut it down. Shut it down. The people are with the president. All right. That's all the time we have left this evening. Remember, this show was always going to be fair and balanced. We are not and never will be the destroy-Trump media. We got a couple of big things coming up this week, I won't tell you now but I will tell you later in the week. Load-Date: July 31, 2018 End of Document Kochs Against Trump and His Policies?; New Michael Cohen Allegations; Criticism Over President Trump Suggesting Possible Government Shut Down; Mueller Probe: How Much Longer Will it Drag on? Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST July 30, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8585 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Monica Crowley, John Solomon, Chris Hahn, Byron York, Charles McCullough Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: She's actually in the next studio over. Ingraham is here. So I saw somebody this weekend, last night is a matter of fact, she said, why do you call Laura Ingraham? Like the INGRAHAM ANGLE? You purposefully mispronounce her name. And I'm like she calls me Hannity, so I call her Ingraham. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Where have they been for the past 20 years? That's all I can say. Hannity, will you announce our -- HANNITY: Oh right. So we got to make an announcement. Can we make it now? INGRAHAM: Yeah, go ahead. HANNITY: We were all together tonight, I got to see you and Tucker, which is great, because I don't always get to see you guys. The next time we are together, we will all come on the show had to have a little powwow. INGRAHAM: A little bit. And there is a tennis charity, tennis tournament that we will do. HANNITY: I don't play -- I haven't picked up a tennis racket in years. I play golf like an old person. INGRAHAM: Oh, my God. You -- first of all you've challenged me over the years to so many tennis tournaments, and you are like, Oh I can beat you in tennis. Now I've been finally playing tennis, I can play -- HANNITY: When a 10-year-old -- when my daughter was ten, and she killed me, I think it was time to give it up. INGRAHAM: All right, Hannity, you chickened out again. HANNITY: Have a great show. INGRAHAM: Great to see you. Have a great rest of the night. And good evening, everyone. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is the INGRAHAM ANGLE, live from New York City. We have a -- is it immodest to say, a riveting show for you? Well OK, it's immodest. Rudy Giuliani has more than a few new comments about the Mueller probe and some new allegations by Michael Cohen. We will try to make sense of it all for you. Plus, why might the TSA be spying on you when you board a plane? This is -- I got to say, it is a story even I can't believe but there you have it, we'll get to it. And there are new developments in the case of a police officer shot in Florida by someone who was here on a visa, we are still trying to determine whether he was legally or illegally here. We'll give you the very latest. Plus, first, the elite still don't get it. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Over the weekend, the libertarian-leaning Koch Network hosted a Rocky Mountain Retreat where donors and political leaders. Well they use the occasion not to amplify and cheer the president's policies, but to decry them. Eighty-two-year-old Charles Koch has taken the reins of the network. He released this video in advance of the retreat. Now he claims opportunities in the global marketplace are creating anxiety and the loss of jobs at home. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHARLES KOCH, BILLIONAIRE INDUSTRIALST: In response, we are seeing the rise in protectionists, for countries, organizations, and individuals are trying to protect themselves from these changes. They are doing whatever they can to close themselves off from the new, hold onto the past, and prevent change. This is a natural tendency, but it's a destructive one. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Destructive? Let me tell you about destruction, sir. One can also make the argument that selling out American workers and offering up our industries in our marketplace for the gods of globalism is also pretty destructive. Now the Kochs have become billionaires by building and buying amazing companies, they are really smart guys -- from steel, lumber, nylon manufacturers. Over the last 20 years, they have grown their wealth by focusing, in large part, on global operations. Some of that includes outsourcing jobs and relocating plans overseas. Today, Koch has a presence in over 50 (ph) countries. They have nearly 120,000 people. Only 65,000 of those people are in the United States. And look, God bless them. But America shouldn't be facilitating the outsourcing of jobs, even through really lame policies, like regulation, or through poorly negotiated trade deals. And don't get me wrong. The Kochs have done great work on tax reform, stuff like deregulation, and also in the area of education. Last year they spent $90 million on university programs, and they are committed to expanding their support for K-12 education. I have a question for you. How effective will their education efforts be if Americans enter a world where China dominates most major industries? Including the areas of STEM, science, technology, and so forth, including things like artificial intelligence. We can't just look the other way while China and a lot of other countries, by the way, gain (ph) the global trading system and rack up huge trade surpluses. Also of course IP, theft, unfair subsidies, and so forth. Any fair-minded person would have to agree with her at the White House Economic Advisor Larry Kudlow, a free trader himself, said over the weekend. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LARRY KUDLOW, DIRECTOR, U.S. NATIONAL ECONOMIC COUNCIL: People will say, well, Trump's tariffs are damaging this, that, and the other thing. I say, don't blame President Trump. He inherited a completely broken world trading system, including a World Trade Organization, most particularly China, but not only China. Okay? He's trying to fix it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now remember the Kochs supported that job and sovereignty killing Trans-Pacific Partnership, and the NAFTA agreement that of course Bush, Obama, and until the campaign, at least, Hillary championed. The Koch Network, like the rest of the GOP Old Guard, is positively furious with Trump's use of tariffs to level the playing field. In fact, they announced last month that they have committed to a multimillion dollar, multi-year campaign to oppose what Trump is doing on trade. I have a question, though. Why would they want to lock us into these never-ending trade deficits when the president's efforts so far are actually bearing fruit? We saw what happened with the E.U. last week. South Korea already renegotiated their deal. And watch what happens in the next few weeks with both Mexico and China. It's going to be really good. Meanwhile, American workers, and even farmers, some have been caught in the cross fire of Trump's tough trade battle with China. But they are standing by the president. Why? Well, they like that he is fighting for them even if it hurts their interest in the short term. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am a good American. I believe that we all have to have two tow the line. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are okay with bearing the brunt of these tariffs? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Am I willing to take my lumps for the benefit of the entire country? Yes, I personally am. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are willing to weather the storm for a certain amount of time? But how long is too long? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well the Scottish in me says to the death. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh, the Scottish in him. I love that. Don't you want that kind of deep sense of patriotism? They want to make money obviously, but they are also deeply patriotic Americans, and they are willing to take that hit. I think the Kochs can learn a lot from those regular Americans and what they said. I love it tape. Trump's immigration plan, by the way, also displeases the Old Guard in the GOP, that big republican donor class. Now why? Why are they so fixated on that? Because they love the flood of cheap labor into our market. But Trump sees the border and enforcement and the whole deal at our southwest border very differently, and he articulated it today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Our countries have learned through hard experience that border security is national security. They are one and the same. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Arguments of national security and culture are totally lost on the billionaire set. But for most Americans, these are major concerns. Now the Koch Network is taking it a step further. They are now going so far as to financially punish of some politicians who are supportive of the president's agenda. They announced today that they will not be supporting GOP's North Dakota Senate candidate, Kevin Kramer, who's trying to unseat democrat Heidi Heitkamp. Now what is the Koch reason for that? Well, the republican candidate supported Trump on both trade and immigration. At that confab I was mentioning earlier in Colorado, Charles Koch made a big deal about "uniting people who were previously divided." What does that mean? Like how are these latest retaliatory efforts actually doing that? Trump is the one uniting people, for all the talk of divisiveness, Trump enjoys an 88 percent approval rating among republicans, according to "The Wall Street Journal," NBC poll. Only George W. Bush in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 saw support like that. But the Koch Network and others talk a good game about unity, embracing change and seizing opportunities. But when the president comes along who is actually embracing a new path, something different, on behalf of the American people, let's try a new thing now, the Kochs and the globalists just have their blinders on. They won't have any of it. I had to laugh when on the AP feature on the Koch retreat, it said the following, "Democrats who invested extraordinary time and resources into attacking the Koch brothers in recent years, conclude that at least in the area of Trump, the billionaire industrialist, are no longer the left's number one enemy." Yeah, that's funny how that works. That is because republicans lack the leader for so many years that the Kochs were the only game in town. But now, the left has a new enemy. It's Trump. And they are resisting him at every turn. Sadly, the Kochs are too often joining in their ranks. Like the Bushes, the Koch brothers did not support Donald Trump in 2016. Think about that. But they have certainly reaped the benefits of Trump's thriving economy. Are they prepared to take their profits that they made over the last two years and what -- donate it to Elizabeth Warren because that's going to great for their business? You think that they're actually going to give them a better deal on the things they believe in, tax reform, regulation, so forth? What a pity. If the Kochs and their well-heeled donors miss the opportunity to support the president and be a part of the America first unity that people believe in. And that is THE ANGLE. Joining us now the reaction, the "Washington Examiner's" Byron York, democrat and radio talk show host Chris Hahn and Monica Crowley from the London Center for Policy Research. Great to see all of you. Monica, the Koch brothers have done a lot of good things, no doubt about it. But it is wild to hear them rail on about Trump's use of a tool that Bush used, Obama used, Reagan used, and is one of the classic tools of our economic negotiation throughout American history. MONICA CROWLEY, POLITICAL COMMENTATOR, LONDON CENTER FOR POLICY RESEARCH: Yes, this is yet another example of the empire striking back against Donald Trump. Trump ran on this premise that he was going to come in and smash the corrupt existing order, the corrupt status quo. And that meant the elite ruling class on both sides of the aisle, the media, and the networks like the Kochs, who are so deeply invested in the globalist agenda. He promised that he was going to smash all of that and actually represent the American worker, the American taxpayer, and America's economic interests. The reason we have Donald Trump, among many reasons, Laura, is because he went out into the heartland and he said, you know what? I see you, I hear you, and I will be your champion. Now after just a year and a half and the presidency, he has delivered on this economic policy to exactly those people. And therefore, he represents an existential threat to the Kochs, to the left, to the right, deeply invested in a cheap labor - - INGRAHAM: They agree on the lot of the big issues. We've made that point before, they agree on trade, on immigration -- and Chris Hahn, is it the case where it's the enemy of my enemy is my friend? I mean if I can go back -- Byron's written about this -- if you can put a loop together of what the democrats said about the Kochs of the years, now suddenly they're against for Trump's doing on tariffs and "The New York Times" is saying, "oh, maybe it's time to take a second look at the Koch brothers." I find that hilarious. Go ahead. CHRIS HAHN, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: I don't have enemies, and I don't think people should have enemies. In domestic policy you have opponents and people you disagree with but not enemies, but on -- INGRAHAM: OK you know what I mean, don't be such a stickler. We're having fun here. HAHN: I know what you meant, but on the Kochs, I was listening to my good friend, Monica, just now, talking about the Kochs, I say they are consistent. They were never for trade barriers. They would never stand for the $15 billion bailout to the farmers in the Midwest of the president is doing, something that Monica would have called socialism had Obama done it during his term. The Kochs are consistent and they are consistent in their message. I don't trust that they will support liberals. They haven't said that they will support democrats. They said they will stay out of Heidi Heitkamp's race. They didn't say they would give her money. They're still going to spend about $400 million on the midterms to try to elect republicans and conservatives who agree with their viewpoint. They are still going to be active in politics -- INGRAHAM: But what we're saying Chris, no one is saying they are not consistent. What we're saying is, their time has come and gone. They have a lot of dough, they done some good with it, there's a lot of philanthropy they've done. But the era of endless wars, Byron, and these global trade agreements, where America really can't get satisfaction, frankly, what Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders at different times, they've talked about these unfair trading regimes that benefit their well-heeled people, those days are over and the republican party. There is no constituency for it, why we have an 88 percent approval rating for Donald Trump. Byron? BYRON YORK, COLUMNIST, "WASHINGTON EXAMINER": Well, Donald Trump the candidate in 2016 really did blow up republican orthodoxy and some very, very key ways. And trade was one of those ways. Immigration actually was another. The Kochs have had kind of a complicated relationship with that because if you asked them last year, they were absolutely delighted with all of the deregulation that has been taking place under the president, happy with the tax cuts, too. Now very unhappy with trade and with immigration. I think a lot of republicans are really going to part with them on this North Dakota thing. For example, the Kochs are now spending about a million dollars to support the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. Well republican partisans would say, if you don't support republicans for the Senate, there's not going to be another Trump nominee to the Supreme Court. INGRAHAM: Right. That's why it's important to support the challenger to Heidi Heitkamp. Monica, there's a big talk about a potential shutdown now. You know, with the border wall. Trump said I'm not going to do this omnibus spending bill again. Let's watch what the president said today about this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We need border security. Border security includes the wall. But it includes many other things. We have to end the lottery. We have to end the chain. The chain is like a disaster. You bring one person and, you end up with 32 people. The whole thing is a ridiculous. And we have to change our laws, and we do that through Congress. So I would certainly be willing to close it down, to get it done. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The democrats are already going insane about this. Again, these Old Guard republicans are like oh if you do this this, it will blow the midterm election cycle. What are your thoughts? CROWLEY: Well, I think they're really afraid that Donald Trump means it. And you know what? He does. This is a man who relishes every single fight and when he says I'm willing to shut down the government unless I get real money to start this border wall, they know that he means it. So republicans and democrats alike are really afraid of this. Look, of the many reasons Donald Trump got elected in 2016, the primary one was illegal immigration, building the wall, and all of the attendant issues. Ending chain migration, ending the visa lottery -- INGRAHAM: They've done nothing. They've done nothing -- CROWLEY: Right. And he knows, in order to rouse his base going into the midterms, he needs to stick by this premise and shut down the government. INGRAHAM: Chuck Schumer had no problem shutting down the government when Trump was putting the pressure on with the DACA kids, and he wanted to give amnesty, and he was fine with shutting down the government. He tried to pass it off on Trump. It wasn't Trump. It was the democrats. Now Trump says, I'm not doing the omnibus thing. You should never have signed that other omnibus. He should have vetoed that back then and he wouldn't be in a situation now. But do you think the democrats are hoping for a shutdown? HAHN: No. I don't think we are because we don't want to see people hurt by it. I don't understand how Mick Mulvaney still has a job if the president was so upset with the budget that Mick Mulvaney wrote with Congress that the president signed. But I would say that's for the president. If he doesn't get his wall before this Congress leaves, he won't get this wall -- INGRAHAM: Right, right. HAHN: -- because the best-case scenario for him is that the republicans have a smaller majority than they have now. But they're more than likely going to be the minority in the House of Representatives. The president knows that so he's going to bat for it. So look, I get the strategy on his part because -- look, November is lost to them no matter what, so the president just might as well go all-in, put his chips on the table and see what he gets out of it because the democrats are taking the House and they might even take the Senate, and then there will never be a wall for him. And if he doesn't get the wall, he might not get re-elected. It's a real issue for him right now. INGRAHAM: Well you're predicting a lot of things there. You will hit mega millions. I mean come on. Byron -- look it's -- YORK: Please. I'd have a better backdrop. INGRAHAM: The House of Representatives might go democrats. This is the shot -- I think Chris is right about this -- this is the shot for the border wall. You don't get this money now, I don't think you will get it at all. But Mitch McConnell said - I wanna play this for you Byron -- Mitch McConnell was asked about this over the weekend and once again it's kick the can down the road McConnell, on this particular issue. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is the funding of the border wall going to wait until after the midterm election? SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R), KENTUCKY, SENATE MAJORITY LEADER: Probably. That is something we do have a disagreement on. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So Homeland security won't get funded before the midterms? MCCONNELL: Probably not. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are not worried about a government shutdown? MCCONNELL: No. That's not going to happen. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I love how he's so dismissive of it -- I kind of like that. But Byron, this is what they said last year. Remember, last year, oh, we're going to wait until next term. YORK: Exactly. INGRAHAM: The next term rolled around, and the republicans, they just don't want this wall. Let's face it. The GOP does not want this wall. YORK: You got to remember, this was the president's premier campaign promise. I went to a lot of Trump rallies, covered a lot of Trump rallies. This is what he said in every single one of them. And if he doesn't deliver on it, that he has not delivered on his biggest campaign promise. And I agree that, obviously, if the House goes democratic in November, just not going to happen. I think the president has not been focused enough on getting this. He has used other factors, like a chain migration or the visa lottery, thrown those into the mix, when perhaps the straight wall for DACA deal could have been done. But if it doesn't happen now, very, very good chance it's never going to happen. You have to remember, think about the Secure Fence Act of, what was it, 2006? INGRAHAM: Yeah. YORK: Congress, by big majorities, passed a rule to install triple layer fencing, really serious fencing-- INGRAHAM: Democrats were all for it. Democrats were all for it. YORK: -- along large parts of the border, passed with big majorities, both parties -- was never done because it was controlled by republicans -- INGRAHAM: It makes me sick. This makes -- I mean -- YORK: - and democrats never wanted to do it -- INGRAHAM: -- well, yeah, but -- HAHN: He had the deal -- he had the DACA for the wall deal. That's when what you called the Schumer shutdown happened. But that was the Trump shutdown because he pulled the deal out. And if he would've just stuck with -- INGRAHAM: No, he didn't. YORK: -- that deal like he wanted to do -- INGRAHAM: No, he didn't. YORK: -- and was talked out of it by members of his team. He had that deal and he was talked out of it. INGRAHAM: Chris, Chris -- he doubled the number of people who were going to get amnesty, he wanted an end of the perverted system of chain migration, which has tripled -- tripling the number of immigrants coming in every three years. It's ridiculous. That is what he wanted, and he wanted the end of visa lottery. So that all made sense. And he was going to give a doubling of the number of people who got amnesty. He didn't pull anything. He sweetened the deal, frankly. HAHN: He change the deal, he changed the deal. From what I've read and what I've seen -- INGRAHAM: It was what he campaigned on, and the democrats did not want to give him a victory on that. Guys, we are out of time. I wanted to get to one thing (ph), but we don't have time. We'll have to do it next time. Guys, fantastic segment. Thank you so much. And by the way, Rudy Giuliani, boy, he launched a media blitz to take out Mueller, did you check that out? And Michael Cohen. What does it mean? That show down over the Russia probe. Well next. INGRAHAM: Rudy G. has been lighting up the airways today, launching a fresh salvo against the Mueller probe and former Trump attorney Michael Cohen. And Rudy addressed report accusations by Cohen of a separate premeeting among top Trump campaign officials before the infamous 2016, June 2016, Trump Tower meeting with Russian nationals. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUDY GIULIANI, DONALD TRUMP'S ATTORNEY: There was another meeting that has been leaked, but hasn't been public yet. There was a meeting, an alleged meeting, three days before. According to Cohen -- or according to the leak, maybe Cohen will withdraw this, I don't know, he said there was a meeting with Donald, Jr., Jared Kushner, with Paul Manafort, with Gates and possibly two others, and which they come out of the presence of the president, discussed the meeting with the Russians. We checked with their lawyers. That meeting never, ever took place. It didn't happen. It's a figment of his imagination or he's lying. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What to make of that? Here to discuss, John Solomon, opinion contributor at "The Hill" and General Charles McCullough, is a former inspector general who was targeted in the past for his investigation into Hillary Clinton's e-mail server. Gentlemen, it's good to see both of you. John, you've done a lot of reporting on this, I have to get you on this first. Rudy was all over the place over the weekend. And that little exchange on a premeeting, saying -- kinda pricked up everybody's ears. What do we know about that? JOHN SOLOMON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR, "THE HILL": I did a lot of reporting a year ago when the story first broke on this meeting. If Bob Mueller was still interested in that meeting right now, seriously interested in it, Cohen's case would not be sitting in a southern district of New York. It would be sitting in the prosecutor's office. I think there's a lot of hot air on this particular focus that doesn't actually amount too much. There is just not any evidence that Mueller has been that interested in it for some period of time. And meanwhile, there's a lot of defense -- there's a lot of things -- I will say this, there is no tweet that the president could issue, there is no defense that his lawyers can put out there, there is no bar that any politician can put out there that will change more the course of the Russia investigation then if the president were to declassify the remaining parts of the FISA memo. That is where this story lies. And when that is released, I think the American public will learn a lot about the flaws in the investigation, the circular intelligence reporting that occurred, and whether there is any evidence of collusion, which I don't believe there is based on my reporting. Also I think we're going to learn there was other tactics, other ways of gathering information about the president, that have not yet been revealed. And when they are revealed, they will be very troubling to the American public. INGRAHAM: It sounds like you're doing some pre-reporting there John, I'm looking forward to reading your piece. SOLOMON: Maybe a little. INGRAHAM: Charles, you get the sense that this is coming to a head here, both with whether the president will testify and the intensity of Giuliani's comments about Mueller and Cohen. We're going to get to your experience with the Hillary e-mail investigation, what happened to you as inspector general. But what is your take on where -- how long this has dragged on for and where we are today with this Mueller probe? CHARLES MCCULLOUGH, FORMER INSPECTOR GENERAL: Well, it's gone on for well over a year. And there's nothing wrong with the administration putting a hard deadline on this. They shouldn't interfere with the investigation. Investigators get to do what they do. But there is certainly nothing wrong, these things can't go on forever. They are stressful for everyone involved. You have numerous people having to expend great amounts of money for legal fees. So they should put a hard deadline on this and stick to it. INGRAHAM: Well I think that again, we have a scenario here, where Bob Mueller took on this investigation, not as an independent counsel, but as a special prosecutor. And there's a fight going on now about whether the president is going to testify. Clearly, from the beginning, the president was like, oh, I'll testify. But you run these investigations, you know, sending your client in to testify in this open-ended fashion would be nightmarish. I think it would be terrible for the administration. John, do you get any sense that we're going anywhere except a federal court, and probably all the way to the Supreme Court, to decide whether the president is going to be compelled to answer Mueller's questions? SOLOMON: You know, the special counsel Mueller could have issued that subpoena a long time ago. It's been clear this has not been moving in any direction what was going to come to a resolution. A lot of conversation, no resolution. If you wanted to make it happen, he could have issued that subpoena a while ago. My gut tells me that they know what they need to know about the president, they know enough to write whatever reports they're going to write and pursue whatever prosecutions they're going to pursue. I don't get a sense of a major constitutional crisis on the horizon. I could be wrong. But he would've issued that subpoena a while ago if he had so chosen. INGRAHAM: Charles, I want to get your thoughts on the client (ph). About nine months ago or so, you revealed to Catherine Herridge that you were targeted by Hillary's allies for blowing the whistle on her illegal server. Now the president is routinely mocked for continuing to bring this issue up, it sticks in his craw, and in the craw of a lot of us. You said that last November that's at risk due to Hillary's irresponsible handling of the classified information and quote "sources and methods, lives and operations, were all at risk." Go into more of that if you could. MCCULLOUGH: Well certainly. It sticks in my craw, too because we started this whole thing and we ended up referring it to the FBI. But yeah, there were a lot of classified documents, highly classified documents, that were among this cache of documents that were on her private server. And there were open threats made to my folks who are looking into this, and to me, it is well documented at this point. It hit me the other day when there was this conversation about whether Jim Clapper should lose his clearance or Director Brennan, and I don't think anybody can answer right now whether or not Hillary is still cleared. I'm thinking she's probably still cleared at this point. So that is probably part of that whole security clearance discussion. INGRAHAM: So what about the other players, Charles? MCULLOUGH: Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin -- INGRAHAM: Cheryl Mills -- you know do they have clearances still? MCCULLOUGH: I defy anyone to get a straight answer on whether or not any of them are still cleared. My sense is they probably are. I certainly would have heard if they weren't. I think we all would have heard if they weren't by now. This State Department was supposed to look at that some time ago and I never heard anything about it. INGRAHAM: Well, we have a lot more to get into. And Charles, you're going to stay with us because we have a shocking investigation into how the TSA may be spying on you as you check in for your flight. This is a mind- blowing report. Every American has to see this, coming up next. INGRAHAM: The TSA is tracking American citizens on flights without their knowing it. Even if they have not been suspected of any crime or if they are under investigation at all. "The Boston Globe" reporting that this previously undisclosed program known as Quiet Skies -- what the heck? This program is now generating significant criticism from within the TSA. Here with us to discuss is "Boston Globe" reporter Jana Winter who broke this story. And we are also rejoined by former inspector general of the intelligence community during the Obama years, Chuck McCullough. This is a wild thing. First of all, Jana, great story on this, incredible reporting. Quiet Skies, it sounds so placid and lovely. But what is this deal, because it seems to me that none of this know about it. I've never heard Congress talk about it. Does it work? And how could we be tracked? JANA WINTER, "BOSTON GLOBE" SPOTLIGHT FELLOW: Here is what we know. We know that thousands of ordinary Americans who are suspected of no crime, and who aren't on any watch list are being followed by teams of armed undercover air marshals on domestic flights throughout the United States. When we reported this story on Sunday, there has been a bit of outrage, I suppose, and at least four committees on the Hill have demanded answers from TSA. So TSA will be briefing four committees at least later this week. INGRAHAM: You did great reporting, enough to get everybody's attention. Big piece that just came out an hour ago, I know you saw it because it is your piece, "Lawmakers demand answers on Quiet Skies, surveillance program, after the "Globe" report." These Congressmen are going nuts about this now, as they should. By the way, here's a behavior checklist, Chuck, because I read this checklist, and I am like I just flew this morning to New York. I experienced all of these things, or at least observed them. Excessive fidgeting, strong body odor, cold penetrating stare -- that is a lady who wouldn't help with the overhead -- wide open staring eyes, exaggerated emotions, and facial flushing. That is just to name a few. What is this, Chuck, go ahead. Tell us why this is smart. MCCULLOUGH: We've been running around for years telling people, if you see something say something. INGRAHAM: Or smell something apparently. MCCULLOUGH: Or if you smell something or somebody's got a stare. Look, those items came from some study somewhere that the government I'm sure paid dearly for. But I am glad that the TSA is doing this. This is why we pay the air marshals. But we have been telling people to do this for regular citizens, if you see something say something. And yet we have 1811 law enforcement officers who are on the plane that were going -- they are not following people home. As long as they are on -- INGRAHAM: What are they doing? This is what I want to do. Are they keeping a database of people's names, observations about them? If these people have done nothing wrong, if they're American citizens, and have done nothing wrong -- MCCULLOUGH: If somebody darts into restroom and changes, two, three, four times in the airport -- INGRAHAM: Maybe it's an adult diaper. Maybe you are cold on a plane. MCCULLOUGH: OK, well, it's irregular, and someone should note that somewhere. If they don't note it and something happens, then guess what happens? They get blamed for it. INGRAHAM: Go ahead, Jana. Chuck is really smart, but I'm surprised that I disagree with him. Go ahead, Jana. WINTER: The reason why this story is out and the reason why I knew anything about this to begin with is because the air marshals who are literally working these lights have said, this is not the best use of taxpayer money and this is leaving us vulnerable as a country and on aircraft, because we are diverting our resources to follow people who are not suspected of anything. INGRAHAM: This was started in 2010. Everyone should know. This has been going on for eight years. And I hope the inspector general of Homeland Security, if we even have one. Do we have one, by the way, Chuck? MCCULLOUGH: I think there is an acting over there, John Roth. INGRAHAM: OK, I hope John gets to examine whether this -- maybe it works, maybe it doesn't violate Fourth Amendment concerns. MCCULLOUGH: There are going to be individual cases of misconduct, but if they have guidelines, and guidelines can be enforced, you are going to have problems case-by-case. But we have been telling people for years, if you see something, say something. INGRAHAM: But that is people, that's not the government. We have a Constitution. The people can do anything. MCCULLOUGH: Well, we don't want the government to say something if they see something? INGRAHAM: We are talking about databases. Go ahead, Jana. WINTER: One, this is not see something, say something. These are trained law enforcement officers who take it very seriously to become whistleblowers. This is not, as you know, this is not a decision made lightly to come forward about this program. They truly feel that we are putting the country at risk by following people when there is no reason to be doing so and collecting vast, minute-by-minute information about what they're doing from the moment they are spotted and identified by the gate at the departure airport up to taking note of the license plate of the vehicle that picks him up in the arrival city. Everyone they talk to, every type of phone, every phone conversation, are they on a computer, are they sleeping? This is a lot more then see something, say something. It is just not that. This is above and beyond, and these are ordinary Americans -- MCCULLOUGH: I'm glad they are doing it, and I hope they keep doing it because that is what we pay them to do. INGRAHAM: John, I don't -- I mean, Chuck, I don't pay them to be keeping the tabs on grandma who happens to have facial flushing and face touching. MCCULLOUGH: We don't know this is grandma. We are looking for irregularities, which is I'm sure that list came from somewhere. You can enforce controls -- INGRAHAM: Wait a second. WINTER: That's not the best defense. INGRAHAM: Wait a second, wait a second. Chuck, you as inspector general of the intel committee, saw all this irregularity with big government. You saw regularity in frankly stuff that was happening that could have hurt national security. So you saw people with good intentions go totally awry, correct? MCCULLOUGH: This is different. We are not leaving the airport, my understanding is. These are people in planes and in the airport who are doing things like ducking into a bathroom and changing three or four times in a very short period of time. That's weird. And that is irregular behavior. WINTER: That is not with this program is doing, though, respectfully. INGRAHAM: Guys, let me just say, one of the other things on the checklist, by the way, the TSA has an $800 million budget. That is all I'll say. Gripping -- WINTER: But there is less than 3,000 flying air marshals. There is more than 40,000 domestic flights a day. If you are choosing to follow people who are not suspected of any crime and who are not -- INGRAHAM: No one wants to be profiled. We don't want to do what Israel does because that offends people. Maybe that is why we are doing it. WINTER: We don't have enough people to be doing it. This is what the air marshals are saying. MCCULLOUGH: This has been going on for eight years. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: Guys, Guys, come on. I want to add another piece of data here, OK, because we are going to get more answers on this, I hope, this week, and that is because Jana did the reporting and I'm happy we are having this conversation. Maybe some good can come of this, but right now it makes my antenna go up. Here are some of the other things. Rapid eye blinking. Adam's apple jumps. I guess that is when you swallow. And then gripping or white- knuckling bags. I white-knuckled my bags in Minnesota today because I was -- I mean, some of these things really are ridiculous. WINTER: Perhaps someone noticed. INGRAHAM: Maybe I'm being observed. MCCULLOUGH: If that is the comprehensive list, OK. But my guess is those are a few items out of a very much longer list. I would want context on that. WINTER: I can give you that context. INGRAHAM: Jana, keep on this story. We've got to keep reporting on this story. Thank you for being with us. Chuck, invaluable analysis from you. We are going to have you back. We haven't gotten to our Hillary email questions. We don't have time. We need a three hour show. The case of a Florida police officer shot by a Haitian immigrant takes a tragic turn. Stay with us. INGRAHAM: Less than a week after he was shot and wounded at a gas station while responding to a call, Florida police officer Adam Jobbers-Miller has tragically succumbed to his injuries. Miller's killer, Wisner Desmaret, as you may remember from our coverage last week, came to this country from Haiti when he was nine years old. He had managed to escape conviction in the past, but now ICE has filed an immigration detainer hold on him. Inexplicably, the city of Philadelphia just announced that they will no longer grant ICE access to arrest databases the one Wisner Desmaret was actually discovered on. Here to debate this is Claude Arnold, a former ICE special agent in charge of L.A., and immigration attorney Allen Orr. We were so worried about officer Jobbers-Miller over the weekend because he was in intensive care, and we thought he might be improving. But that came across my phone over the weekend. Your heart sinks, as it does for anyone gunned down in the United States. Tragic loss for his family and the community, the police all turned out to honor him of the weekend. But Claude, let's start with you here. People say, immigration, that's its own issue. Don't conflate the issues of illegal immigration or people who overstay a visa with a case that is as horrible and tragic as this because police officers are shot by American citizens, too. CLAUDE ARNOLD, FORMER ICE SPECIAL AGENT: Yes, sure. Look, I have been to far too many police officers funerals than I would like to have attended, and several who have been killed by people who are here illegally in the United States. And we have enough criminals and cop killers of our own. We certainly don't need to import any from elsewhere. The fact is, if Mr. Wisner Desmaret had been removed from the country -- he was here illegally -- then the police officer would be alive. INGRAHAM: Allen Orr? ORR: First, condolences to the family and community for losing an officer. I thank him for his service. But I think the issue tonight is, one, it's not clear for me from the court filings that this individual is undocumented or illegal. They are probably an immigrant with a green card that is deportable, but I haven't seen that in the facts. If you read the case hearing today, from his statements, it's clear that this person might have mental deficiencies, as he assumed that everyone was after him. So the thing I wanted to say tonight is that what is the issue in this case is not as immigration status but crime in the United States. And when we look at the failure of immigration, it is not at this individual immigrant, but we should be looking at Congress for they haven't done. INGRAHAM: Right now we find ourselves in a situation where people are still allowed to walk across our southwest border where there is no fence, or a fence that is have torn down or you can hop over easily, swim the Rio Grande. And ICE has stopped -- the border patrol, excuse me, has stopped MS-13 gang members, I think it was just last week or the week before, stopped known gang members who have actually been deported out of the country and stopped on their way back in. So there clearly is an effort by the cartels, by human traffickers, to bring people into the country, both illegally obviously, and also to help gang activity in the United States, to grow the gang ranks, to replenish gang ranks. That is just a fact. So while of course Americans commit crimes every day, we know that, I think we don't want more crime in the United States. We don't want more problems in our cities. We have kids that need help. We have allegory who need help. We have officers who are stretched with budgets that are stretched. We don't need any more problems. So Claude, right now, we have Philadelphia, brotherly love city, they are not going to be part of the database anymore. What could that do to hamper the apprehension and understanding of the people we are arresting for these particular crimes? ARNOLD: Real quickly, I would just like to say, in Wisner Desmaret's case, he came here as a visitor. The family applied for asylum, the information I have. It was denied. They were put in removal proceedings, he was ordered deported. But then, out of the generosity of this country, after the earthquake in Haiti, they were granted temporary protected status. And to show gratitude, he killed one of our heroes in blue. Now, his status had ended, so he should have been removed from the country. INGRAHAM: And had he been removed, we'd have an officer who is alive today. ARNOLD: Yes, exactly. INGRAHAM: Let's get to the Philadelphia story. The Philadelphia story is yet another example of sanctuary city policies going into effect. How this helps the people of Philadelphia is beyond me. Claude, quickly, then Allen gets the last word. ARNOLD: It doesn't help the people of Philadelphia, and this is just the city of Philadelphia doubling down. First they are harboring people here illegally by refusing to cooperate with ICE. And now they are refusing ICE access to the records so the people they release from jail, ICE can't track down using that information. I believe ICE should just issue subpoenas, and then when they refuse the subpoenas, they should initiate a criminal investigation, and U.S. attorney for the eastern district of Pennsylvania should convene a grand jury. INGRAHAM: Allen, the mayor of Philly was the same one who danced, literally did a Snoopy dance when he found out the judge ruled that they could to the sanctuary city policy. As a practical matter, how does this happen keep the citizens a safe? ORR: First, I'm going to move a little bit to my conservative side and say these are local people. The mayor was responding to the local community saying that they did not want to this rapid enforcement there. Two, in Philadelphia, the problem was not only was it criminals in the system, but it was also witnesses and other individuals related to crimes. And the problem was that ICE was spending too much time rounding on the low- hanging fruit rather than focusing on people who really are a danger to our community. That is a problem in immigration right now. We are not trying to sort people out, we are just saying every immigrant is a problem and we need to focus on that, and that is not leading to security. We need to recognize that we are not going to deport 1,200 million people. We don't have the money but for it. INGRAHAM: Yes, 12 million. 1,200 million, it will probably there soon, too. But appreciate it, great segment, guys. Thanks so much. And the gap between the elites and everyday Americans is widening. Ben Shapiro on what that means for the country next. INGRAHAM: What happens when a liberal journalist attends a Trump rally amongst the actual people? Writing in the "Chicago Sun-Times," columnist Neil Steinberg recounts last week's presidential rally that happened with the steelworkers, and he recounted it this way. "We need to steal, Trump said. We need steel plants. I look at the faces of you people, I could be one of you. I like you guys. That struck me as either sincere or an amazing facsimile. The workers, for their part, couldn't give him a standing ovation because they never sat down. I left the hall thinking, Donald Trump is going to be reelected in 2020. The Democrats don't have anyone who can touch him. Bank on it. Don't hate me for being the one to tell you." Joining me now for reaction is Ben Shapiro, editor of "The Daily Wire." Ben, I read that and I thought that's at least an honest liberal view. He hates Trump. He can't stand Trump. But going to the reality and seeing the reaction of the people and thinking Kamala Harris, or Cory Booker, are they really going to get the mojo going? What are your thoughts there? BEN SHAPIRO: I think that's exactly right. The culture war that has been raging in the country is really not a war between the elites and the non- elites. It is between the elitists and everyone else. People who think that jobs being lost of the "New York Daily News" is a national tragedy but jobs being lost in the steel industry is totally fine because those are a bunch of rubes in the rustbelt anyway. Why President Trump really does better than virtually any other politician on the American scene is he conveys that he really does care about people that are in these industries, people who are doing the so called dirty jobs that people on the coasts tend to think only illegal immigrants are willing to do. INGRAHAM: Ben, I did my "Angle" tonight on the Koch brothers who have done a lot of good stuff on tax reform and supporting Brett Kavanaugh and deregulation. They've done good stuff on that. But they are just adamant that even discussing tariffs is going to crater the global economy, it is going to be terrible. They have 60,000, or 65,000 workers overseas. They have 60,000 in the United States, but they have a lot overseas. So they are the older Republican guard, and they don't like this, and they're going to start finding some Democrats because they want to fight that Trump approach to trade. SHAPIRO: I think obviously funding Democrats is not the answer. I'm a free trader myself and I'm not particularly fond a tariff policy. But the real key here, again, I think is less policy driven then it is even cultural. The president obviously has a lot of sympathy for people who are in these industries that have paid a price due to trade. There is no question that there are winners and losers in trade. Overall, I think that trade is a great thing for the United States. I think free-trade is a great thing for the United States. But to pretend that there are no downsides to trade is not obviously telling the whole truth. INGRAHAM: Again, the results of the election in those rustbelt states, and they suffered the great job losses over the last 20 years, China being in the WTO, all these neocon hawks, Ben, who all they did was tell us we got to build up the military, we got to build up the military. That is great. I agree. But China is the big threat to America's dominance militarily and economically. So if just we grow their economy at the expense of our own, we are going to be in some trouble down the road. I also want to get some thoughts from you on something that is the opposite of what the "Chicago Sun-Times" columnist road. This was a piece published this morning imagining the day after Trump's reelection loss in 2020. OK, here it is. "As Trump seethed and tweeted in defeat late Tuesday, and President-elect Elizabeth Warren celebrated, the arc of the Trump story is starting to make more sense than it has for much of his chaotic presidency. The normal rules of politics do apply to Donald Trump after all." So now the time was up for Trump. They are already imagining his loss, which tells you, well, the derangement syndrome, whatever you want to call it, that cliche is already wearing thin, but they are not having to write about 2020 in 2018. SHAPIRO: I think they are desperate to take down President Trump right now. They are hoping obviously that 2016 was an outlier and they are going to blame it on anything. They'll blame it on Hillary Clinton being a bad candidate finally or they'll blame it on Russian collusion, which they have yet to prove. But they won't acknowledge that there is a systemic problem inside the Democratic Party, and screaming Medicare for all in running a Hillary Clinton clone like Elizabeth Warren is not going to fix the giant gap that they have with the middle of the country whom they still consider a bunch of better clingers working jobs that they would never deign to get their hands dirty doing. I am a guy who was from the coast. I'm from L.A. I spent some of my time in Cambridge, Massachusetts. I am an elite by any of these standards. But the bottom line is that the people in the middle of the country are doing work that is as important or more importantly than the people on the coast who are sitting in their coffeehouses writing scripts. INGRAHAM: You are not necessarily an elite. Just because you go to those nice institutions, if you understand the plight of the regular working person and you think that they have a role in our economy, you are not an elite. You're someone who went to good schools. SHAPIRO: I'm an elite but not elitist. President Trump actually made this distinction at a rally recently. He said, listen, the people in this audience are elites. If you are good at your job, if you work hard, if you do well in the United States, you are an elite by any standard, but you are not an elitist. And that is where the Democrats get it wrong. They thing that being an elitist is the important thing. INGRAHAM: Got it. Ben Shapiro, awesome segment as always. INGRAHAM: Remember, trade that isn't fair is just protectionism of a different sort. It's protectionism of cronyism. I bet you didn't see us taking on the Kochs and the surveillance state tonight, right. You would never see that coming. It was always going to be Mueller, Mueller, Mueller. No. A lot of other issues. We always want to hear what you have to say, so tweet me @IngrahamAngle, follow my tweets as well. There is a little Labrador retriever puppy that you have to see on my Twitter feed. Load-Date: July 31, 2018 End of Document Media Furor Over Cohen Tape; Trump Tower Account Leaked; Trump, Media Feud Over 'Reality'; CNN Reporter Disinvited Fox News Network MEDIA BUZZ 11:00 AM EST July 29, 2018 Sunday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7797 words Byline: Howard Kurtz, Guy Benson Guests: Sara Fischer, Adrienne Elrod Body HOWARD KURTZ, MEDIA BUZZ SHOW HOST, FOX NEWS: On "Buzz Media" this Sunday, a gusher of leaks as CNN reports Michael Cohen claims President Trump knew in advance about the Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer, vehemently denied by the president as his lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, today called Cohen a pathological liar. This follows the leak of a tape in which Cohen and his former boss talk about a possible payoff to a former Playboy model. All this triggering a war of words about credibility. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Donald Trump hired Michael Cohen for a reason, to be brutal to defend him at all cost while he was on his payroll. And now that the table has turned, you can bet that Michael Cohen (INAUDIBLE). UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The tape itself may not be the game changer but the fact that it has been released and the fact we are talking about this, this is a game changer. This is a complete flip by Michael Cohen. SEAN HANNITY, TALK SHOW HOST, FOX NEWS: I don't see anything here. I see a dud. GREGG JARRETT, LEGAL ANALYST, FOX NEWS: There is nothing illegal about paying somebody who wants money in exchange for remaining silent. KIM STRASSEL, COLUMNIST, WALL STREET JOURNAL: The issue here is first you got to decide whether or not you believe the CNN reporting and there has been a lot of breathless reporting out there that has turned out not to be correct. Then even if it is correct, you have to decide if you believe Mr. Cohen now. ALAN DERSHOWITZ, AUTHOR, "THE CASE AGAINST IMPEACHING TRUMP": Michael Cohen was trusted by President Trump for a long period of time but sometimes when you are squeezing somebody, you not only make them sing, you make them compose, you make them exaggerate the story. (END VIDEOTAPE) KURTZ: Does the tape show the Trump campaign wasn't truthful with the press about Karen McDougal? And are news outlets jumping to conclusion on the Trump Tower meeting without hard evidence? A bombshell report by Ronan Farrow help bring down Harvey Weinstein about the longtime boss at CBS. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEFF GLOR, ANCHOR, CBS NEWS: The New Yorker magazine is reporting that six women have accused CBS Chairman and CEO Leslie Moonves of sexual harassment. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Chilling allegations by the six women including an actress who says Moonves years ago forcibly assaulted her and then got her fired for rejecting him. With the company investigating, is this television titan's job in jeopardy? Plus, Facebook stock plunges, the biggest one day drop in the history of Wall Street. Are the privacy breaches and the fabrication and the misinformation driving that dramatic decline? And Twitter draws a presidential rebuke after being caught shadow-banning prominent conservatives. I'm Howard Kurtz and this is "Media Buzz." President Trump is flatly denying the CNN report about the 2016 Trump Tower meeting involving Donald Trump Jr., Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner and a Russian lawyer, who claims to be offering dirt on Hillary Clinton. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Sources with knowledge of the situation tell CNN the president's former lawyer, Michael Cohen, says he may tell Robert Mueller the president knew about that Trump Tower meeting with the possible Russian agent. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: President tweeting that his former lawyer may be making this up to get himself out of legal difficulty. "And so the fake news doesn't waste my time with dumb questions. No, I did not know of the meeting with my son, Don Jr." It was Chris Cuomo at a CNN show that aired Cohen recorded tape of him and Trump, discussing a possible payment in the fall of 2016 involving Karen McDougal. She is the Playboy model who says she had a decade-old affair with Trump. There is talk of paying in cash or check but the crosstalk is a bit hard to follow. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) MICHAEL COHEN, FORMER LAWYER OF PRESIDENT TRUMP (voice-over): When it comes time for the financing, which will be -- DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES (voice-over): Wait a sec, what financing? TRUMP (voice-over): (INAUDIBLE) pay with cash. COHEN (voice-over): No, no, no. I got it. TRUMP (voice-over): Check. (END VIDEOTAPE) KURTZ: President tweeting this, "What kind of a lawyer would tape a client? So sad." And questioning why the tape was so abruptly terminated while he was presumably saying positive things. And his lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and Cohen's lawyer, Lanny Davis, using the airwaves to snipe at each other. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LANNY DAVIS, MICHAEL COHEN'S ATTORNEY: Everyone out there listens to the tape. Whatever spin Mr. Giuliani is trying to invent, it says "cash" and Michael Cohen says no, no, no. Why is Giuliani out falsely disparaging Michael Cohen? Because they fear him. RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP'S ATTORNEY: He has been lying all week. He has been lying for years. I don't see how he has any credibility. This is basically if he had a trial and there won't be a trial here. But if he had a trial, you would say, well lie do you want to pick? You want to pick the first lie, the second lie or maybe some new lie. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Joining us now to analyze the coverage: Guy Benson, political editor of Townhall.com, Fox News contributor, and co-host of the "Benson and Harf Show" on Sirius XM; Sara Fischer, a media reporter for Axios; and Adrienne Elrod, Democratic strategist and former advisor to Hillary Clinton. Guy, we'll drill down to the details in a minute but does the importance of the story about a possible payment to Karen McDougal caught on tape ambiguous contacts warrant the intensity of media coverage? GUY BENSON, HOST, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR, POLITICAL EDITOR, TOWNHALL.COM: I think the president's trusted fixer and lawyer apparently flipping on him is a very significant story. Do we know that CNN is reporting that he might tell Mueller something, is that really a huge story? I'm not so sure because we have to see evidence, right? If it's just Michael Cohen making a claim about something that he thinks that Mueller or someone else might want to hear now that he's in the crosshairs and he has his own skin to save, I think that's the question we need to be asking. People might say, well, this is a statement against interest, right? This is Cohen who has always been loyal to Trump. So for him to say this about Trump is really, really important. But I think that misses the point that Cohen's interests have changed very dramatically. KURTZ: To put it mildly. Sara, the media just loves this particular story because it's sex, lies, and audiotape. I think that's part of what is actually driving the coverage. SARA FISCHER, MEDIA REPORTER, AXIOS: It is absolutely what is driving the coverage. I mean, the concept of betrayal is always something that's going to grip viewers. But there is also underlying theme here which is could there be more to come? Every time something new comes out from a tape, the media can latch on to the story that this isn't yet over. KURTZ: Adrienne, Rudy Giuliani now says that his experts have looked at this and they believe Cohen or somebody played with the tape. Lanny Davis, Cohen's lawyer, came back and said, Rudy is confused. And he also waived his own attorney-client privilege by speaking inaccurately on the tape. My question is, look, I think we probably can all agree that most people don't care, what Donald Trump did with Karen McDougal in 2006. But his campaign denies to the Wall Street Journal in the closing days of the campaign that the candidate knew anything about this. ADRIENNE ELROD, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST, FORMER ADVISER TO HILLARY CLINTON: Right. KURTZ: Is that the media issue? ELROD: Well, I think the issue here is going back exactly what Guy said which is this is somebody who has been fiercely loyal to President Trump for years as his attorney. Now, he is flipping. He is trying to save himself from jail time which he faces. KURTZ: Granted. But does he have credibility with which he is flipping or at least, you know, the reports about what he says. ELROD: I think he has credibility because we know that he has more tapes coming out. These tapes may be granny (ph). There are other tapes that we know exist and these tapes may actually be a little bit easier to decipher. BENSON: Look, I'm open to more evidence, right, and we should follow the evidence in this case. But there has been some whiplash within the media on the credibility of Michael Cohen, where he was dismissed forever as, oh, this is just a Trump lackey who is loyal to Donald Trump. KURTZ: Yeah. BENSON: And now this not way of Donald Trump, wow, let's listen to this guy. KURTZ: It's fair to criticize him for taping his client and that doesn't look good for him. He has obviously positioned himself to cooperate with Robert Mueller. But you have Rudy Giuliani three months ago, the guy is an honest lawyer, he is a good man. Now, he says he has learned what a liar he is. Let me ask you, so Lanny Davis is throwing a lot of media fire. This guy is a Clinton White House veteran. I remember talking to him about a different presidential sex scandal when he was defending the president. He comes back and says Giuliani was lying about this tape because before we heard at least the snippet of the tape, Giuliani said it was exculpatory for the president. So, I don't know. I am getting kind of 1998 deja vu all over again feeling about this. ELROD: Yeah. Look, I am a huge fan of Lanny Davis. I've known him for a long time. He is a great attorney but he is also a very good, you know, spin master, if you will. He is very good at using the media to his advantage. KURTZ: That's why people hire him. ELROD: Exactly. So it's sort of -- KURTZ: But the notion that he is doing this as payback because Hillary, his friend, lost the election. He is a lawyer hired to represent a client. ELROD: Right. And look, there are not very many people in this business who have the legal background and the P.R. background. When you get to a very small feel of the people, and Lanny of course is going to somebody that Michael Cohen -- KURTZ: It's called crisis management. ELROD: Exactly. KURTZ: So The Enquirer for people who don't know is a tabloid run by a close pal of the president, David Pecker. And so when we hear on the tape and Enquirer had already spent $150,000 to buy and then bury the story from Karen McDougal, they say they couldn't confirm it and also they paid her for some column (ph). But the way in which Donald Trump and Michael Cohen are talking about, well, we will just get the rights and then we will pay them some cash or check, does that raise questions about The Enquirer's role (INAUDIBLE) we might have thought? FISCHER: I mean, absolutely. This practice known as catch and kill in the tabloid world -- KURTZ: Yeah. FISCHER: It is not something you would typically see from a vetted media outlet where you pay rights to get a story and then you don't publish it just so the story goes away. The Wall Street Journal reported that the DOJ is looking into how close National Enquirer relationship was with the Trump campaign. Was it an extension of the Trump campaign or is the media outlet? And why we are even asking that question? Because protections from media outlets are very strong in this country, First Amendment protection. But if this company is doing something that warrants going above and beyond what a media company is and working more close with the president, well that can change rights. KURTZ: Yeah. This is like a movie that has everything. So on this business about the Trump Tower meeting in 2016 with a Russian lawyer, I can report based on my sources that it is true that Michael Cohen believes or claims that he has evidence that there was a meeting, the people involved, obviously we have three cooperated, that shows that the president who denied this knew in advance of this meeting with a Russian lawyer. But also, you have, Guy, you have Lanny Davis denying that his side leaked this Trump Tower story to CNN, because their view is that Cohen has no interest. He is coming out now. He kind of damages (ph) prosecutor. Rudy Giuliani today said they didn't leak it. And I guess the question is, should the media be giving -- you started out the segment with this -- giving so much attention to that allegation? It is sort of second hand now, we don't call it directly. There is no tape. There is no document. It is going to be one person's word against another. Obviously it needs to be reported, but with great caution. BENSON: Yes, with great caution. But the allegation is explosive because it's someone who was in the inner sanctum of Trump world for a very long time who is saying that one of the major, major assertions made over and over again by the president and his entire team about that Trump Tower meeting is false and would be like a capital L lie, a really big one, if Michael Cohen is telling the truth. That is a giant if with two underscores. KURTZ: Would it be a lie that would be much more important because there is always about this, I guess you can call it attempted collusion, obviously -- BENSON: Yes. KURTZ: -- more so than his relationship with the woman at Playboy? BENSON: Definitely. KURTZ: All right. Sara, I got to ask you. Are we now again headed for the kind of phase that the media loves, Donald Trump versus Michael Cohen, a guy who said he would take a bullet for him and now obviously is trying to use his own ammunition, obviously to protect his own interest. But also I think he seems to be saying, look, I did a lot of things for Donald Trump, he was my boss, I'm not proud of him. He doesn't use these words, but now he's a president and I got to come clean. FISCHER: That's exactly right. The media is looking to have this relationship be contentious, follow it like a horse race back and forth. You hear CNN and some of the other outlets saying that this is a complete flip. Then you hear on some other outlets, no, this might not be a complete flip, it's just that he is under different kind of pressure. It really depends on what outlet you are representing and where you are coming at this. But yes, it's a horse race and it is something interesting to follow. KURTZ: The further importance of this Trump Tower business, Adrienne, is that after a year plus, more than that, of investigation of Russian collusion, we don't have much evidence, but this is the one meeting we know about where there was at least an attempt to get information from a Russian lawyer who said the kind of fizzle that she had stuff on Hillary Clinton. So whether or not candidate Trump and now President Trump knew about it in advance, you can see why the media are so hot on this. ELROD: No, absolutely. They are hot because they want to see if Donald Trump essentially lied about this. And if Michael Cohen has actual empirical evidence that Donald Trump was aware of this meeting before and if he has evidence on tape, it is going to be very damaging for President Trump. KURTZ: There is no tape on this. There is no claim there is any tape of this. So, either prosecutors will find other people in the room who will say that never happened, Cohen will not be able to back it up or he will. But I just wonder, you know, it is our job to sort of follow these things and they get complicated, what is on tape, what is not on tape. Did he say cash, did he say check. And I wonder how much it is resonating even on the stuff about meeting with the Russian lawyer with lots of people out there who might be much (INAUDIBLE) other things. BENSON: I think the American people -- just look at poll. Gallup had a poll of election priorities and the Russia matter was pulling it zero percent as the top election priority, which is not to say that this stuff doesn't matter and people aren't paying attention to the investigation and some of the twists and turns. But I think the granular constant attention paid to it in this sort of dizzy New York media quarter is totally outsize compared to what normal people care about. KURTZ: Is it possible, Adrienne, that even being to thrown be true and President Trump will say I forgot, that I knew about her, I forgot about that meeting, that all those people, that 45 percent who passionately support him wouldn't care? ELROD: Absolutely possible and that's exactly what Donald Trump does. He disrupts the media cycle. He uses the media cycle to his advantage. He creates a lot of confusion. So, yes, I mean, to say what we were just talking about a while ago, is there tape, is there not a tape? Why does it matter? If there is -- I mean, it is very confusing. We like to talk about it here. I think the average American is just kind of letting this slide by and not paying as much attention. KURTZ: I got to get a break. There are even people who live between Boston and Washington who don't care about this all that much. Sara, we will see you a little later. Ahead, the devastating New Yorker piece about CBS Chairman Les Moonves and numerous allegations of sexual misconduct. This is pretty ugly stuff. When we come back, some journalists say the president is creating an alternative reality just as he tells the public not to believe what they say. KURTZ: There is a new accusation being made by The New York Times and some other news outlets that President Trump is trying to sell his supports on an alternative reality. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news. (APPLAUSE) TRUMP: What you are seeing and what you are reading is not what's happening. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: So, Guy, The New York Times headlines on that story is "Trump Rages Against Reality." don't believe the crap. And the story says he is increasingly living in a world of selective information and bending the truth in his own narrative. Is that fair because that is almost exactly what the president and his supporters would say about the media's portrayal of him? BENSON: Right. And it also sounds a lot like a politician who wants the media narrative that he or she supports and looks good for them. You might say that Trump is unusually aggressive in his public posturing on this, but I think it's not unprecedented by any stretch for an administration to cherry pick the type of coverage that they want to tout and then dismiss or downplay others. And I do think that there is -- Trump goes overboard frequently, I think, sometimes on this stuff, enemy, the American people I think is way too far. But it is true that a huge percentage of the mainstream media is actively rooting against him. They want him to fail. They want to bring him down. And they want to create lose-lose paradigms for him where no matter what he does, there are going to pile on. KURTZ: Adrienne? ELROD: Yeah. This is where I am going to actually disagree with Guy on this. I mean, look, Donald Trump believes if any media coverage of him is negative, it is fake news. That's how he frames it. That's what he tells his supporters. They rally -- KURTZ: The news is fake. We think inaccurate, but you say it's -- ELROD: Well, we think that we did something that was worthy of the press coverage that he received, right? Just because he does something that causes stories that negatively written about him, usually he is the one who is causing -- he is actually doing these actions. KURTZ: But here is the thing. When the press says Trump is creating a false reality and he sometimes exaggerate or get things wrong, there is an automatic assumption that the media narrative is 100 percent accurate. Don Lemon on CNN the other night, the headline began and shows with Donald Trump presidency is defined by lies. Could you point to things that are not true? Yeah. But what about, you know, in other words, we can't make assumption everything the media say are true about this. ELROD: Right. Look, I think, to a large extent, this is sort of something that was, you know, amalgamating it to the point that we are today in America where you have so many sensational outlets on the left and the right media coverage and people don't necessarily know where to go to actually get the truth. KURTZ: Not sensational but certainly increasingly partisan. By the way, in this story, the lead anecdote was based on e-mail. Donald Trump was upset because all the TVs on Air Force One is supposed to be tuned to Fox News. And Melania's set was on CNN. It actually prompted Melania spokeswoman to say, kind of dismissing the question silly, the first lady can watch any channel she wants. BENSON: That was, I think, the hook of the story. They want to show that there is some tension between the first couple. And it is an interesting anecdote. We of course appreciate the president's viewership here. I am sure Mrs. Trump is happy to use her remote control as she sees fit. KURTZ: Not a couple fighting over a remote. BENSON: Yeah, exactly, except Air Force One. KURTZ: Yeah. BENSON: I do think that what we are seeing is an unreliable narrator problem. Trump absolutely has his trouble with the truth and I do not deny that. The media also has a credibility problem and they don't always see it. KURTZ: Interesting because president is always talking about the failing New York Times. He tweeted this morning that he had a good meeting with A.G. Sulzberger, the publisher of The New York Times. Adrienne Elrod, Guy Benson, great to see you this Sunday. Ahead, Facebook stock in a major crash as the company struggles with the fall after those massive breaches of privacy. But up next, a look at the media outrage as the White House disinvites a CNN reporter from a public event after she shouted questions at the president. KURTZ: I'm sure it seems rude when reporters shout questions at president which has been going on at least in the days of Sam Donaldson and Ronald Reagan. Well, the White House pushed back hard the other day when CNN correspondent Kaitlin Collins among others was yelling questions at President Trump after a photo-op with the head of the European Commission. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) KAITLIN COLLINS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Did Michael Cohen betray you, Mr. President? TRUMP: Thank you, everybody. COLLINS: Mr. President, did Michael Cohen betray you? TRUMP: Thank you, everybody. COLLINS: Mr. President, are you worried about what Michael Cohen is going to say to prosecutors? TRUMP: Thank you, Kaitlin. Let's keep going. COLLINS: Are you worried about what is on the other tapes, Mr. President? TRUMP: Let's keep going. Thank you all. Let's keep going. Thank you, everybody. COLLINS: Why is Vladimir Putin not accepting your invitation? TRUMP: Let's keep going. Thank you, everybody. (END VIDEOTAPE) KURTZ: Collins says Press Secretary Sarah Sanders and Deputy Chief of Staff Bill Shine, a former co-president at Fox News, later barred her from an event open to the press and told her this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) COLLINS: That I would not be invited to an open press event here in the Rose Garden moments later at the White House because they felt the questions that I posed to President Trump were inappropriate and inappropriate for that venue. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Shine challenged that version of the event with reporters. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Did you ask her if we ever use the word "ban?" BILL SHINE, WHITE HOUSE DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF FOR COMMUNICATIONS: What word would you use? UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): When you asked her we ever use the word "ban." SHINE: Then I will not answer that question. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: I am told the White House officials said to Collins, this was a one-time disciplinary action and CNN could send someone else and that she is free to shout questions in other venues. But they said, it was disrespectful to do it in the Oval Office in front of another world leader. CNN called the move retaliatory and not indicative of an open free press, saying in a statement, "Just because the White House is uncomfortable with the question regarding the news of the day doesn't mean the question isn't relevant and shouldn't be asked." Fox News president, Jay Wallace, said, "This network stands in strong solidarity with CNN for full access for our journalists." (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRET BAIER, ANCHOR, FOX NEWS: As a member of the White House Press Corps, Fox stands firmly with CNN on this issue of access. HALLIE JAKCSON, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, NBC NEWS: The bottom line is this is almost unprecedented. It is inexcusable for the White House to make this move. It is not going to be tolerated by members of the White House Press Corps. I will tell you that. PHILIP RUCKER, WHITE HOUSE BUREAU CHIEF, WASHINGTON POST: It was completely uncalled for and a really sad moment I think not only for journalism but for the country. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: It is not clear why Kaitlin Collins was singled out. The Washington Post reports that Trump has pushed to punish other reporters who are impertinent or shouted questions (INAUDIBLE) talk him out of it, at least until now. The reason reporters routinely yell questions at the president this advance more so than the previous administrations is that Trump often answers them, even as his press wrangles try to shoo reporters out of the room. Ahead on "Media Buzz," Twitter is found to have engaged in shadow-banning prominent conservatives. And the president wants an investigation. But first, a move to impeach Rod Rosenstein draws plenty of media attention as Robert Mueller investigates Donald Trump's Twitter account. HOWARD KURTZ, MEDIA BUZZ, ANCHOR: The New York Times touched off a media debate by reporting that Robert Mueller is focusing on a new source of information. It has investigation a possible obstruction of justice by the President, Donald Trump's tweets, which are of course, quite public and read by 53 million followers. Joining us now from New York, Morgan Ortagus, a former Treasury Department official and Co-Chair of the Maverick Pack. And here in Washington, Bill Press, host of the online Bill Press Show and author of From the Left, a life in the crossfire. Morgan, so this was the lead story in the New York Times, Mueller scrutinizing Trump's tweets, especially about Jim Comey and Jeff Sessions as part of this obstruction inquiry. (Inaudible) presented the story a perfectly plausible prosecutorial strategy, but I am thinking tweets? MORGAN ORTAGUS, CO-FOUNDER, GLOBAL OPPORTUNITY: Well, I am certainly not a lawyer, Howie. But what I would say that you know what I found interesting this week are three major things happened. The GDP was put at 4.1 percent, which is the largest economic growth we've seen since the third quarter of 2014. (CROSSTALK) ORTAGUS: It added $7 trillion to the economy in new growth. And what's incredibly important to me as a member of the military is the fact we got our remains home from North Korea, from our men who were lost their a decade ago. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: Both of those stories we covered. (CROSSTALK) ORTAGUS: Right. So I bring that up to say that I think those things are what's really important to the American people. If you are running a small business like my father is in Florida, having GDP growth of four percent is really important. Another story about tweets, about the President's tweets are not important to him. Although, I have got to say he probably doesn't read the New York Times. KURTZ: Well, he met with the publisher of the New York Times, according to his own tweet. Bill, I want you to respond to the question of whether it's an important story or not. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: It certainly had plenty of pick up. But also, doesn't it suggest that Robert Mueller doesn't have all this super secret evidence we might have imagined. And so he's trying to tie the tweets to a pressure campaign against these top aides. BILL PRESS, HOST, THE BILL PRESS SHOW: Well, first of all, (Inaudible) sure. If I were in the White House, I would want them to be talked about the economy and bring remains from North Korea, and all that. The problem is that Donald Trump keeps tweeting. And then he goes on the other subject. He attacks Robert Mueller and he attacks Michael Cohen. And so he steps on his own story. I think that's part of the problem here, Howie. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: In fairness, the Times does quote Rudy Giuliani as saying if you are going to obstruct justice you do it quietly and secretly. Not with these public blasts. PRESS: I would say traditionally you would. I read that. But Donald Trump doesn't do anything the way everybody else already done it. Here's - - this takes me back to the early days of the Trump White House. In the press room, Sean Spicer, we didn't know, right, covering the White House, how to deal with these tweets. And we asked Sean Spicer should we take things seriously or not. And Sean Spicer said every tweet is a Presidential statement. Yes, take them seriously. So you cannot ignore these tweets. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: Nobody is accusing the media or ignoring. (CROSSTALK) PRESS: The President of the United States isn't going after Sessions or Comey. I think it does raise an issue. KURTZ: Well, in another story there was a lot of coverage of. And this was generated by the Republicans' side, 11 conserved house Republicans introducing the impeachment resolution against Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General for allegedly slow-walking requests for documents. This was never going to anywhere. Paul Ryan shut it down. It kind of backed off. But it got a lot of coverage to compete with such things as you say, the 4.1 percent jump in the GDP this quarter. ORTAGUS: Listen. I think the tea party wanted that coverage, Howie. I mean I think that they are incredibly frustrated with the slow-walking effort by the DOJ to get these documents out. And then on top of it, they were incredibly frustrated at the (Inaudible) branch of government and the amount of redactions. So this was I think the tea party shot across the bow. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: If you've been particularly like the New York Times lead story on Mueller Trump's tweets, why don't you view that as a distraction? And I say that only because it was obvious anybody's been in Washington. And then instead they don't have the votes in the house to impeach Rosenstein. ORTAGUS: No, they don't have it. But I think that this is what the tea party wanted. They wanted to get this. Because you saw Jim Jordan announced for speaker this week. So do I think it's the best strategy going into election for Republicans in vulnerable districts? I don't think that they let this story at all. In fact, I think they would want the focus to be on the GDP, on the North Korean remains. But the tea party has proven you know for the past seven years to be incredibly (Inaudible) coverage, because what happens is the loudest people in your party on either side. I'm sure the Democrats think this about some of their members as well. The people that are loudest are the ones that get the microphone shoved right in their face. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: -- loud voice to get Bill back in here. (Inaudible) this is really because they don't like the way Rosenstein has overseen the Mueller investigation, but given that it was never going anywhere, should it have been covered as a kind of a PR Stunt? PRESS: You know what I think? But first of all, it sort of was. KURTZ: Yeah. PRESS: It's the -- to borrow a phrase. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: I'm not against (Inaudible). (CROSSTALK) PRESS: No, to borrow a phrase media buzz. I mean they (Inaudible) make some media buzz before they left for the break. And they wanted to help -- Morgan's right, they wanted to help Jim Jordan and his impossible quest for speaker. But there ain't going to be an impeachment and there ain't going to be Jim Jordan as speaker. I think you've got some publicity because it was so dumb. It was so reckless. It's never going to get a vote. Paul Ryan is not going to bring this up for a vote in the house. So it was strictly -- I don't know, not even a Hail Mary pass. It was a stunt. KURTZ: Well, it worked then because they got a lot of coverage. And you know impeachment aside, if the President wants to get rid of Rod Rosenstein, he can fire him tomorrow. Except, obviously, it would be a huge political backlash. Bill Press, Morgan Ortagus, thanks very much. Great discussion, guys. PRESS: Thanks, Howie. KURTZ: Coming up, CBS Chairman Les Moonves was already in meshed in a corporate struggle to save his company, now he is facing devastating allegations, devastating allegations by six women who told the New Yorker he engaged in unwanted sexual conduct and harassment going back more than two decades. That's next. KURTZ: (Inaudible) the Pulitzer Prize winning reporter has published a highly detailed account on the New Yorker of sexual misconduct allegations by six women against CBS Chairman, Les Moonves. Actress Illeana Douglas says that during a 1997 business meeting, Moonves pinned her down so she couldn't breathe, violently kissed her, and tried to grope her. And then after she fought him off, was called to her and had her fired from a sitcom called Queens, which she had already been cast. Moonves says he immensely regrets some mistakes in making some women uncomfortable decades ago, but denied trying to harm anyone's career. We're back with Sara Fischer of Axios. So this account by Illeana Douglas by itself is revolting. And it underscores that based on Ronan Farrow's reporting, Moonves has a problem, and CBS which fired Charlie Rose for other allegations a few months back also has a problem. SARA FISCHER, MEDIA REPORTER, AXIOS: It underscores a huge problem at CBS. Look, if this is the behavior from the chairman of the company, it could be seen as sort of (Inaudible) of the general and overall culture at CBS. And Ronan Farrow's piece didn't just highlight, by the way, some of the things happening with Les Moonves, but also other executives, (Inaudible) at CBS its flagship news show. So there are a lot of things that we have to look at whether or not this culture needs to be revisited. KURTZ: (Inaudible) who on 60 Minutes denied this. And it was mostly about what he tolerated what other people were doing, and he's a former President of CBS news. So just to (Inaudible) people who haven't read this lengthy piece. There is a writer, Janet Jones, says that after Moonves sexually accosted her and locked the door. In 1985, he later threatened her. I'm warning you. I will ruin your career. You will never get a writing job. No one will hire you. And then she threw up. And there is another woman who said -- and this is 2006, that he put -- Moonves put his hand up her skirt, touched her underwear. These are Harvey Weinstein-type allegations. FISCHER: They're terrible allegations. And something that you just described in there, it's not just sexual harassment, but it could be physical harassment as well, which is a whole other level endangering the people working at that company. One other thing there too is that these people feel their careers were destroyed are really impacted by some of these victimizing instances. And that's a whole other level of problems that CBS is going to have to address too. KURTZ: Right. And obviously, many of these women and many of them years ago felt they couldn't come forward. Now -- so CBS confirms that in the case of Illeana Douglas, the actress, that Moonves kissed her but denies a lot of the other stuff. Now look. There are many high level firings in other companies, NBC with Matt Lauer, NPR, these kinds of issues. But not since the late Roger Ailes was forced out of Fox News over a series of sexual harassment allegations has the head of a company, major corporate moguls have been running that place for a long time (Inaudible) to CBS star Julie Chen who is supporting him have faced these kinds of accusations. FISCHER: Not in the media. And the crazy thing here is that in many other instances and other different industries that are lower levels down in the media, once these allegations come out there is an immediate suspension. There is an immediate action that's being taken. CBS' (Inaudible) media at least said that they're going to be investigating, but Les Moonves is still the Chairman. He is still the chief executive at this company. And we'll see what happens, but we have no indication right now. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: Well, I credit CBS for immediately saying there will be an investigation. I credit CBS News for reporting on this. But can you immediately suspend the head of the company based on what are allegations in a respected magazine? FISCHER: It's sedated. But he did admit to some unwarranted advances. And to some, you know, looking at these allegations between the 1980s to 2000s and then admitting to some of that, to me that says that there is an ongoing problem. KURTZ: Right, and a cultural problem perhaps as well. And so as you know, Moonves is already involved in a big, legal, and corporate battle with some (Inaudible) daughter (Inaudible) with some of the controlling stockholders who wants to combine it with Viacom, the former parent company. Could this (Inaudible) sexual misconduct allegation be related to that battle? Shari Redstone put out a statement saying that some malicious insinuation, but doesn't mean that people around her are not leaking. FISCHER: It doesn't mean that people around her aren't leaking. That's right. Look, there is a very ugly battle happening with Shari Redstone. And Les Moonves right now, some say that maybe she was involved in this, that she can try to take advantage of the situation. And ensure that she can dictate the future of CBS. But there is no proof right now that Shari Redstone had anything to do with this. KURTZ: Right. But whatever the motivation to (Inaudible) against this, all these women, many of them on the record, you would have to say that there are questions about Les Moonves holding on to his job. FISCHER: Oh, absolutely, especially because they are investigating him. KURTZ: Right. All right, more to come on this, Sara Fischer, thanks so much for your reporting on this. After the break, Mark Zuckerberg loses billions as Facebook stocks slide, makes Wall Street Journal history. Charlie Gasparino is on deck. KURTZ: It was the largest one day drop of any stock in Wall Street history, as Facebook shares plummeted 19 percent, wiping out $120 billion of the company's value, and costing Mark Zuckerberg himself many billions. This is against the backdrop of growing outrage about the company's privacy breaches and its tolerance of provocation and misinformation. Joining us now from Connecticut, Charlie Gasparino, a Senior Correspondent for Fox Business. And Charlie, wasn't this market plunge in part a reaction to Facebook admitting it's going to have to spend more money, many of millions of dollars, more money to try to protect people's privacy, which has done such a terrible job at, as well keep lies and harassment off the side. CHARLIE GASPARINO, SENIOR CORRESPONDENT, FOX BUSINESS: Yeah. I mean listen. Don't you feel sorry for Mark Zuckerberg? KURTZ: Yeah. GASPARINO: Billion dollars. (CROSSTALK) GASPARINO: Listen. The bottom line is that all these social media platforms are essentially free, right? You don't have to pay to get on there. But you do pay in other ways. You do pay in the lack of privacy. And anything that will cut back -- because they use your user information. (CROSSTALK) GASPARINO: Anything that sort of limits, that helps privacy that limits the amount of user growth that goes on to these platforms, whether its bots or fake accounts or anything else, because you can sell ads to them as well. You know the ad metrics sell the bots as well. KURTZ: Right. GASPARINO: Will hurt the stock price and both. It's fascinating that it both happened to Facebook and Twitter at exactly the same week. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: We'll get to Twitter in just a second. But you know it seems to me that you know the company is projecting slower growth. Younger people think it's un-cool so they go to SnapChat. But is the market punishing Facebook and Zuckerberg for a whole series of failures going back to Russian election propaganda and the Cambridge Analytica (Inaudible) scandal. And now, it has to police its content and that costs a lot of money. GASPARINO: Yeah. I don't think it's political. The market is saying simply this that your user growth, if you really do police bots and you know fake Russian accounts and all these other metrics will go down, therefore, your ad revenue will go down, therefore, your stock is probably not worth where it is now. And they're projecting it out. Now, this may change. Facebook may come up with a new app, with something else that increases user growth. Who knows? (CROSSTALK) GASPARINO: -- came to that company when it was on knees a few years ago and built it back up. But that's what the market is saying. I can say the same thing about Facebook and Twitter, because it's all about user growth, Howie. That's the bottom line. If you can't grow it, well then your ad revenues come down. KURTZ: That's absolutely true. And of course, the policing content is really (Inaudible) Zuckerberg saying it's OK for holocaust deniers to have a page, which is insane. And then Alex Jones who peddles conspiracy theories through InfoWars, they said he was fined. They changed their mind. And now some videos have been banned. And Jones has been suspended for 30 days for violating rules against hate speech (Inaudible) to show that this is a (Inaudible) of Facebook. But I do want to get to Twitter, because Twitter, you pointed this out. So on Friday, the stock was down 21 percent. A lot of it had to do with Twitter (Inaudible) purging about one million fake accounts, should've been done long ago. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: Also we have this controversy with Vice reporting that Twitter was shadow-banning the RNC chairwoman, top GOP lawmakers, Don Trump Jr.'s spokesmen, and that means they reduced their visibility by making it harder to search for (Inaudible) didn't happen to DNC chairman, didn't happen to Democrats. GASPARINO: Right. KURTZ: President Trump said they would look into these discriminatory and illegal practices at once, many complaints. Twitter says it's unintentional and fixed it. (CROSSTALK) GASPARINO: I can tell you. I spoke with Twitter's senior management about this notion that Twitter and -- you know and all social media is anti- conservative. They are extremely sensitive to this. Now that doesn't mean that they don't have human beings who create these algorithms that create you know -- that could shadow-ban certain conservatives that they're not bias. But I could tell you the company itself has to me they are taking extreme measures to be equal both for conservatives as well as liberals. You know we had interesting conversations about President Trump, you know and his use of Twitter. By the way, this is a guy that essentially drives plenty of traffic to Twitter. He's hardly not liberal. And you know some of his tweets you know go close to the lines of violating the terms of service. And I actually asked one senior official. I go do you ever think about banning Donald Trump or at least disciplining him. The one time they said they actually seriously considered that was in the Megyn Kelly flap, with that tweet, that then- candidate Trump said that about Megyn Kelly following you know when she asked him during the debate. But they're basically saying listen. We are not going after Trump, because you know we believe that he's a vital voice. He's the President. He uses Twitter. So they say that they are trying to be equal here, you know. Now, it's an imperfect equal. We know that. KURTZ: Sure. GASPARINO: And by the way, they did fix that shadow-banning problem. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: Right. I did mention that. And look, I take the company at its word. We have about 20 seconds here. Facebook also has been accused. I mean look. Silicon Valley is a left leaning place of being biased against conservatives. I think they're both trying, but it can't be coincidence that when there are bias or search problems, it happens to discriminate against people on the right. GASPARINO: Mostly. That's kind of weird, right? Think about it. Who creates the algorithms that allows the discrimination? Well, it's some Silicon Valley left wing kid probably, right? (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: All right. We have got to go. Charlie Gasparino, great to see you, thanks very much for your reporting on both of these tech giants, which are just having a hard time this year. Still to come, the President denounces an FCC decision that went against Sinclair TV. And Roseanne says she is sorry again. KURTZ: The FCC unanimously sidelined and potentially derailed a major merger between right-leaning Sinclair Broadcast and Tribune Media. That would have created a TV giant, reaching 70 percent of American households, and possibly led to national conservative programming that could compete with Fox News. In an unusual move, President Trump tweeted that the independent commission's decision was disgraceful. So sad and unfair that the FCC would not approve the Sinclair Broadcast merger which would have been a great and much needed conservative voice for and of the people. The company denied the FCC's accusation that its plan to sell off some stations to (Inaudible) independent insiders was misleading. Roseanne Barr got another apology do-over after losing her ABC show over that racist tweet about Obama White House Aide Valerie Jarrett. Roseanne, who now said she thought Jarrett was white, said this to Sean Hannity. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If she's watching, I am so sorry that you thought I was racist. And that you thought that my tweet was racist because it wasn't. It was political. And I am sorry for the misunderstanding that caused my ill- worded tweet. And you know I am sorry that you feel harmed and hurt. (Inaudible) she has got to get a new haircut, I mean seriously. She needs a new haircut. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Well, that's better than the YouTube video she posted in which Roseanne called Jarrett the B word. Look, I like Roseanne, who also talked about suffering from mental illness. And her self humiliation was kind of sad. This apology is pretty late in the game, maybe it stops the bleeding at least for the future. That's it for this edition of Media Buzz. I'm Howard Kurtz. And check out my new podcast, MediaBuzz Meter. We kick around the day's five most important and fascinating or buzzy stories with such guests as Mollie Hemingway and Julian Turner. You can subscribe at Apple iTunes, Google Play, or Foxnewspodcast.com. Also check out our Facebook page. I read all the comments. We post a lot -- I have videos there everyday, original videos and my daily columns. So we can continue the debate, the conversation there as well, even if Facebook and Twitter do have their problems. They're good platforms. All right, we'll back here next Sunday. We'll see you then with the latest buzz. Load-Date: July 30, 2018 End of Document Second Quarter GDP Numbers Are Officially In With Over Four Percent Growth; The Opposition Is Going To Be Very Focused On Try To Win The House Of Representatives; Steve Bannon Laid Out Tactics for Republicans to Maintain Control Of The House And The Senate; Congressman Jim Jordan Of Ohio Throws His Hat To Become The Next Speaker Of The House; Roseanne Barr Bravely Admits That She's Dealing Some Mental Issues Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST July 27, 2018 Friday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7578 words Byline: Sean Hannity; Geraldo Rivera; Jeanine Pirro Guests: Steve Bannon, Jim Jordan, Roseanne Barr Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: And welcome to HANNITY. Great news for the United States of America. c. In other words, our economy is moving at its fastest pace in four years. In moments we will explain what this means for you. Also, we are going to highlight the President's historic economic track record that the rest of the media, that Democrats are ignoring. And the days of Obama's pathetic economic stagnation are now official over. Now today on my radio show, I did interview the President about the roaring economy and so much more. We will play the highlights. Plus, the countdown to the mid-terms is on. We are going to show you how the less new low, he is hitting lower and lower and lower. Good news for the country, that's bad news for them. Also tonight, more progress to report on North Korea. Today, dictator Kim Jong-un, he kept one of his promises. He actually returned dozens of cases containing the remains of U.S. servicemen that were killed abroad during the Korean war. A serious breakthrough, a promised kept. Sit tight. Stay tune. It is time for tonight's breaking news, Friday edition opening monologue. All right. As a candidate and as President, Donald Trump long promised to spur the American economy and get growth rates back to four percent, many on the left, many in the media, many so-called experts and economists, they mocked him. They said it could not happen. They said a growth rate around two percent was the new normal in America. The haters, left wingers and the Democrats are all proven wrong. Today, the commerce department officially announced that the second quarter GDP grew at a whopping space of 4.1 percent. That's more than double the average yearly growth under Obama. In fact, under President Obama they nearly even made three percent. The first U.S. President in U.S. history not to have a year of three percent GDP growth. Now, this is just the key piece of an American economy that is now booming everywhere you turn. The overall unemployment rate now is four percent, a 17 year low. To put it in perspective, the average unemployment rate under Obama, 7.4 percent. Under President Trump African-American unemployment is at its now lowest rate ever at 6.5 percent. A record low Hispanic unemployment rate in America, their lowest reported at 4.6 percent. Women in the workforce even lower at four percent. And by the way, 14 states have record low unemployment. Consumer confidence at a 17 year high. Homeownership rate is up significantly. The amount of Americans on food stamps is down by millions. And there are now literally more jobs available in America than there are people on unemployment. Basically, an economic miracle turnaround. Yes, and we are negotiating better trade deals all over the world. No trade wars including this week when President Trump and the head of the European union agreed to push for zero tariffs barriers and subsidies between the two trading partners. So just take - just a short time ago, under Obama, he gave us 13 million more Americans on food stamps, eight million more Americans in poverty. The lowest labor participation rate since the '70s. The worst homeownership rate in 51 years. The worst recovery since the '40s. And on top of this, yes, he took on more debt than ever other President before him combined. Earlier today, on my radio show, President Trump has this to say about America's record setting economy. Take a listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: A big factor, though, Sean, was regulation. And obviously, a big factor was the taxes. But a lot of this - really, the taxes are going to help in the future. I look so forward to seeing the next quarter because this is so sustainable. This is going to go for a long time. For the economy, we can go a lot higher. And you know, people, don't talk. We have $21 trillion in debt. When this really kicks in we will start paying off that debt like it is water. We will start paying that debt down. We are $21 trillion dollars, a number that is, you know, unthinkable. But that will go down very quickly because the numbers with growth and the kind of growth that we produced, the 4.1 can actually go higher. I look forward to seeing next quarter because I think that the 4.1 is just a steppingstone. But when we make good trade deals, Sean, is going to have a huge impact on GDP growth. And the numbers will be so big that you will actually start paying down debt in very large chunks. It will go quickly. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Bad news for the media and Democrats because they want their power back. The more successful America is, the chances of them getting power back, it gets reduced every day. Now, this huge quarterly GDP growth is great news for every American. Not only does this prove that tax cuts have actually worked and always work. But it is also clear evidence that the President is keeping his promises. Something that is rare in Washington to you, the American people. It is important to keep in mind. We are now approaching the most important midterm elections in our country's history as far as I am concerned. Aby the way, Steve Bannon will talk about that later. But without a doubt, Democrats will be up to the same old predictable dirty tricks and tactics. It doesn't matter what the economy is doing. Instead, they want you to believe the Republicans are monsters, that they are racists and sexists and misogynic and xenophobic and homophobic, Islamophobic, that they want dirty air and water, even thought they drink it and breath it and they want literally throw granny over a cliff and they want to kill children. Earlier today, I asked the President about that is so much more. Here's his answer. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: The Democrats want to raise everybody taxes. They want too give back these massive tax cuts that we got and reforms that are so good for everybody, but the tax cuts. So they want to raise people's taxes. They want to open up borders. They want to get rid of ICE. I mean, the things that they are doing are so destructive. We won't have a country. HANNITY: They want their crumbs back, they want open borders, they want Obamacare, they want to impeach you and they want to stop all investigations into deep corruption. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. The President is right. And ahead of the mid-terms, it is very clear that the left, they really have no plan to improve the lives of, oh, the forgotten men and women. We live eight years on the economic failures, stagnation. What? You want to take it back? You want the problems back? Really, you want to impeach Trump? Is that what you wanted to do? You want to preserve the disaster of Obamacare where every American did not keep their doctor and didn't keep their plan and they are not paying less. They want to eliminate ICE. They want open borders. They want to stop the investigations into what was the biggest abuse of power by the deep state in American history. So with 101 days to go as this midterms gets close, the less rhetoric, their conduct is only going to get worse and worse and worse. And of course, they are willing accomplices in the media that just echo each other. Now President Trump successful presidency is literally driving them insane. By the way, this week they were in rare form. Total insanity. They wake up everyday. How can I hate Trump today? Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So I'm calling on everyone right now who understands what is at stake, who understands who (INAUDIBLE). In a moral moment, there is no bystanders. You are either complicit in the evil. You are either contributing to the wrong or you are fighting against it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jay-z, a prolific rapper, prolific philosopher, I am taking a quote from him, you know. Putin has got Donald Trump a big pimping Donald Trump right now. ARI MELBER, MSNBC HOST: It was Donald Trump working with advance knowledge to be part of the international conspiracy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was furious because he found out Melania was watching CNN instead of FOX, which when you think about it is probably her way of cheating on him. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And This week in person, the harassment of Trump allies continued. First, it was, you know, secretary Nielson, then those White House press secretary Sarah Sanders and Florida attorney general Pam Bondi and majority leader Mitch McConnell and his wife and transportation secretary and now, yes, they are going after Sean Spicer because he has a book out that people want to buy. And on Wednesday really shouted down by one of these leftists at a book signing. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, Sean, you are a real piece of garbage. And I hope you look around and you see all of these empty seats and you realize even in New York City, people won't come and pay money to hear you speak. I read the reviews. It's a garbage book. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sit down. You are as stupid as you look. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are a garbage person. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I got him. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You lied as press secretary. Now you are lying in your book. I have read the review. The "Wall Street Journal" called you a liar. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I wish I was wrong in this prediction, but you can expect this kind of behavior, this kind of rhetoric from the left and it is only going to get worse and worse as we get closer to the Midterms in November. Why? Because they want their power back at all costs. And they think the louder they get the more effective they will be. And finally tonight, we end with some positive developments at the Korean peninsula. Kim Jong-un, he did keep his commitment to President Trump and the U.S. And he did return the remains of U.S. servicemen killed decades ago in the Korean war. Listen to this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We did met. We had a great meeting. Very, very great meeting. I mean, I think you could have lost 50 million people more. If you think that Seoul is 28 million people that is right on the border. You know, people say hundreds of thousands, not hundreds of thousand. We are talking about 50, 60, 100 million people could have been wiped out and lost. We had a great meeting, historic, and among other things where the remains are starting to come back. Missiles have been stopped. We don't have rockets and missiles shot over Japan. The hostages we got them back even before I left we got them back. Nuclear testing, no more. Rocket testing no more. So many things have changed. And you know, one thing all of their propaganda material and the propaganda which has been up for years, propaganda, the signs, the music, it's all stopped. It's all been taken down. So many positive things have happened. And you know, we have time. There is no rush. I told my people don't rush. We have not taken any sanctions off. And we hope -- I look forward to the time when we do take the sanctions off. Because when that happens, a lot of good things will have happened on the other side. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: He is not trying to bribe a dictator. There are more tangible progress of the President's diplomatic effort with little Rocket Man, Kim Jong-un. And the very least and important moment for all of those who did lose their loved ones in the Korean War. And tonight, the negotiations to denuclearize the Korean peninsula continue. And we will update you on everything that transpired. But on the meantime, no rockets have been fired since December over Japan. It is not threat to the region. It looks like "Fire and Fury" and my button is bigger than yours and ours is actually works. It is actually working. And did get our hostages out. And there was the dismantling of one of the nuclear test sites. Here with reaction, the author of the number one "New York Times" bestseller this week, "Liars, Liberals, and Liberal," number one on "The New York Times" bestseller list, you know her as Judge Jeanine Pirro and the author of another "New York Times" bestseller, the Geraldo Show, FOX News correspondent at-large Geraldo Rivera. Congratulation to both of you. Judge Jeanine, good for you. We are proud of you. And so well deserved. I know how hard for work. Geraldo, your book has been out. (INAUDIBLE). You know, Geraldo, that brings something to my mind. You have always said and we disagree on immigration and I don't want to hear it today about immigration. Although you agree with the wall. You do agree. But you actually keep saying, I love this about you, even though that we don't agree on everything. You keep saying I want this President to succeed because I want my country to succeed. I don't feel that from the Democratic Party. They are not happy today about these GDP members. GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT AT-LARGE: You know, they would applaud if the President stumbled on the sidewalk, I think, Sean. There is a hatred of Donald Trump that is something that is almost unprecedented. It's extraordinary. How people are actively rooting for the President and the presidency to fail. I think that it is - it is selfish, it is narcissistic, it is so pedestrian and partisan. It really is -- one reason politics has such a foul stench. But I think that the President could help himself more. You started the program with these great economic numbers. The thing about these economic numbers, a rising tide is that (INAUDIBLE), Americans are doing better than ever. Wages are going up. There are more jobs than people seeking jobs. But at its core, this is also a tremendous civil rights movement by President Trump. HANNITY: Bingo. Very important. RIVERA: He is doing more for the inner city. He is doing more for the inner city than all of the liberals and the wishy- washy and come on (ph) in socialism and all the rest of it. Black unemployment historic lows. Hispanic unemployment at historic lows. Were I on the President's team. I would say, this is what you focus on. Say this every day, every single day. We are not getting nuked from North Korea. And look what we are doing for the city. Look what we are doing to the constituency that voted for my opponents. We are doing more than all of these liberal programs combined. HANNITY: Geraldo is right on the money. But I have said, Judge, that if the President cured cancer at this point, seriously, and I really believe it, if the President cured cancer and gave every American $30 million, the media and Democrats would still hate this guy. If he adopted their agenda which failed they would still hate him. JUDGE JEANINE PIRRO, AUTHOR, LIARS, LEAKERS AND LIBERALS: Well, there is no question, Sean, that the hatred towards this President is unparalleled in American history. And there is not one metric that has suffered under this President. We are better off in every positive metric. I remember when President Obama said all manufacturing jobs, that is the thing of the past. We now have 400,000 new manufacturing jobs in this country. We now have unemployment and I won't repeat all of the good things that have been said. But here is the truth. You know, Geraldo Rivera says the President should talk more about, you know, the civil rights issue helping the people who have been forgotten. But the truth is Geraldo, he could talk about it from the highest mountains and the press would not report it. What the American people instinctively understood that this was a man, this Donald Trump who had never run for any office in his life, instinctively understands the plight of the hard working American men and woman. And so, we gave him a chance to use his words. We had nothing to lose. HANNITY: He said, what do you have to lose? Right. PIRRO: And now every metric has improved. That's right. And that is what the American people think. And you know, every day he takes in coming. And every day I realize more than ever, this man is a force of nature. He can handle anything and keep fighting for us. HANNITY: You know, Geraldo this is a really good point. Every election it's the same thing from the Democrats. Racist, sexist, homophobia, xenophobia, Islamophobic, you know, throw granny over the cliff and scare America. You know, give me one idea that Democrats besides impeachment, keeping Obamacare, open borders and they want their crumps back. One idea that they are offering the American people that would - that they would deserve us to go back to what? To Obama's 13 million additions to food stamps and eight million more in poverty? What are they offering? RIVERA: Well, Medicaid for everybody which is a wonderful idea. Public - HANNITY: Yes, we can pay that, too. RIVERA: Free college for everybody. HANNITY: Free college, free housing and free day care. Free. Free. Free. RIVERA: The apparent nominee for the Democratic congressional seat in the Bronx and Queens Ms. Ocasio- Cortez, she -- her platform is wonderful. It spelled how the Utopian-socialist universe. The reality going back to what I said is that capitalism is the best engine for lifting people out of poverty and into the middle-classes and beyond. I think that you have to stress those things. But I also think that it's sophomoric of us to avoid the fact that a lot of the hatred directed at President Trump, some of it is self-inflicted, and I can talk about that if you want, but a lot it also is the fear. You remember the huge demonstrations the day after the inauguration by women wearing pink hats everywhere. Their problem was the fear that the President would curtail the rights under Roe v. Wade. It's a sticky subject. Nobody likes to talk about it. We kind of roll eyes. And you don't want to hear the other side of it. One of the advantages I have had being at FOX, being with you, is I respect your point of view on that. But I can't say that is generally held and it's a fear that the President -- HANNITY: No, but I respect, you know --. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We have become best friends and we disagree. We will go out and then have a drink and a bite to eat and argue but we are friends. RIVERA: Because I believe in the sincerity. I believe in your sincerity. HANNITY: The same with you. You want the country to be better. RIVERA: You are an honest person. HANNITY: Absolutely. And Judge, that's missing everywhere. I have seen such a level of dishonesty. Here is a thing. They are not going to focus on the so-called news channels about all of this success which is as Geraldo is rightly saying, we are changing -- the forgotten men and women that have been left behind are now getting more opportunities than they ever had. And I'm the guy that started as a dishwasher. So I identify with that, with people that are struggling because I have struggled for 20 years of my life -- 25 years. PIRRO: Well, you know. And you know, when you talk about, Geraldo, I was in that march in Washington. And thank goodness there were two Navy SEALs with me, retired. And at the least, I was protected. But the hate was - it was palpable. And when I asked people in that parade or whatever, the march, protest, what they were protesting, they just hated Donald Trump. Look, female unemployment, Sean, you talked about it at the beginning of the show, it is at four percent. And you look at Ivanka Trump. This is a woman who was spent her adult life trying to promote women entrepreneurs -- . HANNITY: And look at how they treat Ivanka and Baron and the granddaughter of the President. PIRRO: That's right. All of them. But look. Here is the bottom line: America is better off. The left is trying to shutdown the right. I have had my own experiences with it. They are calling me the fascist. Bit the fascism is when there is only one way of thinking and everyone else has to be shutdown. HANNITY: Last word, Geraldo. RIVERA: I think what happened to Ivanka and her decision to give up her businesses is absolutely shameful. She and her husband, Jared, have worked so hard for the country and for people to attack their businesses by sabotage the way they have, I think is really, really regrettable. HANNITY: Some of these people work in Washington will pay more money literally in lawyers than they get paid. All right, don't forget judge Jeanine tomorrow night 9:00 eastern. And when we come back, former Trump White House strategist Steve Bannon, a 101 days away from the election, Jim Jordan and the rest of my exclusive interview with Roseanne Barr. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We are on track to hit the highest annual average growth rate in over 13 years. And I will say this right and I will say it strongly. As the trade deals come in one by one, we are going to go a lot higher than these numbers. And these are great numbers. Once again, we are the economic envy of the entire world. When I meet the leaders of countries, the first thing they say invariably is Mr. President, so nice to meet you. Congratulations on your economy. Since I was elected we added 400,000 new manufacturing jobs. Remember that was the obsolete deal. Obsolete. I used to say, why is it obsolete? We have to make things. Manufacturing jobs are among our best jobs. And we are just getting started. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That was President Trump earlier today literally going over what is now a remarkable economic story since he has now taken office. These unprecedented in numbers. And certainly sure to help Republicans. We are 101 days away from what I am calling the most important Midterms election in our lifetime. Now, earlier this week, Breibart News, they came out with a very thorough report detailing seats that the GOP must maintain and hold to keep their majority. At lot at stake. Joining us now former Trump White House chief strategist, Steve Bannon. Here is a thing, Steve. You and I have discussed this privately. This is now battlefield 2018 because they want to impeach the President. They want their crumbs back. They want to get rid of ICE open borders. They want to keep Obamacare. And then want to coverup the corruption that we have been exposing at the highest levels of government to stealing an election. A lot the stake. STEVE BANNON, FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF STRATEGIST: Sean, you said something that is the most important Midterm. I would just like to rephrase that. And I think is President Trump's first reelect. This is going to be up or down vote. It's a referendum on the Trump presidency. They are very focused. The opposition is going to be very focused on try to win the House of representatives, try to win Congress in order to impeach President Trump and stop the entire progress, right, whether it's the economic growth or this then new reorientation of the world's commercial system through trade deals, whether it is his America first national security, whether southern border security. You pick it. They are going to try to unwind it. So this is really, I mean, the Democrats got one thing. They got a do- over. In this November, and it is 100 days and a wake up, 100 days and a wake up, we are going to have essentially, a national election. And that is going to determine the second half of the first term of President Trump and I think 2020. (INAUDIBLE) 2020. Right now, we are going to have a referendum. It is going to be I think very focused on President Trump's record. And I would tell everybody that the way to win this is exactly like we won in 2010. That great tea party sweep. You are going to have to go at door-to-door, right doorbells and do voter registrations drives and get people out. I mean, President Trump has delivered on the action. Now it's time for the populous movement, the nationalists movement, the Republicans, American Republicans, conservative movement. Everybody that turned out in 2016, you have to do it all over again. Or the first action they are going to take under Nancy Pelosi or whoever the democratic speaker is try to impeach President Trump. HANNITY: You know, I went through the numbers, your old hometown or Breitbart. I think --. (CROSSTALK) BANNON: Great piece. HANNITY: But it identified only 100 seats are really up for grabs. The others are safe because of gerrymandering, et cetera. But, so they are not in play. But you have 86 of those are Republican seats. And you talking about the Republicans have to win 61 of the 86. So that's a lot. An historically, and I asked the President about this earlier today on my radio show, historically seats are lost in the Midterm election for the party in the White House. How do people save these 61 seats-plus? Because I would like a little comfort margin there. BANNON: Here is a job to do. We did lock -- we picked up 62 or 63 in that seats in 2010. And it's not about money. It's about ideas and it is about - it is about getting out and turning out votes. President Trump has delivered. He said he will take action. He took action with the destruction of ISIS. He took action -- look at these economic numbers today. They are just unbelievable. Look what he is doing on the - and the trade deals, what he is doing is reorienting the world's supply chain away from China. He is fully engaging in going back on China on economic where they are head on us. President Trump has delivered on judges. Everything he said he was going to do, he has either done or in the process of doing. And it is combat upon everybody that is supporting him in 2016. This is going to be the old- fashioned way, OK. This is not going to on that commercial. It's not how much money you raise. This is going to be very simple. It's going to be muscle. The opposition is very different than in '16. In '16 Hillary Clinton's arrogance, their cockiness, you know, they really missed what we were doing in the upper Midwest, OK, to really break that blue wall. This time the Time's Up movement and the resistance are very focused. And they are going door-to-door. It is incumbent everybody that supports President Trump to understand this is going to be the old-fashioned way. You're going to have to go door-to- door, you're going to have pamphlets get voter registration and knock on doors and get your neighbors to come out. This is all that turn out on November 6. HANNITY: So we call them this Bannon battlefield 2018. And tonight you're giving us like a general's overview as we now get to the 100 day countdown on this. But next week we're going to, specifically because we're going to name every district and put it up on the screen. BANNON: Yes. HANNITY: So the audience can see. Here's the thing. Because there are some people that rightly will look at their congressman and they'll say to me and you, Hannity, Bannon, my congressman is a rhino. My senator is a rhino. BANNON: Right. HANNITY: You are asking me to support this guy. I went out and supported Trump but the stakes are so high what they want to do to the Trump agenda which is the answer, at least that's my answer. I don't want to put words in your mouth. BANNON: No. This cuts to the heart of it. This is a national referendum. Whether it's a rhino whether it's an establishment figure whether somebody either congressman or a senator that you don't fully support. That is not the question now. The question is that the Trump agenda, their questions is about President Trump and his agenda. And you are going to have to just put -- you know, you're going to sometimes vote for people that you're not totally comfortable with. OK. And this means some establishment figures and some rhinos. It doesn't matter. This is a national referendum. It's an up or down vote on the Trump presidency. If we take and force everything to November 6th, we're going to win this. There's not going to be a blue wave. And here's the benefit of not having a blue wave. When they don't get the blue wave that they've been selling their grassroots people they're going to have, they're going to turn themselves on a civil war on the Democratic Party. And I got a take it will make 2018 and 2020 much, much easier. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: There's a reason. Wait a minute. You just motivate. There's a big -- and it's already developing. Just look at the job numbers. Put aside the success in North Korea and yes, we now have remains from that war coming home this very day. BANNON: Yes. HANNITY: And no more rockets being fired and a dismantled nuclear test site. And then the Iranian deal he promised to get out of, Jerusalem is the capital, and the toughest sanctions we put on Russia. But more importantly, we now have record low unemployment in this country of 14 states for women in the workforce, African-Americans, Hispanic Americans and Asian-Americans and the military that have been out of work. And millions now have been taken off the food stamp rolls with more jobs available than people on unemployment. This didn't happen as fast when Reagan was president who, you know, I'm a Reagan conservative. BANNON: If you look at the actions he's taken and then you look at the results we already have including the judges and redoing of the federal judiciary, it's been nothing short of extraordinary. Donald Trump is a historic president. Donald Trump is a transformational president. If you want to keep that transformation going, that's why this November is not a midterm election. This midterm is the first re-elect of Donald J. Trump. And everybody is going to have to put their shoulder to the wheel. It's exactly, Sean, as you remember what we did in August of 2016. We brought the Republican establishment together and the Trump movement together, grassroots conservatives together, we put our heads down and against tremendous opposition and of the media, the opposition party media, and all of the money the Clintons raised, it didn't make a difference. We won and we won big in a historic landslide. That can happen again and it will happen again if people start to focus on what November 6th is which is a national referendum under the presidency of Donald Trump. HANNITY: All right. Let me tell everybody so we're going to bring you on as often as you can. I know you travel a lot. Pretty much once a week from now until Election Day. So everybody knows Steve does not like doing TV. BANNON: Yes. HANNITY: But you think this is so important, that you want to identify. We'll do this next week, we will identify every single district that's going to matter where the real well, the battle fight, if you will. (CROSSTALK) BANNON: The battlefield. HANNITY: The Bannon battle fight 2018. BANNON: Well, we will show people, Sean, you've been so gracious to try to talk to me about this. It's that I think people need to focus on where this battle is going to take place. It's going to be, and it's going to be, you know, people are going to have to put their shoulder to wheel. You know, it's game on. And you know, we have to leave everything on the field and no tears. I'm tired of hearing the whining, particularly on our side of the football about, you know, this candidate or that candidate. We got to stop the whining, we have to get focused on what's needed for a victory. You have 100 days and a wake up to do it. HANNITY: All right. Bannon battlefield 2018. Next week we're going to identify the defining races in this upcoming midterms. Steve, thank for being with us. BANNON: Thanks for having me, Sean. All right. When we come back, he wants to be the next speaker of the house. Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan why he's running for speaker. And later, more of my one-on-one with Roseanne Barr a lot of people are talking about. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Yesterday, Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan announced that he is running for speaker of the house. And earlier, I sat down with the congressman to ask why he is running and what agenda he is going to push. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: Joining us now Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan has announced he is running to the next speaker of the house. How are you, sir. Welcome to a rare in studio appearance. REP. JIM JORDAN (R), OHIO: Thank you for having me. HANNITY: We are 101 days now outside of the midterm elections. I'm calling it the most important midterm in our lifetime. JORDAN: Yes. Right. They want to impeach the president if they win. We got to win. HANNITY: Which point? JORDAN: Well, if the Democrats get in office they will go after President Trump because they went so far left with the social progressive Democratic, you know, agenda they have. So this is why it's so critical. And here's what's at stake. Think about the last year and a half. Regulations reduced. Taxes have been lowered. Unemployment is at lowest in 20 years. Economy is just humming along. Gorsuch is on the court. Kavanaugh is on deck. HANNITY: GDP (Inaudible). JORDAN: Embassy is back in Jerusalem. We're out of the crazy Iran deal and the hostages come home from North Korea. And I'm forgetting a few things. By anyone's definition that is amazing a year and a half. But what's amazing about that list as well is Congress only helped a little bit of that. The regulation and the taxes. Congress has to do a better job. And that's why I want to be the next speaker of the house. We've got to focus on doing what we told the American people we were going to do. Deliver on healthcare, delivering on the border security and on immigration-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How did it happen-- JORDAN: And all of those other issues. HANNITY: How did it happen in the middle of the healthcare debate we discovered that there were about 100 House Republicans and certainly seven Senate House -- sorry -- Senate Republicans that voted to repeal Obamacare in 2015. JORDAN: Same bill. HANNITY: Same bill and they changed when it mattered. JORDAN: Six Republicans senators voted against the exact same legislation they supported before after telling the Americans -- after getting elected in '10, after getting elected and taking the Senate in '14. After winning the White House in '16 on that issue. And then not to deliver on that. We haven't delivered on healthcare reform repealing Obamacare, haven't delivered on welfare reform work requirements for able-bodied people, and haven't delivered on immigration policy and border security well, and certainly haven't delivered on holding and controlling spending. That's what we got to do because that's what we told the American people we were going to do if they gave us the privilege to serve. HANNITY: OK. But the president on his own, as you pointed out has accomplished a lot. JORDAN: He's doing it. HANNITY: And why is there this reluctance among some Republicans, is that the president is not the conventional establishment figure? He is iconic class. I think he's bold. He tweets, he says, you know, calls it out fake news. What is it that some Republicans don't like? JORDAN: It's the town. It's Washington. The swamp is the swamp. They don't like someone like Donald Trump coming in here and changing the swamp and changing the way that town works. There is just this reluctance to ever change. Even though the American people said in 2010 we're going to put you in charge to Congress to go and change things. Even though in 2014 they gave us the Senate to say go change things. And even though in 2016 they gave us the White House to go change things. There are still this reluctance. And the president feels this every stinking day. Because he is bound and determined to do what he told the American people he was going to do what he ran out the mandate we got fro that election and the House needs to do the same. We've done some good things but not near enough. The reform that we need to do like the president himself doing-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And by the way, in fairness to Paul Ryan, the House has been better than the Senate. JORDAN: It sure has. HANNITY: A lot better. Let's go through this. So we have 14 states record low unemployment. Record low unemployment for African-Americans, Hispanic Americans and women in the workplace. JORDAN: Yes. HANNITY: And then take it from there. We have nothing but huge massive economic, great economic news one after the other. You mentioned the foreign policy successes. And I'm thinking there is a track record to run on. JORDAN: Of course. Let's go campaign on it and let's also tell the American people you put us back in power in the House of Representatives, we will do what we said. We will help President Trump accomplish what you told us you wanted accomplished on 2016, what we ran on-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How are you, if you become the speaker, and look, I will support you for speaker. Because I think the Freedom Caucus has been the most committed to fighting to keep their promises and literally the single biggest group fighting to defend the things that are conservative in the country and have helped the president the most. JORDAN: Yes. We talk about when we formed our group three years ago. We talked about the countless number of Americans who feel like Washington has forgotten them and left them behind. We want to go fight for those people, do the things we told them we were going to do. I say this all the time and I say it because I believe it. We make the job of being a member of Congress way too complicated. It's pretty simple. What did you tell the people you're going to do when they gave you the chance to go serve them their family and their business? What did you tell them you're going to do, go do that and be willing to stand up and have the debate. All too often we forfeit even before the debate even happened, before the referee even blows the whistle. We just say we're going to forfeit the match, we're going to forfeit the game. Let's have it, let's play the game, let's wrestle the match, let's make it happen doing what we told-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How will you be different? JORDAN: That's simple. Here is a great example. The omnibus spending bill we were so poised to win that debate and hold spending down on non-defense spending, do what needs to be done for our troops but hold it down on everything else because Chuck Schumer had shut down, remember he shut the government down on Friday. And over the weekend the American people said you are crazy! So, on Monday, he says, I'm going to open the government back up. Because he was losing in the political and the public relations world. So he opens the government back up. A few weeks later, we had a chance on that big spending bill to treat our troops the way they deserve to be treated for defending our country and hold the line on everything else. And what do we do? What the swamp always does. We said, no, we won't even have the debate. Even though we got a guy in the White House who was great at debating, great at taking the message to the people. Even though we had all that we said let's just do what we always do. Let's spend more money on everything and the deficit goes up, the debt goes up and the ban placed on the same old, same old-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And the president he literally squeeze because he wants the money for defense. Because we literally-- (CROSSTALK) JORDAN: Yes. Have we seen into that bill? HANNITY: All right. Jim Jordan, good luck. We're going to watch this very closely. Do we know when Ryan is leaving? JORDAN: We do not. He said he is going to stay so I take him on his word. HANNITY: All right. Thanks for being with us. JORDAN: You bet. Thank you. HANNITY: And when we come back, more of my exclusive interview with Roseanne Barr as Hannity continues. HANNITY: Part two of my wide-ranging interview with actress Roseanne Barr. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: How should we handle these controversies? In other words, Samantha Bee, she then apologize, or Bill Maher the stuff he said over the years that are pretty atrocious. I don't agree with him. I always felt this. I always felt you don't like -- and I want everyone to watch my show, but if you don't like it you have a choice. You have all the power to turn the dial. ROSEANNE BARR, ACTRESS: Right. HANNITY: But we live in an environment where it's not just disagree. It's like disagree and get an opportunity and don't accept the apology and try to destroy the other show. I refuse to be a part of that. Because I do believe that in freedom of speech, number one. BARR: Right. HANNITY: I make my living with it. Number two, I do believe people make innocent mistakes. I'll be honest I listened to your background and read all of this stuff about you and your background and your mom and your dad. (CROSSTALK) BARR: Look, I want to say-- HANNITY: And your struggles. BARR: I have the best relationship with my mother today. HANNITY: I am still. BARR: We've done the work that needed to be done in my family. And I'm very proud of that. We have nothing but love now. We want -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Understood. But you know, having experienced multiple personality disorders and getting over it. BARR: Well that was the tough one. HANNITY: I better was. Was that like having voices in your head? BARR: No, it's nothing like having voices, that's schizophrenia. HANNITY: OK. What do I know, I'm not an expert. Or at times different personalities? BARR: Get to waking up and not knowing where you are and how you got there. It's a loss of time. It's like wow! HANNITY: Just disappeared like you would-- BARR: Yes. HANNITY: And you were another person and didn't know it? BARR: No memory of any of it. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And people have tell you-- BARR: Just like when I had it multiple, you know, it's called this is associated to my identity disorder now. I had something like four prescriptions for glasses. But I did wake up and find myself in places and didn't know why I put myself there and that's just terrifying. And you know, I no longer do that. But, you know, my whole life I spent like that. One time I woke up in a truck in New York City. HANNITY: I don't think there is one viewer, Roseanne, honestly that doesn't have a family member-- BARR: Sure. HANNITY: -- a friend or a neighbor, you know. BARR: With mental health issues? HANNITY: I think everybody watching knows somebody. And when I hear it, what you just describe to me, it's scary. (CROSSTALK) BARR: I told ABC, Sean. It was scary, Sean. I told ABC, I don't feel that I am in a good mentally balanced place. Because I'd been working like something like just way too many weeks. HANNITY: Leading up to this. BARR: Yes. And going on promotions and crossing from Hawaii to New York. I became Ambien dependent. And a lot of people had problems with Ambien and they're not going to deal with that away. But I'm one of them. And you know, I've climbed a house full of triscuits and found the cheese, you know. HANNITY: You wouldn't remember when you woke up? BARR: Well, I'll see it in the kitchen. HANNITY: But you wouldn't remember, you'd see it and say I must have eaten this during the-- (CROSSTALK) BARR: Yes, eggs cracked on the wall, and trying to make brownies. HANNITY: And not remember it? BARR: No. Till the morning. But this is like-- HANNITY: I'm sorry. BARR: You know, Ambien does that to people. HANNITY: Let me ask last question. BARR: No, I wanted to say this whole other things. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You wanted to keep going? You wanted a full hour? BARR: Now the things now I forgot. I'm sorry. HANNITY: Last question. BARR: I start going. HANNITY: Now what's next for you? BARR: I told ABC-- HANNITY: OK. BARR: -- you guys, I'll go get and my meds checked. HANNITY: You're getting prescription. You knew -- you knew you were going to a dark place? BARR: I knew I wasn't keeping up because I had this a whole other subject. You know, I don't absorb vitamins. Well, I found out I was really depleted. And that affects your mental health. HANNITY: You think you do way too much and not getting the time that you need? BARR: No because I'm supposed to go to the hospital every eight weeks and get infusions because I don't absorb iron and vitamins. HANNITY: And you had none. BARR: And I just saying I'm going -- I wanted that show. I wanted a second season so bad that I worked myself, you know, almost to the end. HANNITY: Tell me what's next for you? BARR: Porn. No. HANNITY: Really? BARR: No, I'm kidding. HANNITY: What's next? Porn that's your headline, you know. BARR: No. I just love doing my own stuff in my own studio and talk to people. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You want to go back on stage? You want to call that-- BARR: I do want to go back on tour, yes. I want to go on tour and do my stand up. Because my stand up I just love looking out there. And I don't have like, I have a really good diverse audience of fans. And I'm very proud of that. You know, I don't just preaching to the converted. I got all kinds of opinions and I try to unify what's universal between all of us. (END VIDEOTAPE) HANNITY: When we come back, a really great video of the day. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Tonight's video of the day is a sneak peek of TMZ's Harvey Levin's interview with Jeopardy's Alex Trebek on this weekend's episode of OBJECTified. I've always wanted to be Alex Trebek. I do great at home. Anyway, take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HARVEY LEVIN, HOST, TMZ: I just absolutely love your show. And one of the things that I always think about when I watch it, is I watch you read the answers. And some of them are complicated. Do you rehearse these? ALEX TREBEK, TV HOST: If there's words that are going to be difficult to pro -- to say properly -- I make diacritical remarks so that the people at home think, gosh, Trebek is so bright. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Harvey and Alex on OBJECTified. It's a great show if you haven't seen it yet at 8 p.m. Eastern right here on the Fox News Channel. The show will always be fair and balanced. We are not the destroy-Trump media. Thank you so much for being with us. Have a great summer weekend. A lot to get to on Monday when we get back here. We'll see you then. Load-Date: July 28, 2018 End of Document Hannity's Exclusive One-on-One Interview With Comedian Roseanne Barr Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST July 26, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7858 words Byline: Sean Hannity Guests: Roseanne Barr Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right Tucker, thank you, great show. Welcome to HANNITY. For the very first time since getting fired by ABC over what was in her own words a tweet that is indefensible, Roseanne Barr sits down with us for a one-on-one interview in studio, just happened about an hour and a half ago. We were supposed to air tonight an interview with the Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan, he announced today he's running for Speaker of the House. That interview will now air tomorrow. And plus breaking news right now, reports that an U.S. military plane is in en route to North Korea to pick up the remains of U.S. servicemen that were killed during the Korean War, as was promised and part of the agreement in Singapore, we'll keep you updated on that story. But tonight, our interview Roseanne. Now, we will warn you, some parts of the sit down are controversial. Some of you will find it offensive, consider that your viewer warning. Now after starting her career as a stand-up comedian, Roseanne Barr became a household name, for nine years -- 1988 to 1997, she starred in her very own sitcom. A huge hit on ABC. Now she won an Emmy, a Golden Globe and multiple other awards before "Roseanne" wrapped up after nine iconic seasons. But, well year after year, wherever Roseanne Barr went controversy in fact followed. 1990 -- she was booed off the field, she "sang" -- she maybe screeched is a better word -- the national anthem. She grabbed her crotch, she spit in a rendition of the national anthem, that was at a Padres game, we'll talk about that. In 2009 she posed as a cookie baking Nazi for a satirical Jewish magazine. She once told Joy Behar that Sarah Palin was a slave to right-wing men, on her blog she compared all republicans to even pedophiles. She talks about her political transformation tonight, she also floated the idea that practicing Catholics, which I was raised Catholic, should lose custody of their kids. 2012 she actually ran for president, she lost to Jill Stein in the Green Party Primary. But earlier this year, after some time away from the spotlight. Roseanne Barr made a huge comeback. A few months ago she spearheaded a reboot of the hit show that bears her name. The new "Roseanne" debuted with massive ratings as Barr played a Trump supporting, politically-incorrect family matriarch. And however, only after a few episodes the show was cancelled after she tweeted this about former Obama advisor Valerie Jarrett -- quote, you can see it right there, Muslim Brotherhood, "Planet of the Apes" had a baby, VJ. Valerie Jarrett is an African-American woman, she was born in Iran. Now Roseanne rightfully apologized many times. The damage was done. The "Roseanne" reboot was cancelled after hours of that tweet. Recently on her YouTube page, Roseanne had this to say about her tweet, which we'll ask her about and the controversy that followed. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROSEANNE BARR, ACTRESS: I am trying to talk about Iran -- I'm trying to talk about Valerie Jarret from the Iran deal. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You told me this three different times. Do you know that -- BARR: That's what my tweet was about. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I know. You've explained it literally 300 times. BARR: I thought the [EXPLETIVE DELETED] was white! [EXPLETIVES DELETED]. I thought the [EXPLETIVE DELETED] was -- (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So such a short time ago, I sat down with Roseanne for her first -- very first national TV interview since her show was cancelled. We begin with Part 1. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Joining us now, she really needs no introduction, Roseanne Barr is with us. Roseanne thanks for coming. Good to see you. BARR: Thanks for having me Sean. HANNITY: All right. You sent this tweet out. BARR: Yes. Actually I was hacked. No, I'm kidding. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: You're kidding. You haven't lost your sense of humor. You started out as a comedian. Well, I want to talk about your background and everything, but I want to get right to it. Muslim Brotherhood, Planet of the Apes, you're talking about Valerie Jarrett. BARR: Yes. HANNITY: And obviously you -- what were you thinking when you said that? I know you said people shouldn't defend you. BARR: Oh I -- I just didn't want to get into the whole game of it. That was a political tweet and, you know, I've been on Twitter for a long time and I'm always -- let's put it this way, I walked away in 2012 when I ran for President of the Socialist Party. And I -- I thought for myself that it wasn't where my values were at after all, and I began to read more and expand the little tiny bit of sanction news that I used to read. Instead, I -- I started reading alternate opinions, and I learned more and so I corrected myself. HANNITY: Yes. BARR: And now I live -- and I told ABC this at the beginning, I'll -- I will always defend Israel, because I'm a Jew and also have family that lives there. HANNITY: In Israel? BARR: Yes. So I -- that is a tweet about asking for accountability from the previous administration about the Iran deal, which Valerie Jarrett is the author of. And that was what was in my head. HANNITY: OK. Let's go back to -- you do understand. BARR: Now I do. HANNITY: Did you not understand when you tweeted it out? BARR: No, I was so shocked that -- HANNITY: Well let me ask you this -- what do you understand? BARR: Well I don't understand a lot to tell you the truth. The first thing was shock that they were saying it's racial, when it's political. And I -- that was a hard one to take. And then everybody started saying I was a racist, which is like the worst thing that you can call a Jewish person, especially one who, like me, grew up with Holocaust survivors. And at age three, because of that fact, I took a vow to my God that I would always fight extremism. On either side, right or left. And for a long time I thought I was fighting it on the right by being really left. And then I just slowly woke up and saw that both extremes are not where my values are. My values are in the middle. And I -- I believe that we have the right to ask for accountability for where our tax money goes. And when I ran for president in 2012, I ran as the representative of the black caucus of the Green Party. And they trusted me so much, too. Black people chose me. And I was humbled by that. And I ran on an anti-racist - - you know, Clinton's drug wars and what that means, that one in every four African American males are in prison for pot and lesser -- I mean it's just -- I'm very informed. I'm not -- you know, I've always been political. My comedy is political. HANNITY: Do you see now -- BARR: Yes. HANNITY: -- in other words, I guess what I'm trying to ascertain, Roseanne, is that the reaction was universal. BARR: Well, it seemed that way. HANNITY: Well, in many ways it was. What do you see about it now? I mean, in other words, I know you tweeted out apologies -- BARR: Yes, I did -- HANNITY: -- this is an opportunity to really talk to people. BARR: Well, I've apologized a lot. It's been two months and I've -- I feel that I have apologized and explained and asked for forgiveness and made recompense. Those are the -- that's part of my religion. HANNITY: You said that to Rabbi Shmuley. BARR: Yeah, because there's four parts of being forgiven in order to come back into your own good graces. And I was so sad that people thought it was racist. And then I went into the whole thing about the whole discussion of racism, and that blew my mind because it's so much a part of what the show I was doing was about. And I'm like, why can they not see my work? And then I got really messed up thinking in this world it seems as if words matter more than actions but in the real life world, actions matter more than words. And my actions over 30 years as an artist and a comedian, I've always been against the abuse of power towards all marginalized groups. But now I feel like both the left and the right have marginalized the middle, and it's just too crazy. And the thing that broke my heart the most -- I have to say this -- is that I have African American children in my family, and in my loved circle -- SEAN HANNITY: In your immediate family? BARR: Yes, and in my loving circle -- and Asians too, and Hispanic people and Jews get around, let's put it like that. But I felt so bad for those kids, because I love them and I don't want them to think of me like that, you know? And I know -- and I was so sad. And I'm so sad that anyone thinks that of me, but I'm not that person. And I was going through a lot of -- a very hard time, you know? How would you like it to be sittin' in a room with 25 people who think Trump is the worst thing that's ever happened to the United States? How would you like it, could you do your job? HANNITY: It happens to me everyday. BARR: Really? HANNITY: Yeah, there are a lot of people that don't like what I have to say. BARR: In your circle? HANNITY: Oh, I don't know if you read a lot about Sean Hannity but this is -- BARR: I do. HANNITY: Here's what I really -- BARR: People that work on your show are like that? HANNITY: There's plenty of people around here that disagree with every word I say, and hate what I stand for. Absolutely, disagree adamantly with me -- but you know, I signed up, I give strong opinions and some people disagree, but I have no problem with people disagreeing. Here's what I -- BARR: I don't either but, that's what upset me so bad was that I like to hear all sides that's how I form a story. HANNITY: Oh, I have a whole list of stuff you said about republicans and Catholics -- of which you know -- BARR: I've said it about everybody -- listen. I hate everyone equally. HANNITY: But obviously you're kidding. BARR: No, but everybody deserves to be joked about. HANNITY: Here's what I want - BARR: Anybody who is in any kind of position of power deserves to have a joke about them, and if they can't laugh at themselves then that means something. If you can't laugh at yourself first before you start laughing at everybody else -- that means something. HANNITY: Is that how you started your career, by Domestic Goddess? BARR: Yes. HANNITY: And you poke a lot of fun at yourself? BARR: I'd tell more jokes about myself than I do anybody else, because to me, comedy is very personal, and that's what makes it funny. That's what made people like the Roseanne show because they saw themselves in - or have an aunt, or their mom or their sister -- somebody in their family was you know -- a loud, outspoken woman who loved her family. And that was what I was so excited about to come back to television, was to show that that family is also multi-racial and lives next door to Muslims who I guess they don't agree with. That was what I brought to television and what kicked everybody's ass in the ratings, and they should be so lucky that they'll ever get anywhere near that. And they can't take that away from me no matter what's happened. HANNITY: This is an opportunity -- there are a lot of people, Roseanne, that are not on social media. BARR: Yes. HANNITY: Maybe haven't read your apologies. BARR: Yes, their smart. HANNITY: Well -- they're probably -- are you off now Twitter forever? BARR: Well my kids took it away from me forever. HANNITY: Well, you could always get another phone, but here's I think a very important -- BARR: I did. HANNITY: For those people though, that -- and I'll put up some of the apologies here that you've tweeted out. But, there are still a lot of people that look at that comment and they think that you -- they cannot believe that you didn't know better. BARR: Yes, I know. But I didn't. HANNITY: But I want you to address that? Address those people. BARR: You know, I made a mistake -- obviously. It cost me everything -- my life's work, everything. I made a mistake, and I've paid the price for it. But no, I did not know she was -- like a lot of Americans including a lot of people of all types -- they didn't know either. HANNITY: I mean-- I've read that you said that. That you didn't -- and you had this crazy video this week. What was -- what -- what was that? BARR: Oh, I was so mad. While I was filming this thing to, you know, my real apology which followed it. But I just -- everybody was like, well, you're not addressing this correctly. And so, I just lost it. And everybody started laughing. So, I go I'll put it up there. HANNITY: All right. Let's say -- BARR: Because it was a joke. HANNITY: -- Valerie Jarrett -- BARR: Yes. HANNITY: -- was watching now. BARR: Well, she said she wouldn't watch -- HANNITY: She said she wouldn't, but -- BARR: -- on The View yesterday. HANNITY: -- but -- but she'll hear about it. BARR: Yes. HANNITY: My question is I want you to address her because she was -- and - - and maybe not just her, but maybe people in the community that are so outraged about it. I want you to address them -- BARR: All right. HANNITY: -- from your heart and tell them. BARR: Here's what I have to say. Let's talk about it. Let's really turn this into a teachable moment. We need to talk about race and all -- everything that's connected to it, including not knowing that someone who's -- looks like me, her skin tone is like mine and I'm brown. I didn't know she was African American. I -- I assumed because she was, you know, from Iran, and lived in Iran for such a long time, and writes about how she -- she and Barack Obama hung out for a long time, and the reason they were so tight and such friends is because they -- they don't like the idea of American exceptionalism. They like that, you know, every country has its own culture and we should, you know, we should respect them, and this and that. OK, that's kind of a globalist way of thinking. But I'm like -- I can talk to people like that. But I don't think a state that kills gays and, you know, stones rape victims -- HANNITY: Talking about Iran (ph)? BARR: -- yes -- and is a brutal -- where people don't even have drinking water, and they have no rights, women have no right. I don't think that is like America. America's not like that. America is place where I, a loudmouth, old, gorgeous Jewish woman comedian am allowed freedom of speech. HANNITY: Is this the freedom of speech you wanted to use? It's a -- because it's -- BARR: I -- well, of course, I look back and go -- come on, Sean, get real. I mean it cost me everything. No, I wish I had worded it better. But I'm not going to let them tell me what I meant. And that's what makes me so mad, because I know myself and I will speak for myself. And I won't have, you know, any people who don't share my culture tell me what I meant. And you know, they've called me a racist on the left for a long time, ever since I said the Jewish people have a right to live in their ancestral homeland. That's racism to them, to the -- to the far- left, of which I used be one of. But I don't want to be one of few. I want to be one of many. Because I like the whole thing about America, that this is where we have a melting pot and we speak to each other. And we unite, and we get common things such as, where in the hell did our tax money go? I mean, where did it go? And how can a president just ship palettes of cash to another country without that going through Congress? HANNITY: You didn't say this in the beginning. You didn't say this was about Iran. BARR: I did too. I'm on there every damn day talking about Iran for 10 years. HANNITY: Well, but I mean in this particular comment about -- BARR: Well, are you going to take one comment out of a conversation? HANNITY: I'm not arguing with you. I'm trying to get - (CROSSTALK) BARR: No, I'm just saying, but that is what they did. And this is a continuing conversation about the rights of people in Iran to throw off their overlords. HANNITY: I guess when I'm listening to you as I -- I said have you talked to Valerie Jarrett directly? BARR: I would say this, Valerie, let's discuss this. Don't assume that you know what I meant, because I think you don't know what I meant. And I would like to make it clear to you what I did meant -- mean. And I would like to find a way past all that to really discuss the issue at hand and to try to find common ground between us. HANNITY: Would you want to say sorry to her directly? Would you like to talk -- BARR: Well, I have already. HANNITY: Have you talked -- I haven't talked to you (ph). BARR: No I haven't called her, because I was like thinking what would be the right thing to say -- HANNITY: Would you like to? BARR: To call her? HANNITY: Yes. BARR: You think she'd -- I'm afraid she'd start screaming -- throw the phone down. HANNITY: Well if you picked up (ph) -- if I had her number and I handed the phone to you right now, what would be the first thing you'd say to her? BARR: Well, do you? And want to do it? HANNITY: No, I'm asking but there's maybe -- (CROSSTALK) BARR: I'll call her if anybody's got her number. HANNITY: Anyone got her number? No, nobody. But if you did call her -- this is -- and I think this is the important thing, you're saying you want to talk about issues and this is a bigger picture and a teachable moment. (CROSSTALK) BARR: Yes. It is a teachable moment. HANNITY: I would think the first thing you'd want to do -- if it was me I would want to say I am -- I'd want her to hear my voice say I am so sorry, and I know you've tweeted it and I know you've said it, but now that you have a very different perspective on the comments - BARR: Yes HANNITY: I would assume you'd want to start there. BARR: Well, I already have said I'm sorry for two months. HANNITY: I know that but you'd want to say it directly to her is what I'm asking? BARR: Yes. If she was on the phone or something you mean? HANNITY: Yes. BARR: Yes. Well she's not, but if she's watching, I'm so sorry that you thought I was racist and that you thought that my tweet was racist because it wasn't. It was political. And I'm sorry for the misunderstanding that caused my ill- worded tweet. And -- you know, I'm sorry that you feel harmed and hurt. I never meant that and -- and for that I apologize. I -- I never meant to hurt anybody or say anything negative about an entire race of people, which I think 30 years of my work can attest to. HANNITY: Let me go beyond that and just talk about -- BARR: And plus I'd tell her she's got to get a new haircut. I mean seriously. She -- she needs a new haircut. HANNITY: People say that about me all the time so I would imagine you'd say that about me. BARR: Yes. I would. HANNITY: Yes, you think so? BARR: A little bit, yes. HANNITY: Anything particular you want -- BARR: Because I think your part -- it needs to over more towards this side. The part seems like it's in the middle too much. HANNITY: Let me ask this. This also impacted -- and I know that you tweeted out that it was the whole -- BARR: Yes. HANNITY: This was the biggest -- I actually have the numbers, I think after they watch with DVR viewing. BARR: Yes. HANNITY: Twenty-seven million people. I mean this -- this is -- BARR: Yes. And of course I want to apologize to all of them too and say - - you know you've heard my explanation in the first part of this show, and I hope you'll try to understand me and accept my apologies for the part in this big misunderstanding. HANNITY: Let me ask you, you also did it at like 2:30 in the morning? BARR: Yes. HANNITY: You were on Ambien. BARR: Yes. HANNITY: Were you drinking? BARR: Yes. I told you that. It was Memorial Day. I had two beers. HANNITY: Just two? BARR: Yes. HANNITY: OK. (CROSSTALK) BARR: I can't drink. HANNITY: Do you take Ambien a lot? (CROSSTALK) BARR: I can't drink. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Do you take -- (CROSSTALK) BARR: Two beers. No. HANNITY: And there's a -- there's a whole other -- BARR: There was a whole lot of other physical things going on in my life too. Now, you want me to talk about that? HANNITY: Well, I've actually -- BARR: I actually have this right here. HANNITY: Yes. I just saw what you did. OK. I've read a lot about you and it's actually -- I didn't know all of this. BARR: Oh. HANNITY: You have said in the past -- you said once to Larry King that you suffer from multiple personality disorder. BARR: Well I don't suffer from it anymore. HANNITY: You don't? BARR: I enjoy it. HANNITY: You enjoy multiple personality -- BARR: Now. HANNITY: OK. And you said that while you just do crazy things and you don't really -- know you do, or don't want to do. Does that still happen in your life? BARR: No. Well, I guess it does if you're drunk. HANNITY: You called it -- do you get drunk a lot -- BARR: No. HANNITY: Do you have a substance abuse -- BARR: No, no. I wish (ph). HANNITY: You also once said -- BARR: I'd love to develop it though. HANNITY: You'd love to develop an alcoholic -- BARR: I like drinking, yeah. HANNITY: You like drinking, you wish you could drink. You just said you can't drink. BARR: I know. I have no tolerance. HANNITY: I take three kinds of anti-depressants everyday. BARR: Yes. No, two kinds now. HANNITY: Two kinds. BARR: One's a blood pressure pill so that's great. HANNITY: OK. BARR: I take an anti-depressant and a blood pressure pill, and then I take some more anti-depressants. HANNITY: I read in the "Seattle Times" when you were out promoting your book -- this was in 1994, your father abused you sexually. BARR: Well that I'm not -- HANNITY: Your mother psychologically -- that you would cover yourself in ketchup, lie on the floor, play dead -- until little Roseanne cried, because of allegations your parents would deny -- BARR: Now that's wrong. I put the ketchup on -- laid on the floor for a joke for when my mom came in, and she'd think I was dead. HANNITY: How old were you when you were sexually abused? BARR: Well, now I have a whole different view of that. HANNITY: You don't think you were sexually abused? BARR: I think I was emotionally abused, and -- HANNITY: You said your mother psychologically, your father was sexual. BARR: Yes, everybody in my whole family's messed up. HANNITY: Do you think -- you really -- serious question, because you've said in multiple interviews that you had multiple personality disorder -- BARR: Yes. HANNITY: So I guess the question then is, do you think that any of this plays in to -- I have some -- you've had crazy moments, let's be honest. We'll call it what it is. BARR: Well you shouldn't call a mental health patient crazy. HANNITY: OK, you've had some very -- BARR: In fact that's one funny thing that Tom Arnold said, "never call a crazy person crazy". HANNITY: Oh, then that's an interesting -- BARR: But I have mental health issues, yes. I had -- HANNITY: How were -- how long have you -- have bad has it gotten for you with that? BARR: Terrible. HANNITY: How bad? Tell people. BARR: As bad as it gets. HANNITY: You ever institutionalized? BARR: Honey, that's like going to the beach for me. HANNITY: Seriously, you've had -- BARR: I've been hospitalized a lot, yes. Several times, yes. HANNITY: You think -- in a lot of ways -- I love comedians. I've watched everyone from Richard Pryor, I watched Chris Rock -- I watch every standup comedian -- BARR: I do too. HANNITY: I've watched you, and everybody. And it seems, and I might be way off base saying this and if I am tell me -- BARR: You're way off base -- no -- HANNITY: Thank you. That the creative genius for comedians, it's like the blessing is their curse. It's like they have this ability to be funny -- BARR: Well it's very close in being a create genius. HANNITY: No, I'm serious. BARR: No, but I know I am. But anyway -- no but I am. HANNITY: So you're a domestic goddess? BARR: Yeah. HANNITY: Understood. BARR: That part of your psyche, your brain is really close to the madness -- it is very close. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: When we come back, Roseanne opens up very emotionally, honestly with her struggles with mental illness, and more about this controversary, as we continue. HANNITY: More of my exclusive interview with Roseanne Barr. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Do you think there are other people inside you with multiple personalities, that actually speak and you don't even recognize it? BARR: No not anymore, I am fully integrated. HANNITY: How long is was -- BARR: I'm fully integrated and I was fully integrated at Stanford University about 12 years ago. HANNITY: Was it a medicine that transformed your life? BARR: No, it was therapy. HANNITY: Therapy? BARR: Like, 20 years of it. HANNITY: You -- look, you've had a lot of controversy. BARR: I've done the work though. I just have to pat myself on the back there. I wanted to get better, and this all happened when I was pregnant with my son. He's 23 and graduating from college; very proud. But when I was pregnant with him, first I got pregnant -- first, they implanted six eggs and four of them took. And I was like, oh my God. I was at Planet Hollywood and I told Bruce Willis, oh my God, I'm having -- I'm having quadruplets. HANNITY: Right. BARR: Beat that for a headline, [EXPLETIVE DELETED]. And I was so excited. But then, I started to lose them, you know? And -- and they put me in this thing where you -- I absorbed them, my body absorbed. And there was only one egg left there and it was kind of hanging. It didn't know whether to come or go. So they get me on this biofeedback deal, where I'd say I want you to stay, into this machine. It was -- and it -- HANNITY: Did it work? BARR: Yes, it worked. But this deep spiritual thing of that, it started to heal all the parts of me that were crazy and out of control. HANNITY: I noticed that -- BARR: Because I learned to focus and I learned to meditate. And that helped me a lot with therapy -- HANNITY: You were very -- BARR: -- and medication. HANNITY: And medication. And you said -- and you really embraced your Jewish faith. BARR: And I have a great shrink. Well, I've always been very religious since I was a little girl. Like, did I say this, that I grew up in an apartment building full of Holocaust survivors, and every Friday they would come over to my grandma's apartment. My -- my grandparents owned a -- an apartment building. They brought 50- or-so survivors from the camps, and that's where I grew up. And every Friday, they'd all come to -- HANNITY: You had family that was in Auschwitz and they had tattoos? BARR: Yes, they all had tattoos. And they would say terrible things to me when I -- I was only 3. And they would tell me the things. And I mean, it wasn't -- it was too much for my mind to handle. And they would make me watch the Eichmann trial too, and I was only 3. They go, she needs to know. It's was little girls like her that they did this to. HANNITY: Was it on TV? BARR: Yes. The Eichmann trial? HANNITY: Yes. BARR: Yes. And so, that split me emotionally; deeply. It was a horror to me, and it still is a horror to me. HANNITY: A lot of evil in the world. BARR: Yes, but there's so much love. That's what I was going to tell you, Sean, but you were going through all this trash -- HANNITY: I didn't even to tell you that -- BARR: -- let me tell you what. Oh, go ahead. But I'm going to tell you - - HANNITY: No, no. Go ahead. I want -- I want you tell your story. I want to -- BARR: -- no, I love you, Sean. You're -- you've been a good friend to me. HANNITY: -- I want to -- I want for you to tell your story. Listen, I'll tell you how you got on this show -- BARR: I'm going to tell my story like this. When I go outside now -- I was so scared to go outside. It was like, my God, everyone things I'm a racist. You know, and I live on an island where it's all brown people. I'm like, oh hell. You know? My daughter says everyday people come in and they're like, we -- we know who your mom is and all these things like that. And I would go out on the street and people just rush up to me to tell me they love me and they don't think, you know, what happened was balanced to the other people that do worse things, and say mean -- really mean things that aren't political but are just mean. And I'll tell you, I -- it blew my mind because I'm like, man, I got more - - I've never felt this kind of love from people. It has been overwhelming. It's just -- I just thank them. I tell them, you know, if it wasn't for my fans, I probably wouldn't even be walking around. It was just devastating. To be misunderstood, it's the worst thing. And I want to sing that song. Oh, Lord, please don't let me be -- HANNITY: Sing -- sing -- BARR: -- I want to sing that because now I have a band. I've always wanted to sing. HANNITY: -- I saw you sing the National Anthem. It wasn't -- BARR: Shut up. That wasn't good. HANNITY: -- that was not good. BARR: Did you see my follow up though? I bet you didn't because you're in the news. But I did a follow up Sean. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Beat the host up. (CROSSTALK) BARR: I followed up that -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You grabbed your crotch and spit. BARR: Well that's what the stupid pitcher told me to do, and they are all are -- they're like rats off a ship. I was trying to make him laugh. He said that would be so funny. I was like OK, I'll do it. HANNITY: Right. BARR: So I did it and it wasn't funny and I learned a lesson, never take comedy advice from a pitcher. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: You really -- it's important to you -- and I remember when I first talked to you -- (CROSSTALK) BARR: I want people to like me. I don't want them to hate me. I -- I like them. HANNITY: You wanted people -- this is what you said to me, you said this is not me. This is what you said. The exact words you said. (CROSSTALK) BARR: It's not me. Not the picture they painted. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You said I want people to know who I really am. That's what you said to me. BARR: I know. HANNITY: So here is -- you know it's going to be a lot of people watching because you're here tonight. Tell those people who you are. BARR: Well I'm a creative genius and this -- this is not a good feeling for an artist to be treated this way. And it's not a good feeling for a citizen either. And here's who I am. I'm somebody who cares about civil rights. I'd reject what you call me. You call me a racist. I don't accept it. I know who I am and I'm not a racist and the people who voted for Trump, they're not racist either and Trump isn't a racist. Sorry but you know we just have a different opinion. We all want the same thing though. We want people in the inner cities that are living in feces -- and I'm talking about my son goes to school in San Francisco, I go up there. I just don't blab and run my mouth. I live my beliefs. I want people to know that. I live my beliefs. I try and of course I fail, but I try and I get back up and try again. HANNITY: I don't want to interrupt you every second, because I want you to speak in your own words. But you -- listen P.C. is sickening. BARR: It is. It's not American, and I start -- HANNITY: You said, "I live around brown people," like for example, would you not say -- why not say, "African- American people"? BARR: I live around African-American people too. I live in a real neighborhood; I don't live behind gates with body guards. I live in a real neighborhood of working people. I chose to do that. HANNITY: You know I was going to ask you about all these other controversaries -- BARR: Don't start (ph) -- HANNITY: -- but you know what? BARR: I've made a lot of mistakes, I live my life out loud. You know, I do it, when things are going too far right, I'm going to go a little left and when things are going too far left, I'm going to go a little right, because I like balance in the middle. I like middle America, I like middle way, I like the middle class, I like the middle opinion that balances two extremes. Most people in America I think, think like that. HANNITY: You know, it's funny because a lot of people I don't think -- I think a lot of people misunderstand what motivates me. And what motivates me in this 2016 presidential election, for me, was about what we call the forgotten men -- BARR: Absolutely. HANNITY: -- and the forgotten women. You know, a lot of people don't know, and -- some people -- people that watch this show regularly know I was a paperboy at 8, dishwasher at 12, cook, busboy, waiter, bartender, I painted houses, I hung wall paper, laid tile, framed, fell off the roof three stories doing roofing -- that was decades of my life. And I'd never thought I'd be in this position. I'm very thankful for it everyday. But those people -- we had at the end of eight years of Obama -- 13 million more Americans on food stamps and 8 million more on poverty and the worst recovery since the '40s and a 51-year low home ownership rate and he doubled the national debt and accumulated more debt than every other president before him combined. So it's not politics because republicans are weak, BARR: I agree (ph). HANNITY: -- they are pathetically, feckless, weak . it's -- BARR: Well, I don't know know -- HANNITY: A lot of them. BARR: A lot of them are because they're all -- there's only one party, come on. They all golf together. They're not on like other sides. They're pocketing public money. HANNITY: There are a few good people, not a lot. BARR: But they're all taking the money. Every side, both sides -- every place they're taking the money. HANNITY: It's a swamp. Washington, D.C. is a sewer, there's no doubt about it. BARR: But that's our money, that's the peoples' money. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And Roseanne talks about Donald Trump and so much as we continue. HANNITY: And more with my exclusive interview with Roseanne Barr. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Look at you and I look at your success -- I mean, nine years as a top hit show. And then to come back and this environment with cable, and Hulu and Netflix and everything else in that environment -- and you get this massive audience. And tell the story when this all went down with ABC? BARR: Which story -- which part? HANNITY: When -- what they first called you, they had asked you first of all to get rid of your Twitter account and you didn't listen. BARR: Yeah, but I said to them in the beginning, I'm never going to stop defending Israel and the Jewish people. HANNITY: Right. BARR: So that's me. I was raised that way, and that's how I learned. And it's very important to me, it's central to my life. So, they said OK. So anyway -- this whole, I did what I did. And then they called me and they said, "What possible excuse could you have for this unforgivable and egregious tweet?" And I said, "What do you mean exactly?" HANNITY: You didn't know? BARR: No. You could've knocked me over with a feather when they said she was African-American. My boyfriend saw it and was like, "What?" I thought she was Middle-Eastern. Anyway, well because you know -- HANNITY: But this is wrong to say everyone's -- any comparison to -- BARR: I -- compared to what? They've lied about my tweet from day one. They said, "She said she looks like," I never used the words looks like. HANNITY: You don't use politically correct terms, like -- BARR: No. HANNITY: Like I heard earlier in this - BARR: I'm not going to either because it's sickening. HANNITY: What do you want -- and I now that ABC has gotten rid of it. And America's going to hear you tonight. What is the future for Roseanne Barr? What do you want to have happen, for example, ABC's now kick starting basically the Roseanne Barr Show -- BARR: First of all, I just want to tell you this -- I walked away from that show despite the fact that I had a contract which protected me from if I got in trouble with tweets. HANNITY: It said that in your contract? BARR: Yes. HANNITY: And they didn't pay you? BARR: Well, we can't talk about that, but I was allowed under my contract to have 24 hours to correct any mistakes and I asked them to let me go on `The View' and their other shows and explain, and correct that I didn't say what they were putting out there. And you know, they said no you can't until the contract's ready. And that took weeks. HANNITY: Right. BARR: But anyway, I walked away. HANNITY: You felt bad about your staff. I did see that. BARR: I wanted -- I didn't want to cause anybody to lose their jobs. I'm -- I'm for working-people. And that one really stuck. And I was like, well, I'm -- I'm not -- I could fight this because they didn't give me the notice or the chance to correct. But I'm like, no, it's going to be part of the recompense if I'm going to just walk away. HANNITY: I want to ask you about that. You signed off on this reboot without with you. What is called, the -- The Connors? BARR: Yes, I think. HANNITY: Did you have to sign-off on that to allow those people to work? BARR: Yes. HANNITY: You did? BARR: Yes. HANNITY: You were glad to do it? BARR: Well, I thought it was part of the, you know, what was put before me to do. HANNITY: And you -- BARR: I think God gives -- I always -- what God puts before me, I do. I don't anymore try to argue or win. I just do what's in front of me. HANNITY: Part of this to you is you said you want to make amends towards - - I think it's recompense. BARR: Yes. HANNITY: Do you -- that's part of your faith. BARR: Yes, you have to give money. HANNITY: So, recompense to you over this is what? BARR: Money is the action you take in the physical world to make something better. HANNITY: Explain that though, recompense in this case is what? BARR: Well, I can't say that because it's secret. You're not supposed to tell people what you do. HANNITY: Just give us a hint. BARR: Well I gave -- HANNITY: Just so people know. I think people should know. BARR: Well, I told Shmuley. But you know, I gave to several things -- HANNITY: Organizations? BARR: -- African American things, yes, which I do anyway, but I gave a little bit more. And colleges and -- HANNITY: To help people? BARR: Yes, because I've helped a lot of people go to college. And they can't get a damn job, and they're in debt. So they're not really grateful for me to do that. But I also have a, you know, I -- I wanted to go to the poorest place in America and see how I could help there because, you know, the poorest place in America -- the poorest place in the richest country on earth, let's put it that way. And I have, for years, tried to help families there. And that's Pine Ridge Indian Reservation and Rosebud Indian Reservation. And I kind of have, you know, I just expand my family. And when I love people, I take them in as -- you know, I include them in my circle because family's not just about blood; it's about soul. You know? HANNITY: I still don't understand. Did you adopt African American children in your family? You said you have -- in your family. BARR: Oh, no. I -- I do. I have a dear friend whose son is my godson and -- and they're African American. And man, it was hard. You know? He called me right away. HANNITY: What'd he say? BARR: He said I love you no matter what you do. And I was like, look, man, I need to be understood here. Because I never -- who -- I mean, it's -- I just have to say this. If you think -- if people think, I'm saying to them, if you really think that at the height of my power and my fame I would go, black people look like, I mean, it's just -- I wouldn't. I mean, I'm not stupid. And that's what they keep selling. And then, after they misquoted the tweet for weeks, now they don't even include it and they just go, Roseanne's racist tweet. And they just keep shoving it down everybody's throat. I love all people. Let's say that. I love everybody. I include everybody in my circle. I put my money where my mouth is because I'm not a racist and I decided that this was going to move me to do my own interviews on my own YouTube channel and on there I -- I'm doing serious subjects and talking to interesting people who I don't 100 percent agree with, but we find common ground. And I think that's what America needs and that's what I was trying to do on my show. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: A lot more with Roseanne Barr when we continue. HANNITY: As we continue, more with Roseanne Barr. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Would you like to get back in TV, sitcom -- would you -- (CROSSTALK) BARR: Only if there's nudity. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: And you're going to be the -- the nude person on the show? BARR: Yes. But so far they refuse. HANNITY: So far they refuse. I don't know if you'd get that on network show anyway. But I think on YouTube you can do whatever you want. BARR: I just like talking to people and discussing what do you all think of this? What should we do? How can we make this better? HANNITY: You obviously care enough because you ran for President -- (CROSSTALK) BARR: Yes. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Twice right? BARR: Yes. HANNITY: I mean -- and obviously you care a lot about these issues but you're right. You politics have changed dramatically. BARR: Yes. HANNITY: And I -- (CROSSTALK) BARR: Because I've read more. HANNITY: Like what changed you? What -- what -- what books, what -- what shifted your political views? BARR: Well my experience in the Green Party and Socialist Party I just felt very marginalized there, and that I didn't belong because they don't like Israel. And I was like what? This is the worst place on Earth? I've been there, have you been there? HANNITY: Yes, many times. BARR: It's not -- It's a wonderful place. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I think I'm the biggest supporter of Israel on television. BARR: No, you are. HANNITY: Yes. BARR: But it's a wonderful place with problems like every place else. Well here's what I put a lot of thinking into -- I just say -- I do a lot of drinking -- I mean thinking and I have a solution for it. And it is -- I -- I've always been saying this for like 20 years. I think that if grandmothers -- Arab grandmothers, Jewish grandmothers, (inaudible) grandmothers, everyone who lives over there's grandmas; if we could get together and write up a grandmas treaty and then it present it to power, I think that'd be the fastest way to solving problems because there's no children -- there's no child on this Earth that should go to sleep in fear and danger. HANNITY: And hungry. BARR: We have enough money to fix this. HANNITY: We've got enough food to. (CROSSTALK) BARR: We have enough everything. HANNITY: I agree. BARR: Except love. So I -- I'm -- I'm a -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So there's a lot of evil in the world. You kind of rejected that earlier but -- (CROSSTALK) BARR: Well I wrote a whole book about that evil. I'll send it to you. HANNITY: I did too. BARR: I know you did. HANNITY: "Deliver Us from Evil." (CROSSTALK) BARR: Well mine was -- but you know how people I say get rid of your hate, get rid of your hate. But you're supposed to hate people. HANNITY: You know, I have an idea and I'm just going to throw it out at you as I listen to you. I think you obviously very sincere in saying I want to have a conversation. We need to -- and I think this country's never been this divided. BARR: And it's stupid because we got to get our money back from both sides. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Yes we do. (CROSSTALK) BARR: We have to talk to each other. Yes. HANNITY: You should go -- you know Roseanne and Friends Show. And what you should do is your stand up. BARR: Yes. I want to do that. HANNITY: And then -- and then invite a guest and have a real conversation. I think that would sell out in theaters all around the country and I think it would be good and invite Valerie Jarrett to go with you. BARR: I would do that because we could turn this in to a really great teachable moment, where there's a lot of synthesis, because that's why you have conversations so that you can synthesize your ideas and come up with a solution. And I'm tired of no solutions, Sean. That's why I like Trump because I think he's the solution -- HANNITY: You have a lot of -- the country has gotten dramatically better. And I actually said on the air, I think if he cured cancer at this point and gave every American $30 million they'd be -- they'd still hate him. BARR: Although I think they're coming around, because stuff's going up -- his approval. HANNITY: You seem to have had a really tough, brutal -- I haven't asked you about Tom Arnold yet. You still love him in a lot of ways, or no? BARR: Huh? Do I -- did you say do I still love him? HANNITY: Apparently not. BARR: What? HANNITY: Did he call you? BARR: No, hells no. No. That's 25 years ago, that's two husbands ago, Sean. HANNITY: I'm sorry, how many total? I'm sorry, I'm not keeping up. BARR: I'm on my fourth one, this one's my longest one -- 16 years. HANNITY: Yeah, it's going well? BARR: I don't know why he still likes me but he does. HANNITY: I heard he caught you smoking -- BARR: Well -- HANNITY: How did you hide it? BARR: Well because I wore a rubber glove and a hat and I'd go out in the alley, you know, and then I'd -- HANNITY: And he didn't know, he didn't smell it? BARR: I'd be wiping - HANNITY: Perfume. BARR: -- wild rose buds on me. And no, he didn't know -- and I lied. And so, on top of all this other stuff. HANNITY: Yeah. BARR: So he opens up the Yahoo, and there I am smoking in my mom's alley. And he came in and goes, because he knew, you know, that I'd kill him if he made me mad. HANNITY: Let me -- BARR: He goes, "sweetheart --" HANNITY: Yeah, you lied. BARR: "You lied to me, about smoking didn't you?" HANNITY: Ouch. What'd you say? BARR: Get out (ph). HANNITY: Here's the question I have, in all of my years on television there have been controversies. BARR: Yeah. HANNITY: Recently Samantha Bee, she still has her show. BARR: Yes. HANNITY: When Bill Maher got fired at ABC, I said I am not in favor of boycotts. I think people when they make mistakes have a right -- people -- I think the American people are fair. BARR: I do too. HANNITY: The American people are good. Forget the media. Forget the people that write stuff. I don't care if -- BARR: I think that's why they tune in to my show, 28 million -- HANNITY: Yes. BARR: -- because they wanted to see something balanced for once. HANNITY: Yes. BARR: Every other show, it's like 24-7 hating on Trump. And I call it hatriotism (ph). That's not going to help nothing. People want to hear the balance, so they want to hear the truth. And anything that isn't based on facts and data, and is pure emotion, that ain't right. HANNITY: OK, so, you're going to do standup? Maybe you can have a standup series -- BARR: I like that idea. HANNITY: -- part of it, right? So you do your stand up and then you sit down and have a conversation with somebody maybe you disagree with. BARR: Sean, I've got to tell you one thing before you kick me out of here. HANNITY: I'm not kicking you out; you can stay as long as you want. BARR: I really appreciate you being such a good friend to me through - when I was hiding in my mom's basement - HANNITY: I remember -- BARR: -- and I found cigarette butts from when I was 13 from when I used to smoke and they were damn good smoking. HANNITY: You smoked them again? All these years later? BARR: Yes, they were good. HANNITY: I remember when cigarettes were 50 cents a pack, that's how old I am. BARR: No they were 27. HANNITY: OK you're much older than me then. BARR: Yes. But I think you for the friendship, and you helped me through it a lot - and they'll get (ph) a lot of other people out there -- HANNITY: I wanted people (ph) - BARR: -- I just thank you so much for walking with me when I was in a real down place, thank you. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: More after this. HANNITY: All right, we're just out of time -- tomorrow, at 9:30, GDP numbers for second quarter, big news hopefully. Congressman Jim Jordan announced he's going to run for Speaker. We'll always be fair and balanced. Laura Ingraham standing by and take it away. How are you? Load-Date: July 27, 2018 End of Document The Battle over Immigration Policy Continues; Did Trump Have Prior Knowledge of the Infamous 2016 Trump Tower Meeting?; Robert Mueller's Investigation: Is it Winding Down?; Mueller Investigation Focusing on President Trump's Tweets; North Korea to Release Remains of America Soldiers from Korean War; Judicial Watch Files Ethics Complaint against Maxine Waters for Inciting Violence; Polling for Midterm Election Analyzed; Singer Demi Lovato Overdoses Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST July 26, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8233 words Byline: Laura Ingraham, Jason Chaffetz, Andrew McCarthy Guests: Tom Fitton, Nixon Garland, Mark Penn, Tom Bevan, Sonya Veytsman, Michael Wildes, Dinesh D'Souza, Kim Strassel Body LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hannity, thanks so much. Fascinating hour with Roseanne. SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Thank you INGRAHAM: I've got to watch the last half, I only saw the first half because I had to work for the second half HANNITY: Well, why didn't you watch the second half? INGRAHAM: I'm going to watch it tonight when I get back, but it was wild from beginning to end. So good job. That's like dealing with like a feral -- you know some kind of feral, wild deal, that was cool. HANNITY: All right. INGRAHAM: So congrats on that, Sean. HANNITY: All right, have a great show, we'll see you tomorrow. INGRAHAM: All right, and good evening. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is the INGRAHAM ANGLE. We have a phenomenal show lined up for tonight. We have breaking news on that 2016 Trump Tower meeting with supposedly Russian agents, you know Natalia Veselnitskaya (ph), lawyer-gal. So we'll talk to you about that. Plus a stunning turn of events in the impeachment campaign against Rod Rosenstein by the House GOP. Wait until you hear who Auntie Maxine claims is driving her anti-Trump crusade. And a major warning to democrats. Why they may be dead-wrong again about the polls ahead of the midterms. But first, when the inmates run the immigration asylum. That's the focus of tonight's ANGLE. Today was the court- imposed deadline for the Trump administration to reunite families who were separated due to that DOJ zero- tolerance approach to illegal immigration. Of course, all the usual suspects in the media painted a grim picture. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTFIED MALE: They're indicative of these emotional pains and struggles these families have been dealing with over the last several weeks. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I met two children from two different families. One a 7-year-old boy who loves the superhero Flash and the other an 11-year-old girl who has to help her father operate his smartphone and likes to play basketball. They are normal kids in almost every way, normal kids dealing with a very difficult situation. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Tonight the administration announced 1412 children have been delivered to parents in immigration custody, which took hundreds of staffers apparently to carry out. Lord knows how much money it took. But the fact that this ever happened drove the left to cry Trump's a heartless guy. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A practice that's been called heartless and cruel by republicans who almost never speak out. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They are being held, and they're being held against their will. This is a Trump policy that is blatantly cruel. REVEREND AL SHARPTON, MSNBC HOST: Most of Donald Trump's base wouldn't tolerate seeing white children treated like that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Reverend Al -- histrionics aside, the White House's hands were tied, remember -- by the 2015 ruling by Obama judge Dolly Gee, ordering that even children who cross the border with parents have to be released from custody in 20 days. That meant either Trump continued that old policy of catch and release, family units caught entering the country illegally, or parents were detained separately from their minor children, because the children had to be released. The administration chose the latter path which led to well -- mostly democrat-led protests across America which ultimately drove the White House back to back down. It was a total mess. Congress has a chance to change the law, close the loopholes. And let's face it, they could've tightened the asylum process and expedited the deportation hearings. But they chose to do nada. How brave. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. PAUL RYAN (R), WISCONSIN, SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: We have a broken immigration system. It doesn't work for anybody. Least of which to control our border. And so when we get to the moment where we're actually solving this problem, which I would prefer sooner rather than later, I really think it's going to gravitate around these four pillars. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: But then came a typical sneak move that we expect from democrats, but not from the president's own party. Before running to the airport today for their working August recess, the House held a sneaky vote on a Homeland Security appropriations bill that will only end up adding to our problems at the border. The amendment basically codifies DACA and was the brainchild of Congressman David Price, a democrat from North Carolina. But it wasn't just David Price. GOP Congressman Kevin Yoder, the all-important Chair of the Homeland Security subcommittee, was also in full support of the idea. Especially this part that made it easier for illegal immigrants to claim asylum. If they credibly fear gang-related or domestic violence. Yoder claims he was moved to change his position on asylum due to the influence of his mother. He said today "As a son of a social worker, I have great compassion for the victims of domestic violence anywhere, especially as it concerns those nations that turn a blind eye of crimes of domestic violence." Well, forgive me, Congressman, and I appreciate your personal story, but your family history shouldn't be allowed to thwart the president's immigration agenda. And frankly, imperil the party's prospects in the midterms. Until 2016, asylum was traditionally reserved for those in fear of persecution for things like their religious, their political or their ethnic background. Not due to one's fear of crime or the threat of domestic abuse in his or her home, as horrible as that is. But as a new barometer for asylum status is whether a foreigner feels safe in his or her home country, we should -- might as well through the borders wide open. It doesn't matter if you have a wall or no wall. Hundreds of millions of asylum requests are going to come pouring in. Now, it's worth remembering the Center for Immigration Studies estimates if this House language, like that in the Gang of Eight Bill, were to prevail in the Senate, we could be looking at 32 million new voting-age adults living in the United States by the year 2036. Democrats want desperately to replace Americans more conservative electorate with foreign, younger, usually more socially liberal voters. What does that mean? I'll tell you one thing it means -- no more Donald Trump. And big business will revel of course, in the glut of low-skilled workers in the midst of what they claim is a labor crunch. They also won't have to raise wages much, right? Which they are starting to do now, they're having to do it to fill these jobs. And that means more profit for themselves. But beyond the all the tears, the meltdowns and a lot of sad stories -- some sob stories - - it's critical for republicans not to cave to the democrats on immigration. This is just a desperate play by the resistance because Trump is beating them on the economy. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ELIZABETH MACDONALD, FBN HOST: The future is pointing North. Up 232 points. The market's loving this. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think we're on our way -- we back up, maybe to the January highs. MACDONALD: Wow, we may have 5 percent GDP growth coming Friday. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Because their phony Russia collusion pipedream is crumbling. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is just not a lot in the Trump collusion bucket to look at. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And because they are incapable of separating the president from his base. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: According to the new NBC news "Wall Street Journal" poll, 88 percent of republicans approve of the job President Trump is doing. The only president with a higher approval rating was in their own party at this point in their presidency, it was President George W. Bush less than a year after 9/11. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now is not the time for republicans to give in on immigration enforcement or melt because of the cheap, emotional media games. By the way, games that are only reserved for non-citizens. It was President Trump's get tough approach on immigration, his relentless focus on the American worker, the American family, that helped him win the election against all odds. Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania. Giving into the melodrama of the moment is not the way to go. In fact, that will end up further burdening the American taxpayer, who was already fed up with a political system that sometimes makes them feel like second-class citizens. I know, Mr. President, you will not let them down. And that is THE ANGLE. Joining me now for reaction is immigration attorney Michael Wildes who is the author of the new book "Safe Haven in America: Battles to Open the Golden Door." Our friend Alan Dershowitz wrote the forward. And Dinesh D'Souza, a filmmaker whose new movie, "Death of a Nation" is in theaters August 3, we're all looking forward to that. His accompanying book comes out on the same day. All right guys, a lot to unpack. Dinesh let's start with you. This is the kind of story I think republicans always have a hard time with because nobody likes to see a child crying, because he or she misses his mother or his father. It tugs at everybody's heartstrings. Mine. I am a mom. You're a dad. It has hard stuff to see, but this problem was brought on by politicians who refused to do the work they were supposed to do. And now the American people, as usual, are supposed to pick up the tab. Your reaction to all of this? DINESH D'SOUZA, FILMAKER, "DEATH OF A NATION": Well, I think on the one hand, there is grief, but there is also the manipulation of grief. The politics, if you could call it -- moist eyes. This isn't just the democratic party. It's also the media which frames these images. And so it's not that the republicans are insensitive. The republicans are scared of being portrayed as insensitive. And the democrats are using that charge, even though at heart, they know it's fake. And what I mean by that is look, we live in a Hobbesian world in which a lot of these problems, gang violence, domestic violence, these are epidemic -- particularly you know the favelas in Brazil, the slums of Bombay, all over China. These are global problems. America has never taken the position that our doors are open worldwide to anybody who is suffering from these problems. We create very carefully carved out exceptions, for example, political persecution or as you said earlier, religious persecution. And that is it. But the democrats are using the fact that they are able to dramatize these problems on our border to create a kind of emotional stampede. And then republicans feel politically defensive, run for the exits, in the kind of familiar invertebrate fashion. INGRAHAM: Well yeah, this Kevin Yoder, Congressman, I don't know him from Adam. But you know he brings this story -- his mother was a social worker. Well that's interesting and I'm glad she was a social worker, but that has nothing to do with our U.S. Immigration policy. And for some reason, like Donald Trump had him on Air Force One last week. Like he's a great guy, he's giving me $5 billion for the wall. Five billion dollars for the wall is not going to matter if we have tens of millions of people all across the country, we have 45 countries, Michael Wilde, where domestic abuse generally not recognized as crime. Forty-five countries. Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Qatar, Haiti, it goes on and on and on where women do not get the same rights as women here in the United States and other developed countries against men who abuse them. So does that mean all of them can apply under Kevin Yoder's, David Price's new idea about asylum? That is madness. MICHAEL WILDE, AUTHOR, "SAFE HAVEN IN AMERICA: BATTLES TO OPEN THE GOLDEN DOOR: Thank you Laura for having me on. Forgive my personal attire. I am running for Mayor in New Jersey and there was an event in my community and I came over here to join you. Look, I'm a law professor and adjunct at a law school. Political asylum is actually sacred law. And historically domestic violence has not yielded itself for a long time as the basis for political asylum. There's an old battle cry between persecution and prosecution. If you are being persecuted, you apply for asylum at our door. If you are in fear of prosecution or you have issues with your home country, it's not America's business, and we have economic challenges for our own citizenry. So domestic violence is less of a case. But gang violence is a different predicate for asylum. Because there you have countries that enable narcos and all the drug traffickers and they take no action. And Muslim countries throughout the world where women are being abused in relationships where the government codifies it under Sharia law and so forth. So the real question is should America's golden doors be slammed shut when there are people that are trying to protect themselves? INGRAHAM: Well I do know this. Dinesh (ph) -- I do I know we have Iraqi Christians, Syrian Christians, people throughout the Middle East who have been waiting for years. The classic case of ethnic cleansing, religious cleansing taking place in central African republics, Sudan and throughout the Middle East. And we've taken in -- I mean Dinesh you might know better -- I mean very few. And yet, just because you show up at our southern border and you know, NBC is there to cover your -- you know, the sad story, that suddenly America -- Americans are going to say okay, we're going to change our whole system, and we are going to throw open the door to every criminal victim in the world. And let me just read this, then I want you to react. Credible fear applications since 2007 -- 5,171 applications for credible fear asylum request. 2016 -- 91,786. An increase of 1675%. Do you think there is any fraud there, Dinesh? D'SOUZA: Well you know, I would like to step back for a moment and look at this a slightly different way. I mean the founders looked at America as a kind of moral community. A group of people who have a common set of values and a common destiny. Almost in some senses like an extended family. If someone came banging on your door and said listen, I am in fear because I'm being chased by a gang, I would submit that the ordinary person would be a little skeptical before giving them "asylum," before saying come in. You can move in because you have a credible fear. It's now become our responsibility. Most people would say wait a minute. I have a direct obligation to my own. As for others, coming in from the outside, I am sympathetic. But on the other hand, it's not necessarily my problem. At the very least, our democratic system has to go through the legislative process to decide what we do with such people. So ultimately the decision is with Congress, but this idea that somehow because the media dramatizes a hard-left story, that the idea that somehow the republicans have to run for cover, this is just in a sense political theater. WILDES: Laura, if I may -- INGRAHAM: Michael, we have a 311,000 applicant backlog as of January of this year. We have an overall backlog of 700,000 in general immigration applications in our immigration courts. Jeff Sessions said last month or the month before, we're trying to make progress, but just we can't keep up with it. At some point, it swamps the whole system, costing a huge amount of money, that most people watching the show tonight are like, I don't want to pay for this. Out of money here -- go ahead, you can close it out. WILDES: Thank you. Two points. First, we all agree, with the gentleman speaking, Congress should set the policy. We don't want the attorney general or the cops, the ICE agents to be executing on asylum law. That should be in the courts. And certainly they should have set up enough judges to adjudicate these cases, so you don't have children without representation and you don't have families being separated. The real issue here is a few weeks ago you said if the republicans aren't going to work with the democrats, then do nothing. Here they are beginning to work with each other, but you are not liking what they are doing. But guess what. Congress, it's their job. We all agree, all three of us, that they have to fix this. INGRAHAM: Why did they have no vote on this then, Mike? Why no vote? Why are they running out of town for their August recess? They did this sneak vote and they run out of town, no one comes. New called all these democrats today, none of them would come on the show, nor would Congressman Yoder. WILDES: I have always been disappointed in members of Congress. INGRAHAM: They are all afraid. They don't want to defend this -- WILDES: Yeah because they feel they're never going to get re-elected if they're strong on immigration. INGRAHAM: It's indefensible. WILDES: They feel they'll never get re-elected. INGRAHAM: It's indefensible. Yeah. They are running home to vacation or campaigns. They do not want to defend. We are out of time, guys. We are out of time. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: We'll do a longer segment, Michael Cohen by the way, is reportedly claiming tonight that Donald Trump knew of the infamous 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Russians ahead of time. But there may be one big problem with Cohen's allegations. Details next. INGRAHAM: Breaking tonight, Michael Cohen, President Trump's former attorney, claiming the president knew in advance about that Trump Tower meeting in June 2016 in which Russians were supposedly going to offer campaign dirt on Hillary Clinton, that according to CNN. Of course, in their breathless coverage, they seem to be ignoring the important nugget. Quote, to be clear, these sources said Cohen does not have evidence such as audio recordings to corroborate his claims. But he is willing to attest to his account. Here now to react, former U.S. Attorney and FOX News contributor Andrew McCarthy and "Wall Street Journal" columnist Kim Strassel. Welcome to both of you. Andy let's start with you here. Boy, it seems like Michael Cohen has gotten very talkative, a lot of stuff coming out over the last few days. What do you make of this latest claim? ANDREW MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I think he's had a change in posture over the last number of weeks. The retention of Lanny Davis certainly was an indicator of that. I think the big problem he will have, if this is his version of events is apparently he has talked about this before in prior testimony and prior interviews and evidently did not cough this up. I have always thought that if Mueller believes that Cohen was somehow the key to proving a collusion case against Trump, there is no way he lets fact case walk to the southern district of New York. I would be surprised if this links up to anything that is serious in the way of collusion, like an espionage conspiracy. But look, the Trump Tower meeting is bad. It's not collusion in the sense that they were, that they opened the investigation over it. But nobody - - no one's going to look good in this (ph). INGRAHAM: But Andy -- Andy hold on. Andy. Andy. As we talk about this, I think we forget Hillary Clinton paid for dirt that was assembled by the Russians in the form of the Steele dossier. She actually went further than meeting with someone. Her people paid for it. They got dirt and it ended up making it all the way through the U.S. government. So it's like big deal. MCCARTHY: Look Laura. No, I don't think it's bad if campaigns are turning to foreign governments for dirt. It's not collusion. It's not something that's impeachable. It's icky. But that's what this is. INGRAHAM: Kimberly, let's go to you on this. Rudy Giuliani was on CNN as this came out and he had a comment about the, well, the veracity of Mr. Cohen. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUDY GIULIANI, DONALD TRUMP's ATTORNEY: There's nobody I know that knows him that hasn't warned me that if his back us up against the wall, he will lie like crazy, because he's lied all his life. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Wow, a war of words. That seems like probably only still (ph) Cohen to release more information. KIMBERLEY STRASSEL, COLUMNIST, "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL": Well, just the kind of guy you want as a lawyer, right? INGRAHAM: Yeah. STRASSEL: But -- look I think the issue here is you've got to decide whether or not you believe CNN reporting. There has been a lot of breathless reporting out there that has turned out not to be correct. Then, even if it is correct, you have to decide if you believe Mr. Cohen now versus what as Andy said he might've said in the past. And whether or not there is any evidence, which apparently there is not in which case this may come down to a case of he said versus three other he says, saying the opposite. But I mean, what Andy said is true, it kind of looks icky, but the bigger point here is is there a crime? MCCARTHY: Right. STRASSEL: Because obviously was not a crime for Trump, Jr. to meet with this Russian national and find out what she had to talk about. It's also not a crime for Mr. Trump to have had prior knowledge of it either. Mr. Trump Sr., the president. The question, has he ever under oath that he didn't know? Was he in any situation where he might be viewed as having lied to federal law enforcement? I'm not sure that's the case. It's another potentially bad headline if it's true, but I'm not necessarily sure it's any legal jeopardy. INGRAHAM: Andy, the Veselnitskaya woman was there to push the Magnitsky Act. She was trying to get him to push Congress on that Magnitsky Act because of Russian adoptions. I mean the whole thing, it has nothing to do with Hillary. So it was a big scam, a big play and -- sounds like they were played in that meeting. Jared was bored, I think he got up and walked out or Manafort walked out. And so it was a big nothing. If this is where they are now, Andy, on this level -- and we're going to get to the Twitter issue in a moment -- what does this tell you about the state of the Mueller investigation? MCCARTHY: It seems to me the Mueller investigation is winding down to a conclusion. That investigation or that indictment that they brought recently against the 12 Russians who are actually intelligence officers, I don't think that's the kind of thing you should indict. Putting that aside, if you read the indictment and the logic of it, it kind of excludes the possibility that there could have been the kind of espionage conspiracy that everybody was so whipped up about that caused the investigation to start in the first place and lead to Mueller's appointment. So if it is winding down, I sure hope it's winding down, because it seems like it ought to. INGRAHAM: Yeah, a report out today that Mueller is looking through the president's tweets. MCCARTHY: I mean who thought he wasn't? Who thought he wasn't? I have been looking at them too. Kim, have you been looking at them? I've been looking at them -- STRASSEL: I've been looking at them too. INGRAHAM: I gotta play this for you guys. Preet Bharara, of course, former U.S. attorney southern district, Preet Bharara was on CNN today with Wolf Blitzer and they were all excited about the tweet story. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PREET BHARARA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY, SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK: The tweets he sends late at night and early in the morning, and often out of anger, I think go some way to showing what is state of mind was and to prove obstruction -- WOLF BLITZER, CNN HOST: And I'm quoting Giuliani now -- "If you're going to obstruct justice, you do it quietly and secretly, not out in public." What do you make of it? BHARARA: Well -- you know -- yes. What Rudy Giuliani says is the norm. This president likes to break norms and maybe he likes to violate the law in ways that break norms as well. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Kimberly? STRASSEL: The cheerleading here is extraordinary. But we have been witnessing this now for going on two years, and as I just said, headline after headline saying oh, definitely collusion. And then oh, obstruction of justice. And really it will only be a few weeks now. And look what Mueller is looking at this point. And nothing has come of it so far. Other than those indictments we've had related to charges that have nothing to do with either of those two central topics or anything that the press is actively pressing for. So I mean I agree with Andy. I would wish that if Mueller has decided that -- Trump is not a target, that he's not going down the road, that even if he is still wrapping up his probe, that he'd feel he had a duty to tell the country the president is no longer a target so people can start to move on. INGRAHAM: Andy, Turley (ph) said this is where they are looking over tweets, then this is like the dregs. Like this is -- I mean it's just ridiculous. I'm sorry. Now we are in tweets? And what -- you know, interviews? This is all public stuff. How are you obstructing an investigation with public comments? I don't -- I'm not following that. I guess it's possible, but I don't follow it. MCCARTHY: Well -- the whole thing is preposterous because with due respect to Preet, past state of mind or a criminal state of mind is irrelevant unless you've done something that can actually amount to obstruction. The president cannot obstruct justice by taking lawful actions that are within his constitutional prerogative, like pardoning people or firing Comey, or weighing in on whether somebody should be prosecuted which prosecutors across the country do that every day. INGRAHAM: Or complaining that Jeff Sessions didn't recuse himself. That's not obstructing justice. It's an opinion. It's craziness (ph). MCCARTHY: Yeah, I understand the style problem. Like they don't like the way Trump goes about things. But you still have to kind of prove the thing that's a crime, before you start worrying about what somebody's state of mind was. INGRAHAM: Yeah, but a former U.S. Attorney in New York like Preet Bharara should know better. I mean, I know he is on CNN, but you've got to know you can't say that on television. All right, fantastic conversation, guys. Thank you so much. I want everyone to stay there because we have some big breaking news out of North Korea we're going to bring you in just a matter of moments. INGRAHAM: Some breaking news out of North Korea. The White House saying a U.S. Air Force plane has now left North Korea containing the remains of fallen U.S. service members from the Korean War. Approximately 5,300 American soldiers' remains have not yet returned home from that war. It's an important, very positive first step as the U.S. and North Korea continue negotiations on denuclearization. And in other news, mad Maxine is at it again. She has moved on from calling for her acolytes to attack Trump officials wherever they are to now saying her opposition to all things Trump comes from a higher power. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS, (D) CALIFORNIA: We never dreamed we'd have someone in the White House who was so divisive, who could not tell the truth, and who was intent on not making America great again, but taking America down. And I know that I am here to do the work that I've been sent to do, and as the pastor said to me when I came in this morning, when God sends you to do something, you just do it. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Her own version of the crusades. This latest language comes after Judicial Watch filed an ethics complaint against her inciting violence against the Trump cabinet. Let's bring in that man behind the effort, Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch. Tom, I know you have been all over this call to declassify these FISA documents as well, but now you're on onto the Maxine story. Is this kind of a publicity stunt for Judicial Watch or is this a real thing? TOM FITTON, PRESIDENT, JUDICIAL WATCH: I saw her call on people to get a crowd together if you see a cabinet member of the Trump team, if they are at department stores or restaurants or a gas station, get a crowd together, push back and tell them they are not welcome. That is kind of inciting a riot. We filed this complaint. It's really easy to figure out whether or not comments like that reflect credibly on the House, which is the rule. And of course they won't do anything about it. There was another member said that maybe we should censure her. That has gone nowhere. INGRAHAM: How has that gone nowhere? Is it because she is kind of an icon to the left. She is protected in her own way and she is elderly, so you don't want to make her a bigger story, is that the reason no one wants to move on censuring her? She was, without saying it explicitly, she was saying get them. FITTON: I think it is fear-based decision-making by the Republican leadership. INGRAHAM: We want to hear the audio and then we want to hear what you have to say. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MAXINE WATERS, (D) CALIFORNIA: People do want to see us be stronger and more forceful and to confront them on these policies. If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get up and you create a crowd, and you push back on them. (APPLAUSE) WATERS: They have got to absolutely harass them until they decide that they are going to tell the president no, I can't hang with you. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I like how the NBC anchors just sit there, they are like mannequins. They don't say anything. They're like, wait a second, Congresswoman, are you -- there is no pushback by these people on these other networks. Imagine if a conservative said that about other people? FITTON: And harass public officials. But the House is going to let her use her position in the House to really attack people in inappropriate ways and incite violence. I think it is inciting violence and I would like the House to grapple with it. And as I said, it is fear-based decision-making by the house. INGRAHAM: You are being nice. They are wimps. They are wimpy. FITTON: They don't want to confront Maxine Waters. They don't want to confront Rod Rosenstein. INGRAHAM: They're afraid of this asylum ting. Now on this asylum issue, you have Congressman Yoder who threw Trump $5 billion for the wall and he wants to institutionalize DACA, codify DACA, and open up asylum to anyone who claims a criminal element in this country or her country, gang or domestic violence. How are we supposed to verify that? That was never asylum. It was racial or ethnic or religious or political persecution. And now it is if my country is too violent. FITTON: If you have a bad home life, you get asylum. INGRAHAM: But these are Republicans doing this because they are afraid of the emotional arguments. FITTON: The reason immigration is controversial here in Washington D.C. is because politicians want to do something none of the people want them to do. It's always going to be controversial. The voters have to be alerted and then they'll push back. INGRAHAM: Tom Fitton, thanks so much. And joining us now with more on this growing threat is former House oversight chairman Jason Chaffetz who has had many threats directed against him personally while he was in Congress. We are also joined by Democratic strategist and radio talk show host Garland Nixon. Great to see both of you. Jason, let's start with you. Things have gotten way out of hand. When we can't have a person walk into a restaurant wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat without being verbally assaulted, in some cases physically assaulted. If you support the president in a high school, you are called a racist, hater, xenophobe. So there is free speech but there is not free speech. And I think there are a lot of people who are just afraid. JASON CHAFFETZ, FORMER HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: And they should be. After the Gabby Giffords incident, after Steve Scalise was shot and almost killed, also other members that were targeted because they were Republicans, then you have House members on the Democratic side of the aisle basically, like Maxine Waters, inciting people to violence. This is the face of what the Democrats are putting up. It is the resistance movement. It's Antifa. It's targeted, it's aggressive, it's a scorched earth. And I have got to tell you, I was on the receiving end of lots of it. My family was subjected to things they should never be subjected to. Diane Black just in the last few days had somebody who was arrested for being aggressive against her. It's a very real threat and people are going to get hurt. INGRAHAM: Garland, this is one of the types of calls, and I know Democrats can hate stuff too. I'm not saying it's just Republicans. But since Trump, it has asked gotten worse. This is what Jason was subjected to. Let's listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I suggest you prepare for the battle mother -- and the apocalypse, because we're going to hunt your -- down, wrap a rope around your neck, and hang you from a lamppost, you worthless piece of dog -- (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That's just -- Garland, your reaction to the climate we are living in right now. GARLAND NIXON: I think it's terrible. But it really isn't new. In fact, I had some friends for years that worked for John Conyers, and I was aware of some very nasty calls that he got on a regular basis. So this isn't new. But I disagree with it. But let's not have a short memory. Let's not forget that President Trump during the election was inciting people -- at his rallies -- INGRAHAM: That one comment? One comment. That's all you have is that one punch him in the face comment. NIXON: I am not here to defend anyone who is inciting violence because I disagree with it, but let's not try to pretend there is one party who has ever pushed this. INGRAHAM: Have you seen a concerted effort on the part of conservative activists to attack people in public places? Someone is eating with his or her child or family, just having a quiet dinner, and shouting at them, screaming, demanding and prattling on about all these points. That's just not right. NIXON: Right, and I absolutely agree. INGRAHAM: That is all left-wing resistance dingbat stuff. NIXON: I absolutely disagree with that because I'm a person, I am a King- esque person so I believe in nonviolence. But let's not forget with Michele Bachmann and the lock and load, this is not new. There has been dangerous rhetoric for many, many years, and hopefully both parties and both sides will learn to calm this down. It doesn't seem like that is happening. But I oppose it, and I think the people both sides of the aisle should step up to the plate and oppose this. INGRAHAM: Jason? CHAFFETZ: Those are nice words, but I don't see Democrats who actually will call out Maxine Waters. If I do it as a Republican, then I will get accused of just being a partisan. But when she does that, I don't see a Democrat who ever stands up and says, you know what, that's wrong. And through all the campaign, with all the Trump and the rhetoric, it's a different scenario and someone is heckling the president, the candidate then, in front of tens of thousands of people. It may not be excusable in your mind, but I went to Trump rallies out there. I've been with the NRA rallies, and you don't see this kind of stuff. And I don't see the Democrats stepping up and taking some ownership and saying, you know what folks, you have got to tone it down. NIXON: President Trump said to beat people up and he would pay the bills, and he would come there -- INGRAHAM: That was one time. It wasn't smart to say. It wasn't smart, but it was someone causing a huge ruckus just to get on camera, and it got the better of him in the moment. This was not a concerted effort by a candidate. CHAFFETZ: I had Debra Messing of all people called me out on Twitter saying that we should take him down. What does that mean? You want to take some people down. It's unbelievable the number of celebrities that will also engage in taking them down, using language. Look at the cover of the latest magazines. Cutting off Donald Trump's head and then mocking it with comedy. This is really aggressive stuff. INGRAHAM: Again, we can say this morning, noon, and night, but if conservatives spoke like they do on a regular basis, physically approached people like they do on a regular basis, they will be holding candlelight vigils. The left melt on stuff like this, but they can do it. Maxine Waters can say these things with complete and utter impunity. And we are supposed to say oh, it's just Maxine. It's ridiculous. If you are a Democrat, it's like Maxine, you are out of line. You are out of line. The passion may be out there but you are out of line. You sound like a complete buffoon. NIXON: I don't think it's with impunity because right now you're exercising your right to go after her. And I am saying -- INGRAHAM: Her colleagues. She is the toast of the town. She is all over Democrat politics, Garland. She is everywhere. Wasn't she at the Oscars? She was at the Grammys. The woman is like the cause celebre in the Democratic Party. But we'll see if anything happens. But we hope nothing violent happens because that would be the real tragedy of all of this. Thank you so much to both of this. And coming up, the media on the left obsess over the so-called blue wave in the upcoming midterm, but they could be making a miscalculation of epic proportions. We will tell you why, up next. INGRAHAM: The left is very giddy about the prospect of a blue wave in November, and they are devouring any little tidbit of information that helps confirm that narrative. Case in point, a new NBC/Marist poll indicating sagging approval for President Trump in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. His critics couldn't get enough of it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Look at his approval rating in those states right now in these new NBC/Marist polls, 36 percent, 36 percent, 38 percent. That is bad news for Republicans. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump is now getting crushed in polling in Michigan and Wisconsin, which is part of why he offered a partial surrender today in his chair for with Europe. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president has no coattails. You used the right word, devastating. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are in trouble right in the president's base. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: But the Democrats could be in for a rude awakening come November. Joining us now, someone with a warning to those folks, Democratic pollster Mark Penn, along with Tom Bevan, the publisher of Real Clear Politics. Gentlemen, great to see you tonight. Mark, let's start with you. It's commonly thought that most pollsters were wrong before the last election. However, on the popular vote, they were pretty close, where they not, with Hillary Clinton, two percent, three percent. But they missed it in key states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, which is kind of the whole shooting match. But nevertheless, when I saw them going total frothy on the Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan deal, what do we think now? MARK PENN, FORMER CLINTON CAMPAIGN STRATEGIST: In 2016, the only person to action call the Electoral College right was Kellyanne Conway who was left off the set as she correctly predicted it. So my point about these pools is, what happened in the election was the analysis was bad. And what I see now is the questions are bad. They are usually slanted, anti-Trump questions, so they don't see the narrative here, which this is a divided country. It's close. I think there is a blue edge, but it is way too early to say there's a blue wave. And you have to be very careful because these polls very rarely put the Trump messaging and for testing. They don't ask about sanctuary cities. They don't ask about using tariff as a wedge. They ask easy, layup questions designed to prove points they are making. INGRAHAM: Tom, the questions are things like, do you support ripping babies out of the arms of mothers after they have crossed the border? No one is going to say yes, I favor that. But if you asked the question this way, should people be able to cross our border illegally and then get various benefits for having done so, and they will say what? No, we don't want that. What of this and where are we right now? TOM BEVAN, REAL CLEAR POLITICS CO-FOUNDER: I think Mark makes a great point in that it's the numbers, but it's also the framing. Let me just give you an example. The NBC News/"Wall Street Journal" poll that came out after the Helsinki summit and voters disapproved of that, and that was a headline. But the actual story, the real headline was that Trump's approval rating had reached an all-time high for his presidency, 45 percent. It had actually ticked up. And so the framing around that was all negative despite the fact there was good news for Trump in there. In the last week or two, the Democratic lead advantage in the generic ballot has ticked actually in favor of Republicans by about a point. But I also agree with Mark. The problem in 2016 was not the polls. It was the pundits. And you would've thought that if we, the journalists -- INGRAHAM: Don't look at me. BEVAN: Exactly -- had learned anything from 2016, it would be not to overinterpret, not to jump to conclusions. Again, there is still three months left before the election. And the other thing is that the economy is doing pretty well, and Trump gets good marks on the economy. Over 50 percent in most polls, job approval rating on the economy, and it's the number one issue for voters. INGRAHAM: That is still key. And by the way, everyone focuses, Mark, on the approval ratings if it's not over 50. It should be over 50. OK, fine. But he won the presidency with an approval rating of 36 percent. So could it be they are not wild about some of the stuff he does personally but they like the results he gets for the American worker? Could that be may be where we end up if he ends up having a positive effect in some of these races? PENN: His personal rating in the Harvard CAPS Harris poll we are just coming out with is 41. His approval on the economy and terrorism is around 55. And so, are voters going to focus on what's going on with the economy or on what he does personally? That has always been the big question on Trump. Clearly on Election Day they focused a lot more on the issues. We don't know what's going to happen this time. That's what makes it so fascinating. That's why pundits have to be careful. When you look at these high approval ratings on the core issues, that means the president has got to be doing something right. There is a storyline here that you've got to see, because if you miss it and you are a democrat, boy, you will miss the whole election again. INGRAHAM: Tom, I was talking to Hannity about this right before the election when we were both predicting Trump was going to win, and then right after the election. And we both said thank goodness we host radio shows, because we hear this stuff day after day after day. People say they are all conservatives listening. No, they are not. It's a really interesting cross-section of the country. I know liberals will laugh if they are watching this. Listen and then you will learn every now and then. Just listen. But people were saying we don't care about this Billy Bush tape. We don't care about Stormy Daniels. We don't care about -- they thought he might be kind of a bully but he is our bully. And we are tired of being bullied by the experts and the consultants and the corrupt class. He's going to fight for us. That's what they were telling us on the radio. And still to this day they are saying that. Now, maybe it won't add up to much in November. I don't know. But I can tell you, I do a daily focus group. And my listening audience, they are not listening to this. They don't care about this Mueller stuff. They don't care about any of this Cohen tape. They are like let's move on to the next topic. Let's talk about immigration. Tom, close it out. BEVAN: That's exactly right. Another interesting statistic. In 2016, Donald Trump got 90 percent of Republican votes on Election Day. His approval rating in that "Wall Street Journal" poll is 88 percent. On Election Day, he only got nine percent of Democrats, and nine percent of Democrats give him a favorable job approval rating. So we have been in a state of suspended political animation since the campaign. Despite all the controversy that surrounds the president, partisans on the other side have not budged. There's been some wiggle room by independents in the middle, and that might actually be what it comes down to on Election Day in November. INGRAHAM: Guys, thanks so much. And coming up, Demi Lovato's overdose exposing another tragic cold truth of celebrity life. We'll explain after this. INGRAHAM: The overdose of music superstar Demi Lovato is casting another harsh spotlight on the false allure and the dangers of celebrity. TMZ reporting tonight that Lovato recently surrounded herself with a new group of so- called friends. And on Tuesday night, they decided to go on a binger. The group apparently knew things could get bad with Lovato. TMZ saying they had an emergency medication called Narcan on hand. It is used to revive someone after overdosing. But this story follows an all-too-familiar pattern. Let's face it, incredibly talented people surrounding themselves with hangers on and enablers. And often this ends in tragedy. Joining is not analyze is counselor, drug counselor Sonya Veytsman. Sonya, we have had so many instances of people with immense talent who weren't found alive. From Belushi to of course Prince and the list goes on and on and on going back decades and decades. And now this. What is your take? SONYA VEYTSMAN, CELEBRITY DRUG COUNSELOR: There's a misconception that fame or wealth can serve as a buffer against vulnerability for a mental illness or addiction, and it doesn't. So psychologists have come up with a hypothesis called diathesis stress model which sort of explains why certain vulnerabilities emerge. And it talks about genetic predisposition combined with any sort of environmental stress, and when it reaches a combination, it reaches a certain threshold, then mental illness or addiction can emerge. And in this specific case of Demi, she from what I know has been pretty vocal about her father having history of substance abuse. INGRAHAM: But Sonya, I've got to ask about this. You counsel people who have drug problems. When you have a drug problem, and she has been very vocal about her own problems. She said -- talked about her problems going back to 19 years of age. I was going to an airport. I had a spray bottle filled with vodka. It was just 9:00 in the morning. She said she was throwing up in her car. She said she was about to get on a plane to L.A. to the sober living house she was staying at. And then she said I had all the help in the world but I didn't want it. Then the story of course about her friends out there partying with her with the Narcan. They know that she is vulnerable. And presumably they are not totally dumb people, though they sound pretty dumb. They know she could end up dead. And this is who she is hanging out with. I don't know, her family has tried to intervene unsuccessfully. But who are these friends? Who are they? VEYTSMAN: Part of managing drug addiction is certainly avoiding triggers. So that people that abuse and people that would be a bad influence are people that are also under the influence of some sort of substance and don't have good judgment. A big part of addiction is ambivalence. So the new models of treatment really try to address that, things like harm reduction and motivational interviewing, which looks to basically help people reconcile or address or resolve some of that ambivalence. So whenever someone is abusing drugs, typically there is a lot of conflict within them about continuing the drug use or whatever substance, and -- INGRAHAM: I've got to say I don't really understand. I am trying to follow what you are saying on that, but drug ambivalence? She has an addiction problem. Here's ambivalence. There shouldn't be any, OK. VEYTSMAN: It's not that simple. INGRAHAM: I know, nothing is that simple. But if you are an addict, the number one thing you have to do is what? This is your line of work. You have to not be with people who enable you, correct? VEYTSMAN: Right, but then there is something called secondary gain which talks about the benefit of using or doing something. So anyone that is abusing is actually gaining a benefit from it, and the benefit might be escape, it might be numbing the pain. That's probably the reason that striving them to do it. So sometimes that driver dependence outweighs their desire to change. And so that's why relapse is so common. INGRAHAM: So what are the chances of relapse? We are almost out of time. If you go sober, relapse, chances, what percentage? VEYTSMAN: They're very high. It's a very high likelihood. Counselors prepare are usually their patients for the likelihood of relapse. INGRAHAM: Sonya, thank you so much. Sad situation. We certainly wish her and her family the best. We'll be right back. INGRAHAM: I want to say thank you to this president, Donald Trump, getting some of our war dead at least back from the Korean War tonight. People thought it wasn't going to be possible. Well, it's happening, and it wouldn't have happened without his leadership. My surrogate dad Chuck Carlson served in the Korean War, and I know he's watching tonight. We want to always honor your troops. We think of you every day. Thank you for your service to this country. Remember, tweet me @IngrahamAngle. Shannon Bream and the "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" team is up next. Shannon, have a great show. 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We want to always honor our troops. We think of you every day. Thank you for your service to this country. Remember, tweet me, @IngrahamAngle. Shannon Bream and the FOX NEWS @ NIGHT team is up next. SHANNON BREAM, FOX NEWS CHANNEL HOST: Laura, thank you very much. We will and we begin with the Fox News alert. The president says we can expect terrific economic numbers tomorrow while rallying in a newly reopened steel plant hours ago. But his personal attorney has another reported bombshell tonight. Plus, the administration says it has reunited all eligible illegal immigrant families who have been separated at the border. But that is not enough for activists. Former acting director of ICE, Thomas Homan is here live with reaction including what's next for those who have been reunited. And later, Roseanne Barr does a first TV interview with Sean Hannity since she was fired for a racist tweet. She doesn't hold anything back. Stick around for highlights. Hello and welcome to FOX NEWS @ NIGHT, I'm Shannon Bream in Washington. Speaking at a newly reopened U.S. steel plant in Illinois, President Trump touted the administration's victory on economic growth, predicting tomorrow's numbers on GDP will be "terrific." Also terrific, Fox News White House correspondent, Kevin Corke is here live with details. Good to see you, Kevin. KEVIN CORKE, FOX NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Great to see you, Shannon. This is going to be such an exciting day. We're talking about watching the market, you're watching Twitter at the White House. Indeed the Fed is Washington weighs the latest GDP numbers for the second quarter tomorrow. It's going to be a big morning. So be sure to stick it right here at Fox News. Don't touch that dial. Now, as you've mentioned there, Shannon. Very strong speculation quite frankly across the board that the numbers will be fantastic. But just how good is still anybody's guest. The president certainly bullish on the pending reports, speaking to steelworkers today in Illinois. He made no secret about his optimism on the economy and for good reason. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: GDP numbers will be announce tomorrow sometime. I don't know what they are, but I think they're going to be terrific. Great things have happened. So whatever those numbers are, watch for them. Somebody actually predicted today, 5.3. I don't think that's going to happen. If it has the foreign front of it, we're happy. If it has like a three but it's a 3.8, 3.9, 3.7, we're OK. (END VIDEO CLIP) CORKE: All right. Now, that strong number maybe why the market shook up a huge Facebook selloff today. But we won't know just to get how good until the GDP numbers are released tomorrow. Meantime, the other big topic for the president today, trade. Mr. Trump is using his staff on debut today to calm tariff concerns among Iowa farmers, who collectively expert, believe it or not, a third of the soybeans that they produce. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Basically, we opened up Europe. And that's going to be a great thing for Europe and that's really going to be a great thing for us and it's going to be a really great thing for our farmers, because you have just gotten yourself one big market that really essentially, wouldn't you say Kim never existed because you've just had a problem. CORKE: Yes. You better believe the music to the ears of those concerned agribusiness producers, Shannon, without question. BREAM: All right. Kevin, what is the White House saying tonight about this reunify hundreds if not thousands of people have been separated at the border? CORKE: Yes. This is such an emotional story. And I don't mind telling you that the Homeland Security Department's internal watchdog said, listen, we're going to review the separation and the reunification of families which as Shannon points out is going tonight. Now, along with conditions and border protection facilities were migrant children who were here illegally, are held, in response to scores of congressional request to do so. That's the backdrop ahead of tonight's effort to reunify those who were brought here illegally or came here illegally on their own. Now, the government says it did reunite more than 1,800 children with parents and sponsors. Of course, that's by that judge imposed deadline. But it's a complicated process, Shannon, because there are layers of variables including determining who's actually related to whom, who is brought here by non-relatives and who among those seeking asylum could reasonably be placed temporarily, at least, with perhaps family members or others already here in the country and so on. I want to share one more thing tomorrow, coming up a very important meeting at the White House, on election security. The president will convene principles from the National Security Council. They're going to review methods and obviously going to try to make sure that we all understand that safety and security of our electoral system is paramount. That's going to be tomorrow at the White House. Should make for a very interesting afternoon. BREAM: I'm not sure it'd be something that you have bipartisan support, I would imagine. CORKE: You would think. BREAM: All right. Kevin, great to see you tonight. CORKE: Great to see you. BREAM: All right. Brand new tonight from President Trump's former personal attorney, Michael Cohen. He is reportedly claiming that then candidate Trump knew in advance the Russians wanted to offer dirt on his rival, Hillary Clinton. And that he approved that Trump Tower meeting between his son and a kremlin connected lawyer. Cohen reportedly says he's willing to assert that knowledge with special counsel Robert Mueller, although he says he doesn't have corroborating proof of it like an audiotape. President Trump's top current attorney, Rudy Giuliani is pushing back tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP'S LAWYER: I expected something like this from Comey's been lying all week. He's been for years. The question isn't what happened in the room. The question is, what did the president know as you said and Bernstein (ph) said, what did he know and when did he know it? So it would have to be people in the room with the president that can corroborate Cohen, which it that won't be because it didn't happen. And then it becomes a credibility time to ask between two or three witnesses who say one thing and Cohen who says another. (END VIDEO CLIP) BREAM: Cohen is already privately testified about that meeting with congressional investigators. And a source says that Cohen did not tell them at the time that candidate Trump had advance knowledge of the Trump Tower meeting. Meanwhile, the Trump organization CFO mentioned in the Cohen audiotapes, Allen Weisselberg, has been called to testify before a grand jury. Well, families who came to the U.S. illegally are being reunited, as Kevin was telling you. Democrats are still calling for the abolition of ICE, believing they have the political edge. Republicans are now running ads like this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We've got to critically re-examine ICE. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Starting by replacing ICE. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We should get rid of it, start over. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We should abolish ICE. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We need to abolish ICE. (END VIDEO CLIP) BREAM: Former acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Thomas Homan is here to break it down with us. Sir, great to have you with us tonight. I want to start with your reaction to those calls that you heard and you've been hearing for weeks. THOMAS HOMAN, FORMER ACTING DIRECTOR, IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT: it's ridiculous. I mean, you're talking these are congressional members that want to abolish a federal law enforcement agency, foreign enforcement laws they enacted. So rather than them doing their job and fixing the law or changing law, if they don't like what ICE does, they find us tempered to do away with a federal law enforcement agency. But let me be clear, abolishing ICE means open borders, because once you abolish ICE, if you get by the border patrol, you're home free. No one is looking for you. If you overstay your visa, you're home free. No one is looking for you. Even if you get arrested by the border patrol and get released to see a judge and that judge orders you're removed, you're home free. They're remove you. So abolishing ICE means open borders and that's what they want. That's what their dream is to have open borders. BREAM: So, do you think this is a cover for out and out saying that? HOMAN: Absolutely. I think they're showing truly who they are now, and I think, I hope Americans are paying attention because they finally have said what we've all thought, that they want open borders. They want uncontrolled borders. They whoever come in to come in. BREAM: All right. I want to talk through some of the numbers, because there was a court deadline today imposed on the administration to make sure that children were reunited, all those were eligible to be reunited with family members or other adults after coming through the border illegally. Here's some numbers we have tonight and the government says they've got it done. They say, 1,820, the total number of children who have been discharge from the office of refugee resettlement. There are over 1,400 children discharged by reunified, being reunified with parents in custody under the government's plan. Now, 711 children are still in custody where the adult associated with the child is either not eligible for reunification or not available for discharge at this time. Reacting to that, the ACLU says this, "We're thrilled for the families who are finally reunited but many more remain separated. The Trump administration is trying to sweep them under the rug by unilaterally picking and choosing who's eligible for reunification." Your response. HOMAN: It's not surprising the ACLU would say that. You know what's sweeping under the rug? ACLU sweeping under the rug 10,000 children in the custody of health and human services that were smuggled to the country by criminal organizations because their parents chose to separate themselves, put their children in the hands of smugglers in the trunk of a car in the back of a tractor-trailer and be smuggled to the United States. No one is talking about those 10,000, but they want to talk about the 2,500. By looking those numbers -- I have been the ICE director about three weeks, by looking those numbers, I think the government did what they should have done. They reunited every child that was eligible to be reunited. Now, I know for a fact some of these reunifications couldn't have because their parents had criminal records that didn't fall within the court's criteria. Some of these people had left the United States without their children, chose to leave the United States without their children because they basically got what they wanted. They got the child here to the United States to live with relatives, get an American education, take advantage of the social system and be the next DACA applicant in 10 years. So I think the government, HHS and ICE, they deserve some praise. They've worked very hard at meeting this arbitrary deadline set by a judge which was based on no data, no metrics. He just took a date and made it, not really looking at how these agencies operate and how they make sure -- how the parents -- one thing I want to mention, on this last population, the judge wanted to speed up the reunification, so he stopped doing DNA testing. Now, under that first smaller group under five, five to 10 percent of them do the DNA testing and found out they weren't the parents. Now, the DNA was -- then across the board in this because of the brush of ACLU and this judge. I've got to wonder how many children will release to people that aren't their parents and could be traffickers. I think it's going to come back and blow up in people's faces down the road. BREAM: Tough to know. Well, again, the government, the Department of Justice saying this tonight the expected total number of eligible potential class members on ICE custody seeking to be reunited who will not have been reunited by the end of the day is zero. They say the job is done. Critics say it has yet to begin. Thomas Homan, thank you for being with us tonight. HOMAN: Thank you for having me. BREAM: Good to see you. This is a Fox News alert. The Trump administration is lauding it as a significant first step in the ongoing negotiations with North Korea. Just a short while ago, a U.S. military C-17 cargo plane took off from Wonsan, North Korea containing the remains of U.S. service members killed nearly seven decades ago. These remains of soldiers killed during the Korean War have been a source of contention for successive presidential administrations and the now tonight the breaking news that they are coming home. Bringing closure for hundreds of anxious American families. This statement from secretary of state Mike Pompeo. "Chairmen Kim Jong-un is fulfilling part of the commitment he made to the president to return our fallen American service members. We are encouraged by North Korea's actions and the momentum for positive change." Our senior foreign affairs correspondent, Greg Palkot has more on this important step. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) GREG PALKOT, FOX NEWS SENIOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: A U.S. official telling Fox News the remains of 55 U.S. service members missing in North Korea since the Korean War transferred Friday at the 65th anniversary of the armistice that ended that fighting. Remains will be flown via U.S. military aircraft from North Korea to a U.S. base in the south in wooden cases which have been handed over to the north of the DMZ last month. But the catalog and then transfer to a center in Hawaii for final DNA identification and then returned to the families. Return of the remains was a major commitment by North Korean leader Kim Jong-un at that summit with President Trump last month in Singapore. Some 5,300 U.S. service members are still missing in the North, efforts to return them halted in 2005. This could be another confidence building measure by North Korea towards denuclearization. Earlier this week, analysts said satellite photos indicated that North Korea was dismantling facilities at a missile test site. This comes after the latest trip by Secretary of State Pompeo to North Korea, as pressure increases on the Trump administration to deliver the goods from that summit. Shannon. BREAM: Greg Palkot, thank you very much. Meanwhile, back here at home, Congressman Jim Jordan, Republican from Ohio, says he wants to be the next speaker of the house. His announcement comes shortly after introducing articles of impeachment against the deputy attorney general, a move house Speaker Paul Ryan opposes. Trace Gallagher is here to tell us about Jordan's challenge and his chances of succeeding. Break it down for us. Good evening, Trace. TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Good evening, Shannon. By sending a letter to House Republicans early today, Ohio congressman, Jim Jordan officially became the first Republican to challenge House majority leader, Kevin McCarthy to become the next speaker of the house. The current speaker, Paul Ryan, has already endorsed McCarthy, which did not appear to bother Congressman Jordan, who wrote in part "Should the American people entrust us with the majority again, and the 116th congress, I plan to run for speaker of the house to bring real change to the House of Representatives." Jordan's effort of succeeding Paul Ryan comes amid the most tumultuous time in his 12 year congressional career. Former wrestlers at Ohio State say when Jordan was a coach there back in the 90's, he was aware of but failed to respond to allegations of sexual misconduct by a team doctor. Jordan denies the allegations. Ohio State is now reviewing the doctor's conduct and investigators have interviewed Congressman Jordan. If the GOP retains control after the midterms, most House Republicans do not believe Jordan has the necessary 218 votes needed to become the next speaker. But he may have enough votes to block anyone else from becoming speaker. Meantime, the House oversight and government reform committee led by Jim Jordan and Congressman Mark Meadows moved to file articles of impeachment against Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Accusing him of obstructing their demands for documents connected to Robert Mueller's investigation and other FBI records. Here's what Jordan told Laura Ingraham. Watch it. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. JIM JORDAN (R), OHIO: We are tired of the justice department giving us the finger and not giving us the information we're entitled to do to do our constitutional duty. More portly, the American people are sick of it and that's why we filed the resolution. (END VIDEO CLIP) GALLAGHER: But Speaker Paul Ryan put himself at odds with hard-liners in his party by firmly rejecting the effort to impeach Rosenstein. Speaker Ryan says the Department of Justice was largely complying with demands for documents. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. PAUL RYAN (R-WI), SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES: I don't think we should be cavalier with this process or with this term. Number one. Number two, I don't think that this rises the level of high crimes and misdemeanors. So I have really high standard. (END VIDEO CLIP) GALLAGHER: Though experts say Ryan won't be able to hold off House conservatives forever. And to bring our story full circle, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi also weighed in, saying the push to impeach the Deputy Attorney General is in part to divert attention from Jim Jordan's entanglements with the sex abuse case at Ohio State. Shannon? BREAM: That does wrap it all up. Trace, thank you very much. Well, Roseanne Barr holding nothing back tonight during a wide-ranging interview with Sean Hannity. Her first TV interview since ABC fired her over a racist wheat aimed at President Obama's close friend and advisor, Valerie Jarrett. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROSEANNE BARR, AMERICAN ACTRESS: I have always been against the abuse of power towards all marginalized groups. But now I feel like both the left and right have marginalized the middle. And it's just too crazy. America is a place where I, a loud mouth, old gorgeous Jewish woman, comedian, I'm allowed freedom of speech. It cost me everything. Now I wish I had worded it better. But I'm not going to let them tell me what I meant. And that's what makes me so mad. Valerie, let's discuss this. Don't assume that you know what I meant. Because I think you don't know what I meant and I would like to make it clear to you what I did meant -- mean. And I would like to find a way past all that to really discuss the issue at hand and to try to find common ground between us. I'm so sorry that you thought I was racist that and you thought that my tweet was racist. And for that, I apologize. I never meant to hurt anybody. Or say anything negative about an entire race of people. (END VIDEO CLIP) BREAM: Joining me now, Fox News politics editor and editor of "THE HALFTIME REPORT," Chris Stirewalt. CHRIS STIREWALT, FOX NEWS POLITICS EDITOR: Howdy, ma'am. BREAM: Now listen, I remember you were a voice of caution about Roseanne, when people were really feeling encouraged that her show as may be giving them a voice or giving them recognition, as people who had supported the President, who had voted for him. And wanted to see that portrayed in Middle America in her show. But you cautioned people. STIREWALT: Well, I cautioned people generally when it comes to politics. You don't need to ride every unicorn that comes running down the street. Some of them are -- did you see the story about the zoo in Egypt where they just took a donkey and painted black stripes on it? BREAM: It's like what happens when it rains? They will find out. STIREWALT: Some of the zebras are just donkeys and it's OK. And you don't need to embrace everything. It was unusual to see a president of the United States embrace. Look, her whole stick, her whole routine, she made her famous, she made her celebrity by being shocking, by being appalling, by being nasty. That was her thing. And then it's the -- it's the frog and the scorpion. You cannot blame me for being who I am, right? BREAM: Yes. STIREWALT: Why did the scorpion's sting the frog? He said because it's my nature. Her nature is to offend. Her nature is to be shocking. That is how she got where she is. People shouldn't expect that she was going to be any different just because she had a presidential tweet behind her. BREAM: OK. Now, expectations, did you think that Congressman Jim Jordan was going to announce that if they keep the House this fall, and it was a very lengthy letter that he wrote about all the things they need to work on and things they need to do, that he potentially would like to run for speaker. From his letter, he says this, President Trump has taken bold action on behalf of the American people. Congress has not held up its end of the deal, but we can change that. It's time to do what we said. STIREWALT: Well, bully. I mean, the thing -- BREAM: Do you think Congress is getting stuff done? STIREWALT: No. But every music man that comes down the path says, but I'm going to be the one and we're going to do. When Kevin McCarthy was running and then he had to drop out then Paul -- actually Paul Ryan did, Paul Ryan's credit was essentially -- BREAM: Did not really want to be the speaker. STIREWALT: Yes. He was dragooned, dragged by the lower into the speaker's chair because he was the only one who could build consensus across the Caucus. What Jim Jordan and -- and it wasn't even a whole Freedom Caucus. It was 11 members of the Freedom Caucus that filed today, these articles of impeachment against Rod Rosenstein over something that by the way plenty of Republicans. And I don't know, maybe even the majority of Republics in Congress think that they are off-base. That they think they're doing -- BREAM: The Speaker is not supporting it. STIREWALT: Well, not only is the Speaker not supporting it but the findings of the Senate Intelligence Committee and many others, Trey Gowdy and many others have said that the whole tree they're barking up, they say, this is the wrong tree (INAUDIBLE) you are going to the wrong place on this. So there are lot of credible voices who are opposed to what they're seeking as it relates to Rosenstein. To launch the impeachment proceeding in what looks like -- now, I give them the benefit of the doubt. Jim Jordan may not -- this may have been beyond his control that the whole time that this is just pure coincidence but to launch the impeachment proceeding on the same day that you announce your candidacy for speaker taints both in the eyes of many members. I'm more than willing to believe that it's coincidental. But it would taint both in the eyes of many members because it says are you insincere about -- is it in service of this or that or is that in service of this? And it draws further questions about is it a stunt to get attention or is it something you really sincerely feel? Because if you really sincerely feels it, the smarter political course of action would be to not tingle that up with his own speaker run. Trust me, Jim Jordan's chances of being speaker or not speak will not go up or down whether he waits between now in the August recess to file his candidacy. BREAM: They got to hold on the majority or they're not going to be talking about any of them. Him or McCarthy or anyone else being and that's the work ahead. And many Republicans today reacting to this are saying, we don't even want to weigh in the speaker fight, we better try to hold on to the House. So they know they have a big job ahead of them on that. STIREWALT: This is why we can't have nice things. BREAM: We have a couple nice things. And I'm going to start looking for unicorns to ride around down the street too. STIREWALT: Paint your donkey. Paint your donkey. BREAM: Thank you, Chris. STIREWALT: You bet. BREAM: All right. From his top diplomat to his vice president to the President himself, tough talk for Turkey. Sanctions are coming if they do not release an American pastor. Turkey is accusing him of being a spy. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: To President Erdogan and the Turkish government, I have a message on behalf of the President of the United States of America. Release Pastor Andrew Brunson now or be prepared to face the consequences. (END VIDEO CLIP) BREAM: And a charge that The New York Times and associated press are allegedly targeting Brett Kavanaugh's wife's work e-mails, searching for potentially controversial information about the Supreme Court nominee. Stick around. BREAM: Te fight to confirm President Trump's Supreme Court nominee is getting personal. And if you hear some news organizations are trying to dig up dirt on Judge Kavanaugh's wife. Let's debate it with tonight's panel. Fox News Contributor, Jessica Tarlov and the national spokesperson for the Republican National Committee, Kayleigh McEnany. Welcome to you both, ladies. JESSICA TARLOV, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Thank you, Shannon. KAYLEIGH MCENANY, POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Thanks for having us. BREAM: OK. So let's talk a little about what we're talking about here. The A.P. and The New York Times have asked for e-mails from a public position that Judge Brett Kavanaugh's wife held in local government in Maryland. A.P. says the standard procedure. We always like to look and do our research on people. But the New York Times wanted to search for e- mails for very specific words. We want to roll through some of those. Of course they include her husband's name, the word Judge. That kind of thing. But also things like abortion, gun, day, Federalist. Democrat Republican, Jessica, what does this say to you if anything? TARLOV: It says to me that they're interested in seeing what kind of belief she holds and then maybe getting more glimpse into what beliefs her husband may hold. I have, you know, I have not vetted a Supreme Court justice myself. They are saying this is standard procedure. I do believe that and I would imagine that they did the same for Neil Gorsuch, Elena Kagan, Sotomayor, anyone who has been -- Justice Roberts (INAUDIBLE) et cetera. Anyone who had been confirmed in recent memory here. I imagine that's standard operating procedure. BREAM: I mean, give me what you think. I mean, going after a spouse's e- mails, and these are obviously very specific topics they're looking at. MCENANY: Sure. I have a very hard time believing The New York Times or the A.P. did this with Justice Kagan or Sotomayor. That aside, you're right, they are looking very specific things and what's so interesting in that list that you scroll through, you see abortion, you see gay, you see there were guns. These are all words with a political connotation. Noticeably absent from that list was the word constitution. And that is what you should be looking at when you're trying -- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Federalist is there. MCENANY: Federalist because they are in interested in the Federalist society that put them on the list. So this is all politically charged. When Republicans talk about this, we talk about the constitution. When Democrats do, they talk about politics. BREAM: Well, speaking to political issue, I mean, Justice Kagan has spoken to this. This is what she's quoted as saying in a comment to University of Chicago students, she said, that's an unfortunate thing because it makes the world think we are sort of junior varsity politicians. I think that's not the way we think of ourselves. Even given the fact that we disagree and that we disagree in ways that you can predict based on what kind of a president appointed us. I mean, Jessica, it seems like we're long past the days and when we think about Justice Kennedy, you know, soon to retire, that he was approved, I think it was 97 or 98 to nothing. I mean, there was no opposition. And now there seems to be such a partisan vote and really the court being turned into something I don't think the founders intended. TARLOV: No, absolutely not. I had the pleasure of hearing Ruth Bader Ginsburg speak actually recently and she made a similar point about it that obviously everyone ends up voting a certain way that we have the swing voters. But the court is supposed to be a place where you come together to honor the constitution and however you interpret it. That falls in different ways depending on -- I guess where you fall personally. But that is the goal there and we know how close Ruth Bader Ginsburg was with Justice Scalia. A wonderful tail from the Supreme court here. But to Elena Kagan's point, well, I would agree with that, they also went through all of her Obama era documents. That something that went on that Republicans were completely fine with and now there is resistance to going through Judge Kavanaugh's Bush-era documents. So there's a little bit of a double standard here. I think Democrats are only asking for what Republicans have asked for in the past especially considering what happened with Merrick Garland. I don't think that's unfair. BREAM: Well, Kayleigh, what I'm hearing from folks who are dealing with these document requests is that, you know, Justice Kagan head no, you know, trail from the bench. She was never a judge. And so there was little to go through with her. She was a solicitor general under the Obama administration. So there was a little bit of a trail there. Obviously You have to turn over whatever's relevant. But there's a much bigger document pool apparently up to a million pages on Judge Kavanaugh. Do they need to see everything? Is it fair to say -- listen, they need to see everything there is on him before they can vote or is it a delay tactic? MCENANY: I think it's a delay tactic. As you point out, this judge, Judge Kavanaugh has a long history of judicial opinion. That is what matters. Not his personal opinion, not his e-mails, but the long history of judicial opinion. And what's interesting, Shannon, the same Democrats requesting these documents are the same Democrats who are in some cases refusing to meet with Judge Kavanaugh. If you're interested in truly getting to know this nominee, you want to sit down and you want to have a face-to-face. And I want to quickly point out, interesting I have a lot of respect for Justice Kagan for what she said. She talked about the politicization of the nomination process. You see Yale liberal law professors like Akhil Amar praising this nominee, Judge Kavanaugh. So you see this disconnect between the academic left who is praising this nominee. And the political left who is engaging in scare tactics. Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and others. BREAM: All right. Well, we will not solve this tonight. But we thank you both, Jessica and Kayleigh for weighing in. Good to see you both. All right, will the tough talk and threats to punish Turkey get U.S. Pastor Andrew Brunson home? That story is up next. Plus, no special effects here. This is the real thing, and it happened in China. Details on this, coming up in "WHERE IN THE WORLD", next. BREAM: The Trump administration getting tough on a new target tonight, hoping new threats will bring an American home. Correspondent Ellison Barber joins us now with the latest push to free Pastor Andrew Brunson. This has been going on a long time. ELLISON BARBER, FOX NEWS CHANNEL CORRESPONDENT: Yet, has lots of whole different moving parts of this. Last week, a bipartisan group of senators introduced legislation that would restrict international loans to Turkey until they end the "unjust detention of U.S. citizens," one of those being Pastor Andrew Brunson. But the White House might not be waiting on Capitol Hill. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: To President Erdogan and the Turkish government, I have a message. BARBER: Vice President Mike Pence closed out a three-day conference on religious freedom with a warning to a NATO ally. PENCE: Release Pastor Andrew Brunson now or be prepared to face the consequences. If Turkey does not take immediate action to free this innocent man of faith and send him home to America, the United States will impose significant sanctions on Turkey. BARBER: President Trump reiterating that on Twitter, adding that Brunson is suffering greatly. Turkey seemed to respond to the president's tweet with a tweet of their own about an hour later. The Turkish minister of foreign affairs tweeted in English: "No one dictates Turkey. We will never tolerate threats from anybody. Rule of law is for everyone. No exceptions." Turkey's authorities arrested Pastor Brunson in 2016; he's facing charges related to terrorism and espionage. Last week, Brunson was released from prison and placed on house arrest in Turkey. Turkish officials told Fox News they moved Brunson for health reasons. (END VIDEOTAPE) BARBER: The ultimatum coming from the president and vice president is fairly clear but the details are not. We don't have that time frame for subsequent steps and deadline for when Turkey needs to act. Also unclear right now exactly how the president would move forward here, whether it would be a unilateral action or something with lawmakers on Capitol Hill. But Shannon, when they moved Pastor Brunson to house arrest, the administration did say they saw that as a positive step, but just not enough. BREAM: Well, also today, they're speaking about this issue of Iran. What can you tell us about that? BARBER: Right. Yes, so the State Department issued a statement of concern today. That's what they called it at least, about Iran and religious freedoms. But that also is not all that happened with Iran. Today, a top Iranian general says that he's ready if President Trump follows through on the warnings in that controversial all caps tweet he sent a few days ago to the Iranian president. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) QASSEM SOLEIMANI, IRANIAN GENERAL (through translator): You shouldn't insult the Iranian nation. You shouldn't insult our president. You must be careful about what you're talking about. Go ask your predecessors and learn from their experience. (END VIDEO CLIP) BARBER: In that tweet from a few days, President Trump said if President Hassan Rouhani threaten the U.S. again, he would suffer consequences the likes of which few have suffered before. BREAM: That, hopefully, tamps down and they could find a peaceful solution to their differences, which our amends. Thank you, Ellison. All right, time now for "WHERE IN THE WORLD." Questions mounting following the collapse of a dam in Laos that killed at least 27 people and left thousands stranded. The company that constructed the dam say they warned Laotian officials of possible danger. That's upwards of 25,000 people are being evacuated. The one-party state is under fire for its delayed response. These are not Hollywood special effects. Check it out. Chinese state television capturing a sandstorm, it described as apocalyptic. Sweeping through a city in Northwest China. That's a cloud of dust more than 100 feet high took only a few minutes to engulf the city. Well, tensions are made high in Israel as Gaza fired nine projectiles towards Israel -- most of them falling in open areas near the border fence. One project was intercepted by an iron domed anti-missile battery. Fighting ramped up between Israel and Gaza, Wednesday evening after an Israel officer was wounded by Palestinian snipers at the border. 150 Palestinians have been killed in months of weekly clashes. Also, today, an Israeli was killed near Jerusalem after being stabbed by a teenage terrorist; two other Israelis were wounded. And an update on that sunken Russian warship we told you about, allegedly loaded with gold off the South Korea. Well, the South Korean company the claims to have discovered it is now walking back its jaw-dropping claims there could be up to $130 billion worth of gold on board. The company now apologizing for relying on unverified reports, adding that it has not verified the existence of any treasure. The company is MPW, and under official investigation for possible market manipulation. Well, the House passes a National Defense Authorization Act designed to send a very strong message to Russia and China. What does it mean for our military and President Trump's relationship with Vladimir Putin? Congressman Chris Stewart of Utah is here; he has the answers and more when we return. BREAM: Before leaving for the August recess, the House sending up to the Senate a pay raise for our military heroes, and getting tough on Russia and China, even Democrats are voting for it and praising it. National Security Correspondent Jennifer Griffin is here to break down what's in it. Jennifer. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) JENNIFER GRIFFIN, FOX NEWS CHANNEL NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Shannon, one of the last bills the House voted on before leaving town for the August recess was a $716 billion defense authorization. What's interesting about the bill is both Republicans and Democrats agree the provisions targeting Russia and China are large enough to send a strong message that the U.S. Military means business. REP. MAC THORNBERRY (R), TEXAS: There are literally dozens of provisions that deal with Russia, whether it's increasing the credibility of our nuclear deterrent which Russia has openly threatened to use in a conventional war. But we also strengthen, for example, the global engagement center at the State Department, which is charged with pushing back against the propaganda that's coming from Russia. GRIFFIN: Some of the provisions may tie the hands of the president in the wake of the Helsinki summit. The top Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, Adam Smith, praise the bill for "pushing back against President Putin's ongoing campaign to undermine U.S. alliances, partnerships, and Democratic values around the world." The bill prohibits military to military cooperation with Russia to include Syria, prohibits U.S. government recognition of the absorption of Crimea into the Russian federation, and increases the number of U.S. troops in Europe to reassure U.S. partners and allies and deter Russian aggression. It authorizes a 2.6 percent pay raise for service members, the largest increase in nine years. THORNBERRY: This bill takes significant steps to rebuilding the military. We buy more planes and ships and land vehicles but we put a lot more money into readiness, into training, into spare parts, repairs. GRIFFIN: It upgrades the nuclear triad, buys a new aircraft carrier, two new Virginia class subs, $65 million for low yield submarine launched ballistic missiles, and 77 new fifth-generation stealth F-35 aircraft -- all needed to counter Russia. There is language in the bill prohibiting the federal from doing business with China's Huawei and state telecom, ZTE, which the president lifted sanctions on as part of his trade negotiations, but which national security officials accused of spying on the U.S. Shannon? (END VIDEOTAPE) BREAM: Jennifer Griffin, from the Pentagon, thank you very much. Republican Congressman from Utah Chris Stewart voted for the bill today and helped to work out the differences between the House and Senate versions. He sits on the House Intel Committee and joins us now live. Great to have you with us, congressman. REP. CHRIS STEWART (R), UTAH: Good evening. BREAM: What do you make -- so much of what I've read about this bill talks about all of the things that are plugged into it in both versions that are really a push back against Russia and China. What's in there and why is that important right now? STEWART: Well, and there are so many good things in it. I think you know I was a former Air Force pilot, I flew combat rescue helicopters and the B- 1. When I was flying, we had something like 157 fighter squadrons. We have 58 today. When I was in the military, we had something like 350,000, almost 330,000 troops in all of Europe. We've got about 35,000 today. And Vladimir Putin looks at that and he just laughs. It's not a serious deterrent to him. It just simply isn't. The European defense initiative that's part of the bill is a very, very important part of saying to Russia in a serious way, we know what your intentions are. Crimea, the eastern part of Ukraine, his threats towards other former Warsaw pact countries. And it says to him, we're going to take you seriously and you need to take us seriously -- and China as well. Again, if you think national defense matters and it is, after all, the fundamental responsibility of federal government, this was a good bill. BREAM: How concerned are you about the issue of cyber-attacks from those two potentially bad actors and others? STEWART: Yes. Well, look, you can't look at the world around us and not be concerned about cyber. And a lot of people think, well, you know, if we have a cyber-attack, that means I don't get to go shopping at Amazon for a few hours. Oh, my gosh, it would be so much worse than that. The potential for it to be disruptive -- I mean, imagine losing our entire electrical grid for weeks. You know, your refrigerator doesn't work, you can't pump gas in your car, you're probably not going to work. Hospitals, emergency generators have run out of fuel. It would be an enormously impactful thing for our country. And it's absolutely possible from some of those nations that you mentioned and Iran and North Korea, to name just a few others. Cyber is as many have indicated, it is the modern warfare and we can't ignore the serious implications of it. BREAM: Yes, and how much, as somebody who served there yourself, how much does this mean to the men and women of our military and their families as well? Because, you know, we hear these stories about them not being able to afford basic necessities and school issues and things for their kids that none of us in America would ever think that's acceptable that these folks who are giving voluntarily so much of their own lives should have to have those kinds of economic worries. STEWART: No doubt about it. And look, these are the best young men and women that our nation produces all serving the military. And far too often, Shannon, over the previous administration, they held hostage the defense spending. There were many times it wasn't -- you know, it wasn't reauthorized in September the way it should have been. And it became a political ping-pong. And these people were used as pawns in that. In fact, I think us passing the defense authorization bill today, I think it's the earliest we've done it in a year -- in something like 20 or 25 years. And that's an important message to send to our military, to these young men and women. We know you're there. We care about you. We want to pay you adequately. We don't want to use U.S. political pawns. I think they're looking at that; they're not foolish. They understand what's happening in Congress. They can see. And I think they look at this today and I'm sure they're grateful for it. BREAM: Well, the house vote, I believe, if I've got this right 359-54. That means you had a lot of bipartisan support for getting this done. Does it bode well for other major things getting done after the recess? STEWART: Well, let us hope so. I mean, at least we can agree on national defense. But once again, in the past, we haven't had such a bipartisan vote on this, and it reflects really months of intense effort. And mentioning something quickly, not just Russia but China, too -- something I worked on very intently, that is China can't destroy us unless we help them. But we have been helping them. They've been stealing our technology. But many times, we've been giving them technology. And there are elements in this bill that were trying to get from the Intelligence Committee very intently to make it much, much harder for China to come in and take this technology or for us to give it to them. BREAM: Yes, and we've heard a lot of bipartisan support on that point. Congressman, thank you for your service in the service and now on Capitol Hill as well. Good to see you tonight. STEWART: Thank you. You're kind. BREAM: Well, the devastation of the biggest California wildfire is allegedly the result of one man. He's under arrest tonight. Plus, the Ninth Circuit strikes down school prayer? Surprising. Those stories and more in our "WESTERN ROUNDUP." BREAM: More answers tonight on what may have caused multiple wildfires in California. That story tops tonight's "WESTERN ROUNDUP." California officials arresting a 32-year-old man in connection with causing several wildfires in Riverside County, California. Brandon McGlover has been charged with five counts of arson. One of the fires he's accused of starting is the Cranston fire which has spanned nearly 5,000 acres and leveled homes. He's also suspected of setting multiple fires in Southwest Riverside County. Federal judge in Oregon ruling transgender students have a right to the bathroom of their choice. The judge dismissing claims by parents that some male students experienced embarrassment and anxiety when using restrooms alongside members of the opposite sex. In his ruling, Judge Marco Hernandez enforcing transgender students to use facilities inconsistent with their gender identity would cause them harm. City officials of Portland starting to clean up what they're calling a disgusting "occupy ICE camp." It's actually been labelled a bio-hazard. Police cleared the protesters Wednesday. City officials say they will help pick up the tab for cleanup. And a Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling a California school district cannot include prayers or Christian scripture during meetings. The three- judge panel upholding a 2016 injection against the religious practices which the court said dated back to 2010. The Chino Valley Unified School District board had argued the practice was allowed due to an exception for traditional prayer at the start of legislatures, Congress, and town hall meetings. Well, stay with us. Our "MIDNIGHT HERO" is next. BREAM: Tonight's "MIDNIGHT HERO", Deborah Snyder served in the army for 22 years. And as a civilian, she continues to serve. She started Operation Renewed Hope foundation to end homelessness among veterans and their families. She has helped more than 700 veterans of all ages around Washington, D.C. I've seen her in action. Her group build homes, provides medical benefits, and employment help with a 90 percent success rate. She and all the folks she's serving, they're all heroes. Well, most-watched, most trusted, most grateful you spent the evening with us. Good night from Washington, I'm Shannon Bream. Load-Date: July 27, 2018 End of Document Articles of Impeachment Introduced Against Deputy A.G Rod Rosenstein; Media's Constant State of Crisis Over Trump; President Trump's Surging Poll Numbers; President Trump's Attorney, Rudy Giuliani Explains about the Trump-Cohen Tape Recording that's been Interpreted Differently by Critics, that the President Did Say Check and Not Cash to Cohen; The Former Director of CIA, John Brennan Reacted over President Trump Stripping His Security Clearance; Brennan Has Called the President All Sorts of Names Because He Hates Trump the Most; "The View's" Co-Hosts, Joy Behar and Meghan McCain Got into a Heated Debate over Socialism Platform of the Democrats Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST July 25, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7757 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Catherine Herridge, Sebastian Gorka, Daniel Hoffman, Jesse Watters, Jessica Tarlov Guests: Joe diGenova, Rudy Giuliani Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: I'm dying. I'm -- so you just made my open really, really hard. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST, TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT: I'm sorry. I couldn't help it. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: I'm just -- I'm watching that segment and just laughing. All right. Tucker, great show. CARLSON: He's repulsive. Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: We'll talk soon. All right. Welcome to |HANNITY. This hour is chockfull of breaking news, incredible developments tonight. We'll bring it all to you. Articles of impeachment have now been filed against the Deputy A.G. Rod Rosenstein. Now, the days of Rosenstein's obstruction may soon be coming to an end. We will have full coverage of this breaking news throughout the hour. And first, another day, another scandalous, oh, the sky is falling. The earth is shattered. Days and days of breathless, peddling of lies by the mainstream media. We've got the best montage I think we've ever put together. This time, America's professional Trump haters are spinning in circles over a totally insignificant audio recording between Michael Cohen and Donald Trump. It's clearly the media's anti-Trump meltdown du jour, but in moments, we'll show you how this tape is much ado about nothing. Plus, we're going to take you on a very frightening journey tonight, you got a buckle up, you may want to warn the kids, through some of the worst examples of the destroy Trump media moving daily, crisis to crisis to crisis. We've got the tape, it's amazing. And we'll do something you will not see in the mainstream media. We have amazing great news tonight on the economy and other news on the foreign policy front with the Trump administration. By the way, including strong new poll numbers, so much for all the media beat downs. And, of course, we are expecting Friday, the quarterly, second quarter GDP numbers, it should make America proud. We're hoping for a major breakthrough, and we had one breakthrough today on the one of the biggest economic partners we have -- oh, there's no trade war. They said this guy was falling there too. Free and fair trade on the horizon, huge concessions the president got today as it relates to the European Union and significant diplomatic progress under the leadership of the Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Wow, what a beat- down he gave senators today, and we'll show you how he helped actually educate Democrats on the president's strong, sound, yes, tough on Russia policy. All right. We have a lot of real news to get to and tonight's breaking news full hour opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. We'll start with the one secret audio recording heard round the newsrooms all around the country, conspiracy TV MSNBC and CNN and all the likes of them. Private conversation recorded between Michael Cohen and his client Donald Trump. Last night, it was released by Cohen's attorney, Lanny Davis. In spite of all the breathlessness in the reporting, the tape is A, ambiguous, kind of hard to hear, reveals no groundbreaking new information. Let's just play it for you ourselves. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) MICHAEL COHEN, FORMER TRUMP LAWYER: I need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend David, you know, so that -- I'm going to do that right away. I've actually come up and I've spoken -- DONALD TRUMP, THEN-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Give it to me and -- COHEN: And I've spoken to Allen Weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with -- TRUMP: So what do we have to pay for this? COHEN: -- funding. Yes. And it's all the stuff -- TRUMP: I was thinking about that. COHEN: All the stuff. Because here you never know where that company -- you never know what he's going to be - - TRUMP: Maybe he gets hit by a truck. COHEN: Correct. So I'm all over that. And I spoke to Allen about it. When it comes time for the financing, which will be -- TRUMP: Wait a second, what financing? COHEN: We'll have to pay him something -- TRUMP: Pay with cash. COHEN: No, no, no, no. I got -- no, no, no. TRUMP: Check -- (END AUDIO CLIP) HANNITY: What you just heard amounts to nothing. It never happened. The contents of that tape provides literally no new information. Zero, zero significance here, no criminal law in question and what you just witnessed is something that occurs every single day at every major company in the country. Crisis management to protect a brands image and reputation in this case, it's the Trump Organization. But over on the destroyed Trump media, this was once again a daily earth- shattering scandal, that's going to bring down the president, except it's not. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We now have a secret audio recording that apparently shows Donald Trump discussing payments to bury a story about an alleged affair with a Playboy playmate, and the timing here is everything. The payments were discussed just before he won the election, think about that. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There may be other issues here. There may be bank fraud, tax fraud, money laundering issues with the way they structured the payments, those kinds of issues in the end could be more dangerous and damaging than the campaign finance issue. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's a very embarrassing and humiliating tape for the president and I think ironically, Giuliani says I can -- I can understand what's on this tape because I've listened to mob tapes. You know what the president is similar to a mob tape. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Which if you listen to this, again, it sounds like this is the weekly or the monthly Michael's here to figure out what we have to cover up meeting. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, these are the same people now who literally peddle day after day, crisis after crisis, it's like 24/7, the same people were pushing impeachment even before the president took office, the same people who were predicting the end of days or at least the end of Trump ever since he descended from that escalator in Trump Tower in 2015 and announced his candidacy to be the president. The same people who have literally gone through three major crises this week alone. Now, in order to show you how the mainstream corrupt media has literally turned into a real-life version of Chicken Little, we put together what's we're calling a mega montage of some of the worst moments. But get ready because the sky is falling every second of the day. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You better be ready for the fact that he may be leading the Republican ticket. (LAUGHTER) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I know you don't believe that, but I want to go on. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sorry to laugh. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I understand why so many people voted for him. I understand where you were coming from. I understand why you liked him, but this man is lying to you. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump is a president with whom there is grave question about his fitness and ability to conduct the office of the president. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'll say it again, this Russian connection just keeps building and every time it builds and expands, you have to wonder if Trump himself isn't worried about what's swirling around under the covers. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The entire world's watching and, of course, most importantly, Vladimir Putin's watching. It seemed like yesterday was his love note to Vladimir Putin. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is certainly an unusual speech, a weird speech, rocket man, insulting Kim Jong-un. MADONNA: Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of course I want to punch him in the face. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sixteen tweets today to start the new year, some of them deeply disturbing. These are the messages from a person who is not well. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He said he's an excellent help, I mean Sanjay Gupta came out with like, not so sure about excellent health. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: President Trump is goading Kim Jong-un to test a nuclear missile again, to prove its reliability, to show him wrong. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The stormy saga takes a dramatic turn as the porn star speaks out on her alleged affair with citizen Trump. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels' lawyer. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We haven't heard from him about the Stormy Daniels affair. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I guess he's a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) holer. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there a difference if the president said (EXPLETIVE DELETED) hole or (EXPLETIVE DELETED) house. I want to read the definition of treason. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This was nothing short of treasonous. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The idea that the president would be revoking security clearance not based on wrongdoing, just based on words is shameful. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: With any previous president, if you'd woken up to this all-caps tweet threatening war with Iran, you think he probably belongs in a padded cell, but with Trump, this is kind of business as normal. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Just a tiny sampling. This is literally now every minute, every hour of every day, the media their friends on the left three years running, obsessing over the crisis of the second, totally ignoring the biggest issues that we the people are facing in this country and ignoring the massive success out of the Trump administration. And if they can't weaponize the story against President Trump, they don't really seem interested at all in covering it. News is non-existent in this country on these so-called news channels. Right here on this show, we have been sounding the alarm about the serious corruption, real corruption real abuse of power a real Russia scandal at the highest levels of the DOJ and the FBI. Over at the destroy Trump media, crickets. And naturally, the media goes to great lengths to avoid talking about all the positive developments surrounding the country and the Trump administration. They won't want you to know about the huge successes out of the White House. For the first time in years, we'll find out Friday America's GDP is seeing healthy real growth. Remember, it was just a short time ago, the Obama administration wanted Americans to accept our so-called new normal, like Jimmy Carter saying wear a sweater, a pathetic growth rate of 1 or 2 percent. Now, according to projections, our second quarter growth should be about 4 percent, maybe higher. Add to that, we now have historic job growth, 2 million fewer people on food stamps, there were more jobs available than there are people on unemployment in the country and, oh, by the way the greatest labor participation rate in history. Wow, good news for the forgotten men and women, the ones that voted for President Trump even though the fix was in for Hillary and, of course, they covered up her crimes, and then they turned their sights on Trump and they even lied to FISA court judges, a massive accomplishment that you never hear about. And, yesterday, the president tweeted this out. Our country is doing great, best financial numbers on the planet, great to have the USA winning again. And on Friday, we expect that full GDP report for the second quarter. We'll bring you those numbers as they become available. But tonight, we have even more positive developments that you'll never hear in the media on the economic front, after months of negotiations and fear- mongering by the media, oh he's starting a trade war -- well, the president put fears of that wart with Europe to rest as he signed off on a significantly improved trade deal for American businesses free of tariffs, barriers and subsidies. Here's the president explaining all of this earlier today. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We agreed today first of all to work together toward zero tariffs, zero non-tariff barriers and zero subsidies on non-auto industrial goods. Thank you. We will also work to reduce barriers and increase trade and services, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, medical products as well as soybeans. Soybeans is a big deal. This will open markets for farmers and workers increase investment and lead to greater prosperity in both the United States and the European Union. It will also make trade fairer and more reciprocal, my favorite word, reciprocal. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Well, if he didn't negotiate, that wouldn't have happened. And the president pointed out today this deal will open markets for farmers in America, workers, increase investment lead to greater prosperity in both the U.S. and the European Union, win-win, also make trade fairer and more reciprocal as favorite word as he said. Great news for goods, services made right here in the United States, good for the American worker that was unemployed in the Obama years. Now, despite the constant negativity coming from so much of the media and Democrats, you think they want the economy to grow and be prosperous? No, they want their power back. More and more Americans, you're seeing the truth with your own eyes. We got a new poll out today. In spite of all the media hysteria, oh, look at "The Hills" poll. The president's approval rating is now higher than ever, nearly 50 percent. Oh by the way, same with Gallup, same with NBC/"Wall Street Journal". And on the world stage, the president has also seen progress which is good for our kids and grandkids. The president's pick I think an excellent choice, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, hit the ground running. He's overseeing steady significant progress out of North Korea, China and, yes, we're being tougher on Russia than Obama ever dreamed of, because he was sending messages, tell Vladimir I have more flexibility after the election. Well, today, the Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, he testified on the hill and he explained to some of these dumb senators that the president's peace through strength strategy to counter the hostile actions of Vladimir Putin and the hostile regime of Russia, and what we're doing about it. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKE POMPEO, SECRETARY OF STATE: The United States calls on Russia to respect the principles to which it has long claimed to adhere and to end its occupation of Crimea, end of quote. I want to show this committee that the United States does not and will not recognize the Kremlin's purported annexation of Crimea. We stand together with allies, partners and the international community in our commitment to Ukraine and its territorial integrity. There will be no relief of Crimea-related sanctions until Russia returns control of the Crimean peninsula to Ukraine. This Crimea declaration formalizes United States policy of non-recognition. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Formalizes it. Oh, but they -- but I think there was somebody at NBC that actually suggested that the president was an agent of Russia. This is how insane so called news has gotten. Now, the secretary of state also helped Democratic senators -- that aren't really too bright some of them -- understand how under the leadership of the president the U.S. is actually leading from the front all over the world, not from behind. And we're not going on apology tours and we're not dropping $150 billion on the tarmac in cash and other currency to the mullahs of Iran that chant death to Israel and debt to America. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. ROBERT MENENDEZ (D), NEW JERSEY: Did he tell Putin that I'll release or ultimately relaxed sanctions? POMPEO: Senator, what you need to conduct your role, your appropriate role, I will provide you today. That is United States policy with respect to the issues you request, you asked me about us policy with respects to sanctions, and I can confirm to that no commitment has been made to change those policies in any way. Just so the facts are clear, the previous administration is the one that enabled Russia to have the capacity that they have in Syria today. SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D), NEW HAMPSHIRE: I'm not defending the previous administration, Mr. Secretary, I want this administration to continue doing what's working. POMPEO: It's policy. This administration's policy you're advocating for the continuation of this administration's laws I think that's important for everyone to understand. SEN. ED MARKEY (D), MASSACHUSETTS: North Korea still has chemical and biological weapons and brutalizes its own people, and again, there's no verifiable evidence that North Korea is denuclearization -- denuclearizing. POMPEO: Senator -- MARKEY: So I am afraid then at this point, the United States -- the Trump administration is being taken for a ride. POMPEO: Fear not, Senator. Fear not. MARKEY: There's no evidence to the contrary. POMPEO: Fear not, Senator. MARKEY: There's no evidence. POMPEO: Senator, fear not. May I -- MARKEY: Yes, please? POMPEO: I guess you didn't ask a question, so -- MARKEY: No, that's all right, please -- POMPEO: Fear not. This administration has taken enormous lead constructive actions that have put us in a place that is far better, than in either of the two previous administrations, one Republican, one Democrat. We have put sanctions regime in place that is unequaled. We are continuing to enforce that sanctions regime. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No missiles fired over Japan, dismantled nuclear test site, hostages turned home. We'll have the bodies of Americans killed in that war sent back, and we're talking about denuclearization of the Korean peninsula and no bribery. Now, last but definitely not least tonight, some major breaking news out of the deep state. This is important. Moments ago, a group of 11 House Republicans have officially now introduced articles of impeachment against the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the guy that signed the last FISA warrant. After months of obstructing what is congressional subpoenas and failing to comply with these subpoenas and inhibiting the important investigation and the FISA abuse, their Russia witch-hunt and so much more, Rod Rosenstein must now be held accountable. It's called congressional government oversight. It's called checks and balances, co-equal branches of government, and, yes, the United States Constitution, and it's time for Rod Rosenstein to be held accountable. We got a lot to get to tonight, a lot of reaction. Rudy Giuliani in a minute. Joining us first with reaction is former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Joe diGenova, and FOX News contributor Sara Carter. Sara, we'll start with you and the breaking news. I think Joe has a lot to say. (LAUGHTER) SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Joe does have a lot to say. One of the things that happened today, I think it was the straw that broke the camel's back, Sean, was the fact that when Meadows and Jordan went to meet with the DOJ and FBI, once again they refused to comply. They said they were in compliance with giving the documents over to Congress. There was I guess a lot of arguing back and forth. Jordan and Meadows said they weren't in compliance, that after nine months, they still didn't even know how many documents they needed to turn over to them. There was another issue that came up which I thought was very interesting. The FBI did agree with Congressman Jordan that struck did not answer 90 percent of the questions that he could have answered that he took a very, very broad interpretation. This is Peter Strzok when he provided testimony, the FBI agent. So, they are going to be calling Peter Strzok back to testify before Congress and hopefully he will be answering a lot of the questions that Congressman Jordan had asked him that he refused to answer. HANNITY: Let me go to you, Joe. He was under oath and, you know, if you did have your past job, I don't think I would be under oath. But more importantly, let's go to Rod Rosenstein. This is a guy -- he signed the fourth warrant which was the bulk of information was that phony Russian dossier paid for by Clinton. They didn't tell the FISA court judges. They didn't verify the information. They didn't follow the law. They didn't follow up behind protocol. And Rod Rosenstein signed the last one, the third renewal, the fourth, all together. Your reaction? JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA: Well, there's no doubt that Rod Rosenstein deserves everything that he's getting. Whether or not impeachment is the right way to go doesn't even matter anymore. Rosenstein remembered, didn't even read the final application he had people explain to him what was in it. Rosenstein is the one responsible for the crisis that the president has faced in the Mueller probe. Without Rosenstein there is no Mueller probe. He did it purposely to avoid having to make difficult decisions in a political investigation. He should be ashamed of himself. He's getting precisely what he deserves. But what's more important than that, Sean, is that you are watching a president of the United States who has astride the globe, and he is being assisted ably a secretary of state in full. We no longer have a namby- pamby foreign policy. We have a secretary of state who today performed beyond any expectations any Americans could expect of a secretary of state. I was amazed at Pompeo's performance and I can tell you -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: -- to say that. DIGENOVA: -- the president is really pleased, especially because of the outrageous performance of the Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats in Aspen when he kissed the feet of Andrea Mitchell and criticized the president of the United States. Shame on Dan Coats. HANNITY: I watched Pompeo today and I literally felt -- DIGENOVA: Fabulous, faboulous. HANNITY: -- finally no apologies, finally strength. And he laid out all the things that the president -- NBC though I think reported that he's an agent of Russia. He's doing to Russia. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: But the irony to here is, look, we cannot ignore -- I got to get your take on this FISA. Listen, if I lied to a FISA judge or I lied to any judge, you couldn't get me out of jail as great an attorney as you are. If I did -- DIGENOVA: Sean -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: -- you couldn't get me out of jail? DIGENOVA: This case is over. HANNITY: What? DIGENOVA: Sean, this case is over. The FBI under Obama and the Department of Justice under Obama with John Carlin, the assistant attorney general for national security, lied to the FISA court, hid material information from the FISA court. It is an outrageous abuse of power and if Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein have not begun a grand jury to investigate all the people involved in the phony dossier and everything involved on it, ultimately when Mueller is done, Rosenstein and Session should be fired. This is a clear case of criminal law violation in the FISA application. It was clearly a fraud committed on the FISA court, and it is beyond belief that nothing publicly known has been done to hold accountable everybody involved in the signing of those applications in the FISA court. HANNITY: Sara, real quick because we got a run. But you've been amazing on all of this. CARTER: I couldn't agree more with, Joe. I just want to say really quick remember what they did leave out of the FISA was the fact that Bruce Ohr at the DOJ said that Christopher sealed would do anything to keep Donald Trump from being president, and I think that's all we need to say. HANNITY: And they didn't say that Hillary paid for it. CARTER: Absolutely. HANNITY: And that these are unverified Russian lies. CARTER: Right. HANNITY: Robert Mueller, there's your Russia story. Go find it. We laid it on a platter for you. Thank you all. When we come back -- all right, the president's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, we have a live report up from Catherine Herridge on these articles of impeachment introduced, a ton of breaking news. Stay right there. HANNITY: FOX News alert: moments ago, Congressman Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan, along with nine co- sponsors now have introduced articles of impeachment against the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Here with a new update on this is Catherine Herridge in Washington. Catherine, what's going on? CATHERINE HERRIDGE, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Thanks, Sean. Good evening. The articles of impeachment called out the deputy attorney general and alleged a conflict of interest. These heavily redacted records released over the weekend show Rosenstein signed off on the last surveillance warrant renewal in June 2017 for Trump campaign aide Carter Page. These lawmakers say that's a big deal because their committees are investigating government surveillance abuse. Quote: Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein's failure to recuse himself in light of this inherent conflict of interest and failure to recommend the appointment of a second special counsel constitute dereliction of duty. After lawmakers met with senior DOJ and FBI officials earlier today, reporters were told FBI agent Peter Strzok avoided too many questions during his recent congressional testimony and he will likely be recalled. The closed- door depositions from struck, and FBI lawyer Lisa Page identified records previously unknown to lawmakers about a file documenting FBI efforts to verify the controversial Trump dossier. Lawmakers questioned whether verification happened before the dossier was used by the FBI as evidence to secure the surveillance warrant. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE) in the FISA application? REP. MARK MEADOWS (R-NC), HOUSE FREEDOM CAUCUS CHAIRMAN: Well, I think that when you look at that, that's the key question that we're looking at these documents, when did it start, and I think those start dates could be problematic for some of the narratives that are out there right now. (END VIDEO CLIP) HERRIDGE: Heading into the meeting today, Justice Department officials indicated to FOX News that they believe they have complied with the majority of congressional subpoenas. On the articles of impeachment tonight, there was no immediate response and in the last hour, Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein and Congressman Adam Schiff called the Republicans move deeply partisan, Sean. HANNITY: All right. Catherine Herridge in Washington, thank you for that report. Now with us is the president's attorney, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Mr. Mayor, great to see you. RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ATTORNEY: Sean, good to see you. HANNITY: All right. A lot of news. Let's get your reaction to Congressman Meadows, Jordan and more importantly, the fourth -- well, the third renewal, the fourth FISA warrant Rod Rosenstein signed off on. GIULIANI: Rod Rosenstein is one of people in charge of this case. So, I'm not going to get involved in critiquing his conduct unless at the end we have to. I'm hopeful he's going to make the right decision. I see the case falling apart. I see in front of my eyes what happened yesterday with the first of Cohen's tape, what happened today was the one with Chris Cuomo, which is not Cuomo's fault. It's his fault. That one -- I mean, they've been saying all along, did the president know about it? Cohen says on the tape he didn't know about it. Did Cohen pay for it? Cohen said he paid for it. Was it for the campaign or was it personal? Cohen says it was personal, over and over again, not just one. It's a two-hour tape. And Cuomo, like a reporter, pressed him (ph) and he sticks with his story. HANNITY: Why -- GIULIANI: Totally, totally with regard to that particular situation, once again, totally legitimate conduct. HANNITY: From what we read, and this a two-hour conversation. But let's go back to last night for just a second. You have listened to that tape how many times and some say that the president said 'check.' (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: I think 30. The president said I have it right here. I had the transcript. I have five people go over it and another five -- you got to listen to it four or five times which is when I talked about mafia tapes -- I didn't talk about this about mafia tapes. I said I'm an expert on tapes, I did 4,000 hours of men on tapes saying, hey, Racko (Ph), what are we going to do today? HANNITY: My gosh. So we're going to put you in the next movie. GIULIANI: Yes. I want for that. Donald Trump says don't pay with cash. Interruption. Cohen, no, no, no I got it. Check, no, no, no. And then very, very suspiciously he cuts the tape off because it's a very, very innocent very solid explanation. Here's another reason it had to be checked. Before they talk about doing it by a corporation. How are they going to do cash with corporation doing $150,000. HANNITY: It's impossible. GIULIANI: Yes, impossible. You might as well sign up for jail. HANNITY: Yes. Let's look at the big picture. The status, this has gone on. Look at the country is so divided. I have been very harsh in terms of -- I believe that a presidential election at the highest levels that the fix was in, that Hillary was guilty of obstruction in violating the Espionage Act and it was rigged. I -- you see what we learned about the FISA warrants on Saturday night. They never verify the information, they never corroborated the information, they purposely withheld from the judges on four separate occasions that this was Hillary Clinton bought and paid for what turned out to be Russian lies. There's a Russia conspiracy here. There's a Russia thoughts. GIULIANI: If you look at theoretically there, one of the things they were concerned about, to the president obstruct justice when he fired Comey? First of all, he has a right to do it in the article two. Secondly, he made it clear to Lester Holt he did it knowing that the investigation would continue so he couldn't obstruct it. And thirdly, I have 15 reasons for doing this including the Horowitz that kind of outline for-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And one to say is Rod Rosenstein. GIULIANI: On the other hand, how does Hillary not get prosecuted for destroying tapes, lying at least three or four times, having people -- having people tell totally phony stories, false exculpatory statements, destruction of evidence. That's all evidence of intent, corrupt intent. And Mueller-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So let's go to-- GIULIANI: He reads that all the way as if he didn't exist. HANNITY: You told Laura last night. GIULIANI: Not Mueller. Excuse me. HANNITY: I know. You got Comey. GIULIANI: Comey. HANNITY: Got it. You told Laura Ingraham last night that there are no more tapes on Donald Trump. Everyone is reporting that there's 12 tapes-- (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: Michael Avenatti was running around all weekend saying he said it on ABC. He actually said he got it from Cohen and I mean, he says it on TV, Dershowitz cross-examined him brilliantly and got him to say he got the tapes from Cohen and there were numerous tapes with President Trump. Well, the government must be hiding them if that's the case and I assure you the Southern District of New York is not hiding evidence. In fact, I can't imagine. HANNITY: Some of the best prosecutors came out of there. Some of the best- - (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: I can't imagine they are shocked by this unbelievable assault on the attorney-client privilege, my God. HANNITY: Yes. Let's-- (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: I've never heard of this. HANNITY: America has been following this and I've been given very different narrative that is really -- everything we reported has come true. I wish some of it was wrong by the way. And I still say that the heroes in this are going to be FBI and CIA guys. My question to you is, is this now coming to an end? Because you talked last night and I watch Alan Dershowitz after, that there won't be any talk about obstruction with the president, then is there going to be a subpoena fight? Is there are going to be any discussion about collusion and why would you ever allow him to talk to this group of people which I have very strongly criticized? GIULIANI: Well, it's certainly as a big barrier. There's no reason to talk about obstruction because article two precludes obstruction. The defenses to obstruction were overwhelming including what I told you he's saying he will be -- can't the investigation would go on to Lester Holt. They conveniently leave that off whenever they play that tape, amazing what they do with tapes. However, there is a narrow area which you and I both think that we might think about it and we are in discussion with a special counsel about it, it would all have to do with collusion so there is no perjury trap. It would all be done so we get this thing over with-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Why they don't believe that they could do it without setting a perjury trap. I just-- (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: Well, then they'll give up on the obstruction point, where there's no obstruction case. And what they're trying to set up is the president against Comey and they are going to believe Comey no matter the fact that Comey is probably one of the most incredible guys around. HANNITY: Will this be done before the election? GIULIANI: I believe it will. I think Mueller wants to get it over with before the election. I really believe that. HANNITY: Good of the country. GIULIANI: Yes. HANNITY: Do you think he is a good man? GIULIANI: I think he's OK, I think he's a good man. I think he's got some people around him that-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Andrew Weissmann is-- (CROSSTALK) GIULIANI: -- including one with a record that's astoundingly bad. HANNITY: I know the one you're talking about. Sir, Mr. Mayor, great to see you as always. Thank you. When we come back, we will show you why John Brennan former CIA director deserves to get his security clearance revoked and much more, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. The White House announced this week that it was looking into stripping the security clearance from several Obama era officials. One of the people who may be losing his privilege is, yes, the only guy that voted for a communist for president. How he ever became the CIA director is a mystery, director John Brennan. He is one of the biggest Trump haters out there, now a political hack for conspiracy theory TV where I guess he belongs. This is, now remember, the CIA protocol says if you want to keep your clearance, you've got to act like a modern-day CIA employee, you can't be doing stuff like this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER UNITED STATES CIA DIRECTOR: I think he's afraid of the president of Russia. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why? BRENNAN: Well, I think one can speculate as to why, that the Russians may have something on him personally. That they could always roll out and make his life more difficult. Mr. Trump continues to have ignorance of facts, a willful disregard of them. Again, just to follow through on these campaign promises that really were very flawed. I and so many other national security officials are speaking out because of the abnormal and aberrance behavior of Mr. Trump. This is a very large and painful national kidney stone. The relief we feel afterward is going to be just exhilarating. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Here with reaction, he's the author of "Why We Fight: Recovering America's Will to Win" Fox News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka, retired CIA senior intelligence officer Fox News contributor, Daniel Hoffman. Daniel, let me start with you. You know John Brennan. The CIA we did put it up on the screen last night, yes, if you want your clearance you've got to act as though you a current the same way a current CIA employee would act. Is that the actions of a current CIA employee? DANIEL HOFFMAN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Not exactly. Let me just make two quick points, Sean. First of all, for the rank and file retired intelligence officers who retain a security clearance is because they have a job to do as a contractor back in the intelligence committee which requires the clearance. Secondly, there's no evidence that John Brennan or Jim Clapper has revealed classified information. In fact, they have like, willfully spoken untruths not based on intelligence. Jim Clapper claims that the Russians tilted the election to Donald Trump, not true. And absolutely contradicts the intelligence that was produced and resulted in the January 2017-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He has lied. HOFFMAN: -- the DNI said over which Clapper presided. Brennan claims that Putin could blackmail Trump, same thing. There is no evidence to support that claim. So they're both being irresponsible even though they're not exactly, you know, revealing classified information. HANNITY: Dr. Gorka, I know you have a thing or two to say on this. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: I have three things to say, Sean. Number one, since the CIA was created in 1947, not one former CIA director has behaved as disgracefully as John Brennan. The idea that within months of leaving office you are attacking the sitting president, calling him treasonous and accusing him of committing high crimes and misdemeanors is absolutely outrageous. Secondly, you mention it in your introduction -- how is it that John Brennan even got a job at the CIA when he admitted to voting for the communist party at the height of the Cold War when the Soviet Union had 25,000 nuclear warheads aimed at this country and when it was committed to our destruction. I would like to find an investigation as to why he was employed by the CIA, let alone become its director. And lastly, Daniel, let me expand upon what Daniel said. There are only two reasons after you retire from government service at his level that you should maintain a security clearance. Number one, you are actively involved in a current government project as a contractor, John Brennan isn't. Secondly, your advice is requested by your successors so that the new CIA director can listen to you. This administration does not want John Brennan's advice, therefore, the president should strip him of his security clearance right now, Sean. HANNITY: Well said. How do you get to call yourself NBC News and have people under that banner suggesting that without any evidence, the president may be an agent of Russia, an agent, and that he is compromised when the president has been 10 times stronger, Daniel Hoffman, against Russia than Mister apologize for America and bribe the mullahs of Iran with American dollars in cash. HOFFMAN: John Brennan later walk that back, pulls back-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: OK. HOFFMAN: But the damage was done, Sean. HANNITY: Yes. HOFFMAN: Because a lot of our allies who share intelligence with us heard him. And they assume that base on the fact that John Brennan has that security clearance he might know something. Same with our sources in Russia who might worry about their safety because John Brennan is claiming that the president could be blackmailed by Vladimir Putin. Brennan needed to have taken the Hippocratic Oath of doing no harm to our national security when he exercised his right to free speech. HANNITY: Dr. Gorka. GORKA: Every time John Brennan spins these insinuations, he is doing Vladimir Putin's dirty work. That's who John Brennan is today. He is undermining America. HANNITY: Well said. Thank you both. When we come back, they are back. Jesse Watters, Jessica Tarlov we'll find out who's world it is on Meghan McCain takedown of Joy Behar in her defense of socialism, powerful moment. You don't want to miss it, next. HANNITY: All right. Things got very heated, shocking, on The View yesterday, Joy Behar and Meghan McCain got into a debate over socialism and Democrats rising star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and this is what happened, take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST, ABC: Isn't Democratic socialist and very close to liberalism, I mean. MEGHAN MCCAIN, CO-HOST, ABC: No. BEHAR: I mean, think about it for a second, Medicare, social security, garbage collection, the post office, the library-- (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I agree with you. MCCAIN: I hope Democrats do run a Democratic socialist. (CROSSTALK) BEHAR: You hope that we win. MCCAIN: No, because I think you will lose spectacularly, and then I'll look forward to election when I finally get to sell (Inaudible) Hold yourself. He ends up running a radical. The problem with socialism in the words of Margaret Thatcher, at a certain point you run out of spending other people's money. Every Democratic socialist who is going on TV saying that it's good it needs to start paying 90 percent in taxes on your tax forms-- (APPLAUSE) BEHAR: But you're just naming-- MCCAIN: No, on your tax forms I think you should start paying the amount of taxes that every socialist in this country thinks he needs to. Because if you think the government is so good at spending money, look at the (Inaudible). It's dangerous. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Boom. Meghan McCain. The only thing missing was Jeanine Pirro being thrown off the show. It would have been a perfect show. All right. It's his world and we live in it, he's got two shows, the co-host of The Five, Jesse Watters, and Waters World and waters everything. And Jessica Tarlov who was the reigning champion and lost your -- all right. So this is the Democrat agenda for 2018. They want to impeach Donald Trump but they don't want to say it, they want their crumbs back. We'll get to that in a second. That's what Meghan McCain was talking about. They want open borders and to get rid of ICE, they want to keep Obamacare - - it's been a great success. And on top of all of that we've got a party that literally wants to stop investigations into corruption. Why do you explain to Americans, why they should give their crumbs to Nancy Pelosi and Elizabeth Warren and Joy Behar? JESSICA TARLOV, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: In donations money? Because they are actually when Democrats getting tough. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: No, no, no. TARLOV: Why they should take that thousand dollars and give it to the Democrats? HANNITY: Well, $2,000 were significant amount of money for the real families. Yes, why they should give it back? TARLOV: Well, there are new reports that wages haven't actually been increasing but I guess that the tax cuts were a big bonus for the Republican side. They should give it to the Democrats because our agenda will benefit middle and lower class Americans. And that's not what's going on here. HANNITY: So you want every American who has a tax cut to be taxed again, you want it back. TARLOV: No. That's not what's going to happen. First of all, the mega rich are the ones that you two are getting taxed. I'm not even going to get that. HANNITY: You have no idea how much Jesse gets paid. JESSE WATTERS, FOX NEWS HOST: Whatever it is it's not enough. TARLOV: Hey. WATTERS: I want to say this. So you want to bring Venezuela to America, I think that's terrible. Because in Venezuela, human beings are taking dog medicine. There is famine. It is the murder capital of the world. I think if you want to bring socialism to America you hate America because it's going to destroy America, and politically it's suicide to become socialists. It puts you guys in 1994, you went way left and you went way left in 2010. Both times Republicans swept through the House, massive gains. If you guys want to kill yourselves I'm going to sit back and watch. TARLOV: Well, in 2010, you guys went way right and you took a lot of House's seats, 66 I think. We only need 23 to take control. The Dems socialist movement right now there only 42 of these candidates in contention nationwide. This is in the mainstream Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi. They're not Democrat socialist, Bernie Sanders is. HANNITY: No. TARLOV: No? No. They talk about it all the time. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How about -- wait, Meghan McCain had a really good idea. TARLOV: There was some mainstream Dems conference in Ohio. HANNITY: Meghan McCain had a really good idea, I like it. TARLOV: Ninety percent? HANNITY: No. We're going to put the -- we'll call it the Joy Behar, Jessica Tarlov box. WATTERS: Yes. HANNITY: Pay as much as you think you should pay but leave the rest of Americans alone, families that are struggling to pay for their cars and their mortgages and send their kids to a private school because the public school sucks, et cetera. TARLOV: I think-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: You know what the truth is, Sean, they can't afford any of these policies, they're not very good at math. You know how much free health care costs? Thirty trillion dollars and they want to add free housing at free college on top of that. You can raise everybody's taxes to 90 percent, that isn't going to make a dent in the cost of those programs. TARLOV: Yes. But this is what I'm saying, and when I return to what I said just two seconds ago. This is in the Democrat mainstream. When you look at what Bernie is advocating versus Hillary, she made the same point, you sound like Hillary Clinton, Jesse Waters. Because she said how are we going to pay for that? (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: A lot (Inaudible) up then. TARLOV: How did you take my awesome line and make it even better? HANNITY: That is a great line. TARLOV: Jesse Watters, you sound like Hillary Clinton, I win for that. HANNITY: I'm sorry. But the comeback beat the line. The comeback killed it. TARLOV: The validity of my argument, though, should be, Jesse-- (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: (Inaudible). TARLOV: Yes, there it is. WATTERS: OK. TARLOV: Dems socialists are not the majority. We're not indeed-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Hey, could you name one positive agenda item for the Democrats besides the five items I mentioned? TARLOV: Yes. Our tax plan is a lot better. (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: Raising taxes. HANNITY: Raising taxes. TARLOV: Yes, on you. HANNITY: Don't change. All right. Ready? TARLOV: All right. HANNITY: Watters World. WATTERS: There it is. HANNITY: All right. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh, a really great words about the president's critics in the media constantly, breathlessly trying to take it down every second, every minute of every day. HANNITY: All right. The great Rush Limbaugh has such a great take on the continuous failure of the media to just destroy and delegitimize the president you voted for. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: One of these things these clowns at CNN, and the drive by is not getting, that is that every phony blockbuster story about Trump, everyone of these things that doesn't anywhere. Every one of these things that doesn't get rid of Donald Trump inoculates him. From the next one. And every inoculation then lessens the credibility of the media and all of this I think ends up helping Trump. They have figured this out. They still think they can get rid of Republican presidents. They are not going to give up. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Such a good point. Every second, every minute, every hour of every day, they can't help themselves. Rush is right. They're inoculating Trump. We'll always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. We always thank you for being with us and we hope you'll tune in tomorrow night along with the breaking news, Roseanne Barr will join us. You don't want to miss it. Let not your heart be troubled. Load-Date: July 26, 2018 End of Document Trump meets with EU Commission president and agree to trade deals; Media refuses to highlight Trump's success; GOP Congressman file articles of impeachment against Rod Rosenstein Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST July 25, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8705 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Richard Goodstein; David Bossie; Dan Bongino; Jim Jordan; Mark Meadows; Gregg Jarret Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Thank you for being with us and we hope you'll tune in tomorrow tonight along with the breaking news, Roseanne Barr will join us. You do not want to miss it. Let not your heart be troubled. Ingraham, Angles, you have some of my best friends on the show. You have Jordan Meadows and Gregg Jarret who has the number one book in the country. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Oh, Gregg's book is awesome. Hey Giuliani came on my show last night. I'm glad I loaned him to you tonight. HANNITY: Is everything tit for tat? Everything single thing tit for tat? INGRAHAM: Yes basically, well you started it. You're the one who said, "You have my guests tonight" so there, it was like brother and sister. How long have we been fighting like this? We've been fighting like this for at least 18 years so this like never ends. HANNITY: B the way my tie is crooked, I never knew it does that, I fix it at the end of the show. All right, you have been mean to me for 18 years, I'm going to tell the whole story one day on top of how much trouble you go into like Tucker in college. INGRAHAM: No problem. Watch what you ask for Hannity. HANNITY: I've been worse than both of you just so we know. Have a great show, we'll see you tomorrow. INGRAHAM: All right see you tomorrow Hannity. I'm Laura Ingraham, this is the Ingraham Angle. A stunning development concerning the potential fate of the deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein tonight. Congressman Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan have just filed, wait for it, articles of impeachment against the man tasked with overseeing the Mueller probe. They'll be here exclusively to tell us why in just a bit. Plus Raymond Arroyo will be here to expose the literal and figurative stars broken by a PC culture gone totally mad. A special Hollywood edition of our Seen and Unseen segment ahead, you don't want to miss it. We also have some major stories to report about I.C.E and the threat from China. But first, Trump Wins while the Resistance Spins, that's the focus of tonight's Angle. To listen to the media in this country you would think that these are the biggest stories in America. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALI VELSHI, MSNBC HOST: As the fallout from Donald Trump's disastrous summit with Vladimir Putin continues, so does the Mueller investigation into possible Trump Russia collusion. KATY TUR, MSNBC HOST: There seems to be some sort of expense that's in place that Trump organisation for things that needed to be fixed like a Stormy Daniels. MJ LEE, CNN NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER: That conversation with Donald Trump that Michael Cohen secretly recorded is officially no longer a secret. CHRIS CILUZZA, CNN POLITICS REPORTER: I think the big story here is the fact that you now have Michael Cohen has now flipped on Donald Trump. (END VIDEO CLIP) INHRAHAM: But those stories are nothing more than meaningless stand ins, distractions from the most important story of the day and what is it? America's winning again because we have a president with guts. On defence, on manufacturing, our culture, trade, few presidents have thought the way Trump has. Even his former GOP foes have had to concede the obvious. Here's Marco Rubio on Trump's interactions with China. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SENATOR MARCO RUBIO (R) FLORIDA: On a broader scale, I don't know of any administration that's confronted China's cheating more than this administration has, to be fair. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Trump has steadfastly refused to cede America's pre eminence to the communist regime of China. But remember China already has a $23.2 trillion economy which is almost four trillion more than our own. But with tough tariffs and blunt talk, he has now brought China to the negotiating table, that is a very good thing. And just today the president met with the EU Commission president to discuss trade after Trump boosted tariffs on certain EU goods to create fair situation for American manufacturers, the EU retaliated with tariffs of its own but today they're all singing a different tune. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We agreed today first of all to work together toward zero tariffs, zero non tariff barriers and zero subsidies on non auto industrial goods. We will also work to reduce barriers and increase trade in services, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, medical products as well as soy beans. It will also make trade fairer and more reciprocal. JEAN-CLAUDE JUNKER, PRESIDENT OF THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION: When I was invited by the president to the White House, I had to run intention. I had the intention to make a deal today and we made a deal today. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Why haven't these other presidents done what Trump did? They didn't want to, or they didn't have the brain power to do it, or they didn't have the courage to do it. But today the market responded closing at its highest level since January. And this kind of advance wouldn't have been possible if Trump hadn't raised the issue of and raised the ante with the EU all along. The market is soaring, wages are beginning, ever so slowly, to rise. In fact 213,000 jobs have been added here just last month due to Trumps' policies. GDP growth is strong with an expected huge number this Friday. Bottom line, it is a great time to be an American. Someone who's working, wants a job and to top it all off, the president's `Hire American' initiative has started to produce results. There was a 41 percent increase in denials of high skilled H1B visa applicants between the third and fourth quarter. That helps American citizens over foreign workers in the job market, it's about time. And the president is doing all of this while battling the deep state, the unfair media, of course all the international bureaucrats we've come to know and love and establishment politicians here in Washington. And there are some congressmen, who despite all this great news, just refuse to get the memo that the Bush era is over. (BEGIN VIDEP CLIP) PAUL RYAN, (R) WISCONSIN, SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: I don't support tariffs, I think tariffs are taxes. And I think there are better tools that we can use to hold abusers of trade laws and countries that perpetuate unfair trade practises. I think there are better tools to use to get them to play fairly. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: I have a question, if those magic tools were out there, why weren't they used before? What tools, I'm looking for a tool box, where are they? Let's remember what some other experts on congress were recently saying about the tariffs. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SENATOR CHRIS COONS (D) DELAWARE: A wildly swung bat that is hitting our closest allies in a way that harms our national security, harms our chance at better trade deals. SENATOR RON JOHNSON (R) WISCONSIN: I just think there's so much collateral damage that needs a very risky and dangerous strategy. SENATOR BOB CORKER (R) TENNESEE: This is an abuse of presidential authority, it's just an abuse of presidential authority. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well once again, guess what? They're wrong. Trump stood for America with a tool that every president has used in form or another and our economic competitors ended up doing the thing that he'd predicted they'd do. They came to the table, they started listening and they made concessions, more are coming by the way. So rather than taking hot shots at the president, Republicans should be celebrating and promoting this approach to trade in the economy, the Trump agenda. It's also their clearest path to victory in the midterms which reminds me by the way. A word of caution for this president at the same time. We got to talk straight here with all the good news, also a word of caution. Every time Mr President you come in with the latest Michael Cohen tape or every time you spar with low lives like Brenna or Avenatti or any of them, I think what you do sometimes, you end up giving oxygen to the stories advanced by your political opponents to distract from the most important story. That's America's economic resurgence and a restoration of our place in the world. So Donald Trump should be taking a victory lap almost every week. In a different way, shape or form, things are awesome right now. The more the president and his party focus on that story, the more the Stormy, Muller, Michael Cohen side show is diminished. The media attempt to distract voters from a lived experience of the Trump economy but I'm telling you it's not working. My radio listeners tell me every day, "We don't care about these stories, what's in my bottom line?" Trump's approval, by the way, today at 48 percent according to a new American Barometer Poll. The voters know reality and they're tuning out the rest of this stuff. It's kind of white noise, background noise to them. They can see the impact of this presidency. Every day they can feel the impact in their book, they feel it in their lives, and that's the Angle. Joining me now for reaction is Dan Bongino, host of the Dan Bongino Show podcast, Dave Bossie, former deputy campaign manager of President Trump's campaign and co author of `Let Trump be Trump', and of course Richard Goodstein a Democratic Strategist and former advisor to Bill and Hillary Clinton, great to have all of you on. Richard your reaction. RICHARD GOODTSEIN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well first, for your viewers, there were two more recent polls. One, the Quinnipiac Poll with the president's approval of 38 and the Marist Poll which had him at 39. Worse in the Quinnipiac poll, the questions was, "Does the president stand up for U.S. interests?" 54 percent said no, 41 percent said yes. INGRAHAM: What do you think? What I'm saying Richard, simple question for you. I know you're here and you're going to say Trump sucks, Trump sucks. You're going to say that but listen for just a second. You see him up there with EU Commissioner right? You guys were out there saying that this thing was going to tank, that the tariffs was going to tank things. He stood up there with the EU Commissioner and they stood together and they said, "We're going to work together, we're going to lower tariffs" That was a victory and for anyone Democrat or Republican or Independent to claim anything other than that was the president standing up for America is false and fraudulent so I hope you're not about to do that on this show tonight, I don't care about your Quinnipiac. GOODSTEIN: No, no. It's a victory in the same way that him standing with Kim in North Korea and saying, "We have denuclearized INGRAHAM: The EU is Kim? What? GOOSTSEIN: No I'm, saying it's empty. Just like the Kim deal was empty, this is a promise to talk about promising to do it INGRAHAM: No they're already made concessions on soy beans. Yes they did, it was announced. Dave Bossie, you've got that wrong. GOODSTEIN: I don't think so. DAVID BOSSIE, FORMER TRUMP DEPUTY CAMPAIGN MANAGER: This president campaigned as an America first president, that is what he has done. He's done it on trade, he's done it on foreign policy, he's done it on the economy. This president has decided, "I'm going to take on these unfair tariffs and these bad trade deals which have been on America for the last 30 or 40 years after I build a strong economy" And that's we have. This president, unlike nay president in recent past had done `America first and America only' and he's stood tall in the world doing it. INGRAHAM: Richard you're going to get another chance to come back at me because I came at you pretty hard. But Dan Bongino, Friday's GDP, that number you get the sense it's going to be very high, four percent plus. Anyone know on this table last time we had a four percent GDP? GOODSTEIN: Yeah Obama 2014. INGRAHAM: OK four percent GDP it was projected that he was going to tank the economy, Mark Cuban and all these people predicting economic Armageddon under Donald Trump. Dan Bongino to hear people claim that this president is asleep at the wheel. He's playing a reality game here, he doesn't know what he's doing is preposterous. Look at what happened today and we're going to have more news on China by the way, but go ahead. DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Yeah I love it Laura, keep underestimating him folks, Richard you too, it's working so well for you. Didn't you give him zero percent chance of winning in the Washington Post, Donald Trump before the election? I remember that Washington Post headline by the way. Hey listen folks here's the deal, new rules OK, new rules. The Democrats for eight years attacked us with the most vicious identity politics known to man. Nobody gives a crap about Michael Cohen, nobody gives a damn about this president's personal behaviour. Here's the new rules. Now it's about winning, it's about winning on taxes, it's about winning on your business, it's about winning on a prolife judge agenda, saving infants in the womb. It's about saving your healthcare, it's about saving the education system, it's about doing the right thing for once with this government. You wat to focus on a tape recording with a sleazy lawyer who taped his client. You go right ahead, knock it out, we'll be looking at a landslide in 2020. But make no mistake, the new rules are here, it's about winning. And again, for all the never Trumpers out there, "Oh we're sacrificing our principles here" No BS, this is the first president since Reagan actually in the White House fighting for our principles so spare me the crap moral lectures. Save it for someone who give a damn and it ain't me. INGRAHAM: Yeah when I hear Paul Ryan talking about, "I'm for other tools" I'm sorry I had to burst out, what is he talking about? This can't be an idea that there are other tools like Reagan and Bush and Clinton and Obama didn't talk to the Europeans about having better trade, they did. They talked and talked and got nowhere. BOSSIE: Donald Trump policies were going to cause the sky to fall, us to have a recession and us to go to war across this globe. None of those things have happened. That's what the Democratic Party stands for, the negativity, the hate. They hate this president more than they love this country. INGRAHAM: They despise him, they despise him. Richard. GOODSTEIN: A couple of things. I give Trump credit for going after the Chinese who have been getting away with murder, no question about it. But for example, they're getting away with murder on aluminium for example, but why put tariffs on the EU, Canada, Mexico, countries that are not responsible for this OK so it's just a little misplaced. INGRAHAM: That's what they are but that's. We can do trade for an hour and I'd beat you on that too. GOODSTEIN: Here's why I think his numbers are dropping below 40. Truthful hyperbole doesn't work. You can't say to the public would and the next day wouldn't and expect everybody's going to fall for it. People are now getting wise to it. You can't say INGRAHAM: I don't think that was held very well, I've said that. I agree with that. GOODTSEIN: You can't say you didn't have an affair with these people and it comes out on tape that you did. You just can't get away with it. INGRAHAM: Yeah. Well we do know Bill Clinton said a lot of things that ended up not being true. He also went out as one of the most popular presidents in the 1990s so Republicans overplayed their hand on the Clinton impeachment. David Bossie and I around then, we were part of that pay ride but the American people, they said, "Look the economy's great" GOODSTEIN: I remember. INGRAHAM: He worked together with Gingrich, look like things, welfare reforms, they actually accomplished stuff. So I agree if that's all there was, all that chaos then I think Richard would have a point. He is right though Dave Bossie, that look the Independent's down seven points down Republicans. People who identify themselves as Republicans shrinking. Poll came out tonight, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, numbers are way down for Trump, not where he wants them to be. So that's not good, so we've got to not get distracted on this other stuff. BOSSIE: I totally agree with you. However, these are polls based on minutes and hundreds of hours of anti Trump media, the media bias that is pervasive across the newspapers and televisions that the American people consume every day. That's why the president goes straight to the American people and tries to speak directly to them. Whether it's using Twitter or speaking directly to them like he did today in the rose garden. But this what he is up against. He's up against Hillary Clinton who will not accept defeat right. Didn't accept the results of the elections nearly two years later or the Democrats Party who hates them and wants to delegitimise him INGRAHAM: A lot of Republicans don't like him either. They hate these tariff because their future lies, you know what going to call a lot of these people? Corker doesn't need the money, he's already rich but a lot of these other guys? Future lobbyist Ryan, future lobbyist Flake. Sorry I mean I might be uncharitable but I imagine they'll be doing dome lobbying, that's my sense. Bongino I want you to listen to an exchange. Sec def Mike Pompeo, I always call if secretary of defence, secretary of state Mike Pompeo was on Capitol Hill, he was grilled by the senate. Watch this exchange. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY (D) CONNECTICUT: How do I know the difference between a presidential statement that is not a policy and a statement that is? MIKE POMPEO, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: Senator here's what you should look at. Compare the following, Barack Obama speaking tough on Russia and doing nothing. MURPHY: That's not true. POMPEO: It is true. MURPHEY: I understand you want to rewrite the Obama policy on Russia but that's simply not true. He organised all of Europe and all of the world POMPEO: OK let's go senator. The man said he would have more flexibility after elections. MURPHEY: I'm not listening, my question isn't about, I know you want to turn constantly back to Obama. POMPEO: I'm just looking at the facts senator. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: At that point Chris Murphy then kind of gave up. "Can I buy a vowel?" I mean this guy's actually fighting back. Your reaction, they're trying to distract, you know Putin owns Trump just giving all the way to Moscow. It just seems Micky Mouse to me. I'm not saying the Trump administration has handled everything right, I think they did not handle the post Helsinki right, I do not think that. I would have just said, "Look, I want a better relationship with Putin, I want a better relationship. Put me on a cross, that's what I want" I would have said that, I wouldn't have apologised, I wouldn't have done any of that stuff. It wouldn't have achieved changed the wouldn't would. Nevertheless it looks like Panny Annie stuff up there on Capitol Hill. Most people they're wallets are getting thicker. BONGINO: Yeah but Laura you know what's interesting about this is the Trump administration isn't saying they handled everything right. He came out the next day, he corrected it. He made a course correction and I ask the American people candidly, it's an honest question, "Do you want a president under Barack Obama who was honestly weak and then weak in action? Or do you want a president like President Trump who goes out again, he's talks candidly, he doesn't always use a teleprompter. Sometimes that requires him to dial a few things back" Which he has but then who acts in a strong pro America fashion. What's our choice? I mean is this a serious choice? Obama talked weak, acted weak and basically subverted American values on the international stage. Now you have a guy, all right so he has to correct some things once in while, that's fine. Look at what he's actually doing, that's what should matter. And you know this is all showmanship up on Capitol Hill. It was ridiculous, I watched the whole thing today. INGRAHAM: Richard the Dow is up 38 percent since the election. SMP is up 33 percent, NASDEQ's up 52.7 percent. Don't you wish you bought the futures back then? Russel 2000 up 41 percent. Wining, winning. Look at those numbers, God that makes me happy. GOOSDSTEIN: One final thing if I can, as regards weakness to say that a former KGB head Putin, gets more deference than our intelligence community, that's weak. Sorry, that's not projecting weakness, that's inviting other corrupt governments to take a run at us. I'm sorry. INGRAHAM: Do you know what the size of the Russian economy is by any chance? GOODSTEIN: I know it's 30th in the world. I know it's nothing. INGRAHAM: Right. You guys are all worked up about it like he's wearing underwear with a hammer and sickle on it. It's just he wants to get along with Russia because he thinks we're going to get something for Israel, In Syria, in North Korea and we need Russia's help to triangulate against China. We need it, that's where we need Russia. BOSSIE: Russia, Russia, Russia. GOODSTEIN: The Quinnipiac Poll says that people think he's doing this with Putin because they think the Russians have dirt. BOSSIE: That's because the Democrats have been feeding the American people lie after lie, night after night. GOODSTEIN: We willl find out when Mueller's done. We will, I really think we will. INGRAHAM: All right. Well you guys fantastic segment and I just said to Richard I love his suit tonight, isn't that a beautiful suit? Look at his eyes blue eyes, blue tie. Oh you look fine you other two. You both all look great tonight. House Republicans have officially filed, get this, articles of impeachment against deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein, gulp. The two congressmen leading the charge, Meadows and Jordan join me exclusively. What comes next? You'll find out. INGRAHAM: The battle between House Republicans and the justice department over the Russia probe is rapidly intensifying this evening. A group of republican congressman have filed articles of impeachment against Deputy A.G. Rod Rosenstein arguing that the D.O.J has not complied with the nine months of oversight requests for documents tied to the investigation. Joining us now exclusively to tell us what's next, Congressmen Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows who are spearheading the effort. We're also joined by Fox News anchor and author of the new fantastic book big bestseller `The Russia Hoax" Gregg Jarret. Congrats Greg on the book, great to have you on. Congressman Meadows let's start with you. What are accusing Rod Rosenstein of specifically? CONGRESSMAN MARK MEADOWS (R) NORTH CAROLINA: Well really for nine months we've asked for documents and that's all we want are the documents and what we're saying is not only have subpoenas been ignored but information has been hidden. The efforts have been made and stonewalled. And for us it's about transparency so the American people can judge for themselves. And so they may be able to ignore congress but they can't ignore the American people. INGRAHAM: This is what Andy McCarthy wrote in Natinal Review. He said, "Rosenstein and Ray" Chris Ray FBI Director, "Work for Trump. They're not Obama holdovers, they're Trump appointees. If they're defying congress it's because the president is permitting them to do so. The president is empowered to give his subordinates a direct order to comply with congressional demands and to fire them immediately if they fail to do so" He's kind of looking down on this idea. Congressman. CONGRESSMAN JIM JORDAN (R) OHIO: We've sent a letter to the president, Mark myself and Congressman Desantis saying declassify the information, get us all the information. INGRAHAM: Have you ever spoken to him about this? Why won't he declassify these? JORDAN: We sent a letter several weeks ago but the bottom line is we have sent numerous letters to Rod Rosenstein that he hasn't complied with. Two subpoenas that he hasn't complied with. We've got the department of justice hiding information, redacting information that they should not have redacted. We know that Rod Rosenstein threatened House Intel staffers, threatened them chilling impact when they were trying to do our job of doing the congressional oversight of what we're supposed to do. And we all know what the justice department did with the dossier. Never forget Rod Rosenstein signed the third renewal, signed that which was based on the dossier which we know parts of it came from Bruce or a high ranking official, through his wife, we know the whole ordeal Nelly, the whole ordeal. So we're tired of the justice department giving us the finger and not giving us the information we're entitled to do our constitutional duty. More importantly the American people are sick of it, that's why we've filed the resolution. INGRAHAM: In just a moment I'm going to ask you what House leadership including outgoing House speaker Paul Ryan is saying about all this. Greg Jarret I want to go to you. This is what happened on Capitol Hill just recently when Congressman Jordan was trying to question Rod Rosenstein, let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JORDAN: Mr Rosenstein why are keeping information from congress? ROD ROSENSTEIN, DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL: Sir I am not keeping any information that from congress that's it's appropriate to JORDAN: In a few minutes Mr Rosenstein I think the House of Representatives is going to say something different. ROSENSTEIN: I don't agree with you congressman. I don't believe that's what they're going to say, if they do it will be mistaken. JORDAN: I think, I think (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: No love lost between the Republicans on Capitol Hill and Rosenstein. Gregg what's going on? Do you think this idea if an impeachment vote if they can get one is a good idea? GREGG JARRET, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Absolutely, Rosenstein has treated congress with nothing but contempt and should be held in contempt and impeached if appropriate. This is a guy who has been covering up from the very beginning for nine long months the origins of the Trump Russia hoax. As I argue in my book, he and others never had any evidence of collusion. There was no evidence of crimes or intelligence to justify a counter intelligence probe. Rosenstein is the guy who put his signature on a document to renew the wiretap warrant application and he knew that that was a fabricated phony document. He didn't present new evidence as the law demands and he vouched for his authenticity when he knew it was unverified and fabricated and that is a fraud on the court and abuse of power. INGRAHAM: Mark Meadows it's been 122 years since a member of the executive branch has been impeached. That's a long time. MEADOWS: That is a long time. INGRAHAM: Obviously I'm not talking about the president but an executive branch employee other than the president. Paul Ryan doesn't strike me as the kind of guy on his way out, long good bye form Paul Ryan, who would be keen on this. How do you get a vote on impeachment without getting Paul Ryan's nod here? MEADOWS: Well certainly we hope that it doesn't have to come to that. Obviously this is the first step tonight but it doesn't require consent from the speaker. It's a privileged motion so what we put in today was non privileged. It goes in and gets referred to the judiciary committee but starting tomorrow we can bring it up as a privilege motion. INGRAHAM: What does that mean for people who don't understand that? MEADOWS: And I'm glad you asked because it really means that it would require of a vote on the House floor within two days and that's something that any member of congress, Jim or I can do. And quite frankly it's either we hold him in contempt or we get the documents or we impeach him and the only thing that we have control over is the ability to bring impeachment straight to the floor. INGRAHAM: Congressman Jordan any concern that this will divide the GOP before the midterm elections? I mean the freedom caucus has kind of an interesting relationship with most of congress and it's not a necessarily positive one at times. I mean I'm with you on most of the issues a lot of Republicans are like, "Oh my God the freedom caucus" Every time they hear freedom caucus they're like they're MEADOWS: Yeah we don't get that back home, by the way INGRAHAM: Yeah back home they love what you do. JORDAN: It doesn't divide the Republicans across this country, it doesn't divide INGRAHAM: So you don't care who you offend on Capitol Hill by doing this? JORDAN: We care about doing the right thing. It might have been 120 years since someone's been impeached but when was the last time you ever saw the FBI take a disproven document with no credibility, no validity, no corroboration. Take it to the secret court not tell the secret court who paid for it, not tell the court that the guy who wrote it had been leaking information to the press. And not just once four stinking times and the last one Rod Rosenstein signed so if that's not enough to force the action as Gregg just talked about in contempt or impeachment, you tell me what is? Tell me what is? Because I can't figure it out. Look, we started this a year ago in July asking for documents, we started sending letters last November. INGRAHAM: Which documents in particular? Scope of which documents? JORDAN: All of them. We got a subpoena with nine different things, they're not in compliance with three of the elements in that subpoena issued by Bob Goodlatte on March 22nd after we first asked for them in letters. INGRAHAM: Are there state department documents that you guys have wanted that you haven't gotten? JORDAN: We do now. We found out worse documents are INGRAHAM: Something was going on MEADOWS: We found just in the last few hours found out about that. So here's the thing is, why do we have to dig so deep find out information that should come free flowing if we're really interested in justice? INGRAHAM: And Gregg let's go back to May when Rosenstein really got his back up. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Any reaction to the news that certain members of the House Freedom Caucus has talked about drafting up articles of impeachment? ROSENSTEIN: I can tell you that there have been people who have been making threats privately and publicly against me for quite some time. And I think they should understand by now the department of justice is not going to be extorted. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Extorted. Every time I hear that I can't believe that's a deputy attorney general. Jeff Sessions, bad choice on him. JARRETT: Yeah this is a very vindictive man. I was the first to report actually that he threatened individuals on the Intelligence Committee. I reported it in early February. How did I report it? I talked to two people who were in that meeting. They both felt that he was threatening them to get his hands on their emails and texts and telephone records if they didn't back off this investigation. That is the kind of guy that Rod Rosenstein is. He is presiding over an investigation in which he is a key witness and refuses to disqualify himself even though it's mandatory. You can't be a prosecutor, a witness, an investigator, and the judge all rolled into one. It's a violation of the regulations and the code of professional conduct for lawyers. INGRAHAM: Mark Meadows, before we let you go, what next for this? Within two days, you could have a vote? REP. MARK MEADOWS, (R) CHAIRMAN, HOUSE FREEDOM CAUCUS: Yes, hopefully tonight there is a whole lot of discussion going on. I've had conversations with the speaker's office. We are hopeful that we get some documents that we identified today. But if not, as soon as tomorrow, we can do a privileged motion that would require a vote in two days. I think the American people are tired of talk. Just like Jim was talking about, they want action. And it's up to Rod Rosenstein. INGRAHAM: Is Kevin McCarthy with you on this? REP. JIM JORDAN, (R) HOUSE FREEDOM CAUCUS: I haven't talked to Kevin. I haven't talk to him. The people are with us, that's what matters. INGRAHAM: All right, guys, great to have you both on. The Russia hoax, get this book, Gregg Jarrett did a fantastic job. You want to understand a very complicated story and a total scam and waste of time for this country, read Gregg's book. Gregg, thanks so much. And by the way, the president has a star on the Hollywood walk of fame, and it's been smashed to pieces. That's the state of affairs. They can't even stand to see his name in marble. The P.C. fallout coming up. Raymond Arroyo is with us. Don't go away. INGRAHAM: It is time for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we expose what's going on behind the big cultural stories of the day. President Trump's star now on the Hollywood walk of fame was smashed to pieces early this morning. But that may not be the most upsetting fact about the incident. For more we are joined by FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series Raymond Arroyo. This isn't the first time Trump's star has been defaced. RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Sadly, it is not. Multiple defacements. This star has been defaced more than Cher. Austin Clay, this guy, 24-year-old today, he walks in with a guitar case, opens it, there is a pickax inside. He wails on the star. Now, this is nothing original. It happened in October of 2016. We have got video of it. There have been multiple defacements of the star. They put stickers on it. They put marks a lot on it. People have, you remember George Lopez a few weeks doing -- INGRAHAM: Urinated on it. Thank God we don't have that video. ARROYO: We don't have that to share -- INGRAHAM: It's like a construction site. Why do they have fluorescent vests? Those are people fixing it. ARROYO: When you step back and look at it, it's an impulse to destroy, eradicate anything that offends you or that you disagree with. And this idea, this mentality, has slipped into other areas of Hollywood. Look at James Gunn. James Gunn is the multi, $100 million director of the "Guardians of the Galaxy" franchise. Disney fired him last weekend. They found tweets from seven and 10 years ago where he made fun of child rape, pedophilia. Nasty stuff, but they instantly fired him. Now "The Hollywood Reporter" wrote a piece. I want to put this up. INGRAHAM: Oh, good, rehabbing him. ARROYO: Here's what they said, in firing James Bernstein, Disney hurts all of Hollywood. And this is what they said. But so long as there has been no actual criminal activity, there has to be a difference between who a person was and who a person is, and we have to allow for the fact that people can change. The stars of "Guardians of the Galaxy" have surrounded him. INGRAHAM: Chris Pratt came out. ARROYO: He issued a scripted quote. Here's the bottom line. If people can change, why wasn't this same mercy accorded to Roseanne Barr, to Amy Powell, who was head of Paramount television. She made a racially charged comment about an upcoming show, and they got rid of her instantly. I believe in redemption. I think people are going to make mistakes. But we see this idea that some offenses are instantly excommunicable, and they instantly drive you out. You are unemployable. INGRAHAM: You can't work ever. ARROYO: But some of this offensive speech, apparently, is not only accepted, but it's encouraged. This is a panel from this weekend's Comic- Con. Actress Zoe Kravitz in the Harry Potter spin-off "Fantastic Beasts" was asked this at a panel. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If you could use your magic in the real world for good, what would you do? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Impeach Trump. (LAUGHTER) (APPLAUSE) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wouldn't it be even better just to apparate him out of existence? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ban is really good at making up spells. What would be the impeachment spell? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. Impeacheous maximus. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: So I guess some speech, there were a lot of people at Comic-Con who felt, why did they have to politicize? INGRAHAM: Everything is political. ARROYO: Why do we have to politicize Harry Potter? INGRAHAM: First, of all, Comic-Con itself, that's the infantilization of adults. I was once in the same city where Comic-Con was. These are men and women in their 40s and 50s dressed up like Captain America, Wonder Woman. I don't like costumes. I'm not a costume person. I don't like costume parties. These are adults. These are parents, grandparents. ARROYO: Then you wouldn't have liked Johnny Depp who got up at the end of that panel you just saw at Comic- Con, and he appeared in costume as the villain he plays in the movie, a character who wants a racially pure wizarding world. Some thought this was a sly slap at Donald Trump. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHNNY DEPP, ACTOR: We live for freedom or truth, the moment has come to rise up and take our rightful place in the world. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: So, you see, apparently some offenses are acceptable. Others are not. I would just like to get the rulebook on what's instantly fireball or not. Amber Herd, Johnny Depp's ex-wife, charged him with abusing her during their marriage in the divorce decree. He was allowed to speak. W. B., J. K. Rowling, they defended him. They kept him on the film. But other people, they engage in the same behavior, they fire them instantly. Hollywood has to get it stories straight. It's selective morality. INGRAHAM: This Comic-Con thing and Johnny Depp gets me thinking. Could I apparate you? ARROYO: Me? INGRAHAM: Wow. ARROYO: Is this what you mean by "seen and unseen"? INGRAHAM: This actually works. This is great. If only Nancy Pelosi were here. Just a joke. ARROYO: Thanks a lot. Can you bring me back? INGRAHAM: No, you are gone. Aspirate or apparate? Despite abolish ICE protests sweeping liberal strongholds across the country, the agency is scoring huge wins in the fight against illegal immigrant crime. Details coming up. INGRAHAM: You might've heard that abolishing ICE he has become the cause du jour of the resistance, with the anti-ICE protests popping up in progressive cities from Philly to San Francisco. This demonstration at the ICE field office in Portland, Oregon, has been going on nonstop since June 17th. I hope they are taking shower breaks there. At the same time ICE is doing its job ensuring that illegals gunning down cops are brought to justice, like this man, 29-year-old Wisner Desmaret, a Haitian national, who faces eight felonies for shooting a Fort Myers, Florida, police officer in the head over the weekend. ICE slapped a detainer on Desmaret who is suspected to be illegal immigrant. So do you really want to protest this kind of work? The officer is still in very, very serious condition. We should note that, of course, Officer Jobbers is in critical condition tonight, and a great sign that he has begun to breathe on his own, and our prayers are with his family and him. It's a horror deal that he has gone through. Joining me for reaction is John Torres, former acting director of ICE during the George W. Bush administration, and immigration attorney Allen Orr. Gentlemen, tough stuff here. ICE and protests, shut down ICE, reform ICE. Allen, you are a Democrat, you're an immigration attorney. Protesting ICE when ICE is doing, frankly, God's work on this violent crime stuff, and this officer's family, they are devastated. Illegal immigrants almost killed him. Still not out of the woods yet. Your reaction? ALLEN ORR, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: First of all, on this specific case of the police officer, this is an aberrant story. It really doesn't happen that often. INGRAHAM: It doesn't happen that often? Is one police officer not too many? One American dead is not too many? ORR: It's an anomaly. INGRAHAM: It's an anomaly? If that were a member of your family, would you call that victim an anomaly? ORR: Absolutely not. INGRAHAM: You would not. So don't call a police officer an anomaly. ORR: I would call the situation an anomaly. Actually when a foreign national is involved in one of these incident, a foreign national is 10 times less likely to be involved in a crime than anyone else. And the concern around ICE is not with regards to what ICE is doing but who ICE is concentrating on. Right now ICE has been concentrating on those individuals such as the one you've talked about in the police case. They are doing low-hanging fruit. They are arresting people who are appearing in court, testifying in a crime, or people appearing to their ICE hearings or people who are just going to work day to day. So ICE really isn't focusing on the level they're supposed to be doing nationwide. That's the concern. INGRAHAM: Here are some facts. ICE arrests are rising. You say they're not doing real criminal arrests, and John, you can comment on this. Fiscal year 2018 thus far, 675 criminal arrests versus last year, 139. Seems like a fivefold increase to me. That's pretty good. Administrative arrests, 984, 172 in 2017. So they are doing both. They're doing admin arrests, criminal arrests. John, you were doing it. I get very emotional about this. I'm always as a criminal defense attorney, always suspicious of prosecutors. That's kind of my background. But when a police officer, a child, a woman, domestic abuse, child abuse, human trafficking, the things that we've seen done, I can't countenance, I can't abide by it. Anomaly, not anomaly, we shouldn't have one American brutalized by someone who shouldn't be here. They shouldn't be her. John? JOHN TORRES, FORMER ICE EXECUTIVE: Laura, I've been seeing this criticism for my entire career. I can think of a number of times where a police officer has been shot, and not only were they shot and killed or seriously wounded, but it was because they were in a community where they were not cooperating with ICE. And the police department ignored an ICE warrant, an immigration detainer, and let the person walk out of their jail. That same person later on goes and shoots a police officer. And next thing you know, we are getting calls from the city saying can you come in here and set up cooperation with us. We want to work especially on the criminals with you. Let's talk about those criminals. Last year, ICE arrested almost 33,000 people on criminal charges. They rescued or identified over 500 child victims, predators. They arrested -- I mean they identified or rescued almost 1,000 people related to human trafficking. Not talking about even the thousands of gang members that they arrest every year or the million pounds of illicit narcotics that they seize every year, or the nearly half a billion dollars that they seize in illicit financing. They do a lot more work than just immigration. And it's sad to me that the fine agents of ICE and Homeland Security investigations get painted with a broad brush and get accused of being -- INGRAHAM: It's very emotional, John. You've got families, mothers crying, separated from their children. The images are very heart-wrenching for Americans to see. I'm a mother. I don't want to see moms separated. That does play on the side, ICE is these bad guys. Let the family stay together. ORR: That's not a play, though, right, because once again, we're talking about the same thoughts. You're talking about police officers. Those are families. That's a woman's child. So those are the same -- INGRAHAM: What about the children in Nigeria who want to be here and they have to do with the legal way? We could play that game all day long, Allen. ORR: It's not a game because they are not here. We're talking about people who are actually here. INGRAHAM: They broke the law. People in Nigeria are applying legally to come here and they are waiting in line. ORR: It is very important to understand that asylum is a legal process. INGRAHAM: None of it is fraud? ORR: There may be some fraud involved in it. But those individuals are entering the lawful way so they require due process. You don't take a child away from a family, then say let me see if you're able to have the family. INGRAHAM: Do you think they should be deported together back to their home country, or do you think children should stay behind? I saw that argument made today by the ACLU that some children should have their cases litigated soberly from their parents which seems to fly in the face of family unification. ORR: I didn't see that specific case. I don't think they should have been separated in the first place. There should've been a total process where they came in, were able to file for asylum. They were either released -- INGRAHAM: Should they get Obamacare in the first month that they're here? ORR: None of those individual, there is no proof behind the fact that people are getting Obamacare. INGRAHAM: Should they? I'm asking you a question. If we're really going to be compassionate, Obamacare, recreational facilities, should they get those? ORR: I believe whatever benefits we give individuals that we have should be afforded, which we are already doing. It's $40 million so far. INGRAHAM: I just want to know how much you're willing to spend. Luis Enrique Monroy Bracamontes, 37-years- old, in 2014 killed two California police officers. He laughed when he's being sentenced. He looked into the cameras that were there and he laughed. He knew exactly what he was doing. I remember that case and it was brutal. TORRES: He said he wanted to kill more. He wanted to kill. INGRAHAM: And he said he wanted to kill more. So the idea it's an anomaly. ORR: What important is that all those cases, the fact that the person was undocumented is not an inherent part of the crime. It happens all the time that in the U.S. police let people go who later go on to do violent things. It happened in a couple of police shootings, school shootings recently. It's not inherent. The problem with releasing individuals is not inherent to the immigration question. INGRAHAM: They shouldn't be in the country in the first place. You do not have a universal right to emigrate to the United States illegally. I know some people believe that, but there just is no universal right. Our framers didn't intend it. Our founders didn't intend it. The Declaration, the Constitution. There is a legal process, and if you don't follow the legal process you end up in criminal activity, you should banished from the country and frankly should never be able to come back to this country again. ORR: The problem is the Congress hasn't done anything for 10 years. INGRAHAM: There are laws on the books. They should do more. They should do more. Look, there's heartbreaking stories around the world. Everybody wants to come here. A lot of people want to come here. You can't bring everyone. Even, Bill Clinton, even Obama said that. Can't bring everyone. It's got to be a process. Great conversation. Didn't mean to jump on you there, but it's an issue we all care about. Student or spy? An incredible case of potential espionage by China at Duke University right after this this. INGRAHAM: When they say Russia, I say China. That's what I've been saying about the threat posed from China every time the left gets in a tizzy about the former Soviet Union. The latest example, let me tell you about 35- year- old Ruopeng Liu. Already a billionaire, Mr. Liu is dubbed by the Chinese, as the Chinese Elon Musk for his efforts to send people into space and his work on cutting edge projects like jet-powered surfboards. Sounds like a creative guy. Where is he getting all these ideas? Reports that Mr. Liu simply stole intellectual property from one of America's most well- regarded scientists, David Smith of Duke University. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We know that the Chinese have a shopping list of intelligence and technology that they target every year. We know that the research he took from Duke University was on that collection list, and we know that certain government officials and operatives met with him while he was in the United States. DAVID SMITH, DUKE UNIVERSITY: They came in and took pictures and measurements of all the equipment and actually sent that back to China is what I found. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Take measurements and send it back to China. Joining me now for a reaction is Dean Cheng, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation's Asian Studies Center. This is nothing new, but it still shocks me. He comes to Duke University, lawfully here. Suddenly he is a big billionaire back home and he has this cutting-edge technology from Dr. Smith. DEAN CHENG, THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION: Well, Mr. Liu basically said he came to Duke University specifically to work with that professor, that he had been following his work for years and he actually apparently brought several of his colleagues over as well to work on that -- INGRAHAM: How is this allowed? How do we continue to allow this, given how bad we've done, a job we've done to combat intellectual property theft in the United States? CHENG: So here's a couple of statistics to show you just how bad things are. There are 350,000 Chinese students in the United States. INGRAHAM: All paying cash. CHENG: Yes, that is part of why they are here, because for the university of California, they get $40,000 for a foreign student, only $13,000 for an in-state student. Is it any surprise that as a result there are six times as many now Chinese students at Berkeley, for example, than there were just 10 years ago? INGRAHAM: And 35 percent of all foreign students now in American universities are Chinese. CHENG: That's right. INGRAHAM: If you could devise a government policy on this, what would it look like? CHENG: I think there's a couple of things. One of the things, obviously if you're a professor who is taking government money or taking money from DARPA or DOD to do research, you obviously need to be very careful of who you accept even on work and projects that are not funded by DAPRA, because your computer system -- INGRAHAM: What is darpa? CHENG: DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency. It's the super high-tech secret warriors. INGRAHAM: I love the acronym in Washington. No one knows what they mean. I have to ask. CHENG: Absolutely. But the other thing we need to do is we need to basically promote STEM, science, technology, engineering, and mathematics research in the United States. One of the reasons why we bring in so many foreign grad students is that Americans aren't willing to study STEM and foreign students are. INGRAHAM: The liberal arts, everyone is doing environmental science. That's important. It's good. Psychology. Everyone, what major are you? I'm a psych major. Oh, OK. I majoring in English. OK. What are you going to do for work? How are you going to make money? CHENG: That's a fundamental problem. INGRAHAM: Ivanka Trump is doing a big push on STEM for girls which I think is really important. She is really spending a lot of time on that, pushing that initiative. That's critical. CHENG: Absolutely. But unfortunately you have professors, for example, at the University of Illinois, who are pushing -- you know what math is. Math is about grievance. It's about whiteness. INGRAHAM: Whiteness? Like a whiteboard that you are writing the equations on, but I still don't understand. CHENG: Foreign students come here wanting to do all the hard math and science and all that. American students, too many of them are being taught by professors whose attitude is, you know what math is about? Math is about oppression. INGRAHAM: Oh, my goodness, scary. Thank you so much. We will have you on again. This story is not going away. When we come back, Michael Avenatti is like a squatter who just will not leave your television, ever. And now his hypocrisy is bad enough to shatter it. We'll explain in a moment. INGRAHAM: Finally tonight, a man who spent the past few months living in a cable new studio has suddenly gotten camera shy. After demanding transparency from President Trump on his alleged relationship with porn star Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti somehow convinced a federal judge to block the media from covering his testimony about his law firm's bankruptcy. His firm has defaulted on millions of dollars in debt and has fallen way behind on payroll taxes, so the closing question tonight is, what are you trying to hide, Mikey? We are going to keep searching for the answer. Was he born with a microphone coming out of his chest? Was that a genetic condition? That's all the time we have this evening. But have no fear, I've got my wand. Shannon Bream and the "FOX News at Night" team are up next. Shannon? 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TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: The dessert thief. Man, I hope you won't. HANNITY: By the end of the week, I will tell the whole story. All right, Tucker. Good to see you. Great show. Welcome to HANNITY. It is the biggest political scandal in modern America history. The FISA warrant is now out, and yes, we on this program were right. The Trump campaign was spied on by Obama's Justice Department using Russian lies, bought and paid forward by the DNC, and Hillary Clinton to obtain a FISA warrant against Trump campaign associate Carter Page, all in an attempt to rig, steel, whatever adjective you want, a presidential election. Carter Page will join us in just a moment. Now, meanwhile, the mainstream media, they could care less about any of this as they have been peddling the American people lies, conspiracy theories, and anti-Trump hate since even before Donald Trump was ever elected. Instead, they are once again in panic crisis mode over the president's push to remove top security clearances from who? Many of the former deep state Obama era officials who propagated all of these Russian lies that were found in Hillary's bought and paid for a dirty dossier, and by the way, are still to this day politicizing and weaponizing the powerful tools of intelligence. It's all happening on fake news CNN, conspiracy TV MSNBC. In just a moment, we will be naming names, calling out comrade John Brennan and the leaker and liar himself, James Clapper. By the way, if you are friends, tell him to tune in. And also tonight, new details on how President Trump is countering the Iranian trip with a policy of, yes, you guessed it, peace through strength. And we're going to show you how some in the media actually now seem more sympathetic to this evil regime in Iran than to our own sitting president. It's pretty pathetic. And finally, while Democrats play politics on our southern border, President Trump is calling them out in a major way today. Stay tuned, our jam-packed news breaking opening monologue is straight ahead. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. The now infamous Clinton dirty dossier was the single key piece of evidence that was used in four FISA applications by the FBI in order to spy on Trump campaign associates and, of course, the president- elect, and now the President Donald Trump. Without the dossier, there would be no FISA warrant against Carter Page. He will join us in a few moments. This is an irrefutable fact. And, of course, we all know that this dirty dossier was created by a former foreign spy Christopher Steele who ultimately really was paid by Hillary Clinton and the DNC, all to dig up dirt and lies on Donald Trump. In other words, it was political op research, filled with all things Russian lies that even Steele himself has admitted was totally unverified and uncorroborated. And he even said at best, it was raw intelligence and only had a 50/50 chance of being true, most of which has now been totally debunked. And yet, it was passed off to you the American people and FISA court judges as real, credible evidence by top FBI, DOJ officials to obtain the FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign associate at the height of a presidential election in 2016. This is a national disgrace. This is an abhorrent abuse of power and very dangerous to our constitutional republic, all an attempt to turn the full force of your government against one person and of course, the people that supported him, Donald Trump with a vengeance. And this, by the way, all after top officials literally rig the investigation to save Hillary Clinton from certain indictments -- warranted indictments, necessary indictments, if we have equal justice under the law and equal application of our laws. So, tonight, it's time. We call on everybody to demand the release of all 589 pages of these FISA documents, unredact, everything possible and, of course, our god-given rights as Americans are now on the line here, if we are to remain a free society. Now, the mainstream media filled with all opinion. There's no journalism on the so-called news channels. They are supposed to be investigating our governments, holding them accountable and they're nowhere to be found. The biggest story in their lives, they totally missed it. And meanwhile, everything we've been reporting for well over a year has now been confirmed for you. Instead, you've got the media carrying water for their beloved Barack Obama -- in other words, finishing the job. They did eight consecutive years of kissing his ass. Why should they stop now? And as we speak, they are in full-on freak-out mode that several former high ranking deep state government bureaucrats all, who propagated the Russian lies found in Hillary's bought and paid for dossier might actually lose their precious security clearances. So, this week, rightly, the Trump administration announced that it was literally looking to strip top-secret government access from all those deep state actors you see on your screen, including Clapper, and Brennan, and Rice, Michael Hayden, and yes, James Comey and Andrew McCabe. And now, predictably, Democrats in the media -- they are once again peddling this move from President Trump as another oh, my gosh, earth- shattering, feign outrage moment, an unprecedented abuse of power. In other words, their typical daily Donald Trump freak-out. We've got the video proof. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The president wants to silence his critics, period. And maybe he thinks this is a way to do it. Maybe he can say, well, they don't know what they are talking about if they don't have clearance anymore. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The idea that the president would be revoking security clearance, not based on wrongdoing, just based on words is shameful. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, but -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm not comfortable with vindictiveness because to me, that's very dictatorship. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But that's his middle name. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He represents the opposite of the presidency of the United States. This threat sounds more like he leads Turkey or the Philippines, not like he leads the United States of America. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's be honest what this is about, Willie. This is an abuse of executive power. This is Erdogan's Turkey. This is not what the United States of America should be. REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA: This is so extraordinary, the last thing you want in intelligence is partisanship. REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: Make no mistake, that is the only thing that this is about is a cowardly action of someone who is afraid of criticism. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: By the way, the last guy is the biggest liar in the country. Did it occur to these people why a former official, no longer employed by the government, would still have top- secret clearance? They supposedly care so much about the dangers of Russia, Russia. Hillary Clinton paid for these Russian lies. It was nothing but a disinformation, propaganda campaign to manipulate the minds of the American people and steal an election. And the deep state help her every step of the way. Is that not abuse of power? You don't see the danger in this? And then you see the media, Democrats sticking up to the most corrupt people, their swamp friends that abused the power that we gave them, we the people? For example, one time CIA Director John Brennan hates Donald Trump, he is allowed to. He is a former communist. How he ever became a CIA director is unbelievable to me. He is also currently a paid hack over a conspiracy TV MSNBC, which is so appropriate. But during his time as the CIA director, Brennan actually leaked the contents of this dossier before the election to then Senator Harry Reid who then subsequently alerted the public and an open letter to James Comey. Really, the CIA director? Sounds like the Pravda, sounds like the KGB. After stepping down as CIA director, John Brennan took all of his hatred publicly on cable news, getting paid, which is OK. Even calling the sitting president of the United States a traitor, really? This one who leaked the Russian lies? Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: I think there's a big question, first of all, in term of those who are on Mr. Trump's national security team, whether they can continue to serve in good conscience, an individual who basically betrays his nation. What Mr. Trump did yesterday was to betray the women and men of the FBI, the CIA, NSA and others, and to betray the American public. And that's why I use the term that this is nothing short of treasonous, because it is a betrayal of a nation. He is giving aid and comfort to the enemy and it needs to stop. And Mr. Trump needs to understand that there are going to be consequences for him too. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: The press needs to report what we're going to put on the screen. It says -- this is CIA policy -- in the case of former directors, the agency holds their security clearance and renews it every five years for the rest of their lives. However, that's requires former CIA directors to behave like current CIA employees. Now what you just saw, does that seem like the behavior of a current CIA employee? Saying what he just said, calling the president of the United States a traitor? And this no way undermines the CIA's mission, really? What about him politicizing intelligence as an employee of NBC? That's pretty acceptable for a current CIA employee? I do not think so. And that brings us to the well-known leaker and liar himself, James Clapper. Remember, he's the former director of national intelligence, widely believed to have leaked details of the infamous dossier to CNN, where he is now employed. Fake news. And yet, CNN cannot imagine why such an honorable person like him would lose his security clearance. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: CNN national security analyst James Clapper, and given the partisan attacks on him, I just want to take a moment and walk you through his ample nonpartisan resume, served as director of national intelligence during the Obama administration. Before that, as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency under the first President Bush and Bill Clinton. General Clapper joining the Air Force in 1963, served two tours of combat during the Vietnam. He's the recipient of an Air Force Distinguished Medals, two Defense Distinguished Medals and three Distinguished Service Medals for National Intelligence. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: OK, Anderson, it was James Clapper who issued a directive that, quote -- in case you want to do some real research of news on your station -- when it is determined that access to classified information is no longer required, the department or agency shall terminate such access and debrief the individual. Oh, that is James Clapper's signature. He signed that in 2013, amazing piece of information. It was Clapper who was at the center of the Obama administration's effort to scrub the clearance list in order to avoid leaking. But, of course, no media meltdown over that action. And as we stated, it was James Clapper who likely leak the classified information to the media in order to, yes, rig the election, years after he authored and signed that, quote, memo. Unauthorized disclosures, he said, of classified information, including leaks of classified information to the media endanger vital intelligence sources and methods, and damage international relationships, aggressive action is required to better equip the United States government, elements to prevent unauthorized disclosures. So, it's clear that people like Clapper and Brennan and many other deep state sycophants, they should in no way, none of them have any access to our government secrets. As a matter of fact, we ought to -- they ought to all be under investigation, because their bias is so abusive clouded their judgment. They are the ones that stomped on the rights of the American people. They are the ones that tried to propagandize, misinform the American people, all to affect an election, and to this day, they still are, and to this day, breaking their own government policies that they signed off on. Every American tonight, you need to demand that they not only lose their special government privileges, but they need to be held accountable for their blatant abuse of power. By the way, Robert Mueller, are you watching? Do you have your people watching? Because this is your Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia collusion story. And, by the way, Jeff Sessions, where are you? Has anybody seen you? Except for school children? All right. Let's shift gears. Let's turn our attention to the hostile regime of Iran. Over the weekend, the president issued a stern warning to the rogue state, tweeting, quote: To the president of Iran, Rouhani, he said, never, ever threaten the U.S. again, or you will suffer consequences the likes of which few throughout history have ever suffered before. We are no longer a country that will stand for your demented words of violence and death. Be cautious. Now, per usual, this tweet sent off, yes, predictable widespread, breathless panic from the left-wing media, shocking. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He criticized several times Barack Obama and said, you just wait, he is going to start a war with Iran if he feels like he's on the political ropes. And so, that's in his head. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: With any previous president, if you woken up to this all caps tweet threatening war with Iran, you think he probably belongs in a padded cell, but with Trump, this is kind of business as normal. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Also just dominating the conversation the whole week, and he was hurting. So, let's distract with a new topic, in this case, it's Iran. Let's find a new foil that may be all of us will focus on and we'll forget that there was a summit in Helsinki last week. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But this strengthens them for Rouhani, for the foreign minister. This makes them look tough. People are rallying around them. So, this is actually strengthening the regime. COOPER: I mean, it is a classic move by President Trump to try to distract. And we have seen this time and time again, when things are not going well, you lob a Molotov cocktail in one corner of the room, and everyone runs over there. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, remember, these are the same people claiming that Trump was going to cause World War III because of his tough rhetoric against Kim Jong-un, little rocket man, our button is bigger than yours and works. Now, despite the never ending panic from his critics, President Trump continued his tough talk against the hostile Iranian regime. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I withdrew the United States from the horrible, one- sided Iran nuclear deal. (APPLAUSE) And Iran is not the same country anymore. That I can say. And we'll see what happens, but we're ready to make a real deal, not a deal that was done by the previous administration which was a disaster. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Somebody needs to remind the corrupt media Obama is gone, and the era of apology tours and appeasement is now over. No longer will the United States of America sit idly by as the Iranian regime is fighting proxy wars, chanting "death to America", disrupting the entire Middle East and funding terrorism throughout the world. And of course aggressively pursuing nuclear weapons and threatening all of our allies and this country. America must never allow these lunatics to develop nuclear weapons. All options must always remain on the table. And while the president puts Iran unnoticed, he also focusing on the critical part of our national security right here at home. Earlier today, he had very tough words for Democrats that literally want to eliminate ICE, in other words, protection of our southern borders, wide open borders, are they serious? Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: But Democratic politicians want to abolish ICE. They want to see open borders. Can you imagine? You know, every once in a while, you hear something, and usually you understand, like in deal-making, you always have to understand the other side. When you hear open borders, when you hear get rid of ICE, when you hear some of the things that they are proposing, it's like you can't even understand it. Can you imagine? Open borders, you'd have millions of people pouring into our country, millions and millions of people, many people that you don't want in our country. But you would have millions of people pouring into our country. The crime would be unbelievable. And they want to get rid of the crime fighter on top of everything else. Open the border and get rid off your crime fighters. You don't understand it. Nobody understands it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. With the 2018 midterms just a few short months away, it's clear that Democrats in this country have no real plan to improve America. Instead, they want to regain power in order to take more and more money. In other words, they want t their crumbs back. They want to take back the Trump tax cuts. They want to impeach President Trump. They want to preserve the disaster of Obamacare, open borders, stop Kavanaugh. And they obviously have -- we have a new addition to our list. They want to kill off all these legitimate investigations into what really happened during the 2016 election. The Obama era deep state corruption, the rigging of an election, the rigging of an investigation. Now, tonight, we have bad news for the Democrats and everyone else actively working against President Trump. Look at this Gallup poll, President Trump just hit the highest approval rating of his presidency. And according to "The Hill", three-fourths of Americans will never vote for a socialist. It should be 99.9 percent, but we'll get to that another night. I'll say it again, this is the most important midterm elections in our lifetime. Make your voices heard, the future of this country, our rights and future as a constitutional republic are at stake. All right. Also tonight, we have a big announcement later in the show and by the way, the Trump Cohen tapes are out, and we'll be giving you the details of that in just a minute. But, first, with reaction to our top story, the man at the center of it all, former Trump campaign associate, and he is the man mentioned in all four FISA applications, Carter Page. Good to see you. Thank you. CARTER PAGE, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN ASSOCIATE: Good to see you, Sean. HANNITY: OK. You went -- you told me a lot this week. You went to Russia a lot. PAGE: Yes. HANNITY: Spent years there. PAGE: Yes. HANNITY: How many times you have to go there and did you get debriefed by our intelligence agencies, CIA FBI, et cetera? PAGE: I lost track of time. You know, they -- whenever they asked questions, I was always ready to offer. HANNITY: And you love your country? PAGE: No question. HANNITY: Were you approached to be a spy? PAGE: Never in my life, no. HANNITY: How do you respond to the characterization of you in the FISA warrants? PAGE: You know, it's just an unhidden attack -- way of attacking the Trump campaign. I mean, it's very clear, particularly given, as you said, the connection with the dodgy dossier. So -- HANNITY: All right. So, let me -- so in June of 2016, you are still a Trump campaign associate at that point? PAGE: Yes. HANNITY: OK, you go to Moscow. Who specifically invited you to Moscow? PAGE: The university, New Economics -- HANNITY: No, who? Name, I want the name. PAGE: It was the rector. So -- HANNITY: Do you remember his name? PAGE: Shlomo Weber, he's the rector. HANNITY: Shlomo Weber. Why did Shlomo Weber invite you? PAGE: I have dealt with a lot of Russian scholars over the years. I did my PhD at the University of London, and I've spoken at most of the top universities in Moscow, New Economics School, Moscow State University, the MDMO (ph), all of them. HANNITY: OK. And all of this time, whenever your government asked to debrief you, you would tell them? PAGE: Absolutely. HANNITY: Did you work for the government? Our government? PAGE: Well, I served five years in the U.S. Navy. Absolutely. HANNITY: You know I am not asking that question. You're smart. Did you work for our intelligence agencies? PAGE: I was always -- you know, if they had questions, I was always willing to help out. HANNITY: I didn't ask if they had questions. Did you work for our intelligence agencies? PAGE: I was never paid. I was never paid for any intelligence. HANNITY: Were you given direction by our intelligence agencies ever if they wanted you to do things? PAGE: No. HANNITY: never? PAGE: No. HANNITY: They never when you were on the trip said, by the way, would you mind looking into this? PAGE: They said, you know, keep -- there was always an understanding that I would be an open book and willing to help. I think that there is so much misunderstanding I think as we saw in Helsinki last week that I was always ready and willing to provide some full details whenever -- HANNITY: How did Christopher Steele know you were there? PAGE: That's a great question. That's a great question. Well, you know, I think his piece came out after I had already left, and, you know, it had been in a few -- HANNITY: Who could have -- who could have informed Steele on that? Because that's an important question. PAGE: We'll see. You know -- HANNITY: Because of what they are saying about you, they are basically saying, well -- and by the way, if you are such a bad person, why are you here on this set and not in jail? PAGE: Again, "The Washington Post" -- they had a big leak that to last June that I spent 10 hours talking to the FBI. And, you know, again like I mentioned, I'm always willing to talk to, you know, our federal agents. HANNITY: Did you talk to Mueller's team? PAGE: You know, that's -- according to various leaks in "The New York Times" and "Washington Post" last year I supposedly did. I won't deny that. So -- HANNITY: Is there an ongoing investigation into you or is this hyperbole in the FISA warrants to get to Trump? PAGE: Those are old FISA -- I think that the last one ended -- HANNITY: Rod Rosenstein signed the last one. PAGE: In June, in June of 2017, yes. HANNITY: Uh-huh. What are your thoughts about that? Do you feel that they have taken away your rights? Will you sue the government? PAGE: I'm already suing the government in the Southern District of New York. I just want to $1 and some honesty. HANNITY: All right. Thank you for being with us. Appreciate it. PAGE: Thanks, Sean. HANNITY: All right. When we come back reaction, House Intelligence Chair Devin Nunes, a very big announcement and the Trump-Cohen tapes are released. That's coming up next. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with reaction to my opening monologue, my interview with Carter Page, is the House Intel Committee chairman, California Congressman Devin Nunes. Congressman, the memo now has been totally and completely corroborated by you and people like Adam Schiff to me have been proven to be one of the biggest liars in the country. I won't drag you into politics that the political commentary. Let me get your reaction. Number one, it was the bulk of information used to get a FISA warrant, Clinton's dirty dossier, full of Russian lies, you just heard Carter Page. Your thoughts? REP. DEVIN NUNES (R-CA), HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: Let's start with most people in the media never even bothered to read our three- page memo that was designed to be just a short compilation to protect sources and methods, because we only wanted to get out the main points. Which were what? That they used the dossier, the dirt from the Clinton campaign to make up the bulk of the FISA application. As a matter of fact, they lead with it in the FISA application. So, that's what we really wanted to get out to the American people, because we believe at that time that most Americans would agree, and I think that they would agree, if journalism wasn't so dead, as you said in your monologue. Most Americans, when you talk to them and they are not watching the other cable news networks, and you talk to them about is it OK for me as a politician to go out and pay someone to dig up dirt on my opposing candidate -- whether it is running for president, governor or president or something else and feed it to the FBI? An FBI that's controlled by my own party. That only happens in the banana republic. So, that was the point of the memo, and it's sad that the media has failed to cover it. But what's even more surprising now is now that we've been totally vindicated with the release of this FISA, just the pieces of the FISA applications over the weekend, you continue to see the media -- they're going absolutely crazy. And I have never seen anything like it. And I just -- I think your -- like you said, journalism is dead in this country and I don't know what to do about it. HANNITY: You know, what is ironic in all of this, if Hillary funnels money through a law firm, they hire an op research firm. I have no problem with op research. That's politics. And then they hire a foreign national. I thought foreign nationals weren't supposed to impact our elections. But the dossier, according to Steele himself, in an interrogatory in Great Britain, he says it's raw intelligence, never verified, never corroborated. But everybody that signed off on that warrant signed off on unverified, uncorroborated Russian lies that were literally designed to really steal an election after they rigged an investigation into what is irrefutable crimes incontrovertible evidence of obstruction and violation of the Patriot Act by Hillary. (CROSSTALK) NUNES: Well, if you could-- HANNITY: And I'm just wondering how does our -- how does our constitutional republic survive? NUNES: Well, it can't survive without a-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: If this happens here? NUNES: It cannot survive without a free and open press actually doing their job. So let's just talk about the obvious thing that is out there that you are alluding to, and that is that the very thing that the Mueller investigation is all about is to see if the Trump campaign colluded with Russians to get dirt on Hillary and use it against her. Now, we actually know that that is exactly what Hillary Clinton did. Hillary Clinton paid people with intermediaries that got dirt from Russians to use it against Donald Trump. HANNITY: Yes. NUNES: I mean, that's what happened. So let's start there, but then let's go with some of the other nonsense that you're seeing now. You actually have people out there in the media, mainstream media that are now talking about, well, the reds don't necessarily say that you have to verify all the evidence. Well, look, I think that is crazy talk. You absolutely should have to verify and validate the evidence that you are using to have probable cause when you go to a secret court to spy on an American citizen. HANNITY: But they fed the courts Russian lies bought and paid for by the opposition candidates and they purposefully didn't inform the court. NUNES: Then-- HANNITY: No one would ever approve these warrants if they knew the truth. NUNES: They went out of their way not to do it. So that's another point that they've been trying to make. So they went out of their way, instead of saying candidate two paid for this -- paid for this dirt on candidate one. Candidate two would've been Hillary Clinton. That would've been a very simple way to describe it in the FISA application for the judge. Now here is something that actually my colleagues, Mr. Gowdy and Mr. Ratcliffe from Texas who did allow these FISA warrants in his career and have the opportunity to look at this in quite detailed, he continually makes a point, which is a very good one. It's not so much how wrong it is and what they put into the FISA applications, that's really bad. But what's even worse is the exculpatory evidence that they left on the cutting room floor. HANNITY: Wow. NUNES: So, for example, for example, there is something really important, if you have the information that you have with Bruce Ohr, OK, who is at the heart of this, because his wife was working for Fusion GPS. The Bruce Ohr information, he knew that Christopher Steele didn't like Trump and didn't want Trump to win. The FBI had that-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That how they put it together. NUNES: That's right. HANNITY: What you did is to help this Democratic republic survive, I actually worry about this abuse of power, I worry about a corrupt media, we are not going to stop on this program. Thank you for all you have done, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. All right. When we come back we have breaking news, the Cohen-Trump audio is out. I'll give you a hint. A huge dud. Fud-dud straight ahead. HANNITY: This is a Fox News alert, Michael Cohen's recording of his former client, Donald Trump was never made public, this would obtained by CNN, given to them by Cohen's attorney, a long time friend of this program, Lanny Davies, Fox News has not verified the tape. Here's a clip, take a listen. It's muffled. (BEGIN VOICE CLIP) MICHAEL COHEN, FORMER DONALD TRUMP'S ATTORNEY: I need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend David, you know, so that I'm going to do that right away. I've actually come up on-- (CROSSTALK) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Give it to me. COHEN: I've spoken to Allen Weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with funding-- (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: So when do we get (Inaudible)? COHEN: Yes. And it's all the stuff, all the stuff, because you never know where that company or what he is going to do. (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: (Inaudible) by it. COHEN: Correct, so I'm all over that. And I spoke to Allen about it when it comes to the financing which will be-- (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: Listen, what financing? COHEN: We'll have to pay. No, no, I got it. (END VOICE CLIP) HANNITY: Here with reaction, Fox News investigative reporter contributor Sara Carter, former Clinton pollster adviser Mark Penn. Look at that, this book out today, the number one book in the country on Amazon.com right now "The Russian Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump" Fox News legal analyst, Gregg Jarrett. By the way, right after the show, Gregg is going to be hosting a live online book signing, he can obviously write it out to you and by the way, order a copy, submit a question, my web site Hannity.com. Congratulations. The number one in the country. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Thank you very much. HANNITY: You deserve it very much. And the president just tweeted about it, by the way. JARRETT: He did. HANNITY: Let's start with the tape. JARRETT: Yes. HANNITY: And I have known Michael, have been friends with Michael for a long time, and I'm a little bit surprised at a recording of a client, that surprises me. But with that said, as I look -- listen to all of this I'm listening to something that never happened. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: That it was a billionaire and they just do not want the divorce to come, the record is talking about, whose divorce is always usually ugly, right? JARRETT: Yes. HANNITY: And then they talk about, well, pay cash or check, it's muffled. JARRETT: Right. HANNITY: I do not see anything here, I see a dud. JARRETT: There is nothing illegal about paying somebody who wants money in exchange for remaining silent. I use to negotiate contracts all the time. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Aren't they called the nondisclosure? JARRETT: Yes. To make people go away and be quiet. There's nothing illegal about it. It's not a crime. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Do people do these deals whether it happens or not? JARRETT: Sure. Look, he is a billionaire, there is a fine line between somebody exercising their free speech to talk about you and extortion to remain quiet. HANNITY: Is it often cheaper for people to pay-- (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: It's the cost of doing business, I used to tell clients this all the time, it's sort of a nuisance settlement for a billionaire to pay $150,000. So he never paid a nickel, that's the important part to remember here. And whether there is a discussion about paying cash or check, nothing of it ever happened. HANNITY: So whatever the American Media Corporation-- JARRETT: Yes. HANNITY: -- does it matter that they bought a story and didn't use it? JARRETT: No, it's up to them. They bought the rights to it for all we know. HANNITY: Well, it is a campaign contribution. JARRETT: Donald Trump could have bought the right from them. I mean these things are negotiated among parties all the time. HANNITY: No legal issues at all? JARRETT: None whatsoever. It is not a crime. This is all just a red herring to spear the president about personal matters that have nothing to do with the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. HANNITY: Let me go to Sara, I listen to it closely, it sounds like a conversation between a lawyer and a client about just, you know, how do you deal with stuff that comes up in a campaign and not have big problems, but nothing happened? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: That's right, it's not very clear. But one of the things that I think was interesting was the way he was saying, Mr. Cohen was saying, no, no, no. It wasn't like no, we can't do that. I mean, if that's the assumption. He was saying, no, no, no, we are not going to do it that way. That's the way it came across to me. Now we don't know unless we talk to Mr. Cohen. HANNITY: Not do it in what way, well not do it that way. What does that mean? Is that talking about cash or a check? CARTER: Yes. So he was saying, no, no, not cash. That's the way it sounded. HANNITY: Yes. CARTER: But we have to talk, obviously Mr. Cohen has to speak. Lanny Davis did come out and talk to CNN and he said that he wanted to have his side of the story. But I'm kind of stunned like you are, Sean. The fact that the attorney would be recording this and apparently without his client's knowledge and then using this later, and it also shows how far they are willing to go to squeeze people to try to get something out of them. And this is a real smear campaign. Of course this was a decision that Donald Trump made 10 years ago. This is something that is coming out. I'm sure that it's publicly embarrassing for him and his family. And it's probably very difficult. But this appears to be-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: In other words, like when they are talking about we have a right to fight not to release the details of a divorce-- CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: -- if you were the president I don't think anybody wants that out. CARTER: That's right, nobody wants that out. And it appears, though, what's happening is that they are doing everything in their power to pressure Michael Cohen to get everything they can for him to fear--. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Kind of like squeezing Manafort putting the screws to him so that he'll sing or composed. CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: So that he'll then, you know, eventually the information can be used to prosecute or impeach Trump. It sounds like the-- (CROSSTALK) CARTER: That's right. HANNITY: All right. Let me go to Mark Penn. Mark, breaking news obviously, we had you on about a different issue. But you are a longtime Clinton pollster. You are one of the few Democrats, like our Alan Dershowitz that has looked at what has happened here as it relates to FISA warrants, lies paid for, unverified, to get warrants to spy on opposition party candidates and literally, even though it's unverified fed to FISA judges like it's gospel truth and how dangerous this is for this country. MARK PENN, FORMER CLINTON POLLSTER AND ADVISER: Well, I completely agree, I think that this is an incredible violation of an American civil liberties that the dossier was seen as credible evidence to use a secret court which is really for parodying out terrorists to spy on Americans in American political campaigns. And the only thing worse than that now is devolving back to 1998 and now spending a year investigating payments to people whether or not they had affairs or not. This is bringing this country down. HANNITY: Do you really, I honestly have never seen it this bad. I mean, if Donald Trump cured cancer and gave every American $10 million, I am convinced the media would still hate him. Even if he adopted their full agenda, they would hate him. There's not -- it's like if Donald Trump tweets a single word that they do not like, they're like hyperventilating all over the media. PENN: Well, it is rather remarkable, when you look at the NBC poll that basically, NC says well, they disagree with everything he's doing and his job rating goes up. His first-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: The Gallup by the way, his highest Gallup rating. You're right. PENN: It is incredible, so something else is going on in the country. HANNITY: And you're a pollster. PENN: The polls really have to -- I'm a pollster, and something else is going on in the country, there is several narratives going on at once and too often only one side of that narrative, there is a very strong economy. People want a country that stands up. Yes, they don't like his tweets, yes, there's a lot of stuff they don't like. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Do you see a blue wave or do you see a no way? PENN: There's a blue edge. HANNITY: Do you see a blue wave in your poll? PENN: Look, there is a blue edge. Anybody-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It should be. PENN: -- and anybody after two years, you know, usually Congress turns over, there is still a blue edge, but remember Trump is actually stronger than people think. The economy is stronger than people think. I think this misjudging this hysteria that's going the socialist is in fact hurting the Democrats-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: No, no, no, they are doing the right thing, they should stay exactly on the path they're on. PENN: I knew that you would say that. HANNITY: Al right. So where does the tape go, I know it will be, you know, the next hyperventilating moment of the media. But if there's no there- there, what's the point? JARRETT: Well, there is no point. It is irrelevant. HANNITY: Do you think they are trying to pressure Michael Cohen that much that they're trying to -- because I didn't like it-- (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: To me it is a sign of desperation. HANNITY: I think what they did to him and his office, there is something that does not seem right in any of it! JARRETT: I agree. These are rather thuggish tactics, but it doesn't surprise me now coming from the federal government and the FBI and Robert Mueller. They're all using pretty much the same tactics. HANNITY: Your door is next step. JARRETT: Yes. Or your door. HANNITY: Why my door, why don't they go to Sara's house? (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: They've been listening to all your conversations. The text messages and -- I mean, I actually I told my wife, I operate on the assumption that I'm being monitored. HANNITY: This is the United States! JARRETT: Yes. It's hard to say-- (CROSSTALK) CARTER: That's what driving assumption. JARRETT: But we are now in a position of being afraid of our own government. HANNITY: Sara? CARTER: I have to agree with Gregg on this, and I have to agree with you, Sean. I mean, they're pressuring Paul. They did to Paul Manafort. Look at what they did to George Papadopoulos, look at what they did to General Flynn. This is another strong arm tactic and that's what they are trying to do and they are desperate. HANNITY: Yes. I got to tell you, it's really unbelievable to me. Hang on as this breaking news. Anyway, by the way, Rudy says that the transcript we provided CNN accurately reflects the conversation. So they don't care. CARTER: Yes. HANNITY: They should not legally. All right, in 13 minutes from now, Hannity.com, Gregg will sign the number one book in the country. He'll sign it to you, if you have any questions, Hannity.com. He will be able to answer it. Congratulations, we are proud of you. JARRETT: Thank you. HANNITY: This is a great book. JARRETT: Thank you. HANNITY: Well done. And you did it all yourself. JARRETT: I did. HANNITY: Dr. Gorka and Dan Bongino, and by the way, we have a big, big, big announcement. It will surprise you. I promise you that. Next. HANNITY: All right, Michael Cohen has just released a once secretly recorded conversation between he and Donald Trump to CNN, Fox News not independently verified the tape, Fox News -- joining us now is national security strategist Dr. Gorka, former Secret Service agent and NRA TV contributor, Dan Bongino. I have known Michael a long time, I like Michael, he has a lovely family. I honestly think that what they have done to him is wrong, I was not a client of his although, I did ask him legal questions on, we used to talk privately, and -- but we didn't have a business relationship. Just to be totally transparent. I think what they did to him is wrong. I read this tape and I don't see any there-there. It seems like a dud. And I don't know what these other 11 tapes are about. What's your reaction, Dan? DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRA TV: You know, Sean, I don't know Michael Cohen, I've never met him, but I'm sorry, this is straight up sleazy. You know, one thing that I know from people who've worked for Donald Trump, and I know a lot of them is that they will tell you this, he is fiercely loyal to his people. He does not pretend to be a saint, but he is ferociously loyal to his people. It's really ridiculous that this guy was giving them legal advice and then recording them and then releasing the tapes. And one more thing, Sean, he better be damn sure Donald Trump was in New York for all those calls where one party consent state, because if he was in Florida or Mar-a-Lago on one of those 12 calls, Florida is a two-party consent state. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Does that matter if-- BONGINO: And Cohen may have committed a crime himself. HANNITY: Does that matter if the (Inaudible) from a long party consent state though? BONGINO: It matters to who you are recording, yes, if Donald Trump was in Florida and Cohen was in New York, you cannot record without his consent. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know what, let me just say this, I'm assuming, and I don't know why he recorded them, but I'm assuming that Michael Cohen never thought his office was going to get raided either. And he was not going to release this on his own, Dr. Gorka. BONGINO: You know-- SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: Yes, I can't talk for Michael Cohen. I have never met him either. Let's talk about the broader reality here. CNN still doesn't get it. Donald Trump is the president and CNN has lost the plot. Instead of actually being a news organization, and they can report on the fact that according to a Wall Street Journal/NBC poll, Donald Trump is the highest approval rating in his 18th month than any president-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Dr. Gorka, you know what, Barclay's they up to their estimate for GDP growth for the second quarter-- (CROSSTALK) GORKA: Yes, I know. HANNITY: -- to 5.3 percent. GORKA: That was my next point. That was my next point, Sean. So, instead of talking about GDP predictions that affect all Americans, instead of talking about the president's historic popularity with one exception, George Bush after 9/11. They are talking about this tape that says nothing. I mean, what is it going to be next, Sean? Is it going to be a secret video of Baron Trump's first birthday party and he's eating cake? They are making a mockery of themselves. HANNITY: But as I said, I think if he cured cancer, Dan, they would still hate him. BONGINO: You know, Sean, wait till the GDP numbers come out on Friday. If we hit 5 percent, a figure that we have never hit. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: We are at 4 percent, absolutely. Listen, the previous president in eight years is the only president never to have 3 percent GDP grow in a year -- GDP growth. BONGINO: He's never had, and you are absolutely right. You are absolutely correct, he's the only president in modern U.S. history to not do that. Not one annual year at 3 percent GDP-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Yes. Now we have more jobs available than people on unemployment. Two million fewer people on food stamps, yes, America is back. All right. Thank you both. Big announcement, next. HANNITY: Al right. We have a huge announcement. On Thursday night at 9 p.m. Eastern, Roseanne Barr will speak out and join us for an exclusive interview. You don't want to miss that. Thursday at 9 p.m. All right. In 15 seconds, if you go to Hannity.com, you can see our friend Gregg Jarrett, it's the number one book in the country. A great book. We will always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. There she is. Load-Date: July 25, 2018 End of Document Interview with Former White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus; Recording of Phone Call between President Trump and Michael Cohen Released; White House Reportedly Considering Revoking Security Clearances for Former Government Officials; Interview With Rudy Giuliani Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST July 24, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8874 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Reince Priebus, Matt Schlapp, Chris Hahn, Mike Baker, Rudy Giuliani, Alan Dershowitz; Sol Wisenberg Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: There she is. What wise acre comment do you have, Ms. Ingraham? Well go ahead, hit me. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Wait, you have something very special on Thursday, and it is Roseanne who gave one of the most hilarious interviews earlier this week. I'm sorry but I screamed laughing. I thought she was acting it was so funny. HANNITY: I think she probably was. Everybody forgets Roseanne used to be a stand-up comic. But she wants a chance to explain all of this and we're going to give her that chance. INGRAHAM: Hannity -- apparently, Hannity, only the liberals can say really wrong off color mistaken things, awful things. HANNITY: By the why, have you defended Bill Maher on your show? INGRAHAM: Yep. HANNITY: I did notice he defended you. He never defended me, ever. I defended him since he was on ABC. INGRAHAM: Yeah, people make mistakes. HANNITY: I think people have the right to be really stupid. Or some people make comments and want to apologize and no one wants to accept an apology. INGRAHAM: Right, it's ridiculous. HANNITY: And I think it raises a lot of important questions about the world we live in, and we will deal with it. By the way, in case you have nothing to talk about tonight, another slow news night? INGRAHAM: No, we have a lot going on. Hannity great show as always. HANNITY: Have a good show. INGRAHAM: All right. Good evening. I'm Laura Ingraham. This is the INGRAHAM ANGLE. Ahead on a cannot miss hour, if you haven't been watching television tonight, you haven't been watching HANNITY, you didn't know it was released an hour ago. Rudy Giuliani will be joining us shortly with breaking news, exclusive reaction about the release of a secret recording between then candidate Donald Trump and his attorney, Michael Cohen. Also, two simple questions. Why does John Brennan still have his security clearance and should be revoked? The answers are coming up later on inside tonight's ANGLE and other conversations -- this like always happens before the show. Newsbreak and I love it. It's like radio, it's like crazy. Everything happens at the last minute. Fine by us. Plus, even outside the White House, he still has the president's ear. Whom am I talking about? Great night to have him on. Former White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus will join us for an exclusive and he'll offer insights into the president's thinking on Russia, the communication, what is going on with the chief of staff, and this current controversy about this tape being released. And later, we'll dive into two explosive cases, one involving police and race in a caught-on camera moment in Georgia. So we'll get into that and a lot more coming up here on THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. And I gotta tell you something. When we got Giuliani on the phone and we got our next slate of guests, you're going to want to buckle up. Tonight, some breaking news. CNN claims to have gotten their hands on recordings between then candidate Donald Trump and his then attorney Michael Cohen. Now the tapes were provided by Cohen's now current lawyer, Lanny Davis. Remember he used to be out there and Lanny's an old friend, but he was out there defending Bill Clinton not too long ago. And long known for his vituperative and steadfast defense of all things Clinton. Here's a piece that CNN played, and it must be stressed that we had FOX News have not confirmed the authenticity of these tapes. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend David. You know, so I'm going to do that right away. I've actually come up and spoken -- and I've spoken to Alan twice about how to set it up with funding. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (inaudible) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. And -- all the stuff, all the stuff. Because you never know where that company, you never know UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (inaudible) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- where he's going to be -- correct. So I'm all over that. And I spoke to Alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be real soon. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What financing? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We'll have to -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (inaudible) -- check -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, no, no, no. I got it. No, no, no. (END AUDIO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The tape is interestly cut off at that point. Joining us now for reaction, Alan Dershowitz, author of the book "The Case Against Impeaching Trump", which is now a huge New York Times best seller. As well as Sol Wisenberg, former deputy, independent counsel for the Whitewater investigation. Gentlemen, thank you both for being with us. This news breaking an hour ago. Professor Dershowitz let's start with you. We're all lawyers. There's something that sends a chill down my spine, up my spine, about hearing a conversation between an attorney and a client. I don't care what the government is threatening you with, with the prosecutors are threatening you with. But to hear a private conversation played between the two on national television, it's like I have no words. But I guess they waived the privilege, right, Alan? That was a decision that the Trump legal team made. ALAN DERSHOWITZ, AUTHOR, "THE CASE TO IMPEACH TRUMP": Yeah, I think you're going to have to ask Rudy. Rudy is a friend of mine, and he's a great lawyer and he rarely makes mistakes. But you have to ask him why he waived the privilege about that conversation. The conversation is a natural one. I've had it with clients dozens of times. The clients suggest something. If the tape is accurate and if Lanny what says is on it is on it, the clients suggests maybe cash and the lawyer says no other client says fine, we'll do it by check. That's what lawyer-client conversations are supposed to be about, a back and forth where the client suggests something, the lawyer says something else, and the client generally listens to the lawyer. But the big picture is a, there is nothing on the tape that suggests any crime. B, what is strongly suggested by the prior interview by Lanny Davis is that -- he has -- Cohen has made his decision. He's going to cooperate with the prosecutors. He's going to flip. He's going to try to get immunity, and he's going to testify against Donald Trump. Whether he has anything to say that is incriminating, it's a real question. Even if he does, whether he's allowed to say it. Because remember, Giuliani didn't waive other privileges, just that day. And even if he has something that might be incriminating, no evidence that he does, he can't reveal it unless it's a violation of the lawyer-client privilege or waived if it's lawyer-client privilege material. So those I think are the big picture items INGRAHAM: Sol, what is the potential jeopardy if any, that this tape poses the President of the United States? And again, so people understand it, it's hard to hear this tape. It's a little bit unintelligible. We're going to talk to Giuliani exclusively in just a few moments. But their impression is that what the president said is no cash. And Cohen says no, no, no, no. Then Trump then says -- you can hear him say a check? A check. So he could be again -- maybe we can you know, make this tape clearer. But right now it's unclear what he said. Could the president -- the then candidate -- saying we want a paper trail? SOL WISENBERG, FORMER DEPUTY INDEPENDENT COUNSEL FOR WHITEWATER INVESTIGATION: I don't know, but it doesn't matter what he is saying, Laura, in terms of your question. I agree completely with Professor Dershowitz. There's no indication of a crime here. Now it may end up that it establishes that president lied, which is certainly a serious matter. I understand he said he didn't know anything about the payment by the parent company of "National Enquirer", but that's very different as to whether or not there was a crime. I see nothing resembling that. I do think it's shocking, irrespective of whether it was wise or prudent to waive the privilege, really shocking for a lawyer is taping a conversation with a client, whether it is privileged or not. Certainly confidential client information. I'm not sure -- I'm not sure that Cohen has definitively made the decision to flip and the only reason I say that is because by doing -- by doing and taking the actions publicly that he has taking, it seems to me that he might be making a last-ditch effort for a pardon. I see no other reason for it, because if he wants to do a deal and flipped, typically the prosecutors don't want you going out and talking on national TV. It's a bit of a mystery to me. INGRAHAM: Well and we keep hearing from Michael Avenatti, who seems to have you know, divinely discovered that there are more than one or two tapes. You hear him on TV. It's like there are many tapes and everyone will see. It's all horrible stuff about to come out. That's what you get from him. But, Professor Dershowitz, there doesn't seem to be any transaction that actually took place here, correct? So whether the president misspoke or misrepresented things on Air Force One when he referenced not knowing about the transaction, there was no transaction here ultimately. Does that have any relevance? DERSHOWITZ: Yeah, there is no crime, this couldn't be an attempt or a conspiracy because in the end he says pay by check. But the whole context of the conversation would seem to undercut the cash analysis. The context of the conversation is let's create a legal form, let's create a corporation. Let's not leave it up to one person. When you create a corporation, you create records. Corporations don't pay by cash. Corporations almost always paid by check or by wire and leave a paper trail. So if, in fact, the president did say, and it's hard to hear, pay cash, that seems very much out of context to the conversation. The other thing is, the tape ends very abruptly which could suggest that there's more on the tape that's exculpatory, but that Cohen has either kept it as leverage or maybe erased it because maybe he doesn't look so good on it. But ending the tape abruptly the way this one ends -- INGRAHAM: It's odd. DERSHOWITZ: -- and when you get forensic experts coming in, they can tell you whether it was cut off, when the phone stopped, whether -- I think this was an in-person conversation, but we're not positive. But it will tell you a lot more. I think this tape has to be subjected to forensic analysis. Look I had a case just like this 40 years ago where the issue was whether the police had said it's done on wiretaps or it's not on wiretaps and eventually the forensic proved we were right and we won the case. INGRAHAM: Yes. Right. OK. I think all of us in the makeup room were listening to this 15 times and none of us could figure out what was said. I want you to stay right there because joining us now on the phone is Rudy Giuliani, personal attorney for President Trump speaking with us exclusively after the release of this recording. Mayor Giuliani, thank you so much for checking in with us tonight. First of all your reaction to this tapes release. RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ATTORNEY: Well, I think it's -- first of all, the major point is it's outrageous that someone would tape this client surreptitiously. And number two, it's also foolhardy for them to try to yell and scream and make believe what's on the tape. I agree with you the tape is a little bit hard to hear. But I assure you that we listened to it numerous, numerous times. The transcript makes it quite clear the end that President Trump says don't pay with cash. Cohen then interrupts and says no, no, no. I got it. And then you hear distinctly, if you're careful and you slow it down, check. And then Cohen followed with no, no, no. And then quickly cuts off the tape which indicates exactly Professor Dershowitz is saying, that Cohen doesn't want the rest recorded because it was too exculpatory from the point of the view of the president (ph). Also -- INGRAHAM: Rudy -- oh go ahead. GIULIANI: There's no way the president is going to be talking about setting up a corporation and then using cash unless you are complete idiot. And again, the president is not an idiot. INGRAHAM: Rudy, there was a moment tonight on CNN where Lanny Davis -- he kept saying well we are showing you that what Giuliani claimed that Michael Cohen was the one who brought up the issue of cash, not his client Donald Trump. We're showing you with this tape that it was Trump who brought it out. So he seems to say the release of the tape, Rudy, was because of you and what you said. GIULIANI: Well, the fact is the president does bring up cash but he said don't pay with cash, right? And then Cohen says no, no, no, and the president says check. And then Cohen says I got it. The point is the president wanted the transaction to be memorialized. INGRAHAM: Rudy, there was some concern about the decision to waive privilege in this case, a lot of legal commentators. We just talked to Dershowitz and Sol Wisenberg -- GIULIANI: Well it's all well and good for them to say that, but the reality is, the tape was leaked not by us. Nobody believes that. Last week and we were treated to how we leaked it, which Jay and I were laughing about -- Jay Sekulow. This was leaked on us with a very, very scurrilous description of what was on the tape, probably by the same people who were lying on CNN. And we had to correct the record. So we have no problem making this limited release because it is corroborative of the president's statement. INGRAHAM: Now, so are you still maintaining then tonight that the recording that was released this evening is 100 percent exculpatory towards the president and his previous statements about this? GIULIANI: I think your two guests just said that. No indication of any crime being committed on this tape and that's absolutely right. So that's why we -- INGRAHAM: The -- go ahead. GIULIANI: Go ahead. INGRAHAM: No. You know what the left is going to say? You know what they do, they've been doing it for months. That the president gave the impression that he didn't know about any of these transactions, that this might've been happening, but he didn't know about them. The comment on Air Force One. Sol referenced it in the previous statement. He said I didn't know. Sounds like he knew something was being set up to perhaps buy the rights to this McDougal story. Correct? GIULIANI: No. In fact, if you go back a little further on the transcript, I don't know if you have the whole thing -- Cohen says that we need financing. And the president said wait a second, what financing? Then he has to explain it. The president did not know about this before this conversation. At least with regard to the transaction that we're talking about I mean, he may or may not have known about McDougal's claims, I don't know that. But he didn't know about this transaction. This is the conversation in which they talk about how they're going to buy the rights. INGRAHAM: And the rights, people have to understand who are watching tonight, the rights to this story from "The National Enquirer", or the company that owns "The National Enquirer" were never purchased, so that transaction did not go through. GIULIANI: That's another thing that's absurd about this. What it makes clearly is, this is at most an attempt to do something. I don't know of any attempt in this category of crime that they are looking at. So in any event, I don't think anyone can suggest that this represents anything where the president did anything wrong. And that's the reason why we waived it. Would we have put it out if it had not been leaked? No, we would not have put it out if it had not been leaked, but it was being leaked through "The New York Times" under very, very false -- it was false statements being made about it, which even are worse (ph), for the ones you're hearing now. INGRAHAM: Were you given a heads-up that this was coming out tonight at all or was this a surprise to you? GIULIANI: Yes. We found out at 6 o'clock this afternoon. And look, we have been over the tape over the weekend about five times. What I urge people to do is go online and listen to your broadcast. You play the tape. Play it three times. The third time you play it, it will become clear. I have been listening to tapes even longer than Alan Dershowitz, how about 4000 hours of mafia people on tape. I know how to listen to them, I know how to transcribe them. This tape is crystal clear when you listen to it. I've dealt with much worse tapes than this. INGRAHAM: Are you concerned that there are other recordings out there between Cohen and the president? As a lawyer, as someone who has dealt with people who have been in a lot of trouble before, just like you have, Rudy, the idea of a lawyer taping a client -- it takes your breath away. But are there other tapes you are aware of? Will you seek to release them yourself? GIULIANI: Today -- well, today someone was leaking from I'm sure their side, it can't be ours. There are 12 tapes with Cohen with the president. May have been Avenatti, someone else, don't quote me on that. He's leaked things like they are more tapes with the president. And Dershowitz asked him yesterday, how? Because it would be illegal for them to have that information. In any event, there are no other tapes with the president. We have all of the tapes in our possession. We have transcripts of all them. We are comfortable with them. And there are no others. INGRAHAM: Now Rudy, you have known Lanny Davis a long time. I've known him going back 20 years during the Clinton saga. Do you have any thoughts about his decision to represent Michael Cohen, given his long ties to the Clintons? GIULIANI: No. Not at all. I don't have any concerns about that. He is a lawyer and he has the right to represent who we wants and Michael has the right. I question the strategy of doing it, trying to make a tape say what it doesn't say. Or putting out a tape in which are a kind of proud of the fact that you are a lawyer taping your client. And then, thinking you could cooperate with the government? You know, to cooperate with the government, you gotta have credibility. The first thing that's going to happen, this guy is going to be disbarred. I mean it's ridiculous. H's a pariah in the legal profession. INGRAHAM: There was a moment tonight on CNN, I'm going to play it for you Rudy, where Chris Cuomo actually asked about this recording and whether it might taint the entire substance of it. Let's watch -- listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN HOST: This recording could be argued to be fruit of the poisonous tree. As counsel, Michael Cohen shouldn't have been recording his client, then Donald J. Trump. Now President Trump. How do you get past that this whole thing doesn't look good for Cohen because he should have never done it? LANNY DAVIS, MICHAEL COHEN'S ATTORNEY: Well, I'm not going to shift the topic. It's up to Mr. Cohen to explain why he was taping Mr. Trump. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So he didn't want to go into it. GIULIANI: This is great. When have I ever said it's up to the president to explain? That's his lawyer being interviewed by Cuomo and he throws the ball to his clients? It's just crazy representation. Have you ever heard of anything like this? You put out a tape of your client. You then may believe it says something it doesn't say. Believe me, there were three other versions of this before he got to this one that were even worse. And the transcript -- if you have the patience to analyze it, don't become like frenetic about it -- and now he is saying give the ball to my client. INGRAHAM: So -- I don't mean to harp on the Clinton connection here, but it is interesting that Cohen chooses the longtime confidant, booster, defender of the Clintons. After everything that happened during the campaign, to represent him. You know how this deal goes, Rudy. It was Cohen trying to send some kind of message to the president? Look out, here we come? You better watch out? It's an odd choice of lawyer in my view. It's an odd choice. GIULIANI: Well, I don't know. I can't comment on that, Laura. I don't know -- you know, some rule or standing (ph) saying I'm interfering with right to counsel if I do that. I don't want to do that. And I just question the whole tactic in Lanny's comment tonight, shifting the thing to Cohen and sort of throwing him under the bus. INGRAHAM: And Rudy, finally here -- GIULIANI: You have to be able to answer -- INGRAHAM: Yeah -- GIULIANI: -- you gotta be able to answer for your client or not answer at all. INGRAHAM: And finally Rudy, on the issue of talking to Mueller -- special counsel -- here, the reports came out that you all will talk about collusion and nothing else. Is there any developments on that you can tell us tonight? GIULIANI: No, I think we have been distracted the last couple of days. They have been distracted with the -- they are getting ready for the Manafort case. So you know, we'll probably get an answer in the next -- hopefully in the next couple days or week. INGRAHAM: All right, Rudy Giuliani, we really appreciate you joining us tonight exclusively. GIULIANI: Thank you. Thank you Laura. Bye-bye. INGRAHAM: Thank you so much All right. Let's bring back in Sol Wisenberg and Alan Dershowitz to react to what we just heard from Mayor Giuliani. Sol, let's start with you -- anything jump out at you that the mayor just said? WISENBERG: Well, what jumps out at me and one way is what is not being said. And of course I haven't heard the whole tape, as the mayor points out. But in all this conversation about did he say cash or didn't he say cash, my question is why is he even discussing buying the former playmate's story if it is not true, which he has said it isn't true? Why would you care? Why would you want to buy it? I mean let's look at the big picture. Professor's right, not a crime here, but I think that is something is an elephant in the room that needs to be mentioned. INGRAHAM: Well, I would say, Sol, businesses settle things in different ways all the time because well-known people are targeted and sued because people know you'll settle. That goes right to the settlement. They probably just wanted -- I don't know. I am just guessing, and Professor Dershowitz, you deal with this all the time. People want to get stuff off their plate. If we can put it that way, let's put it away. How do we do it? Come up with different strategies. That's what I am guessing, if I am presenting a client on this matter. Does that seem particularly odd to you? DERSHOWITZ: No, it sounds very plausible, especially since they did seem to use word plural. That perhaps what that president and Cohen were discussing is in the run-up to the election, there were probably going to be lots of people who will come and demand cash in order to not embarrass the president just before the election. They were discussing how to set up a corporation to make payments if necessary to keep it from influencing the election. That happens all the time and I don't think you can infer guilt from a payment of money. I think the tape is ambiguous. I think Rudy Giuliani today good job on your show explaining it. I think we have a better sense now after hearing Lanny Davis on CNN and hearing Rudy Giuliani on this show. And I think there are a few conclusions that we can reach. Number one, there is no crime. I think everybody now acknowledges this doesn't provide evidence of a crime. Number two, it does show that Cohen and Trump are no longer joined at the hip and Cohen would no longer take a bullet for the president. He may in fact fire a bullet at him. We don't know that. And number three, we have two extraordinary lawyers, Lanny Davis and Rudy Giuliani, both on different sides of this contentious issue as distinguished from Avenatti, who has no spirits and no background in any of these issues. These are two guys would look litigated these cases for years and years. They are worthy adversaries, and this is a very, very exciting confrontation with high, high stakes. This is an unfolding drama. (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: I mean Sol, if you are a lawyer, you want to represent one of these clients. I mean you are on television. Lanny loves to be on TV. I used to be on TV with him at another network years ago. We would debate all the time during the impeachment when you are working for Starr, Sol. So we can't blame him for wanting to do the case. Of course he wants to do the case. But my question is, what is the "there" there? I mean campaign finance violation or a conspiracy to thwart campaign finance laws? I mean I heard that theory floated on another network tonight. And I'm thinking OK, how are you getting to a to b to c in that analysis? Maybe you two are a lot smarter than I am and I can't get there. WISENBERG: I don't see -- based on everything I've seen so far, I don't see a campaign finance violation. Even if there was, as I said months ago, on your show I think, it's pretty small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. No president is going to be impeached for relatively minor campaign finance violation. At most, it's very embarrassing. This is the least of the president's troubles, I think. I thought it was striking that Mr. Giuliani did not deny the report that you talked about that basically is not going to be -- the president is not going to be talking to Mr. Mueller at all about obstruction of justice. If he talks to him at all, it will be about collusion, which I think as a lawyer, it's a very good position to take. INGRAHAM: Professor Dershowitz, before we let you go, I'm glad we got that question into Rudy because that report has been floating around. He's like, they're focused on Manafort now, haven't gotten back to him. But I get the sense that, you know -- what does Mueller do at that point? Then it's a game of chicken, right? Are you going to try to subpoena me? Are we going to fight the constitutionality of that? Where do we go? DERSHOWITZ: Comey would be very -- sorry -- Mueller would be very, very wise to accept this offer. Why? He's not been able to question the president about obstruction of justice. The president will claim presidential authority to have fired Comey and he will won on that issue. And so really if he is getting an opportunity to sit down with the president and discuss and ask questions about Russia and alleged collusion, he's probably getting all he would ever get after litigation. So my prediction here is that if Mueller, this is smart, and I think he is -- he will accept this offer and have an opportunity to put hard questions to him. And perhaps expect to spring a couple of perjury traps on him. Which is why if I were Giuliani, I would be a little wary about having the president sit down unless the questions were scripted and the answers could be scripted in advance, and the president wouldn't go off script. All of those are unlikely events, knowing this president and knowing the situation. UNINDENTIFIED MALE: (OFF-MIC) INGRAHAM: All right, we're going to have you both back -- I said I'm going to have you both back later after the extensive voice analysis. They'll bring in the experts to analyze the tape. You know that's going to happen. It will be all over the place tomorrow, but what a great night to have you both on. We really, really appreciate it, so thanks so much for spending so much time with us. And coming up, former White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus will be here, another great guest for a breaking news night. A -- of course a former White House chief of staff. He's going to discuss White House communications, the midterms, and this breaking news tonight. INGRAHAM: All right, they all claim to know the motives behind President Trump's statements, the media, politicians, the intel community. Nobody knows what the president is thinking more than his closest aides, even some who are no longer inhabiting the White House and that includes an old friend, former White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus; who was the first person the president called after the Helsinki summit. Joining us now, Reince Priebus, great to have you on tonight. How are you man? REINCE PRIEBUS, FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF: Great to see you too. INGRAHAM: Hey stranger. PRIEBUS: I was out for a couple weeks with the family -- INGRAHAM: Yeah? Nice, nice. A little rest, a little rest. No rest for the weary tonight. PRIEBUS: -- enjoying something I haven't been able to do for many, many years. A little vacation. INGRAHAM: A little rest, a little rest. What? You don't get any rest -- no rest for the wary tonight. PRIEBUS: What a night I picked. INGRAHAM: Yeah I know -- I'm thinking Reince is like trying to get out the back door. But come back, come back. So what was your reaction? You heard the segments with Rudy and Sol and Dershowitz. Why would -- PRIEBUS: I haven't heard the tape, but what I have done is I looked at the story from CNN on their website. And even in their own story, they are sort of equivocating back and forth as to what the president said or didn't say, and it's not really clear what he said or didn't say. I think Sol at the end on your last segment had it sort of right. At the very worst, it might be embarrassing, but it's not illegal. One thing I have learned from being out of the spotlight on the daily grind is that when you go back to Wisconsin and Michigan and Ohio, it's not just a talking point. It is just the absolute truth. I have not found a single person who is swayed by any of these stories, which is a massive financial boon to, no offense, but the cable news, and especially a couple other networks. So it's not moving America. The president was at 37 percent on Election Day when he won. He's at, if you believe the worst poll, he's at 45 today. And so what people really focusing on is where is the economy and isn't it great that we are projected potentially four percent growth of GDP under Donald Trump? That's really what matters. INGRAHAM: How many well-known people do you know of dealt with people who make allegations -- I don't know what happened, but I do know when you are well known you're a target. And you were a target in other ways, but you are a target. And a lot of people are like, I don't want to deal with it, or maybe I made a mistake. Get this off the table. I imagine -- PRIEBUS: Just because someone settles a case doesn't mean they're guilty. INGRAHAM: It happens all the time. Corporate America, the cost of doing business. PRIEBUS: As you're a lawyer, I have been a lawyer for 20 years. I was a litigator for most of it. I've settled a lot of cases where clients said this is B.S. I can't believe you are settling it. And you'd say, OK, well, that's great, or we can spend a couple hundred thousand in legal fees. INGRAHAM: You've got to litigate everything, a litigator. You sue me, I'm coming after you. I'll spend all the money I have to sue you back. Don't think about it. But most people don't do that. They're not going to do that. So when you were with the president, things like this came up all the time. How does he handle it? What is his reaction? You were there when this kind of stuff, bubbled up in the last days of the campaign. People were freaking out. A lot of people were thinking he was dropping out of the race after this Billy Bush thing happened. Now this came out days before the election. How is he dealing with it? PRIEBUS: Look, I was one of the people that would freak out over every one of these kinds of stories, and over time what I figured out with the president is that nothing sticks to him. None of this sticks. And what I found about his character is that he is a person who's able, which I am not one of these kinds of people, they can handle 50 total massive bullets coming at you and arrows, however you want to term it, at one time, remain the same kind of person on a pretty much daily basis in spite of the fact that may be today 10 arrows are coming at you. Next week it might be 50. The next week it might be a pleasant week where only two or three. INGRAHAM: Things have to calm down, though, don't you think? Things have been chaotic. PRIEBUS: Here's what I think about the president. I think if you look at the fundamentals of what he's accomplished, we won't go through them all, but we talk about them every day. It's unbelievable. If somehow or another some of these other issues could just go away by 50 percent, you'd be talking about the president on the $10 bill. So I do also believe that there's a huge benefit to the president in putting some of these things to bed. INGRAHAM: You don't have to fight everyone at once. You don't swing have to at every pitch. I've said this before. There's a lot coming at you. You don't just swing at every adversary. PRIEBUS: And he would be at 65 plus percent approval rating, my belief. But I also know that the president has, in spite of all of those types of advice that I've given, he has also defied it all. He was a guy that went down the escalator in January, or June of 2015 and thought -- INGRAHAM: And he said you were all wrong. You are all experts on TV, he's probably watching, we're wrong. I get it. I don't think everyone is always wrong, but I get the point. He has done well. But Republicans are seven points down among independents. The Republican pool itself has shrunk a bit. His numbers have ticked up, which is fantastic, but you need the independents. You need those suburban, and they want things to calm down. And they're not. PRIEBUS: In moderate House districts, that is true. INGRAHAM: So what do you do? If you are advising the president, he calls you, what do you say? Mr. President -- PRIEBUS: Well, for one thing, I would not have advised him to say that he misspoke in Helsinki. I would've probably advised him to do what I think - - I'm just guessing what's in his head, which is, look, people, I am trying to get along with somebody here. You might not agree with every single approach I'm taking, but I am doing my best to get along with a person that has been difficult for us to get along with, and I am trying a different angle here. And that's what I'm doing. And just be straight about it and move forward, not to claim that he misspoke. INGRAHAM: They are all in the Situation Room. They think it is Armageddon if he wanted to have a better relationship with Russia. PRIEBUS: Because the rest of the country outside of here and outside of New York isn't really paying agent in that much. And so to compromise what you actually believed in order to get through it -- INGRAHAM: So you are saying he didn't misspeak? PRIEBUS: I don't know if he did or not. I don't think he did. I think he genuinely wants to get along with the person, and he has the demeanor of, hey, we are going to get along. We're going to be friends through this. We are going to talk about things. INGRAHAM: So did Bush, so did Clinton, so did Reagan. PRIEBUS: I'm going to give you an air of dignity here for a while and we're going to see where this goes. That's where I think the president is at. INGRAHAM: What frustrates him the most right now? PRIEBUS: I think probably what frustrates him the most is that he has an economy that's booming. People are back to work. Black unemployment is under six percent. He is doing all the things he promised to do. And he's competing with a 24/7 media cycle that really doesn't profit on -- INGRAHAM: Good news. PRIEBUS: Not even good news, but fairness and there is two sides of a story. We have 24/7 cable and there is no money in -- there's only money and division. There is no money and sort of -- INGRAHAM: That's the way it is. He knows it. That's the way it is. He thrives off it. PRIEBUS: Unity is loser. Division is profit. INGRAHAM: But he's great when he goes to the people, and not just rallies, but the factory floors, the VFW, that humanizes him. PRIEBUS: I loved whenever -- I would always advise the president to go to every single, go to the VFW, the American Legion, Veterans with Disabilities, all those things, because, you are right, it humanizes him, and whatever can humanize him makes him stronger in middle America. INGRAHAM: People don't know he's actually very charming, and he's really funny. And he can be. And you don't see that a lot. PRIEBUS: Right, and that's all very true. INGRAHAM: And he's top at sales, you know that. PRIEBUS: He's at 45 percent by the worst poll. I think the Democrats are handling themselves, if they would find a way to be moderate but they can't. INGRAHAM: Republicans are going to hit them on trade? They are going to keep hitting them on trade and tariffs? PRIEBUS: Well, I believe Sonny Perdue is a pretty smart guy. So if he thinks that these subsidies need to help the farmers, I agree with him. But I also think that if you're handing out $12 billion in subsidies, it's probably saying something about the policy. So I think he needs to be careful. INGRAHAM: Reince, good to see you. Thanks for coming in. PRIEBUS: Thank you. INGRAHAM: Another slow news night for us. PRIEBUS: Yes. INGRAHAM: Stay with us. The debate continues over the release of that secret Trump-Cohen recording. Back in a moment. INGRAHAM: We have lots of breaking developments around the release of this secret Trump-Cohen tape tonight. For further analysis, let's bring in Chris Hahn, a political commentator, Democratic Party activist, and with me in the studio, Matt Schlapp, the chairman of the American Conservative Union. Matt, you have heard the tape. You've heard the commentary. Lanny Davis was on CNN. He was just absolutely triumphant, saying, look, don't listen to me. Listen to the tape. Let your own ears be the judge. He said it about 15 times. He's like listen closely. Donald Trump saying cash. Now, I didn't hear that way. Maybe some expert analysis will show something different. Even if it is true, doesn't mean from Dershowitz and Sol Wisenberg, no criminal implication. But this is a pretty blockbuster night. MATT SCHLAPP, CONTRIBUTOR, "THE HILL": I listen to the tape. I hear his assistant come in. INGRAHAM: Diet coke. SCHLAPP: And he's on a phone call. He needs some ice. Then he is talking to Cohen, so it's kind of not clear. But I would just say it seems like we are in the same spot we always were, which is Donald Trump lives a very extravagant life in many ways, and everybody knew it, because it was on the tabloid press in New York every night of the week. So the idea that this is a replay to some more detail about that life, I don't know how that's instructive on what's going on in the country today. Most voters, I think they would come to the same conclusion. INGRAHAM: Chris Hahn, your reaction from the news tonight. CHRIS HAHN, FORMER AIDE TO SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER: I think it's kind of like, remember when they have the sound effect, did you hear laurel or the other thing? I always heard laurel. I think if you believe Donald Trump is not telling the truth, you hear what you want to hear. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: OK, that's pretty funny. HAHN: Right? So look, what I heard was the president acknowledging on tape that he did something that he has said many times before he didn't do. So I don't know if that's a crime or anything like that, but I do know that it shows that he lied. And there was a time when the president lied about a sex scandal, it was a big story. Clearly it's a big story tonight, I think it will be a big story for a couple days. I think the Quinnipiac poll today is a bigger story. There was a significant drop there, and we will see what happens. INGRAHAM: Chris Cuomo actually raised this issue that Chris mentioned just now. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: They say that the president said do not pay with cash. Check. And that he was advising Cohen to do it all on the up and up because the president wanted to make sure that this was paid for properly. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: We don't get Lanny's reaction, but he basically laughed and went on to refute it. CNN's own website says it's unclear what is being said in the tape. Matt? SCHLAPP: I agree with Rudy. You listen to it, your viewers can make up their own mind. But let's be clear about what this is. He is buying the rights to story that makes allegations, it's a salacious story. And I don't think it is very uncommon for people who are prominent people to want to not have a bunch of negative things written about them and they buy stories. Now, are all the parts of the story is true? I don't know. But what the tape shows potentially is that they wanted the story not to run. That's what we're talking about. INGRAHAM: His comment on Air Force One was something like he didn't have any knowledge of the transaction or we don't have -- that was about Stormy Daniels. It wasn't about McDougal. So that was different. HAHN: He denied knowing anything about McDougal as well. So here we are with him knowing something about McDougal. So I don't think we can believe anything he says about McDougal or Stormy Daniels or any of these other things that might pop up that are like this, because he has been proven a couple times now to not being truthful with the American people. If I was advising him, I would say put it all out there, all the dirty laundry on anybody who might have something. INGRAHAM: Oh, really? Did you say that about Hillary? Wait a second, Chris. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Get out the dirty laundry? Have you ever said that about Hillary? Have you ever said that about the Clintons, get the dirty laundry? You would have so much dirty laundry there is not enough laundromats in Washington to clean it. Come on. What politician does that? HAHN: I advise everybody who is any kind of scandal like this to just put it out there and let it all be out there and then deal with it all at once. The drip, drip, drip, drip gets to you eventually and it will eventually -- I don't think it has gotten to the president yet, but it will eventually get to him. It always does. INGRAHAM: I think this is all baked in the cake before the election. This McDougal story dropped in "The Wall Street Journal." He wins Ohio, Florida. I think nobody cares about this. HAHN: Laura, it doesn't -- SCHLAPP: When you're a 69-year-old billionaire who has lived his life in the public, there are so many drips to all of that life that I think that that's actually a mistake. I think what he should say I'm trying to fix the economy, kill ISIS, and you knew what I was when you picked me. And you wanted a fighter, and I'm fighting like hell for you. INGRAHAM: Interesting conversation. Chris -- HAHN: Yes, I don't think you would have been so forgiving if it was a Democrat. INGRAHAM: Chris, I think you make some good points. Matt, you make better points. No, I'm just kidding. You're both great. I'm just teasing. Come on. Laugh. Does providing permanent security clearance to someone like John Brennan, speaking of a topic I think is interesting, is the public good being served? Tonight's "Angle" coming up. INGRAHAM: The clearance threat of John Brennan, that's the focus of tonight's "Angle." The media have been in a fit of apoplexy after the White House press secretary, Sarah Sanders, announced yesterday that the president is considering revoking security clearances for certain Obama era intel officials along with one from the Bush of administration. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's political. It's entirely poetical. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is punishing your critics. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are attempting to gaslight and distract from something else. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think it's very, very dangerous undermining of the intelligence community and almost the creation of an enemies list. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is not a small thing to have a president suggesting retribution for political criticism in this way. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It reminds me, David Ignatius, of what happened with Erdogan after he took control in Turkey. Who did he go after first? He went after the generals. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: What a buffoon. I'm sorry, Erdogan. All right, Joe. Here is how "NBC Nightly News" let their broadcast last night. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's an unprecedented threat aimed at some critics of the commander in chief. The White House now considering stripping the security clearances of six former intelligence officials. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Unprecedented threat. They make it sound like Trump is threatening to bomb former CIA Director John Brennan's house. Of course, it's hyperbolic reporting and it comes from Brennan current employer, NBC. But shouldn't it concern the media that former intel officials are using their credentials to lend themselves credibility as they go off to engage in political combat with the president of the United States? The truth is former intel officials have retained their security clearances for decades, not as a bonus prize for service but to benefit the government, maybe consulting work and so forth. For instance, the CIA is working on a case involving something a former intel official had worked on. He can use his continued access to act as a reference, maybe give some insights. But has it all gotten out of hand? Roughly 4.2 million Americans had security access or were eligible for access since 2015 according to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. The General Accountability Office calls this a high risk for national interest. It's perfectly legitimate, though, for the president to recall the clearances of retirees in the interest of national security, isn't it? So if the government needs retired officials to help on cases, the government can insist that they go through the normal clearance process again. But when you're talking about individuals like Brennan, it's a wonder how he maintained clearance at all. Let's look at the Brennan record for just a moment. Before he became their favorite Trump basher, the Democrats in the Senate despised him. Some urged his resignation as CIA director about lying about spying, and not spying on the bad guys, but on the Senate. He has been caught lying multiple times during his government career. Senator Dianne Feinstein in March, 2014, called out the CIA under Brennan's leadership for its effort to harass and thwart an ongoing Senate investigation into the Bush era enhanced interrogation program. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN, (D) CALIFORNIA: Based on what Director Brennan has informed us, I have grave concerns that the CIA search may well have violated the separation of powers principles embodied in the United States Constitution. It may have undermined the Constitutional framework essential to effective Congressional oversight of intelligence activities or any other government function. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Of course, Brennan was incredulous that anyone would question his credibility and his integrity. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY: As far as the allegations of the CIA hacking into Senate computers, nothing could be further from the truth. We wouldn't do that. That's just beyond the scope of reason in terms of what we do. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Well, naturally, they did spy and they would spy. What you just heard was a lie. Ten CIA staffers were found to have breached Senate Intel Committee computers. Senator Mark Udall, no conservative, called on Brennan to resign. But Obama protected Brennan. Let's not forget that Brennan was caught lying last year on the Steele dossier. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Director Brennan, do you know who commissioned the Steele dossier? JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY: I don't. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did the CIA rely on it? BRENNAN: No. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not? BRENNAN: Because we didn't. It was not in any way used as a basis for the intel community assessment that was done. (END VIDEO CLIP) (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Every time I hear that. In fact, two former intel chiefs, Jim Clapper and Mike Rogers, both disputed Brennan's claims that the dossier was not part of their assessment, Rogers in a letter to Congress and Clapper last October on CNN. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMES CLAPPER, FORMER UNITED STATES DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: Some of the substantive content, not all of it, but some of the substantive content of the dossier, we were able to corroborate in our intelligence community assessment. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Given Brennan's history of lying and obfuscation and his completely unhinged statements about President Trump, any sane person would question his objectivity and credibility. Trump is right 100 percent to be skeptical on Brennan and to call him out on his misinformation campaign. As "The Wall Street Journal's" Kimberley Strassel noted last week, Brennan has been bragging that it was he who started the ball rolling on this entire Russian collusion narrative. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRENNAN: I encountered and am aware of information and intelligence that reveals contacts and interactions between Russian officials and U.S. persons involved in the Trump campaign that I was concerned about. I knew there was a sufficient basis of information and intelligence that required further investigation by the Bureau to determine whether or not U.S. persons were actively conspiring, colluding with Russian officials. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Even if you are not wild about everything Trump has done, as David Harsanyi wrote in "The Federalist" back in March, "John Brennan shouldn't be lecturing Americans. He should be the focus of a congressional inquiry. He should be put under oath." And it looks like that may finally be coming. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BOB GOODLATTE, CHAIR OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY: Well, we have lots of questions for John Brennan, and he will definitely be sought by the committees for interview. This is an extremely disturbing thing to see both he and James Comey supposedly impartial government officials carrying out their jobs in very important areas in intelligence gathering and law enforcement express the kind of extreme bias that they have shown now, which I think reflects quite accurately on what they were doing back in 2016. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: The idea that we should continue to allow John Brennan and other deep state partisans to use their security clearances to validate their political attacks is sheer madness. To do so is to allow them to further disgrace the agencies they have already tarnished through their biased actions. And that's the "Angle." Joining us now with reaction is former CIA operative Mike Baker. Mike, your reaction. Brennan and his pals on the other networks are saying Trump has created an enemies list. Your reaction? MIKE BAKER, FORMER CIA OPERATIVE: First of all, really interesting, you packed a lot of information into that "Angle." Second of all, topline, what day is it of the week? It's Tuesday. We started out with Russia. We went to Iran. Then we went to the clearances issue. Then we went to tapes. The speed with which we move through things is incredible. With this, you pointed out several important issues. First of all, people are stunned and amazed that John Brennan and others would have these clearances. They don't understand the world of clearances. Retaining your clearance once you leave the government is your currency in Washington. There's a cottage industry here. And I'm not going to make a lot of friends by talking about this, but there's a cottage industry of keeping your clearance and moving to the commercial sector. Clearances are kept by senior officials typically up until now and in the past as a courtesy. And the idea being you can talk to the people that take your position and provide -- but what the left, with the resistance are talking about, they are suddenly the protectors of national security. I think we have reached a strange, surreal point. But they are saying, look, Trump is now threatening national security by talking about pulling Brennan's clearances, by talking about pulling Susan Rice's clearances because they won't be able to talk. In what world do you imagine the current administration would call Susan Rice or John Brennan and say we need to talk and get your insight on something? INGRAHAM: Mike, stay there. We're going to keep you for final thoughts coming up. INGRAHAM: Mike Baker, former CIA operative, it's bigger than Brennan. BAKER: Yes, the question of the clearances, it is bigger than Brennan. If the administration was smart, and I think they are, they would point out the fact that there is 4.1, 4.2 million people out there with security clearances, 1.3 or so of those million and top-secret clearances. What they should be doing is looking at the situation that has run amok. Again, it's a cottage industry. Anybody who leaves a position of authority with responsibility for classified information should lose their clearances. If you want to get them back and you're going to the commercial sector, that company can sponsor you. And if you need to go in and talk to somebody in a position of leadership, fine. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS CHANNEL HOST: Reform needed all the way around. Mike, thanks so much. Shannon Bream is next with a phenomenal show with all this breaking news. I can't wait to watch when I get home. Shannon Bream, you're on my DVR. Shannon. SHANNON BREAM, FOX NEWS CHANNEL HOST: Excellent. Laura, that's right where we like to be. Thank you so much. Load-Date: July 25, 2018 End of Document FBI Releases Carter Page FISA Warrant; Media Went Crazy After Learning That President Trump May Revoke Security Clearances Of Former Obama- Era Officials Who Used It For Political Purposes; Congressman Bob Goodlatte Says That Former CIA Chief John Brennan Had A Lot To Answer To Congress, And Therefore He Must Testify And State His Role In The Russia Witch-Hunt Hoax Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST July 23, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7295 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Jason Chaffetz, Gregg Jarrett, Andy McCarthy Guests: Tom Fitton Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker, the dessert stealer. I totally busted you. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: I'm going to tell you one night, the whole thing because it's a great story about you -- TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: I hope you will. HANNITY: -- and your personality. Let's put it this way it was meant for Putin and the president and you stole it. TUCKER: That's true. I can't turn down a good dessert. HANNITY: All right. Welcome to HANNITY. Tonight, we have confirmation right now tonight that America's top secret FISA court system was totally abused for political gain, judges lied to repeatedly and on purpose by the top echelon in our FBI and others. The FBI has now released their foreign surveillance warrant against one-time Trump campaign associate Carter Page. These contents go to the root core of our constitutional republic. Now, we on this program were right for a year. The media is now missed the biggest political scandal in our history. We'll explain all of this, just as we have been reporting the bulk of the FISA warrant we now know for sure was based on the unverified uncorroborated phony bought and paid for Russian lie dossier of Hillary Clinton. Clear proof your federal government has been using opposition research the deep state, to spy on a political campaign to impact, steal a presidential election. This should rock the soul of every American in this country, regardless of political affiliation. Now, to your core, we're going to reveal the baseless corrupt motivations that are behind all of this abuse. We're going to call out all of these high-ranking deep state officials. They literally weaponized surveillance. They saved one candidate from being indicted and they turn their guns on another candidate politically speaking. And this, of course, amid the abuse of the ongoing politicization of the intelligence gathering. Now, the Trump administration rightly is looking to remove security clearances from former high-ranking officials. We're going to tell you who they are and why they should be removed, something that the media won't tell you tonight. And we also have a message for Robert Mueller -- Bob, pay very close attention tonight. We found Russia collusion none of it involves Donald Trump. Buckle up, sit tight. This is an important hour when we start with our very important breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. This is sad news. Everything we have been telling you for months, we have been reporting for months that the media has ignored for over a year has been confirmed this weekend. I want you to pay very close attention. It gets somewhat complicated, but it's a sad chapter in American history. You have a Trump campaign associate, his name is Carter Page, he was spied on during the height of the 2016 election by Barack Hussein Obama's DOJ through the use of a FISA warrant, the hardest warrant to get. And tonight, we know for sure totally confirmed that the justification for this warrant was a document. You've heard it before, the unverified, uncorroborated, phony dossier put together by a foreign national with funneled money through a law firm to an op research group paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC. And, by the way, this was all full of Russian lies. The whole bunch of it, Russian lies. Every single thing that they said about Donald Trump was not true. Now, we told you about Perkins Coie, the law firm. We told you about Fusion GPS. We told you about the foreign national Christopher Steele. They dug up dirt on Clinton's opponent with Russian lies. Let me repeat, Mr. Mueller, Russian lies to the American people to affect the outcome of a presidential election. Let me put it more simply: Obama's DOJ and FBI were spying on the campaign of an opposing party, in a presidential election year, using op research that Hillary Clinton paid for, deep state operatives tried to rig and steal a presidential election. This is what happens in banana republics. This is Venezuela. The type of propaganda would rival Pravda in the former Soviet Union. This should never happen in the United States of America, period. And the mainstream corrupt media in this country has been completely missing in action. Make no mistake: this phony, dirty Russian dossier wasn't just referenced in the newly released documents on late Saturday night, instead Steele's dossier was in fact the FISA application, all four of them. But still, look at your screen, see these names? James Comey, Sally Yates, Dana Boente and Andrew McCabe, Rod Rosenstein all signed off on this warrant and all three subsequent renewals. They repeatedly lied to FISA court judges four separate times. Rod Rosenstein lied, McCabe lied -- nothing new for him -- and Yates and Comey and the rest of them all lied, and they all signed off on a warrant application based on a document that is so duplicitous even Steele himself in court proceedings and Great Britain conceded that the dossier was not confirmed or verified. He referred to it as raw intelligence and he said the chances of some of it even being true were 50/50. And Christopher Steele was ultimately fired as an FBI source for lying and leaking and still in the FISA warrants after his firing, they claimed to FISA judges that Steele was credible. He was fired for lying and leaking. And meanwhile, James Comey admitted he knew that dossier was unverified and salacious and let's not forget, fired FBI director actually denied he told a lie to our own Bret Baier that the dossier was, in fact, playing a major role in the FISA application, the hardest warrant to ever get. They lied to the judges repeatedly. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRET BAIER, FOX NEWS HOST, "SPECIAL REPORT": You called the dossier unverified, salacious. Why did you use that to the FISA court to ask for surveillance for Carter Page? Not only use it, but you led with it, a bulk of that FISA application deals with that dossier. Why? JAMES COMEY, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR: You know, that's not my recollection, Bret, and I don't know that the FISA application has been released. My recollection was it was part of a broader mosaic of facts that were laid before the FISA judge to obtain a FISA warrant. BAIER: There was a lot more than the dossier in the FISA application? COMEY: My recollection was there was a significant amount of additional material about Page and why there was probable cause to believe he was an agent of a foreign power and the dossier was part of that, but was not all of it or critical part of it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: What he said was a lie. This lie was parroted again and again by Democrats. The biggest liar in the country, Adam Schiff. Let's look at him lying to you. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: The information that was used in part in the FISA application came from a trusted source, Christopher Steele, someone who was a respected member of British intelligence. And it was part of a full package that was presented to the FISA court and it would have been negligent frankly given what the FBI knew about Carter Page, the history that he had, the fact had been a target of Russian recruitment even prior to this, the fact that they went out and interviewed him in March even before Christopher Steele produced any part of the so-called dossier, that they were acting in good faith. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No, Mr. Schiff, you knew and we all now know it was the bulk of the application. He's one of the biggest liars in the country, with 500 TV appearances. Well, about that. Meanwhile, remember, it was the Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein who was conflicted in so many different ways. He actually signed off on the last final FISA renewal against Carter Page who had this to say. Rod, listen to your own words about the sanctity of getting a FISA warrant when you said back in May, apply these standards to yourself knowing what we now know. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROD ROSENSTEIN, DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL: The way we operate in the Department of Justice, if we can accuse somebody of wrongdoing, we have to have admissible evidence and credible witnesses. We need to prepare to prove our case in court and we have to fix our signature to the charging document. That's something that not everybody appreciates. Now, there's a lot of talk about the FISA applications and many people that I see talking about it seemed not to recognize what a FISA application. A FISA application is actually a warrant just like a search warrant in order to get a FISA search warrant you need an affidavit signed by a career federal law enforcement officer who swears that the information in the affidavit is true and correct to the best of his knowledge and belief, and that's the way we operate. And if that's wrong, sometimes it is, if you find out there's anything incorrect in there, that person is going to face consequences. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Are you going to face consequences? Jeff Sessions, where are you tonight? Your country needs you to do your job tonight. And, by the way, is Christopher Steele, Rod, he's he credible to you? And to the best of Rod's knowledge, the basis of the 2016 FISA warrant/warrants against the Trump campaign associate, we now know the following: it was unverified, it was uncorroborated as Rot Rosenstein said it must be, it was untrue, it was a document full of Russia lies and they all signed off on it. And, by the way, in fact, everyone who signed off on this misled FISA court judges and propagated lies in order to knowingly spy on a campaign and rigged a presidential election in their favor and the media took this bait, they were fed by Christopher Steele at the behest of Fusion GPS, and they sent it out to the media. It is the biggest single scandal in American history and your media is deaf, blind and dumb and overpaid and lazy, which brings us to Carter Page. Now, tonight, besides and despite extensive surveillance from the federal government, why is it Page hasn't been charged with a crime? Has anyone asked that question? Despite Obama's DOJ alleging he might be a Russian agent, what they told the FISA courts, why is Carter age a free man tonight? In fact, according to Page, and I interviewed him for an hour on radio today, he actually was debriefed by the CIA and the FBI after many of his visits to Russia, cooperating with them, helping his own government he said. Here's what he said on my radio show. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) CARTER PAGE, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN AIDE: It's funny. Not only did they lie, it's -- they have two main themes which are totally contradictory. They call me a, quote/unquote, foreign agent, but then at the same time they say I'm a target of recruitment, right? So, which one is it? I mean, there's so many inconsistencies and it's just completely beyond comprehension. (END AUDIO CLIP) HANNITY: Our own Gregg Jarrett who's reporting has been flawless in all of this will join us in a minute, probably summed up this document best. And according to his legal analysis, here are the main takeaways from the FISA warrant. First, the warrant application was the dossier, like we've been saying front and center, the bulk of information. That means Nunes was right, the Grassley-Graham memo was right. The Democrats lied. The FISA court was purposefully misled on a lot of fronts and not explicitly told the nature of this unverified dossier with Russian lies. There would have been no warrant without the dossier. Remember, even Andrew McCabe said that. James Comey lied about the dossiers role in this warrant. The FISA court never knew Hillary bought and paid for this. They purposely withheld that kind of important piece of information, and the FBI were lied on news accounts and lied to judges, including what's called circular reporting from Yahoo News. They used the dossier as the basis for one of their reports. Steele lied but was still called credible by the FBI? Does that make sense? Page has never been indicted. The FBI never actually interviewed Page, although he said he was back at March to me. The dossier was unverified, and yet it was used to obtain warrants. How dare Rod Rosenstein and everybody else sign off on that? They are now violating -- shredding our Constitution, violating our Fourth Amendment rights. And why is it all redacted? Let's give it to the American people. Trey Gowdy even said he's seen no collusion from this document up. And still tonight, we have even more questions than even earlier this FISA application is heavily redacted. The American people deserve to see it. I am calling for all of this warrant to be unredacted. The president can do this and according to my sources, if the final FISA warrant is released, Rod Rosenstein is finished as his role -- in his role as deputy AG. But now because of the blatant abuse of power that took place at the highest levels of your government, the Trump administration rightly tonight is taking important steps and calling for certain Obama era officials to be stripped of their security clearances. This should have happened a long time ago, knowing what we now know. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Not only is the president looking to take away Brennan's security clearance, he's also looking into the clearances of Comey, Clapper, Hayden, Rice and McCabe. The president is exploring the mechanisms to remove security clearance because they've politicized and in some cases monetize their public service and security clearances, making baseless accusations of improper contact with Russia or being influenced by Russia against the president is extremely inappropriate, and the fact that people with security clearances are making these baseless charges provides inappropriate legitimacy to accusations with zero evidence. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Well-said, Sarah Sanders, right on the money. Thank, God. They all abuse their power, the power that we give them. None of them should have security clearances. It's all true they fixed the investigation to help their favorite candidate Hillary Clinton, the worst obstruction of justice case I've ever seen in my life. And in the case of Hillary, misled the American people literally. She violated the Espionage Act, mishandled classified, top-secret, special access programming information and destroyed such two separate felonies then rigged an investigation, clearly into Donald Trump. Their security clearances and are now obviously a clear and present danger to this country. And meanwhile, the press is spinning in circles. But let us be clear tonight: all these people involved in the biggest political scandal of our lifetime. Robert Mueller, this is your collusion story. Robert Mueller, maybe you want to get your pit bull Andrew Weissmann on this. Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and the paid for Russian lies to rig an election and lie to the American people, all done at the highest levels of our government. Literally using a warrant process and lying to judges and the bulk of the information judges are fed so that they can spy on an opposition party candidate associate is full of Russian lies, so maybe you'll have a little more time on your hands and go after if -- I may -- these lies that were bought and paid for by Hillary to Russia, all designed to propagandize the American people. Let me put it another way: lie to the American people. Mr. Mueller, do your job tonight, if you care about truth, if you care about justice, if you care about the system of justice in this country being abused at this high level, if you care that somebody actually paid for Russian lies to misinform the American people and that information was spread by some of the highest levels of our government. How do you justify Russian lies being used to get a warrant on an American citizen? It was never verified. It was never corroborated. It was never even looked at. It was just propagated and these judges when are we going to hear from them. I never met a judge in my life that likes to be lied to, where I grew up, where my mom's a prison guard and my dad had worked in family court probation, yes, sir, no, sir, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am, yes your honor, no your honor. May it please the court? May it please the court that these judges now be told that they've been lied to to this extent by our own top officials in our government to steal an election? Here now, FOX News contributor, she deserves a Pulitzer in her work in all of this, Sara Carter, author of this book, "The Deep State: How An Army of Bureaucrats Protected Barack Obama and Is Working to Destroy the Trump Agenda", FOX News contributor Jason Chaffetz. Good to see you, sir, in studio. JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. HANNITY: Sara, you've been ahead of the curve. We've been reporting all this. Now, it's all been confirmed. Now, we know the lies told. Now, we know what they didn't tell the judges about who paid for this. Now, we know that they used unverified information and they put their name to it. So, where do we go from here? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: This is one of the most dangerous moments in modern American history when you think about this, Sean, that the intelligence community was weaponized, weaponized to unseat a duly elected president, with the intention of impeaching him if he got elected, or to -- or to skew the election so that Hillary Clinton could win. The only place to go from here, Sean, is that the president must declassify the 19 pages that are being requested by the House Intelligence Committee. That he's received the letter in June. HANNITY: And what will happen -- if the president does exactly what you're saying and I agree with you, I know Gregg Jarrett agrees. Do you agree, Jason? CHAFFETZ: Yes, totally. HANNITY: OK, if he does that, what will he find? What will the American people see? CARTER: The American people will know the truth. The American people will see what happened, how this dossier was used beyond what we're seeing now, which was already extraordinary, how the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court was fooled and the extent of which they abused the power. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Isn't it that the FISA court was lied to, purpose deceived? CARTER: Absolutely lied to, absolutely lied and deceived. HANNITY: What would happen if I lied to the court? I'd be in handcuffs, perp walk, mug shotted, and see you later, send me a cake with a file. It's -- CARTER: We all would. HANNITY: If I deleted emails, I deleted subpoenaed documents, it's -- my life is over. Why? Congressman, how did this happen in the United States or if there's anything I've got wrong, please correct the record. CHAFFETZ: No, I think your monologue is the absolutely the best synopsis that we've heard to date, you do it night in, night out. It's exactly what's happening here. HANNITY: But now, it's different tonight. CHAFFETZ: It is different and a couple things need to happen. Absolutely need to release that document in its totality. Rod Rosenstein should not be able to oversee this. He's involved and engaged in in the corruption that's happening there. And you've got to ask yourself, why is it that Director Comey and the others are pushing so hard to get the Democrats elected? It's because that will neuter what would Trey Gowdy and Devin Nunes and -- HANNITY: I can't figure Trey out. He's up and down like a yo-yo, just -- CHAFFETZ: But if you want Devin Nunes to be able to continue to move forward on this, guys like John Ratcliffe to continue to go after it, if the Democrats get elected -- HANNITY: It's over. CHAFFETZ: It's over. They will close this down. HANNITY: They will close this all down and a chapter American abuse of power will be eliminated. CHAFFETZ: That's why James Comey -- CARTER: Oh, no, it just won't be eliminated, Sean. (CROSSTALK) CHAFFETZ: -- just outwardly advocating to elect Democrats. HANNITY: Campaigning. Sara? CARTER: Sean, it won't -- it won't just be eliminated. The abuse of power will continue and that that is unspeakable. What could happen from here on out should frighten every American unless this is fixed. What needs to happen is the president needs to declassify these documents. The American people need to know the truth and the FBI, the CIA and our intelligence apparatus needs to be overhauled. They need to take a look at this. This needs to change and this abuse of power needs to stop. HANNITY: Congressman? CHAFFETZ: I also get rid of the attorney general. The attorney general is there a name only. I like Jeff Sessions when he was the senator, but as the attorney general, he is non-existent from any of these discussions. And until the president puts in an attorney general who actually do his job, I think the deep state is going to continue to move forward and work as well. HANNITY: So -- and if the Democrats -- this is important -- if they win this election, this all dies. CHAFFETZ: It does. HANNITY: They cover the whole thing up. CHAFFETZ: They kill it. Think about it: McCabe and these characters, Strzok, these were the people that were going to be running the FBI. HANNITY: And they all deserve their clearances taken away, right? CARTER: That's right. CHAFFETZ: By default, everybody should have every one of those clearances gone. HANNITY: Scary moment for our country. This is really scary. If we don't get this right, we are that banana republic. We are Venezuela. We are the former Soviet Union. Tonight, Gregg Jarrett's book is finally out and Newt Gingrich and Tom Fenton and Andrew McCarthy as a special important breaking news edition of "Hannity". HANNITY: All right. You see this book? Here with more reaction to tonight's opening monologue -- look, I watch Gregg Jarrett write this book, "The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump". It is now out in bookstores. I watched him write it word by word. It is meticulously footnoted, what, with over 700, a thousand, something like that? GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: (INAUDIBLE) HANNITY: It is the definitive story with all the facts, and this weekend, everything in this book as I read an early copy is now completely verified with this. JARRETT: The book tells the story not only of what happened over the last two years, but what is still going on. And the documents that came out over the weekend prove one of the main theses in the book. The FISA court was lied to. They were deceived. Evidence was hidden. HANNITY: How do you lie to judges? JARRETT: You can't. HANNITY: How do you delete emails, acid-wash hard drives, bust up the -- how does any of this happen in America? JARRETT: You know, it's amazing. I look back at Comey's testimony and one of the things that people don't seem to remember is Comey was asked very directly -- HANNITY: By Brett Baier. JARRETT: -- by Jason Chaffetz during congressional testimony, did Hillary Clinton give classified documents to people who did not have classification status? And he said yes. She should have been charged right then and there. HANNITY: Did she -- what she did worse than Kristian Saucier and the sixth person? JARRETT: Oh, yes. I mean, you know -- HANNITY: So, this is -- JARRETT: I go through all of the people in this book who have been charged for doing exactly what Hillary Clinton did, and yet -- HANNITY: She did worse. JARRETT: Oh, yes, because the volume -- in fact, Comey wrote the sheer volume indicates that she was grossly negligent, but then he had Strzok and Page expunge that statement. HANNITY: How is it possible that -- this is the biggest story of corruption and abuse of power that I can think of in our history and we have basically been a lone voice and everything that we've been reporting on, that you have reported on, Sara, I can't name all the names, there's too many people. But the -- but the -- our core group of people has now been proven right. JARRETT: Yes. HANNITY: How do you lie to a FISA judge repeatedly? How does Rod Rosenstein get to be the deputy AG and he signed off? JARRETT: It's a fraud on the court and, in fact, you played the clip of Rosenstein saying that when you sign this, we take it very seriously, we're vouching for the truthfulness, the honesty the authenticity of our documents and yet, we now know -- HANNITY: Did anyone verify it? JARRETT: -- these documents were never verified, you know? And it would have been interesting if they had actually shown the FISA judges, the dossier itself. Like you and I, they would have looked at this thing. First, they would have laughed and then they would have said, get out of my court with this garbage -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It holds the fact that it was bought and paid for -- JARRETT: Yes. HANNNITY: -- by Hillary. JARRETT: And in fact, on page 159 of my book, I recite the exact footnote. Footnote number eight from the warrant application, which is so cryptic you would have to be telepathic or clairvoyant to be able to figure out that it was funded by Hillary Clinton and came from a foreign national, an ex-spy, who used multiple hearsay Russian sources that some of whom may not even exist. HANNITY: So, they all signed off on this but in an interrogatory, this is in your book also. JARRETT: Yes. HANNITY: You know, the case in Great Britain under the threat of perjury charges, what did Christopher Steele say? JARRETT: Well, he basically said that this is just, you know, kind of raw intelligence and not entirely reliable. I mean, it took me a while to dig that out because it's a foreign court but you can get the interrogatory answers that he gave. And once you read those answers, he'll walk away and said -- say not even Christopher Steele believed his own phony dossier. HANNITY: So you have a leaker, a liar fired by the FBI but yet, he's in the FISA warrant which they say is credible. JARRETT: Right. In the later applications, they say, well, we did determine that Steele -- hey didn't use his name but he referred to him as source number one -- that Steele may have misled us, but we believe that his information is credible. HANNITY: On a scale of lying to a court, how do you, and where does that go on the scale? And am I right that this was designed to steal the presidential election? JARRETT: If 10 is a lie, this is about a 20. I mean, this is the most egregious-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Where would I be right now if I did this? JARRETT: You would be behind bars. HANNITY: Without a tooth could you get me out? JARRETT: No, I couldn't get you out. I mean, this is an abuse of power by arrogant people. They subverted the rule of law, they tried to undo an election. HANNITY: Wait a minute, but also we know that this whole -- this whole phony -- by the way, Robert Mueller, Russia dossier, Russian dossier, Russian lies. The American people were purposely misled and this was spread as gospel truth. JARRETT: It was. And so much of what Comey had to say, I mean invite people to go back and look at what Comey say originally in this. He said no reasonable prosecutor would ever bring such a case. HANNITY: Really? JARRETT: I haven't yet defined a prosecutor who wouldn't have loved to bring this case. HANNITY: All right. JARRETT: There was so much evidence against Clinton. HANNITY: It's in bookstores everywhere. This is it. This is the book. Congratulations. I think it's going to be number one New York Times bestseller. (CROSSTALK) JARRETT: Listen, thanks. Thanks to you. HANNITY: No. People need to read this book, it's all in here, all of it. Meticulously done, I watched you write it yourself, which is rare. Good job. JARRETT: Thank you. HANNITY: All right. Newt Gingrich is next, stay with us. HANNITY: All right. Following the White House's announcement today, that President Trump was looking into revoking the security clearance for former Obama era intelligence officials including John Brennan, he is the worst of them. James Clapper, Susan Rice, Michael Hayden, the destroyed Trump media predictably, and basically if Trump breeds, they will go into meltdown mode. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN HOST: Sarah Sanders there. Let's just call it what it was, she threw a grenade in there when it comes to this news that she is now saying, the White House is now considering not only revoking the security clearance of the former CIA chief John Brennan, but also that of Comey, Clapper, McCabe and Rice. JAKE TAPPER, CNN HOST: There're really no way to look at this other than President Trump wants to punish his critics. JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Look, Jake, there's no question about it. He wants to punish them and silence them as well perhaps. WOLF BLITZER, CNN HOST: Truly extraordinary, an unprecedented threat from the White House but it doesn't seem grounded in reality. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a very dangerous day for American democracy. This is the move of an autocrat, not an American president. KEN DILANIAN, NATIONAL SECURITY REPORTER, NBC NEWS: We should minimize this. This is a huge deal. This is Nixonian. This is the president threatening to use his power essentially to punish his political enemies. And there's no other way to look at it. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now the other way is they abuse their power as it relates to, yes, trying to influence the American electorate with Russian lies that Hillary paid for. Here's the author of the New York Times bestseller, "Trump's America: The Truth About Our Nation's Great Comeback," Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich. We are expecting GDP growth, Barclays today revise their prediction and I don't think it's going to get there to 5.3 percent for the quarter, anything above four would be a grand slam home run by any proportion. Let me -- let me get to the important issues here. I've never seen a group of people lie to courts like this. And fix an investigation like this, that had turned on one presidential candidate like this and abuse the power in such a level, lying to FISA judges to spy on Americans. We don't have a Constitution, sir, if this stands. NEWT GINGRICH, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, no, we do have a Constitution but we just have to fight to preserve it. As Benjamin Franklin said to the- - (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That's spreading it, isn't it? GINGRICH: Well, Benjamin Franklin said to a woman right outside the constitutional convention, when she said what have you achieved, and he said, a republic, if you can keep it. We're that kind of a cycle. And look, if I had any complaint about what Sarah Sanders said today that the president thinks he's going to do in terms of these people, is he's not going far enough or being serious enough. I think we ought to have some kind of open reporting on every single person who lied to us about. I think we ought to have a really serious look at all the different ways in which the establishment grew more corrupt, more dishonest, more willing to lie to the American people. And if I were to fault the president it wouldn't be for going too far, it would be for not methodically and systematically exposing to the American people, starting frankly with the FISA warrant. There's no excuse for that warrant being redacted anymore. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Mr. Speaker-- GINGRICH: And he kind of stroke to the-- HANNITY: -- they lied to FISA court judges four times. Four times, the bulk of the application was Hillary's bought and paid for Russian, if Robert Mueller is paying attention, lies. GINGRICH: Right. HANNITY: How is everything so topsy-turvy in terms of the country, the narrative, Mueller and the media? GINGRICH: Well, you essentially have said it yourself. We know who these people are, but the question is, what do we do about it? I mean, I have no you doubt that the New York Times, the Washington Post, and CBS News and all the other manifestations of the establishment are desperately seeking to prop up the corrupt system which fed them new stories, which took care of them, which made them feel like insiders. And I have no doubt that this is really an all-out fight between the old order desperate in its dying phases and the desire of the American people for honesty. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But what about-- GINGRICH: But Sean, I think the real challenge -- the challenge here is not them. I want to surprise you, the challenge is not them. We know who they are that challenges us. And the fact is, starting with the president, we haven't been tough enough, we haven't been direct enough, we haven't been focused enough and I think if we were this whole thing would collapse in a matter of weeks, because it is so sick and the stake would be so great. And I just gave you three or four examples. HANNITY: How about we start with the redactions. How -- and here's the challenge. GINGRICH: Perfect. HANNITY: We could start with the redactions, how does Rod Rosenstein be as conflicted as he is? And he signed the last warrant based on Russian lies. And he appointed Mueller. I mean, I would laugh if it wasn't so serious because the American people-- GINGRICH: No. HANNITY: -- were systematically lied to, courts were systematically lied to. The -- our protections against unreasonable search and seizure were violated at the highest levels of our government. GINGRICH: Right. HANNITY: And I would argue our Constitution is meaningless unless it's fixed. GINGRICH: You know, Sean -- Sean, here's where you and I are in a different place today. HANNITY: Help me. GINGRICH: And maybe it's in part because I had an opportunity to go to take a deep step back and to think about history and to try to get a feel for where we are. Where you and I are in different place is simple. The number one test is neither Rod Rosenstein, we know who he is. It's not anything's desk. The number test is tomorrow morning, President Trump should sign a note completely eliminating the redactions and release the paper. There is no reason for him to not just go ahead and do it, get it over with. And that begins exactly what you have suggested. HANNITY: Let me -- let me take you to a step further. (CROSSTALK) GINGRICH: And then there are other things. And I-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He should sign it, release a totally unredacted version and all those documents that Congress has been beating their brains over, how about he has the authority to release all of it? How about we release it all? Let the -- let's be transparent. GINGRICH: I think that they should -- the only limitation should be active threats to people who are helping the United States and that should be -- and that should have to be proven. But otherwise get it all out in the open. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Sources and methods protected. GINGRICH: And as I said one of the places -- right. Within that framework, dump it all out there. The only thing that is going to clean up Washington is the fresh air of accountability, transparency and honesty. Nothing else is going to clean this place up. HANNITY: You've been-- GINGRICH: It is a snake pit, and it would - the more we learn, the sicker we realize it is. HANNITY: You are a great historian, and you are a professor at heart, nobody knows that about you as much as I do. I guess the question is, in history we've had some very challenging times, can you think of a bigger abuse of power in our history? GINGRICH: Sure. Look, I think the person whose situation is most like President Trump's was Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln is fighting to preserve the Constitution. He's fighting to preserve the union and he's having to do a lot of different things that are very bold and in some cases very radical. And he is trying to do it in a way that he's deeply, bitterly opposed not just by the slave-owning south but also by a substantial number of Democrats in the north. And I think that Trump is in a very similar place. I gave you an example a few minutes ago that I think is so astonishing. You go back and look at Benghazi, we know without any question that the President of the United States, Obama, lied. We know that Hillary Clinton lied. We knew that Rice lied. We know that they knew they were lying, that they, in fact, hid information from Tunisia, or rather, from Libya that said their version was totally false. And they deliberately and maliciously lied to the American people. That should all be released and we should be able to see who these people really are. And then you should say this also if that's all true and if Clapper and Brennan and others were engaged in lying to the American people, why would they keep their secrecy? Why would they be allowed clearance? And I think that it's very important to get all the stuff out in the open. HANNITY: All right. Mr. Speaker, very powerful. Thank you. When we come back, Tom Fitton, Andy McCarthy, we'll get their report and perspective. That's straight ahead. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. BOB GOODLATTE (R), VIRGINIA: We have lots of questions for John Brennan and he will definitely be sought by the committees for an interview. This is an extremely disturbing thing to see, both he and James Comey, supposedly impartial government officials carrying out their jobs in very important areas in intelligence gathering in law enforcement express the kind of extreme bias that they've shown now, which I think reflects quite accurately on what they were doing back in 2016. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Congressman Bob Goodlatte this weekend calling on the former CIA Chief John Brennan to testify to Congress on his role in this Russia witch hunt hoax. With reaction, Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton, he deserves a big pat on the back tonight. Former federal prosecutor, Andy McCarthy. Let's go to that particular point and get your reaction, and more importantly, just get your general reaction of what we learned today. (CROSSTALK) ANDREW MCCARTHY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, look,-- HANNITY: The Saturday -- the Saturday night dump. MCCARTHY: You know, look. On the security clearances, I think anybody who abuses their security clearance, whether it's to politicize intelligence or to leak intelligence, if they find out that you did that, you should get your clearance yanked. I don't like seeing the debate about it get politicized. HANNITY: It's too late, they politicized it. MCCARTHY: Well-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Does Hillary -- let's get to the beginning. Does Hillary violate the espionage Act? MCCARTHY: I think she did. Yes. HANNITY: OK. When she deleted and bleach bit and beat up her devices, is that obstruction there after she was subpoenaed? MCCARTHY: Yes. The documents were -- the stuff was under congressional-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And did they not turn the top FBI officials turned on Trump in a way that was unprecedented and used their power against an opposition party candidate to stop him with an insurance policy? MCCARTHY: I think they weaponize the intelligence and the law enforcement apparatus of the government throughout the-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Against Trump. MCCARTHY: -- Obama administration, but they certainly-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And did they lie to FISA court judges, not once, but four times? MCCARTHY: Yes. I mean, they -- well, first of all, they didn't, with respect to the dossier, it was not corroborated. And when they said it was verified-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Because they're all from that? MCCARTHY: Well, their own policies demanded. Their own policies say that they're-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: FBI policies and so is the law. MCCARTHY: -- not supposed to give -- well, yes, the law demands that you provide accurate information to a court, it doesn't require that it'd be verified and corroborated, but their procedures require-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Rod Rosenstein said that if not there are going to be consequences. I played that tonight. MCCARTHY: Well, let's see if there are. HANNITY: I'm not holding my breath. Tom, go through the same list of questions in your mind. Start with Hillary end up with lying to the FISA court judges four times with Russian propaganda paid for by an opposition party. TOM FITTON, PRESIDENT, JUDICIAL WATCH: Hey, you know, it doesn't -- it doesn't take a lot to yank a security clearance. The deep state has been playing the security clearance game with the Trump administration since it has come into office denying, pulling and punishing those who were deemed too close to Trump by pulling security clearance or delaying them. But when it goes to Comey and McCabe it's a no-brainer. Both were fired for misconduct. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What about Brennan? FITTON: Brennan, Yates, I would -- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Clapper. FITTON: -- consider Yates in this by the way. Clapper, what I -- Clapper is accused of lying quite credibly. And the basis for pulling a security is credible derogatory information and it's hard to say that there is no credible derogatory information. You got Clapper who he kind of admits to lying, you have Brennan who is accused in a book of leaking purposely the dossier to Harry Reid with the hopes it gets leaked out to the media. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: That's all true. That's all true. FITTON: So, yes. I report them on-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So he was telling a politician about something that was Russian lies bought and paid for. The CIA director is spreading Russian lies as CIA director. Does he deserve a security clearance? (CROSSTALK) FITTON: And then Susan Rice -- Susan Rice had a number of explanations, contradictory explanations about her involvement on unmaskings. You know, it's fair-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, I was reading all weekend, I was on unmasking and surveillance-- FITTON: OK. It's fair to ask the question-- HANNITY: -- why Brennan is one of these. And if he didn't do it or if anybody -- I find out who did this illegally, I will sue them and hire the best legal team including Andy on the planet to go after them. All right. Let me go back to you. Wasn't this all about Russian lives paid for, disseminated, propagated and lying to courts? Wasn't this about lying to the American people with Russian lies of all things? MCCARTHY: I think it was about pushing the envelope as far as you could push it. HANNITY: You're being too nice. MCCARTHY: No, I'm saying for the politics of the election and I think they did it because number one the FISA stuff is classified, and number two they were sure that Hillary was going to win and no one was ever going to be any wiser. HANNITY: But if you -- if I lie to a court where would I be now? MCCARTHY: You'd be in-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Jail. MCCARTHY: -- you'd probably in jail. HANNITY: And if I just swallow -- if I destroyed subpoenaed information what would happen to me? MCCARTHY: The normal person that does this gets prosecuted. FITTON: You know, quickly, is there any doubt-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Well, we've got to run. All right. FITTON: -- is there any doubt that this whole FISA court application-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: I got to role. Hannity will be back, the Democratic Party is being overtaken by the radical left, we have the proof. HANNITY: All right. Socialist superstars Bernie Sanders and yes, the new rock star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez were in Kansas n Friday pushing their socialist liberal left wing agenda, and actually claiming they are the new normal to your Democratic Party. OK. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ (D), CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE, NEW YORK: We are a nation that will not stop until every child is born with the opportunity to go to college or trade school free of cost. SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D), VERMONT: The ideas we campaigned on which a few years ago were seen to be radical ideas are now mainstream ideas because of your support. I thank all of you for the support you gave me and for being part of a political revolution which is sweeping this country. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: We start this week the hundred day countdown to the most important midterm in our history. That's tomorrow night. All right. That's all the time we have left. We're always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy- Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. There she is, Laura Ingraham. Hi. Load-Date: July 24, 2018 End of Document Russian Woman Arrested by FBI; James Comey Tweets that Democrat Should Not Move Left; President Trump Send Threatening Tweet to Iranian President. Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST July 23, 2018 Monday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8654 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Devin Nunes, Robert Driscoll, Monica Crowley, Doug Schoen, Mike Huckabee, Wesley Clark Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: There she is, Laura Ingraham. Hi. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Hey Hannity. When I see Bernie Sanders, I - - I have to smile. What were those grandparent muppets? You know the muppets -- the two, what were they called? I have no one in my -- Sean: You know, every time you say something. You know, I've been doing this on air 23 years. INGRAHAM: Yeah. HANNITY: I'm thinking Laura is going to get in trouble again. And nobody knows you are kidding. INGRAHAM: I mean I like -- I like the muppets, but there's something about the way he does -- I like it -- it's actually (ph) mesmerizing. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You're breaking up -- I can't hear you. You are going to get in trouble again. Stop getting in trouble. I am trying to help you. INGRAHAM: I promise. If you are much older -- HANNITY: There are all these silly people that hate you, and want to destroy our shows. INGRAHAM: -- and wiser. All right, Hannity, thanks so much, great show as always. HANNITY: Have a good show. INGRAHAM: Good evening, I am Laura Ingraham. This is the INGRAHAM ANGLE. We have a packed show for you tonight. Has Devin Nunes been vindicated by the release of those FISA application documents? Of course, they authorized the surveillance of Carter Page. The House intel chairman is here exclusively to react. In a major twist in the case of Maria Butina, the Obama administration is being swept up in the saga of the alleged Russian agent. Butina's attorney will join us tonight. Plus, the escalating war of words between President Trump and Iran. Will the rising tensions lead to an actual military conflict? But first, the benefits and risks of Trump, the disruptor. That is the focus of tonight's Angle. And whether he's dealing with foreign relations or our own intel agencies, I mean Donald Trump is living up to what he promised on the campaign trail. He is a disruptor. When he believes it would benefit America, he's not afraid to reorient or even challenge old alliances. And sometimes he'll opt toward building bridges to old adversaries for the greater good. As he has on so many issues, Trump has ditched the playbook of the bipartisan establishment and the conventional wisdom that goes along with it. And let's face it. This has driven the old guard and their cheerleaders positively bonkers. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just personally think it's an incredibly depressing moment in our time coming in our history as Americans. UNIDENTFIED MALE: When your home is burglarized, you don't invite the burglar over to dinner, you put in a home security system. We should not be inviting President Putin to dinner at the White House. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's quite a pass we've come to when the leadership of a country like Iran seems more stable and rational than the President of the United States. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: U.S. influence is diminishing, and the overriding thing that connects all of this is diplomatic malpractice by the President of the United States. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Diplomatic malpractice? Diplomatic norms. But what are those? Are those the norms that allowed China to go virtually unchecked for almost two decades? Or the diplomatic norms that thought Iraq was an essential war? Or that when we looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul. The fact is many of the same people all trashing Trump's disruptive approach were the same ones who advocated the most disastrous policies of the post-cold war era. Of course, as long as they hit the president, they are still going to get gigs at "The New York Times" or the Amazon paper -- and they'll also get pundit perches at other cable outlets. In other words, they get total immunity for being perpetually wrong on critical issues. The good thing is Americans, both on the left and right, continue to reject the old norms that lead to job losses, flatling paychecks, off-shoring our manufacturing, and disastrous military intervention. President Trump has stood up to China with tough tariffs while slapping severe sanctions on Putin and also Kim Jong-un. And now he is standing up at a moment of social and economic instability for the regime in Iran. Typically, his all caps tweet advising the Iranian president to never, ever threaten the United States again -- I was coming back from a trip yesterday and was like whoa it's all caps. It was greeted with the same snark and skepticism of so many of his global initiatives. The difference this time is there seems to be coordinated communication at play, a strategy, something the White House has long needed. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and National Security Advisor John Bolton each sent out messages echoing the president's Iranian stance. Now this is a different approach from a mixed messaging that followed the Helsinki summit, we talked about this last week. While he shakes the old global order, Trump is also rattling the cages of the intel community. Cages that no one has ever dared to rattle. Remember during the campaign when Trump spoke about reforming and ending the corruption at the FBI and CIA? Even his political nemesis sounded a warning. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK, SENATE MINORITY LEADER: You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday of getting back at you. So even for a practical supposedly hard-nosed businessman come he's being really dumb to do this. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: And boy, have they worked to get back at him. We know the unverified, oppo research used to secure the FISA warrants to spy on an American and the FISA judges weren't told that Hillary specifically funded it. Then of course we know rogue FBI investigators used their powers as an insurance policy should Trump actually be elected. Meanwhile, some Obama era intel officials responsible for so much of the deep state mischief have become the critics in chief. And today the White House announced the president's intention to strip them of their security clearances, including former CIA Chief John Brennan who last week he called the president's Helsinki comments oh-so-subtly treasonous. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Not only is the president looking to take away Brennan's security clearance come here looking into the clearances of Comey, Clapper, Hayden (ph), Rice and McCabe. The president is exploring the mechanisms to remove security clearance because they politicized and in some cases monetized their public service and security clearances. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK, well, a couple of them don't have their security clearances any longer, it's good to check that before you go out there and say that; however, this disturbing episode -- I think it does requires more than security clearance revocation. It's bigger than that. It's about the credibility of the people who are heading up our intelligence agencies and their inherent political biases. The president should be encouraged to continue disrupting on behalf of the American people at home and abroad. Contrary to the media narrative, a new poll shows voters or with Trump. A new "Wall Street Journal" NBC news poll taken before and after the Russian summit reveals the president's job approval rating is up a point since last month to 45 percent. A high for his presidency. Imagine if we had a fair media. Among republicans, Trump has an 88 percent approval rating. Other than I guess George W. Bush after 9/11, that's a higher interparty rating than every president since World War II. And President Trump is on the right path, but he must proceed cautiously and react deliberately. Always keeping the focus on the American people. They're the ones who elected him. The resistance will seize on missteps and communication or approach to foreign policy as proof that they were right all along. You've got to leave it to the experts, Mr. Trump. But by all means, continue exposing Washington corruption and those who profit handsomely from it. That's the most enjoyable disruption of all. And tha's the ANGLE. Joining me for a reaction is Congressman Jim Jordan, a republican from Ohio and Byron York with "The Washington Examiner", also a FOX news contributor and Jan Ronis, democratic strategist and attorney. Congressman, he has kind of turned the table over in this town which I have lived in for far too long. REP. JIM JORDAN (R), OHIO: Yeah. INGRAHAM: But boy, the reaction from the opposition. Both in the intel community, as we've seen with the dossier, FISA applications release and in the pundit class and the media class. It's gotten more personal, it has gotten more vicious and they are intent upon ripping him out of office anywhere they can. I really believe that. Your reaction to what you just heard -- JORDAN: Right and he is fighting back. I mean Brennan leaked the information to Harry Reid. Rice goes on TV after Benghazi and lies on five different networks about the cause -- the catalyst of this -- the attack in Benghazi. Clapper lied under oath. Comey leaked information through a friend to create momentum for a special counsel, and Mccabe lied three times under oath based on the criminal referral. And we know Peter Strzok isn't telling the truth because he couldn't admit there was bias in his statements to -- in his text messages and Lisa Page in the committee hearing two weeks ago. So, the president is fighting back like he should. And what we also know, is this past weekend, everything that we saw in this FISA application confirms what we've been saying for seven months -- INGRAHAM: They say it's opposite, Congressman, JORDAN: Not at all -- INGRAHAM: -- they say -- JORDAN: Byron -- Byron did a great piece where he took Nunes' -- Devin's memo and outlined it all. That was so good. But yeah, we know the dossier was not validated. We know that they didn't tell the court who paid for it and we know they didn't tell the court christopher steele was out leaking information. INGRAHAM: Byron, their resistance is so ramped up. They're even focusing on journalists who dispassionately go through the facts and account for what happened and what was predicted. I think they might've been referring to you here. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is a whole amen chorus out there that is arguing with Donald Trump, and that's what's fueling this. It isn't just Trump and his tweets, it's FOX news, it's The Daily Caller website, there's a whole cadre of journalists who are essentially making this -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't use that term. They are not journalists if they are doing that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh they're not journalists -- Byron. They're even going after -- well obviously they're going to go after FOX, but they're even going after people like you and Andy McCarthy, even if they don't name you, that's what they are talking about. BYRON YORK, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I just want to stress here that what I did was, the Nunes memo came out in February and remember -- there was argument about whether it misrepresented what was in the FISA warrant application. Well now we have the application. A lot of redacted parts, a lot of black out parts. So we can't talk about the whole thing, but we can compare it to what the Nunes memo said. The Nunes memo was not very long; it was 13 paragraphs long. You could look at each one and say is this right, is this right, is this right? On the most contentious point, the point about whether the FBI told the court that the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC were behind the dossier and the Nunes memo said they didn't do that. Now we can see that in fact they did not. So, the release of the FISA warrant has been very good because it has helped settle an argument that's been going on for months INGRAHAM: Jan, I'm sure you have a different view of that. Democrats have been you know adamant over the weekend that this release was great for them. It's great for all of what the left has been saying about the need to surveil this one guy, Carter Page, because he's been a problem for a long time. JAN RONIS, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST AND ATTORNEY: Yes well keep in mind the attachment to the FISA warrant containing the Michael Steel (ph) document was only an attachment, a very small part of it. And these warrants consist of multiple sources of information and informants and things of that nature. So that was only a very small part of it. The fact of the matter is, there were multiple extensions. We don't have all the information but these judges, and I would like to emphasize all of them are republicans, found that there was probable cause to believe there was some criminal activity afoot and that they had to go to this extraordinary remedy of authorizing -- INGRAHAM: -- why haven't they arrested -- Carter Page is a guy they have been watching for years. Two years later, Jan, I mean he's willing to cooperate on every front, that wasn't also in the FISA application I believe. They didn't mention the fact that Carter Page was like, what questions do you want answered? RONIS: Well, these warrants were issued long before Carter Page was aware there was a criminal investigation targeting among other people him. So that part is inaccurate. And the fact of the matter is the federal government in these criminal investigations, witnessed by the fact of this Russian inquiry, these things take a long time. It's very complicated and involving -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: -- just so happened to happen in the fall of 2016 and going into December 2016. The timing is very curious. I mean it didn't have anything to do with the Trump situation. But Congressman, you were mentioned today on another network and again it's the usual thing, it's kind of like a personal invective. You don't care what the truth is. It's all about propping up Trump. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I saw a tweet from Representative Jim Jordan today who said, just sort of backing up the Nunes memo, that essentially this was a product of an effort to mislead the FISA courts because they never informed the FISA courts about the bias inherent in this dossier. And it is right there in black and white, in this foot note. You have to assume that they suggest that you haven't read the documents or perhaps you haven't read to know what you're talking about -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Or you don't care -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- or you don't care what they say. (END VIDEO CLIP) JORDAN: They could've said it so plain. They said candidate a, campaign b, NFL team 26 (ph). It was the most convoluted way you could say it. Why not just say the document was paid for by the Clinton campaign? Just come out straight with it and tell the court? They wouldn't do that. And remember what we learned just a few weeks ago. The third round of questioning, Peter Strzok -- I was asking about the dossier. He confirmed for the first time, the FBI confirmed they were getting parts of the dossier from Bruce Ohr. Bruce Ohr, whose wife Nellie worked for Fusion. So it's coming to Bruce Ohr, going to the FBI. Was that what they used to take (ph) to the FISA court? This is as scary as it gets. And that's why the Nunes memo was right on target. Byron's column lays that out, and the fact that they are saying this is just wrong. If the dossier wasn't important, why did you lead with it? Why didn't you go tell the -- if you're so concerned about what's going on -- (CROSSTALK) INGRAHAM: We're going to have to -- if you're going to reference it, why not go all in and reference -- this is from Hillary Clinton. She paid for it. Maybe true, this guy led to some you know, criminal convictions before, this Christopher Steele guy. Got a way to get rid of him (ph). And they did say that they parted way with him in one of the applications. However Byron, it is curious if they're going to mention that, why not go with it? Why -- it's like a -- kind of like covering your you know what kind of reference, but oblique enough that maybe the judges antennae (ph) didn't go off. YORK: But it was -- it was the essential part of the application. INGRAHAM: How do we know that? YORK: Well, when you look at it, they talk about Carter Page's past. He had had run-ins with the FBI because the Russians tried to recruit him. That was in the past. So for them to get a warrant in October of 2016, there had to be something new. And the new material were the allegations in the dossier. They could easily have named the Clinton campaign. They referred to Donald Trump as candidate 1 in the application and Hillary Clinton as candidate 2. They refer to the GOP as political party 1. They could have referred to the democrats as party 2. The final thing is, they say in that famous footnote that there was a U.S. person who wanted, they speculate, who wanted to discredit the Trump campaign. That could have been a democratic donor, a progressive activist. The could have been a never Trumper, an angry business associate, an ex- wife, it could have been anyone. They never give you an idea of what was. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was Hillary Clinton. INGRAHAM: Jan, Trump the disruptor, the topic of my ANGLE, I think he really -- he's turning over the applecart in this city much to the consternation of the old bipartisan establishment. Set aside the obsession with Russia and all that, he got elected because most people think that the Clintons, not so much the Obamas but at least the Clintons and that whole crowd were so steeped in corruption that they're willing to take a flyer on Trump. And looking at that poll with 45 percent, 46, whatever is now -- I mean my goodness. I say if the press were 40 percent less biased, his numbers would probably be at 60 percent. Do you disagree with that? I mean he's at 45 percent with all this stuff. JANIS: Well, with respect to your point that he got elected because of you know, the corruption within the democratic party, the fact of the matter is he got elected because of the assistance from the Russian government. That is undisputed at this point. INGRAHAM: Oh, my God, Jan -- JANIS: Even the republicans believe that. INGRAHAM: -- oh really? But he got elected -- a single vote was changed because of Russia's involvement? Oh, OK. I guess I must've missed that great evidentiary treasure trove that was dumped on me -- (CROSSTALK) JANIS: -- in addition to the assistance he got from Russia, Hillary Clinton did win by a margin of approximately three million of the popular vote. INGRAHAM: OK, so you want to go pure democracy, OK, we'll work on amending the Constitution and I will have you back on the show. God bless you, but I don't understand why that's the argument. Congressman Jordan, 100 people have come out in this Ohio wrestling deal. Are they hounding you? Where are we on this? I mean you were an assistant coach at 20 -- 21 years old? JORDAN: Yeah, there was -- I mean hundreds of coaches and administrators. INGRAHAM: A hundred people -- 100 people came out? JORDAN: If any type of abuse have been reported to me, I would have dealt with it. What reason wouldn't you? You want the best for your athletes. You want them to compete. You care about them. You work with them, train with them every single day. But you know, the investigation is going on -- we'll see. We've been clear that every single assistant coach and all kinds of wrestlers came forward and said the same thing I have and you know why they say that? Because it's true. INGRAHAM: How much does this hurt though? Because this is a great experience for you and -- JORDAN: Well what hurts is, what hurts is -- INGRAHAM: People were hurt. JORDAN: Yeah, those guys you spent so much time with, trying to help them achieve their goals and then to have this come out. INGRAHAM: And we've had our problems in the (inaudible) so we got to clean all that up (ph) -- thank you so much. JORDAN: You bet. Thank you. INGRAHAM: And democrats insist the FBI's FISA application of course makes Devin Nunes less credible, while his supporters say the opposite is true. Which is it? The Congressman joins us exclusively us next. INGRAHAM: Remember the Nunes memo? Well back in February, The House intel committee under the leadership of Devin Nunes, made public a memorandum alleging the FBI abused its authority in obtaining a FISA warrant against former Trump campaign aide Carter Page. Well, over the weekend the Trump administration released the previously top-secret FISA warrant used against Page and "The Washington Examiner"'s Byron York opined that the new documents bolstered the Nunes memo. But "The Washington Post"'s Phillip Bump had a the completely different take, writing that the warrant damaged Nunes' credibility. To try to sort it all out? Well let's bring in Congressman Devin Nunes himself. Congressman, good to see ya. REP. DEVIN NUNES (R), CALIFORNIA: Nice to see you, good to be here. INGRAHAM: So first interview since this came out. What do you think about the criticism? NUNES: Well, we're really happy it came out. We have been fighting for this for months. The FISA application -- the FIA and the renewals to be put out for the public to see. There are still a lot of redactions. We would like for those to be unredacted so that the American public has a chance to see this in full transparency. INGRAHAM: Now let's watch some -- this is just a sliver of the criticism that you received. And I know that's nothing new for you, but over the weekend after this was released. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I basically wrote this entire memo to mislead the American public without ever having read the FISA application. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They were lying when they said that the FISA judges were fooled because they were not told that part of the base of the application. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Devin Nunes I think is a useful idiot for the Russian government. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Your reaction from that? NUNES: I enjoy it. Just bring it on. The more they do, the more the attack, the more we know that we are right over the target. They cannot deny, the major point of the memo was to say the dossier was used in this application. It made up the bulk of the FISA. Even with the redactions, you can see that's the case. INGRAHAM: I want to ask you about that particular part. Let's quote from A FISA expert David Kris on the warrant application on the website Lawfare (ph). This is what he said. Now we can see that the footnote disclosing Steele's possible bias takes up more than a full page in the applications. There is literally no way the FISA court could have missed it. The FBI gave the court enough information to evaluate Steele's credibility. And that basic point's being repeated quite often. NUNES: By the left. So one of the things that you have to realize now is with all the press -- is the press, certain members of the press work for the democratic party. And the Lawfare (ph) blog has been one of them. I mean, they've been -- every day there's some new attack out. So, I don't put a lot of credibility into what they say. The fact of the matter is you have to present verified information to the court. And let's not forget, to open up a counterintelligence investigation into a campaign, unprecedented. But then to use these invasive types of capabilities on an American citizen that should be very, very seldom used. In this case, not only did they use it, but they used it with information from the other candidate's campaign, and it wasn't verified. INGRAHAM: Well what they said about Steele, what they put in the application is that there was reason to trust him. They don't refer to him by name. Source 1. NUNES: Yeah, Source 1. INGRAHAM: Well there's reason -- he's credible because other information, Source 1 had given us had led to criminal convictions. Is that not good enough for you? NUNES: That is not. INGRAHAM: Why? NUNES: That's absolutely not the case. If we are going to go to secret courts and first of all I believe it doesn't follow the rules and regulations. Just because the source was good in one case doesn't mean the next time they're going to bring information forward that it's not going to be, that it doesn't have to be verified. This is a secret court. That information must be vetted and verified. INGRAHAM: But they didn't name a number of other people and we have a full page of the application that we'll will put up on the screen but there's a lot of people who weren't named. So there were Candidate 1, Candidate 2, Source 1, Source 2. And you can see it in the actual application, you know -- in the actual application. NUNES: That's why -- they really had to use-- they really had to use like word puzzles to get into how they described in the footnote where they supposedly told the court that it was paid for by the democrats and possibly -- they speculate -- INGRAHAM: -- well they didn't say that specifically. They said in opposition to the president, correct? NUNES: That's correct. INGRAHAM: Right. NUNES: But they could've easily said it was paid for by Candidate 2. INGRAHAM: And they did not say that, why? NUNES: I believe because that's crazy. Can you imagine? Do we live in a country today, I guess we do actually live in a country because this actually did happen; but where we can go hire you know, private former contractors to go out and in this case, a former British agent, to go dig up dirt on your opponent, take it in the FBI and DOJ that you control, feed it into them so they can open up a counterintelligence investigation without any defense there, without any grand jury, and go and get get all of your communications. And look, that's why they wanted to have Carter Page. That's why they wanted all of his electronic communications. Like I keep hearing this argument well it wasn't until after he was off the campaign. In the FISA application itself it says they believe he's the guy who's running this collusion effort. So clearly, they think he is still involved in the campaign and clearly this guy had his rights abused. INGRAHAM: Marco Rubio actually made this point. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R), FLORIDA: I don't think they did anything wrong. I think they went to the court, they got the judges to approve it. They laid out all the information and there was a lot of reasons unrelated to the dossier for why they wanted to look at Carter Page, and Carter Page was not a key member of the Trump campaign. And the Trump campaign has said that. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: So it was one element. But he says the FBI didn't do anything wrong. NUNES: Well, we're entitled to our opinions and I am a big fan of the senator. But in this case, we have followed this closely. We -- INGRAHAM: And you're suggesting he hasn't. NUNES: Well I'm not saying -- I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that -- (CROSSTALK) NUNES: -- if this is the way the FISA court's are going to behave, if this is you can take political dirt, open up investigations into political campaigns, this is how a democratic republic falls apart. It's just unacceptable. INGRAHAM: It's not -- NUNES: Nobody in their right mind. If the shoe was on the other foot right down the street here, you would have protests in the street, cars being blocked, fires in the street, tires being burned and I guarantee you all the heads would've rolled already at FBI and DOJ and you'd have all the major newspapers, all the major media saying what a crime this was that this happened. INGRAHAM: Was that footnote a CYA footnote -- so they can say look, we've referenced this. This was someone who didn't like Candidate 1. We referenced this. NUNES: Yeah. INGRAHAM: Because they did go out of the way to put it in the footnote. That is a very -- NUNES: Yeah and that's why it's so -- I think you make a good point and this is what I was trying to say earlier, you have to really desperately try to put the words together the way they did instead of just having a simple definition which could have been Candidate 2 hired Fusion GPS, right -- or U.S. person 1 to hire Source 1 to go get the information. That was really simple to explain. The courts would've understood it easily and I think the courts would have -- they should have rejected, I'm not sure if they would've, but they should've. INGRAHAM: Four republican appointees -- judges, federal district court judges. Four. NUNES: Yeah, I don't blame the judges. I think the judges were misled. INGRAHAM: You don't think they should have asked more questions? I mean, if I saw -- NUNES: Well it's hard to -- INGRAHAM: -- that was a prominent -- forget saying it was the majority of the case to open up this warrant, but if I saw political opposition, I would have asked more questions. Who is this political opposition? You know? Who is -- NUNES: Well and sadly -- sadly we don't -- yeah you should have asked that -- but also sadly we don't have any transcripts, so we don't believe there any transcripts from those hearings. INGRAHAM: The left and some neoconservatives saying that you and your committee have done enormous amount of damage to the FISA process, that putting all this out there, pushing this issue as it is will ultimately compromise our national security because people are not going to be willing to put themselves out to give information to keep America safe. You knew they that they were going to say that and -- NUNES: They have been saying that forever. So remember when we first -- let's just first -- we gotta call it as it is. When we first were writing a memo, they said oh, my God, he's going to destroy the whole process. He's going to disclose sources and methods. That's the end of the whole process. Did that happen? No. In fact, once we released the memo, what did they do? They said oh my God, he took 400 pages and got it down to 3 pages. Yeah, because it was a memo and we were under strict confines to try to keep it as short as possible. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: And by the way, the redactions in this document, or documents, they are significant. And it does discuss prior investigations, however, into Carter Page. They had been watching him for some time. So doesn't that indicate that there was information on Page. He was meeting in these conferences, had some contact with government officials. They had ample reason along with Papadopoulos to open an investigation, that's what your critics are saying. NUNES: Carter Page -- INGRAHAM: A foreign agent? NUNES: -- was not a foreign agent. And what did the FBI due back in 2014 and 15? They wouldn't interview the guy. That would have been place to start. You don't open up an investigation into a campaign and then turn around and get a FISA warrant so that you can go and grab a lot of information that had to have come from the campaign. This is, back and 13 14 they ran an investigation the way it's supposed to be run. An don't forget, another thing that wasn't told to the court, they did not want to tell the car that Carter Page actually had cooperated with the FBI in the past and that he had also, the Russians didn't even want to recruit him because they thought he was an idiot. Those were the Russians' words, not anybody else's. The Russians said that. So there were a lot of reasons to believe that Carter Page was not acting as some type of foreign agent. INGRAHAM: What's next for you on this? NUNES: We want the president to take care of the rest of these redactions so that there's full transparency and sunlight for everyone to see. And then we've sent 42 names over to Chairman Gowdy and Chairman Goodlatte. We believe those interviews will be starting soon. INGRAHAM: Congressman, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it. NUNES: Thank you. INGRAHAM: And directly ahead, the mysterious case of an alleged Russian spy currently being held by U.S. authorities. Up next, a lawyer for Maria Butina reveals what you have not heard. INGRAHAM: There's a stunning new twist in the case of the accused Russian operative Maria Butina. According to a report from Reuters, Butina had far more extensive contacts with Washington officials than previously known, including meetings back in 2015 with the Obama treasury department officials and at the Federal Reserve. Robert Driscoll, Maria Butina's attorney, joins us now to tell us what else the media may be missing here in the story. I know that you met with your client today. ROBERT DRISCOLL, ATTORNEY FOR MARIA BUTINA: I did. INGRAHAM: How is she doing? DRISCOLL: She is in protective custody in a D.C. jail. So there isn't many people around, but overall, taking the baseline fact that she's in jail, she's doing pretty well. INGRAHAM: How did she find you to represent her? DRISCOLL: I had a previous client who through a friend of a friend recommended me when she got a letter from Congress. INGRAHAM: She told Congress last year that she received some funding from a Russian oligarch, Mr. Nikolaev. DRISCOLL: She said that in April. INGRAHAM: In April, OK. Why was he funding her? DRISCOLL: Because she founded a gun rights group in Russia. She grew up in Siberia. She went to Moscow. She founded a gun rights group. Now, it's very different in Russia than it would be here. You obviously don't go with the fight they tyranny with guns approach. It was more of a self- defense stance, another kind of group. But it was her issue, and she founded the group, and ended up finding some supporters, and this guy was a big supporter. INGRAHAM: And so to explain that, coming to the United States and working with the NRA. And I'm not a member of the NRA but I support the NRA on a lot of things. But you go on Twitter and it's like Maria Butina helped funnel millions of dollars for the Trump campaign through the NRA, through a Russian billionaire. They are painting a picture that is wild. She seemed to get around. She knew a lot of people in Washington. How did she get to know so many people so fast, 29 years old? DRISCOLL: I think part of it is when she founded the group in Moscow, she invited people to Moscow to support her group. The NRA sent a small delegation over, they met her, and then there were some exchanges back and forth where she went to NRA meetings and she hosted a couple meetings in Russia that people in the NRA came to there. And so she met some senior people in the NRA. And then when she came to the U.S. to go to school, she met her boyfriend who was active in Republican politics. And so she went around with him to different events. So she had her picture taken a lot of places, which is not really consistent with being a spy. All the pictures you see on TV are from her Facebook page which is open. INGRAHAM: Yes, but one of the accusations would be also of course that she's an unregistered foreign agent, which is not a spy, but if you are essentially doing lobbying of some sort for the Russian government or trying to influence America through other groups or associations, you must register as a foreign agent, as our people have to register. Paul Manafort, they are charging him with that as well, correct? DRISCOLL: First of all, in the history of FARA no one is ever really charged -- INGRAHAM: Foreign agent -- DRISCOLL: The Foreign Agent Registration Act. Secondly, the whole point of FARA is to avoid unwitting propaganda so that if you hire a senator to write an op-ed saying that Malta is great, you know the former senator is being paid by Malta. The point of the act is not to prevent Russian citizens who are obviously Russian and identify as Russian from talking about, and again -- INGRAHAM: What did she talk about the Clinton treasury people with, what was that all about? DRISCOLL: I think in that instance she acted as a translator for Alexander Torshin. Torshin is himself a big gun guy, and so he joined her group a year after she formed. And so that was a great ally for her to have. INGRAHAM: What kind of visa was she on? DRISCOLL: On those times I think she was probably on a tourist visa or because she was giving a speech to the NRA, I'm not sure how those visas -- INGRAHAM: For how many years? Did she have to go back and forth? DRISCOLL: Yes, she went back and forth for a couple years, and then most recent times she was on a student visa when she was getting her masters at American University in foreign relations. INGRAHAM: And Lavrov made a big deal of this over the weekend, wants her released. She's caught up in this hysteria over Russia, is that what she feels like? DRISCOLL: It's good and bad. Obviously people in Russia are concerned for her. And the foreign ministry has a free Maria Butina hashtag going with her picture as their avatar on their Twitter page. But I would really like to separate her from the rest of these problems that are going on. She has nothing to do with it. She is just a student, an ambitious young woman who is active in the NRA, active in conservative circles, who has nothing to do with the Mueller probe, has nothing to do with any of these things. But it comes up at this time so it's very difficult. INGRAHAM: Robert, thanks for giving us the update. We really appreciate it. And it's no secret that the Obama administration officials, come on, they were asleep at the switch over Russian meddling. And as our next guest writes in a new column for "The Hill," they are placing the blame squarely on President Trump. Joining us now, Monica Crowley from the London Center for Policy Research. Monica, great to see you. Something about this Maria Butina thing, I want to get your comments -- something seems odd about this. And again, it's just my intuition. Robert gave us his take on the case. Doesn't -- it seems a little too -- MONICA CROWLEY, LONDON CENTER FOR POLICY RESEARCH: Convenient? INGRAHAM: Cute by half. It's just your instincts about things. I know a lot of Russian people come over, they do business. Apparently if you ever did any business in Russia or ever spent any amount of time there and brushed elbows with any government official at any point, you are probably a Russian operative. Talk about the red scare. My goodness. CROWLEY: Yes. And look, these are early days in all these investigations, Laura so we shall see. But it does seem a little convenience. INGRAHAM: Let's talk about your column. You wrote a fascinating piece, everybody has to read it, about how the Obama administration basically just sat on this issue of Russian meddling until, oops, Donald Trump won. CROWLEY: Yes, long before the 2016 election, Laura, Russia was engaged in widespread cyber aggression against the United States. And the president at the time, Barack Obama, and all of his intelligent chiefs, John Brennan at the CIA, James Clapper at National Intelligence, James Comey and his predecessor Robert Mueller at the FBI, they were all well aware that Russian state backed hacking groups, Cozy Bear, Fancy Bear, and others were engaged in this cyber espionage, and yet they didn't do anything about it. What I write about in the column is the reason why. They didn't move on this even though they had full knowledge of it for years leading into the campaign. It's because what was paramount to them was getting and then implementing the Iranian nuclear deal. And so therefore they didn't want to rock the boat with Moscow, and that appeasement extended well beyond ignoring their cyber espionage. It extended into canceling plans for a missile defense systems in eastern Europe, disclosing specifics of our nuclear arsenal, negotiating away U.S. advantages on arms control, and of course looking the other way when Russia annexed Crimea, invaded eastern Ukraine, and reentered the Middle East. INGRAHAM: Did we ever really determine what the flexibility was, Obama referencing it in that convo with Medvedev? There was an aggressive lack of curiosity on the part of the press when he did that in 2012. Did we every really figure that out? CROWLEY: I think he meant was, look, we will let you go to town as long as you give us the Iranian nuclear deal. That was paramount to that administration. And what we now know, Laura, is that they are masters of projection. They have been accusing Donald Trump of what they themselves were guilty of, including through their inaction and their excuse making and blame shifting on Russia, actual collusion with Moscow. So now to deflect attention away from their own misdeeds, potential crimes, and their own catastrophic policy failures and loss of a presidential election, they are trying to smear the sitting president. INGRAHAM: Yes, the finger is always pointing back at you. Monica, thank you so much. Great piece. CROWLEY: Thanks, Laura. INGRAHAM: And if you need more proof the Democratic Party is having an identity crisis, either Jim Comey or charismatic socialists could soon become their new face. We'll explain next. INGRAHAM: Don't you love a good identity crisis? The Democrats are having one. Practically every day it's spilling out. And case in point, Jim Comey, now in the Democrats' corner, is providing campaign advice. He did such a great job as an Intel leader, tweeting, I quote, "Democrats, please, please don't lose your mind and rush to the socialist left." Good luck with that. And a new report by the A.P. claiming that democratic socialism is surging in the age of Trump. You cannot make this up. So which way is the party going to go as we race towards the midterms? Here to analyze with us is Democratic pollster Doug Schoen along with former Arkansas governor, FOX News contributor, Mike Huckabee. All right, Doug, you've got to speak to the Democrats here, because when Jim Comey is your avatar, or it's Alexandria Cortez, I don't know what to say, but take it away. DOUG SCHOEN, DEMOCRATIC POLLSTER: I guess I would say Jim Comey, you screwed up the last election in a multiplicity of ways. Why don't you just keep your opinions to yourself? We Democrats have enough problems with you interposing yourself. And as for the Democratic Party, my goodness, it has moved so far to the left. As a free-market capitalist myself who believes in a mixed economy and a strong national defense, I have nothing in common with Ocasio-Cortez and the democratic socialists, and nor do the mass of moderate voters that decide midterm and indeed most elections. And I am just sick to my stomach, sick at heart that my party has left me in ways that I find difficult to understand. INGRAHAM: Governor Huckabee, Arkansas roots, Bill Clinton, whatever you say about Clinton, he understood the heartland. He had a sensibility. I was going to say he had a touch, but I don't want to say. He had a sensibility, OK. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Sorry, it's late night TV. He had a sensibility, governor. And some of these new faces, you don't see it. MIKE HUCKABEE, FORMER ARKANSAS GOVERNOR: No, you don't see it. By the way, I'm very tempted to not say anything and say let my friend Doug Schoen continue to talk because he's making more sense than the rest of the Democrat Party put together. Bill Clinton did understand middle America. He campaigned on the third way. He got elected because he wasn't way out to the far left. They would do well to listen to Bill Clinton and to understand why he won twice for the presidency. Unfortunately they are not listening to people like Bill Clinton, at least the way Bill Clinton believed in the '90s. They are listening to the girl wonder from New York and they are listening to Bernie Sanders, and they are listening to people who oppose Dianne Feinstein in San Francisco because she wasn't left enough for them. That's really amazing. INGRAHAM: And this is all borne out, guys, with the DCCC chairman today. You've got to watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think the Democratic Socialist Party of America, do you think they will have a place in the Democratic caucus? REP. BEN RAY LUJAN, (D) NEW MEXICO: When you see the work that Senator Sanders and the work that Alexandria is doing, they are driving a conversation about how policies impact people that they're fighting to represent. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think that conversation helps you win back the House or does it hurt your efforts? LUJAN: Any time we've having a conversation in the country that is about how you can make people's lives better, that's a positive conversation that we should have. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Doug, here's my question to you. If the Republicans are at a seven-point deficit, is what Karl Rove said earlier tonight on FOX, and seven-point deficit with independents, are those independents going to swing toward Ocasio-Cortez and everything is free? You are going to get everything free, lollipops are going to fall from the sky. Or are they going to move back to Trump and say we don't like everything he tweets but I like what's in my pocketbook. SCHOEN: I would say this. If the president is able to pivot away from inevitable and ongoing discussions about Russia and talk about the economy and his plans for the future, he will do better. His numbers in "The Wall Street Journal" poll went up, not down. Given everything that's happened and certainly has ratings because of the economy are fueling an increase in the Republican vote. I just think that this socialist swing in the Democratic Party, I agree with my friend, Governor Huckabee, is only going to hurt the party. I worked for Bill Clinton. I am proud of that. I am proud of the balanced budget, the crime bill, welfare reform. This is a different Democratic Party. And people in the heartland haven't changed. They voted for Donald Trump for goodness sake. And I think the governor would agree with me that this Democratic Party can only do badly, not well, given what's happened in the country. INGRAHAM: Governor, we've got to show you the cover of "New York Magazine" which is showing the frontrunner to be, let's just say no moderate Democrat, Clinton type. It's Elizabeth Warren as the frontrunner, and she seems to be running in a spectacular pantsuit. I like that. She is pretty fit. Elizabeth Warren, she's a favorite, so is Bernie Sanders. And they get the crowds, they get the juice, they get the excitement. You have to go where the excitement is. They went with Obama. Obama could fill a stadium. Is Joe Biden going to fill a stadium? I don't think so. I don't think Kamala Harris will fill a stadium, but maybe Bernie or Elizabeth will. HUCKABEE: And let's not forget that when Barack Obama ran in 2008, he was not a leftist candidate. He believed in traditional marriage because of the Bible. He was a person who believed in hard work. He believed in bringing the country together. He talked about there weren't two states red and blue. There was -- he was as centrist in his message as he could have been. It's just that he didn't govern that way once he got there. Let me say something that will surprise you. I don't want to see the Democrats go this far left because is not good for the country. SCHOEN: I agree. HUCKABEE: We need two good, strong parties, both of whom represent the mainstream of America with some differences. That's not what we are getting, again, I called her the girl wonder from New York. SCHOEN: I couldn't agree more. We are patriots before we are partisans. INGRAHAM: Guys, I've got to go unfortunately, but you are making great points. And whatever is best for the country going forward, that's where we all should be. And thanks so much. And President Trump, by the way, issuing a major warning to the Iranian regime. General Wesley Clark will be here next to react. INGRAHAM: They don't call President Trump they counterpuncher for nothing. On Sunday Iran's president warned the United States against pursuing a hardline against the mullahs, going so far as to, quote, war with Iran is the mother of all wars. President Trump didn't like that and he hit back, hit back hard on Twitter, writing in all caps, imagine if he had boldface, "Never, ever, threaten the United States again or you will suffer consequences the likes of which few throughout history have ever suffered before." Joining me now to make sense of it, General Wesley Clark, the former supreme allied commander of NATO and a Democratic candidate for president back in 2004. General, Pompeo comes out over the weekend, John Bolton, and President Trump. This was a coordinated triumvirate, correct? Messaging to Iran, and your reaction? GEN. WESLEY CLARK, FORMER NATO SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER: I think it's good to have the coordination. I am a little worried about what President Trump said because when you say never again, it's like a redline. And I thought we learned from the experience President Obama had in Syria, don't do redlines. Don't say never again. What does that mean? The next time Rouhani says something we're going to bomb him? Look, you have to have to use diplomacy. And I like to use diplomacy at the lowest possible level. I think it's great Mike Pompeo spoke out. I think the president would've been stronger if he hadn't responded. Let the secretary of state take the lead. INGRAHAM: I get that. I did an "Angle," I did my monologue tonight, general, on the old order. He is disrupting all those old norms. Whatever the diplomatic niceties of yesterday, what those were, for now, those are gone. Let me - - let me -- CLARK: It's not about niceties, Laura. It's about being effective. When the president of the United States speak, he has to mean it. INGRAHAM: Unlike Obama, I think he does mean it. Did you criticize on North Korea? You didn't like the fact that he was tweeting, right? CLARK: No, I didn't criticize him for the deal. I said when you criticized him for the North Koreans. I said when he got there, the preparatory work hadn't been done, and therefore you don't know whether he got anything or not, and we still don't know what he's going to get out of it. INGRAHAM: I'm not talking about that. No, no, what I'm talking about, general, stay with me. What I'm talking about, he was criticized relentlessly for the tweeting of little rocket man, and I get it. It's not the way things are done. And I understand we want real results and we'll see what happens with North Korea. He was slammed when he moved the embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv. All hell would break loose. Well, we had problems, but all hell has not broken loose. It's going to work out. But half of this I think is the old experts didn't accomplish much. We didn't accomplish much with our diplomacy with Iran. I know you probably loved the Iran deal. He didn't. He won the presidency, and he got us out of it. And now we're trying to work with Russia. It might not work at all. CLARK: Let me just say something here. The old experts, starting from the end of World War II, maintained peace for the United States -- INGRAHAM: Post cold war, general. Stay in the present, post cold war. CLARK: And what happened in the cold war is there was a failure in the George W. Bush first-term to take seriously the terrorist threat. That is all on the record. If Condoleezza Rice had really done the serious work, we might not have had 9/11. And 9/11 unleashed a wave of fear in this country, and we're still trying to recover from it. INGRAHAM: You are not going to -- I was for the Iraq war. And I think it was a huge mistake. We're not going to relitigate it. But my point is, President Trump saw the old way didn't work. He is trying a new way. CLARK: I think if you -- INGRAHAM: General Clark, we'll have you back when we have a longer conversation. It's great to have you on, as always. CLARK: Not in every case. Have me on, Laura. Let's talk about this. INGRAHAM: All right, we will have you back on radio as well. We will take a break and be right back. INGRAHAM: Tomorrow night we are going to have Reince Priebus on. Apparently he talks to the president fairly regularly. We are going to talk to him about the madness that is the anti-Trump hysteria resistance. Tomorrow on radio, I'll talk to Alan Dershowitz. We have a great show on tap. Tune in to radio tomorrow. That is it for me tonight. Remember, follow me on Twitter. I like reading your tweets, even the mean ones, those are entertaining. Shannon Bream and the "FOX News at Night" team, fabulous show on tap. Shannon? Load-Date: July 25, 2018 End of Document Media Condemn Trump-Putin Presser; Trump's 'No' Sparks Press Furor; Trump Says 'Fake News' Wants War; Furor Over Michael Cohen Tape; Backlash Against The Media Fox News Network MEDIA BUZZ 11:00 AM EST July 22, 2018 Sunday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7729 words Byline: Howard Kurtz, Liz Claman, Trish Regan Guests: Kat Timpf, Jessica Tarlov Body HOWARD KURTZ, MEDIA BUZZ SHOW HOST, FOX NEWS: On "Buzz Media" from New York this Sunday, President Trump battling back against thundering (ph) condemnation from the media on the left, the middle, the right over his press conference with Vladimir Putin even after he tried to clarify his remarks. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: You have been watching perhaps one of the most of disgraceful performances by an American president at a summit in front of a Russian leader, certainly that I've ever seen. DON LEMON, CNN HOST: He has gone from snarling alpha dog in Brussels blasting our allies to Putin's lapdog in Helsinki. JILL WINE-BANKS, CONTRIBUTOR, MSNBC: I would say that his performance today will live an infamy as much as the Pearl Harbor attack or Kristallnacht. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: And plenty of attention paid to a steady stream of criticism though (ph) hardly unanimous on Fox News. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NEIL CAVUTO, ANCHOR, FOX BUSINESS: And that's what made it disgusting, that's what made his performance disgusting. I'm sorry, it's the only way I feel. It's not a right or left thing to me, it's just wrong. JACK KEANE, ANALYST, FOX NEWS: To stand there on a world stage and appease Russia in disfavor to our intelligence community was a thing that shocked me. SEAN HANNITY, HOST, FOX NEWS: And according to the abusively biased press, well, the sky is literally falling. The world as you know it is now over, and the president that you and the American people duly elected is a traitor, in the pocket of Vladimir Putin and Russia. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Do some of the media attacks go too far? Why does Trump say the press is risking war with Russia? And are the president's own advisers hurting him with damaging leaks after Helsinki? We'll ask his former press secretary in a Sunday exclusive, a conversation with Sean Spicer. Plus, the president hits back over a New York Times report that Michael Cohen was secretly taping him in one case about a possible payment involving former Playboy model Karen McDougal. Does that justify this latest media explosion? I'm Howard Kurtz and this is "Media Buzz." Perhaps the biggest media firestorm of the Trump presidency began as soon as he said these words in Helsinki in response to an AP reporter's question. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My first question for you, sir, is who do you believe? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Dan Coats came to me and some others. They said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it's not Russia. I will say this. I don't see any reason why it would be. I have great confidence in my intelligence people. But I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: The next day while the press dubbed a do over, Trump tried to clarify his remarks. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: I came back and I said, what is going on, what is the big deal? So I got a transcript. I reviewed it. A key sentence in my remarks, I said the word "would" instead of "wouldn't." The sentence should have been, I don't see any reason why I wouldn't or why it wouldn't be Russia. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: And most of the media reaction ranged from scepticism to outright mockery. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ERIN BURNETT, CNN ANCHOR: How stupid does Trump think we Americans are? The president's excuse for his embarrassing press conference where he sided with Vladimir Putin over his own intelligence chief does not add up. KATY TUR, CORRESPONDENT, NBC NEWS: Guys, this is one of those times where the president's denial abut what he said all but confirms what he said. TUCKER CARLSON, CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL COMMENTATOR, FOX NEWS: So that's the hostage tape. The president buckled to criticism. That's not what they're saying but that's exactly what happened. He buckled. And that happens. This is politics after all. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Joining us now to analyze the coverage here in New York: Liz Claman of Fox Business, the host of "Countdown to the Closing Bell"; Kat Timpf, National Review writer and Fox News contributor; and Jessica Tarlov, research director at Bustle.com and also a Fox News contributor. Liz, let's start with this media explosion over Helsinki. It was perhaps the most intense level of moral condemnation I've seen since Charlottesville perhaps in his whole presidency. Do you think it's been fair? LIZ CLAMAN, HOST, FOX BUSINESS: I have to say that initially when you look at all of the attacks, it was a real pile-on. But from every side, Howard, you even showed some of the Fox News journalists here and some of the pundits here, and when you got the friendlies, so-called the friendlies, because, you know, we -- each network picks a didn't perspective on things, that's always been the case even well before President Trump. When you see that the Fox News journalists were almost to a person coming out and condemning or at least criticizing how the president have handled this, you have got to ask yourself. You know, the president called the other side fake media. Are we now the fake news media? You know, it just did not strike a positive chord, especially considering what happened. KURTZ: That was exactly the question I was going to ask you because you not only had many people at Fox putting that aside for a moment. Wall Street Journal editorial page, a personal international embarrassment. Weekly Standard said Congress should censure the president. So, it becomes harder for the president as he often does, to paint this as liberal media run amok. KAT TIMPF, WRITER, NATIONAL REVIEW: Right. Oftentimes, whatever the president does, there are people who will stand behind him. We had Newt Gingrich coming out and saying that he had -- that this is the worst state (ph) of his presidency. KURTZ: Most serious mistake. TIMPF: Most serious mistake of his presidency. But, yeah, everybody was kind of in agreement on this issue. But the president still blamed it on the fake news media which I thought was very interesting, as you said, what, are we fake news media now? But I think that it was just a bad day. There was really no way to spin it any other way. The publicity was not good. How could it have been? KURTZ: At the same time, Jessica, do you think that some of the liberal criticism went a too far? We saw on MSNBC Jill Wine-Banks comparing this to 9/11, to Pearl Harbor, to Kristallnacht. Charles Blow of New York Times declared Trump to be a traitor, even before the press conference, as soon as he got to Helsinki. JESSICA TARLOV, RESEARCH DIRECTOR, BUSTLE.COM: Traitor has been thrown around since President Trump assumed office. You have people even -- KURTZ: But really this week. TARLOV: No, really this week. It is a lot to stomach to see him standing there next to Vladimir Putin who we know is a murderous thug dictator. And not only say I'm not sure what he did but, you know, equivocate on everything and give him far more credit than he do and kind of make him seem like the big guy in the room. We are the big dogs in the room here. We are, you know, the exceptional nation. KURTZ: I get that you're critical. But the treason and traitor go too far. It was a botched press conference. TARLOV: Well, there are definitions of this thing. I think it's more than a botched press conference. But this is part of the issue. We have only talked about impeachment as well. You can't just throw that around without grounds for it, like, what are you going to impeach him on? We are the reasons to call him a traitor? And we have definitions of those. So, yes, I think that we go too far. But as Liz tried to pointed out here, this is both sides of the aisle. Everyone is ashamed of this. CLAMAN: But what was stacked against President Trump from the get go? The deck was stacked against him. But he was the dealer. I think that was the problem. Two-hour closed door meeting, that was by his choice, no aides present. And then suddenly pictures surfaced of Melania Trump, the first lady, and President Trump greeting Vladimir Putin because the Russian pool somehow got pictures of that greeting. So if I'm an American president, I am going to look and say, who are these guys? Where are my guys? He didn't seem to be narrative that we got of him sticking up for the American side. TIMPF: I still think that treason went a lot too far. And I think that when people hear word like treason in a media, a lot of people who are on President Trump's side are less likely to listen to any of it. KURTZ: Right. He turns them off. And look, at one point, the president said, why didn't you cover the meeting? Because the American side wasn't giving out any information about the closed door meeting. But when he did the clarification, reading from a script, people said things like hostage tape. Why can't the president say he misspoke without all of this or he didn't really mean it, he wasn't being sincere? TIMPF: I think it's because he waited so long to do it. After all this firestorm came out, he immediately said, I meant to say -- KURTZ: Right. TIMPF: I meant to say wouldn't, I didn't mean to say would. He gave two interviews on this channel. He did not mention that clarification once. So I think if he had done that, then I think people might have been more likely to believe him. But it seemed like it was kind of a last-ditch effort when he saw that people even on his own side were speaking out against him. KURTZ: Let me ask you about Dan Coats, the director of National Intelligence. It was an extraordinary spectacle of him being interviewed by NBC's Andrea Mitchell in Aspen. While the cameras were rolling, the president without bothering to tell his DNI had invited Putin to Washington this fall. And then he add some sort of careful criticism. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDREA MITCHELL, CHIEF FOREIGN AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT, NBC NEWS: How do you have any idea what happened in that meeting? DAN COATS, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: You are right, I don't know what happened in that meeting. If you asked me how that ought to be conducted, I would have suggested a different way, but that's not my role. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Then you have certain administrative officials telling the Washington Post Coats had gone rogue. Does this fuel the media narrative that this president doesn't necessarily consult his top national security advisers? TARLOV: Of course he does, but that's because it's true. And you can't get a more honest moment than him hearing that in front of -- I'm sorry, what? Which I think is what all of us were thinking -- KURTZ: Right. TARLOV: -- especially with the midterm election coming up. How does that benefit you to have Vladimir Putin here on American soil in the White House right before the elections where the Russia issue -- of course it's not the economy, it's not health care, but it certainly does matter. And to Kath's point about the clarification, the problem with it is not the 27 hours. The problem with it is that it's a lie. President Trump speaks English. He knows the difference between would and wouldn't. He doesn't think -- KURTZ: Where -- at what basis are you declaring that he is lying when he says he didn't mean to say what he said? TARLOV: The number of times that he has said before, and I know there are seven times where he accepted that Russian meddles in this election but he had overwhelming come down on the side of -- KURTZ: All right. Speaking of clarification, so Coats then put out a statement, Dan Coats, some press coverage mischaracterized. In no way I meant to be disrespectful or criticize the president. I'll let you make your point, but I do want to ask you about some of these leaks. Because self-serving leaks, people from behind the curtain are saying things like The Washington Post probably gave him 100 pages of briefings to be tough on Putin but he largely ignored it. Axios quoting a former senior White House official need a shower. Axios quoting a former national security official. Dude, this is a total blanking disgrace. The president has lost his mind. Should the press be letting people say that without their names attached? CLAMAN: Howard, you and I have a very comfortable position here as members of the American press where we expect that we are allowed to say or report what we want. In fact, this is our actual duty. But when the president's inner circle are some of the people dropping the dime on the president, do you hide that? Do you choose to hide that? I can't tell people how often we have gotten calls and dimes dropped by the inner circle. This is coming from people who if we told them who they were, you would be surprised they are very close and supportive of the president. But it goes back to sort of the confusion and cirque du soleil (ph) back flips to try by the president to misstate. Now, people make mistakes. You know, people are allowed to misspeak. They absolutely are. But why is it so difficult every time he is either talking about one person, Vladimir Putin or standing next to Vladimir Putin, that he suddenly can't do the Reagan, Mr. Gorbachev tear down that wall? KURTZ: Well, he is a very different president. CLAMAN: Nobody out there that said, I am not sure what Reagan really meant. KURTZ: Also, I just want to say that I don't think the press shouldn't report these leaks. I am just saying these are awfully cheap shots by people who are supposed to be on his side. Let me play for you some that became a huge story and involved one word. ABC's Cecilia Vega asking the president a question that was called a (INAUDIBLE). Take a listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CECILIA VEGA, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, ABC NEWS: Mr. President, is Russia still targeting the U.S.? Is Russia still targeting the U.S., Mr. President? TRUMP: Thank you very much. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right. Let's go. Make your way out. VEGA: No, you don't believe that to be the case? (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: So, Sarah Huckabee Sanders later said he wasn't saying no to the question. He was saying, no, I'm not taking any questions at this meeting. But, for example, Washington Post leaks story, Trump suggests Russia is no longer targeting U.S. Second line in smaller type, White House, words were misconstrued. TIMPF: I think that the media coverage of this might have been a little bit overblown. When I watched that video, you know, you need to have the subtitles on it. It's very hard to hear. It does look to me like he could have been just saying no, no, no, repeatedly. KURTZ: Yeah. TIMPF: He could have simply been saying no to answering questions. Of course something like The Washington Post is going to jump on that and saying he's taking Russia's side again especially -- KURTZ: Everybody jumped on it. TIMPF: -- given what the news cycle -- KURTZ: Yeah, that was just one headline. TIMPF: Right. Of course, given what the news cycle was at that time, of course everyone is going to jump on that. KURTZ: I just thought it was ambiguous. Everybody -- TIMPF: I though it was ambiguous too. KURTZ: Everybody seemed to just sort of blow it up. I have a tweet for you, Jessica. Let's put this up on the screen. There were many. We picked this one. "The fake news media wants so badly to see a major confrontation with Russia, even a confrontation that could lead to war. They are pushing so recklessly hard and hate the fact that I'll probably have a good relationship with Putin." Even a confrontation that could to war. I mean, the media like fighting and fist fights and bloody nose but -- TARLOV: But they don't want that. KURTZ: -- definitely not so much. TARLOV: Definitely not so much. You see that with the North Korea coverage as well and how everyone I think actually has been giving him his due credit for making progress, but also saying we need to be careful about this. And as the reports continue to roll out about what is really going on in North Korea, that was certainly warranted. He is over the top. We had our own John Roberts push back and say, am I the fake news media now? Am I the enemy of the people? And that's what this kind of rhetoric does -- CLAMAN: His policy versus his behavior, two totally different things. KURTZ: Interesting. CLAMAN: He has been toughest when it comes to sanctions. He has been unbelievably strong -- call it Manuchin from the treasury secretary standpoint. But these sanctions have really hurt Russia. KURTZ: Right. A real gap between the policies and the rhetoric, the tweets and so forth. I got to get a break. But I do want to put up The New Yorker cover for this week. Let's take a look at this. Every police (ph) magazine (INAUDIBLE) seem to find new ways of killing off the president. They do it almost every week. Ahead, Sean Spicer on his former boss dealing with the fallout from Helsinki and some striking admissions about his tenure in the White House. When we come back, Michael Cohen secretly taping his former boss Donald Trump about a former Playboy model. Is that a media bombshell or not so much? KURTZ: There was a massive media explosion when The New York Times disclosed that Donald Trump's former lawyer, Michael Cohen, was secretly taping him including a discussion of a possible payment to Karen McDougal, a former "Playboy" model, who told CNN she had an affair 12 years ago with Trump and that her story was bought and then killed by The National Enquirer. One of the Times report is Maggie Haberman said this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MAGGIE HABERMAN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, THE NEW YORK TIMES: It does raise questions as to why it is that the Trump campaign in October 2016 when the Wall Street Journal asked about these payments, asked about AMI and Karen McDougal, were told by the campaign, we know nothing about this. The president obviously did know something about it a month earlier. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: There was virtually wall to wall cable news coverage as soon as that New York Times story hit. Does this story deserve that kind of heavy coverage: TIMPF: Well, it kind of has everything, right? It has sex, it has deceit, it has -- KURTZ: Tapes. TIMPF: Tapes. KURTZ: Yeah. TIMPF: So I'm not surprised that it got so much coverage. But I don't know if it's really going to change anyone's mind. I actually think that most people do believe that Donald Trump cheated on his wife. I don't think that that -- KURTZ: And I think most people don't care. TIMPF: I think they don't care. Exactly. I think the people that supports the president, they see this as, you know, the fake news media being mean or trying to create problems. They look and they say that they like what the president is doing in this country and they don't really care about these kinds of stories. KURTZ: And what Rudy Giuliani in confirming the story said, Jessica, was that this was a possible payment and ultimately didn't happen, to reimburse The National Enquirer run by Trump's pal, David Pecker, for buying McDougal's story and killing it for $150,000, and what you said, Trump did nothing wrong. The problem is that at the end of the campaign, you had Hope Hicks telling The Wall Street Journal that Trump didn't know anything involving Karen McDougal. TARLOV: That's also how the Stormy Daniels' story went from the beginning where Trump denied that he knew about that and then eventually he had to back down off a bit. And Rudy even said on TV -- KURTZ: He reimbursed. TARLOV: -- there might be more to come. So, it is a familiar pattern. Kat is absolutely correct. The infidelity of this president is baked in. We all heard the Access Hollywood tapes and 62 million people still said, OK, he seems like a good guy, I'm going to vote for him. And that's the business, and you got Neil Gorsuch. I think it did deserve the coverage because Michael Cohen's plot line here is important. Obviously this is about the Michael Cohen investigation which is New York based. It has to do with taxi medallion businesses. KURTZ: Right. TARLOV: And all of that. But he is the keeper of many of Donald Trump's secrets. And if there are more tapes, that matters. And if it was campaign finance violation. I mean, that's where this could legally be a problem for the president, if they were using campaign fund. KURTZ: Let me share some of my reporting on this, because Michael Cohen and his team are convinced that this tape was preemptively leaked by the Trump side. A lot of journalists believe that as well, to kind of take the sting out of it, to reduce Cohen's value as a witness to Robert Mueller. And it does make Cohen look bad, secretly taping his boss at the time. But it is also clear that Cohen is trying to work his way through two challenges to figure out how and whether to cooperate with Mueller, perhaps reach some kind of deal. And at the same time, as he distanced himself from the president in at least one interview to own up to some of the things he did that maybe he's not proud of when he worked for Donald Trump to say that he's now president and he takes a different view of this and get that behind him. But let me put up for you, Liz, a tweet. You can expect that the next day the president would tweet with about this. Ana the key thing is the second sentence where the president says inconceivable that a lawyer would tape a client, totally unheard of and perhaps illegal. The good news is that your favorite president did nothing wrong. CLAMAN: Number one, not illegal in the state of New York. It is a one party audio tape system -- KURTZ: Right. CLAMAN: -- or rule where only one person has to know -- I know in Massachusetts where I worked in Boston at a television station, two party at the time that I was there, so both sides had to know. But this can be actually explained in certain cases when you look at the law and Judge Napolitano would probably say the same thing that it's almost like taking notes. But what's more interesting I think is that both sides are leaking or revealing things to different members of the media to advance their side. The media is being used in many cases. However, once you get it, is it your representation? Is it important for you to then reveal it? Well, of course if you have have it, you want to give it out there. But the question now becomes Rudy Giuliani saying that it's exculpatory. That's a little surprising. KURTZ: That kind of thing, that speaks -- CLAMAN: Exactly. KURTZ: Lanny Davis tweeting that Trump's tweet was false. That's also an opinion of an advocate. But at the same time, when you say Michael Cohen is an important player here and it does seem like this is sort of playing out with a lot of leaks. And I think, look, New York Times story was accurate, but what it means is open to media debate. TIMPF: Right, absolutely. Going back to the tweet, I think that it would be better off if President Trump would just not talk about this stuff at all because the media loves this story and the more he tweets about it, the more that the media is going to keep covering it. And so this isn't over yet. I think that we are going to see more and more of this kind of coverage. KURTZ: Same thing Stormy. And I get a lot of reaction online, you know, you clowns in (ph) the press, who cares? He was a celebrity businessman at the time. But again, it ultimately goes to veracity because of the past denials and that I think is a political problem for the president. TARLOV: It is. Again, it should be. It was anybody else. If it was President Obama or President Bush, it would be a huge problem. It happens to not be with this president. And to Kat's point -- KURTZ: It was the problem with President Clinton. I just got about 20 seconds. TARLOV: Oh. KURTZ: Go ahead. TARLOV: Yes. President Clinton got in trouble. I just mean that when they were elected, it was not -- there was no Access Hollywood tape when President Clinton got elected. I want to say about this story though, yes, the media loves it, but the Russia story is a lot more important. And I have seen some media criticism that I think is smart about losing interest in the Helsinki front line for the Playboy line because the Playboy line matters a lot less to voters in the end because -- KURTZ: Right. But it is quote, sexier. And on that note -- TARLOV: By definition, sexier. KURTZ: Jessica Tarlov, Kat Timpf, Liz Claman, great to see you all here in New York. Ahead, Sean Spicer on the media environment and what he got wrong and right as press secretary. But up next on "Media Buzz" from New York, one Fox anchor who spoke her mind about what happened in Helsinki. Trish Regan is here. KURTZ: One of the Fox anchors who spoke out forcefully about President Trump's performance with Vladimir Putin was Trish Regan. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRISH REGAN, ANCHOR, FOX BUSINESS NETWORK: He should have defended us. He should have defended his own intelligence community. Or just don't take the meeting. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: And joining us now here in New York is Trish Regan who hosts "The Intel Report" on Fox Business, 2 p.m. Eastern. Trish, you have often been supportive of President Trump on economic policies, on regulatory policies. You have taken on some of his press coverage. So when you pretty strongly criticize him over the Helsinki press conference, obviously you felt strongly. REGAN: I did. And, you know, Howie, I think with me, it's pretty much what you see you is what you get. And I wear my heart on my sleeve. And if I like something, you will know it. And if I don't like something, you will know that, too. I did not like what I saw in Helsinki. I was surprised and I reacted in real-time. It's what we need to do. I think too often journalists especially these days, they come at things with such a bias against this president. KURTZ: Like a (INAUDIBLE) attitude? REGAN: Yeah. KURTZ: Yeah. REGAN: And so it's not as though they are reacting in real-time. They have their own agenda. Look, I approach my job every day and my agenda is what's best for the country. So if we have economic policy, it will help create jobs, raise wages, that's good. If we have policies that will make us stronger on the international front, that's good. But I just call it like I see it. And so when he does well, you know that I do believe that he's doing well. But when he has a misstep like that and that's being kind calling it a misstep, I have to say something. KURTZ: And as you know, some Trump supporters don't take kindly to any criticism, any circumstance. So, what kind of reaction have you gotten online? (LAUGHTER) REGAN: Mixed. I think from a lot of his followers, his base, they are upset because perhaps, you know, they wanted to come to me and hear something reassuring. And, you know, look, I have to call it like I see it. I don't know how to do it any other way. KURTZ: Right. REGAN: So they were not happy. KURTZ: And so do get hammered by people -- REGAN: Oh, yeah. I think they are -- KURTZ: It comes with the territory. REGAN: Hundreds of thousands of -- oh, my goodness, Trish, you know, you deserted us. I am like, no, no, no, I am not -- KURTZ: You're not on his side. REGAN: I'm not on the side. KURTZ: Right. REGAN: I am not on his side. I am not on anyone's side. I am on the side of our country. What is right for our country. Therefore, I am on our viewers' side. Maybe they -- it becomes sort of a religion, right? I think with people, they want this president to succeed. I want this president to succeed. I want our country to succeed. KURTZ: Right. You know, what is interesting that CNN and MSNBC several times played montages of Fox people criticizing the president in Helsinki. You were in some of those montages. What is your reaction when people say, oh, even journalists at Fox are criticizing Donald Trump of this? (LAUGHTER) REGAN: Some people said, that was really courageous of you. I said, how is it courageous? I am just doing my job. KURTZ: Right. REGAN: I go to work every day and I try to look at things independently enough that, you know, I can call it like I see it. And, you know, it's not as though it takes courage. It just means I am doing what I signed up to do. And that's to be fair and it's to honest. And now, you know when it comes out with a good piece of economic policy. (CROSSTALK) HOWARD KURTZ, MEDIABUZZ, ANCHOR: Let me get you in on the Michael Cohen secretly taping Trump. A media explosion on this as I mentioned earlier, discussion of payoffs involving a former Playboy who alleges an affair. Is that a big story? Is it a story that's now pushing aside other stories? REGAN: It's certainly pushing aside interestingly enough the whole Helsinki story, right, because when you think of the news cycle these days. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: Right. We all go crazy over something and then next you know something else pops and that becomes wall to wall. It doesn't really matter whether as it's as important as our relations with Russian Vladimir Putin. It just became the shiny object, right? REGAN: Exactly. So when some people had said do you think this story has legs and is this going to be his undoing? And I said that you know the reality is there will be something else tomorrow. KURTZ: Right. REGAN: And sure enough, the Michael Cohen tapes came out. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: And that is a prediction that will be always be true, because this is a President who makes a lot of news and the media loves to cover him, Trish Regan, so great to see you in person, thanks for coming by this Sunday morning. REGAN: Good to see you. KURTZ: Ahead on MediaBuzz, why does Mark Zuckerberg think it's OK for Facebook to host holocaust deniers? But first, Sean Spicer on the President's rough week, media bias, and what he learned from the trench warfare in the White House. KURTZ: One of the most famous figures and only casualties of President Trump's administration is this one time (Inaudible) Sean Spicer. He has now written a book about his battles with the media. It's called The Briefing, Politics, the Press, and the President. I sat with the former White House Press Secretary back in Washington. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Sean Spicer, welcome. President Trump has drawn criticism across the media landscape for the Putin press conference. Was the press right that it was an egregious mistake? SEAN SPICER, (R) FORMER PRESS SECRETARY, WHITE HOUSE: Thanks for having me. KURTZ: President Trump is drawing criticism as you know, across the media landscape for the Putin press conference. You're saying you're glad he clarified his (Inaudible) comments. But is the press right that this was an egregious mistake? SPICER: Well, I mean obviously, even the President acknowledged that he fumbled the words. So I think the issue is that the degree and the intensity in which they go after him. I read a lot about that in my fourth coming book that he acknowledged. He clarified his words. I am glad he did. I think most Republicans. Most Americans are glad that he made it very clear. I have heard him say before this isn't the first time he's made it clear what Russia's role has been in the election. So I'm glad he clarified it. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: I want to talk about the intent here. I just want to make clear. This is not just the liberal media. He has many Republican lawmakers. Conservatives, people of on Fox News, you had Newt Gingrich saying on a serious mistake of his presidency. Are they all wrong? (CROSSTALK) SPICER: I get it. And I'm glad he clarified this comment. I'm glad that he went on to CBS and made it very clear once again what his position was. But it wasn't like there wasn't any history on this. He has said before that Russia was involved in meddling. And so I get it. But I think that part of the reason a lot of them piled on is because there was this fury from the media that a lot of folks felt like they had to react to. I think that they probably could have come out a little sooner, made it clear that if that wasn't his intention, clearly the media reacted immediately. And it would probably been better and made this go away a lot easier, if it had been a quicker response. KURTZ: Yeah, that 24 hours was filled with a lot of criticism, not much defense from the White House. You've gotten it with Megyn Kelly, and she said why can't you just admit that Donald Trump sometimes struggles with the truth. And you would not, now do you dispute the fact that the President sometimes makes statements that. (CROSSTALK) SPICER: Here is what I think. You, me, and probably everybody have made mistakes, have said things that you know we regret or that turned out to be false, or we just misspeak. It happens. I think that with this President, the desire to constantly you know go after him. I don't remember any of those questions coming up. And we talked about with Megyn. After Benghazi, there was no questioning of going after -- does President Obama owe us apology. Is he liar? Is Hillary Clinton a liar? They didn't treat those same statements with the same brass (Inaudible) treating some of the statements. KURTZ: Huge story in. (CROSSTALK) SPICER: But again, it was the story but it hardly in terms of people leaving that administration, none of whom are held to account the same way that we are. KURTZ: On Friday, Rudy Giuliani confirmed the New York Times report that Michael Cohen, the President's former personal lawyer, as you know, secretly recorded Donald Trump. And one of those conversations had to do with the payment, which was never made to the former Playboy model Karen McDougal, who alleges she had an affair with Donald Trump 12 years ago. Is the media explosion over this (Inaudible) explosion justified? SPICER: I don't know. And the reason that I say that is because we don't know all the facts. It's an unconfirmed report. Cohen isn't talking. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: Confirmed by Giuliani. We don't have the tape but it was confirmed by Rudy Giuliani. SPICER: Look. Sorry, I haven't been paying attention to everybody else's news. Think it's problematic. And frankly, I think it's also a betrayal of trust, the idea that you are secretly going around recording people on matters of business like that when you work for them. I think that's the bigger story. KURTZ: When you were named Press Secretary, you write this in the Briefing. I knew in my heart that I was better suited to take on the role of communications director, but you say that you offer a (Inaudible) was too tempting to turn down. Why were you not better suited for Press Secretary looking back? SPICER: Well, I think looking I think I don't think I could have anticipated the intensity and the scrutiny of that job involved. I looked at that job in the traditional sense of you know Ari Fleischer, Dana Perino, Mike McCurry, Josh Earnst, Robert (Inaudible) a lot of folks that have had it. I have done hundreds of media hits. I've sat and briefed people for years. And yet, there was a new found intensity and scrutiny on this candidate, on this President, on this White House that I couldn't have anticipated. KURTZ: Now this (Inaudible) as you have write, the first day. President Trump saw the coverage about his inaugural crowd and he didn't like and he sent you out. SPICER: Some members of the media were engaged in deliberately false reporting. These attempts to lessen the enthusiasm of the inauguration are shameful and wrong. (CROSSTALK) SPICKER: It actually began the night before, which was -- we you know -- the President got sworn in. You know we -- he starts off with a flurry of executive orders and executive actions. He wants to show the American people he's hard at work fulfilling the promises he has. And the media focus instead of focusing, on those actions, on those policies turns out to be whether or not he falsely had taken out a bust of Martin Luther King. Then he wakes up the next day, he sees another narrative, which is how many people were standing on the mall. I think there is an overall frustration from not just him but from a lot of us that says really? That's what the focus is. We have this historic election of someone who's never been involved in politics and historic campaign, and now we are -- that's what seems to be so much of the focus of the media. KURTZ: But Sean, as (Inaudible) in the book. You cam out you scolded the press. And you say I should have lowered the temperature and not so broadly questioned the media's motives. I have made a bad first impression, and you go one to say. Looking back, it was the beginning of the end. SPICER: Yeah. KURTZ: Why so? SPICER: Because I think that the (Inaudible) off the bat. There is a do over I'd take it every day of the week. The President wasn't happy with me. I wasn't happy with me. Clearly, the press core wasn't. I think my mom and my wife probably out of a sense of unconditional love were probably the only two people who were supportive of me that afternoon. (CROSSTALK) SPICER: And I don't even think either one of them thought I did a good job. I think they just love me. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Down to two relatives. More with Sean Spicer in just a moment, including whether he might become a talk show host after his combat tour in the White House. KURTZ: More now of my conversation in Washington with Sean Spicer. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: You say that CNN's Jim Acosta and two CNN contributors were getting ready to report (Inaudible) and (Inaudible) were among those who were trying to become cable stars, in your words, by generating fake controversy and outrage. Why fake? SPICER: Well, because it's not about a question. It's about creating an antic in the briefing room, right? And it's not trying to delve further in an issue. It's not about -- it's jumping up and down and screaming. And my point was this. And those two cases, two folks have been in the Briefing Room for quite often. Suddenly, they jump up and down, yell, make a spectacle of themselves, get a clip that goes viral on YouTube and then Twitter, and suddenly they find themselves with cable contracts. Not because of the quality of the reporting, not because they uncovered some unbelievable you know -- or led an investigation. And that's what we have done. We started to reward antics, not good journalism. KURTZ: You have some nice things to say about Maggie Hayward of the New York Times. You called her a smart and tenacious who had good sources, but you of course, went at it during your tenure and you say a therapist could have made a fortune from the amount of time you spent tangling with her, a therapist? SPICER: Well, just in the sense that Maggie and I, during those -- during my tenure would often you know -- she would write a story that I didn't think was fair. She didn't think some of our responses were. And so we ended up spend 20 minutes talking about how we were talking to each other, focused on the issues. But I think like a lot of reporters there, I have a lot of respect for folks that are tenacious and tough, that are really focused on making sure that they are well sourced. And I don't fault journalism for tough stories. I think that that's what it's all about. But the question is, are they trying to get it right or are they be first to get a click. And with all due respect to Maggie, I think she's (Inaudible) sometimes that I don't agree with every story she writes. But I think her and Jennifer Jacobs, and I name whole bunch in the book, where I go through because there is not just -- I hope that people who read The Briefing walk away from -- and there is some constructive stuff I think on both sides. I say this is how we could have done a better job. But then there is also times were (Inaudible) about how journalists could do a better job. We need good journalists. We need a healthy and robust press core to make this democracy as great as it can be. KURTZ: You're working with a major TV syndicator on a potential show Sean Spicer's Common Ground. Now you were you was a dogged Trump defender, (Inaudible) constantly fighting with the media? Aren't you more of a partisan warrior than a common ground guy? SPICER: I am a huge partisan warrior. But that's the point, is that I know from 25 years in Washington. A lot of the stories that I tell in The Briefing are based on, which is that we can have civil and respectful discussions but totally disagree on policy. That's the idea. You can be fierce partisan and good person. KURTZ: you were ridiculed of course, on SNL by Melissa McCarthy. You were accosted by a strange person in Apply store. (CROSSTALK) KURTZ: Is all of this hard on your family? SPICER: I think so only because I think I have an unbelievable supporter partner of a wife, who has sacrificed tremendously for me to be able to pursue dream. And I think it hurts when you see somebody you love be attacked. In the case of Melissa McCarthy, some of it was funny. And so when you would laugh accordingly, some of it was sort of as we would say like well deserved. And so in cases where it's funny -- when you screw up and you step on it, she is a talented actor and she did some funny stuff. And I can laugh at it. And again, I don't blame her. It's not like she was the writer. She played a part. And she did it well for the most of part. But I don't think that people fully appreciate the impact that it's had on the families and loved ones when you take something. I had no idea. You know I talk about it from day one. You bring up the Apple store. All of these instances and examples that I -- when I took the job, I didn't realize that you would have this kind of notoriety, (Inaudible) television hits before, and I'll save a few people on Capitol Hill. No one's ever recognized me. KURTZ: Not the same as being Press Secretary. SPICER: Well, under this President, I think you know a lot of press secretaries would say that they you know -- political junkies would know who they are, but could probably live a fairly normal life. I think that changed under Donald Trump. KURTZ: Sean Spicer thanks very much for dropping by. SPICER: Thanks, Howard. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: After the break, two feisty conservatives get an apology from Facebook. And Mark Zuckerberg tries to clarify his comments about holocaust denials. KURTZ: Mark Zuckerberg really stepped in it the other day when Kara Swisher of Recode asked him how Facebook handles people who are holocaust deniers. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I find that deeply offensive. But at the end of the day, I don't believe that our platform should take that down, because I think that there are things that different people get wrong either -- I don't think that they are intentionally getting it wrong. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: What? They just happen to believe six million Jews weren't killed by the Nazis. The uproar prompted Zuckerberg, who is Jewish, to issue a clarification that he didn't mean to defend the intent of those who are after all, denying one of history's greatest tragedies. Now, I get that Zuckerberg was trying to make a speech argument that Facebook shouldn't censor on popular unless he says they can incite violence. But he needs to abandon the fiction that Facebook is a public utility where anyone can post lies and misinformation, and it's not his problem, and recognizes that he runs a media company that has to take responsibility for its content. And it hasn't been a good week for Facebook. Diamond and Silk, the conservative video bloggers have been complaining of unfair treatment by Facebook. And a VP at the social network, Monika Bickert now says they are right testifying. We apologized to them at the time, and I would like to extend my own personal apology to them again today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And (Inaudible) we're not (Inaudible). Because when we were going through our issues, we were back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Nobody could give us an answer. (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: Facebook didn't censor Diamond and Silk as they have claimed. But Mark Zuckerberg's company did send a letter describing their page as dangerous. Dangerous, the only danger here is that Facebook reputation for political bias. Holocaust deniers are the dangerous, not Diamond and Silk. Still to come, a high profile departure at Fox News and Roseanne goes off the rails. KURTZ: The network made it official with a one-sentence statement. Fox News has parted ways with Kimberly Guilfoyle. Now, Guilfoyle, a former prosecutor been conservative voice here at Fox for a dozen years, most have been at The Five. She's also been considered for a job in the Trump White House. And as I reported on this program weeks ago, the situation became more complicated when she started dating Donald Trump, Jr., which increasingly put Fox in a difficult position. I can report that Guilfoyle views this move as a rare opportunity. She is about to join America First, the pro-Trump pack as Vice Chairwoman to be TV spokeswoman and fund raiser for the President. She also plans to hit the campaign trail with Donald, Jr. for the midterms. And the two have told friends that marriage could be in their future. But behind the scenes, there have been tensions as lawyers on both sides have tried to negotiate the issues surrounding her departure. I wish Kimberly all the best. USA Today has dropped conservative columnist Cheri Jacobus for an insanely harsh tweet, attacking former Trump advisor Michael Caputo, asking if his daughters are ugly like him and suggesting they party with a convicted sex offender. What? Jacobus says she was responding to Caputo's attacks, but slamming his kids, please. And Roseanne now says ABC fired her not for her racist tweet about Valerie Jarred, but because I voted for Donald Trump and that is not allowed in Hollywood, except there was well, this she got this show and there was this rant on YouTube. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I thought the (Inaudible) was white! God damn it! (END VIDEO CLIP) KURTZ: It's kind of sad. I hope she gets help soon. Well, that's it for this edition of Media Buzz from New York. I'm Howard Kurtz. Check out my new podcast, MediaBuzz Meter. 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Load-Date: July 23, 2018 End of Document The Media's Disgraceful Anti-Trump Coverage; San Francisco Registers Illegals to Vote; Pirro Exposes "The View's" Anti-Trump Bias; Judge Jeanine Pirro Shared Her Unforgettable Experience with the View's Co-Host, Whoopi Goldberg Who Yelled at Her During Their Heated Conversation over Immigration; President Trump Expressed His Excitement upon Learning that Former Vice President Joe Biden May Run for President in 2020; The Mainstream Media Forgot that Their Job is to Seek for the Truth, Not to Lean on Any Side of Politics and Berate the President Occupying the Oval Office Right Now Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST July 19, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7759 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro, Jesse Watters, Jessica Tarlov Guests: John Solomon, Michelle Malkin, Dan Bongino, Sean Spicer Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. And, by the way, I want to tell your audience, in Helsinki, you're a troublemaker. I watched you steal desserts. That's all I'm going to say. I'm not going to give you up. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST, "TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT": On behalf of others with my producer. HANNITY: Yes, and they were the desserts that president and Vladimir were supposed to have. Just saying. CARLSON: That's true and you ate one. So, you're implicated. (LAUGHTER) HANNITY: All right, Tucker. CARLSON: Thanks. HANNITY: Welcome to "Hannity". All right. Trump supporters beware. The midterm elections are now fast approaching. Many on the left are now ramping up the insane rhetoric pushing identity politics, demonizing ideological differences because to them, if you support President Trump -- well, it's not just a political choice, it's a mortal sin for which there is no forgiveness, ever. Now, in a moment, we're going to show you how our own Judge Jeanine Pirro was literally shouted down face-to- face by some of the Trump-hating ladies of "The View." And she will give us the ugly behind-the-scenes story. Plus, we have the latest, absurd, shark-jumping, psychotic rhetoric from the left, their never-ending obsession with Russia. And meanwhile, the president, the administration now facing many complex issues all around the world. And today, the FBI director, Wray, he warned that China, not Russia, was the single most significant threat to the United States. Now, tonight, we'll do something the mainstream media won't do, we'll show you how the president is actually countering China with a policy of peace through his strength. Now, we also have tonight a shocking story out of the state of California. The sanctuary city of San Francisco is now allowing illegal immigrants to vote in elections. I didn't make that up. We have an important new report on deep state actor Peter Strzok from John Solomon. All of that, plus the president said he will be Putin's worst enemy if their relationship does not work out and that Obama was a patsy for Putin. Buckle up, it's time for tonight's breaking news multi-pronged opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. The Democrat's election playbook is now in full swing. According to the left, if you support Donald Trump or have conservative opinions, you're no longer a decent human being. Instead -- well, according to them, you're a xenophobic, Islamophobic, homophobic, racist, sexist, misogynist, you want dirty air, you want dirty water. You'd definitely want to take grandma and throw her right over the cliff. And, by the way, you want children to die. Oh, and by the way, we are the smelly Walmart shoppers, the irredeemable deplorables. We're the people that cling to our god, our guns, our bibles and religion. Now, this is especially true during the age of Trump. Now, we've seen the president's allies kicked out of restaurants, shouted down on the street, harassed in front of their own homes' front yards and the most vicious attacks even against women and even against the president's children and grandchildren. So, it's no surprise that our own Judge Jeanine Pirro wasn't warmly welcomed during her guest appearance on "The View" on ABC. By the way, Disney, are you proud of this? Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WHOOPI GOLDBERG, THE VIEW: Here's my question for you, because you talk about -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am not, judge -- GOLDBERG: Did you just point at me? JEANINE PIRRO, FOX NEWS HOST: Yes! GOLDBERG: Listen, I don't have Trump derangement. There's been a lot of people in office that I didn't agree with, but I have never ever seen anything like this. I've never seen anyone whip up such hate. I've never seen anybody be so dismissive. How long has the deep state been there? Who is running it? PIRRO: I want to answer your question, because you gave -- GOLDBERG: I asked you a question -- PIRRO: In your opening statement, which how horrible it is that Donald Trump is talking about all of these people. GOLDBERG: No, that's what you said! You said -- you said -- (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: Whoopi, you know what's horrible? When people who shouldn't be here end up murdering the children of American citizens. What's horrible is (CROSSTALK) GOLDBERG: You know what's horrible? When the president of the United States whipped up people to beat the hell out of people. Say goodbye. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. So, I spoke with Judge Pirro after that appearance. It got much worse back stage. She'll join us tonight in just a moment with a lot more. And, of course, for the entire week, the left's anti-Trump echo chamber has been on super-super-duper high alert. Now, the president's meeting with Vladimir Putin has been compared, let's see, to the Holocaust, Pearl Harbor, 9/11 and the rhetoric has been absolutely psychotic! Front page of "The New Yorker", look at this, featuring a cartoon showing a dead President Trump face down at the bottom of an escalator. Great, his kids have to see that. His grandkids have to see that. And "Time" magazine featuring this ominous looking Putin-Trump hybrid. And, by the way on TV, over -- just the past 24 hours alone -- not the earlier 48 hours -- the anti-Trump hysteria is even worse. They're all in a state of panic. The economy is doing well. We're safer than we've been. And they know they're going to lose the next election. They're scared. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: Did the president share classified information with Putin? Did the president take other steps beyond those that he took so publicly to undermine the security of the United States? SEN. CHRIS MURPHY (D), CONNECTICUT: This president is very happy making himself a client of Vladimir Putin. Who knows what they talked about behind closed doors? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's aiding and abetting the enemy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can't believe this is something I'm saying about the president of the United States, but it made me wonder if people are suspicious that he revealed sensitive, classified intelligence including human source information to the president of the Russian Federation. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What Putin does is exactly what Trump does or what Trump does is what Putin does, which is they lie for a living. STEPHEN COLBERT, COMEDIAN/LATE NIGHT TV HOST: I'm about as shaky as I have felt since the night he won! Back then, my biggest fear was we had elected an asset of the Russian government who will sell out America at every opportunity just to save his own hide. My biggest fear now is that I was right. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Despite what you just saw, president has a long track record countering the malicious actions of Vladimir Putin, something that President Obama did not have. Now, the president armed Ukraine. He increased sanctions on Russia. He increased funding at NATO. He slapped severe financial restrictions on some of Vladimir Putin's closest allies. He authorized a counterattack as Putin was backing soldiers inside of Syria, killing hundreds of Russians. And, remember, Russia's -- remember the hostile takeover in Crimea and Ukraine? Well, Putin's power grab in Syria, and all of this election meddling you're hearing so much about, it all happened on Obama's watch. He was the president. Just like giving Putin 20 percent of America's uranium, that was on Obama's watch. So, the foundational material for nuclear weapons was given to Putin and Russia, the bad actor, the hostile regime, while Obama was president. Nobody in the media mentioned this all week. Now, you think you'll hear about this if you turn on conspiracy TV MSNBC? Fake news CNN? I tend to doubt it. So, today, President Trump once again, he reiterated his commitment to countering Putin. He issued a very stern warning. This is what we call peace through strength. Judge for yourself. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Look at the sanctions I put on. Look at the diplomats I threw out. Look at all the things that I've done and nobody else did what I've done. Obama didn't do it. Obama was a patsy for Russia. He was a total patsy. Look at the statement he made when he thought the mics were turned off, OK? The stupid statement he made! Nobody makes a big deal about that. Getting along with President Putin, getting along with Russia is a positive, not a negative. Now, with that being said, if that doesn't work out, I'll be the worst enemy he's ever had! (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: If it doesn't work out, he'll be the worst enemy he's ever had. But for the sake of our world, our kids, let's hope it works out. Now, while the media is obsessing about Russia, Russia, Russia, I'd like to remind our so-called journalists that it's a very big world out there. There's a lot of complex issues in this world. And maybe just maybe, Russia isn't even our biggest international foe. Now, let's listen to what the FBI Director Christopher Wray said yesterday. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRISTOPHER WRAY, FBI DIRECTOR: China from a counterintelligence perspective in many ways represent the broadest, most challenging, most significant threat we face as a country and I say that because for them, it is a whole of state effort. It is economic espionage as well as traditional espionage. It is nontraditional collectors as well as traditional intelligence operatives. It's human sources as well as cyber means. It's -- we have economic espionage investigations in every state -- all 50 states that trace back to China. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: That's right! China, not Russia. All right, someone may want to tell the left in this country that there's more to life than Vladimir Putin. So, why isn't the media obsessing about the China threat? Where's the hysteria over Chinese hacking and aggressive military actions in the Pacific? Currency manipulation? Theft of intellectual property. While the left is spinning out of control on Russia, Russia, right here on "Hannity", we report the full story. President Trump is keenly aware that the geopolitical threat that's posed by all of these bad actors, including China, and has long called them out in a very public way. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: Just remember, we're the bank. We're the bank that everybody wants to steal from and plunder. And can't be that way anymore. We lost $500 billion last year with China. We are growing to end the theft of American intellectual property, crack down on China's trade abuses and confront countries that cheat. I also had a very candid conversation with President Xi about the need to reduce our staggering trade deficit with China and for our trading relationship to be conducted on a truly fair and equitable basis. We can no longer tolerate unfair trading practices that steal American jobs, wealth and intellectual property. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And as usual, the president's words are backed up with tough action, crippling tariffs, upgrading missile defense systems to China's neighbors, reaffirming America's commitments to Taiwan and turning the screws on North Korea. We'll have more on the president and the president's geopolitical peace through strength strategy throughout the show tonight. But, first, we got to turn to a very shocking story. It should make your blood boil. You know the sanctuary city of San Francisco? They're now spitting in the face of every single law-abiding American tonight. City officials are now permitting illegal immigrants, other noncitizens to register to vote in November's election. That's right. You can literally -- you can't make this up. They're allowing this. Barring any future legal action, illegal immigrants will now be among those in San Francisco who get to vote in certain local elections. Now this is just one more obvious sign that the left in this country, they don't care about the rule of law, our Constitution, about the rights of the many. They don't believe in borders. They have no agenda to improve America. Instead, they want to regain power at all costs. Well, for 2018, it's simple. They want their crumbs back. They want to rescind the tax cuts. They want to impeach Trump, but they're trying to tell everybody not to say it publicly. They want to preserve Obama's legacy, keep your doctor plan and pay less -- they want Obamacare to stay. They want to block the president's Supreme Court choices and the confirmation of Justice Kavanaugh and, that's right, you can see that they want open borders also. They're not proposing one thing that will solve any problem for any American citizen. It's without a doubt the most important midterm election in our lifetime. The future of this country is at stake! They want to undo the 2016 election. And finally tonight, we do have a breaking news story from John Solomon. He's highlighting an underreported text from the corrupt FBI investigator Peter Strzok to his girlfriend Lisa Page. Now, the text reads, an investigation leading to impeachment? You and I both know the odds are nothing. And Strzok goes on and he says, quote, there's no big there there. Now, the timing of this text is incredibly telling. It's just two days after Robert Mueller was appointed to conduct this witch-hunt on Trump/Russia collusion. And according to Solomon, while Peter Strzok refused to answer what this text was referring to, Lisa Page behind closed doors did in fact confirm that the text referred to quality of the Russia case that he was leading. So, there's no big there there and there never was and here we are 428 days later, millions of dollars later. This never-ending divide and fishing expedition rolls on. Show us the evidence, Mr. Mueller, you know and your pit bull Andrew Weissmann. Why'd you ever appoint a guy that had that much corruption in his background? Really? Withholding exculpatory evidence, beaten 9-0 in the Supreme Court, sending innocent people to jail for a year, overturned by the Fifth Circuit, tens of thousands of Americans lost their jobs. He's your number one guy? Really? And then you can't find a single Republican to put on your team? Not one? Just a married band of Hillary supporters and Democratic donors. All right. Here with more from "The Hill" is John Solomon. John, big story. JOHN SOLOMON, THE HILL: Yes, Sean, I think what's important here is that, you know, the evidence in this case has been produced episodically to Congress. You get a paper blazered and you get a single witness and you get a few documents they forgot to give you and then an another witness. And what's happened over the last couple of weeks is Congress has gone back and reassembled the evidence and looked back. One of the questions they're trying to answer is there actions that were taken that clearly could be attributed to political bias or political influence. And this discussion that you just highlighted has become very important. They have now confirmed, they put all the text messages and e- mails in that period of mid-May and they see a discussion going on between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page in which they're debating. Should we send the FBI and go punch our ticket up the elevator to the assistant director or should we go over and try to get President Trump impeached at the special counsel level? And they get into this discussion and at some point, they actually say, maybe we should stop this discussion. But they keep going any ways. And that famous statement is uttered. There's no there. We don't need to go over there because there's no there there. I mean, there's not going to be a big crime found there. I think that that's essential because it's one of five sort of things that they did that defy the normal investigative work they do. HANNITY: Yes, well, and on top of that they -- they were writing an exoneration of Hillary before they investigated, but let's go back to this. So, Lisa Page, and this didn't get so much news because the media only focuses on one story at a time, and it's a story they have focused on for two years with no evidence and my question is, so Lisa Strzok is contradicting what -- I'm sorry, Lisa Page is contradicting what Peter Strzok said under oath. And that would mean he lied under oath if she's telling us -- SOLOMON: Well -- HANNITY: -- that what it seems it reads was what they meant which he denies. SOLOMON: So, the most important thing is that Peter Strzok testified. He didn't believe any of his political bias has affected his actions. She's not contradicting that. She's just giving a factual statement. Yes, we were talking about Russia there. Yes, we were talking about special counsel. So, you now know for sure, that's what they were talking about. I think the most important thing going on let's take a look at the five things we now know they did that defy their training. They accepted circular intelligence. They knew everything was coming 48 Hillary-funded dossier. But it made it look like it was coming from multiple sources. Two weeks before the election, they had to hurry the F-up pressure, remember? Trying to force through a warrant on the Trump campaign before the election is over. The day after the election, they get -- make an all- call, we need all derogatory reports on the Trump campaign. Let's start collecting them -- the day after he's elected. And then you get to this point in May where they're about to turn the case and over allowing the Justice Department to appoint the special prosecutor, encouraging it. And they kind of know it's flimsy evidence. All of the things suggest that they aren't going by their normal training, their normal behavior as counterintelligence agents. And that's why the question, of political bias is going to get answered soon. HANNITY: And to sum up it, they used their power. They tried to steal in a way the presidential election by favoring one candidate over another candidate and letting one candidate that should have been indicted go and then turning their -- everything they had -- their screws on the other. All right. John Solomon, great reporting on "The Hill". SOLOMON: Thanks. HANNITY: Joining us now, the host of "Michelle Malcolm Investigates", it's on CRTV, Michelle Malkin. Former Secret Service agent, NRATV contributor, Dan Bongino. Let's go over, shall we, Michelle -- I love truth and history -- and I know you do -- Uranium One, that happened under President Obama's watch, right? And that's 20 percent of American uranium, the foundational material for nuclear weapons. The interference of the meddling of the 2016 election, that happened under Obama. Crimea happened under Obama. Ukraine happened under Obama. And the Syria red line was crossed also under Obama. How come the media didn't care about any of this? MICHELLE MALKIN, CRTV "MICHELLE MALKIN INVESTIGATES" HOST: Because they suffer from selective sovereignty syndrome. They only care about foreign meddling and foreign conflicts when there's a president with an "R" by his name and especially when that "R" comes in the word Trump, T-R-U-M-P. And you can go all the way back to the Clinton years and China-gate and the dangerous national security implications of all of the campaign contributions that were coming in from shady characters all the way back then. And who was it that was sounding the alarm about all of those scandals? Well, it wasn't the New York slimes and it wasn't the Washington compost, they were too busy printing all of the condemnations from people blowing the whistle on it, and referring to them as xenophobic and racist, which is what you talked about in your monologue. This is the classic left wing playbook of attacking the messenger. And it's a huge cloud, smoke and mirrors, to distract from the fact these people are absolutely treasonous hypocrites. They can scream treason as loud as they want to, but the facts and the history speak for itself. HANNITY: The other thing is the president was stronger on Russia the whole time, and I was glad the president went out today and said, no, it was actually Obama that was the patsy for Putin and I don't think -- I don't think there's anybody in the world that doubts that if Putin wants to get aggressive with Donald Trump as president, it's not going to be the same as when Obama was president. He's not going to -- he's not going to take Putin's crap. The idea that people think otherwise, it just shows that there's nothing Trump can do. He could cure cancer, Dan Bongino, at this point, and they still hate him. DAN BONGINO, NRATV CONTRIBUTOR: Sean, he's already been tougher on the Russians. You know, Sean, I'm really -- I know you're tired of this, too, I'm kind of like tired of being tired of it, but the -- Michelle just pointed out so many abominations under the Clinton/Obama regime. I mean, Sean, what about the $500,000 payment from the Russian bank to the Clinton Foundation? The Russian bank that by the way was associated with the Kremlin. You know, what about the Bill Clinton trip to Kazakhstan? I mean, they forget all of this stuff that actually happened and then what Trump actually did, they ignore. Talking about the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, fighting for American natural gas interests over the Russian interests. You think Putin likes that? You know, again, under the Trump administration, wiping out the Russian mercs in Syria. Sean, this stuff actually happened. The media pays no attention because they're pathetic. They're not even the media. They're strictly a propaganda arm for the Democrat Party. Let's stop pretending they're reasonable people. HANNITY: Michelle, weigh in. MALKIN: Yes, I just want to add something because it's so galling and unconscionable for these media outlets now to fashion themselves the champions of our intelligence agencies. They want you to forget that during the Bush administration, it was two "New York Times" journalist who tipped off Muslim charities, the global relief foundation and the Holy Land Foundation, designated terrorist finance organizations to raids that were about to happen. The U.S. attorney at the time, Patrick Fitzgerald, condemned those leaks and those publications of dangerous information because it directly impacted and affected those agents that were executing the raids. These are the same people, the New York slimes, that blabbed about releasing and revealing the identities of CIA interrogators, including the one who interrogated KSM, again, endangering these intelligence agents and ignoring the entreaties of top officials who were telling them not to do this in the name of national security they didn't care then and they don't care now. HANNITY: Last word, Dan. BONGINO: Yes, and last night, Sean, "The New York Times" again doubled down on what Michelle said. What did they do? They leaked that there's a source close to Putin that's been feeding them information. Nice job, "New York Times", outing probably one of our best intelligence sources to try to put egg on the face of Donald Trump, you goof balls. Nice job. Well done you, idiots. MALKIN: Treason times. HANNITY: Yes. MALKIN: Treason times. HANNITY: Scary times, too. All right. Thank you, both. When we come back -- all right, it's so bad that Trump derangement syndrome is so out of control, Judge Jeanine got thrown off the seat of "The View" earlier today. And what happened after is even worse. She'll tell us all about it, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Earlier today, things got very heated on "The View" when Whoopi Goldberg rudely ended a segment with our own Judge Jeanine Pirro, throw her off the set. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GOLDBERG: There's been a lot of people in office I didn't agree with, but I have never ever seen anything like this. I've never seen anyone whip up such hate. I've never seen anyone be this dismissive. How long has the deep state been there and who's running it? PIRRO: Well, I want to answer your question because your -- (CROSSTALK) GOLDBERG: I asked you a question. I -- PIRRO: Your opening statement which is how horrible it is that Donald Trump is talking about all of these people. (CROSSTALK) GOLDBERG: No, that's what you said! You said -- you said -- (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: Whoopi, you know what's horrible? When people who shouldn't be here end up murdering the children of American citizens. What's horrible is (CROSSTALK) GOLDBERG: You know what's horrible? When the president of the United States whipped up people to beat the hell out of people. Say goodbye. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Here now is the author of the brand-new book, "Liars, Leakers and Liberals: The Case Against the Anti-Trump Conspiracy". You see her every Saturday night, 9:00 Eastern, right here on Fox. Hello, Judge Jeanine Pirro, anything going on in your life today? (LAUGHTER) PIRRO: You know, I'll tell you, Sean, I got an invitation to go on "The View" to talk about my new book, "Liars, Leakers and Liberals". And I accepted the invitation. I was happy to respond to their request. There was one segment which I thought was rather civil. I mean, they clearly are of a particular bent. But it was in the second segment that you just played where I literally was thrown off the set. Whoopi Goldberg basically said I'm done, she pulled the plug off and walked away. But it didn't end there, Sean. And I think the sad part about all this is that, you know, I said in the first segment, we need to start talking to each other. We need to start having a conversation, people who ostensibly hate each other. And the irony is I said that two minutes before she started. And I just felt that today was a microcosm of what is happening in America as the left suffers from this Trump derangement syndrome, shuts the right down, doesn't allow you to talk. She asked me a question and then yells at me, yells about Donald Trump, and yells about -- and when I tried to answer, she continued to yell. But it didn't end there, Sean. What happens was, I realized the segment was over. I got up and I just started -- I left the stage, going downstairs. And I saw her and I had to walk by her and I said, Whoopi, I fought for victims my whole life, something like that, and she started cursing at me. HANNITY: Tell everybody what she said without saying it? PIRRO: She said -- HANNITY: Blank you. PIRRO: F-you, F-you, and I said, Whoopi, did I just say F-you? I mean, she was right here and then she said, get the F out of this building! And she yelled at me again, get the F out of this building! And I felt like I was less than dirt. I couldn't believe that I went there to have a conversation. I got thrown off the set, thrown out of the building, and as I walked away, she is yelling at me, get the F out of this building! Sean, it's sad. What these people have turned into is sad. What is happening? HANNITY: You know, what's happening is they can't handle that they lost, they can't seem to handle that the world has changed. The worst part I think for those on the left is that the president's success is causing them to go even more insane because, remember, they're supposed to be this big blue title wave, but the economy setting record. The numbers, I can't wait till the end of next week, I think we get the second quarter GDP estimates is going to be pretty good, maybe even as high as 4 percent. PIRRO: Right. HANNITY: Which, you know, Barack Obama never had in eight years of his presidency. Thirteen million more Americans on food stamps, eight million more in poverty. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: And the president is getting result. But there is no doubt it's a divided country. I've known Whoopi for years. I've watched the show, frankly, it's become unwatchable, the ratings are way, way down from what it used to be. The fact that they can't have a civil conversation with you is part of the reason. PIRRO: Well, you know, Sean, I have co-hosted that show in the past, and during the break before the first and second segment, I looked over to Whoopi and said, how are you? I haven't seen you in a while, and I said, you know, are you still doing something that we used to do together? And she said no. And then I turned to Ana Navarro from CNN, no one told me that someone from CNN was going to be host, which I thought was kind of fascinating. HANNITY: I hope you said fake news. PIRRO: And, you know, I tried a conversation. I have a -- and all of a sudden, when we came back into the second block, it was all hell broke loose, and I have to tell you, Sean, we deserve better. We deserve better than to be berated because we support the president. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Hey, judge -- judge, look at what happened to Pam Bondi, Secretary Nielsen, Sarah Sanders. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: Look at the covers that I just showed our audience in my opening monologue tonight. Severed heads, dead presidents at the end of escalators now. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: It is the left is unhinged, they don't have a plan to offer the American people, all they have is innuendo, name-calling, the typical playbook, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic. They don't have an agenda to improve the lives of people. (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: But the scary-- HANNITY: Not a good time to be a Democrat. And that's-- (CROSSTALK) PIRRO: The scary part is people are going to think this is normal. You know, I wasn't just in a restaurant, I was invited to go there and speak. This is -- this is where people start to copy what other people are doing. And what Americans-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's getting dangerous out there. PIRRO: Yes. HANNITY: It's getting dangerous for a lot of people. Everybody needs to take a deep breath. PIRRO: And that's you know-- HANNITY: You know what? There's an election coming up, focus on the next election. PIRRO: Right. And you know what? HANNITY: Focus on your candidate and, maybe, I don't even -- don't change. Just keep being as dumb as they are. That will be perfect. All right. Judge, I'm sorry you went through that. Thanks for sharing it. You didn't deserve it, by the way. The book, Liars, Leakers, and Liberals is out in bookstores. And when we come back, President Trump loving that Joe Biden, crazy Uncle Joe, might run against him in 2020. I happen to be all for it. We got Jesse Watters and Jessica Tarlov who will win tonight it's your world. Straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. We have some good news tonight. Crazy Uncle Joe Biden, he might be setting his sights on running for president in 2020. According to reports, Joe Biden says he will decide whether he is running for president by January. Now President Trump responded to Joe Biden's possible run on CBS' Evening News. Let's take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEFF GLOR, ANCHOR, CBS NEWS: Let me ask you about 2020. Who do you think your Democratic opponent will be? Joe Biden says he will make a decision by January. Is he a tough opponent? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, I dream, I dream about Biden, that's a dream. Look, Joe Biden ran three times, he never got more than 1 percent, and President Obama took him out of the garbage heap, and everybody was shocked that he did. I'd love to have it be Biden. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Yes. He can run on Obama's failed record. If crazy Uncle Joe does decide to run against Trump, it will be interesting. Let's take a look at some of his, proudest moments. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THEUNITED STATES: My mother believe and my father believe that if I wanted to be president of the United States, I could be vice president! (APPLAUSE) (muted) his mom lived in Long Island for 10 years or so, God rest her soul, but, wait, your mom is still -- your mom is still alive, your dad passed. God bless her soul. Chuck Graham, state senator here. Chuck, stand up, Chuck, let's see you. God love you, what am I talking about? The man who will be the next president of the United States, Barack. Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking. CHRIS WALLACE, FOX NEWS HOST: What kind of a chance will the northeastern liberal like Joe Biden stand in the south? BIDEN: Better than anybody else. And you don't know about my state. It state was a slave state, my state is a border state. My state is the eighth largest black population in the country. He's not the first sort of mainstream America who is articulate and bright, and clean, nice looking guy, I mean, that's a story. They are going to put you all back in chains. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: First mainstream African-American that's clean and articulate. My state is a slave state. You can't go to a 7-eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. Here with reaction, the co-host of The Five, he's got two shows. The host of Watters World, Jesse Watters, and Fox News contributor, Jessica Tarlov. OK, Jessica. JESSICA TARLOV, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: OK. HANNITY: Imagine any Republican said those really dumb things. What would -- what would or how would your side react? TARLOV: The same way that we did when Donald Trump said things like that, and he ended up getting elected. So I guess Joe Biden will be just fine. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let's talk about Donald Trump. Let's talk about Joe, crazy Uncle Joe. TARLOV: Yes, crazy, I've heard that. I mean, frankly, some of those gaffes aren't terrible at all, they're just misspeaking. He's been in politics 30, 40 years now. There's going to be things on a tape that would be embarrassing as it were. But I don't think that has any bearing on what and how he would do in 2020 running against Donald Trump, who should runs reels for hours and hours of President Trump. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Hey, listen. He could run on his record. TARLOV: Yes. HANNITY: By the way, Jesse, the record speaks for itself. Let's see, 30 million more Americans on food stamps, lowest labor participation rate since the '70s, you have eight million more Americans in poverty after eight years, the worst recovery since the 40s, lowest home ownership in 51 years. JESSE WATTERS, FOX NEWS HOST: Yes. HANNITY: Now we'll compare that to the Trump economy, and how is that going to work out? WATTERS: I mean, Donald Trump has a better record, he has a better economy, and he has a better hair than Joe Biden. TARLOV: Joe Biden I think he has great hair! WATTERS: I'm not so sure. Joe Biden is a gas machine, he's got no base, he's got no money, he's got no crowd size. And he is a straight white male, which is a little too much privilege for the Democratic Party, I don't know if you are going to be able to handle that. Plus, the guy is a little creepy. Ever see those videos where he is doing the massages and the whispering to young women? TARLOV: I think a lot of those are doctored. WATTERS: The minute Donald Trump re-tweets that video, game over. Creepy Uncle Joe, good night. So I don't think he stands a chance. HANNITY: All right. I'm going to start a new quiz section of the Jesse- Jessica segment, right? Put your hand up if you know the answer. WATTERS: OK. HANNITY: Under Uranium one happened under which administration. (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: Barack. HANNITY: Was it Obama or Trump, Jesse? WATTERS: Obama. HANNITY: OK. What about the Russian-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: We're going to talk Uranium One-- HANNITY: What about the Russia -- the Russia meddling and interference? Did that happen under Trump or Obama? WATTERS: Barack Obama. TARLOV: I feel like you guys are playing a game by yourselves. But-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: What about Crimea and Ukraine -- hang on, Crimea, we are playing a game. Crimea and Ukraine. Trump or Obama? WATTERS: I hate to do it. Barack Obama. HANNITY: What about the reset button that handed the little button over through Hillary to Russia. When did that happen? WATTERS: Crooked Hillary under Barack Obama. HANNITY: And what about who said to Dmitry Medvedev -- something wrong, Jessica? (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: Well-- HANNITY: Who said to Dmitry Medvedev-- TARLOV: -- I'm just waiting for when I get to play. HANNITY: -- who said, "I'll have a little more flexibility after the election, tell Vladimir?" WATTERS: I think that was Barack Hussein Obama, himself. TARLOV: It's nice you threw the middle name there. WATTERS: I said that. I just want to be thorough. TARLOV: OK. HANNITY: Who's been tougher on Russia, Obama or Trump? TARLOV: Wait, you have to say the other name. WATTERS: Donald J. Trump. HANNITY: Donald J. Trump. Jessica, I'm just trying to understand your sides freak out. Help us out. TARLOV: Freak out? HANNITY: Because all of this is happening under Obama's watch. TARLOV: I mean, our freak out-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Jesse gets an a-plus for getting every answer right. TARLOV: That is totally stunning tome. WATTERS: Thank you. Thank you. I deserve it. TARLOV: Yes. And because I won last time I know you really needed that for your ego here. WATTERS: Yes, I got sick of it. TARLOV: First of all-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Did meddling happen under Obama? TARLOV: The meddling did happen under Obama. HANNITY: The meddling happened with John Brennan. TARLOV: And Democrats have been critical of how the Obama administration handled that, but the president of the United States of America today, Donald J. Trump, as you like to call him, stood up there next to Vladimir Putin's and said that he didn't meddle in the election which everyone knows that he did. HANNITY: No. I actually played it on the air last night, you got to pay close attention to the show. Because I played at least seven separate instances where he said Russia did meddle in the election. He said it over and over and over again. TARLOV: Yes. HANNITY: And so it's not something that he had not said previously many times before. TARLOV: OK, so it's the seven times he received the classified information before his inauguration day that the Russians had meddled in the election. For all seven times that he has said that, and they were pretty wobbly anyway-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: He said it, right, Jesse? TARLOV: -- he said 100 of times that they didn't, he says it's a witch hunt, it's not a witch hunt, also, you have, why are you laughing, Jesse? (CROSSTALK) WATTERS: I'm just laughing-- TARLOV: You got to say like Barack Obama, Barack Obama. WATTERS: I'm just laughing because you guys are so tough on Russia. Russia ran wild under Barack Hussein Obama. You guys did nothing until little Hillary Clinton got embarrassed with some e-mails that came out about Chelsea and her wedding. TARLOV: That's so-- WATTERS: Please, you guys are not tough, you think global warming is more of a threat than terrorism. You're afraid to pour water-- (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: That's not true. WATTERS: -- on terrorist's heads. You guys have done nothing on Russia, and now you complain because it's an excuse for losing the election. (CROSSTALK) TARLOV: There are plenty of-- WATTERS: You know what really cost her the election? She fainted, she was a terrible candidate, she didn't go to Wisconsin, and she called half the country deplorable. I think that had a little bit more to do with losing. HANNITY: All right. I got to roll. I want you to know, so, Jessica, the last time we were together got her first win. Jesse now has come back and he's won 100 to nothing. That's never happened. WATTERS: Yes. TARLOV: No, it's-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: It's now. Do it-- WATTERS: Let's tell everybody where Jessica was last week. Remember? HANNITY: It's now back to Jesse's world. WATTERS: Moscow. Jessica was in Moscow. TARLOV: I went into the semifinals of the World Cup in St. Petersburg. HANNITY: The first time we've ever had a perfect score goes to Jesse Watters. TARLOV: This is insane. WATTERS: Here we go. Sorry, maybe next time. TARLOV: Thank you. HANNITY: Maybe next time. All right. All right. Good to see you both. Still to come, there's probably no one else out there in the world that knows more about the hatred of the media that they have for Donald Trump than Sean Spicer. He joins us next, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. The mainstream media outdid themselves this week, proving once again that they are not interested in journalism, all they seem to care about is destroying Trump, delegitimizing his presidency, and going after, as we saw with Judge Jeanine, anybody that likes the president. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DON LEMON, CNN HOST: Can we still call President Trump the leader of the free world? Can we still call him the leader of the United States? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's just as serious to me as the Cuban missile crisis in terms of an attack, or the 9/11 attacks. His performance today will live in infamy as much as the Pearl Harbor attack or Kristallnacht. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When do we see almost a shadow government come out and say, we cannot side with the government, whether it's the cabinet or the senate? BILL KRISTOL, EDITOR-AT-LARGE, THE WEEKLY STANDARD: Trump has been a problem as I say, and now I feel it's a crisis of real urgency, and I'm not sure what we can do except to try to contain him in various ways. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The definition it needs is the first word in the impeachment article of the Constitution which is treason, bribery, and high crimes and misdemeanors. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You had a one word reaction to what you saw yesterday. Treason. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Treason. Yes. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Here with reaction, also with a brand-new book it's out this week, "The Briefing Politics: The Press and the President" former White House press secretary, Sean Spicer. You know, look, you live this every day for a while. I told you at the time, I don't know why you do that job. I think Sarah Sanders I said the same thing to her, and I did see her briefly in Helsinki. One particular case, all of the meddling and interference happened under Obama. Uranium One happened under Obama, Crimea and Ukraine happened under Obama, the Syria red line happened under Obama, and I'm looking at this, I'm like, they've lost all sense of any objectivity. What do you think it is? SEAN SPICER, FORMER UNITED STATES WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I think clearly they have a problem. They thought that Hillary Clinton was going to win the election, they were wrong, and now they refuse to give President Trump the credit he deserves in each of the areas, whether it's the economic policy, foreign policy, what have you. No matter how much good the president does, no matter how he reshapes the judiciary, deregulates the regulatory states, it's never good enough, and there's always a problem. I talk about this extensively in the book. How we face that headwind on every single issue. No matter what we did and it started throughout the campaign, it started on day one. It was literally the press trying to delegitimize the president, to find a way to go into that Oval Office and say, there's something wrong. They falsely accused the president of taking the bust out of the Oval Office of Martin Luther King. I mean, and that's -- throughout my entire book, part of the reason that I wanted to write this book, Sean, was to make people understand the headwinds that we faced every day in terms of this administration and this president. HANNITY: You know, you've had a very interesting life and background, and your family, actually, you grew up in Rhode Island, which surprised me. Right? SPICER: Well, I didn't say -- I think, yes, I did. Yes. HANNITY: I live in the next town over for five years. SPICER: I know. HANNITY: Which is interesting. And the thing is, you served your country, and then you go into battle with this group of people that just want to destroy you every single day. What do you take out of it? What have you learned? I know what doesn't kill us makes us stronger, and I'm giving you every cliche, but you still lived it. SPICER: Well, I think number one, you're right. It makes us stronger, it makes us better, and better conservatives in my case. I think that you have to refine your argument, you have to be stronger and smarter and constantly thinking, because you're right. They come at you with everything they have, and the more successful that you maybe may had -- the more success that you may have, the stronger they are going come at you. And that's -- you've seen that time and time again. No matter what we've done on the conservative side, they are going to come after us in general. This president, I think every one of the studies, whether it's Harvard, pew, the Media Research Center, every single one of them, the preponderance of coverage is highly negative. The press should go after politicians and government officials, it should seek the truth-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But you said-- SPICER: -- but 90 percent of the time doesn't make sense. HANNITY: But even at the expense -- it's like the Democrats don't want this president to succeed because if he does, as he is doing, that is a real clear and present danger to their main goal which is to get power back. So every success makes them more desperate. SPICER: Right. You heard -- you heard Bill Maher, who so many people love to go on his show and treat him with, you know, as if he is a normal journalist. The bottom line is, that he talked about, he wants the economy to tank because that's the only way you're going to defeat him. Think about what that means to every average day Americans. HANNITY: Yes. It means people lose jobs that need them. The forgotten men and women. The book is fantastic, I'm reading it now, loving every minute of it, it's in bookstores everywhere, Amazon.com, "The Briefing," Sean Spicer, thanks for being with us. All right. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh explains why you, the American people, are not buying this feigned phony outrage on the Russian hysteria. That's next. HANNITY: Following the president's assignment with Vladimir, the left and the destroy Trump media did everything they could to attack the president. Earlier today, on his massive radio show, Rush Limbaugh explains how the polls show nobody cares. Too bad. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: Here's the question, what do you think is the most important problem facing the country today? Open-ended, pick whatever you want, whatever comes to mind. What has been dominating the news? For the past week, the past month, the past two months, what has been dominating the news? Trump colluding with Russia. Russia meddling in the election. Our election maybe may have been illegitimate. Donald Trump may be a Russian spy. Donald Trump, you name it, that has been the lead item. So, few people answered the situation with Russia that asterisks are in place of numbers. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: They don't care. Rush is right 100 percent. All right. We will never be the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Jason Chaffetz in for Laura Ingraham. How are you, sir? JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS HOST: Doing great. Thanks, Sean. Appreciate it. HANNITY: Have a great show. Load-Date: July 20, 2018 End of Document Are Congress and Intel agencies getting along?; Donald Trump says media wants war with Russia Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST July 19, 2018 Thursday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8204 words Byline: Jason Chaffetz; Guests: Daniel Hoffman; Jeff Battey; Chris Hahn; Ron Desantis; Howard Kurtz; John Garamendi; Andy Biggs Body RUSH LIMNAUGH, HOST THE RUSH LIMAUGH SHOW: Are in place of numbers. SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: They don't care, Rush is right 100 percent. All right we will not be to destroy Trump media let not your heart to be troubled, Jason Chaffetz in for Laura Ingraham. How are you sir? JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEW CONTRIBUTOR: Doing great Sean, thanks I appreciate it. HANNITY: Have a great show. CHAFFETZ: Welcome to the Ingraham Angle on a busy news night. I'm Jason Chaffetz in Laura Ingraham, from Washington. Coming up, what is the status of congress' relationship with the Intel agencies? Florida Congressman Ron Desantis is here to react to comments by Dan Coats and Rod Rosenstein earlier today. Plus are the media and Democratic Party beating the war drums with Russia? We'll dive into some questionable language coming from both entities on the subject. And is it possible the FBI covered up a damaging foreign hack of Hillary's server? `Clinton Cash' author Peter Sweitzer is here to peel back the curtain. But we begin tonight with the oh so curious timing of a damaging leak, targeting President Trump and why it may have come from the unholy alliance of James Comey, Jim Clapper and John Brennan. It was a headline that sent the media apparatus into apoplexy. The New York Times blaring, "From the start, Trump has muddied a clear message Putin interfered" Of course this meeting was not a secret and the findings not exactly new, don't believe me? Here's the headline from the Washington Post on January sixth of the 2017 "Declassified report says Putin ordered effort to undermine faith in U.S. election and help Trump" So what can we glean from the New York Times repackaging a report just days after the president's much criticized meeting with Vladimir Putin? First let's look at some of the key officials who were in that meeting, John Brennan the CIA director at the time, James Clapper the director of national intelligence at the time, and at the time, the FBI director James Comey. Second, let's take a look at what these men have been saying since the Trump Putin Summit. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY: What Mr Trump did yesterday was to betray the women and men of the FBI, the CIA, NSA and others. And to betray the American public and that's I use the term that this was nothing short of treasonous because it is a betrayal of the nation. JAMES CLAPPER, FORMER DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: This president and this presidency and who is insulting values and institutions and standards which collectively we spent decades of defending. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: And here's what Jim Comey tweeted, "This Republican Congress had proved incapable of fulfilling the Founder's design that ambition must counteract ambition. All those who believe in this country's values must vote Democrats this fall. Policy differences don't matter right now, history has its eyes one us" So what might someone reasonably deduce given above information? Wouldn't it be fair to believe that perhaps the president was the victim of a coordinated leak? One that was orchestrated to inflict maximum damage to him? To answer these questions let's bring in former CIA officer Jeff Battey, former CIA chief of station Dan Hoffman as well as Radio Host and former aide to Chuck Schumer Chris Hahn. Gentlemen thank you so much for being here. Look, these three people at the head of our intelligence agencies at the time have now all exposed their political meanings to he left and the Democrats. I'll start with you Daniel sitting with ne here in studio. Is that an unreasonable assumption? Is that a leap to suggest that maybe these gentlemen used their intelligence backgrounds to maybe push the table in Hillary's direction? DANIEL HOFFMAN, FORMER CIACHIRF OF STATION: I mean it's possible you could speculate that. I would just start with John Brennan because he was my boss at the CIA. I served in Moscow for five years, I know him well. And I'll have to be truthful he and I always didn't agree on everything. There were lots of times it I told him things he needed to know and didn't want to hear and didn't always react so favourably. I think his partisan remarks might have been taken with maybe with a little bit more positively if he admitted some of the mistakes from the Obama administration like the very ill fated and naive reset policy. Those who are criticizing this administration for not being tough on Russia might want to look in the mirror and just talk about some of those lessons learned. CHAFFETZ: Now Jeff I believe it was Director Comey who said he doesn't do sneaky things, he said he doesn't leak, he said he doesn't do weasley things but then we see in his own words and in his own actions that he did do those things. How can he have any credibility and would he be up to doing such a thing as leaking this information? JEFF BATTEY, FORMER CIA CASE OFFICER: I would certainly say it's possible. You know my colleague from the agency will recognise this saying, there's an old saying and it's kind of a joke that goes, "Admit nothing, deny everything, make counter accusations" And that's what we've been seeing play out on a grand scale. You know when you go back this all started timing wise with Hillary and her email scandal and nothing was admitted initially. Hillary denied everything saying, "I had nothing that was classified then I had nothing that was marked classified" You know it just was a series and now to make accusations. They realise that they needed to go out on the attack because they were really hanging out there because Hillary had to be getting emails on this unauthorized system by her peers. Now who were her peers? The president perhaps and even others so there's a lot of people being protected. CHAFFETZ: Now Chris the context here is I think everybody thought that Hillary Clinton was going to get elected on election night. The Trumps saw something that maybe the rest of us didn't see but they did get elected and then the media and the apparatus, the deep state, they just started going nuts. So when you hear these accusations, how do you respond to that? CHRIS HAHN, RADIO HOST: I'm listening to these guys ad we're talking about Hillary's emails today? We want to know what happened in Helsinki and I'm old enough to know that there was a chairman of the house oversight committee named Jason Chaffetz who would have looked into this with a fine tooth comb and had done his duty as a member of congress and put a reasonable check on the president of the United States. If Hillary's emails are still the issue, Hillary's emails is why she's not the president of the United States. The FBI's actions in investigating Hillary and reopening the investigation ten days, that proves that James Comey was not on the bag for Hillary, in fact it proves the BATTEY: Who was Hillary emailing? She was emailed herself? There were other people. HAHN: I let you talk, I let you talk. So It doesn't matter at this point. It doesn't matter at this point, we have a president of the United States who at the very best looked weak in front of Putin on Monday at the worst it's something we don't even want to talk about because it's so called darn ironical. Remember the congress and these CHAFFETZ: It does. Chris I want to play a quote from President Obama that happened before elections and I know you've heard it but listen to this quote. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America's elections in part because they're so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: So Chris these same three characters, Brennan and Clapper and Comey, they were in charge when this type of hacking and attack happened and there are a lot of us that think, maybe what they are trying to do now is deflect and distract because of the fact that all of a sudden they're being called out for this and they didn't do their jobs back when they were in charge. HAHN: Jason you're clearly not suggesting that the Russians didn't try to interfere with our election? CHAFFETZ: I do think they're in charge and I so think they did it and I don't think that Brennan and Clapper and Comey have come clean on that. HAHN: The president doesn't think it. OK whatever. Let's have a congressional hearing and bring them on along with the DNR that's there and other members that can answer these questions. Congress should be holding hearings like the hearing you held about Benghazi, like the hearings you held about her email server. We need to have hearings on t what's going on with the Russians and how they're trying to influence the election right now. CHAFFETZ: Devin Nunes as the chairman of the Intel committee has been talking about for years and those gentlemen have testified multiple times and they have them. HAHN: For some reason the president has held, Devin Nunes is being influenced by somebody. So when's the hearing? Have a hearing. Have a public hearing. CHAFFTEZ: These people came to congress and misled the American and congress. Jeff I'm going to go to you. HAHN: I don't believe that. I don't believe that. CHAFFETZ: I do, I really do. Jeff you're experience, CIA. Is it possible that they didn't know these things and why would President Obama go to great lengths to tell the world that there was nothing like this happening? BATTEY: I think of course they knew. They knew that this was going on. But I think it was another failure on Brennan's part primarily. He was the director of central intelligence you know and he underestimated the threat and he failed. He failed to protect the system .OK so we can have hearings about that bit the reason you asked the question earlier Jason about, "Why did people go nuts after Trump was elected?" Is because you heard the rhetoric the election, "Lock her up" There was so much wrongdoing that was going on that the opposition, the resistance had to go on the offensive to try and make the Tump administration play defence and that's what they tried to do. You know real quickly this all goes back to a stupid decision when Hillary attacked in 2011, Putin the legitimacy of his election. And did she think that she could try to undermine his credibility, his election, his process without having him fire back? HAHN: What are we supposed to do be all for a rubber restricted election? Shouldn't we stand for democracy around the world? CHAFFETZ: The reality is I think the Russians and others tried to hack into the republican systems but they were pushed back because they actually had some security on them. And the reason the Democrats don't want to give up their server or anything else is because they wouldn't let the FBI look at it. But Daniel I want to get to your take, who do you concur with here? How do you view this? HOFFMAN: I just first I have to say Secretary Clinton was absolutely right to call out Russia for election violations, human rights violations. Russia considers America its main enemy. They have been running these sorts of operations for years against us. They ran a massive cyber attack against the Estonians and then against Georgia in 2008 and against Ukraine. So we knew they were doing it to others, we knew they were doing it to us, we did not effectively counter Russia and deter them and that's what my concern is. CHAFFETZ: Chris you're going to get the last word here but that's why so many of us were frustrated with Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and that silly little reset button because they tried to downplay all that. They mocked Mitt Romney and you have these people that were in the professional intelligence agencies telling us everything was alright and it wasn't. And they only started saying it wasn't once Donald Trump became the president. HAHN: And it turns out that Mitt Romney was right and that's why the Russians, through Maria Butina, blocked him from becoming the secretary of state and there should be a hearing to figure that out. CHAFFETZ: Wait, wait Chris, say that again. I didn't hear that, say that again? Yeah, Mitt Romney was right, Barack Obama was flat out wrong. HAHN: It turns out that Mitt Romney was right. Look, look, one of the things I like about you Jason is you're a former place ticker just like me and we know netter, we want to know the truth and I want to know what happened and I hope you do too. And I hope congress does its job. CHAFFETZ: Fair enough. Gentlemen thank you, I appreciate it. As the director of national intelligence Dan Coats is President Trump's top spy, but for how long? That's the big question tonight after director Coats made these comments about the Helsinki comment today that couldn't have made the president very happy. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DAN COATS, DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: Yeah I wished he'd made a different statement. But I think now that it has been clarified. I don't know what happened in that meeting but I think as time goes by and the president has already mentioned some things that go on in that meeting I think we will learn more. But that is the president's prerogative. If he had asked me how that ought to be conducted, I would have suggested a different way, but that's not my role, that's not my job so it is what it is. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Joining me now for reaction is Republican Congressman Ron Desantis who is running for the governor of Florida. I had the pleasure of serving with Ron on the congress and on the oversight committee and also on the judiciary committee so congressman thank you for joining us. What's your reaction to what director Coats was saying and have you started the countdown clock on how long he might have his job? CONGRESSMAN RON DESANTIS (R) FLORIDA: Well good to see you Jason. You know I have a lot of respect for Dan Coats. I think he served the country honourably, I have confidence in him in term of his capabilities. I just wonder whether that Aspen festival is the right place to be talking about that. If you had concerns then just bring it to the president but to do it in front of that crowd you know I don't think that was necessarily the right way to go. CHAFFETZ: You know Congressman, you and Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows, John Radcliffe, Trey Gowdy, I mean the list is long, you've been trying to extract documents from these people and yet you see them all in Aspen. My guess is they didn't take a Delta flight or Southwest to get there. How does that make you feel when you see all these people hanging out in Aspen but you can't get them to come to Capitol Hill? DESANTIS: Well it's frustrating but Jason I mean you know why this is happening and you and I tried to bring accountability to the IRS Commissioner when he was pulling a lot of the same stuff. We tried to actually impeach him. We didn't get the support that we needed throughout the entire House of Representatives and I think the same thing here is we've not yet imposed the sanction on Rosenstein. So if you say you want these documents which we definitely are entitle to, set a date and hold them in contempt if he doesn't produce it. But instead it's kind of back and forth and I think he's just running out the clock on this stuff. I don't think he wants to comply with what we're asking for. CHAFFETZ: Well I'm no longer in congress, you are so why haven't dropped that? I mean the clock is ticking, you literally have days before the next election. You're in a handful of days, is there anything that's actually going to happen? DESANTIS: Well we should do it and I've been arguing for months. Let's just set that contempt date. If we don't have the documents we proceed to do it. If we do have the documents then we cancel the hearing so that's what we should do, will we do it? I don't know, I just don't the answer to that because as you know you need to get a certain amount of members who get on board for doing it. But if we could get that information I think that would shed a lot of light on a lot of the problems we've seen and really just scratch the surface of identifying what people like Peter Stzrok and his ant-Trump bias as really the mover and shaker behind this whole collusion and narrative. CHAFFETZ: Noe before the president showed up in Helsinki for the summit with Mr Putin, there were some indictments that were dropped. A, do you think that those will actually do anything and what did you think of the timing of those indictments? DESANTIS: I don't think they'll end up doing anything because I don't think that anyone's actually going to ever be there to stand trial for them. And first of all, we've responded to Russia's cyber activity, you and I supported sanctions at the beginning of the congress. I'd be willing to do more but I think the political response is probably effective. I mean to just do an indictment and never try the case I think it was more for show and I don't think it was going to amount to very much. And most of the information in that indictment was exactly what Devin Nunes and his committee had identified several months ago so we didn't really learn very much new in the indictment. CHAFFETZ: You know one of the things that the media doesn't seem to be talking about is upon the return President Trump really walked out of there with tens of billions of dollars in commitment from our NATO partners to beef up the forces on those who are pro USA and maybe not so pro Russia and that doesn't get talked about. But is there anything that you and congress is going to be able to do to fortify the president and continue to push NATO? DESANTIS: Well I'm a supporter of NATO but at the same time, NATOS's status quo, there's problems with NATO. Trump obviously has been very forceful in identifying the failure of some of our European allies to maintain appropriate defence levels. Look, I have concerns about Turkey's role in NATO. If you at what IRTA One is doing with just being an Islamist and then recently with the controversy so I think it's healthy to be trying to push this in a different direction. But we all are all committed to NATO and I think the president's committed to NATO as well. CHAFFETZ: Congressman thank you, Ron Desantis in Florida tonight, thank you very much. DESANTIS: Thank you. CHAFFETZ: President Trump says the media wants a war with Russia, we'll tell you why coming up next. CHAFFETZ: It's been more than three days since Trump's meeting with Putin in Helsinki but the media are still in a frenzy over the whole ordeal. Frustrate with the negative coverage, President Trump said this morning that the media wants a war with Russia and from some of the hysterics seen in the last 24 hours, he may not be wrong. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: President Trump is not taking the interest of the country first, he's taking his personal interest or some other interests first. MATTHER MILLER, MSNBC ANALYST: It made me wonder if people were suspicious that he revealed classified intelligence including human source information to the President of the Russian Federation, that's a real concern. THOMAS COUNTRYMAN, CHAIRMAN OF THE ARMS CONTROL ASSOCIATION: Meddling is an inaccurate word to describe what Russia did here. Meddling is something your mother in law might do in your marriage, this was an attack. This was an attack upon American democracy. BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN HOST: Which is the word that he used earlier this week but you are absolutely right sir. Attack, attack U.S. democracy. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Joining me now for analysis is Howard Kurtz, host of Media Buzz which airs Sundays at 11 am eastern right here on the Fox News Channel, thank you so much for being here, appreciate it. But what you take? I mean I see a lot hysteria but I'm a partisan Republican, I get that. But I mean come on, they've lots they're marbles haven't they? HOWARD KURTZ, FOX NEWS HOST: Well let's start with this. President Trump made a serious mistake in Helsinki and he tried the next day to clarify it. And the media reaction was, "Not happening, no do over for you" They have tried to minimize and mock what he has said, "It's a hostage tape, he wasn't sincere, it was done with a wink and a nod" One CNN anchor said, "Does he think we Americans are stupid?" And so when you hear all of that the bottom line here is that, look it's fine to be sceptical. But the bottom line is they want to keep this fury going and they wasn't to keep the moral condemnation going. CHAFFETZ: How do they seem to be so coordinated? I mean when I look at it and I look across the spectrum, it's not just one or two but they seem to be coordinated. And there seem to be this buzz words that just catch on. Is anybody have any idea how that happens so simultaneously? KURTZ: Well look it's no secret that much of the does not like this president, doesn't agree with his policies, doesn't even like his style so some of the buzz words is where it going over the top. For example, he's being accused of treason, he's been called a traitor, for messing up a press conference suddenly he's Benedict Arnold. And I think that when that kind of hysterical overreaction happens, and again I think that the criticism was legitimate in the beginning. Many Conservatives were critical of the president including some of your former colleagues on the Hill, including some people here at Fox. But that kind of hysterical overreaction convinces half of the country that there's no way that the media can be fair to this guy and it just raises basic questions about fairness and difference. CHAFFETZ: It really does play into the presidents hands doesn't it? I mean there are times that I think that some of the things that the president will do and tweet about are done to just poke the media because it does expose them for who they really are and the biases that they really have. KURTZ: Oh he loves to poke the media and all too often the media fall into the trap so if he makes a mistake or a misstatement or something like that sometimes it could be a 10 but the media make it an 11, they go to 13, they go to 15. CHAFFETZ: But what happened to journalism in this country? I want to play a clip that President Trump said but I didn't see much if any coverage on this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UITED STATES: Getting along with President Putin, getting along with Russia's a positive not a negative. Now, with that being said if that doesn't work out, I'll be the worst enemy he's ever had, the worst he's ever had. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Now that was a live broadcast and I think the president's right to do that because he can go out unfiltered. Much like when he went out on the North Lawn and he talked to Mr Doocy there from Fox and Friends. I think that was the president probably at the best. KURTZ: It was unscripted. CHAFFETZ: But does the media have any semblance of any responsibility to play a clip that put's into balance how he says, "I'll be Putin's worst nightmare"? KURTZ: Yeah and then you can comment on that absolutely. Now I don't agree with President Trump when he says the media want war with Russia which we like fist fights and somebody ends up with a broken nose. But I do believe clips like the one you played, what's happening now is the media narrative and everyone in the press feels vindicated. They're now being asked what used to be on the fringes Jason, being asked in mainstream publications and mainstream segments, "What does Putin have on Trump, why won't he be tougher" and so when you have that attitude and the president says, "Oh he'll be my worst enemy if it doesn't work out" It tends to get minimised, dismissed and this is where I think the constant hostility towards this president, not everybody and some of these opinionated former Obama folks who have contracts now at MSNBC and CNN. But that's where you see the narrative going and again, the criticism justified in my view in the beginning now you see an effort to whip it up, to go to 15 to use words like treason and I think that goes too far. CHAFFETZ: It does. Howard I'm honoured that you would come be here. Don't tell anybody I'm just kind of faking it as newscaster here. KURTZ: It will be our secret. CHAFFETZ: All right thank you, I appreciate it. And Media Buzz Sundays 11 am. Speaking of Russia it may be just the media who want a war. The Democrats are suggesting the president jeopardized national security in his closed door meeting with Trump. And are suddenly starting to sound like neo- conservatives. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SCHIFF (D) CALIFORNIA, HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE MEMBER: Did the president make concessions to Putin? Did the president share classified information with Putin? Did the president take other steps beyond those that he took so publicly to undermine the security of the Unite States? This is what prompted this discussion of Montenegro recently that's a high priority of Vladimir Putin's and to have the president of the United States say, "Why should we risk people over Montenegro?" That's exactly what the Kremlin wants to hear. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Here to react is Congressman Andy Biggs a Republican from Mayfair Arizona and Congressman John Garamendi a Democrats from California. Gentleman thank you for being here, I had the honour and privilege of serving with both of you in this congress and I appreciate you coming and joining us tonight to give us a bi partisan perspective. Congressman Garamendi I'll give you the first word here. For a president to go and meet with the Russian president is a good thing isn't it? And to think that the Democrats are taking it way way too far when they talk about treason and those types of things? CONGRESSMAN JOHN GARAMENDI (D) CALIFORNIA: Well there's no doubt and your previous guest Howard said it very very well. The president really did mess up in his press conference, there's no doubt about that. What actually happened in the two houra is extremely important. Right now we're in the process of writing the final version of Annual National Defence Authorization Act and we do know that the president just four months ago said Russia and China were our principle adversaries. What happened in that four hour meeting that we need to know as we finish it up? Do we have to change the directions that we're setting? Do we have to provide different money for different armaments or less money for some armaments? We don't know that so that secret meeting is of serious concern going forward for the policies that congress has to enact and the that we have to appropriate. Similarly we have not heard of the term confidential classified briefing on Singapore or NATO itself so there's things that this administration needs to share with congress. As to the ongoing controversy, well the president just continues to cause it. CHAFFETZ: Let me bring in Congressman Biggs. You know when I hear the Democrats suddenly getting tough on Russia and they sound like war mongers, I mean they've morphed into a totally different party than I've ever heard or seen in the past. I mean you had President Obama saying, "There's no threat. Hey they just need a little bit more time so they can negotiate" Yeah and Hillary Clinton with the reset button. How do you view it on the floor of the House? CONGRESMMAN ANDY BIGGS (R) ARIZONA: Well I think it's true that they've changed their philosophical bent and I don't think it's permanent because I always thought of them as neo Liberal institutionalists. What I mean by that is they viewed themselves as finding some great allegiance. But I'm not classifying everybody but most of them, they viewed themselves as having allegiance to these multiple lateral institutions like the United Nations, like NATO and what have you. Now what they're spinning out is, "Wait a second, Russia is this tremendous enemy and now we need to make sure we're protecting nations like Montenegro and there's this mystery going on here" I think they've spun themselves so up because they don't like President Trump but they've actually change their fundamental understanding of who they are from a philosophical point of view. CHAFFETZ: Congressman Garamendi, how do you feel about that, because a lot of people have said those types of things? REP. JOHN GARAMENDI, (D) CALIFORNIA: Well, whatever they're saying, Andy says have I changed my fundamental understanding of where I am, the reality is that the Democrats have said forever that we need a strong and wise military. Wise in the sense that how we use that military. And I voted for continuing on the Armed Services Committee for the National Defense Authorization Act. I do have questions about where the money is spent and whether it is spent wisely and that is my job. But the president himself, if I might just a moment, the president himself has said Russia is our principal adversary. That was the national defense policy that was emanated by him just a couple of months ago. Now the Montenegro thing is extremely -- CHAFFETZ: But wait a second. Congressman, and I have the greatest respect for you. You are one of the nicest gentleman that I have ever interacted with on either side of the aisle. But I've got to tell you, the Democrats under Barack Obama, every single time we turned around the only thing they were willing to cut was the defense budget. It's only been President Trump and the Republicans that have pushed that budget up. And they went to grant thanks to mock Mitt Romney and others for even suggesting what Devin Nunes said, which is that our geopolitical flow was Russia. GARAMENDI: The facts, yes, we want to have a wise expenditure of the taxpayers' money. And Let's face it, there are many things that the military does that one should appropriately question whether that is the appropriate expenditure of the taxpayer money. On the other hand, this Montenegro thing speaks to the heart of NATO. NATO is extraordinarily important to America because it brings together European countries the -- CHAFFETZ: Congressman, we are going to have to another Montenegro segment. But I want to get Congressman Biggs to have the last word. Last word to Congressman Biggs here. How do you see this going forward? I see the philosophical bent has changed. It truly has. And the idea that we are going to now ratchet up the rhetoric and potentially cause a firestorm, that is really not where the Democrats have been. They have actually emasculated the military under the previous administration. Maybe not John, because he is a great guy. But his party dead. And the administration died. And we've had to build that back up. And I think President Trump is saying, Russia is a foe, but we are better off if we are going to have these negotiations and we can find points of commonality. That's what I think is so important. And that is why I find it very interesting that my colleagues on the other side of the aisle are spinning this out of control. And moreover, the media is casting the strange narrative of treason. It's absolutely wild. CHAFFETZ: Congressmen, thank you both. I truly do appreciate it. But we do have to go. REP. ANDY BIGGS, (R) ARIZONA: The story the left does not want to hear you about, Hillary Clinton's emails. That's up next. CHAFFETZ: Welcome back. The media can't stop talking about Trump and Russia hacking. But what about Hillary? A quick history lesson -- back in 2015, the intelligence community issued a security referral, not a criminal referral, regarding the classified emails on Hillary's server. A letter from the inspectors general of the intelligence community and the State Department at the time wrote, "These emails were not retroactively classified by the State Department, rather these emails contain classified information when they were generated, and according to IC classification officials, that information remains classified today. This classified information should never have been transmitted via an unclassified personal system." Fast forward to last month when the DOJ released its inspector general report on the investigation, which published the FBI's own internal file review. It said, quote, "The FBI's inspection division successfully determined" -- remember that part -- "successfully determined classified information was improperly stored and transmitted on Clinton's email server, and classified information was compromised by unauthorized individuals to include foreign governments or intelligence services," adding that, quote, "treatment of the investigation, as a traditional espionage matter, rather than a criminal investigation, significantly hindered the ability of the investigative team to obtain full and accurate and timely information." As if things couldn't get worse, yesterday "The New York Times" reported the same Russian groups who hacked the DNC during the 2016 election also were involved in cyberattacks on the State Department while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state. Joining me now for reaction is Peter Schweizer, president of the Government Accountability Institute, and Harmeet Dhillon, the RNC committeewoman from California. Thank you both for being here. Peter, one of the things that I am so concerned about here is why -- now that we have had exposure, time to digest it, and the media's bringing it up again ala "The New York Times" about this hacking, and why is it that this started not as a criminal investigation, but a counterintelligence operation? PETER SCHWEIZER, PRESIDENT, GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY INSTITUTE: That is a great question, Jason. And here's the problem is you look at every step of this investigation of the Clinton email scandal, you have sloppiness on the part of the FBI. But the problem is, the sloppiness always rebounds to the benefit of the Clintons, which leads one to only conclude that there was effort to essentially want this story to go away or not hold the Clintons accountable. Keep in mind also in addition to what you just reported, Hillary Clinton destroyed, deleted 30,000 emails, and as he pointed out in the introduction, when those emails were created, they are by nature classified. So you have a situation where she was probably also deleting large amounts of classified information, yet there is no accountability whatsoever. This is the deep rot of the FBI. It requires further investigation. And this is what drives people crazy about criminal justice in America. There's a different set of standards for people in power, particularly those politically connected by the Clintons, and those same rules do not apply to ordinary Americans. CHAFFETZ: Harmeet, as you look at this and you see this, I had worked on this for a long, long time, and you worry that justice doesn't have a blindfold, that it's looking two different directions. But when President Trump goes out and says -- admits -- that, yes, Russians were working to, in a very negative way, very aggressive rate, against the United States' interests, that they were hacking, but also mentions that it perhaps owes others, and then you can go back and refer to the reports which confirm that, and the media is nowhere on this. They don't report it. They didn't report it then and they don't report it now. HARMEET DHILLON, ATTORNEY: Absolutely, Jason. In addition to everything that Peter said, which I agree with him, a couple of other facts. We also know that Hillary Clinton had been warned and was aware that her BlackBerry, which was not secure, was not allowed to be used in her State Department office, and yet she used it, and that may be tied to some of these leaks. We also know from recent testimony and facts that have come out that apparently out of those 30,000 emails, all but four of them are actually auto forwarded to some foreign power that we don't know. And Louie Gohmert has been very insistent on FOX News and elsewhere saying that the elsewhere was not Russia. So it was some other foreign power where these emails ended up. Michael Flynn has been saying this since 2015 as well, that multiple sources have attempted to and perhaps have had access. With all of this morass and all of this building up of facts, you have James Comey with Peter Strzok's assistant concluding that this was carelessness as opposed to gross negligence or criminal in nature. And so clearly it's a different set of facts for you and for me. And one more thing that I want to add here is that there's been a lot of hullabaloo in the media about the president being told right before his inauguration that the Russians had been attempting to target the United States and hacking. Remember that the same timeframe, two weeks before his inauguration, James Comey is telling the president-elect that the Russians have this kompromat on him that evolves this pee tape and this other nonsense that's not true. So you have to remember the context in which all -- CHAFFETZ: Yes, you also had President Obama going before the world and saying nobody could do this even if they tried, so don't even worry about it. Now, Peter, Tucker Carlson is reporting tonight, and the "Washington Examiner," I'm reading here a headline following up on Tucker Carlson's report, "Robert Mueller offers Tony Podesta immunity to testify against Paul Manafort." That is the report that's coming out tonight. Why -- we are looking at this. I'm springing this on you, we are just seeing it here at FOX, all of a sudden Tony Podesta is suddenly getting immunity. But is that typical? It always seems like the Clintons and people associated with the Democrats get immunity before they even go through the investigation. SCHWEIZER: If this reporting is accurate, and I have no reason to believe is not, it's a little bit like granting immunity to Bonnie to get at Clyde. The root of the problem with Paul Manafort -- and there are many, and I think they need to be investigated and he needs to be held to account -- a lot of it involves the Foreign Agents Registration Act, FARA, and the fact that he was doing a lot of work for foreign clients, lobbying work or consulting work, and he was not revealing that or registering with the Department of Justice. Well, guess what. Tony Podesta was also doing very similar things. And in fact, when the investigation really picked up steam on Paul Manafort, what did Tony Podesta do? He went and filed a lot of FARA reports with the Department of Justice going back previous years because he had failed to register before. So again, this question of justice, why is it that the FARA violations of Paul Manafort should be prosecuted -- by the way, I believe they should be if they are real, but why in the case of Tony Podesta are they not? It's mystifying, and it's only going to further frustrate Americans who again believe there are different standards. CHAFFETZ: And that's why you have to look at Mark Elias, whose general counsel Hillary Clinton, general counsel DNC, involved in the Podesta Group. This is quite a web. But who starts to get the immunity? It's those that are the Democrats in this case. Harmeet, I'm sorry, I wish we had more time. Peter, thank you so much for joining us. They're back. Governor Mike Huckabee joins is next to discuss why the Obamas all of a sudden are getting back into the political fray. CHAFFETZ: Welcome back. Are the Obamas plotting a political comeback? It sure seems like it. The former president taking thinly veiled shots at President Trump while in South Africa this week. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: Look around. Strongman politics are ascendant suddenly, whereby elections and some pretense of democracy are maintained, the form of it, but those in seek to undermine every institution or norm that gives democracy meaning. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: And Michelle Obama is back in the public spotlight starring in a so-called nonpartisan PSA with other celebrities that encourages voting registration. Joining me now to explain what's going on here is Mike Huckabee, a FOX News contributor and former governor of Arkansas. Governor, thank you so much for being here. We are about 80 days before the midterm, the first ballots in the midterm will be cast, and suddenly the Obamas are entering the political stage. What do you see going on here? MIKE HUCKABEE, (R) FORMER GOVERNOR OF ARKANSAS: It makes a lot of sense because they are a lot more popular than virtually any other Democrat, and putting them on the stage gives the mainstream Democrats kind of a little taste of nostalgia. If you've got a choice between listening to Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, or Hillary Clinton, it gets to be pretty easy as to who you want in the spotlight. And I listened to the former president's speech. I didn't think it was that outrageous. He didn't call out President Trump by name. It was pretty mild, especially by President Obama's standards when he was in office when he often called our people by name. So more power to him. I think if Republicans have some people that we want to try it out, that's great. And, frankly, this makes sense, because you don't want to but Maxine Waters, you don't want to put Elizabeth Warren, you don't want to put Hillary out there, and right now that is all they've got talking. CHAFFETZ: So the Democrats have come up with a new slogan. They dumped the one that they had. They tried to unveil a new one, I believe it's for the people. I see a party without a leader, begging, hoping for Barack Obama days, but then I also don't see a message in terms of policy. What do you see? HUCKABEE: Their message is, vote for us, we'll reverse all those tax cuts and take that money back from you and put it in the government's hands, we'll open up the borders, you really want to be safe in a lot of cities, and we want to reverse the economic gains we are making and take those bonuses back. That is the message. The Democrats' campaign moniker this year really ought to be something like, we are so cool that we can get rid of ICE, because that's their whole message. They got nothing, other than impeach 45, as Maxine Waters likes to scream at the top of her lungs. That is not a message. CHAFFETZ: Have you ever seen a party or even a candidate who just wants to dismantle law enforcement, that hates law enforcement? There are tens of thousands of ICE agents out there protecting us every day. How do you win at the national level by just trying to disparage federal employees? I never thought I would see Democrats doing it. HUCKABEE: Well, it doesn't seem to be a very strong strategy. I think overwhelmingly, American people appreciate, respect law enforcement. We know that the police underpaid, overworked, overstressed. They do a job that most of us don't do for 10 times the money, and we are grateful for what they do and the risk they take every single day. And for Democrats to have the attitude that we don't want to law enforcement, we want open borders, we want a government that is not held to be accountable for the things they do, that's not where I think the American people are. So they are going to either have to come up with a message. Right now they are just looking for messengers, and that is where Barack and Michelle Obama come in. I think that is a smart move on their part if they can get them to be active. But they still have to have a message, and it has to be bigger than, other than Donald Trump. CHAFFETZ: Let me play you a quick bite of Joe Biden because he seems to be making some rumblings. Trump -- I'm sorry, it's Trump talking about Biden. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who do you think your Democratic opponent will be? Joe Biden said he will make a decision by January. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I dream about Biden. That's a dream. Joe Biden ran three times, he never got more than one percent. And President Obama took him out of the garbage heap and everybody was shocked that he did. I would love to have it be Biden. (END VIDEO CLIP) CHAFFETZ: Biden or Holder, which one do you think? Which one is going to be there? HUCKABEE: Either one of them. But especially Biden -- think about this. We are really looking at a new Democratic movie called back to the future and Joe Biden rolls in in the DeLorean and talks about the good old days. This would be a dream team for the Republicans. You have got Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Hillary is still making noise. Please, God, let it be. CHAFFETZ: Yes, no new fresh blood there. Governor Huckabee, thank you very much. I appreciate you joining me. What to do Republican candidates around the country really think about President Trump? A candidate for the Senate in Michigan will tell us next. CHAFFETZ: President Trump is getting a lot of flak from the media and the left for his meeting with Vladimir Putin earlier this week. But how do Republican candidates soon facing the voters feel about the president? Let's ask one. John James, Republican candidate for United States Senate in Michigan, joins us now. Sir, I want to thank you first for your service to your country. You are a captain in the United States Army and I thank you for that service and thank you for joining us here today. You have an upcoming primary. You are looking at potentially running against Debbie Stabenow, who is the senator in Michigan. When people ask you about Trump or maybe the most recent meeting with Vladimir Putin, what do you tell people? Do you support the president? How do you react to them? JOHN JAMES, (R) U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE FOR MICHIGAN: It's not about what I tell them. It's about what they tell me. I said before I got on this journey to listen and learn before I lead. And what I actually heard when I was out walking in Detroit about a week or so ago, and I quote you, African-American male who is now working and just got a bonus from his employer because of the Trump tax cuts, said, and I quote, I don't mind Trump. He helps me and my babies eat good, end quote. What people really care about in Michigan is jobs. What people really care about in Michigan is taking care of their families. And they see somebody in the White House who will protect Americans interest, who will put someone like Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court, who will secure our borders and our entry points, defund sanctuary cities, and help protect ICE against liberal progressives who would tear down our law enforcement. These are things that people truly care about her Michigan. And I am very excited about it. CHAFFETZ: Do they care about the president's tweets? Do they care what MSNBC or CNN says? Does that come up in these discussions when you are walking around Michigan? JAMES: The thing is, when I go around the state of Michigan and places like Flint and Saginaw, people really don't care about with the pundits and talking heads say on the coasts. Right now Senator Stabenow has failed to effectively lead and bring things back. And there are areas like Flint, Saginaw, Detroit, the reasons I came back, that are still suffering, that don't look any better after 50 years. The people who I'm talking about in these cities have been neglected by Democrats, and after marching from Selma to Detroit and rebelling from Baltimore to Watts, people here haven't seen anything change in 50 years. Now it's different. I am the only conservative in this race. I've been endorsed by Right to Life Michigan, National Right to Life, Susan B. Anthony list, Senate Conservatives Fund, American Conservatives Union. I am the only one who can beat Debbie Stabenow. I have military experience being a West Point grad, ranger qualified Apache pilot, and also somebody who has grown my family business from $35 million to $137 million. CHAFFETZ: Captain, you have convinced me. You are not running from the Trump agenda, you are not running from the right. And I do think it will be a winning message. I have got just 10 seconds left. When people say, the Democrats say, hey, let's abolish ICE, what do you say? I've got 10 seconds. JAMES: I say we have to secure our borders, defund sanctuary cities, and protect ICE and our law enforcement officials. We need to actually defund sanctuary cities and use that money to fund ICE. Go to JohnJamesforSenate.com to learn more. CHAFFETZ: Nice pitch at the end. Well played, sir. I appreciate it. I thank you for your service to this country and all those veterans who are out there who have actually served their country and worn the colors of the flag on their sleeve. So thank you for that and thank you joining us tonight. An absolutely earth-shattering announcement from Chick-fil-A, one of my favorites. We'll tell you what it is next. CHAFFETZ: Before we go, I have some very important news to report. Chick- fil-A is getting rid of their beloved cow calendars. Now I'm a huge fan of Chick-fil-A. Nobody eats more nuggets than I do and I got a belly to prove it. But I've got to tell you, for them to retire that calendar with their coupons is utterly ridiculous. I didn't write that line. to be looking for the cow appreciation day but how are you going to tell when cow appreciation day is happening if you don't have a calendar? Shannon Bream is going to sort that out with Mike Pompeo. I'm sure it's one of the questions she's going to ask him. It's pressing here on THE INGRAHAM ANGLE. I'm Jason Chaffetz. Thanks for having me. Load-Date: July 20, 2018 End of Document Media's Hatred of Trump Reaches New Heights; Scalise Calls Out Obama Over Russia; The Democrats, the Left-Wing Media, the Liberals and the Corrupt People on the FBI, CIA, and Other Agencies Have Said a Lot of Negative Comments about President Trump over His Performance at the Summit in Helsinki but they Do Not Call on People Who've Done Really Treacherous Acts against the U.S., People like John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey, Michael Hayden, and more; House Intel Committee Chair Devin Nunes Said that Democrats are Using the Delaying Tactics in Every Way They Can to Try Get Hold of the House and Senate in the Upcoming Midterms; An MSNBC Reporter Asks Trump Supporters about Their View on the President after His Poor Performance with Putin, Only to Get Disappointed to Hear How His Supporters Say they Don't Give a Damn on What the World Says as They Still Support Him Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST July 18, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7482 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Sebastian Gorka, Gregg Jarrett, Monica Crowley Guests: Steve Scalise, Joe DiGenova, Devin Nunes Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right, Tucker. Great show and thank you. Welcome to HANNITY. All right. The American left, the mainstream media, they will stop at nothing to malign the presidency of Donald J. Trump. Night after night, these attacks on the president and everybody who supports him, they are vicious, they're absurd, and at this point, it's psychotic. And right here on HANNITY we've been onto this game all along. We've been calling out o for years. And what you've witnessed in the last 48 hours is the latest example of the left's anti-Trump echo chamber, propaganda, all in an attempt to hurt his presidency, delegitimize the election, and really undermine the vote of the American people. Now, in moments, we're going to expose all the political hacks who pretend to be so fair and unbiased, the so- called "journalists". We'll also show you also the media's best friends in the Democratic Party, they are playing politics with the safety and security of our country at the southern border. And the midterm elections are now fast approaching. The left, they have no plan to improve America. And, by the way, they are in full gear trying to discredit your vote, your agenda, your beliefs, and your economy. All right. Stay tuned, buckle up, it's time for tonight's very important breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. Tonight, we're going to start with a "Hannity" history lesson. Way back in 2015, when Donald Trump, remember, descended from the escalator at Trump Tower, he announced his candidacy for the presidency of the United States. These so-called "elites" in this country -- they were laughing in his face. They said it couldn't happen, please, please run. And, of course, Trump went on to prove them all wrong. And despite the media's best efforts to trash then- candidate Trump, laugh at his agenda, he energized the American people. He won the Republican primary, went on to resoundingly defeat Hillary Clinton in the general election. This wasn't their plan. This was not supposed to happen. And on the election night, you may remember, 2016, your corrupt mainstream media, America's holier-than-thou so-called "journalists" -- they had a collective depression and meltdown all on television. You might remember. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: America is crying tonight. I'm not sure how much of America, but a very, very significant portion. I mean, literally crying. This is a sadness. It is a mourning moment for those people, and it is a moment filled with fear, filled with fear. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Our country is about to face some serious crises. And so, buckle up. Your country needs you. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Pretty extraordinary thing to say. If you have a son in the Marine Corps and you don't trust the commander-in-chief. People in the military defend the constitution. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This was a white-lash. This was a white-lash against a changing country. It was a white- lash against a black president, in part. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. From that point on, it has totally gotten worse. They are hell-bent on discrediting this presidency, your vote. The media turned into nothing but an anti-Trump nonstop echo chamber. And for them, every issue of the day is a full-blown crisis. The smoking gun, a national embarrassment, they literally parrot each other in their talking points until the rhetoric reaches a fever pitch. Remember this freak out over the president's use of the word -- hole? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What was your reaction of the president calling African nations (EXPLETIVE DELETED) holes? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's not clear what he meant by (EXPLETIVE DELETED) hole countries. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you shocked or surprised by this? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not surprised. In one way, I'm proud. I am a proud (EXPLETIVE DELETED)-holer. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, we are not all created equal. At least not if you are born in, as the president put it, a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) hole country. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The word house instead of hole. As in (EXPLETIVE DELETED) countries, not (EXPLETIVE DELETED) countries. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I guess he is a (EXPLETIVE DELETED)-holer. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Fake news CNN, now known as a ssh-hole network, they have been so obsessed, we could've played that montage for a full hour or longer. And, of course, the media's echo chamber didn't stop there. They have been obsessed from day one, the day he came down the escalator, the so-called "news gatherers", widely speculating about and obsessing about the president's mental health. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: President Trump's fitness for office is the top story in the country. Reporters and some lawmakers are openly talking about the president's mental stability, his health, his competency. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One of the people closest to Donald Trump in the campaign saying he's got early stage of dementia. He repeats the same stories over and over again. His father had it, and it's getting worse, and not a single person who works for him doesn't know he has early signs of dementia. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can you assess the president's mental fitness for office? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The president appeared to slur his words while giving an address. Did you look into what the cause of that might've been at all? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you ruling out things like early onset Alzheimer's? Are you looking at dementia-like symptoms? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On what basis would you, and this is just a philosophical question, advise the cabinet, if the president is unable to discharge his duties? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: They move from crisis to crisis, hysteria, hysteria, hysteria. Then they move on to the next one. Then it became Stormy, Stormy, Stormy, all the time. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This could be the last nail in the coffin. Stormy Daniels is causing stormy weather. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Porn star Stormy Daniels claims President Trump broke the law, had her bullied. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Does Stormy Daniels have the president's number? It sure seems that way. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: President Trump might have met his match with Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How is Stormy weathering this? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stormy speaks! UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are hearing quite a bit from Stormy Daniels. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stormy, in her own words, isn't going anywhere. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stormy Daniels has a good lawyer. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Porn star Stormy Daniels was telling the truth. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stormy Daniels is on a tear. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Every second, every day, hysteria, crisis, crisis, hysteria. Just another way to trash the president and discredit we, smelly Walmart people that cling to our gods, guns, bibles, religion and, you know, we are all irredeemable deplorables. And, of course, their favorite topic, when all else fails, let's go back to Russia, Russia, Russia. Almost two years of this nonsense. It's like a moth drawn to a flame, they cannot help themselves. The past 48 hours is one more example. Take a look. All right. And always, the media bolsters this rhetoric by trotting out pro-Obama, pro-Hillary Clinton, former deep state officials to thrash Trump, all in an attempt to legitimize their hyperbole. That includes the disgraced fired FBI director, James Comey. Remember, he doesn't watch this show, or even really know who I am, he said that on his book tour. Well, we all know Jim Comey is a liar. He said this in an interview with ABC7 in New York's Bill Ritter. And then, by the way, he attacked me and Tucker just yesterday. But I thought he never watched. And yesterday he tweeted, quote: This Republican Congress has proven incapable of fulfilling the founders design that ambition must counteract ambition. Well, all who believe in this country's values must vote for Democrats this fall. Policy differences don't matter right now. History has its eyes on us. Yes, Jim, we've been watching you. In other words, Republicans won't turn their backs on the leader of their party, President Trump, so it's time to vote all of them out because Jim Comey doesn't want the investigation to continue. We're going to have a full montage of all these high-ranking former deep state officials trashing Trump later in the show. But why would he ever trust political hacks in the intel community that abuse their power? It's first important to call out what is a blatant double standard. Despite what you see and hear from this bubble media echo chamber, President Trump and his peace through strength Russia policy has been so incredibly tougher than that of Obama, who they worshiped and adored in the media. In an interview today, once again, the president reaffirming America's commitment to combat Russia's hostile actions. Watch this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEFF GLOR, CBS NEWS ANCHOR: You say you agree with U.S. intelligence agents that Russia meddled in the election in 2016. DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Yes, I've said that before, Jeff. I've said that numerous times before. And I would say that that is true, yes. GLOR: But you haven't condemned Putin, specifically. Do you hold him personally responsible? TRUMP: Well, I would, because he is in charge of the country, just like I consider myself to be responsible for things that happen in this country. So, certainly, as the leader of a country, you have to hold him responsible, yes. GLOR: What would you say to him? TRUMP: Very strong on the fact that we can't have meddling, we can't have any of that. Now, look, we are also living in a grown-up world, really a strong statement -- you know, President Obama supposedly made a strong statement, nobody heard it. What they did here is the statement that he made to Putin's very close friend, and that statement was not acceptable. Didn't get very much play relatively speaking, but that said, it was not acceptable. But I let him know we can't have this. We are not going to have it, and that's the way it's going to be. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Yes, the president is right. Vladimir Putin is a hostile actor. Russia is a hostile regime. What you saw, by the way, is something he has said over and over again, although your media is acting like this is the first time. It's not the first time that he talks about their interference, and their meddling. As a matter fact, he has said it over and over again. It's true, and facts matter. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: As far as hacking, I think it was Russia, but I think we also got hacked by other countries and other people. And I can say that, you know, when we lost 22 million names and everything else that was hacked recently, they didn't make a big deal out of that. That was something that was extraordinary, that was probably China. We have much hacking going on. Well, I think it was Russia and I think it could've been other people and other countries. It could've been a lot of people interfering. I think it was Russia, but I think it was probably other people and/or countries. It was Russia, and I think it was probably others, also. The Russians had no impact on our votes whatsoever. But, certainly, there was meddling and probably there was meddling from other countries and maybe other individuals. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You mean he said it all before? They never reported that. All right. Look at his actions, by the way. Look at his policies, in this particular case, in dealing with Russia. Just look at it. After taking office, President Trump authorized the lethal arms deal with Ukraine in order to deter Russia's aggressive actions in the region. Why didn't Obama do that? That's a move against the wishes of Vladimir. And compare that to Obama in 2009, he actually killed a plan that would have armed our Eastern European allies with missile defense systems. Could've prevented all of that. A move praised by Putin as correct and brave. No hysteria over Obama's relationship with Putin, I'll have more flexibility in my next term. First month in office, President Trump extended broad economic sanctions against Putin, against Russia. More recently, he issued new stinging sanctions against multiple Putin-linked Russian oligarchs and companies. Compare that to Obama's first year in office where they embarrassingly, you know, tried to reset Russian relationships with a big present and everything. It didn't work out. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: I wanted to present you with a little gift, which represents what President Obama and Vice President Biden and I have been saying, that is, we want to reset our relationship. So, we will do it together. (LAUGHTER) SERGEI LAVROV, RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTER: Thank you very much. CLINTON: You are very welcome. We worked hard to get the right Russia word. Did we get it? LAVROV: You got it wrong. CLINTON: I got it wrong. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: It looks like a nuclear firing button. Where was the media five- alarm fire over that embarrassing love fest that never worked out, by the way? And don't forget when Obama did literally nothing to counteract Putin's involvement in Syria. It was Donald Trump who launched air strikes against the Assad regime, authorized the counteract on Russian soldiers on the ground in Syria resulting in hundreds of Russian casualties. Obama drew a redline, then they crossed over it, and he did nothing. The media is hysterical over the president's, well, so-called friendly relationship with Putin. Compared to Obama's? OK. On last night's program, the great one, Mark Levin, put all this hysteria in great perspective. It's worth repeating. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARK LEVIN, RADIO HOST: In 1945, at the Yalta Conference, Franklin Roosevelt sold out half of Europe to Stalin. He repeatedly praised Stalin. In 1961, JFK met with Khrushchev. JFK told a friend of his that he was rolled over, that he came across weak, that it was pretty disastrous, his meeting with Khrushchev. In 1975, Gerald Ford in Helsinki with Brezhnev, 35 other countries, recognized the territorial sovereignty of the Soviet Union, which included the captive nations of Eastern Europe. In 1979, Jimmy Carter placed a big, wet kiss on Brezhnev's cheek in Vienna. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So, like we have been saying for months, since Donald Trump came down the escalator, since he said he is running for president, what we're seeing from the left and their allies in the media is nothing more than a huge, massive, blatant political tactic. Now, this is especially true as we now gear up for the 2018 midterms. I'm telling you, the Democratic Party -- they have no plan, no solutions to improve the country, to help the people of this country. Instead, their agenda is purely political. They just want their power back. They want their crumbs back, the tax cuts. They want to impeach Donald Trump, but don't say it. They want to keep Obamacare, keep your doctor, plan and pay less, that didn't work out. They don't want Judge Kavanaugh to be confirmed to the Supreme Court, and, of course, they want open borders. But their political tactics are all too blatant. No solutions. Recently, House Democrats even authorizing a bill to abolish ICE. They want to show how in favor of open borders they really are. Even top House Democrat, Keith Ellison, even claiming today that our borders are "an injustice." really? And the Democrat's new rising star in New York, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, even vowed to occupy ICE offices and borders everywhere. I'm not making this up. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ (D), NEW YORK CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE: I believe the moral character of the United States is at stake. So, for me, it wasn't a question of whether I should go down there. We have to have a rapid response, I think every day that we go on, especially a day when something that heinous happens, we have to occupy all of it. We need to occupy every airport, we need to occupy every border, we need to occupy every ICE office until those kids are back with their parents, period. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: And meanwhile, earlier, so during a House resolution determining congressional support for ICE, well, 133 Democrats went all-in Obama and just voted present. As you can see, Democrats are happy to play politics with your border security. They don't want their actions written down on paper as official record. They know they are wrong, they know it's politically at odds with the American people, but they want to play politics because this is all about them getting their power back at all costs. Now, without a doubt, 2018 is now the single most important midterm election in our lifetime. Democrats, the media, their allies in the deep state, they are going to get more hysterical, all in their continuing efforts to delegitimize the president, and your agenda, and your vote, and your support for the president. We know this game, it's too familiar, their tactics. We all know the truth. The United States is seeing the best GDP growth we've seen since before Obama. We now have historically low unemployment rates all across the board, 14 state records with women in the workforce, African-Americans, Hispanic Americans. Literally, the U.S. pulled out of the horrible Iranian deal that Obama got us in because of his weakness. Yes, he is the only president to promise Jerusalem will be the capital of Israel and keep it. He is leading with peace through strength all over the world. The left wants to go back to what? The old days of weakness? Appeasement? Thirteen million more Americans on food stamps? Eight million more in poverty. Really? We want to go back to doubling the debt. We want to go back to economic -- the only president to ever hit 3 percent GDP in his life? Are you kidding me? We now went from the lowest labor participation in history to the highest. I mean, with each passing day, this country is improving on all fronts. We know that the agenda is succeeding, with or without the support of these elites in the media. These corrupt, biased, abusively biased, hysterical reporters that are agenda-driven. This isn't news anymore. It's fake news. Here with reaction, FOX News contributor, investigative Sara Carter, the author of "Why We Fight," FOX News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka. You know, add to that, Sara, this is their playbook. They have their five agenda items, and to get there, they are going to do what they always do with the support of the media. Republicans are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic. They want dirty air and water. They want children to die. And they want to throw grandma over the cliff. So, it's all the same thing. Nothing is going to improve the lives of the American people. Here is my question, does the shrill, so-called "fake news," not so-called, it is fake news, so-called news, does it -- does it win the day? Do they have an ability to sway the American people with these stories that they gin up the way they do? SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I certainly think they expect the American public. They affect our discourse when they write these type of stories, when they produce these types of pieces that we know are false narratives, based on, you know, what the establishment wants out there. Sean, all you have to do is look at how James Comey, former FBI Director James Comey, Brennan, put Hayden in there, these are establishment RINOs as well as people on the left that are working contrary to the American people and the American agenda. Look at what Comey said today. He came out and said, well, if you don't vote Democrat, I mean, if you are an American, you've got to vote Democrat. What kind of person says this? The FBI director should be ashamed of himself. He should be ashamed that he ran the bureau culturally into the ground. That agents have suffered because of the way he handled things. Director Brennan did the same thing, calling President Trump treasonous. I mean, it's just false and on its face. But instead, Brennan is bordering sedition. So, these are problems -- HANNITY: These are true -- because I have sources telling me that Brennan was actually spreading the phony dossier. CARTER: I have been in contact and I wanted to let you know, I've been in contact with Brennan's people. I have spoken with them today. I was told that Brennan is standing by his word that he did not know anything about the content of the dossier until December, 2016. Now, he did hear about the dossier, according to people that I've spoken with, and I find it hard to believe that although reporters all over Washington, D.C. knew about this dossier, that the CIA director knew nothing about it. HANNITY: Yes, the CIA didn't. Not so sure. CARTER: So I have to stick with what I've been told. But that's -- HANNITY: I think we are going to find the CIA director that is so radical and political now, Dr. Gorka, that he was radical and political during the campaign, as well. That becomes a big problem for him, doesn't it? DR. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: I think Sara's point, Sean, is incredibly important. Never, never in the history of the FBI has a director been fired for cause, and then within a year, he is making public statements about who Americans should vote for in the next election. Never before, ever, since the CIA was created after World War II have we had a former CIA director make seditious statements in calling the president a traitor publicly. This is absolutely outrageous. These people should -- HANNITY: I think he is feeling the heat. Oh, I think he's up to his eyeballs in this deep state garbage. I think the media has been played by him and his radical views, voting communist, never left him. (CROSSTALK) GORKA: Yes, I mean, think of it, 1976, 19 -- you vote for the communist party in 1976? That's just 14 years after the Cuban missile crisis. That's the height of the Cold War. HANNITY: All right. Last word, Sara. Yes, Sara, last word. CARTER: Well, Sean, this is why it's so important that the oversight committees be allowed to continue conducting their investigation, that the Department of Justice turn over the documentation that was requested so that the American people actually know what happened here. This is extraordinarily dangerous to the republic and to our country and to the foundation our country was built on. We've got to know the truth. GORKA: The most important question, why did Crossfire Hurricane start? That's the most important question. Who started it? HANNITY: All right, guys. Good question. When we come back, Congressman Steve Scalise has very strong feelings. Also, Gregg Jarrett. And a lot more breaking news straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. On Monday, House Majority Whip Steve Scalise took to Twitter to defend President Trump. And Congressman Scalise wrote, President Donald Trump went into this meeting with Putin from a position of American strength to combat Russian aggression. But it's important to remember how Russia was allowed to get to this point. He then gave a timeline of all of Obama administration's failures with Russia, starting with a reset. He joins us now, the House majority whip, Louisiana Congressman Steve Scalise. Why don't you just go through this, because I didn't want to put it in my HANNITY history lesson because I thought you did a good job, but I did show Hillary with that silly reset button of hers. REP. STEVE SCALISE (R-LA), HOUSE MAJORITY WHIP: And don't forget the cackle. Sean, great to be back with you. Look, there were so many different things that Barack Obama did when he was president. You know, he mocked Mitt Romney in that 2012 debate saying, you know, the '80s want their foreign policy back when Romney said Russia is a big threat. The redline was probably one of those glaring points where he truly did go backwards in terms of strength, when he literally put that redline and said, Syria, you know, you've got to do these things, don't gas your own people, and, of course, after Syria gassed their own people, he sat back and let it go. When the Ukraine -- I mean, you're talking about good friends of ours, allies of America were being invaded, President Obama sat by and did nothing. And Ukrainians, by the way, were asking the Obama administration, not for boots on the ground, but just for weapons to defend themselves. And he turned his back on them. President Trump, by the way, in contrast, gave the Ukrainian missiles, gave them the ability to stand up to Russia. President Trump has stood up to Russia on a number of fronts. Obviously, that was one, expelling diplomats, President Trump increased sanctions, he worked with us in Congress to increase sanctions against Russia. So, there's a big contrast between President Obama just ignoring -- HANNITY: Well, it's just like the president said it many times, yes, Russia did it. Yes, they meddled. Yes, they interfered. It's sort of like, the left, if you're not backing up the Brinks truck and trying to bribe some kind of despot or dictator, if you're not making meaningless lines in the sand that you never have any intention of backing up, if you show weakness and if you appease, they like that. Donald Trump didn't give a dime. SCALISE: Keep in mind, Sean -- yes, keep in mind the meddling, the actual meddling in the election happened under President Obama's watch. HANNITY: Exactly. SCALISE: He was president. There is evidence that he knew something that was going on, he just didn't do anything because they thought Hillary was going to win. So, you look at what President Trump has done, he's acknowledged there was meddling. We, by the way, and Chairman Nunes and his committee have done a great job, you pointed out, but Devin Nunes and his committee showed there was meddling, but there was no collusion between either campaign, and the meddling didn't have anything to do to change the outcome of the election. We should still pursue it, and we are, but the meddling itself actually happened under Barack Obama's watch. HANNITY: All right. Congressman, glad we have a few strong Republicans there who are willing to actually tell truth and give a proper history. Thank you for being one of them. Here now for more reaction, the author of, yes, it's out Monday, "The Russian Hoax: Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump." It comes out Monday, Fox News Legal Analyst, Gregg Jarrett. You know, one of the things that we're watching is a lot of these people that are most critical, the Comey's, the Brennan's, and the, you know, all of these people, Clappers that are now paid, you know, in their case it all happened under their watch, didn't it? GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: It did. Absolutely. And you know, this notion that President Trump has been soft on Putin and Russia is belied by the facts. He has increased debilitating sanctions against Russia, and Putin fivefold in the short 18 months since he's taken office, far more than Obama did in eight years. He has targeted their energy industry, their defense industry, his inner circle, Putin's inner circle, frozen assets, close down diplomatic properties, and expelled numerous Russian diplomats. He is applying pressure-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But Gregg-- JARRETT -- at the right time against a military and strategic adversary, and at the same time, he sees the bigger picture. He's extending an olive branch to try to diffuse long-term tensions with an adversary that has nuclear weapons aimed at us. HANNITY: Clear Hillary Clinton, she committed felonies instead of Donald Trump, frame Donald Trump. That whole Russian phony dossier she paid for, foreign national, funneled money. Literally, the bulk of the FISA applications to spy on the Trump campaign. That's all Russian liars. JARRETT: Yes. HANNITY: That's all that she paid for. Why is -- how is it possible the media can feign such outrage here, and ignore the biggest abuse of power in an attempt to literally impact a presidential election, clearly against the will of the American people? JARRETT: Because the media were constant apologists for Hillary Clinton, and they hate Donald Trump. They are visceral scorn, an unabashed hatred is apparent for all to see every day. The great irony, as you point out, is that it was Hillary Clinton who was colluding with foreign nationals and paying money in a political campaign which is a crime, yet she is not investigated. Trump didn't do that, and yet, he is the subject of a dilating investigation to try to destroy his presidency. HANNITY: All right. The book is out Monday, Amazon.com, Hannity.com. Gregg Jarrett, great work. This will be the defining book on the whole issue. It will blow rightly lays it all out for the American people. Highly researched, footnoted. All right. Still to come, the great Joe DiGenova and Monica Crowley. And House intelligence committee chairman, Devin Nunes says the Democrats, the DOJ is delaying hoping the Democrats win, and then they won't have to tell us the truth. We will get to that straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. President Trump's reluctance to trust the quote, "intel community" becomes easier to understand when you do consider the bosses of our intel agencies. Not his intel, the ones before him. They've been out to destroy him since day one, and since they left, since before he got elected, and after he got elected. Watch what we mean. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAMES CLAPPER, FORMER UNITED STATES DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: He is aiding and abetting our arch adversary, and has failed, in my mind, to live up to his constitutional obligations and responsibilities. JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER UNITED STATES CIA DIRECTOR: What Mr. Trump did yesterday was to betray the men and women of the FBI, the CIA, NSA, and others. And to betray the American public. And that's why I use the terms that this is nothing short of treasonous because it is a betrayal of the nation. He is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When do we see a shadow government come out and say, we cannot side with the government whether it's the cabinet or the Senate. I think that's the biggest question. LEON PANETTA, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: This president basically coddled Mr. Putin. And it was clear that he was intimidated by that situation. Whether the Russians have something on this president or not, no one really knows. But, the way he behaves, there is a clear signal that the Russians have something on him. MICHAEL HAYDEN, FORMER CIA & NSA DIRECTOR: That's the scene where families were separated. Now look, I know we're not Nazi Germany, all right? But there is a commonality there, and a fear on my part. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: If that's not enough to make the point, remember when Senator Chuckie Schumer actually said, don't ever mess with the intel community. Like never mess with them. RACHEL MADDOW, HOST, MSNBC: Taking these shots this antagonism-- SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: Yes. MADDOW: -- this taunting to the intelligence community. SCHUMER: Let me tell you. If you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday from getting back at you. So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he is being really dumb to do this. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Here with reaction, former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Joe DiGenova, conservative columnist, Monica Crowley. You know, I told you, Joe, a while back, when you say bad cops, these were bad cops, because 99 percent of cops are good cops that do a lot of good, and that goes for the CIA and the intel community. Now I look at a guy like Brennan, it happened on his watch, I think he probably knew all about the dossier. His involvement in this is going to be very interesting. Do we really want to live in a country where the Senate leader on the Democratic side says you better not ever say anything bad about the intel community? Because they'll -- they'll get you. JOE DIGENOVA, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY, COLUMBIA: Sean, I want to talk about two people. We only have so much time. John Brennan and Leon Panetta. John Brennan is a traitor, and I'll tell you why. He is the real traitor. What he did and what he has had recently about the president of the United States is despicable. He is personally responsible for the leaking of unmasked information, he was responsible for the sharing of false information to U.S. intelligence sources to get FISA warrants. He is personally responsible for the sharing of false information with American intelligence agencies, and he, I challenge him to a debate at the national press club for one hour, two hours, three hours about his role in the entire pre-election. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: How about on this show for now, one hour one on one? DIGENOVA: And about Leon Panetta. Leon Panetta he should be ashamed of himself after what he did in Benghazi when he kissed Hillary Clinton's fanny, refused to allow forces to come to the rescue of people and now he says, he says that he thinks the Russians may have something on the president to compromise him? Shame on Leon Panetta, may he rot in hell. HANNITY: Wow. Monica? MONICA CROWLEY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: From what I'm hearing, Sean, we are still in the early days of the investigation into the internal domestic internal targeting of Donald Trump and his associates and the campaign. These are the early days, Sean. And what we may find out is that the root of all evil may have gone through James Comey, may have gone through James Clapper, may have gone through John Brennan, may have gone all the way up to Barack Obama, or all of the above. We don't know yet. But what we do know is that they were trying to inoculate these agencies like the FBI, the NSA, the CIA by comments like Chuck Schumer's saying, they're sacrosanct. You cannot -- you can't go after them. Well, we are not supposed to be able to go after them because they are supposed to be above politics and this kind of corruption-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: All right. Let me go back to Joe. CROWLEY: -- and we now know they weren't. HANNITY: Joe, this conspiracy -- you are right. How dare they-- (CROSSTALK) DIGENOVA: You bet. HANNITY: -- we just laid out all the evidence, how much tougher Trump has been on Russia than Obama. DIGENOVA: Right. Not even close. And you know what? Well, you know what? There's another guy, Michael Hayden. The guy who never put his big boy pants on ever when he was DCI. You talk about a guy who kowtowed to Congress, couldn't handle the pressure, he looked for any political port in a storm. But when it comes to the worst, it's Brennan. When you go back and you look at everything that happened in 2016 and 2017, especially during the transition between the election and the inauguration, at the center of this conspiracy is John Brennan. John Brennan is a thug. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But wait, let me ask you this. DIGENOVA: He is a liar, and he is a traitor. HANNITY: If they -- if they advance a phony conspiracy theory about-- DIGENOVA: You bet. HANNITY: -- about the president of the United States that has been tougher on Putin than Obama ever was. DIGENOVA: You bet. HANNITY: The damage, no, this is important that he has something on Trump, you are really onto something that's very profound. The damage that they are doing to this country by doing so, and they irresponsibly throw out reckless conspiracies-- DIGENOVA: Exactly. (CROSSTALK) CROWLEY: And you know what, Sean? DIGENOVA: Exactly, Sean. CROWLEY: I mean, I think those are their preemptive strikes. But I think there is something else going on. When you look at the documents delays, and all of the legal stonewalling, DOJ intelligence agencies, number one, they are trying to hide incriminating evidence. Right? Number two, they think they may very well win in November. Democrats might control the House, and therefore, they can permanently eliminate any evidence of their wrongdoing. And three, it may very well be that they are trying to run out the statute of limitations on the Clintons, on FBI wrongdoings, may be of wrongdoing on behalf of the intelligence agencies. DIGENOVA: You bet. CROWLEY: They are trying to run out the clock so we won't be able to go after them and prosecute them. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Absolutely. Devin Nunes-- (CROSSTALK) DIGENOVA: And you know who is going to help them do it? Rod Rosenstein. He is an evil man accompanied by an attorney general who is totally incompetent and asleep at the wheel. HANNITY: Wow. Powerful. Let's think about this. CIA agents, Schumer saying don't mess with them. They get you six days on Sunday. DIGENOVA: You bet. HANNITY: This is not the United States trying to influence the presidential election, favoring somebody who committed felonies, keeping her in the game, then turning their sites on the other candidate, then using a phony Russian dossier, none of this is right. And if we don't fix it, we are beyond Venezuela, this is now propaganda that would rival Pravda-- (CROSSTALK) CROWLEY: Most dangerous scandal in U.S. history, Sean. HANNITY: -- and the former Soviet Union. All right, guys. CROWLEY: Most dangerous. HANNITY: We'll have you both back. Important, important discussions we're having. When we come back, the House intel committee chairman, Devin Nunes says, yes, they are trying to run out the clock and hope the Democrats get elected. HANNITY: All right. The House intel commitee chairman, Devin Nunes, he blasted the Justice Department yesterday during an interview, claiming that some within the DOJ, they're hoping the Republicans will actually lose the House on the midterm elections. He also said that if there was evidence of the Russians were colluding with the Trump campaign in 2016, Congress would've been briefed on it at the time, which they were not. Now remember, it was Chairman Nunes back in 2014 he sounded the alarm about Russia's malicious intent to cause chaos around the world and yes, in our very own elections. Here now is the House intel committee chair, Devin Nunes. So with all this talk about meddling and interference it happened at least in '08, it happened in 2012, you warned the Obama administration very publicly in 2014, and now we're supposed to act surprised that it all happened, although, you know, it was under Barack Obama's watch, not Donald Trump. REP. DEVIN NUNES (R), CALIFORNIA: Yes, Sean. Look, I think I warned them not just in 2014, but very specifically in 2016 where I called it the largest intelligence errors since 9/11, our failure to understand Putin's plans and intentions. And remember, by that time, we have seen the Russians actively involved in many elections around the globe. They were actively trying to interfere in elections in Eastern Europe, and some of the former Soviet states. So this was nothing new at all, and what I am most upset about in this whole situation of many things, but when you go back to that time period is how they were able to ignore the warnings that we were sending from the House intelligence committee. And then lo and behold, after they lost the election, they first tried to blame fake news and when that didn't work, they switched into this whole concept of Russia. HANNITY: So this is a big point, too, is that if there was any collusion, certainly you would've known about it at the time. And if anything had come up between now and then, you would have seen that as you have seen almost everything. So the question is, why is the witch hunt going on? And how do you look at the Mueller indictments then of these 12 Russians that are the equivalent of our CIA operatives, they are never coming to America, there's never going to be a trial, Mueller, you know, indicted these bot companies thinking they would never respond, now he is asking the judge in that case if they could literally not turn over any documents, in other words, that there won't be any disclosure that doesn't accurate. (CROSSTALK) NUNES: And remember, and remember, so it's not just about the warnings that I gave into 2014, '15, and '16. It is also a fact that a year and a half ago, the House intelligence committee had more than what's in the Mueller indictment of the 12 Russian officers. OK? So we had more information than that. Now we put it in our report in March, it was in our report that was made public in April, it's heavily redacted, remember, by the Department of Justice and FBI. But we had all this information. And so, you know, the thing that I brought up, is I just find the timing of this to be very hard to believe. Right? HANNITY: yes. NUNES: You might give them the benefit of the doubt, but why does this always happen? Every time something happens on one side where we find out a new revelation about what appears to be real problems in the FBI and DOJ with this investigation, then all of a sudden, they drop an indictment. It happens time and time again. And this one is really bad. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: So this is what I want to ask you, do you think they are trying to literally, as you said, you believe the FBI and DOJ they're are obstructing in terms of doing what is their -- what your authority constitutionally is oversight, and they have been obstructing the entire way. And now there is talk about actually impeaching Rod Rosenstein, and there is talk about holding these people in contempt. And you say they're really doing this hoping that Dems take over Congress and that it all ends then? NUNES: It's the oldest trick in the book. So, many of the bureaucracies here in Washington know how to way out Congress. They know to try to plan meetings on a Friday when they know there are no votes, or on a Monday when there's not votes. They vote -- you know that's the times they want to get things. They wait, they know that Congress is going to l adjourn next week. And so, the more that they delay for no reason, we are waiting on many documents, as you know, we are getting very slow snail paste cooperation that is clearly designed to wait until next week when Congress adjourns. Now I have news for them. They are still going to have to come in and give the depositions, they may think they are not going to, but they are going to be coming in and to get depositions throughout the summer. And that is part of the 42 names that I sent to Chairman Gowdy and Chairman Goodlatte so I have every expectation that there will be many opportunities for these 42 individuals to come to Congress, even though they have tried to wait us out. I think they would love to see Republicans lose. And I say that, and I don't want -- I hate to say that, but I have to believe that the Department of Justice and FBI, the people at leadership, they are banking on a loss by the Republicans in the fall. Which is why people have to understand how important it is going to be to get out and vote in this election to ensure that members of Congress will return that are actively involved to ensure -- because of the Democrats get control, they are going to drop all of this investigation. They are not going to do anything on this investigation. HANNITY: Sure. They will cover up the whole -- the biggest, this is about literally trying to steal a presidential election. Those top it all. I hope you do hold them in contempt, and if it means impeachment, then that must be done. Otherwise, no congressional subpoena will ever have any teeth to it, ever. It will be the end of it. Mr. Chairman, thank you for being with us. When we come back, our video of the day you do not want to miss, straight ahead. HANNITY: All right. Following President Trump's summit with Vladimir Putin, conspiracy TV MSNBC, they spent a reporter to Wisconsin to interview Trump supporters about their thoughts on the meeting and the liberal outrage. I don't think this is what they expected though. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's a lot of backlash going on now especially when he said well, I said I did and I didn't. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A lot of people weren't happy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. But I'm totally in support of him. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And why? And why are you still supporting? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because he's an entrepreneur. He's a businessman, working-class person's presidents. He is trying to make this country great again. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you support the president? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you continue to support him despite this week? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not one bit worried about the rest of the world. They are not worried about us. So, you know, I'm not worried one bit about what the rest of the world thinks. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: You know what? They have one playbook. The left. Racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic. They want dirty air, water killed granny, kill the kids. And Trump is horrible. He's more horrible than yesterday and the day before. They've overreached. All right. We'll always be fair and balanced. We're not the destroy-trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. It's time. Ingraham taking over. Load-Date: July 19, 2018 End of Document Sacha Baron Cohen's New Show Draws Controversy; New Movie about Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Premier; House Republicans Hold Vote Supporting ICE; Facebook Apologizes to Diamond and Silk. Fox News Network INGRAHAM ANGLE 10:00 PM EST July 18, 2018 Wednesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 8317 words Byline: Laura Ingraham Guests: Raymond Arroyo, Karl Rove, Rachel Campos-Duffy, Juan Williams, Herman Cain Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Oh he's more horrible than yesterday and the day before. They've overreached. All right, we'll always be balanced, we're not to destroy Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled, it's time. Ingraham, take over. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: You know what they need Hannity? They need an ism song like racism, sexism, xenophobiaism. HANNITY: That's the whole playbook. Every election is the same same. INGRAHAM: Well but guess what Hannity the Bush's use those same things too protectionist, isolationist and they use that to describe a lot of Trump's polices too. So the establishment is striking back. They're gleeful about these polls. HANNITY: They're so desperate. Give me one policy and this is not a trick question, one thing that they are offering the American people to make the country better, safer more prosperous, one thing? INGRAHAM: The left is doing nothing. All they have is the resistance and you documented it clearly tonight. Sean you have no jetlag, I don't know how you do it. HANNITY: No, I feel good. INGRAHAM: Excellent, all right. Good evening from Washington, I'm Laura Ingraham, this is the Ingraham Angle. We do have a phenomenal show for you tonight. You're not going to want to miss one minute. President Trump fires back against his critics about his Russia meeting. We're going to analyse all aspects of the media meltdown straight ahead. Also special counsel Bob Mueller is making some curious immunity requests. Is this just a propaganda ploy? We'll break it down. Raymond Arroyo is here tonight with our weekly Seen and Unseen segment where a political comic is in big time hot water and a former president is attacking his own sex. Plus the Democrats true plan for the border. Their votes today tell a very sad tale, details ahead. But first, the Anatomy of a Freak Out, that's the focus of tonight's Angle. Ever since the president misspoke on Monday in Helsinki, the media have spun around like whirly dervishes, they're giddy with excitement. Excitement of course that's masked in feral outrage. Never has so much been made of so little. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Dan Coats came to me and some other and they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin, he just said it's not Russia. I will say this, I don't see any reason why it would be. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now those words set off a chain reaction of condemnation without context. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have been watching perhaps one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president at a summit in front of the Russian leader. Chilling that I've ever seen. JOHN KING, CNN ANCHOR: You should call this the surrender summit. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh so catchy. Former CIA director John Brennan tweeted, `Donald Trump's press conference performance in Helsinki rises to and exceeds the threshold of high crimes and misdemeanours. It was nothing short of treasonous' (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WOLFE BLITZER, CNN NEWS ANCHOR: John Brennan says treasonous. Are we taking at least from your perspective? I assume from your perspective impeachment? CHUCK HAGEL, FORMER SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: Well I'll let that stand as it is is to the responsibilities of the congress of the United States. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Don't you miss Chuck Hagel? By Monday afternoon there were preposterous calls for the CIA and National Intelligence directors to resign in protest. Not against the president's actions or substantive policies toward Russia, but resign over his comments at the press conference. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR: Should the director of national intelligence Dan Coats resign in protest? NICOLLE WALLACE, MSNBS HOST: How does Gina Haspel stay on the job? How does Dan Coats stay on the job? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: By Tuesday morning, the media freak out was evolving into totally unchartered territory. It was like the Bermuda triangle. People who peddle Trump hatred for a living, they make a good living out of it, they try to outdo each other jocking for the poll position in their denunciations and descriptions. It was, what's the word? Extraordinary. (BEGIN VIDO CLIP) JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC HOST: We all know that Vladimir Putin is holding something over Trump, we do not know it is but we know it must be something extraordinary. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would say actually the definition it meets is the first word of the impeachment article in the constitution which is treason, bribery and high crimes of misdemeanours. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We don't know whether what we're seeing is dementia, psychopathy, compromise but what we're seeing is extraordinary. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Do they all get together and pick, "This is the multisyllabic word we're going to use today, extraordinary" You know what's extraordinary? The high judging responses to what was essentially an error of communication. The president reiterated his support of his Intel community and he tried to clarify his comments on Tuesday. We then there was this from a cabinet meeting today which began with an unfortunate mini adlib. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is Russia still targeting the U.S. Mr President? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Thank you very much. There has been no president even as tough as I have been on Russia. I think President Putin knows that better than anybody, certainly a lot better than the media. He understands it and he's not happy about it and he should be happy about it because there has never been a president as tough on Russia as I have been. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK when he said no, that no you can hardly hear? That only threw kerosene on the media fires which in turn lit up today's press briefing. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you have any subscribers the president has not been very critical to Putin? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I only criticize Putin by name. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When he was recited on Monday though, why wasn't he critical of Vladimir Putin's actions? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why should this president have any credibility to Americans in what he said? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Don't you just love the media figures talking about someone else's credibility at the point? The president's off hand remarks were, let's face it, some self inflicted wounds. But the rabid media, Democrats, the media cons, the never Trumpers, they hope to turn that little nick into a mortal blow and now they're just making no sense at all. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SENATOR RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D) CONNECTICUT: We are in a 911 national emergency because our country is under attack. Issue a subpoena not only for the translator and the notes but also for the national security team. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If they don't drag the translator in, they have to find out the answer from the secretary of state. But they have to find the answers out for not only Ambassador McCall but what else was discussed in that meeting? MICHAEL BARNICLE, POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: We rewrite the constitution and have another president take over right now. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Oh my God, people actually get paid to say things like that, it is stunning. OK we're going to get onto rewriting the constitution part. Mounting an overthrow of a duly elected president, you kind of hear the rumblings of that there. The left has no record to run on. Certainly not in the midterms, what have they accomplished? Zero. They can't go to the voters and say, "This is our prescription for making your lives better. We're going to bring you to four percent economic growth. This is wat we're going to do hold China accountable on trade. This is what we're going to do to have a stronger border" They want to abolish I.C.E for goodness sake. So what they do is they seek to create another narrative that the president is somehow like secretly working behind closed doors to advance Russia's agenda and that he's at odds with his own intelligence chiefs. This is patently absurd and I think they know it is. Now granted the president has occasionally been unartful in the way he's explained his position. Sometimes his frustration with the Mueller investigation has gotten the better of him. But when you cut through all the theatrical displays of outrage? Trump in many ways is saying what he's always said, even if no one wants to hear him out. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRIS CILUZZA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I'll go along with Russia. It could have been China, it could have been a lot of different groups. I think it well, could have been Russia. But I think it could, well in the next screen you already know what it's going to have said, have be other countries. Donald Trump in his heart of hearts is not convinced that Russia meddled in the election. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Take a breath Chris that's not what he said historically or this week. The president is saying that Russia is responsible for meddling and that they are not alone. Now, I'm the first to call the president out when he hasn't unprecise in his language, and he hasn't. Communications are vital on a matter that's as important as this, especially with this Mueller cloud that continues to hang over his head. But saying that Russia is not the only foreign power seeking to temper with our election, cause havoc in our society is neither treasonous or nor erroneous, in fact it is correct. Just listen to the director of national security Dan Coats. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DAN COATS, DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL SECURITY: Everyday foreign actors, the worst offenders being Russia, China, Iran and North Korea. Every day they are penetrating our digital infrastructure and conducting a range of cyber intrusions and attacks against targets in the United States. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now you hear that? Russia is one of any foreign actors trying to disrupt things in the United States across the board, every day, incoming form these other countries. That does not rule out the presence of other foreign actors. But perhaps the most egregious and revealing all the lunatic get him in the rubber room reactions regarding Trump Russia once again comes from the former CIA chief John Brennan. The man, I'm sorry to say, I know it sounds uncharitable, is a complete embarrassment, spewing outrageous falsehoods while offering reckless advice. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARNICLE: Wouldn't it be a tendency for intelligence gatherers briefers now to withhold some vital intelligence to the president? JOHN BRENNAN FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: There very well might be. There might be out of concern. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: He went on to expand on that but yeah, out of concern that the White House president would run to Sergei Lavrov or Putin himself? Think about that. This is the guy who headed up the CIA, by the way same one I believe who signed off on the unmasking without a warrant. He's essentially urging current Intel officers who are giving basically tacit approval, to their concealing key national security information from the country's current commander in chief, shame on you sir. That is tantamount to a slow rolling coup. So we've gone from charges of treason within minutes, frankly, of what President Trump said in Helsinki, to calls for resignations to now former Intel chiefs encouraging traitorous acts against the current duly elected president of the United States. It is stunning. The next time you pundits and hosts want to see a disgraceful and extraordinary and treasonous moment, just pull up some of your TV appearances on the DVR and hit play. And that's the Angle. Joining me now for rreaction is Dan Bongino a former secret service agent and host of the Dan Bongino podcast and Juan Williams, co-host of FNCs the Five, great to have both of you on. Juan, look, the president I think had a couple of rough communication days but I say actions speak louder than words. And the media reaction, it reminds me of the roadrunner in Wily Coyote. Trump is the road and everybody they think, "OK I got the TNT now and we're going to get him" and then Trump just speeds away but your reaction. JUAN WILLIAMS, FOX NEWS HOST: Well I think the big hole in the Ingraham Angle tonight is the Republican response Laura, that you know, your fellow Republicans, people who are strong Trump supporters. Here I'm thinking of New Gingrich, I'm thinking of people in the congress who have been slow to offer any objection to President Trump have come out and said that what he did not objectionable and not of service to the United States and they're pundits are right. INGRAHAM: No, whoa whoa whoa, they didn't Juan, they did not say treasonous. Newt Gingrich tweeted out as did I that the president needed to clarify his remarks. I said it on Monday night with Matt Schlapp but that's fair criticism, it's not saying that you shouldn't brief him on matters of intelligence or imply that somehow he's back channelling information to the former Soviet Union. That is so irresponsible for them to say that. WILLIAMS: I didn't say treasonous. That's it, yes. No I think that they're asking legitimate questions about his actions. You say actions count more than words so we look at his actions and you look at the entirety of that presentation, not only the press conference but the earlier two hour meeting, we still don't know the details. The Russians say it was a great meeting. They apparently think there are military agreements that our own military doesn't know about. Laura that introduces questions as to, is this president working as an American to protect us the American people or doing something different? INGRAHAM: So you're basically agreeing with John Brennan then? WILLIAMS: No Brennan said don't tell him. He's our president and I respect that but I'm saying he has opened that door. Nobody else opened the door, he opened the door to these kinds of questions and these rebukes. INGRAHAM: Dan Bongino the idea that because Russia goes home, Lavrov and Putin go home and they make their progandistic push to their people? Big deal. I mean I keep saying this, I loved there in 1983, the propaganda flows freely in Russia. I don't take Putin at his word on pretty much anything, but the fact that he's saying, "Well this this was a good meeting" Big deal, who cares? That doesn't hurt us if he says that. DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Yeah and this is what they always do Laura. What bothers me about and Juan's comments particularly is you know Juan's talking about actions but Juan you're ignoring. And Juan, listen, you don't have to agree with these actions and neither does Laura. There a lot of Libertarians out there Laura who prefer a more interventionist approach. INGRAHAM: Well I do. BONGINO: What Juan's being a little, I think, naive about here is when you reasonably look at what Trump has done, he's not a politician OK. Forget the words for a minute, I'm not saying the words are irrelevant, I'm just saying when you look at what's actually happened, combating against the Nord Stream Two Pipeline which a Russian economic necessity. Laura personally sanctioning friends of Putin, Oleg Deripaska and Rusal. When you look at the attack on the mercenaries in Syria, the Russian mercenaries. Again, you don't have to agree with these actions, they are non interventionists on both sides who don't even agree with them. But suggesting that he's a Russian pawn while his military wipes out Russian mercs, sanctions billionaires who are his buddies and then cuts off a potential economic lifeline Juan, is completely unreasonable. Where are you getting this from? WILLIAMS: But then, wait a minute, in that serious situation that you described the Russians were attacking us, that's why we responded. BONGINO: Right. WILLIAMS: And what about Iran? And Iran's continued support for terrorism and for Assad in Syria, contrary to American interests? BONGINO: Juan did you just say Iran? Did you object when we delivered pallets full of cash and please don't tell me it was their money because neither President Jimmy Carter no no, this is not a distraction WILLIAMS: Oh my gosh. Juan you're skipping the conversation. BONGINO: No I'm not. WILLIAMS: I think you disagree and I disagree with you about the Iranian nuclear deal but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about Iranian interference in Syria contrary to American interests, that's all I'm saying. BONGINO: Yeah, no I get it Juan and I understand that but Juan we have not been a friend to the Iranians either. I don't understand what Syria, I'm missing what the point is. We've wiped out Russian mercenaries and we're combating the Iranians in Syria, what the point? INGRAHAM: Guys, the actions versus verbal missteps or miscues or adlibs or aside, it's legitimate to criticize the communication, push after Helsinki, I'm fine with that. But jumping to these other conclusions I think it takes it to another level. The New York Times is just reporting that Trump was handed documents two weeks before the inauguration indicating that Putin personally ordered the hack into the United States. It just literally dropped into the New York Times, we'll have to unpack all of that. But Juan look, this is where we are, the president gave an interview tonight to CBS News to Jeff Glor where he talked about and tried to, again clarify this point about the intelligence chiefs and who's responsible, let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEFFREY GLOR, CBS NEWS ANCHOR: You say you agree with U.S. intelligence that the Russians meddled in the election in 2016? TRUMP: Yeah and I've said that before and I've said that numerous times before and I would say that that is true, yeah. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Your reaction very quickly Juan. WILLIAMS: I think it's like a guy trying to clean up after the circus, it's futile. I mean Americans saw it wasn't just verbal missteps as you describe it. I think that the whole meeting with Putin and the fact that we still don't know is an indication that something is strange here and I think for all of us, for Dan for you for me, we've got wonder why is the president behaving in such a way as to introduce these questions? And as I said before to you Laura, it's not just Democrats, it's not just some crazed Liberal pundits, they're Republicans, your fellow Republicans that are raising these very legitimate questions based on his words and his actions. INGRAHAM: I think there a lot of Republicans who never really wanted Trump in the first place and a few others. But the majority of the Republicans who think this is the be all and end all story of the last five years are not people who generally agree with his more nationalist foreign policy or economic policy. But great conversations as always guys, thanks so much. Now, we've seen some rather interesting political alliances emerging these days with former president speaking out more than ever. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GEORGE W BUSH, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If the U.S. takes the lead, others tend to follow. BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Do you really want to say, "We're going to make everybody have a military" But we're not going to help anybody build their own future and lives. BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESDIENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You've got far right parties that often times are based not just on platforms of protectionism and closed borders, but also on barely hidden racial nationalism. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: OK are we seeing a new kind political paradigm being created in the age of Trump? Joining us now to anaylze this and the breaking news out of the New York Times is Karl Rove, former senior advisor to President George W. Bush. Karl it's great to have you on the show tonight. I think it's the first time on the Ingraham Angle so thanks so much for coming on. KARL ROVE, FORMER SENIOR ADVISOR TO GEORGE W BUSH: Thanks for having me. INGRAHAM: What about that? You had just in the last couple of weeks, or last week, you had Obama, Clinton and George W. Bush all, not directly referencing the president, but clearly they are not so clearly veiled references to his governing and the substance of his policies. Your reaction to that. ROVE: Well look President Clinton and President Bush 43 were speaking at a seminar in Little Rock for the presidential scholars. A program that they and the President 41 Bush, 41 Library and the LBJ library have. I don't see that that was anything other than responding to questions and talking about their views, on for example leadership. President Bush made the point that world depends on American leadership, "When America leads, the world tends to follow" President Obama's speech, I read it at night. It's a typical Obama performance, very long. There are parts of it that appear to be directed at President Trump but there's a bunch of it that I think, that's got to be put in the context of he's appearing in South Africa. He's been hosted by Nelson Mandela's widow. He's giving the Mandela Lecture and he is in the presence of the new president of South African who has come to office only after a huge conflict inside South Africa over a corrupt predecessor. Who was exactly what President Obama described in his speech as a strongman who demolished the institutions within South African and engaged in sort of crony capitalism and undermined a sense of democracy. Had an election but it was clearly phony and it was heralding, it's an unusual speech because at one point he talks about South Africa, the importance of markets. But there are points that clearly he was on a contrast to. INGRAHAM: Hold that thought you're going to stay with us, more on this breaking news out of the New York Times next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GLOR: But you haven't condemned Putin specifically. Do you hold him personally responsible? TRUMP: Well I would because he's in charge of the country just like I consider myself to be responsible for things that happen in this country. So certainly as the leader of a country you would have to hold him responsible, yes. GLOR: What you say to him? TRUMP: Very strong on the fact that we can't have meddling, we can't have any of that, I let him know that we can't have this, we're not going to have it and that's the way it's going to be. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Now that was President Trump earlier tonight hours before this report broke from the New York Times essentially saying that the president was told that Putin did personally call for the hacking into our elections. Karl Rove is back with us. He's joined by Richard Goodstein a Democratic Strategist and Policy Expert. Sol Wisenberg is the former deputy independent counsel during White Water. Carl I had to rudely interrupt you before we broke for a commercial. What's your reaction to the New York Times report? It frankly doesn't really surprise me because Brennan was pretty much onto this Russia behind the meddling six months earlier from what I could tell so it doesn't really surprise me that the president would be briefed on this. ROVE: Yeah look, it doesn't surprise me either. But frankly remember early in the administration I think the president had a line that I wish he had used on Monday, which is he said early in his term that of course he would like to know if anyone had meddled in an election, because he would want to make sure that I was stopped. And I wish that the president had that tone on Monday. But this latest report doesn't surprise me. What did surprise was the ability of the Mueller investigation and government's cyber forensics to be able to identify 12 specific actors. Imagine those guys sitting in their office in the GRU and going online and seeing their names and asking the question, "How could they tell it was us?" INGRAHAM: Yeah and Sol I wanted to ask you specifically about that indictment that dropped last Friday. One indictment, 12 other officers, what of that? For me I thought, why name them? Why not keep that under seal and see if one of them actually comes to the United States? Apparently some of them maybe have been to the United States, what's the theory behind that? SOL WISENBERG, FORMER DEPUTY INDEPENDENT COUNSEL, WHITE WATER: Well I don't know what the theory is but if you don't put them under seal, you know you're never going to get them over here. INGRAHAM: Right, they're never coming. WISENBERG: They're GRU officers and I think it meant that these people will never appear in a United States court. The part of the indictment was to buy Mueller some time and say, "Look, I'm really doing things and I'm doing important things" But it's really a speaking indictment. I don't doubt that he'll be able to prove that it's just he'll never be called on to prove it. INGRAHAM: An indictment, for our viewers just to be clear again. An indictment are the charges. You did not see the evidence, obviously they wouldn't put it out, it's very sensitive, but they're the charges against these individuals. People forget that a lot of people are indicted and they're not guilty, I mean Liberals used to believe that. I'm not saying that they're not guilty but people have to remember that if we're going to blame Trump for not having smart verbiage, we have to smart with our verbiage too. WISENBERG: Laura in every criminal case, state or federal, the judge the jury the indictment is not proof, the indictment is not evidence and then I saw on the other networks constantly, "Here we have the proof, here we have the evidence" Now look, if Mueller didn't think he had it, he's perpetrated a massive fraud and I don't think he has but you know Andy McCarthy made the comment that basically now all the Russians are presumed innocent because this has been put into an indictment. But the real point is this is a speaking indictment meant to buy time for Bob Mueller. INGRAHAM: So no American's named in it, no American actions referenced, nevertheless it ate up some of the news cycle and the president apparently Richard, approved the timing, said it was okay to hand down the indictment. I guess they checked with the White House and he basically said it was okay which kind of kills the narrative that Trump was like worried about the indictments but your reaction Richard. RICHARD GOODSTEIN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Can I react to this New York Times story. What's newsworthy about it is one of two things. Either Trump has no faith whatsoever in the intelligence community because if he does, just today there's another New York Times story saying, "Well I hope Putin's responsible in the sense that he's the head of the country just like people hold me responsible for what goes on here" No, if you were told two weeks before the indictment that Putin personally and directly was sort of overseeing the subversion of the U.S. democracy. That's not, "Oh well he runs the country" No that's very specific and Trump still can't acknowledge that, that's troublesome. INGRAHAM: Well that's what he said tonight on CBS news, that's what Donald Trump said tonight that Putin is responsible, "He's in charge of the country like I consider myself in charge of this country" Oh because it's personal, yeah. GOODSTEIN: Because he's in charge of the country, it's like saying managers are responsible for the team. INGRAHAM: This is what Karl Rove, I think with your experience in the Bush administration, they're playing, I hate the multilevel chess reference, but he does have other concerns other than just what's happening in the Mueller investigation, what the New York Times is going to publish. He just had this meeting with Putin, now I imagine and he referenced this today Karl, they were talking about Israel, Iran, Syria, nuclear non proliferation, getting back to some semblance of whatever a normal relationship with Russia is. That's does come into play and Obama referenced this Karl back in 2016, that insulting someone on the world stage, that's doesn't accomplish anything. And I don't recall George W. Bush insulting Putin whether in Crawford at the ranch or the Clintons when they when Hillary was meeting with Lavrov, you don't insult people even if you know they're trying to mess around with our systems. Which they always have been trying to mess around with our systems. ROVE: Well I agree with you I don't take homage and President Trump should not have been there for the purpose of slamming President Putin to his face. Nor am I worried about having a solitary meeting. President Bush, for example, met on a one-on-one -- literally drove the king of Saudi Arabia around his ranch in Crawford and discussed very important issues. I think that's overreach. I do think the president needed to project strength on Monday, and he didn't by his words. When he was asked that question, he could have answered her in a way that would have -- Putin would have known that he was upset about it and knew that the Russians were behind it. But it could have been straightforward and strong without being insulting. And the president didn't hit that note on Monday. He did better job in CBS tonight. Even that tone would've been fine on Monday. But there is no need for the president to go in and insult world leaders just for the sake of insulting world leaders, particularly if you are trying to find a way forward. There are important things that we need to do. We have got serious questions about the Russians and living up to their existing treaty agreements on the intermediate range missile treaty. We have a treaty with them, negotiated by President Bush, that comes up for renewal in 2021 on nuclear weapons. We have concerns about them in that regard. I hope the president brought up -- they are not helping us in North Korea. Lavrov, as you remember, shows up one week before the meeting in Singapore, he shows up in Pyongyang to basically tell the North Koreans we got your back against the Americans. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Don't worry, in Russian, it's going to be OK. But I think the president should give an address to the nation about this, and Sol, Richard, Karl, where he talks about our relationship with Russia, basically what they discussed at this meeting, and what could be improved, no Mueller reference, no Peter Strzok reference, none of that, but give an address to the nation. Fantastic panel, guys. Thank you so much. I know it was short tonight with all this breaking news. By the way, Sacha Baron Cohen could be in legal hot water. Oh, goody, speaking of legal problems. And will a movie about Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg do her legacy any justice? Raymond Arroyo brings that all to us in "Seen and Unseen." INGRAHAM: It's time now for our "Seen and Unseen" segment where we expose what's behind the big cultural stories of the day. He calls himself a comedian, Sacha Baron Cohen, and he's pranked everyone from Sarah Palin to Ted Koppel. But could his stunts now land him in legal trouble? For more we are joined by FOX News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series Raymond Arroyo. Raymond, Cohen's new show "Who is America?" premiered this weekend, but the real question is I want to know who the heck is watching? RAYMOND ARROYO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Not too many people. It premiered with only 327,000 total viewers. That's 0.1 in the demo. If you had those ratings you would probably go into retirement. INGRAHAM: At 3:00 a.m., I get those ratings. ARROYO: I don't think you get them at 3:00 a.m. I think you get more than that. But here is the point. Though Cohen was able to snooker people like Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin, and others, there was a Riverside, California, gun shop owner whom when Cohen walked in, his name was Norris Sweden, the gun shop owner, he saw through Sacha's charade early on. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just kept looking at the guy and I was like, you're Borat. As soon as I said that, his eyes just looked at me, and he did a b- turn right out the door. Once I knew it was Borat, we already know his game and his -- so we knew he was here to make a mockery, and make a mockery of what, gun owners, the gun business, gun shops. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: He did make a mockery of gun owners and gun activists. He got some of them to read a script, teaching children how to use firearms. Again, it's to embarrass people who own guns, who like guns. And Cohen, by the way, was dressed as a Hungarian immigrant there with a beard. He looked like a runaway from "Duck Dynasty." INGRAHAM: That's what I was just going to say, he looked like "Duck Dynasty." They make one of the good old boys, that the good old boys are dumb, and that good old boy saw right through that lame costume. And little fraidy cat, instead of standing there trying to do some original stand up, he should have turned it into a joke. But instead he ran out. What a little -- ARROYO: He's stolen valor. In fact, there were some billboards around L.A. about this. The problem with the stolen valor act of 2013, something applies to Cohen, because he impersonated a war veteran, it doesn't apply. It's about wearing the medal, a false medal. That's what's illegal. INGRAHAM: I think he is impersonating a comedian myself. But there is a new Ruth Bader Ginsburg biopic. ARROYO: You already have your tickets? INGRAHAM: I'm ready, ready, ready. It's called "On the Basis of Sex." Is that the joke? ARROYO: No, that's not it. INGRAHAM: It's coming under fire for potential inaccuracies. What are they? ARROYO: First of all, portraying Ruth Bader Ginsburg as an actress named Felicity Jones. I'll put up a picture of them side by side. So you can compare. You think this evokes Ruth Bader Ginsburg? I'll leave it to the audience. (LAUGHTER) ARROYO: The bigger problem -- it's the doily -- INGRAHAM: They are both beautiful in their own way. ARROYO: If Felicity Jones had the doily, it would be better. INGRAHAM: Ruth Bader Ginsburg is one of the nicest people. I spent New Year's Eve with her in 1986. ARROYO: This isn't walk down memory lane. I've got to get to a segment here. INGRAHAM: OK. ARROYO: OK, here's what happened. They played a trailer of this movie, they've released it, and legal scholars are going crazy. Watch. INGRAHAM: OK. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You think you can change the country, you should look to her generation. They are taking to the streets. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Protests are important. But changing the culture means nothing if the law doesn't change. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What did you see your name was? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ruth Bader Ginsburg. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The word "woman" does not appear even once in the U.S. constitution. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nor does the word "freedom," your honor. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: So the word "freedom" doesn't appear in the constitution? INGRAHAM: First amendment, isn't it? ARROYO: Yes, it's the first amendment. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: This screenwriter, who is also Ruth Bader Ginsburg's nephew, surprise, surprise, he says what she is pointing to is the constitution as it was originally adopted before the Bill of Rights, and that that is why she says "freedom" doesn't appear in the original. INGRAHAM: This is like wouldn't or would. They're making fun of Trump. ARROYO: All I can say is, when they cast my life story, I want someone as pretty as Felicity Jones to play -- INGRAHAM: Speaking of -- you are going to get to this next part. ARROYO: I'll do this. Speaking of gender politics and equality, Barack Obama in Johannesburg spoke out against his own sex today. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: Men have been getting on my nerves lately. (LAUGHTER) OBAMA: I just -- every day, I read the newspaper and I just think, brothers, what's wrong with you guys? What's wrong with us? We are violent, we are bullying. (END VIDEO CLIP) ARROYO: Violent and bullying. The idea -- INGRAHAM: Men are, like, this target -- ARROYO: This is toxic masculinity, the term that is so popular now. And the notion is that masculinity, robust masculinity, leads to bullying or assaults upon women. You know what leads to assaults upon women? Men who are not taught to be gentlemen. That is the problem. And all of these studies now coming out about the gender inequality in certain industries like film -- they did a study, film review critics, OK, 68 percent mail as opposed to 32 percent female. INGRAHAM: Who cares? ARROYO: They say this is why female flicks that have all-female cast members -- INGRAHAM: "Beaches," like "Beaches"? ARROYO: No, not that. "Ghostbusters," "Oceans 8," all the female reboots, they flop because they get bad reviews from all the men. INGRAHAM: They are bad movies. ARROYO: I looked at publishing, an industry I know a lot about. And 78 percent of the people in publishing are women. INGRAHAM: And then they have to equalize it. More men have to be hired. ARROYO: I've worked with a lot of these women. You know why they are there? Not because they are women. Because they are good. INGRAHAM: They're good. ARROYO: They are people that should be in these positions. We should not be worrying about gender equity. Some people are better in some professions than others. Leave it alone. INGRAHAM: I think I'm going to get one of those doilies around me -- every night. ARROYO: That would be very attractive. INGRAHAM: I never liked the doilies. Sandra Day O'Connor started it and it keeps going. ARROYO: I always want to grab a vase. INGRAHAM: It reminds me of that thing my grandmother always had on the back of the couch. Those were never cleaned. (LAUGHTER) INGRAHAM: Democrats are shamelessly exposing their new immigration and border security agenda, Raymond. We're going to tell everyone what is next. INGRAHAM: Today, the House passed a resolution to support the mission of the officers of ICE by a vote of 244- 35. If that number seems a little low to you, it's because only 18 Democrats supported the measure, 133 of those brave ones voted "present." Profiles in courage. The vote is hardly surprising once you listen to the rhetoric of the new generation of Democratic leaders. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP, KEITH ELLISON, (D) MINNESOTA: Corporations, certain people who get certain rights, can go back and forth across the border seeking out the lowest wages, but people, regular people, cannot go back and forth across the border seeking out the highest wages. So what it creates is an imbalance. It creates an injustice. ALEXANDRA OCASIO-CORTEZ, (D) NEW YORK CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE: We have to occupy all of it. We need to occupy every airport, we need to occupy every border, we need to occupy every ICE office until those kids are back with their parents, period. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Alexandria loves the word "occupy" and occupation when she's talking about the Palestinians and Israelis, occupations. Now it's occupy everything. To discuss the Democrats' real immigration agenda, what this vote tells us, is FOX News contributor Rachel Campos-Duffy, and co-host of "The Five," back by popular demand, Juan Williams rejoins us. Juan, thanks so much for coming back. We had a guest who unfortunately was pulled over by the police on the way to the studio. That is live TV at its finest. That is a kind of stuff that usually happens to me. Rachel, look, the Democrats, I think they have been boxed in a little bit by the Republicans, quite smartly. But there is a contingent that believes that it's time to go much bolder on the issue of amnesty and immigration and make it easier for people to apply for asylum. Once you cross the border with a family unit, a judge says you can't be deport people right away. So do the Democrats really lose anything with this vote? RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I don't know. But you talked about being boxed in. I'll tell you, they are being boxed in by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Republicans often say that a socialist is an honest Democrat. And she is young, she is bold, and she is politically naive enough to have told the truth. And for a while I think her ideas, abolishing ICE, open borders, socialism, she's openly socialist, all this stuff the Democrats are really excited because her election was so shocking. And they pulled their masks off for a minute. And Mark Pocan who represents Madison, Wisconsin, came up with a bill to abolish ICE, and everyone was really excited. And then they polled it and they realized that the American people weren't really with them, so they pulled the punch. So Republicans put this bill forward, they all still want to speak to that base that gets everyone excited, the party of Bernie, the party of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and so they voted "present" instead of for the bill, which is what they really believe, because they really believe in the same things that Alexandria does. INGRAHAM: Juan, is that the case? You only had 18 Democrats vote to support Immigration Customs Enforcement. You know this just as I do, they do so much great work on sex trafficking, human trafficking, they assist in the breaking up of these cartel, narcotics operations. But only 18 Democrats? JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST, "THE FIVE": Remember, we've only had ICE I think since after 9/11, so about 15 years of ICE. And in the view of people on the left, Laura, ICE is implicated in the separation of children from parents, and not only that, raiding communities, business, making people extremely nervous about their status here, and breaking up families. INGRAHAM: Then reform it, then reform ICE. Don't abolish ICE. WILLIAMS: But the political maneuver here was that the Democrats, and this is the box you were talking about -- the Democrats initially said let's vote to abolish ICE. Then the Republicans pulled the bill and came back with his later effort, which is let's vote in support of ICE. So both sides are playing big politics here. INGRAHAM: Let's listen -- hold on one second, Rachel. I want you guys to react to what some of the Democrats today were saying about this ICE issue, immigration enforcement in general. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm voting present on this resolution because it is a sham and a distraction. It's shameless and it's inappropriate. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What we have today is a shameless, spineless group of Republican congressional enablers. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You take your marching orders from Laura Ingraham and Tucker Carlson quicker than the president takes his marching orders from the Kremlin. (END VIDEO CLIP) WILLIAMS: You are powerful, Laura Ingraham. (LAUGHTER) CAMPOS-DUFFY: I have to jump in there, Laura. INGRAHAM: I don't think I've even talked about this vote. I don't think I've ever talked about this vote on the show. I've talked about ICE in general but not about the vote. We've been covering other issues. But Rachel, go ahead. I just have to jump in because there's all this talk about Russian influence going on. But if you really think about it, the real takeover of the Marxists, the socialists, the old Soviet Union, is on the Democratic Party and on American universities. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a product of a Marxist, socialist, anti-American ideology that is permeating, and has for several decades now, permeated American higher education and out going into high schools and lower. So that is a real concern I have with Russian influence. It's on the Democrat Party and on our education system. INGRAHAM: Juan, final word from you. Ocasio-Cortez did denounce capitalism, she uses the lingo of the far left and Marxists, the kind of stuff you hear at Thursday night seminars at a university. WILLIAMS: I think people -- CAMPOS-DUFFY: She is the future of your party. WILLIAMS: I think people on the right are beating her up, but she's 28 years old. I don't think she's very politically sophisticated. But guess what. When it comes to things like health care, education, when it comes to making sure that people have a living wage, most Americans say yes to these things. INGRAHAM: She wants it all to be free. WILLIAMS: People don't want families to be separated by ICE. CAMPOS-DUFFY: Most Americans believe in the rule of law and if you want to reform ICE, you vote for it. You don't occupy, you don't resist. INGRAHAM: I'm giving two thumbs up to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She needs to just keep going, keep evolving, keep changing. CAMPOS-DUFFY: She's a true scholar. INGRAHAM: Exactly. Facebook finally apologizing to Diamond and Silk but the social media giant is facing more questions over censorship. Herman Cain will explain. Stay there. INGRAHAM: Earlier this year, pro-Trump social media stars Diamond and Silk publicly accused Facebook of censoring their content. They came on the show to tell the story. Some didn't believe them. But just yesterday on Capitol Hill a Facebook exec issued a public apology to the dynamic duo. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MONIKA BICKERT, FACEBOOK GLOBAL POLICY MANAGEMENT HEAD: I do want to acknowledge a videobloggers known as Diamond and Silk. We badly mishandled our communications with them, and since then we have worked hard to improve our relationship. We appreciate the perspective that they add to our platform. (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: That was good. Joining me now to discuss that and other charges of censorship against Facebook is former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain, a FOX News contributor. Herman, I think you were on that week when this Diamond and Silk issue rose to prominence, and they were being dismissed by the left, like, oh, please. People were saying they were exaggerating to get publicity. And actually that was a nice moment from Facebook. They said we didn't handle this right. They should get some apologies from other people I think. HERMAN CAIN, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Laura, they admitted, Facebook did, that they didn't handle it right. And then they went back and said that they corrected it. I talked with Diamond and Silk personally last week and they are still getting the runaround. You see, the people that are appearing before Congress are professional spinsters. That's what is happening. They will say one thing, but what is actually happening does not match. And I know from personal experience that a lot of the censoring is happening. My website, other people that I have talked to, their websites are basically experiencing it. And because of this algorithm that mysteriously they have developed that nobody knows what it is, it is doing that censoring and they are in denial that they are in fact trying to censor conservative content. INGRAHAM: Darrell Issa raised this issue about the social media giants and what the implications could be of the size and scope and how big they are. Let's watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. DARRELL ISSA, (R) CALIFORNIA: Aren't you absorbing the responsibility, and can't and shouldn't we hold you responsible at least to the level of care that newspapers, ever so poorly, are held to? (END VIDEO CLIP) INGRAHAM: Herman, here's the problem is that we have companies now that have earnings that are a multiple of many sizable countries. They have an enormous amount of power. And when you're talking about an information flow, Facebook is neither -- it shouldn't be a censor, shouldn't be blocking certain views. And they also can control everything on their platform. Now they have just come out with something, we were reading about it tonight, Facebook to remove misinformation that leads to violence. I hope that is never going to be used to target conservative speech, or liberal speech for that matter. But once you start getting into that realm of I'm going to determine content, then I think that you are opening the door to real problems. CAIN: If it was about -- INGRAHAM: ISIS or something. CAIN: Yes, associated with ISIS or violence, that is one thing. But otherwise, it is like asking a fox to guard a hen house. That is almost laughable. All of the people within Facebook and all of these other big organizations that have the social media platforms, they simply have a culture of not wanting to basically pass on conservative content. I don't believe that we will ever be able to accept their judgment in terms of what they consider to be hate speech, negative speech, et cetera. I happen to believe that in individuals are going to have to take charge of what they do with that information. The fox guarding the hen house is not going to work. And I don't care what they say to Congress, I don't believe that it is the true story as to what really happening. Censoring is in fact happening. I know it for a fact, and a lot of other people that I have talked to also know it for a fact. INGRAHAM: Herman, it's so funny, everyone is bean counting on gender or race or ethnicity or religion. It would be nice to know how many conservatives work at Facebook. It would be nice to have some balance there across the ideological spectrum. Maybe it would get them more fairness. We really appreciate it. Thanks so much, Herman. When we return, we'll remember a true hero. Come back for that. INGRAHAM: Before we go, we want to take a moment to honor Secret Service agent Noel Remagen. The 42-year- old died tragically after suffering a stroke during President Trump's trip to the U.K. His body was returned to the United States today and his casket met by loved ones and colleagues along with the president and the first lady. Secret Service agents have one of the most restful and oftentimes thankless jobs out there. They quietly, heroically put themselves in harm's way to protect our nation's leaders. A Gofundme page for Agent Remagen's family has been created and has already raised more than $150,000. He has two small children. We encourage everyone to check it out. And may special agent Noel Remagen rest in peace. Shannon Bream is up next with another fantastic show. Another slow news night, Shannon. I know you will have just a little bit to talk about. But take it away. Can't wait to watch. SHANNON BREAM, FOX NEWS HOST: We do. And thank you for honoring that hero, a true hero, Laura. Thank you very much. INGRAHAM: Thanks, Shannon. BREAM: We begin with a FOX News alert. An American wanted by the Russian government. Load-Date: July 19, 2018 End of Document Explosive Fallout from Trump-Putin Summit; Media Ramps Up Vicious Attacks on Trump; John Brennan's Knowledge about the Russia Investigation May Come Out Quite Devastating to Him According to Reports; Mark Levin Taking a Swipe on the Media for Their Unlimited Insane Criticism on President Trump Especially after His Summit with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki; Democrats are Taking Every Little Piece of Opportunity to Undermine President Trump and His Administration Because They Have Nothing to Run on this Coming Midterm Elections Fox News Network FOX HANNITY 9:00 PM EST July 17, 2018 Tuesday Copyright 2018 Fox News Network LLC All Rights Reserved Section: NEWS; Domestic Length: 7347 words Byline: Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro, Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, Sebastian Gorka, Mark Levin Guests: Dan Bongino Body SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Hey, Tucker. Great to see you in Helsinki. All right. Welcome to HANNITY. All right. What we're going to cover this hour is so, so vitally important because you have just witnessed the single worst 24 hours in the history of your mainstream media. And according to the abusively biased press, well, the sky is literally falling. The world as you know it is now over, and the president that you the American people duly elected is a traitor, in the pocket of Vladimir Putin and Russia. If all this hysteria seems patently absurd to you -- well, that's because it is. Journalism, as I declared on this program, has been dead and buried since 2007. And in moments, we are going to show you one of the absolute worst examples you can't even begin to imagine. Plus, we'll point out the left's blatant double standard as we compare and contrast and show you how Obama's weak and feckless foreign policy seriously hurt this country's diplomatic efforts abroad. The president is cleaning up his mess. And we'll discuss how Robert Mueller's political witch hunt is playing a huge role in all of this. And later, we also have brand-new developments surrounding the Trump-hating FBI lovebirds, Strzok and Page. Now, tonight, despite massive amount of predictable hysteria coming from those who want this president to fail -- rest assured, let not your heart be troubled, America's policy is sound, our republic is strong, the sun will continue to rise day after day on the greatest country god gave man. Sit tight, buckle up. We are back in New York for tonight's -- well, really important breaking news opening monologue. (MUSIC) HANNITY: All right. As we go through tonight's opening monologue, I want you to keep some very important questions in your mind. First, think about this, what is worse? A hostile regime that we know was hostile run by a bad actor trying to create chaos in our elections as it has many times in the past, or top officials in the Federal Bureau of Investigation rigging an investigation to advance their favorite candidate that they should have indicted? What about the Democratic Party rigging their own party's primary to favor Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders? What's worse? Or is it worse that the Democratic Party bought and paid for Russian lies, of all things, to propagandize you, the American electorate, the American people, to lie outright to you, the American people, about an opposing candidate rather than win on the important issues that will impact the lives of the American people? Or is it worse that the Democrats, the DNC, Hillary Clinton, that they actually bought and paid for what turned out to be Russian lies presented as a bulk of information to secure a FISA warrant on an American citizen associated with an opposition party in a presidential election year, so they could spy on that party? And a warrant based on Russian paid for lies? Or is it worse the Democratic party bought and paid for the Russian lies that were never verified, and yet, were regurgitated by the self-righteous, sanctimonious, delusional media in this country that absolves itself as something they are not, as they claim to be unbiased and fair when they are nothing but the cheerleaders and crusaders for all things that only matter to the Democratic Party and liberal causes? And ask yourself, what's the worst thing that happened in Helsinki yesterday? That the president began a conversation with the second largest nuclear power in the world about, let's see, nuclear about proliferation, radical Islamic terrorism, innocent people slaughtered daily in Syria, the ongoing civil war, Iranian aggression. Oh, and by the way, where is the DNC server? Where is that server that the FBI didn't look at? Where are those 33,000 deleted emails on yoga, wedding, a funeral? Now, the media, you know, they wanted what? They wanted Obama-like promises to show more flexibility from Trump to Putin? And, of course, President Trump has long stated that good international relationships with our friends and geopolitical foes is a very good thing for everybody. Simple truth. And this is especially true when nuclear weapons are in play. And, unfortunately, prior to yesterday's summit, U.S.-Russian relations -- they were incredibly strained. And while President Trump trying to ease these tensions and carve out some kind of working diplomatic channel with Vladimir Putin -- well, your mainstream media, they were out for blood even before the president arrived. And if you thought the rhetoric and the vitriol coming from America's abusively biased press was bad, well, tonight it has become so much worse. We have Holocaust comparisons, Pearl Harbor references, calls for revolution in this country and much more. You don't believe me? We have the tape. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFEID FEMALE: If the president did it today because he hasn't some reason to serve that other country, rather than our own, then -- well, a lot that has previously been inexplicable is now explicable. And that's the worst- case scenario. UNIDENTIFEID FEMALE: It's just as serious to me as the Cuban missile crisis in terms of an attack or the 9/11 attack. His performance today will live in infamy as much as the Pearl Harbor attack or Kristallnacht. UNIDENTIFEID MALE: When do we see a shadow government come out and say we cannot side with the government, whether it's the cabinet or the Senate? I think that's the big question. UNIDENTIFEID FEMALE: You stood next to that man and you said it and gave the middle finger to America. UNIDENTIFEID MALE: We now have to figure out how to deal with the president of the United States who wittingly or unwittingly has been compromised. What we saw yesterday was collusion witting or unwitting, and the presidents words and attitudes towards Putin. UNIDENTIFEID MALE: The president looked like a weak, dumpy stooge to a KGB spy. He had a chance to show loyalty to men and women in uniform of America's military and intel community and instead he betrayed them. UNIDENTIFEID FEMALE: Somebody needs to make it clear to President Trump that his behavior and that press conference was un-American, outrageous, ridiculous, stupid. UNIDENTIFEID MALE: You had a one-word reaction to what you saw yesterday, treason. UNIDENTIFEID MALE: Treason, yes. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right, 9/11, Pearl Harbor. You know, I'm normally kind of immune to the media's daily dose of feigned moral outrage but this is sick and it's now pathological. Really sick. Now, this is not news. These people are not journalists. These are not news channels. What you just saw is nothing but left wing propaganda misinformation, it's just that plain, obvious and simple. And naturally, you have former communist turned CIA director, turned MSNBC conspiracy theorist John Brennan also chiming in with more propaganda of his own. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHN BRENNAN, EX-CIA CHIEF: I think there's a big question, first of all, in terms of those who are on Mr. Trump's national security team, whether they can continue to serve in good conscience an individual who basically betrayed his nation. What Mr. Trump did yesterday was to betray the women and men of the FBI, the CIA, NSA, and others and to betray the American public. And that's why I use the term of this is nothing short of treasonous, because it is the betrayal of the nation. He is giving aid and comfort to the enemy, and it needs to stop and Mr. Trump needs to understand that there are going to be consequences for him, too (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: I can't wait to get to all of Brennan's nefarious activities, because it's all going to come out. And, meanwhile, Brennan's former deep state partner in crime James Comey tweeted out, quote, this was a day an American president stood on foreign soil next to a murderous lying thug and refused to back his own country, patriots need to stand up and reject the behavior of this president. Jim, we reject your behavior. Your behavior, your abuse of power that rightly got you fired. So, there you have it. You have two indignant anti-Trump former bureaucrats chastising the president, all while they knew about Russia's attempts to meddle in our elections. By the way, it happened on their watch. They did nothing to sound the alarm, all because they thought their chosen candidate -- that's right, Jim helped Hillary, remember? They thought she was going to win. We'll have more on that in a moment. But, first, let's break down one key issue and that is Comey, Brennan, the media, they're losing it, absolutely lost their minds. The topic of Russian-sponsored election hacking, well, today, President Trump clarified his remarks from the summit. He made it perfectly clear that he trusts our intel agencies, not the ones that worked before, and their reports on Russian meddling. And, by the way, I have the proof. I will show you in a second. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I have full faith and support for America's great intelligence agencies. Always have. And I have felt very strongly that, while Russia's actions had no impact at all on the outcome of the election, let me be totally clear in saying that -- and I've said this many times, I accept our intelligence communities' conclusion that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place. Could be other people also. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, in case the left forgot, what you just saw from President Trump is a position that he is clearly articulated over and over and over and over and over again. And if your media had any honesty in them, they would remind you, they would do their job but as usual, we will do their job for them. So, here is the president having said it this many times and more, take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: As far as hacking, I think it was Russia, but I think we also get hacked by other countries and other people. And I can say when we lost 22 million names and everything else that was hacked recently, they didn't make a big deal out of that, that was something that was extraordinary, that was probably China. We have much hacking going on. Well, I think it was Russia and I think it could have been other people in other countries. It could have been a lot of people interfered. I think it was Russia but I think it was probably other people and/or countries. It was Russia and I think it was probably others also. The Russians had no impact on our votes whatsoever. But, certainly, there was meddling and probably there was meddling from other countries and maybe other individuals. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: So, the media didn't believe him but he said it over and over again. We all know the Russians have been meddling in our elections. We know that Russia is a hostile regime. We all know that the Putin is a bad actor. And, today, now that Trump is president, all of a sudden, the left seems to care. Let's slow down for a moment and let's discuss this blatant hypocrisy, because in 2008, there was Russian hacking into the McCain campaign and the Obama campaign but at the time, it garnered very little attention. And in 2012, as President Obama is gearing up for his big reelection bid, he was overheard on a hot mic telling then-Russian President Medvedev that he'd have more, more flexibility, don't tell the American people. We'll have more flexibility after the election. It sounds like collusion. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT: This is my last election. And after my election, I have more flexibility. DMITRY MEDVEDEV, RUSSIAN PRIME MINISTER: I understand. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Now, of course, following that incident, there was no outrage from the left in this country, no hysteria, virtually no one in the mainstream media accused Obama of being Vladimir Putin's puppet. Anyway, months later during a presidential debate, Obama ridiculed Mitt Romney's warning about the Russia threat. Romney was right. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: Governor Romney, I'm glad that you recognize that al Qaeda is a threat because a few months ago, when you are asked what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America you said Russia. Not al Qaeda. You said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War has been over for 20 years. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: No. Of course, he thought global warming was the big geopolitical threat. And again, the mainstream media, they barely yawn. Remember in 2014, House Intel Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, he sounded the alarm about Russia's malicious intentions to cause chaos around the world and in the elections here in America? Obama warned by our own intel services about Russian meddling. He did not think I'm a 16, there is Obama came eight years of weakness, telling Donald Trump to quit whining, that the U.S. election, no serious person thought it could be possibly rigged in any way. Stop whining. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: There is no serious person out there that would suggest somehow that you could even -- you could even rig America's elections in part because they are so decentralized and the numbers of the votes involved. There is no evidence that has happened in the past or that there are instances in which that will happen this time. And so, I'd advise Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: OK. It did happen in the past and it did happen in spite of him saying it couldn't happen. Now, by the way, Obama knew there was Russian meddling and he did nothing and he told us it couldn't happen, and then he dropped the ball. And the media, they didn't hold him accountable. And following the election in 2016, President Obama even stated publicly that shaming Putin publicly would not be an effective tactic, which now the media thinks is necessary or you're not a patriot. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: I should point out, part of why the Russians have been effective on this is because they don't go around announcing what they're doing. It's not like Putin is going around the world publicly saying, look what we did, wasn't that clever? He denies it. So, the idea that somehow public shaming is going to be effective I think doesn't read the thought process in Russia very well. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Of course, he was the anointed one and they media for eight years kissed his -- well, you know. Where was the media hysteria over that? Why now? Why President Trump? Of course, the Obama administration's policy was much worse than its rhetoric. Obama did nothing to counter Vladimir Putin's aggression and his actions in Crimea, Ukraine. Obama did nothing when Russia dropped -- literally, showed up on Assad and started helping that dictator butcher, what, hundreds of thousands of Syrian men, women, and children. That happened on Obama's watch. He did nothing as Russia worked with Iran to destabilize the entire Middle East. Instead, Obama signed off on the insane, horrific, Iranian nuclear deal, sending cargo planes with $150 billion in cash and other currencies to the mullahs in Iran. By the way, while they were chanting "death to America, death to Israel," burning our flag, the Israeli flag, funding terrorism around the world and all of this meddling, all of this interference was on Obama, Clapper, Brennan, and Comey's watch. Not Donald Trump's. He's cleaning up their mess. And according to reports, in order to secure the Iranian deal, Obama even look the other way as the terrorist group Hezbollah funded their terrorist activities through drug trafficking deals in the U.S. And despite all of this, no outrage from the media in this country. In fact, they were cheering for Obama every single step of the way. But now, the media is desperate. They didn't think Trump would win the primary, they didn't think he would win the general election. They thought collusion would get him and Robert Mueller would nail him but that's not working. So, now, their conspiracy theories have gone on steroids and human growth hormone. Meanwhile, in this very important time, we all know there was Russia conclusion in the 2016 presidential election. We know about Putin, we know about Russia. Now, by the way, it surrounds Hillary Clinton in the 2016 campaign, not Donald Trump. Hillary paid a foreign spy funneled money through a law firm, a foreign spy to put together unverified, what turned out to be Russian lies, Russian propaganda about Donald Trump, disseminated that material now known as the dossier, throughout the federal government, throughout Obama's Justice Department, into the FBI, the U.S. senate, and used by the Obama administration to garner FISA warrants on a Trump campaign associate so they could spy on that campaign in the middle of a presidential election. By the way, there's the real story of Russia collusion. That's what the media will not report, the biggest abuse of power corruption scandal in our history. And the press is also refusing to cover the ongoing deep state scandal surrounding -- look at this -- Lisa Page and Peter Strzok. Now, the bias of high ranking FBI employees, they are the very center of the 2016 effort to literally clear their chosen candidate, Hillary Clinton, of all charges, all felonies she committed, all obstructions she is guilty of, while investigating a Russia witch hunt to take down Donald Trump. During our interview last night, here's what President Trump had to say about the corrupt lovebirds Strzok and Page. Take a look. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: You have to find out who did Peter Strzok report to, because it was Comey, it was McCabe, but it was also probably Obama. If you think Obama didn't know what was going on -- when you watched, and I said it today with President Putin. When you watch Peter Strzok's performance, the lover of Lisa Page, when you watch that performance, the FBI -- I'll tell you, I know so many people in the FBI, these are incredible people. What they are going through watching this guy, a total phony, how about, "we'll stop it," or something to that effect? (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: All right. Joining us now, author of the brand new book, it's just out and it's called "Liars, Leakers, and Liberals: The Case Against the Anti-Trump Conspiracy", Judge Jeanine Pirro. You know, this is the thing. When you take your time and you actually lay out real information and facts, for example, how many times did Donald Trump say, yes, Russia was guilty of meddling in our elections? And they said today liar, he's a liar. But he said it so many times, they don't care about the truth. This is now hurting the country with this one-sided agenda that the media obviously has that is anti-Trump. JEANINE PIRRO, AUTHOR, "LIARS, LEAKERS AND LIBERALS": You know, Sean, I must tell you, that's one of the reasons I wrote the book "Liars, Leakers, and Liberals." These are people these are people who lie, they leak, and they are focused on taking down Donald Trump as a president of the United States. But the American people instinctively understood that we needed this man at just this time. And everything you laid out tonight in your monologue is accurate. All of it is in my book, it's almost as though I knew what was going to happen. But can you imagine, Sean, if Donald Trump offered a reset button to Putin what they would do, or if he was caught in an off-mic moment with Medvedev, the Russian prime minister? But instead what Donald Trump has done is he's given $90 billion of sales of arms into Ukraine, mass sanctions against the annexation of Crimea and yet the left is focused totally on taking him down. They are the criminals. They are the ones who decided that justice would not be blind, that justice would go against Donald Trump and the pond scum in the swamp from Brennan to Clapper to Comey to Strzok, all came together to use our justice system to go after a politician duly elected by the people. Normally, it's the politicians who go after people in justice. No, this is just the opposite, where people who are standing up for the Department of Justice and the FBI are working to take down the president. HANNITY: You know, at this point, I just think the media is so hostile and the problem for them now is they dug themselves such a big hole and none of it's come true. The apocalypse isn't happening, the economy is turning around. I think you can't look at any of this if you don't see it through the prism of 2018. They see their power slipping away. And you're right. I mean, the president did arm Ukraine. The president, you know, did have NATO exercises right off the border. The president, you know, literally did put multiple sanctions against Vladimir Putin. The president's cleaning up Brennan, Clapper, Obama, Comey, and Clinton's mess here. This happened under their watch. Not his. PIRRO: We've also killed hundreds of Russians in Syria. This president is doing exactly what he promised he would do and I talk about it in the book. All of the good things he's doing is being ignored by the media. HANNITY: They don't care, they don't care, they're liars. They are all agenda-driven. PIRRO: They are liars, they are leakers, and they're liberals, Sean. And that's why people have to focus on 2018. They have to make sure that we will in 2018 prove to the American people that they believe in justice, they believe in this man who takes income every day, the president of the United States, still gets up and fights for us every day. You know what? Let them have their dance, their crazy dance -- dance and get dressed up in their Antifa getups. They can do whatever they want, America gets it. They are talking to each other. HANNITY: All right. Congrats on the book, Judge Jeanine. PIRRO: Thank you, Sean. HANNITY: As you know, you can watch her Saturday night, right here on the FOX News Channel. When we come back, we have more breaking news. Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter, wait until you hear what Lisa Page and how she is contradicting her former lover Peter Strzok. The great one Mark Levin makes a visit. And much more as we continue on this breaking news night. (COMMERCIOAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can we still call President Trump the leader of the free world? Can we still call him the leader of the United States? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All he had to do was not, you know, put on jammies and crawl under the covers with Vladimir Putin, and he couldn't do that. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have never seen an American president simply surrender to the leader of Russia, you should call this the surrender summit. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The definition is the first word is treason, bribery, and high crimes and misdemeanors. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We all know that Vladimir Putin is holding something over Donald Trump. We do not know what that is. But we know it must be something extraordinary. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Just more of the corrupt anti-Trump fairly predictable dishonest mainstream media spreading their liberal narratives about the Helsinki summit. Joining us now with reaction, author of the book out next week, finally it's here, "The Russia Hoax" , which, by the way, explains lot of this, if not all of it. "The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump", one week from today, Amazon.com and Hannity.com, FOX News legal Gregg Jarrett. Also with us, FOX News investigative reporter and contributor Sara Carter. Gregg, let's start with you and let's start with the media reaction to all of this. I just laid out all of the times that Donald Trump had said Russia was involved in meddling. So, the media -- you know, the premise of their argument is provably wrong but that didn't stop the hysteria. Nor did they explain to the American people that deserve the truth that this all happened on their watch, on Obama's watch, Clinton's watch, Comey's watch, Brennan's watch, Clapper's watch, and the rest of them. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Three months ago, on April 6th, the president signed an order imposing new sanctions on Putin and Russia, and he issued a statement at the time saying he's doing this because Russia interfered in our 2016 election, trying to sow discord. So, he has said this repeatedly but the media has amnesia. This president has been tougher on Putin and Russia in 18 months in office than Barack Obama in eight years. Last summer, he issued new tough sanctions on Russia and their energy industry and their defense industry, he has expelled dozens of Russians from this country, he has shut down diplomatic properties in Washington, New York, and San Francisco. So, for the media to suggest that this president is siding with Putin, he's in his pocket, he doesn't believe that the Russians meddled, is ludicrous. HANNITY: Let's get your take, Sara Carter, especially from your perspective knowing Brennan and Clapper, there's information on Brennan that will be coming out that I think is fairly devastating to him. SARA CARTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, when you have members of the intelligence community, Sean, particularly the former director of the CIA, John Brennan literally going out against the president of the United States, going out against his own nation, you have a very serious problem. And the information that's going to be coming out on Brennan I believe is damaging. You know, one of the biggest questions that we have is what was the role of the CIA in this Russia investigation? What role did Brennan play? Was he coordinating with the FBI? Were other agencies involved? And I think when you have someone like John Brennan and you have an agency, a powerful agency like the CIA whose edict is to go after foreign threats, but instead looks into political discord and our political state here within the country and exists in that with the FBI, then we have something very frightening. This is something shouldn't be happening. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: You know, I raised all these questions. CARTER: You did. HANNITY: Everything that we've been discussing here, they rig an investigation, and they help a favorite candidate, then they set out to destroy a second candidate, then, you know, all of that information, then they literally it's a bought and paid for dossier to lie to the American people kind of like Pravda, kind of like propaganda. And it's Russian lies of all things, the media ignores all of that. It's even used as the bulk of information obtained the FISA warrant. All right. We have new information today, that apparently Lisa Page is now contradicting Peter Strzok. I will start with you, Sara. CARTER: Yes. That was the information that I received today as well, Sean. That her testimony appeared to be very credible, it appeared to contradict Peter Strzok's testimony, they will be reviewing that again. They are going to be taking a very close look at that. This is really interesting because remember, this is the -- this was the interview that Congress wanted all along. Now another very important point, I think this is something that investigators particularly on Capitol Hill are looking at. It's the onslaught of documentation that shows how far the FBI went, not only the FBI but other agencies within the U.S. government and coordinating either with the dossier as well as other information. Anti-Trump information and this is something they want to take a look at. They also have 19 pages of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants that was taken out on Carter Page. This was the very last one. They have the 19 pages they want to make it public, they want the rest of the country to know what they are looking at-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: And the president can ask, demand that this be released as we've all three of us now have said. CARTER: The president -- the president should demand the release of these documents. He should. And the American people have a right to see it. HANNITY: Yes. Let me get -- Gregg, we'll give you the last word tonight. GREGG JARRETT, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Lisa Page reportedly under oath, said that the text messages from Strzok meant what they said. He of course claimed they didn't mean that. HANNITY: By the way, wasn't he under oath? JARRETT: Yes, he was. And so, that would mean that if she's telling the truth and he is not, and they've perjured himself, plus, driven by animus and bias he may have used his office to clear Hillary Clinton for political reasons and launched the investigation to frame Donald Trump which would be obstruction of justice and abuse of power. HANNITY: By the way, that's the title of a new book that's coming out new week. JARRETT: It is. HANNITY: A week. Finally it's here and you can get your copy in bookstores everywhere starting Monday. All right. Thank you both. When we come back, you want to hear the great one Mark Levin, he's fired up about the media and the most insane 24 hours we've ever seen. Yes, the great one Mark Levin is straight ahead, don't go anywhere. HANNITY: All right. He is back with us. He is the host of CRTV's Levin TV, the host of Life, Liberty, and Levin, the number one show Sunday night at 10 Eastern right here on Fox. I call him the great one Mark Levin. So I said at the beginning of the show we have now witnessed the single worst 24 hours in the history of the mainstream media which is saying a lot because we know how corrupt they are. Reaction? MARK LEVIN, FOX NEWS HOST: Well, you know, Sean, what we've learned about the media several of the hosts and guests as we have a lot of psychopaths out there. That's for sure. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: OK. How do you really feel? LEVIN: Well, comparing the president's conference with Putin to Pearl Harbor an 9/11, Kristallnacht, the beginning in the Holocaust, calling him a traitor and treasonous. You know, two weeks ago they said he was running Japanese internment camps and Nazi concentration camps. This is the pseudo- media. And now comes to Russia. Now the liberals, the media, the Democrats, some Republicans very upset about Russia. You know, they've had more positions on Russia than Stormy Daniels as far as I'm concerned. And let me point out some history. This is very, very important. John McCain, God bless him and others have said that what Trump did at that press conference is the worst interaction we've ever had with Russia, the worst diplomatic disaster ever. I want the American people - forget about that, I want you to know something. In 1945 at the Yalta Conference, Franklin Roosevelt sold out half of Europe to Stalin. He repeatedly praised Stalin. Franklin Roosevelt is the hero of the Democratic Party, he of Japanese internment camps too. In Yalta he gave up half of Europe to the Soviet Union. In 1961, JFK met with Khrushchev. JFK told a friend of his that he was rolled over that he came across weak that it was pretty disastrous his meeting with Khrushchev. And a few weeks later, what did they do? The Soviets are shipping missiles to Cuba and they are building a wall in Berlin. In 1975, Gerald Ford in Helsinki with Breshnev with 35 other countries, recognized -- recognized the territorial sovereignty of the Soviet Union which included the captive nations of Eastern Europe. In 1979, Jimmy Carter placed a big wet kiss on Breshnev's cheek in Vienna. All of this hysteria about this press conference, the president said, look, I could have said it better, I should have said this and they act like it's the apocalypse. It's not. The left in this country has defended the Rosenberg's, they defended Alger Hiss, they defended Ted Kennedy in 1983 and '84 when he was colluding with the Kremlin to defeat Reagan. The left, the Democrats, the media in this country oppose the STI, the Strategic Defense Initiative which had as its purpose to defend us against Russian nuclear missiles, they called it "Star Wars" to this day, the left won't fund it. To this day, the Democrat Party opposes it. They opposed dispersing two missiles, the modernized medium-range nuclear missiles which you eventually put in York, again to defeat the Soviet Union. So the left goes back and forth, the Democrats -- if, in fact, Donald Trump had turned to Putin after a two-hour private meeting after setting up this summit and all of a sudden in public turns to Putin and says look, you little bastard, we know you interfered in our election. They would be attacking Trump today the way that Trump turned to the Germans and NATO and said, hey, you're buying 70 percent of your natural gas from the Roskis, you're funding their war machine and then you ask us to subsidize you? The media, the Democrats and the same people went nuts. But some more facts. Obama as president. Obama did nothing effective at all to stop the Russians interference in our election. He's the one who ought to be under investigation. No pushback for the invasion of Georgia. No pushback for the annexation of Crimea. No pushback for the invasion of Eastern Ukraine. No pushback from Russia's criminal shootdown of flight MH117. He capitulated to Russia in Syria, the unmet red lines, his betrayal of Poland and the Czech Republic by seeding to Russia's demand to remove U.S. missiles defense systems there. He betrayed the Ukraine by refusing to provide them with defensive weapons. Now, contrast that disaster that utter appeasement to what Trump has done in the 18 months. He's expanded sanctions on Russian companies in apparatchik. He's expanded and beefed up NATO. He's had a massive increase in U.S. defense spending no thanks to the liberals, restoring missile defenses to Poland and the Czech Republic. Returning heavy armored divisions to Germany. Repositioning armed brigade to the Baltics. Ending arms embargoes on the Ukraine and Georgia that Obama imposed on victims of Russian aggression. Ending the ban of oil exports to try and compete with the Russians when it comes to their oil. I could go on and on on this, these are notes I have typed out on this. So, all of this hysteria, the fact of the matter is Trump hasn't a thing to harm America with respect to Russia and Obama did nothing to protect America when it came to Russia. The same attitude Obama had when he came to the Chinese in the South China Sea building their phony islands. The North Koreans as they are building their nukes, the Iranians -- he gave them $150 billion and a wet kiss on the lips. So the attacks on Trump this overwrought hysterical, insane attack by the media, the Democrats some on the Republican Party and some phony conservatives-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: Let me ask you this. LEVIN: -- you're allowed to question the president, just don't go nuts. HANNITY: No, they can't help themselves. Because their narrative, you can't see this without seeing it through the prism of 2018. It's now because they can't run on the economy anymore, they're telling Maxine and others to be quiet about impeaching. They want open borders, they want Obamacare; they want their crumbs back. And now they're kind of desperate because the Mueller investigation hasn't brought them what they wanted in 18 months. But we have had Russia collusion in as much as Russian lies were paid for and disseminated to the American people about Donald Trump in a presidential election and they will use to get a warrant in a presidential election against the Trump campaign. That seems to me like a pretty important factor that they don't report on, Mark. LEVIN: Bottom line is two entities interfered in our election. The Russians and the Obama administration. The Democrats defend the Obama administration and all of a sudden they don't like the Russians so they've been kowtowing too since 1917. HANNITY: Bingo. Yes. You know what, that's why we call you the great one. Don't -- we will see Mark on Sunday night, Life, Liberty, and Levin, 10 p.m., the number one show on cable at 10 p.m. right here on the Fox News Channel. All right. When we come back, Dr. Sebastian Gorka, Dan Bongino, and the other news of the day. Don't touch that television dial, we need you. HANNITY: All right. Joining us now with much more on the left's freak out over the Trump=Putin summit is the author of the book "Why We Fight," Fox News national security strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka, and former Secret Service agent and NRA TV contributor, Dan Bongino is with us. You know, Dr. Gorka, I should tell everybody you just texted me and you just go, well, after you and Levin there is not much left to say on how insane these people are but there really is. Because you know, a friend of mine texted me, he said, you know, one of the observations he has is the left lives in this bubble. And they all regurgitate, they only talk to themselves. But they're one voice, they use the same phrases, the same sentences, the same arguments -- it's like they can't get out of their liberal bubble. They just lived there and talk to each other. But they are really hurting the American people and they claim they're journalists. SEBASTIAN GORKA, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGIST: Yes. Look, seriously there's a reason he's called the great one. That was a tour de force from FDR betraying Central Europe-- HANNITY: Right. GORKA: -- right up through Khrushchev and Kennedy. Let me share with you an anecdote from just a few hours ago. I was coming out of a hotel in Washington and somebody comes up to me and shouts you're a fascist. And I said come over here and let's talk. And I said so, why am I fascist? Because you work for Donald Trump. That's about as deep as the analysis gets. They are in an utter bubble. I want to make one comment on the Helsinki hysteria. For the last 70 years, 70 years, Moscow has been trying to undermine our democracy including our elections. But it only became an issue for the left and the media now, why, Sean? Because Donald Trump won the election. They didn't care for the last 70 years from what their ante right up until John Brennan who voted for the Communist Party before he joined the CIA. They didn't care. They only care now because they want to undermine the integrity of that election and because they wanted Hillary to win. It's the only reason. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But they wanted to do this from the beginning right after the president was inaugurated, Dan. Remember they had the women's march. Then it became all hopes went for Robert Mueller and his witch hunt, that has been debunked. But more importantly, the deep state has been exposed. Guys like Brennan and Clapper, they have a lot of explaining to do, surveillance unmasking that's coming up. Obvious lying to FISA court judges, rigging an investigation. All of things -- you know, all of this now we have been reporting on coming true. And this is like their last hope heading into 2018, because they don't particularly have an agenda that I know short of the five items I keep pointing out. DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR, NRATV: No. Sean, their agenda is outreach campaigns. Remember the outreach campaigns we swapped, right? Don't forget these folks. We have the travel ban, we swapped that outrage campaign for Russia gate, we swap that outrage campaign for the immigration crisis at the border. Then we swapped that outrage campaign for Kavanaugh, we stay swap breaking. There is a new outreach campaign, the new outreach campaign is Russia. Listen, folks, you can count me out of the outrage campaigns against Trump. For eight years -- and by the way, is this whataboutism? You're damn right, it's whataboutism. I had to deal with Barack Obama at critical levels of deception, on taxes, on Obamacare, on immigration, on sending pallets of cash to country that chants death to America. Media folks, count me out. I'm done with your outrage campaigns I'm not interested in joining at all. And, by the way, the spineless rhinos who love to pylon on every opportunity. The guy made a mistake, the president. He came out he acknowledge it, he corrected it today but the spineless rhino-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: But Dan, it's actually even -- it's more important than that. The president has said it over and over and over again. I played the tape. BONGINO: It doesn't matter, Sean. It doesn't matter. Why are we acting like it matters? Sean, we're not talking to reasonable people here. Why are we continuing to pretend these are reasonable people? These are Democratic Party propagandists, period. Full stop. End of story. HANNITY: Yes. Dr. Gorka. GORKA: I think Dan is right. We need to ignore them as much as possible because they're just making themselves irrelevant. When you are having companies repatriate hundred -- hundreds of billions of dollars because of the president's tax reform, when you got oil companies giving $25,000 signing bonuses because there's not enough people to work in the oil sector now, that's the reality. People will go to the ballot box knowing that Donald Trump loves this country and it's about America first. And everybody else you're just whining rhinos or crazy lefties. BONGINO: Yes. HANNITY: Yes. Go ahead, Dan Bongino. Dan, we'll give you the last word. BONGINO: Yes, you're darn right, Sebastian! And Sean, who's been harder on Russia? You know, they forget just a couple of months ago Trump ordered a strike on 200 Russian mercenaries and wipe them off the battlefield in Syria. Well what do you think they were doing playing bocce ball over there? I'm tired of this. Let's judge him by what he does not a few verbal gas in-- (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: They deserve the low rating they get. And they deserve the distrust level they have. They've earned it. All right. Thank you both. Great commentary. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh sounding off on all of these vicious attacks against the president. That is next. HANNITY: All right. So we have been talking all night about, well, the crazy media. One, President Trump made it clear that he is not going to allow Russian meddling narratives to cloud his election. And of course, it also caught the eye of our friend, Rush Limbaugh. Take a listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK SHOW HOST: James Comey, Andrew McCabe, John Brennan, James Clapper, all from the Obama administration have made it plain they believe it was true that Trump somehow had colluded with Russia or his friends with Putin. For two years, Trump has dealt with this. The point of it all has been to delegitimize President Trump's victory. The point of it all was to get rid of Trump inside the first six months. And Trump knows all of this. (END VIDEO CLIP) HANNITY: Checkmate, Rush. Right on the money. Strange times we're living in. Sadly, they are more corrupt than even I ever thought. And they're dead. All right. That's all the time we have left this evening. We'll always be fair and balance. We're not the destroy-Trump media. Let not your heart be troubled. Why didn't you come to Helsinki? Me and Tucker flew to Helsinki. You didn't go to Helsinki. LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: I could have been your interpreter. I'm not special, you boys are the special ones. HANNITY: Special ones? All you got to say is I want to go to Helsinki and we would have brought you. INGRAHAM: You're the special ones. Well I could have given the Russian translation for you, I could have gotten you better service to the Russian translation. But Hannity I got to say your show was great and the point that Trump made yesterday when he said, he was clearly annoyed that the Mueller investigation has hamstrung the relationship with Russia. It has. HANNITY: Bingo. INGRAHAM: It has and we've been saying that from the beginning. It's been killing our attempt to rebuild our relationship. HANNITY: You know Laura, there's one point in it. When the president said to me that up to five hours ago it was atrocious. The way he was explaining it was it sort of let the air out of the room because they're reading everything that's being said about them now. Do I think they're bad actors? Of course. Is he a bad actor? Yes, they're a hostile regime and they've done it before but it happened on Obama's watch. INGRAHAM: Yeah and President Xi has just our best interests at heart. We roll out the red carpet for at every administration so come on. Every time they say Russia, I say China. Hannity fantastic reporting from Helsinki, really enjoyed it and great show tonight. HANNITY: Right, yeah. Have a great show tonight. 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